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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_27_0349239</id>
	<title>Asus Releases Desktop-Sized Supercomputer</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1256667120000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/" rel="nofollow">angry tapir</a> writes <i>"Asustek has unveiled its first supercomputer, <a href="http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/article/323713">the desktop computer-sized ESC 1000</a>, which uses Nvidia graphics processors to attain speeds up to 1.1 teraflops. Asus's ESC 1000 comes with a 3.33GHz Intel LGA1366 Xeon W3580 microprocessor designed for servers, along with 960 graphics processing cores from Nvidia inside three Tesla c1060 Computing Processors and one Quadro FX5800."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>angry tapir writes " Asustek has unveiled its first supercomputer , the desktop computer-sized ESC 1000 , which uses Nvidia graphics processors to attain speeds up to 1.1 teraflops .
Asus 's ESC 1000 comes with a 3.33GHz Intel LGA1366 Xeon W3580 microprocessor designed for servers , along with 960 graphics processing cores from Nvidia inside three Tesla c1060 Computing Processors and one Quadro FX5800 .
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<sentencetext>angry tapir writes "Asustek has unveiled its first supercomputer, the desktop computer-sized ESC 1000, which uses Nvidia graphics processors to attain speeds up to 1.1 teraflops.
Asus's ESC 1000 comes with a 3.33GHz Intel LGA1366 Xeon W3580 microprocessor designed for servers, along with 960 graphics processing cores from Nvidia inside three Tesla c1060 Computing Processors and one Quadro FX5800.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29884435</id>
	<title>Re:Super computer?</title>
	<author>CompMD</author>
	<datestamp>1256661180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Now its impressive that this desktop system has 1/37th of the power of the lowest machine on the super computer list... but does that really make it a super computer?"</p><p>Just imagine a beowulf cluster of them!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Now its impressive that this desktop system has 1/37th of the power of the lowest machine on the super computer list... but does that really make it a super computer ?
" Just imagine a beowulf cluster of them !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Now its impressive that this desktop system has 1/37th of the power of the lowest machine on the super computer list... but does that really make it a super computer?
"Just imagine a beowulf cluster of them!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881605</id>
	<title>How about non Floating Point performance ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256636100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>San somebody who has actually worked with such machines enlighten me about its performance on tasks that are not floating point intensive? Our simulations mainly push many,many objects around, with relatively little, or no floating point math in them.</p><p>Do such machines still make sense, or are we better off with a bunch of general purpose CPUs clustered together? How do they compare to Suns Niagara cpus that have umpteen hardware threads in them ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>San somebody who has actually worked with such machines enlighten me about its performance on tasks that are not floating point intensive ?
Our simulations mainly push many,many objects around , with relatively little , or no floating point math in them.Do such machines still make sense , or are we better off with a bunch of general purpose CPUs clustered together ?
How do they compare to Suns Niagara cpus that have umpteen hardware threads in them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>San somebody who has actually worked with such machines enlighten me about its performance on tasks that are not floating point intensive?
Our simulations mainly push many,many objects around, with relatively little, or no floating point math in them.Do such machines still make sense, or are we better off with a bunch of general purpose CPUs clustered together?
How do they compare to Suns Niagara cpus that have umpteen hardware threads in them ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29886341</id>
	<title>Am I missing something?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256669700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, if 1.1 the theoretical max tflops on this thing, and assuming we're talking about double precision operations.. wouldn't 2 radeon hd 5870s match it? In theory, at least.</p><p>From HD5870 specs:<br># Processing power (single precision): 2.72 TeraFLOPS<br># Processing power (double precision): 544 GigaFLOPS</p><p>Now, whether or not you can use all that power through GPGPU may be a different story.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , if 1.1 the theoretical max tflops on this thing , and assuming we 're talking about double precision operations.. would n't 2 radeon hd 5870s match it ?
In theory , at least.From HD5870 specs : # Processing power ( single precision ) : 2.72 TeraFLOPS # Processing power ( double precision ) : 544 GigaFLOPSNow , whether or not you can use all that power through GPGPU may be a different story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, if 1.1 the theoretical max tflops on this thing, and assuming we're talking about double precision operations.. wouldn't 2 radeon hd 5870s match it?
In theory, at least.From HD5870 specs:# Processing power (single precision): 2.72 TeraFLOPS# Processing power (double precision): 544 GigaFLOPSNow, whether or not you can use all that power through GPGPU may be a different story.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29884239</id>
	<title>Imagine</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256660280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Imagine a beowulf cluster of.. oh wait</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine a beowulf cluster of.. oh wait</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine a beowulf cluster of.. oh wait</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29884039</id>
	<title>Just enough for Windows</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256659380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>960 graphics processing cores</i> So basically, it meets the hardware requirements for Vista, even with Aero enabled!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>960 graphics processing cores So basically , it meets the hardware requirements for Vista , even with Aero enabled !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>960 graphics processing cores So basically, it meets the hardware requirements for Vista, even with Aero enabled!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881157</id>
	<title>No point running desktop Windows on this monster..</title>
	<author>jkrise</author>
	<datestamp>1256584980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This grade of machines need Linux on them... not Windows; and Asus has been in bed with MS for some while now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This grade of machines need Linux on them... not Windows ; and Asus has been in bed with MS for some while now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This grade of machines need Linux on them... not Windows; and Asus has been in bed with MS for some while now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881479</id>
	<title>Re:Super computer?</title>
	<author>textstring</author>
	<datestamp>1256677140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So in other words its 10 years behind the performance of the current 500th best super computer.</p></div><p>If the top500 list is really a good indicator, this system would have definitely made the 2004/06 list and maybe the 2004/11. You can basically build a 5 year old top 500 supercomputer today for $15k. It would have been top 10 in 1999/06. So it's 10 years from top 10 supercomputer to a personal, desktop "super"-computer but it'll probably take even less time for today's fastest machines to become affordable.</p><p>Also remember this is your <i>personal</i> supercomputer. It's working on your jobs 24/7. And really, 1/40th of current "super"-computer speeds for HPC testing, development and even actual relevant work really isn't that bad. You could get some serious work done of one of these boxes (or any generic box like it).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So in other words its 10 years behind the performance of the current 500th best super computer.If the top500 list is really a good indicator , this system would have definitely made the 2004/06 list and maybe the 2004/11 .
You can basically build a 5 year old top 500 supercomputer today for $ 15k .
It would have been top 10 in 1999/06 .
So it 's 10 years from top 10 supercomputer to a personal , desktop " super " -computer but it 'll probably take even less time for today 's fastest machines to become affordable.Also remember this is your personal supercomputer .
It 's working on your jobs 24/7 .
And really , 1/40th of current " super " -computer speeds for HPC testing , development and even actual relevant work really is n't that bad .
You could get some serious work done of one of these boxes ( or any generic box like it ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So in other words its 10 years behind the performance of the current 500th best super computer.If the top500 list is really a good indicator, this system would have definitely made the 2004/06 list and maybe the 2004/11.
You can basically build a 5 year old top 500 supercomputer today for $15k.
It would have been top 10 in 1999/06.
So it's 10 years from top 10 supercomputer to a personal, desktop "super"-computer but it'll probably take even less time for today's fastest machines to become affordable.Also remember this is your personal supercomputer.
It's working on your jobs 24/7.
And really, 1/40th of current "super"-computer speeds for HPC testing, development and even actual relevant work really isn't that bad.
You could get some serious work done of one of these boxes (or any generic box like it).
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881351</id>
	<title>Re:Super computer?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256674620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seconded. Also it appears to have only 24 GByte of RAM, a miniscule amount for modern HPC. A machine I know well that fairly recently dropped out the top 500 has over 3 TBytes, and was considered memory starved.</p><p>That said, to be fair, that may not be an issue. GPUs at present are a niche market, and the impression I have is that applications that run well on them tend not to be memory intensive - but I'm no expert here so I could well be wrong. Whatever, a general purpose "supercomputer" it is not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seconded .
Also it appears to have only 24 GByte of RAM , a miniscule amount for modern HPC .
A machine I know well that fairly recently dropped out the top 500 has over 3 TBytes , and was considered memory starved.That said , to be fair , that may not be an issue .
GPUs at present are a niche market , and the impression I have is that applications that run well on them tend not to be memory intensive - but I 'm no expert here so I could well be wrong .
Whatever , a general purpose " supercomputer " it is not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seconded.
Also it appears to have only 24 GByte of RAM, a miniscule amount for modern HPC.
A machine I know well that fairly recently dropped out the top 500 has over 3 TBytes, and was considered memory starved.That said, to be fair, that may not be an issue.
GPUs at present are a niche market, and the impression I have is that applications that run well on them tend not to be memory intensive - but I'm no expert here so I could well be wrong.
Whatever, a general purpose "supercomputer" it is not.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881133</id>
	<title>wow</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256584560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and it's much cheaper and more effective than just using multiple multi-core processors. parallel computing is the future. how long before we have three dimensional processors?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and it 's much cheaper and more effective than just using multiple multi-core processors .
parallel computing is the future .
how long before we have three dimensional processors ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and it's much cheaper and more effective than just using multiple multi-core processors.
parallel computing is the future.
how long before we have three dimensional processors?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882289</id>
	<title>Re:Index?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256648880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it only has a single sata2 hard drive.<br>its not as hardcore as it could be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it only has a single sata2 hard drive.its not as hardcore as it could be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it only has a single sata2 hard drive.its not as hardcore as it could be.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29912219</id>
	<title>Not comparable.</title>
	<author>Junta</author>
	<datestamp>1256838000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It doesn't say the precision of the flops.  Unless things have recently changed, the outlandish flops spec of GPU derived compute platforms have all been 32-bit precision, whilst the TOP500 score is explicitly 64-bit precision.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOPS" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOPS</a> [wikipedia.org] </p><p><div class="quote"><p>nVidia's Tesla C1060 GPU computing card performs around 933 GFLOPS in single precision calculations</p></div><p>the same Nvidia Tesla C1060 capable of 78 GFLOPS in double precision </p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't say the precision of the flops .
Unless things have recently changed , the outlandish flops spec of GPU derived compute platforms have all been 32-bit precision , whilst the TOP500 score is explicitly 64-bit precision.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOPS [ wikipedia.org ] nVidia 's Tesla C1060 GPU computing card performs around 933 GFLOPS in single precision calculationsthe same Nvidia Tesla C1060 capable of 78 GFLOPS in double precision</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't say the precision of the flops.
Unless things have recently changed, the outlandish flops spec of GPU derived compute platforms have all been 32-bit precision, whilst the TOP500 score is explicitly 64-bit precision.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOPS [wikipedia.org] nVidia's Tesla C1060 GPU computing card performs around 933 GFLOPS in single precision calculationsthe same Nvidia Tesla C1060 capable of 78 GFLOPS in double precision 
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29884817</id>
	<title>Obligatory</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1256662800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does it run Windows? I really need my solitare. How fast does it start office? Does it have those cool lights in the fans? These are the important questions we need answered.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it run Windows ?
I really need my solitare .
How fast does it start office ?
Does it have those cool lights in the fans ?
These are the important questions we need answered .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it run Windows?
I really need my solitare.
How fast does it start office?
Does it have those cool lights in the fans?
These are the important questions we need answered.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882415</id>
	<title>Other with the same GPUs are here</title>
	<author>Skapare</author>
	<datestamp>1256650260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and have up to four teraflops<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... <a href="http://www.nvidia.com/object/tesla\_supercomputer\_wtb.html" title="nvidia.com">http://www.nvidia.com/object/tesla\_supercomputer\_wtb.html</a> [nvidia.com] </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and have up to four teraflops ... http : //www.nvidia.com/object/tesla \ _supercomputer \ _wtb.html [ nvidia.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and have up to four teraflops ... http://www.nvidia.com/object/tesla\_supercomputer\_wtb.html [nvidia.com] </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881259</id>
	<title>CUDA or OpenCL?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256586720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds like a nice toy to run stuff coded for CUDA or OpenCL - does anything OS than OS X support either of those properly yet?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like a nice toy to run stuff coded for CUDA or OpenCL - does anything OS than OS X support either of those properly yet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like a nice toy to run stuff coded for CUDA or OpenCL - does anything OS than OS X support either of those properly yet?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29883623</id>
	<title>yeah but...</title>
	<author>Sitxu</author>
	<datestamp>1256657400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does it run Linux?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it run Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it run Linux?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882613</id>
	<title>Cool...for gamers</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1256651760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now , not only can you fold the dna markers, you can also hotbox about 960 WoW accounts all at the same time....<br>groovy, I want one for christmas</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now , not only can you fold the dna markers , you can also hotbox about 960 WoW accounts all at the same time....groovy , I want one for christmas</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now , not only can you fold the dna markers, you can also hotbox about 960 WoW accounts all at the same time....groovy, I want one for christmas</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881235</id>
	<title>eroasion of the word</title>
	<author>pinkishpunk</author>
	<datestamp>1256586060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>how I long for the good old days, where a supercomputer meant a sexy cray, Sgi, thinking machines blinking led monster. Its just not the same when a supercomputer basicly is the same hardware as we have at our desk. Seems anything today can be a supercomputer, even the ugliest box.</htmltext>
<tokenext>how I long for the good old days , where a supercomputer meant a sexy cray , Sgi , thinking machines blinking led monster .
Its just not the same when a supercomputer basicly is the same hardware as we have at our desk .
Seems anything today can be a supercomputer , even the ugliest box .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how I long for the good old days, where a supercomputer meant a sexy cray, Sgi, thinking machines blinking led monster.
Its just not the same when a supercomputer basicly is the same hardware as we have at our desk.
Seems anything today can be a supercomputer, even the ugliest box.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881895</id>
	<title>Re:Boinc Applications...</title>
	<author>geekmux</author>
	<datestamp>1256641920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As a participant in the Milky Way and SETI projects for BOINC, I can say this development is impressive and would be a cruncher's dream come true.  It would put supercomputing power in the hands of the everyman and allow applications that rely on distributed computing to take a leap forward.</p></div><p>Yeah, but unless it's going to offer the surreal experience of porn in 4-D, you're probably not going to get many people biting to spend this "paltry" amount.</p><p>Now, I CAN see the average man "investing" $15K for a new holodeck o'porn...Sad?  Yes.  True?  Damn skippy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a participant in the Milky Way and SETI projects for BOINC , I can say this development is impressive and would be a cruncher 's dream come true .
It would put supercomputing power in the hands of the everyman and allow applications that rely on distributed computing to take a leap forward.Yeah , but unless it 's going to offer the surreal experience of porn in 4-D , you 're probably not going to get many people biting to spend this " paltry " amount.Now , I CAN see the average man " investing " $ 15K for a new holodeck o'porn...Sad ?
Yes. True ?
Damn skippy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a participant in the Milky Way and SETI projects for BOINC, I can say this development is impressive and would be a cruncher's dream come true.
It would put supercomputing power in the hands of the everyman and allow applications that rely on distributed computing to take a leap forward.Yeah, but unless it's going to offer the surreal experience of porn in 4-D, you're probably not going to get many people biting to spend this "paltry" amount.Now, I CAN see the average man "investing" $15K for a new holodeck o'porn...Sad?
Yes.  True?
Damn skippy.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29890957</id>
	<title>Re:Super computer?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256645400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This doesn't seem to match my internal definition of a "super computer" either.</p><p>I think Asus marketing decided to count all the "flops" not just from the processor, but also the graphic chips and got a number that was just about 1 tera of flops. They realized that 'tera' is a word that elicits BIG... in a computing sense. So they figured they would just launch a bunch of fake news reports and a matching press release to suggest that their expensive computer is a "Supercomputer"... that will probably be used to predict weather and prevent Katrina's. It wont.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This does n't seem to match my internal definition of a " super computer " either.I think Asus marketing decided to count all the " flops " not just from the processor , but also the graphic chips and got a number that was just about 1 tera of flops .
They realized that 'tera ' is a word that elicits BIG... in a computing sense .
So they figured they would just launch a bunch of fake news reports and a matching press release to suggest that their expensive computer is a " Supercomputer " ... that will probably be used to predict weather and prevent Katrina 's .
It wont .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This doesn't seem to match my internal definition of a "super computer" either.I think Asus marketing decided to count all the "flops" not just from the processor, but also the graphic chips and got a number that was just about 1 tera of flops.
They realized that 'tera' is a word that elicits BIG... in a computing sense.
So they figured they would just launch a bunch of fake news reports and a matching press release to suggest that their expensive computer is a "Supercomputer"... that will probably be used to predict weather and prevent Katrina's.
It wont.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881399</id>
	<title>Second Life</title>
	<author>kakur</author>
	<datestamp>1256675400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Finally, I can play Second Life at full framerate....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Finally , I can play Second Life at full framerate... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Finally, I can play Second Life at full framerate....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882035</id>
	<title>Almost bought this mobo but...</title>
	<author>tjstork</author>
	<datestamp>1256644080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It seems like loading up a motherboard with loads of PCI Express slots coupled with the 5520 chipset just makes for trouble.  I actually almost bought the motherboard upon which this computer is based, P6T-WS-Professional, but the problem is that it got some fairly mixed reviews as far as stability goes.  Tyan has a similar product, the S7025, but let yous you use two CPUs.  In both cases, people are reporting issues with.the boards.</p><p>It's rather unlike ASUS, for sure, as I trust the brand of motherboard.  So I stepped down to a less exotic asus z8pe-d12, which, has the added bonus of letting me run dual xeons, rather than just the single.  I probably could have gone with the Tyan, but it was more expensive, and honestly, GPU computing isn't something I'm doing.</p><p>Incidentally, not having PCI Express lanes like this is probably killing AMD more than anything else right now.  I looked at building an Opteron board based on Shanghai / Istanbul instead of Nehalem but the difference was PCI Express x16.  There's not much out there at all for AMD that supports it and dual CPU.  It's a shame because I had an Opteron previously and I like the brand a lot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems like loading up a motherboard with loads of PCI Express slots coupled with the 5520 chipset just makes for trouble .
I actually almost bought the motherboard upon which this computer is based , P6T-WS-Professional , but the problem is that it got some fairly mixed reviews as far as stability goes .
Tyan has a similar product , the S7025 , but let yous you use two CPUs .
In both cases , people are reporting issues with.the boards.It 's rather unlike ASUS , for sure , as I trust the brand of motherboard .
So I stepped down to a less exotic asus z8pe-d12 , which , has the added bonus of letting me run dual xeons , rather than just the single .
I probably could have gone with the Tyan , but it was more expensive , and honestly , GPU computing is n't something I 'm doing.Incidentally , not having PCI Express lanes like this is probably killing AMD more than anything else right now .
I looked at building an Opteron board based on Shanghai / Istanbul instead of Nehalem but the difference was PCI Express x16 .
There 's not much out there at all for AMD that supports it and dual CPU .
It 's a shame because I had an Opteron previously and I like the brand a lot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems like loading up a motherboard with loads of PCI Express slots coupled with the 5520 chipset just makes for trouble.
I actually almost bought the motherboard upon which this computer is based, P6T-WS-Professional, but the problem is that it got some fairly mixed reviews as far as stability goes.
Tyan has a similar product, the S7025, but let yous you use two CPUs.
In both cases, people are reporting issues with.the boards.It's rather unlike ASUS, for sure, as I trust the brand of motherboard.
So I stepped down to a less exotic asus z8pe-d12, which, has the added bonus of letting me run dual xeons, rather than just the single.
I probably could have gone with the Tyan, but it was more expensive, and honestly, GPU computing isn't something I'm doing.Incidentally, not having PCI Express lanes like this is probably killing AMD more than anything else right now.
I looked at building an Opteron board based on Shanghai / Istanbul instead of Nehalem but the difference was PCI Express x16.
There's not much out there at all for AMD that supports it and dual CPU.
It's a shame because I had an Opteron previously and I like the brand a lot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29883553</id>
	<title>Re:Boinc Applications...</title>
	<author>poetmatt</author>
	<datestamp>1256657100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>most people can do distributed computing far more powerfully for less money via getting a more potent graphics card whether it is from Nvidia or ATI, really.</p><p>build cost can probably be around $400 like that, and have better performance for cheaper. Doesn't Nvidia advertise around 1 or 2 Tflops for their graphics cards as ATI does?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>most people can do distributed computing far more powerfully for less money via getting a more potent graphics card whether it is from Nvidia or ATI , really.build cost can probably be around $ 400 like that , and have better performance for cheaper .
Does n't Nvidia advertise around 1 or 2 Tflops for their graphics cards as ATI does ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>most people can do distributed computing far more powerfully for less money via getting a more potent graphics card whether it is from Nvidia or ATI, really.build cost can probably be around $400 like that, and have better performance for cheaper.
Doesn't Nvidia advertise around 1 or 2 Tflops for their graphics cards as ATI does?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881301</id>
	<title>Re:Super computer?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256673720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So are you suggesting that by definition, a supercomputer is something on the Top500 list? If so, there can only be 500 supercomputers in the world. And if that were the case, it wouldn't be a list of the *top* 500 supercomputers, it would be a list of the only ones. In reality, there can be any number of supercomputers in the world, and whether this one qualifies depends on the definition.</p><p>Is it based on the number of cores? This one has almost 1,000. Is it based on the raw performance? This thing can theoretically do 1,100 GFLOPS. Is it based on shared memory bandwidth and interconnect speed? If so, I don't know how this one qualifies, but you might have to reconsider some on the Top500 list also.</p><p>dom</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So are you suggesting that by definition , a supercomputer is something on the Top500 list ?
If so , there can only be 500 supercomputers in the world .
And if that were the case , it would n't be a list of the * top * 500 supercomputers , it would be a list of the only ones .
In reality , there can be any number of supercomputers in the world , and whether this one qualifies depends on the definition.Is it based on the number of cores ?
This one has almost 1,000 .
Is it based on the raw performance ?
This thing can theoretically do 1,100 GFLOPS .
Is it based on shared memory bandwidth and interconnect speed ?
If so , I do n't know how this one qualifies , but you might have to reconsider some on the Top500 list also.dom</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So are you suggesting that by definition, a supercomputer is something on the Top500 list?
If so, there can only be 500 supercomputers in the world.
And if that were the case, it wouldn't be a list of the *top* 500 supercomputers, it would be a list of the only ones.
In reality, there can be any number of supercomputers in the world, and whether this one qualifies depends on the definition.Is it based on the number of cores?
This one has almost 1,000.
Is it based on the raw performance?
This thing can theoretically do 1,100 GFLOPS.
Is it based on shared memory bandwidth and interconnect speed?
If so, I don't know how this one qualifies, but you might have to reconsider some on the Top500 list also.dom</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29883043</id>
	<title>Re:Boinc Applications...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256654340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, I read ~$14K capital costs, which translates to roughly 50 EEE Boxes with 1.6GHz atoms, or 80 (ultra simplified) GFlops on normal CPUs, as opposed to 1.1 TFlops on GPUs.  Do your BOINC algorithms translate well into GPUs?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , I read ~ $ 14K capital costs , which translates to roughly 50 EEE Boxes with 1.6GHz atoms , or 80 ( ultra simplified ) GFlops on normal CPUs , as opposed to 1.1 TFlops on GPUs .
Do your BOINC algorithms translate well into GPUs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, I read ~$14K capital costs, which translates to roughly 50 EEE Boxes with 1.6GHz atoms, or 80 (ultra simplified) GFlops on normal CPUs, as opposed to 1.1 TFlops on GPUs.
Do your BOINC algorithms translate well into GPUs?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881383</id>
	<title>Re:No point running desktop Windows on this monste</title>
	<author>RightSaidFred99</author>
	<datestamp>1256675220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>And you're saying this...why?  Are you somehow convinced that these processors show up as general purpose CPUs?  They don't.  There is no conceivable reason something like this "needs" Windows.  You're going to have specialized compilers generating specialized code that gets handed off to the GPUs.  OS is mostly a non-issue.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And you 're saying this...why ?
Are you somehow convinced that these processors show up as general purpose CPUs ?
They do n't .
There is no conceivable reason something like this " needs " Windows .
You 're going to have specialized compilers generating specialized code that gets handed off to the GPUs .
OS is mostly a non-issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And you're saying this...why?
Are you somehow convinced that these processors show up as general purpose CPUs?
They don't.
There is no conceivable reason something like this "needs" Windows.
You're going to have specialized compilers generating specialized code that gets handed off to the GPUs.
OS is mostly a non-issue.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881511</id>
	<title>Compile times...</title>
	<author>stakovahflow</author>
	<datestamp>1256634600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow, just thinking of how quickly I could compile text-based monopoly or fortunes, from source, on Debian here... No, it may not be a true "Super Computer", but it'll sure play a mean console game, won't it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , just thinking of how quickly I could compile text-based monopoly or fortunes , from source , on Debian here... No , it may not be a true " Super Computer " , but it 'll sure play a mean console game , wo n't it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, just thinking of how quickly I could compile text-based monopoly or fortunes, from source, on Debian here... No, it may not be a true "Super Computer", but it'll sure play a mean console game, won't it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881141</id>
	<title>Cost?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256584680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A note in Asustek's literature said the ESC 1000 has a cost structure in software and hardware of US$14,519 over five years, but an Asustek representative declined to give a per-unit price or when the ESC 1000 would be available globally.</p> </div><p>Mmm. 14.5k to make and I'll assume they want to make a profit here. 25k? 30k? Possibly more?</p><p>So hey, how much does a regular supercomputer cost? And how do you cool these things?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A note in Asustek 's literature said the ESC 1000 has a cost structure in software and hardware of US $ 14,519 over five years , but an Asustek representative declined to give a per-unit price or when the ESC 1000 would be available globally .
Mmm. 14.5k to make and I 'll assume they want to make a profit here .
25k ? 30k ?
Possibly more ? So hey , how much does a regular supercomputer cost ?
And how do you cool these things ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A note in Asustek's literature said the ESC 1000 has a cost structure in software and hardware of US$14,519 over five years, but an Asustek representative declined to give a per-unit price or when the ESC 1000 would be available globally.
Mmm. 14.5k to make and I'll assume they want to make a profit here.
25k? 30k?
Possibly more?So hey, how much does a regular supercomputer cost?
And how do you cool these things?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881179</id>
	<title>Now they're copying Apple too!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256585340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Eb1yih5kNY" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Eb1yih5kNY</a> [youtube.com]</p><p>I remember when that ad came out. I was so pissed. Apple preys on people who have no concept of the scale of computing and this campaign really got under my skin. Now I just laugh at it, but they're still advertising this way, with their comparison charts and graphs touting biggest and best with comparisons to competitors' computing hardware from years past.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = 7Eb1yih5kNY [ youtube.com ] I remember when that ad came out .
I was so pissed .
Apple preys on people who have no concept of the scale of computing and this campaign really got under my skin .
Now I just laugh at it , but they 're still advertising this way , with their comparison charts and graphs touting biggest and best with comparisons to competitors ' computing hardware from years past .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Eb1yih5kNY [youtube.com]I remember when that ad came out.
I was so pissed.
Apple preys on people who have no concept of the scale of computing and this campaign really got under my skin.
Now I just laugh at it, but they're still advertising this way, with their comparison charts and graphs touting biggest and best with comparisons to competitors' computing hardware from years past.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882125</id>
	<title>Re:CUDA or OpenCL?</title>
	<author>ProfMobius</author>
	<datestamp>1256646060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>CUDA is available for Linux since a while now, and NVidia released OpenCL enabled linux drivers last month.<p>
Don't know the status for Windows or for ATI.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CUDA is available for Linux since a while now , and NVidia released OpenCL enabled linux drivers last month .
Do n't know the status for Windows or for ATI .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CUDA is available for Linux since a while now, and NVidia released OpenCL enabled linux drivers last month.
Don't know the status for Windows or for ATI.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882587</id>
	<title>Re:can it run MATLAB?</title>
	<author>LeDopore</author>
	<datestamp>1256651520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes.  With <a href="http://www.accelereyes.com/" title="accelereyes.com">Accelereyes</a> [accelereyes.com] and cuda.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
With Accelereyes [ accelereyes.com ] and cuda .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
With Accelereyes [accelereyes.com] and cuda.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881155</id>
	<title>You could of course get it in 2U last year</title>
	<author>dbIII</author>
	<datestamp>1256584860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Very impressive, but you could get something very similar last year.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Very impressive , but you could get something very similar last year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very impressive, but you could get something very similar last year.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29883913</id>
	<title>Putting this in perspective...</title>
	<author>SpinyNorman</author>
	<datestamp>1256658720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For some reason this story is tagged !supercomputer (as well as supercomputer), which seems downright churlish.</p><p>Sure NVidia's CUDA architecture is quite specialized and has some severe constaints, but OTOH so do any of these modern cluster-type supercomputers. Certain types of application map well onto these architectures and others don't. The CUDA architecture is certainly more constrained in terms of memory access per node and inter-node connectivity than say a cluster of Linux nodes.</p><p>OTOH, look at the downright mind-blowing maximum FLOP rating of this beast - 1,100,000,000,000 floating points ops per second!</p><p>Putting that in perspective I remember c.1980 when the DEC VAX was considered a very powerful department level computer given it's 1 (one) MFLOP rating - that's only <b>one millionth</b> of the power of this NVidia beasty!</p><p>Of course it remains to be seen what sort of FLOPS anyone can achieve in a real-world application on this, although presumably it would do pretty well on graphics rendering for which the architecture was originally designed.. be interesting to see how it compares on the types of graphics rendering that CRAY supercomputers were previously used for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For some reason this story is tagged ! supercomputer ( as well as supercomputer ) , which seems downright churlish.Sure NVidia 's CUDA architecture is quite specialized and has some severe constaints , but OTOH so do any of these modern cluster-type supercomputers .
Certain types of application map well onto these architectures and others do n't .
The CUDA architecture is certainly more constrained in terms of memory access per node and inter-node connectivity than say a cluster of Linux nodes.OTOH , look at the downright mind-blowing maximum FLOP rating of this beast - 1,100,000,000,000 floating points ops per second ! Putting that in perspective I remember c.1980 when the DEC VAX was considered a very powerful department level computer given it 's 1 ( one ) MFLOP rating - that 's only one millionth of the power of this NVidia beasty ! Of course it remains to be seen what sort of FLOPS anyone can achieve in a real-world application on this , although presumably it would do pretty well on graphics rendering for which the architecture was originally designed.. be interesting to see how it compares on the types of graphics rendering that CRAY supercomputers were previously used for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For some reason this story is tagged !supercomputer (as well as supercomputer), which seems downright churlish.Sure NVidia's CUDA architecture is quite specialized and has some severe constaints, but OTOH so do any of these modern cluster-type supercomputers.
Certain types of application map well onto these architectures and others don't.
The CUDA architecture is certainly more constrained in terms of memory access per node and inter-node connectivity than say a cluster of Linux nodes.OTOH, look at the downright mind-blowing maximum FLOP rating of this beast - 1,100,000,000,000 floating points ops per second!Putting that in perspective I remember c.1980 when the DEC VAX was considered a very powerful department level computer given it's 1 (one) MFLOP rating - that's only one millionth of the power of this NVidia beasty!Of course it remains to be seen what sort of FLOPS anyone can achieve in a real-world application on this, although presumably it would do pretty well on graphics rendering for which the architecture was originally designed.. be interesting to see how it compares on the types of graphics rendering that CRAY supercomputers were previously used for.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882527</id>
	<title>But...</title>
	<author>akeyes</author>
	<datestamp>1256651100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does it run Linux?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it run Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it run Linux?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882183</id>
	<title>For medical purposes</title>
	<author>janap</author>
	<datestamp>1256647140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From TFA: "Computers able to perform at such high speeds can be used in a variety of ways, including scientific research, image manipulation, engineering modeling or for medical purposes."</p><p>Medical purposes? Really? OK, so I vote this is a better solution than a shot in the arm against the pig sniffles. Give them away for free, government sponsored!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : " Computers able to perform at such high speeds can be used in a variety of ways , including scientific research , image manipulation , engineering modeling or for medical purposes .
" Medical purposes ?
Really ? OK , so I vote this is a better solution than a shot in the arm against the pig sniffles .
Give them away for free , government sponsored !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA: "Computers able to perform at such high speeds can be used in a variety of ways, including scientific research, image manipulation, engineering modeling or for medical purposes.
"Medical purposes?
Really? OK, so I vote this is a better solution than a shot in the arm against the pig sniffles.
Give them away for free, government sponsored!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29900585</id>
	<title>Re:How about non Floating Point performance ?</title>
	<author>Life2Death</author>
	<datestamp>1256758080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They should still benefit. However, running on Nvidia hardware basically farks you - you need CUDA at least for now, and that crap is expensive. ATI packs a bigger punch, for less in the short (Cheaper GPU) and long run (less power per flop)</p><p>GPU's are great are multiple parallel things, which is what you're describing. Tada</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They should still benefit .
However , running on Nvidia hardware basically farks you - you need CUDA at least for now , and that crap is expensive .
ATI packs a bigger punch , for less in the short ( Cheaper GPU ) and long run ( less power per flop ) GPU 's are great are multiple parallel things , which is what you 're describing .
Tada</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They should still benefit.
However, running on Nvidia hardware basically farks you - you need CUDA at least for now, and that crap is expensive.
ATI packs a bigger punch, for less in the short (Cheaper GPU) and long run (less power per flop)GPU's are great are multiple parallel things, which is what you're describing.
Tada</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882821</id>
	<title>historical comparisions available ?</title>
	<author>cinnamon colbert</author>
	<datestamp>1256653080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>does anyone have historical comparisions going back to the 70s, eg, how many terflops and how much ram nasa had during apollo.<br>I have this memory of an ad taken out by Boeing in the late 70s, offering their world class supercomputers to researchers; among the leading edge attributes was 500 meg of solid state memory</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>does anyone have historical comparisions going back to the 70s , eg , how many terflops and how much ram nasa had during apollo.I have this memory of an ad taken out by Boeing in the late 70s , offering their world class supercomputers to researchers ; among the leading edge attributes was 500 meg of solid state memory</tokentext>
<sentencetext>does anyone have historical comparisions going back to the 70s, eg, how many terflops and how much ram nasa had during apollo.I have this memory of an ad taken out by Boeing in the late 70s, offering their world class supercomputers to researchers; among the leading edge attributes was 500 meg of solid state memory</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882353</id>
	<title>Re:Not long ago</title>
	<author>Targon</author>
	<datestamp>1256649840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Computation power only matters if you actually use it for something useful.   The fastest chip out there that isn't being used, or does not generate reliable results is worthless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Computation power only matters if you actually use it for something useful .
The fastest chip out there that is n't being used , or does not generate reliable results is worthless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Computation power only matters if you actually use it for something useful.
The fastest chip out there that isn't being used, or does not generate reliable results is worthless.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29908225</id>
	<title>Re:wow</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256816820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>how long before we have three dimensional processors?</p></div><p>But why? I love 2D "thinner than paper" processors<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>how long before we have three dimensional processors ? But why ?
I love 2D " thinner than paper " processors : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how long before we have three dimensional processors?But why?
I love 2D "thinner than paper" processors :)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881261</id>
	<title>Re:But how can you trust the results?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256586780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm a student at the University of Washington and once talked to a representative for Cray about using GPU's a a cheaper supercomputer and he told me that they generally have a nontrivial error rate.  The issue with using ECC memory is that the GPU's are also libel for errors within their computations, making the ECC RAM pointless.  A weird pixel in one frame of a game is no problem, but an error when performing a large simulation creates problems if the algorithm isn't designed to compensate for that noise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a student at the University of Washington and once talked to a representative for Cray about using GPU 's a a cheaper supercomputer and he told me that they generally have a nontrivial error rate .
The issue with using ECC memory is that the GPU 's are also libel for errors within their computations , making the ECC RAM pointless .
A weird pixel in one frame of a game is no problem , but an error when performing a large simulation creates problems if the algorithm is n't designed to compensate for that noise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a student at the University of Washington and once talked to a representative for Cray about using GPU's a a cheaper supercomputer and he told me that they generally have a nontrivial error rate.
The issue with using ECC memory is that the GPU's are also libel for errors within their computations, making the ECC RAM pointless.
A weird pixel in one frame of a game is no problem, but an error when performing a large simulation creates problems if the algorithm isn't designed to compensate for that noise.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881557</id>
	<title>Re:But how can you trust the results?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256635500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everything named after Tesla should be trusted by default.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everything named after Tesla should be trusted by default .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everything named after Tesla should be trusted by default.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29892497</id>
	<title>Re:But how can you trust the results?EXCUSE ME...</title>
	<author>Nom du Keyboard</author>
	<datestamp>1256656620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I can't wait until the US government starts banning these things because they could be used by terrorists to design nuclear weapons or something.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Excuse me, BUT...<br> <br>
The first hydrogen atomic bomb was designed back in the days of ENIAC, which could perform<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.385K multiplies (yes that's <b>point</b> 385K) per second.  The atomic bomb was pre-ENIAC.  I don't think you need a teraflop of computing power to magically get your Bomb.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't wait until the US government starts banning these things because they could be used by terrorists to design nuclear weapons or something .
Excuse me , BUT.. . The first hydrogen atomic bomb was designed back in the days of ENIAC , which could perform .385K multiplies ( yes that 's point 385K ) per second .
The atomic bomb was pre-ENIAC .
I do n't think you need a teraflop of computing power to magically get your Bomb .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't wait until the US government starts banning these things because they could be used by terrorists to design nuclear weapons or something.
Excuse me, BUT... 
The first hydrogen atomic bomb was designed back in the days of ENIAC, which could perform .385K multiplies (yes that's point 385K) per second.
The atomic bomb was pre-ENIAC.
I don't think you need a teraflop of computing power to magically get your Bomb.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29885135</id>
	<title>Re:needs more "super"</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1256664420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suppose its all a question of how you define "super". If you have a big enough desk, its possible.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suppose its all a question of how you define " super " .
If you have a big enough desk , its possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suppose its all a question of how you define "super".
If you have a big enough desk, its possible.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881187</id>
	<title>Super computer?</title>
	<author>MosesJones</author>
	<datestamp>1256585520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ummm isn't this just a ridiculously powerful desktop computer rather than a super computer?  The current 500th super computer on the top500 list is <a href="http://www.top500.org/system/9559" title="top500.org">this machine</a> [top500.org] which has a Rmax of 17 Tflops and an Rpeak of just over 37.6.  Now its impressive that this desktop system has 1/37th of the power of the lowest machine on the super computer list... but does that really make it a super computer?  Moore's Law says that it will take around 10 years for this desktop box to evolve to the power of that current bottom top500 box.  So in other words its 10 years behind the performance of the current 500th best super computer.</p><p>If its because it hits 1 Tflops then in a few years time you'll have mobile phone "super computers" as Moore's Law is still moving onwards.</p><p>This is a very very fast desktop computer suited to certain simulation elements which are GPU intensive.  Nice box, fast box.... but not a real modern super computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ummm is n't this just a ridiculously powerful desktop computer rather than a super computer ?
The current 500th super computer on the top500 list is this machine [ top500.org ] which has a Rmax of 17 Tflops and an Rpeak of just over 37.6 .
Now its impressive that this desktop system has 1/37th of the power of the lowest machine on the super computer list... but does that really make it a super computer ?
Moore 's Law says that it will take around 10 years for this desktop box to evolve to the power of that current bottom top500 box .
So in other words its 10 years behind the performance of the current 500th best super computer.If its because it hits 1 Tflops then in a few years time you 'll have mobile phone " super computers " as Moore 's Law is still moving onwards.This is a very very fast desktop computer suited to certain simulation elements which are GPU intensive .
Nice box , fast box.... but not a real modern super computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ummm isn't this just a ridiculously powerful desktop computer rather than a super computer?
The current 500th super computer on the top500 list is this machine [top500.org] which has a Rmax of 17 Tflops and an Rpeak of just over 37.6.
Now its impressive that this desktop system has 1/37th of the power of the lowest machine on the super computer list... but does that really make it a super computer?
Moore's Law says that it will take around 10 years for this desktop box to evolve to the power of that current bottom top500 box.
So in other words its 10 years behind the performance of the current 500th best super computer.If its because it hits 1 Tflops then in a few years time you'll have mobile phone "super computers" as Moore's Law is still moving onwards.This is a very very fast desktop computer suited to certain simulation elements which are GPU intensive.
Nice box, fast box.... but not a real modern super computer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29886775</id>
	<title>Re:But how can you trust the results?</title>
	<author>kpesler</author>
	<datestamp>1256671440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree with this in principle, but, in practice, it doesn't seem to come up as often as one might think.  I frequently use NCSA's Lincoln cluster with 384 Teslas.  Early on, I discovered some "hard" memory errors (repeatable bad bits or rows).  These were very early boards, which apparently hadn't been fully tested.  This prompted the admins at NCSA to write the GPU equivalent of memtest86, which they ran for about a month if I recall.  After removing the boards with bad memory (about 3-4, if I recall), they didn't encounter any "soft" errors (i.e. random bit flips).  NVIDIA's Fermi will have ECC, which is reassuring, but I have found the present generation, without ECC, to be quite reliable.  I should also note that the hard errors I found always resulted in NANs/INFs, etc., which are very obvious.  I'd be more concerned with "silent" errors that subtly change the results.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree with this in principle , but , in practice , it does n't seem to come up as often as one might think .
I frequently use NCSA 's Lincoln cluster with 384 Teslas .
Early on , I discovered some " hard " memory errors ( repeatable bad bits or rows ) .
These were very early boards , which apparently had n't been fully tested .
This prompted the admins at NCSA to write the GPU equivalent of memtest86 , which they ran for about a month if I recall .
After removing the boards with bad memory ( about 3-4 , if I recall ) , they did n't encounter any " soft " errors ( i.e .
random bit flips ) .
NVIDIA 's Fermi will have ECC , which is reassuring , but I have found the present generation , without ECC , to be quite reliable .
I should also note that the hard errors I found always resulted in NANs/INFs , etc. , which are very obvious .
I 'd be more concerned with " silent " errors that subtly change the results .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree with this in principle, but, in practice, it doesn't seem to come up as often as one might think.
I frequently use NCSA's Lincoln cluster with 384 Teslas.
Early on, I discovered some "hard" memory errors (repeatable bad bits or rows).
These were very early boards, which apparently hadn't been fully tested.
This prompted the admins at NCSA to write the GPU equivalent of memtest86, which they ran for about a month if I recall.
After removing the boards with bad memory (about 3-4, if I recall), they didn't encounter any "soft" errors (i.e.
random bit flips).
NVIDIA's Fermi will have ECC, which is reassuring, but I have found the present generation, without ECC, to be quite reliable.
I should also note that the hard errors I found always resulted in NANs/INFs, etc., which are very obvious.
I'd be more concerned with "silent" errors that subtly change the results.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882559</id>
	<title>Re:Hrmm</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1256651340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>How many pets would I have to eat to balance out the carbon footprint of this? I've got a six-pack of kittens at the ready.</i></p><p>Don't <b>eat</b> 'em, that's wasteful. Kittens don't have much meat on 'em. You should <a href="http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kitten\_huffing" title="wikia.com">huff them instead</a> [wikia.com].</p><p>The orange ones will fuck you up REAL good.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How many pets would I have to eat to balance out the carbon footprint of this ?
I 've got a six-pack of kittens at the ready.Do n't eat 'em , that 's wasteful .
Kittens do n't have much meat on 'em .
You should huff them instead [ wikia.com ] .The orange ones will fuck you up REAL good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many pets would I have to eat to balance out the carbon footprint of this?
I've got a six-pack of kittens at the ready.Don't eat 'em, that's wasteful.
Kittens don't have much meat on 'em.
You should huff them instead [wikia.com].The orange ones will fuck you up REAL good.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881223</id>
	<title>Not long ago</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256586000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Cray T3E-1200E reached 1 teraflops in 1998. Now, we can reach that same level of performance (depending on the app) with a desktop computer. How time flys...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Cray T3E-1200E reached 1 teraflops in 1998 .
Now , we can reach that same level of performance ( depending on the app ) with a desktop computer .
How time flys.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Cray T3E-1200E reached 1 teraflops in 1998.
Now, we can reach that same level of performance (depending on the app) with a desktop computer.
How time flys...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29892351</id>
	<title>Not from ASUS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256655180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've seen this kind of crap before.  "Super speed" they cry out.  But programming environment?  How about the fun of re-writing all of your apps from scratch?  And games?  Games won't run on this!  Games need a processor, and also a GPU.  This has GPU galore, but processor?  Nada.  And it likely won't run well with Linux.  Without Linux, its a non-starter.  You can say 'but, but, but..." all you like, but in the world of supercomputers, Linux is where its at (and there are a LOT of reasons for that, price being the last).  Asus has earned a really lousy reputation in the Linux community.  This dog don't hunt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've seen this kind of crap before .
" Super speed " they cry out .
But programming environment ?
How about the fun of re-writing all of your apps from scratch ?
And games ?
Games wo n't run on this !
Games need a processor , and also a GPU .
This has GPU galore , but processor ?
Nada. And it likely wo n't run well with Linux .
Without Linux , its a non-starter .
You can say 'but , but , but... " all you like , but in the world of supercomputers , Linux is where its at ( and there are a LOT of reasons for that , price being the last ) .
Asus has earned a really lousy reputation in the Linux community .
This dog do n't hunt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've seen this kind of crap before.
"Super speed" they cry out.
But programming environment?
How about the fun of re-writing all of your apps from scratch?
And games?
Games won't run on this!
Games need a processor, and also a GPU.
This has GPU galore, but processor?
Nada.  And it likely won't run well with Linux.
Without Linux, its a non-starter.
You can say 'but, but, but..." all you like, but in the world of supercomputers, Linux is where its at (and there are a LOT of reasons for that, price being the last).
Asus has earned a really lousy reputation in the Linux community.
This dog don't hunt.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881601</id>
	<title>Facts etc.</title>
	<author>Rotonen</author>
	<datestamp>1256636040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since when has a workstation processor been considered server hardware?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since when has a workstation processor been considered server hardware ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since when has a workstation processor been considered server hardware?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29888705</id>
	<title>A geek who never understood multiple vidcards asks</title>
	<author>The Archon V2.0</author>
	<datestamp>1256636040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... if the <a href="http://images.nvidia.com/products/tesla\_c1060/Tesla\_c1060\_3qtr\_low.png" title="nvidia.com">Teslas</a> [nvidia.com] and the <a href="http://images.nvidia.com/products/quadro\_fx\_5800/Quadro\_FX5800\_low\_3qtr.png" title="nvidia.com">Quadro</a> [nvidia.com] have their fans on the bottom (relative the case), and each card is pretty much <a href="http://taiwan.cnet.com/sharedmedia/product/crave/2009/1026/esc1000\_09.jpg" title="cnet.com">wedged right up against</a> [cnet.com] its lower neighbor or the case bottom, then where are the cards supposed to get cool air from?<p>

(More <a href="http://taiwan.cnet.com/crave/0,2000088746,20142318,00.htm" title="cnet.com">pictures</a> [cnet.com], including the obligatory model to hang off the computer like it was a sugar daddy.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... if the Teslas [ nvidia.com ] and the Quadro [ nvidia.com ] have their fans on the bottom ( relative the case ) , and each card is pretty much wedged right up against [ cnet.com ] its lower neighbor or the case bottom , then where are the cards supposed to get cool air from ?
( More pictures [ cnet.com ] , including the obligatory model to hang off the computer like it was a sugar daddy .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... if the Teslas [nvidia.com] and the Quadro [nvidia.com] have their fans on the bottom (relative the case), and each card is pretty much wedged right up against [cnet.com] its lower neighbor or the case bottom, then where are the cards supposed to get cool air from?
(More pictures [cnet.com], including the obligatory model to hang off the computer like it was a sugar daddy.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882305</id>
	<title>can anyone tell me</title>
	<author>jmknsd</author>
	<datestamp>1256649240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What would be the benefit of one of these machines vs a 1920 core, 4x GTX 295 machine, if I do not need the extra memory on the GPU?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What would be the benefit of one of these machines vs a 1920 core , 4x GTX 295 machine , if I do not need the extra memory on the GPU ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What would be the benefit of one of these machines vs a 1920 core, 4x GTX 295 machine, if I do not need the extra memory on the GPU?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29895075</id>
	<title>Re:Super computer?</title>
	<author>Nowhere.Men</author>
	<datestamp>1256732760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It takes ~ 8 years to go from top to bottom of the top 500.</p><p>And looking at the list, most of the top 500 are not supercomputer, they are just big server rooms that have been used once to perform the test necessary to calculate the combine power of the macines.</p><p>Such a machine would probably be more used as super computer ( used to process  one thing at a time that needs lots of power)  than the server rooms of Internet utilities that makes the top500 ( process millions of small requests).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It takes ~ 8 years to go from top to bottom of the top 500.And looking at the list , most of the top 500 are not supercomputer , they are just big server rooms that have been used once to perform the test necessary to calculate the combine power of the macines.Such a machine would probably be more used as super computer ( used to process one thing at a time that needs lots of power ) than the server rooms of Internet utilities that makes the top500 ( process millions of small requests ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It takes ~ 8 years to go from top to bottom of the top 500.And looking at the list, most of the top 500 are not supercomputer, they are just big server rooms that have been used once to perform the test necessary to calculate the combine power of the macines.Such a machine would probably be more used as super computer ( used to process  one thing at a time that needs lots of power)  than the server rooms of Internet utilities that makes the top500 ( process millions of small requests).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881125</id>
	<title>Asus!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256584440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I fucked your dead great grandmother up the asus!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I fucked your dead great grandmother up the asus !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I fucked your dead great grandmother up the asus!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881153</id>
	<title>Boinc Applications...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256584860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a participant in the Milky Way and SETI projects for BOINC, I can say this development is impressive and would be a cruncher's dream come true.  It would put supercomputing power in the hands of the everyman and allow applications that rely on distributed computing to take a leap forward.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a participant in the Milky Way and SETI projects for BOINC , I can say this development is impressive and would be a cruncher 's dream come true .
It would put supercomputing power in the hands of the everyman and allow applications that rely on distributed computing to take a leap forward .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a participant in the Milky Way and SETI projects for BOINC, I can say this development is impressive and would be a cruncher's dream come true.
It would put supercomputing power in the hands of the everyman and allow applications that rely on distributed computing to take a leap forward.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29883493</id>
	<title>Re:eroasion of the word</title>
	<author>Nadaka</author>
	<datestamp>1256656740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In my fathers day a supercomputer took up 4 football fields of hardened underground bunker space. And if the air conditioning in the building ever failed, you had less than 4 minutes to get out or you die and catch on fire.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In my fathers day a supercomputer took up 4 football fields of hardened underground bunker space .
And if the air conditioning in the building ever failed , you had less than 4 minutes to get out or you die and catch on fire .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In my fathers day a supercomputer took up 4 football fields of hardened underground bunker space.
And if the air conditioning in the building ever failed, you had less than 4 minutes to get out or you die and catch on fire.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881311</id>
	<title>Asustek has unveiled its first supercomputer...</title>
	<author>hallux.sinister</author>
	<datestamp>1256673900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>...which will be used principly for... typing e-mails and surfing the internet, just like 90+\% of other desktop computers... oh yeah, and downloading lots and lots of porn.  Way to go, guys!  Keep the hits coming!</htmltext>
<tokenext>...which will be used principly for... typing e-mails and surfing the internet , just like 90 + \ % of other desktop computers... oh yeah , and downloading lots and lots of porn .
Way to go , guys !
Keep the hits coming !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...which will be used principly for... typing e-mails and surfing the internet, just like 90+\% of other desktop computers... oh yeah, and downloading lots and lots of porn.
Way to go, guys!
Keep the hits coming!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882525</id>
	<title>Re:Hrmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256651100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>In Soviet Russia, you nom kittehs!</htmltext>
<tokenext>In Soviet Russia , you nom kittehs !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Soviet Russia, you nom kittehs!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882339</id>
	<title>Re:can it run MATLAB?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256649600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, most academics really don't use MATLAB or Octave when performance is key.  For some initial prototype, perhaps.  But you would normally turn to something a little more (well, much more) performant, very quickly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , most academics really do n't use MATLAB or Octave when performance is key .
For some initial prototype , perhaps .
But you would normally turn to something a little more ( well , much more ) performant , very quickly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, most academics really don't use MATLAB or Octave when performance is key.
For some initial prototype, perhaps.
But you would normally turn to something a little more (well, much more) performant, very quickly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881609</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29883083</id>
	<title>They aren't the first, nor the "super"est</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256654520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nvidia has had a <a href="http://www.nvidia.com/object/tesla\_supercomputer\_wtb.html" title="nvidia.com" rel="nofollow">page up</a> [nvidia.com] for a while on this.  Most of these units use small desktop motherboards, have limited ram and IO capability, and lots of GPU.  These are poor designs for many calculations.  These <a href="http://scalableinformatics.com/pegasus" title="scalableinformatics.com" rel="nofollow">guys</a> [scalableinformatics.com] have a dual socket, full server class motherboard with up to 144 GB of ECC DDR3 RAM, as well as putting more than 500 MB/s into their local disk IO channel with up to 32 2.5 inch SATA or SAS drives, <a href="http://scalableinformatics.com/pegasus?quicktabs\_1=1#quicktabs-1" title="scalableinformatics.com" rel="nofollow">in a single quiet deskside chassis</a> [scalableinformatics.com].</p><p>Asus wasn't the first.  They are about a year late to the party.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nvidia has had a page up [ nvidia.com ] for a while on this .
Most of these units use small desktop motherboards , have limited ram and IO capability , and lots of GPU .
These are poor designs for many calculations .
These guys [ scalableinformatics.com ] have a dual socket , full server class motherboard with up to 144 GB of ECC DDR3 RAM , as well as putting more than 500 MB/s into their local disk IO channel with up to 32 2.5 inch SATA or SAS drives , in a single quiet deskside chassis [ scalableinformatics.com ] .Asus was n't the first .
They are about a year late to the party .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nvidia has had a page up [nvidia.com] for a while on this.
Most of these units use small desktop motherboards, have limited ram and IO capability, and lots of GPU.
These are poor designs for many calculations.
These guys [scalableinformatics.com] have a dual socket, full server class motherboard with up to 144 GB of ECC DDR3 RAM, as well as putting more than 500 MB/s into their local disk IO channel with up to 32 2.5 inch SATA or SAS drives, in a single quiet deskside chassis [scalableinformatics.com].Asus wasn't the first.
They are about a year late to the party.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882857</id>
	<title>Re:Boinc Applications...</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1256653260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I dunno. If you listen to some Windows gamer types, this sort<br>of gear isn't only mundane, it's positively primitive and out<br>of date and everyone has better stuff than this already.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I dunno .
If you listen to some Windows gamer types , this sortof gear is n't only mundane , it 's positively primitive and outof date and everyone has better stuff than this already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dunno.
If you listen to some Windows gamer types, this sortof gear isn't only mundane, it's positively primitive and outof date and everyone has better stuff than this already.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881391</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881707</id>
	<title>Re:Super computer?</title>
	<author>vikstar</author>
	<datestamp>1256638320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, just because it is capable of 1.1Tflops doesn't mean it can do 1.1Tflops on whatever calculation you give it, only for certain specific calculations that scale well to GPUs. Hell, if you forgive the reductio ad absurdum, then I've got a piece of circular glass on my desk than can do 1Yflop, but it can only perform a specific lighting caustics simulation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , just because it is capable of 1.1Tflops does n't mean it can do 1.1Tflops on whatever calculation you give it , only for certain specific calculations that scale well to GPUs .
Hell , if you forgive the reductio ad absurdum , then I 've got a piece of circular glass on my desk than can do 1Yflop , but it can only perform a specific lighting caustics simulation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, just because it is capable of 1.1Tflops doesn't mean it can do 1.1Tflops on whatever calculation you give it, only for certain specific calculations that scale well to GPUs.
Hell, if you forgive the reductio ad absurdum, then I've got a piece of circular glass on my desk than can do 1Yflop, but it can only perform a specific lighting caustics simulation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881187</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881867</id>
	<title>Re:No point running desktop Windows on this monste</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1256641260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes indeed.  Who in their right mind would run anything GPU-intensive on Windows?  The platform is well known for having absolutely terrible video drivers.  I hear that most manufacturers don't even support the platform, and just expect the community to write drivers!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes indeed .
Who in their right mind would run anything GPU-intensive on Windows ?
The platform is well known for having absolutely terrible video drivers .
I hear that most manufacturers do n't even support the platform , and just expect the community to write drivers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes indeed.
Who in their right mind would run anything GPU-intensive on Windows?
The platform is well known for having absolutely terrible video drivers.
I hear that most manufacturers don't even support the platform, and just expect the community to write drivers!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881157</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881309</id>
	<title>needs more "super"</title>
	<author>Rennt</author>
	<datestamp>1256673900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I put it to you that any computer that fits on or under a desk is not "super".</htmltext>
<tokenext>I put it to you that any computer that fits on or under a desk is not " super " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I put it to you that any computer that fits on or under a desk is not "super".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881555</id>
	<title>Obligatory</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256635500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Imagine a beowulf cluster of these...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine a beowulf cluster of these.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine a beowulf cluster of these...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881245</id>
	<title>Shame on US, Chinese companies lead the way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256586300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it any wonder that US economic dominion is eroding the way it is. This is yet another telltale sign of the fact that China is going to be the economic superpower of the 21st century not the US.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it any wonder that US economic dominion is eroding the way it is .
This is yet another telltale sign of the fact that China is going to be the economic superpower of the 21st century not the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it any wonder that US economic dominion is eroding the way it is.
This is yet another telltale sign of the fact that China is going to be the economic superpower of the 21st century not the US.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881185</id>
	<title>Index?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256585520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The real question of course is, what the "Windows Vista experience index" of this machine is. If it's anywhere below 5.5 it's obviously not worth the bother.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The real question of course is , what the " Windows Vista experience index " of this machine is .
If it 's anywhere below 5.5 it 's obviously not worth the bother .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The real question of course is, what the "Windows Vista experience index" of this machine is.
If it's anywhere below 5.5 it's obviously not worth the bother.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881439</id>
	<title>Re:Super computer?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256676300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The definition of supercomputer seems to vary pretty wildly. I remember a few years back when Apple was running adds for their PowerMac that had hit 1 gigaflop, making it the world's first supercomputer desktop, supposedly. There was a time when saying something was a "supercomputer" was the same thing as saying it was "capable of 1 gigaflop." Whether that time has technically passed or not, I don't really know. Tacking the word <em>modern</em> before the term, as you did, seems to keep it relevant, regardless.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The definition of supercomputer seems to vary pretty wildly .
I remember a few years back when Apple was running adds for their PowerMac that had hit 1 gigaflop , making it the world 's first supercomputer desktop , supposedly .
There was a time when saying something was a " supercomputer " was the same thing as saying it was " capable of 1 gigaflop .
" Whether that time has technically passed or not , I do n't really know .
Tacking the word modern before the term , as you did , seems to keep it relevant , regardless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The definition of supercomputer seems to vary pretty wildly.
I remember a few years back when Apple was running adds for their PowerMac that had hit 1 gigaflop, making it the world's first supercomputer desktop, supposedly.
There was a time when saying something was a "supercomputer" was the same thing as saying it was "capable of 1 gigaflop.
" Whether that time has technically passed or not, I don't really know.
Tacking the word modern before the term, as you did, seems to keep it relevant, regardless.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881187</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881199</id>
	<title>How many pets</title>
	<author>macraig</author>
	<datestamp>1256585580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One case of them kittens would be equivalent, or you could substitute one PITA mother-in-law.  Would you like some ketchup with your soylent green?  It's a nice color contrast.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One case of them kittens would be equivalent , or you could substitute one PITA mother-in-law .
Would you like some ketchup with your soylent green ?
It 's a nice color contrast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One case of them kittens would be equivalent, or you could substitute one PITA mother-in-law.
Would you like some ketchup with your soylent green?
It's a nice color contrast.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881135</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881749</id>
	<title>But...</title>
	<author>thephydes</author>
	<datestamp>1256638920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does it run windows 7?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it run windows 7 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it run windows 7?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881139</id>
	<title>In other news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256584620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>manufacturers around the world fear a race to the top!</htmltext>
<tokenext>manufacturers around the world fear a race to the top !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>manufacturers around the world fear a race to the top!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29886019</id>
	<title>Good Luck</title>
	<author>ThatsNotPudding</author>
	<datestamp>1256668140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>with <i>that</i> xorg.conf file.</htmltext>
<tokenext>with that xorg.conf file .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with that xorg.conf file.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881333</id>
	<title>How $$</title>
	<author>diefuchsjagden</author>
	<datestamp>1256674380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>How much is this Swedish(Taiwanese) Made Pen15 enlarger gonna Cost?? It maybe "desktop" sized but I doubt desktop prices!</htmltext>
<tokenext>How much is this Swedish ( Taiwanese ) Made Pen15 enlarger gon na Cost ? ?
It maybe " desktop " sized but I doubt desktop prices !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much is this Swedish(Taiwanese) Made Pen15 enlarger gonna Cost??
It maybe "desktop" sized but I doubt desktop prices!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29883787</id>
	<title>Re:Super computer?</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1256658180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed; your cell phone is more powerful than a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cray-1" title="wikipedia.org">supercomputer</a> [wikipedia.org] now.</p><p>Not a modern supercomputer, of course.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed ; your cell phone is more powerful than a supercomputer [ wikipedia.org ] now.Not a modern supercomputer , of course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed; your cell phone is more powerful than a supercomputer [wikipedia.org] now.Not a modern supercomputer, of course.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881187</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29884369</id>
	<title>Re:How about non Floating Point performance ?</title>
	<author>raftpeople</author>
	<datestamp>1256660880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a simulation I ported to the GTX280, it's all integer.  For my simulation, the biggest problem with using the GPU is memory access patterns, I need too much random read/write which doesn't fit real well with their processing model.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a simulation I ported to the GTX280 , it 's all integer .
For my simulation , the biggest problem with using the GPU is memory access patterns , I need too much random read/write which does n't fit real well with their processing model .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a simulation I ported to the GTX280, it's all integer.
For my simulation, the biggest problem with using the GPU is memory access patterns, I need too much random read/write which doesn't fit real well with their processing model.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881605</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882397</id>
	<title>Re:Boinc Applications...</title>
	<author>MiniMike</author>
	<datestamp>1256650200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As a fellow SETI participant, I also have to appreciate how much faster this would allow us to not find evidence of alien life.  Maybe I would use a few hundred cores for one of the other BOINC projects too...</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a fellow SETI participant , I also have to appreciate how much faster this would allow us to not find evidence of alien life .
Maybe I would use a few hundred cores for one of the other BOINC projects too.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a fellow SETI participant, I also have to appreciate how much faster this would allow us to not find evidence of alien life.
Maybe I would use a few hundred cores for one of the other BOINC projects too...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881153</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882719</id>
	<title>not so impressive</title>
	<author>mr\_death</author>
	<datestamp>1256652420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Remember that this 1.1TF is single-precision; double-precision is around 240GF. Let's hope they fix this in the next version.</p><p>Also, there is 240 cores per C1060, for 720 cores total of Tesla power. The additional 240 cores come from the Quadro in the system; those cores may occasionally be busy with graphics work and unavailable for computation.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Remember that this 1.1TF is single-precision ; double-precision is around 240GF .
Let 's hope they fix this in the next version.Also , there is 240 cores per C1060 , for 720 cores total of Tesla power .
The additional 240 cores come from the Quadro in the system ; those cores may occasionally be busy with graphics work and unavailable for computation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remember that this 1.1TF is single-precision; double-precision is around 240GF.
Let's hope they fix this in the next version.Also, there is 240 cores per C1060, for 720 cores total of Tesla power.
The additional 240 cores come from the Quadro in the system; those cores may occasionally be busy with graphics work and unavailable for computation.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881153</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882201</id>
	<title>Re:Hrmm</title>
	<author>runyonave</author>
	<datestamp>1256647320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's just gross. Why would you eat six kittens. I recommend you find a moderately large cat and eat that. No need to eat some innocent kittens.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's just gross .
Why would you eat six kittens .
I recommend you find a moderately large cat and eat that .
No need to eat some innocent kittens .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's just gross.
Why would you eat six kittens.
I recommend you find a moderately large cat and eat that.
No need to eat some innocent kittens.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881135</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881291</id>
	<title>WIndows 7 not Vista?</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1256673600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>processors to attain speeds up to 1.1 teraflops. </i></p><p>So you're saying it's fast enough to run Windows 7, but forget Vista?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>processors to attain speeds up to 1.1 teraflops .
So you 're saying it 's fast enough to run Windows 7 , but forget Vista ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>processors to attain speeds up to 1.1 teraflops.
So you're saying it's fast enough to run Windows 7, but forget Vista?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29895935</id>
	<title>Re:But how can you trust the results?</title>
	<author>Agripa</author>
	<datestamp>1256739180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Which is why the upcoming NVIDIA "Fermi" GPU based boards will support 4GB of ECC memory.</p></div></blockquote><p>According to the patent nVidia filed, 4GiB if RAM on the Fermi will yield about 3.2GiB of addressable memory with ECC enabled.  Instead of adding extra ECC bits, the 32 bit wide burst length is increased from 4 lines to 5 lines so for every 128 data bits loaded from a 32 bit wide channel, 160 bits is actually read with 16 bits thrown away.  I wonder if the successor to GDDR3/5 will support a 36 bit wide channel for ECC applications.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Which is why the upcoming NVIDIA " Fermi " GPU based boards will support 4GB of ECC memory.According to the patent nVidia filed , 4GiB if RAM on the Fermi will yield about 3.2GiB of addressable memory with ECC enabled .
Instead of adding extra ECC bits , the 32 bit wide burst length is increased from 4 lines to 5 lines so for every 128 data bits loaded from a 32 bit wide channel , 160 bits is actually read with 16 bits thrown away .
I wonder if the successor to GDDR3/5 will support a 36 bit wide channel for ECC applications .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which is why the upcoming NVIDIA "Fermi" GPU based boards will support 4GB of ECC memory.According to the patent nVidia filed, 4GiB if RAM on the Fermi will yield about 3.2GiB of addressable memory with ECC enabled.
Instead of adding extra ECC bits, the 32 bit wide burst length is increased from 4 lines to 5 lines so for every 128 data bits loaded from a 32 bit wide channel, 160 bits is actually read with 16 bits thrown away.
I wonder if the successor to GDDR3/5 will support a 36 bit wide channel for ECC applications.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881353</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882027</id>
	<title>Re:Boinc Applications...</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1256644020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Troll? I hope that was a misclick...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Troll ?
I hope that was a misclick.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Troll?
I hope that was a misclick...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881153</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882063</id>
	<title>Re:Super computer?</title>
	<author>CODiNE</author>
	<datestamp>1256644860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah that was a US government classification that would prevent you from selling a 1 gigaflop computer to certain countries like Iran or whatever. That's why on one of their commercials they had a Power Mac being guarded by a tank.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah that was a US government classification that would prevent you from selling a 1 gigaflop computer to certain countries like Iran or whatever .
That 's why on one of their commercials they had a Power Mac being guarded by a tank .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah that was a US government classification that would prevent you from selling a 1 gigaflop computer to certain countries like Iran or whatever.
That's why on one of their commercials they had a Power Mac being guarded by a tank.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881439</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29883235</id>
	<title>Re:WIndows 7 not Vista?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256655360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Damn it!  I thought I could play Solitaire on Vista on one of these boxes</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Damn it !
I thought I could play Solitaire on Vista on one of these boxes</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Damn it!
I thought I could play Solitaire on Vista on one of these boxes</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881519</id>
	<title>Re:Hrmm</title>
	<author>zullnero</author>
	<datestamp>1256634720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Forget pets, this is going to take a 6 pack of HUMAN babies!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Forget pets , this is going to take a 6 pack of HUMAN babies !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Forget pets, this is going to take a 6 pack of HUMAN babies!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881135</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881389</id>
	<title>Re:But how can you trust the results?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256675280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A flipped bit in a floating point number can have a disproportionate affect on the outcome of calculations that rely upon it, and short of running the whole simulation a second or third time, one couldn't be confident that such an error did not occur.</p></div><p>First rule in government spending: why build one when you can have two at twice the price?<br>-<a href="http://www.imdb.com/media/rm384602624/tt0118884" title="imdb.com">Contact</a> [imdb.com]</p><p>TFA says something about "US$14,519 over five years" for one box<br>Is that cheap enough to justify buying twice what you need and running the simulation in parallel?</p><p>As an aside, the biggest problem I see is that it 'only' has 24GB of RAM.<br>In my uninformed opinion, that doesn't seem nearly enough for supercomputing purposes.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A flipped bit in a floating point number can have a disproportionate affect on the outcome of calculations that rely upon it , and short of running the whole simulation a second or third time , one could n't be confident that such an error did not occur.First rule in government spending : why build one when you can have two at twice the price ? -Contact [ imdb.com ] TFA says something about " US $ 14,519 over five years " for one boxIs that cheap enough to justify buying twice what you need and running the simulation in parallel ? As an aside , the biggest problem I see is that it 'only ' has 24GB of RAM.In my uninformed opinion , that does n't seem nearly enough for supercomputing purposes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A flipped bit in a floating point number can have a disproportionate affect on the outcome of calculations that rely upon it, and short of running the whole simulation a second or third time, one couldn't be confident that such an error did not occur.First rule in government spending: why build one when you can have two at twice the price?-Contact [imdb.com]TFA says something about "US$14,519 over five years" for one boxIs that cheap enough to justify buying twice what you need and running the simulation in parallel?As an aside, the biggest problem I see is that it 'only' has 24GB of RAM.In my uninformed opinion, that doesn't seem nearly enough for supercomputing purposes.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881585</id>
	<title>Super computer</title>
	<author>jdc18</author>
	<datestamp>1256635860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You know if every computer becomes a super computer, there wouldnt be any super computers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You know if every computer becomes a super computer , there wouldnt be any super computers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know if every computer becomes a super computer, there wouldnt be any super computers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29893527</id>
	<title>It doesn't matter have 1.1 teraflop</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256668860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>after 2 weeks my windows will run slow anyways.</p><p>[s]<br>AA</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>after 2 weeks my windows will run slow anyways .
[ s ] AA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>after 2 weeks my windows will run slow anyways.
[s]AA</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29890763</id>
	<title>Re:But how can you trust the results?</title>
	<author>kalman5</author>
	<datestamp>1256644380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Next NVIDIA GPU generation (Fermi architecture) will have more than 4GB addressable with ECC.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Next NVIDIA GPU generation ( Fermi architecture ) will have more than 4GB addressable with ECC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Next NVIDIA GPU generation (Fermi architecture) will have more than 4GB addressable with ECC.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881575</id>
	<title>Why the ancient graphics?</title>
	<author>Oblong\_Cheese</author>
	<datestamp>1256635800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why does it have such an ancient and shitty graphics card? The GeForce FX series were terrible in their day and not worth the gold in their circuits today.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why does it have such an ancient and shitty graphics card ?
The GeForce FX series were terrible in their day and not worth the gold in their circuits today .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why does it have such an ancient and shitty graphics card?
The GeForce FX series were terrible in their day and not worth the gold in their circuits today.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881437</id>
	<title>Might get my geek card revoked for this but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256676240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Doesn't the GTX 295 alone put out 1.8 TFLOPS? It can't possibly be much different in architecture to the cards in this "supercomputer"... Slap in a different BIOS and you'd have the same thing, but significantly cheaper, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't the GTX 295 alone put out 1.8 TFLOPS ?
It ca n't possibly be much different in architecture to the cards in this " supercomputer " ... Slap in a different BIOS and you 'd have the same thing , but significantly cheaper , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't the GTX 295 alone put out 1.8 TFLOPS?
It can't possibly be much different in architecture to the cards in this "supercomputer"... Slap in a different BIOS and you'd have the same thing, but significantly cheaper, right?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881947</id>
	<title>Obligatory...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256642820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Imagine a beowulf cluster of these....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine a beowulf cluster of these... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine a beowulf cluster of these....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29892541</id>
	<title>Re:But how can you trust the results?</title>
	<author>Tynin</author>
	<datestamp>1256657040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sorry, I have no knowledge of error smoothing. But your explanation made me chuckle thinking about a program monitoring itself, see's it had an error, then injects another error to smooth it out. As in the program was expecting 10, saw it output a 7, so the next iteration it puts in a 13 just to smooth it out (even though it is expecting a 10).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , I have no knowledge of error smoothing .
But your explanation made me chuckle thinking about a program monitoring itself , see 's it had an error , then injects another error to smooth it out .
As in the program was expecting 10 , saw it output a 7 , so the next iteration it puts in a 13 just to smooth it out ( even though it is expecting a 10 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, I have no knowledge of error smoothing.
But your explanation made me chuckle thinking about a program monitoring itself, see's it had an error, then injects another error to smooth it out.
As in the program was expecting 10, saw it output a 7, so the next iteration it puts in a 13 just to smooth it out (even though it is expecting a 10).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881495</id>
	<title>Re:No point running desktop Windows on this monste</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256634360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nah - with such processing power, one might actually see a Windows machine perform properly! From boot to blue screen of death in mere milliseconds! Run your malware faster than ever! See clippy dance furiously across the screen in smooth 250 fps animation!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nah - with such processing power , one might actually see a Windows machine perform properly !
From boot to blue screen of death in mere milliseconds !
Run your malware faster than ever !
See clippy dance furiously across the screen in smooth 250 fps animation !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nah - with such processing power, one might actually see a Windows machine perform properly!
From boot to blue screen of death in mere milliseconds!
Run your malware faster than ever!
See clippy dance furiously across the screen in smooth 250 fps animation!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881157</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29884733</id>
	<title>Re:wow</title>
	<author>Beardo the Bearded</author>
	<datestamp>1256662440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Technically, graphics cards are four-dimensional already, which is why they can solve these certain types of problems with such great speed. Their construction is coincidentally designed such that they solve certain types of problems very quickly.</p><p>The interesting thing about those problems is that many difficult problems in other formats can be massaged to fit into that format.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Technically , graphics cards are four-dimensional already , which is why they can solve these certain types of problems with such great speed .
Their construction is coincidentally designed such that they solve certain types of problems very quickly.The interesting thing about those problems is that many difficult problems in other formats can be massaged to fit into that format .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Technically, graphics cards are four-dimensional already, which is why they can solve these certain types of problems with such great speed.
Their construction is coincidentally designed such that they solve certain types of problems very quickly.The interesting thing about those problems is that many difficult problems in other formats can be massaged to fit into that format.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881133</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881781</id>
	<title>Now...</title>
	<author>jplopez</author>
	<datestamp>1256639520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!</htmltext>
<tokenext>... imagine a Beowulf cluster of these !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882335</id>
	<title>Re:No point running desktop Windows on this monste</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256649540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why are you all picking on Windows?</p><p>Gnome and KDE are much bigger fat cats when it comes to memory footprints.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are you all picking on Windows ? Gnome and KDE are much bigger fat cats when it comes to memory footprints .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are you all picking on Windows?Gnome and KDE are much bigger fat cats when it comes to memory footprints.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881495</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29894223</id>
	<title>Re:Super computer?</title>
	<author>Swoopy</author>
	<datestamp>1256721360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obviously, you can create a timewarp and throw it through the hole to your past self in order to be in 1993's top 250 on that list.<br>Regrettably, you'd need something topping today's #1 to do the math required in order to actually do that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obviously , you can create a timewarp and throw it through the hole to your past self in order to be in 1993 's top 250 on that list.Regrettably , you 'd need something topping today 's # 1 to do the math required in order to actually do that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obviously, you can create a timewarp and throw it through the hole to your past self in order to be in 1993's top 250 on that list.Regrettably, you'd need something topping today's #1 to do the math required in order to actually do that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881187</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881403</id>
	<title>Re:Boinc Applications...</title>
	<author>wvmarle</author>
	<datestamp>1256675460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't imagine anyone buying such a machine specifically to run SETI@Home or similar projects. If you want/need a machine like this you will have a specific use for it, as I don't think it's that speedy for most games etc - to run your projects on graphics cores you will need special software, this is useless for generic computing. And those distributed projects are set up with the idea of using spare cycles - not to buy hardware specifically for it.
</p><p>Now if you still happen to have spare time on the computer then maybe you could do a dataset or two of SETI. It will do those tasks really fast.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't imagine anyone buying such a machine specifically to run SETI @ Home or similar projects .
If you want/need a machine like this you will have a specific use for it , as I do n't think it 's that speedy for most games etc - to run your projects on graphics cores you will need special software , this is useless for generic computing .
And those distributed projects are set up with the idea of using spare cycles - not to buy hardware specifically for it .
Now if you still happen to have spare time on the computer then maybe you could do a dataset or two of SETI .
It will do those tasks really fast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't imagine anyone buying such a machine specifically to run SETI@Home or similar projects.
If you want/need a machine like this you will have a specific use for it, as I don't think it's that speedy for most games etc - to run your projects on graphics cores you will need special software, this is useless for generic computing.
And those distributed projects are set up with the idea of using spare cycles - not to buy hardware specifically for it.
Now if you still happen to have spare time on the computer then maybe you could do a dataset or two of SETI.
It will do those tasks really fast.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29886279</id>
	<title>Re:Super computer?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256669460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the truest sense of the term, none of the entries on the top500 are supercomputers. All 500 of them are superclusters.</p><p>This is all in a single node, and it's 1/37th the max power iof 500th on the list. the 500th spot on the top500 employs around 1700 CPUs, and it's unclear how many nodes it is made up of (it could be as many as ~1700, though I don't reckon it's less than ~212 (with quad-socket nodes) , though it is surely more than the 37 it would require for this thing to match its peak output. And at a teraflop, yeah, it's a single-node supercomputer, just like SGI's old Altixes (512 socket NUMA monster) were supercomputers in their own right (which were then clustered into superclusters).</p><p>Very few of the top500 superclusters are actually made up of supercomputers. OTOH, I'd say Japan's Earth Simulator 2 is the only one I can think of, and at 1200 cores (for 137 teraflops at 95\% efficiency)) it's the smallest cluster in the top 500,</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the truest sense of the term , none of the entries on the top500 are supercomputers .
All 500 of them are superclusters.This is all in a single node , and it 's 1/37th the max power iof 500th on the list .
the 500th spot on the top500 employs around 1700 CPUs , and it 's unclear how many nodes it is made up of ( it could be as many as ~ 1700 , though I do n't reckon it 's less than ~ 212 ( with quad-socket nodes ) , though it is surely more than the 37 it would require for this thing to match its peak output .
And at a teraflop , yeah , it 's a single-node supercomputer , just like SGI 's old Altixes ( 512 socket NUMA monster ) were supercomputers in their own right ( which were then clustered into superclusters ) .Very few of the top500 superclusters are actually made up of supercomputers .
OTOH , I 'd say Japan 's Earth Simulator 2 is the only one I can think of , and at 1200 cores ( for 137 teraflops at 95 \ % efficiency ) ) it 's the smallest cluster in the top 500,</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the truest sense of the term, none of the entries on the top500 are supercomputers.
All 500 of them are superclusters.This is all in a single node, and it's 1/37th the max power iof 500th on the list.
the 500th spot on the top500 employs around 1700 CPUs, and it's unclear how many nodes it is made up of (it could be as many as ~1700, though I don't reckon it's less than ~212 (with quad-socket nodes) , though it is surely more than the 37 it would require for this thing to match its peak output.
And at a teraflop, yeah, it's a single-node supercomputer, just like SGI's old Altixes (512 socket NUMA monster) were supercomputers in their own right (which were then clustered into superclusters).Very few of the top500 superclusters are actually made up of supercomputers.
OTOH, I'd say Japan's Earth Simulator 2 is the only one I can think of, and at 1200 cores (for 137 teraflops at 95\% efficiency)) it's the smallest cluster in the top 500,</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29884513</id>
	<title>Re:But how can you trust the results?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256661480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You don't mean libel you mean liable and even that is wrong.  What you really meant when you wrote "libel for" is "likely to experience".  Liability is something else.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't mean libel you mean liable and even that is wrong .
What you really meant when you wrote " libel for " is " likely to experience " .
Liability is something else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't mean libel you mean liable and even that is wrong.
What you really meant when you wrote "libel for" is "likely to experience".
Liability is something else.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29884247</id>
	<title>Forget a Space Heater</title>
	<author>aaaantoine</author>
	<datestamp>1256660340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Buy one of these things and run it 24/7, and you'll never go cold in the winter.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Buy one of these things and run it 24/7 , and you 'll never go cold in the winter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Buy one of these things and run it 24/7, and you'll never go cold in the winter.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881627</id>
	<title>Re:No point running desktop Windows on this monste</title>
	<author>Youngbull</author>
	<datestamp>1256636700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This grade of machines need Linux on them... not Windows; and Asus has been in bed with MS for some while now.</p></div><p>it has support for red hat and suse...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This grade of machines need Linux on them... not Windows ; and Asus has been in bed with MS for some while now.it has support for red hat and suse.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This grade of machines need Linux on them... not Windows; and Asus has been in bed with MS for some while now.it has support for red hat and suse...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881157</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882371</id>
	<title>Can I use this for encryption</title>
	<author>Skapare</author>
	<datestamp>1256650020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... to speed up web access on an HTTPS-only web site?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... to speed up web access on an HTTPS-only web site ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... to speed up web access on an HTTPS-only web site?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881771</id>
	<title>Just imagine a Beowulf Cluster of these! n/b</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256639280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>n/b</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>n/b</tokentext>
<sentencetext>n/b</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881407</id>
	<title>Re:But how can you trust the results?</title>
	<author>wisty</author>
	<datestamp>1256675520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If error rates are a problem, just use implicit algorithms, and maybe a bit of smoothing. (Ducks).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If error rates are a problem , just use implicit algorithms , and maybe a bit of smoothing .
( Ducks ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If error rates are a problem, just use implicit algorithms, and maybe a bit of smoothing.
(Ducks).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29886659</id>
	<title>Re:Super computer?</title>
	<author>mikael</author>
	<datestamp>1256670960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When someone applies to do supercomputing research projects, they are allocated a set number of hours, and a particular number of processors per booking. They might not all ten thousand nodes of a national supercomputer. Some projects might just need a thousand nodes. The admin's will maintain a schedule and timetable much like the batch processing days of mainframes.</p><p>This system may just have 1/37th the performance of the lowest machine on the super computer list, but it will offer more performance than a cluster of standard PC's, and take up less space. Maybe it will be used as a server. Some university departments have systems like these to run as Matlab servers, where all the image and signal processing is performed remotely.</p><p>This will be enough for a group of researchers to develop their particular simulation model, generate some preliminary results and submit an booking request to use a larger supercomputer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When someone applies to do supercomputing research projects , they are allocated a set number of hours , and a particular number of processors per booking .
They might not all ten thousand nodes of a national supercomputer .
Some projects might just need a thousand nodes .
The admin 's will maintain a schedule and timetable much like the batch processing days of mainframes.This system may just have 1/37th the performance of the lowest machine on the super computer list , but it will offer more performance than a cluster of standard PC 's , and take up less space .
Maybe it will be used as a server .
Some university departments have systems like these to run as Matlab servers , where all the image and signal processing is performed remotely.This will be enough for a group of researchers to develop their particular simulation model , generate some preliminary results and submit an booking request to use a larger supercomputer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When someone applies to do supercomputing research projects, they are allocated a set number of hours, and a particular number of processors per booking.
They might not all ten thousand nodes of a national supercomputer.
Some projects might just need a thousand nodes.
The admin's will maintain a schedule and timetable much like the batch processing days of mainframes.This system may just have 1/37th the performance of the lowest machine on the super computer list, but it will offer more performance than a cluster of standard PC's, and take up less space.
Maybe it will be used as a server.
Some university departments have systems like these to run as Matlab servers, where all the image and signal processing is performed remotely.This will be enough for a group of researchers to develop their particular simulation model, generate some preliminary results and submit an booking request to use a larger supercomputer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882489</id>
	<title>Better hope...</title>
	<author>Jason9x19</author>
	<datestamp>1256650920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...that the chipset is passively cooled!</htmltext>
<tokenext>...that the chipset is passively cooled !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...that the chipset is passively cooled!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881597</id>
	<title>Re:Super computer?</title>
	<author>SuperBigGulp</author>
	<datestamp>1256636040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;but I'm no expert here so I could well be wrong.</p><p>Welcome to Slashdot! You'll fit right it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; but I 'm no expert here so I could well be wrong.Welcome to Slashdot !
You 'll fit right it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;but I'm no expert here so I could well be wrong.Welcome to Slashdot!
You'll fit right it!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881391</id>
	<title>Re:Boinc Applications...</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1256675340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, as long as that everyman can afford $14,519 for crunching purposes...</p><p>For that price I'd build myself a real virtual reality gaming room.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , as long as that everyman can afford $ 14,519 for crunching purposes...For that price I 'd build myself a real virtual reality gaming room .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, as long as that everyman can afford $14,519 for crunching purposes...For that price I'd build myself a real virtual reality gaming room.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29886133</id>
	<title>I'd wait</title>
	<author>ThatsNotPudding</author>
	<datestamp>1256668680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>and see what the Iixians come out with.</htmltext>
<tokenext>and see what the Iixians come out with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and see what the Iixians come out with.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29885851</id>
	<title>Re:But how can you trust the results?</title>
	<author>Anonymouss Cowherd</author>
	<datestamp>1256667420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm a student at the University of Washington and once talked to a representative for Cray about using GPU's a a cheaper supercomputer and he told me that they generally have a nontrivial error rate.  The issue with using ECC memory is that the GPU's are also libel for errors within their computations, making the ECC RAM pointless.  A weird pixel in one frame of a game is no problem, but an error when performing a large simulation creates problems if the algorithm isn't designed to compensate for that noise.</p></div><p>Wouldn't that be what a salesperson from Cray might be inclined to tell you?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a student at the University of Washington and once talked to a representative for Cray about using GPU 's a a cheaper supercomputer and he told me that they generally have a nontrivial error rate .
The issue with using ECC memory is that the GPU 's are also libel for errors within their computations , making the ECC RAM pointless .
A weird pixel in one frame of a game is no problem , but an error when performing a large simulation creates problems if the algorithm is n't designed to compensate for that noise.Would n't that be what a salesperson from Cray might be inclined to tell you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a student at the University of Washington and once talked to a representative for Cray about using GPU's a a cheaper supercomputer and he told me that they generally have a nontrivial error rate.
The issue with using ECC memory is that the GPU's are also libel for errors within their computations, making the ECC RAM pointless.
A weird pixel in one frame of a game is no problem, but an error when performing a large simulation creates problems if the algorithm isn't designed to compensate for that noise.Wouldn't that be what a salesperson from Cray might be inclined to tell you?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881805</id>
	<title>Re:No point running desktop Windows on this monste</title>
	<author>Chris Snook</author>
	<datestamp>1256640060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But if you run Linux on it, you have to deal with the Nvidia drivers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But if you run Linux on it , you have to deal with the Nvidia drivers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But if you run Linux on it, you have to deal with the Nvidia drivers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29882323</id>
	<title>Re:But how can you trust the results?</title>
	<author>jstults</author>
	<datestamp>1256649420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How is parent offtopic?

The topic seems to be an error caused by a single bit flip. Most implicit algorithms do have as part of them an 'error smoothing' component, either as a preconditioner or as the whole algorithm. So an error at a single point would get smoothed out<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</htmltext>
<tokenext>How is parent offtopic ?
The topic seems to be an error caused by a single bit flip .
Most implicit algorithms do have as part of them an 'error smoothing ' component , either as a preconditioner or as the whole algorithm .
So an error at a single point would get smoothed out .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is parent offtopic?
The topic seems to be an error caused by a single bit flip.
Most implicit algorithms do have as part of them an 'error smoothing' component, either as a preconditioner or as the whole algorithm.
So an error at a single point would get smoothed out ...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29884657</id>
	<title>Re:How about non Floating Point performance ?</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1256662080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No. Actually simulations for engineering, chemistry, and physics are ALL ABOUT floating point. It's Integer performance that is nearly irrelevant.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
Actually simulations for engineering , chemistry , and physics are ALL ABOUT floating point .
It 's Integer performance that is nearly irrelevant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
Actually simulations for engineering, chemistry, and physics are ALL ABOUT floating point.
It's Integer performance that is nearly irrelevant.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29890583</id>
	<title>That is not the best you can get</title>
	<author>kalman5</author>
	<datestamp>1256643540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have on my desktop a double socket W5590 with 4 Tesla C1060. You can get one of those systems from E4 in italy. <a href="http://www.e4company.com/" title="e4company.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.e4company.com/</a> [e4company.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have on my desktop a double socket W5590 with 4 Tesla C1060 .
You can get one of those systems from E4 in italy .
http : //www.e4company.com/ [ e4company.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have on my desktop a double socket W5590 with 4 Tesla C1060.
You can get one of those systems from E4 in italy.
http://www.e4company.com/ [e4company.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881195</id>
	<title>But how can you trust the results?</title>
	<author>HalfFlat</author>
	<datestamp>1256585520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
The <a href="http://www.nvidia.com/object/product\_tesla\_c1060\_us.html" title="nvidia.com">Tesla c1060</a> [nvidia.com] processor boards sound like a very efficient way of packing in compute power, but unless they're neglecting to mention it, the 4GB of GDDR3 RAM each has on board has no error correction. Given the rates of correctable errors observed e.g. <a href="http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~bianca/papers/sigmetrics09.pdf" title="toronto.edu">here</a> [toronto.edu], I could never recommend using it for computing simulations that matter. A flipped bit in a floating point number can have a disproportionate affect on the outcome of calculations that rely upon it, and short of running the whole simulation a second or third time, one couldn't be confident that such an error did not occur.
</p><p>
Large compute-intensive simulations can take weeks, and are used to justify engineering and business decisions that involve the disposition of large amounts of money and other resources &mdash; it is important that the computational part of the process can be relied upon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Tesla c1060 [ nvidia.com ] processor boards sound like a very efficient way of packing in compute power , but unless they 're neglecting to mention it , the 4GB of GDDR3 RAM each has on board has no error correction .
Given the rates of correctable errors observed e.g .
here [ toronto.edu ] , I could never recommend using it for computing simulations that matter .
A flipped bit in a floating point number can have a disproportionate affect on the outcome of calculations that rely upon it , and short of running the whole simulation a second or third time , one could n't be confident that such an error did not occur .
Large compute-intensive simulations can take weeks , and are used to justify engineering and business decisions that involve the disposition of large amounts of money and other resources    it is important that the computational part of the process can be relied upon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
The Tesla c1060 [nvidia.com] processor boards sound like a very efficient way of packing in compute power, but unless they're neglecting to mention it, the 4GB of GDDR3 RAM each has on board has no error correction.
Given the rates of correctable errors observed e.g.
here [toronto.edu], I could never recommend using it for computing simulations that matter.
A flipped bit in a floating point number can have a disproportionate affect on the outcome of calculations that rely upon it, and short of running the whole simulation a second or third time, one couldn't be confident that such an error did not occur.
Large compute-intensive simulations can take weeks, and are used to justify engineering and business decisions that involve the disposition of large amounts of money and other resources — it is important that the computational part of the process can be relied upon.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881353</id>
	<title>Re:But how can you trust the results?</title>
	<author>bertok</author>
	<datestamp>1256674680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The <a href="http://www.nvidia.com/object/product\_tesla\_c1060\_us.html" title="nvidia.com">Tesla c1060</a> [nvidia.com] processor boards sound like a very efficient way of packing in compute power, but unless they're neglecting to mention it, the 4GB of GDDR3 RAM each has on board has no error correction. Given the rates of correctable errors observed e.g. <a href="http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~bianca/papers/sigmetrics09.pdf" title="toronto.edu">here</a> [toronto.edu], I could never recommend using it for computing simulations that matter. A flipped bit in a floating point number can have a disproportionate affect on the outcome of calculations that rely upon it, and short of running the whole simulation a second or third time, one couldn't be confident that such an error did not occur.</p><p>Large compute-intensive simulations can take weeks, and are used to justify engineering and business decisions that involve the disposition of large amounts of money and other resources &mdash; it is important that the computational part of the process can be relied upon.</p></div><p>Which is why the upcoming NVIDIA "Fermi" GPU based boards will support 4GB of ECC memory. Also, they'll have about 2 TFLOPS of single-precision power, and you can stack 4 of them in a box = 8 TFLOPS beside your desk.</p><p>I can't wait until the US government starts banning these things because they could be used by terrorists to design nuclear weapons or something. 8)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Tesla c1060 [ nvidia.com ] processor boards sound like a very efficient way of packing in compute power , but unless they 're neglecting to mention it , the 4GB of GDDR3 RAM each has on board has no error correction .
Given the rates of correctable errors observed e.g .
here [ toronto.edu ] , I could never recommend using it for computing simulations that matter .
A flipped bit in a floating point number can have a disproportionate affect on the outcome of calculations that rely upon it , and short of running the whole simulation a second or third time , one could n't be confident that such an error did not occur.Large compute-intensive simulations can take weeks , and are used to justify engineering and business decisions that involve the disposition of large amounts of money and other resources    it is important that the computational part of the process can be relied upon.Which is why the upcoming NVIDIA " Fermi " GPU based boards will support 4GB of ECC memory .
Also , they 'll have about 2 TFLOPS of single-precision power , and you can stack 4 of them in a box = 8 TFLOPS beside your desk.I ca n't wait until the US government starts banning these things because they could be used by terrorists to design nuclear weapons or something .
8 )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Tesla c1060 [nvidia.com] processor boards sound like a very efficient way of packing in compute power, but unless they're neglecting to mention it, the 4GB of GDDR3 RAM each has on board has no error correction.
Given the rates of correctable errors observed e.g.
here [toronto.edu], I could never recommend using it for computing simulations that matter.
A flipped bit in a floating point number can have a disproportionate affect on the outcome of calculations that rely upon it, and short of running the whole simulation a second or third time, one couldn't be confident that such an error did not occur.Large compute-intensive simulations can take weeks, and are used to justify engineering and business decisions that involve the disposition of large amounts of money and other resources — it is important that the computational part of the process can be relied upon.Which is why the upcoming NVIDIA "Fermi" GPU based boards will support 4GB of ECC memory.
Also, they'll have about 2 TFLOPS of single-precision power, and you can stack 4 of them in a box = 8 TFLOPS beside your desk.I can't wait until the US government starts banning these things because they could be used by terrorists to design nuclear weapons or something.
8)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881135</id>
	<title>Hrmm</title>
	<author>acehole</author>
	<datestamp>1256584620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How many pets would I have to eat to balance out the carbon footprint of this?</p><p>I've got a six-pack of kittens at the ready.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How many pets would I have to eat to balance out the carbon footprint of this ? I 've got a six-pack of kittens at the ready .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many pets would I have to eat to balance out the carbon footprint of this?I've got a six-pack of kittens at the ready.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881609</id>
	<title>can it run MATLAB?</title>
	<author>nerdyalien</author>
	<datestamp>1256636160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>nice to have powerful machines. But what about the programming end ?</p><p>More specifically, can it run MATLAB or Octave and use all the flops for computations ?</p><p>I think its a known fact that most academia use MATLAB/Octave to do model creation/testing...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>nice to have powerful machines .
But what about the programming end ? More specifically , can it run MATLAB or Octave and use all the flops for computations ? I think its a known fact that most academia use MATLAB/Octave to do model creation/testing.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nice to have powerful machines.
But what about the programming end ?More specifically, can it run MATLAB or Octave and use all the flops for computations ?I think its a known fact that most academia use MATLAB/Octave to do model creation/testing...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881411</id>
	<title>Re:But how can you trust the results?</title>
	<author>evanbd</author>
	<datestamp>1256675580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Given the relative prices of graphics cards and anything Cray sells, why not just run all computations in duplicate on two different graphics cards, and redo any that differ?  Even given the performance penalties of regular checkpoints and comparisons on top of needing twice as much hardware, it still ought to be vastly cheaper.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Given the relative prices of graphics cards and anything Cray sells , why not just run all computations in duplicate on two different graphics cards , and redo any that differ ?
Even given the performance penalties of regular checkpoints and comparisons on top of needing twice as much hardware , it still ought to be vastly cheaper .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given the relative prices of graphics cards and anything Cray sells, why not just run all computations in duplicate on two different graphics cards, and redo any that differ?
Even given the performance penalties of regular checkpoints and comparisons on top of needing twice as much hardware, it still ought to be vastly cheaper.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881307</id>
	<title>Thats not a super desktop computer idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256673840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is : <br>
<a href="http://helmer.sfe.se/" title="helmer.sfe.se">http://helmer.sfe.se/</a> [helmer.sfe.se]</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is : http : //helmer.sfe.se/ [ helmer.sfe.se ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is : 
http://helmer.sfe.se/ [helmer.sfe.se]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881425</id>
	<title>Re:Super computer?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1256675940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, saying that 37 of these boxes (or perhaps just 17), at a price of $537203 (or just $246823) can beat a system that fills a whole hall, has 129600 cores, and certainly costs a fortune, is pretty impressive, no?</p><p>But you are right. And I guess by then, the definition of "supercomputer" will have changed to &gt;1 petaflop.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , saying that 37 of these boxes ( or perhaps just 17 ) , at a price of $ 537203 ( or just $ 246823 ) can beat a system that fills a whole hall , has 129600 cores , and certainly costs a fortune , is pretty impressive , no ? But you are right .
And I guess by then , the definition of " supercomputer " will have changed to &gt; 1 petaflop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, saying that 37 of these boxes (or perhaps just 17), at a price of $537203 (or just $246823) can beat a system that fills a whole hall, has 129600 cores, and certainly costs a fortune, is pretty impressive, no?But you are right.
And I guess by then, the definition of "supercomputer" will have changed to &gt;1 petaflop.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29890573</id>
	<title>only 1.1 TFLOPS?</title>
	<author>Khyber</author>
	<datestamp>1256643480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I could get that with two 9800GTX+ cards.</p><p>Too much hardware here for too little performance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I could get that with two 9800GTX + cards.Too much hardware here for too little performance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I could get that with two 9800GTX+ cards.Too much hardware here for too little performance.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29883055</id>
	<title>Yawn</title>
	<author>sluke</author>
	<datestamp>1256654400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While this sort of machine is useful (I just built one for quantum Monte Carlo calculations 6 months ago) it is hardly news.  NVIDIA has been pushing this sort of machine since the launch of the Tesla.  In fact, they have had a parts list on their <a href="http://www.nvidia.com/object/tesla\_build\_your\_own.html" title="nvidia.com">website</a> [nvidia.com] for some time telling exactly what is needed to put together a computer with 4 C1060's.  This is not even the first commercial offering of this nature, with companies like <a href="http://www.appro.com/index.asp" title="appro.com">appro</a> [appro.com] and <a href="http://www.microway.com/whisperstation/whisperstation-tesla.html" title="microway.com">microway</a> [microway.com] having similar products for at least a year (see <a href="http://www.nvidia.com/object/tesla\_supercomputer\_wtb.html" title="nvidia.com">nvidia</a> [nvidia.com]) for a more complete list.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While this sort of machine is useful ( I just built one for quantum Monte Carlo calculations 6 months ago ) it is hardly news .
NVIDIA has been pushing this sort of machine since the launch of the Tesla .
In fact , they have had a parts list on their website [ nvidia.com ] for some time telling exactly what is needed to put together a computer with 4 C1060 's .
This is not even the first commercial offering of this nature , with companies like appro [ appro.com ] and microway [ microway.com ] having similar products for at least a year ( see nvidia [ nvidia.com ] ) for a more complete list .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While this sort of machine is useful (I just built one for quantum Monte Carlo calculations 6 months ago) it is hardly news.
NVIDIA has been pushing this sort of machine since the launch of the Tesla.
In fact, they have had a parts list on their website [nvidia.com] for some time telling exactly what is needed to put together a computer with 4 C1060's.
This is not even the first commercial offering of this nature, with companies like appro [appro.com] and microway [microway.com] having similar products for at least a year (see nvidia [nvidia.com]) for a more complete list.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881739</id>
	<title>Oh Nose</title>
	<author>BlindRobin</author>
	<datestamp>1256638860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now Microsoft has new minimum desktop specs for it's next iteration of the Windows<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now Microsoft has new minimum desktop specs for it 's next iteration of the Windows .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now Microsoft has new minimum desktop specs for it's next iteration of the Windows ...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29888175</id>
	<title>!Supercomputer</title>
	<author>Stoutlimb</author>
	<datestamp>1256677140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they can call a custom desktop PC a supercomputer, because it has specs that used to be in the range of supercomputers, then my wristwatch is also a supercomputer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they can call a custom desktop PC a supercomputer , because it has specs that used to be in the range of supercomputers , then my wristwatch is also a supercomputer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they can call a custom desktop PC a supercomputer, because it has specs that used to be in the range of supercomputers, then my wristwatch is also a supercomputer.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29883541</id>
	<title>Re:But how can you trust the results?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256657100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>LIABLE, not libel.</htmltext>
<tokenext>LIABLE , not libel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>LIABLE, not libel.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881261</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29931909</id>
	<title>Re:Now they're copying Apple too!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256920320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, but you were the genius who predicted that the iPod would be a commercial failure.</p><p>Did you ever admit you were wrong? No. People like you never do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , but you were the genius who predicted that the iPod would be a commercial failure.Did you ever admit you were wrong ?
No. People like you never do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, but you were the genius who predicted that the iPod would be a commercial failure.Did you ever admit you were wrong?
No. People like you never do.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881405</id>
	<title>Re:Boinc Applications...</title>
	<author>TubeSteak</author>
	<datestamp>1256675520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As a participant in the Milky Way and SETI projects for BOINC, I can say this development is impressive and would be a cruncher's dream come true. It would put supercomputing power in the hands of the everyman and allow applications that rely on distributed computing to take a leap forward.</p></div><p>BOINC already supports CUDA &amp; has alpha(?) support for ATI's version.<br>There's nothing stopping you from packing a tower with graphics cards and a high end PSU.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a participant in the Milky Way and SETI projects for BOINC , I can say this development is impressive and would be a cruncher 's dream come true .
It would put supercomputing power in the hands of the everyman and allow applications that rely on distributed computing to take a leap forward.BOINC already supports CUDA &amp; has alpha ( ?
) support for ATI 's version.There 's nothing stopping you from packing a tower with graphics cards and a high end PSU .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a participant in the Milky Way and SETI projects for BOINC, I can say this development is impressive and would be a cruncher's dream come true.
It would put supercomputing power in the hands of the everyman and allow applications that rely on distributed computing to take a leap forward.BOINC already supports CUDA &amp; has alpha(?
) support for ATI's version.There's nothing stopping you from packing a tower with graphics cards and a high end PSU.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881303</id>
	<title>Re:Shame on US, Chinese companies lead the way</title>
	<author>hydrolyzer</author>
	<datestamp>1256673780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I couldnt really care less who the economic super power is, but nVidia is an american company is it not? I would consider having a chinese company make a product from american parts a nice and balanced economic system, rather then an american company making things from american parts. I for one, welcome our new multicultural overlords.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I couldnt really care less who the economic super power is , but nVidia is an american company is it not ?
I would consider having a chinese company make a product from american parts a nice and balanced economic system , rather then an american company making things from american parts .
I for one , welcome our new multicultural overlords .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I couldnt really care less who the economic super power is, but nVidia is an american company is it not?
I would consider having a chinese company make a product from american parts a nice and balanced economic system, rather then an american company making things from american parts.
I for one, welcome our new multicultural overlords.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_27_0349239.29881245</parent>
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