<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_27_1959259</id>
	<title>Film Studios May Block DVD Rentals For One Month</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1256634720000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://poncacityweloveyou.com/" rel="nofollow">Ponca City, We love you</a> writes <i>"The LA Times reports that in an effort to push consumers toward buying more movies, some major film studios are considering a new policy that would <a href="http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ct-dvd23-2009oct23,0,1148449.story">block DVDs from being offered for rental until several weeks after going on sale</a>. Under the plan, new DVD releases would be available on a purchase-only basis for a few weeks, after which time companies such as Blockbuster and Netflix would be allowed to rent the DVDs to their customers. 'The studios are wrestling with declines in DVD sales while the DVD rental market has been modestly growing,' says Reed Hastings the CEO of  Netflix. 'If we can agree on low-enough pricing, <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001\_3-10382717-261.html">delayed rental could potentially increase profits for everyone</a>.' Three studios have already tried to impose a no-rental period of about a month on Redbox, the operator of kiosks that rent movies for $1 per night, believing that  Redbox's steeply discounted price undercuts DVD sales. <a href="http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/01/the-march-of-the-redbox-litigation/">Redbox has responded by suing the studios</a>, seeking to force them to sell it DVDs simultaneously with competitors. Meanwhile, the company is stocking its kiosks with DVDs it can't otherwise obtain by buying them from retailers."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ponca City , We love you writes " The LA Times reports that in an effort to push consumers toward buying more movies , some major film studios are considering a new policy that would block DVDs from being offered for rental until several weeks after going on sale .
Under the plan , new DVD releases would be available on a purchase-only basis for a few weeks , after which time companies such as Blockbuster and Netflix would be allowed to rent the DVDs to their customers .
'The studios are wrestling with declines in DVD sales while the DVD rental market has been modestly growing, ' says Reed Hastings the CEO of Netflix .
'If we can agree on low-enough pricing , delayed rental could potentially increase profits for everyone .
' Three studios have already tried to impose a no-rental period of about a month on Redbox , the operator of kiosks that rent movies for $ 1 per night , believing that Redbox 's steeply discounted price undercuts DVD sales .
Redbox has responded by suing the studios , seeking to force them to sell it DVDs simultaneously with competitors .
Meanwhile , the company is stocking its kiosks with DVDs it ca n't otherwise obtain by buying them from retailers .
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<sentencetext>Ponca City, We love you writes "The LA Times reports that in an effort to push consumers toward buying more movies, some major film studios are considering a new policy that would block DVDs from being offered for rental until several weeks after going on sale.
Under the plan, new DVD releases would be available on a purchase-only basis for a few weeks, after which time companies such as Blockbuster and Netflix would be allowed to rent the DVDs to their customers.
'The studios are wrestling with declines in DVD sales while the DVD rental market has been modestly growing,' says Reed Hastings the CEO of  Netflix.
'If we can agree on low-enough pricing, delayed rental could potentially increase profits for everyone.
' Three studios have already tried to impose a no-rental period of about a month on Redbox, the operator of kiosks that rent movies for $1 per night, believing that  Redbox's steeply discounted price undercuts DVD sales.
Redbox has responded by suing the studios, seeking to force them to sell it DVDs simultaneously with competitors.
Meanwhile, the company is stocking its kiosks with DVDs it can't otherwise obtain by buying them from retailers.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889705</id>
	<title>Even if legal, stupid.</title>
	<author>dpbsmith</author>
	<datestamp>1256639940000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>First of all, there's right of first sale. Once you own it, it's yours and you can rent it, or sell it to someone else. I don't know how the studios think they can keep it out of Red Box or NetFlix's hands. The studios can refuse to sell it to Red Box or NetFlix, but unless they're really stupid they have to sell it to <em>someone</em>, and the miracle of the marketplace takes over and some of <em>those</em> owners will be happy to divert them to a willing buyer.</p><p>And it's not as if it were going to force people to buy the DVD. It's just going to result in a delay before most people see it. During that time, there won't be an opportunity for word-of-mouth, which is what really sells products, to build. There won't be a chance for people who aren't already sure they love the movie to rent it, then decide to buy it. There will be several more weeks for them to forget about the review they read when it was in the theatre. Several more weeks for them to be at the supermarket standing in front of the Red Box vending machine because they just feel like a movie tonight, and choosing some other movie.</p><p>And just that much incentive for people to tune out of the whole "legal" DVD marketplace, as the stuff that's available cheaply for rent becomes older and less interesting.</p><p>If they want to help their business, they should be trying to figure out how to get more product into the hands of consumers, not less.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First of all , there 's right of first sale .
Once you own it , it 's yours and you can rent it , or sell it to someone else .
I do n't know how the studios think they can keep it out of Red Box or NetFlix 's hands .
The studios can refuse to sell it to Red Box or NetFlix , but unless they 're really stupid they have to sell it to someone , and the miracle of the marketplace takes over and some of those owners will be happy to divert them to a willing buyer.And it 's not as if it were going to force people to buy the DVD .
It 's just going to result in a delay before most people see it .
During that time , there wo n't be an opportunity for word-of-mouth , which is what really sells products , to build .
There wo n't be a chance for people who are n't already sure they love the movie to rent it , then decide to buy it .
There will be several more weeks for them to forget about the review they read when it was in the theatre .
Several more weeks for them to be at the supermarket standing in front of the Red Box vending machine because they just feel like a movie tonight , and choosing some other movie.And just that much incentive for people to tune out of the whole " legal " DVD marketplace , as the stuff that 's available cheaply for rent becomes older and less interesting.If they want to help their business , they should be trying to figure out how to get more product into the hands of consumers , not less .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First of all, there's right of first sale.
Once you own it, it's yours and you can rent it, or sell it to someone else.
I don't know how the studios think they can keep it out of Red Box or NetFlix's hands.
The studios can refuse to sell it to Red Box or NetFlix, but unless they're really stupid they have to sell it to someone, and the miracle of the marketplace takes over and some of those owners will be happy to divert them to a willing buyer.And it's not as if it were going to force people to buy the DVD.
It's just going to result in a delay before most people see it.
During that time, there won't be an opportunity for word-of-mouth, which is what really sells products, to build.
There won't be a chance for people who aren't already sure they love the movie to rent it, then decide to buy it.
There will be several more weeks for them to forget about the review they read when it was in the theatre.
Several more weeks for them to be at the supermarket standing in front of the Red Box vending machine because they just feel like a movie tonight, and choosing some other movie.And just that much incentive for people to tune out of the whole "legal" DVD marketplace, as the stuff that's available cheaply for rent becomes older and less interesting.If they want to help their business, they should be trying to figure out how to get more product into the hands of consumers, not less.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889905</id>
	<title>RedBox Lawsuits - Copyright Misuse</title>
	<author>Absolut187</author>
	<datestamp>1256640660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are actually three Redbox lawsuits in Delaware District Court.<br>From PACER, the cases are:</p><p>(1)  Case number:  1:08-cv-00766-RBK-JS<br>Redbox Automated Retail LLC v. Universal Studios Home Entertainment LLC et al</p><p>(2)  Case number: 1:09-cv-00613-RBK<br>Redbox Automated Retail LLC v. Warner Home Video</p><p>(3)  1:09-cv-00592-RBK<br>Redbox Automated Retail LLC v. Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment LLC</p><p>Redbox is asking the court to find <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright\_misuse" title="wikipedia.org">"copyright misuse"</a> [wikipedia.org] which is an antitrust doctrine that courts use when a company tries to abuse the rights granted under copyright.  Redbox is seeking an injunction basically requiring Universal/Warner/Fox to sell it DVDs.</p><p>Factually, the complaint basically alleges that the studios are "shaking down" Redbox for more money.  E.g., Universal wants Redbox to sign a "revenue sharing agreement" or Universal will stop supplying DVDs.  The agreement states that Redbox will not rent DVDs until 45 days after the "DVD sell-through street date established by [Universal]."  It also limits each Redbox kiosk to 8 copies of any movie.  It also requires Redbox to destroy all the DVDs when it is done renting them.</p><p>The big case on copyright misuse is BMI v. CBS, 441 U.S. 1.  (<a href="http://www.golishlaw.com/academic/bmi\_v\_ca.htm" title="golishlaw.com">summary</a> [golishlaw.com])</p><p>Sadly for redbox fans, the legal answer, based on BMI, is most likely that the studios can  require whatever the fuck they want in their contracts.  We shall see.</p><p>
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<tokenext>There are actually three Redbox lawsuits in Delaware District Court.From PACER , the cases are : ( 1 ) Case number : 1 : 08-cv-00766-RBK-JSRedbox Automated Retail LLC v. Universal Studios Home Entertainment LLC et al ( 2 ) Case number : 1 : 09-cv-00613-RBKRedbox Automated Retail LLC v. Warner Home Video ( 3 ) 1 : 09-cv-00592-RBKRedbox Automated Retail LLC v. Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment LLCRedbox is asking the court to find " copyright misuse " [ wikipedia.org ] which is an antitrust doctrine that courts use when a company tries to abuse the rights granted under copyright .
Redbox is seeking an injunction basically requiring Universal/Warner/Fox to sell it DVDs.Factually , the complaint basically alleges that the studios are " shaking down " Redbox for more money .
E.g. , Universal wants Redbox to sign a " revenue sharing agreement " or Universal will stop supplying DVDs .
The agreement states that Redbox will not rent DVDs until 45 days after the " DVD sell-through street date established by [ Universal ] .
" It also limits each Redbox kiosk to 8 copies of any movie .
It also requires Redbox to destroy all the DVDs when it is done renting them.The big case on copyright misuse is BMI v. CBS , 441 U.S. 1. ( summary [ golishlaw.com ] ) Sadly for redbox fans , the legal answer , based on BMI , is most likely that the studios can require whatever the fuck they want in their contracts .
We shall see .
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<sentencetext>There are actually three Redbox lawsuits in Delaware District Court.From PACER, the cases are:(1)  Case number:  1:08-cv-00766-RBK-JSRedbox Automated Retail LLC v. Universal Studios Home Entertainment LLC et al(2)  Case number: 1:09-cv-00613-RBKRedbox Automated Retail LLC v. Warner Home Video(3)  1:09-cv-00592-RBKRedbox Automated Retail LLC v. Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment LLCRedbox is asking the court to find "copyright misuse" [wikipedia.org] which is an antitrust doctrine that courts use when a company tries to abuse the rights granted under copyright.
Redbox is seeking an injunction basically requiring Universal/Warner/Fox to sell it DVDs.Factually, the complaint basically alleges that the studios are "shaking down" Redbox for more money.
E.g., Universal wants Redbox to sign a "revenue sharing agreement" or Universal will stop supplying DVDs.
The agreement states that Redbox will not rent DVDs until 45 days after the "DVD sell-through street date established by [Universal].
"  It also limits each Redbox kiosk to 8 copies of any movie.
It also requires Redbox to destroy all the DVDs when it is done renting them.The big case on copyright misuse is BMI v. CBS, 441 U.S. 1.  (summary [golishlaw.com])Sadly for redbox fans, the legal answer, based on BMI, is most likely that the studios can  require whatever the fuck they want in their contracts.
We shall see.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890657</id>
	<title>Seriously?</title>
	<author>shoptroll</author>
	<datestamp>1256643900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I started to use Netflix to watch movies because I decided that it was much more convenient to rent a movie I wanted to watch instead of dealing with the hassle of BitTorrent and running the risks that includes.  So now they want to clamp down on that, presumably because it's cutting into their profits.  How many more times are we going to see this song and dance from these spoiled brats?  First Hulu, now this.</p><p>If they were smart they would realize that 1) we're in a recession, 2) people are effectively telling them movies cost too much to own.  If people are jumping on board rental services (which have existed for years, and rental stores predate them since the 70's or earlier) after they scared everyone from pirating, wouldn't that be a very clear indication that the price of a DVD is too high?</p><p>Next thing you know they're going to get rentals classified as illegal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I started to use Netflix to watch movies because I decided that it was much more convenient to rent a movie I wanted to watch instead of dealing with the hassle of BitTorrent and running the risks that includes .
So now they want to clamp down on that , presumably because it 's cutting into their profits .
How many more times are we going to see this song and dance from these spoiled brats ?
First Hulu , now this.If they were smart they would realize that 1 ) we 're in a recession , 2 ) people are effectively telling them movies cost too much to own .
If people are jumping on board rental services ( which have existed for years , and rental stores predate them since the 70 's or earlier ) after they scared everyone from pirating , would n't that be a very clear indication that the price of a DVD is too high ? Next thing you know they 're going to get rentals classified as illegal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I started to use Netflix to watch movies because I decided that it was much more convenient to rent a movie I wanted to watch instead of dealing with the hassle of BitTorrent and running the risks that includes.
So now they want to clamp down on that, presumably because it's cutting into their profits.
How many more times are we going to see this song and dance from these spoiled brats?
First Hulu, now this.If they were smart they would realize that 1) we're in a recession, 2) people are effectively telling them movies cost too much to own.
If people are jumping on board rental services (which have existed for years, and rental stores predate them since the 70's or earlier) after they scared everyone from pirating, wouldn't that be a very clear indication that the price of a DVD is too high?Next thing you know they're going to get rentals classified as illegal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890149</id>
	<title>Re:hey, it beats</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1256641740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>trying to sell people what they want or how they want it</i>
<br>
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People want free, anytime they can get it.  Not a good business model.</htmltext>
<tokenext>trying to sell people what they want or how they want it People want free , anytime they can get it .
Not a good business model .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>trying to sell people what they want or how they want it


People want free, anytime they can get it.
Not a good business model.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29893463</id>
	<title>Re:You can buy new movies?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256668020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Pirate bay is gone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Pirate bay is gone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Pirate bay is gone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889533</id>
	<title>Re:Increase profits for everyone...</title>
	<author>longfalcon</author>
	<datestamp>1256639340000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>there is no "profit" for the consumer. there is a product that consumer can choose to purchase/rent/whatever.</p><p>and you can thank "capitalism" that Redbox even exists and provides a great service for a minimal fee.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>there is no " profit " for the consumer .
there is a product that consumer can choose to purchase/rent/whatever.and you can thank " capitalism " that Redbox even exists and provides a great service for a minimal fee .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there is no "profit" for the consumer.
there is a product that consumer can choose to purchase/rent/whatever.and you can thank "capitalism" that Redbox even exists and provides a great service for a minimal fee.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889557</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone explain..</title>
	<author>Mortlath</author>
	<datestamp>1256639460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>From the linked article:<blockquote><div><p> To get them on board, studios probably would have to offer them a lower wholesale price than that paid by retailers, currently $18 for most standard DVDs and $25 for high-definition Blu-ray discs.</p></div>
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	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From the linked article : To get them on board , studios probably would have to offer them a lower wholesale price than that paid by retailers , currently $ 18 for most standard DVDs and $ 25 for high-definition Blu-ray discs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the linked article: To get them on board, studios probably would have to offer them a lower wholesale price than that paid by retailers, currently $18 for most standard DVDs and $25 for high-definition Blu-ray discs.

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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29895685</id>
	<title>Re:I used to buy DVDs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256737740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know what store you shop at, but every store I've ever bought DVDs/CDs/Games gives the one exception that if the item is actually damaged they will exchange it for another copy of the same thing.  Just to name a few Walmart, Target, even Gamestop.  If your store isn't doing that, then you need to pick another store.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know what store you shop at , but every store I 've ever bought DVDs/CDs/Games gives the one exception that if the item is actually damaged they will exchange it for another copy of the same thing .
Just to name a few Walmart , Target , even Gamestop .
If your store is n't doing that , then you need to pick another store .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know what store you shop at, but every store I've ever bought DVDs/CDs/Games gives the one exception that if the item is actually damaged they will exchange it for another copy of the same thing.
Just to name a few Walmart, Target, even Gamestop.
If your store isn't doing that, then you need to pick another store.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889441</id>
	<title>Re:Redbox buying DVDs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256639040000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Just curious: does he literally drive to each one and buy out their stock, or does he have some kind of ordering arrangement?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just curious : does he literally drive to each one and buy out their stock , or does he have some kind of ordering arrangement ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just curious: does he literally drive to each one and buy out their stock, or does he have some kind of ordering arrangement?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29892861</id>
	<title>New movie's out</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256659680000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can't go rent it? Don't care enough to buy it? Surely this will not cause anyone on this planet to download it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't go rent it ?
Do n't care enough to buy it ?
Surely this will not cause anyone on this planet to download it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't go rent it?
Don't care enough to buy it?
Surely this will not cause anyone on this planet to download it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889397</id>
	<title>First sale doctrine?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256638800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wasn't this settled in the 1980's Betamax Supreme Court judgment?  I thought that movie rental shops had the right of first sale and don't need approval from studios to rent movies, or am I missing something here?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Was n't this settled in the 1980 's Betamax Supreme Court judgment ?
I thought that movie rental shops had the right of first sale and do n't need approval from studios to rent movies , or am I missing something here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wasn't this settled in the 1980's Betamax Supreme Court judgment?
I thought that movie rental shops had the right of first sale and don't need approval from studios to rent movies, or am I missing something here?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29899079</id>
	<title>Re:Assholes</title>
	<author>bluefoxlucid</author>
	<datestamp>1256752200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Your arguments don't even make the most basic sense and come from the complete and total perspective of a moron.</p><p>
If God created viruses, they exist for a reason.  How is Man to destroy viruses, and cancers and other shit God put in place to not be tampered with?
</p><p>
If God did not create viruses, then viruses exist effectively randomly.  A bunch of shit happens in the world that eventually bumps chemicals together in a way that hasn't quite lined up before.  There's infinite appropriate forms here; and in any case, the virus basically attaches to a cell in the same way other things in your body attach to cells (i.e. it hijacks a necessary facility), so removing the underlying function that lets these things exist means simply cutting out anything that makes life possible.  No matter what you do, some form of disease must continue to exist; hell, look at Prions, just proteins that happen to cause RNA to arrange itself into a strand which happens to proscribe the creation of more prions.
</p><p>
How do you expect to cure randomness?
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<tokenext>Your arguments do n't even make the most basic sense and come from the complete and total perspective of a moron .
If God created viruses , they exist for a reason .
How is Man to destroy viruses , and cancers and other shit God put in place to not be tampered with ?
If God did not create viruses , then viruses exist effectively randomly .
A bunch of shit happens in the world that eventually bumps chemicals together in a way that has n't quite lined up before .
There 's infinite appropriate forms here ; and in any case , the virus basically attaches to a cell in the same way other things in your body attach to cells ( i.e .
it hijacks a necessary facility ) , so removing the underlying function that lets these things exist means simply cutting out anything that makes life possible .
No matter what you do , some form of disease must continue to exist ; hell , look at Prions , just proteins that happen to cause RNA to arrange itself into a strand which happens to proscribe the creation of more prions .
How do you expect to cure randomness ?</tokentext>
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Your arguments don't even make the most basic sense and come from the complete and total perspective of a moron.
If God created viruses, they exist for a reason.
How is Man to destroy viruses, and cancers and other shit God put in place to not be tampered with?
If God did not create viruses, then viruses exist effectively randomly.
A bunch of shit happens in the world that eventually bumps chemicals together in a way that hasn't quite lined up before.
There's infinite appropriate forms here; and in any case, the virus basically attaches to a cell in the same way other things in your body attach to cells (i.e.
it hijacks a necessary facility), so removing the underlying function that lets these things exist means simply cutting out anything that makes life possible.
No matter what you do, some form of disease must continue to exist; hell, look at Prions, just proteins that happen to cause RNA to arrange itself into a strand which happens to proscribe the creation of more prions.
How do you expect to cure randomness?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890235</id>
	<title>Re:First sale doctrine</title>
	<author>Mortlath</author>
	<datestamp>1256642100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From the linked article in the summary:<blockquote><div><p> To get them on board, studios probably would have to offer them a lower wholesale price than that paid by retailers, currently $18 for most standard DVDs and $25 for high-definition Blu-ray discs.</p></div>
</blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From the linked article in the summary : To get them on board , studios probably would have to offer them a lower wholesale price than that paid by retailers , currently $ 18 for most standard DVDs and $ 25 for high-definition Blu-ray discs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the linked article in the summary: To get them on board, studios probably would have to offer them a lower wholesale price than that paid by retailers, currently $18 for most standard DVDs and $25 for high-definition Blu-ray discs.

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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889465</id>
	<title>First sale doctrine</title>
	<author>kimvette</author>
	<datestamp>1256639160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since the first sale doctrine applies to items such as DVDs, why can't blockbuster, netflix, etc. send a few employees to Best Buy, Sprawl Mart, etc. to purchase the DVDs and then they can rent those out? Since it's a product purchased off the shelf exactly like a book, there is nothing which can legally prevent their lending it out, renting it out, or even reselling it, as long as copyright is not violated.</p><p>Seriously, I'd like to know what can stop them from doing it. I know if I were an attorney with blockbuster or Netflix, I'd have my lawyers filing suit right now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since the first sale doctrine applies to items such as DVDs , why ca n't blockbuster , netflix , etc .
send a few employees to Best Buy , Sprawl Mart , etc .
to purchase the DVDs and then they can rent those out ?
Since it 's a product purchased off the shelf exactly like a book , there is nothing which can legally prevent their lending it out , renting it out , or even reselling it , as long as copyright is not violated.Seriously , I 'd like to know what can stop them from doing it .
I know if I were an attorney with blockbuster or Netflix , I 'd have my lawyers filing suit right now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since the first sale doctrine applies to items such as DVDs, why can't blockbuster, netflix, etc.
send a few employees to Best Buy, Sprawl Mart, etc.
to purchase the DVDs and then they can rent those out?
Since it's a product purchased off the shelf exactly like a book, there is nothing which can legally prevent their lending it out, renting it out, or even reselling it, as long as copyright is not violated.Seriously, I'd like to know what can stop them from doing it.
I know if I were an attorney with blockbuster or Netflix, I'd have my lawyers filing suit right now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891153</id>
	<title>Re:Right &amp; Wrong</title>
	<author>Nithendil</author>
	<datestamp>1256646420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most Blockbusters will deduct the rental fee if you purchase the rental; the additional price is on the receipt. I'm not sure if they do this with games, although I believe it would be a good idea.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most Blockbusters will deduct the rental fee if you purchase the rental ; the additional price is on the receipt .
I 'm not sure if they do this with games , although I believe it would be a good idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most Blockbusters will deduct the rental fee if you purchase the rental; the additional price is on the receipt.
I'm not sure if they do this with games, although I believe it would be a good idea.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29894631</id>
	<title>Re:Law of unintended consequences</title>
	<author>imakemusic</author>
	<datestamp>1256728080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wouldn't delaying the renting or for-pay downloading of movies after the DVD release result in a huge increase in downloaded torrents</p> </div><p>Yes, probably, and then they can say "Look! Piracy is on the increases! We have to do something about it!" and they can push for the next new law/regulation/deal.<br> <br>
*Adjusts tinfoil hat*</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't delaying the renting or for-pay downloading of movies after the DVD release result in a huge increase in downloaded torrents Yes , probably , and then they can say " Look !
Piracy is on the increases !
We have to do something about it !
" and they can push for the next new law/regulation/deal .
* Adjusts tinfoil hat *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't delaying the renting or for-pay downloading of movies after the DVD release result in a huge increase in downloaded torrents Yes, probably, and then they can say "Look!
Piracy is on the increases!
We have to do something about it!
" and they can push for the next new law/regulation/deal.
*Adjusts tinfoil hat*
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889481</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889393</id>
	<title>by that time</title>
	<author>v1</author>
	<datestamp>1256638800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll have gotten impatient and found it on BT.</p><p>oh ya, <i>that's</i> going to help sales....</p><p>brilliant.  simply brilliant.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll have gotten impatient and found it on BT.oh ya , that 's going to help sales....brilliant .
simply brilliant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll have gotten impatient and found it on BT.oh ya, that's going to help sales....brilliant.
simply brilliant.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29900609</id>
	<title>If a tree falls...</title>
	<author>knarf</author>
	<datestamp>1256758140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...in the forest, and nobody is there to hear it... does it make a sound?</p><p>If a movie is released in whatever format, and nobody is willing to buy it, does it make any difference?</p><p>The 'entertainment industry' is not standing on the edge of the cliff anymore. They made like a lemming and jumped off, in full expectation to suddenly grow wings and take to the sky. Unfortunately for them that plan did not work out and now they are in the hands of gravity, on their way down to the pointy cliffs of obsolescence.</p><p>If the industry crashes and burns, and nobody cares, does it make any difference?</p><p>No, it doesn't. Have fun on the way down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...in the forest , and nobody is there to hear it... does it make a sound ? If a movie is released in whatever format , and nobody is willing to buy it , does it make any difference ? The 'entertainment industry ' is not standing on the edge of the cliff anymore .
They made like a lemming and jumped off , in full expectation to suddenly grow wings and take to the sky .
Unfortunately for them that plan did not work out and now they are in the hands of gravity , on their way down to the pointy cliffs of obsolescence.If the industry crashes and burns , and nobody cares , does it make any difference ? No , it does n't .
Have fun on the way down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...in the forest, and nobody is there to hear it... does it make a sound?If a movie is released in whatever format, and nobody is willing to buy it, does it make any difference?The 'entertainment industry' is not standing on the edge of the cliff anymore.
They made like a lemming and jumped off, in full expectation to suddenly grow wings and take to the sky.
Unfortunately for them that plan did not work out and now they are in the hands of gravity, on their way down to the pointy cliffs of obsolescence.If the industry crashes and burns, and nobody cares, does it make any difference?No, it doesn't.
Have fun on the way down.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29894793</id>
	<title>It's simple</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256729580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Quit making such shitty movies that nobody wants to see more than once. Profit!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Quit making such shitty movies that nobody wants to see more than once .
Profit !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quit making such shitty movies that nobody wants to see more than once.
Profit!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891517</id>
	<title>On days like this, I have no pity</title>
	<author>mmalove</author>
	<datestamp>1256648400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it any wonder why people can steal, deny profits, violate copyrights, or whatever else you want to call it: and people just don't care?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it any wonder why people can steal , deny profits , violate copyrights , or whatever else you want to call it : and people just do n't care ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it any wonder why people can steal, deny profits, violate copyrights, or whatever else you want to call it: and people just don't care?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29893865</id>
	<title>Re:First sale doctrine?</title>
	<author>CodeBuster</author>
	<datestamp>1256673120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As others have pointed out, using the Redbox example, there is nothing stopping anyone from purchasing a movie at retail and then renting it out. The studios may choose not to sell to you directly in bulk at a discounted price, but that doesn't mean that rentals of DVDs purchased at Walmart, for example, for 1$ per night are not profitable; The Redbox example proves that they are. If Redbox cannot get new movies through their regular supply chains then DVDs purchased from a big box retailer or Walmart work almost as well (profits might be slightly less than with bulk DVDs).</htmltext>
<tokenext>As others have pointed out , using the Redbox example , there is nothing stopping anyone from purchasing a movie at retail and then renting it out .
The studios may choose not to sell to you directly in bulk at a discounted price , but that does n't mean that rentals of DVDs purchased at Walmart , for example , for 1 $ per night are not profitable ; The Redbox example proves that they are .
If Redbox can not get new movies through their regular supply chains then DVDs purchased from a big box retailer or Walmart work almost as well ( profits might be slightly less than with bulk DVDs ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As others have pointed out, using the Redbox example, there is nothing stopping anyone from purchasing a movie at retail and then renting it out.
The studios may choose not to sell to you directly in bulk at a discounted price, but that doesn't mean that rentals of DVDs purchased at Walmart, for example, for 1$ per night are not profitable; The Redbox example proves that they are.
If Redbox cannot get new movies through their regular supply chains then DVDs purchased from a big box retailer or Walmart work almost as well (profits might be slightly less than with bulk DVDs).</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890571</id>
	<title>You can buy new movies?</title>
	<author>paulmac84</author>
	<datestamp>1256643480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I though the only place to get new movies was through The Pirate Bay.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I though the only place to get new movies was through The Pirate Bay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I though the only place to get new movies was through The Pirate Bay.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889791</id>
	<title>Re:First sale doctrine</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1256640240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They are the same except often the consumer one states you can't rent it or use it for public viewings. While there is no button to signal whether you disagree or not, I doubt Blockbuster would get away with it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They are the same except often the consumer one states you ca n't rent it or use it for public viewings .
While there is no button to signal whether you disagree or not , I doubt Blockbuster would get away with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are the same except often the consumer one states you can't rent it or use it for public viewings.
While there is no button to signal whether you disagree or not, I doubt Blockbuster would get away with it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889405</id>
	<title>Can someone explain..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256638860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How this is possible?  I don't understand the whole rental world.  How does the studio have any control over it?  Sure, they own the copyright on the material on the disk but I own the disk.  I can sell it, why can't I rent it out to someone?</p><p>What legal principle prevents me from loaning out, selling, or renting any (physical) CD/DVD/Book that I have purchased?  Do these companies seriously have to buy special versions that they rent out?  They have copyright which let's them dictate copying or performance, giving out the physical item I bought doesn't seem to fall in that category.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How this is possible ?
I do n't understand the whole rental world .
How does the studio have any control over it ?
Sure , they own the copyright on the material on the disk but I own the disk .
I can sell it , why ca n't I rent it out to someone ? What legal principle prevents me from loaning out , selling , or renting any ( physical ) CD/DVD/Book that I have purchased ?
Do these companies seriously have to buy special versions that they rent out ?
They have copyright which let 's them dictate copying or performance , giving out the physical item I bought does n't seem to fall in that category .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How this is possible?
I don't understand the whole rental world.
How does the studio have any control over it?
Sure, they own the copyright on the material on the disk but I own the disk.
I can sell it, why can't I rent it out to someone?What legal principle prevents me from loaning out, selling, or renting any (physical) CD/DVD/Book that I have purchased?
Do these companies seriously have to buy special versions that they rent out?
They have copyright which let's them dictate copying or performance, giving out the physical item I bought doesn't seem to fall in that category.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890537</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone explain..</title>
	<author>steve\_bryan</author>
	<datestamp>1256643300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What the studios have are lawyers and huge budgets to devote to litigation regardless of its merit. When you are on the receiving end of that onslaught you need a budget to handle it or you end up, like ReplayTV, facing bankruptcy. Regarding the Sony Betamax ruling it was only 5-4 so it is not exactly unassailable. In fact the DMCA, purchased from your friendly local Congress, has done a fairly effective job of gutting fair use and as time passes and developments continue it may finish the job.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What the studios have are lawyers and huge budgets to devote to litigation regardless of its merit .
When you are on the receiving end of that onslaught you need a budget to handle it or you end up , like ReplayTV , facing bankruptcy .
Regarding the Sony Betamax ruling it was only 5-4 so it is not exactly unassailable .
In fact the DMCA , purchased from your friendly local Congress , has done a fairly effective job of gutting fair use and as time passes and developments continue it may finish the job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the studios have are lawyers and huge budgets to devote to litigation regardless of its merit.
When you are on the receiving end of that onslaught you need a budget to handle it or you end up, like ReplayTV, facing bankruptcy.
Regarding the Sony Betamax ruling it was only 5-4 so it is not exactly unassailable.
In fact the DMCA, purchased from your friendly local Congress, has done a fairly effective job of gutting fair use and as time passes and developments continue it may finish the job.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29894551</id>
	<title>Re:Mommy, I wanna watch Sin-duh-weh-wuh</title>
	<author>RMH101</author>
	<datestamp>1256726940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The *only* films that get watched multiple times are the kids ones in our house.  This is exactly why I don't want them on DVD - they'd get scratched and rendered unplayable in short order.  Instead, they're ripped AVIs getting played through XBMC to my TV.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The * only * films that get watched multiple times are the kids ones in our house .
This is exactly why I do n't want them on DVD - they 'd get scratched and rendered unplayable in short order .
Instead , they 're ripped AVIs getting played through XBMC to my TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The *only* films that get watched multiple times are the kids ones in our house.
This is exactly why I don't want them on DVD - they'd get scratched and rendered unplayable in short order.
Instead, they're ripped AVIs getting played through XBMC to my TV.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891661</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29893753</id>
	<title>I told you so...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256671800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I told you many months ago that the studios are following the same path as music.  Next up:  rampant downloading of movies, and lawsuits.  They don't get it either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I told you many months ago that the studios are following the same path as music .
Next up : rampant downloading of movies , and lawsuits .
They do n't get it either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I told you many months ago that the studios are following the same path as music.
Next up:  rampant downloading of movies, and lawsuits.
They don't get it either.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890087</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone explain..</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1256641440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What you do own is a a very specific license that grants you the ability to play the content of the disc that you bought in ways that have been determined by the content's owners.</p></div><p>That's when you "own" a digital copy, since you aren't buying a physical copy but rather a license.  However, when you buy a physical medium, you own that copy.  You can loan it, resell it, or do anything you want except for copying it and distributing those copies.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What you do own is a a very specific license that grants you the ability to play the content of the disc that you bought in ways that have been determined by the content 's owners.That 's when you " own " a digital copy , since you are n't buying a physical copy but rather a license .
However , when you buy a physical medium , you own that copy .
You can loan it , resell it , or do anything you want except for copying it and distributing those copies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What you do own is a a very specific license that grants you the ability to play the content of the disc that you bought in ways that have been determined by the content's owners.That's when you "own" a digital copy, since you aren't buying a physical copy but rather a license.
However, when you buy a physical medium, you own that copy.
You can loan it, resell it, or do anything you want except for copying it and distributing those copies.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889517</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890333</id>
	<title>Re:Will anyone care?</title>
	<author>Animats</author>
	<datestamp>1256642520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
<i>Does anyone actually "line up" to see a movie when it's first released anymore? </i>
</p><p>
Standing in line is so last-cen.
</p><p>
I remember going to the last Star Wars movie (not the cartoon) on the day it opened, almost a decade ago.  We were expecting long lines, and so was the theater; they had extra security guards and ushers.  There was no line, the theater wasn't full, and the movie sucked. And this was in the theater complex next to SGI and Google HQ.
</p><p>
I haven't had to stand in line to get into a theater in this decade. Movie theaters used to deliberately create lines by selling tickets at too few windows.  They don't dare do that now.  Now, if you see a line at a theater, you think, "Hey, let's go home and download it instead".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone actually " line up " to see a movie when it 's first released anymore ?
Standing in line is so last-cen .
I remember going to the last Star Wars movie ( not the cartoon ) on the day it opened , almost a decade ago .
We were expecting long lines , and so was the theater ; they had extra security guards and ushers .
There was no line , the theater was n't full , and the movie sucked .
And this was in the theater complex next to SGI and Google HQ .
I have n't had to stand in line to get into a theater in this decade .
Movie theaters used to deliberately create lines by selling tickets at too few windows .
They do n't dare do that now .
Now , if you see a line at a theater , you think , " Hey , let 's go home and download it instead " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Does anyone actually "line up" to see a movie when it's first released anymore?
Standing in line is so last-cen.
I remember going to the last Star Wars movie (not the cartoon) on the day it opened, almost a decade ago.
We were expecting long lines, and so was the theater; they had extra security guards and ushers.
There was no line, the theater wasn't full, and the movie sucked.
And this was in the theater complex next to SGI and Google HQ.
I haven't had to stand in line to get into a theater in this decade.
Movie theaters used to deliberately create lines by selling tickets at too few windows.
They don't dare do that now.
Now, if you see a line at a theater, you think, "Hey, let's go home and download it instead".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889429</id>
	<title>failure in progress</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1256638980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It seems that they too believe that their media isn't worth seeing more than once.  Otherwise, it would be worth buying rather than renting for a night or two and leaving it at that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems that they too believe that their media is n't worth seeing more than once .
Otherwise , it would be worth buying rather than renting for a night or two and leaving it at that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems that they too believe that their media isn't worth seeing more than once.
Otherwise, it would be worth buying rather than renting for a night or two and leaving it at that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889415</id>
	<title>Another epic fail</title>
	<author>WillyWanker</author>
	<datestamp>1256638920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe people aren't buying DVDs cause there isn't much worth owning anymore, or they have found, in a recession, it's just more cost-effective to rent it rather than buy it. How many DVDs do you really watch 15+ times that makes buying it worthwhile?<br><br>So if this is the case, which seems most likely, their "plan" is going to flop. You can't force people to buy something they don't want. They'll just wait the extra month till the DVD hits the rental market, watching other rentals in the meantime.<br><br>I mean seriously, do these idiots really get paid for their "brilliance"? Who are the morons that come up with these ideas, not to mention those that hop on the bandwagon and think it's the best thing since sliced bread? How do they manage to stay employed?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe people are n't buying DVDs cause there is n't much worth owning anymore , or they have found , in a recession , it 's just more cost-effective to rent it rather than buy it .
How many DVDs do you really watch 15 + times that makes buying it worthwhile ? So if this is the case , which seems most likely , their " plan " is going to flop .
You ca n't force people to buy something they do n't want .
They 'll just wait the extra month till the DVD hits the rental market , watching other rentals in the meantime.I mean seriously , do these idiots really get paid for their " brilliance " ?
Who are the morons that come up with these ideas , not to mention those that hop on the bandwagon and think it 's the best thing since sliced bread ?
How do they manage to stay employed ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe people aren't buying DVDs cause there isn't much worth owning anymore, or they have found, in a recession, it's just more cost-effective to rent it rather than buy it.
How many DVDs do you really watch 15+ times that makes buying it worthwhile?So if this is the case, which seems most likely, their "plan" is going to flop.
You can't force people to buy something they don't want.
They'll just wait the extra month till the DVD hits the rental market, watching other rentals in the meantime.I mean seriously, do these idiots really get paid for their "brilliance"?
Who are the morons that come up with these ideas, not to mention those that hop on the bandwagon and think it's the best thing since sliced bread?
How do they manage to stay employed?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889875</id>
	<title>Re:Another Viewpoint</title>
	<author>jmorris42</author>
	<datestamp>1256640540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Never will it be the fact that buying it on blu-ray allows me to play it on only one device<br>&gt; in my house when I have many more capable of playing movies.</p><p>Which wouldn't be a problem if blu-ray was as cracked as DVD, drop it down to DVD for the kids room, the portable DVD players, the car, etc.  But no they had to put hard ass crypto on it so bad the players required huge processors just to do the crypto and of course for the JAVA bullcrap.  Most BD players have frickin' cooling fans!</p><p>I won't be buying BD until it plays on VLC or Mplayer.  Because if either of those can play it, extracting the movie is straightforward.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Never will it be the fact that buying it on blu-ray allows me to play it on only one device &gt; in my house when I have many more capable of playing movies.Which would n't be a problem if blu-ray was as cracked as DVD , drop it down to DVD for the kids room , the portable DVD players , the car , etc .
But no they had to put hard ass crypto on it so bad the players required huge processors just to do the crypto and of course for the JAVA bullcrap .
Most BD players have frickin ' cooling fans ! I wo n't be buying BD until it plays on VLC or Mplayer .
Because if either of those can play it , extracting the movie is straightforward .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Never will it be the fact that buying it on blu-ray allows me to play it on only one device&gt; in my house when I have many more capable of playing movies.Which wouldn't be a problem if blu-ray was as cracked as DVD, drop it down to DVD for the kids room, the portable DVD players, the car, etc.
But no they had to put hard ass crypto on it so bad the players required huge processors just to do the crypto and of course for the JAVA bullcrap.
Most BD players have frickin' cooling fans!I won't be buying BD until it plays on VLC or Mplayer.
Because if either of those can play it, extracting the movie is straightforward.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889599</id>
	<title>Re:Increase profits for everyone...</title>
	<author>sbeckstead</author>
	<datestamp>1256639580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hey you could always try communism.  Oh wait, no you can't it already failed.<br>
 Perhaps socialism? No that's not really an economics system.  Oh well, stuck with capitalism i guess.  You're boned dude.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey you could always try communism .
Oh wait , no you ca n't it already failed .
Perhaps socialism ?
No that 's not really an economics system .
Oh well , stuck with capitalism i guess .
You 're boned dude .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey you could always try communism.
Oh wait, no you can't it already failed.
Perhaps socialism?
No that's not really an economics system.
Oh well, stuck with capitalism i guess.
You're boned dude.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889619</id>
	<title>We've stopped buying DVDs because...</title>
	<author>mellon</author>
	<datestamp>1256639640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...our shelves were starting to get full, and we weren't re-watching them.   There's no structural change the motion picture industry can change that will help with that.   Instead of trying to figure out how to screw your customers, guys, maybe you should try serving our needs.   Why can't I get stuff right away on iTunes?   This is like the book industry and their hardcover/paperback model.   Basically, they're getting a big hit upfront in hardcover sales at the cost of making people who would have bought the paperback go to the library instead.</p><p>When are these guys going to get that the way you make money is by serving your customers?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...our shelves were starting to get full , and we were n't re-watching them .
There 's no structural change the motion picture industry can change that will help with that .
Instead of trying to figure out how to screw your customers , guys , maybe you should try serving our needs .
Why ca n't I get stuff right away on iTunes ?
This is like the book industry and their hardcover/paperback model .
Basically , they 're getting a big hit upfront in hardcover sales at the cost of making people who would have bought the paperback go to the library instead.When are these guys going to get that the way you make money is by serving your customers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...our shelves were starting to get full, and we weren't re-watching them.
There's no structural change the motion picture industry can change that will help with that.
Instead of trying to figure out how to screw your customers, guys, maybe you should try serving our needs.
Why can't I get stuff right away on iTunes?
This is like the book industry and their hardcover/paperback model.
Basically, they're getting a big hit upfront in hardcover sales at the cost of making people who would have bought the paperback go to the library instead.When are these guys going to get that the way you make money is by serving your customers?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889585</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone explain..</title>
	<author>mattack2</author>
	<datestamp>1256639520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Read <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First\_sale\_doctrine" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First\_sale\_doctrine</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>There are *some* limitations.  But if you RTFA, these are voluntary agreements by the DVD rental places, so they get cheaper DVDs to rent, but delayed.</p><p>IMHO, it's basically trying to effectively bring back the equivalent of the "video rental window", where the VHS tape originally cost $85 or so, so the rental companies would have to pay a lot so they could rent the "hot new releases"...  The people that really want it the day it's released (might) buy it when it comes out..  The DVD rental places that don't want to pay full price can wait...  As someone else said, RedBox apparently already buys retail copies of movies, and might continue to do so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Read http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First \ _sale \ _doctrine [ wikipedia.org ] There are * some * limitations .
But if you RTFA , these are voluntary agreements by the DVD rental places , so they get cheaper DVDs to rent , but delayed.IMHO , it 's basically trying to effectively bring back the equivalent of the " video rental window " , where the VHS tape originally cost $ 85 or so , so the rental companies would have to pay a lot so they could rent the " hot new releases " ... The people that really want it the day it 's released ( might ) buy it when it comes out.. The DVD rental places that do n't want to pay full price can wait... As someone else said , RedBox apparently already buys retail copies of movies , and might continue to do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First\_sale\_doctrine [wikipedia.org]There are *some* limitations.
But if you RTFA, these are voluntary agreements by the DVD rental places, so they get cheaper DVDs to rent, but delayed.IMHO, it's basically trying to effectively bring back the equivalent of the "video rental window", where the VHS tape originally cost $85 or so, so the rental companies would have to pay a lot so they could rent the "hot new releases"...  The people that really want it the day it's released (might) buy it when it comes out..  The DVD rental places that don't want to pay full price can wait...  As someone else said, RedBox apparently already buys retail copies of movies, and might continue to do so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890879</id>
	<title>Re:Buying has always been better</title>
	<author>tgibbs</author>
	<datestamp>1256645040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's see, I pay Netflix $11 a month to see any movies I want. That's less than the cost of buying a movie. And if I buy a movie, I have to find space for it on my shelves for a movie that I might watch one more time at most.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's see , I pay Netflix $ 11 a month to see any movies I want .
That 's less than the cost of buying a movie .
And if I buy a movie , I have to find space for it on my shelves for a movie that I might watch one more time at most .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's see, I pay Netflix $11 a month to see any movies I want.
That's less than the cost of buying a movie.
And if I buy a movie, I have to find space for it on my shelves for a movie that I might watch one more time at most.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889515</id>
	<title>Illegal collusion</title>
	<author>motionview</author>
	<datestamp>1256639280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't understand how it is not illegal for the studios collude this way. They don't have an anti-trust exemption.  If RedBox could just catch one Teamster trashing a kiosk they should be able to RICO the whole rotten bunch.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand how it is not illegal for the studios collude this way .
They do n't have an anti-trust exemption .
If RedBox could just catch one Teamster trashing a kiosk they should be able to RICO the whole rotten bunch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand how it is not illegal for the studios collude this way.
They don't have an anti-trust exemption.
If RedBox could just catch one Teamster trashing a kiosk they should be able to RICO the whole rotten bunch.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889709</id>
	<title>OMG !!!</title>
	<author>speedlaw</author>
	<datestamp>1256639940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So What ?  If I really need to see the movie I go to the theater.  There, you have no choice but to put up with 15 minutes of excessively loud-fast action commercials which bombard and oversaturate your senses before a movie some folks worked very hard to make.

Watching at home on Blu Ray on the widescreen is a better call than that for most films.  I'll wait.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So What ?
If I really need to see the movie I go to the theater .
There , you have no choice but to put up with 15 minutes of excessively loud-fast action commercials which bombard and oversaturate your senses before a movie some folks worked very hard to make .
Watching at home on Blu Ray on the widescreen is a better call than that for most films .
I 'll wait .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So What ?
If I really need to see the movie I go to the theater.
There, you have no choice but to put up with 15 minutes of excessively loud-fast action commercials which bombard and oversaturate your senses before a movie some folks worked very hard to make.
Watching at home on Blu Ray on the widescreen is a better call than that for most films.
I'll wait.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889605</id>
	<title>Re:First sale doctrine?</title>
	<author>piojo</author>
	<datestamp>1256639580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read that Blockbuster pays a tithe to the movie studios, and operates with their blessing. Redbox doesn't, so the studios won't do business directly with Redbox, and (I think) have tried to shut them down.</p><p>If Blockbuster participates in this scheme, I imagine it will because the movie studios force them to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read that Blockbuster pays a tithe to the movie studios , and operates with their blessing .
Redbox does n't , so the studios wo n't do business directly with Redbox , and ( I think ) have tried to shut them down.If Blockbuster participates in this scheme , I imagine it will because the movie studios force them to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read that Blockbuster pays a tithe to the movie studios, and operates with their blessing.
Redbox doesn't, so the studios won't do business directly with Redbox, and (I think) have tried to shut them down.If Blockbuster participates in this scheme, I imagine it will because the movie studios force them to.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29897889</id>
	<title>I have other things to do</title>
	<author>ISurfTooMuch</author>
	<datestamp>1256746980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have other things to do and a limited amount of time to do them.  Let's see, when I get home from work, I can watch TV, surf the Net, listen to music, read a book, get started on that programming book I've been meaning to work on, spend time with my wife, sit out on my porch, go to the park, go to the gym (I \_really\_ need to do that), play with our cats, cook, call up some friends on the phone, go visit friends, go out to eat, and many other things.</p><p>It's not like I have all this free time to fill.  In fact, it's just the opposite, and, the thing is, many of my alternative activities are free.  So try and gouge me for more money.  You aren't going to sell me a movie I wasn't planning on buying anyway, and I have plenty of other things I can do, many of which are more rewarding in the long run than watching some piece of shit movie.</p><p>So, to all those greedy studio execs:  You need me far more than I need you.  If you try to screw me, I'll just find another thing to do, but if I disappear as a customer, then your profits decline, and without those, you're bankrupt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have other things to do and a limited amount of time to do them .
Let 's see , when I get home from work , I can watch TV , surf the Net , listen to music , read a book , get started on that programming book I 've been meaning to work on , spend time with my wife , sit out on my porch , go to the park , go to the gym ( I \ _really \ _ need to do that ) , play with our cats , cook , call up some friends on the phone , go visit friends , go out to eat , and many other things.It 's not like I have all this free time to fill .
In fact , it 's just the opposite , and , the thing is , many of my alternative activities are free .
So try and gouge me for more money .
You are n't going to sell me a movie I was n't planning on buying anyway , and I have plenty of other things I can do , many of which are more rewarding in the long run than watching some piece of shit movie.So , to all those greedy studio execs : You need me far more than I need you .
If you try to screw me , I 'll just find another thing to do , but if I disappear as a customer , then your profits decline , and without those , you 're bankrupt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have other things to do and a limited amount of time to do them.
Let's see, when I get home from work, I can watch TV, surf the Net, listen to music, read a book, get started on that programming book I've been meaning to work on, spend time with my wife, sit out on my porch, go to the park, go to the gym (I \_really\_ need to do that), play with our cats, cook, call up some friends on the phone, go visit friends, go out to eat, and many other things.It's not like I have all this free time to fill.
In fact, it's just the opposite, and, the thing is, many of my alternative activities are free.
So try and gouge me for more money.
You aren't going to sell me a movie I wasn't planning on buying anyway, and I have plenty of other things I can do, many of which are more rewarding in the long run than watching some piece of shit movie.So, to all those greedy studio execs:  You need me far more than I need you.
If you try to screw me, I'll just find another thing to do, but if I disappear as a customer, then your profits decline, and without those, you're bankrupt.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890049</id>
	<title>Value Pricing</title>
	<author>syntheticmemory</author>
	<datestamp>1256641260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Perhaps movies should be priced according to critical (5 star) rating- $3 a star. Maybe Hollywood  would get the message if much of their product was deemed worthless.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps movies should be priced according to critical ( 5 star ) rating- $ 3 a star .
Maybe Hollywood would get the message if much of their product was deemed worthless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps movies should be priced according to critical (5 star) rating- $3 a star.
Maybe Hollywood  would get the message if much of their product was deemed worthless.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890861</id>
	<title>Non-Issue for Many</title>
	<author>prozac79</author>
	<datestamp>1256644920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My Netflix queue is already 200+ movies long.  I'm watching movies for the first time that came out 20+ years ago.  So I don't really care if it takes another month for the DVD release because I have plenty of other movies to watch.  I can't think of many situations where I absolutely <b>need</b> to watch a certain movie and I will be in that one-month, money-suck period.  I'm sure the great majority of netflix and other movie renters fall into the same category.</p><p>I say we let the studio's try this and let the market decide.  If it doesn't bother too many people and they make a little more money then fine.  If no one likes it and they see a continued decline in sales then they will get the message and drop the idea.  The one big fear is that they see a decline in sales and <b>don't</b> get the message and then go whining all the way up the hill to the congressmen that they own.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My Netflix queue is already 200 + movies long .
I 'm watching movies for the first time that came out 20 + years ago .
So I do n't really care if it takes another month for the DVD release because I have plenty of other movies to watch .
I ca n't think of many situations where I absolutely need to watch a certain movie and I will be in that one-month , money-suck period .
I 'm sure the great majority of netflix and other movie renters fall into the same category.I say we let the studio 's try this and let the market decide .
If it does n't bother too many people and they make a little more money then fine .
If no one likes it and they see a continued decline in sales then they will get the message and drop the idea .
The one big fear is that they see a decline in sales and do n't get the message and then go whining all the way up the hill to the congressmen that they own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My Netflix queue is already 200+ movies long.
I'm watching movies for the first time that came out 20+ years ago.
So I don't really care if it takes another month for the DVD release because I have plenty of other movies to watch.
I can't think of many situations where I absolutely need to watch a certain movie and I will be in that one-month, money-suck period.
I'm sure the great majority of netflix and other movie renters fall into the same category.I say we let the studio's try this and let the market decide.
If it doesn't bother too many people and they make a little more money then fine.
If no one likes it and they see a continued decline in sales then they will get the message and drop the idea.
The one big fear is that they see a decline in sales and don't get the message and then go whining all the way up the hill to the congressmen that they own.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891801</id>
	<title>Not the brightest idea...</title>
	<author>jlarocco</author>
	<datestamp>1256650320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Won't this just push more people to bit-torrent?  I'm not one to promote torrenting movies, but this seems pretty obvious - the only legal copies will be more expensive, and there will be DVD rips on the torrent sites because the movie is out for sale...
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wo n't this just push more people to bit-torrent ?
I 'm not one to promote torrenting movies , but this seems pretty obvious - the only legal copies will be more expensive , and there will be DVD rips on the torrent sites because the movie is out for sale.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Won't this just push more people to bit-torrent?
I'm not one to promote torrenting movies, but this seems pretty obvious - the only legal copies will be more expensive, and there will be DVD rips on the torrent sites because the movie is out for sale...
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29894775</id>
	<title>Bring it on, bitches</title>
	<author>dugeen</author>
	<datestamp>1256729460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can wait longer than you can. In fact, why not use the time to make some films I might actually want to watch? It's been a long time since Pleasantville.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can wait longer than you can .
In fact , why not use the time to make some films I might actually want to watch ?
It 's been a long time since Pleasantville .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can wait longer than you can.
In fact, why not use the time to make some films I might actually want to watch?
It's been a long time since Pleasantville.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890285</id>
	<title>Re:Redbox buying DVDs</title>
	<author>Jeff DeMaagd</author>
	<datestamp>1256642280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Couldn't they just make bulk orders through a distributor such as Ingram Micro?  Or is Ingram Micro being prohibited from selling to Redbox?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Could n't they just make bulk orders through a distributor such as Ingram Micro ?
Or is Ingram Micro being prohibited from selling to Redbox ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Couldn't they just make bulk orders through a distributor such as Ingram Micro?
Or is Ingram Micro being prohibited from selling to Redbox?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29893169</id>
	<title>For one month?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256663580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do they say which month this is going to be? I want to stock up on books to read, and I am sure other people might want to plan a vacation or something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do they say which month this is going to be ?
I want to stock up on books to read , and I am sure other people might want to plan a vacation or something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do they say which month this is going to be?
I want to stock up on books to read, and I am sure other people might want to plan a vacation or something.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889389</id>
	<title>Increase piracy</title>
	<author>guytoronto</author>
	<datestamp>1256638800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, instead of spending $4 to watch the latest movie on DVD, studios want you to spend a minimum $20.

How many of those people will just go the other way, and download a BitTorrent?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , instead of spending $ 4 to watch the latest movie on DVD , studios want you to spend a minimum $ 20 .
How many of those people will just go the other way , and download a BitTorrent ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, instead of spending $4 to watch the latest movie on DVD, studios want you to spend a minimum $20.
How many of those people will just go the other way, and download a BitTorrent?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891647</id>
	<title>Easy protest method.......</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256649360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As long as the DVD is still shrink wrapped, you can return it for a refund within (typically)  30 days.<br>So, go buy out the store when the DVD is released, hang on to them for a month and take them back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as the DVD is still shrink wrapped , you can return it for a refund within ( typically ) 30 days.So , go buy out the store when the DVD is released , hang on to them for a month and take them back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as the DVD is still shrink wrapped, you can return it for a refund within (typically)  30 days.So, go buy out the store when the DVD is released, hang on to them for a month and take them back.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29902449</id>
	<title>Re:Right &amp; Wrong</title>
	<author>npsimons</author>
	<datestamp>1256723400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>So, they have it right that RedBox is cutting into their sales, but only of crappy movies which covers 2/3's (depending on who you are, this number fluctuates wildly).</p></div></blockquote><p>I heard <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon's\_Law" title="wikipedia.org">this one guy</a> [wikipedia.org] had higher standards than that, and <a href="http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0310.0/0870.html" title="indiana.edu">some are even more discriminating in their taste</a> [indiana.edu].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , they have it right that RedBox is cutting into their sales , but only of crappy movies which covers 2/3 's ( depending on who you are , this number fluctuates wildly ) .I heard this one guy [ wikipedia.org ] had higher standards than that , and some are even more discriminating in their taste [ indiana.edu ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, they have it right that RedBox is cutting into their sales, but only of crappy movies which covers 2/3's (depending on who you are, this number fluctuates wildly).I heard this one guy [wikipedia.org] had higher standards than that, and some are even more discriminating in their taste [indiana.edu].
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890563</id>
	<title>My dimple solution</title>
	<author>future assassin</author>
	<datestamp>1256643420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Two days after the movie is released I'll head over to the local Cash Converters (pawn shop) and buy the brand new just released DVD for $5  I save $15 and circumvent the rental shop and tv studios.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Two days after the movie is released I 'll head over to the local Cash Converters ( pawn shop ) and buy the brand new just released DVD for $ 5 I save $ 15 and circumvent the rental shop and tv studios .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two days after the movie is released I'll head over to the local Cash Converters (pawn shop) and buy the brand new just released DVD for $5  I save $15 and circumvent the rental shop and tv studios.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889327</id>
	<title>Welcome To The</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256638560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17pUBYESQBk" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">New World Order</a> [youtube.com].</p><p>"I am the NWO living off the backs of others fucking the planet over for a buck. You are the NWO manifesting your desire to be ruled like gimps and kept like pets."</p><p>I would add "worse than pets".</p><p>Yours In Novorossisysk,<br>Kilgore Trout</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>New World Order [ youtube.com ] .
" I am the NWO living off the backs of others fucking the planet over for a buck .
You are the NWO manifesting your desire to be ruled like gimps and kept like pets .
" I would add " worse than pets " .Yours In Novorossisysk,Kilgore Trout</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  New World Order [youtube.com].
"I am the NWO living off the backs of others fucking the planet over for a buck.
You are the NWO manifesting your desire to be ruled like gimps and kept like pets.
"I would add "worse than pets".Yours In Novorossisysk,Kilgore Trout</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890495</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone explain..</title>
	<author>harlows\_monkeys</author>
	<datestamp>1256643120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Because you own the disk and not the content on it.</p></div><p>That's wrong. You own the disk, AND you own the copy of the copyrighted work on that disk. Copyright law says that you are prohibited from doing certain things with that copy, though. Copyright law says renting it out is not prohibited.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because you own the disk and not the content on it.That 's wrong .
You own the disk , AND you own the copy of the copyrighted work on that disk .
Copyright law says that you are prohibited from doing certain things with that copy , though .
Copyright law says renting it out is not prohibited .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Because you own the disk and not the content on it.That's wrong.
You own the disk, AND you own the copy of the copyrighted work on that disk.
Copyright law says that you are prohibited from doing certain things with that copy, though.
Copyright law says renting it out is not prohibited.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889691</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone explain..</title>
	<author>N7DR</author>
	<datestamp>1256639940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How this is possible?  I don't understand the whole rental world.  How does the studio have any control over it?  Sure, they own the copyright on the material on the disk but I own the disk.  I can sell it, why can't I rent it out to someone?</p><p>What legal principle prevents me from loaning out, selling, or renting any (physical) CD/DVD/Book that I have purchased?  Do these companies seriously have to buy special versions that they rent out?  They have copyright which let's them dictate copying or performance, giving out the physical item I bought doesn't seem to fall in that category.</p></div><p>I don't understand the rental world either, but the case that confounds me is somewhat the flip side of the same question. It's puzzled me frequently that on Netflix DVDs there is sometimes that idiotic blurb at the front that says words to the effect of "this disc is not to be rented out"... and yet that's exactly how I'm watching it. One time I stopped and read the blurb quite carefully, in case I was missing something, but I could see no way that my rental of the DVD from Netflix was allowed by the limitations I was reading. My only conclusion was that the limitations have as much standing in the real world as those crazy "do not steal movies" adverts that they put on the front of some DVDs (perhaps the first sale doctrine somehow nullifies the written limitations?). But I would love to see some closely-reasoned legal argument on the subject, instead of having to guess how Netflix can ignore the limitations.</p></div>
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<tokenext>How this is possible ?
I do n't understand the whole rental world .
How does the studio have any control over it ?
Sure , they own the copyright on the material on the disk but I own the disk .
I can sell it , why ca n't I rent it out to someone ? What legal principle prevents me from loaning out , selling , or renting any ( physical ) CD/DVD/Book that I have purchased ?
Do these companies seriously have to buy special versions that they rent out ?
They have copyright which let 's them dictate copying or performance , giving out the physical item I bought does n't seem to fall in that category.I do n't understand the rental world either , but the case that confounds me is somewhat the flip side of the same question .
It 's puzzled me frequently that on Netflix DVDs there is sometimes that idiotic blurb at the front that says words to the effect of " this disc is not to be rented out " ... and yet that 's exactly how I 'm watching it .
One time I stopped and read the blurb quite carefully , in case I was missing something , but I could see no way that my rental of the DVD from Netflix was allowed by the limitations I was reading .
My only conclusion was that the limitations have as much standing in the real world as those crazy " do not steal movies " adverts that they put on the front of some DVDs ( perhaps the first sale doctrine somehow nullifies the written limitations ? ) .
But I would love to see some closely-reasoned legal argument on the subject , instead of having to guess how Netflix can ignore the limitations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How this is possible?
I don't understand the whole rental world.
How does the studio have any control over it?
Sure, they own the copyright on the material on the disk but I own the disk.
I can sell it, why can't I rent it out to someone?What legal principle prevents me from loaning out, selling, or renting any (physical) CD/DVD/Book that I have purchased?
Do these companies seriously have to buy special versions that they rent out?
They have copyright which let's them dictate copying or performance, giving out the physical item I bought doesn't seem to fall in that category.I don't understand the rental world either, but the case that confounds me is somewhat the flip side of the same question.
It's puzzled me frequently that on Netflix DVDs there is sometimes that idiotic blurb at the front that says words to the effect of "this disc is not to be rented out"... and yet that's exactly how I'm watching it.
One time I stopped and read the blurb quite carefully, in case I was missing something, but I could see no way that my rental of the DVD from Netflix was allowed by the limitations I was reading.
My only conclusion was that the limitations have as much standing in the real world as those crazy "do not steal movies" adverts that they put on the front of some DVDs (perhaps the first sale doctrine somehow nullifies the written limitations?).
But I would love to see some closely-reasoned legal argument on the subject, instead of having to guess how Netflix can ignore the limitations.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890233</id>
	<title>That's fine...</title>
	<author>ShawnDoc</author>
	<datestamp>1256642100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll just start "renting" all my movies from<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.torrent sites, or megaupload.  They normally get the movies a week or more before DVD sales anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll just start " renting " all my movies from .torrent sites , or megaupload .
They normally get the movies a week or more before DVD sales anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll just start "renting" all my movies from .torrent sites, or megaupload.
They normally get the movies a week or more before DVD sales anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889621</id>
	<title>"The LA Times reports</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256639640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that in an effort to push their business model further towards irrelevancy, some major film studios are considering a new policy that would harvest ill will in increasing amounts from consumers for several weeks. Under the plan, new DVD releases would be available on a purchase-only basis for a few hours, after which time filesharing such as Bittorrent and eMule would offer the DVDs for free. 'The studios are wrestling with declines in DVD sales while the rest of the world adapts superior distribution technology,' says PHBasterd, the CEO of Clueless Inc. 'If we can agree on annoying enough artificial tollbooths, $0 could potentially seem far more attractive to consumers.' Three studios have already tried to impose arbitrary attempts to control what they can't control anymore on any forward looking company with a better idea, believing they can stop progress and return to some nostalgic time period when Sonny sang with Cher. Consumers have responded by not caring and doing whatever the hell they want, since IP law was never meant to be used as a club on the general consumer. Meanwhile, media execs snorting coke off hookers' asses have been complaining that there is less coke and less hookers and why don't people understand how vital and important they are to the flow of media and culture."</p><p>it doesn't reflect well on you when you've already lost and you won't admit it</p><p>game over dude</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that in an effort to push their business model further towards irrelevancy , some major film studios are considering a new policy that would harvest ill will in increasing amounts from consumers for several weeks .
Under the plan , new DVD releases would be available on a purchase-only basis for a few hours , after which time filesharing such as Bittorrent and eMule would offer the DVDs for free .
'The studios are wrestling with declines in DVD sales while the rest of the world adapts superior distribution technology, ' says PHBasterd , the CEO of Clueless Inc. 'If we can agree on annoying enough artificial tollbooths , $ 0 could potentially seem far more attractive to consumers .
' Three studios have already tried to impose arbitrary attempts to control what they ca n't control anymore on any forward looking company with a better idea , believing they can stop progress and return to some nostalgic time period when Sonny sang with Cher .
Consumers have responded by not caring and doing whatever the hell they want , since IP law was never meant to be used as a club on the general consumer .
Meanwhile , media execs snorting coke off hookers ' asses have been complaining that there is less coke and less hookers and why do n't people understand how vital and important they are to the flow of media and culture .
" it does n't reflect well on you when you 've already lost and you wo n't admit itgame over dude</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that in an effort to push their business model further towards irrelevancy, some major film studios are considering a new policy that would harvest ill will in increasing amounts from consumers for several weeks.
Under the plan, new DVD releases would be available on a purchase-only basis for a few hours, after which time filesharing such as Bittorrent and eMule would offer the DVDs for free.
'The studios are wrestling with declines in DVD sales while the rest of the world adapts superior distribution technology,' says PHBasterd, the CEO of Clueless Inc. 'If we can agree on annoying enough artificial tollbooths, $0 could potentially seem far more attractive to consumers.
' Three studios have already tried to impose arbitrary attempts to control what they can't control anymore on any forward looking company with a better idea, believing they can stop progress and return to some nostalgic time period when Sonny sang with Cher.
Consumers have responded by not caring and doing whatever the hell they want, since IP law was never meant to be used as a club on the general consumer.
Meanwhile, media execs snorting coke off hookers' asses have been complaining that there is less coke and less hookers and why don't people understand how vital and important they are to the flow of media and culture.
"it doesn't reflect well on you when you've already lost and you won't admit itgame over dude</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889567</id>
	<title>RTF(2nd)A</title>
	<author>Wesley Felter</author>
	<datestamp>1256639460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Once you have a DVD in your hands you can rent or resell it as much as you want (first sale doctrine). However, the studios refuse to sell DVDs directly to rental companies, and the studios get their wholesale distributors to sign contracts refusing to sell to rental companies. Then the rental companies have to buy DVDs at retail price at Wal-Mart, which increases their costs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Once you have a DVD in your hands you can rent or resell it as much as you want ( first sale doctrine ) .
However , the studios refuse to sell DVDs directly to rental companies , and the studios get their wholesale distributors to sign contracts refusing to sell to rental companies .
Then the rental companies have to buy DVDs at retail price at Wal-Mart , which increases their costs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once you have a DVD in your hands you can rent or resell it as much as you want (first sale doctrine).
However, the studios refuse to sell DVDs directly to rental companies, and the studios get their wholesale distributors to sign contracts refusing to sell to rental companies.
Then the rental companies have to buy DVDs at retail price at Wal-Mart, which increases their costs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891743</id>
	<title>Wait until you're "old". You'll stop caring.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256650020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a lot to be said for aging. Speaking for myself, now that I'm in my early 40s, movies simply don't appeal to me the way they used to. Possibly it's down to me starting my family quite late, compared with the average guy. (Which is what...late twenties, early thirties?) It meant I was able to indulge my movie fanboyism much longer than those who had family responsibilities and obligations. Now? I never watch movies, and I don't care that I never watch them. They no longer seem interesting or important. Certainly not the latter. In fact, I'm now almost embarrassed to remember how much "significance" I used to regard movies as having. An aging and maturing population is the RIAA's worst enemy and nightmare.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a lot to be said for aging .
Speaking for myself , now that I 'm in my early 40s , movies simply do n't appeal to me the way they used to .
Possibly it 's down to me starting my family quite late , compared with the average guy .
( Which is what...late twenties , early thirties ?
) It meant I was able to indulge my movie fanboyism much longer than those who had family responsibilities and obligations .
Now ? I never watch movies , and I do n't care that I never watch them .
They no longer seem interesting or important .
Certainly not the latter .
In fact , I 'm now almost embarrassed to remember how much " significance " I used to regard movies as having .
An aging and maturing population is the RIAA 's worst enemy and nightmare .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a lot to be said for aging.
Speaking for myself, now that I'm in my early 40s, movies simply don't appeal to me the way they used to.
Possibly it's down to me starting my family quite late, compared with the average guy.
(Which is what...late twenties, early thirties?
) It meant I was able to indulge my movie fanboyism much longer than those who had family responsibilities and obligations.
Now? I never watch movies, and I don't care that I never watch them.
They no longer seem interesting or important.
Certainly not the latter.
In fact, I'm now almost embarrassed to remember how much "significance" I used to regard movies as having.
An aging and maturing population is the RIAA's worst enemy and nightmare.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890051</id>
	<title>Re:hey, it beats</title>
	<author>popeye44</author>
	<datestamp>1256641260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm I see those R5 releases becoming even more popular in the interim. Until Studios have a global policy to reflect a global supply it really doesn't matter a whit what rule they attempt to make. If I can get it anywhere cheaper/faster/as good, then it's sure as shit anyone can.</p><p>One region one price no artificial scarcity. Deal with what you CAN sell not attempt to control what you cannot.</p><p>Typically a newly released dvd in a store has been on the internet 2-3 weeks. Brilliant fucking plan geniuses. "hint it's not the rentals that are doing this to you"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm I see those R5 releases becoming even more popular in the interim .
Until Studios have a global policy to reflect a global supply it really does n't matter a whit what rule they attempt to make .
If I can get it anywhere cheaper/faster/as good , then it 's sure as shit anyone can.One region one price no artificial scarcity .
Deal with what you CAN sell not attempt to control what you can not.Typically a newly released dvd in a store has been on the internet 2-3 weeks .
Brilliant fucking plan geniuses .
" hint it 's not the rentals that are doing this to you "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm I see those R5 releases becoming even more popular in the interim.
Until Studios have a global policy to reflect a global supply it really doesn't matter a whit what rule they attempt to make.
If I can get it anywhere cheaper/faster/as good, then it's sure as shit anyone can.One region one price no artificial scarcity.
Deal with what you CAN sell not attempt to control what you cannot.Typically a newly released dvd in a store has been on the internet 2-3 weeks.
Brilliant fucking plan geniuses.
"hint it's not the rentals that are doing this to you"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29895201</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256733720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously?  That's the solution?  essentially force the people to pirate?  BRAVO</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously ?
That 's the solution ?
essentially force the people to pirate ?
BRAVO</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously?
That's the solution?
essentially force the people to pirate?
BRAVO</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889631</id>
	<title>Re:hey, it beats</title>
	<author>Fluffeh</author>
	<datestamp>1256639700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Some of the lyrics of "Because I got high" seem amazingly appropriate to the way these folks are acting:<p><div class="quote"><p>I was gonna go to work but then I got high<br>
I just got a new promotion but I got high<br>
now i'm selling dope and i know why<br>
why man -cause I was high [repeat 3x]<br> <br>

Now i'ma stop singing this song because i'm high<br>
i'm singing the whole thing wrong cause i'm high<br>
and if i don't sell one copy i'll know why<br>
-cause i was high [repeat 3x]</p></div><p>When will these idiots at the studios work out that their bull market is done and dusted? Maybe someone needs to put it into a newspaper for them to finally get it, because word anywhere else seems to be making amazing WHOOOSSSHHHH noises but little more.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Some of the lyrics of " Because I got high " seem amazingly appropriate to the way these folks are acting : I was gon na go to work but then I got high I just got a new promotion but I got high now i 'm selling dope and i know why why man -cause I was high [ repeat 3x ] Now i'ma stop singing this song because i 'm high i 'm singing the whole thing wrong cause i 'm high and if i do n't sell one copy i 'll know why -cause i was high [ repeat 3x ] When will these idiots at the studios work out that their bull market is done and dusted ?
Maybe someone needs to put it into a newspaper for them to finally get it , because word anywhere else seems to be making amazing WHOOOSSSHHHH noises but little more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some of the lyrics of "Because I got high" seem amazingly appropriate to the way these folks are acting:I was gonna go to work but then I got high
I just got a new promotion but I got high
now i'm selling dope and i know why
why man -cause I was high [repeat 3x] 

Now i'ma stop singing this song because i'm high
i'm singing the whole thing wrong cause i'm high
and if i don't sell one copy i'll know why
-cause i was high [repeat 3x]When will these idiots at the studios work out that their bull market is done and dusted?
Maybe someone needs to put it into a newspaper for them to finally get it, because word anywhere else seems to be making amazing WHOOOSSSHHHH noises but little more.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890007</id>
	<title>Encourage Piracy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256641020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>So for people like me who refuse to buy most movies becuase they wind up sucking and know where to get them illegally, I will have the choice of waiting to rent legally or getting a high quality DVD rip, right away and free.<br>
<br>
This just seems ass backwards.  If anything, I would spend more money on hyped movies, if I could rent/steam when the movie is still in theatres.  <br>
<br>
I especially like steaming movies online, even for a few bucks, I prefer that to driving to some store and dealing with some snot nosed teenager and then back through traffic. I wish this was more widely available.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So for people like me who refuse to buy most movies becuase they wind up sucking and know where to get them illegally , I will have the choice of waiting to rent legally or getting a high quality DVD rip , right away and free .
This just seems ass backwards .
If anything , I would spend more money on hyped movies , if I could rent/steam when the movie is still in theatres .
I especially like steaming movies online , even for a few bucks , I prefer that to driving to some store and dealing with some snot nosed teenager and then back through traffic .
I wish this was more widely available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So for people like me who refuse to buy most movies becuase they wind up sucking and know where to get them illegally, I will have the choice of waiting to rent legally or getting a high quality DVD rip, right away and free.
This just seems ass backwards.
If anything, I would spend more money on hyped movies, if I could rent/steam when the movie is still in theatres.
I especially like steaming movies online, even for a few bucks, I prefer that to driving to some store and dealing with some snot nosed teenager and then back through traffic.
I wish this was more widely available.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29894313</id>
	<title>The finest business minds</title>
	<author>naich</author>
	<datestamp>1256722560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not a business person, but it seems slightly (actually totally) insane to try and kill off the part of your market which is actually growing.  "What?  We are making more money out of rentals than we used to?  We have to put a stop to this."  Bizarre.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not a business person , but it seems slightly ( actually totally ) insane to try and kill off the part of your market which is actually growing .
" What ? We are making more money out of rentals than we used to ?
We have to put a stop to this .
" Bizarre .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not a business person, but it seems slightly (actually totally) insane to try and kill off the part of your market which is actually growing.
"What?  We are making more money out of rentals than we used to?
We have to put a stop to this.
"  Bizarre.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890243</id>
	<title>Infinitely Increasing Profits</title>
	<author>catchblue22</author>
	<datestamp>1256642160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Few people seem to question the implicit goal that companies seem to hold, that profits must always continue to increase forever.  Any deviation from this path is seen as a failure.  Thus, even though they are raking in enormous profits from theatres and DVD rentals, movie companies must find a way to increase those profits by putting the screws on already profitable business practices such as renting DVD's.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Few people seem to question the implicit goal that companies seem to hold , that profits must always continue to increase forever .
Any deviation from this path is seen as a failure .
Thus , even though they are raking in enormous profits from theatres and DVD rentals , movie companies must find a way to increase those profits by putting the screws on already profitable business practices such as renting DVD 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Few people seem to question the implicit goal that companies seem to hold, that profits must always continue to increase forever.
Any deviation from this path is seen as a failure.
Thus, even though they are raking in enormous profits from theatres and DVD rentals, movie companies must find a way to increase those profits by putting the screws on already profitable business practices such as renting DVD's.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889507</id>
	<title>the napster of dvds is born today</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256639280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And low, the napster of movie content is born with this announcement.  Way to go guys, you really thought this one all the way out, huh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And low , the napster of movie content is born with this announcement .
Way to go guys , you really thought this one all the way out , huh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And low, the napster of movie content is born with this announcement.
Way to go guys, you really thought this one all the way out, huh.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891025</id>
	<title>Re:Blockbuster+Netflix != only game in town</title>
	<author>Silicon Jedi</author>
	<datestamp>1256645760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They made all their money on porn.  The Internet KILLED them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They made all their money on porn .
The Internet KILLED them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They made all their money on porn.
The Internet KILLED them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889579</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890267</id>
	<title>This may make them even less in the long run...</title>
	<author>wguy00</author>
	<datestamp>1256642220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This may make the studios even less money in the long run.  I see less people buying the movie or renting the movie.  How you ask?  Well, there is always going to be the guy that buys a movie.  He's going to buy it, he's going to watch it, then he'll want to talk to his friends about it.  But they haven't seen it because they haven't bought it and they can't rent it.  So, the person that bought the movie will loan it to his friends to watch.  Now they can all talk about how badass/crappy/sad that movie was.  The studios make one sell, yeah, but that's probably the type of person that always buys movies anyway.  What they've lost is that extra few rentals they could have had from the movie.  No extra copies sold, and rental activity also goes down.

Once that happens, they'll just blame it on piracy though.  Maybe this is what they are after.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This may make the studios even less money in the long run .
I see less people buying the movie or renting the movie .
How you ask ?
Well , there is always going to be the guy that buys a movie .
He 's going to buy it , he 's going to watch it , then he 'll want to talk to his friends about it .
But they have n't seen it because they have n't bought it and they ca n't rent it .
So , the person that bought the movie will loan it to his friends to watch .
Now they can all talk about how badass/crappy/sad that movie was .
The studios make one sell , yeah , but that 's probably the type of person that always buys movies anyway .
What they 've lost is that extra few rentals they could have had from the movie .
No extra copies sold , and rental activity also goes down .
Once that happens , they 'll just blame it on piracy though .
Maybe this is what they are after .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This may make the studios even less money in the long run.
I see less people buying the movie or renting the movie.
How you ask?
Well, there is always going to be the guy that buys a movie.
He's going to buy it, he's going to watch it, then he'll want to talk to his friends about it.
But they haven't seen it because they haven't bought it and they can't rent it.
So, the person that bought the movie will loan it to his friends to watch.
Now they can all talk about how badass/crappy/sad that movie was.
The studios make one sell, yeah, but that's probably the type of person that always buys movies anyway.
What they've lost is that extra few rentals they could have had from the movie.
No extra copies sold, and rental activity also goes down.
Once that happens, they'll just blame it on piracy though.
Maybe this is what they are after.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29892317</id>
	<title>Re:God forbid...</title>
	<author>Scrameustache</author>
	<datestamp>1256654940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>(I mean, who ever made a profit <em>pleasing</em> customers?)</p></div><p>(<i>Whores</i>?)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( I mean , who ever made a profit pleasing customers ? ) ( Whores ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(I mean, who ever made a profit pleasing customers?)(Whores?
)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889337</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29892425</id>
	<title>why can't we get moives on VOD / PPV before DVD?</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1256655960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>why can't we get moives on VOD / PPV before DVD?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>why ca n't we get moives on VOD / PPV before DVD ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why can't we get moives on VOD / PPV before DVD?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889481</id>
	<title>Law of unintended consequences</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1256639220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wouldn't delaying the renting or for-pay downloading of movies after the DVD release result in a huge increase in downloaded torrents by people who would be willing to pay a few bucks for the convenience of watching the movie, but don't feel like shelling out $18.99 for something they will only watch once? Alternatively, if I can't rent a movie, what stops me from forming a private club wherein members buy one of each new movie and share it with all other members? What percentage of DVD profits come from discs purchased by DVD rental companies; is the industry sure they want to screw over these companies and force them out of business?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't delaying the renting or for-pay downloading of movies after the DVD release result in a huge increase in downloaded torrents by people who would be willing to pay a few bucks for the convenience of watching the movie , but do n't feel like shelling out $ 18.99 for something they will only watch once ?
Alternatively , if I ca n't rent a movie , what stops me from forming a private club wherein members buy one of each new movie and share it with all other members ?
What percentage of DVD profits come from discs purchased by DVD rental companies ; is the industry sure they want to screw over these companies and force them out of business ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't delaying the renting or for-pay downloading of movies after the DVD release result in a huge increase in downloaded torrents by people who would be willing to pay a few bucks for the convenience of watching the movie, but don't feel like shelling out $18.99 for something they will only watch once?
Alternatively, if I can't rent a movie, what stops me from forming a private club wherein members buy one of each new movie and share it with all other members?
What percentage of DVD profits come from discs purchased by DVD rental companies; is the industry sure they want to screw over these companies and force them out of business?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890277</id>
	<title>Most People Won't Notice</title>
	<author>jafiwam</author>
	<datestamp>1256642280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everybody who isn't some sort of weirdo fanboi follows pretty much this process:</p><p>1) Establish desire to "get a movie"</p><p>2) Go to Video rental place or kiosk</p><p>3) Stare at selections, perhaps argue about what to watch, finally give up and just grab one.</p><p>4) Watch movie.</p><p>What is released when to the rental vs store does not enter into the equation.  People that want to BUY movies want them for different reasons than those that RENT.</p><p>So, people won't notice, and also, it will not increase the number of people buying one bit.  NOBODY goes to rent a movie and then buys it instead, they just rent whatever else happens to be there.  The people that BUY will still get the movie for the same reasons they always did, on the same schedule they always did.  Same for the renters.  The Venn diagram of renter fulfillment vs buyer fulfillment has two non intersecting circles.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everybody who is n't some sort of weirdo fanboi follows pretty much this process : 1 ) Establish desire to " get a movie " 2 ) Go to Video rental place or kiosk3 ) Stare at selections , perhaps argue about what to watch , finally give up and just grab one.4 ) Watch movie.What is released when to the rental vs store does not enter into the equation .
People that want to BUY movies want them for different reasons than those that RENT.So , people wo n't notice , and also , it will not increase the number of people buying one bit .
NOBODY goes to rent a movie and then buys it instead , they just rent whatever else happens to be there .
The people that BUY will still get the movie for the same reasons they always did , on the same schedule they always did .
Same for the renters .
The Venn diagram of renter fulfillment vs buyer fulfillment has two non intersecting circles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everybody who isn't some sort of weirdo fanboi follows pretty much this process:1) Establish desire to "get a movie"2) Go to Video rental place or kiosk3) Stare at selections, perhaps argue about what to watch, finally give up and just grab one.4) Watch movie.What is released when to the rental vs store does not enter into the equation.
People that want to BUY movies want them for different reasons than those that RENT.So, people won't notice, and also, it will not increase the number of people buying one bit.
NOBODY goes to rent a movie and then buys it instead, they just rent whatever else happens to be there.
The people that BUY will still get the movie for the same reasons they always did, on the same schedule they always did.
Same for the renters.
The Venn diagram of renter fulfillment vs buyer fulfillment has two non intersecting circles.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891273</id>
	<title>Let me get this straight...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256647140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The business model seems to me to be as follows:</p><p>Area X of our business is failing.<br>Area Y of our business is growing slowly.</p><p>If we restrict our customers access to area Y area X must grow.</p><p>Where X=Sales, Y=Rental.</p><p>I hope they don't pay their business strategy people too much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The business model seems to me to be as follows : Area X of our business is failing.Area Y of our business is growing slowly.If we restrict our customers access to area Y area X must grow.Where X = Sales , Y = Rental.I hope they do n't pay their business strategy people too much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The business model seems to me to be as follows:Area X of our business is failing.Area Y of our business is growing slowly.If we restrict our customers access to area Y area X must grow.Where X=Sales, Y=Rental.I hope they don't pay their business strategy people too much.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29892949</id>
	<title>I have no problem with this at all.</title>
	<author>AbRASiON</author>
	<datestamp>1256660520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you're so impatient to get a movie, then pay full price for it.<br>It's not ideal but if this makes them happier then so be it, I can't imagine anyone with any patience whatsoever actually being frustrated by this.</p><p>Those that want to 'steal' it still can, everyone is happy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're so impatient to get a movie , then pay full price for it.It 's not ideal but if this makes them happier then so be it , I ca n't imagine anyone with any patience whatsoever actually being frustrated by this.Those that want to 'steal ' it still can , everyone is happy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're so impatient to get a movie, then pay full price for it.It's not ideal but if this makes them happier then so be it, I can't imagine anyone with any patience whatsoever actually being frustrated by this.Those that want to 'steal' it still can, everyone is happy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889265</id>
	<title>hey, it beats</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256638380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>trying to sell people what they want or how they want it~</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>trying to sell people what they want or how they want it ~</tokentext>
<sentencetext>trying to sell people what they want or how they want it~</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890127</id>
	<title>That's not the reason I'm not buying DVDs...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256641680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I haven't set foot inside a googolplex movie theater in 9 years. There hasn't been a single movie worth the $25/pair tickets plus whatever concessions I may or may end up buying.</p><p>I haven't purchased a DVD in at least that long. The movie industry treats its customers like criminals, plus, how many f$*@ng times can you watch the pap that the movie industry churns out?</p><p>I haven't rented a DVD. Ever. Have you seen the crap that the movie industry churns out? Don't worry, I've got plenty of DVD players. "Santa" shits one out every year or two.</p><p>I don't pay for HBO/Showtime/Cinemax/digital cable. It's pretty much all crap.</p><p>What little remains that isn't crap gets caught by Tivo or I get second hand.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't set foot inside a googolplex movie theater in 9 years .
There has n't been a single movie worth the $ 25/pair tickets plus whatever concessions I may or may end up buying.I have n't purchased a DVD in at least that long .
The movie industry treats its customers like criminals , plus , how many f $ * @ ng times can you watch the pap that the movie industry churns out ? I have n't rented a DVD .
Ever. Have you seen the crap that the movie industry churns out ?
Do n't worry , I 've got plenty of DVD players .
" Santa " shits one out every year or two.I do n't pay for HBO/Showtime/Cinemax/digital cable .
It 's pretty much all crap.What little remains that is n't crap gets caught by Tivo or I get second hand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't set foot inside a googolplex movie theater in 9 years.
There hasn't been a single movie worth the $25/pair tickets plus whatever concessions I may or may end up buying.I haven't purchased a DVD in at least that long.
The movie industry treats its customers like criminals, plus, how many f$*@ng times can you watch the pap that the movie industry churns out?I haven't rented a DVD.
Ever. Have you seen the crap that the movie industry churns out?
Don't worry, I've got plenty of DVD players.
"Santa" shits one out every year or two.I don't pay for HBO/Showtime/Cinemax/digital cable.
It's pretty much all crap.What little remains that isn't crap gets caught by Tivo or I get second hand.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889885</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone explain..</title>
	<author>Dj\_fishlover</author>
	<datestamp>1256640540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know the law behind it, but there gotta be some.<br>At least in Sweden, the rental movies are special versions, that are very much more expensive than a consumer dvd. I heard of some people getting there rental movie stolen, and then being asked to pay ~200$ for it.</p><p>All hail the invincible copyright owner</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know the law behind it , but there got ta be some.At least in Sweden , the rental movies are special versions , that are very much more expensive than a consumer dvd .
I heard of some people getting there rental movie stolen , and then being asked to pay ~ 200 $ for it.All hail the invincible copyright owner</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know the law behind it, but there gotta be some.At least in Sweden, the rental movies are special versions, that are very much more expensive than a consumer dvd.
I heard of some people getting there rental movie stolen, and then being asked to pay ~200$ for it.All hail the invincible copyright owner</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889405</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29894539</id>
	<title>Re:RedBox Lawsuits - Copyright Misuse</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256726700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Redbox purchase's these movies through a distributor like anyone else. What legal right do the studios have to deny redbox the purchase of product if they are willing to pay the required price which ARE set by the studios. The studios are stepping in because they suddenly see the redbox success and they want to now force agreements on them for revenue sharing etc. I dont think there is any law that says a studio cant jump in, deny a customer purchase of their product at the legal selling price and then deny them the ability to do what they want with that product that is "legal".</p><p>I think the studios are wrong in this scenario. They set the pricing and release dates anyway they want, but after that, they have no right to deny a customer the ability to purchase and then rent or sell the product.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Redbox purchase 's these movies through a distributor like anyone else .
What legal right do the studios have to deny redbox the purchase of product if they are willing to pay the required price which ARE set by the studios .
The studios are stepping in because they suddenly see the redbox success and they want to now force agreements on them for revenue sharing etc .
I dont think there is any law that says a studio cant jump in , deny a customer purchase of their product at the legal selling price and then deny them the ability to do what they want with that product that is " legal " .I think the studios are wrong in this scenario .
They set the pricing and release dates anyway they want , but after that , they have no right to deny a customer the ability to purchase and then rent or sell the product .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Redbox purchase's these movies through a distributor like anyone else.
What legal right do the studios have to deny redbox the purchase of product if they are willing to pay the required price which ARE set by the studios.
The studios are stepping in because they suddenly see the redbox success and they want to now force agreements on them for revenue sharing etc.
I dont think there is any law that says a studio cant jump in, deny a customer purchase of their product at the legal selling price and then deny them the ability to do what they want with that product that is "legal".I think the studios are wrong in this scenario.
They set the pricing and release dates anyway they want, but after that, they have no right to deny a customer the ability to purchase and then rent or sell the product.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889905</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889411</id>
	<title>No problem.</title>
	<author>AgTiger</author>
	<datestamp>1256638920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've already waited the delay from the theater to the movie rental stores.  What's another month?</p><p>I go by the "What's coming out and when" whiteboard in my favorite little movie rental shop <i>anyway</i>.  From this perspective, nothing changes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've already waited the delay from the theater to the movie rental stores .
What 's another month ? I go by the " What 's coming out and when " whiteboard in my favorite little movie rental shop anyway .
From this perspective , nothing changes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've already waited the delay from the theater to the movie rental stores.
What's another month?I go by the "What's coming out and when" whiteboard in my favorite little movie rental shop anyway.
From this perspective, nothing changes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890543</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe they could ...</title>
	<author>clem.dickey</author>
	<datestamp>1256643360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not so funny to those of us who have endured a DVD-resolution feature-length film on the big screen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not so funny to those of us who have endured a DVD-resolution feature-length film on the big screen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not so funny to those of us who have endured a DVD-resolution feature-length film on the big screen.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889341</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889341</id>
	<title>Maybe they could ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256638680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just set up special places where they would show the DVDs on large screens before they tried to sell them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just set up special places where they would show the DVDs on large screens before they tried to sell them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just set up special places where they would show the DVDs on large screens before they tried to sell them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29894019</id>
	<title>Hold the Phone!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256761500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can have my finances and/or life ruined for not adhering to the strict licensing of media that I purchase, but Redbox can rent out movies that they bought at retail stores?<br>Somewhere along the way, someone has lied to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can have my finances and/or life ruined for not adhering to the strict licensing of media that I purchase , but Redbox can rent out movies that they bought at retail stores ? Somewhere along the way , someone has lied to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can have my finances and/or life ruined for not adhering to the strict licensing of media that I purchase, but Redbox can rent out movies that they bought at retail stores?Somewhere along the way, someone has lied to me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889831</id>
	<title>Re:Another Viewpoint</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1256640360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't buy many DVDs anymore.<br>Netflix streaming is great on my XBox. Now that Sony is putting NetFlix on the PS3 I hope that they will allow Sony movies on netflix streaming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't buy many DVDs anymore.Netflix streaming is great on my XBox .
Now that Sony is putting NetFlix on the PS3 I hope that they will allow Sony movies on netflix streaming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't buy many DVDs anymore.Netflix streaming is great on my XBox.
Now that Sony is putting NetFlix on the PS3 I hope that they will allow Sony movies on netflix streaming.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889325</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29897439</id>
	<title>Broken business plan</title>
	<author>bluefoxlucid</author>
	<datestamp>1256745180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Three studios have already tried to impose a no-rental period of about a month on Redbox [...] Meanwhile, the company is stocking its kiosks with DVDs it can't otherwise obtain by buying them from retailers.</p></div><p>
"Fuck you, bitches!  Let's see you stop selling to Best Buy!" -- Gregg Kaplan, Redbox CEO
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Three studios have already tried to impose a no-rental period of about a month on Redbox [ ... ] Meanwhile , the company is stocking its kiosks with DVDs it ca n't otherwise obtain by buying them from retailers .
" Fuck you , bitches !
Let 's see you stop selling to Best Buy !
" -- Gregg Kaplan , Redbox CEO</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Three studios have already tried to impose a no-rental period of about a month on Redbox [...] Meanwhile, the company is stocking its kiosks with DVDs it can't otherwise obtain by buying them from retailers.
"Fuck you, bitches!
Let's see you stop selling to Best Buy!
" -- Gregg Kaplan, Redbox CEO

	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29894513</id>
	<title>Increase profits by lowering your OVERHEAD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256726040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It costs more and more to make movies and a lot of them are pretty crappy. Bloated salaries for actors and actresses etc. How is it some more indepenent titles like a District 9 can cost 30 Million to make and be so good, and yet a summer blockbuster with Will Smith can cost over 150 Million and be average at best?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It costs more and more to make movies and a lot of them are pretty crappy .
Bloated salaries for actors and actresses etc .
How is it some more indepenent titles like a District 9 can cost 30 Million to make and be so good , and yet a summer blockbuster with Will Smith can cost over 150 Million and be average at best ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It costs more and more to make movies and a lot of them are pretty crappy.
Bloated salaries for actors and actresses etc.
How is it some more indepenent titles like a District 9 can cost 30 Million to make and be so good, and yet a summer blockbuster with Will Smith can cost over 150 Million and be average at best?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29903967</id>
	<title>Lol</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256731740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and they wonder why people torrent movies, In australia we have a word for companies that act like that, poc (pack of cunts)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and they wonder why people torrent movies , In australia we have a word for companies that act like that , poc ( pack of cunts )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and they wonder why people torrent movies, In australia we have a word for companies that act like that, poc (pack of cunts)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29899615</id>
	<title>Poor movie studios!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256754360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I sort of feel bad for the movie companies. Their ever-increasing desperation to take our money forces them to churn out total crap that they know we like. And we keep eating it so they have to keep feeding it.</p><p>It's like your daughter whoring herself out to total dirtbags. Nobody can convince her to respect herself...she knows what people want and she'll be damned if she's gonna let some other girl take her place.</p><p>Of course, she's proven right every time, every weekend. Well sometimes not so much, but until something better comes along, she goes with what works. Sadly, she has zero imagination or courage to break into something better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I sort of feel bad for the movie companies .
Their ever-increasing desperation to take our money forces them to churn out total crap that they know we like .
And we keep eating it so they have to keep feeding it.It 's like your daughter whoring herself out to total dirtbags .
Nobody can convince her to respect herself...she knows what people want and she 'll be damned if she 's gon na let some other girl take her place.Of course , she 's proven right every time , every weekend .
Well sometimes not so much , but until something better comes along , she goes with what works .
Sadly , she has zero imagination or courage to break into something better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I sort of feel bad for the movie companies.
Their ever-increasing desperation to take our money forces them to churn out total crap that they know we like.
And we keep eating it so they have to keep feeding it.It's like your daughter whoring herself out to total dirtbags.
Nobody can convince her to respect herself...she knows what people want and she'll be damned if she's gonna let some other girl take her place.Of course, she's proven right every time, every weekend.
Well sometimes not so much, but until something better comes along, she goes with what works.
Sadly, she has zero imagination or courage to break into something better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889595</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone explain..</title>
	<author>Nadaka</author>
	<datestamp>1256639580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>rental is a subset of performance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>rental is a subset of performance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>rental is a subset of performance.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890171</id>
	<title>Re:I used to buy DVDs</title>
	<author>WeatherServo9</author>
	<datestamp>1256641860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The store I bought it from looked at the open shrink wrap and said "Sorry". They wouldn't even let me exchange it because, according to the manager, they'd have to eat the cost of it.</p></div><p>Where the heck was this? I've never seen that happen before. I have had retailers refuse an exchange if I didn't have the receipt or it had been a long time since purchase date (greater than 60 days or something). But my understanding is stores can return defective product to the distributor for a refund, so it only costs them some time and effort (though having worked retail I wouldn't be entirely surprised if there was so much disorganization that they essentially never/rarely returned defective product even though they could...)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The store I bought it from looked at the open shrink wrap and said " Sorry " .
They would n't even let me exchange it because , according to the manager , they 'd have to eat the cost of it.Where the heck was this ?
I 've never seen that happen before .
I have had retailers refuse an exchange if I did n't have the receipt or it had been a long time since purchase date ( greater than 60 days or something ) .
But my understanding is stores can return defective product to the distributor for a refund , so it only costs them some time and effort ( though having worked retail I would n't be entirely surprised if there was so much disorganization that they essentially never/rarely returned defective product even though they could... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The store I bought it from looked at the open shrink wrap and said "Sorry".
They wouldn't even let me exchange it because, according to the manager, they'd have to eat the cost of it.Where the heck was this?
I've never seen that happen before.
I have had retailers refuse an exchange if I didn't have the receipt or it had been a long time since purchase date (greater than 60 days or something).
But my understanding is stores can return defective product to the distributor for a refund, so it only costs them some time and effort (though having worked retail I wouldn't be entirely surprised if there was so much disorganization that they essentially never/rarely returned defective product even though they could...)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889855</id>
	<title>Already in libraries</title>
	<author>Library Spoff</author>
	<datestamp>1256640480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the uk public libraries already have to wait before renting out music cd's and dvd's. It's six weeks after release for cd's.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the uk public libraries already have to wait before renting out music cd 's and dvd 's .
It 's six weeks after release for cd 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the uk public libraries already have to wait before renting out music cd's and dvd's.
It's six weeks after release for cd's.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890489</id>
	<title>Re:Will anyone care?</title>
	<author>arb phd slp</author>
	<datestamp>1256643060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Does anyone actually "line up" to see a movie when it's first released anymore? Especially these days, Hollywood is putting out utter drivel, so does it really matter if you see it today or in four weeks' time?</p><p>I think this might backfire on them. People who might be influenced by marketing buzz to see a movie right away, might forget about it by the time it reaches rental. But if they rent it during the new-release period, they might actually decide to buy it later.</p></div><p>You kinda have to if you're going to see something at all. The theaters don't run movies for weeks and weeks anymore. A couple of weeks and a film is out on its ear for the next thing (for the next Twilight sequel or cheap teen comedy). And usually that last week it's playing on a screen in the theater at the end of the corridor (which I refer to as "the closet"). The turnover slowed a bit when the economy crashed, but films have a short half-life.<br>You can catch it at second-run dollar theaters, but my experience with those hasn't been very positive (including crappier overall theater and the film being scratched-up).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone actually " line up " to see a movie when it 's first released anymore ?
Especially these days , Hollywood is putting out utter drivel , so does it really matter if you see it today or in four weeks ' time ? I think this might backfire on them .
People who might be influenced by marketing buzz to see a movie right away , might forget about it by the time it reaches rental .
But if they rent it during the new-release period , they might actually decide to buy it later.You kinda have to if you 're going to see something at all .
The theaters do n't run movies for weeks and weeks anymore .
A couple of weeks and a film is out on its ear for the next thing ( for the next Twilight sequel or cheap teen comedy ) .
And usually that last week it 's playing on a screen in the theater at the end of the corridor ( which I refer to as " the closet " ) .
The turnover slowed a bit when the economy crashed , but films have a short half-life.You can catch it at second-run dollar theaters , but my experience with those has n't been very positive ( including crappier overall theater and the film being scratched-up ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone actually "line up" to see a movie when it's first released anymore?
Especially these days, Hollywood is putting out utter drivel, so does it really matter if you see it today or in four weeks' time?I think this might backfire on them.
People who might be influenced by marketing buzz to see a movie right away, might forget about it by the time it reaches rental.
But if they rent it during the new-release period, they might actually decide to buy it later.You kinda have to if you're going to see something at all.
The theaters don't run movies for weeks and weeks anymore.
A couple of weeks and a film is out on its ear for the next thing (for the next Twilight sequel or cheap teen comedy).
And usually that last week it's playing on a screen in the theater at the end of the corridor (which I refer to as "the closet").
The turnover slowed a bit when the economy crashed, but films have a short half-life.You can catch it at second-run dollar theaters, but my experience with those hasn't been very positive (including crappier overall theater and the film being scratched-up).
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890033</id>
	<title>Legitimized abuse of addiction</title>
	<author>macraig</author>
	<datestamp>1256641200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A large part of profiteering in (modern?) capitalism involves "capitalizing" upon the weaknesses of others, in this case addictive behaviors and poor impulse control (ADD?).  This news is just further proof that it's true: what they're talking about is withholding gratification and making it artificially more expensive in order to increase profit (profit = degree to which others are disadvantaged).  It's certainly legal to do this, but is it ethical?</p><p>We certainly don't seem to think it's ethical when it's drug pushers who are doing it, but when movie producers do this or companies offer "free" limited-time incentives to get people hooked and dependent before they lower the boom, they get a free ethical pass.  Why the hypocrisy?  If the behavior - the means - is unethical, does it matter what the goal - the end - is?</p><p>It seems like Machiavelli needs to pull a Lazarus and write another book.  Oh, wait... maybe he should do a remake as a movie?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A large part of profiteering in ( modern ?
) capitalism involves " capitalizing " upon the weaknesses of others , in this case addictive behaviors and poor impulse control ( ADD ? ) .
This news is just further proof that it 's true : what they 're talking about is withholding gratification and making it artificially more expensive in order to increase profit ( profit = degree to which others are disadvantaged ) .
It 's certainly legal to do this , but is it ethical ? We certainly do n't seem to think it 's ethical when it 's drug pushers who are doing it , but when movie producers do this or companies offer " free " limited-time incentives to get people hooked and dependent before they lower the boom , they get a free ethical pass .
Why the hypocrisy ?
If the behavior - the means - is unethical , does it matter what the goal - the end - is ? It seems like Machiavelli needs to pull a Lazarus and write another book .
Oh , wait... maybe he should do a remake as a movie ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A large part of profiteering in (modern?
) capitalism involves "capitalizing" upon the weaknesses of others, in this case addictive behaviors and poor impulse control (ADD?).
This news is just further proof that it's true: what they're talking about is withholding gratification and making it artificially more expensive in order to increase profit (profit = degree to which others are disadvantaged).
It's certainly legal to do this, but is it ethical?We certainly don't seem to think it's ethical when it's drug pushers who are doing it, but when movie producers do this or companies offer "free" limited-time incentives to get people hooked and dependent before they lower the boom, they get a free ethical pass.
Why the hypocrisy?
If the behavior - the means - is unethical, does it matter what the goal - the end - is?It seems like Machiavelli needs to pull a Lazarus and write another book.
Oh, wait... maybe he should do a remake as a movie?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29892259</id>
	<title>o rly?</title>
	<author>Sun.Jedi</author>
	<datestamp>1256654580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>'If we can agree on low-enough pricing, delayed rental could potentially increase profits for everyone.'</p> </div><p>

1. Assuming we want to buy your craptastic movies in the first place.
2. We, the consumers, don't owe you a nickel. Try earning it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>'If we can agree on low-enough pricing , delayed rental could potentially increase profits for everyone .
' 1 .
Assuming we want to buy your craptastic movies in the first place .
2. We , the consumers , do n't owe you a nickel .
Try earning it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'If we can agree on low-enough pricing, delayed rental could potentially increase profits for everyone.
' 

1.
Assuming we want to buy your craptastic movies in the first place.
2. We, the consumers, don't owe you a nickel.
Try earning it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889719</id>
	<title>Re:First sale doctrine</title>
	<author>petermgreen</author>
	<datestamp>1256640000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Afaict they can in the US (I don't think they can here in the UK but i'm not positive) and from what i've read here it sounds like one rental only providers is already doing just that.</p><p>The problem with playing hardball like that though is that many rental providers also sell DVDs so they need to keep on good terms with the movie studios or have the entire sales side and possibly a big chunk of the profitability of the rental side wiped out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Afaict they can in the US ( I do n't think they can here in the UK but i 'm not positive ) and from what i 've read here it sounds like one rental only providers is already doing just that.The problem with playing hardball like that though is that many rental providers also sell DVDs so they need to keep on good terms with the movie studios or have the entire sales side and possibly a big chunk of the profitability of the rental side wiped out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Afaict they can in the US (I don't think they can here in the UK but i'm not positive) and from what i've read here it sounds like one rental only providers is already doing just that.The problem with playing hardball like that though is that many rental providers also sell DVDs so they need to keep on good terms with the movie studios or have the entire sales side and possibly a big chunk of the profitability of the rental side wiped out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29901183</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe they could ...</title>
	<author>xkcdFan1011011101111</author>
	<datestamp>1256760720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And they could charge as much as the DVD retail cost per every two people...</htmltext>
<tokenext>And they could charge as much as the DVD retail cost per every two people.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And they could charge as much as the DVD retail cost per every two people...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889697</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone explain..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256639940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am not a lawyer but I believe the doctrine of first sale does not allow the studios to legally enforce this.  The way they would make it work is through agreements with the companies that rent, e.g., Blockbuster, Redbox, Netflix.  They would entice the companies with the "low-enough pricing" that Reed Hastings refers to.</p><p>Bottom line from my perspective is that there will be some small percentage of people who *have* to see a movie bad enough that they will procure the movie instead of wait, but that small percentage will be split into a group that buys legally and a group that pirates.  Will the incremental legitimate sales be enough to cover the cost of the discounts the studios will need to buy the rental firms agreement...I doubt it.  Good luck with that guys...will be interested in reading about it a year from now once the agreement falls apart.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am not a lawyer but I believe the doctrine of first sale does not allow the studios to legally enforce this .
The way they would make it work is through agreements with the companies that rent , e.g. , Blockbuster , Redbox , Netflix .
They would entice the companies with the " low-enough pricing " that Reed Hastings refers to.Bottom line from my perspective is that there will be some small percentage of people who * have * to see a movie bad enough that they will procure the movie instead of wait , but that small percentage will be split into a group that buys legally and a group that pirates .
Will the incremental legitimate sales be enough to cover the cost of the discounts the studios will need to buy the rental firms agreement...I doubt it .
Good luck with that guys...will be interested in reading about it a year from now once the agreement falls apart .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am not a lawyer but I believe the doctrine of first sale does not allow the studios to legally enforce this.
The way they would make it work is through agreements with the companies that rent, e.g., Blockbuster, Redbox, Netflix.
They would entice the companies with the "low-enough pricing" that Reed Hastings refers to.Bottom line from my perspective is that there will be some small percentage of people who *have* to see a movie bad enough that they will procure the movie instead of wait, but that small percentage will be split into a group that buys legally and a group that pirates.
Will the incremental legitimate sales be enough to cover the cost of the discounts the studios will need to buy the rental firms agreement...I doubt it.
Good luck with that guys...will be interested in reading about it a year from now once the agreement falls apart.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889535</id>
	<title>Here's an idea</title>
	<author>Theoboley</author>
	<datestamp>1256639340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, Let's piss off the people who are keeping us in business by denying them the right to rent a movie at launch.   Sounds like they're looking to shoot themselves in the foot on this one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , Let 's piss off the people who are keeping us in business by denying them the right to rent a movie at launch .
Sounds like they 're looking to shoot themselves in the foot on this one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, Let's piss off the people who are keeping us in business by denying them the right to rent a movie at launch.
Sounds like they're looking to shoot themselves in the foot on this one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889521</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone explain..</title>
	<author>tsstahl</author>
	<datestamp>1256639340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The studios give the big rental companies steep discounts on quantity.  Also, they make sure the rental companies have their stock in time for release day renting.   Having to pay retail for each DVD REALLY cuts into income, among other things.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The studios give the big rental companies steep discounts on quantity .
Also , they make sure the rental companies have their stock in time for release day renting .
Having to pay retail for each DVD REALLY cuts into income , among other things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The studios give the big rental companies steep discounts on quantity.
Also, they make sure the rental companies have their stock in time for release day renting.
Having to pay retail for each DVD REALLY cuts into income, among other things.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891839</id>
	<title>Meanwhile...</title>
	<author>Vexorian</author>
	<datestamp>1256650500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The pirates will get the torrent a week before it is played in theaters yay!</htmltext>
<tokenext>The pirates will get the torrent a week before it is played in theaters yay !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The pirates will get the torrent a week before it is played in theaters yay!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890281</id>
	<title>Re:Right &amp; Wrong</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1256642280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about all the movies that you buy, watch twice, and thus end up overpaying by 5 (or perhaps more murderously, 13)?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about all the movies that you buy , watch twice , and thus end up overpaying by 5 ( or perhaps more murderously , 13 ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about all the movies that you buy, watch twice, and thus end up overpaying by 5 (or perhaps more murderously, 13)?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889443</id>
	<title>Profit?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256639040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They really will never get it.</p><p>1 - Produce decent movie<br>2 - Prevent people from viewing it<br>3 - Profit???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They really will never get it.1 - Produce decent movie2 - Prevent people from viewing it3 - Profit ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They really will never get it.1 - Produce decent movie2 - Prevent people from viewing it3 - Profit??
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889545</id>
	<title>I used to buy DVDs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256639400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I used to buy lots and lots of DVDs. I still have a pretty decent collection after selling some and trading others. Then one day I was watching a new DVD ("Se7en", or "Seven") when it skipped. I watched it jostle and jiggle for a few minutes, ejected it, wiped it, same effect. Tried the upstairs DVD player. It was even worse.</p><p>The store I bought it from looked at the open shrink wrap and said "Sorry". They wouldn't even let me exchange it because, according to the manager, they'd have to eat the cost of it.</p><p>So having some free time I wrote to New Line Cinema, finding an address online for consumer feedback. I asked them if I could obtain another disc from them and I would gladly ship back the old one and pay to ship a new one to me. The canned response I received back basically told me I was SOL and to go buy another DVD at full cost. Have a nice day.</p><p>Instead, I now spend the equivalent to one DVD a month on Netflix, my fiance and I can each rent our own movies and return them whenever, and if it skips I have a new one in a day or two. I won't buy a DVD anymore unless I have a very compelling reason to, such as a gift for someone or if it is a movie I will enjoy over and over, such as "The Shawshank Redemption".</p><p>Like many, I am tired of paying $19.99 or higher for new DVDs and getting rebuked when the time came to get a replacement disc when another disc became unreadable. So I'll Netflix it, stream it if I am unsure about it, and rip it if I want a copy and it costs too much. I feel a little guilt, but then I remember how the store and New Line screwed me and then I feel OK with it. Bottom line: If you make it difficult for a customer to get something legally that he or she paid for, you better believe that customer will find ways to get around that (and keep getting around it). No one likes to be screwed. I just can't afford to be screwed as much as the studios, distributor, producers, etc. can.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to buy lots and lots of DVDs .
I still have a pretty decent collection after selling some and trading others .
Then one day I was watching a new DVD ( " Se7en " , or " Seven " ) when it skipped .
I watched it jostle and jiggle for a few minutes , ejected it , wiped it , same effect .
Tried the upstairs DVD player .
It was even worse.The store I bought it from looked at the open shrink wrap and said " Sorry " .
They would n't even let me exchange it because , according to the manager , they 'd have to eat the cost of it.So having some free time I wrote to New Line Cinema , finding an address online for consumer feedback .
I asked them if I could obtain another disc from them and I would gladly ship back the old one and pay to ship a new one to me .
The canned response I received back basically told me I was SOL and to go buy another DVD at full cost .
Have a nice day.Instead , I now spend the equivalent to one DVD a month on Netflix , my fiance and I can each rent our own movies and return them whenever , and if it skips I have a new one in a day or two .
I wo n't buy a DVD anymore unless I have a very compelling reason to , such as a gift for someone or if it is a movie I will enjoy over and over , such as " The Shawshank Redemption " .Like many , I am tired of paying $ 19.99 or higher for new DVDs and getting rebuked when the time came to get a replacement disc when another disc became unreadable .
So I 'll Netflix it , stream it if I am unsure about it , and rip it if I want a copy and it costs too much .
I feel a little guilt , but then I remember how the store and New Line screwed me and then I feel OK with it .
Bottom line : If you make it difficult for a customer to get something legally that he or she paid for , you better believe that customer will find ways to get around that ( and keep getting around it ) .
No one likes to be screwed .
I just ca n't afford to be screwed as much as the studios , distributor , producers , etc .
can .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to buy lots and lots of DVDs.
I still have a pretty decent collection after selling some and trading others.
Then one day I was watching a new DVD ("Se7en", or "Seven") when it skipped.
I watched it jostle and jiggle for a few minutes, ejected it, wiped it, same effect.
Tried the upstairs DVD player.
It was even worse.The store I bought it from looked at the open shrink wrap and said "Sorry".
They wouldn't even let me exchange it because, according to the manager, they'd have to eat the cost of it.So having some free time I wrote to New Line Cinema, finding an address online for consumer feedback.
I asked them if I could obtain another disc from them and I would gladly ship back the old one and pay to ship a new one to me.
The canned response I received back basically told me I was SOL and to go buy another DVD at full cost.
Have a nice day.Instead, I now spend the equivalent to one DVD a month on Netflix, my fiance and I can each rent our own movies and return them whenever, and if it skips I have a new one in a day or two.
I won't buy a DVD anymore unless I have a very compelling reason to, such as a gift for someone or if it is a movie I will enjoy over and over, such as "The Shawshank Redemption".Like many, I am tired of paying $19.99 or higher for new DVDs and getting rebuked when the time came to get a replacement disc when another disc became unreadable.
So I'll Netflix it, stream it if I am unsure about it, and rip it if I want a copy and it costs too much.
I feel a little guilt, but then I remember how the store and New Line screwed me and then I feel OK with it.
Bottom line: If you make it difficult for a customer to get something legally that he or she paid for, you better believe that customer will find ways to get around that (and keep getting around it).
No one likes to be screwed.
I just can't afford to be screwed as much as the studios, distributor, producers, etc.
can.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889385</id>
	<title>Sounds legit to me.</title>
	<author>Manos\_Of\_Fate</author>
	<datestamp>1256638800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The three major players of an industry getting together in an attempt to shut out a perceived competitor? I don't see anything shady there...</htmltext>
<tokenext>The three major players of an industry getting together in an attempt to shut out a perceived competitor ?
I do n't see anything shady there.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The three major players of an industry getting together in an attempt to shut out a perceived competitor?
I don't see anything shady there...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889453</id>
	<title>I never bought DVDs anyway</title>
	<author>rolfwind</author>
	<datestamp>1256639100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I either saw it at the theater or I saw it on TV later.  This is, of course, before I got into foreign films.</p><p>Redbox was the first time I actually really started watching things on DVD regularly.  I hated Blockbuster, and DVDs cost more than the movie theater for one person, so that was often the cheaper option as well as the instant gratification that netflix didn't have at the time.  It's also due to the low cost and convenience.  I don't think there is anything that would make me want to own DVDs, like CDs, it's yet another clunky medium that I don't need collecting dust somewhere (I like being mobile in my living situation and that means desiring less shit to move) and the extras I don't ever watch.</p><p>If Hollywood wanted more of my money, perhaps they should just offer downloads in an AVI file or something standard.  DRM-less.  Please don't abuse me with mandatory ads/previews like you did your DVD customers.  I'm okay with variable pricing, will pay $5-9.  That should reflect the lack of physical media to ship and produce, less middlemen, and be competitive with a movie theater.</p><p>However, Redbox still would beat it with price, and honestly, most movies are only worth watching once, if that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I either saw it at the theater or I saw it on TV later .
This is , of course , before I got into foreign films.Redbox was the first time I actually really started watching things on DVD regularly .
I hated Blockbuster , and DVDs cost more than the movie theater for one person , so that was often the cheaper option as well as the instant gratification that netflix did n't have at the time .
It 's also due to the low cost and convenience .
I do n't think there is anything that would make me want to own DVDs , like CDs , it 's yet another clunky medium that I do n't need collecting dust somewhere ( I like being mobile in my living situation and that means desiring less shit to move ) and the extras I do n't ever watch.If Hollywood wanted more of my money , perhaps they should just offer downloads in an AVI file or something standard .
DRM-less. Please do n't abuse me with mandatory ads/previews like you did your DVD customers .
I 'm okay with variable pricing , will pay $ 5-9 .
That should reflect the lack of physical media to ship and produce , less middlemen , and be competitive with a movie theater.However , Redbox still would beat it with price , and honestly , most movies are only worth watching once , if that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I either saw it at the theater or I saw it on TV later.
This is, of course, before I got into foreign films.Redbox was the first time I actually really started watching things on DVD regularly.
I hated Blockbuster, and DVDs cost more than the movie theater for one person, so that was often the cheaper option as well as the instant gratification that netflix didn't have at the time.
It's also due to the low cost and convenience.
I don't think there is anything that would make me want to own DVDs, like CDs, it's yet another clunky medium that I don't need collecting dust somewhere (I like being mobile in my living situation and that means desiring less shit to move) and the extras I don't ever watch.If Hollywood wanted more of my money, perhaps they should just offer downloads in an AVI file or something standard.
DRM-less.  Please don't abuse me with mandatory ads/previews like you did your DVD customers.
I'm okay with variable pricing, will pay $5-9.
That should reflect the lack of physical media to ship and produce, less middlemen, and be competitive with a movie theater.However, Redbox still would beat it with price, and honestly, most movies are only worth watching once, if that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890383</id>
	<title>DVD? Renting? Buying actual media?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1256642640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What planet do they live on? I haven't used anything of those for <em>years</em>. When I buy them, I buy them digitally. If they are not available digitally, I don't buy them, but get them elsewhere. Simple as that.</p><p>Film studios: <em>Welcome to the 21st century!</em></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What planet do they live on ?
I have n't used anything of those for years .
When I buy them , I buy them digitally .
If they are not available digitally , I do n't buy them , but get them elsewhere .
Simple as that.Film studios : Welcome to the 21st century !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What planet do they live on?
I haven't used anything of those for years.
When I buy them, I buy them digitally.
If they are not available digitally, I don't buy them, but get them elsewhere.
Simple as that.Film studios: Welcome to the 21st century!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889711</id>
	<title>Buying has always been better</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1256639940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>At the moment you can get most DVDs for the cost or near cost of renting it and you get to keep it. I honestly don't know why you'd want to throw your money away on what is essentially borrowing movie.</htmltext>
<tokenext>At the moment you can get most DVDs for the cost or near cost of renting it and you get to keep it .
I honestly do n't know why you 'd want to throw your money away on what is essentially borrowing movie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At the moment you can get most DVDs for the cost or near cost of renting it and you get to keep it.
I honestly don't know why you'd want to throw your money away on what is essentially borrowing movie.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29896501</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone explain..</title>
	<author>Maximum Prophet</author>
	<datestamp>1256741520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From wikipedia:
<br>
The Record Rental Amendment of 1984 and the Computer Software Rental Amendments Act of 1990 both amended Section 109 to prevent all owners of software copies or phonorecords to distribute said copies through the acts of rental, lease, or lending, or by any other act or practice in the nature of rental, lease, or lending unless authorized by the owners of the copyright, with an exemption for non-profit educational institutions and non-profit libraries.

<br> <br>
So, why don't the studios include a CD partition on every DVD with at least one song on it. Suddenly, that DVD is a "phonorecord", and can't be rented without permission.
<br>
If they really want to appease the anal lawyers, they could include a grooved topside that could play in a record player.</htmltext>
<tokenext>From wikipedia : The Record Rental Amendment of 1984 and the Computer Software Rental Amendments Act of 1990 both amended Section 109 to prevent all owners of software copies or phonorecords to distribute said copies through the acts of rental , lease , or lending , or by any other act or practice in the nature of rental , lease , or lending unless authorized by the owners of the copyright , with an exemption for non-profit educational institutions and non-profit libraries .
So , why do n't the studios include a CD partition on every DVD with at least one song on it .
Suddenly , that DVD is a " phonorecord " , and ca n't be rented without permission .
If they really want to appease the anal lawyers , they could include a grooved topside that could play in a record player .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From wikipedia:

The Record Rental Amendment of 1984 and the Computer Software Rental Amendments Act of 1990 both amended Section 109 to prevent all owners of software copies or phonorecords to distribute said copies through the acts of rental, lease, or lending, or by any other act or practice in the nature of rental, lease, or lending unless authorized by the owners of the copyright, with an exemption for non-profit educational institutions and non-profit libraries.
So, why don't the studios include a CD partition on every DVD with at least one song on it.
Suddenly, that DVD is a "phonorecord", and can't be rented without permission.
If they really want to appease the anal lawyers, they could include a grooved topside that could play in a record player.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889337</id>
	<title>God forbid...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256638620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...that they provide services that the market wants.  (I mean, who ever made a profit <em>pleasing</em> customers?)  I hope that anti-trust law isn't too eviscerated to go after them for this BS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...that they provide services that the market wants .
( I mean , who ever made a profit pleasing customers ?
) I hope that anti-trust law is n't too eviscerated to go after them for this BS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...that they provide services that the market wants.
(I mean, who ever made a profit pleasing customers?
)  I hope that anti-trust law isn't too eviscerated to go after them for this BS.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889827</id>
	<title>Re:Another Viewpoint</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256640360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's particularly ironic that an instant access rental model may end up being one of the safest havens for DRM...</p><p><a href="http://www.ericforyan.com/index.php?node=20" title="ericforyan.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ericforyan.com/index.php?node=20</a> [ericforyan.com]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...if not one of the easiest ways to avert piracy (by choice, not force).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's particularly ironic that an instant access rental model may end up being one of the safest havens for DRM...http : //www.ericforyan.com/index.php ? node = 20 [ ericforyan.com ] ...if not one of the easiest ways to avert piracy ( by choice , not force ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's particularly ironic that an instant access rental model may end up being one of the safest havens for DRM...http://www.ericforyan.com/index.php?node=20 [ericforyan.com] ...if not one of the easiest ways to avert piracy (by choice, not force).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889735</id>
	<title>dohll</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256640060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">smells worse than a StandArds should = 1400 NetBSD</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>smells worse than a StandArds should = 1400 NetBSD [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>smells worse than a StandArds should = 1400 NetBSD [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889721</id>
	<title>Re:First sale doctrine</title>
	<author>TakeyMcTaker</author>
	<datestamp>1256640000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Netflix and Blockbuster have special contract arrangements with the movie studios. Redbox doesn't, so they aren't hindered by any such contracts and can use First Sale Doctrine. Redbox are also taking studios to task and accusing them of Antitrust violations, for their attempts at market fixing and excluding Redbox illegally. How the RIAA and MPAA have gone this long without anyone taking them to court over being organizations built on intentional Antitrust collusion I'll never know -- it's about darn time!<br>Insurance, media, and telcos all deserve much more face time with the DOJ.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Netflix and Blockbuster have special contract arrangements with the movie studios .
Redbox does n't , so they are n't hindered by any such contracts and can use First Sale Doctrine .
Redbox are also taking studios to task and accusing them of Antitrust violations , for their attempts at market fixing and excluding Redbox illegally .
How the RIAA and MPAA have gone this long without anyone taking them to court over being organizations built on intentional Antitrust collusion I 'll never know -- it 's about darn time ! Insurance , media , and telcos all deserve much more face time with the DOJ .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Netflix and Blockbuster have special contract arrangements with the movie studios.
Redbox doesn't, so they aren't hindered by any such contracts and can use First Sale Doctrine.
Redbox are also taking studios to task and accusing them of Antitrust violations, for their attempts at market fixing and excluding Redbox illegally.
How the RIAA and MPAA have gone this long without anyone taking them to court over being organizations built on intentional Antitrust collusion I'll never know -- it's about darn time!Insurance, media, and telcos all deserve much more face time with the DOJ.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889465</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890257</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone explain..</title>
	<author>kimvette</author>
	<datestamp>1256642160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, when the movie producers advertise a movie DVD, they say "OWN IT TODAY" not "LICENSE IT TODAY"</p><p>You OWN that COPY of that movie, just like when you purchase a printed book, you OWN that book. It is not licensed at all. Don't buy into the brainwashing the MPAA would want you to believe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , when the movie producers advertise a movie DVD , they say " OWN IT TODAY " not " LICENSE IT TODAY " You OWN that COPY of that movie , just like when you purchase a printed book , you OWN that book .
It is not licensed at all .
Do n't buy into the brainwashing the MPAA would want you to believe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, when the movie producers advertise a movie DVD, they say "OWN IT TODAY" not "LICENSE IT TODAY"You OWN that COPY of that movie, just like when you purchase a printed book, you OWN that book.
It is not licensed at all.
Don't buy into the brainwashing the MPAA would want you to believe.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889517</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890099</id>
	<title>Assholes</title>
	<author>omb</author>
	<datestamp>1256641500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have just started to see adds for London Business School on CNN again, let me say that these idiots have NO idea, The MBA will be the death of the American Dream, and business as all these DUMBKOFS can see is a zero sum game. Like almost all non (Mathematician, Scientist) academics they are all whores and circulate the university spread thought disease, usually for the highest bidder, just like the Congress.<br><br>Staring for the hardest:<br><br>Faster than Lightspeed (10^6-10^12 times) Drive<br>Free Energy (clean Fusion)<br>cure for Virus diseases<br>cure for Cancer, and self immune diseases<br><br>These are the real challenges for the race, get off this rock, make energy free, live much longer without illness and incapacity.<br><br>And all these idiots can do is think up ways of gouging the public for a Star Wars or Harry Potter episode,&amp;#160;while Banks are trying to pay Legislators to block efficient Regulation and the HealthCare debate descends into venality as the simple fact that US healthcare is third-world quality at premium prices.<br><br>And effectively, while committing a very insideous for of treason, they continue to make money.<br><br>
&nbsp;</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have just started to see adds for London Business School on CNN again , let me say that these idiots have NO idea , The MBA will be the death of the American Dream , and business as all these DUMBKOFS can see is a zero sum game .
Like almost all non ( Mathematician , Scientist ) academics they are all whores and circulate the university spread thought disease , usually for the highest bidder , just like the Congress.Staring for the hardest : Faster than Lightspeed ( 10 ^ 6-10 ^ 12 times ) DriveFree Energy ( clean Fusion ) cure for Virus diseasescure for Cancer , and self immune diseasesThese are the real challenges for the race , get off this rock , make energy free , live much longer without illness and incapacity.And all these idiots can do is think up ways of gouging the public for a Star Wars or Harry Potter episode ,   while Banks are trying to pay Legislators to block efficient Regulation and the HealthCare debate descends into venality as the simple fact that US healthcare is third-world quality at premium prices.And effectively , while committing a very insideous for of treason , they continue to make money .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have just started to see adds for London Business School on CNN again, let me say that these idiots have NO idea, The MBA will be the death of the American Dream, and business as all these DUMBKOFS can see is a zero sum game.
Like almost all non (Mathematician, Scientist) academics they are all whores and circulate the university spread thought disease, usually for the highest bidder, just like the Congress.Staring for the hardest:Faster than Lightspeed (10^6-10^12 times) DriveFree Energy (clean Fusion)cure for Virus diseasescure for Cancer, and self immune diseasesThese are the real challenges for the race, get off this rock, make energy free, live much longer without illness and incapacity.And all these idiots can do is think up ways of gouging the public for a Star Wars or Harry Potter episode, while Banks are trying to pay Legislators to block efficient Regulation and the HealthCare debate descends into venality as the simple fact that US healthcare is third-world quality at premium prices.And effectively, while committing a very insideous for of treason, they continue to make money.
 </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891423</id>
	<title>sales down sharply, rentals up slightly?</title>
	<author>roc97007</author>
	<datestamp>1256647980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Doesn't this mean that overall, fewer people are watching DVDs?  This couldn't have to do with the quality of the content?
</p><p>
When people ask me why shouldn't they torrent movies, I say Netflix is cheap enough, convenient enough, and timely enough to be a reasonable substitution for torrenting.  Now the studios think crippling rentals will increase sales?  I'd say "what are they smoking?" but this is Hollywood, after all...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't this mean that overall , fewer people are watching DVDs ?
This could n't have to do with the quality of the content ?
When people ask me why should n't they torrent movies , I say Netflix is cheap enough , convenient enough , and timely enough to be a reasonable substitution for torrenting .
Now the studios think crippling rentals will increase sales ?
I 'd say " what are they smoking ?
" but this is Hollywood , after all.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Doesn't this mean that overall, fewer people are watching DVDs?
This couldn't have to do with the quality of the content?
When people ask me why shouldn't they torrent movies, I say Netflix is cheap enough, convenient enough, and timely enough to be a reasonable substitution for torrenting.
Now the studios think crippling rentals will increase sales?
I'd say "what are they smoking?
" but this is Hollywood, after all...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890095</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone explain..</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1256641500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What they can do is not offer any special rates.</p><p>Nothing prevent you from buying a disk and renting it out, or lend it out.</p><p>Don't let these yahoos make you think other wise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What they can do is not offer any special rates.Nothing prevent you from buying a disk and renting it out , or lend it out.Do n't let these yahoos make you think other wise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What they can do is not offer any special rates.Nothing prevent you from buying a disk and renting it out, or lend it out.Don't let these yahoos make you think other wise.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891673</id>
	<title>Might be contraproductive</title>
	<author>SlothDead</author>
	<datestamp>1256649540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some years ago I watched a movie at the cinema and liked it so much, that right the next day, I went to a shop and asked when the DVD will come out. In Germany, the delay seems to be some month, but when it finally came out I already lost my crazy enthusiasm for it and did not bother to buy it. So the delay really cost them one sale here.</p><p>I understand that the motivation behind this is to make me watch it at the cinema first, but I did that and then I wanted to buy the DVD, not just watch it again at the cinema. Similarly, if I'm not interested in buying it, but want to rent it and can't, I can easily picture myself having already lost interest, when it finally gets available for rent.</p><p>Am I the exception, or are there a lot of people who won't buy a product/service, when they have to wait too long for it?</p><p>(Also, there once was a movie that was simultaneously released at the cinema, DVD sale and DVD rent. I don't know if that made them any money, but it sure was customer friendly)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some years ago I watched a movie at the cinema and liked it so much , that right the next day , I went to a shop and asked when the DVD will come out .
In Germany , the delay seems to be some month , but when it finally came out I already lost my crazy enthusiasm for it and did not bother to buy it .
So the delay really cost them one sale here.I understand that the motivation behind this is to make me watch it at the cinema first , but I did that and then I wanted to buy the DVD , not just watch it again at the cinema .
Similarly , if I 'm not interested in buying it , but want to rent it and ca n't , I can easily picture myself having already lost interest , when it finally gets available for rent.Am I the exception , or are there a lot of people who wo n't buy a product/service , when they have to wait too long for it ?
( Also , there once was a movie that was simultaneously released at the cinema , DVD sale and DVD rent .
I do n't know if that made them any money , but it sure was customer friendly )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some years ago I watched a movie at the cinema and liked it so much, that right the next day, I went to a shop and asked when the DVD will come out.
In Germany, the delay seems to be some month, but when it finally came out I already lost my crazy enthusiasm for it and did not bother to buy it.
So the delay really cost them one sale here.I understand that the motivation behind this is to make me watch it at the cinema first, but I did that and then I wanted to buy the DVD, not just watch it again at the cinema.
Similarly, if I'm not interested in buying it, but want to rent it and can't, I can easily picture myself having already lost interest, when it finally gets available for rent.Am I the exception, or are there a lot of people who won't buy a product/service, when they have to wait too long for it?
(Also, there once was a movie that was simultaneously released at the cinema, DVD sale and DVD rent.
I don't know if that made them any money, but it sure was customer friendly)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889609</id>
	<title>I already wait ..</title>
	<author>OzPeter</author>
	<datestamp>1256639580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For the movie to go from the big screen to DVD so I can see it on netflix.  Another month of waiting is not going to kill me</htmltext>
<tokenext>For the movie to go from the big screen to DVD so I can see it on netflix .
Another month of waiting is not going to kill me</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the movie to go from the big screen to DVD so I can see it on netflix.
Another month of waiting is not going to kill me</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889517</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone explain..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256639340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sure, they own the copyright on the material on the disk but I own the disk. I can sell it, why can't I rent it out to someone?</p></div><p>Because you own the disk and not the content on it.  It is a bit like me owning my kindle but not really <i>owning</i> the books on it.  The difference is that it is much more difficult to remove the movies from the DVD than it is to remove things from my kindle.</p><p>What you <i>do</i> own is a a very specific license that grants you the ability to play the content of the disc that you bought in ways that have been determined by the content's owners.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , they own the copyright on the material on the disk but I own the disk .
I can sell it , why ca n't I rent it out to someone ? Because you own the disk and not the content on it .
It is a bit like me owning my kindle but not really owning the books on it .
The difference is that it is much more difficult to remove the movies from the DVD than it is to remove things from my kindle.What you do own is a a very specific license that grants you the ability to play the content of the disc that you bought in ways that have been determined by the content 's owners .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, they own the copyright on the material on the disk but I own the disk.
I can sell it, why can't I rent it out to someone?Because you own the disk and not the content on it.
It is a bit like me owning my kindle but not really owning the books on it.
The difference is that it is much more difficult to remove the movies from the DVD than it is to remove things from my kindle.What you do own is a a very specific license that grants you the ability to play the content of the disc that you bought in ways that have been determined by the content's owners.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889405</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29892423</id>
	<title>Re:I used to buy DVDs</title>
	<author>hackiavelli</author>
	<datestamp>1256655960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The store I bought it from looked at the open shrink wrap and said "Sorry". They wouldn't even let me exchange it because, according to the manager, they'd have to eat the cost of it.</p></div></blockquote><p>
That's a shoddy operation.  Most retailers can get exchanges or credit from the manufacturer but even if this is a case where they couldn't they never should have let the customer take the loss.  It's a good way to lose a customer for good (and for the measly wholesale cost of a DVD).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The store I bought it from looked at the open shrink wrap and said " Sorry " .
They would n't even let me exchange it because , according to the manager , they 'd have to eat the cost of it .
That 's a shoddy operation .
Most retailers can get exchanges or credit from the manufacturer but even if this is a case where they could n't they never should have let the customer take the loss .
It 's a good way to lose a customer for good ( and for the measly wholesale cost of a DVD ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The store I bought it from looked at the open shrink wrap and said "Sorry".
They wouldn't even let me exchange it because, according to the manager, they'd have to eat the cost of it.
That's a shoddy operation.
Most retailers can get exchanges or credit from the manufacturer but even if this is a case where they couldn't they never should have let the customer take the loss.
It's a good way to lose a customer for good (and for the measly wholesale cost of a DVD).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889545</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891377</id>
	<title>Only large chains will be effected.</title>
	<author>TavisJohn</author>
	<datestamp>1256647800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only the large chain rental stores will be effected.  The small "hole in the wall" ones will go out and purchase some copies from wherever they have to, then offer them for rent on DVD Release day.  So they will get loads of $$$ from rentals until the large chains have it for rent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only the large chain rental stores will be effected .
The small " hole in the wall " ones will go out and purchase some copies from wherever they have to , then offer them for rent on DVD Release day .
So they will get loads of $ $ $ from rentals until the large chains have it for rent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only the large chain rental stores will be effected.
The small "hole in the wall" ones will go out and purchase some copies from wherever they have to, then offer them for rent on DVD Release day.
So they will get loads of $$$ from rentals until the large chains have it for rent.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889435</id>
	<title>"If we can agree on low-enough pricing,</title>
	<author>idontgno</author>
	<datestamp>1256638980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>delayed rental could potentially increase profits for everyone."</i> </p><p>Hmm... wait a minute. This sounds familiar.</p><p>Oh, yeah, "anti-competitive collusion"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>delayed rental could potentially increase profits for everyone .
" Hmm... wait a minute .
This sounds familiar.Oh , yeah , " anti-competitive collusion "</tokentext>
<sentencetext> delayed rental could potentially increase profits for everyone.
" Hmm... wait a minute.
This sounds familiar.Oh, yeah, "anti-competitive collusion"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889775</id>
	<title>Re:Great Idea!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256640180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Exactly. They spend fortunes on marketing, only to hinder people from seeing it. If the film is any good, people will buy it, right? Online rental services are free marketing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
They spend fortunes on marketing , only to hinder people from seeing it .
If the film is any good , people will buy it , right ?
Online rental services are free marketing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
They spend fortunes on marketing, only to hinder people from seeing it.
If the film is any good, people will buy it, right?
Online rental services are free marketing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889375</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890645</id>
	<title>How about been nice?</title>
	<author>AHuxley</author>
	<datestamp>1256643840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As an Australian all I can suggest is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:<br>
Rent and sell early.<br>
A no extras version with other movie trailers for rent and a DTS seller with 1 h making of doco.<br>
Bring it out as fast as you can after the release. <br>
Get staff in your t shirts, soundtracks and have posters ect.<br>
Be nice to the people buying your movie.<br>
Give us quality sound, a clear picture on dvd, blu ray and itunes.<br>
We will enjoy your work, review it, blog it, love it and buy more and more.
Dont make us wait months and month and months.<br>
We see the buzz in real time on the web and would so like to enjoy your work with our US friends.<br>
6 months later in the digital era is just an epic fail.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As an Australian all I can suggest is : Rent and sell early .
A no extras version with other movie trailers for rent and a DTS seller with 1 h making of doco .
Bring it out as fast as you can after the release .
Get staff in your t shirts , soundtracks and have posters ect .
Be nice to the people buying your movie .
Give us quality sound , a clear picture on dvd , blu ray and itunes .
We will enjoy your work , review it , blog it , love it and buy more and more .
Dont make us wait months and month and months .
We see the buzz in real time on the web and would so like to enjoy your work with our US friends .
6 months later in the digital era is just an epic fail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As an Australian all I can suggest is :
Rent and sell early.
A no extras version with other movie trailers for rent and a DTS seller with 1 h making of doco.
Bring it out as fast as you can after the release.
Get staff in your t shirts, soundtracks and have posters ect.
Be nice to the people buying your movie.
Give us quality sound, a clear picture on dvd, blu ray and itunes.
We will enjoy your work, review it, blog it, love it and buy more and more.
Dont make us wait months and month and months.
We see the buzz in real time on the web and would so like to enjoy your work with our US friends.
6 months later in the digital era is just an epic fail.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889459</id>
	<title>Will anyone care?</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1256639100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does anyone actually "line up" to see a movie when it's first released anymore? Especially these days, Hollywood is putting out utter drivel, so does it really matter if you see it today or in four weeks' time?</p><p>I think this might backfire on them. People who might be influenced by marketing buzz to see a movie right away, might forget about it by the time it reaches rental. But if they rent it during the new-release period, they might actually decide to buy it later.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone actually " line up " to see a movie when it 's first released anymore ?
Especially these days , Hollywood is putting out utter drivel , so does it really matter if you see it today or in four weeks ' time ? I think this might backfire on them .
People who might be influenced by marketing buzz to see a movie right away , might forget about it by the time it reaches rental .
But if they rent it during the new-release period , they might actually decide to buy it later .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone actually "line up" to see a movie when it's first released anymore?
Especially these days, Hollywood is putting out utter drivel, so does it really matter if you see it today or in four weeks' time?I think this might backfire on them.
People who might be influenced by marketing buzz to see a movie right away, might forget about it by the time it reaches rental.
But if they rent it during the new-release period, they might actually decide to buy it later.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29897701</id>
	<title>Will this....</title>
	<author>crhylove</author>
	<datestamp>1256746320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...Slow down my torrents in any way?</p><p>And if not, why exactly should I care?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...Slow down my torrents in any way ? And if not , why exactly should I care ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...Slow down my torrents in any way?And if not, why exactly should I care?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889375</id>
	<title>Great Idea!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256638740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, this is so stupid I don't even feel like making a snarky comment.<br>All I really have to say is the obvious: Screwing people only drives them towards piracy. People rent a movie because they don't want to pay $20-30 for something they will only watch once. Doing this won't change that, so if the option goes from "pirate it or rent it for $5" to "pirate it or buy it for $20", do you really think that's gonna help the studios?<br>So fucking stupid.<br>-Taylor</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , this is so stupid I do n't even feel like making a snarky comment.All I really have to say is the obvious : Screwing people only drives them towards piracy .
People rent a movie because they do n't want to pay $ 20-30 for something they will only watch once .
Doing this wo n't change that , so if the option goes from " pirate it or rent it for $ 5 " to " pirate it or buy it for $ 20 " , do you really think that 's gon na help the studios ? So fucking stupid.-Taylor</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, this is so stupid I don't even feel like making a snarky comment.All I really have to say is the obvious: Screwing people only drives them towards piracy.
People rent a movie because they don't want to pay $20-30 for something they will only watch once.
Doing this won't change that, so if the option goes from "pirate it or rent it for $5" to "pirate it or buy it for $20", do you really think that's gonna help the studios?So fucking stupid.-Taylor</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890135</id>
	<title>I have got 2 words for these media moguls</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256641680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Secret Myth</p><p><a href="http://thepiratebay.org/user/secret\_myth" title="thepiratebay.org" rel="nofollow">http://thepiratebay.org/user/secret\_myth</a> [thepiratebay.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Secret Mythhttp : //thepiratebay.org/user/secret \ _myth [ thepiratebay.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Secret Mythhttp://thepiratebay.org/user/secret\_myth [thepiratebay.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889329</id>
	<title>Increase profits for everyone...</title>
	<author>node 3</author>
	<datestamp>1256638620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This may increase profits for everyone, except the consumer. How wonderful. Thanks Capitalism!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This may increase profits for everyone , except the consumer .
How wonderful .
Thanks Capitalism !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This may increase profits for everyone, except the consumer.
How wonderful.
Thanks Capitalism!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891721</id>
	<title>Re:Will anyone care?</title>
	<author>Xtifr</author>
	<datestamp>1256649840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Does anyone actually "line up" to see a movie when it's first released anymore?</p></div><p>No, they buy tickets online or from a vending machine and get in much faster so there's no reason for the lines anymore.  At least, that's judging by the most recent releases I've seen, where there wasn't a line, but there was a packed house, just like there used to be when I had to wait in line.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I think this might backfire on them.</p></div><p>Now that's definitely true!  There's so many ways....<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone actually " line up " to see a movie when it 's first released anymore ? No , they buy tickets online or from a vending machine and get in much faster so there 's no reason for the lines anymore .
At least , that 's judging by the most recent releases I 've seen , where there was n't a line , but there was a packed house , just like there used to be when I had to wait in line.I think this might backfire on them.Now that 's definitely true !
There 's so many ways.... : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone actually "line up" to see a movie when it's first released anymore?No, they buy tickets online or from a vending machine and get in much faster so there's no reason for the lines anymore.
At least, that's judging by the most recent releases I've seen, where there wasn't a line, but there was a packed house, just like there used to be when I had to wait in line.I think this might backfire on them.Now that's definitely true!
There's so many ways.... :)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889459</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29892465</id>
	<title>I only buy when...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256656440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I often buy DVDs but usually wait until they get under the $10 range. The new Star Trek will be an exception to that policy, and i did buy 2 at 15 a piece, but 2 free here recently (used DVDs from Hollywood video noneless). Later i saw many of them in the sub $5 range. i need to wait longer i think...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I often buy DVDs but usually wait until they get under the $ 10 range .
The new Star Trek will be an exception to that policy , and i did buy 2 at 15 a piece , but 2 free here recently ( used DVDs from Hollywood video noneless ) .
Later i saw many of them in the sub $ 5 range .
i need to wait longer i think.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I often buy DVDs but usually wait until they get under the $10 range.
The new Star Trek will be an exception to that policy, and i did buy 2 at 15 a piece, but 2 free here recently (used DVDs from Hollywood video noneless).
Later i saw many of them in the sub $5 range.
i need to wait longer i think...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891405</id>
	<title>Further down the wrong path</title>
	<author>bobetov</author>
	<datestamp>1256647920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It always amazes me.  The studios blow ungodly sums to hype up a new movie.  They buy ads, the stars do interviews, etc. ad nauseum.  And then the movie is out!  But only in theaters!  And if you love it, and just can't wait to own a copy, well, actually, you have to wait.  Up to a year.  By which time, you've completely forgotten the movie, and your initial enthusiasm is gone, and all the hype is dust.</p><p>What a waste.</p><p>This is just more of the same.  Movie's out!  You'll love it!  But you can't see it!  HAHAHAHAHA!</p><p>Please god, let them die.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It always amazes me .
The studios blow ungodly sums to hype up a new movie .
They buy ads , the stars do interviews , etc .
ad nauseum .
And then the movie is out !
But only in theaters !
And if you love it , and just ca n't wait to own a copy , well , actually , you have to wait .
Up to a year .
By which time , you 've completely forgotten the movie , and your initial enthusiasm is gone , and all the hype is dust.What a waste.This is just more of the same .
Movie 's out !
You 'll love it !
But you ca n't see it !
HAHAHAHAHA ! Please god , let them die .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It always amazes me.
The studios blow ungodly sums to hype up a new movie.
They buy ads, the stars do interviews, etc.
ad nauseum.
And then the movie is out!
But only in theaters!
And if you love it, and just can't wait to own a copy, well, actually, you have to wait.
Up to a year.
By which time, you've completely forgotten the movie, and your initial enthusiasm is gone, and all the hype is dust.What a waste.This is just more of the same.
Movie's out!
You'll love it!
But you can't see it!
HAHAHAHAHA!Please god, let them die.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29896527</id>
	<title>Re:Actually, you can't rent out software or CDs</title>
	<author>Maximum Prophet</author>
	<datestamp>1256741640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, why don't the studios include a CD partition on every DVD with at least one song on it. Suddenly, that DVD is a "phonorecord", and can't be rented without permission.
<br>
If they really want to appease the anal lawyers, they could include a grooved topside that could play in a record player.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , why do n't the studios include a CD partition on every DVD with at least one song on it .
Suddenly , that DVD is a " phonorecord " , and ca n't be rented without permission .
If they really want to appease the anal lawyers , they could include a grooved topside that could play in a record player .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, why don't the studios include a CD partition on every DVD with at least one song on it.
Suddenly, that DVD is a "phonorecord", and can't be rented without permission.
If they really want to appease the anal lawyers, they could include a grooved topside that could play in a record player.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889677</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889633</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe they could ...</title>
	<author>sbeckstead</author>
	<datestamp>1256639700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>whooosh, or did you mean to be facetious and failed miserably?</htmltext>
<tokenext>whooosh , or did you mean to be facetious and failed miserably ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>whooosh, or did you mean to be facetious and failed miserably?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889341</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890009</id>
	<title>Easy solution - sell it the price of a rental</title>
	<author>Korbeau</author>
	<datestamp>1256641020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You'll put the rental industry out of business, get all their client-base, and still make huge profits<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 'll put the rental industry out of business , get all their client-base , and still make huge profits : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You'll put the rental industry out of business, get all their client-base, and still make huge profits :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889541</id>
	<title>Sure, It will work</title>
	<author>obijan</author>
	<datestamp>1256639400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just like it did for the mom and pop rental business, right?

Is it me or does it seems that they are making it harder and more painful all the time to legitimately buy/rent content?

Rental gets crippled/forbidden/goes out of business.  Everything get price increases and more DRM.

Are they trying to get more people to pirate, so the RIAA becomes more profitable?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just like it did for the mom and pop rental business , right ?
Is it me or does it seems that they are making it harder and more painful all the time to legitimately buy/rent content ?
Rental gets crippled/forbidden/goes out of business .
Everything get price increases and more DRM .
Are they trying to get more people to pirate , so the RIAA becomes more profitable ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just like it did for the mom and pop rental business, right?
Is it me or does it seems that they are making it harder and more painful all the time to legitimately buy/rent content?
Rental gets crippled/forbidden/goes out of business.
Everything get price increases and more DRM.
Are they trying to get more people to pirate, so the RIAA becomes more profitable?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890661</id>
	<title>Re:First sale doctrine?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256643900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Redbox doesn't, so the studios won't do business directly with Redbox, and (I think) have tried to shut them down.</p></div></blockquote><p>You have it backwards. The studios won't do business with Redbox due to their low prices so Redbox doesn't even have an opportunity to pay a tithe.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Redbox does n't , so the studios wo n't do business directly with Redbox , and ( I think ) have tried to shut them down.You have it backwards .
The studios wo n't do business with Redbox due to their low prices so Redbox does n't even have an opportunity to pay a tithe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Redbox doesn't, so the studios won't do business directly with Redbox, and (I think) have tried to shut them down.You have it backwards.
The studios won't do business with Redbox due to their low prices so Redbox doesn't even have an opportunity to pay a tithe.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29899731</id>
	<title>what could go wrong?</title>
	<author>Nekomusume</author>
	<datestamp>1256754840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most movie renters aren't likely interested in BUYING the movie at 10x the cost. Might make a bunch of people who would otherwise rent the movie go download it though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most movie renters are n't likely interested in BUYING the movie at 10x the cost .
Might make a bunch of people who would otherwise rent the movie go download it though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most movie renters aren't likely interested in BUYING the movie at 10x the cost.
Might make a bunch of people who would otherwise rent the movie go download it though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891483</id>
	<title>Pleasing the Customer...is our #1 job!</title>
	<author>geekmux</author>
	<datestamp>1256648220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>...I mean, who ever made a profit <em>pleasing</em> customers?....</p></div><p>(Hugh Hefner stands up)...."Ahem, perhaps you better take a harder look at those callouses on your dominant hand before asking such silly questions."</p><p>How quickly people forget the industry driving this technology...good old porn.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...I mean , who ever made a profit pleasing customers ? ... .
( Hugh Hefner stands up ) .... " Ahem , perhaps you better take a harder look at those callouses on your dominant hand before asking such silly questions .
" How quickly people forget the industry driving this technology...good old porn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...I mean, who ever made a profit pleasing customers?....
(Hugh Hefner stands up)...."Ahem, perhaps you better take a harder look at those callouses on your dominant hand before asking such silly questions.
"How quickly people forget the industry driving this technology...good old porn.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29892287</id>
	<title>copyright</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256654820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suspect it is a simple case of copyright.  You aren't buying a DVD.  You are buying a license to play the movie on the DVD along with the DVD.  The license is only for small showings, not for large showings or rentals.</p><p>I don't see why you shouldn't be able to make such restrictions with copyright, nor do such restrictions prevent any first sale type rights.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect it is a simple case of copyright .
You are n't buying a DVD .
You are buying a license to play the movie on the DVD along with the DVD .
The license is only for small showings , not for large showings or rentals.I do n't see why you should n't be able to make such restrictions with copyright , nor do such restrictions prevent any first sale type rights .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect it is a simple case of copyright.
You aren't buying a DVD.
You are buying a license to play the movie on the DVD along with the DVD.
The license is only for small showings, not for large showings or rentals.I don't see why you shouldn't be able to make such restrictions with copyright, nor do such restrictions prevent any first sale type rights.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29892403</id>
	<title>Corp vs Corp</title>
	<author>Pen420</author>
	<datestamp>1256655720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I work for a local movie rental store, and we buy our movies from the local retailer and put them up for rent. All the movie studios are going to succeed in doing is hurting the large corporations they can monitor which is fine by me. The more corporations battle each other, the better the local businessman can succeed without getting stomped by a mega corp.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I work for a local movie rental store , and we buy our movies from the local retailer and put them up for rent .
All the movie studios are going to succeed in doing is hurting the large corporations they can monitor which is fine by me .
The more corporations battle each other , the better the local businessman can succeed without getting stomped by a mega corp .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work for a local movie rental store, and we buy our movies from the local retailer and put them up for rent.
All the movie studios are going to succeed in doing is hurting the large corporations they can monitor which is fine by me.
The more corporations battle each other, the better the local businessman can succeed without getting stomped by a mega corp.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890603</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone explain..</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1256643600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Simple. The legal principle of "when you cave to another one's reality, you are bound to follow it". Meaning, that when you let others decide what is right and wrong, and how the rules are, then they will decide. And they will decide in favor of them, of course.</p><p>The real question it: Why do millions of people actually ask a handful of bullies how the rules are, and why? Of course they will come up with a rule that makes sense in their logic/reality. So when you follow that one, you are bound to follow that too.</p><p>Don't. Simple as that. And being in the minority is no excuse. The rebels in Germany, Korea, etc also do not care that they are in the minority. That's why they will be the leaders of tomorrow: Having the strongest reality. Being the most secure in his system of values.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Simple .
The legal principle of " when you cave to another one 's reality , you are bound to follow it " .
Meaning , that when you let others decide what is right and wrong , and how the rules are , then they will decide .
And they will decide in favor of them , of course.The real question it : Why do millions of people actually ask a handful of bullies how the rules are , and why ?
Of course they will come up with a rule that makes sense in their logic/reality .
So when you follow that one , you are bound to follow that too.Do n't .
Simple as that .
And being in the minority is no excuse .
The rebels in Germany , Korea , etc also do not care that they are in the minority .
That 's why they will be the leaders of tomorrow : Having the strongest reality .
Being the most secure in his system of values .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Simple.
The legal principle of "when you cave to another one's reality, you are bound to follow it".
Meaning, that when you let others decide what is right and wrong, and how the rules are, then they will decide.
And they will decide in favor of them, of course.The real question it: Why do millions of people actually ask a handful of bullies how the rules are, and why?
Of course they will come up with a rule that makes sense in their logic/reality.
So when you follow that one, you are bound to follow that too.Don't.
Simple as that.
And being in the minority is no excuse.
The rebels in Germany, Korea, etc also do not care that they are in the minority.
That's why they will be the leaders of tomorrow: Having the strongest reality.
Being the most secure in his system of values.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890019</id>
	<title>We've been here before.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256641080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In 2001, Warner Home Video and the Australian Video Retailers Association fought it out in the courts. The issue? Warner was charging video hire stores (and their distributors) a larger sum of money for DVDs that Warner said they could legally rent out; the cheaper, retail DVDs were, according to Warner, not legal to rent out.</p><p>Warner lost.</p><p>This is just more of the same: film studios and similar trying to eke out as much money as they can get, for as little effort as possible, for their copyright material. They're not going to win this time, either; the only winners, though, are going to be the lawyers as the battle is fought.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In 2001 , Warner Home Video and the Australian Video Retailers Association fought it out in the courts .
The issue ?
Warner was charging video hire stores ( and their distributors ) a larger sum of money for DVDs that Warner said they could legally rent out ; the cheaper , retail DVDs were , according to Warner , not legal to rent out.Warner lost.This is just more of the same : film studios and similar trying to eke out as much money as they can get , for as little effort as possible , for their copyright material .
They 're not going to win this time , either ; the only winners , though , are going to be the lawyers as the battle is fought .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In 2001, Warner Home Video and the Australian Video Retailers Association fought it out in the courts.
The issue?
Warner was charging video hire stores (and their distributors) a larger sum of money for DVDs that Warner said they could legally rent out; the cheaper, retail DVDs were, according to Warner, not legal to rent out.Warner lost.This is just more of the same: film studios and similar trying to eke out as much money as they can get, for as little effort as possible, for their copyright material.
They're not going to win this time, either; the only winners, though, are going to be the lawyers as the battle is fought.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890855</id>
	<title>Calm down, it's nothing new (sort of)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256644920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For those of you too young to remember (i.e. everyone here), this is nothing new.  This is a return to the VHS days but in reverse (OK, so maybe that makes it sort of new).  Back then (though it changed in the 90's) movies were released at crazy prices-- like $60- $100.  The video stores would buy them by the truckload so the studios would make money-- the only money they'd make off rentals.  Some time later, several months or more, if it was felt that a title would sell, the price would come down to $20.  So while you weren't prohibited from buying a new release no one wanted to pay that price.  This practice was changed when studios began profit participation with the rental companies.  (Note: Some movies, movies that the studios felt everyone would want to buy, like Disney films, Star Wars, etc. would come out at sell-through pricing right away. Those were rare.)</p><p>As for complaining about having to wait a few extra weeks now for DVD rentals, don't worry, the video release window has been shortening, so even with the extra wait for a title to be available for rental it's still going to be slightly shorter than how long you used to have to wait (say a year or so ago) for movies to be released on DVD.  The window used to be 8 weeks or so, sometimes longer, but now it's about 4, so even with a few weeks of waiting for the rental window to open you're still getting them in less time.  (Remember?  A movie that came out in spring would only show up on video around Christmas.  Now that movie will show up by the end of summer.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For those of you too young to remember ( i.e .
everyone here ) , this is nothing new .
This is a return to the VHS days but in reverse ( OK , so maybe that makes it sort of new ) .
Back then ( though it changed in the 90 's ) movies were released at crazy prices-- like $ 60- $ 100 .
The video stores would buy them by the truckload so the studios would make money-- the only money they 'd make off rentals .
Some time later , several months or more , if it was felt that a title would sell , the price would come down to $ 20 .
So while you were n't prohibited from buying a new release no one wanted to pay that price .
This practice was changed when studios began profit participation with the rental companies .
( Note : Some movies , movies that the studios felt everyone would want to buy , like Disney films , Star Wars , etc .
would come out at sell-through pricing right away .
Those were rare .
) As for complaining about having to wait a few extra weeks now for DVD rentals , do n't worry , the video release window has been shortening , so even with the extra wait for a title to be available for rental it 's still going to be slightly shorter than how long you used to have to wait ( say a year or so ago ) for movies to be released on DVD .
The window used to be 8 weeks or so , sometimes longer , but now it 's about 4 , so even with a few weeks of waiting for the rental window to open you 're still getting them in less time .
( Remember ? A movie that came out in spring would only show up on video around Christmas .
Now that movie will show up by the end of summer .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For those of you too young to remember (i.e.
everyone here), this is nothing new.
This is a return to the VHS days but in reverse (OK, so maybe that makes it sort of new).
Back then (though it changed in the 90's) movies were released at crazy prices-- like $60- $100.
The video stores would buy them by the truckload so the studios would make money-- the only money they'd make off rentals.
Some time later, several months or more, if it was felt that a title would sell, the price would come down to $20.
So while you weren't prohibited from buying a new release no one wanted to pay that price.
This practice was changed when studios began profit participation with the rental companies.
(Note: Some movies, movies that the studios felt everyone would want to buy, like Disney films, Star Wars, etc.
would come out at sell-through pricing right away.
Those were rare.
)As for complaining about having to wait a few extra weeks now for DVD rentals, don't worry, the video release window has been shortening, so even with the extra wait for a title to be available for rental it's still going to be slightly shorter than how long you used to have to wait (say a year or so ago) for movies to be released on DVD.
The window used to be 8 weeks or so, sometimes longer, but now it's about 4, so even with a few weeks of waiting for the rental window to open you're still getting them in less time.
(Remember?  A movie that came out in spring would only show up on video around Christmas.
Now that movie will show up by the end of summer.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890993</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe they could ...</title>
	<author>Rhonwyn</author>
	<datestamp>1256645580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This would only be plausable if they charged less than the cost of the DVD they were showing.  Since a movie rental is roughly $5, and for that I get to watch it as much as I want, with as many people as I want, in my own home, a shared viewing of a DVD on a large screen should be $2-3/person.  At that rate, they pay for the DVD with 10 people and I save a little money over renting it at the cost of having to deal with other people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This would only be plausable if they charged less than the cost of the DVD they were showing .
Since a movie rental is roughly $ 5 , and for that I get to watch it as much as I want , with as many people as I want , in my own home , a shared viewing of a DVD on a large screen should be $ 2-3/person .
At that rate , they pay for the DVD with 10 people and I save a little money over renting it at the cost of having to deal with other people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This would only be plausable if they charged less than the cost of the DVD they were showing.
Since a movie rental is roughly $5, and for that I get to watch it as much as I want, with as many people as I want, in my own home, a shared viewing of a DVD on a large screen should be $2-3/person.
At that rate, they pay for the DVD with 10 people and I save a little money over renting it at the cost of having to deal with other people.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891039</id>
	<title>Re:Another Viewpoint</title>
	<author>TikiTDO</author>
	<datestamp>1256645820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Piracy has been reigned in? When did that happen, I must have missed the memo.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Piracy has been reigned in ?
When did that happen , I must have missed the memo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Piracy has been reigned in?
When did that happen, I must have missed the memo.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889823</id>
	<title>Re:Great Idea!</title>
	<author>vikstar</author>
	<datestamp>1256640300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a great move, no sarcasm intended. I will now not be tempted to rent instead of downloading, saving me $5.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a great move , no sarcasm intended .
I will now not be tempted to rent instead of downloading , saving me $ 5 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a great move, no sarcasm intended.
I will now not be tempted to rent instead of downloading, saving me $5.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890357</id>
	<title>Re:Right &amp; Wrong</title>
	<author>b4dc0d3r</author>
	<datestamp>1256642580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Movie business model:<br>1) Make a trailer that looks cool<br>2) Fill the other hour and 29 minutes so the trailer seems to have had a plot<br>3) Hope people pile into theaters on opening night, before word gets out that it sucks<br>4) Buy TV advertising to tell the non-moviegoing crowd you can have it at home<br>5) Make sure the advert contains only those parts of the trailer that list the headline stars<br>6) Hope people pile into something other than a video rental store to buy before word gets out that it sucks</p><p>In other words, it's the world's only product you are expected to purchase sight-unseen with no refunds.  Sure you can buy other things unseen, but this is the entire business model.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Movie business model : 1 ) Make a trailer that looks cool2 ) Fill the other hour and 29 minutes so the trailer seems to have had a plot3 ) Hope people pile into theaters on opening night , before word gets out that it sucks4 ) Buy TV advertising to tell the non-moviegoing crowd you can have it at home5 ) Make sure the advert contains only those parts of the trailer that list the headline stars6 ) Hope people pile into something other than a video rental store to buy before word gets out that it sucksIn other words , it 's the world 's only product you are expected to purchase sight-unseen with no refunds .
Sure you can buy other things unseen , but this is the entire business model .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Movie business model:1) Make a trailer that looks cool2) Fill the other hour and 29 minutes so the trailer seems to have had a plot3) Hope people pile into theaters on opening night, before word gets out that it sucks4) Buy TV advertising to tell the non-moviegoing crowd you can have it at home5) Make sure the advert contains only those parts of the trailer that list the headline stars6) Hope people pile into something other than a video rental store to buy before word gets out that it sucksIn other words, it's the world's only product you are expected to purchase sight-unseen with no refunds.
Sure you can buy other things unseen, but this is the entire business model.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891687</id>
	<title>Re:RedBox Lawsuits - Copyright Misuse</title>
	<author>mabhatter654</author>
	<datestamp>1256649660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But the point is RedBox DOESN'T HAVE a contract and doesn't need one. They buy their rental licensed DVDs from distributors the same way any other video store does for fairly set prices by the studios.  The studios singled them out and interfered with the free sales of the distributors by telling distributors to withhold shipments from RedBox unilaterally. Now to get their scheduled purchases, the studios want RedBox to sign special agreements... when lots of other little video stores from the same distributors don't have to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But the point is RedBox DOES N'T HAVE a contract and does n't need one .
They buy their rental licensed DVDs from distributors the same way any other video store does for fairly set prices by the studios .
The studios singled them out and interfered with the free sales of the distributors by telling distributors to withhold shipments from RedBox unilaterally .
Now to get their scheduled purchases , the studios want RedBox to sign special agreements... when lots of other little video stores from the same distributors do n't have to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But the point is RedBox DOESN'T HAVE a contract and doesn't need one.
They buy their rental licensed DVDs from distributors the same way any other video store does for fairly set prices by the studios.
The studios singled them out and interfered with the free sales of the distributors by telling distributors to withhold shipments from RedBox unilaterally.
Now to get their scheduled purchases, the studios want RedBox to sign special agreements... when lots of other little video stores from the same distributors don't have to.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890081</id>
	<title>Re:Can someone explain..</title>
	<author>jmorris42</author>
	<datestamp>1256641380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; How this is possible? I don't understand the whole rental world.</p><p>No, you don't.  So I'll explain it in a nutshell.  Remember when BlockBuster started their new releases always in stock campaign?  That was when everything changed.  Before rental stores could just buy em off the rack and rent them.  But there was no way to buy enough copies to sustain that first two weeks when a new release came out and make a profit that way.  Meanwhile Hollywood HATED rental, they made one lousy sale and BlockBuster got to keep renting it until it was too scratched to play anymore.</p><p>So a deal was made.  Blockbuster got as many copies as they wanted really cheap but Hollywood gets a taste of the rental revenue stream.  Everyone else then made similar deals or went out of business since they couldn't compete anymore.  New releases are where the action is.</p><p>Btw, VHS rental had a different solution.  Hollywood developed the 'self destructing videotape' which could only play a couple dozen times and shifted retail sales to them as they dropped the prices to $20-$30 instead of the original $80+ Videotapes started at.  Of course they offered the rental chains the original tape formulation at the original high prices.  So rental shops would buy a couple of them plus a bunch of the short lifespan copies to handle the initial surge.  As demand dropped they would unload the crappy ones on the 'previewed' shelf before they were totally useless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; How this is possible ?
I do n't understand the whole rental world.No , you do n't .
So I 'll explain it in a nutshell .
Remember when BlockBuster started their new releases always in stock campaign ?
That was when everything changed .
Before rental stores could just buy em off the rack and rent them .
But there was no way to buy enough copies to sustain that first two weeks when a new release came out and make a profit that way .
Meanwhile Hollywood HATED rental , they made one lousy sale and BlockBuster got to keep renting it until it was too scratched to play anymore.So a deal was made .
Blockbuster got as many copies as they wanted really cheap but Hollywood gets a taste of the rental revenue stream .
Everyone else then made similar deals or went out of business since they could n't compete anymore .
New releases are where the action is.Btw , VHS rental had a different solution .
Hollywood developed the 'self destructing videotape ' which could only play a couple dozen times and shifted retail sales to them as they dropped the prices to $ 20- $ 30 instead of the original $ 80 + Videotapes started at .
Of course they offered the rental chains the original tape formulation at the original high prices .
So rental shops would buy a couple of them plus a bunch of the short lifespan copies to handle the initial surge .
As demand dropped they would unload the crappy ones on the 'previewed ' shelf before they were totally useless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; How this is possible?
I don't understand the whole rental world.No, you don't.
So I'll explain it in a nutshell.
Remember when BlockBuster started their new releases always in stock campaign?
That was when everything changed.
Before rental stores could just buy em off the rack and rent them.
But there was no way to buy enough copies to sustain that first two weeks when a new release came out and make a profit that way.
Meanwhile Hollywood HATED rental, they made one lousy sale and BlockBuster got to keep renting it until it was too scratched to play anymore.So a deal was made.
Blockbuster got as many copies as they wanted really cheap but Hollywood gets a taste of the rental revenue stream.
Everyone else then made similar deals or went out of business since they couldn't compete anymore.
New releases are where the action is.Btw, VHS rental had a different solution.
Hollywood developed the 'self destructing videotape' which could only play a couple dozen times and shifted retail sales to them as they dropped the prices to $20-$30 instead of the original $80+ Videotapes started at.
Of course they offered the rental chains the original tape formulation at the original high prices.
So rental shops would buy a couple of them plus a bunch of the short lifespan copies to handle the initial surge.
As demand dropped they would unload the crappy ones on the 'previewed' shelf before they were totally useless.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891049</id>
	<title>Re:Blockbuster+Netflix != only game in town</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256645820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just 5 years ago there was a Blockbuster, Hollywood video, a local chain called Coconuts, and maybe six or seven of those small independent stores you mentioned within walking distance of my house.   Every single one has since closed down.  Now there is only one place that I'm aware of still renting movies - a Redbox kiosk in front of the supermarket.</p><p>I wish I could find statistics, but I'd wager there are precious few independent owners left.  With digital distribution, mail distribution, and the extremely cost-efficient Redoxes, there's little room for them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just 5 years ago there was a Blockbuster , Hollywood video , a local chain called Coconuts , and maybe six or seven of those small independent stores you mentioned within walking distance of my house .
Every single one has since closed down .
Now there is only one place that I 'm aware of still renting movies - a Redbox kiosk in front of the supermarket.I wish I could find statistics , but I 'd wager there are precious few independent owners left .
With digital distribution , mail distribution , and the extremely cost-efficient Redoxes , there 's little room for them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just 5 years ago there was a Blockbuster, Hollywood video, a local chain called Coconuts, and maybe six or seven of those small independent stores you mentioned within walking distance of my house.
Every single one has since closed down.
Now there is only one place that I'm aware of still renting movies - a Redbox kiosk in front of the supermarket.I wish I could find statistics, but I'd wager there are precious few independent owners left.
With digital distribution, mail distribution, and the extremely cost-efficient Redoxes, there's little room for them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890025</id>
	<title>Re:I used to buy DVDs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256641140000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>I believe that the main problem is that the film industry hasn't arrived yet to the conclusion that movies became a consumable not a luxury good. Any computer reads DVDs and most of the people have one at home. Movies are not like a BMW or a diamond ring, and they can be easily replicated. If they don't find a way to encourage people to buy their products, or evolve enough to make people buy "accessories" and profit from that, forcing them is not going to be an option.<blockquote><div><p> <tt>sudo buy movie</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>only works for sticky figures<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:).</p></div>
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<tokenext>I believe that the main problem is that the film industry has n't arrived yet to the conclusion that movies became a consumable not a luxury good .
Any computer reads DVDs and most of the people have one at home .
Movies are not like a BMW or a diamond ring , and they can be easily replicated .
If they do n't find a way to encourage people to buy their products , or evolve enough to make people buy " accessories " and profit from that , forcing them is not going to be an option .
sudo buy movie only works for sticky figures : ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe that the main problem is that the film industry hasn't arrived yet to the conclusion that movies became a consumable not a luxury good.
Any computer reads DVDs and most of the people have one at home.
Movies are not like a BMW or a diamond ring, and they can be easily replicated.
If they don't find a way to encourage people to buy their products, or evolve enough to make people buy "accessories" and profit from that, forcing them is not going to be an option.
sudo buy movie only works for sticky figures :).
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889661</id>
	<title>Typo in summary</title>
	<author>SleazyRidr</author>
	<datestamp>1256639820000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The LA Times reports that in an effort to push consumers toward pirating more movies, some major film studios are considering a new policy that would block DVDs from being offered for rental until several weeks after going on sale.</p></div><p>Fix'd that for you.</p></div>
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<tokenext>The LA Times reports that in an effort to push consumers toward pirating more movies , some major film studios are considering a new policy that would block DVDs from being offered for rental until several weeks after going on sale.Fix 'd that for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The LA Times reports that in an effort to push consumers toward pirating more movies, some major film studios are considering a new policy that would block DVDs from being offered for rental until several weeks after going on sale.Fix'd that for you.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29926143</id>
	<title>Re:Another Viewpoint</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256927580000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I'd put another +5 to your post, but sadly I don't have any.<br>So: AOL; most new movies simply suck.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd put another + 5 to your post , but sadly I do n't have any.So : AOL ; most new movies simply suck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd put another +5 to your post, but sadly I don't have any.So: AOL; most new movies simply suck.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889523</id>
	<title>Re:Increase piracy</title>
	<author>Killer Orca</author>
	<datestamp>1256639340000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Simple they are hoping that the people who mostly rent movies are not the technically savvy type.  I too was surprised when Redbox became popular, I figured that once you kept a movies for more than 11 days a month it made more sense to get Netflix, plus the streaming dear god recent TV show streaming is great.  It has still found its niche market though and turned a profit.  The studios are hoping that if they can cartel up they can wield more power over outfits like Hollywood Video, Redbox, Blockbuster and Netflix while simultaneously increasing DVD sales.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Simple they are hoping that the people who mostly rent movies are not the technically savvy type .
I too was surprised when Redbox became popular , I figured that once you kept a movies for more than 11 days a month it made more sense to get Netflix , plus the streaming dear god recent TV show streaming is great .
It has still found its niche market though and turned a profit .
The studios are hoping that if they can cartel up they can wield more power over outfits like Hollywood Video , Redbox , Blockbuster and Netflix while simultaneously increasing DVD sales .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Simple they are hoping that the people who mostly rent movies are not the technically savvy type.
I too was surprised when Redbox became popular, I figured that once you kept a movies for more than 11 days a month it made more sense to get Netflix, plus the streaming dear god recent TV show streaming is great.
It has still found its niche market though and turned a profit.
The studios are hoping that if they can cartel up they can wield more power over outfits like Hollywood Video, Redbox, Blockbuster and Netflix while simultaneously increasing DVD sales.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889603</id>
	<title>Collusion</title>
	<author>MobyDisk</author>
	<datestamp>1256639580000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>If all the studios are considering this at that same time, then it sounds like they discussed it amongst each other?  If so, isn't that collusion?  That is is illegal in the United States, and probably elsewhere.</p><p>Any time I hear a business model where depriving customers of something increases sales, I start looking for the anti-competitive practices are happening.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If all the studios are considering this at that same time , then it sounds like they discussed it amongst each other ?
If so , is n't that collusion ?
That is is illegal in the United States , and probably elsewhere.Any time I hear a business model where depriving customers of something increases sales , I start looking for the anti-competitive practices are happening .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If all the studios are considering this at that same time, then it sounds like they discussed it amongst each other?
If so, isn't that collusion?
That is is illegal in the United States, and probably elsewhere.Any time I hear a business model where depriving customers of something increases sales, I start looking for the anti-competitive practices are happening.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889615</id>
	<title>Re:God forbid...</title>
	<author>sbeckstead</author>
	<datestamp>1256639640000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>I would have hoped that you would actually understand what anti-trust meant but that was too much to hope for too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would have hoped that you would actually understand what anti-trust meant but that was too much to hope for too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would have hoped that you would actually understand what anti-trust meant but that was too much to hope for too.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29892443</id>
	<title>This is ridiculous...</title>
	<author>Real1tyCzech</author>
	<datestamp>1256656140000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>The studios are cutting off their own cash supply.</p><p>Right now, at least in the US, the scales are tipping.  The folks that were raised with the VHS/DVD mentality are slipping under the "majority".  The new majority doesn't want the DVDs.  They realize they don't need to have the physical media, and don't care to "build a library" of movies they'll only watch once.</p><p>These people are *dying* to give the studios their money but are limited to options they do not care for.</p><p>These people are paying $20+ a month now for movies and TV shows that have been out for ages already on Netflix.  These people would be giving that money directly to a studio-run group that offered new releases and "in season" TV programming.  In a heartbeat.  It's a no-brainer.</p><p>But no such group, no such site, no such service exists...much to our dismay.</p><p>We don't buy DVD's.  We don't get "captured" by ratings.  We wait.  We wait for them to come out @ RedBox, or on Netflix, or Hulu...  We wait to spend our money, and we end up spending less because we forget some of the movies we saw previews for that we would have watched, and we forget about shows that we don't have time to follow on TV....and when the radio stations stop playing the songs we liked...we've moved on as well.</p><p>The studios and labels could be getting this money and then some...NOW.</p><p>If they'd only pull their heads out of their asses long enough to watch us spend it elsewhere.</p><p>I subscribe to Netflix.</p><p>I subscribe to Pandora.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...and I am wondering when the studios and labels will decide *my* money is good enough for *them*.  Until then, they'll see only a small percentage of what they *could* be getting from me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The studios are cutting off their own cash supply.Right now , at least in the US , the scales are tipping .
The folks that were raised with the VHS/DVD mentality are slipping under the " majority " .
The new majority does n't want the DVDs .
They realize they do n't need to have the physical media , and do n't care to " build a library " of movies they 'll only watch once.These people are * dying * to give the studios their money but are limited to options they do not care for.These people are paying $ 20 + a month now for movies and TV shows that have been out for ages already on Netflix .
These people would be giving that money directly to a studio-run group that offered new releases and " in season " TV programming .
In a heartbeat .
It 's a no-brainer.But no such group , no such site , no such service exists...much to our dismay.We do n't buy DVD 's .
We do n't get " captured " by ratings .
We wait .
We wait for them to come out @ RedBox , or on Netflix , or Hulu... We wait to spend our money , and we end up spending less because we forget some of the movies we saw previews for that we would have watched , and we forget about shows that we do n't have time to follow on TV....and when the radio stations stop playing the songs we liked...we 've moved on as well.The studios and labels could be getting this money and then some...NOW.If they 'd only pull their heads out of their asses long enough to watch us spend it elsewhere.I subscribe to Netflix.I subscribe to Pandora .
...and I am wondering when the studios and labels will decide * my * money is good enough for * them * .
Until then , they 'll see only a small percentage of what they * could * be getting from me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The studios are cutting off their own cash supply.Right now, at least in the US, the scales are tipping.
The folks that were raised with the VHS/DVD mentality are slipping under the "majority".
The new majority doesn't want the DVDs.
They realize they don't need to have the physical media, and don't care to "build a library" of movies they'll only watch once.These people are *dying* to give the studios their money but are limited to options they do not care for.These people are paying $20+ a month now for movies and TV shows that have been out for ages already on Netflix.
These people would be giving that money directly to a studio-run group that offered new releases and "in season" TV programming.
In a heartbeat.
It's a no-brainer.But no such group, no such site, no such service exists...much to our dismay.We don't buy DVD's.
We don't get "captured" by ratings.
We wait.
We wait for them to come out @ RedBox, or on Netflix, or Hulu...  We wait to spend our money, and we end up spending less because we forget some of the movies we saw previews for that we would have watched, and we forget about shows that we don't have time to follow on TV....and when the radio stations stop playing the songs we liked...we've moved on as well.The studios and labels could be getting this money and then some...NOW.If they'd only pull their heads out of their asses long enough to watch us spend it elsewhere.I subscribe to Netflix.I subscribe to Pandora.
...and I am wondering when the studios and labels will decide *my* money is good enough for *them*.
Until then, they'll see only a small percentage of what they *could* be getting from me.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891301</id>
	<title>It's like Christmas Morning</title>
	<author>Aging\_Newbie</author>
	<datestamp>1256647380000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>When I hear about a new movie, I immediately (before I forget!!!) go to Netflix and add it to my queue.  Then, I know, just like planting tulip bulbs in the fall, that some day in the future I will have a pleasant surprise when the movie shows up as available.  Add a month, take away a month<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... who cares<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... only if the movie were really exceptional would I actually buy tickets and go see it in a theater.  Not that it is impossible, I went to a movie in the past year<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but it better be really good and it better benefit from the big screen, big speakers, and big popcorn<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... or I will wait patiently for Netflix.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I hear about a new movie , I immediately ( before I forget ! ! !
) go to Netflix and add it to my queue .
Then , I know , just like planting tulip bulbs in the fall , that some day in the future I will have a pleasant surprise when the movie shows up as available .
Add a month , take away a month ... who cares ... only if the movie were really exceptional would I actually buy tickets and go see it in a theater .
Not that it is impossible , I went to a movie in the past year ... but it better be really good and it better benefit from the big screen , big speakers , and big popcorn .... or I will wait patiently for Netflix .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I hear about a new movie, I immediately (before I forget!!!
) go to Netflix and add it to my queue.
Then, I know, just like planting tulip bulbs in the fall, that some day in the future I will have a pleasant surprise when the movie shows up as available.
Add a month, take away a month ... who cares ... only if the movie were really exceptional would I actually buy tickets and go see it in a theater.
Not that it is impossible, I went to a movie in the past year ... but it better be really good and it better benefit from the big screen, big speakers, and big popcorn .... or I will wait patiently for Netflix.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889547</id>
	<title>Re:Increase profits for everyone...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256639400000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>idiot</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>idiot</tokentext>
<sentencetext>idiot</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29892851</id>
	<title>Re:Right &amp; Wrong</title>
	<author>sincewhen</author>
	<datestamp>1256659560000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>but it's more likely to drive people to torrents.</p></div><p>They already have a plan in place to reduce losses through torrents...</p><p>
They are making the movies so bad that no-one will want to download them!</p></div>
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<tokenext>but it 's more likely to drive people to torrents.They already have a plan in place to reduce losses through torrents.. . They are making the movies so bad that no-one will want to download them !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but it's more likely to drive people to torrents.They already have a plan in place to reduce losses through torrents...
They are making the movies so bad that no-one will want to download them!
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889981</id>
	<title>I don't care</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1256640960000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>All the movies I've rented since the last six months or so have been from iTunes' "99 cents movies of the week" selections. They have three movies every week for the U.S.A. and Canada, and one every week for the U.K. (used to be a single movie for Canada too, so there's hope for the U.K.)</p><p>Available in the <a href="http://www.99rental.com/" title="99rental.com">U.S.A.</a> [99rental.com], the <a href="http://www.99rental.com/uk" title="99rental.com">U.K.</a> [99rental.com] and <a href="http://www.99rental.com/ca" title="99rental.com">Canada</a> [99rental.com].</p><p>So if the studios think their little delay of a few weeks will affect everyone, they better think again. Watching movies is way, WAY down on the list of things we need to do to live.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All the movies I 've rented since the last six months or so have been from iTunes ' " 99 cents movies of the week " selections .
They have three movies every week for the U.S.A. and Canada , and one every week for the U.K. ( used to be a single movie for Canada too , so there 's hope for the U.K. ) Available in the U.S.A. [ 99rental.com ] , the U.K. [ 99rental.com ] and Canada [ 99rental.com ] .So if the studios think their little delay of a few weeks will affect everyone , they better think again .
Watching movies is way , WAY down on the list of things we need to do to live .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All the movies I've rented since the last six months or so have been from iTunes' "99 cents movies of the week" selections.
They have three movies every week for the U.S.A. and Canada, and one every week for the U.K. (used to be a single movie for Canada too, so there's hope for the U.K.)Available in the U.S.A. [99rental.com], the U.K. [99rental.com] and Canada [99rental.com].So if the studios think their little delay of a few weeks will affect everyone, they better think again.
Watching movies is way, WAY down on the list of things we need to do to live.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Another Viewpoint</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1256753100000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Considering I can get pretty much any movie via torrent for free, and for the most part I don't want them even then. Its a pretty simple principle. Make a shitty product, and people will not want it. Sure you might fool a few with hype, but after being fooled a number of times, even that becomes an ineffective business plan. Off the top of my head I can't think of one good movie this year. If I look up online to see what actually came out I can only fine two I would even classify as "pretty good". 1) Watchmen - Not because it was a good movie, but because it was the Watchmen, and 2) Star Trek - Despite its flaws I did enjoy it, mostly as I thought the new actors did a good job capturing the original cast.</p><p>I read somewhere that despite the claims of the media association, more movies are released today than ever, roughly double that of 5 years ago. Which if you pay any attention to what they have been saying, really makes little sense. The well of my tears has run dry for these bums a long time ago.</p><p>This is the same scam/profiteering that the book cartel does with hardcover vs softcover books. Sure you can pay 30$ for a hard copy when it comes out, or wait a year and buy it for 10$ when the softcover comes out. The only reason to do this is to artificially inflate the more expensive hardcover sales. I guess they figure after a year everyone that is willing to shell out for the hardcover already has, might as well now release it for the cheapo people now... I am not sure how entire industries get away with this sort of activity (not to mention paying 35\% premium in Canada compared to the US to buy a book produced and distributed in Canada when the dollar is at par). There is a name for these type of people. They are called "crooks".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering I can get pretty much any movie via torrent for free , and for the most part I do n't want them even then .
Its a pretty simple principle .
Make a shitty product , and people will not want it .
Sure you might fool a few with hype , but after being fooled a number of times , even that becomes an ineffective business plan .
Off the top of my head I ca n't think of one good movie this year .
If I look up online to see what actually came out I can only fine two I would even classify as " pretty good " .
1 ) Watchmen - Not because it was a good movie , but because it was the Watchmen , and 2 ) Star Trek - Despite its flaws I did enjoy it , mostly as I thought the new actors did a good job capturing the original cast.I read somewhere that despite the claims of the media association , more movies are released today than ever , roughly double that of 5 years ago .
Which if you pay any attention to what they have been saying , really makes little sense .
The well of my tears has run dry for these bums a long time ago.This is the same scam/profiteering that the book cartel does with hardcover vs softcover books .
Sure you can pay 30 $ for a hard copy when it comes out , or wait a year and buy it for 10 $ when the softcover comes out .
The only reason to do this is to artificially inflate the more expensive hardcover sales .
I guess they figure after a year everyone that is willing to shell out for the hardcover already has , might as well now release it for the cheapo people now... I am not sure how entire industries get away with this sort of activity ( not to mention paying 35 \ % premium in Canada compared to the US to buy a book produced and distributed in Canada when the dollar is at par ) .
There is a name for these type of people .
They are called " crooks " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering I can get pretty much any movie via torrent for free, and for the most part I don't want them even then.
Its a pretty simple principle.
Make a shitty product, and people will not want it.
Sure you might fool a few with hype, but after being fooled a number of times, even that becomes an ineffective business plan.
Off the top of my head I can't think of one good movie this year.
If I look up online to see what actually came out I can only fine two I would even classify as "pretty good".
1) Watchmen - Not because it was a good movie, but because it was the Watchmen, and 2) Star Trek - Despite its flaws I did enjoy it, mostly as I thought the new actors did a good job capturing the original cast.I read somewhere that despite the claims of the media association, more movies are released today than ever, roughly double that of 5 years ago.
Which if you pay any attention to what they have been saying, really makes little sense.
The well of my tears has run dry for these bums a long time ago.This is the same scam/profiteering that the book cartel does with hardcover vs softcover books.
Sure you can pay 30$ for a hard copy when it comes out, or wait a year and buy it for 10$ when the softcover comes out.
The only reason to do this is to artificially inflate the more expensive hardcover sales.
I guess they figure after a year everyone that is willing to shell out for the hardcover already has, might as well now release it for the cheapo people now... I am not sure how entire industries get away with this sort of activity (not to mention paying 35\% premium in Canada compared to the US to buy a book produced and distributed in Canada when the dollar is at par).
There is a name for these type of people.
They are called "crooks".</sentencetext>
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	<title>Already moved to DVD from VHS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256639940000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>About 10 years ago, I started the tedious process of moving all my movies from VHS to DVD, buying the sale and cheap DVD's. As of a few months ago, I no longer have a VHS player, any VHS movies, or any need for them.  I have all my favorite movies on DVD, and I don't need to replace them if the tape goes bad (Disney, I'm looking at you and some of your crappy-even-though-it's-in-nonstandard-large-boxes tapes).</p><p>I don't see a big enough difference between upconverted DVD's and Blu-Ray to justify re-buying all my movies again.  As for new movies (I buy a few a year) I just wait until they go on sale.</p><p>I am not a Netflix user, nor have I rented a movie in years for three reasons: Amazon, Borrowing from Friends or Bargain Bins.</p><p>Why rent a movie for $3 from Blockbuster, when you can buy the same movie for $5 from Target?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>About 10 years ago , I started the tedious process of moving all my movies from VHS to DVD , buying the sale and cheap DVD 's .
As of a few months ago , I no longer have a VHS player , any VHS movies , or any need for them .
I have all my favorite movies on DVD , and I do n't need to replace them if the tape goes bad ( Disney , I 'm looking at you and some of your crappy-even-though-it 's-in-nonstandard-large-boxes tapes ) .I do n't see a big enough difference between upconverted DVD 's and Blu-Ray to justify re-buying all my movies again .
As for new movies ( I buy a few a year ) I just wait until they go on sale.I am not a Netflix user , nor have I rented a movie in years for three reasons : Amazon , Borrowing from Friends or Bargain Bins.Why rent a movie for $ 3 from Blockbuster , when you can buy the same movie for $ 5 from Target ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>About 10 years ago, I started the tedious process of moving all my movies from VHS to DVD, buying the sale and cheap DVD's.
As of a few months ago, I no longer have a VHS player, any VHS movies, or any need for them.
I have all my favorite movies on DVD, and I don't need to replace them if the tape goes bad (Disney, I'm looking at you and some of your crappy-even-though-it's-in-nonstandard-large-boxes tapes).I don't see a big enough difference between upconverted DVD's and Blu-Ray to justify re-buying all my movies again.
As for new movies (I buy a few a year) I just wait until they go on sale.I am not a Netflix user, nor have I rented a movie in years for three reasons: Amazon, Borrowing from Friends or Bargain Bins.Why rent a movie for $3 from Blockbuster, when you can buy the same movie for $5 from Target?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29893393</id>
	<title>Netflix instant streaming rate</title>
	<author>assassinator42</author>
	<datestamp>1256667120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does anyone know how much Netflix has to pay to stream a movie or TV show?<br>Is it less than what is made from advertising on OTA TV and Hulu? If not, why isn't more content on Netflix?<br>I'm paying right now, but I'm probably going to cancel as I just don't use it enough. I'm not a big movie person in general. I might reconsider if there were more television content on the service. For example, I watched the first two seasons of Dexter, but some reason they don't have the third season. They apparently had the first episode, but it was taken down after a week or two.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone know how much Netflix has to pay to stream a movie or TV show ? Is it less than what is made from advertising on OTA TV and Hulu ?
If not , why is n't more content on Netflix ? I 'm paying right now , but I 'm probably going to cancel as I just do n't use it enough .
I 'm not a big movie person in general .
I might reconsider if there were more television content on the service .
For example , I watched the first two seasons of Dexter , but some reason they do n't have the third season .
They apparently had the first episode , but it was taken down after a week or two .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone know how much Netflix has to pay to stream a movie or TV show?Is it less than what is made from advertising on OTA TV and Hulu?
If not, why isn't more content on Netflix?I'm paying right now, but I'm probably going to cancel as I just don't use it enough.
I'm not a big movie person in general.
I might reconsider if there were more television content on the service.
For example, I watched the first two seasons of Dexter, but some reason they don't have the third season.
They apparently had the first episode, but it was taken down after a week or two.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889781</id>
	<title>I don't see this working.</title>
	<author>kheldan</author>
	<datestamp>1256640180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>People who want to buy will buy, people who don't will just wait. Ineffective policy is ineffective.</htmltext>
<tokenext>People who want to buy will buy , people who do n't will just wait .
Ineffective policy is ineffective .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People who want to buy will buy, people who don't will just wait.
Ineffective policy is ineffective.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889339</id>
	<title>There's nothing worth buying OR renting lately...</title>
	<author>jddeluxe</author>
	<datestamp>1256638680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I haven't even rented a DVD in months as in the rare event there's something worth seeing I go catch it in a theater; I keep looking at that Redbox kiosk every time I hit the grocery store and there's nothing worth a $1/night....</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't even rented a DVD in months as in the rare event there 's something worth seeing I go catch it in a theater ; I keep looking at that Redbox kiosk every time I hit the grocery store and there 's nothing worth a $ 1/night... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't even rented a DVD in months as in the rare event there's something worth seeing I go catch it in a theater; I keep looking at that Redbox kiosk every time I hit the grocery store and there's nothing worth a $1/night....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889325</id>
	<title>Another Viewpoint</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1256638560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>

A few days ago <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/26/business/media/26stream.html" title="nytimes.com">I happened to read an article from a different viewpoint</a> [nytimes.com] that said:<p><div class="quote"><p>Until very recently, most Hollywood heavyweights were loath to speak too openly about the promise of digital entertainment &mdash; the downloading and streaming of movies and television shows on computers, Internet-enabled televisions and mobile devices. Nobody wanted to anger retail partners like Wal-Mart or do anything that might slow the DVD gravy train.</p></div><p>followed up with</p><p><div class="quote"><p>A variety of factors have influenced Hollywood&rsquo;s new aggression on the digital front. This year, Wal-Mart and other big-box retailers started cutting the amount of shelf space they devote to DVDs, and some other retail partners, like Circuit City, have gone out of business. So movie studios now worry less about angering them by pulling digital levers.</p></div><p>The article actually highlights some moves that Disney (I know, I was shocked as well) has made to improve digital ownership for the consumer.  And there are going to be a lot of failures (Disney already tried Moviebeam) but it's probably pretty clear that this is the future past Blu-ray.  <br> <br>

The film studios' reasons for falling sales?  First it was piracy.  Now that that's been reigned in it must be rentals, Netflix and Redbox.  And once that tapers off and the DVD gravy train doesn't kick back up it'll be some other bullshit.  Never will it be the fact that 99\% of movie trailers I see today I don't care for and 99\% of the ones I watch have little to no replay value.  Never will it be the declining quality of the product.  Never will it be the fact that I have bought this movie in three other formats goddammit--why do I need to pay for blu-ray?  Never will it be the fact that buying it on blu-ray allows me to play it on only one device in my house when I have many more capable of playing movies.  <br> <br>

Go ahead, pin the blame on someone else.  I don't care.  But you won't fix the problem until you look at <b>all</b> the contributing factors.  It is ignorance to think it is just one of these.  Die a slow painful death, I just hope my children don't have to put with you acting like children.</p></div>
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<tokenext>A few days ago I happened to read an article from a different viewpoint [ nytimes.com ] that said : Until very recently , most Hollywood heavyweights were loath to speak too openly about the promise of digital entertainment    the downloading and streaming of movies and television shows on computers , Internet-enabled televisions and mobile devices .
Nobody wanted to anger retail partners like Wal-Mart or do anything that might slow the DVD gravy train.followed up withA variety of factors have influenced Hollywood    s new aggression on the digital front .
This year , Wal-Mart and other big-box retailers started cutting the amount of shelf space they devote to DVDs , and some other retail partners , like Circuit City , have gone out of business .
So movie studios now worry less about angering them by pulling digital levers.The article actually highlights some moves that Disney ( I know , I was shocked as well ) has made to improve digital ownership for the consumer .
And there are going to be a lot of failures ( Disney already tried Moviebeam ) but it 's probably pretty clear that this is the future past Blu-ray .
The film studios ' reasons for falling sales ?
First it was piracy .
Now that that 's been reigned in it must be rentals , Netflix and Redbox .
And once that tapers off and the DVD gravy train does n't kick back up it 'll be some other bullshit .
Never will it be the fact that 99 \ % of movie trailers I see today I do n't care for and 99 \ % of the ones I watch have little to no replay value .
Never will it be the declining quality of the product .
Never will it be the fact that I have bought this movie in three other formats goddammit--why do I need to pay for blu-ray ?
Never will it be the fact that buying it on blu-ray allows me to play it on only one device in my house when I have many more capable of playing movies .
Go ahead , pin the blame on someone else .
I do n't care .
But you wo n't fix the problem until you look at all the contributing factors .
It is ignorance to think it is just one of these .
Die a slow painful death , I just hope my children do n't have to put with you acting like children .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>

A few days ago I happened to read an article from a different viewpoint [nytimes.com] that said:Until very recently, most Hollywood heavyweights were loath to speak too openly about the promise of digital entertainment — the downloading and streaming of movies and television shows on computers, Internet-enabled televisions and mobile devices.
Nobody wanted to anger retail partners like Wal-Mart or do anything that might slow the DVD gravy train.followed up withA variety of factors have influenced Hollywood’s new aggression on the digital front.
This year, Wal-Mart and other big-box retailers started cutting the amount of shelf space they devote to DVDs, and some other retail partners, like Circuit City, have gone out of business.
So movie studios now worry less about angering them by pulling digital levers.The article actually highlights some moves that Disney (I know, I was shocked as well) has made to improve digital ownership for the consumer.
And there are going to be a lot of failures (Disney already tried Moviebeam) but it's probably pretty clear that this is the future past Blu-ray.
The film studios' reasons for falling sales?
First it was piracy.
Now that that's been reigned in it must be rentals, Netflix and Redbox.
And once that tapers off and the DVD gravy train doesn't kick back up it'll be some other bullshit.
Never will it be the fact that 99\% of movie trailers I see today I don't care for and 99\% of the ones I watch have little to no replay value.
Never will it be the declining quality of the product.
Never will it be the fact that I have bought this movie in three other formats goddammit--why do I need to pay for blu-ray?
Never will it be the fact that buying it on blu-ray allows me to play it on only one device in my house when I have many more capable of playing movies.
Go ahead, pin the blame on someone else.
I don't care.
But you won't fix the problem until you look at all the contributing factors.
It is ignorance to think it is just one of these.
Die a slow painful death, I just hope my children don't have to put with you acting like children.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29895217</id>
	<title>Here's an example</title>
	<author>Jim Hall</author>
	<datestamp>1256733840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>All I really have to say is the obvious: Screwing people only drives them towards piracy. People rent a movie because they don't want to pay $20-30 for something they will only watch once. Doing this won't change that, so if the option goes from "pirate it or rent it for $5" to "pirate it or buy it for $20", do you really think that's gonna help the studios?</p></div><p>Amen to that! Here's my very recent example:</p><p>I didn't see <em>Land of the Lost</em> when it came out in theatres, but decided I'd wait for it to come out on DVD, then rent it. But I don't rent on physical disc anymore - I rent through PSN and iTunes.</p><p>Guess what? Neither of those outlets will rent you the movie. It's purchase only, for like $14 or $15. I know I will only watch this movie one time (the reviews weren't stellar, but I'll watch it anyway) so don't really feel like shelling out $15 for a one-time, 2-hour event. But I'll happily pay $5 (typical) for an online rental.</p><p>I figure some studio dude worked out that the movie sucked so badly, no one will want to buy it. They'll only want to rent it. And maybe they estimate not enough people will rent it. So it's purchase-only.</p><p>I briefly considered grabbing a BT client just to download this movie. Just because I couldn't rent it. But I decided to wait 6 months<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... either they'll put out a late rental option, or the desire to see this movie will go away.</p></div>
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<tokenext>All I really have to say is the obvious : Screwing people only drives them towards piracy .
People rent a movie because they do n't want to pay $ 20-30 for something they will only watch once .
Doing this wo n't change that , so if the option goes from " pirate it or rent it for $ 5 " to " pirate it or buy it for $ 20 " , do you really think that 's gon na help the studios ? Amen to that !
Here 's my very recent example : I did n't see Land of the Lost when it came out in theatres , but decided I 'd wait for it to come out on DVD , then rent it .
But I do n't rent on physical disc anymore - I rent through PSN and iTunes.Guess what ?
Neither of those outlets will rent you the movie .
It 's purchase only , for like $ 14 or $ 15 .
I know I will only watch this movie one time ( the reviews were n't stellar , but I 'll watch it anyway ) so do n't really feel like shelling out $ 15 for a one-time , 2-hour event .
But I 'll happily pay $ 5 ( typical ) for an online rental.I figure some studio dude worked out that the movie sucked so badly , no one will want to buy it .
They 'll only want to rent it .
And maybe they estimate not enough people will rent it .
So it 's purchase-only.I briefly considered grabbing a BT client just to download this movie .
Just because I could n't rent it .
But I decided to wait 6 months ... either they 'll put out a late rental option , or the desire to see this movie will go away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All I really have to say is the obvious: Screwing people only drives them towards piracy.
People rent a movie because they don't want to pay $20-30 for something they will only watch once.
Doing this won't change that, so if the option goes from "pirate it or rent it for $5" to "pirate it or buy it for $20", do you really think that's gonna help the studios?Amen to that!
Here's my very recent example:I didn't see Land of the Lost when it came out in theatres, but decided I'd wait for it to come out on DVD, then rent it.
But I don't rent on physical disc anymore - I rent through PSN and iTunes.Guess what?
Neither of those outlets will rent you the movie.
It's purchase only, for like $14 or $15.
I know I will only watch this movie one time (the reviews weren't stellar, but I'll watch it anyway) so don't really feel like shelling out $15 for a one-time, 2-hour event.
But I'll happily pay $5 (typical) for an online rental.I figure some studio dude worked out that the movie sucked so badly, no one will want to buy it.
They'll only want to rent it.
And maybe they estimate not enough people will rent it.
So it's purchase-only.I briefly considered grabbing a BT client just to download this movie.
Just because I couldn't rent it.
But I decided to wait 6 months ... either they'll put out a late rental option, or the desire to see this movie will go away.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889579</id>
	<title>Blockbuster+Netflix != only game in town</title>
	<author>pwizard2</author>
	<datestamp>1256639520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What are they going to do about all the little independent video stores? Those places often do good business b/c they have a pretty good inventory and cost way less than blockbuster.</p><p>If I owned a little store I would tell the studios to kiss my ass after I was able to stop laughing at them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What are they going to do about all the little independent video stores ?
Those places often do good business b/c they have a pretty good inventory and cost way less than blockbuster.If I owned a little store I would tell the studios to kiss my ass after I was able to stop laughing at them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are they going to do about all the little independent video stores?
Those places often do good business b/c they have a pretty good inventory and cost way less than blockbuster.If I owned a little store I would tell the studios to kiss my ass after I was able to stop laughing at them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29893807</id>
	<title>Re:Collusion</title>
	<author>MemoryDragon</author>
	<datestamp>1256672340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Never will happen, politics is too afraid of the media cartels, why do you think they get laws passed down our throats on a worldwide scale (well lets say US - Western European scale) while the industry is comparatively small compared to others which are hurt by the law (and the general public which has only limited saying in affairs nowadays anyway)</p><p>Sorry to say that but owning most newspapers and tv they have a free ride on anything what they do, the politicians simply need them way too much to really hit them hard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Never will happen , politics is too afraid of the media cartels , why do you think they get laws passed down our throats on a worldwide scale ( well lets say US - Western European scale ) while the industry is comparatively small compared to others which are hurt by the law ( and the general public which has only limited saying in affairs nowadays anyway ) Sorry to say that but owning most newspapers and tv they have a free ride on anything what they do , the politicians simply need them way too much to really hit them hard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Never will happen, politics is too afraid of the media cartels, why do you think they get laws passed down our throats on a worldwide scale (well lets say US - Western European scale) while the industry is comparatively small compared to others which are hurt by the law (and the general public which has only limited saying in affairs nowadays anyway)Sorry to say that but owning most newspapers and tv they have a free ride on anything what they do, the politicians simply need them way too much to really hit them hard.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890231</id>
	<title>Re:Increase profits for everyone...</title>
	<author>node 3</author>
	<datestamp>1256642100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>straw men are used by the irrelevant to stop people from demanding what they are due</p></div><p>Aside from the fact that your sig, taken on the whole, is rather nonsensical, it's somewhat ironic that you bring up the straw men of communism and socialism.</p><p>All I did was criticize capitalism for having encouraged such a blatantly anti-consumer scheme. That doesn't mean I want to do away with capitalism, or move to communism or socialism (and, a clue, socialism *is* an economics system, or more accurately, the three -isms you've mentioned have both political and economic aspects to them).</p><p>But your main mistake is in thinking those systems are somehow mutually exclusive and can actually exist. Our military is communism (the military economy is highly centralized), our roads, schools, police forces, etc, are socialism (paid for by the taxpayers, and overseen by local authorities (although there's a trend towards fascism in this are, which is moving the execution of such services over to corporations).</p><p>As for capitalism, it's *always* tempered by regulation, centralization and socialization.</p><p>No state on the planet has been run exclusively under any of those three systems, and nowhere on the planet *will* there ever be such a state, because such a thing is impossible.</p></div>
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<tokenext>straw men are used by the irrelevant to stop people from demanding what they are dueAside from the fact that your sig , taken on the whole , is rather nonsensical , it 's somewhat ironic that you bring up the straw men of communism and socialism.All I did was criticize capitalism for having encouraged such a blatantly anti-consumer scheme .
That does n't mean I want to do away with capitalism , or move to communism or socialism ( and , a clue , socialism * is * an economics system , or more accurately , the three -isms you 've mentioned have both political and economic aspects to them ) .But your main mistake is in thinking those systems are somehow mutually exclusive and can actually exist .
Our military is communism ( the military economy is highly centralized ) , our roads , schools , police forces , etc , are socialism ( paid for by the taxpayers , and overseen by local authorities ( although there 's a trend towards fascism in this are , which is moving the execution of such services over to corporations ) .As for capitalism , it 's * always * tempered by regulation , centralization and socialization.No state on the planet has been run exclusively under any of those three systems , and nowhere on the planet * will * there ever be such a state , because such a thing is impossible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>straw men are used by the irrelevant to stop people from demanding what they are dueAside from the fact that your sig, taken on the whole, is rather nonsensical, it's somewhat ironic that you bring up the straw men of communism and socialism.All I did was criticize capitalism for having encouraged such a blatantly anti-consumer scheme.
That doesn't mean I want to do away with capitalism, or move to communism or socialism (and, a clue, socialism *is* an economics system, or more accurately, the three -isms you've mentioned have both political and economic aspects to them).But your main mistake is in thinking those systems are somehow mutually exclusive and can actually exist.
Our military is communism (the military economy is highly centralized), our roads, schools, police forces, etc, are socialism (paid for by the taxpayers, and overseen by local authorities (although there's a trend towards fascism in this are, which is moving the execution of such services over to corporations).As for capitalism, it's *always* tempered by regulation, centralization and socialization.No state on the planet has been run exclusively under any of those three systems, and nowhere on the planet *will* there ever be such a state, because such a thing is impossible.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29895213</id>
	<title>Re:I used to buy DVDs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256733840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... The canned response I received back basically told me I was SOL and to go buy another DVD at full cost. Have a nice day.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..."</p><p>You should have written them back, something like:</p><p>' Thanks for the response to my consumer complaint about defective merchandise, where you suggested that I fuck off.</p><p>I would like you to know I have taken your advice, and fucked off. No more movie revenue for you, from me. I feel silly for not thinking of that solution myself; your help has been invaluable.</p><p>Thanks again.'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" ... The canned response I received back basically told me I was SOL and to go buy another DVD at full cost .
Have a nice day .
... " You should have written them back , something like : ' Thanks for the response to my consumer complaint about defective merchandise , where you suggested that I fuck off.I would like you to know I have taken your advice , and fucked off .
No more movie revenue for you , from me .
I feel silly for not thinking of that solution myself ; your help has been invaluable.Thanks again .
'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>" ... The canned response I received back basically told me I was SOL and to go buy another DVD at full cost.
Have a nice day.
..."You should have written them back, something like:' Thanks for the response to my consumer complaint about defective merchandise, where you suggested that I fuck off.I would like you to know I have taken your advice, and fucked off.
No more movie revenue for you, from me.
I feel silly for not thinking of that solution myself; your help has been invaluable.Thanks again.
'</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29893013</id>
	<title>Do people buy movies without seeing them first?</title>
	<author>mrdtr</author>
	<datestamp>1256661540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would not buy a dvd of a movie without seeing it first in a theatre, or renting it, and saying that, there are few movies that I would actually want to own.<br>Actually I'm quite content waiting for most movies to come on TV movie channels</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would not buy a dvd of a movie without seeing it first in a theatre , or renting it , and saying that , there are few movies that I would actually want to own.Actually I 'm quite content waiting for most movies to come on TV movie channels</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would not buy a dvd of a movie without seeing it first in a theatre, or renting it, and saying that, there are few movies that I would actually want to own.Actually I'm quite content waiting for most movies to come on TV movie channels</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891253</id>
	<title>Re:I used to buy DVDs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256647080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Surprisingly, <a href="http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/dvdsupport/faq.html#common0" title="go.com">Disney is rather decent in this area.</a> [go.com] </p><p><div class="quote"><p>If you accidentally damage or break one of your Disney DVDs, you can get a replacement disc for a nominal charge of $6.95.</p></div></div>
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<tokenext>Surprisingly , Disney is rather decent in this area .
[ go.com ] If you accidentally damage or break one of your Disney DVDs , you can get a replacement disc for a nominal charge of $ 6.95 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surprisingly, Disney is rather decent in this area.
[go.com] If you accidentally damage or break one of your Disney DVDs, you can get a replacement disc for a nominal charge of $6.95.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890141</id>
	<title>Re:Will anyone care?</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1256641680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes many people do.</p><p>"Hollywood is putting out utter drivel"<br>that's a matter of opinion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes many people do .
" Hollywood is putting out utter drivel " that 's a matter of opinion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes many people do.
"Hollywood is putting out utter drivel"that's a matter of opinion.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29893437</id>
	<title>on the street corner</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256667720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I live in Beirut, where anyone can easily go to their bus stop, almost any street corner, DVD/music shop, or street vendor in certain areas any buy almost any movie available, even those in theaters, for around $1-$2 USD. On occasion you may find a disc that doesn't work or wasn't burned properly but over all I've haven't experienced any problems going this route. In Lebanon you have an increase in foreign goods due to taxes, VAT, import duties, ets so the market for copied movies and music is quite high.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in Beirut , where anyone can easily go to their bus stop , almost any street corner , DVD/music shop , or street vendor in certain areas any buy almost any movie available , even those in theaters , for around $ 1- $ 2 USD .
On occasion you may find a disc that does n't work or was n't burned properly but over all I 've have n't experienced any problems going this route .
In Lebanon you have an increase in foreign goods due to taxes , VAT , import duties , ets so the market for copied movies and music is quite high .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in Beirut, where anyone can easily go to their bus stop, almost any street corner, DVD/music shop, or street vendor in certain areas any buy almost any movie available, even those in theaters, for around $1-$2 USD.
On occasion you may find a disc that doesn't work or wasn't burned properly but over all I've haven't experienced any problems going this route.
In Lebanon you have an increase in foreign goods due to taxes, VAT, import duties, ets so the market for copied movies and music is quite high.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891661</id>
	<title>Mommy, I wanna watch Sin-duh-weh-wuh</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1256649420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How many DVDs do you really watch 15+ times that makes buying it worthwhile?</p></div><p>Does this include single-digit-year-olds who watch Disney's <i>Cinderella</i> or preteens who watch <i>High School Musical</i> for the umpteenth time? How about grown-ups who watch things like <i>Rocky Horror Picture Show</i>?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How many DVDs do you really watch 15 + times that makes buying it worthwhile ? Does this include single-digit-year-olds who watch Disney 's Cinderella or preteens who watch High School Musical for the umpteenth time ?
How about grown-ups who watch things like Rocky Horror Picture Show ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many DVDs do you really watch 15+ times that makes buying it worthwhile?Does this include single-digit-year-olds who watch Disney's Cinderella or preteens who watch High School Musical for the umpteenth time?
How about grown-ups who watch things like Rocky Horror Picture Show?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889529</id>
	<title>Right &amp; Wrong</title>
	<author>ChefInnocent</author>
	<datestamp>1256639340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>They've almost got it pegged, I've stopped buying DVDs because I can rent them from RedBox.  I watch most movies about once and then they sit on my shelf for a very long time before I watch them again, if ever.  So, I now only buy movies I think I'll watch multiple times.  RedBox has saved me from many bad purchases.  RedBox is different than Hollywood Video in that I pay a buck versus 5 bucks.  If I rent a movie for $1, if I decide that I later want to buy it, I don't feel like I've overpaid for my watching experience.  That is to say, 16/15 is not a bad ratio of overpayment.  If I rent a move for $5 and later decide to buy it, I feel like I over spent (20/15 somehow crosses my threshold).  So, they have it right that RedBox is cutting into their sales, but only of crappy movies which covers 2/3's (depending on who you are, this number fluctuates wildly).<br> <br>
What they don't understand is that if it takes a month longer to get to RedBox, I'm just going to wait another month before I "preview" the movie.  Before RedBox, I would often wait for a film of suspect quality to reach the $5 bin before watching it.  Now with RedBox, most movies will reach the $5 bin before I buy it making the ratios more like 6/5.<br> <br>
So the executives at the Film Studios can think a month delay will help their sales, but it's more likely to drive people to torrents.  I think in the long run, nothing is going to make them happy.  Consumers want the feeling of value, and RedBox offers that.  I can rent from them all I want for a buck a pop and not feel guilty about copyright infringement.  If they do stupid things to take away my feeling of value, then I'm just going to sense greed and have no compunctions against "piracy".</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 've almost got it pegged , I 've stopped buying DVDs because I can rent them from RedBox .
I watch most movies about once and then they sit on my shelf for a very long time before I watch them again , if ever .
So , I now only buy movies I think I 'll watch multiple times .
RedBox has saved me from many bad purchases .
RedBox is different than Hollywood Video in that I pay a buck versus 5 bucks .
If I rent a movie for $ 1 , if I decide that I later want to buy it , I do n't feel like I 've overpaid for my watching experience .
That is to say , 16/15 is not a bad ratio of overpayment .
If I rent a move for $ 5 and later decide to buy it , I feel like I over spent ( 20/15 somehow crosses my threshold ) .
So , they have it right that RedBox is cutting into their sales , but only of crappy movies which covers 2/3 's ( depending on who you are , this number fluctuates wildly ) .
What they do n't understand is that if it takes a month longer to get to RedBox , I 'm just going to wait another month before I " preview " the movie .
Before RedBox , I would often wait for a film of suspect quality to reach the $ 5 bin before watching it .
Now with RedBox , most movies will reach the $ 5 bin before I buy it making the ratios more like 6/5 .
So the executives at the Film Studios can think a month delay will help their sales , but it 's more likely to drive people to torrents .
I think in the long run , nothing is going to make them happy .
Consumers want the feeling of value , and RedBox offers that .
I can rent from them all I want for a buck a pop and not feel guilty about copyright infringement .
If they do stupid things to take away my feeling of value , then I 'm just going to sense greed and have no compunctions against " piracy " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They've almost got it pegged, I've stopped buying DVDs because I can rent them from RedBox.
I watch most movies about once and then they sit on my shelf for a very long time before I watch them again, if ever.
So, I now only buy movies I think I'll watch multiple times.
RedBox has saved me from many bad purchases.
RedBox is different than Hollywood Video in that I pay a buck versus 5 bucks.
If I rent a movie for $1, if I decide that I later want to buy it, I don't feel like I've overpaid for my watching experience.
That is to say, 16/15 is not a bad ratio of overpayment.
If I rent a move for $5 and later decide to buy it, I feel like I over spent (20/15 somehow crosses my threshold).
So, they have it right that RedBox is cutting into their sales, but only of crappy movies which covers 2/3's (depending on who you are, this number fluctuates wildly).
What they don't understand is that if it takes a month longer to get to RedBox, I'm just going to wait another month before I "preview" the movie.
Before RedBox, I would often wait for a film of suspect quality to reach the $5 bin before watching it.
Now with RedBox, most movies will reach the $5 bin before I buy it making the ratios more like 6/5.
So the executives at the Film Studios can think a month delay will help their sales, but it's more likely to drive people to torrents.
I think in the long run, nothing is going to make them happy.
Consumers want the feeling of value, and RedBox offers that.
I can rent from them all I want for a buck a pop and not feel guilty about copyright infringement.
If they do stupid things to take away my feeling of value, then I'm just going to sense greed and have no compunctions against "piracy".</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889677</id>
	<title>Actually, you can't rent out software or CDs</title>
	<author>langelgjm</author>
	<datestamp>1256639820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What legal principle prevents me from loaning out, selling, or renting any (physical) CD/DVD/Book that I have purchased?</p></div><p> <a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/usc\_sec\_17\_00000109----000-.html" title="cornell.edu">17 USC 109.</a> [cornell.edu] Granted, that only prohibits the rental of software and sound recordings, however, people should be aware that "first sale" does not apply to all copyrighted materials equally. Special exemptions like these make it illegal for you to rent out copies of software or CDs, even if you own them (unless you get authorization from the copyright holder).</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Do these companies seriously have to buy special versions that they rent out?</p></div><p>I forget how this works exactly, but IIRC rental stores typically buy special "rental" copies that are much more expensive than retail copies.</p></div>
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<tokenext>What legal principle prevents me from loaning out , selling , or renting any ( physical ) CD/DVD/Book that I have purchased ?
17 USC 109 .
[ cornell.edu ] Granted , that only prohibits the rental of software and sound recordings , however , people should be aware that " first sale " does not apply to all copyrighted materials equally .
Special exemptions like these make it illegal for you to rent out copies of software or CDs , even if you own them ( unless you get authorization from the copyright holder ) .Do these companies seriously have to buy special versions that they rent out ? I forget how this works exactly , but IIRC rental stores typically buy special " rental " copies that are much more expensive than retail copies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What legal principle prevents me from loaning out, selling, or renting any (physical) CD/DVD/Book that I have purchased?
17 USC 109.
[cornell.edu] Granted, that only prohibits the rental of software and sound recordings, however, people should be aware that "first sale" does not apply to all copyrighted materials equally.
Special exemptions like these make it illegal for you to rent out copies of software or CDs, even if you own them (unless you get authorization from the copyright holder).Do these companies seriously have to buy special versions that they rent out?I forget how this works exactly, but IIRC rental stores typically buy special "rental" copies that are much more expensive than retail copies.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29891047</id>
	<title>Re:First sale doctrine?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256645820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Wasn't this settled in the 1980's Betamax Supreme Court judgment? I thought that movie rental shops had the right of first sale and don't need approval from studios to rent movies, or am I missing something here?</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
You're right that it is settled, but wrong that this is the case where it was.  The Betamax case was about (a) the right to sell products that have significant legitimate uses, even if they also are capable of infringing uses, (b) elaboration on Fair Use, and (c) the identification of one such Fair Use, namely timeshifting.  (Once they had that, they didn't need to identify any others to determine that the Betamax VCR was legal.)

I believe cases regarding First Sale go at least as far back as the early 1900s and attempts to restrict the resale of (books? phonorecords?).  And the First Sale doctrine is the only reason there ever was a VHS tape rental business.  All Hollywood could do in response to "if you buy it, it's yours" was to jack the prices of VHS movies WAY up (to $90 or $100 or more) to gouge the rental shops, knowing the rental shops would probably be able to afford the fees.  "Price to sell at retail" only emerged late in the VHS era.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Was n't this settled in the 1980 's Betamax Supreme Court judgment ?
I thought that movie rental shops had the right of first sale and do n't need approval from studios to rent movies , or am I missing something here ?
You 're right that it is settled , but wrong that this is the case where it was .
The Betamax case was about ( a ) the right to sell products that have significant legitimate uses , even if they also are capable of infringing uses , ( b ) elaboration on Fair Use , and ( c ) the identification of one such Fair Use , namely timeshifting .
( Once they had that , they did n't need to identify any others to determine that the Betamax VCR was legal .
) I believe cases regarding First Sale go at least as far back as the early 1900s and attempts to restrict the resale of ( books ?
phonorecords ? ) . And the First Sale doctrine is the only reason there ever was a VHS tape rental business .
All Hollywood could do in response to " if you buy it , it 's yours " was to jack the prices of VHS movies WAY up ( to $ 90 or $ 100 or more ) to gouge the rental shops , knowing the rental shops would probably be able to afford the fees .
" Price to sell at retail " only emerged late in the VHS era .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wasn't this settled in the 1980's Betamax Supreme Court judgment?
I thought that movie rental shops had the right of first sale and don't need approval from studios to rent movies, or am I missing something here?
You're right that it is settled, but wrong that this is the case where it was.
The Betamax case was about (a) the right to sell products that have significant legitimate uses, even if they also are capable of infringing uses, (b) elaboration on Fair Use, and (c) the identification of one such Fair Use, namely timeshifting.
(Once they had that, they didn't need to identify any others to determine that the Betamax VCR was legal.
)

I believe cases regarding First Sale go at least as far back as the early 1900s and attempts to restrict the resale of (books?
phonorecords?).  And the First Sale doctrine is the only reason there ever was a VHS tape rental business.
All Hollywood could do in response to "if you buy it, it's yours" was to jack the prices of VHS movies WAY up (to $90 or $100 or more) to gouge the rental shops, knowing the rental shops would probably be able to afford the fees.
"Price to sell at retail" only emerged late in the VHS era.
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	<title>Re:I never bought DVDs anyway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256642340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>(I like being mobile in my living situation and that means desiring less shit to move)</p></div><p>Okay, small bit of advice.  I can only imagine I'm in a similar sort of situation you are, in that I would like to, as you put it, remain a bit mobile in my living.  In my case, it's because of my strong, nay, overwhelming desire to <b>get the living fuck out of Kentucky &mdash; <i>KENTUCKY</i>, of all places! &mdash; and never look back at this horse farming technological and cultural backwater even once</b>, and I can easily imagine similar situations for you.</p><p>But, I have to say, the way you phrased it made me think your post most likely would have ended with "Now I've gotta go, the sp00ks are closing in on me again", possibly with a forced reference to living off the grid or something.  Perhaps some revising may be in order next time.</p></div>
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<tokenext>( I like being mobile in my living situation and that means desiring less shit to move ) Okay , small bit of advice .
I can only imagine I 'm in a similar sort of situation you are , in that I would like to , as you put it , remain a bit mobile in my living .
In my case , it 's because of my strong , nay , overwhelming desire to get the living fuck out of Kentucky    KENTUCKY , of all places !
   and never look back at this horse farming technological and cultural backwater even once , and I can easily imagine similar situations for you.But , I have to say , the way you phrased it made me think your post most likely would have ended with " Now I 've got ta go , the sp00ks are closing in on me again " , possibly with a forced reference to living off the grid or something .
Perhaps some revising may be in order next time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(I like being mobile in my living situation and that means desiring less shit to move)Okay, small bit of advice.
I can only imagine I'm in a similar sort of situation you are, in that I would like to, as you put it, remain a bit mobile in my living.
In my case, it's because of my strong, nay, overwhelming desire to get the living fuck out of Kentucky — KENTUCKY, of all places!
— and never look back at this horse farming technological and cultural backwater even once, and I can easily imagine similar situations for you.But, I have to say, the way you phrased it made me think your post most likely would have ended with "Now I've gotta go, the sp00ks are closing in on me again", possibly with a forced reference to living off the grid or something.
Perhaps some revising may be in order next time.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29890307</id>
	<title>Seriously....how is this supposed to help them?</title>
	<author>sabernet</author>
	<datestamp>1256642340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>All they're doing is giving yet another justification for people who'll simply download them from torrent sites.
<br>
"Hey, while you're waiting for that rental, I watched it last week!  On my phone!  And my PS3!  And my laptop!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>All they 're doing is giving yet another justification for people who 'll simply download them from torrent sites .
" Hey , while you 're waiting for that rental , I watched it last week !
On my phone !
And my PS3 !
And my laptop !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All they're doing is giving yet another justification for people who'll simply download them from torrent sites.
"Hey, while you're waiting for that rental, I watched it last week!
On my phone!
And my PS3!
And my laptop!
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29889353</id>
	<title>Redbox buying DVDs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256638680000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>My brother in law works for redbox, and sure enough, every time a new major film is released to DVD, he goes to every walmart in his area (and we're not talking just one county here) and purchases anywhere from several hundred to a couple thousand copies, starting at midnight.  He then takes them home and one by one puts them into non studio-branded cases, then goes out and stocks the redbox machines he manages.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My brother in law works for redbox , and sure enough , every time a new major film is released to DVD , he goes to every walmart in his area ( and we 're not talking just one county here ) and purchases anywhere from several hundred to a couple thousand copies , starting at midnight .
He then takes them home and one by one puts them into non studio-branded cases , then goes out and stocks the redbox machines he manages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My brother in law works for redbox, and sure enough, every time a new major film is released to DVD, he goes to every walmart in his area (and we're not talking just one county here) and purchases anywhere from several hundred to a couple thousand copies, starting at midnight.
He then takes them home and one by one puts them into non studio-branded cases, then goes out and stocks the redbox machines he manages.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_1959259.29894369</id>
	<title>PirateBay</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256723460000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>If the industry is going to act like that. I will just download their movies and neither rent or buy.<br>And i will advocate and help and distribute these pirated movies.<br>Old man behind the desk, stop being greedy or we will just help make this world socialist even quicker.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the industry is going to act like that .
I will just download their movies and neither rent or buy.And i will advocate and help and distribute these pirated movies.Old man behind the desk , stop being greedy or we will just help make this world socialist even quicker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the industry is going to act like that.
I will just download their movies and neither rent or buy.And i will advocate and help and distribute these pirated movies.Old man behind the desk, stop being greedy or we will just help make this world socialist even quicker.</sentencetext>
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