<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_29_128205</id>
	<title>Ubuntu 9.10 Officially Released</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1256822820000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.classhelper.org/" rel="nofollow">palegray.net</a> writes <i>"The latest version of <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download">Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala)</a> has been released. Offering <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910overview#New\%20features\%20since\%20Ubuntu\%209.04">numerous enhancements</a> for both desktop and server environments, this release includes notable features like Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud images, the <a href="https://one.ubuntu.com/">Ubuntu One</a> 'personal cloud,' and Linux kernel version 2.6.31. Please be sure to use a <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/mirror">release mirror</a> close to your geographic location to help reduce the stress on Ubuntu's primary servers; using BitTorrent for downloads can help alleviate the load even more. If your organization has adequate network and server resources, please consider hosting a mirror as well."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>palegray.net writes " The latest version of Ubuntu 9.10 ( Karmic Koala ) has been released .
Offering numerous enhancements for both desktop and server environments , this release includes notable features like Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud images , the Ubuntu One 'personal cloud, ' and Linux kernel version 2.6.31 .
Please be sure to use a release mirror close to your geographic location to help reduce the stress on Ubuntu 's primary servers ; using BitTorrent for downloads can help alleviate the load even more .
If your organization has adequate network and server resources , please consider hosting a mirror as well .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>palegray.net writes "The latest version of Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) has been released.
Offering numerous enhancements for both desktop and server environments, this release includes notable features like Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud images, the Ubuntu One 'personal cloud,' and Linux kernel version 2.6.31.
Please be sure to use a release mirror close to your geographic location to help reduce the stress on Ubuntu's primary servers; using BitTorrent for downloads can help alleviate the load even more.
If your organization has adequate network and server resources, please consider hosting a mirror as well.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909813</id>
	<title>Re:VM images?</title>
	<author>spidercoz</author>
	<datestamp>1256829180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I used to use vmware player, config is shit. Switch to virtualbox and build your own image, much more fun.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to use vmware player , config is shit .
Switch to virtualbox and build your own image , much more fun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to use vmware player, config is shit.
Switch to virtualbox and build your own image, much more fun.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909275</id>
	<title>no it wasnt..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256826660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>no it wasnt..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>no it wasnt. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no it wasnt..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912979</id>
	<title>Re:Obligitory Culture Club</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256840700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>c'mon man, that's just gay.  We don't do gay here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>c'mon man , that 's just gay .
We do n't do gay here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>c'mon man, that's just gay.
We don't do gay here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909535</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910581</id>
	<title>ATI Xorg 9.10 drivers</title>
	<author>slack\_justyb</author>
	<datestamp>1256832120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>For those looking to get Ubuntu 9.10 on a ATI grfx card with a R600/700 chipset, you may want to take a look at the latest drivers from <a href="http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon\_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&amp;product=2.4.1.3.5&amp;lang=English" title="amd.com">AMD.</a> [amd.com]  As opposed to the usual Envyng or Ubuntu provided drivers.  There are a few people who are having a bit of weirdness with the ones shipped there (nothing big just a bit of oddities).<br>
I'm still looking forward to the advancement of the experimental support that X.org has added to the new Xserver (1.7 me thinks) for R600/700 chipsets, go open source drivers FTW!</htmltext>
<tokenext>For those looking to get Ubuntu 9.10 on a ATI grfx card with a R600/700 chipset , you may want to take a look at the latest drivers from AMD .
[ amd.com ] As opposed to the usual Envyng or Ubuntu provided drivers .
There are a few people who are having a bit of weirdness with the ones shipped there ( nothing big just a bit of oddities ) .
I 'm still looking forward to the advancement of the experimental support that X.org has added to the new Xserver ( 1.7 me thinks ) for R600/700 chipsets , go open source drivers FTW !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For those looking to get Ubuntu 9.10 on a ATI grfx card with a R600/700 chipset, you may want to take a look at the latest drivers from AMD.
[amd.com]  As opposed to the usual Envyng or Ubuntu provided drivers.
There are a few people who are having a bit of weirdness with the ones shipped there (nothing big just a bit of oddities).
I'm still looking forward to the advancement of the experimental support that X.org has added to the new Xserver (1.7 me thinks) for R600/700 chipsets, go open source drivers FTW!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912303</id>
	<title>EEEPC Fixes?</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1256838240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So is the video fixed for the EEEPC so the menu isn't so painfully slow?  ( its the video driver, don't remember which chipset )</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So is the video fixed for the EEEPC so the menu is n't so painfully slow ?
( its the video driver , do n't remember which chipset )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So is the video fixed for the EEEPC so the menu isn't so painfully slow?
( its the video driver, don't remember which chipset )</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912133</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256837760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you are using the 64Bit edition, then you should use this flash version:</p><p>http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html</p><p>It is alpha alright, but trust me, it works WAYYYYYYYYYYY better than the version available in the main download page</p><p>PS: plugin goes to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you are using the 64Bit edition , then you should use this flash version : http : //labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.htmlIt is alpha alright , but trust me , it works WAYYYYYYYYYYY better than the version available in the main download pagePS : plugin goes to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you are using the 64Bit edition, then you should use this flash version:http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.htmlIt is alpha alright, but trust me, it works WAYYYYYYYYYYY better than the version available in the main download pagePS: plugin goes to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910161</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911915</id>
	<title>Re:How to get Ubuntu 9?</title>
	<author>swillden</author>
	<datestamp>1256837040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I think you'll be better off with a complete reinstall. Especially if you have<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/home on a separate partition.</p></div><p>Nice opinion.  Got any reasoning to back it up?

</p><p>My home file server was originally installed in 1998.  For 11 years I've been upgrading it, never a problem.  At this point there's nothing left of the original hardware or the original software, but it's the same installation.  My laptop was installed in 2001.  That was three machines ago, but I just copy the disk image from one to the next, and keep on apt-get upgrading.  Those are both Debian systems, of course, Ubuntu doesn't go back that far.  My desktop machine was originally installed with Ubuntu 7.04.  It's now on 9.04 and will be upgraded to 9.10 soon.

</p><p>There's no reason whatsoever to reinstall.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you 'll be better off with a complete reinstall .
Especially if you have /home on a separate partition.Nice opinion .
Got any reasoning to back it up ?
My home file server was originally installed in 1998 .
For 11 years I 've been upgrading it , never a problem .
At this point there 's nothing left of the original hardware or the original software , but it 's the same installation .
My laptop was installed in 2001 .
That was three machines ago , but I just copy the disk image from one to the next , and keep on apt-get upgrading .
Those are both Debian systems , of course , Ubuntu does n't go back that far .
My desktop machine was originally installed with Ubuntu 7.04 .
It 's now on 9.04 and will be upgraded to 9.10 soon .
There 's no reason whatsoever to reinstall .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you'll be better off with a complete reinstall.
Especially if you have /home on a separate partition.Nice opinion.
Got any reasoning to back it up?
My home file server was originally installed in 1998.
For 11 years I've been upgrading it, never a problem.
At this point there's nothing left of the original hardware or the original software, but it's the same installation.
My laptop was installed in 2001.
That was three machines ago, but I just copy the disk image from one to the next, and keep on apt-get upgrading.
Those are both Debian systems, of course, Ubuntu doesn't go back that far.
My desktop machine was originally installed with Ubuntu 7.04.
It's now on 9.04 and will be upgraded to 9.10 soon.
There's no reason whatsoever to reinstall.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909301</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910071</id>
	<title>Samba?</title>
	<author>CopaceticOpus</author>
	<datestamp>1256830260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't understand why the Ubuntu team has never simplified the setup process for Samba. It is simple enough to share a folder with unlimited access, but as soon as you want to create users and passwords, it becomes rather complex. I've had to set it up a couple of times, and I never seem to get it to work quite right.</p><p>Many Ubuntu users are also going to be running a Windows machine on their local network. If the goal is to give them a positive experience with Linux, then setting up the connections on the local network should be brain-dead easy. Imagine sending a novice user to <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba" title="ubuntu.com">this page</a> [ubuntu.com]! They would soon be throwing away their Ubuntu disk and installing Windows.</p><p>Making an easy GUI for this configuration process shouldn't be that difficult. I hope that it will be addressed sometime soon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand why the Ubuntu team has never simplified the setup process for Samba .
It is simple enough to share a folder with unlimited access , but as soon as you want to create users and passwords , it becomes rather complex .
I 've had to set it up a couple of times , and I never seem to get it to work quite right.Many Ubuntu users are also going to be running a Windows machine on their local network .
If the goal is to give them a positive experience with Linux , then setting up the connections on the local network should be brain-dead easy .
Imagine sending a novice user to this page [ ubuntu.com ] !
They would soon be throwing away their Ubuntu disk and installing Windows.Making an easy GUI for this configuration process should n't be that difficult .
I hope that it will be addressed sometime soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand why the Ubuntu team has never simplified the setup process for Samba.
It is simple enough to share a folder with unlimited access, but as soon as you want to create users and passwords, it becomes rather complex.
I've had to set it up a couple of times, and I never seem to get it to work quite right.Many Ubuntu users are also going to be running a Windows machine on their local network.
If the goal is to give them a positive experience with Linux, then setting up the connections on the local network should be brain-dead easy.
Imagine sending a novice user to this page [ubuntu.com]!
They would soon be throwing away their Ubuntu disk and installing Windows.Making an easy GUI for this configuration process shouldn't be that difficult.
I hope that it will be addressed sometime soon.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912999</id>
	<title>Kubuntu... I'm upgrading right now!</title>
	<author>gosand</author>
	<datestamp>1256840760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I checked for updates this morning, it asked if I wanted to upgrade to the newest version.  I did.  In the last 10 years, this will be first time I will (hopefully) have a successful upgrade.  In the past, all the way back to RedHat 5.something upgrades have killed me and I've had to do a fresh install.  I was always running 2 monitors, and that seemed to be a never-ending battle re-configuring X.  I've gone from RedHat to SuSE to Mandrake to Kubuntu.</p><p>Having said that, I recently built a new computer with Intel quad-core and ditched the 2 monitors in favor of a big flat screen... so I did a fresh install of 9.04 64-bit Kubuntu.  I've been loving it!  There have been a few things I didn't care for, but even KDE4 is OK, and Compiz is great.</p><p>Still crossing my fingers.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I checked for updates this morning , it asked if I wanted to upgrade to the newest version .
I did .
In the last 10 years , this will be first time I will ( hopefully ) have a successful upgrade .
In the past , all the way back to RedHat 5.something upgrades have killed me and I 've had to do a fresh install .
I was always running 2 monitors , and that seemed to be a never-ending battle re-configuring X. I 've gone from RedHat to SuSE to Mandrake to Kubuntu.Having said that , I recently built a new computer with Intel quad-core and ditched the 2 monitors in favor of a big flat screen... so I did a fresh install of 9.04 64-bit Kubuntu .
I 've been loving it !
There have been a few things I did n't care for , but even KDE4 is OK , and Compiz is great.Still crossing my fingers .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I checked for updates this morning, it asked if I wanted to upgrade to the newest version.
I did.
In the last 10 years, this will be first time I will (hopefully) have a successful upgrade.
In the past, all the way back to RedHat 5.something upgrades have killed me and I've had to do a fresh install.
I was always running 2 monitors, and that seemed to be a never-ending battle re-configuring X.  I've gone from RedHat to SuSE to Mandrake to Kubuntu.Having said that, I recently built a new computer with Intel quad-core and ditched the 2 monitors in favor of a big flat screen... so I did a fresh install of 9.04 64-bit Kubuntu.
I've been loving it!
There have been a few things I didn't care for, but even KDE4 is OK, and Compiz is great.Still crossing my fingers.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29931637</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256917620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I can barely run xubuntu on a machine with 256megs or ram let alone full ubuntu.</p><p>&gt;The era of Netbooks is upon us, and it looks like Microsoft will miss the bus.</p><p>Considering netbooks are shipping with 7 and ram costs less than shipping, I'll take the 2gig model, thanks.  More ram for my apps.</p></div><p>I had a laptop (600MHZ PIII w/ 512MB of RAM) that ran Ubuntu fine, but I agree - many apps today require more ram.  The point I think is that the OS should always need the SAME amount of RAM.  I originally had XP on the laptop I mentioned and when I put XP back on it, it runs fine until it Downloads all the updates...  I think M$ makes windows slower on purpose to make us buy new computers.  The point is an OS should be stable, fast, and it should leave the RAM available for the applications...  not gobble it all up.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can barely run xubuntu on a machine with 256megs or ram let alone full ubuntu. &gt; The era of Netbooks is upon us , and it looks like Microsoft will miss the bus.Considering netbooks are shipping with 7 and ram costs less than shipping , I 'll take the 2gig model , thanks .
More ram for my apps.I had a laptop ( 600MHZ PIII w/ 512MB of RAM ) that ran Ubuntu fine , but I agree - many apps today require more ram .
The point I think is that the OS should always need the SAME amount of RAM .
I originally had XP on the laptop I mentioned and when I put XP back on it , it runs fine until it Downloads all the updates... I think M $ makes windows slower on purpose to make us buy new computers .
The point is an OS should be stable , fast , and it should leave the RAM available for the applications... not gobble it all up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can barely run xubuntu on a machine with 256megs or ram let alone full ubuntu.&gt;The era of Netbooks is upon us, and it looks like Microsoft will miss the bus.Considering netbooks are shipping with 7 and ram costs less than shipping, I'll take the 2gig model, thanks.
More ram for my apps.I had a laptop (600MHZ PIII w/ 512MB of RAM) that ran Ubuntu fine, but I agree - many apps today require more ram.
The point I think is that the OS should always need the SAME amount of RAM.
I originally had XP on the laptop I mentioned and when I put XP back on it, it runs fine until it Downloads all the updates...  I think M$ makes windows slower on purpose to make us buy new computers.
The point is an OS should be stable, fast, and it should leave the RAM available for the applications...  not gobble it all up.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909527</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909431</id>
	<title>Not true...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256827440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>All of the reviews of Windows 7 on NetBooks that I have seen so far have been positive about how well it performs on them. Microsoft actually targeted them because it knows it can't afford to make an OS which runs poorly on them or not at all.</htmltext>
<tokenext>All of the reviews of Windows 7 on NetBooks that I have seen so far have been positive about how well it performs on them .
Microsoft actually targeted them because it knows it ca n't afford to make an OS which runs poorly on them or not at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All of the reviews of Windows 7 on NetBooks that I have seen so far have been positive about how well it performs on them.
Microsoft actually targeted them because it knows it can't afford to make an OS which runs poorly on them or not at all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910523</id>
	<title>Re: Yes</title>
	<author>colinnwn</author>
	<datestamp>1256831880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I did this with Jaunty, but I already had another computer running Jaunty. I used the USB boot disk creator in Jaunty and when it asked what image I wanted to burn, I selected the Ubuntu9.04.iso to install on another computer. Worked a treat.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I did this with Jaunty , but I already had another computer running Jaunty .
I used the USB boot disk creator in Jaunty and when it asked what image I wanted to burn , I selected the Ubuntu9.04.iso to install on another computer .
Worked a treat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did this with Jaunty, but I already had another computer running Jaunty.
I used the USB boot disk creator in Jaunty and when it asked what image I wanted to burn, I selected the Ubuntu9.04.iso to install on another computer.
Worked a treat.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911313</id>
	<title>Awesome screenshots!</title>
	<author>Tolkien</author>
	<datestamp>1256834880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">Check out the screenshots of the new Ubuntu Software Centre!</a> [ubuntu.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Check out the screenshots of the new Ubuntu Software Centre !
[ ubuntu.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check out the screenshots of the new Ubuntu Software Centre!
[ubuntu.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913715</id>
	<title>Re:Personal Cloud...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256843760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It only uses Canonical's servers, not other users' hard drives.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It only uses Canonical 's servers , not other users ' hard drives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It only uses Canonical's servers, not other users' hard drives.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909733</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256828760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you tried swapping xfce for lxde?</p><p>I makes one hell of a difference on my old transmeta based tablet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you tried swapping xfce for lxde ? I makes one hell of a difference on my old transmeta based tablet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you tried swapping xfce for lxde?I makes one hell of a difference on my old transmeta based tablet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909641</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime T</title>
	<author>moonbender</author>
	<datestamp>1256828460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So don't use the stuff you don't like. Not sure if you can still use grub1 on a new install, but certainly nobody is forcing you to use ext4. As a second measuring stick, the upcoming Fedora 12 doesn't include grub2, either (it's targeted for F13). I upgraded and kept grub1 as well as my ext3 partitions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So do n't use the stuff you do n't like .
Not sure if you can still use grub1 on a new install , but certainly nobody is forcing you to use ext4 .
As a second measuring stick , the upcoming Fedora 12 does n't include grub2 , either ( it 's targeted for F13 ) .
I upgraded and kept grub1 as well as my ext3 partitions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So don't use the stuff you don't like.
Not sure if you can still use grub1 on a new install, but certainly nobody is forcing you to use ext4.
As a second measuring stick, the upcoming Fedora 12 doesn't include grub2, either (it's targeted for F13).
I upgraded and kept grub1 as well as my ext3 partitions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29925401</id>
	<title>You think? What about you know?</title>
	<author>jotaeleemeese</author>
	<datestamp>1256923860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do know, and have updated a good amount of machines without any major issues (last time with no issues at all).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do know , and have updated a good amount of machines without any major issues ( last time with no issues at all ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do know, and have updated a good amount of machines without any major issues (last time with no issues at all).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912093</id>
	<title>Re:Torrentz PLZ?</title>
	<author>Pvt\_Ryan</author>
	<datestamp>1256837640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because torrents are bad, The RIAA say so
<br>If you have a torrent you are obviously sharing ubuntu illegally, destroying canonical's profits (after all noone would willingly give software away for free) and hurting developers<br> <br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>/sarcasm</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because torrents are bad , The RIAA say so If you have a torrent you are obviously sharing ubuntu illegally , destroying canonical 's profits ( after all noone would willingly give software away for free ) and hurting developers /sarcasm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because torrents are bad, The RIAA say so
If you have a torrent you are obviously sharing ubuntu illegally, destroying canonical's profits (after all noone would willingly give software away for free) and hurting developers  /sarcasm</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910411</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910761</id>
	<title>Re:USB install</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256832780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>yup... download the iso, and download unetbootin. use unetbootin to install the setup files on the usb drive. from there, all you have to do is boot that drive and you're in!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yup... download the iso , and download unetbootin .
use unetbootin to install the setup files on the usb drive .
from there , all you have to do is boot that drive and you 're in !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yup... download the iso, and download unetbootin.
use unetbootin to install the setup files on the usb drive.
from there, all you have to do is boot that drive and you're in!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910011</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913023</id>
	<title>Serious Question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256840880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is Pulse Audio fixed/implemented properly yet?<br>
I've been holding out with my properly configured 8.10 system and seeing that no upgrade since 5 has ever worked properly (always ended up doing reinstall) the only thing I really want is proper working Pulse Audio and I don't want to install a system with a crappy default audio setup that I have to spend forever fixing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is Pulse Audio fixed/implemented properly yet ?
I 've been holding out with my properly configured 8.10 system and seeing that no upgrade since 5 has ever worked properly ( always ended up doing reinstall ) the only thing I really want is proper working Pulse Audio and I do n't want to install a system with a crappy default audio setup that I have to spend forever fixing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is Pulse Audio fixed/implemented properly yet?
I've been holding out with my properly configured 8.10 system and seeing that no upgrade since 5 has ever worked properly (always ended up doing reinstall) the only thing I really want is proper working Pulse Audio and I don't want to install a system with a crappy default audio setup that I have to spend forever fixing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29920099</id>
	<title>Re:Obligitory Culture Club</title>
	<author>Samah</author>
	<datestamp>1256831700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Karmic Karmic Karmic Karmic Karmic Koala
Download and install
Download and innnnnstaaaalllllll....</p></div><p>I hate you.  I now have that stuck in my head... ARGH!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Karmic Karmic Karmic Karmic Karmic Koala Download and install Download and innnnnstaaaalllllll....I hate you .
I now have that stuck in my head... ARGH !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Karmic Karmic Karmic Karmic Karmic Koala
Download and install
Download and innnnnstaaaalllllll....I hate you.
I now have that stuck in my head... ARGH!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909535</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909981</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime T</title>
	<author>Slammer64</author>
	<datestamp>1256829900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you want a better yardstick for bleeding edge linux, try Archlinux, grub2 has been there quite awhile.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want a better yardstick for bleeding edge linux , try Archlinux , grub2 has been there quite awhile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want a better yardstick for bleeding edge linux, try Archlinux, grub2 has been there quite awhile.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909469</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29919675</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu One: Secret Plans?</title>
	<author>TennCasey</author>
	<datestamp>1256828160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because <a href="http://linux.slashdot.org/story/08/10/30/143232/Shuttleworth-Says-Canonical-Is-Not-Cash-Flow-Positive?art\_pos=21" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">they haven't been making money</a> [slashdot.org].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because they have n't been making money [ slashdot.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because they haven't been making money [slashdot.org].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910179</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910557</id>
	<title>The problem is config files.</title>
	<author>zippthorne</author>
	<datestamp>1256832000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And not just system config files, but user config too.</p><p>If it was just a matter of '# genisofs -o<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/dev/dvd ~ ', reinstalling, and then copying back in, then it would be a snap.  But there are config files even in the user directories that may not be compatible with newer versions of programs, or have options specified that are no longer optimal.</p><p>This is a problem with upgrading <em>any</em> OS, and I wish that more thought was put into properly translating configurations between versions.  There needs to be some kind of semi-automated way of reconciling *all* config files.  Ideally transparently for things the user doesn't want do deal with, and with a walk-through for settings the user might want to fiddle with if the menu system has changed.  I'm sure that's quite a difficult problem to solve, though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And not just system config files , but user config too.If it was just a matter of ' # genisofs -o /dev/dvd ~ ' , reinstalling , and then copying back in , then it would be a snap .
But there are config files even in the user directories that may not be compatible with newer versions of programs , or have options specified that are no longer optimal.This is a problem with upgrading any OS , and I wish that more thought was put into properly translating configurations between versions .
There needs to be some kind of semi-automated way of reconciling * all * config files .
Ideally transparently for things the user does n't want do deal with , and with a walk-through for settings the user might want to fiddle with if the menu system has changed .
I 'm sure that 's quite a difficult problem to solve , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And not just system config files, but user config too.If it was just a matter of '# genisofs -o /dev/dvd ~ ', reinstalling, and then copying back in, then it would be a snap.
But there are config files even in the user directories that may not be compatible with newer versions of programs, or have options specified that are no longer optimal.This is a problem with upgrading any OS, and I wish that more thought was put into properly translating configurations between versions.
There needs to be some kind of semi-automated way of reconciling *all* config files.
Ideally transparently for things the user doesn't want do deal with, and with a walk-through for settings the user might want to fiddle with if the menu system has changed.
I'm sure that's quite a difficult problem to solve, though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909389</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910773</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime T</title>
	<author>Andy Dodd</author>
	<datestamp>1256832840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Gentoo has been falling behind lately.</p><p>They didn't remove the unstable mask from Firefox 3 until Mozilla basically said, "We are no longer supporting 2.x in any way" and Mozilla had released 3.5.</p><p>KDE 3.5 is still the "Stable" release in Gentoo, despite the KDE team EOLing 3.5 a while ago.  Yeah, 4.0 and 4.1 sucked, but 4.2 was quite good and 4.3 fixed nearly all remaining issues.  Ubuntu has been successfully using KDE 4.x releases in Kubuntu since 8.10 (or maybe even 8.04 I think?)</p><p>This is why all of my new systems are getting Ubuntu installed instead of Gentoo - It's simply too much time and effort to try and get a stable Gentoo system with even remotely up-to-date packages.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Gentoo has been falling behind lately.They did n't remove the unstable mask from Firefox 3 until Mozilla basically said , " We are no longer supporting 2.x in any way " and Mozilla had released 3.5.KDE 3.5 is still the " Stable " release in Gentoo , despite the KDE team EOLing 3.5 a while ago .
Yeah , 4.0 and 4.1 sucked , but 4.2 was quite good and 4.3 fixed nearly all remaining issues .
Ubuntu has been successfully using KDE 4.x releases in Kubuntu since 8.10 ( or maybe even 8.04 I think ?
) This is why all of my new systems are getting Ubuntu installed instead of Gentoo - It 's simply too much time and effort to try and get a stable Gentoo system with even remotely up-to-date packages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gentoo has been falling behind lately.They didn't remove the unstable mask from Firefox 3 until Mozilla basically said, "We are no longer supporting 2.x in any way" and Mozilla had released 3.5.KDE 3.5 is still the "Stable" release in Gentoo, despite the KDE team EOLing 3.5 a while ago.
Yeah, 4.0 and 4.1 sucked, but 4.2 was quite good and 4.3 fixed nearly all remaining issues.
Ubuntu has been successfully using KDE 4.x releases in Kubuntu since 8.10 (or maybe even 8.04 I think?
)This is why all of my new systems are getting Ubuntu installed instead of Gentoo - It's simply too much time and effort to try and get a stable Gentoo system with even remotely up-to-date packages.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909469</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29914641</id>
	<title>Re:BitTorrent links</title>
	<author>unifyingtheory</author>
	<datestamp>1256847420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I plan to seed for a while.  I won't be installing it myself for a couple months to allow time for most of the bugs to be patched.<br> <br> Call me old-fashioned but I like a stable operating system.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I plan to seed for a while .
I wo n't be installing it myself for a couple months to allow time for most of the bugs to be patched .
Call me old-fashioned but I like a stable operating system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I plan to seed for a while.
I won't be installing it myself for a couple months to allow time for most of the bugs to be patched.
Call me old-fashioned but I like a stable operating system.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910449</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911613</id>
	<title>Re:Before Installing, note:</title>
	<author>ACS Solver</author>
	<datestamp>1256835900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is a serious WTF. I understand their predisposition towards fixed release cycles, but we're talking about possible data loss here. Just about every standard I know considers bugs that cause data loss/corruption to be of critical severity, meaning that you don't ship with it. Files that are &gt;512MB in size aren't even that rare today. They say writing to such files is suspected to result in data corruption, and I do not find it likely that the devs believe this to be anything less than a critical bug.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a serious WTF .
I understand their predisposition towards fixed release cycles , but we 're talking about possible data loss here .
Just about every standard I know considers bugs that cause data loss/corruption to be of critical severity , meaning that you do n't ship with it .
Files that are &gt; 512MB in size are n't even that rare today .
They say writing to such files is suspected to result in data corruption , and I do not find it likely that the devs believe this to be anything less than a critical bug .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a serious WTF.
I understand their predisposition towards fixed release cycles, but we're talking about possible data loss here.
Just about every standard I know considers bugs that cause data loss/corruption to be of critical severity, meaning that you don't ship with it.
Files that are &gt;512MB in size aren't even that rare today.
They say writing to such files is suspected to result in data corruption, and I do not find it likely that the devs believe this to be anything less than a critical bug.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909901</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29921115</id>
	<title>Wordpress users do not upgrade</title>
	<author>Fishy\_Fishy\_Fish</author>
	<datestamp>1256845140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They still don't seem to have fixed the PHP5 zlib bug that stops Wordpress auto-upgrade from working:
<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/451405" title="launchpad.net" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/451405</a> [launchpad.net]

<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/439407" title="launchpad.net" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/439407</a> [launchpad.net]</htmltext>
<tokenext>They still do n't seem to have fixed the PHP5 zlib bug that stops Wordpress auto-upgrade from working : https : //bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ + source/php5/ + bug/451405 [ launchpad.net ] https : //bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ + source/php5/ + bug/439407 [ launchpad.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They still don't seem to have fixed the PHP5 zlib bug that stops Wordpress auto-upgrade from working:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/451405 [launchpad.net]

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/439407 [launchpad.net]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29921759</id>
	<title>Re:Very positive experience so far</title>
	<author>Frostmint</author>
	<datestamp>1256899980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What did you do to make your mic work?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What did you do to make your mic work ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What did you do to make your mic work?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911261</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909991</id>
	<title>Mod parent down</title>
	<author>orzetto</author>
	<datestamp>1256829960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... and kick whoever modded this troll up. Flash on Ubuntu has been available since ages.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... and kick whoever modded this troll up .
Flash on Ubuntu has been available since ages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... and kick whoever modded this troll up.
Flash on Ubuntu has been available since ages.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909749</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913287</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256842020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package which will make pretty much all audio and video to work. Flash, Java, mp3, dvd, etc...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package which will make pretty much all audio and video to work .
Flash , Java , mp3 , dvd , etc.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package which will make pretty much all audio and video to work.
Flash, Java, mp3, dvd, etc...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909947</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909673</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime T</title>
	<author>BorgHunter</author>
	<datestamp>1256828580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been using Kubuntu Karmic since the beta, and it's been working fine for me. I've had precisely two problems: Slightly flaky sound (fixed by installing PulseAudio and using that as the default over whatever KDE defaults to), and the kernel bitching a bunch at me about having ECC disabled in BIOS (fixed by blacklisting the ECC modules in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf).
<br> <br>
ext4 is fully mature--it's no more "bleeding edge" than the 2.6.28 kernel used in 9.04--but you can choose ext3 if you want, and if you're upgrading it won't in-place upgrade you to ext4. Grub2 was an interesting choice, though if you're updating from an older Ubuntu version, again it won't upgrade that for you. Grub2 works fine for me; it's just a bunch slower than legacy GRUB.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using Kubuntu Karmic since the beta , and it 's been working fine for me .
I 've had precisely two problems : Slightly flaky sound ( fixed by installing PulseAudio and using that as the default over whatever KDE defaults to ) , and the kernel bitching a bunch at me about having ECC disabled in BIOS ( fixed by blacklisting the ECC modules in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ) .
ext4 is fully mature--it 's no more " bleeding edge " than the 2.6.28 kernel used in 9.04--but you can choose ext3 if you want , and if you 're upgrading it wo n't in-place upgrade you to ext4 .
Grub2 was an interesting choice , though if you 're updating from an older Ubuntu version , again it wo n't upgrade that for you .
Grub2 works fine for me ; it 's just a bunch slower than legacy GRUB .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using Kubuntu Karmic since the beta, and it's been working fine for me.
I've had precisely two problems: Slightly flaky sound (fixed by installing PulseAudio and using that as the default over whatever KDE defaults to), and the kernel bitching a bunch at me about having ECC disabled in BIOS (fixed by blacklisting the ECC modules in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf).
ext4 is fully mature--it's no more "bleeding edge" than the 2.6.28 kernel used in 9.04--but you can choose ext3 if you want, and if you're upgrading it won't in-place upgrade you to ext4.
Grub2 was an interesting choice, though if you're updating from an older Ubuntu version, again it won't upgrade that for you.
Grub2 works fine for me; it's just a bunch slower than legacy GRUB.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909469</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910291</id>
	<title>Torrent</title>
	<author>smbell</author>
	<datestamp>1256831100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And here is the torrent:

<a href="http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent</a> [ubuntu.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>And here is the torrent : http : //releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [ ubuntu.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And here is the torrent:

http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29925947</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>melf-san</author>
	<datestamp>1256926560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.smartqmid.com/phpBB3/index.php" title="smartqmid.com" rel="nofollow">Unofficial SmartQ users board.</a> [smartqmid.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unofficial SmartQ users board .
[ smartqmid.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unofficial SmartQ users board.
[smartqmid.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910395</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909327</id>
	<title>Too soon!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256826960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Ubuntu website still has 9.04 listed, and do-release-upgrade does not give me an option to upgrade just yet...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Ubuntu website still has 9.04 listed , and do-release-upgrade does not give me an option to upgrade just yet.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Ubuntu website still has 9.04 listed, and do-release-upgrade does not give me an option to upgrade just yet...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910069</id>
	<title>Multiple Desktops/TV hookup</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256830260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about some damn S-video out that works?!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about some damn S-video out that works ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about some damn S-video out that works?
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910737</id>
	<title>Re:USB install</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256832720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do a Google search for UNetBootin. It can create a bootable USB stick from an ISO. It works on Linux and Windows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do a Google search for UNetBootin .
It can create a bootable USB stick from an ISO .
It works on Linux and Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do a Google search for UNetBootin.
It can create a bootable USB stick from an ISO.
It works on Linux and Windows.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910011</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29932621</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu One: Secret Plans?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256932320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Anybody feel like letting me know what I missed?</p></div></blockquote><p>Gee, I don't know.<br>Could it be that they think there's money to be made?</p><p>You're effectively advocating monopolies. Gosh, we don't want a second company entering a market supplied by an incumbent.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anybody feel like letting me know what I missed ? Gee , I do n't know.Could it be that they think there 's money to be made ? You 're effectively advocating monopolies .
Gosh , we do n't want a second company entering a market supplied by an incumbent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anybody feel like letting me know what I missed?Gee, I don't know.Could it be that they think there's money to be made?You're effectively advocating monopolies.
Gosh, we don't want a second company entering a market supplied by an incumbent.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910313</id>
	<title>Re:flash?</title>
	<author>zwede</author>
	<datestamp>1256831160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Of course not. You have to install just like you have to on any other OS.

sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

Oh the pain is unbearable...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course not .
You have to install just like you have to on any other OS .
sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree Oh the pain is unbearable.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course not.
You have to install just like you have to on any other OS.
sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

Oh the pain is unbearable...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910043</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256830140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really? I've set up my parents with Xubuntu running on a Pentium II and 96 MB RAM. They get by ok...</p><p>Not sure what you're trying to run - Office inside Vista inside QEMU or something?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really ?
I 've set up my parents with Xubuntu running on a Pentium II and 96 MB RAM .
They get by ok...Not sure what you 're trying to run - Office inside Vista inside QEMU or something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really?
I've set up my parents with Xubuntu running on a Pentium II and 96 MB RAM.
They get by ok...Not sure what you're trying to run - Office inside Vista inside QEMU or something?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910179</id>
	<title>Ubuntu One: Secret Plans?</title>
	<author>Kurt Granroth</author>
	<datestamp>1256830680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to assume that there are some "secret" plans involving Ubuntu One that make a lot of sense (if you know them) and can actually explain why Ubuntu One exists in the first place.  I've read through all the public documentation and, for the life of me, I can't figure out what is even remotely unique or noteworthy about the service.</p><p>Right now, it's attempting to be a Dropbox clone.  However, it's not yet there and is clearly still in beta -- even though they have the same pricing structure as the (very mature) Dropbox.  Their goal for the file synchronization service is to be as full-featured as Dropbox?  But not more?  Seriously, if your goal is to be as good as Dropbox, then why not just use Dropbox?</p><p>It's not even that "Ubuntu One is OSS and Dropbox is proprietary".  Both services have OSS parts and proprietary parts.</p><p>Maybe, then, they are trying to be more of an online backup service, ala Mozy?  Well... no.  I can't find any evidence that they encrypt your data so it would be a bust as online backup.</p><p>So I don't get it.  Why would anybody use (much less pay for) it when there are much more robust services already out there AND there's no indication that it'll actually be better than those services in any way.  There must be some secret plans that I just don't know about.</p><p>Anybody feel like letting me know what I missed?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to assume that there are some " secret " plans involving Ubuntu One that make a lot of sense ( if you know them ) and can actually explain why Ubuntu One exists in the first place .
I 've read through all the public documentation and , for the life of me , I ca n't figure out what is even remotely unique or noteworthy about the service.Right now , it 's attempting to be a Dropbox clone .
However , it 's not yet there and is clearly still in beta -- even though they have the same pricing structure as the ( very mature ) Dropbox .
Their goal for the file synchronization service is to be as full-featured as Dropbox ?
But not more ?
Seriously , if your goal is to be as good as Dropbox , then why not just use Dropbox ? It 's not even that " Ubuntu One is OSS and Dropbox is proprietary " .
Both services have OSS parts and proprietary parts.Maybe , then , they are trying to be more of an online backup service , ala Mozy ?
Well... no .
I ca n't find any evidence that they encrypt your data so it would be a bust as online backup.So I do n't get it .
Why would anybody use ( much less pay for ) it when there are much more robust services already out there AND there 's no indication that it 'll actually be better than those services in any way .
There must be some secret plans that I just do n't know about.Anybody feel like letting me know what I missed ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to assume that there are some "secret" plans involving Ubuntu One that make a lot of sense (if you know them) and can actually explain why Ubuntu One exists in the first place.
I've read through all the public documentation and, for the life of me, I can't figure out what is even remotely unique or noteworthy about the service.Right now, it's attempting to be a Dropbox clone.
However, it's not yet there and is clearly still in beta -- even though they have the same pricing structure as the (very mature) Dropbox.
Their goal for the file synchronization service is to be as full-featured as Dropbox?
But not more?
Seriously, if your goal is to be as good as Dropbox, then why not just use Dropbox?It's not even that "Ubuntu One is OSS and Dropbox is proprietary".
Both services have OSS parts and proprietary parts.Maybe, then, they are trying to be more of an online backup service, ala Mozy?
Well... no.
I can't find any evidence that they encrypt your data so it would be a bust as online backup.So I don't get it.
Why would anybody use (much less pay for) it when there are much more robust services already out there AND there's no indication that it'll actually be better than those services in any way.
There must be some secret plans that I just don't know about.Anybody feel like letting me know what I missed?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29916815</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256812140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I can barely run xubuntu on a machine with 256megs or ram let alone full ubuntu.</p></div><p>Um, what? I was using xubuntu as a desktop on a 333mhz server with 64 mb of ram while waiting for my laptop to arrive this month. A little frustrating? sure. but it worked. Most of the problems i had were the web's fault and not xubuntu. 333 mhz just can't handle flash, java, and most modern codecs.</p><p>I'm thinking you expect too much. If you want a netbook that will do stuff more than basic web use(which doesn't include youtube or flash games<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:/) and word processing, then you don't want a netbook. You want an ultramobile laptop.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can barely run xubuntu on a machine with 256megs or ram let alone full ubuntu.Um , what ?
I was using xubuntu as a desktop on a 333mhz server with 64 mb of ram while waiting for my laptop to arrive this month .
A little frustrating ?
sure. but it worked .
Most of the problems i had were the web 's fault and not xubuntu .
333 mhz just ca n't handle flash , java , and most modern codecs.I 'm thinking you expect too much .
If you want a netbook that will do stuff more than basic web use ( which does n't include youtube or flash games : / ) and word processing , then you do n't want a netbook .
You want an ultramobile laptop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can barely run xubuntu on a machine with 256megs or ram let alone full ubuntu.Um, what?
I was using xubuntu as a desktop on a 333mhz server with 64 mb of ram while waiting for my laptop to arrive this month.
A little frustrating?
sure. but it worked.
Most of the problems i had were the web's fault and not xubuntu.
333 mhz just can't handle flash, java, and most modern codecs.I'm thinking you expect too much.
If you want a netbook that will do stuff more than basic web use(which doesn't include youtube or flash games :/) and word processing, then you don't want a netbook.
You want an ultramobile laptop.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911825</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1256836620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It might be fast, but</p><p><div class="quote"><p>It is especially designed for <strong>cloud</strong> computers with low hardware specifications, such as, netbooks, mobile devices (e.g. MIDs) or older computers. [...] It provides a fast desktop experience; <strong>connecting easily with applications in the cloud</strong>.</p></div><p>that completely disqualifies it.</p><p>How does one even "connect" to applications in a "cloud"? Wouldn't that be "Connecting easily to X clients on headless systems."?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It might be fast , butIt is especially designed for cloud computers with low hardware specifications , such as , netbooks , mobile devices ( e.g .
MIDs ) or older computers .
[ ... ] It provides a fast desktop experience ; connecting easily with applications in the cloud.that completely disqualifies it.How does one even " connect " to applications in a " cloud " ?
Would n't that be " Connecting easily to X clients on headless systems .
" ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It might be fast, butIt is especially designed for cloud computers with low hardware specifications, such as, netbooks, mobile devices (e.g.
MIDs) or older computers.
[...] It provides a fast desktop experience; connecting easily with applications in the cloud.that completely disqualifies it.How does one even "connect" to applications in a "cloud"?
Wouldn't that be "Connecting easily to X clients on headless systems.
"?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912075</id>
	<title>MS Office vs. OpenOffice</title>
	<author>jerryluc</author>
	<datestamp>1256837580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
Ubuntu finally explains the difference between the two:

"The big difference is that OpenOffice.org is free (and promises never to introduce Mr Clippy)"

<br>http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/910features</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubuntu finally explains the difference between the two : " The big difference is that OpenOffice.org is free ( and promises never to introduce Mr Clippy ) " http : //www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/910features</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Ubuntu finally explains the difference between the two:

"The big difference is that OpenOffice.org is free (and promises never to introduce Mr Clippy)"

http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/910features</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909817</id>
	<title>Re:How to get Ubuntu 9?</title>
	<author>knarf</author>
	<datestamp>1256829180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have never done a re-install of Debian or any Debian-derived distribution. The upgrade process is generally smooth and painless. My current main system (a Thinkpad T23) has seen all versions starting from Hoary (5.04) in succession without (the need for) a re-install or (possibly more important) the need for extensive manual intervention during upgrades. You get to answer the standard 'this configuration file has changed, what do you want to do' or 'these services need to be restarted' questions but that is about it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have never done a re-install of Debian or any Debian-derived distribution .
The upgrade process is generally smooth and painless .
My current main system ( a Thinkpad T23 ) has seen all versions starting from Hoary ( 5.04 ) in succession without ( the need for ) a re-install or ( possibly more important ) the need for extensive manual intervention during upgrades .
You get to answer the standard 'this configuration file has changed , what do you want to do ' or 'these services need to be restarted ' questions but that is about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have never done a re-install of Debian or any Debian-derived distribution.
The upgrade process is generally smooth and painless.
My current main system (a Thinkpad T23) has seen all versions starting from Hoary (5.04) in succession without (the need for) a re-install or (possibly more important) the need for extensive manual intervention during upgrades.
You get to answer the standard 'this configuration file has changed, what do you want to do' or 'these services need to be restarted' questions but that is about it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911811</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>leeosenton</author>
	<datestamp>1256836500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not really. I just received my shiny new Dell Mini with Dell/Ubuntu outdated Linux installed. I immediately loaded the latest Ubuntu and rediscovered how great things are in Linux land. Visit dellmini.com or ubuntumini.com and you will find I am far from alone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not really .
I just received my shiny new Dell Mini with Dell/Ubuntu outdated Linux installed .
I immediately loaded the latest Ubuntu and rediscovered how great things are in Linux land .
Visit dellmini.com or ubuntumini.com and you will find I am far from alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not really.
I just received my shiny new Dell Mini with Dell/Ubuntu outdated Linux installed.
I immediately loaded the latest Ubuntu and rediscovered how great things are in Linux land.
Visit dellmini.com or ubuntumini.com and you will find I am far from alone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910515</id>
	<title>It's still not ready for prime time</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256831820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obviously something called (or should that be kalled) Karmic Koala is no way robust enough for prime time. I'm waiting for the Boisterous Badger build.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obviously something called ( or should that be kalled ) Karmic Koala is no way robust enough for prime time .
I 'm waiting for the Boisterous Badger build .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obviously something called (or should that be kalled) Karmic Koala is no way robust enough for prime time.
I'm waiting for the Boisterous Badger build.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29914371</id>
	<title>Re:Canonical does something right for a change</title>
	<author>quippe</author>
	<datestamp>1256846280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Ubuntu still needs to change a lot (scrap Upstart/clone FreeBSD init, get rid of DKMS, ideally get rid of crapt-get and clone ports, revert to OSS for sound, get rid of the insane scenario where GNOME is irremovably fused with virtually the entire rest of the system) in order to become a system I'd consider installing, </p></div><p>...or you could install another distro which satisfies your needs, instead of asking to completely change the aim and view of ubuntu. Let diversity reign in FOSS</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubuntu still needs to change a lot ( scrap Upstart/clone FreeBSD init , get rid of DKMS , ideally get rid of crapt-get and clone ports , revert to OSS for sound , get rid of the insane scenario where GNOME is irremovably fused with virtually the entire rest of the system ) in order to become a system I 'd consider installing , ...or you could install another distro which satisfies your needs , instead of asking to completely change the aim and view of ubuntu .
Let diversity reign in FOSS</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ubuntu still needs to change a lot (scrap Upstart/clone FreeBSD init, get rid of DKMS, ideally get rid of crapt-get and clone ports, revert to OSS for sound, get rid of the insane scenario where GNOME is irremovably fused with virtually the entire rest of the system) in order to become a system I'd consider installing, ...or you could install another distro which satisfies your needs, instead of asking to completely change the aim and view of ubuntu.
Let diversity reign in FOSS
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913673</id>
	<title>Re:Samba?</title>
	<author>gbjbaanb</author>
	<datestamp>1256843580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't understand why the Ubuntu team has never simplified the setup process for Samba</p></div><p>If you're the Samba configuration expert (or even someone who has managed to get a setup that works like that), why not share some of your existing config files, with some description of what you did, with the Ubuntu team. Most of the time, the GUI is not the hard part - its the figuring out what to make the GUI do that is difficult. Providing your expertise removes a lot of that workload in one fell swoop.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand why the Ubuntu team has never simplified the setup process for SambaIf you 're the Samba configuration expert ( or even someone who has managed to get a setup that works like that ) , why not share some of your existing config files , with some description of what you did , with the Ubuntu team .
Most of the time , the GUI is not the hard part - its the figuring out what to make the GUI do that is difficult .
Providing your expertise removes a lot of that workload in one fell swoop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand why the Ubuntu team has never simplified the setup process for SambaIf you're the Samba configuration expert (or even someone who has managed to get a setup that works like that), why not share some of your existing config files, with some description of what you did, with the Ubuntu team.
Most of the time, the GUI is not the hard part - its the figuring out what to make the GUI do that is difficult.
Providing your expertise removes a lot of that workload in one fell swoop.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909501</id>
	<title>Re:It's not released yet?!</title>
	<author>palegray.net</author>
	<datestamp>1256827740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The main page may not say so, but <a href="http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/9.10/" title="ubuntu.com">check the mirrors</a> [ubuntu.com]. It's there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The main page may not say so , but check the mirrors [ ubuntu.com ] .
It 's there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The main page may not say so, but check the mirrors [ubuntu.com].
It's there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909871</id>
	<title>Re:Personal Cloud...</title>
	<author>dsginter</author>
	<datestamp>1256829420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Do its pipes get filled with enormous amounts of materiel?</i></p><p>I believe that the Rolling Stones answered this decades ago:</p><p><i>I said, Hey! You! Get off of my cloud<br>Hey! You! Get off of my cloud<br>Hey! You! Get off of my cloud<br>Don't hang around 'cause tubes'll crowd<br>On my cloud, baby </i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do its pipes get filled with enormous amounts of materiel ? I believe that the Rolling Stones answered this decades ago : I said , Hey !
You ! Get off of my cloudHey !
You ! Get off of my cloudHey !
You ! Get off of my cloudDo n't hang around 'cause tubes 'll crowdOn my cloud , baby</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do its pipes get filled with enormous amounts of materiel?I believe that the Rolling Stones answered this decades ago:I said, Hey!
You! Get off of my cloudHey!
You! Get off of my cloudHey!
You! Get off of my cloudDon't hang around 'cause tubes'll crowdOn my cloud, baby </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910447</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256831580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You cannot buy a 2gig netbook.  Microsoft won't sell windows at netbook price rates to go on machines with over 1gig of memory.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can not buy a 2gig netbook .
Microsoft wo n't sell windows at netbook price rates to go on machines with over 1gig of memory .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You cannot buy a 2gig netbook.
Microsoft won't sell windows at netbook price rates to go on machines with over 1gig of memory.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910161</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>joostje</author>
	<datestamp>1256830620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>As others reported, flash worked in previous Ubuntu versions. However, I and a coworker of mine noticed flash being too slow for full screen youtube movies in 9.04. After upgrading to RC 9.10, I can watch youtube flash movies in full screen again.<p>

(after downloading the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.flv file I could always view them with totem etc full screen no problem, so it was a flash-related problem)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As others reported , flash worked in previous Ubuntu versions .
However , I and a coworker of mine noticed flash being too slow for full screen youtube movies in 9.04 .
After upgrading to RC 9.10 , I can watch youtube flash movies in full screen again .
( after downloading the .flv file I could always view them with totem etc full screen no problem , so it was a flash-related problem )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As others reported, flash worked in previous Ubuntu versions.
However, I and a coworker of mine noticed flash being too slow for full screen youtube movies in 9.04.
After upgrading to RC 9.10, I can watch youtube flash movies in full screen again.
(after downloading the .flv file I could always view them with totem etc full screen no problem, so it was a flash-related problem)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911609</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>IGnatius T Foobar</author>
	<datestamp>1256835900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The first generation of netbooks ran linux. Just about everything after that ran windows. Sounds like linux will miss the bus.</p></div></blockquote><p>No.  Microsoft got on the bus and then forced the bus company to turn the bus into a jumbo jet so that Microsoft's fat ass could fit in the seats.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The first generation of netbooks ran linux .
Just about everything after that ran windows .
Sounds like linux will miss the bus.No .
Microsoft got on the bus and then forced the bus company to turn the bus into a jumbo jet so that Microsoft 's fat ass could fit in the seats .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The first generation of netbooks ran linux.
Just about everything after that ran windows.
Sounds like linux will miss the bus.No.
Microsoft got on the bus and then forced the bus company to turn the bus into a jumbo jet so that Microsoft's fat ass could fit in the seats.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913325</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>jhol13</author>
	<datestamp>1256842260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I recommend Ratpoison.</p><p>It'll teach them to use $20 for a gig of memory.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I recommend Ratpoison.It 'll teach them to use $ 20 for a gig of memory .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recommend Ratpoison.It'll teach them to use $20 for a gig of memory.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909987</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>dsavi</author>
	<datestamp>1256829960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Full Ubuntu runs quite nicely on my 256mb/366ghz 11 year old laptop, so I would disagree.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Full Ubuntu runs quite nicely on my 256mb/366ghz 11 year old laptop , so I would disagree .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Full Ubuntu runs quite nicely on my 256mb/366ghz 11 year old laptop, so I would disagree.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911291</id>
	<title>Darn it.</title>
	<author>MBGMorden</author>
	<datestamp>1256834880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I installed 9.04 literally two days ago.  Guess I'll try the update process, but I really wish I could have started with this fresh instead.  I didn't think this was set to go live until December or so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I installed 9.04 literally two days ago .
Guess I 'll try the update process , but I really wish I could have started with this fresh instead .
I did n't think this was set to go live until December or so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I installed 9.04 literally two days ago.
Guess I'll try the update process, but I really wish I could have started with this fresh instead.
I didn't think this was set to go live until December or so.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910289</id>
	<title>Re:How to get Ubuntu 9?</title>
	<author>QuantumRiff</author>
	<datestamp>1256831100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Try pressing Alt-F2 to bring up a "run" dialog, and typing<br>update-manager -d</p><p>I can't remember if it needs a sudo in front of it, but it uses the GUI  update manager to do the equivalent of a<br>"sudo apt-get --dist-upgrade" from the command line.  On the LTS versions, it does not announce new versions being available.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Try pressing Alt-F2 to bring up a " run " dialog , and typingupdate-manager -dI ca n't remember if it needs a sudo in front of it , but it uses the GUI update manager to do the equivalent of a " sudo apt-get --dist-upgrade " from the command line .
On the LTS versions , it does not announce new versions being available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try pressing Alt-F2 to bring up a "run" dialog, and typingupdate-manager -dI can't remember if it needs a sudo in front of it, but it uses the GUI  update manager to do the equivalent of a"sudo apt-get --dist-upgrade" from the command line.
On the LTS versions, it does not announce new versions being available.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910027</id>
	<title>Better than 9.04...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256830080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been testing out the beta and I've been finding that things are generally better than in 9.04. Hopefully this release should be more stable for Intel graphics card users too (the major work Intel was doing reworking their stuff is calming down). However be warned if you use multiple monitors and compiz - xorg lockups will lie in store. Boot speed is improved too. The Moblin version of Ubuntu felt unfinished though and had lots of lockups for me (plus it is absolutely not geared for enterprise style networks - I couldn't get on my Uni's wifi because with Moblin because there's nowhere to enter a wifi username. Regular Ubuntu was no issue though). Obviously some people are going to be upset about Pulseaudio being there but you can see improvements there that the Linux desktop has been needing for some time (even though it's not there yet).</p><p>There are areas that don't seem quite polished enough and people will moan about the Linux apps look terrible and how open source people keep doing this on purpose. If I hadn't seen multimon stability issues I would have already have switched from my 8.04 install.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been testing out the beta and I 've been finding that things are generally better than in 9.04 .
Hopefully this release should be more stable for Intel graphics card users too ( the major work Intel was doing reworking their stuff is calming down ) .
However be warned if you use multiple monitors and compiz - xorg lockups will lie in store .
Boot speed is improved too .
The Moblin version of Ubuntu felt unfinished though and had lots of lockups for me ( plus it is absolutely not geared for enterprise style networks - I could n't get on my Uni 's wifi because with Moblin because there 's nowhere to enter a wifi username .
Regular Ubuntu was no issue though ) .
Obviously some people are going to be upset about Pulseaudio being there but you can see improvements there that the Linux desktop has been needing for some time ( even though it 's not there yet ) .There are areas that do n't seem quite polished enough and people will moan about the Linux apps look terrible and how open source people keep doing this on purpose .
If I had n't seen multimon stability issues I would have already have switched from my 8.04 install .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been testing out the beta and I've been finding that things are generally better than in 9.04.
Hopefully this release should be more stable for Intel graphics card users too (the major work Intel was doing reworking their stuff is calming down).
However be warned if you use multiple monitors and compiz - xorg lockups will lie in store.
Boot speed is improved too.
The Moblin version of Ubuntu felt unfinished though and had lots of lockups for me (plus it is absolutely not geared for enterprise style networks - I couldn't get on my Uni's wifi because with Moblin because there's nowhere to enter a wifi username.
Regular Ubuntu was no issue though).
Obviously some people are going to be upset about Pulseaudio being there but you can see improvements there that the Linux desktop has been needing for some time (even though it's not there yet).There are areas that don't seem quite polished enough and people will moan about the Linux apps look terrible and how open source people keep doing this on purpose.
If I hadn't seen multimon stability issues I would have already have switched from my 8.04 install.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909367</id>
	<title>Re:How to get Ubuntu 9?</title>
	<author>phyrz</author>
	<datestamp>1256827020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you need to upgrade through each version to get to 9.10. also systems never seem to work as well once they go through dist upgrades so in my opinion its best to start afresh. Sooo... stick with what ya got.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you need to upgrade through each version to get to 9.10. also systems never seem to work as well once they go through dist upgrades so in my opinion its best to start afresh .
Sooo... stick with what ya got .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you need to upgrade through each version to get to 9.10. also systems never seem to work as well once they go through dist upgrades so in my opinion its best to start afresh.
Sooo... stick with what ya got.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909901</id>
	<title>Before Installing, note:</title>
	<author>delire</author>
	<datestamp>1256829540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>From the <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910" title="ubuntu.com">Release Notes</a> [ubuntu.com].<br> <br>

<b>Possible corruption of large files with ext4 filesystem</b>
<br> <br>
There have been some reports of data corruption with fresh (not upgraded) ext4 file systems using the Ubuntu 9.10 kernel when writing to large files (over 512MB). The issue is under investigation, and if confirmed will be resolved in a post-release update. Users who routinely manipulate large files may want to consider using ext3 file systems until this issue is resolved. (453579)
<b> <br> <br>
Ubuntu One client requires post-install upgrade
</b> <br> <br>
A serious bug in the Ubuntu One client software included in Ubuntu 9.10 that could potentially result in loss of data has led to disabling file syncing access for this client version on the Ubuntu One servers as a precaution. Users who see a "Capabilities Mismatch" error when trying to use Ubuntu One should install the post-release upgrade of the client that will be made available immediately after release, fixing the original bug and restoring file syncing access to the Ubuntu One servers. Files are still available via the web interface at <a href="http://one.ubuntu.com./" title="one.ubuntu.com">http://one.ubuntu.com./</a> [one.ubuntu.com]
<br> <br>
Contact syncing and tomboy syncing services are not affected by this issue.

<br> <br> <b>
Package list must be manually refreshed before installing drivers
</b>
<br> <br>
The "Hardware Drivers" tool (Jockey) requires up to date package lists before it detects and advertises necessary driver packages. Immediately after a new installation, these package lists will not be present. Before running Jockey for the first time, update the package lists using System-&gt;Administration-&gt;Software-&gt;Update Manager (on Ubuntu) or "KPackageKit" (on Kubuntu). (462704)</htmltext>
<tokenext>From the Release Notes [ ubuntu.com ] .
Possible corruption of large files with ext4 filesystem There have been some reports of data corruption with fresh ( not upgraded ) ext4 file systems using the Ubuntu 9.10 kernel when writing to large files ( over 512MB ) .
The issue is under investigation , and if confirmed will be resolved in a post-release update .
Users who routinely manipulate large files may want to consider using ext3 file systems until this issue is resolved .
( 453579 ) Ubuntu One client requires post-install upgrade A serious bug in the Ubuntu One client software included in Ubuntu 9.10 that could potentially result in loss of data has led to disabling file syncing access for this client version on the Ubuntu One servers as a precaution .
Users who see a " Capabilities Mismatch " error when trying to use Ubuntu One should install the post-release upgrade of the client that will be made available immediately after release , fixing the original bug and restoring file syncing access to the Ubuntu One servers .
Files are still available via the web interface at http : //one.ubuntu.com./ [ one.ubuntu.com ] Contact syncing and tomboy syncing services are not affected by this issue .
Package list must be manually refreshed before installing drivers The " Hardware Drivers " tool ( Jockey ) requires up to date package lists before it detects and advertises necessary driver packages .
Immediately after a new installation , these package lists will not be present .
Before running Jockey for the first time , update the package lists using System- &gt; Administration- &gt; Software- &gt; Update Manager ( on Ubuntu ) or " KPackageKit " ( on Kubuntu ) .
( 462704 )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the Release Notes [ubuntu.com].
Possible corruption of large files with ext4 filesystem
 
There have been some reports of data corruption with fresh (not upgraded) ext4 file systems using the Ubuntu 9.10 kernel when writing to large files (over 512MB).
The issue is under investigation, and if confirmed will be resolved in a post-release update.
Users who routinely manipulate large files may want to consider using ext3 file systems until this issue is resolved.
(453579)
  
Ubuntu One client requires post-install upgrade
  
A serious bug in the Ubuntu One client software included in Ubuntu 9.10 that could potentially result in loss of data has led to disabling file syncing access for this client version on the Ubuntu One servers as a precaution.
Users who see a "Capabilities Mismatch" error when trying to use Ubuntu One should install the post-release upgrade of the client that will be made available immediately after release, fixing the original bug and restoring file syncing access to the Ubuntu One servers.
Files are still available via the web interface at http://one.ubuntu.com./ [one.ubuntu.com]
 
Contact syncing and tomboy syncing services are not affected by this issue.
Package list must be manually refreshed before installing drivers

 
The "Hardware Drivers" tool (Jockey) requires up to date package lists before it detects and advertises necessary driver packages.
Immediately after a new installation, these package lists will not be present.
Before running Jockey for the first time, update the package lists using System-&gt;Administration-&gt;Software-&gt;Update Manager (on Ubuntu) or "KPackageKit" (on Kubuntu).
(462704)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29921165</id>
	<title>dual monitors</title>
	<author>falconwolf</author>
	<datestamp>1256846100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I was always running 2 monitors, and that seemed to be a never-ending battle re-configuring X.</i></p><p>You've had problems running dual monitors?  I won't be doing it right away but when I can afford a new monitor I'll set it up as a second monitor.  My main goal doing so is I want to do some development, graphics work, and photo editing.  I'll use the big new monitor for what I'm working on and use an old monitor or the built in display on my laptop to hold all the pallets and tools.</p><p>If there's a problem do you know if it's with Ubuntu or KDE?  I plan to install and run both Gnome and KDE.  With KDE I want try Krita for photo editing, GIMP just doesn't cut it, to see if it can do what I'll want.  Otherwise I want to try both desktops to see which I prefer.</p><p>

Falcon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was always running 2 monitors , and that seemed to be a never-ending battle re-configuring X.You 've had problems running dual monitors ?
I wo n't be doing it right away but when I can afford a new monitor I 'll set it up as a second monitor .
My main goal doing so is I want to do some development , graphics work , and photo editing .
I 'll use the big new monitor for what I 'm working on and use an old monitor or the built in display on my laptop to hold all the pallets and tools.If there 's a problem do you know if it 's with Ubuntu or KDE ?
I plan to install and run both Gnome and KDE .
With KDE I want try Krita for photo editing , GIMP just does n't cut it , to see if it can do what I 'll want .
Otherwise I want to try both desktops to see which I prefer .
Falcon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was always running 2 monitors, and that seemed to be a never-ending battle re-configuring X.You've had problems running dual monitors?
I won't be doing it right away but when I can afford a new monitor I'll set it up as a second monitor.
My main goal doing so is I want to do some development, graphics work, and photo editing.
I'll use the big new monitor for what I'm working on and use an old monitor or the built in display on my laptop to hold all the pallets and tools.If there's a problem do you know if it's with Ubuntu or KDE?
I plan to install and run both Gnome and KDE.
With KDE I want try Krita for photo editing, GIMP just doesn't cut it, to see if it can do what I'll want.
Otherwise I want to try both desktops to see which I prefer.
Falcon</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909387</id>
	<title>Re:Not yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256827200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But who cares about the next load of brown turd to come out of Canonicals backside?<br>Not me for one. It has fat too much Nannying for my liking.</p><p>Ah well, back to my endless Slackware compilations.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But who cares about the next load of brown turd to come out of Canonicals backside ? Not me for one .
It has fat too much Nannying for my liking.Ah well , back to my endless Slackware compilations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But who cares about the next load of brown turd to come out of Canonicals backside?Not me for one.
It has fat too much Nannying for my liking.Ah well, back to my endless Slackware compilations.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911321</id>
	<title>Yes you can.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256834940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes you can.</p><p>Running Jaunty or Karmic either installed or from the live CD, menu System-&gt;Administration-&gt;USB Startup Disk Creator. It will then ask to be pointed to a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.iso CD image to transfer to the stick.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes you can.Running Jaunty or Karmic either installed or from the live CD , menu System- &gt; Administration- &gt; USB Startup Disk Creator .
It will then ask to be pointed to a .iso CD image to transfer to the stick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes you can.Running Jaunty or Karmic either installed or from the live CD, menu System-&gt;Administration-&gt;USB Startup Disk Creator.
It will then ask to be pointed to a .iso CD image to transfer to the stick.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29917513</id>
	<title>Re:A suggestion...</title>
	<author>RPoet</author>
	<datestamp>1256814960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's all about picking a good mirror. I use one from my own city, and I saturated my DSL while upgrading. Meanwhile, our national mirror was (and still is) bogged down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's all about picking a good mirror .
I use one from my own city , and I saturated my DSL while upgrading .
Meanwhile , our national mirror was ( and still is ) bogged down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's all about picking a good mirror.
I use one from my own city, and I saturated my DSL while upgrading.
Meanwhile, our national mirror was (and still is) bogged down.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29920107</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>angus77</author>
	<datestamp>1256831760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I can barely run xubuntu on a machine with 256megs or ram let alone full ubuntu.</p></div><p>I was running Ubuntu on an old 500MHz desktop in my office with only 256MB of RAM, and it ran well enough to get my work done (mainly with OpenOffice).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can barely run xubuntu on a machine with 256megs or ram let alone full ubuntu.I was running Ubuntu on an old 500MHz desktop in my office with only 256MB of RAM , and it ran well enough to get my work done ( mainly with OpenOffice ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can barely run xubuntu on a machine with 256megs or ram let alone full ubuntu.I was running Ubuntu on an old 500MHz desktop in my office with only 256MB of RAM, and it ran well enough to get my work done (mainly with OpenOffice).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909281</id>
	<title>no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256826660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it's not</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's not</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's not</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912245</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Lennie</author>
	<datestamp>1256838060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Supposedly netbooks with an ARM-chip are called Smartbooks.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Supposedly netbooks with an ARM-chip are called Smartbooks .
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Supposedly netbooks with an ARM-chip are called Smartbooks.
;-)</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909689</id>
	<title>Ubuntu 9.10 Features</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256828580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Features in Ubuntu 9.10<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-9-10-Officially-Released-125578.shtml</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Features in Ubuntu 9.10 ... http : //news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-9-10-Officially-Released-125578.shtml</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Features in Ubuntu 9.10 ... http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-9-10-Officially-Released-125578.shtml</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910011</id>
	<title>USB install</title>
	<author>Narishma</author>
	<datestamp>1256830020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can you install the desktop version (not the netbook edition) using a USB stick? They only provide ISOs on the official website, not IMGs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you install the desktop version ( not the netbook edition ) using a USB stick ?
They only provide ISOs on the official website , not IMGs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you install the desktop version (not the netbook edition) using a USB stick?
They only provide ISOs on the official website, not IMGs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913105</id>
	<title>Re:DANGER! DO NOT Install 9.10 with ext4! (if at a</title>
	<author>david\_thornley</author>
	<datestamp>1256841180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
My big problem with 9.04 was trackerd, which would fairly frequently pop up a dialog box that wouldn't go away.  After a while, it started using so many system resources when it popped up that the system would lock.  (I don't know which resources, since my terminal program running top froze also.)  I checked the bug system, and it was a fairly common complaint, while one workaround they suggested did nothing for me.
</p><p>
The secret to running 9.04 turned out to be "sudo apt-get remove tracker".  It's great.  It's like having a computer again.  Even the sound works now (it didn't under 8.10, and installing drivers myself didn't fix the problem).
</p><p>
Frankly, if I wanted to troubleshoot system problems, I'd have installed Gentoo or something.
</p><p>
I think I may just skip 9.10 and wait for the next LTS version (10.04, I believe).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My big problem with 9.04 was trackerd , which would fairly frequently pop up a dialog box that would n't go away .
After a while , it started using so many system resources when it popped up that the system would lock .
( I do n't know which resources , since my terminal program running top froze also .
) I checked the bug system , and it was a fairly common complaint , while one workaround they suggested did nothing for me .
The secret to running 9.04 turned out to be " sudo apt-get remove tracker " .
It 's great .
It 's like having a computer again .
Even the sound works now ( it did n't under 8.10 , and installing drivers myself did n't fix the problem ) .
Frankly , if I wanted to troubleshoot system problems , I 'd have installed Gentoo or something .
I think I may just skip 9.10 and wait for the next LTS version ( 10.04 , I believe ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
My big problem with 9.04 was trackerd, which would fairly frequently pop up a dialog box that wouldn't go away.
After a while, it started using so many system resources when it popped up that the system would lock.
(I don't know which resources, since my terminal program running top froze also.
)  I checked the bug system, and it was a fairly common complaint, while one workaround they suggested did nothing for me.
The secret to running 9.04 turned out to be "sudo apt-get remove tracker".
It's great.
It's like having a computer again.
Even the sound works now (it didn't under 8.10, and installing drivers myself didn't fix the problem).
Frankly, if I wanted to troubleshoot system problems, I'd have installed Gentoo or something.
I think I may just skip 9.10 and wait for the next LTS version (10.04, I believe).</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910875</id>
	<title>website</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256833200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thank god they cleaned up their homepage</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank god they cleaned up their homepage</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank god they cleaned up their homepage</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910543</id>
	<title>Re:USB install</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256832000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, if you run the live session there is a tool to build a bootable usb stick (which you can install from)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , if you run the live session there is a tool to build a bootable usb stick ( which you can install from )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, if you run the live session there is a tool to build a bootable usb stick (which you can install from)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909397</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256827260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>MS doesn't miss the bus. The problem is the MS bus is a short bus.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>MS does n't miss the bus .
The problem is the MS bus is a short bus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MS doesn't miss the bus.
The problem is the MS bus is a short bus.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29914367</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256846220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>since when did netbooks have to have high power processors and a 150Gb hard drive and cost &pound;400! I got my acer one for &pound;200 I have seen them being sold for &pound;175, though they are rare now<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(, ok i moded it opened it up and added 1Gb of ram for &pound;12 and got rid of the shitty linplus shite distro in flavor ubuntu using ext 2 and no swap so as not to burn out the ssd, but at leased then I could have firefox and other applications open at the same time, and i doubt xp would have beeten it for performance, there are some shitty xp machines at work with 500mb of ram and man they kick up a fuss when you try to do anything hdd klicking away like a buzz saw, why dose xp do that? i guess its paging, gode knows cos its not FOSS. ubuntu beats xp for boot time, the number of times I have been sitting at an xp machine tearing my eyes out with boredom because it was booting or waiting for ffox or ie to load, (and dont give me shit about how xp is great on a clean system with no programs installed and the Internet connection pulled, preferably with the machine switched of in a sealed room, just to be safe, any real M$ machine with more than a year of use sucks ass, probably because of the registry getting corrupted, hey guys ant M$hit idea for you failure mode analysis? ==dont depend on massive data bases for all your configuration data).<br>the dell one as well now only &pound;200 and with the beter n270 chip set fudging bargin! but what's this i see "netbooks" on sale in currys and pc world for &pound;350-&pound;500, running xp, it cant just be because the pound is weak (thanks Gordon) these things are on the same chipset processor, the same specks the works what gives, whats with these news reports from the bbc," netbooks great! but dose it come with xp?"<br><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click\_online/8155546.stm" title="bbc.co.uk" rel="nofollow"> [fcuk you Nate Lanxon you cokc]</a> [bbc.co.uk] - because disappointment is familiar, and an extra &pound;50 on the price.<br>also what gives with the guy ubuntu got out for this <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8327082.stm" title="bbc.co.uk" rel="nofollow">news interview</a> [bbc.co.uk]<br>not the slickest, especially when you consider the hy$$pe M$ has been pumping into the nicely timed release of window$ 7. and still the presenters ask the same lame ass questions about M$, mac isnt doged by these shitty questions, but on the other hand they spend money on marketing.</p><p>also another reason ubuntu is better than xp/vista/7, 700Mb install disk (instead of ~4Gb) and i have never once had to install drivers separately for sound cards ect, it just comes as is, but with xp i have to find the drivers for my mother board/graphics card/disk drives! (and they say M$ is the easier option!) also you then have to fork out for office (&pound;50-100 i dont know I have never payed) and anything else that lets you use the hard ware you bought like the disk burner.<br>aaaaarrgggg i am sooo angryyyyyy</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>since when did netbooks have to have high power processors and a 150Gb hard drive and cost   400 !
I got my acer one for   200 I have seen them being sold for   175 , though they are rare now : ( , ok i moded it opened it up and added 1Gb of ram for   12 and got rid of the shitty linplus shite distro in flavor ubuntu using ext 2 and no swap so as not to burn out the ssd , but at leased then I could have firefox and other applications open at the same time , and i doubt xp would have beeten it for performance , there are some shitty xp machines at work with 500mb of ram and man they kick up a fuss when you try to do anything hdd klicking away like a buzz saw , why dose xp do that ?
i guess its paging , gode knows cos its not FOSS .
ubuntu beats xp for boot time , the number of times I have been sitting at an xp machine tearing my eyes out with boredom because it was booting or waiting for ffox or ie to load , ( and dont give me shit about how xp is great on a clean system with no programs installed and the Internet connection pulled , preferably with the machine switched of in a sealed room , just to be safe , any real M $ machine with more than a year of use sucks ass , probably because of the registry getting corrupted , hey guys ant M $ hit idea for you failure mode analysis ?
= = dont depend on massive data bases for all your configuration data ) .the dell one as well now only   200 and with the beter n270 chip set fudging bargin !
but what 's this i see " netbooks " on sale in currys and pc world for   350-   500 , running xp , it cant just be because the pound is weak ( thanks Gordon ) these things are on the same chipset processor , the same specks the works what gives , whats with these news reports from the bbc , " netbooks great !
but dose it come with xp ?
" [ fcuk you Nate Lanxon you cokc ] [ bbc.co.uk ] - because disappointment is familiar , and an extra   50 on the price.also what gives with the guy ubuntu got out for this news interview [ bbc.co.uk ] not the slickest , especially when you consider the hy $ $ pe M $ has been pumping into the nicely timed release of window $ 7. and still the presenters ask the same lame ass questions about M $ , mac isnt doged by these shitty questions , but on the other hand they spend money on marketing.also another reason ubuntu is better than xp/vista/7 , 700Mb install disk ( instead of ~ 4Gb ) and i have never once had to install drivers separately for sound cards ect , it just comes as is , but with xp i have to find the drivers for my mother board/graphics card/disk drives !
( and they say M $ is the easier option !
) also you then have to fork out for office (   50-100 i dont know I have never payed ) and anything else that lets you use the hard ware you bought like the disk burner.aaaaarrgggg i am sooo angryyyyyy</tokentext>
<sentencetext>since when did netbooks have to have high power processors and a 150Gb hard drive and cost £400!
I got my acer one for £200 I have seen them being sold for £175, though they are rare now :(, ok i moded it opened it up and added 1Gb of ram for £12 and got rid of the shitty linplus shite distro in flavor ubuntu using ext 2 and no swap so as not to burn out the ssd, but at leased then I could have firefox and other applications open at the same time, and i doubt xp would have beeten it for performance, there are some shitty xp machines at work with 500mb of ram and man they kick up a fuss when you try to do anything hdd klicking away like a buzz saw, why dose xp do that?
i guess its paging, gode knows cos its not FOSS.
ubuntu beats xp for boot time, the number of times I have been sitting at an xp machine tearing my eyes out with boredom because it was booting or waiting for ffox or ie to load, (and dont give me shit about how xp is great on a clean system with no programs installed and the Internet connection pulled, preferably with the machine switched of in a sealed room, just to be safe, any real M$ machine with more than a year of use sucks ass, probably because of the registry getting corrupted, hey guys ant M$hit idea for you failure mode analysis?
==dont depend on massive data bases for all your configuration data).the dell one as well now only £200 and with the beter n270 chip set fudging bargin!
but what's this i see "netbooks" on sale in currys and pc world for £350-£500, running xp, it cant just be because the pound is weak (thanks Gordon) these things are on the same chipset processor, the same specks the works what gives, whats with these news reports from the bbc," netbooks great!
but dose it come with xp?
" [fcuk you Nate Lanxon you cokc] [bbc.co.uk] - because disappointment is familiar, and an extra £50 on the price.also what gives with the guy ubuntu got out for this news interview [bbc.co.uk]not the slickest, especially when you consider the hy$$pe M$ has been pumping into the nicely timed release of window$ 7. and still the presenters ask the same lame ass questions about M$, mac isnt doged by these shitty questions, but on the other hand they spend money on marketing.also another reason ubuntu is better than xp/vista/7, 700Mb install disk (instead of ~4Gb) and i have never once had to install drivers separately for sound cards ect, it just comes as is, but with xp i have to find the drivers for my mother board/graphics card/disk drives!
(and they say M$ is the easier option!
) also you then have to fork out for office (£50-100 i dont know I have never payed) and anything else that lets you use the hard ware you bought like the disk burner.aaaaarrgggg i am sooo angryyyyyy</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910147</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>imakemusic</author>
	<datestamp>1256830500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Flash works fine. Watching youtube videos full-screen at their original frame-rate would be nice though. Or is that just me?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Flash works fine .
Watching youtube videos full-screen at their original frame-rate would be nice though .
Or is that just me ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Flash works fine.
Watching youtube videos full-screen at their original frame-rate would be nice though.
Or is that just me?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913379</id>
	<title>should still be beta</title>
	<author>FewClues</author>
	<datestamp>1256842500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Released usually means stable.  The first failure notice I had after installing the RELEASED Ubuntu 9.10 was that the highly touted Ubuntu One was broken.  My client was more advanced than the server according to the alarm.  So as far as exhibiting their cloud capability they score a negative.

My web cam is useless.  Skype only partially works.

It may say released but its still a beta!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Released usually means stable .
The first failure notice I had after installing the RELEASED Ubuntu 9.10 was that the highly touted Ubuntu One was broken .
My client was more advanced than the server according to the alarm .
So as far as exhibiting their cloud capability they score a negative .
My web cam is useless .
Skype only partially works .
It may say released but its still a beta !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Released usually means stable.
The first failure notice I had after installing the RELEASED Ubuntu 9.10 was that the highly touted Ubuntu One was broken.
My client was more advanced than the server according to the alarm.
So as far as exhibiting their cloud capability they score a negative.
My web cam is useless.
Skype only partially works.
It may say released but its still a beta!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909487</id>
	<title>Re:It's not released yet?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256827680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're getting started early so that there's time for three or four dupes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're getting started early so that there 's time for three or four dupes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're getting started early so that there's time for three or four dupes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909317</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29915211</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>thtrgremlin</author>
	<datestamp>1256849640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You got it all wrong. Everyone else is on the long bus. M$ Bus recently became a standard with the support of the EPA, Schwarzenegger, and Al Gore; so I think that makes a scientific consensus.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You got it all wrong .
Everyone else is on the long bus .
M $ Bus recently became a standard with the support of the EPA , Schwarzenegger , and Al Gore ; so I think that makes a scientific consensus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You got it all wrong.
Everyone else is on the long bus.
M$ Bus recently became a standard with the support of the EPA, Schwarzenegger, and Al Gore; so I think that makes a scientific consensus.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910475</id>
	<title>Re:USB install</title>
	<author>quercus.aeternam</author>
	<datestamp>1256831700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/" title="sourceforge.net">http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/</a> [sourceforge.net]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [ sourceforge.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29916807</id>
	<title>Re:KDE summary: usable but not great. I'll pass.</title>
	<author>Have Brain Will Rent</author>
	<datestamp>1256812140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think Ubuntu needs more work on existing features/apps instead of introducing new features/apps each release. Most people do not want to spend time relearning how to do tasks they already know how to do - they want things to work better, not differently (and yes, I know sometimes you can get both).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think Ubuntu needs more work on existing features/apps instead of introducing new features/apps each release .
Most people do not want to spend time relearning how to do tasks they already know how to do - they want things to work better , not differently ( and yes , I know sometimes you can get both ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think Ubuntu needs more work on existing features/apps instead of introducing new features/apps each release.
Most people do not want to spend time relearning how to do tasks they already know how to do - they want things to work better, not differently (and yes, I know sometimes you can get both).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909853</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256829360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd be inclined to suggest that you were somehow doing something wrong.</p><p>I got Xubuntu 8.04 to install and run rather nicely on an old Dell Latitude CPx H500GT. 500 MHz processor, 256 MB of RAM, and a 30 GB HDD. It doesn't seem to stress the processor very much, either -- Windows XP on the same machine could get the fan to turn on if I breathe in its general direction, much less launch a music playing app.<br>I ended up installing Wine so I could at least have Foobar2000 for music, and plugged it into the line-in of the speakers running around my place.</p><p>Easy enough to get di.fm playing that way, but it's time for me to find something else to stream (or pay for di.fm to get rid of the "Hey. You love di.fm, so why not subscribe to shut me up?" ads that are inserted).<br>Pandora was out of the equation -- Flash chokes the computer (but then again, what low-end PC doesn't choke on Flash?), and Soma FM, while interesting, doesn't really have what I want to listen to for days on end.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd be inclined to suggest that you were somehow doing something wrong.I got Xubuntu 8.04 to install and run rather nicely on an old Dell Latitude CPx H500GT .
500 MHz processor , 256 MB of RAM , and a 30 GB HDD .
It does n't seem to stress the processor very much , either -- Windows XP on the same machine could get the fan to turn on if I breathe in its general direction , much less launch a music playing app.I ended up installing Wine so I could at least have Foobar2000 for music , and plugged it into the line-in of the speakers running around my place.Easy enough to get di.fm playing that way , but it 's time for me to find something else to stream ( or pay for di.fm to get rid of the " Hey .
You love di.fm , so why not subscribe to shut me up ?
" ads that are inserted ) .Pandora was out of the equation -- Flash chokes the computer ( but then again , what low-end PC does n't choke on Flash ?
) , and Soma FM , while interesting , does n't really have what I want to listen to for days on end .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd be inclined to suggest that you were somehow doing something wrong.I got Xubuntu 8.04 to install and run rather nicely on an old Dell Latitude CPx H500GT.
500 MHz processor, 256 MB of RAM, and a 30 GB HDD.
It doesn't seem to stress the processor very much, either -- Windows XP on the same machine could get the fan to turn on if I breathe in its general direction, much less launch a music playing app.I ended up installing Wine so I could at least have Foobar2000 for music, and plugged it into the line-in of the speakers running around my place.Easy enough to get di.fm playing that way, but it's time for me to find something else to stream (or pay for di.fm to get rid of the "Hey.
You love di.fm, so why not subscribe to shut me up?
" ads that are inserted).Pandora was out of the equation -- Flash chokes the computer (but then again, what low-end PC doesn't choke on Flash?
), and Soma FM, while interesting, doesn't really have what I want to listen to for days on end.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910461</id>
	<title>Re:DANGER! DO NOT Install 9.10 with ext4! (if at a</title>
	<author>bluefoxlucid</author>
	<datestamp>1256831640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A brand new install may destroy your files.  If you're upgrading, the separate<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/home or<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/data partition isn't going to be affected.  Large files on / (maybe<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/tmp/cd\_image.brasero.iso) may be affected.  The risk of data corruption is pretty minimal, because where the hell do you get REALLY BIG FILES after a FRESH INSTALL?  Backups that you had anyway?</htmltext>
<tokenext>A brand new install may destroy your files .
If you 're upgrading , the separate /home or /data partition is n't going to be affected .
Large files on / ( maybe /tmp/cd \ _image.brasero.iso ) may be affected .
The risk of data corruption is pretty minimal , because where the hell do you get REALLY BIG FILES after a FRESH INSTALL ?
Backups that you had anyway ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A brand new install may destroy your files.
If you're upgrading, the separate /home or /data partition isn't going to be affected.
Large files on / (maybe /tmp/cd\_image.brasero.iso) may be affected.
The risk of data corruption is pretty minimal, because where the hell do you get REALLY BIG FILES after a FRESH INSTALL?
Backups that you had anyway?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29920091</id>
	<title>Re:Samba?</title>
	<author>okmijnuhb</author>
	<datestamp>1256831700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree, my first install was debian slink on a laptop, currently I have Ubuntu 9.04, and granted I havent put in much time, but i have NEVER gotten samba figured out enough to make it work.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree , my first install was debian slink on a laptop , currently I have Ubuntu 9.04 , and granted I havent put in much time , but i have NEVER gotten samba figured out enough to make it work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree, my first install was debian slink on a laptop, currently I have Ubuntu 9.04, and granted I havent put in much time, but i have NEVER gotten samba figured out enough to make it work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912289</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256838180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, ah, you've had flash for a couple of months now, you say. Hmm, that's cewl. I've had it for a while now, a decade I would say, but, you know, that's cool, you'll be ready for the desktop pretty soon.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , ah , you 've had flash for a couple of months now , you say .
Hmm , that 's cewl .
I 've had it for a while now , a decade I would say , but , you know , that 's cool , you 'll be ready for the desktop pretty soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, ah, you've had flash for a couple of months now, you say.
Hmm, that's cewl.
I've had it for a while now, a decade I would say, but, you know, that's cool, you'll be ready for the desktop pretty soon.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912457</id>
	<title>too much focus on window manager flair</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256838780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Latest is always quite sketchy with too much focus on just trying to make things prettier wtf.</p><p>Agree with some of the comments mentioning targeting 256mb ram, though that's probably a bit low these days.<br>But all I want is the under the hood linux base and apps upgraded, I don't give a damn about more flash.</p><p>If all I cared about was flash I'd use fscking windows.</p><p>Needs to be a version or distrib that focuses on under the hood components, fixing the million existing bugs in current window managers, and stop trying to give us more flair that just slows your fscking computer down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Latest is always quite sketchy with too much focus on just trying to make things prettier wtf.Agree with some of the comments mentioning targeting 256mb ram , though that 's probably a bit low these days.But all I want is the under the hood linux base and apps upgraded , I do n't give a damn about more flash.If all I cared about was flash I 'd use fscking windows.Needs to be a version or distrib that focuses on under the hood components , fixing the million existing bugs in current window managers , and stop trying to give us more flair that just slows your fscking computer down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Latest is always quite sketchy with too much focus on just trying to make things prettier wtf.Agree with some of the comments mentioning targeting 256mb ram, though that's probably a bit low these days.But all I want is the under the hood linux base and apps upgraded, I don't give a damn about more flash.If all I cared about was flash I'd use fscking windows.Needs to be a version or distrib that focuses on under the hood components, fixing the million existing bugs in current window managers, and stop trying to give us more flair that just slows your fscking computer down.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29915077</id>
	<title>Re:Torrentz PLZ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256849160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <a href="http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/karmic/desktop/" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/karmic/desktop/</a> [ubuntu.com].  Or, for specifically:</p><p>(691M) <a href="http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/karmic/desktop/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso</a> [ubuntu.com]<br>
&nbsp; (27K) <a href="http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/karmic/desktop/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent</a> [ubuntu.com]<br>(650M) <a href="http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/karmic/desktop/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+dove.img" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+dove.img</a> [ubuntu.com]<br>
&nbsp; (26K) <a href="http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/karmic/desktop/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+dove.img.torrent" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+dove.img.torrent</a> [ubuntu.com]<br>(662M) <a href="http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/karmic/desktop/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+imx51.img" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+imx51.img</a> [ubuntu.com]<br>
&nbsp; (26K) <a href="http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/karmic/desktop/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+imx51.img.torrent" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+imx51.img.torrent</a> [ubuntu.com]ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso<br>
&nbsp; (27K) <a href="http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/karmic/desktop/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent</a> [ubuntu.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/karmic/desktop/ [ ubuntu.com ] .
Or , for specifically : ( 691M ) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso [ ubuntu.com ]   ( 27K ) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [ ubuntu.com ] ( 650M ) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel + dove.img [ ubuntu.com ]   ( 26K ) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel + dove.img.torrent [ ubuntu.com ] ( 662M ) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel + imx51.img [ ubuntu.com ]   ( 26K ) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel + imx51.img.torrent [ ubuntu.com ] ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso   ( 27K ) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [ ubuntu.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/karmic/desktop/ [ubuntu.com].
Or, for specifically:(691M) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso [ubuntu.com]
  (27K) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com](650M) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+dove.img [ubuntu.com]
  (26K) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+dove.img.torrent [ubuntu.com](662M) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+imx51.img [ubuntu.com]
  (26K) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+imx51.img.torrent [ubuntu.com]ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
  (27K) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910411</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910349</id>
	<title>Re:no it wasnt..</title>
	<author>kauttapiste</author>
	<datestamp>1256831280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh look, that isn't an argument. It's just contradiction. I came here for a good argument.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh look , that is n't an argument .
It 's just contradiction .
I came here for a good argument .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh look, that isn't an argument.
It's just contradiction.
I came here for a good argument.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909275</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909693</id>
	<title>Re:Not yet</title>
	<author>he-sk</author>
	<datestamp>1256828640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then what's in the file ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso I'm torrenting right now?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then what 's in the file ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso I 'm torrenting right now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then what's in the file ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso I'm torrenting right now?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909307</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909243</id>
	<title>FiRsT tRoUt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256826540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am a fish!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am a fish !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am a fish!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909323</id>
	<title>Broke for me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256826900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My server upgrade from 9.04 broke, and it looks hosed. Something about dbus complaining a messagebus user already existing, then the init process used 100\% cpu and memory 'til it dropped offline. Sigh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My server upgrade from 9.04 broke , and it looks hosed .
Something about dbus complaining a messagebus user already existing , then the init process used 100 \ % cpu and memory 'til it dropped offline .
Sigh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My server upgrade from 9.04 broke, and it looks hosed.
Something about dbus complaining a messagebus user already existing, then the init process used 100\% cpu and memory 'til it dropped offline.
Sigh.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909517</id>
	<title>Re:no it wasnt..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256827800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Vaporware!</p><p>Microsoft's ad agency swings into action...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Vaporware ! Microsoft 's ad agency swings into action.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vaporware!Microsoft's ad agency swings into action...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909275</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912537</id>
	<title>Re:Before Installing, note:</title>
	<author>goldspider</author>
	<datestamp>1256839140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's examples like this that demonstrate why Ubuntu is widely considered the most user-friendly Linux distribution available.</p><p>Snark aside, what would the average Slashdotter's response be if Microsoft released WinFS in such a state?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's examples like this that demonstrate why Ubuntu is widely considered the most user-friendly Linux distribution available.Snark aside , what would the average Slashdotter 's response be if Microsoft released WinFS in such a state ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's examples like this that demonstrate why Ubuntu is widely considered the most user-friendly Linux distribution available.Snark aside, what would the average Slashdotter's response be if Microsoft released WinFS in such a state?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909901</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909253</id>
	<title>time</title>
	<author>pppjurac</author>
	<datestamp>1256826600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>to start upgrade !

5,4,3,2,1....</htmltext>
<tokenext>to start upgrade !
5,4,3,2,1... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to start upgrade !
5,4,3,2,1....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912957</id>
	<title>Re:BitTorrent links</title>
	<author>dbc001</author>
	<datestamp>1256840640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone know where to get a torrent for Ubuntu Studio 64?  The Ubuntu Studio site only links to the cdimage server.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone know where to get a torrent for Ubuntu Studio 64 ?
The Ubuntu Studio site only links to the cdimage server .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone know where to get a torrent for Ubuntu Studio 64?
The Ubuntu Studio site only links to the cdimage server.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910449</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913131</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime T</title>
	<author>voodoosteve</author>
	<datestamp>1256841300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can choose other filesystems, such as ext3, if you setup the partitions manually.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can choose other filesystems , such as ext3 , if you setup the partitions manually .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can choose other filesystems, such as ext3, if you setup the partitions manually.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909469</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29919633</id>
	<title>Does Ubuntu have a big advantage over debian?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256827800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have been using debian for years. But, I would switch to Ubuntu, if there is some good reason to do so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have been using debian for years .
But , I would switch to Ubuntu , if there is some good reason to do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have been using debian for years.
But, I would switch to Ubuntu, if there is some good reason to do so.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909267</id>
	<title>How to get Ubuntu 9?</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1256826600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm currently running Ubuntu 8.something.   If I want to upgrade do I have to a do a complete reinstall, or can I just click "install updates" on my desktop?  If it's the former, then I'll just stay with Ubuntu 8.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm currently running Ubuntu 8.something .
If I want to upgrade do I have to a do a complete reinstall , or can I just click " install updates " on my desktop ?
If it 's the former , then I 'll just stay with Ubuntu 8 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm currently running Ubuntu 8.something.
If I want to upgrade do I have to a do a complete reinstall, or can I just click "install updates" on my desktop?
If it's the former, then I'll just stay with Ubuntu 8.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29914771</id>
	<title>Re:KDE summary: usable but not great. I'll pass.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256847960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're missing out.  I've had very good performance with this release and KDE 4.3 rocks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're missing out .
I 've had very good performance with this release and KDE 4.3 rocks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're missing out.
I've had very good performance with this release and KDE 4.3 rocks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910583</id>
	<title>Re:It's not released yet?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256832120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh yes I live on the main ubuntu page.  I check it every 20 or 30 mins just incase!</p><p>Oh and by the link you posted its out...  At the time you posted the web site was a bit behind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh yes I live on the main ubuntu page .
I check it every 20 or 30 mins just incase ! Oh and by the link you posted its out... At the time you posted the web site was a bit behind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh yes I live on the main ubuntu page.
I check it every 20 or 30 mins just incase!Oh and by the link you posted its out...  At the time you posted the web site was a bit behind.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909317</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909633</id>
	<title>Re:It's not released yet?!</title>
	<author>DoofusOfDeath</author>
	<datestamp>1256828400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I mean, c... c... come on, g-g-g-guys!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean , c... c... come on , g-g-g-guys !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean, c... c... come on, g-g-g-guys!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909317</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911077</id>
	<title>Re:time</title>
	<author>awpoopy</author>
	<datestamp>1256833920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hate it when someone guesses my password.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate it when someone guesses my password .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate it when someone guesses my password.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909253</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913233</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime T</title>
	<author>mr exploiter</author>
	<datestamp>1256841840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ext3 was not exactly perfect either. At least with the default configuration that came with ubuntu I had data loss problems. Never had that with NTFS.
I also have second hands accounts of disks that didn't even boot with ext3 that worked fine when formated with NTFS.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ext3 was not exactly perfect either .
At least with the default configuration that came with ubuntu I had data loss problems .
Never had that with NTFS .
I also have second hands accounts of disks that did n't even boot with ext3 that worked fine when formated with NTFS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ext3 was not exactly perfect either.
At least with the default configuration that came with ubuntu I had data loss problems.
Never had that with NTFS.
I also have second hands accounts of disks that didn't even boot with ext3 that worked fine when formated with NTFS.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909469</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910433</id>
	<title>KDE summary: usable but not great. I'll pass.</title>
	<author>KWTm</author>
	<datestamp>1256831520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kubuntu fans can check the release notes here: <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/RC/Kubuntu" title="ubuntu.com">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/RC/Kubuntu</a> [ubuntu.com]<br>Browsing through them, I got the feeling of tired, haggard Kubuntu maintainers congratulating themselves for surviving, but not excelling in, the production of this version which still has many issues.  If you read between the lines, you see that there are still quite a number of issues.  "The NetworkManager applet has received some loving from its creators, and offers a more robust networking experience than it did in Kubuntu 9.04."</p><p>I went to the Feedback page <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/RC/Kubuntu/Feedback" title="ubuntu.com">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/RC/Kubuntu/Feedback</a> [ubuntu.com] to see how KDE would do in this version.  This is where you get the honest criticism that tells you what problems you might encounter.  Generally people are offering encouragement but the fact is that this version of Kubuntu is still not cutting it.  Comments usually start with "Great release!  However<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... " and then a list of bugs.  These are bugs from before.  One person says: "all bugs I noticed are still there: broken knetworkmanager, no sending via bluetooth, preview file in dolphin's context menu not working. I tried 9.10 in hope they were corrected, but they weren't."</p><p>I myself have been staying with 8.04 since that is the last version that officially supported KDE 3.  (I hear that you can now get KDE 3 versions of 8.10 or 9.04, but I don't think those are official.)  If I'm going to retrain myself on KDE 4, I might as well wait an extra half year and get the 10.04 Long-Term Support edition --if ever Kubuntu gets around to doing one.  (8.04 was LTS for GNOME Ubuntu only, not for Kubuntu.)</p><p>I think the Kubuntu developers need to be strongly encouraged to fix existing bugs instead of putting in new features.</p><p>As an aside, regarding the "Known Issues" list for standard GNOME Ubuntu:<br>Release notes <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910" title="ubuntu.com">http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910</a> [ubuntu.com]<br>Does anyone else think that there are more and more bugs now, and that Ubuntu simply is not the "install and use defaults" user-friendly distro that it used to be?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kubuntu fans can check the release notes here : https : //wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/RC/Kubuntu [ ubuntu.com ] Browsing through them , I got the feeling of tired , haggard Kubuntu maintainers congratulating themselves for surviving , but not excelling in , the production of this version which still has many issues .
If you read between the lines , you see that there are still quite a number of issues .
" The NetworkManager applet has received some loving from its creators , and offers a more robust networking experience than it did in Kubuntu 9.04 .
" I went to the Feedback page https : //wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/RC/Kubuntu/Feedback [ ubuntu.com ] to see how KDE would do in this version .
This is where you get the honest criticism that tells you what problems you might encounter .
Generally people are offering encouragement but the fact is that this version of Kubuntu is still not cutting it .
Comments usually start with " Great release !
However ... " and then a list of bugs .
These are bugs from before .
One person says : " all bugs I noticed are still there : broken knetworkmanager , no sending via bluetooth , preview file in dolphin 's context menu not working .
I tried 9.10 in hope they were corrected , but they were n't .
" I myself have been staying with 8.04 since that is the last version that officially supported KDE 3 .
( I hear that you can now get KDE 3 versions of 8.10 or 9.04 , but I do n't think those are official .
) If I 'm going to retrain myself on KDE 4 , I might as well wait an extra half year and get the 10.04 Long-Term Support edition --if ever Kubuntu gets around to doing one .
( 8.04 was LTS for GNOME Ubuntu only , not for Kubuntu .
) I think the Kubuntu developers need to be strongly encouraged to fix existing bugs instead of putting in new features.As an aside , regarding the " Known Issues " list for standard GNOME Ubuntu : Release notes http : //www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910 [ ubuntu.com ] Does anyone else think that there are more and more bugs now , and that Ubuntu simply is not the " install and use defaults " user-friendly distro that it used to be ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kubuntu fans can check the release notes here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/RC/Kubuntu [ubuntu.com]Browsing through them, I got the feeling of tired, haggard Kubuntu maintainers congratulating themselves for surviving, but not excelling in, the production of this version which still has many issues.
If you read between the lines, you see that there are still quite a number of issues.
"The NetworkManager applet has received some loving from its creators, and offers a more robust networking experience than it did in Kubuntu 9.04.
"I went to the Feedback page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/RC/Kubuntu/Feedback [ubuntu.com] to see how KDE would do in this version.
This is where you get the honest criticism that tells you what problems you might encounter.
Generally people are offering encouragement but the fact is that this version of Kubuntu is still not cutting it.
Comments usually start with "Great release!
However ... " and then a list of bugs.
These are bugs from before.
One person says: "all bugs I noticed are still there: broken knetworkmanager, no sending via bluetooth, preview file in dolphin's context menu not working.
I tried 9.10 in hope they were corrected, but they weren't.
"I myself have been staying with 8.04 since that is the last version that officially supported KDE 3.
(I hear that you can now get KDE 3 versions of 8.10 or 9.04, but I don't think those are official.
)  If I'm going to retrain myself on KDE 4, I might as well wait an extra half year and get the 10.04 Long-Term Support edition --if ever Kubuntu gets around to doing one.
(8.04 was LTS for GNOME Ubuntu only, not for Kubuntu.
)I think the Kubuntu developers need to be strongly encouraged to fix existing bugs instead of putting in new features.As an aside, regarding the "Known Issues" list for standard GNOME Ubuntu:Release notes http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910 [ubuntu.com]Does anyone else think that there are more and more bugs now, and that Ubuntu simply is not the "install and use defaults" user-friendly distro that it used to be?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913717</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256843760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Flash doesn't use HW acceleration scaling if you are using Compiz.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Flash does n't use HW acceleration scaling if you are using Compiz .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Flash doesn't use HW acceleration scaling if you are using Compiz.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910161</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909749</id>
	<title>Flash?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256828880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will this version support Flash? It sure would be nice to view Youtube movies or play online games.</p><p>Of course, that's Adobe's fault, or ATI's fault.</p><p>Thanks, Ubuntu!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will this version support Flash ?
It sure would be nice to view Youtube movies or play online games.Of course , that 's Adobe 's fault , or ATI 's fault.Thanks , Ubuntu !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will this version support Flash?
It sure would be nice to view Youtube movies or play online games.Of course, that's Adobe's fault, or ATI's fault.Thanks, Ubuntu!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912329</id>
	<title>Re:USB install</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256838300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>apt-get install usb-creator. Run it and select your fresh<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.iso image as the source.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>apt-get install usb-creator .
Run it and select your fresh .iso image as the source .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>apt-get install usb-creator.
Run it and select your fresh .iso image as the source.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912739</id>
	<title>Re:DANGER! DO NOT Install 9.10 with ext4! (if at a</title>
	<author>DrXym</author>
	<datestamp>1256839860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In this day and age, a 512Mb file is not really big. A typical<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.iso or movie rip exceeds that amount.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In this day and age , a 512Mb file is not really big .
A typical .iso or movie rip exceeds that amount .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In this day and age, a 512Mb file is not really big.
A typical .iso or movie rip exceeds that amount.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29916835</id>
	<title>UBUNTU doesn't mention linux or GNU</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256812260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As anyone noticed the first page of Ubuntu doesn't contain any mention to Linux, or GNU.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>What is Ubuntu?</p><p>Ubuntu is an operating system built by a worldwide team of expert developers. It contains all the applications you need: a web browser, office suite, media apps, instant messaging and much more.</p><p>Ubuntu is an open-source alternative to Windows and Office.</p></div><p>Even after you press the "take-the-tour" or the "Embrace the Ubuntu Philosophy" button's, there's still nor reference to Linux or GNU.</p><p>&gt;&gt; Posted as AC because of previous mod on this page</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As anyone noticed the first page of Ubuntu does n't contain any mention to Linux , or GNU.What is Ubuntu ? Ubuntu is an operating system built by a worldwide team of expert developers .
It contains all the applications you need : a web browser , office suite , media apps , instant messaging and much more.Ubuntu is an open-source alternative to Windows and Office.Even after you press the " take-the-tour " or the " Embrace the Ubuntu Philosophy " button 's , there 's still nor reference to Linux or GNU. &gt; &gt; Posted as AC because of previous mod on this page</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As anyone noticed the first page of Ubuntu doesn't contain any mention to Linux, or GNU.What is Ubuntu?Ubuntu is an operating system built by a worldwide team of expert developers.
It contains all the applications you need: a web browser, office suite, media apps, instant messaging and much more.Ubuntu is an open-source alternative to Windows and Office.Even after you press the "take-the-tour" or the "Embrace the Ubuntu Philosophy" button's, there's still nor reference to Linux or GNU.&gt;&gt; Posted as AC because of previous mod on this page
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911143</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>ZarathustraDK</author>
	<datestamp>1256834220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No kidding, in the MS bus the front seat is also "the back of the bus", go sit there, consumer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No kidding , in the MS bus the front seat is also " the back of the bus " , go sit there , consumer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No kidding, in the MS bus the front seat is also "the back of the bus", go sit there, consumer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911937</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Abreu</author>
	<datestamp>1256837100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll take <b>both</b> the 2 gigs <b>and</b> Ubuntu, thanks!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll take both the 2 gigs and Ubuntu , thanks !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll take both the 2 gigs and Ubuntu, thanks!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910867</id>
	<title>Re:USB install</title>
	<author>$tefan</author>
	<datestamp>1256833140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/" title="sourceforge.net" rel="nofollow">UNetbootin</a> [sourceforge.net] can create a bootable Live USB drive from ISO images (also requires a USB thumb drive of course)</htmltext>
<tokenext>UNetbootin [ sourceforge.net ] can create a bootable Live USB drive from ISO images ( also requires a USB thumb drive of course )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>UNetbootin [sourceforge.net] can create a bootable Live USB drive from ISO images (also requires a USB thumb drive of course)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909535</id>
	<title>Obligitory Culture Club</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256827920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Karmic Karmic Karmic Karmic Karmic Koala<br>Download and install<br>Download and innnnnstaaaalllllll....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Karmic Karmic Karmic Karmic Karmic KoalaDownload and installDownload and innnnnstaaaalllllll... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Karmic Karmic Karmic Karmic Karmic KoalaDownload and installDownload and innnnnstaaaalllllll....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909835</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256829240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Flash has been available for many versions already...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Flash has been available for many versions already.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Flash has been available for many versions already...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912813</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>Beardo the Bearded</author>
	<datestamp>1256840160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Great, you can use this certificate:</p><p><a href="http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000818.html" title="codinghorror.com">http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000818.html</a> [codinghorror.com]</p><p>I've struggled mightily with my Radeon 9200 video card under Ubuntu. I don't get any acceleration. Often the resolution goes back to default VESA, at 800 x 600 @ 60Hz. Irritating but livable.</p><p>Viewing any Flash movies ends the browsing session, taking all resources and preventing any other loads. The only way to fix it is to close the tab. If I didn't have Flashblock, surfing would be impossible. No Flash. Think about that for a minute.</p><p>Yes, I've installed the proprietary drivers AND the Flash drivers. I'm not an idiot. I have a fair bit of Unix / Linux experience.</p><p>Support has ranged from "lol get a better card" to "ATI has proprietary drivers and doesn't work under Ubuntu. It's their fault for not supporting a GPL framework" to "your computer is too old and you should buy another one". I note that Voodoo cards are supported.</p><p>So realistically, the attitude is "buy $100 - $500 worth of stuff that may or may not work in order to get the free program to work."</p><p>Personally, I'm looking forward to when my wife gets her new laptop so I can get the XP licence back and actually be able to use my computer. Ubuntu's been a pain in the ass for the last two years, and I'm sick of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Great , you can use this certificate : http : //www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000818.html [ codinghorror.com ] I 've struggled mightily with my Radeon 9200 video card under Ubuntu .
I do n't get any acceleration .
Often the resolution goes back to default VESA , at 800 x 600 @ 60Hz .
Irritating but livable.Viewing any Flash movies ends the browsing session , taking all resources and preventing any other loads .
The only way to fix it is to close the tab .
If I did n't have Flashblock , surfing would be impossible .
No Flash .
Think about that for a minute.Yes , I 've installed the proprietary drivers AND the Flash drivers .
I 'm not an idiot .
I have a fair bit of Unix / Linux experience.Support has ranged from " lol get a better card " to " ATI has proprietary drivers and does n't work under Ubuntu .
It 's their fault for not supporting a GPL framework " to " your computer is too old and you should buy another one " .
I note that Voodoo cards are supported.So realistically , the attitude is " buy $ 100 - $ 500 worth of stuff that may or may not work in order to get the free program to work .
" Personally , I 'm looking forward to when my wife gets her new laptop so I can get the XP licence back and actually be able to use my computer .
Ubuntu 's been a pain in the ass for the last two years , and I 'm sick of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great, you can use this certificate:http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000818.html [codinghorror.com]I've struggled mightily with my Radeon 9200 video card under Ubuntu.
I don't get any acceleration.
Often the resolution goes back to default VESA, at 800 x 600 @ 60Hz.
Irritating but livable.Viewing any Flash movies ends the browsing session, taking all resources and preventing any other loads.
The only way to fix it is to close the tab.
If I didn't have Flashblock, surfing would be impossible.
No Flash.
Think about that for a minute.Yes, I've installed the proprietary drivers AND the Flash drivers.
I'm not an idiot.
I have a fair bit of Unix / Linux experience.Support has ranged from "lol get a better card" to "ATI has proprietary drivers and doesn't work under Ubuntu.
It's their fault for not supporting a GPL framework" to "your computer is too old and you should buy another one".
I note that Voodoo cards are supported.So realistically, the attitude is "buy $100 - $500 worth of stuff that may or may not work in order to get the free program to work.
"Personally, I'm looking forward to when my wife gets her new laptop so I can get the XP licence back and actually be able to use my computer.
Ubuntu's been a pain in the ass for the last two years, and I'm sick of it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910215</id>
	<title>ITS HERE!!!</title>
	<author>Conzar</author>
	<datestamp>1256830860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Canonical has updated their home page
<a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ubuntu.com/</a> [ubuntu.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Canonical has updated their home page http : //www.ubuntu.com/ [ ubuntu.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Canonical has updated their home page
http://www.ubuntu.com/ [ubuntu.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910775</id>
	<title>Re:USB install</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256832840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes.</p><p>Treat USB stick as hard drive, the installation procedure is the same. However, the process is very slow.</p><p>8GB is enough, but I recommend 16GB.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes.Treat USB stick as hard drive , the installation procedure is the same .
However , the process is very slow.8GB is enough , but I recommend 16GB .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.Treat USB stick as hard drive, the installation procedure is the same.
However, the process is very slow.8GB is enough, but I recommend 16GB.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910037</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256830140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i ran xubuntu with 96MB on a 400MHz laptop under a year ago. Wasn't what you could say fast by today's standards, but usable for basic net surfing and email. Had ubuntu 8.04 on a 256MB desktop machine a few years back used it for video editing (raw dv)  and rarely needed more memory. Have 2GB now on both my laptop and desktop machines, don't think i'll be needing more anytime soon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i ran xubuntu with 96MB on a 400MHz laptop under a year ago .
Was n't what you could say fast by today 's standards , but usable for basic net surfing and email .
Had ubuntu 8.04 on a 256MB desktop machine a few years back used it for video editing ( raw dv ) and rarely needed more memory .
Have 2GB now on both my laptop and desktop machines , do n't think i 'll be needing more anytime soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i ran xubuntu with 96MB on a 400MHz laptop under a year ago.
Wasn't what you could say fast by today's standards, but usable for basic net surfing and email.
Had ubuntu 8.04 on a 256MB desktop machine a few years back used it for video editing (raw dv)  and rarely needed more memory.
Have 2GB now on both my laptop and desktop machines, don't think i'll be needing more anytime soon.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911629</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256836020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Funny thing, I am running Win7 Ultimate on my EEE here with 1GB of ram and have so far felt absolutely no need to get 2GB, it has been running great and very little if any noticeable issues from running with only 1GB. Only 600MBish used now, with almost 100MB from Firefox.  I just use my netbook as a netbook, for browsing, notes, and some IRC.</p><p>My workstation on the other hand has 6GB and seems just about perfect with Win 7 Ultimate (remember it's used as a workstation, not a desktop).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny thing , I am running Win7 Ultimate on my EEE here with 1GB of ram and have so far felt absolutely no need to get 2GB , it has been running great and very little if any noticeable issues from running with only 1GB .
Only 600MBish used now , with almost 100MB from Firefox .
I just use my netbook as a netbook , for browsing , notes , and some IRC.My workstation on the other hand has 6GB and seems just about perfect with Win 7 Ultimate ( remember it 's used as a workstation , not a desktop ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny thing, I am running Win7 Ultimate on my EEE here with 1GB of ram and have so far felt absolutely no need to get 2GB, it has been running great and very little if any noticeable issues from running with only 1GB.
Only 600MBish used now, with almost 100MB from Firefox.
I just use my netbook as a netbook, for browsing, notes, and some IRC.My workstation on the other hand has 6GB and seems just about perfect with Win 7 Ultimate (remember it's used as a workstation, not a desktop).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29960516</id>
	<title>Re:Do we really need...</title>
	<author>kbielefe</author>
	<datestamp>1257189600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an idea.  Why don't they release LTS versions every two years, but support them for, say, three years on the desktop and five on the server, so you can take your time upgrading?  Oh wait, that's what they already do.  It's posts like these that I can never figure out if the poster is clueless or deliberately trying to mislead people.  Or option 3:  hubris leads him to see himself in the "bleeding edge" group of users, but he is frustrated at his inability to actually maintain a stable system with bleeding edge applications, so he lashes out at the people who know what they're doing but are "holding out" on him, relegating him to stable, albeit slightly outdated software.</p><p>OEMs use the LTS versions.  My wife has one, precisely because she doesn't want her computer's OS reconfigured every 6 months, even though the other computers in the house are.  Do you think she cares about what version of openoffice.org it runs, as long as security updates are current?  You realize the <em>newest</em> MS office was released a full <em>year</em> before the last Ubuntu LTS release?  I still haven't seen Office 2007 in person.  Everyone I know with office uses 2003 or earlier, including my own workplace.  That's <b>6 years old</b>.  You might want to rethink your conception of "most non-techie users."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an idea .
Why do n't they release LTS versions every two years , but support them for , say , three years on the desktop and five on the server , so you can take your time upgrading ?
Oh wait , that 's what they already do .
It 's posts like these that I can never figure out if the poster is clueless or deliberately trying to mislead people .
Or option 3 : hubris leads him to see himself in the " bleeding edge " group of users , but he is frustrated at his inability to actually maintain a stable system with bleeding edge applications , so he lashes out at the people who know what they 're doing but are " holding out " on him , relegating him to stable , albeit slightly outdated software.OEMs use the LTS versions .
My wife has one , precisely because she does n't want her computer 's OS reconfigured every 6 months , even though the other computers in the house are .
Do you think she cares about what version of openoffice.org it runs , as long as security updates are current ?
You realize the newest MS office was released a full year before the last Ubuntu LTS release ?
I still have n't seen Office 2007 in person .
Everyone I know with office uses 2003 or earlier , including my own workplace .
That 's 6 years old .
You might want to rethink your conception of " most non-techie users .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an idea.
Why don't they release LTS versions every two years, but support them for, say, three years on the desktop and five on the server, so you can take your time upgrading?
Oh wait, that's what they already do.
It's posts like these that I can never figure out if the poster is clueless or deliberately trying to mislead people.
Or option 3:  hubris leads him to see himself in the "bleeding edge" group of users, but he is frustrated at his inability to actually maintain a stable system with bleeding edge applications, so he lashes out at the people who know what they're doing but are "holding out" on him, relegating him to stable, albeit slightly outdated software.OEMs use the LTS versions.
My wife has one, precisely because she doesn't want her computer's OS reconfigured every 6 months, even though the other computers in the house are.
Do you think she cares about what version of openoffice.org it runs, as long as security updates are current?
You realize the newest MS office was released a full year before the last Ubuntu LTS release?
I still haven't seen Office 2007 in person.
Everyone I know with office uses 2003 or earlier, including my own workplace.
That's 6 years old.
You might want to rethink your conception of "most non-techie users.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29915953</id>
	<title>Re:How to get Ubuntu 9?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256809320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You don't need to do it with Ubuntu either. I just edit the sources list, to swap out the release name then..<br>sudo aptitude update<br>sudo aptitude -f full-upgrade</p><p>Saves you from getting all the unwanted apps reinstalled.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't need to do it with Ubuntu either .
I just edit the sources list , to swap out the release name then..sudo aptitude updatesudo aptitude -f full-upgradeSaves you from getting all the unwanted apps reinstalled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't need to do it with Ubuntu either.
I just edit the sources list, to swap out the release name then..sudo aptitude updatesudo aptitude -f full-upgradeSaves you from getting all the unwanted apps reinstalled.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911411</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime T</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256835240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Grub2 is on my Gentoo. It's just hard masked.</p><p>Although Grub2 has a funny version, if you go to the webpage you'll see it's on version 1.97 (as in not quite 2) and if you eix it you'll see ~1.97.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Grub2 is on my Gentoo .
It 's just hard masked.Although Grub2 has a funny version , if you go to the webpage you 'll see it 's on version 1.97 ( as in not quite 2 ) and if you eix it you 'll see ~ 1.97 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Grub2 is on my Gentoo.
It's just hard masked.Although Grub2 has a funny version, if you go to the webpage you'll see it's on version 1.97 (as in not quite 2) and if you eix it you'll see ~1.97.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29918715</id>
	<title>VDPAU enabled media player?</title>
	<author>Taibhsear</author>
	<datestamp>1256821920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does anyone know if mplayer or vlc or any other media players will have vdpau or hardware acceleration installed by default in this version of Ubuntu? It was supposed to be in Jaunty but never was. I could compile it myself but it's a pain in the ass and I just want the system to work out of the box. I just want to double click on my 720p and 1080p mkv files and have them load and run smooth without manually adjusting 80 different settings, compiling my own player, and doing a jig while crossing my fingers and praying to our Noodley overlord to get it to work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone know if mplayer or vlc or any other media players will have vdpau or hardware acceleration installed by default in this version of Ubuntu ?
It was supposed to be in Jaunty but never was .
I could compile it myself but it 's a pain in the ass and I just want the system to work out of the box .
I just want to double click on my 720p and 1080p mkv files and have them load and run smooth without manually adjusting 80 different settings , compiling my own player , and doing a jig while crossing my fingers and praying to our Noodley overlord to get it to work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone know if mplayer or vlc or any other media players will have vdpau or hardware acceleration installed by default in this version of Ubuntu?
It was supposed to be in Jaunty but never was.
I could compile it myself but it's a pain in the ass and I just want the system to work out of the box.
I just want to double click on my 720p and 1080p mkv files and have them load and run smooth without manually adjusting 80 different settings, compiling my own player, and doing a jig while crossing my fingers and praying to our Noodley overlord to get it to work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912893</id>
	<title>Radeon X1300</title>
	<author>jwhitener</author>
	<datestamp>1256840400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I haven't read up on 9.10 yet, but I'm hoping it supports<br>03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV516 [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series]</p><p>Better than 9.04 did.  That was a complete mess, and left older radeon card users scrambling for the best solution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't read up on 9.10 yet , but I 'm hoping it supports03 : 00.0 VGA compatible controller : ATI Technologies Inc RV516 [ Radeon X1300/X1550 Series ] Better than 9.04 did .
That was a complete mess , and left older radeon card users scrambling for the best solution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't read up on 9.10 yet, but I'm hoping it supports03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV516 [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series]Better than 9.04 did.
That was a complete mess, and left older radeon card users scrambling for the best solution.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909869</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>JacobSteelsmith</author>
	<datestamp>1256829420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
<br> <br>
Thanks, Ubuntu!</htmltext>
<tokenext>$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree Thanks , Ubuntu !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
 
Thanks, Ubuntu!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910293</id>
	<title>A suggestion...</title>
	<author>MonsterTrimble</author>
	<datestamp>1256831100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>from a long time *buntu user (Edgy Eft):<br>
<br>
<b>Don't download it yet!</b> <br>
<br>
Ubuntu's repository servers time and time again get kicked in the balls on release day. You will wait two days minimum to get the upgrade done. PLUS there are some pretty nasty bugs which cause all sorts of havoc once they get officially released. I have never had a dist-upgrade go clean and always had to reinstall. Please resist the urge to jump at the brand new and shiny. Wait until Monday or Tuesday. And back up your sources.list, samba, bookmarks and newsfeeds.<br>
<br>
That being said, I generally like Kubuntu's Karmic Koala. I've been running it since Beta 1 and while not mind blowing, it's pretty good. It's a 'stay the course' release.</htmltext>
<tokenext>from a long time * buntu user ( Edgy Eft ) : Do n't download it yet !
Ubuntu 's repository servers time and time again get kicked in the balls on release day .
You will wait two days minimum to get the upgrade done .
PLUS there are some pretty nasty bugs which cause all sorts of havoc once they get officially released .
I have never had a dist-upgrade go clean and always had to reinstall .
Please resist the urge to jump at the brand new and shiny .
Wait until Monday or Tuesday .
And back up your sources.list , samba , bookmarks and newsfeeds .
That being said , I generally like Kubuntu 's Karmic Koala .
I 've been running it since Beta 1 and while not mind blowing , it 's pretty good .
It 's a 'stay the course ' release .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>from a long time *buntu user (Edgy Eft):

Don't download it yet!
Ubuntu's repository servers time and time again get kicked in the balls on release day.
You will wait two days minimum to get the upgrade done.
PLUS there are some pretty nasty bugs which cause all sorts of havoc once they get officially released.
I have never had a dist-upgrade go clean and always had to reinstall.
Please resist the urge to jump at the brand new and shiny.
Wait until Monday or Tuesday.
And back up your sources.list, samba, bookmarks and newsfeeds.
That being said, I generally like Kubuntu's Karmic Koala.
I've been running it since Beta 1 and while not mind blowing, it's pretty good.
It's a 'stay the course' release.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911331</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256834940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My experience with Flash in Ubuntu was far from that smooth..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My experience with Flash in Ubuntu was far from that smooth. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My experience with Flash in Ubuntu was far from that smooth..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909947</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909249</id>
	<title>Personal Cloud...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256826540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is that kind of like your own personal Internet?</p><p>Do its pipes get filled with enormous amounts of materiel?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that kind of like your own personal Internet ? Do its pipes get filled with enormous amounts of materiel ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that kind of like your own personal Internet?Do its pipes get filled with enormous amounts of materiel?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909329</id>
	<title>It's FREE! as long as...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256826960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ubuntu it's free as long as you dont value your time. Nice!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubuntu it 's free as long as you dont value your time .
Nice !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ubuntu it's free as long as you dont value your time.
Nice!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910249</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>shentino</author>
	<datestamp>1256830980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You have to install the plugin under windows too...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have to install the plugin under windows too.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have to install the plugin under windows too...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909749</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910315</id>
	<title>UNABLE TO DOWNLOAD NETBOOK REMIX</title>
	<author>Sadaiyappan</author>
	<datestamp>1256831160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The links for netbook remix don't work</htmltext>
<tokenext>The links for netbook remix do n't work</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The links for netbook remix don't work</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909473</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1256827620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>The era of Netbooks is upon us, and it looks like Microsoft will miss the bus.</i>
<br>
<br>
The first generation of netbooks ran linux.  Just about everything after that ran windows.  Sounds like linux will miss the bus.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The era of Netbooks is upon us , and it looks like Microsoft will miss the bus .
The first generation of netbooks ran linux .
Just about everything after that ran windows .
Sounds like linux will miss the bus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The era of Netbooks is upon us, and it looks like Microsoft will miss the bus.
The first generation of netbooks ran linux.
Just about everything after that ran windows.
Sounds like linux will miss the bus.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909265</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29918817</id>
	<title>Win7 vs Ubuntu</title>
	<author>icsx</author>
	<datestamp>1256822400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well i guess the Ubuntu will lose the Windows 7 release.. <a href="http://kuvaton.com/bshit/1\_linus\_torvalds.jpg" title="kuvaton.com" rel="nofollow">Even Linus approves it. </a> [kuvaton.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well i guess the Ubuntu will lose the Windows 7 release.. Even Linus approves it .
[ kuvaton.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well i guess the Ubuntu will lose the Windows 7 release.. Even Linus approves it.
[kuvaton.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911183</id>
	<title>Re:USB install</title>
	<author>ajlitt</author>
	<datestamp>1256834400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get <a href="http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/" title="sourceforge.net">unetbootin</a> [sourceforge.net].  It will download the ISO and jam it on a USB stick for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get unetbootin [ sourceforge.net ] .
It will download the ISO and jam it on a USB stick for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get unetbootin [sourceforge.net].
It will download the ISO and jam it on a USB stick for you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910011</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913443</id>
	<title>Re:Samba?</title>
	<author>Luke has no name</author>
	<datestamp>1256842740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't point them to the community page, point them to this: <a href="http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html</a> [ubuntu.com]</p><p>The official server help doc. Not the best, but better than what you linked to.</p><p>GUI's are nice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't point them to the community page , point them to this : http : //doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html [ ubuntu.com ] The official server help doc .
Not the best , but better than what you linked to.GUI 's are nice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't point them to the community page, point them to this: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html [ubuntu.com]The official server help doc.
Not the best, but better than what you linked to.GUI's are nice.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910071</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29917051</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu One: Secret Plans?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256813100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tomboy sync and Addressbook syncing are also available in Karmic, so it's more than just a dropbox clone already.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tomboy sync and Addressbook syncing are also available in Karmic , so it 's more than just a dropbox clone already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tomboy sync and Addressbook syncing are also available in Karmic, so it's more than just a dropbox clone already.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910179</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911795</id>
	<title>Re:KDE summary: usable but not great. I'll pass.</title>
	<author>Andy Dodd</author>
	<datestamp>1256836440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been perfectly happy with the state of KDE in 9.04, with the exception of the network manager was quite annoying in that release.</p><p>It's vastly improved and I'm very happy with it in 9.10 - 9.10 fixed basically every wireless problem I had except for one PEBCAK issue.  (I never realized that the "password" they gave me at one of my favorite places to eat was actually a valid 40-bit WEP key and not a passphrase.  Windows automatically detects this and tries it as a key instead of a passphrase, Ubuntu does not.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been perfectly happy with the state of KDE in 9.04 , with the exception of the network manager was quite annoying in that release.It 's vastly improved and I 'm very happy with it in 9.10 - 9.10 fixed basically every wireless problem I had except for one PEBCAK issue .
( I never realized that the " password " they gave me at one of my favorite places to eat was actually a valid 40-bit WEP key and not a passphrase .
Windows automatically detects this and tries it as a key instead of a passphrase , Ubuntu does not .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been perfectly happy with the state of KDE in 9.04, with the exception of the network manager was quite annoying in that release.It's vastly improved and I'm very happy with it in 9.10 - 9.10 fixed basically every wireless problem I had except for one PEBCAK issue.
(I never realized that the "password" they gave me at one of my favorite places to eat was actually a valid 40-bit WEP key and not a passphrase.
Windows automatically detects this and tries it as a key instead of a passphrase, Ubuntu does not.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29915405</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime T</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256807220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been running ext4 for a long time and have not had a problem - yet. knock on wood.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been running ext4 for a long time and have not had a problem - yet .
knock on wood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been running ext4 for a long time and have not had a problem - yet.
knock on wood.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909469</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911367</id>
	<title>Re:Personal Cloud...</title>
	<author>Sancho</author>
	<datestamp>1256835060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know that Slashdot is going down hill when a perfectly reasonable comment asking for more information is replied to by three sarcastic comments about tubes, trucks, and pipes.</p><p>Ubuntu One looks like it uses other Ubuntu One users to store up to 2GB of data (hopefully securely) in a cloud-like state, e.g. with redundancy so that one failure doesn't cause you to lose those backups.  I got that from a brief look at <a href="https://one.ubuntu.com/" title="ubuntu.com">https://one.ubuntu.com/</a> [ubuntu.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know that Slashdot is going down hill when a perfectly reasonable comment asking for more information is replied to by three sarcastic comments about tubes , trucks , and pipes.Ubuntu One looks like it uses other Ubuntu One users to store up to 2GB of data ( hopefully securely ) in a cloud-like state , e.g .
with redundancy so that one failure does n't cause you to lose those backups .
I got that from a brief look at https : //one.ubuntu.com/ [ ubuntu.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know that Slashdot is going down hill when a perfectly reasonable comment asking for more information is replied to by three sarcastic comments about tubes, trucks, and pipes.Ubuntu One looks like it uses other Ubuntu One users to store up to 2GB of data (hopefully securely) in a cloud-like state, e.g.
with redundancy so that one failure doesn't cause you to lose those backups.
I got that from a brief look at https://one.ubuntu.com/ [ubuntu.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909249</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29920197</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256832600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You should try Puppy. Before you laugh, consider the fact that I'm typing from a Dell CPx with a 350Mhz PIIIm, 128Mb of RAM, no hard disk (it failed) running off a Puppy CD.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You should try Puppy .
Before you laugh , consider the fact that I 'm typing from a Dell CPx with a 350Mhz PIIIm , 128Mb of RAM , no hard disk ( it failed ) running off a Puppy CD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should try Puppy.
Before you laugh, consider the fact that I'm typing from a Dell CPx with a 350Mhz PIIIm, 128Mb of RAM, no hard disk (it failed) running off a Puppy CD.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911229</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29930547</id>
	<title>Re:USB install</title>
	<author>kcbnac</author>
	<datestamp>1256907540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you already have Jaunty, download the ISO.  System-&gt;Administration-&gt;USB Startup Disk Creator</p><p>Point at ISO, point at USB stick.  Demand it Make It So.</p><p>If you don't have Jaunty, use unetbootin as suggested by others.  (Or, boot ISO in a virtual machine, if you have access to USB devices via your VM solution)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you already have Jaunty , download the ISO .
System- &gt; Administration- &gt; USB Startup Disk CreatorPoint at ISO , point at USB stick .
Demand it Make It So.If you do n't have Jaunty , use unetbootin as suggested by others .
( Or , boot ISO in a virtual machine , if you have access to USB devices via your VM solution )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you already have Jaunty, download the ISO.
System-&gt;Administration-&gt;USB Startup Disk CreatorPoint at ISO, point at USB stick.
Demand it Make It So.If you don't have Jaunty, use unetbootin as suggested by others.
(Or, boot ISO in a virtual machine, if you have access to USB devices via your VM solution)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910011</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909563</id>
	<title>Re:Personal Cloud...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256828100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Is that kind of like your own personal Internet?</p><p>Do its pipes get filled with enormous amounts of materiel?</p></div><p>Internet is a series of <i>tubes</i>, not pipes. That would be plumbing, silly man.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that kind of like your own personal Internet ? Do its pipes get filled with enormous amounts of materiel ? Internet is a series of tubes , not pipes .
That would be plumbing , silly man .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that kind of like your own personal Internet?Do its pipes get filled with enormous amounts of materiel?Internet is a series of tubes, not pipes.
That would be plumbing, silly man.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909249</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910425</id>
	<title>Re:DANGER! DO NOT Install 9.10 with ext4! (if at a</title>
	<author>Yosho</author>
	<datestamp>1256831520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Between the increasing mess of 8.10 and 9.04</p></div><p>Of of curiosity, what do you mean by "the increasing mess"?  I've got 9.04 installed on multiple systems and haven't had any problems with it.</p><p>(to be fair, I use XFS for all my filesystems)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Between the increasing mess of 8.10 and 9.04Of of curiosity , what do you mean by " the increasing mess " ?
I 've got 9.04 installed on multiple systems and have n't had any problems with it .
( to be fair , I use XFS for all my filesystems )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Between the increasing mess of 8.10 and 9.04Of of curiosity, what do you mean by "the increasing mess"?
I've got 9.04 installed on multiple systems and haven't had any problems with it.
(to be fair, I use XFS for all my filesystems)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910163</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29914905</id>
	<title>torrent.ubuntu.com</title>
	<author>imtheguru</author>
	<datestamp>1256848440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://torrent.ubuntu.com/" title="ubuntu.com">http://torrent.ubuntu.com/</a> [ubuntu.com]<br>Standard ubuntu is under 'releases'.</p><p>Cheers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //torrent.ubuntu.com/ [ ubuntu.com ] Standard ubuntu is under 'releases'.Cheers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://torrent.ubuntu.com/ [ubuntu.com]Standard ubuntu is under 'releases'.Cheers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910411</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29919011</id>
	<title>Re:KDE summary: usable but not great. I'll pass.</title>
	<author>JacobSteelsmith</author>
	<datestamp>1256823300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have been using kubuntu since the days of 3.5. I love KDE 4. In my opinion, it will be the desktop of the future. In fact, after using Windows 7 all this week, I'm pretty sure it's what Microsoft was aiming for. I use Kubuntu 40 hours a day in a Microsoft environment, joined to the domain, and I have yet to run into a show stopper, or a bug that wasn't easily fixed. KDE 4 has made tremendous strides and has laid the framework to do great things in the future, while being stable and feature-full enough to be my daily driver. And it is as aesthetically pleasing productivity enhancing as desktop environments get.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have been using kubuntu since the days of 3.5 .
I love KDE 4 .
In my opinion , it will be the desktop of the future .
In fact , after using Windows 7 all this week , I 'm pretty sure it 's what Microsoft was aiming for .
I use Kubuntu 40 hours a day in a Microsoft environment , joined to the domain , and I have yet to run into a show stopper , or a bug that was n't easily fixed .
KDE 4 has made tremendous strides and has laid the framework to do great things in the future , while being stable and feature-full enough to be my daily driver .
And it is as aesthetically pleasing productivity enhancing as desktop environments get .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have been using kubuntu since the days of 3.5.
I love KDE 4.
In my opinion, it will be the desktop of the future.
In fact, after using Windows 7 all this week, I'm pretty sure it's what Microsoft was aiming for.
I use Kubuntu 40 hours a day in a Microsoft environment, joined to the domain, and I have yet to run into a show stopper, or a bug that wasn't easily fixed.
KDE 4 has made tremendous strides and has laid the framework to do great things in the future, while being stable and feature-full enough to be my daily driver.
And it is as aesthetically pleasing productivity enhancing as desktop environments get.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909909</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>tokul</author>
	<datestamp>1256829600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Of course, that's Adobe's fault, or ATI's fault.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
What Adobe or ATI has to do with the fact that you can't install flashplugin-installer package?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , that 's Adobe 's fault , or ATI 's fault .
What Adobe or ATI has to do with the fact that you ca n't install flashplugin-installer package ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, that's Adobe's fault, or ATI's fault.
What Adobe or ATI has to do with the fact that you can't install flashplugin-installer package?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909749</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909873</id>
	<title>Re:no it wasnt..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256829420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This link is for the pre releases, it's not official until the main download page swaps over</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This link is for the pre releases , it 's not official until the main download page swaps over</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This link is for the pre releases, it's not official until the main download page swaps over</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909475</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910449</id>
	<title>BitTorrent links</title>
	<author>praseodym</author>
	<datestamp>1256831640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since the Ubuntu BitTorrent-page is not yet updated, here are the links to the official torrents:<br> <br>

<a href="http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent</a> [ubuntu.com] <br>
<a href="http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent</a> [ubuntu.com] <br> <br>

<a href="http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-netbook-remix-i386.iso.torrent" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-netbook-remix-i386.iso.torrent</a> [ubuntu.com] <br> <br>

<a href="http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-i386.iso.torrent" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-i386.iso.torrent</a> [ubuntu.com] <br>
<a href="http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-amd64.iso.torrent" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-amd64.iso.torrent</a> [ubuntu.com] <br> <br>

<a href="http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent</a> [ubuntu.com] <br>
<a href="http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent</a> [ubuntu.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since the Ubuntu BitTorrent-page is not yet updated , here are the links to the official torrents : http : //releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [ ubuntu.com ] http : //releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [ ubuntu.com ] http : //releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-netbook-remix-i386.iso.torrent [ ubuntu.com ] http : //releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-i386.iso.torrent [ ubuntu.com ] http : //releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-amd64.iso.torrent [ ubuntu.com ] http : //releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent [ ubuntu.com ] http : //releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent [ ubuntu.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since the Ubuntu BitTorrent-page is not yet updated, here are the links to the official torrents: 

http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com] 
http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]  

http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-netbook-remix-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]  

http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com] 
http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]  

http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com] 
http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910163</id>
	<title>DANGER! DO NOT Install 9.10 with ext4! (if at all)</title>
	<author>Concern</author>
	<datestamp>1256830620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Amazingly, if you click on the <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">release notes</a> [ubuntu.com] link all the way down at the bottom of the "cool new features" page, and read about 2/3 of the way down that page, oh yeah by the way:</p><p><b>Possible corruption of large files with ext4 filesystem</b></p><p><i>There have been some reports of data corruption with fresh (not upgraded) ext4 file systems using the Ubuntu 9.10 kernel when writing to large files (over 512MB). The issue is under investigation, and if confirmed will be resolved in a post-release update. Users who routinely manipulate large files may want to consider using ext3 file systems until this issue is resolved. (<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/453579" title="launchpad.net" rel="nofollow">453579</a> [launchpad.net])</i></p><p>What... the... fuck... are these morons thinking. <b>They make ext4 their default filesystem,</b> and release to the world with a bug like this open. I don't care whether they charge for this, give it away for free, or pay people to use it. This is not a release, it's an ugly prank. A giant fuck you to the entire world. "Hey, here's an awesome free OS! Just kidding it eats your files, lulz!!!!"</p><p>How hard is it to put a giant warning label ("MAY EAT YOUR FILES, TBD") on the front page? Why not just say, whoops the release will be late, sorry? What is it about their ego that makes it more important than peoples' data? You don't have to do work for free, just don't fucking <i>trick</i> people!</p><p>Between the increasing mess of 8.10 and 9.04, and this debacle, I am just losing all respect for Canonical.</p><p>Also, btw, the whole story is wrong and 9.10 is not available for download yet. Thank god.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Amazingly , if you click on the release notes [ ubuntu.com ] link all the way down at the bottom of the " cool new features " page , and read about 2/3 of the way down that page , oh yeah by the way : Possible corruption of large files with ext4 filesystemThere have been some reports of data corruption with fresh ( not upgraded ) ext4 file systems using the Ubuntu 9.10 kernel when writing to large files ( over 512MB ) .
The issue is under investigation , and if confirmed will be resolved in a post-release update .
Users who routinely manipulate large files may want to consider using ext3 file systems until this issue is resolved .
( 453579 [ launchpad.net ] ) What... the... fuck... are these morons thinking .
They make ext4 their default filesystem , and release to the world with a bug like this open .
I do n't care whether they charge for this , give it away for free , or pay people to use it .
This is not a release , it 's an ugly prank .
A giant fuck you to the entire world .
" Hey , here 's an awesome free OS !
Just kidding it eats your files , lulz ! ! ! !
" How hard is it to put a giant warning label ( " MAY EAT YOUR FILES , TBD " ) on the front page ?
Why not just say , whoops the release will be late , sorry ?
What is it about their ego that makes it more important than peoples ' data ?
You do n't have to do work for free , just do n't fucking trick people ! Between the increasing mess of 8.10 and 9.04 , and this debacle , I am just losing all respect for Canonical.Also , btw , the whole story is wrong and 9.10 is not available for download yet .
Thank god .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amazingly, if you click on the release notes [ubuntu.com] link all the way down at the bottom of the "cool new features" page, and read about 2/3 of the way down that page, oh yeah by the way:Possible corruption of large files with ext4 filesystemThere have been some reports of data corruption with fresh (not upgraded) ext4 file systems using the Ubuntu 9.10 kernel when writing to large files (over 512MB).
The issue is under investigation, and if confirmed will be resolved in a post-release update.
Users who routinely manipulate large files may want to consider using ext3 file systems until this issue is resolved.
(453579 [launchpad.net])What... the... fuck... are these morons thinking.
They make ext4 their default filesystem, and release to the world with a bug like this open.
I don't care whether they charge for this, give it away for free, or pay people to use it.
This is not a release, it's an ugly prank.
A giant fuck you to the entire world.
"Hey, here's an awesome free OS!
Just kidding it eats your files, lulz!!!!
"How hard is it to put a giant warning label ("MAY EAT YOUR FILES, TBD") on the front page?
Why not just say, whoops the release will be late, sorry?
What is it about their ego that makes it more important than peoples' data?
You don't have to do work for free, just don't fucking trick people!Between the increasing mess of 8.10 and 9.04, and this debacle, I am just losing all respect for Canonical.Also, btw, the whole story is wrong and 9.10 is not available for download yet.
Thank god.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913327</id>
	<title>Re:Do we really need...</title>
	<author>grumbel</author>
	<datestamp>1256842260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As Linux still lacks a proper standardized and userfriendly way to ship software or kernel drivers outside of the distribution we absolute need regular releases, as the alternative would be to be stuck with year old software and drivers which wouldn't support new hardware.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As Linux still lacks a proper standardized and userfriendly way to ship software or kernel drivers outside of the distribution we absolute need regular releases , as the alternative would be to be stuck with year old software and drivers which would n't support new hardware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As Linux still lacks a proper standardized and userfriendly way to ship software or kernel drivers outside of the distribution we absolute need regular releases, as the alternative would be to be stuck with year old software and drivers which wouldn't support new hardware.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911747</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913141</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256841360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not try Cruncheee or eeebuntu or something actually made for those things?</p><p>Cruncheee has Openbox and light applications. But it still is full desktop linux.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not try Cruncheee or eeebuntu or something actually made for those things ? Cruncheee has Openbox and light applications .
But it still is full desktop linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not try Cruncheee or eeebuntu or something actually made for those things?Cruncheee has Openbox and light applications.
But it still is full desktop linux.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909733</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911759</id>
	<title>Where do you get the IMG file for 9.10 UNR?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256836380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most netbooks don't have optical drives, so the ISO is pretty much useless.  v9.04 provided an IMG file that could be used to created a bootable USB flash, but I don't see that for v9.10.  Anyone know where the UNR IMG file is for this release?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most netbooks do n't have optical drives , so the ISO is pretty much useless .
v9.04 provided an IMG file that could be used to created a bootable USB flash , but I do n't see that for v9.10 .
Anyone know where the UNR IMG file is for this release ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most netbooks don't have optical drives, so the ISO is pretty much useless.
v9.04 provided an IMG file that could be used to created a bootable USB flash, but I don't see that for v9.10.
Anyone know where the UNR IMG file is for this release?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29920727</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>rapu</author>
	<datestamp>1256838960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>r200 cards should work fine using the open source driver. I used to have one. Ati (or AMD) has stopped supporting it with their proprietary drivers (they do that a lot, they just stopped supporting my new r430-based card!), but the open source driver should get the most out of r200 and r300 cards, and nowadays r400 and r500 too.
If you really want to use fglrx with your old Ati card, you need to get an ancient version from Ati's website. Ubuntu isn't going to offer old fglrx drivers based on your card model, because they typically wouldn't be compatible with new kernels and XServers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>r200 cards should work fine using the open source driver .
I used to have one .
Ati ( or AMD ) has stopped supporting it with their proprietary drivers ( they do that a lot , they just stopped supporting my new r430-based card !
) , but the open source driver should get the most out of r200 and r300 cards , and nowadays r400 and r500 too .
If you really want to use fglrx with your old Ati card , you need to get an ancient version from Ati 's website .
Ubuntu is n't going to offer old fglrx drivers based on your card model , because they typically would n't be compatible with new kernels and XServers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>r200 cards should work fine using the open source driver.
I used to have one.
Ati (or AMD) has stopped supporting it with their proprietary drivers (they do that a lot, they just stopped supporting my new r430-based card!
), but the open source driver should get the most out of r200 and r300 cards, and nowadays r400 and r500 too.
If you really want to use fglrx with your old Ati card, you need to get an ancient version from Ati's website.
Ubuntu isn't going to offer old fglrx drivers based on your card model, because they typically wouldn't be compatible with new kernels and XServers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912813</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911561</id>
	<title>Triple K</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256835780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kubuntu Karmic Koala - I predict a problem.<br>Now Ubuntu (or GNOME if you will) lovers got another argument in an endless fight<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kubuntu Karmic Koala - I predict a problem.Now Ubuntu ( or GNOME if you will ) lovers got another argument in an endless fight ; ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kubuntu Karmic Koala - I predict a problem.Now Ubuntu (or GNOME if you will) lovers got another argument in an endless fight ;).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911641</id>
	<title>Canonical does something right for a change</title>
	<author>petrus4</author>
	<datestamp>1256836020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18833" title="phoronix.com">http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18833</a> [phoronix.com]</p><p>The Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) Daemon is becoming obsolete, starting with Karmic Koala.  Apparently the plan is to augment udev.</p><p>This is what they should have done all along.  HAL was always a case of running another instance of udev when, in most cases, there was of course already one running; it doesn't do anything new, and simply adds complexity and extra resource usage, unnecessarily.</p><p>Ubuntu still needs to change a lot (scrap Upstart/clone FreeBSD init, get rid of DKMS, ideally get rid of crapt-get and clone ports, revert to OSS for sound, get rid of the insane scenario where GNOME is irremovably fused with virtually the entire rest of the system) in order to become a system I'd consider installing, but this is an important step in the right direction, and is a solution for what was truthfully, one of the major issues that I have traditionally had with Ubuntu.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php ? t = 18833 [ phoronix.com ] The Hardware Abstraction Layer ( HAL ) Daemon is becoming obsolete , starting with Karmic Koala .
Apparently the plan is to augment udev.This is what they should have done all along .
HAL was always a case of running another instance of udev when , in most cases , there was of course already one running ; it does n't do anything new , and simply adds complexity and extra resource usage , unnecessarily.Ubuntu still needs to change a lot ( scrap Upstart/clone FreeBSD init , get rid of DKMS , ideally get rid of crapt-get and clone ports , revert to OSS for sound , get rid of the insane scenario where GNOME is irremovably fused with virtually the entire rest of the system ) in order to become a system I 'd consider installing , but this is an important step in the right direction , and is a solution for what was truthfully , one of the major issues that I have traditionally had with Ubuntu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18833 [phoronix.com]The Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) Daemon is becoming obsolete, starting with Karmic Koala.
Apparently the plan is to augment udev.This is what they should have done all along.
HAL was always a case of running another instance of udev when, in most cases, there was of course already one running; it doesn't do anything new, and simply adds complexity and extra resource usage, unnecessarily.Ubuntu still needs to change a lot (scrap Upstart/clone FreeBSD init, get rid of DKMS, ideally get rid of crapt-get and clone ports, revert to OSS for sound, get rid of the insane scenario where GNOME is irremovably fused with virtually the entire rest of the system) in order to become a system I'd consider installing, but this is an important step in the right direction, and is a solution for what was truthfully, one of the major issues that I have traditionally had with Ubuntu.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911981</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>CSMatt</author>
	<datestamp>1256837280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's because the Xubuntu team (on Jaunty at least) decided to destroy all that is good and wonderful about Xfce to the point that <a href="http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7520/1.html" title="linux-mag.com">Ubuntu actually uses <em>less</em> recourses than Xubuntu.</a> [linux-mag.com]  I'd wait for Lubuntu to come out or do as another poster suggested and install LXDE from another Ubuntu flavor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's because the Xubuntu team ( on Jaunty at least ) decided to destroy all that is good and wonderful about Xfce to the point that Ubuntu actually uses less recourses than Xubuntu .
[ linux-mag.com ] I 'd wait for Lubuntu to come out or do as another poster suggested and install LXDE from another Ubuntu flavor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's because the Xubuntu team (on Jaunty at least) decided to destroy all that is good and wonderful about Xfce to the point that Ubuntu actually uses less recourses than Xubuntu.
[linux-mag.com]  I'd wait for Lubuntu to come out or do as another poster suggested and install LXDE from another Ubuntu flavor.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909527</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909999</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256830020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And if you have an ATI graphics card it's basically useless with the audio/video latency and the poor framerates.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And if you have an ATI graphics card it 's basically useless with the audio/video latency and the poor framerates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if you have an ATI graphics card it's basically useless with the audio/video latency and the poor framerates.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909835</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910197</id>
	<title>Re:time</title>
	<author>VGPowerlord</author>
	<datestamp>1256830800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's the same combination I have on my egaggul!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's the same combination I have on my egaggul !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's the same combination I have on my egaggul!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909253</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909721</id>
	<title>Re:FiRsT tRoUt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256828760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><b>I</b> am a fish!</p><p>Humanity towards monkeys!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am a fish ! Humanity towards monkeys !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am a fish!Humanity towards monkeys!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909243</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909351</id>
	<title>Re:How to get Ubuntu 9?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256827020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>See <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading</a> [ubuntu.com] for instructions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>See http : //www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [ ubuntu.com ] for instructions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [ubuntu.com] for instructions.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909267</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909939</id>
	<title>Torrent</title>
	<author>atisss</author>
	<datestamp>1256829720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Downloading upgrade CD from torrent right away.

I wonder when aptitude will do updates and upgrades transparently through bittorrent network</htmltext>
<tokenext>Downloading upgrade CD from torrent right away .
I wonder when aptitude will do updates and upgrades transparently through bittorrent network</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Downloading upgrade CD from torrent right away.
I wonder when aptitude will do updates and upgrades transparently through bittorrent network</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29917137</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256813460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually Netbooks installed with MS run XP not the then current released Vista, skipping over it just like everybody else did who had the option to (due to the aforementioned limits and aims).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually Netbooks installed with MS run XP not the then current released Vista , skipping over it just like everybody else did who had the option to ( due to the aforementioned limits and aims ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually Netbooks installed with MS run XP not the then current released Vista, skipping over it just like everybody else did who had the option to (due to the aforementioned limits and aims).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909473</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29919471</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu One: Secret Plans?</title>
	<author>socceroos</author>
	<datestamp>1256826660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>To reiterate what I've said before, Ubuntu One is a new service.
<br> <br>
The real benefits of Ubuntu One will be seen in the next LTS when we'll be able to sync a large amount of applications data and settings with your Ubuntu One account. Imagine not having to worry about re-setting up your email account, chat accounts, F-Spot data, Rhythmbox data/settings (and more) after a fresh install of the latest Ubuntu because all your settings were downloaded from your Ubuntu One account.
<br> <br>
To me, this service is going to become a must-have.</htmltext>
<tokenext>To reiterate what I 've said before , Ubuntu One is a new service .
The real benefits of Ubuntu One will be seen in the next LTS when we 'll be able to sync a large amount of applications data and settings with your Ubuntu One account .
Imagine not having to worry about re-setting up your email account , chat accounts , F-Spot data , Rhythmbox data/settings ( and more ) after a fresh install of the latest Ubuntu because all your settings were downloaded from your Ubuntu One account .
To me , this service is going to become a must-have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To reiterate what I've said before, Ubuntu One is a new service.
The real benefits of Ubuntu One will be seen in the next LTS when we'll be able to sync a large amount of applications data and settings with your Ubuntu One account.
Imagine not having to worry about re-setting up your email account, chat accounts, F-Spot data, Rhythmbox data/settings (and more) after a fresh install of the latest Ubuntu because all your settings were downloaded from your Ubuntu One account.
To me, this service is going to become a must-have.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910179</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910193</id>
	<title>Re:How to get Ubuntu 9?</title>
	<author>pinkushun</author>
	<datestamp>1256830740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you want to upgrade to the ext4 file system, or encrypting your<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/home with eCrypt, then a reinstall is well worth it. Otherwise it will take some extra well-researched steps to use those features.</p><p>I'm on 8.10, but will wait about 2 months before moving to Karmic, a clean install<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want to upgrade to the ext4 file system , or encrypting your /home with eCrypt , then a reinstall is well worth it .
Otherwise it will take some extra well-researched steps to use those features.I 'm on 8.10 , but will wait about 2 months before moving to Karmic , a clean install : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want to upgrade to the ext4 file system, or encrypting your /home with eCrypt, then a reinstall is well worth it.
Otherwise it will take some extra well-researched steps to use those features.I'm on 8.10, but will wait about 2 months before moving to Karmic, a clean install :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909267</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909297</id>
	<title>Not yet..</title>
	<author>pak9rabid</author>
	<datestamp>1256826780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Looks like somebody jumped the gun.  Download link is for 9.04 as of now...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like somebody jumped the gun .
Download link is for 9.04 as of now.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like somebody jumped the gun.
Download link is for 9.04 as of now...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909821</id>
	<title>Download Page updated</title>
	<author>citybird</author>
	<datestamp>1256829180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The download page has been updated to 9.10 but some of the mirror links still point to the Jaunty folder.
Use the backspace key<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>The download page has been updated to 9.10 but some of the mirror links still point to the Jaunty folder .
Use the backspace key : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The download page has been updated to 9.10 but some of the mirror links still point to the Jaunty folder.
Use the backspace key :-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912657</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Zerth</author>
	<datestamp>1256839560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where are you getting Smartq7s for $170? That sounds cheap.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where are you getting Smartq7s for $ 170 ?
That sounds cheap .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where are you getting Smartq7s for $170?
That sounds cheap.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910395</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911153</id>
	<title>Buzzword bingo?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1256834280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud images, the Ubuntu One "personal cloud"</p></div><p>Oh-oh, we're getting dangerously close to a full set of buzzwords...</p><p>What did they smoke to make those cloudy names? Did the descision taking meeting look like the car full of smoke in that old Luniz video? ^^</p><p>This is unacceptable! I will fork this, and call it "Ubuntu Social iEnterprise Vertical e-Cloud Framework", Codename: "Twitching Twitter".<br>'Cause I got a fever. And the only prescription is "MOAR CLOUDBUZZ"!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud images , the Ubuntu One " personal cloud " Oh-oh , we 're getting dangerously close to a full set of buzzwords...What did they smoke to make those cloudy names ?
Did the descision taking meeting look like the car full of smoke in that old Luniz video ?
^ ^ This is unacceptable !
I will fork this , and call it " Ubuntu Social iEnterprise Vertical e-Cloud Framework " , Codename : " Twitching Twitter " .
'Cause I got a fever .
And the only prescription is " MOAR CLOUDBUZZ " !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud images, the Ubuntu One "personal cloud"Oh-oh, we're getting dangerously close to a full set of buzzwords...What did they smoke to make those cloudy names?
Did the descision taking meeting look like the car full of smoke in that old Luniz video?
^^This is unacceptable!
I will fork this, and call it "Ubuntu Social iEnterprise Vertical e-Cloud Framework", Codename: "Twitching Twitter".
'Cause I got a fever.
And the only prescription is "MOAR CLOUDBUZZ"!
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29916529</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime T</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256811180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>and grub2 isn't even available on Gentoo yet</p></div></blockquote><p>Gentoo has hardly been what you'd call "bleeding edge" for some years now.  It took them a good year or so to upgrade to KDE 4 or X.org 1.5 for example...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>and grub2 is n't even available on Gentoo yetGentoo has hardly been what you 'd call " bleeding edge " for some years now .
It took them a good year or so to upgrade to KDE 4 or X.org 1.5 for example.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and grub2 isn't even available on Gentoo yetGentoo has hardly been what you'd call "bleeding edge" for some years now.
It took them a good year or so to upgrade to KDE 4 or X.org 1.5 for example...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909469</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912667</id>
	<title>Re:Before Installing, note:</title>
	<author>TheTyrannyOfForcedRe</author>
	<datestamp>1256839620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I recently migrated 1.5TB of large files from ext3 to ext4 on karmic.  There was no corruption.  All files verified by md5sum.  Important files additionally verified with a diff.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I recently migrated 1.5TB of large files from ext3 to ext4 on karmic .
There was no corruption .
All files verified by md5sum .
Important files additionally verified with a diff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recently migrated 1.5TB of large files from ext3 to ext4 on karmic.
There was no corruption.
All files verified by md5sum.
Important files additionally verified with a diff.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909901</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29920641</id>
	<title>Re:Do we really need...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256837760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you want everything to be updated faster, but slower. Great thinking, there.</p><p>I don't think you quite understand how Linux development and distro packaging work just yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you want everything to be updated faster , but slower .
Great thinking , there.I do n't think you quite understand how Linux development and distro packaging work just yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you want everything to be updated faster, but slower.
Great thinking, there.I don't think you quite understand how Linux development and distro packaging work just yet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911747</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909531</id>
	<title>Indeed it is!!!!</title>
	<author>Harribo99</author>
	<datestamp>1256827860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The files are there and can be downloaded goto <a href="http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//karmic/" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//karmic/</a> [ubuntu.com] and see for yourself</htmltext>
<tokenext>The files are there and can be downloaded goto http : //noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//karmic/ [ ubuntu.com ] and see for yourself</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The files are there and can be downloaded goto http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//karmic/ [ubuntu.com] and see for yourself</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909755</id>
	<title>Re:It's not released yet?!</title>
	<author>spidercoz</author>
	<datestamp>1256828940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I mean seriously, how hard is it to do a little digging.  According to the mirrors, it's been up for at least a day.  Jeeze, don't try or anything.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean seriously , how hard is it to do a little digging .
According to the mirrors , it 's been up for at least a day .
Jeeze , do n't try or anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean seriously, how hard is it to do a little digging.
According to the mirrors, it's been up for at least a day.
Jeeze, don't try or anything.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909317</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29916195</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1256810040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p> Considering netbooks are shipping with 7 and ram costs less than shipping</p></div><p>Real Netbooks are devices like the SmartQ5 and the SmartQ7 which I have got evaluation pieces from China for about $170 a piece.</p></div><p>What OS do they ship with?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering netbooks are shipping with 7 and ram costs less than shippingReal Netbooks are devices like the SmartQ5 and the SmartQ7 which I have got evaluation pieces from China for about $ 170 a piece.What OS do they ship with ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Considering netbooks are shipping with 7 and ram costs less than shippingReal Netbooks are devices like the SmartQ5 and the SmartQ7 which I have got evaluation pieces from China for about $170 a piece.What OS do they ship with?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910395</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910569</id>
	<title>Re:How to get Ubuntu 9?</title>
	<author>crimsun</author>
	<datestamp>1256832060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As others have stated, the recommended upgrade path for non-LTS Ubuntu versions is through each successive release.</p><p>For Kubuntu only, you can upgrade to 9.10 <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04" title="ubuntu.com">from 8.04 LTS</a> [ubuntu.com] or <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu" title="ubuntu.com">from 9.04</a> [ubuntu.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As others have stated , the recommended upgrade path for non-LTS Ubuntu versions is through each successive release.For Kubuntu only , you can upgrade to 9.10 from 8.04 LTS [ ubuntu.com ] or from 9.04 [ ubuntu.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As others have stated, the recommended upgrade path for non-LTS Ubuntu versions is through each successive release.For Kubuntu only, you can upgrade to 9.10 from 8.04 LTS [ubuntu.com] or from 9.04 [ubuntu.com].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909267</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29920003</id>
	<title>ext3</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256830860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Users who routinely manipulate large files may want to consider using ext3 file systems until this issue is resolved. (453579)</p></div><p>I have a uh, friend who's been waiting for 9.10 to come out so that he could try out Linux. If uh, he wanted to install Ubuntu with ext3 instead how exactly would I tell him to do that?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;&gt;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Users who routinely manipulate large files may want to consider using ext3 file systems until this issue is resolved .
( 453579 ) I have a uh , friend who 's been waiting for 9.10 to come out so that he could try out Linux .
If uh , he wanted to install Ubuntu with ext3 instead how exactly would I tell him to do that ?
; &gt;</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Users who routinely manipulate large files may want to consider using ext3 file systems until this issue is resolved.
(453579)I have a uh, friend who's been waiting for 9.10 to come out so that he could try out Linux.
If uh, he wanted to install Ubuntu with ext3 instead how exactly would I tell him to do that?
;&gt;
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909901</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911345</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime T</title>
	<author>matts-reign</author>
	<datestamp>1256835000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Personally, I've been using grub2 for a long time now. A year or two, probably.

Even Debian has it available -- and that's my measuring stick as to whether things are "old" or not.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally , I 've been using grub2 for a long time now .
A year or two , probably .
Even Debian has it available -- and that 's my measuring stick as to whether things are " old " or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally, I've been using grub2 for a long time now.
A year or two, probably.
Even Debian has it available -- and that's my measuring stick as to whether things are "old" or not.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909469</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912505</id>
	<title>Re:Torrentz PLZ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256838960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //torrent.ubuntu.com : 6969/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910411</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912031</id>
	<title>Re:Samba?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256837460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your Google must be broken.  There are several: http://www.samba.org/samba/GUI/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your Google must be broken .
There are several : http : //www.samba.org/samba/GUI/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your Google must be broken.
There are several: http://www.samba.org/samba/GUI/</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910071</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910463</id>
	<title>Re:USB install</title>
	<author>British</author>
	<datestamp>1256831640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's what struck me as odd. I wanted to try ubuntu netbook remix on my EEE PC. It's available as an<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.IMG file, but Ubuntu's own utility won't even support it to write to a USB stick. Great jaerb, guys.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what struck me as odd .
I wanted to try ubuntu netbook remix on my EEE PC .
It 's available as an .IMG file , but Ubuntu 's own utility wo n't even support it to write to a USB stick .
Great jaerb , guys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's what struck me as odd.
I wanted to try ubuntu netbook remix on my EEE PC.
It's available as an .IMG file, but Ubuntu's own utility won't even support it to write to a USB stick.
Great jaerb, guys.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910011</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912833</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>radish</author>
	<datestamp>1256840220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Real" netbooks? I think most people associate Netbook with the Eee, which has always been x86 based. Something like the Q5 is more of a MID. I have a $250 Netbook with 2GB/16GB SSD and it runs Win 7 just peachy, I'd take that over a $170 ARM device to be honest, particularly with those specs. My phone has more storage...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Real " netbooks ?
I think most people associate Netbook with the Eee , which has always been x86 based .
Something like the Q5 is more of a MID .
I have a $ 250 Netbook with 2GB/16GB SSD and it runs Win 7 just peachy , I 'd take that over a $ 170 ARM device to be honest , particularly with those specs .
My phone has more storage.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Real" netbooks?
I think most people associate Netbook with the Eee, which has always been x86 based.
Something like the Q5 is more of a MID.
I have a $250 Netbook with 2GB/16GB SSD and it runs Win 7 just peachy, I'd take that over a $170 ARM device to be honest, particularly with those specs.
My phone has more storage...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910395</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29915575</id>
	<title>Re:KDE summary: usable but not great. I'll pass.</title>
	<author>lanner</author>
	<datestamp>1256807760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have used KDE for many years, mostly on Debian.  I get the impression that most of the issues that we are having lately is due to KDE, not Debian/Ubuntu.</p><p>KDE4 was/is crap.  If I wanted Windows Vista, I would have just bought it.</p><p>I don't know what the issue is with the developers but they seem to have gotten it in their heads that KDE should be for entry-level computer users.</p><p>KDE3.5 was great.  KDE4 was a disaster.  It's really a shame.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have used KDE for many years , mostly on Debian .
I get the impression that most of the issues that we are having lately is due to KDE , not Debian/Ubuntu.KDE4 was/is crap .
If I wanted Windows Vista , I would have just bought it.I do n't know what the issue is with the developers but they seem to have gotten it in their heads that KDE should be for entry-level computer users.KDE3.5 was great .
KDE4 was a disaster .
It 's really a shame .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have used KDE for many years, mostly on Debian.
I get the impression that most of the issues that we are having lately is due to KDE, not Debian/Ubuntu.KDE4 was/is crap.
If I wanted Windows Vista, I would have just bought it.I don't know what the issue is with the developers but they seem to have gotten it in their heads that KDE should be for entry-level computer users.KDE3.5 was great.
KDE4 was a disaster.
It's really a shame.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909301</id>
	<title>Re:How to get Ubuntu 9?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256826840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you'll be better off with a complete reinstall. Especially if you have<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/home on a separate partition.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you 'll be better off with a complete reinstall .
Especially if you have /home on a separate partition .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you'll be better off with a complete reinstall.
Especially if you have /home on a separate partition.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909267</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910395</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256831400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Considering netbooks are shipping with 7 and ram costs less than shipping</p> </div><p>Real Netbooks are devices like the SmartQ5 and the SmartQ7 which I have got evaluation pieces from China for about $170 a piece. These devices contain the ARM-11 series processor with 256MB of RAM and 1GB of storage.</p><p>Windows7 requires regular disk drives and that makes it a mini-Notebook; not a Netbook.</p><p>Basically Microsoft took the Netbook, added a disk and forced it onto the market through big-name h/w vendors. This will not work with the ARM-range of Netbooks on which Windows will not run;  but Maemo, Ubuntu, Fedora etc run decently enough.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering netbooks are shipping with 7 and ram costs less than shipping Real Netbooks are devices like the SmartQ5 and the SmartQ7 which I have got evaluation pieces from China for about $ 170 a piece .
These devices contain the ARM-11 series processor with 256MB of RAM and 1GB of storage.Windows7 requires regular disk drives and that makes it a mini-Notebook ; not a Netbook.Basically Microsoft took the Netbook , added a disk and forced it onto the market through big-name h/w vendors .
This will not work with the ARM-range of Netbooks on which Windows will not run ; but Maemo , Ubuntu , Fedora etc run decently enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Considering netbooks are shipping with 7 and ram costs less than shipping Real Netbooks are devices like the SmartQ5 and the SmartQ7 which I have got evaluation pieces from China for about $170 a piece.
These devices contain the ARM-11 series processor with 256MB of RAM and 1GB of storage.Windows7 requires regular disk drives and that makes it a mini-Notebook; not a Netbook.Basically Microsoft took the Netbook, added a disk and forced it onto the market through big-name h/w vendors.
This will not work with the ARM-range of Netbooks on which Windows will not run;  but Maemo, Ubuntu, Fedora etc run decently enough.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910691</id>
	<title>Re:USB install</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256832540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is a "Create bootable USB stick" app in the System administration menu. That's how I did it: Booted from the CD to the desktop, copied everything to the stick with the app, rebooted with the USB stick and installed it from there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a " Create bootable USB stick " app in the System administration menu .
That 's how I did it : Booted from the CD to the desktop , copied everything to the stick with the app , rebooted with the USB stick and installed it from there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a "Create bootable USB stick" app in the System administration menu.
That's how I did it: Booted from the CD to the desktop, copied everything to the stick with the app, rebooted with the USB stick and installed it from there.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910011</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912445</id>
	<title>Re:flash?</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1256838780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you still have to use sudo and create a password to install it? That part is different from "any other OS".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you still have to use sudo and create a password to install it ?
That part is different from " any other OS " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you still have to use sudo and create a password to install it?
That part is different from "any other OS".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910313</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29915381</id>
	<title>Bloody hell!!!!</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1256807100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've done installs of Ubuntu on a virtual machines a couple of times but my initial experiences led me to stay away because I really like the development tools in Ubuntu and development really isn't Ubuntu's core strength - the end user desktop is or was. Installing dev tools felt like a right pain the behind and the fact that they didn't seem to allow let alone encourage custom kernel compilation put me right off. Fair enough I thought. I'm a geek I can stick with something else.</p><p>However pushing a release of an end user system like this that corrupts large files is just fucking moronic. I'm dumbfounded. Add allegations of pushing cloud computing shite to the mix and I'm giving Ubuntu a wide berth for now. This only confirms that i want to find another distro. Centos and Debian are looking to me like the leading distros for a geek to use, though I haven't checked out some of the others for a while. I don't hear as much about Mandrivel and SUSE these days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've done installs of Ubuntu on a virtual machines a couple of times but my initial experiences led me to stay away because I really like the development tools in Ubuntu and development really is n't Ubuntu 's core strength - the end user desktop is or was .
Installing dev tools felt like a right pain the behind and the fact that they did n't seem to allow let alone encourage custom kernel compilation put me right off .
Fair enough I thought .
I 'm a geek I can stick with something else.However pushing a release of an end user system like this that corrupts large files is just fucking moronic .
I 'm dumbfounded .
Add allegations of pushing cloud computing shite to the mix and I 'm giving Ubuntu a wide berth for now .
This only confirms that i want to find another distro .
Centos and Debian are looking to me like the leading distros for a geek to use , though I have n't checked out some of the others for a while .
I do n't hear as much about Mandrivel and SUSE these days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've done installs of Ubuntu on a virtual machines a couple of times but my initial experiences led me to stay away because I really like the development tools in Ubuntu and development really isn't Ubuntu's core strength - the end user desktop is or was.
Installing dev tools felt like a right pain the behind and the fact that they didn't seem to allow let alone encourage custom kernel compilation put me right off.
Fair enough I thought.
I'm a geek I can stick with something else.However pushing a release of an end user system like this that corrupts large files is just fucking moronic.
I'm dumbfounded.
Add allegations of pushing cloud computing shite to the mix and I'm giving Ubuntu a wide berth for now.
This only confirms that i want to find another distro.
Centos and Debian are looking to me like the leading distros for a geek to use, though I haven't checked out some of the others for a while.
I don't hear as much about Mandrivel and SUSE these days.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909901</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29921217</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime T</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256933760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"and grub2 isn't even available on Gentoo yet"</p><p>Do not worry, by the time your machine finished the compilation, it will be available.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" and grub2 is n't even available on Gentoo yet " Do not worry , by the time your machine finished the compilation , it will be available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"and grub2 isn't even available on Gentoo yet"Do not worry, by the time your machine finished the compilation, it will be available.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909469</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912341</id>
	<title>GRUB2</title>
	<author>phorm</author>
	<datestamp>1256838360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not out on Gentoo? That's odd, because even on our Debian/Lenny systems at the office Grub2 has been available for quite awhile, and Debian/stable is hardly known for being "bleeding edge"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not out on Gentoo ?
That 's odd , because even on our Debian/Lenny systems at the office Grub2 has been available for quite awhile , and Debian/stable is hardly known for being " bleeding edge "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not out on Gentoo?
That's odd, because even on our Debian/Lenny systems at the office Grub2 has been available for quite awhile, and Debian/stable is hardly known for being "bleeding edge"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909469</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29914513</id>
	<title>Looks like the same old shit to me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256846880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Same as 4.10, 5.04, 5.10, 6.06, 6.10, 7.04, 7.10, 8.04, 8.10, and 9.04. A turd it a turd (even if it's a slightly darker shade of brown).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Same as 4.10 , 5.04 , 5.10 , 6.06 , 6.10 , 7.04 , 7.10 , 8.04 , 8.10 , and 9.04 .
A turd it a turd ( even if it 's a slightly darker shade of brown ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Same as 4.10, 5.04, 5.10, 6.06, 6.10, 7.04, 7.10, 8.04, 8.10, and 9.04.
A turd it a turd (even if it's a slightly darker shade of brown).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29914273</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256845800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>if you read the replies from ARM CEO, their main target is to get MS to use their chips instead of intels. In the end they don't give a shit about crap maemo buntu fedrora. Nerds can think MS missed the bus all they want, and even if they did..the bus will come back to pick them up and kick linux out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>if you read the replies from ARM CEO , their main target is to get MS to use their chips instead of intels .
In the end they do n't give a shit about crap maemo buntu fedrora .
Nerds can think MS missed the bus all they want , and even if they did..the bus will come back to pick them up and kick linux out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if you read the replies from ARM CEO, their main target is to get MS to use their chips instead of intels.
In the end they don't give a shit about crap maemo buntu fedrora.
Nerds can think MS missed the bus all they want, and even if they did..the bus will come back to pick them up and kick linux out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910395</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910233</id>
	<title>aria2c</title>
	<author>TheGreatOrangePeel</author>
	<datestamp>1256830920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>using BitTorrent for downloads can help alleviate the load...</p></div></blockquote><p>

apt-get install aria2c and you can download from multiple mirrors + BitTorrent in parallel to both divide the load while downloading and help start seeding sooner.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>using BitTorrent for downloads can help alleviate the load.. . apt-get install aria2c and you can download from multiple mirrors + BitTorrent in parallel to both divide the load while downloading and help start seeding sooner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>using BitTorrent for downloads can help alleviate the load...

apt-get install aria2c and you can download from multiple mirrors + BitTorrent in parallel to both divide the load while downloading and help start seeding sooner.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911229</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>AdamWill</author>
	<datestamp>1256834580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I can barely run xubuntu on a machine with 256megs or ram let alone full ubuntu."</p><p>Xfce's almost as much of a resource hog as GNOME or KDE these days. On a 256MB system I'd recommend LXDE for something vaguely familiar which really doesn't eat tons of RAM. Of course, then you need low-resource apps as well. Dillo's a good basic browser, Midori if you need more than Dillo can provide. I'm partial to nedit for a very low-resource text editor. And so on...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I can barely run xubuntu on a machine with 256megs or ram let alone full ubuntu .
" Xfce 's almost as much of a resource hog as GNOME or KDE these days .
On a 256MB system I 'd recommend LXDE for something vaguely familiar which really does n't eat tons of RAM .
Of course , then you need low-resource apps as well .
Dillo 's a good basic browser , Midori if you need more than Dillo can provide .
I 'm partial to nedit for a very low-resource text editor .
And so on.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I can barely run xubuntu on a machine with 256megs or ram let alone full ubuntu.
"Xfce's almost as much of a resource hog as GNOME or KDE these days.
On a 256MB system I'd recommend LXDE for something vaguely familiar which really doesn't eat tons of RAM.
Of course, then you need low-resource apps as well.
Dillo's a good basic browser, Midori if you need more than Dillo can provide.
I'm partial to nedit for a very low-resource text editor.
And so on...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909527</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913009</id>
	<title>Re:Samba?</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1256840820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's the wrong way to go. Better would be to implement something like Windows Live Sync, an easy-to-use file-sharing application that goes over the Internet instead of requiring extremely complicated local network setup. (It still sends at LAN speeds if it detects both computers are on the same network, natch.)</p><p>Imagine AOL Instant Messenger's awesome filesharing feature but without all the IM baggage attached (heh), and that should give you an idea of how Live Sync works.</p><p>Samba filesharing is way overkill for this kind of use, IMO.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's the wrong way to go .
Better would be to implement something like Windows Live Sync , an easy-to-use file-sharing application that goes over the Internet instead of requiring extremely complicated local network setup .
( It still sends at LAN speeds if it detects both computers are on the same network , natch .
) Imagine AOL Instant Messenger 's awesome filesharing feature but without all the IM baggage attached ( heh ) , and that should give you an idea of how Live Sync works.Samba filesharing is way overkill for this kind of use , IMO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's the wrong way to go.
Better would be to implement something like Windows Live Sync, an easy-to-use file-sharing application that goes over the Internet instead of requiring extremely complicated local network setup.
(It still sends at LAN speeds if it detects both computers are on the same network, natch.
)Imagine AOL Instant Messenger's awesome filesharing feature but without all the IM baggage attached (heh), and that should give you an idea of how Live Sync works.Samba filesharing is way overkill for this kind of use, IMO.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910051</id>
	<title>Re:It's not released yet?!</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1256830140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>/. actually got breaking ubuntu news BEFORE the main site. And people say<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. is slow.</htmltext>
<tokenext>/ .
actually got breaking ubuntu news BEFORE the main site .
And people say / .
is slow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>/.
actually got breaking ubuntu news BEFORE the main site.
And people say /.
is slow.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912307</id>
	<title>Netbook Remix Nearly impossible to Install</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256838240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously Ubuntu, how could you allow such a difficult to install Netbook Remix?</p><p>First of all, no easy way to get to the torrent.  Horrible, especially because the traffic is the heaviest today.  I found it, but had to figure it out by going through the clogged mirrors to find.</p><p>Then, it's still very difficult to install once you get it.  They used to be released as IMG files which could be installed easily enough, but now it's an ISO and there are all kinds of utilities that need to be discovered, and even bad links on the Netbook page!  If you download the ISO and read the howto linked from the download page, it directs you to:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles</p><p>Which isn't even the right page, because it isn't an IMG file anymore.  It's an ISO.  Then I found this page:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick</p><p>And maybe that works, but their own utility couldn't create a bootable USB key, so now I'm downloading "UNetbootin".  Maybe that will work.</p><p>I'm sure the average user will have no problem doing this.  They'll will a lot of converts this way!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously Ubuntu , how could you allow such a difficult to install Netbook Remix ? First of all , no easy way to get to the torrent .
Horrible , especially because the traffic is the heaviest today .
I found it , but had to figure it out by going through the clogged mirrors to find.Then , it 's still very difficult to install once you get it .
They used to be released as IMG files which could be installed easily enough , but now it 's an ISO and there are all kinds of utilities that need to be discovered , and even bad links on the Netbook page !
If you download the ISO and read the howto linked from the download page , it directs you to :     https : //help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFilesWhich is n't even the right page , because it is n't an IMG file anymore .
It 's an ISO .
Then I found this page :     https : //help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStickAnd maybe that works , but their own utility could n't create a bootable USB key , so now I 'm downloading " UNetbootin " .
Maybe that will work.I 'm sure the average user will have no problem doing this .
They 'll will a lot of converts this way !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously Ubuntu, how could you allow such a difficult to install Netbook Remix?First of all, no easy way to get to the torrent.
Horrible, especially because the traffic is the heaviest today.
I found it, but had to figure it out by going through the clogged mirrors to find.Then, it's still very difficult to install once you get it.
They used to be released as IMG files which could be installed easily enough, but now it's an ISO and there are all kinds of utilities that need to be discovered, and even bad links on the Netbook page!
If you download the ISO and read the howto linked from the download page, it directs you to:
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFilesWhich isn't even the right page, because it isn't an IMG file anymore.
It's an ISO.
Then I found this page:
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStickAnd maybe that works, but their own utility couldn't create a bootable USB key, so now I'm downloading "UNetbootin".
Maybe that will work.I'm sure the average user will have no problem doing this.
They'll will a lot of converts this way!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910411</id>
	<title>Torrentz PLZ?</title>
	<author>BetterSense</author>
	<datestamp>1256831460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't seem to find torrents for the either 32 or 64 bit versions on the download page. Why hide the torrents, especially when traffic is so heavy right after release?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't seem to find torrents for the either 32 or 64 bit versions on the download page .
Why hide the torrents , especially when traffic is so heavy right after release ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't seem to find torrents for the either 32 or 64 bit versions on the download page.
Why hide the torrents, especially when traffic is so heavy right after release?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29919205</id>
	<title>Re:Samba?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256824560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you tried using swat? or is that what you used?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you tried using swat ?
or is that what you used ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you tried using swat?
or is that what you used?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910071</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909265</id>
	<title>It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256826600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A lesson for Windows Engineers. Aim for 256MB, not 2GB. The era of Netbooks is upon us, and it looks like Microsoft will miss the bus.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A lesson for Windows Engineers .
Aim for 256MB , not 2GB .
The era of Netbooks is upon us , and it looks like Microsoft will miss the bus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lesson for Windows Engineers.
Aim for 256MB, not 2GB.
The era of Netbooks is upon us, and it looks like Microsoft will miss the bus.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29915527</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>thtrgremlin</author>
	<datestamp>1256807580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Microsoft has said that it beat out Linux on Netbooks. Without getting into all the gory details, HP and Dell have not made the same "observation". Being as neutral as I possibly can it is all a matter of how you define Netbook<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft has said that it beat out Linux on Netbooks .
Without getting into all the gory details , HP and Dell have not made the same " observation " .
Being as neutral as I possibly can it is all a matter of how you define Netbook : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft has said that it beat out Linux on Netbooks.
Without getting into all the gory details, HP and Dell have not made the same "observation".
Being as neutral as I possibly can it is all a matter of how you define Netbook :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909473</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909527</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256827860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can barely run xubuntu on a machine with 256megs or ram let alone full ubuntu.</p><p>&gt;The era of Netbooks is upon us, and it looks like Microsoft will miss the bus.</p><p>Considering netbooks are shipping with 7 and ram costs less than shipping, I'll take the 2gig model, thanks.  More ram for my apps.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can barely run xubuntu on a machine with 256megs or ram let alone full ubuntu. &gt; The era of Netbooks is upon us , and it looks like Microsoft will miss the bus.Considering netbooks are shipping with 7 and ram costs less than shipping , I 'll take the 2gig model , thanks .
More ram for my apps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can barely run xubuntu on a machine with 256megs or ram let alone full ubuntu.&gt;The era of Netbooks is upon us, and it looks like Microsoft will miss the bus.Considering netbooks are shipping with 7 and ram costs less than shipping, I'll take the 2gig model, thanks.
More ram for my apps.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909265</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911317</id>
	<title>Re:VM images?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256834880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>or use apt-upgrade unless it doesn't have the internet that should work. Of course if you want a clean install I have no idea.</htmltext>
<tokenext>or use apt-upgrade unless it does n't have the internet that should work .
Of course if you want a clean install I have no idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or use apt-upgrade unless it doesn't have the internet that should work.
Of course if you want a clean install I have no idea.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909575</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913403</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime T</title>
	<author>Luke has no name</author>
	<datestamp>1256842560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The new Ubuntu seems to have a lot of new stuff that I feel slightly uneasy about.  I'm not sure if Ext4 has proven itself yet (then again, I haven't been paying attention), and grub2 isn't even available on Gentoo yet (my somewhat crude stick of measuring when things are considered "new" or not).  I like the progress, I'm just interesting in hearing some discussion about it (hal deprecation, new input system, NX, AppArmor, etc).</p></div><p>My theory is that this is a release to load up on almost-stable technologies, work out the shit, and have everything 'proven' for Ubuntu 10.04.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The new Ubuntu seems to have a lot of new stuff that I feel slightly uneasy about .
I 'm not sure if Ext4 has proven itself yet ( then again , I have n't been paying attention ) , and grub2 is n't even available on Gentoo yet ( my somewhat crude stick of measuring when things are considered " new " or not ) .
I like the progress , I 'm just interesting in hearing some discussion about it ( hal deprecation , new input system , NX , AppArmor , etc ) .My theory is that this is a release to load up on almost-stable technologies , work out the shit , and have everything 'proven ' for Ubuntu 10.04 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The new Ubuntu seems to have a lot of new stuff that I feel slightly uneasy about.
I'm not sure if Ext4 has proven itself yet (then again, I haven't been paying attention), and grub2 isn't even available on Gentoo yet (my somewhat crude stick of measuring when things are considered "new" or not).
I like the progress, I'm just interesting in hearing some discussion about it (hal deprecation, new input system, NX, AppArmor, etc).My theory is that this is a release to load up on almost-stable technologies, work out the shit, and have everything 'proven' for Ubuntu 10.04.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910343</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1256831220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem is the MS bus is the same bus you send to pick up those special kids with....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is the MS bus is the same bus you send to pick up those special kids with... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is the MS bus is the same bus you send to pick up those special kids with....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911901</id>
	<title>Re:Not true...</title>
	<author>Abreu</author>
	<datestamp>1256836980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, remember that almost all reviews of Vista were positive too...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , remember that almost all reviews of Vista were positive too.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, remember that almost all reviews of Vista were positive too...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913613</id>
	<title>Re:How to get Ubuntu 9?</title>
	<author>Hadlock</author>
	<datestamp>1256843340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just did this. Under one of the tabes in the update manager there's an option to change from "upgrade from LTS" to "upgrade on every major release". Check that, hit ok, and refresh. I upgraded from 8.04 to 9.04 via 8.10, and I'm about to make the 9.10 jump. I'm going to wait a week, let any major bugs get sorted out, let the servers rest a bit, and then make the jump.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just did this .
Under one of the tabes in the update manager there 's an option to change from " upgrade from LTS " to " upgrade on every major release " .
Check that , hit ok , and refresh .
I upgraded from 8.04 to 9.04 via 8.10 , and I 'm about to make the 9.10 jump .
I 'm going to wait a week , let any major bugs get sorted out , let the servers rest a bit , and then make the jump .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just did this.
Under one of the tabes in the update manager there's an option to change from "upgrade from LTS" to "upgrade on every major release".
Check that, hit ok, and refresh.
I upgraded from 8.04 to 9.04 via 8.10, and I'm about to make the 9.10 jump.
I'm going to wait a week, let any major bugs get sorted out, let the servers rest a bit, and then make the jump.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912281</id>
	<title>Re:Samba?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256838180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is a gui for exactly that, "ubuntu-config-samba" iirc. It manages users, passwords, and shares pretty easily. However, it's not included in the distro by default; it has to be added via apt or the Software Centre. This is problematic, of course, as most people don't know what "samba" is, much less that they need a gui for it.</p><p>The tools for managing network *anything* in Ubuntu are in the baby stages still. Most problematic, imo, is mounting Windows shares locally. There's still no function analogous to mounting a network drive in Windows, apart from installing smbfs and editing fstab, which I don't need to tell anyone is beyond the ken of your average user.</p><p>They're working on these problems--apparently--but they're still problems, especially in an era of networking and mixed-system homes/offices.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a gui for exactly that , " ubuntu-config-samba " iirc .
It manages users , passwords , and shares pretty easily .
However , it 's not included in the distro by default ; it has to be added via apt or the Software Centre .
This is problematic , of course , as most people do n't know what " samba " is , much less that they need a gui for it.The tools for managing network * anything * in Ubuntu are in the baby stages still .
Most problematic , imo , is mounting Windows shares locally .
There 's still no function analogous to mounting a network drive in Windows , apart from installing smbfs and editing fstab , which I do n't need to tell anyone is beyond the ken of your average user.They 're working on these problems--apparently--but they 're still problems , especially in an era of networking and mixed-system homes/offices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a gui for exactly that, "ubuntu-config-samba" iirc.
It manages users, passwords, and shares pretty easily.
However, it's not included in the distro by default; it has to be added via apt or the Software Centre.
This is problematic, of course, as most people don't know what "samba" is, much less that they need a gui for it.The tools for managing network *anything* in Ubuntu are in the baby stages still.
Most problematic, imo, is mounting Windows shares locally.
There's still no function analogous to mounting a network drive in Windows, apart from installing smbfs and editing fstab, which I don't need to tell anyone is beyond the ken of your average user.They're working on these problems--apparently--but they're still problems, especially in an era of networking and mixed-system homes/offices.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910071</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29915719</id>
	<title>Next release name:</title>
	<author>Cur8or</author>
	<datestamp>1256808300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Looming Lama</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looming Lama</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looming Lama</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910993</id>
	<title>Animal Farm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256833620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Shuttleworth is a businessman who has identified a business opportunity. Great, I hope he makes millions. But try to remember that he is not in it to fight for freedom.</p><p>The Ubuntu name belongs to Canonical. Ubuntu One, a commercial service is included in the default install (while other commercial services are kept out) and the Software Centre, while it looks great and is good for newbies to use, will by version 3.0 include commercial software for installation.</p><p>He is running a business and the ideals which created Debian from which most of the codebase of Ubuntu was sourced, are being eroded as his success enables him to sideline those who supported them.</p><p>What with the reference to animal farm? Are my eyes deceiving me or has that Ubuntu promise just got a bit smaller on the Ubuntu main page... and, don't the words mean something different now from what they once did...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Shuttleworth is a businessman who has identified a business opportunity .
Great , I hope he makes millions .
But try to remember that he is not in it to fight for freedom.The Ubuntu name belongs to Canonical .
Ubuntu One , a commercial service is included in the default install ( while other commercial services are kept out ) and the Software Centre , while it looks great and is good for newbies to use , will by version 3.0 include commercial software for installation.He is running a business and the ideals which created Debian from which most of the codebase of Ubuntu was sourced , are being eroded as his success enables him to sideline those who supported them.What with the reference to animal farm ?
Are my eyes deceiving me or has that Ubuntu promise just got a bit smaller on the Ubuntu main page... and , do n't the words mean something different now from what they once did.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shuttleworth is a businessman who has identified a business opportunity.
Great, I hope he makes millions.
But try to remember that he is not in it to fight for freedom.The Ubuntu name belongs to Canonical.
Ubuntu One, a commercial service is included in the default install (while other commercial services are kept out) and the Software Centre, while it looks great and is good for newbies to use, will by version 3.0 include commercial software for installation.He is running a business and the ideals which created Debian from which most of the codebase of Ubuntu was sourced, are being eroded as his success enables him to sideline those who supported them.What with the reference to animal farm?
Are my eyes deceiving me or has that Ubuntu promise just got a bit smaller on the Ubuntu main page... and, don't the words mean something different now from what they once did...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909961</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime T</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256829780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't use Gentoo as a measuring stick for what's new.  At least, not the stable branch.  I'm a happy user of Gentoo stable (amd64), but it seems as if we're more in the middle of the pack, rather than cutting edge.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't use Gentoo as a measuring stick for what 's new .
At least , not the stable branch .
I 'm a happy user of Gentoo stable ( amd64 ) , but it seems as if we 're more in the middle of the pack , rather than cutting edge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't use Gentoo as a measuring stick for what's new.
At least, not the stable branch.
I'm a happy user of Gentoo stable (amd64), but it seems as if we're more in the middle of the pack, rather than cutting edge.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913889</id>
	<title>Re:Do we really need...</title>
	<author>bevoblake</author>
	<datestamp>1256844360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As an off-again-on-again linux user since the early days of Redhat and Caldera, I would have historically agreed with the need for a relatively long-use release.  However, I think Ubuntu has become very easy to use for the installation of new programs.  Apt-get is a huge win.  This helps eliminate the difficulty of setting up a new environment when you reinstall the OS.  For the few applications that aren't available via apt-get, I'm willing to spend some extra time (although installing the latest version of ruby/gems/somewhat rarely used gems/rails on my last ubuntu install was a bit brutal).<br> <br>That said, I probably will stick with the next long-term release for an extended time period for many of the reasons you mention compounded by my general laziness.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As an off-again-on-again linux user since the early days of Redhat and Caldera , I would have historically agreed with the need for a relatively long-use release .
However , I think Ubuntu has become very easy to use for the installation of new programs .
Apt-get is a huge win .
This helps eliminate the difficulty of setting up a new environment when you reinstall the OS .
For the few applications that are n't available via apt-get , I 'm willing to spend some extra time ( although installing the latest version of ruby/gems/somewhat rarely used gems/rails on my last ubuntu install was a bit brutal ) .
That said , I probably will stick with the next long-term release for an extended time period for many of the reasons you mention compounded by my general laziness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As an off-again-on-again linux user since the early days of Redhat and Caldera, I would have historically agreed with the need for a relatively long-use release.
However, I think Ubuntu has become very easy to use for the installation of new programs.
Apt-get is a huge win.
This helps eliminate the difficulty of setting up a new environment when you reinstall the OS.
For the few applications that aren't available via apt-get, I'm willing to spend some extra time (although installing the latest version of ruby/gems/somewhat rarely used gems/rails on my last ubuntu install was a bit brutal).
That said, I probably will stick with the next long-term release for an extended time period for many of the reasons you mention compounded by my general laziness.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29914065</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime T</title>
	<author>willyg</author>
	<datestamp>1256845080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For those of you that need wireless, and need to access Access Points with hidden ESSIDs (like I do for work), you should stay away from the KDE version of 9.10 (Kubuntu) for the time being, unless you're still comfortable with installing/running wicd.  The latest release candidate of 9.10 I ran last week still had issues out of the box.  If you need this capability, stick with the plain vanilla version (Gnome).  I'm told that nm-applet works O.K. with wireless, although I've not had the chance to confirm it yet.</p><p>As always, YMMV...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For those of you that need wireless , and need to access Access Points with hidden ESSIDs ( like I do for work ) , you should stay away from the KDE version of 9.10 ( Kubuntu ) for the time being , unless you 're still comfortable with installing/running wicd .
The latest release candidate of 9.10 I ran last week still had issues out of the box .
If you need this capability , stick with the plain vanilla version ( Gnome ) .
I 'm told that nm-applet works O.K .
with wireless , although I 've not had the chance to confirm it yet.As always , YMMV.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For those of you that need wireless, and need to access Access Points with hidden ESSIDs (like I do for work), you should stay away from the KDE version of 9.10 (Kubuntu) for the time being, unless you're still comfortable with installing/running wicd.
The latest release candidate of 9.10 I ran last week still had issues out of the box.
If you need this capability, stick with the plain vanilla version (Gnome).
I'm told that nm-applet works O.K.
with wireless, although I've not had the chance to confirm it yet.As always, YMMV...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29919385</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>VoltageX</author>
	<datestamp>1256825940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can I purchase any of the Smart netbooks yet? I want one. A lot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can I purchase any of the Smart netbooks yet ?
I want one .
A lot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can I purchase any of the Smart netbooks yet?
I want one.
A lot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911891</id>
	<title>Re:Samba?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256836920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Damn straight, it's one of the reasons I'm no longer running running Ubuntu. Very few of the apps show any polish.</p><p>Want an example? Bring up the calculator, Type in 2.2.2 and add 1. It will display error. It should have disallowed the second decimal point as an input</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Damn straight , it 's one of the reasons I 'm no longer running running Ubuntu .
Very few of the apps show any polish.Want an example ?
Bring up the calculator , Type in 2.2.2 and add 1 .
It will display error .
It should have disallowed the second decimal point as an input</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Damn straight, it's one of the reasons I'm no longer running running Ubuntu.
Very few of the apps show any polish.Want an example?
Bring up the calculator, Type in 2.2.2 and add 1.
It will display error.
It should have disallowed the second decimal point as an input</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912083</id>
	<title>Re:Very positive experience so far</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256837640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There also many serious problems, especially if you need particular packages. For example, many packages using python + boost-python are broken in these release, despite bug reports since the early alpha stages. Lots of glossy features on the surface but pretty rotten at the core for some. I suspect that will stay that way until the next debian release brings stability to ALL packages again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There also many serious problems , especially if you need particular packages .
For example , many packages using python + boost-python are broken in these release , despite bug reports since the early alpha stages .
Lots of glossy features on the surface but pretty rotten at the core for some .
I suspect that will stay that way until the next debian release brings stability to ALL packages again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There also many serious problems, especially if you need particular packages.
For example, many packages using python + boost-python are broken in these release, despite bug reports since the early alpha stages.
Lots of glossy features on the surface but pretty rotten at the core for some.
I suspect that will stay that way until the next debian release brings stability to ALL packages again.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911261</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909341</id>
	<title>Time for my Ubuntu 9.10 Launch Party</title>
	<author>axor1337</author>
	<datestamp>1256826960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just had a windows Seven Launch Party (I signed up so I could get the free copy of Ultimate) now it is time for the Ubuntu Party. I love Ubuntu but need to run windows as my host OS for work reasons. Dual booting takes to long to switch back and forth so i use Virtual Box. and Run Ubuntu as a VM. I am stoked.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just had a windows Seven Launch Party ( I signed up so I could get the free copy of Ultimate ) now it is time for the Ubuntu Party .
I love Ubuntu but need to run windows as my host OS for work reasons .
Dual booting takes to long to switch back and forth so i use Virtual Box .
and Run Ubuntu as a VM .
I am stoked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just had a windows Seven Launch Party (I signed up so I could get the free copy of Ultimate) now it is time for the Ubuntu Party.
I love Ubuntu but need to run windows as my host OS for work reasons.
Dual booting takes to long to switch back and forth so i use Virtual Box.
and Run Ubuntu as a VM.
I am stoked.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29914339</id>
	<title>Re:Not yet</title>
	<author>Gothmolly</author>
	<datestamp>1256846160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Last Measure?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Last Measure ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last Measure?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909693</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29916001</id>
	<title>Re:KDE summary: usable but not great. I'll pass.</title>
	<author>SheeEttin</author>
	<datestamp>1256809440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>knetworkmanager is broken by design. I have it purged from my system, and if something reinstalls, it, I will purge it again, with prejudice. It is the bane of all networking. (Okay, maybe just in my static IP experience, but still.)<br> <br>

Aside from that, KDE4 works fine now. I can't speak to Bluetooth, but previews in Dolphin work just fine (though I don't know what you mean by "in the context menu"). Only problem I have with previews is that when you're downloading a previewable file, Dolphin regenerates the preview constantly, resulting in 100\% CPU until I stop it somehow.<br>
It also seems that when using apt-get, reading package lists takes at least three times as long.<br> <br>

But yeah, other than that, everything else flies.</htmltext>
<tokenext>knetworkmanager is broken by design .
I have it purged from my system , and if something reinstalls , it , I will purge it again , with prejudice .
It is the bane of all networking .
( Okay , maybe just in my static IP experience , but still .
) Aside from that , KDE4 works fine now .
I ca n't speak to Bluetooth , but previews in Dolphin work just fine ( though I do n't know what you mean by " in the context menu " ) .
Only problem I have with previews is that when you 're downloading a previewable file , Dolphin regenerates the preview constantly , resulting in 100 \ % CPU until I stop it somehow .
It also seems that when using apt-get , reading package lists takes at least three times as long .
But yeah , other than that , everything else flies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>knetworkmanager is broken by design.
I have it purged from my system, and if something reinstalls, it, I will purge it again, with prejudice.
It is the bane of all networking.
(Okay, maybe just in my static IP experience, but still.
) 

Aside from that, KDE4 works fine now.
I can't speak to Bluetooth, but previews in Dolphin work just fine (though I don't know what you mean by "in the context menu").
Only problem I have with previews is that when you're downloading a previewable file, Dolphin regenerates the preview constantly, resulting in 100\% CPU until I stop it somehow.
It also seems that when using apt-get, reading package lists takes at least three times as long.
But yeah, other than that, everything else flies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909469</id>
	<title>Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime Time</title>
	<author>QBasicer</author>
	<datestamp>1256827620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>The new Ubuntu seems to have a lot of new stuff that I feel slightly uneasy about.  I'm not sure if Ext4 has proven itself yet (then again, I haven't been paying attention), and grub2 isn't even available on Gentoo yet (my somewhat crude stick of measuring when things are considered "new" or not).  I like the progress, I'm just interesting in hearing some discussion about it (hal deprecation, new input system, NX, AppArmor, etc).</htmltext>
<tokenext>The new Ubuntu seems to have a lot of new stuff that I feel slightly uneasy about .
I 'm not sure if Ext4 has proven itself yet ( then again , I have n't been paying attention ) , and grub2 is n't even available on Gentoo yet ( my somewhat crude stick of measuring when things are considered " new " or not ) .
I like the progress , I 'm just interesting in hearing some discussion about it ( hal deprecation , new input system , NX , AppArmor , etc ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The new Ubuntu seems to have a lot of new stuff that I feel slightly uneasy about.
I'm not sure if Ext4 has proven itself yet (then again, I haven't been paying attention), and grub2 isn't even available on Gentoo yet (my somewhat crude stick of measuring when things are considered "new" or not).
I like the progress, I'm just interesting in hearing some discussion about it (hal deprecation, new input system, NX, AppArmor, etc).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913437</id>
	<title>Re:Torrentz PLZ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256842680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I can't seem to find torrents for the either 32 or 64 bit versions on the download page. Why hide the torrents, especially when traffic is so heavy right after release?</p></div><p>http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't seem to find torrents for the either 32 or 64 bit versions on the download page .
Why hide the torrents , especially when traffic is so heavy right after release ? http : //noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't seem to find torrents for the either 32 or 64 bit versions on the download page.
Why hide the torrents, especially when traffic is so heavy right after release?http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909653</id>
	<title>Re:How to get Ubuntu 9?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256828520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>During my Debian days I never had to do a complete reinstall.</p><p>Of course, Debian didn't have Ubuntu's release schedule.</p><p>But then I always followed unstable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>During my Debian days I never had to do a complete reinstall.Of course , Debian did n't have Ubuntu 's release schedule.But then I always followed unstable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>During my Debian days I never had to do a complete reinstall.Of course, Debian didn't have Ubuntu's release schedule.But then I always followed unstable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910931</id>
	<title>Re:USB install</title>
	<author>golrien</author>
	<datestamp>1256833440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes you can. You need either -<br>
&nbsp; a Windows system and unetbootin: <a href="http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/" title="sourceforge.net" rel="nofollow">http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/</a> [sourceforge.net]<br>
&nbsp; or, an Ubuntu system with usbcreator: <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#usb-creator\%20(Windows\%20or\%20Linux)" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#usb-creator\%20(Windows\%20or\%20Linux)</a> [ubuntu.com]</p><p>I used unetbootin on Windows and it's a very well-made program, no problems at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes you can .
You need either -   a Windows system and unetbootin : http : //unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [ sourceforge.net ]   or , an Ubuntu system with usbcreator : https : //help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick # usb-creator \ % 20 ( Windows \ % 20or \ % 20Linux ) [ ubuntu.com ] I used unetbootin on Windows and it 's a very well-made program , no problems at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes you can.
You need either -
  a Windows system and unetbootin: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]
  or, an Ubuntu system with usbcreator: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#usb-creator\%20(Windows\%20or\%20Linux) [ubuntu.com]I used unetbootin on Windows and it's a very well-made program, no problems at all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29917303</id>
	<title>Re:Canonical does something right for a change</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256814060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>scrap Upstart/clone FreeBSD init, get rid of DKMS, ideally get rid of crapt-get and clone ports, revert to OSS for sound, get rid of the insane scenario where GNOME is irremovably fused with virtually the entire rest of the system</p></div><p>Screw that.  Things like Upstart, DKMS, apt-get, and ALSA are the reasons why I'm using Ubuntu in the first place.  Go back to FreeBSD if that's what you want to use.</p><p>Oh, and GNOME isn't fused to the rest of the system.  You can get the server distro of Ubuntu to install a headless system, or get Xubuntu or Kubuntu to install XFCE or KDE by default.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>scrap Upstart/clone FreeBSD init , get rid of DKMS , ideally get rid of crapt-get and clone ports , revert to OSS for sound , get rid of the insane scenario where GNOME is irremovably fused with virtually the entire rest of the systemScrew that .
Things like Upstart , DKMS , apt-get , and ALSA are the reasons why I 'm using Ubuntu in the first place .
Go back to FreeBSD if that 's what you want to use.Oh , and GNOME is n't fused to the rest of the system .
You can get the server distro of Ubuntu to install a headless system , or get Xubuntu or Kubuntu to install XFCE or KDE by default .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>scrap Upstart/clone FreeBSD init, get rid of DKMS, ideally get rid of crapt-get and clone ports, revert to OSS for sound, get rid of the insane scenario where GNOME is irremovably fused with virtually the entire rest of the systemScrew that.
Things like Upstart, DKMS, apt-get, and ALSA are the reasons why I'm using Ubuntu in the first place.
Go back to FreeBSD if that's what you want to use.Oh, and GNOME isn't fused to the rest of the system.
You can get the server distro of Ubuntu to install a headless system, or get Xubuntu or Kubuntu to install XFCE or KDE by default.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29925997</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Bootarn</author>
	<datestamp>1256926800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OK, I'd mod this 'insightful' if I had the points. It's still kind of funny, though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , I 'd mod this 'insightful ' if I had the points .
It 's still kind of funny , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, I'd mod this 'insightful' if I had the points.
It's still kind of funny, though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909307</id>
	<title>Not yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256826840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you anticipated a little...<br>The website is not yet updated and the release can not yet be downloaded<br>Just a little bit more patience</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you anticipated a little...The website is not yet updated and the release can not yet be downloadedJust a little bit more patience</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you anticipated a little...The website is not yet updated and the release can not yet be downloadedJust a little bit more patience</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909995</id>
	<title>flash?</title>
	<author>Lord Ender</author>
	<datestamp>1256829960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will this be the first version of Ubuntu to have out-of-the-box working Flash support in the 64b version? Or will the pain continue?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will this be the first version of Ubuntu to have out-of-the-box working Flash support in the 64b version ?
Or will the pain continue ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will this be the first version of Ubuntu to have out-of-the-box working Flash support in the 64b version?
Or will the pain continue?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29914577</id>
	<title>Re:Torrentz PLZ?</title>
	<author>hayalci</author>
	<datestamp>1256847180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Torrent files are here:
<br>
 <a href="http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">32-bit</a> [ubuntu.com]
<br>
<a href="http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com//9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">64-bit</a> [ubuntu.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Torrent files are here : 32-bit [ ubuntu.com ] 64-bit [ ubuntu.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Torrent files are here:

 32-bit [ubuntu.com]

64-bit [ubuntu.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910307</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>Spazztastic</author>
	<datestamp>1256831160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I rode a short bus, you insensitive clod!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I rode a short bus , you insensitive clod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I rode a short bus, you insensitive clod!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29919425</id>
	<title>Re:A suggestion...</title>
	<author>VoltageX</author>
	<datestamp>1256826300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And this is why mirrors exist. If my local mirror has it, yours does too.</p><p><a href="http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/releases/9.10/" title="on.net" rel="nofollow">http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/releases/9.10/</a> [on.net]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And this is why mirrors exist .
If my local mirror has it , yours does too.http : //mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/releases/9.10/ [ on.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And this is why mirrors exist.
If my local mirror has it, yours does too.http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/releases/9.10/ [on.net]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911027</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>jisatsusha</author>
	<datestamp>1256833740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras</tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras</tokentext>
<sentencetext>aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909389</id>
	<title>Re:How to get Ubuntu 9?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256827200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can do the latter, but it's not recommended. You are guaranteed to have a mess. I did an upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04, and that was sticky. 8.10 to 9.04 went okay, but doing two in one go is going to cause all sorts of trouble. I would expect, at the very minimum, that you will have sound randomly crapping out on you.</p><p>Clean install is best.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can do the latter , but it 's not recommended .
You are guaranteed to have a mess .
I did an upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 , and that was sticky .
8.10 to 9.04 went okay , but doing two in one go is going to cause all sorts of trouble .
I would expect , at the very minimum , that you will have sound randomly crapping out on you.Clean install is best .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can do the latter, but it's not recommended.
You are guaranteed to have a mess.
I did an upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04, and that was sticky.
8.10 to 9.04 went okay, but doing two in one go is going to cause all sorts of trouble.
I would expect, at the very minimum, that you will have sound randomly crapping out on you.Clean install is best.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29920847</id>
	<title>Something strange about this Kubuntu</title>
	<author>GoochOwnsYou</author>
	<datestamp>1256841000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I downloaded the ISO for Kubuntu this morning, I hear nice things about KDE 4.3 so after 5 years Im finally switching back from Gnome. <br> <br>

When I was looking on the site and I found something amusing: Kubuntu Karmic Koala... KKK... I was thinking "Surely they saw this coming a while away!". I found it amusing.

Now fingers crossed I dont get dependancy issues for Citrix client like last time (had to wait for a new version of the client last time).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I downloaded the ISO for Kubuntu this morning , I hear nice things about KDE 4.3 so after 5 years Im finally switching back from Gnome .
When I was looking on the site and I found something amusing : Kubuntu Karmic Koala... KKK... I was thinking " Surely they saw this coming a while away ! " .
I found it amusing .
Now fingers crossed I dont get dependancy issues for Citrix client like last time ( had to wait for a new version of the client last time ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I downloaded the ISO for Kubuntu this morning, I hear nice things about KDE 4.3 so after 5 years Im finally switching back from Gnome.
When I was looking on the site and I found something amusing: Kubuntu Karmic Koala... KKK... I was thinking "Surely they saw this coming a while away!".
I found it amusing.
Now fingers crossed I dont get dependancy issues for Citrix client like last time (had to wait for a new version of the client last time).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909385</id>
	<title>Re: http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256827140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you can download it now from http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ or mirror sites.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you can download it now from http : //noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ or mirror sites .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you can download it now from http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ or mirror sites.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912333</id>
	<title>Re:It's FREE! as long as...</title>
	<author>tylerni7</author>
	<datestamp>1256838300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm definitely willing to say that I have had bad experiences with Ubuntu upgrades breaking things in the past, mostly in the way of my monitor set up.
<br>However, the 15 minutes it takes to get three monitors each with virtual desktops back up and running vastly outweighs the Windows alternative of one giant screen with no virtual desktops.
<br>I also don't know how anyone familiar with package repository systems can see that as anything but a huge time saver with respect to an operating system like Windows.
<br> <br>Very truthfully, cost of an operating system isn't that important to most tech-savvy people. If I want to use Windows 7, I can either pirate it, or get a free student copy. There is some time investment in getting a Linux setup that works for you, but after that's done, you can be far more productive than you ever would be with Windows.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm definitely willing to say that I have had bad experiences with Ubuntu upgrades breaking things in the past , mostly in the way of my monitor set up .
However , the 15 minutes it takes to get three monitors each with virtual desktops back up and running vastly outweighs the Windows alternative of one giant screen with no virtual desktops .
I also do n't know how anyone familiar with package repository systems can see that as anything but a huge time saver with respect to an operating system like Windows .
Very truthfully , cost of an operating system is n't that important to most tech-savvy people .
If I want to use Windows 7 , I can either pirate it , or get a free student copy .
There is some time investment in getting a Linux setup that works for you , but after that 's done , you can be far more productive than you ever would be with Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm definitely willing to say that I have had bad experiences with Ubuntu upgrades breaking things in the past, mostly in the way of my monitor set up.
However, the 15 minutes it takes to get three monitors each with virtual desktops back up and running vastly outweighs the Windows alternative of one giant screen with no virtual desktops.
I also don't know how anyone familiar with package repository systems can see that as anything but a huge time saver with respect to an operating system like Windows.
Very truthfully, cost of an operating system isn't that important to most tech-savvy people.
If I want to use Windows 7, I can either pirate it, or get a free student copy.
There is some time investment in getting a Linux setup that works for you, but after that's done, you can be far more productive than you ever would be with Windows.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909371</id>
	<title>Re:How to get Ubuntu 9?</title>
	<author>Errol backfiring</author>
	<datestamp>1256827080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just try it. My gut feeling says it should be possible to do it in steps if it is 8.10. Otherwise, see <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades</a> [ubuntu.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just try it .
My gut feeling says it should be possible to do it in steps if it is 8.10 .
Otherwise , see https : //help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [ ubuntu.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just try it.
My gut feeling says it should be possible to do it in steps if it is 8.10.
Otherwise, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [ubuntu.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909317</id>
	<title>It's not released yet?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256826900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I mean seriously, how hard is it to go look at <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ubuntu.com/</a> [ubuntu.com] to check?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean seriously , how hard is it to go look at http : //www.ubuntu.com/ [ ubuntu.com ] to check ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean seriously, how hard is it to go look at http://www.ubuntu.com/ [ubuntu.com] to check?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909947</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>delire</author>
	<datestamp>1256829780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Will this version support Flash? It sure would be nice to view Youtube movies or play online games.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>

Ubuntu users have been watching flash content in their browsers for a long time. If you're referring to out-of-the-box support, no (which Windows doesn't have either). <br> <br>Just visit a webpage containing Flash content and you'll be guided to install the plugin.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Will this version support Flash ?
It sure would be nice to view Youtube movies or play online games .
Ubuntu users have been watching flash content in their browsers for a long time .
If you 're referring to out-of-the-box support , no ( which Windows does n't have either ) .
Just visit a webpage containing Flash content and you 'll be guided to install the plugin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will this version support Flash?
It sure would be nice to view Youtube movies or play online games.
Ubuntu users have been watching flash content in their browsers for a long time.
If you're referring to out-of-the-box support, no (which Windows doesn't have either).
Just visit a webpage containing Flash content and you'll be guided to install the plugin.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29918623</id>
	<title>Moving the goalposts</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1256821440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Real Netbooks are devices like the SmartQ5 and the SmartQ7<br>Basically Microsoft took the Netbook, added a disk and forced it onto the market through big-name h/w vendors.</i> </p><p>The driving force was sales - and profit.</p><p> It was a rout - and the geek ought to be honest enough to admit it.</p><p>Instead he will - once again  - redefine the netbook as a product - the mobile internet device, the MID - that sells at a price point he <b>knows</b> Intel and Microsoft cannot match.</p><p>The cheapest 10" Win 7 SE netbook at Walmart.com is $300 with 1 GB RAM and a 160 GB HDD.</p><p>For the SmartQ7:</p><p><a href="http://www.wholesaletip.com/index.php?route=product/product&amp;path=399\_318&amp;product\_id=27904" title="wholesaletip.com">smartdevices smartq 7 7.0 inch touchscreen linux mid internet tablet 667mhz cpu</a> [wholesaletip.com] $300 US</p><p>The big box retail price in the states should be cheaper, I suppose. But by how much?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Real Netbooks are devices like the SmartQ5 and the SmartQ7Basically Microsoft took the Netbook , added a disk and forced it onto the market through big-name h/w vendors .
The driving force was sales - and profit .
It was a rout - and the geek ought to be honest enough to admit it.Instead he will - once again - redefine the netbook as a product - the mobile internet device , the MID - that sells at a price point he knows Intel and Microsoft can not match.The cheapest 10 " Win 7 SE netbook at Walmart.com is $ 300 with 1 GB RAM and a 160 GB HDD.For the SmartQ7 : smartdevices smartq 7 7.0 inch touchscreen linux mid internet tablet 667mhz cpu [ wholesaletip.com ] $ 300 USThe big box retail price in the states should be cheaper , I suppose .
But by how much ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Real Netbooks are devices like the SmartQ5 and the SmartQ7Basically Microsoft took the Netbook, added a disk and forced it onto the market through big-name h/w vendors.
The driving force was sales - and profit.
It was a rout - and the geek ought to be honest enough to admit it.Instead he will - once again  - redefine the netbook as a product - the mobile internet device, the MID - that sells at a price point he knows Intel and Microsoft cannot match.The cheapest 10" Win 7 SE netbook at Walmart.com is $300 with 1 GB RAM and a 160 GB HDD.For the SmartQ7:smartdevices smartq 7 7.0 inch touchscreen linux mid internet tablet 667mhz cpu [wholesaletip.com] $300 USThe big box retail price in the states should be cheaper, I suppose.
But by how much?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909475</id>
	<title>Re:no it wasnt..</title>
	<author>palegray.net</author>
	<datestamp>1256827680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The main page may not say so, but <a href="http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/9.10/" title="ubuntu.com">check the mirrors</a> [ubuntu.com]. It's there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The main page may not say so , but check the mirrors [ ubuntu.com ] .
It 's there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The main page may not say so, but check the mirrors [ubuntu.com].
It's there.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911185</id>
	<title>Re:Samba?</title>
	<author>PartickThistle</author>
	<datestamp>1256834400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>apt-get install system-config-samba</htmltext>
<tokenext>apt-get install system-config-samba</tokentext>
<sentencetext>apt-get install system-config-samba</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909541</id>
	<title>Re:It's FREE! as long as...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256827920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And Windows costs no matter if you value your time or not. Even nicer!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And Windows costs no matter if you value your time or not .
Even nicer !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And Windows costs no matter if you value your time or not.
Even nicer!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909329</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29919947</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>PrntlUnit27</author>
	<datestamp>1256830440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My kid rides the short bus, you insensitive clod!</htmltext>
<tokenext>My kid rides the short bus , you insensitive clod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My kid rides the short bus, you insensitive clod!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909397</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29914503</id>
	<title>Re:KDE summary: usable but not great. I'll pass.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256846820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Does anyone else think that there are more and more bugs now, and that Ubuntu simply is not the "install and use defaults" user-friendly distro that it used to be?</p></div><p>Yes.</p><p>Especially Kubuntu.  Konsole, for example, is almost unusable.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone else think that there are more and more bugs now , and that Ubuntu simply is not the " install and use defaults " user-friendly distro that it used to be ? Yes.Especially Kubuntu .
Konsole , for example , is almost unusable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone else think that there are more and more bugs now, and that Ubuntu simply is not the "install and use defaults" user-friendly distro that it used to be?Yes.Especially Kubuntu.
Konsole, for example, is almost unusable.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909499</id>
	<title>Actually, yes it is</title>
	<author>mldi</author>
	<datestamp>1256827680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OK, so it's not "official" as the links aren't available yet, BUT the files are on their servers. Just look at current links, copy, replace 9.04 with 9.10, and voila! At least with the torrent files anyway...</htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , so it 's not " official " as the links are n't available yet , BUT the files are on their servers .
Just look at current links , copy , replace 9.04 with 9.10 , and voila !
At least with the torrent files anyway.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, so it's not "official" as the links aren't available yet, BUT the files are on their servers.
Just look at current links, copy, replace 9.04 with 9.10, and voila!
At least with the torrent files anyway...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909403</id>
	<title>Re:How to get Ubuntu 9?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256827320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To do the distro installs, incrementally, from your desktop hit Shift+F2 and enter "update-manager -d" without the quotes. The update manager will launch (as it usually does when loaded) but will give you a button at the top to upgrade to a new distribution (8.10/9.04/what-have-you). They take a little while.</p><p>Or, you could listen to Jurily and do a complete reinstall. I personally have had little problems doing the incremental upgrades, but YMMV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To do the distro installs , incrementally , from your desktop hit Shift + F2 and enter " update-manager -d " without the quotes .
The update manager will launch ( as it usually does when loaded ) but will give you a button at the top to upgrade to a new distribution ( 8.10/9.04/what-have-you ) .
They take a little while.Or , you could listen to Jurily and do a complete reinstall .
I personally have had little problems doing the incremental upgrades , but YMMV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To do the distro installs, incrementally, from your desktop hit Shift+F2 and enter "update-manager -d" without the quotes.
The update manager will launch (as it usually does when loaded) but will give you a button at the top to upgrade to a new distribution (8.10/9.04/what-have-you).
They take a little while.Or, you could listen to Jurily and do a complete reinstall.
I personally have had little problems doing the incremental upgrades, but YMMV.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909267</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913589</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256843280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Um Ubuntu has had flash for a while, you stupid dumb cunt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Um Ubuntu has had flash for a while , you stupid dumb cunt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um Ubuntu has had flash for a while, you stupid dumb cunt.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29915143</id>
	<title>Metalinks available (a bit hidden)</title>
	<author>logfish</author>
	<datestamp>1256849400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are also metalinks available for download. They are a bit hidden, so I've posted the links on my blog <a href="http://log.logfish.net/node/68" title="logfish.net" rel="nofollow">http://log.logfish.net/node/68</a> [logfish.net]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are also metalinks available for download .
They are a bit hidden , so I 've posted the links on my blog http : //log.logfish.net/node/68 [ logfish.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are also metalinks available for download.
They are a bit hidden, so I've posted the links on my blog http://log.logfish.net/node/68 [logfish.net]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29912117</id>
	<title>Re:A suggestion...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256837760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I upgraded 2 days ago to the RC (which, AFAICT, is equal to the release) to beat the rush hour traffic and everything works beautifully, the upgrade went smoothly. My 9.04 install had been upgraded previously from 8.10 and that also worked like a charm.</p><p>anonymous\_coward@slashdot:~$ cat<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/etc/lsb-release<br>DISTRIB\_ID=Ubuntu<br>DISTRIB\_RELEASE=9.10<br>DISTRIB\_CODENAME=karmic<br>DISTRIB\_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 9.10"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I upgraded 2 days ago to the RC ( which , AFAICT , is equal to the release ) to beat the rush hour traffic and everything works beautifully , the upgrade went smoothly .
My 9.04 install had been upgraded previously from 8.10 and that also worked like a charm.anonymous \ _coward @ slashdot : ~ $ cat /etc/lsb-releaseDISTRIB \ _ID = UbuntuDISTRIB \ _RELEASE = 9.10DISTRIB \ _CODENAME = karmicDISTRIB \ _DESCRIPTION = " Ubuntu 9.10 "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I upgraded 2 days ago to the RC (which, AFAICT, is equal to the release) to beat the rush hour traffic and everything works beautifully, the upgrade went smoothly.
My 9.04 install had been upgraded previously from 8.10 and that also worked like a charm.anonymous\_coward@slashdot:~$ cat /etc/lsb-releaseDISTRIB\_ID=UbuntuDISTRIB\_RELEASE=9.10DISTRIB\_CODENAME=karmicDISTRIB\_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 9.10"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911261</id>
	<title>Very positive experience so far</title>
	<author>Radhruin</author>
	<datestamp>1256834700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My experience with 9.10 so far has been extremely positive.

</p><p>I did an upgrade at first, and then a complete reinstall. The upgrade process went very quickly, and I only had one problem - that my network card became "unmanaged" again. This is some remnant from my 8.10 install back in the day. Besides that, there were no problems and my desktop was exactly as I left it.

</p><p>The install process from scratch also went well. The partition manager is pretty friendly, and the (I think) new time zone selector is actually easy to use. I also don't need to do a whole bunch of stuff to determine my keyboard layout -- it defaulted to US english and that was that.

</p><p>The desktop system itself is much improved.  The changes to Nautilus are welcome. The side bar is more user friendly, and the folders and such look a lot better.

</p><p>The notification system has some improvements so it's not quite as useless -- multiple consecutive notifications from the same application drop into the same notification window, and there's a sort of glass effect when you "mouse under" the window, making that absurd behavior a bit more palatable.

</p><p>My graphics card (GTX 280) was supported after downloading some binary drivers (although I had to restart to enable full desktop effects).

</p><p>My sound card (X-Fi Fatality edition) is finally supported in kernel, although I had to use amixer in order to get my mic working. The new sound mixer, though, is FAR more user friendly.

</p><p>I've had no problems so far with EXT4, and my load times in Heroes of Newerth have decreased since the upgrade.

</p><p>The font rendering. It's much better across the board. Firefox sees the biggest improvement, likely due to the upgrade to 3.5. Font rendering used to be far worse than Windows and is now on par with Mac (I prefer the bolder, smoother look of Mac fonts, personally).

</p><p>The HDD diagnosis tool is also handy. As soon as the upgrade completed and the tool ran, it warned me of some SMART errors on one of my drives. It's pretty easy to dig into the drives and run diagnostics and such.

</p><p>Empathy is still bad, and I switched back to pidgin after a few minutes of use. For example, I had to find an hidden check box just to "enable" the account and get it to connect. The UI is also not so hot.

</p><p>Overall I haven't regretted the upgrade at all, which is more than I can say to 9.04.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My experience with 9.10 so far has been extremely positive .
I did an upgrade at first , and then a complete reinstall .
The upgrade process went very quickly , and I only had one problem - that my network card became " unmanaged " again .
This is some remnant from my 8.10 install back in the day .
Besides that , there were no problems and my desktop was exactly as I left it .
The install process from scratch also went well .
The partition manager is pretty friendly , and the ( I think ) new time zone selector is actually easy to use .
I also do n't need to do a whole bunch of stuff to determine my keyboard layout -- it defaulted to US english and that was that .
The desktop system itself is much improved .
The changes to Nautilus are welcome .
The side bar is more user friendly , and the folders and such look a lot better .
The notification system has some improvements so it 's not quite as useless -- multiple consecutive notifications from the same application drop into the same notification window , and there 's a sort of glass effect when you " mouse under " the window , making that absurd behavior a bit more palatable .
My graphics card ( GTX 280 ) was supported after downloading some binary drivers ( although I had to restart to enable full desktop effects ) .
My sound card ( X-Fi Fatality edition ) is finally supported in kernel , although I had to use amixer in order to get my mic working .
The new sound mixer , though , is FAR more user friendly .
I 've had no problems so far with EXT4 , and my load times in Heroes of Newerth have decreased since the upgrade .
The font rendering .
It 's much better across the board .
Firefox sees the biggest improvement , likely due to the upgrade to 3.5 .
Font rendering used to be far worse than Windows and is now on par with Mac ( I prefer the bolder , smoother look of Mac fonts , personally ) .
The HDD diagnosis tool is also handy .
As soon as the upgrade completed and the tool ran , it warned me of some SMART errors on one of my drives .
It 's pretty easy to dig into the drives and run diagnostics and such .
Empathy is still bad , and I switched back to pidgin after a few minutes of use .
For example , I had to find an hidden check box just to " enable " the account and get it to connect .
The UI is also not so hot .
Overall I have n't regretted the upgrade at all , which is more than I can say to 9.04 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My experience with 9.10 so far has been extremely positive.
I did an upgrade at first, and then a complete reinstall.
The upgrade process went very quickly, and I only had one problem - that my network card became "unmanaged" again.
This is some remnant from my 8.10 install back in the day.
Besides that, there were no problems and my desktop was exactly as I left it.
The install process from scratch also went well.
The partition manager is pretty friendly, and the (I think) new time zone selector is actually easy to use.
I also don't need to do a whole bunch of stuff to determine my keyboard layout -- it defaulted to US english and that was that.
The desktop system itself is much improved.
The changes to Nautilus are welcome.
The side bar is more user friendly, and the folders and such look a lot better.
The notification system has some improvements so it's not quite as useless -- multiple consecutive notifications from the same application drop into the same notification window, and there's a sort of glass effect when you "mouse under" the window, making that absurd behavior a bit more palatable.
My graphics card (GTX 280) was supported after downloading some binary drivers (although I had to restart to enable full desktop effects).
My sound card (X-Fi Fatality edition) is finally supported in kernel, although I had to use amixer in order to get my mic working.
The new sound mixer, though, is FAR more user friendly.
I've had no problems so far with EXT4, and my load times in Heroes of Newerth have decreased since the upgrade.
The font rendering.
It's much better across the board.
Firefox sees the biggest improvement, likely due to the upgrade to 3.5.
Font rendering used to be far worse than Windows and is now on par with Mac (I prefer the bolder, smoother look of Mac fonts, personally).
The HDD diagnosis tool is also handy.
As soon as the upgrade completed and the tool ran, it warned me of some SMART errors on one of my drives.
It's pretty easy to dig into the drives and run diagnostics and such.
Empathy is still bad, and I switched back to pidgin after a few minutes of use.
For example, I had to find an hidden check box just to "enable" the account and get it to connect.
The UI is also not so hot.
Overall I haven't regretted the upgrade at all, which is more than I can say to 9.04.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909551</id>
	<title>Re:It's FREE! as long as...</title>
	<author>PinkyDead</author>
	<datestamp>1256828040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know I shouldn't feed a troll, but I just can't resist.....</p><p>Outside of downloading, I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 (RC1) in about an hour - mostly unattended (while I was doing other stuff as well).</p><p>A friend of mine who is a complete MS fanboy is currently at 4 days and counting for a Windows 7 upgrade.</p><p>I think I value my time too much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know I should n't feed a troll , but I just ca n't resist.....Outside of downloading , I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 ( RC1 ) in about an hour - mostly unattended ( while I was doing other stuff as well ) .A friend of mine who is a complete MS fanboy is currently at 4 days and counting for a Windows 7 upgrade.I think I value my time too much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know I shouldn't feed a troll, but I just can't resist.....Outside of downloading, I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 (RC1) in about an hour - mostly unattended (while I was doing other stuff as well).A friend of mine who is a complete MS fanboy is currently at 4 days and counting for a Windows 7 upgrade.I think I value my time too much.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910427</id>
	<title>Now Ubuntu can watch you</title>
	<author>bluefoxlucid</author>
	<datestamp>1256831520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ubuntu One allows for seamless integration of your desktop  with Canonical's Servers.  Ubuntu One can keep your Evolution contacts safely stored up on the Ubuntu cloud, along with much of your other data.  This way, Canonical always has your personal data, one day maybe even your bookmarks and copies of your e-mail and IM logs, allowing you to access them from anywhere and survive system crashes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubuntu One allows for seamless integration of your desktop with Canonical 's Servers .
Ubuntu One can keep your Evolution contacts safely stored up on the Ubuntu cloud , along with much of your other data .
This way , Canonical always has your personal data , one day maybe even your bookmarks and copies of your e-mail and IM logs , allowing you to access them from anywhere and survive system crashes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ubuntu One allows for seamless integration of your desktop  with Canonical's Servers.
Ubuntu One can keep your Evolution contacts safely stored up on the Ubuntu cloud, along with much of your other data.
This way, Canonical always has your personal data, one day maybe even your bookmarks and copies of your e-mail and IM logs, allowing you to access them from anywhere and survive system crashes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29922629</id>
	<title>Re:Very positive experience so far</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256911260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, during upgrade I was prompted for the change in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf from managed=true to managed=false. I told it to stuff it and as a result my network connection came back without a hitch.</p><p>I don't understand why the upgrade process does that. If you need to take down NetworkManager temporarily then do it yourself behind the scenes, don't ask me (but warning me would be nice) and definitely don't make it into a permanent change to the configuration!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , during upgrade I was prompted for the change in /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf from managed = true to managed = false .
I told it to stuff it and as a result my network connection came back without a hitch.I do n't understand why the upgrade process does that .
If you need to take down NetworkManager temporarily then do it yourself behind the scenes , do n't ask me ( but warning me would be nice ) and definitely do n't make it into a permanent change to the configuration !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, during upgrade I was prompted for the change in /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf from managed=true to managed=false.
I told it to stuff it and as a result my network connection came back without a hitch.I don't understand why the upgrade process does that.
If you need to take down NetworkManager temporarily then do it yourself behind the scenes, don't ask me (but warning me would be nice) and definitely don't make it into a permanent change to the configuration!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911261</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909575</id>
	<title>VM images?</title>
	<author>AdmiralXyz</author>
	<datestamp>1256828160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have people made virtual machines of it yet? I usually run Ubuntu through VMware Player on Windows, could I grab an image right this second?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have people made virtual machines of it yet ?
I usually run Ubuntu through VMware Player on Windows , could I grab an image right this second ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have people made virtual machines of it yet?
I usually run Ubuntu through VMware Player on Windows, could I grab an image right this second?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29921825</id>
	<title>Re:Do we really need...</title>
	<author>falconwolf</author>
	<datestamp>1256900880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>...a new Ubuntu every 6 months?</i></p><p>It's your choice to upgrade or not, if you don't want to then don't.  Others want to so they can.</p><p><i>Seems to me that, although there will always be a place for bleeding-edge distros, its about time for mainstream, end-user focussed distros like Ubuntu to grow up a bit and settle down to a more sedate lifecycle, with a couple of years between major OS updates (just like MS and Apple) and concentrate on keeping their application repositories up-to-date.</i></p><p>Then switch to a distro more to your liking.  You want your freedom to get what you want but you would deny others their freedom.</p><p>

Falcon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...a new Ubuntu every 6 months ? It 's your choice to upgrade or not , if you do n't want to then do n't .
Others want to so they can.Seems to me that , although there will always be a place for bleeding-edge distros , its about time for mainstream , end-user focussed distros like Ubuntu to grow up a bit and settle down to a more sedate lifecycle , with a couple of years between major OS updates ( just like MS and Apple ) and concentrate on keeping their application repositories up-to-date.Then switch to a distro more to your liking .
You want your freedom to get what you want but you would deny others their freedom .
Falcon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...a new Ubuntu every 6 months?It's your choice to upgrade or not, if you don't want to then don't.
Others want to so they can.Seems to me that, although there will always be a place for bleeding-edge distros, its about time for mainstream, end-user focussed distros like Ubuntu to grow up a bit and settle down to a more sedate lifecycle, with a couple of years between major OS updates (just like MS and Apple) and concentrate on keeping their application repositories up-to-date.Then switch to a distro more to your liking.
You want your freedom to get what you want but you would deny others their freedom.
Falcon</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29910667</id>
	<title>Re:Samba?</title>
	<author>crimsun</author>
	<datestamp>1256832480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds like a great <a href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/" title="launchpad.net">blueprint</a> [launchpad.net] to be written.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like a great blueprint [ launchpad.net ] to be written .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like a great blueprint [launchpad.net] to be written.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909861</id>
	<title>They past five releases could have Flash....</title>
	<author>Sits</author>
	<datestamp>1256829420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm guessing you had some particular problem or were looking for out of the box support. I've been able to have in browser Flash support since at least 2005 regardless of Linux distro.</p><p>Slashdot isn't a great support forum though (just because I say it works for me doesn't mean it didn't work for you nor will I follow up on this. You will find better advice on <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/support/communitysupport" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ubuntu.com/support/communitysupport</a> [ubuntu.com] ) but for what it's worth you might want to take a look at <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash</a> [ubuntu.com] . Another hint is to install the libflashsupport package too (but as always some people say that makes things much worse whereas others say that makes things better).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm guessing you had some particular problem or were looking for out of the box support .
I 've been able to have in browser Flash support since at least 2005 regardless of Linux distro.Slashdot is n't a great support forum though ( just because I say it works for me does n't mean it did n't work for you nor will I follow up on this .
You will find better advice on http : //www.ubuntu.com/support/communitysupport [ ubuntu.com ] ) but for what it 's worth you might want to take a look at https : //help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash [ ubuntu.com ] .
Another hint is to install the libflashsupport package too ( but as always some people say that makes things much worse whereas others say that makes things better ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm guessing you had some particular problem or were looking for out of the box support.
I've been able to have in browser Flash support since at least 2005 regardless of Linux distro.Slashdot isn't a great support forum though (just because I say it works for me doesn't mean it didn't work for you nor will I follow up on this.
You will find better advice on http://www.ubuntu.com/support/communitysupport [ubuntu.com] ) but for what it's worth you might want to take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash [ubuntu.com] .
Another hint is to install the libflashsupport package too (but as always some people say that makes things much worse whereas others say that makes things better).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909899</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>at\_slashdot</author>
	<datestamp>1256829540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Flash works very well in Ubuntu for me, I actually installed the 64 bit version... hey, that's not even available in Windows (BTW, whose fault is that? Microsoft's or Adobe's?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Flash works very well in Ubuntu for me , I actually installed the 64 bit version... hey , that 's not even available in Windows ( BTW , whose fault is that ?
Microsoft 's or Adobe 's ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Flash works very well in Ubuntu for me, I actually installed the 64 bit version... hey, that's not even available in Windows (BTW, whose fault is that?
Microsoft's or Adobe's?
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29911747</id>
	<title>Do we really need...</title>
	<author>itsdapead</author>
	<datestamp>1256836320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...a new Ubuntu every 6 months? Seems like a support nightmare - and as other posts here have mentioned, the incremental upgrades are only really viable if you don't skip releases. It would certainly worry me if I were a hardware mfr looking to sell Ubuntu-based machines.

</p><p>Yes, there are the LTS versions, but the website pretty much steers visitors towards the latest 6-monthly release. Even then the "long term support" seems to be mainly critical bugfixes rather than keeping applications up-to-date. Now, your typical<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.er may have no problem scouring the web for a suitable tarball or<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.deb containing the latest version of Open Office, but with no established equivalent to the user-friendly installers used by Windows and Mac, non-techie users really need to get their upgrades via their distro's "install new software" tool.


</p><p>Seems to me that, although there will always be a place for bleeding-edge distros, its about time for mainstream, end-user focussed distros like Ubuntu to grow up a bit and settle down to a more sedate lifecycle, with a couple of years between major OS updates (just like MS and Apple) and concentrate on keeping their application repositories up-to-date.

</p><p>Most users want to run the latest applications, not re-configure their OS every 6 months.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...a new Ubuntu every 6 months ?
Seems like a support nightmare - and as other posts here have mentioned , the incremental upgrades are only really viable if you do n't skip releases .
It would certainly worry me if I were a hardware mfr looking to sell Ubuntu-based machines .
Yes , there are the LTS versions , but the website pretty much steers visitors towards the latest 6-monthly release .
Even then the " long term support " seems to be mainly critical bugfixes rather than keeping applications up-to-date .
Now , your typical /.er may have no problem scouring the web for a suitable tarball or .deb containing the latest version of Open Office , but with no established equivalent to the user-friendly installers used by Windows and Mac , non-techie users really need to get their upgrades via their distro 's " install new software " tool .
Seems to me that , although there will always be a place for bleeding-edge distros , its about time for mainstream , end-user focussed distros like Ubuntu to grow up a bit and settle down to a more sedate lifecycle , with a couple of years between major OS updates ( just like MS and Apple ) and concentrate on keeping their application repositories up-to-date .
Most users want to run the latest applications , not re-configure their OS every 6 months .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...a new Ubuntu every 6 months?
Seems like a support nightmare - and as other posts here have mentioned, the incremental upgrades are only really viable if you don't skip releases.
It would certainly worry me if I were a hardware mfr looking to sell Ubuntu-based machines.
Yes, there are the LTS versions, but the website pretty much steers visitors towards the latest 6-monthly release.
Even then the "long term support" seems to be mainly critical bugfixes rather than keeping applications up-to-date.
Now, your typical /.er may have no problem scouring the web for a suitable tarball or .deb containing the latest version of Open Office, but with no established equivalent to the user-friendly installers used by Windows and Mac, non-techie users really need to get their upgrades via their distro's "install new software" tool.
Seems to me that, although there will always be a place for bleeding-edge distros, its about time for mainstream, end-user focussed distros like Ubuntu to grow up a bit and settle down to a more sedate lifecycle, with a couple of years between major OS updates (just like MS and Apple) and concentrate on keeping their application repositories up-to-date.
Most users want to run the latest applications, not re-configure their OS every 6 months.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913499</id>
	<title>Re:VM images?</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1256842980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're doing it wrong, two ways.</p><p>1. Use Virtualbox, lots more features.<br>2. Ubuntu on hardware, windows virtualized if you must have it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're doing it wrong , two ways.1 .
Use Virtualbox , lots more features.2 .
Ubuntu on hardware , windows virtualized if you must have it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're doing it wrong, two ways.1.
Use Virtualbox, lots more features.2.
Ubuntu on hardware, windows virtualized if you must have it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913211</id>
	<title>First notes after installing</title>
	<author>harris s newman</author>
	<datestamp>1256841660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Boot up seems slower, it hung on reboot at the close of the upgrade, but otherwise, looks and feels solid. GREAT JOB!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Boot up seems slower , it hung on reboot at the close of the upgrade , but otherwise , looks and feels solid .
GREAT JOB !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Boot up seems slower, it hung on reboot at the close of the upgrade, but otherwise, looks and feels solid.
GREAT JOB!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913291</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime T</title>
	<author>ThatsNotPudding</author>
	<datestamp>1256842020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sure the increasing dependence on Mono will fix all the problems.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure the increasing dependence on Mono will fix all the problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure the increasing dependence on Mono will fix all the problems.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29916993</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu One: Secret Plans?</title>
	<author>lilrobbie</author>
	<datestamp>1256812860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suspect a lot of this is to create a springboard into web storage and seamless sync.  Existing backup solutions have closed clients, and are therefore not acceptable for tight inclusion into Ubuntu.  Ubuntuone allows Canonical to start moving forward with integration with the desktop client things such as file and data synchronising.  Other moves that point towards this desire to sync can be found in the heavy pushing of CouchDb for data-storage... something which also allows synchronizing between computers.</p><p>Basically, UbuntuOne is a move towards a tightly cloud integrated desktop.  The other upside is the client and protocol is fully open source, so it is possible to create and host home servers (eventually... once someone starts putting the interface together).   I agree with you the current setup is very over-priced, but I tend to suspect this is a proof of concept more than a solid business solution<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect a lot of this is to create a springboard into web storage and seamless sync .
Existing backup solutions have closed clients , and are therefore not acceptable for tight inclusion into Ubuntu .
Ubuntuone allows Canonical to start moving forward with integration with the desktop client things such as file and data synchronising .
Other moves that point towards this desire to sync can be found in the heavy pushing of CouchDb for data-storage... something which also allows synchronizing between computers.Basically , UbuntuOne is a move towards a tightly cloud integrated desktop .
The other upside is the client and protocol is fully open source , so it is possible to create and host home servers ( eventually... once someone starts putting the interface together ) .
I agree with you the current setup is very over-priced , but I tend to suspect this is a proof of concept more than a solid business solution : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect a lot of this is to create a springboard into web storage and seamless sync.
Existing backup solutions have closed clients, and are therefore not acceptable for tight inclusion into Ubuntu.
Ubuntuone allows Canonical to start moving forward with integration with the desktop client things such as file and data synchronising.
Other moves that point towards this desire to sync can be found in the heavy pushing of CouchDb for data-storage... something which also allows synchronizing between computers.Basically, UbuntuOne is a move towards a tightly cloud integrated desktop.
The other upside is the client and protocol is fully open source, so it is possible to create and host home servers (eventually... once someone starts putting the interface together).
I agree with you the current setup is very over-priced, but I tend to suspect this is a proof of concept more than a solid business solution :-)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29913627</id>
	<title>Re:USB install</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256843400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>or the "USB Startup Disk Creator"  thats available on recent Ubuntu distributions including their live CD's</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>or the " USB Startup Disk Creator " thats available on recent Ubuntu distributions including their live CD 's</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or the "USB Startup Disk Creator"  thats available on recent Ubuntu distributions including their live CD's</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29915029</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu One: Secret Plans?</title>
	<author>masterQba</author>
	<datestamp>1256848980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>i'm guessing they are aiming at something like mobileme rather than dropbox.
i have 3 ubuntu desktops right now and it would be truly fantastic if i had a way to automatically sync my settings and or home folders across all three...</htmltext>
<tokenext>i 'm guessing they are aiming at something like mobileme rather than dropbox .
i have 3 ubuntu desktops right now and it would be truly fantastic if i had a way to automatically sync my settings and or home folders across all three.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i'm guessing they are aiming at something like mobileme rather than dropbox.
i have 3 ubuntu desktops right now and it would be truly fantastic if i had a way to automatically sync my settings and or home folders across all three...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909917</id>
	<title>Re:It says: 256MB RAM...</title>
	<author>thisnamestoolong</author>
	<datestamp>1256829660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Microsoft might control the desktop market, but don't forget that the vast majority of servers and supercomputers run Linux. You might have Windows on your PC at home, but all your Interwebz are belong to Linux.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft might control the desktop market , but do n't forget that the vast majority of servers and supercomputers run Linux .
You might have Windows on your PC at home , but all your Interwebz are belong to Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft might control the desktop market, but don't forget that the vast majority of servers and supercomputers run Linux.
You might have Windows on your PC at home, but all your Interwebz are belong to Linux.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29926071</id>
	<title>Re:How to get Ubuntu 9?</title>
	<author>skiman1979</author>
	<datestamp>1256927160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The thing with complete reinstalls is that once you do a fresh install, you have to go out and install all of the additional apps you had on the old system, reconfigure various settings, things like that.  Perhaps it's not too bad though if all that involves is 'sudo apt-get install program1 program2 program3... programN' after the clean OS install.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The thing with complete reinstalls is that once you do a fresh install , you have to go out and install all of the additional apps you had on the old system , reconfigure various settings , things like that .
Perhaps it 's not too bad though if all that involves is 'sudo apt-get install program1 program2 program3... programN ' after the clean OS install .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The thing with complete reinstalls is that once you do a fresh install, you have to go out and install all of the additional apps you had on the old system, reconfigure various settings, things like that.
Perhaps it's not too bad though if all that involves is 'sudo apt-get install program1 program2 program3... programN' after the clean OS install.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_29_128205.29909357</id>
	<title>Re:How to get Ubuntu 9?</title>
	<author>Stupendoussteve</author>
	<datestamp>1256827020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IIRC it is not possible to skip a release, so you would have to update to releases in between first.</p><p>The update-manager program may be used for upgrades. If you are on a LTS release you will first have to enable normal releases in your package manager configuration (don't have Ubuntu available to tell you the actual name), otherwise you will have to wait for the next LTS release which is supposed to be 10.4.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IIRC it is not possible to skip a release , so you would have to update to releases in between first.The update-manager program may be used for upgrades .
If you are on a LTS release you will first have to enable normal releases in your package manager configuration ( do n't have Ubuntu available to tell you the actual name ) , otherwise you will have to wait for the next LTS release which is supposed to be 10.4 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IIRC it is not possible to skip a release, so you would have to update to releases in between first.The update-manager program may be used for upgrades.
If you are on a LTS release you will first have to enable normal releases in your package manager configuration (don't have Ubuntu available to tell you the actual name), otherwise you will have to wait for the next LTS release which is supposed to be 10.4.</sentencetext>
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