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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_12_2025201</id>
	<title>MPAA Shuts Down Town's Municipal WiFi Over 1 Download</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1258015380000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>nam37 writes with this BoingBoing snippet <i>"The MPAA has successfully <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/12/mpaa-shuts-down-enti.html">shut down an entire town's municipal WiFi</a> because a single user was found to be downloading a copyrighted movie. Rather than being embarrassed by this gross example of collective punishment (a practice outlawed in the Geneva conventions) against Coshocton, OH, the MPAA's spokeslizard took the opportunity to cry poor (even though the studios are bringing in record box-office and aftermarket receipts)."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>nam37 writes with this BoingBoing snippet " The MPAA has successfully shut down an entire town 's municipal WiFi because a single user was found to be downloading a copyrighted movie .
Rather than being embarrassed by this gross example of collective punishment ( a practice outlawed in the Geneva conventions ) against Coshocton , OH , the MPAA 's spokeslizard took the opportunity to cry poor ( even though the studios are bringing in record box-office and aftermarket receipts ) .
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<sentencetext>nam37 writes with this BoingBoing snippet "The MPAA has successfully shut down an entire town's municipal WiFi because a single user was found to be downloading a copyrighted movie.
Rather than being embarrassed by this gross example of collective punishment (a practice outlawed in the Geneva conventions) against Coshocton, OH, the MPAA's spokeslizard took the opportunity to cry poor (even though the studios are bringing in record box-office and aftermarket receipts).
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078964</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>meerling</author>
	<datestamp>1258020540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>ianal - I think you're right, since ISPs are protected by safe harbour provisions, and the MPAA has to file lawsuits against individuals, even if it's a jane/john doe discovery thing. Of course, if they can't identify who did it, which the article seems to indicate, they can't sue anybody, but that never seems to stop them from baseless threats and bluster.<br><br>(Or for that matter, lack of accuracy doesn't slow those rabid vultures down either...)</htmltext>
<tokenext>ianal - I think you 're right , since ISPs are protected by safe harbour provisions , and the MPAA has to file lawsuits against individuals , even if it 's a jane/john doe discovery thing .
Of course , if they ca n't identify who did it , which the article seems to indicate , they ca n't sue anybody , but that never seems to stop them from baseless threats and bluster .
( Or for that matter , lack of accuracy does n't slow those rabid vultures down either... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ianal - I think you're right, since ISPs are protected by safe harbour provisions, and the MPAA has to file lawsuits against individuals, even if it's a jane/john doe discovery thing.
Of course, if they can't identify who did it, which the article seems to indicate, they can't sue anybody, but that never seems to stop them from baseless threats and bluster.
(Or for that matter, lack of accuracy doesn't slow those rabid vultures down either...)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078882</id>
	<title>Help Me Understand ....</title>
	<author>quangdog</author>
	<datestamp>1258020240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't drink Alcohol, and have never spent time in bars while others around me get plastered - so I'm honestly curious:
<br> <br>
What responsibility or culpability does the bar owner / bar tender have if someone leaves their bar totally drunk and kills someone on their way home?
<br> <br>I know that bars and such are private entities, but I fail to understand how the municipality would think that they are responsible for the actions taken by those using their goods or services.  I say let the MPAA come after them - prove culpability or get off my lawn.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't drink Alcohol , and have never spent time in bars while others around me get plastered - so I 'm honestly curious : What responsibility or culpability does the bar owner / bar tender have if someone leaves their bar totally drunk and kills someone on their way home ?
I know that bars and such are private entities , but I fail to understand how the municipality would think that they are responsible for the actions taken by those using their goods or services .
I say let the MPAA come after them - prove culpability or get off my lawn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't drink Alcohol, and have never spent time in bars while others around me get plastered - so I'm honestly curious:
 
What responsibility or culpability does the bar owner / bar tender have if someone leaves their bar totally drunk and kills someone on their way home?
I know that bars and such are private entities, but I fail to understand how the municipality would think that they are responsible for the actions taken by those using their goods or services.
I say let the MPAA come after them - prove culpability or get off my lawn.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079266</id>
	<title>Re:Help Me Understand ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258021680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, related to someone who owns a bar - I know for a fact that bars ARE IN FACT held responsible, at least in washington state, when they over serve a person, and they go out and cause some sort of dangerous consequence due to them being so inebriated.</p><p>So yes, when a business provides the opportunity for something bad to happen, and doesn't at least attempt to mitigate the damages, they will be held responsible.</p><p>Bars get fined heavily for excessive serving.</p><p>Obviously, these guys didn't want to get fined, jailed or whatever else, for excessive free wireless networking<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , related to someone who owns a bar - I know for a fact that bars ARE IN FACT held responsible , at least in washington state , when they over serve a person , and they go out and cause some sort of dangerous consequence due to them being so inebriated.So yes , when a business provides the opportunity for something bad to happen , and does n't at least attempt to mitigate the damages , they will be held responsible.Bars get fined heavily for excessive serving.Obviously , these guys did n't want to get fined , jailed or whatever else , for excessive free wireless networking : P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, related to someone who owns a bar - I know for a fact that bars ARE IN FACT held responsible, at least in washington state, when they over serve a person, and they go out and cause some sort of dangerous consequence due to them being so inebriated.So yes, when a business provides the opportunity for something bad to happen, and doesn't at least attempt to mitigate the damages, they will be held responsible.Bars get fined heavily for excessive serving.Obviously, these guys didn't want to get fined, jailed or whatever else, for excessive free wireless networking :P</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30086250</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>lanes</author>
	<datestamp>1258125360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cory Doctorow being sensationalist over a mundane "civil liberties" story? Well I never!

Next you'll be trying to tell me that Mike Arrington is anything but calm and levelheaded.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cory Doctorow being sensationalist over a mundane " civil liberties " story ?
Well I never !
Next you 'll be trying to tell me that Mike Arrington is anything but calm and levelheaded .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cory Doctorow being sensationalist over a mundane "civil liberties" story?
Well I never!
Next you'll be trying to tell me that Mike Arrington is anything but calm and levelheaded.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30083898</id>
	<title>stop them...</title>
	<author>twoHats</author>
	<datestamp>1258052400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Somebody needs to stop these creeps before they destroy the internet in the never ending quest for the almight buck.<br> <br>

This kind of blatantly outside the law corporate behavior should make us take a closer look at the less whining greed-heads (Some coal companies, among others, come to mind...).  The fact that some judge says it's legal is BS.  We all know the difference between right and wrong, and are going to have to start making our own decisions on obvious issues.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Somebody needs to stop these creeps before they destroy the internet in the never ending quest for the almight buck .
This kind of blatantly outside the law corporate behavior should make us take a closer look at the less whining greed-heads ( Some coal companies , among others , come to mind... ) .
The fact that some judge says it 's legal is BS .
We all know the difference between right and wrong , and are going to have to start making our own decisions on obvious issues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somebody needs to stop these creeps before they destroy the internet in the never ending quest for the almight buck.
This kind of blatantly outside the law corporate behavior should make us take a closer look at the less whining greed-heads (Some coal companies, among others, come to mind...).
The fact that some judge says it's legal is BS.
We all know the difference between right and wrong, and are going to have to start making our own decisions on obvious issues.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30080278</id>
	<title>Re:actually, we are at war.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258024920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I didn't know Virginia Tech provided email accounts for the mentally retarded.  How very civic minded of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't know Virginia Tech provided email accounts for the mentally retarded .
How very civic minded of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't know Virginia Tech provided email accounts for the mentally retarded.
How very civic minded of them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078566</id>
	<title>Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>Saxerman</author>
	<datestamp>1258019100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, talk about misrepresenting the facts.  I hate the way the MPAA is using copyright law as much as the next digital rights activist.  But, for the record, the MPAA didn't take down the network.  They just sent their usual infringement notice to the ISP, who then forwarded it on to Coshocton County.  The county then made the decision to shut down the wifi service, they weren't ordered to by any judge or MPAA executive/lawyer/asshat.</p><p><a href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&amp;art\_aid=117273" title="mediapost.com">http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&amp;art\_aid=117273</a> [mediapost.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , talk about misrepresenting the facts .
I hate the way the MPAA is using copyright law as much as the next digital rights activist .
But , for the record , the MPAA did n't take down the network .
They just sent their usual infringement notice to the ISP , who then forwarded it on to Coshocton County .
The county then made the decision to shut down the wifi service , they were n't ordered to by any judge or MPAA executive/lawyer/asshat.http : //www.mediapost.com/publications/ ? fa = Articles.showArticle&amp;art \ _aid = 117273 [ mediapost.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, talk about misrepresenting the facts.
I hate the way the MPAA is using copyright law as much as the next digital rights activist.
But, for the record, the MPAA didn't take down the network.
They just sent their usual infringement notice to the ISP, who then forwarded it on to Coshocton County.
The county then made the decision to shut down the wifi service, they weren't ordered to by any judge or MPAA executive/lawyer/asshat.http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&amp;art\_aid=117273 [mediapost.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30085378</id>
	<title>Re:In a sense, yes, but that's hyperbole.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258118220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Watch your filthy mouth!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Watch your filthy mouth !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Watch your filthy mouth!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079900</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1258023660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Last I checked, there is not a war going on in Coshocton, OH </i></p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Well actually the US is a country at war. Fighting TWO wars, as a matter of fact. I know the point you're trying to make - that part of the Conventions was mostly about rounding up people in a town and shooting them for being Belgian (I don't see a problem with that but never mind), not using that well known grade-school teacher tactic of "if someone doesn't tell me who did this, the whole class is getting detention!" but still...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Last I checked , there is not a war going on in Coshocton , OH       Well actually the US is a country at war .
Fighting TWO wars , as a matter of fact .
I know the point you 're trying to make - that part of the Conventions was mostly about rounding up people in a town and shooting them for being Belgian ( I do n't see a problem with that but never mind ) , not using that well known grade-school teacher tactic of " if someone does n't tell me who did this , the whole class is getting detention !
" but still.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last I checked, there is not a war going on in Coshocton, OH 
      Well actually the US is a country at war.
Fighting TWO wars, as a matter of fact.
I know the point you're trying to make - that part of the Conventions was mostly about rounding up people in a town and shooting them for being Belgian (I don't see a problem with that but never mind), not using that well known grade-school teacher tactic of "if someone doesn't tell me who did this, the whole class is getting detention!
" but still...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30083850</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258051740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>just get a BoingBoing account and mention something about the great work Violet Blue is doing</p></div><p>Not knowing anything about either BoingBoing or Violet Blue, and wikipedia being extremely sparse on information regarding <i>what</i> went on between them, would you happen to have more information about why Violet Blue is a divisive issue for BoingBoing?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>just get a BoingBoing account and mention something about the great work Violet Blue is doingNot knowing anything about either BoingBoing or Violet Blue , and wikipedia being extremely sparse on information regarding what went on between them , would you happen to have more information about why Violet Blue is a divisive issue for BoingBoing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>just get a BoingBoing account and mention something about the great work Violet Blue is doingNot knowing anything about either BoingBoing or Violet Blue, and wikipedia being extremely sparse on information regarding what went on between them, would you happen to have more information about why Violet Blue is a divisive issue for BoingBoing?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079736</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258023120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whether it's one block or a whole town, don't you agree these kinds of tactics are just designed to pick low-hanging fruit? They're not going after pirates, they're marking easy targets who can't argue a lawsuit against them.</p><p>When they bust some guy running a server farm's worth of uploads from his home, and prove it, then maybe I'll support actions like this.</p><p>This was just publicity hounding and witch hunting. It's all about trying to set a precedent so they can control media distribution instead of creating a model that provides consumers with affordable access to what they want (and would be willing to pay for, under a reasonable distribution model). It's why they want to disable our televisions' ports, too, so they don't have to provide an appropriately-price on-demand content model, and contiue gouging us.</p><p>First it's an individual user. Then it's one city block. MPAA and RIAA have got the chalk and pickaxes, and are climbing the slippery slope one elevation at a time. The article is right to be alarmist, because it just gets more aggressive and increasingly more stupid each time the industries file motions like this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whether it 's one block or a whole town , do n't you agree these kinds of tactics are just designed to pick low-hanging fruit ?
They 're not going after pirates , they 're marking easy targets who ca n't argue a lawsuit against them.When they bust some guy running a server farm 's worth of uploads from his home , and prove it , then maybe I 'll support actions like this.This was just publicity hounding and witch hunting .
It 's all about trying to set a precedent so they can control media distribution instead of creating a model that provides consumers with affordable access to what they want ( and would be willing to pay for , under a reasonable distribution model ) .
It 's why they want to disable our televisions ' ports , too , so they do n't have to provide an appropriately-price on-demand content model , and contiue gouging us.First it 's an individual user .
Then it 's one city block .
MPAA and RIAA have got the chalk and pickaxes , and are climbing the slippery slope one elevation at a time .
The article is right to be alarmist , because it just gets more aggressive and increasingly more stupid each time the industries file motions like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whether it's one block or a whole town, don't you agree these kinds of tactics are just designed to pick low-hanging fruit?
They're not going after pirates, they're marking easy targets who can't argue a lawsuit against them.When they bust some guy running a server farm's worth of uploads from his home, and prove it, then maybe I'll support actions like this.This was just publicity hounding and witch hunting.
It's all about trying to set a precedent so they can control media distribution instead of creating a model that provides consumers with affordable access to what they want (and would be willing to pay for, under a reasonable distribution model).
It's why they want to disable our televisions' ports, too, so they don't have to provide an appropriately-price on-demand content model, and contiue gouging us.First it's an individual user.
Then it's one city block.
MPAA and RIAA have got the chalk and pickaxes, and are climbing the slippery slope one elevation at a time.
The article is right to be alarmist, because it just gets more aggressive and increasingly more stupid each time the industries file motions like this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30085612</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>fudgefactor7</author>
	<datestamp>1258120620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Should not the response been "Prove it."? Then DMCA takes over and they have to follow all that mess, meanwhile the wifi connection would remain operable until final discovery and remediation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Should not the response been " Prove it. " ?
Then DMCA takes over and they have to follow all that mess , meanwhile the wifi connection would remain operable until final discovery and remediation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Should not the response been "Prove it."?
Then DMCA takes over and they have to follow all that mess, meanwhile the wifi connection would remain operable until final discovery and remediation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078792</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>tacarat</author>
	<datestamp>1258019940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's what the common carrier principle is for.  You wouldn't be liable.  From a tech standpoint, though, you might want to know what is dragging down the bandwidth in a specific area.  It might be indicating a problem other than a heavy file download.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what the common carrier principle is for .
You would n't be liable .
From a tech standpoint , though , you might want to know what is dragging down the bandwidth in a specific area .
It might be indicating a problem other than a heavy file download .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's what the common carrier principle is for.
You wouldn't be liable.
From a tech standpoint, though, you might want to know what is dragging down the bandwidth in a specific area.
It might be indicating a problem other than a heavy file download.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30083676</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258049700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>When governments fear corporations, we have gone through full circle though capitalism and can arrive on the other side of communism.</p></div><p>Communism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism<br>Corporatism leading to Fascism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism#Fascism\_and\_corporatism</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When governments fear corporations , we have gone through full circle though capitalism and can arrive on the other side of communism.Communism : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CommunismCorporatism leading to Fascism : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism # Fascism \ _and \ _corporatism</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When governments fear corporations, we have gone through full circle though capitalism and can arrive on the other side of communism.Communism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CommunismCorporatism leading to Fascism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism#Fascism\_and\_corporatism
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079870</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>jd</author>
	<datestamp>1258023540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bear in mind that politicos can get voted out very easily, so tend to be nervous types when accused of something that smacks of scandal. (Widespread fraud is one thing, but accusations in the press of sponsoring pirates or spending tax dollars in bringing down Hollywood... No sane politician would take that kind of risk.)</p><p>Also bear in mind that most politicians are technically ignorant and are unlikely to know the difference between aiding and abetting in an electronic crime versus being a common carrier.</p><p>Finally, you need to also consider that these places are full of backstabbers, some likely in the pay of ISPs that would be competing with the municipal system. (If the public sector is corrupt, it's the private sector that is corrupting it.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bear in mind that politicos can get voted out very easily , so tend to be nervous types when accused of something that smacks of scandal .
( Widespread fraud is one thing , but accusations in the press of sponsoring pirates or spending tax dollars in bringing down Hollywood... No sane politician would take that kind of risk .
) Also bear in mind that most politicians are technically ignorant and are unlikely to know the difference between aiding and abetting in an electronic crime versus being a common carrier.Finally , you need to also consider that these places are full of backstabbers , some likely in the pay of ISPs that would be competing with the municipal system .
( If the public sector is corrupt , it 's the private sector that is corrupting it .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bear in mind that politicos can get voted out very easily, so tend to be nervous types when accused of something that smacks of scandal.
(Widespread fraud is one thing, but accusations in the press of sponsoring pirates or spending tax dollars in bringing down Hollywood... No sane politician would take that kind of risk.
)Also bear in mind that most politicians are technically ignorant and are unlikely to know the difference between aiding and abetting in an electronic crime versus being a common carrier.Finally, you need to also consider that these places are full of backstabbers, some likely in the pay of ISPs that would be competing with the municipal system.
(If the public sector is corrupt, it's the private sector that is corrupting it.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079166</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258021260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, and I bet if someone is caught speeding on a county road, they'll shut down all of the roads too.  After all, speeding is illegal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , and I bet if someone is caught speeding on a county road , they 'll shut down all of the roads too .
After all , speeding is illegal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, and I bet if someone is caught speeding on a county road, they'll shut down all of the roads too.
After all, speeding is illegal.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078688</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078648</id>
	<title>Reciprocity</title>
	<author>iamacat</author>
	<datestamp>1258019340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let the town pass an ordinance that requires explanation of the facts and recommendation of content from less onerous publishers in every place MPAA affiliated content is sold or performed. Imagine a local movie theater showing foreign and indy films and recommending one when someone asks for a ticket to Transformers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let the town pass an ordinance that requires explanation of the facts and recommendation of content from less onerous publishers in every place MPAA affiliated content is sold or performed .
Imagine a local movie theater showing foreign and indy films and recommending one when someone asks for a ticket to Transformers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let the town pass an ordinance that requires explanation of the facts and recommendation of content from less onerous publishers in every place MPAA affiliated content is sold or performed.
Imagine a local movie theater showing foreign and indy films and recommending one when someone asks for a ticket to Transformers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079482</id>
	<title>Re:Help Me Understand ....</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1258022340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Depends on the state, google dram shop laws.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Depends on the state , google dram shop laws .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depends on the state, google dram shop laws.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078882</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078984</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>shentino</author>
	<datestamp>1258020660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As the entire issue is completely internal to the United States, the international community has no jurisdiction whatsoever.</p><p>A pity though that the only folks who DO have jurisdiction have already been bought.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As the entire issue is completely internal to the United States , the international community has no jurisdiction whatsoever.A pity though that the only folks who DO have jurisdiction have already been bought .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As the entire issue is completely internal to the United States, the international community has no jurisdiction whatsoever.A pity though that the only folks who DO have jurisdiction have already been bought.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078768</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30088644</id>
	<title>hhhmmm</title>
	<author>Meest</author>
	<datestamp>1258136880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think this village just found their idiot!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think this village just found their idiot !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think this village just found their idiot!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30081334</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258029780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uuum, you apparently don't no a thing about psychology. No problem, I did think all my life, that humans are not the weak spineless obeying losers that they are.<br>Most humans <em>will</em> with a high likeliness, obey whatever you tell them to do. Even torture and murder a person.<br>As long as they think it must be right, because someone who dominates them with his strong (view of) reality, thinks it's right.</p><p>So it is an entirely expected strategy for intelligence people and similar professional spin doctors, manipulators, etc, to just draw others into their reality, and thereby <em>make</em> them act in their will. There is an entire industry for that out there. Social engineering. The hackers of the human mind. Grown from a fusion of psychology, con men, marketing firms, etc.</p><p>What do you think how many average people quickly break under the pressure of "devastating consequences" for them (that never really happen, buy hey...)?<br>County government workers are no different. I bet I could get them to shut down the power system, if I took it really serious, and would create really scary "high official" letters, etc.<br>I know someone who had genuine federal watermarked paper that the federal police used in Germany. And he was able to forge the signature of the director of the federal police. So to put it into perspective for Americans: It was like he could forge letters from the FBI director that were indistinguishable from genuine ones. Which he used to remove its nurses and get him out of the madhouse. (Luckily he now is in a closed facility where he can't even make a call. Which is also sad, because I prefer to actually heal people.)</p><p>But it shows how powerful social engineering is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uuum , you apparently do n't no a thing about psychology .
No problem , I did think all my life , that humans are not the weak spineless obeying losers that they are.Most humans will with a high likeliness , obey whatever you tell them to do .
Even torture and murder a person.As long as they think it must be right , because someone who dominates them with his strong ( view of ) reality , thinks it 's right.So it is an entirely expected strategy for intelligence people and similar professional spin doctors , manipulators , etc , to just draw others into their reality , and thereby make them act in their will .
There is an entire industry for that out there .
Social engineering .
The hackers of the human mind .
Grown from a fusion of psychology , con men , marketing firms , etc.What do you think how many average people quickly break under the pressure of " devastating consequences " for them ( that never really happen , buy hey... ) ? County government workers are no different .
I bet I could get them to shut down the power system , if I took it really serious , and would create really scary " high official " letters , etc.I know someone who had genuine federal watermarked paper that the federal police used in Germany .
And he was able to forge the signature of the director of the federal police .
So to put it into perspective for Americans : It was like he could forge letters from the FBI director that were indistinguishable from genuine ones .
Which he used to remove its nurses and get him out of the madhouse .
( Luckily he now is in a closed facility where he ca n't even make a call .
Which is also sad , because I prefer to actually heal people .
) But it shows how powerful social engineering is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uuum, you apparently don't no a thing about psychology.
No problem, I did think all my life, that humans are not the weak spineless obeying losers that they are.Most humans will with a high likeliness, obey whatever you tell them to do.
Even torture and murder a person.As long as they think it must be right, because someone who dominates them with his strong (view of) reality, thinks it's right.So it is an entirely expected strategy for intelligence people and similar professional spin doctors, manipulators, etc, to just draw others into their reality, and thereby make them act in their will.
There is an entire industry for that out there.
Social engineering.
The hackers of the human mind.
Grown from a fusion of psychology, con men, marketing firms, etc.What do you think how many average people quickly break under the pressure of "devastating consequences" for them (that never really happen, buy hey...)?County government workers are no different.
I bet I could get them to shut down the power system, if I took it really serious, and would create really scary "high official" letters, etc.I know someone who had genuine federal watermarked paper that the federal police used in Germany.
And he was able to forge the signature of the director of the federal police.
So to put it into perspective for Americans: It was like he could forge letters from the FBI director that were indistinguishable from genuine ones.
Which he used to remove its nurses and get him out of the madhouse.
(Luckily he now is in a closed facility where he can't even make a call.
Which is also sad, because I prefer to actually heal people.
)But it shows how powerful social engineering is.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078566</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30080858</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258027380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>FOX News doesn't distort the facts for their agenda as much as this guy has. (Well, not all the time, anyway).</p></div><p>Ooooooh. Now that's a low blow.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>FOX News does n't distort the facts for their agenda as much as this guy has .
( Well , not all the time , anyway ) .Ooooooh .
Now that 's a low blow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FOX News doesn't distort the facts for their agenda as much as this guy has.
(Well, not all the time, anyway).Ooooooh.
Now that's a low blow.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079334</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078564</id>
	<title>DON'T FUCK WITH THE MAN, MAN !!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258019100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He will just make you wish you were a ludite !!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He will just make you wish you were a ludite !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He will just make you wish you were a ludite !
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079404</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>Moryath</author>
	<datestamp>1258022100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>By your logic we should shut down all the roads and confiscate all the cars. After all, some people use them to smuggle drugs...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By your logic we should shut down all the roads and confiscate all the cars .
After all , some people use them to smuggle drugs.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By your logic we should shut down all the roads and confiscate all the cars.
After all, some people use them to smuggle drugs...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078688</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078788</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>radtea</author>
	<datestamp>1258019880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Wow, talk about misrepresenting the facts</i></p><p>Well, it is boingboing after all, which is the 'Net's equivalent of Orwell's "Two Minutes Hate":  the editors post inane stories in the most inflammatory language possible, the crowd all goes apeshit for a short time, and then moves on to the next thing, having done nothing, accomplished nothing, and learned nothing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , talk about misrepresenting the factsWell , it is boingboing after all , which is the 'Net 's equivalent of Orwell 's " Two Minutes Hate " : the editors post inane stories in the most inflammatory language possible , the crowd all goes apeshit for a short time , and then moves on to the next thing , having done nothing , accomplished nothing , and learned nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, talk about misrepresenting the factsWell, it is boingboing after all, which is the 'Net's equivalent of Orwell's "Two Minutes Hate":  the editors post inane stories in the most inflammatory language possible, the crowd all goes apeshit for a short time, and then moves on to the next thing, having done nothing, accomplished nothing, and learned nothing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078566</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079472</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>icebraining</author>
	<datestamp>1258022280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, companies are known to fight for their clients...</p><p>Maybe we need TPB owners to run our public Wifi networks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , companies are known to fight for their clients...Maybe we need TPB owners to run our public Wifi networks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, companies are known to fight for their clients...Maybe we need TPB owners to run our public Wifi networks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078950</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079418</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258022160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So they threatened someone into shutting it off for them.  What is the diff?  Sort of like the school bully grabbing your hand and playing "Stop Hitting Yourself".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So they threatened someone into shutting it off for them .
What is the diff ?
Sort of like the school bully grabbing your hand and playing " Stop Hitting Yourself " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they threatened someone into shutting it off for them.
What is the diff?
Sort of like the school bully grabbing your hand and playing "Stop Hitting Yourself".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078566</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079108</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>91degrees</author>
	<datestamp>1258021140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, technically, yes, assuming there's something legal under US law that's banned in the Geneva convention.  In practice, they tend not to have the ability to do this.<br> <br>
Incidentally - the rule works two ways.  We can treat the MPAA worse than an invading army treats civilians in exactly the same way.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , technically , yes , assuming there 's something legal under US law that 's banned in the Geneva convention .
In practice , they tend not to have the ability to do this .
Incidentally - the rule works two ways .
We can treat the MPAA worse than an invading army treats civilians in exactly the same way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, technically, yes, assuming there's something legal under US law that's banned in the Geneva convention.
In practice, they tend not to have the ability to do this.
Incidentally - the rule works two ways.
We can treat the MPAA worse than an invading army treats civilians in exactly the same way.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078768</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30080196</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>DBCubix</author>
	<datestamp>1258024620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Coshocton County is mostly Amish.  So I guess the bishop caught wind of wi-fi's, laptops and generator using Amish and put his foot down shutting down this devil-laden network!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Coshocton County is mostly Amish .
So I guess the bishop caught wind of wi-fi 's , laptops and generator using Amish and put his foot down shutting down this devil-laden network !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Coshocton County is mostly Amish.
So I guess the bishop caught wind of wi-fi's, laptops and generator using Amish and put his foot down shutting down this devil-laden network!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078534</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079206</id>
	<title>Re:Help Me Understand ....</title>
	<author>SensitiveMale</author>
	<datestamp>1258021440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"What responsibility or culpability does the bar owner / bar tender have if someone leaves their bar totally drunk and kills someone on their way home? "</p><p>The bar owner has money, assets, property, and a business that can be seized if sued.  Usually the drunk doesn't.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" What responsibility or culpability does the bar owner / bar tender have if someone leaves their bar totally drunk and kills someone on their way home ?
" The bar owner has money , assets , property , and a business that can be seized if sued .
Usually the drunk does n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"What responsibility or culpability does the bar owner / bar tender have if someone leaves their bar totally drunk and kills someone on their way home?
"The bar owner has money, assets, property, and a business that can be seized if sued.
Usually the drunk doesn't.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078882</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30085456</id>
	<title>Communist wifi nowisit?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258118940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What do you need it for besides stealing movies by circumventing installation of a Walmart like the rest of the Free World(tm)?</p><p>-Beve Stalmer</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What do you need it for besides stealing movies by circumventing installation of a Walmart like the rest of the Free World ( tm ) ? -Beve Stalmer</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What do you need it for besides stealing movies by circumventing installation of a Walmart like the rest of the Free World(tm)?-Beve Stalmer</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30080076</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078876</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>tacarat</author>
	<datestamp>1258020240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So civilians are entitled to less protection during times of peace?  Granted, bringing up the Geneva Convention in this isn't fully appropriate for the topic, but it's probably the only cited example they could think of.  Group punishment isn't allowed in the US legal system when it concerns normal citizens, is it?  I've never heard of a case where the Judge arrested or penalized an entire store of people only because one of them was a shoplifter. <br> <br>

"Don't do the time if you didn't do the crime".  I think the TV cop phrase is "if you're innocent , then you have nothing to worry about".</htmltext>
<tokenext>So civilians are entitled to less protection during times of peace ?
Granted , bringing up the Geneva Convention in this is n't fully appropriate for the topic , but it 's probably the only cited example they could think of .
Group punishment is n't allowed in the US legal system when it concerns normal citizens , is it ?
I 've never heard of a case where the Judge arrested or penalized an entire store of people only because one of them was a shoplifter .
" Do n't do the time if you did n't do the crime " .
I think the TV cop phrase is " if you 're innocent , then you have nothing to worry about " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So civilians are entitled to less protection during times of peace?
Granted, bringing up the Geneva Convention in this isn't fully appropriate for the topic, but it's probably the only cited example they could think of.
Group punishment isn't allowed in the US legal system when it concerns normal citizens, is it?
I've never heard of a case where the Judge arrested or penalized an entire store of people only because one of them was a shoplifter.
"Don't do the time if you didn't do the crime".
I think the TV cop phrase is "if you're innocent , then you have nothing to worry about".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30089766</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258141080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dude, you're funny!</p><p>that is all</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , you 're funny ! that is all</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, you're funny!that is all</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30080076</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078754</id>
	<title>Non-story</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258019760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another troll by Cory.  The WiFi was using a single IP address and NAT.  The one connection was shutdown, that's all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another troll by Cory .
The WiFi was using a single IP address and NAT .
The one connection was shutdown , that 's all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another troll by Cory.
The WiFi was using a single IP address and NAT.
The one connection was shutdown, that's all.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30084178</id>
	<title>This is sicking</title>
	<author>Criton</author>
	<datestamp>1258142460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The MPAA's greed seems to know no end and this does violate every law on the books.
Seriously sometimes I wish Hollywood would get taken out a 3000ton meteor or the Russians deorbit something funny onto it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The MPAA 's greed seems to know no end and this does violate every law on the books .
Seriously sometimes I wish Hollywood would get taken out a 3000ton meteor or the Russians deorbit something funny onto it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The MPAA's greed seems to know no end and this does violate every law on the books.
Seriously sometimes I wish Hollywood would get taken out a 3000ton meteor or the Russians deorbit something funny onto it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30080050</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>PhxBlue</author>
	<datestamp>1258024140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But where are the front lines on the Global War on Terror(TM)? No, I don't agree with that reasoning, but given the spurious shit that our government has done in the name of national security, don't be surprised to see that argument come from a government spokesperson.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But where are the front lines on the Global War on Terror ( TM ) ?
No , I do n't agree with that reasoning , but given the spurious shit that our government has done in the name of national security , do n't be surprised to see that argument come from a government spokesperson .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But where are the front lines on the Global War on Terror(TM)?
No, I don't agree with that reasoning, but given the spurious shit that our government has done in the name of national security, don't be surprised to see that argument come from a government spokesperson.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078790</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258019940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>War on Terror, War on Drugs, War on Filesharing, War on common sense.
<br>
At least one of these if going on right now!</htmltext>
<tokenext>War on Terror , War on Drugs , War on Filesharing , War on common sense .
At least one of these if going on right now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>War on Terror, War on Drugs, War on Filesharing, War on common sense.
At least one of these if going on right now!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30083946</id>
	<title>I do this all the time!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258052940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do all my illegal downloading from dunkin donuts.</p><p>Gotta go, need a refill.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do all my illegal downloading from dunkin donuts.Got ta go , need a refill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do all my illegal downloading from dunkin donuts.Gotta go, need a refill.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078534</id>
	<title>There must be something more</title>
	<author>transparen</author>
	<datestamp>1258018980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I find it hard to believe that they would have shut down the Wifi simply because of a *possible* lawsuit....  Maybe they didn't really want the WiFi after all?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I find it hard to believe that they would have shut down the Wifi simply because of a * possible * lawsuit.... Maybe they did n't really want the WiFi after all ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find it hard to believe that they would have shut down the Wifi simply because of a *possible* lawsuit....  Maybe they didn't really want the WiFi after all?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30080976</id>
	<title>Re:Help Me Understand ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258027860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The bar owner has strict liability.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict\_liability" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Strict Liability</a> [wikipedia.org].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The bar owner has strict liability.Strict Liability [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The bar owner has strict liability.Strict Liability [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078882</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30080854</id>
	<title>In other news...</title>
	<author>radpole</author>
	<datestamp>1258027320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bank robbers used the local highway to getaway this morning. The highway has been closed until further notice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bank robbers used the local highway to getaway this morning .
The highway has been closed until further notice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bank robbers used the local highway to getaway this morning.
The highway has been closed until further notice.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30081932</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1258033380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Last I checked, there is not a war going on in Coshocton, OH </i></p><p>You forgot the war 'gaint 'Terra</p><p><i>and the MPAA is not a sovereign authority (as much as it might like to be).</i></p><p>They're working on it. Stay tuned.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Last I checked , there is not a war going on in Coshocton , OH You forgot the war 'gaint 'Terraand the MPAA is not a sovereign authority ( as much as it might like to be ) .They 're working on it .
Stay tuned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last I checked, there is not a war going on in Coshocton, OH You forgot the war 'gaint 'Terraand the MPAA is not a sovereign authority (as much as it might like to be).They're working on it.
Stay tuned.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30081538</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>gad\_zuki!</author>
	<datestamp>1258030860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly. I cant tolerate the site. Its just self-righteous muckraking.  The MPAA lawsuits are bad enough. Why do these sites, slashdot included, misrepresent facts, overblow everything, and dont bother following up with corrections? Hmm, ad impressions?  Theres your real corporate conspiracy. Perhaps we can throw kdawson and cory doctorow down the well we end up throwing the MPAA down.  One can dream...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
I cant tolerate the site .
Its just self-righteous muckraking .
The MPAA lawsuits are bad enough .
Why do these sites , slashdot included , misrepresent facts , overblow everything , and dont bother following up with corrections ?
Hmm , ad impressions ?
Theres your real corporate conspiracy .
Perhaps we can throw kdawson and cory doctorow down the well we end up throwing the MPAA down .
One can dream.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
I cant tolerate the site.
Its just self-righteous muckraking.
The MPAA lawsuits are bad enough.
Why do these sites, slashdot included, misrepresent facts, overblow everything, and dont bother following up with corrections?
Hmm, ad impressions?
Theres your real corporate conspiracy.
Perhaps we can throw kdawson and cory doctorow down the well we end up throwing the MPAA down.
One can dream...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078788</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30083450</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>hedwards</author>
	<datestamp>1258046220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I must have missed when the government declared martial law and all the massive public fire fights on civilians.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I must have missed when the government declared martial law and all the massive public fire fights on civilians .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I must have missed when the government declared martial law and all the massive public fire fights on civilians.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078812</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078974</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>lymond01</author>
	<datestamp>1258020600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Last I checked, there is not a war going on in Coshocton, OH </i></p><p>You think not?  We are all, every one of us, not spectators, oh no, but soldiers in the war for freedom!  Be it in the high desert of Afghanistan, the cities of Iraq, or the wi-fi spectrum of Coshocton, Ohio, we will fight the enemies of freedom wherever they raise their malignant heads.  We will fight them on the internets; we will fight them in the courtrooms; we shall never surrender!</p><p>This post brought to you by a ghost named Churchill.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Last I checked , there is not a war going on in Coshocton , OH You think not ?
We are all , every one of us , not spectators , oh no , but soldiers in the war for freedom !
Be it in the high desert of Afghanistan , the cities of Iraq , or the wi-fi spectrum of Coshocton , Ohio , we will fight the enemies of freedom wherever they raise their malignant heads .
We will fight them on the internets ; we will fight them in the courtrooms ; we shall never surrender ! This post brought to you by a ghost named Churchill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last I checked, there is not a war going on in Coshocton, OH You think not?
We are all, every one of us, not spectators, oh no, but soldiers in the war for freedom!
Be it in the high desert of Afghanistan, the cities of Iraq, or the wi-fi spectrum of Coshocton, Ohio, we will fight the enemies of freedom wherever they raise their malignant heads.
We will fight them on the internets; we will fight them in the courtrooms; we shall never surrender!This post brought to you by a ghost named Churchill.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079752</id>
	<title>Re:Reciprocity</title>
	<author>h4rm0ny</author>
	<datestamp>1258023180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>
I don't want a lecture from my local government on what I should be watching every time I buy a ticket to something I do want to see. Local government wastes enough tax money without taking it upon themselves to start cultural policing. If I want to watch a film, it's not wise for anyone to lecture me about it. I expect you would feel the same if you thought about it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't want a lecture from my local government on what I should be watching every time I buy a ticket to something I do want to see .
Local government wastes enough tax money without taking it upon themselves to start cultural policing .
If I want to watch a film , it 's not wise for anyone to lecture me about it .
I expect you would feel the same if you thought about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I don't want a lecture from my local government on what I should be watching every time I buy a ticket to something I do want to see.
Local government wastes enough tax money without taking it upon themselves to start cultural policing.
If I want to watch a film, it's not wise for anyone to lecture me about it.
I expect you would feel the same if you thought about it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078648</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30085964</id>
	<title>Enough MPAA stuff already</title>
	<author>Strych9</author>
	<datestamp>1258123680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry folks,</p><p>We really should stop posting all the MPAA crap on this site.  No one is doing anything about it.  Where are the protests?  Where are the letters being written to your elected official?</p><p>If you, that means You reading this, are not willing to do anything about it then I'm tired of hearing about it.</p><p>When we were going to get a DMCA like act about to be passed we crashed the Xmas party of the Minister in charge to get our point out.<br>So either put up and fight back or shut up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry folks,We really should stop posting all the MPAA crap on this site .
No one is doing anything about it .
Where are the protests ?
Where are the letters being written to your elected official ? If you , that means You reading this , are not willing to do anything about it then I 'm tired of hearing about it.When we were going to get a DMCA like act about to be passed we crashed the Xmas party of the Minister in charge to get our point out.So either put up and fight back or shut up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry folks,We really should stop posting all the MPAA crap on this site.
No one is doing anything about it.
Where are the protests?
Where are the letters being written to your elected official?If you, that means You reading this, are not willing to do anything about it then I'm tired of hearing about it.When we were going to get a DMCA like act about to be passed we crashed the Xmas party of the Minister in charge to get our point out.So either put up and fight back or shut up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078950</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>Adrian Lopez</author>
	<datestamp>1258020540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is part of the reason why I think government-funded Internet access is generally a bad idea. Governments are too trigger-happy with regard to avoiding liability, and are otherwise too censor-prone to properly deal with the significant responsibility of administering the local population's Internet connection.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is part of the reason why I think government-funded Internet access is generally a bad idea .
Governments are too trigger-happy with regard to avoiding liability , and are otherwise too censor-prone to properly deal with the significant responsibility of administering the local population 's Internet connection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is part of the reason why I think government-funded Internet access is generally a bad idea.
Governments are too trigger-happy with regard to avoiding liability, and are otherwise too censor-prone to properly deal with the significant responsibility of administering the local population's Internet connection.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078566</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079276</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>Anonymous Cowpat</author>
	<datestamp>1258021680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>well, yes and no. Normally during a war, all bets are off - if you can't keep, in peacetime, to the minimum standards expected during wartime, you're doing something wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>well , yes and no .
Normally during a war , all bets are off - if you ca n't keep , in peacetime , to the minimum standards expected during wartime , you 're doing something wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>well, yes and no.
Normally during a war, all bets are off - if you can't keep, in peacetime, to the minimum standards expected during wartime, you're doing something wrong.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30081158</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1258028820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then you must have lived under a rock, on the other side of the moon (<a href="http://www.ironsky.net/" title="ironsky.net" rel="nofollow">prehaps near the Nazi base?</a> [ironsky.net]* ^^).</p><p>I not only expected things like these. I wouldn't be surprised if they sacrificed a live child by splitting it in half on one of their drug trip orgies.<br>At least not, if they can keep up with the music industry executives I or got told about by people who met them.</p><p>\_\_\_<br>* On afterthought: "I can haz Godwin award fer sneekyness?" ^^</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then you must have lived under a rock , on the other side of the moon ( prehaps near the Nazi base ?
[ ironsky.net ] * ^ ^ ) .I not only expected things like these .
I would n't be surprised if they sacrificed a live child by splitting it in half on one of their drug trip orgies.At least not , if they can keep up with the music industry executives I or got told about by people who met them. \ _ \ _ \ _ * On afterthought : " I can haz Godwin award fer sneekyness ?
" ^ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then you must have lived under a rock, on the other side of the moon (prehaps near the Nazi base?
[ironsky.net]* ^^).I not only expected things like these.
I wouldn't be surprised if they sacrificed a live child by splitting it in half on one of their drug trip orgies.At least not, if they can keep up with the music industry executives I or got told about by people who met them.\_\_\_* On afterthought: "I can haz Godwin award fer sneekyness?
" ^^</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079742</id>
	<title>Re:Help Me Understand ....</title>
	<author>bws111</author>
	<datestamp>1258023180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Look up dram shop laws.  If you over serve someone, and they go out and kill or injure someone, you are liable.  Depending on what state you live in even a private individual has this liability if the overserve someone at their house.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Look up dram shop laws .
If you over serve someone , and they go out and kill or injure someone , you are liable .
Depending on what state you live in even a private individual has this liability if the overserve someone at their house .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look up dram shop laws.
If you over serve someone, and they go out and kill or injure someone, you are liable.
Depending on what state you live in even a private individual has this liability if the overserve someone at their house.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078882</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078762</id>
	<title>vendors/festivals</title>
	<author>jDeepbeep</author>
	<datestamp>1258019820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From TFA<br>
<div class="quote"><p><tt>During festival times, vendors find it a convenience to check the status of credit cards being used to make purchases, LaVigne said.</tt></p> </div><p>
It's details like this that reinforce my decision long ago to classify festivals &amp; street fairs as cash-only events, and never use cards when attending them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA During festival times , vendors find it a convenience to check the status of credit cards being used to make purchases , LaVigne said .
It 's details like this that reinforce my decision long ago to classify festivals &amp; street fairs as cash-only events , and never use cards when attending them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA
During festival times, vendors find it a convenience to check the status of credit cards being used to make purchases, LaVigne said.
It's details like this that reinforce my decision long ago to classify festivals &amp; street fairs as cash-only events, and never use cards when attending them.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078776</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>alecto</author>
	<datestamp>1258019880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why wouldn't they? The people using it that way have probably been hearing that we are "at war" on <i>something</i> since they were children: the "War on Poverty,"  the "War on (some) Drugs," the "War on Terror."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would n't they ?
The people using it that way have probably been hearing that we are " at war " on something since they were children : the " War on Poverty , " the " War on ( some ) Drugs , " the " War on Terror .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why wouldn't they?
The people using it that way have probably been hearing that we are "at war" on something since they were children: the "War on Poverty,"  the "War on (some) Drugs," the "War on Terror.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30085530</id>
	<title>When the Jews came. . .</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258119780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For one little backwater impoverished and broke town and shining example of American Imperial achievement, I said nothing.</p><p>blah blah blah</p><p>Keep sucking Jew dick and letting them spy on you and run the banks that counterfeit the money (fractional banking) out of thin air that you worship like good little slave puppets. Their paid mouthpieces will cry "thief!" while the Jews steal everything from you including your very essence and soul while you drool and stare at overpriced shiny Chinese made cheap garbage on Jew store shelves. Fucking idiots, it's already too late for you to even do anything about it but lube your own sphincter up and bend over while putting on your dunce caps.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For one little backwater impoverished and broke town and shining example of American Imperial achievement , I said nothing.blah blah blahKeep sucking Jew dick and letting them spy on you and run the banks that counterfeit the money ( fractional banking ) out of thin air that you worship like good little slave puppets .
Their paid mouthpieces will cry " thief !
" while the Jews steal everything from you including your very essence and soul while you drool and stare at overpriced shiny Chinese made cheap garbage on Jew store shelves .
Fucking idiots , it 's already too late for you to even do anything about it but lube your own sphincter up and bend over while putting on your dunce caps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For one little backwater impoverished and broke town and shining example of American Imperial achievement, I said nothing.blah blah blahKeep sucking Jew dick and letting them spy on you and run the banks that counterfeit the money (fractional banking) out of thin air that you worship like good little slave puppets.
Their paid mouthpieces will cry "thief!
" while the Jews steal everything from you including your very essence and soul while you drool and stare at overpriced shiny Chinese made cheap garbage on Jew store shelves.
Fucking idiots, it's already too late for you to even do anything about it but lube your own sphincter up and bend over while putting on your dunce caps.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30081410</id>
	<title>Shove it back in their faces!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258030140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Organize a mass movie download day!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Organize a mass movie download day !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Organize a mass movie download day!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078752</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258019760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Hate to be pedantic.. but the fourth Geneva Convention (which OP was referring to) sets forth protection for civilians in <b>times of war</b>. Last I checked, there is not a war going on in Coshocton, OH and the MPAA is not a sovereign authority (as much as it might like to be). I always cringe when people reference the Geneva Conventions like this in such an overly dramatic and misrepresentation way.</p></div><p>Cmon, its the shameless self promoter and huckster, Cory Doctrow who referenced the Geneva Convention. Would you expect anything less?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hate to be pedantic.. but the fourth Geneva Convention ( which OP was referring to ) sets forth protection for civilians in times of war .
Last I checked , there is not a war going on in Coshocton , OH and the MPAA is not a sovereign authority ( as much as it might like to be ) .
I always cringe when people reference the Geneva Conventions like this in such an overly dramatic and misrepresentation way.Cmon , its the shameless self promoter and huckster , Cory Doctrow who referenced the Geneva Convention .
Would you expect anything less ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hate to be pedantic.. but the fourth Geneva Convention (which OP was referring to) sets forth protection for civilians in times of war.
Last I checked, there is not a war going on in Coshocton, OH and the MPAA is not a sovereign authority (as much as it might like to be).
I always cringe when people reference the Geneva Conventions like this in such an overly dramatic and misrepresentation way.Cmon, its the shameless self promoter and huckster, Cory Doctrow who referenced the Geneva Convention.
Would you expect anything less?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30085490</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258119300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then its not the Towns Wifi, its the block WiFi contracted by the Town</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then its not the Towns Wifi , its the block WiFi contracted by the Town</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then its not the Towns Wifi, its the block WiFi contracted by the Town</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079506</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078688</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1258019520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which I mean, given the circumstances - was probably the best course of action. If someone is doing something illegal on your public network, you better cut that off ASAP so that you aren't liable. And if the people clammer about how they don't have their internets, you can tell them that one of them ruined it for the rest of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which I mean , given the circumstances - was probably the best course of action .
If someone is doing something illegal on your public network , you better cut that off ASAP so that you are n't liable .
And if the people clammer about how they do n't have their internets , you can tell them that one of them ruined it for the rest of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which I mean, given the circumstances - was probably the best course of action.
If someone is doing something illegal on your public network, you better cut that off ASAP so that you aren't liable.
And if the people clammer about how they don't have their internets, you can tell them that one of them ruined it for the rest of them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30084480</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>h4rm0ny</author>
	<datestamp>1258104240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>
You've got me curious. I don't know much about BoingBoing. Who are the big sponsors that they dislike criticism of and I've heard of Violet Blue the porn star (she sounds quite entertaining, actually, what with the wicca and the "No Name" stuff), but I don't know if you're referring to her or the authoress that sued her for having the same name. Any chance you could spare Slashdot a few minutes to talk a bit more about these things?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 've got me curious .
I do n't know much about BoingBoing .
Who are the big sponsors that they dislike criticism of and I 've heard of Violet Blue the porn star ( she sounds quite entertaining , actually , what with the wicca and the " No Name " stuff ) , but I do n't know if you 're referring to her or the authoress that sued her for having the same name .
Any chance you could spare Slashdot a few minutes to talk a bit more about these things ?
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
You've got me curious.
I don't know much about BoingBoing.
Who are the big sponsors that they dislike criticism of and I've heard of Violet Blue the porn star (she sounds quite entertaining, actually, what with the wicca and the "No Name" stuff), but I don't know if you're referring to her or the authoress that sued her for having the same name.
Any chance you could spare Slashdot a few minutes to talk a bit more about these things?
:)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30081330</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30085052</id>
	<title>Do us all a favor, and please ignore Cory Doctorow</title>
	<author>kklein</author>
	<datestamp>1258113360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The man is a complete hack, and <i>frequently</i> exaggerates his headlines and summaries to the point of actual deceit. He makes any rational discussion of the pressing need to revamp copyright a descent into stupid name-calling.

</p><p>Can we please just all ignore him?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The man is a complete hack , and frequently exaggerates his headlines and summaries to the point of actual deceit .
He makes any rational discussion of the pressing need to revamp copyright a descent into stupid name-calling .
Can we please just all ignore him ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The man is a complete hack, and frequently exaggerates his headlines and summaries to the point of actual deceit.
He makes any rational discussion of the pressing need to revamp copyright a descent into stupid name-calling.
Can we please just all ignore him?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30082170</id>
	<title>Wonder what happens</title>
	<author>teknosapien</author>
	<datestamp>1258034820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When one of these town counsel persons/mayors/whatever elected official moves up to Congress or Senate. what if this has adversely affected 911 services for this municipality. would the MPAA then be held accountable for endangering the lives of thousands of innocent citizens ( i guess according to them no one is innocent)</htmltext>
<tokenext>When one of these town counsel persons/mayors/whatever elected official moves up to Congress or Senate .
what if this has adversely affected 911 services for this municipality .
would the MPAA then be held accountable for endangering the lives of thousands of innocent citizens ( i guess according to them no one is innocent )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When one of these town counsel persons/mayors/whatever elected official moves up to Congress or Senate.
what if this has adversely affected 911 services for this municipality.
would the MPAA then be held accountable for endangering the lives of thousands of innocent citizens ( i guess according to them no one is innocent)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30081176</id>
	<title>halloween came late this year</title>
	<author>JackSpratts</author>
	<datestamp>1258028940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>cory may be hyping the type, but even he missed the most chilling aspect of this issue. elected officials grappling with software expenses for blocking transfers on their network are now considering spreading the costs out beyond the little municipality and WATCHING THE ENTIRE COUNTY. <i>"Commissioners questioned whether the investment would be justified for the free service, but [IT director Mike] LaVigne said it could be put to use on the entire county system to monitor activity."'It would be beneficial to both realms,'he said."</i> </p><p>beneficial? now that's scary.</p><p> - js.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>cory may be hyping the type , but even he missed the most chilling aspect of this issue .
elected officials grappling with software expenses for blocking transfers on their network are now considering spreading the costs out beyond the little municipality and WATCHING THE ENTIRE COUNTY .
" Commissioners questioned whether the investment would be justified for the free service , but [ IT director Mike ] LaVigne said it could be put to use on the entire county system to monitor activity .
" 'It would be beneficial to both realms,'he said .
" beneficial ?
now that 's scary .
- js .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>cory may be hyping the type, but even he missed the most chilling aspect of this issue.
elected officials grappling with software expenses for blocking transfers on their network are now considering spreading the costs out beyond the little municipality and WATCHING THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
"Commissioners questioned whether the investment would be justified for the free service, but [IT director Mike] LaVigne said it could be put to use on the entire county system to monitor activity.
"'It would be beneficial to both realms,'he said.
" beneficial?
now that's scary.
- js.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30080804</id>
	<title>MPAA "success!"</title>
	<author>huwgently</author>
	<datestamp>1258027140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You keep using that word .
I do not think it means what you think it means .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You keep using that word.
I do not think it means what you think it means.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30085248</id>
	<title>Don't worry, you just got had by Cory Doctorow</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258116300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cory Doctorow is a fucking asshole who writes bullshit like this for notoriety. He also likes to think he's in control of the utter clusterfuck which is boingboing, and likes to call himself "Doctor O" and actually named his hair.</p><p>Yet we're discussing an article in a serious tone by this guy? You've been had by Cory's attention mongering skills. He's an opportunistic fuck and I can think of one time I could read one of his articles without feeling the need to smash my head against the desk. It's pure filth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cory Doctorow is a fucking asshole who writes bullshit like this for notoriety .
He also likes to think he 's in control of the utter clusterfuck which is boingboing , and likes to call himself " Doctor O " and actually named his hair.Yet we 're discussing an article in a serious tone by this guy ?
You 've been had by Cory 's attention mongering skills .
He 's an opportunistic fuck and I can think of one time I could read one of his articles without feeling the need to smash my head against the desk .
It 's pure filth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cory Doctorow is a fucking asshole who writes bullshit like this for notoriety.
He also likes to think he's in control of the utter clusterfuck which is boingboing, and likes to call himself "Doctor O" and actually named his hair.Yet we're discussing an article in a serious tone by this guy?
You've been had by Cory's attention mongering skills.
He's an opportunistic fuck and I can think of one time I could read one of his articles without feeling the need to smash my head against the desk.
It's pure filth.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079334</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>h4rm0ny</author>
	<datestamp>1258021920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>
Actually, it's more a case of something less. This is another Cory Doctorow nonsense-piece. What appears to have happened is that the town had a set up a single shared wifi network running from a single connection which they allowed anyone to use. The MPAA sent a letter saying that this connection was being used for downloading copyrighted material without permission and the Sheriff's office panicked and shut it down.
<br> <br>
FOX News doesn't distort the facts for their agenda as much as this guy has. (Well, not all the time, anyway).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , it 's more a case of something less .
This is another Cory Doctorow nonsense-piece .
What appears to have happened is that the town had a set up a single shared wifi network running from a single connection which they allowed anyone to use .
The MPAA sent a letter saying that this connection was being used for downloading copyrighted material without permission and the Sheriff 's office panicked and shut it down .
FOX News does n't distort the facts for their agenda as much as this guy has .
( Well , not all the time , anyway ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Actually, it's more a case of something less.
This is another Cory Doctorow nonsense-piece.
What appears to have happened is that the town had a set up a single shared wifi network running from a single connection which they allowed anyone to use.
The MPAA sent a letter saying that this connection was being used for downloading copyrighted material without permission and the Sheriff's office panicked and shut it down.
FOX News doesn't distort the facts for their agenda as much as this guy has.
(Well, not all the time, anyway).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30081330</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258029780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cory Doctroll strikes again.</p><p>By the way, if you ever want to see some SERIOUS censorship - just get a BoingBoing account and mention something about the great work Violet Blue is doing for the sex positive community these days.  Or mention anything at all negative about one of BB's sponsors.  You'll be shut down faster than Sarah Conner at a Terminator class reunion.</p><p>George Orwell wept - Jesus just laughed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cory Doctroll strikes again.By the way , if you ever want to see some SERIOUS censorship - just get a BoingBoing account and mention something about the great work Violet Blue is doing for the sex positive community these days .
Or mention anything at all negative about one of BB 's sponsors .
You 'll be shut down faster than Sarah Conner at a Terminator class reunion.George Orwell wept - Jesus just laughed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cory Doctroll strikes again.By the way, if you ever want to see some SERIOUS censorship - just get a BoingBoing account and mention something about the great work Violet Blue is doing for the sex positive community these days.
Or mention anything at all negative about one of BB's sponsors.
You'll be shut down faster than Sarah Conner at a Terminator class reunion.George Orwell wept - Jesus just laughed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079348</id>
	<title>actually, we are at war.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258021920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>At least, that was the excuse given when they put Jose Padilla, an American citizen on American soil, in jail without allowing him a lawyer or a fair hearing. Your rights are already gone due to the "war" on "terror" we are engaged in. So don't be so naive. The fact that we are "at war" has already been used to take away our rights, therefore the Geneva Convention does indeed apply.</htmltext>
<tokenext>At least , that was the excuse given when they put Jose Padilla , an American citizen on American soil , in jail without allowing him a lawyer or a fair hearing .
Your rights are already gone due to the " war " on " terror " we are engaged in .
So do n't be so naive .
The fact that we are " at war " has already been used to take away our rights , therefore the Geneva Convention does indeed apply .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least, that was the excuse given when they put Jose Padilla, an American citizen on American soil, in jail without allowing him a lawyer or a fair hearing.
Your rights are already gone due to the "war" on "terror" we are engaged in.
So don't be so naive.
The fact that we are "at war" has already been used to take away our rights, therefore the Geneva Convention does indeed apply.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30094216</id>
	<title>Corporatism.</title>
	<author>unity100</author>
	<datestamp>1258123440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the biggest enemy of mankind is corporatism. they took the place of aristocracy. now they are more harmful than dukes and counts and their fiefdoms.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the biggest enemy of mankind is corporatism .
they took the place of aristocracy .
now they are more harmful than dukes and counts and their fiefdoms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the biggest enemy of mankind is corporatism.
they took the place of aristocracy.
now they are more harmful than dukes and counts and their fiefdoms.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078702</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>TubeSteak</author>
	<datestamp>1258019580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I RTFA and I can't be the only one who sees a discongruence between "an entire town's municipal WiFi" &amp; "the 300 block".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I RTFA and I ca n't be the only one who sees a discongruence between " an entire town 's municipal WiFi " &amp; " the 300 block " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I RTFA and I can't be the only one who sees a discongruence between "an entire town's municipal WiFi" &amp; "the 300 block".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078566</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30085598</id>
	<title>Someone needs to organise a boycott.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258120500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A don't-go-to-the-movies weekend should stop this BS.</p><p>C.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A do n't-go-to-the-movies weekend should stop this BS.C .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A don't-go-to-the-movies weekend should stop this BS.C.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079572</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>fm6</author>
	<datestamp>1258022640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't confuse misrepresentation with stupidity. Nam37, like most slashdotters, considers himself a legal expert.</p><p>What is it about geeks that make them think they understand the law better than lawyers? Usually to their detriment, as Randal L. Schwartz, Shane Becker, and Hans Reiser can all testify. Or they could, if they could admit to their own stupidity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't confuse misrepresentation with stupidity .
Nam37 , like most slashdotters , considers himself a legal expert.What is it about geeks that make them think they understand the law better than lawyers ?
Usually to their detriment , as Randal L. Schwartz , Shane Becker , and Hans Reiser can all testify .
Or they could , if they could admit to their own stupidity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't confuse misrepresentation with stupidity.
Nam37, like most slashdotters, considers himself a legal expert.What is it about geeks that make them think they understand the law better than lawyers?
Usually to their detriment, as Randal L. Schwartz, Shane Becker, and Hans Reiser can all testify.
Or they could, if they could admit to their own stupidity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30087842</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258132920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem is that the condition of the town has nothing to do with the issue any more than the crap in the summary about how much money is being made by the movie companies.</p><p>Stealing from the rich is still stealing. Punishing others for the actions of one is stupid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is that the condition of the town has nothing to do with the issue any more than the crap in the summary about how much money is being made by the movie companies.Stealing from the rich is still stealing .
Punishing others for the actions of one is stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is that the condition of the town has nothing to do with the issue any more than the crap in the summary about how much money is being made by the movie companies.Stealing from the rich is still stealing.
Punishing others for the actions of one is stupid.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30080076</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30080538</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258026000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you make it all the way to the original source, the Coshocton Tribune says:<br>"About five years ago, the county made a free wireless Internet connection available in the block surrounding the Coshocton County Courthouse at 318 Main St."<br>So the internet at the "300 block" <i>was</i> the municipal WiFi;  there is no incongruity (discongruence being, so far as I am aware, a word you made up).</p><p>I grew up in Coshocton.  The shocking part for me is that there ever <i>was</i> municipal WiFi.  And for what it's worth, the 300 block - the area around the courthouse - makes up most of the city of Coshocton's downtown.  This is a tiny city we're talking about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you make it all the way to the original source , the Coshocton Tribune says : " About five years ago , the county made a free wireless Internet connection available in the block surrounding the Coshocton County Courthouse at 318 Main St. " So the internet at the " 300 block " was the municipal WiFi ; there is no incongruity ( discongruence being , so far as I am aware , a word you made up ) .I grew up in Coshocton .
The shocking part for me is that there ever was municipal WiFi .
And for what it 's worth , the 300 block - the area around the courthouse - makes up most of the city of Coshocton 's downtown .
This is a tiny city we 're talking about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you make it all the way to the original source, the Coshocton Tribune says:"About five years ago, the county made a free wireless Internet connection available in the block surrounding the Coshocton County Courthouse at 318 Main St."So the internet at the "300 block" was the municipal WiFi;  there is no incongruity (discongruence being, so far as I am aware, a word you made up).I grew up in Coshocton.
The shocking part for me is that there ever was municipal WiFi.
And for what it's worth, the 300 block - the area around the courthouse - makes up most of the city of Coshocton's downtown.
This is a tiny city we're talking about.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078814</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>hypergreatthing</author>
	<datestamp>1258020000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How could someone forget the ongoing war on drugs that's taking place there?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How could someone forget the ongoing war on drugs that 's taking place there ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How could someone forget the ongoing war on drugs that's taking place there?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079300</id>
	<title>Re:Help Me Understand ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258021800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't drink Alcohol, and have never spent time in bars while others around me get plastered - so I'm honestly curious:</p><p>What responsibility or culpability does the bar owner / bar tender have if someone leaves their bar totally drunk and kills someone on their way home?</p></div><p>I don't drink, either, nor do I hang around in bars, but as I understand it, bar owners/tenders DO have at least some responsibility to make sure their patrons don't get drunk to the point of a risk to their healths (i.e. alcohol poisoning) or to the bar or whatever's nearby it (i.e. cutting someone off if they start getting rowdy or otherwise uncontrollable).</p><p>I'm not sure if said responsibility is just out of the bar owner/tender's altruistic attempts to not <i>explicitly</i> make his/her establishment a hazard or if there's some precedent where they CAN be held legally responsible for what happens to their customers if served in excess, but I've got a feeling it's the latter.</p><p>Whether this applies to a municipality's WiFi access, of course, is a different matter.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't drink Alcohol , and have never spent time in bars while others around me get plastered - so I 'm honestly curious : What responsibility or culpability does the bar owner / bar tender have if someone leaves their bar totally drunk and kills someone on their way home ? I do n't drink , either , nor do I hang around in bars , but as I understand it , bar owners/tenders DO have at least some responsibility to make sure their patrons do n't get drunk to the point of a risk to their healths ( i.e .
alcohol poisoning ) or to the bar or whatever 's nearby it ( i.e .
cutting someone off if they start getting rowdy or otherwise uncontrollable ) .I 'm not sure if said responsibility is just out of the bar owner/tender 's altruistic attempts to not explicitly make his/her establishment a hazard or if there 's some precedent where they CAN be held legally responsible for what happens to their customers if served in excess , but I 've got a feeling it 's the latter.Whether this applies to a municipality 's WiFi access , of course , is a different matter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't drink Alcohol, and have never spent time in bars while others around me get plastered - so I'm honestly curious:What responsibility or culpability does the bar owner / bar tender have if someone leaves their bar totally drunk and kills someone on their way home?I don't drink, either, nor do I hang around in bars, but as I understand it, bar owners/tenders DO have at least some responsibility to make sure their patrons don't get drunk to the point of a risk to their healths (i.e.
alcohol poisoning) or to the bar or whatever's nearby it (i.e.
cutting someone off if they start getting rowdy or otherwise uncontrollable).I'm not sure if said responsibility is just out of the bar owner/tender's altruistic attempts to not explicitly make his/her establishment a hazard or if there's some precedent where they CAN be held legally responsible for what happens to their customers if served in excess, but I've got a feeling it's the latter.Whether this applies to a municipality's WiFi access, of course, is a different matter.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078968</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>dkh2</author>
	<datestamp>1258020600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>So the MPAA is clearly then allowed to treat civilians worse than people being occupied in wartime...</p></div></blockquote><p>You can bet your ass they can.</p><p>As the preceding Anonymous Coward response points out - your state and local police force may be permitted to use weapons your national militia may not.</p><p>There are certain unspoken legal advantages to NOT being a branch of any sovreign national government. Take note that many (not all) of the atrocities at Abu Ghraib were committed by private contractors. That doesn't excuse the official government personnel who were supposed to have control but the penalties for the contractors are very different.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So the MPAA is clearly then allowed to treat civilians worse than people being occupied in wartime...You can bet your ass they can.As the preceding Anonymous Coward response points out - your state and local police force may be permitted to use weapons your national militia may not.There are certain unspoken legal advantages to NOT being a branch of any sovreign national government .
Take note that many ( not all ) of the atrocities at Abu Ghraib were committed by private contractors .
That does n't excuse the official government personnel who were supposed to have control but the penalties for the contractors are very different .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So the MPAA is clearly then allowed to treat civilians worse than people being occupied in wartime...You can bet your ass they can.As the preceding Anonymous Coward response points out - your state and local police force may be permitted to use weapons your national militia may not.There are certain unspoken legal advantages to NOT being a branch of any sovreign national government.
Take note that many (not all) of the atrocities at Abu Ghraib were committed by private contractors.
That doesn't excuse the official government personnel who were supposed to have control but the penalties for the contractors are very different.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078750</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>C10H14N2</author>
	<datestamp>1258019760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am going to guess this had something to do with certain officials owing a favor or two to something relating to this:</p><p>"This short-range service is entirely separate from the wireless broadband being deployed throughout the county by Lightspeed."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am going to guess this had something to do with certain officials owing a favor or two to something relating to this : " This short-range service is entirely separate from the wireless broadband being deployed throughout the county by Lightspeed .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am going to guess this had something to do with certain officials owing a favor or two to something relating to this:"This short-range service is entirely separate from the wireless broadband being deployed throughout the county by Lightspeed.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079148</id>
	<title>Re:Help Me Understand ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258021200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Easy.</p><p>Bar Owner = small-time, laws apply to them.<br>MPAA = big time, laws do not apply to them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Easy.Bar Owner = small-time , laws apply to them.MPAA = big time , laws do not apply to them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Easy.Bar Owner = small-time, laws apply to them.MPAA = big time, laws do not apply to them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30086976</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>drquoz</author>
	<datestamp>1258128720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow, you have no clue about Coshocton. It's actually a pretty nice town. I've watched it grow a lot over the years, but even back in the day I wouldn't call it a pathetic poor hick town. I'd liken it more to Mayberry than Podunk. BTW, do you have any American flags? Chances are they came from Coshocton's Annin &amp; Co, the nation's oldest and largest flag manufacturer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , you have no clue about Coshocton .
It 's actually a pretty nice town .
I 've watched it grow a lot over the years , but even back in the day I would n't call it a pathetic poor hick town .
I 'd liken it more to Mayberry than Podunk .
BTW , do you have any American flags ?
Chances are they came from Coshocton 's Annin &amp; Co , the nation 's oldest and largest flag manufacturer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, you have no clue about Coshocton.
It's actually a pretty nice town.
I've watched it grow a lot over the years, but even back in the day I wouldn't call it a pathetic poor hick town.
I'd liken it more to Mayberry than Podunk.
BTW, do you have any American flags?
Chances are they came from Coshocton's Annin &amp; Co, the nation's oldest and largest flag manufacturer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30082630</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258039200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been thinking about this whole issue between the internet community and RIAA/MPAA for awhile now.  It's obvious we have to regain our ground against these dirty thieving usurpers, but what of the actual points they have?  It's true that one shouldn't enjoy the work of another without giving them something for it.  Since watching them suing college students, kids, and grandparents, I completely stopped buying music and movies.  I also stopped going to theaters nearly as much.  I stopped listening to radio as much.<br>So, I thought about it for a long time, and I think I've come to a solution that would work.  Try this - you can download all you want, but in order to host a file for other downloaders, you have to buy it first.  I think that this would be a solution that would be accepted across the board.  Not only could people still try and buy, but a constant downloading community would have basis for existing, as well as being able to legally provide for a flourishing music community.  If it was accepted by both sides, it could even be enforced with no hard feelings.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been thinking about this whole issue between the internet community and RIAA/MPAA for awhile now .
It 's obvious we have to regain our ground against these dirty thieving usurpers , but what of the actual points they have ?
It 's true that one should n't enjoy the work of another without giving them something for it .
Since watching them suing college students , kids , and grandparents , I completely stopped buying music and movies .
I also stopped going to theaters nearly as much .
I stopped listening to radio as much.So , I thought about it for a long time , and I think I 've come to a solution that would work .
Try this - you can download all you want , but in order to host a file for other downloaders , you have to buy it first .
I think that this would be a solution that would be accepted across the board .
Not only could people still try and buy , but a constant downloading community would have basis for existing , as well as being able to legally provide for a flourishing music community .
If it was accepted by both sides , it could even be enforced with no hard feelings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been thinking about this whole issue between the internet community and RIAA/MPAA for awhile now.
It's obvious we have to regain our ground against these dirty thieving usurpers, but what of the actual points they have?
It's true that one shouldn't enjoy the work of another without giving them something for it.
Since watching them suing college students, kids, and grandparents, I completely stopped buying music and movies.
I also stopped going to theaters nearly as much.
I stopped listening to radio as much.So, I thought about it for a long time, and I think I've come to a solution that would work.
Try this - you can download all you want, but in order to host a file for other downloaders, you have to buy it first.
I think that this would be a solution that would be accepted across the board.
Not only could people still try and buy, but a constant downloading community would have basis for existing, as well as being able to legally provide for a flourishing music community.
If it was accepted by both sides, it could even be enforced with no hard feelings.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079996</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>Nefarious Wheel</author>
	<datestamp>1258023960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The county then made the decision to shut down the wifi service, they weren't ordered to</p></div> </blockquote><p>Yes, a local government organisation caved in due to a single threat from a highly feared organisation.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The county then made the decision to shut down the wifi service , they were n't ordered to Yes , a local government organisation caved in due to a single threat from a highly feared organisation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The county then made the decision to shut down the wifi service, they weren't ordered to Yes, a local government organisation caved in due to a single threat from a highly feared organisation.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30083750</id>
	<title>That's why you don't build centraliced networks</title>
	<author>Casandro</author>
	<datestamp>1258050780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You don't build munchipal networks in a centraliced fashion, you make meshed networks which are in the hands of their users. That way there is no way anybody could turn them off. Maybe someone would decide to not offer Internet anymore, but turning of the network as a whole is impossible.</p><p>You can get cheap routers, install the Freifunk firmware and off you go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't build munchipal networks in a centraliced fashion , you make meshed networks which are in the hands of their users .
That way there is no way anybody could turn them off .
Maybe someone would decide to not offer Internet anymore , but turning of the network as a whole is impossible.You can get cheap routers , install the Freifunk firmware and off you go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't build munchipal networks in a centraliced fashion, you make meshed networks which are in the hands of their users.
That way there is no way anybody could turn them off.
Maybe someone would decide to not offer Internet anymore, but turning of the network as a whole is impossible.You can get cheap routers, install the Freifunk firmware and off you go.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30080574</id>
	<title>Corporation forced Public Utility to shut down</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1258026180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's like Evian or Fiji called up and said the Municipal Water System was being used to share some of its water (people dumping it down the drain, and others using it after its recycled in the treatment plant), and then the town shutting down the water.  Dumbest move ever.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's like Evian or Fiji called up and said the Municipal Water System was being used to share some of its water ( people dumping it down the drain , and others using it after its recycled in the treatment plant ) , and then the town shutting down the water .
Dumbest move ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's like Evian or Fiji called up and said the Municipal Water System was being used to share some of its water (people dumping it down the drain, and others using it after its recycled in the treatment plant), and then the town shutting down the water.
Dumbest move ever.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079296</id>
	<title>In a sense, yes, but that's hyperbole.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258021800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So the MPAA is clearly then allowed to treat civilians worse than people being occupied in wartime by any country that has signed the Geneva Convention?</p></div><p>Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention only applies to "protected persons."</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Art. 4. Persons protected by the Convention are those who, at a given moment and in any manner whatsoever, find themselves, in case of a conflict or occupation, in the hands of a Party to the conflict or Occupying Power of which they are not nationals.</p><p>Nationals of a State which is not bound by the Convention are not protected by it. Nationals of a neutral State who find themselves in the territory of a belligerent State, and nationals of a co-belligerent State, shall not be regarded as protected persons while the State of which they are nationals has normal diplomatic representation in the State in whose hands they are.</p></div><p>In short, a state can punish its own citizens collectively, at least as long as there's no actual war -- and all you smarty-pants who think the "War on Drugs" is an actual war are impressing no one, least of all an international criminal court.  (It's worth nothing that the US doesn't recognize the jurisdiction of the ICC either.)  This is why, no matter how much I still resent her, my 4th grade teacher isn't a war criminal.</p><p>It's also worth noting that turning off a service one party provides for free to multiple third parties is not generally recognized as a punitive act towards the third parties in the US.  "Punishment" is reserved for actions taken directly against an individual or group.  So closing a soup kitchen for health code violations is not "collective punishment" of the homeless nor is imprisoning a father collective punishment of his family.</p><p>Lastly, I think you've got a really sad sense of entitlement and pathetic, comfortable ignorance if you think that cutting off free Wi-fi at the park is equivalent to the kind of collective punishments that happen during war.  Read up on Stalin's <a href="http://bentcorner.com/2009/06/stalins-order-number-270/" title="bentcorner.com">Order 270</a> [bentcorner.com] or Sherman's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman's\_March\_to\_the\_Sea" title="wikipedia.org">March to the Sea.</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>And then stop your whining about Wi-fi.  The MPAA is being a bunch of jerks, but they're not engaging in war crimes.  People need to get some goddamned perspective.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So the MPAA is clearly then allowed to treat civilians worse than people being occupied in wartime by any country that has signed the Geneva Convention ? Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention only applies to " protected persons. " Art .
4. Persons protected by the Convention are those who , at a given moment and in any manner whatsoever , find themselves , in case of a conflict or occupation , in the hands of a Party to the conflict or Occupying Power of which they are not nationals.Nationals of a State which is not bound by the Convention are not protected by it .
Nationals of a neutral State who find themselves in the territory of a belligerent State , and nationals of a co-belligerent State , shall not be regarded as protected persons while the State of which they are nationals has normal diplomatic representation in the State in whose hands they are.In short , a state can punish its own citizens collectively , at least as long as there 's no actual war -- and all you smarty-pants who think the " War on Drugs " is an actual war are impressing no one , least of all an international criminal court .
( It 's worth nothing that the US does n't recognize the jurisdiction of the ICC either .
) This is why , no matter how much I still resent her , my 4th grade teacher is n't a war criminal.It 's also worth noting that turning off a service one party provides for free to multiple third parties is not generally recognized as a punitive act towards the third parties in the US .
" Punishment " is reserved for actions taken directly against an individual or group .
So closing a soup kitchen for health code violations is not " collective punishment " of the homeless nor is imprisoning a father collective punishment of his family.Lastly , I think you 've got a really sad sense of entitlement and pathetic , comfortable ignorance if you think that cutting off free Wi-fi at the park is equivalent to the kind of collective punishments that happen during war .
Read up on Stalin 's Order 270 [ bentcorner.com ] or Sherman 's March to the Sea .
[ wikipedia.org ] And then stop your whining about Wi-fi .
The MPAA is being a bunch of jerks , but they 're not engaging in war crimes .
People need to get some goddamned perspective .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So the MPAA is clearly then allowed to treat civilians worse than people being occupied in wartime by any country that has signed the Geneva Convention?Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention only applies to "protected persons."Art.
4. Persons protected by the Convention are those who, at a given moment and in any manner whatsoever, find themselves, in case of a conflict or occupation, in the hands of a Party to the conflict or Occupying Power of which they are not nationals.Nationals of a State which is not bound by the Convention are not protected by it.
Nationals of a neutral State who find themselves in the territory of a belligerent State, and nationals of a co-belligerent State, shall not be regarded as protected persons while the State of which they are nationals has normal diplomatic representation in the State in whose hands they are.In short, a state can punish its own citizens collectively, at least as long as there's no actual war -- and all you smarty-pants who think the "War on Drugs" is an actual war are impressing no one, least of all an international criminal court.
(It's worth nothing that the US doesn't recognize the jurisdiction of the ICC either.
)  This is why, no matter how much I still resent her, my 4th grade teacher isn't a war criminal.It's also worth noting that turning off a service one party provides for free to multiple third parties is not generally recognized as a punitive act towards the third parties in the US.
"Punishment" is reserved for actions taken directly against an individual or group.
So closing a soup kitchen for health code violations is not "collective punishment" of the homeless nor is imprisoning a father collective punishment of his family.Lastly, I think you've got a really sad sense of entitlement and pathetic, comfortable ignorance if you think that cutting off free Wi-fi at the park is equivalent to the kind of collective punishments that happen during war.
Read up on Stalin's Order 270 [bentcorner.com] or Sherman's March to the Sea.
[wikipedia.org]And then stop your whining about Wi-fi.
The MPAA is being a bunch of jerks, but they're not engaging in war crimes.
People need to get some goddamned perspective.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079926</id>
	<title>Re:Help Me Understand ....</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1258023780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The <a href="http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/joint+and+several+liability" title="thefreedictionary.com">"Joint and Several Liability"</a> [thefreedictionary.com] legal principle states that even if you are found to be 1\% liable for an injury, you can be made to pay 100\% of the actual and punitive damages in a lawsuit. This is more commonly known as the "Deep Pockets" principle: always sue the entity with the most money, not the entity most responsible. Yes, I believe it would apply to the provider of free WiFi as well, should the MPAA decide to file a lawsuit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The " Joint and Several Liability " [ thefreedictionary.com ] legal principle states that even if you are found to be 1 \ % liable for an injury , you can be made to pay 100 \ % of the actual and punitive damages in a lawsuit .
This is more commonly known as the " Deep Pockets " principle : always sue the entity with the most money , not the entity most responsible .
Yes , I believe it would apply to the provider of free WiFi as well , should the MPAA decide to file a lawsuit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The "Joint and Several Liability" [thefreedictionary.com] legal principle states that even if you are found to be 1\% liable for an injury, you can be made to pay 100\% of the actual and punitive damages in a lawsuit.
This is more commonly known as the "Deep Pockets" principle: always sue the entity with the most money, not the entity most responsible.
Yes, I believe it would apply to the provider of free WiFi as well, should the MPAA decide to file a lawsuit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079884</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>Pitawg</author>
	<datestamp>1258023600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When the WiFi is dhcp for all that connect, and they all share a single valid internet IP address for internet traffic, the one IP address <b>is</b> the entire WiFi network as far as the internet is concerned.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When the WiFi is dhcp for all that connect , and they all share a single valid internet IP address for internet traffic , the one IP address is the entire WiFi network as far as the internet is concerned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When the WiFi is dhcp for all that connect, and they all share a single valid internet IP address for internet traffic, the one IP address is the entire WiFi network as far as the internet is concerned.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079098</id>
	<title>Re:Help Me Understand ....</title>
	<author>dkh2</author>
	<datestamp>1258021080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the case of bars - the premise is that by serving you drinks, or making them available to you the bar assumes a certain level of responsibility for what you might do while drunk.</p><p>In the case of an open WiFi gateway - the same premise applies.  The gateway provider is perceived to have assumed some responsibility for what users do with the service.</p><p>I ain't sayin' it's right... that's just the argument that is getting people in trouble.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the case of bars - the premise is that by serving you drinks , or making them available to you the bar assumes a certain level of responsibility for what you might do while drunk.In the case of an open WiFi gateway - the same premise applies .
The gateway provider is perceived to have assumed some responsibility for what users do with the service.I ai n't sayin ' it 's right... that 's just the argument that is getting people in trouble .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the case of bars - the premise is that by serving you drinks, or making them available to you the bar assumes a certain level of responsibility for what you might do while drunk.In the case of an open WiFi gateway - the same premise applies.
The gateway provider is perceived to have assumed some responsibility for what users do with the service.I ain't sayin' it's right... that's just the argument that is getting people in trouble.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079688</id>
	<title>Re:Help Me Understand ....</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1258022940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>What responsibility or culpability does the bar owner / bar tender have if someone leaves their bar totally drunk and kills someone on their way home? </i></p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; In the litigation-happy US, I know that bartenders have been successfully sued for just that. But then again, crooks can sue the owner of a car they stole because the brakes are faulty.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; A criminal case, however, is another thing entirely.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Common sense, however, would say that no one forced the person into the bar, and no one forced the person to drink that alcohol. The bartender merely provides a service, and can't be responsible for all the wrongs in the world. However litigation has very little to do with common sense.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What responsibility or culpability does the bar owner / bar tender have if someone leaves their bar totally drunk and kills someone on their way home ?
      In the litigation-happy US , I know that bartenders have been successfully sued for just that .
But then again , crooks can sue the owner of a car they stole because the brakes are faulty .
      A criminal case , however , is another thing entirely .
      Common sense , however , would say that no one forced the person into the bar , and no one forced the person to drink that alcohol .
The bartender merely provides a service , and ca n't be responsible for all the wrongs in the world .
However litigation has very little to do with common sense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What responsibility or culpability does the bar owner / bar tender have if someone leaves their bar totally drunk and kills someone on their way home?
      In the litigation-happy US, I know that bartenders have been successfully sued for just that.
But then again, crooks can sue the owner of a car they stole because the brakes are faulty.
      A criminal case, however, is another thing entirely.
      Common sense, however, would say that no one forced the person into the bar, and no one forced the person to drink that alcohol.
The bartender merely provides a service, and can't be responsible for all the wrongs in the world.
However litigation has very little to do with common sense.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078812</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>Volante3192</author>
	<datestamp>1258020000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But we ARE in a war.  A couple actually.  The war on terror, the war on drugs... Probably more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But we ARE in a war .
A couple actually .
The war on terror , the war on drugs... Probably more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But we ARE in a war.
A couple actually.
The war on terror, the war on drugs... Probably more.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30081380</id>
	<title>Re:Non-story</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1258029960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How do the number of IP addresses matter? I bet there are entire areas/cities in East Asia that only have one IP address and twice or triple NAT.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How do the number of IP addresses matter ?
I bet there are entire areas/cities in East Asia that only have one IP address and twice or triple NAT .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do the number of IP addresses matter?
I bet there are entire areas/cities in East Asia that only have one IP address and twice or triple NAT.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078754</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30081308</id>
	<title>I call Bullshit!</title>
	<author>517714</author>
	<datestamp>1258029660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they know it was a single user, then they would have to know who that user is.  If they don't know who the user was it then could have been more than one.  As much as I hate those RIAA bastards, the statements made by others in this event are simply not credible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they know it was a single user , then they would have to know who that user is .
If they do n't know who the user was it then could have been more than one .
As much as I hate those RIAA bastards , the statements made by others in this event are simply not credible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they know it was a single user, then they would have to know who that user is.
If they don't know who the user was it then could have been more than one.
As much as I hate those RIAA bastards, the statements made by others in this event are simply not credible.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30092332</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>StikyPad</author>
	<datestamp>1258109520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I see an incongruence between English and that imaginative word you used.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I see an incongruence between English and that imaginative word you used .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see an incongruence between English and that imaginative word you used.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078702</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079210</id>
	<title>Re:Help Me Understand ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258021440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>in the usa<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. the bartender ( the server personally ) can be held liable. If it can be shown that the owner encouraged the server to allow people to drive when it is obvious they are not in any condition to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. the owner can be also held<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>in the usa .. the bartender ( the server personally ) can be held liable .
If it can be shown that the owner encouraged the server to allow people to drive when it is obvious they are not in any condition to .. the owner can be also held . .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in the usa .. the bartender ( the server personally ) can be held liable.
If it can be shown that the owner encouraged the server to allow people to drive when it is obvious they are not in any condition to .. the owner can be also held ..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078882</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30081814</id>
	<title>Re:Help Me Understand ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258032480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, the bar owner has a responsibility (at least in AUS) spelled out in his liquor licensing, and also in in law, that he responsibly serves alcohol to patrons. These responsibilities (punishable by fines, license revocation, and in extreme cases jail time) include :</p><p>1. no serving of alcohol to minors.<br>2. no serving to intoxicated persons<br>3. no supplying alcohol for consumption off the premises<br>4. no selling of alcohol to people who are buying on behalf of a minor.<br>5. no selling of alcohol beyond the times the premises is licenced for.<br>6. limits on the number of people<br>7. if a night club, a certain number of security people need to be present also (and be licensed as such)</p><p>and probably more. How this relates to this WiFi issue isn't really clear. But I think in the US that the owner of the network is liable for all traffic? eg if someone uses my unsecured WiFi to download stuff I am still liable yes?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , the bar owner has a responsibility ( at least in AUS ) spelled out in his liquor licensing , and also in in law , that he responsibly serves alcohol to patrons .
These responsibilities ( punishable by fines , license revocation , and in extreme cases jail time ) include : 1. no serving of alcohol to minors.2 .
no serving to intoxicated persons3 .
no supplying alcohol for consumption off the premises4 .
no selling of alcohol to people who are buying on behalf of a minor.5 .
no selling of alcohol beyond the times the premises is licenced for.6 .
limits on the number of people7 .
if a night club , a certain number of security people need to be present also ( and be licensed as such ) and probably more .
How this relates to this WiFi issue is n't really clear .
But I think in the US that the owner of the network is liable for all traffic ?
eg if someone uses my unsecured WiFi to download stuff I am still liable yes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, the bar owner has a responsibility (at least in AUS) spelled out in his liquor licensing, and also in in law, that he responsibly serves alcohol to patrons.
These responsibilities (punishable by fines, license revocation, and in extreme cases jail time) include :1. no serving of alcohol to minors.2.
no serving to intoxicated persons3.
no supplying alcohol for consumption off the premises4.
no selling of alcohol to people who are buying on behalf of a minor.5.
no selling of alcohol beyond the times the premises is licenced for.6.
limits on the number of people7.
if a night club, a certain number of security people need to be present also (and be licensed as such)and probably more.
How this relates to this WiFi issue isn't really clear.
But I think in the US that the owner of the network is liable for all traffic?
eg if someone uses my unsecured WiFi to download stuff I am still liable yes?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078882</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30081038</id>
	<title>This is gone on for too long.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258028220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, some body needs to shoot the MPAA motherfuckers in the head.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , some body needs to shoot the MPAA motherfuckers in the head .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, some body needs to shoot the MPAA motherfuckers in the head.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079506</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>Imrik</author>
	<datestamp>1258022460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They are one and the same, the 300 block is the only section of the town serviced by the municipal WiFi.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are one and the same , the 300 block is the only section of the town serviced by the municipal WiFi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are one and the same, the 300 block is the only section of the town serviced by the municipal WiFi.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078702</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078650</id>
	<title>Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258019340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hate to be pedantic.. but the fourth Geneva Convention (which OP was referring to) sets forth protection for civilians in <b>times of war</b>. Last I checked, there is not a war going on in Coshocton, OH and the MPAA is not a sovereign authority (as much as it might like to be). I always cringe when people reference the Geneva Conventions like this in such an overly dramatic and misrepresentation way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hate to be pedantic.. but the fourth Geneva Convention ( which OP was referring to ) sets forth protection for civilians in times of war .
Last I checked , there is not a war going on in Coshocton , OH and the MPAA is not a sovereign authority ( as much as it might like to be ) .
I always cringe when people reference the Geneva Conventions like this in such an overly dramatic and misrepresentation way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hate to be pedantic.. but the fourth Geneva Convention (which OP was referring to) sets forth protection for civilians in times of war.
Last I checked, there is not a war going on in Coshocton, OH and the MPAA is not a sovereign authority (as much as it might like to be).
I always cringe when people reference the Geneva Conventions like this in such an overly dramatic and misrepresentation way.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078860</id>
	<title>Hold your horses.</title>
	<author>FlyingBishop</author>
	<datestamp>1258020180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Put yourself in the IT admin's shoes. The city asks you to provide free, unencumbered wireless to everyone downtown.</p><p>If you're smart, you implement a registration system, etc. but of course nobody wants to deal with registration, so you just leave it open. Then you get slapped by the MPAA. You can magically secure funding / time to deal with this and make sure that you have a means to identify and disconnect infringers (which is what you need to get the MPAA off your back.)</p><p>Or you can turn the thing off. Odds are, the admin doesn't have resources for option A. And it makes sense: no one wants to be operating a network when they don't know who is using it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Put yourself in the IT admin 's shoes .
The city asks you to provide free , unencumbered wireless to everyone downtown.If you 're smart , you implement a registration system , etc .
but of course nobody wants to deal with registration , so you just leave it open .
Then you get slapped by the MPAA .
You can magically secure funding / time to deal with this and make sure that you have a means to identify and disconnect infringers ( which is what you need to get the MPAA off your back .
) Or you can turn the thing off .
Odds are , the admin does n't have resources for option A. And it makes sense : no one wants to be operating a network when they do n't know who is using it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Put yourself in the IT admin's shoes.
The city asks you to provide free, unencumbered wireless to everyone downtown.If you're smart, you implement a registration system, etc.
but of course nobody wants to deal with registration, so you just leave it open.
Then you get slapped by the MPAA.
You can magically secure funding / time to deal with this and make sure that you have a means to identify and disconnect infringers (which is what you need to get the MPAA off your back.
)Or you can turn the thing off.
Odds are, the admin doesn't have resources for option A. And it makes sense: no one wants to be operating a network when they don't know who is using it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079340</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258021920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The war on evil movie pirates that are going to bankrupt the movie industry...</p><p>completely unrelated:<br>I think the MPAA should show how much $ they are spending on copyright protection and then how much they are losing via lost DVD sales &amp; rentals and movie tickets...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The war on evil movie pirates that are going to bankrupt the movie industry...completely unrelated : I think the MPAA should show how much $ they are spending on copyright protection and then how much they are losing via lost DVD sales &amp; rentals and movie tickets.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The war on evil movie pirates that are going to bankrupt the movie industry...completely unrelated:I think the MPAA should show how much $ they are spending on copyright protection and then how much they are losing via lost DVD sales &amp; rentals and movie tickets...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078812</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30080960</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258027800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No they do it far worse, Cory isn't likely to get anyone killed with his rumor mongering...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No they do it far worse , Cory is n't likely to get anyone killed with his rumor mongering.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No they do it far worse, Cory isn't likely to get anyone killed with his rumor mongering...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079334</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30084944</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>Tuoqui</author>
	<datestamp>1258111560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dont forget the WAR ON TERROR!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dont forget the WAR ON TERROR !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dont forget the WAR ON TERROR!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078650</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078768</id>
	<title>Re:Geneva Conventions</title>
	<author>vekrander</author>
	<datestamp>1258019820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So the MPAA is clearly then allowed to treat civilians worse than people being occupied in wartime by any country that has signed the Geneva Convention?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So the MPAA is clearly then allowed to treat civilians worse than people being occupied in wartime by any country that has signed the Geneva Convention ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So the MPAA is clearly then allowed to treat civilians worse than people being occupied in wartime by any country that has signed the Geneva Convention?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078650</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079398</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>tsm\_sf</author>
	<datestamp>1258022100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Well, it is boingboing after all</i> <br> <br>

How do the unicorns fit into your rant?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , it is boingboing after all How do the unicorns fit into your rant ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, it is boingboing after all  

How do the unicorns fit into your rant?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078788</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30080218</id>
	<title>Re:Help Me Understand ....</title>
	<author>winomonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1258024680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What responsibility or culpability does the bar owner / bar tender have if someone leaves their bar totally drunk and kills someone on their way home?</p></div><p>Well, laws do vary by state, but a bar can lose their liquor license if they over serve a customer at the very least, and can be liable for various civil and criminal offenses in accordance with the "dram shop liability laws" of the region.  This link to an article from Massachusetts discusses a 1.9 million dollar suit that was settled out of court due to liability issues - <a href="http://www.bostonaccidentlawyerblog.com/alcoholliquor\_liability/" title="bostonacci...erblog.com">http://www.bostonaccidentlawyerblog.com/alcoholliquor\_liability/</a> [bostonacci...erblog.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What responsibility or culpability does the bar owner / bar tender have if someone leaves their bar totally drunk and kills someone on their way home ? Well , laws do vary by state , but a bar can lose their liquor license if they over serve a customer at the very least , and can be liable for various civil and criminal offenses in accordance with the " dram shop liability laws " of the region .
This link to an article from Massachusetts discusses a 1.9 million dollar suit that was settled out of court due to liability issues - http : //www.bostonaccidentlawyerblog.com/alcoholliquor \ _liability/ [ bostonacci...erblog.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What responsibility or culpability does the bar owner / bar tender have if someone leaves their bar totally drunk and kills someone on their way home?Well, laws do vary by state, but a bar can lose their liquor license if they over serve a customer at the very least, and can be liable for various civil and criminal offenses in accordance with the "dram shop liability laws" of the region.
This link to an article from Massachusetts discusses a 1.9 million dollar suit that was settled out of court due to liability issues - http://www.bostonaccidentlawyerblog.com/alcoholliquor\_liability/ [bostonacci...erblog.com]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078882</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30082894</id>
	<title>It doesnt matter</title>
	<author>madcat2c</author>
	<datestamp>1258041480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>IT does not matter if you steal 1 diamond from a rich diamond store, you are still a thief.</htmltext>
<tokenext>IT does not matter if you steal 1 diamond from a rich diamond store , you are still a thief .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IT does not matter if you steal 1 diamond from a rich diamond store, you are still a thief.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30079014</id>
	<title>Re:Wasn't the MPAA who shut down the network</title>
	<author>jythie</author>
	<datestamp>1258020720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While that clears up the mechanics, it still points to the MPAA being too powerful since it is an example of a private company being able to control a public government though simple fear of ending up in the crosshairs.</p><p>When governments fear corporations, we have gone through full circle though capitalism and can arrive on the other side of communism.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While that clears up the mechanics , it still points to the MPAA being too powerful since it is an example of a private company being able to control a public government though simple fear of ending up in the crosshairs.When governments fear corporations , we have gone through full circle though capitalism and can arrive on the other side of communism .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While that clears up the mechanics, it still points to the MPAA being too powerful since it is an example of a private company being able to control a public government though simple fear of ending up in the crosshairs.When governments fear corporations, we have gone through full circle though capitalism and can arrive on the other side of communism.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078566</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30089738</id>
	<title>Re:In other news...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258140960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wasn't that one of the arguments against building the interstate highway systems in the fifties?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Was n't that one of the arguments against building the interstate highway systems in the fifties ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wasn't that one of the arguments against building the interstate highway systems in the fifties?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30080854</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30086248</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>CapnStank</author>
	<datestamp>1258125360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"since ISPs are protected by safe harbour provisions, and the MPAA has to file lawsuits against individuals, even if it's a jane/john doe discovery thing"<br> <br>

Tell that to <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/afact-v-iinet-safe-harbor-protection-intact-says-iinet-091113/" title="torrentfreak.com" rel="nofollow">AFACT</a> [torrentfreak.com] (a company representing multiple major media corporations battling a lawsuit against a Australian ISP [iiNet] over infringements of their customers)</htmltext>
<tokenext>" since ISPs are protected by safe harbour provisions , and the MPAA has to file lawsuits against individuals , even if it 's a jane/john doe discovery thing " Tell that to AFACT [ torrentfreak.com ] ( a company representing multiple major media corporations battling a lawsuit against a Australian ISP [ iiNet ] over infringements of their customers )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"since ISPs are protected by safe harbour provisions, and the MPAA has to file lawsuits against individuals, even if it's a jane/john doe discovery thing" 

Tell that to AFACT [torrentfreak.com] (a company representing multiple major media corporations battling a lawsuit against a Australian ISP [iiNet] over infringements of their customers)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078964</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30080152</id>
	<title>This is not a story, this is sensationalistic bs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258024500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the kind of utter CRAP that makes me wonder why I waste time reading Slashdot.</p><p>For God's sake, a smaller number of stories which are actually of substance would<br>be infinitely preferable to garbage like this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the kind of utter CRAP that makes me wonder why I waste time reading Slashdot.For God 's sake , a smaller number of stories which are actually of substance wouldbe infinitely preferable to garbage like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the kind of utter CRAP that makes me wonder why I waste time reading Slashdot.For God's sake, a smaller number of stories which are actually of substance wouldbe infinitely preferable to garbage like this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30080076</id>
	<title>Re:There must be something more</title>
	<author>TyroneShoe</author>
	<datestamp>1258024260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The problem is that Coshocton is a pathetic little hick town east of Columbus, OH. The primary product that it produces is poor people and poorer people. The last time I went there, the high points of my trip were a blizzard from DQ and leaving.

The reason they didn't fight the case is because the town is SO freaking poor that they didn't stand a chance. It's sad too because for such a little podunk town, they actually did something smart and progressive: muni wifi. Their reward for doing so? The MPAA Whambulance.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is that Coshocton is a pathetic little hick town east of Columbus , OH .
The primary product that it produces is poor people and poorer people .
The last time I went there , the high points of my trip were a blizzard from DQ and leaving .
The reason they did n't fight the case is because the town is SO freaking poor that they did n't stand a chance .
It 's sad too because for such a little podunk town , they actually did something smart and progressive : muni wifi .
Their reward for doing so ?
The MPAA Whambulance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is that Coshocton is a pathetic little hick town east of Columbus, OH.
The primary product that it produces is poor people and poorer people.
The last time I went there, the high points of my trip were a blizzard from DQ and leaving.
The reason they didn't fight the case is because the town is SO freaking poor that they didn't stand a chance.
It's sad too because for such a little podunk town, they actually did something smart and progressive: muni wifi.
Their reward for doing so?
The MPAA Whambulance.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_12_2025201.30078534</parent>
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