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	<title>Russia Recalls <em>Modern Warfare 2</em></title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1258395120000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:my/.username@@@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">eldavojohn</a> writes <i>"You may recall <a href="http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/10/28/1634218/Leaked-emModern-Warfare-2em-Footage-Causes-Outrage">much ado over some questionable footage</a> in the latest <em>Call of Duty</em> game.  Well, that footage has led to a <a href="http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/11/16/russia-gives-mw2-cold-shoulder">recall of <em>Modern Warfare 2</em> in Russia</a>.  Seems the Russian government was none too happy about the portrayal of Russia in the game and decided to yank it from stores.  Infinity Ward has responded with a patch that removes the 'No Russian' mission (the content in question) from the storyline.  Before you overly criticize the Russian government, there may be some truth to the claim that the game's story line overly demonizes Russians as just terrorists as the Russian site <a href="http://www.gotps3.ru/article/vsjo\_pravda\_call\_of\_duty\_modern\_warfare\_2\_podvergnuta\_tsenzure/">GotPS3.ru alleges</a>.  Is cultural sensitivity becoming an overly played card in the gaming world?  Not too long ago, <a href="http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/09/23/1448224/Wolfenstein-Being-Recalled-In-Germany"> <em>Wolfenstein</em> was recalled</a> in Germany for containing Nazi symbols."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>eldavojohn writes " You may recall much ado over some questionable footage in the latest Call of Duty game .
Well , that footage has led to a recall of Modern Warfare 2 in Russia .
Seems the Russian government was none too happy about the portrayal of Russia in the game and decided to yank it from stores .
Infinity Ward has responded with a patch that removes the 'No Russian ' mission ( the content in question ) from the storyline .
Before you overly criticize the Russian government , there may be some truth to the claim that the game 's story line overly demonizes Russians as just terrorists as the Russian site GotPS3.ru alleges .
Is cultural sensitivity becoming an overly played card in the gaming world ?
Not too long ago , Wolfenstein was recalled in Germany for containing Nazi symbols .
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<sentencetext>eldavojohn writes "You may recall much ado over some questionable footage in the latest Call of Duty game.
Well, that footage has led to a recall of Modern Warfare 2 in Russia.
Seems the Russian government was none too happy about the portrayal of Russia in the game and decided to yank it from stores.
Infinity Ward has responded with a patch that removes the 'No Russian' mission (the content in question) from the storyline.
Before you overly criticize the Russian government, there may be some truth to the claim that the game's story line overly demonizes Russians as just terrorists as the Russian site GotPS3.ru alleges.
Is cultural sensitivity becoming an overly played card in the gaming world?
Not too long ago,  Wolfenstein was recalled in Germany for containing Nazi symbols.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30126744</id>
	<title>Re:CoD6: Vietnam</title>
	<author>denmarkw00t</author>
	<datestamp>1258491000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I actually like where you're going with this. I mean, could they do it? Would someone from the gov't of either America or Vietnam "stop" it from being released? Would retailers sell it? I hope so, this is America!</p><p>And I do mean that. As ugly as our history - as the world's history - may be, it is OUR history: you, me, people across the globe. We all come from generally violent, carelessness-for-life histories at some point or another, and to not show or discuss the atrocities before us, we're doomed to see them happen again and again.</p><p>This is what gets me about history books - I have friends who are teaching aids in elementary schools, and most of the history lessons are 1) embellished, 2) stretched or 3) down-right false. And then the kids go to middle and high school, where we learn a little about how things were different than what was printed. Then we go to college, where we learn that a lot of terrible things happened we didn't know about. Then we grow up, angry at lies and we DON'T lash out? No, we do. Old wounds don't heal for history by forgetting, but by remembering and learning and moving on with that knowledge, lest we invade some other country, end up with military and civilian casualties, and calmly look the other way as we rewrite history to suit ourselves while we commit horrid atrocities.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually like where you 're going with this .
I mean , could they do it ?
Would someone from the gov't of either America or Vietnam " stop " it from being released ?
Would retailers sell it ?
I hope so , this is America ! And I do mean that .
As ugly as our history - as the world 's history - may be , it is OUR history : you , me , people across the globe .
We all come from generally violent , carelessness-for-life histories at some point or another , and to not show or discuss the atrocities before us , we 're doomed to see them happen again and again.This is what gets me about history books - I have friends who are teaching aids in elementary schools , and most of the history lessons are 1 ) embellished , 2 ) stretched or 3 ) down-right false .
And then the kids go to middle and high school , where we learn a little about how things were different than what was printed .
Then we go to college , where we learn that a lot of terrible things happened we did n't know about .
Then we grow up , angry at lies and we DO N'T lash out ?
No , we do .
Old wounds do n't heal for history by forgetting , but by remembering and learning and moving on with that knowledge , lest we invade some other country , end up with military and civilian casualties , and calmly look the other way as we rewrite history to suit ourselves while we commit horrid atrocities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually like where you're going with this.
I mean, could they do it?
Would someone from the gov't of either America or Vietnam "stop" it from being released?
Would retailers sell it?
I hope so, this is America!And I do mean that.
As ugly as our history - as the world's history - may be, it is OUR history: you, me, people across the globe.
We all come from generally violent, carelessness-for-life histories at some point or another, and to not show or discuss the atrocities before us, we're doomed to see them happen again and again.This is what gets me about history books - I have friends who are teaching aids in elementary schools, and most of the history lessons are 1) embellished, 2) stretched or 3) down-right false.
And then the kids go to middle and high school, where we learn a little about how things were different than what was printed.
Then we go to college, where we learn that a lot of terrible things happened we didn't know about.
Then we grow up, angry at lies and we DON'T lash out?
No, we do.
Old wounds don't heal for history by forgetting, but by remembering and learning and moving on with that knowledge, lest we invade some other country, end up with military and civilian casualties, and calmly look the other way as we rewrite history to suit ourselves while we commit horrid atrocities.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118672</id>
	<title>Re:Sad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258399620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If anybody created a video game depicting Americans the same way many video games depict Russians/Arabs/enemy ethnicity of the day, the game would be branded a "terrorist training tool" and its creators would be put on a "terrorist watch list" and not allowed to live normal lives as free human beings (assuming they were in US or its puppet states like UK).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If anybody created a video game depicting Americans the same way many video games depict Russians/Arabs/enemy ethnicity of the day , the game would be branded a " terrorist training tool " and its creators would be put on a " terrorist watch list " and not allowed to live normal lives as free human beings ( assuming they were in US or its puppet states like UK ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If anybody created a video game depicting Americans the same way many video games depict Russians/Arabs/enemy ethnicity of the day, the game would be branded a "terrorist training tool" and its creators would be put on a "terrorist watch list" and not allowed to live normal lives as free human beings (assuming they were in US or its puppet states like UK).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119542</id>
	<title>Re:Swastika's are a legal issue.</title>
	<author>jiteo</author>
	<datestamp>1258402200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who is Swatika, and what does she have that's illegal to display in Germany?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who is Swatika , and what does she have that 's illegal to display in Germany ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who is Swatika, and what does she have that's illegal to display in Germany?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119408</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258401780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know where your teacher went or who he/she was trying to talk to, but that is completely inaccurate.<br>During my final years of highschool in Germany we spend twice about half a year in history lessons on 1st and 2nd world war. Our history teacher even organized to go and watch Schindler's List with our class.<br>Of course there are radical Neonazi movements etc. (as there are in the US), which as usual is a tiny part of the population getting disproportionate media publicity. The reason Nazi symbols and the like are forbidden in Germany is not to hush it all up as you seem to imply, but in an effort to crack down on those elements. So it is really the opposite, because of our history we tend to be more sensitive to these things, not because we try to deny what happened, but because we know very well, probably better than many other nations, what those things can lead to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know where your teacher went or who he/she was trying to talk to , but that is completely inaccurate.During my final years of highschool in Germany we spend twice about half a year in history lessons on 1st and 2nd world war .
Our history teacher even organized to go and watch Schindler 's List with our class.Of course there are radical Neonazi movements etc .
( as there are in the US ) , which as usual is a tiny part of the population getting disproportionate media publicity .
The reason Nazi symbols and the like are forbidden in Germany is not to hush it all up as you seem to imply , but in an effort to crack down on those elements .
So it is really the opposite , because of our history we tend to be more sensitive to these things , not because we try to deny what happened , but because we know very well , probably better than many other nations , what those things can lead to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know where your teacher went or who he/she was trying to talk to, but that is completely inaccurate.During my final years of highschool in Germany we spend twice about half a year in history lessons on 1st and 2nd world war.
Our history teacher even organized to go and watch Schindler's List with our class.Of course there are radical Neonazi movements etc.
(as there are in the US), which as usual is a tiny part of the population getting disproportionate media publicity.
The reason Nazi symbols and the like are forbidden in Germany is not to hush it all up as you seem to imply, but in an effort to crack down on those elements.
So it is really the opposite, because of our history we tend to be more sensitive to these things, not because we try to deny what happened, but because we know very well, probably better than many other nations, what those things can lead to.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30121106</id>
	<title>Good</title>
	<author>genner</author>
	<datestamp>1258364520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That will teach em to remove dedicated server support.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That will teach em to remove dedicated server support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That will teach em to remove dedicated server support.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30122476</id>
	<title>Re:Swastika's are a legal issue.</title>
	<author>frosty\_tsm</author>
	<datestamp>1258369380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That part about "flags, insignia, uniforms, slogans and forms of greeting" is what got them--not a big fat swastika but some more obscure symbols.</p></div><p>One reason not to wear a biker shirt or jacket over there.  Around where I live (U.S.), it seems that most logos have symbols from WWII Germany.  Granted, a yank wearing an iron cross in 1946 said less about his politics and more about who he killed in the war.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That part about " flags , insignia , uniforms , slogans and forms of greeting " is what got them--not a big fat swastika but some more obscure symbols.One reason not to wear a biker shirt or jacket over there .
Around where I live ( U.S. ) , it seems that most logos have symbols from WWII Germany .
Granted , a yank wearing an iron cross in 1946 said less about his politics and more about who he killed in the war .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That part about "flags, insignia, uniforms, slogans and forms of greeting" is what got them--not a big fat swastika but some more obscure symbols.One reason not to wear a biker shirt or jacket over there.
Around where I live (U.S.), it seems that most logos have symbols from WWII Germany.
Granted, a yank wearing an iron cross in 1946 said less about his politics and more about who he killed in the war.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118490</id>
	<title>Swastika's are a legal issue.</title>
	<author>crowne</author>
	<datestamp>1258399020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Its actually illegal to display swatika's in public in Germany and Austria.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its actually illegal to display swatika 's in public in Germany and Austria .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its actually illegal to display swatika's in public in Germany and Austria.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30121678</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>maestroX</author>
	<datestamp>1258366980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No offence meant, but West Germany appears to have a culture of denial. (Without it, I doubt the country wouldn't be as democratic/prosperous as it is right now).
<p>
Even today at important WWII landmarks in Germany I find the documentation on the actions of the Nazi regime ridiculously sparse. Go visit Cologne (city of former Gestapo headquarters) and find the lack of information.. while a lot of people have disappeared there. When I travel around Germany, which I like, rebuilt cities appear to bear no resemblance of the black history..
</p><p>
So yes, compared to surrounding countries, Netherlands, France, Poland, I find the lack of openness on this topic (w.r.t. information, no history) seemingly denying.
</p><p>
That said, I do think the German government nowadays as being one of the more progressive and constructive of Europe.
</p><p>
Fast forward to today's culture:  playing the victim. Shouting censorship and behaving like a child who's toy has been taken, when the government/people try and limit violence and references to Nazi's in games.
Perhaps it's not about Big Brother government, but about respect.
</p><p>
So yes, considering your well-informed education about the atrocities in WWII (*never again*) and your rigid stance on playing what you choose (i.e. WWII revivals), you are seriously in denial.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No offence meant , but West Germany appears to have a culture of denial .
( Without it , I doubt the country would n't be as democratic/prosperous as it is right now ) .
Even today at important WWII landmarks in Germany I find the documentation on the actions of the Nazi regime ridiculously sparse .
Go visit Cologne ( city of former Gestapo headquarters ) and find the lack of information.. while a lot of people have disappeared there .
When I travel around Germany , which I like , rebuilt cities appear to bear no resemblance of the black history. . So yes , compared to surrounding countries , Netherlands , France , Poland , I find the lack of openness on this topic ( w.r.t .
information , no history ) seemingly denying .
That said , I do think the German government nowadays as being one of the more progressive and constructive of Europe .
Fast forward to today 's culture : playing the victim .
Shouting censorship and behaving like a child who 's toy has been taken , when the government/people try and limit violence and references to Nazi 's in games .
Perhaps it 's not about Big Brother government , but about respect .
So yes , considering your well-informed education about the atrocities in WWII ( * never again * ) and your rigid stance on playing what you choose ( i.e .
WWII revivals ) , you are seriously in denial .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No offence meant, but West Germany appears to have a culture of denial.
(Without it, I doubt the country wouldn't be as democratic/prosperous as it is right now).
Even today at important WWII landmarks in Germany I find the documentation on the actions of the Nazi regime ridiculously sparse.
Go visit Cologne (city of former Gestapo headquarters) and find the lack of information.. while a lot of people have disappeared there.
When I travel around Germany, which I like, rebuilt cities appear to bear no resemblance of the black history..

So yes, compared to surrounding countries, Netherlands, France, Poland, I find the lack of openness on this topic (w.r.t.
information, no history) seemingly denying.
That said, I do think the German government nowadays as being one of the more progressive and constructive of Europe.
Fast forward to today's culture:  playing the victim.
Shouting censorship and behaving like a child who's toy has been taken, when the government/people try and limit violence and references to Nazi's in games.
Perhaps it's not about Big Brother government, but about respect.
So yes, considering your well-informed education about the atrocities in WWII (*never again*) and your rigid stance on playing what you choose (i.e.
WWII revivals), you are seriously in denial.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30129718</id>
	<title>Re:As a Russian</title>
	<author>The-Bus</author>
	<datestamp>1258476960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; If anything, the first MW was more ambiguous in that regard, since at least you had "good Russians" and "bad Russians"; in MW2, the former kind has apparently rapidly died out again, so we're back to good old stereotypes.</p><p>I'm not 100\% sure, but I believe the guy piloting the aircraft for Soap is Russian. Or at least he has an Eastern European name/accent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; If anything , the first MW was more ambiguous in that regard , since at least you had " good Russians " and " bad Russians " ; in MW2 , the former kind has apparently rapidly died out again , so we 're back to good old stereotypes.I 'm not 100 \ % sure , but I believe the guy piloting the aircraft for Soap is Russian .
Or at least he has an Eastern European name/accent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; If anything, the first MW was more ambiguous in that regard, since at least you had "good Russians" and "bad Russians"; in MW2, the former kind has apparently rapidly died out again, so we're back to good old stereotypes.I'm not 100\% sure, but I believe the guy piloting the aircraft for Soap is Russian.
Or at least he has an Eastern European name/accent.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120964</id>
	<title>"Recall" is a euphemism for "ban."</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258363920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Recall" is a euphemism for "ban."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Recall " is a euphemism for " ban .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Recall" is a euphemism for "ban.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118912</id>
	<title>Disclaimer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258400400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agreed that the game does slant a bad image of Russia. An introduction to the themes and a disclaimer could have really cleared up all the mess. When you portray a nationality as the antagonist, thick skinned or not, it does kind of sting a little. At the very least, a few people might be self conscious now that the rest of the world views them as imperialistic "will to power" war mongering opportunist. ALA USA post 9/11.</p><p>A brief disclaimer and introduction to the themes/plot narrative would have cleared the air that this is fiction and they just choose russia as the bad guys, purely out of fiction.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed that the game does slant a bad image of Russia .
An introduction to the themes and a disclaimer could have really cleared up all the mess .
When you portray a nationality as the antagonist , thick skinned or not , it does kind of sting a little .
At the very least , a few people might be self conscious now that the rest of the world views them as imperialistic " will to power " war mongering opportunist .
ALA USA post 9/11.A brief disclaimer and introduction to the themes/plot narrative would have cleared the air that this is fiction and they just choose russia as the bad guys , purely out of fiction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed that the game does slant a bad image of Russia.
An introduction to the themes and a disclaimer could have really cleared up all the mess.
When you portray a nationality as the antagonist, thick skinned or not, it does kind of sting a little.
At the very least, a few people might be self conscious now that the rest of the world views them as imperialistic "will to power" war mongering opportunist.
ALA USA post 9/11.A brief disclaimer and introduction to the themes/plot narrative would have cleared the air that this is fiction and they just choose russia as the bad guys, purely out of fiction.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30122122</id>
	<title>Interesting...</title>
	<author>digitalsolo</author>
	<datestamp>1258368180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The interesting thing in all of this, is the terrorist is a Russian, but he's not working FOR Russia.   Half of the game is trying to get information to show Russia what happened and why.
<br>
More interesting to me is the fact that the US military (well, at least certain people in it) aren't exactly cast in a good light either, yet no one is railing against it here.
<br>
Americans are slaughtered in any number of American made games.   Big deal, it's a game.
<br>
That said, it's their government, they can ban what they like.   How very American of us to get outraged at what another country does to it's own citizens.   Perhaps a more enlightened approach would be to let them do as they please on their own land, eh?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The interesting thing in all of this , is the terrorist is a Russian , but he 's not working FOR Russia .
Half of the game is trying to get information to show Russia what happened and why .
More interesting to me is the fact that the US military ( well , at least certain people in it ) are n't exactly cast in a good light either , yet no one is railing against it here .
Americans are slaughtered in any number of American made games .
Big deal , it 's a game .
That said , it 's their government , they can ban what they like .
How very American of us to get outraged at what another country does to it 's own citizens .
Perhaps a more enlightened approach would be to let them do as they please on their own land , eh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The interesting thing in all of this, is the terrorist is a Russian, but he's not working FOR Russia.
Half of the game is trying to get information to show Russia what happened and why.
More interesting to me is the fact that the US military (well, at least certain people in it) aren't exactly cast in a good light either, yet no one is railing against it here.
Americans are slaughtered in any number of American made games.
Big deal, it's a game.
That said, it's their government, they can ban what they like.
How very American of us to get outraged at what another country does to it's own citizens.
Perhaps a more enlightened approach would be to let them do as they please on their own land, eh?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30123614</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258374600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's not like we don't have a culture of denial here in the US.  We wiped out the American Indians pretty remorselessly.  That's pretty close to genocide, but it doesn't get taught that way in our schools.  Every nation tries to overlook the terrible things its done in the past.  People and countries are pretty much all the same, wherever you go.</p></div><p>Well, the clever thing is just the phrase it the right way. It was the European immigrants that killed the native Americans. When that was done they became Americans. Problem solved.</p></div>
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<tokenext>It 's not like we do n't have a culture of denial here in the US .
We wiped out the American Indians pretty remorselessly .
That 's pretty close to genocide , but it does n't get taught that way in our schools .
Every nation tries to overlook the terrible things its done in the past .
People and countries are pretty much all the same , wherever you go.Well , the clever thing is just the phrase it the right way .
It was the European immigrants that killed the native Americans .
When that was done they became Americans .
Problem solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not like we don't have a culture of denial here in the US.
We wiped out the American Indians pretty remorselessly.
That's pretty close to genocide, but it doesn't get taught that way in our schools.
Every nation tries to overlook the terrible things its done in the past.
People and countries are pretty much all the same, wherever you go.Well, the clever thing is just the phrase it the right way.
It was the European immigrants that killed the native Americans.
When that was done they became Americans.
Problem solved.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30157294</id>
	<title>Re:Have they played the mission?</title>
	<author>Gaffod</author>
	<datestamp>1258649280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So the CIA kills Russian civilians... We have US breaking numerous pacts, committing an action of -unannounced- war and committing a war crime (civilians!) in the process.

What's this about the "Russian antagonist"? Seems to me the Americans are the real terrorists.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So the CIA kills Russian civilians... We have US breaking numerous pacts , committing an action of -unannounced- war and committing a war crime ( civilians !
) in the process .
What 's this about the " Russian antagonist " ?
Seems to me the Americans are the real terrorists .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So the CIA kills Russian civilians... We have US breaking numerous pacts, committing an action of -unannounced- war and committing a war crime (civilians!
) in the process.
What's this about the "Russian antagonist"?
Seems to me the Americans are the real terrorists.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118588</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30124764</id>
	<title>Russians buy games?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258382400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait a second here... Russians actually buy their games?!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait a second here... Russians actually buy their games ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait a second here... Russians actually buy their games?
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30127418</id>
	<title>Re:As a Russian</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258458840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey you are not the only one the US fears an invasion from, the worst is Austria we are the root of all evil<br>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094077/</p><p>greetings to Russia<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey you are not the only one the US fears an invasion from , the worst is Austria we are the root of all evilhttp : //www.imdb.com/title/tt0094077/greetings to Russia .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey you are not the only one the US fears an invasion from, the worst is Austria we are the root of all evilhttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094077/greetings to Russia ...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30123564</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118442</id>
	<title>eat my shorts slashdot !!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258398840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Eat my shorts slashdot !!</p><p>And you too commies !!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Eat my shorts slashdot !
! And you too commies !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eat my shorts slashdot !
!And you too commies !
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119652</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258402560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to say that your teacher has no clue what he's talking about, even though this behavior was widespread in the generation fighting this war (which is pretty obvious...try to explain to yourself you took part in genocide) this holds no longer true today.<br>I am German and WWII is anything but glossed over. I'd even say it is exaggerated. During my school career WWII and our 'Sonderweg' (special path in history) were central aspects, they were repeated over and over until it came out of your ears. The German culture, up to this day, has not recovered from the moral blow.</p><p>Our government and population are outright afraid of being accused to have forgotten the past. We will do anything to tell you it is our fault anytime, we will stoop as low as we can. To this date it is not possible for Germany to talk openly to Poland or Israel for example. We cannot do a neutral decision in matters of immigration and there are a thousand other things like that (to which the ban of the swastika belongs).</p><p>It is because our politicians and population always feel the sword of Damocles above their heads. If there is one thing you have to be afraid of in German politics or community then it is being called a Nazi or being compared to them. It's like Godwin's in real life. You can override any argument if you play that card.</p><p>Hm, this got a little long. Well just as additional value for all you non Germans out there (especially to the Americans, since that student exchange I feel some of them need a reality update) : Hitler is dead, yes we have electricity and we don't use the Hitler salute anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to say that your teacher has no clue what he 's talking about , even though this behavior was widespread in the generation fighting this war ( which is pretty obvious...try to explain to yourself you took part in genocide ) this holds no longer true today.I am German and WWII is anything but glossed over .
I 'd even say it is exaggerated .
During my school career WWII and our 'Sonderweg ' ( special path in history ) were central aspects , they were repeated over and over until it came out of your ears .
The German culture , up to this day , has not recovered from the moral blow.Our government and population are outright afraid of being accused to have forgotten the past .
We will do anything to tell you it is our fault anytime , we will stoop as low as we can .
To this date it is not possible for Germany to talk openly to Poland or Israel for example .
We can not do a neutral decision in matters of immigration and there are a thousand other things like that ( to which the ban of the swastika belongs ) .It is because our politicians and population always feel the sword of Damocles above their heads .
If there is one thing you have to be afraid of in German politics or community then it is being called a Nazi or being compared to them .
It 's like Godwin 's in real life .
You can override any argument if you play that card.Hm , this got a little long .
Well just as additional value for all you non Germans out there ( especially to the Americans , since that student exchange I feel some of them need a reality update ) : Hitler is dead , yes we have electricity and we do n't use the Hitler salute anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to say that your teacher has no clue what he's talking about, even though this behavior was widespread in the generation fighting this war (which is pretty obvious...try to explain to yourself you took part in genocide) this holds no longer true today.I am German and WWII is anything but glossed over.
I'd even say it is exaggerated.
During my school career WWII and our 'Sonderweg' (special path in history) were central aspects, they were repeated over and over until it came out of your ears.
The German culture, up to this day, has not recovered from the moral blow.Our government and population are outright afraid of being accused to have forgotten the past.
We will do anything to tell you it is our fault anytime, we will stoop as low as we can.
To this date it is not possible for Germany to talk openly to Poland or Israel for example.
We cannot do a neutral decision in matters of immigration and there are a thousand other things like that (to which the ban of the swastika belongs).It is because our politicians and population always feel the sword of Damocles above their heads.
If there is one thing you have to be afraid of in German politics or community then it is being called a Nazi or being compared to them.
It's like Godwin's in real life.
You can override any argument if you play that card.Hm, this got a little long.
Well just as additional value for all you non Germans out there (especially to the Americans, since that student exchange I feel some of them need a reality update) : Hitler is dead, yes we have electricity and we don't use the Hitler salute anymore.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118788</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119858</id>
	<title>Re:CoD6: Vietnam</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258403100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would play that game.  With a boner.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would play that game .
With a boner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would play that game.
With a boner.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118542</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119936</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>mister\_playboy</author>
	<datestamp>1258403340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Much of the modern legal systems in both Germany and Japan still contains elements that were dictated to them by the Allies after WWII.  They did not choose this viewpoint entirely of their own accord, but accepted it as part of the peace agreements.</p><p>Any serious student of history sees their can be no moral high ground to look down on other civilizations.  Each one has done terrible things in the past.  Acceptance and understanding are what will prevent past travesties from being repeated.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Much of the modern legal systems in both Germany and Japan still contains elements that were dictated to them by the Allies after WWII .
They did not choose this viewpoint entirely of their own accord , but accepted it as part of the peace agreements.Any serious student of history sees their can be no moral high ground to look down on other civilizations .
Each one has done terrible things in the past .
Acceptance and understanding are what will prevent past travesties from being repeated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Much of the modern legal systems in both Germany and Japan still contains elements that were dictated to them by the Allies after WWII.
They did not choose this viewpoint entirely of their own accord, but accepted it as part of the peace agreements.Any serious student of history sees their can be no moral high ground to look down on other civilizations.
Each one has done terrible things in the past.
Acceptance and understanding are what will prevent past travesties from being repeated.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118788</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120666</id>
	<title>It Does Not Depict Them As Terrorists</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258362720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>SPOILER ALERT. I got the game yesterday for my bday and I just beat the game today, stayed up all night and day playing it on PC. This has to be one of the best FPS single player games I have ever played (haven't tried the multiplayer yet). But keep in mind, it is entirely fiction. In the end it actually makes a U.S. General look like a backstabbing s.o.b. and the Russians are just reacting in retaliation for something they *think* we did to them. It doesn't actually suggest that the Russian government is terrorist in any way. In this entirely fictional plot, there is a terrorist element similar to the Irish IRA inside of Russia. They cause a blood bath at a Russian airport and leave behind the dead body of a CIA agent in the middle of it to take the fall for it. When in reality the CIA agent was there to infiltrate their terrorist organization and expose them. However, the CIA/USA end up getting blamed as the cause of the bloodbath, so the USA ends up looking like the terrorists in the eyes of the Russian government and people. It is entirely a misunderstanding and as a result an all out war breaks out which involves the USA being invaded by Russian forces, which eventually leads to a nuclear attack.</p><p>I would suggest that the Russians take a closer look at the plot line, so they can realize this isn't in any way suggesting that the government of Russia is evil or terrorist. This entirely *fictional* plot is a series of misunderstandings and betrayals on both sides. If anything, the U.S. should be concerned that it makes our Generals look like self-serving backstabbing scum. However, it is fiction, artistic, amazingly well done and is a perfectly proper use of free speech. There is no slandering going on here, just a fun &amp; exciting yet disturbing depiction of a hypothetical future world. Please, let the Russian gamers play this game, it is just plain fun and one of the best FPS I've had the honor of playing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>SPOILER ALERT .
I got the game yesterday for my bday and I just beat the game today , stayed up all night and day playing it on PC .
This has to be one of the best FPS single player games I have ever played ( have n't tried the multiplayer yet ) .
But keep in mind , it is entirely fiction .
In the end it actually makes a U.S. General look like a backstabbing s.o.b .
and the Russians are just reacting in retaliation for something they * think * we did to them .
It does n't actually suggest that the Russian government is terrorist in any way .
In this entirely fictional plot , there is a terrorist element similar to the Irish IRA inside of Russia .
They cause a blood bath at a Russian airport and leave behind the dead body of a CIA agent in the middle of it to take the fall for it .
When in reality the CIA agent was there to infiltrate their terrorist organization and expose them .
However , the CIA/USA end up getting blamed as the cause of the bloodbath , so the USA ends up looking like the terrorists in the eyes of the Russian government and people .
It is entirely a misunderstanding and as a result an all out war breaks out which involves the USA being invaded by Russian forces , which eventually leads to a nuclear attack.I would suggest that the Russians take a closer look at the plot line , so they can realize this is n't in any way suggesting that the government of Russia is evil or terrorist .
This entirely * fictional * plot is a series of misunderstandings and betrayals on both sides .
If anything , the U.S. should be concerned that it makes our Generals look like self-serving backstabbing scum .
However , it is fiction , artistic , amazingly well done and is a perfectly proper use of free speech .
There is no slandering going on here , just a fun &amp; exciting yet disturbing depiction of a hypothetical future world .
Please , let the Russian gamers play this game , it is just plain fun and one of the best FPS I 've had the honor of playing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SPOILER ALERT.
I got the game yesterday for my bday and I just beat the game today, stayed up all night and day playing it on PC.
This has to be one of the best FPS single player games I have ever played (haven't tried the multiplayer yet).
But keep in mind, it is entirely fiction.
In the end it actually makes a U.S. General look like a backstabbing s.o.b.
and the Russians are just reacting in retaliation for something they *think* we did to them.
It doesn't actually suggest that the Russian government is terrorist in any way.
In this entirely fictional plot, there is a terrorist element similar to the Irish IRA inside of Russia.
They cause a blood bath at a Russian airport and leave behind the dead body of a CIA agent in the middle of it to take the fall for it.
When in reality the CIA agent was there to infiltrate their terrorist organization and expose them.
However, the CIA/USA end up getting blamed as the cause of the bloodbath, so the USA ends up looking like the terrorists in the eyes of the Russian government and people.
It is entirely a misunderstanding and as a result an all out war breaks out which involves the USA being invaded by Russian forces, which eventually leads to a nuclear attack.I would suggest that the Russians take a closer look at the plot line, so they can realize this isn't in any way suggesting that the government of Russia is evil or terrorist.
This entirely *fictional* plot is a series of misunderstandings and betrayals on both sides.
If anything, the U.S. should be concerned that it makes our Generals look like self-serving backstabbing scum.
However, it is fiction, artistic, amazingly well done and is a perfectly proper use of free speech.
There is no slandering going on here, just a fun &amp; exciting yet disturbing depiction of a hypothetical future world.
Please, let the Russian gamers play this game, it is just plain fun and one of the best FPS I've had the honor of playing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30122256</id>
	<title>Re:Not following</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1258368600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And I think that Cameo with Ben Stiller was a little over the top.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I think that Cameo with Ben Stiller was a little over the top .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I think that Cameo with Ben Stiller was a little over the top.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119644</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30125164</id>
	<title>The cast of badguys is official</title>
	<author>dilvish\_the\_damned</author>
	<datestamp>1258386180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it will be zombies, aliens and rednecks from here on out. When we discover aliens, it will end up being alien zombie rednecks. In any case rednecks will always be OK to shoot at as long as they are zombies and so long as they are not pregnant with anything other than alien zombie babies.</p><p>Its really pretty strait forward put any other way.</p><p>Wait, I forgot about demons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it will be zombies , aliens and rednecks from here on out .
When we discover aliens , it will end up being alien zombie rednecks .
In any case rednecks will always be OK to shoot at as long as they are zombies and so long as they are not pregnant with anything other than alien zombie babies.Its really pretty strait forward put any other way.Wait , I forgot about demons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it will be zombies, aliens and rednecks from here on out.
When we discover aliens, it will end up being alien zombie rednecks.
In any case rednecks will always be OK to shoot at as long as they are zombies and so long as they are not pregnant with anything other than alien zombie babies.Its really pretty strait forward put any other way.Wait, I forgot about demons.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118476</id>
	<title>Sad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258398960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's sad and pathetic how some countries have such thin skins.  It must be so awful to be a major nuclear power and yet be so terrified of any kind of real or imagined insult.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's sad and pathetic how some countries have such thin skins .
It must be so awful to be a major nuclear power and yet be so terrified of any kind of real or imagined insult .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's sad and pathetic how some countries have such thin skins.
It must be so awful to be a major nuclear power and yet be so terrified of any kind of real or imagined insult.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30124940</id>
	<title>If you play the game through...</title>
	<author>malv</author>
	<datestamp>1258384080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>SPOILERS:

-You will find that a corrupt US general is responsible for triggering the conflict and is the main antagonist of the story.
-The Russians are merely reacting to a perceived false-flag terrorist attack perpetrated by the US.
-You will be killing American soldiers at the end of the game.
-Not a single individual in that game could be classified as a hero.</htmltext>
<tokenext>SPOILERS : -You will find that a corrupt US general is responsible for triggering the conflict and is the main antagonist of the story .
-The Russians are merely reacting to a perceived false-flag terrorist attack perpetrated by the US .
-You will be killing American soldiers at the end of the game .
-Not a single individual in that game could be classified as a hero .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SPOILERS:

-You will find that a corrupt US general is responsible for triggering the conflict and is the main antagonist of the story.
-The Russians are merely reacting to a perceived false-flag terrorist attack perpetrated by the US.
-You will be killing American soldiers at the end of the game.
-Not a single individual in that game could be classified as a hero.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120280</id>
	<title>Hypocrisy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258404480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First of all, I'm Russian so feel free to disregard my words and call me an ignorant enemy of liberty. Now, for the comment</p><p>Sure, the recall of the game is overreacting and completely ineffective since most players will just go buy the English version of the game on Steam. However, I find it really unsettling that everybody here is criticizing Russia for censorship. Many people in the comments have already said that such criticism is hypocritical because in the US would do the same. There has never been a game released in the US (or Europe for that matter) where Americans are portrayed as the villains and were such a game made, it would be pulled from the shelves pretty quickly - if not the government, then some patriot group or overly sensitive player would sue the developer and\or publisher. And what's the best rebuttal that the opponents of this could come up with here? "It's never happened so you can't say it's true". I'm convinced that all of you know precisely what is wrong with this rebuttal and are simply unwilling to admit it.</p><p>Cheers,<br>ANonymous Coward</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First of all , I 'm Russian so feel free to disregard my words and call me an ignorant enemy of liberty .
Now , for the commentSure , the recall of the game is overreacting and completely ineffective since most players will just go buy the English version of the game on Steam .
However , I find it really unsettling that everybody here is criticizing Russia for censorship .
Many people in the comments have already said that such criticism is hypocritical because in the US would do the same .
There has never been a game released in the US ( or Europe for that matter ) where Americans are portrayed as the villains and were such a game made , it would be pulled from the shelves pretty quickly - if not the government , then some patriot group or overly sensitive player would sue the developer and \ or publisher .
And what 's the best rebuttal that the opponents of this could come up with here ?
" It 's never happened so you ca n't say it 's true " .
I 'm convinced that all of you know precisely what is wrong with this rebuttal and are simply unwilling to admit it.Cheers,ANonymous Coward</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First of all, I'm Russian so feel free to disregard my words and call me an ignorant enemy of liberty.
Now, for the commentSure, the recall of the game is overreacting and completely ineffective since most players will just go buy the English version of the game on Steam.
However, I find it really unsettling that everybody here is criticizing Russia for censorship.
Many people in the comments have already said that such criticism is hypocritical because in the US would do the same.
There has never been a game released in the US (or Europe for that matter) where Americans are portrayed as the villains and were such a game made, it would be pulled from the shelves pretty quickly - if not the government, then some patriot group or overly sensitive player would sue the developer and\or publisher.
And what's the best rebuttal that the opponents of this could come up with here?
"It's never happened so you can't say it's true".
I'm convinced that all of you know precisely what is wrong with this rebuttal and are simply unwilling to admit it.Cheers,ANonymous Coward</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30124070</id>
	<title>Re:Not following</title>
	<author>indiechild</author>
	<datestamp>1258377180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A Call of Duty game being critical of the US government, are you for real? You must be smoking something good...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A Call of Duty game being critical of the US government , are you for real ?
You must be smoking something good.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A Call of Duty game being critical of the US government, are you for real?
You must be smoking something good...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119644</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119172</id>
	<title>Re:Swastika's are a legal issue.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258401120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Its actually illegal to display swatika's in public in Germany and Austria.</p></div><p>That's put a bit too simple.</p><p>Swastikas (as in the Nazi flag) are illegal in Germany (as being a "propaganda item for an anti-constitutional organization"), but there are quite some exceptions.<br>Basically, the use is OK if it serves the purpose of arts, science, education, research, or reports on current or historic events. So you commonly see it on TV, in the cinema, on the cover of and inside countless books...</p><p>Selling games apparently is not considered to be part of that exception (it is legal to own the Wolfenstein game version which includes swastikas, you are not allowed to sell them, though).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its actually illegal to display swatika 's in public in Germany and Austria.That 's put a bit too simple.Swastikas ( as in the Nazi flag ) are illegal in Germany ( as being a " propaganda item for an anti-constitutional organization " ) , but there are quite some exceptions.Basically , the use is OK if it serves the purpose of arts , science , education , research , or reports on current or historic events .
So you commonly see it on TV , in the cinema , on the cover of and inside countless books...Selling games apparently is not considered to be part of that exception ( it is legal to own the Wolfenstein game version which includes swastikas , you are not allowed to sell them , though ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its actually illegal to display swatika's in public in Germany and Austria.That's put a bit too simple.Swastikas (as in the Nazi flag) are illegal in Germany (as being a "propaganda item for an anti-constitutional organization"), but there are quite some exceptions.Basically, the use is OK if it serves the purpose of arts, science, education, research, or reports on current or historic events.
So you commonly see it on TV, in the cinema, on the cover of and inside countless books...Selling games apparently is not considered to be part of that exception (it is legal to own the Wolfenstein game version which includes swastikas, you are not allowed to sell them, though).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118490</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30122018</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>Sephollyon</author>
	<datestamp>1258367880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The genocide of Native Americans was covered extensively throughout every stage of my public education. Maybe your school just sucks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The genocide of Native Americans was covered extensively throughout every stage of my public education .
Maybe your school just sucks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The genocide of Native Americans was covered extensively throughout every stage of my public education.
Maybe your school just sucks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30121544</id>
	<title>Re:Swastika's are a legal issue.</title>
	<author>bckrispi</author>
	<datestamp>1258366440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>But should they be? What if the Nazi party had used the leter 'N' as it's symbol, should the letter be banned in Germany?</p></div></blockquote><p>

Banned, no.  But any use of the letter as a symbol of the Nazi regime would be <i>verboten</i>.  A friend in mine had a band in Germany.  The font used for the letter "S" in their name was somewhat similar to the "lightning bolt" <i>sigil</i> rune worn by members of the SS.  The German police became interested in this and actually had a detective interview the band members.  When it was apparent that my friend and his bandmates had absolutely no National-Socialist agenda, the cops left them alone.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But should they be ?
What if the Nazi party had used the leter 'N ' as it 's symbol , should the letter be banned in Germany ?
Banned , no .
But any use of the letter as a symbol of the Nazi regime would be verboten .
A friend in mine had a band in Germany .
The font used for the letter " S " in their name was somewhat similar to the " lightning bolt " sigil rune worn by members of the SS .
The German police became interested in this and actually had a detective interview the band members .
When it was apparent that my friend and his bandmates had absolutely no National-Socialist agenda , the cops left them alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But should they be?
What if the Nazi party had used the leter 'N' as it's symbol, should the letter be banned in Germany?
Banned, no.
But any use of the letter as a symbol of the Nazi regime would be verboten.
A friend in mine had a band in Germany.
The font used for the letter "S" in their name was somewhat similar to the "lightning bolt" sigil rune worn by members of the SS.
The German police became interested in this and actually had a detective interview the band members.
When it was apparent that my friend and his bandmates had absolutely no National-Socialist agenda, the cops left them alone.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30122846</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>CptPicard</author>
	<datestamp>1258371060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm Finnish so I certainly do not sympathize with Stalin, but there are two issues with that.. I don't think he genuinely felt like USSR was strong enough to take Germany on (remember, offensives are much more militarily expensive propositions) around 1939-40 (hey, even Finland gave Red Army trouble), and there is the fact that to get to Germany he indeed would have had to roll over the countries in between.</p><p>Modern-day Russian historical revisionists are actually trying to push the point that Stalin just "had to" conquer his side of Molotov-Ribbentropp Pact to get some more defense in depth...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm Finnish so I certainly do not sympathize with Stalin , but there are two issues with that.. I do n't think he genuinely felt like USSR was strong enough to take Germany on ( remember , offensives are much more militarily expensive propositions ) around 1939-40 ( hey , even Finland gave Red Army trouble ) , and there is the fact that to get to Germany he indeed would have had to roll over the countries in between.Modern-day Russian historical revisionists are actually trying to push the point that Stalin just " had to " conquer his side of Molotov-Ribbentropp Pact to get some more defense in depth.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm Finnish so I certainly do not sympathize with Stalin, but there are two issues with that.. I don't think he genuinely felt like USSR was strong enough to take Germany on (remember, offensives are much more militarily expensive propositions) around 1939-40 (hey, even Finland gave Red Army trouble), and there is the fact that to get to Germany he indeed would have had to roll over the countries in between.Modern-day Russian historical revisionists are actually trying to push the point that Stalin just "had to" conquer his side of Molotov-Ribbentropp Pact to get some more defense in depth...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119696</id>
	<title>Does anyone else find the G.I. Joe archetype...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258402740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>tiresome in video games? I think it's silly to take offense to the fact that video games usually portray the American G.I. Joe hero archetype as the player character. That's simply what sells games because the U.S. is such a huge market. Russia is a convenient adversary because of the extensive black market for weapons; it's possible to write a paper-thin plot without any effort if you center it on Russian terrorists.</p><p>Personally though, I find that the standard American hero portrayal is just boring. It's been done too often. The first Call of Duty did a decent job covering all the ally forces, in fact, the Russian campaign was quite good for that one and I thought that it was a fair portrayal. Some other games do a good job of exploring other factions but not many. I think that it's about time that the video game industry expanded it's cultural inspirations just to avoid doing the same bloody thing over and over. I believe that there is a market for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>tiresome in video games ?
I think it 's silly to take offense to the fact that video games usually portray the American G.I .
Joe hero archetype as the player character .
That 's simply what sells games because the U.S. is such a huge market .
Russia is a convenient adversary because of the extensive black market for weapons ; it 's possible to write a paper-thin plot without any effort if you center it on Russian terrorists.Personally though , I find that the standard American hero portrayal is just boring .
It 's been done too often .
The first Call of Duty did a decent job covering all the ally forces , in fact , the Russian campaign was quite good for that one and I thought that it was a fair portrayal .
Some other games do a good job of exploring other factions but not many .
I think that it 's about time that the video game industry expanded it 's cultural inspirations just to avoid doing the same bloody thing over and over .
I believe that there is a market for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>tiresome in video games?
I think it's silly to take offense to the fact that video games usually portray the American G.I.
Joe hero archetype as the player character.
That's simply what sells games because the U.S. is such a huge market.
Russia is a convenient adversary because of the extensive black market for weapons; it's possible to write a paper-thin plot without any effort if you center it on Russian terrorists.Personally though, I find that the standard American hero portrayal is just boring.
It's been done too often.
The first Call of Duty did a decent job covering all the ally forces, in fact, the Russian campaign was quite good for that one and I thought that it was a fair portrayal.
Some other games do a good job of exploring other factions but not many.
I think that it's about time that the video game industry expanded it's cultural inspirations just to avoid doing the same bloody thing over and over.
I believe that there is a market for it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30122764</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258370580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your view is overly simplistic.  See this for example:</p><p>http://www.sras.org/foreign\_ministry\_ussr\_forced\_to\_pact\_with\_germany<br>http://02varvara.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/russian-foreign-intelligence-service-declassifies-munich-agreement-papers/</p><p>Had the British and French not sold out Chechoslovakia, the war would have never happen.</p><p>It does not hurt us to be at least respectful to 27 million Russians who perished in the war.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your view is overly simplistic .
See this for example : http : //www.sras.org/foreign \ _ministry \ _ussr \ _forced \ _to \ _pact \ _with \ _germanyhttp : //02varvara.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/russian-foreign-intelligence-service-declassifies-munich-agreement-papers/Had the British and French not sold out Chechoslovakia , the war would have never happen.It does not hurt us to be at least respectful to 27 million Russians who perished in the war .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your view is overly simplistic.
See this for example:http://www.sras.org/foreign\_ministry\_ussr\_forced\_to\_pact\_with\_germanyhttp://02varvara.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/russian-foreign-intelligence-service-declassifies-munich-agreement-papers/Had the British and French not sold out Chechoslovakia, the war would have never happen.It does not hurt us to be at least respectful to 27 million Russians who perished in the war.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119796</id>
	<title>And in this summary...</title>
	<author>UbuntuniX</author>
	<datestamp>1258402980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I overly think the word overly is the only overly used card.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I overly think the word overly is the only overly used card .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I overly think the word overly is the only overly used card.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30129286</id>
	<title>Re:Censorship is BAD, m'kay?</title>
	<author>Cytotoxic</author>
	<datestamp>1258475400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sorry you have to deal with the negative stereotypes.  There's also positive Colombian stereotypes too - being from south Florida I can tell you that the girls from Columbia are universally HOT!  Ok, maybe only the ones that come to the US are that hot, but the one's I've met on South Beach have been stunning.  And they tend to run in packs of 4-6 supermodel-hot ladies all from Columbia.  It's like a lazy susan of hotness!  So there's your positive stereotype<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)
<p>
Actually, one of my neighbors is from Columbia.  Her father is a big-time judge in Colombia.  Nice guy too.  He got his job when his predecessor was assassinated, presumably by drug dealers.  So I guess there could be a reason for stereotypes, even if they aren't universally applicable.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry you have to deal with the negative stereotypes .
There 's also positive Colombian stereotypes too - being from south Florida I can tell you that the girls from Columbia are universally HOT !
Ok , maybe only the ones that come to the US are that hot , but the one 's I 've met on South Beach have been stunning .
And they tend to run in packs of 4-6 supermodel-hot ladies all from Columbia .
It 's like a lazy susan of hotness !
So there 's your positive stereotype : ) Actually , one of my neighbors is from Columbia .
Her father is a big-time judge in Colombia .
Nice guy too .
He got his job when his predecessor was assassinated , presumably by drug dealers .
So I guess there could be a reason for stereotypes , even if they are n't universally applicable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry you have to deal with the negative stereotypes.
There's also positive Colombian stereotypes too - being from south Florida I can tell you that the girls from Columbia are universally HOT!
Ok, maybe only the ones that come to the US are that hot, but the one's I've met on South Beach have been stunning.
And they tend to run in packs of 4-6 supermodel-hot ladies all from Columbia.
It's like a lazy susan of hotness!
So there's your positive stereotype :)

Actually, one of my neighbors is from Columbia.
Her father is a big-time judge in Colombia.
Nice guy too.
He got his job when his predecessor was assassinated, presumably by drug dealers.
So I guess there could be a reason for stereotypes, even if they aren't universally applicable.
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118802</id>
	<title>Re:Sad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258400040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Image is much more powerful than nukes (that you can't use anyway) these days, The first step to going to war with somebody is to deionise them, then make it clear that your soldiers are just doing a job while theirs enjoy killing, if the general public don't buy that, then when you drop nukes you'll be tried as a war criminal! PR is a much more powerful weapon than a nuke.</p><p>But hey your just a stupid fat american so you wouldn't understand that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Image is much more powerful than nukes ( that you ca n't use anyway ) these days , The first step to going to war with somebody is to deionise them , then make it clear that your soldiers are just doing a job while theirs enjoy killing , if the general public do n't buy that , then when you drop nukes you 'll be tried as a war criminal !
PR is a much more powerful weapon than a nuke.But hey your just a stupid fat american so you would n't understand that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Image is much more powerful than nukes (that you can't use anyway) these days, The first step to going to war with somebody is to deionise them, then make it clear that your soldiers are just doing a job while theirs enjoy killing, if the general public don't buy that, then when you drop nukes you'll be tried as a war criminal!
PR is a much more powerful weapon than a nuke.But hey your just a stupid fat american so you wouldn't understand that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30121912</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258367580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The American what?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The American what ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The American what?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30123062</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>DaleCooper82</author>
	<datestamp>1258372020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Beyond that, one of the chief reasons that Germany was initially so successful was because of Stalin's purges of the Army in the 1930s had eliminated a good deal of talent in the Red Army.</p></div><p>True, on top of that they had <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov&ndash;Ribbentrop\_Pact" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">bilateral treaty</a> [wikipedia.org] not to attack each other and Stalin was thinking everything was cool.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Beyond that , one of the chief reasons that Germany was initially so successful was because of Stalin 's purges of the Army in the 1930s had eliminated a good deal of talent in the Red Army.True , on top of that they had bilateral treaty [ wikipedia.org ] not to attack each other and Stalin was thinking everything was cool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Beyond that, one of the chief reasons that Germany was initially so successful was because of Stalin's purges of the Army in the 1930s had eliminated a good deal of talent in the Red Army.True, on top of that they had bilateral treaty [wikipedia.org] not to attack each other and Stalin was thinking everything was cool.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119352</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>ChienAndalu</author>
	<datestamp>1258401540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>While I confess I've never even visited Germany before, I had a teacher who did a while ago.  I remember him telling us the Germans had a culture of denial, when it came to the WWII Nazi era.  History textbooks would completely gloss over that part of history with only the vaguest mention of Hitler and his ambitions.  At first, he tried to discuss and question it with people there, but he said it was almost like running into a brick wall.  People would practically tell him to quiet down, because "we don't talk about that here anymore".</p><p>If that's accurate, then it goes a LONG way towards understanding why they'd ban a game like Wolfenstein, and why they're so adamant about banning sales of Nazi era items on eBay, etc. etc.</p></div><p>Are you trolling? You are spreading some serious misinformation here.</p><p>We have several Holocaust memorial days, there is probably a documentary on the Third Reich and World War Two once week on the TV channel. About a third of history education in school is dedicated to the Third Reich. I think a trip to a concentration camp is even mandatory for school classes.</p><p>The display of Nazi symbols is banned (with certain exceptions) not because of denial, but to fight right-wing extremists. And like every government, our government is being stupid and bans Nazi symbols even if they aren't being used by right-wing extremists but by ID software in Wolfenstein. We have a  "department for youth protection", which is something like Jack Thompsons wet dream, which does all the censorship. German gamers <em>hate</em> it when their games are being censored, so don't confuse "what the German government does" with "what all German people think is good" like in the thread about the two murderers.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>While I confess I 've never even visited Germany before , I had a teacher who did a while ago .
I remember him telling us the Germans had a culture of denial , when it came to the WWII Nazi era .
History textbooks would completely gloss over that part of history with only the vaguest mention of Hitler and his ambitions .
At first , he tried to discuss and question it with people there , but he said it was almost like running into a brick wall .
People would practically tell him to quiet down , because " we do n't talk about that here anymore " .If that 's accurate , then it goes a LONG way towards understanding why they 'd ban a game like Wolfenstein , and why they 're so adamant about banning sales of Nazi era items on eBay , etc .
etc.Are you trolling ?
You are spreading some serious misinformation here.We have several Holocaust memorial days , there is probably a documentary on the Third Reich and World War Two once week on the TV channel .
About a third of history education in school is dedicated to the Third Reich .
I think a trip to a concentration camp is even mandatory for school classes.The display of Nazi symbols is banned ( with certain exceptions ) not because of denial , but to fight right-wing extremists .
And like every government , our government is being stupid and bans Nazi symbols even if they are n't being used by right-wing extremists but by ID software in Wolfenstein .
We have a " department for youth protection " , which is something like Jack Thompsons wet dream , which does all the censorship .
German gamers hate it when their games are being censored , so do n't confuse " what the German government does " with " what all German people think is good " like in the thread about the two murderers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I confess I've never even visited Germany before, I had a teacher who did a while ago.
I remember him telling us the Germans had a culture of denial, when it came to the WWII Nazi era.
History textbooks would completely gloss over that part of history with only the vaguest mention of Hitler and his ambitions.
At first, he tried to discuss and question it with people there, but he said it was almost like running into a brick wall.
People would practically tell him to quiet down, because "we don't talk about that here anymore".If that's accurate, then it goes a LONG way towards understanding why they'd ban a game like Wolfenstein, and why they're so adamant about banning sales of Nazi era items on eBay, etc.
etc.Are you trolling?
You are spreading some serious misinformation here.We have several Holocaust memorial days, there is probably a documentary on the Third Reich and World War Two once week on the TV channel.
About a third of history education in school is dedicated to the Third Reich.
I think a trip to a concentration camp is even mandatory for school classes.The display of Nazi symbols is banned (with certain exceptions) not because of denial, but to fight right-wing extremists.
And like every government, our government is being stupid and bans Nazi symbols even if they aren't being used by right-wing extremists but by ID software in Wolfenstein.
We have a  "department for youth protection", which is something like Jack Thompsons wet dream, which does all the censorship.
German gamers hate it when their games are being censored, so don't confuse "what the German government does" with "what all German people think is good" like in the thread about the two murderers.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119212</id>
	<title>Here we go</title>
	<author>Itadakimasu</author>
	<datestamp>1258401180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Capitalist America, you ban the game.</p><p>In Soviet Russia, game bans YOU!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Capitalist America , you ban the game.In Soviet Russia , game bans YOU !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Capitalist America, you ban the game.In Soviet Russia, game bans YOU!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120018</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>blind biker</author>
	<datestamp>1258403640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And let's not forget that Russia was more than happy to divide Poland with the Nazis.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And let 's not forget that Russia was more than happy to divide Poland with the Nazis .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And let's not forget that Russia was more than happy to divide Poland with the Nazis.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120374</id>
	<title>Re:yeah i think</title>
	<author>theArtificial</author>
	<datestamp>1258404780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why the outcry over fiction? Does this mean any <em>fictional</em> books involving Russia are subject too? Why isn't there an outcry over movies with fictional Russian villains?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why the outcry over fiction ?
Does this mean any fictional books involving Russia are subject too ?
Why is n't there an outcry over movies with fictional Russian villains ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why the outcry over fiction?
Does this mean any fictional books involving Russia are subject too?
Why isn't there an outcry over movies with fictional Russian villains?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118572</id>
	<title>Not all about the feelings.</title>
	<author>meglon</author>
	<datestamp>1258399260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is a slight difference in the two.  The Wolfenstein recall in Germany had little to do with cultural sensitivity, and a lot more to do with the fact that in Germany it is illegal to perform a Hitler salute, wear a Nazi uniform or display the swastika, all of these being good for up to three years in prison.
<br> <br>
Given that, it's probably not unreasonable to think that some people in a given culture might find being demonized for a game not to their liking.  Make a game of the early white settlers murdering millions of native american indians, and you'd probably piss off the indians and the poor rednecks who were never taught about it before they dropped out of school.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a slight difference in the two .
The Wolfenstein recall in Germany had little to do with cultural sensitivity , and a lot more to do with the fact that in Germany it is illegal to perform a Hitler salute , wear a Nazi uniform or display the swastika , all of these being good for up to three years in prison .
Given that , it 's probably not unreasonable to think that some people in a given culture might find being demonized for a game not to their liking .
Make a game of the early white settlers murdering millions of native american indians , and you 'd probably piss off the indians and the poor rednecks who were never taught about it before they dropped out of school .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a slight difference in the two.
The Wolfenstein recall in Germany had little to do with cultural sensitivity, and a lot more to do with the fact that in Germany it is illegal to perform a Hitler salute, wear a Nazi uniform or display the swastika, all of these being good for up to three years in prison.
Given that, it's probably not unreasonable to think that some people in a given culture might find being demonized for a game not to their liking.
Make a game of the early white settlers murdering millions of native american indians, and you'd probably piss off the indians and the poor rednecks who were never taught about it before they dropped out of school.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119452</id>
	<title>Absolute reasonable action by the Russian Gov't</title>
	<author>elloGov</author>
	<datestamp>1258401960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Considering the ridiculous amount of hours the players will spend playing this game, these fictional scenarios are bound to cross boundaries with reality in the minds of avid gamers. Russia has a valid concern.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering the ridiculous amount of hours the players will spend playing this game , these fictional scenarios are bound to cross boundaries with reality in the minds of avid gamers .
Russia has a valid concern .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering the ridiculous amount of hours the players will spend playing this game, these fictional scenarios are bound to cross boundaries with reality in the minds of avid gamers.
Russia has a valid concern.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119644</id>
	<title>Not following</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258402560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>The game was supposed to draw parallels to Afghanistan without being that obvious (imagine your country being invaded all because of the acts of one person/small group of people). Its clearly criticism against he US government.<br> <br>

Oh well, the Russians aren't missing much. The plot was quite frankly kind of stupid, like it was written by Michael Bay. The snowmobiles/speedboats move at 150 mph too and don't feel even remotely realistic.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The game was supposed to draw parallels to Afghanistan without being that obvious ( imagine your country being invaded all because of the acts of one person/small group of people ) .
Its clearly criticism against he US government .
Oh well , the Russians are n't missing much .
The plot was quite frankly kind of stupid , like it was written by Michael Bay .
The snowmobiles/speedboats move at 150 mph too and do n't feel even remotely realistic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The game was supposed to draw parallels to Afghanistan without being that obvious (imagine your country being invaded all because of the acts of one person/small group of people).
Its clearly criticism against he US government.
Oh well, the Russians aren't missing much.
The plot was quite frankly kind of stupid, like it was written by Michael Bay.
The snowmobiles/speedboats move at 150 mph too and don't feel even remotely realistic.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119734</id>
	<title>In Soviet Russia....</title>
	<author>BetterSense</author>
	<datestamp>1258402800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>In Soviet Russia, game ban you!</htmltext>
<tokenext>In Soviet Russia , game ban you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Soviet Russia, game ban you!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120252</id>
	<title>Re:Swastika's are a legal issue.</title>
	<author>eltaco</author>
	<datestamp>1258404420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually some letter-combinations are in fact banned:<br>
SS (Schutzstaffel), SA (Sturmabteilung), AH (Adolf Hitler), HH, 88 (Heil Hitler), NSDAP and others. Obviously, youre not going to get charged for scribbling them on some paper, but you won't be able to get a personalized number-plate (for instance) with those abbreviations (on that note, the Brits also ban certain number-plates. usually not in connection with the second WW, though.).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually some letter-combinations are in fact banned : SS ( Schutzstaffel ) , SA ( Sturmabteilung ) , AH ( Adolf Hitler ) , HH , 88 ( Heil Hitler ) , NSDAP and others .
Obviously , youre not going to get charged for scribbling them on some paper , but you wo n't be able to get a personalized number-plate ( for instance ) with those abbreviations ( on that note , the Brits also ban certain number-plates .
usually not in connection with the second WW , though .
) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually some letter-combinations are in fact banned:
SS (Schutzstaffel), SA (Sturmabteilung), AH (Adolf Hitler), HH, 88 (Heil Hitler), NSDAP and others.
Obviously, youre not going to get charged for scribbling them on some paper, but you won't be able to get a personalized number-plate (for instance) with those abbreviations (on that note, the Brits also ban certain number-plates.
usually not in connection with the second WW, though.
).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118502</id>
	<title>I just got MW2, and am disappointed.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258399080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm a casual gamer, and me and two other buddies play for an hour 2-4 nights a week.  Its a great way to keep in touch.</p><p>Anyways, here's what I REALLY don't like:<br>* auto-aim across a map.  Takes all the skill out of a good shot.  Zoom.  Fire.  Zoom.  Fire.  Zoom.  Fire.<br>* Works with pistols.  At a 1000 yards.<br>* Disabling party chat on open-gaming.  Now we HAVE to listen to the stupid chatter of the 14 year olds.  We're in our 40s. Good god shut it off.  Yes, I know I can mute all but friends.  And since when can a game disable a console feature? I paid for party chat with my XBL sub!<br>* Can't play co-op mission.<br>* Can't play spec-ops with more than 2 people.  (there's 3 of us, remember?)</p><p>Damn, its SOOO close to being perfect its not even funny.  Amazing how a few minor changes make me wish I hadn't bought it.  Looks like we'll be getting more play time on WaW.  Those last two points SUCK BIG TIME for the 3 of us!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a casual gamer , and me and two other buddies play for an hour 2-4 nights a week .
Its a great way to keep in touch.Anyways , here 's what I REALLY do n't like : * auto-aim across a map .
Takes all the skill out of a good shot .
Zoom. Fire .
Zoom. Fire .
Zoom. Fire .
* Works with pistols .
At a 1000 yards .
* Disabling party chat on open-gaming .
Now we HAVE to listen to the stupid chatter of the 14 year olds .
We 're in our 40s .
Good god shut it off .
Yes , I know I can mute all but friends .
And since when can a game disable a console feature ?
I paid for party chat with my XBL sub !
* Ca n't play co-op mission .
* Ca n't play spec-ops with more than 2 people .
( there 's 3 of us , remember ?
) Damn , its SOOO close to being perfect its not even funny .
Amazing how a few minor changes make me wish I had n't bought it .
Looks like we 'll be getting more play time on WaW .
Those last two points SUCK BIG TIME for the 3 of us !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a casual gamer, and me and two other buddies play for an hour 2-4 nights a week.
Its a great way to keep in touch.Anyways, here's what I REALLY don't like:* auto-aim across a map.
Takes all the skill out of a good shot.
Zoom.  Fire.
Zoom.  Fire.
Zoom.  Fire.
* Works with pistols.
At a 1000 yards.
* Disabling party chat on open-gaming.
Now we HAVE to listen to the stupid chatter of the 14 year olds.
We're in our 40s.
Good god shut it off.
Yes, I know I can mute all but friends.
And since when can a game disable a console feature?
I paid for party chat with my XBL sub!
* Can't play co-op mission.
* Can't play spec-ops with more than 2 people.
(there's 3 of us, remember?
)Damn, its SOOO close to being perfect its not even funny.
Amazing how a few minor changes make me wish I hadn't bought it.
Looks like we'll be getting more play time on WaW.
Those last two points SUCK BIG TIME for the 3 of us!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120118</id>
	<title>SPOILER: Have they played the mission?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258404000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>SPOILER</p><p>Not only that, but the whole airport incident was orchestrated by an American.  Its actually americans that are the bad guys of that whole scene, not Russians at all. The Russians are just the put upon victims.</p><p>Really, if anyone has a case for recall, its americans.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>SPOILERNot only that , but the whole airport incident was orchestrated by an American .
Its actually americans that are the bad guys of that whole scene , not Russians at all .
The Russians are just the put upon victims.Really , if anyone has a case for recall , its americans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SPOILERNot only that, but the whole airport incident was orchestrated by an American.
Its actually americans that are the bad guys of that whole scene, not Russians at all.
The Russians are just the put upon victims.Really, if anyone has a case for recall, its americans.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30130090</id>
	<title>Re:As a Russian</title>
	<author>GatorMan</author>
	<datestamp>1258478520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>On the other hand, I actually have to thank Infinity Ward for MW2, for one simple reason: it's been a while since any American game depicted a proper, honest-to-God Russian invasion of U.S. soil, complete with shelled cute "American Dream" neighborhoods and burning White House, and the overall gloomy atmosphere of verging on defeat. At least it's markedly different from your typical drivel of a U.S. Rambo squad on rampage somewhere in Siberia, taking out Russian soldiers by the thousands. Just as unrealistic, too, but hey, at least you can appreciate how it looks from the other side now. I only wish there was an option to play for the paratroopers in the initial wave<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div><p>Take a look at World in Conflict for PC.
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World\_in\_conflict" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World\_in\_conflict</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>On the other hand , I actually have to thank Infinity Ward for MW2 , for one simple reason : it 's been a while since any American game depicted a proper , honest-to-God Russian invasion of U.S. soil , complete with shelled cute " American Dream " neighborhoods and burning White House , and the overall gloomy atmosphere of verging on defeat .
At least it 's markedly different from your typical drivel of a U.S. Rambo squad on rampage somewhere in Siberia , taking out Russian soldiers by the thousands .
Just as unrealistic , too , but hey , at least you can appreciate how it looks from the other side now .
I only wish there was an option to play for the paratroopers in the initial wave : ) Take a look at World in Conflict for PC .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World \ _in \ _conflict [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the other hand, I actually have to thank Infinity Ward for MW2, for one simple reason: it's been a while since any American game depicted a proper, honest-to-God Russian invasion of U.S. soil, complete with shelled cute "American Dream" neighborhoods and burning White House, and the overall gloomy atmosphere of verging on defeat.
At least it's markedly different from your typical drivel of a U.S. Rambo squad on rampage somewhere in Siberia, taking out Russian soldiers by the thousands.
Just as unrealistic, too, but hey, at least you can appreciate how it looks from the other side now.
I only wish there was an option to play for the paratroopers in the initial wave :)Take a look at World in Conflict for PC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World\_in\_conflict [wikipedia.org]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30128146</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>meringuoid</author>
	<datestamp>1258469040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>our supposed Allies ignored Wilson's plan for a just and fair peace and imposed draconian terms on Germany that set the stage for WW2.</i>

<p>Although, to be fair, we did follow through on his excellent idea of a League of Nations. Unlike some people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>our supposed Allies ignored Wilson 's plan for a just and fair peace and imposed draconian terms on Germany that set the stage for WW2 .
Although , to be fair , we did follow through on his excellent idea of a League of Nations .
Unlike some people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>our supposed Allies ignored Wilson's plan for a just and fair peace and imposed draconian terms on Germany that set the stage for WW2.
Although, to be fair, we did follow through on his excellent idea of a League of Nations.
Unlike some people.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118526</id>
	<title>Not much has changed in Russia since Glasnost</title>
	<author>al0ha</author>
	<datestamp>1258399140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>obviously they still do not have any real concept of freedom of speech.</htmltext>
<tokenext>obviously they still do not have any real concept of freedom of speech .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>obviously they still do not have any real concept of freedom of speech.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120100</id>
	<title>Before we comment on russia</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1258403940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why isn't there a mission if MS flight simulator to crash a plane in a building?
</p><p>Why aren't there carpet bombing missions in MS combat flight simulator over vietnam and cambodja on civilian targets?
</p><p>Why don't you get to kill american troops in America's Army?
</p><p>The US calls other thin skinned when they censor themselves silly about themselves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is n't there a mission if MS flight simulator to crash a plane in a building ?
Why are n't there carpet bombing missions in MS combat flight simulator over vietnam and cambodja on civilian targets ?
Why do n't you get to kill american troops in America 's Army ?
The US calls other thin skinned when they censor themselves silly about themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why isn't there a mission if MS flight simulator to crash a plane in a building?
Why aren't there carpet bombing missions in MS combat flight simulator over vietnam and cambodja on civilian targets?
Why don't you get to kill american troops in America's Army?
The US calls other thin skinned when they censor themselves silly about themselves.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119062</id>
	<title>A mod to correct the portrayal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258400820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In an effort to make the Russians appear less bloody thirsty the new release of the game will have Russian weapons replaced by flowers and instead of running the Russian characters will skip.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In an effort to make the Russians appear less bloody thirsty the new release of the game will have Russian weapons replaced by flowers and instead of running the Russian characters will skip .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In an effort to make the Russians appear less bloody thirsty the new release of the game will have Russian weapons replaced by flowers and instead of running the Russian characters will skip.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119486</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>mewsenews</author>
	<datestamp>1258402020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Of course, the Russians have to take a lot of responsibility for that</p></div></blockquote><p>Please be careful not to blame the Russian people for the failures of their leadership. Especially post-WWII it was clear Stalin was off his rockers, but we should always be grateful for how much blood the Russians shed fighting our common enemy (far, FAR more than we did).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , the Russians have to take a lot of responsibility for thatPlease be careful not to blame the Russian people for the failures of their leadership .
Especially post-WWII it was clear Stalin was off his rockers , but we should always be grateful for how much blood the Russians shed fighting our common enemy ( far , FAR more than we did ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, the Russians have to take a lot of responsibility for thatPlease be careful not to blame the Russian people for the failures of their leadership.
Especially post-WWII it was clear Stalin was off his rockers, but we should always be grateful for how much blood the Russians shed fighting our common enemy (far, FAR more than we did).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118752</id>
	<title>Re:Swastika's are a legal issue.</title>
	<author>MozeeToby</author>
	<datestamp>1258399860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But should they be?  What if the Nazi party had used the leter 'N' as it's symbol, should the letter be banned in Germany?  Don't get me wrong, I understand the reasons for the ban, I just don't think it is wise to say "this, and only this, is illegal".  A)  I gaurantee there are still Nazi's and Neo-Nazis in Germany.  B)  The swastika has symbolic meaning to the Hindu religion.  In other words, you are banning both less than, and more than you wanted to when you created the ban.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But should they be ?
What if the Nazi party had used the leter 'N ' as it 's symbol , should the letter be banned in Germany ?
Do n't get me wrong , I understand the reasons for the ban , I just do n't think it is wise to say " this , and only this , is illegal " .
A ) I gaurantee there are still Nazi 's and Neo-Nazis in Germany .
B ) The swastika has symbolic meaning to the Hindu religion .
In other words , you are banning both less than , and more than you wanted to when you created the ban .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But should they be?
What if the Nazi party had used the leter 'N' as it's symbol, should the letter be banned in Germany?
Don't get me wrong, I understand the reasons for the ban, I just don't think it is wise to say "this, and only this, is illegal".
A)  I gaurantee there are still Nazi's and Neo-Nazis in Germany.
B)  The swastika has symbolic meaning to the Hindu religion.
In other words, you are banning both less than, and more than you wanted to when you created the ban.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30122576</id>
	<title>Re:Boohoo</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258369740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who the fuck modded this a troll? The point of my post, if I may elaborate, is that a fucking AMERICAN GENERAL is behind most of the bad shit that happens in the game...but we bought millions of copies of the game instead of banning it. That's why I didn't go into more detail. But, hell, there are plenty of posts spilling the beans now, so why worry about possible spoilers now?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who the fuck modded this a troll ?
The point of my post , if I may elaborate , is that a fucking AMERICAN GENERAL is behind most of the bad shit that happens in the game...but we bought millions of copies of the game instead of banning it .
That 's why I did n't go into more detail .
But , hell , there are plenty of posts spilling the beans now , so why worry about possible spoilers now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who the fuck modded this a troll?
The point of my post, if I may elaborate, is that a fucking AMERICAN GENERAL is behind most of the bad shit that happens in the game...but we bought millions of copies of the game instead of banning it.
That's why I didn't go into more detail.
But, hell, there are plenty of posts spilling the beans now, so why worry about possible spoilers now?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119768</id>
	<title>I can hear it playing now...</title>
	<author>eXFeLoN</author>
	<datestamp>1258402920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>AMERICA.  FUCK YEAH!

we really do kick that much ass.</htmltext>
<tokenext>AMERICA .
FUCK YEAH !
we really do kick that much ass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AMERICA.
FUCK YEAH!
we really do kick that much ass.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30121332</id>
	<title>Re:Censorship is BAD, m'kay?</title>
	<author>Gilmoure</author>
	<datestamp>1258365420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget how Carmageddon 2 demonized British drivers. Or was it zombies?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget how Carmageddon 2 demonized British drivers .
Or was it zombies ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget how Carmageddon 2 demonized British drivers.
Or was it zombies?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118522</id>
	<title>Truth in Gaming?</title>
	<author>pete-classic</author>
	<datestamp>1258399140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Before you overly criticize the Russian government, there may be some truth to the claim that the game's story line overly demonizes Russians as just terrorists as the Russian site GotPS3.ru alleges.</p></div></blockquote><p>Assuming that it portrays them in an objectively false way, you still have to demonstrate that censorship is a good idea.</p><p>I propose that it's a lousy idea, that games are art, and that inaccuracy isn't a reason to suppress art.</p><p>Consider the Russian government "overly" criticized by me!</p><p>-Peter</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Before you overly criticize the Russian government , there may be some truth to the claim that the game 's story line overly demonizes Russians as just terrorists as the Russian site GotPS3.ru alleges.Assuming that it portrays them in an objectively false way , you still have to demonstrate that censorship is a good idea.I propose that it 's a lousy idea , that games are art , and that inaccuracy is n't a reason to suppress art.Consider the Russian government " overly " criticized by me ! -Peter</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Before you overly criticize the Russian government, there may be some truth to the claim that the game's story line overly demonizes Russians as just terrorists as the Russian site GotPS3.ru alleges.Assuming that it portrays them in an objectively false way, you still have to demonstrate that censorship is a good idea.I propose that it's a lousy idea, that games are art, and that inaccuracy isn't a reason to suppress art.Consider the Russian government "overly" criticized by me!-Peter
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30123274</id>
	<title>Re:Sad</title>
	<author>c6gunner</author>
	<datestamp>1258372920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1.  Comparing comics from the 40's to ones from the 60's is dishonest.<br>2.  It's silly to get offended by stereotypes created that long ago.<br>3.  The controversy you link to isn't regarding the 1960's comics, but rather the celebration of those comics in 2005.  You'd get the same response if the US suddenly started printing stamps featuring Popeye knocking out some Japs.</p><p>In closing, you sir are either intentionally dishonest or a complete twit.  If you would let me know which of those categories you fall into, I would appreciate it.  Thank you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Comparing comics from the 40 's to ones from the 60 's is dishonest.2 .
It 's silly to get offended by stereotypes created that long ago.3 .
The controversy you link to is n't regarding the 1960 's comics , but rather the celebration of those comics in 2005 .
You 'd get the same response if the US suddenly started printing stamps featuring Popeye knocking out some Japs.In closing , you sir are either intentionally dishonest or a complete twit .
If you would let me know which of those categories you fall into , I would appreciate it .
Thank you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Comparing comics from the 40's to ones from the 60's is dishonest.2.
It's silly to get offended by stereotypes created that long ago.3.
The controversy you link to isn't regarding the 1960's comics, but rather the celebration of those comics in 2005.
You'd get the same response if the US suddenly started printing stamps featuring Popeye knocking out some Japs.In closing, you sir are either intentionally dishonest or a complete twit.
If you would let me know which of those categories you fall into, I would appreciate it.
Thank you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119108</id>
	<title>yeah i think</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258400940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>we need to crack down on demonizing countries and people in video games.  as an example, theres a notable portion of the populace that have an extremely difficult time discerning between sean hannity's tangential commentary and REAL news.  What is to stop this portion from being creatively incensed even further to adopt a polarized stance to the rest of the world based on gameplay they forgot is not part of history or even a remotely accurate portrayal?<br> <br>
lets go back to places and people that arent real, so we can be free to form our own opinions without entertainment media driving them to extremes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>we need to crack down on demonizing countries and people in video games .
as an example , theres a notable portion of the populace that have an extremely difficult time discerning between sean hannity 's tangential commentary and REAL news .
What is to stop this portion from being creatively incensed even further to adopt a polarized stance to the rest of the world based on gameplay they forgot is not part of history or even a remotely accurate portrayal ?
lets go back to places and people that arent real , so we can be free to form our own opinions without entertainment media driving them to extremes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>we need to crack down on demonizing countries and people in video games.
as an example, theres a notable portion of the populace that have an extremely difficult time discerning between sean hannity's tangential commentary and REAL news.
What is to stop this portion from being creatively incensed even further to adopt a polarized stance to the rest of the world based on gameplay they forgot is not part of history or even a remotely accurate portrayal?
lets go back to places and people that arent real, so we can be free to form our own opinions without entertainment media driving them to extremes.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120202</id>
	<title>from TFSummary</title>
	<author>jDeepbeep</author>
	<datestamp>1258404240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Is cultural sensitivity becoming an overly played card in the gaming world?</p></div><p>Yes.  Yes it is.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is cultural sensitivity becoming an overly played card in the gaming world ? Yes .
Yes it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Is cultural sensitivity becoming an overly played card in the gaming world?Yes.
Yes it is.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30122334</id>
	<title>Re:Censorship is BAD, m'kay?</title>
	<author>cromar</author>
	<datestamp>1258368900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sure stereotypes can be bad.  The issue here, though, is whether the propogation of such stereotypes is more important than the protection of a person's civil right to free speech and expression in other media.  Certainly if the citizens of Colombia wish their government to protect their image, that is not a bad thing, but one must weigh the consequences of any step toward that goal, just as with anything else.  I doubt you would think it would be acceptable to kill people who tarnish the image of Colombia through words, or to imprison them... what I am saying is that while protecting a nation's and its peoples' image is a worthy goal, there are many more important considerations that it must take back-burner to (in this case the civil rights of the nations citizens).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure stereotypes can be bad .
The issue here , though , is whether the propogation of such stereotypes is more important than the protection of a person 's civil right to free speech and expression in other media .
Certainly if the citizens of Colombia wish their government to protect their image , that is not a bad thing , but one must weigh the consequences of any step toward that goal , just as with anything else .
I doubt you would think it would be acceptable to kill people who tarnish the image of Colombia through words , or to imprison them... what I am saying is that while protecting a nation 's and its peoples ' image is a worthy goal , there are many more important considerations that it must take back-burner to ( in this case the civil rights of the nations citizens ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure stereotypes can be bad.
The issue here, though, is whether the propogation of such stereotypes is more important than the protection of a person's civil right to free speech and expression in other media.
Certainly if the citizens of Colombia wish their government to protect their image, that is not a bad thing, but one must weigh the consequences of any step toward that goal, just as with anything else.
I doubt you would think it would be acceptable to kill people who tarnish the image of Colombia through words, or to imprison them... what I am saying is that while protecting a nation's and its peoples' image is a worthy goal, there are many more important considerations that it must take back-burner to (in this case the civil rights of the nations citizens).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120572</id>
	<title>Re:anti-nazi-nazis</title>
	<author>DavidTC</author>
	<datestamp>1258362300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know who else banned displays of Nazi symbolism?</p><p>
<b>Hitler</b>, that's who.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know who else banned displays of Nazi symbolism ?
Hitler , that 's who .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know who else banned displays of Nazi symbolism?
Hitler, that's who.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120720</id>
	<title>Re:They Couldn't See this Coming?</title>
	<author>tsstahl</author>
	<datestamp>1258362900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Doable, but a support nightmare.  Release it as a community game.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Doable , but a support nightmare .
Release it as a community game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doable, but a support nightmare.
Release it as a community game.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30123610</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>zyzko</author>
	<datestamp>1258374540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From the same article - read the headline "Post-war commentary regarding the motives of Stalin and Hitler", as a Finn I'd like to point out that our situation was quite troubled throughout the WW2, ranging from being "sold to soviets" to being an ally of Nazi Germany (thought not not succesfully invaded by either of two in any point, and after the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation\_War" title="wikipedia.org"> Continuation War</a> [wikipedia.org] there was an aftermatch agains retrieving Germans in Lapland (which was a requirement of the peace treaty with the Soviets) - and this contributed partly to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finlandization" title="wikipedia.org"> Finlandization</a> [wikipedia.org] later on.</p><p>While there is no big symphaty to Russians still among the older people in Finland because of the two wars the latter can be (in a way, how much is depending on who you ask) described as a war of an agression from Finlands part with the support of the Nazi Germany.</p><p>So overall, Russians did a great job at stopping Hitler (many times at a gunpoint from theri own lines) but the politics involved especially between Hitler and Stalni regarding Finland and Baltic countries are very interesing and still open to interreption. And the different outcome of the war has affected both Finland and Baltic countries up till today, as close neighbours as for an example Finland and Estonia are they both have a very different set of skeletons in their closets and relationships to Russia are still not an easy thing - even compared to the cold war betweeen the US and USSR. The history is very interesting and hopefully we can learn from it - and to bring this just a little closer to slashdot - a videogame should not be seen as a part of politics, yeah, it can raise issues but if me must discuss those issues through videogames we can shut down the UN and play the game instead...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From the same article - read the headline " Post-war commentary regarding the motives of Stalin and Hitler " , as a Finn I 'd like to point out that our situation was quite troubled throughout the WW2 , ranging from being " sold to soviets " to being an ally of Nazi Germany ( thought not not succesfully invaded by either of two in any point , and after the Continuation War [ wikipedia.org ] there was an aftermatch agains retrieving Germans in Lapland ( which was a requirement of the peace treaty with the Soviets ) - and this contributed partly to Finlandization [ wikipedia.org ] later on.While there is no big symphaty to Russians still among the older people in Finland because of the two wars the latter can be ( in a way , how much is depending on who you ask ) described as a war of an agression from Finlands part with the support of the Nazi Germany.So overall , Russians did a great job at stopping Hitler ( many times at a gunpoint from theri own lines ) but the politics involved especially between Hitler and Stalni regarding Finland and Baltic countries are very interesing and still open to interreption .
And the different outcome of the war has affected both Finland and Baltic countries up till today , as close neighbours as for an example Finland and Estonia are they both have a very different set of skeletons in their closets and relationships to Russia are still not an easy thing - even compared to the cold war betweeen the US and USSR .
The history is very interesting and hopefully we can learn from it - and to bring this just a little closer to slashdot - a videogame should not be seen as a part of politics , yeah , it can raise issues but if me must discuss those issues through videogames we can shut down the UN and play the game instead.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the same article - read the headline "Post-war commentary regarding the motives of Stalin and Hitler", as a Finn I'd like to point out that our situation was quite troubled throughout the WW2, ranging from being "sold to soviets" to being an ally of Nazi Germany (thought not not succesfully invaded by either of two in any point, and after the  Continuation War [wikipedia.org] there was an aftermatch agains retrieving Germans in Lapland (which was a requirement of the peace treaty with the Soviets) - and this contributed partly to  Finlandization [wikipedia.org] later on.While there is no big symphaty to Russians still among the older people in Finland because of the two wars the latter can be (in a way, how much is depending on who you ask) described as a war of an agression from Finlands part with the support of the Nazi Germany.So overall, Russians did a great job at stopping Hitler (many times at a gunpoint from theri own lines) but the politics involved especially between Hitler and Stalni regarding Finland and Baltic countries are very interesing and still open to interreption.
And the different outcome of the war has affected both Finland and Baltic countries up till today, as close neighbours as for an example Finland and Estonia are they both have a very different set of skeletons in their closets and relationships to Russia are still not an easy thing - even compared to the cold war betweeen the US and USSR.
The history is very interesting and hopefully we can learn from it - and to bring this just a little closer to slashdot - a videogame should not be seen as a part of politics, yeah, it can raise issues but if me must discuss those issues through videogames we can shut down the UN and play the game instead...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119922</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous Struct</author>
	<datestamp>1258403280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not like we don't have a culture of denial here in the US.  We wiped out the American Indians pretty remorselessly.  That's pretty close to genocide, but it doesn't get taught that way in our schools.  Every nation tries to overlook the terrible things its done in the past.  People and countries are pretty much all the same, wherever you go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not like we do n't have a culture of denial here in the US .
We wiped out the American Indians pretty remorselessly .
That 's pretty close to genocide , but it does n't get taught that way in our schools .
Every nation tries to overlook the terrible things its done in the past .
People and countries are pretty much all the same , wherever you go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not like we don't have a culture of denial here in the US.
We wiped out the American Indians pretty remorselessly.
That's pretty close to genocide, but it doesn't get taught that way in our schools.
Every nation tries to overlook the terrible things its done in the past.
People and countries are pretty much all the same, wherever you go.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30124702</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258381680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Depicting U.S. government as an omnipotent evil monstrosity is actually favored by the politicians. It makes them seem competent in the eyes of the public.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Depicting U.S. government as an omnipotent evil monstrosity is actually favored by the politicians .
It makes them seem competent in the eyes of the public .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depicting U.S. government as an omnipotent evil monstrosity is actually favored by the politicians.
It makes them seem competent in the eyes of the public.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118462</id>
	<title>Censorship is BAD, m'kay?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258398900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Before you overly criticize the Russian government, there may be some truth to the claim that the game's story line overly demonizes Russians</p><p>Oh, I guess that makes it okay, then. The Russian government has every right to make up your mind for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Before you overly criticize the Russian government , there may be some truth to the claim that the game 's story line overly demonizes RussiansOh , I guess that makes it okay , then .
The Russian government has every right to make up your mind for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Before you overly criticize the Russian government, there may be some truth to the claim that the game's story line overly demonizes RussiansOh, I guess that makes it okay, then.
The Russian government has every right to make up your mind for you.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118942</id>
	<title>Thin skins are not the problem; terrorism is</title>
	<author>tetromino</author>
	<datestamp>1258400460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem Russia's Ministry of Internal Affairs had with the mission is not with how the Russian villain is portrayed (although that probably didn't help the game get a positive reception), but with the fact that the mission is about killing innocent Russian civilians. It does not matter whether the villain is Russian or French or American or Martian - killing civilians at an airport is, according, to a Ministry spokesman, "propaganda of terrorism" and hence illegal.</p><p>See <a href="http://www.gotps3.ru/article/call\_of\_duty\_modern\_warfare\_2\_zapretjat\_v\_rossii/" title="gotps3.ru">http://www.gotps3.ru/article/call\_of\_duty\_modern\_warfare\_2\_zapretjat\_v\_rossii/</a> [gotps3.ru] for more details.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem Russia 's Ministry of Internal Affairs had with the mission is not with how the Russian villain is portrayed ( although that probably did n't help the game get a positive reception ) , but with the fact that the mission is about killing innocent Russian civilians .
It does not matter whether the villain is Russian or French or American or Martian - killing civilians at an airport is , according , to a Ministry spokesman , " propaganda of terrorism " and hence illegal.See http : //www.gotps3.ru/article/call \ _of \ _duty \ _modern \ _warfare \ _2 \ _zapretjat \ _v \ _rossii/ [ gotps3.ru ] for more details .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem Russia's Ministry of Internal Affairs had with the mission is not with how the Russian villain is portrayed (although that probably didn't help the game get a positive reception), but with the fact that the mission is about killing innocent Russian civilians.
It does not matter whether the villain is Russian or French or American or Martian - killing civilians at an airport is, according, to a Ministry spokesman, "propaganda of terrorism" and hence illegal.See http://www.gotps3.ru/article/call\_of\_duty\_modern\_warfare\_2\_zapretjat\_v\_rossii/ [gotps3.ru] for more details.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30121430</id>
	<title>Re:Not following</title>
	<author>cptnapalm</author>
	<datestamp>1258365840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The game was supposed to draw parallels to Afghanistan"</p><p>If that is the case then it does a piss poor job of it, which isn't too surprising because the plot, as you said, is pretty stupid.  It is the leading candidate for my 2009 Most Vastly Overrated Game of the Year.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The game was supposed to draw parallels to Afghanistan " If that is the case then it does a piss poor job of it , which is n't too surprising because the plot , as you said , is pretty stupid .
It is the leading candidate for my 2009 Most Vastly Overrated Game of the Year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The game was supposed to draw parallels to Afghanistan"If that is the case then it does a piss poor job of it, which isn't too surprising because the plot, as you said, is pretty stupid.
It is the leading candidate for my 2009 Most Vastly Overrated Game of the Year.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30123168</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>emilper</author>
	<datestamp>1258372440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Had they joined forces with the Allies in 1939</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... when, in fact, they were fighting the Japanese in Mongolia: the first large scale confrontation of the war, and won by the Soviets; guess who was in charge there<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... hint: same person that was in charge at Stalingrad, and he employed the same tactics: give way in the center, then press a bit to keep the opponent busy there, but aim the main thrust at the flanks. That the Germans, with all their superior staff and military, did not think it's interesting to keep troops in reserve, was a bonus.  Funny thing is, B&#233;la Kun was beaten using the exactly the same tactics in 1919, not to speak of the manner in which a certain general from Carthage kicked Roman ass on one occasion (google for Cannae).</p></div></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Had they joined forces with the Allies in 1939 ... when , in fact , they were fighting the Japanese in Mongolia : the first large scale confrontation of the war , and won by the Soviets ; guess who was in charge there ... hint : same person that was in charge at Stalingrad , and he employed the same tactics : give way in the center , then press a bit to keep the opponent busy there , but aim the main thrust at the flanks .
That the Germans , with all their superior staff and military , did not think it 's interesting to keep troops in reserve , was a bonus .
Funny thing is , B   la Kun was beaten using the exactly the same tactics in 1919 , not to speak of the manner in which a certain general from Carthage kicked Roman ass on one occasion ( google for Cannae ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Had they joined forces with the Allies in 1939 ... when, in fact, they were fighting the Japanese in Mongolia: the first large scale confrontation of the war, and won by the Soviets; guess who was in charge there ... hint: same person that was in charge at Stalingrad, and he employed the same tactics: give way in the center, then press a bit to keep the opponent busy there, but aim the main thrust at the flanks.
That the Germans, with all their superior staff and military, did not think it's interesting to keep troops in reserve, was a bonus.
Funny thing is, Béla Kun was beaten using the exactly the same tactics in 1919, not to speak of the manner in which a certain general from Carthage kicked Roman ass on one occasion (google for Cannae).
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118564</id>
	<title>Boohoo</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258399260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately, a proper retort to the Russian oversensitivity gives away key plot points from the game. Sadly, I can't say more. Suffice it to say that their hand-wringing is baseless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , a proper retort to the Russian oversensitivity gives away key plot points from the game .
Sadly , I ca n't say more .
Suffice it to say that their hand-wringing is baseless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, a proper retort to the Russian oversensitivity gives away key plot points from the game.
Sadly, I can't say more.
Suffice it to say that their hand-wringing is baseless.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30121558</id>
	<title>I think this is self-censorship</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258366500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you want to sell the game, you'd probably do that kind of thing (cutting the mission in question). Why not try to sell Hiroshima bombing simulator to Japan? Will we ever see 9/11 mission in H.A.W.X.?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want to sell the game , you 'd probably do that kind of thing ( cutting the mission in question ) .
Why not try to sell Hiroshima bombing simulator to Japan ?
Will we ever see 9/11 mission in H.A.W.X .
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want to sell the game, you'd probably do that kind of thing (cutting the mission in question).
Why not try to sell Hiroshima bombing simulator to Japan?
Will we ever see 9/11 mission in H.A.W.X.
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119182</id>
	<title>It doesn't say why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258401120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The article isn't specific on whether the infamous airport scene is being removed because of its portrayal of Russia, or whether it's being censored because it's an unpleasant part of the game.  Most other countries have had uproar about this scene and I'd expect to see it refused classification in some places (e.g. in Australia where Left 4 Dead 2 recently encountered problems).  A national classification body refusing to allow a game to go on sale does, effectively, constitute the government disapproving of something - but it's a very different situation to central government stepping in and banning something directly for political reasons.  Maybe this is happening behind the scenes but the article *doesn't say*.</p><p>It's certainly suggested that the Russian gaming public weren't all overjoyed to see the portrayal of their country in the game.  That's hardly surprising, though - I expect most gamers from other big markets such as Europe, the US and Japan would also be quite easily offended if their unpleasant past was dredged up.  People don't like to think of their country ever being the villains and yet pretty much every country in the world has been villainous in the past, often surprisingly recently.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The article is n't specific on whether the infamous airport scene is being removed because of its portrayal of Russia , or whether it 's being censored because it 's an unpleasant part of the game .
Most other countries have had uproar about this scene and I 'd expect to see it refused classification in some places ( e.g .
in Australia where Left 4 Dead 2 recently encountered problems ) .
A national classification body refusing to allow a game to go on sale does , effectively , constitute the government disapproving of something - but it 's a very different situation to central government stepping in and banning something directly for political reasons .
Maybe this is happening behind the scenes but the article * does n't say * .It 's certainly suggested that the Russian gaming public were n't all overjoyed to see the portrayal of their country in the game .
That 's hardly surprising , though - I expect most gamers from other big markets such as Europe , the US and Japan would also be quite easily offended if their unpleasant past was dredged up .
People do n't like to think of their country ever being the villains and yet pretty much every country in the world has been villainous in the past , often surprisingly recently .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article isn't specific on whether the infamous airport scene is being removed because of its portrayal of Russia, or whether it's being censored because it's an unpleasant part of the game.
Most other countries have had uproar about this scene and I'd expect to see it refused classification in some places (e.g.
in Australia where Left 4 Dead 2 recently encountered problems).
A national classification body refusing to allow a game to go on sale does, effectively, constitute the government disapproving of something - but it's a very different situation to central government stepping in and banning something directly for political reasons.
Maybe this is happening behind the scenes but the article *doesn't say*.It's certainly suggested that the Russian gaming public weren't all overjoyed to see the portrayal of their country in the game.
That's hardly surprising, though - I expect most gamers from other big markets such as Europe, the US and Japan would also be quite easily offended if their unpleasant past was dredged up.
People don't like to think of their country ever being the villains and yet pretty much every country in the world has been villainous in the past, often surprisingly recently.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118738</id>
	<title>While they're at it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258399800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...the Russian government should probably pull all the Red Alert titles from the shelves too. Using FMV to portray actors with terrible Russian accents is an affront on everything the Russian people hold dear.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...the Russian government should probably pull all the Red Alert titles from the shelves too .
Using FMV to portray actors with terrible Russian accents is an affront on everything the Russian people hold dear .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...the Russian government should probably pull all the Red Alert titles from the shelves too.
Using FMV to portray actors with terrible Russian accents is an affront on everything the Russian people hold dear.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119592</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>Shakrai</author>
	<datestamp>1258402380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>but we should always be grateful for how much blood the Russians shed fighting our common enemy (far, FAR more than we did).</p></div><p>You mean the common enemy that they <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov\%E2\%80\%93Ribbentrop\_Pact" title="wikipedia.org">cut a deal</a> [wikipedia.org] with and allowed to conquer Western Europe without so much as firing a shot?  Heck, it's worse than that -- they invaded several innocent and neutral countries (Finland, the Baltic States) while Hitler was enjoying his free hand in the West.
</p><p>If the Russians had allied with the Western Allies in 1939 Germany would have been crushed and the Great Patriotic War would never have happened.  Let's try not to forget that.....</p></div>
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<tokenext>but we should always be grateful for how much blood the Russians shed fighting our common enemy ( far , FAR more than we did ) .You mean the common enemy that they cut a deal [ wikipedia.org ] with and allowed to conquer Western Europe without so much as firing a shot ?
Heck , it 's worse than that -- they invaded several innocent and neutral countries ( Finland , the Baltic States ) while Hitler was enjoying his free hand in the West .
If the Russians had allied with the Western Allies in 1939 Germany would have been crushed and the Great Patriotic War would never have happened .
Let 's try not to forget that.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but we should always be grateful for how much blood the Russians shed fighting our common enemy (far, FAR more than we did).You mean the common enemy that they cut a deal [wikipedia.org] with and allowed to conquer Western Europe without so much as firing a shot?
Heck, it's worse than that -- they invaded several innocent and neutral countries (Finland, the Baltic States) while Hitler was enjoying his free hand in the West.
If the Russians had allied with the Western Allies in 1939 Germany would have been crushed and the Great Patriotic War would never have happened.
Let's try not to forget that.....
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118588</id>
	<title>Have they played the mission?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258399320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>In 'No Russian', you play as an American CIA agent, and you, as an AMERICAN agent, lay round after round into the innocent populace, alongside the Russian antagonist.  I think the even larger message Infinity Ward sends with this mission is the atrocious things the American government is willing to do for the sake of 'National Security'. <br> <br>
Does anyone else see the hilarity in this? Not to mention their foreshadowing of American soldiers torturing an informant via electrocution! Each side of the geopolitical spectrum gets demonized in their own right. <br> <br>
But hey, lets just hate on the game that shows the gritty reality of the world.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In 'No Russian ' , you play as an American CIA agent , and you , as an AMERICAN agent , lay round after round into the innocent populace , alongside the Russian antagonist .
I think the even larger message Infinity Ward sends with this mission is the atrocious things the American government is willing to do for the sake of 'National Security' .
Does anyone else see the hilarity in this ?
Not to mention their foreshadowing of American soldiers torturing an informant via electrocution !
Each side of the geopolitical spectrum gets demonized in their own right .
But hey , lets just hate on the game that shows the gritty reality of the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In 'No Russian', you play as an American CIA agent, and you, as an AMERICAN agent, lay round after round into the innocent populace, alongside the Russian antagonist.
I think the even larger message Infinity Ward sends with this mission is the atrocious things the American government is willing to do for the sake of 'National Security'.
Does anyone else see the hilarity in this?
Not to mention their foreshadowing of American soldiers torturing an informant via electrocution!
Each side of the geopolitical spectrum gets demonized in their own right.
But hey, lets just hate on the game that shows the gritty reality of the world.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30123844</id>
	<title>Well...</title>
	<author>okmijnuhb</author>
	<datestamp>1258375860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There often is a sort of cartoonish view by America of the rest of the world.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There often is a sort of cartoonish view by America of the rest of the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There often is a sort of cartoonish view by America of the rest of the world.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119520</id>
	<title>Re:anti-nazi-nazis</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258402140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I call Godwin</p><p>Oh wait...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I call GodwinOh wait.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I call GodwinOh wait...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30122842</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>emilper</author>
	<datestamp>1258371060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Stalin's purges of the Army in the 1930s had eliminated a good deal of talent in the Red Army</p></div><p>yeah, like that guy, what's his name<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Tucha...something, that believed the an army does not need reserves<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... the Poles love that talented genius<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-) ; or the dumb asses that lost Hungary while facing the outgunned and outnumbered Rumanian army in 1919; or the former mahnovists (sincere anarchists), Socialist Revolutionaries (oh, those indeed loved discipline and good order<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... even more than they loved the chain of command, rank insignia and infantry formations ). Yeah, big loss<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Joke aside, probably the Nazis were helped a bit by having one million more soldiers in the field, and knowing the day the war will start.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Stalin 's purges of the Army in the 1930s had eliminated a good deal of talent in the Red Armyyeah , like that guy , what 's his name ... Tucha...something , that believed the an army does not need reserves ... the Poles love that talented genius : - ) ; or the dumb asses that lost Hungary while facing the outgunned and outnumbered Rumanian army in 1919 ; or the former mahnovists ( sincere anarchists ) , Socialist Revolutionaries ( oh , those indeed loved discipline and good order ... even more than they loved the chain of command , rank insignia and infantry formations ) .
Yeah , big loss ...Joke aside , probably the Nazis were helped a bit by having one million more soldiers in the field , and knowing the day the war will start .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stalin's purges of the Army in the 1930s had eliminated a good deal of talent in the Red Armyyeah, like that guy, what's his name ... Tucha...something, that believed the an army does not need reserves ... the Poles love that talented genius :-) ; or the dumb asses that lost Hungary while facing the outgunned and outnumbered Rumanian army in 1919; or the former mahnovists (sincere anarchists), Socialist Revolutionaries (oh, those indeed loved discipline and good order ... even more than they loved the chain of command, rank insignia and infantry formations ).
Yeah, big loss ...Joke aside, probably the Nazis were helped a bit by having one million more soldiers in the field, and knowing the day the war will start.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30122362</id>
	<title>Re:It Does Not Depict Them As Terrorists</title>
	<author>Naturalis Philosopho</author>
	<datestamp>1258369020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did you really write "misunderstanding"? WTF? The plot allows that the U.S. was quite willing to sacrifice an airport full of Russians in order to maintain one operative's cover. Maybe it would have saved more lives had he succeeded, maybe not. But all those people would still be dead. The operative may not have planned the attack, but he sure helped execute it. Undercover or not, he was still culpable for his actions that day. Answer me this... since "only" ~2k people died on 9/11, if one of the Terrorists had been a Russian agent working to infiltrate a cell, and he succeeded and has, directly because of the success of 9/11, saved a million Russians, would the deaths on 9/11 have been worth it or not?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you really write " misunderstanding " ?
WTF ? The plot allows that the U.S. was quite willing to sacrifice an airport full of Russians in order to maintain one operative 's cover .
Maybe it would have saved more lives had he succeeded , maybe not .
But all those people would still be dead .
The operative may not have planned the attack , but he sure helped execute it .
Undercover or not , he was still culpable for his actions that day .
Answer me this... since " only " ~ 2k people died on 9/11 , if one of the Terrorists had been a Russian agent working to infiltrate a cell , and he succeeded and has , directly because of the success of 9/11 , saved a million Russians , would the deaths on 9/11 have been worth it or not ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you really write "misunderstanding"?
WTF? The plot allows that the U.S. was quite willing to sacrifice an airport full of Russians in order to maintain one operative's cover.
Maybe it would have saved more lives had he succeeded, maybe not.
But all those people would still be dead.
The operative may not have planned the attack, but he sure helped execute it.
Undercover or not, he was still culpable for his actions that day.
Answer me this... since "only" ~2k people died on 9/11, if one of the Terrorists had been a Russian agent working to infiltrate a cell, and he succeeded and has, directly because of the success of 9/11, saved a million Russians, would the deaths on 9/11 have been worth it or not?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120692</id>
	<title>Re:Censorship is BAD, m'kay?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258362840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Soviet Russia....oh god I can't do it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Soviet Russia....oh god I ca n't do it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Soviet Russia....oh god I can't do it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30123708</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>Finder83</author>
	<datestamp>1258375080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why shouldn't we have been sitting on our rears eating bon-bons? </p></div><p>Because bon-bons are high in sugar which leads to tooth decay and possibly an increased risk of heart disease as well as other problems such as diabetes.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why should n't we have been sitting on our rears eating bon-bons ?
Because bon-bons are high in sugar which leads to tooth decay and possibly an increased risk of heart disease as well as other problems such as diabetes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why shouldn't we have been sitting on our rears eating bon-bons?
Because bon-bons are high in sugar which leads to tooth decay and possibly an increased risk of heart disease as well as other problems such as diabetes.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30128704</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>dunkelfalke</author>
	<datestamp>1258472520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Russians couldn't ally with the stauch anticommunist western allies in 1939 yet. Especially not after what those allies have done to the Soviet Union in 1918-1920.<br>As for invading several innocent and neutral countries, USSR just tried to get the territories lost in the First World War back (and not even all of them).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Russians could n't ally with the stauch anticommunist western allies in 1939 yet .
Especially not after what those allies have done to the Soviet Union in 1918-1920.As for invading several innocent and neutral countries , USSR just tried to get the territories lost in the First World War back ( and not even all of them ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Russians couldn't ally with the stauch anticommunist western allies in 1939 yet.
Especially not after what those allies have done to the Soviet Union in 1918-1920.As for invading several innocent and neutral countries, USSR just tried to get the territories lost in the First World War back (and not even all of them).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120634</id>
	<title>Not realistic enough</title>
	<author>greatgreygreengreasy</author>
	<datestamp>1258362540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I, on the other hand, don't think it's <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/video/ultra\_realistic\_modern\_warfare" title="theonion.com" rel="nofollow">realistic enough.</a> [theonion.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I , on the other hand , do n't think it 's realistic enough .
[ theonion.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I, on the other hand, don't think it's realistic enough.
[theonion.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118900</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258400340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>Oh boo hoo. Russia has a bad history, it should expect criticism</i> </p><p>While we Americans were sitting on our rears eating bon-bons, more Russians died than in all of America's wars combined fighting Adolph Hitler.  Love them or hate them, forced by circumstances or not, the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.</p></div><p>Just because more Russians died doesn't mean they did more to save Europe from the Nazis. If you know anything about history you would know how poorly they defended themselves. They lost so many people because they didn't even give their soldiers guns! You are 100\% wrong.</p><p>Before you post learn some history.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Oh boo hoo .
Russia has a bad history , it should expect criticism While we Americans were sitting on our rears eating bon-bons , more Russians died than in all of America 's wars combined fighting Adolph Hitler .
Love them or hate them , forced by circumstances or not , the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.Just because more Russians died does n't mean they did more to save Europe from the Nazis .
If you know anything about history you would know how poorly they defended themselves .
They lost so many people because they did n't even give their soldiers guns !
You are 100 \ % wrong.Before you post learn some history .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Oh boo hoo.
Russia has a bad history, it should expect criticism While we Americans were sitting on our rears eating bon-bons, more Russians died than in all of America's wars combined fighting Adolph Hitler.
Love them or hate them, forced by circumstances or not, the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.Just because more Russians died doesn't mean they did more to save Europe from the Nazis.
If you know anything about history you would know how poorly they defended themselves.
They lost so many people because they didn't even give their soldiers guns!
You are 100\% wrong.Before you post learn some history.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119316</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>davek</author>
	<datestamp>1258401420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If that's accurate, then it goes a LONG way towards understanding why they'd ban a game like Wolfenstein, and why they're so adamant about banning sales of Nazi era items on eBay, etc. etc.</p></div><p>I believe that nazi symbols are illegal in Germany, creating the usual ironic effect whenever forms of expression are censored.  That is, the act of censoring expression will bring more attention to that which is being eradicated.</p><p>A quick google turned up this: <a href="http://www.wisegeek.com/is-it-really-illegal-to-display-the-swastika-symbol-in-germany.htm" title="wisegeek.com">http://www.wisegeek.com/is-it-really-illegal-to-display-the-swastika-symbol-in-germany.htm</a> [wisegeek.com]</p></div>
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<tokenext>If that 's accurate , then it goes a LONG way towards understanding why they 'd ban a game like Wolfenstein , and why they 're so adamant about banning sales of Nazi era items on eBay , etc .
etc.I believe that nazi symbols are illegal in Germany , creating the usual ironic effect whenever forms of expression are censored .
That is , the act of censoring expression will bring more attention to that which is being eradicated.A quick google turned up this : http : //www.wisegeek.com/is-it-really-illegal-to-display-the-swastika-symbol-in-germany.htm [ wisegeek.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If that's accurate, then it goes a LONG way towards understanding why they'd ban a game like Wolfenstein, and why they're so adamant about banning sales of Nazi era items on eBay, etc.
etc.I believe that nazi symbols are illegal in Germany, creating the usual ironic effect whenever forms of expression are censored.
That is, the act of censoring expression will bring more attention to that which is being eradicated.A quick google turned up this: http://www.wisegeek.com/is-it-really-illegal-to-display-the-swastika-symbol-in-germany.htm [wisegeek.com]
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30121098</id>
	<title>Error</title>
	<author>F0RR</author>
	<datestamp>1258364520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The game is not recalled. It's just patched, so that there's no airport mission. Well, I don't give a damn about it, actually.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The game is not recalled .
It 's just patched , so that there 's no airport mission .
Well , I do n't give a damn about it , actually .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The game is not recalled.
It's just patched, so that there's no airport mission.
Well, I don't give a damn about it, actually.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119232</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>Shakrai</author>
	<datestamp>1258401240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>While we Americans were sitting on our rears eating bon-bons</p></div><p>Why shouldn't we have been sitting on our rears eating bon-bons?  You think it's the job of the United States to intervene in foreign wars?  We did that in WW1 and got nothing out of it -- our supposed Allies ignored Wilson's plan for a just and fair peace and imposed draconian terms on Germany that set the stage for WW2.  Then they defaulted on their wartime debts to the US.  With that bit of history in mind perhaps it's easier to understand why the US had a strong isolationist sentiment in the 30s?
</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Love them or hate them, forced by circumstances or not, the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.</p></div><p>The Russians made their own bed when they cut a deal with Hitler to slice up Eastern Europe.  Had they joined forces with the Allies in 1939 it's probable that Germany would have been crushed and the Great Patriotic War would never have happened.  The French had long sought an alliance with the Soviet Union to counter the threat of Germany but Stalin wasn't interested.  He wanted the European powers to beat the stuffing out of each other to strengthen his own position.  He even supplied Germany with the raw materials (ranging from grain to steel) required to keep her war machine running.
</p><p>The West owes Russia no debt for her actions in WW2.</p></div>
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<tokenext>While we Americans were sitting on our rears eating bon-bonsWhy should n't we have been sitting on our rears eating bon-bons ?
You think it 's the job of the United States to intervene in foreign wars ?
We did that in WW1 and got nothing out of it -- our supposed Allies ignored Wilson 's plan for a just and fair peace and imposed draconian terms on Germany that set the stage for WW2 .
Then they defaulted on their wartime debts to the US .
With that bit of history in mind perhaps it 's easier to understand why the US had a strong isolationist sentiment in the 30s ?
Love them or hate them , forced by circumstances or not , the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.The Russians made their own bed when they cut a deal with Hitler to slice up Eastern Europe .
Had they joined forces with the Allies in 1939 it 's probable that Germany would have been crushed and the Great Patriotic War would never have happened .
The French had long sought an alliance with the Soviet Union to counter the threat of Germany but Stalin was n't interested .
He wanted the European powers to beat the stuffing out of each other to strengthen his own position .
He even supplied Germany with the raw materials ( ranging from grain to steel ) required to keep her war machine running .
The West owes Russia no debt for her actions in WW2 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While we Americans were sitting on our rears eating bon-bonsWhy shouldn't we have been sitting on our rears eating bon-bons?
You think it's the job of the United States to intervene in foreign wars?
We did that in WW1 and got nothing out of it -- our supposed Allies ignored Wilson's plan for a just and fair peace and imposed draconian terms on Germany that set the stage for WW2.
Then they defaulted on their wartime debts to the US.
With that bit of history in mind perhaps it's easier to understand why the US had a strong isolationist sentiment in the 30s?
Love them or hate them, forced by circumstances or not, the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.The Russians made their own bed when they cut a deal with Hitler to slice up Eastern Europe.
Had they joined forces with the Allies in 1939 it's probable that Germany would have been crushed and the Great Patriotic War would never have happened.
The French had long sought an alliance with the Soviet Union to counter the threat of Germany but Stalin wasn't interested.
He wanted the European powers to beat the stuffing out of each other to strengthen his own position.
He even supplied Germany with the raw materials (ranging from grain to steel) required to keep her war machine running.
The West owes Russia no debt for her actions in WW2.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30123420</id>
	<title>Re:Thin skins are not the problem; terrorism is</title>
	<author>toiletsalmon</author>
	<datestamp>1258373520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't recall them being so concerned about "Russian civilians" in those videos I saw of Russian Police Officers beating the living shit out of so called "criminals". Of course, I'm sure they make certain to use those techniques on ONLY the criminals.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't recall them being so concerned about " Russian civilians " in those videos I saw of Russian Police Officers beating the living shit out of so called " criminals " .
Of course , I 'm sure they make certain to use those techniques on ONLY the criminals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't recall them being so concerned about "Russian civilians" in those videos I saw of Russian Police Officers beating the living shit out of so called "criminals".
Of course, I'm sure they make certain to use those techniques on ONLY the criminals.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120898</id>
	<title>Re:CoD6: Vietnam</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258363680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And the funny thing is: Americans don't understand why other nationalities don't love them unconditionally.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And the funny thing is : Americans do n't understand why other nationalities do n't love them unconditionally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And the funny thing is: Americans don't understand why other nationalities don't love them unconditionally.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120048</id>
	<title>Germany Recall</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258403760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, the Germany recall has nothing to do with being politically correct. There is a law in Germany that forbids the use of the National Socialist Party symbol and any type of Naziism period. If there is a mention of any type of Nazi principles toward government organisations, those people are able to be apprehended by the police. So, nothing new there. It comes down to the laws. If people don't pay attention to the laws they will unfortunately pay the price.</p><p>Does this have anything to do with antiquated thinking and beliefs... totally. Do people have to grow up and realize it is a part of life... sure. But, that is not the issue. The law is no Nazi affiliation or symbolism is allowed in Germany.</p><p>The fact that Infinity Ward decided to "demonize" the Russians or a faction of Russia... that's their own fault. They should have stuck with non-descript or fictitious governments.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , the Germany recall has nothing to do with being politically correct .
There is a law in Germany that forbids the use of the National Socialist Party symbol and any type of Naziism period .
If there is a mention of any type of Nazi principles toward government organisations , those people are able to be apprehended by the police .
So , nothing new there .
It comes down to the laws .
If people do n't pay attention to the laws they will unfortunately pay the price.Does this have anything to do with antiquated thinking and beliefs... totally. Do people have to grow up and realize it is a part of life... sure. But , that is not the issue .
The law is no Nazi affiliation or symbolism is allowed in Germany.The fact that Infinity Ward decided to " demonize " the Russians or a faction of Russia... that 's their own fault .
They should have stuck with non-descript or fictitious governments .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, the Germany recall has nothing to do with being politically correct.
There is a law in Germany that forbids the use of the National Socialist Party symbol and any type of Naziism period.
If there is a mention of any type of Nazi principles toward government organisations, those people are able to be apprehended by the police.
So, nothing new there.
It comes down to the laws.
If people don't pay attention to the laws they will unfortunately pay the price.Does this have anything to do with antiquated thinking and beliefs... totally. Do people have to grow up and realize it is a part of life... sure. But, that is not the issue.
The law is no Nazi affiliation or symbolism is allowed in Germany.The fact that Infinity Ward decided to "demonize" the Russians or a faction of Russia... that's their own fault.
They should have stuck with non-descript or fictitious governments.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118454</id>
	<title>Waaaaahh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258398900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh boo hoo. Russia has a bad history, it should expect criticism</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh boo hoo .
Russia has a bad history , it should expect criticism</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh boo hoo.
Russia has a bad history, it should expect criticism</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30122904</id>
	<title>In Soviet Russia game recalls you</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1258371240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Soviet Russia game recalls you</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Soviet Russia game recalls you</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Soviet Russia game recalls you</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118546</id>
	<title>Not so fast..</title>
	<author>tjstork</author>
	<datestamp>1258399200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Oh boo hoo. Russia has a bad history, it should expect criticism</i></p><p>While we Americans were sitting on our rears eating bon-bons, more Russians died than in all of America's wars combined fighting Adolph Hitler.  Love them or hate them, forced by circumstances or not, the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh boo hoo .
Russia has a bad history , it should expect criticismWhile we Americans were sitting on our rears eating bon-bons , more Russians died than in all of America 's wars combined fighting Adolph Hitler .
Love them or hate them , forced by circumstances or not , the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh boo hoo.
Russia has a bad history, it should expect criticismWhile we Americans were sitting on our rears eating bon-bons, more Russians died than in all of America's wars combined fighting Adolph Hitler.
Love them or hate them, forced by circumstances or not, the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30127248</id>
	<title>Controversial mission aside...</title>
	<author>yourtallness</author>
	<datestamp>1258456440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Excluding the controversial mission (in which by the way I find it kind of hypocrite that you can get away with shooting only for self defense; if I were Makarov and one of my squad members showed less than zealous to participate in the "mission", I'd discipline them right away), there is one more basic question I have regarding war games:</p><p>How does it feel for people to play games where they have to mow down legions of soldiers of their own ethnicity?
How come Russia is upset mainly for the terrorist scene, but I don't see anyone complaining much for having to wipe out wave upon wave of Russian paratroopers?</p><p>Mind you, I'm not questioning the fairness of defending against an aggressor (in a given premise), I'd just like to find out what Germans feel when placed in a position where they have to shoot German soldiers, etc. Is there still fun to be had, or does it feel weird or wrong?</p><p>Having said that, I can only think of Half-Life 1 as an example of US Forces being portrayed as the bad guys, and would certainly like to see games or movies present matters from another viewpoint, for some balance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Excluding the controversial mission ( in which by the way I find it kind of hypocrite that you can get away with shooting only for self defense ; if I were Makarov and one of my squad members showed less than zealous to participate in the " mission " , I 'd discipline them right away ) , there is one more basic question I have regarding war games : How does it feel for people to play games where they have to mow down legions of soldiers of their own ethnicity ?
How come Russia is upset mainly for the terrorist scene , but I do n't see anyone complaining much for having to wipe out wave upon wave of Russian paratroopers ? Mind you , I 'm not questioning the fairness of defending against an aggressor ( in a given premise ) , I 'd just like to find out what Germans feel when placed in a position where they have to shoot German soldiers , etc .
Is there still fun to be had , or does it feel weird or wrong ? Having said that , I can only think of Half-Life 1 as an example of US Forces being portrayed as the bad guys , and would certainly like to see games or movies present matters from another viewpoint , for some balance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Excluding the controversial mission (in which by the way I find it kind of hypocrite that you can get away with shooting only for self defense; if I were Makarov and one of my squad members showed less than zealous to participate in the "mission", I'd discipline them right away), there is one more basic question I have regarding war games:How does it feel for people to play games where they have to mow down legions of soldiers of their own ethnicity?
How come Russia is upset mainly for the terrorist scene, but I don't see anyone complaining much for having to wipe out wave upon wave of Russian paratroopers?Mind you, I'm not questioning the fairness of defending against an aggressor (in a given premise), I'd just like to find out what Germans feel when placed in a position where they have to shoot German soldiers, etc.
Is there still fun to be had, or does it feel weird or wrong?Having said that, I can only think of Half-Life 1 as an example of US Forces being portrayed as the bad guys, and would certainly like to see games or movies present matters from another viewpoint, for some balance.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118532</id>
	<title>Wolfenstein</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258399140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Wolfenstein issue seems very unrelated.  Germany has had for a long time regulations about displaying anything related to the Nazis, and this even effected the removal of the symbols from earlier games bearing the Wolfenstein name.  Bringing it into this argument is just sophisticating the issue that the poster (or the article it read) is trying to raise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Wolfenstein issue seems very unrelated .
Germany has had for a long time regulations about displaying anything related to the Nazis , and this even effected the removal of the symbols from earlier games bearing the Wolfenstein name .
Bringing it into this argument is just sophisticating the issue that the poster ( or the article it read ) is trying to raise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Wolfenstein issue seems very unrelated.
Germany has had for a long time regulations about displaying anything related to the Nazis, and this even effected the removal of the symbols from earlier games bearing the Wolfenstein name.
Bringing it into this argument is just sophisticating the issue that the poster (or the article it read) is trying to raise.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30127028</id>
	<title>Re:Censorship is BAD, m'kay?</title>
	<author>Xest</author>
	<datestamp>1258452300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait, let me get this right, this would be the same Russian government that murdered Alexander Litvinenko who had been granted asylum in a foreign country with radiation poisoning- a rather horrible way to go? Or how about annexing foreign territory in Georgia by carrying out ethnic cleansing and issuing Russian passports to the remaining people there? What about beating and arrest of people who complain about election fraud? or similar treatment of opposition supporters? How about the tens, perhaps now even hundreds of journalists and activists murdered on their soil who dare say a bad word about the government?</p><p>Bwahahahaha, seriously, wait, let me stop laughing a second... the Russian government is worried about looking demonized?</p><p>They should've thought about that before committing a horrific assassination on foreign soil which frankly, is as much a terrorist act as any.</p><p>Maybe their government should.. you know, stop acting like international terrorists, before worrying that a game makes them look that way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait , let me get this right , this would be the same Russian government that murdered Alexander Litvinenko who had been granted asylum in a foreign country with radiation poisoning- a rather horrible way to go ?
Or how about annexing foreign territory in Georgia by carrying out ethnic cleansing and issuing Russian passports to the remaining people there ?
What about beating and arrest of people who complain about election fraud ?
or similar treatment of opposition supporters ?
How about the tens , perhaps now even hundreds of journalists and activists murdered on their soil who dare say a bad word about the government ? Bwahahahaha , seriously , wait , let me stop laughing a second... the Russian government is worried about looking demonized ? They should 've thought about that before committing a horrific assassination on foreign soil which frankly , is as much a terrorist act as any.Maybe their government should.. you know , stop acting like international terrorists , before worrying that a game makes them look that way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait, let me get this right, this would be the same Russian government that murdered Alexander Litvinenko who had been granted asylum in a foreign country with radiation poisoning- a rather horrible way to go?
Or how about annexing foreign territory in Georgia by carrying out ethnic cleansing and issuing Russian passports to the remaining people there?
What about beating and arrest of people who complain about election fraud?
or similar treatment of opposition supporters?
How about the tens, perhaps now even hundreds of journalists and activists murdered on their soil who dare say a bad word about the government?Bwahahahaha, seriously, wait, let me stop laughing a second... the Russian government is worried about looking demonized?They should've thought about that before committing a horrific assassination on foreign soil which frankly, is as much a terrorist act as any.Maybe their government should.. you know, stop acting like international terrorists, before worrying that a game makes them look that way.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30122996</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1258371720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They lost so many people because they didn't even give their soldiers guns!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Before you post learn some history.</p></div><p>I'd like to return your advice back to you, with an added note that Hollywood flicks such as "Enemy at the Gates" are not a good way to learn history.</p><p>Really, did you seriously believe that Russians were stupid enough to order unarmed men to charge a fortified MG encampment? Soviet commanders could be cruel and brutal, but they weren't complete idiots (even for all Stalin's purges).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They lost so many people because they did n't even give their soldiers guns !
... Before you post learn some history.I 'd like to return your advice back to you , with an added note that Hollywood flicks such as " Enemy at the Gates " are not a good way to learn history.Really , did you seriously believe that Russians were stupid enough to order unarmed men to charge a fortified MG encampment ?
Soviet commanders could be cruel and brutal , but they were n't complete idiots ( even for all Stalin 's purges ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They lost so many people because they didn't even give their soldiers guns!
... Before you post learn some history.I'd like to return your advice back to you, with an added note that Hollywood flicks such as "Enemy at the Gates" are not a good way to learn history.Really, did you seriously believe that Russians were stupid enough to order unarmed men to charge a fortified MG encampment?
Soviet commanders could be cruel and brutal, but they weren't complete idiots (even for all Stalin's purges).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120984</id>
	<title>The real question here.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258364040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The real question for me in the Modern Warfare series is why the bad guys are Russian at all.</p><p>Why aren't they the usual terrorist stereotype?  You know - Muslims.</p><p>Probably because instead of a recall they'd be facing death threats like that Cartoonist fellow.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The real question for me in the Modern Warfare series is why the bad guys are Russian at all.Why are n't they the usual terrorist stereotype ?
You know - Muslims.Probably because instead of a recall they 'd be facing death threats like that Cartoonist fellow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The real question for me in the Modern Warfare series is why the bad guys are Russian at all.Why aren't they the usual terrorist stereotype?
You know - Muslims.Probably because instead of a recall they'd be facing death threats like that Cartoonist fellow.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119150</id>
	<title>Rainbow 6 : Tower Records</title>
	<author>royler</author>
	<datestamp>1258401060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>why dont they just make a game where the RIAA are the bad guys?</htmltext>
<tokenext>why dont they just make a game where the RIAA are the bad guys ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why dont they just make a game where the RIAA are the bad guys?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120900</id>
	<title>Re:Censorship is BAD, m'kay?</title>
	<author>Idbar</author>
	<datestamp>1258363680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"The Russian government has every right to make up your mind for you"</i> <br>
How come you're label as insightful? Perhaps the Russian government shouldn't have a right, but certainly not a game that wrongly stereotypes countries.<br> <br>
I am from Colombia, I have to constantly deal with being stereotyped as a drug dealer, and although I learn to take it as a joke, that doesn't make right. I won't miss the chance of correcting people making these kind of mistakes. I'm sorry but I don't like when they depict my country's capital as a tropical forest where everyone wears mustaches (which it's not true), and people believe that's the way it is.<br> <br>If a country doesn't take care of the image of its citizens, who would do it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The Russian government has every right to make up your mind for you " How come you 're label as insightful ?
Perhaps the Russian government should n't have a right , but certainly not a game that wrongly stereotypes countries .
I am from Colombia , I have to constantly deal with being stereotyped as a drug dealer , and although I learn to take it as a joke , that does n't make right .
I wo n't miss the chance of correcting people making these kind of mistakes .
I 'm sorry but I do n't like when they depict my country 's capital as a tropical forest where everyone wears mustaches ( which it 's not true ) , and people believe that 's the way it is .
If a country does n't take care of the image of its citizens , who would do it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The Russian government has every right to make up your mind for you" 
How come you're label as insightful?
Perhaps the Russian government shouldn't have a right, but certainly not a game that wrongly stereotypes countries.
I am from Colombia, I have to constantly deal with being stereotyped as a drug dealer, and although I learn to take it as a joke, that doesn't make right.
I won't miss the chance of correcting people making these kind of mistakes.
I'm sorry but I don't like when they depict my country's capital as a tropical forest where everyone wears mustaches (which it's not true), and people believe that's the way it is.
If a country doesn't take care of the image of its citizens, who would do it?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119410</id>
	<title>Wolfenstein and the "Occult"</title>
	<author>Jeremy Erwin</author>
	<datestamp>1258401780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In <i>Raiders</i>, Major Eaton claims that</p><p><div class="quote"><p>for the last two years the Nazis have had teams of archeologists running around the world looking for all sorts of religious artifacts. Hitler's gone nuts on the subject. He's crazy. He's obsessed with the occult. And right now, apparently, there is some kind of German archeological dig going on in the desert outside Cairo.</p> </div><p>But how true is this claim? Is this perception simply a failure to grapple with the fact that Hitler was not insane, he was not possessed by demons, and simply made a cold blooded choice to slaughter millions?</p><p>Wolfenstein encourages the player to think of Nazis as creatures of myth and masters of the dark arts, rather than as ordinary criminals, capable of making ethical decisions and thus fully culpable for their actions.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In Raiders , Major Eaton claims thatfor the last two years the Nazis have had teams of archeologists running around the world looking for all sorts of religious artifacts .
Hitler 's gone nuts on the subject .
He 's crazy .
He 's obsessed with the occult .
And right now , apparently , there is some kind of German archeological dig going on in the desert outside Cairo .
But how true is this claim ?
Is this perception simply a failure to grapple with the fact that Hitler was not insane , he was not possessed by demons , and simply made a cold blooded choice to slaughter millions ? Wolfenstein encourages the player to think of Nazis as creatures of myth and masters of the dark arts , rather than as ordinary criminals , capable of making ethical decisions and thus fully culpable for their actions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Raiders, Major Eaton claims thatfor the last two years the Nazis have had teams of archeologists running around the world looking for all sorts of religious artifacts.
Hitler's gone nuts on the subject.
He's crazy.
He's obsessed with the occult.
And right now, apparently, there is some kind of German archeological dig going on in the desert outside Cairo.
But how true is this claim?
Is this perception simply a failure to grapple with the fact that Hitler was not insane, he was not possessed by demons, and simply made a cold blooded choice to slaughter millions?Wolfenstein encourages the player to think of Nazis as creatures of myth and masters of the dark arts, rather than as ordinary criminals, capable of making ethical decisions and thus fully culpable for their actions.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119788</id>
	<title>Story sources</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258402980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you trace the the story back it all originates from a forum post on a Russian game site. Despite this, the story has been picked up by the Guardian UK, PC World, Gamespy, to name but a few. Yet not a one of them has done anything to verify the report. How hard is it to call a Russian retailer or "My Gosh!" someone in the gov't. This is just another example of the incestuousness of today's news where the reporter's job entails nothing more than reading newspapers and websites.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you trace the the story back it all originates from a forum post on a Russian game site .
Despite this , the story has been picked up by the Guardian UK , PC World , Gamespy , to name but a few .
Yet not a one of them has done anything to verify the report .
How hard is it to call a Russian retailer or " My Gosh !
" someone in the gov't .
This is just another example of the incestuousness of today 's news where the reporter 's job entails nothing more than reading newspapers and websites .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you trace the the story back it all originates from a forum post on a Russian game site.
Despite this, the story has been picked up by the Guardian UK, PC World, Gamespy, to name but a few.
Yet not a one of them has done anything to verify the report.
How hard is it to call a Russian retailer or "My Gosh!
" someone in the gov't.
This is just another example of the incestuousness of today's news where the reporter's job entails nothing more than reading newspapers and websites.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30129564</id>
	<title>Re:Censorship is BAD, m'kay?</title>
	<author>The-Bus</author>
	<datestamp>1258476300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm Colombian too and am happy to see the name of my country spelled correctly. Too often it's spelled Columbia.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm Colombian too and am happy to see the name of my country spelled correctly .
Too often it 's spelled Columbia .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm Colombian too and am happy to see the name of my country spelled correctly.
Too often it's spelled Columbia.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119274</id>
	<title>They're missing the whole point</title>
	<author>Tetrarchy</author>
	<datestamp>1258401360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The mission is called "No Russian" for a reason.  Without being too much of a spoiler, the title is from the words to you by the terrorist leader at the start of the mission, reminding you not to speak any russian.  Because he plans to blame the attack on outsiders for political gain.  So theres no real implication that the game is portraying Russians in general in a bad light in this mission.

That being said it was one of the more shocking experiences I have ever had in a video game.  There is very little explanation of the mission objective before hand, so when your 'squad' opens fire you are completely confused.  I bet it would make for a psychology case study to see what people do when prevented with this situation.

But anyways, its really an interesting game for the situations they put you in.  Its a lot different from the last one, as you're not shooting at generic arab terrorists for most of the game anymore.  Eventually you really start wondering who's side you're really on or who the good guys are.  I really liked it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The mission is called " No Russian " for a reason .
Without being too much of a spoiler , the title is from the words to you by the terrorist leader at the start of the mission , reminding you not to speak any russian .
Because he plans to blame the attack on outsiders for political gain .
So theres no real implication that the game is portraying Russians in general in a bad light in this mission .
That being said it was one of the more shocking experiences I have ever had in a video game .
There is very little explanation of the mission objective before hand , so when your 'squad ' opens fire you are completely confused .
I bet it would make for a psychology case study to see what people do when prevented with this situation .
But anyways , its really an interesting game for the situations they put you in .
Its a lot different from the last one , as you 're not shooting at generic arab terrorists for most of the game anymore .
Eventually you really start wondering who 's side you 're really on or who the good guys are .
I really liked it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The mission is called "No Russian" for a reason.
Without being too much of a spoiler, the title is from the words to you by the terrorist leader at the start of the mission, reminding you not to speak any russian.
Because he plans to blame the attack on outsiders for political gain.
So theres no real implication that the game is portraying Russians in general in a bad light in this mission.
That being said it was one of the more shocking experiences I have ever had in a video game.
There is very little explanation of the mission objective before hand, so when your 'squad' opens fire you are completely confused.
I bet it would make for a psychology case study to see what people do when prevented with this situation.
But anyways, its really an interesting game for the situations they put you in.
Its a lot different from the last one, as you're not shooting at generic arab terrorists for most of the game anymore.
Eventually you really start wondering who's side you're really on or who the good guys are.
I really liked it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30123892</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>vasko</author>
	<datestamp>1258376280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The Russians made their own bed when they cut a deal with Hitler to slice up Eastern Europe. Had they joined forces with the Allies in 1939 it's probable that Germany would have been crushed and the Great Patriotic War would never have happened.</p></div><p>Yeah, right.

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich\_Agreement" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich\_Agreement</a> [wikipedia.org]
</p><p>
Molotov&ndash;Ribbentrop Pact was signed full year later.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Russians made their own bed when they cut a deal with Hitler to slice up Eastern Europe .
Had they joined forces with the Allies in 1939 it 's probable that Germany would have been crushed and the Great Patriotic War would never have happened.Yeah , right .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich \ _Agreement [ wikipedia.org ] Molotov    Ribbentrop Pact was signed full year later .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Russians made their own bed when they cut a deal with Hitler to slice up Eastern Europe.
Had they joined forces with the Allies in 1939 it's probable that Germany would have been crushed and the Great Patriotic War would never have happened.Yeah, right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich\_Agreement [wikipedia.org]

Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact was signed full year later.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118642</id>
	<title>The big picture...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258399500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>How many sales do software companies even make in Russia? Russia is notorious for hacking, pirates, and spam; not a place where a lot of sales are to be made.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How many sales do software companies even make in Russia ?
Russia is notorious for hacking , pirates , and spam ; not a place where a lot of sales are to be made .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many sales do software companies even make in Russia?
Russia is notorious for hacking, pirates, and spam; not a place where a lot of sales are to be made.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30122752</id>
	<title>Finish the damn game</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258370520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sometimes I wonder if the people leveling criticism at the game have actually completed it at all, or simply weren't paying attention.</p><p>Modern Warfare is mostly critical of... modern warfare.  The ease with which a single deception can lead to mass conflict, the mutual exclusiveness of the extremes of patriotism with morality, the callousness of weighing actions by the "potential" number of lives lost, and the physical and spiritual sacrifice soldiers of all sides are forced to make... the only crime IW committed was bringing the true ethical dimensions of war uncomfortably close to gamers who until now have only exprienced it in the comfort of home, who "recall" war with implanted sentimentality.  No mass conflict unfolds without taking innocent casualties, no one's hands are left clean... not people like Shepherd, nor people like Price.  In fact, they were two sides of the same coin.</p><p>The No Russian stage needed to be in the game, because people NEED to be sickened by war.  This doesn't even come close to the kind of soul-wrenching decisions real soldiers face on the battlefield every day to serve their country.  Most of us can barely take it in a fictional video game.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sometimes I wonder if the people leveling criticism at the game have actually completed it at all , or simply were n't paying attention.Modern Warfare is mostly critical of... modern warfare .
The ease with which a single deception can lead to mass conflict , the mutual exclusiveness of the extremes of patriotism with morality , the callousness of weighing actions by the " potential " number of lives lost , and the physical and spiritual sacrifice soldiers of all sides are forced to make... the only crime IW committed was bringing the true ethical dimensions of war uncomfortably close to gamers who until now have only exprienced it in the comfort of home , who " recall " war with implanted sentimentality .
No mass conflict unfolds without taking innocent casualties , no one 's hands are left clean... not people like Shepherd , nor people like Price .
In fact , they were two sides of the same coin.The No Russian stage needed to be in the game , because people NEED to be sickened by war .
This does n't even come close to the kind of soul-wrenching decisions real soldiers face on the battlefield every day to serve their country .
Most of us can barely take it in a fictional video game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sometimes I wonder if the people leveling criticism at the game have actually completed it at all, or simply weren't paying attention.Modern Warfare is mostly critical of... modern warfare.
The ease with which a single deception can lead to mass conflict, the mutual exclusiveness of the extremes of patriotism with morality, the callousness of weighing actions by the "potential" number of lives lost, and the physical and spiritual sacrifice soldiers of all sides are forced to make... the only crime IW committed was bringing the true ethical dimensions of war uncomfortably close to gamers who until now have only exprienced it in the comfort of home, who "recall" war with implanted sentimentality.
No mass conflict unfolds without taking innocent casualties, no one's hands are left clean... not people like Shepherd, nor people like Price.
In fact, they were two sides of the same coin.The No Russian stage needed to be in the game, because people NEED to be sickened by war.
This doesn't even come close to the kind of soul-wrenching decisions real soldiers face on the battlefield every day to serve their country.
Most of us can barely take it in a fictional video game.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30123564</id>
	<title>As a Russian</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258374360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a Russian, let me share my opinion on this.</p><p>First of all, I'm generally irked by portrayal of Russians in U.S. mass culture, including films and video games, especially action ones. "Hordes of dumb evil rampaging barbarians" is so cliche. You can do better.</p><p>CoD series was never good at it in the past, either - e.g. in CoD5, all Soviet missions seem to emphasize brutality and human waves as much as possible, especially by character dialogue, while American missions seem more focused on "fighting the bad guys". This is clearly evident in two prisoner-taking scenes - in Soviet one, Germans genuinely surrender, but you have to execute them (or have your squad do so), and your only choice is between shooting them and burning them alive. Either way, it's clearly a war crime. In American mission, Japanese fake surrender, and you cannot shoot them until they try to overpower and kill your fellow soldiers restraining them (and then, of course, killing them is perfectly justified). I didn't see much difference in MW2 in that regard. If anything, the first MW was more ambiguous in that regard, since at least you had "good Russians" and "bad Russians"; in MW2, the former kind has apparently rapidly died out again, so we're back to good old stereotypes.</p><p>On the other hand, I actually have to thank Infinity Ward for MW2, for one simple reason: it's been a while since any American game depicted a proper, honest-to-God Russian invasion of U.S. soil, complete with shelled cute "American Dream" neighborhoods and burning White House, and the overall gloomy atmosphere of verging on defeat. At least it's markedly different from your typical drivel of a U.S. Rambo squad on rampage somewhere in Siberia, taking out Russian soldiers by the thousands. Just as unrealistic, too, but hey, at least you can appreciate how it looks from the other side now. I only wish there was an option to play for the paratroopers in the initial wave<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Finally, regardless of my personal likes and dislikes of this and other games touching on the subject at hand, I firmly believe that any kind of political censorship is wrong; and this, especially, is one really stupid reason to ban a game.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a Russian , let me share my opinion on this.First of all , I 'm generally irked by portrayal of Russians in U.S. mass culture , including films and video games , especially action ones .
" Hordes of dumb evil rampaging barbarians " is so cliche .
You can do better.CoD series was never good at it in the past , either - e.g .
in CoD5 , all Soviet missions seem to emphasize brutality and human waves as much as possible , especially by character dialogue , while American missions seem more focused on " fighting the bad guys " .
This is clearly evident in two prisoner-taking scenes - in Soviet one , Germans genuinely surrender , but you have to execute them ( or have your squad do so ) , and your only choice is between shooting them and burning them alive .
Either way , it 's clearly a war crime .
In American mission , Japanese fake surrender , and you can not shoot them until they try to overpower and kill your fellow soldiers restraining them ( and then , of course , killing them is perfectly justified ) .
I did n't see much difference in MW2 in that regard .
If anything , the first MW was more ambiguous in that regard , since at least you had " good Russians " and " bad Russians " ; in MW2 , the former kind has apparently rapidly died out again , so we 're back to good old stereotypes.On the other hand , I actually have to thank Infinity Ward for MW2 , for one simple reason : it 's been a while since any American game depicted a proper , honest-to-God Russian invasion of U.S. soil , complete with shelled cute " American Dream " neighborhoods and burning White House , and the overall gloomy atmosphere of verging on defeat .
At least it 's markedly different from your typical drivel of a U.S. Rambo squad on rampage somewhere in Siberia , taking out Russian soldiers by the thousands .
Just as unrealistic , too , but hey , at least you can appreciate how it looks from the other side now .
I only wish there was an option to play for the paratroopers in the initial wave : ) Finally , regardless of my personal likes and dislikes of this and other games touching on the subject at hand , I firmly believe that any kind of political censorship is wrong ; and this , especially , is one really stupid reason to ban a game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a Russian, let me share my opinion on this.First of all, I'm generally irked by portrayal of Russians in U.S. mass culture, including films and video games, especially action ones.
"Hordes of dumb evil rampaging barbarians" is so cliche.
You can do better.CoD series was never good at it in the past, either - e.g.
in CoD5, all Soviet missions seem to emphasize brutality and human waves as much as possible, especially by character dialogue, while American missions seem more focused on "fighting the bad guys".
This is clearly evident in two prisoner-taking scenes - in Soviet one, Germans genuinely surrender, but you have to execute them (or have your squad do so), and your only choice is between shooting them and burning them alive.
Either way, it's clearly a war crime.
In American mission, Japanese fake surrender, and you cannot shoot them until they try to overpower and kill your fellow soldiers restraining them (and then, of course, killing them is perfectly justified).
I didn't see much difference in MW2 in that regard.
If anything, the first MW was more ambiguous in that regard, since at least you had "good Russians" and "bad Russians"; in MW2, the former kind has apparently rapidly died out again, so we're back to good old stereotypes.On the other hand, I actually have to thank Infinity Ward for MW2, for one simple reason: it's been a while since any American game depicted a proper, honest-to-God Russian invasion of U.S. soil, complete with shelled cute "American Dream" neighborhoods and burning White House, and the overall gloomy atmosphere of verging on defeat.
At least it's markedly different from your typical drivel of a U.S. Rambo squad on rampage somewhere in Siberia, taking out Russian soldiers by the thousands.
Just as unrealistic, too, but hey, at least you can appreciate how it looks from the other side now.
I only wish there was an option to play for the paratroopers in the initial wave :)Finally, regardless of my personal likes and dislikes of this and other games touching on the subject at hand, I firmly believe that any kind of political censorship is wrong; and this, especially, is one really stupid reason to ban a game.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30124976</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>tjstork</author>
	<datestamp>1258384380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The West owes Russia no debt for her actions in WW2.</i></p><p>We don't "owe" the Russians anything, per say.  But to say that the Russians are all bad is a pretty big distortion of history.</p><p>We have to remember that we entered World War II with our own motives as well.  Despite his critics, Roosevelt was no fool, and he very clearly understood the economics that the USA could actually fight and win a two front World War and come out with total dominance of the seas, and with it, an unprecedented period of American dominance that we have well, squandered.  But hey, World War II bought the good life for almost three generations of Americans, brought freedom and a better standard of living for damn near the whole planet overall, and thanks to free trade, it did elevate the overall lifestyle of Americans, even if the consequences of that trade, that the third world would erode American manufacturing and inventiveness, were entirely unforseeable in the racist minds of those long ago policy planners.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The West owes Russia no debt for her actions in WW2.We do n't " owe " the Russians anything , per say .
But to say that the Russians are all bad is a pretty big distortion of history.We have to remember that we entered World War II with our own motives as well .
Despite his critics , Roosevelt was no fool , and he very clearly understood the economics that the USA could actually fight and win a two front World War and come out with total dominance of the seas , and with it , an unprecedented period of American dominance that we have well , squandered .
But hey , World War II bought the good life for almost three generations of Americans , brought freedom and a better standard of living for damn near the whole planet overall , and thanks to free trade , it did elevate the overall lifestyle of Americans , even if the consequences of that trade , that the third world would erode American manufacturing and inventiveness , were entirely unforseeable in the racist minds of those long ago policy planners .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The West owes Russia no debt for her actions in WW2.We don't "owe" the Russians anything, per say.
But to say that the Russians are all bad is a pretty big distortion of history.We have to remember that we entered World War II with our own motives as well.
Despite his critics, Roosevelt was no fool, and he very clearly understood the economics that the USA could actually fight and win a two front World War and come out with total dominance of the seas, and with it, an unprecedented period of American dominance that we have well, squandered.
But hey, World War II bought the good life for almost three generations of Americans, brought freedom and a better standard of living for damn near the whole planet overall, and thanks to free trade, it did elevate the overall lifestyle of Americans, even if the consequences of that trade, that the third world would erode American manufacturing and inventiveness, were entirely unforseeable in the racist minds of those long ago policy planners.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118886</id>
	<title>They Couldn't See this Coming?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258400280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously,</p><p>My fictionally perfect game that will sell WAY more than this title will have country-specific enemies.  Marketed in the U.S?  Russia.  Marketed in Russia?  U.S.  Marketed in India?  Pakistan.  Marketed in Pakistan?  Indians.</p><p>They'd sell more games pandering to country-specific deeply ingrained cultural enemies.  Maybe the game engine doesn't support locales like that though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously,My fictionally perfect game that will sell WAY more than this title will have country-specific enemies .
Marketed in the U.S ?
Russia. Marketed in Russia ?
U.S. Marketed in India ?
Pakistan. Marketed in Pakistan ?
Indians.They 'd sell more games pandering to country-specific deeply ingrained cultural enemies .
Maybe the game engine does n't support locales like that though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously,My fictionally perfect game that will sell WAY more than this title will have country-specific enemies.
Marketed in the U.S?
Russia.  Marketed in Russia?
U.S.  Marketed in India?
Pakistan.  Marketed in Pakistan?
Indians.They'd sell more games pandering to country-specific deeply ingrained cultural enemies.
Maybe the game engine doesn't support locales like that though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30128436</id>
	<title>Re:Not following</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258471200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the game obviously drew a lot from Michael Bay movies<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... two scenes in particular were almost directly from The Rock.  </p><p>One was the fight through a locker-room, complete with a surrounding second floor filled with bad-guys.  Only thing different was you don't pop-up through the drain in the middle.</p><p>The other was the race to the top of "Whiskey Hotel."  There were jets inbound ready to bomb WH to the ground, and to stop them you had to rush to the roof, pop a flare and wave it around in the Nick (cage) of time.</p><p>I'm sure others can chime in with other parts taken almost directly from action movies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the game obviously drew a lot from Michael Bay movies ... two scenes in particular were almost directly from The Rock .
One was the fight through a locker-room , complete with a surrounding second floor filled with bad-guys .
Only thing different was you do n't pop-up through the drain in the middle.The other was the race to the top of " Whiskey Hotel .
" There were jets inbound ready to bomb WH to the ground , and to stop them you had to rush to the roof , pop a flare and wave it around in the Nick ( cage ) of time.I 'm sure others can chime in with other parts taken almost directly from action movies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the game obviously drew a lot from Michael Bay movies ... two scenes in particular were almost directly from The Rock.
One was the fight through a locker-room, complete with a surrounding second floor filled with bad-guys.
Only thing different was you don't pop-up through the drain in the middle.The other was the race to the top of "Whiskey Hotel.
"  There were jets inbound ready to bomb WH to the ground, and to stop them you had to rush to the roof, pop a flare and wave it around in the Nick (cage) of time.I'm sure others can chime in with other parts taken almost directly from action movies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120534</id>
	<title>As American sales will be 1000x more?</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1258362180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think they knew the game wouldn't sell original copies too much in Russia so they basically trolled with that "No Russians" level, predicting this or less would happen.</p><p>Income: PR, "Reds banning American game", Slashdot YRO story etc. It is far more than the game would sell in Russia.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think they knew the game would n't sell original copies too much in Russia so they basically trolled with that " No Russians " level , predicting this or less would happen.Income : PR , " Reds banning American game " , Slashdot YRO story etc .
It is far more than the game would sell in Russia .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think they knew the game wouldn't sell original copies too much in Russia so they basically trolled with that "No Russians" level, predicting this or less would happen.Income: PR, "Reds banning American game", Slashdot YRO story etc.
It is far more than the game would sell in Russia.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119952</id>
	<title>Fat Americans</title>
	<author>dakkon1024</author>
	<datestamp>1258403340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Imagine if Japan release a game where you shot at fat Americans leaving various fast food chains.... oh who am I kidding we would play that too.  Probably while eating sushi.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine if Japan release a game where you shot at fat Americans leaving various fast food chains.... oh who am I kidding we would play that too .
Probably while eating sushi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine if Japan release a game where you shot at fat Americans leaving various fast food chains.... oh who am I kidding we would play that too.
Probably while eating sushi.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119238</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>tjstork</author>
	<datestamp>1258401240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Of course, the Russians have to take a lot of responsibility for that, because right up until the morning of the Nazi invasion they were shipping steel to Nazi Germany.</i></p><p>Dude, we were lending Hitler money. Everybody but France was trying to throw money at Hitler thinking it would avoid a war.  He took the steel, the money and everything else, and bought weapons.  Major jerk.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , the Russians have to take a lot of responsibility for that , because right up until the morning of the Nazi invasion they were shipping steel to Nazi Germany.Dude , we were lending Hitler money .
Everybody but France was trying to throw money at Hitler thinking it would avoid a war .
He took the steel , the money and everything else , and bought weapons .
Major jerk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, the Russians have to take a lot of responsibility for that, because right up until the morning of the Nazi invasion they were shipping steel to Nazi Germany.Dude, we were lending Hitler money.
Everybody but France was trying to throw money at Hitler thinking it would avoid a war.
He took the steel, the money and everything else, and bought weapons.
Major jerk.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118574</id>
	<title>anti-nazi-nazis</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258399260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Not too long ago, Wolfenstein was recalled in Germany for containing Nazi symbols.</p></div><p>Germans are anti-nazi-nazis.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not too long ago , Wolfenstein was recalled in Germany for containing Nazi symbols.Germans are anti-nazi-nazis .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not too long ago, Wolfenstein was recalled in Germany for containing Nazi symbols.Germans are anti-nazi-nazis.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30133592</id>
	<title>Re:Not following</title>
	<author>masterQba</author>
	<datestamp>1258491480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>the snowmobiles/speedboats tipped you off?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)
<br>
for me it was the f15s zipping by two helicopters at arms length or in the same level being airlifted from a 2x2 hole in the roof with metal rods waiting to split you in half... cod never's been a realistic game. if you want (semi)realism play operation flashpoint or something. cod is an action movie and it's great if played like that... way worse than the first modern warfare though. playing it I get the feeling that I've done this all before, ohh so many times. nothing to see here move along.</htmltext>
<tokenext>the snowmobiles/speedboats tipped you off ?
: - ) for me it was the f15s zipping by two helicopters at arms length or in the same level being airlifted from a 2x2 hole in the roof with metal rods waiting to split you in half... cod never 's been a realistic game .
if you want ( semi ) realism play operation flashpoint or something .
cod is an action movie and it 's great if played like that... way worse than the first modern warfare though .
playing it I get the feeling that I 've done this all before , ohh so many times .
nothing to see here move along .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the snowmobiles/speedboats tipped you off?
:-)

for me it was the f15s zipping by two helicopters at arms length or in the same level being airlifted from a 2x2 hole in the roof with metal rods waiting to split you in half... cod never's been a realistic game.
if you want (semi)realism play operation flashpoint or something.
cod is an action movie and it's great if played like that... way worse than the first modern warfare though.
playing it I get the feeling that I've done this all before, ohh so many times.
nothing to see here move along.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30123070</id>
	<title>get your facts right</title>
	<author>Tom</author>
	<datestamp>1258372020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Not too long ago, Wolfenstein was recalled in Germany for containing Nazi symbols."</p></div><p>You should've also read the discussion on that when it was posted, and noticed that a lot of german readers have pointed out that all that goes back to a bundle of laws the the allies, i.e. <b>you americans, most of all</b> forced unto Germany after WW2, before the Federal Republic of Germany was founded.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not too long ago , Wolfenstein was recalled in Germany for containing Nazi symbols .
" You should 've also read the discussion on that when it was posted , and noticed that a lot of german readers have pointed out that all that goes back to a bundle of laws the the allies , i.e .
you americans , most of all forced unto Germany after WW2 , before the Federal Republic of Germany was founded .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not too long ago, Wolfenstein was recalled in Germany for containing Nazi symbols.
"You should've also read the discussion on that when it was posted, and noticed that a lot of german readers have pointed out that all that goes back to a bundle of laws the the allies, i.e.
you americans, most of all forced unto Germany after WW2, before the Federal Republic of Germany was founded.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119122</id>
	<title>Re:Sad</title>
	<author>flabordec</author>
	<datestamp>1258401000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is sad and pathetic that the United States popular culture portrays any foreign culture as a <a href="http://superdickery.com/index.php?option=com\_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=853:the-most-racist-artwork-yet&amp;catid=35:propaganda-index&amp;Itemid=35" title="superdickery.com" rel="nofollow">vulgar</a> [superdickery.com] <a href="http://superdickery.com/index.php?option=com\_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=40:qslap-a-japq&amp;catid=35:propaganda-index&amp;Itemid=35" title="superdickery.com" rel="nofollow">caricature</a> [superdickery.com], but americans feel outrage when a character from 1960's mexican comics <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mem\%C3\%ADn\_Pingu\%C3\%ADn#Controversy" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">does the exact same thing</a> [wikipedia.org].</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is sad and pathetic that the United States popular culture portrays any foreign culture as a vulgar [ superdickery.com ] caricature [ superdickery.com ] , but americans feel outrage when a character from 1960 's mexican comics does the exact same thing [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is sad and pathetic that the United States popular culture portrays any foreign culture as a vulgar [superdickery.com] caricature [superdickery.com], but americans feel outrage when a character from 1960's mexican comics does the exact same thing [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120774</id>
	<title>Re:Sad</title>
	<author>pwfffff</author>
	<datestamp>1258363140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"But hey your just a stupid fat american so you wouldn't understand that."</p><p>So I take it your home country is about to invade America then? If your invasions are as quality as your posts I'm not too worried...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" But hey your just a stupid fat american so you would n't understand that .
" So I take it your home country is about to invade America then ?
If your invasions are as quality as your posts I 'm not too worried.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"But hey your just a stupid fat american so you wouldn't understand that.
"So I take it your home country is about to invade America then?
If your invasions are as quality as your posts I'm not too worried...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30128124</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>TheTurtlesMoves</author>
	<datestamp>1258468800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What the hell are talking about?
<br> <br>
When i am in Germany (or Austria) and having a few beers at the local pub. Brining up the war is something that almost always happens, and we talk about without a big problem. The only person in Denial here is your Teacher. All Germans are taught about the war and the camps.
<br> <br>
Hell last night we worked out that my grandfather was probably shooting at the other guys grandfather and visa versa.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What the hell are talking about ?
When i am in Germany ( or Austria ) and having a few beers at the local pub .
Brining up the war is something that almost always happens , and we talk about without a big problem .
The only person in Denial here is your Teacher .
All Germans are taught about the war and the camps .
Hell last night we worked out that my grandfather was probably shooting at the other guys grandfather and visa versa .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the hell are talking about?
When i am in Germany (or Austria) and having a few beers at the local pub.
Brining up the war is something that almost always happens, and we talk about without a big problem.
The only person in Denial here is your Teacher.
All Germans are taught about the war and the camps.
Hell last night we worked out that my grandfather was probably shooting at the other guys grandfather and visa versa.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30122094</id>
	<title>In communist Russia</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258368060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In communist Russia Modern Warfare 2 recalls Russia.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In communist Russia Modern Warfare 2 recalls Russia .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In communist Russia Modern Warfare 2 recalls Russia.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120770</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>tsstahl</author>
	<datestamp>1258363140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Fighting blind declarations with logic and fact will only get you blacklisted as an agitator.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fighting blind declarations with logic and fact will only get you blacklisted as an agitator .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fighting blind declarations with logic and fact will only get you blacklisted as an agitator.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119478</id>
	<title>Stalin Let Hitler Invade Poland</title>
	<author>geoffrobinson</author>
	<datestamp>1258402020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean those long 5 months? <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov\%E2\%80\%93Ribbentrop\_Pact" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov\%E2\%80\%93Ribbentrop\_Pact</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Seriously, Stalin let Hitler attack Britain &amp; Poland. They were double-crossed. The Soviets did sacrifice a lot, but let's be honest. They were bastards.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean those long 5 months ?
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov \ % E2 \ % 80 \ % 93Ribbentrop \ _Pact [ wikipedia.org ] Seriously , Stalin let Hitler attack Britain &amp; Poland .
They were double-crossed .
The Soviets did sacrifice a lot , but let 's be honest .
They were bastards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean those long 5 months?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov\%E2\%80\%93Ribbentrop\_Pact [wikipedia.org]Seriously, Stalin let Hitler attack Britain &amp; Poland.
They were double-crossed.
The Soviets did sacrifice a lot, but let's be honest.
They were bastards.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120254</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258404420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What part of Germany was your teacher in? The part where they don't speak German at all and which isn't even located inside of Germany?<br>During my time in school, we had 3 non-consecutive semesters of history lessons about Nazi Germany, the whole school went to watch Schindler's Liste, we visited a concentration camp (though I don't remember which one anymore, I have to admit, after the 6th visit to different camps the memories kind of meld into each other - the amount of visits had different reasons, though).<br>There are routinely documentaries on television.</p><p>In essence, it may have been the result of over-saturation. Plus, if your teacher was really that dense that he did not find the history textbooks which are dedicated to the time period of Nazi Germany (which are usually so big that they \_only\_ contain that time period), then I do begin to see why no one wanted to "discuss" the issue with him.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What part of Germany was your teacher in ?
The part where they do n't speak German at all and which is n't even located inside of Germany ? During my time in school , we had 3 non-consecutive semesters of history lessons about Nazi Germany , the whole school went to watch Schindler 's Liste , we visited a concentration camp ( though I do n't remember which one anymore , I have to admit , after the 6th visit to different camps the memories kind of meld into each other - the amount of visits had different reasons , though ) .There are routinely documentaries on television.In essence , it may have been the result of over-saturation .
Plus , if your teacher was really that dense that he did not find the history textbooks which are dedicated to the time period of Nazi Germany ( which are usually so big that they \ _only \ _ contain that time period ) , then I do begin to see why no one wanted to " discuss " the issue with him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What part of Germany was your teacher in?
The part where they don't speak German at all and which isn't even located inside of Germany?During my time in school, we had 3 non-consecutive semesters of history lessons about Nazi Germany, the whole school went to watch Schindler's Liste, we visited a concentration camp (though I don't remember which one anymore, I have to admit, after the 6th visit to different camps the memories kind of meld into each other - the amount of visits had different reasons, though).There are routinely documentaries on television.In essence, it may have been the result of over-saturation.
Plus, if your teacher was really that dense that he did not find the history textbooks which are dedicated to the time period of Nazi Germany (which are usually so big that they \_only\_ contain that time period), then I do begin to see why no one wanted to "discuss" the issue with him.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119146</id>
	<title>Re:Swastika's are a legal issue.</title>
	<author>Sir Codelot</author>
	<datestamp>1258401060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Its actually illegal to display swatika's in public in Germany and Austria.</p></div><p>Here in India, where the Swastika <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Etymology\_and\_alternative\_names" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">originated</a> [wikipedia.org], it denotes good luck.<br>
Heh, I've always wondered what would happen if my ex-colleague visited Germany. Swastika is her name.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Its actually illegal to display swatika 's in public in Germany and Austria.Here in India , where the Swastika originated [ wikipedia.org ] , it denotes good luck .
Heh , I 've always wondered what would happen if my ex-colleague visited Germany .
Swastika is her name .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its actually illegal to display swatika's in public in Germany and Austria.Here in India, where the Swastika originated [wikipedia.org], it denotes good luck.
Heh, I've always wondered what would happen if my ex-colleague visited Germany.
Swastika is her name.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30122226</id>
	<title>Germany and the Swastika(the "Nazi" symbol)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258368480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wolfenstein already was censored like hell by the publisher, but there was one tiny pixel Swastika left one some texture that "caused" the ban of the game in Germany.</p><p>There it is: <a href="http://www.schnittberichte.com/www/SBs/5982811/haken.jpg" title="schnittberichte.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.schnittberichte.com/www/SBs/5982811/haken.jpg</a> [schnittberichte.com] (My very first slashdot attack)</p><p>The german authorities are crazy like shit after stuff like this. It's not even funny in its pathetic way anymore. They even did go after kids that used crossed out Swastikas that where intended to be simbols agains Nazis...</p><p>And please, after reading this do not belive that german authorities do anything agains real Nazis!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wolfenstein already was censored like hell by the publisher , but there was one tiny pixel Swastika left one some texture that " caused " the ban of the game in Germany.There it is : http : //www.schnittberichte.com/www/SBs/5982811/haken.jpg [ schnittberichte.com ] ( My very first slashdot attack ) The german authorities are crazy like shit after stuff like this .
It 's not even funny in its pathetic way anymore .
They even did go after kids that used crossed out Swastikas that where intended to be simbols agains Nazis...And please , after reading this do not belive that german authorities do anything agains real Nazis !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wolfenstein already was censored like hell by the publisher, but there was one tiny pixel Swastika left one some texture that "caused" the ban of the game in Germany.There it is: http://www.schnittberichte.com/www/SBs/5982811/haken.jpg [schnittberichte.com] (My very first slashdot attack)The german authorities are crazy like shit after stuff like this.
It's not even funny in its pathetic way anymore.
They even did go after kids that used crossed out Swastikas that where intended to be simbols agains Nazis...And please, after reading this do not belive that german authorities do anything agains real Nazis!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30121656</id>
	<title>hello</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258366920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Russia make about 80 \% to took down Nazis. just  because about 30 millions of Russian were killed in WW2 it's much bigger than in all other countrys</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Russia make about 80 \ % to took down Nazis .
just because about 30 millions of Russian were killed in WW2 it 's much bigger than in all other countrys</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Russia make about 80 \% to took down Nazis.
just  because about 30 millions of Russian were killed in WW2 it's much bigger than in all other countrys</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30167790</id>
	<title>a Reagan quote</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258648680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Reagan said to Gorbachev "In America, anyone can go to the white house and say to the president, 'Mr. President,I don't like what you are doing with this country'. In Russia, anyone can go to the Kremlin and say to the prime minister,'Mr. Prime Minister, I don't like what the American President is doing with his country'".

now, its the Russian land, so the Russian government can decide what they want. Cant argue much about that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Reagan said to Gorbachev " In America , anyone can go to the white house and say to the president , 'Mr .
President,I do n't like what you are doing with this country' .
In Russia , anyone can go to the Kremlin and say to the prime minister,'Mr .
Prime Minister , I do n't like what the American President is doing with his country ' " .
now , its the Russian land , so the Russian government can decide what they want .
Cant argue much about that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reagan said to Gorbachev "In America, anyone can go to the white house and say to the president, 'Mr.
President,I don't like what you are doing with this country'.
In Russia, anyone can go to the Kremlin and say to the prime minister,'Mr.
Prime Minister, I don't like what the American President is doing with his country'".
now, its the Russian land, so the Russian government can decide what they want.
Cant argue much about that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120550</id>
	<title>Re:Swastika's are a legal issue.</title>
	<author>Yokaze</author>
	<datestamp>1258362180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; not a big fat swastika but some more obscure symbols. [...]<br>&gt; I know I wouldn't stand for it. I recognize the horrors of my own country and we will forever keep things like slavery and repression in general in front and center of our attention -- a mandatory history lesson -- so that we never repeat those mistakes.</p><p>Actually, it was a <a href="http://www.schnittberichte.com/www/SBs/5982811/haken.jpg" title="schnittberichte.com">Swastika</a> [schnittberichte.com].<br>The SS insignia are hardly obscure, especially to Germans, because they learned about those symbols in school in mandatory history lessons, which you so kindly suggested.</p><p>May I point out a certain point of the law, which might have slipped your eye:</p><blockquote><div><p>(3) Subsection (1) shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to further civil enlightenment, to avert unconstitutional aims, to promote art or science, research or teaching, reporting about current historical events or similar purposes.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; not a big fat swastika but some more obscure symbols .
[ ... ] &gt; I know I would n't stand for it .
I recognize the horrors of my own country and we will forever keep things like slavery and repression in general in front and center of our attention -- a mandatory history lesson -- so that we never repeat those mistakes.Actually , it was a Swastika [ schnittberichte.com ] .The SS insignia are hardly obscure , especially to Germans , because they learned about those symbols in school in mandatory history lessons , which you so kindly suggested.May I point out a certain point of the law , which might have slipped your eye : ( 3 ) Subsection ( 1 ) shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to further civil enlightenment , to avert unconstitutional aims , to promote art or science , research or teaching , reporting about current historical events or similar purposes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; not a big fat swastika but some more obscure symbols.
[...]&gt; I know I wouldn't stand for it.
I recognize the horrors of my own country and we will forever keep things like slavery and repression in general in front and center of our attention -- a mandatory history lesson -- so that we never repeat those mistakes.Actually, it was a Swastika [schnittberichte.com].The SS insignia are hardly obscure, especially to Germans, because they learned about those symbols in school in mandatory history lessons, which you so kindly suggested.May I point out a certain point of the law, which might have slipped your eye:(3) Subsection (1) shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to further civil enlightenment, to avert unconstitutional aims, to promote art or science, research or teaching, reporting about current historical events or similar purposes.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30121482</id>
	<title>i'm glad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258366200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm from Russia and i'm very glad that people in another country understand that "the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else. For example in Russia during WW2 died about 30 million of people<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... what about game... I had been realy disapointed when i see that i should to shoot in Russians.</p><p>P.S. sorry my bad english )))</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm from Russia and i 'm very glad that people in another country understand that " the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else .
For example in Russia during WW2 died about 30 million of people ... what about game... I had been realy disapointed when i see that i should to shoot in Russians.P.S .
sorry my bad english ) ) )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm from Russia and i'm very glad that people in another country understand that "the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.
For example in Russia during WW2 died about 30 million of people ... what about game... I had been realy disapointed when i see that i should to shoot in Russians.P.S.
sorry my bad english )))</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30123276</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258372920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>German resurgence is occurring - slowly - via domination of the EU and slowly in reclaiming 'lost' territories in Poland. The Germans aren't as benevolent as they portray themselves to be. They now make documentaries about the Wehrmacht massacring civilians and such but those who still remember WW2 and have contact with Germans as Eastern Europeans know very well of the deep racism of many Germans.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>German resurgence is occurring - slowly - via domination of the EU and slowly in reclaiming 'lost ' territories in Poland .
The Germans are n't as benevolent as they portray themselves to be .
They now make documentaries about the Wehrmacht massacring civilians and such but those who still remember WW2 and have contact with Germans as Eastern Europeans know very well of the deep racism of many Germans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>German resurgence is occurring - slowly - via domination of the EU and slowly in reclaiming 'lost' territories in Poland.
The Germans aren't as benevolent as they portray themselves to be.
They now make documentaries about the Wehrmacht massacring civilians and such but those who still remember WW2 and have contact with Germans as Eastern Europeans know very well of the deep racism of many Germans.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30121358</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258365540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, this web page contains a couple of factual errors. For example, it says</p><p><div class="quote"><p>As a matter of public law, the post-war German law codes prohibit the display of a swastika in any form or fashion, even if used satirically or as part of an anti-Nazi political statement.</p></div><p>which is just wrong. There are many exceptions to the ban of the swastika, including the use for education, research, in arts, movies etc. Recently, the musical "The Producers" was staged in Berlin - with real swastikas on stage.</p><p>Also:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Along with banning the publication or ownership of Hitler's autobiography Mein Kampf,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>It is perfectly legal to own (and sell) a copy of Mein Kampf, as long as it was printed before WWII. Books printed after WWII are in violation of copyright, as the copyright owner (the state of Bavaria) does not authorize books to be printed.</p><p>Also, it's Adolf, not Adolph...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , this web page contains a couple of factual errors .
For example , it saysAs a matter of public law , the post-war German law codes prohibit the display of a swastika in any form or fashion , even if used satirically or as part of an anti-Nazi political statement.which is just wrong .
There are many exceptions to the ban of the swastika , including the use for education , research , in arts , movies etc .
Recently , the musical " The Producers " was staged in Berlin - with real swastikas on stage.Also : Along with banning the publication or ownership of Hitler 's autobiography Mein Kampf , ...It is perfectly legal to own ( and sell ) a copy of Mein Kampf , as long as it was printed before WWII .
Books printed after WWII are in violation of copyright , as the copyright owner ( the state of Bavaria ) does not authorize books to be printed.Also , it 's Adolf , not Adolph... ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, this web page contains a couple of factual errors.
For example, it saysAs a matter of public law, the post-war German law codes prohibit the display of a swastika in any form or fashion, even if used satirically or as part of an anti-Nazi political statement.which is just wrong.
There are many exceptions to the ban of the swastika, including the use for education, research, in arts, movies etc.
Recently, the musical "The Producers" was staged in Berlin - with real swastikas on stage.Also:Along with banning the publication or ownership of Hitler's autobiography Mein Kampf, ...It is perfectly legal to own (and sell) a copy of Mein Kampf, as long as it was printed before WWII.
Books printed after WWII are in violation of copyright, as the copyright owner (the state of Bavaria) does not authorize books to be printed.Also, it's Adolf, not Adolph... ;)
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30121426</id>
	<title>Re:CoD6: Vietnam</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258365840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about this for a game?</p><p>You are a simple civilian living in peace in Afghanistan (maybe not a perfect life, but it's peace at least, right?) and the evil US invaders come to your town and fight off "terrorist" groups.  Your family, friends, and many in the town get killed in the cross fire, which also gets destroyed in battles.  You become angered at the US for disrupting the peace, which causes many to die and your town to be destroyed.  Your mission becomes revenge on the evil invaders of your home and you try to fight back against the US soldiers in multiple missions.  Eventually your mission leads you to the point of being part of a mission to infiltrate the US and destroy a major building with many innocent civilians thinking that it will be seen as something that will continue as long as those soldiers are fighting in your home country.</p><p>I am sure that would be a big hit and nobody here would demand it is removed from all store shelves (if any stores would sell it).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about this for a game ? You are a simple civilian living in peace in Afghanistan ( maybe not a perfect life , but it 's peace at least , right ?
) and the evil US invaders come to your town and fight off " terrorist " groups .
Your family , friends , and many in the town get killed in the cross fire , which also gets destroyed in battles .
You become angered at the US for disrupting the peace , which causes many to die and your town to be destroyed .
Your mission becomes revenge on the evil invaders of your home and you try to fight back against the US soldiers in multiple missions .
Eventually your mission leads you to the point of being part of a mission to infiltrate the US and destroy a major building with many innocent civilians thinking that it will be seen as something that will continue as long as those soldiers are fighting in your home country.I am sure that would be a big hit and nobody here would demand it is removed from all store shelves ( if any stores would sell it ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about this for a game?You are a simple civilian living in peace in Afghanistan (maybe not a perfect life, but it's peace at least, right?
) and the evil US invaders come to your town and fight off "terrorist" groups.
Your family, friends, and many in the town get killed in the cross fire, which also gets destroyed in battles.
You become angered at the US for disrupting the peace, which causes many to die and your town to be destroyed.
Your mission becomes revenge on the evil invaders of your home and you try to fight back against the US soldiers in multiple missions.
Eventually your mission leads you to the point of being part of a mission to infiltrate the US and destroy a major building with many innocent civilians thinking that it will be seen as something that will continue as long as those soldiers are fighting in your home country.I am sure that would be a big hit and nobody here would demand it is removed from all store shelves (if any stores would sell it).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120020</id>
	<title>Re:Swastika's are a legal issue.</title>
	<author>thisnamestoolong</author>
	<datestamp>1258403640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, this is true. It is also completely retarded. It does nothing but damage the civil liberties of all Germans and Austrians.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , this is true .
It is also completely retarded .
It does nothing but damage the civil liberties of all Germans and Austrians .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, this is true.
It is also completely retarded.
It does nothing but damage the civil liberties of all Germans and Austrians.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30127324</id>
	<title>Wolfenstein</title>
	<author>dugeen</author>
	<datestamp>1258457400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wolfenstein was recalled in Germany because Germany has strict laws about display of swastikas and other Nazi insignia, which the game violated. Not simply because it gave offence.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wolfenstein was recalled in Germany because Germany has strict laws about display of swastikas and other Nazi insignia , which the game violated .
Not simply because it gave offence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wolfenstein was recalled in Germany because Germany has strict laws about display of swastikas and other Nazi insignia, which the game violated.
Not simply because it gave offence.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118934</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>Keebler71</author>
	<datestamp>1258400460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>While we Americans were sitting on our rears eating bon-bons, more Russians died than in all of America's wars combined fighting Adolph Hitler.  Love them or hate them, forced by circumstances or not, the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.</p></div><p>How's that?  The fact that they suffered higher casualties does not at all correllate to their contribution to "saving Western Europe".  Perhaps they suffered higher casualties because they were an inferior fighting force.  Maybe if Stalin hadn't murdered the vast majority of his military leadership during the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great\_Purge" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">great purge</a> [wikipedia.org] from 1937-1938 then his armies would have faired better... from wikipedia: </p><p><div class="quote"><p> "The purge of the army removed three of five marshals (then equivalent to six-star generals), 13 of 15 army commanders (then equivalent to four- and five-star generals), eight of nine admirals (the purge fell heavily on the Navy, who were suspected of exploiting their opportunities for foreign contacts[24]), 50 of 57 army corps commanders, 154 out of 186 division commanders, 16 of 16 army commissars, and 25 of 28 army corps commissars")</p></div><p>  yeah...I'm sure that had nothing to do with their staggering losses...just a couple years later.. </p><p>

True they <b>sacrificed</b> more in terms of lives lost - but they were also fighting for their survival as a nation... if they were so interested in saving Western Europe then maybe that wouldn't have signed a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov\%E2\%80\%93Ribbentrop\_Pact" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">non-aggression pact</a> [wikipedia.org] with Hitler in 1939 (<b>complete with a secret pact collaborating with the Germans on carving up eastern Europe and the balatics</b>).</p></div>
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<tokenext>While we Americans were sitting on our rears eating bon-bons , more Russians died than in all of America 's wars combined fighting Adolph Hitler .
Love them or hate them , forced by circumstances or not , the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.How 's that ?
The fact that they suffered higher casualties does not at all correllate to their contribution to " saving Western Europe " .
Perhaps they suffered higher casualties because they were an inferior fighting force .
Maybe if Stalin had n't murdered the vast majority of his military leadership during the great purge [ wikipedia.org ] from 1937-1938 then his armies would have faired better... from wikipedia : " The purge of the army removed three of five marshals ( then equivalent to six-star generals ) , 13 of 15 army commanders ( then equivalent to four- and five-star generals ) , eight of nine admirals ( the purge fell heavily on the Navy , who were suspected of exploiting their opportunities for foreign contacts [ 24 ] ) , 50 of 57 army corps commanders , 154 out of 186 division commanders , 16 of 16 army commissars , and 25 of 28 army corps commissars " ) yeah...I 'm sure that had nothing to do with their staggering losses...just a couple years later. . True they sacrificed more in terms of lives lost - but they were also fighting for their survival as a nation... if they were so interested in saving Western Europe then maybe that would n't have signed a non-aggression pact [ wikipedia.org ] with Hitler in 1939 ( complete with a secret pact collaborating with the Germans on carving up eastern Europe and the balatics ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While we Americans were sitting on our rears eating bon-bons, more Russians died than in all of America's wars combined fighting Adolph Hitler.
Love them or hate them, forced by circumstances or not, the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.How's that?
The fact that they suffered higher casualties does not at all correllate to their contribution to "saving Western Europe".
Perhaps they suffered higher casualties because they were an inferior fighting force.
Maybe if Stalin hadn't murdered the vast majority of his military leadership during the great purge [wikipedia.org] from 1937-1938 then his armies would have faired better... from wikipedia:  "The purge of the army removed three of five marshals (then equivalent to six-star generals), 13 of 15 army commanders (then equivalent to four- and five-star generals), eight of nine admirals (the purge fell heavily on the Navy, who were suspected of exploiting their opportunities for foreign contacts[24]), 50 of 57 army corps commanders, 154 out of 186 division commanders, 16 of 16 army commissars, and 25 of 28 army corps commissars")  yeah...I'm sure that had nothing to do with their staggering losses...just a couple years later.. 

True they sacrificed more in terms of lives lost - but they were also fighting for their survival as a nation... if they were so interested in saving Western Europe then maybe that wouldn't have signed a non-aggression pact [wikipedia.org] with Hitler in 1939 (complete with a secret pact collaborating with the Germans on carving up eastern Europe and the balatics).
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118788</id>
	<title>Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258399980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While I confess I've never even visited Germany before, I had a teacher who did a while ago.  I remember him telling us the Germans had a culture of denial, when it came to the WWII Nazi era.  History textbooks would completely gloss over that part of history with only the vaguest mention of Hitler and his ambitions.  At first, he tried to discuss and question it with people there, but he said it was almost like running into a brick wall.  People would practically tell him to quiet down, because "we don't talk about that here anymore".</p><p>If that's accurate, then it goes a LONG way towards understanding why they'd ban a game like Wolfenstein, and why they're so adamant about banning sales of Nazi era items on eBay, etc. etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While I confess I 've never even visited Germany before , I had a teacher who did a while ago .
I remember him telling us the Germans had a culture of denial , when it came to the WWII Nazi era .
History textbooks would completely gloss over that part of history with only the vaguest mention of Hitler and his ambitions .
At first , he tried to discuss and question it with people there , but he said it was almost like running into a brick wall .
People would practically tell him to quiet down , because " we do n't talk about that here anymore " .If that 's accurate , then it goes a LONG way towards understanding why they 'd ban a game like Wolfenstein , and why they 're so adamant about banning sales of Nazi era items on eBay , etc .
etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I confess I've never even visited Germany before, I had a teacher who did a while ago.
I remember him telling us the Germans had a culture of denial, when it came to the WWII Nazi era.
History textbooks would completely gloss over that part of history with only the vaguest mention of Hitler and his ambitions.
At first, he tried to discuss and question it with people there, but he said it was almost like running into a brick wall.
People would practically tell him to quiet down, because "we don't talk about that here anymore".If that's accurate, then it goes a LONG way towards understanding why they'd ban a game like Wolfenstein, and why they're so adamant about banning sales of Nazi era items on eBay, etc.
etc.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118704</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258399740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course, the Russians have to take a lot of responsibility for that, because right up until the morning of the Nazi invasion they were shipping steel to Nazi Germany.  In fact, Operation Barbarossa was specifically delayed until after those final steel shipments.  It's one of the great ironies of the War that a lot of equipment thrown into the invasion of Russia was made using Russian steel.</p><p>Beyond that, one of the chief reasons that Germany was initially so successful was because of Stalin's purges of the Army in the 1930s had eliminated a good deal of talent in the Red Army.  While Hitler was content to overlook some of the opinions of his most important officers in the Navy, Army and Luftwaffe, Stalin's paranoia and megalomania drove him to wipe out a good portion of the very people that would have been key in organizing military defense.</p><p>So Russia was by no means innocent of its own woes, as Churchill reminded Stalin at times when Stalin would freak out about not enough armament shipments were getting through or when he felt the US and Britain weren't doing enough to relieve pressure in the Eastern Theater.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , the Russians have to take a lot of responsibility for that , because right up until the morning of the Nazi invasion they were shipping steel to Nazi Germany .
In fact , Operation Barbarossa was specifically delayed until after those final steel shipments .
It 's one of the great ironies of the War that a lot of equipment thrown into the invasion of Russia was made using Russian steel.Beyond that , one of the chief reasons that Germany was initially so successful was because of Stalin 's purges of the Army in the 1930s had eliminated a good deal of talent in the Red Army .
While Hitler was content to overlook some of the opinions of his most important officers in the Navy , Army and Luftwaffe , Stalin 's paranoia and megalomania drove him to wipe out a good portion of the very people that would have been key in organizing military defense.So Russia was by no means innocent of its own woes , as Churchill reminded Stalin at times when Stalin would freak out about not enough armament shipments were getting through or when he felt the US and Britain were n't doing enough to relieve pressure in the Eastern Theater .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, the Russians have to take a lot of responsibility for that, because right up until the morning of the Nazi invasion they were shipping steel to Nazi Germany.
In fact, Operation Barbarossa was specifically delayed until after those final steel shipments.
It's one of the great ironies of the War that a lot of equipment thrown into the invasion of Russia was made using Russian steel.Beyond that, one of the chief reasons that Germany was initially so successful was because of Stalin's purges of the Army in the 1930s had eliminated a good deal of talent in the Red Army.
While Hitler was content to overlook some of the opinions of his most important officers in the Navy, Army and Luftwaffe, Stalin's paranoia and megalomania drove him to wipe out a good portion of the very people that would have been key in organizing military defense.So Russia was by no means innocent of its own woes, as Churchill reminded Stalin at times when Stalin would freak out about not enough armament shipments were getting through or when he felt the US and Britain weren't doing enough to relieve pressure in the Eastern Theater.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30121010</id>
	<title>The US</title>
	<author>GigG</author>
	<datestamp>1258364160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The US General is the real "Bad Guy" in the game.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The US General is the real " Bad Guy " in the game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The US General is the real "Bad Guy" in the game.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119266</id>
	<title>Re:CoD6: Vietnam</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258401360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the name of the product as far as i can tell is Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2</p><p>or in abbreviated form. CoDMW2.</p><p>i hate to be so literal about it but if the company wanted it called "CoD6" they would have named it "CoD6"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the name of the product as far as i can tell is Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2or in abbreviated form .
CoDMW2.i hate to be so literal about it but if the company wanted it called " CoD6 " they would have named it " CoD6 "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the name of the product as far as i can tell is Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2or in abbreviated form.
CoDMW2.i hate to be so literal about it but if the company wanted it called "CoD6" they would have named it "CoD6"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30124430</id>
	<title>Re:Censorship is BAD, m'kay?</title>
	<author>e2d2</author>
	<datestamp>1258379580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You just pointed out the root problem: the world needs a big old dose of buck the fuck up. People will stereotype you, pigeon hole you, label you, etc. Who cares? Is it really reason enough to silence those people? Hardly.</p><p>Why is there so much outrage these days? Every source of debate seems to be summed up as "Your tone, it's all wrong!" Lighten up, sheesh. Legit problems should be the focus, not things related to personal egos.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You just pointed out the root problem : the world needs a big old dose of buck the fuck up .
People will stereotype you , pigeon hole you , label you , etc .
Who cares ?
Is it really reason enough to silence those people ?
Hardly.Why is there so much outrage these days ?
Every source of debate seems to be summed up as " Your tone , it 's all wrong !
" Lighten up , sheesh .
Legit problems should be the focus , not things related to personal egos .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You just pointed out the root problem: the world needs a big old dose of buck the fuck up.
People will stereotype you, pigeon hole you, label you, etc.
Who cares?
Is it really reason enough to silence those people?
Hardly.Why is there so much outrage these days?
Every source of debate seems to be summed up as "Your tone, it's all wrong!
" Lighten up, sheesh.
Legit problems should be the focus, not things related to personal egos.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119650</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>Dgtl\_+\_Phoenix</author>
	<datestamp>1258402560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>While only antidotal evidence, my experience with native Germans was quite similar. Attempts to speak of the Nazi era were generally dismissed with the tone that an American northerner would dismiss slavery. Pressing the issue yielded more awkward results. Only the Jewish population had any interest in anything beyond tacit acknowledgement of the Nazi regime. Given the culture of quite denial, it&rsquo;s not shocking that many German laws focus on keeping this portion of German history out of the spotlight.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While only antidotal evidence , my experience with native Germans was quite similar .
Attempts to speak of the Nazi era were generally dismissed with the tone that an American northerner would dismiss slavery .
Pressing the issue yielded more awkward results .
Only the Jewish population had any interest in anything beyond tacit acknowledgement of the Nazi regime .
Given the culture of quite denial , it    s not shocking that many German laws focus on keeping this portion of German history out of the spotlight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While only antidotal evidence, my experience with native Germans was quite similar.
Attempts to speak of the Nazi era were generally dismissed with the tone that an American northerner would dismiss slavery.
Pressing the issue yielded more awkward results.
Only the Jewish population had any interest in anything beyond tacit acknowledgement of the Nazi regime.
Given the culture of quite denial, it’s not shocking that many German laws focus on keeping this portion of German history out of the spotlight.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119842</id>
	<title>Re:Have they played the mission?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258403100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Corrected your post for accuracy with *  * below. (Spoilers)</p><p><div class="quote"><p>In 'No Russian', you play as an American CIA agent, and you, as an AMERICAN agent *working for the main villain undercover*, *have the moral choice to* lay round after round into the innocent populace *or not fire at all*, alongside the Russian antagonist *who will shoot you dead if you try to stop them, and does shoot you dead after the mission is over, because he knows you're a spook*.  I think the even larger message Infinity Ward sends with this mission is the atrocious things the American government is willing to do for the sake of 'National Security'. *Because the antagonist is not the "prize", the largest threat in the storyline.*<br>
&nbsp;</p> </div><p>My question at this point is will Infinity Ward release the "patch" as DLC in the rest of the world. The game gives you the option to skip the harrowing scenes, but a free patch to not play this one scene might be appealing to a lot of people.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Corrected your post for accuracy with * * below .
( Spoilers ) In 'No Russian ' , you play as an American CIA agent , and you , as an AMERICAN agent * working for the main villain undercover * , * have the moral choice to * lay round after round into the innocent populace * or not fire at all * , alongside the Russian antagonist * who will shoot you dead if you try to stop them , and does shoot you dead after the mission is over , because he knows you 're a spook * .
I think the even larger message Infinity Ward sends with this mission is the atrocious things the American government is willing to do for the sake of 'National Security' .
* Because the antagonist is not the " prize " , the largest threat in the storyline .
*   My question at this point is will Infinity Ward release the " patch " as DLC in the rest of the world .
The game gives you the option to skip the harrowing scenes , but a free patch to not play this one scene might be appealing to a lot of people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Corrected your post for accuracy with *  * below.
(Spoilers)In 'No Russian', you play as an American CIA agent, and you, as an AMERICAN agent *working for the main villain undercover*, *have the moral choice to* lay round after round into the innocent populace *or not fire at all*, alongside the Russian antagonist *who will shoot you dead if you try to stop them, and does shoot you dead after the mission is over, because he knows you're a spook*.
I think the even larger message Infinity Ward sends with this mission is the atrocious things the American government is willing to do for the sake of 'National Security'.
*Because the antagonist is not the "prize", the largest threat in the storyline.
*
  My question at this point is will Infinity Ward release the "patch" as DLC in the rest of the world.
The game gives you the option to skip the harrowing scenes, but a free patch to not play this one scene might be appealing to a lot of people.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119852</id>
	<title>Re:yeah i think</title>
	<author>plague3106</author>
	<datestamp>1258403100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How very arrogent of you, to think that people are so stupid as to be influced as much as you claim.  Oh, but I'm sure you don't think media influcences YOU right?  After all, you're too smart.</p><p>How about we do this instead; let people think for themselves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How very arrogent of you , to think that people are so stupid as to be influced as much as you claim .
Oh , but I 'm sure you do n't think media influcences YOU right ?
After all , you 're too smart.How about we do this instead ; let people think for themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How very arrogent of you, to think that people are so stupid as to be influced as much as you claim.
Oh, but I'm sure you don't think media influcences YOU right?
After all, you're too smart.How about we do this instead; let people think for themselves.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118542</id>
	<title>CoD6: Vietnam</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258399200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>When are the Vietnam missions coming out where a villiage gate opens and you have to pillage and rape all the civilians?  That's right, nobody is stupid enough to do it for the same reason.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When are the Vietnam missions coming out where a villiage gate opens and you have to pillage and rape all the civilians ?
That 's right , nobody is stupid enough to do it for the same reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When are the Vietnam missions coming out where a villiage gate opens and you have to pillage and rape all the civilians?
That's right, nobody is stupid enough to do it for the same reason.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30129646</id>
	<title>Enough with the carebears</title>
	<author>Adustust</author>
	<datestamp>1258476720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For those who are complaining about the scene specifically - It's a game meant for entertainment, just as there are massacres in movies, there can be massacres in video games.  They're both meant for the same age group.

For those who are complaining about the negative portrayal of Russia - There was also a corrupted general who killed his own men in this game too.  It's a fictional storyline, get over it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For those who are complaining about the scene specifically - It 's a game meant for entertainment , just as there are massacres in movies , there can be massacres in video games .
They 're both meant for the same age group .
For those who are complaining about the negative portrayal of Russia - There was also a corrupted general who killed his own men in this game too .
It 's a fictional storyline , get over it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For those who are complaining about the scene specifically - It's a game meant for entertainment, just as there are massacres in movies, there can be massacres in video games.
They're both meant for the same age group.
For those who are complaining about the negative portrayal of Russia - There was also a corrupted general who killed his own men in this game too.
It's a fictional storyline, get over it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119958</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258403400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>While I confess I've never even visited Germany before, I had a teacher who did a while ago. I remember him telling us the Germans had a culture of denial, when it came to the WWII Nazi era.</p></div><p>Not sure which Germany he visited, but it does not seem to be the Germany I live and grew up in. Where I spent about a school years worth of history classes learning about the period of 1910-1945. Where even on the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Wall on November 9th it is important to stress that on November 9th 1938 the synagogues were burning. Where every anniversary of historic events related to the Third Reich is met with reports on TV and in the magazines. Where eg the largest and most influential weekly magazin on occasion of the 70th anniversary of the start of WWII has a cover titled "The war of the Germans; 1939: when a nation attacked the world". (http://wissen.spiegel.de/wissen/titel/SP/2009/35/312/titel.jpg)</p><p>Of course you will meet people with different attitudes towards that. Some people would rather not be bothered anymore. Others might be very conscious about it, and still not really happy  (or comfortable) to talk about it too much. But the vast majority of people I know has a conscious, respectful yet also somewhat relaxed attitude towards it (which is easier for the generations which don't have to justify themselves what they did during that time, of course).</p><p>All in all, I think the Nazi past plays a big role in the attitude and consciousness (or however you want to call it) in the present day society in Germany. I have foreign friends living here in Germany who are quite amazed by that (and say that they think that the postwar generations feel too guilty in their opinion).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>While I confess I 've never even visited Germany before , I had a teacher who did a while ago .
I remember him telling us the Germans had a culture of denial , when it came to the WWII Nazi era.Not sure which Germany he visited , but it does not seem to be the Germany I live and grew up in .
Where I spent about a school years worth of history classes learning about the period of 1910-1945 .
Where even on the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Wall on November 9th it is important to stress that on November 9th 1938 the synagogues were burning .
Where every anniversary of historic events related to the Third Reich is met with reports on TV and in the magazines .
Where eg the largest and most influential weekly magazin on occasion of the 70th anniversary of the start of WWII has a cover titled " The war of the Germans ; 1939 : when a nation attacked the world " .
( http : //wissen.spiegel.de/wissen/titel/SP/2009/35/312/titel.jpg ) Of course you will meet people with different attitudes towards that .
Some people would rather not be bothered anymore .
Others might be very conscious about it , and still not really happy ( or comfortable ) to talk about it too much .
But the vast majority of people I know has a conscious , respectful yet also somewhat relaxed attitude towards it ( which is easier for the generations which do n't have to justify themselves what they did during that time , of course ) .All in all , I think the Nazi past plays a big role in the attitude and consciousness ( or however you want to call it ) in the present day society in Germany .
I have foreign friends living here in Germany who are quite amazed by that ( and say that they think that the postwar generations feel too guilty in their opinion ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I confess I've never even visited Germany before, I had a teacher who did a while ago.
I remember him telling us the Germans had a culture of denial, when it came to the WWII Nazi era.Not sure which Germany he visited, but it does not seem to be the Germany I live and grew up in.
Where I spent about a school years worth of history classes learning about the period of 1910-1945.
Where even on the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Wall on November 9th it is important to stress that on November 9th 1938 the synagogues were burning.
Where every anniversary of historic events related to the Third Reich is met with reports on TV and in the magazines.
Where eg the largest and most influential weekly magazin on occasion of the 70th anniversary of the start of WWII has a cover titled "The war of the Germans; 1939: when a nation attacked the world".
(http://wissen.spiegel.de/wissen/titel/SP/2009/35/312/titel.jpg)Of course you will meet people with different attitudes towards that.
Some people would rather not be bothered anymore.
Others might be very conscious about it, and still not really happy  (or comfortable) to talk about it too much.
But the vast majority of people I know has a conscious, respectful yet also somewhat relaxed attitude towards it (which is easier for the generations which don't have to justify themselves what they did during that time, of course).All in all, I think the Nazi past plays a big role in the attitude and consciousness (or however you want to call it) in the present day society in Germany.
I have foreign friends living here in Germany who are quite amazed by that (and say that they think that the postwar generations feel too guilty in their opinion).
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	<title>You know the old saying...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
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	<htmltext><p>In Soviet Russia the... Uh... whoa.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Soviet Russia the... Uh... whoa .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Soviet Russia the... Uh... whoa.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118716</id>
	<title>Re:Swastika's are a legal issue.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258399740000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Its actually illegal to display swatika's in public in Germany and Austria.</p></div><p>So if I recall the images from the Germany story that I linked to in the summary, it wasn't even swastikas.  It was SS symbols on a dead soldier's lapel that they <i>missed</i> as they retextured much of the game.  As I commented on that last story:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>German law <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch\_\%C2\%A7\_86a" title="wikipedia.org">Strafgesetzbuch Section 86</a> [wikipedia.org]:</p><p>Dissemination of Means of Propaganda of Unconstitutional Organizations (1) Whoever domestically disseminates or produces, stocks, imports or exports or makes publicly accessible through data storage media for dissemination domestically or abroad, means of propaganda: 1. of a party which has been declared to be unconstitutional by the Federal Constitutional Court or a party or organization, as to which it has been determined, no longer subject to appeal, that it is a substitute organization of such a party; [...] 4. means of propaganda, the contents of which are intended to further the aims of a former National Socialist organization, shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine. [...] (3) Subsection (1) shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to further civil enlightenment, to avert unconstitutional aims, to promote art or science, research or teaching, reporting about current historical events or similar purposes. [...] Section 86a StGB Use of Symbols of Unconstitutional Organizations (1) Whoever: 1. domestically distributes or publicly uses, in a meeting or in writings (&#194; 11 subsection (3)) disseminated by him, symbols of one of the parties or organizations indicated in Section 86 subsection (1), nos. 1, 2 and 4; or 2. produces, stocks, imports or exports objects which depict or contain such symbols for distribution or use domestically or abroad, in the manner indicated in number 1, shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine. (2) Symbols, within the meaning of subsection (1), shall be, in particular, flags, insignia, uniforms, slogans and forms of greeting. Symbols which are so similar as to be mistaken for those named in sentence 1 shall be deemed to be equivalent thereto.</p></div><p>That part about "flags, insignia, uniforms, slogans and forms of greeting" is what got them--not a big fat swastika but some more obscure symbols.  It really makes you wonder how broad they purposefully wrote this law so that they can use their own discretion to censor what they see fit.  I don't agree with it but they're a sovereign nation that makes its own laws.  I know I wouldn't stand for it.  I recognize the horrors of my own country and we will forever keep things like slavery and repression in general in front and center of our attention -- a mandatory history lesson -- so that we never repeat those mistakes.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Its actually illegal to display swatika 's in public in Germany and Austria.So if I recall the images from the Germany story that I linked to in the summary , it was n't even swastikas .
It was SS symbols on a dead soldier 's lapel that they missed as they retextured much of the game .
As I commented on that last story : German law Strafgesetzbuch Section 86 [ wikipedia.org ] : Dissemination of Means of Propaganda of Unconstitutional Organizations ( 1 ) Whoever domestically disseminates or produces , stocks , imports or exports or makes publicly accessible through data storage media for dissemination domestically or abroad , means of propaganda : 1. of a party which has been declared to be unconstitutional by the Federal Constitutional Court or a party or organization , as to which it has been determined , no longer subject to appeal , that it is a substitute organization of such a party ; [ ... ] 4. means of propaganda , the contents of which are intended to further the aims of a former National Socialist organization , shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine .
[ ... ] ( 3 ) Subsection ( 1 ) shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to further civil enlightenment , to avert unconstitutional aims , to promote art or science , research or teaching , reporting about current historical events or similar purposes .
[ ... ] Section 86a StGB Use of Symbols of Unconstitutional Organizations ( 1 ) Whoever : 1. domestically distributes or publicly uses , in a meeting or in writings (   11 subsection ( 3 ) ) disseminated by him , symbols of one of the parties or organizations indicated in Section 86 subsection ( 1 ) , nos .
1 , 2 and 4 ; or 2. produces , stocks , imports or exports objects which depict or contain such symbols for distribution or use domestically or abroad , in the manner indicated in number 1 , shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine .
( 2 ) Symbols , within the meaning of subsection ( 1 ) , shall be , in particular , flags , insignia , uniforms , slogans and forms of greeting .
Symbols which are so similar as to be mistaken for those named in sentence 1 shall be deemed to be equivalent thereto.That part about " flags , insignia , uniforms , slogans and forms of greeting " is what got them--not a big fat swastika but some more obscure symbols .
It really makes you wonder how broad they purposefully wrote this law so that they can use their own discretion to censor what they see fit .
I do n't agree with it but they 're a sovereign nation that makes its own laws .
I know I would n't stand for it .
I recognize the horrors of my own country and we will forever keep things like slavery and repression in general in front and center of our attention -- a mandatory history lesson -- so that we never repeat those mistakes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its actually illegal to display swatika's in public in Germany and Austria.So if I recall the images from the Germany story that I linked to in the summary, it wasn't even swastikas.
It was SS symbols on a dead soldier's lapel that they missed as they retextured much of the game.
As I commented on that last story:German law Strafgesetzbuch Section 86 [wikipedia.org]:Dissemination of Means of Propaganda of Unconstitutional Organizations (1) Whoever domestically disseminates or produces, stocks, imports or exports or makes publicly accessible through data storage media for dissemination domestically or abroad, means of propaganda: 1. of a party which has been declared to be unconstitutional by the Federal Constitutional Court or a party or organization, as to which it has been determined, no longer subject to appeal, that it is a substitute organization of such a party; [...] 4. means of propaganda, the contents of which are intended to further the aims of a former National Socialist organization, shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine.
[...] (3) Subsection (1) shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to further civil enlightenment, to avert unconstitutional aims, to promote art or science, research or teaching, reporting about current historical events or similar purposes.
[...] Section 86a StGB Use of Symbols of Unconstitutional Organizations (1) Whoever: 1. domestically distributes or publicly uses, in a meeting or in writings (Â 11 subsection (3)) disseminated by him, symbols of one of the parties or organizations indicated in Section 86 subsection (1), nos.
1, 2 and 4; or 2. produces, stocks, imports or exports objects which depict or contain such symbols for distribution or use domestically or abroad, in the manner indicated in number 1, shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine.
(2) Symbols, within the meaning of subsection (1), shall be, in particular, flags, insignia, uniforms, slogans and forms of greeting.
Symbols which are so similar as to be mistaken for those named in sentence 1 shall be deemed to be equivalent thereto.That part about "flags, insignia, uniforms, slogans and forms of greeting" is what got them--not a big fat swastika but some more obscure symbols.
It really makes you wonder how broad they purposefully wrote this law so that they can use their own discretion to censor what they see fit.
I don't agree with it but they're a sovereign nation that makes its own laws.
I know I wouldn't stand for it.
I recognize the horrors of my own country and we will forever keep things like slavery and repression in general in front and center of our attention -- a mandatory history lesson -- so that we never repeat those mistakes.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30122834</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1258371000000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If the Russians had allied with the Western Allies in 1939 Germany would have been crushed and the Great Patriotic War would never have happened. Let's try not to forget that.....</p></div><p>You assume that nothing happened between 1939 and 1941 in the USSR. In fact, those 2 years of staying out of the fight were used to heavily ramp up military production, and fight Winter War (which served as a kind of practice session - it was a bitter lesson, but a lesson nonetheless, and e.g. the design of the legendary PPSh was much affected by it).</p><p>As well, service time for conscripts was increased during that period, so Soviets had more trained soldiers than they did in 1939.</p><p>To sum it up: if the USSR were to enter the war in 39, it's not at all clear how that would have gone. "Germany crushed" is mere speculation, and an unlikely one at that.</p></div>
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<tokenext>If the Russians had allied with the Western Allies in 1939 Germany would have been crushed and the Great Patriotic War would never have happened .
Let 's try not to forget that.....You assume that nothing happened between 1939 and 1941 in the USSR .
In fact , those 2 years of staying out of the fight were used to heavily ramp up military production , and fight Winter War ( which served as a kind of practice session - it was a bitter lesson , but a lesson nonetheless , and e.g .
the design of the legendary PPSh was much affected by it ) .As well , service time for conscripts was increased during that period , so Soviets had more trained soldiers than they did in 1939.To sum it up : if the USSR were to enter the war in 39 , it 's not at all clear how that would have gone .
" Germany crushed " is mere speculation , and an unlikely one at that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the Russians had allied with the Western Allies in 1939 Germany would have been crushed and the Great Patriotic War would never have happened.
Let's try not to forget that.....You assume that nothing happened between 1939 and 1941 in the USSR.
In fact, those 2 years of staying out of the fight were used to heavily ramp up military production, and fight Winter War (which served as a kind of practice session - it was a bitter lesson, but a lesson nonetheless, and e.g.
the design of the legendary PPSh was much affected by it).As well, service time for conscripts was increased during that period, so Soviets had more trained soldiers than they did in 1939.To sum it up: if the USSR were to enter the war in 39, it's not at all clear how that would have gone.
"Germany crushed" is mere speculation, and an unlikely one at that.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30121546</id>
	<title>Re:Swastika's are a legal issue.</title>
	<author>richlv</author>
	<datestamp>1258366440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>and in latvian mythology as well - it's called peerkonjkrusts (transliterated, damn slashdot) or thundercross, as one of the main gods was thunder.<br><a href="http://latvianhistory.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/the-latvian-mythology/" title="wordpress.com">http://latvianhistory.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/the-latvian-mythology/</a> [wordpress.com]</p><p>unfortunately, it's historical misuse prevents education - for example see item 6 at <a href="http://www.skyforger.lv/en/index.php?main\_page\_id=21&amp;page\_type=text" title="skyforger.lv">http://www.skyforger.lv/en/index.php?main\_page\_id=21&amp;page\_type=text</a> [skyforger.lv]</p><p>it also had  more complex buildup, as can be seen here : <a href="http://www.latvianstuff.com/Pagan\_design\_elements2.html" title="latvianstuff.com">http://www.latvianstuff.com/Pagan\_design\_elements2.html</a> [latvianstuff.com] and here : <a href="http://www.abc.lv/cms/lvdizaineri\_davanas\_6\_14\_420x340.jpg" title="www.abc.lv">http://www.abc.lv/cms/lvdizaineri\_davanas\_6\_14\_420x340.jpg</a> [www.abc.lv]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and in latvian mythology as well - it 's called peerkonjkrusts ( transliterated , damn slashdot ) or thundercross , as one of the main gods was thunder.http : //latvianhistory.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/the-latvian-mythology/ [ wordpress.com ] unfortunately , it 's historical misuse prevents education - for example see item 6 at http : //www.skyforger.lv/en/index.php ? main \ _page \ _id = 21&amp;page \ _type = text [ skyforger.lv ] it also had more complex buildup , as can be seen here : http : //www.latvianstuff.com/Pagan \ _design \ _elements2.html [ latvianstuff.com ] and here : http : //www.abc.lv/cms/lvdizaineri \ _davanas \ _6 \ _14 \ _420x340.jpg [ www.abc.lv ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and in latvian mythology as well - it's called peerkonjkrusts (transliterated, damn slashdot) or thundercross, as one of the main gods was thunder.http://latvianhistory.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/the-latvian-mythology/ [wordpress.com]unfortunately, it's historical misuse prevents education - for example see item 6 at http://www.skyforger.lv/en/index.php?main\_page\_id=21&amp;page\_type=text [skyforger.lv]it also had  more complex buildup, as can be seen here : http://www.latvianstuff.com/Pagan\_design\_elements2.html [latvianstuff.com] and here : http://www.abc.lv/cms/lvdizaineri\_davanas\_6\_14\_420x340.jpg [www.abc.lv]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119728</id>
	<title>Iran/North Korea/etc...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258402800000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Tell ya what Russia... you stop making nukes for countries with extremists and an itchy trigger finger for incumbent governing bodies... we'll stop presuming you lean towards the "evil" side of things.</p><p>That all aside, if their economy warranted for publishing world-market games, I'm sure they'd have no issues depicting any other nationality as evil.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tell ya what Russia... you stop making nukes for countries with extremists and an itchy trigger finger for incumbent governing bodies... we 'll stop presuming you lean towards the " evil " side of things.That all aside , if their economy warranted for publishing world-market games , I 'm sure they 'd have no issues depicting any other nationality as evil .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tell ya what Russia... you stop making nukes for countries with extremists and an itchy trigger finger for incumbent governing bodies... we'll stop presuming you lean towards the "evil" side of things.That all aside, if their economy warranted for publishing world-market games, I'm sure they'd have no issues depicting any other nationality as evil.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119194</id>
	<title>Re:Swastika's are a legal issue.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258401120000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>1) The Nazi swastika is sufficiently different from the religious swastikas to be able to distinguish them<br>2) Swastika's for religious use are tolerated</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) The Nazi swastika is sufficiently different from the religious swastikas to be able to distinguish them2 ) Swastika 's for religious use are tolerated</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) The Nazi swastika is sufficiently different from the religious swastikas to be able to distinguish them2) Swastika's for religious use are tolerated</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119270</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>ground.zero.612</author>
	<datestamp>1258401360000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>Oh boo hoo. Russia has a bad history, it should expect criticism</i> </p><p>While we Americans were sitting on our rears eating bon-bons, more Russians died than in all of America's wars combined fighting Adolph Hitler.  Love them or hate them, forced by circumstances or not, the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.</p></div><p>Patently wrong.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Love them or hate them, forced by circumstances or not, the Russians <em> <strong>died</strong> </em> more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.</p></div><p>There, fixed that for you.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Oh boo hoo .
Russia has a bad history , it should expect criticism While we Americans were sitting on our rears eating bon-bons , more Russians died than in all of America 's wars combined fighting Adolph Hitler .
Love them or hate them , forced by circumstances or not , the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.Patently wrong.Love them or hate them , forced by circumstances or not , the Russians died more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.There , fixed that for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Oh boo hoo.
Russia has a bad history, it should expect criticism While we Americans were sitting on our rears eating bon-bons, more Russians died than in all of America's wars combined fighting Adolph Hitler.
Love them or hate them, forced by circumstances or not, the Russians did more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.Patently wrong.Love them or hate them, forced by circumstances or not, the Russians  died  more to save Western Europe from Nazism than anyone else.There, fixed that for you.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119340</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258401540000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I am pretty sure no Russians have died defending the West<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... ever!</p><p>They died defended their homeland. Once that was safe they moved West in a land grab. It took 50 years for those countries to gain independence.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am pretty sure no Russians have died defending the West ... ever ! They died defended their homeland .
Once that was safe they moved West in a land grab .
It took 50 years for those countries to gain independence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am pretty sure no Russians have died defending the West ... ever!They died defended their homeland.
Once that was safe they moved West in a land grab.
It took 50 years for those countries to gain independence.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119110</id>
	<title>Re:Swastika's are a legal issue.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258400940000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Swastikas are only prohibited as symbols of the Nazi regime, and only when used as such in a non-documentary fashion. If one agrees that using symbols of unconstitutional organizations should be illegal, then the law as it exists is quite reasonable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Swastikas are only prohibited as symbols of the Nazi regime , and only when used as such in a non-documentary fashion .
If one agrees that using symbols of unconstitutional organizations should be illegal , then the law as it exists is quite reasonable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Swastikas are only prohibited as symbols of the Nazi regime, and only when used as such in a non-documentary fashion.
If one agrees that using symbols of unconstitutional organizations should be illegal, then the law as it exists is quite reasonable.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118800</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>NotBornYesterday</author>
	<datestamp>1258400040000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Bon-bons?  Hyperbole much?  Also, your geography is off; Russia is to the east.  Strictly speaking, not a single Russian died defending Western Europe.  Of course, you will probably say that they turned Hitler's armies and resources away from the Western front, but I'd argue that Hitler did that on his own, and I don't think Russia deserves credit for Hitler's mistake.
<br> <br>
Not to belittle Russia's accomplishment in fighting them off, or the massive loss of life they sustained, just being picky.  If you had left "Western" off your comment, I probably would agree more.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bon-bons ?
Hyperbole much ?
Also , your geography is off ; Russia is to the east .
Strictly speaking , not a single Russian died defending Western Europe .
Of course , you will probably say that they turned Hitler 's armies and resources away from the Western front , but I 'd argue that Hitler did that on his own , and I do n't think Russia deserves credit for Hitler 's mistake .
Not to belittle Russia 's accomplishment in fighting them off , or the massive loss of life they sustained , just being picky .
If you had left " Western " off your comment , I probably would agree more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bon-bons?
Hyperbole much?
Also, your geography is off; Russia is to the east.
Strictly speaking, not a single Russian died defending Western Europe.
Of course, you will probably say that they turned Hitler's armies and resources away from the Western front, but I'd argue that Hitler did that on his own, and I don't think Russia deserves credit for Hitler's mistake.
Not to belittle Russia's accomplishment in fighting them off, or the massive loss of life they sustained, just being picky.
If you had left "Western" off your comment, I probably would agree more.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119612</id>
	<title>Re:Have they played the mission?</title>
	<author>PitaBred</author>
	<datestamp>1258402380000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>And if you made the same game except shooting innocent Americans? Wait... nothing would happen. Protests, sure, but there would be no banning of the game here in the US. <br> <br>
Or should we ban books where they talk about the atrocities the Russians committed in wartime? Or Americans? Where does it end when you start regulating "distasteful" content?</htmltext>
<tokenext>And if you made the same game except shooting innocent Americans ?
Wait... nothing would happen .
Protests , sure , but there would be no banning of the game here in the US .
Or should we ban books where they talk about the atrocities the Russians committed in wartime ?
Or Americans ?
Where does it end when you start regulating " distasteful " content ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if you made the same game except shooting innocent Americans?
Wait... nothing would happen.
Protests, sure, but there would be no banning of the game here in the US.
Or should we ban books where they talk about the atrocities the Russians committed in wartime?
Or Americans?
Where does it end when you start regulating "distasteful" content?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120944</id>
	<title>Re:Censorship is BAD, m'kay?</title>
	<author>santiagodraco</author>
	<datestamp>1258363800000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>This is censorship?   Riiight.</p><p>Hell, I was embarrased FOR them when I saw that crap.  This isn't 1970, the cold war is over.   Where have these developers been hiding anyway?  People need to start thinking more responsibly when they create media like this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is censorship ?
Riiight.Hell , I was embarrased FOR them when I saw that crap .
This is n't 1970 , the cold war is over .
Where have these developers been hiding anyway ?
People need to start thinking more responsibly when they create media like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is censorship?
Riiight.Hell, I was embarrased FOR them when I saw that crap.
This isn't 1970, the cold war is over.
Where have these developers been hiding anyway?
People need to start thinking more responsibly when they create media like this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30124574</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Simulant</author>
	<datestamp>1258380600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Citation needed.   Please list one game that portrays the US military in a bad light.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Citation needed .
Please list one game that portrays the US military in a bad light .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Citation needed.
Please list one game that portrays the US military in a bad light.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119636</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119636</id>
	<title>And yet</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1258402500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>A good percentage of games and media made in the U.S. portray the U.S. government in a bad light, and yet they don't get yanked. (pun merely fortuitous)</htmltext>
<tokenext>A good percentage of games and media made in the U.S. portray the U.S. government in a bad light , and yet they do n't get yanked .
( pun merely fortuitous )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A good percentage of games and media made in the U.S. portray the U.S. government in a bad light, and yet they don't get yanked.
(pun merely fortuitous)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120386</id>
	<title>Re:CoD6: Vietnam</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258404780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The appropriate question is not that some company has/hasn't made such a game but if said game existed, would you be able to play it in the USA?</p><p>The answer would likely be "yes", you could probably still buy said game but it would likely be pulled from many store shelves due to public pressure.  Places like Walmart that have pulled music and magazines because of "objectionable" nature.</p><p>* SPOILERS * Of course, the scene in question isn't all about Russia.  You're playing an "undercover" American who also willingly slaughters thousands of civilians.  Not all of whom where likely Russian.  I thought the rest of the game was far more "anti-Russian" than that one scene, I think.  Given Russia invades America and proceeds to destroy everything standing in their way.  Basically saying, a terrorist act carried out by suspected American terrorists would warrant an entire invasion of one major super power into another.</p><p>Of course, it's really Infinity Ward's way of making you think about 9/11 and the response of America with the Afghanistan and Iraq invasion, from a different view point.  It's just Russia got the scapegoat title instead of some made up countries name. And that's primarily trying to connect this game to the first game where some story of the Cold War was involved.</p><p>Of course, the second games story was much weaker but some of the level designs where cooler.  It was nice to see what it the developer envisioned of fighting a modern war on American soil.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The appropriate question is not that some company has/has n't made such a game but if said game existed , would you be able to play it in the USA ? The answer would likely be " yes " , you could probably still buy said game but it would likely be pulled from many store shelves due to public pressure .
Places like Walmart that have pulled music and magazines because of " objectionable " nature .
* SPOILERS * Of course , the scene in question is n't all about Russia .
You 're playing an " undercover " American who also willingly slaughters thousands of civilians .
Not all of whom where likely Russian .
I thought the rest of the game was far more " anti-Russian " than that one scene , I think .
Given Russia invades America and proceeds to destroy everything standing in their way .
Basically saying , a terrorist act carried out by suspected American terrorists would warrant an entire invasion of one major super power into another.Of course , it 's really Infinity Ward 's way of making you think about 9/11 and the response of America with the Afghanistan and Iraq invasion , from a different view point .
It 's just Russia got the scapegoat title instead of some made up countries name .
And that 's primarily trying to connect this game to the first game where some story of the Cold War was involved.Of course , the second games story was much weaker but some of the level designs where cooler .
It was nice to see what it the developer envisioned of fighting a modern war on American soil .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The appropriate question is not that some company has/hasn't made such a game but if said game existed, would you be able to play it in the USA?The answer would likely be "yes", you could probably still buy said game but it would likely be pulled from many store shelves due to public pressure.
Places like Walmart that have pulled music and magazines because of "objectionable" nature.
* SPOILERS * Of course, the scene in question isn't all about Russia.
You're playing an "undercover" American who also willingly slaughters thousands of civilians.
Not all of whom where likely Russian.
I thought the rest of the game was far more "anti-Russian" than that one scene, I think.
Given Russia invades America and proceeds to destroy everything standing in their way.
Basically saying, a terrorist act carried out by suspected American terrorists would warrant an entire invasion of one major super power into another.Of course, it's really Infinity Ward's way of making you think about 9/11 and the response of America with the Afghanistan and Iraq invasion, from a different view point.
It's just Russia got the scapegoat title instead of some made up countries name.
And that's primarily trying to connect this game to the first game where some story of the Cold War was involved.Of course, the second games story was much weaker but some of the level designs where cooler.
It was nice to see what it the developer envisioned of fighting a modern war on American soil.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120954</id>
	<title>not "cultural sensitivity" ?</title>
	<author>Zoxed</author>
	<datestamp>1258363860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Is cultural sensitivity becoming an overly played card in the gaming world? Not too long ago, Wolfenstein was recalled in Germany for containing Nazi symbols.</p><p>My knowledge of German law/history is hazy, but Nazi symbols are illegal in Germany (and Austria ?) under the constitution except in certain cases. (And the constitution was initiated and signed off by the Allies.)</p><p>i.e. it was not "cultural sensitivity", but illegality that affected Wolfenstein.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Is cultural sensitivity becoming an overly played card in the gaming world ?
Not too long ago , Wolfenstein was recalled in Germany for containing Nazi symbols.My knowledge of German law/history is hazy , but Nazi symbols are illegal in Germany ( and Austria ?
) under the constitution except in certain cases .
( And the constitution was initiated and signed off by the Allies. ) i.e .
it was not " cultural sensitivity " , but illegality that affected Wolfenstein .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Is cultural sensitivity becoming an overly played card in the gaming world?
Not too long ago, Wolfenstein was recalled in Germany for containing Nazi symbols.My knowledge of German law/history is hazy, but Nazi symbols are illegal in Germany (and Austria ?
) under the constitution except in certain cases.
(And the constitution was initiated and signed off by the Allies.)i.e.
it was not "cultural sensitivity", but illegality that affected Wolfenstein.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30125240</id>
	<title>Re:It doesn't say why?</title>
	<author>Lunzo</author>
	<datestamp>1258386840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually Modern Warfare 2 isn't banned in Australia. Apparently shooting civilians at an airport isn't evil but setting fire to zombies and cutting undead with chainsaws is.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually Modern Warfare 2 is n't banned in Australia .
Apparently shooting civilians at an airport is n't evil but setting fire to zombies and cutting undead with chainsaws is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually Modern Warfare 2 isn't banned in Australia.
Apparently shooting civilians at an airport isn't evil but setting fire to zombies and cutting undead with chainsaws is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118810</id>
	<title>Re:Have they played the mission?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258400040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem with the mission with who is doing the shooting - it's with <strong>who you are shooting at</strong>. You are shooting Russian civilians. Massacring dozens of them in cold blood. That's why Russia threatened to ban the game unless the mission was removed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem with the mission with who is doing the shooting - it 's with who you are shooting at .
You are shooting Russian civilians .
Massacring dozens of them in cold blood .
That 's why Russia threatened to ban the game unless the mission was removed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem with the mission with who is doing the shooting - it's with who you are shooting at.
You are shooting Russian civilians.
Massacring dozens of them in cold blood.
That's why Russia threatened to ban the game unless the mission was removed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30124892</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258383660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Americans called it Manifest Destiny</p><p>The Germans called it Liebensraum</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Americans called it Manifest DestinyThe Germans called it Liebensraum</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Americans called it Manifest DestinyThe Germans called it Liebensraum</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120450</id>
	<title>How hard to relate to them really?</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1258405020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is there a mission where you kill American civilians as some Al Queda member? No? Why not?</p><p>I play games since 1980s and I keep "killing" Russians, "bombing" Russian towns, watching dumb Russian soldiers.</p><p>It really seems someone at "New World" better start a global political correctness fashion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is there a mission where you kill American civilians as some Al Queda member ?
No ? Why not ? I play games since 1980s and I keep " killing " Russians , " bombing " Russian towns , watching dumb Russian soldiers.It really seems someone at " New World " better start a global political correctness fashion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is there a mission where you kill American civilians as some Al Queda member?
No? Why not?I play games since 1980s and I keep "killing" Russians, "bombing" Russian towns, watching dumb Russian soldiers.It really seems someone at "New World" better start a global political correctness fashion.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119220</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>raddan</author>
	<datestamp>1258401180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been to Germany a number of times, and had a long-term relationship with a woman living there.  I met a lot of Germans.
<br> <br>
I wouldn't say that modern Germans are 'in denial'-- really, people's reactions run the gamut.  But what is true, is that everyone there has a strong opinion on the matter.  Many people have a deep sense of shame about it-- after all, in many cases the people who perpetrated the atrocities of WWII were parents or grandparents.  Some people had nothing to do with that part of the past, or are descendents of victims, and they feel that the German people are wrongly villified.  A minority-- and unfortunately, these people are growing in number-- think that the whole Holocaust thing is revisionist history.  It's not that people don't talk about it, but it is a very sensitive issue, even among Germans, and so you'd understand if they don't want to talk to <em>you</em> about it.
<br> <br>
Interestingly, when I was in Germany, many people I hung out with constantly complained about "repressive American political correctness" while also failing to notice that American 1st Amendment freedoms are much stronger than the German equivalent.  There's definitely a bit of a different philosophy at work there (e.g., most Germans I met are not as optimistic as Americans when it comes to populist regimes), but with regard to how, exactly that differs, I have not been able to put my finger on it.  Maybe a German reader would care to comment.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been to Germany a number of times , and had a long-term relationship with a woman living there .
I met a lot of Germans .
I would n't say that modern Germans are 'in denial'-- really , people 's reactions run the gamut .
But what is true , is that everyone there has a strong opinion on the matter .
Many people have a deep sense of shame about it-- after all , in many cases the people who perpetrated the atrocities of WWII were parents or grandparents .
Some people had nothing to do with that part of the past , or are descendents of victims , and they feel that the German people are wrongly villified .
A minority-- and unfortunately , these people are growing in number-- think that the whole Holocaust thing is revisionist history .
It 's not that people do n't talk about it , but it is a very sensitive issue , even among Germans , and so you 'd understand if they do n't want to talk to you about it .
Interestingly , when I was in Germany , many people I hung out with constantly complained about " repressive American political correctness " while also failing to notice that American 1st Amendment freedoms are much stronger than the German equivalent .
There 's definitely a bit of a different philosophy at work there ( e.g. , most Germans I met are not as optimistic as Americans when it comes to populist regimes ) , but with regard to how , exactly that differs , I have not been able to put my finger on it .
Maybe a German reader would care to comment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been to Germany a number of times, and had a long-term relationship with a woman living there.
I met a lot of Germans.
I wouldn't say that modern Germans are 'in denial'-- really, people's reactions run the gamut.
But what is true, is that everyone there has a strong opinion on the matter.
Many people have a deep sense of shame about it-- after all, in many cases the people who perpetrated the atrocities of WWII were parents or grandparents.
Some people had nothing to do with that part of the past, or are descendents of victims, and they feel that the German people are wrongly villified.
A minority-- and unfortunately, these people are growing in number-- think that the whole Holocaust thing is revisionist history.
It's not that people don't talk about it, but it is a very sensitive issue, even among Germans, and so you'd understand if they don't want to talk to you about it.
Interestingly, when I was in Germany, many people I hung out with constantly complained about "repressive American political correctness" while also failing to notice that American 1st Amendment freedoms are much stronger than the German equivalent.
There's definitely a bit of a different philosophy at work there (e.g., most Germans I met are not as optimistic as Americans when it comes to populist regimes), but with regard to how, exactly that differs, I have not been able to put my finger on it.
Maybe a German reader would care to comment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30124900</id>
	<title>Nazi symbol</title>
	<author>KamuZ</author>
	<datestamp>1258383720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As far as i know, displaying Nazi symbols is ILLEGAL in Germany.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As far as i know , displaying Nazi symbols is ILLEGAL in Germany .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As far as i know, displaying Nazi symbols is ILLEGAL in Germany.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120862</id>
	<title>Re:Sad</title>
	<author>pdabbadabba</author>
	<datestamp>1258363560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It must be so awful to be a major nuclear power and yet be so terrified of any kind of real or imagined insult.</p></div><p>It's actually pretty awful for the rest of us too when you think about it...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It must be so awful to be a major nuclear power and yet be so terrified of any kind of real or imagined insult.It 's actually pretty awful for the rest of us too when you think about it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It must be so awful to be a major nuclear power and yet be so terrified of any kind of real or imagined insult.It's actually pretty awful for the rest of us too when you think about it...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120396</id>
	<title>Re:Sad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258404840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given that this in on the tail end of a senior police officer going all youtube about corruption... i'd say its a politically charged subject.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given that this in on the tail end of a senior police officer going all youtube about corruption... i 'd say its a politically charged subject .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given that this in on the tail end of a senior police officer going all youtube about corruption... i'd say its a politically charged subject.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120700</id>
	<title>Re:Have they played the mission?</title>
	<author>tsstahl</author>
	<datestamp>1258362840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ah, jeeze, ITSA GAME!!!!.  When I turned all the monsters in Doom II to Barneys, what message was I sending to my yet unborn children?
<br> <br>
Now I'm going to buy it just so I can shoot whatever looks shootable and post screenies in order to destabilize the world!  MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
<br> <br>
Might as well jump on the ludicrous bandwagon for fun since the games are now all off limits for fun.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah , jeeze , ITSA GAME ! ! ! ! .
When I turned all the monsters in Doom II to Barneys , what message was I sending to my yet unborn children ?
Now I 'm going to buy it just so I can shoot whatever looks shootable and post screenies in order to destabilize the world !
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA . Might as well jump on the ludicrous bandwagon for fun since the games are now all off limits for fun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah, jeeze, ITSA GAME!!!!.
When I turned all the monsters in Doom II to Barneys, what message was I sending to my yet unborn children?
Now I'm going to buy it just so I can shoot whatever looks shootable and post screenies in order to destabilize the world!
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
 
Might as well jump on the ludicrous bandwagon for fun since the games are now all off limits for fun.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30123702</id>
	<title>Nazis</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258375020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>" Not too long ago, Wolfenstein was recalled in Germany for containing Nazi symbols."</p><p>It's illegal to have Nazi symbols in Germany had nothing to do with the Game. Call of Duty and Medal of Honor Eliminate Swastikas from German Copies of the Game</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Not too long ago , Wolfenstein was recalled in Germany for containing Nazi symbols .
" It 's illegal to have Nazi symbols in Germany had nothing to do with the Game .
Call of Duty and Medal of Honor Eliminate Swastikas from German Copies of the Game</tokentext>
<sentencetext>" Not too long ago, Wolfenstein was recalled in Germany for containing Nazi symbols.
"It's illegal to have Nazi symbols in Germany had nothing to do with the Game.
Call of Duty and Medal of Honor Eliminate Swastikas from German Copies of the Game</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120274</id>
	<title>Re:Sad</title>
	<author>RiotingPacifist</author>
	<datestamp>1258404480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Trying and stop people seeing a statement saying that image matters, because it's "offensive"* to Americans, guess your irony meter is off this year slashdot.</p><p>*As i can't trust mods to not be retards I'll point out the "offensive" statement was meant to be an example of a perceived image.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Trying and stop people seeing a statement saying that image matters , because it 's " offensive " * to Americans , guess your irony meter is off this year slashdot .
* As i ca n't trust mods to not be retards I 'll point out the " offensive " statement was meant to be an example of a perceived image .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Trying and stop people seeing a statement saying that image matters, because it's "offensive"* to Americans, guess your irony meter is off this year slashdot.
*As i can't trust mods to not be retards I'll point out the "offensive" statement was meant to be an example of a perceived image.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118802</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30121528</id>
	<title>Maybe the gaming world is catching up to</title>
	<author>Presto Vivace</author>
	<datestamp>1258366320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>everyone else.
<em> Is cultural sensitivity becoming an overly played card in the gaming world?</em>
no.</htmltext>
<tokenext>everyone else .
Is cultural sensitivity becoming an overly played card in the gaming world ?
no .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>everyone else.
Is cultural sensitivity becoming an overly played card in the gaming world?
no.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30128168</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258469220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why shouldn't we have been sitting on our rears eating bon-bons?  You think it's the job of the United States to intervene in foreign wars?  We did that in WW1 and got nothing out of it -- our supposed Allies ignored Wilson's plan for a just and fair peace and imposed draconian terms on Germany that set the stage for WW2.  Then they defaulted on their wartime debts to the US.  With that bit of history in mind perhaps it's easier to understand why the US had a strong isolationist sentiment in the 30s?</p></div><p>The United States didn't 'intervene' in the Great War, per se.  Although the, "Our poor English friends!" rhetoric was quick to come out once war had been decided upon, it really didn't have much to do with the decision itself.</p><p>The US entered WWI because Wilson put American credibility on the line in threatening Germany over the issue of submarine warfare.  Wilson had made very blunt and very public statements over American deaths in German submarine attacks---sufficiently blunt that his Secretary of State resigned over the likelihood of war.  Prior to the use of unrestricted submarine warfare, popular sentiment in the US had been mixed---and before the war itself, most politicians considered war with Britain to be reasonably likely, but war with Germany unthinkable.</p><p>The Germans, for their part, considered the American threat credible, but didn't view abandonment of the submarine war as a viable option.  It has to be recalled that the U-Boats very nearly did drive the British out of the war in 1916.  At one point, Britain only had food reserves for a few days.</p><p>By the time the Americans entered the war in 1917, the Germans knew everything was riding on the events of the coming spring---that they would either break the Entente powers' wills, or they would be forced to surrender.  To give an idea of how bad things were in Germany, by the time the Americans entered, the only bedsheets available legally on the German civilian market were made of paper.</p><p>So the Germans called Wilson's bluff, knowing he'd make good on his threats, but also knowing it wouldn't affect the outcome of the war one way or the other.</p><p>So, to get back to what you said: "...our supposed Allies ignored Wilson's plan for a just and fair peace and imposed draconian terms on Germany..."  And why not?  The war was decided before the first American boots set foot in France, and the Entente powers knew it.  America was a day late, a dollar short, and in it for her own interests, not because the British and French were our allies---they weren't.  Wilson tried to strongarm the British and French on the strength of the loans the US had made, tried to capitalize on the fact that his country, unlike theirs, was virtually unscathed.</p><p>By the by, those wartime debts they defaulted on---that was during the Great Depression.  And the reason they defaulted was because Germany default on the reparations payments to them.  Interestingly, the French and British made an offer to President Hoover in, I believe, 1930.  They offered to forgive Germany's reparations debts to them, if the US would forgive their debts.  The German debts to France and Britain were several times larger than the French and British debts to the US.  Hoover refused the offer (on laissez-faire grounds; they had mostly been made by private banks,) and continued to put the squeeze on the still war-torn British and French, who continued to put the squeeze on the Weimar Republic.  Unable to repay the US without the German reparations, the British and French squeezed till Weimar was dry.  And when Weimar was dry, crippled, and bleeding, they defaulted.</p><p>So if you'd like to lay blame for WWII on the feet of the Versailles reparations---feel free, but remember that the British and French saw what was happening and tried to stop it.  It was Herbert Hoover who, ultimately, put the screws to Weimar.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Why should n't we have been sitting on our rears eating bon-bons ?
You think it 's the job of the United States to intervene in foreign wars ?
We did that in WW1 and got nothing out of it -- our supposed Allies ignored Wilson 's plan for a just and fair peace and imposed draconian terms on Germany that set the stage for WW2 .
Then they defaulted on their wartime debts to the US .
With that bit of history in mind perhaps it 's easier to understand why the US had a strong isolationist sentiment in the 30s ? The United States did n't 'intervene ' in the Great War , per se .
Although the , " Our poor English friends !
" rhetoric was quick to come out once war had been decided upon , it really did n't have much to do with the decision itself.The US entered WWI because Wilson put American credibility on the line in threatening Germany over the issue of submarine warfare .
Wilson had made very blunt and very public statements over American deaths in German submarine attacks---sufficiently blunt that his Secretary of State resigned over the likelihood of war .
Prior to the use of unrestricted submarine warfare , popular sentiment in the US had been mixed---and before the war itself , most politicians considered war with Britain to be reasonably likely , but war with Germany unthinkable.The Germans , for their part , considered the American threat credible , but did n't view abandonment of the submarine war as a viable option .
It has to be recalled that the U-Boats very nearly did drive the British out of the war in 1916 .
At one point , Britain only had food reserves for a few days.By the time the Americans entered the war in 1917 , the Germans knew everything was riding on the events of the coming spring---that they would either break the Entente powers ' wills , or they would be forced to surrender .
To give an idea of how bad things were in Germany , by the time the Americans entered , the only bedsheets available legally on the German civilian market were made of paper.So the Germans called Wilson 's bluff , knowing he 'd make good on his threats , but also knowing it would n't affect the outcome of the war one way or the other.So , to get back to what you said : " ...our supposed Allies ignored Wilson 's plan for a just and fair peace and imposed draconian terms on Germany... " And why not ?
The war was decided before the first American boots set foot in France , and the Entente powers knew it .
America was a day late , a dollar short , and in it for her own interests , not because the British and French were our allies---they were n't .
Wilson tried to strongarm the British and French on the strength of the loans the US had made , tried to capitalize on the fact that his country , unlike theirs , was virtually unscathed.By the by , those wartime debts they defaulted on---that was during the Great Depression .
And the reason they defaulted was because Germany default on the reparations payments to them .
Interestingly , the French and British made an offer to President Hoover in , I believe , 1930 .
They offered to forgive Germany 's reparations debts to them , if the US would forgive their debts .
The German debts to France and Britain were several times larger than the French and British debts to the US .
Hoover refused the offer ( on laissez-faire grounds ; they had mostly been made by private banks , ) and continued to put the squeeze on the still war-torn British and French , who continued to put the squeeze on the Weimar Republic .
Unable to repay the US without the German reparations , the British and French squeezed till Weimar was dry .
And when Weimar was dry , crippled , and bleeding , they defaulted.So if you 'd like to lay blame for WWII on the feet of the Versailles reparations---feel free , but remember that the British and French saw what was happening and tried to stop it .
It was Herbert Hoover who , ultimately , put the screws to Weimar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why shouldn't we have been sitting on our rears eating bon-bons?
You think it's the job of the United States to intervene in foreign wars?
We did that in WW1 and got nothing out of it -- our supposed Allies ignored Wilson's plan for a just and fair peace and imposed draconian terms on Germany that set the stage for WW2.
Then they defaulted on their wartime debts to the US.
With that bit of history in mind perhaps it's easier to understand why the US had a strong isolationist sentiment in the 30s?The United States didn't 'intervene' in the Great War, per se.
Although the, "Our poor English friends!
" rhetoric was quick to come out once war had been decided upon, it really didn't have much to do with the decision itself.The US entered WWI because Wilson put American credibility on the line in threatening Germany over the issue of submarine warfare.
Wilson had made very blunt and very public statements over American deaths in German submarine attacks---sufficiently blunt that his Secretary of State resigned over the likelihood of war.
Prior to the use of unrestricted submarine warfare, popular sentiment in the US had been mixed---and before the war itself, most politicians considered war with Britain to be reasonably likely, but war with Germany unthinkable.The Germans, for their part, considered the American threat credible, but didn't view abandonment of the submarine war as a viable option.
It has to be recalled that the U-Boats very nearly did drive the British out of the war in 1916.
At one point, Britain only had food reserves for a few days.By the time the Americans entered the war in 1917, the Germans knew everything was riding on the events of the coming spring---that they would either break the Entente powers' wills, or they would be forced to surrender.
To give an idea of how bad things were in Germany, by the time the Americans entered, the only bedsheets available legally on the German civilian market were made of paper.So the Germans called Wilson's bluff, knowing he'd make good on his threats, but also knowing it wouldn't affect the outcome of the war one way or the other.So, to get back to what you said: "...our supposed Allies ignored Wilson's plan for a just and fair peace and imposed draconian terms on Germany..."  And why not?
The war was decided before the first American boots set foot in France, and the Entente powers knew it.
America was a day late, a dollar short, and in it for her own interests, not because the British and French were our allies---they weren't.
Wilson tried to strongarm the British and French on the strength of the loans the US had made, tried to capitalize on the fact that his country, unlike theirs, was virtually unscathed.By the by, those wartime debts they defaulted on---that was during the Great Depression.
And the reason they defaulted was because Germany default on the reparations payments to them.
Interestingly, the French and British made an offer to President Hoover in, I believe, 1930.
They offered to forgive Germany's reparations debts to them, if the US would forgive their debts.
The German debts to France and Britain were several times larger than the French and British debts to the US.
Hoover refused the offer (on laissez-faire grounds; they had mostly been made by private banks,) and continued to put the squeeze on the still war-torn British and French, who continued to put the squeeze on the Weimar Republic.
Unable to repay the US without the German reparations, the British and French squeezed till Weimar was dry.
And when Weimar was dry, crippled, and bleeding, they defaulted.So if you'd like to lay blame for WWII on the feet of the Versailles reparations---feel free, but remember that the British and French saw what was happening and tried to stop it.
It was Herbert Hoover who, ultimately, put the screws to Weimar.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120298</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>DavidTC</author>
	<datestamp>1258404540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oddly enough, that's how I play Civ 4.</p><p>
Before invading a country, I make demands from it. Starting with the reasonable, and then getting increasing unreasonable. And then I invade anyway.</p><p>
I am Hitlereque.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oddly enough , that 's how I play Civ 4 .
Before invading a country , I make demands from it .
Starting with the reasonable , and then getting increasing unreasonable .
And then I invade anyway .
I am Hitlereque .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oddly enough, that's how I play Civ 4.
Before invading a country, I make demands from it.
Starting with the reasonable, and then getting increasing unreasonable.
And then I invade anyway.
I am Hitlereque.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30121080</id>
	<title>Re:And yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258364460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Same goes for film and television. I'm pretty certain there are more than a few books that have been forcefully edited or blacklisted for content in the past too.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>This isn't new, just the same old censorship assaults applied to another medium. It's fictional people, and I'm sure I could find much more horrific game content out there. Anyone remember Postal 1 and 2? You could dump gas on civilians, light them on fire, watch them run around and then have the option to piss on them to put out the flames or not. You could also beat animals. How about some of the gang-fiction games where you could beat and violate women, steal, sell and do drugs, and more?</p><p>I think Russia needs to lighten up. If they want sentiment like this to not be linked to them they should continue on their path of being a more inviting country internationally. More tourism, national parks/preserves, and respect for their people would be a great place to start. If you haven't watched the National Geographic series Wild Russia that was recently released I recommend it. There is some very interesting territory that is seldom shown to the rest of the world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Same goes for film and television .
I 'm pretty certain there are more than a few books that have been forcefully edited or blacklisted for content in the past too .
: ) This is n't new , just the same old censorship assaults applied to another medium .
It 's fictional people , and I 'm sure I could find much more horrific game content out there .
Anyone remember Postal 1 and 2 ?
You could dump gas on civilians , light them on fire , watch them run around and then have the option to piss on them to put out the flames or not .
You could also beat animals .
How about some of the gang-fiction games where you could beat and violate women , steal , sell and do drugs , and more ? I think Russia needs to lighten up .
If they want sentiment like this to not be linked to them they should continue on their path of being a more inviting country internationally .
More tourism , national parks/preserves , and respect for their people would be a great place to start .
If you have n't watched the National Geographic series Wild Russia that was recently released I recommend it .
There is some very interesting territory that is seldom shown to the rest of the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Same goes for film and television.
I'm pretty certain there are more than a few books that have been forcefully edited or blacklisted for content in the past too.
:)This isn't new, just the same old censorship assaults applied to another medium.
It's fictional people, and I'm sure I could find much more horrific game content out there.
Anyone remember Postal 1 and 2?
You could dump gas on civilians, light them on fire, watch them run around and then have the option to piss on them to put out the flames or not.
You could also beat animals.
How about some of the gang-fiction games where you could beat and violate women, steal, sell and do drugs, and more?I think Russia needs to lighten up.
If they want sentiment like this to not be linked to them they should continue on their path of being a more inviting country internationally.
More tourism, national parks/preserves, and respect for their people would be a great place to start.
If you haven't watched the National Geographic series Wild Russia that was recently released I recommend it.
There is some very interesting territory that is seldom shown to the rest of the world.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119176</id>
	<title>Quite a simple solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258401120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Release an alternative mission that involves first going into an American school and massacring the schoolkids, then by chance stumbling upon the president out on a jog and killing him, who happens to be Obama.</p><p>-5billion flamebait.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Release an alternative mission that involves first going into an American school and massacring the schoolkids , then by chance stumbling upon the president out on a jog and killing him , who happens to be Obama.-5billion flamebait .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Release an alternative mission that involves first going into an American school and massacring the schoolkids, then by chance stumbling upon the president out on a jog and killing him, who happens to be Obama.-5billion flamebait.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30134024</id>
	<title>Re:As a Russian</title>
	<author>masterQba</author>
	<datestamp>1258449660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>SPOILER ALERT
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<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
As a Pole I can say that our two countries had a difficult history. Some of it good some of it bad. Russians killed many Poles, many Russians were killed by Poles. But on the whole I would say that both our peoples are very close (if not for the stereotypes). And that's the point of MW2. It's very antiwar in my opinion. Of course it makes war out to be cool and fun, with gadgets, new weapons, special effects high speed chases. If you stop for a moment and look past the graphics and the action you see the dead bodies lying in the streets, the burns, the wounds, the property damage. In MW2 everyone is guilty, every nation portrayed has done something questionable in the name of a "grander" cause. But also members of those nations have done some good things. The game shows us that behind monolithic nations stand people, people that make decisions, take actions. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. There's no clear cut difference that Russians are bad and Americans are good or vice versa. MW2's main antagonist is American after all (at least in my opinion).
<br>
I have to agree that the US Ranger parts are overly positive and idealistic in nature.</htmltext>
<tokenext>SPOILER ALERT As a Pole I can say that our two countries had a difficult history .
Some of it good some of it bad .
Russians killed many Poles , many Russians were killed by Poles .
But on the whole I would say that both our peoples are very close ( if not for the stereotypes ) .
And that 's the point of MW2 .
It 's very antiwar in my opinion .
Of course it makes war out to be cool and fun , with gadgets , new weapons , special effects high speed chases .
If you stop for a moment and look past the graphics and the action you see the dead bodies lying in the streets , the burns , the wounds , the property damage .
In MW2 everyone is guilty , every nation portrayed has done something questionable in the name of a " grander " cause .
But also members of those nations have done some good things .
The game shows us that behind monolithic nations stand people , people that make decisions , take actions .
Sometimes good , sometimes bad .
There 's no clear cut difference that Russians are bad and Americans are good or vice versa .
MW2 's main antagonist is American after all ( at least in my opinion ) .
I have to agree that the US Ranger parts are overly positive and idealistic in nature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SPOILER ALERT





As a Pole I can say that our two countries had a difficult history.
Some of it good some of it bad.
Russians killed many Poles, many Russians were killed by Poles.
But on the whole I would say that both our peoples are very close (if not for the stereotypes).
And that's the point of MW2.
It's very antiwar in my opinion.
Of course it makes war out to be cool and fun, with gadgets, new weapons, special effects high speed chases.
If you stop for a moment and look past the graphics and the action you see the dead bodies lying in the streets, the burns, the wounds, the property damage.
In MW2 everyone is guilty, every nation portrayed has done something questionable in the name of a "grander" cause.
But also members of those nations have done some good things.
The game shows us that behind monolithic nations stand people, people that make decisions, take actions.
Sometimes good, sometimes bad.
There's no clear cut difference that Russians are bad and Americans are good or vice versa.
MW2's main antagonist is American after all (at least in my opinion).
I have to agree that the US Ranger parts are overly positive and idealistic in nature.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30121354</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>BForrester</author>
	<datestamp>1258365540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've visited Germany a few times, and you can hardly walk to the corner store without tripping over a holocaust museum.  The people will generally express their communal embarrassment over this sad part of their history, and the government has gone to great lengths to both preserve the memory of this atrocity, and to make repayments where still possible.  Nazi paraphernalia is forbidden there because they do not want Nazism to be glorified or take root again, not because they want to sweep the past under the rug.</p><p>That contrasts *very* sharply with other countries I've been to in Europe.</p><p>Your teacher either had some sort of grudge to bear, or is an idiot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've visited Germany a few times , and you can hardly walk to the corner store without tripping over a holocaust museum .
The people will generally express their communal embarrassment over this sad part of their history , and the government has gone to great lengths to both preserve the memory of this atrocity , and to make repayments where still possible .
Nazi paraphernalia is forbidden there because they do not want Nazism to be glorified or take root again , not because they want to sweep the past under the rug.That contrasts * very * sharply with other countries I 've been to in Europe.Your teacher either had some sort of grudge to bear , or is an idiot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've visited Germany a few times, and you can hardly walk to the corner store without tripping over a holocaust museum.
The people will generally express their communal embarrassment over this sad part of their history, and the government has gone to great lengths to both preserve the memory of this atrocity, and to make repayments where still possible.
Nazi paraphernalia is forbidden there because they do not want Nazism to be glorified or take root again, not because they want to sweep the past under the rug.That contrasts *very* sharply with other countries I've been to in Europe.Your teacher either had some sort of grudge to bear, or is an idiot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119518</id>
	<title>Re:They Couldn't See this Coming?</title>
	<author>Lehk228</author>
	<datestamp>1258402140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>the game engine doens't have to support it, just ship different editions.</htmltext>
<tokenext>the game engine doens't have to support it , just ship different editions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the game engine doens't have to support it, just ship different editions.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30123296</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258372980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everyone should just do things the American way because it is the right way to do things.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone should just do things the American way because it is the right way to do things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone should just do things the American way because it is the right way to do things.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30129458</id>
	<title>Re:As a Russian</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258475940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd call Nikolaj a "good russian". Besides, the reasons stated for the invasion are quite reasonable (i.e. american involvment in the largest massacre ever).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd call Nikolaj a " good russian " .
Besides , the reasons stated for the invasion are quite reasonable ( i.e .
american involvment in the largest massacre ever ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd call Nikolaj a "good russian".
Besides, the reasons stated for the invasion are quite reasonable (i.e.
american involvment in the largest massacre ever).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120686</id>
	<title>Remember Six Days in Fallujah</title>
	<author>SilentStaid</author>
	<datestamp>1258362780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>To answer the general question everyone asked about what would happen if this mission had been about Americans I'll refer you to Six Days in Fallujah. One of the severely downplayed (though not the biggest) reasons that game was shelved was due to the amount of civilian casualties caused by Americans in their hunt for insurgents.<br> <br>

<a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/04/fallujahkonamicancel.html" title="latimes.com" rel="nofollow">http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/04/fallujahkonamicancel.html</a> [latimes.com] <br>
"Reports claim that up to 6000 civilians died throughout the operation." - <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second\_Battle\_of\_Fallujah" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second\_Battle\_of\_Fallujah</a> [wikipedia.org] <br> <br>

That being said, I realize that the situations are only relatively similar but they clearly favor the argument stating that such a game made about America wouldn't make it financially speaking. As for it being outright banned or recalled, doubtful.</htmltext>
<tokenext>To answer the general question everyone asked about what would happen if this mission had been about Americans I 'll refer you to Six Days in Fallujah .
One of the severely downplayed ( though not the biggest ) reasons that game was shelved was due to the amount of civilian casualties caused by Americans in their hunt for insurgents .
http : //latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/04/fallujahkonamicancel.html [ latimes.com ] " Reports claim that up to 6000 civilians died throughout the operation .
" - http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second \ _Battle \ _of \ _Fallujah [ wikipedia.org ] That being said , I realize that the situations are only relatively similar but they clearly favor the argument stating that such a game made about America would n't make it financially speaking .
As for it being outright banned or recalled , doubtful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To answer the general question everyone asked about what would happen if this mission had been about Americans I'll refer you to Six Days in Fallujah.
One of the severely downplayed (though not the biggest) reasons that game was shelved was due to the amount of civilian casualties caused by Americans in their hunt for insurgents.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/04/fallujahkonamicancel.html [latimes.com] 
"Reports claim that up to 6000 civilians died throughout the operation.
" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second\_Battle\_of\_Fallujah [wikipedia.org]  

That being said, I realize that the situations are only relatively similar but they clearly favor the argument stating that such a game made about America wouldn't make it financially speaking.
As for it being outright banned or recalled, doubtful.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119332</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>CorporateSuit</author>
	<datestamp>1258401480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, it comes down to a difference of philosophy on how to build a brighter future.  While Americans profess "We must learn from History, lest it repeat itself." -- Germany argues "We must not learn from History, lest someone get ideas on how to repeat it."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , it comes down to a difference of philosophy on how to build a brighter future .
While Americans profess " We must learn from History , lest it repeat itself .
" -- Germany argues " We must not learn from History , lest someone get ideas on how to repeat it .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, it comes down to a difference of philosophy on how to build a brighter future.
While Americans profess "We must learn from History, lest it repeat itself.
" -- Germany argues "We must not learn from History, lest someone get ideas on how to repeat it.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118806</id>
	<title>Re:Sad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258400040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't suppose you have any evidence that this would happen.  I do love how people basically invent scenarios to justify some countries detesting of liberty.  Actually I don't, because it shows your dishonesty.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't suppose you have any evidence that this would happen .
I do love how people basically invent scenarios to justify some countries detesting of liberty .
Actually I do n't , because it shows your dishonesty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't suppose you have any evidence that this would happen.
I do love how people basically invent scenarios to justify some countries detesting of liberty.
Actually I don't, because it shows your dishonesty.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118888</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258400280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yea, right, not so fast. There are plenty of juicy facts showing brave russian warriors saving innocent people.</p><p>By the way, most of you will be more than surprised, after seeing this movie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebellion:\_the\_Litvinenko\_Case</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yea , right , not so fast .
There are plenty of juicy facts showing brave russian warriors saving innocent people.By the way , most of you will be more than surprised , after seeing this movie http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebellion : \ _the \ _Litvinenko \ _Case</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yea, right, not so fast.
There are plenty of juicy facts showing brave russian warriors saving innocent people.By the way, most of you will be more than surprised, after seeing this movie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebellion:\_the\_Litvinenko\_Case</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30122526</id>
	<title>Re:Swastika's are a legal issue.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258369560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I recognize the horrors of my own country and we will forever keep things like slavery and repression in general in front and center of our attention -- a mandatory history lesson -- so that we never repeat those mistakes.</p></div><p>Because it's not like we still have people that wave Confederate flags around and bluster about them niggers.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I recognize the horrors of my own country and we will forever keep things like slavery and repression in general in front and center of our attention -- a mandatory history lesson -- so that we never repeat those mistakes.Because it 's not like we still have people that wave Confederate flags around and bluster about them niggers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recognize the horrors of my own country and we will forever keep things like slavery and repression in general in front and center of our attention -- a mandatory history lesson -- so that we never repeat those mistakes.Because it's not like we still have people that wave Confederate flags around and bluster about them niggers.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120432</id>
	<title>Re:Have they played the mission?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258404960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you had them killing American vets it would get censored.  Vets are now sacred cows in the US.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you had them killing American vets it would get censored .
Vets are now sacred cows in the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you had them killing American vets it would get censored.
Vets are now sacred cows in the US.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30125586</id>
	<title>Re:CoD6: Vietnam</title>
	<author>nametaken</author>
	<datestamp>1258390560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really?  I didn't take that from it at all.  I took from it that an American was the real bad guy. Even if that weren't the case, it didn't seem like it would otherwise correlate in any meaningful way.  In the game it's Russians killing Russians and framing the Americans... all to start a war between super powers.  9/11 was a group of batshit insane non-Americans killing Americans (and other non-Americans I'm sure) and specifically claiming credit for it.  Did they say it was some kind of goofy statement about Afghanistan and Iraq?  Because that doesn't seem to make any sense.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really ?
I did n't take that from it at all .
I took from it that an American was the real bad guy .
Even if that were n't the case , it did n't seem like it would otherwise correlate in any meaningful way .
In the game it 's Russians killing Russians and framing the Americans... all to start a war between super powers .
9/11 was a group of batshit insane non-Americans killing Americans ( and other non-Americans I 'm sure ) and specifically claiming credit for it .
Did they say it was some kind of goofy statement about Afghanistan and Iraq ?
Because that does n't seem to make any sense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really?
I didn't take that from it at all.
I took from it that an American was the real bad guy.
Even if that weren't the case, it didn't seem like it would otherwise correlate in any meaningful way.
In the game it's Russians killing Russians and framing the Americans... all to start a war between super powers.
9/11 was a group of batshit insane non-Americans killing Americans (and other non-Americans I'm sure) and specifically claiming credit for it.
Did they say it was some kind of goofy statement about Afghanistan and Iraq?
Because that doesn't seem to make any sense.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118576</id>
	<title>What goes around never comes back?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258399260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Would you play the Jihad Freedom Fighter game that one day demonizes the US?</p><p>Having played through and beaten the game. I don't think anyone comes away with their hands clean. The games name is "Modern Warfare" and it's dirty, gritty and cold blooded.</p><p>Grand theft Auto I - IV never left me questioning anything I did because of the comedic gameplay. This game did.</p><p>I don't think they should mess with the content but I do think they should have said something about it. Politely, formally, respectively. I mean this is Russia: if they can't pirate it, who will?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would you play the Jihad Freedom Fighter game that one day demonizes the US ? Having played through and beaten the game .
I do n't think anyone comes away with their hands clean .
The games name is " Modern Warfare " and it 's dirty , gritty and cold blooded.Grand theft Auto I - IV never left me questioning anything I did because of the comedic gameplay .
This game did.I do n't think they should mess with the content but I do think they should have said something about it .
Politely , formally , respectively .
I mean this is Russia : if they ca n't pirate it , who will ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would you play the Jihad Freedom Fighter game that one day demonizes the US?Having played through and beaten the game.
I don't think anyone comes away with their hands clean.
The games name is "Modern Warfare" and it's dirty, gritty and cold blooded.Grand theft Auto I - IV never left me questioning anything I did because of the comedic gameplay.
This game did.I don't think they should mess with the content but I do think they should have said something about it.
Politely, formally, respectively.
I mean this is Russia: if they can't pirate it, who will?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120364</id>
	<title>Re:Not so fast..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258404780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course, the Americans have to take a lot of responsibility for that, because right up until 1944 they were shipping steel to Nazi Germany. In fact, Operation Barbarossa was specifically delayed until after those final steel shipments. It's one of the great ironies of the War that a lot of equipment thrown into the invasion of Russia was made using American steel. In 1945, the Treasury Department revealed to congress that United Steel produced the following percentages of war munitions for the Nazis: Pig iron 50.8\%; Pipe &amp; tubes 45.5\%; Universal plate 41.4\%; Galvanised sheet 38.5\%; Heavy plate 36\%; Explosives 35\%; Wire 22.1\%. This is the same firm Prescott Bush acted, as banker for. In effect, Prescott was Hitler&rsquo;s American banker.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , the Americans have to take a lot of responsibility for that , because right up until 1944 they were shipping steel to Nazi Germany .
In fact , Operation Barbarossa was specifically delayed until after those final steel shipments .
It 's one of the great ironies of the War that a lot of equipment thrown into the invasion of Russia was made using American steel .
In 1945 , the Treasury Department revealed to congress that United Steel produced the following percentages of war munitions for the Nazis : Pig iron 50.8 \ % ; Pipe &amp; tubes 45.5 \ % ; Universal plate 41.4 \ % ; Galvanised sheet 38.5 \ % ; Heavy plate 36 \ % ; Explosives 35 \ % ; Wire 22.1 \ % .
This is the same firm Prescott Bush acted , as banker for .
In effect , Prescott was Hitler    s American banker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, the Americans have to take a lot of responsibility for that, because right up until 1944 they were shipping steel to Nazi Germany.
In fact, Operation Barbarossa was specifically delayed until after those final steel shipments.
It's one of the great ironies of the War that a lot of equipment thrown into the invasion of Russia was made using American steel.
In 1945, the Treasury Department revealed to congress that United Steel produced the following percentages of war munitions for the Nazis: Pig iron 50.8\%; Pipe &amp; tubes 45.5\%; Universal plate 41.4\%; Galvanised sheet 38.5\%; Heavy plate 36\%; Explosives 35\%; Wire 22.1\%.
This is the same firm Prescott Bush acted, as banker for.
In effect, Prescott was Hitler’s American banker.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118562</id>
	<title>The countries</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1258399260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The fact that the games existed in order to be recalled shows that the issue is with the countries, not with the gaming world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The fact that the games existed in order to be recalled shows that the issue is with the countries , not with the gaming world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fact that the games existed in order to be recalled shows that the issue is with the countries, not with the gaming world.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119442</id>
	<title>Don't forget Poland</title>
	<author>mobby\_6kl</author>
	<datestamp>1258401900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to mention how buddy-buddy they were with each other when it came to taking a bite out of Poland. If Hitler wasn't so retardedly ambitious, the whole of Eurasia, Africa, and probably some other parts of the world would be Germany, Russia/USSR, and Japan now. Or maybe not, as the empires would probably fall apart on their own, but that's not the point.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention how buddy-buddy they were with each other when it came to taking a bite out of Poland .
If Hitler was n't so retardedly ambitious , the whole of Eurasia , Africa , and probably some other parts of the world would be Germany , Russia/USSR , and Japan now .
Or maybe not , as the empires would probably fall apart on their own , but that 's not the point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention how buddy-buddy they were with each other when it came to taking a bite out of Poland.
If Hitler wasn't so retardedly ambitious, the whole of Eurasia, Africa, and probably some other parts of the world would be Germany, Russia/USSR, and Japan now.
Or maybe not, as the empires would probably fall apart on their own, but that's not the point.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30119056</id>
	<title>mw2 doesn't portray russians as terrorists</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258400760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just to be clear -- mw2 does NOT portray russians as terrorists.<br>It portrays one guy in particular, who happens to be russian, as a<br>a terrorist.   He happens to slaughter a bunch of civilians (along with<br>the american CIA mole) and pins it on the US, which leads the<br>russians into a conventional war against the US.  This is (with<br>the exception of the terrorist framing a major government) entirely<br>analagous to the US going into Afghanistan after 9/11.</p><p>the "no russian" mission is pretty hardcore violent, and you're<br>warned about it when you set up the game.</p><p>So I don't think anyone can justifiably say it portrays "russians"<br>negatively... in the context of the game, they're pretty justifiably<br>pissed off, not invading "as terrorists".</p><p>If anyone recalls the game for nastiness, I'd expect it to be for<br>the "no russian" mission purely because it's... hardcore violent.<br>I can't comment on the russian rationale for the recall, as TFA<br>is in russian.  The english articles citing it are gaming sites<br>citing other gaming sites, I don't see original English sources<br>explaining why the recall is happening.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just to be clear -- mw2 does NOT portray russians as terrorists.It portrays one guy in particular , who happens to be russian , as aa terrorist .
He happens to slaughter a bunch of civilians ( along withthe american CIA mole ) and pins it on the US , which leads therussians into a conventional war against the US .
This is ( withthe exception of the terrorist framing a major government ) entirelyanalagous to the US going into Afghanistan after 9/11.the " no russian " mission is pretty hardcore violent , and you'rewarned about it when you set up the game.So I do n't think anyone can justifiably say it portrays " russians " negatively... in the context of the game , they 're pretty justifiablypissed off , not invading " as terrorists " .If anyone recalls the game for nastiness , I 'd expect it to be forthe " no russian " mission purely because it 's... hardcore violent.I ca n't comment on the russian rationale for the recall , as TFAis in russian .
The english articles citing it are gaming sitesciting other gaming sites , I do n't see original English sourcesexplaining why the recall is happening .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just to be clear -- mw2 does NOT portray russians as terrorists.It portrays one guy in particular, who happens to be russian, as aa terrorist.
He happens to slaughter a bunch of civilians (along withthe american CIA mole) and pins it on the US, which leads therussians into a conventional war against the US.
This is (withthe exception of the terrorist framing a major government) entirelyanalagous to the US going into Afghanistan after 9/11.the "no russian" mission is pretty hardcore violent, and you'rewarned about it when you set up the game.So I don't think anyone can justifiably say it portrays "russians"negatively... in the context of the game, they're pretty justifiablypissed off, not invading "as terrorists".If anyone recalls the game for nastiness, I'd expect it to be forthe "no russian" mission purely because it's... hardcore violent.I can't comment on the russian rationale for the recall, as TFAis in russian.
The english articles citing it are gaming sitesciting other gaming sites, I don't see original English sourcesexplaining why the recall is happening.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120256</id>
	<title>Re:Germans and Wolfenstein ....</title>
	<author>theArtificial</author>
	<datestamp>1258404420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think you're confusing Germany with <a href="http://www.redorbit.com/news/general/145922/japan\_urged\_to\_reflect\_on\_wwii\_aggression/index.html" title="redorbit.com" rel="nofollow">Japan</a> [redorbit.com]. Japan gloss over their ww2 history with the atrocities they inflicted upon their neighbors and that is part of an on going problem to this day.<br> <br>The Germans do not have a culture of denial. Time is spent covering this theme although it varies from instructor to instructor what material is covered. On average I would say anywhere from 3 to 4 months is spent studying but it is not a tabu thema.<br> <br> <a href="http://www.amazon.de/Damals-Friedrich-Hans-Peter-Richter/dp/3423078006" title="amazon.de" rel="nofollow">Damals war es Friedrich</a> [amazon.de] is a book that is usually covered in class. The reason for the ban of symbols, greetings etc. are set in the constitution. Example: Imagine if you will that Democrats are outlawed - to be a member is illegal, the party is not official, the symbols are illegal. Fast forward 60 years and it becomes a big PC issue.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you 're confusing Germany with Japan [ redorbit.com ] .
Japan gloss over their ww2 history with the atrocities they inflicted upon their neighbors and that is part of an on going problem to this day .
The Germans do not have a culture of denial .
Time is spent covering this theme although it varies from instructor to instructor what material is covered .
On average I would say anywhere from 3 to 4 months is spent studying but it is not a tabu thema .
Damals war es Friedrich [ amazon.de ] is a book that is usually covered in class .
The reason for the ban of symbols , greetings etc .
are set in the constitution .
Example : Imagine if you will that Democrats are outlawed - to be a member is illegal , the party is not official , the symbols are illegal .
Fast forward 60 years and it becomes a big PC issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you're confusing Germany with Japan [redorbit.com].
Japan gloss over their ww2 history with the atrocities they inflicted upon their neighbors and that is part of an on going problem to this day.
The Germans do not have a culture of denial.
Time is spent covering this theme although it varies from instructor to instructor what material is covered.
On average I would say anywhere from 3 to 4 months is spent studying but it is not a tabu thema.
Damals war es Friedrich [amazon.de] is a book that is usually covered in class.
The reason for the ban of symbols, greetings etc.
are set in the constitution.
Example: Imagine if you will that Democrats are outlawed - to be a member is illegal, the party is not official, the symbols are illegal.
Fast forward 60 years and it becomes a big PC issue.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118722</id>
	<title>America gets it far worse</title>
	<author>mike260</author>
	<datestamp>1258399740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The US military spends half the game trying to recapture a Burger King and the other half trying not to bomb their own White House. At least the Russians get portrayed as *competent* terrorists.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The US military spends half the game trying to recapture a Burger King and the other half trying not to bomb their own White House .
At least the Russians get portrayed as * competent * terrorists .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The US military spends half the game trying to recapture a Burger King and the other half trying not to bomb their own White House.
At least the Russians get portrayed as *competent* terrorists.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120242</id>
	<title>Re:Have they played the mission?</title>
	<author>lavamunky</author>
	<datestamp>1258404420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually the mission shows British people about to torture someone. The British are NOT Americans</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually the mission shows British people about to torture someone .
The British are NOT Americans</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually the mission shows British people about to torture someone.
The British are NOT Americans</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30118746</id>
	<title>Stay Classy Russia</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258399800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It would have been nice if there were a discussion of the "demonizing" of Russians from a site in English- to hell with site translators.  I haven't played the game and don't really know if the game portrays all Russians as terrorists.  I'm fairly sure they would have been content to depict Muslim Chechens as all being terrorists though.  A Russian guy once told me about how Russian police(?) wrapped Chechen terrorists' corpses in pigskins to prevent their souls from escaping their bodies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would have been nice if there were a discussion of the " demonizing " of Russians from a site in English- to hell with site translators .
I have n't played the game and do n't really know if the game portrays all Russians as terrorists .
I 'm fairly sure they would have been content to depict Muslim Chechens as all being terrorists though .
A Russian guy once told me about how Russian police ( ?
) wrapped Chechen terrorists ' corpses in pigskins to prevent their souls from escaping their bodies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would have been nice if there were a discussion of the "demonizing" of Russians from a site in English- to hell with site translators.
I haven't played the game and don't really know if the game portrays all Russians as terrorists.
I'm fairly sure they would have been content to depict Muslim Chechens as all being terrorists though.
A Russian guy once told me about how Russian police(?
) wrapped Chechen terrorists' corpses in pigskins to prevent their souls from escaping their bodies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_16_1810230.30120690</id>
	<title>Re:Sad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258362840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER</p><p>To be fair, the mission is literally walking through a mall and slaughtering hundreds of innocent civilians.</p><p>Draw your own conclusions, but make sure you know that this is what they're complaining about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILERTo be fair , the mission is literally walking through a mall and slaughtering hundreds of innocent civilians.Draw your own conclusions , but make sure you know that this is what they 're complaining about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILERTo be fair, the mission is literally walking through a mall and slaughtering hundreds of innocent civilians.Draw your own conclusions, but make sure you know that this is what they're complaining about.</sentencetext>
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