<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_11_1821255</id>
	<title>Microsoft Disconnects Modded Xbox Users</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1257964260000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>S-4'N3 writes <i>"The BBC reports that <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8354166.stm">Microsoft has disconnected approximately 600,000 Xbox users</a> from Xbox Live because the devices they are using have been modified, either with software or with new chips, to play pirated games. 'Microsoft confirmed that it had banned a "small percentage" of the 20 million Xbox Live users worldwide.
Microsoft said that modifying an Xbox 360 console 'violates' the service's 'terms of use' and would result in a player being disconnected.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>S-4'N3 writes " The BBC reports that Microsoft has disconnected approximately 600,000 Xbox users from Xbox Live because the devices they are using have been modified , either with software or with new chips , to play pirated games .
'Microsoft confirmed that it had banned a " small percentage " of the 20 million Xbox Live users worldwide .
Microsoft said that modifying an Xbox 360 console 'violates ' the service 's 'terms of use ' and would result in a player being disconnected .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>S-4'N3 writes "The BBC reports that Microsoft has disconnected approximately 600,000 Xbox users from Xbox Live because the devices they are using have been modified, either with software or with new chips, to play pirated games.
'Microsoft confirmed that it had banned a "small percentage" of the 20 million Xbox Live users worldwide.
Microsoft said that modifying an Xbox 360 console 'violates' the service's 'terms of use' and would result in a player being disconnected.
'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30065274</id>
	<title>Hey Steve Ballmer</title>
	<author>chucklebutte</author>
	<datestamp>1257068100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Go fuck yourself, seriously.

I bought an lcd monitor a few years back, it just died on me so I smashed the shit out of it. Funny thing is I coulda smashed the shit out of it when I first bought it, I coulda put stickers on it too if I cared to. Hell I could have sex with my monitor if I choose so! The point is IT IS MY MONITOR I CAN DO WHAT I LIKE TO IT!



Still dont get it? How about we go buy a brand new car and put a new engine in it, or we can go buy some food and throw it away. YOU CAN DO ANYTHING TO ANYTHING YOU BUY! What the fuck is wrong with these people, no one can tell me how to use the shit I buy, and if that means I wanna mod my console because assholes lock shit out and I miss out on a ton of jp games is just how it goes! Fuck your ToS, Fuck your EULA's, and fuck all of those big businesses that hurt and punish customers, then stab them in the back.

I will do what I please to anything I own, if big corporations cant deal with that then they need to go and die like the dinosaurs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Go fuck yourself , seriously .
I bought an lcd monitor a few years back , it just died on me so I smashed the shit out of it .
Funny thing is I coulda smashed the shit out of it when I first bought it , I coulda put stickers on it too if I cared to .
Hell I could have sex with my monitor if I choose so !
The point is IT IS MY MONITOR I CAN DO WHAT I LIKE TO IT !
Still dont get it ?
How about we go buy a brand new car and put a new engine in it , or we can go buy some food and throw it away .
YOU CAN DO ANYTHING TO ANYTHING YOU BUY !
What the fuck is wrong with these people , no one can tell me how to use the shit I buy , and if that means I wan na mod my console because assholes lock shit out and I miss out on a ton of jp games is just how it goes !
Fuck your ToS , Fuck your EULA 's , and fuck all of those big businesses that hurt and punish customers , then stab them in the back .
I will do what I please to anything I own , if big corporations cant deal with that then they need to go and die like the dinosaurs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go fuck yourself, seriously.
I bought an lcd monitor a few years back, it just died on me so I smashed the shit out of it.
Funny thing is I coulda smashed the shit out of it when I first bought it, I coulda put stickers on it too if I cared to.
Hell I could have sex with my monitor if I choose so!
The point is IT IS MY MONITOR I CAN DO WHAT I LIKE TO IT!
Still dont get it?
How about we go buy a brand new car and put a new engine in it, or we can go buy some food and throw it away.
YOU CAN DO ANYTHING TO ANYTHING YOU BUY!
What the fuck is wrong with these people, no one can tell me how to use the shit I buy, and if that means I wanna mod my console because assholes lock shit out and I miss out on a ton of jp games is just how it goes!
Fuck your ToS, Fuck your EULA's, and fuck all of those big businesses that hurt and punish customers, then stab them in the back.
I will do what I please to anything I own, if big corporations cant deal with that then they need to go and die like the dinosaurs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064700</id>
	<title>If this was Apple...</title>
	<author>RockClimbingFool</author>
	<datestamp>1257108780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...about 600,000 consoles would have been permanently disabled from doing anything.  And people would be applauding their action.
</p><p>
I think Microsoft took the best course of action in this situation.  Ban the modded consoles from the protected Xbox Live network (to stop possible cheating) but still allow almost full functionality of the modded console.  AKA, you bought the hardware, do want you want with it.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...about 600,000 consoles would have been permanently disabled from doing anything .
And people would be applauding their action .
I think Microsoft took the best course of action in this situation .
Ban the modded consoles from the protected Xbox Live network ( to stop possible cheating ) but still allow almost full functionality of the modded console .
AKA , you bought the hardware , do want you want with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...about 600,000 consoles would have been permanently disabled from doing anything.
And people would be applauding their action.
I think Microsoft took the best course of action in this situation.
Ban the modded consoles from the protected Xbox Live network (to stop possible cheating) but still allow almost full functionality of the modded console.
AKA, you bought the hardware, do want you want with it.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30067776</id>
	<title>Re:Media industry FUD settled in our heads?</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1257081240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just give up and embrace it.  Arrr!  A generation raised on Spongebob Squarepants will have much better associations for pirates.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just give up and embrace it .
Arrr ! A generation raised on Spongebob Squarepants will have much better associations for pirates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just give up and embrace it.
Arrr!  A generation raised on Spongebob Squarepants will have much better associations for pirates.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30067018</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone else want an open source console?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257076500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Open source consoles exist.  They're called "PCs".  Stick Linux on there and enjoy all the games you love.*</p><p>* Provided the games you love are Tux Racer, Frozen Bubble, and half a dozen unfinished multiplayer FPSes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Open source consoles exist .
They 're called " PCs " .
Stick Linux on there and enjoy all the games you love .
* * Provided the games you love are Tux Racer , Frozen Bubble , and half a dozen unfinished multiplayer FPSes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Open source consoles exist.
They're called "PCs".
Stick Linux on there and enjoy all the games you love.
** Provided the games you love are Tux Racer, Frozen Bubble, and half a dozen unfinished multiplayer FPSes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30066490</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>BobMcD</author>
	<datestamp>1257073800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Or, god forbid, play used games.</p></div><p>Sure, but for how long?  They are a razor's edge away from the ability to ban you for buying used games as well, you know.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or , god forbid , play used games.Sure , but for how long ?
They are a razor 's edge away from the ability to ban you for buying used games as well , you know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or, god forbid, play used games.Sure, but for how long?
They are a razor's edge away from the ability to ban you for buying used games as well, you know.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063324</id>
	<title>360</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257103920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently some people have gone as far as <a href="http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/11/10/ms-banned-600000-from-xbox-live-aims-at-1000000/" title="sankakucomplex.com">calling death threats</a> [sankakucomplex.com] to a "Director of Policy and Enforcement for Xbox LIVE" and his wife (theres also irc logs where he came to say it on #360banned)</p><p>There has been modded xbox360 bans before too, so it shouldn't come as a surprise to people when they do get banned. And at least it keeps the cheaters off games.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently some people have gone as far as calling death threats [ sankakucomplex.com ] to a " Director of Policy and Enforcement for Xbox LIVE " and his wife ( theres also irc logs where he came to say it on # 360banned ) There has been modded xbox360 bans before too , so it should n't come as a surprise to people when they do get banned .
And at least it keeps the cheaters off games .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently some people have gone as far as calling death threats [sankakucomplex.com] to a "Director of Policy and Enforcement for Xbox LIVE" and his wife (theres also irc logs where he came to say it on #360banned)There has been modded xbox360 bans before too, so it shouldn't come as a surprise to people when they do get banned.
And at least it keeps the cheaters off games.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30065330</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>stewbacca</author>
	<datestamp>1257068400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If he couldn't afford to buy them in the first place, that means he wouldn't have bought them in the first place, which means the game company is not out of any money, because the guy couldn't afford to buy the game in the first place.  Seems pretty simple to me?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If he could n't afford to buy them in the first place , that means he would n't have bought them in the first place , which means the game company is not out of any money , because the guy could n't afford to buy the game in the first place .
Seems pretty simple to me ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If he couldn't afford to buy them in the first place, that means he wouldn't have bought them in the first place, which means the game company is not out of any money, because the guy couldn't afford to buy the game in the first place.
Seems pretty simple to me?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063634</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30065318</id>
	<title>Are there "stealth" mods?</title>
	<author>alexo</author>
	<datestamp>1257068280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are there mods for the X360 that can be "turned off" before going online so the console appears, for all intents and purposes, as an unmodded one?<br>I believe that some PS2 modchips advertised such features.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are there mods for the X360 that can be " turned off " before going online so the console appears , for all intents and purposes , as an unmodded one ? I believe that some PS2 modchips advertised such features .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are there mods for the X360 that can be "turned off" before going online so the console appears, for all intents and purposes, as an unmodded one?I believe that some PS2 modchips advertised such features.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063814</id>
	<title>Modding consoles?</title>
	<author>Vahokif</author>
	<datestamp>1257105480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Aww, look at all the console kids wanting to be PC gamers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Aww , look at all the console kids wanting to be PC gamers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aww, look at all the console kids wanting to be PC gamers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064668</id>
	<title>Re:"a small percentage"</title>
	<author>GasparGMSwordsman</author>
	<datestamp>1257108600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>600,000 of 20,000,000</p><p>there are some who would call this "three percent"</p></div><p>And some people would call that "nineteen percent" and others that would call it "almost all."<br> <br>

I shouldn't think it surprises you that "some" people suck at math, nor that "some" marketing people suck at it...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>600,000 of 20,000,000there are some who would call this " three percent " And some people would call that " nineteen percent " and others that would call it " almost all .
" I should n't think it surprises you that " some " people suck at math , nor that " some " marketing people suck at it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>600,000 of 20,000,000there are some who would call this "three percent"And some people would call that "nineteen percent" and others that would call it "almost all.
" 

I shouldn't think it surprises you that "some" people suck at math, nor that "some" marketing people suck at it...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30139298</id>
	<title>lmk;pk</title>
	<author>l0l0\_ph0r3v3r</author>
	<datestamp>1258476240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>dfsgdsfgd frsgrsagws</htmltext>
<tokenext>dfsgdsfgd frsgrsagws</tokentext>
<sentencetext>dfsgdsfgd frsgrsagws</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064056</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>Jah-Wren Ryel</author>
	<datestamp>1257106260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I've long argued, especially when it comes to games and entertainment related media, there's absolutely NO justification in copyright infringement EVER.</p></div><p>Then, if you are consistent, you must have exactly the same belief regarding the various copyright extensions through the years.<br>Just because they are laws doesn't make them justified.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've long argued , especially when it comes to games and entertainment related media , there 's absolutely NO justification in copyright infringement EVER.Then , if you are consistent , you must have exactly the same belief regarding the various copyright extensions through the years.Just because they are laws does n't make them justified .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've long argued, especially when it comes to games and entertainment related media, there's absolutely NO justification in copyright infringement EVER.Then, if you are consistent, you must have exactly the same belief regarding the various copyright extensions through the years.Just because they are laws doesn't make them justified.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30139372</id>
	<title>palapala</title>
	<author>l0l0\_ph0r3v3r</author>
	<datestamp>1258476660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>XOXOXOXOXOXOxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox</htmltext>
<tokenext>XOXOXOXOXOXOxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox</tokentext>
<sentencetext>XOXOXOXOXOXOxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063926</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257105840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I realize you are not taking this view, but responding to it anyway<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Microsoft lost nothing as he did not take a physical disc and he got 600 pounds of value. Some would say that this is a good thing as no wealth was lost and 600 pounds of wealth was created. Since he could not have paid, there was no lost sale.</p></div><p>The only problem is, he <i>could</i> afford it.  He spent 75 pounds to get it "chipped."  That's the 12\% of the price of the 30-40 games he later said he copied, so he could have at least bought 10\% of those games (3-4).</p><p>My take is that people have decided they want what they want <i>now</i> and if there is an easy and relatively safe way to illegally obtain it - instead of paying for it or saving up and paying for it - they will do it the illegal way.  Modding wasn't illegal, AFAIK, but downloading was.  And yes, Microsoft lost sales; presumably this guy would have bought games if he wasn't getting them for free, as he did have money to spend on it.</p><p>The "no lost sale" argument still implies that it's okay to do something as long as you can't afford to do it.  That's the part of the argument that's wrong, IMO.  That and there does definitely seem to be a pervading can't-wait feeling.  You (and I) wait for the game prices to go down.  These kids tell us they "can't" wait and that they don't have anything else to do if they can't play the newest games.  Something is wrong there...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I realize you are not taking this view , but responding to it anyway : ) Microsoft lost nothing as he did not take a physical disc and he got 600 pounds of value .
Some would say that this is a good thing as no wealth was lost and 600 pounds of wealth was created .
Since he could not have paid , there was no lost sale.The only problem is , he could afford it .
He spent 75 pounds to get it " chipped .
" That 's the 12 \ % of the price of the 30-40 games he later said he copied , so he could have at least bought 10 \ % of those games ( 3-4 ) .My take is that people have decided they want what they want now and if there is an easy and relatively safe way to illegally obtain it - instead of paying for it or saving up and paying for it - they will do it the illegal way .
Modding was n't illegal , AFAIK , but downloading was .
And yes , Microsoft lost sales ; presumably this guy would have bought games if he was n't getting them for free , as he did have money to spend on it.The " no lost sale " argument still implies that it 's okay to do something as long as you ca n't afford to do it .
That 's the part of the argument that 's wrong , IMO .
That and there does definitely seem to be a pervading ca n't-wait feeling .
You ( and I ) wait for the game prices to go down .
These kids tell us they " ca n't " wait and that they do n't have anything else to do if they ca n't play the newest games .
Something is wrong there.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I realize you are not taking this view, but responding to it anyway :)Microsoft lost nothing as he did not take a physical disc and he got 600 pounds of value.
Some would say that this is a good thing as no wealth was lost and 600 pounds of wealth was created.
Since he could not have paid, there was no lost sale.The only problem is, he could afford it.
He spent 75 pounds to get it "chipped.
"  That's the 12\% of the price of the 30-40 games he later said he copied, so he could have at least bought 10\% of those games (3-4).My take is that people have decided they want what they want now and if there is an easy and relatively safe way to illegally obtain it - instead of paying for it or saving up and paying for it - they will do it the illegal way.
Modding wasn't illegal, AFAIK, but downloading was.
And yes, Microsoft lost sales; presumably this guy would have bought games if he wasn't getting them for free, as he did have money to spend on it.The "no lost sale" argument still implies that it's okay to do something as long as you can't afford to do it.
That's the part of the argument that's wrong, IMO.
That and there does definitely seem to be a pervading can't-wait feeling.
You (and I) wait for the game prices to go down.
These kids tell us they "can't" wait and that they don't have anything else to do if they can't play the newest games.
Something is wrong there...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30066014</id>
	<title>Re:Hey Steve Ballmer</title>
	<author>Ash-Fox</author>
	<datestamp>1257071940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're allowed to mod your hardware. You're just not allowed to use modded hardware on their service, it says so in the contract you agreed to while using their service.</p><p>If you don't like it, don't buy it.</p><p>Have a nice day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're allowed to mod your hardware .
You 're just not allowed to use modded hardware on their service , it says so in the contract you agreed to while using their service.If you do n't like it , do n't buy it.Have a nice day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're allowed to mod your hardware.
You're just not allowed to use modded hardware on their service, it says so in the contract you agreed to while using their service.If you don't like it, don't buy it.Have a nice day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30067590</id>
	<title>Bit for bit copy ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257080220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't get it. If one inserts a bit-for-bit copy of a genuine DVD, how does the console know it is not legit ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get it .
If one inserts a bit-for-bit copy of a genuine DVD , how does the console know it is not legit ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't get it.
If one inserts a bit-for-bit copy of a genuine DVD, how does the console know it is not legit ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063728</id>
	<title>Re:"a small percentage"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257105240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What I find funny is on another forum I was reading about this early today, the very first reply was "600,000 out of 20 mil! thats a HUGE PERCENTAGE." Lol.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What I find funny is on another forum I was reading about this early today , the very first reply was " 600,000 out of 20 mil !
thats a HUGE PERCENTAGE .
" Lol .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I find funny is on another forum I was reading about this early today, the very first reply was "600,000 out of 20 mil!
thats a HUGE PERCENTAGE.
" Lol.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064022</id>
	<title>Re:So they kicked off all the pirates now?</title>
	<author>BillCable</author>
	<datestamp>1257106200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Kinda funny they are preventing these 600,000 people from buying the only thing Microsoft was getting any money from them for.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Kinda funny they are preventing these 600,000 people from buying the only thing Microsoft was getting any money from them for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kinda funny they are preventing these 600,000 people from buying the only thing Microsoft was getting any money from them for.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063874</id>
	<title>Number is Wild Ass Guess - Here's the source</title>
	<author>harl</author>
	<datestamp>1257105660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The number is a wild ass guess.  It's from a an anonymous post to a forum.  In typical internet fashion it's being parroted around as fact.</p><p><a href="http://www.digital-forums.com/showthread.php?t=608748" title="digital-forums.com">http://www.digital-forums.com/showthread.php?t=608748</a> [digital-forums.com]</p><p>It's literally friend of a friend info that the BBC et al. is reporting as fact.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The number is a wild ass guess .
It 's from a an anonymous post to a forum .
In typical internet fashion it 's being parroted around as fact.http : //www.digital-forums.com/showthread.php ? t = 608748 [ digital-forums.com ] It 's literally friend of a friend info that the BBC et al .
is reporting as fact .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The number is a wild ass guess.
It's from a an anonymous post to a forum.
In typical internet fashion it's being parroted around as fact.http://www.digital-forums.com/showthread.php?t=608748 [digital-forums.com]It's literally friend of a friend info that the BBC et al.
is reporting as fact.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064774</id>
	<title>oddly everyone's gaming PC still works</title>
	<author>Dan667</author>
	<datestamp>1257109080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>vendor lock-in for this is the main reason I will never own a console.  That and games are a lot more fun on a PC.</htmltext>
<tokenext>vendor lock-in for this is the main reason I will never own a console .
That and games are a lot more fun on a PC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>vendor lock-in for this is the main reason I will never own a console.
That and games are a lot more fun on a PC.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063508</id>
	<title>Re:"a small percentage"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257104460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and there are some who call 3 percent "a small percentage"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and there are some who call 3 percent " a small percentage "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and there are some who call 3 percent "a small percentage"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063472</id>
	<title>Irritated?</title>
	<author>smitty777</author>
	<datestamp>1257104400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to Starfleet medical research, Borg implants can cause severe skin irritations. Perhaps you'd like an analgesic cream?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to Starfleet medical research , Borg implants can cause severe skin irritations .
Perhaps you 'd like an analgesic cream ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to Starfleet medical research, Borg implants can cause severe skin irritations.
Perhaps you'd like an analgesic cream?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064376</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>timster</author>
	<datestamp>1257107460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think you could say that 600 pounds of wealth was created.  If you're going to measure "wealth" in a unit of currency you need some argument that other people would actually pay that much.  Nobody is going to pay $1000 for a stack of pirated games unless you trick them into thinking they're genuine.</p><p>Perhaps he received some happiness but you can't measure that with currency.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think you could say that 600 pounds of wealth was created .
If you 're going to measure " wealth " in a unit of currency you need some argument that other people would actually pay that much .
Nobody is going to pay $ 1000 for a stack of pirated games unless you trick them into thinking they 're genuine.Perhaps he received some happiness but you ca n't measure that with currency .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think you could say that 600 pounds of wealth was created.
If you're going to measure "wealth" in a unit of currency you need some argument that other people would actually pay that much.
Nobody is going to pay $1000 for a stack of pirated games unless you trick them into thinking they're genuine.Perhaps he received some happiness but you can't measure that with currency.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30065402</id>
	<title>Re:"a small percentage"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257068700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>600,000 of 20,000,000</p><p>there are some who would call this "three percent"</p></div><p>Compare it to the percentage of users that experienced problems with Vista or Win7, and 3\% is a really "small percentage" by MS standards!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>600,000 of 20,000,000there are some who would call this " three percent " Compare it to the percentage of users that experienced problems with Vista or Win7 , and 3 \ % is a really " small percentage " by MS standards !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>600,000 of 20,000,000there are some who would call this "three percent"Compare it to the percentage of users that experienced problems with Vista or Win7, and 3\% is a really "small percentage" by MS standards!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063412</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30069114</id>
	<title>EVE Online bans</title>
	<author>skyriser2</author>
	<datestamp>1257093360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reminds me of the recent bans on the EVE Online MMO, "Unholy Rage":</p><p>"While the number of accounts banned in the opening phase of the operation constituted around 2\% of the total active registered accounts, the CPU per user usage was cut by a good 30\%. That is a whole lot of CPU for the rest of you to play with, people."</p><p><a href="http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&amp;bid=687" title="eveonline.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&amp;bid=687</a> [eveonline.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminds me of the recent bans on the EVE Online MMO , " Unholy Rage " : " While the number of accounts banned in the opening phase of the operation constituted around 2 \ % of the total active registered accounts , the CPU per user usage was cut by a good 30 \ % .
That is a whole lot of CPU for the rest of you to play with , people .
" http : //www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp ? a = blog&amp;bid = 687 [ eveonline.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminds me of the recent bans on the EVE Online MMO, "Unholy Rage":"While the number of accounts banned in the opening phase of the operation constituted around 2\% of the total active registered accounts, the CPU per user usage was cut by a good 30\%.
That is a whole lot of CPU for the rest of you to play with, people.
"http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&amp;bid=687 [eveonline.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063412</id>
	<title>"a small percentage"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257104220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>600,000 of 20,000,000</p><p>there are some who would call this "three percent"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>600,000 of 20,000,000there are some who would call this " three percent "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>600,000 of 20,000,000there are some who would call this "three percent"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063958</id>
	<title>Fun with numbers</title>
	<author>mollog</author>
	<datestamp>1257105960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>does the slashdot crowd think copying 30-40 games and "saving &pound;600" is good?</i> <br> <br>

And, how many of those games does the modder actually play on a regular basis? With the mod, he can get access to 30-40 games. But does he really play 30-40 games?<br> <br>

I'll bet money he plays just a few games. Now do your math. It's close to a wash at 75 pounds.<br> <br>

Microsoft was attempting to create a closed market for games when it developed the Xbox system. The free-market system found a way to defeat that closed system. Or, don't you believe in free markets?</htmltext>
<tokenext>does the slashdot crowd think copying 30-40 games and " saving   600 " is good ?
And , how many of those games does the modder actually play on a regular basis ?
With the mod , he can get access to 30-40 games .
But does he really play 30-40 games ?
I 'll bet money he plays just a few games .
Now do your math .
It 's close to a wash at 75 pounds .
Microsoft was attempting to create a closed market for games when it developed the Xbox system .
The free-market system found a way to defeat that closed system .
Or , do n't you believe in free markets ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>does the slashdot crowd think copying 30-40 games and "saving £600" is good?
And, how many of those games does the modder actually play on a regular basis?
With the mod, he can get access to 30-40 games.
But does he really play 30-40 games?
I'll bet money he plays just a few games.
Now do your math.
It's close to a wash at 75 pounds.
Microsoft was attempting to create a closed market for games when it developed the Xbox system.
The free-market system found a way to defeat that closed system.
Or, don't you believe in free markets?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064274</id>
	<title>Anglo-American law is strange</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257107100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>roman-based law ( most EU states excluding UK ) has a fundamental principal<p>
if you sold it, you can not deny anything if it gets changed by the buyer.</p><p>
So MS better watch out if you disconnected EU Xbox users.</p><p>
you might end up getting another case with the EU.</p><p>
For an EU Xbox user to be disconnected from services MS has to proof that changes made to the Xbox result in illegal use - eg. actually using pirated games. The ability alone is not enough!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>roman-based law ( most EU states excluding UK ) has a fundamental principal if you sold it , you can not deny anything if it gets changed by the buyer .
So MS better watch out if you disconnected EU Xbox users .
you might end up getting another case with the EU .
For an EU Xbox user to be disconnected from services MS has to proof that changes made to the Xbox result in illegal use - eg .
actually using pirated games .
The ability alone is not enough !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>roman-based law ( most EU states excluding UK ) has a fundamental principal
if you sold it, you can not deny anything if it gets changed by the buyer.
So MS better watch out if you disconnected EU Xbox users.
you might end up getting another case with the EU.
For an EU Xbox user to be disconnected from services MS has to proof that changes made to the Xbox result in illegal use - eg.
actually using pirated games.
The ability alone is not enough!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30070164</id>
	<title>Revenue Boost</title>
	<author>HugeLandMonster</author>
	<datestamp>1258059420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> When a company wants to increase its revenue they will initiate a ban.  The pay method of the individual is never banned.  The company will no longer have to provided the service that the end user payed up front for.  It is then predictable that a high percentage of users that were banned will immediately repurchase it.</p><p>600,000 Gold accounts are worth how much?</p><p>Arbitray:</p><p>600,000 x $27.50 USD (3 months) =  $16,500,000.00</p><p>AVG user is on day 10 of 90 day prepaid Gold Service</p><p>Ban-Hammer is dropped</p><p>M$ just made 14,850,000 pure profit by not having to honor remaining service</p><p>Follow week after the Ban-Hammer 50\% of users repurchase Gold accounts $8,250,000.00 of new cash surge</p><p>If M$ or any company for that matter wanted to curtail cheaters and modders, they would ban your Credit Card (pay method).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When a company wants to increase its revenue they will initiate a ban .
The pay method of the individual is never banned .
The company will no longer have to provided the service that the end user payed up front for .
It is then predictable that a high percentage of users that were banned will immediately repurchase it.600,000 Gold accounts are worth how much ? Arbitray : 600,000 x $ 27.50 USD ( 3 months ) = $ 16,500,000.00AVG user is on day 10 of 90 day prepaid Gold ServiceBan-Hammer is droppedM $ just made 14,850,000 pure profit by not having to honor remaining serviceFollow week after the Ban-Hammer 50 \ % of users repurchase Gold accounts $ 8,250,000.00 of new cash surgeIf M $ or any company for that matter wanted to curtail cheaters and modders , they would ban your Credit Card ( pay method ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> When a company wants to increase its revenue they will initiate a ban.
The pay method of the individual is never banned.
The company will no longer have to provided the service that the end user payed up front for.
It is then predictable that a high percentage of users that were banned will immediately repurchase it.600,000 Gold accounts are worth how much?Arbitray:600,000 x $27.50 USD (3 months) =  $16,500,000.00AVG user is on day 10 of 90 day prepaid Gold ServiceBan-Hammer is droppedM$ just made 14,850,000 pure profit by not having to honor remaining serviceFollow week after the Ban-Hammer 50\% of users repurchase Gold accounts $8,250,000.00 of new cash surgeIf M$ or any company for that matter wanted to curtail cheaters and modders, they would ban your Credit Card (pay method).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30069642</id>
	<title>Possible Solution?</title>
	<author>BountyX</author>
	<datestamp>1257099840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The hardware information is obviously transmitted over the Internet. Why not setup a proxy server to try a replay attack? I know it seems a bit obvious, but it's worth a shot. The general idea would be to take a working xbox 360 console, analyze the packets sent after successful LIVE connection, and figure out where the hardware info is being sent in the data stream. Proxy server would rewrite the packets making it appear as though the legit xbox logged in. It's probably encrypted, perhaps try encrypting serial numbers or hardware identifiers in popular algorithms and looking for those in the packet data? If you can get your hands on the patch that disables the mod console it should be easy to RE.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The hardware information is obviously transmitted over the Internet .
Why not setup a proxy server to try a replay attack ?
I know it seems a bit obvious , but it 's worth a shot .
The general idea would be to take a working xbox 360 console , analyze the packets sent after successful LIVE connection , and figure out where the hardware info is being sent in the data stream .
Proxy server would rewrite the packets making it appear as though the legit xbox logged in .
It 's probably encrypted , perhaps try encrypting serial numbers or hardware identifiers in popular algorithms and looking for those in the packet data ?
If you can get your hands on the patch that disables the mod console it should be easy to RE .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The hardware information is obviously transmitted over the Internet.
Why not setup a proxy server to try a replay attack?
I know it seems a bit obvious, but it's worth a shot.
The general idea would be to take a working xbox 360 console, analyze the packets sent after successful LIVE connection, and figure out where the hardware info is being sent in the data stream.
Proxy server would rewrite the packets making it appear as though the legit xbox logged in.
It's probably encrypted, perhaps try encrypting serial numbers or hardware identifiers in popular algorithms and looking for those in the packet data?
If you can get your hands on the patch that disables the mod console it should be easy to RE.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063858</id>
	<title>Marketing more than Customer Service</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257105660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The timing on this is making me skeptical. It looks like they waited to do the bans until the Christmas season. That way little jimmy will be asking for a new xbox because his old one got banned.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The timing on this is making me skeptical .
It looks like they waited to do the bans until the Christmas season .
That way little jimmy will be asking for a new xbox because his old one got banned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The timing on this is making me skeptical.
It looks like they waited to do the bans until the Christmas season.
That way little jimmy will be asking for a new xbox because his old one got banned.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30139282</id>
	<title>dfgdfs</title>
	<author>l0l0\_ph0r3v3r</author>
	<datestamp>1258476120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>fdhdhdfhdfshdfh</htmltext>
<tokenext>fdhdhdfhdfshdfh</tokentext>
<sentencetext>fdhdhdfhdfshdfh</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063714</id>
	<title>As a corperate customer told me yesterday...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257105180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... a small percent of a large number is still a large number.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... a small percent of a large number is still a large number .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... a small percent of a large number is still a large number.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063412</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064896</id>
	<title>Re:"a small percentage"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257066420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>600,000 of 20,000,000</p><p>there are some who would call this "three percent"</p></div><p>... and there are others who would call 3\% "a small percentage"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>600,000 of 20,000,000there are some who would call this " three percent " ... and there are others who would call 3 \ % " a small percentage "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>600,000 of 20,000,000there are some who would call this "three percent"... and there are others who would call 3\% "a small percentage"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063412</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30065532</id>
	<title>Re:With every loss there is opportunity...</title>
	<author>hypergreatthing</author>
	<datestamp>1257069540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You do realize that some games are online only with no single player modes?</p><p>I hope someone comes back with a lawsuit against M$ mainly because to ban modded consoles doesn't solve anything.  Cheaters will find another way to cheat and modders will find a way around being detected or around being banned.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do realize that some games are online only with no single player modes ? I hope someone comes back with a lawsuit against M $ mainly because to ban modded consoles does n't solve anything .
Cheaters will find another way to cheat and modders will find a way around being detected or around being banned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You do realize that some games are online only with no single player modes?I hope someone comes back with a lawsuit against M$ mainly because to ban modded consoles doesn't solve anything.
Cheaters will find another way to cheat and modders will find a way around being detected or around being banned.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063952</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30067146</id>
	<title>Time warp opens and Voyager travels to old news</title>
	<author>vorlich</author>
	<datestamp>1257077220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why is this news? Microsoft have been doing this since the days of the original Xbox. This is the reason my original Xbox with its 40 quid Xecutor chip running XBMC, serving films and music (I guess I should say "choons") and still playing  Halo one and two, has never ever logged in to the games network. The Xecutor chip is switchable and can be turned off to do all that complicated online stuff however<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... as long as you never feed it after midnight.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is this news ?
Microsoft have been doing this since the days of the original Xbox .
This is the reason my original Xbox with its 40 quid Xecutor chip running XBMC , serving films and music ( I guess I should say " choons " ) and still playing Halo one and two , has never ever logged in to the games network .
The Xecutor chip is switchable and can be turned off to do all that complicated online stuff however ... as long as you never feed it after midnight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is this news?
Microsoft have been doing this since the days of the original Xbox.
This is the reason my original Xbox with its 40 quid Xecutor chip running XBMC, serving films and music (I guess I should say "choons") and still playing  Halo one and two, has never ever logged in to the games network.
The Xecutor chip is switchable and can be turned off to do all that complicated online stuff however ... as long as you never feed it after midnight.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30066166</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>Abcd1234</author>
	<datestamp>1257072600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I've long argued, especially when it comes to games and entertainment related media, there's absolutely NO justification in copyright infringement EVER.</i></p><p>Really?  I buy a movie but technological measures prevent me from format shifting that content, despite the law giving me that very right under the fair use doctrine, and you're saying I'm not justified in acquiring that content illegally so that I can exercise those rights?</p><p>Interesting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've long argued , especially when it comes to games and entertainment related media , there 's absolutely NO justification in copyright infringement EVER.Really ?
I buy a movie but technological measures prevent me from format shifting that content , despite the law giving me that very right under the fair use doctrine , and you 're saying I 'm not justified in acquiring that content illegally so that I can exercise those rights ? Interesting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've long argued, especially when it comes to games and entertainment related media, there's absolutely NO justification in copyright infringement EVER.Really?
I buy a movie but technological measures prevent me from format shifting that content, despite the law giving me that very right under the fair use doctrine, and you're saying I'm not justified in acquiring that content illegally so that I can exercise those rights?Interesting.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063894</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064468</id>
	<title>Re:"a small percentage"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257107700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This 600K number is from some anon blogger.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This 600K number is from some anon blogger .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This 600K number is from some anon blogger.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063412</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30065398</id>
	<title>Re:With every loss there is opportunity...</title>
	<author>stewbacca</author>
	<datestamp>1257068640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With all the money these guys have saved on pirated games, they can just go out and buy a new Xbox.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With all the money these guys have saved on pirated games , they can just go out and buy a new Xbox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With all the money these guys have saved on pirated games, they can just go out and buy a new Xbox.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30065826</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257071040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Or, god forbid, play used games</p></div><p>And you don't even have to go used.  The price often comes down, even on good games, to $20-$30, if not lower.  (If you're like me, you can stay perpetually 6-12 months behind the new releases and save an insane amount over full price.)  Or wait for a sale like Amazon's deal of the day.  Or join a rental service if you've got hundreds of hours to kill every month and really need quantity.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or , god forbid , play used gamesAnd you do n't even have to go used .
The price often comes down , even on good games , to $ 20- $ 30 , if not lower .
( If you 're like me , you can stay perpetually 6-12 months behind the new releases and save an insane amount over full price .
) Or wait for a sale like Amazon 's deal of the day .
Or join a rental service if you 've got hundreds of hours to kill every month and really need quantity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or, god forbid, play used gamesAnd you don't even have to go used.
The price often comes down, even on good games, to $20-$30, if not lower.
(If you're like me, you can stay perpetually 6-12 months behind the new releases and save an insane amount over full price.
)  Or wait for a sale like Amazon's deal of the day.
Or join a rental service if you've got hundreds of hours to kill every month and really need quantity.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063844</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>IndustrialComplex</author>
	<datestamp>1257105600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Hum. Out of curiosity, does the slashdot crowd think copying 30-40 games and "saving &pound;600" is good? Wouldn't that actually be considered<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... basically stealing? Maybe he couldn't afford &pound;600 of games. I don't feel sorry for him. Not being able to afford something/something being too expensive doesn't mean you should get it illegally (and it's ok, as long as you couldn't afford it).</i></p><p>I don't think it is good.  I think it is terrible.  It is exactly people like him who are the ones which are giving the corporations the impression that such things are the norm and therefore they feel they need to do something to stop it.</p><p>People like that piss me off because it makes my complaints (non-interoperable hardware, laws damaging freedom/privacy, few legal digital options) seem less valid because there always seems to be 'that guy' standing next to you making faces and fart noises while you attempt to engage in rationale discourse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hum .
Out of curiosity , does the slashdot crowd think copying 30-40 games and " saving   600 " is good ?
Would n't that actually be considered ... basically stealing ?
Maybe he could n't afford   600 of games .
I do n't feel sorry for him .
Not being able to afford something/something being too expensive does n't mean you should get it illegally ( and it 's ok , as long as you could n't afford it ) .I do n't think it is good .
I think it is terrible .
It is exactly people like him who are the ones which are giving the corporations the impression that such things are the norm and therefore they feel they need to do something to stop it.People like that piss me off because it makes my complaints ( non-interoperable hardware , laws damaging freedom/privacy , few legal digital options ) seem less valid because there always seems to be 'that guy ' standing next to you making faces and fart noises while you attempt to engage in rationale discourse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hum.
Out of curiosity, does the slashdot crowd think copying 30-40 games and "saving £600" is good?
Wouldn't that actually be considered ... basically stealing?
Maybe he couldn't afford £600 of games.
I don't feel sorry for him.
Not being able to afford something/something being too expensive doesn't mean you should get it illegally (and it's ok, as long as you couldn't afford it).I don't think it is good.
I think it is terrible.
It is exactly people like him who are the ones which are giving the corporations the impression that such things are the norm and therefore they feel they need to do something to stop it.People like that piss me off because it makes my complaints (non-interoperable hardware, laws damaging freedom/privacy, few legal digital options) seem less valid because there always seems to be 'that guy' standing next to you making faces and fart noises while you attempt to engage in rationale discourse.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064964</id>
	<title>Re:With every loss there is opportunity...</title>
	<author>scorp1us</author>
	<datestamp>1257066660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, considering they are only banning "modded" xboxen, it seems that the buyer should be looking for an "unmodified" xbox. And I do believe that modded xboxen are not a valid item to sell on ebay. So unless the buyer is comitting fraud, and risks losing his ebay account, you should be reasonably safe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , considering they are only banning " modded " xboxen , it seems that the buyer should be looking for an " unmodified " xbox .
And I do believe that modded xboxen are not a valid item to sell on ebay .
So unless the buyer is comitting fraud , and risks losing his ebay account , you should be reasonably safe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, considering they are only banning "modded" xboxen, it seems that the buyer should be looking for an "unmodified" xbox.
And I do believe that modded xboxen are not a valid item to sell on ebay.
So unless the buyer is comitting fraud, and risks losing his ebay account, you should be reasonably safe.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30072204</id>
	<title>Re:And, as usual, collateral damage.</title>
	<author>jittles</author>
	<datestamp>1258039560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have no sympathy for the person complaining to the consumerist in that article. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he really did mod both consoles.  Why? Because he complains that he had disks ruined by 1st generation Xboxes.  He blames Microsoft for this problem.  Well, there was an engineering flaw that would cause your disk to be scratched if you tilted your console while the disk was spinning.  But what kind of idiot tilts an optical drive while it is spinning?</p><p>Just the fact that he blames Microsoft for his own stupidity suggests that he'd lie about modding.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have no sympathy for the person complaining to the consumerist in that article .
In fact , I would n't be surprised if he really did mod both consoles .
Why ? Because he complains that he had disks ruined by 1st generation Xboxes .
He blames Microsoft for this problem .
Well , there was an engineering flaw that would cause your disk to be scratched if you tilted your console while the disk was spinning .
But what kind of idiot tilts an optical drive while it is spinning ? Just the fact that he blames Microsoft for his own stupidity suggests that he 'd lie about modding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have no sympathy for the person complaining to the consumerist in that article.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he really did mod both consoles.
Why? Because he complains that he had disks ruined by 1st generation Xboxes.
He blames Microsoft for this problem.
Well, there was an engineering flaw that would cause your disk to be scratched if you tilted your console while the disk was spinning.
But what kind of idiot tilts an optical drive while it is spinning?Just the fact that he blames Microsoft for his own stupidity suggests that he'd lie about modding.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064570</id>
	<title>Re:With every loss there is opportunity...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257108240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft does not give a sh*t about used console sales. In fact, this works out BETTER for them.</p><p>If they can altogether BAN used console sales, this is just a step before banning the sale of used games.</p><p>Give it a little more time, and each game will be "locked" to a specific console.</p><p>Want to sell your console? better sell all the games with it.</p><p>Next, consoles will be locked to an emaill account and credit card number.</p><p>Next, you will pay a "small monthly fee" for console rental, and more "small monthly fees" for the rights to play certain games.</p><p>Think it won't work? It already does, you pay "small monthly fees" for "your" cellphone, and other people get to decide what you can do with/to it.</p><p>We are shifting to a rental model for everything, small mointhly fees, get used to paying them, for everything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft does not give a sh * t about used console sales .
In fact , this works out BETTER for them.If they can altogether BAN used console sales , this is just a step before banning the sale of used games.Give it a little more time , and each game will be " locked " to a specific console.Want to sell your console ?
better sell all the games with it.Next , consoles will be locked to an emaill account and credit card number.Next , you will pay a " small monthly fee " for console rental , and more " small monthly fees " for the rights to play certain games.Think it wo n't work ?
It already does , you pay " small monthly fees " for " your " cellphone , and other people get to decide what you can do with/to it.We are shifting to a rental model for everything , small mointhly fees , get used to paying them , for everything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft does not give a sh*t about used console sales.
In fact, this works out BETTER for them.If they can altogether BAN used console sales, this is just a step before banning the sale of used games.Give it a little more time, and each game will be "locked" to a specific console.Want to sell your console?
better sell all the games with it.Next, consoles will be locked to an emaill account and credit card number.Next, you will pay a "small monthly fee" for console rental, and more "small monthly fees" for the rights to play certain games.Think it won't work?
It already does, you pay "small monthly fees" for "your" cellphone, and other people get to decide what you can do with/to it.We are shifting to a rental model for everything, small mointhly fees, get used to paying them, for everything.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30065224</id>
	<title>Re:"a small percentage"</title>
	<author>MikeURL</author>
	<datestamp>1257067980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If it is an accurate figure then it is 600,000 of Live's most active users.  I know there is some back and forth here regarding whether these are people who are attempting to cheat or are they JUST trying to play pirated games.  I suspect it is both and I've seen enough gameplay that I'd describe as "impossible" to achieve with an Xbox controller.  I've even watched Xbox tournaments so i have some idea of what is possible when the gameplay is locked down to JUST an Xbox controller.
<br> <br>
There is a point beyond where no human being can go with a controller unless they are cheating in some way.  I think some significant chunk of this 600,000 are people who are using cheat mods.  It isn't possible, of course, to know exactly how many.  Sadly Xbox can't boot the people who have attached mouse/keyboard combos to their Xbox.
<br> <br>
Lastly all of this is exacerbated by the ranking system.  If the ranking system was based almost purely on the k/d ratio then all the "cheaters" would be playing each other in fairly short order.  Particularly if large k/d ratios moved you up VERY quickly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it is an accurate figure then it is 600,000 of Live 's most active users .
I know there is some back and forth here regarding whether these are people who are attempting to cheat or are they JUST trying to play pirated games .
I suspect it is both and I 've seen enough gameplay that I 'd describe as " impossible " to achieve with an Xbox controller .
I 've even watched Xbox tournaments so i have some idea of what is possible when the gameplay is locked down to JUST an Xbox controller .
There is a point beyond where no human being can go with a controller unless they are cheating in some way .
I think some significant chunk of this 600,000 are people who are using cheat mods .
It is n't possible , of course , to know exactly how many .
Sadly Xbox ca n't boot the people who have attached mouse/keyboard combos to their Xbox .
Lastly all of this is exacerbated by the ranking system .
If the ranking system was based almost purely on the k/d ratio then all the " cheaters " would be playing each other in fairly short order .
Particularly if large k/d ratios moved you up VERY quickly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it is an accurate figure then it is 600,000 of Live's most active users.
I know there is some back and forth here regarding whether these are people who are attempting to cheat or are they JUST trying to play pirated games.
I suspect it is both and I've seen enough gameplay that I'd describe as "impossible" to achieve with an Xbox controller.
I've even watched Xbox tournaments so i have some idea of what is possible when the gameplay is locked down to JUST an Xbox controller.
There is a point beyond where no human being can go with a controller unless they are cheating in some way.
I think some significant chunk of this 600,000 are people who are using cheat mods.
It isn't possible, of course, to know exactly how many.
Sadly Xbox can't boot the people who have attached mouse/keyboard combos to their Xbox.
Lastly all of this is exacerbated by the ranking system.
If the ranking system was based almost purely on the k/d ratio then all the "cheaters" would be playing each other in fairly short order.
Particularly if large k/d ratios moved you up VERY quickly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064710</id>
	<title>Uhhh</title>
	<author>KharmaWidow</author>
	<datestamp>1257108840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe I don't understand the nature nor purpose of these mods, but isn't what you do on your hardware your own business if you are not stealing from Microsoft?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe I do n't understand the nature nor purpose of these mods , but is n't what you do on your hardware your own business if you are not stealing from Microsoft ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe I don't understand the nature nor purpose of these mods, but isn't what you do on your hardware your own business if you are not stealing from Microsoft?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063932</id>
	<title>RRoD Fixes</title>
	<author>sajuuk</author>
	<datestamp>1257105900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder if we'll get stats on how many of the consoles were banned were actually registered as modded because they used the 'copper penny heatsink' mod to prevent Red Rings due to overheating and just didn't reassemble their console correctly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if we 'll get stats on how many of the consoles were banned were actually registered as modded because they used the 'copper penny heatsink ' mod to prevent Red Rings due to overheating and just did n't reassemble their console correctly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if we'll get stats on how many of the consoles were banned were actually registered as modded because they used the 'copper penny heatsink' mod to prevent Red Rings due to overheating and just didn't reassemble their console correctly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30074332</id>
	<title>Re:And, as usual, collateral damage.</title>
	<author>brkello</author>
	<datestamp>1258048320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So one person complaining about this and a link to a thread with another person complaining is a disaster?  We don't even know how honest the person is being.  You expect someone who pirates games to be honest about what they were doing?  Of course not, they are going to lie to the end to try to get their box back on life or make MS look bad since they got caught.<br> <br>Are there potentially some legitimate people who got hit by this?  Of course.  But calling it a disaster when you have no idea how many false positives there are is stupid.  I could come up with some sob story as well...and the whole...I spent $5200 thing...I find highly suspect.  Some people have more money than sense, but even if you were unemployed, you couldn't play that many games.  Also, if I spent that much I would be freaking out at MS.  This guy seems calm...even says things like he will give it a month before he starts buying again.  It is very easy to make something like this up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So one person complaining about this and a link to a thread with another person complaining is a disaster ?
We do n't even know how honest the person is being .
You expect someone who pirates games to be honest about what they were doing ?
Of course not , they are going to lie to the end to try to get their box back on life or make MS look bad since they got caught .
Are there potentially some legitimate people who got hit by this ?
Of course .
But calling it a disaster when you have no idea how many false positives there are is stupid .
I could come up with some sob story as well...and the whole...I spent $ 5200 thing...I find highly suspect .
Some people have more money than sense , but even if you were unemployed , you could n't play that many games .
Also , if I spent that much I would be freaking out at MS. This guy seems calm...even says things like he will give it a month before he starts buying again .
It is very easy to make something like this up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So one person complaining about this and a link to a thread with another person complaining is a disaster?
We don't even know how honest the person is being.
You expect someone who pirates games to be honest about what they were doing?
Of course not, they are going to lie to the end to try to get their box back on life or make MS look bad since they got caught.
Are there potentially some legitimate people who got hit by this?
Of course.
But calling it a disaster when you have no idea how many false positives there are is stupid.
I could come up with some sob story as well...and the whole...I spent $5200 thing...I find highly suspect.
Some people have more money than sense, but even if you were unemployed, you couldn't play that many games.
Also, if I spent that much I would be freaking out at MS.  This guy seems calm...even says things like he will give it a month before he starts buying again.
It is very easy to make something like this up.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30066616</id>
	<title>Baned for useing a non M$ over priced HDD others d</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1257074340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Baned for useing a non M$ over priced HDD others don't do that.</p><p>The PS3 lets you your disks.</p><p>Direct tv lets you use e-sata disks. and they are ok with bigger disks on the in side of owned boxes as well.</p><p>DISH network lets you use usb HDD's</p><p>M$ locks out 3rd part memory cards.</p><p>How is the Benjamin J Heckendorn able to get away with the xbox 360 laptop?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Baned for useing a non M $ over priced HDD others do n't do that.The PS3 lets you your disks.Direct tv lets you use e-sata disks .
and they are ok with bigger disks on the in side of owned boxes as well.DISH network lets you use usb HDD'sM $ locks out 3rd part memory cards.How is the Benjamin J Heckendorn able to get away with the xbox 360 laptop ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Baned for useing a non M$ over priced HDD others don't do that.The PS3 lets you your disks.Direct tv lets you use e-sata disks.
and they are ok with bigger disks on the in side of owned boxes as well.DISH network lets you use usb HDD'sM$ locks out 3rd part memory cards.How is the Benjamin J Heckendorn able to get away with the xbox 360 laptop?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064452</id>
	<title>Any word if modded Hard Drives have been hit?</title>
	<author>Bruiser80</author>
	<datestamp>1257107700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It appears that this update reflects chipped XBoxes. I guess this story isn't about the storage update that is coming up? <br> <br>
I'm waiting on that update to determine if I can buy a laptop 120GB drive for $60 instead of just deleting crap off my 20GB drive.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It appears that this update reflects chipped XBoxes .
I guess this story is n't about the storage update that is coming up ?
I 'm waiting on that update to determine if I can buy a laptop 120GB drive for $ 60 instead of just deleting crap off my 20GB drive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It appears that this update reflects chipped XBoxes.
I guess this story isn't about the storage update that is coming up?
I'm waiting on that update to determine if I can buy a laptop 120GB drive for $60 instead of just deleting crap off my 20GB drive.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30065902</id>
	<title>Re:So they kicked off all the pirates now?</title>
	<author>Servaas</author>
	<datestamp>1257071460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>600.000 banned out of 20.000.000 sold xboxes isnt 3\% modded xboxes.

I bet there is a large percentage of people who dont go online or had theirs turned off. Like me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>600.000 banned out of 20.000.000 sold xboxes isnt 3 \ % modded xboxes .
I bet there is a large percentage of people who dont go online or had theirs turned off .
Like me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>600.000 banned out of 20.000.000 sold xboxes isnt 3\% modded xboxes.
I bet there is a large percentage of people who dont go online or had theirs turned off.
Like me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063894</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>fredjh</author>
	<datestamp>1257105720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah... I don't think eldavojohn was advocating stealing... quite the opposite.</p><p>I've long argued, especially when it comes to games and entertainment related media, there's absolutely NO justification in copyright infringement EVER.</p><p>On the other hand, the DMCA sucks ass.  People should be able to mod their consoles and have copies of the games they've legally purchased... it'd be like a media PC storing DVDs on the hard drive for easier playback.  Unless you can distinguish between those who steal and those who just want to make life easier for themselves, it's hard to call them criminals.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah... I do n't think eldavojohn was advocating stealing... quite the opposite.I 've long argued , especially when it comes to games and entertainment related media , there 's absolutely NO justification in copyright infringement EVER.On the other hand , the DMCA sucks ass .
People should be able to mod their consoles and have copies of the games they 've legally purchased... it 'd be like a media PC storing DVDs on the hard drive for easier playback .
Unless you can distinguish between those who steal and those who just want to make life easier for themselves , it 's hard to call them criminals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah... I don't think eldavojohn was advocating stealing... quite the opposite.I've long argued, especially when it comes to games and entertainment related media, there's absolutely NO justification in copyright infringement EVER.On the other hand, the DMCA sucks ass.
People should be able to mod their consoles and have copies of the games they've legally purchased... it'd be like a media PC storing DVDs on the hard drive for easier playback.
Unless you can distinguish between those who steal and those who just want to make life easier for themselves, it's hard to call them criminals.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063724</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257105240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That entire first-hand-account is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... annoying.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I was pulling my hair out thinking, 'No, why me?'</p></div><p>That's a question easily answered.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>It's like telling someone their dog's just died.</p></div><p>He likes his xbox too much.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I still think they should lower the prices. There are 16-year-old kids out there, they don't earn money so they go screaming to their parents saying, 'Can you buy me this game?'</p></div><p>Their parents should say "No.  You buy it yourself.  Go earn some money."  And why should they lower the prices if people are buying them as it is?  I guess normal supply-and-demand isn't good enough for people that don't want to pay for their entertainment.  It should be cheaper for the sake of being cheaper...</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Fair enough, one game once in a while but the amount of games coming out, good games, everyone wants to play them all.</p> </div><p>I would love to have a 100 acre ranch near where I work, too.  Unfortunately, they're too expensive.</p><p>My favorite quote.  </p><p><div class="quote"><p>I play with my mates all the time. It's just a good laugh, we all sit there chatting, playing games. Now I don't know what to do.</p></div><p>How about sit there and chat with your mates?  Or is playing video games the only thing you and your mates know how to do, and you can't actually have fun without it.  *sigh*</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That entire first-hand-account is ... annoying.I was pulling my hair out thinking , 'No , why me ?
'That 's a question easily answered.It 's like telling someone their dog 's just died.He likes his xbox too much.I still think they should lower the prices .
There are 16-year-old kids out there , they do n't earn money so they go screaming to their parents saying , 'Can you buy me this game ?
'Their parents should say " No .
You buy it yourself .
Go earn some money .
" And why should they lower the prices if people are buying them as it is ?
I guess normal supply-and-demand is n't good enough for people that do n't want to pay for their entertainment .
It should be cheaper for the sake of being cheaper...Fair enough , one game once in a while but the amount of games coming out , good games , everyone wants to play them all .
I would love to have a 100 acre ranch near where I work , too .
Unfortunately , they 're too expensive.My favorite quote .
I play with my mates all the time .
It 's just a good laugh , we all sit there chatting , playing games .
Now I do n't know what to do.How about sit there and chat with your mates ?
Or is playing video games the only thing you and your mates know how to do , and you ca n't actually have fun without it .
* sigh *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That entire first-hand-account is ... annoying.I was pulling my hair out thinking, 'No, why me?
'That's a question easily answered.It's like telling someone their dog's just died.He likes his xbox too much.I still think they should lower the prices.
There are 16-year-old kids out there, they don't earn money so they go screaming to their parents saying, 'Can you buy me this game?
'Their parents should say "No.
You buy it yourself.
Go earn some money.
"  And why should they lower the prices if people are buying them as it is?
I guess normal supply-and-demand isn't good enough for people that don't want to pay for their entertainment.
It should be cheaper for the sake of being cheaper...Fair enough, one game once in a while but the amount of games coming out, good games, everyone wants to play them all.
I would love to have a 100 acre ranch near where I work, too.
Unfortunately, they're too expensive.My favorite quote.
I play with my mates all the time.
It's just a good laugh, we all sit there chatting, playing games.
Now I don't know what to do.How about sit there and chat with your mates?
Or is playing video games the only thing you and your mates know how to do, and you can't actually have fun without it.
*sigh*
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063952</id>
	<title>With every loss there is opportunity...</title>
	<author>denton420</author>
	<datestamp>1257105960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First of all let me say that the market for used xbox consoles just got extremely dangerous!</p><p>Microsoft needs to set up a system where you can check the status of an xbox console remotely so people can still sell consoles with confidence... 600K Xboxes are about to go up on ebay for a deal that is just too good to pass up.</p><p>Secondly if you assume that you do not mind playing games offline that you have pirated, you can still beat the system. Is that not what this is all about?</p><p>Step 1: Buy an xbox that has been live banned for very cheap off ebay. It has already been modded, so you dont have to pay for that.</p><p>Step 2: Download 50-60 dollar games for free and play them to your hearts content, offline.</p><p>After a few games you have already made your money back from the initial purchase of the console.</p><p>What if you want to play on xbox live? You have a live console that you do not hack and just enjoy online games there.</p><p>You still have to buy games that you want to play online, but there are a lot fewer online games that are worth playing than there are short and sweet single player games that you can just download for free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First of all let me say that the market for used xbox consoles just got extremely dangerous ! Microsoft needs to set up a system where you can check the status of an xbox console remotely so people can still sell consoles with confidence... 600K Xboxes are about to go up on ebay for a deal that is just too good to pass up.Secondly if you assume that you do not mind playing games offline that you have pirated , you can still beat the system .
Is that not what this is all about ? Step 1 : Buy an xbox that has been live banned for very cheap off ebay .
It has already been modded , so you dont have to pay for that.Step 2 : Download 50-60 dollar games for free and play them to your hearts content , offline.After a few games you have already made your money back from the initial purchase of the console.What if you want to play on xbox live ?
You have a live console that you do not hack and just enjoy online games there.You still have to buy games that you want to play online , but there are a lot fewer online games that are worth playing than there are short and sweet single player games that you can just download for free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First of all let me say that the market for used xbox consoles just got extremely dangerous!Microsoft needs to set up a system where you can check the status of an xbox console remotely so people can still sell consoles with confidence... 600K Xboxes are about to go up on ebay for a deal that is just too good to pass up.Secondly if you assume that you do not mind playing games offline that you have pirated, you can still beat the system.
Is that not what this is all about?Step 1: Buy an xbox that has been live banned for very cheap off ebay.
It has already been modded, so you dont have to pay for that.Step 2: Download 50-60 dollar games for free and play them to your hearts content, offline.After a few games you have already made your money back from the initial purchase of the console.What if you want to play on xbox live?
You have a live console that you do not hack and just enjoy online games there.You still have to buy games that you want to play online, but there are a lot fewer online games that are worth playing than there are short and sweet single player games that you can just download for free.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064232</id>
	<title>Re:Fun with numbers</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1257106920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then for the 75 pounds he could have joined a game rental service like Gamefly and rented those games legally, playing each one until he got bored, then returning it. And as a bonus, his money would have gone to a legitimate business instead of to some sleaze under-the-table.</p><p>Still no excuse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then for the 75 pounds he could have joined a game rental service like Gamefly and rented those games legally , playing each one until he got bored , then returning it .
And as a bonus , his money would have gone to a legitimate business instead of to some sleaze under-the-table.Still no excuse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then for the 75 pounds he could have joined a game rental service like Gamefly and rented those games legally, playing each one until he got bored, then returning it.
And as a bonus, his money would have gone to a legitimate business instead of to some sleaze under-the-table.Still no excuse.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064770</id>
	<title>Re:Fun with numbers</title>
	<author>Duradin</author>
	<datestamp>1257109080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I believe in the free-market system just as much as I believe in leprechauns, invisible flying pink unicorns and politicians that aren't corrupt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe in the free-market system just as much as I believe in leprechauns , invisible flying pink unicorns and politicians that are n't corrupt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe in the free-market system just as much as I believe in leprechauns, invisible flying pink unicorns and politicians that aren't corrupt.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30065604</id>
	<title>And, as usual, collateral damage.</title>
	<author>Guspaz</author>
	<datestamp>1257069840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it no surprise that among those 600,000 users banned (nearly 4\% of their users!) that there was some collateral damage?</p><p>One user, who reported having spent over $5200 on the xbox and XBLA, wrote to Consumerist that Microsoft banned his fianc&#233;'s unmodded console, and then treated them like criminals when they tried to get Microsoft to fix the problem:</p><p><a href="http://consumerist.com/5402056/xbox-gamer-says-he-was-banned-online-for-no-reason" title="consumerist.com">http://consumerist.com/5402056/xbox-gamer-says-he-was-banned-online-for-no-reason</a> [consumerist.com]</p><p>Linked from there is a story from another user whose xbox suffered a fan-induced RROD. Not wanting to wait nearly a Month for Microsoft to fix it, he took it to the shop to have the fan replaced, apparently tripping some sort of modification flag. Microsoft's response to him? Literally (and I quote) "But this is what you get for tampering the console." (sic).</p><p>What a disaster.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it no surprise that among those 600,000 users banned ( nearly 4 \ % of their users !
) that there was some collateral damage ? One user , who reported having spent over $ 5200 on the xbox and XBLA , wrote to Consumerist that Microsoft banned his fianc   's unmodded console , and then treated them like criminals when they tried to get Microsoft to fix the problem : http : //consumerist.com/5402056/xbox-gamer-says-he-was-banned-online-for-no-reason [ consumerist.com ] Linked from there is a story from another user whose xbox suffered a fan-induced RROD .
Not wanting to wait nearly a Month for Microsoft to fix it , he took it to the shop to have the fan replaced , apparently tripping some sort of modification flag .
Microsoft 's response to him ?
Literally ( and I quote ) " But this is what you get for tampering the console .
" ( sic ) .What a disaster .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it no surprise that among those 600,000 users banned (nearly 4\% of their users!
) that there was some collateral damage?One user, who reported having spent over $5200 on the xbox and XBLA, wrote to Consumerist that Microsoft banned his fiancé's unmodded console, and then treated them like criminals when they tried to get Microsoft to fix the problem:http://consumerist.com/5402056/xbox-gamer-says-he-was-banned-online-for-no-reason [consumerist.com]Linked from there is a story from another user whose xbox suffered a fan-induced RROD.
Not wanting to wait nearly a Month for Microsoft to fix it, he took it to the shop to have the fan replaced, apparently tripping some sort of modification flag.
Microsoft's response to him?
Literally (and I quote) "But this is what you get for tampering the console.
" (sic).What a disaster.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063790</id>
	<title>So they kicked off all the pirates now?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257105420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This three percent is one helluava mighty pirating engine ain't it?  According to Microsoft, it's this three percent that's been the cause of the falling profits all this time.  Now that they have been eliminated from being able to purchase stuff from Live...  er.... I mean, uh.... now that they've been ejected.... No....</p><p>Can we just jump to the "Profit" step now, quick-like?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This three percent is one helluava mighty pirating engine ai n't it ?
According to Microsoft , it 's this three percent that 's been the cause of the falling profits all this time .
Now that they have been eliminated from being able to purchase stuff from Live... er.... I mean , uh.... now that they 've been ejected.... No....Can we just jump to the " Profit " step now , quick-like ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This three percent is one helluava mighty pirating engine ain't it?
According to Microsoft, it's this three percent that's been the cause of the falling profits all this time.
Now that they have been eliminated from being able to purchase stuff from Live...  er.... I mean, uh.... now that they've been ejected.... No....Can we just jump to the "Profit" step now, quick-like?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064270</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>Knara</author>
	<datestamp>1257107100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Their parents should say "No. You buy it yourself. Go earn some money." And why should they lower the prices if people are buying them as it is? I guess normal supply-and-demand isn't good enough for people that don't want to pay for their entertainment. It should be cheaper for the sake of being cheaper...</p></div><p>Or, god forbid, play used games.
</p><p>I make a crapload more than some kid does, and I still rarely will pay new-release prices for a game.  I've gotta really like the previous in the series, or it's an MMO so the first month sub is wrapped into the price.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Their parents should say " No .
You buy it yourself .
Go earn some money .
" And why should they lower the prices if people are buying them as it is ?
I guess normal supply-and-demand is n't good enough for people that do n't want to pay for their entertainment .
It should be cheaper for the sake of being cheaper...Or , god forbid , play used games .
I make a crapload more than some kid does , and I still rarely will pay new-release prices for a game .
I 've got ta really like the previous in the series , or it 's an MMO so the first month sub is wrapped into the price .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Their parents should say "No.
You buy it yourself.
Go earn some money.
" And why should they lower the prices if people are buying them as it is?
I guess normal supply-and-demand isn't good enough for people that don't want to pay for their entertainment.
It should be cheaper for the sake of being cheaper...Or, god forbid, play used games.
I make a crapload more than some kid does, and I still rarely will pay new-release prices for a game.
I've gotta really like the previous in the series, or it's an MMO so the first month sub is wrapped into the price.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30113102</id>
	<title>Re:And, as usual, collateral damage.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258364580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He spent 5000$ on an xbox and xblive?  He is a fucking moron!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He spent 5000 $ on an xbox and xblive ?
He is a fucking moron ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He spent 5000$ on an xbox and xblive?
He is a fucking moron!!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30065080</id>
	<title>Re:"a small percentage"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257067320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Larger numbers give the appearance of being more of the user base. This is a common tactic when attempting to skew a news story.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Larger numbers give the appearance of being more of the user base .
This is a common tactic when attempting to skew a news story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Larger numbers give the appearance of being more of the user base.
This is a common tactic when attempting to skew a news story.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064686</id>
	<title>'Quotes'</title>
	<author>AP31R0N</author>
	<datestamp>1257108720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why are so 'many' of the 'words' in 'quotes'?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are so 'many ' of the 'words ' in 'quotes ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are so 'many' of the 'words' in 'quotes'?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064302</id>
	<title>Re:Marketing more than Customer Service</title>
	<author>Abalamahalamatandra</author>
	<datestamp>1257107160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Plausible.<br>
<br>
And anybody who goes for it deserves what they get.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm\_syndrome" title="wikipedia.org">Stockholm Syndrome</a> [wikipedia.org] much?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Plausible .
And anybody who goes for it deserves what they get .
Stockholm Syndrome [ wikipedia.org ] much ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plausible.
And anybody who goes for it deserves what they get.
Stockholm Syndrome [wikipedia.org] much?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30065862</id>
	<title>The Forza 3 connection...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257071220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft got wise and noticed that some idiot USA players and installed Forza 3 to their XBOX 360s hard drives before the initial release date of the game in the USA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft got wise and noticed that some idiot USA players and installed Forza 3 to their XBOX 360s hard drives before the initial release date of the game in the USA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft got wise and noticed that some idiot USA players and installed Forza 3 to their XBOX 360s hard drives before the initial release date of the game in the USA.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30067984</id>
	<title>Re:Start a New Business Whiners</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257083040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Is Apple evil too?</p></div></blockquote><p>Until they give tethering back to us, yes, Apple is evil too. I bet Steve Jobs eats babies.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is Apple evil too ? Until they give tethering back to us , yes , Apple is evil too .
I bet Steve Jobs eats babies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is Apple evil too?Until they give tethering back to us, yes, Apple is evil too.
I bet Steve Jobs eats babies.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30065020</id>
	<title>Re:In the TOS? It's in the freakin quick-start gui</title>
	<author>HeronBlademaster</author>
	<datestamp>1257067020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They expected it!</p></div><p>That implies that they actually read the quick-start guide or the ToS.  Most of the time, they've read neither.  (That's no excuse, of course.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They expected it ! That implies that they actually read the quick-start guide or the ToS .
Most of the time , they 've read neither .
( That 's no excuse , of course .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They expected it!That implies that they actually read the quick-start guide or the ToS.
Most of the time, they've read neither.
(That's no excuse, of course.
)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063756</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1257105360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it could be looked at as a good thing, this is not my view, but let me explain;</p><p>Microsoft lost nothing as he did not take a physical disc and he got 600 pounds of value. Some would say that this is a good thing as no wealth was lost and 600 pounds of wealth was created. Since he could not have paid, there was no lost sale.</p><p>I do not copy games without the copyright owners permission, I just wait until they are a reasonable price before I purchase. The used market is my primary source of games.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it could be looked at as a good thing , this is not my view , but let me explain ; Microsoft lost nothing as he did not take a physical disc and he got 600 pounds of value .
Some would say that this is a good thing as no wealth was lost and 600 pounds of wealth was created .
Since he could not have paid , there was no lost sale.I do not copy games without the copyright owners permission , I just wait until they are a reasonable price before I purchase .
The used market is my primary source of games .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it could be looked at as a good thing, this is not my view, but let me explain;Microsoft lost nothing as he did not take a physical disc and he got 600 pounds of value.
Some would say that this is a good thing as no wealth was lost and 600 pounds of wealth was created.
Since he could not have paid, there was no lost sale.I do not copy games without the copyright owners permission, I just wait until they are a reasonable price before I purchase.
The used market is my primary source of games.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064250</id>
	<title>Does anyone else want an open source console?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257106980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm so sick of DRM, proprietary hardware, and other BS like this from Microsoft &amp; Sony.</p><p>In this case its particularly annoying that they won't present any evidence of the supposed modding and its likely that many people who didn't mod their systems got banned.</p><p>All this content management seems like its directed at killing the secondary sales market for both consoles and video games.</p><p>This is like a one-strike law run by a big business behind closed doors to ban people from the internet.</p><p>I call shenanigans!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm so sick of DRM , proprietary hardware , and other BS like this from Microsoft &amp; Sony.In this case its particularly annoying that they wo n't present any evidence of the supposed modding and its likely that many people who did n't mod their systems got banned.All this content management seems like its directed at killing the secondary sales market for both consoles and video games.This is like a one-strike law run by a big business behind closed doors to ban people from the internet.I call shenanigans !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm so sick of DRM, proprietary hardware, and other BS like this from Microsoft &amp; Sony.In this case its particularly annoying that they won't present any evidence of the supposed modding and its likely that many people who didn't mod their systems got banned.All this content management seems like its directed at killing the secondary sales market for both consoles and video games.This is like a one-strike law run by a big business behind closed doors to ban people from the internet.I call shenanigans!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30068144</id>
	<title>And nothing of value was lost...</title>
	<author>geminidomino</author>
	<datestamp>1257084360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After the enlightening experience that was playing CoD4 and CoD5 on XBL, I've determined that it's not worth another $40-50 in January when it expires.</p><p>Too bad I can't find any softmods.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After the enlightening experience that was playing CoD4 and CoD5 on XBL , I 've determined that it 's not worth another $ 40-50 in January when it expires.Too bad I ca n't find any softmods .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After the enlightening experience that was playing CoD4 and CoD5 on XBL, I've determined that it's not worth another $40-50 in January when it expires.Too bad I can't find any softmods.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30066638</id>
	<title>Re:With every loss there is opportunity...</title>
	<author>The Moof</author>
	<datestamp>1257074400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What if you want to play on xbox live? You have a live console that you do not hack and just enjoy online games there.</p></div><p>You could get a few of the more clever modders together and come up with an alternative scheme online network scheme.  Sure, you wouldn't have all of the features of Live, but you could still build an online community.  Similar to how people made software to VPN their original XBoxes together to play Halo over the Internet via "System Link."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What if you want to play on xbox live ?
You have a live console that you do not hack and just enjoy online games there.You could get a few of the more clever modders together and come up with an alternative scheme online network scheme .
Sure , you would n't have all of the features of Live , but you could still build an online community .
Similar to how people made software to VPN their original XBoxes together to play Halo over the Internet via " System Link .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if you want to play on xbox live?
You have a live console that you do not hack and just enjoy online games there.You could get a few of the more clever modders together and come up with an alternative scheme online network scheme.
Sure, you wouldn't have all of the features of Live, but you could still build an online community.
Similar to how people made software to VPN their original XBoxes together to play Halo over the Internet via "System Link.
"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063810</id>
	<title>Wow...</title>
	<author>BillCable</author>
	<datestamp>1257105480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Talk about suicidal.  Sentiments within the gaming community are critical when it comes to consoles.  Many will see this as an attack on them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Talk about suicidal .
Sentiments within the gaming community are critical when it comes to consoles .
Many will see this as an attack on them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Talk about suicidal.
Sentiments within the gaming community are critical when it comes to consoles.
Many will see this as an attack on them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064600</id>
	<title>Re:Fun with numbers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257108360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>75 pounds buys, what, almost two games?  It's not even close to a wash.  Piracy saves the pirate a <b>substantial</b> sum of money.
<br> <br>
You can't buy 30-40 games for 600 pounds, that's only 15 games worth at retail, new.  If he's estimating he saved 600 pounds, then he's pretty much saying he would have bought ~15 of those games, which is not unrealistic.
<br> <br>
I don't even see how 30-40 games is unrealistic for a dedicated gamer.  The Xbox 360 is over three years old.  Even if he played just one game/month, he could hit 30-40 games. There are a lot of games that you could reasonably play through in a weekend or two, let alone "every night" as he supposedly plays.</htmltext>
<tokenext>75 pounds buys , what , almost two games ?
It 's not even close to a wash. Piracy saves the pirate a substantial sum of money .
You ca n't buy 30-40 games for 600 pounds , that 's only 15 games worth at retail , new .
If he 's estimating he saved 600 pounds , then he 's pretty much saying he would have bought ~ 15 of those games , which is not unrealistic .
I do n't even see how 30-40 games is unrealistic for a dedicated gamer .
The Xbox 360 is over three years old .
Even if he played just one game/month , he could hit 30-40 games .
There are a lot of games that you could reasonably play through in a weekend or two , let alone " every night " as he supposedly plays .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>75 pounds buys, what, almost two games?
It's not even close to a wash.  Piracy saves the pirate a substantial sum of money.
You can't buy 30-40 games for 600 pounds, that's only 15 games worth at retail, new.
If he's estimating he saved 600 pounds, then he's pretty much saying he would have bought ~15 of those games, which is not unrealistic.
I don't even see how 30-40 games is unrealistic for a dedicated gamer.
The Xbox 360 is over three years old.
Even if he played just one game/month, he could hit 30-40 games.
There are a lot of games that you could reasonably play through in a weekend or two, let alone "every night" as he supposedly plays.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064546</id>
	<title>Why pay full price?</title>
	<author>TimeElf1</author>
	<datestamp>1257108120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder why people go through the whole hassle of pirating games, one you might get the ban hammer and two it might ruin your XBOX. Just so you can save a few bucks? Why not just wait for six months or so then hit up eBay or your local used game store. Sure you might not be able to play the latest and greatest game with all your friends online but you also won't get your XBOX banned or ruined.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder why people go through the whole hassle of pirating games , one you might get the ban hammer and two it might ruin your XBOX .
Just so you can save a few bucks ?
Why not just wait for six months or so then hit up eBay or your local used game store .
Sure you might not be able to play the latest and greatest game with all your friends online but you also wo n't get your XBOX banned or ruined .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder why people go through the whole hassle of pirating games, one you might get the ban hammer and two it might ruin your XBOX.
Just so you can save a few bucks?
Why not just wait for six months or so then hit up eBay or your local used game store.
Sure you might not be able to play the latest and greatest game with all your friends online but you also won't get your XBOX banned or ruined.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30066298</id>
	<title>Banning non-modded consoles as modded</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257073080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have seen first hand someone get punted with an Xbox that is in no way modded, and in fact was a replacement he received from MS just a few months ago, after his first one RRoD'd.</p><p>He tried to talk to them about it, but they said their system is fool proof and will not unban him.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have seen first hand someone get punted with an Xbox that is in no way modded , and in fact was a replacement he received from MS just a few months ago , after his first one RRoD 'd.He tried to talk to them about it , but they said their system is fool proof and will not unban him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have seen first hand someone get punted with an Xbox that is in no way modded, and in fact was a replacement he received from MS just a few months ago, after his first one RRoD'd.He tried to talk to them about it, but they said their system is fool proof and will not unban him.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30086274</id>
	<title>Re:With every loss there is opportunity...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258125480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>EXACTALLY</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>EXACTALLY</tokentext>
<sentencetext>EXACTALLY</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30072024</id>
	<title>I am surprised I have not heard this argument yet.</title>
	<author>ACKyushu</author>
	<datestamp>1258038540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have gone through three Xbox 360's. With all the uproar over people getting banned, how come no one here is talking about the failure rate of the console itself? It is criminal what MS has gotten away with this time around, and believe me cheating on Live has nothing to do with modded consoles. I play online on both services (Playstation Network and Xbox Live) and there is no requirement for your console to be modded for you to glitch in an online video game.

You can cheat just fine with a lag switch and no chip in your Xbox.

The first time my Xbox 360 failed, (RROD) I sent the box in with no argument. The second time I sent it, I got an Xbox belonging to someone else that RROD'd after TEN MINUTES of play. Ten minutes out of the box and it was useless. The third time it happened, I started to think how this console has over a fifty percent failure rate. Guess what? It is cheaper to have it repaired and modded at the same time. The last time I called Microsoft about the repair, I asked them to send me a new unit out of the box, or I was going to have it repaired by a competent technician and have the console modded. They sent me a cardboard box with an address label, I modded the  console. Nothing has yet happened, I have a modded console and play online all the time.

Why are people here defending a company that put out something as badly designed as an Xbox 360? I have yet to hear this part of the argument and I am pretty damn sure most people who have one have either had this happen to them or know someone who does.  To be completely honest, I pirate games all the time and could care less if I got banned or not. If I truly like a game, I buy it for Playstation. I simply will not support Microsoft after all the frustration and feel just fine about that decision. Has anyone here had to go through one RROD or more and had to deal with calling up the Microsoft Voicemail Helpline only to hear, "Well, to be honest, even though our failure rate was scraping 85 percent when we first shipped them, the numbers are significantly less now. If you want an extended warranty, that is $49.00".

"Well, If I got it modded...." Before anyone starts in on me. I have a lot of games I bought legitimately and play often, I never cheat and still use Xbox live primarily for private matches with just a close circle of friends and the Xbox for streaming media from my computer. When Microsoft starts using single use codes so legitimately block you from selling your disc back to a brick and mortar store a lot of people might see my side of the argument.

It's on it's way.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have gone through three Xbox 360 's .
With all the uproar over people getting banned , how come no one here is talking about the failure rate of the console itself ?
It is criminal what MS has gotten away with this time around , and believe me cheating on Live has nothing to do with modded consoles .
I play online on both services ( Playstation Network and Xbox Live ) and there is no requirement for your console to be modded for you to glitch in an online video game .
You can cheat just fine with a lag switch and no chip in your Xbox .
The first time my Xbox 360 failed , ( RROD ) I sent the box in with no argument .
The second time I sent it , I got an Xbox belonging to someone else that RROD 'd after TEN MINUTES of play .
Ten minutes out of the box and it was useless .
The third time it happened , I started to think how this console has over a fifty percent failure rate .
Guess what ?
It is cheaper to have it repaired and modded at the same time .
The last time I called Microsoft about the repair , I asked them to send me a new unit out of the box , or I was going to have it repaired by a competent technician and have the console modded .
They sent me a cardboard box with an address label , I modded the console .
Nothing has yet happened , I have a modded console and play online all the time .
Why are people here defending a company that put out something as badly designed as an Xbox 360 ?
I have yet to hear this part of the argument and I am pretty damn sure most people who have one have either had this happen to them or know someone who does .
To be completely honest , I pirate games all the time and could care less if I got banned or not .
If I truly like a game , I buy it for Playstation .
I simply will not support Microsoft after all the frustration and feel just fine about that decision .
Has anyone here had to go through one RROD or more and had to deal with calling up the Microsoft Voicemail Helpline only to hear , " Well , to be honest , even though our failure rate was scraping 85 percent when we first shipped them , the numbers are significantly less now .
If you want an extended warranty , that is $ 49.00 " .
" Well , If I got it modded.... " Before anyone starts in on me .
I have a lot of games I bought legitimately and play often , I never cheat and still use Xbox live primarily for private matches with just a close circle of friends and the Xbox for streaming media from my computer .
When Microsoft starts using single use codes so legitimately block you from selling your disc back to a brick and mortar store a lot of people might see my side of the argument .
It 's on it 's way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have gone through three Xbox 360's.
With all the uproar over people getting banned, how come no one here is talking about the failure rate of the console itself?
It is criminal what MS has gotten away with this time around, and believe me cheating on Live has nothing to do with modded consoles.
I play online on both services (Playstation Network and Xbox Live) and there is no requirement for your console to be modded for you to glitch in an online video game.
You can cheat just fine with a lag switch and no chip in your Xbox.
The first time my Xbox 360 failed, (RROD) I sent the box in with no argument.
The second time I sent it, I got an Xbox belonging to someone else that RROD'd after TEN MINUTES of play.
Ten minutes out of the box and it was useless.
The third time it happened, I started to think how this console has over a fifty percent failure rate.
Guess what?
It is cheaper to have it repaired and modded at the same time.
The last time I called Microsoft about the repair, I asked them to send me a new unit out of the box, or I was going to have it repaired by a competent technician and have the console modded.
They sent me a cardboard box with an address label, I modded the  console.
Nothing has yet happened, I have a modded console and play online all the time.
Why are people here defending a company that put out something as badly designed as an Xbox 360?
I have yet to hear this part of the argument and I am pretty damn sure most people who have one have either had this happen to them or know someone who does.
To be completely honest, I pirate games all the time and could care less if I got banned or not.
If I truly like a game, I buy it for Playstation.
I simply will not support Microsoft after all the frustration and feel just fine about that decision.
Has anyone here had to go through one RROD or more and had to deal with calling up the Microsoft Voicemail Helpline only to hear, "Well, to be honest, even though our failure rate was scraping 85 percent when we first shipped them, the numbers are significantly less now.
If you want an extended warranty, that is $49.00".
"Well, If I got it modded...." Before anyone starts in on me.
I have a lot of games I bought legitimately and play often, I never cheat and still use Xbox live primarily for private matches with just a close circle of friends and the Xbox for streaming media from my computer.
When Microsoft starts using single use codes so legitimately block you from selling your disc back to a brick and mortar store a lot of people might see my side of the argument.
It's on it's way.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064536</id>
	<title>Re:Anglo-American law is strange</title>
	<author>Ogive17</author>
	<datestamp>1257108060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They aren't disabling the consoles, just kicking them off XBox Live.  There is nothing wrong with that, no one guarenteed them access to XBox Live.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They are n't disabling the consoles , just kicking them off XBox Live .
There is nothing wrong with that , no one guarenteed them access to XBox Live .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They aren't disabling the consoles, just kicking them off XBox Live.
There is nothing wrong with that, no one guarenteed them access to XBox Live.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063976</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>CannonballHead</author>
	<datestamp>1257106020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yeah... I don't think eldavojohn was advocating stealing... quite the opposite.</p></div><p>I don't think so either.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah... I do n't think eldavojohn was advocating stealing... quite the opposite.I do n't think so either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah... I don't think eldavojohn was advocating stealing... quite the opposite.I don't think so either.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30069586</id>
	<title>Re:Anglo-American law is strange</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1257099240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I cant believe I'm about to defend MS but...<blockquote><div><p>For an EU Xbox user to be <b>disconnected from services</b> MS</p></div></blockquote><p>

Being disconnected from services for violating the T&amp;S is perfectly legal in the EU. It's not like MS has remotely disabled the console or software, they simply prevent them from connecting to a remote service provided by Microsoft.<br> <br>

If MS was sending a goon around to repossess a modded console and kick your puppy then they are doing something illegal.<br> <br>

I believe South Africa has a law about not being permitted to deny service to people that came in after the end of Apartheid but a Saffa should know more about that then me.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I cant believe I 'm about to defend MS but...For an EU Xbox user to be disconnected from services MS Being disconnected from services for violating the T&amp;S is perfectly legal in the EU .
It 's not like MS has remotely disabled the console or software , they simply prevent them from connecting to a remote service provided by Microsoft .
If MS was sending a goon around to repossess a modded console and kick your puppy then they are doing something illegal .
I believe South Africa has a law about not being permitted to deny service to people that came in after the end of Apartheid but a Saffa should know more about that then me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I cant believe I'm about to defend MS but...For an EU Xbox user to be disconnected from services MS

Being disconnected from services for violating the T&amp;S is perfectly legal in the EU.
It's not like MS has remotely disabled the console or software, they simply prevent them from connecting to a remote service provided by Microsoft.
If MS was sending a goon around to repossess a modded console and kick your puppy then they are doing something illegal.
I believe South Africa has a law about not being permitted to deny service to people that came in after the end of Apartheid but a Saffa should know more about that then me.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30069146</id>
	<title>Re:With every loss there is opportunity...</title>
	<author>kayoshiii</author>
	<datestamp>1257093780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Given the overall hardware reliability of the XBox 360 I would say that purchasing a second hand one has *always* been a great risk.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Given the overall hardware reliability of the XBox 360 I would say that purchasing a second hand one has * always * been a great risk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given the overall hardware reliability of the XBox 360 I would say that purchasing a second hand one has *always* been a great risk.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30073526</id>
	<title>Why not buy used.</title>
	<author>crafton</author>
	<datestamp>1258044900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A month or two after the games release you can pick up most games second hand for around the &pound;10/&pound;15 mark, and some as low as 50p.<br>If you're willing to wait a year or so it's possible to pick them up new for not much more.<br>I've probably forked out &pound;200 for a library of around 20 games which I could sell for the same price.<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A month or two after the games release you can pick up most games second hand for around the   10/   15 mark , and some as low as 50p.If you 're willing to wait a year or so it 's possible to pick them up new for not much more.I 've probably forked out   200 for a library of around 20 games which I could sell for the same price .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>A month or two after the games release you can pick up most games second hand for around the £10/£15 mark, and some as low as 50p.If you're willing to wait a year or so it's possible to pick them up new for not much more.I've probably forked out £200 for a library of around 20 games which I could sell for the same price.
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30065884</id>
	<title>Re:"a small percentage"</title>
	<author>Alanbly</author>
	<datestamp>1257071400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Three percent of the world uses Linux. Would you still be trivializing if Microsoft found a way of disabling the internet connection of that 3\%?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Three percent of the world uses Linux .
Would you still be trivializing if Microsoft found a way of disabling the internet connection of that 3 \ % ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Three percent of the world uses Linux.
Would you still be trivializing if Microsoft found a way of disabling the internet connection of that 3\%?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30065682</id>
	<title>Re:Anglo-American law is strange</title>
	<author>Pop69</author>
	<datestamp>1257070260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are two separate legal systems in the UK, Scots law and English law

<br> <br>

Scots law does in fact have a basis in Roman law</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are two separate legal systems in the UK , Scots law and English law Scots law does in fact have a basis in Roman law</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are two separate legal systems in the UK, Scots law and English law

 

Scots law does in fact have a basis in Roman law</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064138</id>
	<title>Sources? I call BS</title>
	<author>Krazy Kanuck</author>
	<datestamp>1257106500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Microsoft ban 600,000 consoles last night. I guess it's pretty serious."</p><p>Will tomorrow bring us a story how MS's holiday goal is 1,000,000?  Internet journalism at it's finest.</p><p><a href="http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51518" title="team-xecuter.com" rel="nofollow">http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51518</a> [team-xecuter.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" My best friend 's sister 's boyfriend 's brother 's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who 's going with the girl who saw Microsoft ban 600,000 consoles last night .
I guess it 's pretty serious .
" Will tomorrow bring us a story how MS 's holiday goal is 1,000,000 ?
Internet journalism at it 's finest.http : //team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php ? t = 51518 [ team-xecuter.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Microsoft ban 600,000 consoles last night.
I guess it's pretty serious.
"Will tomorrow bring us a story how MS's holiday goal is 1,000,000?
Internet journalism at it's finest.http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51518 [team-xecuter.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30067570</id>
	<title>excellent</title>
	<author>buddyglass</author>
	<datestamp>1257080040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This story just oozes WIN.  Whether you agree or disagree with Microsoft's stance here, it's pretty impressive that they had the balls to disconnect 3\% of their entire subscriber base.  Kudos to them for putting their money where their mouth is.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This story just oozes WIN .
Whether you agree or disagree with Microsoft 's stance here , it 's pretty impressive that they had the balls to disconnect 3 \ % of their entire subscriber base .
Kudos to them for putting their money where their mouth is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This story just oozes WIN.
Whether you agree or disagree with Microsoft's stance here, it's pretty impressive that they had the balls to disconnect 3\% of their entire subscriber base.
Kudos to them for putting their money where their mouth is.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064436</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257107640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wonder if these 600k users are the ones that had no choice but to modify their xbox's in order to fix because Microsoft wouldn't repair them. Just maybe they decide to MOD them instead of temporary fixes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wonder if these 600k users are the ones that had no choice but to modify their xbox 's in order to fix because Microsoft would n't repair them .
Just maybe they decide to MOD them instead of temporary fixes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wonder if these 600k users are the ones that had no choice but to modify their xbox's in order to fix because Microsoft wouldn't repair them.
Just maybe they decide to MOD them instead of temporary fixes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30067938</id>
	<title>Here's a novel idea...</title>
	<author>sherman42</author>
	<datestamp>1257082620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>When I was a teen (not too long ago, I'm only 22 as of writing this), I couldn't afford every game I wanted. You know what I did? Went down to Blockbuster and paid a couple bucks to hire it. Sometimes I was lucky, and one of my friends owned a game I wanted, and would let me borrow it. A few times, we would even plan so we each got different games, so we could trade them when done.

Now, I have a younger brother (13yo) who burns every PS2 and XBox game he can. I'd bet the farm the majority of these haven't seen more than a couple of hours of playtime. They have absolutely no value to him. I asked him how many games he's beaten, start to finish, and the closest he could think of was 'unlocked all the characters in arcade mode on Tekken'.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was a teen ( not too long ago , I 'm only 22 as of writing this ) , I could n't afford every game I wanted .
You know what I did ?
Went down to Blockbuster and paid a couple bucks to hire it .
Sometimes I was lucky , and one of my friends owned a game I wanted , and would let me borrow it .
A few times , we would even plan so we each got different games , so we could trade them when done .
Now , I have a younger brother ( 13yo ) who burns every PS2 and XBox game he can .
I 'd bet the farm the majority of these have n't seen more than a couple of hours of playtime .
They have absolutely no value to him .
I asked him how many games he 's beaten , start to finish , and the closest he could think of was 'unlocked all the characters in arcade mode on Tekken' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was a teen (not too long ago, I'm only 22 as of writing this), I couldn't afford every game I wanted.
You know what I did?
Went down to Blockbuster and paid a couple bucks to hire it.
Sometimes I was lucky, and one of my friends owned a game I wanted, and would let me borrow it.
A few times, we would even plan so we each got different games, so we could trade them when done.
Now, I have a younger brother (13yo) who burns every PS2 and XBox game he can.
I'd bet the farm the majority of these haven't seen more than a couple of hours of playtime.
They have absolutely no value to him.
I asked him how many games he's beaten, start to finish, and the closest he could think of was 'unlocked all the characters in arcade mode on Tekken'.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30071020</id>
	<title>Did your old version of os X stop working ?!?</title>
	<author>freaker\_TuC</author>
	<datestamp>1258029180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your PPC version of os X <b>did not stop working</b>, unlike Mickeysoft decided to do with it's customers<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your PPC version of os X did not stop working , unlike Mickeysoft decided to do with it 's customers .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your PPC version of os X did not stop working, unlike Mickeysoft decided to do with it's customers ...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064048</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064544</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>Scared Rabbit</author>
	<datestamp>1257108120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've modded  a couple of my systems over the years.  Most notably my sega saturn?  The main reason why?  As games get older and older, and become harder and harder to find, I'd rather play my backups than originals as it gets harder and more expensive to replace them.  This is especially true of optical media where one small mishap can render a game unplayable.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've modded a couple of my systems over the years .
Most notably my sega saturn ?
The main reason why ?
As games get older and older , and become harder and harder to find , I 'd rather play my backups than originals as it gets harder and more expensive to replace them .
This is especially true of optical media where one small mishap can render a game unplayable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've modded  a couple of my systems over the years.
Most notably my sega saturn?
The main reason why?
As games get older and older, and become harder and harder to find, I'd rather play my backups than originals as it gets harder and more expensive to replace them.
This is especially true of optical media where one small mishap can render a game unplayable.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063894</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064790</id>
	<title>Right in time for Christmas</title>
	<author>lucifron</author>
	<datestamp>1257109080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sure the timing isn't accidental. Whole lot of kids out there begging their parents to replace that bricked console now..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure the timing is n't accidental .
Whole lot of kids out there begging their parents to replace that bricked console now. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure the timing isn't accidental.
Whole lot of kids out there begging their parents to replace that bricked console now..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063634</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257104880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hum.  Out of curiosity, does the slashdot crowd think copying 30-40 games and "saving &pound;600" is good?  Wouldn't that actually be considered<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... basically stealing?  Maybe he couldn't afford &pound;600 of games.  I don't feel sorry for him.  Not being able to afford something/something being too expensive doesn't mean you should get it illegally (and it's ok, as long as you couldn't afford it).</p><p>This is slightly OT but not completely... Microsoft is protecting their income flow by trying to keep people from getting games for free when they are supposed to pay for them.  IMO, that's a good thing.  Microsoft should be allowed to do that, and if someone can't afford the game<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I dunno, go get a job (or try, heh) or *gasp* go without the game for a few more months...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hum .
Out of curiosity , does the slashdot crowd think copying 30-40 games and " saving   600 " is good ?
Would n't that actually be considered ... basically stealing ?
Maybe he could n't afford   600 of games .
I do n't feel sorry for him .
Not being able to afford something/something being too expensive does n't mean you should get it illegally ( and it 's ok , as long as you could n't afford it ) .This is slightly OT but not completely... Microsoft is protecting their income flow by trying to keep people from getting games for free when they are supposed to pay for them .
IMO , that 's a good thing .
Microsoft should be allowed to do that , and if someone ca n't afford the game ... I dunno , go get a job ( or try , heh ) or * gasp * go without the game for a few more months.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hum.
Out of curiosity, does the slashdot crowd think copying 30-40 games and "saving £600" is good?
Wouldn't that actually be considered ... basically stealing?
Maybe he couldn't afford £600 of games.
I don't feel sorry for him.
Not being able to afford something/something being too expensive doesn't mean you should get it illegally (and it's ok, as long as you couldn't afford it).This is slightly OT but not completely... Microsoft is protecting their income flow by trying to keep people from getting games for free when they are supposed to pay for them.
IMO, that's a good thing.
Microsoft should be allowed to do that, and if someone can't afford the game ... I dunno, go get a job (or try, heh) or *gasp* go without the game for a few more months...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30083694</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>PaganRitual</author>
	<datestamp>1258050000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah it becomes frankly embarassing the logic these retards employ in an attempt to validate pirating stuff.</p><p>I present exhibit A) : <a href="http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1440056&amp;cid=30070586" title="slashdot.org">http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1440056&amp;cid=30070586</a> [slashdot.org] which I don't want to respond directly to because I don't need this idiot thinking I'm even remotely respecting his opinion by responding to it. And I don't want to feed the trolls and so on.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I have one: the benefit to the pirate (of the one copy) exceeds the loss to the makers of the game of that one lost potential sale. That is, if we sum up everybody's utility, this is a net gain.</p></div><p>Entitlement generation at it's finest.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Because once the game exists, the price of each additional copy is so close to zero that the consumers are willing to bear it amongst themselves (see bittorrent, generous seeders, TPB, etc.).</p></div><p>This guy is seriously presenting this stuff as valid arguments, this isn't making faces and fart noises while you attempt reasonable discussion; this is shitting your pants and offering around samples while you laugh manicially.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah it becomes frankly embarassing the logic these retards employ in an attempt to validate pirating stuff.I present exhibit A ) : http : //games.slashdot.org/comments.pl ? sid = 1440056&amp;cid = 30070586 [ slashdot.org ] which I do n't want to respond directly to because I do n't need this idiot thinking I 'm even remotely respecting his opinion by responding to it .
And I do n't want to feed the trolls and so on.I have one : the benefit to the pirate ( of the one copy ) exceeds the loss to the makers of the game of that one lost potential sale .
That is , if we sum up everybody 's utility , this is a net gain.Entitlement generation at it 's finest.Because once the game exists , the price of each additional copy is so close to zero that the consumers are willing to bear it amongst themselves ( see bittorrent , generous seeders , TPB , etc .
) .This guy is seriously presenting this stuff as valid arguments , this is n't making faces and fart noises while you attempt reasonable discussion ; this is shitting your pants and offering around samples while you laugh manicially .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah it becomes frankly embarassing the logic these retards employ in an attempt to validate pirating stuff.I present exhibit A) : http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1440056&amp;cid=30070586 [slashdot.org] which I don't want to respond directly to because I don't need this idiot thinking I'm even remotely respecting his opinion by responding to it.
And I don't want to feed the trolls and so on.I have one: the benefit to the pirate (of the one copy) exceeds the loss to the makers of the game of that one lost potential sale.
That is, if we sum up everybody's utility, this is a net gain.Entitlement generation at it's finest.Because once the game exists, the price of each additional copy is so close to zero that the consumers are willing to bear it amongst themselves (see bittorrent, generous seeders, TPB, etc.
).This guy is seriously presenting this stuff as valid arguments, this isn't making faces and fart noises while you attempt reasonable discussion; this is shitting your pants and offering around samples while you laugh manicially.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063844</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30068404</id>
	<title>MS not only ban the Live connection...</title>
	<author>Neo\_Lee</author>
	<datestamp>1257086580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Has anyone mentioned that MS not only ban the Live connection, but ban the 'Install to hard disk' function as well, even when the hard disk is officially from MS?

You know the noise of reading DVD on 360 console...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Has anyone mentioned that MS not only ban the Live connection , but ban the 'Install to hard disk ' function as well , even when the hard disk is officially from MS ?
You know the noise of reading DVD on 360 console.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has anyone mentioned that MS not only ban the Live connection, but ban the 'Install to hard disk' function as well, even when the hard disk is officially from MS?
You know the noise of reading DVD on 360 console...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30072050</id>
	<title>Re:In the TOS? It's in the freakin quick-start gui</title>
	<author>jittles</author>
	<datestamp>1258038720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>To my knowledge, no one has cracked the 360 to the point where you can run your own homebrew (outside of XNA).  There fore the only reason to mod your xbox is: 3. Steal games.</htmltext>
<tokenext>To my knowledge , no one has cracked the 360 to the point where you can run your own homebrew ( outside of XNA ) .
There fore the only reason to mod your xbox is : 3 .
Steal games .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To my knowledge, no one has cracked the 360 to the point where you can run your own homebrew (outside of XNA).
There fore the only reason to mod your xbox is: 3.
Steal games.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064060</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30068568</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone else want an open source console?</title>
	<author>Spit</author>
	<datestamp>1257088080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>AAA games are going to be non-free for a long time, unlike most other genres of software which don't require millions of dollars to create assets for.</p><p>I realize that indulging in games requires losing some freedom. I bought a console to play games on to keep that shit away from my PC, which works fine for everything else. This doesn't bother me too much because games are a luxury and I did fine without them in the 70s, whereas my PC is essential to operating in the modern world.</p><p>One advantage of the consoles' strict policies is it also keeps the cheaters and jerks to a minimum.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>AAA games are going to be non-free for a long time , unlike most other genres of software which do n't require millions of dollars to create assets for.I realize that indulging in games requires losing some freedom .
I bought a console to play games on to keep that shit away from my PC , which works fine for everything else .
This does n't bother me too much because games are a luxury and I did fine without them in the 70s , whereas my PC is essential to operating in the modern world.One advantage of the consoles ' strict policies is it also keeps the cheaters and jerks to a minimum .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AAA games are going to be non-free for a long time, unlike most other genres of software which don't require millions of dollars to create assets for.I realize that indulging in games requires losing some freedom.
I bought a console to play games on to keep that shit away from my PC, which works fine for everything else.
This doesn't bother me too much because games are a luxury and I did fine without them in the 70s, whereas my PC is essential to operating in the modern world.One advantage of the consoles' strict policies is it also keeps the cheaters and jerks to a minimum.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064250</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30068880</id>
	<title>Re:With every loss there is opportunity...</title>
	<author>Stan92057</author>
	<datestamp>1257091020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why sell the consoles?? they can still pay the games they payed for and stole too. They just cant play them online.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why sell the consoles ? ?
they can still pay the games they payed for and stole too .
They just cant play them online .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why sell the consoles??
they can still pay the games they payed for and stole too.
They just cant play them online.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063952</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30083702</id>
	<title>As a long time pirater of X360 games...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258050060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>..it's just tough luck if you get banned. Stop whining.</p><p>Really.</p><p>Enough already.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..it 's just tough luck if you get banned .
Stop whining.Really.Enough already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..it's just tough luck if you get banned.
Stop whining.Really.Enough already.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30070478</id>
	<title>Duh? Ever heard of a loss-leader?</title>
	<author>cbope</author>
	<datestamp>1258021020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't it common knowledge that consoles are sold as a loss-leader because the money is made back on games and games licensing? You want cheaper games, buy a PC. Of course these days, the cost difference is negligible on many popular games.</p><p>Consoles have now been around long enough that this must be common knowledge. Not to mention that consoles are a closed platform. You try to modify the platform and of course you are not going to be able to play with anyone else. Besides, if you are modding your console to play pirated/copied games, do you really think the manufacturer will go along nicely with that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't it common knowledge that consoles are sold as a loss-leader because the money is made back on games and games licensing ?
You want cheaper games , buy a PC .
Of course these days , the cost difference is negligible on many popular games.Consoles have now been around long enough that this must be common knowledge .
Not to mention that consoles are a closed platform .
You try to modify the platform and of course you are not going to be able to play with anyone else .
Besides , if you are modding your console to play pirated/copied games , do you really think the manufacturer will go along nicely with that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't it common knowledge that consoles are sold as a loss-leader because the money is made back on games and games licensing?
You want cheaper games, buy a PC.
Of course these days, the cost difference is negligible on many popular games.Consoles have now been around long enough that this must be common knowledge.
Not to mention that consoles are a closed platform.
You try to modify the platform and of course you are not going to be able to play with anyone else.
Besides, if you are modding your console to play pirated/copied games, do you really think the manufacturer will go along nicely with that?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30118488</id>
	<title>blah blah</title>
	<author>l0l0\_ph0r3v3r</author>
	<datestamp>1258399020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>blah blah</htmltext>
<tokenext>blah blah</tokentext>
<sentencetext>blah blah</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30084544</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>xororand</author>
	<datestamp>1258105740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Hum.  Out of curiosity, does the slashdot crowd think copying 30-40 games and "saving &pound;600" is good?  Wouldn't that actually be considered<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... basically stealing? </p></div><p>Copyright infringement is not stealing.<br>Copyright infringement is not stealing.<br>Copyright infringement is not stealing.</p><p>Seriously, it is not, regardless of whatever your opinion of copyright infringement is, it is not stealing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hum .
Out of curiosity , does the slashdot crowd think copying 30-40 games and " saving   600 " is good ?
Would n't that actually be considered ... basically stealing ?
Copyright infringement is not stealing.Copyright infringement is not stealing.Copyright infringement is not stealing.Seriously , it is not , regardless of whatever your opinion of copyright infringement is , it is not stealing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hum.
Out of curiosity, does the slashdot crowd think copying 30-40 games and "saving £600" is good?
Wouldn't that actually be considered ... basically stealing?
Copyright infringement is not stealing.Copyright infringement is not stealing.Copyright infringement is not stealing.Seriously, it is not, regardless of whatever your opinion of copyright infringement is, it is not stealing.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064412</id>
	<title>Media industry FUD settled in our heads?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257107580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Timothy, if you ever so much as mention that p-word in the context of copyright again, I'll seriously come over and personally gonna kick your ass! I mean it!<br>You can sue me. But you can't avoid it!<br>Fuckin' idiots! You all heard that FUD word so often, that now it became normal to you, and you repeat it yourself as if it were nothing!<br>Every single time you make someone read that word, you throw another log on the big fire of the media industry, to burn free thought and art as we know it!<br>So every time you use that word, art and freedom die a little. And YOU are guilty!<br>The day when I will just let it slide, when someone uses media industry FUD, is the day when I die! But I won't die without taking the guilty ones with me!</p><p>There. With all you cattle living your lives in a walking daze, that FINALLY had to be said!<br>The funny thing is, you probably will mod me down for it, because if I attack them, to save you, you attack me to save them. Fuckin' brilliant!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Timothy , if you ever so much as mention that p-word in the context of copyright again , I 'll seriously come over and personally gon na kick your ass !
I mean it ! You can sue me .
But you ca n't avoid it ! Fuckin ' idiots !
You all heard that FUD word so often , that now it became normal to you , and you repeat it yourself as if it were nothing ! Every single time you make someone read that word , you throw another log on the big fire of the media industry , to burn free thought and art as we know it ! So every time you use that word , art and freedom die a little .
And YOU are guilty ! The day when I will just let it slide , when someone uses media industry FUD , is the day when I die !
But I wo n't die without taking the guilty ones with me ! There .
With all you cattle living your lives in a walking daze , that FINALLY had to be said ! The funny thing is , you probably will mod me down for it , because if I attack them , to save you , you attack me to save them .
Fuckin ' brilliant !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Timothy, if you ever so much as mention that p-word in the context of copyright again, I'll seriously come over and personally gonna kick your ass!
I mean it!You can sue me.
But you can't avoid it!Fuckin' idiots!
You all heard that FUD word so often, that now it became normal to you, and you repeat it yourself as if it were nothing!Every single time you make someone read that word, you throw another log on the big fire of the media industry, to burn free thought and art as we know it!So every time you use that word, art and freedom die a little.
And YOU are guilty!The day when I will just let it slide, when someone uses media industry FUD, is the day when I die!
But I won't die without taking the guilty ones with me!There.
With all you cattle living your lives in a walking daze, that FINALLY had to be said!The funny thing is, you probably will mod me down for it, because if I attack them, to save you, you attack me to save them.
Fuckin' brilliant!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30118604</id>
	<title>Long hail Microsoft</title>
	<author>l0l0\_ph0r3v3r</author>
	<datestamp>1258399380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sieg Heil!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sieg Heil !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sieg Heil!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064786</id>
	<title>Re:Fun with numbers</title>
	<author>LandDolphin</author>
	<datestamp>1257109080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> I'll bet money he plays just a few games. Now do your math. It's close to a wash at 75 pounds.</p></div><p>

Except that 75 Pounds didnt go towards legally purchasign a game.  It went to the person who mod'ed the X-Box.  So it's not a wash for MS.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll bet money he plays just a few games .
Now do your math .
It 's close to a wash at 75 pounds .
Except that 75 Pounds didnt go towards legally purchasign a game .
It went to the person who mod'ed the X-Box .
So it 's not a wash for MS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I'll bet money he plays just a few games.
Now do your math.
It's close to a wash at 75 pounds.
Except that 75 Pounds didnt go towards legally purchasign a game.
It went to the person who mod'ed the X-Box.
So it's not a wash for MS.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064070</id>
	<title>Start a New Business Whiners</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257106320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is really simple. You don't like the product, don't buy it. Microsoft hasn't misrepresented a thing here. It's kind of the same thing as the hackintosh, actually. Is Apple evil too? If so you have a real simple remedy -- don't buy it. These companies are within their rights entirely. If someone wants to sell a different kind of game console and a different kind of game network where games are cheaper and mods are allowed, then fine. Maybe there's a business there. Maybe this is your big chance. Go start that business and stop whining.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is really simple .
You do n't like the product , do n't buy it .
Microsoft has n't misrepresented a thing here .
It 's kind of the same thing as the hackintosh , actually .
Is Apple evil too ?
If so you have a real simple remedy -- do n't buy it .
These companies are within their rights entirely .
If someone wants to sell a different kind of game console and a different kind of game network where games are cheaper and mods are allowed , then fine .
Maybe there 's a business there .
Maybe this is your big chance .
Go start that business and stop whining .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is really simple.
You don't like the product, don't buy it.
Microsoft hasn't misrepresented a thing here.
It's kind of the same thing as the hackintosh, actually.
Is Apple evil too?
If so you have a real simple remedy -- don't buy it.
These companies are within their rights entirely.
If someone wants to sell a different kind of game console and a different kind of game network where games are cheaper and mods are allowed, then fine.
Maybe there's a business there.
Maybe this is your big chance.
Go start that business and stop whining.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30068732</id>
	<title>Re:With every loss there is opportunity...</title>
	<author>BBF\_BBF</author>
	<datestamp>1257089520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd think that the dudes claiming to "Mod for the purposes of freedom, not pirating" should be ecstatic... there will be a flood of cheap Xbox 360's for them to use for their non-illegal purposes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd think that the dudes claiming to " Mod for the purposes of freedom , not pirating " should be ecstatic... there will be a flood of cheap Xbox 360 's for them to use for their non-illegal purposes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd think that the dudes claiming to "Mod for the purposes of freedom, not pirating" should be ecstatic... there will be a flood of cheap Xbox 360's for them to use for their non-illegal purposes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063952</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064048</id>
	<title>Sauce for the Goose</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257106260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Where have I heard this before?

<a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/11/11/1336200/OS-X-Update-Officially-Kills-Intel-Atom-Support" title="slashdot.org">http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/11/11/1336200/OS-X-Update-Officially-Kills-Intel-Atom-Support</a> [slashdot.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where have I heard this before ?
http : //hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/11/11/1336200/OS-X-Update-Officially-Kills-Intel-Atom-Support [ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where have I heard this before?
http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/11/11/1336200/OS-X-Update-Officially-Kills-Intel-Atom-Support [slashdot.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30068488</id>
	<title>Re:With every loss there is opportunity...</title>
	<author>Spatial</author>
	<datestamp>1257087240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Buying a used 360 was already dangerous because of the rather low reliabiliy of the hardware.  Relatively speaking it's only a little worse now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Buying a used 360 was already dangerous because of the rather low reliabiliy of the hardware .
Relatively speaking it 's only a little worse now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Buying a used 360 was already dangerous because of the rather low reliabiliy of the hardware.
Relatively speaking it's only a little worse now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063952</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064434</id>
	<title>Obligatory video link...</title>
	<author>Temujin\_12</author>
	<datestamp>1257107640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfkDxF2kn1I" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfkDxF2kn1I</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = sfkDxF2kn1I [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfkDxF2kn1I [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064060</id>
	<title>In the TOS? It's in the freakin quick-start guide!</title>
	<author>Nakarti</author>
	<datestamp>1257106260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are three reasons to mod your Xbox:<br>1. Turn it into a cheap PC</p><p>2. Play homebrew software (basically #1)</p><p>3. Steal games.</p><p>All of these rely on the same method: replace or disable protections on the OS or base firmware. It's in the quick start guide(the thing that tells you what is and isn't included) that if you mod your xbox, you will not be able to play Live! and may not be able to play the games you own.<br>So why the hell is anyone surprised about the ban?<br>And why the hell is anyone even angry about the ban? They expected it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are three reasons to mod your Xbox : 1 .
Turn it into a cheap PC2 .
Play homebrew software ( basically # 1 ) 3 .
Steal games.All of these rely on the same method : replace or disable protections on the OS or base firmware .
It 's in the quick start guide ( the thing that tells you what is and is n't included ) that if you mod your xbox , you will not be able to play Live !
and may not be able to play the games you own.So why the hell is anyone surprised about the ban ? And why the hell is anyone even angry about the ban ?
They expected it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are three reasons to mod your Xbox:1.
Turn it into a cheap PC2.
Play homebrew software (basically #1)3.
Steal games.All of these rely on the same method: replace or disable protections on the OS or base firmware.
It's in the quick start guide(the thing that tells you what is and isn't included) that if you mod your xbox, you will not be able to play Live!
and may not be able to play the games you own.So why the hell is anyone surprised about the ban?And why the hell is anyone even angry about the ban?
They expected it!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064402</id>
	<title>Re:"a small percentage"</title>
	<author>MikeBabcock</author>
	<datestamp>1257107580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And there are others who allow alternate OS installations on their hardware purposefully.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And there are others who allow alternate OS installations on their hardware purposefully .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And there are others who allow alternate OS installations on their hardware purposefully.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30066800</id>
	<title>News?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257075420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Live ban isn't news, it's been happening for a long time now. The real story, which the author has missed, is that along with the Live ban, Microsoft also now disabled the capability of 360s to use a hard drive. There was no mention of this in their terms of service or 360 manuals. In addition to this, MS corrupted the user's saved data on the disk.</p><p>So...the real story could read something like: Microsoft corrupts user-data and breaks hard-drive compatibility on modded Xbox 360s without prior notice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Live ban is n't news , it 's been happening for a long time now .
The real story , which the author has missed , is that along with the Live ban , Microsoft also now disabled the capability of 360s to use a hard drive .
There was no mention of this in their terms of service or 360 manuals .
In addition to this , MS corrupted the user 's saved data on the disk.So...the real story could read something like : Microsoft corrupts user-data and breaks hard-drive compatibility on modded Xbox 360s without prior notice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Live ban isn't news, it's been happening for a long time now.
The real story, which the author has missed, is that along with the Live ban, Microsoft also now disabled the capability of 360s to use a hard drive.
There was no mention of this in their terms of service or 360 manuals.
In addition to this, MS corrupted the user's saved data on the disk.So...the real story could read something like: Microsoft corrupts user-data and breaks hard-drive compatibility on modded Xbox 360s without prior notice.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30067936</id>
	<title>Re:In the TOS? It's in the freakin quick-start gui</title>
	<author>bloodhawk</author>
	<datestamp>1257082560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There are three reasons to mod your Xbox:
1. Turn it into a cheap PC

2. Play homebrew software (basically #1)

3. Steal games.

All of these rely on the same method: replace or disable protections on the OS or base firmware. It's in the quick start guide(the thing that tells you what is and isn't included) that if you mod your xbox, you will not be able to play Live! and may not be able to play the games you own.
So why the hell is anyone surprised about the ban?
And why the hell is anyone even angry about the ban? They expected it!</p></div><p>1. No the mods only allows game backups to run, not to turn it into a PC.
2. NO, see point 1. There is free dev kits provided by MS for homebrew, modding your Xbox does not provide further homebrew advantages in any way.
3. YES, this in effect the only advantage to current Xbox 360 mods as they have only really bypassed the checks for original DVD's.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are three reasons to mod your Xbox : 1 .
Turn it into a cheap PC 2 .
Play homebrew software ( basically # 1 ) 3 .
Steal games .
All of these rely on the same method : replace or disable protections on the OS or base firmware .
It 's in the quick start guide ( the thing that tells you what is and is n't included ) that if you mod your xbox , you will not be able to play Live !
and may not be able to play the games you own .
So why the hell is anyone surprised about the ban ?
And why the hell is anyone even angry about the ban ?
They expected it ! 1 .
No the mods only allows game backups to run , not to turn it into a PC .
2. NO , see point 1 .
There is free dev kits provided by MS for homebrew , modding your Xbox does not provide further homebrew advantages in any way .
3. YES , this in effect the only advantage to current Xbox 360 mods as they have only really bypassed the checks for original DVD 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are three reasons to mod your Xbox:
1.
Turn it into a cheap PC

2.
Play homebrew software (basically #1)

3.
Steal games.
All of these rely on the same method: replace or disable protections on the OS or base firmware.
It's in the quick start guide(the thing that tells you what is and isn't included) that if you mod your xbox, you will not be able to play Live!
and may not be able to play the games you own.
So why the hell is anyone surprised about the ban?
And why the hell is anyone even angry about the ban?
They expected it!1.
No the mods only allows game backups to run, not to turn it into a PC.
2. NO, see point 1.
There is free dev kits provided by MS for homebrew, modding your Xbox does not provide further homebrew advantages in any way.
3. YES, this in effect the only advantage to current Xbox 360 mods as they have only really bypassed the checks for original DVD's.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30064752</id>
	<title>Re:Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>HeronBlademaster</author>
	<datestamp>1257109020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>My take is that people have decided they want what they want <i>now</i></p> </div><p>Agreed.  There's also the whole "we think you promised $X, you technically gave us $X by the letter of the promise but (we say) not by the spirit, so now we want $X plus $Y for free" thing that some people have going.  (Left 4 Dead 2 boycott, I'm looking at you.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>My take is that people have decided they want what they want now Agreed .
There 's also the whole " we think you promised $ X , you technically gave us $ X by the letter of the promise but ( we say ) not by the spirit , so now we want $ X plus $ Y for free " thing that some people have going .
( Left 4 Dead 2 boycott , I 'm looking at you .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My take is that people have decided they want what they want now Agreed.
There's also the whole "we think you promised $X, you technically gave us $X by the letter of the promise but (we say) not by the spirit, so now we want $X plus $Y for free" thing that some people have going.
(Left 4 Dead 2 boycott, I'm looking at you.
)
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_11_1821255.30063474</id>
	<title>Funny First Hand Account</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257104400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I liked <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid\_10000000/newsid\_10002900/10002915.stm" title="bbc.co.uk">the first hand account one gamer offered the BBC</a> [bbc.co.uk].  His justification for modding is that the games are too expensive.<p><div class="quote"><p>I took it into a shop [the Xbox], there was a guy back there and I asked him and he did it for me [chipped it]. He charged &pound;75 to get it chipped but at the end of the day I said to myself I'll pay &pound;75 to get it chipped, after two games I've paid the money back.<br> <br>

I've probably saved about &pound;600 and I've copied roughly 30 or 40 games. A lot of them I've downloaded or I've taken off friends that have downloaded themselves.</p> </div><p>So at what point do you put two and two together and realize that getting kicked off playing online is not such a bad thing if you've saved &pound;600?  Is there really any wonder why XBox Live wants to deny you service?  How exactly do you maintain outrage at being banned?  <br> <br>

His sob story was going pretty good until he got up to those last paragraphs of admission and even saying he'd never do it again (implying he is wrong).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I liked the first hand account one gamer offered the BBC [ bbc.co.uk ] .
His justification for modding is that the games are too expensive.I took it into a shop [ the Xbox ] , there was a guy back there and I asked him and he did it for me [ chipped it ] .
He charged   75 to get it chipped but at the end of the day I said to myself I 'll pay   75 to get it chipped , after two games I 've paid the money back .
I 've probably saved about   600 and I 've copied roughly 30 or 40 games .
A lot of them I 've downloaded or I 've taken off friends that have downloaded themselves .
So at what point do you put two and two together and realize that getting kicked off playing online is not such a bad thing if you 've saved   600 ?
Is there really any wonder why XBox Live wants to deny you service ?
How exactly do you maintain outrage at being banned ?
His sob story was going pretty good until he got up to those last paragraphs of admission and even saying he 'd never do it again ( implying he is wrong ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I liked the first hand account one gamer offered the BBC [bbc.co.uk].
His justification for modding is that the games are too expensive.I took it into a shop [the Xbox], there was a guy back there and I asked him and he did it for me [chipped it].
He charged £75 to get it chipped but at the end of the day I said to myself I'll pay £75 to get it chipped, after two games I've paid the money back.
I've probably saved about £600 and I've copied roughly 30 or 40 games.
A lot of them I've downloaded or I've taken off friends that have downloaded themselves.
So at what point do you put two and two together and realize that getting kicked off playing online is not such a bad thing if you've saved £600?
Is there really any wonder why XBox Live wants to deny you service?
How exactly do you maintain outrage at being banned?
His sob story was going pretty good until he got up to those last paragraphs of admission and even saying he'd never do it again (implying he is wrong).
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