<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_02_1821232</id>
	<title>Pirate Bay Closure Sparked P2P Explosion</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1257150120000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Barence writes to share that the closure of The Pirate Bay seems to have done nothing to stem the flow of potentially copyrighted materials.  In fact, there has been an estimated <a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/broadband/353011/pirate-bay-closure-sparked-p2p-mutiny">300\% increase in the number of sites providing access to copyright files</a>, according to McAfee.  <i>"In August, Swedish courts ordered that all traffic be blocked from Pirate Bay, but any hope of scotching the piracy of music, software and films over the web vanished as copycat sites sprung up and the content took on a life of its own.  'This was a true "cloud computing" effort,' the company said in its Threats Report for the third quarter. 'The masses stepped up to make this database of torrents available to others.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Barence writes to share that the closure of The Pirate Bay seems to have done nothing to stem the flow of potentially copyrighted materials .
In fact , there has been an estimated 300 \ % increase in the number of sites providing access to copyright files , according to McAfee .
" In August , Swedish courts ordered that all traffic be blocked from Pirate Bay , but any hope of scotching the piracy of music , software and films over the web vanished as copycat sites sprung up and the content took on a life of its own .
'This was a true " cloud computing " effort, ' the company said in its Threats Report for the third quarter .
'The masses stepped up to make this database of torrents available to others .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Barence writes to share that the closure of The Pirate Bay seems to have done nothing to stem the flow of potentially copyrighted materials.
In fact, there has been an estimated 300\% increase in the number of sites providing access to copyright files, according to McAfee.
"In August, Swedish courts ordered that all traffic be blocked from Pirate Bay, but any hope of scotching the piracy of music, software and films over the web vanished as copycat sites sprung up and the content took on a life of its own.
'This was a true "cloud computing" effort,' the company said in its Threats Report for the third quarter.
'The masses stepped up to make this database of torrents available to others.
'"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29958858</id>
	<title>Re:Eh Sonny?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257175560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>yeah.... it's like squeezing a big fat turd.  You need to pick it up gently as you bring it to your mouth and suck on it like a big black cock.</htmltext>
<tokenext>yeah.... it 's like squeezing a big fat turd .
You need to pick it up gently as you bring it to your mouth and suck on it like a big black cock .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yeah.... it's like squeezing a big fat turd.
You need to pick it up gently as you bring it to your mouth and suck on it like a big black cock.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954434</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29967874</id>
	<title>Re:Eh Sonny?</title>
	<author>marcosdumay</author>
	<datestamp>1257241380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That was Napster's line.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That was Napster 's line .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That was Napster's line.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954742</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955076</id>
	<title>Re:War on Drugs</title>
	<author>sponga</author>
	<datestamp>1257156960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Hi my names Frank and I am addicted to Britney Spears songs and having unlimited downloads"<br>Crowd : "HI FRANK!!"</p><p>*guy in the corner rocking back and forth nervously*<br>Frank : "whose that guy?"<br>Crowd : "oh that's Jim, ever since they closed down PirateBay he has never been the same"<br>Frank : "my god, what have they done!!"</p><p>*guy in the corner signals for Frank to come to him*<br>Frank : "hey whats up my names Frank"<br>Shady guy: "shhh they're listening!!!!"<br>Frank : "huh... Who?"<br>Shady guy : " The R....I...i..i... i....A...."<br>Jim : "AHHHH AHHHH AHHHH!!! DONT SAY IT!! NOOOOO"</p><p>Nurse : "DOCTOR!!! I need 2 minutes of USENET for him!!!"<br>Doctor: " For gods sake woman get out of the way!!! This man needs unfiltered internet access!!!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Hi my names Frank and I am addicted to Britney Spears songs and having unlimited downloads " Crowd : " HI FRANK ! !
" * guy in the corner rocking back and forth nervously * Frank : " whose that guy ?
" Crowd : " oh that 's Jim , ever since they closed down PirateBay he has never been the same " Frank : " my god , what have they done ! !
" * guy in the corner signals for Frank to come to him * Frank : " hey whats up my names Frank " Shady guy : " shhh they 're listening ! ! ! !
" Frank : " huh.. .
Who ? " Shady guy : " The R....I...i..i... i....A.... " Jim : " AHHHH AHHHH AHHHH ! ! !
DONT SAY IT ! !
NOOOOO " Nurse : " DOCTOR ! ! !
I need 2 minutes of USENET for him ! ! !
" Doctor : " For gods sake woman get out of the way ! ! !
This man needs unfiltered internet access ! ! !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Hi my names Frank and I am addicted to Britney Spears songs and having unlimited downloads"Crowd : "HI FRANK!!
"*guy in the corner rocking back and forth nervously*Frank : "whose that guy?
"Crowd : "oh that's Jim, ever since they closed down PirateBay he has never been the same"Frank : "my god, what have they done!!
"*guy in the corner signals for Frank to come to him*Frank : "hey whats up my names Frank"Shady guy: "shhh they're listening!!!!
"Frank : "huh...
Who?"Shady guy : " The R....I...i..i... i....A...."Jim : "AHHHH AHHHH AHHHH!!!
DONT SAY IT!!
NOOOOO"Nurse : "DOCTOR!!!
I need 2 minutes of USENET for him!!!
"Doctor: " For gods sake woman get out of the way!!!
This man needs unfiltered internet access!!!
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954598</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954918</id>
	<title>I don't think so</title>
	<author>AlgorithMan</author>
	<datestamp>1257156060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think growing need for anonymous P2P systems will lead to development of easier solutions. And if one day there are enough users to get bearable transfer-rates, then the media industry is done for...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think growing need for anonymous P2P systems will lead to development of easier solutions .
And if one day there are enough users to get bearable transfer-rates , then the media industry is done for.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think growing need for anonymous P2P systems will lead to development of easier solutions.
And if one day there are enough users to get bearable transfer-rates, then the media industry is done for...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954656</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29957318</id>
	<title>In other news...</title>
	<author>Nekomusume</author>
	<datestamp>1257168240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Water is still wet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Water is still wet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Water is still wet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954520</id>
	<title>In other news</title>
	<author>FlyingBishop</author>
	<datestamp>1257154140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have feverishly been engaged in whacking moles, and cannot for the life of me comprehend why they continue to pop up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have feverishly been engaged in whacking moles , and can not for the life of me comprehend why they continue to pop up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have feverishly been engaged in whacking moles, and cannot for the life of me comprehend why they continue to pop up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954558</id>
	<title>Pirate Bay is closed?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257154380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Certainly does not look dead yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Certainly does not look dead yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Certainly does not look dead yet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29959782</id>
	<title>Re:Yep</title>
	<author>CSMatt</author>
	<datestamp>1257183000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I think every country should adopt a new clause in their constitution; the "Stupid Ideas Tried Before Clause" that would have anyone who passes a law to try a scheme proven one or more times to be unenforceable to be removed from office permanently.</p></div><p>At best there wouldn't be anyone left in office.  At worst, you will have multitudes of politicians declaring "This is different!  Things will be different this time!" because inevitably the opposition will invoke this clause every chance they can, regardless of justification.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think every country should adopt a new clause in their constitution ; the " Stupid Ideas Tried Before Clause " that would have anyone who passes a law to try a scheme proven one or more times to be unenforceable to be removed from office permanently.At best there would n't be anyone left in office .
At worst , you will have multitudes of politicians declaring " This is different !
Things will be different this time !
" because inevitably the opposition will invoke this clause every chance they can , regardless of justification .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think every country should adopt a new clause in their constitution; the "Stupid Ideas Tried Before Clause" that would have anyone who passes a law to try a scheme proven one or more times to be unenforceable to be removed from office permanently.At best there wouldn't be anyone left in office.
At worst, you will have multitudes of politicians declaring "This is different!
Things will be different this time!
" because inevitably the opposition will invoke this clause every chance they can, regardless of justification.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954676</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29966108</id>
	<title>Sell me the Thing, not the Format</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257275640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The industry wants to sell you a movie on DVD and then sell you again the same movie on BlueRay and then sell you a digital copy... The same thing for music, they want to sell you a copy of a song that will only play on one player and you buy it again to play on another or in a higher quality format.  This is bull.  I bought the movie, or the song, or the game, not the format it is in.  If I already purchased a movie on DVD I should be able to get it again on BlueRay for a small fee related to the cost of materials, and I should be able to legally download a digital copy from anywhere I choose.  If I bought a song on Itunes, I should get it legally free to play on any other player.  I should even be able to get it in Guitar Hero for a small fee related to the cost of conversion into that format.  I'd even say that if I bought a game for 360 I should be able to get a PS3 copy for cost of burning the BlueRay.  There should be a database that knows what I purchased and lets me conveniently get whatever I bought in whatever format I want.</p><p>What good would this do?  It would get the people that are willing to pay back in the game.  They don't have to worry about their computer crashing and losing all of their music.  Broken discs easily replaced.  No problems if they suddenly come out with a new and better format.  So your going to say the downside is that nothing is stopping someone from getting extra copies and giving them to friends or selling them.  Well, nothing is stopping them now.  Those friends would not have been paying customers anyway.  And I believe it would promote a culture where people pay for digital media again, since it would be so convenient for the consumer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The industry wants to sell you a movie on DVD and then sell you again the same movie on BlueRay and then sell you a digital copy... The same thing for music , they want to sell you a copy of a song that will only play on one player and you buy it again to play on another or in a higher quality format .
This is bull .
I bought the movie , or the song , or the game , not the format it is in .
If I already purchased a movie on DVD I should be able to get it again on BlueRay for a small fee related to the cost of materials , and I should be able to legally download a digital copy from anywhere I choose .
If I bought a song on Itunes , I should get it legally free to play on any other player .
I should even be able to get it in Guitar Hero for a small fee related to the cost of conversion into that format .
I 'd even say that if I bought a game for 360 I should be able to get a PS3 copy for cost of burning the BlueRay .
There should be a database that knows what I purchased and lets me conveniently get whatever I bought in whatever format I want.What good would this do ?
It would get the people that are willing to pay back in the game .
They do n't have to worry about their computer crashing and losing all of their music .
Broken discs easily replaced .
No problems if they suddenly come out with a new and better format .
So your going to say the downside is that nothing is stopping someone from getting extra copies and giving them to friends or selling them .
Well , nothing is stopping them now .
Those friends would not have been paying customers anyway .
And I believe it would promote a culture where people pay for digital media again , since it would be so convenient for the consumer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The industry wants to sell you a movie on DVD and then sell you again the same movie on BlueRay and then sell you a digital copy... The same thing for music, they want to sell you a copy of a song that will only play on one player and you buy it again to play on another or in a higher quality format.
This is bull.
I bought the movie, or the song, or the game, not the format it is in.
If I already purchased a movie on DVD I should be able to get it again on BlueRay for a small fee related to the cost of materials, and I should be able to legally download a digital copy from anywhere I choose.
If I bought a song on Itunes, I should get it legally free to play on any other player.
I should even be able to get it in Guitar Hero for a small fee related to the cost of conversion into that format.
I'd even say that if I bought a game for 360 I should be able to get a PS3 copy for cost of burning the BlueRay.
There should be a database that knows what I purchased and lets me conveniently get whatever I bought in whatever format I want.What good would this do?
It would get the people that are willing to pay back in the game.
They don't have to worry about their computer crashing and losing all of their music.
Broken discs easily replaced.
No problems if they suddenly come out with a new and better format.
So your going to say the downside is that nothing is stopping someone from getting extra copies and giving them to friends or selling them.
Well, nothing is stopping them now.
Those friends would not have been paying customers anyway.
And I believe it would promote a culture where people pay for digital media again, since it would be so convenient for the consumer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955946</id>
	<title>Hey!  60 Minutes Says this is ORGANIZED CRIME!</title>
	<author>MarkvW</author>
	<datestamp>1257160680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>60 Minutes, in one of the most slanted pieces I have ever seen, said that these pirates are organized criminals.</p><p>We've gotta stop them.  Hollywood says so!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>60 Minutes , in one of the most slanted pieces I have ever seen , said that these pirates are organized criminals.We 've got ta stop them .
Hollywood says so !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>60 Minutes, in one of the most slanted pieces I have ever seen, said that these pirates are organized criminals.We've gotta stop them.
Hollywood says so!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29956426</id>
	<title>Re:Streisand Effect?</title>
	<author>PRMan</author>
	<datestamp>1257163140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's a "Hulu"?</p><p>Is that the thing that used to work on my PS3?</p><p>Can't say as how I even remember anymore...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's a " Hulu " ? Is that the thing that used to work on my PS3 ? Ca n't say as how I even remember anymore.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's a "Hulu"?Is that the thing that used to work on my PS3?Can't say as how I even remember anymore...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954562</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954992</id>
	<title>Re:War on Drugs</title>
	<author>BenBoy</author>
	<datestamp>1257156420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kinda like having a war on dandelions by goin' out and kicking them every spring. "Hey, what are those floaty things?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kinda like having a war on dandelions by goin ' out and kicking them every spring .
" Hey , what are those floaty things ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kinda like having a war on dandelions by goin' out and kicking them every spring.
"Hey, what are those floaty things?
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954598</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29957950</id>
	<title>Re:The problem are Theaters</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257170820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>His sweatshirt said "My Dick Tastes Like Chapstick"</p></div><p>I didnt know someone that fat could suck their own dick.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>His sweatshirt said " My Dick Tastes Like Chapstick " I didnt know someone that fat could suck their own dick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>His sweatshirt said "My Dick Tastes Like Chapstick"I didnt know someone that fat could suck their own dick.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955050</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29956242</id>
	<title>Re:duh...</title>
	<author>Kenoli</author>
	<datestamp>1257162120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can't stop culture, but you can sue it!</htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't stop culture , but you can sue it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't stop culture, but you can sue it!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955104</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29959494</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257180480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have the same concerns. I unfortunately have many friends who are exactly like the Slashdot crowd -- technology enthusiasts who take it as a right to pirate whatever they wish. I develop small scale software for a living, and that attitude is endemic. The sense of entitlement to what took thousands of hours and years of my life to create is breathtaking...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have the same concerns .
I unfortunately have many friends who are exactly like the Slashdot crowd -- technology enthusiasts who take it as a right to pirate whatever they wish .
I develop small scale software for a living , and that attitude is endemic .
The sense of entitlement to what took thousands of hours and years of my life to create is breathtaking.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have the same concerns.
I unfortunately have many friends who are exactly like the Slashdot crowd -- technology enthusiasts who take it as a right to pirate whatever they wish.
I develop small scale software for a living, and that attitude is endemic.
The sense of entitlement to what took thousands of hours and years of my life to create is breathtaking...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29956694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29957516</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>skornenicholas</author>
	<datestamp>1257169020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You have a point going on here but you stopped your analogy too SOON. The music industry is indeed like the beer industry, and the beer industry has seen the resurgence of microbrewery's and why is this? Microbreweries having been churning out better and more unique beer more and more over the past ten years. and the major beer corporations are being chipped down from being mountains to nice sized hills and the rest of the valley filled in by the little guys. Love it or hate it, Myspace, Facebook, Youtube, these services have functioned as independent record labels, the internet has given a large portion of people the ability to produce, record, market, and SELL there music with very little overhead.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You have a point going on here but you stopped your analogy too SOON .
The music industry is indeed like the beer industry , and the beer industry has seen the resurgence of microbrewery 's and why is this ?
Microbreweries having been churning out better and more unique beer more and more over the past ten years .
and the major beer corporations are being chipped down from being mountains to nice sized hills and the rest of the valley filled in by the little guys .
Love it or hate it , Myspace , Facebook , Youtube , these services have functioned as independent record labels , the internet has given a large portion of people the ability to produce , record , market , and SELL there music with very little overhead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have a point going on here but you stopped your analogy too SOON.
The music industry is indeed like the beer industry, and the beer industry has seen the resurgence of microbrewery's and why is this?
Microbreweries having been churning out better and more unique beer more and more over the past ten years.
and the major beer corporations are being chipped down from being mountains to nice sized hills and the rest of the valley filled in by the little guys.
Love it or hate it, Myspace, Facebook, Youtube, these services have functioned as independent record labels, the internet has given a large portion of people the ability to produce, record, market, and SELL there music with very little overhead.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955978</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29958734</id>
	<title>Sandworms and trout</title>
	<author>NuShrike</author>
	<datestamp>1257174840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've always been calling this the Sand-trout effect, as described by Frank Herbert.  Many sand-trout form one giant collective aka the Worm (TPB, suprnova, mininova, etc etc), but as soon as you try to kill it, the collective scatters and form new Worms using the former as a template.</p><p>It's the same as when you tried to strike down terrorism by smacking down Iraq.</p><p>The Worm is immortal and cannot be destroyed.  Once the genie is out<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've always been calling this the Sand-trout effect , as described by Frank Herbert .
Many sand-trout form one giant collective aka the Worm ( TPB , suprnova , mininova , etc etc ) , but as soon as you try to kill it , the collective scatters and form new Worms using the former as a template.It 's the same as when you tried to strike down terrorism by smacking down Iraq.The Worm is immortal and can not be destroyed .
Once the genie is out .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've always been calling this the Sand-trout effect, as described by Frank Herbert.
Many sand-trout form one giant collective aka the Worm (TPB, suprnova, mininova, etc etc), but as soon as you try to kill it, the collective scatters and form new Worms using the former as a template.It's the same as when you tried to strike down terrorism by smacking down Iraq.The Worm is immortal and cannot be destroyed.
Once the genie is out ...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954792</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29961210</id>
	<title>You don't need The Pirate Bay or BitTorrent</title>
	<author>Orion Blastar</author>
	<datestamp>1257241800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You want free videos:</p><p><a href="http://www.tioti.com/" title="tioti.com">http://www.tioti.com/</a> [tioti.com]<br><a href="http://quicksilverscreen.com/" title="quicksilverscreen.com">http://quicksilverscreen.com/</a> [quicksilverscreen.com]<br><a href="http://www.veoh.com/" title="veoh.com">http://www.veoh.com/</a> [veoh.com]<br><a href="http://www.hulu.com/" title="hulu.com">http://www.hulu.com/</a> [hulu.com]<br><a href="http://www.alluc.org/" title="alluc.org">http://www.alluc.org/</a> [alluc.org]<br><a href="http://www.sidereel.com/\_home" title="sidereel.com">http://www.sidereel.com/\_home</a> [sidereel.com]<br><a href="http://alloftv.net/" title="alloftv.net">http://alloftv.net/</a> [alloftv.net]<br><a href="http://www.4kidstv.com/" title="4kidstv.com">http://www.4kidstv.com/</a> [4kidstv.com]</p><p>I haven't checked them all but most of them I checked were legal, and Quicksilverscreen and TIOTI are people that share their videos via the web site that may be grayware and not 100\% legal but it is like them taping a VHS tape and sharing it with you.</p><p><a href="http://www.goingware.com/tips/legal-downloads.html" title="goingware.com">here is a link to tens of thousands of free music links</a> [goingware.com] mostly by third party artists who don't have a distributor and share their music via the Internet.</p><p>If you are going to use BitTorrent why not <a href="http://newteevee.com/2007/03/03/ten-sites-for-free-and-legal-torrents/" title="newteevee.com">find free and legal torrents to use with it</a> [newteevee.com] and avoid the piracy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You want free videos : http : //www.tioti.com/ [ tioti.com ] http : //quicksilverscreen.com/ [ quicksilverscreen.com ] http : //www.veoh.com/ [ veoh.com ] http : //www.hulu.com/ [ hulu.com ] http : //www.alluc.org/ [ alluc.org ] http : //www.sidereel.com/ \ _home [ sidereel.com ] http : //alloftv.net/ [ alloftv.net ] http : //www.4kidstv.com/ [ 4kidstv.com ] I have n't checked them all but most of them I checked were legal , and Quicksilverscreen and TIOTI are people that share their videos via the web site that may be grayware and not 100 \ % legal but it is like them taping a VHS tape and sharing it with you.here is a link to tens of thousands of free music links [ goingware.com ] mostly by third party artists who do n't have a distributor and share their music via the Internet.If you are going to use BitTorrent why not find free and legal torrents to use with it [ newteevee.com ] and avoid the piracy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You want free videos:http://www.tioti.com/ [tioti.com]http://quicksilverscreen.com/ [quicksilverscreen.com]http://www.veoh.com/ [veoh.com]http://www.hulu.com/ [hulu.com]http://www.alluc.org/ [alluc.org]http://www.sidereel.com/\_home [sidereel.com]http://alloftv.net/ [alloftv.net]http://www.4kidstv.com/ [4kidstv.com]I haven't checked them all but most of them I checked were legal, and Quicksilverscreen and TIOTI are people that share their videos via the web site that may be grayware and not 100\% legal but it is like them taping a VHS tape and sharing it with you.here is a link to tens of thousands of free music links [goingware.com] mostly by third party artists who don't have a distributor and share their music via the Internet.If you are going to use BitTorrent why not find free and legal torrents to use with it [newteevee.com] and avoid the piracy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954878</id>
	<title>Re:War on Drugs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257155880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can't compare the drugs to piracy.</p><p>Worst case scenario if piracy continues unchecked is that content starts degrading in quality as producers start feeling the financial pinch.</p><p>Worst case scenario if hard drug use continues to grow unchecked is a decline in civilized society....hard drug use must be limited if society is to prosper.  I firmly believe that all efforts to minimize addictive drug use are worthy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't compare the drugs to piracy.Worst case scenario if piracy continues unchecked is that content starts degrading in quality as producers start feeling the financial pinch.Worst case scenario if hard drug use continues to grow unchecked is a decline in civilized society....hard drug use must be limited if society is to prosper .
I firmly believe that all efforts to minimize addictive drug use are worthy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't compare the drugs to piracy.Worst case scenario if piracy continues unchecked is that content starts degrading in quality as producers start feeling the financial pinch.Worst case scenario if hard drug use continues to grow unchecked is a decline in civilized society....hard drug use must be limited if society is to prosper.
I firmly believe that all efforts to minimize addictive drug use are worthy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954562</id>
	<title>Re:Streisand Effect?</title>
	<author>MightyMartian</author>
	<datestamp>1257154380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think so.  I think it's more an effect of people perceiving a shrinking supply of working and secure P2P solutions, so going on like great guns to where they know they can get their free stuff.  It may actually be the great irony of anti-P2P initiatives that they do precisely the worst thing from the persepective of the battle, creating an artificial economic scarcity which drives up demand.</p><p>You just gotta watch these guys in their war on the pirates.  It's becoming clearer and clearer that it's their own house they're setting on fire.  Even when one of them comes up a good idea like Hulu, they sabotage it by allowing it only in one jurisdiction, fueling demand but refusing to cater to it.  The media companies are like giants straddling a line between pre-file sharing and post-file sharing.  They understand that they need to adapt to survive, but they seem incapable of taking the necessary big step out of Ye Olden Days, and fully modernize.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think so .
I think it 's more an effect of people perceiving a shrinking supply of working and secure P2P solutions , so going on like great guns to where they know they can get their free stuff .
It may actually be the great irony of anti-P2P initiatives that they do precisely the worst thing from the persepective of the battle , creating an artificial economic scarcity which drives up demand.You just got ta watch these guys in their war on the pirates .
It 's becoming clearer and clearer that it 's their own house they 're setting on fire .
Even when one of them comes up a good idea like Hulu , they sabotage it by allowing it only in one jurisdiction , fueling demand but refusing to cater to it .
The media companies are like giants straddling a line between pre-file sharing and post-file sharing .
They understand that they need to adapt to survive , but they seem incapable of taking the necessary big step out of Ye Olden Days , and fully modernize .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think so.
I think it's more an effect of people perceiving a shrinking supply of working and secure P2P solutions, so going on like great guns to where they know they can get their free stuff.
It may actually be the great irony of anti-P2P initiatives that they do precisely the worst thing from the persepective of the battle, creating an artificial economic scarcity which drives up demand.You just gotta watch these guys in their war on the pirates.
It's becoming clearer and clearer that it's their own house they're setting on fire.
Even when one of them comes up a good idea like Hulu, they sabotage it by allowing it only in one jurisdiction, fueling demand but refusing to cater to it.
The media companies are like giants straddling a line between pre-file sharing and post-file sharing.
They understand that they need to adapt to survive, but they seem incapable of taking the necessary big step out of Ye Olden Days, and fully modernize.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29960006</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Iori Branford</author>
	<datestamp>1257184800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you are in this for the money, go to where the money is: consoles with proprietary hardware protection, MMOs and other online games requiring connection with central servers, or some other model which is hard-to-pirate by nature.</p><p>I have long since realized that my NES and Genesis type game ideas won't stand a gnat's chance in today's market. I'm not even sure how far they'll get me in a job interview. What keeps me from giving up is that I just fucking want to do them, and I want to entertain people with them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you are in this for the money , go to where the money is : consoles with proprietary hardware protection , MMOs and other online games requiring connection with central servers , or some other model which is hard-to-pirate by nature.I have long since realized that my NES and Genesis type game ideas wo n't stand a gnat 's chance in today 's market .
I 'm not even sure how far they 'll get me in a job interview .
What keeps me from giving up is that I just fucking want to do them , and I want to entertain people with them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you are in this for the money, go to where the money is: consoles with proprietary hardware protection, MMOs and other online games requiring connection with central servers, or some other model which is hard-to-pirate by nature.I have long since realized that my NES and Genesis type game ideas won't stand a gnat's chance in today's market.
I'm not even sure how far they'll get me in a job interview.
What keeps me from giving up is that I just fucking want to do them, and I want to entertain people with them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954808</id>
	<title>Re:Buzzwords, because thinking is hard</title>
	<author>megamerican</author>
	<datestamp>1257155460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"No officer, I'm not naked. I'm a trend setter in cloud clothing. That man over there is wearing pants for me. Honest."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" No officer , I 'm not naked .
I 'm a trend setter in cloud clothing .
That man over there is wearing pants for me .
Honest. "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"No officer, I'm not naked.
I'm a trend setter in cloud clothing.
That man over there is wearing pants for me.
Honest."</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29956692</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>Runaway1956</author>
	<datestamp>1257164760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes.  And?  80\% of the world's population cheers the pirates.  So, you point is, what?  You think that when something is right, when that something is overwhelmingly approved around the world, Slashdot should kowtow to the corporate weenies?  Are nerds and geeks supposed to be stupid, or what?</p><p>Let me help you to understand:  the movie moguls and the music studios are STILL MAKING MONEY!!  They are making so much money that they can afford to support the ineffectual RIAA and MPAA.  What more evidence do you need to convince you that piracy is good for Hollywood and good for the studios?  Just how many millions have they dumped down the gullets of the RIAA vultures, and the MPAA hyenas?  What has been the return on those millions?  Maybe - just maybe<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.00000001\%?</p><p>Aye, matey, it's the pirate life for me!!  Do you need me to rip something for you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
And ? 80 \ % of the world 's population cheers the pirates .
So , you point is , what ?
You think that when something is right , when that something is overwhelmingly approved around the world , Slashdot should kowtow to the corporate weenies ?
Are nerds and geeks supposed to be stupid , or what ? Let me help you to understand : the movie moguls and the music studios are STILL MAKING MONEY ! !
They are making so much money that they can afford to support the ineffectual RIAA and MPAA .
What more evidence do you need to convince you that piracy is good for Hollywood and good for the studios ?
Just how many millions have they dumped down the gullets of the RIAA vultures , and the MPAA hyenas ?
What has been the return on those millions ?
Maybe - just maybe .00000001 \ % ? Aye , matey , it 's the pirate life for me ! !
Do you need me to rip something for you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
And?  80\% of the world's population cheers the pirates.
So, you point is, what?
You think that when something is right, when that something is overwhelmingly approved around the world, Slashdot should kowtow to the corporate weenies?
Are nerds and geeks supposed to be stupid, or what?Let me help you to understand:  the movie moguls and the music studios are STILL MAKING MONEY!!
They are making so much money that they can afford to support the ineffectual RIAA and MPAA.
What more evidence do you need to convince you that piracy is good for Hollywood and good for the studios?
Just how many millions have they dumped down the gullets of the RIAA vultures, and the MPAA hyenas?
What has been the return on those millions?
Maybe - just maybe .00000001\%?Aye, matey, it's the pirate life for me!!
Do you need me to rip something for you?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29959028</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257176400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a scribe attempting to earn a living by copying manuscripts and selling them to consumers, it pains me to hear so many of these responses. Sometimes, when I visit a local inn, I wonder why I try at all. So many of the speakers here believe that they have a right to get copies of my work for free, even though it takes years to construct it. Financially, I see no way to continue my work unless I can earn money by selling copies. The words here scare me. It's like someone wrapping their hands around my throat and gleefully choking me, while discussing how happy they will be to dance on my grave. I copy words that people like. I work hard at it, and I love what I do. But, the responses of so many people here are just scary. I am blamed for all kinds of imagined harms committed against them. I'm just a guy working and trying to earn a living from it, but somehow that gets turned into "they are 'robin hood' and I am the evil governor inflicting taxes on them".</p><p>I'm not entirely surprised. Inn-goers regularly tell stories who's purpose is to inflame people. In that sense, I see this inn as another biased town crier that tries to control and manipulate people, turning them against those of us who survive on copyright. Many times, I have wondered to what extent groups like the Gutenberg Press have infiltrated public inns like this in order to control and manipulate what people hear, to "guide" them to some predefined conclusion.</p><p>But, economically, the situation cannot sustain itself. When I hear so many of these comments, it makes me want to leave the scribing industry because too many printers are working too hard to undercut our ability to earn a living from our hard work. So many people here seem to want to bloodbath, and I'm the intended victim. My crime is that I won't give away years of work for free, but, somehow, people have constructed all kinds of imaginary crimes to legitimize their actions. I don't know what to think of people anymore. I'm doubting that it's even worth trying anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a scribe attempting to earn a living by copying manuscripts and selling them to consumers , it pains me to hear so many of these responses .
Sometimes , when I visit a local inn , I wonder why I try at all .
So many of the speakers here believe that they have a right to get copies of my work for free , even though it takes years to construct it .
Financially , I see no way to continue my work unless I can earn money by selling copies .
The words here scare me .
It 's like someone wrapping their hands around my throat and gleefully choking me , while discussing how happy they will be to dance on my grave .
I copy words that people like .
I work hard at it , and I love what I do .
But , the responses of so many people here are just scary .
I am blamed for all kinds of imagined harms committed against them .
I 'm just a guy working and trying to earn a living from it , but somehow that gets turned into " they are 'robin hood ' and I am the evil governor inflicting taxes on them " .I 'm not entirely surprised .
Inn-goers regularly tell stories who 's purpose is to inflame people .
In that sense , I see this inn as another biased town crier that tries to control and manipulate people , turning them against those of us who survive on copyright .
Many times , I have wondered to what extent groups like the Gutenberg Press have infiltrated public inns like this in order to control and manipulate what people hear , to " guide " them to some predefined conclusion.But , economically , the situation can not sustain itself .
When I hear so many of these comments , it makes me want to leave the scribing industry because too many printers are working too hard to undercut our ability to earn a living from our hard work .
So many people here seem to want to bloodbath , and I 'm the intended victim .
My crime is that I wo n't give away years of work for free , but , somehow , people have constructed all kinds of imaginary crimes to legitimize their actions .
I do n't know what to think of people anymore .
I 'm doubting that it 's even worth trying anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a scribe attempting to earn a living by copying manuscripts and selling them to consumers, it pains me to hear so many of these responses.
Sometimes, when I visit a local inn, I wonder why I try at all.
So many of the speakers here believe that they have a right to get copies of my work for free, even though it takes years to construct it.
Financially, I see no way to continue my work unless I can earn money by selling copies.
The words here scare me.
It's like someone wrapping their hands around my throat and gleefully choking me, while discussing how happy they will be to dance on my grave.
I copy words that people like.
I work hard at it, and I love what I do.
But, the responses of so many people here are just scary.
I am blamed for all kinds of imagined harms committed against them.
I'm just a guy working and trying to earn a living from it, but somehow that gets turned into "they are 'robin hood' and I am the evil governor inflicting taxes on them".I'm not entirely surprised.
Inn-goers regularly tell stories who's purpose is to inflame people.
In that sense, I see this inn as another biased town crier that tries to control and manipulate people, turning them against those of us who survive on copyright.
Many times, I have wondered to what extent groups like the Gutenberg Press have infiltrated public inns like this in order to control and manipulate what people hear, to "guide" them to some predefined conclusion.But, economically, the situation cannot sustain itself.
When I hear so many of these comments, it makes me want to leave the scribing industry because too many printers are working too hard to undercut our ability to earn a living from our hard work.
So many people here seem to want to bloodbath, and I'm the intended victim.
My crime is that I won't give away years of work for free, but, somehow, people have constructed all kinds of imaginary crimes to legitimize their actions.
I don't know what to think of people anymore.
I'm doubting that it's even worth trying anymore.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29966122</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>Golddess</author>
	<datestamp>1257275700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>they buy off the radio stations</p></div><p>Wrong direction for the flow of money.  The radio stations aren't getting money to play specific songs, they're <i>paying</i> money for the <i>privilege</i> of playing those songs.<br>
<br>
Or are we talking about two different things?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>they buy off the radio stationsWrong direction for the flow of money .
The radio stations are n't getting money to play specific songs , they 're paying money for the privilege of playing those songs .
Or are we talking about two different things ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they buy off the radio stationsWrong direction for the flow of money.
The radio stations aren't getting money to play specific songs, they're paying money for the privilege of playing those songs.
Or are we talking about two different things?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955244</id>
	<title>Re:War on Drugs</title>
	<author>Smegly</author>
	<datestamp>1257157560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is similarly ineffective as going after drug dealers. This addresses the symptoms, but not the underlying causes.</p></div><p>Correct. But, like the war on drugs <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War\_on\_drugs#Efficacy" title="wikipedia.org">charade</a> [wikipedia.org] - it may start out with the "good intention" of stopping the undesirable thing, but before long cracking down and policing the controls will take on a life (and more importantly, budget) of its own. Then it does not matter if it is effective or not - as long as it seems to be effective to avoid massive outrage, and funding is continuously made available for those running the show to profit from it.  With cracking down on P2P, one of the added extra benefit's for those in power to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HADOPI\_law" title="wikipedia.org">kick anyone they like off the net without due process</a> [wikipedia.org] - a powerful weapon in the censorship arsenal.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is similarly ineffective as going after drug dealers .
This addresses the symptoms , but not the underlying causes.Correct .
But , like the war on drugs charade [ wikipedia.org ] - it may start out with the " good intention " of stopping the undesirable thing , but before long cracking down and policing the controls will take on a life ( and more importantly , budget ) of its own .
Then it does not matter if it is effective or not - as long as it seems to be effective to avoid massive outrage , and funding is continuously made available for those running the show to profit from it .
With cracking down on P2P , one of the added extra benefit 's for those in power to kick anyone they like off the net without due process [ wikipedia.org ] - a powerful weapon in the censorship arsenal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is similarly ineffective as going after drug dealers.
This addresses the symptoms, but not the underlying causes.Correct.
But, like the war on drugs charade [wikipedia.org] - it may start out with the "good intention" of stopping the undesirable thing, but before long cracking down and policing the controls will take on a life (and more importantly, budget) of its own.
Then it does not matter if it is effective or not - as long as it seems to be effective to avoid massive outrage, and funding is continuously made available for those running the show to profit from it.
With cracking down on P2P, one of the added extra benefit's for those in power to kick anyone they like off the net without due process [wikipedia.org] - a powerful weapon in the censorship arsenal.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955066</id>
	<title>Re:Eh Sonny?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257156960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Routing around damage yet again</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Routing around damage yet again</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Routing around damage yet again</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955982</id>
	<title>well then...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257160860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just use google now to search for whatever media I'm looking for,(with a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.TOR on the end)</p><p>Maybe the studio ass-hats will shut down google. har har.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just use google now to search for whatever media I 'm looking for , ( with a .TOR on the end ) Maybe the studio ass-hats will shut down google .
har har .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just use google now to search for whatever media I'm looking for,(with a .TOR on the end)Maybe the studio ass-hats will shut down google.
har har.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29959442</id>
	<title>the onion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257180060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>there seems to be a subplot at play here. world goverments are fanning the flames of this issue to reign in the net. the goal is total control of all information. terrorism, piracy, child porn, etc.. are just the means to an end. dpi and the eventual outlawing of unapproved (ie unlicensed) encrypted communications are the obvious answers to these 21st century boogeymen. this is why the judical system hasn't bitch slapped the 'AAs and never will. piracy is just a convient problem that demands the strictest network monitoring. i bet in ten years the net will be nothing like it is today. kiss it bye bye.</htmltext>
<tokenext>there seems to be a subplot at play here .
world goverments are fanning the flames of this issue to reign in the net .
the goal is total control of all information .
terrorism , piracy , child porn , etc.. are just the means to an end .
dpi and the eventual outlawing of unapproved ( ie unlicensed ) encrypted communications are the obvious answers to these 21st century boogeymen .
this is why the judical system has n't bitch slapped the 'AAs and never will .
piracy is just a convient problem that demands the strictest network monitoring .
i bet in ten years the net will be nothing like it is today .
kiss it bye bye .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there seems to be a subplot at play here.
world goverments are fanning the flames of this issue to reign in the net.
the goal is total control of all information.
terrorism, piracy, child porn, etc.. are just the means to an end.
dpi and the eventual outlawing of unapproved (ie unlicensed) encrypted communications are the obvious answers to these 21st century boogeymen.
this is why the judical system hasn't bitch slapped the 'AAs and never will.
piracy is just a convient problem that demands the strictest network monitoring.
i bet in ten years the net will be nothing like it is today.
kiss it bye bye.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29958992</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257176220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would ask who exactly you think is pirating your work. Do you think the people copying your work are people that would be paying for it normally? I would guess that the people that do the majority of pirating are people without enough money to buy your software in the first place.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would ask who exactly you think is pirating your work .
Do you think the people copying your work are people that would be paying for it normally ?
I would guess that the people that do the majority of pirating are people without enough money to buy your software in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would ask who exactly you think is pirating your work.
Do you think the people copying your work are people that would be paying for it normally?
I would guess that the people that do the majority of pirating are people without enough money to buy your software in the first place.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29971888</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>NotBornYesterday</author>
	<datestamp>1257256860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, we're both right<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... radio stations <i>do</i>pay royalties.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , we 're both right ... radio stations dopay royalties .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, we're both right ... radio stations dopay royalties.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954434</id>
	<title>Eh Sonny?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257153840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>"The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The more you tighten your grip , Tarkin , the more star systems will slip through your fingers .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29957272</id>
	<title>Pirate Bay opponents never watched Star Wars</title>
	<author>jfb3</author>
	<datestamp>1257168000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"If you kill me now I will be more powerful then you ever will be."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" If you kill me now I will be more powerful then you ever will be .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"If you kill me now I will be more powerful then you ever will be.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954998</id>
	<title>Re:it's almost like...</title>
	<author>Grishnakh</author>
	<datestamp>1257156480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's good for the goose is good for the gander.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's good for the goose is good for the gander .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's good for the goose is good for the gander.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955446</id>
	<title>What will really end this...</title>
	<author>berryjw</author>
	<datestamp>1257158400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>is when the kids who've grown up using p2p start writing the rules.  We're not that far off from politicians being able to get elected on a p2p stance.  Once that happens, the era of Michael Rodent *finally* dies, and we might see something resembling sane copyright law.  But that's what it's going to take: there's *no* $$ in supporting this change, and huge amounts of it in the 'AAs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>is when the kids who 've grown up using p2p start writing the rules .
We 're not that far off from politicians being able to get elected on a p2p stance .
Once that happens , the era of Michael Rodent * finally * dies , and we might see something resembling sane copyright law .
But that 's what it 's going to take : there 's * no * $ $ in supporting this change , and huge amounts of it in the 'AAs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is when the kids who've grown up using p2p start writing the rules.
We're not that far off from politicians being able to get elected on a p2p stance.
Once that happens, the era of Michael Rodent *finally* dies, and we might see something resembling sane copyright law.
But that's what it's going to take: there's *no* $$ in supporting this change, and huge amounts of it in the 'AAs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954904</id>
	<title>Re:Solving the wrong problem?</title>
	<author>MickyTheIdiot</author>
	<datestamp>1257155940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>accept this would involve innovation... and that's soooo hard! (in Barbie's 'Math is Hard' voice)</p><p>The one of the thing any entrenched industry does when they are threatened by new technology (or anything else for that matter) is go to the government for help (i.e. get the competitor regulated out of existance).  That's where we're at right now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>accept this would involve innovation... and that 's soooo hard !
( in Barbie 's 'Math is Hard ' voice ) The one of the thing any entrenched industry does when they are threatened by new technology ( or anything else for that matter ) is go to the government for help ( i.e .
get the competitor regulated out of existance ) .
That 's where we 're at right now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>accept this would involve innovation... and that's soooo hard!
(in Barbie's 'Math is Hard' voice)The one of the thing any entrenched industry does when they are threatened by new technology (or anything else for that matter) is go to the government for help (i.e.
get the competitor regulated out of existance).
That's where we're at right now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29957028</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257166800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also, everyone likes pirates. Yaargh!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , everyone likes pirates .
Yaargh !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, everyone likes pirates.
Yaargh!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29960308</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257187440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can sympathize with your plight but really, you're whining in the wrong place. You see, slashdot's early roots are in Free Software. That's right, not "Open Source", OSS, FOSS, FLOSS or whatever silly name the exploiters are attempting to use to compromise Free Software.</p><p>Yes, I've tipped my hand. I'm an old school Free Software advocate and I come around here cuz, well, I've been here from the start and it's still a habit.</p><p>What that means is, you're the "Enemy" to me. It's nothing personal, but all that time you spent lovingly crafting your application is totally irrelevant to my life.</p><p>Honestly, I have nothing against you or what you're doing, it's a "free" (as in NOT) country isn't it? It's your choice, but since you chose closed source, you've choosen to line up with my enemies.</p><p>So please, don't expect me to be very understanding about your problem since you're probably using at least one GNU tool on a daily basis<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... if so, have you contributed to the FSF lately? Or maybe you just want to take my work without paying for it?</p><p>I'm not saying that people like me are the dominant majority around here (we're not) but there's still a few of us graybeards hanging out.</p><p>To end, I just want to say that you're free to do what you want and I'll do what I want. I won't expect you to support my goals and please don't expect me to support yours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can sympathize with your plight but really , you 're whining in the wrong place .
You see , slashdot 's early roots are in Free Software .
That 's right , not " Open Source " , OSS , FOSS , FLOSS or whatever silly name the exploiters are attempting to use to compromise Free Software.Yes , I 've tipped my hand .
I 'm an old school Free Software advocate and I come around here cuz , well , I 've been here from the start and it 's still a habit.What that means is , you 're the " Enemy " to me .
It 's nothing personal , but all that time you spent lovingly crafting your application is totally irrelevant to my life.Honestly , I have nothing against you or what you 're doing , it 's a " free " ( as in NOT ) country is n't it ?
It 's your choice , but since you chose closed source , you 've choosen to line up with my enemies.So please , do n't expect me to be very understanding about your problem since you 're probably using at least one GNU tool on a daily basis ... if so , have you contributed to the FSF lately ?
Or maybe you just want to take my work without paying for it ? I 'm not saying that people like me are the dominant majority around here ( we 're not ) but there 's still a few of us graybeards hanging out.To end , I just want to say that you 're free to do what you want and I 'll do what I want .
I wo n't expect you to support my goals and please do n't expect me to support yours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can sympathize with your plight but really, you're whining in the wrong place.
You see, slashdot's early roots are in Free Software.
That's right, not "Open Source", OSS, FOSS, FLOSS or whatever silly name the exploiters are attempting to use to compromise Free Software.Yes, I've tipped my hand.
I'm an old school Free Software advocate and I come around here cuz, well, I've been here from the start and it's still a habit.What that means is, you're the "Enemy" to me.
It's nothing personal, but all that time you spent lovingly crafting your application is totally irrelevant to my life.Honestly, I have nothing against you or what you're doing, it's a "free" (as in NOT) country isn't it?
It's your choice, but since you chose closed source, you've choosen to line up with my enemies.So please, don't expect me to be very understanding about your problem since you're probably using at least one GNU tool on a daily basis ... if so, have you contributed to the FSF lately?
Or maybe you just want to take my work without paying for it?I'm not saying that people like me are the dominant majority around here (we're not) but there's still a few of us graybeards hanging out.To end, I just want to say that you're free to do what you want and I'll do what I want.
I won't expect you to support my goals and please don't expect me to support yours.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954468</id>
	<title>Sigh...</title>
	<author>MightyMartian</author>
	<datestamp>1257153900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's kind of pathetic to watch the industry and the courts try to stomp this out.  Perhaps if more judges, politicians and corporate leaders were familiar with history, they'd know that once the genie is out of the bottle, you can't put it back in.  Smashing printing presses didn't exactly stomp out the increasing speed and distribution that information often unfriendly to Our Betters (kings, politicians, merchants, Church leaders, whoever) received with that technology.  Everyone had to bloody well learn to live with a completely altered information landscape.</p><p>The whole battle against P2P is looking increasingly like tilting at windmills.  Perhaps, at the end of the day, that's an awfully good description for this whole cabal; they are indeed qixotic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's kind of pathetic to watch the industry and the courts try to stomp this out .
Perhaps if more judges , politicians and corporate leaders were familiar with history , they 'd know that once the genie is out of the bottle , you ca n't put it back in .
Smashing printing presses did n't exactly stomp out the increasing speed and distribution that information often unfriendly to Our Betters ( kings , politicians , merchants , Church leaders , whoever ) received with that technology .
Everyone had to bloody well learn to live with a completely altered information landscape.The whole battle against P2P is looking increasingly like tilting at windmills .
Perhaps , at the end of the day , that 's an awfully good description for this whole cabal ; they are indeed qixotic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's kind of pathetic to watch the industry and the courts try to stomp this out.
Perhaps if more judges, politicians and corporate leaders were familiar with history, they'd know that once the genie is out of the bottle, you can't put it back in.
Smashing printing presses didn't exactly stomp out the increasing speed and distribution that information often unfriendly to Our Betters (kings, politicians, merchants, Church leaders, whoever) received with that technology.
Everyone had to bloody well learn to live with a completely altered information landscape.The whole battle against P2P is looking increasingly like tilting at windmills.
Perhaps, at the end of the day, that's an awfully good description for this whole cabal; they are indeed qixotic.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29962398</id>
	<title>Necessary introduction.</title>
	<author>BForrester</author>
	<datestamp>1257257220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hercules:  hydra.  Hydra:  Hercules.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hercules : hydra .
Hydra : Hercules .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hercules:  hydra.
Hydra:  Hercules.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954938</id>
	<title>Re:it's almost like...</title>
	<author>CyprusBlue113</author>
	<datestamp>1257156180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thank you so much, this is now my email signature.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank you so much , this is now my email signature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank you so much, this is now my email signature.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29961296</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>qc\_dk</author>
	<datestamp>1257243240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know the arguments for why copyright infringement isn't Piracy of the high seas variety, but in a metaphorical way it sort of make sense. We are talking about people who are taking things and distributing wealth that should belong to the content creator. Words can be carried from one domain to another and change meaning. We all the know the difference between a Somali pirate and a swedish pirate. It is also much easier to say than distributer of illegally infringing copyrighted material.</p><p>
However, I would like to suggest that we from now on, to stick to the theme, call RIAA, MPAA and the media companies privateers. They are afterall just state sanctioned pirates.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know the arguments for why copyright infringement is n't Piracy of the high seas variety , but in a metaphorical way it sort of make sense .
We are talking about people who are taking things and distributing wealth that should belong to the content creator .
Words can be carried from one domain to another and change meaning .
We all the know the difference between a Somali pirate and a swedish pirate .
It is also much easier to say than distributer of illegally infringing copyrighted material .
However , I would like to suggest that we from now on , to stick to the theme , call RIAA , MPAA and the media companies privateers .
They are afterall just state sanctioned pirates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know the arguments for why copyright infringement isn't Piracy of the high seas variety, but in a metaphorical way it sort of make sense.
We are talking about people who are taking things and distributing wealth that should belong to the content creator.
Words can be carried from one domain to another and change meaning.
We all the know the difference between a Somali pirate and a swedish pirate.
It is also much easier to say than distributer of illegally infringing copyrighted material.
However, I would like to suggest that we from now on, to stick to the theme, call RIAA, MPAA and the media companies privateers.
They are afterall just state sanctioned pirates.
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954778</id>
	<title>Re:War on Drugs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257155400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... war on poverty, terrorism, illiteracy, FOXNews, Hate speech<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... actually any war on \_\_\_\_\_\_ that isn't actually a shooting war against a defined group of people.</p><p>You cannot kill off this kind of Piracy, because it is an concept, not an actual group of people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And ... war on poverty , terrorism , illiteracy , FOXNews , Hate speech ... actually any war on \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ that is n't actually a shooting war against a defined group of people.You can not kill off this kind of Piracy , because it is an concept , not an actual group of people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And ... war on poverty, terrorism, illiteracy, FOXNews, Hate speech ... actually any war on \_\_\_\_\_\_ that isn't actually a shooting war against a defined group of people.You cannot kill off this kind of Piracy, because it is an concept, not an actual group of people.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29957324</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>zaffir</author>
	<datestamp>1257168240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A pirated copy does not mean a lost sale. Perhaps your software just isn't worth the cost to people? Sitting back and blaming the fact that you aren't selling software because of BLOODTHIRSTY PIRATES ARRRRR is easy, and conveniently implies that your lack of sales aren't your fault. But crying to slashdot isn't going to get your software any more sales. A better product at a better price will.</p><p>Nobody hates you for wanting to be paid for your software (well, a few extremists aside). We would, however, hate you for lobbying the government in order to have laws restrictingl P2P technology passed. We would hate you for supporting legislation like the DMCA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A pirated copy does not mean a lost sale .
Perhaps your software just is n't worth the cost to people ?
Sitting back and blaming the fact that you are n't selling software because of BLOODTHIRSTY PIRATES ARRRRR is easy , and conveniently implies that your lack of sales are n't your fault .
But crying to slashdot is n't going to get your software any more sales .
A better product at a better price will.Nobody hates you for wanting to be paid for your software ( well , a few extremists aside ) .
We would , however , hate you for lobbying the government in order to have laws restrictingl P2P technology passed .
We would hate you for supporting legislation like the DMCA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A pirated copy does not mean a lost sale.
Perhaps your software just isn't worth the cost to people?
Sitting back and blaming the fact that you aren't selling software because of BLOODTHIRSTY PIRATES ARRRRR is easy, and conveniently implies that your lack of sales aren't your fault.
But crying to slashdot isn't going to get your software any more sales.
A better product at a better price will.Nobody hates you for wanting to be paid for your software (well, a few extremists aside).
We would, however, hate you for lobbying the government in order to have laws restrictingl P2P technology passed.
We would hate you for supporting legislation like the DMCA.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955978</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257160860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Piracy" essentially means armed robbery and murder on the high seas.  The recent abuse of the term to refer to unauthorized duplication is idiotic.  But of course, the more the media conglomerates and their toadies bellow "piracy" at the top of their lungs, the more a vapid and mostly uncritical public will eat it up, and eventually repeat it.  I'm not justifying unauthorized duplication or redistribution; I'm just sick of the MP/RIAA's bullshit.  They are organizations that have engaged in highly questionable practices for years, and still cling to their outdated gangster ways.  They have monopolized the public airwaves for years through payola schemes, to the detriment of artists and listeners.  I find it hard to shed a tear for them.</p><p>Worse yet, their attacks have laid waste not just to independent artists and labels, but to promising technologies as well, which is probably what pisses off slashdotters more than anything else.*  File torrents are a legitimate source of lots of perfectly legal content, and enable small entities to put out content without paying for tons of bandwidth to do it.  Shutting down TPB is a slap in the face of lots of people who never "pirated" a song in their life.
</p><p>What really gets me is the hypocrisy, though.  The RIAA knows better than anyone that delivering free music to waiting ears is the best guarantee of album sales.  After all, that's why they've been caught in payola schemes over and over - they buy off the radio stations because they know that if their songs are played for free, we will buy the album.  They also know that if their songs <i>aren't</i> heard, sales will never take off.  I don't think that underneath it all they are concerned that "piracy" will hurt their sales; they are concerned that they are losing control of the "free" distribution, and they are afraid of technology they don't fully understand.
</p><p>

*Although, I've also found a large number of technically proficient people are also very musically inclined (myself excepted; I suck at playing music).  It may well be that many here are pissed off because the recording industry has turned out music that is the equivalent of a typical American beer; bland and mass-produced, succeeding on marketing instead of merit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Piracy " essentially means armed robbery and murder on the high seas .
The recent abuse of the term to refer to unauthorized duplication is idiotic .
But of course , the more the media conglomerates and their toadies bellow " piracy " at the top of their lungs , the more a vapid and mostly uncritical public will eat it up , and eventually repeat it .
I 'm not justifying unauthorized duplication or redistribution ; I 'm just sick of the MP/RIAA 's bullshit .
They are organizations that have engaged in highly questionable practices for years , and still cling to their outdated gangster ways .
They have monopolized the public airwaves for years through payola schemes , to the detriment of artists and listeners .
I find it hard to shed a tear for them.Worse yet , their attacks have laid waste not just to independent artists and labels , but to promising technologies as well , which is probably what pisses off slashdotters more than anything else .
* File torrents are a legitimate source of lots of perfectly legal content , and enable small entities to put out content without paying for tons of bandwidth to do it .
Shutting down TPB is a slap in the face of lots of people who never " pirated " a song in their life .
What really gets me is the hypocrisy , though .
The RIAA knows better than anyone that delivering free music to waiting ears is the best guarantee of album sales .
After all , that 's why they 've been caught in payola schemes over and over - they buy off the radio stations because they know that if their songs are played for free , we will buy the album .
They also know that if their songs are n't heard , sales will never take off .
I do n't think that underneath it all they are concerned that " piracy " will hurt their sales ; they are concerned that they are losing control of the " free " distribution , and they are afraid of technology they do n't fully understand .
* Although , I 've also found a large number of technically proficient people are also very musically inclined ( myself excepted ; I suck at playing music ) .
It may well be that many here are pissed off because the recording industry has turned out music that is the equivalent of a typical American beer ; bland and mass-produced , succeeding on marketing instead of merit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Piracy" essentially means armed robbery and murder on the high seas.
The recent abuse of the term to refer to unauthorized duplication is idiotic.
But of course, the more the media conglomerates and their toadies bellow "piracy" at the top of their lungs, the more a vapid and mostly uncritical public will eat it up, and eventually repeat it.
I'm not justifying unauthorized duplication or redistribution; I'm just sick of the MP/RIAA's bullshit.
They are organizations that have engaged in highly questionable practices for years, and still cling to their outdated gangster ways.
They have monopolized the public airwaves for years through payola schemes, to the detriment of artists and listeners.
I find it hard to shed a tear for them.Worse yet, their attacks have laid waste not just to independent artists and labels, but to promising technologies as well, which is probably what pisses off slashdotters more than anything else.
*  File torrents are a legitimate source of lots of perfectly legal content, and enable small entities to put out content without paying for tons of bandwidth to do it.
Shutting down TPB is a slap in the face of lots of people who never "pirated" a song in their life.
What really gets me is the hypocrisy, though.
The RIAA knows better than anyone that delivering free music to waiting ears is the best guarantee of album sales.
After all, that's why they've been caught in payola schemes over and over - they buy off the radio stations because they know that if their songs are played for free, we will buy the album.
They also know that if their songs aren't heard, sales will never take off.
I don't think that underneath it all they are concerned that "piracy" will hurt their sales; they are concerned that they are losing control of the "free" distribution, and they are afraid of technology they don't fully understand.
*Although, I've also found a large number of technically proficient people are also very musically inclined (myself excepted; I suck at playing music).
It may well be that many here are pissed off because the recording industry has turned out music that is the equivalent of a typical American beer; bland and mass-produced, succeeding on marketing instead of merit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29956582</id>
	<title>Re:Eh Sonny?</title>
	<author>UnknownSoldier</author>
	<datestamp>1257164100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Newton said it first, er third<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)<br>"For every action, there is an opposite and equal re-action."</p><p>You see the same meta-issue(s) with book censorship/banning, gun control, games being labeled as violent, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Newton said it first , er third : - ) " For every action , there is an opposite and equal re-action .
" You see the same meta-issue ( s ) with book censorship/banning , gun control , games being labeled as violent , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Newton said it first, er third :-)"For every action, there is an opposite and equal re-action.
"You see the same meta-issue(s) with book censorship/banning, gun control, games being labeled as violent, etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954578</id>
	<title>Deja vu?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257154440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Didn't the same thing happen when napster was closed down? Everyone was using napster and when it shut down multiple sites filled in the gaps. Close down one of those sites, and more get created.</p><p>Similar to the mythical hydra. Chop off a head, and more are replaced.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't the same thing happen when napster was closed down ?
Everyone was using napster and when it shut down multiple sites filled in the gaps .
Close down one of those sites , and more get created.Similar to the mythical hydra .
Chop off a head , and more are replaced .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't the same thing happen when napster was closed down?
Everyone was using napster and when it shut down multiple sites filled in the gaps.
Close down one of those sites, and more get created.Similar to the mythical hydra.
Chop off a head, and more are replaced.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954656</id>
	<title>Re:Streisand Effect?</title>
	<author>sopssa</author>
	<datestamp>1257154860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually when the working and secure P2P solutions shrink, most people will just stop using them. When it becomes so that only possibility is to use something like darknets for P2P, only the hardcore pirates will be there and normal/casual people just wont bother.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually when the working and secure P2P solutions shrink , most people will just stop using them .
When it becomes so that only possibility is to use something like darknets for P2P , only the hardcore pirates will be there and normal/casual people just wont bother .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually when the working and secure P2P solutions shrink, most people will just stop using them.
When it becomes so that only possibility is to use something like darknets for P2P, only the hardcore pirates will be there and normal/casual people just wont bother.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29957042</id>
	<title>Re:Yep</title>
	<author>Sique</author>
	<datestamp>1257166860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm sure lots of scribes were pretty pissed that some asshole German and his machine not only stabbed their profession in the heart, but did it with what was really a substandard result (look at illuminated manuscripts and then look at the Gutenberg Bible, it's the 128bit MP3 of its day!)</p></div><p>I hate to correct you, but Gutenberg's 42-lines-Bible of 1455 is among the most beautiful foliants ever edited, and till today it's the gold standard of typography (though it lacks some of today's features as pagination, indention and paragraph breaks). It surely ranks among the best of all mediaval books.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure lots of scribes were pretty pissed that some asshole German and his machine not only stabbed their profession in the heart , but did it with what was really a substandard result ( look at illuminated manuscripts and then look at the Gutenberg Bible , it 's the 128bit MP3 of its day !
) I hate to correct you , but Gutenberg 's 42-lines-Bible of 1455 is among the most beautiful foliants ever edited , and till today it 's the gold standard of typography ( though it lacks some of today 's features as pagination , indention and paragraph breaks ) .
It surely ranks among the best of all mediaval books .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure lots of scribes were pretty pissed that some asshole German and his machine not only stabbed their profession in the heart, but did it with what was really a substandard result (look at illuminated manuscripts and then look at the Gutenberg Bible, it's the 128bit MP3 of its day!
)I hate to correct you, but Gutenberg's 42-lines-Bible of 1455 is among the most beautiful foliants ever edited, and till today it's the gold standard of typography (though it lacks some of today's features as pagination, indention and paragraph breaks).
It surely ranks among the best of all mediaval books.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954428</id>
	<title>Note -</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257153780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That in the meantime readership of slashdot continues to drop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That in the meantime readership of slashdot continues to drop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That in the meantime readership of slashdot continues to drop.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29963418</id>
	<title>I Think I'm Safe</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257263580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've always seeded generously</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've always seeded generously</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've always seeded generously</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955312</id>
	<title>Re:it's almost like...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257157860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>f**kin' A man</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>f * * kin ' A man</tokentext>
<sentencetext>f**kin' A man</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29958644</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>xtrafe</author>
	<datestamp>1257174420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are not paid because you work hard. Hard work has no inherent financial reward.You are paid because you have something that other people want that is scarce. If what you produce is infinitely redistributable, then you can expect to get paid only for the first copy.</p><p>Don't worry, though, you can keep your job as a programmer. I'm in the same boat you are, and I'm not scared. For whatever business you're in, you just need to create your program such that it doesn't depend on people not copying your distributable. Just assume they will, and move on. It's up to you to work out a business model that works in the environment you're in. \_That\_ is what you get paid for.</p><p>I don't think anything has changed in terms of people's values. If people around here are looking for a bloodbath, they're looking for it against people (and lumbering corporations) who are resisting change, resting finding new ways to do business, and ultimately resisting progress.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are not paid because you work hard .
Hard work has no inherent financial reward.You are paid because you have something that other people want that is scarce .
If what you produce is infinitely redistributable , then you can expect to get paid only for the first copy.Do n't worry , though , you can keep your job as a programmer .
I 'm in the same boat you are , and I 'm not scared .
For whatever business you 're in , you just need to create your program such that it does n't depend on people not copying your distributable .
Just assume they will , and move on .
It 's up to you to work out a business model that works in the environment you 're in .
\ _That \ _ is what you get paid for.I do n't think anything has changed in terms of people 's values .
If people around here are looking for a bloodbath , they 're looking for it against people ( and lumbering corporations ) who are resisting change , resting finding new ways to do business , and ultimately resisting progress .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are not paid because you work hard.
Hard work has no inherent financial reward.You are paid because you have something that other people want that is scarce.
If what you produce is infinitely redistributable, then you can expect to get paid only for the first copy.Don't worry, though, you can keep your job as a programmer.
I'm in the same boat you are, and I'm not scared.
For whatever business you're in, you just need to create your program such that it doesn't depend on people not copying your distributable.
Just assume they will, and move on.
It's up to you to work out a business model that works in the environment you're in.
\_That\_ is what you get paid for.I don't think anything has changed in terms of people's values.
If people around here are looking for a bloodbath, they're looking for it against people (and lumbering corporations) who are resisting change, resting finding new ways to do business, and ultimately resisting progress.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954944</id>
	<title>The media insdustry is commiting suicide...</title>
	<author>AlgorithMan</author>
	<datestamp>1257156240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEvEthIZ4lg" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEvEthIZ4lg</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = cEvEthIZ4lg [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEvEthIZ4lg [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29956726</id>
	<title>Re:it's almost like...</title>
	<author>Heddahenrik</author>
	<datestamp>1257165000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Numbers mean little in war/fights. Dedication is everything. The ones who don't give up win.
<p>

Every time someone buys a CD or DVD, a little of the Internet dies. Every time someone uses Spotify, our Internet becomes more like cable TV.
</p><p>
Every time they shut down a Pirate Bay, the pirates learn a new way of fighting, just like every pirate copy teaches the media monopolists some new way of stealing money for stuff they paid someone to do 50 years ago.

</p><p>
When it comes to music it's quite easy: No compromise is needed. We should not have to pay for music and enough music will be made anyway. When it comes to movies, it's pretty easy at the moment: Let the movie theaters pay for it and sell fancy DVD-boxes that are better than digital copies. And so on. Well, if the good side win. Otherwise, welcome to cable-TV "Internet" and the end of free speech!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Numbers mean little in war/fights .
Dedication is everything .
The ones who do n't give up win .
Every time someone buys a CD or DVD , a little of the Internet dies .
Every time someone uses Spotify , our Internet becomes more like cable TV .
Every time they shut down a Pirate Bay , the pirates learn a new way of fighting , just like every pirate copy teaches the media monopolists some new way of stealing money for stuff they paid someone to do 50 years ago .
When it comes to music it 's quite easy : No compromise is needed .
We should not have to pay for music and enough music will be made anyway .
When it comes to movies , it 's pretty easy at the moment : Let the movie theaters pay for it and sell fancy DVD-boxes that are better than digital copies .
And so on .
Well , if the good side win .
Otherwise , welcome to cable-TV " Internet " and the end of free speech !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Numbers mean little in war/fights.
Dedication is everything.
The ones who don't give up win.
Every time someone buys a CD or DVD, a little of the Internet dies.
Every time someone uses Spotify, our Internet becomes more like cable TV.
Every time they shut down a Pirate Bay, the pirates learn a new way of fighting, just like every pirate copy teaches the media monopolists some new way of stealing money for stuff they paid someone to do 50 years ago.
When it comes to music it's quite easy: No compromise is needed.
We should not have to pay for music and enough music will be made anyway.
When it comes to movies, it's pretty easy at the moment: Let the movie theaters pay for it and sell fancy DVD-boxes that are better than digital copies.
And so on.
Well, if the good side win.
Otherwise, welcome to cable-TV "Internet" and the end of free speech!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954930</id>
	<title>And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257156180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Look at Slashdot cheering at the piracy.  It's really sickening how much Slashdot LOVES piracy now and encourages it at every opportunity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look at Slashdot cheering at the piracy .
It 's really sickening how much Slashdot LOVES piracy now and encourages it at every opportunity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look at Slashdot cheering at the piracy.
It's really sickening how much Slashdot LOVES piracy now and encourages it at every opportunity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29963482</id>
	<title>Silly RIAA, didn't you know Torrents are for kids?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257264000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Methinks RIAA has not played <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whac-A-Mole" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Whac-A-Mole</a> [wikipedia.org]...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Methinks RIAA has not played Whac-A-Mole [ wikipedia.org ] .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Methinks RIAA has not played Whac-A-Mole [wikipedia.org]...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954482</id>
	<title>it's almost like...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257154020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>a handful of selfish greedy people are no match for millions of selfish, greedy people</htmltext>
<tokenext>a handful of selfish greedy people are no match for millions of selfish , greedy people</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a handful of selfish greedy people are no match for millions of selfish, greedy people</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955346</id>
	<title>Re:War on Drugs</title>
	<author>kz45</author>
	<datestamp>1257157980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"you cannot kill off this kind of Piracy, because it is an concept, not an actual group of people."</p><p>As technology gets better (bandwidth gets better and computers get faster), piracy won't be a problem for most big companies.</p><p>This is because everything will be a service.  Turbo tax has already converted their main application into a service and it works very well.  It's only a matter of time before others follow suit.</p><p>You may not like this idea because you want to be able to run it your own computer.  But, just like the piracy movement, you may not have a choice.</p><p>The war on poverty doesn't work because people just want to throw money at it rather than getting to the root of the problem: education.  But, how do you force parents to teach their kids the right way?  You can't.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" you can not kill off this kind of Piracy , because it is an concept , not an actual group of people .
" As technology gets better ( bandwidth gets better and computers get faster ) , piracy wo n't be a problem for most big companies.This is because everything will be a service .
Turbo tax has already converted their main application into a service and it works very well .
It 's only a matter of time before others follow suit.You may not like this idea because you want to be able to run it your own computer .
But , just like the piracy movement , you may not have a choice.The war on poverty does n't work because people just want to throw money at it rather than getting to the root of the problem : education .
But , how do you force parents to teach their kids the right way ?
You ca n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"you cannot kill off this kind of Piracy, because it is an concept, not an actual group of people.
"As technology gets better (bandwidth gets better and computers get faster), piracy won't be a problem for most big companies.This is because everything will be a service.
Turbo tax has already converted their main application into a service and it works very well.
It's only a matter of time before others follow suit.You may not like this idea because you want to be able to run it your own computer.
But, just like the piracy movement, you may not have a choice.The war on poverty doesn't work because people just want to throw money at it rather than getting to the root of the problem: education.
But, how do you force parents to teach their kids the right way?
You can't.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29956056</id>
	<title>Re:duh...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257161160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You can't stop culture with laws.</p></div><p>Somebody should have told the Nazis. They sure tried to do so.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't stop culture with laws.Somebody should have told the Nazis .
They sure tried to do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't stop culture with laws.Somebody should have told the Nazis.
They sure tried to do so.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954792</id>
	<title>Re:Eh Sonny?</title>
	<author>squidfood</author>
	<datestamp>1257155460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."</p></div><p>Yah, this sort of behavior should be called the Tarkin Effect, not the streisandeffect as currently tagged.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The more you tighten your grip , Tarkin , the more star systems will slip through your fingers .
" Yah , this sort of behavior should be called the Tarkin Effect , not the streisandeffect as currently tagged .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.
"Yah, this sort of behavior should be called the Tarkin Effect, not the streisandeffect as currently tagged.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29967466</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257239460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Look at Slashdot cheering at the piracy. It's really sickening how much Slashdot LOVES piracy now and encourages it at every opportunity.</p></div><p>Apparently a 5-digit uid these days brings with it a somewhat higher risk of having already gone senile, instead of the more traditional expectation of being able to produce intelligent thinking.</p><p>You have my sympathy, bonch. Truly.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Look at Slashdot cheering at the piracy .
It 's really sickening how much Slashdot LOVES piracy now and encourages it at every opportunity.Apparently a 5-digit uid these days brings with it a somewhat higher risk of having already gone senile , instead of the more traditional expectation of being able to produce intelligent thinking.You have my sympathy , bonch .
Truly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look at Slashdot cheering at the piracy.
It's really sickening how much Slashdot LOVES piracy now and encourages it at every opportunity.Apparently a 5-digit uid these days brings with it a somewhat higher risk of having already gone senile, instead of the more traditional expectation of being able to produce intelligent thinking.You have my sympathy, bonch.
Truly.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29958688</id>
	<title>Re:Yep</title>
	<author>jwhitener</author>
	<datestamp>1257174660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except the scribes really couldn't compete with the speed and accuracy of the printing press.</p><p>The media industry could EASILY out class the ease of pirating something if they'd get off their asses.</p><p>My TV, for example, should be able to play any TV show ever created for some nominal price per episode.  Say.. 50 cents.  20 episodes, they get 10 bucks. Instead if I want to watch an older show, I can either order the DVD if it possible to find it, or pirate it.</p><p>It took Tivo and and a secondary distributor/rentor like Blockbuster and Netflicks to get on demand movies to our tv's.</p><p>Why the heck wasn't this coming from large deals between cable companies and major studios at the dawn of broadband?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except the scribes really could n't compete with the speed and accuracy of the printing press.The media industry could EASILY out class the ease of pirating something if they 'd get off their asses.My TV , for example , should be able to play any TV show ever created for some nominal price per episode .
Say.. 50 cents .
20 episodes , they get 10 bucks .
Instead if I want to watch an older show , I can either order the DVD if it possible to find it , or pirate it.It took Tivo and and a secondary distributor/rentor like Blockbuster and Netflicks to get on demand movies to our tv 's.Why the heck was n't this coming from large deals between cable companies and major studios at the dawn of broadband ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except the scribes really couldn't compete with the speed and accuracy of the printing press.The media industry could EASILY out class the ease of pirating something if they'd get off their asses.My TV, for example, should be able to play any TV show ever created for some nominal price per episode.
Say.. 50 cents.
20 episodes, they get 10 bucks.
Instead if I want to watch an older show, I can either order the DVD if it possible to find it, or pirate it.It took Tivo and and a secondary distributor/rentor like Blockbuster and Netflicks to get on demand movies to our tv's.Why the heck wasn't this coming from large deals between cable companies and major studios at the dawn of broadband?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29961288</id>
	<title>Re:Eh Sonny?</title>
	<author>bronney</author>
	<datestamp>1257242940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's what she said.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what she said .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's what she said.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29956890</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>arevos</author>
	<datestamp>1257166020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The recent abuse of the term to refer to unauthorized duplication is idiotic.</p></div><p>It's idiotic, but not a recent term. Unauthorized distribution of content was called "piracy" as far back as 1603.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The recent abuse of the term to refer to unauthorized duplication is idiotic.It 's idiotic , but not a recent term .
Unauthorized distribution of content was called " piracy " as far back as 1603 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The recent abuse of the term to refer to unauthorized duplication is idiotic.It's idiotic, but not a recent term.
Unauthorized distribution of content was called "piracy" as far back as 1603.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29957624</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257169440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mmm, one question - is your software GPL licensed? mmm, then we are sorry, we have no sympathy/empathy for you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mmm , one question - is your software GPL licensed ?
mmm , then we are sorry , we have no sympathy/empathy for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mmm, one question - is your software GPL licensed?
mmm, then we are sorry, we have no sympathy/empathy for you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29956694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954624</id>
	<title>Re:Streisand Effect?</title>
	<author>Darkness404</author>
	<datestamp>1257154740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or is it basic economics? Large, powerful, good site goes down leaving a vacuum for new sites to pop up. The demand hasn't slowed any and so its natural for lots of smaller sites to pop up until they become as good as TPB then we start over again.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or is it basic economics ?
Large , powerful , good site goes down leaving a vacuum for new sites to pop up .
The demand has n't slowed any and so its natural for lots of smaller sites to pop up until they become as good as TPB then we start over again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or is it basic economics?
Large, powerful, good site goes down leaving a vacuum for new sites to pop up.
The demand hasn't slowed any and so its natural for lots of smaller sites to pop up until they become as good as TPB then we start over again.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954470</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29956004</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>Pharmboy</author>
	<datestamp>1257160980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><em>Look at Slashdot cheering at the piracy. It's really sickening how much Slashdot LOVES piracy now and encourages it at every opportunity.</em></p><p>Slashot loves technology.  It's the users that love and encourage piracy, and enjoy something for nothing.  While I am at it, I would like to take the time to encourage you to go to <a href="http://www.publicdomaintorrents.com/" title="publicdomaintorrents.com">PublicDomainTorrents</a> [publicdomaintorrents.com] and download some movies for free.  Or maybe you can grab a torrent to "pirate" Linux and other GPL s0ftwarez.  To the ISPs that throttle, all torrent traffic looks the same, so hopefully you don't have one of those ISPs.</p><p><strong>Remember kids:</strong> <br>Drinking alcohol, smoking cigarettes and downloading music and movies makes you look cool, and girls really dig it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look at Slashdot cheering at the piracy .
It 's really sickening how much Slashdot LOVES piracy now and encourages it at every opportunity.Slashot loves technology .
It 's the users that love and encourage piracy , and enjoy something for nothing .
While I am at it , I would like to take the time to encourage you to go to PublicDomainTorrents [ publicdomaintorrents.com ] and download some movies for free .
Or maybe you can grab a torrent to " pirate " Linux and other GPL s0ftwarez .
To the ISPs that throttle , all torrent traffic looks the same , so hopefully you do n't have one of those ISPs.Remember kids : Drinking alcohol , smoking cigarettes and downloading music and movies makes you look cool , and girls really dig it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look at Slashdot cheering at the piracy.
It's really sickening how much Slashdot LOVES piracy now and encourages it at every opportunity.Slashot loves technology.
It's the users that love and encourage piracy, and enjoy something for nothing.
While I am at it, I would like to take the time to encourage you to go to PublicDomainTorrents [publicdomaintorrents.com] and download some movies for free.
Or maybe you can grab a torrent to "pirate" Linux and other GPL s0ftwarez.
To the ISPs that throttle, all torrent traffic looks the same, so hopefully you don't have one of those ISPs.Remember kids: Drinking alcohol, smoking cigarettes and downloading music and movies makes you look cool, and girls really dig it!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29963706</id>
	<title>This is our world now...</title>
	<author>KiwiCanuck</author>
	<datestamp>1257265260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>the world of the electron and the switch, the
beauty of the baud.  We make use of a service already existing without paying
for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and
you call us criminals.  We explore... and you call us criminals.  We seek
after knowledge... and you call us criminals.  We exist without skin color,
without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals.
You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us
and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.

        Yes, I am a criminal.  My crime is that of curiosity.  My crime is
that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like.
My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me
for.

        I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto.  You may stop this individual,
but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.
<a href="http://www.phrack.org/issues.html?issue=7&amp;id=3&amp;page=2" title="phrack.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.phrack.org/issues.html?issue=7&amp;id=3&amp;page=2</a> [phrack.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>the world of the electron and the switch , the beauty of the baud .
We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it was n't run by profiteering gluttons , and you call us criminals .
We explore... and you call us criminals .
We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals .
We exist without skin color , without nationality , without religious bias... and you call us criminals .
You build atomic bombs , you wage wars , you murder , cheat , and lie to us and try to make us believe it 's for our own good , yet we 're the criminals .
Yes , I am a criminal .
My crime is that of curiosity .
My crime is that of judging people by what they say and think , not what they look like .
My crime is that of outsmarting you , something that you will never forgive me for .
I am a hacker , and this is my manifesto .
You may stop this individual , but you ca n't stop us all... after all , we 're all alike .
http : //www.phrack.org/issues.html ? issue = 7&amp;id = 3&amp;page = 2 [ phrack.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the world of the electron and the switch, the
beauty of the baud.
We make use of a service already existing without paying
for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and
you call us criminals.
We explore... and you call us criminals.
We seek
after knowledge... and you call us criminals.
We exist without skin color,
without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals.
You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us
and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.
Yes, I am a criminal.
My crime is that of curiosity.
My crime is
that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like.
My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me
for.
I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto.
You may stop this individual,
but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.
http://www.phrack.org/issues.html?issue=7&amp;id=3&amp;page=2 [phrack.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29956320</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257162480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Copyright law was originally seen as a way of encouraging writers to write, by giving them a portion of the profits gained from their work.  It was always understood, however that the work of the author was in the end property of THE PUBLIC, and that the author's rights on their own work were temporary.  We have migrated to a system where the author/corporation has near absolute ownership of their work.  This shift of the meaning of copyright has the potential to cripple the public cultural discourse.  The "piracy" movement is in large part a rebellion against the increasingly strong assertion of ownership by corporations over what in the end is OUR culture.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Copyright law was originally seen as a way of encouraging writers to write , by giving them a portion of the profits gained from their work .
It was always understood , however that the work of the author was in the end property of THE PUBLIC , and that the author 's rights on their own work were temporary .
We have migrated to a system where the author/corporation has near absolute ownership of their work .
This shift of the meaning of copyright has the potential to cripple the public cultural discourse .
The " piracy " movement is in large part a rebellion against the increasingly strong assertion of ownership by corporations over what in the end is OUR culture .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Copyright law was originally seen as a way of encouraging writers to write, by giving them a portion of the profits gained from their work.
It was always understood, however that the work of the author was in the end property of THE PUBLIC, and that the author's rights on their own work were temporary.
We have migrated to a system where the author/corporation has near absolute ownership of their work.
This shift of the meaning of copyright has the potential to cripple the public cultural discourse.
The "piracy" movement is in large part a rebellion against the increasingly strong assertion of ownership by corporations over what in the end is OUR culture.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955360</id>
	<title>We see police going after the sites, not users</title>
	<author>fluor2</author>
	<datestamp>1257158040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Before the PBay Case, I guess people were afraid that the police would go after the users. Now it seem to us that they will focus on taking the sites spreading torrent files. Thus the users feel safer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Before the PBay Case , I guess people were afraid that the police would go after the users .
Now it seem to us that they will focus on taking the sites spreading torrent files .
Thus the users feel safer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Before the PBay Case, I guess people were afraid that the police would go after the users.
Now it seem to us that they will focus on taking the sites spreading torrent files.
Thus the users feel safer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954924</id>
	<title>Bravo, sir</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257156120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While greed is a great motivator, I still like to think there's a little bit of Gutenberg in us.  Distributing copyrighted works is not purely a selfish act.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While greed is a great motivator , I still like to think there 's a little bit of Gutenberg in us .
Distributing copyrighted works is not purely a selfish act .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While greed is a great motivator, I still like to think there's a little bit of Gutenberg in us.
Distributing copyrighted works is not purely a selfish act.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954482</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29956706</id>
	<title>Re:Eh Sonny?</title>
	<author>kat\_skan</author>
	<datestamp>1257164880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Yah, this sort of behavior should be called the Tarkin Effect, not the streisandeffect as currently tagged.</p></div></blockquote><p>Heh. Nice try Babs, but I'm afraid you're stuck with this one forever.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yah , this sort of behavior should be called the Tarkin Effect , not the streisandeffect as currently tagged.Heh .
Nice try Babs , but I 'm afraid you 're stuck with this one forever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yah, this sort of behavior should be called the Tarkin Effect, not the streisandeffect as currently tagged.Heh.
Nice try Babs, but I'm afraid you're stuck with this one forever.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954792</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29956604</id>
	<title>Re:War on Drugs</title>
	<author>tmosley</author>
	<datestamp>1257164280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It addresses the symptoms about as well as a doctor treating his patients with a chainsaw.  Never mind the underlying causes, the "treatment" is leaving bloody severed extremities all over the place!.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It addresses the symptoms about as well as a doctor treating his patients with a chainsaw .
Never mind the underlying causes , the " treatment " is leaving bloody severed extremities all over the place ! .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It addresses the symptoms about as well as a doctor treating his patients with a chainsaw.
Never mind the underlying causes, the "treatment" is leaving bloody severed extremities all over the place!.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954598</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955692</id>
	<title>Re:it's almost like...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257159720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Free market forces!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Free market forces !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Free market forces!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954482</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29956694</id>
	<title>Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>brit74</author>
	<datestamp>1257164820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As a software developer attempting to earn a living by selling software to consumers, it pains me to see so many of these responses.  Sometimes, when I visit slashdot and digg, I wonder why I try at all.  So many of the commenters here believe that they have a right to get copies of my work for free, even though it takes years to construct it.  Financially, I see no way to continue my work unless I can earn money by selling copies.  The comments here scare me.  It's like someone wrapping their hands around my throat and gleefully choking me, while discussing how happy they will be to dance on my grave.  I write software that people like.  I work hard at it, and I love what I do.  But, the responses of so many people here are just scary.  I am blamed for all kinds of imagined harms committed against them.  I'm just a guy working and trying to earn a living from it, but somehow that gets turned into "they are 'robin hood' and I am the evil governor inflicting taxes on them".
<br> <br>
I'm not entirely surprised.  Slashdot regularly posts stories who's purpose is to inflame people.  In that sense, I see Slashdot as another biased media outlet that tries to control and manipulate people, turning them against those of us who survive on copyright.  Many times, I have wondered to what extent groups like the Pirate Party have infiltrated technology websites like Slashdot in order to control and manipulate what people read and hear, to "guide" them to some predefined conclusion.
<br> <br>
But, economically, the situation cannot sustain itself.  When I read so many of these comments, it makes me want to leave the software industry because too many pirates are working too hard to undercut our ability to earn a living from our hard work.  So many people here seem to want to bloodbath, and I'm the intended victim.  My crime is that I won't give away years of work for free, but, somehow, people have constructed all kinds of imaginary crimes to legitimize their actions.  I don't know what to think of people anymore.  I'm doubting that it's even worth trying anymore.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a software developer attempting to earn a living by selling software to consumers , it pains me to see so many of these responses .
Sometimes , when I visit slashdot and digg , I wonder why I try at all .
So many of the commenters here believe that they have a right to get copies of my work for free , even though it takes years to construct it .
Financially , I see no way to continue my work unless I can earn money by selling copies .
The comments here scare me .
It 's like someone wrapping their hands around my throat and gleefully choking me , while discussing how happy they will be to dance on my grave .
I write software that people like .
I work hard at it , and I love what I do .
But , the responses of so many people here are just scary .
I am blamed for all kinds of imagined harms committed against them .
I 'm just a guy working and trying to earn a living from it , but somehow that gets turned into " they are 'robin hood ' and I am the evil governor inflicting taxes on them " .
I 'm not entirely surprised .
Slashdot regularly posts stories who 's purpose is to inflame people .
In that sense , I see Slashdot as another biased media outlet that tries to control and manipulate people , turning them against those of us who survive on copyright .
Many times , I have wondered to what extent groups like the Pirate Party have infiltrated technology websites like Slashdot in order to control and manipulate what people read and hear , to " guide " them to some predefined conclusion .
But , economically , the situation can not sustain itself .
When I read so many of these comments , it makes me want to leave the software industry because too many pirates are working too hard to undercut our ability to earn a living from our hard work .
So many people here seem to want to bloodbath , and I 'm the intended victim .
My crime is that I wo n't give away years of work for free , but , somehow , people have constructed all kinds of imaginary crimes to legitimize their actions .
I do n't know what to think of people anymore .
I 'm doubting that it 's even worth trying anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a software developer attempting to earn a living by selling software to consumers, it pains me to see so many of these responses.
Sometimes, when I visit slashdot and digg, I wonder why I try at all.
So many of the commenters here believe that they have a right to get copies of my work for free, even though it takes years to construct it.
Financially, I see no way to continue my work unless I can earn money by selling copies.
The comments here scare me.
It's like someone wrapping their hands around my throat and gleefully choking me, while discussing how happy they will be to dance on my grave.
I write software that people like.
I work hard at it, and I love what I do.
But, the responses of so many people here are just scary.
I am blamed for all kinds of imagined harms committed against them.
I'm just a guy working and trying to earn a living from it, but somehow that gets turned into "they are 'robin hood' and I am the evil governor inflicting taxes on them".
I'm not entirely surprised.
Slashdot regularly posts stories who's purpose is to inflame people.
In that sense, I see Slashdot as another biased media outlet that tries to control and manipulate people, turning them against those of us who survive on copyright.
Many times, I have wondered to what extent groups like the Pirate Party have infiltrated technology websites like Slashdot in order to control and manipulate what people read and hear, to "guide" them to some predefined conclusion.
But, economically, the situation cannot sustain itself.
When I read so many of these comments, it makes me want to leave the software industry because too many pirates are working too hard to undercut our ability to earn a living from our hard work.
So many people here seem to want to bloodbath, and I'm the intended victim.
My crime is that I won't give away years of work for free, but, somehow, people have constructed all kinds of imaginary crimes to legitimize their actions.
I don't know what to think of people anymore.
I'm doubting that it's even worth trying anymore.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954958</id>
	<title>Stomping out fires</title>
	<author>Jason Levine</author>
	<datestamp>1257156300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I get this mental image of a decent sized pile of sticks on fire.  The RIAA tries to put out the fire by stomping on it, jumping up and down on it and kicking it.  They successfully put out the main fire, but in the process sticks get scattered all about and ignite other brush.  So the RIAA repeats their "put out the fire" procedure on those, continually winding up with burnt feet and more fires than they started out with.</p><p>(This isn't to say that I agree with the copyright infringement websites either.  However, the RIAA's approach to defending copyright leaves little room for sympathy and turns many who would support sensible copyrights into pirates.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I get this mental image of a decent sized pile of sticks on fire .
The RIAA tries to put out the fire by stomping on it , jumping up and down on it and kicking it .
They successfully put out the main fire , but in the process sticks get scattered all about and ignite other brush .
So the RIAA repeats their " put out the fire " procedure on those , continually winding up with burnt feet and more fires than they started out with .
( This is n't to say that I agree with the copyright infringement websites either .
However , the RIAA 's approach to defending copyright leaves little room for sympathy and turns many who would support sensible copyrights into pirates .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get this mental image of a decent sized pile of sticks on fire.
The RIAA tries to put out the fire by stomping on it, jumping up and down on it and kicking it.
They successfully put out the main fire, but in the process sticks get scattered all about and ignite other brush.
So the RIAA repeats their "put out the fire" procedure on those, continually winding up with burnt feet and more fires than they started out with.
(This isn't to say that I agree with the copyright infringement websites either.
However, the RIAA's approach to defending copyright leaves little room for sympathy and turns many who would support sensible copyrights into pirates.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29958208</id>
	<title>Next solution is Anycast</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257172140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone up for writing a distributed tracker that can cope with Anycast traffic?<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anycast" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anycast</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone up for writing a distributed tracker that can cope with Anycast traffic ? http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anycast [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone up for writing a distributed tracker that can cope with Anycast traffic?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anycast [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955562</id>
	<title>Re:60 Minutes</title>
	<author>brit74</author>
	<datestamp>1257159120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Funny, I thought pirates disliked it when people made money off of pirated material.  Oh well, I guess not.  It was actually a really good news story.  Everyone can watch it here:
<a href="http://www.veoh.com/collection/CBS-60-Minutes/watch/v19306351MbfMTNw4" title="veoh.com">http://www.veoh.com/collection/CBS-60-Minutes/watch/v19306351MbfMTNw4</a> [veoh.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny , I thought pirates disliked it when people made money off of pirated material .
Oh well , I guess not .
It was actually a really good news story .
Everyone can watch it here : http : //www.veoh.com/collection/CBS-60-Minutes/watch/v19306351MbfMTNw4 [ veoh.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny, I thought pirates disliked it when people made money off of pirated material.
Oh well, I guess not.
It was actually a really good news story.
Everyone can watch it here:
http://www.veoh.com/collection/CBS-60-Minutes/watch/v19306351MbfMTNw4 [veoh.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29960754</id>
	<title>You know what's massively wrong about this?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1257278460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>300\% increase in the number of <strong>sites</strong> providing access to copyright files</p></div><p>Sites?? That's a huge step backward, when you need websites to share files. And it's the fault of the architecture of BitTorrent.</p><p>We were/are way further than this. Hell, Napster already had a <em>built-in</em> search function. Then came serverless systems like Gnutella. (No single point of failure.) And then we even went to whole darknets with anonymity and encryption, that are nearly indestructible by the content industry.</p><p>But BitTorrent has it all: No built-in search and a single point of failure (the tracker) per file. Let alone anonymity and encryption. It's basically just a fancy load-sharing FTP server.<br>Yes that was what it was developed for. And that is what it should be used for.</p><p>BitTorrent for file-sharing is just <em>wrong</em>. And with that stomping-out of bad P2P protocols, BitTorrent will soon be lost even for what it was meant for. Which is bad, because it was good for that. And which is good, because it pushes people to use more recent P2P networks again.</p></div>
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<tokenext>300 \ % increase in the number of sites providing access to copyright filesSites ? ?
That 's a huge step backward , when you need websites to share files .
And it 's the fault of the architecture of BitTorrent.We were/are way further than this .
Hell , Napster already had a built-in search function .
Then came serverless systems like Gnutella .
( No single point of failure .
) And then we even went to whole darknets with anonymity and encryption , that are nearly indestructible by the content industry.But BitTorrent has it all : No built-in search and a single point of failure ( the tracker ) per file .
Let alone anonymity and encryption .
It 's basically just a fancy load-sharing FTP server.Yes that was what it was developed for .
And that is what it should be used for.BitTorrent for file-sharing is just wrong .
And with that stomping-out of bad P2P protocols , BitTorrent will soon be lost even for what it was meant for .
Which is bad , because it was good for that .
And which is good , because it pushes people to use more recent P2P networks again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>300\% increase in the number of sites providing access to copyright filesSites??
That's a huge step backward, when you need websites to share files.
And it's the fault of the architecture of BitTorrent.We were/are way further than this.
Hell, Napster already had a built-in search function.
Then came serverless systems like Gnutella.
(No single point of failure.
) And then we even went to whole darknets with anonymity and encryption, that are nearly indestructible by the content industry.But BitTorrent has it all: No built-in search and a single point of failure (the tracker) per file.
Let alone anonymity and encryption.
It's basically just a fancy load-sharing FTP server.Yes that was what it was developed for.
And that is what it should be used for.BitTorrent for file-sharing is just wrong.
And with that stomping-out of bad P2P protocols, BitTorrent will soon be lost even for what it was meant for.
Which is bad, because it was good for that.
And which is good, because it pushes people to use more recent P2P networks again.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954574</id>
	<title>Yep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257154440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Keep trying, suits.</p><p>For every Web site you shut down; for every IRC server you pay to have DDoSed; for every eMule node you raid; five more will spring up in their place.</p><p>You can pollute the edonkey net with malware; we'll move to IRC.  You can kill public websites; we'll make private, invite-only underground darknets, that you can't see, find, or regulate.</p><p>The society that you are trying to prevent the formation of is, in good part, already here.  We will continue working to establish it, for the ultimate benefit and enrichment of all; ironically even you yourselves in the end.</p><p>The end of scarcity is inevitable.  You can attempt to stand in the way, you can slow it down, marginally...but you will not stop it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Keep trying , suits.For every Web site you shut down ; for every IRC server you pay to have DDoSed ; for every eMule node you raid ; five more will spring up in their place.You can pollute the edonkey net with malware ; we 'll move to IRC .
You can kill public websites ; we 'll make private , invite-only underground darknets , that you ca n't see , find , or regulate.The society that you are trying to prevent the formation of is , in good part , already here .
We will continue working to establish it , for the ultimate benefit and enrichment of all ; ironically even you yourselves in the end.The end of scarcity is inevitable .
You can attempt to stand in the way , you can slow it down , marginally...but you will not stop it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Keep trying, suits.For every Web site you shut down; for every IRC server you pay to have DDoSed; for every eMule node you raid; five more will spring up in their place.You can pollute the edonkey net with malware; we'll move to IRC.
You can kill public websites; we'll make private, invite-only underground darknets, that you can't see, find, or regulate.The society that you are trying to prevent the formation of is, in good part, already here.
We will continue working to establish it, for the ultimate benefit and enrichment of all; ironically even you yourselves in the end.The end of scarcity is inevitable.
You can attempt to stand in the way, you can slow it down, marginally...but you will not stop it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955392</id>
	<title>Re:Yep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257158160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The society you describe has been around a lot longer than you think.  Based on your perspective, I'd say since before you were on the net.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The society you describe has been around a lot longer than you think .
Based on your perspective , I 'd say since before you were on the net .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The society you describe has been around a lot longer than you think.
Based on your perspective, I'd say since before you were on the net.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954598</id>
	<title>War on Drugs</title>
	<author>Reason58</author>
	<datestamp>1257154560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is similarly ineffective as going after drug dealers. This addresses the symptoms, but not the underlying causes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is similarly ineffective as going after drug dealers .
This addresses the symptoms , but not the underlying causes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is similarly ineffective as going after drug dealers.
This addresses the symptoms, but not the underlying causes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29959352</id>
	<title>Re:Eh Sonny?</title>
	<author>llamasniper</author>
	<datestamp>1257179040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>For each of us you IP ban, 10 more seeders will take his place</htmltext>
<tokenext>For each of us you IP ban , 10 more seeders will take his place</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For each of us you IP ban, 10 more seeders will take his place</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955050</id>
	<title>The problem are Theaters</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257156840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No one wants to go to the theater anymore.</p><p>I once had to sit next to a fat, nicotine-smelling mouth breather. He was so fat, his breaking actually made noise. I was no more impressed when I saw him im the lobby after the movie. His sweatshirt said "My Dick Tastes Like Chapstick"</p><p>Couple that with talkers, out-of-focus, low-frame rate, cold theaters, you don't have the best venue for people to go see, Yeah, ita a big screen, but we have HD TVs with surround sound, and people you can beat or fart on if they get out of line. Not to mention you can actually pause the damn thing.</p><p>If the Movie industry just gave up on theaters and went straight to PPV, thereby increasing access, they'd find they have a much bigger audience. But for some insane reason they insist on making us trot out to these smelly, dark, hell holes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No one wants to go to the theater anymore.I once had to sit next to a fat , nicotine-smelling mouth breather .
He was so fat , his breaking actually made noise .
I was no more impressed when I saw him im the lobby after the movie .
His sweatshirt said " My Dick Tastes Like Chapstick " Couple that with talkers , out-of-focus , low-frame rate , cold theaters , you do n't have the best venue for people to go see , Yeah , ita a big screen , but we have HD TVs with surround sound , and people you can beat or fart on if they get out of line .
Not to mention you can actually pause the damn thing.If the Movie industry just gave up on theaters and went straight to PPV , thereby increasing access , they 'd find they have a much bigger audience .
But for some insane reason they insist on making us trot out to these smelly , dark , hell holes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No one wants to go to the theater anymore.I once had to sit next to a fat, nicotine-smelling mouth breather.
He was so fat, his breaking actually made noise.
I was no more impressed when I saw him im the lobby after the movie.
His sweatshirt said "My Dick Tastes Like Chapstick"Couple that with talkers, out-of-focus, low-frame rate, cold theaters, you don't have the best venue for people to go see, Yeah, ita a big screen, but we have HD TVs with surround sound, and people you can beat or fart on if they get out of line.
Not to mention you can actually pause the damn thing.If the Movie industry just gave up on theaters and went straight to PPV, thereby increasing access, they'd find they have a much bigger audience.
But for some insane reason they insist on making us trot out to these smelly, dark, hell holes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954662</id>
	<title>Re:Buzzwords, because thinking is hard</title>
	<author>garynuman</author>
	<datestamp>1257154920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is cloud computing like buying another pair of pants is cloud clothing.</p></div><p>i don't get it, could you please explain yourself to me relating your comments to repairing an automobile? thanks....</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is cloud computing like buying another pair of pants is cloud clothing.i do n't get it , could you please explain yourself to me relating your comments to repairing an automobile ?
thanks... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is cloud computing like buying another pair of pants is cloud clothing.i don't get it, could you please explain yourself to me relating your comments to repairing an automobile?
thanks....
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29958360</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>suomynonAyletamitlU</author>
	<datestamp>1257172980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't see how piracy is an idiotic term, especially from the standpoint of the people whose products are being stolen.</p><p>Pirates sailed the high seas, yes, they murdered and stole, yes.  However, of note to the people who 1)produced the goods and 2)bought them, the goods were being stolen, not merely destroyed.  Entire markets sprung up where people could acquire LARGE amounts of stolen goods, no questions asked.  The people selling were mum about their sources.  The people who did the act were difficult to pin down.  Often somewhat honest tradesmen were the only people the enforcers could find who had any connection to the theft.  People who wanted legitimate goods or who placed a special order would pay higher prices to make up for the drop in sales and the efforts to find the culprits.  Granted, there were other expenses not happening here, such as loss of ships, etc.</p><p>What we have now are markets where large amounts of stolen goods being acquired, no questions asked.  The people distributing them are mum about their sources.  The people who did the act are difficult to pin down, lost in the vast ocean--a metaphoric one, but it's a good metaphor.  People who want legitimate goods are paying high prices (whether this would not be true if there were no pirates is another question) and forced to deal with DRM.  Honest tradesmen, and now unfortunately honest consumers, are being forced to deal with the wrath of the producers.  Granted the distribution of a single image is of no cost because the MARGINAL production cost is almost nil, but that fact doesn't mean that the people producing software didn't have large amounts invested in the project.</p><p>If you're going to argue that the whole of the argument is how much software should cost, don't.  When coders are sponsored by the state and producing software is free, then it will be reasonable to expect to get software for free.  Until then you either will or won't get it for free by the whim of whomever made it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see how piracy is an idiotic term , especially from the standpoint of the people whose products are being stolen.Pirates sailed the high seas , yes , they murdered and stole , yes .
However , of note to the people who 1 ) produced the goods and 2 ) bought them , the goods were being stolen , not merely destroyed .
Entire markets sprung up where people could acquire LARGE amounts of stolen goods , no questions asked .
The people selling were mum about their sources .
The people who did the act were difficult to pin down .
Often somewhat honest tradesmen were the only people the enforcers could find who had any connection to the theft .
People who wanted legitimate goods or who placed a special order would pay higher prices to make up for the drop in sales and the efforts to find the culprits .
Granted , there were other expenses not happening here , such as loss of ships , etc.What we have now are markets where large amounts of stolen goods being acquired , no questions asked .
The people distributing them are mum about their sources .
The people who did the act are difficult to pin down , lost in the vast ocean--a metaphoric one , but it 's a good metaphor .
People who want legitimate goods are paying high prices ( whether this would not be true if there were no pirates is another question ) and forced to deal with DRM .
Honest tradesmen , and now unfortunately honest consumers , are being forced to deal with the wrath of the producers .
Granted the distribution of a single image is of no cost because the MARGINAL production cost is almost nil , but that fact does n't mean that the people producing software did n't have large amounts invested in the project.If you 're going to argue that the whole of the argument is how much software should cost , do n't .
When coders are sponsored by the state and producing software is free , then it will be reasonable to expect to get software for free .
Until then you either will or wo n't get it for free by the whim of whomever made it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see how piracy is an idiotic term, especially from the standpoint of the people whose products are being stolen.Pirates sailed the high seas, yes, they murdered and stole, yes.
However, of note to the people who 1)produced the goods and 2)bought them, the goods were being stolen, not merely destroyed.
Entire markets sprung up where people could acquire LARGE amounts of stolen goods, no questions asked.
The people selling were mum about their sources.
The people who did the act were difficult to pin down.
Often somewhat honest tradesmen were the only people the enforcers could find who had any connection to the theft.
People who wanted legitimate goods or who placed a special order would pay higher prices to make up for the drop in sales and the efforts to find the culprits.
Granted, there were other expenses not happening here, such as loss of ships, etc.What we have now are markets where large amounts of stolen goods being acquired, no questions asked.
The people distributing them are mum about their sources.
The people who did the act are difficult to pin down, lost in the vast ocean--a metaphoric one, but it's a good metaphor.
People who want legitimate goods are paying high prices (whether this would not be true if there were no pirates is another question) and forced to deal with DRM.
Honest tradesmen, and now unfortunately honest consumers, are being forced to deal with the wrath of the producers.
Granted the distribution of a single image is of no cost because the MARGINAL production cost is almost nil, but that fact doesn't mean that the people producing software didn't have large amounts invested in the project.If you're going to argue that the whole of the argument is how much software should cost, don't.
When coders are sponsored by the state and producing software is free, then it will be reasonable to expect to get software for free.
Until then you either will or won't get it for free by the whim of whomever made it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954978</id>
	<title>Re:it's almost like...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257156420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>a handful of selfish greedy people are no match for millions of selfish, greedy people</p></div><p>I find it particularly ironic that people who are <i>sharing cultural works with others for free</i> are being called "greedy" and "selfish".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>a handful of selfish greedy people are no match for millions of selfish , greedy peopleI find it particularly ironic that people who are sharing cultural works with others for free are being called " greedy " and " selfish " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a handful of selfish greedy people are no match for millions of selfish, greedy peopleI find it particularly ironic that people who are sharing cultural works with others for free are being called "greedy" and "selfish".
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954960</id>
	<title>Re:it's almost like...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257156300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I really want the product this group of people makes!  But I don't agree with how they want it distributed and I find them rude.  Therefore, I'm justified in both defying them and not paying for it!  See?  That's civility!"</p><p>Mr. (or Mrs.) u4ya, you're one of the few who see it for what it is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I really want the product this group of people makes !
But I do n't agree with how they want it distributed and I find them rude .
Therefore , I 'm justified in both defying them and not paying for it !
See ? That 's civility ! " Mr .
( or Mrs. ) u4ya , you 're one of the few who see it for what it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I really want the product this group of people makes!
But I don't agree with how they want it distributed and I find them rude.
Therefore, I'm justified in both defying them and not paying for it!
See?  That's civility!"Mr.
(or Mrs.) u4ya, you're one of the few who see it for what it is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29957086</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257167220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"Piracy" essentially means armed robbery and murder on the high seas.  The recent abuse of the term to refer to unauthorized duplication is idiotic.  But of course, the more the media conglomerates and their toadies bellow "piracy" at the top of their lungs, the more a vapid and mostly uncritical public will eat it up, and eventually repeat it.  I'm not justifying unauthorized duplication or redistribution; I'm just sick of the MP/RIAA's bullshit.  They are organizations that have engaged in highly questionable practices for years, and still cling to their outdated gangster ways.  They have monopolized the public airwaves for years through payola schemes, to the detriment of artists and listeners.  I find it hard to shed a tear for them.</p><p>Worse yet, their attacks have laid waste not just to independent artists and labels, but to promising technologies as well, which is probably what pisses off slashdotters more than anything else.*  File torrents are a legitimate source of lots of perfectly legal content, and enable small entities to put out content without paying for tons of bandwidth to do it.  Shutting down TPB is a slap in the face of lots of people who never "pirated" a song in their life.</p><p>What really gets me is the hypocrisy, though.  The RIAA knows better than anyone that delivering free music to waiting ears is the best guarantee of album sales.  After all, that's why they've been caught in payola schemes over and over - they buy off the radio stations because they know that if their songs are played for free, we will buy the album.  They also know that if their songs <i>aren't</i> heard, sales will never take off.  I don't think that underneath it all they are concerned that "piracy" will hurt their sales; they are concerned that they are losing control of the "free" distribution, and they are afraid of technology they don't fully understand.</p><p>*Although, I've also found a large number of technically proficient people are also very musically inclined (myself excepted; I suck at playing music).  It may well be that many here are pissed off because the recording industry has turned out music that is the equivalent of a typical American beer; bland and mass-produced, succeeding on marketing instead of merit.</p></div><p>Well... The current "hot issue" is The *Pirate* Bay so it's understandable why the term is so widespread at the moment.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Piracy " essentially means armed robbery and murder on the high seas .
The recent abuse of the term to refer to unauthorized duplication is idiotic .
But of course , the more the media conglomerates and their toadies bellow " piracy " at the top of their lungs , the more a vapid and mostly uncritical public will eat it up , and eventually repeat it .
I 'm not justifying unauthorized duplication or redistribution ; I 'm just sick of the MP/RIAA 's bullshit .
They are organizations that have engaged in highly questionable practices for years , and still cling to their outdated gangster ways .
They have monopolized the public airwaves for years through payola schemes , to the detriment of artists and listeners .
I find it hard to shed a tear for them.Worse yet , their attacks have laid waste not just to independent artists and labels , but to promising technologies as well , which is probably what pisses off slashdotters more than anything else .
* File torrents are a legitimate source of lots of perfectly legal content , and enable small entities to put out content without paying for tons of bandwidth to do it .
Shutting down TPB is a slap in the face of lots of people who never " pirated " a song in their life.What really gets me is the hypocrisy , though .
The RIAA knows better than anyone that delivering free music to waiting ears is the best guarantee of album sales .
After all , that 's why they 've been caught in payola schemes over and over - they buy off the radio stations because they know that if their songs are played for free , we will buy the album .
They also know that if their songs are n't heard , sales will never take off .
I do n't think that underneath it all they are concerned that " piracy " will hurt their sales ; they are concerned that they are losing control of the " free " distribution , and they are afraid of technology they do n't fully understand .
* Although , I 've also found a large number of technically proficient people are also very musically inclined ( myself excepted ; I suck at playing music ) .
It may well be that many here are pissed off because the recording industry has turned out music that is the equivalent of a typical American beer ; bland and mass-produced , succeeding on marketing instead of merit.Well... The current " hot issue " is The * Pirate * Bay so it 's understandable why the term is so widespread at the moment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Piracy" essentially means armed robbery and murder on the high seas.
The recent abuse of the term to refer to unauthorized duplication is idiotic.
But of course, the more the media conglomerates and their toadies bellow "piracy" at the top of their lungs, the more a vapid and mostly uncritical public will eat it up, and eventually repeat it.
I'm not justifying unauthorized duplication or redistribution; I'm just sick of the MP/RIAA's bullshit.
They are organizations that have engaged in highly questionable practices for years, and still cling to their outdated gangster ways.
They have monopolized the public airwaves for years through payola schemes, to the detriment of artists and listeners.
I find it hard to shed a tear for them.Worse yet, their attacks have laid waste not just to independent artists and labels, but to promising technologies as well, which is probably what pisses off slashdotters more than anything else.
*  File torrents are a legitimate source of lots of perfectly legal content, and enable small entities to put out content without paying for tons of bandwidth to do it.
Shutting down TPB is a slap in the face of lots of people who never "pirated" a song in their life.What really gets me is the hypocrisy, though.
The RIAA knows better than anyone that delivering free music to waiting ears is the best guarantee of album sales.
After all, that's why they've been caught in payola schemes over and over - they buy off the radio stations because they know that if their songs are played for free, we will buy the album.
They also know that if their songs aren't heard, sales will never take off.
I don't think that underneath it all they are concerned that "piracy" will hurt their sales; they are concerned that they are losing control of the "free" distribution, and they are afraid of technology they don't fully understand.
*Although, I've also found a large number of technically proficient people are also very musically inclined (myself excepted; I suck at playing music).
It may well be that many here are pissed off because the recording industry has turned out music that is the equivalent of a typical American beer; bland and mass-produced, succeeding on marketing instead of merit.Well... The current "hot issue" is The *Pirate* Bay so it's understandable why the term is so widespread at the moment.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954906</id>
	<title>Re:60 Minutes</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1257156000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Similar to the ads about "if you do drugs, you're supporting terrorism"?</p><p>Odd, that, since the only money going to terrorist nations is their share of any fuel you might have burned while driving to the street corner.  So, ride your bicycle to get your fix and the link is broken.</p><p>"Terrorism" is the new obedience card.</p><p>Oh, yeah, that reminds me.  I'm low on sheet plastic and duct tape.  Gotta go...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Similar to the ads about " if you do drugs , you 're supporting terrorism " ? Odd , that , since the only money going to terrorist nations is their share of any fuel you might have burned while driving to the street corner .
So , ride your bicycle to get your fix and the link is broken .
" Terrorism " is the new obedience card.Oh , yeah , that reminds me .
I 'm low on sheet plastic and duct tape .
Got ta go.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Similar to the ads about "if you do drugs, you're supporting terrorism"?Odd, that, since the only money going to terrorist nations is their share of any fuel you might have burned while driving to the street corner.
So, ride your bicycle to get your fix and the link is broken.
"Terrorism" is the new obedience card.Oh, yeah, that reminds me.
I'm low on sheet plastic and duct tape.
Gotta go...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29958764</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257175080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Make software that people like, charge a reasonable price and they will pay for it. Make shitty software or charge too much? Kiss it goodbye.</p><p>Take "World of Goo" for instance. That had piracy rates "near 90\%". However here is the breakdown:</p><p>Total development cost over two years - $96,000</p><p>World of Goo revenue sources:<br>WiiWare - 55-60\%<br>2DBoy.com - 25\%<br>Steam - Unspecified, but growing in 2009 (12-18\%?)<br>Retail - 2-3\%<br>Sales on 2DBoy.com are 65\% PC, 25\% Mac, and 10\% Linux.</p><p>Best offer from a publisher was $700,000 plus 15\% royalties, which 2D Boy decided they could beat by going it alone.</p><p>No change in piracy rate between their game and a game with DRM. "Don't bother with DRM... it's a waste of time. Anybody who wants the game is going to find it on a BitTorrent site. We just don't see the point in trying to fight that."</p><p>A Steam 25\% off sale quadrupled revenues.</p><p>Know why they still made decent money? Because it was a game worth buying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Make software that people like , charge a reasonable price and they will pay for it .
Make shitty software or charge too much ?
Kiss it goodbye.Take " World of Goo " for instance .
That had piracy rates " near 90 \ % " .
However here is the breakdown : Total development cost over two years - $ 96,000World of Goo revenue sources : WiiWare - 55-60 \ % 2DBoy.com - 25 \ % Steam - Unspecified , but growing in 2009 ( 12-18 \ % ?
) Retail - 2-3 \ % Sales on 2DBoy.com are 65 \ % PC , 25 \ % Mac , and 10 \ % Linux.Best offer from a publisher was $ 700,000 plus 15 \ % royalties , which 2D Boy decided they could beat by going it alone.No change in piracy rate between their game and a game with DRM .
" Do n't bother with DRM... it 's a waste of time .
Anybody who wants the game is going to find it on a BitTorrent site .
We just do n't see the point in trying to fight that .
" A Steam 25 \ % off sale quadrupled revenues.Know why they still made decent money ?
Because it was a game worth buying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make software that people like, charge a reasonable price and they will pay for it.
Make shitty software or charge too much?
Kiss it goodbye.Take "World of Goo" for instance.
That had piracy rates "near 90\%".
However here is the breakdown:Total development cost over two years - $96,000World of Goo revenue sources:WiiWare - 55-60\%2DBoy.com - 25\%Steam - Unspecified, but growing in 2009 (12-18\%?
)Retail - 2-3\%Sales on 2DBoy.com are 65\% PC, 25\% Mac, and 10\% Linux.Best offer from a publisher was $700,000 plus 15\% royalties, which 2D Boy decided they could beat by going it alone.No change in piracy rate between their game and a game with DRM.
"Don't bother with DRM... it's a waste of time.
Anybody who wants the game is going to find it on a BitTorrent site.
We just don't see the point in trying to fight that.
"A Steam 25\% off sale quadrupled revenues.Know why they still made decent money?
Because it was a game worth buying.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29959158</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Fnord666</author>
	<datestamp>1257177360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>As a software developer attempting to earn a living by selling software to consumers, it pains me to see so many of these responses. Sometimes, when I visit slashdot and digg, I wonder why I try at all. So many of the commenters here believe that they have a right to get copies of my work for free, even though it takes years to construct it. Financially, I see no way to continue my work unless I can earn money by selling copies. The comments here scare me. It's like someone wrapping their hands around my throat and gleefully choking me, while discussing how happy they will be to dance on my grave. I write software that people like. I work hard at it, and I love what I do. But, the responses of so many people here are just scary. I am blamed for all kinds of imagined harms committed against them. I'm just a guy working and trying to earn a living from it, but somehow that gets turned into "they are 'robin hood' and I am the evil governor inflicting taxes on them".</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
The irony of this is simply delicious.  You are attempting to make a living by selling software <b>directly</b> to consumers.  In other words, you are not forced to deal with an intermediary distributor in order to make CDs/DVDs of your software for you, market your software for you, package and ship your software for you.  All for only a measly 70\% of your revenue.  If you could find someone willing to take on your software at all.  Instead you have incredible opportunities to market, sell and distribute your work on its own merit.
</p><p>
What you don't seem to realize is that 10-15 years ago, a software developer like yourself would have been in exactly the same position that the musical artists are in today.  What many here are simply trying to say is that 10 years from now they want other artists to have the same opportunities that you enjoy today.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a software developer attempting to earn a living by selling software to consumers , it pains me to see so many of these responses .
Sometimes , when I visit slashdot and digg , I wonder why I try at all .
So many of the commenters here believe that they have a right to get copies of my work for free , even though it takes years to construct it .
Financially , I see no way to continue my work unless I can earn money by selling copies .
The comments here scare me .
It 's like someone wrapping their hands around my throat and gleefully choking me , while discussing how happy they will be to dance on my grave .
I write software that people like .
I work hard at it , and I love what I do .
But , the responses of so many people here are just scary .
I am blamed for all kinds of imagined harms committed against them .
I 'm just a guy working and trying to earn a living from it , but somehow that gets turned into " they are 'robin hood ' and I am the evil governor inflicting taxes on them " .
The irony of this is simply delicious .
You are attempting to make a living by selling software directly to consumers .
In other words , you are not forced to deal with an intermediary distributor in order to make CDs/DVDs of your software for you , market your software for you , package and ship your software for you .
All for only a measly 70 \ % of your revenue .
If you could find someone willing to take on your software at all .
Instead you have incredible opportunities to market , sell and distribute your work on its own merit .
What you do n't seem to realize is that 10-15 years ago , a software developer like yourself would have been in exactly the same position that the musical artists are in today .
What many here are simply trying to say is that 10 years from now they want other artists to have the same opportunities that you enjoy today .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a software developer attempting to earn a living by selling software to consumers, it pains me to see so many of these responses.
Sometimes, when I visit slashdot and digg, I wonder why I try at all.
So many of the commenters here believe that they have a right to get copies of my work for free, even though it takes years to construct it.
Financially, I see no way to continue my work unless I can earn money by selling copies.
The comments here scare me.
It's like someone wrapping their hands around my throat and gleefully choking me, while discussing how happy they will be to dance on my grave.
I write software that people like.
I work hard at it, and I love what I do.
But, the responses of so many people here are just scary.
I am blamed for all kinds of imagined harms committed against them.
I'm just a guy working and trying to earn a living from it, but somehow that gets turned into "they are 'robin hood' and I am the evil governor inflicting taxes on them".
The irony of this is simply delicious.
You are attempting to make a living by selling software directly to consumers.
In other words, you are not forced to deal with an intermediary distributor in order to make CDs/DVDs of your software for you, market your software for you, package and ship your software for you.
All for only a measly 70\% of your revenue.
If you could find someone willing to take on your software at all.
Instead you have incredible opportunities to market, sell and distribute your work on its own merit.
What you don't seem to realize is that 10-15 years ago, a software developer like yourself would have been in exactly the same position that the musical artists are in today.
What many here are simply trying to say is that 10 years from now they want other artists to have the same opportunities that you enjoy today.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955856</id>
	<title>Re:Eh Sonny?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257160320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Give me the location of the rebel base and I will spare your home world?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Give me the location of the rebel base and I will spare your home world ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Give me the location of the rebel base and I will spare your home world?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954434</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954812</id>
	<title>The tag "haha" would be applicable here...</title>
	<author>HerculesMO</author>
	<datestamp>1257155520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am going to use "itoldyouso" as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am going to use " itoldyouso " as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am going to use "itoldyouso" as well.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955104</id>
	<title>duh...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257157080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>PirateBay isn't a web site, it's a culture. You can't stop culture with laws.</htmltext>
<tokenext>PirateBay is n't a web site , it 's a culture .
You ca n't stop culture with laws .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PirateBay isn't a web site, it's a culture.
You can't stop culture with laws.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955308</id>
	<title>Re:it's almost like...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257157800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why is this marked "Troll"?</p><p>He's right - calling sharing "selfish" is the height of stupidity.</p><p>Fucking idiot moderators.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is this marked " Troll " ? He 's right - calling sharing " selfish " is the height of stupidity.Fucking idiot moderators .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is this marked "Troll"?He's right - calling sharing "selfish" is the height of stupidity.Fucking idiot moderators.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29958612</id>
	<title>Re:Yep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257174240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's more of an anti-copying-our-product-for-free movement. It's just that P2P is the method du-jour lately. Though unlike desktop publishing compared to professional scribes. The masses aren't out there creating and playing their own games on a daily basis. I suppose I could pirate RPG maker and then make a super-nintendo era looking RPG. It wouldn't be quite as cool as Fallout 3 though. I doubt very many people would want to copy it either.</p><p>Maybe If I could get access to a staff of computer programmers, 3D artists, an IT staff, and some artists and people to manage that team for a $200 flat fee I could start releasing free games that will make everyone love me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's more of an anti-copying-our-product-for-free movement .
It 's just that P2P is the method du-jour lately .
Though unlike desktop publishing compared to professional scribes .
The masses are n't out there creating and playing their own games on a daily basis .
I suppose I could pirate RPG maker and then make a super-nintendo era looking RPG .
It would n't be quite as cool as Fallout 3 though .
I doubt very many people would want to copy it either.Maybe If I could get access to a staff of computer programmers , 3D artists , an IT staff , and some artists and people to manage that team for a $ 200 flat fee I could start releasing free games that will make everyone love me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's more of an anti-copying-our-product-for-free movement.
It's just that P2P is the method du-jour lately.
Though unlike desktop publishing compared to professional scribes.
The masses aren't out there creating and playing their own games on a daily basis.
I suppose I could pirate RPG maker and then make a super-nintendo era looking RPG.
It wouldn't be quite as cool as Fallout 3 though.
I doubt very many people would want to copy it either.Maybe If I could get access to a staff of computer programmers, 3D artists, an IT staff, and some artists and people to manage that team for a $200 flat fee I could start releasing free games that will make everyone love me.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955228</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257157560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Pirates buy more movies and music than non-pirates. That means pirates are the MPAA and RIAA's best customers. That's reason enough to be against piracy. Fuck the MPAA/RIAA.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pirates buy more movies and music than non-pirates .
That means pirates are the MPAA and RIAA 's best customers .
That 's reason enough to be against piracy .
Fuck the MPAA/RIAA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pirates buy more movies and music than non-pirates.
That means pirates are the MPAA and RIAA's best customers.
That's reason enough to be against piracy.
Fuck the MPAA/RIAA.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29959344</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257178920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most of the posters here are saying that people who trade in information (software, movies, music, etc.) need to find another way to make their money.  Movie makers can sell movie tickets, special-edition DVDs, product placements, etc.  Musicians can sell live concerts.</p><p>Software developers like yourself could sell support for your products.  If you offer updates over the internet, only allow legitimate copies to download.  DRM could actually help here, so long as it's non-intrusive DRM.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of the posters here are saying that people who trade in information ( software , movies , music , etc .
) need to find another way to make their money .
Movie makers can sell movie tickets , special-edition DVDs , product placements , etc .
Musicians can sell live concerts.Software developers like yourself could sell support for your products .
If you offer updates over the internet , only allow legitimate copies to download .
DRM could actually help here , so long as it 's non-intrusive DRM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of the posters here are saying that people who trade in information (software, movies, music, etc.
) need to find another way to make their money.
Movie makers can sell movie tickets, special-edition DVDs, product placements, etc.
Musicians can sell live concerts.Software developers like yourself could sell support for your products.
If you offer updates over the internet, only allow legitimate copies to download.
DRM could actually help here, so long as it's non-intrusive DRM.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954856</id>
	<title>Re:Solving the wrong problem?</title>
	<author>jshackney</author>
	<datestamp>1257155760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They should probably try offering a pay service (either subscription or per-view) to access content online even when it comes out.</p></div><p>Exactly. You and I know this is probably a brilliant idea. Convincing media executives is another thing entirely. I would gladly pay for much of the programming I formerly enjoyed before I dropped my cable. I just couldn't justify the ridiculous monthly costs for 120 channels when I never watched 95.8\% of them. I get the vast majority of my programming from the network sites now, or someplace like Hulu.</p><p>When it comes to movies, they're so horrifically bad that I can't bring myself to part with cash only to walk out before the film is half over. What's worse, there are few movies even worth considering going to watch in the theater. But that's another commentary. Just let us grab the movies/programming a-la-carte sans the middle-man.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They should probably try offering a pay service ( either subscription or per-view ) to access content online even when it comes out.Exactly .
You and I know this is probably a brilliant idea .
Convincing media executives is another thing entirely .
I would gladly pay for much of the programming I formerly enjoyed before I dropped my cable .
I just could n't justify the ridiculous monthly costs for 120 channels when I never watched 95.8 \ % of them .
I get the vast majority of my programming from the network sites now , or someplace like Hulu.When it comes to movies , they 're so horrifically bad that I ca n't bring myself to part with cash only to walk out before the film is half over .
What 's worse , there are few movies even worth considering going to watch in the theater .
But that 's another commentary .
Just let us grab the movies/programming a-la-carte sans the middle-man .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They should probably try offering a pay service (either subscription or per-view) to access content online even when it comes out.Exactly.
You and I know this is probably a brilliant idea.
Convincing media executives is another thing entirely.
I would gladly pay for much of the programming I formerly enjoyed before I dropped my cable.
I just couldn't justify the ridiculous monthly costs for 120 channels when I never watched 95.8\% of them.
I get the vast majority of my programming from the network sites now, or someplace like Hulu.When it comes to movies, they're so horrifically bad that I can't bring myself to part with cash only to walk out before the film is half over.
What's worse, there are few movies even worth considering going to watch in the theater.
But that's another commentary.
Just let us grab the movies/programming a-la-carte sans the middle-man.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954560</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29960220</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257186720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've briefly looked through your comments, and can see that you have a very one track mind.  You are not specifying the product that you are creating, so how are we to trust that you are not some sort of shill.  Why not give an actual example of how pirates are ruining you livelihood?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've briefly looked through your comments , and can see that you have a very one track mind .
You are not specifying the product that you are creating , so how are we to trust that you are not some sort of shill .
Why not give an actual example of how pirates are ruining you livelihood ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've briefly looked through your comments, and can see that you have a very one track mind.
You are not specifying the product that you are creating, so how are we to trust that you are not some sort of shill.
Why not give an actual example of how pirates are ruining you livelihood?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954560</id>
	<title>Solving the wrong problem?</title>
	<author>DeadDecoy</author>
	<datestamp>1257154380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It seems to be that media outlets are solving the wrong problem. If pirated movies, software, etc pop up everywhere then that indicates a high demand for a particular service or product. Especially when their illegitimate services are probably being operated at bare minimum cost to provide terabytes of content and bandwidth. They should probably try offering a pay service (either subscription or per-view) to access content online even when it comes out. Naturally there will be people who don't want to pay anything, but there might be a marginal market for this kind of thing. Either way, the research would be interesting. And, if pay+hd content or commercial+normal quality can't compete with free+crappy telesync, then maybe the media industry isn't losing enough money to whine about?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems to be that media outlets are solving the wrong problem .
If pirated movies , software , etc pop up everywhere then that indicates a high demand for a particular service or product .
Especially when their illegitimate services are probably being operated at bare minimum cost to provide terabytes of content and bandwidth .
They should probably try offering a pay service ( either subscription or per-view ) to access content online even when it comes out .
Naturally there will be people who do n't want to pay anything , but there might be a marginal market for this kind of thing .
Either way , the research would be interesting .
And , if pay + hd content or commercial + normal quality ca n't compete with free + crappy telesync , then maybe the media industry is n't losing enough money to whine about ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems to be that media outlets are solving the wrong problem.
If pirated movies, software, etc pop up everywhere then that indicates a high demand for a particular service or product.
Especially when their illegitimate services are probably being operated at bare minimum cost to provide terabytes of content and bandwidth.
They should probably try offering a pay service (either subscription or per-view) to access content online even when it comes out.
Naturally there will be people who don't want to pay anything, but there might be a marginal market for this kind of thing.
Either way, the research would be interesting.
And, if pay+hd content or commercial+normal quality can't compete with free+crappy telesync, then maybe the media industry isn't losing enough money to whine about?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955414</id>
	<title>Re:Buzzwords, because thinking is hard</title>
	<author>houghi</author>
	<datestamp>1257158280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.cloudclothing.co.nz/downloads.html" title="cloudclothing.co.nz">http://www.cloudclothing.co.nz/downloads.html</a> [cloudclothing.co.nz]<br>Something like this you mean?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.cloudclothing.co.nz/downloads.html [ cloudclothing.co.nz ] Something like this you mean ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.cloudclothing.co.nz/downloads.html [cloudclothing.co.nz]Something like this you mean?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29956816</id>
	<title>Re:Pirate Bay is closed?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257165540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You sure?</p><p>http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/thepiratebay.org</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You sure ? http : //downforeveryoneorjustme.com/thepiratebay.org</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You sure?http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/thepiratebay.org</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29965094</id>
	<title>Re:The problem are Theaters</title>
	<author>Taibhsear</author>
	<datestamp>1257271080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They won't do PPV though because we have HDTV's and surround sound. We also have friends and family that would all watch the same movie for the price of one ticket. They want you to go to the theatre because one person = one ticket. Frankly I like going to the theatre as long as it isn't packed and pretty much only for horror or comedies. You get the feeling of a community and you get to hear people's reactions and quips (much like a live MST3K). In serious movies though it's pretty annoying. I've had my share of chapstick dick people as well in the theatre but I just can't make microwave popcorn that tastes anything like the crack laced stuff from the theatre. Thankfully a nearby theatre has a great special ($6 for movie and small popcorn on tuesdays) which is totally worth it for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They wo n't do PPV though because we have HDTV 's and surround sound .
We also have friends and family that would all watch the same movie for the price of one ticket .
They want you to go to the theatre because one person = one ticket .
Frankly I like going to the theatre as long as it is n't packed and pretty much only for horror or comedies .
You get the feeling of a community and you get to hear people 's reactions and quips ( much like a live MST3K ) .
In serious movies though it 's pretty annoying .
I 've had my share of chapstick dick people as well in the theatre but I just ca n't make microwave popcorn that tastes anything like the crack laced stuff from the theatre .
Thankfully a nearby theatre has a great special ( $ 6 for movie and small popcorn on tuesdays ) which is totally worth it for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They won't do PPV though because we have HDTV's and surround sound.
We also have friends and family that would all watch the same movie for the price of one ticket.
They want you to go to the theatre because one person = one ticket.
Frankly I like going to the theatre as long as it isn't packed and pretty much only for horror or comedies.
You get the feeling of a community and you get to hear people's reactions and quips (much like a live MST3K).
In serious movies though it's pretty annoying.
I've had my share of chapstick dick people as well in the theatre but I just can't make microwave popcorn that tastes anything like the crack laced stuff from the theatre.
Thankfully a nearby theatre has a great special ($6 for movie and small popcorn on tuesdays) which is totally worth it for me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29988418</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>arevos</author>
	<datestamp>1256994600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't see how piracy is an idiotic term, especially from the standpoint of the people whose products are being stolen.</p></div><p>Piracy is a term used to refer to copyright infringement, not theft.</p><p>It's idiotic because the use of violence to rob ships at sea, is rather different act than copying data without the author's permission.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see how piracy is an idiotic term , especially from the standpoint of the people whose products are being stolen.Piracy is a term used to refer to copyright infringement , not theft.It 's idiotic because the use of violence to rob ships at sea , is rather different act than copying data without the author 's permission .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see how piracy is an idiotic term, especially from the standpoint of the people whose products are being stolen.Piracy is a term used to refer to copyright infringement, not theft.It's idiotic because the use of violence to rob ships at sea, is rather different act than copying data without the author's permission.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954676</id>
	<title>Re:Yep</title>
	<author>MightyMartian</author>
	<datestamp>1257154980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The idea that the media industry should be different than any other historical industry is quite beyond me.  The printing press pretty much killed one of the most ancient occupations of literate civilization; the professional scribe.  I'm sure lots of scribes were pretty pissed that some asshole German and his machine not only stabbed their profession in the heart, but did it with what was really a substandard result (look at illuminated manuscripts and then look at the Gutenberg Bible, it's the 128bit MP3 of its day!)</p><p>No occupation or technology is guaranteed infinite supremacy.  No law can do it, not without extraordinary harm.  Late feudal Japan tried banning firearms and other forms of modern warfare to stave off the collapse of the feudal system, and then by the Meiji period was bringing in every foreign expert they could to bring them up to speed before they became a two-bit colonial rape victim like China.</p><p>What I'm afraid of is that the anti-P2P movement will become like the War on Drugs, an unwinnable contest, but one with sufficient amounts of money being made by the so-called enforcers that they'll just keep trying to stop what they know they never can, under the strange idea that if you can criminalize enough people, somehow they'll eventually stop.</p><p>I think every country should adopt a new clause in their constitution; the "Stupid Ideas Tried Before Clause" that would have anyone who passes a law to try a scheme proven one or more times to be unenforceable to be removed from office permanently.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The idea that the media industry should be different than any other historical industry is quite beyond me .
The printing press pretty much killed one of the most ancient occupations of literate civilization ; the professional scribe .
I 'm sure lots of scribes were pretty pissed that some asshole German and his machine not only stabbed their profession in the heart , but did it with what was really a substandard result ( look at illuminated manuscripts and then look at the Gutenberg Bible , it 's the 128bit MP3 of its day !
) No occupation or technology is guaranteed infinite supremacy .
No law can do it , not without extraordinary harm .
Late feudal Japan tried banning firearms and other forms of modern warfare to stave off the collapse of the feudal system , and then by the Meiji period was bringing in every foreign expert they could to bring them up to speed before they became a two-bit colonial rape victim like China.What I 'm afraid of is that the anti-P2P movement will become like the War on Drugs , an unwinnable contest , but one with sufficient amounts of money being made by the so-called enforcers that they 'll just keep trying to stop what they know they never can , under the strange idea that if you can criminalize enough people , somehow they 'll eventually stop.I think every country should adopt a new clause in their constitution ; the " Stupid Ideas Tried Before Clause " that would have anyone who passes a law to try a scheme proven one or more times to be unenforceable to be removed from office permanently .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The idea that the media industry should be different than any other historical industry is quite beyond me.
The printing press pretty much killed one of the most ancient occupations of literate civilization; the professional scribe.
I'm sure lots of scribes were pretty pissed that some asshole German and his machine not only stabbed their profession in the heart, but did it with what was really a substandard result (look at illuminated manuscripts and then look at the Gutenberg Bible, it's the 128bit MP3 of its day!
)No occupation or technology is guaranteed infinite supremacy.
No law can do it, not without extraordinary harm.
Late feudal Japan tried banning firearms and other forms of modern warfare to stave off the collapse of the feudal system, and then by the Meiji period was bringing in every foreign expert they could to bring them up to speed before they became a two-bit colonial rape victim like China.What I'm afraid of is that the anti-P2P movement will become like the War on Drugs, an unwinnable contest, but one with sufficient amounts of money being made by the so-called enforcers that they'll just keep trying to stop what they know they never can, under the strange idea that if you can criminalize enough people, somehow they'll eventually stop.I think every country should adopt a new clause in their constitution; the "Stupid Ideas Tried Before Clause" that would have anyone who passes a law to try a scheme proven one or more times to be unenforceable to be removed from office permanently.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29956466</id>
	<title>Re:it's almost like...</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1257163440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;&gt;people who are sharing cultural works with others for free</p><p>Where?  Certainly not the RIAA or MPAA</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; &gt; people who are sharing cultural works with others for freeWhere ?
Certainly not the RIAA or MPAA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;&gt;people who are sharing cultural works with others for freeWhere?
Certainly not the RIAA or MPAA</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29964238</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1257267420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>What really gets me is the hypocrisy, though. The RIAA knows better than anyone that delivering free music to waiting ears is the best guarantee of album sales.</i></p><p>Which is wh they are at war with p2p and internet radio. The RIAA has terrestrial radio and SIRIUS, the indies don't. Their war isn't really with music downloaders, it's with indie labels.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What really gets me is the hypocrisy , though .
The RIAA knows better than anyone that delivering free music to waiting ears is the best guarantee of album sales.Which is wh they are at war with p2p and internet radio .
The RIAA has terrestrial radio and SIRIUS , the indies do n't .
Their war is n't really with music downloaders , it 's with indie labels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What really gets me is the hypocrisy, though.
The RIAA knows better than anyone that delivering free music to waiting ears is the best guarantee of album sales.Which is wh they are at war with p2p and internet radio.
The RIAA has terrestrial radio and SIRIUS, the indies don't.
Their war isn't really with music downloaders, it's with indie labels.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29959036</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257176460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Quit crying and get a new job.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Quit crying and get a new job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quit crying and get a new job.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29956064</id>
	<title>Re:Yep</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1257161220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Keep trying, suits.</p><p>For every Web site you shut down; for every IRC server you pay to have DDoSed; for every eMule node you raid; five more will spring up in their place.</p></div><p>That is until TPM becomes mandatory, then the man can tell you what file you are allowed to have.  Sure a few people will get past it, but 99\% wont. Game over.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Keep trying , suits.For every Web site you shut down ; for every IRC server you pay to have DDoSed ; for every eMule node you raid ; five more will spring up in their place.That is until TPM becomes mandatory , then the man can tell you what file you are allowed to have .
Sure a few people will get past it , but 99 \ % wont .
Game over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Keep trying, suits.For every Web site you shut down; for every IRC server you pay to have DDoSed; for every eMule node you raid; five more will spring up in their place.That is until TPM becomes mandatory, then the man can tell you what file you are allowed to have.
Sure a few people will get past it, but 99\% wont.
Game over.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955926</id>
	<title>Re:Yep</title>
	<author>value\_added</author>
	<datestamp>1257160620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>For every Web site you shut down; for every IRC server you pay to have DDoSed; for every eMule node you raid; five more will spring up in their place<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</i></p><p>Dude, 1995 called<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><blockquote><div><p>This is our world now. The world of the electron and the switch; the beauty of the baud. We exist without nationality, skin color, or religious bias. You wage wars, murder, cheat, lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals. Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto." Huh? Right? Manifesto? "You may stop me, but you can't stop us all."</p></div></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.hacktheplanet.com/" title="hacktheplanet.com">Claim your prize here.</a> [hacktheplanet.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For every Web site you shut down ; for every IRC server you pay to have DDoSed ; for every eMule node you raid ; five more will spring up in their place ...Dude , 1995 called ...This is our world now .
The world of the electron and the switch ; the beauty of the baud .
We exist without nationality , skin color , or religious bias .
You wage wars , murder , cheat , lie to us and try to make us believe it 's for our own good , yet we 're the criminals .
Yes , I am a criminal .
My crime is that of curiosity .
I am a hacker , and this is my manifesto .
" Huh ?
Right ? Manifesto ?
" You may stop me , but you ca n't stop us all .
" Claim your prize here .
[ hacktheplanet.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For every Web site you shut down; for every IRC server you pay to have DDoSed; for every eMule node you raid; five more will spring up in their place ...Dude, 1995 called ...This is our world now.
The world of the electron and the switch; the beauty of the baud.
We exist without nationality, skin color, or religious bias.
You wage wars, murder, cheat, lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.
Yes, I am a criminal.
My crime is that of curiosity.
I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto.
" Huh?
Right? Manifesto?
"You may stop me, but you can't stop us all.
"Claim your prize here.
[hacktheplanet.com]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954510</id>
	<title>Buzzwords, because thinking is hard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257154140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is cloud computing like buying another pair of pants is cloud clothing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is cloud computing like buying another pair of pants is cloud clothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is cloud computing like buying another pair of pants is cloud clothing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29961936</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>BrightSpark</author>
	<datestamp>1257251820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"Piracy" essentially means armed robbery and murder on the high seas.  The recent abuse of the term to refer to unauthorized duplication is idiotic.</p> </div><p>Actually, this modern usage of the term "piracy" in relation to media probably stems from the 1970s pirate radio stations which broadcast alternative songs by radio from ships offshore in international waters just outside the legal limits of the country concerned. This allowed them to (a) broadcast what they liked and not what the media machines wanted and (b) to avoid certain "costs"...

Needless to say, the media machines got their way. Here is one of several sites that describe those halcyon days.
<a href="http://www.offshoreradio.co.uk/" title="offshoreradio.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.offshoreradio.co.uk/</a> [offshoreradio.co.uk]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Piracy " essentially means armed robbery and murder on the high seas .
The recent abuse of the term to refer to unauthorized duplication is idiotic .
Actually , this modern usage of the term " piracy " in relation to media probably stems from the 1970s pirate radio stations which broadcast alternative songs by radio from ships offshore in international waters just outside the legal limits of the country concerned .
This allowed them to ( a ) broadcast what they liked and not what the media machines wanted and ( b ) to avoid certain " costs " .. . Needless to say , the media machines got their way .
Here is one of several sites that describe those halcyon days .
http : //www.offshoreradio.co.uk/ [ offshoreradio.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Piracy" essentially means armed robbery and murder on the high seas.
The recent abuse of the term to refer to unauthorized duplication is idiotic.
Actually, this modern usage of the term "piracy" in relation to media probably stems from the 1970s pirate radio stations which broadcast alternative songs by radio from ships offshore in international waters just outside the legal limits of the country concerned.
This allowed them to (a) broadcast what they liked and not what the media machines wanted and (b) to avoid certain "costs"...

Needless to say, the media machines got their way.
Here is one of several sites that describe those halcyon days.
http://www.offshoreradio.co.uk/ [offshoreradio.co.uk]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29965548</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1257273000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"Piracy" essentially means armed robbery and murder on the high seas.  The recent abuse of the term to refer to unauthorized duplication is idiotic.  But of course, the more the media conglomerates and their toadies bellow "piracy" at the top of their lungs, the more a vapid and mostly uncritical public will eat it up, and eventually repeat it.  I'm not justifying unauthorized duplication or redistribution; I'm just sick of the MP/RIAA's bull****.  They are organizations that have engaged in highly question</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Piracy " essentially means armed robbery and murder on the high seas .
The recent abuse of the term to refer to unauthorized duplication is idiotic .
But of course , the more the media conglomerates and their toadies bellow " piracy " at the top of their lungs , the more a vapid and mostly uncritical public will eat it up , and eventually repeat it .
I 'm not justifying unauthorized duplication or redistribution ; I 'm just sick of the MP/RIAA 's bull * * * * .
They are organizations that have engaged in highly question</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Piracy" essentially means armed robbery and murder on the high seas.
The recent abuse of the term to refer to unauthorized duplication is idiotic.
But of course, the more the media conglomerates and their toadies bellow "piracy" at the top of their lungs, the more a vapid and mostly uncritical public will eat it up, and eventually repeat it.
I'm not justifying unauthorized duplication or redistribution; I'm just sick of the MP/RIAA's bull****.
They are organizations that have engaged in highly question
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955602</id>
	<title>Re:Eh Sonny?</title>
	<author>monkeyboythom</author>
	<datestamp>1257159300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a twahp!</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a twahp !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a twahp!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29957542</id>
	<title>John 2:19</title>
	<author>message144</author>
	<datestamp>1257169140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jesus answered them , " Destroy this temple , and I will raise it again in three days .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29960510</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>AcidPenguin9873</author>
	<datestamp>1257189600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Amen, brother.  I've been fighting the Slashdot anti-copyright propaganda machine for about a year now (check my comment history), and I'm getting pretty sick of it.  It's an interesting point you make about the Pirate Party and other anti-copyright groups infiltrating tech websites.  I hadn't considered it before, but the more I think about it, the more it seems likely to be true.</p><p>On a related note, I've been looking for a new science/technology/social site to replace Slashdot (one without the anti-copyright bias), but haven't found a good one yet.  Have you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Amen , brother .
I 've been fighting the Slashdot anti-copyright propaganda machine for about a year now ( check my comment history ) , and I 'm getting pretty sick of it .
It 's an interesting point you make about the Pirate Party and other anti-copyright groups infiltrating tech websites .
I had n't considered it before , but the more I think about it , the more it seems likely to be true.On a related note , I 've been looking for a new science/technology/social site to replace Slashdot ( one without the anti-copyright bias ) , but have n't found a good one yet .
Have you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amen, brother.
I've been fighting the Slashdot anti-copyright propaganda machine for about a year now (check my comment history), and I'm getting pretty sick of it.
It's an interesting point you make about the Pirate Party and other anti-copyright groups infiltrating tech websites.
I hadn't considered it before, but the more I think about it, the more it seems likely to be true.On a related note, I've been looking for a new science/technology/social site to replace Slashdot (one without the anti-copyright bias), but haven't found a good one yet.
Have you?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954742</id>
	<title>Re:Eh Sonny?</title>
	<author>Conspiracy\_Of\_Doves</author>
	<datestamp>1257155220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Strike me down and i will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Strike me down and i will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Strike me down and i will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955932</id>
	<title>Re:Yep</title>
	<author>phantomfive</author>
	<datestamp>1257160620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't worry, there are lots of unwinnable wars going on, the war on drugs, the war on murder, the war  on war, the war on rape, the war on prostitution. The fact that a war is not winnable is no argument for not fighting it.<br> <br>
Most people will agree that it is worth fighting the war on murder, even though it will never be won.  Record companies feel it is worth fighting the war on file-sharing, even if it is never won. And since they have done a cost-benefit analysis on that decision (which of course is different than the statistics they release publicly), they are probably right, it does benefit them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't worry , there are lots of unwinnable wars going on , the war on drugs , the war on murder , the war on war , the war on rape , the war on prostitution .
The fact that a war is not winnable is no argument for not fighting it .
Most people will agree that it is worth fighting the war on murder , even though it will never be won .
Record companies feel it is worth fighting the war on file-sharing , even if it is never won .
And since they have done a cost-benefit analysis on that decision ( which of course is different than the statistics they release publicly ) , they are probably right , it does benefit them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't worry, there are lots of unwinnable wars going on, the war on drugs, the war on murder, the war  on war, the war on rape, the war on prostitution.
The fact that a war is not winnable is no argument for not fighting it.
Most people will agree that it is worth fighting the war on murder, even though it will never be won.
Record companies feel it is worth fighting the war on file-sharing, even if it is never won.
And since they have done a cost-benefit analysis on that decision (which of course is different than the statistics they release publicly), they are probably right, it does benefit them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29960646</id>
	<title>Ya think?</title>
	<author>FrankDrebin</author>
	<datestamp>1257190980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>..increase in the number of sites providing access to copyright files...</p></div></blockquote><p>
Well that's no surprise since the web keeps growing, and <i>every goddamned website on the internet provides access to copyrighted files</i>.
</p><p>
Of course the article means access to files without permission of the copyright holder.  Call it pedantic if you will, but these turns of phrase affect public opinion.  Remember <i>Animal Farm</i>?  "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."  That's right *their* copyright is worth more.
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	</htmltext>
<tokenext>..increase in the number of sites providing access to copyright files.. . Well that 's no surprise since the web keeps growing , and every goddamned website on the internet provides access to copyrighted files .
Of course the article means access to files without permission of the copyright holder .
Call it pedantic if you will , but these turns of phrase affect public opinion .
Remember Animal Farm ?
" All animals are equal , but some are more equal than others .
" That 's right * their * copyright is worth more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..increase in the number of sites providing access to copyright files...
Well that's no surprise since the web keeps growing, and every goddamned website on the internet provides access to copyrighted files.
Of course the article means access to files without permission of the copyright holder.
Call it pedantic if you will, but these turns of phrase affect public opinion.
Remember Animal Farm?
"All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.
"  That's right *their* copyright is worth more.

	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955478</id>
	<title>Re:duh...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257158700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"PirateBay isn't a web site, it's [greed]. You can't stop [greed] with laws."

There!  Fixed that for you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" PirateBay is n't a web site , it 's [ greed ] .
You ca n't stop [ greed ] with laws .
" There !
Fixed that for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"PirateBay isn't a web site, it's [greed].
You can't stop [greed] with laws.
"

There!
Fixed that for you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954566</id>
	<title>Ooh, that reminds me...</title>
	<author>URL Scruggs</author>
	<datestamp>1257154380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...I need to download Curb Your Enthusiasm. And why do Channel 4 force me to watch the Daily Show 3 days after the news happens? Grrr.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...I need to download Curb Your Enthusiasm .
And why do Channel 4 force me to watch the Daily Show 3 days after the news happens ?
Grrr .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...I need to download Curb Your Enthusiasm.
And why do Channel 4 force me to watch the Daily Show 3 days after the news happens?
Grrr.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955806</id>
	<title>Re:Solving the wrong problem?</title>
	<author>keytoe</author>
	<datestamp>1257160140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, I'll pay for this service.</p><p>My cable DVR is a pain in the ass. I can't watch shows I've recorded on my living room DVR in the bedroom unless I sign up for a second DRV (and record it twice). The shows I set up to record constantly chop 1-10 seconds off either end. I frequently end up with multiple copies of a given show because the DVR is too stupid to recognize that it has already recorded it.</p><p>The On Demand content is no better assuming you can even penetrate the byzantine and constantly changing menu system they foist upon you. You never know if or when a given show will be available on On Demand unless you drill down and look, which is only useful to know if it's on there <b>right now</b>. No indication as to whether or not it ever will show up - or when. Then there are the multiple listings with slightly different spellings. It's as if they hired myopic monkeys to hand enter all the metadata. If you want to see exactly how bad an interface can be, try watching a few music videos on Comcast's On Demand service.</p><p>I ran a MythTV box for several years and it was purely a joy to use (once configured). The cable company subsequently went pure digital and I upgraded to an HD setup in the living room, so that ended that. But I miss the days of a system that did exactly what I wanted it to. At the moment, the only thing that brings me anywhere near as much joy is Netflix Watch Instantly - and that's with an incredibly limited catalog of relatively stale content.</p><p>Frankly, I'm over it. I only want a tiny fraction of the content they're offering, but I'm paying for all of it - and it'll only come to me in a format that is a huge pain in my ass. I buy all my music now that I can purchase MP3s (or AACs) directly, conveniently and without DRM, but that model doesn't work for television shows. I don't need to OWN a copy of last week's The Office. I need to watch it exactly <b>once</b>.</p><p>Sell me a PirateBay torrent service. I already have a computer hooked to all of my TVs, so you don't even need to invest in any hardware. I figure I have roughly $60 per month that is going to the cable company right now, and whoever can deliver this to me can have that. If not, I think I'll just cancel my cable and start in on the piracy. Nobody seems interested in giving me the service that I want, so why not?</p><p>PS - I don't give a shit if ESPN will bitch that you can't bundle their channels to me with this model. Suck it up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , I 'll pay for this service.My cable DVR is a pain in the ass .
I ca n't watch shows I 've recorded on my living room DVR in the bedroom unless I sign up for a second DRV ( and record it twice ) .
The shows I set up to record constantly chop 1-10 seconds off either end .
I frequently end up with multiple copies of a given show because the DVR is too stupid to recognize that it has already recorded it.The On Demand content is no better assuming you can even penetrate the byzantine and constantly changing menu system they foist upon you .
You never know if or when a given show will be available on On Demand unless you drill down and look , which is only useful to know if it 's on there right now .
No indication as to whether or not it ever will show up - or when .
Then there are the multiple listings with slightly different spellings .
It 's as if they hired myopic monkeys to hand enter all the metadata .
If you want to see exactly how bad an interface can be , try watching a few music videos on Comcast 's On Demand service.I ran a MythTV box for several years and it was purely a joy to use ( once configured ) .
The cable company subsequently went pure digital and I upgraded to an HD setup in the living room , so that ended that .
But I miss the days of a system that did exactly what I wanted it to .
At the moment , the only thing that brings me anywhere near as much joy is Netflix Watch Instantly - and that 's with an incredibly limited catalog of relatively stale content.Frankly , I 'm over it .
I only want a tiny fraction of the content they 're offering , but I 'm paying for all of it - and it 'll only come to me in a format that is a huge pain in my ass .
I buy all my music now that I can purchase MP3s ( or AACs ) directly , conveniently and without DRM , but that model does n't work for television shows .
I do n't need to OWN a copy of last week 's The Office .
I need to watch it exactly once.Sell me a PirateBay torrent service .
I already have a computer hooked to all of my TVs , so you do n't even need to invest in any hardware .
I figure I have roughly $ 60 per month that is going to the cable company right now , and whoever can deliver this to me can have that .
If not , I think I 'll just cancel my cable and start in on the piracy .
Nobody seems interested in giving me the service that I want , so why not ? PS - I do n't give a shit if ESPN will bitch that you ca n't bundle their channels to me with this model .
Suck it up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, I'll pay for this service.My cable DVR is a pain in the ass.
I can't watch shows I've recorded on my living room DVR in the bedroom unless I sign up for a second DRV (and record it twice).
The shows I set up to record constantly chop 1-10 seconds off either end.
I frequently end up with multiple copies of a given show because the DVR is too stupid to recognize that it has already recorded it.The On Demand content is no better assuming you can even penetrate the byzantine and constantly changing menu system they foist upon you.
You never know if or when a given show will be available on On Demand unless you drill down and look, which is only useful to know if it's on there right now.
No indication as to whether or not it ever will show up - or when.
Then there are the multiple listings with slightly different spellings.
It's as if they hired myopic monkeys to hand enter all the metadata.
If you want to see exactly how bad an interface can be, try watching a few music videos on Comcast's On Demand service.I ran a MythTV box for several years and it was purely a joy to use (once configured).
The cable company subsequently went pure digital and I upgraded to an HD setup in the living room, so that ended that.
But I miss the days of a system that did exactly what I wanted it to.
At the moment, the only thing that brings me anywhere near as much joy is Netflix Watch Instantly - and that's with an incredibly limited catalog of relatively stale content.Frankly, I'm over it.
I only want a tiny fraction of the content they're offering, but I'm paying for all of it - and it'll only come to me in a format that is a huge pain in my ass.
I buy all my music now that I can purchase MP3s (or AACs) directly, conveniently and without DRM, but that model doesn't work for television shows.
I don't need to OWN a copy of last week's The Office.
I need to watch it exactly once.Sell me a PirateBay torrent service.
I already have a computer hooked to all of my TVs, so you don't even need to invest in any hardware.
I figure I have roughly $60 per month that is going to the cable company right now, and whoever can deliver this to me can have that.
If not, I think I'll just cancel my cable and start in on the piracy.
Nobody seems interested in giving me the service that I want, so why not?PS - I don't give a shit if ESPN will bitch that you can't bundle their channels to me with this model.
Suck it up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29958802</id>
	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257175260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>F off, we were calling ourselves pirates before the media even knew it was going on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>F off , we were calling ourselves pirates before the media even knew it was going on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>F off, we were calling ourselves pirates before the media even knew it was going on.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955032</id>
	<title>Re:War on Drugs</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1257156720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Drug dealers would be on the level of seeders. This is like going after the top drug kingpins and wondering why it doesn't crumble like a house of cards. Except the kingpins aren't actually kingpins and the torrents are as easy to come by as getting a business card off a salesman. They're <a href="http://www.viking.no/e/people/e-knud.htm" title="viking.no">King Canute</a> [viking.no] commanding the tide not to roll in. Let's hope they don't learn any lessons from the Dutch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Drug dealers would be on the level of seeders .
This is like going after the top drug kingpins and wondering why it does n't crumble like a house of cards .
Except the kingpins are n't actually kingpins and the torrents are as easy to come by as getting a business card off a salesman .
They 're King Canute [ viking.no ] commanding the tide not to roll in .
Let 's hope they do n't learn any lessons from the Dutch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Drug dealers would be on the level of seeders.
This is like going after the top drug kingpins and wondering why it doesn't crumble like a house of cards.
Except the kingpins aren't actually kingpins and the torrents are as easy to come by as getting a business card off a salesman.
They're King Canute [viking.no] commanding the tide not to roll in.
Let's hope they don't learn any lessons from the Dutch.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955816</id>
	<title>Re:Solving the wrong problem?</title>
	<author>Nithendil</author>
	<datestamp>1257160200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would say this sort of happened with mp3s and when they saw the true market value of them (about $0.32) they wet themselves and went apeshit with DRM until customers back-lashed at them, and now we finally have a somewhat fair but overpriced mp3 market.

So when they do pony up and offer a movie download solution I'm sure it will be laden with DRM and overpriced. Except this time the DRM will stay, because the movie industry in its current form would never accept consumer friendly movies. Because movie executives are wetting themselves at seeing the real value of movies, about a dollar (Redbox).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would say this sort of happened with mp3s and when they saw the true market value of them ( about $ 0.32 ) they wet themselves and went apeshit with DRM until customers back-lashed at them , and now we finally have a somewhat fair but overpriced mp3 market .
So when they do pony up and offer a movie download solution I 'm sure it will be laden with DRM and overpriced .
Except this time the DRM will stay , because the movie industry in its current form would never accept consumer friendly movies .
Because movie executives are wetting themselves at seeing the real value of movies , about a dollar ( Redbox ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would say this sort of happened with mp3s and when they saw the true market value of them (about $0.32) they wet themselves and went apeshit with DRM until customers back-lashed at them, and now we finally have a somewhat fair but overpriced mp3 market.
So when they do pony up and offer a movie download solution I'm sure it will be laden with DRM and overpriced.
Except this time the DRM will stay, because the movie industry in its current form would never accept consumer friendly movies.
Because movie executives are wetting themselves at seeing the real value of movies, about a dollar (Redbox).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955588</id>
	<title>Scribes lasted until the copying machine</title>
	<author>davidwr</author>
	<datestamp>1257159240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Western-alphabet movable-type printing press was invented half a millennium ago, likely independently of similar inventions in the Far East a few centuries earlier.</p><p>The typewriter as it was known in the early 20th century was invented in 1870.</p><p>The low-cost photocopier was popularized in the 1960s and 1970s.</p><p>Prior to the invention of the typewriter, it wasn't uncommon for legal documents to be written by hand, so you needed someone to put the words down on paper formally.</p><p>Prior to computers entering executive offices and executives and managers learning to type at a reasonable speed, secretaries or administrative assistants took dictation.</p><p>Granted, these modern-day scribes didn't have the prestige or job descriptions of scribes of old - scribes of old had more "exclusive skills" that came with being the literate in a mostly-illiterate society.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Western-alphabet movable-type printing press was invented half a millennium ago , likely independently of similar inventions in the Far East a few centuries earlier.The typewriter as it was known in the early 20th century was invented in 1870.The low-cost photocopier was popularized in the 1960s and 1970s.Prior to the invention of the typewriter , it was n't uncommon for legal documents to be written by hand , so you needed someone to put the words down on paper formally.Prior to computers entering executive offices and executives and managers learning to type at a reasonable speed , secretaries or administrative assistants took dictation.Granted , these modern-day scribes did n't have the prestige or job descriptions of scribes of old - scribes of old had more " exclusive skills " that came with being the literate in a mostly-illiterate society .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Western-alphabet movable-type printing press was invented half a millennium ago, likely independently of similar inventions in the Far East a few centuries earlier.The typewriter as it was known in the early 20th century was invented in 1870.The low-cost photocopier was popularized in the 1960s and 1970s.Prior to the invention of the typewriter, it wasn't uncommon for legal documents to be written by hand, so you needed someone to put the words down on paper formally.Prior to computers entering executive offices and executives and managers learning to type at a reasonable speed, secretaries or administrative assistants took dictation.Granted, these modern-day scribes didn't have the prestige or job descriptions of scribes of old - scribes of old had more "exclusive skills" that came with being the literate in a mostly-illiterate society.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29955654</id>
	<title>Re:The problem are Theaters</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257159540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You forgot the $6 soda.</p><p>I laugh when they throw up the stupid ads that ask you to throw your trash away.  At the price they want for a fucking drink... I think it's safe to say you paid someone else to pick it up.  Leave your cup in the cup holder, throw the popcorn container on the floor as you leave.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You forgot the $ 6 soda.I laugh when they throw up the stupid ads that ask you to throw your trash away .
At the price they want for a fucking drink... I think it 's safe to say you paid someone else to pick it up .
Leave your cup in the cup holder , throw the popcorn container on the floor as you leave .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You forgot the $6 soda.I laugh when they throw up the stupid ads that ask you to throw your trash away.
At the price they want for a fucking drink... I think it's safe to say you paid someone else to pick it up.
Leave your cup in the cup holder, throw the popcorn container on the floor as you leave.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29958458</id>
	<title>Re:In other news</title>
	<author>SmlFreshwaterBuffalo</author>
	<datestamp>1257173460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I have feverishly been engaged in whacking moles...</p></div><p>So that's what the kids are calling it nowadays.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>...and cannot for the life of me comprehend why they continue to pop up.</p></div><p>Give it a few more years and you'll soon miss that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have feverishly been engaged in whacking moles...So that 's what the kids are calling it nowadays....and can not for the life of me comprehend why they continue to pop up.Give it a few more years and you 'll soon miss that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have feverishly been engaged in whacking moles...So that's what the kids are calling it nowadays....and cannot for the life of me comprehend why they continue to pop up.Give it a few more years and you'll soon miss that.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29962334</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257256560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Trying to remove something from the internet is like fishing piss out of a swimming pool.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Trying to remove something from the internet is like fishing piss out of a swimming pool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Trying to remove something from the internet is like fishing piss out of a swimming pool.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954496</id>
	<title>Well, it's no secret...</title>
	<author>beatsme</author>
	<datestamp>1257154080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The article makes it seem like a covert/mystical action, but really, anyone who has been reading TorrentFreak in the days since the TPB offer of sale and events surrounding the trial will know that people have been thinking about ways to mirror TPB for a while now, under the assumption that it will sink: <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/its-time-to-sink-the-pirate-bay-and-replace-it-090913/" title="torrentfreak.com" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/its-time-to-sink-the-pirate-bay-and-replace-it-090913/</a> [torrentfreak.com] , <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/torrented-pirate-bay-copy-comes-to-life-090820/" title="torrentfreak.com" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/torrented-pirate-bay-copy-comes-to-life-090820/</a> [torrentfreak.com] , etc...</htmltext>
<tokenext>The article makes it seem like a covert/mystical action , but really , anyone who has been reading TorrentFreak in the days since the TPB offer of sale and events surrounding the trial will know that people have been thinking about ways to mirror TPB for a while now , under the assumption that it will sink : http : //torrentfreak.com/its-time-to-sink-the-pirate-bay-and-replace-it-090913/ [ torrentfreak.com ] , http : //torrentfreak.com/torrented-pirate-bay-copy-comes-to-life-090820/ [ torrentfreak.com ] , etc.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article makes it seem like a covert/mystical action, but really, anyone who has been reading TorrentFreak in the days since the TPB offer of sale and events surrounding the trial will know that people have been thinking about ways to mirror TPB for a while now, under the assumption that it will sink: http://torrentfreak.com/its-time-to-sink-the-pirate-bay-and-replace-it-090913/ [torrentfreak.com] , http://torrentfreak.com/torrented-pirate-bay-copy-comes-to-life-090820/ [torrentfreak.com] , etc...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954470</id>
	<title>Streisand Effect?</title>
	<author>MBCook</author>
	<datestamp>1257153960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Could this be the Streisand effect? Lots of new people suddenly learned about free movies when the news media talked about it for a few days.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could this be the Streisand effect ?
Lots of new people suddenly learned about free movies when the news media talked about it for a few days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could this be the Streisand effect?
Lots of new people suddenly learned about free movies when the news media talked about it for a few days.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29962906</id>
	<title>Re:it's almost like...</title>
	<author>s0l1dsnak3123</author>
	<datestamp>1257260880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think, sir, you just hit the nail on the head<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think , sir , you just hit the nail on the head ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think, sir, you just hit the nail on the head ;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_1821232.29954664</id>
	<title>60 Minutes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257154920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone see the 60 Minutes piece last night trying to link Bit Torrent to Mexican DVD piracy to gangs to child prostitution? (think of the CHILDREN!)</p><p>It was quite ill informed, seeming to only gather information from the MPAA and other similar sources.</p><p>The link between people using camcorders to record movies and make bad quality DVD's for sale on street-corners I get, but their assumption that these are the SAME people uploading to BT, was casual at best.</p><p>Seriously, if you go through all the trouble to cam-cord the movie and burn DVD's in mass, aren't you just as threatened by BT as the studios?</p><p>Perhaps use it as a source, yes, but upload your own movies for free? I don't see it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone see the 60 Minutes piece last night trying to link Bit Torrent to Mexican DVD piracy to gangs to child prostitution ?
( think of the CHILDREN !
) It was quite ill informed , seeming to only gather information from the MPAA and other similar sources.The link between people using camcorders to record movies and make bad quality DVD 's for sale on street-corners I get , but their assumption that these are the SAME people uploading to BT , was casual at best.Seriously , if you go through all the trouble to cam-cord the movie and burn DVD 's in mass , are n't you just as threatened by BT as the studios ? Perhaps use it as a source , yes , but upload your own movies for free ?
I do n't see it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone see the 60 Minutes piece last night trying to link Bit Torrent to Mexican DVD piracy to gangs to child prostitution?
(think of the CHILDREN!
)It was quite ill informed, seeming to only gather information from the MPAA and other similar sources.The link between people using camcorders to record movies and make bad quality DVD's for sale on street-corners I get, but their assumption that these are the SAME people uploading to BT, was casual at best.Seriously, if you go through all the trouble to cam-cord the movie and burn DVD's in mass, aren't you just as threatened by BT as the studios?Perhaps use it as a source, yes, but upload your own movies for free?
I don't see it.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:And Slashdot cheers on the pirates</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1257265560000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><i>I don't see how piracy is an idiotic term, especially from the standpoint of the people whose products are being stolen.</i></p><p>Their content isn't the product, DVDs are. They don't call shoplifters, who ARE stealin their product, pirates. The "pirates" are those who infringe copyright. Copyright infringement is not theift. It may be wrong, but it isn't theift.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see how piracy is an idiotic term , especially from the standpoint of the people whose products are being stolen.Their content is n't the product , DVDs are .
They do n't call shoplifters , who ARE stealin their product , pirates .
The " pirates " are those who infringe copyright .
Copyright infringement is not theift .
It may be wrong , but it is n't theift .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see how piracy is an idiotic term, especially from the standpoint of the people whose products are being stolen.Their content isn't the product, DVDs are.
They don't call shoplifters, who ARE stealin their product, pirates.
The "pirates" are those who infringe copyright.
Copyright infringement is not theift.
It may be wrong, but it isn't theift.</sentencetext>
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	<title>All a matter of who disadvantages whom, eh?</title>
	<author>macraig</author>
	<datestamp>1257159360000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>It's the eternal capitalist struggle: who can disadvantage whom more, or first.  In this specific instance, it's a struggle between <b>legalized</b> methods of disadvantaging people versus illegal methods.  Guess who wrote the laws that determine what's illegal, though?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the eternal capitalist struggle : who can disadvantage whom more , or first .
In this specific instance , it 's a struggle between legalized methods of disadvantaging people versus illegal methods .
Guess who wrote the laws that determine what 's illegal , though ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the eternal capitalist struggle: who can disadvantage whom more, or first.
In this specific instance, it's a struggle between legalized methods of disadvantaging people versus illegal methods.
Guess who wrote the laws that determine what's illegal, though?</sentencetext>
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