<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_05_2021254</id>
	<title>Home Phone System That Syncs To Computer?</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1257410400000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>'In comparison to the advanced technology in today's smart phones, the standard home phone is painfully backwards.   My current setup is a Panasonic system that has 4 cordless phones over one base station.  Setting the time on one phone changes the time on all the phones; however, this is not the case for the phone book.  Each entry must be manually copied (pushed) to each handset.   Is this as far as home phone technology has come?  What I would like is a phone system that I could sync to my computer so I could update the phone book over all the units (if not sync with Address Book or Outlook), keep a log of caller IDs, or even forward me new voicemail notifications.   Does anyone know if such a system exists?'</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes 'In comparison to the advanced technology in today 's smart phones , the standard home phone is painfully backwards .
My current setup is a Panasonic system that has 4 cordless phones over one base station .
Setting the time on one phone changes the time on all the phones ; however , this is not the case for the phone book .
Each entry must be manually copied ( pushed ) to each handset .
Is this as far as home phone technology has come ?
What I would like is a phone system that I could sync to my computer so I could update the phone book over all the units ( if not sync with Address Book or Outlook ) , keep a log of caller IDs , or even forward me new voicemail notifications .
Does anyone know if such a system exists ?
'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes 'In comparison to the advanced technology in today's smart phones, the standard home phone is painfully backwards.
My current setup is a Panasonic system that has 4 cordless phones over one base station.
Setting the time on one phone changes the time on all the phones; however, this is not the case for the phone book.
Each entry must be manually copied (pushed) to each handset.
Is this as far as home phone technology has come?
What I would like is a phone system that I could sync to my computer so I could update the phone book over all the units (if not sync with Address Book or Outlook), keep a log of caller IDs, or even forward me new voicemail notifications.
Does anyone know if such a system exists?
'</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30005608</id>
	<title>Re:Landline abandonment</title>
	<author>frank249</author>
	<datestamp>1257522720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have abandoned my landline and don't miss it one bit.  As for teaching a 3 year old to dial a blackberry, that is not a problem as their are bluetooth handsets that are exactly the same as as POTS handsets except that they connect to a cell instead of a landline.</p><p>If the power goes out I will just charge it in my car from time to time.  Moreover when the power is out I will not only still have voice but also email and internet where the everyone else's computers are the paperweights.  In this day and age, internet access is essential and my blackberry keeps me connected everywhere all the time wether I am at home or on my boat.</p><p>I think eventually smartphones will eventually replace not only POTS but also home computers.  As soon as they figure out a way to connect my blackberry to my monitor, external hard drive and keyboard I will not need a home PC anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have abandoned my landline and do n't miss it one bit .
As for teaching a 3 year old to dial a blackberry , that is not a problem as their are bluetooth handsets that are exactly the same as as POTS handsets except that they connect to a cell instead of a landline.If the power goes out I will just charge it in my car from time to time .
Moreover when the power is out I will not only still have voice but also email and internet where the everyone else 's computers are the paperweights .
In this day and age , internet access is essential and my blackberry keeps me connected everywhere all the time wether I am at home or on my boat.I think eventually smartphones will eventually replace not only POTS but also home computers .
As soon as they figure out a way to connect my blackberry to my monitor , external hard drive and keyboard I will not need a home PC anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have abandoned my landline and don't miss it one bit.
As for teaching a 3 year old to dial a blackberry, that is not a problem as their are bluetooth handsets that are exactly the same as as POTS handsets except that they connect to a cell instead of a landline.If the power goes out I will just charge it in my car from time to time.
Moreover when the power is out I will not only still have voice but also email and internet where the everyone else's computers are the paperweights.
In this day and age, internet access is essential and my blackberry keeps me connected everywhere all the time wether I am at home or on my boat.I think eventually smartphones will eventually replace not only POTS but also home computers.
As soon as they figure out a way to connect my blackberry to my monitor, external hard drive and keyboard I will not need a home PC anymore.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000018</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999918</id>
	<title>Re:Cost</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1257416460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How much would a wifi or a bluetooth chip set them back?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How much would a wifi or a bluetooth chip set them back ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much would a wifi or a bluetooth chip set them back?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999450</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30005356</id>
	<title>Re:Regular phones are so backwards...</title>
	<author>noahisaac</author>
	<datestamp>1257520980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have to agree (and I'm an asterisk administrator).  If you have POTS lines, the best way to utilize them is with an old school analog phone.  There is no combination that is more reliable, and if you have a good phone and your phone lines don't suck, the sound quality will be excellent.  Connecting old school POTS lines to VoIP PBXs or even older digital phone systems is very often problematic.  If you want to use a modern phone system, use (more) modern phone lines: BRI, PRI, or just go with direct VoIP connections.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to agree ( and I 'm an asterisk administrator ) .
If you have POTS lines , the best way to utilize them is with an old school analog phone .
There is no combination that is more reliable , and if you have a good phone and your phone lines do n't suck , the sound quality will be excellent .
Connecting old school POTS lines to VoIP PBXs or even older digital phone systems is very often problematic .
If you want to use a modern phone system , use ( more ) modern phone lines : BRI , PRI , or just go with direct VoIP connections .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to agree (and I'm an asterisk administrator).
If you have POTS lines, the best way to utilize them is with an old school analog phone.
There is no combination that is more reliable, and if you have a good phone and your phone lines don't suck, the sound quality will be excellent.
Connecting old school POTS lines to VoIP PBXs or even older digital phone systems is very often problematic.
If you want to use a modern phone system, use (more) modern phone lines: BRI, PRI, or just go with direct VoIP connections.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999440</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001712</id>
	<title>Yes it exists</title>
	<author>agulliford</author>
	<datestamp>1257426000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Siemens Gigaset SL78H does most of the things you say.

You can sync to your PC, have a text message sent to your mobile whenever someone leaves you a voice message, sync the address book to other handsets or to your mobile via bluetooth.

<a href="http://gigaset.com/" title="gigaset.com" rel="nofollow">http://gigaset.com/</a> [gigaset.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Siemens Gigaset SL78H does most of the things you say .
You can sync to your PC , have a text message sent to your mobile whenever someone leaves you a voice message , sync the address book to other handsets or to your mobile via bluetooth .
http : //gigaset.com/ [ gigaset.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Siemens Gigaset SL78H does most of the things you say.
You can sync to your PC, have a text message sent to your mobile whenever someone leaves you a voice message, sync the address book to other handsets or to your mobile via bluetooth.
http://gigaset.com/ [gigaset.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001722</id>
	<title>Re:My phone setup</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257426120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My cheapo AT&amp;T 5-phone system from Costco automatically updates all handsets with any new phone numbers or caller ID lists.</p><p>Well, it says "AT&amp;T" on the phone -- I don't know who the *real* manufacturer of this is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My cheapo AT&amp;T 5-phone system from Costco automatically updates all handsets with any new phone numbers or caller ID lists.Well , it says " AT&amp;T " on the phone -- I do n't know who the * real * manufacturer of this is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My cheapo AT&amp;T 5-phone system from Costco automatically updates all handsets with any new phone numbers or caller ID lists.Well, it says "AT&amp;T" on the phone -- I don't know who the *real* manufacturer of this is.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999462</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30005750</id>
	<title>Bluetooth sync with cell</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257523560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Vtech has a phone that can sync all of you contacts from you cell phone. Then sync your contact manager with your cell through google.<br><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/29/new-vtech-cordless-can-download-cellphone-address-books-over-blu/" title="engadget.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/29/new-vtech-cordless-can-download-cellphone-address-books-over-blu/</a> [engadget.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Vtech has a phone that can sync all of you contacts from you cell phone .
Then sync your contact manager with your cell through google.http : //www.engadget.com/2009/09/29/new-vtech-cordless-can-download-cellphone-address-books-over-blu/ [ engadget.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vtech has a phone that can sync all of you contacts from you cell phone.
Then sync your contact manager with your cell through google.http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/29/new-vtech-cordless-can-download-cellphone-address-books-over-blu/ [engadget.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000346</id>
	<title>the real answer</title>
	<author>Lord Ender</author>
	<datestamp>1257418380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cordless phones don't have robust computers; cell phones do. Adding features, such as address list synchronization, is a thousand times easier to do using Java (on a smartphone) than it is to do using PIC microcontroller assembly  (on a cordless phone).</p><p>You want cordless phones with cell phone features? Expect to pay $400 for your set of four, rather than paying $60 for the set you currently have.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cordless phones do n't have robust computers ; cell phones do .
Adding features , such as address list synchronization , is a thousand times easier to do using Java ( on a smartphone ) than it is to do using PIC microcontroller assembly ( on a cordless phone ) .You want cordless phones with cell phone features ?
Expect to pay $ 400 for your set of four , rather than paying $ 60 for the set you currently have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cordless phones don't have robust computers; cell phones do.
Adding features, such as address list synchronization, is a thousand times easier to do using Java (on a smartphone) than it is to do using PIC microcontroller assembly  (on a cordless phone).You want cordless phones with cell phone features?
Expect to pay $400 for your set of four, rather than paying $60 for the set you currently have.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000964</id>
	<title>My solution</title>
	<author>Eil</author>
	<datestamp>1257421320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tack up a sheet of phone numbers on the fridge</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tack up a sheet of phone numbers on the fridge</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tack up a sheet of phone numbers on the fridge</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30003208</id>
	<title>Re:Not now, but 10 years ago</title>
	<author>rabuksak</author>
	<datestamp>1257446040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm somewhat ashamed to admit I actually owned that phone, and liked it.<br>
<br>
I've always been surprised to never see anything like it again, however.  The handset itself was huge, but I recall the features worked quite well, both with calls made via the computer and calls made with the handset.  Voice-dialing even worked well.
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-0A8n4POU4" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">MCPS Commercial</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm somewhat ashamed to admit I actually owned that phone , and liked it .
I 've always been surprised to never see anything like it again , however .
The handset itself was huge , but I recall the features worked quite well , both with calls made via the computer and calls made with the handset .
Voice-dialing even worked well .
MCPS Commercial [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm somewhat ashamed to admit I actually owned that phone, and liked it.
I've always been surprised to never see anything like it again, however.
The handset itself was huge, but I recall the features worked quite well, both with calls made via the computer and calls made with the handset.
Voice-dialing even worked well.
MCPS Commercial [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999456</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000332</id>
	<title>Re:Why are you so backwards?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257418260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why on earth are you still using a landline? A mobile phone will probably be cheaper</p></div><p>Mobile phones are a lot of things, but being cheaper isn't one of them.  We talk to Canada for over 1000 minutes per month.  I can easily afford to pay for my Qwest landline with unlimited calling to Canada for just those long-distance charges.  Any time you get into many minutes for multiple people, cell phone plans start to suck.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why on earth are you still using a landline ?
A mobile phone will probably be cheaperMobile phones are a lot of things , but being cheaper is n't one of them .
We talk to Canada for over 1000 minutes per month .
I can easily afford to pay for my Qwest landline with unlimited calling to Canada for just those long-distance charges .
Any time you get into many minutes for multiple people , cell phone plans start to suck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why on earth are you still using a landline?
A mobile phone will probably be cheaperMobile phones are a lot of things, but being cheaper isn't one of them.
We talk to Canada for over 1000 minutes per month.
I can easily afford to pay for my Qwest landline with unlimited calling to Canada for just those long-distance charges.
Any time you get into many minutes for multiple people, cell phone plans start to suck.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999488</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999980</id>
	<title>Re:Depends.</title>
	<author>ericfitz</author>
	<datestamp>1257416700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A good old <i>wired</i> POTS phone will work even if the power is out at your house.  No UPS necessary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A good old wired POTS phone will work even if the power is out at your house .
No UPS necessary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A good old wired POTS phone will work even if the power is out at your house.
No UPS necessary.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999474</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30002816</id>
	<title>Well look at you</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257438300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>A landline you say. Gosh haven't had one of those for many years, I applied for one six months ago, but I'm told that in my area they are out of capacity and can't offer me one at this time. This happens to be in Sandton, Johannesburg, which incidentally happens to be the premier business hub of the whole of Africa.

To say I'm pissed off would be an understatement. I'm paying ~$50/mo for a crappy internet service which at that price offers 3.5 GB traffic per month. I can't even download that much in a month because the connection is so shit. 9 times out of 10 a page load fails. I've had it up to HERE with this bollox, and i'm going in to their head office next month with a grenade.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A landline you say .
Gosh have n't had one of those for many years , I applied for one six months ago , but I 'm told that in my area they are out of capacity and ca n't offer me one at this time .
This happens to be in Sandton , Johannesburg , which incidentally happens to be the premier business hub of the whole of Africa .
To say I 'm pissed off would be an understatement .
I 'm paying ~ $ 50/mo for a crappy internet service which at that price offers 3.5 GB traffic per month .
I ca n't even download that much in a month because the connection is so shit .
9 times out of 10 a page load fails .
I 've had it up to HERE with this bollox , and i 'm going in to their head office next month with a grenade .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A landline you say.
Gosh haven't had one of those for many years, I applied for one six months ago, but I'm told that in my area they are out of capacity and can't offer me one at this time.
This happens to be in Sandton, Johannesburg, which incidentally happens to be the premier business hub of the whole of Africa.
To say I'm pissed off would be an understatement.
I'm paying ~$50/mo for a crappy internet service which at that price offers 3.5 GB traffic per month.
I can't even download that much in a month because the connection is so shit.
9 times out of 10 a page load fails.
I've had it up to HERE with this bollox, and i'm going in to their head office next month with a grenade.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30002896</id>
	<title>Skype phone</title>
	<author>LongearedBat</author>
	<datestamp>1257439680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Would a Skype phone do the job?  Okay, so IP telephony doesn't have the reliability of a fixed land line, but for everyday use it should be fine.<br>
<br>
Skype can:<br>
- on my computer, access my contacts list in Outlook<br>
- keep a list of recent events (calls and conversations)<br>
- do voicemail<br>
- do call forwarding<br>
<br>
My question is:<br>
Are there any Skype phones that can talk to a contacts list on some specified computer?  (I assume not.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would a Skype phone do the job ?
Okay , so IP telephony does n't have the reliability of a fixed land line , but for everyday use it should be fine .
Skype can : - on my computer , access my contacts list in Outlook - keep a list of recent events ( calls and conversations ) - do voicemail - do call forwarding My question is : Are there any Skype phones that can talk to a contacts list on some specified computer ?
( I assume not .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would a Skype phone do the job?
Okay, so IP telephony doesn't have the reliability of a fixed land line, but for everyday use it should be fine.
Skype can:
- on my computer, access my contacts list in Outlook
- keep a list of recent events (calls and conversations)
- do voicemail
- do call forwarding

My question is:
Are there any Skype phones that can talk to a contacts list on some specified computer?
(I assume not.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30002298</id>
	<title>Step 1: Buy a new phone</title>
	<author>brunes69</author>
	<datestamp>1257431820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yours seems antiquated. My 4 handset Panasonic system has a shared phonebook - add a number to one, it shows on all instantly. Also it sets its own time off of the phone network.</p><p>Step 2 would be to switch to a VOIP provider that can give you all of the call logging and other things you talk about. We have Vonage but any VOIP provider has all that stuff, and more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yours seems antiquated .
My 4 handset Panasonic system has a shared phonebook - add a number to one , it shows on all instantly .
Also it sets its own time off of the phone network.Step 2 would be to switch to a VOIP provider that can give you all of the call logging and other things you talk about .
We have Vonage but any VOIP provider has all that stuff , and more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yours seems antiquated.
My 4 handset Panasonic system has a shared phonebook - add a number to one, it shows on all instantly.
Also it sets its own time off of the phone network.Step 2 would be to switch to a VOIP provider that can give you all of the call logging and other things you talk about.
We have Vonage but any VOIP provider has all that stuff, and more.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999740</id>
	<title>partial solution</title>
	<author>sribe</author>
	<datestamp>1257415740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Doesn't do anything about synching the phone books, but logging caller id, forwarding voice mail to email, remote access to voice mail: <a href="http://www.parliant.com/" title="parliant.com">PhoneValet</a> [parliant.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't do anything about synching the phone books , but logging caller id , forwarding voice mail to email , remote access to voice mail : PhoneValet [ parliant.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't do anything about synching the phone books, but logging caller id, forwarding voice mail to email, remote access to voice mail: PhoneValet [parliant.com].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999452</id>
	<title>Cybergenie</title>
	<author>alatar\_b</author>
	<datestamp>1257414480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.cygnion.net/" title="cygnion.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.cygnion.net/</a> [cygnion.net]
It did exist, and there are still some available out there if you look hard enough. It had some issues, the main one being lack of sales hampering the development of the technology any further, but it worked pretty well all being said.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.cygnion.net/ [ cygnion.net ] It did exist , and there are still some available out there if you look hard enough .
It had some issues , the main one being lack of sales hampering the development of the technology any further , but it worked pretty well all being said .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.cygnion.net/ [cygnion.net]
It did exist, and there are still some available out there if you look hard enough.
It had some issues, the main one being lack of sales hampering the development of the technology any further, but it worked pretty well all being said.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000904</id>
	<title>Port your number to GV</title>
	<author>dUN82</author>
	<datestamp>1257420960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>btw, yeah, if you are looking for something that does EXACTLY everything you need is a google voice number and port your home phone number when you sign up...</htmltext>
<tokenext>btw , yeah , if you are looking for something that does EXACTLY everything you need is a google voice number and port your home phone number when you sign up.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>btw, yeah, if you are looking for something that does EXACTLY everything you need is a google voice number and port your home phone number when you sign up...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999768</id>
	<title>Re:Regular phones are so backwards...</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1257415800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm, you've never heard of Fairpoint, then.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm , you 've never heard of Fairpoint , then .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm, you've never heard of Fairpoint, then.
:)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999440</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000884</id>
	<title>tkcid for Caller ID...</title>
	<author>Rick Richardson</author>
	<datestamp>1257420900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Same here. Panasonic 5.8 ghz with 1 base and 1+4 cordless handsets.  I use <a href="http://home.comcast.net/~rickrich1/sw/tkcid.tar.gz" title="comcast.net">http://home.comcast.net/~rickrich1/sw/tkcid.tar.gz</a> [comcast.net] (Linux) plus a Zoom modem for my Caller ID.  Also has "Blow Them Off" or "Play SIT tones".  Uses gnome for a GUI.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Same here .
Panasonic 5.8 ghz with 1 base and 1 + 4 cordless handsets .
I use http : //home.comcast.net/ ~ rickrich1/sw/tkcid.tar.gz [ comcast.net ] ( Linux ) plus a Zoom modem for my Caller ID .
Also has " Blow Them Off " or " Play SIT tones " .
Uses gnome for a GUI .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Same here.
Panasonic 5.8 ghz with 1 base and 1+4 cordless handsets.
I use http://home.comcast.net/~rickrich1/sw/tkcid.tar.gz [comcast.net] (Linux) plus a Zoom modem for my Caller ID.
Also has "Blow Them Off" or "Play SIT tones".
Uses gnome for a GUI.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000812</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257420480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and Jeeze! I've been having problems with my 1947 Raytheon AN/PRC-6 hand sets... sun flares, jammers on the grassy knoll?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and Jeeze !
I 've been having problems with my 1947 Raytheon AN/PRC-6 hand sets... sun flares , jammers on the grassy knoll ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and Jeeze!
I've been having problems with my 1947 Raytheon AN/PRC-6 hand sets... sun flares, jammers on the grassy knoll?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999404</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999708</id>
	<title>Re:The overkill solution</title>
	<author>Rob the Bold</author>
	<datestamp>1257415560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Time for overkill solution number 1:</p><p>1) Buy a SIP to POTS adapter
2) Install asterisk on your Linux server (You do have a Linux server right?)
3) Create a web app, preferably Ruby on Rails, that connects to Asterisk over the management port and dials a phone number and rings it back to your home phone line
4) Profit until the system breaks and the wife wrings your neck because she can't call to make her beauty salon appointment!</p><p>Enjoy!</p></div><p>If you don't want to kill it that much, you could switch to a VOIP service for your home number.  But your solution does have that cool Dr. Seuss/Rube Goldberg vibe, so don't let me discourage you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Time for overkill solution number 1 : 1 ) Buy a SIP to POTS adapter 2 ) Install asterisk on your Linux server ( You do have a Linux server right ?
) 3 ) Create a web app , preferably Ruby on Rails , that connects to Asterisk over the management port and dials a phone number and rings it back to your home phone line 4 ) Profit until the system breaks and the wife wrings your neck because she ca n't call to make her beauty salon appointment ! Enjoy ! If you do n't want to kill it that much , you could switch to a VOIP service for your home number .
But your solution does have that cool Dr. Seuss/Rube Goldberg vibe , so do n't let me discourage you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Time for overkill solution number 1:1) Buy a SIP to POTS adapter
2) Install asterisk on your Linux server (You do have a Linux server right?
)
3) Create a web app, preferably Ruby on Rails, that connects to Asterisk over the management port and dials a phone number and rings it back to your home phone line
4) Profit until the system breaks and the wife wrings your neck because she can't call to make her beauty salon appointment!Enjoy!If you don't want to kill it that much, you could switch to a VOIP service for your home number.
But your solution does have that cool Dr. Seuss/Rube Goldberg vibe, so don't let me discourage you.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999428</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001060</id>
	<title>Re:Why are you so backwards?</title>
	<author>raju1kabir</author>
	<datestamp>1257421740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Why on earth are you still using a landline? A mobile phone will probably be cheaper, you can take it with you anywhere (even in your home), and most of them can sync with your computer contacts (or even your contacts in the cloud).</p></div></blockquote><p>My landline is free (<a href="http://www.streamyx.com/promotions/promotions.php?id=streamyxcombo" title="streamyx.com">included with DSL</a> [streamyx.com], they're desperate to keep subscribers), whereas my mobile costs me $15/month.</p><p>The cordless phone works perfectly everywhere in the house, whereas the mobile only works in certain magic spots (they tell me this is a normal consequence of living way up in a high-rise).
</p><p>The landline has crystal clear quality at all times, whereas the mobile is compressed and ugly even under the best of circumstances.
</p><p>The landline lets me use any number of nice, easy-to-hold phones with great speakerphones, whereas the mobile only lets me use tiny little things that are impossible to rest on my shoulder while using my hands for anything.
</p><p>The landline integrates perfectly with my Asterisk VoIP setup at no cost, whereas the mobile requires me to pay $0.04/minute when I route calls to it.
</p><p>The landline + VoIP arrangement lets me call almost any country I need to at piddling charges ($0.00-$0.02/minute); the mobile is $0.05/minute at best for international calls and skyrockets upward from there for certain destinations.
</p><p>A good landline phone costs $40 and a good VoIP phone costs $200. A good mobile costs $600.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why on earth are you still using a landline ?
A mobile phone will probably be cheaper , you can take it with you anywhere ( even in your home ) , and most of them can sync with your computer contacts ( or even your contacts in the cloud ) .My landline is free ( included with DSL [ streamyx.com ] , they 're desperate to keep subscribers ) , whereas my mobile costs me $ 15/month.The cordless phone works perfectly everywhere in the house , whereas the mobile only works in certain magic spots ( they tell me this is a normal consequence of living way up in a high-rise ) .
The landline has crystal clear quality at all times , whereas the mobile is compressed and ugly even under the best of circumstances .
The landline lets me use any number of nice , easy-to-hold phones with great speakerphones , whereas the mobile only lets me use tiny little things that are impossible to rest on my shoulder while using my hands for anything .
The landline integrates perfectly with my Asterisk VoIP setup at no cost , whereas the mobile requires me to pay $ 0.04/minute when I route calls to it .
The landline + VoIP arrangement lets me call almost any country I need to at piddling charges ( $ 0.00- $ 0.02/minute ) ; the mobile is $ 0.05/minute at best for international calls and skyrockets upward from there for certain destinations .
A good landline phone costs $ 40 and a good VoIP phone costs $ 200 .
A good mobile costs $ 600 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why on earth are you still using a landline?
A mobile phone will probably be cheaper, you can take it with you anywhere (even in your home), and most of them can sync with your computer contacts (or even your contacts in the cloud).My landline is free (included with DSL [streamyx.com], they're desperate to keep subscribers), whereas my mobile costs me $15/month.The cordless phone works perfectly everywhere in the house, whereas the mobile only works in certain magic spots (they tell me this is a normal consequence of living way up in a high-rise).
The landline has crystal clear quality at all times, whereas the mobile is compressed and ugly even under the best of circumstances.
The landline lets me use any number of nice, easy-to-hold phones with great speakerphones, whereas the mobile only lets me use tiny little things that are impossible to rest on my shoulder while using my hands for anything.
The landline integrates perfectly with my Asterisk VoIP setup at no cost, whereas the mobile requires me to pay $0.04/minute when I route calls to it.
The landline + VoIP arrangement lets me call almost any country I need to at piddling charges ($0.00-$0.02/minute); the mobile is $0.05/minute at best for international calls and skyrockets upward from there for certain destinations.
A good landline phone costs $40 and a good VoIP phone costs $200.
A good mobile costs $600.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999488</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000836</id>
	<title>Siemens</title>
	<author>pix</author>
	<datestamp>1257420600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Siemens Gigaset.....will allow you to copy phone book from handset to handset....supports bluetooth for headphones and syncing address book with PC</htmltext>
<tokenext>Siemens Gigaset.....will allow you to copy phone book from handset to handset....supports bluetooth for headphones and syncing address book with PC</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Siemens Gigaset.....will allow you to copy phone book from handset to handset....supports bluetooth for headphones and syncing address book with PC</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999932</id>
	<title>very good advance phone system</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257416520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Verizon has a phone service called IOBI<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... it does all you ask plus it takes your voice mail and changes it to text<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... you link with another service from Verizon (Wireless) called the Hub and it will do everything but brush your teeth and comb your hair</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Verizon has a phone service called IOBI ... it does all you ask plus it takes your voice mail and changes it to text ... you link with another service from Verizon ( Wireless ) called the Hub and it will do everything but brush your teeth and comb your hair</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Verizon has a phone service called IOBI ... it does all you ask plus it takes your voice mail and changes it to text ... you link with another service from Verizon (Wireless) called the Hub and it will do everything but brush your teeth and comb your hair</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30004248</id>
	<title>I use a Du@lphone that synchronises easily</title>
	<author>weeble</author>
	<datestamp>1257508140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It connects to the network via ethernet cable and synchronises time via a time server, it can obtain a full addressbook via my skype account.</p><p>If I want to make a call I can choose to make the call via skype or via the land line, similarly it will receive calls both through the landline and skype.</p><p>If you do not want to use skype you could just consider it an application to edit your addressbook.  I can have multiple handsets on the same base station and they all update simultaneously.</p><p>Using skype it is much closer to cross platform than something that is tied to Outlook or some other Microsoft application.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It connects to the network via ethernet cable and synchronises time via a time server , it can obtain a full addressbook via my skype account.If I want to make a call I can choose to make the call via skype or via the land line , similarly it will receive calls both through the landline and skype.If you do not want to use skype you could just consider it an application to edit your addressbook .
I can have multiple handsets on the same base station and they all update simultaneously.Using skype it is much closer to cross platform than something that is tied to Outlook or some other Microsoft application .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It connects to the network via ethernet cable and synchronises time via a time server, it can obtain a full addressbook via my skype account.If I want to make a call I can choose to make the call via skype or via the land line, similarly it will receive calls both through the landline and skype.If you do not want to use skype you could just consider it an application to edit your addressbook.
I can have multiple handsets on the same base station and they all update simultaneously.Using skype it is much closer to cross platform than something that is tied to Outlook or some other Microsoft application.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001612</id>
	<title>Re:Depends.</title>
	<author>Albanach</author>
	<datestamp>1257425160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My Siemens Gigaset    A580 IP phones can load and export their directory in vcard format - it should be trivial to script something to automatically sync this via their web interface.</p><p>They can handle six voip providers and have a POTS connection.</p><p>Couldn't ask for more in a set of phones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My Siemens Gigaset A580 IP phones can load and export their directory in vcard format - it should be trivial to script something to automatically sync this via their web interface.They can handle six voip providers and have a POTS connection.Could n't ask for more in a set of phones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My Siemens Gigaset    A580 IP phones can load and export their directory in vcard format - it should be trivial to script something to automatically sync this via their web interface.They can handle six voip providers and have a POTS connection.Couldn't ask for more in a set of phones.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999474</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999428</id>
	<title>The overkill solution</title>
	<author>clutch110</author>
	<datestamp>1257414420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Time for overkill solution number 1:</p><p>1) Buy a SIP to POTS adapter<br>2) Install asterisk on your Linux server (You do have a Linux server right?)<br>3) Create a web app, preferably Ruby on Rails, that connects to Asterisk over the management port and dials a phone number and rings it back to your home phone line<br>4) Profit until the system breaks and the wife wrings your neck because she can't call to make her beauty salon appointment!</p><p>Enjoy!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Time for overkill solution number 1 : 1 ) Buy a SIP to POTS adapter2 ) Install asterisk on your Linux server ( You do have a Linux server right ?
) 3 ) Create a web app , preferably Ruby on Rails , that connects to Asterisk over the management port and dials a phone number and rings it back to your home phone line4 ) Profit until the system breaks and the wife wrings your neck because she ca n't call to make her beauty salon appointment ! Enjoy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Time for overkill solution number 1:1) Buy a SIP to POTS adapter2) Install asterisk on your Linux server (You do have a Linux server right?
)3) Create a web app, preferably Ruby on Rails, that connects to Asterisk over the management port and dials a phone number and rings it back to your home phone line4) Profit until the system breaks and the wife wrings your neck because she can't call to make her beauty salon appointment!Enjoy!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001024</id>
	<title>and google voice on a pda</title>
	<author>Dare nMc</author>
	<datestamp>1257421560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Install google voice application on a wifi pda, it will give you chat+voip+robust phone number list that follows to cell phones, work, etc.  Thus no longdistance (nationwide) and cheapeast international rates.<br>I don't know that asterisk is that hard.  I downloaded trixbox.org CD, and stuck it in a old PC with a digium adapter, it rebooted and I had a phone system.  The sweet thing is it does the land line, also with google voice, and my old school dell axim, the google voice application with bluetooth headset, and a voip application. You then got everything on one device.<br>I used this at a small office, added some dialing rules and a UPS.  It was almost too reliable, we would lose either VOIP, or a analog line and it would realize this and route around it.  It wouldn't be until we were getting busy phone line complaints from outside, or a long distance bill that I would realize qwest had screwed up our lines, or the VOIP carrier had issues.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Install google voice application on a wifi pda , it will give you chat + voip + robust phone number list that follows to cell phones , work , etc .
Thus no longdistance ( nationwide ) and cheapeast international rates.I do n't know that asterisk is that hard .
I downloaded trixbox.org CD , and stuck it in a old PC with a digium adapter , it rebooted and I had a phone system .
The sweet thing is it does the land line , also with google voice , and my old school dell axim , the google voice application with bluetooth headset , and a voip application .
You then got everything on one device.I used this at a small office , added some dialing rules and a UPS .
It was almost too reliable , we would lose either VOIP , or a analog line and it would realize this and route around it .
It would n't be until we were getting busy phone line complaints from outside , or a long distance bill that I would realize qwest had screwed up our lines , or the VOIP carrier had issues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Install google voice application on a wifi pda, it will give you chat+voip+robust phone number list that follows to cell phones, work, etc.
Thus no longdistance (nationwide) and cheapeast international rates.I don't know that asterisk is that hard.
I downloaded trixbox.org CD, and stuck it in a old PC with a digium adapter, it rebooted and I had a phone system.
The sweet thing is it does the land line, also with google voice, and my old school dell axim, the google voice application with bluetooth headset, and a voip application.
You then got everything on one device.I used this at a small office, added some dialing rules and a UPS.
It was almost too reliable, we would lose either VOIP, or a analog line and it would realize this and route around it.
It wouldn't be until we were getting busy phone line complaints from outside, or a long distance bill that I would realize qwest had screwed up our lines, or the VOIP carrier had issues.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999428</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001170</id>
	<title>Landline?</title>
	<author>kheldan</author>
	<datestamp>1257422220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You mean people still use wired telephone service? I dropped wired service three years ago as the waste of money that it is and I have no regrets. Unless you have DSL for broadband internet access, or your work/business requires you to have it, or you live somewhere where there is no cell service, I see no reason to have wired telephone service anymore.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean people still use wired telephone service ?
I dropped wired service three years ago as the waste of money that it is and I have no regrets .
Unless you have DSL for broadband internet access , or your work/business requires you to have it , or you live somewhere where there is no cell service , I see no reason to have wired telephone service anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean people still use wired telephone service?
I dropped wired service three years ago as the waste of money that it is and I have no regrets.
Unless you have DSL for broadband internet access, or your work/business requires you to have it, or you live somewhere where there is no cell service, I see no reason to have wired telephone service anymore.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001942</id>
	<title>Siemens Gigaset</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257427980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have Siemens Gigaset S685 IP that<br>1) has import/export on base station that then replicates out to handsets<br>2) has bluetooth on handsets for contacts sync</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have Siemens Gigaset S685 IP that1 ) has import/export on base station that then replicates out to handsets2 ) has bluetooth on handsets for contacts sync</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have Siemens Gigaset S685 IP that1) has import/export on base station that then replicates out to handsets2) has bluetooth on handsets for contacts sync</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30003974</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>RMH101</author>
	<datestamp>1257503220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>it's the thing that provides your ADSL broadband service.  I don't use mine for anything else.</htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's the thing that provides your ADSL broadband service .
I do n't use mine for anything else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's the thing that provides your ADSL broadband service.
I don't use mine for anything else.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999404</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001852</id>
	<title>Two solutions!</title>
	<author>bluecap</author>
	<datestamp>1257427260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Timothy, your question does carry a hint of mac-centricity. So I'll give you two options for that platform which might both interest you even in combination. I've known Phlink for several years and the Siemens solution is new:

1. Siemens DECT phones now allow synching with the Mac's address book via bluetooth.

<a href="http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq\_en\_0\_171451\_rArNrNrNrN\_parent\%253A171447,00.html" title="gigaset.com" rel="nofollow">http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq\_en\_0\_171451\_rArNrNrNrN\_parent\%253A171447,00.html</a> [gigaset.com]

and

2. OvoLab's excellent Phlink allows you to perform all kinds of phone automation even (or maybe unfortunately) without being a VoIP solution. Here you can use in-built workflows, apple script or develop automator flows to your heart's content for calling, accepting/rejecting/logging calls, answering machine recording, notification, faxing, etc.

<a href="http://www.ovolab.com/phlink/index.php" title="ovolab.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ovolab.com/phlink/index.php</a> [ovolab.com]

Enjoy!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Timothy , your question does carry a hint of mac-centricity .
So I 'll give you two options for that platform which might both interest you even in combination .
I 've known Phlink for several years and the Siemens solution is new : 1 .
Siemens DECT phones now allow synching with the Mac 's address book via bluetooth .
http : //gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq \ _en \ _0 \ _171451 \ _rArNrNrNrN \ _parent \ % 253A171447,00.html [ gigaset.com ] and 2 .
OvoLab 's excellent Phlink allows you to perform all kinds of phone automation even ( or maybe unfortunately ) without being a VoIP solution .
Here you can use in-built workflows , apple script or develop automator flows to your heart 's content for calling , accepting/rejecting/logging calls , answering machine recording , notification , faxing , etc .
http : //www.ovolab.com/phlink/index.php [ ovolab.com ] Enjoy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Timothy, your question does carry a hint of mac-centricity.
So I'll give you two options for that platform which might both interest you even in combination.
I've known Phlink for several years and the Siemens solution is new:

1.
Siemens DECT phones now allow synching with the Mac's address book via bluetooth.
http://gigaset.com/shc/0,1935,hq\_en\_0\_171451\_rArNrNrNrN\_parent\%253A171447,00.html [gigaset.com]

and

2.
OvoLab's excellent Phlink allows you to perform all kinds of phone automation even (or maybe unfortunately) without being a VoIP solution.
Here you can use in-built workflows, apple script or develop automator flows to your heart's content for calling, accepting/rejecting/logging calls, answering machine recording, notification, faxing, etc.
http://www.ovolab.com/phlink/index.php [ovolab.com]

Enjoy!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30002868</id>
	<title>Re:Go Analog</title>
	<author>sapphire wyvern</author>
	<datestamp>1257439080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, but I find it doesn't work too well with multi-user simultaneous access, and the sync features are positively primitive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , but I find it does n't work too well with multi-user simultaneous access , and the sync features are positively primitive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, but I find it doesn't work too well with multi-user simultaneous access, and the sync features are positively primitive.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000234</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000462</id>
	<title>Cybergenie does all you ask</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257418920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But its a little outdated. I ran my home and small biz office on it for years</p><p>http://www.cygnion.net/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But its a little outdated .
I ran my home and small biz office on it for yearshttp : //www.cygnion.net/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But its a little outdated.
I ran my home and small biz office on it for yearshttp://www.cygnion.net/</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999448</id>
	<title>It's called Asterisk</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257414480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, it's called Asterisk, but it requires more than a box you buy at a retail store. You can share a phone book and click-to-dial (Asteridex) based on entries in MySQL. It supports about every feature you can think of for the phone, from wake-up calls to auto-forwarding. Get a VOIP trunk running SIP and you'll also pay far less for phone service. You still need a tiny server running Linux, some IP phones, or an analog card, but you'll have total control and all the features you want. Personally, I like FreePBX (http://freepbx.org), and there are even easier-to-setup versions such as the distro at <a href="http://nerdvittles.com/" title="nerdvittles.com" rel="nofollow">http://nerdvittles.com/</a> [nerdvittles.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , it 's called Asterisk , but it requires more than a box you buy at a retail store .
You can share a phone book and click-to-dial ( Asteridex ) based on entries in MySQL .
It supports about every feature you can think of for the phone , from wake-up calls to auto-forwarding .
Get a VOIP trunk running SIP and you 'll also pay far less for phone service .
You still need a tiny server running Linux , some IP phones , or an analog card , but you 'll have total control and all the features you want .
Personally , I like FreePBX ( http : //freepbx.org ) , and there are even easier-to-setup versions such as the distro at http : //nerdvittles.com/ [ nerdvittles.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, it's called Asterisk, but it requires more than a box you buy at a retail store.
You can share a phone book and click-to-dial (Asteridex) based on entries in MySQL.
It supports about every feature you can think of for the phone, from wake-up calls to auto-forwarding.
Get a VOIP trunk running SIP and you'll also pay far less for phone service.
You still need a tiny server running Linux, some IP phones, or an analog card, but you'll have total control and all the features you want.
Personally, I like FreePBX (http://freepbx.org), and there are even easier-to-setup versions such as the distro at http://nerdvittles.com/ [nerdvittles.com].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999804</id>
	<title>Re:Regular phones are so backwards...</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1257415980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I haven't had a POTS phone since 2002, and never missed it. In fact, I've never seen it NOT work since then. When the tornados tore through my neighborhood in March 2006, my phone worked fine. POTS phones were out for weeks.</p><p>I really don't see much use for POTS phones, or for making them "smart" (which would only require a wifi or bluetooth connection to your PC, and a little software).</p><p>Damn, dude, I'm 57, you must REALLY be old. Are you on the right site?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't had a POTS phone since 2002 , and never missed it .
In fact , I 've never seen it NOT work since then .
When the tornados tore through my neighborhood in March 2006 , my phone worked fine .
POTS phones were out for weeks.I really do n't see much use for POTS phones , or for making them " smart " ( which would only require a wifi or bluetooth connection to your PC , and a little software ) .Damn , dude , I 'm 57 , you must REALLY be old .
Are you on the right site ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't had a POTS phone since 2002, and never missed it.
In fact, I've never seen it NOT work since then.
When the tornados tore through my neighborhood in March 2006, my phone worked fine.
POTS phones were out for weeks.I really don't see much use for POTS phones, or for making them "smart" (which would only require a wifi or bluetooth connection to your PC, and a little software).Damn, dude, I'm 57, you must REALLY be old.
Are you on the right site?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999440</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000018</id>
	<title>Landline abandonment</title>
	<author>cdrguru</author>
	<datestamp>1257416820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I see lots of people deciding they don't need a landline any more.  Well, for a single person or in the case where everyone in the house has a cell phone, that can work.  It works better when your wireless carrier has a WiFi component to their plan - although since they lose money by the fistful on these I would expect either the carrier or the plan to disappear.</p><p>But what happens when you have a three-year-old child?  Going to get them a cell phone?  I don't think so.  And while you can teach a three year old to dial 911 calling from a cell phone may not be anywhere near as easy or helpful.  In a house the GPS chip isn't going to work so well, so your phone isn't going to know where it is.  Meaning that the fire department doesn't know where to go.</p><p>Landline phone service is also just plain more reliable.  If you live in an area where there are weather-related power outages, which is just about anywhere, you can't assume that the cell tower infrastructure has much battery backup - some have none at all.  Contrast this with the landline Central Office which when the batteries start getting low fires up the generator to keep dial tone available.  I have had no electricity from the power company for more than 24 hours after an ice storm, before there were cell phones.  After a few hours a cell phone would be a paperweight under these circumstances.</p><p>Why do you need a land line?  Children.  Emergencies.  Power outages.  Maybe you don't care now, but you very well might in the future.</p><p>And one thing to consider.  If enough people drop land lines, they will disappear entirely.  Try, just try to find a pay phone outside of an airport or train station today.  Nobody needs them, unless your cell phone dies and you need to call someone like maybe a tow truck.  Good luck, because pay phones have been declared obsolete.  So now there is no alternative.  Land lines might be declared obsolete as well - in which case good luck teaching your young children how to dial out on your Blackberry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I see lots of people deciding they do n't need a landline any more .
Well , for a single person or in the case where everyone in the house has a cell phone , that can work .
It works better when your wireless carrier has a WiFi component to their plan - although since they lose money by the fistful on these I would expect either the carrier or the plan to disappear.But what happens when you have a three-year-old child ?
Going to get them a cell phone ?
I do n't think so .
And while you can teach a three year old to dial 911 calling from a cell phone may not be anywhere near as easy or helpful .
In a house the GPS chip is n't going to work so well , so your phone is n't going to know where it is .
Meaning that the fire department does n't know where to go.Landline phone service is also just plain more reliable .
If you live in an area where there are weather-related power outages , which is just about anywhere , you ca n't assume that the cell tower infrastructure has much battery backup - some have none at all .
Contrast this with the landline Central Office which when the batteries start getting low fires up the generator to keep dial tone available .
I have had no electricity from the power company for more than 24 hours after an ice storm , before there were cell phones .
After a few hours a cell phone would be a paperweight under these circumstances.Why do you need a land line ?
Children. Emergencies .
Power outages .
Maybe you do n't care now , but you very well might in the future.And one thing to consider .
If enough people drop land lines , they will disappear entirely .
Try , just try to find a pay phone outside of an airport or train station today .
Nobody needs them , unless your cell phone dies and you need to call someone like maybe a tow truck .
Good luck , because pay phones have been declared obsolete .
So now there is no alternative .
Land lines might be declared obsolete as well - in which case good luck teaching your young children how to dial out on your Blackberry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see lots of people deciding they don't need a landline any more.
Well, for a single person or in the case where everyone in the house has a cell phone, that can work.
It works better when your wireless carrier has a WiFi component to their plan - although since they lose money by the fistful on these I would expect either the carrier or the plan to disappear.But what happens when you have a three-year-old child?
Going to get them a cell phone?
I don't think so.
And while you can teach a three year old to dial 911 calling from a cell phone may not be anywhere near as easy or helpful.
In a house the GPS chip isn't going to work so well, so your phone isn't going to know where it is.
Meaning that the fire department doesn't know where to go.Landline phone service is also just plain more reliable.
If you live in an area where there are weather-related power outages, which is just about anywhere, you can't assume that the cell tower infrastructure has much battery backup - some have none at all.
Contrast this with the landline Central Office which when the batteries start getting low fires up the generator to keep dial tone available.
I have had no electricity from the power company for more than 24 hours after an ice storm, before there were cell phones.
After a few hours a cell phone would be a paperweight under these circumstances.Why do you need a land line?
Children.  Emergencies.
Power outages.
Maybe you don't care now, but you very well might in the future.And one thing to consider.
If enough people drop land lines, they will disappear entirely.
Try, just try to find a pay phone outside of an airport or train station today.
Nobody needs them, unless your cell phone dies and you need to call someone like maybe a tow truck.
Good luck, because pay phones have been declared obsolete.
So now there is no alternative.
Land lines might be declared obsolete as well - in which case good luck teaching your young children how to dial out on your Blackberry.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30014402</id>
	<title>Re:It's called Asterisk</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257611280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's called FreeSWITCH nowadays.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's called FreeSWITCH nowadays .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's called FreeSWITCH nowadays.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999448</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30002808</id>
	<title>Re:Why are you so backwards?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257438120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You talk to Canada and you're wondering why someone is backwards?  Rewind that just a little bit....you talk to Canada?  Why, that's almost like another country.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You talk to Canada and you 're wondering why someone is backwards ?
Rewind that just a little bit....you talk to Canada ?
Why , that 's almost like another country .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You talk to Canada and you're wondering why someone is backwards?
Rewind that just a little bit....you talk to Canada?
Why, that's almost like another country.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30002796</id>
	<title>Home Phone System sync with Computer</title>
	<author>bnordan2</author>
	<datestamp>1257437880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One exists right now and is very simple to setup, you can also buy it at a local electronics store.  It is the iPhone + MobielMe + Mac computer.  You can sync wireless, automatically and both directions between all the components.  Works great for me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One exists right now and is very simple to setup , you can also buy it at a local electronics store .
It is the iPhone + MobielMe + Mac computer .
You can sync wireless , automatically and both directions between all the components .
Works great for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One exists right now and is very simple to setup, you can also buy it at a local electronics store.
It is the iPhone + MobielMe + Mac computer.
You can sync wireless, automatically and both directions between all the components.
Works great for me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999814</id>
	<title>Re:The overkill solution</title>
	<author>Darth Sdlavrot</author>
	<datestamp>1257416040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>2) Install asterisk on your Linux server (You do have a Linux server right?)</p></div><p>Nope, FreeBSD. Next question!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>2 ) Install asterisk on your Linux server ( You do have a Linux server right ?
) Nope , FreeBSD .
Next question !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2) Install asterisk on your Linux server (You do have a Linux server right?
)Nope, FreeBSD.
Next question!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999428</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001962</id>
	<title>Going the Asterisk route would be EXPENSIVE:(</title>
	<author>irieken</author>
	<datestamp>1257428100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I love Asterisk as much as the next guy, but it DOES NOT SOLVE THE PARENT's problem on its own... The original poster wanted a way to sync phonebook directory and view call logs. Asterisk can do the call logs, but VOIP phones and an auto-configuration system is really needed for shared/distributed directory. Unfortunately, that's where the cost starts going up.
<br> <br>
PBX In A Flash, combined with an assortment of Aastra or Polycom VOIP stations (cordless also available) gets my vote; there are modules for PBXIAF (FreePBX modules) that allow for phone configuration and centralized directory updates. Yay for free software. Unfortunately, good entry-level SIP VOIP phones are still around $200 a piece, and I doubt that the original poster expected to shell out $800 just to get his phonebook shared between his phones.
<br> <br>
Add another $200 if he wants the ability to use his existing landline (entry-level Sangoma card).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I love Asterisk as much as the next guy , but it DOES NOT SOLVE THE PARENT 's problem on its own... The original poster wanted a way to sync phonebook directory and view call logs .
Asterisk can do the call logs , but VOIP phones and an auto-configuration system is really needed for shared/distributed directory .
Unfortunately , that 's where the cost starts going up .
PBX In A Flash , combined with an assortment of Aastra or Polycom VOIP stations ( cordless also available ) gets my vote ; there are modules for PBXIAF ( FreePBX modules ) that allow for phone configuration and centralized directory updates .
Yay for free software .
Unfortunately , good entry-level SIP VOIP phones are still around $ 200 a piece , and I doubt that the original poster expected to shell out $ 800 just to get his phonebook shared between his phones .
Add another $ 200 if he wants the ability to use his existing landline ( entry-level Sangoma card ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love Asterisk as much as the next guy, but it DOES NOT SOLVE THE PARENT's problem on its own... The original poster wanted a way to sync phonebook directory and view call logs.
Asterisk can do the call logs, but VOIP phones and an auto-configuration system is really needed for shared/distributed directory.
Unfortunately, that's where the cost starts going up.
PBX In A Flash, combined with an assortment of Aastra or Polycom VOIP stations (cordless also available) gets my vote; there are modules for PBXIAF (FreePBX modules) that allow for phone configuration and centralized directory updates.
Yay for free software.
Unfortunately, good entry-level SIP VOIP phones are still around $200 a piece, and I doubt that the original poster expected to shell out $800 just to get his phonebook shared between his phones.
Add another $200 if he wants the ability to use his existing landline (entry-level Sangoma card).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999574</id>
	<title>Re:no. it does not.</title>
	<author>Phoenixlol</author>
	<datestamp>1257414960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>you never know... <a href="http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=fancy+home+phone" title="lmgtfy.com" rel="nofollow">here, </a> [lmgtfy.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>you never know... here , [ lmgtfy.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you never know... here,  [lmgtfy.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999346</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30010170</id>
	<title>Re:Not For Consumers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257503940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My 29-year old daughter got her first ever landline phone but only because in her new condo, the door buzzer only works through a landline phone!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My 29-year old daughter got her first ever landline phone but only because in her new condo , the door buzzer only works through a landline phone !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My 29-year old daughter got her first ever landline phone but only because in her new condo, the door buzzer only works through a landline phone!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999494</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001254</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>mseidl</author>
	<datestamp>1257422640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's how you get out of the matrix.  Duh.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's how you get out of the matrix .
Duh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's how you get out of the matrix.
Duh.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999404</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000660</id>
	<title>Do we need this?</title>
	<author>Murdoch5</author>
	<datestamp>1257419760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>A phone is a phone.  Well I can agree with it being wireless I don't see the need for much else.   An answering machine is useful also, so all we really need in a home phone is a answering machine and wireless capability, that's it.   Anything else would be useless or pointless in a home phone system.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A phone is a phone .
Well I can agree with it being wireless I do n't see the need for much else .
An answering machine is useful also , so all we really need in a home phone is a answering machine and wireless capability , that 's it .
Anything else would be useless or pointless in a home phone system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A phone is a phone.
Well I can agree with it being wireless I don't see the need for much else.
An answering machine is useful also, so all we really need in a home phone is a answering machine and wireless capability, that's it.
Anything else would be useless or pointless in a home phone system.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000342</id>
	<title>Re:no. it does not.</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1257418320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One of the true ironies of the tech world: Microsoft, by definition a software company, usually sells pretty good hardware; it is their software that leaves much to be desired. I really like their keyboards and mice, people say this phone was good, and even the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex\_Datalink" title="wikipedia.org">Timex/Microsoft watch</a> [wikipedia.org] worked.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the true ironies of the tech world : Microsoft , by definition a software company , usually sells pretty good hardware ; it is their software that leaves much to be desired .
I really like their keyboards and mice , people say this phone was good , and even the Timex/Microsoft watch [ wikipedia.org ] worked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the true ironies of the tech world: Microsoft, by definition a software company, usually sells pretty good hardware; it is their software that leaves much to be desired.
I really like their keyboards and mice, people say this phone was good, and even the Timex/Microsoft watch [wikipedia.org] worked.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999716</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001278</id>
	<title>Re:no. it does not.</title>
	<author>Mia'cova</author>
	<datestamp>1257422760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft is doing a lot with their communications server. Unified Communications doesn't directly apply to the at home scenario as you need a server. But it's pure gold for the corporate world. I kinda love being able to manage phone calls to my PC, get emails for missed calls/voicemail, redirect calls, set my status (away, busy, on the phone, in a meeting, etc), and manage an address book integrated contact list. Since it's an IP based network, my phone plugs connects over the wired network. I can move it around and still keep my phone number. It's really pretty nice. I can log in with Communicator from any PC and place calls from my work number, etc... Nice to get still get my work calls routed to my laptop while I'm out of the country traveling. If I had to use my cell, I'd end up with a huge bill. It's good stuff. If they're able to integrate this with windows mobile ala skype and provide a server for home users, it'd really dominate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft is doing a lot with their communications server .
Unified Communications does n't directly apply to the at home scenario as you need a server .
But it 's pure gold for the corporate world .
I kinda love being able to manage phone calls to my PC , get emails for missed calls/voicemail , redirect calls , set my status ( away , busy , on the phone , in a meeting , etc ) , and manage an address book integrated contact list .
Since it 's an IP based network , my phone plugs connects over the wired network .
I can move it around and still keep my phone number .
It 's really pretty nice .
I can log in with Communicator from any PC and place calls from my work number , etc... Nice to get still get my work calls routed to my laptop while I 'm out of the country traveling .
If I had to use my cell , I 'd end up with a huge bill .
It 's good stuff .
If they 're able to integrate this with windows mobile ala skype and provide a server for home users , it 'd really dominate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft is doing a lot with their communications server.
Unified Communications doesn't directly apply to the at home scenario as you need a server.
But it's pure gold for the corporate world.
I kinda love being able to manage phone calls to my PC, get emails for missed calls/voicemail, redirect calls, set my status (away, busy, on the phone, in a meeting, etc), and manage an address book integrated contact list.
Since it's an IP based network, my phone plugs connects over the wired network.
I can move it around and still keep my phone number.
It's really pretty nice.
I can log in with Communicator from any PC and place calls from my work number, etc... Nice to get still get my work calls routed to my laptop while I'm out of the country traveling.
If I had to use my cell, I'd end up with a huge bill.
It's good stuff.
If they're able to integrate this with windows mobile ala skype and provide a server for home users, it'd really dominate.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999716</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000448</id>
	<title>GV</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257418800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, it's called "Google Voice"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it 's called " Google Voice "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it's called "Google Voice"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999462</id>
	<title>My phone setup</title>
	<author>flyboyfred</author>
	<datestamp>1257414540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a Panasonic phone system with 3 cordless handsets and one base station.  It keeps all of the phone book entries centrally, so if you change it from one handset all get the change.  Same with the caller ID log.  No connection to my computer, but this sounds like most of what you're asking for.  Maybe you just need a newer phone?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Panasonic phone system with 3 cordless handsets and one base station .
It keeps all of the phone book entries centrally , so if you change it from one handset all get the change .
Same with the caller ID log .
No connection to my computer , but this sounds like most of what you 're asking for .
Maybe you just need a newer phone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Panasonic phone system with 3 cordless handsets and one base station.
It keeps all of the phone book entries centrally, so if you change it from one handset all get the change.
Same with the caller ID log.
No connection to my computer, but this sounds like most of what you're asking for.
Maybe you just need a newer phone?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000434</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257418740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Never had a job where you mattered eh?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Never had a job where you mattered eh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Never had a job where you mattered eh?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999404</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30003770</id>
	<title>Re:A Chain of Problems, Asterisk is not the Answer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257499680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Meaning a single address book shared/synced at all phones? You would need phones with *some* kind of open client interface. Of which, there are exactly zero."</p><p>But that is what you use asterisk for! Either build your own or use the build in Directory function.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Meaning a single address book shared/synced at all phones ?
You would need phones with * some * kind of open client interface .
Of which , there are exactly zero .
" But that is what you use asterisk for !
Either build your own or use the build in Directory function .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Meaning a single address book shared/synced at all phones?
You would need phones with *some* kind of open client interface.
Of which, there are exactly zero.
"But that is what you use asterisk for!
Either build your own or use the build in Directory function.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000058</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30002778</id>
	<title>Possible Solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257437460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I came across this once, but I haven't really researched far into it.  There's a system that was at least once sold by a company named CyberGenie.  It's a landline phone, and it does connect to your desktop PC to transfer your phonebook, at least.  It may have further capabilities worth looking into.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I came across this once , but I have n't really researched far into it .
There 's a system that was at least once sold by a company named CyberGenie .
It 's a landline phone , and it does connect to your desktop PC to transfer your phonebook , at least .
It may have further capabilities worth looking into .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I came across this once, but I haven't really researched far into it.
There's a system that was at least once sold by a company named CyberGenie.
It's a landline phone, and it does connect to your desktop PC to transfer your phonebook, at least.
It may have further capabilities worth looking into.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001430</id>
	<title>Home Zone?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1257423720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everybody here has a mobile phone with home zone function.</p><p>But of course, I have a better setup:</p><p>I have a little server, with a asterisk system, and a ISDN card. so i connected the ISDN-card to the landline, and asterisk to VoIP. which gives me a bi-directional gateway (Yes I secured it!), which i mostly use, to save money, by leaving the server running while away, and calling it over the internet via VoIP. letting me do local calls in all of the country for "free" (flatrate at home, WLAN in the hotel) while I'm far away, traveling. It also works in the other direction, if I happen to be online.</p><p>I also have a self-written answering machine script that acts like a butler, taking calls for me. Because the "conversation" is so short, it works. It can even greet known people with their names! And I can set it to away messages, right with all the other protocols in my instant messenger. It even works as a "phonewall", optionally only answering in: a) callers not in the blacklist, a) those, and non-anonymous callers, b) non-blacklisted callers in my phone book, c) non-blacklisted callers in a category of my phone book or c) nobody<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)<br>People in the blacklist get the same message that they would get, if the number wouldn't exist. So it is perfectly stealthy.<br>My phone does not even ring.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p><p>And I get nice logs of everything.<br>And a mail when I receive a call. (Or a fax, if that ever will happen ^^)</p><p>Aaaahhh... good times for a geek! ^^</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everybody here has a mobile phone with home zone function.But of course , I have a better setup : I have a little server , with a asterisk system , and a ISDN card .
so i connected the ISDN-card to the landline , and asterisk to VoIP .
which gives me a bi-directional gateway ( Yes I secured it !
) , which i mostly use , to save money , by leaving the server running while away , and calling it over the internet via VoIP .
letting me do local calls in all of the country for " free " ( flatrate at home , WLAN in the hotel ) while I 'm far away , traveling .
It also works in the other direction , if I happen to be online.I also have a self-written answering machine script that acts like a butler , taking calls for me .
Because the " conversation " is so short , it works .
It can even greet known people with their names !
And I can set it to away messages , right with all the other protocols in my instant messenger .
It even works as a " phonewall " , optionally only answering in : a ) callers not in the blacklist , a ) those , and non-anonymous callers , b ) non-blacklisted callers in my phone book , c ) non-blacklisted callers in a category of my phone book or c ) nobody : ) People in the blacklist get the same message that they would get , if the number would n't exist .
So it is perfectly stealthy.My phone does not even ring .
: DAnd I get nice logs of everything.And a mail when I receive a call .
( Or a fax , if that ever will happen ^ ^ ) Aaaahhh... good times for a geek !
^ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everybody here has a mobile phone with home zone function.But of course, I have a better setup:I have a little server, with a asterisk system, and a ISDN card.
so i connected the ISDN-card to the landline, and asterisk to VoIP.
which gives me a bi-directional gateway (Yes I secured it!
), which i mostly use, to save money, by leaving the server running while away, and calling it over the internet via VoIP.
letting me do local calls in all of the country for "free" (flatrate at home, WLAN in the hotel) while I'm far away, traveling.
It also works in the other direction, if I happen to be online.I also have a self-written answering machine script that acts like a butler, taking calls for me.
Because the "conversation" is so short, it works.
It can even greet known people with their names!
And I can set it to away messages, right with all the other protocols in my instant messenger.
It even works as a "phonewall", optionally only answering in: a) callers not in the blacklist, a) those, and non-anonymous callers, b) non-blacklisted callers in my phone book, c) non-blacklisted callers in a category of my phone book or c) nobody :)People in the blacklist get the same message that they would get, if the number wouldn't exist.
So it is perfectly stealthy.My phone does not even ring.
:DAnd I get nice logs of everything.And a mail when I receive a call.
(Or a fax, if that ever will happen ^^)Aaaahhh... good times for a geek!
^^</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30003314</id>
	<title>Home phone system that syncs to computer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257448320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you need something like this:<br>http://www.buy.com/prod/thomson-ge-dect-6-0-28128ee2-cell-fusion-cordless-phone-1-x-phone-line/q/loc/101/listingID/30432828/204212006.html?adid=17653<br>It's Outlook-compatible and can be used with bluetooth-enabled cell phones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you need something like this : http : //www.buy.com/prod/thomson-ge-dect-6-0-28128ee2-cell-fusion-cordless-phone-1-x-phone-line/q/loc/101/listingID/30432828/204212006.html ? adid = 17653It 's Outlook-compatible and can be used with bluetooth-enabled cell phones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you need something like this:http://www.buy.com/prod/thomson-ge-dect-6-0-28128ee2-cell-fusion-cordless-phone-1-x-phone-line/q/loc/101/listingID/30432828/204212006.html?adid=17653It's Outlook-compatible and can be used with bluetooth-enabled cell phones.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999798</id>
	<title>Re:Regular phones are so backwards...</title>
	<author>aphelion\_rock</author>
	<datestamp>1257415920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the case of the great NE blackout 2003 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast\_Blackout\_of\_2003" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast\_Blackout\_of\_2003</a> [wikipedia.org] or if the terorists get organised and start blowing up power stations then the humble POTS phone will be the only thing left working.



Sometimes the more basic the technology the more reliable it is</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the case of the great NE blackout 2003 http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast \ _Blackout \ _of \ _2003 [ wikipedia.org ] or if the terorists get organised and start blowing up power stations then the humble POTS phone will be the only thing left working .
Sometimes the more basic the technology the more reliable it is</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the case of the great NE blackout 2003 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast\_Blackout\_of\_2003 [wikipedia.org] or if the terorists get organised and start blowing up power stations then the humble POTS phone will be the only thing left working.
Sometimes the more basic the technology the more reliable it is</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999440</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30004850</id>
	<title>Anonymous Privacy Maven</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257517260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's called Skype!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's called Skype !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's called Skype!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999680</id>
	<title>trixbox &amp; Polycom IP Series phones</title>
	<author>Dragon\_Eater</author>
	<datestamp>1257415440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can run the server software ( Free ) on any older machine and the phones are nearly open source with the options they have.</p><p>The Phone can be expensive but any unit ( phone, cell, PC etc) that can run SIP based telephone calls will interface fine.</p><p>For example I have a HTC Dream with android and the SIPDroid app works very well.</p><p>Links:<br><a href="http://www.trixbox.org/" title="trixbox.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.trixbox.org/</a> [trixbox.org]</p><p><a href="http://www.polycom.com/" title="polycom.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.polycom.com/</a> [polycom.com]</p><p><a href="http://www.sipdroid.com/" title="sipdroid.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sipdroid.com/</a> [sipdroid.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can run the server software ( Free ) on any older machine and the phones are nearly open source with the options they have.The Phone can be expensive but any unit ( phone , cell , PC etc ) that can run SIP based telephone calls will interface fine.For example I have a HTC Dream with android and the SIPDroid app works very well.Links : http : //www.trixbox.org/ [ trixbox.org ] http : //www.polycom.com/ [ polycom.com ] http : //www.sipdroid.com/ [ sipdroid.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can run the server software ( Free ) on any older machine and the phones are nearly open source with the options they have.The Phone can be expensive but any unit ( phone, cell, PC etc) that can run SIP based telephone calls will interface fine.For example I have a HTC Dream with android and the SIPDroid app works very well.Links:http://www.trixbox.org/ [trixbox.org]http://www.polycom.com/ [polycom.com]http://www.sipdroid.com/ [sipdroid.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30004320</id>
	<title>Re:The overkill solution</title>
	<author>L4t3r4lu5</author>
	<datestamp>1257509580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sorry, but P(A &amp; B) = 0<br> <br>Where A = Linux Server, and B = Female company.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , but P ( A &amp; B ) = 0 Where A = Linux Server , and B = Female company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, but P(A &amp; B) = 0 Where A = Linux Server, and B = Female company.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999428</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30002684</id>
	<title>Re:Landline abandonment</title>
	<author>rdnetto</author>
	<datestamp>1257436200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it's a mobile, you should really be dialing 112, since that works *anywhere*.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's a mobile , you should really be dialing 112 , since that works * anywhere * .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's a mobile, you should really be dialing 112, since that works *anywhere*.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000018</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30004526</id>
	<title>Re:Cost</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257512940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, some of the Siemens Gigaset DECT phones run linux on the handset. Essentially all the VoIP/Analog gateway appliances run linux, just like most DSL modems/routers, most of them already have web server installed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , some of the Siemens Gigaset DECT phones run linux on the handset .
Essentially all the VoIP/Analog gateway appliances run linux , just like most DSL modems/routers , most of them already have web server installed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, some of the Siemens Gigaset DECT phones run linux on the handset.
Essentially all the VoIP/Analog gateway appliances run linux, just like most DSL modems/routers, most of them already have web server installed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999450</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000646</id>
	<title>Meridian 9617 could have some of that</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257419700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you could find some of the "Nortel Meridian 9617 USB 2-Line Telephone" phones you could do some of what you want...  just not cordless-ly...  Unfortunately it was too ahead of its time and Aastra killed it after buying the technology from Nortel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you could find some of the " Nortel Meridian 9617 USB 2-Line Telephone " phones you could do some of what you want... just not cordless-ly... Unfortunately it was too ahead of its time and Aastra killed it after buying the technology from Nortel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you could find some of the "Nortel Meridian 9617 USB 2-Line Telephone" phones you could do some of what you want...  just not cordless-ly...  Unfortunately it was too ahead of its time and Aastra killed it after buying the technology from Nortel.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30005088</id>
	<title>A related question...</title>
	<author>Myshkin</author>
	<datestamp>1257519060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why doesn't my horse drawn buggy come with a mp3 player?</p><p>Can I get a Betamax VCR that does HDMI?</p><p>Your landline phones aren't getting updated technology because they are themselves outdated technology.  They may not be entirely obsolete at this point, but don't expect to get technological advances into them on a regular basis.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why does n't my horse drawn buggy come with a mp3 player ? Can I get a Betamax VCR that does HDMI ? Your landline phones are n't getting updated technology because they are themselves outdated technology .
They may not be entirely obsolete at this point , but do n't expect to get technological advances into them on a regular basis .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why doesn't my horse drawn buggy come with a mp3 player?Can I get a Betamax VCR that does HDMI?Your landline phones aren't getting updated technology because they are themselves outdated technology.
They may not be entirely obsolete at this point, but don't expect to get technological advances into them on a regular basis.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001700</id>
	<title>Re:Regular phones are so backwards...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257425880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually in the US, phone companies pay a huge fine if their service goes down for any length of time. That's why the central office in each area has enough batter/backup generator reserve to keep the phones going for up to 6 days during a power outage.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually in the US , phone companies pay a huge fine if their service goes down for any length of time .
That 's why the central office in each area has enough batter/backup generator reserve to keep the phones going for up to 6 days during a power outage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually in the US, phone companies pay a huge fine if their service goes down for any length of time.
That's why the central office in each area has enough batter/backup generator reserve to keep the phones going for up to 6 days during a power outage.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999682</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30003970</id>
	<title>Re:Landline abandonment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257503160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Very good reminder cdrguru!</p><p>I would add that the cost is also not the same on mobile, especially for people calling you!</p><p>In France calling a mobile costs typically 0.25 euro/minute, while calling a land line costs typically 0.04 euro/minute.<br>The sad thing is that it's one person deciding to cut their land line, and another paying the outrageous cost of calling a mobile<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>DECT on a land-line is also much better for health regarding radiations. A wired land-line is even better for health!</p><p>The sound quality on land-lines are so much better than mobiles!</p><p>If you're going to have an Internet connection in your house, why not also have a land-line on it???</p><p>Now I understand that operators want to remove land-lines because they make so much more money on mobiles. In fact France Telecom even has a plan whrere they remove your land-line in exchange for free calls in the evening on your mobile. Then they make money on your friends' bills calling your mobile...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Very good reminder cdrguru ! I would add that the cost is also not the same on mobile , especially for people calling you ! In France calling a mobile costs typically 0.25 euro/minute , while calling a land line costs typically 0.04 euro/minute.The sad thing is that it 's one person deciding to cut their land line , and another paying the outrageous cost of calling a mobile ...DECT on a land-line is also much better for health regarding radiations .
A wired land-line is even better for health ! The sound quality on land-lines are so much better than mobiles ! If you 're going to have an Internet connection in your house , why not also have a land-line on it ? ?
? Now I understand that operators want to remove land-lines because they make so much more money on mobiles .
In fact France Telecom even has a plan whrere they remove your land-line in exchange for free calls in the evening on your mobile .
Then they make money on your friends ' bills calling your mobile.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very good reminder cdrguru!I would add that the cost is also not the same on mobile, especially for people calling you!In France calling a mobile costs typically 0.25 euro/minute, while calling a land line costs typically 0.04 euro/minute.The sad thing is that it's one person deciding to cut their land line, and another paying the outrageous cost of calling a mobile ...DECT on a land-line is also much better for health regarding radiations.
A wired land-line is even better for health!The sound quality on land-lines are so much better than mobiles!If you're going to have an Internet connection in your house, why not also have a land-line on it??
?Now I understand that operators want to remove land-lines because they make so much more money on mobiles.
In fact France Telecom even has a plan whrere they remove your land-line in exchange for free calls in the evening on your mobile.
Then they make money on your friends' bills calling your mobile...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000018</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30009318</id>
	<title>An Asterisk setup seems to be what you want</title>
	<author>BrianCarlstrom</author>
	<datestamp>1257500220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>What I would like is a phone system that I could sync to my computer so I could update the phone book over all the units (if not sync with Address Book or Outlook)</i> <br>
My trixbox Asterisk system at home does this halfway (http://carlstrom.com/trixbox/). For my Cisco phones, I generate an XML phone directory from my Emacs BBDB contacts database which is then served to the phones over HTTP. Unforunately my Hitachi Wi-Fi phones have to have the directory synced via USB, even though all other settings can be set via a web server. Certainly there other other options for Wi-Fi VoIP handsets that probably won't have this problem.<br>
<br>
<i>keep a log of caller IDs</i> <br>
Asterisk keeps a CDR (Call Details Record) database with that information<br>
<br>
<i>or even forward me new voicemail notifications.</i> <br>
I haven't bothered setting it up, but Asterisk systems can forward voice mail as email. I do have web access to the sound files, but largely just access via the phone handsets.<br>
<br>
<i>Does anyone know if such a system exists?</i> <br>
I believe that you can have what you want from an Asterisk based system, but the hardware isn't cheap. The computer to power it doesn't have to be anything special though, I use an old discarded 450MHz Dell box.<br>
<br>
I'll note that I am strange and use my Asterisk system with a POTS connection, just using VoIP inside the house. My wife insists on it for emergency power-outage 911 reasons</htmltext>
<tokenext>What I would like is a phone system that I could sync to my computer so I could update the phone book over all the units ( if not sync with Address Book or Outlook ) My trixbox Asterisk system at home does this halfway ( http : //carlstrom.com/trixbox/ ) .
For my Cisco phones , I generate an XML phone directory from my Emacs BBDB contacts database which is then served to the phones over HTTP .
Unforunately my Hitachi Wi-Fi phones have to have the directory synced via USB , even though all other settings can be set via a web server .
Certainly there other other options for Wi-Fi VoIP handsets that probably wo n't have this problem .
keep a log of caller IDs Asterisk keeps a CDR ( Call Details Record ) database with that information or even forward me new voicemail notifications .
I have n't bothered setting it up , but Asterisk systems can forward voice mail as email .
I do have web access to the sound files , but largely just access via the phone handsets .
Does anyone know if such a system exists ?
I believe that you can have what you want from an Asterisk based system , but the hardware is n't cheap .
The computer to power it does n't have to be anything special though , I use an old discarded 450MHz Dell box .
I 'll note that I am strange and use my Asterisk system with a POTS connection , just using VoIP inside the house .
My wife insists on it for emergency power-outage 911 reasons</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I would like is a phone system that I could sync to my computer so I could update the phone book over all the units (if not sync with Address Book or Outlook) 
My trixbox Asterisk system at home does this halfway (http://carlstrom.com/trixbox/).
For my Cisco phones, I generate an XML phone directory from my Emacs BBDB contacts database which is then served to the phones over HTTP.
Unforunately my Hitachi Wi-Fi phones have to have the directory synced via USB, even though all other settings can be set via a web server.
Certainly there other other options for Wi-Fi VoIP handsets that probably won't have this problem.
keep a log of caller IDs 
Asterisk keeps a CDR (Call Details Record) database with that information

or even forward me new voicemail notifications.
I haven't bothered setting it up, but Asterisk systems can forward voice mail as email.
I do have web access to the sound files, but largely just access via the phone handsets.
Does anyone know if such a system exists?
I believe that you can have what you want from an Asterisk based system, but the hardware isn't cheap.
The computer to power it doesn't have to be anything special though, I use an old discarded 450MHz Dell box.
I'll note that I am strange and use my Asterisk system with a POTS connection, just using VoIP inside the house.
My wife insists on it for emergency power-outage 911 reasons</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30013618</id>
	<title>Re:Not now, but 10 years ago</title>
	<author>blackjackshellac</author>
	<datestamp>1257598740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I threw this piece of crap out my front door (literally).  This was the final nail in the coffin for Micro$oft for me, the reason I switched to linux on the desktop, in 1999.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I threw this piece of crap out my front door ( literally ) .
This was the final nail in the coffin for Micro $ oft for me , the reason I switched to linux on the desktop , in 1999 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I threw this piece of crap out my front door (literally).
This was the final nail in the coffin for Micro$oft for me, the reason I switched to linux on the desktop, in 1999.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999456</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30003030</id>
	<title>Microsoft Cordless Phone System</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257442320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft\_Cordless\_Phone\_System</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft \ _Cordless \ _Phone \ _System</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft\_Cordless\_Phone\_System</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000906</id>
	<title>Re:A Chain of Problems, Asterisk is not the Answer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257420960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>(if not sync with Address Book or Outlook),</i><br>Please, dear Lord.  No.  This is another binary jail. But it looks like you want your home computer's Outlook client to be somehow involved.  Which, is another programming mountain to climb separate from the first feature.</p></div><p>actually, for the case of a lone Outlook instance it's relatively easy to interop with it using the provided DLLs in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.NET. I'm not just speculating, I've done exactly this.</p><p>on that note, even exchange isn't that hard to deal with. Granted, it's not as easy as "give me my data in xml", but it's not completely impossible to do it either.</p><p>also, I'm aware that by claiming anything other than microsoft murdered my dog I'm going to get modded down, so go ahead.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( if not sync with Address Book or Outlook ) ,Please , dear Lord .
No. This is another binary jail .
But it looks like you want your home computer 's Outlook client to be somehow involved .
Which , is another programming mountain to climb separate from the first feature.actually , for the case of a lone Outlook instance it 's relatively easy to interop with it using the provided DLLs in .NET .
I 'm not just speculating , I 've done exactly this.on that note , even exchange is n't that hard to deal with .
Granted , it 's not as easy as " give me my data in xml " , but it 's not completely impossible to do it either.also , I 'm aware that by claiming anything other than microsoft murdered my dog I 'm going to get modded down , so go ahead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> (if not sync with Address Book or Outlook),Please, dear Lord.
No.  This is another binary jail.
But it looks like you want your home computer's Outlook client to be somehow involved.
Which, is another programming mountain to climb separate from the first feature.actually, for the case of a lone Outlook instance it's relatively easy to interop with it using the provided DLLs in .NET.
I'm not just speculating, I've done exactly this.on that note, even exchange isn't that hard to deal with.
Granted, it's not as easy as "give me my data in xml", but it's not completely impossible to do it either.also, I'm aware that by claiming anything other than microsoft murdered my dog I'm going to get modded down, so go ahead.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000058</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000426</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>Ichijo</author>
	<datestamp>1257418680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a primitive form of VoIP.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a primitive form of VoIP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a primitive form of VoIP.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999404</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000526</id>
	<title>Re:The overkill solution</title>
	<author>anexkahn</author>
	<datestamp>1257419160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In case you don't have a Linux server (How Dare You) there is now a windows based asterisk:<br> <br>
<a href="http://www.asteriskwin32.com/" title="asteriskwin32.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.asteriskwin32.com/</a> [asteriskwin32.com] <br> <br>
Or you could of course run asterisk in a virtual machine. using something like virtualbox: <a href="http://www.virtualbox.org/" title="virtualbox.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.virtualbox.org/</a> [virtualbox.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>In case you do n't have a Linux server ( How Dare You ) there is now a windows based asterisk : http : //www.asteriskwin32.com/ [ asteriskwin32.com ] Or you could of course run asterisk in a virtual machine .
using something like virtualbox : http : //www.virtualbox.org/ [ virtualbox.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In case you don't have a Linux server (How Dare You) there is now a windows based asterisk: 
http://www.asteriskwin32.com/ [asteriskwin32.com]  
Or you could of course run asterisk in a virtual machine.
using something like virtualbox: http://www.virtualbox.org/ [virtualbox.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999428</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000180</id>
	<title>Re:Why are you so backwards?</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1257417540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When you use a landline phone, you don't need to limit the length of your calls, you don't need to check the time of day nor the day of the week, and you don't have to be afraid that your battery will stop working while you're talking to someone.</p><p>And don't assume that a cellphone is less expensive. Have you seen cellphone contracts in Canada? It's crazy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When you use a landline phone , you do n't need to limit the length of your calls , you do n't need to check the time of day nor the day of the week , and you do n't have to be afraid that your battery will stop working while you 're talking to someone.And do n't assume that a cellphone is less expensive .
Have you seen cellphone contracts in Canada ?
It 's crazy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you use a landline phone, you don't need to limit the length of your calls, you don't need to check the time of day nor the day of the week, and you don't have to be afraid that your battery will stop working while you're talking to someone.And don't assume that a cellphone is less expensive.
Have you seen cellphone contracts in Canada?
It's crazy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999488</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999660</id>
	<title>I remedied some of this with VoIP ....</title>
	<author>King\_TJ</author>
	<datestamp>1257415320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got rid of my regular land line, and went with "Phone Power", a cheap VoIP provider out of Calfornia.  (Only $14.95 per month if you're willing to sign a 2 year contract with them, and you get unlimited calls to anywhere in the USA for that price.)  I'm sure there are many other inexpensive choices as well.  (I was previously using "AT&amp;T Callvantage", but that one is going away so I had to switch services.  It cost more like $25 a month anyway.)</p><p>A nice side-effect of switching my service to VoIP is, I can centrally create a list of "speed dial" numbers on their web site, and all phones in my house use them.  (They're all dialed with the * and then a 2 digit number.)  Additionally, Phone Power does a "virtual 2nd. line" feature that could come in handy.  Basically, a second phone jack on the terminal adapter they ship you can be configured as the "virtual" number.  So when you're on a phone in the house that's running off the primary jack of the adapter, and a second call comes in, it will ring the phone(s) on the second jack and allow someone to answer it without interrupting your original conversation.  Alternately, you can take the call yourself on the primary line by clicking over, in the typical "call waiting" manner.  By the same token, even though phones on both jacks will present themselves as being the same phone number, you can make 2 simultaneous outgoing calls with both of them.</p><p>A caller ID log is also maintained on their web site for you, and you can even click on a call in the log to add it to a "block" list.  (Once blocked, future incoming calls from that number either get immediately routed to your voice mailbox, or they get an immediate busy signal<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... your choice.)</p><p>The voice mailbox feature can essentially be "disabled" if you still prefer using a traditional answering machine, by telling it to wait an "unlimited" amount of time before calls are transferred to it once your number starts ringing.  But if you do opt to use it, it's pretty powerful too.  You can have copies of your messages emailed to you as<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.WAV sound file attachments, for example.  And by setting up "advanced call routing", you can create a whole sequence of phone numbers that a call will ring before going to voicemail.  (This might prevent someone NEEDING to leave you voicemail in the first place, if you have, say, a cellphone ring simultaneously with your home number.)</p><p>I used to care if my land line phones had certain features, but now, I've realized VoIP renders most of it pointless duplication.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got rid of my regular land line , and went with " Phone Power " , a cheap VoIP provider out of Calfornia .
( Only $ 14.95 per month if you 're willing to sign a 2 year contract with them , and you get unlimited calls to anywhere in the USA for that price .
) I 'm sure there are many other inexpensive choices as well .
( I was previously using " AT&amp;T Callvantage " , but that one is going away so I had to switch services .
It cost more like $ 25 a month anyway .
) A nice side-effect of switching my service to VoIP is , I can centrally create a list of " speed dial " numbers on their web site , and all phones in my house use them .
( They 're all dialed with the * and then a 2 digit number .
) Additionally , Phone Power does a " virtual 2nd .
line " feature that could come in handy .
Basically , a second phone jack on the terminal adapter they ship you can be configured as the " virtual " number .
So when you 're on a phone in the house that 's running off the primary jack of the adapter , and a second call comes in , it will ring the phone ( s ) on the second jack and allow someone to answer it without interrupting your original conversation .
Alternately , you can take the call yourself on the primary line by clicking over , in the typical " call waiting " manner .
By the same token , even though phones on both jacks will present themselves as being the same phone number , you can make 2 simultaneous outgoing calls with both of them.A caller ID log is also maintained on their web site for you , and you can even click on a call in the log to add it to a " block " list .
( Once blocked , future incoming calls from that number either get immediately routed to your voice mailbox , or they get an immediate busy signal ... your choice .
) The voice mailbox feature can essentially be " disabled " if you still prefer using a traditional answering machine , by telling it to wait an " unlimited " amount of time before calls are transferred to it once your number starts ringing .
But if you do opt to use it , it 's pretty powerful too .
You can have copies of your messages emailed to you as .WAV sound file attachments , for example .
And by setting up " advanced call routing " , you can create a whole sequence of phone numbers that a call will ring before going to voicemail .
( This might prevent someone NEEDING to leave you voicemail in the first place , if you have , say , a cellphone ring simultaneously with your home number .
) I used to care if my land line phones had certain features , but now , I 've realized VoIP renders most of it pointless duplication .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got rid of my regular land line, and went with "Phone Power", a cheap VoIP provider out of Calfornia.
(Only $14.95 per month if you're willing to sign a 2 year contract with them, and you get unlimited calls to anywhere in the USA for that price.
)  I'm sure there are many other inexpensive choices as well.
(I was previously using "AT&amp;T Callvantage", but that one is going away so I had to switch services.
It cost more like $25 a month anyway.
)A nice side-effect of switching my service to VoIP is, I can centrally create a list of "speed dial" numbers on their web site, and all phones in my house use them.
(They're all dialed with the * and then a 2 digit number.
)  Additionally, Phone Power does a "virtual 2nd.
line" feature that could come in handy.
Basically, a second phone jack on the terminal adapter they ship you can be configured as the "virtual" number.
So when you're on a phone in the house that's running off the primary jack of the adapter, and a second call comes in, it will ring the phone(s) on the second jack and allow someone to answer it without interrupting your original conversation.
Alternately, you can take the call yourself on the primary line by clicking over, in the typical "call waiting" manner.
By the same token, even though phones on both jacks will present themselves as being the same phone number, you can make 2 simultaneous outgoing calls with both of them.A caller ID log is also maintained on their web site for you, and you can even click on a call in the log to add it to a "block" list.
(Once blocked, future incoming calls from that number either get immediately routed to your voice mailbox, or they get an immediate busy signal ... your choice.
)The voice mailbox feature can essentially be "disabled" if you still prefer using a traditional answering machine, by telling it to wait an "unlimited" amount of time before calls are transferred to it once your number starts ringing.
But if you do opt to use it, it's pretty powerful too.
You can have copies of your messages emailed to you as .WAV sound file attachments, for example.
And by setting up "advanced call routing", you can create a whole sequence of phone numbers that a call will ring before going to voicemail.
(This might prevent someone NEEDING to leave you voicemail in the first place, if you have, say, a cellphone ring simultaneously with your home number.
)I used to care if my land line phones had certain features, but now, I've realized VoIP renders most of it pointless duplication.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000628</id>
	<title>Phonebook?</title>
	<author>mirix</author>
	<datestamp>1257419580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My western electric model 500 supports a phonebook push just fine... it comes in the mail once a year.<br> <br>
I don't understand how you'd use the phone with the phonebook *on* it though? How would you pick up the handset?<br> <br> <br>now get off my lawn.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My western electric model 500 supports a phonebook push just fine... it comes in the mail once a year .
I do n't understand how you 'd use the phone with the phonebook * on * it though ?
How would you pick up the handset ?
now get off my lawn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My western electric model 500 supports a phonebook push just fine... it comes in the mail once a year.
I don't understand how you'd use the phone with the phonebook *on* it though?
How would you pick up the handset?
now get off my lawn.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30005110</id>
	<title>Re:Cost</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257519240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On that note... try looking at what Polycom (http://www.polycom.com/) offers. They are expensive, but they tend to offer more features than you would expect a typical phone to have. Admittedly, they are geared to large business with significant telephony needs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On that note... try looking at what Polycom ( http : //www.polycom.com/ ) offers .
They are expensive , but they tend to offer more features than you would expect a typical phone to have .
Admittedly , they are geared to large business with significant telephony needs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On that note... try looking at what Polycom (http://www.polycom.com/) offers.
They are expensive, but they tend to offer more features than you would expect a typical phone to have.
Admittedly, they are geared to large business with significant telephony needs.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999450</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30003086</id>
	<title>Fritz!Box</title>
	<author>Casandro</author>
	<datestamp>1257443760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well there's the Fritz!Box series of DSL routers with telephony functions. Towards the landline they support ISDN and that old quasi analog system used in some developing countries. It runs Linux and is fairly hackable. It also supports preety much all DECT GAP handsets even with a sampling rate of 16 kHz.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well there 's the Fritz ! Box series of DSL routers with telephony functions .
Towards the landline they support ISDN and that old quasi analog system used in some developing countries .
It runs Linux and is fairly hackable .
It also supports preety much all DECT GAP handsets even with a sampling rate of 16 kHz .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well there's the Fritz!Box series of DSL routers with telephony functions.
Towards the landline they support ISDN and that old quasi analog system used in some developing countries.
It runs Linux and is fairly hackable.
It also supports preety much all DECT GAP handsets even with a sampling rate of 16 kHz.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999958</id>
	<title>Microsoft Cordless Phone</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257416640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You might be able to find one of these on ebay...</p><p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyevPhRoboE</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You might be able to find one of these on ebay...http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = vyevPhRoboE</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You might be able to find one of these on ebay...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyevPhRoboE</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001288</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1257422880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's what you get your high-speed Internet over. ^^</p><p>(TV cables included!)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's what you get your high-speed Internet over .
^ ^ ( TV cables included !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's what you get your high-speed Internet over.
^^(TV cables included!
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999404</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999944</id>
	<title>Yay</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257416580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Asterisk would be your best bet - especially now with the GUI that can be used to set this up.  One would also need some sort of SIP trunk - unless you buy a nice expensive PCI card for your  asterisk box.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Asterisk would be your best bet - especially now with the GUI that can be used to set this up .
One would also need some sort of SIP trunk - unless you buy a nice expensive PCI card for your asterisk box .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Asterisk would be your best bet - especially now with the GUI that can be used to set this up.
One would also need some sort of SIP trunk - unless you buy a nice expensive PCI card for your  asterisk box.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000132</id>
	<title>The Siemens SL785 does (some) of what you want</title>
	<author>hirschma</author>
	<datestamp>1257417360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>See:</p><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001V5J67Q/ref=ox\_ya\_oh\_product" title="amazon.com">SL785 on Amazon</a> [amazon.com]. It is the only cordless phone on the market that has some semi-smartphone features.</p><p>You can push<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.vcf cards to the phone via Bluetooth (I exported from Google, and pushed my entire contact list in one go). Alternately, you can use the optional software to sync a handset with Outlook via USB or Bluetooth.</p><p>Once one handset is updated, you can push the entire phonebook to any other handset.</p><p>The phones themselves are very pretty and well made, and work great as phones. They can also display photos, and you can use your own custom ringtones. The handsets can (or claim to) use Bluetooth headsets, too, but I've yet to have one work well (something off with the bluetooth radio in the handsets).</p><p>Very, very pricey compared to other phones, however.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>See : SL785 on Amazon [ amazon.com ] .
It is the only cordless phone on the market that has some semi-smartphone features.You can push .vcf cards to the phone via Bluetooth ( I exported from Google , and pushed my entire contact list in one go ) .
Alternately , you can use the optional software to sync a handset with Outlook via USB or Bluetooth.Once one handset is updated , you can push the entire phonebook to any other handset.The phones themselves are very pretty and well made , and work great as phones .
They can also display photos , and you can use your own custom ringtones .
The handsets can ( or claim to ) use Bluetooth headsets , too , but I 've yet to have one work well ( something off with the bluetooth radio in the handsets ) .Very , very pricey compared to other phones , however .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See:SL785 on Amazon [amazon.com].
It is the only cordless phone on the market that has some semi-smartphone features.You can push .vcf cards to the phone via Bluetooth (I exported from Google, and pushed my entire contact list in one go).
Alternately, you can use the optional software to sync a handset with Outlook via USB or Bluetooth.Once one handset is updated, you can push the entire phonebook to any other handset.The phones themselves are very pretty and well made, and work great as phones.
They can also display photos, and you can use your own custom ringtones.
The handsets can (or claim to) use Bluetooth headsets, too, but I've yet to have one work well (something off with the bluetooth radio in the handsets).Very, very pricey compared to other phones, however.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999416</id>
	<title>iPhone</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257414360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The iPhone can do all you asks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPhone can do all you asks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPhone can do all you asks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999404</id>
	<title>Huh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257414300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's a "landline"?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's a " landline " ?
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's a "landline"?
:-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30005460</id>
	<title>ADSI but little documentation</title>
	<author>obtuse</author>
	<datestamp>1257521700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ADSI is Analog Display Services Interface, an interface standard for extending the interface on analog phones. So there are phones that support a standard interface as mentioned in the first point above, they're just hard to find. With an ADSI phone and an Asterisk server, you oould just conceivably do this by bringing in your landline to Asterisk and then back out to your analog sets with whatever additional info you chose. Manufacturers don't really talk about whether their phones are ADSI compliant, and there's very little documentation on ADSI. I personally gave up on this project because of the difficulty of finding a cheap ADSI phone, and the cost of going analog-VoIP-analog.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ADSI is Analog Display Services Interface , an interface standard for extending the interface on analog phones .
So there are phones that support a standard interface as mentioned in the first point above , they 're just hard to find .
With an ADSI phone and an Asterisk server , you oould just conceivably do this by bringing in your landline to Asterisk and then back out to your analog sets with whatever additional info you chose .
Manufacturers do n't really talk about whether their phones are ADSI compliant , and there 's very little documentation on ADSI .
I personally gave up on this project because of the difficulty of finding a cheap ADSI phone , and the cost of going analog-VoIP-analog .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ADSI is Analog Display Services Interface, an interface standard for extending the interface on analog phones.
So there are phones that support a standard interface as mentioned in the first point above, they're just hard to find.
With an ADSI phone and an Asterisk server, you oould just conceivably do this by bringing in your landline to Asterisk and then back out to your analog sets with whatever additional info you chose.
Manufacturers don't really talk about whether their phones are ADSI compliant, and there's very little documentation on ADSI.
I personally gave up on this project because of the difficulty of finding a cheap ADSI phone, and the cost of going analog-VoIP-analog.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000058</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30007742</id>
	<title>Re:Why are you so backwards?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257536160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Page plus cellular - $40/mo for unlimited calls<br>Rebtel (probably a million other services, too) - calling to canada for 1.5 cents/minute = $15<br>------<br>$55<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/mo for all your mobile phoning and all your calls to canada.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Page plus cellular - $ 40/mo for unlimited callsRebtel ( probably a million other services , too ) - calling to canada for 1.5 cents/minute = $ 15------ $ 55 /mo for all your mobile phoning and all your calls to canada .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Page plus cellular - $40/mo for unlimited callsRebtel (probably a million other services, too) - calling to canada for 1.5 cents/minute = $15------$55 /mo for all your mobile phoning and all your calls to canada.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999852</id>
	<title>My Panasonic Phone Does This Already</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257416160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a panasonic cordless 4 handset model that will copy phonebook entries from one handset to another - it's a function that is buried in the "Phonebook" options menu on the handset.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a panasonic cordless 4 handset model that will copy phonebook entries from one handset to another - it 's a function that is buried in the " Phonebook " options menu on the handset .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a panasonic cordless 4 handset model that will copy phonebook entries from one handset to another - it's a function that is buried in the "Phonebook" options menu on the handset.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000386</id>
	<title>Re:Why are you so backwards?</title>
	<author>b0bby</author>
	<datestamp>1257418500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People with kids who are old enough to be home alone for a while, but not old enough to have their own mobile phone, still need landlines. That's in addition to all the other valid reasons people are listing here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People with kids who are old enough to be home alone for a while , but not old enough to have their own mobile phone , still need landlines .
That 's in addition to all the other valid reasons people are listing here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People with kids who are old enough to be home alone for a while, but not old enough to have their own mobile phone, still need landlines.
That's in addition to all the other valid reasons people are listing here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999488</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999482</id>
	<title>Re:The overkill solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257414600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But this is Slashdot, so there is, in fact, no wife, and the profit never ends!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But this is Slashdot , so there is , in fact , no wife , and the profit never ends ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But this is Slashdot, so there is, in fact, no wife, and the profit never ends!!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999428</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000248</id>
	<title>Vonage</title>
	<author>Orion Blastar</author>
	<datestamp>1257417840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Vonage keeps track of all numbers you dialed or called you, along with voicemail you can dial into, access via email, or access via their web interface.</p><p>I don't know about updating phone books for cordless phones, but since I switched to Vonage I have better control over my voicemail and list of phone numbers via the web interface and it emails every voice mail entry to my address along with a speech to text of the message.</p><p>Vonage uses a CAT5 Ethernet connector and then any POTS phone. As long as you have the Internet with an Ethernet port (Like a Wireless hub with Ethernet ports in it) you can use the Vonage box. Plus it has free Long Distance to the USA and 60+ foreign nations. My wife and brother-in-law use it to call family in Thailand for free. About $33 a month after taxes.</p><p>The other thing is Google Voice but that is still in beta testing.</p><p>The thing is cordless POTS phones never caught up with cell phones yet, but that is a good business to get into and develop smart POTS phones that sync up phone lists, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Vonage keeps track of all numbers you dialed or called you , along with voicemail you can dial into , access via email , or access via their web interface.I do n't know about updating phone books for cordless phones , but since I switched to Vonage I have better control over my voicemail and list of phone numbers via the web interface and it emails every voice mail entry to my address along with a speech to text of the message.Vonage uses a CAT5 Ethernet connector and then any POTS phone .
As long as you have the Internet with an Ethernet port ( Like a Wireless hub with Ethernet ports in it ) you can use the Vonage box .
Plus it has free Long Distance to the USA and 60 + foreign nations .
My wife and brother-in-law use it to call family in Thailand for free .
About $ 33 a month after taxes.The other thing is Google Voice but that is still in beta testing.The thing is cordless POTS phones never caught up with cell phones yet , but that is a good business to get into and develop smart POTS phones that sync up phone lists , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vonage keeps track of all numbers you dialed or called you, along with voicemail you can dial into, access via email, or access via their web interface.I don't know about updating phone books for cordless phones, but since I switched to Vonage I have better control over my voicemail and list of phone numbers via the web interface and it emails every voice mail entry to my address along with a speech to text of the message.Vonage uses a CAT5 Ethernet connector and then any POTS phone.
As long as you have the Internet with an Ethernet port (Like a Wireless hub with Ethernet ports in it) you can use the Vonage box.
Plus it has free Long Distance to the USA and 60+ foreign nations.
My wife and brother-in-law use it to call family in Thailand for free.
About $33 a month after taxes.The other thing is Google Voice but that is still in beta testing.The thing is cordless POTS phones never caught up with cell phones yet, but that is a good business to get into and develop smart POTS phones that sync up phone lists, etc.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30002268</id>
	<title>Cordless</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257431580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Having a line line is great, especially with more people in the house.<br>As for the virtual phone book, most cordless phones I've seen recently (ie the past five years) have included a feature to push all contacts to other phones on the same line. Maybe it's time to upgrade the phone rather than add a computer system to the works?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having a line line is great , especially with more people in the house.As for the virtual phone book , most cordless phones I 've seen recently ( ie the past five years ) have included a feature to push all contacts to other phones on the same line .
Maybe it 's time to upgrade the phone rather than add a computer system to the works ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having a line line is great, especially with more people in the house.As for the virtual phone book, most cordless phones I've seen recently (ie the past five years) have included a feature to push all contacts to other phones on the same line.
Maybe it's time to upgrade the phone rather than add a computer system to the works?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999876</id>
	<title>Google Voice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257416340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just keep your contacts in your Google account and use Google Voice.  Works with SIP (Gizmo5), POTS, and cell phones.  Additionally it delivers SMS and voice mail messages (transcribed) into your email so you no longer have to deal with additional places to check messages.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just keep your contacts in your Google account and use Google Voice .
Works with SIP ( Gizmo5 ) , POTS , and cell phones .
Additionally it delivers SMS and voice mail messages ( transcribed ) into your email so you no longer have to deal with additional places to check messages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just keep your contacts in your Google account and use Google Voice.
Works with SIP (Gizmo5), POTS, and cell phones.
Additionally it delivers SMS and voice mail messages (transcribed) into your email so you no longer have to deal with additional places to check messages.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999714</id>
	<title>Re:Not For Consumers</title>
	<author>ubrgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1257415560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>True, not as a standalone component. But as part of some sort of centralized, combined home system it makes sense. Voice dialing from anywhere in the room with the call moving with you from room to room means being able to use both hands while talking (without a stupid Borg bluetooth headpiece). Combine it with skype and TV and you've got video chat. Combine it further with a camera and you have a baby monitor that you can check on with PiP on the TV (Jesus. Would mean someone would actually use PiP). I can think of all kinds of applications, but like you said, a standalone advancement of landline-like phone technology doesn't make sense. That said, there must be enough of a market for non-cellphone home-phone usage for Verizon, Comcast, etc. to put effort into their VoIP product (I know, it's part of the marketing strategy of getting your floor wax and dessert topping from one location, but it's still an offering that plenty of folks take.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>True , not as a standalone component .
But as part of some sort of centralized , combined home system it makes sense .
Voice dialing from anywhere in the room with the call moving with you from room to room means being able to use both hands while talking ( without a stupid Borg bluetooth headpiece ) .
Combine it with skype and TV and you 've got video chat .
Combine it further with a camera and you have a baby monitor that you can check on with PiP on the TV ( Jesus .
Would mean someone would actually use PiP ) .
I can think of all kinds of applications , but like you said , a standalone advancement of landline-like phone technology does n't make sense .
That said , there must be enough of a market for non-cellphone home-phone usage for Verizon , Comcast , etc .
to put effort into their VoIP product ( I know , it 's part of the marketing strategy of getting your floor wax and dessert topping from one location , but it 's still an offering that plenty of folks take .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True, not as a standalone component.
But as part of some sort of centralized, combined home system it makes sense.
Voice dialing from anywhere in the room with the call moving with you from room to room means being able to use both hands while talking (without a stupid Borg bluetooth headpiece).
Combine it with skype and TV and you've got video chat.
Combine it further with a camera and you have a baby monitor that you can check on with PiP on the TV (Jesus.
Would mean someone would actually use PiP).
I can think of all kinds of applications, but like you said, a standalone advancement of landline-like phone technology doesn't make sense.
That said, there must be enough of a market for non-cellphone home-phone usage for Verizon, Comcast, etc.
to put effort into their VoIP product (I know, it's part of the marketing strategy of getting your floor wax and dessert topping from one location, but it's still an offering that plenty of folks take.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999494</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999872</id>
	<title>Unidean CLX475 or CLX485</title>
	<author>tradjik</author>
	<datestamp>1257416280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I own a set of Uniden CLX485s.  Basic base station with expandable handsets.  I have the 485 which includes color screens.

They come with a USB cable and a program that will pull contacts from Outlook with a little configuration (contacts with many numbers require mapping to home/office/mobile).  Once imported you can set personal ringers and pictures for each one up to the storage limits.

My only issue was the battery died and I never got around to ordering new batteries, then a woot deal came along and I got newer Uniden phones (that lack Outlook sync)

So they are out there, but I don't know how much support they still get:<br>

<a href="http://www.uniden.com/products/productdetail.cfm?product=CLX485" title="uniden.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.uniden.com/products/productdetail.cfm?product=CLX485</a> [uniden.com]
<br>
<a href="http://www.uniden.com/products/productdetail.cfm?product=CLX475-3" title="uniden.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.uniden.com/products/productdetail.cfm?product=CLX475-3</a> [uniden.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I own a set of Uniden CLX485s .
Basic base station with expandable handsets .
I have the 485 which includes color screens .
They come with a USB cable and a program that will pull contacts from Outlook with a little configuration ( contacts with many numbers require mapping to home/office/mobile ) .
Once imported you can set personal ringers and pictures for each one up to the storage limits .
My only issue was the battery died and I never got around to ordering new batteries , then a woot deal came along and I got newer Uniden phones ( that lack Outlook sync ) So they are out there , but I do n't know how much support they still get : http : //www.uniden.com/products/productdetail.cfm ? product = CLX485 [ uniden.com ] http : //www.uniden.com/products/productdetail.cfm ? product = CLX475-3 [ uniden.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I own a set of Uniden CLX485s.
Basic base station with expandable handsets.
I have the 485 which includes color screens.
They come with a USB cable and a program that will pull contacts from Outlook with a little configuration (contacts with many numbers require mapping to home/office/mobile).
Once imported you can set personal ringers and pictures for each one up to the storage limits.
My only issue was the battery died and I never got around to ordering new batteries, then a woot deal came along and I got newer Uniden phones (that lack Outlook sync)

So they are out there, but I don't know how much support they still get:

http://www.uniden.com/products/productdetail.cfm?product=CLX485 [uniden.com]

http://www.uniden.com/products/productdetail.cfm?product=CLX475-3 [uniden.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001978</id>
	<title>Siemens Gigaset</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257428340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Siemens Gigaset handsets have the functionality to sync with Outlook. I'm not sure if it's automatic or manual, but it might be something to look into. The more advanced sets support both traditional and VoIP telephony, aswell as having numerous handsets making numerous calls over.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Siemens Gigaset handsets have the functionality to sync with Outlook .
I 'm not sure if it 's automatic or manual , but it might be something to look into .
The more advanced sets support both traditional and VoIP telephony , aswell as having numerous handsets making numerous calls over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Siemens Gigaset handsets have the functionality to sync with Outlook.
I'm not sure if it's automatic or manual, but it might be something to look into.
The more advanced sets support both traditional and VoIP telephony, aswell as having numerous handsets making numerous calls over.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999816</id>
	<title>Re:The overkill solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257416040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You left out a few parts of the overkill solution:</p><p>5. Excellent O'Reilly book on Asterisk<br>6. RSS feed for NerdVittles / PBX-in-a-Flash<br>7. Copy of VMWare Fusion because hey, why bog down the Linux server when you have a fast desktop?<br>8. Subscription to TWO different SIP providers because you want to compare call quality<br>9. iPhone to use until you get around to reading that Asterisk book<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>hypothetically, I mean. I'd imagine.  Pure conjecture, you understand.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You left out a few parts of the overkill solution : 5 .
Excellent O'Reilly book on Asterisk6 .
RSS feed for NerdVittles / PBX-in-a-Flash7 .
Copy of VMWare Fusion because hey , why bog down the Linux server when you have a fast desktop ? 8 .
Subscription to TWO different SIP providers because you want to compare call quality9 .
iPhone to use until you get around to reading that Asterisk book ...hypothetically , I mean .
I 'd imagine .
Pure conjecture , you understand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You left out a few parts of the overkill solution:5.
Excellent O'Reilly book on Asterisk6.
RSS feed for NerdVittles / PBX-in-a-Flash7.
Copy of VMWare Fusion because hey, why bog down the Linux server when you have a fast desktop?8.
Subscription to TWO different SIP providers because you want to compare call quality9.
iPhone to use until you get around to reading that Asterisk book ...hypothetically, I mean.
I'd imagine.
Pure conjecture, you understand.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999428</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30003122</id>
	<title>Re:Cost</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257444420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Having purchased the brand about a year ago with only 2 handsets (base counts as 1), I can tell you it cost me like $30 to get 1 more unit.<br><a href="http://www.radioshack.com/search/index.jsp?s=D-StorePrice-RSK&amp;x=15&amp;y=9&amp;sr=1&amp;kw=panasonic+base&amp;kwCatId=&amp;y=6&amp;x=9&amp;searchSort=TRUE&amp;origkw=panasonic+base&amp;retainProdsInSession=1&amp;pg=1&amp;searchSort=TRUE&amp;retainProdsInSession=1" title="radioshack.com" rel="nofollow"> They're not as cheap as you think.</a> [radioshack.com]</p><p>This is sorted inversely, and ignoring the crazy $200 Panasonic model, a 4-tupler costs $120 to $140 USD. Our unit cost around. I think I paid about $100 for the duplex originally, and it has come down in price. If I judge right by another coment someone made, they probably have self-propagating address books now if you pay for the new models.</p><p>Maybe it is the brand that sucks...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having purchased the brand about a year ago with only 2 handsets ( base counts as 1 ) , I can tell you it cost me like $ 30 to get 1 more unit .
They 're not as cheap as you think .
[ radioshack.com ] This is sorted inversely , and ignoring the crazy $ 200 Panasonic model , a 4-tupler costs $ 120 to $ 140 USD .
Our unit cost around .
I think I paid about $ 100 for the duplex originally , and it has come down in price .
If I judge right by another coment someone made , they probably have self-propagating address books now if you pay for the new models.Maybe it is the brand that sucks... ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having purchased the brand about a year ago with only 2 handsets (base counts as 1), I can tell you it cost me like $30 to get 1 more unit.
They're not as cheap as you think.
[radioshack.com]This is sorted inversely, and ignoring the crazy $200 Panasonic model, a 4-tupler costs $120 to $140 USD.
Our unit cost around.
I think I paid about $100 for the duplex originally, and it has come down in price.
If I judge right by another coment someone made, they probably have self-propagating address books now if you pay for the new models.Maybe it is the brand that sucks... ;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999450</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30003146</id>
	<title>Check out Casabi</title>
	<author>scsurfer</author>
	<datestamp>1257444720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Check out www.casabi.com. They offer a home phone system with most of the features the original author was looking for.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Check out www.casabi.com .
They offer a home phone system with most of the features the original author was looking for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check out www.casabi.com.
They offer a home phone system with most of the features the original author was looking for.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30002456</id>
	<title>Re:Landline abandonment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257433440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cancel your landline, but leave the phone plugged in.  911 still works.</p><p>[captcha: "worked"]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cancel your landline , but leave the phone plugged in .
911 still works .
[ captcha : " worked " ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cancel your landline, but leave the phone plugged in.
911 still works.
[captcha: "worked"]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000018</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001790</id>
	<title>Panasonic has one</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257426660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Panasonic <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-KX-TG5776S-GigaRange-Expandable-Cordless/dp/B000F8L510" title="amazon.com" rel="nofollow">KX-TG5776S</a> [amazon.com] allow you to upload an addressbook as a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.csv file from your PC using a USB cable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Panasonic KX-TG5776S [ amazon.com ] allow you to upload an addressbook as a .csv file from your PC using a USB cable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Panasonic KX-TG5776S [amazon.com] allow you to upload an addressbook as a .csv file from your PC using a USB cable.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001054</id>
	<title>Wait a sec</title>
	<author>PHP Wolf</author>
	<datestamp>1257421680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Home phone system that syncs to computer? That's easy!

Basically every Windows system has "Windows Genuine Advantage", right?

 Oh, wait, that's a PHONE HOME system. Never mind.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Home phone system that syncs to computer ?
That 's easy !
Basically every Windows system has " Windows Genuine Advantage " , right ?
Oh , wait , that 's a PHONE HOME system .
Never mind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Home phone system that syncs to computer?
That's easy!
Basically every Windows system has "Windows Genuine Advantage", right?
Oh, wait, that's a PHONE HOME system.
Never mind.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999732</id>
	<title>Re:Why are you so backwards?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257415680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because my cell phone doesn't work when:</p><p>1) I'm in my house. (AT&amp;T, Verizon, or Sprint... I haven't tested anyone else.)<br>2) The battery runs out.</p><p>Also, my land-line is cheaper than most cell-phone plans, and the phone is more comfortable to use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because my cell phone does n't work when : 1 ) I 'm in my house .
( AT&amp;T , Verizon , or Sprint... I have n't tested anyone else .
) 2 ) The battery runs out.Also , my land-line is cheaper than most cell-phone plans , and the phone is more comfortable to use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because my cell phone doesn't work when:1) I'm in my house.
(AT&amp;T, Verizon, or Sprint... I haven't tested anyone else.
)2) The battery runs out.Also, my land-line is cheaper than most cell-phone plans, and the phone is more comfortable to use.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999488</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000128</id>
	<title>Easy..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257417300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get a Cybergenie.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get a Cybergenie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get a Cybergenie.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000344</id>
	<title>Re:The overkill solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257418320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>4) Profit until the system breaks and the wife wrings your neck because she can't call to make her beauty salon appointment!</p></div></blockquote><p>I'm glad you injected the dose of realism in your comment. My previous IT dept switched the phone system to Asterisk.. it was a nightmare for everyone involved.</p><p>Suggestion for IT people: you are good at computers, not telecommunications. Let the telephone company do their job, let your company pay them, and most importantly let them worry about fixing things when they go wrong.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>4 ) Profit until the system breaks and the wife wrings your neck because she ca n't call to make her beauty salon appointment ! I 'm glad you injected the dose of realism in your comment .
My previous IT dept switched the phone system to Asterisk.. it was a nightmare for everyone involved.Suggestion for IT people : you are good at computers , not telecommunications .
Let the telephone company do their job , let your company pay them , and most importantly let them worry about fixing things when they go wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>4) Profit until the system breaks and the wife wrings your neck because she can't call to make her beauty salon appointment!I'm glad you injected the dose of realism in your comment.
My previous IT dept switched the phone system to Asterisk.. it was a nightmare for everyone involved.Suggestion for IT people: you are good at computers, not telecommunications.
Let the telephone company do their job, let your company pay them, and most importantly let them worry about fixing things when they go wrong.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999428</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999440</id>
	<title>Regular phones are so backwards...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257414480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... they work *all* the time.<br>Personally, I would never replace my POTS phone with anything "high tech".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... they work * all * the time.Personally , I would never replace my POTS phone with anything " high tech " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... they work *all* the time.Personally, I would never replace my POTS phone with anything "high tech".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999756</id>
	<title>Re:Regular phones are so backwards...</title>
	<author>flyboyfred</author>
	<datestamp>1257415740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A few years ago, we had a major storm that took our power out for four days.  We had (and still have) one plain old corded phone, so we never lost phone service.  Most people we tried to call, though, never answered because their cordless phones didn't have power.  I think it's a good idea to have a corded phone around for such emergencies.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A few years ago , we had a major storm that took our power out for four days .
We had ( and still have ) one plain old corded phone , so we never lost phone service .
Most people we tried to call , though , never answered because their cordless phones did n't have power .
I think it 's a good idea to have a corded phone around for such emergencies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A few years ago, we had a major storm that took our power out for four days.
We had (and still have) one plain old corded phone, so we never lost phone service.
Most people we tried to call, though, never answered because their cordless phones didn't have power.
I think it's a good idea to have a corded phone around for such emergencies.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999440</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000262</id>
	<title>Two in a row.</title>
	<author>flahwho</author>
	<datestamp>1257417900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>After posting i went window shopping (with firefox/ubuntu) for voip/skype type phones.  Seems there are many phones  out there that would have features similar to what you are looking for, with the exception being it isn't a land-line phone, it's a VOIP phone.  <br>
But they do:<br>
Sync to your pc for VM, Contacts, logs, etc.<br>
many are expadable to 4-8 handsets
<br>http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;q=skype+handset&amp;cid=6368542560501381677&amp;sa=title#p<br>
if you're worried about power, get a UPS.
if you're worried about 911, it's no different than mobile 911 really.
<br> <br>
If you're worried about living in your moms basement, well...</htmltext>
<tokenext>After posting i went window shopping ( with firefox/ubuntu ) for voip/skype type phones .
Seems there are many phones out there that would have features similar to what you are looking for , with the exception being it is n't a land-line phone , it 's a VOIP phone .
But they do : Sync to your pc for VM , Contacts , logs , etc .
many are expadable to 4-8 handsets http : //www.google.com/products/catalog ? hl = en&amp;safe = off&amp;q = skype + handset&amp;cid = 6368542560501381677&amp;sa = title # p if you 're worried about power , get a UPS .
if you 're worried about 911 , it 's no different than mobile 911 really .
If you 're worried about living in your moms basement , well.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After posting i went window shopping (with firefox/ubuntu) for voip/skype type phones.
Seems there are many phones  out there that would have features similar to what you are looking for, with the exception being it isn't a land-line phone, it's a VOIP phone.
But they do:
Sync to your pc for VM, Contacts, logs, etc.
many are expadable to 4-8 handsets
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;q=skype+handset&amp;cid=6368542560501381677&amp;sa=title#p
if you're worried about power, get a UPS.
if you're worried about 911, it's no different than mobile 911 really.
If you're worried about living in your moms basement, well...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001178</id>
	<title>It's Been Done.</title>
	<author>jolieodell</author>
	<datestamp>1257422220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's been done, at least to a certain extent. Buzzeromatic.

From a post I wrote about them on ReadWriteWeb: <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/readwritestart/2009/09/filter-your-front-door-buzzero.php" title="readwriteweb.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.readwriteweb.com/readwritestart/2009/09/filter-your-front-door-buzzero.php</a> [readwriteweb.com]

Apartment-dwellers, rejoice. Seattle-based startup Buzzeromatic is letting you take control of your own front door in a way that's smart and flexible.

The premise is simple: Using Twilio's VoIP API, Buzzeromatic allows subscribers to grant access to visitors, allow delivery folks to leave voice messages,and create passwords for frequent guests, all from a web interface with SMS commands for when users are on the go. And yes, there's an app for that: The team told us their fully functional iPhone application is in the hopper.

Co-founder Andres Krogh told us that he and a friend bootstrapped their startup. "The only reason we're able to pull it off is because of the explosion of commodity VoIP APIs like Twilio lately that make it somewhat cost effective."

Users can customize their building buzzers' behavior from the web interface at any time. Krogh explained, "You can set up passwords for folks to let themselves in with, or have it call a bunch of numbers until it finds you (similar to Google Voice), or both. You can also let people leave voicemails at the door, if all else fails."

They feel the password function will be particularly useful for those who have party guests or others, such as family members or a cleaning service, who need to be granted regular access to a user's apartment.

Access can also be narrowed to a particular time of day; for example, your maid's password would only work during the day, but your pizza delivery guy's password could grant him access any time between noon and midnight.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's been done , at least to a certain extent .
Buzzeromatic . From a post I wrote about them on ReadWriteWeb : http : //www.readwriteweb.com/readwritestart/2009/09/filter-your-front-door-buzzero.php [ readwriteweb.com ] Apartment-dwellers , rejoice .
Seattle-based startup Buzzeromatic is letting you take control of your own front door in a way that 's smart and flexible .
The premise is simple : Using Twilio 's VoIP API , Buzzeromatic allows subscribers to grant access to visitors , allow delivery folks to leave voice messages,and create passwords for frequent guests , all from a web interface with SMS commands for when users are on the go .
And yes , there 's an app for that : The team told us their fully functional iPhone application is in the hopper .
Co-founder Andres Krogh told us that he and a friend bootstrapped their startup .
" The only reason we 're able to pull it off is because of the explosion of commodity VoIP APIs like Twilio lately that make it somewhat cost effective .
" Users can customize their building buzzers ' behavior from the web interface at any time .
Krogh explained , " You can set up passwords for folks to let themselves in with , or have it call a bunch of numbers until it finds you ( similar to Google Voice ) , or both .
You can also let people leave voicemails at the door , if all else fails .
" They feel the password function will be particularly useful for those who have party guests or others , such as family members or a cleaning service , who need to be granted regular access to a user 's apartment .
Access can also be narrowed to a particular time of day ; for example , your maid 's password would only work during the day , but your pizza delivery guy 's password could grant him access any time between noon and midnight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's been done, at least to a certain extent.
Buzzeromatic.

From a post I wrote about them on ReadWriteWeb: http://www.readwriteweb.com/readwritestart/2009/09/filter-your-front-door-buzzero.php [readwriteweb.com]

Apartment-dwellers, rejoice.
Seattle-based startup Buzzeromatic is letting you take control of your own front door in a way that's smart and flexible.
The premise is simple: Using Twilio's VoIP API, Buzzeromatic allows subscribers to grant access to visitors, allow delivery folks to leave voice messages,and create passwords for frequent guests, all from a web interface with SMS commands for when users are on the go.
And yes, there's an app for that: The team told us their fully functional iPhone application is in the hopper.
Co-founder Andres Krogh told us that he and a friend bootstrapped their startup.
"The only reason we're able to pull it off is because of the explosion of commodity VoIP APIs like Twilio lately that make it somewhat cost effective.
"

Users can customize their building buzzers' behavior from the web interface at any time.
Krogh explained, "You can set up passwords for folks to let themselves in with, or have it call a bunch of numbers until it finds you (similar to Google Voice), or both.
You can also let people leave voicemails at the door, if all else fails.
"

They feel the password function will be particularly useful for those who have party guests or others, such as family members or a cleaning service, who need to be granted regular access to a user's apartment.
Access can also be narrowed to a particular time of day; for example, your maid's password would only work during the day, but your pizza delivery guy's password could grant him access any time between noon and midnight.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999464</id>
	<title>CLX475</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257414540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a Uniden CLX475<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... it does pretty much everything you ask<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>http://www.uniden.com/products/productdetail.cfm?product=CLX475-3</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Uniden CLX475 ... it does pretty much everything you ask ...http : //www.uniden.com/products/productdetail.cfm ? product = CLX475-3</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Uniden CLX475 ... it does pretty much everything you ask ...http://www.uniden.com/products/productdetail.cfm?product=CLX475-3</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999450</id>
	<title>Cost</title>
	<author>ewoods</author>
	<datestamp>1257414480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The biggest reason this doesn't happen is cost.  Those crappy phones you mention (I have similar setup) costs the manufacturer pennies to make.  There's no fancy operating system, no connectivity with disparate systems, no pricey architecture, nothing fancy.  In order to do what smart phones do, the cost would go up.  Your smart phone isn't cheap, but the price is subsidized by the phone provider through deals with the manufacturer and built into the cost of the plan as a whole.  Good luck, but I wouldn't expect it to happen any time soon because most people won't pay hundreds for a home phone system when they can get one that works with 4 handsets for $50.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The biggest reason this does n't happen is cost .
Those crappy phones you mention ( I have similar setup ) costs the manufacturer pennies to make .
There 's no fancy operating system , no connectivity with disparate systems , no pricey architecture , nothing fancy .
In order to do what smart phones do , the cost would go up .
Your smart phone is n't cheap , but the price is subsidized by the phone provider through deals with the manufacturer and built into the cost of the plan as a whole .
Good luck , but I would n't expect it to happen any time soon because most people wo n't pay hundreds for a home phone system when they can get one that works with 4 handsets for $ 50 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The biggest reason this doesn't happen is cost.
Those crappy phones you mention (I have similar setup) costs the manufacturer pennies to make.
There's no fancy operating system, no connectivity with disparate systems, no pricey architecture, nothing fancy.
In order to do what smart phones do, the cost would go up.
Your smart phone isn't cheap, but the price is subsidized by the phone provider through deals with the manufacturer and built into the cost of the plan as a whole.
Good luck, but I wouldn't expect it to happen any time soon because most people won't pay hundreds for a home phone system when they can get one that works with 4 handsets for $50.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30002980</id>
	<title>Cybergenie by cygnion</title>
	<author>RudySolis</author>
	<datestamp>1257441240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I got one of these years ago, messed with it for a bit but never really took full advantage of it.  Not sure what types of products they have now-a-days but it might be worth looking into...I know voicemail was stored on the computer with remote retrieval and you could set up different mail boxes for different users and ppl would press a number for who they wanted to talk to and i think only their handset would ring.  Been awhile tho so I'm not positive.
<br> <br>

www.cygnion.net

<br> <br>
(I've got a slightly used older model I could probably part with. I know the headset battery needs replaced because it was never really used and put in my closet years ago.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I got one of these years ago , messed with it for a bit but never really took full advantage of it .
Not sure what types of products they have now-a-days but it might be worth looking into...I know voicemail was stored on the computer with remote retrieval and you could set up different mail boxes for different users and ppl would press a number for who they wanted to talk to and i think only their handset would ring .
Been awhile tho so I 'm not positive .
www.cygnion.net ( I 've got a slightly used older model I could probably part with .
I know the headset battery needs replaced because it was never really used and put in my closet years ago .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got one of these years ago, messed with it for a bit but never really took full advantage of it.
Not sure what types of products they have now-a-days but it might be worth looking into...I know voicemail was stored on the computer with remote retrieval and you could set up different mail boxes for different users and ppl would press a number for who they wanted to talk to and i think only their handset would ring.
Been awhile tho so I'm not positive.
www.cygnion.net

 
(I've got a slightly used older model I could probably part with.
I know the headset battery needs replaced because it was never really used and put in my closet years ago.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999488</id>
	<title>Why are you so backwards?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257414660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why on earth are you still using a landline? A mobile phone will probably be cheaper, you can take it with you anywhere (even in your home), and most of them can sync with your computer contacts (or even your contacts in the cloud).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why on earth are you still using a landline ?
A mobile phone will probably be cheaper , you can take it with you anywhere ( even in your home ) , and most of them can sync with your computer contacts ( or even your contacts in the cloud ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why on earth are you still using a landline?
A mobile phone will probably be cheaper, you can take it with you anywhere (even in your home), and most of them can sync with your computer contacts (or even your contacts in the cloud).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30002382</id>
	<title>Re:Go Analog</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257432600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Backing it up is tedious and sorting the thing by birthdays takes some time too. Then there's the dual location access problems and no matter how I attach it I can't get autodial to work<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Backing it up is tedious and sorting the thing by birthdays takes some time too .
Then there 's the dual location access problems and no matter how I attach it I ca n't get autodial to work .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Backing it up is tedious and sorting the thing by birthdays takes some time too.
Then there's the dual location access problems and no matter how I attach it I can't get autodial to work ...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000234</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30003772</id>
	<title>Re:Landline abandonment</title>
	<author>houghi</author>
	<datestamp>1257499740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> But what happens when you have a three-year-old child? Going to get them a cell phone? I don't think so. And while you can teach a three year old to dial 911 calling from a cell phone may not be anywhere near as easy or helpful. In a house the GPS chip isn't going to work so well, so your phone isn't going to know where it is. Meaning that the fire department doesn't know where to go.</p></div></blockquote><p>The tree year old must be supervised by a grown up who can use a phone. "But what if the grown up can't call for whatever reason?" Tough. I would not rely on a tree year old to save my life. If it happens, great. If not, I die. People die all the time. It is not that big a deal.<br>But hey, it is your money and if you want to pay the company a monthly fee just so your three year old can safe your life, please do.<br>Unfortunatly I can't give up my landline, because that would mean I won't have ADSL anymore and cable is not an option for me.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But what happens when you have a three-year-old child ?
Going to get them a cell phone ?
I do n't think so .
And while you can teach a three year old to dial 911 calling from a cell phone may not be anywhere near as easy or helpful .
In a house the GPS chip is n't going to work so well , so your phone is n't going to know where it is .
Meaning that the fire department does n't know where to go.The tree year old must be supervised by a grown up who can use a phone .
" But what if the grown up ca n't call for whatever reason ?
" Tough .
I would not rely on a tree year old to save my life .
If it happens , great .
If not , I die .
People die all the time .
It is not that big a deal.But hey , it is your money and if you want to pay the company a monthly fee just so your three year old can safe your life , please do.Unfortunatly I ca n't give up my landline , because that would mean I wo n't have ADSL anymore and cable is not an option for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> But what happens when you have a three-year-old child?
Going to get them a cell phone?
I don't think so.
And while you can teach a three year old to dial 911 calling from a cell phone may not be anywhere near as easy or helpful.
In a house the GPS chip isn't going to work so well, so your phone isn't going to know where it is.
Meaning that the fire department doesn't know where to go.The tree year old must be supervised by a grown up who can use a phone.
"But what if the grown up can't call for whatever reason?
" Tough.
I would not rely on a tree year old to save my life.
If it happens, great.
If not, I die.
People die all the time.
It is not that big a deal.But hey, it is your money and if you want to pay the company a monthly fee just so your three year old can safe your life, please do.Unfortunatly I can't give up my landline, because that would mean I won't have ADSL anymore and cable is not an option for me.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000018</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000378</id>
	<title>Not cordless</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257418500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is not a cordless variant AFAIK but check out www.aksysnetworks.com for a unique PSTN/P2P VoIP hybrid that does all of the synchronizing, auto attendant, voicemail to email etc features without a centralized server.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is not a cordless variant AFAIK but check out www.aksysnetworks.com for a unique PSTN/P2P VoIP hybrid that does all of the synchronizing , auto attendant , voicemail to email etc features without a centralized server .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is not a cordless variant AFAIK but check out www.aksysnetworks.com for a unique PSTN/P2P VoIP hybrid that does all of the synchronizing, auto attendant, voicemail to email etc features without a centralized server.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999474</id>
	<title>Depends.</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1257414540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Good old fashioned POTS stuff has its advantages(phones, even wireless ones, are incredibly cheap, you can carry the signal over cable of virtually arbitrary crappiness); but sophistication isn't really one of them. Even DECT gear, while ostensibly some kind of standard, is little more powerful or interoperable than the old-school proprietary RF linked wireless phones.<br> <br>

If you want power, you really want VOIP phones(even if you end up using a copper POTS line to dial out, though you can often save money by using a SIP provider). Voicemail sent to your email, speech to text, configurable menues, contacts lists that connect to LDAP/AD backends, the whole deal. Unfortunately, VOIP hardware tends to be substantially more expensive than the old POTS stuff(unless you count software VOIP clients running on hardware you already have) and need proper modern data connections(either wired or wireless ethernet, usually).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good old fashioned POTS stuff has its advantages ( phones , even wireless ones , are incredibly cheap , you can carry the signal over cable of virtually arbitrary crappiness ) ; but sophistication is n't really one of them .
Even DECT gear , while ostensibly some kind of standard , is little more powerful or interoperable than the old-school proprietary RF linked wireless phones .
If you want power , you really want VOIP phones ( even if you end up using a copper POTS line to dial out , though you can often save money by using a SIP provider ) .
Voicemail sent to your email , speech to text , configurable menues , contacts lists that connect to LDAP/AD backends , the whole deal .
Unfortunately , VOIP hardware tends to be substantially more expensive than the old POTS stuff ( unless you count software VOIP clients running on hardware you already have ) and need proper modern data connections ( either wired or wireless ethernet , usually ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good old fashioned POTS stuff has its advantages(phones, even wireless ones, are incredibly cheap, you can carry the signal over cable of virtually arbitrary crappiness); but sophistication isn't really one of them.
Even DECT gear, while ostensibly some kind of standard, is little more powerful or interoperable than the old-school proprietary RF linked wireless phones.
If you want power, you really want VOIP phones(even if you end up using a copper POTS line to dial out, though you can often save money by using a SIP provider).
Voicemail sent to your email, speech to text, configurable menues, contacts lists that connect to LDAP/AD backends, the whole deal.
Unfortunately, VOIP hardware tends to be substantially more expensive than the old POTS stuff(unless you count software VOIP clients running on hardware you already have) and need proper modern data connections(either wired or wireless ethernet, usually).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000058</id>
	<title>A Chain of Problems, Asterisk is not the Answer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257417060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Having set up Asterisk a couple of different places AND attempting to integrate most of the things discussed, I can tell you there are a whole chain of problems.</p><p><i>a phone system that I could sync to my computer so I could update the phone book over all the units</i><br>Meaning a single address book shared/synced at all phones?  You would need phones with *some* kind of open client interface.  Of which, there are exactly zero.</p><p><i>(if not sync with Address Book or Outlook),</i><br>Please, dear Lord.  No.  This is another binary jail. But it looks like you want your home computer's Outlook client to be somehow involved.  Which, is another programming mountain to climb separate from the first feature.</p><p><i>keep a log of caller IDs</i><br>This, Asterisk can do.  A more flexible solution requiring some coding is Freeswitch.  As others have mentioned, you have to plug the POTS line into your PC.  Is there a GUI that can render the results to meet your satisfaction?  Maybe.</p><p><i>or even forward me new voicemail notifications.</i><br>Asterisk and Freeswitch can do this too.  But, there are numerous details that drive people away.   Do the hard/soft phones you end up using have ways to implement call forwarding?  How about controlling call forwarding at the server only?  Is there a GUI available to meet your standards of usable?  I haven't worked with Asterisk in a long time though maybe there are prettier ways of doing things now.</p><p>Dog forbid you want to integrate your mobile phone into the fray.</p><p>BTW, there's a whole forest of patents on voicemail notification alone.  Even *if* something was made, it probably violates patents.  <a href="http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc\_id=98808" title="lightreading.com">http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc\_id=98808</a> [lightreading.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having set up Asterisk a couple of different places AND attempting to integrate most of the things discussed , I can tell you there are a whole chain of problems.a phone system that I could sync to my computer so I could update the phone book over all the unitsMeaning a single address book shared/synced at all phones ?
You would need phones with * some * kind of open client interface .
Of which , there are exactly zero .
( if not sync with Address Book or Outlook ) ,Please , dear Lord .
No. This is another binary jail .
But it looks like you want your home computer 's Outlook client to be somehow involved .
Which , is another programming mountain to climb separate from the first feature.keep a log of caller IDsThis , Asterisk can do .
A more flexible solution requiring some coding is Freeswitch .
As others have mentioned , you have to plug the POTS line into your PC .
Is there a GUI that can render the results to meet your satisfaction ?
Maybe.or even forward me new voicemail notifications.Asterisk and Freeswitch can do this too .
But , there are numerous details that drive people away .
Do the hard/soft phones you end up using have ways to implement call forwarding ?
How about controlling call forwarding at the server only ?
Is there a GUI available to meet your standards of usable ?
I have n't worked with Asterisk in a long time though maybe there are prettier ways of doing things now.Dog forbid you want to integrate your mobile phone into the fray.BTW , there 's a whole forest of patents on voicemail notification alone .
Even * if * something was made , it probably violates patents .
http : //www.lightreading.com/document.asp ? doc \ _id = 98808 [ lightreading.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having set up Asterisk a couple of different places AND attempting to integrate most of the things discussed, I can tell you there are a whole chain of problems.a phone system that I could sync to my computer so I could update the phone book over all the unitsMeaning a single address book shared/synced at all phones?
You would need phones with *some* kind of open client interface.
Of which, there are exactly zero.
(if not sync with Address Book or Outlook),Please, dear Lord.
No.  This is another binary jail.
But it looks like you want your home computer's Outlook client to be somehow involved.
Which, is another programming mountain to climb separate from the first feature.keep a log of caller IDsThis, Asterisk can do.
A more flexible solution requiring some coding is Freeswitch.
As others have mentioned, you have to plug the POTS line into your PC.
Is there a GUI that can render the results to meet your satisfaction?
Maybe.or even forward me new voicemail notifications.Asterisk and Freeswitch can do this too.
But, there are numerous details that drive people away.
Do the hard/soft phones you end up using have ways to implement call forwarding?
How about controlling call forwarding at the server only?
Is there a GUI available to meet your standards of usable?
I haven't worked with Asterisk in a long time though maybe there are prettier ways of doing things now.Dog forbid you want to integrate your mobile phone into the fray.BTW, there's a whole forest of patents on voicemail notification alone.
Even *if* something was made, it probably violates patents.
http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc\_id=98808 [lightreading.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30005898</id>
	<title>Re:Regular phones are so backwards...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257524520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When the last hurricane blew through this part of East Texas, the power was out for more than 24 hours. My cheap ass $5 phone worked and my fancy multichannel radio phone was just taking up space.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When the last hurricane blew through this part of East Texas , the power was out for more than 24 hours .
My cheap ass $ 5 phone worked and my fancy multichannel radio phone was just taking up space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When the last hurricane blew through this part of East Texas, the power was out for more than 24 hours.
My cheap ass $5 phone worked and my fancy multichannel radio phone was just taking up space.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999440</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999786</id>
	<title>Contemporize, man.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257415860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My phone does all the stuff you want.  And it has no wires.  And nobody asks, "Is Bobby home?" when I answer it.  It keeps an extensive callerID history on board and a full accounting of all incoming and outgoing calls is available online.  I can synchronize my contacts and calendar with the computer.  Got voicemail notification and everything.</p><p>Land lines are dying.  The chances of seeing major integration improvements are slim to none so, if you're stuck on the idea of keeping a land line, just start looking at what's out there right now and buy the best you can afford.  There's no point in waiting because it's not going to get any better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My phone does all the stuff you want .
And it has no wires .
And nobody asks , " Is Bobby home ?
" when I answer it .
It keeps an extensive callerID history on board and a full accounting of all incoming and outgoing calls is available online .
I can synchronize my contacts and calendar with the computer .
Got voicemail notification and everything.Land lines are dying .
The chances of seeing major integration improvements are slim to none so , if you 're stuck on the idea of keeping a land line , just start looking at what 's out there right now and buy the best you can afford .
There 's no point in waiting because it 's not going to get any better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My phone does all the stuff you want.
And it has no wires.
And nobody asks, "Is Bobby home?
" when I answer it.
It keeps an extensive callerID history on board and a full accounting of all incoming and outgoing calls is available online.
I can synchronize my contacts and calendar with the computer.
Got voicemail notification and everything.Land lines are dying.
The chances of seeing major integration improvements are slim to none so, if you're stuck on the idea of keeping a land line, just start looking at what's out there right now and buy the best you can afford.
There's no point in waiting because it's not going to get any better.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000044</id>
	<title>Re:Why are you so backwards?</title>
	<author>Cro Magnon</author>
	<datestamp>1257417000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My landline kept working during a 5 day blackout.  My cellphone barely lasts a day without recharging.</p><p>My landline has great sound.  My cellphone is mediocre.</p><p>My landline rings loudly enough to hear anywhere in the house.  I can usually hear my cellphone when it's in my damn pocket, barely.</p><p>My landline might be "primitive", but it works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My landline kept working during a 5 day blackout .
My cellphone barely lasts a day without recharging.My landline has great sound .
My cellphone is mediocre.My landline rings loudly enough to hear anywhere in the house .
I can usually hear my cellphone when it 's in my damn pocket , barely.My landline might be " primitive " , but it works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My landline kept working during a 5 day blackout.
My cellphone barely lasts a day without recharging.My landline has great sound.
My cellphone is mediocre.My landline rings loudly enough to hear anywhere in the house.
I can usually hear my cellphone when it's in my damn pocket, barely.My landline might be "primitive", but it works.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999488</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999682</id>
	<title>Re:Regular phones are so backwards...</title>
	<author>value\_added</author>
	<datestamp>1257415440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Personally, I would never replace my POTS phone with anything "high tech".</i></p><p>Unless you have an older model made by AT&amp;T (bonus points if it's rotary and heavy enough to kill a horse), or use business-quality phones at home, chances are good that the quality and feature set of your home phone is "adequate" and not much more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally , I would never replace my POTS phone with anything " high tech " .Unless you have an older model made by AT&amp;T ( bonus points if it 's rotary and heavy enough to kill a horse ) , or use business-quality phones at home , chances are good that the quality and feature set of your home phone is " adequate " and not much more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally, I would never replace my POTS phone with anything "high tech".Unless you have an older model made by AT&amp;T (bonus points if it's rotary and heavy enough to kill a horse), or use business-quality phones at home, chances are good that the quality and feature set of your home phone is "adequate" and not much more.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999440</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000546</id>
	<title>Re:Why are you so backwards?</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1257419280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>A mobile phone will probably be cheaper</i></p><p>I'd like to see that.</p><p><i>you can take it with you anywhere </i></p><p>And then people bitch when you don't take it anywhere, and they can't contact you.</p><p><i>most of them can sync with your computer contacts </i></p><p>I'm just fine with writing numbers on the little card attached to my phone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A mobile phone will probably be cheaperI 'd like to see that.you can take it with you anywhere And then people bitch when you do n't take it anywhere , and they ca n't contact you.most of them can sync with your computer contacts I 'm just fine with writing numbers on the little card attached to my phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A mobile phone will probably be cheaperI'd like to see that.you can take it with you anywhere And then people bitch when you don't take it anywhere, and they can't contact you.most of them can sync with your computer contacts I'm just fine with writing numbers on the little card attached to my phone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999488</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000638</id>
	<title>Re:Why are you so backwards?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257419640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because some of us live in backward countries (*cough* CANADA *cough*) where a cellphone is ludicously over-priced.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because some of us live in backward countries ( * cough * CANADA * cough * ) where a cellphone is ludicously over-priced .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because some of us live in backward countries (*cough* CANADA *cough*) where a cellphone is ludicously over-priced.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999488</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000532</id>
	<title>There are better phones out there...</title>
	<author>neowolf</author>
	<datestamp>1257419220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a Phillips DECT system with four cordless phones and one base. Almost all setup options are replicated between the phones almost instantly, including the phone book, which allows for custom ring tones for individuals (similar to a cell phone). The only option that isn't duplicated, which I like, is the default ringer and ring volume- which can be set by phone. So- the phone in the bedroom doesn't have to have the same loud ring as the one in the Kitchen or Den. I don't see any reason to get more sophisticated than that, unless you want one of those new carrier-linked Internet connected phones (from Comcast and Verizon, for example), which basically give you standard "smart phone" capabilities in an inconveniently wired package.<br>
<br>
If you want to go for overkill- do what I did once and I know others have suggested: Set up an Asterisk-based PBX server and buy display phones for it. You can also use SIP adapters with regular or cordless phones, but you will have to compromise on some of the functionality. For example- you can get Caller ID and basic voicemail notifications on a standard phone/cordless display, but that's about it. You can pick up new office-style display phones pretty cheap (around $100) on eBay.<br>
<br>
I had an Asterisk setup like I described for awhile, but eventually got tired of it. Having a computer running 24x7 for the server (even if it is just a laptop) is wasteful, as is running network cables everywhere I wanted a phone. It also seemed like I was constantly troubleshooting problems with it- one phone liked dropping offline for no apparent reason no matter what I did, and one of the SIP adapters I used was flaky. You don't want an unreliable phone system.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Phillips DECT system with four cordless phones and one base .
Almost all setup options are replicated between the phones almost instantly , including the phone book , which allows for custom ring tones for individuals ( similar to a cell phone ) .
The only option that is n't duplicated , which I like , is the default ringer and ring volume- which can be set by phone .
So- the phone in the bedroom does n't have to have the same loud ring as the one in the Kitchen or Den .
I do n't see any reason to get more sophisticated than that , unless you want one of those new carrier-linked Internet connected phones ( from Comcast and Verizon , for example ) , which basically give you standard " smart phone " capabilities in an inconveniently wired package .
If you want to go for overkill- do what I did once and I know others have suggested : Set up an Asterisk-based PBX server and buy display phones for it .
You can also use SIP adapters with regular or cordless phones , but you will have to compromise on some of the functionality .
For example- you can get Caller ID and basic voicemail notifications on a standard phone/cordless display , but that 's about it .
You can pick up new office-style display phones pretty cheap ( around $ 100 ) on eBay .
I had an Asterisk setup like I described for awhile , but eventually got tired of it .
Having a computer running 24x7 for the server ( even if it is just a laptop ) is wasteful , as is running network cables everywhere I wanted a phone .
It also seemed like I was constantly troubleshooting problems with it- one phone liked dropping offline for no apparent reason no matter what I did , and one of the SIP adapters I used was flaky .
You do n't want an unreliable phone system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Phillips DECT system with four cordless phones and one base.
Almost all setup options are replicated between the phones almost instantly, including the phone book, which allows for custom ring tones for individuals (similar to a cell phone).
The only option that isn't duplicated, which I like, is the default ringer and ring volume- which can be set by phone.
So- the phone in the bedroom doesn't have to have the same loud ring as the one in the Kitchen or Den.
I don't see any reason to get more sophisticated than that, unless you want one of those new carrier-linked Internet connected phones (from Comcast and Verizon, for example), which basically give you standard "smart phone" capabilities in an inconveniently wired package.
If you want to go for overkill- do what I did once and I know others have suggested: Set up an Asterisk-based PBX server and buy display phones for it.
You can also use SIP adapters with regular or cordless phones, but you will have to compromise on some of the functionality.
For example- you can get Caller ID and basic voicemail notifications on a standard phone/cordless display, but that's about it.
You can pick up new office-style display phones pretty cheap (around $100) on eBay.
I had an Asterisk setup like I described for awhile, but eventually got tired of it.
Having a computer running 24x7 for the server (even if it is just a laptop) is wasteful, as is running network cables everywhere I wanted a phone.
It also seemed like I was constantly troubleshooting problems with it- one phone liked dropping offline for no apparent reason no matter what I did, and one of the SIP adapters I used was flaky.
You don't want an unreliable phone system.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30011050</id>
	<title>Re:The overkill solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257509760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or you could use FreeSWITCH with mod\_event\_socket.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or you could use FreeSWITCH with mod \ _event \ _socket .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or you could use FreeSWITCH with mod\_event\_socket.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999428</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30005998</id>
	<title>I have those same phones</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257525360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They are actually pretty decent.  Yes it would be nice to have downloadable ringtones and a USB interface on the base, but let's be honest--how much did you pay for them?</p><p>OK, NOW do you expect them to be &#252;ber fancy?  I didn't think so.  But they are better than you realize.  The address book being for each phone is a *feature* (the phone in my wife's office has her contacts, the one in my office has mine, and the one in the bedroom has friends &amp; family. Hellooooo, not all of us live alone).</p><p>I spent 60-70 USD about 2 years ago and I just expected them to be decent phones.  The caller ID display is bonus (now that I have an ooma and get caller ID), the phones survive drops pretty well, they use normal AAA (rechargable) batteries so I was able to replace the batteries in the heavily used office phones with higher rated cells, the interface is not too complex (important for non-geeks like my wife and 7-year-old).</p><p>Buddy look.  If you want a fancy phone you have to *buy one*.  Don't expect to pay 64.99 for 4 phones plus digital answering machine and get a damn iPhone.  ooma has some snazzy new phone that goes with their new base station.  That might be what you want, check it out.  It does cost more for 1 phone than the Pannys do for 4, but hey, that's up to you.  Make a better choice this time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are actually pretty decent .
Yes it would be nice to have downloadable ringtones and a USB interface on the base , but let 's be honest--how much did you pay for them ? OK , NOW do you expect them to be   ber fancy ?
I did n't think so .
But they are better than you realize .
The address book being for each phone is a * feature * ( the phone in my wife 's office has her contacts , the one in my office has mine , and the one in the bedroom has friends &amp; family .
Hellooooo , not all of us live alone ) .I spent 60-70 USD about 2 years ago and I just expected them to be decent phones .
The caller ID display is bonus ( now that I have an ooma and get caller ID ) , the phones survive drops pretty well , they use normal AAA ( rechargable ) batteries so I was able to replace the batteries in the heavily used office phones with higher rated cells , the interface is not too complex ( important for non-geeks like my wife and 7-year-old ) .Buddy look .
If you want a fancy phone you have to * buy one * .
Do n't expect to pay 64.99 for 4 phones plus digital answering machine and get a damn iPhone .
ooma has some snazzy new phone that goes with their new base station .
That might be what you want , check it out .
It does cost more for 1 phone than the Pannys do for 4 , but hey , that 's up to you .
Make a better choice this time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are actually pretty decent.
Yes it would be nice to have downloadable ringtones and a USB interface on the base, but let's be honest--how much did you pay for them?OK, NOW do you expect them to be über fancy?
I didn't think so.
But they are better than you realize.
The address book being for each phone is a *feature* (the phone in my wife's office has her contacts, the one in my office has mine, and the one in the bedroom has friends &amp; family.
Hellooooo, not all of us live alone).I spent 60-70 USD about 2 years ago and I just expected them to be decent phones.
The caller ID display is bonus (now that I have an ooma and get caller ID), the phones survive drops pretty well, they use normal AAA (rechargable) batteries so I was able to replace the batteries in the heavily used office phones with higher rated cells, the interface is not too complex (important for non-geeks like my wife and 7-year-old).Buddy look.
If you want a fancy phone you have to *buy one*.
Don't expect to pay 64.99 for 4 phones plus digital answering machine and get a damn iPhone.
ooma has some snazzy new phone that goes with their new base station.
That might be what you want, check it out.
It does cost more for 1 phone than the Pannys do for 4, but hey, that's up to you.
Make a better choice this time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001556</id>
	<title>Regular phones are so reliable...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257424620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I find it interesting the call for broadband to be an utility without the corresponding call for reliability.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I find it interesting the call for broadband to be an utility without the corresponding call for reliability .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find it interesting the call for broadband to be an utility without the corresponding call for reliability.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999756</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30004528</id>
	<title>Sipgate !</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257513000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi folks<br>I am using a VOIP acount in Germany from sipgate.com<br>This thing just works, is cheap AND is free of charge.<br>Have fun</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi folksI am using a VOIP acount in Germany from sipgate.comThis thing just works , is cheap AND is free of charge.Have fun</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi folksI am using a VOIP acount in Germany from sipgate.comThis thing just works, is cheap AND is free of charge.Have fun</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000168</id>
	<title>Inexpensive Office System aka A Key System</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257417540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What you want is a small system that comes with a KSU- key switching unit and has PBX like functionaltiy as well. You may find today they come with integrated voice mail or a out of the box solution. You may find them used and of course more pricey especially anything wireless but they do the job.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; One of my faves, the Norstar system by Nortel, which I believe now integrates VoIP with Fiber trunking if needed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What you want is a small system that comes with a KSU- key switching unit and has PBX like functionaltiy as well .
You may find today they come with integrated voice mail or a out of the box solution .
You may find them used and of course more pricey especially anything wireless but they do the job .
      One of my faves , the Norstar system by Nortel , which I believe now integrates VoIP with Fiber trunking if needed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What you want is a small system that comes with a KSU- key switching unit and has PBX like functionaltiy as well.
You may find today they come with integrated voice mail or a out of the box solution.
You may find them used and of course more pricey especially anything wireless but they do the job.
      One of my faves, the Norstar system by Nortel, which I believe now integrates VoIP with Fiber trunking if needed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001610</id>
	<title>Re:The overkill solution</title>
	<author>Etylowy</author>
	<datestamp>1257425160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Um.. overkill you say? That's exactly what I did last week (used php, not ruby on rails).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Um.. overkill you say ?
That 's exactly what I did last week ( used php , not ruby on rails ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um.. overkill you say?
That's exactly what I did last week (used php, not ruby on rails).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999428</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000154</id>
	<title>Limited Markets</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257417420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about http://www.comcast.com/homepoint/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about http : //www.comcast.com/homepoint/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about http://www.comcast.com/homepoint/</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000234</id>
	<title>Go Analog</title>
	<author>megamerican</author>
	<datestamp>1257417780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Invest in a $5 phone book. Write once, works with everything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Invest in a $ 5 phone book .
Write once , works with everything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Invest in a $5 phone book.
Write once, works with everything.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999422</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000868</id>
	<title>Siemens Gigaset</title>
	<author>dUN82</author>
	<datestamp>1257420840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am using a Siemens Gigaset system along with a Siemens M34 USB dongle, which allows you to manage directory form your PC and  Skype etc, but you have to do it via outlook, which is painful as well. Personally, I found google contacts to be the most useful across platforms that can be a feature for home telephone that can be further explored. There are later Gigaset phones that allow you to simply copy your sim contacts from your mobile phone to your home phone or batch send it via bluetooth, but I found Siemens phones are not very popular in the US, which it strange because I found Gigaset phones are far more superior in call clarity, os friendliness and have better industrial design and build quality, and runs on standard AAA batteries instead of those battery packs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am using a Siemens Gigaset system along with a Siemens M34 USB dongle , which allows you to manage directory form your PC and Skype etc , but you have to do it via outlook , which is painful as well .
Personally , I found google contacts to be the most useful across platforms that can be a feature for home telephone that can be further explored .
There are later Gigaset phones that allow you to simply copy your sim contacts from your mobile phone to your home phone or batch send it via bluetooth , but I found Siemens phones are not very popular in the US , which it strange because I found Gigaset phones are far more superior in call clarity , os friendliness and have better industrial design and build quality , and runs on standard AAA batteries instead of those battery packs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am using a Siemens Gigaset system along with a Siemens M34 USB dongle, which allows you to manage directory form your PC and  Skype etc, but you have to do it via outlook, which is painful as well.
Personally, I found google contacts to be the most useful across platforms that can be a feature for home telephone that can be further explored.
There are later Gigaset phones that allow you to simply copy your sim contacts from your mobile phone to your home phone or batch send it via bluetooth, but I found Siemens phones are not very popular in the US, which it strange because I found Gigaset phones are far more superior in call clarity, os friendliness and have better industrial design and build quality, and runs on standard AAA batteries instead of those battery packs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999422</id>
	<title>The Tech That Oughtta Be</title>
	<author>25thCenturyQuaker</author>
	<datestamp>1257414360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's a great question, and an even better request to broadcast to manufacturers.

I have a 4 unit/1 base V-Tech cordless system at home that I love (rugged [survived a drop in a toilet and kept on working], battery life, etc), except for wishing that it did stuff that it doesn't. The feature tech isn't the difficult part, it's getting the manufacturer's attention so they know it's wanted.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a great question , and an even better request to broadcast to manufacturers .
I have a 4 unit/1 base V-Tech cordless system at home that I love ( rugged [ survived a drop in a toilet and kept on working ] , battery life , etc ) , except for wishing that it did stuff that it does n't .
The feature tech is n't the difficult part , it 's getting the manufacturer 's attention so they know it 's wanted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a great question, and an even better request to broadcast to manufacturers.
I have a 4 unit/1 base V-Tech cordless system at home that I love (rugged [survived a drop in a toilet and kept on working], battery life, etc), except for wishing that it did stuff that it doesn't.
The feature tech isn't the difficult part, it's getting the manufacturer's attention so they know it's wanted.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000178</id>
	<title>Try OpenPeak</title>
	<author>JoshDM</author>
	<datestamp>1257417540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.openpeak.com/" title="openpeak.com">Open Peak</a> [openpeak.com] <br> <br>

It is as though they took an iPhone and applied it to a workplace telephone system.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Open Peak [ openpeak.com ] It is as though they took an iPhone and applied it to a workplace telephone system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Open Peak [openpeak.com]  

It is as though they took an iPhone and applied it to a workplace telephone system.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30002110</id>
	<title>Re:Try OpenPeak</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257429960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While OpenPeak looks nice I'd place them firmly in the "Vaporware" camp. Their web site is similar to what it was two years ago (the main difference being the switch to Atom as their processor of current choice) and there is still no indication of pricing or availability.</p><p>I'd just like to see the Apple Home Phone (hPhone?).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While OpenPeak looks nice I 'd place them firmly in the " Vaporware " camp .
Their web site is similar to what it was two years ago ( the main difference being the switch to Atom as their processor of current choice ) and there is still no indication of pricing or availability.I 'd just like to see the Apple Home Phone ( hPhone ?
) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While OpenPeak looks nice I'd place them firmly in the "Vaporware" camp.
Their web site is similar to what it was two years ago (the main difference being the switch to Atom as their processor of current choice) and there is still no indication of pricing or availability.I'd just like to see the Apple Home Phone (hPhone?
).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000178</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30130098</id>
	<title>Solutions Available - there's just a cost</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258478580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As noted in other posts, there are plenty of Panasonic, Siemens and Uniden models that allow you to share/update the directory across handets &amp; base.  Siemens has the <a href="http://www.cordlessworkz.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&amp;ProdID=2131" title="cordlessworkz.com" rel="nofollow">Gigaset SL785</a> [cordlessworkz.com] that will allow you to share addresses from your pc through USB or Bluetooth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As noted in other posts , there are plenty of Panasonic , Siemens and Uniden models that allow you to share/update the directory across handets &amp; base .
Siemens has the Gigaset SL785 [ cordlessworkz.com ] that will allow you to share addresses from your pc through USB or Bluetooth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As noted in other posts, there are plenty of Panasonic, Siemens and Uniden models that allow you to share/update the directory across handets &amp; base.
Siemens has the Gigaset SL785 [cordlessworkz.com] that will allow you to share addresses from your pc through USB or Bluetooth.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30003032</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257442320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a phone that doesn't drop calls.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a phone that does n't drop calls .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a phone that doesn't drop calls.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999404</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999790</id>
	<title>30 seconds of Google</title>
	<author>bensode</author>
	<datestamp>1257415920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google much?</p><p><a href="http://www.voicecallcentral.com/" title="voicecallcentral.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.voicecallcentral.com/</a> [voicecallcentral.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google much ? http : //www.voicecallcentral.com/ [ voicecallcentral.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google much?http://www.voicecallcentral.com/ [voicecallcentral.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000016</id>
	<title>E.T. phone home</title>
	<author>flahwho</author>
	<datestamp>1257416820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Certainly this would be a great opportunity for VOIP phones, which is a market waiting to either grow: where we'll see everyone back to Land-line style phones in their homes (not likely to happen) or bite the dust: the mobile phone world has taken over as the preferred method of consumer communication, leaving the 20-somethings saying stuff like "what's a land-line?".
<br>
<br>
What's an E.T?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Certainly this would be a great opportunity for VOIP phones , which is a market waiting to either grow : where we 'll see everyone back to Land-line style phones in their homes ( not likely to happen ) or bite the dust : the mobile phone world has taken over as the preferred method of consumer communication , leaving the 20-somethings saying stuff like " what 's a land-line ? " .
What 's an E.T ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Certainly this would be a great opportunity for VOIP phones, which is a market waiting to either grow: where we'll see everyone back to Land-line style phones in their homes (not likely to happen) or bite the dust: the mobile phone world has taken over as the preferred method of consumer communication, leaving the 20-somethings saying stuff like "what's a land-line?".
What's an E.T?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999826</id>
	<title>Re:Depends.</title>
	<author>Ecuador</author>
	<datestamp>1257416040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Instead of VOIP phones dialing out of POTS, you can also get the features the OP wants by going the opposite way. For example I have simple DECT phones hooked on a Thomson VOIP DSL router, which router can have a unified address book, call logs etc. Obviously this is solution is dependent on having a DSL+VOIP provider in your area.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Instead of VOIP phones dialing out of POTS , you can also get the features the OP wants by going the opposite way .
For example I have simple DECT phones hooked on a Thomson VOIP DSL router , which router can have a unified address book , call logs etc .
Obviously this is solution is dependent on having a DSL + VOIP provider in your area .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Instead of VOIP phones dialing out of POTS, you can also get the features the OP wants by going the opposite way.
For example I have simple DECT phones hooked on a Thomson VOIP DSL router, which router can have a unified address book, call logs etc.
Obviously this is solution is dependent on having a DSL+VOIP provider in your area.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999474</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30011688</id>
	<title>Re:Landline abandonment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257516420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hahahah!</p><p>Just a bit of background.<br>I work for a large Telco in Australia.<br>I log faults on PSTN lines (boring old copper POTS)<br>I also work with VoIP</p><p>I regularly see lines that will not work for PSTN until they are repaired.<br>These same lines regularly work for ADSL.</p><p>See, ADSL is a radio signal. POTS is a circuit. A phone line is 2 wires.<br>If the line is partially broken, or shorting (water, damage), POTS wont work.<br>ADSL will usually work if there is only 1 wire that makes it all the way from the exchange to the socket.</p><p>I have seen a working ADSL line that was partially unjumpered in the exchange meaning only 1 wire was connected.<br>The other wire had capacitance in the thousands (microfarads) and insulation in the hundreds of ohms.<br>This indicated that the line was saturated in a pit of water.</p><p>Admittedly of the 3 modems tried, only the ancient Siemens 4200 worked. It held 3mbit for 3 days until it was fixed.</p><p>Now on to VoIP.<br>While VoIP *can* be used anywhere, each of the numbers is provisioned as a landline. Therefore it has a fixed address that is updated in the emergency services databases.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hahahah ! Just a bit of background.I work for a large Telco in Australia.I log faults on PSTN lines ( boring old copper POTS ) I also work with VoIPI regularly see lines that will not work for PSTN until they are repaired.These same lines regularly work for ADSL.See , ADSL is a radio signal .
POTS is a circuit .
A phone line is 2 wires.If the line is partially broken , or shorting ( water , damage ) , POTS wont work.ADSL will usually work if there is only 1 wire that makes it all the way from the exchange to the socket.I have seen a working ADSL line that was partially unjumpered in the exchange meaning only 1 wire was connected.The other wire had capacitance in the thousands ( microfarads ) and insulation in the hundreds of ohms.This indicated that the line was saturated in a pit of water.Admittedly of the 3 modems tried , only the ancient Siemens 4200 worked .
It held 3mbit for 3 days until it was fixed.Now on to VoIP.While VoIP * can * be used anywhere , each of the numbers is provisioned as a landline .
Therefore it has a fixed address that is updated in the emergency services databases .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hahahah!Just a bit of background.I work for a large Telco in Australia.I log faults on PSTN lines (boring old copper POTS)I also work with VoIPI regularly see lines that will not work for PSTN until they are repaired.These same lines regularly work for ADSL.See, ADSL is a radio signal.
POTS is a circuit.
A phone line is 2 wires.If the line is partially broken, or shorting (water, damage), POTS wont work.ADSL will usually work if there is only 1 wire that makes it all the way from the exchange to the socket.I have seen a working ADSL line that was partially unjumpered in the exchange meaning only 1 wire was connected.The other wire had capacitance in the thousands (microfarads) and insulation in the hundreds of ohms.This indicated that the line was saturated in a pit of water.Admittedly of the 3 modems tried, only the ancient Siemens 4200 worked.
It held 3mbit for 3 days until it was fixed.Now on to VoIP.While VoIP *can* be used anywhere, each of the numbers is provisioned as a landline.
Therefore it has a fixed address that is updated in the emergency services databases.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000018</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999456</id>
	<title>Not now, but 10 years ago</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257414540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft\_Cordless\_Phone\_System" title="wikipedia.org">Microsoft Cordless Phone System</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>You might be able to find one on EBay...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft Cordless Phone System [ wikipedia.org ] You might be able to find one on EBay.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft Cordless Phone System [wikipedia.org]You might be able to find one on EBay...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000908</id>
	<title>How about Vonage Contact Center?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257420960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Vonage subscibers have access to something called "Contact Center".</p><p>This allows you to dial into a web-based contact book. Update your contacts and they're available for all phones in the house, regardless of what kind of phone you have.</p><p>For voice-activated dialing, all you have to do is dial *44 from your Vonage phone, say the name of the person you want to call, and Vonage Voice Activated dialing will make the call for you.</p><p>I've been using this for a few years now and love it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Vonage subscibers have access to something called " Contact Center " .This allows you to dial into a web-based contact book .
Update your contacts and they 're available for all phones in the house , regardless of what kind of phone you have.For voice-activated dialing , all you have to do is dial * 44 from your Vonage phone , say the name of the person you want to call , and Vonage Voice Activated dialing will make the call for you.I 've been using this for a few years now and love it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vonage subscibers have access to something called "Contact Center".This allows you to dial into a web-based contact book.
Update your contacts and they're available for all phones in the house, regardless of what kind of phone you have.For voice-activated dialing, all you have to do is dial *44 from your Vonage phone, say the name of the person you want to call, and Vonage Voice Activated dialing will make the call for you.I've been using this for a few years now and love it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001894</id>
	<title>tmine's from costco</title>
	<author>airdrummer</author>
	<datestamp>1257427560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>panasonic kx-tga9341t, 5 handsets + base for $100!-) shared phonebook/msgs/cid, plus talking cid:-) my only complaint is the tcid is often hard to understand (it speaks the name, not the number, can't be switched)-: and u can't screen the incoming msgs on a handset, only on the base.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>panasonic kx-tga9341t , 5 handsets + base for $ 100 ! - ) shared phonebook/msgs/cid , plus talking cid : - ) my only complaint is the tcid is often hard to understand ( it speaks the name , not the number , ca n't be switched ) - : and u ca n't screen the incoming msgs on a handset , only on the base .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>panasonic kx-tga9341t, 5 handsets + base for $100!-) shared phonebook/msgs/cid, plus talking cid:-) my only complaint is the tcid is often hard to understand (it speaks the name, not the number, can't be switched)-: and u can't screen the incoming msgs on a handset, only on the base.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999462</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000082</id>
	<title>my base phones do this</title>
	<author>Sandbags</author>
	<datestamp>1257417120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For the life of me I can't remember the brand, but I got it at Sam's club.  I'll see if I can note it later tonight and enter it here as a reply to this comment (if i remember) Its 4 phones (supprots up to 6), 1 base station, 3 chargers, 8.1GHz.  Phone calls can be transfered between handsets easy, room to room pager functions, 2 phones can conference even miles from the base station (handy on long car trips with multiple cars trying to stay in touch).</p><p>most importantly, it has 2 nice features i think you're in the market for:<br>1) entering a new contact on any phone is automatically replicated to others, as well as management of caller-ID history too (clearing history on 1 phone clears it on all, including numebr by number or clear all).<br>2) items in caller-ID can be added to one of 2 calling lists: phone book, or "blocked calls"  The blocked call feature is what I really bought it for.  Up to 40-50 numbers can be added to the list.  (including by name or number).  Calls from that number ring once, then the phone sends a busy signal back down the line and the phone stops ringing.  This is great for keeping collection scams at bay; those guys who call asking to sell you warrantys for your car, and Portfolio Recovery Associates (scammers trying to collect debts that are no longer on record).</p><p>Granted, if you have a google voice number, all this is irrelevent, since you can call google and remote dial any favorite from there, and it;s blocked call featre is far superior as is their call screening option, but this base station is awesome if you still have a landline or VoIP line at home...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For the life of me I ca n't remember the brand , but I got it at Sam 's club .
I 'll see if I can note it later tonight and enter it here as a reply to this comment ( if i remember ) Its 4 phones ( supprots up to 6 ) , 1 base station , 3 chargers , 8.1GHz .
Phone calls can be transfered between handsets easy , room to room pager functions , 2 phones can conference even miles from the base station ( handy on long car trips with multiple cars trying to stay in touch ) .most importantly , it has 2 nice features i think you 're in the market for : 1 ) entering a new contact on any phone is automatically replicated to others , as well as management of caller-ID history too ( clearing history on 1 phone clears it on all , including numebr by number or clear all ) .2 ) items in caller-ID can be added to one of 2 calling lists : phone book , or " blocked calls " The blocked call feature is what I really bought it for .
Up to 40-50 numbers can be added to the list .
( including by name or number ) .
Calls from that number ring once , then the phone sends a busy signal back down the line and the phone stops ringing .
This is great for keeping collection scams at bay ; those guys who call asking to sell you warrantys for your car , and Portfolio Recovery Associates ( scammers trying to collect debts that are no longer on record ) .Granted , if you have a google voice number , all this is irrelevent , since you can call google and remote dial any favorite from there , and it ; s blocked call featre is far superior as is their call screening option , but this base station is awesome if you still have a landline or VoIP line at home.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the life of me I can't remember the brand, but I got it at Sam's club.
I'll see if I can note it later tonight and enter it here as a reply to this comment (if i remember) Its 4 phones (supprots up to 6), 1 base station, 3 chargers, 8.1GHz.
Phone calls can be transfered between handsets easy, room to room pager functions, 2 phones can conference even miles from the base station (handy on long car trips with multiple cars trying to stay in touch).most importantly, it has 2 nice features i think you're in the market for:1) entering a new contact on any phone is automatically replicated to others, as well as management of caller-ID history too (clearing history on 1 phone clears it on all, including numebr by number or clear all).2) items in caller-ID can be added to one of 2 calling lists: phone book, or "blocked calls"  The blocked call feature is what I really bought it for.
Up to 40-50 numbers can be added to the list.
(including by name or number).
Calls from that number ring once, then the phone sends a busy signal back down the line and the phone stops ringing.
This is great for keeping collection scams at bay; those guys who call asking to sell you warrantys for your car, and Portfolio Recovery Associates (scammers trying to collect debts that are no longer on record).Granted, if you have a google voice number, all this is irrelevent, since you can call google and remote dial any favorite from there, and it;s blocked call featre is far superior as is their call screening option, but this base station is awesome if you still have a landline or VoIP line at home...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000802</id>
	<title>Wellll yes</title>
	<author>sbeckstead</author>
	<datestamp>1257420480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you just want to track that stuff, get a magic jack.  It does keep track of those things.  Rather nicely too.
Of course you have to leave a computer on all the time but you expected that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you just want to track that stuff , get a magic jack .
It does keep track of those things .
Rather nicely too .
Of course you have to leave a computer on all the time but you expected that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you just want to track that stuff, get a magic jack.
It does keep track of those things.
Rather nicely too.
Of course you have to leave a computer on all the time but you expected that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001050</id>
	<title>Re:Regular phones are so backwards...</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1257421680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's really too bad that all those people died.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's really too bad that all those people died .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's really too bad that all those people died.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999756</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30033082</id>
	<title>Re:My phone setup</title>
	<author>ModifiedDog</author>
	<datestamp>1257783360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Likewise (but 4 handsets).  Model is this one: <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16876101289" title="newegg.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16876101289</a> [newegg.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Likewise ( but 4 handsets ) .
Model is this one : http : //www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx ? Item = N82E16876101289 [ newegg.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Likewise (but 4 handsets).
Model is this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16876101289 [newegg.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999462</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999936</id>
	<title>Microsoft Cordless Phone</title>
	<author>joeflies</author>
	<datestamp>1257416520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It was a product that was just a little ahead of its time for the home market, but it never really took off. Cool in concept, being able to listen to voicemail on pc or the phone.  If I remember correctly though, the downside for why I didn't buy one was that I wasn't leaving the computer on all day back then.

<a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20000301023950/http://www.microsoft.com/products/hardware/phone/default.htm" title="archive.org">Microsoft Cordless Phone</a> [archive.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>It was a product that was just a little ahead of its time for the home market , but it never really took off .
Cool in concept , being able to listen to voicemail on pc or the phone .
If I remember correctly though , the downside for why I did n't buy one was that I was n't leaving the computer on all day back then .
Microsoft Cordless Phone [ archive.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was a product that was just a little ahead of its time for the home market, but it never really took off.
Cool in concept, being able to listen to voicemail on pc or the phone.
If I remember correctly though, the downside for why I didn't buy one was that I wasn't leaving the computer on all day back then.
Microsoft Cordless Phone [archive.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30025428</id>
	<title>Siemens Gigset</title>
	<author>Jaseoldboss</author>
	<datestamp>1257677160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've got a Siemens Gigaset which connects to POTS and has SIP capability. You can download and upload the address book (slow) to each phone using a web control panel. I also have a SIP account, you can generally get these to email you voicemail.<br> <br>It syncs to a NTP time server and has a reasonably flexible dial plan which you can use to control which calls use SIP and which go via your landline. It also displays the local weather info on each handset. Unless you go for a full blown Asterisk setup a Gigaset is probably a good second.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got a Siemens Gigaset which connects to POTS and has SIP capability .
You can download and upload the address book ( slow ) to each phone using a web control panel .
I also have a SIP account , you can generally get these to email you voicemail .
It syncs to a NTP time server and has a reasonably flexible dial plan which you can use to control which calls use SIP and which go via your landline .
It also displays the local weather info on each handset .
Unless you go for a full blown Asterisk setup a Gigaset is probably a good second .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got a Siemens Gigaset which connects to POTS and has SIP capability.
You can download and upload the address book (slow) to each phone using a web control panel.
I also have a SIP account, you can generally get these to email you voicemail.
It syncs to a NTP time server and has a reasonably flexible dial plan which you can use to control which calls use SIP and which go via your landline.
It also displays the local weather info on each handset.
Unless you go for a full blown Asterisk setup a Gigaset is probably a good second.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30004552</id>
	<title>Defect or Feature?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257513420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The separation of phone books between handsets is a feature, not a defect.  Our home office handset stores business numbers, the bedroom handset stores personal numbers, and the teenager's handset stores her friends'.  Who wants to paw through dozens of 'jef's, 'bif's, and 'sean's to find 'law office'?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The separation of phone books between handsets is a feature , not a defect .
Our home office handset stores business numbers , the bedroom handset stores personal numbers , and the teenager 's handset stores her friends' .
Who wants to paw through dozens of 'jef 's , 'bif 's , and 'sean 's to find 'law office ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The separation of phone books between handsets is a feature, not a defect.
Our home office handset stores business numbers, the bedroom handset stores personal numbers, and the teenager's handset stores her friends'.
Who wants to paw through dozens of 'jef's, 'bif's, and 'sean's to find 'law office'?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30004384</id>
	<title>Re:Landline abandonment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257510540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not the 3-year-old who will have a hard time dialing out on a cell phone.  Kids pick up the new tech easily.  It's Grandma who's gonna be baffled.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not the 3-year-old who will have a hard time dialing out on a cell phone .
Kids pick up the new tech easily .
It 's Grandma who 's gon na be baffled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not the 3-year-old who will have a hard time dialing out on a cell phone.
Kids pick up the new tech easily.
It's Grandma who's gonna be baffled.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000018</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30004944</id>
	<title>Re:Why are you so backwards?</title>
	<author>sparky81</author>
	<datestamp>1257517920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How can you have a kid old enough to be left alone but not responsible enough to be trusted with a mobile?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How can you have a kid old enough to be left alone but not responsible enough to be trusted with a mobile ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How can you have a kid old enough to be left alone but not responsible enough to be trusted with a mobile?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000386</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001922</id>
	<title>Re:Why are you so backwards?</title>
	<author>jrumney</author>
	<datestamp>1257427800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Mobile phones are a lot of things, but being cheaper isn't one of them.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Depends where you are, and where you are calling to.  Most mobile phones are cheaper to call other mobile phones on the same network, and in my case, my mobile phone has cheaper international rates than my home phone - to the point where it isn't even worth setting up VOIP for international calls any more, I just use my mobile.
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mobile phones are a lot of things , but being cheaper is n't one of them .
Depends where you are , and where you are calling to .
Most mobile phones are cheaper to call other mobile phones on the same network , and in my case , my mobile phone has cheaper international rates than my home phone - to the point where it is n't even worth setting up VOIP for international calls any more , I just use my mobile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mobile phones are a lot of things, but being cheaper isn't one of them.
Depends where you are, and where you are calling to.
Most mobile phones are cheaper to call other mobile phones on the same network, and in my case, my mobile phone has cheaper international rates than my home phone - to the point where it isn't even worth setting up VOIP for international calls any more, I just use my mobile.

	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000332</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30002486</id>
	<title>Re:Landline abandonment</title>
	<author>japhering</author>
	<datestamp>1257433680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I see lots of people deciding they don't need a landline any more.  Well, for a single person or in the case where everyone in the house has a cell phone, that can work.  It works better when your wireless carrier has a WiFi component to their plan - although since they lose money by the fistful on these I would expect either the carrier or the plan to disappear.</p></div><p>Loose money ?!?   You've got to be kidding!  They make money by the fist full with almost no over head on their end.  The customer either pays extra for a wifi enabled phone and/or a home base station (the base stations run $100-$150) plus the customer pays another $15-$30 a month to use the bloody thing.   If the customer is using the base station, then all the traffic goes over the network providers network.. not the phone company network.    In the long run, the wifi system actually reduce the amount of traffic of the phone network.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I see lots of people deciding they do n't need a landline any more .
Well , for a single person or in the case where everyone in the house has a cell phone , that can work .
It works better when your wireless carrier has a WiFi component to their plan - although since they lose money by the fistful on these I would expect either the carrier or the plan to disappear.Loose money ? ! ?
You 've got to be kidding !
They make money by the fist full with almost no over head on their end .
The customer either pays extra for a wifi enabled phone and/or a home base station ( the base stations run $ 100- $ 150 ) plus the customer pays another $ 15- $ 30 a month to use the bloody thing .
If the customer is using the base station , then all the traffic goes over the network providers network.. not the phone company network .
In the long run , the wifi system actually reduce the amount of traffic of the phone network .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see lots of people deciding they don't need a landline any more.
Well, for a single person or in the case where everyone in the house has a cell phone, that can work.
It works better when your wireless carrier has a WiFi component to their plan - although since they lose money by the fistful on these I would expect either the carrier or the plan to disappear.Loose money ?!?
You've got to be kidding!
They make money by the fist full with almost no over head on their end.
The customer either pays extra for a wifi enabled phone and/or a home base station (the base stations run $100-$150) plus the customer pays another $15-$30 a month to use the bloody thing.
If the customer is using the base station, then all the traffic goes over the network providers network.. not the phone company network.
In the long run, the wifi system actually reduce the amount of traffic of the phone network.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000018</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999854</id>
	<title>Re:Regular phones are so backwards...</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1257416160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Too bad, because outside the cordless I have Cisco phones on a Asterisk box.  works ALL THE TIME as well, and my VoIP service never goes down unless internet is out, and if internet is out, then POTS phone is out too. (DSL is screwy that way)</p><p>the Cisco voip phones are incredible sounding.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Too bad , because outside the cordless I have Cisco phones on a Asterisk box .
works ALL THE TIME as well , and my VoIP service never goes down unless internet is out , and if internet is out , then POTS phone is out too .
( DSL is screwy that way ) the Cisco voip phones are incredible sounding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too bad, because outside the cordless I have Cisco phones on a Asterisk box.
works ALL THE TIME as well, and my VoIP service never goes down unless internet is out, and if internet is out, then POTS phone is out too.
(DSL is screwy that way)the Cisco voip phones are incredible sounding.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999440</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30001442</id>
	<title>Open Source Options</title>
	<author>anthm</author>
	<datestamp>1257423840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We have an Open Source project called FreeSWITCH <a href="http://www.freeswitch.org/" title="freeswitch.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.freeswitch.org/</a> [freeswitch.org] that allows you to do this sort of thing with any computer running Windows MAC or most UNIX.  It can be paired with traditional phones with a small analog adapter or a hardware telephony card from Sangoma <a href="http://www.sangoma.com./" title="www.sangoma.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sangoma.com./</a> [www.sangoma.com] But you could just get a software phone for free as well and play around with it.<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We have an Open Source project called FreeSWITCH http : //www.freeswitch.org/ [ freeswitch.org ] that allows you to do this sort of thing with any computer running Windows MAC or most UNIX .
It can be paired with traditional phones with a small analog adapter or a hardware telephony card from Sangoma http : //www.sangoma.com./ [ www.sangoma.com ] But you could just get a software phone for free as well and play around with it .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>We have an Open Source project called FreeSWITCH http://www.freeswitch.org/ [freeswitch.org] that allows you to do this sort of thing with any computer running Windows MAC or most UNIX.
It can be paired with traditional phones with a small analog adapter or a hardware telephony card from Sangoma http://www.sangoma.com./ [www.sangoma.com] But you could just get a software phone for free as well and play around with it.
 </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999716</id>
	<title>Re:no. it does not.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257415620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Microsoft had a 900 MHz phone a little over 10 years ago that did this and it worked really well for me until it was no longer supported when Windows 2000 came out.

You can read about it here <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft\_Cordless\_Phone\_System" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">here</a> [wikipedia.org].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft had a 900 MHz phone a little over 10 years ago that did this and it worked really well for me until it was no longer supported when Windows 2000 came out .
You can read about it here here [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft had a 900 MHz phone a little over 10 years ago that did this and it worked really well for me until it was no longer supported when Windows 2000 came out.
You can read about it here here [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999346</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999346</id>
	<title>no.  it does not.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257414060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>next question.</htmltext>
<tokenext>next question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>next question.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999782</id>
	<title>Re:Why are you so backwards?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257415860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mobil phones connect you to a person and landlines connect you to a place.  When you don't know who to talk to you call a place and ask them to help find the right person.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mobil phones connect you to a person and landlines connect you to a place .
When you do n't know who to talk to you call a place and ask them to help find the right person .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mobil phones connect you to a person and landlines connect you to a place.
When you don't know who to talk to you call a place and ask them to help find the right person.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999488</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999494</id>
	<title>Not For Consumers</title>
	<author>KBlommel</author>
	<datestamp>1257414660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately, no such beast exists in the consumer market.  For businesses, definitely.</p><p>The problem is, home phone systems are quickly becoming extinct.  The market for an advanced home phone system may have been there 5-10 years ago, but not today.  Cell phones have become so prevalent that most people under the age of 30 don't even get home phone service anymore.  Landline subscribers for all major phone companies keeps going down year after year.</p><p>Investing R&amp;D into an advanced home phone system would be equivalent to investing in a sharper color VHS technology.  There's no point.  This problem isn't the answer you wanted to hear, but it's the truth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , no such beast exists in the consumer market .
For businesses , definitely.The problem is , home phone systems are quickly becoming extinct .
The market for an advanced home phone system may have been there 5-10 years ago , but not today .
Cell phones have become so prevalent that most people under the age of 30 do n't even get home phone service anymore .
Landline subscribers for all major phone companies keeps going down year after year.Investing R&amp;D into an advanced home phone system would be equivalent to investing in a sharper color VHS technology .
There 's no point .
This problem is n't the answer you wanted to hear , but it 's the truth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, no such beast exists in the consumer market.
For businesses, definitely.The problem is, home phone systems are quickly becoming extinct.
The market for an advanced home phone system may have been there 5-10 years ago, but not today.
Cell phones have become so prevalent that most people under the age of 30 don't even get home phone service anymore.
Landline subscribers for all major phone companies keeps going down year after year.Investing R&amp;D into an advanced home phone system would be equivalent to investing in a sharper color VHS technology.
There's no point.
This problem isn't the answer you wanted to hear, but it's the truth.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999818</id>
	<title>My smartphone is my home phone</title>
	<author>frank249</author>
	<datestamp>1257416040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I finally realized that we did not need a home phone since everyone in my house had their own cell phone.  My Blackberry uses my wifi network when I am at home and for $15/month I have have unlimited local and long distance through the Rogers talkspot plan.  Now I don't miss any calls since there is only one number to reach me no matter where I am.  I even have a bluetooth handset phone that automatically connects when I am in the house.  Its great not having to answer the phone and find out the call was for my kids.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I finally realized that we did not need a home phone since everyone in my house had their own cell phone .
My Blackberry uses my wifi network when I am at home and for $ 15/month I have have unlimited local and long distance through the Rogers talkspot plan .
Now I do n't miss any calls since there is only one number to reach me no matter where I am .
I even have a bluetooth handset phone that automatically connects when I am in the house .
Its great not having to answer the phone and find out the call was for my kids .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I finally realized that we did not need a home phone since everyone in my house had their own cell phone.
My Blackberry uses my wifi network when I am at home and for $15/month I have have unlimited local and long distance through the Rogers talkspot plan.
Now I don't miss any calls since there is only one number to reach me no matter where I am.
I even have a bluetooth handset phone that automatically connects when I am in the house.
Its great not having to answer the phone and find out the call was for my kids.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999610</id>
	<title>Re:The overkill solution</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1257415080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or just get Google Voice and make your calls using the Web interface.  No need for an address book in the phone at all, and Google's done all the hard work for you.</p><p>Not as easy as a speed dial, but if you have a landline you might also be interested in saving the long distance charges...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or just get Google Voice and make your calls using the Web interface .
No need for an address book in the phone at all , and Google 's done all the hard work for you.Not as easy as a speed dial , but if you have a landline you might also be interested in saving the long distance charges.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or just get Google Voice and make your calls using the Web interface.
No need for an address book in the phone at all, and Google's done all the hard work for you.Not as easy as a speed dial, but if you have a landline you might also be interested in saving the long distance charges...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999428</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.30000140</id>
	<title>Re:Depends.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257417360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pots hardware, a generic VoIP provider, and a google voice number...  Done.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pots hardware , a generic VoIP provider , and a google voice number... Done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pots hardware, a generic VoIP provider, and a google voice number...  Done.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_05_2021254.29999474</parent>
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