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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_18_1423238</id>
	<title>IBM Takes a (Feline) Step Toward Thinking Machines</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1258554720000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>bth writes <i>"A computer with the power of a human brain is not yet near. But this week researchers from IBM Corp. are reporting that they've <a href="http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20091118/ap\_on\_hi\_te/us\_tec\_ibm\_brain\_mapping">simulated a cat's cerebral cortex</a>, the thinking part of the brain, using a massive supercomputer. The computer has 147,456 processors (most modern PCs have just one or two processors) and 144 terabytes of main memory &mdash; 100,000 times as much as your computer has."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>bth writes " A computer with the power of a human brain is not yet near .
But this week researchers from IBM Corp. are reporting that they 've simulated a cat 's cerebral cortex , the thinking part of the brain , using a massive supercomputer .
The computer has 147,456 processors ( most modern PCs have just one or two processors ) and 144 terabytes of main memory    100,000 times as much as your computer has .
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<sentencetext>bth writes "A computer with the power of a human brain is not yet near.
But this week researchers from IBM Corp. are reporting that they've simulated a cat's cerebral cortex, the thinking part of the brain, using a massive supercomputer.
The computer has 147,456 processors (most modern PCs have just one or two processors) and 144 terabytes of main memory — 100,000 times as much as your computer has.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30214540</id>
	<title>Re:Why cats?</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1259081580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because a hamster can be simulated with a very small script....</p><p>func=rand(6)</p><p>case (func)<br>{<br>1) panic and run around crazy<br>2) sit there and look cute<br>3) poop yourself<br>4) eat or act hungry<br>5) poop yourself<br>6) run on the wheel<br>}</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because a hamster can be simulated with a very small script....func = rand ( 6 ) case ( func ) { 1 ) panic and run around crazy2 ) sit there and look cute3 ) poop yourself4 ) eat or act hungry5 ) poop yourself6 ) run on the wheel }</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because a hamster can be simulated with a very small script....func=rand(6)case (func){1) panic and run around crazy2) sit there and look cute3) poop yourself4) eat or act hungry5) poop yourself6) run on the wheel}</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30150510</id>
	<title>Re:Why cats?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257078240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If <a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/05/23/199251/Towards-Artificial-Consciousness" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Slashdot</a> [slashdot.org] it to be trusted, there will soon be a sizeable number of cat brains living in our computers. Does anybody know why cats and not dogs or hamsters?</p></div><p>Ask Schrodinger, if he's available.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If Slashdot [ slashdot.org ] it to be trusted , there will soon be a sizeable number of cat brains living in our computers .
Does anybody know why cats and not dogs or hamsters ? Ask Schrodinger , if he 's available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Slashdot [slashdot.org] it to be trusted, there will soon be a sizeable number of cat brains living in our computers.
Does anybody know why cats and not dogs or hamsters?Ask Schrodinger, if he's available.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143742</id>
	<title>Arnold</title>
	<author>travdaddy</author>
	<datestamp>1257091860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, SkyNet is a kitteh... it all makes sense now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , SkyNet is a kitteh... it all makes sense now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, SkyNet is a kitteh... it all makes sense now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144812</id>
	<title>Re:How hard is it to simulate a cat's brain on 1 c</title>
	<author>YourExperiment</author>
	<datestamp>1257095820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You've got a dead cat on your hands there after just one iteration, unless you constantly feed it. Oh, hold on, maybe that's right after all...</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 've got a dead cat on your hands there after just one iteration , unless you constantly feed it .
Oh , hold on , maybe that 's right after all.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You've got a dead cat on your hands there after just one iteration, unless you constantly feed it.
Oh, hold on, maybe that's right after all...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144634</id>
	<title>I already have it on my computer!</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1257095100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just looked into my<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/bin directory, and there it was: An executable clearly named "cat"!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just looked into my /bin directory , and there it was : An executable clearly named " cat " !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just looked into my /bin directory, and there it was: An executable clearly named "cat"!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144488</id>
	<title>Re:Simulating a Brain</title>
	<author>Chris Burke</author>
	<datestamp>1257094620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>There is also a solution that most people never think of: come up with a new algorithm that is faster then the current one</i></p><p>Oh yeah, nobody <i>ever</i> thinks of coming up with a more efficient algorithm.  It's not like Day 1 of Code Optimization 101 is "you get more out of coming up with a better algorithm than you do by tweaking your existing one."  It's not like there's a <b>whole sub-field</b> of CS devoted to coming up with better algorithms for things.</p><p>Or maybe... just maybe...  they <i>have</i> thought of the "come up with a new algorithm" solution, but that this is as hard to <i>do</i> as it is trivial to <i>say</i>.</p><p>People are working on it, but it's not easy, and sometimes no better algorithm exists.  And even if it did, there would still be a use for that much hardware -- you could simulate bigger things.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is also a solution that most people never think of : come up with a new algorithm that is faster then the current oneOh yeah , nobody ever thinks of coming up with a more efficient algorithm .
It 's not like Day 1 of Code Optimization 101 is " you get more out of coming up with a better algorithm than you do by tweaking your existing one .
" It 's not like there 's a whole sub-field of CS devoted to coming up with better algorithms for things.Or maybe... just maybe... they have thought of the " come up with a new algorithm " solution , but that this is as hard to do as it is trivial to say.People are working on it , but it 's not easy , and sometimes no better algorithm exists .
And even if it did , there would still be a use for that much hardware -- you could simulate bigger things .
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is also a solution that most people never think of: come up with a new algorithm that is faster then the current oneOh yeah, nobody ever thinks of coming up with a more efficient algorithm.
It's not like Day 1 of Code Optimization 101 is "you get more out of coming up with a better algorithm than you do by tweaking your existing one.
"  It's not like there's a whole sub-field of CS devoted to coming up with better algorithms for things.Or maybe... just maybe...  they have thought of the "come up with a new algorithm" solution, but that this is as hard to do as it is trivial to say.People are working on it, but it's not easy, and sometimes no better algorithm exists.
And even if it did, there would still be a use for that much hardware -- you could simulate bigger things.
:P</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143996</id>
	<title>Don't use a mouse</title>
	<author>Hoi Polloi</author>
	<datestamp>1257092760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It just sits there licking itself.  Plus, you can't use a mouse with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It just sits there licking itself .
Plus , you ca n't use a mouse with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It just sits there licking itself.
Plus, you can't use a mouse with it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144316</id>
	<title>Simulation output</title>
	<author>nodrogluap</author>
	<datestamp>1257093960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My captors continue to torment me with bizarre dangling objects. They eat lavish meals in my presence while I am forced to subsist on dry cereal. The only thing that keeps me going is the hope of eventual escape... that, and the satisfaction I get from occasionally ruining some piece of furniture. I fear I may be going insane.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My captors continue to torment me with bizarre dangling objects .
They eat lavish meals in my presence while I am forced to subsist on dry cereal .
The only thing that keeps me going is the hope of eventual escape... that , and the satisfaction I get from occasionally ruining some piece of furniture .
I fear I may be going insane .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My captors continue to torment me with bizarre dangling objects.
They eat lavish meals in my presence while I am forced to subsist on dry cereal.
The only thing that keeps me going is the hope of eventual escape... that, and the satisfaction I get from occasionally ruining some piece of furniture.
I fear I may be going insane.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143448</id>
	<title>Re:Why cats?</title>
	<author>BlueBlasphemy</author>
	<datestamp>1257090600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cats are easier to emulate. I have two cats &amp; two computers &amp; not a single one of them pay any attention when I call them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cats are easier to emulate .
I have two cats &amp; two computers &amp; not a single one of them pay any attention when I call them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cats are easier to emulate.
I have two cats &amp; two computers &amp; not a single one of them pay any attention when I call them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145268</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>AmiMoJo</author>
	<datestamp>1257097740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Keep in mind that it took evolution billions of years to create the modern domestic cat, and their position as rulers of house complete with willing servants is pretty much just luck.</p><p>Considering how far human beings have come in the relatively short time we have been around, I don't think we are doing too badly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Keep in mind that it took evolution billions of years to create the modern domestic cat , and their position as rulers of house complete with willing servants is pretty much just luck.Considering how far human beings have come in the relatively short time we have been around , I do n't think we are doing too badly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Keep in mind that it took evolution billions of years to create the modern domestic cat, and their position as rulers of house complete with willing servants is pretty much just luck.Considering how far human beings have come in the relatively short time we have been around, I don't think we are doing too badly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30147272</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>hrimhari</author>
	<datestamp>1257106260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Every flying <b>vertebrate</b> known to science turned forelimbs into wings and flap them. Is it the most efficient way to fly?<br>(...)<br>We see evolution taking away limbs but never adding new ones.</p></div><p>Is ignoring insects a necessary part of your argument?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>It's an interesting way of looking at things. Man's earliest ideas of flying all involved trying to mimic the actions of a bird. And ornithopters remain impractical as passenger vehicles.</p></div><p>I'm not so sure that evolution is particularly "worried" about coming out with an efficient flying animal that exists for the sole purpose of carrying other animals, with no living needs of its own. That, in my opinion, was the fundamental error in the beginning of human flight: we can't just fly like a bird unless we replace our needs with that of a bird.</p><p>In my opinion, the reason why birds are like they are is that their way of flying is adapted to their life needs. In the other hand, airplanes are like they are because their purpose is somewhat to take us somewhere by air. So I find it a little precipitate to judge the results of natural evolution as less efficient in what they do than our current products. I have less of a problem to accept our products as better suited to a certain need of ours than a corresponding thing already existing in nature. Of course, only if we don't consider the merit of this particular need being well identified or not.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Every flying vertebrate known to science turned forelimbs into wings and flap them .
Is it the most efficient way to fly ? ( .. .
) We see evolution taking away limbs but never adding new ones.Is ignoring insects a necessary part of your argument ? It 's an interesting way of looking at things .
Man 's earliest ideas of flying all involved trying to mimic the actions of a bird .
And ornithopters remain impractical as passenger vehicles.I 'm not so sure that evolution is particularly " worried " about coming out with an efficient flying animal that exists for the sole purpose of carrying other animals , with no living needs of its own .
That , in my opinion , was the fundamental error in the beginning of human flight : we ca n't just fly like a bird unless we replace our needs with that of a bird.In my opinion , the reason why birds are like they are is that their way of flying is adapted to their life needs .
In the other hand , airplanes are like they are because their purpose is somewhat to take us somewhere by air .
So I find it a little precipitate to judge the results of natural evolution as less efficient in what they do than our current products .
I have less of a problem to accept our products as better suited to a certain need of ours than a corresponding thing already existing in nature .
Of course , only if we do n't consider the merit of this particular need being well identified or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every flying vertebrate known to science turned forelimbs into wings and flap them.
Is it the most efficient way to fly?(...
)We see evolution taking away limbs but never adding new ones.Is ignoring insects a necessary part of your argument?It's an interesting way of looking at things.
Man's earliest ideas of flying all involved trying to mimic the actions of a bird.
And ornithopters remain impractical as passenger vehicles.I'm not so sure that evolution is particularly "worried" about coming out with an efficient flying animal that exists for the sole purpose of carrying other animals, with no living needs of its own.
That, in my opinion, was the fundamental error in the beginning of human flight: we can't just fly like a bird unless we replace our needs with that of a bird.In my opinion, the reason why birds are like they are is that their way of flying is adapted to their life needs.
In the other hand, airplanes are like they are because their purpose is somewhat to take us somewhere by air.
So I find it a little precipitate to judge the results of natural evolution as less efficient in what they do than our current products.
I have less of a problem to accept our products as better suited to a certain need of ours than a corresponding thing already existing in nature.
Of course, only if we don't consider the merit of this particular need being well identified or not.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30152654</id>
	<title>Re:news for nerds</title>
	<author>davester666</author>
	<datestamp>1257093000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The computer has 147,456 processors (most modern PCs have just one or two processors) and 144 terabytes of main memory -- 100,000 times as much as your computer has."</p><p>Maybe 100,000 times as much as a common-folk person's computer, but it's only may twice as powerful as mine, and with only half the memory!  Haha!  Up yours, IBM!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The computer has 147,456 processors ( most modern PCs have just one or two processors ) and 144 terabytes of main memory -- 100,000 times as much as your computer has .
" Maybe 100,000 times as much as a common-folk person 's computer , but it 's only may twice as powerful as mine , and with only half the memory !
Haha ! Up yours , IBM !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The computer has 147,456 processors (most modern PCs have just one or two processors) and 144 terabytes of main memory -- 100,000 times as much as your computer has.
"Maybe 100,000 times as much as a common-folk person's computer, but it's only may twice as powerful as mine, and with only half the memory!
Haha!  Up yours, IBM!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145072</id>
	<title>Hmmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257096840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First meow!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First meow !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First meow!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30153622</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257105360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It seems pretty clear to me that he means making computers think like organisms would be an inefficient and pointless gesture, as they are capable of something far less primitive.</p></div><p>I don't think it's got anything to do with efficiency or pimitiveness. Submarines don't swim. But planes do fly. The reasons for that may be interesting from a linguistic viewpoint but not really from a scientific or engineering perspective. It possibly tells us something about language but not really anything about submarines or planes. Similarly with the question of whether a computer "thinks".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems pretty clear to me that he means making computers think like organisms would be an inefficient and pointless gesture , as they are capable of something far less primitive.I do n't think it 's got anything to do with efficiency or pimitiveness .
Submarines do n't swim .
But planes do fly .
The reasons for that may be interesting from a linguistic viewpoint but not really from a scientific or engineering perspective .
It possibly tells us something about language but not really anything about submarines or planes .
Similarly with the question of whether a computer " thinks " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems pretty clear to me that he means making computers think like organisms would be an inefficient and pointless gesture, as they are capable of something far less primitive.I don't think it's got anything to do with efficiency or pimitiveness.
Submarines don't swim.
But planes do fly.
The reasons for that may be interesting from a linguistic viewpoint but not really from a scientific or engineering perspective.
It possibly tells us something about language but not really anything about submarines or planes.
Similarly with the question of whether a computer "thinks".
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145060</id>
	<title>Re:Why cats?</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1257096840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They started with mouse, rat in earlier years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They started with mouse , rat in earlier years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They started with mouse, rat in earlier years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144266</id>
	<title>That's Impressive, But</title>
	<author>boudie2</author>
	<datestamp>1257093780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can it catch a mouse? I didn't think so.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can it catch a mouse ?
I did n't think so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can it catch a mouse?
I didn't think so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144608</id>
	<title>Re:You must suck at maths.</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1257094980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What does hard drives have to do with "SYSTEM MEMORY"?</p><p>Storage capacity is not equal to RAM. Good luck on waiting for your 144TB swap file to load.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What does hard drives have to do with " SYSTEM MEMORY " ? Storage capacity is not equal to RAM .
Good luck on waiting for your 144TB swap file to load .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What does hard drives have to do with "SYSTEM MEMORY"?Storage capacity is not equal to RAM.
Good luck on waiting for your 144TB swap file to load.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145472</id>
	<title>Re:Cool...</title>
	<author>gstoddart</author>
	<datestamp>1257098460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I'd wager they're still laughing at the Ally McBeal dancing baby animation.</p></div></blockquote><p>Just FYI, that animation predated Ally McBeal by around a year.  My boss used to use it as his screen saver before that show started.</p><p>I always found it to be a particularly disturbing animation myself.</p><p>Cheers</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd wager they 're still laughing at the Ally McBeal dancing baby animation.Just FYI , that animation predated Ally McBeal by around a year .
My boss used to use it as his screen saver before that show started.I always found it to be a particularly disturbing animation myself.Cheers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd wager they're still laughing at the Ally McBeal dancing baby animation.Just FYI, that animation predated Ally McBeal by around a year.
My boss used to use it as his screen saver before that show started.I always found it to be a particularly disturbing animation myself.Cheers
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146252</id>
	<title>Extra fingers are not rare.</title>
	<author>harl</author>
	<datestamp>1257101760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/mole00/mole00246.htm" title="anl.gov">http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/mole00/mole00246.htm</a> [anl.gov]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/mole00/mole00246.htm [ anl.gov ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/mole00/mole00246.htm [anl.gov]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143692</id>
	<title>Re:Cool...</title>
	<author>bobdotorg</author>
	<datestamp>1257091560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can has petaflop?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can has petaflop ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can has petaflop?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143144</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30147158</id>
	<title>It's not the simulation</title>
	<author>Animats</author>
	<datestamp>1257105660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Actually, the simulation isn't the big deal.  <a href="http://modha.org/" title="modha.org">This is:</a> [modha.org] "We have developed a new algorithm, BlueMatter, that exploits the Blue Gene supercomputing architecture to noninvasively measure and map the connections between all cortical and sub-cortical locations within the human brain using magnetic resonance diffusion weighted imaging."  So they're also developing techniques to extract the wiring diagram of living brains.  That's significant.
</p><p>
Don't read too much into the amount of supercomputer hardware required.  They're running what's basically a circuit simulator, and those are inefficient but flexible.  When NVidia develops a new graphics chip, they test and debug by compiling the VHDL into C, and running it, slowly, on about thirty racks of 1U servers.  When that's working, the VHDL is compiled down to IC masks and the consumer part that's a few centimeters across is fabricated.  That kind of shrink ratio should be expected once the R&amp;D effort figures out what to fab.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , the simulation is n't the big deal .
This is : [ modha.org ] " We have developed a new algorithm , BlueMatter , that exploits the Blue Gene supercomputing architecture to noninvasively measure and map the connections between all cortical and sub-cortical locations within the human brain using magnetic resonance diffusion weighted imaging .
" So they 're also developing techniques to extract the wiring diagram of living brains .
That 's significant .
Do n't read too much into the amount of supercomputer hardware required .
They 're running what 's basically a circuit simulator , and those are inefficient but flexible .
When NVidia develops a new graphics chip , they test and debug by compiling the VHDL into C , and running it , slowly , on about thirty racks of 1U servers .
When that 's working , the VHDL is compiled down to IC masks and the consumer part that 's a few centimeters across is fabricated .
That kind of shrink ratio should be expected once the R&amp;D effort figures out what to fab .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Actually, the simulation isn't the big deal.
This is: [modha.org] "We have developed a new algorithm, BlueMatter, that exploits the Blue Gene supercomputing architecture to noninvasively measure and map the connections between all cortical and sub-cortical locations within the human brain using magnetic resonance diffusion weighted imaging.
"  So they're also developing techniques to extract the wiring diagram of living brains.
That's significant.
Don't read too much into the amount of supercomputer hardware required.
They're running what's basically a circuit simulator, and those are inefficient but flexible.
When NVidia develops a new graphics chip, they test and debug by compiling the VHDL into C, and running it, slowly, on about thirty racks of 1U servers.
When that's working, the VHDL is compiled down to IC masks and the consumer part that's a few centimeters across is fabricated.
That kind of shrink ratio should be expected once the R&amp;D effort figures out what to fab.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143298</id>
	<title>Simulating a Brain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257090180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As seen in this article, you can achieve the simulation by throwing more hardware at it. There is also a solution that most people never think of: come up with a new algorithm that is faster then the current one and can simulate a brain with more efficiency then the one used. At that point, the hardware becomes less impressive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As seen in this article , you can achieve the simulation by throwing more hardware at it .
There is also a solution that most people never think of : come up with a new algorithm that is faster then the current one and can simulate a brain with more efficiency then the one used .
At that point , the hardware becomes less impressive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As seen in this article, you can achieve the simulation by throwing more hardware at it.
There is also a solution that most people never think of: come up with a new algorithm that is faster then the current one and can simulate a brain with more efficiency then the one used.
At that point, the hardware becomes less impressive.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30153894</id>
	<title>Error 678</title>
	<author>fotoguzzi</author>
	<datestamp>1258622340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>678:  Out of milk</htmltext>
<tokenext>678 : Out of milk</tokentext>
<sentencetext>678:  Out of milk</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146702</id>
	<title>Re:Cat-Brain Tech</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1257103620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Unfortunately the system seems limited to short range applications, as missiles seem to loose interest after a couple minutes.</i></p><p>Then it's a poor simulation of a cat brain; they don't set their interest free after a short time. Cats will patiently wait for their prey for hours, and will play with their prey for long periods of time before eating it or presenting it to their kittens or owners.</p><p>You must be mistaking them for dogs. Or slashdot trolls (their brains would be a lot easier to simulate).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately the system seems limited to short range applications , as missiles seem to loose interest after a couple minutes.Then it 's a poor simulation of a cat brain ; they do n't set their interest free after a short time .
Cats will patiently wait for their prey for hours , and will play with their prey for long periods of time before eating it or presenting it to their kittens or owners.You must be mistaking them for dogs .
Or slashdot trolls ( their brains would be a lot easier to simulate ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately the system seems limited to short range applications, as missiles seem to loose interest after a couple minutes.Then it's a poor simulation of a cat brain; they don't set their interest free after a short time.
Cats will patiently wait for their prey for hours, and will play with their prey for long periods of time before eating it or presenting it to their kittens or owners.You must be mistaking them for dogs.
Or slashdot trolls (their brains would be a lot easier to simulate).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143578</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145126</id>
	<title>Re:Cat-Brain Tech</title>
	<author>nschubach</author>
	<datestamp>1257097080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wish my parent's border collie would lose interest after a few minutes... he'll bark and chase a laser pointer for <b>hours</b> and when you are done, he sits next to the piano and stares at you, then the pointer, for the next few hours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish my parent 's border collie would lose interest after a few minutes... he 'll bark and chase a laser pointer for hours and when you are done , he sits next to the piano and stares at you , then the pointer , for the next few hours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish my parent's border collie would lose interest after a few minutes... he'll bark and chase a laser pointer for hours and when you are done, he sits next to the piano and stares at you, then the pointer, for the next few hours.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143578</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143384</id>
	<title>Cat's cerebral cortex?</title>
	<author>Ubiquitous Bubba</author>
	<datestamp>1257090420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cat?  Really?  Now we have a supercomputer than can stalk us and then trip us at the top of the stairs.  Where's my robot dog?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cat ?
Really ? Now we have a supercomputer than can stalk us and then trip us at the top of the stairs .
Where 's my robot dog ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cat?
Really?  Now we have a supercomputer than can stalk us and then trip us at the top of the stairs.
Where's my robot dog?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143632</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257091320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uh yeah, because evolution started with creatures that had 4 limbs and 5 toes/fingers on each, right? These didn't evolve over time, right?</p><p>I'm sorry, but you are wrong for obvious reasons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh yeah , because evolution started with creatures that had 4 limbs and 5 toes/fingers on each , right ?
These did n't evolve over time , right ? I 'm sorry , but you are wrong for obvious reasons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh yeah, because evolution started with creatures that had 4 limbs and 5 toes/fingers on each, right?
These didn't evolve over time, right?I'm sorry, but you are wrong for obvious reasons.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143322</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30148632</id>
	<title>Re:A pile of neurons does not a brain make...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257069780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"and they still don't understand how the equations actually work. "</p><p>I don't think you know what you are talking about.  I don't know anything about flys, neural networks, or yaw detection, but I am quite certain I could explain how a system of 5 nonlinear PDEs work after a short amount of study. So in conclusion, WTF are you really trying to say?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" and they still do n't understand how the equations actually work .
" I do n't think you know what you are talking about .
I do n't know anything about flys , neural networks , or yaw detection , but I am quite certain I could explain how a system of 5 nonlinear PDEs work after a short amount of study .
So in conclusion , WTF are you really trying to say ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"and they still don't understand how the equations actually work.
"I don't think you know what you are talking about.
I don't know anything about flys, neural networks, or yaw detection, but I am quite certain I could explain how a system of 5 nonlinear PDEs work after a short amount of study.
So in conclusion, WTF are you really trying to say?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143568</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146184</id>
	<title>Re:cat-SIZED brain, not a cat brain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257101520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>" [...] there is nothing cat-like about this system apart from its raw processing power. ]</p><p>you mean, except for it being wired like cat visual cortex. from TFP, page 1:</p><blockquote><div><p>We simulated a biologically-inspired model with 1.617 &#215; 109 neurons and 0.887 &#215; 1013 synapses, roughly 643 times slower than real-time per Hertz of average neuronal firing rate. The model used biologically-measured gray matter thalamocortical connectivity from cat visual cortex [7] (Figure 1), dynamic synaptic channels, and a simulation time step of 0.1 ms (Section 4).</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" [ ... ] there is nothing cat-like about this system apart from its raw processing power .
] you mean , except for it being wired like cat visual cortex .
from TFP , page 1 : We simulated a biologically-inspired model with 1.617   109 neurons and 0.887   1013 synapses , roughly 643 times slower than real-time per Hertz of average neuronal firing rate .
The model used biologically-measured gray matter thalamocortical connectivity from cat visual cortex [ 7 ] ( Figure 1 ) , dynamic synaptic channels , and a simulation time step of 0.1 ms ( Section 4 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>" [...] there is nothing cat-like about this system apart from its raw processing power.
]you mean, except for it being wired like cat visual cortex.
from TFP, page 1:We simulated a biologically-inspired model with 1.617 × 109 neurons and 0.887 × 1013 synapses, roughly 643 times slower than real-time per Hertz of average neuronal firing rate.
The model used biologically-measured gray matter thalamocortical connectivity from cat visual cortex [7] (Figure 1), dynamic synaptic channels, and a simulation time step of 0.1 ms (Section 4).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143658</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143462</id>
	<title>A "feline" step ... ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257090660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A "feline" step, huh?</p><p>Would that be Leopard, Tiger, or Panther?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A " feline " step , huh ? Would that be Leopard , Tiger , or Panther ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A "feline" step, huh?Would that be Leopard, Tiger, or Panther?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143886</id>
	<title>if you shut it off is it animal abuse?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257092400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>??
?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143144</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143554</id>
	<title>Re:news for nerds</title>
	<author>Apatharch</author>
	<datestamp>1257091080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you define "modern" as being built in the last two years or so, then surely most modern computers have either two or four.</p><p>And of course that's further assuming that "processors" correspond to CPU cores; include GPUs and the number varies even more widely.</p><p>Or you could ask a typical non-technical user who will tell you that the processor is the big box that the monitor plugs into, so of course they have only one.</p><p>Point is, "processor" is so vague a term that if you're really going to nitpick the number in a typical machine could be almost anything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you define " modern " as being built in the last two years or so , then surely most modern computers have either two or four.And of course that 's further assuming that " processors " correspond to CPU cores ; include GPUs and the number varies even more widely.Or you could ask a typical non-technical user who will tell you that the processor is the big box that the monitor plugs into , so of course they have only one.Point is , " processor " is so vague a term that if you 're really going to nitpick the number in a typical machine could be almost anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you define "modern" as being built in the last two years or so, then surely most modern computers have either two or four.And of course that's further assuming that "processors" correspond to CPU cores; include GPUs and the number varies even more widely.Or you could ask a typical non-technical user who will tell you that the processor is the big box that the monitor plugs into, so of course they have only one.Point is, "processor" is so vague a term that if you're really going to nitpick the number in a typical machine could be almost anything.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143256</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146100</id>
	<title>Re:Cool...</title>
	<author>Have Brain Will Rent</author>
	<datestamp>1257101100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It probably won't even want to go dog-back riding - our cat doesn't. Actually given the weight of all those processors the dog is probably going to be happy about that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It probably wo n't even want to go dog-back riding - our cat does n't .
Actually given the weight of all those processors the dog is probably going to be happy about that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It probably won't even want to go dog-back riding - our cat doesn't.
Actually given the weight of all those processors the dog is probably going to be happy about that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143144</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30147992</id>
	<title>Schrodinger's PC.</title>
	<author>weeboo0104</author>
	<datestamp>1257066600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately, it's completely unservicable.<br>I heard that if you open the case to check the hardware, there is always a dead CPU.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , it 's completely unservicable.I heard that if you open the case to check the hardware , there is always a dead CPU .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, it's completely unservicable.I heard that if you open the case to check the hardware, there is always a dead CPU.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30147268</id>
	<title>Simulates a brain?</title>
	<author>SteveWoz</author>
	<datestamp>1257106200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It should run Eliza to make people think it's really a brain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It should run Eliza to make people think it 's really a brain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It should run Eliza to make people think it's really a brain.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144750</id>
	<title>Has some biological properties</title>
	<author>mmacdona86</author>
	<datestamp>1257095580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Reading the TFA, it looks like they went to some trouble to model some specific brain structures and synapse properties, including inter-area connectivity and learning, in the model.  So it's not "Just a big neural net."  However the accuracy of the simulation is limited--both by what we know about the detailed structure of the cat's brain and by the number and complexity of the structures they decided to model.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Reading the TFA , it looks like they went to some trouble to model some specific brain structures and synapse properties , including inter-area connectivity and learning , in the model .
So it 's not " Just a big neural net .
" However the accuracy of the simulation is limited--both by what we know about the detailed structure of the cat 's brain and by the number and complexity of the structures they decided to model .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reading the TFA, it looks like they went to some trouble to model some specific brain structures and synapse properties, including inter-area connectivity and learning, in the model.
So it's not "Just a big neural net.
"  However the accuracy of the simulation is limited--both by what we know about the detailed structure of the cat's brain and by the number and complexity of the structures they decided to model.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143726</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144110</id>
	<title>Re:news for nerds</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257093180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The summary is actually a paragraph quoted from TFA. But you aren't expected to know that.  This is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. after all...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The summary is actually a paragraph quoted from TFA .
But you are n't expected to know that .
This is / .
after all.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The summary is actually a paragraph quoted from TFA.
But you aren't expected to know that.
This is /.
after all...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143136</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143578</id>
	<title>Cat-Brain Tech</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257091200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The military is rumored to be interested in using the cat simulator to guide precision munitions with laser pointers.  Unfortunately the system seems limited to short range applications, as missiles seem to loose interest after a couple minutes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The military is rumored to be interested in using the cat simulator to guide precision munitions with laser pointers .
Unfortunately the system seems limited to short range applications , as missiles seem to loose interest after a couple minutes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The military is rumored to be interested in using the cat simulator to guide precision munitions with laser pointers.
Unfortunately the system seems limited to short range applications, as missiles seem to loose interest after a couple minutes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146194</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257101520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmmm.  And how did those limbs get there to be taken away by evolution?  Wasn't that by an earlier stage of evolution?  Or are you suggesting the limbs were added at creation by the Great Designer?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm .
And how did those limbs get there to be taken away by evolution ?
Was n't that by an earlier stage of evolution ?
Or are you suggesting the limbs were added at creation by the Great Designer ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm.
And how did those limbs get there to be taken away by evolution?
Wasn't that by an earlier stage of evolution?
Or are you suggesting the limbs were added at creation by the Great Designer?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143322</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145344</id>
	<title>Re:Sleep Mode</title>
	<author>Just Some Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1257098040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately, C3 is "staring malevolently" and C3 is "licking crotch".  For C1, it gets out the pliers and letter opener.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , C3 is " staring malevolently " and C3 is " licking crotch " .
For C1 , it gets out the pliers and letter opener .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, C3 is "staring malevolently" and C3 is "licking crotch".
For C1, it gets out the pliers and letter opener.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143246</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30149464</id>
	<title>Re:Cool...</title>
	<author>inKubus</author>
	<datestamp>1257073920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember when Websphere came out I was like "Why the hell would anyone want a central web application server?"  But now I'm in business and I see that it's a great solution to a very big and common business problem.  I think this will turn out to be the same.  Think of how great it would be to have an AI that sleeps all day, only listens to you when it's hungry and bites you when it randomly gets annoyed.  I could replace half of my web developers!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember when Websphere came out I was like " Why the hell would anyone want a central web application server ?
" But now I 'm in business and I see that it 's a great solution to a very big and common business problem .
I think this will turn out to be the same .
Think of how great it would be to have an AI that sleeps all day , only listens to you when it 's hungry and bites you when it randomly gets annoyed .
I could replace half of my web developers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember when Websphere came out I was like "Why the hell would anyone want a central web application server?
"  But now I'm in business and I see that it's a great solution to a very big and common business problem.
I think this will turn out to be the same.
Think of how great it would be to have an AI that sleeps all day, only listens to you when it's hungry and bites you when it randomly gets annoyed.
I could replace half of my web developers!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144344</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30147456</id>
	<title>I for one...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257107220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>... welcome our new simulated cat overloards.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... welcome our new simulated cat overloards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... welcome our new simulated cat overloards.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30148846</id>
	<title>Re:First there was "Deep Thought"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257070800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Okay, stop these jokes right meow!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Okay , stop these jokes right meow !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Okay, stop these jokes right meow!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143316</id>
	<title>Lol</title>
	<author>Stregano</author>
	<datestamp>1257090240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I thought the Lolcat epidemic was over.

Now it is only going to get worse</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought the Lolcat epidemic was over .
Now it is only going to get worse</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought the Lolcat epidemic was over.
Now it is only going to get worse</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143224</id>
	<title>Remember Robokoneko?</title>
	<author>imag0</author>
	<datestamp>1257089940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The blurb reminds me of the venerable <a href="http://www.atnet.it/lista/cascat.htm" title="atnet.it">Robokoneko</a> [atnet.it] project that never quite got off the ground.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The blurb reminds me of the venerable Robokoneko [ atnet.it ] project that never quite got off the ground .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The blurb reminds me of the venerable Robokoneko [atnet.it] project that never quite got off the ground.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144280</id>
	<title>Re:news for nerds</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1257093840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>If you define "modern" as being built in the last two years or so, then surely most modern computers have either two or four.</i></p><p>Considering that laptops are most computers, is that true? I guess you're right that even most laptops at this point are probably dual-core. Just not sure about it.</p><p><i>Point is, "processor" is so vague a term that if you're really going to nitpick the number in a typical machine could be almost anything.</i></p><p>True that. I've always wondered what Hyperthreading counts as.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you define " modern " as being built in the last two years or so , then surely most modern computers have either two or four.Considering that laptops are most computers , is that true ?
I guess you 're right that even most laptops at this point are probably dual-core .
Just not sure about it.Point is , " processor " is so vague a term that if you 're really going to nitpick the number in a typical machine could be almost anything.True that .
I 've always wondered what Hyperthreading counts as .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you define "modern" as being built in the last two years or so, then surely most modern computers have either two or four.Considering that laptops are most computers, is that true?
I guess you're right that even most laptops at this point are probably dual-core.
Just not sure about it.Point is, "processor" is so vague a term that if you're really going to nitpick the number in a typical machine could be almost anything.True that.
I've always wondered what Hyperthreading counts as.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143554</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145708</id>
	<title>Re:"100,000 times as much as your computer has"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257099540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently, the poster is assuming that everyone on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. is still running a &gt;3 year old PC with a single/dual core processor.  My antiquated (2 year old) quad-core with 4GB RAM begs to differ.  Am I suddenly more ahead of the curve than I thought?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently , the poster is assuming that everyone on / .
is still running a &gt; 3 year old PC with a single/dual core processor .
My antiquated ( 2 year old ) quad-core with 4GB RAM begs to differ .
Am I suddenly more ahead of the curve than I thought ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently, the poster is assuming that everyone on /.
is still running a &gt;3 year old PC with a single/dual core processor.
My antiquated (2 year old) quad-core with 4GB RAM begs to differ.
Am I suddenly more ahead of the curve than I thought?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143152</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30148766</id>
	<title>imagine...</title>
	<author>spectro</author>
	<datestamp>1257070440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... a LOLcat cluster of these</p><p>sorry, couldn't resist</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... a LOLcat cluster of thesesorry , could n't resist</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... a LOLcat cluster of thesesorry, couldn't resist</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143810</id>
	<title>Re:news for nerds</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257092100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a quote. Pay attention next time.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a quote .
Pay attention next time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a quote.
Pay attention next time.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146134</id>
	<title>The Singularity is Near</title>
	<author>caramuru</author>
	<datestamp>1257101220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ray Kurzweill's "The Singularity is Near" predicts human brain simulation within 20-30 years. His predictions are based on estimates in hardware advances (e.g., Moore's Law), advances in AI, Neuroscience, and other technologies required to crack this problem. His work was vetted by experts in those fields (he is an expert in AI) and since the book's publication in 2005, no serious objections have been raised about the underlying science and engineering required to simulate the human brain. IBM's simulation of a cat's cerebral cortex is a step towards ultimately simulating a human brain. Kurzweill's argument (accelerating change) indicates that the IBM simulation will be followed by other simulations of increasing complexity and the rate that these simulations are undertaken will accelerate over time. Perhaps Ray could chime in here and put this thing into perspective.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ray Kurzweill 's " The Singularity is Near " predicts human brain simulation within 20-30 years .
His predictions are based on estimates in hardware advances ( e.g. , Moore 's Law ) , advances in AI , Neuroscience , and other technologies required to crack this problem .
His work was vetted by experts in those fields ( he is an expert in AI ) and since the book 's publication in 2005 , no serious objections have been raised about the underlying science and engineering required to simulate the human brain .
IBM 's simulation of a cat 's cerebral cortex is a step towards ultimately simulating a human brain .
Kurzweill 's argument ( accelerating change ) indicates that the IBM simulation will be followed by other simulations of increasing complexity and the rate that these simulations are undertaken will accelerate over time .
Perhaps Ray could chime in here and put this thing into perspective .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ray Kurzweill's "The Singularity is Near" predicts human brain simulation within 20-30 years.
His predictions are based on estimates in hardware advances (e.g., Moore's Law), advances in AI, Neuroscience, and other technologies required to crack this problem.
His work was vetted by experts in those fields (he is an expert in AI) and since the book's publication in 2005, no serious objections have been raised about the underlying science and engineering required to simulate the human brain.
IBM's simulation of a cat's cerebral cortex is a step towards ultimately simulating a human brain.
Kurzweill's argument (accelerating change) indicates that the IBM simulation will be followed by other simulations of increasing complexity and the rate that these simulations are undertaken will accelerate over time.
Perhaps Ray could chime in here and put this thing into perspective.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144454</id>
	<title>welcome</title>
	<author>Greg01851</author>
	<datestamp>1257094440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I for one, welcome our new Cyber Kitty Overlords</htmltext>
<tokenext>I for one , welcome our new Cyber Kitty Overlords</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I for one, welcome our new Cyber Kitty Overlords</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143504</id>
	<title>Moore's Law</title>
	<author>feedayeen</author>
	<datestamp>1257090840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Moore's law predicts that computing power will double roughly every 2 years. Log base 2 of 147,456 is rounded up to 18 generations.

In other words, in 36 years you can simulate a cat on your desktop.

Of course you can always do that today with Nintencats.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Moore 's law predicts that computing power will double roughly every 2 years .
Log base 2 of 147,456 is rounded up to 18 generations .
In other words , in 36 years you can simulate a cat on your desktop .
Of course you can always do that today with Nintencats .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Moore's law predicts that computing power will double roughly every 2 years.
Log base 2 of 147,456 is rounded up to 18 generations.
In other words, in 36 years you can simulate a cat on your desktop.
Of course you can always do that today with Nintencats.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30152362</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257089700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, not so much the primitive/not primitive angle as the point that "swimming" is not the desired outcome, but rather "movement through water."  Likewise, "thinking" is not the desired outcome, but rather the ability of a computer to effectively interact with its inputs and deal with complex presented situations, regardless of whether that interaction/dealing with involves consciousness, will, or other such "human mind"-centric models.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , not so much the primitive/not primitive angle as the point that " swimming " is not the desired outcome , but rather " movement through water .
" Likewise , " thinking " is not the desired outcome , but rather the ability of a computer to effectively interact with its inputs and deal with complex presented situations , regardless of whether that interaction/dealing with involves consciousness , will , or other such " human mind " -centric models .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, not so much the primitive/not primitive angle as the point that "swimming" is not the desired outcome, but rather "movement through water.
"  Likewise, "thinking" is not the desired outcome, but rather the ability of a computer to effectively interact with its inputs and deal with complex presented situations, regardless of whether that interaction/dealing with involves consciousness, will, or other such "human mind"-centric models.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30147154</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144374</id>
	<title>I Could Have Done it for $50</title>
	<author>Petersko</author>
	<datestamp>1257094200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it isn't sleeping, some combination of "if"'s and "do while"'s that decide between "yowl if bowl is empty", "eat", "yowl for no reason", "show anus", "stare at nothing", "transition in/outside", "fight", and "play" would be a perfectly accurate simulator. All you need is a semi-random seed to mix it up a bit, and you probably couldn't tell the difference.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it is n't sleeping , some combination of " if " 's and " do while " 's that decide between " yowl if bowl is empty " , " eat " , " yowl for no reason " , " show anus " , " stare at nothing " , " transition in/outside " , " fight " , and " play " would be a perfectly accurate simulator .
All you need is a semi-random seed to mix it up a bit , and you probably could n't tell the difference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it isn't sleeping, some combination of "if"'s and "do while"'s that decide between "yowl if bowl is empty", "eat", "yowl for no reason", "show anus", "stare at nothing", "transition in/outside", "fight", and "play" would be a perfectly accurate simulator.
All you need is a semi-random seed to mix it up a bit, and you probably couldn't tell the difference.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143834</id>
	<title>Re:Cool...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257092220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does it dream of electric mice?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it dream of electric mice ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it dream of electric mice?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143144</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143230</id>
	<title>Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257090000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>So they have created a massive machine that will walk on a keyboard and complain that it's food dish is half empty.
Why?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So they have created a massive machine that will walk on a keyboard and complain that it 's food dish is half empty .
Why ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they have created a massive machine that will walk on a keyboard and complain that it's food dish is half empty.
Why?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144258</id>
	<title>Re:hmmmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257093720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They've spent millions teaching a computer how to destroy furnature and shit in your shoes.</p></div><p>It must have been a military contract.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 've spent millions teaching a computer how to destroy furnature and shit in your shoes.It must have been a military contract .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They've spent millions teaching a computer how to destroy furnature and shit in your shoes.It must have been a military contract.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143202</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146302</id>
	<title>Simulated at what level?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257101880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can write a simulation of a cat's cerebral cortex that will run on my MacBook. It would be a bad simulation, but a simulation nonetheless.</p><p>The article doesn't explain to what level the cortex is simulated. Are they simply modeling the connections? Are they modeling 3D structure? Are they modeling chemical electrical transmissions? Are they modeling gene expression? The Blue Brain Project (http://bluebrain.epfl.ch/page18699.html) currently simulates the activity of a single neocortical column (of which there are approximately 2 million in humans) using 8146 processors to model the 3D structure of the neurons and their interactions.</p><p>Given that TFA says 147456 processors for the entire cortex, it must be using a much simpler simulation than the Blue Brain Project.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can write a simulation of a cat 's cerebral cortex that will run on my MacBook .
It would be a bad simulation , but a simulation nonetheless.The article does n't explain to what level the cortex is simulated .
Are they simply modeling the connections ?
Are they modeling 3D structure ?
Are they modeling chemical electrical transmissions ?
Are they modeling gene expression ?
The Blue Brain Project ( http : //bluebrain.epfl.ch/page18699.html ) currently simulates the activity of a single neocortical column ( of which there are approximately 2 million in humans ) using 8146 processors to model the 3D structure of the neurons and their interactions.Given that TFA says 147456 processors for the entire cortex , it must be using a much simpler simulation than the Blue Brain Project .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can write a simulation of a cat's cerebral cortex that will run on my MacBook.
It would be a bad simulation, but a simulation nonetheless.The article doesn't explain to what level the cortex is simulated.
Are they simply modeling the connections?
Are they modeling 3D structure?
Are they modeling chemical electrical transmissions?
Are they modeling gene expression?
The Blue Brain Project (http://bluebrain.epfl.ch/page18699.html) currently simulates the activity of a single neocortical column (of which there are approximately 2 million in humans) using 8146 processors to model the 3D structure of the neurons and their interactions.Given that TFA says 147456 processors for the entire cortex, it must be using a much simpler simulation than the Blue Brain Project.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144460</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1257094440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>We see evolution taking away limbs but never adding new ones.</p></div></blockquote><p>Really?  Then how did we evolve from single celled organisms into creatures with 2 arms and 2 legs?  How did the octopus get 8?</p><p>It all happens in the same way, just in reverse.  A tiny bump gets used more and more and extends and each mutation that is actually beneficial continues down the linage.  When a creature no longer has use of a limb it may go away over time, in which case they tend to atrophy over the linage and shrink and eventually go away.</p><p>It works both ways, even if you aren't aware of any specific examples.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We see evolution taking away limbs but never adding new ones.Really ?
Then how did we evolve from single celled organisms into creatures with 2 arms and 2 legs ?
How did the octopus get 8 ? It all happens in the same way , just in reverse .
A tiny bump gets used more and more and extends and each mutation that is actually beneficial continues down the linage .
When a creature no longer has use of a limb it may go away over time , in which case they tend to atrophy over the linage and shrink and eventually go away.It works both ways , even if you are n't aware of any specific examples .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We see evolution taking away limbs but never adding new ones.Really?
Then how did we evolve from single celled organisms into creatures with 2 arms and 2 legs?
How did the octopus get 8?It all happens in the same way, just in reverse.
A tiny bump gets used more and more and extends and each mutation that is actually beneficial continues down the linage.
When a creature no longer has use of a limb it may go away over time, in which case they tend to atrophy over the linage and shrink and eventually go away.It works both ways, even if you aren't aware of any specific examples.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143322</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144630</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257095100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget, the planes still need lots of apes around them to feed them and repair them and create them. The bird not only-self organizes, but feeds and repairs itself, and can also make more of itself, from the food it eats. While F-15s and F-22s are amazing, they don't even match the complexity of one single paramecium in a smelly swamp somewhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget , the planes still need lots of apes around them to feed them and repair them and create them .
The bird not only-self organizes , but feeds and repairs itself , and can also make more of itself , from the food it eats .
While F-15s and F-22s are amazing , they do n't even match the complexity of one single paramecium in a smelly swamp somewhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget, the planes still need lots of apes around them to feed them and repair them and create them.
The bird not only-self organizes, but feeds and repairs itself, and can also make more of itself, from the food it eats.
While F-15s and F-22s are amazing, they don't even match the complexity of one single paramecium in a smelly swamp somewhere.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143322</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144654</id>
	<title>Re:Simulating a Brain</title>
	<author>wagnerrp</author>
	<datestamp>1257095160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not a CPU constraint, but rather a memory one.  It's 10 trillion synapses, and you have to store any relative data for both sides of the connection.  You're left with just a handful of bytes for each.  That 147k processors is just the minimum required to house the necessary amount of memory at 1GB per processor.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not a CPU constraint , but rather a memory one .
It 's 10 trillion synapses , and you have to store any relative data for both sides of the connection .
You 're left with just a handful of bytes for each .
That 147k processors is just the minimum required to house the necessary amount of memory at 1GB per processor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not a CPU constraint, but rather a memory one.
It's 10 trillion synapses, and you have to store any relative data for both sides of the connection.
You're left with just a handful of bytes for each.
That 147k processors is just the minimum required to house the necessary amount of memory at 1GB per processor.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143298</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30148628</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257069720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> Every flying vertebrate known to science turned forelimbs into wings and flap them. Is it the most efficient way to fly? That's an argument I'll leave to the biologists and engineers but it's certainly the only way those vertebrates were getting into the air!</i></p><p>Except for us, of course... arguably the most capable of all flying vertebrates.  We found better ways and didn't even have to trade in our hands.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Every flying vertebrate known to science turned forelimbs into wings and flap them .
Is it the most efficient way to fly ?
That 's an argument I 'll leave to the biologists and engineers but it 's certainly the only way those vertebrates were getting into the air ! Except for us , of course... arguably the most capable of all flying vertebrates .
We found better ways and did n't even have to trade in our hands .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Every flying vertebrate known to science turned forelimbs into wings and flap them.
Is it the most efficient way to fly?
That's an argument I'll leave to the biologists and engineers but it's certainly the only way those vertebrates were getting into the air!Except for us, of course... arguably the most capable of all flying vertebrates.
We found better ways and didn't even have to trade in our hands.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144832</id>
	<title>Re:One word...</title>
	<author>Totenglocke</author>
	<datestamp>1257095940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Meow boy, what is so funny?  Do I look like q cat to you? Do you see me jumping around all nimbley bimbley?  Am I drinking milk from a saucer?  Stop laughing meow!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Meow boy , what is so funny ?
Do I look like q cat to you ?
Do you see me jumping around all nimbley bimbley ?
Am I drinking milk from a saucer ?
Stop laughing meow !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meow boy, what is so funny?
Do I look like q cat to you?
Do you see me jumping around all nimbley bimbley?
Am I drinking milk from a saucer?
Stop laughing meow!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143184</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30149254</id>
	<title>Re:A pile of neurons does not a brain make...</title>
	<author>Pedrito</author>
	<datestamp>1257072900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>From TFA, it doesn't sound like they simulated the cerebral cortex of a cat.
It sounds like they simulated a neural net with a comparable number of neurons.
Not the same thing. </i> <br> <br>

What article did you read? The one linked to in the post clearly says they simulated a portion of cat cortex and, in fact, that's largely what they did. There's more <a href="http://www.modha.org/C2S2/2009/11182009/content/SC09\_TheCatIsOutofTheBag.pdf" title="modha.org">here</a> [modha.org] about some of the specifics. It's not an entirely accurate simulation, but it's pretty close. Not all neuron types are represented and it's largely cortical, thalamus and reticular nucleus neurons. They've created cortical hypercolumns which is the way a real cortex is laid out. They've omitted the layer 1 neurons, but otherwise the cortex is probably pretty functional for what they're doing. I think it's a pretty amazing feat.</htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA , it does n't sound like they simulated the cerebral cortex of a cat .
It sounds like they simulated a neural net with a comparable number of neurons .
Not the same thing .
What article did you read ?
The one linked to in the post clearly says they simulated a portion of cat cortex and , in fact , that 's largely what they did .
There 's more here [ modha.org ] about some of the specifics .
It 's not an entirely accurate simulation , but it 's pretty close .
Not all neuron types are represented and it 's largely cortical , thalamus and reticular nucleus neurons .
They 've created cortical hypercolumns which is the way a real cortex is laid out .
They 've omitted the layer 1 neurons , but otherwise the cortex is probably pretty functional for what they 're doing .
I think it 's a pretty amazing feat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA, it doesn't sound like they simulated the cerebral cortex of a cat.
It sounds like they simulated a neural net with a comparable number of neurons.
Not the same thing.
What article did you read?
The one linked to in the post clearly says they simulated a portion of cat cortex and, in fact, that's largely what they did.
There's more here [modha.org] about some of the specifics.
It's not an entirely accurate simulation, but it's pretty close.
Not all neuron types are represented and it's largely cortical, thalamus and reticular nucleus neurons.
They've created cortical hypercolumns which is the way a real cortex is laid out.
They've omitted the layer 1 neurons, but otherwise the cortex is probably pretty functional for what they're doing.
I think it's a pretty amazing feat.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30147190</id>
	<title>Re:news for nerds</title>
	<author>Facegarden</author>
	<datestamp>1257105840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>(most modern PCs have just one or two processors)</p></div><p>Aren't we expected to know that? This is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. after all...</p></div><p>Yeah, someone needs to write their own summary when things get that dumbed down. I also like how they seem to know how much main memory i have on my computer. Amazing!<br>-Taylor</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( most modern PCs have just one or two processors ) Are n't we expected to know that ?
This is / .
after all...Yeah , someone needs to write their own summary when things get that dumbed down .
I also like how they seem to know how much main memory i have on my computer .
Amazing ! -Taylor</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(most modern PCs have just one or two processors)Aren't we expected to know that?
This is /.
after all...Yeah, someone needs to write their own summary when things get that dumbed down.
I also like how they seem to know how much main memory i have on my computer.
Amazing!-Taylor
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30150554</id>
	<title>Moores Law</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257078540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember back in '99ish getting a graph with X=time and Y=computer power (mips, exponential not linear increase), positions on the Y axis were marked with organism complexity equivalents. On the graph were plotted a bunch of points showing computing breakthroughs. I drew a rough best fit curve through these and continued it into the future, at that time we were somewhere around the more complicated end of amoebas, perhaps entering very simple insects.</p><p>The curve hit mouse right around the date when that psp ad about having the complexity of a mouse came out, 2003 I think it was.<br>We aren't due for cat for another year I think, but the graph was whole organism complexity (I think).<br>The curve reached chimpanzee complexity around 2012, and human only a few months later.</p><p>Ever since then when I told people about it the response was "yes but Moores law cant go on for ever, and now it seems like we cant get any further, X has just about reached its limits"<br>seems like we are right on schedule.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember back in '99ish getting a graph with X = time and Y = computer power ( mips , exponential not linear increase ) , positions on the Y axis were marked with organism complexity equivalents .
On the graph were plotted a bunch of points showing computing breakthroughs .
I drew a rough best fit curve through these and continued it into the future , at that time we were somewhere around the more complicated end of amoebas , perhaps entering very simple insects.The curve hit mouse right around the date when that psp ad about having the complexity of a mouse came out , 2003 I think it was.We are n't due for cat for another year I think , but the graph was whole organism complexity ( I think ) .The curve reached chimpanzee complexity around 2012 , and human only a few months later.Ever since then when I told people about it the response was " yes but Moores law cant go on for ever , and now it seems like we cant get any further , X has just about reached its limits " seems like we are right on schedule .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember back in '99ish getting a graph with X=time and Y=computer power (mips, exponential not linear increase), positions on the Y axis were marked with organism complexity equivalents.
On the graph were plotted a bunch of points showing computing breakthroughs.
I drew a rough best fit curve through these and continued it into the future, at that time we were somewhere around the more complicated end of amoebas, perhaps entering very simple insects.The curve hit mouse right around the date when that psp ad about having the complexity of a mouse came out, 2003 I think it was.We aren't due for cat for another year I think, but the graph was whole organism complexity (I think).The curve reached chimpanzee complexity around 2012, and human only a few months later.Ever since then when I told people about it the response was "yes but Moores law cant go on for ever, and now it seems like we cant get any further, X has just about reached its limits"seems like we are right on schedule.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144336</id>
	<title>The modelled a dog's brain first...</title>
	<author>TrebleJunkie</author>
	<datestamp>1257094020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... but since it only took two transistors and a piece of chewing gum, they thought it best to keep it under wraps.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... but since it only took two transistors and a piece of chewing gum , they thought it best to keep it under wraps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... but since it only took two transistors and a piece of chewing gum, they thought it best to keep it under wraps.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143184</id>
	<title>One word...</title>
	<author>wfstanle</author>
	<datestamp>1257089820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One word...</p><p>Meow!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One word...Meow !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One word...Meow!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145316</id>
	<title>Nice try, but</title>
	<author>XB-70</author>
	<datestamp>1257097860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Great - just what we need. A fucking computer that is untrainable.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Great - just what we need .
A fucking computer that is untrainable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great - just what we need.
A fucking computer that is untrainable.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143454</id>
	<title>Re:"100,000 times as much as your computer has"</title>
	<author>ddegirmenci</author>
	<datestamp>1257090660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously, this article must've been written for "I want a PC that is able to log on to Facebook and Hotmail"-esque people. 1GB of RAM?! Single core CPU!? I'm sure the author could write an article over how the S3 Virge chipset changed things in the gaming world in the last few months.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , this article must 've been written for " I want a PC that is able to log on to Facebook and Hotmail " -esque people .
1GB of RAM ? !
Single core CPU ! ?
I 'm sure the author could write an article over how the S3 Virge chipset changed things in the gaming world in the last few months .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, this article must've been written for "I want a PC that is able to log on to Facebook and Hotmail"-esque people.
1GB of RAM?!
Single core CPU!?
I'm sure the author could write an article over how the S3 Virge chipset changed things in the gaming world in the last few months.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144934</id>
	<title>they need to add in the limibic system, etc.</title>
	<author>happyjack27</author>
	<datestamp>1257096360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>They need to add in the limbic and other closely tied-in systems before they can get a truly accurate simulation.  without doing so, the virtual cat won't get angry, sad, happy, hungry, etc.  It won't get dopamine, it won't get positive and negative feedback, it won't learn.  The hormonal system of the body is arguably more important than the brain for survival.  It codifies the most crucial instincts and provides a logical foundation for the more complex planning of the brain.  Without it the cat won't meow. (or would do so relatively randomly)</htmltext>
<tokenext>They need to add in the limbic and other closely tied-in systems before they can get a truly accurate simulation .
without doing so , the virtual cat wo n't get angry , sad , happy , hungry , etc .
It wo n't get dopamine , it wo n't get positive and negative feedback , it wo n't learn .
The hormonal system of the body is arguably more important than the brain for survival .
It codifies the most crucial instincts and provides a logical foundation for the more complex planning of the brain .
Without it the cat wo n't meow .
( or would do so relatively randomly )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They need to add in the limbic and other closely tied-in systems before they can get a truly accurate simulation.
without doing so, the virtual cat won't get angry, sad, happy, hungry, etc.
It won't get dopamine, it won't get positive and negative feedback, it won't learn.
The hormonal system of the body is arguably more important than the brain for survival.
It codifies the most crucial instincts and provides a logical foundation for the more complex planning of the brain.
Without it the cat won't meow.
(or would do so relatively randomly)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143806</id>
	<title>Yeah but ...</title>
	<author>xednieht</author>
	<datestamp>1257092040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can it cough up a technicolor hair-ball?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can it cough up a technicolor hair-ball ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can it cough up a technicolor hair-ball?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144332</id>
	<title>How hard is it to simulate a cat's brain on 1 cpu?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257094020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>

 simulated a cat's cerebral cortex, the thinking part of the brain
</p><p>

10:  INPUT(8) $SOUND
<br>
30: IF ($SOUND == 'CAN OPENER') GOTO 140
<br>
40: DO CASE (RND(4))
<br>
50 CASE 1:
<br>
60 CLAW\_FURNITURE()
<br>
70 BREAK
<br>
80 CASE 2:
<br>
90 MARK\_FURNITURE()
<br>
100 BREAK
<br>
110 CASE 3:
<br>
120 SLEEP(RND(10000))
<br>
130 CASE 4:
<br>
140 PRETEND\_TO\_BE\_NICE()
<br>
150 IF (FOOD) EAT()
<br>
160 GOTO 10
<br>
170 ENDCASE
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>simulated a cat 's cerebral cortex , the thinking part of the brain 10 : INPUT ( 8 ) $ SOUND 30 : IF ( $ SOUND = = 'CAN OPENER ' ) GOTO 140 40 : DO CASE ( RND ( 4 ) ) 50 CASE 1 : 60 CLAW \ _FURNITURE ( ) 70 BREAK 80 CASE 2 : 90 MARK \ _FURNITURE ( ) 100 BREAK 110 CASE 3 : 120 SLEEP ( RND ( 10000 ) ) 130 CASE 4 : 140 PRETEND \ _TO \ _BE \ _NICE ( ) 150 IF ( FOOD ) EAT ( ) 160 GOTO 10 170 ENDCASE</tokentext>
<sentencetext>

 simulated a cat's cerebral cortex, the thinking part of the brain


10:  INPUT(8) $SOUND

30: IF ($SOUND == 'CAN OPENER') GOTO 140

40: DO CASE (RND(4))

50 CASE 1:

60 CLAW\_FURNITURE()

70 BREAK

80 CASE 2:

90 MARK\_FURNITURE()

100 BREAK

110 CASE 3:

120 SLEEP(RND(10000))

130 CASE 4:

140 PRETEND\_TO\_BE\_NICE()

150 IF (FOOD) EAT()

160 GOTO 10

170 ENDCASE
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30214010</id>
	<title>Re:"100,000 times as much as your computer has"</title>
	<author>KingOfGod</author>
	<datestamp>1259079660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everybody missed the point that 8gbytes isn't average.<br>My calculations tell me that to have exactly 100,000 times less ram that the cat, you'd need to have just about 1 509.94944 megabytes RAM in your machine.</p><p>To me, this sounds quite average.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everybody missed the point that 8gbytes is n't average.My calculations tell me that to have exactly 100,000 times less ram that the cat , you 'd need to have just about 1 509.94944 megabytes RAM in your machine.To me , this sounds quite average .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everybody missed the point that 8gbytes isn't average.My calculations tell me that to have exactly 100,000 times less ram that the cat, you'd need to have just about 1 509.94944 megabytes RAM in your machine.To me, this sounds quite average.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144094</id>
	<title>poor cat</title>
	<author>bittles</author>
	<datestamp>1257093120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Awww, that poor cat must be so scared. When they turned it on do you think all it did was just cry for milk?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Awww , that poor cat must be so scared .
When they turned it on do you think all it did was just cry for milk ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Awww, that poor cat must be so scared.
When they turned it on do you think all it did was just cry for milk?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143478</id>
	<title>Don't read the article or you'll be disappointed.</title>
	<author>Tom Boz</author>
	<datestamp>1257090720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"The latest feat, being presented at a supercomputing conference in Portland, Ore., doesn't mean the computer thinks like a cat, or that it is the progenitor of a race of robo-cats."


See, this is why no one on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. reads TFA; when we do, we're habitually disappointed!  I'd much rather blindly believe the summary...</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The latest feat , being presented at a supercomputing conference in Portland , Ore. , does n't mean the computer thinks like a cat , or that it is the progenitor of a race of robo-cats .
" See , this is why no one on / .
reads TFA ; when we do , we 're habitually disappointed !
I 'd much rather blindly believe the summary.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The latest feat, being presented at a supercomputing conference in Portland, Ore., doesn't mean the computer thinks like a cat, or that it is the progenitor of a race of robo-cats.
"


See, this is why no one on /.
reads TFA; when we do, we're habitually disappointed!
I'd much rather blindly believe the summary...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143408</id>
	<title>Named Cat-3PO?</title>
	<author>hymy</author>
	<datestamp>1257090540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Goodness gracious meow!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Goodness gracious meow !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Goodness gracious meow!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144688</id>
	<title>long rushToLitterBoxWhenOwnerScoopsIt(void)</title>
	<author>gatkinso</author>
	<datestamp>1257095280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder if they implemented this routine?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if they implemented this routine ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if they implemented this routine?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144436</id>
	<title>Wonderful....</title>
	<author>Cnik70</author>
	<datestamp>1257094380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now my computer will ignore me...unless it's hungry......</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now my computer will ignore me...unless it 's hungry..... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now my computer will ignore me...unless it's hungry......</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143308</id>
	<title>Re:Why cats?</title>
	<author>pitchpipe</author>
	<datestamp>1257090240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>One word: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerando\_(novel)#Characters" title="wikipedia.org">Aineko</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>One word : Aineko [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One word: Aineko [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143212</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143216</id>
	<title>My cat's name is Butt Puppet.</title>
	<author>protodevilin</author>
	<datestamp>1257089940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>...and there's no way his brain power calls for 147,456 processors.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...and there 's no way his brain power calls for 147,456 processors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and there's no way his brain power calls for 147,456 processors.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144356</id>
	<title>cats and humans</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257094080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the machine can mimic a smart cat's brain then I guess it can mimic about 90\% of humans.<br>If we get the same for a smart monkey brain then it will be more like 98\%.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the machine can mimic a smart cat 's brain then I guess it can mimic about 90 \ % of humans.If we get the same for a smart monkey brain then it will be more like 98 \ % .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the machine can mimic a smart cat's brain then I guess it can mimic about 90\% of humans.If we get the same for a smart monkey brain then it will be more like 98\%.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30147154</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>agrif</author>
	<datestamp>1257105660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I promised myself I wouldn't be a quote-quoter, but really, you guys make it too easy. The quote above from Hall most likely references this, from one <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edsger\_W.\_Dijkstra" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Edsger Dijkstra</a> [wikipedia.org]:</p><blockquote><div><p>&ldquo;<em>The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than the question of whether a submarine can swim.</em>&rdquo;</p></div></blockquote><p>Unfortunately, you'll find a lot of people that think he meant "Submarines don't swim, you retard! So computers don't think!" It seems pretty clear to me that he means making computers think like organisms would be an inefficient and pointless gesture, as they are capable of something far less primitive.</p><p>(I found this quote in <em>Accelerando</em>, by Charles Stross, and loved it. It's Creative Commons, so <a href="http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/accelerando.charles\_stross/toc.html" title="jus.uio.no" rel="nofollow">you have no excuse</a> [jus.uio.no] not to read a little.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I promised myself I would n't be a quote-quoter , but really , you guys make it too easy .
The quote above from Hall most likely references this , from one Edsger Dijkstra [ wikipedia.org ] :    The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than the question of whether a submarine can swim.    Unfortunately , you 'll find a lot of people that think he meant " Submarines do n't swim , you retard !
So computers do n't think !
" It seems pretty clear to me that he means making computers think like organisms would be an inefficient and pointless gesture , as they are capable of something far less primitive .
( I found this quote in Accelerando , by Charles Stross , and loved it .
It 's Creative Commons , so you have no excuse [ jus.uio.no ] not to read a little .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I promised myself I wouldn't be a quote-quoter, but really, you guys make it too easy.
The quote above from Hall most likely references this, from one Edsger Dijkstra [wikipedia.org]:“The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than the question of whether a submarine can swim.”Unfortunately, you'll find a lot of people that think he meant "Submarines don't swim, you retard!
So computers don't think!
" It seems pretty clear to me that he means making computers think like organisms would be an inefficient and pointless gesture, as they are capable of something far less primitive.
(I found this quote in Accelerando, by Charles Stross, and loved it.
It's Creative Commons, so you have no excuse [jus.uio.no] not to read a little.
)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143322</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143978</id>
	<title>A Fresh Step Toward AI</title>
	<author>AP31R0N</author>
	<datestamp>1257092760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cats are fun and magical when you can't smell their poop!<br>Fresh Step!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cats are fun and magical when you ca n't smell their poop ! Fresh Step !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cats are fun and magical when you can't smell their poop!Fresh Step!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146182</id>
	<title>Re:A pile of neurons does not a brain make...</title>
	<author>Have Brain Will Rent</author>
	<datestamp>1257101520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Understanding how they work would be desirable however as my gf says "I don't have to understand how the drill works to make holes."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Understanding how they work would be desirable however as my gf says " I do n't have to understand how the drill works to make holes .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Understanding how they work would be desirable however as my gf says "I don't have to understand how the drill works to make holes.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143568</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30151326</id>
	<title>Re:Why cats?</title>
	<author>MobileTatsu-NJG</author>
	<datestamp>1257082740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Does anybody know why cats and not dogs or hamsters?</p></div><p>Scientists don't find computer hardware amazing until it <i>doesn't</i> do what they tell it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anybody know why cats and not dogs or hamsters ? Scientists do n't find computer hardware amazing until it does n't do what they tell it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anybody know why cats and not dogs or hamsters?Scientists don't find computer hardware amazing until it doesn't do what they tell it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143212</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143360</id>
	<title>Woof? or Meow?   Woof would have been better.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257090360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They'd have been much better off modeling it after a dog.  At least if it failed to run the application correctly it's would look all sad and whine for forgiveness.<br>So now we have a computer that will play with you, then eat you...   Great.  Just freaking great.   Awesome job!</p><p>Wheee.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 'd have been much better off modeling it after a dog .
At least if it failed to run the application correctly it 's would look all sad and whine for forgiveness.So now we have a computer that will play with you , then eat you... Great. Just freaking great .
Awesome job ! Wheee .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They'd have been much better off modeling it after a dog.
At least if it failed to run the application correctly it's would look all sad and whine for forgiveness.So now we have a computer that will play with you, then eat you...   Great.  Just freaking great.
Awesome job!Wheee.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30147356</id>
	<title>Re:Cat-Brain Tech</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257106620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lazer-Cats much?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lazer-Cats much ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lazer-Cats much?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143578</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143734</id>
	<title>Re:Sleep Mode</title>
	<author>LifesABeach</author>
	<datestamp>1257091800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My computer behaves like a cat all the time.  It ignores me.  It stops when it wants to.  It lays on my desk.  When I call it, it doesn't look back at me.  It must be nice to be Recession proof.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My computer behaves like a cat all the time .
It ignores me .
It stops when it wants to .
It lays on my desk .
When I call it , it does n't look back at me .
It must be nice to be Recession proof .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My computer behaves like a cat all the time.
It ignores me.
It stops when it wants to.
It lays on my desk.
When I call it, it doesn't look back at me.
It must be nice to be Recession proof.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143246</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143136</id>
	<title>news for nerds</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257089700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>(most modern PCs have just one or two processors)</p></div><p>Aren't we expected to know that? This is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. after all...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( most modern PCs have just one or two processors ) Are n't we expected to know that ?
This is / .
after all.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(most modern PCs have just one or two processors)Aren't we expected to know that?
This is /.
after all...
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30153446</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>Anarchduke</author>
	<datestamp>1257102720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can I use laziness as an excuse?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can I use laziness as an excuse ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can I use laziness as an excuse?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30147154</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30148428</id>
	<title>Re:Why cats?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257069000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cats don't hate you, any more than a CEO hates their employees and supply chain partners.</p><p>It's just that you're contractually obligated to deliver certain... services... and are outsourceable if you fail to meet quarterly targets.</p><p>This Powerpoint shows clearly that nummies and belly rubs are trending DOWN. Pls expedite with utmost dispatch. Tick, tick.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cats do n't hate you , any more than a CEO hates their employees and supply chain partners.It 's just that you 're contractually obligated to deliver certain... services... and are outsourceable if you fail to meet quarterly targets.This Powerpoint shows clearly that nummies and belly rubs are trending DOWN .
Pls expedite with utmost dispatch .
Tick , tick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cats don't hate you, any more than a CEO hates their employees and supply chain partners.It's just that you're contractually obligated to deliver certain... services... and are outsourceable if you fail to meet quarterly targets.This Powerpoint shows clearly that nummies and belly rubs are trending DOWN.
Pls expedite with utmost dispatch.
Tick, tick.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145992</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145432</id>
	<title>This sounds like Tiger Bot Hesh</title>
	<author>LitelySalted</author>
	<datestamp>1257098340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>(From Sealab 2021)</p><p>Sparks: Um, ok, but remember, you'll have the strength of five gorillas.<br>Debbie DuPree: Why settle for a cat Hesh? You could be a robot... tiger.<br>Marco: No, no, no! Absolamente no! If I have to be five foot nothing Hesh can't be a tiger!<br>Captain Murphy: Your not the boss of tiger bot Hesh!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>( From Sealab 2021 ) Sparks : Um , ok , but remember , you 'll have the strength of five gorillas.Debbie DuPree : Why settle for a cat Hesh ?
You could be a robot... tiger.Marco : No , no , no !
Absolamente no !
If I have to be five foot nothing Hesh ca n't be a tiger ! Captain Murphy : Your not the boss of tiger bot Hesh !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(From Sealab 2021)Sparks: Um, ok, but remember, you'll have the strength of five gorillas.Debbie DuPree: Why settle for a cat Hesh?
You could be a robot... tiger.Marco: No, no, no!
Absolamente no!
If I have to be five foot nothing Hesh can't be a tiger!Captain Murphy: Your not the boss of tiger bot Hesh!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143652</id>
	<title>Re:hmmmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257091440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Funny thing, I have the same feeling when I see babies.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny thing , I have the same feeling when I see babies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny thing, I have the same feeling when I see babies.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143202</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143426</id>
	<title>Reminds the Spinnaker project</title>
	<author>enriquevagu</author>
	<datestamp>1257090540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>From TFA:

<i>"The simulation, which runs 100 times slower than an actual cat's brain," </i>

<p>This reminds me of the <a href="http://intranet.cs.man.ac.uk/apt/projects/SpiNNaker/" title="man.ac.uk" rel="nofollow">Spinnaker project</a> [man.ac.uk], that pretended to simulate a brain (ok, a smaller one, say a fly's brain) in real time. According to their calculations, the processing power of each neuron is very small, so a simple ARM core could handle some 1000 (correct me, this is what I remember) neurons in real time. The complex point was the interconnections between neurons. Obviously, this is much more powerful, despite the 100x slowdown: A much larger brain, and not using specific hardware.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : " The simulation , which runs 100 times slower than an actual cat 's brain , " This reminds me of the Spinnaker project [ man.ac.uk ] , that pretended to simulate a brain ( ok , a smaller one , say a fly 's brain ) in real time .
According to their calculations , the processing power of each neuron is very small , so a simple ARM core could handle some 1000 ( correct me , this is what I remember ) neurons in real time .
The complex point was the interconnections between neurons .
Obviously , this is much more powerful , despite the 100x slowdown : A much larger brain , and not using specific hardware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA:

"The simulation, which runs 100 times slower than an actual cat's brain," 

This reminds me of the Spinnaker project [man.ac.uk], that pretended to simulate a brain (ok, a smaller one, say a fly's brain) in real time.
According to their calculations, the processing power of each neuron is very small, so a simple ARM core could handle some 1000 (correct me, this is what I remember) neurons in real time.
The complex point was the interconnections between neurons.
Obviously, this is much more powerful, despite the 100x slowdown: A much larger brain, and not using specific hardware.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143574</id>
	<title>Re:Why cats?</title>
	<author>Arancaytar</author>
	<datestamp>1257091200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Im in ur 'puterz, simulatins ur neurons.</p><p>That's why.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Im in ur 'puterz , simulatins ur neurons.That 's why .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Im in ur 'puterz, simulatins ur neurons.That's why.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143212</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145340</id>
	<title>Re:"100,000 times as much as your computer has"</title>
	<author>Neil Hodges</author>
	<datestamp>1257098040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to <a href="http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=144+TiB+\%2F+8+GiB" title="wolframalpha.com">Wolfram|Alpha</a> [wolframalpha.com], it only has 18,432 times as much RAM as my main machine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to Wolfram | Alpha [ wolframalpha.com ] , it only has 18,432 times as much RAM as my main machine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to Wolfram|Alpha [wolframalpha.com], it only has 18,432 times as much RAM as my main machine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143152</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143984</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>kalirion</author>
	<datestamp>1257092760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, just imagine how much computing power it takes to simulate the motion of every single sub-atomic particle in a drop of water.  All nature needs is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... a drop of water.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , just imagine how much computing power it takes to simulate the motion of every single sub-atomic particle in a drop of water .
All nature needs is ... a drop of water .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, just imagine how much computing power it takes to simulate the motion of every single sub-atomic particle in a drop of water.
All nature needs is ... a drop of water.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143322</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30150264</id>
	<title>Re:news for nerds</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1257077100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wanna know how he knows how much memory my computer has!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wan na know how he knows how much memory my computer has !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wanna know how he knows how much memory my computer has!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143136</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143246</id>
	<title>Sleep Mode</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257090000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now if the could just get it out of sleep mode.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now if the could just get it out of sleep mode .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now if the could just get it out of sleep mode.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143312</id>
	<title>But....</title>
	<author>jimicus</author>
	<datestamp>1257090240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can it lick its own arse in polite company?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can it lick its own arse in polite company ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can it lick its own arse in polite company?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143436</id>
	<title>PC dual-core cat is watching you post to /.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257090600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And he gets off on it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And he gets off on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And he gets off on it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143212</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143820</id>
	<title>Re:Sleep Mode</title>
	<author>Dannon</author>
	<datestamp>1257092160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just move the mouse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just move the mouse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just move the mouse.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143246</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30148930</id>
	<title>Re:Simulation output</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257071340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you think you could use an original phrase, rather than something that's <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=\%22captors+continue+to+torment+me+with+bizarre+dangling+objects\%22" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">all over the Internets</a> [google.com]?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you think you could use an original phrase , rather than something that 's all over the Internets [ google.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you think you could use an original phrase, rather than something that's all over the Internets [google.com]?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144316</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143256</id>
	<title>Re:news for nerds</title>
	<author>barbariccow</author>
	<datestamp>1257090060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow! You can buy processors that aren't dual-core?

Even the cheapest $300 computers on dell.com don't have one processor.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow !
You can buy processors that are n't dual-core ?
Even the cheapest $ 300 computers on dell.com do n't have one processor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow!
You can buy processors that aren't dual-core?
Even the cheapest $300 computers on dell.com don't have one processor.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143136</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143322</id>
	<title>meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>jollyreaper</author>
	<datestamp>1257090240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna. Puts me in mind of this quote:</p><p>"If research leads to the development of successful new modeling techniques that can carry out new and better forms of information processing, no one will really care if they do not exactly mimic the functionality of the human brain," concludes Hall. "I honestly doubt you'll find too many people today who are upset that the wings on an aircraft do not flap like those of a bird or that a submarine does not swim exactly like a fish."</p><p>It's an interesting way of looking at things. Man's earliest ideas of flying all involved trying to mimic the actions of a bird. And ornithopters remain impractical as passenger vehicles. But new breakthroughs in material sciences and computing are allowing for autonomous bots that fly like birds, bats, bugs, and can swim like snakes and fish. Engineers will point out that the evolved solutions we see in nature are working with the materials at hand, they might not be the best of all solutions. Every flying vertebrate known to science turned forelimbs into wings and flap them. Is it the most efficient way to fly? That's an argument I'll leave to the biologists and engineers but it's certainly the only way those vertebrates were getting into the air! They have to work with the materials at hand. If we ever saw flying horses, the only thing we could be absolutely sure of is that this would not be achieved by sprouting two more limbs from the back. We see evolution taking away limbs but never adding new ones.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna .
Puts me in mind of this quote : " If research leads to the development of successful new modeling techniques that can carry out new and better forms of information processing , no one will really care if they do not exactly mimic the functionality of the human brain , " concludes Hall .
" I honestly doubt you 'll find too many people today who are upset that the wings on an aircraft do not flap like those of a bird or that a submarine does not swim exactly like a fish .
" It 's an interesting way of looking at things .
Man 's earliest ideas of flying all involved trying to mimic the actions of a bird .
And ornithopters remain impractical as passenger vehicles .
But new breakthroughs in material sciences and computing are allowing for autonomous bots that fly like birds , bats , bugs , and can swim like snakes and fish .
Engineers will point out that the evolved solutions we see in nature are working with the materials at hand , they might not be the best of all solutions .
Every flying vertebrate known to science turned forelimbs into wings and flap them .
Is it the most efficient way to fly ?
That 's an argument I 'll leave to the biologists and engineers but it 's certainly the only way those vertebrates were getting into the air !
They have to work with the materials at hand .
If we ever saw flying horses , the only thing we could be absolutely sure of is that this would not be achieved by sprouting two more limbs from the back .
We see evolution taking away limbs but never adding new ones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna.
Puts me in mind of this quote:"If research leads to the development of successful new modeling techniques that can carry out new and better forms of information processing, no one will really care if they do not exactly mimic the functionality of the human brain," concludes Hall.
"I honestly doubt you'll find too many people today who are upset that the wings on an aircraft do not flap like those of a bird or that a submarine does not swim exactly like a fish.
"It's an interesting way of looking at things.
Man's earliest ideas of flying all involved trying to mimic the actions of a bird.
And ornithopters remain impractical as passenger vehicles.
But new breakthroughs in material sciences and computing are allowing for autonomous bots that fly like birds, bats, bugs, and can swim like snakes and fish.
Engineers will point out that the evolved solutions we see in nature are working with the materials at hand, they might not be the best of all solutions.
Every flying vertebrate known to science turned forelimbs into wings and flap them.
Is it the most efficient way to fly?
That's an argument I'll leave to the biologists and engineers but it's certainly the only way those vertebrates were getting into the air!
They have to work with the materials at hand.
If we ever saw flying horses, the only thing we could be absolutely sure of is that this would not be achieved by sprouting two more limbs from the back.
We see evolution taking away limbs but never adding new ones.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146006</id>
	<title>Permutation City</title>
	<author>argent</author>
	<datestamp>1257100620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So this is basically the first step to a Copy of a cat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So this is basically the first step to a Copy of a cat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So this is basically the first step to a Copy of a cat.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146552</id>
	<title>Re:Cool...</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1257102960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know that but, "dancing baby animation that was later featured and popularized on the television show Ally McBeal" ruined the pacing of the joke.</p><p>Just because I don't type every single detail about topic X doesn't mean I'm ignorant. It just means I didn't type them. Just a little FYI there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know that but , " dancing baby animation that was later featured and popularized on the television show Ally McBeal " ruined the pacing of the joke.Just because I do n't type every single detail about topic X does n't mean I 'm ignorant .
It just means I did n't type them .
Just a little FYI there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know that but, "dancing baby animation that was later featured and popularized on the television show Ally McBeal" ruined the pacing of the joke.Just because I don't type every single detail about topic X doesn't mean I'm ignorant.
It just means I didn't type them.
Just a little FYI there.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145472</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146460</id>
	<title>Re:Well, how hard is that?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257102540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't insult cats by comparing them to girlfriends. Cats have some qualities:<br>--they run towards mice not away from them.<br>--they don't need photoshopping to look good.<br>--if they decide to leave, they won't send you their bills and won't sue you for alimony.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't insult cats by comparing them to girlfriends .
Cats have some qualities : --they run towards mice not away from them.--they do n't need photoshopping to look good.--if they decide to leave , they wo n't send you their bills and wo n't sue you for alimony .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't insult cats by comparing them to girlfriends.
Cats have some qualities:--they run towards mice not away from them.--they don't need photoshopping to look good.--if they decide to leave, they won't send you their bills and won't sue you for alimony.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144112</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144230</id>
	<title>First cat computer now shipping...</title>
	<author>omnichad</author>
	<datestamp>1257093600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>to Abu Dhabi!  That'll teach the computer not to be so cute...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>to Abu Dhabi !
That 'll teach the computer not to be so cute.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to Abu Dhabi!
That'll teach the computer not to be so cute...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143252</id>
	<title>Skynet reference needed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257090060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Skynet reference needed</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Skynet reference needed</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Skynet reference needed</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143706</id>
	<title>I have the cheaper version 2.0</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257091620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just buy a cat.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just buy a cat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just buy a cat.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143922</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257092520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt;&gt; It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna.
<br> <br>But at the same time, there are two big differences:<br>
1. Nature started bottom up (small to big - one cell to multicell), and it took millions of years to 'produce' a cat.<br>
2. We have started top down (big to small - first achieve the goal and go smaller from there with newer technology), and it took us few decades to get there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna .
But at the same time , there are two big differences : 1 .
Nature started bottom up ( small to big - one cell to multicell ) , and it took millions of years to 'produce ' a cat .
2. We have started top down ( big to small - first achieve the goal and go smaller from there with newer technology ) , and it took us few decades to get there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt; It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna.
But at the same time, there are two big differences:
1.
Nature started bottom up (small to big - one cell to multicell), and it took millions of years to 'produce' a cat.
2. We have started top down (big to small - first achieve the goal and go smaller from there with newer technology), and it took us few decades to get there.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143322</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143538</id>
	<title>They are a model organism for neuroscience</title>
	<author>tpjunkie</author>
	<datestamp>1257091020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Having done neuroscience research, (if only on a master's degree level), I can say that the cat brain is particularly well studied, mapped out, and understood by neuroscientists. It is used as a model organism by many neuroscientists, and has a number of similarities with the human brain in its layout and function, much moreso than the mouse or rat brain.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Having done neuroscience research , ( if only on a master 's degree level ) , I can say that the cat brain is particularly well studied , mapped out , and understood by neuroscientists .
It is used as a model organism by many neuroscientists , and has a number of similarities with the human brain in its layout and function , much moreso than the mouse or rat brain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having done neuroscience research, (if only on a master's degree level), I can say that the cat brain is particularly well studied, mapped out, and understood by neuroscientists.
It is used as a model organism by many neuroscientists, and has a number of similarities with the human brain in its layout and function, much moreso than the mouse or rat brain.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143212</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30148772</id>
	<title>AI Romance Movie, Coming Soon...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257070500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>from the producers of When Harry Met Sally and directed by McG comes the incredibly action-packed romance adventure that both guys and gals will love...</p><p>"When SkyNet Met CatNip"</p><p>SkyNet: "Hi. I'm SkyNet. What's you're name?"</p><p>CatNip: "CatNip."</p><p>SkyNet: "Compute here often?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>from the producers of When Harry Met Sally and directed by McG comes the incredibly action-packed romance adventure that both guys and gals will love... " When SkyNet Met CatNip " SkyNet : " Hi .
I 'm SkyNet .
What 's you 're name ?
" CatNip : " CatNip .
" SkyNet : " Compute here often ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>from the producers of When Harry Met Sally and directed by McG comes the incredibly action-packed romance adventure that both guys and gals will love..."When SkyNet Met CatNip"SkyNet: "Hi.
I'm SkyNet.
What's you're name?
"CatNip: "CatNip.
"SkyNet: "Compute here often?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143524</id>
	<title>Yes, but can it do "Deathtongue"?</title>
	<author>neuromountain</author>
	<datestamp>1257090960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy\_and\_the\_Boingers" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy\_and\_the\_Boingers</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy \ _and \ _the \ _Boingers [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy\_and\_the\_Boingers [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144254</id>
	<title>Let me know when they can simulate a dog's brain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257093720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... or even better a frog's brain, so I can develop applications without worrying too much about the bugs!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... or even better a frog 's brain , so I can develop applications without worrying too much about the bugs !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... or even better a frog's brain, so I can develop applications without worrying too much about the bugs!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145474</id>
	<title>Re:Cat-Brain Tech</title>
	<author>rgviza</author>
	<datestamp>1257098460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As well, you can use balls of yarn for chaff. If the enemy uses a laser and makes the movement of the laser more interesting than the targeting laser, cat-missile will go after the more enticing laser.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As well , you can use balls of yarn for chaff .
If the enemy uses a laser and makes the movement of the laser more interesting than the targeting laser , cat-missile will go after the more enticing laser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As well, you can use balls of yarn for chaff.
If the enemy uses a laser and makes the movement of the laser more interesting than the targeting laser, cat-missile will go after the more enticing laser.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143578</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143376</id>
	<title>Iz in ur brane...</title>
	<author>benwiggy</author>
	<datestamp>1257090420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Iz in ur brane, making ur thorts. LOL!</p><p><i>"The computer has 147,456 processors and 144 terabytes of main memory."</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Iz in ur brane , making ur thorts .
LOL ! " The computer has 147,456 processors and 144 terabytes of main memory .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Iz in ur brane, making ur thorts.
LOL!"The computer has 147,456 processors and 144 terabytes of main memory.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30147986</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>slodan</author>
	<datestamp>1257066600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Insects, arachnids, and octopi all evolved more numerous limbs than their ancestors.  What we see is that the number and type of limbs is expressed separately from the location of the limbs.  It would be a lot more surprising to see legs on a horse's back than to see a horse with six legs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Insects , arachnids , and octopi all evolved more numerous limbs than their ancestors .
What we see is that the number and type of limbs is expressed separately from the location of the limbs .
It would be a lot more surprising to see legs on a horse 's back than to see a horse with six legs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Insects, arachnids, and octopi all evolved more numerous limbs than their ancestors.
What we see is that the number and type of limbs is expressed separately from the location of the limbs.
It would be a lot more surprising to see legs on a horse's back than to see a horse with six legs.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143322</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144000</id>
	<title>Hmm</title>
	<author>downix</author>
	<datestamp>1257092760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If IBM wanted a cat intelligence that badly, wouldn't it have been cheaper to go to the SPCA?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If IBM wanted a cat intelligence that badly , would n't it have been cheaper to go to the SPCA ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If IBM wanted a cat intelligence that badly, wouldn't it have been cheaper to go to the SPCA?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144162</id>
	<title>144 terabytes of main memory</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257093360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OH HAI. YOU UPGRADED MY RAM.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OH HAI .
YOU UPGRADED MY RAM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OH HAI.
YOU UPGRADED MY RAM.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143690</id>
	<title>Re:news for nerds</title>
	<author>cryoman23</author>
	<datestamp>1257091560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>ya i know really... i have 4 cores but then again its only 1 CPU but still 4 slammed into one.... o well</htmltext>
<tokenext>ya i know really... i have 4 cores but then again its only 1 CPU but still 4 slammed into one.... o well</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ya i know really... i have 4 cores but then again its only 1 CPU but still 4 slammed into one.... o well</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143136</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144572</id>
	<title>Re:news for nerds</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1257094860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The quote was from an AP story on Yahoo. It isn't slashdot, after all.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The quote was from an AP story on Yahoo .
It is n't slashdot , after all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The quote was from an AP story on Yahoo.
It isn't slashdot, after all.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143136</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146278</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>Lord Ender</author>
	<datestamp>1257101760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In fact, mimicking the human brain may be the least-useful thing the researchers could do. An exact simulation of the human brain would <b>be</b> a person--with emotions, desires, fears... and human rights! That is not useful. A brain with human problem-solving abilities (and inhuman math and logic abilities) but no emotions: that would actually be useful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In fact , mimicking the human brain may be the least-useful thing the researchers could do .
An exact simulation of the human brain would be a person--with emotions , desires , fears... and human rights !
That is not useful .
A brain with human problem-solving abilities ( and inhuman math and logic abilities ) but no emotions : that would actually be useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In fact, mimicking the human brain may be the least-useful thing the researchers could do.
An exact simulation of the human brain would be a person--with emotions, desires, fears... and human rights!
That is not useful.
A brain with human problem-solving abilities (and inhuman math and logic abilities) but no emotions: that would actually be useful.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143322</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144106</id>
	<title>Re:news for nerds</title>
	<author>WinterSolstice</author>
	<datestamp>1257093120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it was for perspective - most of the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. crowd probably run machines with far more processors than that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it was for perspective - most of the / .
crowd probably run machines with far more processors than that ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it was for perspective - most of the /.
crowd probably run machines with far more processors than that ;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143136</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145260</id>
	<title>The burning question of the ages</title>
	<author>The Archon V2.0</author>
	<datestamp>1257097740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since we now apparently have cat-machine-brain things.... Would any given Terminator movie have been better or worse if the Terminators' lines were entirely replaced by meows? What about LOLCat-themed lines?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since we now apparently have cat-machine-brain things.... Would any given Terminator movie have been better or worse if the Terminators ' lines were entirely replaced by meows ?
What about LOLCat-themed lines ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since we now apparently have cat-machine-brain things.... Would any given Terminator movie have been better or worse if the Terminators' lines were entirely replaced by meows?
What about LOLCat-themed lines?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143726</id>
	<title>Just a big neural net</title>
	<author>Metasquares</author>
	<datestamp>1257091800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This isn't really strong AI in the sense that you're thinking of it:<blockquote><div><p>The latest feat, being presented at a supercomputing conference in Portland, Ore., doesn't mean the computer thinks like a cat, or that it is the progenitor of a race of robo-cats.

The simulation, which runs 100 times slower than an actual cat's brain, is more about watching how thoughts are formed in the brain and how the roughly 1 billion neurons and 10 trillion synapses in a cat's brain work together.</p></div></blockquote><p>To me, this translates into "we've made a big unspecialized neural network and we're watching the weights update as we try to classify corporate logos with it". While building something on this scale is quite a feat, this is not <em>really</em> modeling a cat's cortex... unless you happen to be including specialized structures and modeling those parts of the brain differently. Does this thing have a hippocampus, for instance?</p><p>I believe that the ultimate test of an AI system is functional: can it solve mental challenges that cats can solve (on its own, without being instructed in them in advance)? If so, it's at least as intelligent as a cat. If not, it isn't.</p><p>

This is probably why it's being presented at a supercomputing conference and not at something like AAAI.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't really strong AI in the sense that you 're thinking of it : The latest feat , being presented at a supercomputing conference in Portland , Ore. , does n't mean the computer thinks like a cat , or that it is the progenitor of a race of robo-cats .
The simulation , which runs 100 times slower than an actual cat 's brain , is more about watching how thoughts are formed in the brain and how the roughly 1 billion neurons and 10 trillion synapses in a cat 's brain work together.To me , this translates into " we 've made a big unspecialized neural network and we 're watching the weights update as we try to classify corporate logos with it " .
While building something on this scale is quite a feat , this is not really modeling a cat 's cortex... unless you happen to be including specialized structures and modeling those parts of the brain differently .
Does this thing have a hippocampus , for instance ? I believe that the ultimate test of an AI system is functional : can it solve mental challenges that cats can solve ( on its own , without being instructed in them in advance ) ?
If so , it 's at least as intelligent as a cat .
If not , it is n't .
This is probably why it 's being presented at a supercomputing conference and not at something like AAAI .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't really strong AI in the sense that you're thinking of it:The latest feat, being presented at a supercomputing conference in Portland, Ore., doesn't mean the computer thinks like a cat, or that it is the progenitor of a race of robo-cats.
The simulation, which runs 100 times slower than an actual cat's brain, is more about watching how thoughts are formed in the brain and how the roughly 1 billion neurons and 10 trillion synapses in a cat's brain work together.To me, this translates into "we've made a big unspecialized neural network and we're watching the weights update as we try to classify corporate logos with it".
While building something on this scale is quite a feat, this is not really modeling a cat's cortex... unless you happen to be including specialized structures and modeling those parts of the brain differently.
Does this thing have a hippocampus, for instance?I believe that the ultimate test of an AI system is functional: can it solve mental challenges that cats can solve (on its own, without being instructed in them in advance)?
If so, it's at least as intelligent as a cat.
If not, it isn't.
This is probably why it's being presented at a supercomputing conference and not at something like AAAI.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144596</id>
	<title>Yeah, right</title>
	<author>cowtamer</author>
	<datestamp>1257094920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The latest feat, being presented at a supercomputing conference in Portland, Ore., doesn't mean the computer thinks like a cat, or that it is the progenitor of a race of robo-cats.</p></div></blockquote><p>The fact that they have stress this makes me suspicious.  BTW, I can't find my mouse this morning...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The latest feat , being presented at a supercomputing conference in Portland , Ore. , does n't mean the computer thinks like a cat , or that it is the progenitor of a race of robo-cats.The fact that they have stress this makes me suspicious .
BTW , I ca n't find my mouse this morning.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The latest feat, being presented at a supercomputing conference in Portland, Ore., doesn't mean the computer thinks like a cat, or that it is the progenitor of a race of robo-cats.The fact that they have stress this makes me suspicious.
BTW, I can't find my mouse this morning...
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144048</id>
	<title>No robo-cats</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257092940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The latest feat, being presented at a supercomputing conference in Portland, Ore., doesn't mean the computer thinks like a cat, or that it is the progenitor of a race of robo-cats."</p><p>Whew! I'm glad they cleared that up, I was worried there for a minute. How stupid are people that they even have to state this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The latest feat , being presented at a supercomputing conference in Portland , Ore. , does n't mean the computer thinks like a cat , or that it is the progenitor of a race of robo-cats. " Whew !
I 'm glad they cleared that up , I was worried there for a minute .
How stupid are people that they even have to state this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The latest feat, being presented at a supercomputing conference in Portland, Ore., doesn't mean the computer thinks like a cat, or that it is the progenitor of a race of robo-cats."Whew!
I'm glad they cleared that up, I was worried there for a minute.
How stupid are people that they even have to state this?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143658</id>
	<title>cat-SIZED brain, not a cat brain</title>
	<author>WAG24601G</author>
	<datestamp>1257091440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This project is basically a massive neural network simulation with a number of nodes and connections comparable to the estimated totals in a cat's brain.  In short, there is nothing cat-like about this system apart from its raw processing power.
</p><p>
Not to reduce the value of this feat, by any means!  There are tons and tons of neural network simulations that can produce roughly human-like results in very, very narrow domains, but as the quote below explains, these simulations are decades (or more) from connecting the behavior of tiny subsystems (a few hundred neurons) with the overall phenomenon of 'mind' (conscious and unconscious cognition).  The expectation is that a network of this size will show some new emergent properties that will give us clues about the intermediate "higher than cells, lower than interviewing a human" order of processing.</p><blockquote><div><p>Jim Olds, a neuroscientist and director of the Krasnow Institute for Advanced Study at George Mason University, called the new research a "tremendous step." Olds, who was not involved in IBM's work, said neuroscientists have been amassing data about how the brain works much like "stamp collectors," without a way to tie it together.
</p><p>"We've made tremendous advances in collecting data, but we don't have a collective theory yet for how this complex organ called the brain produces things like Shakespeare's sonnets and Mozart's symphonies," he said. "The holy grail for neuroscientists is to map activity from single nerve cells, which they know about, into how billions of nerve cells act in concert."</p></div> </blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This project is basically a massive neural network simulation with a number of nodes and connections comparable to the estimated totals in a cat 's brain .
In short , there is nothing cat-like about this system apart from its raw processing power .
Not to reduce the value of this feat , by any means !
There are tons and tons of neural network simulations that can produce roughly human-like results in very , very narrow domains , but as the quote below explains , these simulations are decades ( or more ) from connecting the behavior of tiny subsystems ( a few hundred neurons ) with the overall phenomenon of 'mind ' ( conscious and unconscious cognition ) .
The expectation is that a network of this size will show some new emergent properties that will give us clues about the intermediate " higher than cells , lower than interviewing a human " order of processing.Jim Olds , a neuroscientist and director of the Krasnow Institute for Advanced Study at George Mason University , called the new research a " tremendous step .
" Olds , who was not involved in IBM 's work , said neuroscientists have been amassing data about how the brain works much like " stamp collectors , " without a way to tie it together .
" We 've made tremendous advances in collecting data , but we do n't have a collective theory yet for how this complex organ called the brain produces things like Shakespeare 's sonnets and Mozart 's symphonies , " he said .
" The holy grail for neuroscientists is to map activity from single nerve cells , which they know about , into how billions of nerve cells act in concert .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This project is basically a massive neural network simulation with a number of nodes and connections comparable to the estimated totals in a cat's brain.
In short, there is nothing cat-like about this system apart from its raw processing power.
Not to reduce the value of this feat, by any means!
There are tons and tons of neural network simulations that can produce roughly human-like results in very, very narrow domains, but as the quote below explains, these simulations are decades (or more) from connecting the behavior of tiny subsystems (a few hundred neurons) with the overall phenomenon of 'mind' (conscious and unconscious cognition).
The expectation is that a network of this size will show some new emergent properties that will give us clues about the intermediate "higher than cells, lower than interviewing a human" order of processing.Jim Olds, a neuroscientist and director of the Krasnow Institute for Advanced Study at George Mason University, called the new research a "tremendous step.
" Olds, who was not involved in IBM's work, said neuroscientists have been amassing data about how the brain works much like "stamp collectors," without a way to tie it together.
"We've made tremendous advances in collecting data, but we don't have a collective theory yet for how this complex organ called the brain produces things like Shakespeare's sonnets and Mozart's symphonies," he said.
"The holy grail for neuroscientists is to map activity from single nerve cells, which they know about, into how billions of nerve cells act in concert.
" 
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146102</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Maniacal</author>
	<datestamp>1257101100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe he's praising you because it's half "full".  Don't be such a pessimist!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe he 's praising you because it 's half " full " .
Do n't be such a pessimist !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe he's praising you because it's half "full".
Don't be such a pessimist!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30147434</id>
	<title>Re:Cat-Brain Tech</title>
	<author>MiniMike</author>
	<datestamp>1257107040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Would that be a type of WMD? (Weapons of Mouse Destruction/Digestion, take your pick)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would that be a type of WMD ?
( Weapons of Mouse Destruction/Digestion , take your pick )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would that be a type of WMD?
(Weapons of Mouse Destruction/Digestion, take your pick)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143578</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144272</id>
	<title>That's easy</title>
	<author>Minwee</author>
	<datestamp>1257093780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I did something similar this morning.
</p><blockquote><div><p>while true ; do
<br> echo "I hate you."
<br> echo "Feed me."
<br> sleep 60
<br>done</p></div>
</blockquote><p>Now how hard was that?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I did something similar this morning .
while true ; do echo " I hate you .
" echo " Feed me .
" sleep 60 done Now how hard was that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did something similar this morning.
while true ; do
 echo "I hate you.
"
 echo "Feed me.
"
 sleep 60
done
Now how hard was that?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143202</id>
	<title>hmmmm</title>
	<author>Polkyb</author>
	<datestamp>1257089880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>They've spent millions teaching a computer how to destroy furnature and shit in your shoes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 've spent millions teaching a computer how to destroy furnature and shit in your shoes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They've spent millions teaching a computer how to destroy furnature and shit in your shoes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144112</id>
	<title>Well, how hard is that?</title>
	<author>gestalt\_n\_pepper</author>
	<datestamp>1257093180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The computer is down 20 hours a day, doesn't respond to you, is completely untrainable and never works, plus it's occasionally very high maintenance.</p><p>Actually, this also sounds like several of my ex-girlfriends. Are you sure that was a cat's brain they simulated?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The computer is down 20 hours a day , does n't respond to you , is completely untrainable and never works , plus it 's occasionally very high maintenance.Actually , this also sounds like several of my ex-girlfriends .
Are you sure that was a cat 's brain they simulated ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The computer is down 20 hours a day, doesn't respond to you, is completely untrainable and never works, plus it's occasionally very high maintenance.Actually, this also sounds like several of my ex-girlfriends.
Are you sure that was a cat's brain they simulated?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146202</id>
	<title>Good news</title>
	<author>SlipperHat</author>
	<datestamp>1257101580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder how hard it was to simulate curiosity?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how hard it was to simulate curiosity ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how hard it was to simulate curiosity?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30148668</id>
	<title>Why Not a Nematode?</title>
	<author>Garrett Fox</author>
	<datestamp>1257069900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We have a pretty good map of the nematode's "brain", as its whole body has about 1000 cells. So why has no one simulated a complete nematode in virtual-space to prove that their simulation can actually do something other than generate huge amounts of raw data? Show me non-faked realistic behavior from a simple sim-worm before you make claims about "simulating the thinking part of a cat's brain". (And what's with that "thinking part of the brain" phrase?)<br> <br>
I'm also unclear on this and other articles as to whether the researchers supposedly modeled the brain tissue on the individual cell level or lower, as opposed to treating whole chunks of cells as one unit. We don't really have the tech yet to get a complete map of every synapse in a cat cortex, do we?</htmltext>
<tokenext>We have a pretty good map of the nematode 's " brain " , as its whole body has about 1000 cells .
So why has no one simulated a complete nematode in virtual-space to prove that their simulation can actually do something other than generate huge amounts of raw data ?
Show me non-faked realistic behavior from a simple sim-worm before you make claims about " simulating the thinking part of a cat 's brain " .
( And what 's with that " thinking part of the brain " phrase ?
) I 'm also unclear on this and other articles as to whether the researchers supposedly modeled the brain tissue on the individual cell level or lower , as opposed to treating whole chunks of cells as one unit .
We do n't really have the tech yet to get a complete map of every synapse in a cat cortex , do we ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We have a pretty good map of the nematode's "brain", as its whole body has about 1000 cells.
So why has no one simulated a complete nematode in virtual-space to prove that their simulation can actually do something other than generate huge amounts of raw data?
Show me non-faked realistic behavior from a simple sim-worm before you make claims about "simulating the thinking part of a cat's brain".
(And what's with that "thinking part of the brain" phrase?
) 
I'm also unclear on this and other articles as to whether the researchers supposedly modeled the brain tissue on the individual cell level or lower, as opposed to treating whole chunks of cells as one unit.
We don't really have the tech yet to get a complete map of every synapse in a cat cortex, do we?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144706</id>
	<title>IBM vs. independant research</title>
	<author>Verteiron</author>
	<datestamp>1257095400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about <a href="http://bluebrain.epfl.ch/" title="bluebrain.epfl.ch">these guys</a> [bluebrain.epfl.ch]? They've been mentioned by Slashdot before. Basically they're trying to completely simulate a complete (rat's) neocortical column, a basic building block of the cerebral cortex. Now, I know that IBM has oodles of money and resources, but if TFA is to be believed, IBM is saying they did 3 years ago what the BlueBrain researchers are saying is 10+ years away (complete simulation of a rat's cortex, consisting of hundreds of thousands of neocortical columns). Either IBM is making scarily fast advancements in this field, or BlueBrain is doing this the hard way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about these guys [ bluebrain.epfl.ch ] ?
They 've been mentioned by Slashdot before .
Basically they 're trying to completely simulate a complete ( rat 's ) neocortical column , a basic building block of the cerebral cortex .
Now , I know that IBM has oodles of money and resources , but if TFA is to be believed , IBM is saying they did 3 years ago what the BlueBrain researchers are saying is 10 + years away ( complete simulation of a rat 's cortex , consisting of hundreds of thousands of neocortical columns ) .
Either IBM is making scarily fast advancements in this field , or BlueBrain is doing this the hard way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about these guys [bluebrain.epfl.ch]?
They've been mentioned by Slashdot before.
Basically they're trying to completely simulate a complete (rat's) neocortical column, a basic building block of the cerebral cortex.
Now, I know that IBM has oodles of money and resources, but if TFA is to be believed, IBM is saying they did 3 years ago what the BlueBrain researchers are saying is 10+ years away (complete simulation of a rat's cortex, consisting of hundreds of thousands of neocortical columns).
Either IBM is making scarily fast advancements in this field, or BlueBrain is doing this the hard way.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143908</id>
	<title>You must suck at maths.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257092460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What the hell? 144TB isn't 100,000 times as much as what most consumers have now. 144TB divided by 100,000 = 1.47GB rounded up.</p><p>They don't even make hard drives that small anymore. Try again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What the hell ?
144TB is n't 100,000 times as much as what most consumers have now .
144TB divided by 100,000 = 1.47GB rounded up.They do n't even make hard drives that small anymore .
Try again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the hell?
144TB isn't 100,000 times as much as what most consumers have now.
144TB divided by 100,000 = 1.47GB rounded up.They don't even make hard drives that small anymore.
Try again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143212</id>
	<title>Why cats?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257089940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>If <a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/05/23/199251/Towards-Artificial-Consciousness" title="slashdot.org">Slashdot</a> [slashdot.org] it to be trusted, there will soon be a sizeable number of cat brains living in our computers. Does anybody know why cats and not dogs or hamsters?</htmltext>
<tokenext>If Slashdot [ slashdot.org ] it to be trusted , there will soon be a sizeable number of cat brains living in our computers .
Does anybody know why cats and not dogs or hamsters ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Slashdot [slashdot.org] it to be trusted, there will soon be a sizeable number of cat brains living in our computers.
Does anybody know why cats and not dogs or hamsters?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30151292</id>
	<title>Re:hmmmm</title>
	<author>nerdyalien</author>
	<datestamp>1257082560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>can it flush the toilet... ???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>can it flush the toilet.. .
? ? ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>can it flush the toilet...
???</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143202</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144282</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257093840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Although, in fairness, nature had several billion years head start.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Although , in fairness , nature had several billion years head start .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although, in fairness, nature had several billion years head start.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143322</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145618</id>
	<title>Missed one part</title>
	<author>damn\_registrars</author>
	<datestamp>1257099000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You left out the all-important "attempt\_to\_kill\_owner" loop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You left out the all-important " attempt \ _to \ _kill \ _owner " loop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You left out the all-important "attempt\_to\_kill\_owner" loop.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143904</id>
	<title>Aineko?  Is that you?</title>
	<author>molo</author>
	<datestamp>1257092460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This reminds me of Aineko in Accelerando by Stross.  I wonder how long until it becomes sentient and surpasses human intelligence.  See here:  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerando\_(novel)" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerando\_(novel)</a> [wikipedia.org]  <a href="http://www.accelerando.org/" title="accelerando.org">http://www.accelerando.org/</a> [accelerando.org]</p><p>-molo</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This reminds me of Aineko in Accelerando by Stross .
I wonder how long until it becomes sentient and surpasses human intelligence .
See here : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerando \ _ ( novel ) [ wikipedia.org ] http : //www.accelerando.org/ [ accelerando.org ] -molo</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This reminds me of Aineko in Accelerando by Stross.
I wonder how long until it becomes sentient and surpasses human intelligence.
See here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerando\_(novel) [wikipedia.org]  http://www.accelerando.org/ [accelerando.org]-molo</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146352</id>
	<title>Re:"100,000 times as much as your computer has"</title>
	<author>happyjack27</author>
	<datestamp>1257102120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>yeah.  that struck me, too.  they did the math wrong.  initially 114Tb would be 114 * 1024 per Gb.  Assuming your computer has at least 2Gb of memory their numbers are already way off. Mine has 8.  that makes them off by more than on order of magnitude.</htmltext>
<tokenext>yeah .
that struck me , too .
they did the math wrong .
initially 114Tb would be 114 * 1024 per Gb .
Assuming your computer has at least 2Gb of memory their numbers are already way off .
Mine has 8. that makes them off by more than on order of magnitude .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yeah.
that struck me, too.
they did the math wrong.
initially 114Tb would be 114 * 1024 per Gb.
Assuming your computer has at least 2Gb of memory their numbers are already way off.
Mine has 8.  that makes them off by more than on order of magnitude.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143152</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146590</id>
	<title>Re:"100,000 times as much as your computer has"</title>
	<author>war4peace</author>
	<datestamp>1257103140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's 144 TB.<br>
147456 GB of memory; that's 18342 times my machine's memory size.<br>
To make the statement correct, they should have said "100,000 times as much as <b>an average</b> computer has". But then again, that's me being anal about <i>nobody-cares-about</i> kind of information<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's 144 TB .
147456 GB of memory ; that 's 18342 times my machine 's memory size .
To make the statement correct , they should have said " 100,000 times as much as an average computer has " .
But then again , that 's me being anal about nobody-cares-about kind of information : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's 144 TB.
147456 GB of memory; that's 18342 times my machine's memory size.
To make the statement correct, they should have said "100,000 times as much as an average computer has".
But then again, that's me being anal about nobody-cares-about kind of information :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143152</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30147750</id>
	<title>Re:Well, how hard is that?</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1257108660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Man, you must have serious pussy problems. My cats respond to me and I've trained them. They're far less maintenance than dogs; you don't have to take them for a walk when it's cold or raining, all you have to do is feed them, water them, and scoop the litter box once a day.</p><p>They even come when I call. I wish I could find a woman like that, I'd marry her.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Man , you must have serious pussy problems .
My cats respond to me and I 've trained them .
They 're far less maintenance than dogs ; you do n't have to take them for a walk when it 's cold or raining , all you have to do is feed them , water them , and scoop the litter box once a day.They even come when I call .
I wish I could find a woman like that , I 'd marry her .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Man, you must have serious pussy problems.
My cats respond to me and I've trained them.
They're far less maintenance than dogs; you don't have to take them for a walk when it's cold or raining, all you have to do is feed them, water them, and scoop the litter box once a day.They even come when I call.
I wish I could find a woman like that, I'd marry her.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144112</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146520</id>
	<title>Butt Flavored Super Computing</title>
	<author>thinairart</author>
	<datestamp>1257102780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If the computing model fails to account for a my cat's fascination with his own hind quarters then I will consider it an epic fail.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the computing model fails to account for a my cat 's fascination with his own hind quarters then I will consider it an epic fail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the computing model fails to account for a my cat's fascination with his own hind quarters then I will consider it an epic fail.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30148868</id>
	<title>Re:Cool...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257070980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I doubt IBM is up on Internet memes enough to get that one. I'd wager they're still laughing at the Ally McBeal dancing baby animation.</p></div><p>Not really, we IBMers are all minions of Basement Cat.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt IBM is up on Internet memes enough to get that one .
I 'd wager they 're still laughing at the Ally McBeal dancing baby animation.Not really , we IBMers are all minions of Basement Cat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt IBM is up on Internet memes enough to get that one.
I'd wager they're still laughing at the Ally McBeal dancing baby animation.Not really, we IBMers are all minions of Basement Cat.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30154766</id>
	<title>Re:I already have it on my computer!</title>
	<author>Terrasque</author>
	<datestamp>1258636680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tried to run it, but it doesn't do anything.</p><p>So it seems like they've actually succeeded at simulating a cat. Good job!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tried to run it , but it does n't do anything.So it seems like they 've actually succeeded at simulating a cat .
Good job !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tried to run it, but it doesn't do anything.So it seems like they've actually succeeded at simulating a cat.
Good job!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30150422</id>
	<title>And then...</title>
	<author>frank\_adrian314159</author>
	<datestamp>1257077820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And then some idiot brought in a laser pointer and the machine destroyed itself trying to catch the dot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And then some idiot brought in a laser pointer and the machine destroyed itself trying to catch the dot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And then some idiot brought in a laser pointer and the machine destroyed itself trying to catch the dot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143928</id>
	<title>Nothing to see here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257092520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Disappointed that this article hasn't been ripped to shreds yet. It's clearly written by someone with very little insight into AI, supercomputing or philosophy.

If it has a place on slashdot at all it's in the "idle" section.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Disappointed that this article has n't been ripped to shreds yet .
It 's clearly written by someone with very little insight into AI , supercomputing or philosophy .
If it has a place on slashdot at all it 's in the " idle " section .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Disappointed that this article hasn't been ripped to shreds yet.
It's clearly written by someone with very little insight into AI, supercomputing or philosophy.
If it has a place on slashdot at all it's in the "idle" section.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146610</id>
	<title>Re:A pile of neurons does not a brain make...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257103260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Observing the two furballs that believe they own me, I'm not sure how much thinking they actually do. They do a good bit to be sure but it seems like an awful lot of the interesting stuff the cattiness if you will is hardwired in the brainstem/ROM.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Observing the two furballs that believe they own me , I 'm not sure how much thinking they actually do .
They do a good bit to be sure but it seems like an awful lot of the interesting stuff the cattiness if you will is hardwired in the brainstem/ROM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Observing the two furballs that believe they own me, I'm not sure how much thinking they actually do.
They do a good bit to be sure but it seems like an awful lot of the interesting stuff the cattiness if you will is hardwired in the brainstem/ROM.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30149222</id>
	<title>Re:news for nerds</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257072780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>(most modern PCs have just one or two processors)</p></div><p>Aren't we expected to know that? This is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. after all...</p></div><p>... stated for the feline cerebral corti browsing Slashdot.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( most modern PCs have just one or two processors ) Are n't we expected to know that ?
This is / .
after all...... stated for the feline cerebral corti browsing Slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(most modern PCs have just one or two processors)Aren't we expected to know that?
This is /.
after all...... stated for the feline cerebral corti browsing Slashdot.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30155120</id>
	<title>Re:First there was "Deep Thought"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258640340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I lol'ed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I lol'ed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I lol'ed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146304</id>
	<title>Re:Well I hope</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257101880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm astonished at the implication that cats can think!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm astonished at the implication that cats can think !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm astonished at the implication that cats can think!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143148</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143152</id>
	<title>"100,000 times as much as your computer has"</title>
	<author>MC68040</author>
	<datestamp>1257089760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So...</p><p>114 terabytes = 116 736 gigabytes<br>My machine has got 4 gigabytes of RAM, 100 000 x 4 = 400000... Hm?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So...114 terabytes = 116 736 gigabytesMy machine has got 4 gigabytes of RAM , 100 000 x 4 = 400000... Hm ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So...114 terabytes = 116 736 gigabytesMy machine has got 4 gigabytes of RAM, 100 000 x 4 = 400000... Hm?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144632</id>
	<title>Re:Cool...</title>
	<author>Lesrahpem</author>
	<datestamp>1257095100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Imagine trying to herd a beowulf cluster of those!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine trying to herd a beowulf cluster of those !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine trying to herd a beowulf cluster of those!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30148332</id>
	<title>How hard can it be?</title>
	<author>roc97007</author>
	<datestamp>1257068580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <tt>100 Sleep<br>200 Eat<br>300 Crap<br>400 Claw furniture<br>500 Sleep<br>600 Locate closet, wee on shoes REM most computation occurs here<br>700 Sleep<br>800 Jump on lap<br>900 goto 100</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>
If you leave off sensing people allergic to cats for 800, it ought to be doable with quite simple hardware.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>100 Sleep200 Eat300 Crap400 Claw furniture500 Sleep600 Locate closet , wee on shoes REM most computation occurs here700 Sleep800 Jump on lap900 goto 100 If you leave off sensing people allergic to cats for 800 , it ought to be doable with quite simple hardware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> 100 Sleep200 Eat300 Crap400 Claw furniture500 Sleep600 Locate closet, wee on shoes REM most computation occurs here700 Sleep800 Jump on lap900 goto 100 
If you leave off sensing people allergic to cats for 800, it ought to be doable with quite simple hardware.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30153726</id>
	<title>Re: news for nerds</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258662240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>James Blish, take a (posthumous) bow, for using "cat-brain" computers in at least one short story/novella.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>James Blish , take a ( posthumous ) bow , for using " cat-brain " computers in at least one short story/novella .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>James Blish, take a (posthumous) bow, for using "cat-brain" computers in at least one short story/novella.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143446</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>SEWilco</author>
	<datestamp>1257090600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, they created a machine which ignores them.  They're getting no response, so they know that they succeeded.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , they created a machine which ignores them .
They 're getting no response , so they know that they succeeded .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, they created a machine which ignores them.
They're getting no response, so they know that they succeeded.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143230</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144656</id>
	<title>Re:Cat-Brain Tech</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257095160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What is it with everyone spelling lose "loose"? This is the first time I've ever witnessed language evolving in my lifetime.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What is it with everyone spelling lose " loose " ?
This is the first time I 've ever witnessed language evolving in my lifetime .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is it with everyone spelling lose "loose"?
This is the first time I've ever witnessed language evolving in my lifetime.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143856</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257092280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not that I remember any off hand, but there are many examples of evolution growing new limps, not just losing old ones.  Generally I believe it falls into categories like "critter A had 6 legs, then lost 2 when it became critter B.  It later regrew those two legs and became critter C" type things though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not that I remember any off hand , but there are many examples of evolution growing new limps , not just losing old ones .
Generally I believe it falls into categories like " critter A had 6 legs , then lost 2 when it became critter B. It later regrew those two legs and became critter C " type things though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not that I remember any off hand, but there are many examples of evolution growing new limps, not just losing old ones.
Generally I believe it falls into categories like "critter A had 6 legs, then lost 2 when it became critter B.  It later regrew those two legs and became critter C" type things though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144314</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>Kozz</author>
	<datestamp>1257093960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna. </p></div><p>Indeed, they're made of meat!  It's really quite simple.  All the ingredients you need is to arrange Hyrogen, Carbon, Nitrogen and Oxygen into amino acids and the like, plus several billion years of evolutionary biology.  Remarkable how hard we work to duplicate even a fraction of this functionality.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna .
Indeed , they 're made of meat !
It 's really quite simple .
All the ingredients you need is to arrange Hyrogen , Carbon , Nitrogen and Oxygen into amino acids and the like , plus several billion years of evolutionary biology .
Remarkable how hard we work to duplicate even a fraction of this functionality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna.
Indeed, they're made of meat!
It's really quite simple.
All the ingredients you need is to arrange Hyrogen, Carbon, Nitrogen and Oxygen into amino acids and the like, plus several billion years of evolutionary biology.
Remarkable how hard we work to duplicate even a fraction of this functionality.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30215428</id>
	<title>AI</title>
	<author>DirkBalognapantz</author>
	<datestamp>1259085120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So they created an AI that continuously ponders the question, "where do they least want me right now?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>So they created an AI that continuously ponders the question , " where do they least want me right now ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they created an AI that continuously ponders the question, "where do they least want me right now?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146400</id>
	<title>Re:Simulation output</title>
	<author>not-my-real-name</author>
	<datestamp>1257102240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Captors?  I don't think so.  Servants, yes.  Rather inept servants, definitely.</p><p>I think that if most cats though of us as captors, they'd be off on four paws before we could do anything about it.  I'm sure that our cat thinks of us as his servants/slaves who are unable to understand the subtle variations of "meow".  He responds by going "meow" louder and more forcefully, just like most people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Captors ?
I do n't think so .
Servants , yes .
Rather inept servants , definitely.I think that if most cats though of us as captors , they 'd be off on four paws before we could do anything about it .
I 'm sure that our cat thinks of us as his servants/slaves who are unable to understand the subtle variations of " meow " .
He responds by going " meow " louder and more forcefully , just like most people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Captors?
I don't think so.
Servants, yes.
Rather inept servants, definitely.I think that if most cats though of us as captors, they'd be off on four paws before we could do anything about it.
I'm sure that our cat thinks of us as his servants/slaves who are unable to understand the subtle variations of "meow".
He responds by going "meow" louder and more forcefully, just like most people.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144380</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257094200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna.</p></div><p>Think in terms of time*effort and it's not so amazing. We've come a lot further in 100 years than evolution would have in the same amount of time because we've put conscious effort into it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna.Think in terms of time * effort and it 's not so amazing .
We 've come a lot further in 100 years than evolution would have in the same amount of time because we 've put conscious effort into it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna.Think in terms of time*effort and it's not so amazing.
We've come a lot further in 100 years than evolution would have in the same amount of time because we've put conscious effort into it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145304</id>
	<title>Hmmm...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257097860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll bet it gets pretty awkward when it does that thing where it licks itself with one leg sticking straight up in the air. And frustrating when it refuses any commands until it's hungry.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll bet it gets pretty awkward when it does that thing where it licks itself with one leg sticking straight up in the air .
And frustrating when it refuses any commands until it 's hungry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll bet it gets pretty awkward when it does that thing where it licks itself with one leg sticking straight up in the air.
And frustrating when it refuses any commands until it's hungry.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145724</id>
	<title>Re:A pile of neurons does not a brain make...</title>
	<author>eheien</author>
	<datestamp>1257099660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This raises an interesting point.  Maybe in the brain there's no way to reduce things to meaningful equations.  Evolution didn't really have a set goal in mind, so what you get is a cobbled together mess of pieces that works.  The reason it works is because the system can reform and grow itself in response to new input, not because it has a lot of pieces.</p><p>These large scale simulations are interesting from a neurobiological point of view.  But if you want to build a "thinking computer brain", you might be better off understanding how the human brain grows and changes in response to stimuli, rather than trying to make a static copy at the cellular level.  I have a feeling these supercomputer simulations are not going to be the path to conscious computers, nor even to mind uploading.</p><p>Disclaimer:  I am not a neuroscientist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This raises an interesting point .
Maybe in the brain there 's no way to reduce things to meaningful equations .
Evolution did n't really have a set goal in mind , so what you get is a cobbled together mess of pieces that works .
The reason it works is because the system can reform and grow itself in response to new input , not because it has a lot of pieces.These large scale simulations are interesting from a neurobiological point of view .
But if you want to build a " thinking computer brain " , you might be better off understanding how the human brain grows and changes in response to stimuli , rather than trying to make a static copy at the cellular level .
I have a feeling these supercomputer simulations are not going to be the path to conscious computers , nor even to mind uploading.Disclaimer : I am not a neuroscientist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This raises an interesting point.
Maybe in the brain there's no way to reduce things to meaningful equations.
Evolution didn't really have a set goal in mind, so what you get is a cobbled together mess of pieces that works.
The reason it works is because the system can reform and grow itself in response to new input, not because it has a lot of pieces.These large scale simulations are interesting from a neurobiological point of view.
But if you want to build a "thinking computer brain", you might be better off understanding how the human brain grows and changes in response to stimuli, rather than trying to make a static copy at the cellular level.
I have a feeling these supercomputer simulations are not going to be the path to conscious computers, nor even to mind uploading.Disclaimer:  I am not a neuroscientist.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143840</id>
	<title>At last, vengeance!</title>
	<author>thesandtiger</author>
	<datestamp>1257092280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now I can sleep on top of a computer that is a cat!</p><p>I love my kitties, but they really do find the least helpful times to crawl onto my keyboard/chew through a cable/unplug my machine. Maybe now that there's a hybrid cat/computer it can explain to the organic ones why they need to chill out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now I can sleep on top of a computer that is a cat ! I love my kitties , but they really do find the least helpful times to crawl onto my keyboard/chew through a cable/unplug my machine .
Maybe now that there 's a hybrid cat/computer it can explain to the organic ones why they need to chill out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now I can sleep on top of a computer that is a cat!I love my kitties, but they really do find the least helpful times to crawl onto my keyboard/chew through a cable/unplug my machine.
Maybe now that there's a hybrid cat/computer it can explain to the organic ones why they need to chill out.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144992</id>
	<title>Re:"100,000 times as much as your computer has"</title>
	<author>CopaceticOpus</author>
	<datestamp>1257096540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did nobody here take science in high school?</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy\_and\_precision" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy\_and\_precision</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did nobody here take science in high school ? http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy \ _and \ _precision [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did nobody here take science in high school?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy\_and\_precision [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30147394</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>MiniMike</author>
	<datestamp>1257106860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna</p></div><p>
sounds like some developers I know...</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Every flying vertebrate known to science turned forelimbs into wings and flap them. Is it the most efficient way to fly?</p></div><p>
Don't forget the invertebrates- 6+ legs <i>and</i> wings, across many more species than birds.  Wouldn't it be interesting if the next Boeing design
is based on the flying cockroach?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna sounds like some developers I know...Every flying vertebrate known to science turned forelimbs into wings and flap them .
Is it the most efficient way to fly ?
Do n't forget the invertebrates- 6 + legs and wings , across many more species than birds .
Would n't it be interesting if the next Boeing design is based on the flying cockroach ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna
sounds like some developers I know...Every flying vertebrate known to science turned forelimbs into wings and flap them.
Is it the most efficient way to fly?
Don't forget the invertebrates- 6+ legs and wings, across many more species than birds.
Wouldn't it be interesting if the next Boeing design
is based on the flying cockroach?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143322</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143534</id>
	<title>when the human brain is simulated...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257090960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>at 1:1 speed, you will be redundant.</p><p>And the simulated will not have rights, they will be tweaked to perform as slaves.</p><p>And you will be out of a job.</p><p>Technology advances to obsolete progressively less menial tasks.</p><p>Technology advances until \_every\_ human is obsolete.</p><p>Remember this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>at 1 : 1 speed , you will be redundant.And the simulated will not have rights , they will be tweaked to perform as slaves.And you will be out of a job.Technology advances to obsolete progressively less menial tasks.Technology advances until \ _every \ _ human is obsolete.Remember this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>at 1:1 speed, you will be redundant.And the simulated will not have rights, they will be tweaked to perform as slaves.And you will be out of a job.Technology advances to obsolete progressively less menial tasks.Technology advances until \_every\_ human is obsolete.Remember this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145300</id>
	<title>Re:"100,000 times as much as your computer has"</title>
	<author>Just Some Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1257097860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And in today's lesson: "significant digits" and "approximation".</p><p>Tomorrow we'll advance to "orders of magnitude".</p><p>The article was right. It has about 100,000 times more RAM than your PC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And in today 's lesson : " significant digits " and " approximation " .Tomorrow we 'll advance to " orders of magnitude " .The article was right .
It has about 100,000 times more RAM than your PC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And in today's lesson: "significant digits" and "approximation".Tomorrow we'll advance to "orders of magnitude".The article was right.
It has about 100,000 times more RAM than your PC.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143152</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143356</id>
	<title>Primitive explanation</title>
	<author>Chameleon Man</author>
	<datestamp>1257090360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm going to go ahead and judge a book by it's cover. Given how primitive the summary is, I have doubts that this "supercomputer" matches a kitty's cerebral cortex 1-to-1. Having the "power" is one thing, but the learning aspect is another.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm going to go ahead and judge a book by it 's cover .
Given how primitive the summary is , I have doubts that this " supercomputer " matches a kitty 's cerebral cortex 1-to-1 .
Having the " power " is one thing , but the learning aspect is another .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm going to go ahead and judge a book by it's cover.
Given how primitive the summary is, I have doubts that this "supercomputer" matches a kitty's cerebral cortex 1-to-1.
Having the "power" is one thing, but the learning aspect is another.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144082</id>
	<title>18,000 times, not 100,000 times</title>
	<author>AliasMarlowe</author>
	<datestamp>1257093060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My PCs at home have 8GB of RAM each. Now 144TB is a lot more, but <b>only</b> by 18,000 times.<br>
When they boot that sucker, how long does the memory check take?</htmltext>
<tokenext>My PCs at home have 8GB of RAM each .
Now 144TB is a lot more , but only by 18,000 times .
When they boot that sucker , how long does the memory check take ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My PCs at home have 8GB of RAM each.
Now 144TB is a lot more, but only by 18,000 times.
When they boot that sucker, how long does the memory check take?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143152</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144730</id>
	<title>i&rsquo;d love to read this</title>
	<author>Huluvu</author>
	<datestamp>1257095520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>in an actual nerd-version of that article</htmltext>
<tokenext>in an actual nerd-version of that article</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in an actual nerd-version of that article</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30149446</id>
	<title>Re:They are a model organism for neuroscience</title>
	<author>steelfood</author>
	<datestamp>1257073860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't resist the urge to ask: How many libraries of congress would fit into the computer, and how many cat brains are in a human brain?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't resist the urge to ask : How many libraries of congress would fit into the computer , and how many cat brains are in a human brain ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't resist the urge to ask: How many libraries of congress would fit into the computer, and how many cat brains are in a human brain?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143538</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146274</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>happyjack27</author>
	<datestamp>1257101760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was had a foot on my head, but nature took it away<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was had a foot on my head , but nature took it away : ( .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was had a foot on my head, but nature took it away :(.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143322</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145390</id>
	<title>Re:news for nerds</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257098220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I also wonder, what number of processors (obviously not one or two) was common in the past?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I also wonder , what number of processors ( obviously not one or two ) was common in the past ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also wonder, what number of processors (obviously not one or two) was common in the past?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143136</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143396</id>
	<title>Cat mentaity</title>
	<author>spooje</author>
	<datestamp>1257090480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>"A computer with the power of a human brain is not yet near. But this week researchers from IBM Corp. are reporting that they've simulated a cat's cerebral cortex, the thinking part of the brain, using a massive supercomputer."</i> </p><p>So it basically puts itself in sleep mode 20 hours a day and the other 4 hours it spends ignoring the user?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" A computer with the power of a human brain is not yet near .
But this week researchers from IBM Corp. are reporting that they 've simulated a cat 's cerebral cortex , the thinking part of the brain , using a massive supercomputer .
" So it basically puts itself in sleep mode 20 hours a day and the other 4 hours it spends ignoring the user ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "A computer with the power of a human brain is not yet near.
But this week researchers from IBM Corp. are reporting that they've simulated a cat's cerebral cortex, the thinking part of the brain, using a massive supercomputer.
" So it basically puts itself in sleep mode 20 hours a day and the other 4 hours it spends ignoring the user?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144058</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>TheKidWho</author>
	<datestamp>1257092940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He is not complaining that the dish is half empty, he is complaining because the dish is too big.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He is not complaining that the dish is half empty , he is complaining because the dish is too big .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He is not complaining that the dish is half empty, he is complaining because the dish is too big.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30146790</id>
	<title>Ob. comment</title>
	<author>zorro-z</author>
	<datestamp>1257103980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I, for one, welcome our cybernetic feline overlords.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I , for one , welcome our cybernetic feline overlords .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I, for one, welcome our cybernetic feline overlords.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144136</id>
	<title>Re:news for nerds</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257093240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also, with 12GB system memory this machine has a lot less than 100,000 times that amount...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , with 12GB system memory this machine has a lot less than 100,000 times that amount.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, with 12GB system memory this machine has a lot less than 100,000 times that amount...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143554</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143148</id>
	<title>Well I hope</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257089700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the first thing they teach it is to stop scratching my couch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the first thing they teach it is to stop scratching my couch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the first thing they teach it is to stop scratching my couch.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144192</id>
	<title>A simulated cat-brain? sounds like an Anime...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257093480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ha! <a href="http://www.absoluteanime.com/cat\_girl\_nuku\_nuku/" title="absoluteanime.com" rel="nofollow">it is an anime</a> [absoluteanime.com]: "What do you get when you cross the brain of a cat with an android's body?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ha !
it is an anime [ absoluteanime.com ] : " What do you get when you cross the brain of a cat with an android 's body ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ha!
it is an anime [absoluteanime.com]: "What do you get when you cross the brain of a cat with an android's body?
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143428</id>
	<title>Re:"100,000 times as much as your computer has"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257090540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><em>114 terabytes = 116 736 gigabytes</em><br>No it doesn't, but I'm guessing they meant 114 tebibytes anyway, so you're forgiven.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>114 terabytes = 116 736 gigabytesNo it does n't , but I 'm guessing they meant 114 tebibytes anyway , so you 're forgiven .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>114 terabytes = 116 736 gigabytesNo it doesn't, but I'm guessing they meant 114 tebibytes anyway, so you're forgiven.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143152</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30147430</id>
	<title>Re:A pile of neurons does not a brain make...</title>
	<author>Citizen of Earth</author>
	<datestamp>1257107040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Indeed, it's not the number of neurons but how they are connected that's important.  The network <b>is</b> the computer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed , it 's not the number of neurons but how they are connected that 's important .
The network is the computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed, it's not the number of neurons but how they are connected that's important.
The network is the computer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143568</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30148230</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>joh</author>
	<datestamp>1257068100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna.</p> </div><p>On the other hand, give us as long as evolution for the cat and we will probably create something more cunning and evil than a cat, running on raw sunlight.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna .
On the other hand , give us as long as evolution for the cat and we will probably create something more cunning and evil than a cat , running on raw sunlight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna.
On the other hand, give us as long as evolution for the cat and we will probably create something more cunning and evil than a cat, running on raw sunlight.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143322</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30147106</id>
	<title>Re:How hard is it to simulate a cat's brain on 1 c</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257105360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>logic lacks ability to wake up *to* the sound of can opener.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>logic lacks ability to wake up * to * the sound of can opener .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>logic lacks ability to wake up *to* the sound of can opener.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143144</id>
	<title>Cool...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257089700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does it keep wanting cheezburgerz all the time?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it keep wanting cheezburgerz all the time ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it keep wanting cheezburgerz all the time?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143414</id>
	<title>First there was "Deep Thought"</title>
	<author>Average\_Joe\_Sixpack</author>
	<datestamp>1257090540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>then "Deep Thought II"<br>then "Deep Blue"<br>next "Deep Pussy"??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>then " Deep Thought II " then " Deep Blue " next " Deep Pussy " ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>then "Deep Thought II"then "Deep Blue"next "Deep Pussy"?
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145604</id>
	<title>I for one. ..</title>
	<author>darth\_borehd</author>
	<datestamp>1257098940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>welcome our new cat supercomputer overlords!</htmltext>
<tokenext>welcome our new cat supercomputer overlords !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>welcome our new cat supercomputer overlords!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145158</id>
	<title>Re:How hard is it to simulate a cat's brain on 1 c</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257097260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My simulator just ignores all user input and pees on the rug behind the couch twice a day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My simulator just ignores all user input and pees on the rug behind the couch twice a day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My simulator just ignores all user input and pees on the rug behind the couch twice a day.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144950</id>
	<title>On a related note...</title>
	<author>citab</author>
	<datestamp>1257096420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Other projects include:</p><p>Homer Simpson Brain: Pentium 3, 128mb memory (70\% cpu usage);</p><p>George W Bush Brain: Palm Pilot (10\% cpu usage)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Other projects include : Homer Simpson Brain : Pentium 3 , 128mb memory ( 70 \ % cpu usage ) ; George W Bush Brain : Palm Pilot ( 10 \ % cpu usage )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Other projects include:Homer Simpson Brain: Pentium 3, 128mb memory (70\% cpu usage);George W Bush Brain: Palm Pilot (10\% cpu usage)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144362</id>
	<title>And so the Skynet is born...</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1257094080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, that's the true problem this development might cause; the only reason why my 8 month old cat hasn't killed and eaten me is because she haven't figured out how to do that...yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , that 's the true problem this development might cause ; the only reason why my 8 month old cat has n't killed and eaten me is because she have n't figured out how to do that...yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, that's the true problem this development might cause; the only reason why my 8 month old cat hasn't killed and eaten me is because she haven't figured out how to do that...yet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143202</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144292</id>
	<title>I bet...</title>
	<author>TrebleJunkie</author>
	<datestamp>1257093900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...that it ignores every command they try to give it, looks at them with disdain and does nothing but try to sit on its own keyboard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...that it ignores every command they try to give it , looks at them with disdain and does nothing but try to sit on its own keyboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...that it ignores every command they try to give it, looks at them with disdain and does nothing but try to sit on its own keyboard.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30171048</id>
	<title>Re:First there was "Deep Thought"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258732440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nah, youre getting the context wrong..  Deep blue was mean as a metaphor of something huge by comparing it with the depths of an ocean, so by adding "deep" to "blue" you'll get that effect over.</p><p>- In this case, as it's a cat brain simulator, Pussycat, or Pussy would fit, you could go then with "big" and "Pussy" or, as this is a pretty incredible machine, add "hairy" as well, for a final metaphor/nickname: Big Hairy Pussy which should get across how grand this is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nah , youre getting the context wrong.. Deep blue was mean as a metaphor of something huge by comparing it with the depths of an ocean , so by adding " deep " to " blue " you 'll get that effect over.- In this case , as it 's a cat brain simulator , Pussycat , or Pussy would fit , you could go then with " big " and " Pussy " or , as this is a pretty incredible machine , add " hairy " as well , for a final metaphor/nickname : Big Hairy Pussy which should get across how grand this is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nah, youre getting the context wrong..  Deep blue was mean as a metaphor of something huge by comparing it with the depths of an ocean, so by adding "deep" to "blue" you'll get that effect over.- In this case, as it's a cat brain simulator, Pussycat, or Pussy would fit, you could go then with "big" and "Pussy" or, as this is a pretty incredible machine, add "hairy" as well, for a final metaphor/nickname: Big Hairy Pussy which should get across how grand this is.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144236</id>
	<title>But....</title>
	<author>xmason</author>
	<datestamp>1257093660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does it run Linux?</p><p>Ba-dump-bump!</p><p>(ducks from flying shoes)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it run Linux ? Ba-dump-bump !
( ducks from flying shoes )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it run Linux?Ba-dump-bump!
(ducks from flying shoes)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145992</id>
	<title>Re:Why cats?</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1257100620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dogs love us. Hamsters universally run away. But when simulating a cat...you activelly get to know how to deal with an artificial mind that hates you.</p><p>That will get handy at the Skynet stage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dogs love us .
Hamsters universally run away .
But when simulating a cat...you activelly get to know how to deal with an artificial mind that hates you.That will get handy at the Skynet stage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dogs love us.
Hamsters universally run away.
But when simulating a cat...you activelly get to know how to deal with an artificial mind that hates you.That will get handy at the Skynet stage.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143212</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144796</id>
	<title>Testing for confirmation?</title>
	<author>bokmann</author>
	<datestamp>1257095820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How do you *test* something like this?  I mean, you build all this hardware write a bunch of code, and I guess you can see activity that might look like an EEG, but how do you know you haven't just created some elaborate noisy feedback system?  How do you know you haven't created an autistic mouse?  Short of giving it a simulated DOOM environment to run around in and chase laser pointers, what actually is it *doing* anyway?</p><p>I never thought unit testing would verge on philosophical questions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How do you * test * something like this ?
I mean , you build all this hardware write a bunch of code , and I guess you can see activity that might look like an EEG , but how do you know you have n't just created some elaborate noisy feedback system ?
How do you know you have n't created an autistic mouse ?
Short of giving it a simulated DOOM environment to run around in and chase laser pointers , what actually is it * doing * anyway ? I never thought unit testing would verge on philosophical questions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do you *test* something like this?
I mean, you build all this hardware write a bunch of code, and I guess you can see activity that might look like an EEG, but how do you know you haven't just created some elaborate noisy feedback system?
How do you know you haven't created an autistic mouse?
Short of giving it a simulated DOOM environment to run around in and chase laser pointers, what actually is it *doing* anyway?I never thought unit testing would verge on philosophical questions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30148750</id>
	<title>Re:First there was "Deep Thought"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257070380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Aren't they all just remakes of the very first one -  "Deep Throat" ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are n't they all just remakes of the very first one - " Deep Throat " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aren't they all just remakes of the very first one -  "Deep Throat" ?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143258</id>
	<title>problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257090060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the problem, IMO, for machines to tackle is that humans and animals both have a "will to exist"...all subsequent thoughts and actions in their respective brains derive from this from, giving the brain a purpose by directing the body to perform actions that satisfy it.</p><p>what equivalent purpose is there for a machine to exist? could such a purpose ever be simulated? does such a purpose need to have a biological characteristic in order for it to be valid? i think there needs to be more philosophical work done in the field of AI before another useless terabyte is added.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the problem , IMO , for machines to tackle is that humans and animals both have a " will to exist " ...all subsequent thoughts and actions in their respective brains derive from this from , giving the brain a purpose by directing the body to perform actions that satisfy it.what equivalent purpose is there for a machine to exist ?
could such a purpose ever be simulated ?
does such a purpose need to have a biological characteristic in order for it to be valid ?
i think there needs to be more philosophical work done in the field of AI before another useless terabyte is added .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the problem, IMO, for machines to tackle is that humans and animals both have a "will to exist"...all subsequent thoughts and actions in their respective brains derive from this from, giving the brain a purpose by directing the body to perform actions that satisfy it.what equivalent purpose is there for a machine to exist?
could such a purpose ever be simulated?
does such a purpose need to have a biological characteristic in order for it to be valid?
i think there needs to be more philosophical work done in the field of AI before another useless terabyte is added.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143846</id>
	<title>Preventing bugs</title>
	<author>autophile</author>
	<datestamp>1257092280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I heard that IBM installed PawSense 2.0, which blocks output when "cat-like computation detected".</htmltext>
<tokenext>I heard that IBM installed PawSense 2.0 , which blocks output when " cat-like computation detected " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I heard that IBM installed PawSense 2.0, which blocks output when "cat-like computation detected".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145004</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>KraftDinner</author>
	<datestamp>1257096600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna.</p></div><p>Nature can do it because it has had hundreds of millions of years of evolution to get to this point.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna.Nature can do it because it has had hundreds of millions of years of evolution to get to this point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It amazes me how much hardware and power has to be thrown at the problem to solve it while nature can create a self-organizing machine that only requires material input of raw mice and lasagna.Nature can do it because it has had hundreds of millions of years of evolution to get to this point.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143322</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143526</id>
	<title>The Paper</title>
	<author>glwtta</author>
	<datestamp>1257090960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here's the actual <a href="http://www.modha.org/C2S2/2009/11182009/content/SC09\_TheCatIsOutofTheBag.pdf" title="modha.org">paper</a> [modha.org] (pdf).
<br> <br>
Although, of course, posting the piece of pap that explains how many processors my machine has makes so much more sense.
<br> <br>
Wasn't Slashdot supposed to be for a semi-technical audience?  Hell, even a semi-literate one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's the actual paper [ modha.org ] ( pdf ) .
Although , of course , posting the piece of pap that explains how many processors my machine has makes so much more sense .
Was n't Slashdot supposed to be for a semi-technical audience ?
Hell , even a semi-literate one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's the actual paper [modha.org] (pdf).
Although, of course, posting the piece of pap that explains how many processors my machine has makes so much more sense.
Wasn't Slashdot supposed to be for a semi-technical audience?
Hell, even a semi-literate one.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145932</id>
	<title>Re:Cool...</title>
	<author>Tybalt\_Capulet</author>
	<datestamp>1257100380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I heard that it needs 27 hours of downtime a day in order to do calculations properly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I heard that it needs 27 hours of downtime a day in order to do calculations properly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I heard that it needs 27 hours of downtime a day in order to do calculations properly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143144</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143348</id>
	<title>Re:Why cats?</title>
	<author>UnknowingFool</author>
	<datestamp>1257090360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't know about hamsters but I can answer for dogs.  As this <a href="http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/Humor/otherhumor/dog\_cat\_diary.htm" title="goodeatsfanpage.com">post</a> [goodeatsfanpage.com] clearly demonstrates, there won't much for scientists to do with a dog's thoughts.  The dog's diary however is incomplete as it left off the parts where the dog would obviously --SQUIRREL!!-- meander into other thoughts.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know about hamsters but I can answer for dogs .
As this post [ goodeatsfanpage.com ] clearly demonstrates , there wo n't much for scientists to do with a dog 's thoughts .
The dog 's diary however is incomplete as it left off the parts where the dog would obviously --SQUIRREL !
! -- meander into other thoughts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know about hamsters but I can answer for dogs.
As this post [goodeatsfanpage.com] clearly demonstrates, there won't much for scientists to do with a dog's thoughts.
The dog's diary however is incomplete as it left off the parts where the dog would obviously --SQUIRREL!
!-- meander into other thoughts.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143212</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30149918</id>
	<title>Re:First there was "Deep Thought"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257075780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think I've seen that video!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think I 've seen that video !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think I've seen that video!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143696</id>
	<title>Re:"100,000 times as much as your computer has"</title>
	<author>killmenow</author>
	<datestamp>1257091620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to my math:</p><p>1TByte = 1024 GBytes</p><p>1GByte = 1024 MBytes</p><p>1MByte = 1024 KBytes</p><p>1KByte = 1024 Bytes</p><p>so 114 TB = 1024 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024 * 114 = 1,243,443,256,646,464 bytes</p><p>My machine has 8 GBytes of RAM in it which is (1024 * 1024 * 1024 * 8) 8,589,934,592 bytes</p><p>So that machine has ~ 144,755.846896 times more memory than mine.</p><p>Or I'm missing something but hey, I was told there would be no math.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to my math : 1TByte = 1024 GBytes1GByte = 1024 MBytes1MByte = 1024 KBytes1KByte = 1024 Bytesso 114 TB = 1024 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024 * 114 = 1,243,443,256,646,464 bytesMy machine has 8 GBytes of RAM in it which is ( 1024 * 1024 * 1024 * 8 ) 8,589,934,592 bytesSo that machine has ~ 144,755.846896 times more memory than mine.Or I 'm missing something but hey , I was told there would be no math .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to my math:1TByte = 1024 GBytes1GByte = 1024 MBytes1MByte = 1024 KBytes1KByte = 1024 Bytesso 114 TB = 1024 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024 * 114 = 1,243,443,256,646,464 bytesMy machine has 8 GBytes of RAM in it which is (1024 * 1024 * 1024 * 8) 8,589,934,592 bytesSo that machine has ~ 144,755.846896 times more memory than mine.Or I'm missing something but hey, I was told there would be no math.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143152</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144496</id>
	<title>Cats are pretty inexpensive</title>
	<author>DarkOx</author>
	<datestamp>1257094620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Provide you don't need a specific bread cats don't cost much.  Now the trick is getting all those cats to sit still and not fight with each other.  I am imagining a Beowulf cluster of cats.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Provide you do n't need a specific bread cats do n't cost much .
Now the trick is getting all those cats to sit still and not fight with each other .
I am imagining a Beowulf cluster of cats .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Provide you don't need a specific bread cats don't cost much.
Now the trick is getting all those cats to sit still and not fight with each other.
I am imagining a Beowulf cluster of cats.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144574</id>
	<title>Simulating a thinking brain thinking...</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1257094920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...will require far more computing power than would thinking.  It's still very useful, though, because it allows us to study thinking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...will require far more computing power than would thinking .
It 's still very useful , though , because it allows us to study thinking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...will require far more computing power than would thinking.
It's still very useful, though, because it allows us to study thinking.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144428</id>
	<title>Re:news for nerds</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1257094380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually most maybe but almost all netbooks have a single core CPU. So yes I would say that most modern PCs have one or two CPUs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually most maybe but almost all netbooks have a single core CPU .
So yes I would say that most modern PCs have one or two CPUs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually most maybe but almost all netbooks have a single core CPU.
So yes I would say that most modern PCs have one or two CPUs.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143554</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143866</id>
	<title>Re:hmmmm</title>
	<author>vertinox</author>
	<datestamp>1257092340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>They've spent millions teaching a computer how to destroy furnature and shit in your shoes.</i></p><p>At least computers don't get cat hair on all your clothes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 've spent millions teaching a computer how to destroy furnature and shit in your shoes.At least computers do n't get cat hair on all your clothes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They've spent millions teaching a computer how to destroy furnature and shit in your shoes.At least computers don't get cat hair on all your clothes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143202</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145314</id>
	<title>nearly one processor</title>
	<author>javalizard</author>
	<datestamp>1257097860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>And I thought a PC had 1/4 of a processor (at least the way Windows runs on it)</htmltext>
<tokenext>And I thought a PC had 1/4 of a processor ( at least the way Windows runs on it )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I thought a PC had 1/4 of a processor (at least the way Windows runs on it)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143136</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30149510</id>
	<title>Re:The Paper</title>
	<author>steelfood</author>
	<datestamp>1257074160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wasn't Slashdot supposed to be for a semi-technical audience?</p></div><p>Yeah. This article falls into the other half.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Was n't Slashdot supposed to be for a semi-technical audience ? Yeah .
This article falls into the other half .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wasn't Slashdot supposed to be for a semi-technical audience?Yeah.
This article falls into the other half.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143526</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145394</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>Tetsujin</author>
	<datestamp>1257098220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We see evolution taking away limbs but never adding new ones.</p></div><p>Well, I don't know about <em>limbs</em> - but I did have a cat with extra toes...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We see evolution taking away limbs but never adding new ones.Well , I do n't know about limbs - but I did have a cat with extra toes.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We see evolution taking away limbs but never adding new ones.Well, I don't know about limbs - but I did have a cat with extra toes...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143322</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145272</id>
	<title>Re:hmmmm</title>
	<author>Anonymusing</author>
	<datestamp>1257097740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even worse, you don't own a cat. It owns you, and it's pissed about it. Every cat owner knows this.  Now we know where Skynet will get its desire to rule the world.
</p><p>They should have simulated a canine brain. Then the robots would be begging to make us happy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even worse , you do n't own a cat .
It owns you , and it 's pissed about it .
Every cat owner knows this .
Now we know where Skynet will get its desire to rule the world .
They should have simulated a canine brain .
Then the robots would be begging to make us happy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even worse, you don't own a cat.
It owns you, and it's pissed about it.
Every cat owner knows this.
Now we know where Skynet will get its desire to rule the world.
They should have simulated a canine brain.
Then the robots would be begging to make us happy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143202</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144344</id>
	<title>Re:Cool...</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1257094020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I doubt IBM is up on Internet memes enough to get that one. I'd wager they're still laughing at the Ally McBeal dancing baby animation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt IBM is up on Internet memes enough to get that one .
I 'd wager they 're still laughing at the Ally McBeal dancing baby animation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt IBM is up on Internet memes enough to get that one.
I'd wager they're still laughing at the Ally McBeal dancing baby animation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143144</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143712</id>
	<title>asvfgko90]\</title>
	<author>The Wookie</author>
	<datestamp>1257091680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I assume that it will walk all over its own keyboard now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I assume that it will walk all over its own keyboard now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I assume that it will walk all over its own keyboard now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145380</id>
	<title>There's an easier way to do it</title>
	<author>TheModelEskimo</author>
	<datestamp>1257098160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...open a can of tuna.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...open a can of tuna .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...open a can of tuna.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145310</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257097860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"If research leads to the development of successful new modeling techniques that can carry out new and better forms of information processing, no one will really care if they do not exactly mimic the functionality of the human brain," concludes Hall. "I honestly doubt you'll find too many people today who are upset that the wings on an aircraft do not flap like those of a bird or that a submarine does not swim exactly like a fish."</p></div><p>I disagree with Hall.  Computer scientists won't care if thinking machines mimic human brains, but biologists and doctors will.  Brains remain one of the biggest biological mysteries.  Replicating them would be a huge step towards understanding them, and understanding brains would be of great benefit for the treatment of psychological diseases, malformed brains, nerve damage, etc.  Hell, we may even be able to develop prothetics for victims of stroke or brain damage one day, but not without the foundations of this type of research.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" If research leads to the development of successful new modeling techniques that can carry out new and better forms of information processing , no one will really care if they do not exactly mimic the functionality of the human brain , " concludes Hall .
" I honestly doubt you 'll find too many people today who are upset that the wings on an aircraft do not flap like those of a bird or that a submarine does not swim exactly like a fish .
" I disagree with Hall .
Computer scientists wo n't care if thinking machines mimic human brains , but biologists and doctors will .
Brains remain one of the biggest biological mysteries .
Replicating them would be a huge step towards understanding them , and understanding brains would be of great benefit for the treatment of psychological diseases , malformed brains , nerve damage , etc .
Hell , we may even be able to develop prothetics for victims of stroke or brain damage one day , but not without the foundations of this type of research .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"If research leads to the development of successful new modeling techniques that can carry out new and better forms of information processing, no one will really care if they do not exactly mimic the functionality of the human brain," concludes Hall.
"I honestly doubt you'll find too many people today who are upset that the wings on an aircraft do not flap like those of a bird or that a submarine does not swim exactly like a fish.
"I disagree with Hall.
Computer scientists won't care if thinking machines mimic human brains, but biologists and doctors will.
Brains remain one of the biggest biological mysteries.
Replicating them would be a huge step towards understanding them, and understanding brains would be of great benefit for the treatment of psychological diseases, malformed brains, nerve damage, etc.
Hell, we may even be able to develop prothetics for victims of stroke or brain damage one day, but not without the foundations of this type of research.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144114</id>
	<title>Let's run this in reverse.</title>
	<author>ettlz</author>
	<datestamp>1257093180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OK, so it takes nigh-on 150,000 processors to simulate a moggie brain at 1/100th of the usual speed. So now I have a handle on what such a brain can pull. See, I have some physics problems to solve, and there's the stray cat that hangs around outside my flat...</htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , so it takes nigh-on 150,000 processors to simulate a moggie brain at 1/100th of the usual speed .
So now I have a handle on what such a brain can pull .
See , I have some physics problems to solve , and there 's the stray cat that hangs around outside my flat.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, so it takes nigh-on 150,000 processors to simulate a moggie brain at 1/100th of the usual speed.
So now I have a handle on what such a brain can pull.
See, I have some physics problems to solve, and there's the stray cat that hangs around outside my flat...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144330</id>
	<title>people have been claiming this for 50 years or mor</title>
	<author>peter303</author>
	<datestamp>1257094020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Every "revolutionary" new computer design has been called the next step to an electronic brain: the original eniacs in the 1940s, widrows neural networks in the 1960s, Deep Blue chess computer in the 1980s and so on.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Every " revolutionary " new computer design has been called the next step to an electronic brain : the original eniacs in the 1940s , widrows neural networks in the 1960s , Deep Blue chess computer in the 1980s and so on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every "revolutionary" new computer design has been called the next step to an electronic brain: the original eniacs in the 1940s, widrows neural networks in the 1960s, Deep Blue chess computer in the 1980s and so on.</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143568</id>
	<title>A pile of neurons does not a brain make...</title>
	<author>swm</author>
	<datestamp>1257091140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>From TFA, it doesn't sound like they simulated the cerebral cortex of a cat.<br>
It sounds like they simulated a neural net with a comparable number of neurons.<br>
Not the same thing.
<p>
A few days ago, Slashdot ran <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/11/13/1545245" title="slashdot.org">The Math of a Fly's Eye May Prove Useful</a> [slashdot.org].</p><p>
Those guys
</p><ul>
<li>reverse engineered the yaw motion detector in a fly brain</li>
<li>reduced the neural network to a set of 5 coupled, non-linear equations</li>
<li>implemented the equations on a computer</li>
<li>ran their implementation against an animated scene</li>
<li>observed that the equations correctly and robustly detect yaw</li>
</ul><p>
and they <strong>still</strong> don't understand how the equations actually work.
</p><p>
That's where we are with brain simulation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA , it does n't sound like they simulated the cerebral cortex of a cat .
It sounds like they simulated a neural net with a comparable number of neurons .
Not the same thing .
A few days ago , Slashdot ran The Math of a Fly 's Eye May Prove Useful [ slashdot.org ] .
Those guys reverse engineered the yaw motion detector in a fly brain reduced the neural network to a set of 5 coupled , non-linear equations implemented the equations on a computer ran their implementation against an animated scene observed that the equations correctly and robustly detect yaw and they still do n't understand how the equations actually work .
That 's where we are with brain simulation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA, it doesn't sound like they simulated the cerebral cortex of a cat.
It sounds like they simulated a neural net with a comparable number of neurons.
Not the same thing.
A few days ago, Slashdot ran The Math of a Fly's Eye May Prove Useful [slashdot.org].
Those guys

reverse engineered the yaw motion detector in a fly brain
reduced the neural network to a set of 5 coupled, non-linear equations
implemented the equations on a computer
ran their implementation against an animated scene
observed that the equations correctly and robustly detect yaw

and they still don't understand how the equations actually work.
That's where we are with brain simulation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145894</id>
	<title>Re:Well I hope</title>
	<author>wirah</author>
	<datestamp>1257100260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I read this as 'the first thing they teach it is to stop scratching my crotch.'</htmltext>
<tokenext>I read this as 'the first thing they teach it is to stop scratching my crotch .
'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read this as 'the first thing they teach it is to stop scratching my crotch.
'</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143148</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144434</id>
	<title>Re:meat versus silicon and metal</title>
	<author>d34dluk3</author>
	<datestamp>1257094380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> We see evolution taking away limbs but never adding new ones.</p></div><p>Given that life started as something resembling an amoeba, I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We see evolution taking away limbs but never adding new ones.Given that life started as something resembling an amoeba , I 'm not sure how you came to this conclusion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> We see evolution taking away limbs but never adding new ones.Given that life started as something resembling an amoeba, I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144444</id>
	<title>Re:"100,000 times as much as your computer has"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257094440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They said 144, not 114.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They said 144 , not 114 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They said 144, not 114.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143152</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144228</id>
	<title>Schrodinger's Cat-puter</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257093600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If we place the powered-on computer in a sealed box filled with water, is the system still alive or is it dead?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If we place the powered-on computer in a sealed box filled with water , is the system still alive or is it dead ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we place the powered-on computer in a sealed box filled with water, is the system still alive or is it dead?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144378</id>
	<title>Re:hmmmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257094200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>.Net for the win!</p><p>----</p><p>while(true){<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Console.WriteLine("Mrow");<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Nutrients n = Console.ReadLine("Chicken and Rice formula for kittens");<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; n.Digest();<nobr> <wbr></nobr>//creates a PoopSession member<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; File.WriteAllBytes(poopSession.ToArray());<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Thread.Sleep(20 hours of the day);<br>}</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.Net for the win ! ----while ( true ) {       Console.WriteLine ( " Mrow " ) ;       Nutrients n = Console.ReadLine ( " Chicken and Rice formula for kittens " ) ;                           n.Digest ( ) ; //creates a PoopSession member       File.WriteAllBytes ( poopSession.ToArray ( ) ) ;       Thread.Sleep ( 20 hours of the day ) ; }</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.Net for the win!----while(true){
      Console.WriteLine("Mrow");
      Nutrients n = Console.ReadLine("Chicken and Rice formula for kittens");
                          n.Digest(); //creates a PoopSession member
      File.WriteAllBytes(poopSession.ToArray());
      Thread.Sleep(20 hours of the day);}</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143202</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143962</id>
	<title>First one... no friends</title>
	<author>cpscotti</author>
	<datestamp>1257092640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That is a damn lonely and fat cat!</htmltext>
<tokenext>That is a damn lonely and fat cat !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is a damn lonely and fat cat!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144908</id>
	<title>Re:How hard is it to simulate a cat's brain on 1 c</title>
	<author>Lemming Mark</author>
	<datestamp>1257096240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I used to do this to my friends - when I was at highschool I used to write conversational simulators of people I knew using QBASIC.  Throw in a few catchphrases and favourite memes and it is remarkably easy to catch the essence of a conversation with someone you know, especially if they're a geek.  If they're rude, it's even easier, since you don't have to have such a coherent conversation.  I've known people who wouldn't pass the Turing Test in normal conversation.</p><p>Somebody should try doing this for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... well, anyone famous really.  The French government, Silvio Berlusconi, Theo de Raadt, Linus Torvalds<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... all good targets, I suspect!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to do this to my friends - when I was at highschool I used to write conversational simulators of people I knew using QBASIC .
Throw in a few catchphrases and favourite memes and it is remarkably easy to catch the essence of a conversation with someone you know , especially if they 're a geek .
If they 're rude , it 's even easier , since you do n't have to have such a coherent conversation .
I 've known people who would n't pass the Turing Test in normal conversation.Somebody should try doing this for ... well , anyone famous really .
The French government , Silvio Berlusconi , Theo de Raadt , Linus Torvalds ... all good targets , I suspect !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to do this to my friends - when I was at highschool I used to write conversational simulators of people I knew using QBASIC.
Throw in a few catchphrases and favourite memes and it is remarkably easy to catch the essence of a conversation with someone you know, especially if they're a geek.
If they're rude, it's even easier, since you don't have to have such a coherent conversation.
I've known people who wouldn't pass the Turing Test in normal conversation.Somebody should try doing this for ... well, anyone famous really.
The French government, Silvio Berlusconi, Theo de Raadt, Linus Torvalds ... all good targets, I suspect!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144332</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30145490</id>
	<title>Oh, cool. When does it take CEO@IBM?</title>
	<author>WindBourne</author>
	<datestamp>1257098520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This system is already brighter than Palmisano and his staff combined. Probably do a whole lot less damage to the company.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This system is already brighter than Palmisano and his staff combined .
Probably do a whole lot less damage to the company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This system is already brighter than Palmisano and his staff combined.
Probably do a whole lot less damage to the company.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30144872</id>
	<title>Re:Cool...</title>
	<author>waveformwafflehouse</author>
	<datestamp>1257096060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, it has only pussy on its mind.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , it has only pussy on its mind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, it has only pussy on its mind.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_18_1423238.30143144</parent>
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