<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_15_2032233</id>
	<title>"Mandelbulb," a 3D Mandlebrot Construct, Discovered</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1258287180000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>symbolset writes <i>"Many know the beauty and complexity of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot\_set">Mandelbrot set</a>. For some years now a few enterprising mathematicians / rendering fiends have been <a href="http://www.fractalforums.com/3d-fractal-generation/true-3d-mandlebrot-type-fractal/">seeking a true 3D Mandelbrot set</a>. A month ago <a href="http://www.skytopia.com/project/fractal/mandelbulb.html">a solution was found</a>, and it is awesome to behold."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>symbolset writes " Many know the beauty and complexity of the Mandelbrot set .
For some years now a few enterprising mathematicians / rendering fiends have been seeking a true 3D Mandelbrot set .
A month ago a solution was found , and it is awesome to behold .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>symbolset writes "Many know the beauty and complexity of the Mandelbrot set.
For some years now a few enterprising mathematicians / rendering fiends have been seeking a true 3D Mandelbrot set.
A month ago a solution was found, and it is awesome to behold.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30115404</id>
	<title>real-time Julia4D explorer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258387260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://www.cs.caltech.edu/~keenan/project\_qjulia.html<br>Have fun !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.cs.caltech.edu/ ~ keenan/project \ _qjulia.htmlHave fun !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.cs.caltech.edu/~keenan/project\_qjulia.htmlHave fun !</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112292</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111374</id>
	<title>a great leap forward</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1258300080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>for scientific screensaverology</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>for scientific screensaverology</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for scientific screensaverology</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30117606</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1258396380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even closing one eye, you can accurately determine the distance to an object, because even a 2D surface illuminated by anything other than a pinhole lense is picking up views of the subject from more than one position. With a single eye, you can sift through the multiple views by adjusting its focus.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even closing one eye , you can accurately determine the distance to an object , because even a 2D surface illuminated by anything other than a pinhole lense is picking up views of the subject from more than one position .
With a single eye , you can sift through the multiple views by adjusting its focus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even closing one eye, you can accurately determine the distance to an object, because even a 2D surface illuminated by anything other than a pinhole lense is picking up views of the subject from more than one position.
With a single eye, you can sift through the multiple views by adjusting its focus.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113042</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113236</id>
	<title>Formations on Solaris</title>
	<author>jimboindeutchland</author>
	<datestamp>1258366620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The images remind me of how Stanislaw Lem described the formations created by Solaris.  I better go and read it again.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The images remind me of how Stanislaw Lem described the formations created by Solaris .
I better go and read it again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The images remind me of how Stanislaw Lem described the formations created by Solaris.
I better go and read it again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30117042</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>kryptKnight</author>
	<datestamp>1258394460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But most people have two eyes, and the parallax between them gives the third dimension.</p></div><p>That's almost completely wrong, the grandparent poster knows what he's talking about.  Binocular vision is only useful for depth perception within about a foot or two of your face, beyond that and the difference between what your eyes see is too small to matter.  Depth perception is almost entirely unconscious mental processing that's informed by cues like relative position, relative size, clarity and so on.</p><p>The reason you have two eyes is because of bilateral symmetry and a wide field of vision is useful. Think about rabbits, their eyes have almost no overlapping field of vision, but they manage just fine in 3d space.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But most people have two eyes , and the parallax between them gives the third dimension.That 's almost completely wrong , the grandparent poster knows what he 's talking about .
Binocular vision is only useful for depth perception within about a foot or two of your face , beyond that and the difference between what your eyes see is too small to matter .
Depth perception is almost entirely unconscious mental processing that 's informed by cues like relative position , relative size , clarity and so on.The reason you have two eyes is because of bilateral symmetry and a wide field of vision is useful .
Think about rabbits , their eyes have almost no overlapping field of vision , but they manage just fine in 3d space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But most people have two eyes, and the parallax between them gives the third dimension.That's almost completely wrong, the grandparent poster knows what he's talking about.
Binocular vision is only useful for depth perception within about a foot or two of your face, beyond that and the difference between what your eyes see is too small to matter.
Depth perception is almost entirely unconscious mental processing that's informed by cues like relative position, relative size, clarity and so on.The reason you have two eyes is because of bilateral symmetry and a wide field of vision is useful.
Think about rabbits, their eyes have almost no overlapping field of vision, but they manage just fine in 3d space.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113042</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111618</id>
	<title>Fraqtive</title>
	<author>nephridium</author>
	<datestamp>1258302120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>A very nice open source app, available through the Ubuntu/Debian repositories. The author's <a href="http://fraqtive.mimec.org/" title="mimec.org"> page</a> [mimec.org] even got a windows version.<br> <br>

It supports multi-core CPUs, i.e. if you really want to tax each of your CPU's core to the limit, just use the app to browse through the mandelbrot set. It also supports a 3D extrapolation of the 2D set (OpenGL and software).<br> <br>

Strangely enough it doesn't seem all that popular, as the <a href="http://fraqtive.mimec.org/forum" title="mimec.org">forum</a> [mimec.org] doesn't seem all that populated..</htmltext>
<tokenext>A very nice open source app , available through the Ubuntu/Debian repositories .
The author 's page [ mimec.org ] even got a windows version .
It supports multi-core CPUs , i.e .
if you really want to tax each of your CPU 's core to the limit , just use the app to browse through the mandelbrot set .
It also supports a 3D extrapolation of the 2D set ( OpenGL and software ) .
Strangely enough it does n't seem all that popular , as the forum [ mimec.org ] does n't seem all that populated. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A very nice open source app, available through the Ubuntu/Debian repositories.
The author's  page [mimec.org] even got a windows version.
It supports multi-core CPUs, i.e.
if you really want to tax each of your CPU's core to the limit, just use the app to browse through the mandelbrot set.
It also supports a 3D extrapolation of the 2D set (OpenGL and software).
Strangely enough it doesn't seem all that popular, as the forum [mimec.org] doesn't seem all that populated..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112854</id>
	<title>What about fractional powers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258404600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Like 7.5 or something like that.  Of course it would slow rendering way down, but the gpu would make up for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Like 7.5 or something like that .
Of course it would slow rendering way down , but the gpu would make up for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like 7.5 or something like that.
Of course it would slow rendering way down, but the gpu would make up for it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111912</id>
	<title>Ow my sanity</title>
	<author>jaxtherat</author>
	<datestamp>1258305540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did anyone else get seriously freaked out looking at stills of the 3D fractals? Stuff of nightmares...<br><br>Amazingly cool maths though!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did anyone else get seriously freaked out looking at stills of the 3D fractals ?
Stuff of nightmares...Amazingly cool maths though !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did anyone else get seriously freaked out looking at stills of the 3D fractals?
Stuff of nightmares...Amazingly cool maths though!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111958</id>
	<title>Nature imitates art</title>
	<author>jms</author>
	<datestamp>1258306080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Compare the images to Louis Sullivan's late 19th and early 20th century ornamentation:</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Van\_Allen\_Column\_Capital.jpg" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Van\_Allen\_Column\_Capital.jpg</a> [wikipedia.org]<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Van\_Allen\_3.jpg" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Van\_Allen\_3.jpg</a> [wikipedia.org]<br><a href="http://www.harboearch.com/getProject.php?projname=sullivancenterc" title="harboearch.com">http://www.harboearch.com/getProject.php?projname=sullivancenterc</a> [harboearch.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Compare the images to Louis Sullivan 's late 19th and early 20th century ornamentation : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File : Van \ _Allen \ _Column \ _Capital.jpg [ wikipedia.org ] http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File : Van \ _Allen \ _3.jpg [ wikipedia.org ] http : //www.harboearch.com/getProject.php ? projname = sullivancenterc [ harboearch.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Compare the images to Louis Sullivan's late 19th and early 20th century ornamentation:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Van\_Allen\_Column\_Capital.jpg [wikipedia.org]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Van\_Allen\_3.jpg [wikipedia.org]http://www.harboearch.com/getProject.php?projname=sullivancenterc [harboearch.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30120226</id>
	<title>and</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258404360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mandelbutt - a 3D Mandelbrot Construct, Fondled</p><p>Mandelbra - a 3D Mandelbrot Support Mechanism for your 5-Dimensional Mistress, Tempest Vavoom</p><p>Mandelabra - a 3D Mandelbrot Lighting Device</p><p>Mandelburp - a 3D Mandelbrot Gaseous Utterance</p><p>Mandelhowie - a 3D Mandelbrot Comedian, or Canadian, nm, same thing</p><p>Mandrellbarb - a 3D Mandelbrot Comedian, or Country Singer, nm, same thing</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mandelbutt - a 3D Mandelbrot Construct , FondledMandelbra - a 3D Mandelbrot Support Mechanism for your 5-Dimensional Mistress , Tempest VavoomMandelabra - a 3D Mandelbrot Lighting DeviceMandelburp - a 3D Mandelbrot Gaseous UtteranceMandelhowie - a 3D Mandelbrot Comedian , or Canadian , nm , same thingMandrellbarb - a 3D Mandelbrot Comedian , or Country Singer , nm , same thing</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mandelbutt - a 3D Mandelbrot Construct, FondledMandelbra - a 3D Mandelbrot Support Mechanism for your 5-Dimensional Mistress, Tempest VavoomMandelabra - a 3D Mandelbrot Lighting DeviceMandelburp - a 3D Mandelbrot Gaseous UtteranceMandelhowie - a 3D Mandelbrot Comedian, or Canadian, nm, same thingMandrellbarb - a 3D Mandelbrot Comedian, or Country Singer, nm, same thing</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30116800</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>Hal\_Porter</author>
	<datestamp>1258393560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can you put a soundtrack on that? Like some 80s hair metal or something?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you put a soundtrack on that ?
Like some 80s hair metal or something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you put a soundtrack on that?
Like some 80s hair metal or something?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110740</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30114240</id>
	<title>A 3D Mandelbrot needs 3d Julias...or something...</title>
	<author>swm</author>
	<datestamp>1258379640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Monkeying with the equation that generates the Mandelbrot set seems misguided.</p><p>The true definition of the Mandelbrot set is the set of points for which the corresponding Julia set is connected. This is the original motivation for the equation. If you want to get an interesting 3D object, start by searching for an interesting collection of sets that are parameterized by three coordinates.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Monkeying with the equation that generates the Mandelbrot set seems misguided.The true definition of the Mandelbrot set is the set of points for which the corresponding Julia set is connected .
This is the original motivation for the equation .
If you want to get an interesting 3D object , start by searching for an interesting collection of sets that are parameterized by three coordinates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Monkeying with the equation that generates the Mandelbrot set seems misguided.The true definition of the Mandelbrot set is the set of points for which the corresponding Julia set is connected.
This is the original motivation for the equation.
If you want to get an interesting 3D object, start by searching for an interesting collection of sets that are parameterized by three coordinates.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110740</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>Eudial</author>
	<datestamp>1258293840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While not a pure mandelbrot, but a buddhabrot rendering: For the curious, <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/NebulabrotRotation" title="archive.org">here's</a> [archive.org] a nice 2D projection of such a (rotating) 4D fractal I whipped up a while back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While not a pure mandelbrot , but a buddhabrot rendering : For the curious , here 's [ archive.org ] a nice 2D projection of such a ( rotating ) 4D fractal I whipped up a while back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While not a pure mandelbrot, but a buddhabrot rendering: For the curious, here's [archive.org] a nice 2D projection of such a (rotating) 4D fractal I whipped up a while back.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110486</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30124042</id>
	<title>Re:Looks like a big sea slug.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258377060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Already done; it's call a sea slug.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Already done ; it 's call a sea slug .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Already done; it's call a sea slug.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110560</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113524</id>
	<title>quat</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258370940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Remembers me of the quaternion generator:<br>http://www.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/phy11733/index\_e.html</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Remembers me of the quaternion generator : http : //www.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/phy11733/index \ _e.html</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remembers me of the quaternion generator:http://www.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/phy11733/index\_e.html</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113946</id>
	<title>Re:Ice Cream From Uranus?</title>
	<author>Snarf You</author>
	<datestamp>1258376580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When I first looked at the site a few hours ago, I saw Uranus.   It has since been renamed to "Ice Cream From Neptune".</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I first looked at the site a few hours ago , I saw Uranus .
It has since been renamed to " Ice Cream From Neptune " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I first looked at the site a few hours ago, I saw Uranus.
It has since been renamed to "Ice Cream From Neptune".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110518</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110488</id>
	<title>Now do 4d and animate it!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258291380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or would that open up a Lovecraftian dimension better left to slumber?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or would that open up a Lovecraftian dimension better left to slumber ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or would that open up a Lovecraftian dimension better left to slumber?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110884</id>
	<title>w00t</title>
	<author>lycium</author>
	<datestamp>1258295220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>cool, nice to see my images linked on slashdot<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) hopefully we'll have some gpu-accelerated results to show you all soon (and for those with opencl supporting cards, executables).</p><p>btw interested parties might like to check out my 3840x2400 resolution render of the 7th degree version here: <a href="http://lyc.deviantart.com/art/siebenfach-139038934" title="deviantart.com" rel="nofollow">http://lyc.deviantart.com/art/siebenfach-139038934</a> [deviantart.com] (it's buried deep in the thread, and fractalforums is creeking a bit)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>cool , nice to see my images linked on slashdot : ) hopefully we 'll have some gpu-accelerated results to show you all soon ( and for those with opencl supporting cards , executables ) .btw interested parties might like to check out my 3840x2400 resolution render of the 7th degree version here : http : //lyc.deviantart.com/art/siebenfach-139038934 [ deviantart.com ] ( it 's buried deep in the thread , and fractalforums is creeking a bit )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>cool, nice to see my images linked on slashdot :) hopefully we'll have some gpu-accelerated results to show you all soon (and for those with opencl supporting cards, executables).btw interested parties might like to check out my 3840x2400 resolution render of the 7th degree version here: http://lyc.deviantart.com/art/siebenfach-139038934 [deviantart.com] (it's buried deep in the thread, and fractalforums is creeking a bit)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30118206</id>
	<title>Aliasing</title>
	<author>Prune</author>
	<datestamp>1258398120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most of the images on the site suffer from aliasing which is quite nasty in some areas and makes them lose some of the beauty.  He needs to supersample the rendering and apply a decent filter.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of the images on the site suffer from aliasing which is quite nasty in some areas and makes them lose some of the beauty .
He needs to supersample the rendering and apply a decent filter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of the images on the site suffer from aliasing which is quite nasty in some areas and makes them lose some of the beauty.
He needs to supersample the rendering and apply a decent filter.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30134194</id>
	<title>A Better Name</title>
	<author>shambalagoon</author>
	<datestamp>1258450320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mandelbroccoli</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mandelbroccoli</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mandelbroccoli</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112984</id>
	<title>W00t, pretty pictures!</title>
	<author>Kickasso</author>
	<datestamp>1258363140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thank you, my collection of backgrounds has just become one step closer to ultimate perfection.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank you , my collection of backgrounds has just become one step closer to ultimate perfection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank you, my collection of backgrounds has just become one step closer to ultimate perfection.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111242</id>
	<title>Re:That thing looks like all of my nightmares.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258299180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's a few things I'd like to put inside of you and make pulsate<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:O</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a few things I 'd like to put inside of you and make pulsate : O</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a few things I'd like to put inside of you and make pulsate :O</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111178</id>
	<title>Re:Looks like a big sea slug.</title>
	<author>Wonko the Sane</author>
	<datestamp>1258298580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Really? What are they?</p></div></blockquote><p>The basic quantum physics formulas that cover the interactions of protons, neutrons and electrons.</p><p>Given sufficient RAM and processing capability we could simulate practically anything via a brute force approach. I doubt that the worldwide total of either one is enough to fully simulate a sea slug down to the subatomic particle level, but we already know algorithms that could do it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Really ?
What are they ? The basic quantum physics formulas that cover the interactions of protons , neutrons and electrons.Given sufficient RAM and processing capability we could simulate practically anything via a brute force approach .
I doubt that the worldwide total of either one is enough to fully simulate a sea slug down to the subatomic particle level , but we already know algorithms that could do it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really?
What are they?The basic quantum physics formulas that cover the interactions of protons, neutrons and electrons.Given sufficient RAM and processing capability we could simulate practically anything via a brute force approach.
I doubt that the worldwide total of either one is enough to fully simulate a sea slug down to the subatomic particle level, but we already know algorithms that could do it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111018</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30114680</id>
	<title>Subject</title>
	<author>Legion303</author>
	<datestamp>1258383780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TFA says that they couldn't find a 3D program that rendered from formulas, but from what I remember, Maya will do just that (you need to use melscript). It's not exactly free, but hey...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA says that they could n't find a 3D program that rendered from formulas , but from what I remember , Maya will do just that ( you need to use melscript ) .
It 's not exactly free , but hey.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA says that they couldn't find a 3D program that rendered from formulas, but from what I remember, Maya will do just that (you need to use melscript).
It's not exactly free, but hey...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30114694</id>
	<title>Picky eater</title>
	<author>haapi</author>
	<datestamp>1258383900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't like broccoli.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't like broccoli .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't like broccoli.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112886</id>
	<title>Re:Flashback</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258405020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Weird, I definitely saw that thing after taking acid once, in fact I floated though it for quite a while. It may look all pretty on your screen, but that shit put me off drugs for life, man.</p></div><p>Than you should see the resemblance to diatoms on the microscopic scale and the structure of the mapped known universe on a universal scale. Amazing stuff fractals.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Weird , I definitely saw that thing after taking acid once , in fact I floated though it for quite a while .
It may look all pretty on your screen , but that shit put me off drugs for life , man.Than you should see the resemblance to diatoms on the microscopic scale and the structure of the mapped known universe on a universal scale .
Amazing stuff fractals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Weird, I definitely saw that thing after taking acid once, in fact I floated though it for quite a while.
It may look all pretty on your screen, but that shit put me off drugs for life, man.Than you should see the resemblance to diatoms on the microscopic scale and the structure of the mapped known universe on a universal scale.
Amazing stuff fractals.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110580</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113290</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1258367400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>*assignment of codons to specific amino acids (conversion of the genetic code into polypeptides)*energy minimization of protein structure (protein folding and interactions)*capacitor electronics (nervous system)It's all chemistry, physics and math.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* assignment of codons to specific amino acids ( conversion of the genetic code into polypeptides ) * energy minimization of protein structure ( protein folding and interactions ) * capacitor electronics ( nervous system ) It 's all chemistry , physics and math .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*assignment of codons to specific amino acids (conversion of the genetic code into polypeptides)*energy minimization of protein structure (protein folding and interactions)*capacitor electronics (nervous system)It's all chemistry, physics and math.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111494</id>
	<title>always looked 3d 2 me:-)</title>
	<author>airdrummer</author>
	<datestamp>1258301040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i'll have to fire up the ti99 to find the coords, but doing a CLUT sweep made the area look 3d, like roots descending into the earth;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i 'll have to fire up the ti99 to find the coords , but doing a CLUT sweep made the area look 3d , like roots descending into the earth ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i'll have to fire up the ti99 to find the coords, but doing a CLUT sweep made the area look 3d, like roots descending into the earth;-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110496</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30120080</id>
	<title>Re:Looks like a big sea slug.</title>
	<author>I(rispee\_I(reme</author>
	<datestamp>1258403880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Progress is being made towards just such a scenario; however, due to the computational expense, the only such definition (so far, to my knowledge) is a <a href="http://www.livescience.com/technology/060327\_computer\_virus.html" title="livescience.com">tobacco mosaic virus in a drop of water</a> [livescience.com].</p><p>This was simulated on the atomic level, and according to the article ~50 million atoms were virtualized. Again due to computational expense, the emulation ran for only 50 nanoseconds.</p><p>It raises the old conundrum of how accurate a model can be before it ceases to be useful or becomes a copy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Progress is being made towards just such a scenario ; however , due to the computational expense , the only such definition ( so far , to my knowledge ) is a tobacco mosaic virus in a drop of water [ livescience.com ] .This was simulated on the atomic level , and according to the article ~ 50 million atoms were virtualized .
Again due to computational expense , the emulation ran for only 50 nanoseconds.It raises the old conundrum of how accurate a model can be before it ceases to be useful or becomes a copy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Progress is being made towards just such a scenario; however, due to the computational expense, the only such definition (so far, to my knowledge) is a tobacco mosaic virus in a drop of water [livescience.com].This was simulated on the atomic level, and according to the article ~50 million atoms were virtualized.
Again due to computational expense, the emulation ran for only 50 nanoseconds.It raises the old conundrum of how accurate a model can be before it ceases to be useful or becomes a copy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110560</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110580</id>
	<title>Flashback</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258292040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Weird, I definitely saw that thing after taking acid once, in fact I floated though it for quite a while. It may look all pretty on your screen, but that shit put me off drugs for life, man.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Weird , I definitely saw that thing after taking acid once , in fact I floated though it for quite a while .
It may look all pretty on your screen , but that shit put me off drugs for life , man .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Weird, I definitely saw that thing after taking acid once, in fact I floated though it for quite a while.
It may look all pretty on your screen, but that shit put me off drugs for life, man.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111116</id>
	<title>Yes...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258297860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looks like a Yes album art generator...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like a Yes album art generator.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like a Yes album art generator...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30123030</id>
	<title>Re:That thing looks like all of my nightmares.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258371900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>really? you have nightmares about broccoli too?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>really ?
you have nightmares about broccoli too ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>really?
you have nightmares about broccoli too?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112464</id>
	<title>I smell profit!</title>
	<author>AndroidCat</author>
	<datestamp>1258312740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Time to buy stock in some select t-shirt companies!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Time to buy stock in some select t-shirt companies !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Time to buy stock in some select t-shirt companies!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30115168</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258386360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not really. There isn't enough degree separation between the eyes at any meaningful distance that gives depth perception. Our perception of depth comes from visual cues, not "binocular vision".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not really .
There is n't enough degree separation between the eyes at any meaningful distance that gives depth perception .
Our perception of depth comes from visual cues , not " binocular vision " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not really.
There isn't enough degree separation between the eyes at any meaningful distance that gives depth perception.
Our perception of depth comes from visual cues, not "binocular vision".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113042</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111018</id>
	<title>Re:Looks like a big sea slug.</title>
	<author>lawpoop</author>
	<datestamp>1258296540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A sea slug is already defined by known rules and equations, it's just a matter of doing the math.</p></div><p> Really? What are they?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A sea slug is already defined by known rules and equations , it 's just a matter of doing the math .
Really ? What are they ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A sea slug is already defined by known rules and equations, it's just a matter of doing the math.
Really? What are they?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110850</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110560</id>
	<title>Looks like a big sea slug.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258291800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder if we'll ever reach the point where we will be able to define, with equations and rules, a sea slug using the principles of <a href="http://www.imachination.net/next100/brainstorm/pattern.html" title="imachination.net" rel="nofollow">cellular automata</a> [imachination.net]?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if we 'll ever reach the point where we will be able to define , with equations and rules , a sea slug using the principles of cellular automata [ imachination.net ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if we'll ever reach the point where we will be able to define, with equations and rules, a sea slug using the principles of cellular automata [imachination.net]?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110496</id>
	<title>Not a "true" 3D Mandelbrot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258291440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's definitely nifty, the pictures are beautiful, and the creator deserves praise, but the author himself says it's probably not a "true" 3D Mandelbrot:</p><p><a href="http://www.skytopia.com/project/fractal/2mandelbulb.html#epilogue" title="skytopia.com">http://www.skytopia.com/project/fractal/2mandelbulb.html#epilogue</a> [skytopia.com]</p><p><i>As exquisite as the detail is in our discovery, there's good reason to believe that it isn't the real McCoy.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>Evidence it's not the holy grail? Well, the most obvious is that the standard quadratic version isn't anything special. Only higher powers (around after 3-5) seem to capture the detail that one might expect. The original 2D Mandelbrot has organic detail even in the standard power/order 2 version. Even power 8 in the 3D Mandelbulb has smeared 'whipped cream' sections, which are nice in a way as they provide contrast to the more detailed parts, but again, they wouldn't compare to the variety one might expect from a 3D version of Seahorse valley.</i></p><p>So, Slashdot, I know this is asking a lot, but can you PLEASE at least read the article before posting?  Thanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's definitely nifty , the pictures are beautiful , and the creator deserves praise , but the author himself says it 's probably not a " true " 3D Mandelbrot : http : //www.skytopia.com/project/fractal/2mandelbulb.html # epilogue [ skytopia.com ] As exquisite as the detail is in our discovery , there 's good reason to believe that it is n't the real McCoy .
... ...Evidence it 's not the holy grail ?
Well , the most obvious is that the standard quadratic version is n't anything special .
Only higher powers ( around after 3-5 ) seem to capture the detail that one might expect .
The original 2D Mandelbrot has organic detail even in the standard power/order 2 version .
Even power 8 in the 3D Mandelbulb has smeared 'whipped cream ' sections , which are nice in a way as they provide contrast to the more detailed parts , but again , they would n't compare to the variety one might expect from a 3D version of Seahorse valley.So , Slashdot , I know this is asking a lot , but can you PLEASE at least read the article before posting ?
Thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's definitely nifty, the pictures are beautiful, and the creator deserves praise, but the author himself says it's probably not a "true" 3D Mandelbrot:http://www.skytopia.com/project/fractal/2mandelbulb.html#epilogue [skytopia.com]As exquisite as the detail is in our discovery, there's good reason to believe that it isn't the real McCoy.
... ...Evidence it's not the holy grail?
Well, the most obvious is that the standard quadratic version isn't anything special.
Only higher powers (around after 3-5) seem to capture the detail that one might expect.
The original 2D Mandelbrot has organic detail even in the standard power/order 2 version.
Even power 8 in the 3D Mandelbulb has smeared 'whipped cream' sections, which are nice in a way as they provide contrast to the more detailed parts, but again, they wouldn't compare to the variety one might expect from a 3D version of Seahorse valley.So, Slashdot, I know this is asking a lot, but can you PLEASE at least read the article before posting?
Thanks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30127674</id>
	<title>So.. does it mean that math is beautiful?</title>
	<author>Hemi Rodner</author>
	<datestamp>1258463100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>(n/t)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>( n/t )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(n/t)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113386</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>odourpreventer</author>
	<datestamp>1258368660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; trying to extend the Mandelbrot set to 3D is ill-defined</p><p>Depends what you want to achieve. This could be said for all 4D objects that you want to project in a 3D space. Most fractal programs (that support quaternions) solve this by projecting three variables and varying the fourth through time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; trying to extend the Mandelbrot set to 3D is ill-definedDepends what you want to achieve .
This could be said for all 4D objects that you want to project in a 3D space .
Most fractal programs ( that support quaternions ) solve this by projecting three variables and varying the fourth through time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; trying to extend the Mandelbrot set to 3D is ill-definedDepends what you want to achieve.
This could be said for all 4D objects that you want to project in a 3D space.
Most fractal programs (that support quaternions) solve this by projecting three variables and varying the fourth through time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111038</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110814</id>
	<title>Re:Ice Cream From Uranus?</title>
	<author>SeNtM</author>
	<datestamp>1258294560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Professor: "I'm sorry, Fry, but astronomers renamed Uranus in 2620 to end that stupid joke once and for all."<br>
Fry: "Oh. What's it called now?"<br>
Professor: "Urrectum. Here, let me locate it for you."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Professor : " I 'm sorry , Fry , but astronomers renamed Uranus in 2620 to end that stupid joke once and for all .
" Fry : " Oh .
What 's it called now ?
" Professor : " Urrectum .
Here , let me locate it for you .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Professor: "I'm sorry, Fry, but astronomers renamed Uranus in 2620 to end that stupid joke once and for all.
"
Fry: "Oh.
What's it called now?
"
Professor: "Urrectum.
Here, let me locate it for you.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110518</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110850</id>
	<title>Re:Looks like a big sea slug.</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1258294860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wouldn't doubt it a bit.  A sea slug is already defined by known rules and equations, it's just a matter of doing the math.  Their genomes aren't terribly extensive compared to other organisms so it should be quite possible to simulate one quite accurately with a few simple equations and basic rules of chemistry and physics.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't doubt it a bit .
A sea slug is already defined by known rules and equations , it 's just a matter of doing the math .
Their genomes are n't terribly extensive compared to other organisms so it should be quite possible to simulate one quite accurately with a few simple equations and basic rules of chemistry and physics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't doubt it a bit.
A sea slug is already defined by known rules and equations, it's just a matter of doing the math.
Their genomes aren't terribly extensive compared to other organisms so it should be quite possible to simulate one quite accurately with a few simple equations and basic rules of chemistry and physics.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110560</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30119040</id>
	<title>Cool.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258400760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>H.R. Geiger on prozac.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>H.R .
Geiger on prozac .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>H.R.
Geiger on prozac.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111344</id>
	<title>Re:Flashback</title>
	<author>Tablizer</author>
	<datestamp>1258299900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, that's the Goatsebrot set you're thinking of.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , that 's the Goatsebrot set you 're thinking of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, that's the Goatsebrot set you're thinking of.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110580</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110476</id>
	<title>frost piss!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258291260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>foist foi9st!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>foist foi9st !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>foist foi9st!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111394</id>
	<title>Re:Ice Cream From Uranus?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258300200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Two girls, one<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... oh never mind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Two girls , one ... oh never mind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two girls, one ... oh never mind.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110518</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112584</id>
	<title>Re:Flashback</title>
	<author>Korbeau</author>
	<datestamp>1258314540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Weird, I definitely saw that thing after taking acid once, in fact I floated though it for quite a while. It may look all pretty on your screen, but that shit put me off drugs for life, man.</p></div><p>Modded informative?!?</p><p>What, is seeing the "mandelbulb" the mathematical incarnation of "this man" <a href="http://thisman.org/" title="thisman.org" rel="nofollow">http://thisman.org/</a> [thisman.org]?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Weird , I definitely saw that thing after taking acid once , in fact I floated though it for quite a while .
It may look all pretty on your screen , but that shit put me off drugs for life , man.Modded informative ? !
? What , is seeing the " mandelbulb " the mathematical incarnation of " this man " http : //thisman.org/ [ thisman.org ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Weird, I definitely saw that thing after taking acid once, in fact I floated though it for quite a while.
It may look all pretty on your screen, but that shit put me off drugs for life, man.Modded informative?!
?What, is seeing the "mandelbulb" the mathematical incarnation of "this man" http://thisman.org/ [thisman.org]?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113078</id>
	<title>Re:w00t</title>
	<author>Per Wigren</author>
	<datestamp>1258364340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I rewatched the original Alien movie just yesterday and that image looks like it could be a pause picture from the base at the planetoid where they discover the aliens.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I rewatched the original Alien movie just yesterday and that image looks like it could be a pause picture from the base at the planetoid where they discover the aliens .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I rewatched the original Alien movie just yesterday and that image looks like it could be a pause picture from the base at the planetoid where they discover the aliens.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110916</id>
	<title>...and in other news</title>
	<author>Linker3000</author>
	<datestamp>1258295640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and in other news: Shares in printer ink manufacturing companies rose significantly tonight, and a spokesperson for local schools' IT said they hoped this development would now give them something to finally replace that picture of the cartoon duck smashing the computer with a large mallet, provided the aged blue tack hadn't fused the original printout from 1998 permanently to the computer room walls.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and in other news : Shares in printer ink manufacturing companies rose significantly tonight , and a spokesperson for local schools ' IT said they hoped this development would now give them something to finally replace that picture of the cartoon duck smashing the computer with a large mallet , provided the aged blue tack had n't fused the original printout from 1998 permanently to the computer room walls .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and in other news: Shares in printer ink manufacturing companies rose significantly tonight, and a spokesperson for local schools' IT said they hoped this development would now give them something to finally replace that picture of the cartoon duck smashing the computer with a large mallet, provided the aged blue tack hadn't fused the original printout from 1998 permanently to the computer room walls.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111030</id>
	<title>Broccoflower formula?</title>
	<author>lawpoop</author>
	<datestamp>1258296660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>While we're on the subject, can someone point me to where I can find a formula for generating a <a href="http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;q=broccoflower" title="google.com">broccoflower</a> [google.com] shape? I want to make one in 3d, but I'm not so good with teh maths.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While we 're on the subject , can someone point me to where I can find a formula for generating a broccoflower [ google.com ] shape ?
I want to make one in 3d , but I 'm not so good with teh maths .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While we're on the subject, can someone point me to where I can find a formula for generating a broccoflower [google.com] shape?
I want to make one in 3d, but I'm not so good with teh maths.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113788</id>
	<title>Mandlebulbs dirty secret</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258374780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This shot from within the mandlebulb, gave me nightmares...</p><p>http://mandelbulb.s3.amazonaws.com/q85/IceCreamFromNeptune-small2.jpg</p><p>I've named it Death by a thousand penis'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This shot from within the mandlebulb , gave me nightmares...http : //mandelbulb.s3.amazonaws.com/q85/IceCreamFromNeptune-small2.jpgI 've named it Death by a thousand penis'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This shot from within the mandlebulb, gave me nightmares...http://mandelbulb.s3.amazonaws.com/q85/IceCreamFromNeptune-small2.jpgI've named it Death by a thousand penis'</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30125196</id>
	<title>Re:Flashback</title>
	<author>repapetilto</author>
	<datestamp>1258386480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>can you provide good pics for that</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>can you provide good pics for that</tokentext>
<sentencetext>can you provide good pics for that</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30115246</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>Khelder</author>
	<datestamp>1258386660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, the stereoscopic effect of two eyes provides depth info, although only to about 20 feet.</p><p>Fortuantely, there are other cues, too. I don't think I remember them all, but a few are: parallax (different apparent relative motion of objects at different depth as the viewer moves), occlusion, and accomodation (like a camera, your eye focuses differently for different depths).</p><p>So yes, each retina is 2D, but even statically you can build a 3D model from that, and over time you get even more cues. (It is useful to remember, though, that the 3D model in your head is just a a model and may not correspond exactly to what's out there.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , the stereoscopic effect of two eyes provides depth info , although only to about 20 feet.Fortuantely , there are other cues , too .
I do n't think I remember them all , but a few are : parallax ( different apparent relative motion of objects at different depth as the viewer moves ) , occlusion , and accomodation ( like a camera , your eye focuses differently for different depths ) .So yes , each retina is 2D , but even statically you can build a 3D model from that , and over time you get even more cues .
( It is useful to remember , though , that the 3D model in your head is just a a model and may not correspond exactly to what 's out there .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, the stereoscopic effect of two eyes provides depth info, although only to about 20 feet.Fortuantely, there are other cues, too.
I don't think I remember them all, but a few are: parallax (different apparent relative motion of objects at different depth as the viewer moves), occlusion, and accomodation (like a camera, your eye focuses differently for different depths).So yes, each retina is 2D, but even statically you can build a 3D model from that, and over time you get even more cues.
(It is useful to remember, though, that the 3D model in your head is just a a model and may not correspond exactly to what's out there.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113764</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1258374600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>If that's the case, it's been a sad day since at least 1984.  These things teach us interesting things about numbers and are interesting in and of themselves.  As a way of making math more visually beautiful they also serve to draw the interest of youth to a field ordinarily seen as dry and boring.</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>If that 's the case , it 's been a sad day since at least 1984 .
These things teach us interesting things about numbers and are interesting in and of themselves .
As a way of making math more visually beautiful they also serve to draw the interest of youth to a field ordinarily seen as dry and boring .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If that's the case, it's been a sad day since at least 1984.
These things teach us interesting things about numbers and are interesting in and of themselves.
As a way of making math more visually beautiful they also serve to draw the interest of youth to a field ordinarily seen as dry and boring.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30119522</id>
	<title>Looks familiar...Kindof like a</title>
	<author>Whomp-Ass</author>
	<datestamp>1258402140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Rotavirus or, surprisingly enough, the Novel H1N1 strain going around.

Compare <a href="http://mandelbulb.s3.amazonaws.com/q50/pow16-small.jpg" title="amazonaws.com" rel="nofollow">This particular iteration</a> [amazonaws.com] to the following:
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:H1N1\_influenza\_virus.jpg" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">H1N1</a> [wikipedia.org] or
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Multiple\_rotavirus\_particles.jpg" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Rotavirus</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rotavirus or , surprisingly enough , the Novel H1N1 strain going around .
Compare This particular iteration [ amazonaws.com ] to the following : H1N1 [ wikipedia.org ] or Rotavirus [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rotavirus or, surprisingly enough, the Novel H1N1 strain going around.
Compare This particular iteration [amazonaws.com] to the following:
H1N1 [wikipedia.org] or
Rotavirus [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111786</id>
	<title>"Not a 'true' 3D Mandelbrot" misses the point...</title>
	<author>KonoWatakushi</author>
	<datestamp>1258304040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While you may have <i>a</i> point, it is similar to complaining about Ampere's Law, before Maxwell's correction.  Sure, it wasn't <i>exactly</i> right, but it more or less had the same properties.</p><p>This may not be the simplest function, but it retains the most fundamentally interesting properties of 2D fractals: infinite detail generated by a simple mathematical function.  It is fascinating just the same, and is only a (very) minor modification of the original 2D function.</p><p>The Mandelbulb is awe-inspiring, and it is disappointing to see that story nitpicking outclasses your interest in this wonderful piece of work.  If it were merely pretty pictures generated by iterative functions, I think you would be justified.  It isn't though--this is an amazing structure generated by a pure and simple piece of math.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While you may have a point , it is similar to complaining about Ampere 's Law , before Maxwell 's correction .
Sure , it was n't exactly right , but it more or less had the same properties.This may not be the simplest function , but it retains the most fundamentally interesting properties of 2D fractals : infinite detail generated by a simple mathematical function .
It is fascinating just the same , and is only a ( very ) minor modification of the original 2D function.The Mandelbulb is awe-inspiring , and it is disappointing to see that story nitpicking outclasses your interest in this wonderful piece of work .
If it were merely pretty pictures generated by iterative functions , I think you would be justified .
It is n't though--this is an amazing structure generated by a pure and simple piece of math .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While you may have a point, it is similar to complaining about Ampere's Law, before Maxwell's correction.
Sure, it wasn't exactly right, but it more or less had the same properties.This may not be the simplest function, but it retains the most fundamentally interesting properties of 2D fractals: infinite detail generated by a simple mathematical function.
It is fascinating just the same, and is only a (very) minor modification of the original 2D function.The Mandelbulb is awe-inspiring, and it is disappointing to see that story nitpicking outclasses your interest in this wonderful piece of work.
If it were merely pretty pictures generated by iterative functions, I think you would be justified.
It isn't though--this is an amazing structure generated by a pure and simple piece of math.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111918</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258305660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can you make this a screensaver?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you make this a screensaver ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you make this a screensaver?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113568</id>
	<title>Re:Looks like a big sea slug.</title>
	<author>dkf</author>
	<datestamp>1258371600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I wonder if we'll ever reach the point where we will be able to define, with equations and rules, a sea slug using the principles of <a href="http://www.imachination.net/next100/brainstorm/pattern.html" title="imachination.net">cellular automata</a> [imachination.net]?</p></div><p>"Ever"? Could well happen. But soon? Even with Moore's Law, not likely. (I'm assuming you're talking about doing the behavior and physiology, not just something that looks like one.) The issue is simply one of scaling up; a sea slug has a heck of a lot of elementary particles in it and just being able to cope with that many interactions is really tough. Of course, since there's not actually that many orders of magnitude of difference between a sea slug and a person, we'll be able to simulate people shortly after sea slugs, and humanity (at current population levels) not long after that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if we 'll ever reach the point where we will be able to define , with equations and rules , a sea slug using the principles of cellular automata [ imachination.net ] ? " Ever " ?
Could well happen .
But soon ?
Even with Moore 's Law , not likely .
( I 'm assuming you 're talking about doing the behavior and physiology , not just something that looks like one .
) The issue is simply one of scaling up ; a sea slug has a heck of a lot of elementary particles in it and just being able to cope with that many interactions is really tough .
Of course , since there 's not actually that many orders of magnitude of difference between a sea slug and a person , we 'll be able to simulate people shortly after sea slugs , and humanity ( at current population levels ) not long after that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if we'll ever reach the point where we will be able to define, with equations and rules, a sea slug using the principles of cellular automata [imachination.net]?"Ever"?
Could well happen.
But soon?
Even with Moore's Law, not likely.
(I'm assuming you're talking about doing the behavior and physiology, not just something that looks like one.
) The issue is simply one of scaling up; a sea slug has a heck of a lot of elementary particles in it and just being able to cope with that many interactions is really tough.
Of course, since there's not actually that many orders of magnitude of difference between a sea slug and a person, we'll be able to simulate people shortly after sea slugs, and humanity (at current population levels) not long after that.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112068</id>
	<title>Other fractal options</title>
	<author>Spykk</author>
	<datestamp>1258307520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As great as the mandelbrot set is, I personally feel that the burning ship set produces better imagery. Actually, some of the most interesting renders I have generated come from a set that is in between mandelbrot and burning ship. You can get a copy of the renderer that I wrote at <a href="http://www.spoonybardgames.com/" title="spoonybardgames.com" rel="nofollow">Spoony Bard Games</a> [spoonybardgames.com] and see for yourself.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As great as the mandelbrot set is , I personally feel that the burning ship set produces better imagery .
Actually , some of the most interesting renders I have generated come from a set that is in between mandelbrot and burning ship .
You can get a copy of the renderer that I wrote at Spoony Bard Games [ spoonybardgames.com ] and see for yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As great as the mandelbrot set is, I personally feel that the burning ship set produces better imagery.
Actually, some of the most interesting renders I have generated come from a set that is in between mandelbrot and burning ship.
You can get a copy of the renderer that I wrote at Spoony Bard Games [spoonybardgames.com] and see for yourself.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110928</id>
	<title>What if the "true" set is more mundane?</title>
	<author>ChronoFish</author>
	<datestamp>1258295760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I found that hot chocolate (not too watered-down) in a white ceramic mug leaves a very rudimentary but easily discernible "Mandelbrot" set.  At least the classic image (I have no way to zoom in to great detail on the side of my mug.).  The set is left  over from "chocolate bubbles".</p><p>Is it possible that the lines of the Mandelbrot set are simply outlines of colliding bubbles?  The 3D version of this, while cool - would be significantly less impressive than the images from the article.....</p><p>-CF</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I found that hot chocolate ( not too watered-down ) in a white ceramic mug leaves a very rudimentary but easily discernible " Mandelbrot " set .
At least the classic image ( I have no way to zoom in to great detail on the side of my mug. ) .
The set is left over from " chocolate bubbles " .Is it possible that the lines of the Mandelbrot set are simply outlines of colliding bubbles ?
The 3D version of this , while cool - would be significantly less impressive than the images from the article.....-CF</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I found that hot chocolate (not too watered-down) in a white ceramic mug leaves a very rudimentary but easily discernible "Mandelbrot" set.
At least the classic image (I have no way to zoom in to great detail on the side of my mug.).
The set is left  over from "chocolate bubbles".Is it possible that the lines of the Mandelbrot set are simply outlines of colliding bubbles?
The 3D version of this, while cool - would be significantly less impressive than the images from the article.....-CF</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110558</id>
	<title>Poorly-defined problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258291800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What are they trying to do, make up some 3D fractal that just looks like the mandelbrot? This mandelbulb seems pretty arbitrary, and the whole point of the story seems to be that they've found a good one, not that they've found any kind of "true" solution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What are they trying to do , make up some 3D fractal that just looks like the mandelbrot ?
This mandelbulb seems pretty arbitrary , and the whole point of the story seems to be that they 've found a good one , not that they 've found any kind of " true " solution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are they trying to do, make up some 3D fractal that just looks like the mandelbrot?
This mandelbulb seems pretty arbitrary, and the whole point of the story seems to be that they've found a good one, not that they've found any kind of "true" solution.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110844</id>
	<title>Re:Not a "true" 3D Mandelbrot</title>
	<author>symbolset</author>
	<datestamp>1258294860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is a subtle difference between "a solution" and "the solution".
</p><p>But yeah, I was selling it a bit because the pictures are so lovely.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a subtle difference between " a solution " and " the solution " .
But yeah , I was selling it a bit because the pictures are so lovely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a subtle difference between "a solution" and "the solution".
But yeah, I was selling it a bit because the pictures are so lovely.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30117454</id>
	<title>Turtles</title>
	<author>thinairart</author>
	<datestamp>1258396020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Looking at TFA's renders confirmed what I have always been told... Its turtles all the way down!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looking at TFA 's renders confirmed what I have always been told... Its turtles all the way down !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looking at TFA's renders confirmed what I have always been told... Its turtles all the way down!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30114318</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>Pedrito</author>
	<datestamp>1258380540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>[i]People who say they see 3-D crack me up, since the back of the eye is a 2-D surface.[/i]<br> <br>

Really? A sphere is 2D? How are you enjoying things in flat world?</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ i ] People who say they see 3-D crack me up , since the back of the eye is a 2-D surface .
[ /i ] Really ?
A sphere is 2D ?
How are you enjoying things in flat world ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[i]People who say they see 3-D crack me up, since the back of the eye is a 2-D surface.
[/i] 

Really?
A sphere is 2D?
How are you enjoying things in flat world?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113032</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1258363680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>{0,0,1}^2 doesn't seem to be well-defined.<br>Not only isn't the formula well defined at that point (division by zero), it cannot even be continuously extended to that point, because<br>lim\_{e-&gt;0} {e,0,1}^2 = {-1,0,0}<br>while<br>lim\_{e-&gt;0} {0,e,1}^2 = {1,0,0}<br>and even<br>lim\_{e-&gt;0} {e,e,1}^2 = {0,-1,0}</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>{ 0,0,1 } ^ 2 does n't seem to be well-defined.Not only is n't the formula well defined at that point ( division by zero ) , it can not even be continuously extended to that point , becauselim \ _ { e- &gt; 0 } { e,0,1 } ^ 2 = { -1,0,0 } whilelim \ _ { e- &gt; 0 } { 0,e,1 } ^ 2 = { 1,0,0 } and evenlim \ _ { e- &gt; 0 } { e,e,1 } ^ 2 = { 0,-1,0 }</tokentext>
<sentencetext>{0,0,1}^2 doesn't seem to be well-defined.Not only isn't the formula well defined at that point (division by zero), it cannot even be continuously extended to that point, becauselim\_{e-&gt;0} {e,0,1}^2 = {-1,0,0}whilelim\_{e-&gt;0} {0,e,1}^2 = {1,0,0}and evenlim\_{e-&gt;0} {e,e,1}^2 = {0,-1,0}</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112292</id>
	<title>Animated quaternion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258310280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The common Mandelbrot set is really a 2-dimensional slice of a 4-dimensional object identified by both the combination of the complex numbers Z0 and C in the canonical <i>Zn+1 = Zn^2 + C</i>. The mandelbrot set lives in the plane where <i>Z0 = 0 + 0i</i>, while the Julia sets live on infinitely-many-squared orthogonal planes in the remaining two dimensions, each one intersecting Mandelbrot's plane in a single point of complex coordinates C.</p><p>Visualizing this hyperspace monster was made easy by <a href="http://www.povray.org/" title="povray.org" rel="nofollow">POV-Ray</a> [povray.org].
It took my computer two week of computation to render 80 seconds of
<a href="http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/pictures/julia4D/julia4D.avi" title="sugarlabs.org" rel="nofollow">animated 3D slices of a the quaternion</a> [sugarlabs.org].
Check out the <a href="http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/pictures/julia4D/julia4D.pov" title="sugarlabs.org" rel="nofollow">scene source</a> [sugarlabs.org].</p><p>/me looks forward for a real-time Julia4D explorer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The common Mandelbrot set is really a 2-dimensional slice of a 4-dimensional object identified by both the combination of the complex numbers Z0 and C in the canonical Zn + 1 = Zn ^ 2 + C. The mandelbrot set lives in the plane where Z0 = 0 + 0i , while the Julia sets live on infinitely-many-squared orthogonal planes in the remaining two dimensions , each one intersecting Mandelbrot 's plane in a single point of complex coordinates C.Visualizing this hyperspace monster was made easy by POV-Ray [ povray.org ] .
It took my computer two week of computation to render 80 seconds of animated 3D slices of a the quaternion [ sugarlabs.org ] .
Check out the scene source [ sugarlabs.org ] ./me looks forward for a real-time Julia4D explorer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The common Mandelbrot set is really a 2-dimensional slice of a 4-dimensional object identified by both the combination of the complex numbers Z0 and C in the canonical Zn+1 = Zn^2 + C. The mandelbrot set lives in the plane where Z0 = 0 + 0i, while the Julia sets live on infinitely-many-squared orthogonal planes in the remaining two dimensions, each one intersecting Mandelbrot's plane in a single point of complex coordinates C.Visualizing this hyperspace monster was made easy by POV-Ray [povray.org].
It took my computer two week of computation to render 80 seconds of
animated 3D slices of a the quaternion [sugarlabs.org].
Check out the scene source [sugarlabs.org]./me looks forward for a real-time Julia4D explorer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113978</id>
	<title>steady hempin</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258376940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So it's a conicidence that all of those pictures look like enormous sticky buds? God does not play dice with the universe?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So it 's a conicidence that all of those pictures look like enormous sticky buds ?
God does not play dice with the universe ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So it's a conicidence that all of those pictures look like enormous sticky buds?
God does not play dice with the universe?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30115590</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>shadowofwind</author>
	<datestamp>1258388100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No matter how many eyes you have, or where they are placed, you still see only surfaces.  That's two dimensions, even though the two dimensions are embedded in three dimensions.  I should have made that point without being dismissive of other people's use of the term 3-D.</p><p>A person's spatial sense approximates three dimensions, and having two eyes, and especially movement of the head, gives an awareness of where things seem to be in that space.  The actual visual content is still two dimensional though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No matter how many eyes you have , or where they are placed , you still see only surfaces .
That 's two dimensions , even though the two dimensions are embedded in three dimensions .
I should have made that point without being dismissive of other people 's use of the term 3-D.A person 's spatial sense approximates three dimensions , and having two eyes , and especially movement of the head , gives an awareness of where things seem to be in that space .
The actual visual content is still two dimensional though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No matter how many eyes you have, or where they are placed, you still see only surfaces.
That's two dimensions, even though the two dimensions are embedded in three dimensions.
I should have made that point without being dismissive of other people's use of the term 3-D.A person's spatial sense approximates three dimensions, and having two eyes, and especially movement of the head, gives an awareness of where things seem to be in that space.
The actual visual content is still two dimensional though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111542</id>
	<title>Re:Looks like a big sea slug.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258301460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No. read this (quite interesting):</p><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital\_physics#Pancomputationalism\_or\_the\_Computational\_universe\_theory</p><p>and go from there. The fact that we know the equations doesn't mean we can simulate anything.</p><p>For example : say a slug was a spherical shape. Just to represent pi, and therefore its volume would require infinite precision. There is a massive difference between knowing the ideal equations and simulating an organism.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
read this ( quite interesting ) : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital \ _physics # Pancomputationalism \ _or \ _the \ _Computational \ _universe \ _theoryand go from there .
The fact that we know the equations does n't mean we can simulate anything.For example : say a slug was a spherical shape .
Just to represent pi , and therefore its volume would require infinite precision .
There is a massive difference between knowing the ideal equations and simulating an organism .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
read this (quite interesting):http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital\_physics#Pancomputationalism\_or\_the\_Computational\_universe\_theoryand go from there.
The fact that we know the equations doesn't mean we can simulate anything.For example : say a slug was a spherical shape.
Just to represent pi, and therefore its volume would require infinite precision.
There is a massive difference between knowing the ideal equations and simulating an organism.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112590</id>
	<title>Re:Flashback</title>
	<author>Twinbee</author>
	<datestamp>1258314660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi I'm the author of the article. Curious, which image was it that created the flashback?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi I 'm the author of the article .
Curious , which image was it that created the flashback ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi I'm the author of the article.
Curious, which image was it that created the flashback?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112188</id>
	<title>broccoli</title>
	<author>oliphaunt</author>
	<datestamp>1258309020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and here I thought I was coming to read a post about <a href="http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla\%3Aen-US\%3Aofficial&amp;um=1&amp;sa=1&amp;q=romanesco&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;aqi=g2&amp;start=0" title="google.com">Romanesco Broccoli</a> [google.com] (link goes to gis for "romanesco").  Seriously, it's like eating math.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and here I thought I was coming to read a post about Romanesco Broccoli [ google.com ] ( link goes to gis for " romanesco " ) .
Seriously , it 's like eating math .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and here I thought I was coming to read a post about Romanesco Broccoli [google.com] (link goes to gis for "romanesco").
Seriously, it's like eating math.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30141364</id>
	<title>Re:Looks like a big sea slug.</title>
	<author>Cybrr</author>
	<datestamp>1257072840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If a computer can do it, so can <a href="http://rendell-attic.org/gol/tm.htm" title="rendell-attic.org" rel="nofollow">this Turing Machine implemented in Conway's Game of Life</a> [rendell-attic.org]. It's just a little slow.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If a computer can do it , so can this Turing Machine implemented in Conway 's Game of Life [ rendell-attic.org ] .
It 's just a little slow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If a computer can do it, so can this Turing Machine implemented in Conway's Game of Life [rendell-attic.org].
It's just a little slow.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113162</id>
	<title>Re:Not a "true" 3D Mandelbrot</title>
	<author>fractoid</author>
	<datestamp>1258365480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OK, I stood up for these guys and their 'artistic' definitions of things before, and it's hurting my soul, so to balance it out here I'm going to grump at you for your use of the term 'Mandelbrot'. It's a surname, not a mathematical object. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beno\%C3\%AEt\_Mandelbrot" title="wikipedia.org">Benoit Mandelbrot</a> [wikipedia.org] is a mathematician who was a pioneer in the field of fractal geometry. The object is known as the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot\_set" title="wikipedia.org">Mandelbrot set</a> [wikipedia.org].

<br> <br>My pedantic nature is appeased. As you were, gentlemen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , I stood up for these guys and their 'artistic ' definitions of things before , and it 's hurting my soul , so to balance it out here I 'm going to grump at you for your use of the term 'Mandelbrot' .
It 's a surname , not a mathematical object .
Benoit Mandelbrot [ wikipedia.org ] is a mathematician who was a pioneer in the field of fractal geometry .
The object is known as the Mandelbrot set [ wikipedia.org ] .
My pedantic nature is appeased .
As you were , gentlemen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, I stood up for these guys and their 'artistic' definitions of things before, and it's hurting my soul, so to balance it out here I'm going to grump at you for your use of the term 'Mandelbrot'.
It's a surname, not a mathematical object.
Benoit Mandelbrot [wikipedia.org] is a mathematician who was a pioneer in the field of fractal geometry.
The object is known as the Mandelbrot set [wikipedia.org].
My pedantic nature is appeased.
As you were, gentlemen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112746</id>
	<title>Sea urchins and diatoms</title>
	<author>flyingfsck</author>
	<datestamp>1258402980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think that the sea is full of 3D mandelbrot set creatures.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that the sea is full of 3D mandelbrot set creatures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that the sea is full of 3D mandelbrot set creatures.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111844</id>
	<title>Re:Flashback</title>
	<author>Progman3K</author>
	<datestamp>1258304700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A few of those things look like magnified pictures of pollen...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A few of those things look like magnified pictures of pollen.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A few of those things look like magnified pictures of pollen...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30115560</id>
	<title>yes, but can they do this?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258387980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~sxanth/pyvm-2.0/logo.png" title="upatras.gr" rel="nofollow">http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~sxanth/pyvm-2.0/logo.png</a> [upatras.gr]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //students.ceid.upatras.gr/ ~ sxanth/pyvm-2.0/logo.png [ upatras.gr ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~sxanth/pyvm-2.0/logo.png [upatras.gr]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112526</id>
	<title>Re:That thing looks like all of my nightmares.</title>
	<author>XDirtypunkX</author>
	<datestamp>1258313580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, in so many ways yes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , in so many ways yes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, in so many ways yes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112044</id>
	<title>Re:Not a "true" 3D Mandelbrot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258307100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>So, Slashdot, I know this is asking a lot, but can you PLEASE at least read the article before posting?</i></p><p>No! I hate everything you stand for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , Slashdot , I know this is asking a lot , but can you PLEASE at least read the article before posting ? No !
I hate everything you stand for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, Slashdot, I know this is asking a lot, but can you PLEASE at least read the article before posting?No!
I hate everything you stand for.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30128768</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258472820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's an animation of the complex "4D Mandelbrot" mentioned - generally referred to as a Julibrot:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr-ul7sZDwc" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">Julibrot Animation</a> [youtube.com]</p><p>Just to add that:</p><p>A Mandelbrot Set is a view of what happens to the iterated orbits of many different functions with a fixed starting value. (note here that's Mandelbrot Set generally and *the* Mandelbrot Set specifically which is a view of what happens to the orbits of z^2+c where z and c are complex)</p><p>A Julia Set is a view of what happens to the iterated orbits of a single function given many different starting values (again that's Julia Set generally and *the* Julia Set specifically - the other way of viewing z^2+c where z and c are complex).</p><p>So if you consider the Julibrot itself then even considered as a 4D object it can't be described as a true general Mandelbrot (or Julia) because it is a view of iterated orbits using both different functions and different starting points.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's an animation of the complex " 4D Mandelbrot " mentioned - generally referred to as a Julibrot : Julibrot Animation [ youtube.com ] Just to add that : A Mandelbrot Set is a view of what happens to the iterated orbits of many different functions with a fixed starting value .
( note here that 's Mandelbrot Set generally and * the * Mandelbrot Set specifically which is a view of what happens to the orbits of z ^ 2 + c where z and c are complex ) A Julia Set is a view of what happens to the iterated orbits of a single function given many different starting values ( again that 's Julia Set generally and * the * Julia Set specifically - the other way of viewing z ^ 2 + c where z and c are complex ) .So if you consider the Julibrot itself then even considered as a 4D object it ca n't be described as a true general Mandelbrot ( or Julia ) because it is a view of iterated orbits using both different functions and different starting points .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's an animation of the complex "4D Mandelbrot" mentioned - generally referred to as a Julibrot:Julibrot Animation [youtube.com]Just to add that:A Mandelbrot Set is a view of what happens to the iterated orbits of many different functions with a fixed starting value.
(note here that's Mandelbrot Set generally and *the* Mandelbrot Set specifically which is a view of what happens to the orbits of z^2+c where z and c are complex)A Julia Set is a view of what happens to the iterated orbits of a single function given many different starting values (again that's Julia Set generally and *the* Julia Set specifically - the other way of viewing z^2+c where z and c are complex).So if you consider the Julibrot itself then even considered as a 4D object it can't be described as a true general Mandelbrot (or Julia) because it is a view of iterated orbits using both different functions and different starting points.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111038</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258296780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Also, trying to extend the Mandelbrot set to 3D is ill-defined as there is no good 3D algebra equivalent to the complex numbers (two, 1 and i) or quarternions (four, 1 and i, j, k) - hence you can't express the iteration formula in 3D.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , trying to extend the Mandelbrot set to 3D is ill-defined as there is no good 3D algebra equivalent to the complex numbers ( two , 1 and i ) or quarternions ( four , 1 and i , j , k ) - hence you ca n't express the iteration formula in 3D .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, trying to extend the Mandelbrot set to 3D is ill-defined as there is no good 3D algebra equivalent to the complex numbers (two, 1 and i) or quarternions (four, 1 and i, j, k) - hence you can't express the iteration formula in 3D.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30127840</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>billbaggins</author>
	<datestamp>1258466100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Technically true, but look beyond the formulae for a brief moment and look at what they're *doing* and you'll see the way out: his mechanism for computing [x,y,z]^n is to convert it to spherical coordinates [r,theta,phi], then do something similar to complex exponentiation - [r^n,theta*n,phi*n] - then convert that back to rectangular coordinates.  So rectangular [0,0,1] becomes polar [1,0,0], which squares to polar [1,0,0].
<p>
Makes sense as long as you think about it a little, but not too much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Technically true , but look beyond the formulae for a brief moment and look at what they 're * doing * and you 'll see the way out : his mechanism for computing [ x,y,z ] ^ n is to convert it to spherical coordinates [ r,theta,phi ] , then do something similar to complex exponentiation - [ r ^ n,theta * n,phi * n ] - then convert that back to rectangular coordinates .
So rectangular [ 0,0,1 ] becomes polar [ 1,0,0 ] , which squares to polar [ 1,0,0 ] .
Makes sense as long as you think about it a little , but not too much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Technically true, but look beyond the formulae for a brief moment and look at what they're *doing* and you'll see the way out: his mechanism for computing [x,y,z]^n is to convert it to spherical coordinates [r,theta,phi], then do something similar to complex exponentiation - [r^n,theta*n,phi*n] - then convert that back to rectangular coordinates.
So rectangular [0,0,1] becomes polar [1,0,0], which squares to polar [1,0,0].
Makes sense as long as you think about it a little, but not too much.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112034</id>
	<title>Re:Ice Cream From Uranus?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258306980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ice Cream From Uranus?  In accordance with that very popular rule of the Internet... there is another picture for that... a more illustrative one too.</p><p>Tub Girl.  Google It.  You're Welcome... bwahahahahahhahahahahhhahah!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ice Cream From Uranus ?
In accordance with that very popular rule of the Internet... there is another picture for that... a more illustrative one too.Tub Girl .
Google It .
You 're Welcome... bwahahahahahhahahahahhhahah !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ice Cream From Uranus?
In accordance with that very popular rule of the Internet... there is another picture for that... a more illustrative one too.Tub Girl.
Google It.
You're Welcome... bwahahahahahhahahahahhhahah!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111574</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>Garble Snarky</author>
	<datestamp>1258301760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was following the fractalforums thread for a while, and IIRC that is what a lot of the discussion focused on - "how can we define the squaring operation in 3D such that the Mandelbrot iterative equation gives us something like our vague notion of what we want the Mandelbulb to look like?"
<br> <br>
Site is down, but I got an email notification from fractalforums a few days ago, and they had some incredible results. The pursuit is at least as much aesthetic as it is mathematical, and in that respect they've succeeded marvelously.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was following the fractalforums thread for a while , and IIRC that is what a lot of the discussion focused on - " how can we define the squaring operation in 3D such that the Mandelbrot iterative equation gives us something like our vague notion of what we want the Mandelbulb to look like ?
" Site is down , but I got an email notification from fractalforums a few days ago , and they had some incredible results .
The pursuit is at least as much aesthetic as it is mathematical , and in that respect they 've succeeded marvelously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was following the fractalforums thread for a while, and IIRC that is what a lot of the discussion focused on - "how can we define the squaring operation in 3D such that the Mandelbrot iterative equation gives us something like our vague notion of what we want the Mandelbulb to look like?
"
 
Site is down, but I got an email notification from fractalforums a few days ago, and they had some incredible results.
The pursuit is at least as much aesthetic as it is mathematical, and in that respect they've succeeded marvelously.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30114234</id>
	<title>Re:Animated quaternion</title>
	<author>OeLeWaPpErKe</author>
	<datestamp>1258379580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to rain on your parade<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but the article's mandelbrot looks a hell of a lot more detailed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to rain on your parade ... but the article 's mandelbrot looks a hell of a lot more detailed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to rain on your parade ... but the article's mandelbrot looks a hell of a lot more detailed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112292</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30121222</id>
	<title>Re:w00t</title>
	<author>ConceptJunkie</author>
	<datestamp>1258365000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, I definitely thought of how this might be done using POV-Ray.  IANAM, I doubt you could make an isosurface version of the Mandelbulb, but POV-Ray is a full-blown programming language, so I'm sure something can be done.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , I definitely thought of how this might be done using POV-Ray .
IANAM , I doubt you could make an isosurface version of the Mandelbulb , but POV-Ray is a full-blown programming language , so I 'm sure something can be done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, I definitely thought of how this might be done using POV-Ray.
IANAM, I doubt you could make an isosurface version of the Mandelbulb, but POV-Ray is a full-blown programming language, so I'm sure something can be done.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111180</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112576</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>shadowofwind</author>
	<datestamp>1258314420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had missed a lot of interesting aspects of the 4D Julia/Mandelbrot combo when it was discovered, since computers were so much slower.   I wrote my first Mandelbrot program on a Kaypro in high school.  Used to run it over night just to get a 100x100 or so image, with low iterations.</p><p>The Mandelbrot set has those hairlike strands coming off of it, particularly at high resolution near pi radians.  Nearby Julia set fragments, so to speak, all connect through those strands.  Since the strand is between 1 and 2 dimensional in the Mandelbrot plane (having infinite arc length within a finite area, the strand within the 4-D coordinates is less than 4-D.  So you could almost see something interesting in 3-D there.  (Projected to 2-D of course.  People who say they see 3-D crack me up, since the back of the eye is a 2-D surface.)</p><p>By the way, I particularly like the logarithmic spirals.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had missed a lot of interesting aspects of the 4D Julia/Mandelbrot combo when it was discovered , since computers were so much slower .
I wrote my first Mandelbrot program on a Kaypro in high school .
Used to run it over night just to get a 100x100 or so image , with low iterations.The Mandelbrot set has those hairlike strands coming off of it , particularly at high resolution near pi radians .
Nearby Julia set fragments , so to speak , all connect through those strands .
Since the strand is between 1 and 2 dimensional in the Mandelbrot plane ( having infinite arc length within a finite area , the strand within the 4-D coordinates is less than 4-D. So you could almost see something interesting in 3-D there .
( Projected to 2-D of course .
People who say they see 3-D crack me up , since the back of the eye is a 2-D surface .
) By the way , I particularly like the logarithmic spirals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had missed a lot of interesting aspects of the 4D Julia/Mandelbrot combo when it was discovered, since computers were so much slower.
I wrote my first Mandelbrot program on a Kaypro in high school.
Used to run it over night just to get a 100x100 or so image, with low iterations.The Mandelbrot set has those hairlike strands coming off of it, particularly at high resolution near pi radians.
Nearby Julia set fragments, so to speak, all connect through those strands.
Since the strand is between 1 and 2 dimensional in the Mandelbrot plane (having infinite arc length within a finite area, the strand within the 4-D coordinates is less than 4-D.  So you could almost see something interesting in 3-D there.
(Projected to 2-D of course.
People who say they see 3-D crack me up, since the back of the eye is a 2-D surface.
)By the way, I particularly like the logarithmic spirals.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110486</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111180</id>
	<title>Re:w00t</title>
	<author>gr8\_phk</author>
	<datestamp>1258298640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Time to dig out my realtime raytracing library and do some voxel rendering<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Time to dig out my realtime raytracing library and do some voxel rendering : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Time to dig out my realtime raytracing library and do some voxel rendering :-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30120480</id>
	<title>Re:I realise this is probably a stupid question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258405140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem is that slices of quaternion mandelbrots look kinda boring. The result consists of lots of thin strings that fuse together rather than some sort of rough surface.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is that slices of quaternion mandelbrots look kinda boring .
The result consists of lots of thin strings that fuse together rather than some sort of rough surface .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is that slices of quaternion mandelbrots look kinda boring.
The result consists of lots of thin strings that fuse together rather than some sort of rough surface.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113344</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111730</id>
	<title>That's...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258303320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...one badass fucking fractal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...one badass fucking fractal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...one badass fucking fractal.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111642</id>
	<title>WOW!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258302360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now, <b>there's</b> a reason for an octacore and a few GPUs<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now , there 's a reason for an octacore and a few GPUs : -D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now, there's a reason for an octacore and a few GPUs :-D</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30116122</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>Twinbee</author>
	<datestamp>1258390560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Strictly speaking, it gives 2 x 2D vision. If you could really see in 3D, you'd be able to see through stuff, and all at once. It'd be a very different sensation with masses more information being received by the brain/eyes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Strictly speaking , it gives 2 x 2D vision .
If you could really see in 3D , you 'd be able to see through stuff , and all at once .
It 'd be a very different sensation with masses more information being received by the brain/eyes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Strictly speaking, it gives 2 x 2D vision.
If you could really see in 3D, you'd be able to see through stuff, and all at once.
It'd be a very different sensation with masses more information being received by the brain/eyes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113042</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111292</id>
	<title>Oddly Familiar</title>
	<author>Tablizer</author>
	<datestamp>1258299600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I swear I've seen the first 3 already when I accidentally ran over a toad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I swear I 've seen the first 3 already when I accidentally ran over a toad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I swear I've seen the first 3 already when I accidentally ran over a toad.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30115070</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>tsalmark</author>
	<datestamp>1258386000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, that's beautiful. Thanks for sharing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , that 's beautiful .
Thanks for sharing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, that's beautiful.
Thanks for sharing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110740</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110486</id>
	<title>Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258291320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While the Mandelbrot set as usually defined is 2D, each point has an associated Julia set, where instead of the additive constant, the starting point is varied (the original Mandelbrot set always uses zero as starting point). Together, they give a 4-dimensional set, where two dimensions are given by the starting point (zr, zi), and the other two by the additive constant (cr, ci). The original Mandelbrot set is a cut through this 4D set at the plane zr=zi=0, while the Julia sets are cuts orthogonal to theat, at planes with constant cr and ci.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While the Mandelbrot set as usually defined is 2D , each point has an associated Julia set , where instead of the additive constant , the starting point is varied ( the original Mandelbrot set always uses zero as starting point ) .
Together , they give a 4-dimensional set , where two dimensions are given by the starting point ( zr , zi ) , and the other two by the additive constant ( cr , ci ) .
The original Mandelbrot set is a cut through this 4D set at the plane zr = zi = 0 , while the Julia sets are cuts orthogonal to theat , at planes with constant cr and ci .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While the Mandelbrot set as usually defined is 2D, each point has an associated Julia set, where instead of the additive constant, the starting point is varied (the original Mandelbrot set always uses zero as starting point).
Together, they give a 4-dimensional set, where two dimensions are given by the starting point (zr, zi), and the other two by the additive constant (cr, ci).
The original Mandelbrot set is a cut through this 4D set at the plane zr=zi=0, while the Julia sets are cuts orthogonal to theat, at planes with constant cr and ci.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111796</id>
	<title>Re:w00t</title>
	<author>six11</author>
	<datestamp>1258304220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thanks for this. It takes me back to 1991 or so when I discovered fractals and suddenly didn't detest math any more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks for this .
It takes me back to 1991 or so when I discovered fractals and suddenly did n't detest math any more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks for this.
It takes me back to 1991 or so when I discovered fractals and suddenly didn't detest math any more.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110518</id>
	<title>Ice Cream From Uranus?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258291560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That ruined it for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That ruined it for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That ruined it for me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113344</id>
	<title>I realise this is probably a stupid question</title>
	<author>boristhespider</author>
	<datestamp>1258368060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>and doubtless the people who did this work have a very good reason not to do this, but why waste your time on a problem they've already accepted is ill-defined? Why not just make a 4D Mandelhyperbulb and then take slices through it? That way you could actually say that you *do* have a higher-dimensional Mandelbrot set, and still have 3D figures that you can render on a computer screen. This arbitrary "Let's make a 3D Mandelbulb by, err, fucking about a bit and not actually doing anything properly" is remarkably unsatisfactory -- and they seem to acknowledge that themselves.</htmltext>
<tokenext>and doubtless the people who did this work have a very good reason not to do this , but why waste your time on a problem they 've already accepted is ill-defined ?
Why not just make a 4D Mandelhyperbulb and then take slices through it ?
That way you could actually say that you * do * have a higher-dimensional Mandelbrot set , and still have 3D figures that you can render on a computer screen .
This arbitrary " Let 's make a 3D Mandelbulb by , err , fucking about a bit and not actually doing anything properly " is remarkably unsatisfactory -- and they seem to acknowledge that themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and doubtless the people who did this work have a very good reason not to do this, but why waste your time on a problem they've already accepted is ill-defined?
Why not just make a 4D Mandelhyperbulb and then take slices through it?
That way you could actually say that you *do* have a higher-dimensional Mandelbrot set, and still have 3D figures that you can render on a computer screen.
This arbitrary "Let's make a 3D Mandelbulb by, err, fucking about a bit and not actually doing anything properly" is remarkably unsatisfactory -- and they seem to acknowledge that themselves.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111622</id>
	<title>Re:Ice Cream From Uranus?</title>
	<author>inio</author>
	<datestamp>1258302180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I came here to say that.  Seriously great work until the 2G1C reference.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I came here to say that .
Seriously great work until the 2G1C reference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I came here to say that.
Seriously great work until the 2G1C reference.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110518</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112836</id>
	<title>look</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258404300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>at the bottom of this image: <a href="http://mandelbulb.s3.amazonaws.com/full/q50/Mandel3Dpersp-med.jpg" title="amazonaws.com" rel="nofollow">http://mandelbulb.s3.amazonaws.com/full/q50/Mandel3Dpersp-med.jpg</a> [amazonaws.com]</p><p>jesus in a toast!</p><p>he says to make more fractals nom nom nom</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>at the bottom of this image : http : //mandelbulb.s3.amazonaws.com/full/q50/Mandel3Dpersp-med.jpg [ amazonaws.com ] jesus in a toast ! he says to make more fractals nom nom nom</tokentext>
<sentencetext>at the bottom of this image: http://mandelbulb.s3.amazonaws.com/full/q50/Mandel3Dpersp-med.jpg [amazonaws.com]jesus in a toast!he says to make more fractals nom nom nom</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110486</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30125622</id>
	<title>Re:Flashback</title>
	<author>dotar</author>
	<datestamp>1258391040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I tell you what, fractalling wasn't a particularly pleasant experience (to put it mildly), but I never really understood fractals until then.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I tell you what , fractalling was n't a particularly pleasant experience ( to put it mildly ) , but I never really understood fractals until then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tell you what, fractalling wasn't a particularly pleasant experience (to put it mildly), but I never really understood fractals until then.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110580</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30127038</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1258452540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The actual visual content is discrete: It consists of a finite number of neurons firing a certain sequence of pulses. While the information comes indeed from 2D images in the eyes, that's not the visual content. The visual content is the activity of the neurons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The actual visual content is discrete : It consists of a finite number of neurons firing a certain sequence of pulses .
While the information comes indeed from 2D images in the eyes , that 's not the visual content .
The visual content is the activity of the neurons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The actual visual content is discrete: It consists of a finite number of neurons firing a certain sequence of pulses.
While the information comes indeed from 2D images in the eyes, that's not the visual content.
The visual content is the activity of the neurons.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30115590</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30123120</id>
	<title>Animated in 3d</title>
	<author>nycheetah</author>
	<datestamp>1258372260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is it possible to see the 3d fractals rendered and animated?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it possible to see the 3d fractals rendered and animated ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it possible to see the 3d fractals rendered and animated?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30113042</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1258363860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>People who say they see 3-D crack me up, since the back of the eye is a 2-D surface.</p></div></blockquote><p>But most people have two eyes, and the parallax between them gives the third dimension.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>People who say they see 3-D crack me up , since the back of the eye is a 2-D surface.But most people have two eyes , and the parallax between them gives the third dimension .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People who say they see 3-D crack me up, since the back of the eye is a 2-D surface.But most people have two eyes, and the parallax between them gives the third dimension.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112576</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30112194</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>SoVeryTired</author>
	<datestamp>1258309140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They defined a way of multiplying points in 2-space equivalent to the "stretch and rotate" interpretation of complex multiplication. The formula for (x,y,z)^2 is given at the top of <a href="http://www.bugman123.com/Hypercomplex/index.html" title="bugman123.com">this</a> [bugman123.com] page.</p><p>It doesn't have the same mathematical structure as the complex plane, but as the article suggested, it may be the case that the "stretch and rotate" property is all you need.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They defined a way of multiplying points in 2-space equivalent to the " stretch and rotate " interpretation of complex multiplication .
The formula for ( x,y,z ) ^ 2 is given at the top of this [ bugman123.com ] page.It does n't have the same mathematical structure as the complex plane , but as the article suggested , it may be the case that the " stretch and rotate " property is all you need .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They defined a way of multiplying points in 2-space equivalent to the "stretch and rotate" interpretation of complex multiplication.
The formula for (x,y,z)^2 is given at the top of this [bugman123.com] page.It doesn't have the same mathematical structure as the complex plane, but as the article suggested, it may be the case that the "stretch and rotate" property is all you need.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30111038</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30211828</id>
	<title>Re:What if the "true" set is more mundane?</title>
	<author>Twinbee</author>
	<datestamp>1259065920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi can you possibly take a photo, and send it to me?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi can you possibly take a photo , and send it to me ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi can you possibly take a photo, and send it to me?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30110928</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30121560</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, the Mandelbrot set is already 4D</title>
	<author>Twinbee</author>
	<datestamp>1258366500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've argued the same thing for ages - you're completely right of course. Glad I'm not the only one...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've argued the same thing for ages - you 're completely right of course .
Glad I 'm not the only one.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've argued the same thing for ages - you're completely right of course.
Glad I'm not the only one...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30115590</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_15_2032233.30118908</id>
	<title>Lets call it Beta</title>
	<author>zintli</author>
	<datestamp>1258400400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously?<br>

A 3D fractal and nobody mentions Defying Gravity??
<br>
So I really am the only person that watches that show.
<br>
*Sigh*</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously ?
A 3D fractal and nobody mentions Defying Gravity ? ?
So I really am the only person that watches that show .
* Sigh *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously?
A 3D fractal and nobody mentions Defying Gravity??
So I really am the only person that watches that show.
*Sigh*</sentencetext>
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	<title>That thing looks like all of my nightmares.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258291560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You could put it in a horror movie and make it pulsate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You could put it in a horror movie and make it pulsate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could put it in a horror movie and make it pulsate.</sentencetext>
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