<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_20_1352234</id>
	<title>Linus Torvalds For Nobel Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1258734960000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"I'm as much of a Linux fanboy as anyone else, but I've never thought of anything in computing as being worth a <a href="http://www.ridenbaugh.com/index.php/2009/11/18/a-northwest-nobel-option/">Nobel Peace Prize</a>. Apparently, there are those who take global collaboration seriously, though..."</i> The suggestion has been bouncing around the Portland Linux community, where Torvalds lives. Is it worthy of wider attention and discussion?</htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " I 'm as much of a Linux fanboy as anyone else , but I 've never thought of anything in computing as being worth a Nobel Peace Prize .
Apparently , there are those who take global collaboration seriously , though... " The suggestion has been bouncing around the Portland Linux community , where Torvalds lives .
Is it worthy of wider attention and discussion ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "I'm as much of a Linux fanboy as anyone else, but I've never thought of anything in computing as being worth a Nobel Peace Prize.
Apparently, there are those who take global collaboration seriously, though..." The suggestion has been bouncing around the Portland Linux community, where Torvalds lives.
Is it worthy of wider attention and discussion?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30177038</id>
	<title>What are you talking about?</title>
	<author>paxcoder</author>
	<datestamp>1258710840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First John Paul II is omitted, then Obama included, and now you want Torvalds?<br>A peace prize for global collaboration on a kernel? While impressive, the fact that Torvalds managed to harness the power of the free software community is far from deserving a peace prize. Not to mention it's not *he* who authored "Free software, free society". GPL and software freedom is means to improving "his kernel" for Torvalds, not necessarily a goal itself. That's what I gathered on the interwebs anyway.<br>In any case: be serious.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First John Paul II is omitted , then Obama included , and now you want Torvalds ? A peace prize for global collaboration on a kernel ?
While impressive , the fact that Torvalds managed to harness the power of the free software community is far from deserving a peace prize .
Not to mention it 's not * he * who authored " Free software , free society " .
GPL and software freedom is means to improving " his kernel " for Torvalds , not necessarily a goal itself .
That 's what I gathered on the interwebs anyway.In any case : be serious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First John Paul II is omitted, then Obama included, and now you want Torvalds?A peace prize for global collaboration on a kernel?
While impressive, the fact that Torvalds managed to harness the power of the free software community is far from deserving a peace prize.
Not to mention it's not *he* who authored "Free software, free society".
GPL and software freedom is means to improving "his kernel" for Torvalds, not necessarily a goal itself.
That's what I gathered on the interwebs anyway.In any case: be serious.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30177116</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>MadUndergrad</author>
	<datestamp>1258711140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people"</p><p>Programmers may not be the most attractive or slim people ever, but I think it's a little unnecessarily offensive to measure them in *tons*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people " Programmers may not be the most attractive or slim people ever , but I think it 's a little unnecessarily offensive to measure them in * tons *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people"Programmers may not be the most attractive or slim people ever, but I think it's a little unnecessarily offensive to measure them in *tons*</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173462</id>
	<title>Re:Linux Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>Maximum Prophet</author>
	<datestamp>1258741860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Ghandi (who ironically never got one, IIRC)</p></div><p>Supposedly, Ghandi was going to get one, but died too soon.  Nobel prizes aren't given posthumously.  This is a problem with the Peace Prize, because if your political enemies get word you are being considered, they might arrange to off you, calculating that the negative publicity of your murder would be less than that of your winning the prize.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ghandi ( who ironically never got one , IIRC ) Supposedly , Ghandi was going to get one , but died too soon .
Nobel prizes are n't given posthumously .
This is a problem with the Peace Prize , because if your political enemies get word you are being considered , they might arrange to off you , calculating that the negative publicity of your murder would be less than that of your winning the prize .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ghandi (who ironically never got one, IIRC)Supposedly, Ghandi was going to get one, but died too soon.
Nobel prizes aren't given posthumously.
This is a problem with the Peace Prize, because if your political enemies get word you are being considered, they might arrange to off you, calculating that the negative publicity of your murder would be less than that of your winning the prize.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173624</id>
	<title>Torvalds isn't a bad nomination</title>
	<author>dh003i</author>
	<datestamp>1258742580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Torvalds has done more for peace than President Obama, who was nominated for the prize just a few weeks after taking office (he couldn't have done anything, still hasn't, and won't). In fact, Obama had a chance to do something for world peace -- get US troops out of the 150 different countries they're in. He didn't. He's actually expanding US-imperialism. Thus, he's done plenty for world discord, not peace.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Torvalds has done more for peace than President Obama , who was nominated for the prize just a few weeks after taking office ( he could n't have done anything , still has n't , and wo n't ) .
In fact , Obama had a chance to do something for world peace -- get US troops out of the 150 different countries they 're in .
He did n't .
He 's actually expanding US-imperialism .
Thus , he 's done plenty for world discord , not peace .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Torvalds has done more for peace than President Obama, who was nominated for the prize just a few weeks after taking office (he couldn't have done anything, still hasn't, and won't).
In fact, Obama had a chance to do something for world peace -- get US troops out of the 150 different countries they're in.
He didn't.
He's actually expanding US-imperialism.
Thus, he's done plenty for world discord, not peace.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30180290</id>
	<title>Re:I'd say he's done at least as much for world pe</title>
	<author>Pseudonym</author>
	<datestamp>1258724220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As premature as that particular prize was, at least President Obama has "promoted peace conferences", which is in literal accordance with Alfred Nobel's will.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As premature as that particular prize was , at least President Obama has " promoted peace conferences " , which is in literal accordance with Alfred Nobel 's will .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As premature as that particular prize was, at least President Obama has "promoted peace conferences", which is in literal accordance with Alfred Nobel's will.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30220752</id>
	<title>Re:Not a Campaigned Award</title>
	<author>Tweenk</author>
	<datestamp>1259066880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is not an elected award so I wouldn't waste my time trying to impose outside influence on a committee for a Nobel prize.</p></div><p>There's more to it. If you try to influence the Nobel committee they will with absolute certainty not give the prize to that person. For example, there was a nomination for Irena Sendlerowa who rescued 2500 Jewish children during WWII, but the Polish president who is a mindblowing idiot tried to influence the committee through stupid public statements and she was not given the prize. Instead some unknown guy who made microloans to Bangladeshis got it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is not an elected award so I would n't waste my time trying to impose outside influence on a committee for a Nobel prize.There 's more to it .
If you try to influence the Nobel committee they will with absolute certainty not give the prize to that person .
For example , there was a nomination for Irena Sendlerowa who rescued 2500 Jewish children during WWII , but the Polish president who is a mindblowing idiot tried to influence the committee through stupid public statements and she was not given the prize .
Instead some unknown guy who made microloans to Bangladeshis got it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is not an elected award so I wouldn't waste my time trying to impose outside influence on a committee for a Nobel prize.There's more to it.
If you try to influence the Nobel committee they will with absolute certainty not give the prize to that person.
For example, there was a nomination for Irena Sendlerowa who rescued 2500 Jewish children during WWII, but the Polish president who is a mindblowing idiot tried to influence the committee through stupid public statements and she was not given the prize.
Instead some unknown guy who made microloans to Bangladeshis got it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172600</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174680</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>Interoperable</author>
	<datestamp>1258746060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Linux deserves a Nobel Peace Prize but I don't think that Linus does. If he were to receive one, it would as a figure to represent the Linux community on the whole. While I think that GPL and Linux have done a great deal that is in line with the goals of equality and global freedoms, I think that it has been an effort by a huge number of people. Linus started that and represents that, but at the end of the day, what he <i>did</i> was write and maintain a UNIX-like kernel. I don't think that the act of releasing that kernel under a free license constitutes an act worthy of a Nobel Prize.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux deserves a Nobel Peace Prize but I do n't think that Linus does .
If he were to receive one , it would as a figure to represent the Linux community on the whole .
While I think that GPL and Linux have done a great deal that is in line with the goals of equality and global freedoms , I think that it has been an effort by a huge number of people .
Linus started that and represents that , but at the end of the day , what he did was write and maintain a UNIX-like kernel .
I do n't think that the act of releasing that kernel under a free license constitutes an act worthy of a Nobel Prize .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux deserves a Nobel Peace Prize but I don't think that Linus does.
If he were to receive one, it would as a figure to represent the Linux community on the whole.
While I think that GPL and Linux have done a great deal that is in line with the goals of equality and global freedoms, I think that it has been an effort by a huge number of people.
Linus started that and represents that, but at the end of the day, what he did was write and maintain a UNIX-like kernel.
I don't think that the act of releasing that kernel under a free license constitutes an act worthy of a Nobel Prize.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172504</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173486</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258741980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linus didn't do any of this stuff with the intention of spreading peace, safety and harmony or to decrease poverty. He holds no great ideology and tends to be a pragmatist and pretty typical albeit very talented computer geek. The benefits of Linux just happen to be a side effect of some choices he made to use the FSF's software licensing model, which allows for and encourages collaboration. The FSF and Richard Stallman's ideology have a lot more to do with any positive benefits that arise because of Linux and other Free Software. Linus is just one of the top contributors to one specific influential effort. Linus' contribution to the "goodness" of the cause is accidental; Stallman's contribution is intentional. I'd nominate the latter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus did n't do any of this stuff with the intention of spreading peace , safety and harmony or to decrease poverty .
He holds no great ideology and tends to be a pragmatist and pretty typical albeit very talented computer geek .
The benefits of Linux just happen to be a side effect of some choices he made to use the FSF 's software licensing model , which allows for and encourages collaboration .
The FSF and Richard Stallman 's ideology have a lot more to do with any positive benefits that arise because of Linux and other Free Software .
Linus is just one of the top contributors to one specific influential effort .
Linus ' contribution to the " goodness " of the cause is accidental ; Stallman 's contribution is intentional .
I 'd nominate the latter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus didn't do any of this stuff with the intention of spreading peace, safety and harmony or to decrease poverty.
He holds no great ideology and tends to be a pragmatist and pretty typical albeit very talented computer geek.
The benefits of Linux just happen to be a side effect of some choices he made to use the FSF's software licensing model, which allows for and encourages collaboration.
The FSF and Richard Stallman's ideology have a lot more to do with any positive benefits that arise because of Linux and other Free Software.
Linus is just one of the top contributors to one specific influential effort.
Linus' contribution to the "goodness" of the cause is accidental; Stallman's contribution is intentional.
I'd nominate the latter.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173094</id>
	<title>Forget the open source bigshots</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258740540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When it comes to computer science, I think men like Edsger Dijkstra, Alan Turing or Donald Knuth deserve this title more. Even for those men, Nobel price for PEACE is the wrong category.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When it comes to computer science , I think men like Edsger Dijkstra , Alan Turing or Donald Knuth deserve this title more .
Even for those men , Nobel price for PEACE is the wrong category .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When it comes to computer science, I think men like Edsger Dijkstra, Alan Turing or Donald Knuth deserve this title more.
Even for those men, Nobel price for PEACE is the wrong category.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30179056</id>
	<title>Re:Bill Gates</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258718100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Computers would have become popular without Windows. All we have Gates to thank for is how well he can market a buggy, incompatible, rarely-updated OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Computers would have become popular without Windows .
All we have Gates to thank for is how well he can market a buggy , incompatible , rarely-updated OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Computers would have become popular without Windows.
All we have Gates to thank for is how well he can market a buggy, incompatible, rarely-updated OS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174026</id>
	<title>Re:Can we stop with the Obama comparisons?</title>
	<author>Bigby</author>
	<datestamp>1258743960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about giving the prize to someone who has the power to withdrawal troops, but continues the wars?  Get this: someone who is actively perpetuating a war gets a peace prize...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about giving the prize to someone who has the power to withdrawal troops , but continues the wars ?
Get this : someone who is actively perpetuating a war gets a peace prize.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about giving the prize to someone who has the power to withdrawal troops, but continues the wars?
Get this: someone who is actively perpetuating a war gets a peace prize...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174012</id>
	<title>Fucking retards</title>
	<author>wampus</author>
	<datestamp>1258743960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the singularly most stupid thing I've ever seen on this site, and that is really saying something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the singularly most stupid thing I 've ever seen on this site , and that is really saying something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the singularly most stupid thing I've ever seen on this site, and that is really saying something.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173712</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>robmv</author>
	<datestamp>1258742940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>he can have good intentions, and the prize could be given to him for what he could do in the future</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>he can have good intentions , and the prize could be given to him for what he could do in the future</tokentext>
<sentencetext>he can have good intentions, and the prize could be given to him for what he could do in the future</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30182004</id>
	<title>Nobel Peace Prize? ROFLMAO</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258739280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I saw "Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize" and immediately thought, "What the...?! Er, what about Stallman?". Thank God others had similar reactions: the idea of a Peace Prize for Linus, given his ambivalence towards free software ideals, is absurd. It's like offering some kind of peace prize to Gandhi's optician for making his spectacles so he can do his stuff more easily. The stuff being done here is Stallman's vision (not only his, but he's the obvious representative of the free software movement). The fact that Torvalds produced one of the most significant technical milestones along the road to realising Stallman's vision does not make Torvalds a hero, any more than Gandhi's optician would be a hero just for making his glasses while saying he didn't really agree with his values. Stallman deserves recognition for identifying a really important threat to our political freedom in an information age, and fighting long and hard to safeguard our freedom. Torvalds is just a very competent geek. Give him a geek award for technical accomplishments, sure. But a Nobel Peace Prize? Please.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I saw " Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize " and immediately thought , " What the... ? !
Er , what about Stallman ? " .
Thank God others had similar reactions : the idea of a Peace Prize for Linus , given his ambivalence towards free software ideals , is absurd .
It 's like offering some kind of peace prize to Gandhi 's optician for making his spectacles so he can do his stuff more easily .
The stuff being done here is Stallman 's vision ( not only his , but he 's the obvious representative of the free software movement ) .
The fact that Torvalds produced one of the most significant technical milestones along the road to realising Stallman 's vision does not make Torvalds a hero , any more than Gandhi 's optician would be a hero just for making his glasses while saying he did n't really agree with his values .
Stallman deserves recognition for identifying a really important threat to our political freedom in an information age , and fighting long and hard to safeguard our freedom .
Torvalds is just a very competent geek .
Give him a geek award for technical accomplishments , sure .
But a Nobel Peace Prize ?
Please .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I saw "Linus Torvalds for Nobel Peace Prize" and immediately thought, "What the...?!
Er, what about Stallman?".
Thank God others had similar reactions: the idea of a Peace Prize for Linus, given his ambivalence towards free software ideals, is absurd.
It's like offering some kind of peace prize to Gandhi's optician for making his spectacles so he can do his stuff more easily.
The stuff being done here is Stallman's vision (not only his, but he's the obvious representative of the free software movement).
The fact that Torvalds produced one of the most significant technical milestones along the road to realising Stallman's vision does not make Torvalds a hero, any more than Gandhi's optician would be a hero just for making his glasses while saying he didn't really agree with his values.
Stallman deserves recognition for identifying a really important threat to our political freedom in an information age, and fighting long and hard to safeguard our freedom.
Torvalds is just a very competent geek.
Give him a geek award for technical accomplishments, sure.
But a Nobel Peace Prize?
Please.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30182456</id>
	<title>Theo de Raadt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258746060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's nominate Theo de Raadt!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's nominate Theo de Raadt !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's nominate Theo de Raadt!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172688</id>
	<title>RMS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258739220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Honestly, RMS probably deserves the Nobel Peace Prize more than Linus.  He gets wide credit for starting the entire GNU/ free software initiative.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Honestly , RMS probably deserves the Nobel Peace Prize more than Linus .
He gets wide credit for starting the entire GNU/ free software initiative .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Honestly, RMS probably deserves the Nobel Peace Prize more than Linus.
He gets wide credit for starting the entire GNU/ free software initiative.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174036</id>
	<title>Linus for a nobel peace prize?</title>
	<author>pele</author>
	<datestamp>1258744020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought Nobel laureates aren't arrogant bastards that get a hard on from dismissing people with good intentions?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought Nobel laureates are n't arrogant bastards that get a hard on from dismissing people with good intentions ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought Nobel laureates aren't arrogant bastards that get a hard on from dismissing people with good intentions?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172604</id>
	<title>NO</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258738920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh god, please no.<br>I'd prefer my Linus not being in the same company with all the crooks who received it for bullshit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh god , please no.I 'd prefer my Linus not being in the same company with all the crooks who received it for bullshit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh god, please no.I'd prefer my Linus not being in the same company with all the crooks who received it for bullshit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173564</id>
	<title>I would proudly vote for RMS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258742340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd hate to see the guy who calls his co-opetition "masturbating monkeys" get a peace prize.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>That aside, I firmly believe that the GPL is the reason for the success of the Linux kernel and of GNU/Linux.  Compare the success of Linux and GNU/Linux to other systems which are more stable and have better documentation (like OpenBSD).  There are many reasons why this might be, but I think that there would have been far fewer contributions to the Linux kernel if its license did not provide equal access for all contributors.  A substantial part of Linux was written by commercial entities who would undoubtedly not be willing to invest in a product which their competition could build upon without contributing likewise in return.</p><p>We all owe a tremendous debt to RMS that I doubt will ever be repaid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd hate to see the guy who calls his co-opetition " masturbating monkeys " get a peace prize .
: ) That aside , I firmly believe that the GPL is the reason for the success of the Linux kernel and of GNU/Linux .
Compare the success of Linux and GNU/Linux to other systems which are more stable and have better documentation ( like OpenBSD ) .
There are many reasons why this might be , but I think that there would have been far fewer contributions to the Linux kernel if its license did not provide equal access for all contributors .
A substantial part of Linux was written by commercial entities who would undoubtedly not be willing to invest in a product which their competition could build upon without contributing likewise in return.We all owe a tremendous debt to RMS that I doubt will ever be repaid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd hate to see the guy who calls his co-opetition "masturbating monkeys" get a peace prize.
:)That aside, I firmly believe that the GPL is the reason for the success of the Linux kernel and of GNU/Linux.
Compare the success of Linux and GNU/Linux to other systems which are more stable and have better documentation (like OpenBSD).
There are many reasons why this might be, but I think that there would have been far fewer contributions to the Linux kernel if its license did not provide equal access for all contributors.
A substantial part of Linux was written by commercial entities who would undoubtedly not be willing to invest in a product which their competition could build upon without contributing likewise in return.We all owe a tremendous debt to RMS that I doubt will ever be repaid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174882</id>
	<title>It is actually a decent idea, because...</title>
	<author>jarrowwx</author>
	<datestamp>1258746780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If anything is going to help bring real peace to the world, it's changing people's selfish mindsets.  Open Source is doing that.  Slowly, people are coming to realize that doing good for everybody really is good for everybody, including yourself.  This mindset shift will slowly extend outward beyond software, and may one day usher in a new age of cooperation and collaboration.

Linus, as an early adopter of the mindset, and a vocal and active one, at that, HAS been instrumental.  He's not the ONLY one, of course.  Stallman, for example.  But this is or should be based on actual results, actual impact, that the person has (or clearly will have), on the world.  Linux is a household name.  Yes, technically it is GNU/Linux, but the fact that none of the uneducated masses knows that says something about who has made the bigger impact.

So, yes, I could back such an effort.

Of course, honors are nice, and all, but the best way to say thank-you for all the hard work is to enable him to be even more influential in the future.  Now, how could we do that?</htmltext>
<tokenext>If anything is going to help bring real peace to the world , it 's changing people 's selfish mindsets .
Open Source is doing that .
Slowly , people are coming to realize that doing good for everybody really is good for everybody , including yourself .
This mindset shift will slowly extend outward beyond software , and may one day usher in a new age of cooperation and collaboration .
Linus , as an early adopter of the mindset , and a vocal and active one , at that , HAS been instrumental .
He 's not the ONLY one , of course .
Stallman , for example .
But this is or should be based on actual results , actual impact , that the person has ( or clearly will have ) , on the world .
Linux is a household name .
Yes , technically it is GNU/Linux , but the fact that none of the uneducated masses knows that says something about who has made the bigger impact .
So , yes , I could back such an effort .
Of course , honors are nice , and all , but the best way to say thank-you for all the hard work is to enable him to be even more influential in the future .
Now , how could we do that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If anything is going to help bring real peace to the world, it's changing people's selfish mindsets.
Open Source is doing that.
Slowly, people are coming to realize that doing good for everybody really is good for everybody, including yourself.
This mindset shift will slowly extend outward beyond software, and may one day usher in a new age of cooperation and collaboration.
Linus, as an early adopter of the mindset, and a vocal and active one, at that, HAS been instrumental.
He's not the ONLY one, of course.
Stallman, for example.
But this is or should be based on actual results, actual impact, that the person has (or clearly will have), on the world.
Linux is a household name.
Yes, technically it is GNU/Linux, but the fact that none of the uneducated masses knows that says something about who has made the bigger impact.
So, yes, I could back such an effort.
Of course, honors are nice, and all, but the best way to say thank-you for all the hard work is to enable him to be even more influential in the future.
Now, how could we do that?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173334</id>
	<title>Great Idea</title>
	<author>ewe2</author>
	<datestamp>1258741440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Man I'd do it just to watch Ballmer's face change colours. In widescreen HD.</p><p>But seriously, why not? He's enabled the less fortunate to participate in a world-wide community. It doesn't have obvious effects, but it is no less important a contribution</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Man I 'd do it just to watch Ballmer 's face change colours .
In widescreen HD.But seriously , why not ?
He 's enabled the less fortunate to participate in a world-wide community .
It does n't have obvious effects , but it is no less important a contribution</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Man I'd do it just to watch Ballmer's face change colours.
In widescreen HD.But seriously, why not?
He's enabled the less fortunate to participate in a world-wide community.
It doesn't have obvious effects, but it is no less important a contribution</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30175348</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>zig007</author>
	<datestamp>1258748280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know what to say, really.<br>Well. I suppose I could get away with almost anything, this being friday and me having some red wine to blame and all.<br>OK then.</p><p>You're right.</p><p>There. I said it.</p><p>My god.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know what to say , really.Well .
I suppose I could get away with almost anything , this being friday and me having some red wine to blame and all.OK then.You 're right.There .
I said it.My god .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know what to say, really.Well.
I suppose I could get away with almost anything, this being friday and me having some red wine to blame and all.OK then.You're right.There.
I said it.My god.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174976</id>
	<title>You are leaving out the army....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258747020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...of extremely obnoxious fanboys that he has imposed on the internet.</p><p>After selective praise like that even the president of the biggest agressor of the last decade would look like he deserved a Nobel prize. ERRRR....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...of extremely obnoxious fanboys that he has imposed on the internet.After selective praise like that even the president of the biggest agressor of the last decade would look like he deserved a Nobel prize .
ERRRR... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...of extremely obnoxious fanboys that he has imposed on the internet.After selective praise like that even the president of the biggest agressor of the last decade would look like he deserved a Nobel prize.
ERRRR....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173504</id>
	<title>Scentific community uses of Linux</title>
	<author>LightningJim2</author>
	<datestamp>1258742100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It might be considering how widely used Linux in the sciences. As a meteorology student I have seen how the software that both the government and academia uses are Linux-based. A prime example is the NAWIPS software package. Who knows how many other scientific advances are being done on Linux.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It might be considering how widely used Linux in the sciences .
As a meteorology student I have seen how the software that both the government and academia uses are Linux-based .
A prime example is the NAWIPS software package .
Who knows how many other scientific advances are being done on Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It might be considering how widely used Linux in the sciences.
As a meteorology student I have seen how the software that both the government and academia uses are Linux-based.
A prime example is the NAWIPS software package.
Who knows how many other scientific advances are being done on Linux.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173150</id>
	<title>Re:"Stuff that Matters"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258740780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One thing I've noticed that Gates and Torvalds have in common (besides the obvious association with developing an OS) is that they are known for critiquing ideas as "stupid", as in "the stupidest thing I've ever heard", even if it's their third time using that expression in one day.</p><p>I don't know if that's a militaristic or peace-loving trait.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One thing I 've noticed that Gates and Torvalds have in common ( besides the obvious association with developing an OS ) is that they are known for critiquing ideas as " stupid " , as in " the stupidest thing I 've ever heard " , even if it 's their third time using that expression in one day.I do n't know if that 's a militaristic or peace-loving trait .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One thing I've noticed that Gates and Torvalds have in common (besides the obvious association with developing an OS) is that they are known for critiquing ideas as "stupid", as in "the stupidest thing I've ever heard", even if it's their third time using that expression in one day.I don't know if that's a militaristic or peace-loving trait.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173994</id>
	<title>Share the GNU/Nobel with RMS</title>
	<author>Rene S. Hollan</author>
	<datestamp>1258743840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... just saying.</p><p>Seriously, though, the Peace Prize is very political, and it would take a HUGE outcry of global public support for Linus or Richard to get any lip service.</p><p>The Peace Prize is often awarded to those who end disputes, perhaps the very same people who started them in the first place</p><p>If anything, ubiquitous computing is not a <i>stabilizing</i> force but a <i>disruptive</i> one, empowering people against governments by way of improving the exchange of information, and encouraging association. Think "flash mob". This may be a force toward renewed justice, but the process can be anything but peaceful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... just saying.Seriously , though , the Peace Prize is very political , and it would take a HUGE outcry of global public support for Linus or Richard to get any lip service.The Peace Prize is often awarded to those who end disputes , perhaps the very same people who started them in the first placeIf anything , ubiquitous computing is not a stabilizing force but a disruptive one , empowering people against governments by way of improving the exchange of information , and encouraging association .
Think " flash mob " .
This may be a force toward renewed justice , but the process can be anything but peaceful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... just saying.Seriously, though, the Peace Prize is very political, and it would take a HUGE outcry of global public support for Linus or Richard to get any lip service.The Peace Prize is often awarded to those who end disputes, perhaps the very same people who started them in the first placeIf anything, ubiquitous computing is not a stabilizing force but a disruptive one, empowering people against governments by way of improving the exchange of information, and encouraging association.
Think "flash mob".
This may be a force toward renewed justice, but the process can be anything but peaceful.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173434</id>
	<title>Gnubell Prize</title>
	<author>vorlich</author>
	<datestamp>1258741740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What we need here is our very own prize awarding institution. <br>Then instead of sneering at the dumb choices of a bunch of dozy scandinavian academics we can employ the wisdom of the slashdotcrowd, which as we all know, is way smarter than the average crowd. <br> The existing categories of the Nobel Prize are a tad limiting <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel\_prize" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel\_prize</a> [wikipedia.org] so I suggest we will need a call for categories to begin with. <br>It goes without saying that the prize is just kudos - no cash - and that nominations are of course free as in beer. <br> Well I suppose  for the publicity photos there may be a small Gnubell made out of something standard - titanium alloy springs to mind...or of course transparent aluminium but that will be free too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What we need here is our very own prize awarding institution .
Then instead of sneering at the dumb choices of a bunch of dozy scandinavian academics we can employ the wisdom of the slashdotcrowd , which as we all know , is way smarter than the average crowd .
The existing categories of the Nobel Prize are a tad limiting http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel \ _prize [ wikipedia.org ] so I suggest we will need a call for categories to begin with .
It goes without saying that the prize is just kudos - no cash - and that nominations are of course free as in beer .
Well I suppose for the publicity photos there may be a small Gnubell made out of something standard - titanium alloy springs to mind...or of course transparent aluminium but that will be free too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What we need here is our very own prize awarding institution.
Then instead of sneering at the dumb choices of a bunch of dozy scandinavian academics we can employ the wisdom of the slashdotcrowd, which as we all know, is way smarter than the average crowd.
The existing categories of the Nobel Prize are a tad limiting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel\_prize [wikipedia.org] so I suggest we will need a call for categories to begin with.
It goes without saying that the prize is just kudos - no cash - and that nominations are of course free as in beer.
Well I suppose  for the publicity photos there may be a small Gnubell made out of something standard - titanium alloy springs to mind...or of course transparent aluminium but that will be free too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172762</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258739400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people all over the globe and made a project that has helped change the computer industry and lower costs, making computing more affordable for everyone. Sounds good to me.
</p><p>That's a lot better than <i>saying</i> you'll do things but not having done them yet.
</p><p>He'll never win. The prize is very political, and I doubt they would give it to someone who isn't in their group of admired people. As a PR tool, it could be much more valuable to give it to someone else.
</p><p>Are there better candidates? I'd certainly expect so. But look at the <a href="http://nobelprizes.com/nobel/peace/peace.html" title="nobelprizes.com">list of winners</a> [nobelprizes.com]. While some are obviously good (Doctors Without Borders, The Dalai Llama) others are much more questionable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people all over the globe and made a project that has helped change the computer industry and lower costs , making computing more affordable for everyone .
Sounds good to me .
That 's a lot better than saying you 'll do things but not having done them yet .
He 'll never win .
The prize is very political , and I doubt they would give it to someone who is n't in their group of admired people .
As a PR tool , it could be much more valuable to give it to someone else .
Are there better candidates ?
I 'd certainly expect so .
But look at the list of winners [ nobelprizes.com ] .
While some are obviously good ( Doctors Without Borders , The Dalai Llama ) others are much more questionable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people all over the globe and made a project that has helped change the computer industry and lower costs, making computing more affordable for everyone.
Sounds good to me.
That's a lot better than saying you'll do things but not having done them yet.
He'll never win.
The prize is very political, and I doubt they would give it to someone who isn't in their group of admired people.
As a PR tool, it could be much more valuable to give it to someone else.
Are there better candidates?
I'd certainly expect so.
But look at the list of winners [nobelprizes.com].
While some are obviously good (Doctors Without Borders, The Dalai Llama) others are much more questionable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173420</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>msimm</author>
	<datestamp>1258741740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Never say never. As computers become increasingly important in both emerging economies and first world economies his initial release of (and ongoing work on) the kernel under not just a free license, but an enforceably/perpetually free license has become a gift that in one way or another effects just about every computer user on the planet. Think about that for a second. It's become possibly one of the widest impacting acts of philanthropy in our history (with an amazing amount of people and companies now involved). This might not be the year of Linux on the Desktop (tm) but none-the-less, it's been a game changing event that has provided the tools necessary to create real technology to...well, everybody.<br> <br>
Of course a lot of people other then Linus deserve credit but as a figure head and a direct contributor of necessary technology his work seems perfectly appropriate to recognize. I'd say it's less a matter of if and more a matter of when (but it would be nice to see it happen in his lifetime).<br> <br>
And I'm sure I sound like a raving software hippie but I work in the IT industry and develop software as a hobby on my own. The ability to have access to the level of quality software we have today, at potentially ZERO cost (I don't need support licenses for my personal projects) allows me to experiment and develop technology that would have been cost prohibitive just a few years ago. Because of the open source movement software licensing doesn't limit technology and I don't think you have to be starry eyed to see how that might benefit...da da da-da...humanity.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Never say never .
As computers become increasingly important in both emerging economies and first world economies his initial release of ( and ongoing work on ) the kernel under not just a free license , but an enforceably/perpetually free license has become a gift that in one way or another effects just about every computer user on the planet .
Think about that for a second .
It 's become possibly one of the widest impacting acts of philanthropy in our history ( with an amazing amount of people and companies now involved ) .
This might not be the year of Linux on the Desktop ( tm ) but none-the-less , it 's been a game changing event that has provided the tools necessary to create real technology to...well , everybody .
Of course a lot of people other then Linus deserve credit but as a figure head and a direct contributor of necessary technology his work seems perfectly appropriate to recognize .
I 'd say it 's less a matter of if and more a matter of when ( but it would be nice to see it happen in his lifetime ) .
And I 'm sure I sound like a raving software hippie but I work in the IT industry and develop software as a hobby on my own .
The ability to have access to the level of quality software we have today , at potentially ZERO cost ( I do n't need support licenses for my personal projects ) allows me to experiment and develop technology that would have been cost prohibitive just a few years ago .
Because of the open source movement software licensing does n't limit technology and I do n't think you have to be starry eyed to see how that might benefit...da da da-da...humanity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Never say never.
As computers become increasingly important in both emerging economies and first world economies his initial release of (and ongoing work on) the kernel under not just a free license, but an enforceably/perpetually free license has become a gift that in one way or another effects just about every computer user on the planet.
Think about that for a second.
It's become possibly one of the widest impacting acts of philanthropy in our history (with an amazing amount of people and companies now involved).
This might not be the year of Linux on the Desktop (tm) but none-the-less, it's been a game changing event that has provided the tools necessary to create real technology to...well, everybody.
Of course a lot of people other then Linus deserve credit but as a figure head and a direct contributor of necessary technology his work seems perfectly appropriate to recognize.
I'd say it's less a matter of if and more a matter of when (but it would be nice to see it happen in his lifetime).
And I'm sure I sound like a raving software hippie but I work in the IT industry and develop software as a hobby on my own.
The ability to have access to the level of quality software we have today, at potentially ZERO cost (I don't need support licenses for my personal projects) allows me to experiment and develop technology that would have been cost prohibitive just a few years ago.
Because of the open source movement software licensing doesn't limit technology and I don't think you have to be starry eyed to see how that might benefit...da da da-da...humanity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172808</id>
	<title>Re:Linux Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>0racle</author>
	<datestamp>1258739520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>There are real people making real change on this planet.</p></div></blockquote><p>And the Peace Prize goes to none of them. Linus is just as deserving as any other winner (read: none of them were)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are real people making real change on this planet.And the Peace Prize goes to none of them .
Linus is just as deserving as any other winner ( read : none of them were )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are real people making real change on this planet.And the Peace Prize goes to none of them.
Linus is just as deserving as any other winner (read: none of them were)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172594</id>
	<title>Farcical</title>
	<author>UbuntuniX</author>
	<datestamp>1258738920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Linus has certainly done more to deserve it than Obama.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus has certainly done more to deserve it than Obama .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus has certainly done more to deserve it than Obama.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176974</id>
	<title>Lead-Pipe Cinch!</title>
	<author>WheelDweller</author>
	<datestamp>1258710660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not only has he started-n-maintained something with a positive, useful effect on the global society, all he'd have to do is hate George Bush and he's IN.</p><p>Go ahead! Second his nomination!  Lesser people have been given more!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only has he started-n-maintained something with a positive , useful effect on the global society , all he 'd have to do is hate George Bush and he 's IN.Go ahead !
Second his nomination !
Lesser people have been given more !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only has he started-n-maintained something with a positive, useful effect on the global society, all he'd have to do is hate George Bush and he's IN.Go ahead!
Second his nomination!
Lesser people have been given more!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172580</id>
	<title>Linus v. Obama?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258738860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In general I'd say no, of course not, don't be silly.  An ACM prize sure, but not a Nobel Peace Prize.</p><p>But if Obama can get one for doing nothing, surely Linus can get one for doing something.</p><p>(And I'm an Obama supporter, by the way.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In general I 'd say no , of course not , do n't be silly .
An ACM prize sure , but not a Nobel Peace Prize.But if Obama can get one for doing nothing , surely Linus can get one for doing something .
( And I 'm an Obama supporter , by the way .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In general I'd say no, of course not, don't be silly.
An ACM prize sure, but not a Nobel Peace Prize.But if Obama can get one for doing nothing, surely Linus can get one for doing something.
(And I'm an Obama supporter, by the way.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174758</id>
	<title>Re:Yes!</title>
	<author>izomiac</author>
	<datestamp>1258746300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>With the egos involved this actually is a fairly close analog to international negotiation.  IMHO awarding the entire open source movement would be a good idea, perhaps with Torvalds and a few others individually recognized (a la "Al Gore &amp; the IPCC").</htmltext>
<tokenext>With the egos involved this actually is a fairly close analog to international negotiation .
IMHO awarding the entire open source movement would be a good idea , perhaps with Torvalds and a few others individually recognized ( a la " Al Gore &amp; the IPCC " ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With the egos involved this actually is a fairly close analog to international negotiation.
IMHO awarding the entire open source movement would be a good idea, perhaps with Torvalds and a few others individually recognized (a la "Al Gore &amp; the IPCC").</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173274</id>
	<title>(used to be) the highest respect</title>
	<author>fulldecent</author>
	<datestamp>1258741200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... wait until the Chrome OS PC comes out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... wait until the Chrome OS PC comes out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... wait until the Chrome OS PC comes out.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173468</id>
	<title>Re:Linux Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258741860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>There are real people making real change on this planet.</i></p><p>Name one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are real people making real change on this planet.Name one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are real people making real change on this planet.Name one.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172544</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173672</id>
	<title>Unfortunately Comp Sci isn't considered science</title>
	<author>joeflies</author>
	<datestamp>1258742760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>The example that Eric Schmidt stated to the New York Times was that Tim Berners Lee should have been given a Nobel Prize, but the Nobel community doesn't consider computer science to be in the same spectrum as other traditional life or physic sciences. I think both Tim is without question worthy of a Nobel, and there's a strong case for Linus as well, but it's questionable whether either has the political clout to win.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The example that Eric Schmidt stated to the New York Times was that Tim Berners Lee should have been given a Nobel Prize , but the Nobel community does n't consider computer science to be in the same spectrum as other traditional life or physic sciences .
I think both Tim is without question worthy of a Nobel , and there 's a strong case for Linus as well , but it 's questionable whether either has the political clout to win .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The example that Eric Schmidt stated to the New York Times was that Tim Berners Lee should have been given a Nobel Prize, but the Nobel community doesn't consider computer science to be in the same spectrum as other traditional life or physic sciences.
I think both Tim is without question worthy of a Nobel, and there's a strong case for Linus as well, but it's questionable whether either has the political clout to win.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30183880</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258815600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Obama can get a nobel peace prize, then Linus surely could!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Obama can get a nobel peace prize , then Linus surely could !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Obama can get a nobel peace prize, then Linus surely could!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172504</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173854</id>
	<title>You gotta be kidding...</title>
	<author>pottymouth</author>
	<datestamp>1258743420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They just gave it to a guy for NOT being George Bush!! Linus isn't George Bush, why shouldn't he get one too? Hell, put 'em on a roll and we can all wipe our asses with them for all they're worth...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They just gave it to a guy for NOT being George Bush ! !
Linus is n't George Bush , why should n't he get one too ?
Hell , put 'em on a roll and we can all wipe our asses with them for all they 're worth.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They just gave it to a guy for NOT being George Bush!!
Linus isn't George Bush, why shouldn't he get one too?
Hell, put 'em on a roll and we can all wipe our asses with them for all they're worth...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30175960</id>
	<title>it depends</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258750200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He's a better candidate than Kissinger...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's a better candidate than Kissinger.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's a better candidate than Kissinger...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173200</id>
	<title>but he \_is\_ a politician!</title>
	<author>cfriedt</author>
	<datestamp>1258740960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This could be a very historic moment!</p><p>It could potentially be the first time the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benevolent\_Dictator\_For\_Life" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">(benevolent) dictator</a> [wikipedia.org]! I'm pretty sure that still qualifies him as somehow politically active.</p><p>In all seriousness though - Linus' contribution was definitely revolutionary, and has changed the world in a very positive way. I can't imagine what evil regime I would be stuck working for if I hadn't started playing with Linux so many years ago.</p><p>If Linus were to win the prize, I would imagine that he should probably put the funds back into a charitable organization, since there are and were countless numbers of others who have made substantial contributions to the evolution of his kernel as well.</p><p>Maybe he could rename it the <a href="http://ra-ajax.org/richard-stallman-gnu-linux-han-solo-and-luke-skywalker.blog" title="ra-ajax.org" rel="nofollow">Han Solo Award</a> [ra-ajax.org] and give it back to the <a href="http://www.fsf.org/" title="fsf.org" rel="nofollow">Rebel Fleet</a> [fsf.org].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This could be a very historic moment ! It could potentially be the first time the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to a ( benevolent ) dictator [ wikipedia.org ] !
I 'm pretty sure that still qualifies him as somehow politically active.In all seriousness though - Linus ' contribution was definitely revolutionary , and has changed the world in a very positive way .
I ca n't imagine what evil regime I would be stuck working for if I had n't started playing with Linux so many years ago.If Linus were to win the prize , I would imagine that he should probably put the funds back into a charitable organization , since there are and were countless numbers of others who have made substantial contributions to the evolution of his kernel as well.Maybe he could rename it the Han Solo Award [ ra-ajax.org ] and give it back to the Rebel Fleet [ fsf.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This could be a very historic moment!It could potentially be the first time the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to a (benevolent) dictator [wikipedia.org]!
I'm pretty sure that still qualifies him as somehow politically active.In all seriousness though - Linus' contribution was definitely revolutionary, and has changed the world in a very positive way.
I can't imagine what evil regime I would be stuck working for if I hadn't started playing with Linux so many years ago.If Linus were to win the prize, I would imagine that he should probably put the funds back into a charitable organization, since there are and were countless numbers of others who have made substantial contributions to the evolution of his kernel as well.Maybe he could rename it the Han Solo Award [ra-ajax.org] and give it back to the Rebel Fleet [fsf.org].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172532</id>
	<title>List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258738740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps we could better decide if we saw a list of Linus' global peace initiatives...</p><p>Gregor</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps we could better decide if we saw a list of Linus ' global peace initiatives...Gregor</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps we could better decide if we saw a list of Linus' global peace initiatives...Gregor</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174594</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1258745820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>. If anyone, it should be Stallman, for writing the GPL, for starting the free software movement and spreading knowlege of the existence of free software and for explicitly backing a public cause, and basically dedicating his life to it.</i></p><p>Yeah but Stallman's already given himself a sainthood. Poor Linus has nothing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.
If anyone , it should be Stallman , for writing the GPL , for starting the free software movement and spreading knowlege of the existence of free software and for explicitly backing a public cause , and basically dedicating his life to it.Yeah but Stallman 's already given himself a sainthood .
Poor Linus has nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.
If anyone, it should be Stallman, for writing the GPL, for starting the free software movement and spreading knowlege of the existence of free software and for explicitly backing a public cause, and basically dedicating his life to it.Yeah but Stallman's already given himself a sainthood.
Poor Linus has nothing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173190</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30175036</id>
	<title>Re:Why not?</title>
	<author>el3mentary</author>
	<datestamp>1258747260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To be fair, Global warming, Palestine and most of the worlds problems are at least partially caused by the USA.</p><p>I'd post Anon but my karma's strong enough to take the hit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair , Global warming , Palestine and most of the worlds problems are at least partially caused by the USA.I 'd post Anon but my karma 's strong enough to take the hit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair, Global warming, Palestine and most of the worlds problems are at least partially caused by the USA.I'd post Anon but my karma's strong enough to take the hit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174100</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172824</id>
	<title>Re:That's GNU/Linux, you insensitive clod!</title>
	<author>Penguinisto</author>
	<datestamp>1258739580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...he would refuse it anyway, on the grounds that it wasn't called the "GNU/Nobel Peace Prize".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...he would refuse it anyway , on the grounds that it was n't called the " GNU/Nobel Peace Prize " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...he would refuse it anyway, on the grounds that it wasn't called the "GNU/Nobel Peace Prize".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172556</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173122</id>
	<title>Re:Can we stop with the Obama comparisons?</title>
	<author>alinuxguruofyore</author>
	<datestamp>1258740600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Carl von Ossietsky received his award for publishing details about Treaty of Versailles violations in 1931.   He gets an A for effort even if his effort was fruitless.

Obama's "real accomplishment as the first black US President"  does not constitute effort at all.    Obama won because of the cult of personality, and not based on any historical activity.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Carl von Ossietsky received his award for publishing details about Treaty of Versailles violations in 1931 .
He gets an A for effort even if his effort was fruitless .
Obama 's " real accomplishment as the first black US President " does not constitute effort at all .
Obama won because of the cult of personality , and not based on any historical activity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Carl von Ossietsky received his award for publishing details about Treaty of Versailles violations in 1931.
He gets an A for effort even if his effort was fruitless.
Obama's "real accomplishment as the first black US President"  does not constitute effort at all.
Obama won because of the cult of personality, and not based on any historical activity.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172906</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174074</id>
	<title>Is it what?</title>
	<author>sbeckstead</author>
	<datestamp>1258744200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Is it worthy of wider attention and discussion?</i> <br>
NO!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it worthy of wider attention and discussion ?
NO !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it worthy of wider attention and discussion?
NO!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30177260</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258711680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people all over the globe...</i></p><p>I prefer to measure the size of a development team in units of man-piles rather than tons.  I'm even writing a book, "The Mythical Man Pile"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people all over the globe...I prefer to measure the size of a development team in units of man-piles rather than tons .
I 'm even writing a book , " The Mythical Man Pile "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people all over the globe...I prefer to measure the size of a development team in units of man-piles rather than tons.
I'm even writing a book, "The Mythical Man Pile"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172762</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30181798</id>
	<title>Absolutely</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258737060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Definitely. He certainly deserves it more than Obama.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Definitely .
He certainly deserves it more than Obama .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Definitely.
He certainly deserves it more than Obama.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172556</id>
	<title>That's GNU/Linux, you insensitive clod!</title>
	<author>nycguy</author>
	<datestamp>1258738800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Richard Stallman is bristling with righteous indignation that this proposal was not for a co-nomination!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Richard Stallman is bristling with righteous indignation that this proposal was not for a co-nomination !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Richard Stallman is bristling with righteous indignation that this proposal was not for a co-nomination!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176024</id>
	<title>Re:That's GNU/Linux, you insensitive clod!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258750620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linus? I think you might be mistaking him for someone else...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus ?
I think you might be mistaking him for someone else.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus?
I think you might be mistaking him for someone else...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172824</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173556</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258742280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If anyone, it should be Stallman, for writing the GPL, for starting the free software movement and spreading knowlege of the existence of free software and for explicitly backing a public cause, and basically dedicating his life to it.  In comparison, Torvalds is just an above average software engineer/project manager, who doesn't care about the public good so much as writing good code and getting the credit.</p></div><p>That is the point.  Stallman founded a religion, and Torvalds gave us a tool.  Yes, you needed the religion first, but a lot more people were willing to work on the tool.  That was the real tipping point for FOSS.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If anyone , it should be Stallman , for writing the GPL , for starting the free software movement and spreading knowlege of the existence of free software and for explicitly backing a public cause , and basically dedicating his life to it .
In comparison , Torvalds is just an above average software engineer/project manager , who does n't care about the public good so much as writing good code and getting the credit.That is the point .
Stallman founded a religion , and Torvalds gave us a tool .
Yes , you needed the religion first , but a lot more people were willing to work on the tool .
That was the real tipping point for FOSS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If anyone, it should be Stallman, for writing the GPL, for starting the free software movement and spreading knowlege of the existence of free software and for explicitly backing a public cause, and basically dedicating his life to it.
In comparison, Torvalds is just an above average software engineer/project manager, who doesn't care about the public good so much as writing good code and getting the credit.That is the point.
Stallman founded a religion, and Torvalds gave us a tool.
Yes, you needed the religion first, but a lot more people were willing to work on the tool.
That was the real tipping point for FOSS.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173190</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30204852</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259007420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Obama can get the Peace prize for a message that he hasn't even delivered on then I would say that Torvalds is MUCH more deserving in comparison.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Obama can get the Peace prize for a message that he has n't even delivered on then I would say that Torvalds is MUCH more deserving in comparison .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Obama can get the Peace prize for a message that he hasn't even delivered on then I would say that Torvalds is MUCH more deserving in comparison.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174680</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30188502</id>
	<title>Re:Sure, why not?</title>
	<author>sixoh1</author>
	<datestamp>1258802640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would have to agree with that statement - like most good oligarch/monopolists (Mellon, Carnegie, Ford) in America, the end game is to rehabilitate your image by giving to charities with your iconic name attached. The fact that the Bill &amp; Melinda Gates Foundation is giving money to stop malaria in Africa and other actions which can dramatically affect suffering of the poorer quartile of the worlds population is some, instead of making art museums, if not sufficient, is significant amelioration for the monopolistic way he ended up with that money. Goading him and others into doing more of this is the point of Nobel prizes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would have to agree with that statement - like most good oligarch/monopolists ( Mellon , Carnegie , Ford ) in America , the end game is to rehabilitate your image by giving to charities with your iconic name attached .
The fact that the Bill &amp; Melinda Gates Foundation is giving money to stop malaria in Africa and other actions which can dramatically affect suffering of the poorer quartile of the worlds population is some , instead of making art museums , if not sufficient , is significant amelioration for the monopolistic way he ended up with that money .
Goading him and others into doing more of this is the point of Nobel prizes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would have to agree with that statement - like most good oligarch/monopolists (Mellon, Carnegie, Ford) in America, the end game is to rehabilitate your image by giving to charities with your iconic name attached.
The fact that the Bill &amp; Melinda Gates Foundation is giving money to stop malaria in Africa and other actions which can dramatically affect suffering of the poorer quartile of the worlds population is some, instead of making art museums, if not sufficient, is significant amelioration for the monopolistic way he ended up with that money.
Goading him and others into doing more of this is the point of Nobel prizes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173632</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30223638</id>
	<title>Not a good idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257152820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, that's a stupid idea. It's not promoting or creating peace on a global scale. It's a hacker/business tool. "World-wide co-operation", sure - in a way - but not in any way close to what it should require to actually be nominated and receive the NPP. But then again, a self-serving hack (Al Bore) and a promising president that hasn't been able to actually DO much yet for world peace except being elected in the first place (Barak DaBama) have been nominated and won, so why not a hacker? I'm sorry, but it's just not important in that way, because it's rarely USED in the way OP thinks. No offense, Linus, but no NPP for you. A science nomination on the other hand...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , that 's a stupid idea .
It 's not promoting or creating peace on a global scale .
It 's a hacker/business tool .
" World-wide co-operation " , sure - in a way - but not in any way close to what it should require to actually be nominated and receive the NPP .
But then again , a self-serving hack ( Al Bore ) and a promising president that has n't been able to actually DO much yet for world peace except being elected in the first place ( Barak DaBama ) have been nominated and won , so why not a hacker ?
I 'm sorry , but it 's just not important in that way , because it 's rarely USED in the way OP thinks .
No offense , Linus , but no NPP for you .
A science nomination on the other hand.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, that's a stupid idea.
It's not promoting or creating peace on a global scale.
It's a hacker/business tool.
"World-wide co-operation", sure - in a way - but not in any way close to what it should require to actually be nominated and receive the NPP.
But then again, a self-serving hack (Al Bore) and a promising president that hasn't been able to actually DO much yet for world peace except being elected in the first place (Barak DaBama) have been nominated and won, so why not a hacker?
I'm sorry, but it's just not important in that way, because it's rarely USED in the way OP thinks.
No offense, Linus, but no NPP for you.
A science nomination on the other hand...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174544</id>
	<title>The idea is absurd</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258745700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...but then, the list of peace prize winners isn't all that sensible either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...but then , the list of peace prize winners is n't all that sensible either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...but then, the list of peace prize winners isn't all that sensible either.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30266830</id>
	<title>agusadhi</title>
	<author>agusadhi</author>
	<datestamp>1259518080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Linus trovald was entitled to a nobel, therefore, many people can learn to develop operating systems and also uses the operating system free of charge. linux product of which has been developed is not lost either by non propitery operating system software. even more advantages, both performance and looks<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus trovald was entitled to a nobel , therefore , many people can learn to develop operating systems and also uses the operating system free of charge .
linux product of which has been developed is not lost either by non propitery operating system software .
even more advantages , both performance and looks .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus trovald was entitled to a nobel, therefore, many people can learn to develop operating systems and also uses the operating system free of charge.
linux product of which has been developed is not lost either by non propitery operating system software.
even more advantages, both performance and looks ...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30177112</id>
	<title>oh well...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258711140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>someone proposed Silvio Berlusconi, why not Linus Torvalds?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>someone proposed Silvio Berlusconi , why not Linus Torvalds ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>someone proposed Silvio Berlusconi, why not Linus Torvalds?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30237018</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259251320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linus deserves it more than Obama and Al Gore put together.  Why not?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus deserves it more than Obama and Al Gore put together .
Why not ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus deserves it more than Obama and Al Gore put together.
Why not?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172608</id>
	<title>Richard M. Stallman</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258738920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, then a far better case can be argued for a Nobel Prize to be extended to the father of free software, Richard M. Stallman.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , then a far better case can be argued for a Nobel Prize to be extended to the father of free software , Richard M. Stallman .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, then a far better case can be argued for a Nobel Prize to be extended to the father of free software, Richard M. Stallman.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172562</id>
	<title>Well...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258738860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't say he is less worthy than Obama. Obama's biggest claim to fame is that he is not George Bush. Linus isn't George Bush either, so I guess his qualifications are in order.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't say he is less worthy than Obama .
Obama 's biggest claim to fame is that he is not George Bush .
Linus is n't George Bush either , so I guess his qualifications are in order .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't say he is less worthy than Obama.
Obama's biggest claim to fame is that he is not George Bush.
Linus isn't George Bush either, so I guess his qualifications are in order.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30178314</id>
	<title>Boson, not "bosun"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258715220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Or for the lulz, Stallman and Palin. Can you imagine the two of them in the same room? The improbability is SO high that the universe might finally have to hork up a Higgs Bosun.</p><p>Nah, we already know what would happen:  they would both be annihilated in a burst of gamma rays.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Or for the lulz , Stallman and Palin .
Can you imagine the two of them in the same room ?
The improbability is SO high that the universe might finally have to hork up a Higgs Bosun.Nah , we already know what would happen : they would both be annihilated in a burst of gamma rays .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Or for the lulz, Stallman and Palin.
Can you imagine the two of them in the same room?
The improbability is SO high that the universe might finally have to hork up a Higgs Bosun.Nah, we already know what would happen:  they would both be annihilated in a burst of gamma rays.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30175324</id>
	<title>Stallman deserves it more than Torvalds</title>
	<author>rcb1974</author>
	<datestamp>1258748160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>More people need to recognize that Stallman has done more for free software than Torvalds.</htmltext>
<tokenext>More people need to recognize that Stallman has done more for free software than Torvalds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More people need to recognize that Stallman has done more for free software than Torvalds.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173736</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258743060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people all over the globe and made a project that has helped change the computer industry and lower costs, making computing more affordable for everyone.</i></p><p>He is also responsible for more flame wars than any other single living being.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people all over the globe and made a project that has helped change the computer industry and lower costs , making computing more affordable for everyone.He is also responsible for more flame wars than any other single living being .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people all over the globe and made a project that has helped change the computer industry and lower costs, making computing more affordable for everyone.He is also responsible for more flame wars than any other single living being.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172618</id>
	<title>Hey, if Obama got it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258738980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Obama got it for doing essentially nothing after being in office for less than a year (and nominated after only a few months?) then I'm sure Linus has already earned it just by waking up this morning and drinking his coffee.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Obama got it for doing essentially nothing after being in office for less than a year ( and nominated after only a few months ?
) then I 'm sure Linus has already earned it just by waking up this morning and drinking his coffee .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Obama got it for doing essentially nothing after being in office for less than a year (and nominated after only a few months?
) then I'm sure Linus has already earned it just by waking up this morning and drinking his coffee.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174162</id>
	<title>Close but no cigar</title>
	<author>Daveez</author>
	<datestamp>1258744440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
I do not question the important relevance in freely developed community software, but Linus is just one of the guys who participated. I admit, his contribution is one of the most hard hitting of them all but he didn't start it. If anyone deserves the prize it should be Richard Stallman. Without him, the Linux kernel would be useless without the rest of the GNU System.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do not question the important relevance in freely developed community software , but Linus is just one of the guys who participated .
I admit , his contribution is one of the most hard hitting of them all but he did n't start it .
If anyone deserves the prize it should be Richard Stallman .
Without him , the Linux kernel would be useless without the rest of the GNU System .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I do not question the important relevance in freely developed community software, but Linus is just one of the guys who participated.
I admit, his contribution is one of the most hard hitting of them all but he didn't start it.
If anyone deserves the prize it should be Richard Stallman.
Without him, the Linux kernel would be useless without the rest of the GNU System.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172868</id>
	<title>Re:Well...</title>
	<author>scorp1us</author>
	<datestamp>1258739700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linus has though, fueled many thousands of  flame-wars with his product.</p><p>Obama just fuels just one Afgan war.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus has though , fueled many thousands of flame-wars with his product.Obama just fuels just one Afgan war .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus has though, fueled many thousands of  flame-wars with his product.Obama just fuels just one Afgan war.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172562</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30175564</id>
	<title>Really? Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>idontgno</author>
	<datestamp>1258748820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really?</p><p>Have you seen the flamage on <a href="http://www.tux.org/lkml/" title="tux.org">LKML?</a> [tux.org] </p><p>If that's peace I'll take war any day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really ? Have you seen the flamage on LKML ?
[ tux.org ] If that 's peace I 'll take war any day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really?Have you seen the flamage on LKML?
[tux.org] If that's peace I'll take war any day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174186</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>JWW</author>
	<datestamp>1258744500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know you're being facetious but I really do believe that Linux IS a peaceful initiative.  I has fostered worldwide collaboration across all political boundaries.  People of many cultures, races, religions, etc. have participated in building Linux.</p><p>I think Linux is a Force For Good (TM)</p><p>I think Linus would be an excellent peace prize recipient.  I think the case for him is much stronger than the ones for Al Gore, Obama (at least right now), and Yassir Arafat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know you 're being facetious but I really do believe that Linux IS a peaceful initiative .
I has fostered worldwide collaboration across all political boundaries .
People of many cultures , races , religions , etc .
have participated in building Linux.I think Linux is a Force For Good ( TM ) I think Linus would be an excellent peace prize recipient .
I think the case for him is much stronger than the ones for Al Gore , Obama ( at least right now ) , and Yassir Arafat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know you're being facetious but I really do believe that Linux IS a peaceful initiative.
I has fostered worldwide collaboration across all political boundaries.
People of many cultures, races, religions, etc.
have participated in building Linux.I think Linux is a Force For Good (TM)I think Linus would be an excellent peace prize recipient.
I think the case for him is much stronger than the ones for Al Gore, Obama (at least right now), and Yassir Arafat.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172532</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173560</id>
	<title>Re:Linux Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>Maximum Prophet</author>
	<datestamp>1258742280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>In a sense, it would be like giving the Peace Prize to the manufacturer of the hammer that was first used on the Berlin Wall.</p></div><p>If hammers were in short supply and the one thing holding back the fall of the wall was the availability of a hammer, then yes, the supplier of the hammer could be considered for the prize.  But, it wasn't and he isn't.
<br> <br>
Arguably it was RMS that did the most to create FOSS.  Linus created a freely available kernel (not the first).  RMS created a text editor and a compiler. (not the first either).  What RMS did was create a framework that allowed people to share their work, the GPL.  RMS convinced Linus to use this framework.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In a sense , it would be like giving the Peace Prize to the manufacturer of the hammer that was first used on the Berlin Wall.If hammers were in short supply and the one thing holding back the fall of the wall was the availability of a hammer , then yes , the supplier of the hammer could be considered for the prize .
But , it was n't and he is n't .
Arguably it was RMS that did the most to create FOSS .
Linus created a freely available kernel ( not the first ) .
RMS created a text editor and a compiler .
( not the first either ) .
What RMS did was create a framework that allowed people to share their work , the GPL .
RMS convinced Linus to use this framework .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In a sense, it would be like giving the Peace Prize to the manufacturer of the hammer that was first used on the Berlin Wall.If hammers were in short supply and the one thing holding back the fall of the wall was the availability of a hammer, then yes, the supplier of the hammer could be considered for the prize.
But, it wasn't and he isn't.
Arguably it was RMS that did the most to create FOSS.
Linus created a freely available kernel (not the first).
RMS created a text editor and a compiler.
(not the first either).
What RMS did was create a framework that allowed people to share their work, the GPL.
RMS convinced Linus to use this framework.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30186434</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>wd5gnr</author>
	<datestamp>1258832520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apparently RMS and Linus are both too violent to get the peace award: <a href="http://xkcd.com/225/" title="xkcd.com" rel="nofollow">http://xkcd.com/225/</a> [xkcd.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently RMS and Linus are both too violent to get the peace award : http : //xkcd.com/225/ [ xkcd.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently RMS and Linus are both too violent to get the peace award: http://xkcd.com/225/ [xkcd.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172600</id>
	<title>Not a Campaigned Award</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1258738920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Is it worthy of wider attention and discussion?</p></div><p>Why do you talk about it?  Find someone in this list:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes;</p></div><p>Willing to <a href="http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/" title="nobelprize.org">Submit him for it</a> [nobelprize.org] and go back to coding.  Don't go campaigning for some person to win the Nobel peace prize, call up your contacts at Washington University and discuss it with them.  If you can't convince them to nominate him, it's probably not going to work.  <br> <br>

This is not an elected award so I wouldn't waste my time trying to impose outside influence on a committee for a Nobel prize.  The committee decides, not the community.  I'm sure every profession has their savior/icon that they think deserves this award for revolutionizing something and altering humanity for the better.  You're free to talk all you want but it's not going to change anything.  Discussing it online is nothing but a waste of time unless your intentions are to embarrass Linus.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it worthy of wider attention and discussion ? Why do you talk about it ?
Find someone in this list : University rectors ; professors of social sciences , history , philosophy , law and theology ; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes ; Willing to Submit him for it [ nobelprize.org ] and go back to coding .
Do n't go campaigning for some person to win the Nobel peace prize , call up your contacts at Washington University and discuss it with them .
If you ca n't convince them to nominate him , it 's probably not going to work .
This is not an elected award so I would n't waste my time trying to impose outside influence on a committee for a Nobel prize .
The committee decides , not the community .
I 'm sure every profession has their savior/icon that they think deserves this award for revolutionizing something and altering humanity for the better .
You 're free to talk all you want but it 's not going to change anything .
Discussing it online is nothing but a waste of time unless your intentions are to embarrass Linus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it worthy of wider attention and discussion?Why do you talk about it?
Find someone in this list:University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes;Willing to Submit him for it [nobelprize.org] and go back to coding.
Don't go campaigning for some person to win the Nobel peace prize, call up your contacts at Washington University and discuss it with them.
If you can't convince them to nominate him, it's probably not going to work.
This is not an elected award so I wouldn't waste my time trying to impose outside influence on a committee for a Nobel prize.
The committee decides, not the community.
I'm sure every profession has their savior/icon that they think deserves this award for revolutionizing something and altering humanity for the better.
You're free to talk all you want but it's not going to change anything.
Discussing it online is nothing but a waste of time unless your intentions are to embarrass Linus.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172930</id>
	<title>Re:Linux Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>cupantae</author>
	<datestamp>1258739940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it's not going to happen either, but it's interesting to think that if somebody managed to pull off a successful large scale OLPC-type venture involving Linux, it would be him or her to be considered for the prize. The truth is, the world is a lot better with Linux, even though the people who could really do with using it generally aren't. Apart from the fact that it allows so much to be kept from the corporate stranglehold, Linux is really the driving force behind the open source movement, which is a very real and significant thing. Who would have thought ten years ago that CodePlex was to come?</p><p>There should be more recognition for the people that are "behind the scenes" - the people without whom we couldn't have the big, headline-catching, landmark events that showmen get all the credit for. I think that's what is the desire in the article for someone who's not a politician getting the prize, although the argument wasn't terribly well formed.</p><p>One reason that so many of us are initially (or permanently) dismissive of the notion is that it's so hard to gauge what Linus has done for the world. How can we really know what the world would be like without Linux? Would *BSD or HURD get the development attention to bring them to Linux's standard (apologies to fans of these OS's)? Personally, I believe that Linux is quite strongly responsible for the quality of these and Haiku and all the rest of the OS OS's in use now. Linux has been a strong driving force because of the philosophy, and vitally, because of Linus Torvalds.</p><p>Don't use past recipients' unworthiness as reason to give it to him: Linus is worthy regardless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's not going to happen either , but it 's interesting to think that if somebody managed to pull off a successful large scale OLPC-type venture involving Linux , it would be him or her to be considered for the prize .
The truth is , the world is a lot better with Linux , even though the people who could really do with using it generally are n't .
Apart from the fact that it allows so much to be kept from the corporate stranglehold , Linux is really the driving force behind the open source movement , which is a very real and significant thing .
Who would have thought ten years ago that CodePlex was to come ? There should be more recognition for the people that are " behind the scenes " - the people without whom we could n't have the big , headline-catching , landmark events that showmen get all the credit for .
I think that 's what is the desire in the article for someone who 's not a politician getting the prize , although the argument was n't terribly well formed.One reason that so many of us are initially ( or permanently ) dismissive of the notion is that it 's so hard to gauge what Linus has done for the world .
How can we really know what the world would be like without Linux ?
Would * BSD or HURD get the development attention to bring them to Linux 's standard ( apologies to fans of these OS 's ) ?
Personally , I believe that Linux is quite strongly responsible for the quality of these and Haiku and all the rest of the OS OS 's in use now .
Linux has been a strong driving force because of the philosophy , and vitally , because of Linus Torvalds.Do n't use past recipients ' unworthiness as reason to give it to him : Linus is worthy regardless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's not going to happen either, but it's interesting to think that if somebody managed to pull off a successful large scale OLPC-type venture involving Linux, it would be him or her to be considered for the prize.
The truth is, the world is a lot better with Linux, even though the people who could really do with using it generally aren't.
Apart from the fact that it allows so much to be kept from the corporate stranglehold, Linux is really the driving force behind the open source movement, which is a very real and significant thing.
Who would have thought ten years ago that CodePlex was to come?There should be more recognition for the people that are "behind the scenes" - the people without whom we couldn't have the big, headline-catching, landmark events that showmen get all the credit for.
I think that's what is the desire in the article for someone who's not a politician getting the prize, although the argument wasn't terribly well formed.One reason that so many of us are initially (or permanently) dismissive of the notion is that it's so hard to gauge what Linus has done for the world.
How can we really know what the world would be like without Linux?
Would *BSD or HURD get the development attention to bring them to Linux's standard (apologies to fans of these OS's)?
Personally, I believe that Linux is quite strongly responsible for the quality of these and Haiku and all the rest of the OS OS's in use now.
Linux has been a strong driving force because of the philosophy, and vitally, because of Linus Torvalds.Don't use past recipients' unworthiness as reason to give it to him: Linus is worthy regardless.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30177234</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258711560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is a true story. A man lost his <a href="http://www.trollaxor.com/2009/11/linux-2012-real-disaster.html" title="trollaxor.com" rel="nofollow">genitals</a> [trollaxor.com] in the war, so he took to freezing his poo and taking it out when getting hot and heavy with a lady. He always had to buy extra-thick condoms.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a true story .
A man lost his genitals [ trollaxor.com ] in the war , so he took to freezing his poo and taking it out when getting hot and heavy with a lady .
He always had to buy extra-thick condoms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a true story.
A man lost his genitals [trollaxor.com] in the war, so he took to freezing his poo and taking it out when getting hot and heavy with a lady.
He always had to buy extra-thick condoms.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30175966</id>
	<title>Re:Unfortunately Comp Sci isn't considered science</title>
	<author>fishexe</author>
	<datestamp>1258750200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The example that Eric Schmidt stated to the New York Times was that Tim Berners Lee should have been given a Nobel Prize, but the Nobel community doesn't consider computer science to be in the same spectrum as other traditional life or physic sciences. I think both Tim is without question worthy of a Nobel, and there's a strong case for Linus as well, but it's questionable whether either has the political clout to win.</p></div><p>Comp sci isn't considered science by the Nobel committee, but that's entirely beside the point.  What Torvalds has done is organize an international community to produce a product, a product that enriches millions of lives, based on a very unconventional model (namely, giving it away).  What Berners did was science: he didn't build the web, he proved the model, wrote the proof (in the form of a browser and server) and let it take off from there.  For the record, I think Berners-Lee's contribution to the world has been greater than Linus' and he deserves many honors, but he also falls on the other side of the Nobel criteria.  While both deserve a Nobel in Computer Science (once the committee gets around to adding one in 202X) Torvalds specifically deserves one for Peace, for building and sustaining an international community that benefits millions and contributes to international understanding.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The example that Eric Schmidt stated to the New York Times was that Tim Berners Lee should have been given a Nobel Prize , but the Nobel community does n't consider computer science to be in the same spectrum as other traditional life or physic sciences .
I think both Tim is without question worthy of a Nobel , and there 's a strong case for Linus as well , but it 's questionable whether either has the political clout to win.Comp sci is n't considered science by the Nobel committee , but that 's entirely beside the point .
What Torvalds has done is organize an international community to produce a product , a product that enriches millions of lives , based on a very unconventional model ( namely , giving it away ) .
What Berners did was science : he did n't build the web , he proved the model , wrote the proof ( in the form of a browser and server ) and let it take off from there .
For the record , I think Berners-Lee 's contribution to the world has been greater than Linus ' and he deserves many honors , but he also falls on the other side of the Nobel criteria .
While both deserve a Nobel in Computer Science ( once the committee gets around to adding one in 202X ) Torvalds specifically deserves one for Peace , for building and sustaining an international community that benefits millions and contributes to international understanding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The example that Eric Schmidt stated to the New York Times was that Tim Berners Lee should have been given a Nobel Prize, but the Nobel community doesn't consider computer science to be in the same spectrum as other traditional life or physic sciences.
I think both Tim is without question worthy of a Nobel, and there's a strong case for Linus as well, but it's questionable whether either has the political clout to win.Comp sci isn't considered science by the Nobel committee, but that's entirely beside the point.
What Torvalds has done is organize an international community to produce a product, a product that enriches millions of lives, based on a very unconventional model (namely, giving it away).
What Berners did was science: he didn't build the web, he proved the model, wrote the proof (in the form of a browser and server) and let it take off from there.
For the record, I think Berners-Lee's contribution to the world has been greater than Linus' and he deserves many honors, but he also falls on the other side of the Nobel criteria.
While both deserve a Nobel in Computer Science (once the committee gets around to adding one in 202X) Torvalds specifically deserves one for Peace, for building and sustaining an international community that benefits millions and contributes to international understanding.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30181990</id>
	<title>Re:What are you talking about?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258739100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I nominate meatloaf.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I nominate meatloaf .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I nominate meatloaf.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174100</id>
	<title>Re:Why not?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258744260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean, he's going to bash America? That seems to be the best way to get one.</p><p>Look at the others who got one. Algore for blaiming global warming on the US, Carter for a speach bashing the US, Barock for blaiming all the worlds problems on the US (and George Bush), Yasser Arafat for blaiming Palestines problems on the US,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>If you want a Nobel, you must bash the United States, otherwise, forget it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean , he 's going to bash America ?
That seems to be the best way to get one.Look at the others who got one .
Algore for blaiming global warming on the US , Carter for a speach bashing the US , Barock for blaiming all the worlds problems on the US ( and George Bush ) , Yasser Arafat for blaiming Palestines problems on the US , ...If you want a Nobel , you must bash the United States , otherwise , forget it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean, he's going to bash America?
That seems to be the best way to get one.Look at the others who got one.
Algore for blaiming global warming on the US, Carter for a speach bashing the US, Barock for blaiming all the worlds problems on the US (and George Bush), Yasser Arafat for blaiming Palestines problems on the US, ...If you want a Nobel, you must bash the United States, otherwise, forget it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172518</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172728</id>
	<title>Hmmm,</title>
	<author>HazMat 79</author>
	<datestamp>1258739280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>peace prize no. There are prizes for science fields also, maybe they could figure out if he deserves one of them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>peace prize no .
There are prizes for science fields also , maybe they could figure out if he deserves one of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>peace prize no.
There are prizes for science fields also, maybe they could figure out if he deserves one of them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176462</id>
	<title>Kernel?</title>
	<author>Vexorian</author>
	<datestamp>1258708980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is just the Linux kernel. It is a very useful and a good software product, but it is just a kernel... It is not that useful without a compiler to compile the kernel, or a shell to actually use it. The objective Torvalds had when coding that kernel was just for fun, he wouldn't expect it to save the world or anything...He is not the guy to match software with ideology or good intentions.<br>
<br>Not saying RMS deserves it either - no, he does not. The whole FOSS thing depends on the contributions of a lot of people, and there is no real "founding father" that deserves all that much credit.
<br>
<br>
Oh well, at least Linus definitely deserves it more than Obama.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is just the Linux kernel .
It is a very useful and a good software product , but it is just a kernel... It is not that useful without a compiler to compile the kernel , or a shell to actually use it .
The objective Torvalds had when coding that kernel was just for fun , he would n't expect it to save the world or anything...He is not the guy to match software with ideology or good intentions .
Not saying RMS deserves it either - no , he does not .
The whole FOSS thing depends on the contributions of a lot of people , and there is no real " founding father " that deserves all that much credit .
Oh well , at least Linus definitely deserves it more than Obama .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is just the Linux kernel.
It is a very useful and a good software product, but it is just a kernel... It is not that useful without a compiler to compile the kernel, or a shell to actually use it.
The objective Torvalds had when coding that kernel was just for fun, he wouldn't expect it to save the world or anything...He is not the guy to match software with ideology or good intentions.
Not saying RMS deserves it either - no, he does not.
The whole FOSS thing depends on the contributions of a lot of people, and there is no real "founding father" that deserves all that much credit.
Oh well, at least Linus definitely deserves it more than Obama.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30175458</id>
	<title>Not much of a local community type of guy...</title>
	<author>pdxp</author>
	<datestamp>1258748580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He never even visits the local university. There's thousands of computer science undergrads here that could learn a thing or two from him!</htmltext>
<tokenext>He never even visits the local university .
There 's thousands of computer science undergrads here that could learn a thing or two from him !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He never even visits the local university.
There's thousands of computer science undergrads here that could learn a thing or two from him!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174848</id>
	<title>No to Linus</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258746660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linus Torvalds is an egomaniacal ass.  Linux is awesome, but he doesn't promote peace or worldwide cooperation in any way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus Torvalds is an egomaniacal ass .
Linux is awesome , but he does n't promote peace or worldwide cooperation in any way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus Torvalds is an egomaniacal ass.
Linux is awesome, but he doesn't promote peace or worldwide cooperation in any way.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173128</id>
	<title>Re:Physics perhaps?</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1258740660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just sent him some cookies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just sent him some cookies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just sent him some cookies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174296</id>
	<title>I say a good for him</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1258744860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>by making linux an open and free OS, he has enabled many developing and 3rd world areas opportunities that they might not be able to afford, particularly in this age of technology we live in. Look at all the initiatives like OLPC or providing surplus PCs to these areas, most if not all would be running some flavor of linux on them. I say that is pretty significant. That's a pretty big impact on that part of the world.</p><p>as many have said, he has a better claim than simply "not being Bush"...</p><p>that said, ever since they did that, I have a hard time taking the award even a little bit seriously anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>by making linux an open and free OS , he has enabled many developing and 3rd world areas opportunities that they might not be able to afford , particularly in this age of technology we live in .
Look at all the initiatives like OLPC or providing surplus PCs to these areas , most if not all would be running some flavor of linux on them .
I say that is pretty significant .
That 's a pretty big impact on that part of the world.as many have said , he has a better claim than simply " not being Bush " ...that said , ever since they did that , I have a hard time taking the award even a little bit seriously anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>by making linux an open and free OS, he has enabled many developing and 3rd world areas opportunities that they might not be able to afford, particularly in this age of technology we live in.
Look at all the initiatives like OLPC or providing surplus PCs to these areas, most if not all would be running some flavor of linux on them.
I say that is pretty significant.
That's a pretty big impact on that part of the world.as many have said, he has a better claim than simply "not being Bush"...that said, ever since they did that, I have a hard time taking the award even a little bit seriously anymore.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173114</id>
	<title>Bill Gates</title>
	<author>Peregr1n</author>
	<datestamp>1258740600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I know this is contentious, but I quite like being the devil's advocate. Isn't Bill Gates more suited to the Nobel Peace Prize?<br>His philanthropy is unparalleled (by monetory value alone, anyway). His influence on the world of computing is undisputed. I'm not saying his influence has been good or bad... just that he's had influence. The world wouldn't be the same without Windows. Regardless of which operating system you favour (for me, it's a tie between OSX and Ubuntu), you cannot deny that Windows has been an important component in the spread of information and education across the world, and enabled all kinds of communication.<br>A lot of this stuff would have happened anyway, without Windows... but then I could argue that the US civil rights movement would have happened at some point without Martin Luther King (a previous Nobel Peace Prize winner).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know this is contentious , but I quite like being the devil 's advocate .
Is n't Bill Gates more suited to the Nobel Peace Prize ? His philanthropy is unparalleled ( by monetory value alone , anyway ) .
His influence on the world of computing is undisputed .
I 'm not saying his influence has been good or bad... just that he 's had influence .
The world would n't be the same without Windows .
Regardless of which operating system you favour ( for me , it 's a tie between OSX and Ubuntu ) , you can not deny that Windows has been an important component in the spread of information and education across the world , and enabled all kinds of communication.A lot of this stuff would have happened anyway , without Windows... but then I could argue that the US civil rights movement would have happened at some point without Martin Luther King ( a previous Nobel Peace Prize winner ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know this is contentious, but I quite like being the devil's advocate.
Isn't Bill Gates more suited to the Nobel Peace Prize?His philanthropy is unparalleled (by monetory value alone, anyway).
His influence on the world of computing is undisputed.
I'm not saying his influence has been good or bad... just that he's had influence.
The world wouldn't be the same without Windows.
Regardless of which operating system you favour (for me, it's a tie between OSX and Ubuntu), you cannot deny that Windows has been an important component in the spread of information and education across the world, and enabled all kinds of communication.A lot of this stuff would have happened anyway, without Windows... but then I could argue that the US civil rights movement would have happened at some point without Martin Luther King (a previous Nobel Peace Prize winner).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173524</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>QuantumRiff</author>
	<datestamp>1258742160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hitler and Stalin have been nominated for the prize, heck, Hitler was time magazine man of the year!</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel\_Peace\_Prize" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel\_Peace\_Prize</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hitler and Stalin have been nominated for the prize , heck , Hitler was time magazine man of the year ! http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel \ _Peace \ _Prize [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hitler and Stalin have been nominated for the prize, heck, Hitler was time magazine man of the year!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel\_Peace\_Prize [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172590</id>
	<title>We would be an excellent candidate.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258738920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He has done a lot more than Obama.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He has done a lot more than Obama .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He has done a lot more than Obama.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173454</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258741860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linus could also get one for not being George Bush.  In fact, there's a whole world of people who are eligible under the new criteria.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus could also get one for not being George Bush .
In fact , there 's a whole world of people who are eligible under the new criteria .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus could also get one for not being George Bush.
In fact, there's a whole world of people who are eligible under the new criteria.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30175614</id>
	<title>Why not?</title>
	<author>reedk</author>
	<datestamp>1258749000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He hasn't done anything to deserve it, which seems to be the standard these days.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He has n't done anything to deserve it , which seems to be the standard these days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He hasn't done anything to deserve it, which seems to be the standard these days.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174526</id>
	<title>How about NPFPC, China?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258745580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think National Population and Family Planning Commission of China would be the most worthy recipient of that prize. Of course all left wing, right wing, and religious middle in the west wouldn't agree. So what? Doesn't diminish its significance in reducing poverty and bringing peace to the world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think National Population and Family Planning Commission of China would be the most worthy recipient of that prize .
Of course all left wing , right wing , and religious middle in the west would n't agree .
So what ?
Does n't diminish its significance in reducing poverty and bringing peace to the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think National Population and Family Planning Commission of China would be the most worthy recipient of that prize.
Of course all left wing, right wing, and religious middle in the west wouldn't agree.
So what?
Doesn't diminish its significance in reducing poverty and bringing peace to the world.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173602</id>
	<title>Re:Well...</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1258742460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, I&rsquo;m not Bush either! And so is my dog!</p><p>Can I have two?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , I    m not Bush either !
And so is my dog ! Can I have two ?
: D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, I’m not Bush either!
And so is my dog!Can I have two?
:D</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176390</id>
	<title>Re:Unfortunately Comp Sci isn't considered science</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258708740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why Linus, what breakthrough has he made? Created a free alternative to Unix? Tim Barners Lee at least invented something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why Linus , what breakthrough has he made ?
Created a free alternative to Unix ?
Tim Barners Lee at least invented something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why Linus, what breakthrough has he made?
Created a free alternative to Unix?
Tim Barners Lee at least invented something.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174248</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258744740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>yes in that timeline BSD rules the roost.</p><p>Come on guys, if it wasn't linux, it would have been something else.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yes in that timeline BSD rules the roost.Come on guys , if it was n't linux , it would have been something else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yes in that timeline BSD rules the roost.Come on guys, if it wasn't linux, it would have been something else.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30182910</id>
	<title>Re:I would proudly vote for RMS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258798260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Amazing I had to scroll down this far to see this...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Amazing I had to scroll down this far to see this.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amazing I had to scroll down this far to see this...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173270</id>
	<title>Re:You know...why not?</title>
	<author>openfrog</author>
	<datestamp>1258741200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If ever a committee, whether for the Nobel Peace Prize (which is rather far fetched) or for any other distinction, consider the social import of free and open source software, which is undeniably considerable, they will examine its history and appraise the relative contributions to its development. The social framework in which Linus' contribution, which I greatly appreciate, could be possible at all, has been put in place and is still being attended to and maintained today, by another well known contributor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If ever a committee , whether for the Nobel Peace Prize ( which is rather far fetched ) or for any other distinction , consider the social import of free and open source software , which is undeniably considerable , they will examine its history and appraise the relative contributions to its development .
The social framework in which Linus ' contribution , which I greatly appreciate , could be possible at all , has been put in place and is still being attended to and maintained today , by another well known contributor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If ever a committee, whether for the Nobel Peace Prize (which is rather far fetched) or for any other distinction, consider the social import of free and open source software, which is undeniably considerable, they will examine its history and appraise the relative contributions to its development.
The social framework in which Linus' contribution, which I greatly appreciate, could be possible at all, has been put in place and is still being attended to and maintained today, by another well known contributor.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174234</id>
	<title>Re:Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation?</title>
	<author>hitnrunrambler</author>
	<datestamp>1258744680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It strikes me that a lot of good is being done by this body. Plus there's more to come. So it strikes me that Bill might be in line first, or maybe a shared one with Bill, Linus and Tim Berners-Lee or something.</p></div><p>There is good being done. There is also a lot of damage being done by misguided cultural meddling.*<br>I don't doubt that B &amp; M Gates have good intentions with their charity, but it gets handled like you would expect from any Corporate PR campaign, looking to make news rather than make a change.</p><p>(* the link provided by an AC below is a good start  <a href="http://www.latimes.com/business/la-na-gatesx7jan07-sg,0,2046572.storygallery" title="latimes.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/business/la-na-gatesx7jan07-sg,0,2046572.storygallery</a> [latimes.com] )</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It strikes me that a lot of good is being done by this body .
Plus there 's more to come .
So it strikes me that Bill might be in line first , or maybe a shared one with Bill , Linus and Tim Berners-Lee or something.There is good being done .
There is also a lot of damage being done by misguided cultural meddling .
* I do n't doubt that B &amp; M Gates have good intentions with their charity , but it gets handled like you would expect from any Corporate PR campaign , looking to make news rather than make a change .
( * the link provided by an AC below is a good start http : //www.latimes.com/business/la-na-gatesx7jan07-sg,0,2046572.storygallery [ latimes.com ] )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It strikes me that a lot of good is being done by this body.
Plus there's more to come.
So it strikes me that Bill might be in line first, or maybe a shared one with Bill, Linus and Tim Berners-Lee or something.There is good being done.
There is also a lot of damage being done by misguided cultural meddling.
*I don't doubt that B &amp; M Gates have good intentions with their charity, but it gets handled like you would expect from any Corporate PR campaign, looking to make news rather than make a change.
(* the link provided by an AC below is a good start  http://www.latimes.com/business/la-na-gatesx7jan07-sg,0,2046572.storygallery [latimes.com] )
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30211882</id>
	<title>AGREE</title>
	<author>AnibalOjeda</author>
	<datestamp>1259066280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree! Linus did a great job starting this, bringing people together. He should get this price NOT for him but for everyone involved in this opensource revolution.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree !
Linus did a great job starting this , bringing people together .
He should get this price NOT for him but for everyone involved in this opensource revolution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree!
Linus did a great job starting this, bringing people together.
He should get this price NOT for him but for everyone involved in this opensource revolution.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174158</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>Jazz-Masta</author>
	<datestamp>1258744440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Perhaps we could better decide if we saw a list of Linus' global peace initiatives...</p></div><p>Linus is the last person to get it...he started a WAR. Windows vs. Linux.</p><p>He single-handidly created an excuse for millions of trolls worldwide.</p><p>Without Linus, there would be no slashdot, without slashdot, 90\% of all Internet-related trolling and asshat posts would never have happened.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...j/k...Stallman would be better suited as he created the philosophy behind the free software movement.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps we could better decide if we saw a list of Linus ' global peace initiatives...Linus is the last person to get it...he started a WAR .
Windows vs. Linux.He single-handidly created an excuse for millions of trolls worldwide.Without Linus , there would be no slashdot , without slashdot , 90 \ % of all Internet-related trolling and asshat posts would never have happened .
...j/k...Stallman would be better suited as he created the philosophy behind the free software movement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps we could better decide if we saw a list of Linus' global peace initiatives...Linus is the last person to get it...he started a WAR.
Windows vs. Linux.He single-handidly created an excuse for millions of trolls worldwide.Without Linus, there would be no slashdot, without slashdot, 90\% of all Internet-related trolling and asshat posts would never have happened.
...j/k...Stallman would be better suited as he created the philosophy behind the free software movement.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30179034</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258717980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>$500 !?!!!  Where did you get that figure from?  Everybody knows that linux costs $699...go ahead, just ask some of those companies that paid for that worthless piece of paper from SCO, etc.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 500 ! ? ! ! !
Where did you get that figure from ?
Everybody knows that linux costs $ 699...go ahead , just ask some of those companies that paid for that worthless piece of paper from SCO , etc .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$500 !?!!!
Where did you get that figure from?
Everybody knows that linux costs $699...go ahead, just ask some of those companies that paid for that worthless piece of paper from SCO, etc.
:-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174734</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30178136</id>
	<title>If it will get you LINUX fanboys to finally shutup</title>
	<author>SpinningIntoNoFuture</author>
	<datestamp>1258714620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Then I'm all for it.  LINUS 4 NOBEL PEACE PRIZE IN '10!

Then I don't want to hear another peep outta you guys... seriously... shut up already.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then I 'm all for it .
LINUS 4 NOBEL PEACE PRIZE IN '10 !
Then I do n't want to hear another peep outta you guys... seriously... shut up already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then I'm all for it.
LINUS 4 NOBEL PEACE PRIZE IN '10!
Then I don't want to hear another peep outta you guys... seriously... shut up already.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173096</id>
	<title>Better than a terrorist....</title>
	<author>shanmoon</author>
	<datestamp>1258740540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Linus is certainly a better choice than a terrorist, like in 1994.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus is certainly a better choice than a terrorist , like in 1994 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus is certainly a better choice than a terrorist, like in 1994.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172998</id>
	<title>Maybe he does....</title>
	<author>jabjoe</author>
	<datestamp>1258740120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He did quite a bit of work, then gave it away because he thought it was best for his work and thought others would like to play with it. He puts the technology first above everything. He's not going to become insanely rich, but we as a global society should reward him in some way. Not sure peace price is right, but it's not wholly wrong either. Maybe not just him, but RMS for the creation of the GPL. I'm sure there are others. We should reward people who put progress/technology/people/freedom before themselves and wealth. If we don't, what does that say about us? Isn't that how we want people to behave?</htmltext>
<tokenext>He did quite a bit of work , then gave it away because he thought it was best for his work and thought others would like to play with it .
He puts the technology first above everything .
He 's not going to become insanely rich , but we as a global society should reward him in some way .
Not sure peace price is right , but it 's not wholly wrong either .
Maybe not just him , but RMS for the creation of the GPL .
I 'm sure there are others .
We should reward people who put progress/technology/people/freedom before themselves and wealth .
If we do n't , what does that say about us ?
Is n't that how we want people to behave ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He did quite a bit of work, then gave it away because he thought it was best for his work and thought others would like to play with it.
He puts the technology first above everything.
He's not going to become insanely rich, but we as a global society should reward him in some way.
Not sure peace price is right, but it's not wholly wrong either.
Maybe not just him, but RMS for the creation of the GPL.
I'm sure there are others.
We should reward people who put progress/technology/people/freedom before themselves and wealth.
If we don't, what does that say about us?
Isn't that how we want people to behave?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176920</id>
	<title>Re:Why not?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258710540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about they give him a nobel pizza price instead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about they give him a nobel pizza price instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about they give him a nobel pizza price instead.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172518</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30177616</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>The\_mad\_linguist</author>
	<datestamp>1258712760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So what?  <i>I</i> was Time magazine's man of the year as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So what ?
I was Time magazine 's man of the year as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what?
I was Time magazine's man of the year as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173524</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173770</id>
	<title>respect for nobel prize</title>
	<author>anonieuweling</author>
	<datestamp>1258743180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who has any respect for the Nobel prize thing after mr Obama got the prize?<br>
Anybody who takes a ral look at what he is doing sees that there is no real change, no real peace, and even more war stuff. (any columbian bases, anyone? iran? iraq? afghanistan? support for israel?)<br>
Not lessening his number of bases, war spending he makes a bad peace impression.<br>
<br>
Linus should refuse the prize.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who has any respect for the Nobel prize thing after mr Obama got the prize ?
Anybody who takes a ral look at what he is doing sees that there is no real change , no real peace , and even more war stuff .
( any columbian bases , anyone ?
iran ? iraq ?
afghanistan ? support for israel ?
) Not lessening his number of bases , war spending he makes a bad peace impression .
Linus should refuse the prize .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who has any respect for the Nobel prize thing after mr Obama got the prize?
Anybody who takes a ral look at what he is doing sees that there is no real change, no real peace, and even more war stuff.
(any columbian bases, anyone?
iran? iraq?
afghanistan? support for israel?
)
Not lessening his number of bases, war spending he makes a bad peace impression.
Linus should refuse the prize.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174798</id>
	<title>GNU/Linux</title>
	<author>smisle</author>
	<datestamp>1258746420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If this did go though, it would introduce all of the NPR folks to a concept they may never had considered before... 'Free' use of computers.</p><p>But, I think anyone who has heard both Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman both speak knows that Stallman is the heart behind the movement, and Linus is the one who constantly does that last bit and makes sure it actually works.</p><p>Really, they both deserve to get a peace prize, since neither of them would be where they are today without the other.  I would suggest that it be given to Stallman/Linus as an entity, rather than to either of them individually.  Then, Linus can drop Stallman's name off of his medal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If this did go though , it would introduce all of the NPR folks to a concept they may never had considered before... 'Free ' use of computers.But , I think anyone who has heard both Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman both speak knows that Stallman is the heart behind the movement , and Linus is the one who constantly does that last bit and makes sure it actually works.Really , they both deserve to get a peace prize , since neither of them would be where they are today without the other .
I would suggest that it be given to Stallman/Linus as an entity , rather than to either of them individually .
Then , Linus can drop Stallman 's name off of his medal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If this did go though, it would introduce all of the NPR folks to a concept they may never had considered before... 'Free' use of computers.But, I think anyone who has heard both Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman both speak knows that Stallman is the heart behind the movement, and Linus is the one who constantly does that last bit and makes sure it actually works.Really, they both deserve to get a peace prize, since neither of them would be where they are today without the other.
I would suggest that it be given to Stallman/Linus as an entity, rather than to either of them individually.
Then, Linus can drop Stallman's name off of his medal.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176948</id>
	<title>Re:Linux Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258710600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget the great paragon of peace, Yassir Arrafat.</p><p>Torvalds certainly deserves it more than any of the ones you named. Hell, my auto mechanic has achieved more towards world peace than they have.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget the great paragon of peace , Yassir Arrafat.Torvalds certainly deserves it more than any of the ones you named .
Hell , my auto mechanic has achieved more towards world peace than they have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget the great paragon of peace, Yassir Arrafat.Torvalds certainly deserves it more than any of the ones you named.
Hell, my auto mechanic has achieved more towards world peace than they have.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172922</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173190</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258740900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Torvalds is just the founder of Linux, which has been developed by countless people.  Also, Linux is just a kernel which is useless on its own without the rest of the operating system and software running on it.  Thus, it would be unfair to all the other free software devs if Torvalds got the prize.  If anyone, it should be Stallman, for writing the GPL, for starting the free software movement and spreading knowlege of the existence of free software and for explicitly backing a public cause, and basically dedicating his life to it.  In comparison, Torvalds is just an above average software engineer/project manager, who doesn't care about the public good so much as writing good code and getting the credit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Torvalds is just the founder of Linux , which has been developed by countless people .
Also , Linux is just a kernel which is useless on its own without the rest of the operating system and software running on it .
Thus , it would be unfair to all the other free software devs if Torvalds got the prize .
If anyone , it should be Stallman , for writing the GPL , for starting the free software movement and spreading knowlege of the existence of free software and for explicitly backing a public cause , and basically dedicating his life to it .
In comparison , Torvalds is just an above average software engineer/project manager , who does n't care about the public good so much as writing good code and getting the credit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Torvalds is just the founder of Linux, which has been developed by countless people.
Also, Linux is just a kernel which is useless on its own without the rest of the operating system and software running on it.
Thus, it would be unfair to all the other free software devs if Torvalds got the prize.
If anyone, it should be Stallman, for writing the GPL, for starting the free software movement and spreading knowlege of the existence of free software and for explicitly backing a public cause, and basically dedicating his life to it.
In comparison, Torvalds is just an above average software engineer/project manager, who doesn't care about the public good so much as writing good code and getting the credit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172504</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172938</id>
	<title>Re:Linux Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>c0d3g33k</author>
	<datestamp>1258739940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe you haven't lived long enough to realize the significance of Linux as a world-wide collaborative project on a scale capable of producing something as complex as an operating system kernel.  Less than 2 decades ago, a project like Linux was unheard of and essentially considered impossible.  Anything non-trivial required the resources of a government or a corporation and that was that.  What you now consider commonplace was a huge revelation when it began.  Linux is one of the first projects that showed the world what the internet makes possible.  Just about everything you now know as the FLOSS community happened because Linux set the example for what was possible.  That *is* real change.


Now, Linus was just in the right place at the right time and had the right personality to pull it off.  But releasing the kernel under the GPL to encourage participation was also a big factor, so I agree with the poster below that a co-nomination with Richard Stallman would be more appropriate.  I'll go so far as to suggest that Eric Raymond, Bruce Perens, Tim O'Reilly, Brian Behlendorf, Paul Vixie and Mitch Kapor belong in that group too.  Maybe even Eben Moglen.  In fact, considering the collaborative nature of free software, anything other than a group of key contributors would be incorrect and missing the point.

I seriously think the people mentioned above (and a bunch of contributors who quietly gave of their time) changed the world in a significant way, for the better.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe you have n't lived long enough to realize the significance of Linux as a world-wide collaborative project on a scale capable of producing something as complex as an operating system kernel .
Less than 2 decades ago , a project like Linux was unheard of and essentially considered impossible .
Anything non-trivial required the resources of a government or a corporation and that was that .
What you now consider commonplace was a huge revelation when it began .
Linux is one of the first projects that showed the world what the internet makes possible .
Just about everything you now know as the FLOSS community happened because Linux set the example for what was possible .
That * is * real change .
Now , Linus was just in the right place at the right time and had the right personality to pull it off .
But releasing the kernel under the GPL to encourage participation was also a big factor , so I agree with the poster below that a co-nomination with Richard Stallman would be more appropriate .
I 'll go so far as to suggest that Eric Raymond , Bruce Perens , Tim O'Reilly , Brian Behlendorf , Paul Vixie and Mitch Kapor belong in that group too .
Maybe even Eben Moglen .
In fact , considering the collaborative nature of free software , anything other than a group of key contributors would be incorrect and missing the point .
I seriously think the people mentioned above ( and a bunch of contributors who quietly gave of their time ) changed the world in a significant way , for the better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe you haven't lived long enough to realize the significance of Linux as a world-wide collaborative project on a scale capable of producing something as complex as an operating system kernel.
Less than 2 decades ago, a project like Linux was unheard of and essentially considered impossible.
Anything non-trivial required the resources of a government or a corporation and that was that.
What you now consider commonplace was a huge revelation when it began.
Linux is one of the first projects that showed the world what the internet makes possible.
Just about everything you now know as the FLOSS community happened because Linux set the example for what was possible.
That *is* real change.
Now, Linus was just in the right place at the right time and had the right personality to pull it off.
But releasing the kernel under the GPL to encourage participation was also a big factor, so I agree with the poster below that a co-nomination with Richard Stallman would be more appropriate.
I'll go so far as to suggest that Eric Raymond, Bruce Perens, Tim O'Reilly, Brian Behlendorf, Paul Vixie and Mitch Kapor belong in that group too.
Maybe even Eben Moglen.
In fact, considering the collaborative nature of free software, anything other than a group of key contributors would be incorrect and missing the point.
I seriously think the people mentioned above (and a bunch of contributors who quietly gave of their time) changed the world in a significant way, for the better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172666</id>
	<title>Yes!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258739100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Absolutely. Peace isn't merely politicians negotiating treaties, public-spirited volunteers planting trees, religious leaders preaching tolerance, or organisations raising money to save endangered species. Peace is an instrument towards achieving open-minded and open-hearted co&#246;peration amongst people from a wide variety of cultures, ethnicities and countries working towards creating solutions for the common welfare. If anyone deserves the Peace prize, Linus Torvalds probably does. Or perhaps the open-source movement, as a whole. Software may not be as visible as loud activists and marching protesters, but it has achieved the kind of collaboration amongst interested private individuals and companies that the environmental movement or any of various well-meaning political groups can only envy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Absolutely .
Peace is n't merely politicians negotiating treaties , public-spirited volunteers planting trees , religious leaders preaching tolerance , or organisations raising money to save endangered species .
Peace is an instrument towards achieving open-minded and open-hearted co   peration amongst people from a wide variety of cultures , ethnicities and countries working towards creating solutions for the common welfare .
If anyone deserves the Peace prize , Linus Torvalds probably does .
Or perhaps the open-source movement , as a whole .
Software may not be as visible as loud activists and marching protesters , but it has achieved the kind of collaboration amongst interested private individuals and companies that the environmental movement or any of various well-meaning political groups can only envy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Absolutely.
Peace isn't merely politicians negotiating treaties, public-spirited volunteers planting trees, religious leaders preaching tolerance, or organisations raising money to save endangered species.
Peace is an instrument towards achieving open-minded and open-hearted coöperation amongst people from a wide variety of cultures, ethnicities and countries working towards creating solutions for the common welfare.
If anyone deserves the Peace prize, Linus Torvalds probably does.
Or perhaps the open-source movement, as a whole.
Software may not be as visible as loud activists and marching protesters, but it has achieved the kind of collaboration amongst interested private individuals and companies that the environmental movement or any of various well-meaning political groups can only envy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174482</id>
	<title>Re:Linux Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1258745460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Why not? I mean, sure Torvalds isn't exactly a Ghandi (who ironically never got one, IIRC)...</i></p><p>I'll say. When asked to comment Linus said "They're smoking dope, but I'll take it anyway".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not ?
I mean , sure Torvalds is n't exactly a Ghandi ( who ironically never got one , IIRC ) ...I 'll say .
When asked to comment Linus said " They 're smoking dope , but I 'll take it anyway " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not?
I mean, sure Torvalds isn't exactly a Ghandi (who ironically never got one, IIRC)...I'll say.
When asked to comment Linus said "They're smoking dope, but I'll take it anyway".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176888</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258710480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you think the internet boom could have happened without Linux, you're crazy.  Before Linux, high volume TCP/IP stacks required $millions of Sun, IBM, SGI, DEC, or HP hardware and licenses.  It's still true that only businesses can afford commercial UNIX, and was even more true in the 90s.  The web as we know it would not exist without Linux and Apache.  It has been a global revolution, and Linus had a major hand in it.</p><p>I doubt it's worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize though, because for every Wikipedia or Facebook, there's a 4chan or fark.com.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you think the internet boom could have happened without Linux , you 're crazy .
Before Linux , high volume TCP/IP stacks required $ millions of Sun , IBM , SGI , DEC , or HP hardware and licenses .
It 's still true that only businesses can afford commercial UNIX , and was even more true in the 90s .
The web as we know it would not exist without Linux and Apache .
It has been a global revolution , and Linus had a major hand in it.I doubt it 's worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize though , because for every Wikipedia or Facebook , there 's a 4chan or fark.com .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you think the internet boom could have happened without Linux, you're crazy.
Before Linux, high volume TCP/IP stacks required $millions of Sun, IBM, SGI, DEC, or HP hardware and licenses.
It's still true that only businesses can afford commercial UNIX, and was even more true in the 90s.
The web as we know it would not exist without Linux and Apache.
It has been a global revolution, and Linus had a major hand in it.I doubt it's worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize though, because for every Wikipedia or Facebook, there's a 4chan or fark.com.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172912</id>
	<title>If Al Gore can get it</title>
	<author>Stumbles</author>
	<datestamp>1258739880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>then why not Linus. At least Linus did not write a book and omit a few inconvenient truths.</htmltext>
<tokenext>then why not Linus .
At least Linus did not write a book and omit a few inconvenient truths .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>then why not Linus.
At least Linus did not write a book and omit a few inconvenient truths.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172820</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258739580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since Obama got one for not being George W. Bush, Linus should get one for not being Theo de Raadt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since Obama got one for not being George W. Bush , Linus should get one for not being Theo de Raadt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since Obama got one for not being George W. Bush, Linus should get one for not being Theo de Raadt.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174070</id>
	<title>Linus?  "Peace"?  That twat?  LMAO!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258744200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>  Peace prize?  Do me a lemon!  Everywhere that pompous vanity-stricken self-obsessed arsehole posts, a massive flame war immediately breaks out, mostly because he's such a dick.  An advertisement for diplomacy and peaceful co-existence, he surely isn't.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; You should have seen him come barging into the gcc list the other day, ranting about why is the compiler aligning the stack in this function and oh your compiler is buggy and oh you're all so stupid and oh this and oh that... until it was pointed out to him that the compiler was aligning the sodding stack because his sodding code placed an aligned object on the sodding stack, then suddenly it was all about some tiny finicky details of the exact code sequence it was using to align the stack that weren't how he'd assumed them to be and how doing anything not the way he would expect is just stupid... what a wanker.  The only prize he deserves is 1st. place in the 100m backpedal!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Peace prize ?
Do me a lemon !
Everywhere that pompous vanity-stricken self-obsessed arsehole posts , a massive flame war immediately breaks out , mostly because he 's such a dick .
An advertisement for diplomacy and peaceful co-existence , he surely is n't .
    You should have seen him come barging into the gcc list the other day , ranting about why is the compiler aligning the stack in this function and oh your compiler is buggy and oh you 're all so stupid and oh this and oh that... until it was pointed out to him that the compiler was aligning the sodding stack because his sodding code placed an aligned object on the sodding stack , then suddenly it was all about some tiny finicky details of the exact code sequence it was using to align the stack that were n't how he 'd assumed them to be and how doing anything not the way he would expect is just stupid... what a wanker .
The only prize he deserves is 1st .
place in the 100m backpedal !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  Peace prize?
Do me a lemon!
Everywhere that pompous vanity-stricken self-obsessed arsehole posts, a massive flame war immediately breaks out, mostly because he's such a dick.
An advertisement for diplomacy and peaceful co-existence, he surely isn't.
    You should have seen him come barging into the gcc list the other day, ranting about why is the compiler aligning the stack in this function and oh your compiler is buggy and oh you're all so stupid and oh this and oh that... until it was pointed out to him that the compiler was aligning the sodding stack because his sodding code placed an aligned object on the sodding stack, then suddenly it was all about some tiny finicky details of the exact code sequence it was using to align the stack that weren't how he'd assumed them to be and how doing anything not the way he would expect is just stupid... what a wanker.
The only prize he deserves is 1st.
place in the 100m backpedal!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30224290</id>
	<title>Re:Bill Gates</title>
	<author>malus314</author>
	<datestamp>1257160680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, but I think IE6 is really gonna hurt his chances....<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>....just saying</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , but I think IE6 is really gon na hurt his chances.... ....just saying</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, but I think IE6 is really gonna hurt his chances.... ....just saying</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173114</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30178382</id>
	<title>Anyone can!</title>
	<author>Pix Pocketts</author>
	<datestamp>1258715460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hey.  If Obama can win it anyone can.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey .
If Obama can win it anyone can .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey.
If Obama can win it anyone can.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30175426</id>
	<title>Better qualified than the recent recipient</title>
	<author>Quila</author>
	<datestamp>1258748520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As opposed to the recent recipient, he would have actually done something positive in the world at the time of nomination, which is in line with the purpose of the Prize.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As opposed to the recent recipient , he would have actually done something positive in the world at the time of nomination , which is in line with the purpose of the Prize .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As opposed to the recent recipient, he would have actually done something positive in the world at the time of nomination, which is in line with the purpose of the Prize.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30195640</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>mr\_death</author>
	<datestamp>1258922340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Linus does rate high recognition, but it should be a better award than the "Peace" prize. Considering some of the previous winners -- Yassar Arafat, Barak "No Accomplishments" Obama and Al "No Controlling Legal Authority" Gore -- Linus deserves a better award than one given by extreme-left Norwegian politicians.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus does rate high recognition , but it should be a better award than the " Peace " prize .
Considering some of the previous winners -- Yassar Arafat , Barak " No Accomplishments " Obama and Al " No Controlling Legal Authority " Gore -- Linus deserves a better award than one given by extreme-left Norwegian politicians .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus does rate high recognition, but it should be a better award than the "Peace" prize.
Considering some of the previous winners -- Yassar Arafat, Barak "No Accomplishments" Obama and Al "No Controlling Legal Authority" Gore -- Linus deserves a better award than one given by extreme-left Norwegian politicians.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174680</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173142</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258740720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people all over the globe and made a project that has helped change the computer industry and lower costs, making computing more affordable for everyone. Sounds good to me.</p></div><p>So did Bill Gates.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people all over the globe and made a project that has helped change the computer industry and lower costs , making computing more affordable for everyone .
Sounds good to me.So did Bill Gates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people all over the globe and made a project that has helped change the computer industry and lower costs, making computing more affordable for everyone.
Sounds good to me.So did Bill Gates.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172762</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172922</id>
	<title>Re:Linux Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258739880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not? I mean, sure Torvalds isn't exactly a Ghandi (who ironically never got one, IIRC)...</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...but then again, look who else got one: Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Barack Obama - not as if these three gents had really done too much to earn it (okay, Carter brokered the Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement back in the 1970's which later fell apart, and did a lot of post-presidential negotiation work, but really... not much done by any of 'em - esp. compared to the likes of Martin Luther King Jr, FFS...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not ?
I mean , sure Torvalds is n't exactly a Ghandi ( who ironically never got one , IIRC ) ... ...but then again , look who else got one : Jimmy Carter , Al Gore , Barack Obama - not as if these three gents had really done too much to earn it ( okay , Carter brokered the Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement back in the 1970 's which later fell apart , and did a lot of post-presidential negotiation work , but really... not much done by any of 'em - esp .
compared to the likes of Martin Luther King Jr , FFS... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not?
I mean, sure Torvalds isn't exactly a Ghandi (who ironically never got one, IIRC)... ...but then again, look who else got one: Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Barack Obama - not as if these three gents had really done too much to earn it (okay, Carter brokered the Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement back in the 1970's which later fell apart, and did a lot of post-presidential negotiation work, but really... not much done by any of 'em - esp.
compared to the likes of Martin Luther King Jr, FFS...)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173552</id>
	<title>You Have No Clue About The Nobel Peace Prize</title>
	<author>andersh</author>
	<datestamp>1258742280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Nobel Peace Prize is not "political" in the sense that you mean.</p><p>Are you American? I can understand if you think it is, but it's not always about you and certainly not about *your* politics.</p><p>How would you even know? The Norwegian politicians that decide have NEVER talked about their motives for choosing this or that. The choice is made according to the will of Alfred Nobel [and that was recently proven by auditors].</p><p>And your claim that you "doubt" anything is laughable, you don't know squat about the people that make the decision!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Nobel Peace Prize is not " political " in the sense that you mean.Are you American ?
I can understand if you think it is , but it 's not always about you and certainly not about * your * politics.How would you even know ?
The Norwegian politicians that decide have NEVER talked about their motives for choosing this or that .
The choice is made according to the will of Alfred Nobel [ and that was recently proven by auditors ] .And your claim that you " doubt " anything is laughable , you do n't know squat about the people that make the decision !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Nobel Peace Prize is not "political" in the sense that you mean.Are you American?
I can understand if you think it is, but it's not always about you and certainly not about *your* politics.How would you even know?
The Norwegian politicians that decide have NEVER talked about their motives for choosing this or that.
The choice is made according to the will of Alfred Nobel [and that was recently proven by auditors].And your claim that you "doubt" anything is laughable, you don't know squat about the people that make the decision!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172762</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173058</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258740420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Since Obama got one for not being George W. Bush, Linus should get one for not being Theo de Raadt.</p></div></blockquote><p>
And we could give one to Hans Reiser for not being O.J. Simpson.  Oh, wait a sec<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...
</p><p>
How about giving it to both RMS <b>and</b> Linus?
</p><p>
Or for the lulz, Stallman and Palin.  Can you imagine the two of them in the same room?  The improbability is SO high that the universe might finally have to hork up a Higgs Bosun.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since Obama got one for not being George W. Bush , Linus should get one for not being Theo de Raadt .
And we could give one to Hans Reiser for not being O.J .
Simpson. Oh , wait a sec .. . How about giving it to both RMS and Linus ?
Or for the lulz , Stallman and Palin .
Can you imagine the two of them in the same room ?
The improbability is SO high that the universe might finally have to hork up a Higgs Bosun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since Obama got one for not being George W. Bush, Linus should get one for not being Theo de Raadt.
And we could give one to Hans Reiser for not being O.J.
Simpson.  Oh, wait a sec ...

How about giving it to both RMS and Linus?
Or for the lulz, Stallman and Palin.
Can you imagine the two of them in the same room?
The improbability is SO high that the universe might finally have to hork up a Higgs Bosun.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174964</id>
	<title>Re:Why not?</title>
	<author>jim\_v2000</author>
	<datestamp>1258747020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Peace prize?  Do you know how many flamewars have taken place across the internet among the various Linux tribes?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Peace prize ?
Do you know how many flamewars have taken place across the internet among the various Linux tribes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Peace prize?
Do you know how many flamewars have taken place across the internet among the various Linux tribes?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173166</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176030</id>
	<title>Re:Linux Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>GasparGMSwordsman</author>
	<datestamp>1258750680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>President Carter helped broker NUMEROUS peace treaties, championed Habitat for Humanity, founded the Carter Center and championed scores of social issues.</p><p>Former Vice President Al Gore has become one of the worlds leaders on environmental issues.</p><p>I don't really have a comment on if Former Vice President Gore, or President Obama should have been awarded the prize.  However, please point to anyone who has done more for the cause of world peace than President Carter.  Please inform me who has done more for the poor and downtrodden around the world than he?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>President Carter helped broker NUMEROUS peace treaties , championed Habitat for Humanity , founded the Carter Center and championed scores of social issues.Former Vice President Al Gore has become one of the worlds leaders on environmental issues.I do n't really have a comment on if Former Vice President Gore , or President Obama should have been awarded the prize .
However , please point to anyone who has done more for the cause of world peace than President Carter .
Please inform me who has done more for the poor and downtrodden around the world than he ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>President Carter helped broker NUMEROUS peace treaties, championed Habitat for Humanity, founded the Carter Center and championed scores of social issues.Former Vice President Al Gore has become one of the worlds leaders on environmental issues.I don't really have a comment on if Former Vice President Gore, or President Obama should have been awarded the prize.
However, please point to anyone who has done more for the cause of world peace than President Carter.
Please inform me who has done more for the poor and downtrodden around the world than he?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173166</id>
	<title>Re:Why not?</title>
	<author>cayenne8</author>
	<datestamp>1258740840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Linux would definitely be more deserving of a Nobel Peace Prize that a couple of the last recipients that come to mind....<p>
He actually has put something tangible together, and overseen it for years, as opposed to someone nominated recently before he had even done anything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux would definitely be more deserving of a Nobel Peace Prize that a couple of the last recipients that come to mind... . He actually has put something tangible together , and overseen it for years , as opposed to someone nominated recently before he had even done anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux would definitely be more deserving of a Nobel Peace Prize that a couple of the last recipients that come to mind....
He actually has put something tangible together, and overseen it for years, as opposed to someone nominated recently before he had even done anything.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172518</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173422</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>plj</author>
	<datestamp>1258741740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not only that, but I guess Linus is still a Finnish citizen (despite now living in Oregon), and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martti\_Ahtisaari" title="wikipedia.org">a former President of Finland</a> [wikipedia.org] was given the Peace Prize just a year ago.</p><p>I think it would be quite unprecedented to reward another Finn anytime soon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only that , but I guess Linus is still a Finnish citizen ( despite now living in Oregon ) , and a former President of Finland [ wikipedia.org ] was given the Peace Prize just a year ago.I think it would be quite unprecedented to reward another Finn anytime soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only that, but I guess Linus is still a Finnish citizen (despite now living in Oregon), and a former President of Finland [wikipedia.org] was given the Peace Prize just a year ago.I think it would be quite unprecedented to reward another Finn anytime soon.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172532</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30281008</id>
	<title>Re: he deserves it</title>
	<author>damaged\_sectors</author>
	<datestamp>1259664540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For managing such a large and ongoing project. Can anyone tell me a larger or more distributed project?? It's not like it's all been plain sailing for him either (SCO).</htmltext>
<tokenext>For managing such a large and ongoing project .
Can anyone tell me a larger or more distributed project ? ?
It 's not like it 's all been plain sailing for him either ( SCO ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For managing such a large and ongoing project.
Can anyone tell me a larger or more distributed project??
It's not like it's all been plain sailing for him either (SCO).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30300430</id>
	<title>LOL WUT</title>
	<author>seansobes</author>
	<datestamp>1259610960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>why the hell is linus getting nominated? the real nerds know exactly what i mean. what about stallman? i wouldnt even mind if they gave it to shuttleworth.</htmltext>
<tokenext>why the hell is linus getting nominated ?
the real nerds know exactly what i mean .
what about stallman ?
i wouldnt even mind if they gave it to shuttleworth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why the hell is linus getting nominated?
the real nerds know exactly what i mean.
what about stallman?
i wouldnt even mind if they gave it to shuttleworth.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172596</id>
	<title>Simple answer...</title>
	<author>Shrike82</author>
	<datestamp>1258738920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Is it worthy of wider attention and discussion?</p></div><p>No. Next question?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it worthy of wider attention and discussion ? No .
Next question ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it worthy of wider attention and discussion?No.
Next question?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30177530</id>
	<title>Not to mince words, but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258712460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Stop wasting your time with this shit. Just do you always do: get together in groups of ISV/sponsors/LUGs, make up new awards, and hand them out to each other and backslap each other a month out of every year, and go home. A "peace prize" wet dream overture is just some sort of desperate, vicarious and needy attempt at validation among people who don't care that you spend your time writing "open" code. That's some potent drugs you need to be on to honest project upon yourself such delusions of grandeur as to believe you're FIGHTING FOR WORLD PEACE by participating in a shared coding project to run your computer (typically for illegally sharing high budget movies, music, pornography, games, and engaging in social working operas of self indulging trivialities). Torvalds doesn't even have an strict and otherwise principled, defensible ideology to try rationalize such an award. At least Stallman has his Freedom agenda to point to for brain damaged, adoring supporters of his to dream about. Even Bill Gates gave billions to fight world disease. But no, we all like and use Linux, and Torvalds is more clean and less unlikeable than Stallman, and most of all, he's from Europe! Let's stroke each others' braincocks at the idea!</p><p>Less awards stupidity, more coding. You fucking morons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Stop wasting your time with this shit .
Just do you always do : get together in groups of ISV/sponsors/LUGs , make up new awards , and hand them out to each other and backslap each other a month out of every year , and go home .
A " peace prize " wet dream overture is just some sort of desperate , vicarious and needy attempt at validation among people who do n't care that you spend your time writing " open " code .
That 's some potent drugs you need to be on to honest project upon yourself such delusions of grandeur as to believe you 're FIGHTING FOR WORLD PEACE by participating in a shared coding project to run your computer ( typically for illegally sharing high budget movies , music , pornography , games , and engaging in social working operas of self indulging trivialities ) .
Torvalds does n't even have an strict and otherwise principled , defensible ideology to try rationalize such an award .
At least Stallman has his Freedom agenda to point to for brain damaged , adoring supporters of his to dream about .
Even Bill Gates gave billions to fight world disease .
But no , we all like and use Linux , and Torvalds is more clean and less unlikeable than Stallman , and most of all , he 's from Europe !
Let 's stroke each others ' braincocks at the idea ! Less awards stupidity , more coding .
You fucking morons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stop wasting your time with this shit.
Just do you always do: get together in groups of ISV/sponsors/LUGs, make up new awards, and hand them out to each other and backslap each other a month out of every year, and go home.
A "peace prize" wet dream overture is just some sort of desperate, vicarious and needy attempt at validation among people who don't care that you spend your time writing "open" code.
That's some potent drugs you need to be on to honest project upon yourself such delusions of grandeur as to believe you're FIGHTING FOR WORLD PEACE by participating in a shared coding project to run your computer (typically for illegally sharing high budget movies, music, pornography, games, and engaging in social working operas of self indulging trivialities).
Torvalds doesn't even have an strict and otherwise principled, defensible ideology to try rationalize such an award.
At least Stallman has his Freedom agenda to point to for brain damaged, adoring supporters of his to dream about.
Even Bill Gates gave billions to fight world disease.
But no, we all like and use Linux, and Torvalds is more clean and less unlikeable than Stallman, and most of all, he's from Europe!
Let's stroke each others' braincocks at the idea!Less awards stupidity, more coding.
You fucking morons.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30180806</id>
	<title>Re:Why not?</title>
	<author>Demonantis</author>
	<datestamp>1258727760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suspect your talking about Obama so I thought I would give you a neat <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/02/us/politics/02obama.html" title="nytimes.com"> read </a> [nytimes.com](make sure to check the date). I don't know about you but I think that anyone that works that hard for dismantling nuclear weapons is doing something deserving a peace prize. I don't blame you though I had to read it in a university news paper to know about it. Mainstream journalism really dropped the ball reporting the truth. Although about Linus how has he helped promote humanitarian efforts and world peace? I'm not sure. I simply don't know enough about the guy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect your talking about Obama so I thought I would give you a neat read [ nytimes.com ] ( make sure to check the date ) .
I do n't know about you but I think that anyone that works that hard for dismantling nuclear weapons is doing something deserving a peace prize .
I do n't blame you though I had to read it in a university news paper to know about it .
Mainstream journalism really dropped the ball reporting the truth .
Although about Linus how has he helped promote humanitarian efforts and world peace ?
I 'm not sure .
I simply do n't know enough about the guy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect your talking about Obama so I thought I would give you a neat  read  [nytimes.com](make sure to check the date).
I don't know about you but I think that anyone that works that hard for dismantling nuclear weapons is doing something deserving a peace prize.
I don't blame you though I had to read it in a university news paper to know about it.
Mainstream journalism really dropped the ball reporting the truth.
Although about Linus how has he helped promote humanitarian efforts and world peace?
I'm not sure.
I simply don't know enough about the guy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30179748</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258721460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Torvalds is just an above average software engineer/project manager, <strong>who doesn't care about the public good</strong> so much as writing good code and getting the credit.</p></div><p>    Who is the public? What does it hold as its good? There was a time when<br>men believed that the good' was a concept to be defined by a code of moral<br>values and that no man had the right to seek his good through the violation<br>of the rights of another.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Torvalds is just an above average software engineer/project manager , who does n't care about the public good so much as writing good code and getting the credit .
Who is the public ?
What does it hold as its good ?
There was a time whenmen believed that the good ' was a concept to be defined by a code of moralvalues and that no man had the right to seek his good through the violationof the rights of another .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Torvalds is just an above average software engineer/project manager, who doesn't care about the public good so much as writing good code and getting the credit.
Who is the public?
What does it hold as its good?
There was a time whenmen believed that the good' was a concept to be defined by a code of moralvalues and that no man had the right to seek his good through the violationof the rights of another.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174734</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>ObsessiveMathsFreak</author>
	<datestamp>1258746240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>That is the point. Stallman founded a religion, and Torvalds gave us a tool.</p></div></blockquote><p>No. It was Stallman who gave us the tool; the GPL. This licence is the magic ingredient that makes open source software possible. Without it, without Stallman's contribution, we'd still be stuck with mostly BSD style licences. Private companies would be mooching off and appropriating the work of FOSS programmers, people would be cynical about writing software for nothing, and we wouldn't have a fraction of the fantastic array of software we all have running on our desktops, including the Linux kernel.</p><p>We'd all be paying $500 per operating system, and our program suites would mostly consist of massively duplicated pay to use, single function programs or else expensively licensed monolithic program suites like MS Office. Programs provided by private companies with lots of scope to monopolise, little incentive to innovate, and with general contempt for their users. Ask yourself, how would you encode a CD in windows, how would you compile a program, what email client would you use if you couldn't use open source software?</p><p>This is what Richard Stallman rescued us from. Restrictive, expensive, bug ridden and often vindictive closed source software. Perhaps you do not like stances. That's fine. But you had best acknowledge that the reason you have a modern web browser to read this site with is largely down to the efforts he made probably before you were even born.</p></div>
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<tokenext>That is the point .
Stallman founded a religion , and Torvalds gave us a tool.No .
It was Stallman who gave us the tool ; the GPL .
This licence is the magic ingredient that makes open source software possible .
Without it , without Stallman 's contribution , we 'd still be stuck with mostly BSD style licences .
Private companies would be mooching off and appropriating the work of FOSS programmers , people would be cynical about writing software for nothing , and we would n't have a fraction of the fantastic array of software we all have running on our desktops , including the Linux kernel.We 'd all be paying $ 500 per operating system , and our program suites would mostly consist of massively duplicated pay to use , single function programs or else expensively licensed monolithic program suites like MS Office .
Programs provided by private companies with lots of scope to monopolise , little incentive to innovate , and with general contempt for their users .
Ask yourself , how would you encode a CD in windows , how would you compile a program , what email client would you use if you could n't use open source software ? This is what Richard Stallman rescued us from .
Restrictive , expensive , bug ridden and often vindictive closed source software .
Perhaps you do not like stances .
That 's fine .
But you had best acknowledge that the reason you have a modern web browser to read this site with is largely down to the efforts he made probably before you were even born .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is the point.
Stallman founded a religion, and Torvalds gave us a tool.No.
It was Stallman who gave us the tool; the GPL.
This licence is the magic ingredient that makes open source software possible.
Without it, without Stallman's contribution, we'd still be stuck with mostly BSD style licences.
Private companies would be mooching off and appropriating the work of FOSS programmers, people would be cynical about writing software for nothing, and we wouldn't have a fraction of the fantastic array of software we all have running on our desktops, including the Linux kernel.We'd all be paying $500 per operating system, and our program suites would mostly consist of massively duplicated pay to use, single function programs or else expensively licensed monolithic program suites like MS Office.
Programs provided by private companies with lots of scope to monopolise, little incentive to innovate, and with general contempt for their users.
Ask yourself, how would you encode a CD in windows, how would you compile a program, what email client would you use if you couldn't use open source software?This is what Richard Stallman rescued us from.
Restrictive, expensive, bug ridden and often vindictive closed source software.
Perhaps you do not like stances.
That's fine.
But you had best acknowledge that the reason you have a modern web browser to read this site with is largely down to the efforts he made probably before you were even born.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174110</id>
	<title>Re:Linux Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>yossarianuk</author>
	<datestamp>1258744320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Without Linux the internet would be a very different place today.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Without Linux the internet would be a very different place today .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Without Linux the internet would be a very different place today.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172906</id>
	<title>Can we stop with the Obama comparisons?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258739820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
The Obama peace prize meme is really annoying. I don't think it was a great idea to give the prize to him but it the idea that we don't give nobel peace prizes to people to encourage/support/recognize potential work is just wrong.  For example, the 1935 prize went to Carl von Ossietsky for his journalism and peace activism against the Nazis. He had at that point done very little to stop the Nazis. And we all know how well he actually succeeded. Not at all. But that prize was completely reasonable. There's a long history of giving the prizes to people who promise future work.
</p><p>
Moreover, Obama's win was a real accomplishment as the first black US President. Also as a matter of international peace having a US President who doesn't think that bombing everything is a solution and doesn't go to war due to Biblical verses, yeah that's a good thing. So even if accomplishments were necessary Obama had them.
</p><p> Finally, Torvalds has real accomplishments. The success of Linux has helped poorer countries who would have trouble affording closed source projects (not as much as we'd like but it has certainly helped). Moreover, his work has helped inspire the open source movement in general in ways that have really helped a lot. If not for his work, Lessig would likely never have been inspired to make the Creative Commons for example. I could reasonably see a joint peace prize for Torvalds, Lessig and Stallman.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Obama peace prize meme is really annoying .
I do n't think it was a great idea to give the prize to him but it the idea that we do n't give nobel peace prizes to people to encourage/support/recognize potential work is just wrong .
For example , the 1935 prize went to Carl von Ossietsky for his journalism and peace activism against the Nazis .
He had at that point done very little to stop the Nazis .
And we all know how well he actually succeeded .
Not at all .
But that prize was completely reasonable .
There 's a long history of giving the prizes to people who promise future work .
Moreover , Obama 's win was a real accomplishment as the first black US President .
Also as a matter of international peace having a US President who does n't think that bombing everything is a solution and does n't go to war due to Biblical verses , yeah that 's a good thing .
So even if accomplishments were necessary Obama had them .
Finally , Torvalds has real accomplishments .
The success of Linux has helped poorer countries who would have trouble affording closed source projects ( not as much as we 'd like but it has certainly helped ) .
Moreover , his work has helped inspire the open source movement in general in ways that have really helped a lot .
If not for his work , Lessig would likely never have been inspired to make the Creative Commons for example .
I could reasonably see a joint peace prize for Torvalds , Lessig and Stallman .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
The Obama peace prize meme is really annoying.
I don't think it was a great idea to give the prize to him but it the idea that we don't give nobel peace prizes to people to encourage/support/recognize potential work is just wrong.
For example, the 1935 prize went to Carl von Ossietsky for his journalism and peace activism against the Nazis.
He had at that point done very little to stop the Nazis.
And we all know how well he actually succeeded.
Not at all.
But that prize was completely reasonable.
There's a long history of giving the prizes to people who promise future work.
Moreover, Obama's win was a real accomplishment as the first black US President.
Also as a matter of international peace having a US President who doesn't think that bombing everything is a solution and doesn't go to war due to Biblical verses, yeah that's a good thing.
So even if accomplishments were necessary Obama had them.
Finally, Torvalds has real accomplishments.
The success of Linux has helped poorer countries who would have trouble affording closed source projects (not as much as we'd like but it has certainly helped).
Moreover, his work has helped inspire the open source movement in general in ways that have really helped a lot.
If not for his work, Lessig would likely never have been inspired to make the Creative Commons for example.
I could reasonably see a joint peace prize for Torvalds, Lessig and Stallman.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174304</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>erko</author>
	<datestamp>1258744860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That is the point.  Stallman founded a religion, and Torvalds gave us a tool.</p></div><p>
Really?  Maybe you aren't aware of the tools Stallman wrote?  Stallman wrote the first versions of gcc, gdb, emacs, etc.<br>
So if you still want to oversimplify it, this is more accurate: Stallman created tools and created open source.  Torvalds created a tool.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That is the point .
Stallman founded a religion , and Torvalds gave us a tool .
Really ? Maybe you are n't aware of the tools Stallman wrote ?
Stallman wrote the first versions of gcc , gdb , emacs , etc .
So if you still want to oversimplify it , this is more accurate : Stallman created tools and created open source .
Torvalds created a tool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is the point.
Stallman founded a religion, and Torvalds gave us a tool.
Really?  Maybe you aren't aware of the tools Stallman wrote?
Stallman wrote the first versions of gcc, gdb, emacs, etc.
So if you still want to oversimplify it, this is more accurate: Stallman created tools and created open source.
Torvalds created a tool.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30179356</id>
	<title>Re:That's GNU/Linux, you insensitive clod!</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1258719540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He'd refuse it because the price is closely controlled by the Nobel committee, and ordinary people cannot give it to anyone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He 'd refuse it because the price is closely controlled by the Nobel committee , and ordinary people can not give it to anyone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He'd refuse it because the price is closely controlled by the Nobel committee, and ordinary people cannot give it to anyone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173776</id>
	<title>I'd say he's done at least as much for world peace</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258743180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As President Obama.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As President Obama .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As President Obama.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173196</id>
	<title>Re:Can we stop with the Obama comparisons?</title>
	<author>Attila Dimedici</author>
	<datestamp>1258740900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>
The Obama peace prize meme is really annoying. I don't think it was a great idea to give the prize to him but it the idea that we don't give nobel peace prizes to people to encourage/support/recognize potential work is just wrong.  For example, the 1935 prize went to Carl von Ossietsky for his journalism and peace activism against the Nazis. He had at that point done very little to stop the Nazis. And we all know how well he actually succeeded. Not at all. But that prize was completely reasonable. There's a long history of giving the prizes to people who promise future work.
</p></div><p>Carl von Ossietsky did not receive the peace prize for "potential work". he received the prize for the work he had done publicizing the German violations of the Treaty of Versailles and for speaking out against the Nazi Party. He received the prize for actions he had already taken, even if such actions had been ineffective. Please try again to provide an example of someone (other than Obama) who received the Nobel Peace Prize for actions they had promised to take at some indefinite time in the future.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Obama peace prize meme is really annoying .
I do n't think it was a great idea to give the prize to him but it the idea that we do n't give nobel peace prizes to people to encourage/support/recognize potential work is just wrong .
For example , the 1935 prize went to Carl von Ossietsky for his journalism and peace activism against the Nazis .
He had at that point done very little to stop the Nazis .
And we all know how well he actually succeeded .
Not at all .
But that prize was completely reasonable .
There 's a long history of giving the prizes to people who promise future work .
Carl von Ossietsky did not receive the peace prize for " potential work " .
he received the prize for the work he had done publicizing the German violations of the Treaty of Versailles and for speaking out against the Nazi Party .
He received the prize for actions he had already taken , even if such actions had been ineffective .
Please try again to provide an example of someone ( other than Obama ) who received the Nobel Peace Prize for actions they had promised to take at some indefinite time in the future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
The Obama peace prize meme is really annoying.
I don't think it was a great idea to give the prize to him but it the idea that we don't give nobel peace prizes to people to encourage/support/recognize potential work is just wrong.
For example, the 1935 prize went to Carl von Ossietsky for his journalism and peace activism against the Nazis.
He had at that point done very little to stop the Nazis.
And we all know how well he actually succeeded.
Not at all.
But that prize was completely reasonable.
There's a long history of giving the prizes to people who promise future work.
Carl von Ossietsky did not receive the peace prize for "potential work".
he received the prize for the work he had done publicizing the German violations of the Treaty of Versailles and for speaking out against the Nazi Party.
He received the prize for actions he had already taken, even if such actions had been ineffective.
Please try again to provide an example of someone (other than Obama) who received the Nobel Peace Prize for actions they had promised to take at some indefinite time in the future.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176086</id>
	<title>Re:Not a Campaigned Award</title>
	<author>dargaud</author>
	<datestamp>1258707660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You're free to talk all you want but it's not going to change anything. Discussing it online is nothing but a waste of time unless your intentions are to embarrass Linus.</p></div><p>Well, I certainly hope that my various posts and talks <b>against</b> Diana whatever contributed somehow to her not getting it. Everybody likes <a href="http://www.gdargaud.net/Antarctica/Animals.html" title="gdargaud.net">baby seals</a> [gdargaud.net] and nobody likes land mines, but being a rich idiot bitch princess who likes the former and not the latter doesn't entitle her to the prize. I remember getting into a rabbid frenzy whenever I heard idiots discussing her chances at the time. Well, this being said I still think the Obama prize is some kind of joke and I'm waiting for the punchline. Linus deserves it more than anybody I can think of.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're free to talk all you want but it 's not going to change anything .
Discussing it online is nothing but a waste of time unless your intentions are to embarrass Linus.Well , I certainly hope that my various posts and talks against Diana whatever contributed somehow to her not getting it .
Everybody likes baby seals [ gdargaud.net ] and nobody likes land mines , but being a rich idiot bitch princess who likes the former and not the latter does n't entitle her to the prize .
I remember getting into a rabbid frenzy whenever I heard idiots discussing her chances at the time .
Well , this being said I still think the Obama prize is some kind of joke and I 'm waiting for the punchline .
Linus deserves it more than anybody I can think of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're free to talk all you want but it's not going to change anything.
Discussing it online is nothing but a waste of time unless your intentions are to embarrass Linus.Well, I certainly hope that my various posts and talks against Diana whatever contributed somehow to her not getting it.
Everybody likes baby seals [gdargaud.net] and nobody likes land mines, but being a rich idiot bitch princess who likes the former and not the latter doesn't entitle her to the prize.
I remember getting into a rabbid frenzy whenever I heard idiots discussing her chances at the time.
Well, this being said I still think the Obama prize is some kind of joke and I'm waiting for the punchline.
Linus deserves it more than anybody I can think of.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173580</id>
	<title>Re:That's GNU/Linux, you insensitive clod!</title>
	<author>Maximum Prophet</author>
	<datestamp>1258742400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Arguably it was RMS that did the most to create FOSS. Linus created a freely available kernel (not the first). RMS created a text editor and a compiler. (not the first either). What RMS did was create a framework that allowed people to share their work, the GPL. RMS convinced Linus to use this framework.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Arguably it was RMS that did the most to create FOSS .
Linus created a freely available kernel ( not the first ) .
RMS created a text editor and a compiler .
( not the first either ) .
What RMS did was create a framework that allowed people to share their work , the GPL .
RMS convinced Linus to use this framework .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Arguably it was RMS that did the most to create FOSS.
Linus created a freely available kernel (not the first).
RMS created a text editor and a compiler.
(not the first either).
What RMS did was create a framework that allowed people to share their work, the GPL.
RMS convinced Linus to use this framework.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30175038</id>
	<title>He saved the lives of a lot of people at Microsoft</title>
	<author>Maltheus</author>
	<datestamp>1258747260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because if I didn't have a viable alternative to Windows, sooner or later, I would have headed to Seattle and gone postal on the Redmond campus.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because if I did n't have a viable alternative to Windows , sooner or later , I would have headed to Seattle and gone postal on the Redmond campus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because if I didn't have a viable alternative to Windows, sooner or later, I would have headed to Seattle and gone postal on the Redmond campus.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30188644</id>
	<title>Is cooperation the model to emulate?</title>
	<author>danielpauldavis</author>
	<datestamp>1258803600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It'd be a darn sight better than newbies such as President Obama or terrorists such as Yasser Arafat . . . which is why it'll never happen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 'd be a darn sight better than newbies such as President Obama or terrorists such as Yasser Arafat .
. .
which is why it 'll never happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It'd be a darn sight better than newbies such as President Obama or terrorists such as Yasser Arafat .
. .
which is why it'll never happen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176412</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>fishexe</author>
	<datestamp>1258708800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people all over the globe and made a project that has helped change the computer industry and lower costs, making computing more affordable for everyone. Sounds good to me....While some are obviously good (Doctors Without Borders, The Dalai Llama) others are much more questionable.</p></div><p>
Well, if Doctors Without Borders is such a clear winner, doesn't that make a guy whose contribution is along the lines of Computers Without Borders a natural contender?  In an age where people are decrying foreign aid for third world countries because it doesn't produce long-term stability or growth, and insisting these places need investment and education rather than handouts, doesn't making a strong, stable computer OS available to all count as a grand contribution?  I agree with what you're saying, but I would state the case more strongly.  The Linux project (along with GNU) has been a tremendous contribution to international peace and welfare.

Personally I would nominate Stallman for GNU, Linus for Linux, and Shuttleworth for shifting the focus to usability/accessibility and incorporating humanistic values into the distribution (to share the prize between the three of them) but that's just me.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people all over the globe and made a project that has helped change the computer industry and lower costs , making computing more affordable for everyone .
Sounds good to me....While some are obviously good ( Doctors Without Borders , The Dalai Llama ) others are much more questionable .
Well , if Doctors Without Borders is such a clear winner , does n't that make a guy whose contribution is along the lines of Computers Without Borders a natural contender ?
In an age where people are decrying foreign aid for third world countries because it does n't produce long-term stability or growth , and insisting these places need investment and education rather than handouts , does n't making a strong , stable computer OS available to all count as a grand contribution ?
I agree with what you 're saying , but I would state the case more strongly .
The Linux project ( along with GNU ) has been a tremendous contribution to international peace and welfare .
Personally I would nominate Stallman for GNU , Linus for Linux , and Shuttleworth for shifting the focus to usability/accessibility and incorporating humanistic values into the distribution ( to share the prize between the three of them ) but that 's just me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He created a multinational project of cooperation between tons of people all over the globe and made a project that has helped change the computer industry and lower costs, making computing more affordable for everyone.
Sounds good to me....While some are obviously good (Doctors Without Borders, The Dalai Llama) others are much more questionable.
Well, if Doctors Without Borders is such a clear winner, doesn't that make a guy whose contribution is along the lines of Computers Without Borders a natural contender?
In an age where people are decrying foreign aid for third world countries because it doesn't produce long-term stability or growth, and insisting these places need investment and education rather than handouts, doesn't making a strong, stable computer OS available to all count as a grand contribution?
I agree with what you're saying, but I would state the case more strongly.
The Linux project (along with GNU) has been a tremendous contribution to international peace and welfare.
Personally I would nominate Stallman for GNU, Linus for Linux, and Shuttleworth for shifting the focus to usability/accessibility and incorporating humanistic values into the distribution (to share the prize between the three of them) but that's just me.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30181364</id>
	<title>After Al Gore and Obama...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258732260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... who gives a crap about the Nobel Peace Prize. If they keep awarding Nobel prizes like this, it will end up discrediting the scientific Nobel prizes, which are still relevant for the time being.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... who gives a crap about the Nobel Peace Prize .
If they keep awarding Nobel prizes like this , it will end up discrediting the scientific Nobel prizes , which are still relevant for the time being .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... who gives a crap about the Nobel Peace Prize.
If they keep awarding Nobel prizes like this, it will end up discrediting the scientific Nobel prizes, which are still relevant for the time being.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173002</id>
	<title>He deserves it more than Obama did</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258740120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linus deserves the Nobel Peace Prize more than Obama did.  Linus has actually accomplished something, and has been uniting global communities for years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus deserves the Nobel Peace Prize more than Obama did .
Linus has actually accomplished something , and has been uniting global communities for years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus deserves the Nobel Peace Prize more than Obama did.
Linus has actually accomplished something, and has been uniting global communities for years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30249718</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>wild\_berry</author>
	<datestamp>1259320500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Stallman's peace prize is already done -- but release manager <tt>rms</tt> refuses to make a formal release until his personal changes to the award are complete.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Stallman 's peace prize is already done -- but release manager rms refuses to make a formal release until his personal changes to the award are complete .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stallman's peace prize is already done -- but release manager rms refuses to make a formal release until his personal changes to the award are complete.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172722</id>
	<title>In a word:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258739280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173590</id>
	<title>Free Software Foundation would have a fit</title>
	<author>Kagato</author>
	<datestamp>1258742400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think if they tried to do it RSM would have a fit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think if they tried to do it RSM would have a fit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think if they tried to do it RSM would have a fit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173180</id>
	<title>Just wonder..</title>
	<author>Mr\_Miagi</author>
	<datestamp>1258740900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If he actually <i>did</i> win the prize, wouldn't there be strife if they mis-pronounced his <a href="http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/torvalds-says-linux.wav" title="sladen.org" rel="nofollow">name</a> [sladen.org]?</htmltext>
<tokenext>If he actually did win the prize , would n't there be strife if they mis-pronounced his name [ sladen.org ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If he actually did win the prize, wouldn't there be strife if they mis-pronounced his name [sladen.org]?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174428</id>
	<title>forget the Nobel</title>
	<author>mieses</author>
	<datestamp>1258745340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who cares about the Nobel Peace Prize?  Would Linus feel honored or embarrassed to be in that company?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who cares about the Nobel Peace Prize ?
Would Linus feel honored or embarrassed to be in that company ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who cares about the Nobel Peace Prize?
Would Linus feel honored or embarrassed to be in that company?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172544</id>
	<title>Linux Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258738800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are real people making real change on this planet. While I like Linux as much as the next guy, this is not going to happen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are real people making real change on this planet .
While I like Linux as much as the next guy , this is not going to happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are real people making real change on this planet.
While I like Linux as much as the next guy, this is not going to happen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173968</id>
	<title>Nobel prize for computer science.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258743840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They have one for literature. Software is better then literature. Common admit it, way better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They have one for literature .
Software is better then literature .
Common admit it , way better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They have one for literature.
Software is better then literature.
Common admit it, way better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30189886</id>
	<title>Re:Linux Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>quantaman</author>
	<datestamp>1258813320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why not? I mean, sure Torvalds isn't exactly a Ghandi (who ironically never got one, IIRC)...</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...but then again, look who else got one: Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Barack Obama - not as if these three gents had really done too much to earn it (okay, Carter brokered the Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement back in the 1970's which later fell apart, and did a lot of post-presidential negotiation work, but really... not much done by any of 'em - esp. compared to the likes of Martin Luther King Jr, FFS...)</p></div><p>Well I think Gore deserves credit for turning climate change into a legitimate political issues in the US. I don't know if/when legislation will come out of it but Gore certainly has done a lot in casting himself as the American AGW champion.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Why not ?
I mean , sure Torvalds is n't exactly a Ghandi ( who ironically never got one , IIRC ) ... ...but then again , look who else got one : Jimmy Carter , Al Gore , Barack Obama - not as if these three gents had really done too much to earn it ( okay , Carter brokered the Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement back in the 1970 's which later fell apart , and did a lot of post-presidential negotiation work , but really... not much done by any of 'em - esp .
compared to the likes of Martin Luther King Jr , FFS... ) Well I think Gore deserves credit for turning climate change into a legitimate political issues in the US .
I do n't know if/when legislation will come out of it but Gore certainly has done a lot in casting himself as the American AGW champion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not?
I mean, sure Torvalds isn't exactly a Ghandi (who ironically never got one, IIRC)... ...but then again, look who else got one: Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Barack Obama - not as if these three gents had really done too much to earn it (okay, Carter brokered the Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement back in the 1970's which later fell apart, and did a lot of post-presidential negotiation work, but really... not much done by any of 'em - esp.
compared to the likes of Martin Luther King Jr, FFS...)Well I think Gore deserves credit for turning climate change into a legitimate political issues in the US.
I don't know if/when legislation will come out of it but Gore certainly has done a lot in casting himself as the American AGW champion.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172568</id>
	<title>Giving to everybody now?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258738860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not just hand one to everyone? Sheesh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not just hand one to everyone ?
Sheesh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not just hand one to everyone?
Sheesh.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173474</id>
	<title>Millennium Technology Prize</title>
	<author>SpuriousLogic</author>
	<datestamp>1258741920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nobel Prizes are for basic science research (at least the science ones are).  No way Linus is worthy of a Peace Prize.  There is already a prize that would fit him though - the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium\_Technology\_Prize" title="wikipedia.org">Millennium Technology Prize</a> [wikipedia.org].  Although it seems everyone forgot it already, Tim Berners-Lee won this two years ago.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobel Prizes are for basic science research ( at least the science ones are ) .
No way Linus is worthy of a Peace Prize .
There is already a prize that would fit him though - the Millennium Technology Prize [ wikipedia.org ] .
Although it seems everyone forgot it already , Tim Berners-Lee won this two years ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobel Prizes are for basic science research (at least the science ones are).
No way Linus is worthy of a Peace Prize.
There is already a prize that would fit him though - the Millennium Technology Prize [wikipedia.org].
Although it seems everyone forgot it already, Tim Berners-Lee won this two years ago.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176252</id>
	<title>The Nobel Peace Prize is like hemorrhoids ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258708260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... any asshole can get them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... any asshole can get them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... any asshole can get them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173818</id>
	<title>Re:Can we stop with the Obama comparisons?</title>
	<author>CannonballHead</author>
	<datestamp>1258743300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't think it was a great idea to give the prize to him but it the idea that we don't give nobel peace prizes to people to encourage/support/recognize potential work is just wrong.</p></div><p>Recognize potential work?  That sounds strange to me.  I guess I'm used to getting rewards based on something I actually HAVE done, not something that I said I MIGHT do<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... if I feel like it and if it's popular at the time.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>[...] Carl von Ossietsky for his journalism and peace activism against the Nazis.</p></div><p>Ah-ha.  He did journalism and peace activism.  He did a lot more than give a few speeches <i>while campaigning for a political office.</i> </p><p><div class="quote"><p>And we all know how well he actually succeeded. Not at all. But that prize was completely reasonable.</p></div><p>So the potential work, while encouraged and supported, never happened?  Strange thing to reward.  But he <i>did</i> do some actual work, right?  More than speeches or writing two books <i>about himself</i>?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>There's a long history of giving the prizes to people who promise future work.</p></div><p>You mentioned one... and he was already involved in doing his work<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... one counts as a "long history" I guess?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Moreover, Obama's win was a real accomplishment as the first black US President.</p></div><p>Then he should get a marketing and PR award.  Being the first black US President is <b>not</b> a qualification for a peace prize (or shouldn't be) and it <b>should not have been</b> a qualification for being President.  The fact that so many people complain about those racist bigots that dare to disagree with the first black President are only displaying one thing to me: they are so racist that <i>they</i> can't see past the color of his skin and think it's his most important trait.  I happen to <i>not care</i> that he's black.  Somehow that's racist now.  All this time I thought I was supposed to treat blacks and whites equal.  I guess not.  Sorry, that was a rant that came out of your comment - there's nothing inherently wrong with being the first black President.  But there's a lot wrong with voting for him just for the sake of that.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Also as a matter of international peace having a US President who doesn't think that bombing everything is a solution and doesn't go to war due to Biblical verses,</p></div><p>Yup, Bush did nothing but bomb many, many countries.  Aside from fulfilling a lot of his campaign promises within his first year of office, that is.  And aside from the fact that we were attacked before we went to bomb (unless you buy into conspiracy theories only when it's about a President you don't like).  And aside from the fact that he actually viewed the terrorist wackos for what they really are - terrorist wackos.  And besides, Obama can't seem to make up his mind about anything, not even about the war in Afghanistan <i>that he said he supported and would finish.<i>  Unfortunately, I'm not sure he typically referred to winning, just "finishing."  What I am hoping to not happen is another Vietnam.</i></i></p><p><div class="quote"><p>So even if accomplishments were necessary Obama had them.</p></div><p>He talked a lot.  What's he done so far?  He still supported the war in Afghanistan, presumably, just not Iraq (and by the way, a lot of Congress supported the war in Iraq along with Bush).  I had no idea that having a proper Biblical hermeneutic was a qualification for the Nobel Peace Prize, maybe I should try out for it?  I still haven't seen these accomplishments of Obama, aside from, as usual - he's not Bush (or at least, he's didn't talk like Bush while campaigning).  He was nominated very soon after he was elected, as I recall, so the nomination even was based on <i>his campaign</i>.  Because we all know that people are the most truthful while campaigning.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Finally, Torvalds has real accomplishments.</p></div><p>As opposed to whom?  Obama?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I could reasonably see a joint peace prize for Torvalds, Lessig and Stallman.</p></div><p>If you think Bush (or Rumsfeld) was bad with Bible verses, you should look at what Stallman thinks.</p><p>You know who I think should get an NPP?  The first person to <i>actually get Iran to comply</i>.  The UN threatens apparently inaction if Iran does nothing.  Obama and Clinton talk tough and apparently do nothing (although Obama has threatened *gasp* sanctions).  Maybe the first person to stop global terrorism and have Iran comply with the nuclear thing should get an NPP.  Not the person who <i>says</i> he'll do it, but the person that actually is responsible for accomplishing it.  Perhaps at a risk of his own political future or something really cool like that.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I do n't think it was a great idea to give the prize to him but it the idea that we do n't give nobel peace prizes to people to encourage/support/recognize potential work is just wrong.Recognize potential work ?
That sounds strange to me .
I guess I 'm used to getting rewards based on something I actually HAVE done , not something that I said I MIGHT do ... if I feel like it and if it 's popular at the time. [ .. .
] Carl von Ossietsky for his journalism and peace activism against the Nazis.Ah-ha .
He did journalism and peace activism .
He did a lot more than give a few speeches while campaigning for a political office .
And we all know how well he actually succeeded .
Not at all .
But that prize was completely reasonable.So the potential work , while encouraged and supported , never happened ?
Strange thing to reward .
But he did do some actual work , right ?
More than speeches or writing two books about himself ? There 's a long history of giving the prizes to people who promise future work.You mentioned one... and he was already involved in doing his work ... one counts as a " long history " I guess ? Moreover , Obama 's win was a real accomplishment as the first black US President.Then he should get a marketing and PR award .
Being the first black US President is not a qualification for a peace prize ( or should n't be ) and it should not have been a qualification for being President .
The fact that so many people complain about those racist bigots that dare to disagree with the first black President are only displaying one thing to me : they are so racist that they ca n't see past the color of his skin and think it 's his most important trait .
I happen to not care that he 's black .
Somehow that 's racist now .
All this time I thought I was supposed to treat blacks and whites equal .
I guess not .
Sorry , that was a rant that came out of your comment - there 's nothing inherently wrong with being the first black President .
But there 's a lot wrong with voting for him just for the sake of that.Also as a matter of international peace having a US President who does n't think that bombing everything is a solution and does n't go to war due to Biblical verses,Yup , Bush did nothing but bomb many , many countries .
Aside from fulfilling a lot of his campaign promises within his first year of office , that is .
And aside from the fact that we were attacked before we went to bomb ( unless you buy into conspiracy theories only when it 's about a President you do n't like ) .
And aside from the fact that he actually viewed the terrorist wackos for what they really are - terrorist wackos .
And besides , Obama ca n't seem to make up his mind about anything , not even about the war in Afghanistan that he said he supported and would finish .
Unfortunately , I 'm not sure he typically referred to winning , just " finishing .
" What I am hoping to not happen is another Vietnam.So even if accomplishments were necessary Obama had them.He talked a lot .
What 's he done so far ?
He still supported the war in Afghanistan , presumably , just not Iraq ( and by the way , a lot of Congress supported the war in Iraq along with Bush ) .
I had no idea that having a proper Biblical hermeneutic was a qualification for the Nobel Peace Prize , maybe I should try out for it ?
I still have n't seen these accomplishments of Obama , aside from , as usual - he 's not Bush ( or at least , he 's did n't talk like Bush while campaigning ) .
He was nominated very soon after he was elected , as I recall , so the nomination even was based on his campaign .
Because we all know that people are the most truthful while campaigning.Finally , Torvalds has real accomplishments.As opposed to whom ?
Obama ? ; ) I could reasonably see a joint peace prize for Torvalds , Lessig and Stallman.If you think Bush ( or Rumsfeld ) was bad with Bible verses , you should look at what Stallman thinks.You know who I think should get an NPP ?
The first person to actually get Iran to comply .
The UN threatens apparently inaction if Iran does nothing .
Obama and Clinton talk tough and apparently do nothing ( although Obama has threatened * gasp * sanctions ) .
Maybe the first person to stop global terrorism and have Iran comply with the nuclear thing should get an NPP .
Not the person who says he 'll do it , but the person that actually is responsible for accomplishing it .
Perhaps at a risk of his own political future or something really cool like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think it was a great idea to give the prize to him but it the idea that we don't give nobel peace prizes to people to encourage/support/recognize potential work is just wrong.Recognize potential work?
That sounds strange to me.
I guess I'm used to getting rewards based on something I actually HAVE done, not something that I said I MIGHT do ... if I feel like it and if it's popular at the time.[...
] Carl von Ossietsky for his journalism and peace activism against the Nazis.Ah-ha.
He did journalism and peace activism.
He did a lot more than give a few speeches while campaigning for a political office.
And we all know how well he actually succeeded.
Not at all.
But that prize was completely reasonable.So the potential work, while encouraged and supported, never happened?
Strange thing to reward.
But he did do some actual work, right?
More than speeches or writing two books about himself?There's a long history of giving the prizes to people who promise future work.You mentioned one... and he was already involved in doing his work ... one counts as a "long history" I guess?Moreover, Obama's win was a real accomplishment as the first black US President.Then he should get a marketing and PR award.
Being the first black US President is not a qualification for a peace prize (or shouldn't be) and it should not have been a qualification for being President.
The fact that so many people complain about those racist bigots that dare to disagree with the first black President are only displaying one thing to me: they are so racist that they can't see past the color of his skin and think it's his most important trait.
I happen to not care that he's black.
Somehow that's racist now.
All this time I thought I was supposed to treat blacks and whites equal.
I guess not.
Sorry, that was a rant that came out of your comment - there's nothing inherently wrong with being the first black President.
But there's a lot wrong with voting for him just for the sake of that.Also as a matter of international peace having a US President who doesn't think that bombing everything is a solution and doesn't go to war due to Biblical verses,Yup, Bush did nothing but bomb many, many countries.
Aside from fulfilling a lot of his campaign promises within his first year of office, that is.
And aside from the fact that we were attacked before we went to bomb (unless you buy into conspiracy theories only when it's about a President you don't like).
And aside from the fact that he actually viewed the terrorist wackos for what they really are - terrorist wackos.
And besides, Obama can't seem to make up his mind about anything, not even about the war in Afghanistan that he said he supported and would finish.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure he typically referred to winning, just "finishing.
"  What I am hoping to not happen is another Vietnam.So even if accomplishments were necessary Obama had them.He talked a lot.
What's he done so far?
He still supported the war in Afghanistan, presumably, just not Iraq (and by the way, a lot of Congress supported the war in Iraq along with Bush).
I had no idea that having a proper Biblical hermeneutic was a qualification for the Nobel Peace Prize, maybe I should try out for it?
I still haven't seen these accomplishments of Obama, aside from, as usual - he's not Bush (or at least, he's didn't talk like Bush while campaigning).
He was nominated very soon after he was elected, as I recall, so the nomination even was based on his campaign.
Because we all know that people are the most truthful while campaigning.Finally, Torvalds has real accomplishments.As opposed to whom?
Obama? ;)I could reasonably see a joint peace prize for Torvalds, Lessig and Stallman.If you think Bush (or Rumsfeld) was bad with Bible verses, you should look at what Stallman thinks.You know who I think should get an NPP?
The first person to actually get Iran to comply.
The UN threatens apparently inaction if Iran does nothing.
Obama and Clinton talk tough and apparently do nothing (although Obama has threatened *gasp* sanctions).
Maybe the first person to stop global terrorism and have Iran comply with the nuclear thing should get an NPP.
Not the person who says he'll do it, but the person that actually is responsible for accomplishing it.
Perhaps at a risk of his own political future or something really cool like that.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173158</id>
	<title>RMS deserves it more</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258740840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you're going to start handing out Nobel peace prizes like candy, RMS should probaby get the next one.<br>He has actually created things which have changed the face of computing, GPL, the concept of free software, GNU, all these things are huge compared to a kernel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're going to start handing out Nobel peace prizes like candy , RMS should probaby get the next one.He has actually created things which have changed the face of computing , GPL , the concept of free software , GNU , all these things are huge compared to a kernel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're going to start handing out Nobel peace prizes like candy, RMS should probaby get the next one.He has actually created things which have changed the face of computing, GPL, the concept of free software, GNU, all these things are huge compared to a kernel.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172564</id>
	<title>In a word...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258738860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Is it worthy of wider attention and discussion?"</p><p>No.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Is it worthy of wider attention and discussion ?
" No .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Is it worthy of wider attention and discussion?
"No.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172970</id>
	<title>Re:Linux Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>Whatsisname</author>
	<datestamp>1258740060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Science and technology has driven more social change than any other factor in human history.</p><p>Politicians and military leaders sure talk a lot and get the most attention, but its scientists and engineers that really make the world a better place and are most worthy of any kind of piece prize.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Science and technology has driven more social change than any other factor in human history.Politicians and military leaders sure talk a lot and get the most attention , but its scientists and engineers that really make the world a better place and are most worthy of any kind of piece prize .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Science and technology has driven more social change than any other factor in human history.Politicians and military leaders sure talk a lot and get the most attention, but its scientists and engineers that really make the world a better place and are most worthy of any kind of piece prize.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172544</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30177032</id>
	<title>Let's do it, ok...</title>
	<author>Dynamus</author>
	<datestamp>1258710840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think that pretty much anyone could get a Nobel these days if properly lobbied. Someone from the Open Source  would make great publicity and bring momentum to the movement</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that pretty much anyone could get a Nobel these days if properly lobbied .
Someone from the Open Source would make great publicity and bring momentum to the movement</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that pretty much anyone could get a Nobel these days if properly lobbied.
Someone from the Open Source  would make great publicity and bring momentum to the movement</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30178912</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1258717500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And Theo de Raadt should get one for not being Steve Ballmer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And Theo de Raadt should get one for not being Steve Ballmer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And Theo de Raadt should get one for not being Steve Ballmer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172820</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174000</id>
	<title>Re:Linux Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>msimm</author>
	<datestamp>1258743840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Besides, don't you think someone who was as important an visionary as Ghandi would see the importance of providing access to high-quality software not just to the rich but to every living person on the planet? Linus has done much more to bridge the economic and technological divide then I think we sometimes give him (and every other contributor out there) credit for. Software (and the services that provide access to technology) is becoming much more important then a few geeks scratching around in computer labs and gaming. I think sometimes we lose sight of this and because of these major contributions from the open source communities we can afford to forget about them and take them for granted.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Besides , do n't you think someone who was as important an visionary as Ghandi would see the importance of providing access to high-quality software not just to the rich but to every living person on the planet ?
Linus has done much more to bridge the economic and technological divide then I think we sometimes give him ( and every other contributor out there ) credit for .
Software ( and the services that provide access to technology ) is becoming much more important then a few geeks scratching around in computer labs and gaming .
I think sometimes we lose sight of this and because of these major contributions from the open source communities we can afford to forget about them and take them for granted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Besides, don't you think someone who was as important an visionary as Ghandi would see the importance of providing access to high-quality software not just to the rich but to every living person on the planet?
Linus has done much more to bridge the economic and technological divide then I think we sometimes give him (and every other contributor out there) credit for.
Software (and the services that provide access to technology) is becoming much more important then a few geeks scratching around in computer labs and gaming.
I think sometimes we lose sight of this and because of these major contributions from the open source communities we can afford to forget about them and take them for granted.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172922</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173290</id>
	<title>Re:That's GNU/Linux, you insensitive clod!</title>
	<author>Brandonski</author>
	<datestamp>1258741320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think you're confusing Linus with RMS.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you 're confusing Linus with RMS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you're confusing Linus with RMS.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172824</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30241124</id>
	<title>Re:Well...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259241960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No. Nowadays, you only receive a Peace Prize for doing nothing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
Nowadays , you only receive a Peace Prize for doing nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
Nowadays, you only receive a Peace Prize for doing nothing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30187422</id>
	<title>Re:Can we stop with the Obama comparisons?</title>
	<author>Pix Pocketts</author>
	<datestamp>1258795680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Truth hurts?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Truth hurts ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Truth hurts?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172906</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174164</id>
	<title>Take the money and run</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258744440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let him have the Nobel Prize at least for the $$ as the Nobel is worthless otherwise.
After Arafat, Gore, Carter and now Obama for "potential" the prize has turned into a joke.

Take the money and run</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let him have the Nobel Prize at least for the $ $ as the Nobel is worthless otherwise .
After Arafat , Gore , Carter and now Obama for " potential " the prize has turned into a joke .
Take the money and run</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let him have the Nobel Prize at least for the $$ as the Nobel is worthless otherwise.
After Arafat, Gore, Carter and now Obama for "potential" the prize has turned into a joke.
Take the money and run</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173244</id>
	<title>For making an OS?  No way...</title>
	<author>SpuriousLogic</author>
	<datestamp>1258741080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What wars has Linux stopped?  What international dispute has Linux settled?  What starving group of people has Linux saved?  Nominating Linus because of Linux for the peace prize is really stretching it.  Igor Sikorsky never received a Peace Prize, and he was fundamental in the development of the helicopter, which has DIRECTLY saved thousands of peoples lives.  Linus might be worthy of some other prize, like the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium\_Technology\_Prize" title="wikipedia.org">Millennium Technology Prize</a> [wikipedia.org], but never in a thousand years does his development of Linux or inclusion in the Open Source movement qualify him for a Nobel Peace Prize.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What wars has Linux stopped ?
What international dispute has Linux settled ?
What starving group of people has Linux saved ?
Nominating Linus because of Linux for the peace prize is really stretching it .
Igor Sikorsky never received a Peace Prize , and he was fundamental in the development of the helicopter , which has DIRECTLY saved thousands of peoples lives .
Linus might be worthy of some other prize , like the Millennium Technology Prize [ wikipedia.org ] , but never in a thousand years does his development of Linux or inclusion in the Open Source movement qualify him for a Nobel Peace Prize .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What wars has Linux stopped?
What international dispute has Linux settled?
What starving group of people has Linux saved?
Nominating Linus because of Linux for the peace prize is really stretching it.
Igor Sikorsky never received a Peace Prize, and he was fundamental in the development of the helicopter, which has DIRECTLY saved thousands of peoples lives.
Linus might be worthy of some other prize, like the Millennium Technology Prize [wikipedia.org], but never in a thousand years does his development of Linux or inclusion in the Open Source movement qualify him for a Nobel Peace Prize.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173230</id>
	<title>At least...</title>
	<author>pmontra</author>
	<datestamp>1258741020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... he did something real in the last (almost) 20 years even if I don't know if he contributed to bringing peace to this world in some way.</p><p>For sure one can think about it and create some compelling arguments to support that cause so why not? Linus for Nobel!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... he did something real in the last ( almost ) 20 years even if I do n't know if he contributed to bringing peace to this world in some way.For sure one can think about it and create some compelling arguments to support that cause so why not ?
Linus for Nobel !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... he did something real in the last (almost) 20 years even if I don't know if he contributed to bringing peace to this world in some way.For sure one can think about it and create some compelling arguments to support that cause so why not?
Linus for Nobel!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176800</id>
	<title>He's earned it, I'd say.</title>
	<author>Dudeman\_Jones</author>
	<datestamp>1258710240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After all, an insane percentage of the modern world's digital infrastructure is powered by Unix/Linux.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After all , an insane percentage of the modern world 's digital infrastructure is powered by Unix/Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After all, an insane percentage of the modern world's digital infrastructure is powered by Unix/Linux.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30177622</id>
	<title>How about the Turing award instead?</title>
	<author>yorktown</author>
	<datestamp>1258712820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is the most prestigious award in Computer Science.  Here is what it is given for:<p><div class="quote"><p> <a href="http://awards.acm.org/homepage.cfm?awd=140" title="acm.org" rel="nofollow">It</a> [acm.org] is given to an individual selected for contributions of a technical nature made to the computing community. The contributions should be of lasting and major technical importance to the computer field.</p></div><p>It isn't as famous as a Peace Prize, but it does recognize real accomplishment.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is the most prestigious award in Computer Science .
Here is what it is given for : It [ acm.org ] is given to an individual selected for contributions of a technical nature made to the computing community .
The contributions should be of lasting and major technical importance to the computer field.It is n't as famous as a Peace Prize , but it does recognize real accomplishment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is the most prestigious award in Computer Science.
Here is what it is given for: It [acm.org] is given to an individual selected for contributions of a technical nature made to the computing community.
The contributions should be of lasting and major technical importance to the computer field.It isn't as famous as a Peace Prize, but it does recognize real accomplishment.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176814</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>flabordec</author>
	<datestamp>1258710300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't understand how it is "far more extraordinary" to build an open source project and oversee it for many years than it is to create one of the most successful businesses in the world and oversee it for many years. </p><p>Perhaps Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are not technical gurus like Linus, but they have done some extraordinary stuff in their lives.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand how it is " far more extraordinary " to build an open source project and oversee it for many years than it is to create one of the most successful businesses in the world and oversee it for many years .
Perhaps Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are not technical gurus like Linus , but they have done some extraordinary stuff in their lives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand how it is "far more extraordinary" to build an open source project and oversee it for many years than it is to create one of the most successful businesses in the world and oversee it for many years.
Perhaps Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are not technical gurus like Linus, but they have done some extraordinary stuff in their lives.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173130</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30206504</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>naudiac</author>
	<datestamp>1258973100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about giving it to Bill Gates?
Isn't he one of the world's most prolific philanthropists?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about giving it to Bill Gates ?
Is n't he one of the world 's most prolific philanthropists ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about giving it to Bill Gates?
Isn't he one of the world's most prolific philanthropists?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172762</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172682</id>
	<title>Briefly, no.</title>
	<author>pz</author>
	<datestamp>1258739220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nobel prizes are not decided by popular vote.  They are not decided by wider discussion and consideration.  There is no forum for public nomination.  There are no public announcements of the candidates under consideration, even after the fact.  Despite what kdawson might hope, he, and the rest of the people around Portland get no say in deciding Nobel prizes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobel prizes are not decided by popular vote .
They are not decided by wider discussion and consideration .
There is no forum for public nomination .
There are no public announcements of the candidates under consideration , even after the fact .
Despite what kdawson might hope , he , and the rest of the people around Portland get no say in deciding Nobel prizes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobel prizes are not decided by popular vote.
They are not decided by wider discussion and consideration.
There is no forum for public nomination.
There are no public announcements of the candidates under consideration, even after the fact.
Despite what kdawson might hope, he, and the rest of the people around Portland get no say in deciding Nobel prizes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174826</id>
	<title>More Appropriate for Free Software Founder</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258746480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Presidential Medal Of Freedom.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Presidential Medal Of Freedom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Presidential Medal Of Freedom.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172750</id>
	<title>Physics perhaps?</title>
	<author>H0p313ss</author>
	<datestamp>1258739340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Certainly his contribution to humanity as a whole should be recognized in some appropriate way but I'm not convinced the peace prize is the right one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Certainly his contribution to humanity as a whole should be recognized in some appropriate way but I 'm not convinced the peace prize is the right one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Certainly his contribution to humanity as a whole should be recognized in some appropriate way but I'm not convinced the peace prize is the right one.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30197382</id>
	<title>He brought peace to the flamewars</title>
	<author>aflag</author>
	<datestamp>1258892700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>and it only took one "masturbating monkey" comment.</htmltext>
<tokenext>and it only took one " masturbating monkey " comment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and it only took one "masturbating monkey" comment.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173054</id>
	<title>I absolutely support this . . .</title>
	<author>darth\_borehd</author>
	<datestamp>1258740360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>He created a project that fostered international cooperation and was essential to the expansion of the internet.  It made thousands of embedded devices possible and freed computers from the shackles of proprietary operating systems.  It made computing possible for millions of people around the world who otherwise would not be able to afford computers.  The non-profit, collaborative model opened doors to connect computer professionals from all around the globe.  He would definitely be one of the best candidates in 20 years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He created a project that fostered international cooperation and was essential to the expansion of the internet .
It made thousands of embedded devices possible and freed computers from the shackles of proprietary operating systems .
It made computing possible for millions of people around the world who otherwise would not be able to afford computers .
The non-profit , collaborative model opened doors to connect computer professionals from all around the globe .
He would definitely be one of the best candidates in 20 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He created a project that fostered international cooperation and was essential to the expansion of the internet.
It made thousands of embedded devices possible and freed computers from the shackles of proprietary operating systems.
It made computing possible for millions of people around the world who otherwise would not be able to afford computers.
The non-profit, collaborative model opened doors to connect computer professionals from all around the globe.
He would definitely be one of the best candidates in 20 years.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30175676</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>fishexe</author>
	<datestamp>1258749180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Since Obama got one for not being George W. Bush, Linus should get one for not being Theo de Raadt.</p></div><p>
Or how about for not being Bill Gates?  That's worth *two* nobels, and Linus does it better than anyone!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since Obama got one for not being George W. Bush , Linus should get one for not being Theo de Raadt .
Or how about for not being Bill Gates ?
That 's worth * two * nobels , and Linus does it better than anyone !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since Obama got one for not being George W. Bush, Linus should get one for not being Theo de Raadt.
Or how about for not being Bill Gates?
That's worth *two* nobels, and Linus does it better than anyone!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172820</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173432</id>
	<title>Anyone but him</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258741740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://silvioperilnobel.sitonline.it/8/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //silvioperilnobel.sitonline.it/8/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://silvioperilnobel.sitonline.it/8/</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30177074</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>houstonbofh</author>
	<datestamp>1258711020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, you do have a point in that Stallman brought GPL and open source licensing into the coding world.  However, I use several things daily with more open BSD or Apache style licenses that are still free.  By your argument, FreeBSD should not exist, yet it does.  But it never hit the mainstream public momentum of Linux.  While I do not believe it was the license that caused that, it is debatable.</p><p>And RMS started GNU in 85.  I was using e-mail before then.  And I wrote an e-mail client as well...  Yes, computers existed before GNU.  So did compilers, many of the reasonably priced.  So did shareware CD Burning apps, ammong other things.</p><p>But look at your last paragraph.  If that does not sound like religion, what does?  Not saying you are wrong in all of your points, but it is not reason alone that drives them</p><p>And for the record, while he started a bit ahead of me, I am not sure if it was before I was born. (Close to that time, however) and we both learned programming on the same first language.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , you do have a point in that Stallman brought GPL and open source licensing into the coding world .
However , I use several things daily with more open BSD or Apache style licenses that are still free .
By your argument , FreeBSD should not exist , yet it does .
But it never hit the mainstream public momentum of Linux .
While I do not believe it was the license that caused that , it is debatable.And RMS started GNU in 85 .
I was using e-mail before then .
And I wrote an e-mail client as well... Yes , computers existed before GNU .
So did compilers , many of the reasonably priced .
So did shareware CD Burning apps , ammong other things.But look at your last paragraph .
If that does not sound like religion , what does ?
Not saying you are wrong in all of your points , but it is not reason alone that drives themAnd for the record , while he started a bit ahead of me , I am not sure if it was before I was born .
( Close to that time , however ) and we both learned programming on the same first language .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, you do have a point in that Stallman brought GPL and open source licensing into the coding world.
However, I use several things daily with more open BSD or Apache style licenses that are still free.
By your argument, FreeBSD should not exist, yet it does.
But it never hit the mainstream public momentum of Linux.
While I do not believe it was the license that caused that, it is debatable.And RMS started GNU in 85.
I was using e-mail before then.
And I wrote an e-mail client as well...  Yes, computers existed before GNU.
So did compilers, many of the reasonably priced.
So did shareware CD Burning apps, ammong other things.But look at your last paragraph.
If that does not sound like religion, what does?
Not saying you are wrong in all of your points, but it is not reason alone that drives themAnd for the record, while he started a bit ahead of me, I am not sure if it was before I was born.
(Close to that time, however) and we both learned programming on the same first language.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174734</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174298</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258744860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And barack obama (peace be upon him) is just an oreo reading off a teleprompter. The nobel piece prize should have gone to axlerod, plouffe, and the speech writers. Not that it should have gone to them, either.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And barack obama ( peace be upon him ) is just an oreo reading off a teleprompter .
The nobel piece prize should have gone to axlerod , plouffe , and the speech writers .
Not that it should have gone to them , either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And barack obama (peace be upon him) is just an oreo reading off a teleprompter.
The nobel piece prize should have gone to axlerod, plouffe, and the speech writers.
Not that it should have gone to them, either.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173190</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173116</id>
	<title>Well, why not?</title>
	<author>Slipped\_Disk</author>
	<datestamp>1258740600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He's managed to foster a global community (fractious and contentious though the wars between distributions may be) and I don't think that anyone can argue that a typical open-source developer conference looks a bit like the UN with all the disparate countries and cultures coming together to work on a common project.<br>
<br>
Linux and the GNU bits have been picked up as THE standard for computing in low-income countries and regions - How many systems targeted at getting the poor, underdeveloped, etc. on the net are running Linux distributions under the hood?<br>
<br>
I say give it to him -- seems like the above is worthy of recognition IMHO.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's managed to foster a global community ( fractious and contentious though the wars between distributions may be ) and I do n't think that anyone can argue that a typical open-source developer conference looks a bit like the UN with all the disparate countries and cultures coming together to work on a common project .
Linux and the GNU bits have been picked up as THE standard for computing in low-income countries and regions - How many systems targeted at getting the poor , underdeveloped , etc .
on the net are running Linux distributions under the hood ?
I say give it to him -- seems like the above is worthy of recognition IMHO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's managed to foster a global community (fractious and contentious though the wars between distributions may be) and I don't think that anyone can argue that a typical open-source developer conference looks a bit like the UN with all the disparate countries and cultures coming together to work on a common project.
Linux and the GNU bits have been picked up as THE standard for computing in low-income countries and regions - How many systems targeted at getting the poor, underdeveloped, etc.
on the net are running Linux distributions under the hood?
I say give it to him -- seems like the above is worthy of recognition IMHO.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173526</id>
	<title>that would be backwards</title>
	<author>Jodka</author>
	<datestamp>1258742160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Usually awards elevate the status of their recipients.   However, if Linus Torvalds were to win the Nobel Peace Price, the association of Torvalds with that award would serve to rehabilitate the image of the Nobel Peace Prize and diminish the status of Linus by associating him with the likes of Yasser Arafat, Al Gore and Barack Obama.</p><p>Past Nobel Peace Prize recipients proclaim loudly and incessantly that they are saving the world while doing nothing or causing actual social harm.  Linus has made a significant, definite and postive impact and modestly describes his role and accomplishments.  He has exactly the wrong credentials for that award and is the ideal anti-candite for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Usually awards elevate the status of their recipients .
However , if Linus Torvalds were to win the Nobel Peace Price , the association of Torvalds with that award would serve to rehabilitate the image of the Nobel Peace Prize and diminish the status of Linus by associating him with the likes of Yasser Arafat , Al Gore and Barack Obama.Past Nobel Peace Prize recipients proclaim loudly and incessantly that they are saving the world while doing nothing or causing actual social harm .
Linus has made a significant , definite and postive impact and modestly describes his role and accomplishments .
He has exactly the wrong credentials for that award and is the ideal anti-candite for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Usually awards elevate the status of their recipients.
However, if Linus Torvalds were to win the Nobel Peace Price, the association of Torvalds with that award would serve to rehabilitate the image of the Nobel Peace Prize and diminish the status of Linus by associating him with the likes of Yasser Arafat, Al Gore and Barack Obama.Past Nobel Peace Prize recipients proclaim loudly and incessantly that they are saving the world while doing nothing or causing actual social harm.
Linus has made a significant, definite and postive impact and modestly describes his role and accomplishments.
He has exactly the wrong credentials for that award and is the ideal anti-candite for it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173456</id>
	<title>Speech?</title>
	<author>TheCybernator</author>
	<datestamp>1258741860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I haven't heard any speech from Linus Torvalds. What makes him worthy of NPP?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't heard any speech from Linus Torvalds .
What makes him worthy of NPP ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't heard any speech from Linus Torvalds.
What makes him worthy of NPP?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176018</id>
	<title>Re:Linux Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258750620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's Gandhi.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's Gandhi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's Gandhi.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172922</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30248272</id>
	<title>A Joint Award is Much Better</title>
	<author>somegeekynick</author>
	<datestamp>1259312520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If anything it should be awarded jointly to FSF/rms and Torvalds.


[Note: I'm just playing along, and not seriously hoping that this should happen.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)]</htmltext>
<tokenext>If anything it should be awarded jointly to FSF/rms and Torvalds .
[ Note : I 'm just playing along , and not seriously hoping that this should happen .
; ) ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If anything it should be awarded jointly to FSF/rms and Torvalds.
[Note: I'm just playing along, and not seriously hoping that this should happen.
;)]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30206142</id>
	<title>Yet another sugggestion</title>
	<author>beemo</author>
	<datestamp>1258971600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If the day of granting awards to computer technologists is going to dawn, then...
<br> <br>
Nobel Peace Prize to <b>RMS</b> for real change in the culture of producing quality SW by anyone
<br>
Nobel Economical Sciences Prize to <b>Linus</b> for the economical effect of Linux and Linux computers everywhere in the world
<br> <br>
I think it's pretty fair to reward them both.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the day of granting awards to computer technologists is going to dawn , then.. . Nobel Peace Prize to RMS for real change in the culture of producing quality SW by anyone Nobel Economical Sciences Prize to Linus for the economical effect of Linux and Linux computers everywhere in the world I think it 's pretty fair to reward them both .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the day of granting awards to computer technologists is going to dawn, then...
 
Nobel Peace Prize to RMS for real change in the culture of producing quality SW by anyone

Nobel Economical Sciences Prize to Linus for the economical effect of Linux and Linux computers everywhere in the world
 
I think it's pretty fair to reward them both.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30183124</id>
	<title>Join the force!</title>
	<author>VainMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1258802340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Think about it: This is just a great idea!

If we all start whining form the start that it's not possible, and he'll never get it and so on, then yes indeed, it will never work.
If Luke Skywalker thought the same, we would still be stuck with te Evil Empire!

Open source is simply great, it's just very unknown to users.
If we even could get  Torvald/Stallman on the nomination list, that would already be great for advertising the Linux phenomenon.
I know open source is more than this duo, but it has to be given to someone, who acts as a representative of a movement.
Their impact is huge, just look how many universities build on ideas they have developped, i'm not sure many 'professors' have achieved such a thing.

Religion = f(believers)
and as far as i can guess, there are millions of devoted opensource adepts.

as i said
we could start by getting them just on the nomination (long)list
later on a real nomination might be possible.

So let's not get cynical by our opensource heroes.
If you're serious on offering help, let us now on vainmonkey@gmail.com
(Subject: Nobel Prize)

(by the way
The nobel peace prize is awarded by the norvegians
The nobel economy prize is awarded by the swedes
so we'll have two horses to bet on !)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Think about it : This is just a great idea !
If we all start whining form the start that it 's not possible , and he 'll never get it and so on , then yes indeed , it will never work .
If Luke Skywalker thought the same , we would still be stuck with te Evil Empire !
Open source is simply great , it 's just very unknown to users .
If we even could get Torvald/Stallman on the nomination list , that would already be great for advertising the Linux phenomenon .
I know open source is more than this duo , but it has to be given to someone , who acts as a representative of a movement .
Their impact is huge , just look how many universities build on ideas they have developped , i 'm not sure many 'professors ' have achieved such a thing .
Religion = f ( believers ) and as far as i can guess , there are millions of devoted opensource adepts .
as i said we could start by getting them just on the nomination ( long ) list later on a real nomination might be possible .
So let 's not get cynical by our opensource heroes .
If you 're serious on offering help , let us now on vainmonkey @ gmail.com ( Subject : Nobel Prize ) ( by the way The nobel peace prize is awarded by the norvegians The nobel economy prize is awarded by the swedes so we 'll have two horses to bet on !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Think about it: This is just a great idea!
If we all start whining form the start that it's not possible, and he'll never get it and so on, then yes indeed, it will never work.
If Luke Skywalker thought the same, we would still be stuck with te Evil Empire!
Open source is simply great, it's just very unknown to users.
If we even could get  Torvald/Stallman on the nomination list, that would already be great for advertising the Linux phenomenon.
I know open source is more than this duo, but it has to be given to someone, who acts as a representative of a movement.
Their impact is huge, just look how many universities build on ideas they have developped, i'm not sure many 'professors' have achieved such a thing.
Religion = f(believers)
and as far as i can guess, there are millions of devoted opensource adepts.
as i said
we could start by getting them just on the nomination (long)list
later on a real nomination might be possible.
So let's not get cynical by our opensource heroes.
If you're serious on offering help, let us now on vainmonkey@gmail.com
(Subject: Nobel Prize)

(by the way
The nobel peace prize is awarded by the norvegians
The nobel economy prize is awarded by the swedes
so we'll have two horses to bet on !
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173536</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258742220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know, Linus is just questionable enough to slip in.  Consider that Linux probably wouldn't exist without GNU (and GNU wouldn't exist without BSD).</p><p>So there are tons of people that built what we have now and most of the work was done before Linus came around.  So yeah, just controversial and undeserving enough that maybe he will get it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know , Linus is just questionable enough to slip in .
Consider that Linux probably would n't exist without GNU ( and GNU would n't exist without BSD ) .So there are tons of people that built what we have now and most of the work was done before Linus came around .
So yeah , just controversial and undeserving enough that maybe he will get it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know, Linus is just questionable enough to slip in.
Consider that Linux probably wouldn't exist without GNU (and GNU wouldn't exist without BSD).So there are tons of people that built what we have now and most of the work was done before Linus came around.
So yeah, just controversial and undeserving enough that maybe he will get it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172762</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173388</id>
	<title>Millennium Technology Prize</title>
	<author>SpuriousLogic</author>
	<datestamp>1258741620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Linus for the Nobel Peace Prize?  No way.  Look at the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium\_Technology\_Prize" title="wikipedia.org">Millennium Technology Prize</a> [wikipedia.org] instead.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus for the Nobel Peace Prize ?
No way .
Look at the Millennium Technology Prize [ wikipedia.org ] instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus for the Nobel Peace Prize?
No way.
Look at the Millennium Technology Prize [wikipedia.org] instead.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173304</id>
	<title>Nobel Prize For Computing</title>
	<author>Ukab the Great</author>
	<datestamp>1258741320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's needed is a Nobel Prize for Computing that recognizes important contributions to advances in digital technology.</p><p>Linus should win that, though probably after Tim Berners Lee, Jef Raskin, Douglas Englebart and others who've made as important contributions as Linus receive it first.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's needed is a Nobel Prize for Computing that recognizes important contributions to advances in digital technology.Linus should win that , though probably after Tim Berners Lee , Jef Raskin , Douglas Englebart and others who 've made as important contributions as Linus receive it first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's needed is a Nobel Prize for Computing that recognizes important contributions to advances in digital technology.Linus should win that, though probably after Tim Berners Lee, Jef Raskin, Douglas Englebart and others who've made as important contributions as Linus receive it first.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173192</id>
	<title>Re:Physics perhaps?</title>
	<author>east coast</author>
	<datestamp>1258740900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Physics? Please, do not hijack that prize either. The kinds of science that is being produced by modern day physicists is going to make modern computing look as advanced as cave drawings.<br> <br>Give him credit where (if) credit is due. Don't make up something just to give him a prize. Maybe there should be a Nobel prize for computing but if there isn't one don't take away from the accomplishments of those who put in the hours on legitimate projects. It's petty and it's belittling.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Physics ?
Please , do not hijack that prize either .
The kinds of science that is being produced by modern day physicists is going to make modern computing look as advanced as cave drawings .
Give him credit where ( if ) credit is due .
Do n't make up something just to give him a prize .
Maybe there should be a Nobel prize for computing but if there is n't one do n't take away from the accomplishments of those who put in the hours on legitimate projects .
It 's petty and it 's belittling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Physics?
Please, do not hijack that prize either.
The kinds of science that is being produced by modern day physicists is going to make modern computing look as advanced as cave drawings.
Give him credit where (if) credit is due.
Don't make up something just to give him a prize.
Maybe there should be a Nobel prize for computing but if there isn't one don't take away from the accomplishments of those who put in the hours on legitimate projects.
It's petty and it's belittling.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172750</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30185586</id>
	<title>NPP TP</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258827060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the nobel peace prize is a joke anyways.  If Linus really needs more toilet paper...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the nobel peace prize is a joke anyways .
If Linus really needs more toilet paper.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the nobel peace prize is a joke anyways.
If Linus really needs more toilet paper...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176492</id>
	<title>How laughable</title>
	<author>Brian Feldman</author>
	<datestamp>1258709100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If Linus hadn't started Linux, BSD would be in its current place.  Linus did nothing spectacular or revolutionary.  He was in the right place at the right time with his then-toy operating system, when AT&amp;T was giving BSD legal trouble.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If Linus had n't started Linux , BSD would be in its current place .
Linus did nothing spectacular or revolutionary .
He was in the right place at the right time with his then-toy operating system , when AT&amp;T was giving BSD legal trouble .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Linus hadn't started Linux, BSD would be in its current place.
Linus did nothing spectacular or revolutionary.
He was in the right place at the right time with his then-toy operating system, when AT&amp;T was giving BSD legal trouble.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173360</id>
	<title>No</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1258741560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm a big fan of both Thorvalds and Obama, but I don't believe either of them deserves a Nobel Peace Prize... yet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a big fan of both Thorvalds and Obama , but I do n't believe either of them deserves a Nobel Peace Prize... yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a big fan of both Thorvalds and Obama, but I don't believe either of them deserves a Nobel Peace Prize... yet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172926</id>
	<title>Yes: Intellectual monopoly is war-like</title>
	<author>jurgen</author>
	<datestamp>1258739940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, Linus is worth of consideration, not only for his own achievements but also for what he symbolizes in the fight against Intellectual Monopoly.  This is one of the great fights of our times... and the wealth-grab of widening intellectual monopoly is part of what makes the rich (nations) richer and the poor poorer.  Nominating Linus for the Nobel Peace Price would draw needed attention to this fight.</p><p>Linux is an equalizer for the poor.  I am involved in a project in Brazil where we take old (and usually broken) donated machines show local kids how to rebuild them and put linux on them.  Dozens of kids who would not otherwise have been able to afford a computer or learn about technology have benefited from this.  And there are thousands of such projects around the world, having made a huge difference at the grass-roots in many communities.</p><p>I heartily support Linus's nomination!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , Linus is worth of consideration , not only for his own achievements but also for what he symbolizes in the fight against Intellectual Monopoly .
This is one of the great fights of our times... and the wealth-grab of widening intellectual monopoly is part of what makes the rich ( nations ) richer and the poor poorer .
Nominating Linus for the Nobel Peace Price would draw needed attention to this fight.Linux is an equalizer for the poor .
I am involved in a project in Brazil where we take old ( and usually broken ) donated machines show local kids how to rebuild them and put linux on them .
Dozens of kids who would not otherwise have been able to afford a computer or learn about technology have benefited from this .
And there are thousands of such projects around the world , having made a huge difference at the grass-roots in many communities.I heartily support Linus 's nomination !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, Linus is worth of consideration, not only for his own achievements but also for what he symbolizes in the fight against Intellectual Monopoly.
This is one of the great fights of our times... and the wealth-grab of widening intellectual monopoly is part of what makes the rich (nations) richer and the poor poorer.
Nominating Linus for the Nobel Peace Price would draw needed attention to this fight.Linux is an equalizer for the poor.
I am involved in a project in Brazil where we take old (and usually broken) donated machines show local kids how to rebuild them and put linux on them.
Dozens of kids who would not otherwise have been able to afford a computer or learn about technology have benefited from this.
And there are thousands of such projects around the world, having made a huge difference at the grass-roots in many communities.I heartily support Linus's nomination!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30181804</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258737120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With the exception of the literary prize, Nobel Prizes can only be awarded to living humans.  So, Linux as an abstract entity is not eligible, and neither is Linus as a penguin.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With the exception of the literary prize , Nobel Prizes can only be awarded to living humans .
So , Linux as an abstract entity is not eligible , and neither is Linus as a penguin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With the exception of the literary prize, Nobel Prizes can only be awarded to living humans.
So, Linux as an abstract entity is not eligible, and neither is Linus as a penguin.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174680</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173816</id>
	<title>Goodists</title>
	<author>Jodka</author>
	<datestamp>1258743300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linus seems unlikely to win the award because he is not a "Goodist."  Even if you do agree with the Bret Stephens's characterization of the majority of Nobel Peace Prize winners as "Goodists" be sure to catch his <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704429304574467080047317314.html" title="wsj.com"> October, 12 column</a> [wsj.com] in the Wall Street Journal for the Onionesque but factual photo caption "Japan agrees to outlaw war in 1929, shortly before invading Manchuria."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus seems unlikely to win the award because he is not a " Goodist .
" Even if you do agree with the Bret Stephens 's characterization of the majority of Nobel Peace Prize winners as " Goodists " be sure to catch his October , 12 column [ wsj.com ] in the Wall Street Journal for the Onionesque but factual photo caption " Japan agrees to outlaw war in 1929 , shortly before invading Manchuria .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus seems unlikely to win the award because he is not a "Goodist.
"  Even if you do agree with the Bret Stephens's characterization of the majority of Nobel Peace Prize winners as "Goodists" be sure to catch his  October, 12 column [wsj.com] in the Wall Street Journal for the Onionesque but factual photo caption "Japan agrees to outlaw war in 1929, shortly before invading Manchuria.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173568</id>
	<title>Not exactly peace.</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1258742340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is there no prize for lifetime achievement in progress of humanity? Especially technological one?</p><p>That would be much more appropriate.</p><p>Linus is not exactly <em>the</em> peaceful guy. E.g. if you ever have asked him about his opinion on CVS. ^^<br>I respect him though. And only with standing behind even your strong opinions can you lead. Which he does, even if they are not nice.<br>But peace is not exactly the right word here. ^^</p><p>I think even Linus would agree to that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is there no prize for lifetime achievement in progress of humanity ?
Especially technological one ? That would be much more appropriate.Linus is not exactly the peaceful guy .
E.g. if you ever have asked him about his opinion on CVS .
^ ^ I respect him though .
And only with standing behind even your strong opinions can you lead .
Which he does , even if they are not nice.But peace is not exactly the right word here .
^ ^ I think even Linus would agree to that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is there no prize for lifetime achievement in progress of humanity?
Especially technological one?That would be much more appropriate.Linus is not exactly the peaceful guy.
E.g. if you ever have asked him about his opinion on CVS.
^^I respect him though.
And only with standing behind even your strong opinions can you lead.
Which he does, even if they are not nice.But peace is not exactly the right word here.
^^I think even Linus would agree to that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172924</id>
	<title>Re:That's GNU/Linux, you insensitive clod!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258739940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hear he's working on an alternative called 'GNU/BELL Recursive Abstracted Mandatory Passivity Award'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hear he 's working on an alternative called 'GNU/BELL Recursive Abstracted Mandatory Passivity Award' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hear he's working on an alternative called 'GNU/BELL Recursive Abstracted Mandatory Passivity Award'.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172756</id>
	<title>LKML</title>
	<author>daceaser</author>
	<datestamp>1258739400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Peace prize? They plainly haven't been reading the LKML at the Nobel Institute...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Peace prize ?
They plainly have n't been reading the LKML at the Nobel Institute.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Peace prize?
They plainly haven't been reading the LKML at the Nobel Institute...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173882</id>
	<title>Re:Why not?</title>
	<author>jdcope</author>
	<datestamp>1258743540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm sure that at some point in his tenure as King of Linux he will do things worthy of the Nobel Peace prize.  Let's just give it to him now to get it out of the way.</p></div><p>Seems that was the reasoning for the most recent recipient.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure that at some point in his tenure as King of Linux he will do things worthy of the Nobel Peace prize .
Let 's just give it to him now to get it out of the way.Seems that was the reasoning for the most recent recipient .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure that at some point in his tenure as King of Linux he will do things worthy of the Nobel Peace prize.
Let's just give it to him now to get it out of the way.Seems that was the reasoning for the most recent recipient.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173130</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>sixoh1</author>
	<datestamp>1258740660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nobel laureate would certainly be a good way to reward a man who has done something far more extraordinary than anything BillG or the Steve's ever did - without the benefit of a corporation (note MS needed IBM to be where it is) or a formal product (the Steve's SOLD hardware) and created a world-class operating system.</p><p>Not only that, he is still there, still writing code, corralling the cats and making progress in developing, instead of just cashing in.</p><p>This is in my not so humble opinion the ultimate leadership by example - and it can and has been applied to thousands of other projects.  Richard Stallman may have "invented" open source - Linus made it real for everyone, from greedy businessman to naive undergraduate CS student.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobel laureate would certainly be a good way to reward a man who has done something far more extraordinary than anything BillG or the Steve 's ever did - without the benefit of a corporation ( note MS needed IBM to be where it is ) or a formal product ( the Steve 's SOLD hardware ) and created a world-class operating system.Not only that , he is still there , still writing code , corralling the cats and making progress in developing , instead of just cashing in.This is in my not so humble opinion the ultimate leadership by example - and it can and has been applied to thousands of other projects .
Richard Stallman may have " invented " open source - Linus made it real for everyone , from greedy businessman to naive undergraduate CS student .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobel laureate would certainly be a good way to reward a man who has done something far more extraordinary than anything BillG or the Steve's ever did - without the benefit of a corporation (note MS needed IBM to be where it is) or a formal product (the Steve's SOLD hardware) and created a world-class operating system.Not only that, he is still there, still writing code, corralling the cats and making progress in developing, instead of just cashing in.This is in my not so humble opinion the ultimate leadership by example - and it can and has been applied to thousands of other projects.
Richard Stallman may have "invented" open source - Linus made it real for everyone, from greedy businessman to naive undergraduate CS student.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30181312</id>
	<title>N0b3l P3@c3 Pr1z3</title>
	<author>New\_Guy\_Here</author>
	<datestamp>1258731900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>in service to mankind for his long and unfaltering battle with the evil empire that is "Microsoft"?

sounds like some folks over on the west coast are losing track of reality.

Linux is cool, but I dont see how his contribution has made mankind better off.</htmltext>
<tokenext>in service to mankind for his long and unfaltering battle with the evil empire that is " Microsoft " ?
sounds like some folks over on the west coast are losing track of reality .
Linux is cool , but I dont see how his contribution has made mankind better off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in service to mankind for his long and unfaltering battle with the evil empire that is "Microsoft"?
sounds like some folks over on the west coast are losing track of reality.
Linux is cool, but I dont see how his contribution has made mankind better off.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173632</id>
	<title>Re:Sure, why not?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258742580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Considering the amount of time and money that Gates has put into philanthropy, I think that someone could make a decent argument for Gates, or at least the Gates Foundation to receive the Peace Prize.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering the amount of time and money that Gates has put into philanthropy , I think that someone could make a decent argument for Gates , or at least the Gates Foundation to receive the Peace Prize .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering the amount of time and money that Gates has put into philanthropy, I think that someone could make a decent argument for Gates, or at least the Gates Foundation to receive the Peace Prize.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30177862</id>
	<title>Re:Sure, why not?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258713720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>His charity still isn't enough to make up for fucking up computing big time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>His charity still is n't enough to make up for fucking up computing big time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>His charity still isn't enough to make up for fucking up computing big time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172698</id>
	<title>"Stuff that Matters"</title>
	<author>MarkvW</author>
	<datestamp>1258739220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does this suggest that Bill Gates and Paul Allen should also get the Nobel Peace Prize?<br>Or, does it suggest that they should get the War Prize?<br>What about the guy who invented Minix?  Should he get the prize too?</p><p>I know I'm responding to a troll article, but I can't help it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this suggest that Bill Gates and Paul Allen should also get the Nobel Peace Prize ? Or , does it suggest that they should get the War Prize ? What about the guy who invented Minix ?
Should he get the prize too ? I know I 'm responding to a troll article , but I ca n't help it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this suggest that Bill Gates and Paul Allen should also get the Nobel Peace Prize?Or, does it suggest that they should get the War Prize?What about the guy who invented Minix?
Should he get the prize too?I know I'm responding to a troll article, but I can't help it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174150</id>
	<title>the nobel peace prize should be discontinued</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1258744380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the nobel peace prize has entered the realm of farce (arafat, kissinger, and obama for smiling nicely) and has destroyed its legitimacy</p><p>of course, maybe the whole idea was doomed from the start as a flawed idea</p><p>perhaps the prize should be reconstituted as a way to recognize truly deserving underappreciated efforts, such as microlending in poor areas or water purification projects. in other words: no matinee idols or celebrities need apply. this would rule out deserving celebrities like nelson mandela, but it would also rule out the likes of kissinger and arafat. no more stunt prizes like obama's</p><p>a prize only for the truly anonymous makes a heck of a lot more sense actually in the realm of what it really means to labor for peace selflessly, which is true peacemaking anyways</p><p>so if not discontinued, the prize should be reconsituted with strict guidelines as a prize for the truly anonymous</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the nobel peace prize has entered the realm of farce ( arafat , kissinger , and obama for smiling nicely ) and has destroyed its legitimacyof course , maybe the whole idea was doomed from the start as a flawed ideaperhaps the prize should be reconstituted as a way to recognize truly deserving underappreciated efforts , such as microlending in poor areas or water purification projects .
in other words : no matinee idols or celebrities need apply .
this would rule out deserving celebrities like nelson mandela , but it would also rule out the likes of kissinger and arafat .
no more stunt prizes like obama'sa prize only for the truly anonymous makes a heck of a lot more sense actually in the realm of what it really means to labor for peace selflessly , which is true peacemaking anywaysso if not discontinued , the prize should be reconsituted with strict guidelines as a prize for the truly anonymous</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the nobel peace prize has entered the realm of farce (arafat, kissinger, and obama for smiling nicely) and has destroyed its legitimacyof course, maybe the whole idea was doomed from the start as a flawed ideaperhaps the prize should be reconstituted as a way to recognize truly deserving underappreciated efforts, such as microlending in poor areas or water purification projects.
in other words: no matinee idols or celebrities need apply.
this would rule out deserving celebrities like nelson mandela, but it would also rule out the likes of kissinger and arafat.
no more stunt prizes like obama'sa prize only for the truly anonymous makes a heck of a lot more sense actually in the realm of what it really means to labor for peace selflessly, which is true peacemaking anywaysso if not discontinued, the prize should be reconsituted with strict guidelines as a prize for the truly anonymous</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30175168</id>
	<title>As much as Torvalds did...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258747680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... for open source, when it comes to a nobel peace prize I'd say Stallman deserves it more. Without that guy, we wouldn't even know about open source. With the open source movement derived from the free software movement, and the Linux kernel "just" being the last part in the GNU OS, it's really Stallman/the FSF that should be considered instead.</p><p>One can't deny Torvald's effect on the free software movement, of course: delivering the missing part to the GNU OS was critical. One might argue that Torvalds' contributions were more important.</p><p>Then again, this is the Nobel Peace Prize we're talking about. Sharing and sharing alike is a concept for peaceful cooperation that the open source community does not strictly speaking support. That's a free software concept, and far more deserving of any prize with the name "peace" in it than a movement that "just" stands for the quality you can achieve through massive peer review.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... for open source , when it comes to a nobel peace prize I 'd say Stallman deserves it more .
Without that guy , we would n't even know about open source .
With the open source movement derived from the free software movement , and the Linux kernel " just " being the last part in the GNU OS , it 's really Stallman/the FSF that should be considered instead.One ca n't deny Torvald 's effect on the free software movement , of course : delivering the missing part to the GNU OS was critical .
One might argue that Torvalds ' contributions were more important.Then again , this is the Nobel Peace Prize we 're talking about .
Sharing and sharing alike is a concept for peaceful cooperation that the open source community does not strictly speaking support .
That 's a free software concept , and far more deserving of any prize with the name " peace " in it than a movement that " just " stands for the quality you can achieve through massive peer review .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... for open source, when it comes to a nobel peace prize I'd say Stallman deserves it more.
Without that guy, we wouldn't even know about open source.
With the open source movement derived from the free software movement, and the Linux kernel "just" being the last part in the GNU OS, it's really Stallman/the FSF that should be considered instead.One can't deny Torvald's effect on the free software movement, of course: delivering the missing part to the GNU OS was critical.
One might argue that Torvalds' contributions were more important.Then again, this is the Nobel Peace Prize we're talking about.
Sharing and sharing alike is a concept for peaceful cooperation that the open source community does not strictly speaking support.
That's a free software concept, and far more deserving of any prize with the name "peace" in it than a movement that "just" stands for the quality you can achieve through massive peer review.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172518</id>
	<title>Why not?</title>
	<author>Xebikr</author>
	<datestamp>1258738740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sure that at some point in his tenure as King of Linux he will do things worthy of the Nobel Peace prize.  Let's just give it to him now to get it out of the way.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure that at some point in his tenure as King of Linux he will do things worthy of the Nobel Peace prize .
Let 's just give it to him now to get it out of the way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure that at some point in his tenure as King of Linux he will do things worthy of the Nobel Peace prize.
Let's just give it to him now to get it out of the way.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174342</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>b4upoo</author>
	<datestamp>1258744980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>        Linus also aided a movement that helps to reduce radical capitalism as a social concept. In fact that may lead to a more peaceful world. Regardless of the thinking of those in the open source community they do have a political influence which may be more substantial than they ever realized much less intended.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus also aided a movement that helps to reduce radical capitalism as a social concept .
In fact that may lead to a more peaceful world .
Regardless of the thinking of those in the open source community they do have a political influence which may be more substantial than they ever realized much less intended .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>        Linus also aided a movement that helps to reduce radical capitalism as a social concept.
In fact that may lead to a more peaceful world.
Regardless of the thinking of those in the open source community they do have a political influence which may be more substantial than they ever realized much less intended.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172504</id>
	<title>He deserves it</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1258738680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I come from 2051, in a timeline where Linux didn't exist. You don't want to hear about the Microsoft vs Apple netwar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I come from 2051 , in a timeline where Linux did n't exist .
You do n't want to hear about the Microsoft vs Apple netwar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I come from 2051, in a timeline where Linux didn't exist.
You don't want to hear about the Microsoft vs Apple netwar.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30179156</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>Draek</author>
	<datestamp>1258718640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Philosophy" not only sounds much nicer than "religion", it's far more accurate. Stallman doesn't argue that you should worship the GPL as your only God because He commands so, he simply states that using it and similar Free Software licenses will lead to a better world for everybody. Agree with him or not, that can hardly be called "religion", unless you have an axe to grind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Philosophy " not only sounds much nicer than " religion " , it 's far more accurate .
Stallman does n't argue that you should worship the GPL as your only God because He commands so , he simply states that using it and similar Free Software licenses will lead to a better world for everybody .
Agree with him or not , that can hardly be called " religion " , unless you have an axe to grind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Philosophy" not only sounds much nicer than "religion", it's far more accurate.
Stallman doesn't argue that you should worship the GPL as your only God because He commands so, he simply states that using it and similar Free Software licenses will lead to a better world for everybody.
Agree with him or not, that can hardly be called "religion", unless you have an axe to grind.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176748</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258710060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You only have to be influential to be Time's MoY (or Person, I think it now is).  You don't necessarily have to be honorable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You only have to be influential to be Time 's MoY ( or Person , I think it now is ) .
You do n't necessarily have to be honorable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You only have to be influential to be Time's MoY (or Person, I think it now is).
You don't necessarily have to be honorable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173448</id>
	<title>Hey, Obama won</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258741800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He is certainly more deserving than Obama, Gore or Arafat. Go Linus.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He is certainly more deserving than Obama , Gore or Arafat .
Go Linus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He is certainly more deserving than Obama, Gore or Arafat.
Go Linus.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174160</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>sbeckstead</author>
	<datestamp>1258744440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Stallman, for writing the GPL</i>
<br>
Yeah give the peace prize to a guy who wrote one of the most contentious documents in OSS history.  Right good one!  I like the way you think.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Stallman , for writing the GPL Yeah give the peace prize to a guy who wrote one of the most contentious documents in OSS history .
Right good one !
I like the way you think .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stallman, for writing the GPL

Yeah give the peace prize to a guy who wrote one of the most contentious documents in OSS history.
Right good one!
I like the way you think.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30177632</id>
	<title>Re:That's GNU/Linux, you insensitive clod!</title>
	<author>nycguy</author>
	<datestamp>1258712880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, he'd refuse it on the basis that he'd have to shower, shave and wear a suit to accept it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , he 'd refuse it on the basis that he 'd have to shower , shave and wear a suit to accept it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, he'd refuse it on the basis that he'd have to shower, shave and wear a suit to accept it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176212</id>
	<title>Cherchez la femme</title>
	<author>kaaona</author>
	<datestamp>1258708140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Behind every great man there stands a great woman."</p><p>If Linus is ever awarded the Nobel Peace Prize he'd have to hand it over to his wife who, if I recall correctly, was once a black belt karate champion in Finland. There's no doubt in my mind who keeps the peace in that family.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Behind every great man there stands a great woman .
" If Linus is ever awarded the Nobel Peace Prize he 'd have to hand it over to his wife who , if I recall correctly , was once a black belt karate champion in Finland .
There 's no doubt in my mind who keeps the peace in that family .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Behind every great man there stands a great woman.
"If Linus is ever awarded the Nobel Peace Prize he'd have to hand it over to his wife who, if I recall correctly, was once a black belt karate champion in Finland.
There's no doubt in my mind who keeps the peace in that family.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174666</id>
	<title>Re:That's GNU/Linux, you insensitive clod!</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1258746060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>...he would refuse it anyway, on the grounds that it wasn't called the "GNU/Nobel Peace Prize".</i></p><p>No, you're thinking of Richard Stallman. He'd also refuse on the basis that they might require him to shower for his acceptance speech.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...he would refuse it anyway , on the grounds that it was n't called the " GNU/Nobel Peace Prize " .No , you 're thinking of Richard Stallman .
He 'd also refuse on the basis that they might require him to shower for his acceptance speech .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...he would refuse it anyway, on the grounds that it wasn't called the "GNU/Nobel Peace Prize".No, you're thinking of Richard Stallman.
He'd also refuse on the basis that they might require him to shower for his acceptance speech.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30180194</id>
	<title>Why not?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258723740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They hand those out like candy anymore for merely having potential (seriously devaluing the award).  Give it to someone that has brought millions of programmers around the world to voluntarily give of themselves for the greater good... why not?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They hand those out like candy anymore for merely having potential ( seriously devaluing the award ) .
Give it to someone that has brought millions of programmers around the world to voluntarily give of themselves for the greater good... why not ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They hand those out like candy anymore for merely having potential (seriously devaluing the award).
Give it to someone that has brought millions of programmers around the world to voluntarily give of themselves for the greater good... why not?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30175586</id>
	<title>Re:He deserves it</title>
	<author>greenguy</author>
	<datestamp>1258748940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, thanks a lot for traveling back in time for the express purpose of not telling us anything useful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , thanks a lot for traveling back in time for the express purpose of not telling us anything useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, thanks a lot for traveling back in time for the express purpose of not telling us anything useful.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174260</id>
	<title>He could increase his chances...</title>
	<author>tomhath</author>
	<datestamp>1258744740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>by threatening to send his wife (a six-time Finnish national karate champion) in to beat the stuffing out of any of the Peace Prize committee members who vote against him.</htmltext>
<tokenext>by threatening to send his wife ( a six-time Finnish national karate champion ) in to beat the stuffing out of any of the Peace Prize committee members who vote against him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>by threatening to send his wife (a six-time Finnish national karate champion) in to beat the stuffing out of any of the Peace Prize committee members who vote against him.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30178346</id>
	<title>Re:Unfortunately Comp Sci isn't considered science</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258715280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>but the Nobel community doesn't consider computer science to be in the same spectrum as other traditional life or physic sciences.</p></div><p>More importantly: Alfred Nobel who donated the money did not have the faintest idea of what Comp Sci was going to be. Therefore he did not include that prize category in his will.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>but the Nobel community does n't consider computer science to be in the same spectrum as other traditional life or physic sciences.More importantly : Alfred Nobel who donated the money did not have the faintest idea of what Comp Sci was going to be .
Therefore he did not include that prize category in his will .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but the Nobel community doesn't consider computer science to be in the same spectrum as other traditional life or physic sciences.More importantly: Alfred Nobel who donated the money did not have the faintest idea of what Comp Sci was going to be.
Therefore he did not include that prize category in his will.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173672</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30177996</id>
	<title>Re:List his peace initiatives...</title>
	<author>14erCleaner</author>
	<datestamp>1258714140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The Dalai Llama</p></div><blockquote><div><p> <tt>The one-l lama,<br>He's a priest.<br>The two-l llama,<br>He's a beast.<br>And I will bet<br>A silk pajama<br>There isn't any<br>Three-l lllama.<br>-- Ogden Nash</tt></p></div> </blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Dalai Llama The one-l lama,He 's a priest.The two-l llama,He 's a beast.And I will betA silk pajamaThere is n't anyThree-l lllama.-- Ogden Nash</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Dalai Llama The one-l lama,He's a priest.The two-l llama,He's a beast.And I will betA silk pajamaThere isn't anyThree-l lllama.-- Ogden Nash 
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172762</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30175856</id>
	<title>Re:I would proudly vote for RMS</title>
	<author>onefriedrice</author>
	<datestamp>1258749840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That aside, I firmly believe that the GPL is the reason for the success of the Linux kernel and of GNU/Linux...  I think that there would have been far fewer contributions to the Linux kernel if its license did not provide equal access for all contributors.  A substantial part of Linux was written by commercial entities who would undoubtedly not be willing to invest in a product which their competition could build upon without contributing likewise in return.</p></div><p>This is a popular idea that just hasn't ever been substantiated.  It doesn't explain the many non-GPL'd, yet popular, projects which receive corporate support.  It also doesn't completely match with the fact that companies often release code under the Apache-2.0 license or a MIT/BSD type of license.<br> <br>

If the popularity of Linux is not due to its license as commonly believed without much evidence, it must be something else.  I suspect that it was (like DOS) placed just at the right place and time.  That's not to say that Linux is not a good kernel or that it doesn't make for a good operating system with the GNU userland, but like you say, there are more consistent options, like *BSD.<br> <br>

In short, I question the magnitude of credit you and others suggest RMS should be given for the general rise of free software.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That aside , I firmly believe that the GPL is the reason for the success of the Linux kernel and of GNU/Linux... I think that there would have been far fewer contributions to the Linux kernel if its license did not provide equal access for all contributors .
A substantial part of Linux was written by commercial entities who would undoubtedly not be willing to invest in a product which their competition could build upon without contributing likewise in return.This is a popular idea that just has n't ever been substantiated .
It does n't explain the many non-GPL 'd , yet popular , projects which receive corporate support .
It also does n't completely match with the fact that companies often release code under the Apache-2.0 license or a MIT/BSD type of license .
If the popularity of Linux is not due to its license as commonly believed without much evidence , it must be something else .
I suspect that it was ( like DOS ) placed just at the right place and time .
That 's not to say that Linux is not a good kernel or that it does n't make for a good operating system with the GNU userland , but like you say , there are more consistent options , like * BSD .
In short , I question the magnitude of credit you and others suggest RMS should be given for the general rise of free software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That aside, I firmly believe that the GPL is the reason for the success of the Linux kernel and of GNU/Linux...  I think that there would have been far fewer contributions to the Linux kernel if its license did not provide equal access for all contributors.
A substantial part of Linux was written by commercial entities who would undoubtedly not be willing to invest in a product which their competition could build upon without contributing likewise in return.This is a popular idea that just hasn't ever been substantiated.
It doesn't explain the many non-GPL'd, yet popular, projects which receive corporate support.
It also doesn't completely match with the fact that companies often release code under the Apache-2.0 license or a MIT/BSD type of license.
If the popularity of Linux is not due to its license as commonly believed without much evidence, it must be something else.
I suspect that it was (like DOS) placed just at the right place and time.
That's not to say that Linux is not a good kernel or that it doesn't make for a good operating system with the GNU userland, but like you say, there are more consistent options, like *BSD.
In short, I question the magnitude of credit you and others suggest RMS should be given for the general rise of free software.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173564</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174822</id>
	<title>Get a grip already.</title>
	<author>scanrate</author>
	<datestamp>1258746480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172804</id>
	<title>Why Insult him with that?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258739520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Would you want the same award given to Arafat and George Ryan?<br> <br>

Seriously, if you want to honor him, make is something meaningful.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would you want the same award given to Arafat and George Ryan ?
Seriously , if you want to honor him , make is something meaningful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would you want the same award given to Arafat and George Ryan?
Seriously, if you want to honor him, make is something meaningful.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30183514</id>
	<title>Re:Can we stop with the Obama comparisons?</title>
	<author>TheLuggs</author>
	<datestamp>1258809900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Also as a matter of international peace having a US President who doesn't think that bombing everything is a solution and doesn't go to war due to Biblical verses,</p></div><p>Yup, Bush did nothing but bomb many, many countries.  Aside from fulfilling a lot of his campaign promises within his first year of office, that is.  And aside from the fact that we were attacked before we went to bomb (unless you buy into conspiracy theories only when it's about a President you don't like).  And aside from the fact that he actually viewed the terrorist wackos for what they really are - terrorist wackos.  And besides, Obama can't seem to make up his mind about anything, not even about the war in Afghanistan <i>that he said he supported and would finish.<i>  Unfortunately, I'm not sure he typically referred to winning, just "finishing."  What I am hoping to not happen is another Vietnam.</i> </i> </p></div><p>the US invasion of Iraq was probably one of the worst choices made since Vietnam... wel actually worse than Vietnam, because Bush did know (at least should have known) what happened in Vietnam. But in case you haven't noticed, but Iraq not only already is a second Vietnam, before long you will wish it was just a second Vietnam:<br>
1) Iraqs involvement in the 9-11 attacks were marginal at best.<br>
2) There were no WMD. <br>
3) US gets caught up in civil war between several parties wich only seem to agree on that the US is the bigger enemy<br>
4) The invasion diverted forces from afghanistan, weakening the effort there.<br>
5) The invasion fueled criticism that US wnat war against islam, further hindering efforts in afghanistan.<br>
6) The was in Iraq is bleeding the US economy, each day the war goes on is a win for al qaeda<br>

With no end in sight, and withdrawal would mean that the effort is wasted. Iraq is a huge sinkhole and the US is caught in it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Also as a matter of international peace having a US President who does n't think that bombing everything is a solution and does n't go to war due to Biblical verses,Yup , Bush did nothing but bomb many , many countries .
Aside from fulfilling a lot of his campaign promises within his first year of office , that is .
And aside from the fact that we were attacked before we went to bomb ( unless you buy into conspiracy theories only when it 's about a President you do n't like ) .
And aside from the fact that he actually viewed the terrorist wackos for what they really are - terrorist wackos .
And besides , Obama ca n't seem to make up his mind about anything , not even about the war in Afghanistan that he said he supported and would finish .
Unfortunately , I 'm not sure he typically referred to winning , just " finishing .
" What I am hoping to not happen is another Vietnam .
the US invasion of Iraq was probably one of the worst choices made since Vietnam... wel actually worse than Vietnam , because Bush did know ( at least should have known ) what happened in Vietnam .
But in case you have n't noticed , but Iraq not only already is a second Vietnam , before long you will wish it was just a second Vietnam : 1 ) Iraqs involvement in the 9-11 attacks were marginal at best .
2 ) There were no WMD .
3 ) US gets caught up in civil war between several parties wich only seem to agree on that the US is the bigger enemy 4 ) The invasion diverted forces from afghanistan , weakening the effort there .
5 ) The invasion fueled criticism that US wnat war against islam , further hindering efforts in afghanistan .
6 ) The was in Iraq is bleeding the US economy , each day the war goes on is a win for al qaeda With no end in sight , and withdrawal would mean that the effort is wasted .
Iraq is a huge sinkhole and the US is caught in it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also as a matter of international peace having a US President who doesn't think that bombing everything is a solution and doesn't go to war due to Biblical verses,Yup, Bush did nothing but bomb many, many countries.
Aside from fulfilling a lot of his campaign promises within his first year of office, that is.
And aside from the fact that we were attacked before we went to bomb (unless you buy into conspiracy theories only when it's about a President you don't like).
And aside from the fact that he actually viewed the terrorist wackos for what they really are - terrorist wackos.
And besides, Obama can't seem to make up his mind about anything, not even about the war in Afghanistan that he said he supported and would finish.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure he typically referred to winning, just "finishing.
"  What I am hoping to not happen is another Vietnam.
the US invasion of Iraq was probably one of the worst choices made since Vietnam... wel actually worse than Vietnam, because Bush did know (at least should have known) what happened in Vietnam.
But in case you haven't noticed, but Iraq not only already is a second Vietnam, before long you will wish it was just a second Vietnam:
1) Iraqs involvement in the 9-11 attacks were marginal at best.
2) There were no WMD.
3) US gets caught up in civil war between several parties wich only seem to agree on that the US is the bigger enemy
4) The invasion diverted forces from afghanistan, weakening the effort there.
5) The invasion fueled criticism that US wnat war against islam, further hindering efforts in afghanistan.
6) The was in Iraq is bleeding the US economy, each day the war goes on is a win for al qaeda

With no end in sight, and withdrawal would mean that the effort is wasted.
Iraq is a huge sinkhole and the US is caught in it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173818</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172714</id>
	<title>You know...why not?</title>
	<author>wandazulu</author>
	<datestamp>1258739280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've always been interested in seeing how computers get used in the far-flung parts of the world, and between OLPC and websites showing off pics of tribemen using Linux on laptops to check prices, weather info, etc., it would seem that Linux has made a difference both in the "developed" world as well as the places where computers may not be as prevalent.</p><p>Certainly it stands to reason that not everyone needs access to email, say, but everyone would like to know whether it's going to rain tomorrow, and there may not be a local radio or tv station to provide that info, but a computer with some sort of internet access could. So if I'm only going to use a computer once in a blue moon, or if I'm one who provides computers to folks who only need an extremely limited data set, why not be Linux? It's totally dependable and, most importantly, it's free. This is critical when the local economy may rely more on bartering and the exchange of physical goods for services; I can't imagine Microsoft would be willing to sell Windows for a few dozen eggs.</p><p>So yes, I'd be behind such an honor; the whole point of the Nobel Peace prize is to award people who have made other lives better, and providing the platform on which anyone, anywhere can build upon to provide anything, at the most local level, I can't see how this *doesn't* qualify.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've always been interested in seeing how computers get used in the far-flung parts of the world , and between OLPC and websites showing off pics of tribemen using Linux on laptops to check prices , weather info , etc. , it would seem that Linux has made a difference both in the " developed " world as well as the places where computers may not be as prevalent.Certainly it stands to reason that not everyone needs access to email , say , but everyone would like to know whether it 's going to rain tomorrow , and there may not be a local radio or tv station to provide that info , but a computer with some sort of internet access could .
So if I 'm only going to use a computer once in a blue moon , or if I 'm one who provides computers to folks who only need an extremely limited data set , why not be Linux ?
It 's totally dependable and , most importantly , it 's free .
This is critical when the local economy may rely more on bartering and the exchange of physical goods for services ; I ca n't imagine Microsoft would be willing to sell Windows for a few dozen eggs.So yes , I 'd be behind such an honor ; the whole point of the Nobel Peace prize is to award people who have made other lives better , and providing the platform on which anyone , anywhere can build upon to provide anything , at the most local level , I ca n't see how this * does n't * qualify .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've always been interested in seeing how computers get used in the far-flung parts of the world, and between OLPC and websites showing off pics of tribemen using Linux on laptops to check prices, weather info, etc., it would seem that Linux has made a difference both in the "developed" world as well as the places where computers may not be as prevalent.Certainly it stands to reason that not everyone needs access to email, say, but everyone would like to know whether it's going to rain tomorrow, and there may not be a local radio or tv station to provide that info, but a computer with some sort of internet access could.
So if I'm only going to use a computer once in a blue moon, or if I'm one who provides computers to folks who only need an extremely limited data set, why not be Linux?
It's totally dependable and, most importantly, it's free.
This is critical when the local economy may rely more on bartering and the exchange of physical goods for services; I can't imagine Microsoft would be willing to sell Windows for a few dozen eggs.So yes, I'd be behind such an honor; the whole point of the Nobel Peace prize is to award people who have made other lives better, and providing the platform on which anyone, anywhere can build upon to provide anything, at the most local level, I can't see how this *doesn't* qualify.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173922</id>
	<title>No - Linus has actually accomplished something</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258743660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Doesn't that disqualify him these days?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't that disqualify him these days ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't that disqualify him these days?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173868</id>
	<title>LMFAO</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258743480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You open source people crack me up. Next thing you will tell me is Obama deserves a Nobel Peace Prize.<br>
Oh, wait. Nevermind.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You open source people crack me up .
Next thing you will tell me is Obama deserves a Nobel Peace Prize .
Oh , wait .
Nevermind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You open source people crack me up.
Next thing you will tell me is Obama deserves a Nobel Peace Prize.
Oh, wait.
Nevermind.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173018</id>
	<title>My unrelated suggestion...</title>
	<author>feranick</author>
	<datestamp>1258740240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Greg Mortenson really deserves it. <br>http://www.gregmortenson.com/</htmltext>
<tokenext>Greg Mortenson really deserves it .
http : //www.gregmortenson.com/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Greg Mortenson really deserves it.
http://www.gregmortenson.com/</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30173004</id>
	<title>Re:Linux Peace Prize?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258740120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>More importantly, the Peace Prize is not given just for creating positive change. It is given specifically for improving relations between nations, reducing standing armies, and promoting peace congresses. While that is interpreted loosely - especially in recent years, giving it to a software developer would be a huge jump. In a sense, it would be like giving the Peace Prize to the manufacturer of the hammer that was first used on the Berlin Wall.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>More importantly , the Peace Prize is not given just for creating positive change .
It is given specifically for improving relations between nations , reducing standing armies , and promoting peace congresses .
While that is interpreted loosely - especially in recent years , giving it to a software developer would be a huge jump .
In a sense , it would be like giving the Peace Prize to the manufacturer of the hammer that was first used on the Berlin Wall .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More importantly, the Peace Prize is not given just for creating positive change.
It is given specifically for improving relations between nations, reducing standing armies, and promoting peace congresses.
While that is interpreted loosely - especially in recent years, giving it to a software developer would be a huge jump.
In a sense, it would be like giving the Peace Prize to the manufacturer of the hammer that was first used on the Berlin Wall.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172544</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172646</id>
	<title>Why doubt?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258739040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If President Obama can recieve a Nobel prize for things he promised to do, within a year of when he started, then Linus Turvalds, who helped built the crucial basis for technology that will last as long as computers exist, should've gotten a prize almost twenty years ago.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If President Obama can recieve a Nobel prize for things he promised to do , within a year of when he started , then Linus Turvalds , who helped built the crucial basis for technology that will last as long as computers exist , should 've gotten a prize almost twenty years ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If President Obama can recieve a Nobel prize for things he promised to do, within a year of when he started, then Linus Turvalds, who helped built the crucial basis for technology that will last as long as computers exist, should've gotten a prize almost twenty years ago.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30176470</id>
	<title>It's really easy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258708980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>linus@penguinmaster:~/$export LD\_LIBRARY\_PATH="$LD\_LIBRARY\_PATH:/home/linus/awards/nobel/peaceprize"<br>
linus@penguinmaster:~/$./configure --prefix=/usr<br>
linus@penguinmaster:~/$make<br>
linus@penguinmaster:~/$make install</htmltext>
<tokenext>linus @ penguinmaster : ~ / $ export LD \ _LIBRARY \ _PATH = " $ LD \ _LIBRARY \ _PATH : /home/linus/awards/nobel/peaceprize " linus @ penguinmaster : ~ / $ ./configure --prefix = /usr linus @ penguinmaster : ~ / $ make linus @ penguinmaster : ~ / $ make install</tokentext>
<sentencetext>linus@penguinmaster:~/$export LD\_LIBRARY\_PATH="$LD\_LIBRARY\_PATH:/home/linus/awards/nobel/peaceprize"
linus@penguinmaster:~/$./configure --prefix=/usr
linus@penguinmaster:~/$make
linus@penguinmaster:~/$make install</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172724</id>
	<title>Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258739280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It strikes me that a lot of good is being done by this body. Plus there's more to come. So it strikes me that Bill might be in line first, or maybe a shared one with Bill, Linus and Tim Berners-Lee or something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It strikes me that a lot of good is being done by this body .
Plus there 's more to come .
So it strikes me that Bill might be in line first , or maybe a shared one with Bill , Linus and Tim Berners-Lee or something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It strikes me that a lot of good is being done by this body.
Plus there's more to come.
So it strikes me that Bill might be in line first, or maybe a shared one with Bill, Linus and Tim Berners-Lee or something.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30172632</id>
	<title>Sure, why not?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258738980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>After all, he's not George Bush either.  Or perhaps it's that he's not Bill Gates.  *snark*</htmltext>
<tokenext>After all , he 's not George Bush either .
Or perhaps it 's that he 's not Bill Gates .
* snark *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After all, he's not George Bush either.
Or perhaps it's that he's not Bill Gates.
*snark*</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30178182</id>
	<title>Really?</title>
	<author>dokhebi</author>
	<datestamp>1258714740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like what Torvalds has done, but after the Nobel Committee have awarded Peace Prizes to the likes of Arafat, Gore, and Obama I no longer believe they live in the same world as the rest of us.</p><p>Of course this is just my $0.02 worth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like what Torvalds has done , but after the Nobel Committee have awarded Peace Prizes to the likes of Arafat , Gore , and Obama I no longer believe they live in the same world as the rest of us.Of course this is just my $ 0.02 worth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like what Torvalds has done, but after the Nobel Committee have awarded Peace Prizes to the likes of Arafat, Gore, and Obama I no longer believe they live in the same world as the rest of us.Of course this is just my $0.02 worth.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_20_1352234.30174856</id>
	<title>Re:That's GNU/Linux, you insensitive clod!</title>
	<author>Penguinisto</author>
	<datestamp>1258746720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>err, guys? I was talking about RMS (read the GP post<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) ).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>err , guys ?
I was talking about RMS ( read the GP post ; ) ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>err, guys?
I was talking about RMS (read the GP post ;) ).</sentencetext>
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