<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_17_1358202</id>
	<title>What's Coming In KDE 4.4</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1258468680000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>buzzboy writes <i>"If you're wondering what the folks over at KDE have been cooking up for the next major release, KDE 4.4, well, quite a bit as it turns out. In a lengthy interview, KDE core developer and spokesperson for the project Sebastian Kugler details the <a href="http://www.cio.com.au/article/326573/kde\_4\_4\_aims\_take\_free\_desktop\_skyward">myriad changes that are coming with the 4.4 release</a> &mdash; the fifth major release since KDE 4.0 debuted to much criticism nearly two years ago. The project has closed about 18,000 bugs over the past six months and the pace of development is snowballing. The 'heavy-lifting' in libraries and frameworks for 4.0 is now starting to pay off. Perhaps the biggest change is in the development of a semantic desktop. According to Kugler, 'If you tag an image in your image viewer, the tag becomes visible in your desktop search. That's how it should be, right?' There is also a <a href="http://www.cio.com.au/slideshow/326575/sneak-peek-kde-44-screenshots/">picture gallery of KDE 4.4 (svn) screenshots</a> so you can see what it will look like."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>buzzboy writes " If you 're wondering what the folks over at KDE have been cooking up for the next major release , KDE 4.4 , well , quite a bit as it turns out .
In a lengthy interview , KDE core developer and spokesperson for the project Sebastian Kugler details the myriad changes that are coming with the 4.4 release    the fifth major release since KDE 4.0 debuted to much criticism nearly two years ago .
The project has closed about 18,000 bugs over the past six months and the pace of development is snowballing .
The 'heavy-lifting ' in libraries and frameworks for 4.0 is now starting to pay off .
Perhaps the biggest change is in the development of a semantic desktop .
According to Kugler , 'If you tag an image in your image viewer , the tag becomes visible in your desktop search .
That 's how it should be , right ?
' There is also a picture gallery of KDE 4.4 ( svn ) screenshots so you can see what it will look like .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>buzzboy writes "If you're wondering what the folks over at KDE have been cooking up for the next major release, KDE 4.4, well, quite a bit as it turns out.
In a lengthy interview, KDE core developer and spokesperson for the project Sebastian Kugler details the myriad changes that are coming with the 4.4 release — the fifth major release since KDE 4.0 debuted to much criticism nearly two years ago.
The project has closed about 18,000 bugs over the past six months and the pace of development is snowballing.
The 'heavy-lifting' in libraries and frameworks for 4.0 is now starting to pay off.
Perhaps the biggest change is in the development of a semantic desktop.
According to Kugler, 'If you tag an image in your image viewer, the tag becomes visible in your desktop search.
That's how it should be, right?
' There is also a picture gallery of KDE 4.4 (svn) screenshots so you can see what it will look like.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30140844</id>
	<title>Re:Labelling.</title>
	<author>CarpetShark</author>
	<datestamp>1257108420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>My only worry is that... with 4.4 out, are we going to be subjected to KDE5.0 soon?</p></div></blockquote><p>It would fit the pattern.  3.x only started becoming usable around 3.3/3.4, and when it was really good (around 3.6/3.7), 4.0 was committed (in the criminal sense, not the version control sense).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>My only worry is that... with 4.4 out , are we going to be subjected to KDE5.0 soon ? It would fit the pattern .
3.x only started becoming usable around 3.3/3.4 , and when it was really good ( around 3.6/3.7 ) , 4.0 was committed ( in the criminal sense , not the version control sense ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My only worry is that... with 4.4 out, are we going to be subjected to KDE5.0 soon?It would fit the pattern.
3.x only started becoming usable around 3.3/3.4, and when it was really good (around 3.6/3.7), 4.0 was committed (in the criminal sense, not the version control sense).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128848</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30132002</id>
	<title>Re:Please: No More Vertical Text</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258486200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>As far as I am concerned kate is <em>the</em> best text editor in unix today.  It's syntax highlighting is far and away the best (the only thing that compares is scite, which is designed to demo the same editor class kate is based off), it does everything.  I can open up stuff on an ftp server and edit it as if it were local, I can edit any text file with any extension and get correct highlighting, I can do all my building and testing in the terminal.
<br> <br>
And, the loveley vertical text makes options easy to see and not space consuming.  The only thing I wish is that gnome would get their act together and make something as complete as kate so I could have everything looking gtk.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As far as I am concerned kate is the best text editor in unix today .
It 's syntax highlighting is far and away the best ( the only thing that compares is scite , which is designed to demo the same editor class kate is based off ) , it does everything .
I can open up stuff on an ftp server and edit it as if it were local , I can edit any text file with any extension and get correct highlighting , I can do all my building and testing in the terminal .
And , the loveley vertical text makes options easy to see and not space consuming .
The only thing I wish is that gnome would get their act together and make something as complete as kate so I could have everything looking gtk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As far as I am concerned kate is the best text editor in unix today.
It's syntax highlighting is far and away the best (the only thing that compares is scite, which is designed to demo the same editor class kate is based off), it does everything.
I can open up stuff on an ftp server and edit it as if it were local, I can edit any text file with any extension and get correct highlighting, I can do all my building and testing in the terminal.
And, the loveley vertical text makes options easy to see and not space consuming.
The only thing I wish is that gnome would get their act together and make something as complete as kate so I could have everything looking gtk.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129210</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129596</id>
	<title>Re:Manually semantic != semantic</title>
	<author>molnarcs</author>
	<datestamp>1258476480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I saw a preview of the semantic desktop at the Open World Forum in Paris and I think it has the same down-fall as other initiatives: you need to tag most of it yourself.</p><p>

Not entirely true...Nepomuk works with three types of metadata. One is simple metadata stored in files (mp3 tags, timestamps, document texts - we can already search for that. The second is metadata created by the user - this is the one you're talking about. Now dolphin makes it extremely easy to tag files... basically you can assign 1-5 stars with a <b>single click</b> - of course this is something new, takes some time to get used to, but once you get into the habit of tagging your important files like that, it can become quite handy... But the most interesting part for nepomuk is metadata that is usually lost, yet can be still extremely useful:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The most interesting type of metadata is, however, the kind that cannot be extracted easily by an indexer and is not generated by the user manually. This includes for example the url of a file that is downloaded from the internet. Once saved on the local harddisk this information is lost. The same goes for the (rather popular) example of email attachments: Once an email attachment is saved to the local harddisk its connection to the email and with it the connection to the sender is lost. These are just two examples relating to the source of files. There are many more. <a href="http://nepomuk.kde.org/node/1" title="kde.org">http://nepomuk.kde.org/node/1</a> [kde.org]</p> </div></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I saw a preview of the semantic desktop at the Open World Forum in Paris and I think it has the same down-fall as other initiatives : you need to tag most of it yourself .
Not entirely true...Nepomuk works with three types of metadata .
One is simple metadata stored in files ( mp3 tags , timestamps , document texts - we can already search for that .
The second is metadata created by the user - this is the one you 're talking about .
Now dolphin makes it extremely easy to tag files... basically you can assign 1-5 stars with a single click - of course this is something new , takes some time to get used to , but once you get into the habit of tagging your important files like that , it can become quite handy... But the most interesting part for nepomuk is metadata that is usually lost , yet can be still extremely useful : The most interesting type of metadata is , however , the kind that can not be extracted easily by an indexer and is not generated by the user manually .
This includes for example the url of a file that is downloaded from the internet .
Once saved on the local harddisk this information is lost .
The same goes for the ( rather popular ) example of email attachments : Once an email attachment is saved to the local harddisk its connection to the email and with it the connection to the sender is lost .
These are just two examples relating to the source of files .
There are many more .
http : //nepomuk.kde.org/node/1 [ kde.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I saw a preview of the semantic desktop at the Open World Forum in Paris and I think it has the same down-fall as other initiatives: you need to tag most of it yourself.
Not entirely true...Nepomuk works with three types of metadata.
One is simple metadata stored in files (mp3 tags, timestamps, document texts - we can already search for that.
The second is metadata created by the user - this is the one you're talking about.
Now dolphin makes it extremely easy to tag files... basically you can assign 1-5 stars with a single click - of course this is something new, takes some time to get used to, but once you get into the habit of tagging your important files like that, it can become quite handy... But the most interesting part for nepomuk is metadata that is usually lost, yet can be still extremely useful:The most interesting type of metadata is, however, the kind that cannot be extracted easily by an indexer and is not generated by the user manually.
This includes for example the url of a file that is downloaded from the internet.
Once saved on the local harddisk this information is lost.
The same goes for the (rather popular) example of email attachments: Once an email attachment is saved to the local harddisk its connection to the email and with it the connection to the sender is lost.
These are just two examples relating to the source of files.
There are many more.
http://nepomuk.kde.org/node/1 [kde.org] 
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128754</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130532</id>
	<title>Too much?</title>
	<author>B5\_geek</author>
	<datestamp>1258480560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Am I the only one who thinks that GUI design/usage peaked with Fluxbox and all else is lipstick on a pig?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one who thinks that GUI design/usage peaked with Fluxbox and all else is lipstick on a pig ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one who thinks that GUI design/usage peaked with Fluxbox and all else is lipstick on a pig?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30131082</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Andy Dodd</author>
	<datestamp>1258483140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's my feedback:</p><p>You're not getting feedback because the thing you're working on is well hidden.  I didn't know it existed until I read your post.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's my feedback : You 're not getting feedback because the thing you 're working on is well hidden .
I did n't know it existed until I read your post .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's my feedback:You're not getting feedback because the thing you're working on is well hidden.
I didn't know it existed until I read your post.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30134634</id>
	<title>Re:Please: No More Vertical Text</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258451700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Dear KDE devs,</p><p>Please rethink the <a href="http://i26.tinypic.com/2po8o06.jpg" title="tinypic.com" rel="nofollow">vertical text</a> [tinypic.com] that has infected KDE4 like so much ringworm. It's hard to read, hard to use, and completely unnecessary. Also, please stop aping Windows Vista and 7. Or at least stop copying their bad ideas.</p><p>Thanks.</p></div><p>Agreed. If I wanted to use Windows, I'd go out and buy Windows 7. The new desktop feels like something that fell off the back of the Vista lorry. Also, 3D effects have their place; generally in movies where you wear funny spectacles. You don't need 3D to read an e-mail or write a word processor document. And as for the plasmoids... perhaps they would have been better termed spasmoids, would give a new user a hint of expected performance that way...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear KDE devs,Please rethink the vertical text [ tinypic.com ] that has infected KDE4 like so much ringworm .
It 's hard to read , hard to use , and completely unnecessary .
Also , please stop aping Windows Vista and 7 .
Or at least stop copying their bad ideas.Thanks.Agreed .
If I wanted to use Windows , I 'd go out and buy Windows 7 .
The new desktop feels like something that fell off the back of the Vista lorry .
Also , 3D effects have their place ; generally in movies where you wear funny spectacles .
You do n't need 3D to read an e-mail or write a word processor document .
And as for the plasmoids... perhaps they would have been better termed spasmoids , would give a new user a hint of expected performance that way.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear KDE devs,Please rethink the vertical text [tinypic.com] that has infected KDE4 like so much ringworm.
It's hard to read, hard to use, and completely unnecessary.
Also, please stop aping Windows Vista and 7.
Or at least stop copying their bad ideas.Thanks.Agreed.
If I wanted to use Windows, I'd go out and buy Windows 7.
The new desktop feels like something that fell off the back of the Vista lorry.
Also, 3D effects have their place; generally in movies where you wear funny spectacles.
You don't need 3D to read an e-mail or write a word processor document.
And as for the plasmoids... perhaps they would have been better termed spasmoids, would give a new user a hint of expected performance that way...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129210</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30138618</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>kaitos</author>
	<datestamp>1258470900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It seems natural, to me anyway, that I should be able to hit Ctrl-Esc and see what is using all my bandwidth, so, be able to sort it by network using rate, just like I can for CPU and memory, etc. Every program I've seen that does this needed root privileges though, but maybe it can be done with the PolicyKit framework?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems natural , to me anyway , that I should be able to hit Ctrl-Esc and see what is using all my bandwidth , so , be able to sort it by network using rate , just like I can for CPU and memory , etc .
Every program I 've seen that does this needed root privileges though , but maybe it can be done with the PolicyKit framework ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems natural, to me anyway, that I should be able to hit Ctrl-Esc and see what is using all my bandwidth, so, be able to sort it by network using rate, just like I can for CPU and memory, etc.
Every program I've seen that does this needed root privileges though, but maybe it can be done with the PolicyKit framework?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128898</id>
	<title>Full text</title>
	<author>JohnFluxx</author>
	<datestamp>1258473420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was slashdotted, so:</p><p>The final release of KDE 4.4 is due in early 2010, and not since the arrival of KDE 4.0 two years ago has an open source desktop environment been so highly anticipated by the free desktop community. Unlike the anti-climax that was the first KDE 4 release, however, KDE 4.4's developers say this new version will actually deliver on many of the original promises of this next-generation desktop environment -- and then some.<br>If maturity is the measure of a desktop environment then KDE 4.4 will have a lot to live up to, as it represents the fourth major release of the KDE 4 series.<br>With the feature freeze for KDE 4.4 looming in November 2009 -- after which no new features will be added and only bugs will be fixed -- we decided to take a look at what KDE has in store to lift the free desktop to a new paradigm.</p><p>Features, updates and bug fixes</p><p>Like any major version increase, KDE 4.4 will include numerous feature enhancements, updates and bug fixes.</p><p>According to KDE's developers, 4.4 will have an immediate advantage over previous versions by leveraging the latest Qt 4.6 toolkit, which brings a new layout mechanism in QGraphicsView and improved performance, among many other additions. In fact, KDE 4.4.0 was delayed by two weeks until February 2010 to make it possible to release on top of Qt 4.6.</p><p>General enhancements include improved desktop search, better privilege escalation, remote controllable Plasma widgets and more polish to the existing code base.<br>KDE developer and spokesperson for the project, Sebastian Kugler, says it's difficult to determine exact numbers of features, but for 4.4 it would be a very high number.</p><p>"4.4 is a significant release that brings many new features. We have new applications, for example Blogilo, a local applications for writing blogs, allowing for offline editing of articles," Kugler says. "There's is a new network manager (living in the notification area right now, a plasmoid for it is planned for later). Also applications that are not directly shipped with KDE are maturing now. Amarok, Digikam, Konversation and all those applications that are well known from their KDE 3 version are now available in a KDE 4 version."</p><p>The desktop look-and-feel has also received a makeover. The new Air theme for the Plasma desktop shell is more polished and has added subtle animations to improve the user experience.</p><p>"Many small things that make the user's life easier have been done, sometimes something as small as giving feedback from the buttons in the quick launch area of the panel," Kugler says. "Those changes might not be significant on their own, but they add up to a system that feels really well rounded and well done."</p><p>A more visible development in Plasma is the new netbook interface, which will also debut as part of KDE 4.4. Plasma-Netbook will sport a mobile computer form-factor for desktop Plasma widgets.</p><p>Kugler says there are plenty of interesting changes behind the interface, too. KDE 4.4 will ship an authorization framework based on PolicyKit, so applications and the desktop can elevate privileges safely, and administrators can specify exactly what a specific user is allowed to do.</p><p>KDE's developers have also made the desktop more social and "connected". There is a Plasma applet that shows answers to questions from the KDE knowledge base, with the aim of making it easier for new users to find help.</p><p>KDE 4.4 will also make it possible to drag content from Web sites onto the desktop. For example, a picture can be dragged it from the Web browser onto the desktop and a Plasma applet showing this picture is added to the desktop where the file was dropped. The wallpaper can also be set this way or from any remote URL.</p><p>In addition to new features, Kugler says the KDE team has been busy fixing bugs and improving the overall quality of the existing code.</p><p>"We've closed about 18000 bugs over the past 6 months -- so if we match the bug fixing frenzy before 4.3 (I'm quite sure we will), we'll probably h</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was slashdotted , so : The final release of KDE 4.4 is due in early 2010 , and not since the arrival of KDE 4.0 two years ago has an open source desktop environment been so highly anticipated by the free desktop community .
Unlike the anti-climax that was the first KDE 4 release , however , KDE 4.4 's developers say this new version will actually deliver on many of the original promises of this next-generation desktop environment -- and then some.If maturity is the measure of a desktop environment then KDE 4.4 will have a lot to live up to , as it represents the fourth major release of the KDE 4 series.With the feature freeze for KDE 4.4 looming in November 2009 -- after which no new features will be added and only bugs will be fixed -- we decided to take a look at what KDE has in store to lift the free desktop to a new paradigm.Features , updates and bug fixesLike any major version increase , KDE 4.4 will include numerous feature enhancements , updates and bug fixes.According to KDE 's developers , 4.4 will have an immediate advantage over previous versions by leveraging the latest Qt 4.6 toolkit , which brings a new layout mechanism in QGraphicsView and improved performance , among many other additions .
In fact , KDE 4.4.0 was delayed by two weeks until February 2010 to make it possible to release on top of Qt 4.6.General enhancements include improved desktop search , better privilege escalation , remote controllable Plasma widgets and more polish to the existing code base.KDE developer and spokesperson for the project , Sebastian Kugler , says it 's difficult to determine exact numbers of features , but for 4.4 it would be a very high number .
" 4.4 is a significant release that brings many new features .
We have new applications , for example Blogilo , a local applications for writing blogs , allowing for offline editing of articles , " Kugler says .
" There 's is a new network manager ( living in the notification area right now , a plasmoid for it is planned for later ) .
Also applications that are not directly shipped with KDE are maturing now .
Amarok , Digikam , Konversation and all those applications that are well known from their KDE 3 version are now available in a KDE 4 version .
" The desktop look-and-feel has also received a makeover .
The new Air theme for the Plasma desktop shell is more polished and has added subtle animations to improve the user experience .
" Many small things that make the user 's life easier have been done , sometimes something as small as giving feedback from the buttons in the quick launch area of the panel , " Kugler says .
" Those changes might not be significant on their own , but they add up to a system that feels really well rounded and well done .
" A more visible development in Plasma is the new netbook interface , which will also debut as part of KDE 4.4 .
Plasma-Netbook will sport a mobile computer form-factor for desktop Plasma widgets.Kugler says there are plenty of interesting changes behind the interface , too .
KDE 4.4 will ship an authorization framework based on PolicyKit , so applications and the desktop can elevate privileges safely , and administrators can specify exactly what a specific user is allowed to do.KDE 's developers have also made the desktop more social and " connected " .
There is a Plasma applet that shows answers to questions from the KDE knowledge base , with the aim of making it easier for new users to find help.KDE 4.4 will also make it possible to drag content from Web sites onto the desktop .
For example , a picture can be dragged it from the Web browser onto the desktop and a Plasma applet showing this picture is added to the desktop where the file was dropped .
The wallpaper can also be set this way or from any remote URL.In addition to new features , Kugler says the KDE team has been busy fixing bugs and improving the overall quality of the existing code .
" We 've closed about 18000 bugs over the past 6 months -- so if we match the bug fixing frenzy before 4.3 ( I 'm quite sure we will ) , we 'll probably h</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was slashdotted, so:The final release of KDE 4.4 is due in early 2010, and not since the arrival of KDE 4.0 two years ago has an open source desktop environment been so highly anticipated by the free desktop community.
Unlike the anti-climax that was the first KDE 4 release, however, KDE 4.4's developers say this new version will actually deliver on many of the original promises of this next-generation desktop environment -- and then some.If maturity is the measure of a desktop environment then KDE 4.4 will have a lot to live up to, as it represents the fourth major release of the KDE 4 series.With the feature freeze for KDE 4.4 looming in November 2009 -- after which no new features will be added and only bugs will be fixed -- we decided to take a look at what KDE has in store to lift the free desktop to a new paradigm.Features, updates and bug fixesLike any major version increase, KDE 4.4 will include numerous feature enhancements, updates and bug fixes.According to KDE's developers, 4.4 will have an immediate advantage over previous versions by leveraging the latest Qt 4.6 toolkit, which brings a new layout mechanism in QGraphicsView and improved performance, among many other additions.
In fact, KDE 4.4.0 was delayed by two weeks until February 2010 to make it possible to release on top of Qt 4.6.General enhancements include improved desktop search, better privilege escalation, remote controllable Plasma widgets and more polish to the existing code base.KDE developer and spokesperson for the project, Sebastian Kugler, says it's difficult to determine exact numbers of features, but for 4.4 it would be a very high number.
"4.4 is a significant release that brings many new features.
We have new applications, for example Blogilo, a local applications for writing blogs, allowing for offline editing of articles," Kugler says.
"There's is a new network manager (living in the notification area right now, a plasmoid for it is planned for later).
Also applications that are not directly shipped with KDE are maturing now.
Amarok, Digikam, Konversation and all those applications that are well known from their KDE 3 version are now available in a KDE 4 version.
"The desktop look-and-feel has also received a makeover.
The new Air theme for the Plasma desktop shell is more polished and has added subtle animations to improve the user experience.
"Many small things that make the user's life easier have been done, sometimes something as small as giving feedback from the buttons in the quick launch area of the panel," Kugler says.
"Those changes might not be significant on their own, but they add up to a system that feels really well rounded and well done.
"A more visible development in Plasma is the new netbook interface, which will also debut as part of KDE 4.4.
Plasma-Netbook will sport a mobile computer form-factor for desktop Plasma widgets.Kugler says there are plenty of interesting changes behind the interface, too.
KDE 4.4 will ship an authorization framework based on PolicyKit, so applications and the desktop can elevate privileges safely, and administrators can specify exactly what a specific user is allowed to do.KDE's developers have also made the desktop more social and "connected".
There is a Plasma applet that shows answers to questions from the KDE knowledge base, with the aim of making it easier for new users to find help.KDE 4.4 will also make it possible to drag content from Web sites onto the desktop.
For example, a picture can be dragged it from the Web browser onto the desktop and a Plasma applet showing this picture is added to the desktop where the file was dropped.
The wallpaper can also be set this way or from any remote URL.In addition to new features, Kugler says the KDE team has been busy fixing bugs and improving the overall quality of the existing code.
"We've closed about 18000 bugs over the past 6 months -- so if we match the bug fixing frenzy before 4.3 (I'm quite sure we will), we'll probably h</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30132368</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258487340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's some feedback: It never once occurred to me to ever press ctrl-esc, so even though I've been using KDE for years, including playing with all the 4.x releases (and using 4.3 in production on multiple systems) I had no idea that the "System Activity" thing existed.</p><p>So, I dunno, maybe put "discoverable interface" on the to-do list.</p><p>Now that I've seen it, I'd suggest putting some separation between the "kill process" button and the search box. As it is now, I might suspect that I'd type a process name or number into the box and click "kill process" to kill it, when in fact I'd need to select it in the list below to kill a process.</p><p>In fact, I'd just get rid of the "close" button on the bottom and move the "kill process" button down there instead. The window already has a close box on the title bar; having a redundant close button doesn't really add anything, and might lead people to think that selecting a process from the list and clicking "close" would close the selected app, not the system activity window.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's some feedback : It never once occurred to me to ever press ctrl-esc , so even though I 've been using KDE for years , including playing with all the 4.x releases ( and using 4.3 in production on multiple systems ) I had no idea that the " System Activity " thing existed.So , I dunno , maybe put " discoverable interface " on the to-do list.Now that I 've seen it , I 'd suggest putting some separation between the " kill process " button and the search box .
As it is now , I might suspect that I 'd type a process name or number into the box and click " kill process " to kill it , when in fact I 'd need to select it in the list below to kill a process.In fact , I 'd just get rid of the " close " button on the bottom and move the " kill process " button down there instead .
The window already has a close box on the title bar ; having a redundant close button does n't really add anything , and might lead people to think that selecting a process from the list and clicking " close " would close the selected app , not the system activity window .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's some feedback: It never once occurred to me to ever press ctrl-esc, so even though I've been using KDE for years, including playing with all the 4.x releases (and using 4.3 in production on multiple systems) I had no idea that the "System Activity" thing existed.So, I dunno, maybe put "discoverable interface" on the to-do list.Now that I've seen it, I'd suggest putting some separation between the "kill process" button and the search box.
As it is now, I might suspect that I'd type a process name or number into the box and click "kill process" to kill it, when in fact I'd need to select it in the list below to kill a process.In fact, I'd just get rid of the "close" button on the bottom and move the "kill process" button down there instead.
The window already has a close box on the title bar; having a redundant close button doesn't really add anything, and might lead people to think that selecting a process from the list and clicking "close" would close the selected app, not the system activity window.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30137192</id>
	<title>Does this really work?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258461600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does this really work?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this really work ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this really work?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128894</id>
	<title>Hint for choosing default colors</title>
	<author>hansraj</author>
	<datestamp>1258473360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't pick the ones that look like somebody threw up all over the screen!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't pick the ones that look like somebody threw up all over the screen !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't pick the ones that look like somebody threw up all over the screen!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30136450</id>
	<title>Process explorer features</title>
	<author>vdboor</author>
	<datestamp>1258458300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As for my feedback, I'd like to see more features from process explorer available. The tool provides \_a lot\_ for detailed information about a process:<br>- the tcp/ip connections the process has open.<br>- the libraries it has loaded<br>- the environment variables the process has.<br>- the security context of the process (think selinux)<br>- the strings the process contains (both image and memory)<br>- the threads it has open, including their starting point.<br>- the cpu and memory usage per process.</p><p>See <a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show\_bug.cgi?id=127728" title="kde.org">https://bugs.kde.org/show\_bug.cgi?id=127728</a> [kde.org]</p><p>Oh and other nice features of it:<br>- killing an app by pressing delete<br>- a brief highlight of a row on process creation and destruction.</p><p>Could you consider some of these points? It would be yet a reason less to open a terminal, and rival `top`<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As for my feedback , I 'd like to see more features from process explorer available .
The tool provides \ _a lot \ _ for detailed information about a process : - the tcp/ip connections the process has open.- the libraries it has loaded- the environment variables the process has.- the security context of the process ( think selinux ) - the strings the process contains ( both image and memory ) - the threads it has open , including their starting point.- the cpu and memory usage per process.See https : //bugs.kde.org/show \ _bug.cgi ? id = 127728 [ kde.org ] Oh and other nice features of it : - killing an app by pressing delete- a brief highlight of a row on process creation and destruction.Could you consider some of these points ?
It would be yet a reason less to open a terminal , and rival ` top ` : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As for my feedback, I'd like to see more features from process explorer available.
The tool provides \_a lot\_ for detailed information about a process:- the tcp/ip connections the process has open.- the libraries it has loaded- the environment variables the process has.- the security context of the process (think selinux)- the strings the process contains (both image and memory)- the threads it has open, including their starting point.- the cpu and memory usage per process.See https://bugs.kde.org/show\_bug.cgi?id=127728 [kde.org]Oh and other nice features of it:- killing an app by pressing delete- a brief highlight of a row on process creation and destruction.Could you consider some of these points?
It would be yet a reason less to open a terminal, and rival `top` :-)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30140794</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>drago177</author>
	<datestamp>1257107880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not in front of Vista, 7, and have never used KDE, but those task managers have a button to monitor hard drive usage, and since Gnome doesn't offer something similar, I'm wondering if your Activity Monitor does.  If not, that's my suggestion. Its so annoying to be looking at a bunch of processes not taking any CPU, but the HDD light is solid on.  Throwing darts can resolve the issue, but it's just annoying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not in front of Vista , 7 , and have never used KDE , but those task managers have a button to monitor hard drive usage , and since Gnome does n't offer something similar , I 'm wondering if your Activity Monitor does .
If not , that 's my suggestion .
Its so annoying to be looking at a bunch of processes not taking any CPU , but the HDD light is solid on .
Throwing darts can resolve the issue , but it 's just annoying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not in front of Vista, 7, and have never used KDE, but those task managers have a button to monitor hard drive usage, and since Gnome doesn't offer something similar, I'm wondering if your Activity Monitor does.
If not, that's my suggestion.
Its so annoying to be looking at a bunch of processes not taking any CPU, but the HDD light is solid on.
Throwing darts can resolve the issue, but it's just annoying.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128838</id>
	<title>Already slashdotted</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258473120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I couldn't find a version on google cache. So here's the full text:</p><p>The final release of KDE 4.4 is due in early 2010, and not since the arrival of KDE 4.0 two years ago has an open source desktop environment been so highly anticipated by the free desktop community. Unlike the anti-climax that was the first KDE 4 release, however, KDE 4.4's developers say this new version will actually deliver on many of the original promises of this next-generation desktop environment -- and then some.</p><p>If maturity is the measure of a desktop environment then KDE 4.4 will have a lot to live up to, as it represents the fourth major release of the KDE 4 series.<br>Many small things that make the user's life easier have been done. . . Those changes might not be significant on their own, but they add up to a system that feels really well rounded<br>
 -- Sebastian Kugler, KDE spokesperson</p><p>With the feature freeze for KDE 4.4 looming in November 2009 -- after which no new features will be added and only bugs will be fixed -- we decided to take a look at what KDE has in store to lift the free desktop to a new paradigm.</p><p>Features, updates and bug fixes</p><p>Like any major version increase, KDE 4.4 will include numerous feature enhancements, updates and bug fixes.</p><p>According to KDE's developers, 4.4 will have an immediate advantage over previous versions by leveraging the latest Qt 4.6 toolkit, which brings a new layout mechanism in QGraphicsView and improved performance, among many other additions. In fact, KDE 4.4.0 was delayed by two weeks until February 2010 to make it possible to release on top of Qt 4.6.</p><p>General enhancements include improved desktop search, better privilege escalation, remote controllable Plasma widgets and more polish to the existing code base.</p><p>KDE developer and spokesperson for the project, Sebastian Kugler, says it's difficult to determine exact numbers of features, but for 4.4 it would be a very high number.</p><p>"4.4 is a significant release that brings many new features. We have new applications, for example Blogilo, a local applications for writing blogs, allowing for offline editing of articles," Kugler says. "There's is a new network manager (living in the notification area right now, a plasmoid for it is planned for later). Also applications that are not directly shipped with KDE are maturing now. Amarok, Digikam, Konversation and all those applications that are well known from their KDE 3 version are now available in a KDE 4 version."</p><p>The desktop look-and-feel has also received a makeover. The new Air theme for the Plasma desktop shell is more polished and has added subtle animations to improve the user experience.</p><p>"Many small things that make the user's life easier have been done, sometimes something as small as giving feedback from the buttons in the quick launch area of the panel," Kugler says. "Those changes might not be significant on their own, but they add up to a system that feels really well rounded and well done."</p><p>A more visible development in Plasma is the new netbook interface, which will also debut as part of KDE 4.4. Plasma-Netbook will sport a mobile computer form-factor for desktop Plasma widgets.</p><p>Kugler says there are plenty of interesting changes behind the interface, too. KDE 4.4 will ship an authorization framework based on PolicyKit, so applications and the desktop can elevate privileges safely, and administrators can specify exactly what a specific user is allowed to do.</p><p>KDE's developers have also made the desktop more social and "connected". There is a Plasma applet that shows answers to questions from the KDE knowledge base, with the aim of making it easier for new users to find help.</p><p>KDE 4.4 will also make it possible to drag content from Web sites onto the desktop. For example, a picture can be dragged it from the Web browser onto the desktop and a Plasma applet showing this picture is added to the desktop where the file was dropped. The wallpaper can also be set this way or from any remote URL.</p><p>I</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I could n't find a version on google cache .
So here 's the full text : The final release of KDE 4.4 is due in early 2010 , and not since the arrival of KDE 4.0 two years ago has an open source desktop environment been so highly anticipated by the free desktop community .
Unlike the anti-climax that was the first KDE 4 release , however , KDE 4.4 's developers say this new version will actually deliver on many of the original promises of this next-generation desktop environment -- and then some.If maturity is the measure of a desktop environment then KDE 4.4 will have a lot to live up to , as it represents the fourth major release of the KDE 4 series.Many small things that make the user 's life easier have been done .
. .
Those changes might not be significant on their own , but they add up to a system that feels really well rounded -- Sebastian Kugler , KDE spokespersonWith the feature freeze for KDE 4.4 looming in November 2009 -- after which no new features will be added and only bugs will be fixed -- we decided to take a look at what KDE has in store to lift the free desktop to a new paradigm.Features , updates and bug fixesLike any major version increase , KDE 4.4 will include numerous feature enhancements , updates and bug fixes.According to KDE 's developers , 4.4 will have an immediate advantage over previous versions by leveraging the latest Qt 4.6 toolkit , which brings a new layout mechanism in QGraphicsView and improved performance , among many other additions .
In fact , KDE 4.4.0 was delayed by two weeks until February 2010 to make it possible to release on top of Qt 4.6.General enhancements include improved desktop search , better privilege escalation , remote controllable Plasma widgets and more polish to the existing code base.KDE developer and spokesperson for the project , Sebastian Kugler , says it 's difficult to determine exact numbers of features , but for 4.4 it would be a very high number .
" 4.4 is a significant release that brings many new features .
We have new applications , for example Blogilo , a local applications for writing blogs , allowing for offline editing of articles , " Kugler says .
" There 's is a new network manager ( living in the notification area right now , a plasmoid for it is planned for later ) .
Also applications that are not directly shipped with KDE are maturing now .
Amarok , Digikam , Konversation and all those applications that are well known from their KDE 3 version are now available in a KDE 4 version .
" The desktop look-and-feel has also received a makeover .
The new Air theme for the Plasma desktop shell is more polished and has added subtle animations to improve the user experience .
" Many small things that make the user 's life easier have been done , sometimes something as small as giving feedback from the buttons in the quick launch area of the panel , " Kugler says .
" Those changes might not be significant on their own , but they add up to a system that feels really well rounded and well done .
" A more visible development in Plasma is the new netbook interface , which will also debut as part of KDE 4.4 .
Plasma-Netbook will sport a mobile computer form-factor for desktop Plasma widgets.Kugler says there are plenty of interesting changes behind the interface , too .
KDE 4.4 will ship an authorization framework based on PolicyKit , so applications and the desktop can elevate privileges safely , and administrators can specify exactly what a specific user is allowed to do.KDE 's developers have also made the desktop more social and " connected " .
There is a Plasma applet that shows answers to questions from the KDE knowledge base , with the aim of making it easier for new users to find help.KDE 4.4 will also make it possible to drag content from Web sites onto the desktop .
For example , a picture can be dragged it from the Web browser onto the desktop and a Plasma applet showing this picture is added to the desktop where the file was dropped .
The wallpaper can also be set this way or from any remote URL.I</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I couldn't find a version on google cache.
So here's the full text:The final release of KDE 4.4 is due in early 2010, and not since the arrival of KDE 4.0 two years ago has an open source desktop environment been so highly anticipated by the free desktop community.
Unlike the anti-climax that was the first KDE 4 release, however, KDE 4.4's developers say this new version will actually deliver on many of the original promises of this next-generation desktop environment -- and then some.If maturity is the measure of a desktop environment then KDE 4.4 will have a lot to live up to, as it represents the fourth major release of the KDE 4 series.Many small things that make the user's life easier have been done.
. .
Those changes might not be significant on their own, but they add up to a system that feels really well rounded
 -- Sebastian Kugler, KDE spokespersonWith the feature freeze for KDE 4.4 looming in November 2009 -- after which no new features will be added and only bugs will be fixed -- we decided to take a look at what KDE has in store to lift the free desktop to a new paradigm.Features, updates and bug fixesLike any major version increase, KDE 4.4 will include numerous feature enhancements, updates and bug fixes.According to KDE's developers, 4.4 will have an immediate advantage over previous versions by leveraging the latest Qt 4.6 toolkit, which brings a new layout mechanism in QGraphicsView and improved performance, among many other additions.
In fact, KDE 4.4.0 was delayed by two weeks until February 2010 to make it possible to release on top of Qt 4.6.General enhancements include improved desktop search, better privilege escalation, remote controllable Plasma widgets and more polish to the existing code base.KDE developer and spokesperson for the project, Sebastian Kugler, says it's difficult to determine exact numbers of features, but for 4.4 it would be a very high number.
"4.4 is a significant release that brings many new features.
We have new applications, for example Blogilo, a local applications for writing blogs, allowing for offline editing of articles," Kugler says.
"There's is a new network manager (living in the notification area right now, a plasmoid for it is planned for later).
Also applications that are not directly shipped with KDE are maturing now.
Amarok, Digikam, Konversation and all those applications that are well known from their KDE 3 version are now available in a KDE 4 version.
"The desktop look-and-feel has also received a makeover.
The new Air theme for the Plasma desktop shell is more polished and has added subtle animations to improve the user experience.
"Many small things that make the user's life easier have been done, sometimes something as small as giving feedback from the buttons in the quick launch area of the panel," Kugler says.
"Those changes might not be significant on their own, but they add up to a system that feels really well rounded and well done.
"A more visible development in Plasma is the new netbook interface, which will also debut as part of KDE 4.4.
Plasma-Netbook will sport a mobile computer form-factor for desktop Plasma widgets.Kugler says there are plenty of interesting changes behind the interface, too.
KDE 4.4 will ship an authorization framework based on PolicyKit, so applications and the desktop can elevate privileges safely, and administrators can specify exactly what a specific user is allowed to do.KDE's developers have also made the desktop more social and "connected".
There is a Plasma applet that shows answers to questions from the KDE knowledge base, with the aim of making it easier for new users to find help.KDE 4.4 will also make it possible to drag content from Web sites onto the desktop.
For example, a picture can be dragged it from the Web browser onto the desktop and a Plasma applet showing this picture is added to the desktop where the file was dropped.
The wallpaper can also be set this way or from any remote URL.I</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30134138</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258450080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems like you're getting a lot of positive feedback, so here's something negative:<br>Ctrl+Esc is supposed to bring up the main menu (Alt+F1 in KDE IIRC), as seen in Windows and Xfce4! Which reminds me why KDE is so damn annoying... Not only did they assign all the shortcuts wrong, they also decided it would be funny to make some shortcuts that are obviously of interest to regular applications do random other stuff, causing them to either do two things, or only the KDE thing (can't remember).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems like you 're getting a lot of positive feedback , so here 's something negative : Ctrl + Esc is supposed to bring up the main menu ( Alt + F1 in KDE IIRC ) , as seen in Windows and Xfce4 !
Which reminds me why KDE is so damn annoying... Not only did they assign all the shortcuts wrong , they also decided it would be funny to make some shortcuts that are obviously of interest to regular applications do random other stuff , causing them to either do two things , or only the KDE thing ( ca n't remember ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like you're getting a lot of positive feedback, so here's something negative:Ctrl+Esc is supposed to bring up the main menu (Alt+F1 in KDE IIRC), as seen in Windows and Xfce4!
Which reminds me why KDE is so damn annoying... Not only did they assign all the shortcuts wrong, they also decided it would be funny to make some shortcuts that are obviously of interest to regular applications do random other stuff, causing them to either do two things, or only the KDE thing (can't remember).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129284</id>
	<title>Re:Labelling.</title>
	<author>Jurily</author>
	<datestamp>1258475400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>4.2 wasn't bad, and I actually *like* 4.3, I can easily set it up to do what I want/need easily.</p></div><p>I *hate* it. At least the 3D stuff can be turned off now, but there's still a noticeable lag with keyboard input randomly. I mean, seriously. I have a 2x2,4 GHz processor and you tell me you can't display the key I pressed under 0,1 seconds?</p><p>Oh, and <i>please</i> don't try to find and animate every possible program on the run dialog until I actually <i>finished</i> typing the relevant part.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>4.2 was n't bad , and I actually * like * 4.3 , I can easily set it up to do what I want/need easily.I * hate * it .
At least the 3D stuff can be turned off now , but there 's still a noticeable lag with keyboard input randomly .
I mean , seriously .
I have a 2x2,4 GHz processor and you tell me you ca n't display the key I pressed under 0,1 seconds ? Oh , and please do n't try to find and animate every possible program on the run dialog until I actually finished typing the relevant part .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>4.2 wasn't bad, and I actually *like* 4.3, I can easily set it up to do what I want/need easily.I *hate* it.
At least the 3D stuff can be turned off now, but there's still a noticeable lag with keyboard input randomly.
I mean, seriously.
I have a 2x2,4 GHz processor and you tell me you can't display the key I pressed under 0,1 seconds?Oh, and please don't try to find and animate every possible program on the run dialog until I actually finished typing the relevant part.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129360</id>
	<title>Re:Labelling.</title>
	<author>RiotingPacifist</author>
	<datestamp>1258475640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>4.2 wasn't bad, and I actually *like* 4.3, I can easily set it up to do what I want/need easily.</p><p>My only worry is that... with 4.4 out, are we going to be subjected to KDE5.0 soon?</p></div><p>I called it some time ago<br>4.4 = all 1st party tools pretty much finished, 3rd party tools there but not polished<br>4.5 = 3rd party tools good to go</p><p>then somebody will release dbus/kross/plasma malware and they will realise that the whole DE has to be redone from a security perspective!<br>5.0 = an entire re-write with some concept of security and threading (kross for example runs in the same thread as the parent app)<br>5.1<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</p><p>6.0 = port to qt 5?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>4.2 was n't bad , and I actually * like * 4.3 , I can easily set it up to do what I want/need easily.My only worry is that... with 4.4 out , are we going to be subjected to KDE5.0 soon ? I called it some time ago4.4 = all 1st party tools pretty much finished , 3rd party tools there but not polished4.5 = 3rd party tools good to gothen somebody will release dbus/kross/plasma malware and they will realise that the whole DE has to be redone from a security perspective ! 5.0 = an entire re-write with some concept of security and threading ( kross for example runs in the same thread as the parent app ) 5.1 ....6.0 = port to qt 5 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>4.2 wasn't bad, and I actually *like* 4.3, I can easily set it up to do what I want/need easily.My only worry is that... with 4.4 out, are we going to be subjected to KDE5.0 soon?I called it some time ago4.4 = all 1st party tools pretty much finished, 3rd party tools there but not polished4.5 = 3rd party tools good to gothen somebody will release dbus/kross/plasma malware and they will realise that the whole DE has to be redone from a security perspective!5.0 = an entire re-write with some concept of security and threading (kross for example runs in the same thread as the parent app)5.1 ....6.0 = port to qt 5?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30132440</id>
	<title>Dolphin shows raw pictures in thumbnails</title>
	<author>Duketape</author>
	<datestamp>1258487580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hope Dolphin can show raw images and especially the Nikon NEF format in the 4.4 release, else I have to wait a year before I try again.

and yes every 10 minutes a different background is cool!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope Dolphin can show raw images and especially the Nikon NEF format in the 4.4 release , else I have to wait a year before I try again .
and yes every 10 minutes a different background is cool !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope Dolphin can show raw images and especially the Nikon NEF format in the 4.4 release, else I have to wait a year before I try again.
and yes every 10 minutes a different background is cool!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30139300</id>
	<title>keyboard lag and worse</title>
	<author>Ensign Nemo</author>
	<datestamp>1258476240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I run a 1.6G amd turion64 x2 with 1GB of RAM. I have keyboard lag ALL THE TIME.  What really sucks though is if my comp is busy, keystrokes get DROPPED.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I run a 1.6G amd turion64 x2 with 1GB of RAM .
I have keyboard lag ALL THE TIME .
What really sucks though is if my comp is busy , keystrokes get DROPPED .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I run a 1.6G amd turion64 x2 with 1GB of RAM.
I have keyboard lag ALL THE TIME.
What really sucks though is if my comp is busy, keystrokes get DROPPED.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30133616</id>
	<title>Re:Hint for choosing default colors</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258491540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You most be looking at an ubuntu screenshot and not the onces in the article.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You most be looking at an ubuntu screenshot and not the onces in the article .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You most be looking at an ubuntu screenshot and not the onces in the article.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128990</id>
	<title>Sure</title>
	<author>Lord Lode</author>
	<datestamp>1258473900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh yeah, and I really believe that they'll fix all annoyances I have had with KDE 4. I'm a happy KDE 3.5 user. They screwed KDE 4 BY DESIGN, so I suppose the bugs they'll fix now again are just some bugs of fancy unneeded things, and not UI problems with important base components, such as the file manager, the terrible not useful search function of Kate (with its different search term per file instead of sharing them), the extremely hard way to drag a box with the mouse around files in the file manager, etc..., there were so many glitches, I worked with KDE 4 for 2 months, but switched back to 3.5 almost exactly a year ago and probably forgot most of the things that made me angry back then. Oh yes, here's another one: the inability to make two rows of taskbar at the bottom.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh yeah , and I really believe that they 'll fix all annoyances I have had with KDE 4 .
I 'm a happy KDE 3.5 user .
They screwed KDE 4 BY DESIGN , so I suppose the bugs they 'll fix now again are just some bugs of fancy unneeded things , and not UI problems with important base components , such as the file manager , the terrible not useful search function of Kate ( with its different search term per file instead of sharing them ) , the extremely hard way to drag a box with the mouse around files in the file manager , etc... , there were so many glitches , I worked with KDE 4 for 2 months , but switched back to 3.5 almost exactly a year ago and probably forgot most of the things that made me angry back then .
Oh yes , here 's another one : the inability to make two rows of taskbar at the bottom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh yeah, and I really believe that they'll fix all annoyances I have had with KDE 4.
I'm a happy KDE 3.5 user.
They screwed KDE 4 BY DESIGN, so I suppose the bugs they'll fix now again are just some bugs of fancy unneeded things, and not UI problems with important base components, such as the file manager, the terrible not useful search function of Kate (with its different search term per file instead of sharing them), the extremely hard way to drag a box with the mouse around files in the file manager, etc..., there were so many glitches, I worked with KDE 4 for 2 months, but switched back to 3.5 almost exactly a year ago and probably forgot most of the things that made me angry back then.
Oh yes, here's another one: the inability to make two rows of taskbar at the bottom.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128948</id>
	<title>Re:Labelling.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258473600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder if 4.4 is going to be finally stable, or will it be 4.5 or 4.9.</p><p>4.3.3 is still broken in multiple ways.</p><p>Plasma crashes sometimes and still has troubles properly resizing and drawing its widgets.</p><p>Akonadi fails to start even on a pristine configuration, and its sophisticated "why can't I start" diagnosis fails to identify the problem. (I googled out that I had to comment out a line in its config file.)</p><p>Phonon works worse in 4.3 than it did in 4.2 for me. Its xine backend suddenly can't open my soundcard, while its gstreamer backend doesn't open vorbis files. (Other xine based programs work fine, gstreamer has all required plugins installed.)</p><p>KWin has a tendency to crash with compositing enabled (and more rarely without), on a geforce 7 series, which generally has worked rock solid for years.</p><p>Kopete crashes sometimes, Akregator used to crash in 4.2, haven't tested in 4.3 since I migrated to Liferea.</p><p>You could probably find a lot more warts, I don't use that many KDE apps. Bottomline is, even in 4.3 they still haven't gotten such basic functionality as a stable window manager and solid desktop widget drawing and resizing. Instead they're working on ever more features, ever more APIs and deamons that work as centralized points of failure...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if 4.4 is going to be finally stable , or will it be 4.5 or 4.9.4.3.3 is still broken in multiple ways.Plasma crashes sometimes and still has troubles properly resizing and drawing its widgets.Akonadi fails to start even on a pristine configuration , and its sophisticated " why ca n't I start " diagnosis fails to identify the problem .
( I googled out that I had to comment out a line in its config file .
) Phonon works worse in 4.3 than it did in 4.2 for me .
Its xine backend suddenly ca n't open my soundcard , while its gstreamer backend does n't open vorbis files .
( Other xine based programs work fine , gstreamer has all required plugins installed .
) KWin has a tendency to crash with compositing enabled ( and more rarely without ) , on a geforce 7 series , which generally has worked rock solid for years.Kopete crashes sometimes , Akregator used to crash in 4.2 , have n't tested in 4.3 since I migrated to Liferea.You could probably find a lot more warts , I do n't use that many KDE apps .
Bottomline is , even in 4.3 they still have n't gotten such basic functionality as a stable window manager and solid desktop widget drawing and resizing .
Instead they 're working on ever more features , ever more APIs and deamons that work as centralized points of failure.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if 4.4 is going to be finally stable, or will it be 4.5 or 4.9.4.3.3 is still broken in multiple ways.Plasma crashes sometimes and still has troubles properly resizing and drawing its widgets.Akonadi fails to start even on a pristine configuration, and its sophisticated "why can't I start" diagnosis fails to identify the problem.
(I googled out that I had to comment out a line in its config file.
)Phonon works worse in 4.3 than it did in 4.2 for me.
Its xine backend suddenly can't open my soundcard, while its gstreamer backend doesn't open vorbis files.
(Other xine based programs work fine, gstreamer has all required plugins installed.
)KWin has a tendency to crash with compositing enabled (and more rarely without), on a geforce 7 series, which generally has worked rock solid for years.Kopete crashes sometimes, Akregator used to crash in 4.2, haven't tested in 4.3 since I migrated to Liferea.You could probably find a lot more warts, I don't use that many KDE apps.
Bottomline is, even in 4.3 they still haven't gotten such basic functionality as a stable window manager and solid desktop widget drawing and resizing.
Instead they're working on ever more features, ever more APIs and deamons that work as centralized points of failure...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128714</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128754</id>
	<title>Manually semantic != semantic</title>
	<author>geschild</author>
	<datestamp>1258472760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I saw a preview of the semantic desktop at the Open World Forum in Paris and I think it has the same down-fall as other initiatives: you need to tag most of it yourself.</p><p>Other people may be better at this than I am, but I can't even be bothered to tag my e-mails, let alone each and every file. Granted, this system does some 'auto-tagging' but to call it a semantic desktop because of that is a bit rich. YMMV and I like to be persuaded to look again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I saw a preview of the semantic desktop at the Open World Forum in Paris and I think it has the same down-fall as other initiatives : you need to tag most of it yourself.Other people may be better at this than I am , but I ca n't even be bothered to tag my e-mails , let alone each and every file .
Granted , this system does some 'auto-tagging ' but to call it a semantic desktop because of that is a bit rich .
YMMV and I like to be persuaded to look again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I saw a preview of the semantic desktop at the Open World Forum in Paris and I think it has the same down-fall as other initiatives: you need to tag most of it yourself.Other people may be better at this than I am, but I can't even be bothered to tag my e-mails, let alone each and every file.
Granted, this system does some 'auto-tagging' but to call it a semantic desktop because of that is a bit rich.
YMMV and I like to be persuaded to look again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129818</id>
	<title>Re:Tags? It's called meta-data.</title>
	<author>Will.Woodhull</author>
	<datestamp>1258477320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tags are one specific type of metadata, intended for a narrow range of uses.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tags are one specific type of metadata , intended for a narrow range of uses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tags are one specific type of metadata, intended for a narrow range of uses.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128962</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30213190</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>JohnFluxx</author>
	<datestamp>1259075340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; 1. Please add "What's this" help entries to your widgets.</p><p>This is now done, just in time for the string freeze (Tomorrow!).</p><p>When you finally use 4.4, please let me know if you have any improvements for the the WhatsThis entries.  ( johnflux  at gmail dotty com)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; 1 .
Please add " What 's this " help entries to your widgets.This is now done , just in time for the string freeze ( Tomorrow !
) .When you finally use 4.4 , please let me know if you have any improvements for the the WhatsThis entries .
( johnflux at gmail dotty com )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; 1.
Please add "What's this" help entries to your widgets.This is now done, just in time for the string freeze (Tomorrow!
).When you finally use 4.4, please let me know if you have any improvements for the the WhatsThis entries.
( johnflux  at gmail dotty com)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129346</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30138330</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>PhilDin</author>
	<datestamp>1258468620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hope you'll take it as a compliment when I say that I've never considered the usability of the system activity applet. I suppose I don't use it very often but across many different linux installs and many different KDE versions, it just works and doesn't give any nasty surprises. It's possible that this is a rare case of a software project being *done*.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope you 'll take it as a compliment when I say that I 've never considered the usability of the system activity applet .
I suppose I do n't use it very often but across many different linux installs and many different KDE versions , it just works and does n't give any nasty surprises .
It 's possible that this is a rare case of a software project being * done * .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope you'll take it as a compliment when I say that I've never considered the usability of the system activity applet.
I suppose I don't use it very often but across many different linux installs and many different KDE versions, it just works and doesn't give any nasty surprises.
It's possible that this is a rare case of a software project being *done*.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129486</id>
	<title>Re:Last piece</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258476060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah but it still won't properly set up my Panasync S110 monitor.  Xorg issue or not, I hate installing a KDE desktop only to be greeted by 640 x 480 or 1024 x 768...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah but it still wo n't properly set up my Panasync S110 monitor .
Xorg issue or not , I hate installing a KDE desktop only to be greeted by 640 x 480 or 1024 x 768.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah but it still won't properly set up my Panasync S110 monitor.
Xorg issue or not, I hate installing a KDE desktop only to be greeted by 640 x 480 or 1024 x 768...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129080</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129324</id>
	<title>Re:Labelling.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258475460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The KDE team has already said that KDE5 will be a small API break, like KDE2 to KDE3. The whole point of the major changes between KDE3 and KDE4 was to have a modern framework that would last for years to come.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The KDE team has already said that KDE5 will be a small API break , like KDE2 to KDE3 .
The whole point of the major changes between KDE3 and KDE4 was to have a modern framework that would last for years to come .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The KDE team has already said that KDE5 will be a small API break, like KDE2 to KDE3.
The whole point of the major changes between KDE3 and KDE4 was to have a modern framework that would last for years to come.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30134396</id>
	<title>Re:Sure</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258450920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>KDE3 is officially dead. It is not anymore developed. It got it's last versions with security fixes and that's it.</p><p>And no... the KDE3 really is old one. Hard to program and it is not flexible to current computers anymore. You can even get from KDE4 more easier to use and smaller by memoryprint than KDE3 was. The code is very nice and modular. Wihout even mentioning the technological level what it has. KDE4.0 was such step that it can not be counted as KDE 3.5 &gt;&gt; release. But total new project what just copies ideas from KDE3.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>KDE3 is officially dead .
It is not anymore developed .
It got it 's last versions with security fixes and that 's it.And no... the KDE3 really is old one .
Hard to program and it is not flexible to current computers anymore .
You can even get from KDE4 more easier to use and smaller by memoryprint than KDE3 was .
The code is very nice and modular .
Wihout even mentioning the technological level what it has .
KDE4.0 was such step that it can not be counted as KDE 3.5 &gt; &gt; release .
But total new project what just copies ideas from KDE3 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>KDE3 is officially dead.
It is not anymore developed.
It got it's last versions with security fixes and that's it.And no... the KDE3 really is old one.
Hard to program and it is not flexible to current computers anymore.
You can even get from KDE4 more easier to use and smaller by memoryprint than KDE3 was.
The code is very nice and modular.
Wihout even mentioning the technological level what it has.
KDE4.0 was such step that it can not be counted as KDE 3.5 &gt;&gt; release.
But total new project what just copies ideas from KDE3.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130352</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30136524</id>
	<title>Re:Please: No More Vertical Text</title>
	<author>pbhj</author>
	<datestamp>1258458540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like the vert text, the "files open" pane closes if you click the "Documents" side-tab again. Simple.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like the vert text , the " files open " pane closes if you click the " Documents " side-tab again .
Simple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like the vert text, the "files open" pane closes if you click the "Documents" side-tab again.
Simple.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129210</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30131074</id>
	<title>Re:Labelling.</title>
	<author>HermMunster</author>
	<datestamp>1258483080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>None of my machines (13 of them) demonstrate the lag he describes while typing.  An SSD won't solve the problem for him.  And to QCompson, that's not an endorsement.  That guy was listing a unrealistic option most people would never choose.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>None of my machines ( 13 of them ) demonstrate the lag he describes while typing .
An SSD wo n't solve the problem for him .
And to QCompson , that 's not an endorsement .
That guy was listing a unrealistic option most people would never choose .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>None of my machines (13 of them) demonstrate the lag he describes while typing.
An SSD won't solve the problem for him.
And to QCompson, that's not an endorsement.
That guy was listing a unrealistic option most people would never choose.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129880</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130206</id>
	<title>Re:Sure</title>
	<author>TeXMaster</author>
	<datestamp>1258479060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Like you, I was extremely skeptical about KDE4.x, so I sticked to KDE3.5 for quite a while, even after the packages were not available anymore in the Debian unstable repositories. However, I have switched to KDE4 in the early days of September, and I must say that I'm rather satisfied. There are still a few bugs and limitation that bite me from time to time, but they are more than compensated by the plethora of new functionality available. (BTW you can set the number of rows in the task manager in 4.3)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Like you , I was extremely skeptical about KDE4.x , so I sticked to KDE3.5 for quite a while , even after the packages were not available anymore in the Debian unstable repositories .
However , I have switched to KDE4 in the early days of September , and I must say that I 'm rather satisfied .
There are still a few bugs and limitation that bite me from time to time , but they are more than compensated by the plethora of new functionality available .
( BTW you can set the number of rows in the task manager in 4.3 )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like you, I was extremely skeptical about KDE4.x, so I sticked to KDE3.5 for quite a while, even after the packages were not available anymore in the Debian unstable repositories.
However, I have switched to KDE4 in the early days of September, and I must say that I'm rather satisfied.
There are still a few bugs and limitation that bite me from time to time, but they are more than compensated by the plethora of new functionality available.
(BTW you can set the number of rows in the task manager in 4.3)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130914</id>
	<title>Re:Labelling.</title>
	<author>Andy Dodd</author>
	<datestamp>1258482360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have had no such problems with Kubuntu.  It's been quite stable for me.</p><p>You mention in a later post you're using Gentoo - No wonder, Gentoo does a SHIT job of packaging KDE 4.x.  KDE 4.x on Gentoo is an epic crashfest, and even minor system upgrades are often a weekend project due to the fact that 4.x is still ~x86 and ~amd64 (or at least still was as of a month or so ago.)</p><p>It's why all of my new distro installations are Kubuntu and I reformatted and reinstalled my main desktop (from Gentoo to Kubuntu 9.10) last weekend.  File server is next up, probably this weekend if I get a hard drive from Newegg to back up my MythTV recordings with in time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have had no such problems with Kubuntu .
It 's been quite stable for me.You mention in a later post you 're using Gentoo - No wonder , Gentoo does a SHIT job of packaging KDE 4.x .
KDE 4.x on Gentoo is an epic crashfest , and even minor system upgrades are often a weekend project due to the fact that 4.x is still ~ x86 and ~ amd64 ( or at least still was as of a month or so ago .
) It 's why all of my new distro installations are Kubuntu and I reformatted and reinstalled my main desktop ( from Gentoo to Kubuntu 9.10 ) last weekend .
File server is next up , probably this weekend if I get a hard drive from Newegg to back up my MythTV recordings with in time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have had no such problems with Kubuntu.
It's been quite stable for me.You mention in a later post you're using Gentoo - No wonder, Gentoo does a SHIT job of packaging KDE 4.x.
KDE 4.x on Gentoo is an epic crashfest, and even minor system upgrades are often a weekend project due to the fact that 4.x is still ~x86 and ~amd64 (or at least still was as of a month or so ago.
)It's why all of my new distro installations are Kubuntu and I reformatted and reinstalled my main desktop (from Gentoo to Kubuntu 9.10) last weekend.
File server is next up, probably this weekend if I get a hard drive from Newegg to back up my MythTV recordings with in time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128948</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30132948</id>
	<title>Re:My Experience with KDE 4.3: Not So Great</title>
	<author>stilborne</author>
	<datestamp>1258489260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Kooka"</p><p>skanlite is what ships with KDE 4, and there recently was work started to ressurect a full "scanning workflow manager" type app (kooka+ style). aside from batch processing and OCR, skanlite does what kooka did with a rather more streamlined interface.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Kooka " skanlite is what ships with KDE 4 , and there recently was work started to ressurect a full " scanning workflow manager " type app ( kooka + style ) .
aside from batch processing and OCR , skanlite does what kooka did with a rather more streamlined interface .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Kooka"skanlite is what ships with KDE 4, and there recently was work started to ressurect a full "scanning workflow manager" type app (kooka+ style).
aside from batch processing and OCR, skanlite does what kooka did with a rather more streamlined interface.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130452</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130398</id>
	<title>Re:KDE is really heading in the right direction bu</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258479900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Run out of numbers?  Uh, where did you learn math?</p><p>I'm guessing they'll have something worthwhile before KDE 4.9999999.  Or maybe not, this <em>is</em> the Kids Desktop Environment we're talking about (I mean how much cartoon goodness can one take?).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Run out of numbers ?
Uh , where did you learn math ? I 'm guessing they 'll have something worthwhile before KDE 4.9999999 .
Or maybe not , this is the Kids Desktop Environment we 're talking about ( I mean how much cartoon goodness can one take ?
) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Run out of numbers?
Uh, where did you learn math?I'm guessing they'll have something worthwhile before KDE 4.9999999.
Or maybe not, this is the Kids Desktop Environment we're talking about (I mean how much cartoon goodness can one take?
).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129026</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30140716</id>
	<title>Re:Please: No More Vertical Text</title>
	<author>dargaud</author>
	<datestamp>1257106740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I like kate too, but there are many features I miss from my fav Win editor, NoteTabPro. For instance, how do you sort a selected block of text in kate ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I like kate too , but there are many features I miss from my fav Win editor , NoteTabPro .
For instance , how do you sort a selected block of text in kate ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like kate too, but there are many features I miss from my fav Win editor, NoteTabPro.
For instance, how do you sort a selected block of text in kate ?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30132002</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130474</id>
	<title>Re:Sure</title>
	<author>Lurching</author>
	<datestamp>1258480320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree.  I just started using KDE 4 (OpenSuSE 11.2) and absolutely HATE Dolphin.  The major reason I have picked KDE over Gnome was the crappy file manager (Natilus) in Gnome, and now I find that KDE has chosen to emulate the same crappy interface.  If I am looking for files I don't need to see icons for everything!  If I am saving a file I don't want to have previews on for everything, and no choice to go to a list mode - or anything else without giant icons.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
I just started using KDE 4 ( OpenSuSE 11.2 ) and absolutely HATE Dolphin .
The major reason I have picked KDE over Gnome was the crappy file manager ( Natilus ) in Gnome , and now I find that KDE has chosen to emulate the same crappy interface .
If I am looking for files I do n't need to see icons for everything !
If I am saving a file I do n't want to have previews on for everything , and no choice to go to a list mode - or anything else without giant icons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
I just started using KDE 4 (OpenSuSE 11.2) and absolutely HATE Dolphin.
The major reason I have picked KDE over Gnome was the crappy file manager (Natilus) in Gnome, and now I find that KDE has chosen to emulate the same crappy interface.
If I am looking for files I don't need to see icons for everything!
If I am saving a file I don't want to have previews on for everything, and no choice to go to a list mode - or anything else without giant icons.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30137284</id>
	<title>Re:Last piece</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258462020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>KDE 4.3.3 is brilliant, stable, feature rich<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... there is one last piece missing: printing options.</p></div><p>How about a scanning program that's installed by default?  I had to do multiple google searches to find out that Kooka had been replaced and what the replacement was, because the default installation of Kubuntu 9.10 seemed oblivious that I had a scanner.</p><p>The descriptions of HP's all-in-one printer drivers could use some work, too.  After I switched to one that sounded more appropriate, I found out the default one really was the correct driver, even though it didn't mention it supported scanning or my model of printer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>KDE 4.3.3 is brilliant , stable , feature rich ... there is one last piece missing : printing options.How about a scanning program that 's installed by default ?
I had to do multiple google searches to find out that Kooka had been replaced and what the replacement was , because the default installation of Kubuntu 9.10 seemed oblivious that I had a scanner.The descriptions of HP 's all-in-one printer drivers could use some work , too .
After I switched to one that sounded more appropriate , I found out the default one really was the correct driver , even though it did n't mention it supported scanning or my model of printer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>KDE 4.3.3 is brilliant, stable, feature rich ... there is one last piece missing: printing options.How about a scanning program that's installed by default?
I had to do multiple google searches to find out that Kooka had been replaced and what the replacement was, because the default installation of Kubuntu 9.10 seemed oblivious that I had a scanner.The descriptions of HP's all-in-one printer drivers could use some work, too.
After I switched to one that sounded more appropriate, I found out the default one really was the correct driver, even though it didn't mention it supported scanning or my model of printer.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129080</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30139388</id>
	<title>Re:Labelling.</title>
	<author>kayoshiii</author>
	<datestamp>1258476840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually I am experiencing somewhat the opposite - I have used Kubuntu for a conciderably amount of time and I am trying out Arch along with kdemod.... Kubuntu has been pretty much solid for me as far as basic desktop functionality is concerned (I know a lot of the extra software is crap)... But I am getting strange behaviour on Arch at the basic window managment level.<br><br>I do like what arch is doing and like the idea of being on a rolling distro again...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually I am experiencing somewhat the opposite - I have used Kubuntu for a conciderably amount of time and I am trying out Arch along with kdemod.... Kubuntu has been pretty much solid for me as far as basic desktop functionality is concerned ( I know a lot of the extra software is crap ) ... But I am getting strange behaviour on Arch at the basic window managment level.I do like what arch is doing and like the idea of being on a rolling distro again.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually I am experiencing somewhat the opposite - I have used Kubuntu for a conciderably amount of time and I am trying out Arch along with kdemod.... Kubuntu has been pretty much solid for me as far as basic desktop functionality is concerned (I know a lot of the extra software is crap)... But I am getting strange behaviour on Arch at the basic window managment level.I do like what arch is doing and like the idea of being on a rolling distro again...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129448</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128962</id>
	<title>Tags? It's called meta-data.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258473660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why call it tags when everybody else calls that meta-data?</p><p>Oh right, Microsoft and Apple are saying meta-data, and you guys are so obsessed with your hatred of these companies that you call it tags instead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why call it tags when everybody else calls that meta-data ? Oh right , Microsoft and Apple are saying meta-data , and you guys are so obsessed with your hatred of these companies that you call it tags instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why call it tags when everybody else calls that meta-data?Oh right, Microsoft and Apple are saying meta-data, and you guys are so obsessed with your hatred of these companies that you call it tags instead.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30131462</id>
	<title>Re:Sure</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1258484460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>With so many people expressing that sentiment, I'm curious: has KDE 3 seen any significant development since the release of KDE 4?</p></div><p>From what I gather, basically none at all. Nobody's really questioning the way forward, so I guess those who do develop just fix their own itches in KDE4 and live with it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>With so many people expressing that sentiment , I 'm curious : has KDE 3 seen any significant development since the release of KDE 4 ? From what I gather , basically none at all .
Nobody 's really questioning the way forward , so I guess those who do develop just fix their own itches in KDE4 and live with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With so many people expressing that sentiment, I'm curious: has KDE 3 seen any significant development since the release of KDE 4?From what I gather, basically none at all.
Nobody's really questioning the way forward, so I guess those who do develop just fix their own itches in KDE4 and live with it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130352</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30133756</id>
	<title>Re:Please: No More Vertical Text</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258448820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are aware that the space you call wasted is meant to be hidden?</p><p>And what is the problem with horizontal scrolling on text longer than the width of the text area? Not everybody wants their text to be line wrapped,  I do so I just enable it.</p><p>What Windows Vista or 7 ideas are they aping? The critique of the horizontal tabs have existed since at least the 3.x days, long before Vista or Windows 7, so it can't that you are referring to.<br>The accusation that KDE is copying windows have existed even longer, but I've never seen someone actually point to a feature that is a copy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are aware that the space you call wasted is meant to be hidden ? And what is the problem with horizontal scrolling on text longer than the width of the text area ?
Not everybody wants their text to be line wrapped , I do so I just enable it.What Windows Vista or 7 ideas are they aping ?
The critique of the horizontal tabs have existed since at least the 3.x days , long before Vista or Windows 7 , so it ca n't that you are referring to.The accusation that KDE is copying windows have existed even longer , but I 've never seen someone actually point to a feature that is a copy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are aware that the space you call wasted is meant to be hidden?And what is the problem with horizontal scrolling on text longer than the width of the text area?
Not everybody wants their text to be line wrapped,  I do so I just enable it.What Windows Vista or 7 ideas are they aping?
The critique of the horizontal tabs have existed since at least the 3.x days, long before Vista or Windows 7, so it can't that you are referring to.The accusation that KDE is copying windows have existed even longer, but I've never seen someone actually point to a feature that is a copy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129210</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</id>
	<title>System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258473900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I work on the "System Activity" thing (pops up if you press ctrl-esc.  Like Task Manager).  It's hard to get feedback about it.</p><p>So if you're a KDE user and use this, let me know what you think, how you find it, suggest any improvements/features etc.  UI designers, code documenters etc also welcome to give feedback<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p><p>I often see people posting about how KDE/Gnome never listen to UI designers, Usability people, etc.  But I've personally never had any feedback or bug reports about that sort of thing, ever.  So do feel free to file such bugs - us developers are listening.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I work on the " System Activity " thing ( pops up if you press ctrl-esc .
Like Task Manager ) .
It 's hard to get feedback about it.So if you 're a KDE user and use this , let me know what you think , how you find it , suggest any improvements/features etc .
UI designers , code documenters etc also welcome to give feedback : - ) I often see people posting about how KDE/Gnome never listen to UI designers , Usability people , etc .
But I 've personally never had any feedback or bug reports about that sort of thing , ever .
So do feel free to file such bugs - us developers are listening .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work on the "System Activity" thing (pops up if you press ctrl-esc.
Like Task Manager).
It's hard to get feedback about it.So if you're a KDE user and use this, let me know what you think, how you find it, suggest any improvements/features etc.
UI designers, code documenters etc also welcome to give feedback :-)I often see people posting about how KDE/Gnome never listen to UI designers, Usability people, etc.
But I've personally never had any feedback or bug reports about that sort of thing, ever.
So do feel free to file such bugs - us developers are listening.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129774</id>
	<title>Re:Manually semantic != semantic</title>
	<author>Gromgull</author>
	<datestamp>1258477140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, in KDE4 inotify is used to listen to file changes, so if you do move or copy a file, the annotations are moved along.
Although - clearly it still breaks if you copy it to a USB key and move it a different computer, scp it, attach it to an email, etc.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , in KDE4 inotify is used to listen to file changes , so if you do move or copy a file , the annotations are moved along .
Although - clearly it still breaks if you copy it to a USB key and move it a different computer , scp it , attach it to an email , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, in KDE4 inotify is used to listen to file changes, so if you do move or copy a file, the annotations are moved along.
Although - clearly it still breaks if you copy it to a USB key and move it a different computer, scp it, attach it to an email, etc.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129478</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30134378</id>
	<title>Re:Last piece</title>
	<author>PeterBrett</author>
	<datestamp>1258450920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>My biggest problem with KDE 4.3 is the fact that SSL is completely broken. I've stopped using Konqueror altogether because of this, and it causes annoyances in KMail as well. I can't believe they released with a bug that serious.</p></div><p>That is strange. It works fine for me on Fedora. Have you reported the bug to your distribution?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>My biggest problem with KDE 4.3 is the fact that SSL is completely broken .
I 've stopped using Konqueror altogether because of this , and it causes annoyances in KMail as well .
I ca n't believe they released with a bug that serious.That is strange .
It works fine for me on Fedora .
Have you reported the bug to your distribution ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My biggest problem with KDE 4.3 is the fact that SSL is completely broken.
I've stopped using Konqueror altogether because of this, and it causes annoyances in KMail as well.
I can't believe they released with a bug that serious.That is strange.
It works fine for me on Fedora.
Have you reported the bug to your distribution?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129670</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30137798</id>
	<title>Re:KDE is really heading in the right direction bu</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258464720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After 4.9 comes 4.10, then 4.11, then 4.12 . . .</p><p>I don't think they're going to run out of anything, except perhaps patience with their users.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After 4.9 comes 4.10 , then 4.11 , then 4.12 .
. .I do n't think they 're going to run out of anything , except perhaps patience with their users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After 4.9 comes 4.10, then 4.11, then 4.12 .
. .I don't think they're going to run out of anything, except perhaps patience with their users.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129026</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129670</id>
	<title>Re:Last piece</title>
	<author>pavon</author>
	<datestamp>1258476780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I often have to pring select pages from long pdf documents, and for now, I can only do it one-by-one, can't define arbitrary pages or multiple page ranges. That's going to be fixed in KDE 4.4.</p></div><p>That is strange. I am running KDE 4.3 on Debian Squeeze, and that option is there. I use it printing documents from Okular all the time. The printing does have many other issues though. It doesn't have even/odd page option so I can do manual duplexing, and setting page margins has me completely befuddled. When I print a document from Kwrite it doesn't have any margin settings of it's own - and the margin settings for the printer (which I am told are really there to define the unprintable areas for the printer) reset to the defaults each time I change them.</p><p>My biggest problem with KDE 4.3 is the fact that SSL is completely broken. I've stopped using Konqueror altogether because of this, and it causes annoyances in KMail as well. I can't believe they released with a bug that serious.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I often have to pring select pages from long pdf documents , and for now , I can only do it one-by-one , ca n't define arbitrary pages or multiple page ranges .
That 's going to be fixed in KDE 4.4.That is strange .
I am running KDE 4.3 on Debian Squeeze , and that option is there .
I use it printing documents from Okular all the time .
The printing does have many other issues though .
It does n't have even/odd page option so I can do manual duplexing , and setting page margins has me completely befuddled .
When I print a document from Kwrite it does n't have any margin settings of it 's own - and the margin settings for the printer ( which I am told are really there to define the unprintable areas for the printer ) reset to the defaults each time I change them.My biggest problem with KDE 4.3 is the fact that SSL is completely broken .
I 've stopped using Konqueror altogether because of this , and it causes annoyances in KMail as well .
I ca n't believe they released with a bug that serious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I often have to pring select pages from long pdf documents, and for now, I can only do it one-by-one, can't define arbitrary pages or multiple page ranges.
That's going to be fixed in KDE 4.4.That is strange.
I am running KDE 4.3 on Debian Squeeze, and that option is there.
I use it printing documents from Okular all the time.
The printing does have many other issues though.
It doesn't have even/odd page option so I can do manual duplexing, and setting page margins has me completely befuddled.
When I print a document from Kwrite it doesn't have any margin settings of it's own - and the margin settings for the printer (which I am told are really there to define the unprintable areas for the printer) reset to the defaults each time I change them.My biggest problem with KDE 4.3 is the fact that SSL is completely broken.
I've stopped using Konqueror altogether because of this, and it causes annoyances in KMail as well.
I can't believe they released with a bug that serious.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129080</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30135420</id>
	<title>Re:Kugler?</title>
	<author>Eberlin</author>
	<datestamp>1258454220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Arrr!  May you come to see the light and be touched by his GNUdley appendage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Arrr !
May you come to see the light and be touched by his GNUdley appendage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Arrr!
May you come to see the light and be touched by his GNUdley appendage.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130176</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129106</id>
	<title>18,000 bugs?!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258474500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They closed 18,000 bugs?!? Seems too much, to me...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They closed 18,000 bugs ? ! ?
Seems too much , to me.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They closed 18,000 bugs?!?
Seems too much, to me...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30131134</id>
	<title>Re:Manually semantic != semantic</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1258483380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You sort your files into directories right?  Directories with meaning? What's the difference between putting a picture into your "vacation 2009" and tagging it with "vacation" and "2009"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You sort your files into directories right ?
Directories with meaning ?
What 's the difference between putting a picture into your " vacation 2009 " and tagging it with " vacation " and " 2009 " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You sort your files into directories right?
Directories with meaning?
What's the difference between putting a picture into your "vacation 2009" and tagging it with "vacation" and "2009"?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128754</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128848</id>
	<title>Re:Labelling.</title>
	<author>ByOhTek</author>
	<datestamp>1258473180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, I felt like all the jokes about people who buy a MS OS prior to the first SP1 being the "paying beta testers" would have been appropriate for KDE4.0 and 4.1, at least if they charged.</p><p>4.2 wasn't bad, and I actually *like* 4.3, I can easily set it up to do what I want/need easily.</p><p>My only worry is that... with 4.4 out, are we going to be subjected to KDE5.0 soon?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , I felt like all the jokes about people who buy a MS OS prior to the first SP1 being the " paying beta testers " would have been appropriate for KDE4.0 and 4.1 , at least if they charged.4.2 was n't bad , and I actually * like * 4.3 , I can easily set it up to do what I want/need easily.My only worry is that... with 4.4 out , are we going to be subjected to KDE5.0 soon ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I felt like all the jokes about people who buy a MS OS prior to the first SP1 being the "paying beta testers" would have been appropriate for KDE4.0 and 4.1, at least if they charged.4.2 wasn't bad, and I actually *like* 4.3, I can easily set it up to do what I want/need easily.My only worry is that... with 4.4 out, are we going to be subjected to KDE5.0 soon?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128714</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129550</id>
	<title>Re:Last piece</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258476240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm assuming by weary you meant wary?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm assuming by weary you meant wary ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm assuming by weary you meant wary?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129080</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30131168</id>
	<title>Re:cashew</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1258483560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>gesundheit</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>gesundheit</tokentext>
<sentencetext>gesundheit</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130402</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130500</id>
	<title>Re:Kugler?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258480440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Jesus Christ, even the developers' names...</p></div><p>That's 'Jesus Khrist', you insensitive clod.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Jesus Christ , even the developers ' names...That 's 'Jesus Khrist ' , you insensitive clod .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jesus Christ, even the developers' names...That's 'Jesus Khrist', you insensitive clod.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128886</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30149046</id>
	<title>Re:Please: No More Vertical Text</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257071880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I also find the vertical text annoying, so I \_turn\_it\_off\_.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I also find the vertical text annoying , so I \ _turn \ _it \ _off \ _ .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also find the vertical text annoying, so I \_turn\_it\_off\_.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30132002</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30132732</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Balinares</author>
	<datestamp>1258488600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh, brilliant. Thank you for the opportunity.</p><p>First, the positive: the System Activity app is excellent, one of the pieces of KDE that doesn't piss me off of late. I was particularly impressed when I noticed that System Activity takes note when I strace a process and adjusts its display accordingly. It's the small details.</p><p>Now, on to the feature request: more detailed memory displays. Based on the mouseover text for the memory column I am not sure if the calculation is made based on the contents<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/proc/&lt;pid&gt;/smap (Shared\_* and Private\_*) or guestimated from RSS and VSZ as used to be traditional. A way to group processes by library loaded and (private) memory allocated for those libraries would also be great. No big deal if you find it too much trouble to implement, though: SysAct is already pretty damn fine and I <i>like</i> it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , brilliant .
Thank you for the opportunity.First , the positive : the System Activity app is excellent , one of the pieces of KDE that does n't piss me off of late .
I was particularly impressed when I noticed that System Activity takes note when I strace a process and adjusts its display accordingly .
It 's the small details.Now , on to the feature request : more detailed memory displays .
Based on the mouseover text for the memory column I am not sure if the calculation is made based on the contents /proc//smap ( Shared \ _ * and Private \ _ * ) or guestimated from RSS and VSZ as used to be traditional .
A way to group processes by library loaded and ( private ) memory allocated for those libraries would also be great .
No big deal if you find it too much trouble to implement , though : SysAct is already pretty damn fine and I like it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, brilliant.
Thank you for the opportunity.First, the positive: the System Activity app is excellent, one of the pieces of KDE that doesn't piss me off of late.
I was particularly impressed when I noticed that System Activity takes note when I strace a process and adjusts its display accordingly.
It's the small details.Now, on to the feature request: more detailed memory displays.
Based on the mouseover text for the memory column I am not sure if the calculation is made based on the contents /proc//smap (Shared\_* and Private\_*) or guestimated from RSS and VSZ as used to be traditional.
A way to group processes by library loaded and (private) memory allocated for those libraries would also be great.
No big deal if you find it too much trouble to implement, though: SysAct is already pretty damn fine and I like it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129880</id>
	<title>Re:Labelling.</title>
	<author>EvilNTUser</author>
	<datestamp>1258477560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While I don't know if this will help in your particular situation, I've found random sluggishness like that much reduced after I got an Intel SSD.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While I do n't know if this will help in your particular situation , I 've found random sluggishness like that much reduced after I got an Intel SSD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I don't know if this will help in your particular situation, I've found random sluggishness like that much reduced after I got an Intel SSD.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129284</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130534</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258480560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I find myself having to kill a process now and then or report a bug in which I needed the PID - rather than hiding this info in a tool tip on mouse over it would be nice to see it in it's own column. Other than that it's been very useful. Thanks!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I find myself having to kill a process now and then or report a bug in which I needed the PID - rather than hiding this info in a tool tip on mouse over it would be nice to see it in it 's own column .
Other than that it 's been very useful .
Thanks !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find myself having to kill a process now and then or report a bug in which I needed the PID - rather than hiding this info in a tool tip on mouse over it would be nice to see it in it's own column.
Other than that it's been very useful.
Thanks!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130452</id>
	<title>My Experience with KDE 4.3: Not So Great</title>
	<author>RAMMS+EIN</author>
	<datestamp>1258480200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Although I haven't really used KDE since the 2.x series, there are a couple of KDE applications I used until recently. Among those are Konqueror, Okular, and Kooka.</p><p>I switched to KDE 4.3 from KDE 3.5 when replacing my Debian installation with Ubuntu karmic, and while I liked some things, I eventually quit using what few KDE apps I had been using, because there were just too many annoyances. For example, being unable to copy text out of Konqueror, occasional crashes, and Kooka having gone missing altogether.</p><p>My question is: Are the problems I've been experiencing problems with KDE 4.3, or are they specific to the Ubuntu version I have been using?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Although I have n't really used KDE since the 2.x series , there are a couple of KDE applications I used until recently .
Among those are Konqueror , Okular , and Kooka.I switched to KDE 4.3 from KDE 3.5 when replacing my Debian installation with Ubuntu karmic , and while I liked some things , I eventually quit using what few KDE apps I had been using , because there were just too many annoyances .
For example , being unable to copy text out of Konqueror , occasional crashes , and Kooka having gone missing altogether.My question is : Are the problems I 've been experiencing problems with KDE 4.3 , or are they specific to the Ubuntu version I have been using ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although I haven't really used KDE since the 2.x series, there are a couple of KDE applications I used until recently.
Among those are Konqueror, Okular, and Kooka.I switched to KDE 4.3 from KDE 3.5 when replacing my Debian installation with Ubuntu karmic, and while I liked some things, I eventually quit using what few KDE apps I had been using, because there were just too many annoyances.
For example, being unable to copy text out of Konqueror, occasional crashes, and Kooka having gone missing altogether.My question is: Are the problems I've been experiencing problems with KDE 4.3, or are they specific to the Ubuntu version I have been using?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128714</id>
	<title>Labelling.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258472580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is a pity that KDE 4.0 wasn't really ready to be a 4.0 release, and the controversy wasn't wholly undeserved; but I've actually been pretty pleased at how KDE 4.X is shaping up.<br> <br>

Had prior 4.X releases been 3.9X releases, with 4.0 coming soon, I suspect that the mood would have been largely positive.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is a pity that KDE 4.0 was n't really ready to be a 4.0 release , and the controversy was n't wholly undeserved ; but I 've actually been pretty pleased at how KDE 4.X is shaping up .
Had prior 4.X releases been 3.9X releases , with 4.0 coming soon , I suspect that the mood would have been largely positive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is a pity that KDE 4.0 wasn't really ready to be a 4.0 release, and the controversy wasn't wholly undeserved; but I've actually been pretty pleased at how KDE 4.X is shaping up.
Had prior 4.X releases been 3.9X releases, with 4.0 coming soon, I suspect that the mood would have been largely positive.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130360</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258479720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like it, it's nice. However I wonder why it's not merged with the System monitors so anyone can access the list of processes *and* graphs by using Ctr+esc ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like it , it 's nice .
However I wonder why it 's not merged with the System monitors so anyone can access the list of processes * and * graphs by using Ctr + esc ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like it, it's nice.
However I wonder why it's not merged with the System monitors so anyone can access the list of processes *and* graphs by using Ctr+esc ?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30138488</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258469880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>2) the graphs don't have enough settings (for example opaque fill instead of translucent (or no fill, or no smoothing on the lines)</p></div><p>Yeah and a color dropdown for the lines, with RGB and HSV options. And line thickness. Maybe the option to change the background color, and the alpha of any solid parts of the graph. Would be good to choose different smoothing options, and different line caps too.</p><p>You should be able to save &amp; load different sets of graph settings. Maybe have an auto loaded so they can change at different times of the day. Perhaps link it to a weather widget so it can change if it starts to rain.</p><p>Oh - background images! Yeah you need background images displayed in the graph too. Maybe let us tint them &amp; distort them.</p><p>Idiot.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>2 ) the graphs do n't have enough settings ( for example opaque fill instead of translucent ( or no fill , or no smoothing on the lines ) Yeah and a color dropdown for the lines , with RGB and HSV options .
And line thickness .
Maybe the option to change the background color , and the alpha of any solid parts of the graph .
Would be good to choose different smoothing options , and different line caps too.You should be able to save &amp; load different sets of graph settings .
Maybe have an auto loaded so they can change at different times of the day .
Perhaps link it to a weather widget so it can change if it starts to rain.Oh - background images !
Yeah you need background images displayed in the graph too .
Maybe let us tint them &amp; distort them.Idiot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2) the graphs don't have enough settings (for example opaque fill instead of translucent (or no fill, or no smoothing on the lines)Yeah and a color dropdown for the lines, with RGB and HSV options.
And line thickness.
Maybe the option to change the background color, and the alpha of any solid parts of the graph.
Would be good to choose different smoothing options, and different line caps too.You should be able to save &amp; load different sets of graph settings.
Maybe have an auto loaded so they can change at different times of the day.
Perhaps link it to a weather widget so it can change if it starts to rain.Oh - background images!
Yeah you need background images displayed in the graph too.
Maybe let us tint them &amp; distort them.Idiot.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130426</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128780</id>
	<title>Right?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258472880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; 'If you tag an image in your image viewer, the tag becomes visible in your desktop search. That's how it should be, right?'</p><p>Well, actually, I don't care either way. Just as long as it works, and works consistently.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; 'If you tag an image in your image viewer , the tag becomes visible in your desktop search .
That 's how it should be , right ?
'Well , actually , I do n't care either way .
Just as long as it works , and works consistently .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; 'If you tag an image in your image viewer, the tag becomes visible in your desktop search.
That's how it should be, right?
'Well, actually, I don't care either way.
Just as long as it works, and works consistently.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30133480</id>
	<title>Mac</title>
	<author>fulldecent</author>
	<datestamp>1258491120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mac support.</p><p>I'm waiting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mac support.I 'm waiting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mac support.I'm waiting.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30140458</id>
	<title>Re:Please: No More Vertical Text</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258486200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>jedit... java but it has kitchen sink</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>jedit... java but it has kitchen sink</tokentext>
<sentencetext>jedit... java but it has kitchen sink</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30132002</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129202</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>hierofalcon</author>
	<datestamp>1258475040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wasn't aware it existed, but tried it and it seemed modestly useful.</p><p>It looked like it had most of the needed options. I almost always am working in a konsole window though, so htop is what I usually use.</p><p>I would think an option in the kill process screen to select the signal to send would be the one item I missed most. I usually prefer to send SIGHUP or SIGTERM to allow a graceful shutdown rather than kill. This is particularly useful for the ever present mysqld daemon that starts for things like Amarok or kopete or whatever it is that keep NFS shares mounted long after the user has signed off. artsd is also frequently one that needs to get shot.</p><p>Ask and thou shalt receive...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was n't aware it existed , but tried it and it seemed modestly useful.It looked like it had most of the needed options .
I almost always am working in a konsole window though , so htop is what I usually use.I would think an option in the kill process screen to select the signal to send would be the one item I missed most .
I usually prefer to send SIGHUP or SIGTERM to allow a graceful shutdown rather than kill .
This is particularly useful for the ever present mysqld daemon that starts for things like Amarok or kopete or whatever it is that keep NFS shares mounted long after the user has signed off .
artsd is also frequently one that needs to get shot.Ask and thou shalt receive.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wasn't aware it existed, but tried it and it seemed modestly useful.It looked like it had most of the needed options.
I almost always am working in a konsole window though, so htop is what I usually use.I would think an option in the kill process screen to select the signal to send would be the one item I missed most.
I usually prefer to send SIGHUP or SIGTERM to allow a graceful shutdown rather than kill.
This is particularly useful for the ever present mysqld daemon that starts for things like Amarok or kopete or whatever it is that keep NFS shares mounted long after the user has signed off.
artsd is also frequently one that needs to get shot.Ask and thou shalt receive...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130150</id>
	<title>Re:Tags? It's called meta-data.</title>
	<author>bickerdyke</author>
	<datestamp>1258478760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tags are a subset of metadata.</p><p>EXIF Rotation or resolution are metadata, as are caption and size information of a pdf. But neither are "tags"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tags are a subset of metadata.EXIF Rotation or resolution are metadata , as are caption and size information of a pdf .
But neither are " tags "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tags are a subset of metadata.EXIF Rotation or resolution are metadata, as are caption and size information of a pdf.
But neither are "tags"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128962</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129372</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Lemming Mark</author>
	<datestamp>1258475640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use it occasionally and I like it.  I particularly like the graphic improvements in the task list, such as the integrated bar graphs.  I used to find that it took too long to appear to really be useful but - for some reason - it's really quite responsive on this system now, so that's better.  I used to find it confusing that it resembled the system monitor app so closely and yet I couldn't add sheets to it, etc.  It now looks like it's own app, so I think that's an improvement.  I suppose it might be nice if there was an option / command to jump me to the full system monitor (or a configurable so that that would appear on Ctrl-Esc instead, I guess).</p><p>But generally I think the task manager thingy has improved a lot for KDE4 and I really like it - nice work!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use it occasionally and I like it .
I particularly like the graphic improvements in the task list , such as the integrated bar graphs .
I used to find that it took too long to appear to really be useful but - for some reason - it 's really quite responsive on this system now , so that 's better .
I used to find it confusing that it resembled the system monitor app so closely and yet I could n't add sheets to it , etc .
It now looks like it 's own app , so I think that 's an improvement .
I suppose it might be nice if there was an option / command to jump me to the full system monitor ( or a configurable so that that would appear on Ctrl-Esc instead , I guess ) .But generally I think the task manager thingy has improved a lot for KDE4 and I really like it - nice work !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use it occasionally and I like it.
I particularly like the graphic improvements in the task list, such as the integrated bar graphs.
I used to find that it took too long to appear to really be useful but - for some reason - it's really quite responsive on this system now, so that's better.
I used to find it confusing that it resembled the system monitor app so closely and yet I couldn't add sheets to it, etc.
It now looks like it's own app, so I think that's an improvement.
I suppose it might be nice if there was an option / command to jump me to the full system monitor (or a configurable so that that would appear on Ctrl-Esc instead, I guess).But generally I think the task manager thingy has improved a lot for KDE4 and I really like it - nice work!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30133910</id>
	<title>Re:KDE is really heading in the right direction bu</title>
	<author>tibman</author>
	<datestamp>1258449360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Couldn't they just go to 4.10 and up?  I know there are many different standards for versioning numbers but they look like 'Major.Minor' with no '.Revision'.  N/M they do use<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.Revision?  I'm currently running KDE 3.5.9.  4.10.x should still work though, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Could n't they just go to 4.10 and up ?
I know there are many different standards for versioning numbers but they look like 'Major.Minor ' with no '.Revision' .
N/M they do use .Revision ?
I 'm currently running KDE 3.5.9 .
4.10.x should still work though , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Couldn't they just go to 4.10 and up?
I know there are many different standards for versioning numbers but they look like 'Major.Minor' with no '.Revision'.
N/M they do use .Revision?
I'm currently running KDE 3.5.9.
4.10.x should still work though, right?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129026</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129478</id>
	<title>Re:Manually semantic != semantic</title>
	<author>dargaud</author>
	<datestamp>1258476000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I DO NOT want semantic tags. The reason is simple: they are LOST when you copy or do anything with the files. If you have important info about the file: put it in the filename. Or inside the file (exif tags for images, ID3 tags for mp3s, etc). Or in a txt file with the same name next to it. The rest is no better than putting varnish on a turd: it works only as long as you don't get too close.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I DO NOT want semantic tags .
The reason is simple : they are LOST when you copy or do anything with the files .
If you have important info about the file : put it in the filename .
Or inside the file ( exif tags for images , ID3 tags for mp3s , etc ) .
Or in a txt file with the same name next to it .
The rest is no better than putting varnish on a turd : it works only as long as you do n't get too close .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I DO NOT want semantic tags.
The reason is simple: they are LOST when you copy or do anything with the files.
If you have important info about the file: put it in the filename.
Or inside the file (exif tags for images, ID3 tags for mp3s, etc).
Or in a txt file with the same name next to it.
The rest is no better than putting varnish on a turd: it works only as long as you don't get too close.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128754</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30141412</id>
	<title>Re:KDE is really heading in the right direction bu</title>
	<author>IrquiM</author>
	<datestamp>1257073440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>how about KDE 4.10 ? or 4.100 ?</p><p>Running out? Don't think so. I'm looking forward to running KDE 4.55</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>how about KDE 4.10 ?
or 4.100 ? Running out ?
Do n't think so .
I 'm looking forward to running KDE 4.55</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how about KDE 4.10 ?
or 4.100 ?Running out?
Don't think so.
I'm looking forward to running KDE 4.55</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129026</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130096</id>
	<title>Re:Hint for choosing default colors</title>
	<author>bickerdyke</author>
	<datestamp>1258478580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>in BLUE?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>in BLUE ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in BLUE?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128894</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30141262</id>
	<title>Re:Sure</title>
	<author>Lord Lode</author>
	<datestamp>1257071400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Back when KDE 4 didn't exist yet, I also hated Nautilus. But actually currently Nautilus 2.28.1 seems quite OK to me, there's nothing about me that irritates me (except a few things and that is that you can't drag a box around files to select them and that you can't get the right click menu with "create new folder" and "open in terminal" if the file list is as big as the screen because it only opens the file right click menu then, but that's just a minor irritation because the options are also in the File menu). It's much less irritating than both file managers in KDE 4. Either Nautilus has simply become good over the years, or I'm just more tolerant after having seen KDE 4.</p><p>But I'm very scared for what they're going to do with Gnome 3. Also ruin everything one is used to and create a new, irritating, user interface that tries to be innovative, but destroys all handy little things that one is used to after years and years of graphical OS usage?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Back when KDE 4 did n't exist yet , I also hated Nautilus .
But actually currently Nautilus 2.28.1 seems quite OK to me , there 's nothing about me that irritates me ( except a few things and that is that you ca n't drag a box around files to select them and that you ca n't get the right click menu with " create new folder " and " open in terminal " if the file list is as big as the screen because it only opens the file right click menu then , but that 's just a minor irritation because the options are also in the File menu ) .
It 's much less irritating than both file managers in KDE 4 .
Either Nautilus has simply become good over the years , or I 'm just more tolerant after having seen KDE 4.But I 'm very scared for what they 're going to do with Gnome 3 .
Also ruin everything one is used to and create a new , irritating , user interface that tries to be innovative , but destroys all handy little things that one is used to after years and years of graphical OS usage ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Back when KDE 4 didn't exist yet, I also hated Nautilus.
But actually currently Nautilus 2.28.1 seems quite OK to me, there's nothing about me that irritates me (except a few things and that is that you can't drag a box around files to select them and that you can't get the right click menu with "create new folder" and "open in terminal" if the file list is as big as the screen because it only opens the file right click menu then, but that's just a minor irritation because the options are also in the File menu).
It's much less irritating than both file managers in KDE 4.
Either Nautilus has simply become good over the years, or I'm just more tolerant after having seen KDE 4.But I'm very scared for what they're going to do with Gnome 3.
Also ruin everything one is used to and create a new, irritating, user interface that tries to be innovative, but destroys all handy little things that one is used to after years and years of graphical OS usage?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130818</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258481940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like it. Renice feature is good. I dont need to do it from command line.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like it .
Renice feature is good .
I dont need to do it from command line .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like it.
Renice feature is good.
I dont need to do it from command line.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129026</id>
	<title>KDE is really heading in the right direction but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258474140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>they'll run out of version numbers in the 4.x series before the series reaches its full potential. I'm really looking forward to using 4.4 but, since it will be the first release that really starts developing the ideas that KDE wanted to implement in the 4 series, the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.4 increment seems a bit high. Still, 4.3 already does what Windows 7 and OSX only hint at moving towards so 4.4 will be interesting.</htmltext>
<tokenext>they 'll run out of version numbers in the 4.x series before the series reaches its full potential .
I 'm really looking forward to using 4.4 but , since it will be the first release that really starts developing the ideas that KDE wanted to implement in the 4 series , the .4 increment seems a bit high .
Still , 4.3 already does what Windows 7 and OSX only hint at moving towards so 4.4 will be interesting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they'll run out of version numbers in the 4.x series before the series reaches its full potential.
I'm really looking forward to using 4.4 but, since it will be the first release that really starts developing the ideas that KDE wanted to implement in the 4 series, the .4 increment seems a bit high.
Still, 4.3 already does what Windows 7 and OSX only hint at moving towards so 4.4 will be interesting.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30133272</id>
	<title>Re:Manually semantic != semantic</title>
	<author>spitzak</author>
	<datestamp>1258490220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>What's the difference between putting a picture into your "vacation 2009" and tagging it with "vacation" and "2009"?</i></p><p>The difference is that if you then decide to tag half of them with "summer" then that half are no longer in the "vacation 2009" directory.</p><p>Symbolic links can make this somewhat work, but as soon as you have a number of tags that form intersecting sets the number of directory entries grows to m*2^n (where m is the number of files and n is the number of different tags). This is far larger than the m*n space needed by tags even with a stupid implementation.</p><p>I do however believe a working system can be built where POSIX file api still can be used. A tag is a directory, and a whole tree of them is just a directory listing the files in that. So<nobr> <wbr></nobr>./vacation/2009/ and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>./2009/vacation/ would both have the same files: all the ones tagged with those.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>./vacation/2009/summer would have files tagged with all three.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's the difference between putting a picture into your " vacation 2009 " and tagging it with " vacation " and " 2009 " ? The difference is that if you then decide to tag half of them with " summer " then that half are no longer in the " vacation 2009 " directory.Symbolic links can make this somewhat work , but as soon as you have a number of tags that form intersecting sets the number of directory entries grows to m * 2 ^ n ( where m is the number of files and n is the number of different tags ) .
This is far larger than the m * n space needed by tags even with a stupid implementation.I do however believe a working system can be built where POSIX file api still can be used .
A tag is a directory , and a whole tree of them is just a directory listing the files in that .
So ./vacation/2009/ and ./2009/vacation/ would both have the same files : all the ones tagged with those .
./vacation/2009/summer would have files tagged with all three .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the difference between putting a picture into your "vacation 2009" and tagging it with "vacation" and "2009"?The difference is that if you then decide to tag half of them with "summer" then that half are no longer in the "vacation 2009" directory.Symbolic links can make this somewhat work, but as soon as you have a number of tags that form intersecting sets the number of directory entries grows to m*2^n (where m is the number of files and n is the number of different tags).
This is far larger than the m*n space needed by tags even with a stupid implementation.I do however believe a working system can be built where POSIX file api still can be used.
A tag is a directory, and a whole tree of them is just a directory listing the files in that.
So ./vacation/2009/ and ./2009/vacation/ would both have the same files: all the ones tagged with those.
./vacation/2009/summer would have files tagged with all three.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30131134</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129198</id>
	<title>Re:Manually semantic != semantic</title>
	<author>Abcd1234</author>
	<datestamp>1258475040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I saw a preview of the semantic desktop at the Open World Forum in Paris and I think it has the same down-fall as other initiatives: you need to tag most of it yourself.</i></p><p>Umm... so?  Last I checked, you had to manually organize your various files, documents, etc, into folders, and given that tags are just a superset of the functionality provided by folders, I don't see why one wouldn't expect to have to do the same with tags.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I saw a preview of the semantic desktop at the Open World Forum in Paris and I think it has the same down-fall as other initiatives : you need to tag most of it yourself.Umm... so ? Last I checked , you had to manually organize your various files , documents , etc , into folders , and given that tags are just a superset of the functionality provided by folders , I do n't see why one would n't expect to have to do the same with tags .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I saw a preview of the semantic desktop at the Open World Forum in Paris and I think it has the same down-fall as other initiatives: you need to tag most of it yourself.Umm... so?  Last I checked, you had to manually organize your various files, documents, etc, into folders, and given that tags are just a superset of the functionality provided by folders, I don't see why one wouldn't expect to have to do the same with tags.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128754</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129210</id>
	<title>Please: No More Vertical Text</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258475100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dear KDE devs,</p><p>Please rethink the <a href="http://i26.tinypic.com/2po8o06.jpg" title="tinypic.com">vertical text</a> [tinypic.com] that has infected KDE4 like so much ringworm. It's hard to read, hard to use, and completely unnecessary. Also, please stop aping Windows Vista and 7. Or at least stop copying their bad ideas.</p><p>Thanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear KDE devs,Please rethink the vertical text [ tinypic.com ] that has infected KDE4 like so much ringworm .
It 's hard to read , hard to use , and completely unnecessary .
Also , please stop aping Windows Vista and 7 .
Or at least stop copying their bad ideas.Thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear KDE devs,Please rethink the vertical text [tinypic.com] that has infected KDE4 like so much ringworm.
It's hard to read, hard to use, and completely unnecessary.
Also, please stop aping Windows Vista and 7.
Or at least stop copying their bad ideas.Thanks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30132542</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258487880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Great functionality, no useless frills; seems like a good (h)top replacement. Thank you for your work.</p><p>If you want a suggestion:<br>* memory size "human readable" option, so automatic per-line kB, MB, GB choice to always have values in a range 0.25 to 249 or some such (what convention do other programs use?); and perhaps make that KiB, MiB, GiB...; perhaps use that as a replacement for the K, M, G options (who could ever need those?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)).</p><p>I've been using htop until now, but your app is so natural and easy to use, that I think I'll switch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Great functionality , no useless frills ; seems like a good ( h ) top replacement .
Thank you for your work.If you want a suggestion : * memory size " human readable " option , so automatic per-line kB , MB , GB choice to always have values in a range 0.25 to 249 or some such ( what convention do other programs use ?
) ; and perhaps make that KiB , MiB , GiB... ; perhaps use that as a replacement for the K , M , G options ( who could ever need those ?
; - ) ) .I 've been using htop until now , but your app is so natural and easy to use , that I think I 'll switch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great functionality, no useless frills; seems like a good (h)top replacement.
Thank you for your work.If you want a suggestion:* memory size "human readable" option, so automatic per-line kB, MB, GB choice to always have values in a range 0.25 to 249 or some such (what convention do other programs use?
); and perhaps make that KiB, MiB, GiB...; perhaps use that as a replacement for the K, M, G options (who could ever need those?
;-)).I've been using htop until now, but your app is so natural and easy to use, that I think I'll switch.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30180914</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>marcosdumay</author>
	<datestamp>1258728420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is a great app! I didn't know it, but I liked to have ps on a GUI. Now, is there a way to become superuser? (I'm probably using a very old version of it, the one that comes with Debian Lenny, so I understand that there may already be an quite evident way on newer versions.)</p><p>Also, it is quite well hiden. It should come with some<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.desktop shortcut (I don't know if it is done by the distros or by you).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is a great app !
I did n't know it , but I liked to have ps on a GUI .
Now , is there a way to become superuser ?
( I 'm probably using a very old version of it , the one that comes with Debian Lenny , so I understand that there may already be an quite evident way on newer versions .
) Also , it is quite well hiden .
It should come with some .desktop shortcut ( I do n't know if it is done by the distros or by you ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is a great app!
I didn't know it, but I liked to have ps on a GUI.
Now, is there a way to become superuser?
(I'm probably using a very old version of it, the one that comes with Debian Lenny, so I understand that there may already be an quite evident way on newer versions.
)Also, it is quite well hiden.
It should come with some .desktop shortcut (I don't know if it is done by the distros or by you).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30141966</id>
	<title>It's the other way around</title>
	<author>brunes69</author>
	<datestamp>1257080520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pretty much every new feature in Windows 7 and Vista was in KDE for at least a year prior. Things like the previews when you mouse over the taskbar in Windows 7, all the Aero FX in Vista/7, etc. That all is stolen from KDE. I can't think of anything KDE took from Vista or Windows 7.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty much every new feature in Windows 7 and Vista was in KDE for at least a year prior .
Things like the previews when you mouse over the taskbar in Windows 7 , all the Aero FX in Vista/7 , etc .
That all is stolen from KDE .
I ca n't think of anything KDE took from Vista or Windows 7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty much every new feature in Windows 7 and Vista was in KDE for at least a year prior.
Things like the previews when you mouse over the taskbar in Windows 7, all the Aero FX in Vista/7, etc.
That all is stolen from KDE.
I can't think of anything KDE took from Vista or Windows 7.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129210</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30134474</id>
	<title>KDE 4.3 and above is great, but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258451160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>KDE 4.3 and above is great, but I switched back to GNOME due to psychological reasons.  I used some of the native KDE apps such as Kmail, konqueror, etc.  Quickly I found that I liked FireFox, Epiphany with webkit, evolution, Xchat, pan and Banshee better.  These are GTK apps which are always open on my desktop.  I just couldn't bare the fact that KDE had become just a pretty window manager for my GNOME apps.</p><p>I haven't researched this topic lately, but does running these GNOME apps use a lot more cpu/memory?  I would be running two Desktops essentially, right?  Oh but wait there is that one program that runs under KDE that themes GNOME apps.</p><p>Can someone tell me that this is psychologically okay and that these GTK apps would consume no more CPU/memory than its native KDE counterpart?</p><p>Thanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>KDE 4.3 and above is great , but I switched back to GNOME due to psychological reasons .
I used some of the native KDE apps such as Kmail , konqueror , etc .
Quickly I found that I liked FireFox , Epiphany with webkit , evolution , Xchat , pan and Banshee better .
These are GTK apps which are always open on my desktop .
I just could n't bare the fact that KDE had become just a pretty window manager for my GNOME apps.I have n't researched this topic lately , but does running these GNOME apps use a lot more cpu/memory ?
I would be running two Desktops essentially , right ?
Oh but wait there is that one program that runs under KDE that themes GNOME apps.Can someone tell me that this is psychologically okay and that these GTK apps would consume no more CPU/memory than its native KDE counterpart ? Thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>KDE 4.3 and above is great, but I switched back to GNOME due to psychological reasons.
I used some of the native KDE apps such as Kmail, konqueror, etc.
Quickly I found that I liked FireFox, Epiphany with webkit, evolution, Xchat, pan and Banshee better.
These are GTK apps which are always open on my desktop.
I just couldn't bare the fact that KDE had become just a pretty window manager for my GNOME apps.I haven't researched this topic lately, but does running these GNOME apps use a lot more cpu/memory?
I would be running two Desktops essentially, right?
Oh but wait there is that one program that runs under KDE that themes GNOME apps.Can someone tell me that this is psychologically okay and that these GTK apps would consume no more CPU/memory than its native KDE counterpart?Thanks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129080</id>
	<title>Last piece</title>
	<author>molnarcs</author>
	<datestamp>1258474380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>KDE 4.3.3 is brilliant, stable, feature rich<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... there is one last piece missing: printing options. I've been happy with KDE 4.2.x except for this last piece. I often have to pring select pages from long pdf documents, and for now, I can only do it one-by-one, can't define arbitrary pages or multiple page ranges. That's going to be fixed in KDE 4.4.<p>

Also, the semantic desktop concept is shaping up nicely. I was weary of enabling nepomuksearch with strigi, because in the early 4.x releases they were extremely buggy. Then I went ahead with 4.3.3 (on Arch), and now strigi seem to work fine. It uses minimal resources, indexing is automatically switched off when you switch to powersaving mode (useful on a laptop), otherwise CPU usage is barely noticable. It still uses a shitload of memory, but with KDE 4.x you have plenty to spare. I have 2 Gb in my laptop, and without nepomuk/strigi memory usage after startup is 15\%.  That includes all the daemons  necessary for a modern desktop (including cups), 2 desktops with different wallpapers and widgets, wicd. After running it for days without reboot, memory usage stabilized around 30\% including ktorrent running in the background. After I started using nepomuk, that number icreased by around 20\% - still pretty lean considering what it does. Which reminds me, nepomuk (on my setting at least) <b>works in dolphin</b> (just start typing in the searchbar), not in the normal Find files option accessible from KMenu.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>KDE 4.3.3 is brilliant , stable , feature rich ... there is one last piece missing : printing options .
I 've been happy with KDE 4.2.x except for this last piece .
I often have to pring select pages from long pdf documents , and for now , I can only do it one-by-one , ca n't define arbitrary pages or multiple page ranges .
That 's going to be fixed in KDE 4.4 .
Also , the semantic desktop concept is shaping up nicely .
I was weary of enabling nepomuksearch with strigi , because in the early 4.x releases they were extremely buggy .
Then I went ahead with 4.3.3 ( on Arch ) , and now strigi seem to work fine .
It uses minimal resources , indexing is automatically switched off when you switch to powersaving mode ( useful on a laptop ) , otherwise CPU usage is barely noticable .
It still uses a shitload of memory , but with KDE 4.x you have plenty to spare .
I have 2 Gb in my laptop , and without nepomuk/strigi memory usage after startup is 15 \ % .
That includes all the daemons necessary for a modern desktop ( including cups ) , 2 desktops with different wallpapers and widgets , wicd .
After running it for days without reboot , memory usage stabilized around 30 \ % including ktorrent running in the background .
After I started using nepomuk , that number icreased by around 20 \ % - still pretty lean considering what it does .
Which reminds me , nepomuk ( on my setting at least ) works in dolphin ( just start typing in the searchbar ) , not in the normal Find files option accessible from KMenu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>KDE 4.3.3 is brilliant, stable, feature rich ... there is one last piece missing: printing options.
I've been happy with KDE 4.2.x except for this last piece.
I often have to pring select pages from long pdf documents, and for now, I can only do it one-by-one, can't define arbitrary pages or multiple page ranges.
That's going to be fixed in KDE 4.4.
Also, the semantic desktop concept is shaping up nicely.
I was weary of enabling nepomuksearch with strigi, because in the early 4.x releases they were extremely buggy.
Then I went ahead with 4.3.3 (on Arch), and now strigi seem to work fine.
It uses minimal resources, indexing is automatically switched off when you switch to powersaving mode (useful on a laptop), otherwise CPU usage is barely noticable.
It still uses a shitload of memory, but with KDE 4.x you have plenty to spare.
I have 2 Gb in my laptop, and without nepomuk/strigi memory usage after startup is 15\%.
That includes all the daemons  necessary for a modern desktop (including cups), 2 desktops with different wallpapers and widgets, wicd.
After running it for days without reboot, memory usage stabilized around 30\% including ktorrent running in the background.
After I started using nepomuk, that number icreased by around 20\% - still pretty lean considering what it does.
Which reminds me, nepomuk (on my setting at least) works in dolphin (just start typing in the searchbar), not in the normal Find files option accessible from KMenu.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30140900</id>
	<title>flyout menu is still clunky</title>
	<author>bsdhacker</author>
	<datestamp>1257109140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I still can't get over that clunky fly-out menu that dwarfs each icon I mouse over.  KDE 4 in general looks very attractive - much more so than a default Gnome instance...  but it just seems to get in my way constantly.  Maybe it's just my workflow.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I still ca n't get over that clunky fly-out menu that dwarfs each icon I mouse over .
KDE 4 in general looks very attractive - much more so than a default Gnome instance... but it just seems to get in my way constantly .
Maybe it 's just my workflow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still can't get over that clunky fly-out menu that dwarfs each icon I mouse over.
KDE 4 in general looks very attractive - much more so than a default Gnome instance...  but it just seems to get in my way constantly.
Maybe it's just my workflow.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30148212</id>
	<title>Re:18,000 bugs?!?</title>
	<author>metamatic</author>
	<datestamp>1257067980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>They closed 18,000 bugs?!?</p></div></blockquote><p>
Maybe it's like Firefox and they don't actually fix them, just close them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They closed 18,000 bugs ? ! ?
Maybe it 's like Firefox and they do n't actually fix them , just close them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They closed 18,000 bugs?!?
Maybe it's like Firefox and they don't actually fix them, just close them.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129106</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130352</id>
	<title>Re:Sure</title>
	<author>RAMMS+EIN</author>
	<datestamp>1258479660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>``I'm a happy KDE 3.5 user. They screwed KDE 4 BY DESIGN, so I suppose the bugs they'll fix now again are just some bugs of fancy unneeded things, and not UI problems with important base components<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... ''</p><p>With so many people expressing that sentiment, I'm curious: has KDE 3 seen any significant development since the release of KDE 4? You'd think there would be a lot of people even among the developers who thought they way KDE 4 was handles was a disaster, and continue to improve on KDE 3 instead (perhaps in a differently named fork). Has this actually happened?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>` ` I 'm a happy KDE 3.5 user .
They screwed KDE 4 BY DESIGN , so I suppose the bugs they 'll fix now again are just some bugs of fancy unneeded things , and not UI problems with important base components ... ''With so many people expressing that sentiment , I 'm curious : has KDE 3 seen any significant development since the release of KDE 4 ?
You 'd think there would be a lot of people even among the developers who thought they way KDE 4 was handles was a disaster , and continue to improve on KDE 3 instead ( perhaps in a differently named fork ) .
Has this actually happened ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>``I'm a happy KDE 3.5 user.
They screwed KDE 4 BY DESIGN, so I suppose the bugs they'll fix now again are just some bugs of fancy unneeded things, and not UI problems with important base components ... ''With so many people expressing that sentiment, I'm curious: has KDE 3 seen any significant development since the release of KDE 4?
You'd think there would be a lot of people even among the developers who thought they way KDE 4 was handles was a disaster, and continue to improve on KDE 3 instead (perhaps in a differently named fork).
Has this actually happened?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130600</id>
	<title>KDE == GNOME???</title>
	<author>filesiteguy</author>
	<datestamp>1258480800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is it just me, or is KDE looking more and more like GNOME?<br><br>I jumped ship from KDE to GNOME when I swichted - after four years - to Ubuntu from openSUSE.  Having used KDE 3.x and hating gnome, I finally accepted GNOME as viable (though I still hate the file open/save dialogs) and noticed KDE 4 apps seem to look very similar.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it just me , or is KDE looking more and more like GNOME ? I jumped ship from KDE to GNOME when I swichted - after four years - to Ubuntu from openSUSE .
Having used KDE 3.x and hating gnome , I finally accepted GNOME as viable ( though I still hate the file open/save dialogs ) and noticed KDE 4 apps seem to look very similar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it just me, or is KDE looking more and more like GNOME?I jumped ship from KDE to GNOME when I swichted - after four years - to Ubuntu from openSUSE.
Having used KDE 3.x and hating gnome, I finally accepted GNOME as viable (though I still hate the file open/save dialogs) and noticed KDE 4 apps seem to look very similar.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128930</id>
	<title>Re:Manually semantic != semantic</title>
	<author>RiotingPacifist</author>
	<datestamp>1258473540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't you need manual before you can go automatic, this provides the framework for automatic tagging. With something like kross making it simple to add plugins (Python, Ruby, JavaScript and Java on the way?), it shouldn't be too hard to get the add automatic semantics (ofc the tricky part is writing generic auto-tagging code that works)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't you need manual before you can go automatic , this provides the framework for automatic tagging .
With something like kross making it simple to add plugins ( Python , Ruby , JavaScript and Java on the way ?
) , it should n't be too hard to get the add automatic semantics ( ofc the tricky part is writing generic auto-tagging code that works )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't you need manual before you can go automatic, this provides the framework for automatic tagging.
With something like kross making it simple to add plugins (Python, Ruby, JavaScript and Java on the way?
), it shouldn't be too hard to get the add automatic semantics (ofc the tricky part is writing generic auto-tagging code that works)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128754</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30132000</id>
	<title>Re:Manually semantic != semantic</title>
	<author>Late Adopter</author>
	<datestamp>1258486200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Linux supports something called Extended File Attributes in most of its file-systems, going all the way back to ext2.  Any program can write and read name/value pairs for a file via system calls in attr/attributes.h.  These follow the file when its moved, copied, etc.  There's still the downside that the information doesn't follow the file when you send the file by email, HTTP, or FAT USB key, so it's not a perfect solution.  But it does follow file moves, copies, etc, and can be read by any program that wants to.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux supports something called Extended File Attributes in most of its file-systems , going all the way back to ext2 .
Any program can write and read name/value pairs for a file via system calls in attr/attributes.h .
These follow the file when its moved , copied , etc .
There 's still the downside that the information does n't follow the file when you send the file by email , HTTP , or FAT USB key , so it 's not a perfect solution .
But it does follow file moves , copies , etc , and can be read by any program that wants to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux supports something called Extended File Attributes in most of its file-systems, going all the way back to ext2.
Any program can write and read name/value pairs for a file via system calls in attr/attributes.h.
These follow the file when its moved, copied, etc.
There's still the downside that the information doesn't follow the file when you send the file by email, HTTP, or FAT USB key, so it's not a perfect solution.
But it does follow file moves, copies, etc, and can be read by any program that wants to.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129478</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30131080</id>
	<title>Re:Sure</title>
	<author>transwarp</author>
	<datestamp>1258483080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree with some of that. Personally, I'd like to have both a global and local search in Kate. It looks like the only way to set up a global search is to do it yourself with the external action plugin<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(<p><div class="quote"><p>the extremely hard way to drag a box with the mouse around files in the file manager</p></div><p>I've seen a lot of people say that, but I don't understand. Dragging a box works normally, ctrl+dragging works, what's broken?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree with some of that .
Personally , I 'd like to have both a global and local search in Kate .
It looks like the only way to set up a global search is to do it yourself with the external action plugin : ( the extremely hard way to drag a box with the mouse around files in the file managerI 've seen a lot of people say that , but I do n't understand .
Dragging a box works normally , ctrl + dragging works , what 's broken ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree with some of that.
Personally, I'd like to have both a global and local search in Kate.
It looks like the only way to set up a global search is to do it yourself with the external action plugin :(the extremely hard way to drag a box with the mouse around files in the file managerI've seen a lot of people say that, but I don't understand.
Dragging a box works normally, ctrl+dragging works, what's broken?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128990</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130212</id>
	<title>Re:Please: No More Vertical Text</title>
	<author>devent</author>
	<datestamp>1258479060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm using Kate all the time and I have mostly 10 to 20 or more documents open. A tab panel on the side is really good with the 16:9 screens that now everybody has anyway. But if you think it's wasted space, why you don't click on "Documents" to hide it?
</p><p>
Kate is one of the very best text editors. Big thanks to the KDE4 developers.
</p><p>The vertical text is very space save, too (which is good). In Kile there is like 4 panels to open with the vertical text, very use full. But what I don't understand is, why can't I move the panels to a different location, like to the sides. In Kile is the output panel on the bottom side, but I wish I could move it to the right side.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm using Kate all the time and I have mostly 10 to 20 or more documents open .
A tab panel on the side is really good with the 16 : 9 screens that now everybody has anyway .
But if you think it 's wasted space , why you do n't click on " Documents " to hide it ?
Kate is one of the very best text editors .
Big thanks to the KDE4 developers .
The vertical text is very space save , too ( which is good ) .
In Kile there is like 4 panels to open with the vertical text , very use full .
But what I do n't understand is , why ca n't I move the panels to a different location , like to the sides .
In Kile is the output panel on the bottom side , but I wish I could move it to the right side .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm using Kate all the time and I have mostly 10 to 20 or more documents open.
A tab panel on the side is really good with the 16:9 screens that now everybody has anyway.
But if you think it's wasted space, why you don't click on "Documents" to hide it?
Kate is one of the very best text editors.
Big thanks to the KDE4 developers.
The vertical text is very space save, too (which is good).
In Kile there is like 4 panels to open with the vertical text, very use full.
But what I don't understand is, why can't I move the panels to a different location, like to the sides.
In Kile is the output panel on the bottom side, but I wish I could move it to the right side.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129210</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30164656</id>
	<title>Seriously new</title>
	<author>DanielSmedegaardBuus</author>
	<datestamp>1258629000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Once you start to understand <a href="http://nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main1/" title="semanticdesktop.org" rel="nofollow">http://nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main1/</a> [semanticdesktop.org]some of the things in the pipeline for KDE beginning with 4.0, you start to get that tickling sensation in your stomach. There's no other desktop out there with that kind of potential.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Once you start to understand http : //nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main1/ [ semanticdesktop.org ] some of the things in the pipeline for KDE beginning with 4.0 , you start to get that tickling sensation in your stomach .
There 's no other desktop out there with that kind of potential .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once you start to understand http://nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main1/ [semanticdesktop.org]some of the things in the pipeline for KDE beginning with 4.0, you start to get that tickling sensation in your stomach.
There's no other desktop out there with that kind of potential.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128886</id>
	<title>Kugler?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258473300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Jesus Christ, even the developers' names...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jesus Christ , even the developers ' names.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jesus Christ, even the developers' names...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30132510</id>
	<title>Re:Please: No More Vertical Text</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258487760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uncheck 'Show Documents' in View -&gt; Tool Views</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uncheck 'Show Documents ' in View - &gt; Tool Views</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uncheck 'Show Documents' in View -&gt; Tool Views</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129210</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30142746</id>
	<title>Re:Labelling.</title>
	<author>yet-another-lobbyist</author>
	<datestamp>1257087600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I saw the same keyboard lagging with kubuntu intrepid (8.10/KDE 4.1). It was horrible. And it happened with all effects turned off on a state-of-the-art laptop at that time (the Dell Latitude which was just released in August 2008). It was so bad that you couldn't even use the terminal (konsole). Sometimes it was not there directly after rebooting, but after a few minutes using it, it suddenly kicked in. <br>
In my case, this was really, really, horrible. I was really used to kubuntu, and I wasn't a very experienced linux user, yet. However, there was NO way for me to continue using kubuntu on this machine. It needed a recent kernel to get the new hardware supported; so using kubuntu hardy (8.04), which still offered KDE3 was not an option. I had no choice but go shopping for another distro, which was a lot of pain and work at the time. I ended up using Mandriva, where I could use KDE3 and KDE4 simultaneously. So I made my switch to KDE4 gradually, until I had figured out how to get everything working. After some time, I switched back to kubuntu. I just liked the repos and some other things better. <br>
Still, remembering this entire story causes me a lot of pain. Would it really have been sooo difficult for kubuntu to keep supporting KDE3?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I saw the same keyboard lagging with kubuntu intrepid ( 8.10/KDE 4.1 ) .
It was horrible .
And it happened with all effects turned off on a state-of-the-art laptop at that time ( the Dell Latitude which was just released in August 2008 ) .
It was so bad that you could n't even use the terminal ( konsole ) .
Sometimes it was not there directly after rebooting , but after a few minutes using it , it suddenly kicked in .
In my case , this was really , really , horrible .
I was really used to kubuntu , and I was n't a very experienced linux user , yet .
However , there was NO way for me to continue using kubuntu on this machine .
It needed a recent kernel to get the new hardware supported ; so using kubuntu hardy ( 8.04 ) , which still offered KDE3 was not an option .
I had no choice but go shopping for another distro , which was a lot of pain and work at the time .
I ended up using Mandriva , where I could use KDE3 and KDE4 simultaneously .
So I made my switch to KDE4 gradually , until I had figured out how to get everything working .
After some time , I switched back to kubuntu .
I just liked the repos and some other things better .
Still , remembering this entire story causes me a lot of pain .
Would it really have been sooo difficult for kubuntu to keep supporting KDE3 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I saw the same keyboard lagging with kubuntu intrepid (8.10/KDE 4.1).
It was horrible.
And it happened with all effects turned off on a state-of-the-art laptop at that time (the Dell Latitude which was just released in August 2008).
It was so bad that you couldn't even use the terminal (konsole).
Sometimes it was not there directly after rebooting, but after a few minutes using it, it suddenly kicked in.
In my case, this was really, really, horrible.
I was really used to kubuntu, and I wasn't a very experienced linux user, yet.
However, there was NO way for me to continue using kubuntu on this machine.
It needed a recent kernel to get the new hardware supported; so using kubuntu hardy (8.04), which still offered KDE3 was not an option.
I had no choice but go shopping for another distro, which was a lot of pain and work at the time.
I ended up using Mandriva, where I could use KDE3 and KDE4 simultaneously.
So I made my switch to KDE4 gradually, until I had figured out how to get everything working.
After some time, I switched back to kubuntu.
I just liked the repos and some other things better.
Still, remembering this entire story causes me a lot of pain.
Would it really have been sooo difficult for kubuntu to keep supporting KDE3?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130896</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30134182</id>
	<title>Re:Please: No More Vertical Text</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258450260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Dear KDE devs,</p><p>Please rethink the <a href="http://i26.tinypic.com/2po8o06.jpg" title="tinypic.com" rel="nofollow">vertical text</a> [tinypic.com] that has infected KDE4 like so much ringworm. It's hard to read, hard to use, and completely unnecessary. Also, please stop aping Windows Vista and 7. Or at least stop copying their bad ideas.</p><p>Thanks.</p></div><p>If you find that your text editor has to much wasted space, and you don't like frilly visuals, perhaps you should try the next generation of <a href="http://www.vim.org/" title="vim.org" rel="nofollow">editors</a> [vim.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear KDE devs,Please rethink the vertical text [ tinypic.com ] that has infected KDE4 like so much ringworm .
It 's hard to read , hard to use , and completely unnecessary .
Also , please stop aping Windows Vista and 7 .
Or at least stop copying their bad ideas.Thanks.If you find that your text editor has to much wasted space , and you do n't like frilly visuals , perhaps you should try the next generation of editors [ vim.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear KDE devs,Please rethink the vertical text [tinypic.com] that has infected KDE4 like so much ringworm.
It's hard to read, hard to use, and completely unnecessary.
Also, please stop aping Windows Vista and 7.
Or at least stop copying their bad ideas.Thanks.If you find that your text editor has to much wasted space, and you don't like frilly visuals, perhaps you should try the next generation of editors [vim.org]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129210</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30131690</id>
	<title>Re:Sure</title>
	<author>PitaBred</author>
	<datestamp>1258485240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Naah. The complainers just don't like change, or expect something that's not there. Same kind of thing as people moving from Windows to Linux. "Why can't I just download Photoshop and install it? Linux sucks!" They just aren't ready for a shift in thinking.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Naah .
The complainers just do n't like change , or expect something that 's not there .
Same kind of thing as people moving from Windows to Linux .
" Why ca n't I just download Photoshop and install it ?
Linux sucks !
" They just are n't ready for a shift in thinking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Naah.
The complainers just don't like change, or expect something that's not there.
Same kind of thing as people moving from Windows to Linux.
"Why can't I just download Photoshop and install it?
Linux sucks!
" They just aren't ready for a shift in thinking.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130352</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30133608</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>urbanRealist</author>
	<datestamp>1258491480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thanks for your great work. I've used the "System Activity" thing for monitoring memory and CPU usage of different processes and to kill unresponsive ones. I really like the graphical display, but often resize the columns to get it just right. You should consider lack of feedback a good thing. Yours is an application that does its job well, and I have not found any bugs in it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks for your great work .
I 've used the " System Activity " thing for monitoring memory and CPU usage of different processes and to kill unresponsive ones .
I really like the graphical display , but often resize the columns to get it just right .
You should consider lack of feedback a good thing .
Yours is an application that does its job well , and I have not found any bugs in it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks for your great work.
I've used the "System Activity" thing for monitoring memory and CPU usage of different processes and to kill unresponsive ones.
I really like the graphical display, but often resize the columns to get it just right.
You should consider lack of feedback a good thing.
Yours is an application that does its job well, and I have not found any bugs in it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30137464</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>JohnFluxx</author>
	<datestamp>1258462800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually I agree with you - but changing global shortcuts is hard - too much momentum<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)<br>If I changed them, then we'd next have posts about how KDE is so damn annoying because they keep changing the global shortcuts..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually I agree with you - but changing global shortcuts is hard - too much momentum : - ) If I changed them , then we 'd next have posts about how KDE is so damn annoying because they keep changing the global shortcuts. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually I agree with you - but changing global shortcuts is hard - too much momentum :-)If I changed them, then we'd next have posts about how KDE is so damn annoying because they keep changing the global shortcuts..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30134138</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30135926</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>amRadioHed</author>
	<datestamp>1258456080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've seen tickets about the System Monitor applets and they were closed with won't fix saying if we wanted more features we should install some third party applets. Pretty weak, I'd be happy with simple stuff like having niced processes a different color in the CPU monitor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've seen tickets about the System Monitor applets and they were closed with wo n't fix saying if we wanted more features we should install some third party applets .
Pretty weak , I 'd be happy with simple stuff like having niced processes a different color in the CPU monitor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've seen tickets about the System Monitor applets and they were closed with won't fix saying if we wanted more features we should install some third party applets.
Pretty weak, I'd be happy with simple stuff like having niced processes a different color in the CPU monitor.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30140364</id>
	<title>Re:KDE is really heading in the right direction bu</title>
	<author>quantumphaze</author>
	<datestamp>1258485180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Still, 4.3 already does what Windows 7 and OSX only hint at moving towards so 4.4 will be interesting.</p></div><p>The 6 month (give or take) release schedule does help them implement some of the fresh ideas sooner rather than later, whether 'inspired' by the competition or not.</p><p>When they inevitably reach 4.9.x in mid 2012 I bet they will use it as an excuse to break some backwards compatibility and make a 5.0. It will be an improvement but no where near as radically different as the 3.x to 4.x transition was. A Vista to 7 transition as opposed to XP to Vista.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Still , 4.3 already does what Windows 7 and OSX only hint at moving towards so 4.4 will be interesting.The 6 month ( give or take ) release schedule does help them implement some of the fresh ideas sooner rather than later , whether 'inspired ' by the competition or not.When they inevitably reach 4.9.x in mid 2012 I bet they will use it as an excuse to break some backwards compatibility and make a 5.0 .
It will be an improvement but no where near as radically different as the 3.x to 4.x transition was .
A Vista to 7 transition as opposed to XP to Vista .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Still, 4.3 already does what Windows 7 and OSX only hint at moving towards so 4.4 will be interesting.The 6 month (give or take) release schedule does help them implement some of the fresh ideas sooner rather than later, whether 'inspired' by the competition or not.When they inevitably reach 4.9.x in mid 2012 I bet they will use it as an excuse to break some backwards compatibility and make a 5.0.
It will be an improvement but no where near as radically different as the 3.x to 4.x transition was.
A Vista to 7 transition as opposed to XP to Vista.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129026</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129118</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258474620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wasn't even aware that such thing existed. Maybe I am old school, but if my box feels unresponsive, I open 'top' in a terminal... Will take a look when I get home, where I have a KDE4.something running (Debian Squeeze).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Was n't even aware that such thing existed .
Maybe I am old school , but if my box feels unresponsive , I open 'top ' in a terminal... Will take a look when I get home , where I have a KDE4.something running ( Debian Squeeze ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wasn't even aware that such thing existed.
Maybe I am old school, but if my box feels unresponsive, I open 'top' in a terminal... Will take a look when I get home, where I have a KDE4.something running (Debian Squeeze).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130806</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Ragica</author>
	<datestamp>1258481880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just popped it open, noticed the "monitor input &amp; output" context item, wondered what it would show me, so I turned it on for firefox. I got a a bunch of blue accented u characters slowly appearing, one red 8, more blue u's. As I wondered what this might mean, my desktop completely locked up. Problem?

I managed to get control back by going to console (ctrl-alt-f1), logging in and killing firefox, then ctrl-alt-f7 back to desktop. But I think it'll be a while before I try "monitoring input &amp; output" again now. Sounded fun in theory though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just popped it open , noticed the " monitor input &amp; output " context item , wondered what it would show me , so I turned it on for firefox .
I got a a bunch of blue accented u characters slowly appearing , one red 8 , more blue u 's .
As I wondered what this might mean , my desktop completely locked up .
Problem ? I managed to get control back by going to console ( ctrl-alt-f1 ) , logging in and killing firefox , then ctrl-alt-f7 back to desktop .
But I think it 'll be a while before I try " monitoring input &amp; output " again now .
Sounded fun in theory though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just popped it open, noticed the "monitor input &amp; output" context item, wondered what it would show me, so I turned it on for firefox.
I got a a bunch of blue accented u characters slowly appearing, one red 8, more blue u's.
As I wondered what this might mean, my desktop completely locked up.
Problem?

I managed to get control back by going to console (ctrl-alt-f1), logging in and killing firefox, then ctrl-alt-f7 back to desktop.
But I think it'll be a while before I try "monitoring input &amp; output" again now.
Sounded fun in theory though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30140110</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>quantumphaze</author>
	<datestamp>1258482780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like it, and many of the suggestions posted here would improve it (especially key bindings, modifiable like the rest of KDE).</p><p>I personally use it as a quick to load alternative to htop as Ctrl+Esc is as fast as it gets.<br>My sugestion is to make the context menu customisable so users can put commonly used signals one click away instead of in the nested menu. At the moment there is only kill in the top level context menu and not all signals available in htop are available in the sub-menu.</p><p>I often use STOP/CONT to hard pause apps (like Firefox when playing a Flash game that takes up 60\% CPU at idle) and it would be nice if it took less time to do that.</p><p>I also managed to reliably crash System <i>Monitor</i> when making the Network History horizontal scale 1 px, the other two plots worked fine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like it , and many of the suggestions posted here would improve it ( especially key bindings , modifiable like the rest of KDE ) .I personally use it as a quick to load alternative to htop as Ctrl + Esc is as fast as it gets.My sugestion is to make the context menu customisable so users can put commonly used signals one click away instead of in the nested menu .
At the moment there is only kill in the top level context menu and not all signals available in htop are available in the sub-menu.I often use STOP/CONT to hard pause apps ( like Firefox when playing a Flash game that takes up 60 \ % CPU at idle ) and it would be nice if it took less time to do that.I also managed to reliably crash System Monitor when making the Network History horizontal scale 1 px , the other two plots worked fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like it, and many of the suggestions posted here would improve it (especially key bindings, modifiable like the rest of KDE).I personally use it as a quick to load alternative to htop as Ctrl+Esc is as fast as it gets.My sugestion is to make the context menu customisable so users can put commonly used signals one click away instead of in the nested menu.
At the moment there is only kill in the top level context menu and not all signals available in htop are available in the sub-menu.I often use STOP/CONT to hard pause apps (like Firefox when playing a Flash game that takes up 60\% CPU at idle) and it would be nice if it took less time to do that.I also managed to reliably crash System Monitor when making the Network History horizontal scale 1 px, the other two plots worked fine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30137312</id>
	<title>Most important question: can you switch it off?</title>
	<author>aix tom</author>
	<datestamp>1258462140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>'If you tag an image in your image viewer, the tag becomes visible in your desktop search. That's how it should be, right?'</p> </div><p>No. If I put a street in an address info I also don't want it showing up when I search for a recipes. I only want it showing up when I search for streets.</p><p>For the last couple of years the main factor in choosing a desktop environment was the possibility to switch things off I don't want.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>'If you tag an image in your image viewer , the tag becomes visible in your desktop search .
That 's how it should be , right ?
' No .
If I put a street in an address info I also do n't want it showing up when I search for a recipes .
I only want it showing up when I search for streets.For the last couple of years the main factor in choosing a desktop environment was the possibility to switch things off I do n't want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'If you tag an image in your image viewer, the tag becomes visible in your desktop search.
That's how it should be, right?
' No.
If I put a street in an address info I also don't want it showing up when I search for a recipes.
I only want it showing up when I search for streets.For the last couple of years the main factor in choosing a desktop environment was the possibility to switch things off I don't want.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30138780</id>
	<title>Re:Manually semantic != semantic</title>
	<author>AniVisual</author>
	<datestamp>1258472460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> I have this idea on tags. Basically they're organized hierarchically like folders in a file system. A file can have multiple tags. You can drag 'n drop files onto tags or tags onto files so that it's not much effort to tag a file. You can use logical AND OR, XOR etc. statements to display the groups of tags/folders you want to view. Multiple tags can be implemented on a UNIX filesystem through hard links. </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have this idea on tags .
Basically they 're organized hierarchically like folders in a file system .
A file can have multiple tags .
You can drag 'n drop files onto tags or tags onto files so that it 's not much effort to tag a file .
You can use logical AND OR , XOR etc .
statements to display the groups of tags/folders you want to view .
Multiple tags can be implemented on a UNIX filesystem through hard links .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I have this idea on tags.
Basically they're organized hierarchically like folders in a file system.
A file can have multiple tags.
You can drag 'n drop files onto tags or tags onto files so that it's not much effort to tag a file.
You can use logical AND OR, XOR etc.
statements to display the groups of tags/folders you want to view.
Multiple tags can be implemented on a UNIX filesystem through hard links. </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30131346</id>
	<title>Why?  Why why WHY?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258484100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do people submit stories with links to sites that they <i>know</i> (if they have a single synapse, that is) can't handle the traffic that a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. story will send?</p><p>Yes, by all means, let's tell everyone on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. about a screenshot page -- a page full of images -- running on a slow link.  Genius!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do people submit stories with links to sites that they know ( if they have a single synapse , that is ) ca n't handle the traffic that a / .
story will send ? Yes , by all means , let 's tell everyone on / .
about a screenshot page -- a page full of images -- running on a slow link .
Genius !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do people submit stories with links to sites that they know (if they have a single synapse, that is) can't handle the traffic that a /.
story will send?Yes, by all means, let's tell everyone on /.
about a screenshot page -- a page full of images -- running on a slow link.
Genius!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30137336</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258462200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I like this guy, he's nice.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I like this guy , he 's nice .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like this guy, he's nice.
:-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130896</id>
	<title>Re:Labelling.</title>
	<author>Enderandrew</author>
	<datestamp>1258482300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Compiz effects in kwin were ALWAYS optional, and were not turned on by default unless your hardware supported it. They could always be turned off with a single keystroke (Ctrl-F12? Can't remember) as well as within System Settings. That has been there since the very first beta releases I tested.</p><p>I've never seen an input lag, even running on an 8 year old crappy laptop. I do turn off Strigi/Nepomuk to cut down on HDD access. I'm curious what distro you were running.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Compiz effects in kwin were ALWAYS optional , and were not turned on by default unless your hardware supported it .
They could always be turned off with a single keystroke ( Ctrl-F12 ?
Ca n't remember ) as well as within System Settings .
That has been there since the very first beta releases I tested.I 've never seen an input lag , even running on an 8 year old crappy laptop .
I do turn off Strigi/Nepomuk to cut down on HDD access .
I 'm curious what distro you were running .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Compiz effects in kwin were ALWAYS optional, and were not turned on by default unless your hardware supported it.
They could always be turned off with a single keystroke (Ctrl-F12?
Can't remember) as well as within System Settings.
That has been there since the very first beta releases I tested.I've never seen an input lag, even running on an 8 year old crappy laptop.
I do turn off Strigi/Nepomuk to cut down on HDD access.
I'm curious what distro you were running.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129284</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30152598</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Merritt.kr</author>
	<datestamp>1257092520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/love/ the system activity monitor from KDE. No complaints, at all - maybe that's why you don't get too much feedback, it works and works well!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)

Great job!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I /love/ the system activity monitor from KDE .
No complaints , at all - maybe that 's why you do n't get too much feedback , it works and works well !
: ) Great job !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I /love/ the system activity monitor from KDE.
No complaints, at all - maybe that's why you don't get too much feedback, it works and works well!
:)

Great job!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130824</id>
	<title>Re:Labelling.</title>
	<author>Andy Dodd</author>
	<datestamp>1258481940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I actually liked 4.2 too.  The only thing I kept "back" from KDE3 was Amarok (which is semi-independent of KDE releases, but somewhat connected.)  Amarok 2.0 was awful - horrible error handling for streams, and inconsistent collection performance (although much of that is likely just crappy Gentoo packaging.)</p><p>Gentoo continuing to have KDE 4.x masked as unstable even well into the KDE4.3 release cycle is why all of my new machines run Kubuntu, and I have even started doing reinstalls of machines with existing Gentoo installs.  It's just ridiculous that the only KDE release marked stable by a distro (3.5.x) has been unsupported by upstream for months.</p><p>KDE 4.3 on Kubuntu systems is excellent, I LOVE it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually liked 4.2 too .
The only thing I kept " back " from KDE3 was Amarok ( which is semi-independent of KDE releases , but somewhat connected .
) Amarok 2.0 was awful - horrible error handling for streams , and inconsistent collection performance ( although much of that is likely just crappy Gentoo packaging .
) Gentoo continuing to have KDE 4.x masked as unstable even well into the KDE4.3 release cycle is why all of my new machines run Kubuntu , and I have even started doing reinstalls of machines with existing Gentoo installs .
It 's just ridiculous that the only KDE release marked stable by a distro ( 3.5.x ) has been unsupported by upstream for months.KDE 4.3 on Kubuntu systems is excellent , I LOVE it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually liked 4.2 too.
The only thing I kept "back" from KDE3 was Amarok (which is semi-independent of KDE releases, but somewhat connected.
)  Amarok 2.0 was awful - horrible error handling for streams, and inconsistent collection performance (although much of that is likely just crappy Gentoo packaging.
)Gentoo continuing to have KDE 4.x masked as unstable even well into the KDE4.3 release cycle is why all of my new machines run Kubuntu, and I have even started doing reinstalls of machines with existing Gentoo installs.
It's just ridiculous that the only KDE release marked stable by a distro (3.5.x) has been unsupported by upstream for months.KDE 4.3 on Kubuntu systems is excellent, I LOVE it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30133210</id>
	<title>Buy a decent video card</title>
	<author>Perl-Pusher</author>
	<datestamp>1258490040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>KDE 4.3 works fine for me. Add an ATI or NVIDIA card, it works perfectly. You can't blame KDE because other cards aren't releasing Linux drivers. You can get a decent one for less than $100. If you buy a system that can't support the OS and desktop you want to run on it, you don't give the manufacturer any incentive to release proper drivers for you. I won't buy a laptop that uses anything else for the display.
I'd go MAC first.</htmltext>
<tokenext>KDE 4.3 works fine for me .
Add an ATI or NVIDIA card , it works perfectly .
You ca n't blame KDE because other cards are n't releasing Linux drivers .
You can get a decent one for less than $ 100 .
If you buy a system that ca n't support the OS and desktop you want to run on it , you do n't give the manufacturer any incentive to release proper drivers for you .
I wo n't buy a laptop that uses anything else for the display .
I 'd go MAC first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>KDE 4.3 works fine for me.
Add an ATI or NVIDIA card, it works perfectly.
You can't blame KDE because other cards aren't releasing Linux drivers.
You can get a decent one for less than $100.
If you buy a system that can't support the OS and desktop you want to run on it, you don't give the manufacturer any incentive to release proper drivers for you.
I won't buy a laptop that uses anything else for the display.
I'd go MAC first.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30131606</id>
	<title>Re:Sure</title>
	<author>j\_sp\_r</author>
	<datestamp>1258485000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is a button in the menu bar that makes it like a list mode. You can then zoom out and it's just a normal list mode. You can also remove the places pane. It's 4 clicks or so to make it look like you say.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a button in the menu bar that makes it like a list mode .
You can then zoom out and it 's just a normal list mode .
You can also remove the places pane .
It 's 4 clicks or so to make it look like you say .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a button in the menu bar that makes it like a list mode.
You can then zoom out and it's just a normal list mode.
You can also remove the places pane.
It's 4 clicks or so to make it look like you say.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130474</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30132178</id>
	<title>Drop the semantic garbage</title>
	<author>AtomicDevice</author>
	<datestamp>1258486740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>although I've recently been tending towards gnome, I really love a lot about KDE.  I just wish they would forget about certain features for now and focus on stability and quality every-day features.
<br> <br>Specifically the "semantic desktop" I've used kde for years and never used it.  Why the hell would I waste time tagging all my files?  I have a sensible directory hierarchy which works just fine.  I never find myself spending hours searching for stuff on my computer, because I know where all the things I need are, because I use them all the time.  If I didn't know where something was that would imply I never use it, in which case, why am I spending time to tag things I never use?  Just in case I might need it?<br> <br>
What I <em>do</em> need is for firefox to pick up on my application preferences (what opens up a zip, etc), for drag and drop to be snappy and accurate and always work, for ark to not suck so hard, for my folderviews on my desktop to always be up to date, look good, not pile up icons in weird ways, etc, etc.<br> <br>I like that kde is very forward thinking in their features, but sometimes I'd like them to live a little more in the present.  If you had an awesome super-intelligent automatic tagger that would let me search with vague queries and get exactly what I want, that'd be great, but spending your time on a dressed up database that tracks all kinds of stuff I have to put in by hand is a waste of everybody's time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>although I 've recently been tending towards gnome , I really love a lot about KDE .
I just wish they would forget about certain features for now and focus on stability and quality every-day features .
Specifically the " semantic desktop " I 've used kde for years and never used it .
Why the hell would I waste time tagging all my files ?
I have a sensible directory hierarchy which works just fine .
I never find myself spending hours searching for stuff on my computer , because I know where all the things I need are , because I use them all the time .
If I did n't know where something was that would imply I never use it , in which case , why am I spending time to tag things I never use ?
Just in case I might need it ?
What I do need is for firefox to pick up on my application preferences ( what opens up a zip , etc ) , for drag and drop to be snappy and accurate and always work , for ark to not suck so hard , for my folderviews on my desktop to always be up to date , look good , not pile up icons in weird ways , etc , etc .
I like that kde is very forward thinking in their features , but sometimes I 'd like them to live a little more in the present .
If you had an awesome super-intelligent automatic tagger that would let me search with vague queries and get exactly what I want , that 'd be great , but spending your time on a dressed up database that tracks all kinds of stuff I have to put in by hand is a waste of everybody 's time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>although I've recently been tending towards gnome, I really love a lot about KDE.
I just wish they would forget about certain features for now and focus on stability and quality every-day features.
Specifically the "semantic desktop" I've used kde for years and never used it.
Why the hell would I waste time tagging all my files?
I have a sensible directory hierarchy which works just fine.
I never find myself spending hours searching for stuff on my computer, because I know where all the things I need are, because I use them all the time.
If I didn't know where something was that would imply I never use it, in which case, why am I spending time to tag things I never use?
Just in case I might need it?
What I do need is for firefox to pick up on my application preferences (what opens up a zip, etc), for drag and drop to be snappy and accurate and always work, for ark to not suck so hard, for my folderviews on my desktop to always be up to date, look good, not pile up icons in weird ways, etc, etc.
I like that kde is very forward thinking in their features, but sometimes I'd like them to live a little more in the present.
If you had an awesome super-intelligent automatic tagger that would let me search with vague queries and get exactly what I want, that'd be great, but spending your time on a dressed up database that tracks all kinds of stuff I have to put in by hand is a waste of everybody's time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129902</id>
	<title>Re:Manually semantic != semantic</title>
	<author>donatzsky</author>
	<datestamp>1258477620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The text file sounds like a good idea: If the system detects that the file is being moved to a location that does not support meta data it then asks if it should include it as a text file.<br>Likewise the destination system can detect this text file and ask if it should be imported.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The text file sounds like a good idea : If the system detects that the file is being moved to a location that does not support meta data it then asks if it should include it as a text file.Likewise the destination system can detect this text file and ask if it should be imported .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The text file sounds like a good idea: If the system detects that the file is being moved to a location that does not support meta data it then asks if it should include it as a text file.Likewise the destination system can detect this text file and ask if it should be imported.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30134140</id>
	<title>Re:Last piece</title>
	<author>cecom</author>
	<datestamp>1258450080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Printing is my major beef with KDE 4. A "desktop" without printing? WTF were they thinking? One of the primary functions of a desktop environment is to provide printing - page selection options, including odd/even, etc, is an absolute must. To me it is inconceivable that a non-alpha release of a mature desktop environment was released without full printing support.</p><p>It is even more inconceivable because KDE 3.5 is pretty awesome in that respect. Thank god I am not being forced to upgrade to KDE4 yet because I am using Debian. (Debian's slow cycle has its advantages<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p><p>Anyway, to me this speaks of a significant disconnect between the KDE developers and their users. I am a huge KDE fan, but this has caused me to lose confidence. (Well, some other things too, like KMail's non-functioning IMAP, or the inability to compose HTML mail - functionality which, like it or not, is a must for a modern desktop, esp. in a business environment. May be that is fixed in KDE4? I would love to move back to KMail from Thunderbird).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Printing is my major beef with KDE 4 .
A " desktop " without printing ?
WTF were they thinking ?
One of the primary functions of a desktop environment is to provide printing - page selection options , including odd/even , etc , is an absolute must .
To me it is inconceivable that a non-alpha release of a mature desktop environment was released without full printing support.It is even more inconceivable because KDE 3.5 is pretty awesome in that respect .
Thank god I am not being forced to upgrade to KDE4 yet because I am using Debian .
( Debian 's slow cycle has its advantages : - ) Anyway , to me this speaks of a significant disconnect between the KDE developers and their users .
I am a huge KDE fan , but this has caused me to lose confidence .
( Well , some other things too , like KMail 's non-functioning IMAP , or the inability to compose HTML mail - functionality which , like it or not , is a must for a modern desktop , esp .
in a business environment .
May be that is fixed in KDE4 ?
I would love to move back to KMail from Thunderbird ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Printing is my major beef with KDE 4.
A "desktop" without printing?
WTF were they thinking?
One of the primary functions of a desktop environment is to provide printing - page selection options, including odd/even, etc, is an absolute must.
To me it is inconceivable that a non-alpha release of a mature desktop environment was released without full printing support.It is even more inconceivable because KDE 3.5 is pretty awesome in that respect.
Thank god I am not being forced to upgrade to KDE4 yet because I am using Debian.
(Debian's slow cycle has its advantages :-)Anyway, to me this speaks of a significant disconnect between the KDE developers and their users.
I am a huge KDE fan, but this has caused me to lose confidence.
(Well, some other things too, like KMail's non-functioning IMAP, or the inability to compose HTML mail - functionality which, like it or not, is a must for a modern desktop, esp.
in a business environment.
May be that is fixed in KDE4?
I would love to move back to KMail from Thunderbird).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129448</id>
	<title>Re:Labelling.</title>
	<author>molnarcs</author>
	<datestamp>1258475880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's completely useless to list all those problems without identifying the distribution you use... If it happens to be Kubuntu, well, no surprise there. But on Archlinux, I haven't seen any of the problems you mention, and I haven't seen user reports on the forums either. Most recently some of us had problems with the latest xorg+nvidia+kde4.3.3 ugprade, but it was solved in a few days...<p>
That's the problem with posts like yours - all the evidence is anecdotal. Although I had the occasional (still, quite rare) kwin crashes in 4.2.x, I had none since I updated. No idea what the widget-resize problem is, everything's smooth as silk here. Sound works like a champ, I use xine (with pulse enabled), plays everything smoothly. I only have the gstreamer backend installed because it's needed by a DVD authoring app (devede I believe). I haven't had akonadi installed on my setup until about 10 days ago. Since than, it has been running without any problems..</p><p>
On a final note, Arch's packages are pretty much vanilla packages, and they rock solid (no pun intended). There was a brief period during the xorg+nvidia+kde4.3.3 update (they all happened at the same time on arch) that caused problems for many users, specifically those who have nvidia cards.... but all problems have been solved in less then a week. Again, if KDE works fine here, works fine on Mandriva (at least that's what I heard), then your distro's implementation is to be blamed, not KDE...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's completely useless to list all those problems without identifying the distribution you use... If it happens to be Kubuntu , well , no surprise there .
But on Archlinux , I have n't seen any of the problems you mention , and I have n't seen user reports on the forums either .
Most recently some of us had problems with the latest xorg + nvidia + kde4.3.3 ugprade , but it was solved in a few days.. . That 's the problem with posts like yours - all the evidence is anecdotal .
Although I had the occasional ( still , quite rare ) kwin crashes in 4.2.x , I had none since I updated .
No idea what the widget-resize problem is , everything 's smooth as silk here .
Sound works like a champ , I use xine ( with pulse enabled ) , plays everything smoothly .
I only have the gstreamer backend installed because it 's needed by a DVD authoring app ( devede I believe ) .
I have n't had akonadi installed on my setup until about 10 days ago .
Since than , it has been running without any problems. . On a final note , Arch 's packages are pretty much vanilla packages , and they rock solid ( no pun intended ) .
There was a brief period during the xorg + nvidia + kde4.3.3 update ( they all happened at the same time on arch ) that caused problems for many users , specifically those who have nvidia cards.... but all problems have been solved in less then a week .
Again , if KDE works fine here , works fine on Mandriva ( at least that 's what I heard ) , then your distro 's implementation is to be blamed , not KDE.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's completely useless to list all those problems without identifying the distribution you use... If it happens to be Kubuntu, well, no surprise there.
But on Archlinux, I haven't seen any of the problems you mention, and I haven't seen user reports on the forums either.
Most recently some of us had problems with the latest xorg+nvidia+kde4.3.3 ugprade, but it was solved in a few days...
That's the problem with posts like yours - all the evidence is anecdotal.
Although I had the occasional (still, quite rare) kwin crashes in 4.2.x, I had none since I updated.
No idea what the widget-resize problem is, everything's smooth as silk here.
Sound works like a champ, I use xine (with pulse enabled), plays everything smoothly.
I only have the gstreamer backend installed because it's needed by a DVD authoring app (devede I believe).
I haven't had akonadi installed on my setup until about 10 days ago.
Since than, it has been running without any problems..
On a final note, Arch's packages are pretty much vanilla packages, and they rock solid (no pun intended).
There was a brief period during the xorg+nvidia+kde4.3.3 update (they all happened at the same time on arch) that caused problems for many users, specifically those who have nvidia cards.... but all problems have been solved in less then a week.
Again, if KDE works fine here, works fine on Mandriva (at least that's what I heard), then your distro's implementation is to be blamed, not KDE...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30132010</id>
	<title>Re:Please: No More Vertical Text</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258486200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Dear KDE devs,</p><p>Please rethink the <a href="http://i26.tinypic.com/2po8o06.jpg" title="tinypic.com" rel="nofollow">vertical text</a> [tinypic.com] that has infected KDE4 like so much ringworm. It's hard to read, hard to use, and completely unnecessary. Also, please stop aping Windows Vista and 7. Or at least stop copying their bad ideas.</p><p>Thanks.</p></div><p>Please MORE vertical text! at least make it configurable. I have no problems reading vertical text. the files in the "wasted space" of the above pictture should be stored in vertical text.</p><p>but what I'd really like is vertical titlebars on the applications.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear KDE devs,Please rethink the vertical text [ tinypic.com ] that has infected KDE4 like so much ringworm .
It 's hard to read , hard to use , and completely unnecessary .
Also , please stop aping Windows Vista and 7 .
Or at least stop copying their bad ideas.Thanks.Please MORE vertical text !
at least make it configurable .
I have no problems reading vertical text .
the files in the " wasted space " of the above pictture should be stored in vertical text.but what I 'd really like is vertical titlebars on the applications .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear KDE devs,Please rethink the vertical text [tinypic.com] that has infected KDE4 like so much ringworm.
It's hard to read, hard to use, and completely unnecessary.
Also, please stop aping Windows Vista and 7.
Or at least stop copying their bad ideas.Thanks.Please MORE vertical text!
at least make it configurable.
I have no problems reading vertical text.
the files in the "wasted space" of the above pictture should be stored in vertical text.but what I'd really like is vertical titlebars on the applications.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129210</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30131212</id>
	<title>Re:Labelling.</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1258483680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>My only worry is that... with 4.4 out, are we going to be subjected to KDE5.0 soon?</p></div><p>Highly unlikely unless Nokia decides to release Qt 5.0, which isn't on any roadmap yet. Everything that's happened with KDE can be traced back to the release of Qt 4.0 in June 2005, which was a major breaking change in the underlying toolkit. The result was that porting something from Qt3 to Qt4 was fairly big rewrite of the UI parts, and of course once you're rewriting everyone wants to add those compatibility-breaking changes they've wanted for so long. No doubt the new way is superior to the old, but the changes were extremely basic. Quoting the WP page:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Trolltech released Qt 4.0 on June 28, 2005 and introduced five new technologies in the framework:</p><ul> <li>Tulip - A set of template container classes.</li><li>Interview - A model/view architecture for item views.</li><li>Arthur - A 2D painting framework.</li><li>Scribe - A Unicode text renderer with a public API for performing low-level text layout.</li><li>MainWindow - A modern action-based main window, toolbar, menu, and docking architecture.</li></ul></div><p>To me those basics look very solid, so I think the 4.x series will be a long lasting one. That's not to say KDE might want to do changes on their own, but there's nothing forcing them from the bottom up to rewrite things that are essentially already working. And particularly not all at once, because clearly 4.0 was too much to swallow all at once.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>My only worry is that... with 4.4 out , are we going to be subjected to KDE5.0 soon ? Highly unlikely unless Nokia decides to release Qt 5.0 , which is n't on any roadmap yet .
Everything that 's happened with KDE can be traced back to the release of Qt 4.0 in June 2005 , which was a major breaking change in the underlying toolkit .
The result was that porting something from Qt3 to Qt4 was fairly big rewrite of the UI parts , and of course once you 're rewriting everyone wants to add those compatibility-breaking changes they 've wanted for so long .
No doubt the new way is superior to the old , but the changes were extremely basic .
Quoting the WP page : Trolltech released Qt 4.0 on June 28 , 2005 and introduced five new technologies in the framework : Tulip - A set of template container classes.Interview - A model/view architecture for item views.Arthur - A 2D painting framework.Scribe - A Unicode text renderer with a public API for performing low-level text layout.MainWindow - A modern action-based main window , toolbar , menu , and docking architecture.To me those basics look very solid , so I think the 4.x series will be a long lasting one .
That 's not to say KDE might want to do changes on their own , but there 's nothing forcing them from the bottom up to rewrite things that are essentially already working .
And particularly not all at once , because clearly 4.0 was too much to swallow all at once .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My only worry is that... with 4.4 out, are we going to be subjected to KDE5.0 soon?Highly unlikely unless Nokia decides to release Qt 5.0, which isn't on any roadmap yet.
Everything that's happened with KDE can be traced back to the release of Qt 4.0 in June 2005, which was a major breaking change in the underlying toolkit.
The result was that porting something from Qt3 to Qt4 was fairly big rewrite of the UI parts, and of course once you're rewriting everyone wants to add those compatibility-breaking changes they've wanted for so long.
No doubt the new way is superior to the old, but the changes were extremely basic.
Quoting the WP page:Trolltech released Qt 4.0 on June 28, 2005 and introduced five new technologies in the framework: Tulip - A set of template container classes.Interview - A model/view architecture for item views.Arthur - A 2D painting framework.Scribe - A Unicode text renderer with a public API for performing low-level text layout.MainWindow - A modern action-based main window, toolbar, menu, and docking architecture.To me those basics look very solid, so I think the 4.x series will be a long lasting one.
That's not to say KDE might want to do changes on their own, but there's nothing forcing them from the bottom up to rewrite things that are essentially already working.
And particularly not all at once, because clearly 4.0 was too much to swallow all at once.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129204</id>
	<title>What I miss, What I want.</title>
	<author>Icegryphon</author>
	<datestamp>1258475040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When you could just add the list of images to Kview from the Command prompt.<br>
(i.e. kview *.jpg)<br>
Poof, they would be loaded into the Slideshow for Kview.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When you could just add the list of images to Kview from the Command prompt .
( i.e. kview * .jpg ) Poof , they would be loaded into the Slideshow for Kview .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you could just add the list of images to Kview from the Command prompt.
(i.e. kview *.jpg)
Poof, they would be loaded into the Slideshow for Kview.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129308</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Mike\_01\_01</author>
	<datestamp>1258475400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not sure if this has been fixed yet, but I'm using KDE 4.3.1 and I've never been able to sort the columns in that 'thing'.    I'd probably use it a lot more if I could sort, but instead end up falling back on opening up htop in a konsole.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure if this has been fixed yet , but I 'm using KDE 4.3.1 and I 've never been able to sort the columns in that 'thing' .
I 'd probably use it a lot more if I could sort , but instead end up falling back on opening up htop in a konsole .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure if this has been fixed yet, but I'm using KDE 4.3.1 and I've never been able to sort the columns in that 'thing'.
I'd probably use it a lot more if I could sort, but instead end up falling back on opening up htop in a konsole.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30131940</id>
	<title>Re:Labelling.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258485960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't necessarily know if an SSD will solve
the GP's issues with KDE but, I got an X25-M
about 2 weeks ago and the kick in the pants
it gave Gnome is nothing short of jaw-dropping.
You can't click on icons fast enough to faze this
thing.  It basically renders the entire, "I'm
using this or that app because it starts up
faster" paradigm completely moot.  I realize
I'm gushing and I'll stop here in a second but
there is absolutely nothing you can do on a modern
system that will make a bigger difference.
Anybody reading this that cares at all about
performance, do yourself the favor.  One caveat
though, after using a quality SSD, everything
else will seem like molasses.  My brother has
a Phenom II something or other and I have an
older core 2 duo and my box leaves his standing
still.  It's just ridiculous.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't necessarily know if an SSD will solve the GP 's issues with KDE but , I got an X25-M about 2 weeks ago and the kick in the pants it gave Gnome is nothing short of jaw-dropping .
You ca n't click on icons fast enough to faze this thing .
It basically renders the entire , " I 'm using this or that app because it starts up faster " paradigm completely moot .
I realize I 'm gushing and I 'll stop here in a second but there is absolutely nothing you can do on a modern system that will make a bigger difference .
Anybody reading this that cares at all about performance , do yourself the favor .
One caveat though , after using a quality SSD , everything else will seem like molasses .
My brother has a Phenom II something or other and I have an older core 2 duo and my box leaves his standing still .
It 's just ridiculous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't necessarily know if an SSD will solve
the GP's issues with KDE but, I got an X25-M
about 2 weeks ago and the kick in the pants
it gave Gnome is nothing short of jaw-dropping.
You can't click on icons fast enough to faze this
thing.
It basically renders the entire, "I'm
using this or that app because it starts up
faster" paradigm completely moot.
I realize
I'm gushing and I'll stop here in a second but
there is absolutely nothing you can do on a modern
system that will make a bigger difference.
Anybody reading this that cares at all about
performance, do yourself the favor.
One caveat
though, after using a quality SSD, everything
else will seem like molasses.
My brother has
a Phenom II something or other and I have an
older core 2 duo and my box leaves his standing
still.
It's just ridiculous.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129880</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130402</id>
	<title>cashew</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258479900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The most welcome improvement is that there's finally a checkbox to hide the retarded cashew thingy. Woohoo!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The most welcome improvement is that there 's finally a checkbox to hide the retarded cashew thingy .
Woohoo !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The most welcome improvement is that there's finally a checkbox to hide the retarded cashew thingy.
Woohoo!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30133524</id>
	<title>Kuickshow fixed?</title>
	<author>RiffRafff</author>
	<datestamp>1258491240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Soooo...does this mean Kuickshow will work now?  As in, show thumbnails?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Soooo...does this mean Kuickshow will work now ?
As in , show thumbnails ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Soooo...does this mean Kuickshow will work now?
As in, show thumbnails?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30148128</id>
	<title>Re:Last piece</title>
	<author>metamatic</author>
	<datestamp>1257067440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Printing is my major beef with KDE 4. A "desktop" without printing? WTF were they thinking? One of the primary functions of a desktop environment is to provide printing - page selection options, including odd/even, etc, is an absolute must.</p></div></blockquote><p>
I'm afraid you need to get a more up-to-date major beef. KDE 4.3 has full printing support, with collation, banners, cover pages, headers and footers, etc.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Printing is my major beef with KDE 4 .
A " desktop " without printing ?
WTF were they thinking ?
One of the primary functions of a desktop environment is to provide printing - page selection options , including odd/even , etc , is an absolute must .
I 'm afraid you need to get a more up-to-date major beef .
KDE 4.3 has full printing support , with collation , banners , cover pages , headers and footers , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Printing is my major beef with KDE 4.
A "desktop" without printing?
WTF were they thinking?
One of the primary functions of a desktop environment is to provide printing - page selection options, including odd/even, etc, is an absolute must.
I'm afraid you need to get a more up-to-date major beef.
KDE 4.3 has full printing support, with collation, banners, cover pages, headers and footers, etc.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130176</id>
	<title>Re:Kugler?</title>
	<author>shaji</author>
	<datestamp>1258478880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did you mean to say Jesus Khrist?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you mean to say Jesus Khrist ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you mean to say Jesus Khrist?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30128886</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30135912</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258456020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I never knew about the "System Activity" thing.  It's actually quite helpful.  Thank you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I never knew about the " System Activity " thing .
It 's actually quite helpful .
Thank you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I never knew about the "System Activity" thing.
It's actually quite helpful.
Thank you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30131576</id>
	<title>Re:Manually semantic != semantic</title>
	<author>Joe Snipe</author>
	<datestamp>1258484880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I always felt that the only way to properly handle tags (since the advent of ID3), was at the file system level.  I mean that's basically what names and extensions are, you know?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I always felt that the only way to properly handle tags ( since the advent of ID3 ) , was at the file system level .
I mean that 's basically what names and extensions are , you know ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always felt that the only way to properly handle tags (since the advent of ID3), was at the file system level.
I mean that's basically what names and extensions are, you know?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129478</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130426</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>RiotingPacifist</author>
	<datestamp>1258480020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think thats because most of us switched to htop because the kde3 version did a lot and as a result was slow to launch.<br>regarding ctrl+esc, i think it's pretty good however i need keybinding, something like<br>/ = move focus to quicksearch (great tool btw)<br>f9 / k = kill<br>f7/f8/r = renice<br>s,h,i,t,c,1,2 = send signals stop, hup, etc (not needed but while your at it why not)</p><p>Also nice would be policykit integration to launch the system monitor with a -ve niceness</p><p>The system monitor is much more buggy (crashed while i was look at it here, crashes if i change the monitor background color for networking):<br>1) it seams to take a lot of cpu, is it drawing graphs even if that tab is in the background and can that be avoided?<br>2) the graphs don't have enough settings (for example opaque fill instead of translucent (or no fill, or no smoothing on the lines)<br>3) You can't remove the default 2 tabs (if i make a better tab for monitoring my system settings i shouldn't waste resources on yours)<br>4) ksysguardd seams to run all the time and i can't find out where to disable it (might be a fedora packaging issue)<br>5) status bar info could contain number of running processes<br>*) no way to hide the menubar (i consider this a bug in any kde program that doesn't implement it)</p><p>anyway thanks for ctrl+esc it looks like a good GUI alternative to htop, just add some keybindings and i would use it over htop</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think thats because most of us switched to htop because the kde3 version did a lot and as a result was slow to launch.regarding ctrl + esc , i think it 's pretty good however i need keybinding , something like/ = move focus to quicksearch ( great tool btw ) f9 / k = killf7/f8/r = renices,h,i,t,c,1,2 = send signals stop , hup , etc ( not needed but while your at it why not ) Also nice would be policykit integration to launch the system monitor with a -ve nicenessThe system monitor is much more buggy ( crashed while i was look at it here , crashes if i change the monitor background color for networking ) : 1 ) it seams to take a lot of cpu , is it drawing graphs even if that tab is in the background and can that be avoided ? 2 ) the graphs do n't have enough settings ( for example opaque fill instead of translucent ( or no fill , or no smoothing on the lines ) 3 ) You ca n't remove the default 2 tabs ( if i make a better tab for monitoring my system settings i should n't waste resources on yours ) 4 ) ksysguardd seams to run all the time and i ca n't find out where to disable it ( might be a fedora packaging issue ) 5 ) status bar info could contain number of running processes * ) no way to hide the menubar ( i consider this a bug in any kde program that does n't implement it ) anyway thanks for ctrl + esc it looks like a good GUI alternative to htop , just add some keybindings and i would use it over htop</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think thats because most of us switched to htop because the kde3 version did a lot and as a result was slow to launch.regarding ctrl+esc, i think it's pretty good however i need keybinding, something like/ = move focus to quicksearch (great tool btw)f9 / k = killf7/f8/r = renices,h,i,t,c,1,2 = send signals stop, hup, etc (not needed but while your at it why not)Also nice would be policykit integration to launch the system monitor with a -ve nicenessThe system monitor is much more buggy (crashed while i was look at it here, crashes if i change the monitor background color for networking):1) it seams to take a lot of cpu, is it drawing graphs even if that tab is in the background and can that be avoided?2) the graphs don't have enough settings (for example opaque fill instead of translucent (or no fill, or no smoothing on the lines)3) You can't remove the default 2 tabs (if i make a better tab for monitoring my system settings i shouldn't waste resources on yours)4) ksysguardd seams to run all the time and i can't find out where to disable it (might be a fedora packaging issue)5) status bar info could contain number of running processes*) no way to hide the menubar (i consider this a bug in any kde program that doesn't implement it)anyway thanks for ctrl+esc it looks like a good GUI alternative to htop, just add some keybindings and i would use it over htop</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129006</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30136144</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>JohnFluxx</author>
	<datestamp>1258457160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Will do that.<br>2. Hmm, maybe in the bottom left hand corner I could add one of those Help drop-down buttons that has Help and About?<br>3. Right click on the top of the column and chose megabyte/gigabyte.  I'm not sure how to make that more discoverable?<br>4. Thanks<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Will do that.2 .
Hmm , maybe in the bottom left hand corner I could add one of those Help drop-down buttons that has Help and About ? 3 .
Right click on the top of the column and chose megabyte/gigabyte .
I 'm not sure how to make that more discoverable ? 4 .
Thanks : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Will do that.2.
Hmm, maybe in the bottom left hand corner I could add one of those Help drop-down buttons that has Help and About?3.
Right click on the top of the column and chose megabyte/gigabyte.
I'm not sure how to make that more discoverable?4.
Thanks :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30138546</id>
	<title>Re:Please: No More Vertical Text</title>
	<author>Grizzlysmit</author>
	<datestamp>1258470360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Dear KDE devs,</p><p>Please rethink the <a href="http://i26.tinypic.com/2po8o06.jpg" title="tinypic.com" rel="nofollow">vertical text</a> [tinypic.com] that has infected KDE4 like so much ringworm. It's hard to read, hard to use, and completely unnecessary. Also, please stop aping Windows Vista and 7. Or at least stop copying their bad ideas.</p><p>Thanks.</p></div><p>I personally love vertical text and have no trouble reading it<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D long live vertical text, but yeah don't copy windows or that OSX of apple their crap</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear KDE devs,Please rethink the vertical text [ tinypic.com ] that has infected KDE4 like so much ringworm .
It 's hard to read , hard to use , and completely unnecessary .
Also , please stop aping Windows Vista and 7 .
Or at least stop copying their bad ideas.Thanks.I personally love vertical text and have no trouble reading it : D long live vertical text , but yeah do n't copy windows or that OSX of apple their crap</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear KDE devs,Please rethink the vertical text [tinypic.com] that has infected KDE4 like so much ringworm.
It's hard to read, hard to use, and completely unnecessary.
Also, please stop aping Windows Vista and 7.
Or at least stop copying their bad ideas.Thanks.I personally love vertical text and have no trouble reading it :D long live vertical text, but yeah don't copy windows or that OSX of apple their crap
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30131586</id>
	<title>Administrator mode?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258484880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>4 major releases and 2 years in, and yet there is still no administrator mode when logged in as a normal user. Logging out and back in as root isn't an option sometimes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>4 major releases and 2 years in , and yet there is still no administrator mode when logged in as a normal user .
Logging out and back in as root is n't an option sometimes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>4 major releases and 2 years in, and yet there is still no administrator mode when logged in as a normal user.
Logging out and back in as root isn't an option sometimes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129978</id>
	<title>Re:What I miss, What I want.</title>
	<author>simcop2387</author>
	<datestamp>1258478040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>this has been mostly replaced with gwenview</p><p>gwenview *.jpg #or for an immediate instant slideshow; gwenview -s *.jpg</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>this has been mostly replaced with gwenviewgwenview * .jpg # or for an immediate instant slideshow ; gwenview -s * .jpg</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this has been mostly replaced with gwenviewgwenview *.jpg #or for an immediate instant slideshow; gwenview -s *.jpg</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129128</id>
	<title>Re:Manually semantic != semantic</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1258474620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Barring the advent of AI, or at least uncannily clever automated systems, there really isn't much alternative to manual tagging(outside of a bunch of specific, though admittedly useful, special cases like facial recognition tagging for images, or origin tagging that makes it easy to distinguish between "files I received as email attachments" and "files I downloaded from the web" and the like).<br> <br>

In my (admittedly lay) opinion, what makes "semantic desktop" 'desktop' is the fact that there is some consideration given to making tagging data meaningfully useful across applications and the desktop environment, rather than just inside one particular application(as has historically been the case with MP3 player programs, photo organizers, and similar). Demanding that it solve this problem <i>and</i> somehow automatically tag the untagged seems unfairly dismissive of a useful incremental step.<br> <br>

What would be helpful, in terms of increasing the amount of already tagged stuff; but would open up a giant can of worms, partly in terms of legacy dealings, but mostly in terms of inadvertent information leakage or malicious tag pollution, would be making the transfer of tags along with the file they describe from system to system easy. ID3 tagging, for instance, is largely manual; but works quite well because, for any given MP3, the odds are pretty decent that <i>somebody</i> has bothered to do the legwork properly and the tags migrate with the file(because they are inside it) and files with proper tags are considered more desirable than those without. Were that state of affairs more general, there would be a lot more tagged files without much more work by any particular individual. Of course, given that many tags are far more sensitive or subjective than ID3 tags tend to be, some rather deep thinking would be in order to make that actually work properly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Barring the advent of AI , or at least uncannily clever automated systems , there really is n't much alternative to manual tagging ( outside of a bunch of specific , though admittedly useful , special cases like facial recognition tagging for images , or origin tagging that makes it easy to distinguish between " files I received as email attachments " and " files I downloaded from the web " and the like ) .
In my ( admittedly lay ) opinion , what makes " semantic desktop " 'desktop ' is the fact that there is some consideration given to making tagging data meaningfully useful across applications and the desktop environment , rather than just inside one particular application ( as has historically been the case with MP3 player programs , photo organizers , and similar ) .
Demanding that it solve this problem and somehow automatically tag the untagged seems unfairly dismissive of a useful incremental step .
What would be helpful , in terms of increasing the amount of already tagged stuff ; but would open up a giant can of worms , partly in terms of legacy dealings , but mostly in terms of inadvertent information leakage or malicious tag pollution , would be making the transfer of tags along with the file they describe from system to system easy .
ID3 tagging , for instance , is largely manual ; but works quite well because , for any given MP3 , the odds are pretty decent that somebody has bothered to do the legwork properly and the tags migrate with the file ( because they are inside it ) and files with proper tags are considered more desirable than those without .
Were that state of affairs more general , there would be a lot more tagged files without much more work by any particular individual .
Of course , given that many tags are far more sensitive or subjective than ID3 tags tend to be , some rather deep thinking would be in order to make that actually work properly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Barring the advent of AI, or at least uncannily clever automated systems, there really isn't much alternative to manual tagging(outside of a bunch of specific, though admittedly useful, special cases like facial recognition tagging for images, or origin tagging that makes it easy to distinguish between "files I received as email attachments" and "files I downloaded from the web" and the like).
In my (admittedly lay) opinion, what makes "semantic desktop" 'desktop' is the fact that there is some consideration given to making tagging data meaningfully useful across applications and the desktop environment, rather than just inside one particular application(as has historically been the case with MP3 player programs, photo organizers, and similar).
Demanding that it solve this problem and somehow automatically tag the untagged seems unfairly dismissive of a useful incremental step.
What would be helpful, in terms of increasing the amount of already tagged stuff; but would open up a giant can of worms, partly in terms of legacy dealings, but mostly in terms of inadvertent information leakage or malicious tag pollution, would be making the transfer of tags along with the file they describe from system to system easy.
ID3 tagging, for instance, is largely manual; but works quite well because, for any given MP3, the odds are pretty decent that somebody has bothered to do the legwork properly and the tags migrate with the file(because they are inside it) and files with proper tags are considered more desirable than those without.
Were that state of affairs more general, there would be a lot more tagged files without much more work by any particular individual.
Of course, given that many tags are far more sensitive or subjective than ID3 tags tend to be, some rather deep thinking would be in order to make that actually work properly.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130330</id>
	<title>Re:Manually semantic != semantic</title>
	<author>Z34107</author>
	<datestamp>1258479540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This "semantic desktop" sounds suspiciously like the Vista/Windows 7 start menu search.  Type in a date, you'll get pictures taken on that date.  Type in a name, it'll pull e-mails from outlook, Word documents with that author, etc.  Type in an artist, you'll get mp3s.  Etc, etc.</p><p>Is this really just Windows Search?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This " semantic desktop " sounds suspiciously like the Vista/Windows 7 start menu search .
Type in a date , you 'll get pictures taken on that date .
Type in a name , it 'll pull e-mails from outlook , Word documents with that author , etc .
Type in an artist , you 'll get mp3s .
Etc , etc.Is this really just Windows Search ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This "semantic desktop" sounds suspiciously like the Vista/Windows 7 start menu search.
Type in a date, you'll get pictures taken on that date.
Type in a name, it'll pull e-mails from outlook, Word documents with that author, etc.
Type in an artist, you'll get mp3s.
Etc, etc.Is this really just Windows Search?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30130138</id>
	<title>Re:Kugler?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258478700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you mean: Jesus Krist</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you mean : Jesus Krist</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you mean: Jesus Krist</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30132074</id>
	<title>Re:Please: No More Vertical Text</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258486380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, you're dumb. Click on "Documents" to collapse the pane. Press Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F or deselect from View -&gt; Toolbars to hide it completely.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , you 're dumb .
Click on " Documents " to collapse the pane .
Press Ctrl + Alt + Shift + F or deselect from View - &gt; Toolbars to hide it completely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, you're dumb.
Click on "Documents" to collapse the pane.
Press Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F or deselect from View -&gt; Toolbars to hide it completely.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129826</id>
	<title>Re:Manually semantic != semantic</title>
	<author>hey!</author>
	<datestamp>1258477320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, I dunno.   Training some kind of Bayesian algorithm seems to work well enough for spam filtering.</p><p>I think the real problem is knowing the significance of some piece of information to us will be *in the future*.  As user interfaces become more "semantic", I doubt they will be as usable as a stable way of organizing data.</p><p>We can take a lesson from physical filing systems.  There are really only three methods of file organization that make sense: alphabetical, chronological and by physical size (this sucker won't fit in the cabinet).  I once worked for a guy who insisted on organizing the company files by category: Hot, medium, cool, cold, interested in product X, interested in product Y, vendors of A, vendors of B, related to project M.  The problem is that these categories aren't stable or mutually exclusive.  Some files would languish in "Hot" long after the prospects lost interest.  Sometimes a cold prospect would become hot, but its file wasn't in cold because it fell into some other category.   Every time you had to file something, you were faced with dilemma as to which of the many possible categories might apply.</p><p>What was worse is that he would come in on weekends and reorganize the files.  Accounting went *nuts* because invoices would disappear from files and they had to guess where he might have put it.   This demonstrates that the semantic significance of an artifact depends on its context (e.g., sales vs. accounts receivable, or current self vs. future self).</p><p>One function of a record keeping system is to impose some stability on information in a world that is constantly changing world.  Semantic metadata is most welcome, but it's no good as a stable organizing principle for information.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I dunno .
Training some kind of Bayesian algorithm seems to work well enough for spam filtering.I think the real problem is knowing the significance of some piece of information to us will be * in the future * .
As user interfaces become more " semantic " , I doubt they will be as usable as a stable way of organizing data.We can take a lesson from physical filing systems .
There are really only three methods of file organization that make sense : alphabetical , chronological and by physical size ( this sucker wo n't fit in the cabinet ) .
I once worked for a guy who insisted on organizing the company files by category : Hot , medium , cool , cold , interested in product X , interested in product Y , vendors of A , vendors of B , related to project M. The problem is that these categories are n't stable or mutually exclusive .
Some files would languish in " Hot " long after the prospects lost interest .
Sometimes a cold prospect would become hot , but its file was n't in cold because it fell into some other category .
Every time you had to file something , you were faced with dilemma as to which of the many possible categories might apply.What was worse is that he would come in on weekends and reorganize the files .
Accounting went * nuts * because invoices would disappear from files and they had to guess where he might have put it .
This demonstrates that the semantic significance of an artifact depends on its context ( e.g. , sales vs. accounts receivable , or current self vs. future self ) .One function of a record keeping system is to impose some stability on information in a world that is constantly changing world .
Semantic metadata is most welcome , but it 's no good as a stable organizing principle for information .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I dunno.
Training some kind of Bayesian algorithm seems to work well enough for spam filtering.I think the real problem is knowing the significance of some piece of information to us will be *in the future*.
As user interfaces become more "semantic", I doubt they will be as usable as a stable way of organizing data.We can take a lesson from physical filing systems.
There are really only three methods of file organization that make sense: alphabetical, chronological and by physical size (this sucker won't fit in the cabinet).
I once worked for a guy who insisted on organizing the company files by category: Hot, medium, cool, cold, interested in product X, interested in product Y, vendors of A, vendors of B, related to project M.  The problem is that these categories aren't stable or mutually exclusive.
Some files would languish in "Hot" long after the prospects lost interest.
Sometimes a cold prospect would become hot, but its file wasn't in cold because it fell into some other category.
Every time you had to file something, you were faced with dilemma as to which of the many possible categories might apply.What was worse is that he would come in on weekends and reorganize the files.
Accounting went *nuts* because invoices would disappear from files and they had to guess where he might have put it.
This demonstrates that the semantic significance of an artifact depends on its context (e.g., sales vs. accounts receivable, or current self vs. future self).One function of a record keeping system is to impose some stability on information in a world that is constantly changing world.
Semantic metadata is most welcome, but it's no good as a stable organizing principle for information.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30134864</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>fritsd</author>
	<datestamp>1258452420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nice. didn't know it existed. Makes it easier to kill pulseaudio when it misbehaves<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nice .
did n't know it existed .
Makes it easier to kill pulseaudio when it misbehaves : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nice.
didn't know it existed.
Makes it easier to kill pulseaudio when it misbehaves :-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_17_1358202.30129346</id>
	<title>Re:System Activity feedback</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258475580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Please add "What's this" help entries to your widgets.<br>2. Find a way to cram in an "About" button if you want some feedback. There is no easy way for the user to find out who the developer is and how to get in touch with you.<br>3. megabyte and gigabyte units for the memory usage might help make it a bit more readable<br>4. Otherwise: great work.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Please add " What 's this " help entries to your widgets.2 .
Find a way to cram in an " About " button if you want some feedback .
There is no easy way for the user to find out who the developer is and how to get in touch with you.3 .
megabyte and gigabyte units for the memory usage might help make it a bit more readable4 .
Otherwise : great work .
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Please add "What's this" help entries to your widgets.2.
Find a way to cram in an "About" button if you want some feedback.
There is no easy way for the user to find out who the developer is and how to get in touch with you.3.
megabyte and gigabyte units for the memory usage might help make it a bit more readable4.
Otherwise: great work.
;-)</sentencetext>
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