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	<title>AU Senator Calls Scientology a "Criminal Organization"</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1258476960000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader passes along news that an Australian senator, Nick Xenophon, has <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/18/2745765.htm">denounced the Church of Scientology as "a criminal organization"</a> from the floor of Parliament. <i>"Senator Xenophon used a speech in Parliament last night to raise allegations of widespread criminal conduct within the church, saying he had received letters from former followers detailing claims of abuse, false imprisonment, and forced abortion. He says he has passed on the letters to the police and is calling for a Senate inquiry into the religion and its tax-exempt status."</i> It wasn't that long ago that the CoS was <a href="//yro.slashdot.org/story/09/09/07/0520225/Church-of-Scientology-Proposes-Net-Censorship-In-Australia">calling for Net censorship in Australia</a>; a month later the organization was <a href="//yro.slashdot.org/story/09/10/27/1731221/French-Branch-of-Scientology-Is-Convicted-of-Fraud">convicted of fraud</a> in France.</htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader passes along news that an Australian senator , Nick Xenophon , has denounced the Church of Scientology as " a criminal organization " from the floor of Parliament .
" Senator Xenophon used a speech in Parliament last night to raise allegations of widespread criminal conduct within the church , saying he had received letters from former followers detailing claims of abuse , false imprisonment , and forced abortion .
He says he has passed on the letters to the police and is calling for a Senate inquiry into the religion and its tax-exempt status .
" It was n't that long ago that the CoS was calling for Net censorship in Australia ; a month later the organization was convicted of fraud in France .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader passes along news that an Australian senator, Nick Xenophon, has denounced the Church of Scientology as "a criminal organization" from the floor of Parliament.
"Senator Xenophon used a speech in Parliament last night to raise allegations of widespread criminal conduct within the church, saying he had received letters from former followers detailing claims of abuse, false imprisonment, and forced abortion.
He says he has passed on the letters to the police and is calling for a Senate inquiry into the religion and its tax-exempt status.
" It wasn't that long ago that the CoS was calling for Net censorship in Australia; a month later the organization was convicted of fraud in France.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140530</id>
	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258487040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>So what's the problem with taxing all religions as if they were businesses?  Tax them a certain proportion of their profits - no profits, no tax.  I'd expect that the Cult of Scientology would be among the first to get wholly reamed via the new taxation regimen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So what 's the problem with taxing all religions as if they were businesses ?
Tax them a certain proportion of their profits - no profits , no tax .
I 'd expect that the Cult of Scientology would be among the first to get wholly reamed via the new taxation regimen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what's the problem with taxing all religions as if they were businesses?
Tax them a certain proportion of their profits - no profits, no tax.
I'd expect that the Cult of Scientology would be among the first to get wholly reamed via the new taxation regimen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30144410</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>supersloshy</author>
	<datestamp>1257094320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's just a pity when religions get in the way of our society (abortion, contraceptives and gay rights are good things) and when people take them too far (terrorism).</p></div><p>1) There are lots of non-religious people that are pro-life because they see it as murder. You're killing a human child, breathing or not, when you have an abortion, a very selfish act without thinking about your potential child (unless, of course, the mother would die from having childbirth; that's reasonable).</p><p>2) Contraceptives, from what I hear, are <i>terrible</i> to use. A lot of people I know won't even consider them because of the risks involved.</p><p>3) I'm fine with gay partnerships, but is gay marriage really needed? Marriage has always been a religious thing even since ancient times. What could possibly come from gay marriage that a gay partnership won't bring?</p><p>4) Hitler/communism/etc. did more damage than religious terrorism ever did. All of them were non-religious.</p></div>
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<tokenext>It 's just a pity when religions get in the way of our society ( abortion , contraceptives and gay rights are good things ) and when people take them too far ( terrorism ) .1 ) There are lots of non-religious people that are pro-life because they see it as murder .
You 're killing a human child , breathing or not , when you have an abortion , a very selfish act without thinking about your potential child ( unless , of course , the mother would die from having childbirth ; that 's reasonable ) .2 ) Contraceptives , from what I hear , are terrible to use .
A lot of people I know wo n't even consider them because of the risks involved.3 ) I 'm fine with gay partnerships , but is gay marriage really needed ?
Marriage has always been a religious thing even since ancient times .
What could possibly come from gay marriage that a gay partnership wo n't bring ? 4 ) Hitler/communism/etc .
did more damage than religious terrorism ever did .
All of them were non-religious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's just a pity when religions get in the way of our society (abortion, contraceptives and gay rights are good things) and when people take them too far (terrorism).1) There are lots of non-religious people that are pro-life because they see it as murder.
You're killing a human child, breathing or not, when you have an abortion, a very selfish act without thinking about your potential child (unless, of course, the mother would die from having childbirth; that's reasonable).2) Contraceptives, from what I hear, are terrible to use.
A lot of people I know won't even consider them because of the risks involved.3) I'm fine with gay partnerships, but is gay marriage really needed?
Marriage has always been a religious thing even since ancient times.
What could possibly come from gay marriage that a gay partnership won't bring?4) Hitler/communism/etc.
did more damage than religious terrorism ever did.
All of them were non-religious.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140038</id>
	<title>we are anonymous</title>
	<author>TakeoffZebra</author>
	<datestamp>1258482240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>An "anonymous" reader. Hm, ironic?</htmltext>
<tokenext>An " anonymous " reader .
Hm , ironic ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An "anonymous" reader.
Hm, ironic?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30144186</id>
	<title>Re:What a difference 2000 years makes!</title>
	<author>CrimsonAvenger</author>
	<datestamp>1257093480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The only other world religion I can think of which is guilty of all of those things is the Catholic Church, and perhaps the Jesuit one.</p></div></blockquote><p>I might have thought you were making sense up to the point where you labeled the Jesuits a different religion than the Catholics....</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only other world religion I can think of which is guilty of all of those things is the Catholic Church , and perhaps the Jesuit one.I might have thought you were making sense up to the point where you labeled the Jesuits a different religion than the Catholics... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only other world religion I can think of which is guilty of all of those things is the Catholic Church, and perhaps the Jesuit one.I might have thought you were making sense up to the point where you labeled the Jesuits a different religion than the Catholics....
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30152338</id>
	<title>Re:I used to be a Scientologist</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257089520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"If there is no valid test for ADHD, no data proving ADHD is a brain dysfunction...why in the world are millions of children, teenagers and adults...being labeled with ADHD and prescribed drugs?"</p><p>- Dr. Mary Ann Block, author of No More ADHD</p><p><a href="http://www.cchr.org/getdownload/pubs/Psychiatric\_Drugs\_and\_Your\_Childs\_Future.pdf" title="cchr.org" rel="nofollow">"Psychiatric Drugs &amp; Your Child's Future</a> [cchr.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" If there is no valid test for ADHD , no data proving ADHD is a brain dysfunction...why in the world are millions of children , teenagers and adults...being labeled with ADHD and prescribed drugs ?
" - Dr. Mary Ann Block , author of No More ADHD " Psychiatric Drugs &amp; Your Child 's Future [ cchr.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"If there is no valid test for ADHD, no data proving ADHD is a brain dysfunction...why in the world are millions of children, teenagers and adults...being labeled with ADHD and prescribed drugs?
"- Dr. Mary Ann Block, author of No More ADHD"Psychiatric Drugs &amp; Your Child's Future [cchr.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30142230</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting name.</title>
	<author>hey!</author>
	<datestamp>1257083760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Plus, judging from the story title he's made of gold.  That's must mean something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Plus , judging from the story title he 's made of gold .
That 's must mean something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plus, judging from the story title he's made of gold.
That's must mean something.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30149626</id>
	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>SigmaTao</author>
	<datestamp>1257074700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I thought in general god was supposed to provide.... (apparently only if it's tax free<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-))</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought in general god was supposed to provide.... ( apparently only if it 's tax free ; - ) )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought in general god was supposed to provide.... (apparently only if it's tax free ;-))</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30145414</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>macbeth66</author>
	<datestamp>1257098280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Most religions don't copyright their message...</p></div><p>I know of NO other religion where the texts of that religion are copy righted and/or not freely distributed.  That in itself should cause the label of religion to be stripped from these jokers.</p><p>And, if there should be another such scam as Scumintology out there, then they too should give up their status.</p><p>I still can't believe that such a crappy writer was able to invent a religion that smucks would follow.  All for a bet.  And to the extent that it has spread.  Maybe he was a better writer than I thought and perhaps I should read some of his books again.  What was his bet book?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most religions do n't copyright their message...I know of NO other religion where the texts of that religion are copy righted and/or not freely distributed .
That in itself should cause the label of religion to be stripped from these jokers.And , if there should be another such scam as Scumintology out there , then they too should give up their status.I still ca n't believe that such a crappy writer was able to invent a religion that smucks would follow .
All for a bet .
And to the extent that it has spread .
Maybe he was a better writer than I thought and perhaps I should read some of his books again .
What was his bet book ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most religions don't copyright their message...I know of NO other religion where the texts of that religion are copy righted and/or not freely distributed.
That in itself should cause the label of religion to be stripped from these jokers.And, if there should be another such scam as Scumintology out there, then they too should give up their status.I still can't believe that such a crappy writer was able to invent a religion that smucks would follow.
All for a bet.
And to the extent that it has spread.
Maybe he was a better writer than I thought and perhaps I should read some of his books again.
What was his bet book?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30143200</id>
	<title>Why Scientology?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257089880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And not Islam?  Islam is more criminal an organization that all other "religions" in the history of the world combined.  Scientology may have killed a few people, but Islam kills people wherever they can find them.  It's like cancer for any government.</p><p>Scientology isn't going to start shooting it's own servicemen or dropping grenades into their own people's bunker.  They are scam artists and brain washers, sure.  But they don't rise to the level of muslim scum.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And not Islam ?
Islam is more criminal an organization that all other " religions " in the history of the world combined .
Scientology may have killed a few people , but Islam kills people wherever they can find them .
It 's like cancer for any government.Scientology is n't going to start shooting it 's own servicemen or dropping grenades into their own people 's bunker .
They are scam artists and brain washers , sure .
But they do n't rise to the level of muslim scum .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And not Islam?
Islam is more criminal an organization that all other "religions" in the history of the world combined.
Scientology may have killed a few people, but Islam kills people wherever they can find them.
It's like cancer for any government.Scientology isn't going to start shooting it's own servicemen or dropping grenades into their own people's bunker.
They are scam artists and brain washers, sure.
But they don't rise to the level of muslim scum.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30149862</id>
	<title>Here we go again</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257075540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone read the Anderson Report from 1965?</p><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson\_Report</p><p>http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Cowen/audit/andrhome.html</p><p>I fear the Xenophon report will be responded to in the same way. Slander, threaten and blackmail, the Scientology way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone read the Anderson Report from 1965 ? http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson \ _Reporthttp : //www.cs.cmu.edu/ ~ dst/Cowen/audit/andrhome.htmlI fear the Xenophon report will be responded to in the same way .
Slander , threaten and blackmail , the Scientology way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone read the Anderson Report from 1965?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson\_Reporthttp://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Cowen/audit/andrhome.htmlI fear the Xenophon report will be responded to in the same way.
Slander, threaten and blackmail, the Scientology way.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30178702</id>
	<title>If people have issues with the Gestapo why haven't</title>
	<author>Kodack</author>
	<datestamp>1258716600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You got to love their stance "If people had problems with the church why didn't they take it up with church officials? We have a dedicated department...."</p><p>It's like an SS officer saying "If people have problems with the Gestapo why haven't they taken them up with us? We have a dedicated group of individuals that deal with people like them. And by deal I mean assassinate"</p><p>Like anybody who's suffered torture is going to complain to their torturers.....</p><p>disingenuous</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You got to love their stance " If people had problems with the church why did n't they take it up with church officials ?
We have a dedicated department.... " It 's like an SS officer saying " If people have problems with the Gestapo why have n't they taken them up with us ?
We have a dedicated group of individuals that deal with people like them .
And by deal I mean assassinate " Like anybody who 's suffered torture is going to complain to their torturers.....disingenuous</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You got to love their stance "If people had problems with the church why didn't they take it up with church officials?
We have a dedicated department...."It's like an SS officer saying "If people have problems with the Gestapo why haven't they taken them up with us?
We have a dedicated group of individuals that deal with people like them.
And by deal I mean assassinate"Like anybody who's suffered torture is going to complain to their torturers.....disingenuous</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140030</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting name.</title>
	<author>ChromeAeonium</author>
	<datestamp>1258482180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0011Z5ESQ" title="amazon.com">Here's one!</a> [amazon.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's one !
[ amazon.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's one!
[amazon.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30145764</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting name.</title>
	<author>digitalgiblet</author>
	<datestamp>1257099780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Xenophon? Sounds like a foreigner...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Xenophon ?
Sounds like a foreigner.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Xenophon?
Sounds like a foreigner...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30142198</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting name.</title>
	<author>coolforsale110</author>
	<datestamp>1257083460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/</a> [coolforsale.com]
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<tokenext>http : //www.coolforsale.com/ [ coolforsale.com ] Christmas is around the corner : And old customers can also enjoy the gifts sent by my company in a can also request to our company .
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Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but do n't miss it.Select your favorite clothing !
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<sentencetext>http://www.coolforsale.com/ [coolforsale.com]
Christmas is around the corner: And old customers can also enjoy the gifts sent by my company in a can also request to our company.
Gifts lot,Buy more get the moreOnly this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services".
Your satisfaction is our main pursue.
You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs.
Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing!
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you!
ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket,
Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33
Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35
Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35
Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16
free shipping,competitive price,any size available,accept the paypal
Thanks</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140054</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting name.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258482360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Someone get me an e-meter, quick!"</p><p>I'm afraid sir you'll have to buy your own. This is a religion not a charity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Someone get me an e-meter , quick !
" I 'm afraid sir you 'll have to buy your own .
This is a religion not a charity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Someone get me an e-meter, quick!
"I'm afraid sir you'll have to buy your own.
This is a religion not a charity.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30142102</id>
	<title>Re:What a difference 2000 years makes!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257082140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thousand? Give it a few hundred years and it'll be a mostly-accepted religion, much like Mormonism today. They've already mostly abandoned polygamy, and the more racists parts of their dogma are being scrubbed by liberal interpretations. Still, magic underwear...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thousand ?
Give it a few hundred years and it 'll be a mostly-accepted religion , much like Mormonism today .
They 've already mostly abandoned polygamy , and the more racists parts of their dogma are being scrubbed by liberal interpretations .
Still , magic underwear.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thousand?
Give it a few hundred years and it'll be a mostly-accepted religion, much like Mormonism today.
They've already mostly abandoned polygamy, and the more racists parts of their dogma are being scrubbed by liberal interpretations.
Still, magic underwear...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30142182</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257083280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Religions come and go,</p></div><p>They seem to take rather a long time about it.  The biggest four or five have all been around for more than a thousand years, in which time political systems, massive cultural and technological changes, languages, and even entire nations have been and gone, and yet those big religions still remain and don't look like going away any time soon.  If you think "religions come and go", you must think every other aspect of human society is incredibly flighty.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Religions come and go,They seem to take rather a long time about it .
The biggest four or five have all been around for more than a thousand years , in which time political systems , massive cultural and technological changes , languages , and even entire nations have been and gone , and yet those big religions still remain and do n't look like going away any time soon .
If you think " religions come and go " , you must think every other aspect of human society is incredibly flighty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Religions come and go,They seem to take rather a long time about it.
The biggest four or five have all been around for more than a thousand years, in which time political systems, massive cultural and technological changes, languages, and even entire nations have been and gone, and yet those big religions still remain and don't look like going away any time soon.
If you think "religions come and go", you must think every other aspect of human society is incredibly flighty.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140420</id>
	<title>Re:A word on Xenophon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258485900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well they did make a movie, kinda. Its called "The Warriors" and its based on the comic, which was based on the original story of the 10000. I admits its not the same thing of course.</p><p>You can expect it will get produced at some point - and be about as historically accurate as that piece of shit 300. No one has any interest in producing actually historical films these days, I presume because the audience is too stupid and or ignorant to be thrilled at seeing a famous event and famous people portrayed. Plus of course Hollywood doesn't want to risk not getting the audience with the right special effects. I wonder how many current fans of 300 there would be if they realized the Spartans evidently encouraged their men to be homosexual? Not that theres anything wrong with that if it suits your tastes, but I bet many are ignorant of that.</p><p>Sorry you pushed my 300 button<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) I really despise that piece of utter shit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well they did make a movie , kinda .
Its called " The Warriors " and its based on the comic , which was based on the original story of the 10000 .
I admits its not the same thing of course.You can expect it will get produced at some point - and be about as historically accurate as that piece of shit 300 .
No one has any interest in producing actually historical films these days , I presume because the audience is too stupid and or ignorant to be thrilled at seeing a famous event and famous people portrayed .
Plus of course Hollywood does n't want to risk not getting the audience with the right special effects .
I wonder how many current fans of 300 there would be if they realized the Spartans evidently encouraged their men to be homosexual ?
Not that theres anything wrong with that if it suits your tastes , but I bet many are ignorant of that.Sorry you pushed my 300 button : ) I really despise that piece of utter shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well they did make a movie, kinda.
Its called "The Warriors" and its based on the comic, which was based on the original story of the 10000.
I admits its not the same thing of course.You can expect it will get produced at some point - and be about as historically accurate as that piece of shit 300.
No one has any interest in producing actually historical films these days, I presume because the audience is too stupid and or ignorant to be thrilled at seeing a famous event and famous people portrayed.
Plus of course Hollywood doesn't want to risk not getting the audience with the right special effects.
I wonder how many current fans of 300 there would be if they realized the Spartans evidently encouraged their men to be homosexual?
Not that theres anything wrong with that if it suits your tastes, but I bet many are ignorant of that.Sorry you pushed my 300 button :) I really despise that piece of utter shit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30139850</id>
	<title>Senator Xenophon?</title>
	<author>GodfatherofSoul</author>
	<datestamp>1258480740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Something tells me he's a CoS plant, hmmmmm...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Something tells me he 's a CoS plant , hmmmmm.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Something tells me he's a CoS plant, hmmmmm...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30151642</id>
	<title>Why does kdawson hate Scientology so?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257084780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I ponder what criminal acts kdawson has been up to?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ponder what criminal acts kdawson has been up to ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I ponder what criminal acts kdawson has been up to?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140262</id>
	<title>Re:Xenophon and Socrates</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258484160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Pretty OT here</p></div><p>No, you've got it all wrong. <a href="http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/confidentials-levels.htm" title="anti-scientologie.ch">This is OT</a> [anti-scientologie.ch].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty OT hereNo , you 've got it all wrong .
This is OT [ anti-scientologie.ch ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty OT hereNo, you've got it all wrong.
This is OT [anti-scientologie.ch].
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30142272</id>
	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>countach</author>
	<datestamp>1257084060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I don't think *any* organization, association, or person should ever have tax-free status period."</p><p>Ok, when you bring money into your organisation that you call a "family" let's tax it one more time. When you give your kids pocket money, lets tax it again. Exactly the same principle you are asking for. Money that goes into clubs and organisations has already been taxed. A tax free organisation is a group of people communally spending their post-tax dollars.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I do n't think * any * organization , association , or person should ever have tax-free status period .
" Ok , when you bring money into your organisation that you call a " family " let 's tax it one more time .
When you give your kids pocket money , lets tax it again .
Exactly the same principle you are asking for .
Money that goes into clubs and organisations has already been taxed .
A tax free organisation is a group of people communally spending their post-tax dollars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I don't think *any* organization, association, or person should ever have tax-free status period.
"Ok, when you bring money into your organisation that you call a "family" let's tax it one more time.
When you give your kids pocket money, lets tax it again.
Exactly the same principle you are asking for.
Money that goes into clubs and organisations has already been taxed.
A tax free organisation is a group of people communally spending their post-tax dollars.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141464</id>
	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257074100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Overall, religions should have to pay their own way.</p></div><p>You have the wrong way around. <i>Governments</i> should pay their own way. Religions get <i>voluntary</i> contributions, while governments resort to force for their income.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Overall , religions should have to pay their own way.You have the wrong way around .
Governments should pay their own way .
Religions get voluntary contributions , while governments resort to force for their income .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Overall, religions should have to pay their own way.You have the wrong way around.
Governments should pay their own way.
Religions get voluntary contributions, while governments resort to force for their income.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30147112</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257105420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait... abortion is a good thing??  I don't think any woman gets pregnant just to experience the joy of having an abortion.  I agree it should be legally available, but it seems like it should be a last resort.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait... abortion is a good thing ? ?
I do n't think any woman gets pregnant just to experience the joy of having an abortion .
I agree it should be legally available , but it seems like it should be a last resort .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait... abortion is a good thing??
I don't think any woman gets pregnant just to experience the joy of having an abortion.
I agree it should be legally available, but it seems like it should be a last resort.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30139874</id>
	<title>Makes me sick</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258480920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you think a <b>person</b> has broken the law then call the cops. Don't just splash allegations around under parliamentary privilege. If people in the CoS have broken laws then that says nothing about other people who associate with that organization.</p><p>In the absense of facts the senators statement in the summary could be applied to pretty much any set of people.</p><p>I don't like Scientology either but I value <b>my</b> freedom to associate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you think a person has broken the law then call the cops .
Do n't just splash allegations around under parliamentary privilege .
If people in the CoS have broken laws then that says nothing about other people who associate with that organization.In the absense of facts the senators statement in the summary could be applied to pretty much any set of people.I do n't like Scientology either but I value my freedom to associate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you think a person has broken the law then call the cops.
Don't just splash allegations around under parliamentary privilege.
If people in the CoS have broken laws then that says nothing about other people who associate with that organization.In the absense of facts the senators statement in the summary could be applied to pretty much any set of people.I don't like Scientology either but I value my freedom to associate.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140594</id>
	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>dbIII</author>
	<datestamp>1258487820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not really, the tax status of religion is irrelevant to this discussion even if some loony for hire like Senator Feilding brings it up.<br>Lionel Murphy's statement fails the standard of the bloody obvious even if he made it to prevent his name being on a precendent that may hurt a real religious group in the future.  Scientology is no more a religeon than "Jedi" with the same defence against this stupidity that we've seen it come out as fiction within living memory.<br>There is a vast pile of evidence that is is a scam so there is no point pretending that it is a religion just so we don't offend those liars that say it is.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not really , the tax status of religion is irrelevant to this discussion even if some loony for hire like Senator Feilding brings it up.Lionel Murphy 's statement fails the standard of the bloody obvious even if he made it to prevent his name being on a precendent that may hurt a real religious group in the future .
Scientology is no more a religeon than " Jedi " with the same defence against this stupidity that we 've seen it come out as fiction within living memory.There is a vast pile of evidence that is is a scam so there is no point pretending that it is a religion just so we do n't offend those liars that say it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not really, the tax status of religion is irrelevant to this discussion even if some loony for hire like Senator Feilding brings it up.Lionel Murphy's statement fails the standard of the bloody obvious even if he made it to prevent his name being on a precendent that may hurt a real religious group in the future.
Scientology is no more a religeon than "Jedi" with the same defence against this stupidity that we've seen it come out as fiction within living memory.There is a vast pile of evidence that is is a scam so there is no point pretending that it is a religion just so we don't offend those liars that say it is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30139860</id>
	<title>These intergalactic terrorists are crimals...</title>
	<author>lessthanpi</author>
	<datestamp>1258480800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Xenu and his Dc-8 like spacecraft will pay for what's been done!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Xenu and his Dc-8 like spacecraft will pay for what 's been done ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Xenu and his Dc-8 like spacecraft will pay for what's been done!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30143684</id>
	<title>We NEED those sky gods</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257091560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hey, if it can be used to keep some idiot from holding up a liquor store and shooting someone, I'm all for it. Sure, said individual SHOULD not shoot anyone because he has an individual sense of morality and because he recognizes that to advance as a society we must have a social contract in which we all show each other basic respect and courtesy. But, let's face it, most people are way too stupid to appreciate that level of social abstraction. So if we need to tell them that a sky god will come and kick their ass if they don't behave, then so be it.

The only real danger comes when a group of them (i.e. Crusaders or Jihadists) get it into their head that the sky god wants them to kill. But in the modern world that's (thankfully) a relatively rare thing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , if it can be used to keep some idiot from holding up a liquor store and shooting someone , I 'm all for it .
Sure , said individual SHOULD not shoot anyone because he has an individual sense of morality and because he recognizes that to advance as a society we must have a social contract in which we all show each other basic respect and courtesy .
But , let 's face it , most people are way too stupid to appreciate that level of social abstraction .
So if we need to tell them that a sky god will come and kick their ass if they do n't behave , then so be it .
The only real danger comes when a group of them ( i.e .
Crusaders or Jihadists ) get it into their head that the sky god wants them to kill .
But in the modern world that 's ( thankfully ) a relatively rare thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, if it can be used to keep some idiot from holding up a liquor store and shooting someone, I'm all for it.
Sure, said individual SHOULD not shoot anyone because he has an individual sense of morality and because he recognizes that to advance as a society we must have a social contract in which we all show each other basic respect and courtesy.
But, let's face it, most people are way too stupid to appreciate that level of social abstraction.
So if we need to tell them that a sky god will come and kick their ass if they don't behave, then so be it.
The only real danger comes when a group of them (i.e.
Crusaders or Jihadists) get it into their head that the sky god wants them to kill.
But in the modern world that's (thankfully) a relatively rare thing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30143422</id>
	<title>More information about the Cult of Scientology</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257090540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Some reading material:




			<a href="http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/" title="ytmnd.com" rel="nofollow">The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology</a> [ytmnd.com]
			A video showing in detail some of the crimes of the church.

		<br>


			<a href="http://www.greycomet.com/" title="greycomet.com" rel="nofollow">Grey Comet</a> [greycomet.com]
			Another site about Scientology and Anonymous.
		<br>


			<a href="http://www.torymagoo.org/" title="torymagoo.org" rel="nofollow">Tory Magoo</a> [torymagoo.org]

			This web site is dedicated to all of the many critics who have spent years helping to expose the abuses of the organization known as the Church of Scientology and to those who have helped people wake up and see the light.


		<br>
			<a href="http://www.lermanet.com/" title="lermanet.com" rel="nofollow">Lermanet</a> [lermanet.com]
			A Scientology related website run by Arnaldo Lerma.  This site has enough information to keep you reading for months.&gt;
	<br>



			<a href="http://www.lisamcpherson.org/" title="lisamcpherson.org" rel="nofollow">Lisa McPherson</a> [lisamcpherson.org]
			A site that tells the story of Lisa McPhersons life and death.
		<br>
			<a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,972865,00.html" title="time.com" rel="nofollow">Time Magazine 1991 Scientology Article</a> [time.com]
			One of the best articles in a major publication about Scientology.  A must read for anyone interested in more information.

	<br>

			<a href="http://youfoundthecard.com/" title="youfoundthecard.com" rel="nofollow">You Found The Card</a> [youfoundthecard.com]
			A sister site in the protests against Scientology.  This site is meant as a viral marketing site.  Print up business cards and flyers with the url on them.
<br>
			<a href="http://www.whoisdavidmiscavige.com/" title="whoisdavidmiscavige.com" rel="nofollow">Who is David Miscavige</a> [whoisdavidmiscavige.com]

Designed to show the true face behind the brutal Chairman of the Board for Scientology, David Miscavige.


		<br>
			<a href="http://www.whyaretheydead.info/" title="whyaretheydead.info" rel="nofollow">Why Are They Dead</a> [whyaretheydead.info]
			A list of people who have died at the hands of Scientology.


	<br>
			<a href="http://xenutv.com/" title="xenutv.com" rel="nofollow">XenuTV</a> [xenutv.com]

			Mark Bunker, an Emmy award winner, show videos about Scientology.
		<br>
			<a href="http://xenu.net/" title="xenu.net" rel="nofollow">Xenu.net</a> [xenu.net]
			A site full of information about Scientology.  If you are really up for a lot of reading, this is the place to go.
		<br>

			<a href="http://www.exscientologykids.com/" title="exscientologykids.com" rel="nofollow">Ex Scientology Kids</a> [exscientologykids.com]
			<div><p>Ex-Scientology kids is designed, owned, and operated by three young women who grew up in Scientology, and later left the Church.<br>


<a href="http://www.whyweprotest.net/" title="whyweprotest.net" rel="nofollow">A forum for Anonymous Protests against Scientology</a> [whyweprotest.net]

Signed appropriately,

Anonymous


We do not forgive,
We do not forget,
Expect Us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some reading material : The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology [ ytmnd.com ] A video showing in detail some of the crimes of the church .
Grey Comet [ greycomet.com ] Another site about Scientology and Anonymous .
Tory Magoo [ torymagoo.org ] This web site is dedicated to all of the many critics who have spent years helping to expose the abuses of the organization known as the Church of Scientology and to those who have helped people wake up and see the light .
Lermanet [ lermanet.com ] A Scientology related website run by Arnaldo Lerma .
This site has enough information to keep you reading for months. &gt; Lisa McPherson [ lisamcpherson.org ] A site that tells the story of Lisa McPhersons life and death .
Time Magazine 1991 Scientology Article [ time.com ] One of the best articles in a major publication about Scientology .
A must read for anyone interested in more information .
You Found The Card [ youfoundthecard.com ] A sister site in the protests against Scientology .
This site is meant as a viral marketing site .
Print up business cards and flyers with the url on them .
Who is David Miscavige [ whoisdavidmiscavige.com ] Designed to show the true face behind the brutal Chairman of the Board for Scientology , David Miscavige .
Why Are They Dead [ whyaretheydead.info ] A list of people who have died at the hands of Scientology .
XenuTV [ xenutv.com ] Mark Bunker , an Emmy award winner , show videos about Scientology .
Xenu.net [ xenu.net ] A site full of information about Scientology .
If you are really up for a lot of reading , this is the place to go .
Ex Scientology Kids [ exscientologykids.com ] Ex-Scientology kids is designed , owned , and operated by three young women who grew up in Scientology , and later left the Church .
A forum for Anonymous Protests against Scientology [ whyweprotest.net ] Signed appropriately , Anonymous We do not forgive , We do not forget , Expect Us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some reading material:




			The Un-Funny Truth About Scientology [ytmnd.com]
			A video showing in detail some of the crimes of the church.
Grey Comet [greycomet.com]
			Another site about Scientology and Anonymous.
Tory Magoo [torymagoo.org]

			This web site is dedicated to all of the many critics who have spent years helping to expose the abuses of the organization known as the Church of Scientology and to those who have helped people wake up and see the light.
Lermanet [lermanet.com]
			A Scientology related website run by Arnaldo Lerma.
This site has enough information to keep you reading for months.&gt;
	



			Lisa McPherson [lisamcpherson.org]
			A site that tells the story of Lisa McPhersons life and death.
Time Magazine 1991 Scientology Article [time.com]
			One of the best articles in a major publication about Scientology.
A must read for anyone interested in more information.
You Found The Card [youfoundthecard.com]
			A sister site in the protests against Scientology.
This site is meant as a viral marketing site.
Print up business cards and flyers with the url on them.
Who is David Miscavige [whoisdavidmiscavige.com]

Designed to show the true face behind the brutal Chairman of the Board for Scientology, David Miscavige.
Why Are They Dead [whyaretheydead.info]
			A list of people who have died at the hands of Scientology.
XenuTV [xenutv.com]

			Mark Bunker, an Emmy award winner, show videos about Scientology.
Xenu.net [xenu.net]
			A site full of information about Scientology.
If you are really up for a lot of reading, this is the place to go.
Ex Scientology Kids [exscientologykids.com]
			Ex-Scientology kids is designed, owned, and operated by three young women who grew up in Scientology, and later left the Church.
A forum for Anonymous Protests against Scientology [whyweprotest.net]

Signed appropriately,

Anonymous


We do not forgive,
We do not forget,
Expect Us.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30143864</id>
	<title>Re:A word on Xenophon</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1257092340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One of the greatest guy movies ever made. That was back when <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter\_Hill\_(filmmaker)" title="wikipedia.org">Walter Hill</a> [wikipedia.org] could do no wrong (his follow-up films were "The Long Riders," "48 Hours," and "Southern Comfort"). You could get extra chest hair just from hearing someone DESCRIBE one of that dude's movies.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the greatest guy movies ever made .
That was back when Walter Hill [ wikipedia.org ] could do no wrong ( his follow-up films were " The Long Riders , " " 48 Hours , " and " Southern Comfort " ) .
You could get extra chest hair just from hearing someone DESCRIBE one of that dude 's movies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the greatest guy movies ever made.
That was back when Walter Hill [wikipedia.org] could do no wrong (his follow-up films were "The Long Riders," "48 Hours," and "Southern Comfort").
You could get extra chest hair just from hearing someone DESCRIBE one of that dude's movies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30142120</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>nstlgc</author>
	<datestamp>1257082440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The big difference is that those religions are founded upon religious beliefs. Scientology at its core is a criminal organisation that at a certain point changed its image to reflect that of a religion in order to get tax exemption and to be able to hide behind religious beliefs and claims of hate speech. The late L. Ron Hubbard, who founded Scientology, once wrote very specifically that it is not a religion. Of course, you'll have a hard time finding that quote in Scientology books these days, since they've long been altered to reflect the new truth. 1984 much?

Let me repeat that. Scientology is not a religion, it is a hardcore criminal organisation.</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The big difference is that those religions are founded upon religious beliefs .
Scientology at its core is a criminal organisation that at a certain point changed its image to reflect that of a religion in order to get tax exemption and to be able to hide behind religious beliefs and claims of hate speech .
The late L. Ron Hubbard , who founded Scientology , once wrote very specifically that it is not a religion .
Of course , you 'll have a hard time finding that quote in Scientology books these days , since they 've long been altered to reflect the new truth .
1984 much ?
Let me repeat that .
Scientology is not a religion , it is a hardcore criminal organisation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The big difference is that those religions are founded upon religious beliefs.
Scientology at its core is a criminal organisation that at a certain point changed its image to reflect that of a religion in order to get tax exemption and to be able to hide behind religious beliefs and claims of hate speech.
The late L. Ron Hubbard, who founded Scientology, once wrote very specifically that it is not a religion.
Of course, you'll have a hard time finding that quote in Scientology books these days, since they've long been altered to reflect the new truth.
1984 much?
Let me repeat that.
Scientology is not a religion, it is a hardcore criminal organisation.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30143942</id>
	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>LifesABeach</author>
	<datestamp>1257092580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm still wrapping my head around the concept that a private club may have to be Taxed on the profits generated by, "...abuse, false imprisonment, and forced abortion..."  I'm not familiar with the laws of the "Land Down Under", but it sounds a little kinky, if you understand my drift...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm still wrapping my head around the concept that a private club may have to be Taxed on the profits generated by , " ...abuse , false imprisonment , and forced abortion... " I 'm not familiar with the laws of the " Land Down Under " , but it sounds a little kinky , if you understand my drift.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm still wrapping my head around the concept that a private club may have to be Taxed on the profits generated by, "...abuse, false imprisonment, and forced abortion..."  I'm not familiar with the laws of the "Land Down Under", but it sounds a little kinky, if you understand my drift...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30142044</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257081480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Some have been around longer than others and thus emanate a sense of legitimacy<br>&gt; but they're mostly cults with a God that we offer our prayers and money to in return for a hope of a better life.</p><p>You just described the Democrat party.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Some have been around longer than others and thus emanate a sense of legitimacy &gt; but they 're mostly cults with a God that we offer our prayers and money to in return for a hope of a better life.You just described the Democrat party .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Some have been around longer than others and thus emanate a sense of legitimacy&gt; but they're mostly cults with a God that we offer our prayers and money to in return for a hope of a better life.You just described the Democrat party.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30139838</id>
	<title>Interesting name.</title>
	<author>palegray.net</author>
	<datestamp>1258480680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Senator Xenophon? He must be in the clutches of Xenu! Someone get me an e-meter, quick!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Senator Xenophon ?
He must be in the clutches of Xenu !
Someone get me an e-meter , quick !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Senator Xenophon?
He must be in the clutches of Xenu!
Someone get me an e-meter, quick!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30145128</id>
	<title>Hey Kids!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257097080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They kicked me out because I wouldn't drink the koolaide.</p></div><p>Leave Kool Aid alone!
</p><p>
You mean Flavor Aid, don't you?
</p><p>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavor\_Aid#Jonestown\_suicide" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavor\_Aid#Jonestown\_suicide</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They kicked me out because I would n't drink the koolaide.Leave Kool Aid alone !
You mean Flavor Aid , do n't you ?
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavor \ _Aid # Jonestown \ _suicide [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They kicked me out because I wouldn't drink the koolaide.Leave Kool Aid alone!
You mean Flavor Aid, don't you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavor\_Aid#Jonestown\_suicide [wikipedia.org]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30147494</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting name.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257107400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can build an E-Meter for a few bucks if you want. Technically it's nothing more than a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheatstone\_bridge" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Wheatstone Bridge</a> [wikipedia.org] used to measure the skin resistance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can build an E-Meter for a few bucks if you want .
Technically it 's nothing more than a Wheatstone Bridge [ wikipedia.org ] used to measure the skin resistance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can build an E-Meter for a few bucks if you want.
Technically it's nothing more than a Wheatstone Bridge [wikipedia.org] used to measure the skin resistance.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30170624</id>
	<title>Re:I used to be a Scientologist</title>
	<author>sorak</author>
	<datestamp>1258730160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have never met a scientologist in person (or been made aware, if I did), but I am curious about how to convince someone that their religion is taking advantage of them, without making it sound like prejudice, or a personal attack against them. So, what was it that got you started asking questions? (I know about clambake, but I suspect that if you give a scientologist a URL, he will not use it, or will believe it is just bigoted anti-CoS propaganda).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have never met a scientologist in person ( or been made aware , if I did ) , but I am curious about how to convince someone that their religion is taking advantage of them , without making it sound like prejudice , or a personal attack against them .
So , what was it that got you started asking questions ?
( I know about clambake , but I suspect that if you give a scientologist a URL , he will not use it , or will believe it is just bigoted anti-CoS propaganda ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have never met a scientologist in person (or been made aware, if I did), but I am curious about how to convince someone that their religion is taking advantage of them, without making it sound like prejudice, or a personal attack against them.
So, what was it that got you started asking questions?
(I know about clambake, but I suspect that if you give a scientologist a URL, he will not use it, or will believe it is just bigoted anti-CoS propaganda).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30154956</id>
	<title>Re:It should even have been dissolved here in Fran</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258639260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Scientology is a CIA creation to produce Manchurian candidates, so dirty tricks by CIA in France to support them is no surprise. Famous political assassinations by Scientology prepped psychopaths prove this. Murders of Anna Lindh, Olof Palme, JFK, RFK, etc. etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Scientology is a CIA creation to produce Manchurian candidates , so dirty tricks by CIA in France to support them is no surprise .
Famous political assassinations by Scientology prepped psychopaths prove this .
Murders of Anna Lindh , Olof Palme , JFK , RFK , etc .
etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Scientology is a CIA creation to produce Manchurian candidates, so dirty tricks by CIA in France to support them is no surprise.
Famous political assassinations by Scientology prepped psychopaths prove this.
Murders of Anna Lindh, Olof Palme, JFK, RFK, etc.
etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30142892</id>
	<title>Re:Xenophon and Socrates</title>
	<author>SouperMike</author>
	<datestamp>1257088380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>almost as dumb as the bullet proof pants that the Mormons try and pedal.</p></div></blockquote><p>True, but if you pedal them really hard, eventually you can get them going pretty fast!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>almost as dumb as the bullet proof pants that the Mormons try and pedal.True , but if you pedal them really hard , eventually you can get them going pretty fast !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>almost as dumb as the bullet proof pants that the Mormons try and pedal.True, but if you pedal them really hard, eventually you can get them going pretty fast!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140382</id>
	<title>Fair Game</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258485360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suppose that should be enough to have Senator Xenophon (he's got a cool last name, any way you look at it) declared as a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressive\_Person" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">suppressive person</a> [wikipedia.org] by the Church, and hence becomes <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair\_Game\_(Scientology)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">fair game</a> [wikipedia.org]. He'd better watch his back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suppose that should be enough to have Senator Xenophon ( he 's got a cool last name , any way you look at it ) declared as a suppressive person [ wikipedia.org ] by the Church , and hence becomes fair game [ wikipedia.org ] .
He 'd better watch his back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suppose that should be enough to have Senator Xenophon (he's got a cool last name, any way you look at it) declared as a suppressive person [wikipedia.org] by the Church, and hence becomes fair game [wikipedia.org].
He'd better watch his back.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140092</id>
	<title>Re:tax shelter</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258482660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fucking mods.  Now it's insightful to wonder something?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fucking mods .
Now it 's insightful to wonder something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fucking mods.
Now it's insightful to wonder something?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140988</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting name.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257067320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>xeno phon...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... friendly to strangers...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... strange friend...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... phobe... phon...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...phone...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...ah...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...strange sound...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...naaaah...</p><p>it's all about Socrates.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>xeno phon... ... friendly to strangers... ... strange friend... ... phobe... phon... ...phone... ...ah... ...strange sound... ...naaaah...it 's all about Socrates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>xeno phon... ... friendly to strangers... ... strange friend... ... phobe... phon... ...phone... ...ah... ...strange sound... ...naaaah...it's all about Socrates.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140656</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257106260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Religions come and go</p></div><p>Sure, they're just fly-by-nights.  I mean it's not as if religions stick around for thousands of years, outlasting political systems, massive social and technological changes, and even entire countries<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I mean, if that were the case, we'd be seeing churches, synagogues, or mosques that were built way back in say the eleventh century dotted around the place... I mean, it's not as if Europe or the middle east has any of those, right?  Oh, wait...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Religions come and goSure , they 're just fly-by-nights .
I mean it 's not as if religions stick around for thousands of years , outlasting political systems , massive social and technological changes , and even entire countries ... I mean , if that were the case , we 'd be seeing churches , synagogues , or mosques that were built way back in say the eleventh century dotted around the place... I mean , it 's not as if Europe or the middle east has any of those , right ?
Oh , wait.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Religions come and goSure, they're just fly-by-nights.
I mean it's not as if religions stick around for thousands of years, outlasting political systems, massive social and technological changes, and even entire countries ... I mean, if that were the case, we'd be seeing churches, synagogues, or mosques that were built way back in say the eleventh century dotted around the place... I mean, it's not as if Europe or the middle east has any of those, right?
Oh, wait...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140564</id>
	<title>Mr X</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258487340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>South Australia Premier Mike Rann hates Senator Nick Xenophon because he could upstage him in state politics with clever and cheeky media stunts and is more popular.</p><p>South Australia Deputy Premier and Treasurer Kevin Foley doesn't like him either, as evidenced by Nick calling him a fucking cunt. (Which he is.)</p><p>Consequently, the Labor party hates Nick Xenophon.</p><p>Don't always agree with Nick, but he definitely isn't afraid to call out bullshit when he sees it and you have to respect that. Apparently a huge number of fellow South Australians also think the same, which is why he polled enough primary votes to win 1 of 6 senate seats in the last federal election.</p><p>The world would be a better place with more people like Nick Xenophon in parliament.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>South Australia Premier Mike Rann hates Senator Nick Xenophon because he could upstage him in state politics with clever and cheeky media stunts and is more popular.South Australia Deputy Premier and Treasurer Kevin Foley does n't like him either , as evidenced by Nick calling him a fucking cunt .
( Which he is .
) Consequently , the Labor party hates Nick Xenophon.Do n't always agree with Nick , but he definitely is n't afraid to call out bullshit when he sees it and you have to respect that .
Apparently a huge number of fellow South Australians also think the same , which is why he polled enough primary votes to win 1 of 6 senate seats in the last federal election.The world would be a better place with more people like Nick Xenophon in parliament .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>South Australia Premier Mike Rann hates Senator Nick Xenophon because he could upstage him in state politics with clever and cheeky media stunts and is more popular.South Australia Deputy Premier and Treasurer Kevin Foley doesn't like him either, as evidenced by Nick calling him a fucking cunt.
(Which he is.
)Consequently, the Labor party hates Nick Xenophon.Don't always agree with Nick, but he definitely isn't afraid to call out bullshit when he sees it and you have to respect that.
Apparently a huge number of fellow South Australians also think the same, which is why he polled enough primary votes to win 1 of 6 senate seats in the last federal election.The world would be a better place with more people like Nick Xenophon in parliament.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30139856</id>
	<title>Good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258480800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30143790</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>blind biker</author>
	<datestamp>1257091980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Try telling that abortion is a good thing, to a woman that just had one, and I bet you won't get an unambiguously positive reaction.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Try telling that abortion is a good thing , to a woman that just had one , and I bet you wo n't get an unambiguously positive reaction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try telling that abortion is a good thing, to a woman that just had one, and I bet you won't get an unambiguously positive reaction.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30142766</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting name.</title>
	<author>Chris Mattern</author>
	<datestamp>1257087660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Jeez, look at the color scheme.  I didn't know they made a Barbie(tm) voltmeter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jeez , look at the color scheme .
I did n't know they made a Barbie ( tm ) voltmeter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jeez, look at the color scheme.
I didn't know they made a Barbie(tm) voltmeter.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30147762</id>
	<title>Re:A word on Xenophon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257108780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Surprised they haven't made a movie out of it a la <i>300</i>.</p></div><p>They did. <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080120/" title="imdb.com" rel="nofollow">Sort of.</a> [imdb.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Surprised they have n't made a movie out of it a la 300.They did .
Sort of .
[ imdb.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surprised they haven't made a movie out of it a la 300.They did.
Sort of.
[imdb.com]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30156296</id>
	<title>Re:Zen Buddhism/Hebrew prophets</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1258646040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>To be blunt, one reason Scientology is so successful might be because it has targeted the rich and gullible.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
As opposed to most religions, where you don't need to be rich?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>To be blunt , one reason Scientology is so successful might be because it has targeted the rich and gullible .
As opposed to most religions , where you do n't need to be rich ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be blunt, one reason Scientology is so successful might be because it has targeted the rich and gullible.
As opposed to most religions, where you don't need to be rich?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30144798</id>
	<title>Re:What a difference 2000 years makes!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257095820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>From an outsiders perspective (atheist), scientology isn't any more corrupt or evil than any other organized religion in the world.</p></div><p>Then you don't know anything about it.</p><p>Scientology has engaged in subversive criminal conspiracies.  Other religions haven't.  You don't call that evil or dangerous?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From an outsiders perspective ( atheist ) , scientology is n't any more corrupt or evil than any other organized religion in the world.Then you do n't know anything about it.Scientology has engaged in subversive criminal conspiracies .
Other religions have n't .
You do n't call that evil or dangerous ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From an outsiders perspective (atheist), scientology isn't any more corrupt or evil than any other organized religion in the world.Then you don't know anything about it.Scientology has engaged in subversive criminal conspiracies.
Other religions haven't.
You don't call that evil or dangerous?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30152288</id>
	<title>Re:What a difference 2000 years makes!</title>
	<author>Bottoms</author>
	<datestamp>1257089220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Personally, I'm into those religions that have those special healing crystals that you rub all over your body.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally , I 'm into those religions that have those special healing crystals that you rub all over your body .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally, I'm into those religions that have those special healing crystals that you rub all over your body.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141652</id>
	<title>Re:A word on Xenophon</title>
	<author>L4t3r4lu5</author>
	<datestamp>1257076560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>There was a guy in my Computer Science class called Xavier.<br> <br>He pronounced it as "Zaviyay". Ponce.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There was a guy in my Computer Science class called Xavier .
He pronounced it as " Zaviyay " .
Ponce .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There was a guy in my Computer Science class called Xavier.
He pronounced it as "Zaviyay".
Ponce.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30142352</id>
	<title>Re:What a difference 2000 years makes!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257084780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>To think that Scientology is on a par with the average world religion is a relativist mistake.</p></div><p>You're right. The only other world religion I can think of which is guilty of all of those things is the Catholic Church, and perhaps the Jesuit one. Of course, the Catholics also have that whole institutionalized relocation of child molesters thing, where they transport pederasts all over the world so that they can rape an international assortment of young boys. So far, only the Catholics thus have the Scientologists beat for pure evil. If you add in things in the past like discouraging education to dissuade followers from developing their own interpretation of the bible, then you can perhaps term them the most evil organization which has ever been.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>To think that Scientology is on a par with the average world religion is a relativist mistake.You 're right .
The only other world religion I can think of which is guilty of all of those things is the Catholic Church , and perhaps the Jesuit one .
Of course , the Catholics also have that whole institutionalized relocation of child molesters thing , where they transport pederasts all over the world so that they can rape an international assortment of young boys .
So far , only the Catholics thus have the Scientologists beat for pure evil .
If you add in things in the past like discouraging education to dissuade followers from developing their own interpretation of the bible , then you can perhaps term them the most evil organization which has ever been .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To think that Scientology is on a par with the average world religion is a relativist mistake.You're right.
The only other world religion I can think of which is guilty of all of those things is the Catholic Church, and perhaps the Jesuit one.
Of course, the Catholics also have that whole institutionalized relocation of child molesters thing, where they transport pederasts all over the world so that they can rape an international assortment of young boys.
So far, only the Catholics thus have the Scientologists beat for pure evil.
If you add in things in the past like discouraging education to dissuade followers from developing their own interpretation of the bible, then you can perhaps term them the most evil organization which has ever been.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140366</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>stillpixel</author>
	<datestamp>1258485180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are you somehow saying the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is a scam???  Blaspheme!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you somehow saying the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is a scam ? ? ?
Blaspheme !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you somehow saying the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is a scam???
Blaspheme!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30145558</id>
	<title>End US Tax Exemption for All Religions</title>
	<author>okmijnuhb</author>
	<datestamp>1257098820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30161366</id>
	<title>Re:A word on Xenophon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258661880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They did make a movie based on the story, called The Warriors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They did make a movie based on the story , called The Warriors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They did make a movie based on the story, called The Warriors.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140454</id>
	<title>Re:A word on Xenophon</title>
	<author>giorgist</author>
	<datestamp>1258486200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well then his first name is also Greek and it is short for Nickolas in English or Nickolaos in Greek.<br><br>It is a compund of "Nike" as in victory and "laos" as people.<br><br>In other words<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... for the victory of the people<br><br>G</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well then his first name is also Greek and it is short for Nickolas in English or Nickolaos in Greek.It is a compund of " Nike " as in victory and " laos " as people.In other words ... for the victory of the peopleG</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well then his first name is also Greek and it is short for Nickolas in English or Nickolaos in Greek.It is a compund of "Nike" as in victory and "laos" as people.In other words ... for the victory of the peopleG</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30139870</id>
	<title>tax shelter</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258480860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't help but wonder if the COS would even exist without its tax exempt status.  Sure the people up top would be doing well like any pyramid scheme but would there be such an incentive for new members to join without the tax exemption?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't help but wonder if the COS would even exist without its tax exempt status .
Sure the people up top would be doing well like any pyramid scheme but would there be such an incentive for new members to join without the tax exemption ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't help but wonder if the COS would even exist without its tax exempt status.
Sure the people up top would be doing well like any pyramid scheme but would there be such an incentive for new members to join without the tax exemption?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30146650</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>pwfffff</author>
	<datestamp>1257103440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cause little things like, ohhhh, the INTERNET haven't changed the human condition since those deep and ancient texts were written, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cause little things like , ohhhh , the INTERNET have n't changed the human condition since those deep and ancient texts were written , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cause little things like, ohhhh, the INTERNET haven't changed the human condition since those deep and ancient texts were written, right?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30142312</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257084360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Religions give followers a sense of belonging and an answer to questions like who made the universe and what happens when I die.</i> </p><p>None of those questions have certain answers. They are selling something they don't have. Ergo, fraud.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Religions give followers a sense of belonging and an answer to questions like who made the universe and what happens when I die .
None of those questions have certain answers .
They are selling something they do n't have .
Ergo , fraud .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Religions give followers a sense of belonging and an answer to questions like who made the universe and what happens when I die.
None of those questions have certain answers.
They are selling something they don't have.
Ergo, fraud.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140146</id>
	<title>A word on Xenophon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258483080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Xenophon, for those unfamiliar, was an ancient Greek general best known for writing <i>The Anabasis</i> -- an account of the trials and adventures of The Ten Thousand, a group of Greek mercenaries hired by Cyrus the Younger. After he's killed in battle, the Greeks have to march back to Greece from deep within enemy territory. It's quite a thrilling tale with plenty of action and treachery. Surprised they haven't made a movie out of it a la <i>300</i>.</p><p>If I was Mr. Xenophon, I'd rather go up against the Persians than the Scientologists<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D In any event, he has an awesome last name.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Xenophon , for those unfamiliar , was an ancient Greek general best known for writing The Anabasis -- an account of the trials and adventures of The Ten Thousand , a group of Greek mercenaries hired by Cyrus the Younger .
After he 's killed in battle , the Greeks have to march back to Greece from deep within enemy territory .
It 's quite a thrilling tale with plenty of action and treachery .
Surprised they have n't made a movie out of it a la 300.If I was Mr. Xenophon , I 'd rather go up against the Persians than the Scientologists : D In any event , he has an awesome last name .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Xenophon, for those unfamiliar, was an ancient Greek general best known for writing The Anabasis -- an account of the trials and adventures of The Ten Thousand, a group of Greek mercenaries hired by Cyrus the Younger.
After he's killed in battle, the Greeks have to march back to Greece from deep within enemy territory.
It's quite a thrilling tale with plenty of action and treachery.
Surprised they haven't made a movie out of it a la 300.If I was Mr. Xenophon, I'd rather go up against the Persians than the Scientologists :D In any event, he has an awesome last name.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141470</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>the\_womble</author>
	<datestamp>1257074160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A scan by whom, practised on whom. The founders of Christianity and Buddhism did not exactly benefit by founding a religion.</p><p>What do you mean by a better life. None of the major religions promise a better life in this life, only the next.</p><p>The other problem is that you are assuming that there is no God. If so, then theistic religions are clearly a waste of time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A scan by whom , practised on whom .
The founders of Christianity and Buddhism did not exactly benefit by founding a religion.What do you mean by a better life .
None of the major religions promise a better life in this life , only the next.The other problem is that you are assuming that there is no God .
If so , then theistic religions are clearly a waste of time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A scan by whom, practised on whom.
The founders of Christianity and Buddhism did not exactly benefit by founding a religion.What do you mean by a better life.
None of the major religions promise a better life in this life, only the next.The other problem is that you are assuming that there is no God.
If so, then theistic religions are clearly a waste of time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140224</id>
	<title>Celebrity backlash, awesome!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258483740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can only hope this means no more promotional tours from John Travolta and Tom Cruise. That's a protest I can live with and love. Also, Jenna Elfman.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can only hope this means no more promotional tours from John Travolta and Tom Cruise .
That 's a protest I can live with and love .
Also , Jenna Elfman .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can only hope this means no more promotional tours from John Travolta and Tom Cruise.
That's a protest I can live with and love.
Also, Jenna Elfman.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30142630</id>
	<title>Re:What a difference 2000 years makes!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257086880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I attend a church that regularly meets with other churches (of different beliefs, islamic, jewish, etc) to discuss how to best focus thier efforts to improve the community around them.  They offer aid to needy families, the just released the parish budget last week showing how our money was used to give over 154,000 dollars to the local community in money alone.  I would hazard that over 50,000 hours of time are devoted each year to the local community by our parish alone, not including the mosques and temples whose members also donate their own time.  Friends of the night people, GoodWill, Catholic Charities, Shalom House, The Family Development Center.  They have open discussions on the ideas of women priests and gay rights.  The church is "in charge" if you believe it in, in keep you safe, in advising you in all aspects of your life.  They don't want to discriminate, but they also don't want to simply give the "go ahead" over traditional beliefs.  It's a slow changing organization, and that is their biggest failing, but it is not the ignorant body of mindless followers you describe.</p><p>You seem to be stuck on the idea that if a religion has ever done anything wrong, than it can never be right.  You are equating the minds and education of people in the 1000 AD with people in 2000 AD.  These people believed that gassy food from your stomach would rise through your body and cause blindness (John Milton).  They thought that the body consisted of four humors and there was no proper education to aid them.</p><p>The fact that you equate a time when most of the church was uneducated and fearful to today is simply ignorant of our own history.  If scientology existed in 1000 AD and was pulling this stuff, then fine.  I agree, while I don't believe their view, they are no different.  But it is not 10 AD, it's not even 1500, 1700, or 1800.  The Catholic church supports evolution, the big bang, and has officially adopted all the most modern scientific positions. They have dedicated and inspired millions of people to work harder at a better world. If the church starts a new crusade you can bet I'll be out in a heartbeat, but they won't.  They have grown smarter as our people have, and we will continue to work on making sure we are not adhering to meaningless tradition while putting real help into the world.</p><p>I cannot defend the actions of religious leaders over 1000 years ago, and I shouldn't have to.  If the church of Scientology stops suing people and starts helping I'll gladly back off of them.  Likewise if the bible ever become a "for pay" book, I'll be banging on my church door for change.</p><p>The Catholic Church, and many other churches, do a myriad of good in the world today.  Whatever their individual beliefs, they help atheists and non-believers a like because it is their duty.  They may be wrong sometimes, in fact there are things in the church I don't agree with (gay rights is one of them) but the true churches are not hunting down "the gays" they welcome them to talk, to understand, and to try and figure out who needs to change.</p><p>The moment I see a group of atheists give this kind of consideration to their fellow man, the day they offer over millions of dollars and man hours to the welfare of man kind, the moment they come together and actually practice the "humanity without religion" they so often preach, the moment they a start viewing mankind as a being with dignity and not a lump of flesh to be abused, well sir, then I will eat my hat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I attend a church that regularly meets with other churches ( of different beliefs , islamic , jewish , etc ) to discuss how to best focus thier efforts to improve the community around them .
They offer aid to needy families , the just released the parish budget last week showing how our money was used to give over 154,000 dollars to the local community in money alone .
I would hazard that over 50,000 hours of time are devoted each year to the local community by our parish alone , not including the mosques and temples whose members also donate their own time .
Friends of the night people , GoodWill , Catholic Charities , Shalom House , The Family Development Center .
They have open discussions on the ideas of women priests and gay rights .
The church is " in charge " if you believe it in , in keep you safe , in advising you in all aspects of your life .
They do n't want to discriminate , but they also do n't want to simply give the " go ahead " over traditional beliefs .
It 's a slow changing organization , and that is their biggest failing , but it is not the ignorant body of mindless followers you describe.You seem to be stuck on the idea that if a religion has ever done anything wrong , than it can never be right .
You are equating the minds and education of people in the 1000 AD with people in 2000 AD .
These people believed that gassy food from your stomach would rise through your body and cause blindness ( John Milton ) .
They thought that the body consisted of four humors and there was no proper education to aid them.The fact that you equate a time when most of the church was uneducated and fearful to today is simply ignorant of our own history .
If scientology existed in 1000 AD and was pulling this stuff , then fine .
I agree , while I do n't believe their view , they are no different .
But it is not 10 AD , it 's not even 1500 , 1700 , or 1800 .
The Catholic church supports evolution , the big bang , and has officially adopted all the most modern scientific positions .
They have dedicated and inspired millions of people to work harder at a better world .
If the church starts a new crusade you can bet I 'll be out in a heartbeat , but they wo n't .
They have grown smarter as our people have , and we will continue to work on making sure we are not adhering to meaningless tradition while putting real help into the world.I can not defend the actions of religious leaders over 1000 years ago , and I should n't have to .
If the church of Scientology stops suing people and starts helping I 'll gladly back off of them .
Likewise if the bible ever become a " for pay " book , I 'll be banging on my church door for change.The Catholic Church , and many other churches , do a myriad of good in the world today .
Whatever their individual beliefs , they help atheists and non-believers a like because it is their duty .
They may be wrong sometimes , in fact there are things in the church I do n't agree with ( gay rights is one of them ) but the true churches are not hunting down " the gays " they welcome them to talk , to understand , and to try and figure out who needs to change.The moment I see a group of atheists give this kind of consideration to their fellow man , the day they offer over millions of dollars and man hours to the welfare of man kind , the moment they come together and actually practice the " humanity without religion " they so often preach , the moment they a start viewing mankind as a being with dignity and not a lump of flesh to be abused , well sir , then I will eat my hat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I attend a church that regularly meets with other churches (of different beliefs, islamic, jewish, etc) to discuss how to best focus thier efforts to improve the community around them.
They offer aid to needy families, the just released the parish budget last week showing how our money was used to give over 154,000 dollars to the local community in money alone.
I would hazard that over 50,000 hours of time are devoted each year to the local community by our parish alone, not including the mosques and temples whose members also donate their own time.
Friends of the night people, GoodWill, Catholic Charities, Shalom House, The Family Development Center.
They have open discussions on the ideas of women priests and gay rights.
The church is "in charge" if you believe it in, in keep you safe, in advising you in all aspects of your life.
They don't want to discriminate, but they also don't want to simply give the "go ahead" over traditional beliefs.
It's a slow changing organization, and that is their biggest failing, but it is not the ignorant body of mindless followers you describe.You seem to be stuck on the idea that if a religion has ever done anything wrong, than it can never be right.
You are equating the minds and education of people in the 1000 AD with people in 2000 AD.
These people believed that gassy food from your stomach would rise through your body and cause blindness (John Milton).
They thought that the body consisted of four humors and there was no proper education to aid them.The fact that you equate a time when most of the church was uneducated and fearful to today is simply ignorant of our own history.
If scientology existed in 1000 AD and was pulling this stuff, then fine.
I agree, while I don't believe their view, they are no different.
But it is not 10 AD, it's not even 1500, 1700, or 1800.
The Catholic church supports evolution, the big bang, and has officially adopted all the most modern scientific positions.
They have dedicated and inspired millions of people to work harder at a better world.
If the church starts a new crusade you can bet I'll be out in a heartbeat, but they won't.
They have grown smarter as our people have, and we will continue to work on making sure we are not adhering to meaningless tradition while putting real help into the world.I cannot defend the actions of religious leaders over 1000 years ago, and I shouldn't have to.
If the church of Scientology stops suing people and starts helping I'll gladly back off of them.
Likewise if the bible ever become a "for pay" book, I'll be banging on my church door for change.The Catholic Church, and many other churches, do a myriad of good in the world today.
Whatever their individual beliefs, they help atheists and non-believers a like because it is their duty.
They may be wrong sometimes, in fact there are things in the church I don't agree with (gay rights is one of them) but the true churches are not hunting down "the gays" they welcome them to talk, to understand, and to try and figure out who needs to change.The moment I see a group of atheists give this kind of consideration to their fellow man, the day they offer over millions of dollars and man hours to the welfare of man kind, the moment they come together and actually practice the "humanity without religion" they so often preach, the moment they a start viewing mankind as a being with dignity and not a lump of flesh to be abused, well sir, then I will eat my hat.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140026</id>
	<title>Xenophon and Socrates</title>
	<author>MosesJones</author>
	<datestamp>1258482120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pretty OT here but with people making Xenu gags because of the name its worth point out that <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Conversations-Socrates-Penguin-Classics-Xenophon/dp/014044517X" title="amazon.com">Xenophon's Conversations with Socrates</a> [amazon.com] is one of the few sources for views of the great Greek philosopher and orator.</p><p>CoS are of course a shill, its not even a very clever shill, their "e-meters" are almost as dumb as the bullet proof pants that the Mormons try and pedal.</p><p>Why should any religion get tax status?  They aren't a charity, the money is primarily there to support their own organisation.  They are selling a product called "salvation" and people are paying money in the belief they are getting something back.</p><p>Socrates wasn't the biggest fan of religion either... question everything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty OT here but with people making Xenu gags because of the name its worth point out that Xenophon 's Conversations with Socrates [ amazon.com ] is one of the few sources for views of the great Greek philosopher and orator.CoS are of course a shill , its not even a very clever shill , their " e-meters " are almost as dumb as the bullet proof pants that the Mormons try and pedal.Why should any religion get tax status ?
They are n't a charity , the money is primarily there to support their own organisation .
They are selling a product called " salvation " and people are paying money in the belief they are getting something back.Socrates was n't the biggest fan of religion either... question everything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty OT here but with people making Xenu gags because of the name its worth point out that Xenophon's Conversations with Socrates [amazon.com] is one of the few sources for views of the great Greek philosopher and orator.CoS are of course a shill, its not even a very clever shill, their "e-meters" are almost as dumb as the bullet proof pants that the Mormons try and pedal.Why should any religion get tax status?
They aren't a charity, the money is primarily there to support their own organisation.
They are selling a product called "salvation" and people are paying money in the belief they are getting something back.Socrates wasn't the biggest fan of religion either... question everything.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140460</id>
	<title>I used to be a Scientologist</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258486200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>.....and I can tell you from personal experience that it really is pure concentrated evil.</p><p>Scientology has gotten away with innumerable crimes over the years in part because the average person is incapable of imagining that anything can be so completely malign in its goals.  The organization is completely sociopathic.</p><p>They kicked me out because I wouldn't drink the koolaide.</p><p>If you want to know more, I recommend you check out operation clambake (www.xenu.net)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.....and I can tell you from personal experience that it really is pure concentrated evil.Scientology has gotten away with innumerable crimes over the years in part because the average person is incapable of imagining that anything can be so completely malign in its goals .
The organization is completely sociopathic.They kicked me out because I would n't drink the koolaide.If you want to know more , I recommend you check out operation clambake ( www.xenu.net )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.....and I can tell you from personal experience that it really is pure concentrated evil.Scientology has gotten away with innumerable crimes over the years in part because the average person is incapable of imagining that anything can be so completely malign in its goals.
The organization is completely sociopathic.They kicked me out because I wouldn't drink the koolaide.If you want to know more, I recommend you check out operation clambake (www.xenu.net)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141380</id>
	<title>Zen Buddhism/Hebrew prophets</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257073080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>That would include the Zen masters that told people that the secret of the good life is to overcome your training, experience things for yourself and "just be natural"? Or the Hebrew prophets who told anyone who would listen that God was not interested in temples, altars and sacrifices, but wanted people to live ethically and at peace with their neighbours?<p>The sad truth is that religions become centres of power, and centres of power attract criminals. It's interesting to see how even the green movement is being plagued with criminals selling people massively uneconomic wind and solar systems, because people's desire to do good often exceeds their ability to see through bullshit. But some religions - Zen, Quakers, Reform Judaism, the liberal wing of the Episcopalian Church - have proven very resistant to criminal infiltration. That's possibly because they attract mainly very educated people. To be blunt, one reason Scientology is so successful might be because it has targeted the rich and gullible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That would include the Zen masters that told people that the secret of the good life is to overcome your training , experience things for yourself and " just be natural " ?
Or the Hebrew prophets who told anyone who would listen that God was not interested in temples , altars and sacrifices , but wanted people to live ethically and at peace with their neighbours ? The sad truth is that religions become centres of power , and centres of power attract criminals .
It 's interesting to see how even the green movement is being plagued with criminals selling people massively uneconomic wind and solar systems , because people 's desire to do good often exceeds their ability to see through bullshit .
But some religions - Zen , Quakers , Reform Judaism , the liberal wing of the Episcopalian Church - have proven very resistant to criminal infiltration .
That 's possibly because they attract mainly very educated people .
To be blunt , one reason Scientology is so successful might be because it has targeted the rich and gullible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That would include the Zen masters that told people that the secret of the good life is to overcome your training, experience things for yourself and "just be natural"?
Or the Hebrew prophets who told anyone who would listen that God was not interested in temples, altars and sacrifices, but wanted people to live ethically and at peace with their neighbours?The sad truth is that religions become centres of power, and centres of power attract criminals.
It's interesting to see how even the green movement is being plagued with criminals selling people massively uneconomic wind and solar systems, because people's desire to do good often exceeds their ability to see through bullshit.
But some religions - Zen, Quakers, Reform Judaism, the liberal wing of the Episcopalian Church - have proven very resistant to criminal infiltration.
That's possibly because they attract mainly very educated people.
To be blunt, one reason Scientology is so successful might be because it has targeted the rich and gullible.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1257085080000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Overall, religions should have to pay their own way.</p></div><p>Amen to that! Seriously though, the laws providing tax-exempt status to some religions and not to others are clearly unconstitutional in the USA; there is no functional difference between a law which favors one or some religion[s], and a law which <em>dis</em>favors one or some. If churches cannot collect sufficient operating funds from their members, they do not need to exist. They are entitled to receive the benefits of those taxes, they need to pay them or be denied all the benefits of those taxes, expected to keep up with them themselves. (e.g. if they <em>fly</em> to and from the church and don't expect police protection, they may be exempt from property taxes. As long as they use police and roads &amp;c, they need to be expected to pay like everyone else.) I don't recognize their right to private property if they don't pay their taxes, nor should anyone else; feel free to hang out, camp, et cetera on church property. It's not trespassing until you're told to leave, at least in my state<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
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<tokenext>Overall , religions should have to pay their own way.Amen to that !
Seriously though , the laws providing tax-exempt status to some religions and not to others are clearly unconstitutional in the USA ; there is no functional difference between a law which favors one or some religion [ s ] , and a law which disfavors one or some .
If churches can not collect sufficient operating funds from their members , they do not need to exist .
They are entitled to receive the benefits of those taxes , they need to pay them or be denied all the benefits of those taxes , expected to keep up with them themselves .
( e.g. if they fly to and from the church and do n't expect police protection , they may be exempt from property taxes .
As long as they use police and roads &amp;c , they need to be expected to pay like everyone else .
) I do n't recognize their right to private property if they do n't pay their taxes , nor should anyone else ; feel free to hang out , camp , et cetera on church property .
It 's not trespassing until you 're told to leave , at least in my state : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Overall, religions should have to pay their own way.Amen to that!
Seriously though, the laws providing tax-exempt status to some religions and not to others are clearly unconstitutional in the USA; there is no functional difference between a law which favors one or some religion[s], and a law which disfavors one or some.
If churches cannot collect sufficient operating funds from their members, they do not need to exist.
They are entitled to receive the benefits of those taxes, they need to pay them or be denied all the benefits of those taxes, expected to keep up with them themselves.
(e.g. if they fly to and from the church and don't expect police protection, they may be exempt from property taxes.
As long as they use police and roads &amp;c, they need to be expected to pay like everyone else.
) I don't recognize their right to private property if they don't pay their taxes, nor should anyone else; feel free to hang out, camp, et cetera on church property.
It's not trespassing until you're told to leave, at least in my state :)
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	<title>Re:A word on Xenophon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257083760000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/1170" title="gutenberg.org" rel="nofollow">nr. 1170 on Gutenberg</a> [gutenberg.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>nr .
1170 on Gutenberg [ gutenberg.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nr.
1170 on Gutenberg [gutenberg.org]</sentencetext>
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	<title>Falun gong is even worse</title>
	<author>weiqj</author>
	<datestamp>1258483920000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Sooner or later the westerns will suffer from it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sooner or later the westerns will suffer from it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sooner or later the westerns will suffer from it.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I used to be a Scientologist</title>
	<author>MoralHazard</author>
	<datestamp>1257080400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How did you get involved, originally? My first guess (having known a few scientologists) is that your parents were/are members and you were raised in it. Second guess: One of the substance abuse programs. Third guess: One of their entrepreneurial outreach programs.</p><p>Any hits? Just curious--I'm always happy to see somebody leave the CoS. it's a terrible, hurtful thing, and I've seen it ruin peoples' lives while making them feel it's their own fault.</p><p>Also, out of curiosity, have you ever been diagnosed with ADD/ADHD, or at least seen the symptoms in yourself?</p><p>Personally, I think there's substantial co-morbidity between substance abuse problems and scientology for a very specific reason: Undiagnosed (or untreated) ADHD, mostly the "inattentive" kind (which is pretty substantially under-diagnosed, since the kids aren't unruly or acting out). It tends to breed feelings of worthlessness in afflicted adults, and opens up a lot of psychological vulnerabilities. Many suffers either self-medicate (hence the substance abuse issues), and/or get attracted to cults that promise direction, motivation, and self-improvement. Scientology, in particular, has substance-abuse outreach and treatment programs, which makes a handy recruiting strategy for the larger cult.</p><p>Of all the scientologists I've met (~2 dozen), almost all of them seem like classic ADHD cases. That is partly based on observing behavior, and partly on what people have said about their life histories, and partly on what they say about their relatives (ADHD is highly inheritable). I've also met a lot (~100s) of 12-steppers (mostly AA)--the proportion of them showing ADHD symptoms or personal/family histories isn't quite as high, but it's still enormous, far more than the normal population.</p><p>(Interesting side-note: According to my psychiatrist uncle (who performed a lot of criminal insanity consultations, and is borderline ADHD, himself), American prison populations also show substantial ADD/ADHD over-representation, possibly as high as 70-80\% of all prison inmates. As an adult with ADHD, I have to suppress a chuckle at that little trifecta: Prison, addiction, or scientology--take your pick, kids, so many ways to ruin your life.)</p><p>For the general Slashdot audience: If you or your family have symptoms of ADHD or inattentive (no-H) ADHD, I'd recommend reading Nancy and John Ratey's books, and then going to see a psychiatrist, in that order. Even if you decide not to try the drugs (which can be helpful, but aren't a magic cure by themselves), there is a LOT you can do to improve your life. It's cheaper than a cult, too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How did you get involved , originally ?
My first guess ( having known a few scientologists ) is that your parents were/are members and you were raised in it .
Second guess : One of the substance abuse programs .
Third guess : One of their entrepreneurial outreach programs.Any hits ?
Just curious--I 'm always happy to see somebody leave the CoS. it 's a terrible , hurtful thing , and I 've seen it ruin peoples ' lives while making them feel it 's their own fault.Also , out of curiosity , have you ever been diagnosed with ADD/ADHD , or at least seen the symptoms in yourself ? Personally , I think there 's substantial co-morbidity between substance abuse problems and scientology for a very specific reason : Undiagnosed ( or untreated ) ADHD , mostly the " inattentive " kind ( which is pretty substantially under-diagnosed , since the kids are n't unruly or acting out ) .
It tends to breed feelings of worthlessness in afflicted adults , and opens up a lot of psychological vulnerabilities .
Many suffers either self-medicate ( hence the substance abuse issues ) , and/or get attracted to cults that promise direction , motivation , and self-improvement .
Scientology , in particular , has substance-abuse outreach and treatment programs , which makes a handy recruiting strategy for the larger cult.Of all the scientologists I 've met ( ~ 2 dozen ) , almost all of them seem like classic ADHD cases .
That is partly based on observing behavior , and partly on what people have said about their life histories , and partly on what they say about their relatives ( ADHD is highly inheritable ) .
I 've also met a lot ( ~ 100s ) of 12-steppers ( mostly AA ) --the proportion of them showing ADHD symptoms or personal/family histories is n't quite as high , but it 's still enormous , far more than the normal population .
( Interesting side-note : According to my psychiatrist uncle ( who performed a lot of criminal insanity consultations , and is borderline ADHD , himself ) , American prison populations also show substantial ADD/ADHD over-representation , possibly as high as 70-80 \ % of all prison inmates .
As an adult with ADHD , I have to suppress a chuckle at that little trifecta : Prison , addiction , or scientology--take your pick , kids , so many ways to ruin your life .
) For the general Slashdot audience : If you or your family have symptoms of ADHD or inattentive ( no-H ) ADHD , I 'd recommend reading Nancy and John Ratey 's books , and then going to see a psychiatrist , in that order .
Even if you decide not to try the drugs ( which can be helpful , but are n't a magic cure by themselves ) , there is a LOT you can do to improve your life .
It 's cheaper than a cult , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How did you get involved, originally?
My first guess (having known a few scientologists) is that your parents were/are members and you were raised in it.
Second guess: One of the substance abuse programs.
Third guess: One of their entrepreneurial outreach programs.Any hits?
Just curious--I'm always happy to see somebody leave the CoS. it's a terrible, hurtful thing, and I've seen it ruin peoples' lives while making them feel it's their own fault.Also, out of curiosity, have you ever been diagnosed with ADD/ADHD, or at least seen the symptoms in yourself?Personally, I think there's substantial co-morbidity between substance abuse problems and scientology for a very specific reason: Undiagnosed (or untreated) ADHD, mostly the "inattentive" kind (which is pretty substantially under-diagnosed, since the kids aren't unruly or acting out).
It tends to breed feelings of worthlessness in afflicted adults, and opens up a lot of psychological vulnerabilities.
Many suffers either self-medicate (hence the substance abuse issues), and/or get attracted to cults that promise direction, motivation, and self-improvement.
Scientology, in particular, has substance-abuse outreach and treatment programs, which makes a handy recruiting strategy for the larger cult.Of all the scientologists I've met (~2 dozen), almost all of them seem like classic ADHD cases.
That is partly based on observing behavior, and partly on what people have said about their life histories, and partly on what they say about their relatives (ADHD is highly inheritable).
I've also met a lot (~100s) of 12-steppers (mostly AA)--the proportion of them showing ADHD symptoms or personal/family histories isn't quite as high, but it's still enormous, far more than the normal population.
(Interesting side-note: According to my psychiatrist uncle (who performed a lot of criminal insanity consultations, and is borderline ADHD, himself), American prison populations also show substantial ADD/ADHD over-representation, possibly as high as 70-80\% of all prison inmates.
As an adult with ADHD, I have to suppress a chuckle at that little trifecta: Prison, addiction, or scientology--take your pick, kids, so many ways to ruin your life.
)For the general Slashdot audience: If you or your family have symptoms of ADHD or inattentive (no-H) ADHD, I'd recommend reading Nancy and John Ratey's books, and then going to see a psychiatrist, in that order.
Even if you decide not to try the drugs (which can be helpful, but aren't a magic cure by themselves), there is a LOT you can do to improve your life.
It's cheaper than a cult, too.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Interesting name.</title>
	<author>palegray.net</author>
	<datestamp>1258483980000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>That product really has me amped up!</htmltext>
<tokenext>That product really has me amped up !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That product really has me amped up!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140240</id>
	<title>legal precedent?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258483920000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Can we use this as a precedent to get rid of other religious organizations too?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can we use this as a precedent to get rid of other religious organizations too ?
; P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can we use this as a precedent to get rid of other religious organizations too?
;P</sentencetext>
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	<title>Contact Senator Xenophon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257067620000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Let us all spend a minute to send Senator Xenophon messages of support.

You can bet he'll be receiving unsavoury communications, let's do our best to offset this and encourage the Senator to keep at it.

His e-mail address is: senator.xenophon@aph.gov.au

Don't worry if you're not Australian; international support is just as valuable.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let us all spend a minute to send Senator Xenophon messages of support .
You can bet he 'll be receiving unsavoury communications , let 's do our best to offset this and encourage the Senator to keep at it .
His e-mail address is : senator.xenophon @ aph.gov.au Do n't worry if you 're not Australian ; international support is just as valuable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let us all spend a minute to send Senator Xenophon messages of support.
You can bet he'll be receiving unsavoury communications, let's do our best to offset this and encourage the Senator to keep at it.
His e-mail address is: senator.xenophon@aph.gov.au

Don't worry if you're not Australian; international support is just as valuable.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257080700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
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	<htmltext><i>To me, all religions are a scam.</i> <br>
<br>
Spoken like a true <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry" title="wikipedia.org">bigot</a> [wikipedia.org]. <br>
<br>
The world religions contain deep and ancient knowledge about the human condition. It doesn't take a particularly smart person to work that out -- just someone with an open mind.</htmltext>
<tokenext>To me , all religions are a scam .
Spoken like a true bigot [ wikipedia.org ] .
The world religions contain deep and ancient knowledge about the human condition .
It does n't take a particularly smart person to work that out -- just someone with an open mind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To me, all religions are a scam.
Spoken like a true bigot [wikipedia.org].
The world religions contain deep and ancient knowledge about the human condition.
It doesn't take a particularly smart person to work that out -- just someone with an open mind.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>sorak</author>
	<datestamp>1258737660000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>So are you suggesting that your government arbitrarily pick and choose which groups pay taxes?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So are you suggesting that your government arbitrarily pick and choose which groups pay taxes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So are you suggesting that your government arbitrarily pick and choose which groups pay taxes?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Interesting name.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258482720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Looks like <i>somebody</i> is definitely <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair\_Game\_(Scientology)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Fair Game</a> [wikipedia.org] now!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like somebody is definitely Fair Game [ wikipedia.org ] now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like somebody is definitely Fair Game [wikipedia.org] now!</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257076560000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Hmm what? Again and again there are allegations of *criminal* behaviour at Co$ at a large scale yet idiots keep going on prattling about how all religions are the same to them. You are either just a stupid fuck or a stupid fuck Co$ troll, what is it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm what ?
Again and again there are allegations of * criminal * behaviour at Co $ at a large scale yet idiots keep going on prattling about how all religions are the same to them .
You are either just a stupid fuck or a stupid fuck Co $ troll , what is it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm what?
Again and again there are allegations of *criminal* behaviour at Co$ at a large scale yet idiots keep going on prattling about how all religions are the same to them.
You are either just a stupid fuck or a stupid fuck Co$ troll, what is it?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257086520000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>&ldquo;The mystery of this universe, and this particular area of the universe has been, as far as its track is concerned, completely occluded.  No one has ever been able to make any breakthrough and come off with it and know what happened.  As a matter of fact, it is so occluded that if anyone tried to penetrate it as I&rsquo;m sure many have, they died.  The material involved in this sector is so vicious that it is carefully arranged to kill anyone if he discovers the exact truth of it.</p><p>So in January and February of this year I became very ill &ndash; almost lost this body &ndash; and somehow or another I brought it off and obtained the material, and was able to live through it.  I am very sure that I was the first one that ever did live through any attempt to attain that material.  This material I&rsquo;m talking about, of course, is very upper-level material, and you will forgive me if I don&rsquo;t describe it to you in very broad detail because it is very likely to make you sick too.</p><p>Now my task of the remainder of the year up until now - which is to say, the ensuing six months - was to find some way to safely bring through individuals.  It was not enough for I myself to have lived through it - other people would have to do so as well when they reach Clear and tried to move up from that point above.  And about five or six weeks ago I was finally able to make a breakthrough which brought people through this zone safely.  It is relatively easy to do now, providing one is an extremely well-trained auditor. And the band of fire can be walked through bringing one out the other side unscathed, providing he applies exact technology.  No one is in danger of colliding with this at lower levels, since it concerns the formation of the society itself in which we live.  A person is Clear on the First Dynamic.  It is necessary to become OT to be cleared on all dynamics, including that of society and that of the physical universe.</p><p>So I have also made this breakthrough. And I don&rsquo;t mind telling you it took some doing.</p><p>In all the eighteen years this has been the toughest one that I have faced. And I have faced it, so that it would not be tough for you to face when you came to it"<br>.<br>.<br>.<br>"Life is not necessarily a miserable mess, and a planetary population is not necessarily composed of madmen. It is very easy to remedy the general situation. There are many, many, many, many people out in this society who are only too glad to have us, who are only too glad to help, and who will happily shove forward. That the malady from which they suffer, is actually designed to stop or impede such a movement as ours is not of any great major consideration.  We have already mastered those things necessary to bring off the ultimate win.</p><p>And I can assure you that anyone connected with the great catastrophe of ages back has been dead almost the same length of time.  They brought about the catastrophe and they perished within six years.  We do not have any enemies except suppressive, dramatizing men, who are themselves the victims of something that happened here.</p><p>Goodbye for now.  I will see you up the line, at the other end of the Bridge.&rdquo;  --LRH, Ron&rsquo;s Journal 67</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>   The mystery of this universe , and this particular area of the universe has been , as far as its track is concerned , completely occluded .
No one has ever been able to make any breakthrough and come off with it and know what happened .
As a matter of fact , it is so occluded that if anyone tried to penetrate it as I    m sure many have , they died .
The material involved in this sector is so vicious that it is carefully arranged to kill anyone if he discovers the exact truth of it.So in January and February of this year I became very ill    almost lost this body    and somehow or another I brought it off and obtained the material , and was able to live through it .
I am very sure that I was the first one that ever did live through any attempt to attain that material .
This material I    m talking about , of course , is very upper-level material , and you will forgive me if I don    t describe it to you in very broad detail because it is very likely to make you sick too.Now my task of the remainder of the year up until now - which is to say , the ensuing six months - was to find some way to safely bring through individuals .
It was not enough for I myself to have lived through it - other people would have to do so as well when they reach Clear and tried to move up from that point above .
And about five or six weeks ago I was finally able to make a breakthrough which brought people through this zone safely .
It is relatively easy to do now , providing one is an extremely well-trained auditor .
And the band of fire can be walked through bringing one out the other side unscathed , providing he applies exact technology .
No one is in danger of colliding with this at lower levels , since it concerns the formation of the society itself in which we live .
A person is Clear on the First Dynamic .
It is necessary to become OT to be cleared on all dynamics , including that of society and that of the physical universe.So I have also made this breakthrough .
And I don    t mind telling you it took some doing.In all the eighteen years this has been the toughest one that I have faced .
And I have faced it , so that it would not be tough for you to face when you came to it " ... " Life is not necessarily a miserable mess , and a planetary population is not necessarily composed of madmen .
It is very easy to remedy the general situation .
There are many , many , many , many people out in this society who are only too glad to have us , who are only too glad to help , and who will happily shove forward .
That the malady from which they suffer , is actually designed to stop or impede such a movement as ours is not of any great major consideration .
We have already mastered those things necessary to bring off the ultimate win.And I can assure you that anyone connected with the great catastrophe of ages back has been dead almost the same length of time .
They brought about the catastrophe and they perished within six years .
We do not have any enemies except suppressive , dramatizing men , who are themselves the victims of something that happened here.Goodbye for now .
I will see you up the line , at the other end of the Bridge.    --LRH , Ron    s Journal 67</tokentext>
<sentencetext>“The mystery of this universe, and this particular area of the universe has been, as far as its track is concerned, completely occluded.
No one has ever been able to make any breakthrough and come off with it and know what happened.
As a matter of fact, it is so occluded that if anyone tried to penetrate it as I’m sure many have, they died.
The material involved in this sector is so vicious that it is carefully arranged to kill anyone if he discovers the exact truth of it.So in January and February of this year I became very ill – almost lost this body – and somehow or another I brought it off and obtained the material, and was able to live through it.
I am very sure that I was the first one that ever did live through any attempt to attain that material.
This material I’m talking about, of course, is very upper-level material, and you will forgive me if I don’t describe it to you in very broad detail because it is very likely to make you sick too.Now my task of the remainder of the year up until now - which is to say, the ensuing six months - was to find some way to safely bring through individuals.
It was not enough for I myself to have lived through it - other people would have to do so as well when they reach Clear and tried to move up from that point above.
And about five or six weeks ago I was finally able to make a breakthrough which brought people through this zone safely.
It is relatively easy to do now, providing one is an extremely well-trained auditor.
And the band of fire can be walked through bringing one out the other side unscathed, providing he applies exact technology.
No one is in danger of colliding with this at lower levels, since it concerns the formation of the society itself in which we live.
A person is Clear on the First Dynamic.
It is necessary to become OT to be cleared on all dynamics, including that of society and that of the physical universe.So I have also made this breakthrough.
And I don’t mind telling you it took some doing.In all the eighteen years this has been the toughest one that I have faced.
And I have faced it, so that it would not be tough for you to face when you came to it"..."Life is not necessarily a miserable mess, and a planetary population is not necessarily composed of madmen.
It is very easy to remedy the general situation.
There are many, many, many, many people out in this society who are only too glad to have us, who are only too glad to help, and who will happily shove forward.
That the malady from which they suffer, is actually designed to stop or impede such a movement as ours is not of any great major consideration.
We have already mastered those things necessary to bring off the ultimate win.And I can assure you that anyone connected with the great catastrophe of ages back has been dead almost the same length of time.
They brought about the catastrophe and they perished within six years.
We do not have any enemies except suppressive, dramatizing men, who are themselves the victims of something that happened here.Goodbye for now.
I will see you up the line, at the other end of the Bridge.”  --LRH, Ron’s Journal 67</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30143060</id>
	<title>Why the censorship icon?</title>
	<author>DaveV1.0</author>
	<datestamp>1257089280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Scientology is a criminal organization with a history of stalking and harassment, as well allegations of burglary, intimidation, kidnapping, bribery, attacks on the U.S. government (specifically the FBI), and murder both direct and through neglect.</p><p>Scientology's own documents show they believe in terrorizing and murdering anyone who opposed them.</p><p>It should be perfectly legal to use Scientology's own "auditing process R2-45" on every single member.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Scientology is a criminal organization with a history of stalking and harassment , as well allegations of burglary , intimidation , kidnapping , bribery , attacks on the U.S. government ( specifically the FBI ) , and murder both direct and through neglect.Scientology 's own documents show they believe in terrorizing and murdering anyone who opposed them.It should be perfectly legal to use Scientology 's own " auditing process R2-45 " on every single member .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Scientology is a criminal organization with a history of stalking and harassment, as well allegations of burglary, intimidation, kidnapping, bribery, attacks on the U.S. government (specifically the FBI), and murder both direct and through neglect.Scientology's own documents show they believe in terrorizing and murdering anyone who opposed them.It should be perfectly legal to use Scientology's own "auditing process R2-45" on every single member.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30152284</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257089220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>abortion is a good thing? your an idiot, gays are freeks of nature.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>abortion is a good thing ?
your an idiot , gays are freeks of nature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>abortion is a good thing?
your an idiot, gays are freeks of nature.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30142376</id>
	<title>There's difference between CoS and other religions</title>
	<author>Loosifur</author>
	<datestamp>1257085020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whenever there's something about CoS it seems like there's a crowd of people who chime in with, "But ALL religions are corrupt, criminal, and commercial." Which inevitably leads to the conclusion that, if you happen to not have a problem with religion in general, you must accept anything which calls itself a religion, or become an atheist.</p><p>Here's the problem. We'll put aside my Pollyanna-esque belief that most of the time religions really are about a genuine and sincere effort to understand the metaphysical aspects of existence. Yes, the Catholic church is responsible for suppression of science and learning, set up the "indulgence" system, and a host of other sins. Keep in mind, however, that the Catholic church was the last vestige of Roman-style socio-political organization after the fall of the empire. While the West dissolved, the Catholic church was the closest thing to a stable government that was able to provide legitimacy to regional and local rulers, preserve some measure of learning, and mitigate internal conflict. Not until the Treaty of Westphalia does the modern concept of the state enter into Western thinking, and that was well after the Inquisition's height. So, yes, the Catholic church has done some nasty things, but compare it to any other nation-state if you want an appropriate ethical comparison.</p><p>CoS, on the other hand, actively seeks to defraud individuals through a deliberate pyramid-scheme. It is felonious by any legal standards, and does no charitable work to speak of. Churches, synagogues, and mosques routinely collect money from followers as a sign of devotion and as a means of maintaining themselves (literally, as in a "building fund").</p><p>Some Slashdotters appear to be confused as to the concept of nonprofit. A nonprofit organization is allowed to raise money through sales and donations in order to pay it's employees and maintain itself; it only has to show that, at the end of the day, it doesn't have any money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whenever there 's something about CoS it seems like there 's a crowd of people who chime in with , " But ALL religions are corrupt , criminal , and commercial .
" Which inevitably leads to the conclusion that , if you happen to not have a problem with religion in general , you must accept anything which calls itself a religion , or become an atheist.Here 's the problem .
We 'll put aside my Pollyanna-esque belief that most of the time religions really are about a genuine and sincere effort to understand the metaphysical aspects of existence .
Yes , the Catholic church is responsible for suppression of science and learning , set up the " indulgence " system , and a host of other sins .
Keep in mind , however , that the Catholic church was the last vestige of Roman-style socio-political organization after the fall of the empire .
While the West dissolved , the Catholic church was the closest thing to a stable government that was able to provide legitimacy to regional and local rulers , preserve some measure of learning , and mitigate internal conflict .
Not until the Treaty of Westphalia does the modern concept of the state enter into Western thinking , and that was well after the Inquisition 's height .
So , yes , the Catholic church has done some nasty things , but compare it to any other nation-state if you want an appropriate ethical comparison.CoS , on the other hand , actively seeks to defraud individuals through a deliberate pyramid-scheme .
It is felonious by any legal standards , and does no charitable work to speak of .
Churches , synagogues , and mosques routinely collect money from followers as a sign of devotion and as a means of maintaining themselves ( literally , as in a " building fund " ) .Some Slashdotters appear to be confused as to the concept of nonprofit .
A nonprofit organization is allowed to raise money through sales and donations in order to pay it 's employees and maintain itself ; it only has to show that , at the end of the day , it does n't have any money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whenever there's something about CoS it seems like there's a crowd of people who chime in with, "But ALL religions are corrupt, criminal, and commercial.
" Which inevitably leads to the conclusion that, if you happen to not have a problem with religion in general, you must accept anything which calls itself a religion, or become an atheist.Here's the problem.
We'll put aside my Pollyanna-esque belief that most of the time religions really are about a genuine and sincere effort to understand the metaphysical aspects of existence.
Yes, the Catholic church is responsible for suppression of science and learning, set up the "indulgence" system, and a host of other sins.
Keep in mind, however, that the Catholic church was the last vestige of Roman-style socio-political organization after the fall of the empire.
While the West dissolved, the Catholic church was the closest thing to a stable government that was able to provide legitimacy to regional and local rulers, preserve some measure of learning, and mitigate internal conflict.
Not until the Treaty of Westphalia does the modern concept of the state enter into Western thinking, and that was well after the Inquisition's height.
So, yes, the Catholic church has done some nasty things, but compare it to any other nation-state if you want an appropriate ethical comparison.CoS, on the other hand, actively seeks to defraud individuals through a deliberate pyramid-scheme.
It is felonious by any legal standards, and does no charitable work to speak of.
Churches, synagogues, and mosques routinely collect money from followers as a sign of devotion and as a means of maintaining themselves (literally, as in a "building fund").Some Slashdotters appear to be confused as to the concept of nonprofit.
A nonprofit organization is allowed to raise money through sales and donations in order to pay it's employees and maintain itself; it only has to show that, at the end of the day, it doesn't have any money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140686</id>
	<title>Nooooo!</title>
	<author>martin-boundary</author>
	<datestamp>1257106500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nooooo! Somebody please stop the Australians before the Americans wake up, or else Tom Cruise is going to jump up and down on the sofa again!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nooooo !
Somebody please stop the Australians before the Americans wake up , or else Tom Cruise is going to jump up and down on the sofa again !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nooooo!
Somebody please stop the Australians before the Americans wake up, or else Tom Cruise is going to jump up and down on the sofa again!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30144884</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting name.</title>
	<author>IronSilk</author>
	<datestamp>1257096120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Xeno = foreign <p>
phon = sound </p><p>

So, he must be speaking a foreign language. Australian, I guess. Fair dinkum!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Xeno = foreign phon = sound So , he must be speaking a foreign language .
Australian , I guess .
Fair dinkum !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Xeno = foreign 
phon = sound 

So, he must be speaking a foreign language.
Australian, I guess.
Fair dinkum!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30147792</id>
	<title>Re:Zen Buddhism/Hebrew prophets</title>
	<author>steelfood</author>
	<datestamp>1257108900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Chen/Zen Buddhism takes a person's desire for power, and turns it inward. When people want power, they usually want it over others.</p><p>Chen Buddhism tries to reflect that inward, to change the focus so that instead of power over others, it's power over oneself. The purpose of all of its teachings is to eventually acquire power over one's own actions, state of mind, and ultimately over one's existence.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Chen/Zen Buddhism takes a person 's desire for power , and turns it inward .
When people want power , they usually want it over others.Chen Buddhism tries to reflect that inward , to change the focus so that instead of power over others , it 's power over oneself .
The purpose of all of its teachings is to eventually acquire power over one 's own actions , state of mind , and ultimately over one 's existence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Chen/Zen Buddhism takes a person's desire for power, and turns it inward.
When people want power, they usually want it over others.Chen Buddhism tries to reflect that inward, to change the focus so that instead of power over others, it's power over oneself.
The purpose of all of its teachings is to eventually acquire power over one's own actions, state of mind, and ultimately over one's existence.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30147284</id>
	<title>Re:On wikipedia right now...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257106320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The fact that publically criticizing the church of scientology labels one as having large testicles and causes others to wonder how long before the literal or character assassination attempts begin seems like pretty clear evidence that the church of scientology is in truth a criminal organization, or at the very least, an organization that uses terrorism to further its interests.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The fact that publically criticizing the church of scientology labels one as having large testicles and causes others to wonder how long before the literal or character assassination attempts begin seems like pretty clear evidence that the church of scientology is in truth a criminal organization , or at the very least , an organization that uses terrorism to further its interests .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fact that publically criticizing the church of scientology labels one as having large testicles and causes others to wonder how long before the literal or character assassination attempts begin seems like pretty clear evidence that the church of scientology is in truth a criminal organization, or at the very least, an organization that uses terrorism to further its interests.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30139886</id>
	<title>Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258481040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>To me, all religions are a scam. Some have been around longer than others and thus emanate a sense of legitimacy but they're mostly cults with a God that we offer our prayers and money to in return for a hope of a better life.<br> <br>

Religions come and go, their Gods are offered gold, placed upon altars and have great building and churches erected in their names - and yet, people die of violence, starvation, and famine. Their Gods grow weak and frail, their subjects grow old and a new religion eventually emerges and takes its place as the new "true" religion. A sad cycle indeed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>To me , all religions are a scam .
Some have been around longer than others and thus emanate a sense of legitimacy but they 're mostly cults with a God that we offer our prayers and money to in return for a hope of a better life .
Religions come and go , their Gods are offered gold , placed upon altars and have great building and churches erected in their names - and yet , people die of violence , starvation , and famine .
Their Gods grow weak and frail , their subjects grow old and a new religion eventually emerges and takes its place as the new " true " religion .
A sad cycle indeed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To me, all religions are a scam.
Some have been around longer than others and thus emanate a sense of legitimacy but they're mostly cults with a God that we offer our prayers and money to in return for a hope of a better life.
Religions come and go, their Gods are offered gold, placed upon altars and have great building and churches erected in their names - and yet, people die of violence, starvation, and famine.
Their Gods grow weak and frail, their subjects grow old and a new religion eventually emerges and takes its place as the new "true" religion.
A sad cycle indeed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140138</id>
	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>electrons\_are\_brave</author>
	<datestamp>1258483020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's opened up a good debate in Australia - should any religion be tax exempt? People here are mentioning other religions which are corrupt (Catholoic Priests and child abuse is never our of the media) or which operate commercial activities but get an unfair competitive advantage because they don't pay tax (Hill Song and the Seventh Day Adventists are being mentioned). <p>

Lionel Murphy (A High Court Judge) was responsible for campaigning to get Scientology recognised as a religion in Australia. He said it wasn't government's job to determine which religious beliefs are worthy of recognition and which are not. </p><p>

Overall, religions should have to pay their own way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's opened up a good debate in Australia - should any religion be tax exempt ?
People here are mentioning other religions which are corrupt ( Catholoic Priests and child abuse is never our of the media ) or which operate commercial activities but get an unfair competitive advantage because they do n't pay tax ( Hill Song and the Seventh Day Adventists are being mentioned ) .
Lionel Murphy ( A High Court Judge ) was responsible for campaigning to get Scientology recognised as a religion in Australia .
He said it was n't government 's job to determine which religious beliefs are worthy of recognition and which are not .
Overall , religions should have to pay their own way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's opened up a good debate in Australia - should any religion be tax exempt?
People here are mentioning other religions which are corrupt (Catholoic Priests and child abuse is never our of the media) or which operate commercial activities but get an unfair competitive advantage because they don't pay tax (Hill Song and the Seventh Day Adventists are being mentioned).
Lionel Murphy (A High Court Judge) was responsible for campaigning to get Scientology recognised as a religion in Australia.
He said it wasn't government's job to determine which religious beliefs are worthy of recognition and which are not.
Overall, religions should have to pay their own way.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30145622</id>
	<title>Re:Xenophon and Socrates</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257099060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"e-meters" are almost as dumb as the bullet proof pants that the Mormons try and pedal.</p></div><p>Ah, ignorance and misunderstanding, just what I have come to expect from<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" e-meters " are almost as dumb as the bullet proof pants that the Mormons try and pedal.Ah , ignorance and misunderstanding , just what I have come to expect from / .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"e-meters" are almost as dumb as the bullet proof pants that the Mormons try and pedal.Ah, ignorance and misunderstanding, just what I have come to expect from /.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30142148</id>
	<title>Re:What a difference 2000 years makes!</title>
	<author>dkleinsc</author>
	<datestamp>1257082800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's the fundamental difference between Scientology (and a lot of dangerous cults) and real religions (established or otherwise): Walk up to a member of the clergy or lay leader, and ask them the fundamental tenants of what they believe. Any real religion will rattle off a few tenants, point you to some literature and/or holy books, explain the nature of their rituals and public services, and so forth. The point is to spread the ideas as much as possible, and they'll welcome the opportunity to do so. This is true whether you're talking to a Christian minister, a Jewish rabbi, a Muslim imam, a Voudoun priest, a Wiccan priestess, or Ivan Stang of the Church of the SubGenius.</p><p>With a cult, if you walk up to the clergy and lay leader, they'll change the discussion from an evaluation of their faith to an evaluation of you. For Scientologists, that's what the initial auditing process is about. Instead of giving you the information you need to decide whether the faith is worthy of your support, they collect information to decide whether you are worthy of the faith. And since people don't like to see themselves as failures (as a general rule), many folks will react to this by trying to prove themselves worthy. And in the often complex process of proving themselves worthy, they will commit themselves more and more fully to the cult, without really knowing what they're getting into.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's the fundamental difference between Scientology ( and a lot of dangerous cults ) and real religions ( established or otherwise ) : Walk up to a member of the clergy or lay leader , and ask them the fundamental tenants of what they believe .
Any real religion will rattle off a few tenants , point you to some literature and/or holy books , explain the nature of their rituals and public services , and so forth .
The point is to spread the ideas as much as possible , and they 'll welcome the opportunity to do so .
This is true whether you 're talking to a Christian minister , a Jewish rabbi , a Muslim imam , a Voudoun priest , a Wiccan priestess , or Ivan Stang of the Church of the SubGenius.With a cult , if you walk up to the clergy and lay leader , they 'll change the discussion from an evaluation of their faith to an evaluation of you .
For Scientologists , that 's what the initial auditing process is about .
Instead of giving you the information you need to decide whether the faith is worthy of your support , they collect information to decide whether you are worthy of the faith .
And since people do n't like to see themselves as failures ( as a general rule ) , many folks will react to this by trying to prove themselves worthy .
And in the often complex process of proving themselves worthy , they will commit themselves more and more fully to the cult , without really knowing what they 're getting into .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's the fundamental difference between Scientology (and a lot of dangerous cults) and real religions (established or otherwise): Walk up to a member of the clergy or lay leader, and ask them the fundamental tenants of what they believe.
Any real religion will rattle off a few tenants, point you to some literature and/or holy books, explain the nature of their rituals and public services, and so forth.
The point is to spread the ideas as much as possible, and they'll welcome the opportunity to do so.
This is true whether you're talking to a Christian minister, a Jewish rabbi, a Muslim imam, a Voudoun priest, a Wiccan priestess, or Ivan Stang of the Church of the SubGenius.With a cult, if you walk up to the clergy and lay leader, they'll change the discussion from an evaluation of their faith to an evaluation of you.
For Scientologists, that's what the initial auditing process is about.
Instead of giving you the information you need to decide whether the faith is worthy of your support, they collect information to decide whether you are worthy of the faith.
And since people don't like to see themselves as failures (as a general rule), many folks will react to this by trying to prove themselves worthy.
And in the often complex process of proving themselves worthy, they will commit themselves more and more fully to the cult, without really knowing what they're getting into.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140786</id>
	<title>Now</title>
	<author>chucklebutte</author>
	<datestamp>1257107700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>we need to get rid of the rest of the religions and we might just save humanity.

Mystic bearded men that live in the clouds and the stars makes for a great bedtime story. But to blindly believe that this spooky man in the clouds made everyone and everything is a serious crutch to whatever serious mental problems you suffer from. No one can argue with me either, anyone hearing voices or talking to someone that isnt there is a serious sign of fucking crazy, and if think im full of shit I think you should seek professional help.

God doesnt exists, religion is a sham and a hipocracy to mankind, no its an insult to mankind.

Get a grip you dipshits, while you sit and pray with your thumbs up your asses and kill in the name of a phony deity our civilization could have progressed to a point beyond the limits of our imagination. Imagine the progress we could have made if it wasnt for god.

I hope I live to a day when religion is banned and we can finally move on as a society.</htmltext>
<tokenext>we need to get rid of the rest of the religions and we might just save humanity .
Mystic bearded men that live in the clouds and the stars makes for a great bedtime story .
But to blindly believe that this spooky man in the clouds made everyone and everything is a serious crutch to whatever serious mental problems you suffer from .
No one can argue with me either , anyone hearing voices or talking to someone that isnt there is a serious sign of fucking crazy , and if think im full of shit I think you should seek professional help .
God doesnt exists , religion is a sham and a hipocracy to mankind , no its an insult to mankind .
Get a grip you dipshits , while you sit and pray with your thumbs up your asses and kill in the name of a phony deity our civilization could have progressed to a point beyond the limits of our imagination .
Imagine the progress we could have made if it wasnt for god .
I hope I live to a day when religion is banned and we can finally move on as a society .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>we need to get rid of the rest of the religions and we might just save humanity.
Mystic bearded men that live in the clouds and the stars makes for a great bedtime story.
But to blindly believe that this spooky man in the clouds made everyone and everything is a serious crutch to whatever serious mental problems you suffer from.
No one can argue with me either, anyone hearing voices or talking to someone that isnt there is a serious sign of fucking crazy, and if think im full of shit I think you should seek professional help.
God doesnt exists, religion is a sham and a hipocracy to mankind, no its an insult to mankind.
Get a grip you dipshits, while you sit and pray with your thumbs up your asses and kill in the name of a phony deity our civilization could have progressed to a point beyond the limits of our imagination.
Imagine the progress we could have made if it wasnt for god.
I hope I live to a day when religion is banned and we can finally move on as a society.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30145828</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257100080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sorry, but I can't agree with your description of abortion as a "good thing". Contraceptives, sure, as they reduce unwanted pregnancies and that sort of thing. Gay rights, sure, although I am of the opinion that artificially legitimizing relationships with no real societal purpose serves... no real societal purpose, but at least it makes gay couples feel warm and fuzzy about their relationships being recognized. Abortion, however, is the result of at best poor planning and at worst sexual assault, and happens primarily when the unintentionally pregnant woman doesn't WANT to put up with the pregnancy for whatever reason, and chooses to end the life-in-progress forming as part of the pregnancy process.<br>
&nbsp; <br>This is the point at which pedants start talking about whether it's "really a human life" before birth, or before the first heartbeat, or before the first (insert arbitrary point here), but that's really beside the point. The point is that a person made a conscious decision to end a developing life for (generally) her own convenience, and I think that's unilaterally a bad thing. Your choice to prioritize the convenience of the woman over the LIFE of the unborn child doesn't make it a 'good thing'.<br>
&nbsp; <br>Just my 2 cents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry , but I ca n't agree with your description of abortion as a " good thing " .
Contraceptives , sure , as they reduce unwanted pregnancies and that sort of thing .
Gay rights , sure , although I am of the opinion that artificially legitimizing relationships with no real societal purpose serves... no real societal purpose , but at least it makes gay couples feel warm and fuzzy about their relationships being recognized .
Abortion , however , is the result of at best poor planning and at worst sexual assault , and happens primarily when the unintentionally pregnant woman does n't WANT to put up with the pregnancy for whatever reason , and chooses to end the life-in-progress forming as part of the pregnancy process .
  This is the point at which pedants start talking about whether it 's " really a human life " before birth , or before the first heartbeat , or before the first ( insert arbitrary point here ) , but that 's really beside the point .
The point is that a person made a conscious decision to end a developing life for ( generally ) her own convenience , and I think that 's unilaterally a bad thing .
Your choice to prioritize the convenience of the woman over the LIFE of the unborn child does n't make it a 'good thing' .
  Just my 2 cents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry, but I can't agree with your description of abortion as a "good thing".
Contraceptives, sure, as they reduce unwanted pregnancies and that sort of thing.
Gay rights, sure, although I am of the opinion that artificially legitimizing relationships with no real societal purpose serves... no real societal purpose, but at least it makes gay couples feel warm and fuzzy about their relationships being recognized.
Abortion, however, is the result of at best poor planning and at worst sexual assault, and happens primarily when the unintentionally pregnant woman doesn't WANT to put up with the pregnancy for whatever reason, and chooses to end the life-in-progress forming as part of the pregnancy process.
  This is the point at which pedants start talking about whether it's "really a human life" before birth, or before the first heartbeat, or before the first (insert arbitrary point here), but that's really beside the point.
The point is that a person made a conscious decision to end a developing life for (generally) her own convenience, and I think that's unilaterally a bad thing.
Your choice to prioritize the convenience of the woman over the LIFE of the unborn child doesn't make it a 'good thing'.
  Just my 2 cents.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141132</id>
	<title>It should even have been dissolved here in France</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257069240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>It should have been dissolved in France but what happened instead is really shameful. The judge was probably going to order the dissolution of the scientology, considered culprit of being a criminal organization of fraudulent aim (that means that money was considered their driving motivation). But two weeks before the verdict (a <i>perfect</i> synchronization). Our parliament made a "mistake". Inside a huge corpus of law modification (aimed at simplifying the laws regarding buisnesses and companies), someone "inadvertently" put a law removing the dissolution as a possible verdict for fraud. Nobody was able to point out the person who put this amendment (how comes !?) and everybody said it was a mistake and they would correct it with a new law. Unfortunately, the verdict was due two weeks later and instead of dissolution, the scientology got a record fine. <br> <br>
They are loosing adepts, but they still have people in the higher spheres...</htmltext>
<tokenext>It should have been dissolved in France but what happened instead is really shameful .
The judge was probably going to order the dissolution of the scientology , considered culprit of being a criminal organization of fraudulent aim ( that means that money was considered their driving motivation ) .
But two weeks before the verdict ( a perfect synchronization ) .
Our parliament made a " mistake " .
Inside a huge corpus of law modification ( aimed at simplifying the laws regarding buisnesses and companies ) , someone " inadvertently " put a law removing the dissolution as a possible verdict for fraud .
Nobody was able to point out the person who put this amendment ( how comes ! ?
) and everybody said it was a mistake and they would correct it with a new law .
Unfortunately , the verdict was due two weeks later and instead of dissolution , the scientology got a record fine .
They are loosing adepts , but they still have people in the higher spheres.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It should have been dissolved in France but what happened instead is really shameful.
The judge was probably going to order the dissolution of the scientology, considered culprit of being a criminal organization of fraudulent aim (that means that money was considered their driving motivation).
But two weeks before the verdict (a perfect synchronization).
Our parliament made a "mistake".
Inside a huge corpus of law modification (aimed at simplifying the laws regarding buisnesses and companies), someone "inadvertently" put a law removing the dissolution as a possible verdict for fraud.
Nobody was able to point out the person who put this amendment (how comes !?
) and everybody said it was a mistake and they would correct it with a new law.
Unfortunately, the verdict was due two weeks later and instead of dissolution, the scientology got a record fine.
They are loosing adepts, but they still have people in the higher spheres...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141062</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting name.</title>
	<author>xtracto</author>
	<datestamp>1257068280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Portable e-meters!</p><p>Does this means that I will be able to measure my thetans wherever I am?</p><p>What an age we live in!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Portable e-meters ! Does this means that I will be able to measure my thetans wherever I am ? What an age we live in !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Portable e-meters!Does this means that I will be able to measure my thetans wherever I am?What an age we live in!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30139996</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258481820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Religions give followers a sense of belonging and an answer to questions like who made the universe and what happens when I die. They also give a group of people a sense of belonging.
<br>It's just a pity when religions get in the way of our society (abortion, contraceptives and gay rights are good things) and when people take them too far (terrorism). Also when they exist solely for monetary gain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Religions give followers a sense of belonging and an answer to questions like who made the universe and what happens when I die .
They also give a group of people a sense of belonging .
It 's just a pity when religions get in the way of our society ( abortion , contraceptives and gay rights are good things ) and when people take them too far ( terrorism ) .
Also when they exist solely for monetary gain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Religions give followers a sense of belonging and an answer to questions like who made the universe and what happens when I die.
They also give a group of people a sense of belonging.
It's just a pity when religions get in the way of our society (abortion, contraceptives and gay rights are good things) and when people take them too far (terrorism).
Also when they exist solely for monetary gain.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30146884</id>
	<title>SP</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257104340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Xenophon would be considered an S.P. by the church I believe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Xenophon would be considered an S.P .
by the church I believe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Xenophon would be considered an S.P.
by the church I believe.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140326</id>
	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>Capsaicin</author>
	<datestamp>1258484820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>Lionel Murphy (A High Court Judge) was responsible for <b>campaigning</b> to get Scientology recognised as a religion in Australia.</i> </p><p>Campaigning?! I'm calling <i>bullshit</i> on that one mate.  (Though I'm open to change my mind if you can provide some evidence to back that claim up.)  True he sat on the court that decided the <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/HCA/1983/40.html" title="austlii.edu.au">"Scientology Case"</a> [austlii.edu.au] but his wasn't even the leading judgment.  I think a little quote from his Honour will serve to enlighten as to his attitude towards religion and towards its tax exempt status.  Responding to the argument that the "commercial nature" of Scientology showed it wasn't "religious" in nature, he wrote:</p><p><div class="quote"><p> Most organized religions have been riddled with commercialism, this being an integral part of the drive by their leaders for social authority and power (in conformity with the "iron law of oligarchy"). The amassing of wealth by organized religions often means that the leaders live richly (sometimes in palaces) even though many of the believers live in poverty. Many religions have been notorious for corrupt trafficking in relics, other sacred objects, and religious offices, as well as for condoning "sin" even in advance, for money. The great organized religions are big business. They engage in large scale real estate investment, money-dealing and other commercial ventures. In country after country, religious tax exemption has led to enormous wealth for religious bodies, presenting severe social problems.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Commercialism is so characteristic of organized religion that it is absurd to regard it as disqualifying.</p></div><p>If anything Murphy J was "campaigning" to get rid of the tax exempt status for religions.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lionel Murphy ( A High Court Judge ) was responsible for campaigning to get Scientology recognised as a religion in Australia .
Campaigning ? ! I 'm calling bullshit on that one mate .
( Though I 'm open to change my mind if you can provide some evidence to back that claim up .
) True he sat on the court that decided the " Scientology Case " [ austlii.edu.au ] but his was n't even the leading judgment .
I think a little quote from his Honour will serve to enlighten as to his attitude towards religion and towards its tax exempt status .
Responding to the argument that the " commercial nature " of Scientology showed it was n't " religious " in nature , he wrote : Most organized religions have been riddled with commercialism , this being an integral part of the drive by their leaders for social authority and power ( in conformity with the " iron law of oligarchy " ) .
The amassing of wealth by organized religions often means that the leaders live richly ( sometimes in palaces ) even though many of the believers live in poverty .
Many religions have been notorious for corrupt trafficking in relics , other sacred objects , and religious offices , as well as for condoning " sin " even in advance , for money .
The great organized religions are big business .
They engage in large scale real estate investment , money-dealing and other commercial ventures .
In country after country , religious tax exemption has led to enormous wealth for religious bodies , presenting severe social problems .
... Commercialism is so characteristic of organized religion that it is absurd to regard it as disqualifying.If anything Murphy J was " campaigning " to get rid of the tax exempt status for religions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Lionel Murphy (A High Court Judge) was responsible for campaigning to get Scientology recognised as a religion in Australia.
Campaigning?! I'm calling bullshit on that one mate.
(Though I'm open to change my mind if you can provide some evidence to back that claim up.
)  True he sat on the court that decided the "Scientology Case" [austlii.edu.au] but his wasn't even the leading judgment.
I think a little quote from his Honour will serve to enlighten as to his attitude towards religion and towards its tax exempt status.
Responding to the argument that the "commercial nature" of Scientology showed it wasn't "religious" in nature, he wrote: Most organized religions have been riddled with commercialism, this being an integral part of the drive by their leaders for social authority and power (in conformity with the "iron law of oligarchy").
The amassing of wealth by organized religions often means that the leaders live richly (sometimes in palaces) even though many of the believers live in poverty.
Many religions have been notorious for corrupt trafficking in relics, other sacred objects, and religious offices, as well as for condoning "sin" even in advance, for money.
The great organized religions are big business.
They engage in large scale real estate investment, money-dealing and other commercial ventures.
In country after country, religious tax exemption has led to enormous wealth for religious bodies, presenting severe social problems.
... Commercialism is so characteristic of organized religion that it is absurd to regard it as disqualifying.If anything Murphy J was "campaigning" to get rid of the tax exempt status for religions.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30150590</id>
	<title>Re:Xenophon? Sounds Foreign</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257078660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nai, enai.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nai , enai .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nai, enai.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30144208</id>
	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>AlamedaStone</author>
	<datestamp>1257093540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Scientology is no more a religeon than "Jedi"</p></div><p>I find your lack of faith... disturbing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Scientology is no more a religeon than " Jedi " I find your lack of faith... disturbing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Scientology is no more a religeon than "Jedi"I find your lack of faith... disturbing.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140622</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting name.</title>
	<author>mrmeval</author>
	<datestamp>1257105660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He'll be doing a forced march if he's not careful. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabasis\_(Xenophon)" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabasis\_(Xenophon)</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He 'll be doing a forced march if he 's not careful .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabasis \ _ ( Xenophon ) [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He'll be doing a forced march if he's not careful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabasis\_(Xenophon) [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30142242</id>
	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>countach</author>
	<datestamp>1257083820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hillsong and and "the church down the road" are probably exactly the same. The members throw money in the hat, and it pays the wages and rent and activities of the group. Hillsong have a lot more people on the payroll and rent, but no real difference. Anyway, since all the money goes on wages, more or less, at the end of the day, there is no "profit" because there are no shareholders. Sooner or later all money is dispersed. If it is on wages, then the person getting the money is taxed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hillsong and and " the church down the road " are probably exactly the same .
The members throw money in the hat , and it pays the wages and rent and activities of the group .
Hillsong have a lot more people on the payroll and rent , but no real difference .
Anyway , since all the money goes on wages , more or less , at the end of the day , there is no " profit " because there are no shareholders .
Sooner or later all money is dispersed .
If it is on wages , then the person getting the money is taxed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hillsong and and "the church down the road" are probably exactly the same.
The members throw money in the hat, and it pays the wages and rent and activities of the group.
Hillsong have a lot more people on the payroll and rent, but no real difference.
Anyway, since all the money goes on wages, more or less, at the end of the day, there is no "profit" because there are no shareholders.
Sooner or later all money is dispersed.
If it is on wages, then the person getting the money is taxed.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141422</id>
	<title>Re:What a difference 2000 years makes!</title>
	<author>Angostura</author>
	<datestamp>1257073620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From an outsider's perspective (atheist) it is a mistake to think that scientology isn't any more corrupt or evil than any other organized religion in the world. Not all religions have specific tenets requiring you to part with large amounts of money to simply read their 'scriptures'. Not all religions specifically attempt to stop members from contacting their families who are non-believers. Not all religions embark on well funded, well organised and effective smear campaigns against ex members. Not all religions have private internment camps for members who are being wayward.</p><p>To think that Scientology is on a par with the average world religion is a relativist  mistake.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From an outsider 's perspective ( atheist ) it is a mistake to think that scientology is n't any more corrupt or evil than any other organized religion in the world .
Not all religions have specific tenets requiring you to part with large amounts of money to simply read their 'scriptures' .
Not all religions specifically attempt to stop members from contacting their families who are non-believers .
Not all religions embark on well funded , well organised and effective smear campaigns against ex members .
Not all religions have private internment camps for members who are being wayward.To think that Scientology is on a par with the average world religion is a relativist mistake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From an outsider's perspective (atheist) it is a mistake to think that scientology isn't any more corrupt or evil than any other organized religion in the world.
Not all religions have specific tenets requiring you to part with large amounts of money to simply read their 'scriptures'.
Not all religions specifically attempt to stop members from contacting their families who are non-believers.
Not all religions embark on well funded, well organised and effective smear campaigns against ex members.
Not all religions have private internment camps for members who are being wayward.To think that Scientology is on a par with the average world religion is a relativist  mistake.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140258</id>
	<title>Re:tax shelter</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258484100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What part of what the parent said is untrue?  The COS is a known tax shelter and exists for the purpose of enriching the few individuals at the top.<br>L. Hubbard himself essentially said that religion was a great way to make money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What part of what the parent said is untrue ?
The COS is a known tax shelter and exists for the purpose of enriching the few individuals at the top.L .
Hubbard himself essentially said that religion was a great way to make money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What part of what the parent said is untrue?
The COS is a known tax shelter and exists for the purpose of enriching the few individuals at the top.L.
Hubbard himself essentially said that religion was a great way to make money.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140916</id>
	<title>Re:86 the Scientology crap</title>
	<author>Ash-Fox</author>
	<datestamp>1257066180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>This is Slashdot... News for Nerds... Stuff that Matters.</p><p>Nobody cares about Scientology. Lets keep this a tech site. We'll leave the Scientology stuff to 4chan (not that they want it either).</p></div></blockquote><p>Slashdot doing articles about Scientology predates 4chan's existence.</p><p>Scientology has been known for calling up on censorship and claiming copyright theft since the 90s. They got articles pulled from usenet servers by issuing false cancel messages on insecure nodes, DDoSed servers to prevent information from being spread, threaten internet anonymity etc.</p><p>Seems like something "nerds" would rage on to me and certain articles seem relevant to Slashdot in my opinion.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is Slashdot... News for Nerds... Stuff that Matters.Nobody cares about Scientology .
Lets keep this a tech site .
We 'll leave the Scientology stuff to 4chan ( not that they want it either ) .Slashdot doing articles about Scientology predates 4chan 's existence.Scientology has been known for calling up on censorship and claiming copyright theft since the 90s .
They got articles pulled from usenet servers by issuing false cancel messages on insecure nodes , DDoSed servers to prevent information from being spread , threaten internet anonymity etc.Seems like something " nerds " would rage on to me and certain articles seem relevant to Slashdot in my opinion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is Slashdot... News for Nerds... Stuff that Matters.Nobody cares about Scientology.
Lets keep this a tech site.
We'll leave the Scientology stuff to 4chan (not that they want it either).Slashdot doing articles about Scientology predates 4chan's existence.Scientology has been known for calling up on censorship and claiming copyright theft since the 90s.
They got articles pulled from usenet servers by issuing false cancel messages on insecure nodes, DDoSed servers to prevent information from being spread, threaten internet anonymity etc.Seems like something "nerds" would rage on to me and certain articles seem relevant to Slashdot in my opinion.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30145662</id>
	<title>Re:tax shelter</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257099300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The CoS (Church of Satan) was incorporated because it was a business just like any of the other religions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The CoS ( Church of Satan ) was incorporated because it was a business just like any of the other religions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The CoS (Church of Satan) was incorporated because it was a business just like any of the other religions.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30142650</id>
	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>aussie\_a</author>
	<datestamp>1257087060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>they make no money to speak of (enough to give to charities and cover liability costs on public worship - and perhaps support a minister).</p> </div><p>So because someone's job is to teach people about a being of questionable existence, he should be exempt from taxes? If they want to be a charity, register as a charity. If you want to be a religion, you should get taxed. Teaching people about beings of questionable existence (you say only god X exists? Man down the road says only god Y exists. Clearly there is question to which one, if either, exists) isn't something society should be forced to burden.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>they make no money to speak of ( enough to give to charities and cover liability costs on public worship - and perhaps support a minister ) .
So because someone 's job is to teach people about a being of questionable existence , he should be exempt from taxes ?
If they want to be a charity , register as a charity .
If you want to be a religion , you should get taxed .
Teaching people about beings of questionable existence ( you say only god X exists ?
Man down the road says only god Y exists .
Clearly there is question to which one , if either , exists ) is n't something society should be forced to burden .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they make no money to speak of (enough to give to charities and cover liability costs on public worship - and perhaps support a minister).
So because someone's job is to teach people about a being of questionable existence, he should be exempt from taxes?
If they want to be a charity, register as a charity.
If you want to be a religion, you should get taxed.
Teaching people about beings of questionable existence (you say only god X exists?
Man down the road says only god Y exists.
Clearly there is question to which one, if either, exists) isn't something society should be forced to burden.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30143588</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>Antique Geekmeister</author>
	<datestamp>1257091200000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Oh? Have you looked at the history of the Catholic Church? Or of the priesthoods of Greece, Rome, or Israel before the modern age? Or the Church of England? Church leadership has occurred by many means.</p><p>The difficulties with Scientology are many: the fraudulent claims for fiscal and physical benefit are one, the high pressure pyramid scheme sales tactics are another, and the deceit about the inner beliefs which are concealed from new members are another. But let's not presume that cults and religions have been immune to the power of money to attain leadership or to be redeemed.</p><p>Also note: the "most famous case" of Scientology censorship is probably the book "The Scandal of Scientology", which led to Mary Sue Hubbard and some of the leadership of Scientology's "Guardian Office" being convicted for planting fake bomb threats, infiltrating the IRS, and lots of other abuses. Look at the history over at www.xenu.net and www.facnet.org, it's fascinating material and also described in numerous books.</p><p>The non-profit status is a big help to them. By drawing the Constitutional cloak of "Freedom of Religion" over what they used to sell, fraudulently, as mental and physical self-help technologies, they avoided the FDA ban against making health claims for their techniques and avoided a lot of IRS difficulties for their fiscal abuse of their own members, especially staff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh ?
Have you looked at the history of the Catholic Church ?
Or of the priesthoods of Greece , Rome , or Israel before the modern age ?
Or the Church of England ?
Church leadership has occurred by many means.The difficulties with Scientology are many : the fraudulent claims for fiscal and physical benefit are one , the high pressure pyramid scheme sales tactics are another , and the deceit about the inner beliefs which are concealed from new members are another .
But let 's not presume that cults and religions have been immune to the power of money to attain leadership or to be redeemed.Also note : the " most famous case " of Scientology censorship is probably the book " The Scandal of Scientology " , which led to Mary Sue Hubbard and some of the leadership of Scientology 's " Guardian Office " being convicted for planting fake bomb threats , infiltrating the IRS , and lots of other abuses .
Look at the history over at www.xenu.net and www.facnet.org , it 's fascinating material and also described in numerous books.The non-profit status is a big help to them .
By drawing the Constitutional cloak of " Freedom of Religion " over what they used to sell , fraudulently , as mental and physical self-help technologies , they avoided the FDA ban against making health claims for their techniques and avoided a lot of IRS difficulties for their fiscal abuse of their own members , especially staff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh?
Have you looked at the history of the Catholic Church?
Or of the priesthoods of Greece, Rome, or Israel before the modern age?
Or the Church of England?
Church leadership has occurred by many means.The difficulties with Scientology are many: the fraudulent claims for fiscal and physical benefit are one, the high pressure pyramid scheme sales tactics are another, and the deceit about the inner beliefs which are concealed from new members are another.
But let's not presume that cults and religions have been immune to the power of money to attain leadership or to be redeemed.Also note: the "most famous case" of Scientology censorship is probably the book "The Scandal of Scientology", which led to Mary Sue Hubbard and some of the leadership of Scientology's "Guardian Office" being convicted for planting fake bomb threats, infiltrating the IRS, and lots of other abuses.
Look at the history over at www.xenu.net and www.facnet.org, it's fascinating material and also described in numerous books.The non-profit status is a big help to them.
By drawing the Constitutional cloak of "Freedom of Religion" over what they used to sell, fraudulently, as mental and physical self-help technologies, they avoided the FDA ban against making health claims for their techniques and avoided a lot of IRS difficulties for their fiscal abuse of their own members, especially staff.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141116</id>
	<title>mommy, mommy... what is that?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257069000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh, that's a real live moron, dear!  Don't worry, they will all die out someday.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , that 's a real live moron , dear !
Do n't worry , they will all die out someday .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, that's a real live moron, dear!
Don't worry, they will all die out someday.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141174</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>strangemachinex</author>
	<datestamp>1257069900000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Eh, I would say most religions aren't scams. I'm not very religious, but alot of Christian churches help people without asking much in return. All churches ask for money because it has to come from somewhere, but giving money isn't a condition for attending. I don't know much about other religions. But yeah, Scientology is stupid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Eh , I would say most religions are n't scams .
I 'm not very religious , but alot of Christian churches help people without asking much in return .
All churches ask for money because it has to come from somewhere , but giving money is n't a condition for attending .
I do n't know much about other religions .
But yeah , Scientology is stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eh, I would say most religions aren't scams.
I'm not very religious, but alot of Christian churches help people without asking much in return.
All churches ask for money because it has to come from somewhere, but giving money isn't a condition for attending.
I don't know much about other religions.
But yeah, Scientology is stupid.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30178620</id>
	<title>Re:What a difference 2000 years makes!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258716360000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>To think that Scientology is on a par with the average world religion is a relativist mistake.</p></div><p>You're right. The only other world religion I can think of which is guilty of all of those things is the Catholic Church, and perhaps the Jesuit one.</p></div><p>Wow, try learning a bit about the actual organizations you make such serious accusations about.  The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesuits" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Jesuits</a> [wikipedia.org] are a holy order of the the Roman Catholic Church, and one that has a history of being one of the more intellectual and progressive organizations withing the Roman Catholic Church.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Of course, the Catholics also have that whole institutionalized relocation of child molesters thing, where they transport pederasts all over the world so that they can rape an international assortment of young boys.</p></div><p>You must be trolling drinkypoo!  I've read enough of your posts to know that no matter how much you hated religion in general or Catholics in particular, you aren't stupid enough to actually believe that the Catholic Church promotes pedophilia in an organized or intentional way.  The Church hierarchy in the USA woefully and repeatedly mishandled the sins and crimes of a few who abused their position as priests.  For that they are guilty of endangering others and by trying to minimize the damage to the Church they instead exacerbated it, but to think that it was somehow a plot signed-on by the church leadership?  I really never expected to find you spout this...garbage... it is worthy of a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack\_Chick" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Jack Chick</a> [wikipedia.org] comic tract.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>So far, only the Catholics thus have the Scientologists beat for pure evil. If you add in things in the past like discouraging education to dissuade followers from developing their own interpretation of the bible, then you can perhaps term them the most evil organization which has ever been.</p></div><p>When did the hierarchy of Roman Catholic Church ever discourage education in general?  It clashed with a lot of specific scientific theories and competing theology, but after the collapse of the Western Roman Empire it was the main sources of education in Europe for centuries!  Even after that it founded and maintained hundreds, if not thousands, of schools, colleges, and universities around the world.  Oh and going back to the Jesuits, you might be interested to know that also during the 15th century there were priests, like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco\_Maria\_Grimaldi" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">this one</a> [wikipedia.org], publishing important contributions to science with no interference from the Church.</p></div>
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<tokenext>To think that Scientology is on a par with the average world religion is a relativist mistake.You 're right .
The only other world religion I can think of which is guilty of all of those things is the Catholic Church , and perhaps the Jesuit one.Wow , try learning a bit about the actual organizations you make such serious accusations about .
The Jesuits [ wikipedia.org ] are a holy order of the the Roman Catholic Church , and one that has a history of being one of the more intellectual and progressive organizations withing the Roman Catholic Church.Of course , the Catholics also have that whole institutionalized relocation of child molesters thing , where they transport pederasts all over the world so that they can rape an international assortment of young boys.You must be trolling drinkypoo !
I 've read enough of your posts to know that no matter how much you hated religion in general or Catholics in particular , you are n't stupid enough to actually believe that the Catholic Church promotes pedophilia in an organized or intentional way .
The Church hierarchy in the USA woefully and repeatedly mishandled the sins and crimes of a few who abused their position as priests .
For that they are guilty of endangering others and by trying to minimize the damage to the Church they instead exacerbated it , but to think that it was somehow a plot signed-on by the church leadership ?
I really never expected to find you spout this...garbage... it is worthy of a Jack Chick [ wikipedia.org ] comic tract.So far , only the Catholics thus have the Scientologists beat for pure evil .
If you add in things in the past like discouraging education to dissuade followers from developing their own interpretation of the bible , then you can perhaps term them the most evil organization which has ever been.When did the hierarchy of Roman Catholic Church ever discourage education in general ?
It clashed with a lot of specific scientific theories and competing theology , but after the collapse of the Western Roman Empire it was the main sources of education in Europe for centuries !
Even after that it founded and maintained hundreds , if not thousands , of schools , colleges , and universities around the world .
Oh and going back to the Jesuits , you might be interested to know that also during the 15th century there were priests , like this one [ wikipedia.org ] , publishing important contributions to science with no interference from the Church .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To think that Scientology is on a par with the average world religion is a relativist mistake.You're right.
The only other world religion I can think of which is guilty of all of those things is the Catholic Church, and perhaps the Jesuit one.Wow, try learning a bit about the actual organizations you make such serious accusations about.
The Jesuits [wikipedia.org] are a holy order of the the Roman Catholic Church, and one that has a history of being one of the more intellectual and progressive organizations withing the Roman Catholic Church.Of course, the Catholics also have that whole institutionalized relocation of child molesters thing, where they transport pederasts all over the world so that they can rape an international assortment of young boys.You must be trolling drinkypoo!
I've read enough of your posts to know that no matter how much you hated religion in general or Catholics in particular, you aren't stupid enough to actually believe that the Catholic Church promotes pedophilia in an organized or intentional way.
The Church hierarchy in the USA woefully and repeatedly mishandled the sins and crimes of a few who abused their position as priests.
For that they are guilty of endangering others and by trying to minimize the damage to the Church they instead exacerbated it, but to think that it was somehow a plot signed-on by the church leadership?
I really never expected to find you spout this...garbage... it is worthy of a Jack Chick [wikipedia.org] comic tract.So far, only the Catholics thus have the Scientologists beat for pure evil.
If you add in things in the past like discouraging education to dissuade followers from developing their own interpretation of the bible, then you can perhaps term them the most evil organization which has ever been.When did the hierarchy of Roman Catholic Church ever discourage education in general?
It clashed with a lot of specific scientific theories and competing theology, but after the collapse of the Western Roman Empire it was the main sources of education in Europe for centuries!
Even after that it founded and maintained hundreds, if not thousands, of schools, colleges, and universities around the world.
Oh and going back to the Jesuits, you might be interested to know that also during the 15th century there were priests, like this one [wikipedia.org], publishing important contributions to science with no interference from the Church.
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	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>socceroos</author>
	<datestamp>1258484940000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that instead of making a sweeping law that states that all Christian churches pay tax, instead it would be better to treat these things on a case by case basis.
<br> <br>
For example, hillsong and COS should be taxed into the dirt and then some - they're just commercial entities. But, the church down the road from me is completely different, they make no money to speak of (enough to give to charities and cover liability costs on public worship - and perhaps support a minister).
<br> <br>
Too often society swings from one extreme to the other.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that instead of making a sweeping law that states that all Christian churches pay tax , instead it would be better to treat these things on a case by case basis .
For example , hillsong and COS should be taxed into the dirt and then some - they 're just commercial entities .
But , the church down the road from me is completely different , they make no money to speak of ( enough to give to charities and cover liability costs on public worship - and perhaps support a minister ) .
Too often society swings from one extreme to the other .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that instead of making a sweeping law that states that all Christian churches pay tax, instead it would be better to treat these things on a case by case basis.
For example, hillsong and COS should be taxed into the dirt and then some - they're just commercial entities.
But, the church down the road from me is completely different, they make no money to speak of (enough to give to charities and cover liability costs on public worship - and perhaps support a minister).
Too often society swings from one extreme to the other.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141308</id>
	<title>Re:A word on Xenophon</title>
	<author>DNS-and-BIND</author>
	<datestamp>1257072060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext>Dude.  Relax.  It's not a documentary.  The movie was based on a freaking comic book.  It was an awesome movie, the kind that you're supposed to watch with a bigscreen and bad-ass sound system.  They didn't portray the helots either.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude .
Relax. It 's not a documentary .
The movie was based on a freaking comic book .
It was an awesome movie , the kind that you 're supposed to watch with a bigscreen and bad-ass sound system .
They did n't portray the helots either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude.
Relax.  It's not a documentary.
The movie was based on a freaking comic book.
It was an awesome movie, the kind that you're supposed to watch with a bigscreen and bad-ass sound system.
They didn't portray the helots either.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141758</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>Screaming Cactus</author>
	<datestamp>1257077700000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Religions didn't start off as a scam.  But form any institution, and people will rise to power within that institution to take advantage of its constituents.  It happens everywhere, from Catholicism to the government to the Red Cross.  While the uppers of many religious institutions may have been taking advantage of the lowers for years, the central belief that holds them together has remained the same for centuries... this applies to all religious institutions that I've seen, except for Scientology: which is clearly, without question, a scam.  I honestly can't figure out how Scientology still exists.  The fact that people are willing to believe in such a thing as Scientology makes me question my faith as a Christian.  And that makes me a sad panda.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Religions did n't start off as a scam .
But form any institution , and people will rise to power within that institution to take advantage of its constituents .
It happens everywhere , from Catholicism to the government to the Red Cross .
While the uppers of many religious institutions may have been taking advantage of the lowers for years , the central belief that holds them together has remained the same for centuries... this applies to all religious institutions that I 've seen , except for Scientology : which is clearly , without question , a scam .
I honestly ca n't figure out how Scientology still exists .
The fact that people are willing to believe in such a thing as Scientology makes me question my faith as a Christian .
And that makes me a sad panda .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Religions didn't start off as a scam.
But form any institution, and people will rise to power within that institution to take advantage of its constituents.
It happens everywhere, from Catholicism to the government to the Red Cross.
While the uppers of many religious institutions may have been taking advantage of the lowers for years, the central belief that holds them together has remained the same for centuries... this applies to all religious institutions that I've seen, except for Scientology: which is clearly, without question, a scam.
I honestly can't figure out how Scientology still exists.
The fact that people are willing to believe in such a thing as Scientology makes me question my faith as a Christian.
And that makes me a sad panda.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>dropbearsrus</author>
	<datestamp>1257090600000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Taking this further - why does government have anything to do with religion at all?</p><p> <b>Why are there tax breaks for religions?</b> <br>
How does that fit in to capitalism and open markets? e.g. the Sanitarium food company in Australia, owned by the Seventh Day Adventist church. Their advertisements on TV do not advertise the fact that they are owned by the church or operate as a charity (if you're a charity why not advertise the fact!), and while as a charitable company I'm sure most of the profits go back to the community, you can certainly argue that this is state-sponsored evangelism due to the tax breaks they receive.</p><p> <b>Why does the state have anything to do with marriage - gay or hetero?</b>
Rather than debate about whether the government should allow or ban gay marriages, I suggest the government get out of the marriage business altogether. Marriage is about belief systems, this is personal and different people have different views. It shouldn't be legislated any more than what pants I decide to wear or what music I like to listen to - <em>or what church I choose to belong to (if any)</em>. The government and courts should have a minimal role regarding living arrangements and tax arrangements, but only to protect people financially in case of relationship breakdowns, or to resolve custody issues.<br>
Apart from this let people decide who they want to live with, and when, and if they are a member of a church and want to get married that's between their church, their god, and themselves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Taking this further - why does government have anything to do with religion at all ?
Why are there tax breaks for religions ?
How does that fit in to capitalism and open markets ?
e.g. the Sanitarium food company in Australia , owned by the Seventh Day Adventist church .
Their advertisements on TV do not advertise the fact that they are owned by the church or operate as a charity ( if you 're a charity why not advertise the fact !
) , and while as a charitable company I 'm sure most of the profits go back to the community , you can certainly argue that this is state-sponsored evangelism due to the tax breaks they receive .
Why does the state have anything to do with marriage - gay or hetero ?
Rather than debate about whether the government should allow or ban gay marriages , I suggest the government get out of the marriage business altogether .
Marriage is about belief systems , this is personal and different people have different views .
It should n't be legislated any more than what pants I decide to wear or what music I like to listen to - or what church I choose to belong to ( if any ) .
The government and courts should have a minimal role regarding living arrangements and tax arrangements , but only to protect people financially in case of relationship breakdowns , or to resolve custody issues .
Apart from this let people decide who they want to live with , and when , and if they are a member of a church and want to get married that 's between their church , their god , and themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Taking this further - why does government have anything to do with religion at all?
Why are there tax breaks for religions?
How does that fit in to capitalism and open markets?
e.g. the Sanitarium food company in Australia, owned by the Seventh Day Adventist church.
Their advertisements on TV do not advertise the fact that they are owned by the church or operate as a charity (if you're a charity why not advertise the fact!
), and while as a charitable company I'm sure most of the profits go back to the community, you can certainly argue that this is state-sponsored evangelism due to the tax breaks they receive.
Why does the state have anything to do with marriage - gay or hetero?
Rather than debate about whether the government should allow or ban gay marriages, I suggest the government get out of the marriage business altogether.
Marriage is about belief systems, this is personal and different people have different views.
It shouldn't be legislated any more than what pants I decide to wear or what music I like to listen to - or what church I choose to belong to (if any).
The government and courts should have a minimal role regarding living arrangements and tax arrangements, but only to protect people financially in case of relationship breakdowns, or to resolve custody issues.
Apart from this let people decide who they want to live with, and when, and if they are a member of a church and want to get married that's between their church, their god, and themselves.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Translation of Language</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257088440000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>     For the clueless, I have translated high level church language, which appears to be English on the surface, but seems to be the CoS version of speaking in tongues, from Virginia Stewarts remarks in the story. It seems to be a language derived from buy here/pay here used car dealers in the Midwest u.s.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; "If these people had key issues, then how come they haven't contacted the church officially?" she said.<br>( We could've definitely driven the evil spirits out of these people with a bathtub of scalding water,avoiding any bad publicity from non CoS sources)</p><p>"We actually have an entire section that responds to people. So if someone has a complaint about the church, we really are so happy to meet with them."<br>(We have a section specializing in quieting dissenters. We can't disrupt our revenue leeched from the spiritually confused of the public, dissent could only mean evil spirits, so they need a nice warm bath)</p><p>Ms Stewart says the church tried to contact Senator Xenophon earlier this year after he spoke about Scientology on television.<br>( I was going to coax him over for a plate of kickback, a cup of blackmail and a nice warm bath)</p><p>"We offered to meet with him, to be completely open, answer any of his questions," she said.<br>( We wanted to see if he was receptive to veiled threats, but he claimed he'd just bathed)</p><p>"He didn't even bother to reply so I think it's a bit disingenuous that someone stands up in Parliament, where they can say whatever they want.<br>(He called us wack jobs and hung up citing laws regarding kickback, now the bastards gonna smear us and I'll have to be reeducated and purged because I didn't stop it. Where's my rubber ducky?)</p><p>"He hasn't even spoken with us before, and we have attempted to speak with him."<br>(Repeated callbacks begging for a deal didn't work, now some butch from SeaOrg is gonna drown me in the tub)</p><p>This is all just kind of a general translation, local dialects in both places make this kind of hard to keep diction from doing the babblefish dance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For the clueless , I have translated high level church language , which appears to be English on the surface , but seems to be the CoS version of speaking in tongues , from Virginia Stewarts remarks in the story .
It seems to be a language derived from buy here/pay here used car dealers in the Midwest u.s .           " If these people had key issues , then how come they have n't contacted the church officially ?
" she said .
( We could 've definitely driven the evil spirits out of these people with a bathtub of scalding water,avoiding any bad publicity from non CoS sources ) " We actually have an entire section that responds to people .
So if someone has a complaint about the church , we really are so happy to meet with them .
" ( We have a section specializing in quieting dissenters .
We ca n't disrupt our revenue leeched from the spiritually confused of the public , dissent could only mean evil spirits , so they need a nice warm bath ) Ms Stewart says the church tried to contact Senator Xenophon earlier this year after he spoke about Scientology on television .
( I was going to coax him over for a plate of kickback , a cup of blackmail and a nice warm bath ) " We offered to meet with him , to be completely open , answer any of his questions , " she said .
( We wanted to see if he was receptive to veiled threats , but he claimed he 'd just bathed ) " He did n't even bother to reply so I think it 's a bit disingenuous that someone stands up in Parliament , where they can say whatever they want .
( He called us wack jobs and hung up citing laws regarding kickback , now the bastards gon na smear us and I 'll have to be reeducated and purged because I did n't stop it .
Where 's my rubber ducky ?
) " He has n't even spoken with us before , and we have attempted to speak with him .
" ( Repeated callbacks begging for a deal did n't work , now some butch from SeaOrg is gon na drown me in the tub ) This is all just kind of a general translation , local dialects in both places make this kind of hard to keep diction from doing the babblefish dance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>     For the clueless, I have translated high level church language, which appears to be English on the surface, but seems to be the CoS version of speaking in tongues, from Virginia Stewarts remarks in the story.
It seems to be a language derived from buy here/pay here used car dealers in the Midwest u.s.
          "If these people had key issues, then how come they haven't contacted the church officially?
" she said.
( We could've definitely driven the evil spirits out of these people with a bathtub of scalding water,avoiding any bad publicity from non CoS sources)"We actually have an entire section that responds to people.
So if someone has a complaint about the church, we really are so happy to meet with them.
"(We have a section specializing in quieting dissenters.
We can't disrupt our revenue leeched from the spiritually confused of the public, dissent could only mean evil spirits, so they need a nice warm bath)Ms Stewart says the church tried to contact Senator Xenophon earlier this year after he spoke about Scientology on television.
( I was going to coax him over for a plate of kickback, a cup of blackmail and a nice warm bath)"We offered to meet with him, to be completely open, answer any of his questions," she said.
( We wanted to see if he was receptive to veiled threats, but he claimed he'd just bathed)"He didn't even bother to reply so I think it's a bit disingenuous that someone stands up in Parliament, where they can say whatever they want.
(He called us wack jobs and hung up citing laws regarding kickback, now the bastards gonna smear us and I'll have to be reeducated and purged because I didn't stop it.
Where's my rubber ducky?
)"He hasn't even spoken with us before, and we have attempted to speak with him.
"(Repeated callbacks begging for a deal didn't work, now some butch from SeaOrg is gonna drown me in the tub)This is all just kind of a general translation, local dialects in both places make this kind of hard to keep diction from doing the babblefish dance.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30142616</id>
	<title>Re:I used to be a Scientologist</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257086820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tom Cruise is better than you</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tom Cruise is better than you</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tom Cruise is better than you</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140354</id>
	<title>Xenophon?  Sounds Foreign</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258485120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Xenophon?  Sounds Foreign</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Xenophon ?
Sounds Foreign</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Xenophon?
Sounds Foreign</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30145626</id>
	<title>Re:A word on Xenophon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257099060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They did make a movie out of it; it's called <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080120/" title="imdb.com" rel="nofollow">The Warriors</a> [imdb.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They did make a movie out of it ; it 's called The Warriors [ imdb.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They did make a movie out of it; it's called The Warriors [imdb.com].</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140260</id>
	<title>On wikipedia right now...</title>
	<author>Zarniwoop</author>
	<datestamp>1258484160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"In November 2009, Xenophon labelled the Church of Scientology as a criminal organisation in a speech to the Senate. [42] This is clear evidence that he has very large testicles."</p><p>I'm not in favor of vandalism, but LOL!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" In November 2009 , Xenophon labelled the Church of Scientology as a criminal organisation in a speech to the Senate .
[ 42 ] This is clear evidence that he has very large testicles .
" I 'm not in favor of vandalism , but LOL !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"In November 2009, Xenophon labelled the Church of Scientology as a criminal organisation in a speech to the Senate.
[42] This is clear evidence that he has very large testicles.
"I'm not in favor of vandalism, but LOL!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141212</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>bjomape</author>
	<datestamp>1257070620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Religions come and go, their Gods are offered gold, placed upon altars and have great building and churches erected in their names - and yet, people die of violence, starvation, and famine. Their Gods grow weak and frail, their subjects grow old and a new religion eventually emerges and takes its place as the new "true" religion. A sad cycle indeed.</p></div><p>Where do you see this trend? From what I've seen, most of what we call religion has been around for thousands of years. Sure, there are some short lived cults as well, but the followers of long term religions outnumber them by far.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Religions come and go , their Gods are offered gold , placed upon altars and have great building and churches erected in their names - and yet , people die of violence , starvation , and famine .
Their Gods grow weak and frail , their subjects grow old and a new religion eventually emerges and takes its place as the new " true " religion .
A sad cycle indeed.Where do you see this trend ?
From what I 've seen , most of what we call religion has been around for thousands of years .
Sure , there are some short lived cults as well , but the followers of long term religions outnumber them by far .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Religions come and go, their Gods are offered gold, placed upon altars and have great building and churches erected in their names - and yet, people die of violence, starvation, and famine.
Their Gods grow weak and frail, their subjects grow old and a new religion eventually emerges and takes its place as the new "true" religion.
A sad cycle indeed.Where do you see this trend?
From what I've seen, most of what we call religion has been around for thousands of years.
Sure, there are some short lived cults as well, but the followers of long term religions outnumber them by far.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30147578</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257107760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are experiencing the difference between faith and religion. As an atheist I have respect for the former anyway, but will strongly fight at any level against the continuous attempts to limit my personal freedoms by the latter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are experiencing the difference between faith and religion .
As an atheist I have respect for the former anyway , but will strongly fight at any level against the continuous attempts to limit my personal freedoms by the latter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are experiencing the difference between faith and religion.
As an atheist I have respect for the former anyway, but will strongly fight at any level against the continuous attempts to limit my personal freedoms by the latter.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140592</id>
	<title>What a difference 2000 years makes!</title>
	<author>Beelzebud</author>
	<datestamp>1258487760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>From an outsiders perspective (atheist), scientology isn't any more corrupt or evil than any other organized religion in the world. It always amuses me when people of other faiths unload on scientology, while ignoring the crap their own religions promote.
<br>
<br>
Give it a couple of thousand years, and they'll be able to join the club of Established Religion.
<br>
<br>
Scary thought? Not really. It's no different than the bronze age fairy tales that millions of people believe in today...</htmltext>
<tokenext>From an outsiders perspective ( atheist ) , scientology is n't any more corrupt or evil than any other organized religion in the world .
It always amuses me when people of other faiths unload on scientology , while ignoring the crap their own religions promote .
Give it a couple of thousand years , and they 'll be able to join the club of Established Religion .
Scary thought ?
Not really .
It 's no different than the bronze age fairy tales that millions of people believe in today.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From an outsiders perspective (atheist), scientology isn't any more corrupt or evil than any other organized religion in the world.
It always amuses me when people of other faiths unload on scientology, while ignoring the crap their own religions promote.
Give it a couple of thousand years, and they'll be able to join the club of Established Religion.
Scary thought?
Not really.
It's no different than the bronze age fairy tales that millions of people believe in today...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30146822</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257104100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>an answer to questions like who made the universe and what happens when I die</p></div></blockquote><p>A wrong answer, but that's neither here nor there. Religions are polyfilla for the mind. They fill in all the gaps.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>an answer to questions like who made the universe and what happens when I dieA wrong answer , but that 's neither here nor there .
Religions are polyfilla for the mind .
They fill in all the gaps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>an answer to questions like who made the universe and what happens when I dieA wrong answer, but that's neither here nor there.
Religions are polyfilla for the mind.
They fill in all the gaps.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141592</id>
	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257075960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So what's the problem with taxing all religions as if they were businesses?  Tax them a certain proportion of their profits - no profits, no tax.  I'd expect that the Cult of Scientology would be among the first to get wholly reamed via the new taxation regimen.</p></div><p>Because I'm absolutely certain that the CoS, with all the money it has accumulated over the years, would have a <b>terrible</b> time finding a suitably creative team of accountants to bring their tax bill right down.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So what 's the problem with taxing all religions as if they were businesses ?
Tax them a certain proportion of their profits - no profits , no tax .
I 'd expect that the Cult of Scientology would be among the first to get wholly reamed via the new taxation regimen.Because I 'm absolutely certain that the CoS , with all the money it has accumulated over the years , would have a terrible time finding a suitably creative team of accountants to bring their tax bill right down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what's the problem with taxing all religions as if they were businesses?
Tax them a certain proportion of their profits - no profits, no tax.
I'd expect that the Cult of Scientology would be among the first to get wholly reamed via the new taxation regimen.Because I'm absolutely certain that the CoS, with all the money it has accumulated over the years, would have a terrible time finding a suitably creative team of accountants to bring their tax bill right down.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30152644</id>
	<title>Re:I used to be a Scientologist</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257093000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... or maybe just grow up and concentrate and quite making a pathology out of every little problem life brings.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... or maybe just grow up and concentrate and quite making a pathology out of every little problem life brings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... or maybe just grow up and concentrate and quite making a pathology out of every little problem life brings.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30151516</id>
	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>dakameleon</author>
	<datestamp>1257084000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hillsong ain't exactly money-in-the-hat church - <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsong#Music" title="wikipedia.org">they've had number 1 albums</a> [wikipedia.org], after all. I don't think your down-the-road church has the ability to record, produce and distribute music on quite that scale.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hillsong ai n't exactly money-in-the-hat church - they 've had number 1 albums [ wikipedia.org ] , after all .
I do n't think your down-the-road church has the ability to record , produce and distribute music on quite that scale .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hillsong ain't exactly money-in-the-hat church - they've had number 1 albums [wikipedia.org], after all.
I don't think your down-the-road church has the ability to record, produce and distribute music on quite that scale.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140280</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1258484400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most religions don't copyright their message and charge large sums to move up the hierarchy.  Most religions attempt to spead their message to as many as possible.  The COS has gone as far to copyright the message and sue those who infringe.  The most famous case of this happened right here on Slashdot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most religions do n't copyright their message and charge large sums to move up the hierarchy .
Most religions attempt to spead their message to as many as possible .
The COS has gone as far to copyright the message and sue those who infringe .
The most famous case of this happened right here on Slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most religions don't copyright their message and charge large sums to move up the hierarchy.
Most religions attempt to spead their message to as many as possible.
The COS has gone as far to copyright the message and sue those who infringe.
The most famous case of this happened right here on Slashdot.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30149076</id>
	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>steelfood</author>
	<datestamp>1257072000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess there'll be a sudden demand for Hollywood accountants.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess there 'll be a sudden demand for Hollywood accountants .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess there'll be a sudden demand for Hollywood accountants.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141108</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257068940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>To me, all religions are a scam. Some have been around longer than others and thus emanate a sense of legitimacy but they're mostly cults with a God that we offer our prayers and money to in return for a hope of a better life.</p></div><p>For me, religions are not a scam, but <b>churches</b> (the organizations behind). For the case of Catholicism, I can enter any church without paying (unless it is Germany!, but I think they are not catholic) and sit down to hear the mass. I can even take pictures of some nice interiors.</p><p>Also, if I want to read what the church is about, I just have to go to internet and can download or read online its "sacred books", in *many languages*. Such a church promotes the dissemination of information.</p><p>Of course, the catholic church has learnt in the bad way how much they can exploit their followers (from hundreds of years of fighting).</p><p>Other churches such as the Islam or CoS (or the last day saints) use specific religious beliefs they use to exploit their followers in worst ways. Such actions are illegal in some places (France, Belgium), and tolerated in others (USA).</p><p>Me? I "sadly" believe as much in religion as I believe in Santa Claus. I say "sadly" because sometimes it would be just great to be able to blame whatever "all powerful" entity for the mistakes we do.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>To me , all religions are a scam .
Some have been around longer than others and thus emanate a sense of legitimacy but they 're mostly cults with a God that we offer our prayers and money to in return for a hope of a better life.For me , religions are not a scam , but churches ( the organizations behind ) .
For the case of Catholicism , I can enter any church without paying ( unless it is Germany ! , but I think they are not catholic ) and sit down to hear the mass .
I can even take pictures of some nice interiors.Also , if I want to read what the church is about , I just have to go to internet and can download or read online its " sacred books " , in * many languages * .
Such a church promotes the dissemination of information.Of course , the catholic church has learnt in the bad way how much they can exploit their followers ( from hundreds of years of fighting ) .Other churches such as the Islam or CoS ( or the last day saints ) use specific religious beliefs they use to exploit their followers in worst ways .
Such actions are illegal in some places ( France , Belgium ) , and tolerated in others ( USA ) .Me ?
I " sadly " believe as much in religion as I believe in Santa Claus .
I say " sadly " because sometimes it would be just great to be able to blame whatever " all powerful " entity for the mistakes we do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To me, all religions are a scam.
Some have been around longer than others and thus emanate a sense of legitimacy but they're mostly cults with a God that we offer our prayers and money to in return for a hope of a better life.For me, religions are not a scam, but churches (the organizations behind).
For the case of Catholicism, I can enter any church without paying (unless it is Germany!, but I think they are not catholic) and sit down to hear the mass.
I can even take pictures of some nice interiors.Also, if I want to read what the church is about, I just have to go to internet and can download or read online its "sacred books", in *many languages*.
Such a church promotes the dissemination of information.Of course, the catholic church has learnt in the bad way how much they can exploit their followers (from hundreds of years of fighting).Other churches such as the Islam or CoS (or the last day saints) use specific religious beliefs they use to exploit their followers in worst ways.
Such actions are illegal in some places (France, Belgium), and tolerated in others (USA).Me?
I "sadly" believe as much in religion as I believe in Santa Claus.
I say "sadly" because sometimes it would be just great to be able to blame whatever "all powerful" entity for the mistakes we do.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141726</id>
	<title>Re:A word on Xenophon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257077340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Surprised they haven't made a movie out of it a la <i>300</i>.</p></div><p>They kind of did: <i>The Warriors</i> is a movie about a streetgang trying to return to its turf after a "peace conference" goes wrong. It's based (loosely, obviously) on <i>The Anabasis</i>.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Surprised they have n't made a movie out of it a la 300.They kind of did : The Warriors is a movie about a streetgang trying to return to its turf after a " peace conference " goes wrong .
It 's based ( loosely , obviously ) on The Anabasis .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surprised they haven't made a movie out of it a la 300.They kind of did: The Warriors is a movie about a streetgang trying to return to its turf after a "peace conference" goes wrong.
It's based (loosely, obviously) on The Anabasis.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30149856</id>
	<title>Re:PM is "concerned" too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257075540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Any time a politician shouts "look over there", we should all look in the opposite direction.</p><p>What is Ruddy trying to distract us from this time?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Any time a politician shouts " look over there " , we should all look in the opposite direction.What is Ruddy trying to distract us from this time ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any time a politician shouts "look over there", we should all look in the opposite direction.What is Ruddy trying to distract us from this time?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30152088</id>
	<title>My Philosophy by L. Ron Hubbard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257087780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <a href="http://www.ronthephilosopher.org/phlspher/page83.htm" title="ronthephilosopher.org" rel="nofollow"> Link to source</a> [ronthephilosopher.org] </p><p>The subject of philosophy is very ancient. The word means: &ldquo;The love, study or pursuit of wisdom, or of knowledge of things and their causes, whether theoretical or practical.&rdquo;</p><p>All we know of science or of religion comes from philosophy. It lies behind and above all other knowledge we have or use.</p><p>
     For long regarded as a subject reserved for halls of learning and the intellectual, the subject, to a remarkable degree, has been denied the man in the street.</p><p>
     Surrounded by protective coatings of impenetrable scholarliness, philosophy has been reserved to the privileged few.</p><p>
     The first principle of my own philosophy is that wisdom is meant for anyone who wishes to reach for it. It is the servant of the commoner and king alike and should never be regarded with awe.</p><p>
     Selfish scholars seldom forgive anyone who seeks to break down the walls of mystery and let the people in. Will Durant, the modern American philosopher, was relegated to the scrapheap by his fellow scholars when he wrote a popular book on the subject, The Outline of Philosophy. Thus brickbats come the way of any who seek to bring wisdom to the people over the objections of the &ldquo;inner circle.&rdquo;</p><p>
     The second principle of my own philosophy is that it must be capable of being applied.</p><p>
     Learning locked in mildewed books is of little use to anyone and therefore of no value unless it can be used.</p><p>
     The third principle is that any philosophic knowledge is only valuable if it is true or if it works.</p><p>
     These three principles are so strange to the field of philosophy, that I have given my philosophy a name: SCIENTOLOGY. This means only &ldquo;knowing how to know.&rdquo;</p><p>
     A philosophy can only be a route to knowledge. It cannot be crammed down one&rsquo;s throat. If one has a route, he can then find what is true for him. And that is Scientology.</p><p>
     Know thyself . . . and the truth shall set you free.</p><p>
     Therefore, in Scientology, we are not concerned with individual actions and differences. We are only concerned with how to show man how he can set himself free.</p><p>
     This, of course, is not very popular with those who depend upon the slavery of others for their living or power. But it happens to be the only way I have found that really improves an individual&rsquo;s life.</p><p>
     Suppression and oppression are the basic causes of depression. If you relieve those a person can lift his head, become well, become happy with life.</p><p>
     And though it may be unpopular with the slave master, it is very popular with the people.</p><p>
     Common man likes to be happy and well. He likes to be able to understand things, and he knows his route to freedom lies through knowledge.</p><p>
     Therefore, for fifteen years I have had mankind knocking on my door. It has not mattered where I have lived or how remote, since I first published a book on the subject my life has no longer been my own.</p><p>
     I like to help others and count it as my greatest pleasure in life to see a person free himself of the shadows which darken his days.</p><p>
     These shadows look so thick to him and weigh him down so that when he finds they are shadows and that he can see through them, walk through them and be again in the sun, he is enormously delighted. And I am afraid I am just as delighted as he is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Link to source [ ronthephilosopher.org ] The subject of philosophy is very ancient .
The word means :    The love , study or pursuit of wisdom , or of knowledge of things and their causes , whether theoretical or practical.    All we know of science or of religion comes from philosophy .
It lies behind and above all other knowledge we have or use .
For long regarded as a subject reserved for halls of learning and the intellectual , the subject , to a remarkable degree , has been denied the man in the street .
Surrounded by protective coatings of impenetrable scholarliness , philosophy has been reserved to the privileged few .
The first principle of my own philosophy is that wisdom is meant for anyone who wishes to reach for it .
It is the servant of the commoner and king alike and should never be regarded with awe .
Selfish scholars seldom forgive anyone who seeks to break down the walls of mystery and let the people in .
Will Durant , the modern American philosopher , was relegated to the scrapheap by his fellow scholars when he wrote a popular book on the subject , The Outline of Philosophy .
Thus brickbats come the way of any who seek to bring wisdom to the people over the objections of the    inner circle.    The second principle of my own philosophy is that it must be capable of being applied .
Learning locked in mildewed books is of little use to anyone and therefore of no value unless it can be used .
The third principle is that any philosophic knowledge is only valuable if it is true or if it works .
These three principles are so strange to the field of philosophy , that I have given my philosophy a name : SCIENTOLOGY .
This means only    knowing how to know.    A philosophy can only be a route to knowledge .
It can not be crammed down one    s throat .
If one has a route , he can then find what is true for him .
And that is Scientology .
Know thyself .
. .
and the truth shall set you free .
Therefore , in Scientology , we are not concerned with individual actions and differences .
We are only concerned with how to show man how he can set himself free .
This , of course , is not very popular with those who depend upon the slavery of others for their living or power .
But it happens to be the only way I have found that really improves an individual    s life .
Suppression and oppression are the basic causes of depression .
If you relieve those a person can lift his head , become well , become happy with life .
And though it may be unpopular with the slave master , it is very popular with the people .
Common man likes to be happy and well .
He likes to be able to understand things , and he knows his route to freedom lies through knowledge .
Therefore , for fifteen years I have had mankind knocking on my door .
It has not mattered where I have lived or how remote , since I first published a book on the subject my life has no longer been my own .
I like to help others and count it as my greatest pleasure in life to see a person free himself of the shadows which darken his days .
These shadows look so thick to him and weigh him down so that when he finds they are shadows and that he can see through them , walk through them and be again in the sun , he is enormously delighted .
And I am afraid I am just as delighted as he is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  Link to source [ronthephilosopher.org] The subject of philosophy is very ancient.
The word means: “The love, study or pursuit of wisdom, or of knowledge of things and their causes, whether theoretical or practical.”All we know of science or of religion comes from philosophy.
It lies behind and above all other knowledge we have or use.
For long regarded as a subject reserved for halls of learning and the intellectual, the subject, to a remarkable degree, has been denied the man in the street.
Surrounded by protective coatings of impenetrable scholarliness, philosophy has been reserved to the privileged few.
The first principle of my own philosophy is that wisdom is meant for anyone who wishes to reach for it.
It is the servant of the commoner and king alike and should never be regarded with awe.
Selfish scholars seldom forgive anyone who seeks to break down the walls of mystery and let the people in.
Will Durant, the modern American philosopher, was relegated to the scrapheap by his fellow scholars when he wrote a popular book on the subject, The Outline of Philosophy.
Thus brickbats come the way of any who seek to bring wisdom to the people over the objections of the “inner circle.”
     The second principle of my own philosophy is that it must be capable of being applied.
Learning locked in mildewed books is of little use to anyone and therefore of no value unless it can be used.
The third principle is that any philosophic knowledge is only valuable if it is true or if it works.
These three principles are so strange to the field of philosophy, that I have given my philosophy a name: SCIENTOLOGY.
This means only “knowing how to know.”
     A philosophy can only be a route to knowledge.
It cannot be crammed down one’s throat.
If one has a route, he can then find what is true for him.
And that is Scientology.
Know thyself .
. .
and the truth shall set you free.
Therefore, in Scientology, we are not concerned with individual actions and differences.
We are only concerned with how to show man how he can set himself free.
This, of course, is not very popular with those who depend upon the slavery of others for their living or power.
But it happens to be the only way I have found that really improves an individual’s life.
Suppression and oppression are the basic causes of depression.
If you relieve those a person can lift his head, become well, become happy with life.
And though it may be unpopular with the slave master, it is very popular with the people.
Common man likes to be happy and well.
He likes to be able to understand things, and he knows his route to freedom lies through knowledge.
Therefore, for fifteen years I have had mankind knocking on my door.
It has not mattered where I have lived or how remote, since I first published a book on the subject my life has no longer been my own.
I like to help others and count it as my greatest pleasure in life to see a person free himself of the shadows which darken his days.
These shadows look so thick to him and weigh him down so that when he finds they are shadows and that he can see through them, walk through them and be again in the sun, he is enormously delighted.
And I am afraid I am just as delighted as he is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140498</id>
	<title>Re:tax shelter</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258486680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With the tax exemption, new members only have to pay x\% of their salaries to the church instead of y\%. Since x is still a positive number I wouldn't call it an incentive to join, just a reduced burden.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With the tax exemption , new members only have to pay x \ % of their salaries to the church instead of y \ % .
Since x is still a positive number I would n't call it an incentive to join , just a reduced burden .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With the tax exemption, new members only have to pay x\% of their salaries to the church instead of y\%.
Since x is still a positive number I wouldn't call it an incentive to join, just a reduced burden.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30144036</id>
	<title>Re:A word on Xenophon</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1257092940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Especially in the light of what he goes against. If my greek is not completely rusty, doesn't that name mean essentially "voice of the alien"?</p><p>Xenu strikes back!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Especially in the light of what he goes against .
If my greek is not completely rusty , does n't that name mean essentially " voice of the alien " ? Xenu strikes back !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Especially in the light of what he goes against.
If my greek is not completely rusty, doesn't that name mean essentially "voice of the alien"?Xenu strikes back!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140654</id>
	<title>86 the Scientology crap</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257106140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is Slashdot... News for Nerds... Stuff that Matters.</p><p>Nobody cares about Scientology.  Lets keep this a tech site.  We'll leave the Scientology stuff to 4chan (not that they want it either).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is Slashdot... News for Nerds... Stuff that Matters.Nobody cares about Scientology .
Lets keep this a tech site .
We 'll leave the Scientology stuff to 4chan ( not that they want it either ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is Slashdot... News for Nerds... Stuff that Matters.Nobody cares about Scientology.
Lets keep this a tech site.
We'll leave the Scientology stuff to 4chan (not that they want it either).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140424</id>
	<title>Xenu vs Xeno</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258485900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is gonna be a good fight. Get the popcorn!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is gon na be a good fight .
Get the popcorn !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is gonna be a good fight.
Get the popcorn!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30147162</id>
	<title>Re:Xenophon and Socrates</title>
	<author>Zymophideth</author>
	<datestamp>1257105720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>CoS are of course a shill, its not even a very clever shill, their "e-meters" are almost as dumb as the bullet proof pants that the Mormons try and pedal.</p></div><p>They don't pedal bullet proof "pants". They're sacred garments to remind oneself of their commitment to God. Being committed to God has its advantages in that occasionally he might perform a miracle and deflect some bullets (think pulp fiction), but nobody in the LDS church is claiming those garments will protect you from bodily harm. Sure some LDS members might claim their garment saved them in some way or another but what the really mean is God saved them and by no means are these stories the reasons people wear them. Honestly, i think the main reason they have them is in case you get intimate once the clothes start coming and you see the special underwear you're reminded of your commitments and priorities.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>CoS are of course a shill , its not even a very clever shill , their " e-meters " are almost as dumb as the bullet proof pants that the Mormons try and pedal.They do n't pedal bullet proof " pants " .
They 're sacred garments to remind oneself of their commitment to God .
Being committed to God has its advantages in that occasionally he might perform a miracle and deflect some bullets ( think pulp fiction ) , but nobody in the LDS church is claiming those garments will protect you from bodily harm .
Sure some LDS members might claim their garment saved them in some way or another but what the really mean is God saved them and by no means are these stories the reasons people wear them .
Honestly , i think the main reason they have them is in case you get intimate once the clothes start coming and you see the special underwear you 're reminded of your commitments and priorities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CoS are of course a shill, its not even a very clever shill, their "e-meters" are almost as dumb as the bullet proof pants that the Mormons try and pedal.They don't pedal bullet proof "pants".
They're sacred garments to remind oneself of their commitment to God.
Being committed to God has its advantages in that occasionally he might perform a miracle and deflect some bullets (think pulp fiction), but nobody in the LDS church is claiming those garments will protect you from bodily harm.
Sure some LDS members might claim their garment saved them in some way or another but what the really mean is God saved them and by no means are these stories the reasons people wear them.
Honestly, i think the main reason they have them is in case you get intimate once the clothes start coming and you see the special underwear you're reminded of your commitments and priorities.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30139840</id>
	<title>Anonymous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258480680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anonymous should now use Nick Xenophon masks for all of their events.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anonymous should now use Nick Xenophon masks for all of their events .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anonymous should now use Nick Xenophon masks for all of their events.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30156214</id>
	<title>Re:We NEED those sky gods</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1258645800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Hey, if it can be used to keep some idiot from holding up a liquor store and shooting someone, I'm all for it.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
This is the famous "we all know it's a load of bollocks but it keeps the plebs in order" argument first made by some Greek proto-fascist two and a half thousand years ago.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , if it can be used to keep some idiot from holding up a liquor store and shooting someone , I 'm all for it .
This is the famous " we all know it 's a load of bollocks but it keeps the plebs in order " argument first made by some Greek proto-fascist two and a half thousand years ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, if it can be used to keep some idiot from holding up a liquor store and shooting someone, I'm all for it.
This is the famous "we all know it's a load of bollocks but it keeps the plebs in order" argument first made by some Greek proto-fascist two and a half thousand years ago.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141318</id>
	<title>Re:I used to be a Scientologist</title>
	<author>mpe</author>
	<datestamp>1257072120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Scientology has gotten away with innumerable crimes</i> <br> <br>Including various acts of terrorism. Indeed what they call "fair game" is a euphemism for "terrorism".</htmltext>
<tokenext>Scientology has gotten away with innumerable crimes Including various acts of terrorism .
Indeed what they call " fair game " is a euphemism for " terrorism " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Scientology has gotten away with innumerable crimes  Including various acts of terrorism.
Indeed what they call "fair game" is a euphemism for "terrorism".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30152180</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257088440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Religions give followers a sense of belonging and an answer to questions like who made the universe and what happens when I die. They also give a group of people a sense of belonging.</p></div><p>It's also a pity that religion gives them such answers when in fact we still don't know and should still be exploring possible explanations for those great big questions.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Religions give followers a sense of belonging and an answer to questions like who made the universe and what happens when I die .
They also give a group of people a sense of belonging.It 's also a pity that religion gives them such answers when in fact we still do n't know and should still be exploring possible explanations for those great big questions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Religions give followers a sense of belonging and an answer to questions like who made the universe and what happens when I die.
They also give a group of people a sense of belonging.It's also a pity that religion gives them such answers when in fact we still don't know and should still be exploring possible explanations for those great big questions.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30153342</id>
	<title>Re:A word on Xenophon</title>
	<author>SanityInAnarchy</author>
	<datestamp>1257101100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To be fair, most of the errors of the movie 300 were also in the graphic novel. And while it doesn't portray homosexuality, probably the biggest inaccuracy in the film is the line "Athenian boy-lovers."</p><p>I think the question here is whether it would be a better movie if they actually expressed (or displayed) that pederasty. But I can appreciate it as a work of fiction, and I think it works well.</p><p>Then again, I wasn't really sure until I saw Firefly that hard science fiction would be as fun to watch. No sound in space, but it uses that silence well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair , most of the errors of the movie 300 were also in the graphic novel .
And while it does n't portray homosexuality , probably the biggest inaccuracy in the film is the line " Athenian boy-lovers .
" I think the question here is whether it would be a better movie if they actually expressed ( or displayed ) that pederasty .
But I can appreciate it as a work of fiction , and I think it works well.Then again , I was n't really sure until I saw Firefly that hard science fiction would be as fun to watch .
No sound in space , but it uses that silence well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair, most of the errors of the movie 300 were also in the graphic novel.
And while it doesn't portray homosexuality, probably the biggest inaccuracy in the film is the line "Athenian boy-lovers.
"I think the question here is whether it would be a better movie if they actually expressed (or displayed) that pederasty.
But I can appreciate it as a work of fiction, and I think it works well.Then again, I wasn't really sure until I saw Firefly that hard science fiction would be as fun to watch.
No sound in space, but it uses that silence well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30144912</id>
	<title>Re:A word on Xenophon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257096240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Xenophon, for those unfamiliar, was an ancient Greek general best known for writing <i>The Anabasis</i> -- an account of the trials and adventures of The Ten Thousand, a group of Greek mercenaries hired by Cyrus the Younger. After he's killed in battle, the Greeks have to march back to Greece from deep within enemy territory. It's quite a thrilling tale with plenty of action and treachery. Surprised they haven't made a movie out of it a la <i>300</i>.</p></div><p>They did.  Only it was called "The Warriors."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Xenophon , for those unfamiliar , was an ancient Greek general best known for writing The Anabasis -- an account of the trials and adventures of The Ten Thousand , a group of Greek mercenaries hired by Cyrus the Younger .
After he 's killed in battle , the Greeks have to march back to Greece from deep within enemy territory .
It 's quite a thrilling tale with plenty of action and treachery .
Surprised they have n't made a movie out of it a la 300.They did .
Only it was called " The Warriors .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Xenophon, for those unfamiliar, was an ancient Greek general best known for writing The Anabasis -- an account of the trials and adventures of The Ten Thousand, a group of Greek mercenaries hired by Cyrus the Younger.
After he's killed in battle, the Greeks have to march back to Greece from deep within enemy territory.
It's quite a thrilling tale with plenty of action and treachery.
Surprised they haven't made a movie out of it a la 300.They did.
Only it was called "The Warriors.
"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141476</id>
	<title>Re:PM is "concerned" too</title>
	<author>the\_womble</author>
	<datestamp>1257074220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>May be they can apply that to internet censorship and treating refugees as criminals as well!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>May be they can apply that to internet censorship and treating refugees as criminals as well !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>May be they can apply that to internet censorship and treating refugees as criminals as well!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140524</id>
	<title>What a difference 2000 years makes!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258486980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>From an outsiders perspective (atheist), scientology isn't any more corrupt or evil than any other organized religion in the world.  It always amuses me when people of other faiths unload on scientology, while ignoring the crap their own religions promote.
<br>
<br>
Give it a couple of thousand years, and they'll be able to join the club of Established Religion.
<br>
<br>
Scary thought?   Not really.  It's no different than the bronze age fairy tales that millions of people believe in today...</htmltext>
<tokenext>From an outsiders perspective ( atheist ) , scientology is n't any more corrupt or evil than any other organized religion in the world .
It always amuses me when people of other faiths unload on scientology , while ignoring the crap their own religions promote .
Give it a couple of thousand years , and they 'll be able to join the club of Established Religion .
Scary thought ?
Not really .
It 's no different than the bronze age fairy tales that millions of people believe in today.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From an outsiders perspective (atheist), scientology isn't any more corrupt or evil than any other organized religion in the world.
It always amuses me when people of other faiths unload on scientology, while ignoring the crap their own religions promote.
Give it a couple of thousand years, and they'll be able to join the club of Established Religion.
Scary thought?
Not really.
It's no different than the bronze age fairy tales that millions of people believe in today...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140304</id>
	<title>PM is "concerned" too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258484580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kevin Rudd, Prime Minister, has said <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/national/rudd-voices-concerns-about-scientology-20091118-ilf3.html?autostart=1" title="smh.com.au">he's concerned too, and wants to see the material before calling a full inquiry.</a> [smh.com.au]</p><p>It's a sudden outbreak of common sense in the House in the Hill, that's for sure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kevin Rudd , Prime Minister , has said he 's concerned too , and wants to see the material before calling a full inquiry .
[ smh.com.au ] It 's a sudden outbreak of common sense in the House in the Hill , that 's for sure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kevin Rudd, Prime Minister, has said he's concerned too, and wants to see the material before calling a full inquiry.
[smh.com.au]It's a sudden outbreak of common sense in the House in the Hill, that's for sure.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140362</id>
	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>camperdave</author>
	<datestamp>1258485120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>He said it wasn't government's job to determine which religious beliefs are worthy of recognition and which are not. </i> <br> <br>Of course it is.  The government is responsible for levying taxes.  They are the ones who decide who gets taxed and who doesn't.  It's certainly not the religion's job to determine if it should be recognized.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He said it was n't government 's job to determine which religious beliefs are worthy of recognition and which are not .
Of course it is .
The government is responsible for levying taxes .
They are the ones who decide who gets taxed and who does n't .
It 's certainly not the religion 's job to determine if it should be recognized .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He said it wasn't government's job to determine which religious beliefs are worthy of recognition and which are not.
Of course it is.
The government is responsible for levying taxes.
They are the ones who decide who gets taxed and who doesn't.
It's certainly not the religion's job to determine if it should be recognized.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30139998</id>
	<title>Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>Valdrax</author>
	<datestamp>1258481880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't like Scientology either but I value <b>my</b> freedom to associate.</p></div><p>Should all associations be given tax-free status?  If not, then what conditions deserve tax-free status, and should that status be irrevocable once obtained?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't like Scientology either but I value my freedom to associate.Should all associations be given tax-free status ?
If not , then what conditions deserve tax-free status , and should that status be irrevocable once obtained ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't like Scientology either but I value my freedom to associate.Should all associations be given tax-free status?
If not, then what conditions deserve tax-free status, and should that status be irrevocable once obtained?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30147398</id>
	<title>Re:I used to be a Scientologist</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257106920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My first and only contact with the CoS was that I had no idea what they were about and happened across a pamphlet with an interesting little "free psychological profile test" on it.  So I wandered into one of their offices, took the little test thingie, and then the sales pitch began, pumping me for money in order to find out what the results were.  Lying sacks of shit.  It said "free", and it wasn't free at all.  The only "test" was to try to find out how much of a sucker I would turn out to be.   So, sorry ADHD dude, but that wasn't the case with me.  It was just a lying pamphlet and a cheap front in a strip mall.  Fortunately for me, I figured out the CoS's psychological profile pretty quickly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My first and only contact with the CoS was that I had no idea what they were about and happened across a pamphlet with an interesting little " free psychological profile test " on it .
So I wandered into one of their offices , took the little test thingie , and then the sales pitch began , pumping me for money in order to find out what the results were .
Lying sacks of shit .
It said " free " , and it was n't free at all .
The only " test " was to try to find out how much of a sucker I would turn out to be .
So , sorry ADHD dude , but that was n't the case with me .
It was just a lying pamphlet and a cheap front in a strip mall .
Fortunately for me , I figured out the CoS 's psychological profile pretty quickly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My first and only contact with the CoS was that I had no idea what they were about and happened across a pamphlet with an interesting little "free psychological profile test" on it.
So I wandered into one of their offices, took the little test thingie, and then the sales pitch began, pumping me for money in order to find out what the results were.
Lying sacks of shit.
It said "free", and it wasn't free at all.
The only "test" was to try to find out how much of a sucker I would turn out to be.
So, sorry ADHD dude, but that wasn't the case with me.
It was just a lying pamphlet and a cheap front in a strip mall.
Fortunately for me, I figured out the CoS's psychological profile pretty quickly.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30141602</id>
	<title>And your an idiot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257076080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I see this argument everytime slashdot reports on Scientology. Many ideologies that people hold to are shams but harmless (look at aromatherapy). Whether it is true or not is irrelevant and a straw man argument. The issue here is whether the organisation is causing harm and whether that harm that it does is intrinsic.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I see this argument everytime slashdot reports on Scientology .
Many ideologies that people hold to are shams but harmless ( look at aromatherapy ) .
Whether it is true or not is irrelevant and a straw man argument .
The issue here is whether the organisation is causing harm and whether that harm that it does is intrinsic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see this argument everytime slashdot reports on Scientology.
Many ideologies that people hold to are shams but harmless (look at aromatherapy).
Whether it is true or not is irrelevant and a straw man argument.
The issue here is whether the organisation is causing harm and whether that harm that it does is intrinsic.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Interesting name.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258484700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Only Tom Cruise, with his awesome mental powers, can free Senator Xenophon from the clutches of the evil psychiatrists and their terrible leader, Lord Xenu himself! (To hear the exiting conclusion of Incident II: suggested donation of $23,148,855,308,184,500.00)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Only Tom Cruise , with his awesome mental powers , can free Senator Xenophon from the clutches of the evil psychiatrists and their terrible leader , Lord Xenu himself !
( To hear the exiting conclusion of Incident II : suggested donation of $ 23,148,855,308,184,500.00 )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only Tom Cruise, with his awesome mental powers, can free Senator Xenophon from the clutches of the evil psychiatrists and their terrible leader, Lord Xenu himself!
(To hear the exiting conclusion of Incident II: suggested donation of $23,148,855,308,184,500.00)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_237246.30140314</id>
	<title>Re:Should they get off tax-free?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258484700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Should all associations be given tax-free status? If not, then what conditions deserve tax-free status, and should that status be irrevocable once obtained?</p></div></blockquote><p>I don't think <b>*any*</b> organization, association, or person should ever have tax-free status period.</p><p>The way taxes are done now is an invasive active system that is just abused as an information tool for intelligence agencies, and a barcode for every citizen to be forcible tattooed with at birth.  Guilty before proven innocent and basically no real way to fight them even when they are wrong.  Prove they are wrong and they don't even have to pay interest on your money that they stole due to an incompetent power mad government employee.</p><p>I know it's a big argument but I wholly support a passive (as far as the citizen is concerned) tax system that is entirely based on consumption.  Whether it is you or that non-profit that goes to buy the hammer is irrelevant.  You pay taxes the moment you buy the hammer.  The government gets its taxes but has no way of knowing who bought the hammer and why.  Additionally, the government has NO EXCUSE to pry into people's private finances anymore.  I would like to see it go back to a court order to get a single bank record instead of them just using the IRS as a tool to collect information.  Information, that goes far beyond just income, but also to expenditures.</p><p>Non-profits would pay taxes just like everyone else for their purchases and I don't see a reason for them to not pay taxes this way.  Cost of doing business, plain and simple.  They need more money, then people have to donate more money to them.  I would think the administrative costs of just keeping the books for the government disappearing would mitigate that significantly.</p><p>Tax exempt just bugs me.  Especially when it is delivered to people who believe in some magic man in the sky.  Form an organization of people around that idea, and you don't get to pay taxes?? really?</p></div>
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<tokenext>Should all associations be given tax-free status ?
If not , then what conditions deserve tax-free status , and should that status be irrevocable once obtained ? I do n't think * any * organization , association , or person should ever have tax-free status period.The way taxes are done now is an invasive active system that is just abused as an information tool for intelligence agencies , and a barcode for every citizen to be forcible tattooed with at birth .
Guilty before proven innocent and basically no real way to fight them even when they are wrong .
Prove they are wrong and they do n't even have to pay interest on your money that they stole due to an incompetent power mad government employee.I know it 's a big argument but I wholly support a passive ( as far as the citizen is concerned ) tax system that is entirely based on consumption .
Whether it is you or that non-profit that goes to buy the hammer is irrelevant .
You pay taxes the moment you buy the hammer .
The government gets its taxes but has no way of knowing who bought the hammer and why .
Additionally , the government has NO EXCUSE to pry into people 's private finances anymore .
I would like to see it go back to a court order to get a single bank record instead of them just using the IRS as a tool to collect information .
Information , that goes far beyond just income , but also to expenditures.Non-profits would pay taxes just like everyone else for their purchases and I do n't see a reason for them to not pay taxes this way .
Cost of doing business , plain and simple .
They need more money , then people have to donate more money to them .
I would think the administrative costs of just keeping the books for the government disappearing would mitigate that significantly.Tax exempt just bugs me .
Especially when it is delivered to people who believe in some magic man in the sky .
Form an organization of people around that idea , and you do n't get to pay taxes ? ?
really ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Should all associations be given tax-free status?
If not, then what conditions deserve tax-free status, and should that status be irrevocable once obtained?I don't think *any* organization, association, or person should ever have tax-free status period.The way taxes are done now is an invasive active system that is just abused as an information tool for intelligence agencies, and a barcode for every citizen to be forcible tattooed with at birth.
Guilty before proven innocent and basically no real way to fight them even when they are wrong.
Prove they are wrong and they don't even have to pay interest on your money that they stole due to an incompetent power mad government employee.I know it's a big argument but I wholly support a passive (as far as the citizen is concerned) tax system that is entirely based on consumption.
Whether it is you or that non-profit that goes to buy the hammer is irrelevant.
You pay taxes the moment you buy the hammer.
The government gets its taxes but has no way of knowing who bought the hammer and why.
Additionally, the government has NO EXCUSE to pry into people's private finances anymore.
I would like to see it go back to a court order to get a single bank record instead of them just using the IRS as a tool to collect information.
Information, that goes far beyond just income, but also to expenditures.Non-profits would pay taxes just like everyone else for their purchases and I don't see a reason for them to not pay taxes this way.
Cost of doing business, plain and simple.
They need more money, then people have to donate more money to them.
I would think the administrative costs of just keeping the books for the government disappearing would mitigate that significantly.Tax exempt just bugs me.
Especially when it is delivered to people who believe in some magic man in the sky.
Form an organization of people around that idea, and you don't get to pay taxes??
really?
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