<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_19_1941222</id>
	<title>Google Releases Source To Chromium OS</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1258617720000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Kelson writes <i>"Google has <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/releasing-chromium-os-open-source.html?utm\_source=feedburner&amp;utm\_medium=feed&amp;utm\_campaign=Feed\%3A+blogspot\%2FMKuf+(Official+Google+Blog)">released the source to what will eventually become Chrome OS</a>, and will begin developing it as an open source project like Chromium. The OS differs from the usual computing model by (1) making all apps web apps (2) sandboxing everything and (3) removing anything unnecessary, to focus on speed."</i> Reader Barence adds <i>"Google said consumers <a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/353458/google-chrome-os-full-details-unveiled">won't be able to download the operating system</a> &mdash; it will only be available on hardware that meets Google's specifications. Hard disks are banned, for instance, while Google said it will also specify factors such as screen sizes and display resolutions. Google said it plans to officially launch Chrome OS by the end of next year."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kelson writes " Google has released the source to what will eventually become Chrome OS , and will begin developing it as an open source project like Chromium .
The OS differs from the usual computing model by ( 1 ) making all apps web apps ( 2 ) sandboxing everything and ( 3 ) removing anything unnecessary , to focus on speed .
" Reader Barence adds " Google said consumers wo n't be able to download the operating system    it will only be available on hardware that meets Google 's specifications .
Hard disks are banned , for instance , while Google said it will also specify factors such as screen sizes and display resolutions .
Google said it plans to officially launch Chrome OS by the end of next year .
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<sentencetext>Kelson writes "Google has released the source to what will eventually become Chrome OS, and will begin developing it as an open source project like Chromium.
The OS differs from the usual computing model by (1) making all apps web apps (2) sandboxing everything and (3) removing anything unnecessary, to focus on speed.
" Reader Barence adds "Google said consumers won't be able to download the operating system — it will only be available on hardware that meets Google's specifications.
Hard disks are banned, for instance, while Google said it will also specify factors such as screen sizes and display resolutions.
Google said it plans to officially launch Chrome OS by the end of next year.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164378</id>
	<title>Re:Going back to sleep now...</title>
	<author>That's Unpossible!</author>
	<datestamp>1258628100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh, so you hated thin clients 25 years ago, and now you could never use one of those, right?</p><p><a href="http://www.apple.com/iphone/" title="apple.com">Who would ever want to use a small device that has no hard drive, downloads applications from the cloud, and is web-centric?</a> [apple.com]</p><p>Things change.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , so you hated thin clients 25 years ago , and now you could never use one of those , right ? Who would ever want to use a small device that has no hard drive , downloads applications from the cloud , and is web-centric ?
[ apple.com ] Things change .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, so you hated thin clients 25 years ago, and now you could never use one of those, right?Who would ever want to use a small device that has no hard drive, downloads applications from the cloud, and is web-centric?
[apple.com]Things change.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163982</id>
	<title>Does online-only include offline support?</title>
	<author>nigham</author>
	<datestamp>1258626900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google's been pushing offline support pretty strongly on a number of devices.

It would be a real waste if my computer were inoperable if the network were down. There's no reason I shouldn't be able to play chess, or write a document or take notes when I'm on a plane or far away from civilization. Even phones have airplane modes these days.

I wonder if there is any sort of a file system at all on the Chrome OS. If not, it will be raise the bar for writing apps (even with offline mode support) since you simply have to write code to sync data as well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google 's been pushing offline support pretty strongly on a number of devices .
It would be a real waste if my computer were inoperable if the network were down .
There 's no reason I should n't be able to play chess , or write a document or take notes when I 'm on a plane or far away from civilization .
Even phones have airplane modes these days .
I wonder if there is any sort of a file system at all on the Chrome OS .
If not , it will be raise the bar for writing apps ( even with offline mode support ) since you simply have to write code to sync data as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google's been pushing offline support pretty strongly on a number of devices.
It would be a real waste if my computer were inoperable if the network were down.
There's no reason I shouldn't be able to play chess, or write a document or take notes when I'm on a plane or far away from civilization.
Even phones have airplane modes these days.
I wonder if there is any sort of a file system at all on the Chrome OS.
If not, it will be raise the bar for writing apps (even with offline mode support) since you simply have to write code to sync data as well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164286</id>
	<title>Re:Going back to sleep now...</title>
	<author>hey!</author>
	<datestamp>1258627740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OK, have you heard of Google Gears?</p><p>I'm guessing that's part of the strategy here.  Just because the apps are "web apps" doesn't mean this has to be a thin client.  The apps can run locally an synchronize data when network is available.</p><p>In any case, a thin client might not be such a bad thing.  Google pretty much has made its business out of succeeding at things others have tried, but getting the details and timing right.</p><p>Timing is everything in tech products.  You might have the right solution, but unless the other things are aligned, you're spitting into the win. What has changed since the the early 90s when the thin client idea was first floated? Plenty.  And plenty has happened in the past several years that makes thin clients -- especially ones that can replicate apps off the net -- attractive.  Wifi is ubiquitous, and lots of people are buying data plans for their smart phones -- carriers are even offering bundles with "free" netbooks.</p><p>Why is Google doing Android? Because their future depends on a world with ubiquitous, cheap, net-neutral wireless access they can sell services over.  With iPhone mopping up the competition in the smartphone arena, Google has an opportunity to sell a phone that is open -- unlike Windows Mobile -- and that reinforces the future it prefers.  I'll bet ChromiumOS is aimed at the same problem: enticing the carriers into the commodity bandwidth game.</p><p>Think about how nicely something like that would work with GSM.   Let's say that where you don't have coverage, it still works though something like Gears. When you do, your data gets backed up to Google.   When you drop your Chromium netbook, you take the SIM out and buy a new one for $299; or maybe get a swap replacement as the old one gets fixed. In any case its like nothing happened. If you accidentally delete your thesis, or it is deleted by malware, or of somebody steals your netbook and deletes all your work, a backup is stored on Google's mighty data storage network.   That's another key to the puzzle: Google's ability to manage vast amounts of data is one of its competitive advantages, and another reason they prefer a world of cheap networking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , have you heard of Google Gears ? I 'm guessing that 's part of the strategy here .
Just because the apps are " web apps " does n't mean this has to be a thin client .
The apps can run locally an synchronize data when network is available.In any case , a thin client might not be such a bad thing .
Google pretty much has made its business out of succeeding at things others have tried , but getting the details and timing right.Timing is everything in tech products .
You might have the right solution , but unless the other things are aligned , you 're spitting into the win .
What has changed since the the early 90s when the thin client idea was first floated ?
Plenty. And plenty has happened in the past several years that makes thin clients -- especially ones that can replicate apps off the net -- attractive .
Wifi is ubiquitous , and lots of people are buying data plans for their smart phones -- carriers are even offering bundles with " free " netbooks.Why is Google doing Android ?
Because their future depends on a world with ubiquitous , cheap , net-neutral wireless access they can sell services over .
With iPhone mopping up the competition in the smartphone arena , Google has an opportunity to sell a phone that is open -- unlike Windows Mobile -- and that reinforces the future it prefers .
I 'll bet ChromiumOS is aimed at the same problem : enticing the carriers into the commodity bandwidth game.Think about how nicely something like that would work with GSM .
Let 's say that where you do n't have coverage , it still works though something like Gears .
When you do , your data gets backed up to Google .
When you drop your Chromium netbook , you take the SIM out and buy a new one for $ 299 ; or maybe get a swap replacement as the old one gets fixed .
In any case its like nothing happened .
If you accidentally delete your thesis , or it is deleted by malware , or of somebody steals your netbook and deletes all your work , a backup is stored on Google 's mighty data storage network .
That 's another key to the puzzle : Google 's ability to manage vast amounts of data is one of its competitive advantages , and another reason they prefer a world of cheap networking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, have you heard of Google Gears?I'm guessing that's part of the strategy here.
Just because the apps are "web apps" doesn't mean this has to be a thin client.
The apps can run locally an synchronize data when network is available.In any case, a thin client might not be such a bad thing.
Google pretty much has made its business out of succeeding at things others have tried, but getting the details and timing right.Timing is everything in tech products.
You might have the right solution, but unless the other things are aligned, you're spitting into the win.
What has changed since the the early 90s when the thin client idea was first floated?
Plenty.  And plenty has happened in the past several years that makes thin clients -- especially ones that can replicate apps off the net -- attractive.
Wifi is ubiquitous, and lots of people are buying data plans for their smart phones -- carriers are even offering bundles with "free" netbooks.Why is Google doing Android?
Because their future depends on a world with ubiquitous, cheap, net-neutral wireless access they can sell services over.
With iPhone mopping up the competition in the smartphone arena, Google has an opportunity to sell a phone that is open -- unlike Windows Mobile -- and that reinforces the future it prefers.
I'll bet ChromiumOS is aimed at the same problem: enticing the carriers into the commodity bandwidth game.Think about how nicely something like that would work with GSM.
Let's say that where you don't have coverage, it still works though something like Gears.
When you do, your data gets backed up to Google.
When you drop your Chromium netbook, you take the SIM out and buy a new one for $299; or maybe get a swap replacement as the old one gets fixed.
In any case its like nothing happened.
If you accidentally delete your thesis, or it is deleted by malware, or of somebody steals your netbook and deletes all your work, a backup is stored on Google's mighty data storage network.
That's another key to the puzzle: Google's ability to manage vast amounts of data is one of its competitive advantages, and another reason they prefer a world of cheap networking.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164696</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>smoker2</author>
	<datestamp>1258629120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Welcome to the new apple, just like the old apple but with the internet !<br>Welcome to the age of appliances, and if you think that's a good thing for general purpose computing (not to mention computing literacy), you must have more money than sense.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to the new apple , just like the old apple but with the internet ! Welcome to the age of appliances , and if you think that 's a good thing for general purpose computing ( not to mention computing literacy ) , you must have more money than sense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to the new apple, just like the old apple but with the internet !Welcome to the age of appliances, and if you think that's a good thing for general purpose computing (not to mention computing literacy), you must have more money than sense.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162462</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30169646</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258718700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> &gt;&gt;For likely 90\% of home users, this will be perfect.</p><p>&gt;No way. A very large segment of home users need iTunes to sync</p><p>Mark this funny, please!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; For likely 90 \ % of home users , this will be perfect. &gt; No way .
A very large segment of home users need iTunes to syncMark this funny , please !</tokentext>
<sentencetext> &gt;&gt;For likely 90\% of home users, this will be perfect.&gt;No way.
A very large segment of home users need iTunes to syncMark this funny, please!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164706</id>
	<title>Re:Enforcement?</title>
	<author>XaXXon</author>
	<datestamp>1258629120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Trademarks.  You have to be licensed to market something as a chrome os netbook.</p><p>You can make your own, but you can't call it chrome.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Trademarks .
You have to be licensed to market something as a chrome os netbook.You can make your own , but you ca n't call it chrome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Trademarks.
You have to be licensed to market something as a chrome os netbook.You can make your own, but you can't call it chrome.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164092</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>bonch</author>
	<datestamp>1258627140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So why would you need Chrome OS to run web apps?  A Linux distro already runs them on top of supporting native apps.  I just don't see a use for this other than Google's continued branching out into non-core markets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So why would you need Chrome OS to run web apps ?
A Linux distro already runs them on top of supporting native apps .
I just do n't see a use for this other than Google 's continued branching out into non-core markets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So why would you need Chrome OS to run web apps?
A Linux distro already runs them on top of supporting native apps.
I just don't see a use for this other than Google's continued branching out into non-core markets.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162532</id>
	<title>Key Piece of Information (it's only for netbooks!)</title>
	<author>NapalmScatterBrain</author>
	<datestamp>1258622520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is being targeted at netbooks and ONLY netbooks.  They are expecting customers to be folks who already own a main computer for dedicated application needs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is being targeted at netbooks and ONLY netbooks .
They are expecting customers to be folks who already own a main computer for dedicated application needs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is being targeted at netbooks and ONLY netbooks.
They are expecting customers to be folks who already own a main computer for dedicated application needs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162282</id>
	<title>restrictions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258621680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>If it's open source, the only enforcement they'll have over things like hard drives being banned, screen size restrictions, only web apps, etc. will be control of their trademarks.  If Chrome offers something sufficiently compelling that people want to run it on "noncompliant" hardware, or run non-web-apps, they will fork it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's open source , the only enforcement they 'll have over things like hard drives being banned , screen size restrictions , only web apps , etc .
will be control of their trademarks .
If Chrome offers something sufficiently compelling that people want to run it on " noncompliant " hardware , or run non-web-apps , they will fork it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's open source, the only enforcement they'll have over things like hard drives being banned, screen size restrictions, only web apps, etc.
will be control of their trademarks.
If Chrome offers something sufficiently compelling that people want to run it on "noncompliant" hardware, or run non-web-apps, they will fork it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164192</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>vux984</author>
	<datestamp>1258627500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>But this will be useful in some cases (3rd world education, your grandparents, etc) where all your need are webapps, like Gmail, Google Docs, etc. Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.</i></p><p>My grandma has an ipod and a digital camera. Most of her friends have at least one of these too. My other grandparents also use their computer to run quickbooks. Now my wife's grandmother is quite a bit older than my grandparents... but she doesn't have a computer, nor any interest in one.</p><p>The 3rd world doesn't have reliable web access. The OLPC project is a much better solution there, even with its faults.</p><p>So who exactly is the 'etc' you referred to?</p><p>Its pretty hard to imagine a niche where this would be useful. Pretty much every household that has a computer has an mp3 player and/or digital camera in it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But this will be useful in some cases ( 3rd world education , your grandparents , etc ) where all your need are webapps , like Gmail , Google Docs , etc .
Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.My grandma has an ipod and a digital camera .
Most of her friends have at least one of these too .
My other grandparents also use their computer to run quickbooks .
Now my wife 's grandmother is quite a bit older than my grandparents... but she does n't have a computer , nor any interest in one.The 3rd world does n't have reliable web access .
The OLPC project is a much better solution there , even with its faults.So who exactly is the 'etc ' you referred to ? Its pretty hard to imagine a niche where this would be useful .
Pretty much every household that has a computer has an mp3 player and/or digital camera in it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But this will be useful in some cases (3rd world education, your grandparents, etc) where all your need are webapps, like Gmail, Google Docs, etc.
Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.My grandma has an ipod and a digital camera.
Most of her friends have at least one of these too.
My other grandparents also use their computer to run quickbooks.
Now my wife's grandmother is quite a bit older than my grandparents... but she doesn't have a computer, nor any interest in one.The 3rd world doesn't have reliable web access.
The OLPC project is a much better solution there, even with its faults.So who exactly is the 'etc' you referred to?Its pretty hard to imagine a niche where this would be useful.
Pretty much every household that has a computer has an mp3 player and/or digital camera in it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162610</id>
	<title>Sounds like Apple...or am I wrong?</title>
	<author>bogaboga</author>
	<datestamp>1258622760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> "Google said consumers won't be able to download the operating system -- it will only be available on hardware that meets Google's specifications. Hard disks are banned, for instance, while Google said it will also specify factors such as screen sizes and display resolutions. Google said it plans to officially launch Chrome OS by the end of next year."</p></div><p>So I cannot even store my favorite pictures on the device because everything had to be stored in the "cloud?" What if I am to go upcountry?</p><p>I would like to see opinions of coders on Google's product. Any ideas?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Google said consumers wo n't be able to download the operating system -- it will only be available on hardware that meets Google 's specifications .
Hard disks are banned , for instance , while Google said it will also specify factors such as screen sizes and display resolutions .
Google said it plans to officially launch Chrome OS by the end of next year .
" So I can not even store my favorite pictures on the device because everything had to be stored in the " cloud ?
" What if I am to go upcountry ? I would like to see opinions of coders on Google 's product .
Any ideas ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "Google said consumers won't be able to download the operating system -- it will only be available on hardware that meets Google's specifications.
Hard disks are banned, for instance, while Google said it will also specify factors such as screen sizes and display resolutions.
Google said it plans to officially launch Chrome OS by the end of next year.
"So I cannot even store my favorite pictures on the device because everything had to be stored in the "cloud?
" What if I am to go upcountry?I would like to see opinions of coders on Google's product.
Any ideas?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167710</id>
	<title>No local storage? What about multimedia?</title>
	<author>cheesecake23</author>
	<datestamp>1258647840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think my mom is a typical Joe Sixpack computer user. She uses Firefox to access Gmail and read some newspapers. Chromium would be great if this was all she did. However, she also uses the computer to store and view her photos. Does Google seriously want us to upload all this data to the cloud? Several gigabytes every time you empty your camera or digital camcorder? What's Google's plan for multimedia?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think my mom is a typical Joe Sixpack computer user .
She uses Firefox to access Gmail and read some newspapers .
Chromium would be great if this was all she did .
However , she also uses the computer to store and view her photos .
Does Google seriously want us to upload all this data to the cloud ?
Several gigabytes every time you empty your camera or digital camcorder ?
What 's Google 's plan for multimedia ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think my mom is a typical Joe Sixpack computer user.
She uses Firefox to access Gmail and read some newspapers.
Chromium would be great if this was all she did.
However, she also uses the computer to store and view her photos.
Does Google seriously want us to upload all this data to the cloud?
Several gigabytes every time you empty your camera or digital camcorder?
What's Google's plan for multimedia?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30168846</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>prockcore</author>
	<datestamp>1258749720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A very large segment of home users play casual flash games already.. and one of the video demos of Chrome OS shows a user taking photos off their camera.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A very large segment of home users play casual flash games already.. and one of the video demos of Chrome OS shows a user taking photos off their camera .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A very large segment of home users play casual flash games already.. and one of the video demos of Chrome OS shows a user taking photos off their camera.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162542</id>
	<title>You insensitive cloud!</title>
	<author>w0mprat</author>
	<datestamp>1258622580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hard disks banned? I can't decide if this is a bad thing, it could be interesting model of computing outside the cloud. For example, an offline desktop experience could be provided by a local or lan server that uses web protocols. I'm sure the community will do some really intesting things with this freshly opened source.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hard disks banned ?
I ca n't decide if this is a bad thing , it could be interesting model of computing outside the cloud .
For example , an offline desktop experience could be provided by a local or lan server that uses web protocols .
I 'm sure the community will do some really intesting things with this freshly opened source .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hard disks banned?
I can't decide if this is a bad thing, it could be interesting model of computing outside the cloud.
For example, an offline desktop experience could be provided by a local or lan server that uses web protocols.
I'm sure the community will do some really intesting things with this freshly opened source.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30177598</id>
	<title>iTunes? usbmuxd.html running? :)</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1258712700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple can't and won't port iTunes to Chrome OS since they won't be able to run their own schemes of communicating with their devices.</p><p>iTunes.html can be done, usbmuxd.html can't.</p><p>In theory, if there is enough market, Apple can release iTunes for Linux, a closed source binary but on a WebOS, they can't even if they want to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple ca n't and wo n't port iTunes to Chrome OS since they wo n't be able to run their own schemes of communicating with their devices.iTunes.html can be done , usbmuxd.html ca n't.In theory , if there is enough market , Apple can release iTunes for Linux , a closed source binary but on a WebOS , they ca n't even if they want to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple can't and won't port iTunes to Chrome OS since they won't be able to run their own schemes of communicating with their devices.iTunes.html can be done, usbmuxd.html can't.In theory, if there is enough market, Apple can release iTunes for Linux, a closed source binary but on a WebOS, they can't even if they want to.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30200280</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>ReeceTarbert</author>
	<datestamp>1258972800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is the infamous network appliance made real.</p></div><p>As I see it, if we concentrate on the software rather than the hardware, the model that springs to mind is SaaS.
</p><p>
Of course Google is not going to ask for money as such, and I expect the markup on the <i>official netbooks</i> for Chrome OS will be microscopic, but an ever increasing audience for targeted advertising is still worth a lot of money.
</p><p>
Anyway, I wrote a lot more about it <a href="http://www.zitellotonnato.com/2009/11/chrome-os-looks-cool-but-smells-of.html" title="zitellotonnato.com" rel="nofollow">here</a> [zitellotonnato.com] -- in case anyone cares...
</p><p>

RT.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the infamous network appliance made real.As I see it , if we concentrate on the software rather than the hardware , the model that springs to mind is SaaS .
Of course Google is not going to ask for money as such , and I expect the markup on the official netbooks for Chrome OS will be microscopic , but an ever increasing audience for targeted advertising is still worth a lot of money .
Anyway , I wrote a lot more about it here [ zitellotonnato.com ] -- in case anyone cares.. . RT .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the infamous network appliance made real.As I see it, if we concentrate on the software rather than the hardware, the model that springs to mind is SaaS.
Of course Google is not going to ask for money as such, and I expect the markup on the official netbooks for Chrome OS will be microscopic, but an ever increasing audience for targeted advertising is still worth a lot of money.
Anyway, I wrote a lot more about it here [zitellotonnato.com] -- in case anyone cares...


RT.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162782</id>
	<title>Re:Open Source?</title>
	<author>stefanlasiewski</author>
	<datestamp>1258623360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>consumers won't be able to download the operating system</i> </p><p>What kind of open source is this if you can't download it?</p></div><p>It's the kind of open source where you download the source and compile it. I believe that the Chromium license allows redistribution.</p><p>Do you download binary kernels from Kernel.org, for example? No, you probably download and compile the source from kernel.org, or you wait for someone else to provide binaries for you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>consumers wo n't be able to download the operating system What kind of open source is this if you ca n't download it ? It 's the kind of open source where you download the source and compile it .
I believe that the Chromium license allows redistribution.Do you download binary kernels from Kernel.org , for example ?
No , you probably download and compile the source from kernel.org , or you wait for someone else to provide binaries for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> consumers won't be able to download the operating system What kind of open source is this if you can't download it?It's the kind of open source where you download the source and compile it.
I believe that the Chromium license allows redistribution.Do you download binary kernels from Kernel.org, for example?
No, you probably download and compile the source from kernel.org, or you wait for someone else to provide binaries for you.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164460</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>ajs</author>
	<datestamp>1258628340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No way.  A very large segment of home users need iTunes to sync with their iPod and iPhone</p></div><p>If Chrome OS is successful enough, Apple will port iTunes just as they have to Windows, but of course, Android devices will be able to talk to Chrome OS because they already use this model.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>play video games</p></div><p>Games will come. Obviously, there are a ton of Web games already, but they don't yet have a browser that exposes accelerated graphics out of the box. Chrome will have to provide that under Chrome OS, but I don't believe they've talked about that yet.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>take photos off their cameras</p></div><p>Chrome OS won't stop you from doing so, and will talk to your Picasa or Flikr account just fine.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>work from home</p></div><p>I already use a Web-based SSL VPN to connect to work. Companies that use Google Apps or other co-located cloud infrastructure will be able to access the full suite of work mail/chat/documents/etc from Chrome OS, plus specific apps for things like shell access to remote servers will obviously be coming (Google is full of geeks who will demand it, no doubt).</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I'd say this is perfect for no more than 50\% of home users.</p></div><p>As you note, that's a staggering market, but I think it's an underestimation based on your assumption that remote office, photography and music won't be fully supported. I would contest that, and think they've made their goals clear in this respect. Gaming is still up in the air, but they're not stupid, and I'm sure they've considered the need.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No way .
A very large segment of home users need iTunes to sync with their iPod and iPhoneIf Chrome OS is successful enough , Apple will port iTunes just as they have to Windows , but of course , Android devices will be able to talk to Chrome OS because they already use this model.play video gamesGames will come .
Obviously , there are a ton of Web games already , but they do n't yet have a browser that exposes accelerated graphics out of the box .
Chrome will have to provide that under Chrome OS , but I do n't believe they 've talked about that yet.take photos off their camerasChrome OS wo n't stop you from doing so , and will talk to your Picasa or Flikr account just fine.work from homeI already use a Web-based SSL VPN to connect to work .
Companies that use Google Apps or other co-located cloud infrastructure will be able to access the full suite of work mail/chat/documents/etc from Chrome OS , plus specific apps for things like shell access to remote servers will obviously be coming ( Google is full of geeks who will demand it , no doubt ) .I 'd say this is perfect for no more than 50 \ % of home users.As you note , that 's a staggering market , but I think it 's an underestimation based on your assumption that remote office , photography and music wo n't be fully supported .
I would contest that , and think they 've made their goals clear in this respect .
Gaming is still up in the air , but they 're not stupid , and I 'm sure they 've considered the need .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No way.
A very large segment of home users need iTunes to sync with their iPod and iPhoneIf Chrome OS is successful enough, Apple will port iTunes just as they have to Windows, but of course, Android devices will be able to talk to Chrome OS because they already use this model.play video gamesGames will come.
Obviously, there are a ton of Web games already, but they don't yet have a browser that exposes accelerated graphics out of the box.
Chrome will have to provide that under Chrome OS, but I don't believe they've talked about that yet.take photos off their camerasChrome OS won't stop you from doing so, and will talk to your Picasa or Flikr account just fine.work from homeI already use a Web-based SSL VPN to connect to work.
Companies that use Google Apps or other co-located cloud infrastructure will be able to access the full suite of work mail/chat/documents/etc from Chrome OS, plus specific apps for things like shell access to remote servers will obviously be coming (Google is full of geeks who will demand it, no doubt).I'd say this is perfect for no more than 50\% of home users.As you note, that's a staggering market, but I think it's an underestimation based on your assumption that remote office, photography and music won't be fully supported.
I would contest that, and think they've made their goals clear in this respect.
Gaming is still up in the air, but they're not stupid, and I'm sure they've considered the need.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30169148</id>
	<title>FUCK YOU I WANT TO PLAY GAMES ON MY 'PUTER</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258711860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>AND NOT NO FUCKING SOLITAIRE!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>AND NOT NO FUCKING SOLITAIRE !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AND NOT NO FUCKING SOLITAIRE!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30171818</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258735980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bingo. The whole cloud thing seems to be based on the idea that end-user hardware is expensive and bandwidth is very cheap, uncapped and ubiquitous. Where on Earth is that true?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bingo .
The whole cloud thing seems to be based on the idea that end-user hardware is expensive and bandwidth is very cheap , uncapped and ubiquitous .
Where on Earth is that true ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bingo.
The whole cloud thing seems to be based on the idea that end-user hardware is expensive and bandwidth is very cheap, uncapped and ubiquitous.
Where on Earth is that true?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163482</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258625400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Everything runs in the cloud? Hard disks are banned? Wow, they are aggressively pursuing their thirst for all of the world's data. No thank you.</p></div><p>Because Google is the only one that ever has or ever will offer any web site/application of any significance. And of course this using a browser for everything instead of running applications will never catch on. What a silly concept that's totally dead.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everything runs in the cloud ?
Hard disks are banned ?
Wow , they are aggressively pursuing their thirst for all of the world 's data .
No thank you.Because Google is the only one that ever has or ever will offer any web site/application of any significance .
And of course this using a browser for everything instead of running applications will never catch on .
What a silly concept that 's totally dead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everything runs in the cloud?
Hard disks are banned?
Wow, they are aggressively pursuing their thirst for all of the world's data.
No thank you.Because Google is the only one that ever has or ever will offer any web site/application of any significance.
And of course this using a browser for everything instead of running applications will never catch on.
What a silly concept that's totally dead.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162908</id>
	<title>Re:Open Source?</title>
	<author>TopSpin</author>
	<datestamp>1258623900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Open source means just that; open <b>source</b>.  The source code is readily available to anyone.  It does not necessarily follow that configured, built, regression tested binary images are available for download. Of course Chrome OS is open source; it's based on GPL 2 Linux kernel, GNU libraries, Google's open source Chromium browser, which is in turn based on webkit, etc.; Google is obligated to make the source available for most of that and even the parts for which they are not obligated (it's not all GPL) they're providing anyhow. None of this means that the built binary images for any particular device must also be provided by Google.</p><p>If you have the wit to obtain the source, and configure, build and install the resulting images then you're free to do so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Open source means just that ; open source .
The source code is readily available to anyone .
It does not necessarily follow that configured , built , regression tested binary images are available for download .
Of course Chrome OS is open source ; it 's based on GPL 2 Linux kernel , GNU libraries , Google 's open source Chromium browser , which is in turn based on webkit , etc .
; Google is obligated to make the source available for most of that and even the parts for which they are not obligated ( it 's not all GPL ) they 're providing anyhow .
None of this means that the built binary images for any particular device must also be provided by Google.If you have the wit to obtain the source , and configure , build and install the resulting images then you 're free to do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Open source means just that; open source.
The source code is readily available to anyone.
It does not necessarily follow that configured, built, regression tested binary images are available for download.
Of course Chrome OS is open source; it's based on GPL 2 Linux kernel, GNU libraries, Google's open source Chromium browser, which is in turn based on webkit, etc.
; Google is obligated to make the source available for most of that and even the parts for which they are not obligated (it's not all GPL) they're providing anyhow.
None of this means that the built binary images for any particular device must also be provided by Google.If you have the wit to obtain the source, and configure, build and install the resulting images then you're free to do so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30174330</id>
	<title>Re:Enforcement?</title>
	<author>hbr</author>
	<datestamp>1258744920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe it will be a bit like the RedHat/CentOS relationship - if you want to redistribute it (modified or otherwise) then you have to remove all the trademarks/graphics, etc.</p><p>I.e. only google will get to call what they distribute "chromeOS", and everyone else will have to call their compilation "slightlyshineyOS" or somesuch.  "chromeOS" will enforce the no hard-drive rule, and "slightlyshineyOS" will not have to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe it will be a bit like the RedHat/CentOS relationship - if you want to redistribute it ( modified or otherwise ) then you have to remove all the trademarks/graphics , etc.I.e .
only google will get to call what they distribute " chromeOS " , and everyone else will have to call their compilation " slightlyshineyOS " or somesuch .
" chromeOS " will enforce the no hard-drive rule , and " slightlyshineyOS " will not have to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe it will be a bit like the RedHat/CentOS relationship - if you want to redistribute it (modified or otherwise) then you have to remove all the trademarks/graphics, etc.I.e.
only google will get to call what they distribute "chromeOS", and everyone else will have to call their compilation "slightlyshineyOS" or somesuch.
"chromeOS" will enforce the no hard-drive rule, and "slightlyshineyOS" will not have to.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162658</id>
	<title>Re:DOA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258622880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not sure that's true.  Google has been promoting offline syncing for someof their products (Calendar, Gmail, Reader)  These can be used with no network connection, but once the network comes back they sync up.  Any reason to think they wouldn't look to continue to support this capability?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure that 's true .
Google has been promoting offline syncing for someof their products ( Calendar , Gmail , Reader ) These can be used with no network connection , but once the network comes back they sync up .
Any reason to think they would n't look to continue to support this capability ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure that's true.
Google has been promoting offline syncing for someof their products (Calendar, Gmail, Reader)  These can be used with no network connection, but once the network comes back they sync up.
Any reason to think they wouldn't look to continue to support this capability?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162724</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>truthsearch</author>
	<datestamp>1258623120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A hardware vendor can already put a tiny installation of Linux + X11 + Firefox or Chrome on small flash drive.  Why make a new OS?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A hardware vendor can already put a tiny installation of Linux + X11 + Firefox or Chrome on small flash drive .
Why make a new OS ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A hardware vendor can already put a tiny installation of Linux + X11 + Firefox or Chrome on small flash drive.
Why make a new OS?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163174</id>
	<title>Re:restrictions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258624620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly!</p><p>Since they are deciding to be a bit prickish with respect to what it runs on and banning hard drives, i shall wait until someone else who is capable of forking it to allow such basic choices.</p><p>Why did they ban hard drives??<br>Are they seriously trying to do everything on their own servers?<br>What a bunch of tools.  Yeah, i'm calling Google tools, they are simply for this... idiocy.<br>What happened to you Google?  You used to be cool.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly ! Since they are deciding to be a bit prickish with respect to what it runs on and banning hard drives , i shall wait until someone else who is capable of forking it to allow such basic choices.Why did they ban hard drives ?
? Are they seriously trying to do everything on their own servers ? What a bunch of tools .
Yeah , i 'm calling Google tools , they are simply for this... idiocy.What happened to you Google ?
You used to be cool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly!Since they are deciding to be a bit prickish with respect to what it runs on and banning hard drives, i shall wait until someone else who is capable of forking it to allow such basic choices.Why did they ban hard drives?
?Are they seriously trying to do everything on their own servers?What a bunch of tools.
Yeah, i'm calling Google tools, they are simply for this... idiocy.What happened to you Google?
You used to be cool.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164918</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1258630080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think this generally won't be a replacement computer for most people.  Notice they're focussing on the netbook form factor for now.  It's going to be for people who have desktops (or bigger laptops that they don't like carrying around too much) to have an on-the-go computer with basic productivity (office suite, email, IM, web browser).
</p><p>Of course if they start moving for this to take over as everyone's main computer, they'll have to make some changes.  Taking photos off their camera is a pretty easy thing-- upload them to picassa automatically.  With something like iTunes, Google is going to either have to support big hard drives or provide a lot of online storage with free streaming and local caching.  Even with games, you could have a Steam-like service that only needs local storage for a cache.
</p><p>On the other hand, allowing such permissive downloading raises some problems, and some people are going to have real problems with any one of the solutions.  There could be a lot of piracy, which media companies and game developers won't like.  If Google doesn't want to allow that, they're going to have to use DRM, which will probably annoy a lot of potential customers.  If they don't want to use DRM, then they're going to have to monitor your downloads pretty carefully, which will really bother privacy advocates, who will already be upset at Google for having so much access to personal data.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think this generally wo n't be a replacement computer for most people .
Notice they 're focussing on the netbook form factor for now .
It 's going to be for people who have desktops ( or bigger laptops that they do n't like carrying around too much ) to have an on-the-go computer with basic productivity ( office suite , email , IM , web browser ) .
Of course if they start moving for this to take over as everyone 's main computer , they 'll have to make some changes .
Taking photos off their camera is a pretty easy thing-- upload them to picassa automatically .
With something like iTunes , Google is going to either have to support big hard drives or provide a lot of online storage with free streaming and local caching .
Even with games , you could have a Steam-like service that only needs local storage for a cache .
On the other hand , allowing such permissive downloading raises some problems , and some people are going to have real problems with any one of the solutions .
There could be a lot of piracy , which media companies and game developers wo n't like .
If Google does n't want to allow that , they 're going to have to use DRM , which will probably annoy a lot of potential customers .
If they do n't want to use DRM , then they 're going to have to monitor your downloads pretty carefully , which will really bother privacy advocates , who will already be upset at Google for having so much access to personal data .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think this generally won't be a replacement computer for most people.
Notice they're focussing on the netbook form factor for now.
It's going to be for people who have desktops (or bigger laptops that they don't like carrying around too much) to have an on-the-go computer with basic productivity (office suite, email, IM, web browser).
Of course if they start moving for this to take over as everyone's main computer, they'll have to make some changes.
Taking photos off their camera is a pretty easy thing-- upload them to picassa automatically.
With something like iTunes, Google is going to either have to support big hard drives or provide a lot of online storage with free streaming and local caching.
Even with games, you could have a Steam-like service that only needs local storage for a cache.
On the other hand, allowing such permissive downloading raises some problems, and some people are going to have real problems with any one of the solutions.
There could be a lot of piracy, which media companies and game developers won't like.
If Google doesn't want to allow that, they're going to have to use DRM, which will probably annoy a lot of potential customers.
If they don't want to use DRM, then they're going to have to monitor your downloads pretty carefully, which will really bother privacy advocates, who will already be upset at Google for having so much access to personal data.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167848</id>
	<title>Re:The future is already.</title>
	<author>evilviper</author>
	<datestamp>1258649400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Gmail wins mail.</p></div></blockquote><p>Yes it does, because it's one of the few free services usable via POP3.</p><p>The web interface is awkward and slow.  It's better than most other webmail interfaces, but it's still a pale imitation of a local MUA.</p><p>None of the other google apps is better than a local counterpart either.</p><p>Ever asked yourself why Google Earth is still a program you have to run on your local machine, when Google is so hot on web-apps?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Gmail wins mail.Yes it does , because it 's one of the few free services usable via POP3.The web interface is awkward and slow .
It 's better than most other webmail interfaces , but it 's still a pale imitation of a local MUA.None of the other google apps is better than a local counterpart either.Ever asked yourself why Google Earth is still a program you have to run on your local machine , when Google is so hot on web-apps ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gmail wins mail.Yes it does, because it's one of the few free services usable via POP3.The web interface is awkward and slow.
It's better than most other webmail interfaces, but it's still a pale imitation of a local MUA.None of the other google apps is better than a local counterpart either.Ever asked yourself why Google Earth is still a program you have to run on your local machine, when Google is so hot on web-apps?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163516</id>
	<title>Google Contradicts itself? Werid!</title>
	<author>Snyper1000</author>
	<datestamp>1258625520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it just me, or do the following 2 statements contradict one another?</p><p>    (1) making all apps web apps </p><p>    (3) removing anything unnecessary, to focus on speed."</p><p>

So you're focused on speed, but dont allow native code?  Seriously, what has happened to computer science degrees, and why are so many software engineers so freaking lazy (like using webapps for security rather than NATIVE security)???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it just me , or do the following 2 statements contradict one another ?
( 1 ) making all apps web apps ( 3 ) removing anything unnecessary , to focus on speed .
" So you 're focused on speed , but dont allow native code ?
Seriously , what has happened to computer science degrees , and why are so many software engineers so freaking lazy ( like using webapps for security rather than NATIVE security ) ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it just me, or do the following 2 statements contradict one another?
(1) making all apps web apps     (3) removing anything unnecessary, to focus on speed.
"

So you're focused on speed, but dont allow native code?
Seriously, what has happened to computer science degrees, and why are so many software engineers so freaking lazy (like using webapps for security rather than NATIVE security)??
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162906</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258623900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> For likely 90\% of home users, this will be perfect.</p></div><p>No way.  A very large segment of home users need iTunes to sync with their iPod and iPhone, play video games, take photos off their cameras, work from home, etc.</p><p>I'd say this is perfect for no more than 50\% of home users.  Of course that's still a big market, but not the vast majority.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For likely 90 \ % of home users , this will be perfect.No way .
A very large segment of home users need iTunes to sync with their iPod and iPhone , play video games , take photos off their cameras , work from home , etc.I 'd say this is perfect for no more than 50 \ % of home users .
Of course that 's still a big market , but not the vast majority .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> For likely 90\% of home users, this will be perfect.No way.
A very large segment of home users need iTunes to sync with their iPod and iPhone, play video games, take photos off their cameras, work from home, etc.I'd say this is perfect for no more than 50\% of home users.
Of course that's still a big market, but not the vast majority.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162372</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163348</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>Crystalmonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1258625040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How much bandwidth would that sort of thing require? I thought internet access was a major reason why they would include as much information on the laptop as possible...</htmltext>
<tokenext>How much bandwidth would that sort of thing require ?
I thought internet access was a major reason why they would include as much information on the laptop as possible.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much bandwidth would that sort of thing require?
I thought internet access was a major reason why they would include as much information on the laptop as possible...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162462</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163816</id>
	<title>Obligatory</title>
	<author>Tikkun</author>
	<datestamp>1258626480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No desktop apps. Less hard drive space than an iPod. Lame.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No desktop apps .
Less hard drive space than an iPod .
Lame .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No desktop apps.
Less hard drive space than an iPod.
Lame.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164312</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>bonch</author>
	<datestamp>1258627800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do people continue to be ignorant of the fact that Darwin is open source?</p><blockquote><div><p>Google builds good stuff, and they sell it on their systems or partners' systems, and you can STILL run in on anything you can make it work on, since they provide the source code.</p><p>So, yes -- Google good, Apple bad.</p></div></blockquote><p>I can't believe you're posting this in a discussion about an OS that is restricted to Google's browser, will be tied to Google web services, and will only run on Google-approved hardware.  Could your double standard be any huger?  Why don't you just admit that you love Google simply because they use Linux and throw the phrase "open source" around a lot (even though their search engine, the core of their business, remains as closed as ever)?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do people continue to be ignorant of the fact that Darwin is open source ? Google builds good stuff , and they sell it on their systems or partners ' systems , and you can STILL run in on anything you can make it work on , since they provide the source code.So , yes -- Google good , Apple bad.I ca n't believe you 're posting this in a discussion about an OS that is restricted to Google 's browser , will be tied to Google web services , and will only run on Google-approved hardware .
Could your double standard be any huger ?
Why do n't you just admit that you love Google simply because they use Linux and throw the phrase " open source " around a lot ( even though their search engine , the core of their business , remains as closed as ever ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do people continue to be ignorant of the fact that Darwin is open source?Google builds good stuff, and they sell it on their systems or partners' systems, and you can STILL run in on anything you can make it work on, since they provide the source code.So, yes -- Google good, Apple bad.I can't believe you're posting this in a discussion about an OS that is restricted to Google's browser, will be tied to Google web services, and will only run on Google-approved hardware.
Could your double standard be any huger?
Why don't you just admit that you love Google simply because they use Linux and throw the phrase "open source" around a lot (even though their search engine, the core of their business, remains as closed as ever)?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162698</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162574</id>
	<title>Re:restrictions</title>
	<author>Haxzaw</author>
	<datestamp>1258622700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unless the EULA says no.  Then it'll be the same as running Mac OSX on whatever you want.  I don't see a problem with running whatever OS I want on any piece of hardware I can get it to run on, but the companies, lawyers, judges, and fanboys disagree.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless the EULA says no .
Then it 'll be the same as running Mac OSX on whatever you want .
I do n't see a problem with running whatever OS I want on any piece of hardware I can get it to run on , but the companies , lawyers , judges , and fanboys disagree .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless the EULA says no.
Then it'll be the same as running Mac OSX on whatever you want.
I don't see a problem with running whatever OS I want on any piece of hardware I can get it to run on, but the companies, lawyers, judges, and fanboys disagree.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162282</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164064</id>
	<title>Hardrives are banned?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258627080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then where will the OS go? Does it always sit in the ram or is it on a small read-only chip, either way it will need some sort of memory to write to if they want to be able to distribute updates. Do they plan on streaming parts of the OS over the net? What if you need to check an old email and you are somewhere in the vast majority of the planet where there there is not wifi available to you at that instant, you can't just use offline mode like you can with a regular linux distribution? Also if Google is exerting all this control over which laptops can run it, this is just as bad as Apple. Even Microsoft lets you install Windows on any PC you want if it will work. It may be opensource, as in the source is viewable to others, but it is not "Free as in Speech" and as long as Google wants to use this OS simply as a means to lock you in and get access to all your information, I will NEVER USE CHROME OS! I want to be able to control which information Google can have, not make it an all or nothing deal. The only good news about the no hard drives is this could be Google's way of saying "G-Drive" will be ready next year,</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then where will the OS go ?
Does it always sit in the ram or is it on a small read-only chip , either way it will need some sort of memory to write to if they want to be able to distribute updates .
Do they plan on streaming parts of the OS over the net ?
What if you need to check an old email and you are somewhere in the vast majority of the planet where there there is not wifi available to you at that instant , you ca n't just use offline mode like you can with a regular linux distribution ?
Also if Google is exerting all this control over which laptops can run it , this is just as bad as Apple .
Even Microsoft lets you install Windows on any PC you want if it will work .
It may be opensource , as in the source is viewable to others , but it is not " Free as in Speech " and as long as Google wants to use this OS simply as a means to lock you in and get access to all your information , I will NEVER USE CHROME OS !
I want to be able to control which information Google can have , not make it an all or nothing deal .
The only good news about the no hard drives is this could be Google 's way of saying " G-Drive " will be ready next year,</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then where will the OS go?
Does it always sit in the ram or is it on a small read-only chip, either way it will need some sort of memory to write to if they want to be able to distribute updates.
Do they plan on streaming parts of the OS over the net?
What if you need to check an old email and you are somewhere in the vast majority of the planet where there there is not wifi available to you at that instant, you can't just use offline mode like you can with a regular linux distribution?
Also if Google is exerting all this control over which laptops can run it, this is just as bad as Apple.
Even Microsoft lets you install Windows on any PC you want if it will work.
It may be opensource, as in the source is viewable to others, but it is not "Free as in Speech" and as long as Google wants to use this OS simply as a means to lock you in and get access to all your information, I will NEVER USE CHROME OS!
I want to be able to control which information Google can have, not make it an all or nothing deal.
The only good news about the no hard drives is this could be Google's way of saying "G-Drive" will be ready next year,</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30174510</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258745520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd rather have them (apple) drive the OS and control their design. I can opt out anytime I wan't if I'm unhappy with them.  But I won't allow google or anyone else control my own data.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd rather have them ( apple ) drive the OS and control their design .
I can opt out anytime I wa n't if I 'm unhappy with them .
But I wo n't allow google or anyone else control my own data .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd rather have them (apple) drive the OS and control their design.
I can opt out anytime I wan't if I'm unhappy with them.
But I won't allow google or anyone else control my own data.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162698</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163358</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>CannonballHead</author>
	<datestamp>1258625100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except that I'm not sure 90\% of home users have network connectivity 100\% of the time with no down time.  Not everyone likes not being able to edit their documents just because Verizon flaked out for a day.</p><p>Unless they're doing a Google Gears thing, where you can edit your online documents offline...</p><p>In which case they are trying to make a thick client out of a thin client in an effort to promote a thin client<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... which<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... is confusing and seems to be a convoluted way to do things.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except that I 'm not sure 90 \ % of home users have network connectivity 100 \ % of the time with no down time .
Not everyone likes not being able to edit their documents just because Verizon flaked out for a day.Unless they 're doing a Google Gears thing , where you can edit your online documents offline...In which case they are trying to make a thick client out of a thin client in an effort to promote a thin client ... which ... is confusing and seems to be a convoluted way to do things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except that I'm not sure 90\% of home users have network connectivity 100\% of the time with no down time.
Not everyone likes not being able to edit their documents just because Verizon flaked out for a day.Unless they're doing a Google Gears thing, where you can edit your online documents offline...In which case they are trying to make a thick client out of a thin client in an effort to promote a thin client ... which ... is confusing and seems to be a convoluted way to do things.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162372</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165088</id>
	<title>upload and redownload every personal photo</title>
	<author>johncandale</author>
	<datestamp>1258630800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"OS effectively turns a netbook into a thin client. All applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be supported."<nobr> <wbr></nobr>::frowny face::<p>
"it's very simple to use, there's nothing to maintain. It should just work."
HA HA, oh wow. </p><p>
"All user data will be stored in the cloud, with the operating system only using local flash memory for caching data such as settings."</p><p>
Why?  I have good internet but it doesn't have 100\% uptime or no lag.    So every personal photo will be uploaded?  and if I want to edit it, re downloaded or at least a snap shot of it? Will the editing happen in the cloud, meaning lag before I see every crop and color adjustment? or will it download and have my low grade cpu do all the processing then reupload it every time? not to mention God help you if you have a porn collection like 99.9\% of guys with computers I know.  so all my legally bought and ripped dvds will have to be uploaded to a cloud? Then streamed back to me?</p><p>
"If your cloud is down it affects any computer you're on," he said. "I'd like to see a comparison of the cloud with what you have today. I think the cloud will compare very, very favorably."</p><p>
Ok now you are just lying through your teeth or are just really dumb [marketing].   I can work or play for hours without my internet plugged in, thank you.  Also my laptop does the same in or out of wi-fi.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" OS effectively turns a netbook into a thin client .
All applications will be web apps , all data will be stored in the cloud and the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be supported .
" : : frowny face : : " it 's very simple to use , there 's nothing to maintain .
It should just work .
" HA HA , oh wow .
" All user data will be stored in the cloud , with the operating system only using local flash memory for caching data such as settings .
" Why ?
I have good internet but it does n't have 100 \ % uptime or no lag .
So every personal photo will be uploaded ?
and if I want to edit it , re downloaded or at least a snap shot of it ?
Will the editing happen in the cloud , meaning lag before I see every crop and color adjustment ?
or will it download and have my low grade cpu do all the processing then reupload it every time ?
not to mention God help you if you have a porn collection like 99.9 \ % of guys with computers I know .
so all my legally bought and ripped dvds will have to be uploaded to a cloud ?
Then streamed back to me ?
" If your cloud is down it affects any computer you 're on , " he said .
" I 'd like to see a comparison of the cloud with what you have today .
I think the cloud will compare very , very favorably .
" Ok now you are just lying through your teeth or are just really dumb [ marketing ] .
I can work or play for hours without my internet plugged in , thank you .
Also my laptop does the same in or out of wi-fi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"OS effectively turns a netbook into a thin client.
All applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be supported.
" ::frowny face::
"it's very simple to use, there's nothing to maintain.
It should just work.
"
HA HA, oh wow.
"All user data will be stored in the cloud, with the operating system only using local flash memory for caching data such as settings.
"
Why?
I have good internet but it doesn't have 100\% uptime or no lag.
So every personal photo will be uploaded?
and if I want to edit it, re downloaded or at least a snap shot of it?
Will the editing happen in the cloud, meaning lag before I see every crop and color adjustment?
or will it download and have my low grade cpu do all the processing then reupload it every time?
not to mention God help you if you have a porn collection like 99.9\% of guys with computers I know.
so all my legally bought and ripped dvds will have to be uploaded to a cloud?
Then streamed back to me?
"If your cloud is down it affects any computer you're on," he said.
"I'd like to see a comparison of the cloud with what you have today.
I think the cloud will compare very, very favorably.
"
Ok now you are just lying through your teeth or are just really dumb [marketing].
I can work or play for hours without my internet plugged in, thank you.
Also my laptop does the same in or out of wi-fi.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167246</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258642440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>yep, there's gonna be a google appengine app for that</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yep , there 's gon na be a google appengine app for that</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yep, there's gonna be a google appengine app for that</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30168304</id>
	<title>Re:Don't trust developers.</title>
	<author>Akir</author>
	<datestamp>1258654320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This plan, of course, has been devised by our resident decision-engine, HAL 9000.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This plan , of course , has been devised by our resident decision-engine , HAL 9000 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This plan, of course, has been devised by our resident decision-engine, HAL 9000.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162794</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30173598</id>
	<title>Re:The future is already.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258742400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do the masses need to fear the harvesting of data from each and every bit supplied?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do the masses need to fear the harvesting of data from each and every bit supplied ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do the masses need to fear the harvesting of data from each and every bit supplied?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162900</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163720</id>
	<title>litl (though it's $700...)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258626180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe too early to be sure but it does sound very similar to <a href="http://litl.com/" title="litl.com" rel="nofollow">what I saw</a> [litl.com] on DF yesterday.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe too early to be sure but it does sound very similar to what I saw [ litl.com ] on DF yesterday .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe too early to be sure but it does sound very similar to what I saw [litl.com] on DF yesterday.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30169106</id>
	<title>Future for Chromium</title>
	<author>jdc18</author>
	<datestamp>1258711380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I dont see to much of a future of Chromium OS, yes google is behind that thing, but linux came first.  It will be hard to gain that terrain, and there is BSD.  I dont think they are going to be able to bit Windows.  And you are going to need internet everywhere you go.  Maybe i am wrong but i dont think the current internet connections are fast enought to allow you to access big files over the internet. How about big files like movies?
The only thing i can think of is that their target is netbooks in first world countries, and maybe hoping that in the next 5 years internet connections will speed up, so they can handle that huge amount of data transference.
Having everything in a cloud seems what technology is aiming in the future but it doesnt seems practical for me, at least for the next five years.  Maybe with Internet2 (yes i know is mainly for educational and research porpoises)or when everyone uses IPv6.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I dont see to much of a future of Chromium OS , yes google is behind that thing , but linux came first .
It will be hard to gain that terrain , and there is BSD .
I dont think they are going to be able to bit Windows .
And you are going to need internet everywhere you go .
Maybe i am wrong but i dont think the current internet connections are fast enought to allow you to access big files over the internet .
How about big files like movies ?
The only thing i can think of is that their target is netbooks in first world countries , and maybe hoping that in the next 5 years internet connections will speed up , so they can handle that huge amount of data transference .
Having everything in a cloud seems what technology is aiming in the future but it doesnt seems practical for me , at least for the next five years .
Maybe with Internet2 ( yes i know is mainly for educational and research porpoises ) or when everyone uses IPv6 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dont see to much of a future of Chromium OS, yes google is behind that thing, but linux came first.
It will be hard to gain that terrain, and there is BSD.
I dont think they are going to be able to bit Windows.
And you are going to need internet everywhere you go.
Maybe i am wrong but i dont think the current internet connections are fast enought to allow you to access big files over the internet.
How about big files like movies?
The only thing i can think of is that their target is netbooks in first world countries, and maybe hoping that in the next 5 years internet connections will speed up, so they can handle that huge amount of data transference.
Having everything in a cloud seems what technology is aiming in the future but it doesnt seems practical for me, at least for the next five years.
Maybe with Internet2 (yes i know is mainly for educational and research porpoises)or when everyone uses IPv6.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30169208</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258712460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Worst fears have materialized. Google is now officially evil, Microsoft can learn from them, they aren't masters of the dark anymore.</p><p>After looking into specs, it seems we have a first real example of TPM-based system with a secure bootloader a'la AEGIS. As a consequence, the security will be improved remarkably, however with a few caveats - Google will gain control over everything happening on the "terminal". But not only that, by forcing updates to the latest versions automatically (i.e. using the latest web service), it opens a pandora box of modifying the history/memory. There will be no trace of any information that will be banned from the system by anyone that controls it. And given some of the issues with TPM concept and the possibility of making censorship of the past information (removing undesired information from the search index or DNS resolution of Chrome OS), Google will be too powerful. Imagine government getting their hands on such a system - everything you do is monitored and you have chosen it voluntarily (because it's FREE!). Let's surf the wave(tm)!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Worst fears have materialized .
Google is now officially evil , Microsoft can learn from them , they are n't masters of the dark anymore.After looking into specs , it seems we have a first real example of TPM-based system with a secure bootloader a'la AEGIS .
As a consequence , the security will be improved remarkably , however with a few caveats - Google will gain control over everything happening on the " terminal " .
But not only that , by forcing updates to the latest versions automatically ( i.e .
using the latest web service ) , it opens a pandora box of modifying the history/memory .
There will be no trace of any information that will be banned from the system by anyone that controls it .
And given some of the issues with TPM concept and the possibility of making censorship of the past information ( removing undesired information from the search index or DNS resolution of Chrome OS ) , Google will be too powerful .
Imagine government getting their hands on such a system - everything you do is monitored and you have chosen it voluntarily ( because it 's FREE ! ) .
Let 's surf the wave ( tm ) !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Worst fears have materialized.
Google is now officially evil, Microsoft can learn from them, they aren't masters of the dark anymore.After looking into specs, it seems we have a first real example of TPM-based system with a secure bootloader a'la AEGIS.
As a consequence, the security will be improved remarkably, however with a few caveats - Google will gain control over everything happening on the "terminal".
But not only that, by forcing updates to the latest versions automatically (i.e.
using the latest web service), it opens a pandora box of modifying the history/memory.
There will be no trace of any information that will be banned from the system by anyone that controls it.
And given some of the issues with TPM concept and the possibility of making censorship of the past information (removing undesired information from the search index or DNS resolution of Chrome OS), Google will be too powerful.
Imagine government getting their hands on such a system - everything you do is monitored and you have chosen it voluntarily (because it's FREE!).
Let's surf the wave(tm)!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163666</id>
	<title>Re:Going back to sleep now...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258626000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I feel like the crowd here is overwhelmingly jaded by their previous experiences with "thin clients" and the like. Do any of you go outside? Have you seen a normal person use a computer in the last year? Guess what, they use the *gasp* internet for everything they do. I kid you not, the internet. Through a browser even. They communicate with people through webmail and facebook. They are entertained by hulu. They're productive through salesforce and other crap. And the use/100\% use of such things is spreading. The environment we're in now is different than it was before. This whole paperless thing is actually happening, not through some concentrated effort, but just because it's easier and better and the technology is slowly catching up. This is just one more piece to the puzzle, why is this so hard to see?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I feel like the crowd here is overwhelmingly jaded by their previous experiences with " thin clients " and the like .
Do any of you go outside ?
Have you seen a normal person use a computer in the last year ?
Guess what , they use the * gasp * internet for everything they do .
I kid you not , the internet .
Through a browser even .
They communicate with people through webmail and facebook .
They are entertained by hulu .
They 're productive through salesforce and other crap .
And the use/100 \ % use of such things is spreading .
The environment we 're in now is different than it was before .
This whole paperless thing is actually happening , not through some concentrated effort , but just because it 's easier and better and the technology is slowly catching up .
This is just one more piece to the puzzle , why is this so hard to see ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I feel like the crowd here is overwhelmingly jaded by their previous experiences with "thin clients" and the like.
Do any of you go outside?
Have you seen a normal person use a computer in the last year?
Guess what, they use the *gasp* internet for everything they do.
I kid you not, the internet.
Through a browser even.
They communicate with people through webmail and facebook.
They are entertained by hulu.
They're productive through salesforce and other crap.
And the use/100\% use of such things is spreading.
The environment we're in now is different than it was before.
This whole paperless thing is actually happening, not through some concentrated effort, but just because it's easier and better and the technology is slowly catching up.
This is just one more piece to the puzzle, why is this so hard to see?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163744</id>
	<title>Re:restrictions</title>
	<author>Aggrajag</author>
	<datestamp>1258626240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I watched the webcast and they (Google dudes) were actually encouraging forking and<br>gave some Chrome fork as an example.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I watched the webcast and they ( Google dudes ) were actually encouraging forking andgave some Chrome fork as an example .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I watched the webcast and they (Google dudes) were actually encouraging forking andgave some Chrome fork as an example.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162282</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165922</id>
	<title>Re:You can live in the cloud...</title>
	<author>jpmorgan</author>
	<datestamp>1258634340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Where does it say you can only use Google? I see no reason why you couldn't use Hotmail, Office Live and Bing, if you wanted to on such a device.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where does it say you can only use Google ?
I see no reason why you could n't use Hotmail , Office Live and Bing , if you wanted to on such a device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where does it say you can only use Google?
I see no reason why you couldn't use Hotmail, Office Live and Bing, if you wanted to on such a device.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162642</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163040</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258624260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Everything runs in the cloud? Hard disks are banned? Wow, they are aggressively pursuing their thirst for all of the world's data. No thank you.</p></div><p>Hello from the 1970s!  Yes, I agree... If I cannot carry my data around from room to room with my punch cards or my rolls of paper tape or my magnetic tapes... I don't trust all that newfangled stuff.<br>really...think about your quote and how funny it will appear in 2030</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everything runs in the cloud ?
Hard disks are banned ?
Wow , they are aggressively pursuing their thirst for all of the world 's data .
No thank you.Hello from the 1970s !
Yes , I agree... If I can not carry my data around from room to room with my punch cards or my rolls of paper tape or my magnetic tapes... I do n't trust all that newfangled stuff.really...think about your quote and how funny it will appear in 2030</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everything runs in the cloud?
Hard disks are banned?
Wow, they are aggressively pursuing their thirst for all of the world's data.
No thank you.Hello from the 1970s!
Yes, I agree... If I cannot carry my data around from room to room with my punch cards or my rolls of paper tape or my magnetic tapes... I don't trust all that newfangled stuff.really...think about your quote and how funny it will appear in 2030
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30168068</id>
	<title>Re:Going back to sleep now...</title>
	<author>sootman</author>
	<datestamp>1258651800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, I damn near stopped reading at that point too. Only sheer morbid curiosity kept me ging. FFS, less than THREE YEARS AGO Steve Jobs tried to pull that same crap with the iPhone. He said "Web apps only!" and "No SDK needed!" and developers around the world screamed, Apple relented, and now they make eleventy-billion dollars per second from the App Store. I am really REALLY surprised that Google is doing something this stupid. The fact that many people do MOST of their work on the web doesn't mean they can get by with doing ALL their work on the web. The non-web part is really important. It's like saying "Most people breathe 24 hours a day, so we think this new room which has air for 23 hours per day should be fine." Who the hell does Google think will buy this? There is NO teenager who lives ONLY on Facebook and MySpace. EVERYONE needs local apps. Seniors are always mentioned but evidently there aren't enough to keep a product afloat. Think there's a big market for a computer that is WORTHLESS without a Web connection? Ask the makers of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebTV" title="wikipedia.org">WebTV,</a> [wikipedia.org], the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-Opener" title="wikipedia.org">i-Opener,</a> [wikipedia.org] the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3Com\_Audrey" title="wikipedia.org">Audrey,</a> [wikipedia.org] or the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/EarthLink-Mivo-Cordless-E-mail-Appliance/dp/B00005O0KW" title="amazon.com">Mivo.</a> [amazon.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , I damn near stopped reading at that point too .
Only sheer morbid curiosity kept me ging .
FFS , less than THREE YEARS AGO Steve Jobs tried to pull that same crap with the iPhone .
He said " Web apps only !
" and " No SDK needed !
" and developers around the world screamed , Apple relented , and now they make eleventy-billion dollars per second from the App Store .
I am really REALLY surprised that Google is doing something this stupid .
The fact that many people do MOST of their work on the web does n't mean they can get by with doing ALL their work on the web .
The non-web part is really important .
It 's like saying " Most people breathe 24 hours a day , so we think this new room which has air for 23 hours per day should be fine .
" Who the hell does Google think will buy this ?
There is NO teenager who lives ONLY on Facebook and MySpace .
EVERYONE needs local apps .
Seniors are always mentioned but evidently there are n't enough to keep a product afloat .
Think there 's a big market for a computer that is WORTHLESS without a Web connection ?
Ask the makers of WebTV , [ wikipedia.org ] , the i-Opener , [ wikipedia.org ] the Audrey , [ wikipedia.org ] or the Mivo .
[ amazon.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I damn near stopped reading at that point too.
Only sheer morbid curiosity kept me ging.
FFS, less than THREE YEARS AGO Steve Jobs tried to pull that same crap with the iPhone.
He said "Web apps only!
" and "No SDK needed!
" and developers around the world screamed, Apple relented, and now they make eleventy-billion dollars per second from the App Store.
I am really REALLY surprised that Google is doing something this stupid.
The fact that many people do MOST of their work on the web doesn't mean they can get by with doing ALL their work on the web.
The non-web part is really important.
It's like saying "Most people breathe 24 hours a day, so we think this new room which has air for 23 hours per day should be fine.
" Who the hell does Google think will buy this?
There is NO teenager who lives ONLY on Facebook and MySpace.
EVERYONE needs local apps.
Seniors are always mentioned but evidently there aren't enough to keep a product afloat.
Think there's a big market for a computer that is WORTHLESS without a Web connection?
Ask the makers of WebTV, [wikipedia.org], the i-Opener, [wikipedia.org] the Audrey, [wikipedia.org] or the Mivo.
[amazon.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162308</id>
	<title>That's weird</title>
	<author>Useful Wheat</author>
	<datestamp>1258621800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder if this is doomed to become a niche operating system that doesn't even scratch the surface of the market. Preventing your most enthusiastic linux base from trying out your software unless they purchase a new computer will prevent a large majority of people from playing with Chrome. The main thing I'm afraid of is that we're brewing a new Apple. At least they're not going for the single mouse button (yet).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if this is doomed to become a niche operating system that does n't even scratch the surface of the market .
Preventing your most enthusiastic linux base from trying out your software unless they purchase a new computer will prevent a large majority of people from playing with Chrome .
The main thing I 'm afraid of is that we 're brewing a new Apple .
At least they 're not going for the single mouse button ( yet ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if this is doomed to become a niche operating system that doesn't even scratch the surface of the market.
Preventing your most enthusiastic linux base from trying out your software unless they purchase a new computer will prevent a large majority of people from playing with Chrome.
The main thing I'm afraid of is that we're brewing a new Apple.
At least they're not going for the single mouse button (yet).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164466</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>cenc</author>
	<datestamp>1258628340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mutually Assured destruction. Google and MS wipe each-other out, and Linux becomes the default desktop by default as the only one that did not go bankrupt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mutually Assured destruction .
Google and MS wipe each-other out , and Linux becomes the default desktop by default as the only one that did not go bankrupt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mutually Assured destruction.
Google and MS wipe each-other out, and Linux becomes the default desktop by default as the only one that did not go bankrupt.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163060</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163294</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Maverynthia</author>
	<datestamp>1258624920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you had a hard drive, you could put on some program that blocks all their ads... and they don't want that...</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you had a hard drive , you could put on some program that blocks all their ads... and they do n't want that.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you had a hard drive, you could put on some program that blocks all their ads... and they don't want that...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30169182</id>
	<title>If the code is open and free.....</title>
	<author>jotaeleemeese</author>
	<datestamp>1258712280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>.... that is all the reconciliation we need.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.... that is all the reconciliation we need .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.... that is all the reconciliation we need.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162280</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164350</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>ajs</author>
	<datestamp>1258627920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... relatively dumb device that only runs a web browser to use web apps (googles or anyone else's provided their signed by google)</p></div><p>I don't think Web apps need to be signed to execute. That's the whole goal of their security model. Remember that a "web app" is every Web page on the planet. Google doesn't want to be in the business of signing those.</p><p>There may be system services that you need a higher degree of confidence in order access, but the entry-level "parse and execute HTML 5, dripping with JavaScript," (e.g. like the Web app I'm using right now on Slashdot to post this) I can't imagine how the device would be useful if it didn't simply execute those out of the box, and currently I see nothing to restrict that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... relatively dumb device that only runs a web browser to use web apps ( googles or anyone else 's provided their signed by google ) I do n't think Web apps need to be signed to execute .
That 's the whole goal of their security model .
Remember that a " web app " is every Web page on the planet .
Google does n't want to be in the business of signing those.There may be system services that you need a higher degree of confidence in order access , but the entry-level " parse and execute HTML 5 , dripping with JavaScript , " ( e.g .
like the Web app I 'm using right now on Slashdot to post this ) I ca n't imagine how the device would be useful if it did n't simply execute those out of the box , and currently I see nothing to restrict that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... relatively dumb device that only runs a web browser to use web apps (googles or anyone else's provided their signed by google)I don't think Web apps need to be signed to execute.
That's the whole goal of their security model.
Remember that a "web app" is every Web page on the planet.
Google doesn't want to be in the business of signing those.There may be system services that you need a higher degree of confidence in order access, but the entry-level "parse and execute HTML 5, dripping with JavaScript," (e.g.
like the Web app I'm using right now on Slashdot to post this) I can't imagine how the device would be useful if it didn't simply execute those out of the box, and currently I see nothing to restrict that.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30169090</id>
	<title>A Logic Named Joe</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258711200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Every time I hear about thin clients and distributed computing, I always find myself thinking about one thing: Joe.</p><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A\_Logic\_Named\_Joe</p><p>Am I the only one? I'm surprised no one has made this connection yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Every time I hear about thin clients and distributed computing , I always find myself thinking about one thing : Joe.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A \ _Logic \ _Named \ _JoeAm I the only one ?
I 'm surprised no one has made this connection yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every time I hear about thin clients and distributed computing, I always find myself thinking about one thing: Joe.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A\_Logic\_Named\_JoeAm I the only one?
I'm surprised no one has made this connection yet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162930</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258623960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We need Fry, the most important person in the universe, to make a stand against the google brains.  Maybe Nibbler will recruit him now!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We need Fry , the most important person in the universe , to make a stand against the google brains .
Maybe Nibbler will recruit him now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We need Fry, the most important person in the universe, to make a stand against the google brains.
Maybe Nibbler will recruit him now!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165760</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>dreamchaser</author>
	<datestamp>1258633560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Everything runs in the cloud? Hard disks are banned? Wow, they are aggressively pursuing their thirst for all of the world's data. No thank you.</p><p>Exactly this.  Google's entire business model is based on data mining.  Allowing people to sequester their data on hard drives where Google cannot access them (legally) is contrary to their aims.  I'm not implying anything sinister, although I have my own reservations, but it's exactly why they won't allow hard drives.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everything runs in the cloud ?
Hard disks are banned ?
Wow , they are aggressively pursuing their thirst for all of the world 's data .
No thank you.Exactly this .
Google 's entire business model is based on data mining .
Allowing people to sequester their data on hard drives where Google can not access them ( legally ) is contrary to their aims .
I 'm not implying anything sinister , although I have my own reservations , but it 's exactly why they wo n't allow hard drives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everything runs in the cloud?
Hard disks are banned?
Wow, they are aggressively pursuing their thirst for all of the world's data.
No thank you.Exactly this.
Google's entire business model is based on data mining.
Allowing people to sequester their data on hard drives where Google cannot access them (legally) is contrary to their aims.
I'm not implying anything sinister, although I have my own reservations, but it's exactly why they won't allow hard drives.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165718</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>chabotc</author>
	<datestamp>1258633380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's missing the point, the goal with ChromeOS is to create a great companion device, a device you own next to your regular computer, much like people are already using android- &amp; iPhone's and much like e-readers etc.</p><p>Sure it can do a -lot- and you can even stream music from one of the many music streaming sites, you can play games on the web (flash, html5, etc), import photos to picassa/flickr/facebook from your camera, all on ChromeOS, but for anything like farcry and photoshop you would still need a real computer, and use the ChromeOS device when your on the road or just want to do some regular stuff.</p><p>So not a competition between device types at all, 100\% of the market could use ChromeOS, and a significant \% would also have a bigger computer as well</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's missing the point , the goal with ChromeOS is to create a great companion device , a device you own next to your regular computer , much like people are already using android- &amp; iPhone 's and much like e-readers etc.Sure it can do a -lot- and you can even stream music from one of the many music streaming sites , you can play games on the web ( flash , html5 , etc ) , import photos to picassa/flickr/facebook from your camera , all on ChromeOS , but for anything like farcry and photoshop you would still need a real computer , and use the ChromeOS device when your on the road or just want to do some regular stuff.So not a competition between device types at all , 100 \ % of the market could use ChromeOS , and a significant \ % would also have a bigger computer as well</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's missing the point, the goal with ChromeOS is to create a great companion device, a device you own next to your regular computer, much like people are already using android- &amp; iPhone's and much like e-readers etc.Sure it can do a -lot- and you can even stream music from one of the many music streaming sites, you can play games on the web (flash, html5, etc), import photos to picassa/flickr/facebook from your camera, all on ChromeOS, but for anything like farcry and photoshop you would still need a real computer, and use the ChromeOS device when your on the road or just want to do some regular stuff.So not a competition between device types at all, 100\% of the market could use ChromeOS, and a significant \% would also have a bigger computer as well</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162888</id>
	<title>all apps web apps</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258623720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The OS differs from the usual computing model by (1) making all apps web apps.</p><p>DO NOT WANT!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The OS differs from the usual computing model by ( 1 ) making all apps web apps.DO NOT WANT !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The OS differs from the usual computing model by (1) making all apps web apps.DO NOT WANT!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167444</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>Dr. Zim</author>
	<datestamp>1258644480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Logic is a little bird.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Logic is a little bird .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Logic is a little bird.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162280</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167700</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258647660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Everything runs in the cloud? Hard disks are banned? Wow, they are aggressively pursuing their thirst for all of the world's data. No thank you.</p></div><p>First, I wanted my voice to be heard, and they listened.</p><p>Then I wanted them to build a system around my interests, so they did</p><p>Then I wanted their source to be open, so they released it.</p><p>Then I wanted to complain about how they aren't doing what I want, and no one really cared.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everything runs in the cloud ?
Hard disks are banned ?
Wow , they are aggressively pursuing their thirst for all of the world 's data .
No thank you.First , I wanted my voice to be heard , and they listened.Then I wanted them to build a system around my interests , so they didThen I wanted their source to be open , so they released it.Then I wanted to complain about how they are n't doing what I want , and no one really cared .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everything runs in the cloud?
Hard disks are banned?
Wow, they are aggressively pursuing their thirst for all of the world's data.
No thank you.First, I wanted my voice to be heard, and they listened.Then I wanted them to build a system around my interests, so they didThen I wanted their source to be open, so they released it.Then I wanted to complain about how they aren't doing what I want, and no one really cared.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163854</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>aaaaaaargh!</author>
	<datestamp>1258626540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yeah, because what Joe Sixpack needs is Antivirus, endless straem of updates, burning backups of mail and documents and restoring it later, and rest of that shit.</p></div><p>You're so right. Chrome OS will never need to get updated (because it is perfect from start) and it will never need any anti-virus, because it runs on hardware and viruses only run on software. Chrome OS is the perfect OS for Joe Sixpacks internet banking needs, because the only one who will ever see his personal data is some senior sysadmin and some viral marketing salespeople at Google, and you can totally trust those guys. Then again, who wants to be Joe Sixpack?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , because what Joe Sixpack needs is Antivirus , endless straem of updates , burning backups of mail and documents and restoring it later , and rest of that shit.You 're so right .
Chrome OS will never need to get updated ( because it is perfect from start ) and it will never need any anti-virus , because it runs on hardware and viruses only run on software .
Chrome OS is the perfect OS for Joe Sixpacks internet banking needs , because the only one who will ever see his personal data is some senior sysadmin and some viral marketing salespeople at Google , and you can totally trust those guys .
Then again , who wants to be Joe Sixpack ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, because what Joe Sixpack needs is Antivirus, endless straem of updates, burning backups of mail and documents and restoring it later, and rest of that shit.You're so right.
Chrome OS will never need to get updated (because it is perfect from start) and it will never need any anti-virus, because it runs on hardware and viruses only run on software.
Chrome OS is the perfect OS for Joe Sixpacks internet banking needs, because the only one who will ever see his personal data is some senior sysadmin and some viral marketing salespeople at Google, and you can totally trust those guys.
Then again, who wants to be Joe Sixpack?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162502</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167882</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>evilviper</author>
	<datestamp>1258649820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>For likely 90\% of home users, this will be perfect.</p></div></blockquote><p>Famous last worlds, that brought ruin to and endless string of "Web OS" kiosk-like devices.</p><p>NOBODY WANTS THEM DAMMIT!</p><p>I think you need an "IOpener", or maybe a Web TV, iPaq, Audrey, Personal Internet Communicator, etc.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For likely 90 \ % of home users , this will be perfect.Famous last worlds , that brought ruin to and endless string of " Web OS " kiosk-like devices.NOBODY WANTS THEM DAMMIT ! I think you need an " IOpener " , or maybe a Web TV , iPaq , Audrey , Personal Internet Communicator , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For likely 90\% of home users, this will be perfect.Famous last worlds, that brought ruin to and endless string of "Web OS" kiosk-like devices.NOBODY WANTS THEM DAMMIT!I think you need an "IOpener", or maybe a Web TV, iPaq, Audrey, Personal Internet Communicator, etc.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162372</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163840</id>
	<title>Interesting, blantantly stupid sentance</title>
	<author>rockhome</author>
	<datestamp>1258626480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In reference to people being concerned that they'd lose access to data if their internet connection were down:<br>'"If your cloud is down it affects any computer you're on," he said. "I'd like to see a comparison of the cloud with what you have today. I think the cloud will compare very, very favourably[sic]."'</p><p>Um, no. If my "cloud" is down, i.e., my internet connection, my laptop or desktop can still run everything.  I can still work on my visio diagram, I can still listen to music, I can still do my taxes.<br>I can do all of that because the bleeding data that I need is on the damn machine.</p><p>Not to mention, why would I EVER entrust any corporation to safeguard or ethically use any data that I store on their "cloud"?<br>Can I create my own 'local' "cloud"? What will the EULA terms be? Can Google decide to start digging through your data to send advertisers your way?<br>Does Google now own the data?</p><p>Pressing questions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In reference to people being concerned that they 'd lose access to data if their internet connection were down : ' " If your cloud is down it affects any computer you 're on , " he said .
" I 'd like to see a comparison of the cloud with what you have today .
I think the cloud will compare very , very favourably [ sic ] .
" 'Um , no .
If my " cloud " is down , i.e. , my internet connection , my laptop or desktop can still run everything .
I can still work on my visio diagram , I can still listen to music , I can still do my taxes.I can do all of that because the bleeding data that I need is on the damn machine.Not to mention , why would I EVER entrust any corporation to safeguard or ethically use any data that I store on their " cloud " ? Can I create my own 'local ' " cloud " ?
What will the EULA terms be ?
Can Google decide to start digging through your data to send advertisers your way ? Does Google now own the data ? Pressing questions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In reference to people being concerned that they'd lose access to data if their internet connection were down:'"If your cloud is down it affects any computer you're on," he said.
"I'd like to see a comparison of the cloud with what you have today.
I think the cloud will compare very, very favourably[sic].
"'Um, no.
If my "cloud" is down, i.e., my internet connection, my laptop or desktop can still run everything.
I can still work on my visio diagram, I can still listen to music, I can still do my taxes.I can do all of that because the bleeding data that I need is on the damn machine.Not to mention, why would I EVER entrust any corporation to safeguard or ethically use any data that I store on their "cloud"?Can I create my own 'local' "cloud"?
What will the EULA terms be?
Can Google decide to start digging through your data to send advertisers your way?Does Google now own the data?Pressing questions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165850</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>vikstar</author>
	<datestamp>1258634040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's Joe the Plumber, and yes, he does need endless streams and all that shit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's Joe the Plumber , and yes , he does need endless streams and all that shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's Joe the Plumber, and yes, he does need endless streams and all that shit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162502</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30166994</id>
	<title>Re:Don't trust developers.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258640280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What they really mean is that they don't trust that someone has not tinkered with their os and added malware.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What they really mean is that they do n't trust that someone has not tinkered with their os and added malware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What they really mean is that they don't trust that someone has not tinkered with their os and added malware.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162794</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163808</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258626420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did you consider the fact that you might be able to host your own web server with disks for storage? They're making an open platform. It means you can create your own services or even your own platform for these services.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you consider the fact that you might be able to host your own web server with disks for storage ?
They 're making an open platform .
It means you can create your own services or even your own platform for these services .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you consider the fact that you might be able to host your own web server with disks for storage?
They're making an open platform.
It means you can create your own services or even your own platform for these services.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30179548</id>
	<title>Re:You can live in the cloud...</title>
	<author>mtremsal</author>
	<datestamp>1258720380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All the hype was used for Wave's release.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All the hype was used for Wave 's release .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All the hype was used for Wave's release.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162642</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167998</id>
	<title>It was a lesson about open source</title>
	<author>Joe Tie.</author>
	<datestamp>1258650960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was really excited about this, until I tried to actually use it. It gave me an important lesson about open source and cloud computing. The frontend can be open source, but all the apps below it can be easily locked out. From what I can see, normal users can't actually get at a lot of the goodies. Like the application section.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was really excited about this , until I tried to actually use it .
It gave me an important lesson about open source and cloud computing .
The frontend can be open source , but all the apps below it can be easily locked out .
From what I can see , normal users ca n't actually get at a lot of the goodies .
Like the application section .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was really excited about this, until I tried to actually use it.
It gave me an important lesson about open source and cloud computing.
The frontend can be open source, but all the apps below it can be easily locked out.
From what I can see, normal users can't actually get at a lot of the goodies.
Like the application section.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163956</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258626840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anus EEPEEECEEE did something similar few years back and we all know how well that went</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anus EEPEEECEEE did something similar few years back and we all know how well that went</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anus EEPEEECEEE did something similar few years back and we all know how well that went</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162724</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30166740</id>
	<title>There are already images for download</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258638540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I saw it at <a href="http://chromebook.blogspot.com/2009/11/chrome-os-has-been-released-introducing.html" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://chromebook.blogspot.com/2009/11/chrome-os-has-been-released-introducing.html</a> [blogspot.com]</p><p>there is a torrent to a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.vmdk file which should boot up in virtualbox or vmware,</p><p>have fun!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I saw it at http : //chromebook.blogspot.com/2009/11/chrome-os-has-been-released-introducing.html [ blogspot.com ] there is a torrent to a .vmdk file which should boot up in virtualbox or vmware,have fun !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I saw it at http://chromebook.blogspot.com/2009/11/chrome-os-has-been-released-introducing.html [blogspot.com]there is a torrent to a .vmdk file which should boot up in virtualbox or vmware,have fun!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167306</id>
	<title>Re:Going back to sleep now...</title>
	<author>Fastolfe</author>
	<datestamp>1258642920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Personally, both my work and play are heavily Internet-oriented, so when the network goes down, my PC sits idle anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally , both my work and play are heavily Internet-oriented , so when the network goes down , my PC sits idle anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally, both my work and play are heavily Internet-oriented, so when the network goes down, my PC sits idle anyway.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163302</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165364</id>
	<title>If it is like their POS browser</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258631820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Count me out. Their browser wouldn't work on any of my pcs (work or home). Plus what happens if you don't have a network connection?!? You guessed it a netbook brick that can do nothing. No thanks. I will stay with a system that has the OS on a local drive so I don't have to rely on the internet to do anything. This will fail.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Count me out .
Their browser would n't work on any of my pcs ( work or home ) .
Plus what happens if you do n't have a network connection ? ! ?
You guessed it a netbook brick that can do nothing .
No thanks .
I will stay with a system that has the OS on a local drive so I do n't have to rely on the internet to do anything .
This will fail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Count me out.
Their browser wouldn't work on any of my pcs (work or home).
Plus what happens if you don't have a network connection?!?
You guessed it a netbook brick that can do nothing.
No thanks.
I will stay with a system that has the OS on a local drive so I don't have to rely on the internet to do anything.
This will fail.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165272</id>
	<title>No chances in China, if they don't embed TOR!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258631520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Guess how I learned the news in P.R.China? I learned the news on the Google Blog, browsed chromium.org, and watched youtube videos, all through Tor.</p><p>The Google Blog which is on blogspot.com, the chromium.org which is based on AppSpot, and youtube.com itself, are tightly blocked by some 'relevant department'(, which is the code for gvn't sometimes). Looking forward to the blocking for Wave some time in near future.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Guess how I learned the news in P.R.China ?
I learned the news on the Google Blog , browsed chromium.org , and watched youtube videos , all through Tor.The Google Blog which is on blogspot.com , the chromium.org which is based on AppSpot , and youtube.com itself , are tightly blocked by some 'relevant department ' ( , which is the code for gv n't sometimes ) .
Looking forward to the blocking for Wave some time in near future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Guess how I learned the news in P.R.China?
I learned the news on the Google Blog, browsed chromium.org, and watched youtube videos, all through Tor.The Google Blog which is on blogspot.com, the chromium.org which is based on AppSpot, and youtube.com itself, are tightly blocked by some 'relevant department'(, which is the code for gvn't sometimes).
Looking forward to the blocking for Wave some time in near future.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30169222</id>
	<title>EULA != Copyright</title>
	<author>jotaeleemeese</author>
	<datestamp>1258712640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Open Source licenses (like the GPL) are not EULAs in the traditional sense, they are copyright agreements.</p><p>If Google release the code then as long as you respect how the code is copied and modified (Copyright) I don't think they can dictate how the software is used (EULA).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Open Source licenses ( like the GPL ) are not EULAs in the traditional sense , they are copyright agreements.If Google release the code then as long as you respect how the code is copied and modified ( Copyright ) I do n't think they can dictate how the software is used ( EULA ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Open Source licenses (like the GPL) are not EULAs in the traditional sense, they are copyright agreements.If Google release the code then as long as you respect how the code is copied and modified (Copyright) I don't think they can dictate how the software is used (EULA).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162574</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164826</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1258629720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The root OS partition is read only and the selection of hardware is prescribed by google. You can download the source to hack it, but you can't make an installable image as you can't cryptographically sign it for their okay</i></p><p>But if you install it on non-google hardware, it won't have anything to check the signature of the OS right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The root OS partition is read only and the selection of hardware is prescribed by google .
You can download the source to hack it , but you ca n't make an installable image as you ca n't cryptographically sign it for their okayBut if you install it on non-google hardware , it wo n't have anything to check the signature of the OS right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The root OS partition is read only and the selection of hardware is prescribed by google.
You can download the source to hack it, but you can't make an installable image as you can't cryptographically sign it for their okayBut if you install it on non-google hardware, it won't have anything to check the signature of the OS right?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162372</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162312</id>
	<title>Looks like litl</title>
	<author>Homburg</author>
	<datestamp>1258621800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This looks a bit like the <a href="http://log.ometer.com/#16" title="ometer.com">OS used on the litl webbooks</a> [ometer.com]. It's an interesting idea, to choose a specific niche with specific constraints, and really target it. I'm still unsure whether this precise niche (almost-always online, only apps that can be delivered via the browser) is a large enough niche to be useful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This looks a bit like the OS used on the litl webbooks [ ometer.com ] .
It 's an interesting idea , to choose a specific niche with specific constraints , and really target it .
I 'm still unsure whether this precise niche ( almost-always online , only apps that can be delivered via the browser ) is a large enough niche to be useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This looks a bit like the OS used on the litl webbooks [ometer.com].
It's an interesting idea, to choose a specific niche with specific constraints, and really target it.
I'm still unsure whether this precise niche (almost-always online, only apps that can be delivered via the browser) is a large enough niche to be useful.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164644</id>
	<title>Would be nice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258628940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This would be nice if it could be compiled for now on more than just Ubuntu. Can't the devs just write generic scripts?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This would be nice if it could be compiled for now on more than just Ubuntu .
Ca n't the devs just write generic scripts ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This would be nice if it could be compiled for now on more than just Ubuntu.
Can't the devs just write generic scripts?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164974</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>Frosty Piss</author>
	<datestamp>1258630320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But this will be useful in some cases (3rd world education, your grandparents, etc) where all your need are webapps...</p></div><p>No. A thousand times no.
<br> <br>
This type of exclusionary thinking is why OLPC is a joke. Have you been to the "The Third World"? They have cell phones <i>in the middle of nowhere</i>. Their needs for a computer device do not involve dumbed down toys that have little relationships to "real" computers and "real" applications.
<br> <br>
As a minimum, "The Third World" needs net-books, not some idiot box with useless toy applications, and while things like OLPC might be fine for *children* to play with, adults with adult problems to solve need real computers.
<br> <br>
Laptops and net-books are quite cheap and quite sturdy and perfectly suitable for the real needs of "Third World" people.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But this will be useful in some cases ( 3rd world education , your grandparents , etc ) where all your need are webapps...No .
A thousand times no .
This type of exclusionary thinking is why OLPC is a joke .
Have you been to the " The Third World " ?
They have cell phones in the middle of nowhere .
Their needs for a computer device do not involve dumbed down toys that have little relationships to " real " computers and " real " applications .
As a minimum , " The Third World " needs net-books , not some idiot box with useless toy applications , and while things like OLPC might be fine for * children * to play with , adults with adult problems to solve need real computers .
Laptops and net-books are quite cheap and quite sturdy and perfectly suitable for the real needs of " Third World " people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But this will be useful in some cases (3rd world education, your grandparents, etc) where all your need are webapps...No.
A thousand times no.
This type of exclusionary thinking is why OLPC is a joke.
Have you been to the "The Third World"?
They have cell phones in the middle of nowhere.
Their needs for a computer device do not involve dumbed down toys that have little relationships to "real" computers and "real" applications.
As a minimum, "The Third World" needs net-books, not some idiot box with useless toy applications, and while things like OLPC might be fine for *children* to play with, adults with adult problems to solve need real computers.
Laptops and net-books are quite cheap and quite sturdy and perfectly suitable for the real needs of "Third World" people.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162462</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163160</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258624560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google has hardware locks so that they can custom-tailor the firmware to work on their approved hardware and thus make it much much faster than anything we have today.

Appple, on the other hand, locks their hardware in to retain market share.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google has hardware locks so that they can custom-tailor the firmware to work on their approved hardware and thus make it much much faster than anything we have today .
Appple , on the other hand , locks their hardware in to retain market share .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google has hardware locks so that they can custom-tailor the firmware to work on their approved hardware and thus make it much much faster than anything we have today.
Appple, on the other hand, locks their hardware in to retain market share.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162280</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163796</id>
	<title>The Cloud is not the internet</title>
	<author>junglebeast</author>
	<datestamp>1258626360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"All applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be supported."

"Google will also allow some data and applications to be accessed offline. Users will be able to listen to music and read eBooks without an internet connection,"

Since apparently there is no problem accessing music that is stored in the cloud while offline, I can only assume that they are referring to some other form of 'cloud,' such as a cloud of gnats that follows you around your head.  It wouldn't be the first time biology inspired swarm techniques have been used in computer science.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" All applications will be web apps , all data will be stored in the cloud and the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be supported .
" " Google will also allow some data and applications to be accessed offline .
Users will be able to listen to music and read eBooks without an internet connection , " Since apparently there is no problem accessing music that is stored in the cloud while offline , I can only assume that they are referring to some other form of 'cloud, ' such as a cloud of gnats that follows you around your head .
It would n't be the first time biology inspired swarm techniques have been used in computer science .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"All applications will be web apps, all data will be stored in the cloud and the operating system will be booted from Flash - no hard disks will be supported.
"

"Google will also allow some data and applications to be accessed offline.
Users will be able to listen to music and read eBooks without an internet connection,"

Since apparently there is no problem accessing music that is stored in the cloud while offline, I can only assume that they are referring to some other form of 'cloud,' such as a cloud of gnats that follows you around your head.
It wouldn't be the first time biology inspired swarm techniques have been used in computer science.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30168932</id>
	<title>Hypothetical Question</title>
	<author>nishu goyal</author>
	<datestamp>1258708020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can games be played on this OS? (Given large enough physical memory and graphic card)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can games be played on this OS ?
( Given large enough physical memory and graphic card )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can games be played on this OS?
(Given large enough physical memory and graphic card)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167294</id>
	<title>Re:You can live in the cloud...</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1258642800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nobody's forcing you to use Google's web apps. You can use it with Microsoft's web apps too if you want.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobody 's forcing you to use Google 's web apps .
You can use it with Microsoft 's web apps too if you want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobody's forcing you to use Google's web apps.
You can use it with Microsoft's web apps too if you want.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162642</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30166878</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>davester666</author>
	<datestamp>1258639320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because people in the 3rd world can readily afford wireless data connections for their computer to be useful?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because people in the 3rd world can readily afford wireless data connections for their computer to be useful ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because people in the 3rd world can readily afford wireless data connections for their computer to be useful?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162462</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163896</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258626660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With Google cornering the third world search and advertising market they will now know with five-9's accuracy that males between 8-35 are most interested in:</p><p>1. Cigarettes (Camel)<br>2. AK-47s<br>3. Hello Kitty backpacks</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With Google cornering the third world search and advertising market they will now know with five-9 's accuracy that males between 8-35 are most interested in : 1 .
Cigarettes ( Camel ) 2 .
AK-47s3. Hello Kitty backpacks</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With Google cornering the third world search and advertising market they will now know with five-9's accuracy that males between 8-35 are most interested in:1.
Cigarettes (Camel)2.
AK-47s3. Hello Kitty backpacks</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162724</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30168452</id>
	<title>Re:This is how the HDD will finally die</title>
	<author>pseudonomous</author>
	<datestamp>1258655760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Screw 32G, it sounds like all they need is about 4G.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Screw 32G , it sounds like all they need is about 4G .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Screw 32G, it sounds like all they need is about 4G.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163968</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167526</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>Jesus\_666</author>
	<datestamp>1258645500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>A very large segment of home users need iTunes to sync with their iPod and iPhone,</p></div></blockquote><p>Cloud app. We just send the USB packets over the internet.</p><blockquote><div><p>play video games,</p></div></blockquote><p>Cloud app. We just send the USB packets and the screen contents over the internet.<br>
<br>
take photos off their cameras</p><p>See iTunes.</p><blockquote><div><p>work from home</p></div></blockquote><p>All apps you will ever user will be cloud apps. Period. You will use Google Docs and be happy with it. All hail the mighty might of cloud computing. The cloud is truth.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A very large segment of home users need iTunes to sync with their iPod and iPhone,Cloud app .
We just send the USB packets over the internet.play video games,Cloud app .
We just send the USB packets and the screen contents over the internet .
take photos off their camerasSee iTunes.work from homeAll apps you will ever user will be cloud apps .
Period. You will use Google Docs and be happy with it .
All hail the mighty might of cloud computing .
The cloud is truth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A very large segment of home users need iTunes to sync with their iPod and iPhone,Cloud app.
We just send the USB packets over the internet.play video games,Cloud app.
We just send the USB packets and the screen contents over the internet.
take photos off their camerasSee iTunes.work from homeAll apps you will ever user will be cloud apps.
Period. You will use Google Docs and be happy with it.
All hail the mighty might of cloud computing.
The cloud is truth.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162906</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30166238</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1258635780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The title is 'releases source'<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... seems like a pretty frigging big difference. Also, apple is a trap. After you buy an apple product you need more apple only products and if you ever try and escape you'll need to replace every electronic in your house. <br> <br>This is literally ALL on the web, you can't possibly be more open than that. I could open up chrome, goto full-screen mode and change a homepage. BLAM googleOS.<br> <br>This is for gadgets at best. Likely it will be mainly used for embedded situations like... web machines in public places (lots of schools have them). And that is a place where being locked down is fine.<br> <br>If this became a competitor to nix/doze/osx then I could see your complaint but they aren't in the same market man.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The title is 'releases source ' ... seems like a pretty frigging big difference .
Also , apple is a trap .
After you buy an apple product you need more apple only products and if you ever try and escape you 'll need to replace every electronic in your house .
This is literally ALL on the web , you ca n't possibly be more open than that .
I could open up chrome , goto full-screen mode and change a homepage .
BLAM googleOS .
This is for gadgets at best .
Likely it will be mainly used for embedded situations like... web machines in public places ( lots of schools have them ) .
And that is a place where being locked down is fine .
If this became a competitor to nix/doze/osx then I could see your complaint but they are n't in the same market man .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The title is 'releases source' ... seems like a pretty frigging big difference.
Also, apple is a trap.
After you buy an apple product you need more apple only products and if you ever try and escape you'll need to replace every electronic in your house.
This is literally ALL on the web, you can't possibly be more open than that.
I could open up chrome, goto full-screen mode and change a homepage.
BLAM googleOS.
This is for gadgets at best.
Likely it will be mainly used for embedded situations like... web machines in public places (lots of schools have them).
And that is a place where being locked down is fine.
If this became a competitor to nix/doze/osx then I could see your complaint but they aren't in the same market man.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162280</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164596</id>
	<title>Re:Going back to sleep now...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258628760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But what do your users think?</p><p>I know some Citrix users who want to bash the head of their sysadmin with a goedendag.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But what do your users think ? I know some Citrix users who want to bash the head of their sysadmin with a goedendag .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But what do your users think?I know some Citrix users who want to bash the head of their sysadmin with a goedendag.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162948</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163114</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>wile\_e8</author>
	<datestamp>1258624440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>How do we reconcile this with slamming Apple for trying to maintain 100\% control over the OS/hardware combo?</p></div></blockquote><p>

Easily.  These are just hardware requirements, no one is trying force you to run it on an approved version of the hardware.  If you can build hardware that fits the requirements, you can run it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How do we reconcile this with slamming Apple for trying to maintain 100 \ % control over the OS/hardware combo ?
Easily. These are just hardware requirements , no one is trying force you to run it on an approved version of the hardware .
If you can build hardware that fits the requirements , you can run it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do we reconcile this with slamming Apple for trying to maintain 100\% control over the OS/hardware combo?
Easily.  These are just hardware requirements, no one is trying force you to run it on an approved version of the hardware.
If you can build hardware that fits the requirements, you can run it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162280</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165650</id>
	<title>Re:Open Source?</title>
	<author>Taxman415a</author>
	<datestamp>1258633140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>consumers won't be able to download the operating system</i></p> </div><p>Yeah, the article and thus the summary say that, but it's just the result of really bad journalism. If you read the first FA it links directly to <a href="http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/building-chromium-os/getting-the-chromium-os-source-code" title="chromium.org">how to download the source.</a> [chromium.org] There's even a place to browse the git repository.
<br> <br>
Then unless I've grabbed the wrong license file it appears to be under basically <a href="http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=chromiumos.git;a=blob;f=src/LICENSE;h=0aa7fc93577374e4f4c29387cf2a17ea95f8d4bc;hb=HEAD" title="chromium.org">a BSDish license</a> [chromium.org].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>consumers wo n't be able to download the operating system Yeah , the article and thus the summary say that , but it 's just the result of really bad journalism .
If you read the first FA it links directly to how to download the source .
[ chromium.org ] There 's even a place to browse the git repository .
Then unless I 've grabbed the wrong license file it appears to be under basically a BSDish license [ chromium.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> consumers won't be able to download the operating system Yeah, the article and thus the summary say that, but it's just the result of really bad journalism.
If you read the first FA it links directly to how to download the source.
[chromium.org] There's even a place to browse the git repository.
Then unless I've grabbed the wrong license file it appears to be under basically a BSDish license [chromium.org].
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162328</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30168784</id>
	<title>Google is starting to suck</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258660320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm utterly speechless as to who they think would actually use a system so cripped that it could only run a browser and was not even capable of storing files locally?</p><p>I'm sure Microsoft is feeling the pressure now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm utterly speechless as to who they think would actually use a system so cripped that it could only run a browser and was not even capable of storing files locally ? I 'm sure Microsoft is feeling the pressure now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm utterly speechless as to who they think would actually use a system so cripped that it could only run a browser and was not even capable of storing files locally?I'm sure Microsoft is feeling the pressure now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164060</id>
	<title>So this is like a netbook-oriented Palm webOS?</title>
	<author>Brian Feldman</author>
	<datestamp>1258627080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are there more web-browser-based operating systems yet other than Palm webOS and Google Chrome OS?  I am not going to look through the architecture right now but I expect it to be quite similar; certain applications will be built upon browser plug-ins, but fundamentally still be "web apps", and there will be numerous non-web-app services running natively on the Unix part of the platform, along with special extension objects in the JavaScript engine to allow access to these services via a message bus.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are there more web-browser-based operating systems yet other than Palm webOS and Google Chrome OS ?
I am not going to look through the architecture right now but I expect it to be quite similar ; certain applications will be built upon browser plug-ins , but fundamentally still be " web apps " , and there will be numerous non-web-app services running natively on the Unix part of the platform , along with special extension objects in the JavaScript engine to allow access to these services via a message bus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are there more web-browser-based operating systems yet other than Palm webOS and Google Chrome OS?
I am not going to look through the architecture right now but I expect it to be quite similar; certain applications will be built upon browser plug-ins, but fundamentally still be "web apps", and there will be numerous non-web-app services running natively on the Unix part of the platform, along with special extension objects in the JavaScript engine to allow access to these services via a message bus.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164730</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>CharlyFoxtrot</author>
	<datestamp>1258629300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Help me out.  Where can I download the source code to OS X and all the software components for a working Mac?</p></div><p> <a href="http://opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-1062/" title="apple.com">Here</a> [apple.com] you go. There used to be a buch of people who built a full functioning <a href="http://docs.huihoo.com/darwin/opendarwin/news/shutdown.html" title="huihoo.com">OS</a> [huihoo.com] out of the source but they had little success because whingers like you don't really care about the source, only about bashing Apple.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Help me out .
Where can I download the source code to OS X and all the software components for a working Mac ?
Here [ apple.com ] you go .
There used to be a buch of people who built a full functioning OS [ huihoo.com ] out of the source but they had little success because whingers like you do n't really care about the source , only about bashing Apple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Help me out.
Where can I download the source code to OS X and all the software components for a working Mac?
Here [apple.com] you go.
There used to be a buch of people who built a full functioning OS [huihoo.com] out of the source but they had little success because whingers like you don't really care about the source, only about bashing Apple.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162698</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167878</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258649700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How do we reconcile this with slamming Apple for trying to maintain 100\% control over the OS/hardware combo?</p></div><p>Easily. Anyone can take take the Chromium OS code and build it for their platform. Only thing they don't get is the "Chrome OS" name, but otherwise they can get exactly the same system on whatever hardware they want.</p><p>HTH.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How do we reconcile this with slamming Apple for trying to maintain 100 \ % control over the OS/hardware combo ? Easily .
Anyone can take take the Chromium OS code and build it for their platform .
Only thing they do n't get is the " Chrome OS " name , but otherwise they can get exactly the same system on whatever hardware they want.HTH .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do we reconcile this with slamming Apple for trying to maintain 100\% control over the OS/hardware combo?Easily.
Anyone can take take the Chromium OS code and build it for their platform.
Only thing they don't get is the "Chrome OS" name, but otherwise they can get exactly the same system on whatever hardware they want.HTH.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162280</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162936</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258623960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Firstly, you are stupid and wrong.  Google doesn't have 100\% control in the way apple does, in fact google will make no hardware.</p><p>But the best answer to your question is that the OS will be open source, so you can DO WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT WITH IT.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Firstly , you are stupid and wrong .
Google does n't have 100 \ % control in the way apple does , in fact google will make no hardware.But the best answer to your question is that the OS will be open source , so you can DO WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT WITH IT .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Firstly, you are stupid and wrong.
Google doesn't have 100\% control in the way apple does, in fact google will make no hardware.But the best answer to your question is that the OS will be open source, so you can DO WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT WITH IT.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162280</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163134</id>
	<title>Re:That's weird</title>
	<author>TubeSteak</author>
	<datestamp>1258624500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The main thing I'm afraid of is that we're brewing a new Apple.</p></div><p>That's kind of the point.<br>"There's an app for that" is a much better marketing slogan that "apt-get install"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The main thing I 'm afraid of is that we 're brewing a new Apple.That 's kind of the point .
" There 's an app for that " is a much better marketing slogan that " apt-get install "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The main thing I'm afraid of is that we're brewing a new Apple.That's kind of the point.
"There's an app for that" is a much better marketing slogan that "apt-get install"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162308</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30173752</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>teko\_teko</author>
	<datestamp>1258743120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A hardware vendor can already put a tiny installation of Linux + X11 + Firefox or Chrome on small flash drive.  Why make a new OS?</p></div><p>Can it <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTFfl7AjNfI&amp;feature=player\_embedded" title="youtube.com">boot under 2 seconds</a> [youtube.com]?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A hardware vendor can already put a tiny installation of Linux + X11 + Firefox or Chrome on small flash drive .
Why make a new OS ? Can it boot under 2 seconds [ youtube.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A hardware vendor can already put a tiny installation of Linux + X11 + Firefox or Chrome on small flash drive.
Why make a new OS?Can it boot under 2 seconds [youtube.com]?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162724</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164754</id>
	<title>The OS for my fridge?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258629420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Having read (most of) the comments, I wonder why no one has mentioned that Chrome OS will be the perfect OS to run the fabled internet-fridge and similar not-quite-*books... As I see it, this could be huge.</p><p>The next obvious step would be a good support for touch screens, on-screen keyboard and such...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having read ( most of ) the comments , I wonder why no one has mentioned that Chrome OS will be the perfect OS to run the fabled internet-fridge and similar not-quite- * books... As I see it , this could be huge.The next obvious step would be a good support for touch screens , on-screen keyboard and such.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having read (most of) the comments, I wonder why no one has mentioned that Chrome OS will be the perfect OS to run the fabled internet-fridge and similar not-quite-*books... As I see it, this could be huge.The next obvious step would be a good support for touch screens, on-screen keyboard and such...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167348</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>Fastolfe</author>
	<datestamp>1258643400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Gaming is still up in the air, but they're not stupid, and I'm sure they've considered the need.</p></div></blockquote><p>High-performance gaming is likely out of scope for devices of the size and performance that Google seems to be looking at.  But for those that say that this is a reason a PC alternative won't take off, consider that there are plenty of people already using dedicated gaming consoles like the Xbox and PS3.  With a dedicated gaming console, and a dedicated web device, the reasons I need to go into the office to fire up my PC start to dwindle...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Gaming is still up in the air , but they 're not stupid , and I 'm sure they 've considered the need.High-performance gaming is likely out of scope for devices of the size and performance that Google seems to be looking at .
But for those that say that this is a reason a PC alternative wo n't take off , consider that there are plenty of people already using dedicated gaming consoles like the Xbox and PS3 .
With a dedicated gaming console , and a dedicated web device , the reasons I need to go into the office to fire up my PC start to dwindle.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gaming is still up in the air, but they're not stupid, and I'm sure they've considered the need.High-performance gaming is likely out of scope for devices of the size and performance that Google seems to be looking at.
But for those that say that this is a reason a PC alternative won't take off, consider that there are plenty of people already using dedicated gaming consoles like the Xbox and PS3.
With a dedicated gaming console, and a dedicated web device, the reasons I need to go into the office to fire up my PC start to dwindle...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30169264</id>
	<title>Dead horse?</title>
	<author>jotaeleemeese</author>
	<datestamp>1258713060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There have been several of those "dead horses" in the past.</p><p>Apple's Newton comes to mind, where an idea was way ahead of its time.</p><p>In this case everything seems to be in place: people are already doing most of their work online (email, webs surfing, now even document editing, presentations and basic photographic and video editing) and we have broadband, something we lacked during previous attempts.</p><p>When Sun tried the idea they didn't have desktop applications in offer. It all worked great, but the only thing you could do is run an X application back in your display.</p><p>Now you have all applications online, even in corporate networks.</p><p>You are also underestimating the frustration in many companies with the asinine maintenance cycle of Windows based desktops. In many companies they are trying to use things like Citirix and bizarre Windows thin clients in order to minimize maintenance costs, a thin client with credible applications is a holly grail, not a dead horse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There have been several of those " dead horses " in the past.Apple 's Newton comes to mind , where an idea was way ahead of its time.In this case everything seems to be in place : people are already doing most of their work online ( email , webs surfing , now even document editing , presentations and basic photographic and video editing ) and we have broadband , something we lacked during previous attempts.When Sun tried the idea they did n't have desktop applications in offer .
It all worked great , but the only thing you could do is run an X application back in your display.Now you have all applications online , even in corporate networks.You are also underestimating the frustration in many companies with the asinine maintenance cycle of Windows based desktops .
In many companies they are trying to use things like Citirix and bizarre Windows thin clients in order to minimize maintenance costs , a thin client with credible applications is a holly grail , not a dead horse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There have been several of those "dead horses" in the past.Apple's Newton comes to mind, where an idea was way ahead of its time.In this case everything seems to be in place: people are already doing most of their work online (email, webs surfing, now even document editing, presentations and basic photographic and video editing) and we have broadband, something we lacked during previous attempts.When Sun tried the idea they didn't have desktop applications in offer.
It all worked great, but the only thing you could do is run an X application back in your display.Now you have all applications online, even in corporate networks.You are also underestimating the frustration in many companies with the asinine maintenance cycle of Windows based desktops.
In many companies they are trying to use things like Citirix and bizarre Windows thin clients in order to minimize maintenance costs, a thin client with credible applications is a holly grail, not a dead horse.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164740</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>IronChef</author>
	<datestamp>1258629360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Does the 3rd world really have always-on mobile internet with unlimited data, such that all apps being webapps is a good idea?</p></div><p>I live in the US and I certainly don't have always-on mobile internet. I have access to it, sure, but it just isn't worth it--the expense, the poor selection of devices, the contracts with carriers... I may be in the minority, but there are still probably a lot of people that won't pop for another big monthly bill.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does the 3rd world really have always-on mobile internet with unlimited data , such that all apps being webapps is a good idea ? I live in the US and I certainly do n't have always-on mobile internet .
I have access to it , sure , but it just is n't worth it--the expense , the poor selection of devices , the contracts with carriers... I may be in the minority , but there are still probably a lot of people that wo n't pop for another big monthly bill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does the 3rd world really have always-on mobile internet with unlimited data, such that all apps being webapps is a good idea?I live in the US and I certainly don't have always-on mobile internet.
I have access to it, sure, but it just isn't worth it--the expense, the poor selection of devices, the contracts with carriers... I may be in the minority, but there are still probably a lot of people that won't pop for another big monthly bill.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162850</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162590</id>
	<title>Security looks impressive</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258622700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After finding this link:  <a href="http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/security-overview" title="chromium.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/security-overview</a> [chromium.org]</p><p>I'm impressed.  I wasn't expecting that much in the way of security in this offering, but I'm actually pleasantly surprised by how much thought Google has put into this, both from remote attacks and local (stolen computer/device).</p><p>Three notable things:</p><p>I like is the fact that items that log on and use Google's authentication mechanism work online, and offline by using a local cached hash table.</p><p>The segmenting of the Web browser.  This is something every Web browser should do, so one buggy plugin doesn't mean a completely rooted system.</p><p>Very well thought out boot path with initial key values stored in an unalterable chip.  Next to a TPM boot, this is a good way to protect against corrupted boot attacks.</p><p>My only wish is that the device didn't use an Owner/user priv model.  This is just fine for devices and home computers, but when you get to the enterprise where you have to have machines have a "master-root" user (usually an Active Directory) admin, there will be issues.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After finding this link : http : //www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/security-overview [ chromium.org ] I 'm impressed .
I was n't expecting that much in the way of security in this offering , but I 'm actually pleasantly surprised by how much thought Google has put into this , both from remote attacks and local ( stolen computer/device ) .Three notable things : I like is the fact that items that log on and use Google 's authentication mechanism work online , and offline by using a local cached hash table.The segmenting of the Web browser .
This is something every Web browser should do , so one buggy plugin does n't mean a completely rooted system.Very well thought out boot path with initial key values stored in an unalterable chip .
Next to a TPM boot , this is a good way to protect against corrupted boot attacks.My only wish is that the device did n't use an Owner/user priv model .
This is just fine for devices and home computers , but when you get to the enterprise where you have to have machines have a " master-root " user ( usually an Active Directory ) admin , there will be issues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After finding this link:  http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/security-overview [chromium.org]I'm impressed.
I wasn't expecting that much in the way of security in this offering, but I'm actually pleasantly surprised by how much thought Google has put into this, both from remote attacks and local (stolen computer/device).Three notable things:I like is the fact that items that log on and use Google's authentication mechanism work online, and offline by using a local cached hash table.The segmenting of the Web browser.
This is something every Web browser should do, so one buggy plugin doesn't mean a completely rooted system.Very well thought out boot path with initial key values stored in an unalterable chip.
Next to a TPM boot, this is a good way to protect against corrupted boot attacks.My only wish is that the device didn't use an Owner/user priv model.
This is just fine for devices and home computers, but when you get to the enterprise where you have to have machines have a "master-root" user (usually an Active Directory) admin, there will be issues.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30169342</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Yvanhoe</author>
	<datestamp>1258714200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seconded. That's not for me. At leas they release their source so someone may come up with a Gears version of that that runs offline...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seconded .
That 's not for me .
At leas they release their source so someone may come up with a Gears version of that that runs offline.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seconded.
That's not for me.
At leas they release their source so someone may come up with a Gears version of that that runs offline...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167266</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit,nike jordan shoes,handbags</title>
	<author>coolforsale114</author>
	<datestamp>1258642620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/</a> [coolforsale.com]
Christmas is around the corner:  And old customers can also enjoy the gifts sent by my company in a can also request to our company. Gifts lot,Buy more get the moreOnly this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services". Your satisfaction is our main pursue. You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs.Ladies and Gentlemen  weicome  to  my  coolforsale.com.Here,there  are   the   most   fashion   products . Pass by but don't   miss it.Select  your  favorite  clothing!  Welcome  to come  next   time ! Thank you!     <a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76</a> [coolforsale.com] (Tracksuit w)
ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket,
Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33
Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35
Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35
Tshirts (Polo<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,ed hardy,lacoste) $16
free shipping
competitive price
any size available
accept the paypal
Thanks</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.coolforsale.com/ [ coolforsale.com ] Christmas is around the corner : And old customers can also enjoy the gifts sent by my company in a can also request to our company .
Gifts lot,Buy more get the moreOnly this site have this treatmentOur goal is " Best quality , Best reputation , Best services " .
Your satisfaction is our main pursue .
You can find the best products from us , meeting your different needs.Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but do n't miss it.Select your favorite clothing !
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you !
http : //www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp ? id = s76 [ coolforsale.com ] ( Tracksuit w ) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket , Air jordan ( 1-24 ) shoes $ 33 Nike shox ( R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3 ) $ 35 Handbags ( Coach lv fendi d&amp;g ) $ 35 Tshirts ( Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste ) $ 16 free shipping competitive price any size available accept the paypal Thanks</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.coolforsale.com/ [coolforsale.com]
Christmas is around the corner:  And old customers can also enjoy the gifts sent by my company in a can also request to our company.
Gifts lot,Buy more get the moreOnly this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services".
Your satisfaction is our main pursue.
You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs.Ladies and Gentlemen  weicome  to  my  coolforsale.com.Here,there  are   the   most   fashion   products .
Pass by but don't   miss it.Select  your  favorite  clothing!
Welcome  to come  next   time !
Thank you!
http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76 [coolforsale.com] (Tracksuit w)
ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket,
Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33
Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35
Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35
Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16
free shipping
competitive price
any size available
accept the paypal
Thanks</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162462</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163306</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>vsny</author>
	<datestamp>1258624920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How is this extremely user friendly.  How can you find your files?  It depends on the application service you used?
<br> <br>
Doesn't sound very intuitive it sounds a little complicated.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How is this extremely user friendly .
How can you find your files ?
It depends on the application service you used ?
Does n't sound very intuitive it sounds a little complicated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is this extremely user friendly.
How can you find your files?
It depends on the application service you used?
Doesn't sound very intuitive it sounds a little complicated.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162372</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163008</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258624140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Hard drives" = spinning drives, solid state drives are allowed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Hard drives " = spinning drives , solid state drives are allowed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Hard drives" = spinning drives, solid state drives are allowed.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30168424</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>prockcore</author>
	<datestamp>1258655520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't really understand the complaints.  My laptop is close to useless without the internet anyway.  When the network goes down, I put it up and do something else.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't really understand the complaints .
My laptop is close to useless without the internet anyway .
When the network goes down , I put it up and do something else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't really understand the complaints.
My laptop is close to useless without the internet anyway.
When the network goes down, I put it up and do something else.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162850</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162318</id>
	<title>DOA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258621800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No hard drive, and it's useless without the cloud?</p><p>There are many college campuses where this would not work.  I can't use it while on the road without tethering (or in a hotspot), and I can't use it for anything work related because it all goes to the cloud.</p><p>That fast boot is all for nothing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No hard drive , and it 's useless without the cloud ? There are many college campuses where this would not work .
I ca n't use it while on the road without tethering ( or in a hotspot ) , and I ca n't use it for anything work related because it all goes to the cloud.That fast boot is all for nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No hard drive, and it's useless without the cloud?There are many college campuses where this would not work.
I can't use it while on the road without tethering (or in a hotspot), and I can't use it for anything work related because it all goes to the cloud.That fast boot is all for nothing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163540</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258625640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But this will be useful in some cases (3rd world education, your grandparents, etc) where all your need are webapps, like Gmail, Google Docs, etc. Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.</p></div><p>If you are part of the 3rd world, do you have broadband internet access?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But this will be useful in some cases ( 3rd world education , your grandparents , etc ) where all your need are webapps , like Gmail , Google Docs , etc .
Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.If you are part of the 3rd world , do you have broadband internet access ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But this will be useful in some cases (3rd world education, your grandparents, etc) where all your need are webapps, like Gmail, Google Docs, etc.
Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.If you are part of the 3rd world, do you have broadband internet access?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162462</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163290</id>
	<title>Re:restrictions</title>
	<author>QuantumRiff</author>
	<datestamp>1258624920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They mention to keep it secure, every part of the OS, from the firmware, to the kernel, to the apps will be signed. (to make it impossible to inject code or modules) They can keep their own keys, and just open source the code.  Then, you could fork, and make a Firefox OS or whatever, but you will not have the keys to change the official ChromeOS.</p><p>But the key will be the custom firmware, that can be signed, and required to boot the signed kernel. That would give them a secure way of ensuring that only certain hardware can run the official google OS, and people can test and dink with forks...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They mention to keep it secure , every part of the OS , from the firmware , to the kernel , to the apps will be signed .
( to make it impossible to inject code or modules ) They can keep their own keys , and just open source the code .
Then , you could fork , and make a Firefox OS or whatever , but you will not have the keys to change the official ChromeOS.But the key will be the custom firmware , that can be signed , and required to boot the signed kernel .
That would give them a secure way of ensuring that only certain hardware can run the official google OS , and people can test and dink with forks.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They mention to keep it secure, every part of the OS, from the firmware, to the kernel, to the apps will be signed.
(to make it impossible to inject code or modules) They can keep their own keys, and just open source the code.
Then, you could fork, and make a Firefox OS or whatever, but you will not have the keys to change the official ChromeOS.But the key will be the custom firmware, that can be signed, and required to boot the signed kernel.
That would give them a secure way of ensuring that only certain hardware can run the official google OS, and people can test and dink with forks...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162282</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163060</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258624320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anything that hurts Microsoft's market share is a good thing.</p><p>They need enough competition to care about quality and security, and low enough market share to get more companies doing cross platform.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anything that hurts Microsoft 's market share is a good thing.They need enough competition to care about quality and security , and low enough market share to get more companies doing cross platform .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anything that hurts Microsoft's market share is a good thing.They need enough competition to care about quality and security, and low enough market share to get more companies doing cross platform.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163508</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258625520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This has been tried before and it failed - anyone remember network appliances?  How is this any different?

The client system itself could be infinity fast, and and still provide a poor user experience due to network and cloud latency an throughput issues.  Most consumers will be on broadband or wireless connections with asymmetric speeds and flow control.

Such networks have poor up time - are people really going to be happy with any kind of system that are down a lot?  My comcast connection just stops - for minutes - several times a week.    With a 'real' computer (windows, linux, or mac) the user can still do things local - look at pictures, compose mail, read download mail, write documents, etc. etc.

In contrast, network appliances are useless if the network connection is dead.

Note, This isn't about Chrome versus Linux versus Mac versus Windows.  This is the 'thick' versus 'thin' client thing all over again.

The old network appliance companies also tried this business model - it didn't work then.   Do consumers really want such a limited device?   Are there -really- enough consumers who will want this in addition to a 'real' PC or laptop?  Or who will be satified with only a network appliance?

We shall see.  I'm quite skeptical.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This has been tried before and it failed - anyone remember network appliances ?
How is this any different ?
The client system itself could be infinity fast , and and still provide a poor user experience due to network and cloud latency an throughput issues .
Most consumers will be on broadband or wireless connections with asymmetric speeds and flow control .
Such networks have poor up time - are people really going to be happy with any kind of system that are down a lot ?
My comcast connection just stops - for minutes - several times a week .
With a 'real ' computer ( windows , linux , or mac ) the user can still do things local - look at pictures , compose mail , read download mail , write documents , etc .
etc . In contrast , network appliances are useless if the network connection is dead .
Note , This is n't about Chrome versus Linux versus Mac versus Windows .
This is the 'thick ' versus 'thin ' client thing all over again .
The old network appliance companies also tried this business model - it did n't work then .
Do consumers really want such a limited device ?
Are there -really- enough consumers who will want this in addition to a 'real ' PC or laptop ?
Or who will be satified with only a network appliance ?
We shall see .
I 'm quite skeptical .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This has been tried before and it failed - anyone remember network appliances?
How is this any different?
The client system itself could be infinity fast, and and still provide a poor user experience due to network and cloud latency an throughput issues.
Most consumers will be on broadband or wireless connections with asymmetric speeds and flow control.
Such networks have poor up time - are people really going to be happy with any kind of system that are down a lot?
My comcast connection just stops - for minutes - several times a week.
With a 'real' computer (windows, linux, or mac) the user can still do things local - look at pictures, compose mail, read download mail, write documents, etc.
etc.

In contrast, network appliances are useless if the network connection is dead.
Note, This isn't about Chrome versus Linux versus Mac versus Windows.
This is the 'thick' versus 'thin' client thing all over again.
The old network appliance companies also tried this business model - it didn't work then.
Do consumers really want such a limited device?
Are there -really- enough consumers who will want this in addition to a 'real' PC or laptop?
Or who will be satified with only a network appliance?
We shall see.
I'm quite skeptical.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162328</id>
	<title>Open Source?</title>
	<author>bdsesq</author>
	<datestamp>1258621800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>consumers won't be able to download the operating system</i></p><p>What kind of open source is this if you can't download it?  Looks like Google is calling it open source but trying to control Chromium OS like it was closed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>consumers wo n't be able to download the operating systemWhat kind of open source is this if you ca n't download it ?
Looks like Google is calling it open source but trying to control Chromium OS like it was closed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>consumers won't be able to download the operating systemWhat kind of open source is this if you can't download it?
Looks like Google is calling it open source but trying to control Chromium OS like it was closed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30169476</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>sim82</author>
	<datestamp>1258716660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>On the other hand I don't think that carrying around data on a (normally unencrypted) harddisk naturally is a better solution either...</htmltext>
<tokenext>On the other hand I do n't think that carrying around data on a ( normally unencrypted ) harddisk naturally is a better solution either.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the other hand I don't think that carrying around data on a (normally unencrypted) harddisk naturally is a better solution either...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30168252</id>
	<title>Re:The future is already.</title>
	<author>taoye</author>
	<datestamp>1258653600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You've just walked into an area of the building where you can't get a good wireless connection. I'm sorry, during this temporary drop in Internet access your computer is a brick.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 've just walked into an area of the building where you ca n't get a good wireless connection .
I 'm sorry , during this temporary drop in Internet access your computer is a brick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You've just walked into an area of the building where you can't get a good wireless connection.
I'm sorry, during this temporary drop in Internet access your computer is a brick.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164370</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>bonch</author>
	<datestamp>1258628040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>For likely 90\% of home users, this will be perfect.</p></div></blockquote><p>90\%?!  That's a huge number to pull out of thin air.</p><p>Why would someone want a Linux distro that's restricted to Google web apps and browser when they could just get an alternative Linux distro that can access those same apps on top of everything else?</p><p>People didn't even want web apps for their iPhones, forcing Apple to release a native SDK.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For likely 90 \ % of home users , this will be perfect.90 \ % ? !
That 's a huge number to pull out of thin air.Why would someone want a Linux distro that 's restricted to Google web apps and browser when they could just get an alternative Linux distro that can access those same apps on top of everything else ? People did n't even want web apps for their iPhones , forcing Apple to release a native SDK .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For likely 90\% of home users, this will be perfect.90\%?!
That's a huge number to pull out of thin air.Why would someone want a Linux distro that's restricted to Google web apps and browser when they could just get an alternative Linux distro that can access those same apps on top of everything else?People didn't even want web apps for their iPhones, forcing Apple to release a native SDK.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163230</id>
	<title>http://www.chromium.org/</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258624800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Instructions on creating (downloading and building) your own chrome os are available here &amp; http://www.chromium.org/.  You can build a disk image and mess around with it.  Right now they recommend building on Ubuntu 8.04 or higher 9.10 recommended.  It seems well explained and shouldn't be a problem.</p><p>I might give it a try on my Acer Aspire One netbook tonight or this weekend...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Instructions on creating ( downloading and building ) your own chrome os are available here &amp; http : //www.chromium.org/ .
You can build a disk image and mess around with it .
Right now they recommend building on Ubuntu 8.04 or higher 9.10 recommended .
It seems well explained and should n't be a problem.I might give it a try on my Acer Aspire One netbook tonight or this weekend.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Instructions on creating (downloading and building) your own chrome os are available here &amp; http://www.chromium.org/.
You can build a disk image and mess around with it.
Right now they recommend building on Ubuntu 8.04 or higher 9.10 recommended.
It seems well explained and shouldn't be a problem.I might give it a try on my Acer Aspire One netbook tonight or this weekend...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164712</id>
	<title>webtv all over again?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258629120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't this web tv again?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't this web tv again ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't this web tv again?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164246</id>
	<title>Google OS oriented to the net... what about flash?</title>
	<author>IYagami</author>
	<datestamp>1258627620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, this is an open-source OS with very interesting solutions and oriented to the internet.</p><p>But what about heavy flash sites? Will it include a binary from a company not related to google? Or will they push open-source alternatives to flash?</p><p>I hope its the second alternative... or maybe there is a third one: push for HTML5.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , this is an open-source OS with very interesting solutions and oriented to the internet.But what about heavy flash sites ?
Will it include a binary from a company not related to google ?
Or will they push open-source alternatives to flash ? I hope its the second alternative... or maybe there is a third one : push for HTML5 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, this is an open-source OS with very interesting solutions and oriented to the internet.But what about heavy flash sites?
Will it include a binary from a company not related to google?
Or will they push open-source alternatives to flash?I hope its the second alternative... or maybe there is a third one: push for HTML5.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162870</id>
	<title>Mini Clouds</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258623720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Might not be so bad if they have some plan to let people to set up their own little "mini cloud".<br>Otherwise things like access to data when unable to access the internet, backups, and loss of access to service will be a problem.</p><p>Privacy could become a big problem too. You want your pr0n stash stored on the cloud?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Might not be so bad if they have some plan to let people to set up their own little " mini cloud " .Otherwise things like access to data when unable to access the internet , backups , and loss of access to service will be a problem.Privacy could become a big problem too .
You want your pr0n stash stored on the cloud ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Might not be so bad if they have some plan to let people to set up their own little "mini cloud".Otherwise things like access to data when unable to access the internet, backups, and loss of access to service will be a problem.Privacy could become a big problem too.
You want your pr0n stash stored on the cloud?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165056</id>
	<title>BANG!</title>
	<author>pbjones</author>
	<datestamp>1258630680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...goes the hopes of millions, that Google OS would kill MS. You may as well run Win Mobile or Moblin or iMacOSX.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...goes the hopes of millions , that Google OS would kill MS. You may as well run Win Mobile or Moblin or iMacOSX .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...goes the hopes of millions, that Google OS would kill MS. You may as well run Win Mobile or Moblin or iMacOSX.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162950</id>
	<title>Not necessarily a thin client</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258623960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Google will also allow some data and applications to be accessed offline. Users will be able to listen to music and read eBooks without an internet connection, for example, as well as accessing files stored on USB flash drives. Any application that supports HTML5's offline mode will also be accessible without a net connection.</p></div></blockquote><p>This basically opens up multitudes of possibilities for offline apps.  If you can plug in a USB flash drive, why not a USB hard drive?  If you can store and listen to music offline, why not video?  And if everything runs in the browser, it just means that the API is javascript.  You can do a lot with javascript.

</p><p>Also, being open source means that forks can add whatever regular linux functionality they want.

</p><p>I'm interested in what they're doing with X11.  Anyone looked at the code?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google will also allow some data and applications to be accessed offline .
Users will be able to listen to music and read eBooks without an internet connection , for example , as well as accessing files stored on USB flash drives .
Any application that supports HTML5 's offline mode will also be accessible without a net connection.This basically opens up multitudes of possibilities for offline apps .
If you can plug in a USB flash drive , why not a USB hard drive ?
If you can store and listen to music offline , why not video ?
And if everything runs in the browser , it just means that the API is javascript .
You can do a lot with javascript .
Also , being open source means that forks can add whatever regular linux functionality they want .
I 'm interested in what they 're doing with X11 .
Anyone looked at the code ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google will also allow some data and applications to be accessed offline.
Users will be able to listen to music and read eBooks without an internet connection, for example, as well as accessing files stored on USB flash drives.
Any application that supports HTML5's offline mode will also be accessible without a net connection.This basically opens up multitudes of possibilities for offline apps.
If you can plug in a USB flash drive, why not a USB hard drive?
If you can store and listen to music offline, why not video?
And if everything runs in the browser, it just means that the API is javascript.
You can do a lot with javascript.
Also, being open source means that forks can add whatever regular linux functionality they want.
I'm interested in what they're doing with X11.
Anyone looked at the code?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30203746</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259001240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Itunes would be a problem, but taking photos off a camera is explicitly supported, but the only thing you can do is upload them to an online service like Picassa Web albums or the Photoshop site.<br>As for games, you do realize how many flash games there are out there, not to mention things like the HTML5 games that are just starting to show up.</p><p>For standard games, GaiKai or OnLive might work. (If they don't use flash, but a custom plug-in, then this may require support on Google's end, but I can't image  Google would object to supporting at least one of them to make the OS viable for medium-core gamers.)</p><p>For work at home, I'd be surprised if there was not not flash implementation of RDP or VNC, which would allow it to be used for that too in a pinch.</p><p>But overall the OS is still intended for a netbook or tablet style appliance, with the presumption that you still have a normal computer too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Itunes would be a problem , but taking photos off a camera is explicitly supported , but the only thing you can do is upload them to an online service like Picassa Web albums or the Photoshop site.As for games , you do realize how many flash games there are out there , not to mention things like the HTML5 games that are just starting to show up.For standard games , GaiKai or OnLive might work .
( If they do n't use flash , but a custom plug-in , then this may require support on Google 's end , but I ca n't image Google would object to supporting at least one of them to make the OS viable for medium-core gamers .
) For work at home , I 'd be surprised if there was not not flash implementation of RDP or VNC , which would allow it to be used for that too in a pinch.But overall the OS is still intended for a netbook or tablet style appliance , with the presumption that you still have a normal computer too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Itunes would be a problem, but taking photos off a camera is explicitly supported, but the only thing you can do is upload them to an online service like Picassa Web albums or the Photoshop site.As for games, you do realize how many flash games there are out there, not to mention things like the HTML5 games that are just starting to show up.For standard games, GaiKai or OnLive might work.
(If they don't use flash, but a custom plug-in, then this may require support on Google's end, but I can't image  Google would object to supporting at least one of them to make the OS viable for medium-core gamers.
)For work at home, I'd be surprised if there was not not flash implementation of RDP or VNC, which would allow it to be used for that too in a pinch.But overall the OS is still intended for a netbook or tablet style appliance, with the presumption that you still have a normal computer too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163818</id>
	<title>Yay let's create a big single point of failure!</title>
	<author>yoma666</author>
	<datestamp>1258626480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Today users can still get at least *some* work done without being connected.
This is another big step towards a single point of failure the likes of which we have never seen in entire human history.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Today users can still get at least * some * work done without being connected .
This is another big step towards a single point of failure the likes of which we have never seen in entire human history .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Today users can still get at least *some* work done without being connected.
This is another big step towards a single point of failure the likes of which we have never seen in entire human history.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167200</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit,Christmas gifts,shoes,handbag</title>
	<author>coolforsale114</author>
	<datestamp>1258642020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/</a> [coolforsale.com]   Christmas is around the corner: And old customers can also enjoy the gifts sent by my company in a can also request to our company. Gifts lot,Buy more get the moreOnly this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services". Your satisfaction is our main pursue. You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs. Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products . Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing! Welcome to come next time ! Thank you! <a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp</a> [coolforsale.com] [coolforsale.com] [coolforsale.com]? id=s76 (Tracksuit w) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket, Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33 Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35 Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35 Tshirts (Polo<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 free shipping competitive price any size available accept the paypal Thanks</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.coolforsale.com/ [ coolforsale.com ] Christmas is around the corner : And old customers can also enjoy the gifts sent by my company in a can also request to our company .
Gifts lot,Buy more get the moreOnly this site have this treatmentOur goal is " Best quality , Best reputation , Best services " .
Your satisfaction is our main pursue .
You can find the best products from us , meeting your different needs .
Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but do n't miss it.Select your favorite clothing !
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you !
http : //www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp [ coolforsale.com ] [ coolforsale.com ] [ coolforsale.com ] ?
id = s76 ( Tracksuit w ) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket , Air jordan ( 1-24 ) shoes $ 33 Nike shox ( R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3 ) $ 35 Handbags ( Coach lv fendi d&amp;g ) $ 35 Tshirts ( Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste ) $ 16 free shipping competitive price any size available accept the paypal Thanks</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.coolforsale.com/ [coolforsale.com]   Christmas is around the corner: And old customers can also enjoy the gifts sent by my company in a can also request to our company.
Gifts lot,Buy more get the moreOnly this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services".
Your satisfaction is our main pursue.
You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs.
Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing!
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you!
http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp [coolforsale.com] [coolforsale.com] [coolforsale.com]?
id=s76 (Tracksuit w) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket, Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33 Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35 Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35 Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 free shipping competitive price any size available accept the paypal Thanks</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30170976</id>
	<title>All my fears coming true</title>
	<author>Xamusk</author>
	<datestamp>1258732020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have been fearful this would come since the first "nettop" concept.

People don't really realise how <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/20/opinion/20zittrain.html?\_r=2&amp;scp=1&amp;sq=zittrain&amp;st=cse" title="nytimes.com" rel="nofollow">dangerous</a> [nytimes.com] having everything "on the cloud" can be.
Well, some people do, like the recent <a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/10/11/0335210&amp;tid=170" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Sidekick</a> [slashdot.org] shows us.

<p>Yet, most people don't get it. Historically, the main motivation for the birth of the internet was specifically to avoid the dreaded Single Point of Failure. What we see in the cloud concept is exactly the opposite. The cloud can (and statistically it will) eat your data, along with everyone's else. What if a whole contry's data infrastructure is in one failed cloud? </p><p>
Do you trust one company to be better at handling YOUR data than yourself? Do you trust it will never be <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8292928.stm" title="bbc.co.uk" rel="nofollow">hacked</a> [bbc.co.uk]? Do you trust it <a href="http://www.centernetworks.com/gmail-down-google-mail" title="centernetworks.com" rel="nofollow">will always be online</a> [centernetworks.com]? Do you trust nobody will <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/11/02/1411252/An-Inbox-Is-Not-a-Glove-Compartment?art\_pos=1" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">access it without your consent</a> [slashdot.org]?
</p><p>
I don't. You shouldn't.
</p><p>
Also, what happens when you get without internet access? What happens when power is out? (my laptop can run for two hours on battery, my router won't) <br>
What happens when the three-strikes law passes? Not if, given current state of affairs. Will you be locked out of all your data? What when you put all your family HD movies in the cloud, will you need to have fiber to watch it with good quality?
</p><p>
Also, economically that's a catastrophe. The cloud will maintain some companies basically with a monopoly on YOUR data. It will destroy the whole industry based on standalone software. Don't be mislead: you WILL have to pay to get even the most basic software running. Many companies already do that with auto-deactivating software. The cloud will only make it easier.</p><p>
And for those who think the comment above looks like some doomsday dark sci-fi story, I advice to take a look around. Things are already happening. One doesn't have to dig deep to find news of what's already happening.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have been fearful this would come since the first " nettop " concept .
People do n't really realise how dangerous [ nytimes.com ] having everything " on the cloud " can be .
Well , some people do , like the recent Sidekick [ slashdot.org ] shows us .
Yet , most people do n't get it .
Historically , the main motivation for the birth of the internet was specifically to avoid the dreaded Single Point of Failure .
What we see in the cloud concept is exactly the opposite .
The cloud can ( and statistically it will ) eat your data , along with everyone 's else .
What if a whole contry 's data infrastructure is in one failed cloud ?
Do you trust one company to be better at handling YOUR data than yourself ?
Do you trust it will never be hacked [ bbc.co.uk ] ?
Do you trust it will always be online [ centernetworks.com ] ?
Do you trust nobody will access it without your consent [ slashdot.org ] ?
I do n't .
You should n't .
Also , what happens when you get without internet access ?
What happens when power is out ?
( my laptop can run for two hours on battery , my router wo n't ) What happens when the three-strikes law passes ?
Not if , given current state of affairs .
Will you be locked out of all your data ?
What when you put all your family HD movies in the cloud , will you need to have fiber to watch it with good quality ?
Also , economically that 's a catastrophe .
The cloud will maintain some companies basically with a monopoly on YOUR data .
It will destroy the whole industry based on standalone software .
Do n't be mislead : you WILL have to pay to get even the most basic software running .
Many companies already do that with auto-deactivating software .
The cloud will only make it easier .
And for those who think the comment above looks like some doomsday dark sci-fi story , I advice to take a look around .
Things are already happening .
One does n't have to dig deep to find news of what 's already happening .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have been fearful this would come since the first "nettop" concept.
People don't really realise how dangerous [nytimes.com] having everything "on the cloud" can be.
Well, some people do, like the recent Sidekick [slashdot.org] shows us.
Yet, most people don't get it.
Historically, the main motivation for the birth of the internet was specifically to avoid the dreaded Single Point of Failure.
What we see in the cloud concept is exactly the opposite.
The cloud can (and statistically it will) eat your data, along with everyone's else.
What if a whole contry's data infrastructure is in one failed cloud?
Do you trust one company to be better at handling YOUR data than yourself?
Do you trust it will never be hacked [bbc.co.uk]?
Do you trust it will always be online [centernetworks.com]?
Do you trust nobody will access it without your consent [slashdot.org]?
I don't.
You shouldn't.
Also, what happens when you get without internet access?
What happens when power is out?
(my laptop can run for two hours on battery, my router won't) 
What happens when the three-strikes law passes?
Not if, given current state of affairs.
Will you be locked out of all your data?
What when you put all your family HD movies in the cloud, will you need to have fiber to watch it with good quality?
Also, economically that's a catastrophe.
The cloud will maintain some companies basically with a monopoly on YOUR data.
It will destroy the whole industry based on standalone software.
Don't be mislead: you WILL have to pay to get even the most basic software running.
Many companies already do that with auto-deactivating software.
The cloud will only make it easier.
And for those who think the comment above looks like some doomsday dark sci-fi story, I advice to take a look around.
Things are already happening.
One doesn't have to dig deep to find news of what's already happening.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163804</id>
	<title>Skate to where the puck is going to be.</title>
	<author>No. 24601</author>
	<datestamp>1258626420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To slightly reword a quote by The Great One (that's Wayne Gretzky to everyone else<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)... a quote that also happens to be one of Jobs' favorite.</p><p>Looks like Google is building an operating system in anticipation of the ubiquitous Internet and optimizing it for that purpose alone. That's to say, wireless available everywhere and hopefully dirt cheap. Maybe they believe that's gonna happen just about late 2010.</p><p>Wouldn't be surprising given competition by upcoming networks like Clearwire WiMax.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>To slightly reword a quote by The Great One ( that 's Wayne Gretzky to everyone else : ) ... a quote that also happens to be one of Jobs ' favorite.Looks like Google is building an operating system in anticipation of the ubiquitous Internet and optimizing it for that purpose alone .
That 's to say , wireless available everywhere and hopefully dirt cheap .
Maybe they believe that 's gon na happen just about late 2010.Would n't be surprising given competition by upcoming networks like Clearwire WiMax .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To slightly reword a quote by The Great One (that's Wayne Gretzky to everyone else :)... a quote that also happens to be one of Jobs' favorite.Looks like Google is building an operating system in anticipation of the ubiquitous Internet and optimizing it for that purpose alone.
That's to say, wireless available everywhere and hopefully dirt cheap.
Maybe they believe that's gonna happen just about late 2010.Wouldn't be surprising given competition by upcoming networks like Clearwire WiMax.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164300</id>
	<title>Re:restrictions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258627800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Depends on the licence,<br>for example Logitech/slim devices has an open source remote control that runs on for example Nokia Maemo and could be used for others,<br>they have made the source free but the licencing forbids binary distribution from anyone else than themselves.</p><p>You cannot fork the licence, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Depends on the licence,for example Logitech/slim devices has an open source remote control that runs on for example Nokia Maemo and could be used for others,they have made the source free but the licencing forbids binary distribution from anyone else than themselves.You can not fork the licence , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depends on the licence,for example Logitech/slim devices has an open source remote control that runs on for example Nokia Maemo and could be used for others,they have made the source free but the licencing forbids binary distribution from anyone else than themselves.You cannot fork the licence, right?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162282</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164506</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>fm6</author>
	<datestamp>1258628460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're talking backward compatibility with existing applications. By that measure, Windows is the most perfect OS in the history. But if you ignore the specific applications that are currently only supported on current OSs, the limitations you mention don't exist. ITunes might not run on a web-based OS, but there are certainly web-based ways of doing the same thing. There are already a lot of video games that run in web browsers. (The high-end games never will, but then they won't run on most home machines now.) No reason a web app couldn't access memory cards or USB devices. And if your job requires you to run some workplace application that is only available on Windows, you can run on a workplace machine via a terminal server &mdash; something your IT department would prefer that you did anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're talking backward compatibility with existing applications .
By that measure , Windows is the most perfect OS in the history .
But if you ignore the specific applications that are currently only supported on current OSs , the limitations you mention do n't exist .
ITunes might not run on a web-based OS , but there are certainly web-based ways of doing the same thing .
There are already a lot of video games that run in web browsers .
( The high-end games never will , but then they wo n't run on most home machines now .
) No reason a web app could n't access memory cards or USB devices .
And if your job requires you to run some workplace application that is only available on Windows , you can run on a workplace machine via a terminal server    something your IT department would prefer that you did anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're talking backward compatibility with existing applications.
By that measure, Windows is the most perfect OS in the history.
But if you ignore the specific applications that are currently only supported on current OSs, the limitations you mention don't exist.
ITunes might not run on a web-based OS, but there are certainly web-based ways of doing the same thing.
There are already a lot of video games that run in web browsers.
(The high-end games never will, but then they won't run on most home machines now.
) No reason a web app couldn't access memory cards or USB devices.
And if your job requires you to run some workplace application that is only available on Windows, you can run on a workplace machine via a terminal server — something your IT department would prefer that you did anyway.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162906</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162562</id>
	<title>Obligatory TFTFY</title>
	<author>w0mprat</author>
	<datestamp>1258622640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>consumers won't be able to download the operating system <b>for long</b></p> </div><p>TFTFY</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>consumers wo n't be able to download the operating system for long TFTFY</tokentext>
<sentencetext>consumers won't be able to download the operating system for long TFTFY
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165136</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>unkiereamus</author>
	<datestamp>1258631040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, actually...or at least, it does where I live.

Here in Honduras, I have my option of two different cell phone providers who offer UTMS and HSDPA access. In fact, I use one of them for my primary connection.

I pay about 45USD/month for 32Gs of bandwidth, though the prices go as low as about 12USD/month for I believe 2G.

The speed and latency certainly don't compare to FiOS, but it really is quite respectable.

As for reliability, well...it goes out less often than the power...actually, it's down an average of about 6 hours/month. I know that might seem like a horrible amount to some, but note my comment about the power.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , actually...or at least , it does where I live .
Here in Honduras , I have my option of two different cell phone providers who offer UTMS and HSDPA access .
In fact , I use one of them for my primary connection .
I pay about 45USD/month for 32Gs of bandwidth , though the prices go as low as about 12USD/month for I believe 2G .
The speed and latency certainly do n't compare to FiOS , but it really is quite respectable .
As for reliability , well...it goes out less often than the power...actually , it 's down an average of about 6 hours/month .
I know that might seem like a horrible amount to some , but note my comment about the power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, actually...or at least, it does where I live.
Here in Honduras, I have my option of two different cell phone providers who offer UTMS and HSDPA access.
In fact, I use one of them for my primary connection.
I pay about 45USD/month for 32Gs of bandwidth, though the prices go as low as about 12USD/month for I believe 2G.
The speed and latency certainly don't compare to FiOS, but it really is quite respectable.
As for reliability, well...it goes out less often than the power...actually, it's down an average of about 6 hours/month.
I know that might seem like a horrible amount to some, but note my comment about the power.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162850</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30170972</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>jacksinn</author>
	<datestamp>1258732020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am certainly not happy with Google right now. As soon as I read that I thought 'APPLE!'. Just because I like a lot of their products doesn't mean I support this move. I'll just stick with Fedora and Ubuntu and see if any group decides to recompile the Chromium OS and offer it for all platforms.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am certainly not happy with Google right now .
As soon as I read that I thought 'APPLE ! ' .
Just because I like a lot of their products does n't mean I support this move .
I 'll just stick with Fedora and Ubuntu and see if any group decides to recompile the Chromium OS and offer it for all platforms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am certainly not happy with Google right now.
As soon as I read that I thought 'APPLE!'.
Just because I like a lot of their products doesn't mean I support this move.
I'll just stick with Fedora and Ubuntu and see if any group decides to recompile the Chromium OS and offer it for all platforms.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164312</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30170648</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>tompeach</author>
	<datestamp>1258730340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But this will be useful in some cases (3rd world education, your grandparents, etc) where all your need are webapps, like Gmail, Google Docs, etc. Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.</p></div><p>3rd world education would benefit from a netbook that requires a reliable internet connection?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But this will be useful in some cases ( 3rd world education , your grandparents , etc ) where all your need are webapps , like Gmail , Google Docs , etc .
Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.3rd world education would benefit from a netbook that requires a reliable internet connection ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But this will be useful in some cases (3rd world education, your grandparents, etc) where all your need are webapps, like Gmail, Google Docs, etc.
Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.3rd world education would benefit from a netbook that requires a reliable internet connection?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162462</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162480</id>
	<title>Who would use this?</title>
	<author>Z1NG</author>
	<datestamp>1258622400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't see myself using this type of "OS" anytime soon, and I imagine a lot of other people are in the same boat.  Who would use this?  I guess schools would be a good candidate.  It seems like they could use lower quality hardware, and most schools have awesome internet connections.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see myself using this type of " OS " anytime soon , and I imagine a lot of other people are in the same boat .
Who would use this ?
I guess schools would be a good candidate .
It seems like they could use lower quality hardware , and most schools have awesome internet connections .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see myself using this type of "OS" anytime soon, and I imagine a lot of other people are in the same boat.
Who would use this?
I guess schools would be a good candidate.
It seems like they could use lower quality hardware, and most schools have awesome internet connections.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163908</id>
	<title>Fork #1</title>
	<author>Enderandrew</author>
	<datestamp>1258626720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hearby announce the very first fork of ChromeOS.</p><p>I have replaced the entire source with:</p><p>#include </p><p>main()<br>{<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; for(;;)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; {<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; printf ("Natalie Portman and hot grits, oh my!\n");<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; }<br>}</p><p>I will be providing a full patch shortly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hearby announce the very first fork of ChromeOS.I have replaced the entire source with : # include main ( ) {     for ( ; ; )             {                     printf ( " Natalie Portman and hot grits , oh my ! \ n " ) ;             } } I will be providing a full patch shortly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hearby announce the very first fork of ChromeOS.I have replaced the entire source with:#include main(){
    for(;;)
            {
                    printf ("Natalie Portman and hot grits, oh my!\n");
            }}I will be providing a full patch shortly.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162390</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258622100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I think most people will stick with Windows and proper GNU/Linux netbooks.</p></div><p>Those Linux netbooks are geting harder and harder to find. I, for one, welcome our Google Overlords and their lightweight non-Borg netbooks.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think most people will stick with Windows and proper GNU/Linux netbooks.Those Linux netbooks are geting harder and harder to find .
I , for one , welcome our Google Overlords and their lightweight non-Borg netbooks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think most people will stick with Windows and proper GNU/Linux netbooks.Those Linux netbooks are geting harder and harder to find.
I, for one, welcome our Google Overlords and their lightweight non-Borg netbooks.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162218</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163976</id>
	<title>Server?</title>
	<author>mwvdlee</author>
	<datestamp>1258626900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With the OS effectively being a thin client and both applications and data on the server, the question is "who controls the server?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With the OS effectively being a thin client and both applications and data on the server , the question is " who controls the server ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With the OS effectively being a thin client and both applications and data on the server, the question is "who controls the server?
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162586</id>
	<title>AmigaOS users UNITE!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258622700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Hard disks are banned</p></div><p>But not floppies!!<br>
I new sticking with the Amiga all these years would pay off!! I finally have a use for all these "Floppy" disks!!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hard disks are bannedBut not floppies ! !
I new sticking with the Amiga all these years would pay off ! !
I finally have a use for all these " Floppy " disks !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hard disks are bannedBut not floppies!!
I new sticking with the Amiga all these years would pay off!!
I finally have a use for all these "Floppy" disks!
!
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162732</id>
	<title>Lookup what "open source" means.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258623120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The difference:</p><p>I can download the Chrome OS source code and do whatever I want to it, and run it on whatever hardware I want.<br>Apple gives NO ONE any choice, you either buy Apple hardware or you are S.O.L.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The difference : I can download the Chrome OS source code and do whatever I want to it , and run it on whatever hardware I want.Apple gives NO ONE any choice , you either buy Apple hardware or you are S.O.L .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The difference:I can download the Chrome OS source code and do whatever I want to it, and run it on whatever hardware I want.Apple gives NO ONE any choice, you either buy Apple hardware or you are S.O.L.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162280</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163658</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>massysett</author>
	<datestamp>1258625940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No way. A very large segment of home users need iTunes to sync with their iPod and iPhone, play video games, take photos off their cameras, work from home, etc.</p></div><p>Absolutely. For that they can use Windows computer that's in the basement. Maybe the Chrome OS computer goes in the kitchen, or the bathroom (yuck).</p><p>There's no reason a home can't have more computers. Already many homes have more television sets than human occupants.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No way .
A very large segment of home users need iTunes to sync with their iPod and iPhone , play video games , take photos off their cameras , work from home , etc.Absolutely .
For that they can use Windows computer that 's in the basement .
Maybe the Chrome OS computer goes in the kitchen , or the bathroom ( yuck ) .There 's no reason a home ca n't have more computers .
Already many homes have more television sets than human occupants .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No way.
A very large segment of home users need iTunes to sync with their iPod and iPhone, play video games, take photos off their cameras, work from home, etc.Absolutely.
For that they can use Windows computer that's in the basement.
Maybe the Chrome OS computer goes in the kitchen, or the bathroom (yuck).There's no reason a home can't have more computers.
Already many homes have more television sets than human occupants.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162502</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>should\_be\_linear</author>
	<datestamp>1258622460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, because what Joe Sixpack needs is Antivirus, endless straem of updates, burning backups of mail and documents and restoring it later, and rest of that shit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , because what Joe Sixpack needs is Antivirus , endless straem of updates , burning backups of mail and documents and restoring it later , and rest of that shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, because what Joe Sixpack needs is Antivirus, endless straem of updates, burning backups of mail and documents and restoring it later, and rest of that shit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162218</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162900</id>
	<title>The future is already.</title>
	<author>Nobo</author>
	<datestamp>1258623780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Gmail wins mail.<br>Google docs provides a position in the office market.<br>Google Wave provides a shared, collaborative team synchronization system.<br>Google Voice provides a complete solution replacement for all phones.<br>Android positions Google in the handheld market.<br>Cell providers cut Google a sweet deal for ad revenue sharing (well documented already)<br>Cell providers cut Google a deal to resell wireless at their whim. (well documented)<br>Chromium OS excludes local storage, relies on cloud computing, ties to ubiquitous wireless data access resold by Google.</p><p>Screw the future.  It's not "still coming."  With Chromium OS, Google just <i>implemented</i> ubiquitous, disposable, always-on, wireless computing, collaborating, and calling for the masses, who need never again fear their computer breaking, their hard drive eating their data, or nearly anything else.<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr><i>...and from this future there will be no escape.</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Gmail wins mail.Google docs provides a position in the office market.Google Wave provides a shared , collaborative team synchronization system.Google Voice provides a complete solution replacement for all phones.Android positions Google in the handheld market.Cell providers cut Google a sweet deal for ad revenue sharing ( well documented already ) Cell providers cut Google a deal to resell wireless at their whim .
( well documented ) Chromium OS excludes local storage , relies on cloud computing , ties to ubiquitous wireless data access resold by Google.Screw the future .
It 's not " still coming .
" With Chromium OS , Google just implemented ubiquitous , disposable , always-on , wireless computing , collaborating , and calling for the masses , who need never again fear their computer breaking , their hard drive eating their data , or nearly anything else .
...and from this future there will be no escape .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gmail wins mail.Google docs provides a position in the office market.Google Wave provides a shared, collaborative team synchronization system.Google Voice provides a complete solution replacement for all phones.Android positions Google in the handheld market.Cell providers cut Google a sweet deal for ad revenue sharing (well documented already)Cell providers cut Google a deal to resell wireless at their whim.
(well documented)Chromium OS excludes local storage, relies on cloud computing, ties to ubiquitous wireless data access resold by Google.Screw the future.
It's not "still coming.
"  With Chromium OS, Google just implemented ubiquitous, disposable, always-on, wireless computing, collaborating, and calling for the masses, who need never again fear their computer breaking, their hard drive eating their data, or nearly anything else.
...and from this future there will be no escape.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164176</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>brkello</author>
	<datestamp>1258627440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why can't they have "an app for that".  A web app for iTunes that stores your songs on google's servers or a place to store your pictures.  It will play app based video games rather than games we have now.  You aren't thinking big enough.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ca n't they have " an app for that " .
A web app for iTunes that stores your songs on google 's servers or a place to store your pictures .
It will play app based video games rather than games we have now .
You are n't thinking big enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why can't they have "an app for that".
A web app for iTunes that stores your songs on google's servers or a place to store your pictures.
It will play app based video games rather than games we have now.
You aren't thinking big enough.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162906</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30170428</id>
	<title>Why bother with computer? G implant</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1258729020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps Google should not bother with these things doing backwards things like booting and launching browser... If they implant a "Google chip" into our brains, we will wake up and whatever we wonder will be searched in Google properties and injected into our thoughts with Google adsense mixed in middle of them.</p><p>Calling this insane? Watch people lining up for Google powered FREE netbooks next year, especially 8-13 year old kids...</p><p>Dear EFF: Remember what you are supposed to do? That "powered by Google" searchbox on your site, start with removing it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps Google should not bother with these things doing backwards things like booting and launching browser... If they implant a " Google chip " into our brains , we will wake up and whatever we wonder will be searched in Google properties and injected into our thoughts with Google adsense mixed in middle of them.Calling this insane ?
Watch people lining up for Google powered FREE netbooks next year , especially 8-13 year old kids...Dear EFF : Remember what you are supposed to do ?
That " powered by Google " searchbox on your site , start with removing it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps Google should not bother with these things doing backwards things like booting and launching browser... If they implant a "Google chip" into our brains, we will wake up and whatever we wonder will be searched in Google properties and injected into our thoughts with Google adsense mixed in middle of them.Calling this insane?
Watch people lining up for Google powered FREE netbooks next year, especially 8-13 year old kids...Dear EFF: Remember what you are supposed to do?
That "powered by Google" searchbox on your site, start with removing it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163032</id>
	<title>Re:Going back to sleep now...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258624200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This situation is a bit different though.  In the past companies like IBM and Sun tried to push thin clients first while at the same time trying to explain how one could/should build the network around them.  In this case Google has built the network (momentum) and is now creating the clients that operate on it.  In other words, they're working it backwards compared to previous attempts.</p><p>I'm not sure if it will work any better but lots of people seem happy with things like Gmail and such.  I have to admit that I'm even getting sucked into it a bit just because it's so convenient (it's the calendar/contacts/mail syncing to my phone that is so useful to me [makes it easy to wipe my phone and restore everything too]... even though I hate Google having so much information on me).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This situation is a bit different though .
In the past companies like IBM and Sun tried to push thin clients first while at the same time trying to explain how one could/should build the network around them .
In this case Google has built the network ( momentum ) and is now creating the clients that operate on it .
In other words , they 're working it backwards compared to previous attempts.I 'm not sure if it will work any better but lots of people seem happy with things like Gmail and such .
I have to admit that I 'm even getting sucked into it a bit just because it 's so convenient ( it 's the calendar/contacts/mail syncing to my phone that is so useful to me [ makes it easy to wipe my phone and restore everything too ] ... even though I hate Google having so much information on me ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This situation is a bit different though.
In the past companies like IBM and Sun tried to push thin clients first while at the same time trying to explain how one could/should build the network around them.
In this case Google has built the network (momentum) and is now creating the clients that operate on it.
In other words, they're working it backwards compared to previous attempts.I'm not sure if it will work any better but lots of people seem happy with things like Gmail and such.
I have to admit that I'm even getting sucked into it a bit just because it's so convenient (it's the calendar/contacts/mail syncing to my phone that is so useful to me [makes it easy to wipe my phone and restore everything too]... even though I hate Google having so much information on me).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162286</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162276</id>
	<title>Sounds pretty limited</title>
	<author>Lonewolf666</author>
	<datestamp>1258621620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course, if they keep releasing the source it may not <i>stay</i> limited.<br>I wonder if this is going to stay a genuine Open Source OS or if Google will pull an Apple and gradually go back on the openness.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , if they keep releasing the source it may not stay limited.I wonder if this is going to stay a genuine Open Source OS or if Google will pull an Apple and gradually go back on the openness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, if they keep releasing the source it may not stay limited.I wonder if this is going to stay a genuine Open Source OS or if Google will pull an Apple and gradually go back on the openness.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30166096</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>ducomputergeek</author>
	<datestamp>1258635060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.opensource.apple.com/" title="apple.com">http://www.opensource.apple.com/</a> [apple.com]</p><p>I think you can download the core of their operating system.  Google has said released under opensource.  It has said nothing about using the GPL.  They could use Apache or some derivative there of and still be "opensource", but it won't be ChromeOS unless on their approved hardware.</p><p>We have a client that was using a web based POS and moving back to one that runs on their local lan.  Why?  If they lost  their internet for any reason, they're business is dead in the water.  They can't process transactions.  Now they are still using a web-based ERP solution, but if they loose internet they can still process transactions.  They're store's info just doesn't sync with the ERP until the internet comes back up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.opensource.apple.com/ [ apple.com ] I think you can download the core of their operating system .
Google has said released under opensource .
It has said nothing about using the GPL .
They could use Apache or some derivative there of and still be " opensource " , but it wo n't be ChromeOS unless on their approved hardware.We have a client that was using a web based POS and moving back to one that runs on their local lan .
Why ? If they lost their internet for any reason , they 're business is dead in the water .
They ca n't process transactions .
Now they are still using a web-based ERP solution , but if they loose internet they can still process transactions .
They 're store 's info just does n't sync with the ERP until the internet comes back up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.opensource.apple.com/ [apple.com]I think you can download the core of their operating system.
Google has said released under opensource.
It has said nothing about using the GPL.
They could use Apache or some derivative there of and still be "opensource", but it won't be ChromeOS unless on their approved hardware.We have a client that was using a web based POS and moving back to one that runs on their local lan.
Why?  If they lost  their internet for any reason, they're business is dead in the water.
They can't process transactions.
Now they are still using a web-based ERP solution, but if they loose internet they can still process transactions.
They're store's info just doesn't sync with the ERP until the internet comes back up.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162698</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162208</id>
	<title>Hmm..</title>
	<author>windex82</author>
	<datestamp>1258621440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interesting</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interesting</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interesting</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163148</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258624560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Much as kdawson and soulskill are aggressively pursuing their thirst for gay cocks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Much as kdawson and soulskill are aggressively pursuing their thirst for gay cocks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Much as kdawson and soulskill are aggressively pursuing their thirst for gay cocks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163746</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>fons</author>
	<datestamp>1258626240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>90\% of home users?</p><p>- What about music? All your music in the cloud? That'll be a nice upload<br>- What about video?</p><p>A LOT of basic home users use these things and I don't see it going in the cloud.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>90 \ % of home users ? - What about music ?
All your music in the cloud ?
That 'll be a nice upload- What about video ? A LOT of basic home users use these things and I do n't see it going in the cloud .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>90\% of home users?- What about music?
All your music in the cloud?
That'll be a nice upload- What about video?A LOT of basic home users use these things and I don't see it going in the cloud.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162372</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163892</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>nloop</author>
	<datestamp>1258626660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You can download the source to hack it, but you can't make an installable image as you can't cryptographically sign it for their okay.  They're only planning this to be a bought with hardware purchase.</p><p>Sound familiar?  It should, it's basically the Apple experience made into a net appliance.</p></div><p>Why do you say that?  If they handle this operating system in any way like their current operating system option (Android) it would actually be quite free and open.  In fact, T-Mobile is slow to roll out updates, so I downloaded and built Android 2.0 from Google's git repository a few days after it was released.  They actually document the whole process quite well.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can download the source to hack it , but you ca n't make an installable image as you ca n't cryptographically sign it for their okay .
They 're only planning this to be a bought with hardware purchase.Sound familiar ?
It should , it 's basically the Apple experience made into a net appliance.Why do you say that ?
If they handle this operating system in any way like their current operating system option ( Android ) it would actually be quite free and open .
In fact , T-Mobile is slow to roll out updates , so I downloaded and built Android 2.0 from Google 's git repository a few days after it was released .
They actually document the whole process quite well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can download the source to hack it, but you can't make an installable image as you can't cryptographically sign it for their okay.
They're only planning this to be a bought with hardware purchase.Sound familiar?
It should, it's basically the Apple experience made into a net appliance.Why do you say that?
If they handle this operating system in any way like their current operating system option (Android) it would actually be quite free and open.
In fact, T-Mobile is slow to roll out updates, so I downloaded and built Android 2.0 from Google's git repository a few days after it was released.
They actually document the whole process quite well.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162372</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165742</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>chabotc</author>
	<datestamp>1258633500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You could also use bing for search, zoho for docs, yahoo mail for email and, well the good thing of the web is that there's many choices for pretty much anything, you could even run your own servers if you'd really want too (though economically speaking there is a benefit to letting some big party do that for you)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You could also use bing for search , zoho for docs , yahoo mail for email and , well the good thing of the web is that there 's many choices for pretty much anything , you could even run your own servers if you 'd really want too ( though economically speaking there is a benefit to letting some big party do that for you )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could also use bing for search, zoho for docs, yahoo mail for email and, well the good thing of the web is that there's many choices for pretty much anything, you could even run your own servers if you'd really want too (though economically speaking there is a benefit to letting some big party do that for you)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30168416</id>
	<title>Re:Going back to sleep now...</title>
	<author>Tolkien</author>
	<datestamp>1258655400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thus the emergence of the word "underwhelmed".</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thus the emergence of the word " underwhelmed " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thus the emergence of the word "underwhelmed".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162286</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165336</id>
	<title>Why target just netbooks?</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1258631760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why would Google just target netbooks? In some ways, desktops are just as good a place to put Chrome OS, since you tend to have perfect, uninterrupted wired internet on desktops, so you can do much of your cloud work with the same stability you would get from offline work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would Google just target netbooks ?
In some ways , desktops are just as good a place to put Chrome OS , since you tend to have perfect , uninterrupted wired internet on desktops , so you can do much of your cloud work with the same stability you would get from offline work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would Google just target netbooks?
In some ways, desktops are just as good a place to put Chrome OS, since you tend to have perfect, uninterrupted wired internet on desktops, so you can do much of your cloud work with the same stability you would get from offline work.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162218</id>
	<title>Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258621500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think most people will stick with Windows and proper GNU/Linux netbooks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think most people will stick with Windows and proper GNU/Linux netbooks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think most people will stick with Windows and proper GNU/Linux netbooks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165618</id>
	<title>Re:Games? Java?</title>
	<author>chabotc</author>
	<datestamp>1258632960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>web os<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... please repeat this statement until it reaches your brain.</p><p>there's no java, no native code, just web apps, you know, html, css &amp; js?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>web os ... please repeat this statement until it reaches your brain.there 's no java , no native code , just web apps , you know , html , css &amp; js ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>web os ... please repeat this statement until it reaches your brain.there's no java, no native code, just web apps, you know, html, css &amp; js?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163154</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30169250</id>
	<title>Thank you Google!</title>
	<author>TheWin32Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1258712880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For creating one of the most limited PC operating systems of all time (with ads too) !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For creating one of the most limited PC operating systems of all time ( with ads too ) !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For creating one of the most limited PC operating systems of all time (with ads too) !</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162866</id>
	<title>Coming Full Circle</title>
	<author>kdogg73</author>
	<datestamp>1258623660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is cloud computing returning our computers to the dumb terminals once were? A login and password anywhere will take you to ALL your digital media.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is cloud computing returning our computers to the dumb terminals once were ?
A login and password anywhere will take you to ALL your digital media .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is cloud computing returning our computers to the dumb terminals once were?
A login and password anywhere will take you to ALL your digital media.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163832</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258626480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google is giving away the source for free.  There's your difference.</p><p>You can make it work with any hardware you want, as long as YOU work on it, and they don't have to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google is giving away the source for free .
There 's your difference.You can make it work with any hardware you want , as long as YOU work on it , and they do n't have to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google is giving away the source for free.
There's your difference.You can make it work with any hardware you want, as long as YOU work on it, and they don't have to.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162280</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162932</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258623960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All that means is that you shouldn't run it.  But that doesn't mean you can't make money off all the suckers who don't know better.</p><p>The key crap like this (just like the iPhone) is <em>don't eat your own dog food</em>, and you should be ok.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All that means is that you should n't run it .
But that does n't mean you ca n't make money off all the suckers who do n't know better.The key crap like this ( just like the iPhone ) is do n't eat your own dog food , and you should be ok .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All that means is that you shouldn't run it.
But that doesn't mean you can't make money off all the suckers who don't know better.The key crap like this (just like the iPhone) is don't eat your own dog food, and you should be ok.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30166962</id>
	<title>This is all about history being cyclic..</title>
	<author>stillpixel</author>
	<datestamp>1258640040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We moved away from mainframes and dumb terminals to desktop computers and now we are moving back again... (cloud computing and the like) after the love affair has ended with that we will be moving back to the equivalent of the desktop computer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We moved away from mainframes and dumb terminals to desktop computers and now we are moving back again... ( cloud computing and the like ) after the love affair has ended with that we will be moving back to the equivalent of the desktop computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We moved away from mainframes and dumb terminals to desktop computers and now we are moving back again... (cloud computing and the like) after the love affair has ended with that we will be moving back to the equivalent of the desktop computer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164296</id>
	<title>How is this different than a Game Console?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258627800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>contrasting (for example) the Xbox Live network with DLC to the Chrome OS;</p><p>How is the Chrome OS different than a game console?</p><p>Apart from the inherent $50 console game purchase (did someone say App Store during the Chrome Show);  Would a Nintendo DS + 3G be the same thing??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>contrasting ( for example ) the Xbox Live network with DLC to the Chrome OS ; How is the Chrome OS different than a game console ? Apart from the inherent $ 50 console game purchase ( did someone say App Store during the Chrome Show ) ; Would a Nintendo DS + 3G be the same thing ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>contrasting (for example) the Xbox Live network with DLC to the Chrome OS;How is the Chrome OS different than a game console?Apart from the inherent $50 console game purchase (did someone say App Store during the Chrome Show);  Would a Nintendo DS + 3G be the same thing?
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163318</id>
	<title>open source?? which license!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258624980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bitches! Fuck yous @ all shitty slashdot editors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bitches !
Fuck yous @ all shitty slashdot editors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bitches!
Fuck yous @ all shitty slashdot editors.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162558</id>
	<title>Well....</title>
	<author>thadog</author>
	<datestamp>1258622640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can I still run IE in a Chrome frame?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can I still run IE in a Chrome frame ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can I still run IE in a Chrome frame?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164362</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>jim\_v2000</author>
	<datestamp>1258627980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't have to reconcile them because I dislike both.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't have to reconcile them because I dislike both .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't have to reconcile them because I dislike both.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162280</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167702</id>
	<title>Re:My Guess on Cost</title>
	<author>popeyethesailor</author>
	<datestamp>1258647660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My guess - it'd be 50 dollars. With a service plan. 100 dollars per year. 200GB cloud storage, 10GB/month bandwidth, and pay more as you go.</p><p>Sweet enough? Of course you can hack and get onto local storage. But will you want to? Have you backed up your gmail mails lately?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My guess - it 'd be 50 dollars .
With a service plan .
100 dollars per year .
200GB cloud storage , 10GB/month bandwidth , and pay more as you go.Sweet enough ?
Of course you can hack and get onto local storage .
But will you want to ?
Have you backed up your gmail mails lately ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My guess - it'd be 50 dollars.
With a service plan.
100 dollars per year.
200GB cloud storage, 10GB/month bandwidth, and pay more as you go.Sweet enough?
Of course you can hack and get onto local storage.
But will you want to?
Have you backed up your gmail mails lately?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162588</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167556</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>saleenS281</author>
	<datestamp>1258645920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So instead you're expecting him to put everything "in the cloud" using an OS that doesn't even allow him to burn his email to a cd.  Given that google gives absolutely no guarantees you'll have your email tomorrow, that sounds like a terrible idea.  In fact, do any of the TOS's of the "cloud providers" give guarantees of service?  At least with that horrible "windows desktop" he can easily back his stuff up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So instead you 're expecting him to put everything " in the cloud " using an OS that does n't even allow him to burn his email to a cd .
Given that google gives absolutely no guarantees you 'll have your email tomorrow , that sounds like a terrible idea .
In fact , do any of the TOS 's of the " cloud providers " give guarantees of service ?
At least with that horrible " windows desktop " he can easily back his stuff up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So instead you're expecting him to put everything "in the cloud" using an OS that doesn't even allow him to burn his email to a cd.
Given that google gives absolutely no guarantees you'll have your email tomorrow, that sounds like a terrible idea.
In fact, do any of the TOS's of the "cloud providers" give guarantees of service?
At least with that horrible "windows desktop" he can easily back his stuff up.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162502</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164612</id>
	<title>No One Read The Fucking Article</title>
	<author>bhima</author>
	<datestamp>1258628820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I find it pretty pathetic that comments which misscharacterize things mentioned in the article or in the various links are so highly moderated.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I find it pretty pathetic that comments which misscharacterize things mentioned in the article or in the various links are so highly moderated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find it pretty pathetic that comments which misscharacterize things mentioned in the article or in the various links are so highly moderated.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30169298</id>
	<title>Large segement?</title>
	<author>jotaeleemeese</author>
	<datestamp>1258713600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>iPhones are luxury items, most people don't have one, ditto for iPods.</p><p>Play video games? Buy a console.</p><p>As for the rest, I fail to see why you can't upload pictures from your camera (have you heard about this little thing called Picassa?)</p><p>And of course if you have a web browser+flash+java you can work from home (there are several solutions out there that will work for you).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>iPhones are luxury items , most people do n't have one , ditto for iPods.Play video games ?
Buy a console.As for the rest , I fail to see why you ca n't upload pictures from your camera ( have you heard about this little thing called Picassa ?
) And of course if you have a web browser + flash + java you can work from home ( there are several solutions out there that will work for you ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iPhones are luxury items, most people don't have one, ditto for iPods.Play video games?
Buy a console.As for the rest, I fail to see why you can't upload pictures from your camera (have you heard about this little thing called Picassa?
)And of course if you have a web browser+flash+java you can work from home (there are several solutions out there that will work for you).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162906</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164114</id>
	<title>The more things change...</title>
	<author>Dragoness Eclectic</author>
	<datestamp>1258627200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh look, they've re-invented the X Terminal yet again. So thin-clients are up for another go-round, are they? How long before they go out of fashion *this* time?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh look , they 've re-invented the X Terminal yet again .
So thin-clients are up for another go-round , are they ?
How long before they go out of fashion * this * time ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh look, they've re-invented the X Terminal yet again.
So thin-clients are up for another go-round, are they?
How long before they go out of fashion *this* time?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162376</id>
	<title>Sure, and lemme guess</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258621980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... in order for you to use the software when you aren't plugged into the net, you'll have to download some bloated piece of kludge like Gears, which won't actually give you the seamless experience you crave, but will make you wish for the days of Windows 3.1.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... in order for you to use the software when you are n't plugged into the net , you 'll have to download some bloated piece of kludge like Gears , which wo n't actually give you the seamless experience you crave , but will make you wish for the days of Windows 3.1 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... in order for you to use the software when you aren't plugged into the net, you'll have to download some bloated piece of kludge like Gears, which won't actually give you the seamless experience you crave, but will make you wish for the days of Windows 3.1.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162850</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258623660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does the 3rd world really have always-on mobile internet with unlimited data, such that all apps being webapps is a good idea?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does the 3rd world really have always-on mobile internet with unlimited data , such that all apps being webapps is a good idea ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does the 3rd world really have always-on mobile internet with unlimited data, such that all apps being webapps is a good idea?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162462</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30170340</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>mjwalshe</author>
	<datestamp>1258728420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>no country has the infrastructure to suport this and arguably the USA doesnt even have a decent mobile coverage if teh stories of phones just not workng in major cities is anything to go by.</htmltext>
<tokenext>no country has the infrastructure to suport this and arguably the USA doesnt even have a decent mobile coverage if teh stories of phones just not workng in major cities is anything to go by .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no country has the infrastructure to suport this and arguably the USA doesnt even have a decent mobile coverage if teh stories of phones just not workng in major cities is anything to go by.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162896</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162280</id>
	<title>Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258621680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>it will only be available on hardware that meets Google's specifications. Hard disks are banned, for instance, while Google said it will also specify factors such as screen sizes and display resolutions</p></div></blockquote><p>How do we reconcile this with slamming Apple for trying to maintain 100\% control over the OS/hardware combo?</p><p>Norman<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... coordinate.</p><p>Cheers</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>it will only be available on hardware that meets Google 's specifications .
Hard disks are banned , for instance , while Google said it will also specify factors such as screen sizes and display resolutionsHow do we reconcile this with slamming Apple for trying to maintain 100 \ % control over the OS/hardware combo ? Norman ... coordinate.Cheers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it will only be available on hardware that meets Google's specifications.
Hard disks are banned, for instance, while Google said it will also specify factors such as screen sizes and display resolutionsHow do we reconcile this with slamming Apple for trying to maintain 100\% control over the OS/hardware combo?Norman ... coordinate.Cheers
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163302</id>
	<title>Re:Going back to sleep now...</title>
	<author>CannonballHead</author>
	<datestamp>1258624920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just wait until your network goes down.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just wait until your network goes down .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just wait until your network goes down.
;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162948</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30170100</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258726140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The NSA must be proud...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The NSA must be proud.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The NSA must be proud...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163394</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258625160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree completely. I find it both very aggressive and personally offensive that they offer their services for free in the first place, now they are creating an operating system tailored to their services that people can freely choose to use? What gall!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree completely .
I find it both very aggressive and personally offensive that they offer their services for free in the first place , now they are creating an operating system tailored to their services that people can freely choose to use ?
What gall !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree completely.
I find it both very aggressive and personally offensive that they offer their services for free in the first place, now they are creating an operating system tailored to their services that people can freely choose to use?
What gall!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162770</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>IamTheRealMike</author>
	<datestamp>1258623240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It'll be available as open source. You obviously won't be able to fork it and brand it "Google ChromeOS" if you don't meet the requirements of the trademark however.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 'll be available as open source .
You obviously wo n't be able to fork it and brand it " Google ChromeOS " if you do n't meet the requirements of the trademark however .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It'll be available as open source.
You obviously won't be able to fork it and brand it "Google ChromeOS" if you don't meet the requirements of the trademark however.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162280</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30175758</id>
	<title>Re:Going back to sleep now...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258749540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One caveat - a web app is not necessarily a thin client.  It can be (handle all processing on the server), but with client-side javascript, Flash, or Java applets, you can do an arbitrarily large amount of the computing on the client.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One caveat - a web app is not necessarily a thin client .
It can be ( handle all processing on the server ) , but with client-side javascript , Flash , or Java applets , you can do an arbitrarily large amount of the computing on the client .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One caveat - a web app is not necessarily a thin client.
It can be (handle all processing on the server), but with client-side javascript, Flash, or Java applets, you can do an arbitrarily large amount of the computing on the client.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162286</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162382</id>
	<title>No Hard Disk?</title>
	<author>NapalmScatterBrain</author>
	<datestamp>1258622040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm pretty sure there is going to be a rather small permanent storage capability for the offline (but still in browser functionality) that Chrome allows for.  Currently this functionality is provided by Google Gears, but once HTML 5 has matured they will be using that.
All I know is that I can open up and use Gmail in the browser offline, and Chrome OS is supposed to provide this functionality.

I can't wait to see what the open source community does with the Chromium OS.

Either way, MS needs to fix IE.  It is horrible.  Comparing it to Firefox makes it look bad.  Comparing to Chrome makes it look completely irrelevant and obsolete.  Now they're going to be eating it in the Netbooks market too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm pretty sure there is going to be a rather small permanent storage capability for the offline ( but still in browser functionality ) that Chrome allows for .
Currently this functionality is provided by Google Gears , but once HTML 5 has matured they will be using that .
All I know is that I can open up and use Gmail in the browser offline , and Chrome OS is supposed to provide this functionality .
I ca n't wait to see what the open source community does with the Chromium OS .
Either way , MS needs to fix IE .
It is horrible .
Comparing it to Firefox makes it look bad .
Comparing to Chrome makes it look completely irrelevant and obsolete .
Now they 're going to be eating it in the Netbooks market too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm pretty sure there is going to be a rather small permanent storage capability for the offline (but still in browser functionality) that Chrome allows for.
Currently this functionality is provided by Google Gears, but once HTML 5 has matured they will be using that.
All I know is that I can open up and use Gmail in the browser offline, and Chrome OS is supposed to provide this functionality.
I can't wait to see what the open source community does with the Chromium OS.
Either way, MS needs to fix IE.
It is horrible.
Comparing it to Firefox makes it look bad.
Comparing to Chrome makes it look completely irrelevant and obsolete.
Now they're going to be eating it in the Netbooks market too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167746</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>npsimons</author>
	<datestamp>1258648320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>How do we reconcile this with slamming Apple for trying to maintain 100\% control over the OS/hardware combo?</p></div></blockquote><p>By not falling into the fallacy that everyone on slashdot holds to group consensus?  Not all of us are hypocritical fanboys (redundant, I know).  Some of us even turn our noses up at Google's Android because it's not open enough (<a href="http://kurt555gs.blogspot.com/" title="blogspot.com">but the N900 might do</a> [blogspot.com]).  Heck, I still don't have a GMail account because I prefer to have as much control over my data as possible (to the point of running my own mail server).</p><p>Google does some cool things and they *were* pretty good at the whole "don't be evil" thing, but I think that time may have passed.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How do we reconcile this with slamming Apple for trying to maintain 100 \ % control over the OS/hardware combo ? By not falling into the fallacy that everyone on slashdot holds to group consensus ?
Not all of us are hypocritical fanboys ( redundant , I know ) .
Some of us even turn our noses up at Google 's Android because it 's not open enough ( but the N900 might do [ blogspot.com ] ) .
Heck , I still do n't have a GMail account because I prefer to have as much control over my data as possible ( to the point of running my own mail server ) .Google does some cool things and they * were * pretty good at the whole " do n't be evil " thing , but I think that time may have passed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do we reconcile this with slamming Apple for trying to maintain 100\% control over the OS/hardware combo?By not falling into the fallacy that everyone on slashdot holds to group consensus?
Not all of us are hypocritical fanboys (redundant, I know).
Some of us even turn our noses up at Google's Android because it's not open enough (but the N900 might do [blogspot.com]).
Heck, I still don't have a GMail account because I prefer to have as much control over my data as possible (to the point of running my own mail server).Google does some cool things and they *were* pretty good at the whole "don't be evil" thing, but I think that time may have passed.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162280</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30168938</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>TikiTDO</author>
	<datestamp>1258708140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you not read the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. articles about Google Audio (iTunes), Google Android (iPhone), O3D (Games, CAD), Picasa (Photos), Google Enterprise Apps (Work from home), etc?</p><p>I honestly ca not think of many apps that Google does not, or has not offered to provide for free. They even covered the developers pretty well. Those few apps that Google does not provide are very specialized that would have next to no use for the average consumer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you not read the / .
articles about Google Audio ( iTunes ) , Google Android ( iPhone ) , O3D ( Games , CAD ) , Picasa ( Photos ) , Google Enterprise Apps ( Work from home ) , etc ? I honestly ca not think of many apps that Google does not , or has not offered to provide for free .
They even covered the developers pretty well .
Those few apps that Google does not provide are very specialized that would have next to no use for the average consumer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you not read the /.
articles about Google Audio (iTunes), Google Android (iPhone), O3D (Games, CAD), Picasa (Photos), Google Enterprise Apps (Work from home), etc?I honestly ca not think of many apps that Google does not, or has not offered to provide for free.
They even covered the developers pretty well.
Those few apps that Google does not provide are very specialized that would have next to no use for the average consumer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162906</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164646</id>
	<title>What, no "Airplane Mode"?</title>
	<author>narses</author>
	<datestamp>1258628940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Perhaps by 2010 we will all have access to Neutrino networks, which will solve the problem of dead spots.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps by 2010 we will all have access to Neutrino networks , which will solve the problem of dead spots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps by 2010 we will all have access to Neutrino networks, which will solve the problem of dead spots.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162794</id>
	<title>Don't trust developers.</title>
	<author>w0mprat</author>
	<datestamp>1258623360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>FTOB (from the official blog):<p><div class="quote"><p>Unlike traditional operating systems, Chrome OS doesn't trust the applications you run. Each app is contained within a security sandbox making it harder for malware and viruses to infect your computer. Furthermore, Chrome OS barely trusts itself. Every time you restart your computer the operating system verifies the integrity of its code.</p></div><p>
The developers barely trust themselves to write secure code so they decided code will not be writen at all. Not trusting themselves  with this even they have scrambled their passwords and erased their door access cards. Security has been further enhanced by all staffers being locked up in the basement behind a externally locked door. 6 weeks later the only issue is now is the smell.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>FTOB ( from the official blog ) : Unlike traditional operating systems , Chrome OS does n't trust the applications you run .
Each app is contained within a security sandbox making it harder for malware and viruses to infect your computer .
Furthermore , Chrome OS barely trusts itself .
Every time you restart your computer the operating system verifies the integrity of its code .
The developers barely trust themselves to write secure code so they decided code will not be writen at all .
Not trusting themselves with this even they have scrambled their passwords and erased their door access cards .
Security has been further enhanced by all staffers being locked up in the basement behind a externally locked door .
6 weeks later the only issue is now is the smell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FTOB (from the official blog):Unlike traditional operating systems, Chrome OS doesn't trust the applications you run.
Each app is contained within a security sandbox making it harder for malware and viruses to infect your computer.
Furthermore, Chrome OS barely trusts itself.
Every time you restart your computer the operating system verifies the integrity of its code.
The developers barely trust themselves to write secure code so they decided code will not be writen at all.
Not trusting themselves  with this even they have scrambled their passwords and erased their door access cards.
Security has been further enhanced by all staffers being locked up in the basement behind a externally locked door.
6 weeks later the only issue is now is the smell.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167588</id>
	<title>Translation of the FTOB</title>
	<author>Jesus\_666</author>
	<datestamp>1258646280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Unlike traditional operating systems, Chrome OS doesn't trust the applications you run. Each app is contained within a security sandbox making it harder for malware and viruses to infect your computer.</p></div></blockquote><p>Guess what: Chrome OS happens to use Chrome as a browser. Yes, we know it's surprising. We can hardly believe it ourself.</p><blockquote><div><p>Furthermore, Chrome OS barely trusts itself. Every time you restart your computer the operating system verifies the integrity of its code.</p></div></blockquote><p>Trusted Computing <em>rocks</em>!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unlike traditional operating systems , Chrome OS does n't trust the applications you run .
Each app is contained within a security sandbox making it harder for malware and viruses to infect your computer.Guess what : Chrome OS happens to use Chrome as a browser .
Yes , we know it 's surprising .
We can hardly believe it ourself.Furthermore , Chrome OS barely trusts itself .
Every time you restart your computer the operating system verifies the integrity of its code.Trusted Computing rocks !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unlike traditional operating systems, Chrome OS doesn't trust the applications you run.
Each app is contained within a security sandbox making it harder for malware and viruses to infect your computer.Guess what: Chrome OS happens to use Chrome as a browser.
Yes, we know it's surprising.
We can hardly believe it ourself.Furthermore, Chrome OS barely trusts itself.
Every time you restart your computer the operating system verifies the integrity of its code.Trusted Computing rocks!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162794</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167836</id>
	<title>What's old is new again...</title>
	<author>rdean400</author>
	<datestamp>1258649160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The computer they envision is just a glorified dumb terminal.  There's nothing wrong with that, but there it is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The computer they envision is just a glorified dumb terminal .
There 's nothing wrong with that , but there it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The computer they envision is just a glorified dumb terminal.
There's nothing wrong with that, but there it is.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162338</id>
	<title>Everything in the cloud...</title>
	<author>Noughmad</author>
	<datestamp>1258621860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can I play Nethack in the cloud?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can I play Nethack in the cloud ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can I play Nethack in the cloud?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162656</id>
	<title>Re:Open Source?</title>
	<author>tiocsti</author>
	<datestamp>1258622880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suspect when they say consumers won't be able to download the operating system they mean google won't be providing a package for end users, nor will it support installation.</p><p>As for the os itself, I wonder if it'll support native client or not...i suspect so, it might not be half bad at the low end of the netbook market, which seems to be where they are aiming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect when they say consumers wo n't be able to download the operating system they mean google wo n't be providing a package for end users , nor will it support installation.As for the os itself , I wonder if it 'll support native client or not...i suspect so , it might not be half bad at the low end of the netbook market , which seems to be where they are aiming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect when they say consumers won't be able to download the operating system they mean google won't be providing a package for end users, nor will it support installation.As for the os itself, I wonder if it'll support native client or not...i suspect so, it might not be half bad at the low end of the netbook market, which seems to be where they are aiming.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162328</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30166378</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258636440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://opensource.apple.com/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //opensource.apple.com/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://opensource.apple.com/</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162698</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163436</id>
	<title>Re:Who would use this?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258625280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most of the people in my family, for one.  My parents only use computers for email (and they use gmail already anyway) and web surfing, and my kids spend most of their time either playing video games on their xbox or doing IM, facebook, etc.  My and my wife are both nerds so we'll stick with our regular PC's, but for everyone else around here this looks like a winner.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of the people in my family , for one .
My parents only use computers for email ( and they use gmail already anyway ) and web surfing , and my kids spend most of their time either playing video games on their xbox or doing IM , facebook , etc .
My and my wife are both nerds so we 'll stick with our regular PC 's , but for everyone else around here this looks like a winner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of the people in my family, for one.
My parents only use computers for email (and they use gmail already anyway) and web surfing, and my kids spend most of their time either playing video games on their xbox or doing IM, facebook, etc.
My and my wife are both nerds so we'll stick with our regular PC's, but for everyone else around here this looks like a winner.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162480</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30169086</id>
	<title>Re:The future is already.</title>
	<author>mr exploiter</author>
	<datestamp>1258711140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr><i>...and from this future there will be no escape.</i></p> </div><p>I'm not getting worried until hearing about Google Nation...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...and from this future there will be no escape .
I 'm not getting worried until hearing about Google Nation.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...and from this future there will be no escape.
I'm not getting worried until hearing about Google Nation...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162900</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30166138</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Phil06</author>
	<datestamp>1258635240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>PCs became wildly popular in business because people did not have to wait for some stodgy IT department to apply resources to write an equally stodgy centralized solution. Thin  Clients failed because of the stodge factor. The essence of a PC is freedom from centralization. The Cloud is just another Thin Client.</htmltext>
<tokenext>PCs became wildly popular in business because people did not have to wait for some stodgy IT department to apply resources to write an equally stodgy centralized solution .
Thin Clients failed because of the stodge factor .
The essence of a PC is freedom from centralization .
The Cloud is just another Thin Client .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PCs became wildly popular in business because people did not have to wait for some stodgy IT department to apply resources to write an equally stodgy centralized solution.
Thin  Clients failed because of the stodge factor.
The essence of a PC is freedom from centralization.
The Cloud is just another Thin Client.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163422</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258625280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Grandparents I agree with, 3rd World education I disagree with.</p><p>ChromeOS is ONLY useful with a fast, reliable internet connection. 3rd World means those can be hard to come by.</p><p>Heck, those can be hard to come by ANYwhere. Unless you are talking cell connection or wimax, this would be worthless in a car or anywhere else you can't get a wi-fi signal.</p><p>To me the benefit is the grandparents (or anyone else who has limited needs, but good net connection). Specifically anyone who is likely to call me about their virus infected, trojan-laden, "oh no we didn't click anything" system on which they have NO CLUE where they have saved documents. For them, I give ChromeOS a big thumbs-up.</p><p>The huge downside is the "might as well give Google a copy of my brain" problem. Even if you trust Google 100\%, do you trust the government 100\%? How about the government 20 years from now? How about governments of other large countries with whom Google wants to do business?</p><p>I HOPE that my paranoia is just that. I TOTALLY want a Droid phone from Verizon, but does anyone remember the furor over the Bush administration wanting to see which books you've checked out of the library? How about everything you've read, written, played, listened to, or VISITED (thanks to the Droid and/or ChromeOS sending GPS coords back to the servers...). Google is amazing at collating and aggregating ENORMOUS amounts of data and letting you "Google" it to find what you want. That could be true for dissadents in a specific area too.</p><p>Like everyone else I use the net without thinking much about it (well some). This very post will be available via Google search shortly. We will all have to live with the aggregation of information about us, I just hope we don't come to regret it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Grandparents I agree with , 3rd World education I disagree with.ChromeOS is ONLY useful with a fast , reliable internet connection .
3rd World means those can be hard to come by.Heck , those can be hard to come by ANYwhere .
Unless you are talking cell connection or wimax , this would be worthless in a car or anywhere else you ca n't get a wi-fi signal.To me the benefit is the grandparents ( or anyone else who has limited needs , but good net connection ) .
Specifically anyone who is likely to call me about their virus infected , trojan-laden , " oh no we did n't click anything " system on which they have NO CLUE where they have saved documents .
For them , I give ChromeOS a big thumbs-up.The huge downside is the " might as well give Google a copy of my brain " problem .
Even if you trust Google 100 \ % , do you trust the government 100 \ % ?
How about the government 20 years from now ?
How about governments of other large countries with whom Google wants to do business ? I HOPE that my paranoia is just that .
I TOTALLY want a Droid phone from Verizon , but does anyone remember the furor over the Bush administration wanting to see which books you 've checked out of the library ?
How about everything you 've read , written , played , listened to , or VISITED ( thanks to the Droid and/or ChromeOS sending GPS coords back to the servers... ) .
Google is amazing at collating and aggregating ENORMOUS amounts of data and letting you " Google " it to find what you want .
That could be true for dissadents in a specific area too.Like everyone else I use the net without thinking much about it ( well some ) .
This very post will be available via Google search shortly .
We will all have to live with the aggregation of information about us , I just hope we do n't come to regret it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Grandparents I agree with, 3rd World education I disagree with.ChromeOS is ONLY useful with a fast, reliable internet connection.
3rd World means those can be hard to come by.Heck, those can be hard to come by ANYwhere.
Unless you are talking cell connection or wimax, this would be worthless in a car or anywhere else you can't get a wi-fi signal.To me the benefit is the grandparents (or anyone else who has limited needs, but good net connection).
Specifically anyone who is likely to call me about their virus infected, trojan-laden, "oh no we didn't click anything" system on which they have NO CLUE where they have saved documents.
For them, I give ChromeOS a big thumbs-up.The huge downside is the "might as well give Google a copy of my brain" problem.
Even if you trust Google 100\%, do you trust the government 100\%?
How about the government 20 years from now?
How about governments of other large countries with whom Google wants to do business?I HOPE that my paranoia is just that.
I TOTALLY want a Droid phone from Verizon, but does anyone remember the furor over the Bush administration wanting to see which books you've checked out of the library?
How about everything you've read, written, played, listened to, or VISITED (thanks to the Droid and/or ChromeOS sending GPS coords back to the servers...).
Google is amazing at collating and aggregating ENORMOUS amounts of data and letting you "Google" it to find what you want.
That could be true for dissadents in a specific area too.Like everyone else I use the net without thinking much about it (well some).
This very post will be available via Google search shortly.
We will all have to live with the aggregation of information about us, I just hope we don't come to regret it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162462</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165824</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1258633920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Yeah, because what Joe Sixpack needs is Antivirus, endless straem of updates, burning backups of mail and documents and restoring it later, and rest of that shit.</i> </p><p>Joe can read his mail and continue on with his work - or play - even when his Internet connection or Google's servers are down for the count.</p><p>Joe needs an anti-virus solution because he can download programs and data from <b>many</b> independent sources. The Google OS is lock-in on a scale that Apple and Microsoft have never even contemplated.</p><p>It interests me that the geek is comfortable with the Monolith so long as it is his own creation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , because what Joe Sixpack needs is Antivirus , endless straem of updates , burning backups of mail and documents and restoring it later , and rest of that shit .
Joe can read his mail and continue on with his work - or play - even when his Internet connection or Google 's servers are down for the count.Joe needs an anti-virus solution because he can download programs and data from many independent sources .
The Google OS is lock-in on a scale that Apple and Microsoft have never even contemplated.It interests me that the geek is comfortable with the Monolith so long as it is his own creation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, because what Joe Sixpack needs is Antivirus, endless straem of updates, burning backups of mail and documents and restoring it later, and rest of that shit.
Joe can read his mail and continue on with his work - or play - even when his Internet connection or Google's servers are down for the count.Joe needs an anti-virus solution because he can download programs and data from many independent sources.
The Google OS is lock-in on a scale that Apple and Microsoft have never even contemplated.It interests me that the geek is comfortable with the Monolith so long as it is his own creation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162502</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163814</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258626480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What I can't reconcile is how Google can open-source this, yet maintain that level of control.  How do you disallow hard disks when someone can just fork the code and remove that restriction?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What I ca n't reconcile is how Google can open-source this , yet maintain that level of control .
How do you disallow hard disks when someone can just fork the code and remove that restriction ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I can't reconcile is how Google can open-source this, yet maintain that level of control.
How do you disallow hard disks when someone can just fork the code and remove that restriction?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162280</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30169482</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>bazorg</author>
	<datestamp>1258716720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since when does the 3rd world define what is the way forward for IT?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since when does the 3rd world define what is the way forward for IT ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since when does the 3rd world define what is the way forward for IT?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162850</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165734</id>
	<title>Obligatory</title>
	<author>jeffehobbs</author>
	<datestamp>1258633440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No filesystem access. Less space than a hard drive. Lame.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>(For the record, I think this sounds very exciting -- the first truly new OS idea in a decade).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No filesystem access .
Less space than a hard drive .
Lame. : ) ( For the record , I think this sounds very exciting -- the first truly new OS idea in a decade ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No filesystem access.
Less space than a hard drive.
Lame. :)(For the record, I think this sounds very exciting -- the first truly new OS idea in a decade).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165652</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>caluml</author>
	<datestamp>1258633140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But this will be useful in some cases (3rd world education, your grandparents, etc) where all your need are webapps, like Gmail, Google Docs, etc</p></div><p>Yeah, cos if it's one thing they have a lot of in 3rd world countries, it's cheap, reliable broadband.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But this will be useful in some cases ( 3rd world education , your grandparents , etc ) where all your need are webapps , like Gmail , Google Docs , etcYeah , cos if it 's one thing they have a lot of in 3rd world countries , it 's cheap , reliable broadband .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But this will be useful in some cases (3rd world education, your grandparents, etc) where all your need are webapps, like Gmail, Google Docs, etcYeah, cos if it's one thing they have a lot of in 3rd world countries, it's cheap, reliable broadband.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162462</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162890</id>
	<title>Dammit.</title>
	<author>Zixaphir</author>
	<datestamp>1258623780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I do not like this, Sam I Am. I do not like green eggs and ham.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do not like this , Sam I Am .
I do not like green eggs and ham .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do not like this, Sam I Am.
I do not like green eggs and ham.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30169176</id>
	<title>Re:You can live in the cloud...</title>
	<author>jisatsusha</author>
	<datestamp>1258712160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Really? Because I can clearly see links to Hotmail and Yahoo Mail on the screenshots.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Really ?
Because I can clearly see links to Hotmail and Yahoo Mail on the screenshots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really?
Because I can clearly see links to Hotmail and Yahoo Mail on the screenshots.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162642</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163838</id>
	<title>Don't worry, it's not TCPA when Google does it!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258626480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yay, it's TCPA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted\_Computing\_Group all over again. And why exactly would we want it this time around?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yay , it 's TCPA http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted \ _Computing \ _Group all over again .
And why exactly would we want it this time around ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yay, it's TCPA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted\_Computing\_Group all over again.
And why exactly would we want it this time around?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164086</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1258627140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The 3rd world often doesn't have great internet access.<br>As to not everybody needs a full blows OS and the hardware costs associated with it...<br>I have a full blown OS running on a sub $200 phone. I doubt that Chrome OS will run on a less hardware than say Android will.<br>So let's take a look at the options.<br>"Full OS" Linux, OS/X, or even Windows offers you web apps and native apps. Both Linux and OS/X can run on low cost low power ARM cpus.<br>Chrome OS offers you just web apps.</p><p>Humm........<br>Win for full OS.</p><p>Add an app store to Chrome OS and Google might have had a winner on it's hands. This looks like a new iOpener or 3Com Audry.<br>Will it at least support Java?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The 3rd world often does n't have great internet access.As to not everybody needs a full blows OS and the hardware costs associated with it...I have a full blown OS running on a sub $ 200 phone .
I doubt that Chrome OS will run on a less hardware than say Android will.So let 's take a look at the options .
" Full OS " Linux , OS/X , or even Windows offers you web apps and native apps .
Both Linux and OS/X can run on low cost low power ARM cpus.Chrome OS offers you just web apps.Humm........Win for full OS.Add an app store to Chrome OS and Google might have had a winner on it 's hands .
This looks like a new iOpener or 3Com Audry.Will it at least support Java ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The 3rd world often doesn't have great internet access.As to not everybody needs a full blows OS and the hardware costs associated with it...I have a full blown OS running on a sub $200 phone.
I doubt that Chrome OS will run on a less hardware than say Android will.So let's take a look at the options.
"Full OS" Linux, OS/X, or even Windows offers you web apps and native apps.
Both Linux and OS/X can run on low cost low power ARM cpus.Chrome OS offers you just web apps.Humm........Win for full OS.Add an app store to Chrome OS and Google might have had a winner on it's hands.
This looks like a new iOpener or 3Com Audry.Will it at least support Java?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162462</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163366</id>
	<title>No hard disk?</title>
	<author>deadkennedy</author>
	<datestamp>1258625100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Hard disks are banned" seems like it would be a show-stopper for many folks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Hard disks are banned " seems like it would be a show-stopper for many folks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Hard disks are banned" seems like it would be a show-stopper for many folks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30169774</id>
	<title>Re:The future is already.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258720920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is only a person's future if that person decides to use Google software and hardware for all their computing needs.</p><p>I especially love the quote "Gmail wins mail"...what battle has Gmail "won" exactly? Marketshare? Who is forcing me to use Gmail? I use hushmail and I am perfectly happy with that.</p><p>A great advantage of the Internet is that, unlike the real world, there are always alternatives, they are always a short click away, and they do not need the backing of multi billion corporations. Please don't push your narrow vision of "The Google Future" onto the rest of us.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is only a person 's future if that person decides to use Google software and hardware for all their computing needs.I especially love the quote " Gmail wins mail " ...what battle has Gmail " won " exactly ?
Marketshare ? Who is forcing me to use Gmail ?
I use hushmail and I am perfectly happy with that.A great advantage of the Internet is that , unlike the real world , there are always alternatives , they are always a short click away , and they do not need the backing of multi billion corporations .
Please do n't push your narrow vision of " The Google Future " onto the rest of us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is only a person's future if that person decides to use Google software and hardware for all their computing needs.I especially love the quote "Gmail wins mail"...what battle has Gmail "won" exactly?
Marketshare? Who is forcing me to use Gmail?
I use hushmail and I am perfectly happy with that.A great advantage of the Internet is that, unlike the real world, there are always alternatives, they are always a short click away, and they do not need the backing of multi billion corporations.
Please don't push your narrow vision of "The Google Future" onto the rest of us.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162900</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162948</id>
	<title>Re:Going back to sleep now...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258623960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thin clients are fantastic. I run Citrix across 5 sites and it's godsend. They rarely fail and everything being centralized makes my job a lot easier.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thin clients are fantastic .
I run Citrix across 5 sites and it 's godsend .
They rarely fail and everything being centralized makes my job a lot easier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thin clients are fantastic.
I run Citrix across 5 sites and it's godsend.
They rarely fail and everything being centralized makes my job a lot easier.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162286</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164096</id>
	<title>Well now we know why Google loves the Palm Pre</title>
	<author>thule</author>
	<datestamp>1258627140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Palm Pre philosophy is similar to ChromeOS.  Google has stated that they love the Pre and no wonder:
<a href="http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2009/06/palm-pre-launching-with-google-search.html" title="blogspot.com">Palm Pre launching with Google Search, Google Maps, and YouTube</a> [blogspot.com]
<br>
<br>
I wonder if Android's browser will start taking on some ChromeOS functions.  The Pre and Android could become more and more similar over time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Palm Pre philosophy is similar to ChromeOS .
Google has stated that they love the Pre and no wonder : Palm Pre launching with Google Search , Google Maps , and YouTube [ blogspot.com ] I wonder if Android 's browser will start taking on some ChromeOS functions .
The Pre and Android could become more and more similar over time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Palm Pre philosophy is similar to ChromeOS.
Google has stated that they love the Pre and no wonder:
Palm Pre launching with Google Search, Google Maps, and YouTube [blogspot.com]


I wonder if Android's browser will start taking on some ChromeOS functions.
The Pre and Android could become more and more similar over time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30166498</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>Max Littlemore</author>
	<datestamp>1258636980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hardware for a ~40-80GB disk is cheap. Not being able to access you music collection or photos or important documents when your ISP or the server is down is a royal pain in the arse. I'm all for this new fangled "cloud" thingy, but where possible I make sure I have a local copy - even on my android phone.</p><p>Do not want</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hardware for a ~ 40-80GB disk is cheap .
Not being able to access you music collection or photos or important documents when your ISP or the server is down is a royal pain in the arse .
I 'm all for this new fangled " cloud " thingy , but where possible I make sure I have a local copy - even on my android phone.Do not want</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hardware for a ~40-80GB disk is cheap.
Not being able to access you music collection or photos or important documents when your ISP or the server is down is a royal pain in the arse.
I'm all for this new fangled "cloud" thingy, but where possible I make sure I have a local copy - even on my android phone.Do not want</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162462</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162286</id>
	<title>Going back to sleep now...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258621680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The OS differs from the usual computing model by (1) making all apps web apps [...]</p></div><p>Well, I guess we were overdue for another well-funded attempt to flog the dead horse of thin clients again. I'd read the press release to see how many lines I have to scan before the first appearance of the word "convergence", but I feel too overwhelmed by indifference...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The OS differs from the usual computing model by ( 1 ) making all apps web apps [ ... ] Well , I guess we were overdue for another well-funded attempt to flog the dead horse of thin clients again .
I 'd read the press release to see how many lines I have to scan before the first appearance of the word " convergence " , but I feel too overwhelmed by indifference.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The OS differs from the usual computing model by (1) making all apps web apps [...]Well, I guess we were overdue for another well-funded attempt to flog the dead horse of thin clients again.
I'd read the press release to see how many lines I have to scan before the first appearance of the word "convergence", but I feel too overwhelmed by indifference...
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162698</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>chill</author>
	<datestamp>1258623060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Help me out.  Where can I download the source code to OS X and all the software components for a working Mac?  Sure, I can buy Apple's official version of the OS on their official hardware, but where can I install it on my OWN hardware because I have the source?</p><p>Apple is a bunch of tight assed control freaks.  They build good stuff, but you must run it THEIR way on THEIR systems.</p><p>Google builds good stuff, and they sell it on their systems or partners' systems, and you can STILL run in on anything you can make it work on, since they provide the source code.</p><p>So, yes -- Google good, Apple bad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Help me out .
Where can I download the source code to OS X and all the software components for a working Mac ?
Sure , I can buy Apple 's official version of the OS on their official hardware , but where can I install it on my OWN hardware because I have the source ? Apple is a bunch of tight assed control freaks .
They build good stuff , but you must run it THEIR way on THEIR systems.Google builds good stuff , and they sell it on their systems or partners ' systems , and you can STILL run in on anything you can make it work on , since they provide the source code.So , yes -- Google good , Apple bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Help me out.
Where can I download the source code to OS X and all the software components for a working Mac?
Sure, I can buy Apple's official version of the OS on their official hardware, but where can I install it on my OWN hardware because I have the source?Apple is a bunch of tight assed control freaks.
They build good stuff, but you must run it THEIR way on THEIR systems.Google builds good stuff, and they sell it on their systems or partners' systems, and you can STILL run in on anything you can make it work on, since they provide the source code.So, yes -- Google good, Apple bad.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162280</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</id>
	<title>Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258621620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Everything runs in the cloud? Hard disks are banned? Wow, they are aggressively pursuing their thirst for all of the world's data. No thank you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everything runs in the cloud ?
Hard disks are banned ?
Wow , they are aggressively pursuing their thirst for all of the world 's data .
No thank you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everything runs in the cloud?
Hard disks are banned?
Wow, they are aggressively pursuing their thirst for all of the world's data.
No thank you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163664</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258626000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But this will be useful in some cases (3rd world education, your grandparents, etc) where all your need are webapps, like Gmail, Google Docs, etc. Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.</p></div><p>Yes, because loads of children in the third world have high bandwidth Internet connections. Hell, I live in the U.S., and I can't even get a reliable Internet connection.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But this will be useful in some cases ( 3rd world education , your grandparents , etc ) where all your need are webapps , like Gmail , Google Docs , etc .
Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.Yes , because loads of children in the third world have high bandwidth Internet connections .
Hell , I live in the U.S. , and I ca n't even get a reliable Internet connection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But this will be useful in some cases (3rd world education, your grandparents, etc) where all your need are webapps, like Gmail, Google Docs, etc.
Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.Yes, because loads of children in the third world have high bandwidth Internet connections.
Hell, I live in the U.S., and I can't even get a reliable Internet connection.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162462</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164536</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1258628580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a whole difference between <em>how</em> you store your data (punch card, magnetic type or harddisk), or <em>whom</em> you give your data. Maybe you don't care if your data is analyzed to allow for more personalized marketing (you think they wouldn't do that? Think again!). I do care.</p><p>Oh, and do you think you'll be able to run adblock on ChromeOS? Surely not (or if yes, then only a version which doesn't block Google/Doubleclick ads).</p><p>If you have infinite trust in Google, you probably deserve no better. I use Google for searches (Cookie blocked, of course) and for Google maps, and I'm watching videos on YouTube. But that's it. I don't have nor want a gmail account. I don't use Google apps. I block Google Analytics (if you want usage statistics, analyze your own server's log files, those contain all the relevant information; I don't want to leave a web browsing profile at Google).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a whole difference between how you store your data ( punch card , magnetic type or harddisk ) , or whom you give your data .
Maybe you do n't care if your data is analyzed to allow for more personalized marketing ( you think they would n't do that ?
Think again ! ) .
I do care.Oh , and do you think you 'll be able to run adblock on ChromeOS ?
Surely not ( or if yes , then only a version which does n't block Google/Doubleclick ads ) .If you have infinite trust in Google , you probably deserve no better .
I use Google for searches ( Cookie blocked , of course ) and for Google maps , and I 'm watching videos on YouTube .
But that 's it .
I do n't have nor want a gmail account .
I do n't use Google apps .
I block Google Analytics ( if you want usage statistics , analyze your own server 's log files , those contain all the relevant information ; I do n't want to leave a web browsing profile at Google ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a whole difference between how you store your data (punch card, magnetic type or harddisk), or whom you give your data.
Maybe you don't care if your data is analyzed to allow for more personalized marketing (you think they wouldn't do that?
Think again!).
I do care.Oh, and do you think you'll be able to run adblock on ChromeOS?
Surely not (or if yes, then only a version which doesn't block Google/Doubleclick ads).If you have infinite trust in Google, you probably deserve no better.
I use Google for searches (Cookie blocked, of course) and for Google maps, and I'm watching videos on YouTube.
But that's it.
I don't have nor want a gmail account.
I don't use Google apps.
I block Google Analytics (if you want usage statistics, analyze your own server's log files, those contain all the relevant information; I don't want to leave a web browsing profile at Google).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163040</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163742</id>
	<title>MPAA will be happy.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258626240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>How will I ever pirate my movies now?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How will I ever pirate my movies now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How will I ever pirate my movies now?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162546</id>
	<title>All your datas</title>
	<author>dave562</author>
	<datestamp>1258622580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...are belongs to us!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...are belongs to us !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...are belongs to us!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164478</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>Viking Coder</author>
	<datestamp>1258628400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A very large segment of home users need iTunes to sync with their iPod and iPhone</p></div><p>In the video, they show someone uploading photos from their camera.  I suspect it would be able to save files to a USB device - that's how I use my iPod, anyway.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>play video games</p></div><p>A ton of games are already web games.  And for the rest, there's Gaikai and OnLive.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>take photos off their cameras</p></div><p>They showed exactly that in the video.  Do you really think they would forget about Picassa and YouTube?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>work from home</p></div><p>90\% of "work from home" is GMail and Docs.Google.com.  For the other 10\%, hopefully they'll have a decent VNC client built-in as an extension to the browser.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A very large segment of home users need iTunes to sync with their iPod and iPhoneIn the video , they show someone uploading photos from their camera .
I suspect it would be able to save files to a USB device - that 's how I use my iPod , anyway.play video gamesA ton of games are already web games .
And for the rest , there 's Gaikai and OnLive.take photos off their camerasThey showed exactly that in the video .
Do you really think they would forget about Picassa and YouTube ? work from home90 \ % of " work from home " is GMail and Docs.Google.com .
For the other 10 \ % , hopefully they 'll have a decent VNC client built-in as an extension to the browser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A very large segment of home users need iTunes to sync with their iPod and iPhoneIn the video, they show someone uploading photos from their camera.
I suspect it would be able to save files to a USB device - that's how I use my iPod, anyway.play video gamesA ton of games are already web games.
And for the rest, there's Gaikai and OnLive.take photos off their camerasThey showed exactly that in the video.
Do you really think they would forget about Picassa and YouTube?work from home90\% of "work from home" is GMail and Docs.Google.com.
For the other 10\%, hopefully they'll have a decent VNC client built-in as an extension to the browser.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162906</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163618</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>etinin</author>
	<datestamp>1258625880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hardware costs? The only real difference is the hard drive and I don't really believe hard drives are that much expensive. In the third world, it might actually be harder to cope with the increased internet usage demanded by this type of system.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hardware costs ?
The only real difference is the hard drive and I do n't really believe hard drives are that much expensive .
In the third world , it might actually be harder to cope with the increased internet usage demanded by this type of system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hardware costs?
The only real difference is the hard drive and I don't really believe hard drives are that much expensive.
In the third world, it might actually be harder to cope with the increased internet usage demanded by this type of system.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162462</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162638</id>
	<title>Re:restrictions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258622820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're assuming that their open source license will allow forking and 3rd party distribution.  It's perfectly possible that by "open source" google just means that the source code will be  available and that the community is invited to submit patches.</p><p>Even assuming for the moment that Google is OK with you forking their code, who would do that?  The main market for Chrome OS is going to be for netbook manufacturers, none of whom will want to take on the (gargantuan) task of supporting both the hardware \_and\_ the operating system.  Think of it like Android: sure, it's open source, and there are certainly community projects built around it, but every cell phone capable of running Android comes with a stock, Google-approved flavor, not some home-spun concoction.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're assuming that their open source license will allow forking and 3rd party distribution .
It 's perfectly possible that by " open source " google just means that the source code will be available and that the community is invited to submit patches.Even assuming for the moment that Google is OK with you forking their code , who would do that ?
The main market for Chrome OS is going to be for netbook manufacturers , none of whom will want to take on the ( gargantuan ) task of supporting both the hardware \ _and \ _ the operating system .
Think of it like Android : sure , it 's open source , and there are certainly community projects built around it , but every cell phone capable of running Android comes with a stock , Google-approved flavor , not some home-spun concoction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're assuming that their open source license will allow forking and 3rd party distribution.
It's perfectly possible that by "open source" google just means that the source code will be  available and that the community is invited to submit patches.Even assuming for the moment that Google is OK with you forking their code, who would do that?
The main market for Chrome OS is going to be for netbook manufacturers, none of whom will want to take on the (gargantuan) task of supporting both the hardware \_and\_ the operating system.
Think of it like Android: sure, it's open source, and there are certainly community projects built around it, but every cell phone capable of running Android comes with a stock, Google-approved flavor, not some home-spun concoction.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162282</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164450</id>
	<title>yes</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1258628340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>due to poor cable/ POTS infrastructure, places in africa and india and central/ south america experience the internet pretty much only through their cell phones</p><p>of course its not 4G speeds, but its something, and it isn't a market to be ignored simply because the signal is slow and weak and intermittent. in fact, its a huge market with no other options. build their favorite gateway, and you have a captive audience of billions</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>due to poor cable/ POTS infrastructure , places in africa and india and central/ south america experience the internet pretty much only through their cell phonesof course its not 4G speeds , but its something , and it is n't a market to be ignored simply because the signal is slow and weak and intermittent .
in fact , its a huge market with no other options .
build their favorite gateway , and you have a captive audience of billions</tokentext>
<sentencetext>due to poor cable/ POTS infrastructure, places in africa and india and central/ south america experience the internet pretty much only through their cell phonesof course its not 4G speeds, but its something, and it isn't a market to be ignored simply because the signal is slow and weak and intermittent.
in fact, its a huge market with no other options.
build their favorite gateway, and you have a captive audience of billions</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162850</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163154</id>
	<title>Games? Java?</title>
	<author>tomaasz</author>
	<datestamp>1258624560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will it have Java? I'm wondering because it's still the only way to do decent architecture-independent games without 100\% CPU usage 100\% of the time.</p><p>Or does it support the Native client stuff?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will it have Java ?
I 'm wondering because it 's still the only way to do decent architecture-independent games without 100 \ % CPU usage 100 \ % of the time.Or does it support the Native client stuff ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will it have Java?
I'm wondering because it's still the only way to do decent architecture-independent games without 100\% CPU usage 100\% of the time.Or does it support the Native client stuff?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30168268</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>sootman</author>
	<datestamp>1258653840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt; For likely 90\% of home users, this will be perfect.</p><p>&gt; I'd say this is perfect for no more than 50\% of home users.</p><p>And I'd say you're off by about 49.8\%. Do you know anyone who uses a WebTV? Remember the i-Opener, 3Com Audrey, EarthLink Mivo, or any of the other failed Internet appliances of the past dozen years? Remember the hue and cry when the iPhone wasn't going to offer developers a native SDK? (And how well they've done with the App Store since?) I'm sorry, I just don't see this being any kind of success. There's just always <em>something</em> you need to do locally.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; For likely 90 \ % of home users , this will be perfect. &gt; I 'd say this is perfect for no more than 50 \ % of home users.And I 'd say you 're off by about 49.8 \ % .
Do you know anyone who uses a WebTV ?
Remember the i-Opener , 3Com Audrey , EarthLink Mivo , or any of the other failed Internet appliances of the past dozen years ?
Remember the hue and cry when the iPhone was n't going to offer developers a native SDK ?
( And how well they 've done with the App Store since ?
) I 'm sorry , I just do n't see this being any kind of success .
There 's just always something you need to do locally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt; For likely 90\% of home users, this will be perfect.&gt; I'd say this is perfect for no more than 50\% of home users.And I'd say you're off by about 49.8\%.
Do you know anyone who uses a WebTV?
Remember the i-Opener, 3Com Audrey, EarthLink Mivo, or any of the other failed Internet appliances of the past dozen years?
Remember the hue and cry when the iPhone wasn't going to offer developers a native SDK?
(And how well they've done with the App Store since?
) I'm sorry, I just don't see this being any kind of success.
There's just always something you need to do locally.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162906</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162372</id>
	<title>Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>loftwyr</author>
	<datestamp>1258621980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the infamous network appliance made real.  The OS is a simplified kernel with a specific set of supported hardware with a simple interface and no on-system storage for data.  All apps and settings are "in the cloud" i.e., on google's servers.</p><p>For likely 90\% of home users, this will be perfect.  A relatively dumb device that only runs a web browser to use web apps (googles or anyone else's provided their signed by google) to do their work.</p><p>It takes user-friendly to an extreme and makes everything just part of the web browser experience.</p><p>The root OS partition is read only and the selection of hardware is prescribed by google.  You can download the source to hack it, but you can't make an installable image as you can't cryptographically sign it for their okay.  They're only planning this to be a bought with hardware purchase.</p><p>Sound familiar?  It should, it's basically the Apple experience made into a net appliance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the infamous network appliance made real .
The OS is a simplified kernel with a specific set of supported hardware with a simple interface and no on-system storage for data .
All apps and settings are " in the cloud " i.e. , on google 's servers.For likely 90 \ % of home users , this will be perfect .
A relatively dumb device that only runs a web browser to use web apps ( googles or anyone else 's provided their signed by google ) to do their work.It takes user-friendly to an extreme and makes everything just part of the web browser experience.The root OS partition is read only and the selection of hardware is prescribed by google .
You can download the source to hack it , but you ca n't make an installable image as you ca n't cryptographically sign it for their okay .
They 're only planning this to be a bought with hardware purchase.Sound familiar ?
It should , it 's basically the Apple experience made into a net appliance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the infamous network appliance made real.
The OS is a simplified kernel with a specific set of supported hardware with a simple interface and no on-system storage for data.
All apps and settings are "in the cloud" i.e., on google's servers.For likely 90\% of home users, this will be perfect.
A relatively dumb device that only runs a web browser to use web apps (googles or anyone else's provided their signed by google) to do their work.It takes user-friendly to an extreme and makes everything just part of the web browser experience.The root OS partition is read only and the selection of hardware is prescribed by google.
You can download the source to hack it, but you can't make an installable image as you can't cryptographically sign it for their okay.
They're only planning this to be a bought with hardware purchase.Sound familiar?
It should, it's basically the Apple experience made into a net appliance.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30177470</id>
	<title>Wonder which morons will do it?</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1258712280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know, there is something called Linux and entire tree of BSD which is free to do anything with. I can find 10-15 elite guys and start my own BSD Distro and if it is better than FreeBSD (imaginary speaking), it can have potential to grow bigger and perhaps make a multi billion enterprise giant (Red Hat).</p><p>Why don't contribute time and resources to them and play with a giant information monopoly toy instead? Return? More 13 year old clueless kids personal info?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , there is something called Linux and entire tree of BSD which is free to do anything with .
I can find 10-15 elite guys and start my own BSD Distro and if it is better than FreeBSD ( imaginary speaking ) , it can have potential to grow bigger and perhaps make a multi billion enterprise giant ( Red Hat ) .Why do n't contribute time and resources to them and play with a giant information monopoly toy instead ?
Return ? More 13 year old clueless kids personal info ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, there is something called Linux and entire tree of BSD which is free to do anything with.
I can find 10-15 elite guys and start my own BSD Distro and if it is better than FreeBSD (imaginary speaking), it can have potential to grow bigger and perhaps make a multi billion enterprise giant (Red Hat).Why don't contribute time and resources to them and play with a giant information monopoly toy instead?
Return? More 13 year old clueless kids personal info?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30203632</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259000520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is no provision for requiring signatures for web apps. Any web application that Chrome supports will work. It is curerntly unclear how the apss in panbels work. They might be hardcoded in, or perhaps there will be a special Google Gears extention that works only on Chrome OS to support them.</p><p>But he shows the Tech Preview of Microsoft Web Apps working just fine in the video, and that most certainly was not signed by Google.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is no provision for requiring signatures for web apps .
Any web application that Chrome supports will work .
It is curerntly unclear how the apss in panbels work .
They might be hardcoded in , or perhaps there will be a special Google Gears extention that works only on Chrome OS to support them.But he shows the Tech Preview of Microsoft Web Apps working just fine in the video , and that most certainly was not signed by Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is no provision for requiring signatures for web apps.
Any web application that Chrome supports will work.
It is curerntly unclear how the apss in panbels work.
They might be hardcoded in, or perhaps there will be a special Google Gears extention that works only on Chrome OS to support them.But he shows the Tech Preview of Microsoft Web Apps working just fine in the video, and that most certainly was not signed by Google.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165500</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258632360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which part of "Google said consumers won't be able to download the operating system" is confusing to you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which part of " Google said consumers wo n't be able to download the operating system " is confusing to you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which part of "Google said consumers won't be able to download the operating system" is confusing to you?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162886</id>
	<title>Re:restrictions</title>
	<author>John Whitley</author>
	<datestamp>1258623720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's pretty obvious that the open source project enables (<em>encourages, even</em>) folks to do whatever they please.  The distinction will be similar to the official Chrome browser vs. the Chromium open source project (and forks/descendents).  However, the summary misses the context of Google's direction here, primarily that all of the data on a ChromeOS system is intended to be in the cloud:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>"If I lose my Chrome OS machine, I should be able to buy a new one, log in, and within a few seconds get all my applications back," Pichai claimed.</p></div><p>It's interesting is to compare this strategy with Apple's recent history.  Google will be targeting only specific hardware with ChromeOS, selling an integrated hardware/software appliance instead of just a CD with some bits on it.  The OSS project takes up the slack by enabling hackers/homebrewers to do whatever they want, as well as letting other hardware makers to customize and ship ChromeOS to their own platform.  Google benefits from all of these angles, since their interest is getting users into their part of the cloud.  Since Apple outright sells the hardware/software integration, splitting off the software clearly hasn't presented obvious business value to them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's pretty obvious that the open source project enables ( encourages , even ) folks to do whatever they please .
The distinction will be similar to the official Chrome browser vs. the Chromium open source project ( and forks/descendents ) .
However , the summary misses the context of Google 's direction here , primarily that all of the data on a ChromeOS system is intended to be in the cloud : " If I lose my Chrome OS machine , I should be able to buy a new one , log in , and within a few seconds get all my applications back , " Pichai claimed.It 's interesting is to compare this strategy with Apple 's recent history .
Google will be targeting only specific hardware with ChromeOS , selling an integrated hardware/software appliance instead of just a CD with some bits on it .
The OSS project takes up the slack by enabling hackers/homebrewers to do whatever they want , as well as letting other hardware makers to customize and ship ChromeOS to their own platform .
Google benefits from all of these angles , since their interest is getting users into their part of the cloud .
Since Apple outright sells the hardware/software integration , splitting off the software clearly has n't presented obvious business value to them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's pretty obvious that the open source project enables (encourages, even) folks to do whatever they please.
The distinction will be similar to the official Chrome browser vs. the Chromium open source project (and forks/descendents).
However, the summary misses the context of Google's direction here, primarily that all of the data on a ChromeOS system is intended to be in the cloud:"If I lose my Chrome OS machine, I should be able to buy a new one, log in, and within a few seconds get all my applications back," Pichai claimed.It's interesting is to compare this strategy with Apple's recent history.
Google will be targeting only specific hardware with ChromeOS, selling an integrated hardware/software appliance instead of just a CD with some bits on it.
The OSS project takes up the slack by enabling hackers/homebrewers to do whatever they want, as well as letting other hardware makers to customize and ship ChromeOS to their own platform.
Google benefits from all of these angles, since their interest is getting users into their part of the cloud.
Since Apple outright sells the hardware/software integration, splitting off the software clearly hasn't presented obvious business value to them.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165580</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1258632840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.</i> </p><p>Not everyone wants the costs associated with broadband service and services.</p><p>In each generation of hardware the geek re-invents the net appliance.</p><p>Walmart doesn't know what to make of the damn thing. There is a brief burst of sales before disappointment sets in.</p><p>The appliance is quickly overtaken by a brand name mass-market general purpose Windows PC with better specs and a cheaper price.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it .
Not everyone wants the costs associated with broadband service and services.In each generation of hardware the geek re-invents the net appliance.Walmart does n't know what to make of the damn thing .
There is a brief burst of sales before disappointment sets in.The appliance is quickly overtaken by a brand name mass-market general purpose Windows PC with better specs and a cheaper price .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.
Not everyone wants the costs associated with broadband service and services.In each generation of hardware the geek re-invents the net appliance.Walmart doesn't know what to make of the damn thing.
There is a brief burst of sales before disappointment sets in.The appliance is quickly overtaken by a brand name mass-market general purpose Windows PC with better specs and a cheaper price.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162462</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>TooMuchToDo</author>
	<datestamp>1258622340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>But this will be useful in some cases (3rd world education, your grandparents, etc) where all your need are webapps, like Gmail, Google Docs, etc. Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But this will be useful in some cases ( 3rd world education , your grandparents , etc ) where all your need are webapps , like Gmail , Google Docs , etc .
Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But this will be useful in some cases (3rd world education, your grandparents, etc) where all your need are webapps, like Gmail, Google Docs, etc.
Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162952</id>
	<title>Oh, so its not a desktop OS.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258624020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its Android for Netbooks. Meh. Sticking with Ubuntu, thanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its Android for Netbooks .
Meh. Sticking with Ubuntu , thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its Android for Netbooks.
Meh. Sticking with Ubuntu, thanks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163002</id>
	<title>Re:Going back to sleep now...</title>
	<author>randomlogin</author>
	<datestamp>1258624140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just think how much money they could have saved by making a quick call to Larry Elisson or Scott McNealy.  On the other hand, I can imagine the responses:

</p><p>Larry E. : Yes, I know we weren't successful with the network computer last time around, but it was all down to the network infrastructure.  Now that everyone in the world has 100\% guaranteed broadband access all the time, I'm sure it will fly...

</p><p>Scott M. : Yes I know we weren't successful with the JavaStation last time around, but it was probably as a result of limiting it to running just the Java application stack.  I'm sure that if you use something more enterprise ready like (cough, splutter, cough) a combination of Javascript and AJAX hacks you'll do much better...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just think how much money they could have saved by making a quick call to Larry Elisson or Scott McNealy .
On the other hand , I can imagine the responses : Larry E. : Yes , I know we were n't successful with the network computer last time around , but it was all down to the network infrastructure .
Now that everyone in the world has 100 \ % guaranteed broadband access all the time , I 'm sure it will fly.. . Scott M. : Yes I know we were n't successful with the JavaStation last time around , but it was probably as a result of limiting it to running just the Java application stack .
I 'm sure that if you use something more enterprise ready like ( cough , splutter , cough ) a combination of Javascript and AJAX hacks you 'll do much better.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just think how much money they could have saved by making a quick call to Larry Elisson or Scott McNealy.
On the other hand, I can imagine the responses:

Larry E. : Yes, I know we weren't successful with the network computer last time around, but it was all down to the network infrastructure.
Now that everyone in the world has 100\% guaranteed broadband access all the time, I'm sure it will fly...

Scott M. : Yes I know we weren't successful with the JavaStation last time around, but it was probably as a result of limiting it to running just the Java application stack.
I'm sure that if you use something more enterprise ready like (cough, splutter, cough) a combination of Javascript and AJAX hacks you'll do much better...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164110</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258627200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This ignores the reality of where Google (or at least this schizophrenic mind-fragment of Google) is trying to take the Web.</p><p>My faith in Google's ability to tame HTML/CSS/JavaScript into a truly effective persistent application medium?  Super-low.  The safe money is on smartphone apps.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This ignores the reality of where Google ( or at least this schizophrenic mind-fragment of Google ) is trying to take the Web.My faith in Google 's ability to tame HTML/CSS/JavaScript into a truly effective persistent application medium ?
Super-low. The safe money is on smartphone apps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This ignores the reality of where Google (or at least this schizophrenic mind-fragment of Google) is trying to take the Web.My faith in Google's ability to tame HTML/CSS/JavaScript into a truly effective persistent application medium?
Super-low.  The safe money is on smartphone apps.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30173478</id>
	<title>Pyro Desktop?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258741920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So this is just Pyro Desktop using webkit instead of gecko?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So this is just Pyro Desktop using webkit instead of gecko ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So this is just Pyro Desktop using webkit instead of gecko?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167364</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>jo42</author>
	<datestamp>1258643580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It interests me that the geek is comfortable with the Monolith so long as it is his own creation</p></div><p>It is a mental disease that I call "Google On The Brain". The main symptom is that no matter what Google does, It Is Good. Blind unthinking faith in one of the greatest evil corporate entities.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It interests me that the geek is comfortable with the Monolith so long as it is his own creationIt is a mental disease that I call " Google On The Brain " .
The main symptom is that no matter what Google does , It Is Good .
Blind unthinking faith in one of the greatest evil corporate entities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It interests me that the geek is comfortable with the Monolith so long as it is his own creationIt is a mental disease that I call "Google On The Brain".
The main symptom is that no matter what Google does, It Is Good.
Blind unthinking faith in one of the greatest evil corporate entities.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163968</id>
	<title>This is how the HDD will finally die</title>
	<author>MikeURL</author>
	<datestamp>1258626900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>With this OS it will probably be very easy to get by on a 32 gig SSD.  That will be plenty as long as the cloud is doing a lot of the computing, storing, etc.
<br> <br>
You can still pry my local full-featured box from my cold dead fingers but i imagine the kids will go for the type of netbook Google is proposing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>With this OS it will probably be very easy to get by on a 32 gig SSD .
That will be plenty as long as the cloud is doing a lot of the computing , storing , etc .
You can still pry my local full-featured box from my cold dead fingers but i imagine the kids will go for the type of netbook Google is proposing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With this OS it will probably be very easy to get by on a 32 gig SSD.
That will be plenty as long as the cloud is doing a lot of the computing, storing, etc.
You can still pry my local full-featured box from my cold dead fingers but i imagine the kids will go for the type of netbook Google is proposing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162896</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>TubeSteak</author>
	<datestamp>1258623780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But this will be useful in some cases (3rd world education, your grandparents, etc) where all your need are webapps, like Gmail, Google Docs, etc. Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.</p></div><p>Which 3rd world country has the internet infrastructure to support web apps?<br>Most of the time they're lucky to have text books, much less computers.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But this will be useful in some cases ( 3rd world education , your grandparents , etc ) where all your need are webapps , like Gmail , Google Docs , etc .
Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.Which 3rd world country has the internet infrastructure to support web apps ? Most of the time they 're lucky to have text books , much less computers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But this will be useful in some cases (3rd world education, your grandparents, etc) where all your need are webapps, like Gmail, Google Docs, etc.
Not everyone needs a full blown OS and the hardware costs associated with it.Which 3rd world country has the internet infrastructure to support web apps?Most of the time they're lucky to have text books, much less computers.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163862</id>
	<title>Printers!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258626600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If we're not allowed to install anything locally how are printers going to work? How will that work when HP is telling me I have to download 600megs for a freaking injet printer driver. I need grandma to be able to print her xmas emails on a printer she picked up from Walmart and pictures to print correctly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If we 're not allowed to install anything locally how are printers going to work ?
How will that work when HP is telling me I have to download 600megs for a freaking injet printer driver .
I need grandma to be able to print her xmas emails on a printer she picked up from Walmart and pictures to print correctly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we're not allowed to install anything locally how are printers going to work?
How will that work when HP is telling me I have to download 600megs for a freaking injet printer driver.
I need grandma to be able to print her xmas emails on a printer she picked up from Walmart and pictures to print correctly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164508</id>
	<title>This could work.</title>
	<author>patrickthbold</author>
	<datestamp>1258628460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just need someone to write a vim/latex web app, and somehow access all my music movies and picture.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just need someone to write a vim/latex web app , and somehow access all my music movies and picture .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just need someone to write a vim/latex web app, and somehow access all my music movies and picture.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164632</id>
	<title>"No iTunes. Less space than a Litl. Lame."</title>
	<author>leoc</author>
	<datestamp>1258628880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe the knee jerk slashdot technopessimists will be right this time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe the knee jerk slashdot technopessimists will be right this time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe the knee jerk slashdot technopessimists will be right this time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30166660</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>Max Littlemore</author>
	<datestamp>1258638060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Does the 3rd world really have always-on mobile internet with unlimited data, such that all apps being webapps is a good idea?</p></div></blockquote><p>For the most part yes. And where mobile internet is not available, they can alsways just pop in to a Starbucks.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does the 3rd world really have always-on mobile internet with unlimited data , such that all apps being webapps is a good idea ? For the most part yes .
And where mobile internet is not available , they can alsways just pop in to a Starbucks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does the 3rd world really have always-on mobile internet with unlimited data, such that all apps being webapps is a good idea?For the most part yes.
And where mobile internet is not available, they can alsways just pop in to a Starbucks.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162850</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30168778</id>
	<title>Whatever happened to "Dont be evil?"</title>
	<author>leereyno</author>
	<datestamp>1258660260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought that Apple was bad about wanting total control, but they've got nothing on Google.</p><p>My response to this crap is the same as my response to the failed monopolists in Cupertino:  I simply don't buy their shit under any circumstances.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought that Apple was bad about wanting total control , but they 've got nothing on Google.My response to this crap is the same as my response to the failed monopolists in Cupertino : I simply do n't buy their shit under any circumstances .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought that Apple was bad about wanting total control, but they've got nothing on Google.My response to this crap is the same as my response to the failed monopolists in Cupertino:  I simply don't buy their shit under any circumstances.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163622</id>
	<title>Re:Having watch the video press conference...</title>
	<author>aaaaaaargh!</author>
	<datestamp>1258625880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It takes user-friendly to an extreme and makes everything just part of the web browser experience.</p></div><p>The problem is that the web browser experience is the least user-friendly experience you can have on a computer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It takes user-friendly to an extreme and makes everything just part of the web browser experience.The problem is that the web browser experience is the least user-friendly experience you can have on a computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It takes user-friendly to an extreme and makes everything just part of the web browser experience.The problem is that the web browser experience is the least user-friendly experience you can have on a computer.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162372</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30168840</id>
	<title>Re:DOA</title>
	<author>prockcore</author>
	<datestamp>1258749480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>and I can't use it for anything work related because it all goes to the cloud.</p></div></blockquote><p>I'm sure most businesses provide their own cloud.  Companies live off the cloud already.  Exchange, for example.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>and I ca n't use it for anything work related because it all goes to the cloud.I 'm sure most businesses provide their own cloud .
Companies live off the cloud already .
Exchange , for example .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and I can't use it for anything work related because it all goes to the cloud.I'm sure most businesses provide their own cloud.
Companies live off the cloud already.
Exchange, for example.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162318</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30164158</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>bonch</author>
	<datestamp>1258627320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Joe Sixpack doesn't need a stripped-down, Google-branded Linux distro to visit Gmail.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Joe Sixpack does n't need a stripped-down , Google-branded Linux distro to visit Gmail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Joe Sixpack doesn't need a stripped-down, Google-branded Linux distro to visit Gmail.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162502</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162588</id>
	<title>My Guess on Cost</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258622700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the OS can't be downloaded, it's attached to the hardware 1-to-1.</p><p>The hardware can't cost a penny more than a netbook ($250-300) or we'd just get a netbook.</p><p>Removing the harddrive, or putting a small 4gb SD drive, will put it around $200.</p><p>$200: Meh.</p><p>$150: I'd rush the doors like a Walmart on Black Friday.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the OS ca n't be downloaded , it 's attached to the hardware 1-to-1.The hardware ca n't cost a penny more than a netbook ( $ 250-300 ) or we 'd just get a netbook.Removing the harddrive , or putting a small 4gb SD drive , will put it around $ 200. $ 200 : Meh. $ 150 : I 'd rush the doors like a Walmart on Black Friday .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the OS can't be downloaded, it's attached to the hardware 1-to-1.The hardware can't cost a penny more than a netbook ($250-300) or we'd just get a netbook.Removing the harddrive, or putting a small 4gb SD drive, will put it around $200.$200: Meh.$150: I'd rush the doors like a Walmart on Black Friday.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167742</id>
	<title>Google ISP next?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258648260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google ISP next?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google ISP next ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google ISP next?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30168308</id>
	<title>2 OSes Is Stupid</title>
	<author>Doc Ruby</author>
	<datestamp>1258654320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google's already got an OS, Android. It's already shipping, it's FOSS, it's got a huge developer base with tools since it's really Linux programmed in Java with a different compiler generating different bytecode for a different JM (Dalvik). It runs on mobile phones and netbooks, and probably PCs, too - and will soon probably run on anything Linux runs on.</p><p>What possible strategy could come from also releasing a ChromeOS that is different from Android? Does Google expect lots of people to develop for both Android and ChromeOS? Google surely realizes there are only so many developers, even if ChromeOS is easy and more new developers spring up for it.</p><p>Launching one new OS is gutsy, and succeeds about once every couple of decades. Launching two within a couple years is foolhardy, and undercuts each of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google 's already got an OS , Android .
It 's already shipping , it 's FOSS , it 's got a huge developer base with tools since it 's really Linux programmed in Java with a different compiler generating different bytecode for a different JM ( Dalvik ) .
It runs on mobile phones and netbooks , and probably PCs , too - and will soon probably run on anything Linux runs on.What possible strategy could come from also releasing a ChromeOS that is different from Android ?
Does Google expect lots of people to develop for both Android and ChromeOS ?
Google surely realizes there are only so many developers , even if ChromeOS is easy and more new developers spring up for it.Launching one new OS is gutsy , and succeeds about once every couple of decades .
Launching two within a couple years is foolhardy , and undercuts each of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google's already got an OS, Android.
It's already shipping, it's FOSS, it's got a huge developer base with tools since it's really Linux programmed in Java with a different compiler generating different bytecode for a different JM (Dalvik).
It runs on mobile phones and netbooks, and probably PCs, too - and will soon probably run on anything Linux runs on.What possible strategy could come from also releasing a ChromeOS that is different from Android?
Does Google expect lots of people to develop for both Android and ChromeOS?
Google surely realizes there are only so many developers, even if ChromeOS is easy and more new developers spring up for it.Launching one new OS is gutsy, and succeeds about once every couple of decades.
Launching two within a couple years is foolhardy, and undercuts each of them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162642</id>
	<title>You can live in the cloud...</title>
	<author>HerculesMO</author>
	<datestamp>1258622820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But only Google's cloud.</p><p>Say what you will about Windows, but I can install Chrome, Gears, and bam -- I can use Google's 'cloud' infrastructure.</p><p>ChromeOS? I can only use Google.</p><p>I'll stick with Windows for now.</p><p>On a related note, this is one of the most underwhelming releases I've ever seen. Way to blow the hype.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But only Google 's cloud.Say what you will about Windows , but I can install Chrome , Gears , and bam -- I can use Google 's 'cloud ' infrastructure.ChromeOS ?
I can only use Google.I 'll stick with Windows for now.On a related note , this is one of the most underwhelming releases I 've ever seen .
Way to blow the hype .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But only Google's cloud.Say what you will about Windows, but I can install Chrome, Gears, and bam -- I can use Google's 'cloud' infrastructure.ChromeOS?
I can only use Google.I'll stick with Windows for now.On a related note, this is one of the most underwhelming releases I've ever seen.
Way to blow the hype.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30165238</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>jrcamp</author>
	<datestamp>1258631400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did you ever stop to think that maybe, just <i>maybe</i>, that you're not their target audience?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you ever stop to think that maybe , just maybe , that you 're not their target audience ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, that you're not their target audience?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163010</id>
	<title>Enforcement?</title>
	<author>mea37</author>
	<datestamp>1258624140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And once they've released the source, they will enforce these no hard drive / approved hardware only rules... how?</p><p>Is this some MS-esque definition of "releasing the source"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And once they 've released the source , they will enforce these no hard drive / approved hardware only rules... how ? Is this some MS-esque definition of " releasing the source " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And once they've released the source, they will enforce these no hard drive / approved hardware only rules... how?Is this some MS-esque definition of "releasing the source"?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30166762</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258638660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Does the 3rd world really have always-on mobile internet with unlimited data, such that all apps being webapps is a good idea?</p></div><p>Does Slashdot have users who've never heard of <a href="http://gears.google.com/" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">Gears?</a> [google.com]</p><p>Well, yes, it does.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does the 3rd world really have always-on mobile internet with unlimited data , such that all apps being webapps is a good idea ? Does Slashdot have users who 've never heard of Gears ?
[ google.com ] Well , yes , it does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does the 3rd world really have always-on mobile internet with unlimited data, such that all apps being webapps is a good idea?Does Slashdot have users who've never heard of Gears?
[google.com]Well, yes, it does.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162850</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30166074</id>
	<title>Congratulations</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258635000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A hardware vendor can already put a tiny installation of Linux + X11 + Firefox or Chrome on small flash drive.</p></div><p>Congratulations, you just told us what Chrome is.  You didn't think they would write the whole thing from scratch, did you?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A hardware vendor can already put a tiny installation of Linux + X11 + Firefox or Chrome on small flash drive.Congratulations , you just told us what Chrome is .
You did n't think they would write the whole thing from scratch , did you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A hardware vendor can already put a tiny installation of Linux + X11 + Firefox or Chrome on small flash drive.Congratulations, you just told us what Chrome is.
You didn't think they would write the whole thing from scratch, did you?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162724</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163582</id>
	<title>Re:Google good, Apple bad ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258625760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google is not selling the hardware.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google is not selling the hardware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google is not selling the hardware.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162280</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30166350</id>
	<title>Re:My Guess on Cost</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1258636320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I imagine they would be more like cellphones with giant screens and keyboards.... <br> <br>The motherboard, ram, cpu/gpu<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... all that will be integrated. <br> <br>So think... <br>cellphone<br>
 + biggerscreen<br>
 + case<br>
 + biggerkeyboard<br>
 - touch(probably)<br>
 - portability(big savings)<br>
 - carrierBS(a lot)<br>
 - phone capabilities</htmltext>
<tokenext>I imagine they would be more like cellphones with giant screens and keyboards.... The motherboard , ram , cpu/gpu .... all that will be integrated .
So think... cellphone + biggerscreen + case + biggerkeyboard - touch ( probably ) - portability ( big savings ) - carrierBS ( a lot ) - phone capabilities</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I imagine they would be more like cellphones with giant screens and keyboards....  The motherboard, ram, cpu/gpu .... all that will be integrated.
So think... cellphone
 + biggerscreen
 + case
 + biggerkeyboard
 - touch(probably)
 - portability(big savings)
 - carrierBS(a lot)
 - phone capabilities</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162588</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163500</id>
	<title>Re:Everything in the cloud...</title>
	<author>yossarianuk</author>
	<datestamp>1258625460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, and thats about it</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , and thats about it</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, and thats about it</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163524</id>
	<title>Re:Looks pretty shit</title>
	<author>aaaaaaargh!</author>
	<datestamp>1258625580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No. My grandparents and children in the third world deserve something better. Google is getting more and more stupid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
My grandparents and children in the third world deserve something better .
Google is getting more and more stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
My grandparents and children in the third world deserve something better.
Google is getting more and more stupid.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162462</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30163510</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258625520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>then don't use it dumbass</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>then do n't use it dumbass</tokentext>
<sentencetext>then don't use it dumbass</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30166568</id>
	<title>Have you tried JavaScript?</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1258637400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For some reason, it reminds me of the classic "Have you tried JavaScript?" WTF.</p><p>I mean, the concept of a terminal is a good one (and not new), but why do we have to rewrite a bunch of reasonably optimized UI remoting protocols that we have  -such as, well, X - in HTML/CSS/JavaScript? It doesn't really solve anything, but it creates a bunch of new problems that are then hurriedly solved (such as writing state-of-the-art JavaScript JIT compilers with whole-body type inference so that JS scripts run fast). Why?</p><p>I guess that, if all you have is HTML and JavaScript, everything starts to look like a web page.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For some reason , it reminds me of the classic " Have you tried JavaScript ?
" WTF.I mean , the concept of a terminal is a good one ( and not new ) , but why do we have to rewrite a bunch of reasonably optimized UI remoting protocols that we have -such as , well , X - in HTML/CSS/JavaScript ?
It does n't really solve anything , but it creates a bunch of new problems that are then hurriedly solved ( such as writing state-of-the-art JavaScript JIT compilers with whole-body type inference so that JS scripts run fast ) .
Why ? I guess that , if all you have is HTML and JavaScript , everything starts to look like a web page .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For some reason, it reminds me of the classic "Have you tried JavaScript?
" WTF.I mean, the concept of a terminal is a good one (and not new), but why do we have to rewrite a bunch of reasonably optimized UI remoting protocols that we have  -such as, well, X - in HTML/CSS/JavaScript?
It doesn't really solve anything, but it creates a bunch of new problems that are then hurriedly solved (such as writing state-of-the-art JavaScript JIT compilers with whole-body type inference so that JS scripts run fast).
Why?I guess that, if all you have is HTML and JavaScript, everything starts to look like a web page.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30167000</id>
	<title>Re:Um, Thanks But No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258640280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep, welcome to the terminal 2.0<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , welcome to the terminal 2.0 : D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, welcome to the terminal 2.0 :D</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_19_1941222.30162272</parent>
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