<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_26_1517242</id>
	<title>"2012" a Miscalculation; Actual Calendar Ends 2220</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1256583420000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://aarskeveratzonnetdotnl/" rel="nofollow">boombaard</a> writes <i>"News is spreading quickly here that scientists writing in a  popular science periodical (Dutch)  have <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&amp;sl=nl&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.natutech.nl\%2F00\%2Fnt\%2Fnl\%2F47\%2Fartikel\%2F26050\%2FBalen\%3A\_\%25272012\%2527\_is\_pas\_over\_twee\_eeuwen.html">debunked the 2012 date</a> (google translation linked) featuring so prominently in doomsday predictions/speculation across the web.
On 2012-12-21, the sun will appear where you would normally be able to see the 'galactic equator' of the Milky Way; an occurrence deemed special because it happens 'only' once every 25.800 years, on the winter solstice. However, even if you ignore the fact that there is no actual galactic equator, just an observed one, and that the visual effect is pretty much the same for an entire decade surrounding that date, there are major problems with the way the Maya Calendar is being read by doomsday prophets."</i> I wonder what Amazon's return policy on a box full of <em>3 doomsday wolves</em> shirts is?</htmltext>
<tokenext>boombaard writes " News is spreading quickly here that scientists writing in a popular science periodical ( Dutch ) have debunked the 2012 date ( google translation linked ) featuring so prominently in doomsday predictions/speculation across the web .
On 2012-12-21 , the sun will appear where you would normally be able to see the 'galactic equator ' of the Milky Way ; an occurrence deemed special because it happens 'only ' once every 25.800 years , on the winter solstice .
However , even if you ignore the fact that there is no actual galactic equator , just an observed one , and that the visual effect is pretty much the same for an entire decade surrounding that date , there are major problems with the way the Maya Calendar is being read by doomsday prophets .
" I wonder what Amazon 's return policy on a box full of 3 doomsday wolves shirts is ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>boombaard writes "News is spreading quickly here that scientists writing in a  popular science periodical (Dutch)  have debunked the 2012 date (google translation linked) featuring so prominently in doomsday predictions/speculation across the web.
On 2012-12-21, the sun will appear where you would normally be able to see the 'galactic equator' of the Milky Way; an occurrence deemed special because it happens 'only' once every 25.800 years, on the winter solstice.
However, even if you ignore the fact that there is no actual galactic equator, just an observed one, and that the visual effect is pretty much the same for an entire decade surrounding that date, there are major problems with the way the Maya Calendar is being read by doomsday prophets.
" I wonder what Amazon's return policy on a box full of 3 doomsday wolves shirts is?</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876163</id>
	<title>Re:2220?</title>
	<author>c6gunner</author>
	<datestamp>1256589780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd like to think that the human race will learn to be a bit more rational over the next 200 years.  There might still be a couple nuts pushing this stuff if we haven't managed to cure mental illness, but Hopefully we won't have to put up with it being pimped via Hollywood movies and completely credulous news segments.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to think that the human race will learn to be a bit more rational over the next 200 years .
There might still be a couple nuts pushing this stuff if we have n't managed to cure mental illness , but Hopefully we wo n't have to put up with it being pimped via Hollywood movies and completely credulous news segments .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to think that the human race will learn to be a bit more rational over the next 200 years.
There might still be a couple nuts pushing this stuff if we haven't managed to cure mental illness, but Hopefully we won't have to put up with it being pimped via Hollywood movies and completely credulous news segments.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29884051</id>
	<title>more confusion than anything</title>
	<author>marleyboy</author>
	<datestamp>1256659500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The arguments posed in this thread are amusing at best, confused at worst.  Perhaps the thing we need to learn collectively might be that our culture's perceptions on ourselves, the world and the universe are flawed.  Only in the culture that has emerged in the past one hundred years do we consider 'civilized' society one where it's acceptable to manufacture consent, to use the science of psychology against each other in marketing and media, that war and violence are acceptable ways of conflict resolution.  Only in this culture do we think that 'it's someone else's problem, they can deal with it' is acceptable.  This separation of selves may have been necessary, but it's up to each one of us to do the internal defragmentation and recoding of our own 'programs'.</p><p>2220?  Seriously, anyone who has watched the fast pace of evolution in computer technology should be able to step back and see the parallel ratcheting up in pace in other fields, like pharmaceuticals, finance, space exploration and environmental studies.  Everything is on a schedule.  Anyone who can't see this is likely in denial.  There's certainly a lot of fear spread about the Long Count date.</p><p>I don't know, but it seems to me that the selfishness, greed and lack of regard for the environment we inhabit is something that cannot be sustained by the planet, and even society in general.  The manipulation and disenfranchisement of the Other has reached epic proportions that have never been seen before in all of history. We are literally tearing each other apart.  And people have come to believe that Nature is flawed, forgetting that humans are an intrinsic part of nature.  Ridiculous ideas like putting mirrors in space to reflect light from the sun away from earth only serve to illuminate the collective darkness some seem to want to sustain.  The tipping point we stand at today is one of responsibility.  What will we chose to not stand for?  Fate is something we each hold in our own hands.</p><p>The Mayans weren't counting days.  They were counting something different.  That idea is going to be foreign to anyone who thinks days are nothing but a linear sequence.  I think anyone will agree that today's Gregorian calendar is more of a financial calendar.  I see the Mayan's tzol'kin as more of a space-weather prediction system.  Just because we're only now discovering the evidential existence of space weather doesn't mean that ancient civilizations didn't have their own unique ways and frames of understanding these concepts.</p><p>One of the best introductions I've found to the Mayan Calendars is Ian Xel Lungold's presentation called The Mayan Calendar Comes North.<br><a href="http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8689261981090121097" title="google.ca" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8689261981090121097</a> [google.ca]</p><p>The most important thing any seeker can remember, whether they be a mystic or informational, is that too many journalists screw up the story.  The only way to cut through the chaff is to feel one's way forwards.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The arguments posed in this thread are amusing at best , confused at worst .
Perhaps the thing we need to learn collectively might be that our culture 's perceptions on ourselves , the world and the universe are flawed .
Only in the culture that has emerged in the past one hundred years do we consider 'civilized ' society one where it 's acceptable to manufacture consent , to use the science of psychology against each other in marketing and media , that war and violence are acceptable ways of conflict resolution .
Only in this culture do we think that 'it 's someone else 's problem , they can deal with it ' is acceptable .
This separation of selves may have been necessary , but it 's up to each one of us to do the internal defragmentation and recoding of our own 'programs'.2220 ?
Seriously , anyone who has watched the fast pace of evolution in computer technology should be able to step back and see the parallel ratcheting up in pace in other fields , like pharmaceuticals , finance , space exploration and environmental studies .
Everything is on a schedule .
Anyone who ca n't see this is likely in denial .
There 's certainly a lot of fear spread about the Long Count date.I do n't know , but it seems to me that the selfishness , greed and lack of regard for the environment we inhabit is something that can not be sustained by the planet , and even society in general .
The manipulation and disenfranchisement of the Other has reached epic proportions that have never been seen before in all of history .
We are literally tearing each other apart .
And people have come to believe that Nature is flawed , forgetting that humans are an intrinsic part of nature .
Ridiculous ideas like putting mirrors in space to reflect light from the sun away from earth only serve to illuminate the collective darkness some seem to want to sustain .
The tipping point we stand at today is one of responsibility .
What will we chose to not stand for ?
Fate is something we each hold in our own hands.The Mayans were n't counting days .
They were counting something different .
That idea is going to be foreign to anyone who thinks days are nothing but a linear sequence .
I think anyone will agree that today 's Gregorian calendar is more of a financial calendar .
I see the Mayan 's tzol'kin as more of a space-weather prediction system .
Just because we 're only now discovering the evidential existence of space weather does n't mean that ancient civilizations did n't have their own unique ways and frames of understanding these concepts.One of the best introductions I 've found to the Mayan Calendars is Ian Xel Lungold 's presentation called The Mayan Calendar Comes North.http : //video.google.ca/videoplay ? docid = -8689261981090121097 [ google.ca ] The most important thing any seeker can remember , whether they be a mystic or informational , is that too many journalists screw up the story .
The only way to cut through the chaff is to feel one 's way forwards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The arguments posed in this thread are amusing at best, confused at worst.
Perhaps the thing we need to learn collectively might be that our culture's perceptions on ourselves, the world and the universe are flawed.
Only in the culture that has emerged in the past one hundred years do we consider 'civilized' society one where it's acceptable to manufacture consent, to use the science of psychology against each other in marketing and media, that war and violence are acceptable ways of conflict resolution.
Only in this culture do we think that 'it's someone else's problem, they can deal with it' is acceptable.
This separation of selves may have been necessary, but it's up to each one of us to do the internal defragmentation and recoding of our own 'programs'.2220?
Seriously, anyone who has watched the fast pace of evolution in computer technology should be able to step back and see the parallel ratcheting up in pace in other fields, like pharmaceuticals, finance, space exploration and environmental studies.
Everything is on a schedule.
Anyone who can't see this is likely in denial.
There's certainly a lot of fear spread about the Long Count date.I don't know, but it seems to me that the selfishness, greed and lack of regard for the environment we inhabit is something that cannot be sustained by the planet, and even society in general.
The manipulation and disenfranchisement of the Other has reached epic proportions that have never been seen before in all of history.
We are literally tearing each other apart.
And people have come to believe that Nature is flawed, forgetting that humans are an intrinsic part of nature.
Ridiculous ideas like putting mirrors in space to reflect light from the sun away from earth only serve to illuminate the collective darkness some seem to want to sustain.
The tipping point we stand at today is one of responsibility.
What will we chose to not stand for?
Fate is something we each hold in our own hands.The Mayans weren't counting days.
They were counting something different.
That idea is going to be foreign to anyone who thinks days are nothing but a linear sequence.
I think anyone will agree that today's Gregorian calendar is more of a financial calendar.
I see the Mayan's tzol'kin as more of a space-weather prediction system.
Just because we're only now discovering the evidential existence of space weather doesn't mean that ancient civilizations didn't have their own unique ways and frames of understanding these concepts.One of the best introductions I've found to the Mayan Calendars is Ian Xel Lungold's presentation called The Mayan Calendar Comes North.http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8689261981090121097 [google.ca]The most important thing any seeker can remember, whether they be a mystic or informational, is that too many journalists screw up the story.
The only way to cut through the chaff is to feel one's way forwards.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876593</id>
	<title>Re:How do you debunk a myth?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256548560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Easy! MYTHBUSTERS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Easy !
MYTHBUSTERS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Easy!
MYTHBUSTERS.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29878219</id>
	<title>The last cycle.</title>
	<author>Melibeus</author>
	<datestamp>1256554980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Mayans have no idea of scale, pah! cycles of only 3000 odd years!<br>The Abrahamic religions with their piddling 6-8000 year timescales are also damn narrow thinkers.</p><p>Now, according to the Hindu teachers we're in Kali Yuga. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali\_Yuga<br>This is the last of 4 cycles, the one of dissolution and degeneration. (They've got the mood of the time right.)<br>Hurry and get your things in order! There's only some 427000 years or so left!</p><p>I admire a belief system that has a long view of history...still nowhere near geological timescales though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Mayans have no idea of scale , pah !
cycles of only 3000 odd years ! The Abrahamic religions with their piddling 6-8000 year timescales are also damn narrow thinkers.Now , according to the Hindu teachers we 're in Kali Yuga .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali \ _YugaThis is the last of 4 cycles , the one of dissolution and degeneration .
( They 've got the mood of the time right .
) Hurry and get your things in order !
There 's only some 427000 years or so left ! I admire a belief system that has a long view of history...still nowhere near geological timescales though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Mayans have no idea of scale, pah!
cycles of only 3000 odd years!The Abrahamic religions with their piddling 6-8000 year timescales are also damn narrow thinkers.Now, according to the Hindu teachers we're in Kali Yuga.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali\_YugaThis is the last of 4 cycles, the one of dissolution and degeneration.
(They've got the mood of the time right.
)Hurry and get your things in order!
There's only some 427000 years or so left!I admire a belief system that has a long view of history...still nowhere near geological timescales though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876007</id>
	<title>Re:How do you debunk a myth?</title>
	<author>jbezorg</author>
	<datestamp>1256588940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In short, you can't reason someone out of something they were not reasoned into.</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... that approach can run into problems with myths and religious beliefs "No, it DID happen, but it was a SPIRITUAL end to the world"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>That's when you make the sign of the Devil and tell them: "Glad to see you're still here. I'd like to be the first to officially welcome you to the team. I always enjoyed your work."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In short , you ca n't reason someone out of something they were not reasoned into .
... that approach can run into problems with myths and religious beliefs " No , it DID happen , but it was a SPIRITUAL end to the world " ...That 's when you make the sign of the Devil and tell them : " Glad to see you 're still here .
I 'd like to be the first to officially welcome you to the team .
I always enjoyed your work .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In short, you can't reason someone out of something they were not reasoned into.
... that approach can run into problems with myths and religious beliefs "No, it DID happen, but it was a SPIRITUAL end to the world" ...That's when you make the sign of the Devil and tell them: "Glad to see you're still here.
I'd like to be the first to officially welcome you to the team.
I always enjoyed your work.
"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877441</id>
	<title>Everyone else is wrong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256551740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah, finally someone looks at the same thing everyone else has looked at for quite a while and proclaims their analysis to be wrong.</p><p>Maybe we should get this group to look at Cancer too?  You think?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah , finally someone looks at the same thing everyone else has looked at for quite a while and proclaims their analysis to be wrong.Maybe we should get this group to look at Cancer too ?
You think ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah, finally someone looks at the same thing everyone else has looked at for quite a while and proclaims their analysis to be wrong.Maybe we should get this group to look at Cancer too?
You think?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29878769</id>
	<title>Too bad</title>
	<author>Luke Wilson</author>
	<datestamp>1256558580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The reason that everyone got so excited about the Mayan end-date is that it is a major culture's doomsday prediction that is <b>testable in our lifetime</b>. In the Jewish tradition, the messiah is supposed to come in the year 6000 AM and rule for another thousand years until the year 7000. Thus the world lives for a cosmic week ending with a sort of cosmic sabbath of messianic reign. Now that would be a nice prediction to test, unfortunately the year 6000 in the Jewish calendar is about 2240 AD. So just like all the people before us, we won't be able to see whether anything happens or not. Here we had a prediction that was to mature in a couple of years, and these spoil sports had to ruin our fun. Of course doomsday predictions are only fun when they don't come true, so seeing when the ice caps finally melt or dollar collapses doesn't have much of a pay off when you're eventually right.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason that everyone got so excited about the Mayan end-date is that it is a major culture 's doomsday prediction that is testable in our lifetime .
In the Jewish tradition , the messiah is supposed to come in the year 6000 AM and rule for another thousand years until the year 7000 .
Thus the world lives for a cosmic week ending with a sort of cosmic sabbath of messianic reign .
Now that would be a nice prediction to test , unfortunately the year 6000 in the Jewish calendar is about 2240 AD .
So just like all the people before us , we wo n't be able to see whether anything happens or not .
Here we had a prediction that was to mature in a couple of years , and these spoil sports had to ruin our fun .
Of course doomsday predictions are only fun when they do n't come true , so seeing when the ice caps finally melt or dollar collapses does n't have much of a pay off when you 're eventually right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason that everyone got so excited about the Mayan end-date is that it is a major culture's doomsday prediction that is testable in our lifetime.
In the Jewish tradition, the messiah is supposed to come in the year 6000 AM and rule for another thousand years until the year 7000.
Thus the world lives for a cosmic week ending with a sort of cosmic sabbath of messianic reign.
Now that would be a nice prediction to test, unfortunately the year 6000 in the Jewish calendar is about 2240 AD.
So just like all the people before us, we won't be able to see whether anything happens or not.
Here we had a prediction that was to mature in a couple of years, and these spoil sports had to ruin our fun.
Of course doomsday predictions are only fun when they don't come true, so seeing when the ice caps finally melt or dollar collapses doesn't have much of a pay off when you're eventually right.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876289</id>
	<title>SHHH! Keep quiet!</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1256590380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The sooner the loonies panic, the sooner they will commit ceremonial suicide! This was our unique chance to finally get rid of them! We were so close! And you <em>had</em> to extend it to 2220??<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The sooner the loonies panic , the sooner they will commit ceremonial suicide !
This was our unique chance to finally get rid of them !
We were so close !
And you had to extend it to 2220 ? ?
: (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The sooner the loonies panic, the sooner they will commit ceremonial suicide!
This was our unique chance to finally get rid of them!
We were so close!
And you had to extend it to 2220??
:(</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875963</id>
	<title>My Cuteoverload.com calendar ends next year!</title>
	<author>Kenja</author>
	<datestamp>1256588700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Clearly, the end is near. And death shall arrive with beepable noses!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Clearly , the end is near .
And death shall arrive with beepable noses !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clearly, the end is near.
And death shall arrive with beepable noses!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877009</id>
	<title>Re:Date divider</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256550000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>25.800 mean 25800.  Your locale is wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>25.800 mean 25800 .
Your locale is wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>25.800 mean 25800.
Your locale is wrong.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876089</id>
	<title>obvious answer to why people made a big deal</title>
	<author>Dan667</author>
	<datestamp>1256589300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now they can throw "we are not blowing up anymore" parties.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now they can throw " we are not blowing up anymore " parties .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now they can throw "we are not blowing up anymore" parties.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29882079</id>
	<title>Re:My favorite thing about the 2012ers...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256644980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The Mayans actually had dates carved into stylae which took place long, long after 2012. For example:</p><p><div class="quote"><p> If the completion date of that piktun--13 October 4772--were to be written out in Long Count notation, it could be represented as 1.0.0.0.0.0. The 80th CR anniversary date, eight days later, would be 1.0.0.0.0.8  5 Lamat 1 Mol.</p></div></div><p>Would that be kinda like IPv8 addressing?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Mayans actually had dates carved into stylae which took place long , long after 2012 .
For example : If the completion date of that piktun--13 October 4772--were to be written out in Long Count notation , it could be represented as 1.0.0.0.0.0 .
The 80th CR anniversary date , eight days later , would be 1.0.0.0.0.8 5 Lamat 1 Mol.Would that be kinda like IPv8 addressing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Mayans actually had dates carved into stylae which took place long, long after 2012.
For example: If the completion date of that piktun--13 October 4772--were to be written out in Long Count notation, it could be represented as 1.0.0.0.0.0.
The 80th CR anniversary date, eight days later, would be 1.0.0.0.0.8  5 Lamat 1 Mol.Would that be kinda like IPv8 addressing?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29882553</id>
	<title>What a bunch of rubbish</title>
	<author>spxZA</author>
	<datestamp>1256651280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everyone here knows that the world will end on 19 January 2038.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone here knows that the world will end on 19 January 2038 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone here knows that the world will end on 19 January 2038.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29880013</id>
	<title>Re:Its never going to stop..</title>
	<author>Xyrus</author>
	<datestamp>1256568600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Scared me there for a second. I accidentally spilled some spaghetti on my lap and I thought His Noodliness was bringing about the end of times. May his meaty balls bless us with his sauce, Ramen.</p><p>~X~</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Scared me there for a second .
I accidentally spilled some spaghetti on my lap and I thought His Noodliness was bringing about the end of times .
May his meaty balls bless us with his sauce , Ramen. ~ X ~</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Scared me there for a second.
I accidentally spilled some spaghetti on my lap and I thought His Noodliness was bringing about the end of times.
May his meaty balls bless us with his sauce, Ramen.~X~</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29878307</id>
	<title>Re:From the virgin geeks - Thanks a lot!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256555400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can imagine the geek that found out that the date was wrong: "Mmm. Either I can have sex for the first time, or I can tell the whole world they are wrong."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can imagine the geek that found out that the date was wrong : " Mmm .
Either I can have sex for the first time , or I can tell the whole world they are wrong .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can imagine the geek that found out that the date was wrong: "Mmm.
Either I can have sex for the first time, or I can tell the whole world they are wrong.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875677</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29879661</id>
	<title>Damn it!</title>
	<author>consumer\_whore</author>
	<datestamp>1256565000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>They'll still being going on about this non-sense for years.

I was looking forward to nothing happening, so in 2013 they could finally shut up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 'll still being going on about this non-sense for years .
I was looking forward to nothing happening , so in 2013 they could finally shut up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They'll still being going on about this non-sense for years.
I was looking forward to nothing happening, so in 2013 they could finally shut up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29879153</id>
	<title>Darn</title>
	<author>KingTank</author>
	<datestamp>1256561160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Darn, I guess I have to come out of my early retirement, at age 35.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Darn , I guess I have to come out of my early retirement , at age 35 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Darn, I guess I have to come out of my early retirement, at age 35.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877077</id>
	<title>Oh Noez</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256550300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OH NOEZ! But I already ordered the 2012 doomsday t-shirts and started production on multiple big budget hollywood films<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OH NOEZ !
But I already ordered the 2012 doomsday t-shirts and started production on multiple big budget hollywood films : - (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OH NOEZ!
But I already ordered the 2012 doomsday t-shirts and started production on multiple big budget hollywood films :-(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875643</id>
	<title>great</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256587200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>now we are gonna get another terrible movie, and its gonna be called... "2020"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>now we are gon na get another terrible movie , and its gon na be called... " 2020 "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>now we are gonna get another terrible movie, and its gonna be called... "2020"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29878283</id>
	<title>That gives us room for 200+ years of suck cubs bas</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1256555280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That gives us room for 200+ years of suck cubs baseball.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That gives us room for 200 + years of suck cubs baseball .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That gives us room for 200+ years of suck cubs baseball.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876145</id>
	<title>no need for fright if your spirit's in the light</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256589540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>unprecedented evile is fixing to have its butt displaced.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>unprecedented evile is fixing to have its butt displaced .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>unprecedented evile is fixing to have its butt displaced.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875689</id>
	<title>selling selling... giving away!</title>
	<author>Fri13</author>
	<datestamp>1256587440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>SELL YOUR STOCK SHARES!!! END IS HERE!</p><p>No, sorry. Earth is just 6000 thousand year old so there is no prophesy what means no problem... but they still wants your money so give it away and sell your house, car and all property!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>SELL YOUR STOCK SHARES ! ! !
END IS HERE ! No , sorry .
Earth is just 6000 thousand year old so there is no prophesy what means no problem... but they still wants your money so give it away and sell your house , car and all property !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SELL YOUR STOCK SHARES!!!
END IS HERE!No, sorry.
Earth is just 6000 thousand year old so there is no prophesy what means no problem... but they still wants your money so give it away and sell your house, car and all property!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29882963</id>
	<title>Just goes to show</title>
	<author>SuiteSisterMary</author>
	<datestamp>1256653920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just goes to show, no matter how big you make your counter, no matter how completely out of spec it would have to be for that counter to roll over, somebody will, eventually, manage to roll it over.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just goes to show , no matter how big you make your counter , no matter how completely out of spec it would have to be for that counter to roll over , somebody will , eventually , manage to roll it over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just goes to show, no matter how big you make your counter, no matter how completely out of spec it would have to be for that counter to roll over, somebody will, eventually, manage to roll it over.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29880643</id>
	<title>Wait...</title>
	<author>DavMz</author>
	<datestamp>1256576340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That means I do have to care about my retirement plans after all?!? oh sh..!</htmltext>
<tokenext>That means I do have to care about my retirement plans after all ? ! ?
oh sh.. !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That means I do have to care about my retirement plans after all?!?
oh sh..!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876575</id>
	<title>Re:2220?</title>
	<author>stainless-steel-vash</author>
	<datestamp>1256548440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But of course...they're already remaking everything imaginable.<br>It will be the remake of 2012.</p><p>"2012 II, this time it's for real!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But of course...they 're already remaking everything imaginable.It will be the remake of 2012 .
" 2012 II , this time it 's for real !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But of course...they're already remaking everything imaginable.It will be the remake of 2012.
"2012 II, this time it's for real!
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875633</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875699</id>
	<title>Google Translate</title>
	<author>auntieNeo</author>
	<datestamp>1256587500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does anyone know Dutch and have the time to submit better translations? At least for maybe the first few sentences. I want to see if this Google Translate thing actually works.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone know Dutch and have the time to submit better translations ?
At least for maybe the first few sentences .
I want to see if this Google Translate thing actually works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone know Dutch and have the time to submit better translations?
At least for maybe the first few sentences.
I want to see if this Google Translate thing actually works.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877011</id>
	<title>The science of bullshit</title>
	<author>spaceyhackerlady</author>
	<datestamp>1256550000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The only science here is bullshit.

</p><p>They can't even get basic facts right. The so-called "alignment" is 6 degrees off, and happens twice a year.

</p><p>The last rollover of a b'akt'un cycle was in 1618. Did anybody notice?

</p><p>...laura</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only science here is bullshit .
They ca n't even get basic facts right .
The so-called " alignment " is 6 degrees off , and happens twice a year .
The last rollover of a b'akt'un cycle was in 1618 .
Did anybody notice ?
...laura</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only science here is bullshit.
They can't even get basic facts right.
The so-called "alignment" is 6 degrees off, and happens twice a year.
The last rollover of a b'akt'un cycle was in 1618.
Did anybody notice?
...laura</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876599</id>
	<title>Re:Oh thats good news</title>
	<author>EvanED</author>
	<datestamp>1256548560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait, why's that good news? Why bother to pay it off if the world's just going to end?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait , why 's that good news ?
Why bother to pay it off if the world 's just going to end ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait, why's that good news?
Why bother to pay it off if the world's just going to end?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875843</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29886235</id>
	<title>tell that to the leader of guatemalan high priests</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256669160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i cant believe all the ignorant fucktards are here<br>the mayan calendar is accurate and its proven by its synchronicity of several astronomical cycles</p><p>the winter solstice of 2012 is the correct one PERIOD</p><p>buddha, jesus, kalki/vishnu,daijal,quetzalcoatl,kukulcan,hermes,thoth,ningishizzda,fu xi,pahana,viracocha,etc... THE RETURN</p><p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw0HXgt6dcM&amp;feature=related</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i cant believe all the ignorant fucktards are herethe mayan calendar is accurate and its proven by its synchronicity of several astronomical cyclesthe winter solstice of 2012 is the correct one PERIODbuddha , jesus , kalki/vishnu,daijal,quetzalcoatl,kukulcan,hermes,thoth,ningishizzda,fu xi,pahana,viracocha,etc... THE RETURNhttp : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = Dw0HXgt6dcM&amp;feature = related</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i cant believe all the ignorant fucktards are herethe mayan calendar is accurate and its proven by its synchronicity of several astronomical cyclesthe winter solstice of 2012 is the correct one PERIODbuddha, jesus, kalki/vishnu,daijal,quetzalcoatl,kukulcan,hermes,thoth,ningishizzda,fu xi,pahana,viracocha,etc... THE RETURNhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw0HXgt6dcM&amp;feature=related</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875719</id>
	<title>Slashdotted link</title>
	<author>Kemanorel</author>
	<datestamp>1256587500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The original site that the Google translate link is directing to seems to be borked.  Does anyone have any other links to throw out?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The original site that the Google translate link is directing to seems to be borked .
Does anyone have any other links to throw out ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The original site that the Google translate link is directing to seems to be borked.
Does anyone have any other links to throw out?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29878333</id>
	<title>Are their theories on human sacrifice still OK?</title>
	<author>RexDevious</author>
	<datestamp>1256555580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't want all you slashdotters debunking the one thing I know about how to end a drought if you happen to have a virgin and a volcano handy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't want all you slashdotters debunking the one thing I know about how to end a drought if you happen to have a virgin and a volcano handy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't want all you slashdotters debunking the one thing I know about how to end a drought if you happen to have a virgin and a volcano handy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875729</id>
	<title>Date divider</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256587500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Every 25.8 years?  That doesn't seem so spectacular.  All we have to do is add 25.8 to the last doomsday and we'll know for certain.  Did the last doomsday happen in 1994 or 1986?  I don't remember either being particularly bad, except maybe for the music.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Every 25.8 years ?
That does n't seem so spectacular .
All we have to do is add 25.8 to the last doomsday and we 'll know for certain .
Did the last doomsday happen in 1994 or 1986 ?
I do n't remember either being particularly bad , except maybe for the music .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every 25.8 years?
That doesn't seem so spectacular.
All we have to do is add 25.8 to the last doomsday and we'll know for certain.
Did the last doomsday happen in 1994 or 1986?
I don't remember either being particularly bad, except maybe for the music.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29891501</id>
	<title>My wife and I...</title>
	<author>PortHaven</author>
	<datestamp>1256648340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are so disappointed. We were so looking forward to the end of the world!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are so disappointed .
We were so looking forward to the end of the world !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are so disappointed.
We were so looking forward to the end of the world!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877059</id>
	<title>When they tell you to stay calm...</title>
	<author>Flowstone</author>
	<datestamp>1256550180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thats when you really panic! aaaaarghhh!! 2012 has to be real now! If only they just kept saying it was 2012! They've doomed us all!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thats when you really panic !
aaaaarghhh ! ! 2012 has to be real now !
If only they just kept saying it was 2012 !
They 've doomed us all !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thats when you really panic!
aaaaarghhh!! 2012 has to be real now!
If only they just kept saying it was 2012!
They've doomed us all!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875797</id>
	<title>My favorite thing about the 2012ers...</title>
	<author>FlyingSquidStudios</author>
	<datestamp>1256587920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Mayans actually had dates carved into stylae which took place long, long after 2012. For example:<p><div class="quote"><p>For example, on the west panel at the Temple of Inscriptions in Palenque, a section of the text projects into the future to the 80th Calendar Round (CR) 'anniversary' of the famous Palenque ruler K'inich Janaab' Pakal's accession to the throne (Pakal's accession occurred on a Calendar Round date 5 Lamat 1 Mol, at Long Count 9.9.2.4.8 equivalent to 27 July 615 CE).[12] It does this by commencing with Pakal's birthdate 9.8.9.13.0  8 Ajaw 13 Pop (24 March 603 CE) and adding to it the Distance Number 10.11.10.5.8.[13] This calculation arrives at the 80th Calendar Round since his accession, a day that also has a CR date of 5 Lamat 1 Mol, but which lies over 4,000 years in the future from Pakal's time--the day 21 October in the year 4772. The inscription notes that this day would fall eight days after the completion of the 1st piktun [since the creation or zero date of the Long Count system], where the piktun is the next-highest order above the b'ak'tun in the Long Count. If the completion date of that piktun--13 October 4772--were to be written out in Long Count notation, it could be represented as 1.0.0.0.0.0. The 80th CR anniversary date, eight days later, would be 1.0.0.0.0.8  5 Lamat 1 Mol.</p></div><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican\_Long\_Count\_calendar#2012\_and\_the\_Long\_Count" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican\_Long\_Count\_calendar#2012\_and\_the\_Long\_Count</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Mayans actually had dates carved into stylae which took place long , long after 2012 .
For example : For example , on the west panel at the Temple of Inscriptions in Palenque , a section of the text projects into the future to the 80th Calendar Round ( CR ) 'anniversary ' of the famous Palenque ruler K'inich Janaab ' Pakal 's accession to the throne ( Pakal 's accession occurred on a Calendar Round date 5 Lamat 1 Mol , at Long Count 9.9.2.4.8 equivalent to 27 July 615 CE ) .
[ 12 ] It does this by commencing with Pakal 's birthdate 9.8.9.13.0 8 Ajaw 13 Pop ( 24 March 603 CE ) and adding to it the Distance Number 10.11.10.5.8 .
[ 13 ] This calculation arrives at the 80th Calendar Round since his accession , a day that also has a CR date of 5 Lamat 1 Mol , but which lies over 4,000 years in the future from Pakal 's time--the day 21 October in the year 4772 .
The inscription notes that this day would fall eight days after the completion of the 1st piktun [ since the creation or zero date of the Long Count system ] , where the piktun is the next-highest order above the b'ak'tun in the Long Count .
If the completion date of that piktun--13 October 4772--were to be written out in Long Count notation , it could be represented as 1.0.0.0.0.0 .
The 80th CR anniversary date , eight days later , would be 1.0.0.0.0.8 5 Lamat 1 Mol .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican \ _Long \ _Count \ _calendar # 2012 \ _and \ _the \ _Long \ _Count [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Mayans actually had dates carved into stylae which took place long, long after 2012.
For example:For example, on the west panel at the Temple of Inscriptions in Palenque, a section of the text projects into the future to the 80th Calendar Round (CR) 'anniversary' of the famous Palenque ruler K'inich Janaab' Pakal's accession to the throne (Pakal's accession occurred on a Calendar Round date 5 Lamat 1 Mol, at Long Count 9.9.2.4.8 equivalent to 27 July 615 CE).
[12] It does this by commencing with Pakal's birthdate 9.8.9.13.0  8 Ajaw 13 Pop (24 March 603 CE) and adding to it the Distance Number 10.11.10.5.8.
[13] This calculation arrives at the 80th Calendar Round since his accession, a day that also has a CR date of 5 Lamat 1 Mol, but which lies over 4,000 years in the future from Pakal's time--the day 21 October in the year 4772.
The inscription notes that this day would fall eight days after the completion of the 1st piktun [since the creation or zero date of the Long Count system], where the piktun is the next-highest order above the b'ak'tun in the Long Count.
If the completion date of that piktun--13 October 4772--were to be written out in Long Count notation, it could be represented as 1.0.0.0.0.0.
The 80th CR anniversary date, eight days later, would be 1.0.0.0.0.8  5 Lamat 1 Mol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican\_Long\_Count\_calendar#2012\_and\_the\_Long\_Count [wikipedia.org]
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876653</id>
	<title>Re:Amateurs</title>
	<author>Minwee</author>
	<datestamp>1256548800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The Mayans were amateurs when it comes to doomsday calendars. We have a doomsday once every 365 days (except on leap years) when our calendar hits December 31.</p></div></blockquote><p>If the Mayans had Windows, they would know that Doomsday happens every seven days, right after Monday.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Mayans were amateurs when it comes to doomsday calendars .
We have a doomsday once every 365 days ( except on leap years ) when our calendar hits December 31.If the Mayans had Windows , they would know that Doomsday happens every seven days , right after Monday .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Mayans were amateurs when it comes to doomsday calendars.
We have a doomsday once every 365 days (except on leap years) when our calendar hits December 31.If the Mayans had Windows, they would know that Doomsday happens every seven days, right after Monday.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875743</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875701</id>
	<title>Revised JoCo lyrics?</title>
	<author>Itninja</author>
	<datestamp>1256587500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>So now this song will go like this?:<br> <br>
<i>Now I'm [still] waiting for the big boom<br>
And it know where I'm [was] gonna be<br>
The big boom<br>
I'm always getting closer to<br>
The big boom<br>
And it will catch up to me<br>
The big boom</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>So now this song will go like this ?
: Now I 'm [ still ] waiting for the big boom And it know where I 'm [ was ] gon na be The big boom I 'm always getting closer to The big boom And it will catch up to me The big boom</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So now this song will go like this?
: 
Now I'm [still] waiting for the big boom
And it know where I'm [was] gonna be
The big boom
I'm always getting closer to
The big boom
And it will catch up to me
The big boom</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877299</id>
	<title>25.8 Years? Not so special...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256551140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it happens every 25.800 years then it seems like no big deal to me, and obviously is not the end of the world. Why is everybody making such a big deal if it happens about every quarter century?</p><p>(If you mod this down there must be a post in reply that explains how they would differentiate 25.800 (as 25800) from 25.800 (as 25.800 [25 and 800 thousandths - precision is <i>significant</i>] )</p><p>Please stop fucking with the number system. I know this event happens every 25800 years not every 25.800 years. The decimal can only be used between the ones and the tenths place in a decimal number system, unless scientific or engineering notation is used (but those generally are only used by those who comprehend significant figures).</p><p>There is no way to justify writing 25800 as 25.800. None.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it happens every 25.800 years then it seems like no big deal to me , and obviously is not the end of the world .
Why is everybody making such a big deal if it happens about every quarter century ?
( If you mod this down there must be a post in reply that explains how they would differentiate 25.800 ( as 25800 ) from 25.800 ( as 25.800 [ 25 and 800 thousandths - precision is significant ] ) Please stop fucking with the number system .
I know this event happens every 25800 years not every 25.800 years .
The decimal can only be used between the ones and the tenths place in a decimal number system , unless scientific or engineering notation is used ( but those generally are only used by those who comprehend significant figures ) .There is no way to justify writing 25800 as 25.800 .
None .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it happens every 25.800 years then it seems like no big deal to me, and obviously is not the end of the world.
Why is everybody making such a big deal if it happens about every quarter century?
(If you mod this down there must be a post in reply that explains how they would differentiate 25.800 (as 25800) from 25.800 (as 25.800 [25 and 800 thousandths - precision is significant] )Please stop fucking with the number system.
I know this event happens every 25800 years not every 25.800 years.
The decimal can only be used between the ones and the tenths place in a decimal number system, unless scientific or engineering notation is used (but those generally are only used by those who comprehend significant figures).There is no way to justify writing 25800 as 25.800.
None.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876251</id>
	<title>Re:great</title>
	<author>MaineCoon</author>
	<datestamp>1256590200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did you mean "2220"?  Might want to doublecheck the headline!</p><p>To be fair though, on first glance I thought it said 2020 as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you mean " 2220 " ?
Might want to doublecheck the headline ! To be fair though , on first glance I thought it said 2020 as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you mean "2220"?
Might want to doublecheck the headline!To be fair though, on first glance I thought it said 2020 as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875643</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876523</id>
	<title>Re:Article wrong, GMT correlation not wrong</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1256548200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... the Maya supposed<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but there is no evidence that the Maya had any such beliefs.</p></div><p>I would be nervous if the Maya had any beliefs at all, that have been proven correct.  Are there?  As far as I know, no.</p><p>Would I be correct in saying, if the world ends in 2012, that would be the first time the Mayans got something right?</p><p>I'm just trying to figure out the fascination.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... the Maya supposed ... but there is no evidence that the Maya had any such beliefs.I would be nervous if the Maya had any beliefs at all , that have been proven correct .
Are there ?
As far as I know , no.Would I be correct in saying , if the world ends in 2012 , that would be the first time the Mayans got something right ? I 'm just trying to figure out the fascination .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... the Maya supposed ... but there is no evidence that the Maya had any such beliefs.I would be nervous if the Maya had any beliefs at all, that have been proven correct.
Are there?
As far as I know, no.Would I be correct in saying, if the world ends in 2012, that would be the first time the Mayans got something right?I'm just trying to figure out the fascination.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876133</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876183</id>
	<title>Well that's just great.</title>
	<author>gimmebeer</author>
	<datestamp>1256589900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So much for applying for tons of credit cards and not having to pay them off. I was planning to live out my last couple years like a King!</htmltext>
<tokenext>So much for applying for tons of credit cards and not having to pay them off .
I was planning to live out my last couple years like a King !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So much for applying for tons of credit cards and not having to pay them off.
I was planning to live out my last couple years like a King!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876137</id>
	<title>Its never going to stop..</title>
	<author>greywire</author>
	<datestamp>1256589540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's always going to be some date in the future that some group of people think is going to be the end of time.  When that date passes, they will find some way to reconcile it and come up with a new date.  Or they will just be vague about it and claim "well we are in the end times now, thats why all these bad things are happening in the world".</p><p>I just wish the end would come now, suddenly, on a date of no importance or significance to anyone, and in a way completely unlike any prophesied before; I wish it would happen so completely unambiguously unlike anything ever imagined that it would put to end every stupid belief surrounding every one of those doomsday scenarios.</p><p>Thats the only true end of times:  the one that proves everybody wrong.</p><p>It should happen right about.. now... *</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's always going to be some date in the future that some group of people think is going to be the end of time .
When that date passes , they will find some way to reconcile it and come up with a new date .
Or they will just be vague about it and claim " well we are in the end times now , thats why all these bad things are happening in the world " .I just wish the end would come now , suddenly , on a date of no importance or significance to anyone , and in a way completely unlike any prophesied before ; I wish it would happen so completely unambiguously unlike anything ever imagined that it would put to end every stupid belief surrounding every one of those doomsday scenarios.Thats the only true end of times : the one that proves everybody wrong.It should happen right about.. now... *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's always going to be some date in the future that some group of people think is going to be the end of time.
When that date passes, they will find some way to reconcile it and come up with a new date.
Or they will just be vague about it and claim "well we are in the end times now, thats why all these bad things are happening in the world".I just wish the end would come now, suddenly, on a date of no importance or significance to anyone, and in a way completely unlike any prophesied before; I wish it would happen so completely unambiguously unlike anything ever imagined that it would put to end every stupid belief surrounding every one of those doomsday scenarios.Thats the only true end of times:  the one that proves everybody wrong.It should happen right about.. now... *</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29888135</id>
	<title>Re:Date divider</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256676960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course.  The music of 2012 will be so wretched that it will force the the populance of the earth into commiting planetcide.  The release of Linkin Park's cover of "It's the End of the World as We Know It" will be the straw that breaks the collective conscience's back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course .
The music of 2012 will be so wretched that it will force the the populance of the earth into commiting planetcide .
The release of Linkin Park 's cover of " It 's the End of the World as We Know It " will be the straw that breaks the collective conscience 's back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course.
The music of 2012 will be so wretched that it will force the the populance of the earth into commiting planetcide.
The release of Linkin Park's cover of "It's the End of the World as We Know It" will be the straw that breaks the collective conscience's back.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875729</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29879833</id>
	<title>2012 supposedly debunked..Not really</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256566560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All of you seem to be lacking in one key piece of evidence that you should all research. Every culture...older than Christianity(yes..people existed Before the Bible) talk about an end date. There is no way to tie exact dates but there is an overwhelming agreement that the times we're in..not Gregorian/Alexander time..but an overall state of humanity..that says when there is this alignment of planets and constellations that this "time" will end and usher in a new one. The bible says the same thing. So open your minds and do some reading. Don't be so quick to discount what you don't overstand. Don't let your arrogance and ego keep you dumb and blind all your life. If you can't truly discount something as true..then you can't also discount it as not being true. We only know truth through experience..and no one here has experienced what Mayan or any other culture was truly like. Also....time is in the mind..science now finally backs what the ancients knew already. It is measurement of movement...which is why it's relative. And not just physical movement either. Again..research..read..get off the computer...expand on your mind..not the newest useless kernel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All of you seem to be lacking in one key piece of evidence that you should all research .
Every culture...older than Christianity ( yes..people existed Before the Bible ) talk about an end date .
There is no way to tie exact dates but there is an overwhelming agreement that the times we 're in..not Gregorian/Alexander time..but an overall state of humanity..that says when there is this alignment of planets and constellations that this " time " will end and usher in a new one .
The bible says the same thing .
So open your minds and do some reading .
Do n't be so quick to discount what you do n't overstand .
Do n't let your arrogance and ego keep you dumb and blind all your life .
If you ca n't truly discount something as true..then you ca n't also discount it as not being true .
We only know truth through experience..and no one here has experienced what Mayan or any other culture was truly like .
Also....time is in the mind..science now finally backs what the ancients knew already .
It is measurement of movement...which is why it 's relative .
And not just physical movement either .
Again..research..read..get off the computer...expand on your mind..not the newest useless kernel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All of you seem to be lacking in one key piece of evidence that you should all research.
Every culture...older than Christianity(yes..people existed Before the Bible) talk about an end date.
There is no way to tie exact dates but there is an overwhelming agreement that the times we're in..not Gregorian/Alexander time..but an overall state of humanity..that says when there is this alignment of planets and constellations that this "time" will end and usher in a new one.
The bible says the same thing.
So open your minds and do some reading.
Don't be so quick to discount what you don't overstand.
Don't let your arrogance and ego keep you dumb and blind all your life.
If you can't truly discount something as true..then you can't also discount it as not being true.
We only know truth through experience..and no one here has experienced what Mayan or any other culture was truly like.
Also....time is in the mind..science now finally backs what the ancients knew already.
It is measurement of movement...which is why it's relative.
And not just physical movement either.
Again..research..read..get off the computer...expand on your mind..not the newest useless kernel.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877317</id>
	<title>Re:Its never going to stop..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256551140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Segmentation Fault</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Segmentation Fault</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Segmentation Fault</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876137</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876683</id>
	<title>Re:2220?</title>
	<author>tnk1</author>
	<datestamp>1256548860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Does this mean we have to endure another round of shitty movies in 2217?</p></div><p>And if I am still alive in 2217, I promise to go to every single one of them.  Even the one directed by the disembodied head of Michael Bay.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this mean we have to endure another round of shitty movies in 2217 ? And if I am still alive in 2217 , I promise to go to every single one of them .
Even the one directed by the disembodied head of Michael Bay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this mean we have to endure another round of shitty movies in 2217?And if I am still alive in 2217, I promise to go to every single one of them.
Even the one directed by the disembodied head of Michael Bay.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875633</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876559</id>
	<title>Shadowrun is ruined!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256548380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How do we know when do expect dragons if we can not depend on the Mayans to predict the dawn of the 6th age?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How do we know when do expect dragons if we can not depend on the Mayans to predict the dawn of the 6th age ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do we know when do expect dragons if we can not depend on the Mayans to predict the dawn of the 6th age?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875733</id>
	<title>Didn't RTFA</title>
	<author>EkriirkE</author>
	<datestamp>1256587560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have the past, current and this calculation all taken into account all the calendar changes made throughout history?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have the past , current and this calculation all taken into account all the calendar changes made throughout history ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have the past, current and this calculation all taken into account all the calendar changes made throughout history?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29880023</id>
	<title>Re:Its never going to stop..</title>
	<author>inflame</author>
	<datestamp>1256568720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>you forgot to add "NO CARRIER"</htmltext>
<tokenext>you forgot to add " NO CARRIER "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you forgot to add "NO CARRIER"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876137</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877831</id>
	<title>Just a little in joke</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1256553300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The actual date is December 21st 2013. The 2012 thing is just a little funny.</p><p>Those crazy Mayans!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The actual date is December 21st 2013 .
The 2012 thing is just a little funny.Those crazy Mayans !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The actual date is December 21st 2013.
The 2012 thing is just a little funny.Those crazy Mayans!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877087</id>
	<title>TEOTEOTWAWKI ?!</title>
	<author>D4C5CE</author>
	<datestamp>1256550300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So this is the end of <i>the end of the world as we know it</i>?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So this is the end of the end of the world as we know it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So this is the end of the end of the world as we know it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876637</id>
	<title>According to my calculations...</title>
	<author>jbezorg</author>
	<datestamp>1256548680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... the robots won't go berserk for <i>at least</i> another 24 hours.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... the robots wo n't go berserk for at least another 24 hours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... the robots won't go berserk for at least another 24 hours.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875743</id>
	<title>Amateurs</title>
	<author>whisper\_jeff</author>
	<datestamp>1256587620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Mayans were amateurs when it comes to doomsday calendars. We have a doomsday once every 365 days (except on leap years) when our calendar hits December 31.<br> <br>
Oh. Wait. It's not doomsday? It's just the end of the calendar cycle? Oh. Maybe the Mayan calendar's ending is the same thing and not the end of the world...<br> <br>
Yeah.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Mayans were amateurs when it comes to doomsday calendars .
We have a doomsday once every 365 days ( except on leap years ) when our calendar hits December 31 .
Oh. Wait .
It 's not doomsday ?
It 's just the end of the calendar cycle ?
Oh. Maybe the Mayan calendar 's ending is the same thing and not the end of the world.. . Yeah .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Mayans were amateurs when it comes to doomsday calendars.
We have a doomsday once every 365 days (except on leap years) when our calendar hits December 31.
Oh. Wait.
It's not doomsday?
It's just the end of the calendar cycle?
Oh. Maybe the Mayan calendar's ending is the same thing and not the end of the world... 
Yeah.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29884261</id>
	<title>Re:How do you debunk a myth?</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1256660400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not so, many myths and religious beliefs can be debunked. Of course the change the myth in some way, usually falling into the moving goal post fallacy.</p><p>Any argument that has anything to do with the real world can be tested for falsifiability. Of course, anything like that get's hidden from the 'non believers' or believed that haven't paid enough into the system.</p><p>People seem to ignore the fact that at least 3 museums have the head of John the Baptist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not so , many myths and religious beliefs can be debunked .
Of course the change the myth in some way , usually falling into the moving goal post fallacy.Any argument that has anything to do with the real world can be tested for falsifiability .
Of course , anything like that get 's hidden from the 'non believers ' or believed that have n't paid enough into the system.People seem to ignore the fact that at least 3 museums have the head of John the Baptist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not so, many myths and religious beliefs can be debunked.
Of course the change the myth in some way, usually falling into the moving goal post fallacy.Any argument that has anything to do with the real world can be tested for falsifiability.
Of course, anything like that get's hidden from the 'non believers' or believed that haven't paid enough into the system.People seem to ignore the fact that at least 3 museums have the head of John the Baptist.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875769</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29879117</id>
	<title>Re:Its never going to stop..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256560920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Haha, that's funny. Looks like you were wrong about your time. Fool, the world isn't going to end for another billion years. Well it's too bad ev</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Haha , that 's funny .
Looks like you were wrong about your time .
Fool , the world is n't going to end for another billion years .
Well it 's too bad ev</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Haha, that's funny.
Looks like you were wrong about your time.
Fool, the world isn't going to end for another billion years.
Well it's too bad ev</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876137</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29888311</id>
	<title>Is 2038 the end??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256634540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder if in the year 2037, everyone will think the unix programmers of the 70's "knew" that the world end in 2038, so they only chose to represent time as a 32-bit integer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if in the year 2037 , everyone will think the unix programmers of the 70 's " knew " that the world end in 2038 , so they only chose to represent time as a 32-bit integer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if in the year 2037, everyone will think the unix programmers of the 70's "knew" that the world end in 2038, so they only chose to represent time as a 32-bit integer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876475</id>
	<title>Re:Prophesies can never be "true"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256548020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I ran 16 million simulations of the lottery last week, and one of the simulations actually predicted the correct numbers.</p><p>I'm going to sell the output of that simulator for next week's lottery for $1,000,000. Any takers? It's a great deal. You'll get $4,000,000 when you win!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ran 16 million simulations of the lottery last week , and one of the simulations actually predicted the correct numbers.I 'm going to sell the output of that simulator for next week 's lottery for $ 1,000,000 .
Any takers ?
It 's a great deal .
You 'll get $ 4,000,000 when you win !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I ran 16 million simulations of the lottery last week, and one of the simulations actually predicted the correct numbers.I'm going to sell the output of that simulator for next week's lottery for $1,000,000.
Any takers?
It's a great deal.
You'll get $4,000,000 when you win!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876095</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29880837</id>
	<title>The Mayans already had their doomsday!</title>
	<author>cyn1c77</author>
	<datestamp>1256578920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Mayan civilization ended around 1000 years ago.  They already had their doomsday.  So why are we worrying about their calendar?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Mayan civilization ended around 1000 years ago .
They already had their doomsday .
So why are we worrying about their calendar ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Mayan civilization ended around 1000 years ago.
They already had their doomsday.
So why are we worrying about their calendar?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875843</id>
	<title>Oh thats good news</title>
	<author>Zarf\_is\_with\_you</author>
	<datestamp>1256588100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>My credit card will be paid off by then making Minimum payments.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My credit card will be paid off by then making Minimum payments .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My credit card will be paid off by then making Minimum payments.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876565</id>
	<title>Re:Amateurs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256548380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Oh. Wait. It's not doomsday?</p> </div><p>
No, no, you got it all wrong! It's not the end of the world, it's the coming of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatl!" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Quetzalcoatl</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh .
Wait. It 's not doomsday ?
No , no , you got it all wrong !
It 's not the end of the world , it 's the coming of Quetzalcoatl [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Oh.
Wait. It's not doomsday?
No, no, you got it all wrong!
It's not the end of the world, it's the coming of Quetzalcoatl [wikipedia.org]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877681</id>
	<title>Re:2220?</title>
	<author>malus314</author>
	<datestamp>1256552700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Why would you think 2217 would be different than any other year?</p> </div><p>Well, I for one was hoping that the MPAA and the money-grubbing, "milk it for all it's worth", "pander to the lowest common denominator" mentality for making movies that it supports would be gone by then.  <br> <br>

*sigh*<br> <br>

We wishful thinkers can be even more naive than the conspiracy theorists sometimes....</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would you think 2217 would be different than any other year ?
Well , I for one was hoping that the MPAA and the money-grubbing , " milk it for all it 's worth " , " pander to the lowest common denominator " mentality for making movies that it supports would be gone by then .
* sigh * We wishful thinkers can be even more naive than the conspiracy theorists sometimes... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Why would you think 2217 would be different than any other year?
Well, I for one was hoping that the MPAA and the money-grubbing, "milk it for all it's worth", "pander to the lowest common denominator" mentality for making movies that it supports would be gone by then.
*sigh* 

We wishful thinkers can be even more naive than the conspiracy theorists sometimes....
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876621</id>
	<title>Re:How do you debunk a myth?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1256548620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>and then say, "See, the world didn't end afterall."</p></div><p>You have no idea how that really works, do you? ^^<br>I know how it works, because I was there. In the 80s. On a end-of-the world camp. With my mother.<br>We sat in a tent, had a bonfire with kumbaja-singing, bongo drumming, ate out of a tajine... and when it was time, and nothing happened...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...people simply decided that they must have been wrong in their calculations, decided for a new future date, and continued what they always did.</p><p>Schizophrenia (even the mild one, called superstition or religion) can't be healed by blatant in-you-face facts. Because schizophrenia is by definition a disease where you are detached from reality, and deduce everything from a inner reality.<br>The reason is, that the outside world became too horrible to bear, without falling into a state close to brain death. It's a emergency state (that became constant).</p><p>And the only help, is to again make reality more inviting and tempting than their inner world, and offer them a way out that lets them keep their self-respect. (E.g. by allowing them to say that they always did the right thing, and weren't crazy. But that now they do something even better than before.)</p><p>As this is usually really hard, modern society has given up, or thinks that that human is not worth the effort, and just throws pills into them, so they get "out", but at the same time lose a important part of their personality, because of the brain-wide all-eradicating air fuel bombs that these pills are. (Lobotomy light, one could call them.)<br>It's easy to fall into the circular reasoning, that a person is not worth that huge effort, because he is such a "worthless, crazy" person (,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...because he is ill, because nobody helps him out of it!!)!</p><p>In terms of psychology, we're still in very dark ages. We see the light in the distance. But it's still a long way to go.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>and then say , " See , the world did n't end afterall .
" You have no idea how that really works , do you ?
^ ^ I know how it works , because I was there .
In the 80s .
On a end-of-the world camp .
With my mother.We sat in a tent , had a bonfire with kumbaja-singing , bongo drumming , ate out of a tajine... and when it was time , and nothing happened... ...people simply decided that they must have been wrong in their calculations , decided for a new future date , and continued what they always did.Schizophrenia ( even the mild one , called superstition or religion ) ca n't be healed by blatant in-you-face facts .
Because schizophrenia is by definition a disease where you are detached from reality , and deduce everything from a inner reality.The reason is , that the outside world became too horrible to bear , without falling into a state close to brain death .
It 's a emergency state ( that became constant ) .And the only help , is to again make reality more inviting and tempting than their inner world , and offer them a way out that lets them keep their self-respect .
( E.g. by allowing them to say that they always did the right thing , and were n't crazy .
But that now they do something even better than before .
) As this is usually really hard , modern society has given up , or thinks that that human is not worth the effort , and just throws pills into them , so they get " out " , but at the same time lose a important part of their personality , because of the brain-wide all-eradicating air fuel bombs that these pills are .
( Lobotomy light , one could call them .
) It 's easy to fall into the circular reasoning , that a person is not worth that huge effort , because he is such a " worthless , crazy " person ( , ...because he is ill , because nobody helps him out of it ! !
) ! In terms of psychology , we 're still in very dark ages .
We see the light in the distance .
But it 's still a long way to go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and then say, "See, the world didn't end afterall.
"You have no idea how that really works, do you?
^^I know how it works, because I was there.
In the 80s.
On a end-of-the world camp.
With my mother.We sat in a tent, had a bonfire with kumbaja-singing, bongo drumming, ate out of a tajine... and when it was time, and nothing happened... ...people simply decided that they must have been wrong in their calculations, decided for a new future date, and continued what they always did.Schizophrenia (even the mild one, called superstition or religion) can't be healed by blatant in-you-face facts.
Because schizophrenia is by definition a disease where you are detached from reality, and deduce everything from a inner reality.The reason is, that the outside world became too horrible to bear, without falling into a state close to brain death.
It's a emergency state (that became constant).And the only help, is to again make reality more inviting and tempting than their inner world, and offer them a way out that lets them keep their self-respect.
(E.g. by allowing them to say that they always did the right thing, and weren't crazy.
But that now they do something even better than before.
)As this is usually really hard, modern society has given up, or thinks that that human is not worth the effort, and just throws pills into them, so they get "out", but at the same time lose a important part of their personality, because of the brain-wide all-eradicating air fuel bombs that these pills are.
(Lobotomy light, one could call them.
)It's easy to fall into the circular reasoning, that a person is not worth that huge effort, because he is such a "worthless, crazy" person (, ...because he is ill, because nobody helps him out of it!!
)!In terms of psychology, we're still in very dark ages.
We see the light in the distance.
But it's still a long way to go.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875853</id>
	<title>Damn</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256588160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hah, and here I've recently seen one of these really crazy christian based shows on late night tv claiming the rapture was going to occur on that 2012 date, making some weird argument that the Mayans were misinterpreting messages from (the christian) god. If they were so adamant about it I would have thought it was a joke. Guess they'll have to wait  again for another couple hundred years. I was looking forward to getting past the stupid prophecy though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hah , and here I 've recently seen one of these really crazy christian based shows on late night tv claiming the rapture was going to occur on that 2012 date , making some weird argument that the Mayans were misinterpreting messages from ( the christian ) god .
If they were so adamant about it I would have thought it was a joke .
Guess they 'll have to wait again for another couple hundred years .
I was looking forward to getting past the stupid prophecy though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hah, and here I've recently seen one of these really crazy christian based shows on late night tv claiming the rapture was going to occur on that 2012 date, making some weird argument that the Mayans were misinterpreting messages from (the christian) god.
If they were so adamant about it I would have thought it was a joke.
Guess they'll have to wait  again for another couple hundred years.
I was looking forward to getting past the stupid prophecy though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876585</id>
	<title>Screw 2012, My calendar ends on 12/31 THIS YEAR!</title>
	<author>Quarters</author>
	<datestamp>1256548500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>WTF are we all going to do???!!!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>WTF are we all going to do ? ? ? ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WTF are we all going to do???!!!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29882917</id>
	<title>Re:2220?</title>
	<author>TheVelvetFlamebait</author>
	<datestamp>1256653560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because 2217 is the year of Indie Movies on the Desktop!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because 2217 is the year of Indie Movies on the Desktop !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because 2217 is the year of Indie Movies on the Desktop!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875877</id>
	<title>Bad news good news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256588340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bad news is we'll have to wait until 2020. The good news is my stockpile of Twinkies will still be fresh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bad news is we 'll have to wait until 2020 .
The good news is my stockpile of Twinkies will still be fresh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bad news is we'll have to wait until 2020.
The good news is my stockpile of Twinkies will still be fresh.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877353</id>
	<title>Re:Article wrong, GMT correlation not wrong</title>
	<author>jscalbny</author>
	<datestamp>1256551260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whether the 13th Baktun is on the 21st or 23rd is pretty much irrelevant anyway as far as the "doomsday" nuts are concerned, though. </p><p>You are correct, however,  that while the 13th baktun holds some minor significance it was not in any way associated with an "end of the world" scenario... and it's only referenced in one incomplete text that I can think of. </p><p>Best &amp; simplest explanation of the "end" of the cycle that I've heard is simply to compare it to a numerical placeholder... i.e. why we don't write the current date as 26th October 02009 - does just saying 2009 mean we believe that the world will end in the year 9999?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whether the 13th Baktun is on the 21st or 23rd is pretty much irrelevant anyway as far as the " doomsday " nuts are concerned , though .
You are correct , however , that while the 13th baktun holds some minor significance it was not in any way associated with an " end of the world " scenario... and it 's only referenced in one incomplete text that I can think of .
Best &amp; simplest explanation of the " end " of the cycle that I 've heard is simply to compare it to a numerical placeholder... i.e. why we do n't write the current date as 26th October 02009 - does just saying 2009 mean we believe that the world will end in the year 9999 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whether the 13th Baktun is on the 21st or 23rd is pretty much irrelevant anyway as far as the "doomsday" nuts are concerned, though.
You are correct, however,  that while the 13th baktun holds some minor significance it was not in any way associated with an "end of the world" scenario... and it's only referenced in one incomplete text that I can think of.
Best &amp; simplest explanation of the "end" of the cycle that I've heard is simply to compare it to a numerical placeholder... i.e. why we don't write the current date as 26th October 02009 - does just saying 2009 mean we believe that the world will end in the year 9999?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877791</id>
	<title>Re:Article wrong, GMT correlation not wrong</title>
	<author>lennier</author>
	<datestamp>1256553120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The most commonly used correlation of the Gregorian Calendar and the Maya Calendar is the GMT correlation, after Goodwin, Martinez, Thompson"</p><p>So all this time, when I've set my computer to GMT... it's actually been setting it to Mayan Long Count time?</p><p>That explains all the Daylight Saving hassles I've been having.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The most commonly used correlation of the Gregorian Calendar and the Maya Calendar is the GMT correlation , after Goodwin , Martinez , Thompson " So all this time , when I 've set my computer to GMT... it 's actually been setting it to Mayan Long Count time ? That explains all the Daylight Saving hassles I 've been having .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The most commonly used correlation of the Gregorian Calendar and the Maya Calendar is the GMT correlation, after Goodwin, Martinez, Thompson"So all this time, when I've set my computer to GMT... it's actually been setting it to Mayan Long Count time?That explains all the Daylight Saving hassles I've been having.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875783</id>
	<title>So much for the Sixth World</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256587860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess I should cancel my coming out party for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowrun\_timeline#2010.E2.80.9319" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Ryumyo</a> [wikipedia.org].<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess I should cancel my coming out party for Ryumyo [ wikipedia.org ] .
: (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess I should cancel my coming out party for Ryumyo [wikipedia.org].
:(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877443</id>
	<title>End is near</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256551740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Look Folks you can't keep moving the date up.  First it was supposed to be in Y2k then like 2005 then 2012.  I'm starting to think you guys can't hold up your end of the deal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look Folks you ca n't keep moving the date up .
First it was supposed to be in Y2k then like 2005 then 2012 .
I 'm starting to think you guys ca n't hold up your end of the deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look Folks you can't keep moving the date up.
First it was supposed to be in Y2k then like 2005 then 2012.
I'm starting to think you guys can't hold up your end of the deal.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877069</id>
	<title>Poor Spricket24</title>
	<author>wiredlogic</author>
	<datestamp>1256550240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This means <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbBmlHGgsgc" title="youtube.com">Spricket24</a> [youtube.com] is going to have to give back her <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynv\_52hqcLc" title="youtube.com">Emmy</a> [youtube.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This means Spricket24 [ youtube.com ] is going to have to give back her Emmy [ youtube.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This means Spricket24 [youtube.com] is going to have to give back her Emmy [youtube.com].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877193</id>
	<title>Why Did They Release This?</title>
	<author>SwashbucklingCowboy</author>
	<datestamp>1256550720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now we're going to have to listen to this nonsense for another 12 years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now we 're going to have to listen to this nonsense for another 12 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now we're going to have to listen to this nonsense for another 12 years.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875633</id>
	<title>2220?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256587140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does this mean we have to endure another round of shitty movies in 2217?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this mean we have to endure another round of shitty movies in 2217 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this mean we have to endure another round of shitty movies in 2217?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876605</id>
	<title>Reminds me..</title>
	<author>Seth Kriticos</author>
	<datestamp>1256548560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>..of the gigantic clock someone is building, that should work for 10,000 years. Maybe we should engrave a manual in that thing, that when it is done, the world does not end, but you have to rewind it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..of the gigantic clock someone is building , that should work for 10,000 years .
Maybe we should engrave a manual in that thing , that when it is done , the world does not end , but you have to rewind it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..of the gigantic clock someone is building, that should work for 10,000 years.
Maybe we should engrave a manual in that thing, that when it is done, the world does not end, but you have to rewind it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876205</id>
	<title>Re:From the virgin geeks - Thanks a lot!</title>
	<author>sexybomber</author>
	<datestamp>1256589960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a damn shame, too, some of those New Agey women are real freaky.  Some of them even shave!</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a damn shame , too , some of those New Agey women are real freaky .
Some of them even shave !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a damn shame, too, some of those New Agey women are real freaky.
Some of them even shave!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876375</id>
	<title>Re:Oh thats good news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256590740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interest rates are killer aren't they? Probably would have just been cheaper to pay cash for that donut instead of getting the Krispy Kreme Kard just for 10\% off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interest rates are killer are n't they ?
Probably would have just been cheaper to pay cash for that donut instead of getting the Krispy Kreme Kard just for 10 \ % off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interest rates are killer aren't they?
Probably would have just been cheaper to pay cash for that donut instead of getting the Krispy Kreme Kard just for 10\% off.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877249</id>
	<title>Mayan's were optimistic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256550960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wait why are we listening to Mayans again?  The world already did end for them, a long long time ago.  It seems that their prediction (if it even was one) was way optimistic.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait why are we listening to Mayans again ?
The world already did end for them , a long long time ago .
It seems that their prediction ( if it even was one ) was way optimistic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait why are we listening to Mayans again?
The world already did end for them, a long long time ago.
It seems that their prediction (if it even was one) was way optimistic.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875849</id>
	<title>Re:2220?</title>
	<author>Tanks*Guns</author>
	<datestamp>1256588160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can already see this one shaping up<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...

Mel Gibson's Apocalypto II starring Nicholas Cage and Lou Diamond Phillips</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can already see this one shaping up .. . Mel Gibson 's Apocalypto II starring Nicholas Cage and Lou Diamond Phillips</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can already see this one shaping up ...

Mel Gibson's Apocalypto II starring Nicholas Cage and Lou Diamond Phillips</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29881793</id>
	<title>Re:My favorite thing about the 2012ers...</title>
	<author>phision</author>
	<datestamp>1256639760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The Mayans actually had dates carved into stylae which took place long, long after 2012.</p></div><p>

Maybe we should stop call it 2012 already. I wouldn't stick with 2208 either: <a href="href" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya\_calendar#Presumed\_2012\_doomsday</a> [slashdot.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Mayans actually had dates carved into stylae which took place long , long after 2012 .
Maybe we should stop call it 2012 already .
I would n't stick with 2208 either : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya \ _calendar # Presumed \ _2012 \ _doomsday [ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Mayans actually had dates carved into stylae which took place long, long after 2012.
Maybe we should stop call it 2012 already.
I wouldn't stick with 2208 either: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya\_calendar#Presumed\_2012\_doomsday [slashdot.org]
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876271</id>
	<title>Re:2220?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256590320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Does this mean we have to endure another round of shitty movies in 2217?</p></div></blockquote><p>Of course!</p><p>However, on 2012 12 18 - when the scientists discover that 2012 *is* the real date - Micheal Moore will hastily put together another annoying movie trumpeting our reluctance to take our Mayan overlords seriously. It'll feature Al Gore.</p><p>Spoiler Alert!<br>.<br>.</p><p>.<br>.<br>.</p><p>.<br>We all die.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this mean we have to endure another round of shitty movies in 2217 ? Of course ! However , on 2012 12 18 - when the scientists discover that 2012 * is * the real date - Micheal Moore will hastily put together another annoying movie trumpeting our reluctance to take our Mayan overlords seriously .
It 'll feature Al Gore.Spoiler Alert ! ......We all die .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this mean we have to endure another round of shitty movies in 2217?Of course!However, on 2012 12 18 - when the scientists discover that 2012 *is* the real date - Micheal Moore will hastily put together another annoying movie trumpeting our reluctance to take our Mayan overlords seriously.
It'll feature Al Gore.Spoiler Alert!......We all die.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29880553</id>
	<title>Re:Its never going to stop..</title>
	<author>GleeBot</author>
	<datestamp>1256575020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Thats the only true end of times:  the one that proves everybody wrong.</p></div><p>Funny you should say that, because it's exactly what Christian orthodoxy is: that nobody can predict the time or the place of the end times.  Just goes to show there's nothing new under the sun.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thats the only true end of times : the one that proves everybody wrong.Funny you should say that , because it 's exactly what Christian orthodoxy is : that nobody can predict the time or the place of the end times .
Just goes to show there 's nothing new under the sun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thats the only true end of times:  the one that proves everybody wrong.Funny you should say that, because it's exactly what Christian orthodoxy is: that nobody can predict the time or the place of the end times.
Just goes to show there's nothing new under the sun.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29887595</id>
	<title>Re:Rapture 2012</title>
	<author>niktemadur</author>
	<datestamp>1256674740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <b>Rapture 2012 (Score:2, Troll)</b><nobr> <wbr></nobr>... on Monday October 26, @12:04PM<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Many Christians waiting to be raptured on 2012... Now they have to wait again!</p></div><p>The above post seems to have miraculous modding.<br>It's a sign, brothers and sisters!<br>Repent, for the end is nigh!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rapture 2012 ( Score : 2 , Troll ) ... on Monday October 26 , @ 12 : 04PM ...Many Christians waiting to be raptured on 2012... Now they have to wait again ! The above post seems to have miraculous modding.It 's a sign , brothers and sisters ! Repent , for the end is nigh !</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Rapture 2012 (Score:2, Troll) ... on Monday October 26, @12:04PM ...Many Christians waiting to be raptured on 2012... Now they have to wait again!The above post seems to have miraculous modding.It's a sign, brothers and sisters!Repent, for the end is nigh!
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876295</id>
	<title>Sorry, it's already over</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1256590380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There have been a lot of different groups that have determined the end of the world, in the past tense.<br>Think of those idiots who drink poisened cool-aid, expect to fly off on a comet, or sell off all their possessions expecting to spend all their money enjoying themselves before things go boom. Many religious groups still exist that were based on the end of the world predictions that have passed.<br>I still don't understand why a dead religion (I haven't heard of any practicing aztecs, actively ripping out the hearts of thousands at a time) should be given such a promanent place in the current belief systems. If you believe in this disaster prediction, then you obviously place more belief in the aztec gods than any of the current crop, and you should start ripping out hearts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There have been a lot of different groups that have determined the end of the world , in the past tense.Think of those idiots who drink poisened cool-aid , expect to fly off on a comet , or sell off all their possessions expecting to spend all their money enjoying themselves before things go boom .
Many religious groups still exist that were based on the end of the world predictions that have passed.I still do n't understand why a dead religion ( I have n't heard of any practicing aztecs , actively ripping out the hearts of thousands at a time ) should be given such a promanent place in the current belief systems .
If you believe in this disaster prediction , then you obviously place more belief in the aztec gods than any of the current crop , and you should start ripping out hearts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There have been a lot of different groups that have determined the end of the world, in the past tense.Think of those idiots who drink poisened cool-aid, expect to fly off on a comet, or sell off all their possessions expecting to spend all their money enjoying themselves before things go boom.
Many religious groups still exist that were based on the end of the world predictions that have passed.I still don't understand why a dead religion (I haven't heard of any practicing aztecs, actively ripping out the hearts of thousands at a time) should be given such a promanent place in the current belief systems.
If you believe in this disaster prediction, then you obviously place more belief in the aztec gods than any of the current crop, and you should start ripping out hearts.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876133</id>
	<title>Article wrong, GMT correlation not wrong</title>
	<author>Xoc-S</author>
	<datestamp>1256589480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The most commonly used correlation of the Gregorian Calendar and the Maya Calendar is the GMT correlation, after Goodwin, Martinez, Thompson, the main proponents. In this correlation, December 21, 2012 will be the end of the 13th Baktun. The only other correlation used by any but fringe scholars places the end of the 13th Baktun two days later on December 23rd. These guys are proposing a new correlation because of some reading of the Venus pages in the Dresden Codex. However. as has been known since at least the 1950s the Venus pages work exactly right with the GMT correlation, so these guys are just wrong about their correlation.
<p>
The reason for all the hoopla about 2012, is that in the Maya Calendar, the last creation ended on a 13th Baktun. The lunatics suppose that since the last creation ended on a 13th Baktun, the Maya supposed that this creation would <i>also</i> end after 13 Baktuns, but there is <b>no</b> evidence that the Maya had any such beliefs. There is a date on the West Panel of the Temple of Inscriptions from Palenque that refers to an anniversary of the crowning of the king, Pacal, that makes it quite obvious that the Maya believed that there was a 14th through 20th Baktun.
</p><p>
So, in summary, these guys are wrong about the new correlation, and all the 2012 nutjobs are wrong about even the Maya believing that 2012 was the end of this creation. For more information, see the presentation on the FAMSI (Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies) web site by Mark Van Stone that fully details what is known and what is true about Maya beliefs about 2012. <a href="http://www.famsi.org/research/vanstone/2012/index.html" title="famsi.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.famsi.org/research/vanstone/2012/index.html</a> [famsi.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The most commonly used correlation of the Gregorian Calendar and the Maya Calendar is the GMT correlation , after Goodwin , Martinez , Thompson , the main proponents .
In this correlation , December 21 , 2012 will be the end of the 13th Baktun .
The only other correlation used by any but fringe scholars places the end of the 13th Baktun two days later on December 23rd .
These guys are proposing a new correlation because of some reading of the Venus pages in the Dresden Codex .
However. as has been known since at least the 1950s the Venus pages work exactly right with the GMT correlation , so these guys are just wrong about their correlation .
The reason for all the hoopla about 2012 , is that in the Maya Calendar , the last creation ended on a 13th Baktun .
The lunatics suppose that since the last creation ended on a 13th Baktun , the Maya supposed that this creation would also end after 13 Baktuns , but there is no evidence that the Maya had any such beliefs .
There is a date on the West Panel of the Temple of Inscriptions from Palenque that refers to an anniversary of the crowning of the king , Pacal , that makes it quite obvious that the Maya believed that there was a 14th through 20th Baktun .
So , in summary , these guys are wrong about the new correlation , and all the 2012 nutjobs are wrong about even the Maya believing that 2012 was the end of this creation .
For more information , see the presentation on the FAMSI ( Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies ) web site by Mark Van Stone that fully details what is known and what is true about Maya beliefs about 2012. http : //www.famsi.org/research/vanstone/2012/index.html [ famsi.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The most commonly used correlation of the Gregorian Calendar and the Maya Calendar is the GMT correlation, after Goodwin, Martinez, Thompson, the main proponents.
In this correlation, December 21, 2012 will be the end of the 13th Baktun.
The only other correlation used by any but fringe scholars places the end of the 13th Baktun two days later on December 23rd.
These guys are proposing a new correlation because of some reading of the Venus pages in the Dresden Codex.
However. as has been known since at least the 1950s the Venus pages work exactly right with the GMT correlation, so these guys are just wrong about their correlation.
The reason for all the hoopla about 2012, is that in the Maya Calendar, the last creation ended on a 13th Baktun.
The lunatics suppose that since the last creation ended on a 13th Baktun, the Maya supposed that this creation would also end after 13 Baktuns, but there is no evidence that the Maya had any such beliefs.
There is a date on the West Panel of the Temple of Inscriptions from Palenque that refers to an anniversary of the crowning of the king, Pacal, that makes it quite obvious that the Maya believed that there was a 14th through 20th Baktun.
So, in summary, these guys are wrong about the new correlation, and all the 2012 nutjobs are wrong about even the Maya believing that 2012 was the end of this creation.
For more information, see the presentation on the FAMSI (Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies) web site by Mark Van Stone that fully details what is known and what is true about Maya beliefs about 2012. http://www.famsi.org/research/vanstone/2012/index.html [famsi.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29880021</id>
	<title>It's Official</title>
	<author>DynaSoar</author>
	<datestamp>1256568720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The smugly self-satisfied refutations that sound just different enough to prove they're not just copying each other but should have been paying enough attention to each other so that their sheer numbers didn't make it look so much like they cared or at least coveted the loonies' public spotlight, now outnumber the loonies paying enough attention to smugly copying each other in the public spotlight so their stories differ just enough so that there is no single satisfactory refutation from which to sheer some coveted attention.</p><p>As for the Maya people, I'll bet most of the 7 million of them fully expect to still be here in 2013. I suspect of the few that even notice the scuedopsientific jircle cerk going on around them, at least a few secretly hope "their" predictions come true for much of the rest of us. Even though there are none. Predictions, that is, not Maya. There's a passle of them. Maya, not predictions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The smugly self-satisfied refutations that sound just different enough to prove they 're not just copying each other but should have been paying enough attention to each other so that their sheer numbers did n't make it look so much like they cared or at least coveted the loonies ' public spotlight , now outnumber the loonies paying enough attention to smugly copying each other in the public spotlight so their stories differ just enough so that there is no single satisfactory refutation from which to sheer some coveted attention.As for the Maya people , I 'll bet most of the 7 million of them fully expect to still be here in 2013 .
I suspect of the few that even notice the scuedopsientific jircle cerk going on around them , at least a few secretly hope " their " predictions come true for much of the rest of us .
Even though there are none .
Predictions , that is , not Maya .
There 's a passle of them .
Maya , not predictions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The smugly self-satisfied refutations that sound just different enough to prove they're not just copying each other but should have been paying enough attention to each other so that their sheer numbers didn't make it look so much like they cared or at least coveted the loonies' public spotlight, now outnumber the loonies paying enough attention to smugly copying each other in the public spotlight so their stories differ just enough so that there is no single satisfactory refutation from which to sheer some coveted attention.As for the Maya people, I'll bet most of the 7 million of them fully expect to still be here in 2013.
I suspect of the few that even notice the scuedopsientific jircle cerk going on around them, at least a few secretly hope "their" predictions come true for much of the rest of us.
Even though there are none.
Predictions, that is, not Maya.
There's a passle of them.
Maya, not predictions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876543</id>
	<title>Re:From the virgin geeks - Thanks a lot!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256548260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So it is in the best interest of the geeks to have 2012 thingy going on to get sex.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So it is in the best interest of the geeks to have 2012 thingy going on to get sex .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So it is in the best interest of the geeks to have 2012 thingy going on to get sex.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875677</id>
	<title>From the virgin geeks - Thanks a lot!</title>
	<author>NoYob</author>
	<datestamp>1256587380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just to pass this on (I'm married so I'm already doomed):<p>On 2012-12-21, many geeks were about to have sex from the new agey women who believed that it was the last day of the Earth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just to pass this on ( I 'm married so I 'm already doomed ) : On 2012-12-21 , many geeks were about to have sex from the new agey women who believed that it was the last day of the Earth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just to pass this on (I'm married so I'm already doomed):On 2012-12-21, many geeks were about to have sex from the new agey women who believed that it was the last day of the Earth.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875741</id>
	<title>Re:2220? Yes. STAR TREK</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256587620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you look on the star trek timeline</p><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline\_of\_Star\_Trek</p><p>2220 is *MISSING*</p><p>Now they have a NEW plot they can integrate into rebooting the series!</p><p>Maybe they will get George Lucas to direct it and the internet will implode.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you look on the star trek timelinehttp : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline \ _of \ _Star \ _Trek2220 is * MISSING * Now they have a NEW plot they can integrate into rebooting the series ! Maybe they will get George Lucas to direct it and the internet will implode .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you look on the star trek timelinehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline\_of\_Star\_Trek2220 is *MISSING*Now they have a NEW plot they can integrate into rebooting the series!Maybe they will get George Lucas to direct it and the internet will implode.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875665</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256587320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good News everyone, the bad news i was going to give just got delayed by 200 odd years - Prof. Fansworth</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good News everyone , the bad news i was going to give just got delayed by 200 odd years - Prof. Fansworth</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good News everyone, the bad news i was going to give just got delayed by 200 odd years - Prof. Fansworth</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876095</id>
	<title>Prophesies can never be "true"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256589300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If every person on Earth predicts a single (different) date as being the end of the world, and one of them ends up being correct - does that mean their prophesy was true? Certainly not. There was no basis for their claim - it should rightly be rejected as arbitrary, even if it happened to coincide with reality.
<br> <br>
Although at that point - the end of the world - epistemology is probably not going to be your biggest concern. I'll refer you to the <a href="http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror\_16631.html" title="horror-movies.ca">rules of Zombieland</a> [horror-movies.ca] for further guidance.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If every person on Earth predicts a single ( different ) date as being the end of the world , and one of them ends up being correct - does that mean their prophesy was true ?
Certainly not .
There was no basis for their claim - it should rightly be rejected as arbitrary , even if it happened to coincide with reality .
Although at that point - the end of the world - epistemology is probably not going to be your biggest concern .
I 'll refer you to the rules of Zombieland [ horror-movies.ca ] for further guidance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If every person on Earth predicts a single (different) date as being the end of the world, and one of them ends up being correct - does that mean their prophesy was true?
Certainly not.
There was no basis for their claim - it should rightly be rejected as arbitrary, even if it happened to coincide with reality.
Although at that point - the end of the world - epistemology is probably not going to be your biggest concern.
I'll refer you to the rules of Zombieland [horror-movies.ca] for further guidance.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29879889</id>
	<title>Colima Me Red...</title>
	<author>Marnok</author>
	<datestamp>1256567040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Could they have been counting in dog years?

What do u think Xoloitzcuintle?

"woof"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could they have been counting in dog years ?
What do u think Xoloitzcuintle ?
" woof "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could they have been counting in dog years?
What do u think Xoloitzcuintle?
"woof"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875947</id>
	<title>mod 0p</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256588580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">just yet, but I'm walk up to a play beyond the scope of fatal mistakes, minutes. At home, Vitalityi. Like an JULIET ARE TOGETHER of FreeBSD Usenet</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>just yet , but I 'm walk up to a play beyond the scope of fatal mistakes , minutes .
At home , Vitalityi .
Like an JULIET ARE TOGETHER of FreeBSD Usenet [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>just yet, but I'm walk up to a play beyond the scope of fatal mistakes, minutes.
At home, Vitalityi.
Like an JULIET ARE TOGETHER of FreeBSD Usenet [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29879691</id>
	<title>Cycles</title>
	<author>Codex\_of\_Wisdom</author>
	<datestamp>1256565240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not ends, CYCLES. Get the headline right, please.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not ends , CYCLES .
Get the headline right , please .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not ends, CYCLES.
Get the headline right, please.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875615</id>
	<title>Assuming...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256587080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Assuming all the conspiracy theorists can be convinced it's true, at least this means I'll be dead before this idiocy crops up again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Assuming all the conspiracy theorists can be convinced it 's true , at least this means I 'll be dead before this idiocy crops up again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Assuming all the conspiracy theorists can be convinced it's true, at least this means I'll be dead before this idiocy crops up again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876391</id>
	<title>Re:From the virgin geeks - Thanks a lot!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256547600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here's a good reason to do it three years early - <a href="http://www.globalorgasm.org/" title="globalorgasm.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalorgasm.org/</a> [globalorgasm.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's a good reason to do it three years early - http : //www.globalorgasm.org/ [ globalorgasm.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's a good reason to do it three years early - http://www.globalorgasm.org/ [globalorgasm.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29879351</id>
	<title>Re:How do you debunk a myth?</title>
	<author>Valdrax</author>
	<datestamp>1256562540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Actually, even if the world does end on the predicted date, the prophesies are still not true. There's no basis for their claims, so they're arbitrary.</p></div><p>That's not true.  If the world ends exactly as they predicted, then there's a strong sign that their prophesies have a basis.  Occam's Razor only points to a naturalistic world as long as nothing overtly miraculous occurs, and a sufficiently bizarre end of the world would point to someone's crazy voice in the head actually being something real as the simplest explanation.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , even if the world does end on the predicted date , the prophesies are still not true .
There 's no basis for their claims , so they 're arbitrary.That 's not true .
If the world ends exactly as they predicted , then there 's a strong sign that their prophesies have a basis .
Occam 's Razor only points to a naturalistic world as long as nothing overtly miraculous occurs , and a sufficiently bizarre end of the world would point to someone 's crazy voice in the head actually being something real as the simplest explanation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, even if the world does end on the predicted date, the prophesies are still not true.
There's no basis for their claims, so they're arbitrary.That's not true.
If the world ends exactly as they predicted, then there's a strong sign that their prophesies have a basis.
Occam's Razor only points to a naturalistic world as long as nothing overtly miraculous occurs, and a sufficiently bizarre end of the world would point to someone's crazy voice in the head actually being something real as the simplest explanation.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876059</id>
	<title>Re:2220?</title>
	<author>Interoperable</author>
	<datestamp>1256589180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, but they'll be shitty super-3D-interactive-space-movies! We can go to them in our internal-combustion-engine-space-cars and watch them with our super-future-space-eyes!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , but they 'll be shitty super-3D-interactive-space-movies !
We can go to them in our internal-combustion-engine-space-cars and watch them with our super-future-space-eyes !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, but they'll be shitty super-3D-interactive-space-movies!
We can go to them in our internal-combustion-engine-space-cars and watch them with our super-future-space-eyes!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875633</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875787</id>
	<title>Woops!</title>
	<author>dingen</author>
	<datestamp>1256587920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I bet the guys behind <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1190080/" title="imdb.com">this</a> [imdb.com] aren't too happy to hear this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet the guys behind this [ imdb.com ] are n't too happy to hear this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet the guys behind this [imdb.com] aren't too happy to hear this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876655</id>
	<title>WELCOME TO THE JEW WORLD ORDER</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256548800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Welcome to our talmud-believing kike overlords!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to our talmud-believing kike overlords !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to our talmud-believing kike overlords!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875691</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875703</id>
	<title>Re:2220?</title>
	<author>Sebilrazen</author>
	<datestamp>1256587500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why not?  We deal with a round of shitty movies every year anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not ?
We deal with a round of shitty movies every year anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not?
We deal with a round of shitty movies every year anyway.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875633</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29880511</id>
	<title>Re:My favorite thing about the 2012ers...</title>
	<author>DdJ</author>
	<datestamp>1256574300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Huh.  <em>My</em> favorite thing about the 2012ers is simply that I enjoy being exposed to people who are just utterly batshit fucking crazy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Huh .
My favorite thing about the 2012ers is simply that I enjoy being exposed to people who are just utterly batshit fucking crazy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Huh.
My favorite thing about the 2012ers is simply that I enjoy being exposed to people who are just utterly batshit fucking crazy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875797</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877985</id>
	<title>Re:Amateurs</title>
	<author>Eil</author>
	<datestamp>1256553900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Penn and Teller did an entire Bullshit episode on this. Basically, the conclusion was: The Mayans themselves never predicted any doomsday. At all. They couldn't even predict the annihilation of their own civilization, let alone the human race. Their descendants don't know anything about a supposed doomsday. The whole was something invented by some crackpot authors to sell books to and get attention from gullible people. Just like every other doomsday prophesy in history.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Penn and Teller did an entire Bullshit episode on this .
Basically , the conclusion was : The Mayans themselves never predicted any doomsday .
At all .
They could n't even predict the annihilation of their own civilization , let alone the human race .
Their descendants do n't know anything about a supposed doomsday .
The whole was something invented by some crackpot authors to sell books to and get attention from gullible people .
Just like every other doomsday prophesy in history .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Penn and Teller did an entire Bullshit episode on this.
Basically, the conclusion was: The Mayans themselves never predicted any doomsday.
At all.
They couldn't even predict the annihilation of their own civilization, let alone the human race.
Their descendants don't know anything about a supposed doomsday.
The whole was something invented by some crackpot authors to sell books to and get attention from gullible people.
Just like every other doomsday prophesy in history.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875743</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29878755</id>
	<title>obligatory</title>
	<author>TRRosen</author>
	<datestamp>1256558460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tonight were gonna party like its 2219?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tonight were gon na party like its 2219 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tonight were gonna party like its 2219?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875989</id>
	<title>Well thats a relief</title>
	<author>hicks107</author>
	<datestamp>1256588820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well thats a relief</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well thats a relief</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well thats a relief</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875919</id>
	<title>So hard to plan...</title>
	<author>kanosereg</author>
	<datestamp>1256588520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
Damn, I blew off contributing to my 401(k) and kids 529 plans with the whole Mayan calendar apocalypse in mind.  Guess I'll have to rethink my (lack of) retirement plans...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Damn , I blew off contributing to my 401 ( k ) and kids 529 plans with the whole Mayan calendar apocalypse in mind .
Guess I 'll have to rethink my ( lack of ) retirement plans.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Damn, I blew off contributing to my 401(k) and kids 529 plans with the whole Mayan calendar apocalypse in mind.
Guess I'll have to rethink my (lack of) retirement plans...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29882325</id>
	<title>Mayan Well Face The Facts</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256649480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You Doomsday Deniers make me want to puke.  Man up and face the music.  12/12/12 is the end of the line, the final countdown and last call all rolled into one.  If you can't trust a Hollywood movie, New Age Prophets and the numerous paperback testimonials to a popular reinterpretation of a vanished ancient civilization's calendar what can you trust?<br>
&nbsp; You people are going to be so embarrassed when you wake up on 12/13/12 and find out just how wrong you were.  Except you won't be.  Waking up that is.  Because you'll be dead!  Just like everyone else!  So get over it already.</p><p>And have a nice day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You Doomsday Deniers make me want to puke .
Man up and face the music .
12/12/12 is the end of the line , the final countdown and last call all rolled into one .
If you ca n't trust a Hollywood movie , New Age Prophets and the numerous paperback testimonials to a popular reinterpretation of a vanished ancient civilization 's calendar what can you trust ?
  You people are going to be so embarrassed when you wake up on 12/13/12 and find out just how wrong you were .
Except you wo n't be .
Waking up that is .
Because you 'll be dead !
Just like everyone else !
So get over it already.And have a nice day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You Doomsday Deniers make me want to puke.
Man up and face the music.
12/12/12 is the end of the line, the final countdown and last call all rolled into one.
If you can't trust a Hollywood movie, New Age Prophets and the numerous paperback testimonials to a popular reinterpretation of a vanished ancient civilization's calendar what can you trust?
  You people are going to be so embarrassed when you wake up on 12/13/12 and find out just how wrong you were.
Except you won't be.
Waking up that is.
Because you'll be dead!
Just like everyone else!
So get over it already.And have a nice day.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29880941</id>
	<title>Re:How do you debunk a myth?</title>
	<author>ps2os2</author>
	<datestamp>1256580600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait you are bringing truth to the discussion stop the presses ??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait you are bringing truth to the discussion stop the presses ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait you are bringing truth to the discussion stop the presses ?
?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875769</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875711</id>
	<title>Terence McKenna knew...</title>
	<author>Terminus32</author>
	<datestamp>1256587500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Link: <a href="http://fusionanomaly.net/2012.html" title="fusionanomaly.net" rel="nofollow">http://fusionanomaly.net/2012.html</a> [fusionanomaly.net]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Link : http : //fusionanomaly.net/2012.html [ fusionanomaly.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Link: http://fusionanomaly.net/2012.html [fusionanomaly.net]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876195</id>
	<title>Re:Oh thats good news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256589960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>my mortgage will not</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>my mortgage will not</tokentext>
<sentencetext>my mortgage will not</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875843</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876469</id>
	<title>Another conspiracy</title>
	<author>Patrick Manderson</author>
	<datestamp>1256548020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is all we need, a conspiracy about a conspiracy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is all we need , a conspiracy about a conspiracy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is all we need, a conspiracy about a conspiracy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876017</id>
	<title>Just wait..</title>
	<author>Tibia1</author>
	<datestamp>1256589000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>until they realized they have miscalculated it <i>again</i>, and they find the date to be less than the year 2000. Now that's going to be embarrassing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>until they realized they have miscalculated it again , and they find the date to be less than the year 2000 .
Now that 's going to be embarrassing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>until they realized they have miscalculated it again, and they find the date to be less than the year 2000.
Now that's going to be embarrassing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876361</id>
	<title>BOOM!</title>
	<author>sitarlo</author>
	<datestamp>1256590680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My world comes to an end on April 15th every year!</htmltext>
<tokenext>My world comes to an end on April 15th every year !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My world comes to an end on April 15th every year!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876639</id>
	<title>Re:My favorite thing about the 2012ers...</title>
	<author>jollyreaper</author>
	<datestamp>1256548680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The Mayans actually had dates carved into stylae which took place long, long after 2012. For example:<br>For example, on the west panel at the Temple of Inscriptions in Palenque, a section of the text projects into the future to the 80th Calendar Round (CR) 'anniversary' of the famous Palenque ruler K'inich Janaab' Pakal's accession to the throne (Pakal's accession occurred on a Calendar Round date 5 Lamat 1 Mol, at Long Count 9.9.2.4.8 equivalent to 27 July 615 CE).[12] It does this by commencing with Pakal's birthdate 9.8.9.13.0 8 Ajaw 13 Pop (24 March 603 CE) and adding to it the Distance Number 10.11.10.5.8.[13] This calculation arrives at the 80th Calendar Round since his accession, a day that also has a CR date of 5 Lamat 1 Mol, but which lies over 4,000 years in the future from Pakal's time--the day 21 October in the year 4772. The inscription notes that this day would fall eight days after the completion of the 1st piktun [since the creation or zero date of the Long Count system], where the piktun is the next-highest order above the b'ak'tun in the Long Count. If the completion date of that piktun--13 October 4772--were to be written out in Long Count notation, it could be represented as 1.0.0.0.0.0. The 80th CR anniversary date, eight days later, would be 1.0.0.0.0.8 5 Lamat 1 Mol.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican\_Long\_Count\_calendar#2012\_and\_the\_Long\_Count" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican\_Long\_Count\_calendar#2012\_and\_the\_Long\_Count</a> [wikipedia.org] [wikipedia.org]</p></div><p>I read all that hearing Sheldon's voice in my head.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Mayans actually had dates carved into stylae which took place long , long after 2012 .
For example : For example , on the west panel at the Temple of Inscriptions in Palenque , a section of the text projects into the future to the 80th Calendar Round ( CR ) 'anniversary ' of the famous Palenque ruler K'inich Janaab ' Pakal 's accession to the throne ( Pakal 's accession occurred on a Calendar Round date 5 Lamat 1 Mol , at Long Count 9.9.2.4.8 equivalent to 27 July 615 CE ) .
[ 12 ] It does this by commencing with Pakal 's birthdate 9.8.9.13.0 8 Ajaw 13 Pop ( 24 March 603 CE ) and adding to it the Distance Number 10.11.10.5.8 .
[ 13 ] This calculation arrives at the 80th Calendar Round since his accession , a day that also has a CR date of 5 Lamat 1 Mol , but which lies over 4,000 years in the future from Pakal 's time--the day 21 October in the year 4772 .
The inscription notes that this day would fall eight days after the completion of the 1st piktun [ since the creation or zero date of the Long Count system ] , where the piktun is the next-highest order above the b'ak'tun in the Long Count .
If the completion date of that piktun--13 October 4772--were to be written out in Long Count notation , it could be represented as 1.0.0.0.0.0 .
The 80th CR anniversary date , eight days later , would be 1.0.0.0.0.8 5 Lamat 1 Mol.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican \ _Long \ _Count \ _calendar # 2012 \ _and \ _the \ _Long \ _Count [ wikipedia.org ] [ wikipedia.org ] I read all that hearing Sheldon 's voice in my head .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Mayans actually had dates carved into stylae which took place long, long after 2012.
For example:For example, on the west panel at the Temple of Inscriptions in Palenque, a section of the text projects into the future to the 80th Calendar Round (CR) 'anniversary' of the famous Palenque ruler K'inich Janaab' Pakal's accession to the throne (Pakal's accession occurred on a Calendar Round date 5 Lamat 1 Mol, at Long Count 9.9.2.4.8 equivalent to 27 July 615 CE).
[12] It does this by commencing with Pakal's birthdate 9.8.9.13.0 8 Ajaw 13 Pop (24 March 603 CE) and adding to it the Distance Number 10.11.10.5.8.
[13] This calculation arrives at the 80th Calendar Round since his accession, a day that also has a CR date of 5 Lamat 1 Mol, but which lies over 4,000 years in the future from Pakal's time--the day 21 October in the year 4772.
The inscription notes that this day would fall eight days after the completion of the 1st piktun [since the creation or zero date of the Long Count system], where the piktun is the next-highest order above the b'ak'tun in the Long Count.
If the completion date of that piktun--13 October 4772--were to be written out in Long Count notation, it could be represented as 1.0.0.0.0.0.
The 80th CR anniversary date, eight days later, would be 1.0.0.0.0.8 5 Lamat 1 Mol.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican\_Long\_Count\_calendar#2012\_and\_the\_Long\_Count [wikipedia.org] [wikipedia.org]I read all that hearing Sheldon's voice in my head.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29880723</id>
	<title>Re:Article wrong, GMT correlation not wrong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256577420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;The only other correlation used by any but fringe scholars places</p><p>&gt; There is a date on the West Panel of the Temple of Inscriptions from Palenque [...] that makes it quite obvious that the Maya believed that there was a 14th through 20th Baktun.</p><p>So the Maya had no fringe scholars?</p><p>I think it is a crazy hypothesis yes. But there is also no good evidence against the fact that they believed the 13th would be the last.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; The only other correlation used by any but fringe scholars places &gt; There is a date on the West Panel of the Temple of Inscriptions from Palenque [ ... ] that makes it quite obvious that the Maya believed that there was a 14th through 20th Baktun.So the Maya had no fringe scholars ? I think it is a crazy hypothesis yes .
But there is also no good evidence against the fact that they believed the 13th would be the last .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;The only other correlation used by any but fringe scholars places&gt; There is a date on the West Panel of the Temple of Inscriptions from Palenque [...] that makes it quite obvious that the Maya believed that there was a 14th through 20th Baktun.So the Maya had no fringe scholars?I think it is a crazy hypothesis yes.
But there is also no good evidence against the fact that they believed the 13th would be the last.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876133</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29878465</id>
	<title>Flamebait?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256556540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are members of the christian cult to be given a pass when it comes to hysterical attention-seeking?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are members of the christian cult to be given a pass when it comes to hysterical attention-seeking ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are members of the christian cult to be given a pass when it comes to hysterical attention-seeking?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875853</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29880827</id>
	<title>Re:From the virgin geeks - Thanks a lot!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256578860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Your head a-splode</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your head a-splode</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your head a-splode</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29878307</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29882653</id>
	<title>Actually it ends sooner, with a few years.</title>
	<author>unity100</author>
	<datestamp>1256652060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>numerous more researches were done and it was found out that it ended a few years earlier than 2012.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>numerous more researches were done and it was found out that it ended a few years earlier than 2012 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>numerous more researches were done and it was found out that it ended a few years earlier than 2012.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29878133</id>
	<title>Re:Its never going to stop..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256554560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It should happen right about.. now... *</p></div><p>Did you mean it should happen right abo</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It should happen right about.. now... * Did you mean it should happen right abo</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It should happen right about.. now... *Did you mean it should happen right abo
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876137</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876371</id>
	<title>Re:My favorite thing about the 2012ers...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256590740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>So instead, the *real* end-of-time, comes in October 4772 ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So instead , the * real * end-of-time , comes in October 4772 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So instead, the *real* end-of-time, comes in October 4772 ?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875769</id>
	<title>How do you debunk a myth?</title>
	<author>captaindomon</author>
	<datestamp>1256587800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wait a minute, how do you "debunk" a myth or religious belief? The only way to "debunk" it is to wait until Dec 13th and then say, "See, the world didn't end afterall." Even that approach can run into problems with myths and religious beliefs "No, it DID happen, but it was a SPIRITUAL end to the world" etc. etc.

This approach is the same as a religious leader "Proving" a scientific theorem based on revelation. These are different structures for argument, folks, and they can't be interchanged that way.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait a minute , how do you " debunk " a myth or religious belief ?
The only way to " debunk " it is to wait until Dec 13th and then say , " See , the world did n't end afterall .
" Even that approach can run into problems with myths and religious beliefs " No , it DID happen , but it was a SPIRITUAL end to the world " etc .
etc . This approach is the same as a religious leader " Proving " a scientific theorem based on revelation .
These are different structures for argument , folks , and they ca n't be interchanged that way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait a minute, how do you "debunk" a myth or religious belief?
The only way to "debunk" it is to wait until Dec 13th and then say, "See, the world didn't end afterall.
" Even that approach can run into problems with myths and religious beliefs "No, it DID happen, but it was a SPIRITUAL end to the world" etc.
etc.

This approach is the same as a religious leader "Proving" a scientific theorem based on revelation.
These are different structures for argument, folks, and they can't be interchanged that way.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29881163</id>
	<title>Re:How do you debunk a myth?</title>
	<author>kaoshin</author>
	<datestamp>1256585100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe it will happen, but create a ripple back in time to stop it before it happened?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe it will happen , but create a ripple back in time to stop it before it happened ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe it will happen, but create a ripple back in time to stop it before it happened?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876979</id>
	<title>Next Stop... The Y2K38 Bug</title>
	<author>tunapez</author>
	<datestamp>1256549880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This means I'll have to wait until <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year\_2038\_problem" title="wikipedia.org">2038</a> [wikipedia.org] when Linux time ends? Gonna be a bit harder to convince the chix with the crystals on that one. Would everyone please help curtail the x64 transition until then?</p><p>K'thx!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This means I 'll have to wait until 2038 [ wikipedia.org ] when Linux time ends ?
Gon na be a bit harder to convince the chix with the crystals on that one .
Would everyone please help curtail the x64 transition until then ? K'thx !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This means I'll have to wait until 2038 [wikipedia.org] when Linux time ends?
Gonna be a bit harder to convince the chix with the crystals on that one.
Would everyone please help curtail the x64 transition until then?K'thx!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875677</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876909</id>
	<title>POC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256549640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's going to really ruin the movie they just finished making!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's going to really ruin the movie they just finished making !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's going to really ruin the movie they just finished making!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29879957</id>
	<title>That's not debunking</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256567940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The concordance of the Mayan and Julian calendars is pretty well founded. Shifting it by 208 years doesn't work.</p><p>No, <a href="http://decipherment.wordpress.com/2008/12/20/what-will-not-happen-in-2012/" title="wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">here</a> [wordpress.com]'s the real debunking, from one of the guys who involuntarily helped with the bunking:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I present a mea culpa and a rectification. In 1996, [David] Stuart and I [Stephen Houston] discussed part of the text on Tortuguero Monument 6, suggesting that, on 13.0.0.0.0 4 Ajaw 3 K&rsquo;ank&rsquo;in, Julian Dec. 10, AD 2012, a god will &ldquo;descend,&rdquo; ye-ma or yemal, in what was held to be a nearly unique example of Classic-era prophecy. Why unique? because when the Classic texts refer to the future, they typically encompass &ldquo;impersonal temporal events that are safely predictable&rdquo; (Houston and Stuart 1996:301, fn. 7).</p></div><p>He then goes on to show that the only prediction in that text is that "at date so-and-so, the 13th b'ak'tun will end", and that the part about the blackness and descending god(s) </p><p><div class="quote"><p>pertains to the dedication of the building associated with the sculpture. It has nothing to do with prophecy or the supposed, dread events that await us in AD 2012.</p></div><p>The newest posting on the same blog is <a href="http://decipherment.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/q-a-about-2012/" title="wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">Q &amp; A about 2012</a> [wordpress.com] by Mayanologist wunderkind David Stuart.</p><p>The 13th baktun seems not to be associated with the end (baktuns run till 20, and then the next piktun begins) as with the beginning of the world, the creation myth. 13 was often used instead of zero in dates in the mythic past. So numerology might make the Mayan date for 2012-12-21 special by association, but nothing suggests that they saw it as a cataclysmic date. To me that reference on the stele sounds more like "May this monument last a thousand years". 2500 years, actually. Even if the site was destroyed, it sort of did.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The concordance of the Mayan and Julian calendars is pretty well founded .
Shifting it by 208 years does n't work.No , here [ wordpress.com ] 's the real debunking , from one of the guys who involuntarily helped with the bunking : I present a mea culpa and a rectification .
In 1996 , [ David ] Stuart and I [ Stephen Houston ] discussed part of the text on Tortuguero Monument 6 , suggesting that , on 13.0.0.0.0 4 Ajaw 3 K    ank    in , Julian Dec. 10 , AD 2012 , a god will    descend ,    ye-ma or yemal , in what was held to be a nearly unique example of Classic-era prophecy .
Why unique ?
because when the Classic texts refer to the future , they typically encompass    impersonal temporal events that are safely predictable    ( Houston and Stuart 1996 : 301 , fn .
7 ) .He then goes on to show that the only prediction in that text is that " at date so-and-so , the 13th b'ak'tun will end " , and that the part about the blackness and descending god ( s ) pertains to the dedication of the building associated with the sculpture .
It has nothing to do with prophecy or the supposed , dread events that await us in AD 2012.The newest posting on the same blog is Q &amp; A about 2012 [ wordpress.com ] by Mayanologist wunderkind David Stuart.The 13th baktun seems not to be associated with the end ( baktuns run till 20 , and then the next piktun begins ) as with the beginning of the world , the creation myth .
13 was often used instead of zero in dates in the mythic past .
So numerology might make the Mayan date for 2012-12-21 special by association , but nothing suggests that they saw it as a cataclysmic date .
To me that reference on the stele sounds more like " May this monument last a thousand years " .
2500 years , actually .
Even if the site was destroyed , it sort of did .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The concordance of the Mayan and Julian calendars is pretty well founded.
Shifting it by 208 years doesn't work.No, here [wordpress.com]'s the real debunking, from one of the guys who involuntarily helped with the bunking:I present a mea culpa and a rectification.
In 1996, [David] Stuart and I [Stephen Houston] discussed part of the text on Tortuguero Monument 6, suggesting that, on 13.0.0.0.0 4 Ajaw 3 K’ank’in, Julian Dec. 10, AD 2012, a god will “descend,” ye-ma or yemal, in what was held to be a nearly unique example of Classic-era prophecy.
Why unique?
because when the Classic texts refer to the future, they typically encompass “impersonal temporal events that are safely predictable” (Houston and Stuart 1996:301, fn.
7).He then goes on to show that the only prediction in that text is that "at date so-and-so, the 13th b'ak'tun will end", and that the part about the blackness and descending god(s) pertains to the dedication of the building associated with the sculpture.
It has nothing to do with prophecy or the supposed, dread events that await us in AD 2012.The newest posting on the same blog is Q &amp; A about 2012 [wordpress.com] by Mayanologist wunderkind David Stuart.The 13th baktun seems not to be associated with the end (baktuns run till 20, and then the next piktun begins) as with the beginning of the world, the creation myth.
13 was often used instead of zero in dates in the mythic past.
So numerology might make the Mayan date for 2012-12-21 special by association, but nothing suggests that they saw it as a cataclysmic date.
To me that reference on the stele sounds more like "May this monument last a thousand years".
2500 years, actually.
Even if the site was destroyed, it sort of did.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877231</id>
	<title>Whatever...</title>
	<author>hackus</author>
	<datestamp>1256550900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As I see it, whenever a calendar marks the changing of an age and in particular the Mayan calendar which, make no mistake these stone agers knew their mathematics, I take pause.</p><p>Secondly, I find it odd, all of a sudden now, after what 200 years of studying this calendar someone with "never before seen insight into Mayan calendar mathematics and observational astronomy" says "Woops, everyone goofed its actually XXXX."</p><p>That is sort of like myself declaring, well...all of you guys thought Octover 27th was tomorrow, but I am smarter than you all, and everyone in the last 200 years that looked at the problem, and I say its 200 years from now.</p><p>The mathematics has been beaten like a dead horse, and indeed the age ends on December 21st on the solstice marker.</p><p>Now, I am not so sure anything dire is going to happen, but I do believe at the end of any age, its closing represents a judgement on the future path time will proceed.</p><p>Be it good or bad, I hope humanity gets exactly what it deserves.</p><p>-Hack</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As I see it , whenever a calendar marks the changing of an age and in particular the Mayan calendar which , make no mistake these stone agers knew their mathematics , I take pause.Secondly , I find it odd , all of a sudden now , after what 200 years of studying this calendar someone with " never before seen insight into Mayan calendar mathematics and observational astronomy " says " Woops , everyone goofed its actually XXXX .
" That is sort of like myself declaring , well...all of you guys thought Octover 27th was tomorrow , but I am smarter than you all , and everyone in the last 200 years that looked at the problem , and I say its 200 years from now.The mathematics has been beaten like a dead horse , and indeed the age ends on December 21st on the solstice marker.Now , I am not so sure anything dire is going to happen , but I do believe at the end of any age , its closing represents a judgement on the future path time will proceed.Be it good or bad , I hope humanity gets exactly what it deserves.-Hack</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As I see it, whenever a calendar marks the changing of an age and in particular the Mayan calendar which, make no mistake these stone agers knew their mathematics, I take pause.Secondly, I find it odd, all of a sudden now, after what 200 years of studying this calendar someone with "never before seen insight into Mayan calendar mathematics and observational astronomy" says "Woops, everyone goofed its actually XXXX.
"That is sort of like myself declaring, well...all of you guys thought Octover 27th was tomorrow, but I am smarter than you all, and everyone in the last 200 years that looked at the problem, and I say its 200 years from now.The mathematics has been beaten like a dead horse, and indeed the age ends on December 21st on the solstice marker.Now, I am not so sure anything dire is going to happen, but I do believe at the end of any age, its closing represents a judgement on the future path time will proceed.Be it good or bad, I hope humanity gets exactly what it deserves.-Hack</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877807</id>
	<title>Demotivational Apocolypse</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256553180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just wait until 31DEC2009 - My Dispair Inc calander predicts the end of the world THEN.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just wait until 31DEC2009 - My Dispair Inc calander predicts the end of the world THEN .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just wait until 31DEC2009 - My Dispair Inc calander predicts the end of the world THEN.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29886223</id>
	<title>Re:From the virgin geeks - Thanks a lot!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256669040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You reminded me.</p><p>http://xkcd.com/386/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You reminded me.http : //xkcd.com/386/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You reminded me.http://xkcd.com/386/</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876153</id>
	<title>Re:Rapture 2012</title>
	<author>interploy</author>
	<datestamp>1256589600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Please tell me you're joking...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Please tell me you 're joking.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please tell me you're joking...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875691</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876573</id>
	<title>Once every 25k years,this means humans have seen 4</title>
	<author>plasmacutter</author>
	<datestamp>1256548440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you go by current fossil records, Modern man has seen 4 such cycles, and still managed to advance technology in a roughly exponential trend throughout history.</p><p>nothing to see here, move along!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you go by current fossil records , Modern man has seen 4 such cycles , and still managed to advance technology in a roughly exponential trend throughout history.nothing to see here , move along !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you go by current fossil records, Modern man has seen 4 such cycles, and still managed to advance technology in a roughly exponential trend throughout history.nothing to see here, move along!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875943</id>
	<title>Strange</title>
	<author>Gravitron 5000</author>
	<datestamp>1256588580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When I run out of days on my calendar, I usually just buy a new one.  It would certainly make new years parties more interesting if every new year was a potential end of days scenario though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I run out of days on my calendar , I usually just buy a new one .
It would certainly make new years parties more interesting if every new year was a potential end of days scenario though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I run out of days on my calendar, I usually just buy a new one.
It would certainly make new years parties more interesting if every new year was a potential end of days scenario though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877989</id>
	<title>NSA funded propaganda</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256553960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tell you! THEY know the End is near. THEY don't want us to panic like the Mayans did and destroy ourselves!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tell you !
THEY know the End is near .
THEY do n't want us to panic like the Mayans did and destroy ourselves !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tell you!
THEY know the End is near.
THEY don't want us to panic like the Mayans did and destroy ourselves!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876821</id>
	<title>What? Shit!</title>
	<author>Greyfox</author>
	<datestamp>1256549340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was so looking forward to not being pulled out of retirement to fix the UNIX Y2038 problem due to the world having been destroyed 26 years earlier. Oh well guess I'd better start printing those business cards, since I'm pretty sure Congress was also banking on the world ending in 2012 to solve their Social Security problem...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was so looking forward to not being pulled out of retirement to fix the UNIX Y2038 problem due to the world having been destroyed 26 years earlier .
Oh well guess I 'd better start printing those business cards , since I 'm pretty sure Congress was also banking on the world ending in 2012 to solve their Social Security problem.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was so looking forward to not being pulled out of retirement to fix the UNIX Y2038 problem due to the world having been destroyed 26 years earlier.
Oh well guess I'd better start printing those business cards, since I'm pretty sure Congress was also banking on the world ending in 2012 to solve their Social Security problem...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876529</id>
	<title>Re:From the virgin geeks - Thanks a lot!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256548200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That only works if you were the last man on Earth, sorry. And even then, not even.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That only works if you were the last man on Earth , sorry .
And even then , not even .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That only works if you were the last man on Earth, sorry.
And even then, not even.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875727</id>
	<title>Surprise</title>
	<author>sheepofblue</author>
	<datestamp>1256587500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Sheeple running around yelling the sky is falling is incorrect.... wow that is the first time that has occurred.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Sheeple running around yelling the sky is falling is incorrect.... wow that is the first time that has occurred .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Sheeple running around yelling the sky is falling is incorrect.... wow that is the first time that has occurred.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875691</id>
	<title>Rapture 2012</title>
	<author>ub3r n3u7r4l1st</author>
	<datestamp>1256587440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Many Christians waiting to be raptured on 2012... Now they have to wait again!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Many Christians waiting to be raptured on 2012... Now they have to wait again !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many Christians waiting to be raptured on 2012... Now they have to wait again!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877521</id>
	<title>Y2012 problem: Mayan calendar runs out</title>
	<author>David Gerard</author>
	<datestamp>1256552040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The New Age spiritually aware around the world are running up against <a href="http://notnews.today.com/2009/06/07/y2012-problem-mayan-calendar-runs-out/" title="today.com">the end of the Mayan Long Count Calendar</a> [today.com]. Mayan date 12.19.19.17.19 will occur on December 20, 2012, followed by the start of the fourteenth cycle, 13.0.0.0.0, on December 21st.

</p><p>The event was first flagged by megalith scientist Terence McKenna. The end of the thirteenth cycle would break many megalith calculations &mdash; which conventionally use only the last four numbers to save on standing stones &mdash; with fears of spiritual collapse, disruption of ley lines, Ben Goldacre driving the chiropractors back into the sea and the return of the great god Quetzalcoatl and the consequent destruction of all life on earth.

</p><p>Megalith programmers from 4000 years ago are being dredged up from peat bogs and pressed into service to get the henges updated to handle the turnover in the date. &ldquo;It could be worse,&rdquo; said one. &ldquo;I could still be programming COBOL.&rdquo;

</p><p>Sceptics may choose the Winter Solstice on December 22nd (13.0.0.0.1) to attack, to take advantage of weakened qi. In case vital services are temporarily cut off, spiritually aware persons should stock up on crystals, copies of Sun Signs, a duly blessed tarot deck and other essentials. &ldquo;They should get as well a suitable selection of blessed Hopi ear candles,&rdquo; said Y2012 consultant Ravenwoo Granola, DD, 31, Ph.D (Univ. P.T. Barnum Mail-Order), &ldquo;unicorn posters, holistic medicines, Silver RavenWolf books, purple clothing, protective pentacles &mdash; earrings for the ladies, pendants for the gents &mdash; make sure the house is absolutely robust in feng shui, your energetic vibrations are aligned and your Eostre rituals are up to date and keep only homeopathic quantities of money around. I&rsquo;ll be happy to take on the danger of handling the rest. Here&rsquo;s a price list. Everyfink for the spiritual survivalist.&rdquo;

</p><p>Others dismiss the problem. Sandra Noble of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies considers the Y2012 problem &ldquo;a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in.&rdquo; However, Y2012 consultants deride &ldquo;2012-deniers&rdquo; for having their heads in the sand as to the vast and overwhelming spiritual importance to humanity of keeping their consultancies rolling.

</p><p> <i>Illustration:</i> <a href="http://notnews.today.com/2009/06/07/y2012-problem-mayan-calendar-runs-out/blue-screen-of-stonehenge/" title="today.com">Blue screen of Stonehenge</a> [today.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The New Age spiritually aware around the world are running up against the end of the Mayan Long Count Calendar [ today.com ] .
Mayan date 12.19.19.17.19 will occur on December 20 , 2012 , followed by the start of the fourteenth cycle , 13.0.0.0.0 , on December 21st .
The event was first flagged by megalith scientist Terence McKenna .
The end of the thirteenth cycle would break many megalith calculations    which conventionally use only the last four numbers to save on standing stones    with fears of spiritual collapse , disruption of ley lines , Ben Goldacre driving the chiropractors back into the sea and the return of the great god Quetzalcoatl and the consequent destruction of all life on earth .
Megalith programmers from 4000 years ago are being dredged up from peat bogs and pressed into service to get the henges updated to handle the turnover in the date .
   It could be worse ,    said one .
   I could still be programming COBOL.    Sceptics may choose the Winter Solstice on December 22nd ( 13.0.0.0.1 ) to attack , to take advantage of weakened qi .
In case vital services are temporarily cut off , spiritually aware persons should stock up on crystals , copies of Sun Signs , a duly blessed tarot deck and other essentials .
   They should get as well a suitable selection of blessed Hopi ear candles ,    said Y2012 consultant Ravenwoo Granola , DD , 31 , Ph.D ( Univ .
P.T. Barnum Mail-Order ) ,    unicorn posters , holistic medicines , Silver RavenWolf books , purple clothing , protective pentacles    earrings for the ladies , pendants for the gents    make sure the house is absolutely robust in feng shui , your energetic vibrations are aligned and your Eostre rituals are up to date and keep only homeopathic quantities of money around .
I    ll be happy to take on the danger of handling the rest .
Here    s a price list .
Everyfink for the spiritual survivalist.    Others dismiss the problem .
Sandra Noble of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies considers the Y2012 problem    a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in.    However , Y2012 consultants deride    2012-deniers    for having their heads in the sand as to the vast and overwhelming spiritual importance to humanity of keeping their consultancies rolling .
Illustration : Blue screen of Stonehenge [ today.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The New Age spiritually aware around the world are running up against the end of the Mayan Long Count Calendar [today.com].
Mayan date 12.19.19.17.19 will occur on December 20, 2012, followed by the start of the fourteenth cycle, 13.0.0.0.0, on December 21st.
The event was first flagged by megalith scientist Terence McKenna.
The end of the thirteenth cycle would break many megalith calculations — which conventionally use only the last four numbers to save on standing stones — with fears of spiritual collapse, disruption of ley lines, Ben Goldacre driving the chiropractors back into the sea and the return of the great god Quetzalcoatl and the consequent destruction of all life on earth.
Megalith programmers from 4000 years ago are being dredged up from peat bogs and pressed into service to get the henges updated to handle the turnover in the date.
“It could be worse,” said one.
“I could still be programming COBOL.”

Sceptics may choose the Winter Solstice on December 22nd (13.0.0.0.1) to attack, to take advantage of weakened qi.
In case vital services are temporarily cut off, spiritually aware persons should stock up on crystals, copies of Sun Signs, a duly blessed tarot deck and other essentials.
“They should get as well a suitable selection of blessed Hopi ear candles,” said Y2012 consultant Ravenwoo Granola, DD, 31, Ph.D (Univ.
P.T. Barnum Mail-Order), “unicorn posters, holistic medicines, Silver RavenWolf books, purple clothing, protective pentacles — earrings for the ladies, pendants for the gents — make sure the house is absolutely robust in feng shui, your energetic vibrations are aligned and your Eostre rituals are up to date and keep only homeopathic quantities of money around.
I’ll be happy to take on the danger of handling the rest.
Here’s a price list.
Everyfink for the spiritual survivalist.”

Others dismiss the problem.
Sandra Noble of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies considers the Y2012 problem “a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in.” However, Y2012 consultants deride “2012-deniers” for having their heads in the sand as to the vast and overwhelming spiritual importance to humanity of keeping their consultancies rolling.
Illustration: Blue screen of Stonehenge [today.com].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29878859</id>
	<title>See BBC   Jacket,Chole Handbags</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256559300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
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<sentencetext>
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JD fusion sport shoes,brand shoes, fashion shoe with competetive price do dropship1) Made of superior quality upper materials.2) Unique designs, various colors and models are available.3) Original packing with box, tags and labels.4) Reasonable/competitive price : with the factory price.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29883015</id>
	<title>Wait...</title>
	<author>TheVelvetFlamebait</author>
	<datestamp>1256654160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... so I have to wait 111 years before getting laid?</p><p>Better stock up on the Viagra.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... so I have to wait 111 years before getting laid ? Better stock up on the Viagra .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... so I have to wait 111 years before getting laid?Better stock up on the Viagra.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875677</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29881065</id>
	<title>Armageddon is lame</title>
	<author>stms</author>
	<datestamp>1256583300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>As many conspiracy theorys that I like to be a part of I can never get into the end of the world ones maybe it's because if their right nobody knows but if their wrong everyone knows and what's the point in being right if you can't shove it in anyones face.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As many conspiracy theorys that I like to be a part of I can never get into the end of the world ones maybe it 's because if their right nobody knows but if their wrong everyone knows and what 's the point in being right if you ca n't shove it in anyones face .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As many conspiracy theorys that I like to be a part of I can never get into the end of the world ones maybe it's because if their right nobody knows but if their wrong everyone knows and what's the point in being right if you can't shove it in anyones face.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876065</id>
	<title>Re:My favorite thing about the 2012ers...</title>
	<author>Eudial</author>
	<datestamp>1256589240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQB2-Kmiic" title="youtube.com">This song</a> [youtube.com] suggests that man may still be alive in year 2525, year 3535, year 4545, year 5555, year 6565, year 7510, year 8510, but probably not year 9595. Clearly, we knew more in the '70s than the mayans ever did (and the people in the '70s had lots of inventions we have now, like electricity and television -- they were so much like our civilization!), so doomsday is probably between year 8510 and 9595.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This song [ youtube.com ] suggests that man may still be alive in year 2525 , year 3535 , year 4545 , year 5555 , year 6565 , year 7510 , year 8510 , but probably not year 9595 .
Clearly , we knew more in the '70s than the mayans ever did ( and the people in the '70s had lots of inventions we have now , like electricity and television -- they were so much like our civilization !
) , so doomsday is probably between year 8510 and 9595 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This song [youtube.com] suggests that man may still be alive in year 2525, year 3535, year 4545, year 5555, year 6565, year 7510, year 8510, but probably not year 9595.
Clearly, we knew more in the '70s than the mayans ever did (and the people in the '70s had lots of inventions we have now, like electricity and television -- they were so much like our civilization!
), so doomsday is probably between year 8510 and 9595.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875797</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29879157</id>
	<title>unix epoch</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256561160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Come on! Everybody knows that the world will end at January 18, 2038</p><p>Why they didn't choose 64 bits to start with? This would have postponed the end of the world by some amount!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Come on !
Everybody knows that the world will end at January 18 , 2038Why they did n't choose 64 bits to start with ?
This would have postponed the end of the world by some amount !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Come on!
Everybody knows that the world will end at January 18, 2038Why they didn't choose 64 bits to start with?
This would have postponed the end of the world by some amount!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877213</id>
	<title>I know when I will happen...</title>
	<author>stacybro</author>
	<datestamp>1256550780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It will happen the day after I win the 100 million dollar jackpot in the lottery.  That is why I don't play the lotto.  I am saving the world and you should all appreciate me for it.  <br>If there is anyone out there that is interested in ending the world, feel free to send me the ticket that is guaranteed to win and there you go.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It will happen the day after I win the 100 million dollar jackpot in the lottery .
That is why I do n't play the lotto .
I am saving the world and you should all appreciate me for it .
If there is anyone out there that is interested in ending the world , feel free to send me the ticket that is guaranteed to win and there you go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will happen the day after I win the 100 million dollar jackpot in the lottery.
That is why I don't play the lotto.
I am saving the world and you should all appreciate me for it.
If there is anyone out there that is interested in ending the world, feel free to send me the ticket that is guaranteed to win and there you go.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877991</id>
	<title>2020</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256553960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where in the article does it say 2020? It mentions it in the title...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where in the article does it say 2020 ?
It mentions it in the title.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where in the article does it say 2020?
It mentions it in the title...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875999</id>
	<title>Re:How do you debunk a myth?</title>
	<author>brian0918</author>
	<datestamp>1256588880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wait a minute, how do you "debunk" a myth or religious belief? The only way to "debunk" it is to wait until Dec 13th and then say, "See, the world didn't end afterall."</p></div><p>Actually, even if the world does end on the predicted date, the prophesies are still not true. There's no basis for their claims, so they're arbitrary.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait a minute , how do you " debunk " a myth or religious belief ?
The only way to " debunk " it is to wait until Dec 13th and then say , " See , the world did n't end afterall .
" Actually , even if the world does end on the predicted date , the prophesies are still not true .
There 's no basis for their claims , so they 're arbitrary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait a minute, how do you "debunk" a myth or religious belief?
The only way to "debunk" it is to wait until Dec 13th and then say, "See, the world didn't end afterall.
"Actually, even if the world does end on the predicted date, the prophesies are still not true.
There's no basis for their claims, so they're arbitrary.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875769</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29880157</id>
	<title>Blaphsemy!</title>
	<author>DynaSoar</author>
	<datestamp>1256570100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the beginning was Void. And a hand moved upon the face of the system monitor, writing</p><p>* 3D0G</p><p>and the command thus passed from monitor to Basic, and lo, the prompt was</p><p>]</p><p>And St. Woz saw this, and was pleased. The Fallen One, the Other Steve, was not so pleased, and what's new? But he hacketh not, so we careth not.</p><p>We are now (2009) exactly halfway between the Creation Event (1979) and the end of the Apple Calendar (2039) as has always been displayed upon my sacred terminal of IIgs and II's before it. As it is written, so let it be refreshed.</p><p>Scoff not, young ones, for what sort of entity might require you summon him with the command 3D0G, which is very nearly G0DS backwards? And why backwards if not for him to be able to read it from The Other Side?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the beginning was Void .
And a hand moved upon the face of the system monitor , writing * 3D0Gand the command thus passed from monitor to Basic , and lo , the prompt was ] And St. Woz saw this , and was pleased .
The Fallen One , the Other Steve , was not so pleased , and what 's new ?
But he hacketh not , so we careth not.We are now ( 2009 ) exactly halfway between the Creation Event ( 1979 ) and the end of the Apple Calendar ( 2039 ) as has always been displayed upon my sacred terminal of IIgs and II 's before it .
As it is written , so let it be refreshed.Scoff not , young ones , for what sort of entity might require you summon him with the command 3D0G , which is very nearly G0DS backwards ?
And why backwards if not for him to be able to read it from The Other Side ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the beginning was Void.
And a hand moved upon the face of the system monitor, writing* 3D0Gand the command thus passed from monitor to Basic, and lo, the prompt was]And St. Woz saw this, and was pleased.
The Fallen One, the Other Steve, was not so pleased, and what's new?
But he hacketh not, so we careth not.We are now (2009) exactly halfway between the Creation Event (1979) and the end of the Apple Calendar (2039) as has always been displayed upon my sacred terminal of IIgs and II's before it.
As it is written, so let it be refreshed.Scoff not, young ones, for what sort of entity might require you summon him with the command 3D0G, which is very nearly G0DS backwards?
And why backwards if not for him to be able to read it from The Other Side?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877675</id>
	<title>Re:How do you debunk a myth?</title>
	<author>tnk1</author>
	<datestamp>1256552700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, even having the date come and go is not 100\% guaranteed to debunk the myth.  In the 1840's a Christian sect in the US believed that the second coming would actually happen on October 22, 1844.  When the world did not end on that date, many lost faith, but others simply came up with reasons why it was the Second Coming, but they didn't have the things happen that they expected to happen.  Some examples include that being the date that no one else could be saved beyond, or that there was this big, big event that happened, but it was all happening in heaven, so we couldn't see it.</p><p>This was called the Great Disappointment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great\_Disappointment) and is an example of what happens when people start playing games with numbers and Biblical dates.  It's also an example that no matter how much proof you give some people, it's never enough for them to overcome a belief that they really, really like.  It doesn't even have to be religious, although that is most common.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , even having the date come and go is not 100 \ % guaranteed to debunk the myth .
In the 1840 's a Christian sect in the US believed that the second coming would actually happen on October 22 , 1844 .
When the world did not end on that date , many lost faith , but others simply came up with reasons why it was the Second Coming , but they did n't have the things happen that they expected to happen .
Some examples include that being the date that no one else could be saved beyond , or that there was this big , big event that happened , but it was all happening in heaven , so we could n't see it.This was called the Great Disappointment ( http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great \ _Disappointment ) and is an example of what happens when people start playing games with numbers and Biblical dates .
It 's also an example that no matter how much proof you give some people , it 's never enough for them to overcome a belief that they really , really like .
It does n't even have to be religious , although that is most common .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, even having the date come and go is not 100\% guaranteed to debunk the myth.
In the 1840's a Christian sect in the US believed that the second coming would actually happen on October 22, 1844.
When the world did not end on that date, many lost faith, but others simply came up with reasons why it was the Second Coming, but they didn't have the things happen that they expected to happen.
Some examples include that being the date that no one else could be saved beyond, or that there was this big, big event that happened, but it was all happening in heaven, so we couldn't see it.This was called the Great Disappointment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great\_Disappointment) and is an example of what happens when people start playing games with numbers and Biblical dates.
It's also an example that no matter how much proof you give some people, it's never enough for them to overcome a belief that they really, really like.
It doesn't even have to be religious, although that is most common.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875769</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876073</id>
	<title>end of world v. upheaval</title>
	<author>Onymous Coward</author>
	<datestamp>1256589240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So by now we all (?) know that the Mayans didn't claim anything about <em>the world ending</em>, but did they believe that the rollover of a major calendrical cycle would be a time of great change?  Google that for me?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So by now we all ( ?
) know that the Mayans did n't claim anything about the world ending , but did they believe that the rollover of a major calendrical cycle would be a time of great change ?
Google that for me ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So by now we all (?
) know that the Mayans didn't claim anything about the world ending, but did they believe that the rollover of a major calendrical cycle would be a time of great change?
Google that for me?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876201</id>
	<title>and in more startling news</title>
	<author>CHRONOSS2008</author>
	<datestamp>1256589960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>isnt that near earth asteroid thats possible to destroy all life in the 2020's and hten its second pass has like a 7\% chance to destroy us in the late 2030's?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>isnt that near earth asteroid thats possible to destroy all life in the 2020 's and hten its second pass has like a 7 \ % chance to destroy us in the late 2030 's ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>isnt that near earth asteroid thats possible to destroy all life in the 2020's and hten its second pass has like a 7\% chance to destroy us in the late 2030's?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29879841</id>
	<title>Re:How do you debunk a myth?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256566680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the equivalent of debunking that the new testament fortells that in the year 3000 everyone will spontaneously sprout wings and become angels.  The whole 2012 as the end of the world thing was never actually believed by the mayans in the first place, and the calender may not even be set to end on 2012 at all.  Its not debunking a religious belief, its debunking a modern belief that a certain religious belief existed in the first place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the equivalent of debunking that the new testament fortells that in the year 3000 everyone will spontaneously sprout wings and become angels .
The whole 2012 as the end of the world thing was never actually believed by the mayans in the first place , and the calender may not even be set to end on 2012 at all .
Its not debunking a religious belief , its debunking a modern belief that a certain religious belief existed in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the equivalent of debunking that the new testament fortells that in the year 3000 everyone will spontaneously sprout wings and become angels.
The whole 2012 as the end of the world thing was never actually believed by the mayans in the first place, and the calender may not even be set to end on 2012 at all.
Its not debunking a religious belief, its debunking a modern belief that a certain religious belief existed in the first place.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875769</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29887017</id>
	<title>The new, revised date is, of course ...</title>
	<author>Lord Flipper</author>
	<datestamp>1256672460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... when the Leafs win the Cup.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... when the Leafs win the Cup .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... when the Leafs win the Cup.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875679</id>
	<title>Its ok, m$ will still be supporting XP then too</title>
	<author>phonewebcam</author>
	<datestamp>1256587440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Those pesky end of life deadlines keep getting pushed back, even though we'll all be on Windows 666, the "fastest most secure OS we've ever launched"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Those pesky end of life deadlines keep getting pushed back , even though we 'll all be on Windows 666 , the " fastest most secure OS we 've ever launched "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those pesky end of life deadlines keep getting pushed back, even though we'll all be on Windows 666, the "fastest most secure OS we've ever launched"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875833</id>
	<title>Re:2220?</title>
	<author>93 Escort Wagon</author>
	<datestamp>1256588100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Does this mean we have to endure another round of shitty movies in 2217?</p></div><p>Yes, of course you will. Why would you think 2217 would be different than any other year?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this mean we have to endure another round of shitty movies in 2217 ? Yes , of course you will .
Why would you think 2217 would be different than any other year ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this mean we have to endure another round of shitty movies in 2217?Yes, of course you will.
Why would you think 2217 would be different than any other year?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875633</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29878397</id>
	<title>Oh thank God...</title>
	<author>hallux.sinister</author>
	<datestamp>1256556000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And here I thought we would have to come up with a completely new, and totally different way to insist the world would end after it completely fails to do so by January 1st, 2013.  I guess this means we will be able to keep right on pretending the Mayans knew something about the future, despite the shear silliness of such a notion.  If they knew so much, how come they couldn't manage to prevent their own destruction?  More importantly, even if this is true, has it occurred to anyone that the reason their calendar only runs until... whenever... is that they never thought the code would still be around so far on down the line?  (Like our Y2K thing)  Just some food for thought.  ~Hal</htmltext>
<tokenext>And here I thought we would have to come up with a completely new , and totally different way to insist the world would end after it completely fails to do so by January 1st , 2013 .
I guess this means we will be able to keep right on pretending the Mayans knew something about the future , despite the shear silliness of such a notion .
If they knew so much , how come they could n't manage to prevent their own destruction ?
More importantly , even if this is true , has it occurred to anyone that the reason their calendar only runs until... whenever... is that they never thought the code would still be around so far on down the line ?
( Like our Y2K thing ) Just some food for thought .
~ Hal</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And here I thought we would have to come up with a completely new, and totally different way to insist the world would end after it completely fails to do so by January 1st, 2013.
I guess this means we will be able to keep right on pretending the Mayans knew something about the future, despite the shear silliness of such a notion.
If they knew so much, how come they couldn't manage to prevent their own destruction?
More importantly, even if this is true, has it occurred to anyone that the reason their calendar only runs until... whenever... is that they never thought the code would still be around so far on down the line?
(Like our Y2K thing)  Just some food for thought.
~Hal</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29883655</id>
	<title>Anyone who sells anything</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1256657580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>regarding 2012 ending the world doesn't really believe the world is going to end.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>regarding 2012 ending the world does n't really believe the world is going to end .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>regarding 2012 ending the world doesn't really believe the world is going to end.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29877015</id>
	<title>Mayan engineers</title>
	<author>justleavealonemmmkay</author>
	<datestamp>1256550000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess the gov't and banks from Mexico will have to pay retired mayan sunstone engineers trillions of cocoa seeds to fix the B13 bug.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess the gov't and banks from Mexico will have to pay retired mayan sunstone engineers trillions of cocoa seeds to fix the B13 bug .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess the gov't and banks from Mexico will have to pay retired mayan sunstone engineers trillions of cocoa seeds to fix the B13 bug.</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875755</id>
	<title>Re:2220?</title>
	<author>mooingyak</author>
	<datestamp>1256587740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, but not because of this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , but not because of this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, but not because of this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29879941</id>
	<title>Late to the party</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256567760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"...ignore the fact that there is no actual galactic equator"</p><p>I thought it was the the ecliptic plane</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" ...ignore the fact that there is no actual galactic equator " I thought it was the the ecliptic plane</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"...ignore the fact that there is no actual galactic equator"I thought it was the the ecliptic plane</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876023</id>
	<title>Nothing is simple anymore</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1256589060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not only you have to "predict" the end on the world (based on trusty facts like ancient calendars, weird math tricks, how mush grows, holy books, tea leaves and hand lines), but have to pick something flexible enough to show after the predicted time how you made a small mistake and will happen somewhat shortly after anyway (so, i.e. you dont have to return what has been "donated" to your church or something similar because all was ending). Is not the 1st time that the end of the world has been delayed. In Y2K some tough that was after Dec 31/99, but some of the scare survived till Dec 31/00. Jehovah&rsquo;s Witnesses predicted that all will end in 1874, then 1878, 1881, 1910, 1914, 1918, 1925, 1975, and 1984.

<p>There are several lists of those Doomsday predictions, i.e. <a href="http://breakthroughtogod.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/prediction-addiction-versus-prophecy-false-apocalyptic-dates/" title="wordpress.com">here</a> [wordpress.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only you have to " predict " the end on the world ( based on trusty facts like ancient calendars , weird math tricks , how mush grows , holy books , tea leaves and hand lines ) , but have to pick something flexible enough to show after the predicted time how you made a small mistake and will happen somewhat shortly after anyway ( so , i.e .
you dont have to return what has been " donated " to your church or something similar because all was ending ) .
Is not the 1st time that the end of the world has been delayed .
In Y2K some tough that was after Dec 31/99 , but some of the scare survived till Dec 31/00 .
Jehovah    s Witnesses predicted that all will end in 1874 , then 1878 , 1881 , 1910 , 1914 , 1918 , 1925 , 1975 , and 1984 .
There are several lists of those Doomsday predictions , i.e .
here [ wordpress.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only you have to "predict" the end on the world (based on trusty facts like ancient calendars, weird math tricks, how mush grows, holy books, tea leaves and hand lines), but have to pick something flexible enough to show after the predicted time how you made a small mistake and will happen somewhat shortly after anyway (so, i.e.
you dont have to return what has been "donated" to your church or something similar because all was ending).
Is not the 1st time that the end of the world has been delayed.
In Y2K some tough that was after Dec 31/99, but some of the scare survived till Dec 31/00.
Jehovah’s Witnesses predicted that all will end in 1874, then 1878, 1881, 1910, 1914, 1918, 1925, 1975, and 1984.
There are several lists of those Doomsday predictions, i.e.
here [wordpress.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876791</id>
	<title>Re:Amateurs</title>
	<author>carp3\_noct3m</author>
	<datestamp>1256549220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I, being the information junkie I am, have read fairly extensively into this whole thing and have found some interesting information. The key thing is that all the really crazies seem to latch on to things like this and give it a bad name. The Mayans did not predict the end of the world, only the end of an age. In their thinking, there are basically cosmic seasons in the form of every 25k years. Also in their viewpoint, all previous transitions of ages were relatively catastrophic, but by no means end of the world. On top of all this, there happen to be a lot of coincidences scientifically with the date. The primary ones I have seen are the alignment of the planets on the galactic plane, and the best theory I read was that the potential for magnetic changes on the sun could make it a flurry of activity or the opposite. Im no scientist, but I gleaned past the hype and saw some good facts that at the least are interesting. Regardless, its not the end of the world, but it is also not the completely ridiculous y2k idea either (y2k = no scientific basis).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I , being the information junkie I am , have read fairly extensively into this whole thing and have found some interesting information .
The key thing is that all the really crazies seem to latch on to things like this and give it a bad name .
The Mayans did not predict the end of the world , only the end of an age .
In their thinking , there are basically cosmic seasons in the form of every 25k years .
Also in their viewpoint , all previous transitions of ages were relatively catastrophic , but by no means end of the world .
On top of all this , there happen to be a lot of coincidences scientifically with the date .
The primary ones I have seen are the alignment of the planets on the galactic plane , and the best theory I read was that the potential for magnetic changes on the sun could make it a flurry of activity or the opposite .
Im no scientist , but I gleaned past the hype and saw some good facts that at the least are interesting .
Regardless , its not the end of the world , but it is also not the completely ridiculous y2k idea either ( y2k = no scientific basis ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I, being the information junkie I am, have read fairly extensively into this whole thing and have found some interesting information.
The key thing is that all the really crazies seem to latch on to things like this and give it a bad name.
The Mayans did not predict the end of the world, only the end of an age.
In their thinking, there are basically cosmic seasons in the form of every 25k years.
Also in their viewpoint, all previous transitions of ages were relatively catastrophic, but by no means end of the world.
On top of all this, there happen to be a lot of coincidences scientifically with the date.
The primary ones I have seen are the alignment of the planets on the galactic plane, and the best theory I read was that the potential for magnetic changes on the sun could make it a flurry of activity or the opposite.
Im no scientist, but I gleaned past the hype and saw some good facts that at the least are interesting.
Regardless, its not the end of the world, but it is also not the completely ridiculous y2k idea either (y2k = no scientific basis).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875743</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29876659</id>
	<title>Re:2220?</title>
	<author>radtea</author>
	<datestamp>1256548800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>"There are no facts, only interpretations." --Friedrich Nietzsche.</i></p><p>What Nietzsche actually said was, "There are no interpretations, only facts."  That's my interpretation, anyway.</p><p>[Self consistency!  Not just for scientists any more!]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" There are no facts , only interpretations .
" --Friedrich Nietzsche.What Nietzsche actually said was , " There are no interpretations , only facts .
" That 's my interpretation , anyway .
[ Self consistency !
Not just for scientists any more !
]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"There are no facts, only interpretations.
" --Friedrich Nietzsche.What Nietzsche actually said was, "There are no interpretations, only facts.
"  That's my interpretation, anyway.
[Self consistency!
Not just for scientists any more!
]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875703</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29878905</id>
	<title>Just so that no one will be disappointed</title>
	<author>sixtuslab</author>
	<datestamp>1256559540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>when the universe ends, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega\_point\_(Tipler)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Tipler's Omega Point</a> [wikipedia.org] proves that we will feel just like nothing happened =)</htmltext>
<tokenext>when the universe ends , Tipler 's Omega Point [ wikipedia.org ] proves that we will feel just like nothing happened = )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>when the universe ends, Tipler's Omega Point [wikipedia.org] proves that we will feel just like nothing happened =)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_26_1517242.29875789</id>
	<title>Re:great</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256587920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it going to be anything like the TV series?</p><p>http://abcnews.go.com/2020/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it going to be anything like the TV series ? http : //abcnews.go.com/2020/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it going to be anything like the TV series?http://abcnews.go.com/2020/</sentencetext>
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