<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_02_0219214</id>
	<title>Toyota Develops New Flower Species To Reduce Pollution</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1257188880000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>teko\_teko writes <i>"Toyota has created two <a href="http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=66761&amp;vf=1">flower species that absorb nitrogen oxides and take heat out of the atmosphere</a>. The flowers, derivatives of the cherry sage plant and the gardenia, were specially developed for the grounds of Toyota's Prius plant in Toyota City, Japan. The sage derivative's leaves have unique characteristics that absorb harmful gases, while the gardenia's leaves create water vapour in the air, reducing the surface temperature of the factory surrounds and, therefore, reducing the energy needed for cooling, in turn producing less carbon dioxide."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>teko \ _teko writes " Toyota has created two flower species that absorb nitrogen oxides and take heat out of the atmosphere .
The flowers , derivatives of the cherry sage plant and the gardenia , were specially developed for the grounds of Toyota 's Prius plant in Toyota City , Japan .
The sage derivative 's leaves have unique characteristics that absorb harmful gases , while the gardenia 's leaves create water vapour in the air , reducing the surface temperature of the factory surrounds and , therefore , reducing the energy needed for cooling , in turn producing less carbon dioxide .
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<sentencetext>teko\_teko writes "Toyota has created two flower species that absorb nitrogen oxides and take heat out of the atmosphere.
The flowers, derivatives of the cherry sage plant and the gardenia, were specially developed for the grounds of Toyota's Prius plant in Toyota City, Japan.
The sage derivative's leaves have unique characteristics that absorb harmful gases, while the gardenia's leaves create water vapour in the air, reducing the surface temperature of the factory surrounds and, therefore, reducing the energy needed for cooling, in turn producing less carbon dioxide.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948142</id>
	<title>Bad reporting</title>
	<author>AxeTheMax</author>
	<datestamp>1257193740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lots of bad science reporting there, just what you would expect from a motor journalist talking about botany.

New species???

All plants absorb gases, including any nitrogen compounds in the air. Any nitrous oxides would be absorbed within the leaf, since they are nutrients and plants have an ability to absorb nutrients through the leaves (foliar feeding).

All plants give off water vapour. I suspect most trees would be better at cooling the factory surrounds than gardenia plants, since by their size and nature they are faster growers and thus can transpire more water, and (for most species) they have more leaf area per unit of ground area.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lots of bad science reporting there , just what you would expect from a motor journalist talking about botany .
New species ? ? ?
All plants absorb gases , including any nitrogen compounds in the air .
Any nitrous oxides would be absorbed within the leaf , since they are nutrients and plants have an ability to absorb nutrients through the leaves ( foliar feeding ) .
All plants give off water vapour .
I suspect most trees would be better at cooling the factory surrounds than gardenia plants , since by their size and nature they are faster growers and thus can transpire more water , and ( for most species ) they have more leaf area per unit of ground area .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lots of bad science reporting there, just what you would expect from a motor journalist talking about botany.
New species???
All plants absorb gases, including any nitrogen compounds in the air.
Any nitrous oxides would be absorbed within the leaf, since they are nutrients and plants have an ability to absorb nutrients through the leaves (foliar feeding).
All plants give off water vapour.
I suspect most trees would be better at cooling the factory surrounds than gardenia plants, since by their size and nature they are faster growers and thus can transpire more water, and (for most species) they have more leaf area per unit of ground area.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29951862</id>
	<title>What division do you work in again?</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1257185160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The flower department... why?</p><p>Heh, makes me laugh, but good for Toyota all the same!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The flower department... why ? Heh , makes me laugh , but good for Toyota all the same !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The flower department... why?Heh, makes me laugh, but good for Toyota all the same!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948278</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257153060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, this is Tokyo. I'm pretty sure they get lots of rain.</p><p>And to someone who commented on plants becoming coal, that's not true of all plants. However i'm pretty sure that most of the nitrogen would in some way be re-used as fertilizer by the rest of the plants, were it in a natural environment. Since it isn't, i guess that depends on how they dispose of excess plant matter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , this is Tokyo .
I 'm pretty sure they get lots of rain.And to someone who commented on plants becoming coal , that 's not true of all plants .
However i 'm pretty sure that most of the nitrogen would in some way be re-used as fertilizer by the rest of the plants , were it in a natural environment .
Since it is n't , i guess that depends on how they dispose of excess plant matter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, this is Tokyo.
I'm pretty sure they get lots of rain.And to someone who commented on plants becoming coal, that's not true of all plants.
However i'm pretty sure that most of the nitrogen would in some way be re-used as fertilizer by the rest of the plants, were it in a natural environment.
Since it isn't, i guess that depends on how they dispose of excess plant matter.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948126</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948206</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257194940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>bwahahaha... the plant that ate the south...  seems like a good use for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>bwahahaha... the plant that ate the south... seems like a good use for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>bwahahaha... the plant that ate the south...  seems like a good use for it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948158</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949064</id>
	<title>Boooooooooogus</title>
	<author>CFD339</author>
	<datestamp>1257167220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is as bogus as the whole "clean" concept of the Toyota Pious.   These cars are dirty as hell to make, dirty as hell to recycle, and only provide real benefit for city driving.  VW and Audi have done much more important work with their "clean diesel" engines that get mileage similar to that of the hybrids without massive dirty batteries, and those cars get high mileage on long haul trips and long country roads like we have here in the US.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is as bogus as the whole " clean " concept of the Toyota Pious .
These cars are dirty as hell to make , dirty as hell to recycle , and only provide real benefit for city driving .
VW and Audi have done much more important work with their " clean diesel " engines that get mileage similar to that of the hybrids without massive dirty batteries , and those cars get high mileage on long haul trips and long country roads like we have here in the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is as bogus as the whole "clean" concept of the Toyota Pious.
These cars are dirty as hell to make, dirty as hell to recycle, and only provide real benefit for city driving.
VW and Audi have done much more important work with their "clean diesel" engines that get mileage similar to that of the hybrids without massive dirty batteries, and those cars get high mileage on long haul trips and long country roads like we have here in the US.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29956148</id>
	<title>Re:Perfect Timing!</title>
	<author>acheron12</author>
	<datestamp>1257161700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bah, your advances are trivial. <i>I'm</i> creating a cow that excretes a tasty white liquid for human consumption. I've also invented various ways of fermenting the liquid to create Yoghurt (TM) and Cheese (TM), patents pending.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bah , your advances are trivial .
I 'm creating a cow that excretes a tasty white liquid for human consumption .
I 've also invented various ways of fermenting the liquid to create Yoghurt ( TM ) and Cheese ( TM ) , patents pending .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bah, your advances are trivial.
I'm creating a cow that excretes a tasty white liquid for human consumption.
I've also invented various ways of fermenting the liquid to create Yoghurt (TM) and Cheese (TM), patents pending.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948462</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949680</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>dodobh</author>
	<datestamp>1257174240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It only dooms you puny humans who cannot live in the desert. Now, on to the sandtrouting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It only dooms you puny humans who can not live in the desert .
Now , on to the sandtrouting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It only dooms you puny humans who cannot live in the desert.
Now, on to the sandtrouting.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948492</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948534</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>captainpanic</author>
	<datestamp>1257157500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They should patent the evaporation of water. And patent photosynthesis too, for good measure. they obviously made a great invention.</p><p>p.s. Don't tell them that they found nothing new. This is just like a biologist finding out that cars exist (carrus automaticus gasolinus). Quite exciting really, and certainly worth a publication or two.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They should patent the evaporation of water .
And patent photosynthesis too , for good measure .
they obviously made a great invention.p.s .
Do n't tell them that they found nothing new .
This is just like a biologist finding out that cars exist ( carrus automaticus gasolinus ) .
Quite exciting really , and certainly worth a publication or two .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They should patent the evaporation of water.
And patent photosynthesis too, for good measure.
they obviously made a great invention.p.s.
Don't tell them that they found nothing new.
This is just like a biologist finding out that cars exist (carrus automaticus gasolinus).
Quite exciting really, and certainly worth a publication or two.
:)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948104</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948346</id>
	<title>Progenitor Virus</title>
	<author>mister\_playboy</author>
	<datestamp>1257153900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Umbrella Corporation (from the Resident Evil series) cultivated some funky flowers in Africa which led to their biological weapon development... zombies, Majini, etc. were the result.</p><p>Whatcouldpossiblygowrong?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Umbrella Corporation ( from the Resident Evil series ) cultivated some funky flowers in Africa which led to their biological weapon development... zombies , Majini , etc .
were the result.Whatcouldpossiblygowrong ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Umbrella Corporation (from the Resident Evil series) cultivated some funky flowers in Africa which led to their biological weapon development... zombies, Majini, etc.
were the result.Whatcouldpossiblygowrong?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29950932</id>
	<title>Where are the organic advocates?</title>
	<author>gryf</author>
	<datestamp>1257180960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I thought it was bad form or just plain dangerous to mess with Mother Gaia's design? Isn't modified plants against some natural law or something? What if pollen from these flowers drift into someone else's garden? Where's the boatload of decent, thinking, people ready to stamp out these horrors of science?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought it was bad form or just plain dangerous to mess with Mother Gaia 's design ?
Is n't modified plants against some natural law or something ?
What if pollen from these flowers drift into someone else 's garden ?
Where 's the boatload of decent , thinking , people ready to stamp out these horrors of science ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought it was bad form or just plain dangerous to mess with Mother Gaia's design?
Isn't modified plants against some natural law or something?
What if pollen from these flowers drift into someone else's garden?
Where's the boatload of decent, thinking, people ready to stamp out these horrors of science?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948632</id>
	<title>Re:If they want to reduce pollution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257159360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because they don't want to reduce their profit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because they do n't want to reduce their profit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because they don't want to reduce their profit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948268</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948954</id>
	<title>This is great!</title>
	<author>Aldenissin</author>
	<datestamp>1257165420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have had visions of society using the tools that were given to us. We CAN find solutions, if we only try. We have to identify the problems accurately first, and then instead of excuses, seek the answer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have had visions of society using the tools that were given to us .
We CAN find solutions , if we only try .
We have to identify the problems accurately first , and then instead of excuses , seek the answer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have had visions of society using the tools that were given to us.
We CAN find solutions, if we only try.
We have to identify the problems accurately first, and then instead of excuses, seek the answer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949126</id>
	<title>Stop GMOs!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257168120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/10/toyota-engineers-new-flower-species-absorb-emissions-prius.php" title="treehugger.com" rel="nofollow">According to treehuger.com</a> [treehugger.com] <b>the flowers are genetically engineered</b>. It's a danger unparallelled in human history, we're destroying the millenia old single lifeline there is, the genetical code.</p><p>And when the GMOs contaminate natural plants, one would expect the company making them be sued out of business but what actually has happened is the company goes suing the farmer for using their <i>intellectual property</i>! This model encourages careless handling of the GMO seeds and even intentional contamination. The human greed is boundless and shows no mercy.</p><p>Shame on Toyota, I for one certainly will not buy their products after this. I bet many people (especially in the EU) feel likewise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to treehuger.com [ treehugger.com ] the flowers are genetically engineered .
It 's a danger unparallelled in human history , we 're destroying the millenia old single lifeline there is , the genetical code.And when the GMOs contaminate natural plants , one would expect the company making them be sued out of business but what actually has happened is the company goes suing the farmer for using their intellectual property !
This model encourages careless handling of the GMO seeds and even intentional contamination .
The human greed is boundless and shows no mercy.Shame on Toyota , I for one certainly will not buy their products after this .
I bet many people ( especially in the EU ) feel likewise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to treehuger.com [treehugger.com] the flowers are genetically engineered.
It's a danger unparallelled in human history, we're destroying the millenia old single lifeline there is, the genetical code.And when the GMOs contaminate natural plants, one would expect the company making them be sued out of business but what actually has happened is the company goes suing the farmer for using their intellectual property!
This model encourages careless handling of the GMO seeds and even intentional contamination.
The human greed is boundless and shows no mercy.Shame on Toyota, I for one certainly will not buy their products after this.
I bet many people (especially in the EU) feel likewise.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948112</id>
	<title>All plants transpire</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257193140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>thereby reducing the surrounding temperature, don't they? Gardenias do smell nice though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>thereby reducing the surrounding temperature , do n't they ?
Gardenias do smell nice though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>thereby reducing the surrounding temperature, don't they?
Gardenias do smell nice though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949224</id>
	<title>Our New and Improved Toyota Prius</title>
	<author>Kreeben</author>
	<datestamp>1257169440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>...with virtually no impact on environment!*


* except for huge fields of Toyota Gardenia (TM), and who doesn't like gardenias?</htmltext>
<tokenext>...with virtually no impact on environment !
* * except for huge fields of Toyota Gardenia ( TM ) , and who does n't like gardenias ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...with virtually no impact on environment!
*


* except for huge fields of Toyota Gardenia (TM), and who doesn't like gardenias?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948312</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>Sparr0</author>
	<datestamp>1257153420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kudzu is trivial to get rid of.  Just let a herd of goats loose.  Not only do they eat kudzu, they PREFER it, and will eat it before almost any other human-desirable plants.  There are companies that rent out goats specifically for this purpose.</p><p>If you think Kudzu is bad, read up on Cogon Grass.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kudzu is trivial to get rid of .
Just let a herd of goats loose .
Not only do they eat kudzu , they PREFER it , and will eat it before almost any other human-desirable plants .
There are companies that rent out goats specifically for this purpose.If you think Kudzu is bad , read up on Cogon Grass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kudzu is trivial to get rid of.
Just let a herd of goats loose.
Not only do they eat kudzu, they PREFER it, and will eat it before almost any other human-desirable plants.
There are companies that rent out goats specifically for this purpose.If you think Kudzu is bad, read up on Cogon Grass.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948158</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29951748</id>
	<title>Re:Plants eventually die</title>
	<author>The Wooden Badger</author>
	<datestamp>1257184620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If by re-released you mean the process of photosynthesis (C02 + H2O = Carbohydrate + O2) produces food for animals and the animals then exhale CO2, then yes, most of the CO2 is re-released into the atmosphere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If by re-released you mean the process of photosynthesis ( C02 + H2O = Carbohydrate + O2 ) produces food for animals and the animals then exhale CO2 , then yes , most of the CO2 is re-released into the atmosphere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If by re-released you mean the process of photosynthesis (C02 + H2O = Carbohydrate + O2) produces food for animals and the animals then exhale CO2, then yes, most of the CO2 is re-released into the atmosphere.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948094</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949378</id>
	<title>Re:And then?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257171360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;What are the long term plans for the foliage disposal?<br>Yucca Flat.<br>Radiation will keep the plants from decaying.<br>As I stated above:<br>&gt;That's why you have to kill'em and dump em in the landfill. That and a bullet in the head. Otherwise &gt;it's Godzilla Vs. the iceage-causing nitrogen-eating plant monster time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; What are the long term plans for the foliage disposal ? Yucca Flat.Radiation will keep the plants from decaying.As I stated above : &gt; That 's why you have to kill'em and dump em in the landfill .
That and a bullet in the head .
Otherwise &gt; it 's Godzilla Vs. the iceage-causing nitrogen-eating plant monster time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;What are the long term plans for the foliage disposal?Yucca Flat.Radiation will keep the plants from decaying.As I stated above:&gt;That's why you have to kill'em and dump em in the landfill.
That and a bullet in the head.
Otherwise &gt;it's Godzilla Vs. the iceage-causing nitrogen-eating plant monster time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948682</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949418</id>
	<title>/. biology, economics, politics, manufacturing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257171840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>experts come out of the woodwork to respond in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...</p><p>You'd all own your own islands by now, if only your massive intellect were truly appreciated...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>experts come out of the woodwork to respond in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...You 'd all own your own islands by now , if only your massive intellect were truly appreciated.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>experts come out of the woodwork to respond in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...You'd all own your own islands by now, if only your massive intellect were truly appreciated...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949344</id>
	<title>Where did you leave your critical thinking today?</title>
	<author>nietsch</author>
	<datestamp>1257171060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dubious claims that sound scientific, but not made in a scientific journal, not peer reviewed and making 1st grade biology errors in the title, and you still think there is some truth in that article?<br>'Species' is a fundamental term in biology. For instance evolution depends on the definition of a species. If they would have truly created a new species of plant (utilising a different nice and unable to interbreed) then that would be news. Making a cultivar and planting that on a factory grounds is just not that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dubious claims that sound scientific , but not made in a scientific journal , not peer reviewed and making 1st grade biology errors in the title , and you still think there is some truth in that article ?
'Species ' is a fundamental term in biology .
For instance evolution depends on the definition of a species .
If they would have truly created a new species of plant ( utilising a different nice and unable to interbreed ) then that would be news .
Making a cultivar and planting that on a factory grounds is just not that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dubious claims that sound scientific, but not made in a scientific journal, not peer reviewed and making 1st grade biology errors in the title, and you still think there is some truth in that article?
'Species' is a fundamental term in biology.
For instance evolution depends on the definition of a species.
If they would have truly created a new species of plant (utilising a different nice and unable to interbreed) then that would be news.
Making a cultivar and planting that on a factory grounds is just not that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948612</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29952440</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1257188040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, it's MUTANT kudzu that you're planning on feeding the goats. If you do this, you're going to end up with MUTANT goats! Just think of the problems you'll have with a MUTANT spider-goat. Goat tracks all over your ceiling, not to mention all the goat-silk splattered all over the walls. The cleaning bills alone would be enormous!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , it 's MUTANT kudzu that you 're planning on feeding the goats .
If you do this , you 're going to end up with MUTANT goats !
Just think of the problems you 'll have with a MUTANT spider-goat .
Goat tracks all over your ceiling , not to mention all the goat-silk splattered all over the walls .
The cleaning bills alone would be enormous !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, it's MUTANT kudzu that you're planning on feeding the goats.
If you do this, you're going to end up with MUTANT goats!
Just think of the problems you'll have with a MUTANT spider-goat.
Goat tracks all over your ceiling, not to mention all the goat-silk splattered all over the walls.
The cleaning bills alone would be enormous!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948532</id>
	<title>These Flowers Get Great Mileage!</title>
	<author>Bob\_Who</author>
	<datestamp>1257157500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>...but they all look alike and they're not very good at city driving.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...but they all look alike and they 're not very good at city driving .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...but they all look alike and they're not very good at city driving.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29952658</id>
	<title>Hypocritical bastards!</title>
	<author>fugue</author>
	<datestamp>1257189240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>So they can claim to be "green" while still producing 4Runners and worse.  Assholes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So they can claim to be " green " while still producing 4Runners and worse .
Assholes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they can claim to be "green" while still producing 4Runners and worse.
Assholes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29952734</id>
	<title>Re: H2O worse than CO2</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257189600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not only that, but water vapor is a much stronger greenhouse gas than is carbon dioxide. Is the overall net effect from substituting X tons of water vapor emissions for X+N tons of carbon dioxide emissions worse? Panicky science-challenged AGW morons want to know!!</p><p>Carbon offsets == Ecomasturbation. You can feel good about yourself without actually having accomplished anything productive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only that , but water vapor is a much stronger greenhouse gas than is carbon dioxide .
Is the overall net effect from substituting X tons of water vapor emissions for X + N tons of carbon dioxide emissions worse ?
Panicky science-challenged AGW morons want to know !
! Carbon offsets = = Ecomasturbation .
You can feel good about yourself without actually having accomplished anything productive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only that, but water vapor is a much stronger greenhouse gas than is carbon dioxide.
Is the overall net effect from substituting X tons of water vapor emissions for X+N tons of carbon dioxide emissions worse?
Panicky science-challenged AGW morons want to know!
!Carbon offsets == Ecomasturbation.
You can feel good about yourself without actually having accomplished anything productive.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949052</id>
	<title>Water vapor is ALSO a greenhouse gas.</title>
	<author>EWAdams</author>
	<datestamp>1257167100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You don't necessarily want to be making more of it in large quantities, although presumably as 7/10ths of the planet is covered by water, the amount generated by some flowers won't be terribly significant.</p><p>On the other hand, the forthcoming fuel cell cars should really include condensers so the water coming out the tailpipe is liquid rather than gaseous. One downside: the roads will ALWAYS be wet. We can presumably expect a certain increase in accident deaths from that cause, although it will be offset by the reduction in lung diseases.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't necessarily want to be making more of it in large quantities , although presumably as 7/10ths of the planet is covered by water , the amount generated by some flowers wo n't be terribly significant.On the other hand , the forthcoming fuel cell cars should really include condensers so the water coming out the tailpipe is liquid rather than gaseous .
One downside : the roads will ALWAYS be wet .
We can presumably expect a certain increase in accident deaths from that cause , although it will be offset by the reduction in lung diseases .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't necessarily want to be making more of it in large quantities, although presumably as 7/10ths of the planet is covered by water, the amount generated by some flowers won't be terribly significant.On the other hand, the forthcoming fuel cell cars should really include condensers so the water coming out the tailpipe is liquid rather than gaseous.
One downside: the roads will ALWAYS be wet.
We can presumably expect a certain increase in accident deaths from that cause, although it will be offset by the reduction in lung diseases.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29951398</id>
	<title>Re:FRAUD ALERT -- Slashdot sucked in again?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257183060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"
FRAUD ALERT -- Slashdot sucked in again? (Score:-1, Flamebait)
"</i>

<br> <br>Even though there is plenty of agreement with the parent comment, it is marked "-1, Flamebait" at present.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" FRAUD ALERT -- Slashdot sucked in again ?
( Score : -1 , Flamebait ) " Even though there is plenty of agreement with the parent comment , it is marked " -1 , Flamebait " at present .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"
FRAUD ALERT -- Slashdot sucked in again?
(Score:-1, Flamebait)
"

 Even though there is plenty of agreement with the parent comment, it is marked "-1, Flamebait" at present.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29952222</id>
	<title>Other Plants Toyota Could Build?</title>
	<author>LifesABeach</author>
	<datestamp>1257186960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I guess plant genetics draws attention away from Toyota's auto-motivations.  How about a plant that would grow from a car?  Each plant type would absorb something from the car like the car's Iron, or Copper, or Aluminum?  The metal could be "stored" as a nodule that then could be "harvested" for future requirements.  Wrecking Yards would be handled like farms.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess plant genetics draws attention away from Toyota 's auto-motivations .
How about a plant that would grow from a car ?
Each plant type would absorb something from the car like the car 's Iron , or Copper , or Aluminum ?
The metal could be " stored " as a nodule that then could be " harvested " for future requirements .
Wrecking Yards would be handled like farms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess plant genetics draws attention away from Toyota's auto-motivations.
How about a plant that would grow from a car?
Each plant type would absorb something from the car like the car's Iron, or Copper, or Aluminum?
The metal could be "stored" as a nodule that then could be "harvested" for future requirements.
Wrecking Yards would be handled like farms.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949236</id>
	<title>Re:FRAUD ALERT -- Slashdot sucked in again?</title>
	<author>mpe</author>
	<datestamp>1257169740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>While I agree that it does seem like this will do little, from the article you posted, it sounds like nitrogen can normally only be absorbed by the roots of plants, and only by means of nitrifying bacteria.</i> <br> <br>Certain plants form nodules on their roots which contain bacterial symbiotes which "fix" nitrogen. This arrangement being of mutual benefit to both the plant and the bacteria.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While I agree that it does seem like this will do little , from the article you posted , it sounds like nitrogen can normally only be absorbed by the roots of plants , and only by means of nitrifying bacteria .
Certain plants form nodules on their roots which contain bacterial symbiotes which " fix " nitrogen .
This arrangement being of mutual benefit to both the plant and the bacteria .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I agree that it does seem like this will do little, from the article you posted, it sounds like nitrogen can normally only be absorbed by the roots of plants, and only by means of nitrifying bacteria.
Certain plants form nodules on their roots which contain bacterial symbiotes which "fix" nitrogen.
This arrangement being of mutual benefit to both the plant and the bacteria.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948424</id>
	<title>um this may not be as good as you think</title>
	<author>CHRONOSS2008</author>
	<datestamp>1257155460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>some organic life needs nitrogen</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>scroll down to:<br>Biological role</p><p>Specific bacteria (e.g. Rhizobium trifolium) possess nitrogenase enzymes which can fix atmospheric nitrogen (see nitrogen fixation) into a form (ammonium ion) that is chemically useful to higher organisms. This process requires a large amount of energy and anoxic conditions. Such bacteria may live freely in soil (e.g. Azotobacter) but normally exist in a symbiotic relationship in the root nodules of leguminous plants (e.g. clover, Trifolium, or soybean plant, Glycine max). Nitrogen-fixing bacteria are also symbiotic with a number of unrelated plant species such as alders (Alnus) spp., lichens (Casuarina), Myrica, liverworts, and Gunnera.</p><p>and so on and you want to really really give these oil gurgling morons more incentive to screw up the earth WHY ARENT they focusing on i dunno making electric style cars and hybrids more OR tech to go beyond oil prodcuts</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>some organic life needs nitrogenhttp : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen [ wikipedia.org ] scroll down to : Biological roleSpecific bacteria ( e.g .
Rhizobium trifolium ) possess nitrogenase enzymes which can fix atmospheric nitrogen ( see nitrogen fixation ) into a form ( ammonium ion ) that is chemically useful to higher organisms .
This process requires a large amount of energy and anoxic conditions .
Such bacteria may live freely in soil ( e.g .
Azotobacter ) but normally exist in a symbiotic relationship in the root nodules of leguminous plants ( e.g .
clover , Trifolium , or soybean plant , Glycine max ) .
Nitrogen-fixing bacteria are also symbiotic with a number of unrelated plant species such as alders ( Alnus ) spp. , lichens ( Casuarina ) , Myrica , liverworts , and Gunnera.and so on and you want to really really give these oil gurgling morons more incentive to screw up the earth WHY ARENT they focusing on i dunno making electric style cars and hybrids more OR tech to go beyond oil prodcuts</tokentext>
<sentencetext>some organic life needs nitrogenhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen [wikipedia.org]scroll down to:Biological roleSpecific bacteria (e.g.
Rhizobium trifolium) possess nitrogenase enzymes which can fix atmospheric nitrogen (see nitrogen fixation) into a form (ammonium ion) that is chemically useful to higher organisms.
This process requires a large amount of energy and anoxic conditions.
Such bacteria may live freely in soil (e.g.
Azotobacter) but normally exist in a symbiotic relationship in the root nodules of leguminous plants (e.g.
clover, Trifolium, or soybean plant, Glycine max).
Nitrogen-fixing bacteria are also symbiotic with a number of unrelated plant species such as alders (Alnus) spp., lichens (Casuarina), Myrica, liverworts, and Gunnera.and so on and you want to really really give these oil gurgling morons more incentive to screw up the earth WHY ARENT they focusing on i dunno making electric style cars and hybrids more OR tech to go beyond oil prodcuts</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29952718</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>HiThere</author>
	<datestamp>1257189540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, you see the trick is that just as the kudzu is on the edge of being wiped out, you start eating the goats.</p><p>Now getting rid of the people, that's the tricky bit.  (At least unless you don't mind getting caught in the process.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , you see the trick is that just as the kudzu is on the edge of being wiped out , you start eating the goats.Now getting rid of the people , that 's the tricky bit .
( At least unless you do n't mind getting caught in the process .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, you see the trick is that just as the kudzu is on the edge of being wiped out, you start eating the goats.Now getting rid of the people, that's the tricky bit.
(At least unless you don't mind getting caught in the process.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948550</id>
	<title>FRAUD ALERT -- Slashdot sucked in again?</title>
	<author>Futurepower(R)</author>
	<datestamp>1257157860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>FRAUD?</b> Plants always <a href="http://www.tutorvista.com/content/biology/biology-iv/plant-nutrition/nitrogen-metabolism-plants.php" title="tutorvista.com" rel="nofollow">metabolize nitrogen</a> [tutorvista.com]. The extra humidity is not needed in humid Japan, and therefore provides little cooling.

<br> <br>This seems to be a P.R. blitz. Google lists an <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=flower+species+that+absorb+nitrogen+oxides&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">amazing number of references.</a> [google.com]

<br> <br>Slashdot is a technology web site with editors who seemingly only know computer technology.</htmltext>
<tokenext>FRAUD ?
Plants always metabolize nitrogen [ tutorvista.com ] .
The extra humidity is not needed in humid Japan , and therefore provides little cooling .
This seems to be a P.R .
blitz. Google lists an amazing number of references .
[ google.com ] Slashdot is a technology web site with editors who seemingly only know computer technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FRAUD?
Plants always metabolize nitrogen [tutorvista.com].
The extra humidity is not needed in humid Japan, and therefore provides little cooling.
This seems to be a P.R.
blitz. Google lists an amazing number of references.
[google.com]

 Slashdot is a technology web site with editors who seemingly only know computer technology.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948212</id>
	<title>Re:Bad reporting</title>
	<author>TubeSteak</author>
	<datestamp>1257195120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>October 6, 2005<br>Toyota Develops Shrub that Greatly Improves Air Quality<br>--New Cherry Sage Better Cleanses Air, Reduces "Urban Heat Island Effect"--<br><a href="http://www2.toyota.co.jp/en/news/05/1006.html" title="toyota.co.jp">http://www2.toyota.co.jp/en/news/05/1006.html</a> [toyota.co.jp]<br>"TMC started selling its Gardenia plant, known as the "Wald", which has a very high atmospheric-cleansing ability, in October 2003."</p><p>The grass mentioned in TFA linked by<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. is a breed of "zoysia grass" known as "TM9"<br>I read about it on page 40 of Toyota's <a href="http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/csr/report/09/download/pdf/sustainability\_report09.pdf" title="toyota.co.jp">2009 sustainability report</a> [toyota.co.jp] (8MB PDF) and it has been on sale since 2006.</p><p>Nothing in this story is new except for the positive PR that Toyota is getting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>October 6 , 2005Toyota Develops Shrub that Greatly Improves Air Quality--New Cherry Sage Better Cleanses Air , Reduces " Urban Heat Island Effect " --http : //www2.toyota.co.jp/en/news/05/1006.html [ toyota.co.jp ] " TMC started selling its Gardenia plant , known as the " Wald " , which has a very high atmospheric-cleansing ability , in October 2003 .
" The grass mentioned in TFA linked by / .
is a breed of " zoysia grass " known as " TM9 " I read about it on page 40 of Toyota 's 2009 sustainability report [ toyota.co.jp ] ( 8MB PDF ) and it has been on sale since 2006.Nothing in this story is new except for the positive PR that Toyota is getting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>October 6, 2005Toyota Develops Shrub that Greatly Improves Air Quality--New Cherry Sage Better Cleanses Air, Reduces "Urban Heat Island Effect"--http://www2.toyota.co.jp/en/news/05/1006.html [toyota.co.jp]"TMC started selling its Gardenia plant, known as the "Wald", which has a very high atmospheric-cleansing ability, in October 2003.
"The grass mentioned in TFA linked by /.
is a breed of "zoysia grass" known as "TM9"I read about it on page 40 of Toyota's 2009 sustainability report [toyota.co.jp] (8MB PDF) and it has been on sale since 2006.Nothing in this story is new except for the positive PR that Toyota is getting.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949048</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1257167040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Note that plant water doesn't need to be particularly clean, just desalinated.  You can water plants with drain water in a lot of situations.  Japan isn't a desert, the only water shortages that they are likely to have will come from overloaded processing and treatment plants, not from supply of rain.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Note that plant water does n't need to be particularly clean , just desalinated .
You can water plants with drain water in a lot of situations .
Japan is n't a desert , the only water shortages that they are likely to have will come from overloaded processing and treatment plants , not from supply of rain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Note that plant water doesn't need to be particularly clean, just desalinated.
You can water plants with drain water in a lot of situations.
Japan isn't a desert, the only water shortages that they are likely to have will come from overloaded processing and treatment plants, not from supply of rain.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948722</id>
	<title>Re:If they want to reduce pollution</title>
	<author>Virak</author>
	<datestamp>1257161400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your clever plan has one slight flaw, namely that Toyota is not the only company on the planet making cars. If they stop then people will just buy cars from elsewhere that are probably less environmentally friendly, resulting in more pollution overall.</p><p>Environmentalists could do with a lot more pragmatism and a lot less "durr I'm going to vehemently oppose anything short of ceasing all pollution overnight".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your clever plan has one slight flaw , namely that Toyota is not the only company on the planet making cars .
If they stop then people will just buy cars from elsewhere that are probably less environmentally friendly , resulting in more pollution overall.Environmentalists could do with a lot more pragmatism and a lot less " durr I 'm going to vehemently oppose anything short of ceasing all pollution overnight " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your clever plan has one slight flaw, namely that Toyota is not the only company on the planet making cars.
If they stop then people will just buy cars from elsewhere that are probably less environmentally friendly, resulting in more pollution overall.Environmentalists could do with a lot more pragmatism and a lot less "durr I'm going to vehemently oppose anything short of ceasing all pollution overnight".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29950474</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257178980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But I don't have any Magic cards with cogon grass on them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But I do n't have any Magic cards with cogon grass on them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I don't have any Magic cards with cogon grass on them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948736</id>
	<title>Re:Availability</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1257161880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can already get excellent air cleaners at the local nursery. Buy a Ficus.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can already get excellent air cleaners at the local nursery .
Buy a Ficus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can already get excellent air cleaners at the local nursery.
Buy a Ficus.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948938</id>
	<title>Re:If they want to reduce pollution</title>
	<author>Totenglocke</author>
	<datestamp>1257165240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Environmentalists could do with a lot more pragmatism and a lot less "durr I'm going to vehemently oppose anything short of ceasing all pollution overnight".</p></div><p>It could also do with a lot more of the primary environmental figures actually practicing even<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.001\% of what they preach.  The worlds worst polluters are the very people screaming about how we need to cut down on pollution (just take a look at Al Gore's massive homes and electricity usage - I read once that he uses something like 14 times more electricity than the average US citizen - not to mention how much pollution is caused by flying around in private jets all the time).</p><p>While I am all for reducing pollution, the environmentalist lobby group is one of the biggest scams in history.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Environmentalists could do with a lot more pragmatism and a lot less " durr I 'm going to vehemently oppose anything short of ceasing all pollution overnight " .It could also do with a lot more of the primary environmental figures actually practicing even .001 \ % of what they preach .
The worlds worst polluters are the very people screaming about how we need to cut down on pollution ( just take a look at Al Gore 's massive homes and electricity usage - I read once that he uses something like 14 times more electricity than the average US citizen - not to mention how much pollution is caused by flying around in private jets all the time ) .While I am all for reducing pollution , the environmentalist lobby group is one of the biggest scams in history .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Environmentalists could do with a lot more pragmatism and a lot less "durr I'm going to vehemently oppose anything short of ceasing all pollution overnight".It could also do with a lot more of the primary environmental figures actually practicing even .001\% of what they preach.
The worlds worst polluters are the very people screaming about how we need to cut down on pollution (just take a look at Al Gore's massive homes and electricity usage - I read once that he uses something like 14 times more electricity than the average US citizen - not to mention how much pollution is caused by flying around in private jets all the time).While I am all for reducing pollution, the environmentalist lobby group is one of the biggest scams in history.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949038</id>
	<title>Don't all plants create water vapor?</title>
	<author>firefarter</author>
	<datestamp>1257166920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>School's been a while back, but if I remember correctly, water vapor is a by-product of photosynthesis?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>School 's been a while back , but if I remember correctly , water vapor is a by-product of photosynthesis ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>School's been a while back, but if I remember correctly, water vapor is a by-product of photosynthesis?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949074</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257167340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>What do the goats eat once they've finished the kudzu?<br>Ask Africa. They eat everything. Then you get desert.</i> <br> <br>Only if the people involved are too daft to eat the goats (and turn their skins into leather).</htmltext>
<tokenext>What do the goats eat once they 've finished the kudzu ? Ask Africa .
They eat everything .
Then you get desert .
Only if the people involved are too daft to eat the goats ( and turn their skins into leather ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What do the goats eat once they've finished the kudzu?Ask Africa.
They eat everything.
Then you get desert.
Only if the people involved are too daft to eat the goats (and turn their skins into leather).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948492</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29959260</id>
	<title>Re:Bad reporting</title>
	<author>Dodgy G33za</author>
	<datestamp>1257178260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually trees are pretty bad at capturing carbon in the short term to medium term (which is probably the lifetime of this factory). Most trees take a minimum of 20 years to reach any size - so not much good for cooling. They are also dormant in the winter.

Imagine the weight of grass clippings (buried as much) you can produce in that same 20 year period. Better yet some weeds (such as the thistle) have a cycle of less than 100 days.

The best thing that Toyota could do would be to let the grounds get completely overgrown and slash and mulch every so often. But then that wouldn't meet our aesthetic would it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually trees are pretty bad at capturing carbon in the short term to medium term ( which is probably the lifetime of this factory ) .
Most trees take a minimum of 20 years to reach any size - so not much good for cooling .
They are also dormant in the winter .
Imagine the weight of grass clippings ( buried as much ) you can produce in that same 20 year period .
Better yet some weeds ( such as the thistle ) have a cycle of less than 100 days .
The best thing that Toyota could do would be to let the grounds get completely overgrown and slash and mulch every so often .
But then that would n't meet our aesthetic would it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually trees are pretty bad at capturing carbon in the short term to medium term (which is probably the lifetime of this factory).
Most trees take a minimum of 20 years to reach any size - so not much good for cooling.
They are also dormant in the winter.
Imagine the weight of grass clippings (buried as much) you can produce in that same 20 year period.
Better yet some weeds (such as the thistle) have a cycle of less than 100 days.
The best thing that Toyota could do would be to let the grounds get completely overgrown and slash and mulch every so often.
But then that wouldn't meet our aesthetic would it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948142</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949332</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257170880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Kudzu is trivial to get rid of. Just let a herd of goats loose. Not only do they eat kudzu, they PREFER it, and will eat it before almost any other human-desirable plants. There are companies that rent out goats specifically for this purpose.</p></div><p>Then, we simply release wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the goats.<br>Of course, the snakes are even worse, but we're prepared for that. We've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.  I can hear you saying, "But then we're stuck with gorillas!"  That's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Kudzu is trivial to get rid of .
Just let a herd of goats loose .
Not only do they eat kudzu , they PREFER it , and will eat it before almost any other human-desirable plants .
There are companies that rent out goats specifically for this purpose.Then , we simply release wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes .
They 'll wipe out the goats.Of course , the snakes are even worse , but we 're prepared for that .
We 've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat .
I can hear you saying , " But then we 're stuck with gorillas !
" That 's the beautiful part .
When wintertime rolls around , the gorillas simply freeze to death .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kudzu is trivial to get rid of.
Just let a herd of goats loose.
Not only do they eat kudzu, they PREFER it, and will eat it before almost any other human-desirable plants.
There are companies that rent out goats specifically for this purpose.Then, we simply release wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes.
They'll wipe out the goats.Of course, the snakes are even worse, but we're prepared for that.
We've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.
I can hear you saying, "But then we're stuck with gorillas!
"  That's the beautiful part.
When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948312</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949268</id>
	<title>Stop one greenhouse gas with another?</title>
	<author>TerribleNews</author>
	<datestamp>1257170160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I really hope someone did some pretty heavy analysis on this. The atmosphere is a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse\_gas#Role\_of\_water\_vapor" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow"> <em>big</em> and <em>complicated</em> place. </a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I really hope someone did some pretty heavy analysis on this .
The atmosphere is a big and complicated place .
[ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really hope someone did some pretty heavy analysis on this.
The atmosphere is a  big and complicated place.
[wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948254</id>
	<title>New tag should be....</title>
	<author>thatseattleguy</author>
	<datestamp>1257152640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>
whatcouldpossibly<b>grow</b>wrong</htmltext>
<tokenext>whatcouldpossiblygrowwrong</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
whatcouldpossiblygrowwrong</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948488</id>
	<title>Branching out</title>
	<author>TehBlahhh</author>
	<datestamp>1257156660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Reduce pollination? What, on earth, does plant birth control have to do with toyota? Unless they're going for umbrella corporation status, that sort of thing would be way outside their usual line of business.
Of course, if they ARE... <br>
<br>

Oh wait. Pollution.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Reduce pollination ?
What , on earth , does plant birth control have to do with toyota ?
Unless they 're going for umbrella corporation status , that sort of thing would be way outside their usual line of business .
Of course , if they ARE.. . Oh wait .
Pollution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reduce pollination?
What, on earth, does plant birth control have to do with toyota?
Unless they're going for umbrella corporation status, that sort of thing would be way outside their usual line of business.
Of course, if they ARE... 


Oh wait.
Pollution.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948450</id>
	<title>The PR machine is go!</title>
	<author>RudeIota</author>
	<datestamp>1257156000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is all obviously for attention and is merely a token to the public of Toyota's commitment for being 'green'. The actual 'good' done by planting even an infinite number of flowers around their manufacturer facility is infinitely negligible even on a regional scale.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is all obviously for attention and is merely a token to the public of Toyota 's commitment for being 'green' .
The actual 'good ' done by planting even an infinite number of flowers around their manufacturer facility is infinitely negligible even on a regional scale .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is all obviously for attention and is merely a token to the public of Toyota's commitment for being 'green'.
The actual 'good' done by planting even an infinite number of flowers around their manufacturer facility is infinitely negligible even on a regional scale.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948268</id>
	<title>If they want to reduce pollution</title>
	<author>drsquare</author>
	<datestamp>1257152940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why don't they stop making cars?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do n't they stop making cars ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why don't they stop making cars?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29954708</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257155100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Um, Water vapor is the #1 greenhouse gas, far beyond CO2.. Kinda defeats the point right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Um , Water vapor is the # 1 greenhouse gas , far beyond CO2.. Kinda defeats the point right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um, Water vapor is the #1 greenhouse gas, far beyond CO2.. Kinda defeats the point right?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948464</id>
	<title>Harmful gases hey?</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1257156240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where can I buy some of this to shove in my undies? I'll be so popular when i fart and it comes out roses^H^H^H^H^Hgardenias.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where can I buy some of this to shove in my undies ?
I 'll be so popular when i fart and it comes out roses ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ Hgardenias .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where can I buy some of this to shove in my undies?
I'll be so popular when i fart and it comes out roses^H^H^H^H^Hgardenias.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29951064</id>
	<title>Re:Shameless drivel</title>
	<author>wisdom\_brewing</author>
	<datestamp>1257181680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Try a Eucalyptus grove... Those thing grow insanely fast in most climates...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Try a Eucalyptus grove... Those thing grow insanely fast in most climates.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try a Eucalyptus grove... Those thing grow insanely fast in most climates...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29951744</id>
	<title>Dear Greenpeace</title>
	<author>The Yuckinator</author>
	<datestamp>1257184620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"How do you like GMO's now?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" How do you like GMO 's now ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"How do you like GMO's now?
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948184</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>Zerth</author>
	<datestamp>1257194460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seeing as water vapor is the largest greenhouse gas(by volume, mass, and \% of warming caused), could one say that this is like opening the fridge to cool the kitchen?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seeing as water vapor is the largest greenhouse gas ( by volume , mass , and \ % of warming caused ) , could one say that this is like opening the fridge to cool the kitchen ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seeing as water vapor is the largest greenhouse gas(by volume, mass, and \% of warming caused), could one say that this is like opening the fridge to cool the kitchen?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948104</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948744</id>
	<title>Water Vapor?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257161940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Water vapor is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2.  Talk about feel good marketing ploys!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Water vapor is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2 .
Talk about feel good marketing ploys !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Water vapor is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2.
Talk about feel good marketing ploys!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949350</id>
	<title>Re:If they want to reduce pollution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257171120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It could also do with a lot more of the primary environmental figures actually practicing even<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.001\% of what they preach. The worlds worst polluters are the very people screaming about how we need to cut down on pollution (just take a look at Al Gore's massive homes and electricity usage - I read once that he uses something like 14 times more electricity than the average US citizen - not to mention how much pollution is caused by flying around in private jets all the time).</p></div></blockquote><p>Yeah, that is kind of absurd. There are a few ameliorating factors. The dude is, after all, a former Vice President of the USA. As such he requires protection from the crazies. That protection probably consumes considerable resources (electricity, gasoline, airplane fuel..etc). Granted, it doesn't require huge homes.</p><p>However, as long as there are 30 environmentalists who consume less than the average amount of a given resource for each celebrity environmentalist the environmental movement is still reducing pollution. I would be surprised if there were even 1 celebrity environmentalist for every 100 environmentalists.</p><blockquote><div><p>While I am all for reducing pollution, the environmentalist lobby group is one of the biggest scams in history.</p></div></blockquote><p>Second only to all the scams perpetrated on the American taxpayer by big business. The tobacco lobby used to be huge (perhaps still is?). The oil/"energy" lobby is huge. Insurance is huge. So is the auto industry. Phamaceuticals are also huge.. big business in general has an extraordinary lock on government. Not only through lobbyists but when their top execs are "consult" "our" representatives.</p><p>Each of the lobbies I mentioned above has outright lied to our elected representatives at one time or another. Tobacco claimed cigarettes weren't addictive. At one point they even advertised it as a health-promoting habit (when they knew otherwise)! The auto industry has repeatedly claimed that it can't improve mileage yet countless developments (hybrid vehicles being the most obvious) demonstrate otherwise. When automobile safety legislation was first being considered, they claimed they couldn't make cars safer. The legislation passes and what do we get? Seat belts dramatically improve safety. Airbags. Crumple zones... etc. Pharmaceuticals have been pushing estrogen hormone therapy when they've known for years how detrimental it can be. They're all scammers making billions through deceit of the consumer and their elected representatives.</p><p>I'm sorry but folks who want clean water and clean air -- as opposed to what pours out of industrial plants -- are not the scammers. The scammers are the AIG execs who see taxpayers as the means to sustain their undeserved salaries. Or any executives paid thousands or millions of times the lifetime earning potential of the average worker. The scammers are the insurance companies that want to force everyone to buy their inflated insurance costs under the guise of "healthcare reform". Already we're forced to buy auto insurance for example -- how's that turning out? At least then you can choose to not own a car.). Insurance is the ultimate in legalized scamming. They take your money when times are good and then weasel out of paying even paltry sums when times are tough (true of auto, home, and health insurance). Then they have the gall to complain about people trying to scam them! Theft between theives.</p><p>And compared to that you want to call a bunch of penniless hippies scammers? Please!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It could also do with a lot more of the primary environmental figures actually practicing even .001 \ % of what they preach .
The worlds worst polluters are the very people screaming about how we need to cut down on pollution ( just take a look at Al Gore 's massive homes and electricity usage - I read once that he uses something like 14 times more electricity than the average US citizen - not to mention how much pollution is caused by flying around in private jets all the time ) .Yeah , that is kind of absurd .
There are a few ameliorating factors .
The dude is , after all , a former Vice President of the USA .
As such he requires protection from the crazies .
That protection probably consumes considerable resources ( electricity , gasoline , airplane fuel..etc ) .
Granted , it does n't require huge homes.However , as long as there are 30 environmentalists who consume less than the average amount of a given resource for each celebrity environmentalist the environmental movement is still reducing pollution .
I would be surprised if there were even 1 celebrity environmentalist for every 100 environmentalists.While I am all for reducing pollution , the environmentalist lobby group is one of the biggest scams in history.Second only to all the scams perpetrated on the American taxpayer by big business .
The tobacco lobby used to be huge ( perhaps still is ? ) .
The oil/ " energy " lobby is huge .
Insurance is huge .
So is the auto industry .
Phamaceuticals are also huge.. big business in general has an extraordinary lock on government .
Not only through lobbyists but when their top execs are " consult " " our " representatives.Each of the lobbies I mentioned above has outright lied to our elected representatives at one time or another .
Tobacco claimed cigarettes were n't addictive .
At one point they even advertised it as a health-promoting habit ( when they knew otherwise ) !
The auto industry has repeatedly claimed that it ca n't improve mileage yet countless developments ( hybrid vehicles being the most obvious ) demonstrate otherwise .
When automobile safety legislation was first being considered , they claimed they could n't make cars safer .
The legislation passes and what do we get ?
Seat belts dramatically improve safety .
Airbags. Crumple zones... etc. Pharmaceuticals have been pushing estrogen hormone therapy when they 've known for years how detrimental it can be .
They 're all scammers making billions through deceit of the consumer and their elected representatives.I 'm sorry but folks who want clean water and clean air -- as opposed to what pours out of industrial plants -- are not the scammers .
The scammers are the AIG execs who see taxpayers as the means to sustain their undeserved salaries .
Or any executives paid thousands or millions of times the lifetime earning potential of the average worker .
The scammers are the insurance companies that want to force everyone to buy their inflated insurance costs under the guise of " healthcare reform " .
Already we 're forced to buy auto insurance for example -- how 's that turning out ?
At least then you can choose to not own a car. ) .
Insurance is the ultimate in legalized scamming .
They take your money when times are good and then weasel out of paying even paltry sums when times are tough ( true of auto , home , and health insurance ) .
Then they have the gall to complain about people trying to scam them !
Theft between theives.And compared to that you want to call a bunch of penniless hippies scammers ?
Please !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It could also do with a lot more of the primary environmental figures actually practicing even .001\% of what they preach.
The worlds worst polluters are the very people screaming about how we need to cut down on pollution (just take a look at Al Gore's massive homes and electricity usage - I read once that he uses something like 14 times more electricity than the average US citizen - not to mention how much pollution is caused by flying around in private jets all the time).Yeah, that is kind of absurd.
There are a few ameliorating factors.
The dude is, after all, a former Vice President of the USA.
As such he requires protection from the crazies.
That protection probably consumes considerable resources (electricity, gasoline, airplane fuel..etc).
Granted, it doesn't require huge homes.However, as long as there are 30 environmentalists who consume less than the average amount of a given resource for each celebrity environmentalist the environmental movement is still reducing pollution.
I would be surprised if there were even 1 celebrity environmentalist for every 100 environmentalists.While I am all for reducing pollution, the environmentalist lobby group is one of the biggest scams in history.Second only to all the scams perpetrated on the American taxpayer by big business.
The tobacco lobby used to be huge (perhaps still is?).
The oil/"energy" lobby is huge.
Insurance is huge.
So is the auto industry.
Phamaceuticals are also huge.. big business in general has an extraordinary lock on government.
Not only through lobbyists but when their top execs are "consult" "our" representatives.Each of the lobbies I mentioned above has outright lied to our elected representatives at one time or another.
Tobacco claimed cigarettes weren't addictive.
At one point they even advertised it as a health-promoting habit (when they knew otherwise)!
The auto industry has repeatedly claimed that it can't improve mileage yet countless developments (hybrid vehicles being the most obvious) demonstrate otherwise.
When automobile safety legislation was first being considered, they claimed they couldn't make cars safer.
The legislation passes and what do we get?
Seat belts dramatically improve safety.
Airbags. Crumple zones... etc. Pharmaceuticals have been pushing estrogen hormone therapy when they've known for years how detrimental it can be.
They're all scammers making billions through deceit of the consumer and their elected representatives.I'm sorry but folks who want clean water and clean air -- as opposed to what pours out of industrial plants -- are not the scammers.
The scammers are the AIG execs who see taxpayers as the means to sustain their undeserved salaries.
Or any executives paid thousands or millions of times the lifetime earning potential of the average worker.
The scammers are the insurance companies that want to force everyone to buy their inflated insurance costs under the guise of "healthcare reform".
Already we're forced to buy auto insurance for example -- how's that turning out?
At least then you can choose to not own a car.).
Insurance is the ultimate in legalized scamming.
They take your money when times are good and then weasel out of paying even paltry sums when times are tough (true of auto, home, and health insurance).
Then they have the gall to complain about people trying to scam them!
Theft between theives.And compared to that you want to call a bunch of penniless hippies scammers?
Please!
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949742</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>skornenicholas</author>
	<datestamp>1257174720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You simple minded fools, we don't bring IN anything to eat the Goats. WE eat the goats! They are food, we feed the goats to the homeless and send millions of their frozen carcasses to Africa for food and reduce the amount of foreign aid we have to provide in the form of money. PRESTO INDEED.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You simple minded fools , we do n't bring IN anything to eat the Goats .
WE eat the goats !
They are food , we feed the goats to the homeless and send millions of their frozen carcasses to Africa for food and reduce the amount of foreign aid we have to provide in the form of money .
PRESTO INDEED .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You simple minded fools, we don't bring IN anything to eat the Goats.
WE eat the goats!
They are food, we feed the goats to the homeless and send millions of their frozen carcasses to Africa for food and reduce the amount of foreign aid we have to provide in the form of money.
PRESTO INDEED.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948670</id>
	<title>Re:If they want to reduce pollution</title>
	<author>L4t3r4lu5</author>
	<datestamp>1257160380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>GM tried, but the government just won't let them stop. Even when nobody is buying them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>GM tried , but the government just wo n't let them stop .
Even when nobody is buying them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GM tried, but the government just won't let them stop.
Even when nobody is buying them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948268</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949564</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>db32</author>
	<datestamp>1257173400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With sandworms comes spice!  With spice comes prescience.  Prescience brings the Kwizats Haderach.  The Kwizats Haderach makes it rain.  The rain kills the sandworms and then plants can grow again...  Come on now, don't you know anything?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With sandworms comes spice !
With spice comes prescience .
Prescience brings the Kwizats Haderach .
The Kwizats Haderach makes it rain .
The rain kills the sandworms and then plants can grow again... Come on now , do n't you know anything ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With sandworms comes spice!
With spice comes prescience.
Prescience brings the Kwizats Haderach.
The Kwizats Haderach makes it rain.
The rain kills the sandworms and then plants can grow again...  Come on now, don't you know anything?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948502</id>
	<title>Re:If they want to reduce pollution</title>
	<author>Rogerborg</author>
	<datestamp>1257156960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Presumably they like to earn enough to enjoy the luxuries of life, like putting their kids through college, health care, food, that sort of thing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Presumably they like to earn enough to enjoy the luxuries of life , like putting their kids through college , health care , food , that sort of thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Presumably they like to earn enough to enjoy the luxuries of life, like putting their kids through college, health care, food, that sort of thing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29952652</id>
	<title>Re:Plants eventually die</title>
	<author>fugue</author>
	<datestamp>1257189180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, it's a stopgap.

</p><p>But we need a stopgap.  We need to reduce carbon levels yesterday, and that means not just cutting emissions to nothing, but also an emergency program of planting trees, which if done on a large enough scale, could save our asses from the fire for the next 100 years while we figured how to actually live like a civilisation that means to be around for a while.

</p><p>I, for one, support military intervention in Brazil, the Amazon, Canada, and all those other places where people are cutting down trees... um, that'd be everywhere.  But it looks pretty good compared to the alternative.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , it 's a stopgap .
But we need a stopgap .
We need to reduce carbon levels yesterday , and that means not just cutting emissions to nothing , but also an emergency program of planting trees , which if done on a large enough scale , could save our asses from the fire for the next 100 years while we figured how to actually live like a civilisation that means to be around for a while .
I , for one , support military intervention in Brazil , the Amazon , Canada , and all those other places where people are cutting down trees... um , that 'd be everywhere .
But it looks pretty good compared to the alternative .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, it's a stopgap.
But we need a stopgap.
We need to reduce carbon levels yesterday, and that means not just cutting emissions to nothing, but also an emergency program of planting trees, which if done on a large enough scale, could save our asses from the fire for the next 100 years while we figured how to actually live like a civilisation that means to be around for a while.
I, for one, support military intervention in Brazil, the Amazon, Canada, and all those other places where people are cutting down trees... um, that'd be everywhere.
But it looks pretty good compared to the alternative.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948328</id>
	<title>In a fast german car...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257153720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm amazed that I survived<br>An airbag saved my life</p><p>Too abstract?....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm amazed that I survivedAn airbag saved my lifeToo abstract ? ... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm amazed that I survivedAn airbag saved my lifeToo abstract?....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29952244</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257187020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>can anyone say "Day of the Triffids"!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>can anyone say " Day of the Triffids " !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>can anyone say "Day of the Triffids"!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29952562</id>
	<title>Re:Shameless drivel</title>
	<author>xelah</author>
	<datestamp>1257188640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It is a load of shameless and deceptive nonsense; and does make it better that it is wrapped up in florid language, if you will excuse the pun, hur, hur. "Create a new species"? Even highly educated plant breeders haven't been able to do that, but a car manufacturer manages to do it with a gesture and a lorry-load of hype?</p></div><p>
I'm not so sure that 'species' is so well defined a concept when it comes to plants and hybrids that everyone agrees on what is and isn't a new species. However, I distinctly suspect that 'hybrid' got turned in to 'species' somewhere between the grower's mouth and journalist's article. Science journalists in particular seem to love writing complete bollocks that sometimes even flatly contradicts their only source.
</p><p><div class="quote"><p>For a plant species to work well as carbon-capturer,</p></div><p>
No-one has said anything about them capturing carbon. They were chosen to capture and degrade other pollutants. Plants<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/do/ degrade pollutants like formaldehyde and some people buy particular pot plants specifically to reduce volatile organic compounds in their indoor air. (Though you're probably better off buying a proper filter). It sounds like Toyota's gardener has heard of the idea and though 'hmm, maybe I could do that, too' and then made the mistake of allowing their PR department to catch on.</p></div>
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<tokenext>It is a load of shameless and deceptive nonsense ; and does make it better that it is wrapped up in florid language , if you will excuse the pun , hur , hur .
" Create a new species " ?
Even highly educated plant breeders have n't been able to do that , but a car manufacturer manages to do it with a gesture and a lorry-load of hype ?
I 'm not so sure that 'species ' is so well defined a concept when it comes to plants and hybrids that everyone agrees on what is and is n't a new species .
However , I distinctly suspect that 'hybrid ' got turned in to 'species ' somewhere between the grower 's mouth and journalist 's article .
Science journalists in particular seem to love writing complete bollocks that sometimes even flatly contradicts their only source .
For a plant species to work well as carbon-capturer , No-one has said anything about them capturing carbon .
They were chosen to capture and degrade other pollutants .
Plants /do/ degrade pollutants like formaldehyde and some people buy particular pot plants specifically to reduce volatile organic compounds in their indoor air .
( Though you 're probably better off buying a proper filter ) .
It sounds like Toyota 's gardener has heard of the idea and though 'hmm , maybe I could do that , too ' and then made the mistake of allowing their PR department to catch on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is a load of shameless and deceptive nonsense; and does make it better that it is wrapped up in florid language, if you will excuse the pun, hur, hur.
"Create a new species"?
Even highly educated plant breeders haven't been able to do that, but a car manufacturer manages to do it with a gesture and a lorry-load of hype?
I'm not so sure that 'species' is so well defined a concept when it comes to plants and hybrids that everyone agrees on what is and isn't a new species.
However, I distinctly suspect that 'hybrid' got turned in to 'species' somewhere between the grower's mouth and journalist's article.
Science journalists in particular seem to love writing complete bollocks that sometimes even flatly contradicts their only source.
For a plant species to work well as carbon-capturer,
No-one has said anything about them capturing carbon.
They were chosen to capture and degrade other pollutants.
Plants /do/ degrade pollutants like formaldehyde and some people buy particular pot plants specifically to reduce volatile organic compounds in their indoor air.
(Though you're probably better off buying a proper filter).
It sounds like Toyota's gardener has heard of the idea and though 'hmm, maybe I could do that, too' and then made the mistake of allowing their PR department to catch on.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948838</id>
	<title>Re:Availability</title>
	<author>TubeSteak</author>
	<datestamp>1257163740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Ignoring naysayers for now, and assuming this plant is the benefit the article claims: What about me?<br>Does Toyota plan to release these plants for sale at my local garden store?</p></div><p>Not at your local garden store, but they are for sale through "Toyota Roof Garden Corporation".<br>AFAICT their sales are entirely out of Japan, so good luck with ordering.<br><a href="http://www.toyota-roofgarden.co.jp/" title="toyota-roofgarden.co.jp">http://www.toyota-roofgarden.co.jp/</a> [toyota-roofgarden.co.jp]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ignoring naysayers for now , and assuming this plant is the benefit the article claims : What about me ? Does Toyota plan to release these plants for sale at my local garden store ? Not at your local garden store , but they are for sale through " Toyota Roof Garden Corporation " .AFAICT their sales are entirely out of Japan , so good luck with ordering.http : //www.toyota-roofgarden.co.jp/ [ toyota-roofgarden.co.jp ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ignoring naysayers for now, and assuming this plant is the benefit the article claims: What about me?Does Toyota plan to release these plants for sale at my local garden store?Not at your local garden store, but they are for sale through "Toyota Roof Garden Corporation".AFAICT their sales are entirely out of Japan, so good luck with ordering.http://www.toyota-roofgarden.co.jp/ [toyota-roofgarden.co.jp]
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948612</id>
	<title>Re:FRAUD ALERT -- Slashdot sucked in again?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257159120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While I agree that it does seem like this will do little, from the article you posted, it sounds like nitrogen can normally only be absorbed by the roots of plants, and only by means of nitrifying bacteria. The article says the plants can absorb nitrogen oxides directly through the leaves. I'm no botanist, but I think that's the key to the article, not that they can metabolize nitrogen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While I agree that it does seem like this will do little , from the article you posted , it sounds like nitrogen can normally only be absorbed by the roots of plants , and only by means of nitrifying bacteria .
The article says the plants can absorb nitrogen oxides directly through the leaves .
I 'm no botanist , but I think that 's the key to the article , not that they can metabolize nitrogen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I agree that it does seem like this will do little, from the article you posted, it sounds like nitrogen can normally only be absorbed by the roots of plants, and only by means of nitrifying bacteria.
The article says the plants can absorb nitrogen oxides directly through the leaves.
I'm no botanist, but I think that's the key to the article, not that they can metabolize nitrogen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949320</id>
	<title>Re:If they want to reduce pollution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257170760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Al Gore offsets his emissions by purchasing carbon indulgences.  From his own carbon indulgence company, of course.  It's a very convenient arrangement.  I wouldn't be surprised to learn that carbon indulgence purchases also count as a tax credit.  That's just how that smarmy douchebag rolls...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Al Gore offsets his emissions by purchasing carbon indulgences .
From his own carbon indulgence company , of course .
It 's a very convenient arrangement .
I would n't be surprised to learn that carbon indulgence purchases also count as a tax credit .
That 's just how that smarmy douchebag rolls.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Al Gore offsets his emissions by purchasing carbon indulgences.
From his own carbon indulgence company, of course.
It's a very convenient arrangement.
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that carbon indulgence purchases also count as a tax credit.
That's just how that smarmy douchebag rolls...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948462</id>
	<title>Perfect Timing!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257156240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm finalizing work on a new species of cow that eats unnecessary grass that has been dried. It then produces plenty of methane and CO2 to feed these plants.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm finalizing work on a new species of cow that eats unnecessary grass that has been dried .
It then produces plenty of methane and CO2 to feed these plants .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm finalizing work on a new species of cow that eats unnecessary grass that has been dried.
It then produces plenty of methane and CO2 to feed these plants.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949714</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>R2.0</author>
	<datestamp>1257174480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"What do the goats eat once they've finished the kudzu? "</p><p>Make "goats" the object of the verb "eat" and you have your answer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" What do the goats eat once they 've finished the kudzu ?
" Make " goats " the object of the verb " eat " and you have your answer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"What do the goats eat once they've finished the kudzu?
"Make "goats" the object of the verb "eat" and you have your answer.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29950138</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>heritage727</author>
	<datestamp>1257176940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What do the goats eat once they've finished the kudzu?

</p><p>Ask Africa.  They eat <em>everything</em>.  Then you get desert.  Then come the <em>sandworms</em>.  Nice, you've doomed us all.</p></div><p>No, no, George Clooney will take care of the goats. I'm not worried.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What do the goats eat once they 've finished the kudzu ?
Ask Africa .
They eat everything .
Then you get desert .
Then come the sandworms .
Nice , you 've doomed us all.No , no , George Clooney will take care of the goats .
I 'm not worried .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What do the goats eat once they've finished the kudzu?
Ask Africa.
They eat everything.
Then you get desert.
Then come the sandworms.
Nice, you've doomed us all.No, no, George Clooney will take care of the goats.
I'm not worried.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29951010</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>jc42</author>
	<datestamp>1257181320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>Well, I am a bit confused. Plants do perspire and release water vapour but they also usually release heat (they have a metabolism and show on infrared).</i> </p><p>It is a bit complicated.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p><p>It's true that plants give off IR radiation.  But they also release water vapor, and the evaporation process is endothermic.  This cools the plant tissues slightly, and conductance cools the air at the leaf surfaces.  There's a lot of energy conversion and transfer going on around a functioning leaf.  The "bottom line" of it all is that the air among masses of plant life is usually a few degrees cooler than the outside air, unless the air is cold, when the plants may somewhat warm the air.  You can feel this when you walk into a clump of trees, even if you're still in the sunlight.  Much of this effect is due to inefficiencies in the plants' techniques for controlling their own internal temperature.</p><p>It is interesting that plants can be giving off IR while being cooler than their surroundings.  Part of the explanation is that the photosynthetic process involves a lot of frequency shifting.  Photons are absorbed at one frequency, electrons bounce the absorbed energy around a bit, and another photon is radiated at a lower energy level.  Most of this is significant to the plant's metabolism, but there are inefficiences.  Thus, chlorophyll absorbs best in the green/blue part of the spectrum; a quick google found a graph at <a href="http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Chlorophyll" title="statemaster.com">http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Chlorophyll</a> [statemaster.com].  Note the complexity of the graph, with a lower peak in the red.  To increase its absorbency, chloroplasts surround the chlorophyll with frequency-shifting molecules that absorb photons at other frequencies and reradiate the energy as photons that the chlorophyll prefers.  But chlorophyll molecules don't intercept all these green/blue(/red) photons, explaining why leaves are greener than the incoming light.  The whole process is impressively complex, and we're not very close to fully understanding it all.  But much of the accidental reradiation is at low-energy frequencies, in the IR part of the spectrum.</p><p>Some interesting research reports a few years ago involved some tiny temperature sensors that could measure the temperature inside leaves.  They reported that a wide variety of plants tested, over a wide range of atmospheric conditions, the internal leaf temperatures were close to 21 Celsius.  This is somewhat cooler than our body temperature, and generally different from the air.  The "higher" plants seem to have evolved some impressive temperature regulation methods, presumably because chemistry is simpler and cheaper if you can control the temperature.  So at cooler temperatures, leaves tend to absorb lots  of photons that they don't need for photosynthesis, but which function solely to warm the leaf to its operating temperature.  The leakage from this process mostly loses low-energy photons, i.e., infrared.  At higher temperatures, leaves can both radiate more energetic photons, and also release water vapor, which cools the tissues rapidly.  In this case, most of the inefficiency is in heat absorbed from the surrounding warmer air, which is the main reason that clumps of plants are cool.  But it's not really that the water was vaporized to cool the air.  It was vaporized to cool the internal leaf tissues, and the air cooling is due to poor insulation at the leaf surface.  The plants are trying to keep themselves at operating temperature, and cooling of surrounding warmer air is an inefficiency in this process.</p><p>Anyway, it's complex.  And it's impressive how much control can be done by critters that have no muscles or nervous system and are stuck spending their whole life in one spot.  It's almost entirely complex chemistry, including some very sophisticated control of photons and passing energy via electrons along chains of carbon atoms.  Understanding what's known of it takes years of study.  But you can find a lot of summaries by googling for someth</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I am a bit confused .
Plants do perspire and release water vapour but they also usually release heat ( they have a metabolism and show on infrared ) .
It is a bit complicated .
; - ) It 's true that plants give off IR radiation .
But they also release water vapor , and the evaporation process is endothermic .
This cools the plant tissues slightly , and conductance cools the air at the leaf surfaces .
There 's a lot of energy conversion and transfer going on around a functioning leaf .
The " bottom line " of it all is that the air among masses of plant life is usually a few degrees cooler than the outside air , unless the air is cold , when the plants may somewhat warm the air .
You can feel this when you walk into a clump of trees , even if you 're still in the sunlight .
Much of this effect is due to inefficiencies in the plants ' techniques for controlling their own internal temperature.It is interesting that plants can be giving off IR while being cooler than their surroundings .
Part of the explanation is that the photosynthetic process involves a lot of frequency shifting .
Photons are absorbed at one frequency , electrons bounce the absorbed energy around a bit , and another photon is radiated at a lower energy level .
Most of this is significant to the plant 's metabolism , but there are inefficiences .
Thus , chlorophyll absorbs best in the green/blue part of the spectrum ; a quick google found a graph at http : //www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Chlorophyll [ statemaster.com ] .
Note the complexity of the graph , with a lower peak in the red .
To increase its absorbency , chloroplasts surround the chlorophyll with frequency-shifting molecules that absorb photons at other frequencies and reradiate the energy as photons that the chlorophyll prefers .
But chlorophyll molecules do n't intercept all these green/blue ( /red ) photons , explaining why leaves are greener than the incoming light .
The whole process is impressively complex , and we 're not very close to fully understanding it all .
But much of the accidental reradiation is at low-energy frequencies , in the IR part of the spectrum.Some interesting research reports a few years ago involved some tiny temperature sensors that could measure the temperature inside leaves .
They reported that a wide variety of plants tested , over a wide range of atmospheric conditions , the internal leaf temperatures were close to 21 Celsius .
This is somewhat cooler than our body temperature , and generally different from the air .
The " higher " plants seem to have evolved some impressive temperature regulation methods , presumably because chemistry is simpler and cheaper if you can control the temperature .
So at cooler temperatures , leaves tend to absorb lots of photons that they do n't need for photosynthesis , but which function solely to warm the leaf to its operating temperature .
The leakage from this process mostly loses low-energy photons , i.e. , infrared .
At higher temperatures , leaves can both radiate more energetic photons , and also release water vapor , which cools the tissues rapidly .
In this case , most of the inefficiency is in heat absorbed from the surrounding warmer air , which is the main reason that clumps of plants are cool .
But it 's not really that the water was vaporized to cool the air .
It was vaporized to cool the internal leaf tissues , and the air cooling is due to poor insulation at the leaf surface .
The plants are trying to keep themselves at operating temperature , and cooling of surrounding warmer air is an inefficiency in this process.Anyway , it 's complex .
And it 's impressive how much control can be done by critters that have no muscles or nervous system and are stuck spending their whole life in one spot .
It 's almost entirely complex chemistry , including some very sophisticated control of photons and passing energy via electrons along chains of carbon atoms .
Understanding what 's known of it takes years of study .
But you can find a lot of summaries by googling for someth</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Well, I am a bit confused.
Plants do perspire and release water vapour but they also usually release heat (they have a metabolism and show on infrared).
It is a bit complicated.
;-)It's true that plants give off IR radiation.
But they also release water vapor, and the evaporation process is endothermic.
This cools the plant tissues slightly, and conductance cools the air at the leaf surfaces.
There's a lot of energy conversion and transfer going on around a functioning leaf.
The "bottom line" of it all is that the air among masses of plant life is usually a few degrees cooler than the outside air, unless the air is cold, when the plants may somewhat warm the air.
You can feel this when you walk into a clump of trees, even if you're still in the sunlight.
Much of this effect is due to inefficiencies in the plants' techniques for controlling their own internal temperature.It is interesting that plants can be giving off IR while being cooler than their surroundings.
Part of the explanation is that the photosynthetic process involves a lot of frequency shifting.
Photons are absorbed at one frequency, electrons bounce the absorbed energy around a bit, and another photon is radiated at a lower energy level.
Most of this is significant to the plant's metabolism, but there are inefficiences.
Thus, chlorophyll absorbs best in the green/blue part of the spectrum; a quick google found a graph at http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Chlorophyll [statemaster.com].
Note the complexity of the graph, with a lower peak in the red.
To increase its absorbency, chloroplasts surround the chlorophyll with frequency-shifting molecules that absorb photons at other frequencies and reradiate the energy as photons that the chlorophyll prefers.
But chlorophyll molecules don't intercept all these green/blue(/red) photons, explaining why leaves are greener than the incoming light.
The whole process is impressively complex, and we're not very close to fully understanding it all.
But much of the accidental reradiation is at low-energy frequencies, in the IR part of the spectrum.Some interesting research reports a few years ago involved some tiny temperature sensors that could measure the temperature inside leaves.
They reported that a wide variety of plants tested, over a wide range of atmospheric conditions, the internal leaf temperatures were close to 21 Celsius.
This is somewhat cooler than our body temperature, and generally different from the air.
The "higher" plants seem to have evolved some impressive temperature regulation methods, presumably because chemistry is simpler and cheaper if you can control the temperature.
So at cooler temperatures, leaves tend to absorb lots  of photons that they don't need for photosynthesis, but which function solely to warm the leaf to its operating temperature.
The leakage from this process mostly loses low-energy photons, i.e., infrared.
At higher temperatures, leaves can both radiate more energetic photons, and also release water vapor, which cools the tissues rapidly.
In this case, most of the inefficiency is in heat absorbed from the surrounding warmer air, which is the main reason that clumps of plants are cool.
But it's not really that the water was vaporized to cool the air.
It was vaporized to cool the internal leaf tissues, and the air cooling is due to poor insulation at the leaf surface.
The plants are trying to keep themselves at operating temperature, and cooling of surrounding warmer air is an inefficiency in this process.Anyway, it's complex.
And it's impressive how much control can be done by critters that have no muscles or nervous system and are stuck spending their whole life in one spot.
It's almost entirely complex chemistry, including some very sophisticated control of photons and passing energy via electrons along chains of carbon atoms.
Understanding what's known of it takes years of study.
But you can find a lot of summaries by googling for someth</sentencetext>
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	<title>Genetic mods??? No good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257006180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Genetically modifying plants is not good for the enviorment at all. Research how they do it and how it affects the enviorment. A great documentary "The Future of Food" illustrates many of these points.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Genetically modifying plants is not good for the enviorment at all .
Research how they do it and how it affects the enviorment .
A great documentary " The Future of Food " illustrates many of these points .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Genetically modifying plants is not good for the enviorment at all.
Research how they do it and how it affects the enviorment.
A great documentary "The Future of Food" illustrates many of these points.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948524</id>
	<title>Re:If they want to reduce pollution</title>
	<author>aussie\_a</author>
	<datestamp>1257157380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree. They could also get into the assassin business, so they can stop people like you from polluting the internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
They could also get into the assassin business , so they can stop people like you from polluting the internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
They could also get into the assassin business, so they can stop people like you from polluting the internet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948268</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948304</id>
	<title>Flower Power ... Back Baby !</title>
	<author>bintech</author>
	<datestamp>1257153360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Kumbaya my Lord , kumbaya.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948538</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>Yvanhoe</author>
	<datestamp>1257157560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, I am a bit confused. Plants do perspire and release water vapour but they also usually release heat (they have a metabolism and show on infrared). I think that once agains one has to dismiss the sensationalist journalism and get at the real science. My suspicion is that the only new thing here is the absorption nitrogen oxide and that Toyota also reminded the journalist the other advantages a plant offers in a workplace.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I am a bit confused .
Plants do perspire and release water vapour but they also usually release heat ( they have a metabolism and show on infrared ) .
I think that once agains one has to dismiss the sensationalist journalism and get at the real science .
My suspicion is that the only new thing here is the absorption nitrogen oxide and that Toyota also reminded the journalist the other advantages a plant offers in a workplace .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I am a bit confused.
Plants do perspire and release water vapour but they also usually release heat (they have a metabolism and show on infrared).
I think that once agains one has to dismiss the sensationalist journalism and get at the real science.
My suspicion is that the only new thing here is the absorption nitrogen oxide and that Toyota also reminded the journalist the other advantages a plant offers in a workplace.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948104</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948682</id>
	<title>And then?</title>
	<author>VincenzoRomano</author>
	<datestamp>1257160560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What are the long term plans for the foliage disposal?<br>
Once those leaves will be stuffed with the bad gases, they will die. And then?<br>
Back to the soil and the athmosphere?<br>
Nice solution then!</htmltext>
<tokenext>What are the long term plans for the foliage disposal ?
Once those leaves will be stuffed with the bad gases , they will die .
And then ?
Back to the soil and the athmosphere ?
Nice solution then !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are the long term plans for the foliage disposal?
Once those leaves will be stuffed with the bad gases, they will die.
And then?
Back to the soil and the athmosphere?
Nice solution then!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948126</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257193440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good point.  Their heating costs go down bu the amount of water they're using probably goes up.  Is it worth sacrificing water conservation for power conservation?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good point .
Their heating costs go down bu the amount of water they 're using probably goes up .
Is it worth sacrificing water conservation for power conservation ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good point.
Their heating costs go down bu the amount of water they're using probably goes up.
Is it worth sacrificing water conservation for power conservation?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948104</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949198</id>
	<title>Re:Availability</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257169020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nice slow growing lawn you don't have to mow. White clover.  It grows ~4-6 inches high and never needs mowing.  It also has the benefit that the neighbourhood bees will go into an orgy of honey making, usually enough to last a small family all winter.  The butterfly's and other insect life is another nice bonus.  Downside is that some wildlife thinks it's an all you can eat buffet.  But I can't say I mind watching deer and moose fertilizing the yard from my front window.</p><p>Unfortunately, you probably live in a city, and local by-laws will force you to have a grass lawn.  Stupidest idea ever.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nice slow growing lawn you do n't have to mow .
White clover .
It grows ~ 4-6 inches high and never needs mowing .
It also has the benefit that the neighbourhood bees will go into an orgy of honey making , usually enough to last a small family all winter .
The butterfly 's and other insect life is another nice bonus .
Downside is that some wildlife thinks it 's an all you can eat buffet .
But I ca n't say I mind watching deer and moose fertilizing the yard from my front window.Unfortunately , you probably live in a city , and local by-laws will force you to have a grass lawn .
Stupidest idea ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nice slow growing lawn you don't have to mow.
White clover.
It grows ~4-6 inches high and never needs mowing.
It also has the benefit that the neighbourhood bees will go into an orgy of honey making, usually enough to last a small family all winter.
The butterfly's and other insect life is another nice bonus.
Downside is that some wildlife thinks it's an all you can eat buffet.
But I can't say I mind watching deer and moose fertilizing the yard from my front window.Unfortunately, you probably live in a city, and local by-laws will force you to have a grass lawn.
Stupidest idea ever.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949664</id>
	<title>accumulation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257174120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have they conducted tests on how this affects insects? When bees and the likes come to feed of the flower, and then have the harmful components accumulate in the higher foodchains? Like they teach you in biology?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have they conducted tests on how this affects insects ?
When bees and the likes come to feed of the flower , and then have the harmful components accumulate in the higher foodchains ?
Like they teach you in biology ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have they conducted tests on how this affects insects?
When bees and the likes come to feed of the flower, and then have the harmful components accumulate in the higher foodchains?
Like they teach you in biology?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949070</id>
	<title>Shameless drivel</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257167280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is a load of shameless and deceptive nonsense; and does make it better that it is wrapped up in florid language, if you will excuse the pun, hur, hur. "Create a new species"? Even highly educated plant breeders haven't been able to do that, but a car manufacturer manages to do it with a gesture and a lorry-load of hype?</p><p>For a plant species to work well as carbon-capturer, it ought to grow fast (thus producing large quantities of biomass) and it should break down slowly, so the CO2 isn't released quickly again. Gardenias and sages don't really fit the bill - grasses might, some trees might and green algae, perhaps. But I understand, of course - surrounding the offices with a few hectares of slimy ponds isn't as pretty.</p><p>The real mystery is - how on Earth did this make it as far as being mentioned here?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is a load of shameless and deceptive nonsense ; and does make it better that it is wrapped up in florid language , if you will excuse the pun , hur , hur .
" Create a new species " ?
Even highly educated plant breeders have n't been able to do that , but a car manufacturer manages to do it with a gesture and a lorry-load of hype ? For a plant species to work well as carbon-capturer , it ought to grow fast ( thus producing large quantities of biomass ) and it should break down slowly , so the CO2 is n't released quickly again .
Gardenias and sages do n't really fit the bill - grasses might , some trees might and green algae , perhaps .
But I understand , of course - surrounding the offices with a few hectares of slimy ponds is n't as pretty.The real mystery is - how on Earth did this make it as far as being mentioned here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is a load of shameless and deceptive nonsense; and does make it better that it is wrapped up in florid language, if you will excuse the pun, hur, hur.
"Create a new species"?
Even highly educated plant breeders haven't been able to do that, but a car manufacturer manages to do it with a gesture and a lorry-load of hype?For a plant species to work well as carbon-capturer, it ought to grow fast (thus producing large quantities of biomass) and it should break down slowly, so the CO2 isn't released quickly again.
Gardenias and sages don't really fit the bill - grasses might, some trees might and green algae, perhaps.
But I understand, of course - surrounding the offices with a few hectares of slimy ponds isn't as pretty.The real mystery is - how on Earth did this make it as far as being mentioned here?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29951324</id>
	<title>In the U.S. ...</title>
	<author>rnturn</author>
	<datestamp>1257182760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some company like Monsanto will come up with plants like these (available only from them, of course) and patent the whole idea just so they can make a buck off of saving the planet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some company like Monsanto will come up with plants like these ( available only from them , of course ) and patent the whole idea just so they can make a buck off of saving the planet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some company like Monsanto will come up with plants like these (available only from them, of course) and patent the whole idea just so they can make a buck off of saving the planet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948106</id>
	<title>Tea Time!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257193080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>...And then you can dry it and brew tea!</htmltext>
<tokenext>...And then you can dry it and brew tea !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...And then you can dry it and brew tea!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948250</id>
	<title>Re:Bad reporting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257152640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>But, but, but... TOYOTA made this plant! From like, their super duper plant manufacturing plant, man!</htmltext>
<tokenext>But , but , but... TOYOTA made this plant !
From like , their super duper plant manufacturing plant , man !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But, but, but... TOYOTA made this plant!
From like, their super duper plant manufacturing plant, man!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948142</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29951728</id>
	<title>A change in business type?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257184560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Stop buying Toyota cars. Toyota is into flowers now!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Stop buying Toyota cars .
Toyota is into flowers now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stop buying Toyota cars.
Toyota is into flowers now!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948550</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29953292</id>
	<title>Re:Bad reporting</title>
	<author>dasunt</author>
	<datestamp>1257192180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
The irony is that water vapor is a powerful greenhouse gas that currently contributes to most of the global warming in earth's atmosphere.  (We'd be something around 25 to 30 degrees C cooler without it.)
</p><p>
CO2 contributes to a minor fraction.
</p><p>
Not that anthropogenic water vapor is a huge factor, AFAIK.  But it is interesting that people assume water vapor has no effect on the climate, while CO2 is often assumed to be the sole factor.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The irony is that water vapor is a powerful greenhouse gas that currently contributes to most of the global warming in earth 's atmosphere .
( We 'd be something around 25 to 30 degrees C cooler without it .
) CO2 contributes to a minor fraction .
Not that anthropogenic water vapor is a huge factor , AFAIK .
But it is interesting that people assume water vapor has no effect on the climate , while CO2 is often assumed to be the sole factor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
The irony is that water vapor is a powerful greenhouse gas that currently contributes to most of the global warming in earth's atmosphere.
(We'd be something around 25 to 30 degrees C cooler without it.
)

CO2 contributes to a minor fraction.
Not that anthropogenic water vapor is a huge factor, AFAIK.
But it is interesting that people assume water vapor has no effect on the climate, while CO2 is often assumed to be the sole factor.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948142</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948756</id>
	<title>DNA* headline</title>
	<author>codeButcher</author>
	<datestamp>1257162240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's what happens when you are too stressed at work to properly read. You develop faux dyslexia. So that headline read:</p><blockquote><div><p>Toyota Develops New Flower Species To Reduce <b>Pollination</b></p></div> </blockquote><p>And then I run around claiming that everything I know I've learnt from<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. headlines.... Scary.
</p><p> <i>(* = National Dyslexia Association, for those who've never heard the old joke.)</i></p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what happens when you are too stressed at work to properly read .
You develop faux dyslexia .
So that headline read : Toyota Develops New Flower Species To Reduce Pollination And then I run around claiming that everything I know I 've learnt from / .
headlines.... Scary .
( * = National Dyslexia Association , for those who 've never heard the old joke .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's what happens when you are too stressed at work to properly read.
You develop faux dyslexia.
So that headline read:Toyota Develops New Flower Species To Reduce Pollination And then I run around claiming that everything I know I've learnt from /.
headlines.... Scary.
(* = National Dyslexia Association, for those who've never heard the old joke.
)
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949208</id>
	<title>Re:Plants eventually die</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257169200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But...  but... but it makes me FEEL good!</p><p>Al Gore is a very shrewd businessman, nothing more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But... but... but it makes me FEEL good ! Al Gore is a very shrewd businessman , nothing more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But...  but... but it makes me FEEL good!Al Gore is a very shrewd businessman, nothing more.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948094</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948158</id>
	<title>Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>assemblerex</author>
	<datestamp>1257193920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let's cross breed with kudzu! We can always just pull it up. I mean, Kudzu is so easy to get rid of, right?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's cross breed with kudzu !
We can always just pull it up .
I mean , Kudzu is so easy to get rid of , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's cross breed with kudzu!
We can always just pull it up.
I mean, Kudzu is so easy to get rid of, right?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948394</id>
	<title>What could possibly go wrong...?</title>
	<author>primesuspect</author>
	<datestamp>1257154740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Feed me, Seymour...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-/</htmltext>
<tokenext>Feed me , Seymour... : -/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Feed me, Seymour... :-/</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949628</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>Dragonslicer</author>
	<datestamp>1257173820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Then come the <em>sandworms</em></p> </div><p>Then you have to spend your entire afterlife worrying about the next sandworm attack.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then come the sandworms Then you have to spend your entire afterlife worrying about the next sandworm attack .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then come the sandworms Then you have to spend your entire afterlife worrying about the next sandworm attack.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948492</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29953702</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>operagost</author>
	<datestamp>1257193860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Then when the global cooling comes because we've overdone it, they all freeze to death!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then when the global cooling comes because we 've overdone it , they all freeze to death !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then when the global cooling comes because we've overdone it, they all freeze to death!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949618</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949138</id>
	<title>Amazing.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257168360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Trees that absorb polutants and release water vapor.  Oh my God!  Tell everyone what an amazing discovery!</p><p>Oh yeah wait a minute we've known this for like the last 100 years.</p><p>The best way to lower your carbon footprint is to stop breathing, feel free to do so at any time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Trees that absorb polutants and release water vapor .
Oh my God !
Tell everyone what an amazing discovery ! Oh yeah wait a minute we 've known this for like the last 100 years.The best way to lower your carbon footprint is to stop breathing , feel free to do so at any time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Trees that absorb polutants and release water vapor.
Oh my God!
Tell everyone what an amazing discovery!Oh yeah wait a minute we've known this for like the last 100 years.The best way to lower your carbon footprint is to stop breathing, feel free to do so at any time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949838</id>
	<title>Re:Water Vapor?</title>
	<author>canajin56</author>
	<datestamp>1257175200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, it's less potent by 5x.  It has a bigger effect on the atmosphere because there is 40 times as much of it in the air...also as the other poster pointed out, it falls out of the air all of the time.  You may be familiar with the effect, even if you live in a desert.  And the article is about NOx.  That's 1500 as strong a greenhouse gas as water vapor.  Still so absolutely positive that gardens are the true and only cause of the greenhouse effect?  Your argument makes sense, right?  Who uses greenhouses?  Gardeners!  QED, BITCHES.  Burn down all of the fields and forrests, trees cause global warming, that's why things keep cooling off as we cut them down!  Temperatures only started rising again as damn hippies made us plant trees!  CRUEL IRONY.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , it 's less potent by 5x .
It has a bigger effect on the atmosphere because there is 40 times as much of it in the air...also as the other poster pointed out , it falls out of the air all of the time .
You may be familiar with the effect , even if you live in a desert .
And the article is about NOx .
That 's 1500 as strong a greenhouse gas as water vapor .
Still so absolutely positive that gardens are the true and only cause of the greenhouse effect ?
Your argument makes sense , right ?
Who uses greenhouses ?
Gardeners ! QED , BITCHES .
Burn down all of the fields and forrests , trees cause global warming , that 's why things keep cooling off as we cut them down !
Temperatures only started rising again as damn hippies made us plant trees !
CRUEL IRONY .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, it's less potent by 5x.
It has a bigger effect on the atmosphere because there is 40 times as much of it in the air...also as the other poster pointed out, it falls out of the air all of the time.
You may be familiar with the effect, even if you live in a desert.
And the article is about NOx.
That's 1500 as strong a greenhouse gas as water vapor.
Still so absolutely positive that gardens are the true and only cause of the greenhouse effect?
Your argument makes sense, right?
Who uses greenhouses?
Gardeners!  QED, BITCHES.
Burn down all of the fields and forrests, trees cause global warming, that's why things keep cooling off as we cut them down!
Temperatures only started rising again as damn hippies made us plant trees!
CRUEL IRONY.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948744</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29950380</id>
	<title>Water Vapor no.1 greenhouse gas.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257178440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All plants release water vapor, which is, by far, the number one greenhouse gas.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All plants release water vapor , which is , by far , the number one greenhouse gas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All plants release water vapor, which is, by far, the number one greenhouse gas.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949618</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>Chris Mattern</author>
	<datestamp>1257173760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>What do the goats eat once they've finished the kudzu?</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, that's when we bring in the mountain gorillas.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What do the goats eat once they 've finished the kudzu ? Well , that 's when we bring in the mountain gorillas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What do the goats eat once they've finished the kudzu?Well, that's when we bring in the mountain gorillas.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948492</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948492</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>Rogerborg</author>
	<datestamp>1257156780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What do the goats eat once they've finished the kudzu?

</p><p>Ask Africa.  They eat <em>everything</em>.  Then you get desert.  Then come the <em>sandworms</em>.  Nice, you've doomed us all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What do the goats eat once they 've finished the kudzu ?
Ask Africa .
They eat everything .
Then you get desert .
Then come the sandworms .
Nice , you 've doomed us all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What do the goats eat once they've finished the kudzu?
Ask Africa.
They eat everything.
Then you get desert.
Then come the sandworms.
Nice, you've doomed us all.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948312</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948338</id>
	<title>Availability</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257153780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ignoring naysayers for now, and assuming this plant is the benefit the article claims: What about me?<br>Does Toyota plan to release these plants for sale at my local garden store?<br>Can I get a nice slow-growing lawn that I don't have to mow?<br>Can I get some extra-cold flower gardens?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ignoring naysayers for now , and assuming this plant is the benefit the article claims : What about me ? Does Toyota plan to release these plants for sale at my local garden store ? Can I get a nice slow-growing lawn that I do n't have to mow ? Can I get some extra-cold flower gardens ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ignoring naysayers for now, and assuming this plant is the benefit the article claims: What about me?Does Toyota plan to release these plants for sale at my local garden store?Can I get a nice slow-growing lawn that I don't have to mow?Can I get some extra-cold flower gardens?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29950570</id>
	<title>Re:If they want to reduce pollution</title>
	<author>afidel</author>
	<datestamp>1257179460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because then people would buy more cars from their former competitors who are not so focused on sustainability?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because then people would buy more cars from their former competitors who are not so focused on sustainability ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because then people would buy more cars from their former competitors who are not so focused on sustainability?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948268</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948858</id>
	<title>Re:Bad reporting</title>
	<author>hallucinogen</author>
	<datestamp>1257164040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually there are no plants at all that can fix nitrogen by themselves. If the summary was even half right this would be THE biggest news of the year.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually there are no plants at all that can fix nitrogen by themselves .
If the summary was even half right this would be THE biggest news of the year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually there are no plants at all that can fix nitrogen by themselves.
If the summary was even half right this would be THE biggest news of the year.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948142</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948104</id>
	<title>What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257193080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"while the gardenia's leaves create water vapour in the air, reducing the surface temperature of the factory surrounds and, therefore, reducing the energy needed for cooling"</i>
<br> <br>
Doesn't pretty much every plant with leaves do that? Hence the need for watering...</htmltext>
<tokenext>" while the gardenia 's leaves create water vapour in the air , reducing the surface temperature of the factory surrounds and , therefore , reducing the energy needed for cooling " Does n't pretty much every plant with leaves do that ?
Hence the need for watering.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"while the gardenia's leaves create water vapour in the air, reducing the surface temperature of the factory surrounds and, therefore, reducing the energy needed for cooling"
 
Doesn't pretty much every plant with leaves do that?
Hence the need for watering...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948094</id>
	<title>Plants eventually die</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257192900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's great but it may be a surprise to some people to learn that cherry sages do eventually die, and decompose and thus re-release that which they have absorbed.</p><p>Carbon offset, one of the greatest scams in history. Pay us to plant some trees, which we can later cut down and sell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's great but it may be a surprise to some people to learn that cherry sages do eventually die , and decompose and thus re-release that which they have absorbed.Carbon offset , one of the greatest scams in history .
Pay us to plant some trees , which we can later cut down and sell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's great but it may be a surprise to some people to learn that cherry sages do eventually die, and decompose and thus re-release that which they have absorbed.Carbon offset, one of the greatest scams in history.
Pay us to plant some trees, which we can later cut down and sell.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29956046</id>
	<title>Re:Perfect Timing!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257161100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ohh sorry, I have both the copyright and patent on both the business method and Engineering.  You can use it for a royalty though.  I got my patent last year.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ohh sorry , I have both the copyright and patent on both the business method and Engineering .
You can use it for a royalty though .
I got my patent last year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ohh sorry, I have both the copyright and patent on both the business method and Engineering.
You can use it for a royalty though.
I got my patent last year.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948462</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948118</id>
	<title>Flowers for plants...</title>
	<author>wfWebber</author>
	<datestamp>1257193320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Almost sounds like pets, doesn't it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Almost sounds like pets , does n't it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Almost sounds like pets, doesn't it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29951462</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing can go wrong here!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257183420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; What do the goats eat once they've finished the kudzu?</p><p>&gt; Ask Africa. They eat everything. Then you get desert.</p><p>You mean after finishing Kudzu, <i>they</i> get dessert?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; What do the goats eat once they 've finished the kudzu ? &gt; Ask Africa .
They eat everything .
Then you get desert.You mean after finishing Kudzu , they get dessert ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; What do the goats eat once they've finished the kudzu?&gt; Ask Africa.
They eat everything.
Then you get desert.You mean after finishing Kudzu, they get dessert?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29948492</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29952952</id>
	<title>Re:Shameless drivel</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257190620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>"Create a new species"? Even highly educated plant breeders haven't been able to do that,</i></p><p>You are joking, right? Remember, Google is your friend. Might I suggest 'artificial selection plants' as a suitable starting point?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Create a new species " ?
Even highly educated plant breeders have n't been able to do that,You are joking , right ?
Remember , Google is your friend .
Might I suggest 'artificial selection plants ' as a suitable starting point ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Create a new species"?
Even highly educated plant breeders haven't been able to do that,You are joking, right?
Remember, Google is your friend.
Might I suggest 'artificial selection plants' as a suitable starting point?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29949070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_02_0219214.29950802</id>
	<title>Where is the eco-fear/terror response?</title>
	<author>Wyatt Earp</author>
	<datestamp>1257180540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This sort of thing is generally attacked by the eco movements, so I wonder what their reply will be?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This sort of thing is generally attacked by the eco movements , so I wonder what their reply will be ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This sort of thing is generally attacked by the eco movements, so I wonder what their reply will be?</sentencetext>
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