<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_13_2329235</id>
	<title>Time To Ditch Cable For Internet TV?</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1258116900000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>itwbennett writes <i>"A flurry of announcements from YouTube, Boxee, Dell and Clicker on Thursday brought good news for anyone considering <a href="http://www.itworld.com/personal-tech/84657/time-ditch-your-cable-company-new-internet-tv-services-announced">canceling their cable service in favor of internet TV</a>. First, YouTube announced that within the next few days it will start offering full 1080P HD streams; better than your cable company can offer. Next, Boxee announced a '<a href="http://blog.boxee.tv/2009/11/12/a-boxee-box-is-coming/">Boxee Box</a>' that promises to make it easier to get the content off your computer and onto your TV. Or you could hook up Dell's <a href="http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/inspiron-zino-hd">Inspiron Zino HD</a> instead. 'This is an 8" x 8" PC running Windows 7 (with an option for Ubuntu) that you certainly could use as a desktop machine, but the form factor just screams 'Hook me up to your TV!' via its HDMI port,' says Peter Smith. And, last but not least in this roundup of announcements is the launch of <a href="http://www.clicker.com/">Clicker</a>, a programming guide for internet TV that aims to help you find what you want, when you want it."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>itwbennett writes " A flurry of announcements from YouTube , Boxee , Dell and Clicker on Thursday brought good news for anyone considering canceling their cable service in favor of internet TV .
First , YouTube announced that within the next few days it will start offering full 1080P HD streams ; better than your cable company can offer .
Next , Boxee announced a 'Boxee Box ' that promises to make it easier to get the content off your computer and onto your TV .
Or you could hook up Dell 's Inspiron Zino HD instead .
'This is an 8 " x 8 " PC running Windows 7 ( with an option for Ubuntu ) that you certainly could use as a desktop machine , but the form factor just screams 'Hook me up to your TV !
' via its HDMI port, ' says Peter Smith .
And , last but not least in this roundup of announcements is the launch of Clicker , a programming guide for internet TV that aims to help you find what you want , when you want it .
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<sentencetext>itwbennett writes "A flurry of announcements from YouTube, Boxee, Dell and Clicker on Thursday brought good news for anyone considering canceling their cable service in favor of internet TV.
First, YouTube announced that within the next few days it will start offering full 1080P HD streams; better than your cable company can offer.
Next, Boxee announced a 'Boxee Box' that promises to make it easier to get the content off your computer and onto your TV.
Or you could hook up Dell's Inspiron Zino HD instead.
'This is an 8" x 8" PC running Windows 7 (with an option for Ubuntu) that you certainly could use as a desktop machine, but the form factor just screams 'Hook me up to your TV!
' via its HDMI port,' says Peter Smith.
And, last but not least in this roundup of announcements is the launch of Clicker, a programming guide for internet TV that aims to help you find what you want, when you want it.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093866</id>
	<title>I'm sorry.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258120560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Next, Boxee announced a 'Boxee Box' that promises to make it easier to get the content off your computer and onto your TV.</p></div> </blockquote><p>
Good luck.  I'm hiding behind 7 of them right now!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Next , Boxee announced a 'Boxee Box ' that promises to make it easier to get the content off your computer and onto your TV .
Good luck .
I 'm hiding behind 7 of them right now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Next, Boxee announced a 'Boxee Box' that promises to make it easier to get the content off your computer and onto your TV.
Good luck.
I'm hiding behind 7 of them right now!
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094460</id>
	<title>Re:Was the internet meant for this?</title>
	<author>FrankieBaby1986</author>
	<datestamp>1258126260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, imagine how much internet bandwidth will be available in the existing cable tv infrastructure once ALL broadcast channels go away, and PPV and etc.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , imagine how much internet bandwidth will be available in the existing cable tv infrastructure once ALL broadcast channels go away , and PPV and etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, imagine how much internet bandwidth will be available in the existing cable tv infrastructure once ALL broadcast channels go away, and PPV and etc.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093982</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094136</id>
	<title>I made the switch</title>
	<author>tool462</author>
	<datestamp>1258122720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I made the switch about 2 months ago, once FiOS become available in my neighborhood.  With the 20Mbps pipe to the house, and full HD digital TV signal available OTA, we had no further use for cable.  The vast majority of shows we watch are either broadcast TV or available online (legally).</p><p>We have an AppleTV and an HD TiVo connected to the TV, so between those we can watch TV and movies using:<br>iTunes<br>Netflix Instant Queue<br>Amazon Unbox<br>Boxee (for Hulu, Comedy Central, etc)</p><p>The variety of options makes up for the shortcomings of any individual service.</p><p>The OTA digital signal is better than our digital cable signal was, too, which is a nice bonus.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I made the switch about 2 months ago , once FiOS become available in my neighborhood .
With the 20Mbps pipe to the house , and full HD digital TV signal available OTA , we had no further use for cable .
The vast majority of shows we watch are either broadcast TV or available online ( legally ) .We have an AppleTV and an HD TiVo connected to the TV , so between those we can watch TV and movies using : iTunesNetflix Instant QueueAmazon UnboxBoxee ( for Hulu , Comedy Central , etc ) The variety of options makes up for the shortcomings of any individual service.The OTA digital signal is better than our digital cable signal was , too , which is a nice bonus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I made the switch about 2 months ago, once FiOS become available in my neighborhood.
With the 20Mbps pipe to the house, and full HD digital TV signal available OTA, we had no further use for cable.
The vast majority of shows we watch are either broadcast TV or available online (legally).We have an AppleTV and an HD TiVo connected to the TV, so between those we can watch TV and movies using:iTunesNetflix Instant QueueAmazon UnboxBoxee (for Hulu, Comedy Central, etc)The variety of options makes up for the shortcomings of any individual service.The OTA digital signal is better than our digital cable signal was, too, which is a nice bonus.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094470</id>
	<title>What difference does it make?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258126440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's still all niggers and fags.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's still all niggers and fags .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's still all niggers and fags.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094312</id>
	<title>I ditched TV in 1998</title>
	<author>JoeMerchant</author>
	<datestamp>1258124700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, I've never paid for cable TV (got my own place in 1992 and just installed an antenna), so maybe I'm not their target demographic anyway.<br> <br>

Last night I watched a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrCVu25wQ5s" title="youtube.com">35 minute lecture by Robert Sapolsky on YouTube</a> [youtube.com] the night before, a random <a href="http://www.ted.com/" title="ted.com">TED</a> [ted.com] talk.  The night before that, <a href="http://hulu.com/" title="hulu.com">hulu</a> [hulu.com], and Netflix has been cheaper than premium cable forever.  My parents-in-law gave up their TV in about 2001 and we gave them a cheap PC and Netflix subscription instead, they love it.<br> <br>

Yeah, cable service has been as dead to me for a long long time now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , I 've never paid for cable TV ( got my own place in 1992 and just installed an antenna ) , so maybe I 'm not their target demographic anyway .
Last night I watched a 35 minute lecture by Robert Sapolsky on YouTube [ youtube.com ] the night before , a random TED [ ted.com ] talk .
The night before that , hulu [ hulu.com ] , and Netflix has been cheaper than premium cable forever .
My parents-in-law gave up their TV in about 2001 and we gave them a cheap PC and Netflix subscription instead , they love it .
Yeah , cable service has been as dead to me for a long long time now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, I've never paid for cable TV (got my own place in 1992 and just installed an antenna), so maybe I'm not their target demographic anyway.
Last night I watched a 35 minute lecture by Robert Sapolsky on YouTube [youtube.com] the night before, a random TED [ted.com] talk.
The night before that, hulu [hulu.com], and Netflix has been cheaper than premium cable forever.
My parents-in-law gave up their TV in about 2001 and we gave them a cheap PC and Netflix subscription instead, they love it.
Yeah, cable service has been as dead to me for a long long time now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30095272</id>
	<title>censored content</title>
	<author>Hellswaters</author>
	<datestamp>1258137060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not going to happen until the borders are eliminated over the internet. 99\% of the LEGAL (aka not torrent) content is only to Americans. Everyone else gets the shaft.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not going to happen until the borders are eliminated over the internet .
99 \ % of the LEGAL ( aka not torrent ) content is only to Americans .
Everyone else gets the shaft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not going to happen until the borders are eliminated over the internet.
99\% of the LEGAL (aka not torrent) content is only to Americans.
Everyone else gets the shaft.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094484</id>
	<title>Inspiron Zino HD - no 5.1</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258126620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looks like 2.1 audio only on the ZinoHD, and not internally upgradeable.  So to use it as an HTPC, you would need an external 5.1 audio card.</p><p>Surprised that the ZinoHD has 2 eSata ports though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like 2.1 audio only on the ZinoHD , and not internally upgradeable .
So to use it as an HTPC , you would need an external 5.1 audio card.Surprised that the ZinoHD has 2 eSata ports though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like 2.1 audio only on the ZinoHD, and not internally upgradeable.
So to use it as an HTPC, you would need an external 5.1 audio card.Surprised that the ZinoHD has 2 eSata ports though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30097522</id>
	<title>Re:The cable co will just set low caps. also live</title>
	<author>Mashiki</author>
	<datestamp>1258214160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The cable co will just set low caps</p></div></blockquote><p>Well that's what they did in Canada.  My ISP has a 60gb/mo cap, so does their next competitor(bell) on DSL.  I'd end up paying oh $20ish a month more for 20gb extra.  Yet they're both happy to have VOD services that use your internet connection and suck up your bandwidth.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The cable co will just set low capsWell that 's what they did in Canada .
My ISP has a 60gb/mo cap , so does their next competitor ( bell ) on DSL .
I 'd end up paying oh $ 20ish a month more for 20gb extra .
Yet they 're both happy to have VOD services that use your internet connection and suck up your bandwidth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The cable co will just set low capsWell that's what they did in Canada.
My ISP has a 60gb/mo cap, so does their next competitor(bell) on DSL.
I'd end up paying oh $20ish a month more for 20gb extra.
Yet they're both happy to have VOD services that use your internet connection and suck up your bandwidth.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093934</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094516</id>
	<title>Home Theater PCs and Cable</title>
	<author>PJC1</author>
	<datestamp>1258126920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just when Internet TV and HD OTA are gaining popularity the cable companies are making it more difficult to get cable content on your PC.  Currently I have an NTSC/clear QAM tuner which receives about 70 digital and analog channels (the same channels are simulcast).  Soon however, Comcast will be dropping the analog channels besides the local broadcast and PEG stations (if they haven't already in your area).  Also, I've heard they will begin encrypting all digital besides the locals, since the FCC approved their proposed encryption scheme for their DTAs.  So now you either need use CableCard (few tuners available and only works with Windows Media Center) or you need to use a cable box and an IR blaster (not as high quality as the digital signal must be decoded and encoded again plus the additional rental fee for an extra receiver).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just when Internet TV and HD OTA are gaining popularity the cable companies are making it more difficult to get cable content on your PC .
Currently I have an NTSC/clear QAM tuner which receives about 70 digital and analog channels ( the same channels are simulcast ) .
Soon however , Comcast will be dropping the analog channels besides the local broadcast and PEG stations ( if they have n't already in your area ) .
Also , I 've heard they will begin encrypting all digital besides the locals , since the FCC approved their proposed encryption scheme for their DTAs .
So now you either need use CableCard ( few tuners available and only works with Windows Media Center ) or you need to use a cable box and an IR blaster ( not as high quality as the digital signal must be decoded and encoded again plus the additional rental fee for an extra receiver ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just when Internet TV and HD OTA are gaining popularity the cable companies are making it more difficult to get cable content on your PC.
Currently I have an NTSC/clear QAM tuner which receives about 70 digital and analog channels (the same channels are simulcast).
Soon however, Comcast will be dropping the analog channels besides the local broadcast and PEG stations (if they haven't already in your area).
Also, I've heard they will begin encrypting all digital besides the locals, since the FCC approved their proposed encryption scheme for their DTAs.
So now you either need use CableCard (few tuners available and only works with Windows Media Center) or you need to use a cable box and an IR blaster (not as high quality as the digital signal must be decoded and encoded again plus the additional rental fee for an extra receiver).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30097822</id>
	<title>Bandwidth caps?</title>
	<author>QuietLagoon</author>
	<datestamp>1258216980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The ISP will love the excess bandwidth usage charges.....</htmltext>
<tokenext>The ISP will love the excess bandwidth usage charges.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The ISP will love the excess bandwidth usage charges.....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30095296</id>
	<title>Re:Using cable to distribute video</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1258137360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just recently cancelled my cable and signed up for Netflix, and I have to say it's working pretty well for me.  I play stuff on my TV via a PS3, and it's pretty close to what I think video should be.  Big selection, I can play whatever I want whenever I want however much I want, and the monthly cost isn't very much.  They only way I can think of off-hand to improve it would be to make everything available for streaming, and to have all TV episodes for every show available at their normal air date.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just recently cancelled my cable and signed up for Netflix , and I have to say it 's working pretty well for me .
I play stuff on my TV via a PS3 , and it 's pretty close to what I think video should be .
Big selection , I can play whatever I want whenever I want however much I want , and the monthly cost is n't very much .
They only way I can think of off-hand to improve it would be to make everything available for streaming , and to have all TV episodes for every show available at their normal air date .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just recently cancelled my cable and signed up for Netflix, and I have to say it's working pretty well for me.
I play stuff on my TV via a PS3, and it's pretty close to what I think video should be.
Big selection, I can play whatever I want whenever I want however much I want, and the monthly cost isn't very much.
They only way I can think of off-hand to improve it would be to make everything available for streaming, and to have all TV episodes for every show available at their normal air date.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093916</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094984</id>
	<title>Re:Not in Canada anyways</title>
	<author>Xaximus</author>
	<datestamp>1258132500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm in the same boat. I might purchase a subscription with a VPN service, but I don't know how much of a hassle, or how reliable it might be.  Of course, our bandwidth might get a whole lot more expensive and/or limited in the coming weeks, so that would make this possibility even more remote.

I'm wanting to ditch satellite TV though, so I'm planning on buying and installing an antenna, as well as an HTPC with a dual-tuner.  I should be able to grab most of the major networks in Toronto and Buffalo.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm in the same boat .
I might purchase a subscription with a VPN service , but I do n't know how much of a hassle , or how reliable it might be .
Of course , our bandwidth might get a whole lot more expensive and/or limited in the coming weeks , so that would make this possibility even more remote .
I 'm wanting to ditch satellite TV though , so I 'm planning on buying and installing an antenna , as well as an HTPC with a dual-tuner .
I should be able to grab most of the major networks in Toronto and Buffalo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm in the same boat.
I might purchase a subscription with a VPN service, but I don't know how much of a hassle, or how reliable it might be.
Of course, our bandwidth might get a whole lot more expensive and/or limited in the coming weeks, so that would make this possibility even more remote.
I'm wanting to ditch satellite TV though, so I'm planning on buying and installing an antenna, as well as an HTPC with a dual-tuner.
I should be able to grab most of the major networks in Toronto and Buffalo.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094260</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30122306</id>
	<title>Re:Was the internet meant for this?</title>
	<author>flabordec</author>
	<datestamp>1258368840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>(8) Video killed the internet star, video killed the internet star (8)</htmltext>
<tokenext>( 8 ) Video killed the internet star , video killed the internet star ( 8 )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(8) Video killed the internet star, video killed the internet star (8)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093982</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094436</id>
	<title>Time? You're 7 years late!</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1258125840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I ditched TV entirely in 2002, when I noticed that I could switch trough all the channels on a random evening, and find nothing even remotely worth watching. Besides, it's not as if I got any real news from there anyway.</p><p>I switched to the obvious: eDonkey and BitTorrent (with mldonkey) for TV shows.<br>And RSS websites for news. (Well, going to news sites, as RSS was not used much yet.) Nowadays many of those are called "blogs".<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>I must say that while I miss some "old media only" news/"scandals", etc, which I'm not interested in much anyway, I'm very happy with my descision.<br>Instead of sitting in front of a device that allows passive usage only, I get to really deal with the subjects. Like commenting on news stories. (I avoid sites without comment functionality like the plague.) Or going to forums to talk/read about a TV show afterwards.</p><p>In my opinion my level of intelligence and education grew extremely trough all the things I learned by thinking and discussing things with others.<br>So it's pretty strange to get together with TV-only people and see them watch something like "big brother" or another pointless stupid mind-numbingly boring plastic fantastic show, or fake "real news". It's impossible to discuss things with them, since they have no idea of what's really going on in the world, or in general. You only hear those pre-formed mass-opinions that everyone of them thinks are the correct ones, without them putting a single thought into asking or answering question.</p><p>Also I play a lot more games, which belong in the same category as TV shows anyway.</p><p>So as a summary, I can only say:<br>Improve yourself! Throw away your TV! (If you must have a big screen, buy a beamer. ^^)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ditched TV entirely in 2002 , when I noticed that I could switch trough all the channels on a random evening , and find nothing even remotely worth watching .
Besides , it 's not as if I got any real news from there anyway.I switched to the obvious : eDonkey and BitTorrent ( with mldonkey ) for TV shows.And RSS websites for news .
( Well , going to news sites , as RSS was not used much yet .
) Nowadays many of those are called " blogs " .
: ) I must say that while I miss some " old media only " news/ " scandals " , etc , which I 'm not interested in much anyway , I 'm very happy with my descision.Instead of sitting in front of a device that allows passive usage only , I get to really deal with the subjects .
Like commenting on news stories .
( I avoid sites without comment functionality like the plague .
) Or going to forums to talk/read about a TV show afterwards.In my opinion my level of intelligence and education grew extremely trough all the things I learned by thinking and discussing things with others.So it 's pretty strange to get together with TV-only people and see them watch something like " big brother " or another pointless stupid mind-numbingly boring plastic fantastic show , or fake " real news " .
It 's impossible to discuss things with them , since they have no idea of what 's really going on in the world , or in general .
You only hear those pre-formed mass-opinions that everyone of them thinks are the correct ones , without them putting a single thought into asking or answering question.Also I play a lot more games , which belong in the same category as TV shows anyway.So as a summary , I can only say : Improve yourself !
Throw away your TV !
( If you must have a big screen , buy a beamer .
^ ^ )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I ditched TV entirely in 2002, when I noticed that I could switch trough all the channels on a random evening, and find nothing even remotely worth watching.
Besides, it's not as if I got any real news from there anyway.I switched to the obvious: eDonkey and BitTorrent (with mldonkey) for TV shows.And RSS websites for news.
(Well, going to news sites, as RSS was not used much yet.
) Nowadays many of those are called "blogs".
:)I must say that while I miss some "old media only" news/"scandals", etc, which I'm not interested in much anyway, I'm very happy with my descision.Instead of sitting in front of a device that allows passive usage only, I get to really deal with the subjects.
Like commenting on news stories.
(I avoid sites without comment functionality like the plague.
) Or going to forums to talk/read about a TV show afterwards.In my opinion my level of intelligence and education grew extremely trough all the things I learned by thinking and discussing things with others.So it's pretty strange to get together with TV-only people and see them watch something like "big brother" or another pointless stupid mind-numbingly boring plastic fantastic show, or fake "real news".
It's impossible to discuss things with them, since they have no idea of what's really going on in the world, or in general.
You only hear those pre-formed mass-opinions that everyone of them thinks are the correct ones, without them putting a single thought into asking or answering question.Also I play a lot more games, which belong in the same category as TV shows anyway.So as a summary, I can only say:Improve yourself!
Throw away your TV!
(If you must have a big screen, buy a beamer.
^^)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30110912</id>
	<title>What about the Beagle Board</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258295580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Take a look at the Beagle Board. You'll need to hook it up to an external USB hard drive, but it's tiny, fan-less, has accelerated MPEG playing (via on-baord DSP), and has an HDMI port.</p><p>http://beagleboard.org/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Take a look at the Beagle Board .
You 'll need to hook it up to an external USB hard drive , but it 's tiny , fan-less , has accelerated MPEG playing ( via on-baord DSP ) , and has an HDMI port.http : //beagleboard.org/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take a look at the Beagle Board.
You'll need to hook it up to an external USB hard drive, but it's tiny, fan-less, has accelerated MPEG playing (via on-baord DSP), and has an HDMI port.http://beagleboard.org/</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093894</id>
	<title>I've canceled mine</title>
	<author>LiQiuD</author>
	<datestamp>1258120740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've canceled my cable, and I don't think I'll go back.  It's me, my 3 kids, and my wife.  They have all adjusted to streaming from Netflix and Hulu.  About the only downside is missing out on life sporting events.  I'm contemplating just adding a tuner card to my HTPC, and then getting those over the air. <br> <br>

Overall I'm very happy with the new setup though, it is saving me about $100/month (canceled phone as well) and we still watch the same shows.  Of course YMMV.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've canceled my cable , and I do n't think I 'll go back .
It 's me , my 3 kids , and my wife .
They have all adjusted to streaming from Netflix and Hulu .
About the only downside is missing out on life sporting events .
I 'm contemplating just adding a tuner card to my HTPC , and then getting those over the air .
Overall I 'm very happy with the new setup though , it is saving me about $ 100/month ( canceled phone as well ) and we still watch the same shows .
Of course YMMV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've canceled my cable, and I don't think I'll go back.
It's me, my 3 kids, and my wife.
They have all adjusted to streaming from Netflix and Hulu.
About the only downside is missing out on life sporting events.
I'm contemplating just adding a tuner card to my HTPC, and then getting those over the air.
Overall I'm very happy with the new setup though, it is saving me about $100/month (canceled phone as well) and we still watch the same shows.
Of course YMMV.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093974</id>
	<title>Flat.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258121280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Eight by Eight inch!<br>That's sixty-four square inches!<br>That's no volume at all! Brilliant! This would be brilliant for rackserving, but I guess the reduced surface would induce thermal death pretty quickly, if stacked densely. Leaving an eight by eight inch space in between might be a solution to provide cooling...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Eight by Eight inch ! That 's sixty-four square inches ! That 's no volume at all !
Brilliant ! This would be brilliant for rackserving , but I guess the reduced surface would induce thermal death pretty quickly , if stacked densely .
Leaving an eight by eight inch space in between might be a solution to provide cooling.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eight by Eight inch!That's sixty-four square inches!That's no volume at all!
Brilliant! This would be brilliant for rackserving, but I guess the reduced surface would induce thermal death pretty quickly, if stacked densely.
Leaving an eight by eight inch space in between might be a solution to provide cooling...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094288</id>
	<title>A better question:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258124460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it time to ditch Hulu for Clicker.com?</p><p>The PVR functionality of Clicker makes it a no brainer for me (as I'm sure it will many others).  But there's a larger issue here, and that's that the nature of online services is changing quickly towards more of a quasi-ownership model of the media -- which reduces the amount of control the networks have even more.</p><p><a href="http://tekobot.com/better-than-hulu-clicker-com-launches-new-comprehensive-new-web-tv-and-movie-aggregator-service/" title="tekobot.com">http://tekobot.com/better-than-hulu-clicker-com-launches-new-comprehensive-new-web-tv-and-movie-aggregator-service/</a> [tekobot.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it time to ditch Hulu for Clicker.com ? The PVR functionality of Clicker makes it a no brainer for me ( as I 'm sure it will many others ) .
But there 's a larger issue here , and that 's that the nature of online services is changing quickly towards more of a quasi-ownership model of the media -- which reduces the amount of control the networks have even more.http : //tekobot.com/better-than-hulu-clicker-com-launches-new-comprehensive-new-web-tv-and-movie-aggregator-service/ [ tekobot.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it time to ditch Hulu for Clicker.com?The PVR functionality of Clicker makes it a no brainer for me (as I'm sure it will many others).
But there's a larger issue here, and that's that the nature of online services is changing quickly towards more of a quasi-ownership model of the media -- which reduces the amount of control the networks have even more.http://tekobot.com/better-than-hulu-clicker-com-launches-new-comprehensive-new-web-tv-and-movie-aggregator-service/ [tekobot.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30096532</id>
	<title>Re:Is it live, or is it Memorex</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258203720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>the average person watches an astonishing eight hours of television per day</p></div><p>Off topic, but: don't be that guy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the average person watches an astonishing eight hours of television per dayOff topic , but : do n't be that guy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the average person watches an astonishing eight hours of television per dayOff topic, but: don't be that guy.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094158</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094260</id>
	<title>Not in Canada anyways</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258123980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hulu shows are locked to U.S.A I.P addresses.</p><p>I'm thinking of ditching Cable for BitTorrent if I genuinely can't buy what I want legitimately...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hulu shows are locked to U.S.A I.P addresses.I 'm thinking of ditching Cable for BitTorrent if I genuinely ca n't buy what I want legitimately.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hulu shows are locked to U.S.A I.P addresses.I'm thinking of ditching Cable for BitTorrent if I genuinely can't buy what I want legitimately...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30095470</id>
	<title>Re:I've canceled mine</title>
	<author>Z00L00K</author>
	<datestamp>1258140360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I also scrapped my cable now, but I haven't even considered the Netflix or Hulu options.</p><p>I'll have to survive without the Discovery Channel, which is about the only thing I miss out on now.</p><p>The main reason for me to scrap was that the channels provided started to get really crappy (among that Eurosport lost MotoGP and started to send a lot of football) and any good channels were requiring an extra payment. In addition to this the agreement was updated and went down the drain for me as a customer so I took the safe route and canceled before the new agreement went into effect since the new agreement was turning into a slave agreement.</p><p>Cable companies wants us as mindless slaves paying in blood.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I also scrapped my cable now , but I have n't even considered the Netflix or Hulu options.I 'll have to survive without the Discovery Channel , which is about the only thing I miss out on now.The main reason for me to scrap was that the channels provided started to get really crappy ( among that Eurosport lost MotoGP and started to send a lot of football ) and any good channels were requiring an extra payment .
In addition to this the agreement was updated and went down the drain for me as a customer so I took the safe route and canceled before the new agreement went into effect since the new agreement was turning into a slave agreement.Cable companies wants us as mindless slaves paying in blood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also scrapped my cable now, but I haven't even considered the Netflix or Hulu options.I'll have to survive without the Discovery Channel, which is about the only thing I miss out on now.The main reason for me to scrap was that the channels provided started to get really crappy (among that Eurosport lost MotoGP and started to send a lot of football) and any good channels were requiring an extra payment.
In addition to this the agreement was updated and went down the drain for me as a customer so I took the safe route and canceled before the new agreement went into effect since the new agreement was turning into a slave agreement.Cable companies wants us as mindless slaves paying in blood.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093894</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094944</id>
	<title>Re:Telecoms...</title>
	<author>shacky003</author>
	<datestamp>1258131900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If they see a shift, guess what: internet bandwidth costs will go up.</p></div><p> They already do this - Comcast and Time Warner charge extra for net service when you don't bundle video ($10-30 more per month)<br> <br>Similar to what Verizon does with DSL if you don't order their voice service..</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If they see a shift , guess what : internet bandwidth costs will go up .
They already do this - Comcast and Time Warner charge extra for net service when you do n't bundle video ( $ 10-30 more per month ) Similar to what Verizon does with DSL if you do n't order their voice service. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they see a shift, guess what: internet bandwidth costs will go up.
They already do this - Comcast and Time Warner charge extra for net service when you don't bundle video ($10-30 more per month) Similar to what Verizon does with DSL if you don't order their voice service..
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094036</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30095416</id>
	<title>Done it</title>
	<author>hoggoth</author>
	<datestamp>1258139220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I canceled cable and put away my Tivo almost a year ago.</p><p>I have an original XBox running XBMC, and an old PC in the corner with an S-Video out and a looooooong cable going to the TV.<br>Between them I can watch downloaded video, Netflix, and Hulu. That covers everything. It's been great.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I canceled cable and put away my Tivo almost a year ago.I have an original XBox running XBMC , and an old PC in the corner with an S-Video out and a looooooong cable going to the TV.Between them I can watch downloaded video , Netflix , and Hulu .
That covers everything .
It 's been great .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I canceled cable and put away my Tivo almost a year ago.I have an original XBox running XBMC, and an old PC in the corner with an S-Video out and a looooooong cable going to the TV.Between them I can watch downloaded video, Netflix, and Hulu.
That covers everything.
It's been great.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30095258</id>
	<title>My situation</title>
	<author>spaceyhackerlady</author>
	<datestamp>1258136820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm currently auditing my cable usage, with an eye to cutting back to what I actually watch. Which isn't much, as it turns out.

</p><p>I get the local news and <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/television" title="www.cbc.ca">Canadian stuff</a> [www.cbc.ca]
 (e.g. <a href="http://www.rickmercer.com/" title="rickmercer.com">Rick Mercer Report</a> [rickmercer.com]) over the air in HD.

</p><p>I get BBC stuff over the internet with <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer" title="bbc.co.uk">iPlayer</a> [bbc.co.uk].

</p><p>I get Australian stuff on DVD from my favourite DVD place in <a href="http://www.chaosdvd.com/" title="chaosdvd.com">Melbourne</a> [chaosdvd.com].

</p><p>About the only thing I watch on cable is Mythbusters, and I'm sure I could come up with it online if I put my mind to it...

</p><p>...laura</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm currently auditing my cable usage , with an eye to cutting back to what I actually watch .
Which is n't much , as it turns out .
I get the local news and Canadian stuff [ www.cbc.ca ] ( e.g .
Rick Mercer Report [ rickmercer.com ] ) over the air in HD .
I get BBC stuff over the internet with iPlayer [ bbc.co.uk ] .
I get Australian stuff on DVD from my favourite DVD place in Melbourne [ chaosdvd.com ] .
About the only thing I watch on cable is Mythbusters , and I 'm sure I could come up with it online if I put my mind to it.. . ...laura</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm currently auditing my cable usage, with an eye to cutting back to what I actually watch.
Which isn't much, as it turns out.
I get the local news and Canadian stuff [www.cbc.ca]
 (e.g.
Rick Mercer Report [rickmercer.com]) over the air in HD.
I get BBC stuff over the internet with iPlayer [bbc.co.uk].
I get Australian stuff on DVD from my favourite DVD place in Melbourne [chaosdvd.com].
About the only thing I watch on cable is Mythbusters, and I'm sure I could come up with it online if I put my mind to it...

...laura</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30096370</id>
	<title>Re:YouTube</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1258201320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps you're unaware that YouTube carries <a href="http://www.youtube.com/shows" title="youtube.com">complete episodes</a> [youtube.com] of some shows and even a few <a href="http://www.youtube.com/movies" title="youtube.com">movies</a> [youtube.com].  Most of them are not available outside the USA (and their UI sucks; you select a different country and it still shows you loads of things that only work in the USA and only tells you that they won't work when you hit play).  </p><p>
The whole idea that you need cable seems to be a US thing.  On this side of the pond most people don't have cable (or satellite, which is more common), and we have fewer terrestrial channels.  I did have cable for a bit because it was about &pound;5 on top of my Internet subscription.  I cancelled it after a while because I realised that I found the adverts too irritating on the cable channels and was mainly watching things on the BBC and it wasn't worth paying for the occasional show on Sky One.  My TV broke about a year later, and I'd watched so little on it in the preceding few months that I didn't bother getting it repaired.</p><p>
Now that I don't have a TV, I actually watch more than I did before.  I rent DVDs through the post and the same company offers a streaming service.  I have an old laptop connected to a projector which can play the streaming shows (a relatively limited selection of films and TV shows, but no limits on the number you can watch), shows on iPlayer, and so on.  I never see adverts and I watch things when I want to watch them, without having to remember to record them in advance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps you 're unaware that YouTube carries complete episodes [ youtube.com ] of some shows and even a few movies [ youtube.com ] .
Most of them are not available outside the USA ( and their UI sucks ; you select a different country and it still shows you loads of things that only work in the USA and only tells you that they wo n't work when you hit play ) .
The whole idea that you need cable seems to be a US thing .
On this side of the pond most people do n't have cable ( or satellite , which is more common ) , and we have fewer terrestrial channels .
I did have cable for a bit because it was about   5 on top of my Internet subscription .
I cancelled it after a while because I realised that I found the adverts too irritating on the cable channels and was mainly watching things on the BBC and it was n't worth paying for the occasional show on Sky One .
My TV broke about a year later , and I 'd watched so little on it in the preceding few months that I did n't bother getting it repaired .
Now that I do n't have a TV , I actually watch more than I did before .
I rent DVDs through the post and the same company offers a streaming service .
I have an old laptop connected to a projector which can play the streaming shows ( a relatively limited selection of films and TV shows , but no limits on the number you can watch ) , shows on iPlayer , and so on .
I never see adverts and I watch things when I want to watch them , without having to remember to record them in advance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps you're unaware that YouTube carries complete episodes [youtube.com] of some shows and even a few movies [youtube.com].
Most of them are not available outside the USA (and their UI sucks; you select a different country and it still shows you loads of things that only work in the USA and only tells you that they won't work when you hit play).
The whole idea that you need cable seems to be a US thing.
On this side of the pond most people don't have cable (or satellite, which is more common), and we have fewer terrestrial channels.
I did have cable for a bit because it was about £5 on top of my Internet subscription.
I cancelled it after a while because I realised that I found the adverts too irritating on the cable channels and was mainly watching things on the BBC and it wasn't worth paying for the occasional show on Sky One.
My TV broke about a year later, and I'd watched so little on it in the preceding few months that I didn't bother getting it repaired.
Now that I don't have a TV, I actually watch more than I did before.
I rent DVDs through the post and the same company offers a streaming service.
I have an old laptop connected to a projector which can play the streaming shows (a relatively limited selection of films and TV shows, but no limits on the number you can watch), shows on iPlayer, and so on.
I never see adverts and I watch things when I want to watch them, without having to remember to record them in advance.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093922</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30096246</id>
	<title>Time to ditch TV</title>
	<author>knarf</author>
	<datestamp>1258198860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd say it is past time to ditch TV alltogether. You want news? Find it on the 'net. Want movies? Find them on the 'net, rent them through whatever service, etc. The only thing you should not want is the next installment of 'who wants to be an idiot|zillionaire|etc' but if you want that... you might as well keep watching TV...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd say it is past time to ditch TV alltogether .
You want news ?
Find it on the 'net .
Want movies ?
Find them on the 'net , rent them through whatever service , etc .
The only thing you should not want is the next installment of 'who wants to be an idiot | zillionaire | etc ' but if you want that... you might as well keep watching TV.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd say it is past time to ditch TV alltogether.
You want news?
Find it on the 'net.
Want movies?
Find them on the 'net, rent them through whatever service, etc.
The only thing you should not want is the next installment of 'who wants to be an idiot|zillionaire|etc' but if you want that... you might as well keep watching TV...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093938</id>
	<title>Playstation 3</title>
	<author>Nursie</author>
	<datestamp>1258121100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>iPlayer, youtube, DLNA, all you need. Stream your<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... eh<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... legitimately acquired media from any old linux (w. mediatomb) or windows vista or 7 (w. media player) machine.</p><p>Plus you get to play games.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>iPlayer , youtube , DLNA , all you need .
Stream your ... eh ... legitimately acquired media from any old linux ( w. mediatomb ) or windows vista or 7 ( w. media player ) machine.Plus you get to play games .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iPlayer, youtube, DLNA, all you need.
Stream your ... eh ... legitimately acquired media from any old linux (w. mediatomb) or windows vista or 7 (w. media player) machine.Plus you get to play games.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30100628</id>
	<title>"Cable" isn't just TV anymore.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258191960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My cable provider sells<br>1) Cable TV with LOTS of ClearQAM<br>2) Internet connectivity - 50Mbps/12Mbps (hah DSL users)<br>3) Phone - unlimited LD in US, Canada, and many territories<br>4) HD video on demand with lots of no-extra-charge content. I've never paid for any VOD content beyond my normal monthly charges.</p><p>If I dump cable, I can't get internet without going to slow, low bandwidth DSL.  The best they offer here is 12Mbps/768Kbps.  What a joke.  Additionally, DSL almost never provides the bandwidth sold. On my cable system, I routinely get higher bandwidth than I've purchased according to speedtest sights.</p><p>No thanks, I'll stay with my cable modem bandwidth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My cable provider sells1 ) Cable TV with LOTS of ClearQAM2 ) Internet connectivity - 50Mbps/12Mbps ( hah DSL users ) 3 ) Phone - unlimited LD in US , Canada , and many territories4 ) HD video on demand with lots of no-extra-charge content .
I 've never paid for any VOD content beyond my normal monthly charges.If I dump cable , I ca n't get internet without going to slow , low bandwidth DSL .
The best they offer here is 12Mbps/768Kbps .
What a joke .
Additionally , DSL almost never provides the bandwidth sold .
On my cable system , I routinely get higher bandwidth than I 've purchased according to speedtest sights.No thanks , I 'll stay with my cable modem bandwidth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My cable provider sells1) Cable TV with LOTS of ClearQAM2) Internet connectivity - 50Mbps/12Mbps (hah DSL users)3) Phone - unlimited LD in US, Canada, and many territories4) HD video on demand with lots of no-extra-charge content.
I've never paid for any VOD content beyond my normal monthly charges.If I dump cable, I can't get internet without going to slow, low bandwidth DSL.
The best they offer here is 12Mbps/768Kbps.
What a joke.
Additionally, DSL almost never provides the bandwidth sold.
On my cable system, I routinely get higher bandwidth than I've purchased according to speedtest sights.No thanks, I'll stay with my cable modem bandwidth.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093934</id>
	<title>The cable co will just set low caps. also live spo</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1258121040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The cable co will just set low caps. also live sports are fully on line.</p><p>you need cable or sat to see most of your NHL, MLB and NBA teams games. Same thing for BIG 10, some nascar. At least all your team NFL games* are on OTA for free. *if they sell out games played in your area.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The cable co will just set low caps .
also live sports are fully on line.you need cable or sat to see most of your NHL , MLB and NBA teams games .
Same thing for BIG 10 , some nascar .
At least all your team NFL games * are on OTA for free .
* if they sell out games played in your area .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The cable co will just set low caps.
also live sports are fully on line.you need cable or sat to see most of your NHL, MLB and NBA teams games.
Same thing for BIG 10, some nascar.
At least all your team NFL games* are on OTA for free.
*if they sell out games played in your area.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30103264</id>
	<title>Re:Won't last forever</title>
	<author>skeeto</author>
	<datestamp>1258215600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, if the ad-supported model actually worked they would be broadcasting all sorts of television stations over radio waves by now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , if the ad-supported model actually worked they would be broadcasting all sorts of television stations over radio waves by now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, if the ad-supported model actually worked they would be broadcasting all sorts of television stations over radio waves by now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094122</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30101246</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sorry.</title>
	<author>Venim</author>
	<datestamp>1258196880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>oh god lol</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>oh god lol</tokentext>
<sentencetext>oh god lol</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093866</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094222</id>
	<title>No</title>
	<author>Fizzol</author>
	<datestamp>1258123440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And not likely to any time soon. The internet isn't nearly good enough to replace cable. Unless you're will to steal content there's not enough decent stuff to watch. Maybe in ten years, maybe.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And not likely to any time soon .
The internet is n't nearly good enough to replace cable .
Unless you 're will to steal content there 's not enough decent stuff to watch .
Maybe in ten years , maybe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And not likely to any time soon.
The internet isn't nearly good enough to replace cable.
Unless you're will to steal content there's not enough decent stuff to watch.
Maybe in ten years, maybe.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30095044</id>
	<title>Re:Sports and Crappy Slow Internet</title>
	<author>PitaBred</author>
	<datestamp>1258133640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you'd get over your addiction to paying companies that hate you (pretty much any major sports league), it helps. I used to care... I just can't be bothered any more, what with all the lawsuits against fantasy leagues and charging through the ass for actual tickets. Fuck them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 'd get over your addiction to paying companies that hate you ( pretty much any major sports league ) , it helps .
I used to care... I just ca n't be bothered any more , what with all the lawsuits against fantasy leagues and charging through the ass for actual tickets .
Fuck them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you'd get over your addiction to paying companies that hate you (pretty much any major sports league), it helps.
I used to care... I just can't be bothered any more, what with all the lawsuits against fantasy leagues and charging through the ass for actual tickets.
Fuck them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094010</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094748</id>
	<title>Re:Won't last forever</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258129620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who cares?  Maybe it'll be better to pay them?  When I watch broadcast TV and shows from Netflix (which I already pay for) why do I need to waste my time with Cable?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who cares ?
Maybe it 'll be better to pay them ?
When I watch broadcast TV and shows from Netflix ( which I already pay for ) why do I need to waste my time with Cable ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who cares?
Maybe it'll be better to pay them?
When I watch broadcast TV and shows from Netflix (which I already pay for) why do I need to waste my time with Cable?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094122</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094122</id>
	<title>Won't last forever</title>
	<author>c0d3g33k</author>
	<datestamp>1258122540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cancel your cable if you want to save a little money and what you are interested in is available online.  Free shows and movies online won't last forever, though.  Free everything is just not sustainable, and right now they are just trying to capture eyeballs and prove the concept.  At some point, expect paywalls to appear, at least for 'premium content' or selected episodes of a season or whatever.  Don't say I didn't warn you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cancel your cable if you want to save a little money and what you are interested in is available online .
Free shows and movies online wo n't last forever , though .
Free everything is just not sustainable , and right now they are just trying to capture eyeballs and prove the concept .
At some point , expect paywalls to appear , at least for 'premium content ' or selected episodes of a season or whatever .
Do n't say I did n't warn you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cancel your cable if you want to save a little money and what you are interested in is available online.
Free shows and movies online won't last forever, though.
Free everything is just not sustainable, and right now they are just trying to capture eyeballs and prove the concept.
At some point, expect paywalls to appear, at least for 'premium content' or selected episodes of a season or whatever.
Don't say I didn't warn you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094380</id>
	<title>Re:Playstation 3</title>
	<author>JoeMerchant</author>
	<datestamp>1258125300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wanker!  I was perfectly happy in my ignorance, but now I not only know what iPlayer is, I also know that Sony doesn't deliver it to the states.  Are there stateside work-arounds?  I found the old site with a message that it's "in your XMB now" - bah!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wanker !
I was perfectly happy in my ignorance , but now I not only know what iPlayer is , I also know that Sony does n't deliver it to the states .
Are there stateside work-arounds ?
I found the old site with a message that it 's " in your XMB now " - bah !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wanker!
I was perfectly happy in my ignorance, but now I not only know what iPlayer is, I also know that Sony doesn't deliver it to the states.
Are there stateside work-arounds?
I found the old site with a message that it's "in your XMB now" - bah!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093938</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094732</id>
	<title>Re:Waytago, Dell!</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1258129500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the part that is silly...</p><p>If you want a box like that for Linux then you get an ION and not one of these Zino boxes.</p><p>Dell's insistence on using ATI GPUs in their low profile boxes has always been rather annoying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the part that is silly...If you want a box like that for Linux then you get an ION and not one of these Zino boxes.Dell 's insistence on using ATI GPUs in their low profile boxes has always been rather annoying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the part that is silly...If you want a box like that for Linux then you get an ION and not one of these Zino boxes.Dell's insistence on using ATI GPUs in their low profile boxes has always been rather annoying.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094038</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094088</id>
	<title>What Not To Wear :-(</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258122060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I desperately want to cut those life-sucking leeches at Comcast off, BUT my girlfriend 3's TLC's "What Not to Wear".  Until the Internet provides some way of viewing that show, I'm afraid I'm at the mercy of those rat bastards at Comcast (well, or my angry girlfriend, but guess which is scarier<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-) ).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I desperately want to cut those life-sucking leeches at Comcast off , BUT my girlfriend 3 's TLC 's " What Not to Wear " .
Until the Internet provides some way of viewing that show , I 'm afraid I 'm at the mercy of those rat bastards at Comcast ( well , or my angry girlfriend , but guess which is scarier ; - ) ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I desperately want to cut those life-sucking leeches at Comcast off, BUT my girlfriend 3's TLC's "What Not to Wear".
Until the Internet provides some way of viewing that show, I'm afraid I'm at the mercy of those rat bastards at Comcast (well, or my angry girlfriend, but guess which is scarier ;-) ).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30100030</id>
	<title>Re:Sports and Crappy Slow Internet</title>
	<author>TheQuantumShift</author>
	<datestamp>1258231020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since I watch sports usually with a 30-60 minute buffer (to FF through ads), I'd prefer this: Drop the price on league pass by $100 and integrate it into the xmb on my ps3. And let me record it as well in actual HD. I'd definitely pay $50 a year for that. Everything else on cable (worth watching) is on hulu/netflix or OTA broadcast.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since I watch sports usually with a 30-60 minute buffer ( to FF through ads ) , I 'd prefer this : Drop the price on league pass by $ 100 and integrate it into the xmb on my ps3 .
And let me record it as well in actual HD .
I 'd definitely pay $ 50 a year for that .
Everything else on cable ( worth watching ) is on hulu/netflix or OTA broadcast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since I watch sports usually with a 30-60 minute buffer (to FF through ads), I'd prefer this: Drop the price on league pass by $100 and integrate it into the xmb on my ps3.
And let me record it as well in actual HD.
I'd definitely pay $50 a year for that.
Everything else on cable (worth watching) is on hulu/netflix or OTA broadcast.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094010</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30095914</id>
	<title>Re:Youtube?</title>
	<author>julesh</author>
	<datestamp>1258191960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Seriously...<br>they (buffering) have trouble (buffering) offering (buffering) (waiting) standard video.</i></p><p>The problem I have with youtube isn't buffering.  It's the fact that the video often freezes for no apparent reason even when the bar shows there's like a minute or more's worth of video in the buffer and ready to play.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously...they ( buffering ) have trouble ( buffering ) offering ( buffering ) ( waiting ) standard video.The problem I have with youtube is n't buffering .
It 's the fact that the video often freezes for no apparent reason even when the bar shows there 's like a minute or more 's worth of video in the buffer and ready to play .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously...they (buffering) have trouble (buffering) offering (buffering) (waiting) standard video.The problem I have with youtube isn't buffering.
It's the fact that the video often freezes for no apparent reason even when the bar shows there's like a minute or more's worth of video in the buffer and ready to play.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094298</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30102900</id>
	<title>Hooking PCs up to your TV</title>
	<author>blake182</author>
	<datestamp>1258210560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As far as the Dell "yet another little PC" announcement, we've been able to hook PCs up to our TV for years. What matters is making it work <em>well</em> in that environment, which no one has done. No, not even Apple, Microsoft or Boxee.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As far as the Dell " yet another little PC " announcement , we 've been able to hook PCs up to our TV for years .
What matters is making it work well in that environment , which no one has done .
No , not even Apple , Microsoft or Boxee .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As far as the Dell "yet another little PC" announcement, we've been able to hook PCs up to our TV for years.
What matters is making it work well in that environment, which no one has done.
No, not even Apple, Microsoft or Boxee.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094596</id>
	<title>Hulu may charge.</title>
	<author>NoYob</author>
	<datestamp>1258127940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Cancel your cable if you want to save a little money and what you are interested in is available online.  Free shows and movies online won't last forever, though.  Free everything is just not sustainable, and right now they are just trying to capture eyeballs and prove the concept.  At some point, expect paywalls to appear, at least for 'premium content' or selected episodes of a season or whatever.  Don't say I didn't warn you.</p></div><p> <a href="http://www.pcworld.com/article/166104/hulu\_may\_begin\_charging\_for\_content.html" title="pcworld.com" rel="nofollow">Of course, all they're saying is "may" charge.</a> [pcworld.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cancel your cable if you want to save a little money and what you are interested in is available online .
Free shows and movies online wo n't last forever , though .
Free everything is just not sustainable , and right now they are just trying to capture eyeballs and prove the concept .
At some point , expect paywalls to appear , at least for 'premium content ' or selected episodes of a season or whatever .
Do n't say I did n't warn you .
Of course , all they 're saying is " may " charge .
[ pcworld.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cancel your cable if you want to save a little money and what you are interested in is available online.
Free shows and movies online won't last forever, though.
Free everything is just not sustainable, and right now they are just trying to capture eyeballs and prove the concept.
At some point, expect paywalls to appear, at least for 'premium content' or selected episodes of a season or whatever.
Don't say I didn't warn you.
Of course, all they're saying is "may" charge.
[pcworld.com]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094122</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30099454</id>
	<title>I dont see Ubuntu on the Zino as an option at Dell</title>
	<author>nfsilkey</author>
	<datestamp>1258227420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I clicked through the DIY offering ($229), and I was only offered Vista or Windows 7.  Ubuntu was \_not\_ on the list.  Not that I care (would wipe the Zino once unboxed), but its worth nothing that these do not appear to be shipping from Dell with Ubuntu as a pre-installed option.  I didnt check the other systems, but Im sure all us GNU/Linux users would opt for the low-end, no-frills offering if we wanted to build an open-source HTPC, etc.</p><p>FWIW<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I clicked through the DIY offering ( $ 229 ) , and I was only offered Vista or Windows 7 .
Ubuntu was \ _not \ _ on the list .
Not that I care ( would wipe the Zino once unboxed ) , but its worth nothing that these do not appear to be shipping from Dell with Ubuntu as a pre-installed option .
I didnt check the other systems , but Im sure all us GNU/Linux users would opt for the low-end , no-frills offering if we wanted to build an open-source HTPC , etc.FWIW .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I clicked through the DIY offering ($229), and I was only offered Vista or Windows 7.
Ubuntu was \_not\_ on the list.
Not that I care (would wipe the Zino once unboxed), but its worth nothing that these do not appear to be shipping from Dell with Ubuntu as a pre-installed option.
I didnt check the other systems, but Im sure all us GNU/Linux users would opt for the low-end, no-frills offering if we wanted to build an open-source HTPC, etc.FWIW ...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094278</id>
	<title>Re:Sports and Crappy Slow Internet</title>
	<author>timmarhy</author>
	<datestamp>1258124340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>most of the bit torrent stuff you are refering to is labeled HDTV, meaning is was recorded from hdtv, not nessacarily that's it's hd quality. but none the less you are totally wrong, I can record free to air tv in hd and transmit it via a torrent if i wanted, it'd be hd quality.</htmltext>
<tokenext>most of the bit torrent stuff you are refering to is labeled HDTV , meaning is was recorded from hdtv , not nessacarily that 's it 's hd quality .
but none the less you are totally wrong , I can record free to air tv in hd and transmit it via a torrent if i wanted , it 'd be hd quality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>most of the bit torrent stuff you are refering to is labeled HDTV, meaning is was recorded from hdtv, not nessacarily that's it's hd quality.
but none the less you are totally wrong, I can record free to air tv in hd and transmit it via a torrent if i wanted, it'd be hd quality.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094010</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094842</id>
	<title>If you get tv via bit torrent...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258130820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>which I do, it's very easy to do the following:</p><p>download any avi/divx you like off the internet</p><p>transcode/burn via ConvertXToDVD onto a DVD-RW and watch on your TV</p><p>I have a stack of DVD-RW's I constantly overwrite and I don't have to worry about any special sort of hookup or connection -- just my DVD player and its remote</p><p>also -- this is all standard def obviously -- but the standard def recordings on bit torrent are typically downsampled from HD and are accordingly pristine SD quality -- much better than my Dish Network broadcast that I pay for</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>which I do , it 's very easy to do the following : download any avi/divx you like off the internettranscode/burn via ConvertXToDVD onto a DVD-RW and watch on your TVI have a stack of DVD-RW 's I constantly overwrite and I do n't have to worry about any special sort of hookup or connection -- just my DVD player and its remotealso -- this is all standard def obviously -- but the standard def recordings on bit torrent are typically downsampled from HD and are accordingly pristine SD quality -- much better than my Dish Network broadcast that I pay for</tokentext>
<sentencetext>which I do, it's very easy to do the following:download any avi/divx you like off the internettranscode/burn via ConvertXToDVD onto a DVD-RW and watch on your TVI have a stack of DVD-RW's I constantly overwrite and I don't have to worry about any special sort of hookup or connection -- just my DVD player and its remotealso -- this is all standard def obviously -- but the standard def recordings on bit torrent are typically downsampled from HD and are accordingly pristine SD quality -- much better than my Dish Network broadcast that I pay for</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094342</id>
	<title>Re:Telecoms...</title>
	<author>JoeMerchant</author>
	<datestamp>1258124940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just posted that I gave up cable service a long long time ago, and I guess that's not true, I do get basic (14 channel) cable bundled with my broadband connection, it costs an extra $3/month - we haven't turned it on more than 3 times in the last year...  Thinking of it that way, it's not really worth $12 per hour of use to me, maybe I should cancel it after all.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just posted that I gave up cable service a long long time ago , and I guess that 's not true , I do get basic ( 14 channel ) cable bundled with my broadband connection , it costs an extra $ 3/month - we have n't turned it on more than 3 times in the last year... Thinking of it that way , it 's not really worth $ 12 per hour of use to me , maybe I should cancel it after all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just posted that I gave up cable service a long long time ago, and I guess that's not true, I do get basic (14 channel) cable bundled with my broadband connection, it costs an extra $3/month - we haven't turned it on more than 3 times in the last year...  Thinking of it that way, it's not really worth $12 per hour of use to me, maybe I should cancel it after all.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094036</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30097394</id>
	<title>Re:I've canceled mine</title>
	<author>Rydia</author>
	<datestamp>1258213260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A good antenna and HTPC will get you good mileage, especially now that MythTV 0.22 is out. It's a fantastic release.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A good antenna and HTPC will get you good mileage , especially now that MythTV 0.22 is out .
It 's a fantastic release .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A good antenna and HTPC will get you good mileage, especially now that MythTV 0.22 is out.
It's a fantastic release.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093894</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094298</id>
	<title>Youtube?</title>
	<author>Hamsterdan</author>
	<datestamp>1258124580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously...<br>they (buffering) have trouble (buffering) offering (buffering) (waiting) standard video.<br><br>I don't think starting a movie 45 minutes after it starts streaming a good idea<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously...they ( buffering ) have trouble ( buffering ) offering ( buffering ) ( waiting ) standard video.I do n't think starting a movie 45 minutes after it starts streaming a good idea : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously...they (buffering) have trouble (buffering) offering (buffering) (waiting) standard video.I don't think starting a movie 45 minutes after it starts streaming a good idea :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093890</id>
	<title>Is it live, or is it Memorex</title>
	<author>Dachannien</author>
	<datestamp>1258120680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But can I keep what I download?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But can I keep what I download ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But can I keep what I download?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094026</id>
	<title>Already did</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258121640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Boxee + <a href="http://ezrss.it/" title="ezrss.it">http://ezrss.it/</a> [ezrss.it] + pytv + 25 Mbs Fios = better then cable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Boxee + http : //ezrss.it/ [ ezrss.it ] + pytv + 25 Mbs Fios = better then cable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Boxee + http://ezrss.it/ [ezrss.it] + pytv + 25 Mbs Fios = better then cable.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094774</id>
	<title>Re:I'm sorry.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258130040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>im find it, Sopcast Free P2P Internet TV, in google, www.sopcast.com</tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>im find it , Sopcast Free P2P Internet TV , in google , www.sopcast.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>im find it, Sopcast Free P2P Internet TV, in google, www.sopcast.com</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093866</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30096576</id>
	<title>Thats right!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258204380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>My internet connection is via the cable company...</p><p>Right!</p><p>And they will surely do everything in their power to make streaming and downloading your content as difficult as possible.</p><p>Either through throttling or caps, that is.  If a 1080P quality movie consumes half your "Gbits" allowed for a month, you really can't ditch the digital cable.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>My internet connection is via the cable company...Right ! And they will surely do everything in their power to make streaming and downloading your content as difficult as possible.Either through throttling or caps , that is .
If a 1080P quality movie consumes half your " Gbits " allowed for a month , you really ca n't ditch the digital cable .
: (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My internet connection is via the cable company...Right!And they will surely do everything in their power to make streaming and downloading your content as difficult as possible.Either through throttling or caps, that is.
If a 1080P quality movie consumes half your "Gbits" allowed for a month, you really can't ditch the digital cable.
:(
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094376</id>
	<title>Re:Waytago, Dell!</title>
	<author>coaxial</author>
	<datestamp>1258125180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're right.  When you buy it, it only lists windows, but when you look at the tech specs it clearly lists the supported operating systems as:</p><p>Genuine Windows&#174;  7 Home Premium 64-Bit<br>Genuine Windows&#174;  7     Professional 64-Bit<br>Genuine Windows Vista&#174;  Home Basic 32-Bit<br>Genuine Windows Vista&#174;  Home Premium 64-Bit<br><strong>Ubuntu&#174;  Linux&#174;  9.04</strong></p><p>Strange.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're right .
When you buy it , it only lists windows , but when you look at the tech specs it clearly lists the supported operating systems as : Genuine Windows   7 Home Premium 64-BitGenuine Windows   7 Professional 64-BitGenuine Windows Vista   Home Basic 32-BitGenuine Windows Vista   Home Premium 64-BitUbuntu   Linux   9.04Strange .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're right.
When you buy it, it only lists windows, but when you look at the tech specs it clearly lists the supported operating systems as:Genuine Windows®  7 Home Premium 64-BitGenuine Windows®  7     Professional 64-BitGenuine Windows Vista®  Home Basic 32-BitGenuine Windows Vista®  Home Premium 64-BitUbuntu®  Linux®  9.04Strange.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094372</id>
	<title>Re:Using cable to distribute video</title>
	<author>mattack2</author>
	<datestamp>1258125180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The audio will always be mono with RF modulators that regular people buy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The audio will always be mono with RF modulators that regular people buy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The audio will always be mono with RF modulators that regular people buy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093916</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094476</id>
	<title>But.. It's tv! It's TV!</title>
	<author>Cathoderoytube</author>
	<datestamp>1258126560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>People are just thinking about this now? I've been without tv for months. It's beautiful. Now it'll take a bit to get adjusted I grant you. The complete Simpsons is a big file. But once you get that on your system it's smooth sailing from there.
Plus there are other forms of entertainment that're better than tv. Like books. I know you've seen them around. But seriously they're like big DVD box sets. You just sit there and read them, and it's entertaining. You're like 'I wonder what Elric of Melnibone's gonna get up to today? Life's not easy for Elric of Melnibone that's for sure'.
Then when people talk about tv, you say 'Hey have you heard of Elric of Melnibone?' and the people you talk to will think you're cool because they'll think you're talking about some new TV show that you can only get on fancy extended cable. But you'll never tell<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>People are just thinking about this now ?
I 've been without tv for months .
It 's beautiful .
Now it 'll take a bit to get adjusted I grant you .
The complete Simpsons is a big file .
But once you get that on your system it 's smooth sailing from there .
Plus there are other forms of entertainment that 're better than tv .
Like books .
I know you 've seen them around .
But seriously they 're like big DVD box sets .
You just sit there and read them , and it 's entertaining .
You 're like 'I wonder what Elric of Melnibone 's gon na get up to today ?
Life 's not easy for Elric of Melnibone that 's for sure' .
Then when people talk about tv , you say 'Hey have you heard of Elric of Melnibone ?
' and the people you talk to will think you 're cool because they 'll think you 're talking about some new TV show that you can only get on fancy extended cable .
But you 'll never tell ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People are just thinking about this now?
I've been without tv for months.
It's beautiful.
Now it'll take a bit to get adjusted I grant you.
The complete Simpsons is a big file.
But once you get that on your system it's smooth sailing from there.
Plus there are other forms of entertainment that're better than tv.
Like books.
I know you've seen them around.
But seriously they're like big DVD box sets.
You just sit there and read them, and it's entertaining.
You're like 'I wonder what Elric of Melnibone's gonna get up to today?
Life's not easy for Elric of Melnibone that's for sure'.
Then when people talk about tv, you say 'Hey have you heard of Elric of Melnibone?
' and the people you talk to will think you're cool because they'll think you're talking about some new TV show that you can only get on fancy extended cable.
But you'll never tell ;)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30099070</id>
	<title>Negroponte's gonna be right?!!</title>
	<author>gilgongo</author>
	<datestamp>1258224720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On page 173 (softback edition) of Nicholas Negroponte's "Being Digital" he makes what for him is a pretty confident prediction:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &ldquo;I think videocassette rental stores will go out of business in less than ten years.&rdquo;</p><p>The book was published in 1995. Viacom was looking to sell Blockbuster in 2004, but so far the rental market is fairly good. Maybe this might just get Negroponte's prediction to squeak in if we include DVD rentals and cable?</p><p>I love Negroponte. He once replied "About ten million dollars" when asked by a TSA official what the value of his laptop was before it passed through an x-ray.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On page 173 ( softback edition ) of Nicholas Negroponte 's " Being Digital " he makes what for him is a pretty confident prediction :            I think videocassette rental stores will go out of business in less than ten years.    The book was published in 1995 .
Viacom was looking to sell Blockbuster in 2004 , but so far the rental market is fairly good .
Maybe this might just get Negroponte 's prediction to squeak in if we include DVD rentals and cable ? I love Negroponte .
He once replied " About ten million dollars " when asked by a TSA official what the value of his laptop was before it passed through an x-ray .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On page 173 (softback edition) of Nicholas Negroponte's "Being Digital" he makes what for him is a pretty confident prediction:
        “I think videocassette rental stores will go out of business in less than ten years.”The book was published in 1995.
Viacom was looking to sell Blockbuster in 2004, but so far the rental market is fairly good.
Maybe this might just get Negroponte's prediction to squeak in if we include DVD rentals and cable?I love Negroponte.
He once replied "About ten million dollars" when asked by a TSA official what the value of his laptop was before it passed through an x-ray.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094648</id>
	<title>Re:Using cable to distribute video</title>
	<author>Darinbob</author>
	<datestamp>1258128660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>And then you yell upstairs "Honey, can you hit rewind on the computer for me?"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>And then you yell upstairs " Honey , can you hit rewind on the computer for me ?
" : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And then you yell upstairs "Honey, can you hit rewind on the computer for me?
" :-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093916</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30116706</id>
	<title>Re:Playstation 3</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258393320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and now Netflix will send you a DVD for the PS3 that essentially turns it into a Roku Box.  Need the disc in there for it to work, so that is sort of inconvenient, but it is yet another option!  I already have a Roku, so no big deal, but I got the DVD for PS3 and it appears to function well...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and now Netflix will send you a DVD for the PS3 that essentially turns it into a Roku Box .
Need the disc in there for it to work , so that is sort of inconvenient , but it is yet another option !
I already have a Roku , so no big deal , but I got the DVD for PS3 and it appears to function well.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and now Netflix will send you a DVD for the PS3 that essentially turns it into a Roku Box.
Need the disc in there for it to work, so that is sort of inconvenient, but it is yet another option!
I already have a Roku, so no big deal, but I got the DVD for PS3 and it appears to function well...</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093954</id>
	<title>wishing for</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258121160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just want a way to watch the tv shows I want *using a portable HD* so that when on the road, or at the folks place (with dial-up), ect, I can watch my programs off that external HD without a net connection. I can download shows at work and watch them whenever....and I don't want to have to tediously rip DVDs and wade through broken torrents, legal would be nice.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just want a way to watch the tv shows I want * using a portable HD * so that when on the road , or at the folks place ( with dial-up ) , ect , I can watch my programs off that external HD without a net connection .
I can download shows at work and watch them whenever....and I do n't want to have to tediously rip DVDs and wade through broken torrents , legal would be nice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just want a way to watch the tv shows I want *using a portable HD* so that when on the road, or at the folks place (with dial-up), ect, I can watch my programs off that external HD without a net connection.
I can download shows at work and watch them whenever....and I don't want to have to tediously rip DVDs and wade through broken torrents, legal would be nice.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30097030</id>
	<title>Re:Sports and Crappy Slow Internet</title>
	<author>sowth</author>
	<datestamp>1258210200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am a big sports fan, but you do have a point with sports and image resolution. If you think about it, all the cameras are just a poor substitute for one high resolution shot of the entire field.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am a big sports fan , but you do have a point with sports and image resolution .
If you think about it , all the cameras are just a poor substitute for one high resolution shot of the entire field .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am a big sports fan, but you do have a point with sports and image resolution.
If you think about it, all the cameras are just a poor substitute for one high resolution shot of the entire field.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094916</id>
	<title>Re:Already did</title>
	<author>0100010001010011</author>
	<datestamp>1258131600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sabnzbd + RSS</p><p>It's as damn near VOD as you can get. An hour long HD TV program in 15 minutes. 30 minute SD TV in 3-4.</p><p>As much as I loved Bittorrent. The $11/month is worth it. NzbMatrix has TONS of old movies that would never be popular enough to be on BT.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sabnzbd + RSSIt 's as damn near VOD as you can get .
An hour long HD TV program in 15 minutes .
30 minute SD TV in 3-4.As much as I loved Bittorrent .
The $ 11/month is worth it .
NzbMatrix has TONS of old movies that would never be popular enough to be on BT .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sabnzbd + RSSIt's as damn near VOD as you can get.
An hour long HD TV program in 15 minutes.
30 minute SD TV in 3-4.As much as I loved Bittorrent.
The $11/month is worth it.
NzbMatrix has TONS of old movies that would never be popular enough to be on BT.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094026</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30107144</id>
	<title>Re:You can still watch sports?</title>
	<author>toddestan</author>
	<datestamp>1258312980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to agree.  I used to enjoy watching football games, but the major networks have done their best to make them nearly unwatchable.</p><p>If you still like sports, I suggest trying the audio-only feeds (aka radio).  The announcers are far better, the advertising is far less in your face, and they generally concentrate more on the play rather than a bajillion useless statistics and promoting whatever crappy show airs after the game.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to agree .
I used to enjoy watching football games , but the major networks have done their best to make them nearly unwatchable.If you still like sports , I suggest trying the audio-only feeds ( aka radio ) .
The announcers are far better , the advertising is far less in your face , and they generally concentrate more on the play rather than a bajillion useless statistics and promoting whatever crappy show airs after the game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to agree.
I used to enjoy watching football games, but the major networks have done their best to make them nearly unwatchable.If you still like sports, I suggest trying the audio-only feeds (aka radio).
The announcers are far better, the advertising is far less in your face, and they generally concentrate more on the play rather than a bajillion useless statistics and promoting whatever crappy show airs after the game.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30095362</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30097100</id>
	<title>Peer-To-Peer TV The Answer To Sporting Woes?</title>
	<author>TheReal\_sabret00the</author>
	<datestamp>1258210860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Streaming is great, but in terms of sport, with the army of lawyers the Premiership/UEFA has, the streams fall down very quickly. There needs to be some sort of viable option in place and it seems that the Powers That Be aren't interested in streaming games for a decent price. Thus we're stuck hoping that P2PTV comes up to scratch quickly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Streaming is great , but in terms of sport , with the army of lawyers the Premiership/UEFA has , the streams fall down very quickly .
There needs to be some sort of viable option in place and it seems that the Powers That Be are n't interested in streaming games for a decent price .
Thus we 're stuck hoping that P2PTV comes up to scratch quickly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Streaming is great, but in terms of sport, with the army of lawyers the Premiership/UEFA has, the streams fall down very quickly.
There needs to be some sort of viable option in place and it seems that the Powers That Be aren't interested in streaming games for a decent price.
Thus we're stuck hoping that P2PTV comes up to scratch quickly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093894</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30116304</id>
	<title>neutral</title>
	<author>fulldecent</author>
	<datestamp>1258391400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Watching TV on the Internet?</p><p>Good, then people will finally be up in arms about net neutrality.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Watching TV on the Internet ? Good , then people will finally be up in arms about net neutrality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Watching TV on the Internet?Good, then people will finally be up in arms about net neutrality.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094654</id>
	<title>"What you want, when you want it"</title>
	<author>emurphy42</author>
	<datestamp>1258128660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Surely I'm not the only one here who twitches whenever they see that phrase?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Surely I 'm not the only one here who twitches whenever they see that phrase ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surely I'm not the only one here who twitches whenever they see that phrase?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30097834</id>
	<title>Re:Just one problem</title>
	<author>dkf</author>
	<datestamp>1258217160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>My internet connection is via the cable company...</p></div><p>All that's needed is for your cable company to deliver content using IP. (Without telling you...)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>My internet connection is via the cable company...All that 's needed is for your cable company to deliver content using IP .
( Without telling you... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My internet connection is via the cable company...All that's needed is for your cable company to deliver content using IP.
(Without telling you...)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094032</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30098216</id>
	<title>Re:Waytago, Dell!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258219980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I did not see it either. it looks like have to buy windows 7 and then i guess install ubuntu on your own? which is true for most linuxes. ubuntu mention should be erased from the article</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did not see it either .
it looks like have to buy windows 7 and then i guess install ubuntu on your own ?
which is true for most linuxes .
ubuntu mention should be erased from the article</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did not see it either.
it looks like have to buy windows 7 and then i guess install ubuntu on your own?
which is true for most linuxes.
ubuntu mention should be erased from the article</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094038</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30096004</id>
	<title>Less efficient, and it didn't have to be this way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258194060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Technologically, over the air and cable TV broadcast are the "right" way to transmit gigabytes of mass-appeal stuff out to millions of people.  Combine that with the invention of the  VCR that Valenti railed against (except now we know it in the form of the PVR) and you have the same watch-what-you-want-when-you-want-it user friendliness that you get with streaming, but without the fucking colossal <strong>waste</strong> of streaming or torrenting, where the total bandwidth required is multiplied by the number of times it gets watched, instead of being a constant.
</p><p>
Every techie's skin should crawl at the thought of streaming or torrenting.  Broadcast totally blows it away from a geek perspective.  If you live in a large city, this "new" tech can literally be a <em>million</em> times worse than OTA TV, and about a hundred times worse than cable TV.
</p><p>
I didn't really mind paying the cable company.  Well, I did mind as the price kept going up and I bitched mightily, but I kept doing it.  But with the switch to digital, the cable companies just couldn't let us have our DVRs.  They just fucking <em>had</em> to encrypt so that you couldn't use a standard digital tuner.
</p><p>
So their service isn't usable.
</p><p>
Now we have the horrific inefficiencies of streaming or torrenting (same thing from an efficiency perspective: they're not broadcast so usage multiplies someone's cost (and yes, you can bet they pass that cost on to you)) because people want something that unlike cable TV, at least <em>works</em> with their computer or PVR, even if it sucks (streaming) or is illegal (pirate torrents).  And the cable companies get to lose all their customers too, since they're not as suited for internet as the phone company is.
</p><p>
They dug their own grave, and <em>everyone</em> loses.  Hopefully after their bankruptcy, we can have new cable TV companies who want customers and therefore drop the DRM shit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Technologically , over the air and cable TV broadcast are the " right " way to transmit gigabytes of mass-appeal stuff out to millions of people .
Combine that with the invention of the VCR that Valenti railed against ( except now we know it in the form of the PVR ) and you have the same watch-what-you-want-when-you-want-it user friendliness that you get with streaming , but without the fucking colossal waste of streaming or torrenting , where the total bandwidth required is multiplied by the number of times it gets watched , instead of being a constant .
Every techie 's skin should crawl at the thought of streaming or torrenting .
Broadcast totally blows it away from a geek perspective .
If you live in a large city , this " new " tech can literally be a million times worse than OTA TV , and about a hundred times worse than cable TV .
I did n't really mind paying the cable company .
Well , I did mind as the price kept going up and I bitched mightily , but I kept doing it .
But with the switch to digital , the cable companies just could n't let us have our DVRs .
They just fucking had to encrypt so that you could n't use a standard digital tuner .
So their service is n't usable .
Now we have the horrific inefficiencies of streaming or torrenting ( same thing from an efficiency perspective : they 're not broadcast so usage multiplies someone 's cost ( and yes , you can bet they pass that cost on to you ) ) because people want something that unlike cable TV , at least works with their computer or PVR , even if it sucks ( streaming ) or is illegal ( pirate torrents ) .
And the cable companies get to lose all their customers too , since they 're not as suited for internet as the phone company is .
They dug their own grave , and everyone loses .
Hopefully after their bankruptcy , we can have new cable TV companies who want customers and therefore drop the DRM shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Technologically, over the air and cable TV broadcast are the "right" way to transmit gigabytes of mass-appeal stuff out to millions of people.
Combine that with the invention of the  VCR that Valenti railed against (except now we know it in the form of the PVR) and you have the same watch-what-you-want-when-you-want-it user friendliness that you get with streaming, but without the fucking colossal waste of streaming or torrenting, where the total bandwidth required is multiplied by the number of times it gets watched, instead of being a constant.
Every techie's skin should crawl at the thought of streaming or torrenting.
Broadcast totally blows it away from a geek perspective.
If you live in a large city, this "new" tech can literally be a million times worse than OTA TV, and about a hundred times worse than cable TV.
I didn't really mind paying the cable company.
Well, I did mind as the price kept going up and I bitched mightily, but I kept doing it.
But with the switch to digital, the cable companies just couldn't let us have our DVRs.
They just fucking had to encrypt so that you couldn't use a standard digital tuner.
So their service isn't usable.
Now we have the horrific inefficiencies of streaming or torrenting (same thing from an efficiency perspective: they're not broadcast so usage multiplies someone's cost (and yes, you can bet they pass that cost on to you)) because people want something that unlike cable TV, at least works with their computer or PVR, even if it sucks (streaming) or is illegal (pirate torrents).
And the cable companies get to lose all their customers too, since they're not as suited for internet as the phone company is.
They dug their own grave, and everyone loses.
Hopefully after their bankruptcy, we can have new cable TV companies who want customers and therefore drop the DRM shit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094242</id>
	<title>Re:Sports and Crappy Slow Internet</title>
	<author>inKubus</author>
	<datestamp>1258123680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin.tv" title="wikipedia.org">Justin.tv</a> [wikipedia.org] is like a streaming version of youtube.  Most people are using VLC and it works pretty well.  I watched the NBA playoffs on that (since I don't have cable, so no TNT).  Dubious on the legality front, of course, and streams do get shut down on occasion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Justin.tv [ wikipedia.org ] is like a streaming version of youtube .
Most people are using VLC and it works pretty well .
I watched the NBA playoffs on that ( since I do n't have cable , so no TNT ) .
Dubious on the legality front , of course , and streams do get shut down on occasion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Justin.tv [wikipedia.org] is like a streaming version of youtube.
Most people are using VLC and it works pretty well.
I watched the NBA playoffs on that (since I don't have cable, so no TNT).
Dubious on the legality front, of course, and streams do get shut down on occasion.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30096686</id>
	<title>Re:Not in Canada anyways</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258206300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm in Canada and so piszed at our restrictive system up here it makes me want to take up piracy. How is it that HULU and other providers are linked to USA-only IP addresses? What happened to the freedom of the last frontier of the Internet? Is it Canadian protectionism or is it a licensing issue in the USA? Or both? There has got to be some way around this blockade. If enough Canadians start jumping up and down demanding USA services we might se some action. Of course that's not the Canadian way is it? I'm sorry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm in Canada and so piszed at our restrictive system up here it makes me want to take up piracy .
How is it that HULU and other providers are linked to USA-only IP addresses ?
What happened to the freedom of the last frontier of the Internet ?
Is it Canadian protectionism or is it a licensing issue in the USA ?
Or both ?
There has got to be some way around this blockade .
If enough Canadians start jumping up and down demanding USA services we might se some action .
Of course that 's not the Canadian way is it ?
I 'm sorry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm in Canada and so piszed at our restrictive system up here it makes me want to take up piracy.
How is it that HULU and other providers are linked to USA-only IP addresses?
What happened to the freedom of the last frontier of the Internet?
Is it Canadian protectionism or is it a licensing issue in the USA?
Or both?
There has got to be some way around this blockade.
If enough Canadians start jumping up and down demanding USA services we might se some action.
Of course that's not the Canadian way is it?
I'm sorry.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094252</id>
	<title>I already do that.</title>
	<author>Codex\_of\_Wisdom</author>
	<datestamp>1258123860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I only watch two shows anyway, so I just watch them off Hulu on my wide screen monitor. Fewer commercials and I can watch whenever I want<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I only watch two shows anyway , so I just watch them off Hulu on my wide screen monitor .
Fewer commercials and I can watch whenever I want : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I only watch two shows anyway, so I just watch them off Hulu on my wide screen monitor.
Fewer commercials and I can watch whenever I want :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30095734</id>
	<title>Re:Sports and Crappy Slow Internet</title>
	<author>BikeHelmet</author>
	<datestamp>1258231800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>HD movies on Youtube don't compare to cable, neither does a single TV show downloaded with bittorrent that is labelled "HD". I have seen some "HD web streams" and they are<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... if your lucky<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...the same quality as digital cable.</p></div><p>Really? My cable provider sucks. You wouldn't want to sit closer than 10 feet away or you can see distortions. And at that distance, a 350MB XviD actually has the same or better quality.</p><p>Online, "HD" is usually used to refer to 480p. But I watch TV on my "HD" 2048x1152 monitor with fancy quality enhancing GPU shaders. It makes it so much more enjoyable.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>HD movies on Youtube do n't compare to cable , neither does a single TV show downloaded with bittorrent that is labelled " HD " .
I have seen some " HD web streams " and they are ... if your lucky ...the same quality as digital cable.Really ?
My cable provider sucks .
You would n't want to sit closer than 10 feet away or you can see distortions .
And at that distance , a 350MB XviD actually has the same or better quality.Online , " HD " is usually used to refer to 480p .
But I watch TV on my " HD " 2048x1152 monitor with fancy quality enhancing GPU shaders .
It makes it so much more enjoyable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HD movies on Youtube don't compare to cable, neither does a single TV show downloaded with bittorrent that is labelled "HD".
I have seen some "HD web streams" and they are ... if your lucky ...the same quality as digital cable.Really?
My cable provider sucks.
You wouldn't want to sit closer than 10 feet away or you can see distortions.
And at that distance, a 350MB XviD actually has the same or better quality.Online, "HD" is usually used to refer to 480p.
But I watch TV on my "HD" 2048x1152 monitor with fancy quality enhancing GPU shaders.
It makes it so much more enjoyable.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30095462</id>
	<title>Combination internet+terrestrial</title>
	<author>Casandro</author>
	<datestamp>1258140120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess the best combination would be internet and terrestrial televison, as satellite television, the most economical way to distribute it, is scrambled in the US. Here in Europe I have a system set up which gets about 1000 free to air channels, including all the relevant german and brittish channels. It works via VDR and uses the streamdev plugin to stream video to the internet.</p><p>In the US many people could provide such streaming services for their local programmes. Kinda like peer to peer streaming. Unfortunately I haven't seen any software for that yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess the best combination would be internet and terrestrial televison , as satellite television , the most economical way to distribute it , is scrambled in the US .
Here in Europe I have a system set up which gets about 1000 free to air channels , including all the relevant german and brittish channels .
It works via VDR and uses the streamdev plugin to stream video to the internet.In the US many people could provide such streaming services for their local programmes .
Kinda like peer to peer streaming .
Unfortunately I have n't seen any software for that yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess the best combination would be internet and terrestrial televison, as satellite television, the most economical way to distribute it, is scrambled in the US.
Here in Europe I have a system set up which gets about 1000 free to air channels, including all the relevant german and brittish channels.
It works via VDR and uses the streamdev plugin to stream video to the internet.In the US many people could provide such streaming services for their local programmes.
Kinda like peer to peer streaming.
Unfortunately I haven't seen any software for that yet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30103210</id>
	<title>My cable company is the *only* internet provider!</title>
	<author>cwgmpls</author>
	<datestamp>1258214760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Its great if you have the choice.  In my neighborhood, broadband internet is only available through my local cable company.  If I sign up for internet and drop cable -- I still have cable!  The U.S. feels more like a third world country every day.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its great if you have the choice .
In my neighborhood , broadband internet is only available through my local cable company .
If I sign up for internet and drop cable -- I still have cable !
The U.S. feels more like a third world country every day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its great if you have the choice.
In my neighborhood, broadband internet is only available through my local cable company.
If I sign up for internet and drop cable -- I still have cable!
The U.S. feels more like a third world country every day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30095074</id>
	<title>Re:Is it live, or is it Memorex</title>
	<author>drsquare</author>
	<datestamp>1258134060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's got to be horseshit. Supposing someone finished work at 5pm, by the time they've got home, had a shower and some tea, it's 6pm. They then watch TV until 2am?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's got to be horseshit .
Supposing someone finished work at 5pm , by the time they 've got home , had a shower and some tea , it 's 6pm .
They then watch TV until 2am ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's got to be horseshit.
Supposing someone finished work at 5pm, by the time they've got home, had a shower and some tea, it's 6pm.
They then watch TV until 2am?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30103632</id>
	<title>Re:Playstation 3</title>
	<author>CronoCloud</author>
	<datestamp>1258218780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're forgetting that since older model PS3's can boot into Linux, they also have torrent clients and media transcoders.  So you could torrent the stuff in Linux, transcode with ffmpeg/mencoder (if necessary), and put the finished videos on external storage for viewing under GameOS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're forgetting that since older model PS3 's can boot into Linux , they also have torrent clients and media transcoders .
So you could torrent the stuff in Linux , transcode with ffmpeg/mencoder ( if necessary ) , and put the finished videos on external storage for viewing under GameOS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're forgetting that since older model PS3's can boot into Linux, they also have torrent clients and media transcoders.
So you could torrent the stuff in Linux, transcode with ffmpeg/mencoder (if necessary), and put the finished videos on external storage for viewing under GameOS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094458</id>
	<title>Re:Won't last forever</title>
	<author>AusIV</author>
	<datestamp>1258126260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I pay $8.99 a month for a subscription to Netflix, which gets me 1 DVD at a time and unlimited access to Netflix watch instantly. When I started using Hulu, I looked to see if there was some way I could pay a monthly fee to get rid of ads and was stunned that there wasn't (though it sounds like there may be soon). I'm happy to pay a small monthly fee for the shows I want to watch rather than paying $40 a month for the same shows plus several dozen channels I'm never going to watch.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I pay $ 8.99 a month for a subscription to Netflix , which gets me 1 DVD at a time and unlimited access to Netflix watch instantly .
When I started using Hulu , I looked to see if there was some way I could pay a monthly fee to get rid of ads and was stunned that there was n't ( though it sounds like there may be soon ) .
I 'm happy to pay a small monthly fee for the shows I want to watch rather than paying $ 40 a month for the same shows plus several dozen channels I 'm never going to watch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I pay $8.99 a month for a subscription to Netflix, which gets me 1 DVD at a time and unlimited access to Netflix watch instantly.
When I started using Hulu, I looked to see if there was some way I could pay a monthly fee to get rid of ads and was stunned that there wasn't (though it sounds like there may be soon).
I'm happy to pay a small monthly fee for the shows I want to watch rather than paying $40 a month for the same shows plus several dozen channels I'm never going to watch.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093916</id>
	<title>Using cable to distribute video</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258120860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't have cable and I use a DSL modem.  I have a cheap $30 gforce with an svideo out and what I did was get a <a href="http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?&amp;catalogId=10053&amp;productId=100572314" title="homedepot.com">RF Modulator</a> [homedepot.com] at Home Depot and I feed the svideo (well, composite, after a quick convert) and audio into it.  Then I connected it to my house cable (it was wired for cable already).  Outside I disabled the feed from the cable company.  Anyway, I connected my TV to my home cable and I just set it to channel 4 to view any content I want.</p><p>Netflix includes Instant Play which has a TON of movies, all included with your $8.95/month membership.  Lots of TV show DVDs, especially.  It's a great deal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't have cable and I use a DSL modem .
I have a cheap $ 30 gforce with an svideo out and what I did was get a RF Modulator [ homedepot.com ] at Home Depot and I feed the svideo ( well , composite , after a quick convert ) and audio into it .
Then I connected it to my house cable ( it was wired for cable already ) .
Outside I disabled the feed from the cable company .
Anyway , I connected my TV to my home cable and I just set it to channel 4 to view any content I want.Netflix includes Instant Play which has a TON of movies , all included with your $ 8.95/month membership .
Lots of TV show DVDs , especially .
It 's a great deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't have cable and I use a DSL modem.
I have a cheap $30 gforce with an svideo out and what I did was get a RF Modulator [homedepot.com] at Home Depot and I feed the svideo (well, composite, after a quick convert) and audio into it.
Then I connected it to my house cable (it was wired for cable already).
Outside I disabled the feed from the cable company.
Anyway, I connected my TV to my home cable and I just set it to channel 4 to view any content I want.Netflix includes Instant Play which has a TON of movies, all included with your $8.95/month membership.
Lots of TV show DVDs, especially.
It's a great deal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30099226</id>
	<title>Re:The cable co will just set low caps. also live</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1258225800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With my 100 GB cap (which I pay through the nose to get so high) I don't think they'll have to set it any lower.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With my 100 GB cap ( which I pay through the nose to get so high ) I do n't think they 'll have to set it any lower .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With my 100 GB cap (which I pay through the nose to get so high) I don't think they'll have to set it any lower.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30095256</id>
	<title>Re:Won't last forever</title>
	<author>greyhueofdoubt</author>
	<datestamp>1258136820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>At some point, expect paywalls to appear, at least for 'premium content' or selected episodes of a season or whatever.</p> </div><p>I don't mind that. No, seriously. When cable TV started, the idea was that if you paid for content, you wouldn't have to deal with commercials (we all saw how that turned out).</p><p>I would be happy to pay for the content I watch as long as I am only paying for the content I *want* to watch. This will save money for me and funnel money into the kinds of shows that I watch. It seems like a win-win situation to me.</p><p>I would be happy if my money went into a system with futurama and arrested development and NOT everybody loves raymond. That would mean that I got what I wanted and the producers would see that one more person wasn't willing to pay for crap (or what I consider to be crap).</p><p>-b</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>At some point , expect paywalls to appear , at least for 'premium content ' or selected episodes of a season or whatever .
I do n't mind that .
No , seriously .
When cable TV started , the idea was that if you paid for content , you would n't have to deal with commercials ( we all saw how that turned out ) .I would be happy to pay for the content I watch as long as I am only paying for the content I * want * to watch .
This will save money for me and funnel money into the kinds of shows that I watch .
It seems like a win-win situation to me.I would be happy if my money went into a system with futurama and arrested development and NOT everybody loves raymond .
That would mean that I got what I wanted and the producers would see that one more person was n't willing to pay for crap ( or what I consider to be crap ) .-b</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At some point, expect paywalls to appear, at least for 'premium content' or selected episodes of a season or whatever.
I don't mind that.
No, seriously.
When cable TV started, the idea was that if you paid for content, you wouldn't have to deal with commercials (we all saw how that turned out).I would be happy to pay for the content I watch as long as I am only paying for the content I *want* to watch.
This will save money for me and funnel money into the kinds of shows that I watch.
It seems like a win-win situation to me.I would be happy if my money went into a system with futurama and arrested development and NOT everybody loves raymond.
That would mean that I got what I wanted and the producers would see that one more person wasn't willing to pay for crap (or what I consider to be crap).-b
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30096906</id>
	<title>Re:Using cable to distribute video</title>
	<author>7213</author>
	<datestamp>1258209240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>RF IR extenders are a godsend for this sort of thing. I recently purchased a "Next Generation Remote Control Extender" that I HIGHLY recommend. I've got my HTPC in the basement and can use the remote control from my bedroom on the second floor without issue.<br><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Next-Generation-Remote-Control-Extender/dp/B000C1Z0HA" title="amazon.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Next-Generation-Remote-Control-Extender/dp/B000C1Z0HA</a> [amazon.com]</p><p>Basicly it comes with a very small rechargeable battery that can be put in either an AAA or AA sleeve (The sleeve houses an RF transmitter) . You put this battery &amp; sleeve into the remote control's battery holder and it senses the IR LEDs load on the battery. Turns that data into RF and sends it to a base station placed where your video source is, the base station then sends out the original IR signal. Replaces the 'wife/gf remote' w/a more submissive model<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-) (Un)fortunately it doesn't have all the features of the wife/gf, so you should keep at least one of them around as well if those features are important to you (I often question if the tinkering &amp; effort to keep 'em functioning properly is worth it).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>RF IR extenders are a godsend for this sort of thing .
I recently purchased a " Next Generation Remote Control Extender " that I HIGHLY recommend .
I 've got my HTPC in the basement and can use the remote control from my bedroom on the second floor without issue.http : //www.amazon.com/Next-Generation-Remote-Control-Extender/dp/B000C1Z0HA [ amazon.com ] Basicly it comes with a very small rechargeable battery that can be put in either an AAA or AA sleeve ( The sleeve houses an RF transmitter ) .
You put this battery &amp; sleeve into the remote control 's battery holder and it senses the IR LEDs load on the battery .
Turns that data into RF and sends it to a base station placed where your video source is , the base station then sends out the original IR signal .
Replaces the 'wife/gf remote ' w/a more submissive model ; - ) ( Un ) fortunately it does n't have all the features of the wife/gf , so you should keep at least one of them around as well if those features are important to you ( I often question if the tinkering &amp; effort to keep 'em functioning properly is worth it ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RF IR extenders are a godsend for this sort of thing.
I recently purchased a "Next Generation Remote Control Extender" that I HIGHLY recommend.
I've got my HTPC in the basement and can use the remote control from my bedroom on the second floor without issue.http://www.amazon.com/Next-Generation-Remote-Control-Extender/dp/B000C1Z0HA [amazon.com]Basicly it comes with a very small rechargeable battery that can be put in either an AAA or AA sleeve (The sleeve houses an RF transmitter) .
You put this battery &amp; sleeve into the remote control's battery holder and it senses the IR LEDs load on the battery.
Turns that data into RF and sends it to a base station placed where your video source is, the base station then sends out the original IR signal.
Replaces the 'wife/gf remote' w/a more submissive model ;-) (Un)fortunately it doesn't have all the features of the wife/gf, so you should keep at least one of them around as well if those features are important to you (I often question if the tinkering &amp; effort to keep 'em functioning properly is worth it).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093922</id>
	<title>YouTube</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258120860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What YouTube content equates to broadcast TV? Just come out and say it that you're going to be automating TV show torrents.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What YouTube content equates to broadcast TV ?
Just come out and say it that you 're going to be automating TV show torrents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What YouTube content equates to broadcast TV?
Just come out and say it that you're going to be automating TV show torrents.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30096566</id>
	<title>Re:1080p Youtube?</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1258204260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>BluRay is only 30Mb/s, so you definitely don't need 60Mb/s for it.  iPlayer manages 720p looking reasonable in under 4Mb/s, so I'd imagine that you could get a decent-looking 1080p stream into 100Mb/s, you'd just lose a bit of quality.</htmltext>
<tokenext>BluRay is only 30Mb/s , so you definitely do n't need 60Mb/s for it .
iPlayer manages 720p looking reasonable in under 4Mb/s , so I 'd imagine that you could get a decent-looking 1080p stream into 100Mb/s , you 'd just lose a bit of quality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>BluRay is only 30Mb/s, so you definitely don't need 60Mb/s for it.
iPlayer manages 720p looking reasonable in under 4Mb/s, so I'd imagine that you could get a decent-looking 1080p stream into 100Mb/s, you'd just lose a bit of quality.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094760</id>
	<title>PVR?</title>
	<author>sunfly</author>
	<datestamp>1258129740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why would you need a pvr with a stream?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would you need a pvr with a stream ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would you need a pvr with a stream?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094036</id>
	<title>Telecoms...</title>
	<author>recharged95</author>
	<datestamp>1258121700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"Time To Ditch Cable For Internet TV?"</i>
<br>
<br>
Not do-able if you get internet <b>from</b> your cable provider (Fios, or Uverse too).... If they see a shift, guess what: internet bandwidth costs will go up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Time To Ditch Cable For Internet TV ?
" Not do-able if you get internet from your cable provider ( Fios , or Uverse too ) .... If they see a shift , guess what : internet bandwidth costs will go up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Time To Ditch Cable For Internet TV?
"


Not do-able if you get internet from your cable provider (Fios, or Uverse too).... If they see a shift, guess what: internet bandwidth costs will go up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094200</id>
	<title>Hulu Dekstop??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258123320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The article made no mention of it this, but Hulu desktop has revolutionized the TV-watching habits of my girlfriend and I since we got it on our Macs; paired with the Apple Remote control it's better than my Comcast and much more responsive and easy to use that onDemand. Also, we have a Netflix when we're in the mood for a movie.<br> <br>I still don't think I could get her to kick the Cable just yet though...</htmltext>
<tokenext>The article made no mention of it this , but Hulu desktop has revolutionized the TV-watching habits of my girlfriend and I since we got it on our Macs ; paired with the Apple Remote control it 's better than my Comcast and much more responsive and easy to use that onDemand .
Also , we have a Netflix when we 're in the mood for a movie .
I still do n't think I could get her to kick the Cable just yet though.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article made no mention of it this, but Hulu desktop has revolutionized the TV-watching habits of my girlfriend and I since we got it on our Macs; paired with the Apple Remote control it's better than my Comcast and much more responsive and easy to use that onDemand.
Also, we have a Netflix when we're in the mood for a movie.
I still don't think I could get her to kick the Cable just yet though...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094032</id>
	<title>Just one problem</title>
	<author>rossdee</author>
	<datestamp>1258121700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My internet connection is via the cable company...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My internet connection is via the cable company.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My internet connection is via the cable company...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094726</id>
	<title>check</title>
	<author>sunfly</author>
	<datestamp>1258129440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dropped our cable about 2 years ago, when the price went from $40 to $50 a month.  With Netflix, Hulu, and Boxee streaming through our $50 off lease Dell, the only thing we miss is sports.  May put up an antennae just to pull in the local teams in HD.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dropped our cable about 2 years ago , when the price went from $ 40 to $ 50 a month .
With Netflix , Hulu , and Boxee streaming through our $ 50 off lease Dell , the only thing we miss is sports .
May put up an antennae just to pull in the local teams in HD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dropped our cable about 2 years ago, when the price went from $40 to $50 a month.
With Netflix, Hulu, and Boxee streaming through our $50 off lease Dell, the only thing we miss is sports.
May put up an antennae just to pull in the local teams in HD.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094100</id>
	<title>Nerds</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258122300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course nerds will say yes. Just like how their granny has Linux on the desktop, which is never dual booted on to with their windows xp box with IE6.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course nerds will say yes .
Just like how their granny has Linux on the desktop , which is never dual booted on to with their windows xp box with IE6 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course nerds will say yes.
Just like how their granny has Linux on the desktop, which is never dual booted on to with their windows xp box with IE6.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30096722</id>
	<title>Re:I've canceled mine</title>
	<author>Ratbert42</author>
	<datestamp>1258206840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For sports, you can try ESPN 360. My ISP doesn't carry it, but my neighbor's does. Justin.tv carries a lot of sports coverage and ESPN and others don't seem to mind enough to take down the streams.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For sports , you can try ESPN 360 .
My ISP does n't carry it , but my neighbor 's does .
Justin.tv carries a lot of sports coverage and ESPN and others do n't seem to mind enough to take down the streams .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For sports, you can try ESPN 360.
My ISP doesn't carry it, but my neighbor's does.
Justin.tv carries a lot of sports coverage and ESPN and others don't seem to mind enough to take down the streams.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093894</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30098332</id>
	<title>Re:Just one problem</title>
	<author>ISoldat53</author>
	<datestamp>1258220640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Same here and my phone company DSL sucks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Same here and my phone company DSL sucks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Same here and my phone company DSL sucks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094032</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094404</id>
	<title>Re:Won't last forever</title>
	<author>JoeMerchant</author>
	<datestamp>1258125480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe we can start paying for the shows we like instead of being coerced into $70/month plans to get a channel that carries a decent show once in awhile.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe we can start paying for the shows we like instead of being coerced into $ 70/month plans to get a channel that carries a decent show once in awhile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe we can start paying for the shows we like instead of being coerced into $70/month plans to get a channel that carries a decent show once in awhile.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094122</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094120</id>
	<title>Deaf</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258122540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi.</p><p>That's all fine and dandy, but I'm deaf.  I *need* captions and subtitles.  Guess what, there's no legal reason for them to be on all these internet services.</p><p>Looks like I'll be paying Cable TV Raepage until the end of time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi.That 's all fine and dandy , but I 'm deaf .
I * need * captions and subtitles .
Guess what , there 's no legal reason for them to be on all these internet services.Looks like I 'll be paying Cable TV Raepage until the end of time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi.That's all fine and dandy, but I'm deaf.
I *need* captions and subtitles.
Guess what, there's no legal reason for them to be on all these internet services.Looks like I'll be paying Cable TV Raepage until the end of time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30095362</id>
	<title>You can still watch sports?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258138500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Christ they try their hardest to make sports as unwatchable as possible.</p><p>I want to thank the NFL for making the SuperBowl increasingly unwatchable.</p><p>Every year the game becomes more and more packaged, with less and less time actually spent in the game and more and more time in commercials. Add to that that the game has been a blow out for the last 10 years (well maybe not the last 10. I stopped caring ~4 years ago.) Past the first half, the game is effectively over and no one cares anymore. They have moved on to talking with other people at the party.</p><p>The party which is never as good as people build it up to being (partially because of the boring game). Unfortunately, everyone and their mother feel that they need to host a SuperBowl party because it is now an "event." Half the people aren't fans of the sport, let alone the game. We just show up because it is the SuperBowl and we are supposed to care (once upon a time I used to care). 2-5 people spend the entire game in the kitchen making fancy party foods (super-pizza, super-nachos, super-subs, etc.) that no one needs. I just need a bag of chip/crisps in a bowl, please. Of course it is a party where no one gets drunk because it is the middle of the day before we go to work on Monday and we also all know the neo-Prohibitionists in MADD are going to have the cops out with the breath-testers. So, if you have 2 beers and decide to drive you're in for a hefty fine and a lecture. Enjoy your sober mid-day party.</p><p>What type of cameras are they using to film football? The game on TV is ultra-shiny in a way that real life isn't. I have been to many NFL games in real life, sat 10 rows off the field. The real life games aren't that glossy and shiny. And that is part of why the games now look so fake on TV. They have the SuperBowl in some city that has no chance of actually playing in the game. The entire field is enclosed and climate controlled. It is (was) the middle of winter and it looks like a bright sunny summer day in Florida on the field. We are never going to have another Ice Bowl. We are never going to have another SuperBowl where the weather matters. No more mud on the field. No more snow, forcing a running game. Just a highly packaged, processed, blah. It is like once we got to eat hand-packed hamburgers and now we get McDonald's Quarter Pounders. It is artificial crap.</p><p>Also every 3-5 years they push the SuperBowl back another week. The game used to be in the beginning of January. Now it is in February. It doesn't really matter since it is played in the perpetual astro-turfed summer of the domed field, but it just isn't what it should be.</p><p>I guess that gives them more time to set up the half-time show. A show everyone traditionally turns the channel on. And in an effort to get as corporately packaged as possible the half time show is always some weird mixture designed to appeal to every demographic simultaneously. It is always some 45 minute extravaganza that combines Country &amp; Hip-Hop music to the gayest, most Tony award winning choreography imaginable. And if that isn't enough let us throw a huge fireworks show in the middle of the field! Let us also not run the lip-synched sound directly to the TV feed. That way the TV feed can make due with mics on the field, which sounds like they are filming in a cave. Of course, the singers can't lip-synch worth a damn because it very hard to do when you are jumping around the cast of Rent with M80s going off 2 feet away from your head.</p><p>You can tell the game isn't what it should be. Instead of following the action on the field, we are treated to a never ending montage of reaction shots from the players looking bored on the sidelines. I guess they can't get into the game either with the 6 million TV timeouts, real timeouts, instant replay time outs, referee timeouts, Coca-Cola timeouts, etc.</p><p>Here is how bad the game has become a sizable portion of the US watches the game just to see the commercials. Name one other time that you do this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Christ they try their hardest to make sports as unwatchable as possible.I want to thank the NFL for making the SuperBowl increasingly unwatchable.Every year the game becomes more and more packaged , with less and less time actually spent in the game and more and more time in commercials .
Add to that that the game has been a blow out for the last 10 years ( well maybe not the last 10 .
I stopped caring ~ 4 years ago .
) Past the first half , the game is effectively over and no one cares anymore .
They have moved on to talking with other people at the party.The party which is never as good as people build it up to being ( partially because of the boring game ) .
Unfortunately , everyone and their mother feel that they need to host a SuperBowl party because it is now an " event .
" Half the people are n't fans of the sport , let alone the game .
We just show up because it is the SuperBowl and we are supposed to care ( once upon a time I used to care ) .
2-5 people spend the entire game in the kitchen making fancy party foods ( super-pizza , super-nachos , super-subs , etc .
) that no one needs .
I just need a bag of chip/crisps in a bowl , please .
Of course it is a party where no one gets drunk because it is the middle of the day before we go to work on Monday and we also all know the neo-Prohibitionists in MADD are going to have the cops out with the breath-testers .
So , if you have 2 beers and decide to drive you 're in for a hefty fine and a lecture .
Enjoy your sober mid-day party.What type of cameras are they using to film football ?
The game on TV is ultra-shiny in a way that real life is n't .
I have been to many NFL games in real life , sat 10 rows off the field .
The real life games are n't that glossy and shiny .
And that is part of why the games now look so fake on TV .
They have the SuperBowl in some city that has no chance of actually playing in the game .
The entire field is enclosed and climate controlled .
It is ( was ) the middle of winter and it looks like a bright sunny summer day in Florida on the field .
We are never going to have another Ice Bowl .
We are never going to have another SuperBowl where the weather matters .
No more mud on the field .
No more snow , forcing a running game .
Just a highly packaged , processed , blah .
It is like once we got to eat hand-packed hamburgers and now we get McDonald 's Quarter Pounders .
It is artificial crap.Also every 3-5 years they push the SuperBowl back another week .
The game used to be in the beginning of January .
Now it is in February .
It does n't really matter since it is played in the perpetual astro-turfed summer of the domed field , but it just is n't what it should be.I guess that gives them more time to set up the half-time show .
A show everyone traditionally turns the channel on .
And in an effort to get as corporately packaged as possible the half time show is always some weird mixture designed to appeal to every demographic simultaneously .
It is always some 45 minute extravaganza that combines Country &amp; Hip-Hop music to the gayest , most Tony award winning choreography imaginable .
And if that is n't enough let us throw a huge fireworks show in the middle of the field !
Let us also not run the lip-synched sound directly to the TV feed .
That way the TV feed can make due with mics on the field , which sounds like they are filming in a cave .
Of course , the singers ca n't lip-synch worth a damn because it very hard to do when you are jumping around the cast of Rent with M80s going off 2 feet away from your head.You can tell the game is n't what it should be .
Instead of following the action on the field , we are treated to a never ending montage of reaction shots from the players looking bored on the sidelines .
I guess they ca n't get into the game either with the 6 million TV timeouts , real timeouts , instant replay time outs , referee timeouts , Coca-Cola timeouts , etc.Here is how bad the game has become a sizable portion of the US watches the game just to see the commercials .
Name one other time that you do this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Christ they try their hardest to make sports as unwatchable as possible.I want to thank the NFL for making the SuperBowl increasingly unwatchable.Every year the game becomes more and more packaged, with less and less time actually spent in the game and more and more time in commercials.
Add to that that the game has been a blow out for the last 10 years (well maybe not the last 10.
I stopped caring ~4 years ago.
) Past the first half, the game is effectively over and no one cares anymore.
They have moved on to talking with other people at the party.The party which is never as good as people build it up to being (partially because of the boring game).
Unfortunately, everyone and their mother feel that they need to host a SuperBowl party because it is now an "event.
" Half the people aren't fans of the sport, let alone the game.
We just show up because it is the SuperBowl and we are supposed to care (once upon a time I used to care).
2-5 people spend the entire game in the kitchen making fancy party foods (super-pizza, super-nachos, super-subs, etc.
) that no one needs.
I just need a bag of chip/crisps in a bowl, please.
Of course it is a party where no one gets drunk because it is the middle of the day before we go to work on Monday and we also all know the neo-Prohibitionists in MADD are going to have the cops out with the breath-testers.
So, if you have 2 beers and decide to drive you're in for a hefty fine and a lecture.
Enjoy your sober mid-day party.What type of cameras are they using to film football?
The game on TV is ultra-shiny in a way that real life isn't.
I have been to many NFL games in real life, sat 10 rows off the field.
The real life games aren't that glossy and shiny.
And that is part of why the games now look so fake on TV.
They have the SuperBowl in some city that has no chance of actually playing in the game.
The entire field is enclosed and climate controlled.
It is (was) the middle of winter and it looks like a bright sunny summer day in Florida on the field.
We are never going to have another Ice Bowl.
We are never going to have another SuperBowl where the weather matters.
No more mud on the field.
No more snow, forcing a running game.
Just a highly packaged, processed, blah.
It is like once we got to eat hand-packed hamburgers and now we get McDonald's Quarter Pounders.
It is artificial crap.Also every 3-5 years they push the SuperBowl back another week.
The game used to be in the beginning of January.
Now it is in February.
It doesn't really matter since it is played in the perpetual astro-turfed summer of the domed field, but it just isn't what it should be.I guess that gives them more time to set up the half-time show.
A show everyone traditionally turns the channel on.
And in an effort to get as corporately packaged as possible the half time show is always some weird mixture designed to appeal to every demographic simultaneously.
It is always some 45 minute extravaganza that combines Country &amp; Hip-Hop music to the gayest, most Tony award winning choreography imaginable.
And if that isn't enough let us throw a huge fireworks show in the middle of the field!
Let us also not run the lip-synched sound directly to the TV feed.
That way the TV feed can make due with mics on the field, which sounds like they are filming in a cave.
Of course, the singers can't lip-synch worth a damn because it very hard to do when you are jumping around the cast of Rent with M80s going off 2 feet away from your head.You can tell the game isn't what it should be.
Instead of following the action on the field, we are treated to a never ending montage of reaction shots from the players looking bored on the sidelines.
I guess they can't get into the game either with the 6 million TV timeouts, real timeouts, instant replay time outs, referee timeouts, Coca-Cola timeouts, etc.Here is how bad the game has become a sizable portion of the US watches the game just to see the commercials.
Name one other time that you do this?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094010</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30104142</id>
	<title>Re:I've canceled mine</title>
	<author>spgass</author>
	<datestamp>1258224420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've canceled mine, too, but don't watch Internet TV...  just free over-the-air tv.  More info <a href="http://lowtechtimes.com/2009/04/06/the-case-for-free-tv/" title="lowtechtimes.com" rel="nofollow">here</a> [lowtechtimes.com], if interested.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've canceled mine , too , but do n't watch Internet TV... just free over-the-air tv .
More info here [ lowtechtimes.com ] , if interested .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've canceled mine, too, but don't watch Internet TV...  just free over-the-air tv.
More info here [lowtechtimes.com], if interested.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093894</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30095190</id>
	<title>Re:Telecoms...</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1258135920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Would you mind spelling out why you think that's the case?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would you mind spelling out why you think that 's the case ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would you mind spelling out why you think that's the case?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094036</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30098136</id>
	<title>Internet not optimal for this</title>
	<author>pcjunky</author>
	<datestamp>1258219680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While it is possible to broadcast video and use the Internet as your delivery method, the Internet was meant for two-way communications. Protocols that were developed for broadcast never (Multicast, Mbone) really took off.</p><p>If you want to send the same content to thousands or even millions of people broadcast makes more sense. If you think about it satellite makes the most sense. Once you have your stuff in space you can send the same content to virtually every person on an entire continent for same cost as sending to one person. You have no other scaling of infrastructure needed to "grow your network".</p><p>With this system the more customers you have the less it should cost per customer. The only reason this doesn't work in reality is that satellite companies don't charge based on what it costs them, they charge "what the market will bear". They adopted the pricing structure of their competition (Cable companies) when they started and see no reason to change. After all there are really only two of them (not enough to provide real competition).</p><p>The thing satellite can't do very well is Internet. The system isn't setup to allow two way connection. Yes they can do this for a relatively high price, but even when they do it doesn't work very well (speed of light is not fast enough). I don't know anyone who uses satellite if they have any other choice.</p><p>Lets leave the Internet to do the things it does well and use other methods for what they do well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While it is possible to broadcast video and use the Internet as your delivery method , the Internet was meant for two-way communications .
Protocols that were developed for broadcast never ( Multicast , Mbone ) really took off.If you want to send the same content to thousands or even millions of people broadcast makes more sense .
If you think about it satellite makes the most sense .
Once you have your stuff in space you can send the same content to virtually every person on an entire continent for same cost as sending to one person .
You have no other scaling of infrastructure needed to " grow your network " .With this system the more customers you have the less it should cost per customer .
The only reason this does n't work in reality is that satellite companies do n't charge based on what it costs them , they charge " what the market will bear " .
They adopted the pricing structure of their competition ( Cable companies ) when they started and see no reason to change .
After all there are really only two of them ( not enough to provide real competition ) .The thing satellite ca n't do very well is Internet .
The system is n't setup to allow two way connection .
Yes they can do this for a relatively high price , but even when they do it does n't work very well ( speed of light is not fast enough ) .
I do n't know anyone who uses satellite if they have any other choice.Lets leave the Internet to do the things it does well and use other methods for what they do well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While it is possible to broadcast video and use the Internet as your delivery method, the Internet was meant for two-way communications.
Protocols that were developed for broadcast never (Multicast, Mbone) really took off.If you want to send the same content to thousands or even millions of people broadcast makes more sense.
If you think about it satellite makes the most sense.
Once you have your stuff in space you can send the same content to virtually every person on an entire continent for same cost as sending to one person.
You have no other scaling of infrastructure needed to "grow your network".With this system the more customers you have the less it should cost per customer.
The only reason this doesn't work in reality is that satellite companies don't charge based on what it costs them, they charge "what the market will bear".
They adopted the pricing structure of their competition (Cable companies) when they started and see no reason to change.
After all there are really only two of them (not enough to provide real competition).The thing satellite can't do very well is Internet.
The system isn't setup to allow two way connection.
Yes they can do this for a relatively high price, but even when they do it doesn't work very well (speed of light is not fast enough).
I don't know anyone who uses satellite if they have any other choice.Lets leave the Internet to do the things it does well and use other methods for what they do well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094512</id>
	<title>PS3 + Netflix</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258126920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>with the free streaming on demand works better than cable for me; interesting content,  no commercials, can pause/replay/ffw/etc...  for just $20 per month. And it was the perfect excuse to get a PS3 to play from time to time..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>with the free streaming on demand works better than cable for me ; interesting content , no commercials , can pause/replay/ffw/etc... for just $ 20 per month .
And it was the perfect excuse to get a PS3 to play from time to time. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with the free streaming on demand works better than cable for me; interesting content,  no commercials, can pause/replay/ffw/etc...  for just $20 per month.
And it was the perfect excuse to get a PS3 to play from time to time..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094330</id>
	<title>Re:Waytago, Dell!</title>
	<author>steve.howard</author>
	<datestamp>1258124880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't know much about it, but shouldn't disabling AMT in the BIOS essentially solve the problem?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know much about it , but should n't disabling AMT in the BIOS essentially solve the problem ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know much about it, but shouldn't disabling AMT in the BIOS essentially solve the problem?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093924</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30095540</id>
	<title>HTPC + OTA = No cable bill (savings $840yr)</title>
	<author>Fishdoctor</author>
	<datestamp>1258141680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I read up on AVSforums how to build a HTPC. That is an excellent starting place for anyone interested in building a home theater PC. I ditched cable in the beginning of 09' and have not looked back since. Yes, there is maybe 4-5shows I miss, but for $70, they are not worth that.  I use Windows 7 Media Center for recording all my shows via OTA in HD. I have been checking some shows online too; the quality is not quite there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I read up on AVSforums how to build a HTPC .
That is an excellent starting place for anyone interested in building a home theater PC .
I ditched cable in the beginning of 09 ' and have not looked back since .
Yes , there is maybe 4-5shows I miss , but for $ 70 , they are not worth that .
I use Windows 7 Media Center for recording all my shows via OTA in HD .
I have been checking some shows online too ; the quality is not quite there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read up on AVSforums how to build a HTPC.
That is an excellent starting place for anyone interested in building a home theater PC.
I ditched cable in the beginning of 09' and have not looked back since.
Yes, there is maybe 4-5shows I miss, but for $70, they are not worth that.
I use Windows 7 Media Center for recording all my shows via OTA in HD.
I have been checking some shows online too; the quality is not quite there.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30097290</id>
	<title>Re:Waytago, Dell!</title>
	<author>sowth</author>
	<datestamp>1258212420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh, and since this is slashdot, I should mention they probably don't offer a Linux option because the guy who decided belongs to the cult of Microsoft. That or Microsoft is back to their anti-trust law violating ways. Would not be surprising since they weren't really punished the first time.

</p><p>And to keep this on topic... I'd rather watch Gentoo compile all my source for days and days than watch any cable TV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , and since this is slashdot , I should mention they probably do n't offer a Linux option because the guy who decided belongs to the cult of Microsoft .
That or Microsoft is back to their anti-trust law violating ways .
Would not be surprising since they were n't really punished the first time .
And to keep this on topic... I 'd rather watch Gentoo compile all my source for days and days than watch any cable TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, and since this is slashdot, I should mention they probably don't offer a Linux option because the guy who decided belongs to the cult of Microsoft.
That or Microsoft is back to their anti-trust law violating ways.
Would not be surprising since they weren't really punished the first time.
And to keep this on topic... I'd rather watch Gentoo compile all my source for days and days than watch any cable TV.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094286</id>
	<title>Increased competition will drive down the prices</title>
	<author>nanospook</author>
	<datestamp>1258124400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unlike cable companies which pretty much hold a monopoly, we may find ourselves with a multitude of internet TV companies. Now we will see true competition keeping the prices down..


PS Got rid of the TV and cable services more than a year ago. Have saved over a grand which went on the credit cards.

PSS Unless these internet TV services offer full captioning, I will probably stick to torrents.. hearing loss..</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unlike cable companies which pretty much hold a monopoly , we may find ourselves with a multitude of internet TV companies .
Now we will see true competition keeping the prices down. . PS Got rid of the TV and cable services more than a year ago .
Have saved over a grand which went on the credit cards .
PSS Unless these internet TV services offer full captioning , I will probably stick to torrents.. hearing loss. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unlike cable companies which pretty much hold a monopoly, we may find ourselves with a multitude of internet TV companies.
Now we will see true competition keeping the prices down..


PS Got rid of the TV and cable services more than a year ago.
Have saved over a grand which went on the credit cards.
PSS Unless these internet TV services offer full captioning, I will probably stick to torrents.. hearing loss..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094308</id>
	<title>Does anybody stream in 5.1?</title>
	<author>HockeyPuck</author>
	<datestamp>1258124640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Currently netflix doesn't stream in 5.1.  Only stereo. Not a problem if you watch movies on your home computer, but my TV is connected up to my 5.1 receiver.</p><p>How many of these streaming services provide live feeds? For free.</p><p>Most sporting events you need to pay to watch online.  Unless broadband provide gives you access to say ESPN360.<br>I don't recall too many news sites that stream the 6:00 news and many times I don't want to sit around and read news articles, because maybe I'm eating dinner, washing the dishes and can't scroll a webpage at the same time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Currently netflix does n't stream in 5.1 .
Only stereo .
Not a problem if you watch movies on your home computer , but my TV is connected up to my 5.1 receiver.How many of these streaming services provide live feeds ?
For free.Most sporting events you need to pay to watch online .
Unless broadband provide gives you access to say ESPN360.I do n't recall too many news sites that stream the 6 : 00 news and many times I do n't want to sit around and read news articles , because maybe I 'm eating dinner , washing the dishes and ca n't scroll a webpage at the same time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Currently netflix doesn't stream in 5.1.
Only stereo.
Not a problem if you watch movies on your home computer, but my TV is connected up to my 5.1 receiver.How many of these streaming services provide live feeds?
For free.Most sporting events you need to pay to watch online.
Unless broadband provide gives you access to say ESPN360.I don't recall too many news sites that stream the 6:00 news and many times I don't want to sit around and read news articles, because maybe I'm eating dinner, washing the dishes and can't scroll a webpage at the same time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093996</id>
	<title>1080p Youtube?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258121400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How many mbps is needed for that?  Right now I get 50mbps downstream via Verizon FiOS.  I thought you need at least 60mbps for that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How many mbps is needed for that ?
Right now I get 50mbps downstream via Verizon FiOS .
I thought you need at least 60mbps for that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many mbps is needed for that?
Right now I get 50mbps downstream via Verizon FiOS.
I thought you need at least 60mbps for that?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093982</id>
	<title>Was the internet meant for this?</title>
	<author>Provocateur</author>
	<datestamp>1258121340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has the tech caught up to provide us with shows When we want them, Where we want them? Or will (example only) iphone users or wireless users start feeling the crunch as the bandwidth is being hogged by ex-TV viewers? Will it be less information interchange and more of movie watching?</p><p>I don't want the creators of the internet to be rolling in their graves. Oh, wait...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has the tech caught up to provide us with shows When we want them , Where we want them ?
Or will ( example only ) iphone users or wireless users start feeling the crunch as the bandwidth is being hogged by ex-TV viewers ?
Will it be less information interchange and more of movie watching ? I do n't want the creators of the internet to be rolling in their graves .
Oh , wait.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has the tech caught up to provide us with shows When we want them, Where we want them?
Or will (example only) iphone users or wireless users start feeling the crunch as the bandwidth is being hogged by ex-TV viewers?
Will it be less information interchange and more of movie watching?I don't want the creators of the internet to be rolling in their graves.
Oh, wait...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094010</id>
	<title>Sports and Crappy Slow Internet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258121520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>For me I will never give up cable until I can get sports with the ease and quality that I can on my TV.  Sports really need to be watched live, and unless streaming makes leaps and bounds the internet is not going to catch up with HD TV anytime soon.  I always find that on the internet the term HD is used very loosely.  HD movies on Youtube don't compare to cable, neither does a single TV show downloaded with bittorrent that is labelled "HD".  I have seen some "HD web streams" and they are<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... if your lucky<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...the same quality as digital cable.  <br> <br>Don't get me wrong, I hate my cable provider with a passion, but I can't give them up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For me I will never give up cable until I can get sports with the ease and quality that I can on my TV .
Sports really need to be watched live , and unless streaming makes leaps and bounds the internet is not going to catch up with HD TV anytime soon .
I always find that on the internet the term HD is used very loosely .
HD movies on Youtube do n't compare to cable , neither does a single TV show downloaded with bittorrent that is labelled " HD " .
I have seen some " HD web streams " and they are ... if your lucky ...the same quality as digital cable .
Do n't get me wrong , I hate my cable provider with a passion , but I ca n't give them up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For me I will never give up cable until I can get sports with the ease and quality that I can on my TV.
Sports really need to be watched live, and unless streaming makes leaps and bounds the internet is not going to catch up with HD TV anytime soon.
I always find that on the internet the term HD is used very loosely.
HD movies on Youtube don't compare to cable, neither does a single TV show downloaded with bittorrent that is labelled "HD".
I have seen some "HD web streams" and they are ... if your lucky ...the same quality as digital cable.
Don't get me wrong, I hate my cable provider with a passion, but I can't give them up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094454</id>
	<title>Re:Won't last forever</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258126260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Won't last forever</p></div><p>Thats okay, I'd gladly pay for a quality streaming media service. I pay for Pandora because its what I want, when I want it, and at a reasonable price. I'd pay for movies and TV if the "what I want" and the "when I want" existed, but the idiot media companies are trying to take an archaic business model (free content + adds) into the next age of media. I have a solution for this though, and it is to vote with dollars <em>and bytes</em>. We are not at the mercy of the big media corps, they are at the mercy of us. Buy things that make sense and that you enjoy. Pirate everything else. This is how I pirate:</p><p>My rules of pirating:<br>1. Pirate games, especially before you buy (but you shouldn't be buying). They are stupidly expensive for no reason and their quality is steadily decreasing due to how easy the consumers are to fool. Steam is the only company I know of that does games right, and I will and do buy games from/through them.<br>2. Pirate music if its from Big Media, pirate it if its from indies before you buy it, and buy it if you like it. Share it (IRL) as much as possible. Music is love.<br>3. See movies at the theater, then pirate. Pay for the experience and finance the next season's blockbusters, but never, and I can't stress this enough, NEVER buy DVDs.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wo n't last foreverThats okay , I 'd gladly pay for a quality streaming media service .
I pay for Pandora because its what I want , when I want it , and at a reasonable price .
I 'd pay for movies and TV if the " what I want " and the " when I want " existed , but the idiot media companies are trying to take an archaic business model ( free content + adds ) into the next age of media .
I have a solution for this though , and it is to vote with dollars and bytes .
We are not at the mercy of the big media corps , they are at the mercy of us .
Buy things that make sense and that you enjoy .
Pirate everything else .
This is how I pirate : My rules of pirating : 1 .
Pirate games , especially before you buy ( but you should n't be buying ) .
They are stupidly expensive for no reason and their quality is steadily decreasing due to how easy the consumers are to fool .
Steam is the only company I know of that does games right , and I will and do buy games from/through them.2 .
Pirate music if its from Big Media , pirate it if its from indies before you buy it , and buy it if you like it .
Share it ( IRL ) as much as possible .
Music is love.3 .
See movies at the theater , then pirate .
Pay for the experience and finance the next season 's blockbusters , but never , and I ca n't stress this enough , NEVER buy DVDs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Won't last foreverThats okay, I'd gladly pay for a quality streaming media service.
I pay for Pandora because its what I want, when I want it, and at a reasonable price.
I'd pay for movies and TV if the "what I want" and the "when I want" existed, but the idiot media companies are trying to take an archaic business model (free content + adds) into the next age of media.
I have a solution for this though, and it is to vote with dollars and bytes.
We are not at the mercy of the big media corps, they are at the mercy of us.
Buy things that make sense and that you enjoy.
Pirate everything else.
This is how I pirate:My rules of pirating:1.
Pirate games, especially before you buy (but you shouldn't be buying).
They are stupidly expensive for no reason and their quality is steadily decreasing due to how easy the consumers are to fool.
Steam is the only company I know of that does games right, and I will and do buy games from/through them.2.
Pirate music if its from Big Media, pirate it if its from indies before you buy it, and buy it if you like it.
Share it (IRL) as much as possible.
Music is love.3.
See movies at the theater, then pirate.
Pay for the experience and finance the next season's blockbusters, but never, and I can't stress this enough, NEVER buy DVDs.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094122</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094374</id>
	<title>I'm on the fence...</title>
	<author>BLKMGK</author>
	<datestamp>1258125180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I own a TIVO HD and it's setup to grab all of my favorite shows. I use KMTTG to pull the video off, VideoRedo to to strip commercials, and I am working on figuring out ways to best compress this down from HD to a good looking SD. Trying for the 350meg an hour size I can get from torrents.</p><p>Here's the killer. Video comes off my TIVO at about 1meg a second and 8Gig files take time. Then I get to encode, this takes a little while but I'm using an overclocked I7 @4.2ghz - it FLIES. I haven't quite automated this but it's not faroff - I just need to get the encoding profile nailed down. Sounds good right? Last night while I was tinkering with encoding profiles and getitng pretty frustrated I had managed to get the RSS feed for uTorrent working and it had pulled up the SAME shows I was recording as being available for download. After spending HOURS frustrated playing with this I downloaded the torrents. They took about 6-15mins apiece! Talk about frustrating! If I can better automate my processing off the TIVO I'll be pretty happy but it sure is way easier downloading! I'd like to be a little more legit but damn it's much more work. The DVD and BD files I've got nailed down, I don't ever download movies.</p><p>So what do I store and watch this with? I use unRAID for storage. ALL of my DVD\BDs are ripped and stored as well as my MP3 on a server that holds a bit over 8TB and growing. My second server holds my backups, misc files, and my TV shows - it's about 8TB too. With the latest software upgrade to unRAID it's WAAAY faster too. That's the storage end..</p><p>Viewing is even easier. I use an ASROCK 330 dual core ATOM box. It supports VDPAU under Ubuntu and I use XBMC to view the content. Streaming audio stations, pictures, and all of my stored video. I've not really tried BOXEE much, it's a fork of XBMC. So is Plex. All of them work well I'm sure, XBMC updates their code in SVN constantly and it just keeps getting better. I get 5.1 surround sound via HDMI and I can play high bitrate video without dropped frames thanks to the VDPAU code.</p><p>The ASROCK consumes little power, the unRAID storage spins down drives when they aren't being used, my desktop probably uses more power than all of them combined!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I own a TIVO HD and it 's setup to grab all of my favorite shows .
I use KMTTG to pull the video off , VideoRedo to to strip commercials , and I am working on figuring out ways to best compress this down from HD to a good looking SD .
Trying for the 350meg an hour size I can get from torrents.Here 's the killer .
Video comes off my TIVO at about 1meg a second and 8Gig files take time .
Then I get to encode , this takes a little while but I 'm using an overclocked I7 @ 4.2ghz - it FLIES .
I have n't quite automated this but it 's not faroff - I just need to get the encoding profile nailed down .
Sounds good right ?
Last night while I was tinkering with encoding profiles and getitng pretty frustrated I had managed to get the RSS feed for uTorrent working and it had pulled up the SAME shows I was recording as being available for download .
After spending HOURS frustrated playing with this I downloaded the torrents .
They took about 6-15mins apiece !
Talk about frustrating !
If I can better automate my processing off the TIVO I 'll be pretty happy but it sure is way easier downloading !
I 'd like to be a little more legit but damn it 's much more work .
The DVD and BD files I 've got nailed down , I do n't ever download movies.So what do I store and watch this with ?
I use unRAID for storage .
ALL of my DVD \ BDs are ripped and stored as well as my MP3 on a server that holds a bit over 8TB and growing .
My second server holds my backups , misc files , and my TV shows - it 's about 8TB too .
With the latest software upgrade to unRAID it 's WAAAY faster too .
That 's the storage end..Viewing is even easier .
I use an ASROCK 330 dual core ATOM box .
It supports VDPAU under Ubuntu and I use XBMC to view the content .
Streaming audio stations , pictures , and all of my stored video .
I 've not really tried BOXEE much , it 's a fork of XBMC .
So is Plex .
All of them work well I 'm sure , XBMC updates their code in SVN constantly and it just keeps getting better .
I get 5.1 surround sound via HDMI and I can play high bitrate video without dropped frames thanks to the VDPAU code.The ASROCK consumes little power , the unRAID storage spins down drives when they are n't being used , my desktop probably uses more power than all of them combined !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I own a TIVO HD and it's setup to grab all of my favorite shows.
I use KMTTG to pull the video off, VideoRedo to to strip commercials, and I am working on figuring out ways to best compress this down from HD to a good looking SD.
Trying for the 350meg an hour size I can get from torrents.Here's the killer.
Video comes off my TIVO at about 1meg a second and 8Gig files take time.
Then I get to encode, this takes a little while but I'm using an overclocked I7 @4.2ghz - it FLIES.
I haven't quite automated this but it's not faroff - I just need to get the encoding profile nailed down.
Sounds good right?
Last night while I was tinkering with encoding profiles and getitng pretty frustrated I had managed to get the RSS feed for uTorrent working and it had pulled up the SAME shows I was recording as being available for download.
After spending HOURS frustrated playing with this I downloaded the torrents.
They took about 6-15mins apiece!
Talk about frustrating!
If I can better automate my processing off the TIVO I'll be pretty happy but it sure is way easier downloading!
I'd like to be a little more legit but damn it's much more work.
The DVD and BD files I've got nailed down, I don't ever download movies.So what do I store and watch this with?
I use unRAID for storage.
ALL of my DVD\BDs are ripped and stored as well as my MP3 on a server that holds a bit over 8TB and growing.
My second server holds my backups, misc files, and my TV shows - it's about 8TB too.
With the latest software upgrade to unRAID it's WAAAY faster too.
That's the storage end..Viewing is even easier.
I use an ASROCK 330 dual core ATOM box.
It supports VDPAU under Ubuntu and I use XBMC to view the content.
Streaming audio stations, pictures, and all of my stored video.
I've not really tried BOXEE much, it's a fork of XBMC.
So is Plex.
All of them work well I'm sure, XBMC updates their code in SVN constantly and it just keeps getting better.
I get 5.1 surround sound via HDMI and I can play high bitrate video without dropped frames thanks to the VDPAU code.The ASROCK consumes little power, the unRAID storage spins down drives when they aren't being used, my desktop probably uses more power than all of them combined!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30096314</id>
	<title>Re:Sports and Crappy Slow Internet</title>
	<author>MtViewGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1258200120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry, but I'm not ditching cable TV for the Internet for two reasons:</p><p>1) Real cable TV can transmit a large number of real HDTV channels at 1080i or 720p resolution with only very occasional issues with stuttering and loss of signal. I've never seen it work well at resolutions beyond 480p on Internet Protocol TV transmissions unless you have a Verizon FIOS fiber optic or Comcast cable Internet subscription with its above 10 mbps sustained download speeds.</p><p>2) Because ISP's are imposing download caps, you can forget about downloading TV shows at high resolution through an Internet connection if you want to download a lot of shows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , but I 'm not ditching cable TV for the Internet for two reasons : 1 ) Real cable TV can transmit a large number of real HDTV channels at 1080i or 720p resolution with only very occasional issues with stuttering and loss of signal .
I 've never seen it work well at resolutions beyond 480p on Internet Protocol TV transmissions unless you have a Verizon FIOS fiber optic or Comcast cable Internet subscription with its above 10 mbps sustained download speeds.2 ) Because ISP 's are imposing download caps , you can forget about downloading TV shows at high resolution through an Internet connection if you want to download a lot of shows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, but I'm not ditching cable TV for the Internet for two reasons:1) Real cable TV can transmit a large number of real HDTV channels at 1080i or 720p resolution with only very occasional issues with stuttering and loss of signal.
I've never seen it work well at resolutions beyond 480p on Internet Protocol TV transmissions unless you have a Verizon FIOS fiber optic or Comcast cable Internet subscription with its above 10 mbps sustained download speeds.2) Because ISP's are imposing download caps, you can forget about downloading TV shows at high resolution through an Internet connection if you want to download a lot of shows.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094464</id>
	<title>Not all 1080p's are created equal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258126380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if they put a checkmark next to "1080p", that doesn't mean that you get a certain quality.  The bitrate and codec and encoding matter.  There could be something that is technically 1080p but they may have compressed the living daylights out of the quality.  Don't expect Blu-ray quality.  Heck, don't even expect good upscaled standard DVD quality.  And surround sound with a good audio bitrate?  Don't count on it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if they put a checkmark next to " 1080p " , that does n't mean that you get a certain quality .
The bitrate and codec and encoding matter .
There could be something that is technically 1080p but they may have compressed the living daylights out of the quality .
Do n't expect Blu-ray quality .
Heck , do n't even expect good upscaled standard DVD quality .
And surround sound with a good audio bitrate ?
Do n't count on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if they put a checkmark next to "1080p", that doesn't mean that you get a certain quality.
The bitrate and codec and encoding matter.
There could be something that is technically 1080p but they may have compressed the living daylights out of the quality.
Don't expect Blu-ray quality.
Heck, don't even expect good upscaled standard DVD quality.
And surround sound with a good audio bitrate?
Don't count on it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30096414</id>
	<title>Re:Was the internet meant for this?</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1258201920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not sure what the creators of the Internet wanted, but the Web was subverted when people started installing clients with no associated server.  Every machine on the Web was intended to be both and some of the early browsers combined this functionality, providing both a server, HTML editor, and browser in the same app.  Opera seems to be the only company interested in reversing this trend.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure what the creators of the Internet wanted , but the Web was subverted when people started installing clients with no associated server .
Every machine on the Web was intended to be both and some of the early browsers combined this functionality , providing both a server , HTML editor , and browser in the same app .
Opera seems to be the only company interested in reversing this trend .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure what the creators of the Internet wanted, but the Web was subverted when people started installing clients with no associated server.
Every machine on the Web was intended to be both and some of the early browsers combined this functionality, providing both a server, HTML editor, and browser in the same app.
Opera seems to be the only company interested in reversing this trend.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093982</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094328</id>
	<title>Re:Playstation 3</title>
	<author>coaxial</author>
	<datestamp>1258124880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's your setup?  Do you dual boot into linux or what?  I've been thinking about a PS3 since it seems to do almost everything I want.  Hulu is blocked I know, but I believe you can transcode video, store it on an external drive, and then play that.  If only it had a torrent client and a transcoder, it would be perfect.</p><p>The sad thing is, linux is good because it handles most codecs and you can ignore drm with it (big win), but it always seems like getting 1080p and 7.1 surround out, and blue ray playing is iffy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's your setup ?
Do you dual boot into linux or what ?
I 've been thinking about a PS3 since it seems to do almost everything I want .
Hulu is blocked I know , but I believe you can transcode video , store it on an external drive , and then play that .
If only it had a torrent client and a transcoder , it would be perfect.The sad thing is , linux is good because it handles most codecs and you can ignore drm with it ( big win ) , but it always seems like getting 1080p and 7.1 surround out , and blue ray playing is iffy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's your setup?
Do you dual boot into linux or what?
I've been thinking about a PS3 since it seems to do almost everything I want.
Hulu is blocked I know, but I believe you can transcode video, store it on an external drive, and then play that.
If only it had a torrent client and a transcoder, it would be perfect.The sad thing is, linux is good because it handles most codecs and you can ignore drm with it (big win), but it always seems like getting 1080p and 7.1 surround out, and blue ray playing is iffy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094234</id>
	<title>I support your efforts to lower my cable bill...</title>
	<author>cfa22</author>
	<datestamp>1258123620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...too bad my cable company is also my ISP.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...too bad my cable company is also my ISP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...too bad my cable company is also my ISP.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30095196</id>
	<title>Barrier to entry is still high</title>
	<author>SlappyBastard</author>
	<datestamp>1258135980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To do it right, you need:  OTA, Hulu, Netflix, Boxee and uTorrent.</p><p>While for the average geek that's a nothing proposition, for the average mom that's like taking an engine and rebuilding the carburetor, alternator and transmission plus machining the heads.</p><p>No manufacturer is going to build all of that into a single box.  Can you ever see Sony doing much more than heavily pimping Blu-Ray?  It's just too many competing interests.</p><p>That's why your average media center geek builds their own.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To do it right , you need : OTA , Hulu , Netflix , Boxee and uTorrent.While for the average geek that 's a nothing proposition , for the average mom that 's like taking an engine and rebuilding the carburetor , alternator and transmission plus machining the heads.No manufacturer is going to build all of that into a single box .
Can you ever see Sony doing much more than heavily pimping Blu-Ray ?
It 's just too many competing interests.That 's why your average media center geek builds their own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To do it right, you need:  OTA, Hulu, Netflix, Boxee and uTorrent.While for the average geek that's a nothing proposition, for the average mom that's like taking an engine and rebuilding the carburetor, alternator and transmission plus machining the heads.No manufacturer is going to build all of that into a single box.
Can you ever see Sony doing much more than heavily pimping Blu-Ray?
It's just too many competing interests.That's why your average media center geek builds their own.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30115654</id>
	<title>Easier?</title>
	<author>KiwiCanuck</author>
	<datestamp>1258388400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Step 1: buy computer with DVI video card (can you buy one without DVI?) and 5.1 sound card. Step 2: connect sound card and video card to receiver (AUX in). In reciver menu select AUX in. That was hard!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Step 1 : buy computer with DVI video card ( can you buy one without DVI ?
) and 5.1 sound card .
Step 2 : connect sound card and video card to receiver ( AUX in ) .
In reciver menu select AUX in .
That was hard !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Step 1: buy computer with DVI video card (can you buy one without DVI?
) and 5.1 sound card.
Step 2: connect sound card and video card to receiver (AUX in).
In reciver menu select AUX in.
That was hard!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094052</id>
	<title>Already canceled mine...</title>
	<author>krovisser</author>
	<datestamp>1258121760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I cancelled mine not too long ago. We just weren't using it all that much (me and the gf). We have a home server with Mediatomb, and she's got abc.com, and our <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQhlmJTMzw" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">homemade antenna</a> [youtube.com].</p><p>I spent just over 30 minutes "cancelling" the cable service. I was on hold for about 28 of those minutes. Don't tell me they don't do that on purpose... grrrr</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I cancelled mine not too long ago .
We just were n't using it all that much ( me and the gf ) .
We have a home server with Mediatomb , and she 's got abc.com , and our homemade antenna [ youtube.com ] .I spent just over 30 minutes " cancelling " the cable service .
I was on hold for about 28 of those minutes .
Do n't tell me they do n't do that on purpose... grrrr</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I cancelled mine not too long ago.
We just weren't using it all that much (me and the gf).
We have a home server with Mediatomb, and she's got abc.com, and our homemade antenna [youtube.com].I spent just over 30 minutes "cancelling" the cable service.
I was on hold for about 28 of those minutes.
Don't tell me they don't do that on purpose... grrrr</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094336</id>
	<title>Ready for Prime Time?</title>
	<author>physburn</author>
	<datestamp>1258124940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't think this is ready for prime time yet, while digital terestrially TV
offers real time high definition TV for your set or wall screen, the computer
(if the home has one), still sits in the bedroom and office. Bandwidth
is usually low enough that you have to predownload programs before
you watch them. When the BBC rolled out they Iplayer a custom
player for all BBC programmes, ISP went nuts, complaining about
the huge bandwidth increase. In fact the Iplayer repeat programmes
while popular weren't so popular as to deluge broadband connections.
I doubt Internet TV will be popular for quite a while, maybe creaping
up in popularity slowly and being mainstream in the 2020s, but thats
just my guess.
<p>
---
</p><p>
<a href="http://www.feeddistiller.com/blogs/Interactive\%20Television/feed.html" title="feeddistiller.com">Interactive Television</a> [feeddistiller.com] @ <a href="http://www.feeddistiller.com/" title="feeddistiller.com">Feed Distiller</a> [feeddistiller.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think this is ready for prime time yet , while digital terestrially TV offers real time high definition TV for your set or wall screen , the computer ( if the home has one ) , still sits in the bedroom and office .
Bandwidth is usually low enough that you have to predownload programs before you watch them .
When the BBC rolled out they Iplayer a custom player for all BBC programmes , ISP went nuts , complaining about the huge bandwidth increase .
In fact the Iplayer repeat programmes while popular were n't so popular as to deluge broadband connections .
I doubt Internet TV will be popular for quite a while , maybe creaping up in popularity slowly and being mainstream in the 2020s , but thats just my guess .
--- Interactive Television [ feeddistiller.com ] @ Feed Distiller [ feeddistiller.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think this is ready for prime time yet, while digital terestrially TV
offers real time high definition TV for your set or wall screen, the computer
(if the home has one), still sits in the bedroom and office.
Bandwidth
is usually low enough that you have to predownload programs before
you watch them.
When the BBC rolled out they Iplayer a custom
player for all BBC programmes, ISP went nuts, complaining about
the huge bandwidth increase.
In fact the Iplayer repeat programmes
while popular weren't so popular as to deluge broadband connections.
I doubt Internet TV will be popular for quite a while, maybe creaping
up in popularity slowly and being mainstream in the 2020s, but thats
just my guess.
---

Interactive Television [feeddistiller.com] @ Feed Distiller [feeddistiller.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094158</id>
	<title>Re:Is it live, or is it Memorex</title>
	<author>Seumas</author>
	<datestamp>1258122960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Last I heard, the average person watches an astonishing eight hours of television per day. Switching to entertainment on the internet to replace cable won't happen until data caps are lifted. Let's say people don't even have to watch HD content. Just regular digital/standard content. And let us say you have a family of four. Or are a few roommates sharing a place. That's an average of 32 hours of streaming video content per day or almost 700 hours of content per month. Not counting all the other bandwidth suckers you have going on like radio, gaming, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Last I heard , the average person watches an astonishing eight hours of television per day .
Switching to entertainment on the internet to replace cable wo n't happen until data caps are lifted .
Let 's say people do n't even have to watch HD content .
Just regular digital/standard content .
And let us say you have a family of four .
Or are a few roommates sharing a place .
That 's an average of 32 hours of streaming video content per day or almost 700 hours of content per month .
Not counting all the other bandwidth suckers you have going on like radio , gaming , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last I heard, the average person watches an astonishing eight hours of television per day.
Switching to entertainment on the internet to replace cable won't happen until data caps are lifted.
Let's say people don't even have to watch HD content.
Just regular digital/standard content.
And let us say you have a family of four.
Or are a few roommates sharing a place.
That's an average of 32 hours of streaming video content per day or almost 700 hours of content per month.
Not counting all the other bandwidth suckers you have going on like radio, gaming, etc.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30096592</id>
	<title>Re:Deaf</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1258204620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>iPlayer includes subtitles (and some content with sign-language overlays), so there's no reason why other services couldn't do the same...</htmltext>
<tokenext>iPlayer includes subtitles ( and some content with sign-language overlays ) , so there 's no reason why other services could n't do the same.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iPlayer includes subtitles (and some content with sign-language overlays), so there's no reason why other services couldn't do the same...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094120</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30096842</id>
	<title>Youtube stutters for me and everyone I know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258208520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>at the lowest quality.  I'm guessing their 1080p will be not be a replacement for cable TV anytime soon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>at the lowest quality .
I 'm guessing their 1080p will be not be a replacement for cable TV anytime soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>at the lowest quality.
I'm guessing their 1080p will be not be a replacement for cable TV anytime soon.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30096670</id>
	<title>Re:I've canceled mine</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258206000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OTA DTV is very good for major sporting events, local news, and PBS.  It's highly dependent on your location relative to the broadcast towers and your willingness to install a roof antenna.  From personal experience, 5-10 miles from the tower, with a 2' coathanger antenna or a boosted commercial antenna works pretty well, except in storms.  Or unless you're fond of leaving your computer case open.  Much further than that, and you either need a roof antenna (or a 2nd, 3rd floor room) or should be prepared to have periodic dropped audio and video frames.  DTV degrades much, much less gracefully than analog.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OTA DTV is very good for major sporting events , local news , and PBS .
It 's highly dependent on your location relative to the broadcast towers and your willingness to install a roof antenna .
From personal experience , 5-10 miles from the tower , with a 2 ' coathanger antenna or a boosted commercial antenna works pretty well , except in storms .
Or unless you 're fond of leaving your computer case open .
Much further than that , and you either need a roof antenna ( or a 2nd , 3rd floor room ) or should be prepared to have periodic dropped audio and video frames .
DTV degrades much , much less gracefully than analog .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OTA DTV is very good for major sporting events, local news, and PBS.
It's highly dependent on your location relative to the broadcast towers and your willingness to install a roof antenna.
From personal experience, 5-10 miles from the tower, with a 2' coathanger antenna or a boosted commercial antenna works pretty well, except in storms.
Or unless you're fond of leaving your computer case open.
Much further than that, and you either need a roof antenna (or a 2nd, 3rd floor room) or should be prepared to have periodic dropped audio and video frames.
DTV degrades much, much less gracefully than analog.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093894</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094448</id>
	<title>Re:Won't last forever</title>
	<author>VocationalZero</author>
	<datestamp>1258126080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Free shows and movies online won't last forever, though.</p></div><p>IME, when something free dies on the internet, two more just like it instantly spawn.The internet is the world's largest distribution and advertising medium and you would be a fool not to try and use it [for free], if only for market exposure.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>At some point, expect paywalls to appear, at least for 'premium content' or selected episodes of a season or whatever. Don't say I didn't warn you.</p></div><p>Whats wrong with 'premium content'? Doesn't that already exist  on every source of media, hell every facet of life anyway? The "paywalls" argument I've heard again and again over the past two decades and it still ranks among the lowest things I fear actually happening, right after that 2012 bs.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Free shows and movies online wo n't last forever , though.IME , when something free dies on the internet , two more just like it instantly spawn.The internet is the world 's largest distribution and advertising medium and you would be a fool not to try and use it [ for free ] , if only for market exposure.At some point , expect paywalls to appear , at least for 'premium content ' or selected episodes of a season or whatever .
Do n't say I did n't warn you.Whats wrong with 'premium content ' ?
Does n't that already exist on every source of media , hell every facet of life anyway ?
The " paywalls " argument I 've heard again and again over the past two decades and it still ranks among the lowest things I fear actually happening , right after that 2012 bs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Free shows and movies online won't last forever, though.IME, when something free dies on the internet, two more just like it instantly spawn.The internet is the world's largest distribution and advertising medium and you would be a fool not to try and use it [for free], if only for market exposure.At some point, expect paywalls to appear, at least for 'premium content' or selected episodes of a season or whatever.
Don't say I didn't warn you.Whats wrong with 'premium content'?
Doesn't that already exist  on every source of media, hell every facet of life anyway?
The "paywalls" argument I've heard again and again over the past two decades and it still ranks among the lowest things I fear actually happening, right after that 2012 bs.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094122</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30105324</id>
	<title>Re:Telecoms...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258296300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not true - I have Uverse internet, but no other Uverse service. Alot of AT&amp;T salespeople are not aware that this is possible, but you CAN have internet service, without anything else.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not true - I have Uverse internet , but no other Uverse service .
Alot of AT&amp;T salespeople are not aware that this is possible , but you CAN have internet service , without anything else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not true - I have Uverse internet, but no other Uverse service.
Alot of AT&amp;T salespeople are not aware that this is possible, but you CAN have internet service, without anything else.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094036</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094754</id>
	<title>It's called BitTorrent...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258129680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... and it was time to ditch cable a couple years ago.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... and it was time to ditch cable a couple years ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... and it was time to ditch cable a couple years ago.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30096398</id>
	<title>Time for internet TV?</title>
	<author>GNious</author>
	<datestamp>1258201620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30097470</id>
	<title>But</title>
	<author>AttillaTheNun</author>
	<datestamp>1258213800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I get my internet through my cable provider you insensitive clod!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I get my internet through my cable provider you insensitive clod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get my internet through my cable provider you insensitive clod!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30097968</id>
	<title>Re:Playstation 3</title>
	<author>Nursie</author>
	<datestamp>1258218300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, sorry to post that and then leave...</p><p>I did install linux on it but I've barely used that capability. It's a pretty capable media player without needing linux. You can put stuff onto an external drive if you want, either a USB flash drive or (what we do) you set up media sharing on another box and stream video over the network.</p><p>I have a headless linux server that does torrents. There's a program called "Mediatomb" that allows you to share media over UPnP. The PS3 just finds these servers on the local network and allows you to browse the shares. Windows (vista or 7) can share using media player and appear in the same way. It's pretty cool. Most stuff doesn't even need to be transcoded in any way. And if the network's being crap, as ours sometimes is, you can tell it to copy the video to its internal drive, then watch it locally.</p><p>I know a lot of folks dislike the PS3, but I love it. We use it as a media box more than a games machine now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , sorry to post that and then leave...I did install linux on it but I 've barely used that capability .
It 's a pretty capable media player without needing linux .
You can put stuff onto an external drive if you want , either a USB flash drive or ( what we do ) you set up media sharing on another box and stream video over the network.I have a headless linux server that does torrents .
There 's a program called " Mediatomb " that allows you to share media over UPnP .
The PS3 just finds these servers on the local network and allows you to browse the shares .
Windows ( vista or 7 ) can share using media player and appear in the same way .
It 's pretty cool .
Most stuff does n't even need to be transcoded in any way .
And if the network 's being crap , as ours sometimes is , you can tell it to copy the video to its internal drive , then watch it locally.I know a lot of folks dislike the PS3 , but I love it .
We use it as a media box more than a games machine now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, sorry to post that and then leave...I did install linux on it but I've barely used that capability.
It's a pretty capable media player without needing linux.
You can put stuff onto an external drive if you want, either a USB flash drive or (what we do) you set up media sharing on another box and stream video over the network.I have a headless linux server that does torrents.
There's a program called "Mediatomb" that allows you to share media over UPnP.
The PS3 just finds these servers on the local network and allows you to browse the shares.
Windows (vista or 7) can share using media player and appear in the same way.
It's pretty cool.
Most stuff doesn't even need to be transcoded in any way.
And if the network's being crap, as ours sometimes is, you can tell it to copy the video to its internal drive, then watch it locally.I know a lot of folks dislike the PS3, but I love it.
We use it as a media box more than a games machine now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094328</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093924</id>
	<title>Waytago, Dell!</title>
	<author>Ungrounded Lightning</author>
	<datestamp>1258120920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The inspiron uses a dual-core AMD chip.</p><p>Which means no Intel AMT security risks.</p><p>(Somebody wake me if AMD also does something as stupid as building "IT management" hooks into their chips to let your machine be remote-pwned without the OS having a say in it.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The inspiron uses a dual-core AMD chip.Which means no Intel AMT security risks .
( Somebody wake me if AMD also does something as stupid as building " IT management " hooks into their chips to let your machine be remote-pwned without the OS having a say in it .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The inspiron uses a dual-core AMD chip.Which means no Intel AMT security risks.
(Somebody wake me if AMD also does something as stupid as building "IT management" hooks into their chips to let your machine be remote-pwned without the OS having a say in it.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094038</id>
	<title>Re:Waytago, Dell!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258121700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where's the Ubuntu option, though? Only options I saw were Vista or 7...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where 's the Ubuntu option , though ?
Only options I saw were Vista or 7.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where's the Ubuntu option, though?
Only options I saw were Vista or 7...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30093924</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094202</id>
	<title>Re:1080p Youtube?</title>
	<author>gEvil (beta)</author>
	<datestamp>1258123320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>How many mbps is needed for that? Right now I get 50mbps downstream via Verizon FiOS. I thought you need at least 60mbps for that?
</i> <br>
<br>
1080p Blu-rays with losslessly compressed audio average ~30Mbps. Highly compressed 1080p with lossy 5.1 audio can easily be done at DVD bitrates (7-8Mbps) and still look fairly decent. You will notice some banding and minor blocking, but it generally won't be so bad as to be distracting.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How many mbps is needed for that ?
Right now I get 50mbps downstream via Verizon FiOS .
I thought you need at least 60mbps for that ?
1080p Blu-rays with losslessly compressed audio average ~ 30Mbps .
Highly compressed 1080p with lossy 5.1 audio can easily be done at DVD bitrates ( 7-8Mbps ) and still look fairly decent .
You will notice some banding and minor blocking , but it generally wo n't be so bad as to be distracting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many mbps is needed for that?
Right now I get 50mbps downstream via Verizon FiOS.
I thought you need at least 60mbps for that?
1080p Blu-rays with losslessly compressed audio average ~30Mbps.
Highly compressed 1080p with lossy 5.1 audio can easily be done at DVD bitrates (7-8Mbps) and still look fairly decent.
You will notice some banding and minor blocking, but it generally won't be so bad as to be distracting.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30101954</id>
	<title>Re:Is it live, or is it Memorex</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258202040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Last I heard, the average person watches an astonishing eight hours of television per day.</p></div></blockquote><p>While it would be silly for me to deny you heard that, it isn't true.  A quick search shows the correct figure is about half that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Last I heard , the average person watches an astonishing eight hours of television per day.While it would be silly for me to deny you heard that , it is n't true .
A quick search shows the correct figure is about half that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last I heard, the average person watches an astonishing eight hours of television per day.While it would be silly for me to deny you heard that, it isn't true.
A quick search shows the correct figure is about half that.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094556</id>
	<title>Not that easy.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258127460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Guess who I pay for my internet connection? I don't even have a choice. Many areas are monopolized.</p><p>I love Netflix on my xbox. Just finished the second season of Dexter. And Law and Order reruns are better without commercials and in order.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Guess who I pay for my internet connection ?
I do n't even have a choice .
Many areas are monopolized.I love Netflix on my xbox .
Just finished the second season of Dexter .
And Law and Order reruns are better without commercials and in order .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Guess who I pay for my internet connection?
I don't even have a choice.
Many areas are monopolized.I love Netflix on my xbox.
Just finished the second season of Dexter.
And Law and Order reruns are better without commercials and in order.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094772</id>
	<title>for USA eyes only?</title>
	<author>pbjones</author>
	<datestamp>1258129980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Didn't take long to see several 'for USA eyes only' messages on links via Clicker.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't take long to see several 'for USA eyes only ' messages on links via Clicker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't take long to see several 'for USA eyes only' messages on links via Clicker.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_13_2329235.30094738</id>
	<title>Re:Using cable to distribute video</title>
	<author>WidgetGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1258129500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's an even better deal if you get the $99 Roku box.  Plug it in and it jumps right on your WiFi network.  Also hooks up to your router or modem with an RJ45 cable.  Connects directly to your TV via composite or HDMI.  I've had mine with my $15/mo Netflix subscription for over a year now.  Roku also carries MLB (Major League Baseball) and Amazon's Video on Demand (rip off prices, but they do carry more recent DVDs and TV programs than does Netflix's Watch Instantly offering).
<br> <br>
The stuff from Netflix is free (no extra charge) with your standard, snail-mail subscription (as low as $9/mo).  NO COMMERCIALS.  You can even watch current-season TV programs (they are automatically added to your Netflix instant queue every week on the day after they air via cable TV).  I watched CSI, Numb3rs and Dexter like that last year.  And, what you put in your queue (by selecting them on-line at the Netflix site) STAYS in your queue until YOU delete it.  Even the TV episodes.   You select the Amazon and MLB stuff directly via the Roku box (you rent the Amazon stuff for a limited time, another reason to avoid them -- don't know about MLB since I've never used it).  You can watch the Netflix content over and over again.  Did I mention NO COMMERCIALS.
<br> <br>
The Roku box is rock solid and its software is maintained and upgraded automatically over the 'net.  Excellent customer service (although you probably won't ever need to use it 'cause the unit is so reliable and easy to set up).  Simple remote control and a coverflow-like queue viewer (with descriptions of each DVD or TV episode).  Top notch engineering and UI design all the way around.  You will completely forget you are watching streaming video.  It's really that good.
<br> <br>
I changed my $100/mo cable TV/Internet subscription to just Internet over two years ago (RoadRunner was the only ISP offering 15Mbps down around here).  I'm Pandora (also no commercials) and Netflix/Roku equipped now.  Life is good.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's an even better deal if you get the $ 99 Roku box .
Plug it in and it jumps right on your WiFi network .
Also hooks up to your router or modem with an RJ45 cable .
Connects directly to your TV via composite or HDMI .
I 've had mine with my $ 15/mo Netflix subscription for over a year now .
Roku also carries MLB ( Major League Baseball ) and Amazon 's Video on Demand ( rip off prices , but they do carry more recent DVDs and TV programs than does Netflix 's Watch Instantly offering ) .
The stuff from Netflix is free ( no extra charge ) with your standard , snail-mail subscription ( as low as $ 9/mo ) .
NO COMMERCIALS .
You can even watch current-season TV programs ( they are automatically added to your Netflix instant queue every week on the day after they air via cable TV ) .
I watched CSI , Numb3rs and Dexter like that last year .
And , what you put in your queue ( by selecting them on-line at the Netflix site ) STAYS in your queue until YOU delete it .
Even the TV episodes .
You select the Amazon and MLB stuff directly via the Roku box ( you rent the Amazon stuff for a limited time , another reason to avoid them -- do n't know about MLB since I 've never used it ) .
You can watch the Netflix content over and over again .
Did I mention NO COMMERCIALS .
The Roku box is rock solid and its software is maintained and upgraded automatically over the 'net .
Excellent customer service ( although you probably wo n't ever need to use it 'cause the unit is so reliable and easy to set up ) .
Simple remote control and a coverflow-like queue viewer ( with descriptions of each DVD or TV episode ) .
Top notch engineering and UI design all the way around .
You will completely forget you are watching streaming video .
It 's really that good .
I changed my $ 100/mo cable TV/Internet subscription to just Internet over two years ago ( RoadRunner was the only ISP offering 15Mbps down around here ) .
I 'm Pandora ( also no commercials ) and Netflix/Roku equipped now .
Life is good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's an even better deal if you get the $99 Roku box.
Plug it in and it jumps right on your WiFi network.
Also hooks up to your router or modem with an RJ45 cable.
Connects directly to your TV via composite or HDMI.
I've had mine with my $15/mo Netflix subscription for over a year now.
Roku also carries MLB (Major League Baseball) and Amazon's Video on Demand (rip off prices, but they do carry more recent DVDs and TV programs than does Netflix's Watch Instantly offering).
The stuff from Netflix is free (no extra charge) with your standard, snail-mail subscription (as low as $9/mo).
NO COMMERCIALS.
You can even watch current-season TV programs (they are automatically added to your Netflix instant queue every week on the day after they air via cable TV).
I watched CSI, Numb3rs and Dexter like that last year.
And, what you put in your queue (by selecting them on-line at the Netflix site) STAYS in your queue until YOU delete it.
Even the TV episodes.
You select the Amazon and MLB stuff directly via the Roku box (you rent the Amazon stuff for a limited time, another reason to avoid them -- don't know about MLB since I've never used it).
You can watch the Netflix content over and over again.
Did I mention NO COMMERCIALS.
The Roku box is rock solid and its software is maintained and upgraded automatically over the 'net.
Excellent customer service (although you probably won't ever need to use it 'cause the unit is so reliable and easy to set up).
Simple remote control and a coverflow-like queue viewer (with descriptions of each DVD or TV episode).
Top notch engineering and UI design all the way around.
You will completely forget you are watching streaming video.
It's really that good.
I changed my $100/mo cable TV/Internet subscription to just Internet over two years ago (RoadRunner was the only ISP offering 15Mbps down around here).
I'm Pandora (also no commercials) and Netflix/Roku equipped now.
Life is good.</sentencetext>
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