<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_09_035228</id>
	<title>MythTV 0.22 Released</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1257780780000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>uyguremre writes <i>"After a little over a year and a half in the making, the developers of <a href="http://www.mythtv.org/">MythTV</a> announced that <a href="http://www.mythtv.org/news/132/MythTV\%200.22\%20Available">MythTV 0.22 is now available</a>. There have been a lot of large changes since 0.21, including a port from Qt v3 to Qt v4 and a major UI rewrite to convert to MythTV's new MythUI user interface libary. As always, this release adds support for some new hardware, in this case VDPAU video acceleration, DVB-S2, and the Hauppauge HD-PVR. The MythUI toolkit allows themes much greater control over the user interface and today we're announcing a competition to design new themes for MythTV. With the new release comes a <a href="http://www.mythtv.org/theming-competition">theming competition</a> too. For a more complete list of changes and new features, read the <a href="http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release\_Notes\_-\_0.22">Release Notes</a> on the wiki."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>uyguremre writes " After a little over a year and a half in the making , the developers of MythTV announced that MythTV 0.22 is now available .
There have been a lot of large changes since 0.21 , including a port from Qt v3 to Qt v4 and a major UI rewrite to convert to MythTV 's new MythUI user interface libary .
As always , this release adds support for some new hardware , in this case VDPAU video acceleration , DVB-S2 , and the Hauppauge HD-PVR .
The MythUI toolkit allows themes much greater control over the user interface and today we 're announcing a competition to design new themes for MythTV .
With the new release comes a theming competition too .
For a more complete list of changes and new features , read the Release Notes on the wiki .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>uyguremre writes "After a little over a year and a half in the making, the developers of MythTV announced that MythTV 0.22 is now available.
There have been a lot of large changes since 0.21, including a port from Qt v3 to Qt v4 and a major UI rewrite to convert to MythTV's new MythUI user interface libary.
As always, this release adds support for some new hardware, in this case VDPAU video acceleration, DVB-S2, and the Hauppauge HD-PVR.
The MythUI toolkit allows themes much greater control over the user interface and today we're announcing a competition to design new themes for MythTV.
With the new release comes a theming competition too.
For a more complete list of changes and new features, read the Release Notes on the wiki.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028878</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>BLKMGK</author>
	<datestamp>1257702300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>XBMC is a media front-end, it has NO recording capabilities nor will it apparently. Rather than reinventing the wheel the developers intend to make it easy to interface with other back-ends, including Myth. As front-ends go though it ROCKS and I am able to access all of my MP3, DVD\BD rips (MKV), and many streaming audio stations. I look forward to XBMC getting some MAME support (pretty please), and for there being some sort of back-end PVR thing for it to interface with...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>XBMC is a media front-end , it has NO recording capabilities nor will it apparently .
Rather than reinventing the wheel the developers intend to make it easy to interface with other back-ends , including Myth .
As front-ends go though it ROCKS and I am able to access all of my MP3 , DVD \ BD rips ( MKV ) , and many streaming audio stations .
I look forward to XBMC getting some MAME support ( pretty please ) , and for there being some sort of back-end PVR thing for it to interface with.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>XBMC is a media front-end, it has NO recording capabilities nor will it apparently.
Rather than reinventing the wheel the developers intend to make it easy to interface with other back-ends, including Myth.
As front-ends go though it ROCKS and I am able to access all of my MP3, DVD\BD rips (MKV), and many streaming audio stations.
I look forward to XBMC getting some MAME support (pretty please), and for there being some sort of back-end PVR thing for it to interface with...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028628</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029372</id>
	<title>Re:.01 Really?</title>
	<author>Tolkien</author>
	<datestamp>1257708420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You've been influenced by one too many marketing reps.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 've been influenced by one too many marketing reps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You've been influenced by one too many marketing reps.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028604</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028912</id>
	<title>I'm waiting for...</title>
	<author>w0mprat</author>
	<datestamp>1257702540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm waiting for 1.0</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm waiting for 1.0</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm waiting for 1.0</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028830</id>
	<title>Re:.01 Really?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257701940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously man, it's just a number. Version numbering is just made up by some human programers for a release to convey a notion of a fixed release for other humans. You seem to think a 1.0 release means stable or that a 1.2 release necessary conveys anything other than some people decided to call it 1.2. In this case some people decided to call it<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22. Cool.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously man , it 's just a number .
Version numbering is just made up by some human programers for a release to convey a notion of a fixed release for other humans .
You seem to think a 1.0 release means stable or that a 1.2 release necessary conveys anything other than some people decided to call it 1.2 .
In this case some people decided to call it .22 .
Cool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously man, it's just a number.
Version numbering is just made up by some human programers for a release to convey a notion of a fixed release for other humans.
You seem to think a 1.0 release means stable or that a 1.2 release necessary conveys anything other than some people decided to call it 1.2.
In this case some people decided to call it .22.
Cool.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028604</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30040716</id>
	<title>Re:mythtv website</title>
	<author>pelrun</author>
	<datestamp>1257773520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got modded troll? Really? It's not a stupid suggestion, thin skinned moderator dude.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got modded troll ?
Really ? It 's not a stupid suggestion , thin skinned moderator dude .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got modded troll?
Really? It's not a stupid suggestion, thin skinned moderator dude.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028910</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30032610</id>
	<title>Re:Is it still same config nightmare?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257781560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes - although if you use a distribution with a competent package management system you can probably skip the 100 combinations part, leaving you with only the lack of a mouse cursor in the interface designed for use with a remote control and the config screens with text large enough to read from a TV several feet away (requiring multiple pages).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes - although if you use a distribution with a competent package management system you can probably skip the 100 combinations part , leaving you with only the lack of a mouse cursor in the interface designed for use with a remote control and the config screens with text large enough to read from a TV several feet away ( requiring multiple pages ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes - although if you use a distribution with a competent package management system you can probably skip the 100 combinations part, leaving you with only the lack of a mouse cursor in the interface designed for use with a remote control and the config screens with text large enough to read from a TV several feet away (requiring multiple pages).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028848</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30030320</id>
	<title>Re:Too bad Linux is for faggots.</title>
	<author>petrus4</author>
	<datestamp>1257761880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't see the correlation, personally.</p><p>Linux and anarcho-communism?  Maybe.</p><p>Linux and Stallmanite mind control?  Most of the time, (though not always) yes.</p><p>Linux and homosexuality, though?  No.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see the correlation , personally.Linux and anarcho-communism ?
Maybe.Linux and Stallmanite mind control ?
Most of the time , ( though not always ) yes.Linux and homosexuality , though ?
No .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see the correlation, personally.Linux and anarcho-communism?
Maybe.Linux and Stallmanite mind control?
Most of the time, (though not always) yes.Linux and homosexuality, though?
No.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028468</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30033528</id>
	<title>rtfm</title>
	<author>viralMeme</author>
	<datestamp>1257785100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.mythpvr.com/mythtv/distribution/mythbuntu/install.html" title="mythpvr.com">MythTV installation</a> [mythpvr.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>MythTV installation [ mythpvr.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MythTV installation [mythpvr.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028848</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30031732</id>
	<title>Re:Can't wait for 1.0</title>
	<author>smchris</author>
	<datestamp>1257777120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tell my wife it will say, "No, Jennifer, I will not open the pod bay door until you have watched all your recordings."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tell my wife it will say , " No , Jennifer , I will not open the pod bay door until you have watched all your recordings .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tell my wife it will say, "No, Jennifer, I will not open the pod bay door until you have watched all your recordings.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028618</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30039084</id>
	<title>uh yeah... why waste your time</title>
	<author>NightEyez</author>
	<datestamp>1257764880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>For $50 you can purchase SageTV or BeyondTV, works straight out of the box, no fiddling with a hundred settings to make the hardware work. I'm surprised anyone still cares about MythTV other than it was the first homebrew PVR app to get the ball rolling. RIP MythTV, thanks for the gift<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>For $ 50 you can purchase SageTV or BeyondTV , works straight out of the box , no fiddling with a hundred settings to make the hardware work .
I 'm surprised anyone still cares about MythTV other than it was the first homebrew PVR app to get the ball rolling .
RIP MythTV , thanks for the gift : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For $50 you can purchase SageTV or BeyondTV, works straight out of the box, no fiddling with a hundred settings to make the hardware work.
I'm surprised anyone still cares about MythTV other than it was the first homebrew PVR app to get the ball rolling.
RIP MythTV, thanks for the gift :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028620</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>nick0909</author>
	<datestamp>1257700140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have had it running via knoppmyth for a year, which I believe ran Myth<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.20 and just last week upgraded to Mythbuntu running a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22 pre-release version. It works great as a DVR, and the recent upgrades and changes have made it even better. I don't have many issues at all, and really enjoy the web frontend that lets me adjust my recordings, files, settings and schedules. A few friends have Windows media PCs and one is looking hard at switching over because their machine has gotten no innovation in the past two years while Myth has continued to improve.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have had it running via knoppmyth for a year , which I believe ran Myth .20 and just last week upgraded to Mythbuntu running a .22 pre-release version .
It works great as a DVR , and the recent upgrades and changes have made it even better .
I do n't have many issues at all , and really enjoy the web frontend that lets me adjust my recordings , files , settings and schedules .
A few friends have Windows media PCs and one is looking hard at switching over because their machine has gotten no innovation in the past two years while Myth has continued to improve .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have had it running via knoppmyth for a year, which I believe ran Myth .20 and just last week upgraded to Mythbuntu running a .22 pre-release version.
It works great as a DVR, and the recent upgrades and changes have made it even better.
I don't have many issues at all, and really enjoy the web frontend that lets me adjust my recordings, files, settings and schedules.
A few friends have Windows media PCs and one is looking hard at switching over because their machine has gotten no innovation in the past two years while Myth has continued to improve.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028514</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028466</id>
	<title>mythtv website</title>
	<author>BeefMcHuge</author>
	<datestamp>1257698880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>mythtv website got<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.ed it would seem.</htmltext>
<tokenext>mythtv website got /.ed it would seem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mythtv website got /.ed it would seem.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30033218</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257783960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My only problem with windows media center is that nobody sells just an IR blaster for it and even if they did, multiple IR blasters aren't supported.  Otherwise, it has integrated Netflix streaming, some internet tv, and no-extra-subscription-fee TV schedules.  Might not be innovation, but it just works.  I can launch boxee or xbmc from a menu item easily, so I don't lose any of that, and boxee gets Adobe Flash that is far less buggy than the linux version was for me.  Plus, if I decide to ditch it, I have more other options on Windows (Sage, BeyondTV, GB-PVR) than Linux (Freevo or Myth).</p><p>It's not that I'm not looking forward to trying this MythTV release.  I am.  Just don't think that Windows will never catch up since it already has.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My only problem with windows media center is that nobody sells just an IR blaster for it and even if they did , multiple IR blasters are n't supported .
Otherwise , it has integrated Netflix streaming , some internet tv , and no-extra-subscription-fee TV schedules .
Might not be innovation , but it just works .
I can launch boxee or xbmc from a menu item easily , so I do n't lose any of that , and boxee gets Adobe Flash that is far less buggy than the linux version was for me .
Plus , if I decide to ditch it , I have more other options on Windows ( Sage , BeyondTV , GB-PVR ) than Linux ( Freevo or Myth ) .It 's not that I 'm not looking forward to trying this MythTV release .
I am .
Just do n't think that Windows will never catch up since it already has .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My only problem with windows media center is that nobody sells just an IR blaster for it and even if they did, multiple IR blasters aren't supported.
Otherwise, it has integrated Netflix streaming, some internet tv, and no-extra-subscription-fee TV schedules.
Might not be innovation, but it just works.
I can launch boxee or xbmc from a menu item easily, so I don't lose any of that, and boxee gets Adobe Flash that is far less buggy than the linux version was for me.
Plus, if I decide to ditch it, I have more other options on Windows (Sage, BeyondTV, GB-PVR) than Linux (Freevo or Myth).It's not that I'm not looking forward to trying this MythTV release.
I am.
Just don't think that Windows will never catch up since it already has.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028620</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30031722</id>
	<title>Re:.01 Really?</title>
	<author>Bookem Danno</author>
	<datestamp>1257777120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe all software developers don't do it this way, but technically 0.21 to 0.22 IS a 0.1 increase. Version numbers don't work like normal decimals - 0.22 actually should be read as 22nd sub version. If it wasn't done this way, you would run into a problem if you got to 0.9 and made a 0.1 increment.</p><p>But your point is still a good one - if this is a major change, lets call a spade a spade and make this version 1.0. Now, I know that will attract the wolves - FOSS developers have a habit of holding their major version numbers at 0 to indicate they are in beta (seemingly forever).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe all software developers do n't do it this way , but technically 0.21 to 0.22 IS a 0.1 increase .
Version numbers do n't work like normal decimals - 0.22 actually should be read as 22nd sub version .
If it was n't done this way , you would run into a problem if you got to 0.9 and made a 0.1 increment.But your point is still a good one - if this is a major change , lets call a spade a spade and make this version 1.0 .
Now , I know that will attract the wolves - FOSS developers have a habit of holding their major version numbers at 0 to indicate they are in beta ( seemingly forever ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe all software developers don't do it this way, but technically 0.21 to 0.22 IS a 0.1 increase.
Version numbers don't work like normal decimals - 0.22 actually should be read as 22nd sub version.
If it wasn't done this way, you would run into a problem if you got to 0.9 and made a 0.1 increment.But your point is still a good one - if this is a major change, lets call a spade a spade and make this version 1.0.
Now, I know that will attract the wolves - FOSS developers have a habit of holding their major version numbers at 0 to indicate they are in beta (seemingly forever).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028604</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30031118</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257772680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use it all the time and the wife loves it.  After finding stable hardware, it only needs a reboot once a year or so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use it all the time and the wife loves it .
After finding stable hardware , it only needs a reboot once a year or so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use it all the time and the wife loves it.
After finding stable hardware, it only needs a reboot once a year or so.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028514</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30031278</id>
	<title>Re:.01 and the TV Myth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257774180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have been using myth 4 at least 3 years without issue. Initially I got it set up, and wrote some parsers for podcast and xml feeds.<br>Recently comcast switched to digital converter boxes. That took a couple hours to get working because the codes they used.<br>Anyways, it just works for me. I can watch tv from any laptop in the house, use my iphone as a remote or the IR remote.</p><p>I am running Kubuntu 8.04 and haven't had any problems.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have been using myth 4 at least 3 years without issue .
Initially I got it set up , and wrote some parsers for podcast and xml feeds.Recently comcast switched to digital converter boxes .
That took a couple hours to get working because the codes they used.Anyways , it just works for me .
I can watch tv from any laptop in the house , use my iphone as a remote or the IR remote.I am running Kubuntu 8.04 and have n't had any problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have been using myth 4 at least 3 years without issue.
Initially I got it set up, and wrote some parsers for podcast and xml feeds.Recently comcast switched to digital converter boxes.
That took a couple hours to get working because the codes they used.Anyways, it just works for me.
I can watch tv from any laptop in the house, use my iphone as a remote or the IR remote.I am running Kubuntu 8.04 and haven't had any problems.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028768</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30033406</id>
	<title>Re:.01 and the TV Myth</title>
	<author>Rudeboy777</author>
	<datestamp>1257784560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>... you give up and decide to give up TV altogether.</i> <br> <br>

Now THIS is a feature worth advertising in this release!</htmltext>
<tokenext>... you give up and decide to give up TV altogether .
Now THIS is a feature worth advertising in this release !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... you give up and decide to give up TV altogether.
Now THIS is a feature worth advertising in this release!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028768</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028514</id>
	<title>does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257699240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not trying to create flamebait, But honestly does anyone still use it. Everyone I know has ditched it (including the die hard fans that put me onto it in the first place) due to the hideous complexities  in keeping the damn thing running and the endless complaints from "she who must be obeyed" because MythTV box has once again died in the arse during her favourite POS drama show. personally I use XBMC now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not trying to create flamebait , But honestly does anyone still use it .
Everyone I know has ditched it ( including the die hard fans that put me onto it in the first place ) due to the hideous complexities in keeping the damn thing running and the endless complaints from " she who must be obeyed " because MythTV box has once again died in the arse during her favourite POS drama show .
personally I use XBMC now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not trying to create flamebait, But honestly does anyone still use it.
Everyone I know has ditched it (including the die hard fans that put me onto it in the first place) due to the hideous complexities  in keeping the damn thing running and the endless complaints from "she who must be obeyed" because MythTV box has once again died in the arse during her favourite POS drama show.
personally I use XBMC now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028826</id>
	<title>Re:.01 Really?</title>
	<author>Captain Segfault</author>
	<datestamp>1257701940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Their numbering scheme is incremented in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.01's. It would not be consistent with their scheme to increment by<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.10.</p><p>Although I agree -- if they aren't close to a 1.0 they should consider moving to a two-dot system ("0.2.3") which would make it clearer when a release has large destabilizing changes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Their numbering scheme is incremented in .01 's .
It would not be consistent with their scheme to increment by .10.Although I agree -- if they are n't close to a 1.0 they should consider moving to a two-dot system ( " 0.2.3 " ) which would make it clearer when a release has large destabilizing changes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Their numbering scheme is incremented in .01's.
It would not be consistent with their scheme to increment by .10.Although I agree -- if they aren't close to a 1.0 they should consider moving to a two-dot system ("0.2.3") which would make it clearer when a release has large destabilizing changes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30030304</id>
	<title>TV is shit</title>
	<author>Colin Smith</author>
	<datestamp>1257761640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why on earth would you bother?</p><p>I could see the point if the software could pick out quality from the shit, but it can't.</p><p>Now, add some bayesian filtering on actors, director, producer, show description, category and you may have something useful.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why on earth would you bother ? I could see the point if the software could pick out quality from the shit , but it ca n't.Now , add some bayesian filtering on actors , director , producer , show description , category and you may have something useful .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why on earth would you bother?I could see the point if the software could pick out quality from the shit, but it can't.Now, add some bayesian filtering on actors, director, producer, show description, category and you may have something useful.
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028862</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>BLKMGK</author>
	<datestamp>1257702120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd use it WITH XBMC once the Myth backend is a bit easier to configure. As it stands now I'm more than happy to DL my TV content - and yes I still have a damned cable sub with premiums and a TIVO attached to it. I just find that torrenting a show is easier and quicker. This is no more "theft" than running Myth with an ad removal program IMO.</p><p>Anyway, I understand the pain of setting up a Myth box having TRIED to do it myself. Maybe time to try again? Many folks I know are using Windows for much the same thing and it seems easier once you hurdle the DRM crap - they even remove commercials too. If Myth has gotten better terrific, I'll look again and figure out how to tie it to my XBMC system. Sadly I'll be stuck with OTA stuff but that's better than nothing. Overseas Myth is probably more popular because they can apparently hook it into SAT systems and get more content than we're stuck with here...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd use it WITH XBMC once the Myth backend is a bit easier to configure .
As it stands now I 'm more than happy to DL my TV content - and yes I still have a damned cable sub with premiums and a TIVO attached to it .
I just find that torrenting a show is easier and quicker .
This is no more " theft " than running Myth with an ad removal program IMO.Anyway , I understand the pain of setting up a Myth box having TRIED to do it myself .
Maybe time to try again ?
Many folks I know are using Windows for much the same thing and it seems easier once you hurdle the DRM crap - they even remove commercials too .
If Myth has gotten better terrific , I 'll look again and figure out how to tie it to my XBMC system .
Sadly I 'll be stuck with OTA stuff but that 's better than nothing .
Overseas Myth is probably more popular because they can apparently hook it into SAT systems and get more content than we 're stuck with here.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd use it WITH XBMC once the Myth backend is a bit easier to configure.
As it stands now I'm more than happy to DL my TV content - and yes I still have a damned cable sub with premiums and a TIVO attached to it.
I just find that torrenting a show is easier and quicker.
This is no more "theft" than running Myth with an ad removal program IMO.Anyway, I understand the pain of setting up a Myth box having TRIED to do it myself.
Maybe time to try again?
Many folks I know are using Windows for much the same thing and it seems easier once you hurdle the DRM crap - they even remove commercials too.
If Myth has gotten better terrific, I'll look again and figure out how to tie it to my XBMC system.
Sadly I'll be stuck with OTA stuff but that's better than nothing.
Overseas Myth is probably more popular because they can apparently hook it into SAT systems and get more content than we're stuck with here...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029402</id>
	<title>Busters</title>
	<author>Tablizer</author>
	<datestamp>1257708840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yay, now I can watch Myth Busters 24/7! It'll be my fav cable channel.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yay , now I can watch Myth Busters 24/7 !
It 'll be my fav cable channel .
   </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yay, now I can watch Myth Busters 24/7!
It'll be my fav cable channel.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30030848</id>
	<title>Re:upnp</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257768660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry for the threadjack, but how in the HELL do I set<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. to show me all the posts in a thread? They keep changing the frigging code on the site and no matter how many places I go to and set a preference to see everything IT DOESN'T WORK!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry for the threadjack , but how in the HELL do I set / .
to show me all the posts in a thread ?
They keep changing the frigging code on the site and no matter how many places I go to and set a preference to see everything IT DOES N'T WORK !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry for the threadjack, but how in the HELL do I set /.
to show me all the posts in a thread?
They keep changing the frigging code on the site and no matter how many places I go to and set a preference to see everything IT DOESN'T WORK!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029190</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257705420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's not without it's warts, but they're pretty easily hidden, and my wife and daughter both love it.</p></div><p>Wait, what?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not without it 's warts , but they 're pretty easily hidden , and my wife and daughter both love it.Wait , what ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not without it's warts, but they're pretty easily hidden, and my wife and daughter both love it.Wait, what?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30030576</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>Vitani</author>
	<datestamp>1257765060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Although I have not tried it (yet), there is a more complete third-party MythTV plugin for XBMC. You can find it at <a href="http://code.google.com/p/mythbox/" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/mythbox/</a> [google.com] and it works for Linux, OS X &amp; Windows</p><p>Features:</p><ul>
<li>Watch recordings with commercial skipping</li><li>Watch Live TV</li><li>Schedule recordings</li><li>Fanart from tvdb.com, tmdb.com, imdb.com, and Google image seach.</li><li>TV Guide</li><li>Upcoming Recordings</li><li>Supports MythTV 0.21 and 0.22</li><li>Move commercial flagging jobs to the front of the queue</li></ul><p> <i>(Why are &lt;li&gt;'s double line spaced?)</i> </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Although I have not tried it ( yet ) , there is a more complete third-party MythTV plugin for XBMC .
You can find it at http : //code.google.com/p/mythbox/ [ google.com ] and it works for Linux , OS X &amp; WindowsFeatures : Watch recordings with commercial skippingWatch Live TVSchedule recordingsFanart from tvdb.com , tmdb.com , imdb.com , and Google image seach.TV GuideUpcoming RecordingsSupports MythTV 0.21 and 0.22Move commercial flagging jobs to the front of the queue ( Why are 's double line spaced ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although I have not tried it (yet), there is a more complete third-party MythTV plugin for XBMC.
You can find it at http://code.google.com/p/mythbox/ [google.com] and it works for Linux, OS X &amp; WindowsFeatures:
Watch recordings with commercial skippingWatch Live TVSchedule recordingsFanart from tvdb.com, tmdb.com, imdb.com, and Google image seach.TV GuideUpcoming RecordingsSupports MythTV 0.21 and 0.22Move commercial flagging jobs to the front of the queue (Why are 's double line spaced?
) </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029632</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257797400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>1.  XBMC supports playback from myth backends out of the box.  No need for any scripts or the like.<br>
2.  It cannot, however, schedule recordings with myth out of the box.  It also supports TvHeadEnd.<br>
3.  Support is in progress for recording.  It'll likely be in in the New Year.  While this is indeed a "grandiose" endeavour, the XBMC devs don't appear to do things half-arsed if a more general solution is available.  This takes time.<br>
4.  As for adding "features" what do you expect?  So much of XBMC can be altered without writing a single line of app code.  Adding a button pointing at either running Myth itself, or executing the Myth box script, or pointing to your Myth recordings folder etc. etc. is usually just a couple of lines of skin code in most well designed skins.  In some not-so-well designed skins, it may well require shuffling a few buttons around if they're not taking advantage of the control grouping and automatic navigation ability etc.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
XBMC supports playback from myth backends out of the box .
No need for any scripts or the like .
2. It can not , however , schedule recordings with myth out of the box .
It also supports TvHeadEnd .
3. Support is in progress for recording .
It 'll likely be in in the New Year .
While this is indeed a " grandiose " endeavour , the XBMC devs do n't appear to do things half-arsed if a more general solution is available .
This takes time .
4. As for adding " features " what do you expect ?
So much of XBMC can be altered without writing a single line of app code .
Adding a button pointing at either running Myth itself , or executing the Myth box script , or pointing to your Myth recordings folder etc .
etc. is usually just a couple of lines of skin code in most well designed skins .
In some not-so-well designed skins , it may well require shuffling a few buttons around if they 're not taking advantage of the control grouping and automatic navigation ability etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
XBMC supports playback from myth backends out of the box.
No need for any scripts or the like.
2.  It cannot, however, schedule recordings with myth out of the box.
It also supports TvHeadEnd.
3.  Support is in progress for recording.
It'll likely be in in the New Year.
While this is indeed a "grandiose" endeavour, the XBMC devs don't appear to do things half-arsed if a more general solution is available.
This takes time.
4.  As for adding "features" what do you expect?
So much of XBMC can be altered without writing a single line of app code.
Adding a button pointing at either running Myth itself, or executing the Myth box script, or pointing to your Myth recordings folder etc.
etc. is usually just a couple of lines of skin code in most well designed skins.
In some not-so-well designed skins, it may well require shuffling a few buttons around if they're not taking advantage of the control grouping and automatic navigation ability etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028910</id>
	<title>Re:mythtv website</title>
	<author>pelrun</author>
	<datestamp>1257702540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why oh why is it so hard for people to stick<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.nyud.net onto urls so they get coral cached before submitting them to slashdot? You people are supposed to be smart!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why oh why is it so hard for people to stick .nyud.net onto urls so they get coral cached before submitting them to slashdot ?
You people are supposed to be smart !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why oh why is it so hard for people to stick .nyud.net onto urls so they get coral cached before submitting them to slashdot?
You people are supposed to be smart!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028992</id>
	<title>Re:Does it save me from commercials?</title>
	<author>Techman83</author>
	<datestamp>1257703380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Use a dedicated distro and all the hard work is done for you. Such as <a href="http://linhes.org/" title="linhes.org">LinHES</a> [linhes.org] for example.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Use a dedicated distro and all the hard work is done for you .
Such as LinHES [ linhes.org ] for example .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use a dedicated distro and all the hard work is done for you.
Such as LinHES [linhes.org] for example.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30033790</id>
	<title>Re:mythtv website</title>
	<author>Wonko the Sane</author>
	<datestamp>1257786300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's even a Firefox <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2175" title="mozilla.org">plugin</a> [mozilla.org] that automatically adds the links for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's even a Firefox plugin [ mozilla.org ] that automatically adds the links for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's even a Firefox plugin [mozilla.org] that automatically adds the links for you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028792</id>
	<title>Does it save me from commercials?</title>
	<author>bogaboga</author>
	<datestamp>1257701700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder whether this new release has an option of stripping out commercials from recordings on request. Does it? On prior releases one had to download a script, then go through a number of hops to get it working.</p><p>I hope it does and though the site is slashdotted, I thank folks at MythTV for their good work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder whether this new release has an option of stripping out commercials from recordings on request .
Does it ?
On prior releases one had to download a script , then go through a number of hops to get it working.I hope it does and though the site is slashdotted , I thank folks at MythTV for their good work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder whether this new release has an option of stripping out commercials from recordings on request.
Does it?
On prior releases one had to download a script, then go through a number of hops to get it working.I hope it does and though the site is slashdotted, I thank folks at MythTV for their good work.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028924</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>gregmac</author>
	<datestamp>1257702600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tried using XBMC on an Asrock ION 330 as a frontend for a while. Basically, it looks amazing (especially compared to Myth 0.21), and has some nice things like animations.  It was dirt simple to get working with the hardware, including an MCE remote (as in, I basically had to do nothing).</p><p>The bad: it's not a DVR at all. It has half-baked myth backend support - in that it is supposed to understand the streams and be able to play content. However, you have to go into a menu item called "Scripts" and then start "Mythtv" from a list there, before navigating to recordings. It has no support for scheduling or doing anything besides playing back recordings. I ended up just making it look directly at the Recordings directory on my myth box and playing back files from there (note, I use a script there to symlink the mythtv recording files to their actual names).</p><p>The ugly: Due to the high potential, I started digging in more to see if there was anything I could do to help out, such as work on the myth backend support. What I found is that entire project has been mothballed, and they are working on a grandios rewrite of a generic PVR layer, and then later on top of that will have Mythtv support.  Not a TERRIBLE plan, but 1) it's a huge plan, that will take a long time before it is even remotely usable, 2) it means the PVR has to be lowest common denominator support, combined based on what all the PVR backends they support have. It also means the devs are rejecting patches to the existing myth support, because it is not relevant in the wake of the new PVR backend.</p><p>On top of that, the architecture is sadly lacking. With apologize to XBMC devs, as I'm about to call your baby ugly, but It very much shows its organic and basic roots. The actual menu items are hardcoded into the theme, and intertwined with the code in the back. To do something that should be simple, like add another menu item to the main menu, from what I can tell you have to: 1) modify the core code to understand the command, 2) modify the theme to add in the button - which includes changing the x,y coordinates of all buttons below that one that now need to be shifted, and adjusting the animation code so it knows the positions of all the buttons. It's possible it is simpler than that (I didn't actually try), but from looking at the code, that's what it looked like to me, and so I lost interest due to the amount of effort and non-reusability (eg, my Mythtv button wouldn't be accepted as a patch, and I'd have to redo this anytime I installed an update).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tried using XBMC on an Asrock ION 330 as a frontend for a while .
Basically , it looks amazing ( especially compared to Myth 0.21 ) , and has some nice things like animations .
It was dirt simple to get working with the hardware , including an MCE remote ( as in , I basically had to do nothing ) .The bad : it 's not a DVR at all .
It has half-baked myth backend support - in that it is supposed to understand the streams and be able to play content .
However , you have to go into a menu item called " Scripts " and then start " Mythtv " from a list there , before navigating to recordings .
It has no support for scheduling or doing anything besides playing back recordings .
I ended up just making it look directly at the Recordings directory on my myth box and playing back files from there ( note , I use a script there to symlink the mythtv recording files to their actual names ) .The ugly : Due to the high potential , I started digging in more to see if there was anything I could do to help out , such as work on the myth backend support .
What I found is that entire project has been mothballed , and they are working on a grandios rewrite of a generic PVR layer , and then later on top of that will have Mythtv support .
Not a TERRIBLE plan , but 1 ) it 's a huge plan , that will take a long time before it is even remotely usable , 2 ) it means the PVR has to be lowest common denominator support , combined based on what all the PVR backends they support have .
It also means the devs are rejecting patches to the existing myth support , because it is not relevant in the wake of the new PVR backend.On top of that , the architecture is sadly lacking .
With apologize to XBMC devs , as I 'm about to call your baby ugly , but It very much shows its organic and basic roots .
The actual menu items are hardcoded into the theme , and intertwined with the code in the back .
To do something that should be simple , like add another menu item to the main menu , from what I can tell you have to : 1 ) modify the core code to understand the command , 2 ) modify the theme to add in the button - which includes changing the x,y coordinates of all buttons below that one that now need to be shifted , and adjusting the animation code so it knows the positions of all the buttons .
It 's possible it is simpler than that ( I did n't actually try ) , but from looking at the code , that 's what it looked like to me , and so I lost interest due to the amount of effort and non-reusability ( eg , my Mythtv button would n't be accepted as a patch , and I 'd have to redo this anytime I installed an update ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tried using XBMC on an Asrock ION 330 as a frontend for a while.
Basically, it looks amazing (especially compared to Myth 0.21), and has some nice things like animations.
It was dirt simple to get working with the hardware, including an MCE remote (as in, I basically had to do nothing).The bad: it's not a DVR at all.
It has half-baked myth backend support - in that it is supposed to understand the streams and be able to play content.
However, you have to go into a menu item called "Scripts" and then start "Mythtv" from a list there, before navigating to recordings.
It has no support for scheduling or doing anything besides playing back recordings.
I ended up just making it look directly at the Recordings directory on my myth box and playing back files from there (note, I use a script there to symlink the mythtv recording files to their actual names).The ugly: Due to the high potential, I started digging in more to see if there was anything I could do to help out, such as work on the myth backend support.
What I found is that entire project has been mothballed, and they are working on a grandios rewrite of a generic PVR layer, and then later on top of that will have Mythtv support.
Not a TERRIBLE plan, but 1) it's a huge plan, that will take a long time before it is even remotely usable, 2) it means the PVR has to be lowest common denominator support, combined based on what all the PVR backends they support have.
It also means the devs are rejecting patches to the existing myth support, because it is not relevant in the wake of the new PVR backend.On top of that, the architecture is sadly lacking.
With apologize to XBMC devs, as I'm about to call your baby ugly, but It very much shows its organic and basic roots.
The actual menu items are hardcoded into the theme, and intertwined with the code in the back.
To do something that should be simple, like add another menu item to the main menu, from what I can tell you have to: 1) modify the core code to understand the command, 2) modify the theme to add in the button - which includes changing the x,y coordinates of all buttons below that one that now need to be shifted, and adjusting the animation code so it knows the positions of all the buttons.
It's possible it is simpler than that (I didn't actually try), but from looking at the code, that's what it looked like to me, and so I lost interest due to the amount of effort and non-reusability (eg, my Mythtv button wouldn't be accepted as a patch, and I'd have to redo this anytime I installed an update).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30031082</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>Znork</author>
	<datestamp>1257772080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know what you're doing to your myth installation, but mine has been pretty much zero maintenance between upgrades. The only glitches I've had for the last two years have been due to changes in digital broadcast MUX'es and the, eh, slight problems in the distributions audio subsystem.</p><p>Before that it was mostly issues with the TV cards and drivers, but I cant really blame Myth for that either. Going further back than that tho, (pre-0.20), yes, it was rather painful. I think I spent two months compiling (and recompiling in cases of circular dependencies) stuff back in the days before there were good repos for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know what you 're doing to your myth installation , but mine has been pretty much zero maintenance between upgrades .
The only glitches I 've had for the last two years have been due to changes in digital broadcast MUX'es and the , eh , slight problems in the distributions audio subsystem.Before that it was mostly issues with the TV cards and drivers , but I cant really blame Myth for that either .
Going further back than that tho , ( pre-0.20 ) , yes , it was rather painful .
I think I spent two months compiling ( and recompiling in cases of circular dependencies ) stuff back in the days before there were good repos for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know what you're doing to your myth installation, but mine has been pretty much zero maintenance between upgrades.
The only glitches I've had for the last two years have been due to changes in digital broadcast MUX'es and the, eh, slight problems in the distributions audio subsystem.Before that it was mostly issues with the TV cards and drivers, but I cant really blame Myth for that either.
Going further back than that tho, (pre-0.20), yes, it was rather painful.
I think I spent two months compiling (and recompiling in cases of circular dependencies) stuff back in the days before there were good repos for it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30030278</id>
	<title>Re:.01 Really?</title>
	<author>Thnurg</author>
	<datestamp>1257761400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Software versioning does not necessarily follow the decimal system.<br>It has not gone from "point two one to point two two".<br>It has gone from "dot twenty one to dot twenty two", which in standard software versioning terms means it is still on the original code base but has had extra features added.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Software versioning does not necessarily follow the decimal system.It has not gone from " point two one to point two two " .It has gone from " dot twenty one to dot twenty two " , which in standard software versioning terms means it is still on the original code base but has had extra features added .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Software versioning does not necessarily follow the decimal system.It has not gone from "point two one to point two two".It has gone from "dot twenty one to dot twenty two", which in standard software versioning terms means it is still on the original code base but has had extra features added.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30032682</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>sorak</author>
	<datestamp>1257781740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No innovation? My experience with Windows Media Center is that it has gotten to be useless, because it respects the copyright flag. It used to be that this meant that you cannot record HBO, but now, the big four are using it. Of course, my Media Center PC stopped working six months ago, and I was so dissatisfied, that I just replaced it with standard XP. So, in the past six months, it is possible that they have fixed the "we won't record anything but PBS" policy of theirs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No innovation ?
My experience with Windows Media Center is that it has gotten to be useless , because it respects the copyright flag .
It used to be that this meant that you can not record HBO , but now , the big four are using it .
Of course , my Media Center PC stopped working six months ago , and I was so dissatisfied , that I just replaced it with standard XP .
So , in the past six months , it is possible that they have fixed the " we wo n't record anything but PBS " policy of theirs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No innovation?
My experience with Windows Media Center is that it has gotten to be useless, because it respects the copyright flag.
It used to be that this meant that you cannot record HBO, but now, the big four are using it.
Of course, my Media Center PC stopped working six months ago, and I was so dissatisfied, that I just replaced it with standard XP.
So, in the past six months, it is possible that they have fixed the "we won't record anything but PBS" policy of theirs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029458</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257709560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Not trying to create flamebait, But honestly does anyone still use it. Everyone I know has ditched it (including the die hard fans that put me onto it in the first place) due to the hideous complexities  in keeping the damn thing running and the endless complaints from "she who must be obeyed" because MythTV box has once again died in the arse during her favourite POS drama show. personally I use XBMC now.</p></div><p>Must agree with this. The MythTVV devs need to take a good hard look at Windows Media Centre's configuration method.</p><p>I've been using computers for over 30 years, and linux for about 7, but when I tried to get MythTV to work with only ONE tuner card, the ridiculous backend configuration hoops one has to go through just left me aghast. Now, I'm sure for the devs they find it easy, but clearly the didn't run it by any end users out there.</p><p>They must fix the abomination that is the back-end configuration. Unless they're using a fiendish plan to have people not be able to complain about bugs, because they can't actually get the thing to operate in the first place.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not trying to create flamebait , But honestly does anyone still use it .
Everyone I know has ditched it ( including the die hard fans that put me onto it in the first place ) due to the hideous complexities in keeping the damn thing running and the endless complaints from " she who must be obeyed " because MythTV box has once again died in the arse during her favourite POS drama show .
personally I use XBMC now.Must agree with this .
The MythTVV devs need to take a good hard look at Windows Media Centre 's configuration method.I 've been using computers for over 30 years , and linux for about 7 , but when I tried to get MythTV to work with only ONE tuner card , the ridiculous backend configuration hoops one has to go through just left me aghast .
Now , I 'm sure for the devs they find it easy , but clearly the did n't run it by any end users out there.They must fix the abomination that is the back-end configuration .
Unless they 're using a fiendish plan to have people not be able to complain about bugs , because they ca n't actually get the thing to operate in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not trying to create flamebait, But honestly does anyone still use it.
Everyone I know has ditched it (including the die hard fans that put me onto it in the first place) due to the hideous complexities  in keeping the damn thing running and the endless complaints from "she who must be obeyed" because MythTV box has once again died in the arse during her favourite POS drama show.
personally I use XBMC now.Must agree with this.
The MythTVV devs need to take a good hard look at Windows Media Centre's configuration method.I've been using computers for over 30 years, and linux for about 7, but when I tried to get MythTV to work with only ONE tuner card, the ridiculous backend configuration hoops one has to go through just left me aghast.
Now, I'm sure for the devs they find it easy, but clearly the didn't run it by any end users out there.They must fix the abomination that is the back-end configuration.
Unless they're using a fiendish plan to have people not be able to complain about bugs, because they can't actually get the thing to operate in the first place.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30030546</id>
	<title>Re:.01 Really?</title>
	<author>andersa</author>
	<datestamp>1257764700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's just an integer increment. 1, 2, 3,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..., 19, 20, 21, 22, and so on. And they do a major rewrite of some part of it every time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's just an integer increment .
1 , 2 , 3 , ... , 19 , 20 , 21 , 22 , and so on .
And they do a major rewrite of some part of it every time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's just an integer increment.
1, 2, 3, ..., 19, 20, 21, 22, and so on.
And they do a major rewrite of some part of it every time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028782</id>
	<title>Re:.01 Really?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257701520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean version 0.1 will play my bluray collection?<br>I'm in!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean version 0.1 will play my bluray collection ? I 'm in !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean version 0.1 will play my bluray collection?I'm in!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30030830</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>cowbutt</author>
	<datestamp>1257768480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>I got sick of MythTV locking up, crashing, and the constant non-stop twiddling with my configuration because I could never get things quite right.</i> </p><p>That doesn't chime with my experience of MythTV at all. It took about a day of solid fiddling to get core functionality working, and about a month of on-off work to get most of the other stuff working. It takes maybe half a day when I do a combined hard disc/distro/MythTV upgrade. The rest of the time, it JFWs. I run it on very modest hardware; a P4 2.53GHz (used to be a Celeron 1.7GHz), 768MB RAM and an nVidia 440MX video card. I use 3 physical DVB-T tuners which I multiplex to give 6 virtual tuners.</p><p>The only reliability issues I can report are a)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/var filling up when I've borrowed space for non-MythTV tasks and forgotten to release it later (doh!) b) the frontend crashing sometimes when playing MP3s; I suspect marginally-corrupt files c) the backend having crashed inexplicably maybe once or twice in the three years I've been running it; quite possibly parsing data that's been broadcast as corrupt, or been corrupted by local RF noise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got sick of MythTV locking up , crashing , and the constant non-stop twiddling with my configuration because I could never get things quite right .
That does n't chime with my experience of MythTV at all .
It took about a day of solid fiddling to get core functionality working , and about a month of on-off work to get most of the other stuff working .
It takes maybe half a day when I do a combined hard disc/distro/MythTV upgrade .
The rest of the time , it JFWs .
I run it on very modest hardware ; a P4 2.53GHz ( used to be a Celeron 1.7GHz ) , 768MB RAM and an nVidia 440MX video card .
I use 3 physical DVB-T tuners which I multiplex to give 6 virtual tuners.The only reliability issues I can report are a ) /var filling up when I 've borrowed space for non-MythTV tasks and forgotten to release it later ( doh !
) b ) the frontend crashing sometimes when playing MP3s ; I suspect marginally-corrupt files c ) the backend having crashed inexplicably maybe once or twice in the three years I 've been running it ; quite possibly parsing data that 's been broadcast as corrupt , or been corrupted by local RF noise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I got sick of MythTV locking up, crashing, and the constant non-stop twiddling with my configuration because I could never get things quite right.
That doesn't chime with my experience of MythTV at all.
It took about a day of solid fiddling to get core functionality working, and about a month of on-off work to get most of the other stuff working.
It takes maybe half a day when I do a combined hard disc/distro/MythTV upgrade.
The rest of the time, it JFWs.
I run it on very modest hardware; a P4 2.53GHz (used to be a Celeron 1.7GHz), 768MB RAM and an nVidia 440MX video card.
I use 3 physical DVB-T tuners which I multiplex to give 6 virtual tuners.The only reliability issues I can report are a) /var filling up when I've borrowed space for non-MythTV tasks and forgotten to release it later (doh!
) b) the frontend crashing sometimes when playing MP3s; I suspect marginally-corrupt files c) the backend having crashed inexplicably maybe once or twice in the three years I've been running it; quite possibly parsing data that's been broadcast as corrupt, or been corrupted by local RF noise.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028478</id>
	<title>Not important</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257699000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So Slashdot posts something every time some open source project has a new release?  Who cares.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So Slashdot posts something every time some open source project has a new release ?
Who cares .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Slashdot posts something every time some open source project has a new release?
Who cares.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029410</id>
	<title>Re:database</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257708900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Instead of using the UTF8 character set that the mysql devs have requested, mythtv makes you force your mysql installation to use the latin1 character set.  Nope they haven't fixed it- now they just blame the problem on whatever distros don't automatically force mysql into latin1.  I had to change some config files and dump and reload my database to get it to work with the new version.  And from what I have read I wouldn't wait for them to fix it - they don't believe they have a problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Instead of using the UTF8 character set that the mysql devs have requested , mythtv makes you force your mysql installation to use the latin1 character set .
Nope they have n't fixed it- now they just blame the problem on whatever distros do n't automatically force mysql into latin1 .
I had to change some config files and dump and reload my database to get it to work with the new version .
And from what I have read I would n't wait for them to fix it - they do n't believe they have a problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Instead of using the UTF8 character set that the mysql devs have requested, mythtv makes you force your mysql installation to use the latin1 character set.
Nope they haven't fixed it- now they just blame the problem on whatever distros don't automatically force mysql into latin1.
I had to change some config files and dump and reload my database to get it to work with the new version.
And from what I have read I wouldn't wait for them to fix it - they don't believe they have a problem.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30032648</id>
	<title>Re:.01 Really?</title>
	<author>LordKronos</author>
	<datestamp>1257781680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.01 increment. In myth, the 0. denotes that this is still what they consider prerelease (ie: not ready for the mass market), and beyond that it's just version numbers. This is version 22, previous version was 21. The numbering works perfectly fine for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not a .01 increment .
In myth , the 0. denotes that this is still what they consider prerelease ( ie : not ready for the mass market ) , and beyond that it 's just version numbers .
This is version 22 , previous version was 21 .
The numbering works perfectly fine for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not a .01 increment.
In myth, the 0. denotes that this is still what they consider prerelease (ie: not ready for the mass market), and beyond that it's just version numbers.
This is version 22, previous version was 21.
The numbering works perfectly fine for me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028848</id>
	<title>Is it still same config nightmare?</title>
	<author>distantbody</author>
	<datestamp>1257702060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do I still have to f**k around with 100 combinations/restarts of Qt, ffmpeg, XVideo, XvMC, libmpeg2, xv-blit, opengl, xlib, xshm, directfb, directx<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...all whilst not being able to see the f**king mouse cursor and having to hit 'next' five times just to change one setting?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do I still have to f * * k around with 100 combinations/restarts of Qt , ffmpeg , XVideo , XvMC , libmpeg2 , xv-blit , opengl , xlib , xshm , directfb , directx ...all whilst not being able to see the f * * king mouse cursor and having to hit 'next ' five times just to change one setting ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do I still have to f**k around with 100 combinations/restarts of Qt, ffmpeg, XVideo, XvMC, libmpeg2, xv-blit, opengl, xlib, xshm, directfb, directx ...all whilst not being able to see the f**king mouse cursor and having to hit 'next' five times just to change one setting?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30038536</id>
	<title>Re:.01 and the TV Myth</title>
	<author>spinkham</author>
	<datestamp>1257762480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.mythbuntu.org/" title="mythbuntu.org">Mythbuntu.</a> [mythbuntu.org] MythTV done Easy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mythbuntu .
[ mythbuntu.org ] MythTV done Easy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mythbuntu.
[mythbuntu.org] MythTV done Easy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029108</id>
	<title>Slashdot a DOS attack?</title>
	<author>cypherdtraitor</author>
	<datestamp>1257704400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Next time I get P.O.'ed at some company, I'm gonna get a link to their web page in a slashdot story.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Next time I get P.O .
'ed at some company , I 'm gon na get a link to their web page in a slashdot story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Next time I get P.O.
'ed at some company, I'm gonna get a link to their web page in a slashdot story.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028898</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>Windowser</author>
	<datestamp>1257702480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I got sick of MythTV locking up, crashing, and the constant non-stop twiddling with my configuration because I could never get things quite right.</p><p>SageTV isn't much better.  I spend a lot less time twiddling, but it crashes and freezes about as often as MythTV used to.  I'm still looking for that HTPC that just works.  I haven't found it yet.</p></div><p>
I have one MythTV backend in my server closet, plus 2 frontend in my house. I never fiddle with the settings, and the server keeps running and recording the shows we tell it to. It never seem to crash.<br> <br>
Since you have the same crashing with SageTV and MythTV, I would be tempted to say that the only point in common those 2 have is : YOU.<br>
I would not let you touch my setup</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I got sick of MythTV locking up , crashing , and the constant non-stop twiddling with my configuration because I could never get things quite right.SageTV is n't much better .
I spend a lot less time twiddling , but it crashes and freezes about as often as MythTV used to .
I 'm still looking for that HTPC that just works .
I have n't found it yet .
I have one MythTV backend in my server closet , plus 2 frontend in my house .
I never fiddle with the settings , and the server keeps running and recording the shows we tell it to .
It never seem to crash .
Since you have the same crashing with SageTV and MythTV , I would be tempted to say that the only point in common those 2 have is : YOU .
I would not let you touch my setup</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got sick of MythTV locking up, crashing, and the constant non-stop twiddling with my configuration because I could never get things quite right.SageTV isn't much better.
I spend a lot less time twiddling, but it crashes and freezes about as often as MythTV used to.
I'm still looking for that HTPC that just works.
I haven't found it yet.
I have one MythTV backend in my server closet, plus 2 frontend in my house.
I never fiddle with the settings, and the server keeps running and recording the shows we tell it to.
It never seem to crash.
Since you have the same crashing with SageTV and MythTV, I would be tempted to say that the only point in common those 2 have is : YOU.
I would not let you touch my setup
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30031006</id>
	<title>Re:.01 Really?</title>
	<author>iamjoltman</author>
	<datestamp>1257771180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You seem to be confused. '.22' doesn't mean '.2.2' it's just a single revision number. So going from<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.21 to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22 is no less meaningful than going from<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.1 to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.2</htmltext>
<tokenext>You seem to be confused .
'.22 ' does n't mean '.2.2 ' it 's just a single revision number .
So going from .21 to .22 is no less meaningful than going from .1 to .2</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You seem to be confused.
'.22' doesn't mean '.2.2' it's just a single revision number.
So going from .21 to .22 is no less meaningful than going from .1 to .2</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30030438</id>
	<title>Re:Is it still same config nightmare?</title>
	<author>Thnurg</author>
	<datestamp>1257763560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only if you have told it not to display the mouse cursor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only if you have told it not to display the mouse cursor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only if you have told it not to display the mouse cursor.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028660</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>0123456</author>
	<datestamp>1257700500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Not trying to create flamebait, But honestly does anyone still use it.</p></div><p>Yes. It's buggy and configuration is horrendous, but now it's going the only real problem I have is that it tends not to update the database properly when a table changes in a new version (e.g. mythbuntu seems to assume that you don't have a root password on the MySQL database).</p><p>That said, I'm not going to be upgrading to 0.22 until the current season of my girlfrend's favorite shows finishes, because I'll be in trouble if she misses some due to software changes.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not trying to create flamebait , But honestly does anyone still use it.Yes .
It 's buggy and configuration is horrendous , but now it 's going the only real problem I have is that it tends not to update the database properly when a table changes in a new version ( e.g .
mythbuntu seems to assume that you do n't have a root password on the MySQL database ) .That said , I 'm not going to be upgrading to 0.22 until the current season of my girlfrend 's favorite shows finishes , because I 'll be in trouble if she misses some due to software changes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not trying to create flamebait, But honestly does anyone still use it.Yes.
It's buggy and configuration is horrendous, but now it's going the only real problem I have is that it tends not to update the database properly when a table changes in a new version (e.g.
mythbuntu seems to assume that you don't have a root password on the MySQL database).That said, I'm not going to be upgrading to 0.22 until the current season of my girlfrend's favorite shows finishes, because I'll be in trouble if she misses some due to software changes.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30032838</id>
	<title>Re:.01 and the TV Myth</title>
	<author>gukin</author>
	<datestamp>1257782400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just installed Mandriva 2010 this weekend with the new<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22 version, I got it all set up and mythweb working in less than an hour, the new features and front-end are quite nice and it looks great.</p><p>All that and there is STILL nothing on TV worth watching.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just installed Mandriva 2010 this weekend with the new .22 version , I got it all set up and mythweb working in less than an hour , the new features and front-end are quite nice and it looks great.All that and there is STILL nothing on TV worth watching .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just installed Mandriva 2010 this weekend with the new .22 version, I got it all set up and mythweb working in less than an hour, the new features and front-end are quite nice and it looks great.All that and there is STILL nothing on TV worth watching.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30031448</id>
	<title>Boxee is great!</title>
	<author>blahbooboo</author>
	<datestamp>1257775440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am new to the HTPC world. I tried XBMC and Boxee.  I found XBMC user interface design confusing to configure it and get it actually working. Boxee (yes it's based on XBMC) automatically did everything for me like an appliance. XBMC i couldn't even get the darn thing to scrape properly, the configuration is confusing (haha, that wiki instruction is a joke) , and nothing just worked as easily in Boxee. In 10 minutes I figured out in Boxee how to setup the directories, and it did all the rest (all the video art etc was setup and categorized movies vs tv shows for me). Xbmc, I wish I could have even got that far.

Now I am sure XMBC is great, so please point me to some idiot setup process instructions, but XBMC feels like work to get it working...boxee not at all.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am new to the HTPC world .
I tried XBMC and Boxee .
I found XBMC user interface design confusing to configure it and get it actually working .
Boxee ( yes it 's based on XBMC ) automatically did everything for me like an appliance .
XBMC i could n't even get the darn thing to scrape properly , the configuration is confusing ( haha , that wiki instruction is a joke ) , and nothing just worked as easily in Boxee .
In 10 minutes I figured out in Boxee how to setup the directories , and it did all the rest ( all the video art etc was setup and categorized movies vs tv shows for me ) .
Xbmc , I wish I could have even got that far .
Now I am sure XMBC is great , so please point me to some idiot setup process instructions , but XBMC feels like work to get it working...boxee not at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am new to the HTPC world.
I tried XBMC and Boxee.
I found XBMC user interface design confusing to configure it and get it actually working.
Boxee (yes it's based on XBMC) automatically did everything for me like an appliance.
XBMC i couldn't even get the darn thing to scrape properly, the configuration is confusing (haha, that wiki instruction is a joke) , and nothing just worked as easily in Boxee.
In 10 minutes I figured out in Boxee how to setup the directories, and it did all the rest (all the video art etc was setup and categorized movies vs tv shows for me).
Xbmc, I wish I could have even got that far.
Now I am sure XMBC is great, so please point me to some idiot setup process instructions, but XBMC feels like work to get it working...boxee not at all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028628</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>schon</author>
	<datestamp>1257700200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I still use it.</p><p>It's not without it's warts, but they're pretty easily hidden, and my wife and daughter both love it.</p><p>I've never used XBMC - how good it it's PVR capabilities?  For scheduling does it support Schedules Direct, or some other listings service (or does it require screen-scraping of some sort?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I still use it.It 's not without it 's warts , but they 're pretty easily hidden , and my wife and daughter both love it.I 've never used XBMC - how good it it 's PVR capabilities ?
For scheduling does it support Schedules Direct , or some other listings service ( or does it require screen-scraping of some sort ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still use it.It's not without it's warts, but they're pretty easily hidden, and my wife and daughter both love it.I've never used XBMC - how good it it's PVR capabilities?
For scheduling does it support Schedules Direct, or some other listings service (or does it require screen-scraping of some sort?
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028954</id>
	<title>Re:Does it save me from commercials?</title>
	<author>Windowser</author>
	<datestamp>1257702900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Once the show is recorded, there is a background job flagging the commercials. When I watch a show, I just hit Z to bypass the commercial in a millisecond.<br>

Watching live TV is a pain now because of this !</htmltext>
<tokenext>Once the show is recorded , there is a background job flagging the commercials .
When I watch a show , I just hit Z to bypass the commercial in a millisecond .
Watching live TV is a pain now because of this !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once the show is recorded, there is a background job flagging the commercials.
When I watch a show, I just hit Z to bypass the commercial in a millisecond.
Watching live TV is a pain now because of this !</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30039112</id>
	<title>what the world needs ...</title>
	<author>nblender</author>
	<datestamp>1257765060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been using myth practically forever... I have a sizable mythbackend downstairs hooked up to two cable boxes on firewire and Myth fails fairly regularly with a bug that's filed and that I've tried fixing to no avail... I also have 2 frontends which are Mac Mini's running Ubuntu... I call myself an experienced mythtv user. The problem is, MythTV does a lot of things fairly well, but nothing really awesome... The thing it does best, in my opinion, is recording, scheduling, commercial flagging and other DVR sort of functions.  As a frontend, it's doomed... Other things are better.  Unfortunately, there's no happy-go-lucky streaming protocol so you can use non-MythTV Frontends on a MythTV backend.. Sure, you can buy uPNP boxes to view video, but then you can't take advantage of commercial skip.  If someone extended uPNP so you could stream recordings and do commercial skip, we wouldn't have to use mythtv's frontend and mythtv.org could concentrate on making a bitchin DVR.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using myth practically forever... I have a sizable mythbackend downstairs hooked up to two cable boxes on firewire and Myth fails fairly regularly with a bug that 's filed and that I 've tried fixing to no avail... I also have 2 frontends which are Mac Mini 's running Ubuntu... I call myself an experienced mythtv user .
The problem is , MythTV does a lot of things fairly well , but nothing really awesome... The thing it does best , in my opinion , is recording , scheduling , commercial flagging and other DVR sort of functions .
As a frontend , it 's doomed... Other things are better .
Unfortunately , there 's no happy-go-lucky streaming protocol so you can use non-MythTV Frontends on a MythTV backend.. Sure , you can buy uPNP boxes to view video , but then you ca n't take advantage of commercial skip .
If someone extended uPNP so you could stream recordings and do commercial skip , we would n't have to use mythtv 's frontend and mythtv.org could concentrate on making a bitchin DVR .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using myth practically forever... I have a sizable mythbackend downstairs hooked up to two cable boxes on firewire and Myth fails fairly regularly with a bug that's filed and that I've tried fixing to no avail... I also have 2 frontends which are Mac Mini's running Ubuntu... I call myself an experienced mythtv user.
The problem is, MythTV does a lot of things fairly well, but nothing really awesome... The thing it does best, in my opinion, is recording, scheduling, commercial flagging and other DVR sort of functions.
As a frontend, it's doomed... Other things are better.
Unfortunately, there's no happy-go-lucky streaming protocol so you can use non-MythTV Frontends on a MythTV backend.. Sure, you can buy uPNP boxes to view video, but then you can't take advantage of commercial skip.
If someone extended uPNP so you could stream recordings and do commercial skip, we wouldn't have to use mythtv's frontend and mythtv.org could concentrate on making a bitchin DVR.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028604</id>
	<title>.01 Really?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257700080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, let's get this right, in this update they have:<br>- Major back-end changes<br>- Major UI rewrite<br>- Significant new hardware support<br>- Also, apparently a more powerful themes toolkit</p><p>And this isn't even worth a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.1 version increment. It's a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.01</p><p>Really, if the version numbers are going to be this meaningless for tracking significant changes they should at least name them or come up with some other system. Something that let's people get interested and involved in the project and excited about the new release.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , let 's get this right , in this update they have : - Major back-end changes- Major UI rewrite- Significant new hardware support- Also , apparently a more powerful themes toolkitAnd this is n't even worth a .1 version increment .
It 's a .01Really , if the version numbers are going to be this meaningless for tracking significant changes they should at least name them or come up with some other system .
Something that let 's people get interested and involved in the project and excited about the new release .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, let's get this right, in this update they have:- Major back-end changes- Major UI rewrite- Significant new hardware support- Also, apparently a more powerful themes toolkitAnd this isn't even worth a .1 version increment.
It's a .01Really, if the version numbers are going to be this meaningless for tracking significant changes they should at least name them or come up with some other system.
Something that let's people get interested and involved in the project and excited about the new release.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30032644</id>
	<title>Perfect on a Mac Mini (+link to howto)</title>
	<author>GlobalEcho</author>
	<datestamp>1257781680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I set up an SVN snapshot of Myth on a Mac Mini about six months ago.  I wanted to save power, so the Mini runs both the backend and the frontend.   If you like, you can see a <a href="http://public.boonstra.org/MacMiniHTPCSetup.html" title="boonstra.org">full description</a> [boonstra.org] of how I did it.  (The guide is out of date in the sense that I resolved jumpy playback issues by reducing the priority of commercial-flagging jobs.)</p><p>It's been wonderful.   I get full HD video and convenient scheduling.  I've had exactly zero crashes, and the automatic commercial skipping has been very reliable (maybe one mistake every 5 or 10 shows).  I also really enjoy the ability to watch TV on any computer in the house.</p><p>Right now, I'm working here and there on integration with <a href="http://www.plexapp.com/" title="plexapp.com">Plex</a> [plexapp.com] because I'd like to have all media in just one interface.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I set up an SVN snapshot of Myth on a Mac Mini about six months ago .
I wanted to save power , so the Mini runs both the backend and the frontend .
If you like , you can see a full description [ boonstra.org ] of how I did it .
( The guide is out of date in the sense that I resolved jumpy playback issues by reducing the priority of commercial-flagging jobs .
) It 's been wonderful .
I get full HD video and convenient scheduling .
I 've had exactly zero crashes , and the automatic commercial skipping has been very reliable ( maybe one mistake every 5 or 10 shows ) .
I also really enjoy the ability to watch TV on any computer in the house.Right now , I 'm working here and there on integration with Plex [ plexapp.com ] because I 'd like to have all media in just one interface .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I set up an SVN snapshot of Myth on a Mac Mini about six months ago.
I wanted to save power, so the Mini runs both the backend and the frontend.
If you like, you can see a full description [boonstra.org] of how I did it.
(The guide is out of date in the sense that I resolved jumpy playback issues by reducing the priority of commercial-flagging jobs.
)It's been wonderful.
I get full HD video and convenient scheduling.
I've had exactly zero crashes, and the automatic commercial skipping has been very reliable (maybe one mistake every 5 or 10 shows).
I also really enjoy the ability to watch TV on any computer in the house.Right now, I'm working here and there on integration with Plex [plexapp.com] because I'd like to have all media in just one interface.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30030622</id>
	<title>Re:Is it still same config nightmare?</title>
	<author>Vitani</author>
	<datestamp>1257765600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're forgetting the biggest gripe - having to run X on a backend-only server <i>just</i> so that it can be configured</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're forgetting the biggest gripe - having to run X on a backend-only server just so that it can be configured</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're forgetting the biggest gripe - having to run X on a backend-only server just so that it can be configured</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30134334</id>
	<title>Re:.01 and the TV Myth</title>
	<author>WindShadow</author>
	<datestamp>1258450740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm with you, I'm trying to find a Linux TV application for a group (I support their servers to some extent), and the need to do database work is a stopper. Office workers do not want to hear <i>have your dba create...</i> These folks have been using xawtv and tvtime, but since the analog sound vanished they need a new application. They're even talking about going back to that other operating system on their desks.</p><p>They have a feed which is mixed analog and digital, with the digital requiring a SIM. Their hardware supports it, but they need an application. They want something their in-house support can install, and that pretty much means install a few RPMs, not database stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm with you , I 'm trying to find a Linux TV application for a group ( I support their servers to some extent ) , and the need to do database work is a stopper .
Office workers do not want to hear have your dba create... These folks have been using xawtv and tvtime , but since the analog sound vanished they need a new application .
They 're even talking about going back to that other operating system on their desks.They have a feed which is mixed analog and digital , with the digital requiring a SIM .
Their hardware supports it , but they need an application .
They want something their in-house support can install , and that pretty much means install a few RPMs , not database stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm with you, I'm trying to find a Linux TV application for a group (I support their servers to some extent), and the need to do database work is a stopper.
Office workers do not want to hear have your dba create... These folks have been using xawtv and tvtime, but since the analog sound vanished they need a new application.
They're even talking about going back to that other operating system on their desks.They have a feed which is mixed analog and digital, with the digital requiring a SIM.
Their hardware supports it, but they need an application.
They want something their in-house support can install, and that pretty much means install a few RPMs, not database stuff.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028618</id>
	<title>Can't wait for 1.0</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257700140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It should be amazing by then!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It should be amazing by then !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It should be amazing by then!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30033056</id>
	<title>Configuration: easy in some circumstances</title>
	<author>GlobalEcho</author>
	<datestamp>1257783240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My experience with configuring Myth was that it was very difficult to do on my Mac Pro (due to a bug in Myth that I think is now fixed).  But setting up Mythbuntu (both frontend and backend) on my laptop literally took me only about 15 minutes!  If you go with KnoppMyth or Mythbuntu, you can expect a pretty painless configuration process, just by accepting defaults for all but a few obvious screens.</p><p>Granted, this was using "easy" hardware in the form of an <a href="http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun" title="silicondust.com">HDHomeRun</a> [silicondust.com], so I had no video capture card to configure.  And my experience on the Mac Pro demonstrated to me that if you don't use a dedicated Linux distro, you will have to spend some serious time and effort.</p><p>Eventually, I <a href="http://public.boonstra.org/MacMiniHTPCSetup.html" title="boonstra.org">put everything</a> [boonstra.org] on a Mac Mini (running OSX Leopard) which has been working very nicely.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My experience with configuring Myth was that it was very difficult to do on my Mac Pro ( due to a bug in Myth that I think is now fixed ) .
But setting up Mythbuntu ( both frontend and backend ) on my laptop literally took me only about 15 minutes !
If you go with KnoppMyth or Mythbuntu , you can expect a pretty painless configuration process , just by accepting defaults for all but a few obvious screens.Granted , this was using " easy " hardware in the form of an HDHomeRun [ silicondust.com ] , so I had no video capture card to configure .
And my experience on the Mac Pro demonstrated to me that if you do n't use a dedicated Linux distro , you will have to spend some serious time and effort.Eventually , I put everything [ boonstra.org ] on a Mac Mini ( running OSX Leopard ) which has been working very nicely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My experience with configuring Myth was that it was very difficult to do on my Mac Pro (due to a bug in Myth that I think is now fixed).
But setting up Mythbuntu (both frontend and backend) on my laptop literally took me only about 15 minutes!
If you go with KnoppMyth or Mythbuntu, you can expect a pretty painless configuration process, just by accepting defaults for all but a few obvious screens.Granted, this was using "easy" hardware in the form of an HDHomeRun [silicondust.com], so I had no video capture card to configure.
And my experience on the Mac Pro demonstrated to me that if you don't use a dedicated Linux distro, you will have to spend some serious time and effort.Eventually, I put everything [boonstra.org] on a Mac Mini (running OSX Leopard) which has been working very nicely.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028780</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>Dalroth</author>
	<datestamp>1257701520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I ran MythTV for six years.  The last year I've used SageTV.  I got sick of MythTV locking up, crashing, and the constant non-stop twiddling with my configuration because I could never get things quite right.</p><p>SageTV isn't much better.  I spend a lot less time twiddling, but it crashes and freezes about as often as MythTV used to.  I'm still looking for that HTPC that just works.  I haven't found it yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ran MythTV for six years .
The last year I 've used SageTV .
I got sick of MythTV locking up , crashing , and the constant non-stop twiddling with my configuration because I could never get things quite right.SageTV is n't much better .
I spend a lot less time twiddling , but it crashes and freezes about as often as MythTV used to .
I 'm still looking for that HTPC that just works .
I have n't found it yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I ran MythTV for six years.
The last year I've used SageTV.
I got sick of MythTV locking up, crashing, and the constant non-stop twiddling with my configuration because I could never get things quite right.SageTV isn't much better.
I spend a lot less time twiddling, but it crashes and freezes about as often as MythTV used to.
I'm still looking for that HTPC that just works.
I haven't found it yet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30032456</id>
	<title>MythTV is great!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257780960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't really get all the comments below.<br>I've never had a problem with MythTV, besides some UTF-8 issues.</p><p>The only problems I've had, were due to drivers and/or documentation of the hardware. (Which kernel modules do I need?, what chipset does my tuner card use?, etc...)<br>MythTV itself has been running fairly well for the last 6 years in my household.</p><p>Yes, even the significant other uses it with delight. (We don't have a normal TV.)<br>So, if it works, don't try to fix it.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p><p>I use a frontend/backend system, where the backend shuts itself down when not in use for powersaving.<br>I have digital satellite, so basically mpeg2 and H.264 streams are received and saved to disk.<br>A small 30W Epia box is enough for my backend, and a Zotac ION system my frontend.<br>HDTV for not a lot of power.</p><p>The only downside is the availability of TV guide data.<br>There were some semi-legal options, but now I'm stuck with mc2xml, which gets its data from Microsoft, and boy this data sucks in comparision with what I had...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't really get all the comments below.I 've never had a problem with MythTV , besides some UTF-8 issues.The only problems I 've had , were due to drivers and/or documentation of the hardware .
( Which kernel modules do I need ? , what chipset does my tuner card use ? , etc... ) MythTV itself has been running fairly well for the last 6 years in my household.Yes , even the significant other uses it with delight .
( We do n't have a normal TV .
) So , if it works , do n't try to fix it .
; - ) I use a frontend/backend system , where the backend shuts itself down when not in use for powersaving.I have digital satellite , so basically mpeg2 and H.264 streams are received and saved to disk.A small 30W Epia box is enough for my backend , and a Zotac ION system my frontend.HDTV for not a lot of power.The only downside is the availability of TV guide data.There were some semi-legal options , but now I 'm stuck with mc2xml , which gets its data from Microsoft , and boy this data sucks in comparision with what I had.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't really get all the comments below.I've never had a problem with MythTV, besides some UTF-8 issues.The only problems I've had, were due to drivers and/or documentation of the hardware.
(Which kernel modules do I need?, what chipset does my tuner card use?, etc...)MythTV itself has been running fairly well for the last 6 years in my household.Yes, even the significant other uses it with delight.
(We don't have a normal TV.
)So, if it works, don't try to fix it.
;-)I use a frontend/backend system, where the backend shuts itself down when not in use for powersaving.I have digital satellite, so basically mpeg2 and H.264 streams are received and saved to disk.A small 30W Epia box is enough for my backend, and a Zotac ION system my frontend.HDTV for not a lot of power.The only downside is the availability of TV guide data.There were some semi-legal options, but now I'm stuck with mc2xml, which gets its data from Microsoft, and boy this data sucks in comparision with what I had...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029184</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>fatmatt\_oz</author>
	<datestamp>1257705360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>yes, the community is pretty active from what I've seen.
I've had mythtv running for 6 or 7 years and it's become a lot easier to set up. I think a lot of the noise about complaints from SWMBO you're talking about probably comes from mythtv being the entry into the linux world for a lot of people, people who are trying to learn a new OS as well as the intricacies of a fairly complex bit of software. The linux users I know who use it have really only had issues getting drivers/modules for dvb hardware that they thought was supported but after purchase find out the manufacturer has changed the chip types but not the model number! Most other issues they've had have been more general linux problems that manifested themselves in mythtv.

When I first set up myth there was no equivalent available commercially with all the features myth has. Combined with the usefulness of having a home server (filestore, ssh tunnels when I'm traveling, web based recording setup and a bunch of other stuff) I still don't think that there's something commercially available or windows based that would be able to replace it for me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>yes , the community is pretty active from what I 've seen .
I 've had mythtv running for 6 or 7 years and it 's become a lot easier to set up .
I think a lot of the noise about complaints from SWMBO you 're talking about probably comes from mythtv being the entry into the linux world for a lot of people , people who are trying to learn a new OS as well as the intricacies of a fairly complex bit of software .
The linux users I know who use it have really only had issues getting drivers/modules for dvb hardware that they thought was supported but after purchase find out the manufacturer has changed the chip types but not the model number !
Most other issues they 've had have been more general linux problems that manifested themselves in mythtv .
When I first set up myth there was no equivalent available commercially with all the features myth has .
Combined with the usefulness of having a home server ( filestore , ssh tunnels when I 'm traveling , web based recording setup and a bunch of other stuff ) I still do n't think that there 's something commercially available or windows based that would be able to replace it for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yes, the community is pretty active from what I've seen.
I've had mythtv running for 6 or 7 years and it's become a lot easier to set up.
I think a lot of the noise about complaints from SWMBO you're talking about probably comes from mythtv being the entry into the linux world for a lot of people, people who are trying to learn a new OS as well as the intricacies of a fairly complex bit of software.
The linux users I know who use it have really only had issues getting drivers/modules for dvb hardware that they thought was supported but after purchase find out the manufacturer has changed the chip types but not the model number!
Most other issues they've had have been more general linux problems that manifested themselves in mythtv.
When I first set up myth there was no equivalent available commercially with all the features myth has.
Combined with the usefulness of having a home server (filestore, ssh tunnels when I'm traveling, web based recording setup and a bunch of other stuff) I still don't think that there's something commercially available or windows based that would be able to replace it for me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30030854</id>
	<title>Re:mythtv website</title>
	<author>The Ultimate Fartkno</author>
	<datestamp>1257768720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>mythtv website got<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.ed it would seem.</p></div><p>So you're saying that the site is mything?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>mythtv website got /.ed it would seem.So you 're saying that the site is mything ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mythtv website got /.ed it would seem.So you're saying that the site is mything?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029264</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>tylernt</author>
	<datestamp>1257706980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I still use it, and it's reliable, but the 40 hours it took me to get this older version working has left me so scarred I don't dare do anything that might destabilize it (like upgrading). For me the upgrade path will be buying a whole new computer and capture device and spending another three weeks configuring the new version while I still have the old one working.</p><p>Have they fixed the behavior yet that you have to completely shut down your backend service in order to run the setup program to do a channel scan to find new channels? Because it sure would be nice to do that from your frontend without downtime. Especially when your backend is a headless box.</p><p>I know I shouldn't complain about free software, but my time isn't free and setting it up sure seemed to take a lot of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I still use it , and it 's reliable , but the 40 hours it took me to get this older version working has left me so scarred I do n't dare do anything that might destabilize it ( like upgrading ) .
For me the upgrade path will be buying a whole new computer and capture device and spending another three weeks configuring the new version while I still have the old one working.Have they fixed the behavior yet that you have to completely shut down your backend service in order to run the setup program to do a channel scan to find new channels ?
Because it sure would be nice to do that from your frontend without downtime .
Especially when your backend is a headless box.I know I should n't complain about free software , but my time is n't free and setting it up sure seemed to take a lot of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still use it, and it's reliable, but the 40 hours it took me to get this older version working has left me so scarred I don't dare do anything that might destabilize it (like upgrading).
For me the upgrade path will be buying a whole new computer and capture device and spending another three weeks configuring the new version while I still have the old one working.Have they fixed the behavior yet that you have to completely shut down your backend service in order to run the setup program to do a channel scan to find new channels?
Because it sure would be nice to do that from your frontend without downtime.
Especially when your backend is a headless box.I know I shouldn't complain about free software, but my time isn't free and setting it up sure seemed to take a lot of it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30030990</id>
	<title>Brightness knob</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257770820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wish there were a knob on the TV to turn up the intelligence.  There's a knob called "brightness," but that doesn't work.  ~Author Unknown</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish there were a knob on the TV to turn up the intelligence .
There 's a knob called " brightness , " but that does n't work .
~ Author Unknown</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish there were a knob on the TV to turn up the intelligence.
There's a knob called "brightness," but that doesn't work.
~Author Unknown</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028836</id>
	<title>Re:Can't wait for 1.0</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257702000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, like gazillion times better then WMC-7!<br>And sure enough it will finally support HDCP, 'cause without HDCP it is almost useless.<br>(no, my grans can't rip blurays from CLI)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , like gazillion times better then WMC-7 ! And sure enough it will finally support HDCP , 'cause without HDCP it is almost useless .
( no , my grans ca n't rip blurays from CLI )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, like gazillion times better then WMC-7!And sure enough it will finally support HDCP, 'cause without HDCP it is almost useless.
(no, my grans can't rip blurays from CLI)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30033288</id>
	<title>Sling Support</title>
	<author>hicks107</author>
	<datestamp>1257784200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does anybody know if there is any improvement to a slingbox style live tv over web feature? That would be cool.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anybody know if there is any improvement to a slingbox style live tv over web feature ?
That would be cool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anybody know if there is any improvement to a slingbox style live tv over web feature?
That would be cool.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028930</id>
	<title>Re:database</title>
	<author>swillden</author>
	<datestamp>1257702600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Did they fix the database encoding in this one?</p></div><p>That depends on what you mean by "fix".

</p><p>With MythTV 0.22, the database is expected to be configured with the UTF-8 character set.  If you're upgrading a database that has been used with a previous version (which required the database to use the latin1 character set), you need to <a href="http://wiki.mythtv.org/wiki/Fixing\_Corrupt\_Database\_Encoding" title="mythtv.org">fix your database</a> [mythtv.org].

</p><p>I would guess that if you're using MythTV as packaged by a major distro, by the time your distro delivers 0.22 it will probably handle the character set conversion automatically.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did they fix the database encoding in this one ? That depends on what you mean by " fix " .
With MythTV 0.22 , the database is expected to be configured with the UTF-8 character set .
If you 're upgrading a database that has been used with a previous version ( which required the database to use the latin1 character set ) , you need to fix your database [ mythtv.org ] .
I would guess that if you 're using MythTV as packaged by a major distro , by the time your distro delivers 0.22 it will probably handle the character set conversion automatically .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did they fix the database encoding in this one?That depends on what you mean by "fix".
With MythTV 0.22, the database is expected to be configured with the UTF-8 character set.
If you're upgrading a database that has been used with a previous version (which required the database to use the latin1 character set), you need to fix your database [mythtv.org].
I would guess that if you're using MythTV as packaged by a major distro, by the time your distro delivers 0.22 it will probably handle the character set conversion automatically.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029030</id>
	<title>Release Notes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257703680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <a href="http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release\_Notes\_-\_0.22" title="mythtv.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release\_Notes\_-\_0.22</a> [mythtv.org] </p><p>
  MythTV<br>New Features</p><p>
    * MythTV UI ported to new MythUI library with all new capabilities<br>
    * Added Automatic Prioritization to the scheduler which uses watching behavior to automatically increase priority of shows that are watched close to their recording timeslot over shows that are delayed for longer periods of time. See [16477] for details until the wiki page is populated.<br>
    * Added MPEG-2 support for ConvertX/GO7007 tuners in addition to the existing MPEG-4 support. [16538]<br>
    * Added new jump point for taking a screenshot and corresponding UPnP web method. [16532]. Network control also has this jumppoint [16613]<br>
    * Improved theme caching speed after a "make install" for users who update frequently. [16487]<br>
    * Added support for overriding the audio sampling rate in recording profiles on a per card basis. [16747]<br>
    * Support for the Hauppauge HD-PVR Component Video Recorder<br>
    * Vastly improved channel scanner<br>
    * Fanart, Banner, and coverart support in Watch Recordings<br>
    * VDPAU Video renderer and decoder for hardware accelerated playback of H.264, MPEG-1/2, WMV, and VC-1.<br>
    * Many software deinterlacers are now multithreaded<br>
    * New codec and container support from up-to-date ffmpeg libraries.<br>
    * Add support for DVB-S2 [21318]<br>
    * HDHomeRun multirec support<br>
    * Additional Myth Protocol socket functions, including file upload, deletion, and scanning of storage groups. [19979] [21134] [21156]<br>
    * Adds a popup dialog accessible from the main menu using MENU which allows the system to be shutdown or rebooted [20852]</p><p>EIT</p><p>
    * Fixed encoding for various french Astra 19.2E channels. [16792]<br>
    * Various Freesat EIT fixups<br>
    * UK EIT fixup - Adds handling of AD, S, SL and W tags in EIT data [20768]<br>
    * Fixed matching of programs for updating EIT data</p><p>Firewire</p><p>
    * Add Firewire Vendor &amp; Model ID's for PACE STBs [17149]<br>
    * Add Motorola DCH-3200 vendor ID<br>
    * Add DCT6200 vendor ID<br>
    * Add firewire and channel changing support for the DCX3200 model STB [21514]</p><p>UPNP</p><p>
    * More exhaustive MIME test [17155]</p><p>Setup</p><p>
    * Allows input groups to work properly when each recorder has more than one input and so can be in multiple mutually exclusive input groups. [17172]<br>
    * Add commandline scanner [17175] plus many more changesets<br>
    * Adds option to mythtv-setup to disable automatic database backup before database upgrades [17479] (ensure you do a manual backup before upgrade if this is enabled)<br>
    * Add HD-PVR support [17493]<br>
    * Add support for multiple frontends per DVB adaptor [17832]<br>
    * Add scanning support for DVB-S2 [21317], [21318]<br>
    * Add a spinbox for specifying a value for the "LiveTV Idle Timeout" setting [21378]<br>
    * Channel scanner - add option to set off air channels invisble [21691]<br>
    * Channel scanner - Allow basic channel scanning with DVB version of HDHomeRun [21858]<br>
    * Offer to automatically shutdown backend at start</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release \ _Notes \ _- \ _0.22 [ mythtv.org ] MythTVNew Features * MythTV UI ported to new MythUI library with all new capabilities * Added Automatic Prioritization to the scheduler which uses watching behavior to automatically increase priority of shows that are watched close to their recording timeslot over shows that are delayed for longer periods of time .
See [ 16477 ] for details until the wiki page is populated .
* Added MPEG-2 support for ConvertX/GO7007 tuners in addition to the existing MPEG-4 support .
[ 16538 ] * Added new jump point for taking a screenshot and corresponding UPnP web method .
[ 16532 ] . Network control also has this jumppoint [ 16613 ] * Improved theme caching speed after a " make install " for users who update frequently .
[ 16487 ] * Added support for overriding the audio sampling rate in recording profiles on a per card basis .
[ 16747 ] * Support for the Hauppauge HD-PVR Component Video Recorder * Vastly improved channel scanner * Fanart , Banner , and coverart support in Watch Recordings * VDPAU Video renderer and decoder for hardware accelerated playback of H.264 , MPEG-1/2 , WMV , and VC-1 .
* Many software deinterlacers are now multithreaded * New codec and container support from up-to-date ffmpeg libraries .
* Add support for DVB-S2 [ 21318 ] * HDHomeRun multirec support * Additional Myth Protocol socket functions , including file upload , deletion , and scanning of storage groups .
[ 19979 ] [ 21134 ] [ 21156 ] * Adds a popup dialog accessible from the main menu using MENU which allows the system to be shutdown or rebooted [ 20852 ] EIT * Fixed encoding for various french Astra 19.2E channels .
[ 16792 ] * Various Freesat EIT fixups * UK EIT fixup - Adds handling of AD , S , SL and W tags in EIT data [ 20768 ] * Fixed matching of programs for updating EIT dataFirewire * Add Firewire Vendor &amp; Model ID 's for PACE STBs [ 17149 ] * Add Motorola DCH-3200 vendor ID * Add DCT6200 vendor ID * Add firewire and channel changing support for the DCX3200 model STB [ 21514 ] UPNP * More exhaustive MIME test [ 17155 ] Setup * Allows input groups to work properly when each recorder has more than one input and so can be in multiple mutually exclusive input groups .
[ 17172 ] * Add commandline scanner [ 17175 ] plus many more changesets * Adds option to mythtv-setup to disable automatic database backup before database upgrades [ 17479 ] ( ensure you do a manual backup before upgrade if this is enabled ) * Add HD-PVR support [ 17493 ] * Add support for multiple frontends per DVB adaptor [ 17832 ] * Add scanning support for DVB-S2 [ 21317 ] , [ 21318 ] * Add a spinbox for specifying a value for the " LiveTV Idle Timeout " setting [ 21378 ] * Channel scanner - add option to set off air channels invisble [ 21691 ] * Channel scanner - Allow basic channel scanning with DVB version of HDHomeRun [ 21858 ] * Offer to automatically shutdown backend at start</tokentext>
<sentencetext> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release\_Notes\_-\_0.22 [mythtv.org] 
  MythTVNew Features
    * MythTV UI ported to new MythUI library with all new capabilities
    * Added Automatic Prioritization to the scheduler which uses watching behavior to automatically increase priority of shows that are watched close to their recording timeslot over shows that are delayed for longer periods of time.
See [16477] for details until the wiki page is populated.
* Added MPEG-2 support for ConvertX/GO7007 tuners in addition to the existing MPEG-4 support.
[16538]
    * Added new jump point for taking a screenshot and corresponding UPnP web method.
[16532]. Network control also has this jumppoint [16613]
    * Improved theme caching speed after a "make install" for users who update frequently.
[16487]
    * Added support for overriding the audio sampling rate in recording profiles on a per card basis.
[16747]
    * Support for the Hauppauge HD-PVR Component Video Recorder
    * Vastly improved channel scanner
    * Fanart, Banner, and coverart support in Watch Recordings
    * VDPAU Video renderer and decoder for hardware accelerated playback of H.264, MPEG-1/2, WMV, and VC-1.
* Many software deinterlacers are now multithreaded
    * New codec and container support from up-to-date ffmpeg libraries.
* Add support for DVB-S2 [21318]
    * HDHomeRun multirec support
    * Additional Myth Protocol socket functions, including file upload, deletion, and scanning of storage groups.
[19979] [21134] [21156]
    * Adds a popup dialog accessible from the main menu using MENU which allows the system to be shutdown or rebooted [20852]EIT
    * Fixed encoding for various french Astra 19.2E channels.
[16792]
    * Various Freesat EIT fixups
    * UK EIT fixup - Adds handling of AD, S, SL and W tags in EIT data [20768]
    * Fixed matching of programs for updating EIT dataFirewire
    * Add Firewire Vendor &amp; Model ID's for PACE STBs [17149]
    * Add Motorola DCH-3200 vendor ID
    * Add DCT6200 vendor ID
    * Add firewire and channel changing support for the DCX3200 model STB [21514]UPNP
    * More exhaustive MIME test [17155]Setup
    * Allows input groups to work properly when each recorder has more than one input and so can be in multiple mutually exclusive input groups.
[17172]
    * Add commandline scanner [17175] plus many more changesets
    * Adds option to mythtv-setup to disable automatic database backup before database upgrades [17479] (ensure you do a manual backup before upgrade if this is enabled)
    * Add HD-PVR support [17493]
    * Add support for multiple frontends per DVB adaptor [17832]
    * Add scanning support for DVB-S2 [21317], [21318]
    * Add a spinbox for specifying a value for the "LiveTV Idle Timeout" setting [21378]
    * Channel scanner - add option to set off air channels invisble [21691]
    * Channel scanner - Allow basic channel scanning with DVB version of HDHomeRun [21858]
    * Offer to automatically shutdown backend at start</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029076</id>
	<title>Re:.01 Really?</title>
	<author>coldmist</author>
	<datestamp>1257704100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's just a number.  Really.</p><p>Would it matter if it was going from version 2007 to 2009 (like MS office)? That's only a 0.1\% change.  At least<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.21 to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22 is a 4.5\% change!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's just a number .
Really.Would it matter if it was going from version 2007 to 2009 ( like MS office ) ?
That 's only a 0.1 \ % change .
At least .21 to .22 is a 4.5 \ % change !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's just a number.
Really.Would it matter if it was going from version 2007 to 2009 (like MS office)?
That's only a 0.1\% change.
At least .21 to .22 is a 4.5\% change!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30033656</id>
	<title>Playing Blu-Ray Discs</title>
	<author>sshirley</author>
	<datestamp>1257785640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now has MythTV or Linux in general gotten better at playing Blu-Ray discs? That's really what holding me back from giving 0.22 a try (I use Win 7 Media Center now having switched from MythTV over a year ago). I really hate the idea of copying a BD to HD in order to play it.

Plus VDPAU sounds great, but it is really only for NVIDA cards? I'm happy with my ATI Radeon HD. Where's the love for ATI?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now has MythTV or Linux in general gotten better at playing Blu-Ray discs ?
That 's really what holding me back from giving 0.22 a try ( I use Win 7 Media Center now having switched from MythTV over a year ago ) .
I really hate the idea of copying a BD to HD in order to play it .
Plus VDPAU sounds great , but it is really only for NVIDA cards ?
I 'm happy with my ATI Radeon HD .
Where 's the love for ATI ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now has MythTV or Linux in general gotten better at playing Blu-Ray discs?
That's really what holding me back from giving 0.22 a try (I use Win 7 Media Center now having switched from MythTV over a year ago).
I really hate the idea of copying a BD to HD in order to play it.
Plus VDPAU sounds great, but it is really only for NVIDA cards?
I'm happy with my ATI Radeon HD.
Where's the love for ATI?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30040060</id>
	<title>Re:.01 Really?</title>
	<author>Trogre</author>
	<datestamp>1257769980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree this merits more than a 0.01 increment.  However this change isn't going from MythTV 0.2.1 -&gt; 0.2.2, it's 0.21 -&gt; 0.22 which, in the software version world, equates to minor number 22, not 2.  Remember we're not talking about a single-point decimal system here.</p><p>Another example - my system is currently running Linux kernel 2.6.30, which is quite different from version 2.6.3</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree this merits more than a 0.01 increment .
However this change is n't going from MythTV 0.2.1 - &gt; 0.2.2 , it 's 0.21 - &gt; 0.22 which , in the software version world , equates to minor number 22 , not 2 .
Remember we 're not talking about a single-point decimal system here.Another example - my system is currently running Linux kernel 2.6.30 , which is quite different from version 2.6.3</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree this merits more than a 0.01 increment.
However this change isn't going from MythTV 0.2.1 -&gt; 0.2.2, it's 0.21 -&gt; 0.22 which, in the software version world, equates to minor number 22, not 2.
Remember we're not talking about a single-point decimal system here.Another example - my system is currently running Linux kernel 2.6.30, which is quite different from version 2.6.3</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029052</id>
	<title>Agreed - Just Being Honest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257703860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope it's not considered "flamebait" to have some constructive criticism and color commentary of how various software projects are going. Well, let's find out, as I try to explain what has historically awaited the mythtv user.</p><p>MythTV has basically been a trick on people who wanted a DVR. It has great screenshots, a wonderful feature list, and when started, it sometimes even \_appears\_ to work. Then you try to use it. Hilarious really.</p><p>The myth developer inner circle (Isaac, etc) spent several years and could not get MPEGs (from TV or DVDs) playing reliably. Of course, they would never dream of reusing any of the mountains of code that do this correctly already. Perhaps this was not considered important in a DVR.  To make their UI, they stitched together a flickery, non-responsive interface in qt, complete with the world's most painful and buggy music player, and a metadata management interface designed to conceal from the novice that perl scripts and SQL commands are going to be part of your life. For extra fun, and to fill out the feature list, their little potemkin village includes things like a DVD ripper and a netflix queue management front-end. If you are in the mood for laughs, try using one of these for their intended function.</p><p>Yes, in this release they finally refactored some of that in late 2009 - honing the trick even further. Since by now their reputation precedes them, they need to make bizarre failures, crashes, and pathetic video performance issues slightly less frequent and more subtle. Throw in a few more bits of unreliable graphical flair, just to lure a few more suckers. Don't worry - you will still come to your mythbuntu machine and find it displaying yesterday's date - once again proving the on-screen clock to be the most reliable part of the system - for determining when you crashed.</p><p>It's actually quite understandable why their code would be a complete wreck for so many years on end - they had to devote all their energy to a scheme to charge myth users for TV schedule information. Priorities.</p><p>Not that any of these problems were noticed much, since over the past few years, most of the underlying drivers for both video capture and display have been in such a pathetic state that, should someone insist that Linux is stable or performant, you simply assign them the task of using it to record and play back television - with hilarious results.</p><p>Oh yes, "it's better now" - with the bar as low as it was, this is not really a very meaningful statement.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Thinking of making a linux DVR with mythtv? Run, run for the hills.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope it 's not considered " flamebait " to have some constructive criticism and color commentary of how various software projects are going .
Well , let 's find out , as I try to explain what has historically awaited the mythtv user.MythTV has basically been a trick on people who wanted a DVR .
It has great screenshots , a wonderful feature list , and when started , it sometimes even \ _appears \ _ to work .
Then you try to use it .
Hilarious really.The myth developer inner circle ( Isaac , etc ) spent several years and could not get MPEGs ( from TV or DVDs ) playing reliably .
Of course , they would never dream of reusing any of the mountains of code that do this correctly already .
Perhaps this was not considered important in a DVR .
To make their UI , they stitched together a flickery , non-responsive interface in qt , complete with the world 's most painful and buggy music player , and a metadata management interface designed to conceal from the novice that perl scripts and SQL commands are going to be part of your life .
For extra fun , and to fill out the feature list , their little potemkin village includes things like a DVD ripper and a netflix queue management front-end .
If you are in the mood for laughs , try using one of these for their intended function.Yes , in this release they finally refactored some of that in late 2009 - honing the trick even further .
Since by now their reputation precedes them , they need to make bizarre failures , crashes , and pathetic video performance issues slightly less frequent and more subtle .
Throw in a few more bits of unreliable graphical flair , just to lure a few more suckers .
Do n't worry - you will still come to your mythbuntu machine and find it displaying yesterday 's date - once again proving the on-screen clock to be the most reliable part of the system - for determining when you crashed.It 's actually quite understandable why their code would be a complete wreck for so many years on end - they had to devote all their energy to a scheme to charge myth users for TV schedule information .
Priorities.Not that any of these problems were noticed much , since over the past few years , most of the underlying drivers for both video capture and display have been in such a pathetic state that , should someone insist that Linux is stable or performant , you simply assign them the task of using it to record and play back television - with hilarious results.Oh yes , " it 's better now " - with the bar as low as it was , this is not really a very meaningful statement .
: ) Thinking of making a linux DVR with mythtv ?
Run , run for the hills .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope it's not considered "flamebait" to have some constructive criticism and color commentary of how various software projects are going.
Well, let's find out, as I try to explain what has historically awaited the mythtv user.MythTV has basically been a trick on people who wanted a DVR.
It has great screenshots, a wonderful feature list, and when started, it sometimes even \_appears\_ to work.
Then you try to use it.
Hilarious really.The myth developer inner circle (Isaac, etc) spent several years and could not get MPEGs (from TV or DVDs) playing reliably.
Of course, they would never dream of reusing any of the mountains of code that do this correctly already.
Perhaps this was not considered important in a DVR.
To make their UI, they stitched together a flickery, non-responsive interface in qt, complete with the world's most painful and buggy music player, and a metadata management interface designed to conceal from the novice that perl scripts and SQL commands are going to be part of your life.
For extra fun, and to fill out the feature list, their little potemkin village includes things like a DVD ripper and a netflix queue management front-end.
If you are in the mood for laughs, try using one of these for their intended function.Yes, in this release they finally refactored some of that in late 2009 - honing the trick even further.
Since by now their reputation precedes them, they need to make bizarre failures, crashes, and pathetic video performance issues slightly less frequent and more subtle.
Throw in a few more bits of unreliable graphical flair, just to lure a few more suckers.
Don't worry - you will still come to your mythbuntu machine and find it displaying yesterday's date - once again proving the on-screen clock to be the most reliable part of the system - for determining when you crashed.It's actually quite understandable why their code would be a complete wreck for so many years on end - they had to devote all their energy to a scheme to charge myth users for TV schedule information.
Priorities.Not that any of these problems were noticed much, since over the past few years, most of the underlying drivers for both video capture and display have been in such a pathetic state that, should someone insist that Linux is stable or performant, you simply assign them the task of using it to record and play back television - with hilarious results.Oh yes, "it's better now" - with the bar as low as it was, this is not really a very meaningful statement.
:)Thinking of making a linux DVR with mythtv?
Run, run for the hills.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029478</id>
	<title>Re:database</title>
	<author>wagnerrp</author>
	<datestamp>1257709800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you're upgrading a database that has been used with a previous version (which required the database to use the latin1 character set), you need to fix your database.</p></div><p>Not exactly.  The various MythTV binaries are supposed to cleanly update any 0.21 database to 0.22.  The character set conversion issue described on that page is due to the default MySQL settings as shipped with Gentoo.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're upgrading a database that has been used with a previous version ( which required the database to use the latin1 character set ) , you need to fix your database.Not exactly .
The various MythTV binaries are supposed to cleanly update any 0.21 database to 0.22 .
The character set conversion issue described on that page is due to the default MySQL settings as shipped with Gentoo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're upgrading a database that has been used with a previous version (which required the database to use the latin1 character set), you need to fix your database.Not exactly.
The various MythTV binaries are supposed to cleanly update any 0.21 database to 0.22.
The character set conversion issue described on that page is due to the default MySQL settings as shipped with Gentoo.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029148</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>Max Littlemore</author>
	<datestamp>1257704880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been running it for ages without major problems. The only problem I have is every time I upgrade the kernel I need to rebuild the driver for my tuner, but that's no biggy - got that scripted - and it's nothing to do with MythTV per se.</p><p>Sure, it was a bitch to set up the first time, but since then it's been stable and awesome and having done it once, I'm pretty quick at setting it up for others.</p><p>I too use XBMC, but only as a quick and dirty way of using an Xbox as a frontend. It just doesn't come close as a PVR.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been running it for ages without major problems .
The only problem I have is every time I upgrade the kernel I need to rebuild the driver for my tuner , but that 's no biggy - got that scripted - and it 's nothing to do with MythTV per se.Sure , it was a bitch to set up the first time , but since then it 's been stable and awesome and having done it once , I 'm pretty quick at setting it up for others.I too use XBMC , but only as a quick and dirty way of using an Xbox as a frontend .
It just does n't come close as a PVR .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been running it for ages without major problems.
The only problem I have is every time I upgrade the kernel I need to rebuild the driver for my tuner, but that's no biggy - got that scripted - and it's nothing to do with MythTV per se.Sure, it was a bitch to set up the first time, but since then it's been stable and awesome and having done it once, I'm pretty quick at setting it up for others.I too use XBMC, but only as a quick and dirty way of using an Xbox as a frontend.
It just doesn't come close as a PVR.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30032812</id>
	<title>Upgraded months ago</title>
	<author>mnbjhguyt</author>
	<datestamp>1257782220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>after four years of mythtv a few months ago I upgraded to VDR (http://www.linuxtv.org/vdrwiki/index.php/Main\_Page)</p><p>I always avoided it since I wanted the 'noisy backend in basement' and 'silent frontend in living room' separation, and I thought it was exclusive to mythtv. In reality, vdr handles it much better and on lower hardware specs.</p><p>and for all of the non-tv features, xbmc takes care of them very nicely.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>after four years of mythtv a few months ago I upgraded to VDR ( http : //www.linuxtv.org/vdrwiki/index.php/Main \ _Page ) I always avoided it since I wanted the 'noisy backend in basement ' and 'silent frontend in living room ' separation , and I thought it was exclusive to mythtv .
In reality , vdr handles it much better and on lower hardware specs.and for all of the non-tv features , xbmc takes care of them very nicely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>after four years of mythtv a few months ago I upgraded to VDR (http://www.linuxtv.org/vdrwiki/index.php/Main\_Page)I always avoided it since I wanted the 'noisy backend in basement' and 'silent frontend in living room' separation, and I thought it was exclusive to mythtv.
In reality, vdr handles it much better and on lower hardware specs.and for all of the non-tv features, xbmc takes care of them very nicely.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029066</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>nachomama</author>
	<datestamp>1257703920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My MythTV setup crashed a 2-3 times per week for several months.  I eventually discovered that it was the Linux driver for my StreamZap LIRC receiver.  I replaced it with a serial-based receiver, and haven't had a crash since.</p><p>What I'm saying, it's probably a hardware/driver problem, not a MythTV problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My MythTV setup crashed a 2-3 times per week for several months .
I eventually discovered that it was the Linux driver for my StreamZap LIRC receiver .
I replaced it with a serial-based receiver , and have n't had a crash since.What I 'm saying , it 's probably a hardware/driver problem , not a MythTV problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My MythTV setup crashed a 2-3 times per week for several months.
I eventually discovered that it was the Linux driver for my StreamZap LIRC receiver.
I replaced it with a serial-based receiver, and haven't had a crash since.What I'm saying, it's probably a hardware/driver problem, not a MythTV problem.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30032118</id>
	<title>Re:mythtv website</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257779400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because that denies us our malicious glee because we got everyone else to take down a website?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because that denies us our malicious glee because we got everyone else to take down a website ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because that denies us our malicious glee because we got everyone else to take down a website?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30031246</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257774000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use it, I love it, it works rock solid for me. My only complaint is that my disk is almost full of my kids' videos. The MythTV box sits in my office, have an old Xbox running XBMC in the living room as a front end. I've been running it for 3 1/2 years now. Would not do without it! I run MythDora on older hardware with SDTV only. Never do any tweaking to the thing. Have had 1 database hiccup that was fixed via a post in the MythDora forums.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use it , I love it , it works rock solid for me .
My only complaint is that my disk is almost full of my kids ' videos .
The MythTV box sits in my office , have an old Xbox running XBMC in the living room as a front end .
I 've been running it for 3 1/2 years now .
Would not do without it !
I run MythDora on older hardware with SDTV only .
Never do any tweaking to the thing .
Have had 1 database hiccup that was fixed via a post in the MythDora forums .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use it, I love it, it works rock solid for me.
My only complaint is that my disk is almost full of my kids' videos.
The MythTV box sits in my office, have an old Xbox running XBMC in the living room as a front end.
I've been running it for 3 1/2 years now.
Would not do without it!
I run MythDora on older hardware with SDTV only.
Never do any tweaking to the thing.
Have had 1 database hiccup that was fixed via a post in the MythDora forums.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029206</id>
	<title>Re:.01 and the TV Myth</title>
	<author>dgatwood</author>
	<datestamp>1257705720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The reality is you spend all your time fiddling with it and cursing at it until your head is so bloody from banging it up against a brick wall that you give up and decide to give up TV altogether.</p></div></blockquote><p>Close.  The reality is that you spend so much time banging your head up against a brick wall that you just think you're watching TV.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The reality is you spend all your time fiddling with it and cursing at it until your head is so bloody from banging it up against a brick wall that you give up and decide to give up TV altogether.Close .
The reality is that you spend so much time banging your head up against a brick wall that you just think you 're watching TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reality is you spend all your time fiddling with it and cursing at it until your head is so bloody from banging it up against a brick wall that you give up and decide to give up TV altogether.Close.
The reality is that you spend so much time banging your head up against a brick wall that you just think you're watching TV.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30031676</id>
	<title>2(anecdote)=data ?</title>
	<author>Gothmolly</author>
	<datestamp>1257776820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Knoppmyth works perfectly for me - I have 3 tuners, a 1TB RAID array, Schedules Direct, and I also stream it to a frontend running on my Mac.</p><p>There's a billion fora out there about Mythtv - basically, use supported hardware, and you are fine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Knoppmyth works perfectly for me - I have 3 tuners , a 1TB RAID array , Schedules Direct , and I also stream it to a frontend running on my Mac.There 's a billion fora out there about Mythtv - basically , use supported hardware , and you are fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Knoppmyth works perfectly for me - I have 3 tuners, a 1TB RAID array, Schedules Direct, and I also stream it to a frontend running on my Mac.There's a billion fora out there about Mythtv - basically, use supported hardware, and you are fine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30030216</id>
	<title>Re:.01 Really?</title>
	<author>JohnBailey</author>
	<datestamp>1257760620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Really, if the version numbers are going to be this meaningless for tracking significant changes they should at least name them or come up with some other system. Something that let's people get interested and involved in the project and excited about the new release.</p></div><p>Since when have version numbers been consistently meaningful across more than one project/program? Just do like everybody else and see a new version number as an indicator that there is something different from the last version. Version numbers ARE meaningless.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Really , if the version numbers are going to be this meaningless for tracking significant changes they should at least name them or come up with some other system .
Something that let 's people get interested and involved in the project and excited about the new release.Since when have version numbers been consistently meaningful across more than one project/program ?
Just do like everybody else and see a new version number as an indicator that there is something different from the last version .
Version numbers ARE meaningless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really, if the version numbers are going to be this meaningless for tracking significant changes they should at least name them or come up with some other system.
Something that let's people get interested and involved in the project and excited about the new release.Since when have version numbers been consistently meaningful across more than one project/program?
Just do like everybody else and see a new version number as an indicator that there is something different from the last version.
Version numbers ARE meaningless.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30038804</id>
	<title>Re:mythtv website</title>
	<author>oatworm</author>
	<datestamp>1257763680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No.  That's a myth conception.  The site is still there.  It just won't respond due to our linking myth adventures.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
That 's a myth conception .
The site is still there .
It just wo n't respond due to our linking myth adventures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
That's a myth conception.
The site is still there.
It just won't respond due to our linking myth adventures.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30033304</id>
	<title>Re:database</title>
	<author>swillden</author>
	<datestamp>1257784200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>If you're upgrading a database that has been used with a previous version (which required the database to use the latin1 character set), you need to fix your database.</p></div><p>Not exactly.  The various MythTV binaries are supposed to cleanly update any 0.21 database to 0.22.  The character set conversion issue described on that page is due to the default MySQL settings as shipped with Gentoo.</p></div><p>Thanks for the correction.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're upgrading a database that has been used with a previous version ( which required the database to use the latin1 character set ) , you need to fix your database.Not exactly .
The various MythTV binaries are supposed to cleanly update any 0.21 database to 0.22 .
The character set conversion issue described on that page is due to the default MySQL settings as shipped with Gentoo.Thanks for the correction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're upgrading a database that has been used with a previous version (which required the database to use the latin1 character set), you need to fix your database.Not exactly.
The various MythTV binaries are supposed to cleanly update any 0.21 database to 0.22.
The character set conversion issue described on that page is due to the default MySQL settings as shipped with Gentoo.Thanks for the correction.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029478</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028974</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>gregmac</author>
	<datestamp>1257703200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm going through the same. I've been using Myth for maybe 3 or 4 years (starting with 0.20-beta something). It was relatively stable, but did crash once in a while. Mostly what was driving me insane is for the past few months, it would stop responding to the remote for a few minutes, then suddenly play back everything that just happened. So you'd hit fast-forward, and nothing would happen.. hit a couple more times... then suddenly a few minutes later, it would skip forward several times. Lirc was seeing the commands in realtime, so I have no idea what the problem was. It was intermittent, and I never found a common thing that was happening at the same time.</p><p>I've built a new Windows box now, and I'm currently trying GBPVR, and SageTV. Myth's UI is better than SageTV's.. GBPVR is a lot like myth. Myth has better recording options than both. Sage has sub-$200 fanless network client hardware, which has the same UI as the main box - this is a HUGE plus. You can't build a PC for that price, let alone a silent PC, and any other options have a different UI which is just annoying. Myth is the only one I know of that supports multiple backends (not needed for me now, but it's a sign of a good design and allows expandability).</p><p>Taking away constraints of OS/software, there is just no solution that leads to a great networked PVR system out there yet, in my opinion. To clarify, I'm not looking for a HTPC - I want a UI, consistent on every TV in my house, that lets me watch live TV (not that I ever do that), watch and/or schedule recordings (and have any available on any TV), watch DVDs, watch downloaded movies/shows, listen to music (both stored and streaming), and things like pictures and weather reports are kinda handy too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm going through the same .
I 've been using Myth for maybe 3 or 4 years ( starting with 0.20-beta something ) .
It was relatively stable , but did crash once in a while .
Mostly what was driving me insane is for the past few months , it would stop responding to the remote for a few minutes , then suddenly play back everything that just happened .
So you 'd hit fast-forward , and nothing would happen.. hit a couple more times... then suddenly a few minutes later , it would skip forward several times .
Lirc was seeing the commands in realtime , so I have no idea what the problem was .
It was intermittent , and I never found a common thing that was happening at the same time.I 've built a new Windows box now , and I 'm currently trying GBPVR , and SageTV .
Myth 's UI is better than SageTV 's.. GBPVR is a lot like myth .
Myth has better recording options than both .
Sage has sub- $ 200 fanless network client hardware , which has the same UI as the main box - this is a HUGE plus .
You ca n't build a PC for that price , let alone a silent PC , and any other options have a different UI which is just annoying .
Myth is the only one I know of that supports multiple backends ( not needed for me now , but it 's a sign of a good design and allows expandability ) .Taking away constraints of OS/software , there is just no solution that leads to a great networked PVR system out there yet , in my opinion .
To clarify , I 'm not looking for a HTPC - I want a UI , consistent on every TV in my house , that lets me watch live TV ( not that I ever do that ) , watch and/or schedule recordings ( and have any available on any TV ) , watch DVDs , watch downloaded movies/shows , listen to music ( both stored and streaming ) , and things like pictures and weather reports are kinda handy too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm going through the same.
I've been using Myth for maybe 3 or 4 years (starting with 0.20-beta something).
It was relatively stable, but did crash once in a while.
Mostly what was driving me insane is for the past few months, it would stop responding to the remote for a few minutes, then suddenly play back everything that just happened.
So you'd hit fast-forward, and nothing would happen.. hit a couple more times... then suddenly a few minutes later, it would skip forward several times.
Lirc was seeing the commands in realtime, so I have no idea what the problem was.
It was intermittent, and I never found a common thing that was happening at the same time.I've built a new Windows box now, and I'm currently trying GBPVR, and SageTV.
Myth's UI is better than SageTV's.. GBPVR is a lot like myth.
Myth has better recording options than both.
Sage has sub-$200 fanless network client hardware, which has the same UI as the main box - this is a HUGE plus.
You can't build a PC for that price, let alone a silent PC, and any other options have a different UI which is just annoying.
Myth is the only one I know of that supports multiple backends (not needed for me now, but it's a sign of a good design and allows expandability).Taking away constraints of OS/software, there is just no solution that leads to a great networked PVR system out there yet, in my opinion.
To clarify, I'm not looking for a HTPC - I want a UI, consistent on every TV in my house, that lets me watch live TV (not that I ever do that), watch and/or schedule recordings (and have any available on any TV), watch DVDs, watch downloaded movies/shows, listen to music (both stored and streaming), and things like pictures and weather reports are kinda handy too.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Fashion from here,nike jordan shoes,coach,gucci,</title>
	<author>huangzhixian1204</author>
	<datestamp>1257783000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30036836</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>Phoobarnvaz</author>
	<datestamp>1257798540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I ran MythTV for six years.  The last year I've used SageTV.  I got sick of MythTV locking up, crashing, and the constant non-stop twiddling with my configuration because I could never get things quite right.</p></div><p>
Have attempted to run MythTV...along with other "Myth----" varieties. No matter what version I've installed &amp; attempted to run...with webpages &amp; books to help with setting up/configuring the software...could never get MythTV to record anything at all.<br> <br>
Being a former computer tech/advanced user having experience with Linux since the 1990's...the biggest reason MythTV is not overtaking anything on Windows is due to the fact that I can install &amp; configure ANY Windows PVR program in less than 30 minutes. At the end of that 30 minutes...am recording programs with no glitches or problems. Can MythTV do this now or even in the future? The answer is no. When I can install numerous versions of Linux...Windows...DOS...BSD or even QNX and using almost all of the applications as soon as the desktop comes up...why should MythTV be any different? It doesn't need to be.<br> <br>
As soon as MythTV becomes as easy to use as GBPVR under Windows 2000/XP...I will run it. The designers don't/will not understand this. If I want to use my computer for a moon landing with all the issues that come with it...I'll work for NASA. I and others just want to record our shows without constant worry that the software will even work.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ran MythTV for six years .
The last year I 've used SageTV .
I got sick of MythTV locking up , crashing , and the constant non-stop twiddling with my configuration because I could never get things quite right .
Have attempted to run MythTV...along with other " Myth---- " varieties .
No matter what version I 've installed &amp; attempted to run...with webpages &amp; books to help with setting up/configuring the software...could never get MythTV to record anything at all .
Being a former computer tech/advanced user having experience with Linux since the 1990 's...the biggest reason MythTV is not overtaking anything on Windows is due to the fact that I can install &amp; configure ANY Windows PVR program in less than 30 minutes .
At the end of that 30 minutes...am recording programs with no glitches or problems .
Can MythTV do this now or even in the future ?
The answer is no .
When I can install numerous versions of Linux...Windows...DOS...BSD or even QNX and using almost all of the applications as soon as the desktop comes up...why should MythTV be any different ?
It does n't need to be .
As soon as MythTV becomes as easy to use as GBPVR under Windows 2000/XP...I will run it .
The designers do n't/will not understand this .
If I want to use my computer for a moon landing with all the issues that come with it...I 'll work for NASA .
I and others just want to record our shows without constant worry that the software will even work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I ran MythTV for six years.
The last year I've used SageTV.
I got sick of MythTV locking up, crashing, and the constant non-stop twiddling with my configuration because I could never get things quite right.
Have attempted to run MythTV...along with other "Myth----" varieties.
No matter what version I've installed &amp; attempted to run...with webpages &amp; books to help with setting up/configuring the software...could never get MythTV to record anything at all.
Being a former computer tech/advanced user having experience with Linux since the 1990's...the biggest reason MythTV is not overtaking anything on Windows is due to the fact that I can install &amp; configure ANY Windows PVR program in less than 30 minutes.
At the end of that 30 minutes...am recording programs with no glitches or problems.
Can MythTV do this now or even in the future?
The answer is no.
When I can install numerous versions of Linux...Windows...DOS...BSD or even QNX and using almost all of the applications as soon as the desktop comes up...why should MythTV be any different?
It doesn't need to be.
As soon as MythTV becomes as easy to use as GBPVR under Windows 2000/XP...I will run it.
The designers don't/will not understand this.
If I want to use my computer for a moon landing with all the issues that come with it...I'll work for NASA.
I and others just want to record our shows without constant worry that the software will even work.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028638</id>
	<title>database</title>
	<author>visualight</author>
	<datestamp>1257700260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did they fix the database encoding in this one?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did they fix the database encoding in this one ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did they fix the database encoding in this one?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30031334</id>
	<title>Databases incompatible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257774660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People might be interested to know the Mythtv 0.22 database is incompatible with 0.21. I noticed this when trying to hook up a frontend on Karmic to a backend on Jaunty, both machines using the packages from the repositories. Given the well-documented issues going from Jaunty to Karmic, I did not want to upgrade the backend, so I did the following on the Karmic client:</p><p>- Install frontend 0.22 and dependencies<br>- Remove all packages that have 'mythtv' in their name (3 in total)<br>- Installed Jaunty<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.debs from Launchpad in their place (you will need to satisfy one additional dependency) and locked their version in Synaptic.</p><p>Beats manually installing all dependencies for the Jaunty packages (I could not find a repo).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People might be interested to know the Mythtv 0.22 database is incompatible with 0.21 .
I noticed this when trying to hook up a frontend on Karmic to a backend on Jaunty , both machines using the packages from the repositories .
Given the well-documented issues going from Jaunty to Karmic , I did not want to upgrade the backend , so I did the following on the Karmic client : - Install frontend 0.22 and dependencies- Remove all packages that have 'mythtv ' in their name ( 3 in total ) - Installed Jaunty .debs from Launchpad in their place ( you will need to satisfy one additional dependency ) and locked their version in Synaptic.Beats manually installing all dependencies for the Jaunty packages ( I could not find a repo ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People might be interested to know the Mythtv 0.22 database is incompatible with 0.21.
I noticed this when trying to hook up a frontend on Karmic to a backend on Jaunty, both machines using the packages from the repositories.
Given the well-documented issues going from Jaunty to Karmic, I did not want to upgrade the backend, so I did the following on the Karmic client:- Install frontend 0.22 and dependencies- Remove all packages that have 'mythtv' in their name (3 in total)- Installed Jaunty .debs from Launchpad in their place (you will need to satisfy one additional dependency) and locked their version in Synaptic.Beats manually installing all dependencies for the Jaunty packages (I could not find a repo).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028414</id>
	<title>upnp</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257698340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>can we stream hulu over upnp yet?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>can we stream hulu over upnp yet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>can we stream hulu over upnp yet?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30033188</id>
	<title>Re:Release Notes</title>
	<author>Tolkien</author>
	<datestamp>1257783780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>MythPhone removed? Why would it ever exist? How does it work? Do you speak into the tv speakers or something?</htmltext>
<tokenext>MythPhone removed ?
Why would it ever exist ?
How does it work ?
Do you speak into the tv speakers or something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MythPhone removed?
Why would it ever exist?
How does it work?
Do you speak into the tv speakers or something?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029958</id>
	<title>Re:.01 and the TV Myth</title>
	<author>cowbutt</author>
	<datestamp>1257757800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Speak for yourself. My MythTV system has been happily recording and playing back TV for over three years. I used <a href="http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php" title="wilsonet.com">Jarod C. Wilson's guide</a> [wilsonet.com]. I think it took about a day to get the core functionality working, then I got the rest (emulator games, playback improvements, IR remote behaviour) tweaked to my liking over the course of the next month.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Speak for yourself .
My MythTV system has been happily recording and playing back TV for over three years .
I used Jarod C. Wilson 's guide [ wilsonet.com ] .
I think it took about a day to get the core functionality working , then I got the rest ( emulator games , playback improvements , IR remote behaviour ) tweaked to my liking over the course of the next month .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Speak for yourself.
My MythTV system has been happily recording and playing back TV for over three years.
I used Jarod C. Wilson's guide [wilsonet.com].
I think it took about a day to get the core functionality working, then I got the rest (emulator games, playback improvements, IR remote behaviour) tweaked to my liking over the course of the next month.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029406</id>
	<title>What did you expect?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257708840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From bloated freetards watching the idiot box?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From bloated freetards watching the idiot box ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From bloated freetards watching the idiot box?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028768</id>
	<title>.01 and the TV Myth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257701520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Clearly you haven't dealt with MythTV. The myth is that you get to watch and record TV. The reality is you spend all your time fiddling with it and cursing at it until your head is so bloody from banging it up against a brick wall that you give up and decide to give up TV altogether.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Clearly you have n't dealt with MythTV .
The myth is that you get to watch and record TV .
The reality is you spend all your time fiddling with it and cursing at it until your head is so bloody from banging it up against a brick wall that you give up and decide to give up TV altogether .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clearly you haven't dealt with MythTV.
The myth is that you get to watch and record TV.
The reality is you spend all your time fiddling with it and cursing at it until your head is so bloody from banging it up against a brick wall that you give up and decide to give up TV altogether.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028604</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029592</id>
	<title>How version numbers work</title>
	<author>KingSkippus</author>
	<datestamp>1257797160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>And this isn't even worth a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.1 version increment. It's a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.01</p></div></blockquote><p>If they're recording their version numbers like most software does, the move from 0.21 to 0.22 <i>is</i> what you're calling a ".1" release.</p><p>Version numbers aren't meant to be like normal decimal numbers.  The stuff the the right of the decimal point is the integral minor release number.  Going from 0.21 to 0.22 means an increment of one minor version, not a "hundredth" of a major version release.*  There's no such thing as a ".01 release."</p><p>In other words, the jump from 0.21 to 0.22 is the same "amount" of version increase as the jump from 0.1 to 0.2.  if you're at version 4.9 of something and you push out a minor release, its version will be 4.10, not 5.0, which would indicate a major release.  Likewise, version 4.1 of software is most emphatically <i>not</i> the same thing as version 4.10.</p><p>It's also why a lot of version numbers have multiple decimal points, such as 4.9.1326.  (The 1326 in this case is likely a build or other sub-minor revision number.)  Obviously, if you're trying to interpret that as some kind of fraction between 4 and 5, it's meaningless.</p><p>* Just to satisfy the pedants, there are some exceptions.  Some software with lots of minor revision milestones number early minor revisions <i>x</i>.01, <i>x</i>.02, etc.  Also, some software uses a version numbering scheme in which odd numbers are development versions and even numbers are stable versions, so for example, <i>x</i>.14 would be a stable release and <i>x</i>.15 would be the next development release.  And some developers give their software stupid-ass meaningless version names instead, such as "Millennium Edition," "XP," and "Vista," so that you really have no idea what the hell you're running outside of a general four-year or so time window.</p><p>To my knowledge, none of these schemes apply to MythTV, thank god.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And this is n't even worth a .1 version increment .
It 's a .01If they 're recording their version numbers like most software does , the move from 0.21 to 0.22 is what you 're calling a " .1 " release.Version numbers are n't meant to be like normal decimal numbers .
The stuff the the right of the decimal point is the integral minor release number .
Going from 0.21 to 0.22 means an increment of one minor version , not a " hundredth " of a major version release .
* There 's no such thing as a " .01 release .
" In other words , the jump from 0.21 to 0.22 is the same " amount " of version increase as the jump from 0.1 to 0.2. if you 're at version 4.9 of something and you push out a minor release , its version will be 4.10 , not 5.0 , which would indicate a major release .
Likewise , version 4.1 of software is most emphatically not the same thing as version 4.10.It 's also why a lot of version numbers have multiple decimal points , such as 4.9.1326 .
( The 1326 in this case is likely a build or other sub-minor revision number .
) Obviously , if you 're trying to interpret that as some kind of fraction between 4 and 5 , it 's meaningless .
* Just to satisfy the pedants , there are some exceptions .
Some software with lots of minor revision milestones number early minor revisions x.01 , x.02 , etc .
Also , some software uses a version numbering scheme in which odd numbers are development versions and even numbers are stable versions , so for example , x.14 would be a stable release and x.15 would be the next development release .
And some developers give their software stupid-ass meaningless version names instead , such as " Millennium Edition , " " XP , " and " Vista , " so that you really have no idea what the hell you 're running outside of a general four-year or so time window.To my knowledge , none of these schemes apply to MythTV , thank god .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And this isn't even worth a .1 version increment.
It's a .01If they're recording their version numbers like most software does, the move from 0.21 to 0.22 is what you're calling a ".1" release.Version numbers aren't meant to be like normal decimal numbers.
The stuff the the right of the decimal point is the integral minor release number.
Going from 0.21 to 0.22 means an increment of one minor version, not a "hundredth" of a major version release.
*  There's no such thing as a ".01 release.
"In other words, the jump from 0.21 to 0.22 is the same "amount" of version increase as the jump from 0.1 to 0.2.  if you're at version 4.9 of something and you push out a minor release, its version will be 4.10, not 5.0, which would indicate a major release.
Likewise, version 4.1 of software is most emphatically not the same thing as version 4.10.It's also why a lot of version numbers have multiple decimal points, such as 4.9.1326.
(The 1326 in this case is likely a build or other sub-minor revision number.
)  Obviously, if you're trying to interpret that as some kind of fraction between 4 and 5, it's meaningless.
* Just to satisfy the pedants, there are some exceptions.
Some software with lots of minor revision milestones number early minor revisions x.01, x.02, etc.
Also, some software uses a version numbering scheme in which odd numbers are development versions and even numbers are stable versions, so for example, x.14 would be a stable release and x.15 would be the next development release.
And some developers give their software stupid-ass meaningless version names instead, such as "Millennium Edition," "XP," and "Vista," so that you really have no idea what the hell you're running outside of a general four-year or so time window.To my knowledge, none of these schemes apply to MythTV, thank god.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028938</id>
	<title>Re:Does it save me from commercials?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257702720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I wonder whether this new release has an option of stripping out commercials from recordings on request. Does it? </i></p><p>MythTV has had the ability to mark the positions of commercials in a piece of recorded content for ages now.  It has not, and AFAIK, continues not to have the ability to automatically cut those commercials straight out of the recorded content.  Why?  Simple:  The commercial stripper is far from perfect.  It does a decent job most of the time, but it just as often screws up royally.  So you really *don't* want it doing something irreversible to your recordings without active user intervention, which is why the solution has always involved a script and setting up a user job that can be triggered from the FE.</p><p>'course, I'm not sure why that's a problem.  If you're watching the content on a MythTV FE, you can just tell it to automatically skip commercials, and it'll use the marked positions to skip in real-time.  If your goal is to play out the content on another device, you probably want to transcode it, scale it, etc, before transferring it to your device (ie, ipod, etc), at which point you can instruct Myth to cut the commercials out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder whether this new release has an option of stripping out commercials from recordings on request .
Does it ?
MythTV has had the ability to mark the positions of commercials in a piece of recorded content for ages now .
It has not , and AFAIK , continues not to have the ability to automatically cut those commercials straight out of the recorded content .
Why ? Simple : The commercial stripper is far from perfect .
It does a decent job most of the time , but it just as often screws up royally .
So you really * do n't * want it doing something irreversible to your recordings without active user intervention , which is why the solution has always involved a script and setting up a user job that can be triggered from the FE .
'course , I 'm not sure why that 's a problem .
If you 're watching the content on a MythTV FE , you can just tell it to automatically skip commercials , and it 'll use the marked positions to skip in real-time .
If your goal is to play out the content on another device , you probably want to transcode it , scale it , etc , before transferring it to your device ( ie , ipod , etc ) , at which point you can instruct Myth to cut the commercials out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder whether this new release has an option of stripping out commercials from recordings on request.
Does it?
MythTV has had the ability to mark the positions of commercials in a piece of recorded content for ages now.
It has not, and AFAIK, continues not to have the ability to automatically cut those commercials straight out of the recorded content.
Why?  Simple:  The commercial stripper is far from perfect.
It does a decent job most of the time, but it just as often screws up royally.
So you really *don't* want it doing something irreversible to your recordings without active user intervention, which is why the solution has always involved a script and setting up a user job that can be triggered from the FE.
'course, I'm not sure why that's a problem.
If you're watching the content on a MythTV FE, you can just tell it to automatically skip commercials, and it'll use the marked positions to skip in real-time.
If your goal is to play out the content on another device, you probably want to transcode it, scale it, etc, before transferring it to your device (ie, ipod, etc), at which point you can instruct Myth to cut the commercials out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028708</id>
	<title>I for one welcome...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257701040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I for one welcome our MythTV<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22 Overlords!
<br> <br>
I've been using MythTV for a bunch of years now, and I find it an absolute blast. It works on every PC I can find, and even on my work OSX laptop, which still lets me watch <a href="http://theitsaliveshow.com/" title="theitsaliveshow.com">The It's Alive Show</a> [theitsaliveshow.com] while I'm hacking away. It even eats the commercials, and does a better job with digital television signals. I can't wait for multirec support for my HDHomeRun.
<br> <br>
If you haven't tried MythTV recently, check it out again.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I for one welcome our MythTV .22 Overlords !
I 've been using MythTV for a bunch of years now , and I find it an absolute blast .
It works on every PC I can find , and even on my work OSX laptop , which still lets me watch The It 's Alive Show [ theitsaliveshow.com ] while I 'm hacking away .
It even eats the commercials , and does a better job with digital television signals .
I ca n't wait for multirec support for my HDHomeRun .
If you have n't tried MythTV recently , check it out again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I for one welcome our MythTV .22 Overlords!
I've been using MythTV for a bunch of years now, and I find it an absolute blast.
It works on every PC I can find, and even on my work OSX laptop, which still lets me watch The It's Alive Show [theitsaliveshow.com] while I'm hacking away.
It even eats the commercials, and does a better job with digital television signals.
I can't wait for multirec support for my HDHomeRun.
If you haven't tried MythTV recently, check it out again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30036828</id>
	<title>Re:Is it still same config nightmare?</title>
	<author>Sloppy</author>
	<datestamp>1257798480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Do I still have to f**k around with 100 combinations/restarts of Qt, ffmpeg, XVideo, XvMC, libmpeg2, xv-blit, opengl, xlib, xshm, directfb, directx</p></div></blockquote><p>Nope.  I didn't have any trouble like that at al--</p><blockquote><div><p>...all whilst not being able to see the f**king mouse cursor and having to hit 'next' five times just to change one setting?</p></div></blockquote><p>Oh.  Yeah, it's still like that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do I still have to f * * k around with 100 combinations/restarts of Qt , ffmpeg , XVideo , XvMC , libmpeg2 , xv-blit , opengl , xlib , xshm , directfb , directxNope .
I did n't have any trouble like that at al--...all whilst not being able to see the f * * king mouse cursor and having to hit 'next ' five times just to change one setting ? Oh .
Yeah , it 's still like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do I still have to f**k around with 100 combinations/restarts of Qt, ffmpeg, XVideo, XvMC, libmpeg2, xv-blit, opengl, xlib, xshm, directfb, directxNope.
I didn't have any trouble like that at al--...all whilst not being able to see the f**king mouse cursor and having to hit 'next' five times just to change one setting?Oh.
Yeah, it's still like that.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028892</id>
	<title>Hurray for HD Hauppauge Support!</title>
	<author>fragMasterFlash</author>
	<datestamp>1257702420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So I can finally get support for my Hauppauge HD tuner without compiling super-glitchy drivers? This would be awesome if my cable provider wasn't moving all non local broadcast stations off ClearQAM next month. By the time MythTV rolls out CableCard support online streaming providers will have made it obsolete. <br> <br>*shakes tiny fist at comcast*</htmltext>
<tokenext>So I can finally get support for my Hauppauge HD tuner without compiling super-glitchy drivers ?
This would be awesome if my cable provider was n't moving all non local broadcast stations off ClearQAM next month .
By the time MythTV rolls out CableCard support online streaming providers will have made it obsolete .
* shakes tiny fist at comcast *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I can finally get support for my Hauppauge HD tuner without compiling super-glitchy drivers?
This would be awesome if my cable provider wasn't moving all non local broadcast stations off ClearQAM next month.
By the time MythTV rolls out CableCard support online streaming providers will have made it obsolete.
*shakes tiny fist at comcast*</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029694</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>wintermute000</author>
	<datestamp>1257798060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm still not getting all this PVR love. Esp as a lot of it comes from US posters, who have their lovely unlimited (or nearly unlimited) download caps.</p><p>Here is backward Oz, where most people live with 20-30 gigs a month, we download everything and nobody gives a rats --- about PVR.</p><p>Your paid off the house middle age types buy the officially sanctioned 'tivo' equivalent that is locked down by the provider. Everyone else downloads everything and / or gets it off the standard morning pass-the-usb-drive around ritual @ work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm still not getting all this PVR love .
Esp as a lot of it comes from US posters , who have their lovely unlimited ( or nearly unlimited ) download caps.Here is backward Oz , where most people live with 20-30 gigs a month , we download everything and nobody gives a rats --- about PVR.Your paid off the house middle age types buy the officially sanctioned 'tivo ' equivalent that is locked down by the provider .
Everyone else downloads everything and / or gets it off the standard morning pass-the-usb-drive around ritual @ work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm still not getting all this PVR love.
Esp as a lot of it comes from US posters, who have their lovely unlimited (or nearly unlimited) download caps.Here is backward Oz, where most people live with 20-30 gigs a month, we download everything and nobody gives a rats --- about PVR.Your paid off the house middle age types buy the officially sanctioned 'tivo' equivalent that is locked down by the provider.
Everyone else downloads everything and / or gets it off the standard morning pass-the-usb-drive around ritual @ work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30033606</id>
	<title>Re:Not important</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1257785460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...except this "yet another open source project release" has support for some interesting bits of hardware. These are the sorts of interesting bits of hardware that Lemming Trolls like to claim has poor Linux support.</p><p>That stupid web comic about Flash comes to mind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...except this " yet another open source project release " has support for some interesting bits of hardware .
These are the sorts of interesting bits of hardware that Lemming Trolls like to claim has poor Linux support.That stupid web comic about Flash comes to mind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...except this "yet another open source project release" has support for some interesting bits of hardware.
These are the sorts of interesting bits of hardware that Lemming Trolls like to claim has poor Linux support.That stupid web comic about Flash comes to mind.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029670</id>
	<title>Re:does anyone still use it?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257797880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A friend of mine - who is a linux/java dev full time - runs a myth box. He has wasted far too much of his life (his words not mine) debugging the POS, spent all of last saturday trying to figure out a timing related issue whereby the audio and video goes out of sync on dvds, he reckons that the issue is totally random and not consistently reproducible e.g. patching a simple debug output affected the threading enough so that it fixed it on two of his test machines, but not on others. People working on the issue have reported varying degrees of the same bug. This issue is 6 months old. Yes, dvd playback is borked. Of course the simple solution would be to call mplayer instead but then he would have to manually reconfigure LIRC for mplayer, and so forth. The amount of bugs and issues he mentions to me on a monthly basis sounds nothing short of excruciating, esp. combined with linux graphics driver issues. And this is a guy who runs a custom compiled OS on his workstation (yes its not a distro, he compiles everything from source) and he struggles with myth.</p><p>I tried to get myth running on my old media center - I'm no dev or expert but I have been running fedora on my home 'server' since the Fedora Core 3 days, I test drive each new ubuntu and fedora release, I run a 'web appliance' w/ LAMP serving torrentflux-b4rt and ampache, squid, privoxy, ssh gateway so I am far from a newbie. After a wasted weekend - and yes all my hardware was allegedly compatible - I gave up, I didn't even get to the halfway mark so to speak.</p><p>Meanwhilst, Bill's dogshite of an OS grinds the HDD like crazy and sometimes wakes from sleep for no reason but god damn the media center bit just works and I never have to worry about it. Stick mediabrowser plugin on it for a jaw dropping, convince-nontechie-friends-they-NEED-a-mediacenter effect. I feel nauseated for advocating a wintel solution but in this case its just better than the alternatives (including appletv).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A friend of mine - who is a linux/java dev full time - runs a myth box .
He has wasted far too much of his life ( his words not mine ) debugging the POS , spent all of last saturday trying to figure out a timing related issue whereby the audio and video goes out of sync on dvds , he reckons that the issue is totally random and not consistently reproducible e.g .
patching a simple debug output affected the threading enough so that it fixed it on two of his test machines , but not on others .
People working on the issue have reported varying degrees of the same bug .
This issue is 6 months old .
Yes , dvd playback is borked .
Of course the simple solution would be to call mplayer instead but then he would have to manually reconfigure LIRC for mplayer , and so forth .
The amount of bugs and issues he mentions to me on a monthly basis sounds nothing short of excruciating , esp .
combined with linux graphics driver issues .
And this is a guy who runs a custom compiled OS on his workstation ( yes its not a distro , he compiles everything from source ) and he struggles with myth.I tried to get myth running on my old media center - I 'm no dev or expert but I have been running fedora on my home 'server ' since the Fedora Core 3 days , I test drive each new ubuntu and fedora release , I run a 'web appliance ' w/ LAMP serving torrentflux-b4rt and ampache , squid , privoxy , ssh gateway so I am far from a newbie .
After a wasted weekend - and yes all my hardware was allegedly compatible - I gave up , I did n't even get to the halfway mark so to speak.Meanwhilst , Bill 's dogshite of an OS grinds the HDD like crazy and sometimes wakes from sleep for no reason but god damn the media center bit just works and I never have to worry about it .
Stick mediabrowser plugin on it for a jaw dropping , convince-nontechie-friends-they-NEED-a-mediacenter effect .
I feel nauseated for advocating a wintel solution but in this case its just better than the alternatives ( including appletv ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A friend of mine - who is a linux/java dev full time - runs a myth box.
He has wasted far too much of his life (his words not mine) debugging the POS, spent all of last saturday trying to figure out a timing related issue whereby the audio and video goes out of sync on dvds, he reckons that the issue is totally random and not consistently reproducible e.g.
patching a simple debug output affected the threading enough so that it fixed it on two of his test machines, but not on others.
People working on the issue have reported varying degrees of the same bug.
This issue is 6 months old.
Yes, dvd playback is borked.
Of course the simple solution would be to call mplayer instead but then he would have to manually reconfigure LIRC for mplayer, and so forth.
The amount of bugs and issues he mentions to me on a monthly basis sounds nothing short of excruciating, esp.
combined with linux graphics driver issues.
And this is a guy who runs a custom compiled OS on his workstation (yes its not a distro, he compiles everything from source) and he struggles with myth.I tried to get myth running on my old media center - I'm no dev or expert but I have been running fedora on my home 'server' since the Fedora Core 3 days, I test drive each new ubuntu and fedora release, I run a 'web appliance' w/ LAMP serving torrentflux-b4rt and ampache, squid, privoxy, ssh gateway so I am far from a newbie.
After a wasted weekend - and yes all my hardware was allegedly compatible - I gave up, I didn't even get to the halfway mark so to speak.Meanwhilst, Bill's dogshite of an OS grinds the HDD like crazy and sometimes wakes from sleep for no reason but god damn the media center bit just works and I never have to worry about it.
Stick mediabrowser plugin on it for a jaw dropping, convince-nontechie-friends-they-NEED-a-mediacenter effect.
I feel nauseated for advocating a wintel solution but in this case its just better than the alternatives (including appletv).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029228</id>
	<title>Re:Is it still same config nightmare?</title>
	<author>paul248</author>
	<datestamp>1257706200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep.  Still as wonderful as ever!</p><p>[Next Next Next Next Next Submit.]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep .
Still as wonderful as ever !
[ Next Next Next Next Next Submit .
]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep.
Still as wonderful as ever!
[Next Next Next Next Next Submit.
]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30030504</id>
	<title>Re:.01 Really?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257764220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>21 + 1 is ?</p><p>You sir are an idiot!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>21 + 1 is ? You sir are an idiot !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>21 + 1 is ?You sir are an idiot!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029302</id>
	<title>Bulletproof appliance</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257707460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hate to say it, but I keep giving MythTV a try and I still hate it.  I've also tried KnoppMyth and Mythbuntu and they are no solution.  I use GBPVR.  It strips out commercials, lets me create plug-ins, never crashes or has problems, and takes me a few minutes to set up even with network clients and custom remote control mappings.  It's not open source, but it sure does work.  I will try MythTV 0.22, but I doubt it will live up to my expectations.  And yes I have tried Sage and I don't like it at all.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate to say it , but I keep giving MythTV a try and I still hate it .
I 've also tried KnoppMyth and Mythbuntu and they are no solution .
I use GBPVR .
It strips out commercials , lets me create plug-ins , never crashes or has problems , and takes me a few minutes to set up even with network clients and custom remote control mappings .
It 's not open source , but it sure does work .
I will try MythTV 0.22 , but I doubt it will live up to my expectations .
And yes I have tried Sage and I do n't like it at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate to say it, but I keep giving MythTV a try and I still hate it.
I've also tried KnoppMyth and Mythbuntu and they are no solution.
I use GBPVR.
It strips out commercials, lets me create plug-ins, never crashes or has problems, and takes me a few minutes to set up even with network clients and custom remote control mappings.
It's not open source, but it sure does work.
I will try MythTV 0.22, but I doubt it will live up to my expectations.
And yes I have tried Sage and I don't like it at all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30030930</id>
	<title>General rule  manual fixes</title>
	<author>KlaymenDK</author>
	<datestamp>1257769980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why oh why is it so hard to include an automatic URL converter into slashcode, at least for links in the summaries?</p><p>You'd think that, since slashcode can intelligently decide to show the domain in brackets, that it could also apply that nyud suffix...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why oh why is it so hard to include an automatic URL converter into slashcode , at least for links in the summaries ? You 'd think that , since slashcode can intelligently decide to show the domain in brackets , that it could also apply that nyud suffix.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why oh why is it so hard to include an automatic URL converter into slashcode, at least for links in the summaries?You'd think that, since slashcode can intelligently decide to show the domain in brackets, that it could also apply that nyud suffix...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30034456</id>
	<title>Re:Is it still same config nightmare?</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1257788820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You bring up an interesting "philosophical" problem.</p><p>Do you give the end user ONE AND ONLY one option that may or may not work for them (like Apple)? Or do you give them some flexibility and sufficient tools to handle any situation that the developers might not have forseen.</p><p>The little bits of help text seem to be pretty easy to follow.</p><p>Oddly enough, there was a discussion of this very sort of "problem" on the user mailing list. While "canned" configurations are nice enough idea. The problem is pretty big, hardware and national variations are myriad, and you are bound to miss someone's use case.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You bring up an interesting " philosophical " problem.Do you give the end user ONE AND ONLY one option that may or may not work for them ( like Apple ) ?
Or do you give them some flexibility and sufficient tools to handle any situation that the developers might not have forseen.The little bits of help text seem to be pretty easy to follow.Oddly enough , there was a discussion of this very sort of " problem " on the user mailing list .
While " canned " configurations are nice enough idea .
The problem is pretty big , hardware and national variations are myriad , and you are bound to miss someone 's use case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You bring up an interesting "philosophical" problem.Do you give the end user ONE AND ONLY one option that may or may not work for them (like Apple)?
Or do you give them some flexibility and sufficient tools to handle any situation that the developers might not have forseen.The little bits of help text seem to be pretty easy to follow.Oddly enough, there was a discussion of this very sort of "problem" on the user mailing list.
While "canned" configurations are nice enough idea.
The problem is pretty big, hardware and national variations are myriad, and you are bound to miss someone's use case.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30028468</id>
	<title>Too bad Linux is for faggots.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257698880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you are a Linux-loving faggot, mod me down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you are a Linux-loving faggot , mod me down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you are a Linux-loving faggot, mod me down.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30031542</id>
	<title>Mythbuntu Control Centre</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257775980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Before setting up mythtv I bought a book about it and it looked pretty complicated.  Apparently, after the book was published, the Mythbuntu people released Mythbuntu Control Centre, which really makes it a lot easier to set up.  And myth runs pretty well for me - had a MYSQL table that needed to get fixed this weekend, but that's pretty rare.  The frontend on my Mac has its fair share of quirks, but the backend runs smoothly and solidly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Before setting up mythtv I bought a book about it and it looked pretty complicated .
Apparently , after the book was published , the Mythbuntu people released Mythbuntu Control Centre , which really makes it a lot easier to set up .
And myth runs pretty well for me - had a MYSQL table that needed to get fixed this weekend , but that 's pretty rare .
The frontend on my Mac has its fair share of quirks , but the backend runs smoothly and solidly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Before setting up mythtv I bought a book about it and it looked pretty complicated.
Apparently, after the book was published, the Mythbuntu people released Mythbuntu Control Centre, which really makes it a lot easier to set up.
And myth runs pretty well for me - had a MYSQL table that needed to get fixed this weekend, but that's pretty rare.
The frontend on my Mac has its fair share of quirks, but the backend runs smoothly and solidly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029008</id>
	<title>Re:Is it still same config nightmare?</title>
	<author>Techman83</author>
	<datestamp>1257703500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Refer to my <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1436018&amp;cid=30028992" title="slashdot.org">earlier</a> [slashdot.org] post and you may find an answer<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Refer to my earlier [ slashdot.org ] post and you may find an answer : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Refer to my earlier [slashdot.org] post and you may find an answer :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30032918</id>
	<title>Re:database</title>
	<author>Rich0</author>
	<datestamp>1257782760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The character set conversion issue described on that page is due to the default MySQL settings as shipped with Gentoo.</i></p><p>If I'm not mistaken, the Gentoo defaults were those recommended by the mysql project.  Essentially, Gentoo just passed on the mysql defaults without fiddling with them.</p><p>IMHO, no application should rely on database default settings, or if they do they should rely on them being set to the defaults recommended by the database vendor / ANSI / etc.  The reason is simple - if you don't do it this way then suddenly two applications using the same database server could have differing configuration requirements, with no way to satisfy them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The character set conversion issue described on that page is due to the default MySQL settings as shipped with Gentoo.If I 'm not mistaken , the Gentoo defaults were those recommended by the mysql project .
Essentially , Gentoo just passed on the mysql defaults without fiddling with them.IMHO , no application should rely on database default settings , or if they do they should rely on them being set to the defaults recommended by the database vendor / ANSI / etc .
The reason is simple - if you do n't do it this way then suddenly two applications using the same database server could have differing configuration requirements , with no way to satisfy them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The character set conversion issue described on that page is due to the default MySQL settings as shipped with Gentoo.If I'm not mistaken, the Gentoo defaults were those recommended by the mysql project.
Essentially, Gentoo just passed on the mysql defaults without fiddling with them.IMHO, no application should rely on database default settings, or if they do they should rely on them being set to the defaults recommended by the database vendor / ANSI / etc.
The reason is simple - if you don't do it this way then suddenly two applications using the same database server could have differing configuration requirements, with no way to satisfy them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029292</id>
	<title>Re:.01 Really?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257707400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.1 increment. Try looking up how Polynomials work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is a .1 increment .
Try looking up how Polynomials work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is a .1 increment.
Try looking up how Polynomials work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30029568</id>
	<title>Too little, too late</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257796980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've used Myth for years.  Since the 2.4 kernel days when you had to recompile the kernel to get DVB and ALSA working.  It used to take hours and hours to get even the remote control working, but I perservered because it was far superior to anything out there. <br> <br>

But Myth has lagged too long and it has always looked godawful compared to its competors.<br> <br>

With the release of Windows 7, I have found that I am able to do all that I need and it looks a hell of a lot better.  This latest release of Myth (which is pretty lame for taking so long for such a minor release) only convinces me further that I made the right choice of switching away from it.<br> <br>

Thanks for the memories, though.  I'll think of you fondly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've used Myth for years .
Since the 2.4 kernel days when you had to recompile the kernel to get DVB and ALSA working .
It used to take hours and hours to get even the remote control working , but I perservered because it was far superior to anything out there .
But Myth has lagged too long and it has always looked godawful compared to its competors .
With the release of Windows 7 , I have found that I am able to do all that I need and it looks a hell of a lot better .
This latest release of Myth ( which is pretty lame for taking so long for such a minor release ) only convinces me further that I made the right choice of switching away from it .
Thanks for the memories , though .
I 'll think of you fondly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've used Myth for years.
Since the 2.4 kernel days when you had to recompile the kernel to get DVB and ALSA working.
It used to take hours and hours to get even the remote control working, but I perservered because it was far superior to anything out there.
But Myth has lagged too long and it has always looked godawful compared to its competors.
With the release of Windows 7, I have found that I am able to do all that I need and it looks a hell of a lot better.
This latest release of Myth (which is pretty lame for taking so long for such a minor release) only convinces me further that I made the right choice of switching away from it.
Thanks for the memories, though.
I'll think of you fondly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_09_035228.30034412</id>
	<title>Re:.01 Really?</title>
	<author>Locutus</author>
	<datestamp>1257788640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>when you don't care to hit the 1.0 number, you start low and move slow. In 20 years, when they start getting close to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.99, they'll probably start nudging by<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.001 or even go alphanumeric for an even slower progression to 1.0<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)<br><br>But who really cares as long as it works and does a decent job at what it does?<br><br>LoB</htmltext>
<tokenext>when you do n't care to hit the 1.0 number , you start low and move slow .
In 20 years , when they start getting close to .99 , they 'll probably start nudging by .001 or even go alphanumeric for an even slower progression to 1.0 ; - ) But who really cares as long as it works and does a decent job at what it does ? LoB</tokentext>
<sentencetext>when you don't care to hit the 1.0 number, you start low and move slow.
In 20 years, when they start getting close to .99, they'll probably start nudging by .001 or even go alphanumeric for an even slower progression to 1.0 ;-)But who really cares as long as it works and does a decent job at what it does?LoB</sentencetext>
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