<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_24_166241</id>
	<title>A Tale of Two Windows 7s</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1256405160000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>theodp writes <i>"It was the best of operating systems, it was the worst of operating systems. When it comes to the merits of Windows 7, it looks like Slate's Farhad Manjoo and PC Magazine's John Dvorak are going to have to agree to disagree. <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2233294/pagenum/all/">Manjoo gives Windows 7 a big thumbs-up</a> (a sincere one, <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/cschlaeger/JapanLinuxSymposium#5395358413061926434">unlike Linus</a>!), calling it a 'crowning achievement,' while <a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2354446,00.asp">Dvorak is less than impressed</a>, saying, 'Win 7 is really just a Vista martini. The operating system may have two olives instead of one this time out, but it's still made with the same cheap Microsoft vodka.' So, for those of you who've had a chance to check things out, <a href="http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2009/10/apples\_first\_windows\_7\_ad.html">are things really different</a> this time?"</i>
Multiple readers have also pointed out that <a href="http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itproinstall/thread/62675a69-2a19-4695-8c8d-8a83be589708">there have been problems</a> with the download and installation of Windows 7 upgrades obtained through the student discount offer, which <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9139832/Microsoft\_confirms\_Windows\_7\_upgrade\_install\_snafu">Microsoft has confirmed</a>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>theodp writes " It was the best of operating systems , it was the worst of operating systems .
When it comes to the merits of Windows 7 , it looks like Slate 's Farhad Manjoo and PC Magazine 's John Dvorak are going to have to agree to disagree .
Manjoo gives Windows 7 a big thumbs-up ( a sincere one , unlike Linus !
) , calling it a 'crowning achievement, ' while Dvorak is less than impressed , saying , 'Win 7 is really just a Vista martini .
The operating system may have two olives instead of one this time out , but it 's still made with the same cheap Microsoft vodka .
' So , for those of you who 've had a chance to check things out , are things really different this time ?
" Multiple readers have also pointed out that there have been problems with the download and installation of Windows 7 upgrades obtained through the student discount offer , which Microsoft has confirmed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>theodp writes "It was the best of operating systems, it was the worst of operating systems.
When it comes to the merits of Windows 7, it looks like Slate's Farhad Manjoo and PC Magazine's John Dvorak are going to have to agree to disagree.
Manjoo gives Windows 7 a big thumbs-up (a sincere one, unlike Linus!
), calling it a 'crowning achievement,' while Dvorak is less than impressed, saying, 'Win 7 is really just a Vista martini.
The operating system may have two olives instead of one this time out, but it's still made with the same cheap Microsoft vodka.
' So, for those of you who've had a chance to check things out, are things really different this time?
"
Multiple readers have also pointed out that there have been problems with the download and installation of Windows 7 upgrades obtained through the student discount offer, which Microsoft has confirmed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858345</id>
	<title>Still hamstringing users after all these years</title>
	<author>That's Unpossible!</author>
	<datestamp>1256412240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a copy of Windows Vista running in a VM in Parallels. I bought the Windows 7 Ultimate upgrade, but decided I want to do a clean install.</p><p>To do a clean install from a clean VM (or hard drive), you have to perform a hack. You can't just install 7 and show it your Vista CD to prove you are eligible. Unbelievable!</p><p>Contrast this with my recent Mac upgrade experience. I bought Snow Leopard ($29, 1/10th the price of W7), and was able to perform a clean install, without even having to enter a fucking key.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a copy of Windows Vista running in a VM in Parallels .
I bought the Windows 7 Ultimate upgrade , but decided I want to do a clean install.To do a clean install from a clean VM ( or hard drive ) , you have to perform a hack .
You ca n't just install 7 and show it your Vista CD to prove you are eligible .
Unbelievable ! Contrast this with my recent Mac upgrade experience .
I bought Snow Leopard ( $ 29 , 1/10th the price of W7 ) , and was able to perform a clean install , without even having to enter a fucking key .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a copy of Windows Vista running in a VM in Parallels.
I bought the Windows 7 Ultimate upgrade, but decided I want to do a clean install.To do a clean install from a clean VM (or hard drive), you have to perform a hack.
You can't just install 7 and show it your Vista CD to prove you are eligible.
Unbelievable!Contrast this with my recent Mac upgrade experience.
I bought Snow Leopard ($29, 1/10th the price of W7), and was able to perform a clean install, without even having to enter a fucking key.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29862769</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 faster than what?</title>
	<author>m0i</author>
	<datestamp>1256501280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Can anyone tell me why a computer that is 10 times faster with 4 times the memory is so much slower at responding to simple inputs?  There's a perceptible lag when just single clicking a desktop icon to highlight it.</p></div><p>What antivirus do you run on each machine? Every file in a folder is scanned before it is displayed, that may explain a thing or two.. By the way in this regard Avira is decent at not slowing down too much things.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can anyone tell me why a computer that is 10 times faster with 4 times the memory is so much slower at responding to simple inputs ?
There 's a perceptible lag when just single clicking a desktop icon to highlight it.What antivirus do you run on each machine ?
Every file in a folder is scanned before it is displayed , that may explain a thing or two.. By the way in this regard Avira is decent at not slowing down too much things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can anyone tell me why a computer that is 10 times faster with 4 times the memory is so much slower at responding to simple inputs?
There's a perceptible lag when just single clicking a desktop icon to highlight it.What antivirus do you run on each machine?
Every file in a folder is scanned before it is displayed, that may explain a thing or two.. By the way in this regard Avira is decent at not slowing down too much things.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857995</id>
	<title>MS snatched victory from the jaws of failure...</title>
	<author>cyclocommuter</author>
	<datestamp>1256410200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well it looks like Microsoft has turned the Vista blunder into a Windows 7 success, money making opportunity... great move on their part. They did this by basically just waiting for drivers to mature, waiting for the hardware to catch up, and focusing on creating some fancy ads like these: <a href="http://www.osnews.com/story/22384/Windows\_7\_Ad\_Campaign\_Kicks\_Off\_Focuses\_on\_Features" title="osnews.com">Windows 7 Ad Campaign Kicks Off, Focuses on Features</a> [osnews.com] </p><p>
I tend to agree with Dvorak... Windows 7 is more like Vista SP3...plus some fancy interface updates but basically the same deep down.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well it looks like Microsoft has turned the Vista blunder into a Windows 7 success , money making opportunity... great move on their part .
They did this by basically just waiting for drivers to mature , waiting for the hardware to catch up , and focusing on creating some fancy ads like these : Windows 7 Ad Campaign Kicks Off , Focuses on Features [ osnews.com ] I tend to agree with Dvorak... Windows 7 is more like Vista SP3...plus some fancy interface updates but basically the same deep down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well it looks like Microsoft has turned the Vista blunder into a Windows 7 success, money making opportunity... great move on their part.
They did this by basically just waiting for drivers to mature, waiting for the hardware to catch up, and focusing on creating some fancy ads like these: Windows 7 Ad Campaign Kicks Off, Focuses on Features [osnews.com] 
I tend to agree with Dvorak... Windows 7 is more like Vista SP3...plus some fancy interface updates but basically the same deep down.
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858161</id>
	<title>Not too bad...</title>
	<author>ducomputergeek</author>
	<datestamp>1256411160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I installed Windows 7 RC whatever a while ago on my Bootcamp partition.  As a lark, I pulled out some older applications and programs that gave Vista fits when it first came out a couple years ago.  Installed on Windows 7 without many hiccups, had to set the emulation and run in administrator mode on a couple, but at least they installed and ran without any problems after that.</p><p>Now I need to upgrade to Parallels 4 so I can run it in a VM like I did XP.  It's not replaced OSX as my everyday OS, but we still have to test our web apps in IE and desktop apps in Windows  and Windows 7 runs happily on my older MacBook with 2GB of Ram.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I installed Windows 7 RC whatever a while ago on my Bootcamp partition .
As a lark , I pulled out some older applications and programs that gave Vista fits when it first came out a couple years ago .
Installed on Windows 7 without many hiccups , had to set the emulation and run in administrator mode on a couple , but at least they installed and ran without any problems after that.Now I need to upgrade to Parallels 4 so I can run it in a VM like I did XP .
It 's not replaced OSX as my everyday OS , but we still have to test our web apps in IE and desktop apps in Windows and Windows 7 runs happily on my older MacBook with 2GB of Ram .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I installed Windows 7 RC whatever a while ago on my Bootcamp partition.
As a lark, I pulled out some older applications and programs that gave Vista fits when it first came out a couple years ago.
Installed on Windows 7 without many hiccups, had to set the emulation and run in administrator mode on a couple, but at least they installed and ran without any problems after that.Now I need to upgrade to Parallels 4 so I can run it in a VM like I did XP.
It's not replaced OSX as my everyday OS, but we still have to test our web apps in IE and desktop apps in Windows  and Windows 7 runs happily on my older MacBook with 2GB of Ram.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859957</id>
	<title>Re:A martini...</title>
	<author>centuren</author>
	<datestamp>1256380620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Dear John Dvorak,</p><p>A <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini\_(cocktail)" title="wikipedia.org">martini</a> [wikipedia.org] is made with <b>gin</b> and vermouth.</p><p>A <i>vodka martini</i> is made with vodka.</p></div><p>Finally, someone who knows how to make a proper vodka martini! Dry like a desert.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear John Dvorak,A martini [ wikipedia.org ] is made with gin and vermouth.A vodka martini is made with vodka.Finally , someone who knows how to make a proper vodka martini !
Dry like a desert .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear John Dvorak,A martini [wikipedia.org] is made with gin and vermouth.A vodka martini is made with vodka.Finally, someone who knows how to make a proper vodka martini!
Dry like a desert.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857977</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29861353</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone REALLY take Dvorak seriously?</title>
	<author>ishobo</author>
	<datestamp>1256395020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I still have not gotten over Dvorak, in 1990, calling the Disney Sound Source better than the AdLib, SoundBlaster, and GUS. He said it would revolutionize sound on the PC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I still have not gotten over Dvorak , in 1990 , calling the Disney Sound Source better than the AdLib , SoundBlaster , and GUS .
He said it would revolutionize sound on the PC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still have not gotten over Dvorak, in 1990, calling the Disney Sound Source better than the AdLib, SoundBlaster, and GUS.
He said it would revolutionize sound on the PC.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858033</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29860825</id>
	<title>Re:Good and bad...</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1256388660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The bad is that notebooks are rather problematic. I have an HP tablet that when the screen is flipped causes the machine to stop dead in its tracks.</i></p><p>My HP tablet works fine with Windows 7 on it. Of course, I'm smart enough to not install HP's shitty-ass drivers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The bad is that notebooks are rather problematic .
I have an HP tablet that when the screen is flipped causes the machine to stop dead in its tracks.My HP tablet works fine with Windows 7 on it .
Of course , I 'm smart enough to not install HP 's shitty-ass drivers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The bad is that notebooks are rather problematic.
I have an HP tablet that when the screen is flipped causes the machine to stop dead in its tracks.My HP tablet works fine with Windows 7 on it.
Of course, I'm smart enough to not install HP's shitty-ass drivers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857905</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858091</id>
	<title>haven't tried it yet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256410680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>but windows 7 is at least twice as good as windows 3.1</htmltext>
<tokenext>but windows 7 is at least twice as good as windows 3.1</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but windows 7 is at least twice as good as windows 3.1</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858129</id>
	<title>Re:Good and bad...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256410980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>upgrading an XP to Windows 7 machine</p> </div><p>I though that it has always been common knowledge among geeks to never upgrade to a new version of Windows. Always install a fulll version of the new OS from scratch. Upgrading to a new OS from an old OS version has always been the cause of problems and even when it goes right the resulting system tends to have all kinds of leftover bloat and bugginess.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>upgrading an XP to Windows 7 machine I though that it has always been common knowledge among geeks to never upgrade to a new version of Windows .
Always install a fulll version of the new OS from scratch .
Upgrading to a new OS from an old OS version has always been the cause of problems and even when it goes right the resulting system tends to have all kinds of leftover bloat and bugginess .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>upgrading an XP to Windows 7 machine I though that it has always been common knowledge among geeks to never upgrade to a new version of Windows.
Always install a fulll version of the new OS from scratch.
Upgrading to a new OS from an old OS version has always been the cause of problems and even when it goes right the resulting system tends to have all kinds of leftover bloat and bugginess.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857905</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29861525</id>
	<title>Re:Dvorak is the enemy of slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256397000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The name's Bond, James Bond.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The name 's Bond , James Bond .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The name's Bond, James Bond.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858157</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859093</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone REALLY take Dvorak seriously?</title>
	<author>FrankDrebin</author>
	<datestamp>1256417940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like Dvorak.  He's an outlier and a contrarian.  A thousand guys can write essentially the same article, but Dvorak is different.  And we only get new and interesting things in this world with people who think differently than the crowd.  Sure the contrarian view will often be wrong and therefore unremarkable.  But when a contrarian is right, it's a brilliant leap.  And Dvorak isn't just a contrarian for its own sake, he presents a logical argument *why* he takes a contrarian position.  Yes, I like Dvorak.  </p><p>
Calicanis on the other hand is an arrogant douche and I don't even download TWIT when he's on anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like Dvorak .
He 's an outlier and a contrarian .
A thousand guys can write essentially the same article , but Dvorak is different .
And we only get new and interesting things in this world with people who think differently than the crowd .
Sure the contrarian view will often be wrong and therefore unremarkable .
But when a contrarian is right , it 's a brilliant leap .
And Dvorak is n't just a contrarian for its own sake , he presents a logical argument * why * he takes a contrarian position .
Yes , I like Dvorak .
Calicanis on the other hand is an arrogant douche and I do n't even download TWIT when he 's on anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like Dvorak.
He's an outlier and a contrarian.
A thousand guys can write essentially the same article, but Dvorak is different.
And we only get new and interesting things in this world with people who think differently than the crowd.
Sure the contrarian view will often be wrong and therefore unremarkable.
But when a contrarian is right, it's a brilliant leap.
And Dvorak isn't just a contrarian for its own sake, he presents a logical argument *why* he takes a contrarian position.
Yes, I like Dvorak.
Calicanis on the other hand is an arrogant douche and I don't even download TWIT when he's on anymore.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29864593</id>
	<title>Did they fix sleep yet?</title>
	<author>crossmr</author>
	<datestamp>1256486100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can remember going to a Vista beta launch and MS carrying on about how sleep was fixed. No more trouble waking up. Yeah. Still blows. my friend's HP laptop absolutely cannot function after waking up from sleep. The only USB thing that will work is the mouse. Nothing else works. Wireless internet also won't wake up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can remember going to a Vista beta launch and MS carrying on about how sleep was fixed .
No more trouble waking up .
Yeah. Still blows .
my friend 's HP laptop absolutely can not function after waking up from sleep .
The only USB thing that will work is the mouse .
Nothing else works .
Wireless internet also wo n't wake up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can remember going to a Vista beta launch and MS carrying on about how sleep was fixed.
No more trouble waking up.
Yeah. Still blows.
my friend's HP laptop absolutely cannot function after waking up from sleep.
The only USB thing that will work is the mouse.
Nothing else works.
Wireless internet also won't wake up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858309</id>
	<title>Vista working fine here, no reason to upgrade</title>
	<author>highvista63</author>
	<datestamp>1256412000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been running Vista on a Thinkpad T61p for about a year and a half with no significant problems, crashes, or performance problems.  Upgrading to Windows 7 seems like it would be a waste of time and money for me or anyone else with a stable and well-performing Vista installation.  The improvements in Windows 7 aren't significant or compelling enough to justify the change.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been running Vista on a Thinkpad T61p for about a year and a half with no significant problems , crashes , or performance problems .
Upgrading to Windows 7 seems like it would be a waste of time and money for me or anyone else with a stable and well-performing Vista installation .
The improvements in Windows 7 are n't significant or compelling enough to justify the change .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been running Vista on a Thinkpad T61p for about a year and a half with no significant problems, crashes, or performance problems.
Upgrading to Windows 7 seems like it would be a waste of time and money for me or anyone else with a stable and well-performing Vista installation.
The improvements in Windows 7 aren't significant or compelling enough to justify the change.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29871223</id>
	<title>Re:Show me a bullet list</title>
	<author>ildon</author>
	<datestamp>1256565120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The only reason I upgraded from Win2K to XP was for remote desktop functionality that I needed for work.</p></div></blockquote><p>Then you'll probably be forced to upgrade to 7 for the always-on VPN feature.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only reason I upgraded from Win2K to XP was for remote desktop functionality that I needed for work.Then you 'll probably be forced to upgrade to 7 for the always-on VPN feature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only reason I upgraded from Win2K to XP was for remote desktop functionality that I needed for work.Then you'll probably be forced to upgrade to 7 for the always-on VPN feature.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858231</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858587</id>
	<title>Re:MS snatched victory from the jaws of failure...</title>
	<author>bwcbwc</author>
	<datestamp>1256413920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agree what with Dvorak? Apart from the one-liner about cheap vodka, Dvorak doesn't discuss the operating systems at all. On the other hand, you're spot-on about Win 7 being a success because the rest of the market finally caught up with Vista. Reminds me of Windows NT, which never really succeeded until NT4 when the hardware finally caught up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agree what with Dvorak ?
Apart from the one-liner about cheap vodka , Dvorak does n't discuss the operating systems at all .
On the other hand , you 're spot-on about Win 7 being a success because the rest of the market finally caught up with Vista .
Reminds me of Windows NT , which never really succeeded until NT4 when the hardware finally caught up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agree what with Dvorak?
Apart from the one-liner about cheap vodka, Dvorak doesn't discuss the operating systems at all.
On the other hand, you're spot-on about Win 7 being a success because the rest of the market finally caught up with Vista.
Reminds me of Windows NT, which never really succeeded until NT4 when the hardware finally caught up.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857995</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858363</id>
	<title>Windows 7 is a lovely gift to the Web (for all!)</title>
	<author>Tumbleweed</author>
	<datestamp>1256412360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why? Simple - it gets everyone, even the people who don't know any better, OFF of IE 6 and 7. IE 8 is no great technical achievement, but it sure makes my life easier as a web developer. When the hype is whipped up like it is for Win 7, then people are spurred to upgrade hardware, etc. It's a good deal.</p><p>If you have people in your life who won't change to a Mac or Ubuntu, try getting them to upgrade to Windows 7, PLEASE. Legally or illegally. All of us on Slashdot should know how to get a cracked/activated copy of Win 7 that doesn't call the mothership by now. If that's what it takes to get people off of IE 6, DO IT. The lesser of two evils here is moving people to Win 7/IE 8 rather than letting them stagnate the Web by continuing to use IE 6.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ?
Simple - it gets everyone , even the people who do n't know any better , OFF of IE 6 and 7 .
IE 8 is no great technical achievement , but it sure makes my life easier as a web developer .
When the hype is whipped up like it is for Win 7 , then people are spurred to upgrade hardware , etc .
It 's a good deal.If you have people in your life who wo n't change to a Mac or Ubuntu , try getting them to upgrade to Windows 7 , PLEASE .
Legally or illegally .
All of us on Slashdot should know how to get a cracked/activated copy of Win 7 that does n't call the mothership by now .
If that 's what it takes to get people off of IE 6 , DO IT .
The lesser of two evils here is moving people to Win 7/IE 8 rather than letting them stagnate the Web by continuing to use IE 6 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why?
Simple - it gets everyone, even the people who don't know any better, OFF of IE 6 and 7.
IE 8 is no great technical achievement, but it sure makes my life easier as a web developer.
When the hype is whipped up like it is for Win 7, then people are spurred to upgrade hardware, etc.
It's a good deal.If you have people in your life who won't change to a Mac or Ubuntu, try getting them to upgrade to Windows 7, PLEASE.
Legally or illegally.
All of us on Slashdot should know how to get a cracked/activated copy of Win 7 that doesn't call the mothership by now.
If that's what it takes to get people off of IE 6, DO IT.
The lesser of two evils here is moving people to Win 7/IE 8 rather than letting them stagnate the Web by continuing to use IE 6.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857955</id>
	<title>Are desktop OS's really dying ?</title>
	<author>Kylock</author>
	<datestamp>1256409900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From the article:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The desktop OS is besieged from all sides: More and more of our applications now run on the Web, and the idea of running huge, complex, and expensive personal systems will, in time, seem strange.</p></div><p>Does this remark seem strange to anyone else ?  I, honestly, am not seeing this trend at all, but I've seen it talked about.  What's the reality here ?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From the article : The desktop OS is besieged from all sides : More and more of our applications now run on the Web , and the idea of running huge , complex , and expensive personal systems will , in time , seem strange.Does this remark seem strange to anyone else ?
I , honestly , am not seeing this trend at all , but I 've seen it talked about .
What 's the reality here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the article:The desktop OS is besieged from all sides: More and more of our applications now run on the Web, and the idea of running huge, complex, and expensive personal systems will, in time, seem strange.Does this remark seem strange to anyone else ?
I, honestly, am not seeing this trend at all, but I've seen it talked about.
What's the reality here ?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29870953</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 faster than what?</title>
	<author>VShael</author>
	<datestamp>1256562360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wasn't that the supposed function of the Esc key?</p><p>They won't implement a STOP button for the OS, because they can't even implement the stop button ("X") for a frakkin web browser.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Was n't that the supposed function of the Esc key ? They wo n't implement a STOP button for the OS , because they ca n't even implement the stop button ( " X " ) for a frakkin web browser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wasn't that the supposed function of the Esc key?They won't implement a STOP button for the OS, because they can't even implement the stop button ("X") for a frakkin web browser.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29877999</id>
	<title>Re:Vastly superior</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256553960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This reminds me of the thrill seeker seen from "Kentucky Fried Movie."
<br> <br>
Absolutely.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This reminds me of the thrill seeker seen from " Kentucky Fried Movie .
" Absolutely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This reminds me of the thrill seeker seen from "Kentucky Fried Movie.
"
 
Absolutely.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857965</id>
	<title>Dvorak is the enemy of slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256409960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dvorak is an idiot, trying to get publicity for his stupid views. Windows 7 is good.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dvorak is an idiot , trying to get publicity for his stupid views .
Windows 7 is good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dvorak is an idiot, trying to get publicity for his stupid views.
Windows 7 is good.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859295</id>
	<title>Farhad is a waste of space</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256376120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Farhad sold his soul for money after joining Slate.  Not worth reading his maximum page view, advertiser oriented, bullshit anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Farhad sold his soul for money after joining Slate .
Not worth reading his maximum page view , advertiser oriented , bullshit anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Farhad sold his soul for money after joining Slate.
Not worth reading his maximum page view, advertiser oriented, bullshit anymore.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857953</id>
	<title>Windows 7 is clearly better than Vista</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256409900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>(not to mention being WAY better than XP)</p><p>As someone who ran Vista from the get-go (well, almost, since it was RTM) - on numerous systems, I can say that Windows 7 is a huge upgrade from Vista.  Yes, it's not a whole new operating system (although it's pitched that way by MS) - it is in fact Vista the way it should have been in the first place, but that doesn't change the fact that it's way better.</p><p>The two key improvements are:</p><p>1.  Performance - and I'm not talking about benchmarking DVD-burning or file copying being one second faster than Vista or two seconds faster than XP - but about overall, sustained system responsiveness.  Windows 7 easily beats Vista here without a doubt.  I'm actually running 7 on an eee 900 - and it's as fast as XP was, and I'd have to say it's probably actually slightly faster than XP was.  Vista, of course, never cut it for that particular box.  On 2 other machines (a desktop and a laptop) - both of which used Vista beforehand - 7 shows tremendous improvement.</p><p>2.  Usability.  This is actually not such a big deal, but honestly, the only cool thing Vista had to show for itself was the all-but-useless Flip 3D.  In almost four years of using Vista, I've never once used it for actually switching apps - only to show people what it looks like.  7, on the other hand, comes with a variety of useful UI improvements that I'm already hooked on, e.g. aligning windows to the left and right for easy comparison between windows, taskbar previous improvements (can't wait for Firefox to support those, aero peek and a couple of others.</p><p>I'd say that Dvorak is simply feeling sour about not being treated like a celebrity like he was used to at the past.  That has nothing to do with 7.</p><p>The key place where Microsoft made negative progress is on the taskbar.  Everyone's saying how Microsoft's version of the dock is better than the original - I say both suck.  Why on earth one would want to mix between running applications and switching to running applications is beyond me.  Thankfully, the new 7 taskbar can be tweaked to behave like the XP/Vista taskbar (quicklaunch for launching apps, the rest of the taskbar for showing running apps) in under 3 minutes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>( not to mention being WAY better than XP ) As someone who ran Vista from the get-go ( well , almost , since it was RTM ) - on numerous systems , I can say that Windows 7 is a huge upgrade from Vista .
Yes , it 's not a whole new operating system ( although it 's pitched that way by MS ) - it is in fact Vista the way it should have been in the first place , but that does n't change the fact that it 's way better.The two key improvements are : 1 .
Performance - and I 'm not talking about benchmarking DVD-burning or file copying being one second faster than Vista or two seconds faster than XP - but about overall , sustained system responsiveness .
Windows 7 easily beats Vista here without a doubt .
I 'm actually running 7 on an eee 900 - and it 's as fast as XP was , and I 'd have to say it 's probably actually slightly faster than XP was .
Vista , of course , never cut it for that particular box .
On 2 other machines ( a desktop and a laptop ) - both of which used Vista beforehand - 7 shows tremendous improvement.2 .
Usability. This is actually not such a big deal , but honestly , the only cool thing Vista had to show for itself was the all-but-useless Flip 3D .
In almost four years of using Vista , I 've never once used it for actually switching apps - only to show people what it looks like .
7 , on the other hand , comes with a variety of useful UI improvements that I 'm already hooked on , e.g .
aligning windows to the left and right for easy comparison between windows , taskbar previous improvements ( ca n't wait for Firefox to support those , aero peek and a couple of others.I 'd say that Dvorak is simply feeling sour about not being treated like a celebrity like he was used to at the past .
That has nothing to do with 7.The key place where Microsoft made negative progress is on the taskbar .
Everyone 's saying how Microsoft 's version of the dock is better than the original - I say both suck .
Why on earth one would want to mix between running applications and switching to running applications is beyond me .
Thankfully , the new 7 taskbar can be tweaked to behave like the XP/Vista taskbar ( quicklaunch for launching apps , the rest of the taskbar for showing running apps ) in under 3 minutes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(not to mention being WAY better than XP)As someone who ran Vista from the get-go (well, almost, since it was RTM) - on numerous systems, I can say that Windows 7 is a huge upgrade from Vista.
Yes, it's not a whole new operating system (although it's pitched that way by MS) - it is in fact Vista the way it should have been in the first place, but that doesn't change the fact that it's way better.The two key improvements are:1.
Performance - and I'm not talking about benchmarking DVD-burning or file copying being one second faster than Vista or two seconds faster than XP - but about overall, sustained system responsiveness.
Windows 7 easily beats Vista here without a doubt.
I'm actually running 7 on an eee 900 - and it's as fast as XP was, and I'd have to say it's probably actually slightly faster than XP was.
Vista, of course, never cut it for that particular box.
On 2 other machines (a desktop and a laptop) - both of which used Vista beforehand - 7 shows tremendous improvement.2.
Usability.  This is actually not such a big deal, but honestly, the only cool thing Vista had to show for itself was the all-but-useless Flip 3D.
In almost four years of using Vista, I've never once used it for actually switching apps - only to show people what it looks like.
7, on the other hand, comes with a variety of useful UI improvements that I'm already hooked on, e.g.
aligning windows to the left and right for easy comparison between windows, taskbar previous improvements (can't wait for Firefox to support those, aero peek and a couple of others.I'd say that Dvorak is simply feeling sour about not being treated like a celebrity like he was used to at the past.
That has nothing to do with 7.The key place where Microsoft made negative progress is on the taskbar.
Everyone's saying how Microsoft's version of the dock is better than the original - I say both suck.
Why on earth one would want to mix between running applications and switching to running applications is beyond me.
Thankfully, the new 7 taskbar can be tweaked to behave like the XP/Vista taskbar (quicklaunch for launching apps, the rest of the taskbar for showing running apps) in under 3 minutes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29880545</id>
	<title>Re:Are desktop OS's really dying ?</title>
	<author>A\_Non\_Moose</author>
	<datestamp>1256574900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>What's the reality here ?</p></div></blockquote><p>Scott McNealy's Revenge after almost 20 some-odd years: "the network is the computer."</p><p>'scuse me, cloud/web/network/whatever.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's the reality here ? Scott McNealy 's Revenge after almost 20 some-odd years : " the network is the computer .
" 'scuse me , cloud/web/network/whatever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the reality here ?Scott McNealy's Revenge after almost 20 some-odd years: "the network is the computer.
"'scuse me, cloud/web/network/whatever.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29873263</id>
	<title>7 vs Vista</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256575980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought Vista when it came out and installed it on a newly built machine. Anything I would play in HD would skip and pixilate in Media Center or VLC. I tried different codecs and drivers to no avail. The system performance was much slower than XP. I ended up switching back to XP.</p><p>I installed 7 on that same computer on Friday. Everything works just as it did in XP. I found a hack to allow remote desktop usage (and concurrent users) in Home Premium and so far I am pretty happy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought Vista when it came out and installed it on a newly built machine .
Anything I would play in HD would skip and pixilate in Media Center or VLC .
I tried different codecs and drivers to no avail .
The system performance was much slower than XP .
I ended up switching back to XP.I installed 7 on that same computer on Friday .
Everything works just as it did in XP .
I found a hack to allow remote desktop usage ( and concurrent users ) in Home Premium and so far I am pretty happy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought Vista when it came out and installed it on a newly built machine.
Anything I would play in HD would skip and pixilate in Media Center or VLC.
I tried different codecs and drivers to no avail.
The system performance was much slower than XP.
I ended up switching back to XP.I installed 7 on that same computer on Friday.
Everything works just as it did in XP.
I found a hack to allow remote desktop usage (and concurrent users) in Home Premium and so far I am pretty happy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29927971</id>
	<title>Re:New OS yuck</title>
	<author>VinylPusher</author>
	<datestamp>1256935740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft wouldn't have much of a business model if everyone just wanted "XP, but better".</p><p>Backwards compatability is really there to ease a transition. DOS compatability ceased to be an issue ever since DOSBox became stable. You can even launch Win 3.11 using it, if you were so inclined/masochistic!</p><p>If you switch to Apple or Linux, I think you'll be happier. If I understand your point correctly, being able to do an in-place upgrade from one OS version to the next without reinstalling everything will suit you perfectly.</p><p>You can do this with Windows, of course. XP upgrades to Vista upgrades to 7. Costs a bit more than the Linux option though<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft would n't have much of a business model if everyone just wanted " XP , but better " .Backwards compatability is really there to ease a transition .
DOS compatability ceased to be an issue ever since DOSBox became stable .
You can even launch Win 3.11 using it , if you were so inclined/masochistic ! If you switch to Apple or Linux , I think you 'll be happier .
If I understand your point correctly , being able to do an in-place upgrade from one OS version to the next without reinstalling everything will suit you perfectly.You can do this with Windows , of course .
XP upgrades to Vista upgrades to 7 .
Costs a bit more than the Linux option though ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft wouldn't have much of a business model if everyone just wanted "XP, but better".Backwards compatability is really there to ease a transition.
DOS compatability ceased to be an issue ever since DOSBox became stable.
You can even launch Win 3.11 using it, if you were so inclined/masochistic!If you switch to Apple or Linux, I think you'll be happier.
If I understand your point correctly, being able to do an in-place upgrade from one OS version to the next without reinstalling everything will suit you perfectly.You can do this with Windows, of course.
XP upgrades to Vista upgrades to 7.
Costs a bit more than the Linux option though ;-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29881835</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 faster than what?</title>
	<author>cheekyboy</author>
	<datestamp>1256640600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>run filemon and regmon from sysinternals and do the operations.<br>whats what windows does.</p><p>theres a 1000 things windows does in the background, checking external resources/links, devices...</p><p>win95 supported less things, so its 'copy process' was simple.</p><p>the biggest hog/devil is the windows desktop explorer.exe , the shell is the hideaous monster in xp.</p><p>it should have been lots of small daemons/ sub procs instead of the fat pig it is.</p><p>then again, for MS to release stuff quickly they do enough to get things working bug free, but not fast, then release it.<br>the next version of OS in 5 years is the optimized version.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>run filemon and regmon from sysinternals and do the operations.whats what windows does.theres a 1000 things windows does in the background , checking external resources/links , devices...win95 supported less things , so its 'copy process ' was simple.the biggest hog/devil is the windows desktop explorer.exe , the shell is the hideaous monster in xp.it should have been lots of small daemons/ sub procs instead of the fat pig it is.then again , for MS to release stuff quickly they do enough to get things working bug free , but not fast , then release it.the next version of OS in 5 years is the optimized version .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>run filemon and regmon from sysinternals and do the operations.whats what windows does.theres a 1000 things windows does in the background, checking external resources/links, devices...win95 supported less things, so its 'copy process' was simple.the biggest hog/devil is the windows desktop explorer.exe , the shell is the hideaous monster in xp.it should have been lots of small daemons/ sub procs instead of the fat pig it is.then again, for MS to release stuff quickly they do enough to get things working bug free, but not fast, then release it.the next version of OS in 5 years is the optimized version.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29862341</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 Will beThe Death Knell For Microsoft</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256407140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> You haven't liven until you've seen a file path like "User Data/User/Data/User/ Data/ User data....  ad infinitum .  Frack that.  Oh<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and it's still slow.  And it crashed on mee 5 times the first week.</p></div><p>You've never seen a linux file system have you, if something like C:\Users\\%USER\%\My Documents or C:\Users\\%USER\%\AppData\Local\\%APPLICATION is confusing than I pity you ever trying to learn your way around a system depending on relatively cryptic names. At least the windows file system has folder names in english and symbolic or jargon laden gibberish. Yes, Control Panel can be confusing and that is why you must try to learn it, I really dont get how you were ever smart enough to become a programmer if you cant even learn simple system menus.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You have n't liven until you 've seen a file path like " User Data/User/Data/User/ Data/ User data.... ad infinitum .
Frack that .
Oh ... and it 's still slow .
And it crashed on mee 5 times the first week.You 've never seen a linux file system have you , if something like C : \ Users \ \ % USER \ % \ My Documents or C : \ Users \ \ % USER \ % \ AppData \ Local \ \ % APPLICATION is confusing than I pity you ever trying to learn your way around a system depending on relatively cryptic names .
At least the windows file system has folder names in english and symbolic or jargon laden gibberish .
Yes , Control Panel can be confusing and that is why you must try to learn it , I really dont get how you were ever smart enough to become a programmer if you cant even learn simple system menus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> You haven't liven until you've seen a file path like "User Data/User/Data/User/ Data/ User data....  ad infinitum .
Frack that.
Oh ... and it's still slow.
And it crashed on mee 5 times the first week.You've never seen a linux file system have you, if something like C:\Users\\%USER\%\My Documents or C:\Users\\%USER\%\AppData\Local\\%APPLICATION is confusing than I pity you ever trying to learn your way around a system depending on relatively cryptic names.
At least the windows file system has folder names in english and symbolic or jargon laden gibberish.
Yes, Control Panel can be confusing and that is why you must try to learn it, I really dont get how you were ever smart enough to become a programmer if you cant even learn simple system menus.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29861497</id>
	<title>Re:Show me a bullet list</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1256396700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'd like to see a bullet list of the features in Win7 versus Vista and XP.</p></div><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features\_new\_to\_Windows\_7" title="wikipedia.org">"Features new to Windows 7"</a> [wikipedia.org].</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The only reason I upgraded from Win2K to XP was for remote desktop functionality that I needed for work</p></div><p>One nice thing about 7 is that if you RD from 7 to 7/2008R2, you can have full accelerated Aero Glass experience (unlike Vista, which forced you into Basic), limited only by the capabilities of the client machine.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to see a bullet list of the features in Win7 versus Vista and XP .
" Features new to Windows 7 " [ wikipedia.org ] .The only reason I upgraded from Win2K to XP was for remote desktop functionality that I needed for workOne nice thing about 7 is that if you RD from 7 to 7/2008R2 , you can have full accelerated Aero Glass experience ( unlike Vista , which forced you into Basic ) , limited only by the capabilities of the client machine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to see a bullet list of the features in Win7 versus Vista and XP.
"Features new to Windows 7" [wikipedia.org].The only reason I upgraded from Win2K to XP was for remote desktop functionality that I needed for workOne nice thing about 7 is that if you RD from 7 to 7/2008R2, you can have full accelerated Aero Glass experience (unlike Vista, which forced you into Basic), limited only by the capabilities of the client machine.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29874445</id>
	<title>Dvorak smited</title>
	<author>Bobfrankly1</author>
	<datestamp>1256581620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Read Dvorak's article, he looks more peeved about not getting a personalized card or letter from Microsoft then anything else. It's like someone missed his birthday or something. Maybe he's still sore about not getting into the windows 7 beta?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Read Dvorak 's article , he looks more peeved about not getting a personalized card or letter from Microsoft then anything else .
It 's like someone missed his birthday or something .
Maybe he 's still sore about not getting into the windows 7 beta ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Read Dvorak's article, he looks more peeved about not getting a personalized card or letter from Microsoft then anything else.
It's like someone missed his birthday or something.
Maybe he's still sore about not getting into the windows 7 beta?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858087</id>
	<title>Re:Are desktop OS's really dying ?</title>
	<author>Torodung</author>
	<datestamp>1256410620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>From the article:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The desktop OS is besieged from all sides: More and more of our applications now run on the Web, and the idea of running huge, complex, and expensive personal systems will, in time, seem strange.</p></div><p>Does this remark seem strange to anyone else ?  I, honestly, am not seeing this trend at all, but I've seen it talked about.  What's the reality here ?</p></div><p>The reality here is various business interests with a large stake in server farms and service based software fee structures are pushing cloud computing. Hard.</p><p>You will see it talked about as if it is reality a lot, but it really hasn't fully materialized yet.</p><p>This is like someone in the 50's talking about things in "The Jetsons" as the way the future will be, for the time being. A "personal robot" will not seem strange in the future, and so on.</p><p>--<br>Toro</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From the article : The desktop OS is besieged from all sides : More and more of our applications now run on the Web , and the idea of running huge , complex , and expensive personal systems will , in time , seem strange.Does this remark seem strange to anyone else ?
I , honestly , am not seeing this trend at all , but I 've seen it talked about .
What 's the reality here ? The reality here is various business interests with a large stake in server farms and service based software fee structures are pushing cloud computing .
Hard.You will see it talked about as if it is reality a lot , but it really has n't fully materialized yet.This is like someone in the 50 's talking about things in " The Jetsons " as the way the future will be , for the time being .
A " personal robot " will not seem strange in the future , and so on.--Toro</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the article:The desktop OS is besieged from all sides: More and more of our applications now run on the Web, and the idea of running huge, complex, and expensive personal systems will, in time, seem strange.Does this remark seem strange to anyone else ?
I, honestly, am not seeing this trend at all, but I've seen it talked about.
What's the reality here ?The reality here is various business interests with a large stake in server farms and service based software fee structures are pushing cloud computing.
Hard.You will see it talked about as if it is reality a lot, but it really hasn't fully materialized yet.This is like someone in the 50's talking about things in "The Jetsons" as the way the future will be, for the time being.
A "personal robot" will not seem strange in the future, and so on.--Toro
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29862129</id>
	<title>Re:So what?</title>
	<author>GeckoAddict</author>
	<datestamp>1256403480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Totally agree with you.  I'm running on a 5 year old laptop (1.7GHZ Pentium M, 1.5GB ram, 1920x1200),  and I think it's actually faster than XP.  Much faster booting for sure, and install was easy.  Just had to plug into the network long enough to run windows update once so it got the right graphics and wireless driver, and I was golden.<br> <br>And you're right about the UI interactions and everything looking/working pretty.  I just found windows-tab and went... hey, that's pretty slick.  UAC has only bothered me when installing programs (like I'd expect).  Overall, I've been impressed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Totally agree with you .
I 'm running on a 5 year old laptop ( 1.7GHZ Pentium M , 1.5GB ram , 1920x1200 ) , and I think it 's actually faster than XP .
Much faster booting for sure , and install was easy .
Just had to plug into the network long enough to run windows update once so it got the right graphics and wireless driver , and I was golden .
And you 're right about the UI interactions and everything looking/working pretty .
I just found windows-tab and went... hey , that 's pretty slick .
UAC has only bothered me when installing programs ( like I 'd expect ) .
Overall , I 've been impressed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Totally agree with you.
I'm running on a 5 year old laptop (1.7GHZ Pentium M, 1.5GB ram, 1920x1200),  and I think it's actually faster than XP.
Much faster booting for sure, and install was easy.
Just had to plug into the network long enough to run windows update once so it got the right graphics and wireless driver, and I was golden.
And you're right about the UI interactions and everything looking/working pretty.
I just found windows-tab and went... hey, that's pretty slick.
UAC has only bothered me when installing programs (like I'd expect).
Overall, I've been impressed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858545</id>
	<title>Re:So what?</title>
	<author>jcarkeys</author>
	<datestamp>1256413680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>For the first time ever in a new Windows installation I didn't feel compelled to immediately set up my video drivers.  Everything worked smoothly enough.  Of course, I did eventually load them up, but it didn't even require a reboot.  Needless to say, I'm very pleased with Windows 7 so far.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For the first time ever in a new Windows installation I did n't feel compelled to immediately set up my video drivers .
Everything worked smoothly enough .
Of course , I did eventually load them up , but it did n't even require a reboot .
Needless to say , I 'm very pleased with Windows 7 so far .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the first time ever in a new Windows installation I didn't feel compelled to immediately set up my video drivers.
Everything worked smoothly enough.
Of course, I did eventually load them up, but it didn't even require a reboot.
Needless to say, I'm very pleased with Windows 7 so far.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29863357</id>
	<title>But it's the hardware stupid!</title>
	<author>cruachan</author>
	<datestamp>1256470560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really like macs, even though most of my client development work is for PCs.  I've been running a MacBook with Parallels and a couple of virtual PC installs for a while, and over the last couple of months I've been looking at replacing my desktop machine and going down the serious virtualization route (and I wanted a three screen setup too)</p><p>My choice - A Mac Pro, a PC with Windows 7 or a PC with Ubuntu.  I've a couple of retiring desktops one running Vista SP2 and one Unbuntu 9.04</p><p>I really wanted to go with the Mac, I really did.  But I priced the hardware up.  My spec - a 2.6 Ghz I7, 6Gb Ram, 2 x 1Tb HD, two graphics cards and cables came to &pound;2,527.  I built the same spec (actually slightly better, and more esily upgradable) with PC hardware for &pound;950 and then paid an extra &pound;200 to renew my Microsoft MAPS license which gives me 1 copy of Win7 Ultimate and 10 of Win7 Professional (of which I'll use three, and I'm deploying the 64 bit version) so the total cost for the Windows machine is around &pound;1,100.</p><p>Having been using Win7 for a couple of days now my opinion is that it's not as good as Snow Leopard, but it feels pretty snappy and is more than usable.  Certainly it's a lot less intrusive than Vista.  I would have paid the premium for Apple, but when that premium was a whole &pound;1,400 - i.e. a whopping 127\% - then it's just not feasible.</p><p>And why not Ubuntu instead of Windows?  Well that's shear practicality - I've been running one of my main development machines under Ubuntu for over a year now, it's great when working on linux web servers as terminal mode just fits better and it's great to have around so it's not being retired (just moved to the end of the desk and dropped from two screen to one) but the lack of Cloudmark spam filter running on Thunderbird, reliable Dreamweaver under wine or anything else, and ditto Photoshop means it wasn't quite in the running.</p><p>So my opnion - Mac is still the best OS when you look at just the OS, but factor in the hardware and unless money is really no object then Win7 wins - unfortunatly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really like macs , even though most of my client development work is for PCs .
I 've been running a MacBook with Parallels and a couple of virtual PC installs for a while , and over the last couple of months I 've been looking at replacing my desktop machine and going down the serious virtualization route ( and I wanted a three screen setup too ) My choice - A Mac Pro , a PC with Windows 7 or a PC with Ubuntu .
I 've a couple of retiring desktops one running Vista SP2 and one Unbuntu 9.04I really wanted to go with the Mac , I really did .
But I priced the hardware up .
My spec - a 2.6 Ghz I7 , 6Gb Ram , 2 x 1Tb HD , two graphics cards and cables came to   2,527 .
I built the same spec ( actually slightly better , and more esily upgradable ) with PC hardware for   950 and then paid an extra   200 to renew my Microsoft MAPS license which gives me 1 copy of Win7 Ultimate and 10 of Win7 Professional ( of which I 'll use three , and I 'm deploying the 64 bit version ) so the total cost for the Windows machine is around   1,100.Having been using Win7 for a couple of days now my opinion is that it 's not as good as Snow Leopard , but it feels pretty snappy and is more than usable .
Certainly it 's a lot less intrusive than Vista .
I would have paid the premium for Apple , but when that premium was a whole   1,400 - i.e .
a whopping 127 \ % - then it 's just not feasible.And why not Ubuntu instead of Windows ?
Well that 's shear practicality - I 've been running one of my main development machines under Ubuntu for over a year now , it 's great when working on linux web servers as terminal mode just fits better and it 's great to have around so it 's not being retired ( just moved to the end of the desk and dropped from two screen to one ) but the lack of Cloudmark spam filter running on Thunderbird , reliable Dreamweaver under wine or anything else , and ditto Photoshop means it was n't quite in the running.So my opnion - Mac is still the best OS when you look at just the OS , but factor in the hardware and unless money is really no object then Win7 wins - unfortunatly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really like macs, even though most of my client development work is for PCs.
I've been running a MacBook with Parallels and a couple of virtual PC installs for a while, and over the last couple of months I've been looking at replacing my desktop machine and going down the serious virtualization route (and I wanted a three screen setup too)My choice - A Mac Pro, a PC with Windows 7 or a PC with Ubuntu.
I've a couple of retiring desktops one running Vista SP2 and one Unbuntu 9.04I really wanted to go with the Mac, I really did.
But I priced the hardware up.
My spec - a 2.6 Ghz I7, 6Gb Ram, 2 x 1Tb HD, two graphics cards and cables came to £2,527.
I built the same spec (actually slightly better, and more esily upgradable) with PC hardware for £950 and then paid an extra £200 to renew my Microsoft MAPS license which gives me 1 copy of Win7 Ultimate and 10 of Win7 Professional (of which I'll use three, and I'm deploying the 64 bit version) so the total cost for the Windows machine is around £1,100.Having been using Win7 for a couple of days now my opinion is that it's not as good as Snow Leopard, but it feels pretty snappy and is more than usable.
Certainly it's a lot less intrusive than Vista.
I would have paid the premium for Apple, but when that premium was a whole £1,400 - i.e.
a whopping 127\% - then it's just not feasible.And why not Ubuntu instead of Windows?
Well that's shear practicality - I've been running one of my main development machines under Ubuntu for over a year now, it's great when working on linux web servers as terminal mode just fits better and it's great to have around so it's not being retired (just moved to the end of the desk and dropped from two screen to one) but the lack of Cloudmark spam filter running on Thunderbird, reliable Dreamweaver under wine or anything else, and ditto Photoshop means it wasn't quite in the running.So my opnion - Mac is still the best OS when you look at just the OS, but factor in the hardware and unless money is really no object then Win7 wins - unfortunatly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29881911</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 Will beThe Death Knell For Microsoft</title>
	<author>cheekyboy</author>
	<datestamp>1256642160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>two things.<br>Transfering gigs of files, ie movies and isos, my wife does it trivially easily from the laptop to the linux server (samba config is the other bitch with users/perms but thats the insane<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.conf file and no gui)   Its fast enough, and its over wifi<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.g too.   Transfering a desktop to USB HD, fast as a linux vm with cp commands.</p><p>Sharing folders, ah man its trivial in 7 too, feels same as XP, just have more options, so I just share a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/things as perms rw everyone, how hard can it be, are you that 'unlearnable' , maybe your brain has HD full, cannot learn new things.</p><p>Macs are ok, but Obj C sucks, wasted skill set unless you can make mac stuff. There are equally as many crap things in finder (parts are still in 68k btw dude). Go to macintouch.com , not all are happy.</p><p>Maybe<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.Net is too easy, and too many newbie school leavers can do it , that it drives down the contracting wages to very low levels, is that the main reason?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>two things.Transfering gigs of files , ie movies and isos , my wife does it trivially easily from the laptop to the linux server ( samba config is the other bitch with users/perms but thats the insane .conf file and no gui ) Its fast enough , and its over wifi .g too .
Transfering a desktop to USB HD , fast as a linux vm with cp commands.Sharing folders , ah man its trivial in 7 too , feels same as XP , just have more options , so I just share a /things as perms rw everyone , how hard can it be , are you that 'unlearnable ' , maybe your brain has HD full , can not learn new things.Macs are ok , but Obj C sucks , wasted skill set unless you can make mac stuff .
There are equally as many crap things in finder ( parts are still in 68k btw dude ) .
Go to macintouch.com , not all are happy.Maybe .Net is too easy , and too many newbie school leavers can do it , that it drives down the contracting wages to very low levels , is that the main reason ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>two things.Transfering gigs of files, ie movies and isos, my wife does it trivially easily from the laptop to the linux server (samba config is the other bitch with users/perms but thats the insane .conf file and no gui)   Its fast enough, and its over wifi .g too.
Transfering a desktop to USB HD, fast as a linux vm with cp commands.Sharing folders, ah man its trivial in 7 too, feels same as XP, just have more options, so I just share a /things as perms rw everyone, how hard can it be, are you that 'unlearnable' , maybe your brain has HD full, cannot learn new things.Macs are ok, but Obj C sucks, wasted skill set unless you can make mac stuff.
There are equally as many crap things in finder (parts are still in 68k btw dude).
Go to macintouch.com , not all are happy.Maybe .Net is too easy, and too many newbie school leavers can do it , that it drives down the contracting wages to very low levels, is that the main reason?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858637</id>
	<title>Re:It's the best version of Windows I've used so f</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256414340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And I've used Windows from 3.0 to current, every version and every service pack level.</p><p>It's replaced the linux partition on my gaming desktop even.</p></div><p>Um.  I think this was meant to be a joke.  But who cares?  Mod me down if you want.</p></div>
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<tokenext>And I 've used Windows from 3.0 to current , every version and every service pack level.It 's replaced the linux partition on my gaming desktop even.Um .
I think this was meant to be a joke .
But who cares ?
Mod me down if you want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I've used Windows from 3.0 to current, every version and every service pack level.It's replaced the linux partition on my gaming desktop even.Um.
I think this was meant to be a joke.
But who cares?
Mod me down if you want.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29863617</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 faster than what?</title>
	<author>ignavus</author>
	<datestamp>1256476200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Windows 95 had a great version of Windows Explorer: it was a plain, native file manager. It ran fast, worked great.</p><p>Then Microsoft got this notion that the file manager had to be a web browser. It had to have all sorts of extra graphics and features that made it less efficient at managing files. This was the same time that they also decided that the desktop should be "web enabled" too - thereby slowing it down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows 95 had a great version of Windows Explorer : it was a plain , native file manager .
It ran fast , worked great.Then Microsoft got this notion that the file manager had to be a web browser .
It had to have all sorts of extra graphics and features that made it less efficient at managing files .
This was the same time that they also decided that the desktop should be " web enabled " too - thereby slowing it down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows 95 had a great version of Windows Explorer: it was a plain, native file manager.
It ran fast, worked great.Then Microsoft got this notion that the file manager had to be a web browser.
It had to have all sorts of extra graphics and features that made it less efficient at managing files.
This was the same time that they also decided that the desktop should be "web enabled" too - thereby slowing it down.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858277</id>
	<title>Re:Good and bad...</title>
	<author>Taur0</author>
	<datestamp>1256411820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been running the windows 7 RC for about 4 months on my HP tablet tx2500z. All the drivers installer automatically, except for one of the HP ones to deal with the extra buttons like the sound and rotate buttons (never experienced a crash due to rotation even before I installed the driver). The only other problem was a minor issue in getting the adobe flash debugger to work, took like 2 seconds to fix though. Never had a blue screen. It runs just fine for me and I'm still using the RC.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been running the windows 7 RC for about 4 months on my HP tablet tx2500z .
All the drivers installer automatically , except for one of the HP ones to deal with the extra buttons like the sound and rotate buttons ( never experienced a crash due to rotation even before I installed the driver ) .
The only other problem was a minor issue in getting the adobe flash debugger to work , took like 2 seconds to fix though .
Never had a blue screen .
It runs just fine for me and I 'm still using the RC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been running the windows 7 RC for about 4 months on my HP tablet tx2500z.
All the drivers installer automatically, except for one of the HP ones to deal with the extra buttons like the sound and rotate buttons (never experienced a crash due to rotation even before I installed the driver).
The only other problem was a minor issue in getting the adobe flash debugger to work, took like 2 seconds to fix though.
Never had a blue screen.
It runs just fine for me and I'm still using the RC.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858263</id>
	<title>Re:Are desktop OS's really dying ?</title>
	<author>Kryptonian Jor-El</author>
	<datestamp>1256411700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah its 100\% bullshit. The cloud is a horrible idea. Whats the point of storing all of my information and applications on someone else's computer, only to use the internet to access them. The only "web" applications I use are flash games and stuff for school.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah its 100 \ % bullshit .
The cloud is a horrible idea .
Whats the point of storing all of my information and applications on someone else 's computer , only to use the internet to access them .
The only " web " applications I use are flash games and stuff for school .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah its 100\% bullshit.
The cloud is a horrible idea.
Whats the point of storing all of my information and applications on someone else's computer, only to use the internet to access them.
The only "web" applications I use are flash games and stuff for school.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29864709</id>
	<title>Re:A martini...</title>
	<author>Cl1mh4224rd</author>
	<datestamp>1256487480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is the guy who complained about that "idle process stealing 97\% of his cpu power".<br>Do you expect he knows what he is talking about?</p></div><p>He was actually complaining about how, sometimes, Windows goes unresponsive while the Task Manager shows the system is almost completely idle, and then, all of a sudden, every frustrated click goes into action in one flood.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the guy who complained about that " idle process stealing 97 \ % of his cpu power " .Do you expect he knows what he is talking about ? He was actually complaining about how , sometimes , Windows goes unresponsive while the Task Manager shows the system is almost completely idle , and then , all of a sudden , every frustrated click goes into action in one flood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the guy who complained about that "idle process stealing 97\% of his cpu power".Do you expect he knows what he is talking about?He was actually complaining about how, sometimes, Windows goes unresponsive while the Task Manager shows the system is almost completely idle, and then, all of a sudden, every frustrated click goes into action in one flood.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858893</id>
	<title>Re:A martini...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256416500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dear other Anonymous Coward. A vodka martini is actually properly referred to as a kangaroo cocktail. General ignorance has slowly removed the traditional name from the lexicon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear other Anonymous Coward .
A vodka martini is actually properly referred to as a kangaroo cocktail .
General ignorance has slowly removed the traditional name from the lexicon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear other Anonymous Coward.
A vodka martini is actually properly referred to as a kangaroo cocktail.
General ignorance has slowly removed the traditional name from the lexicon.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29871285</id>
	<title>Re:Run the GUI - not the Computer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256565600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Almost anything you could have typed into the Run dialog can be typed into the search box at the bottom of the start menu and will execute immediately (you don't have to wait for it to actually be found by the search thing at the top of the start menu).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Almost anything you could have typed into the Run dialog can be typed into the search box at the bottom of the start menu and will execute immediately ( you do n't have to wait for it to actually be found by the search thing at the top of the start menu ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Almost anything you could have typed into the Run dialog can be typed into the search box at the bottom of the start menu and will execute immediately (you don't have to wait for it to actually be found by the search thing at the top of the start menu).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29868427</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 faster than what?</title>
	<author>deek</author>
	<datestamp>1256482500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Win95 explorer window was its own application.  From Win98 and onwards, they integrated IE into explorer.  File displays are then rendered as a html page.  Html rendering is much more complex than having a dedicated application, and therefore takes more time.  With every increased version of Internet Explorer, there are more html features supported, and hence rendering will take longer, even if it's a simple outlay.  Then let's not forget browser helper objects, most of which will be consulted on every html redraw.  I'm not sure what performance hit IE security plays, but it does add an extra layer to the whole system, and hence would add its part to the issue.</p><p>Life was much simpler in Win95 days, when the explorer application just had to draw a standard icon for every file in a folder.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Win95 explorer window was its own application .
From Win98 and onwards , they integrated IE into explorer .
File displays are then rendered as a html page .
Html rendering is much more complex than having a dedicated application , and therefore takes more time .
With every increased version of Internet Explorer , there are more html features supported , and hence rendering will take longer , even if it 's a simple outlay .
Then let 's not forget browser helper objects , most of which will be consulted on every html redraw .
I 'm not sure what performance hit IE security plays , but it does add an extra layer to the whole system , and hence would add its part to the issue.Life was much simpler in Win95 days , when the explorer application just had to draw a standard icon for every file in a folder .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Win95 explorer window was its own application.
From Win98 and onwards, they integrated IE into explorer.
File displays are then rendered as a html page.
Html rendering is much more complex than having a dedicated application, and therefore takes more time.
With every increased version of Internet Explorer, there are more html features supported, and hence rendering will take longer, even if it's a simple outlay.
Then let's not forget browser helper objects, most of which will be consulted on every html redraw.
I'm not sure what performance hit IE security plays, but it does add an extra layer to the whole system, and hence would add its part to the issue.Life was much simpler in Win95 days, when the explorer application just had to draw a standard icon for every file in a folder.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858125</id>
	<title>Re:Good and bad...</title>
	<author>lukas84</author>
	<datestamp>1256410980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We've been using the RC on about 20 ThinkPads. Not a single one of them had issues or functionality that didn't work. One of them was an X200 tablet.</p><p>None of them had issues with installing (we upgraded from Vista). By now, we've upgraded all of these to the RTM version. No issues either.</p><p>Maybe you shouldn't buy HP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've been using the RC on about 20 ThinkPads .
Not a single one of them had issues or functionality that did n't work .
One of them was an X200 tablet.None of them had issues with installing ( we upgraded from Vista ) .
By now , we 've upgraded all of these to the RTM version .
No issues either.Maybe you should n't buy HP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've been using the RC on about 20 ThinkPads.
Not a single one of them had issues or functionality that didn't work.
One of them was an X200 tablet.None of them had issues with installing (we upgraded from Vista).
By now, we've upgraded all of these to the RTM version.
No issues either.Maybe you shouldn't buy HP.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Dvorak's complaints have nothing to do with the OS</title>
	<author>GT\_Alias</author>
	<datestamp>1256410440000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Dvorak's article is completely useless.  He's concerned with the fact that MS doesn't coddle the media like they once did and that their marketing material is overly pro-corporate (imagine that!) and lacking in punctuation--there was nothing in the article about the OS.  I'm not sure how this guy manages to stay employed other than the fact that he's entertaining in his complete lack of relevance.

Also, the cheap vodka/martini/two-olives analogy made no sense...it did make me want a martini though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dvorak 's article is completely useless .
He 's concerned with the fact that MS does n't coddle the media like they once did and that their marketing material is overly pro-corporate ( imagine that !
) and lacking in punctuation--there was nothing in the article about the OS .
I 'm not sure how this guy manages to stay employed other than the fact that he 's entertaining in his complete lack of relevance .
Also , the cheap vodka/martini/two-olives analogy made no sense...it did make me want a martini though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dvorak's article is completely useless.
He's concerned with the fact that MS doesn't coddle the media like they once did and that their marketing material is overly pro-corporate (imagine that!
) and lacking in punctuation--there was nothing in the article about the OS.
I'm not sure how this guy manages to stay employed other than the fact that he's entertaining in his complete lack of relevance.
Also, the cheap vodka/martini/two-olives analogy made no sense...it did make me want a martini though.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858745</id>
	<title>Re:Are desktop OS's really dying ?</title>
	<author>prometx42</author>
	<datestamp>1256415300000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I see why a look at a lot of popular indicators would bring him to that conclusion, but really, I think that the personal "workstation" will always have a place in the hearts of the independent computing crowd.</p><p>"this is my (somewhat) custom software, running on my custom rack".</p><p>Not that ubiquitous and convenient interfaces and solutions won't continue to crop up and, indeed, become very useful, but I like my box...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I see why a look at a lot of popular indicators would bring him to that conclusion , but really , I think that the personal " workstation " will always have a place in the hearts of the independent computing crowd .
" this is my ( somewhat ) custom software , running on my custom rack " .Not that ubiquitous and convenient interfaces and solutions wo n't continue to crop up and , indeed , become very useful , but I like my box.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see why a look at a lot of popular indicators would bring him to that conclusion, but really, I think that the personal "workstation" will always have a place in the hearts of the independent computing crowd.
"this is my (somewhat) custom software, running on my custom rack".Not that ubiquitous and convenient interfaces and solutions won't continue to crop up and, indeed, become very useful, but I like my box...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859513</id>
	<title>Are there any 'Vista or Win7-only' apps?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256377800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will users of, say, AutoCAD or Photoshop be forced to upgrade their OS in order to run later versions of those applications? How about new games: will Vista and/or Windows 7 be obligatory just to play them?</p><p>If not, why bother spending money on a new OS, and new hardware just to run the new OS, if your current WinXP setup works fine?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will users of , say , AutoCAD or Photoshop be forced to upgrade their OS in order to run later versions of those applications ?
How about new games : will Vista and/or Windows 7 be obligatory just to play them ? If not , why bother spending money on a new OS , and new hardware just to run the new OS , if your current WinXP setup works fine ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will users of, say, AutoCAD or Photoshop be forced to upgrade their OS in order to run later versions of those applications?
How about new games: will Vista and/or Windows 7 be obligatory just to play them?If not, why bother spending money on a new OS, and new hardware just to run the new OS, if your current WinXP setup works fine?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29862155</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone REALLY take Dvorak seriously?</title>
	<author>scire9</author>
	<datestamp>1256403960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I've been listening to Dvorak on Twit for a few years now. Why does <i>anyone</i> listen to this guy?</p></div><p>You tell us.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been listening to Dvorak on Twit for a few years now .
Why does anyone listen to this guy ? You tell us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been listening to Dvorak on Twit for a few years now.
Why does anyone listen to this guy?You tell us.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857787</id>
	<title>Vodka</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256408820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft Vodka? When do they learn to use <a href="http://www.russianstandardvodka.com/#/en/" title="russianstandardvodka.com">Russian Standard Vodka</a> [russianstandardvodka.com] (worth checking out btw, some style for the Saturday night).</p><p>But for that matter, haven't it been established for long already that Win7 is basically Vista with the quirks removed and improved features. Vista was more like a transition, while actually still being a good OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft Vodka ?
When do they learn to use Russian Standard Vodka [ russianstandardvodka.com ] ( worth checking out btw , some style for the Saturday night ) .But for that matter , have n't it been established for long already that Win7 is basically Vista with the quirks removed and improved features .
Vista was more like a transition , while actually still being a good OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft Vodka?
When do they learn to use Russian Standard Vodka [russianstandardvodka.com] (worth checking out btw, some style for the Saturday night).But for that matter, haven't it been established for long already that Win7 is basically Vista with the quirks removed and improved features.
Vista was more like a transition, while actually still being a good OS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858461</id>
	<title>Re:Good and bad...</title>
	<author>daern</author>
	<datestamp>1256413140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The bad is that notebooks are rather problematic.</p></div><p>No. The bad is that *your* notebook is problematic. Mine (Dell D630) works just fine, thanks very much. I'm sure other people's do too.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Want work of wonder... Ubuntu Netbook Remix. Now that has me impressed. I run Windows machines, but on my netbook Ubuntu Netbook Remix runs perfectly and the UI is brilliant. Much better than the Windows 7 stuff.</p></div><p>Hmmm, this is heard quite often. I'll set up an opposing point of view here:</p><p>I found Ubuntu (admittedly it was Intrepid Ibix) to be substantially inferior for day-to-day usage on the afore mentioned Dell hardware. It was slower, with poorer battery life and much, much less stable - graphics problems mostly. And, unfortunately, Gnome + X11 when dealing with external docks with multiple monitors connected was almost laughable in the poorness of its support. Windows 7 (and, indeed, XP) handled all of this without any difficulty at all.</p><p>Don't get me wrong here; I like Linux. I use it at work and am glad to do so. But for a large slice of the regular computing world, it's still got a long way to go. That said, perhaps I should try the latest Ubuntu distro and see if things have improved...</p></div>
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<tokenext>The bad is that notebooks are rather problematic.No .
The bad is that * your * notebook is problematic .
Mine ( Dell D630 ) works just fine , thanks very much .
I 'm sure other people 's do too.Want work of wonder... Ubuntu Netbook Remix .
Now that has me impressed .
I run Windows machines , but on my netbook Ubuntu Netbook Remix runs perfectly and the UI is brilliant .
Much better than the Windows 7 stuff.Hmmm , this is heard quite often .
I 'll set up an opposing point of view here : I found Ubuntu ( admittedly it was Intrepid Ibix ) to be substantially inferior for day-to-day usage on the afore mentioned Dell hardware .
It was slower , with poorer battery life and much , much less stable - graphics problems mostly .
And , unfortunately , Gnome + X11 when dealing with external docks with multiple monitors connected was almost laughable in the poorness of its support .
Windows 7 ( and , indeed , XP ) handled all of this without any difficulty at all.Do n't get me wrong here ; I like Linux .
I use it at work and am glad to do so .
But for a large slice of the regular computing world , it 's still got a long way to go .
That said , perhaps I should try the latest Ubuntu distro and see if things have improved.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The bad is that notebooks are rather problematic.No.
The bad is that *your* notebook is problematic.
Mine (Dell D630) works just fine, thanks very much.
I'm sure other people's do too.Want work of wonder... Ubuntu Netbook Remix.
Now that has me impressed.
I run Windows machines, but on my netbook Ubuntu Netbook Remix runs perfectly and the UI is brilliant.
Much better than the Windows 7 stuff.Hmmm, this is heard quite often.
I'll set up an opposing point of view here:I found Ubuntu (admittedly it was Intrepid Ibix) to be substantially inferior for day-to-day usage on the afore mentioned Dell hardware.
It was slower, with poorer battery life and much, much less stable - graphics problems mostly.
And, unfortunately, Gnome + X11 when dealing with external docks with multiple monitors connected was almost laughable in the poorness of its support.
Windows 7 (and, indeed, XP) handled all of this without any difficulty at all.Don't get me wrong here; I like Linux.
I use it at work and am glad to do so.
But for a large slice of the regular computing world, it's still got a long way to go.
That said, perhaps I should try the latest Ubuntu distro and see if things have improved...
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29865353</id>
	<title>My only problem with Windows 7...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256493840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is convincing my computer-phobe uncle to get a Broadband connection so I don't have to waste time learning how to configure a POTS modem properly.  And drop AOL.  He complains that it's slower to browse using his new PC.  Which is a cheap POS from Office Depot, but still, it's better than the Windows ME junkbox he is using.  But it's slower visiting his tractor sites.   Why?  I don't know.  Is it the modem in his new PC being junk?   Poor configuration?   Some change in AOL?  Some firewall issue that is going on?  Some antivirus thing?</p><p>I don't know.  I don't even want to take the time to know.  I just want to get him to use Broadband like any sane person.   Fortunately his electric power company is putting in fiber to the home.   So you know what?   He'll get that.  And he'll like it.</p><p>It'll just be a matter of selling it to him.  Much like selling a chainsaw to the guy used to using his axe.   Pray with me folks.  Pray with me.  We must exorcise the Windows ME demon!  We must!</p><p>Of course, here I am, sitting on a porch, trying to reach a wireless access point some 300+ feet away and hoping it works long enough for me to post.  So maybe my problem isn't with Windows 7.</p><p>Maybe I'm just jealous that Hicktown is getting fiber.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is convincing my computer-phobe uncle to get a Broadband connection so I do n't have to waste time learning how to configure a POTS modem properly .
And drop AOL .
He complains that it 's slower to browse using his new PC .
Which is a cheap POS from Office Depot , but still , it 's better than the Windows ME junkbox he is using .
But it 's slower visiting his tractor sites .
Why ? I do n't know .
Is it the modem in his new PC being junk ?
Poor configuration ?
Some change in AOL ?
Some firewall issue that is going on ?
Some antivirus thing ? I do n't know .
I do n't even want to take the time to know .
I just want to get him to use Broadband like any sane person .
Fortunately his electric power company is putting in fiber to the home .
So you know what ?
He 'll get that .
And he 'll like it.It 'll just be a matter of selling it to him .
Much like selling a chainsaw to the guy used to using his axe .
Pray with me folks .
Pray with me .
We must exorcise the Windows ME demon !
We must ! Of course , here I am , sitting on a porch , trying to reach a wireless access point some 300 + feet away and hoping it works long enough for me to post .
So maybe my problem is n't with Windows 7.Maybe I 'm just jealous that Hicktown is getting fiber .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is convincing my computer-phobe uncle to get a Broadband connection so I don't have to waste time learning how to configure a POTS modem properly.
And drop AOL.
He complains that it's slower to browse using his new PC.
Which is a cheap POS from Office Depot, but still, it's better than the Windows ME junkbox he is using.
But it's slower visiting his tractor sites.
Why?  I don't know.
Is it the modem in his new PC being junk?
Poor configuration?
Some change in AOL?
Some firewall issue that is going on?
Some antivirus thing?I don't know.
I don't even want to take the time to know.
I just want to get him to use Broadband like any sane person.
Fortunately his electric power company is putting in fiber to the home.
So you know what?
He'll get that.
And he'll like it.It'll just be a matter of selling it to him.
Much like selling a chainsaw to the guy used to using his axe.
Pray with me folks.
Pray with me.
We must exorcise the Windows ME demon!
We must!Of course, here I am, sitting on a porch, trying to reach a wireless access point some 300+ feet away and hoping it works long enough for me to post.
So maybe my problem isn't with Windows 7.Maybe I'm just jealous that Hicktown is getting fiber.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29861393</id>
	<title>Re:Good and bad...</title>
	<author>XO</author>
	<datestamp>1256395620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>unlikely, my machine is currently setup for quad boot, XP x86, Ubuntu, 7 x86, and 7 x64.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>unlikely , my machine is currently setup for quad boot , XP x86 , Ubuntu , 7 x86 , and 7 x64 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>unlikely, my machine is currently setup for quad boot, XP x86, Ubuntu, 7 x86, and 7 x64.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29863475</id>
	<title>Be patriotic: buy Windows 7</title>
	<author>ardle</author>
	<datestamp>1256473260000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>The reason why mainstream media is hyping Windows 7 so much is: imagine what would happen if it tanked?
<br>Microsoft shares would start to fall in price, then there would be lots of "knock-on" effects - and maybe even panic selling of all kinds of (possibly unrelated) stocks. Microsoft share price has been one of the most reliable things on the stock exchange.
<br>So we have to keep Microsoft share price up. Buy a new computer, if you have to.
<br>I know it might be difficult, particularly if you have lost your job - but try to look at the bigger picture.
<br>If share prices don't keep on rising, how will pension funds continue to make money?
<br>Ok, so you don't have a job, so don't have a pension - but try to look at the bigger picture.
<br>Pension Fund administrators have jobs and they could lose their pensions - or even their jobs!
<br>And then what would we do?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason why mainstream media is hyping Windows 7 so much is : imagine what would happen if it tanked ?
Microsoft shares would start to fall in price , then there would be lots of " knock-on " effects - and maybe even panic selling of all kinds of ( possibly unrelated ) stocks .
Microsoft share price has been one of the most reliable things on the stock exchange .
So we have to keep Microsoft share price up .
Buy a new computer , if you have to .
I know it might be difficult , particularly if you have lost your job - but try to look at the bigger picture .
If share prices do n't keep on rising , how will pension funds continue to make money ?
Ok , so you do n't have a job , so do n't have a pension - but try to look at the bigger picture .
Pension Fund administrators have jobs and they could lose their pensions - or even their jobs !
And then what would we do ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason why mainstream media is hyping Windows 7 so much is: imagine what would happen if it tanked?
Microsoft shares would start to fall in price, then there would be lots of "knock-on" effects - and maybe even panic selling of all kinds of (possibly unrelated) stocks.
Microsoft share price has been one of the most reliable things on the stock exchange.
So we have to keep Microsoft share price up.
Buy a new computer, if you have to.
I know it might be difficult, particularly if you have lost your job - but try to look at the bigger picture.
If share prices don't keep on rising, how will pension funds continue to make money?
Ok, so you don't have a job, so don't have a pension - but try to look at the bigger picture.
Pension Fund administrators have jobs and they could lose their pensions - or even their jobs!
And then what would we do?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29861257</id>
	<title>Re:So what?</title>
	<author>oogoliegoogolie</author>
	<datestamp>1256393820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The whole side-by-side window thing wins a bunch of gratitude from me to Microsoft.</i><br>An example of how history repeats itself.  Alot of the 'post Win3.0 noobs' don't realize that "tiling" could be easily done in windows 3.0(and earlier) in the early 90's, but for whatever reason MS removed an easy way to tile/cascade in Win95.  Windows 7 implemented this very nicely via mouse and keyboard.  Few people know this, but you can tile in XP using task manager-select two or more application, right click, and tile; a pain in the butt process, but it can be done.</p><p>I have to hand it to MS, they did a good job with Win7.  I just wish I could bring back the fly-out menu's in the start menu.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The whole side-by-side window thing wins a bunch of gratitude from me to Microsoft.An example of how history repeats itself .
Alot of the 'post Win3.0 noobs ' do n't realize that " tiling " could be easily done in windows 3.0 ( and earlier ) in the early 90 's , but for whatever reason MS removed an easy way to tile/cascade in Win95 .
Windows 7 implemented this very nicely via mouse and keyboard .
Few people know this , but you can tile in XP using task manager-select two or more application , right click , and tile ; a pain in the butt process , but it can be done.I have to hand it to MS , they did a good job with Win7 .
I just wish I could bring back the fly-out menu 's in the start menu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The whole side-by-side window thing wins a bunch of gratitude from me to Microsoft.An example of how history repeats itself.
Alot of the 'post Win3.0 noobs' don't realize that "tiling" could be easily done in windows 3.0(and earlier) in the early 90's, but for whatever reason MS removed an easy way to tile/cascade in Win95.
Windows 7 implemented this very nicely via mouse and keyboard.
Few people know this, but you can tile in XP using task manager-select two or more application, right click, and tile; a pain in the butt process, but it can be done.I have to hand it to MS, they did a good job with Win7.
I just wish I could bring back the fly-out menu's in the start menu.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29888735</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone REALLY take Dvorak seriously?</title>
	<author>stewbacca</author>
	<datestamp>1256636100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The same reason I listen to Rush Limbaugh, yet I can't stand Rush Limbaugh.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The same reason I listen to Rush Limbaugh , yet I ca n't stand Rush Limbaugh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The same reason I listen to Rush Limbaugh, yet I can't stand Rush Limbaugh.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859223</id>
	<title>Why Bother?</title>
	<author>curmudgeon99</author>
	<datestamp>1256375580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why are people still wasting their time on Microsoft? I gave up on them a long time ago and have not regretted it. The corporation I work for switched all developers to Macs. What a joy. Hearing you accept all the compromises that come with Windows, it's clear that you're not thinking. Anything is better than Microsoft.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are people still wasting their time on Microsoft ?
I gave up on them a long time ago and have not regretted it .
The corporation I work for switched all developers to Macs .
What a joy .
Hearing you accept all the compromises that come with Windows , it 's clear that you 're not thinking .
Anything is better than Microsoft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are people still wasting their time on Microsoft?
I gave up on them a long time ago and have not regretted it.
The corporation I work for switched all developers to Macs.
What a joy.
Hearing you accept all the compromises that come with Windows, it's clear that you're not thinking.
Anything is better than Microsoft.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29878135</id>
	<title>windows 7 download problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256554560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Original firehose story:<br>CWmike writes "Microsoft has blamed user confusion for the problems many have encountered trying to move from Vista to Windows 7 after buying a discounted upgrade offered to college students. "Digital River and Microsoft are aware that some customers from the Windows 7 Academic Store had difficulties completing the download or installation of the product," said a Microsoft support engineer identified as "Michael" in a message posted Sunday to the company's support forum. Several hundred users have said that they were unable to upgrade from Vista to the new OS after purchasing, then downloading, a Windows 7 upgrade, from Digital River. "We are aware that consumers are encountering difficulties installing Windows 7 where the customer is currently running a 32-bit version of Windows such as Windows Vista, but purchased the 64-bit version of Windows 7," Michael said. Students who mistakenly downloaded the 64-bit edition of Windows 7 from Digital River should request a refund, Microsoft's Michael continued, then pay for and download the 32-bit version instead. He pointed customers to a page on Digital River's site where they could request a refund. His advice runs counter to the policy listed on the Digital River support site, which says that there are no refunds for the student discount Windows 7 upgrade."<br>Link To Original Source</p><p>Comment:<br>It seems dubious to me.  I used Digital River once to download antivirus software and I will NEVER do it again.  After paying for and downloading the software, it was apparent that I needed a product key.  When I asked them for the key(a username and password) they didn't know what I was talking about.  After explaining it to them(just short of drawing a diagram), they said I would have to talk to Newegg(host of Digital River link) about it.  Newegg said, understandably, that since they were not the source of the software then, consequently, they did not have the key.  Newegg said plainly that Digital River was the provider and that they were just partnering with them.  Thus, Digital River needed to cough up the key.  To shorten an already dragging story, I got into it with these guys at Digital River who then tried to convince me I<br>did not need a product key...even after I told them I was an IT professional who had used the software before.  By the way, it was Panda Security software that I was downloading.  I ended up paying 10 bucks for demo software that I could downloaded from Panda for free anyway...Yeaa Team!  To say the least, I consider the Windows 7 situation to be suspect given that Digital River is involved.  If the students' keys do not work on BOTH 32 and 64 bit versions, then they are screwed.  Digital River will absolutely NOT give refunds.  However, i think there is a bit more going on behind the scenes than Microsoft is admitting concerning the downloads.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Original firehose story : CWmike writes " Microsoft has blamed user confusion for the problems many have encountered trying to move from Vista to Windows 7 after buying a discounted upgrade offered to college students .
" Digital River and Microsoft are aware that some customers from the Windows 7 Academic Store had difficulties completing the download or installation of the product , " said a Microsoft support engineer identified as " Michael " in a message posted Sunday to the company 's support forum .
Several hundred users have said that they were unable to upgrade from Vista to the new OS after purchasing , then downloading , a Windows 7 upgrade , from Digital River .
" We are aware that consumers are encountering difficulties installing Windows 7 where the customer is currently running a 32-bit version of Windows such as Windows Vista , but purchased the 64-bit version of Windows 7 , " Michael said .
Students who mistakenly downloaded the 64-bit edition of Windows 7 from Digital River should request a refund , Microsoft 's Michael continued , then pay for and download the 32-bit version instead .
He pointed customers to a page on Digital River 's site where they could request a refund .
His advice runs counter to the policy listed on the Digital River support site , which says that there are no refunds for the student discount Windows 7 upgrade .
" Link To Original SourceComment : It seems dubious to me .
I used Digital River once to download antivirus software and I will NEVER do it again .
After paying for and downloading the software , it was apparent that I needed a product key .
When I asked them for the key ( a username and password ) they did n't know what I was talking about .
After explaining it to them ( just short of drawing a diagram ) , they said I would have to talk to Newegg ( host of Digital River link ) about it .
Newegg said , understandably , that since they were not the source of the software then , consequently , they did not have the key .
Newegg said plainly that Digital River was the provider and that they were just partnering with them .
Thus , Digital River needed to cough up the key .
To shorten an already dragging story , I got into it with these guys at Digital River who then tried to convince me Idid not need a product key...even after I told them I was an IT professional who had used the software before .
By the way , it was Panda Security software that I was downloading .
I ended up paying 10 bucks for demo software that I could downloaded from Panda for free anyway...Yeaa Team !
To say the least , I consider the Windows 7 situation to be suspect given that Digital River is involved .
If the students ' keys do not work on BOTH 32 and 64 bit versions , then they are screwed .
Digital River will absolutely NOT give refunds .
However , i think there is a bit more going on behind the scenes than Microsoft is admitting concerning the downloads .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Original firehose story:CWmike writes "Microsoft has blamed user confusion for the problems many have encountered trying to move from Vista to Windows 7 after buying a discounted upgrade offered to college students.
"Digital River and Microsoft are aware that some customers from the Windows 7 Academic Store had difficulties completing the download or installation of the product," said a Microsoft support engineer identified as "Michael" in a message posted Sunday to the company's support forum.
Several hundred users have said that they were unable to upgrade from Vista to the new OS after purchasing, then downloading, a Windows 7 upgrade, from Digital River.
"We are aware that consumers are encountering difficulties installing Windows 7 where the customer is currently running a 32-bit version of Windows such as Windows Vista, but purchased the 64-bit version of Windows 7," Michael said.
Students who mistakenly downloaded the 64-bit edition of Windows 7 from Digital River should request a refund, Microsoft's Michael continued, then pay for and download the 32-bit version instead.
He pointed customers to a page on Digital River's site where they could request a refund.
His advice runs counter to the policy listed on the Digital River support site, which says that there are no refunds for the student discount Windows 7 upgrade.
"Link To Original SourceComment:It seems dubious to me.
I used Digital River once to download antivirus software and I will NEVER do it again.
After paying for and downloading the software, it was apparent that I needed a product key.
When I asked them for the key(a username and password) they didn't know what I was talking about.
After explaining it to them(just short of drawing a diagram), they said I would have to talk to Newegg(host of Digital River link) about it.
Newegg said, understandably, that since they were not the source of the software then, consequently, they did not have the key.
Newegg said plainly that Digital River was the provider and that they were just partnering with them.
Thus, Digital River needed to cough up the key.
To shorten an already dragging story, I got into it with these guys at Digital River who then tried to convince me Idid not need a product key...even after I told them I was an IT professional who had used the software before.
By the way, it was Panda Security software that I was downloading.
I ended up paying 10 bucks for demo software that I could downloaded from Panda for free anyway...Yeaa Team!
To say the least, I consider the Windows 7 situation to be suspect given that Digital River is involved.
If the students' keys do not work on BOTH 32 and 64 bit versions, then they are screwed.
Digital River will absolutely NOT give refunds.
However, i think there is a bit more going on behind the scenes than Microsoft is admitting concerning the downloads.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859981</id>
	<title>Don't upgrade windows, ever!</title>
	<author>SynbiosVyse</author>
	<datestamp>1256380860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>With all the build-up of useless registry files,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.DLL's and a plethora of other problems, especially with Vista, I don't know why anyone would UPGRADE to windows 7.

It has always been recommended to FORMAT and clean install! I think it's ridiculous that Microsoft even sells upgrade disks. Upgrading is not really more convenient if it causes more problems in the long run. Everyone should know that for the best stability and performance, just do a clean install. I understand that they sell upgrade disks because they believe the people who already purchased earlier versions should pay less for their license, but upgrading an OS is stupidity.

If money is the issue, there are many ways around that to get a licensed copy of 7 legally. This article mentions something about student upgrades? Students can get MSDN accounts through academic alliance. I don't see what the problem is. I have never and never will upgrade a Windows platform. Take the extra time to backup your stuff, and JUST CLEAN INSTALL IT!</htmltext>
<tokenext>With all the build-up of useless registry files , .DLL 's and a plethora of other problems , especially with Vista , I do n't know why anyone would UPGRADE to windows 7 .
It has always been recommended to FORMAT and clean install !
I think it 's ridiculous that Microsoft even sells upgrade disks .
Upgrading is not really more convenient if it causes more problems in the long run .
Everyone should know that for the best stability and performance , just do a clean install .
I understand that they sell upgrade disks because they believe the people who already purchased earlier versions should pay less for their license , but upgrading an OS is stupidity .
If money is the issue , there are many ways around that to get a licensed copy of 7 legally .
This article mentions something about student upgrades ?
Students can get MSDN accounts through academic alliance .
I do n't see what the problem is .
I have never and never will upgrade a Windows platform .
Take the extra time to backup your stuff , and JUST CLEAN INSTALL IT !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With all the build-up of useless registry files, .DLL's and a plethora of other problems, especially with Vista, I don't know why anyone would UPGRADE to windows 7.
It has always been recommended to FORMAT and clean install!
I think it's ridiculous that Microsoft even sells upgrade disks.
Upgrading is not really more convenient if it causes more problems in the long run.
Everyone should know that for the best stability and performance, just do a clean install.
I understand that they sell upgrade disks because they believe the people who already purchased earlier versions should pay less for their license, but upgrading an OS is stupidity.
If money is the issue, there are many ways around that to get a licensed copy of 7 legally.
This article mentions something about student upgrades?
Students can get MSDN accounts through academic alliance.
I don't see what the problem is.
I have never and never will upgrade a Windows platform.
Take the extra time to backup your stuff, and JUST CLEAN INSTALL IT!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29860933</id>
	<title>Re:So what?</title>
	<author>JakFrost</author>
	<datestamp>1256389620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To me Windows 7 is a lot like a refreshed version of Windows XP with newer graphics, a few better interoperability features (Windows Key + Left, Right, Up, Down), and new hardware support.</p><p>I've used Windows 2000 Professional as my personal OS, skipping Windows XP until they finally fixed all the issues with that OS somewhere around SP2 time line then I switched.  I did the same thing with this new OS also, I skipped on Windows Vista, until SP3 (aka Windows 7) came out and have been using it since the Beta, then Release Candidate, and soon Release To Manufacturing release that I'll be installing this weekend.</p><p>My experience at each OS switch has been roughly the same, newer and more graphical interface, some new features, and hardware support for newer devices.  It's been the same release pattern with Microsoft for quite a few OS releases now.  There is always a release that gets skipped because it isn't deemed worthy of usage by the general population.  (Do you remember MS-DOS 4.11 -&gt; 5.0 -&gt; (skip 6.0) -&gt; 6.22 release cycle?, what about Microsoft Windows 2 -&gt; 3.0 -&gt; (skip 3.1) -&gt; 3.11 Windows for Workgroups or Windows 95 -&gt; Windows 98 OSR2 -&gt; (skip Windows ME) -&gt; Windows 2000 Pro)</p><p>Now if someone at Microsoft could see their own history they would be wiser in the future to build a whole new OS, shelve it for internal usage only, get disgusted and fix the problems, then release the new updated version to the public?  It would save us the problems of being public beta testers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To me Windows 7 is a lot like a refreshed version of Windows XP with newer graphics , a few better interoperability features ( Windows Key + Left , Right , Up , Down ) , and new hardware support.I 've used Windows 2000 Professional as my personal OS , skipping Windows XP until they finally fixed all the issues with that OS somewhere around SP2 time line then I switched .
I did the same thing with this new OS also , I skipped on Windows Vista , until SP3 ( aka Windows 7 ) came out and have been using it since the Beta , then Release Candidate , and soon Release To Manufacturing release that I 'll be installing this weekend.My experience at each OS switch has been roughly the same , newer and more graphical interface , some new features , and hardware support for newer devices .
It 's been the same release pattern with Microsoft for quite a few OS releases now .
There is always a release that gets skipped because it is n't deemed worthy of usage by the general population .
( Do you remember MS-DOS 4.11 - &gt; 5.0 - &gt; ( skip 6.0 ) - &gt; 6.22 release cycle ? , what about Microsoft Windows 2 - &gt; 3.0 - &gt; ( skip 3.1 ) - &gt; 3.11 Windows for Workgroups or Windows 95 - &gt; Windows 98 OSR2 - &gt; ( skip Windows ME ) - &gt; Windows 2000 Pro ) Now if someone at Microsoft could see their own history they would be wiser in the future to build a whole new OS , shelve it for internal usage only , get disgusted and fix the problems , then release the new updated version to the public ?
It would save us the problems of being public beta testers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To me Windows 7 is a lot like a refreshed version of Windows XP with newer graphics, a few better interoperability features (Windows Key + Left, Right, Up, Down), and new hardware support.I've used Windows 2000 Professional as my personal OS, skipping Windows XP until they finally fixed all the issues with that OS somewhere around SP2 time line then I switched.
I did the same thing with this new OS also, I skipped on Windows Vista, until SP3 (aka Windows 7) came out and have been using it since the Beta, then Release Candidate, and soon Release To Manufacturing release that I'll be installing this weekend.My experience at each OS switch has been roughly the same, newer and more graphical interface, some new features, and hardware support for newer devices.
It's been the same release pattern with Microsoft for quite a few OS releases now.
There is always a release that gets skipped because it isn't deemed worthy of usage by the general population.
(Do you remember MS-DOS 4.11 -&gt; 5.0 -&gt; (skip 6.0) -&gt; 6.22 release cycle?, what about Microsoft Windows 2 -&gt; 3.0 -&gt; (skip 3.1) -&gt; 3.11 Windows for Workgroups or Windows 95 -&gt; Windows 98 OSR2 -&gt; (skip Windows ME) -&gt; Windows 2000 Pro)Now if someone at Microsoft could see their own history they would be wiser in the future to build a whole new OS, shelve it for internal usage only, get disgusted and fix the problems, then release the new updated version to the public?
It would save us the problems of being public beta testers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29863439</id>
	<title>Re:Vastly superior</title>
	<author>Ash-Fox</author>
	<datestamp>1256472480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Linux is unusable, compared to Windows 7.</p></div></blockquote><p>I don't know where you get that from, but <a href="http://ash-fox.quickfox.org/temp/win7rtmmsvcfirefox" title="quickfox.org">I am pretty capable of making things crash on Windows 7 without even trying</a> [quickfox.org].</p><p>Amusingly, the majority of crashes are caused by the C++ runtime according to eventvwr.msc.</p><blockquote><div><p>Absolutely. Unusuable. Linux is only fit to be installed as a system where you will likely never need to mess with it's software ever again after you have it running.</p></div></blockquote><p>Don't use a Linux for the insane distribution then.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux is unusable , compared to Windows 7.I do n't know where you get that from , but I am pretty capable of making things crash on Windows 7 without even trying [ quickfox.org ] .Amusingly , the majority of crashes are caused by the C + + runtime according to eventvwr.msc.Absolutely .
Unusuable. Linux is only fit to be installed as a system where you will likely never need to mess with it 's software ever again after you have it running.Do n't use a Linux for the insane distribution then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux is unusable, compared to Windows 7.I don't know where you get that from, but I am pretty capable of making things crash on Windows 7 without even trying [quickfox.org].Amusingly, the majority of crashes are caused by the C++ runtime according to eventvwr.msc.Absolutely.
Unusuable. Linux is only fit to be installed as a system where you will likely never need to mess with it's software ever again after you have it running.Don't use a Linux for the insane distribution then.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858109</id>
	<title>Re:MS snatched victory from the jaws of failure...</title>
	<author>Torodung</author>
	<datestamp>1256410740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And if anyone had a job, they could all buy new computers. Oops. Economic timing at odds with market synergies. What to do?</p><p>We'll see how successful this launch is in 5 years. I'm sure they'll fake the numbers in the short term, even if no one is buying.</p><p>--<br>Toro</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And if anyone had a job , they could all buy new computers .
Oops. Economic timing at odds with market synergies .
What to do ? We 'll see how successful this launch is in 5 years .
I 'm sure they 'll fake the numbers in the short term , even if no one is buying.--Toro</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if anyone had a job, they could all buy new computers.
Oops. Economic timing at odds with market synergies.
What to do?We'll see how successful this launch is in 5 years.
I'm sure they'll fake the numbers in the short term, even if no one is buying.--Toro</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858693</id>
	<title>Re:So what?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256414760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Re: Networking</p><p>I've just tried to get vista to re-request a DHCP address (after I reconfigured our DHCP server) and after 30 minutes I gave up and resorted to rebooting the machine. (It doesn't seem to let you renew unless it has decided that the connection is "broken").</p><p>Have they fixed Win 7 enough to perform this simple operation without a full reboot?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Re : NetworkingI 've just tried to get vista to re-request a DHCP address ( after I reconfigured our DHCP server ) and after 30 minutes I gave up and resorted to rebooting the machine .
( It does n't seem to let you renew unless it has decided that the connection is " broken " ) .Have they fixed Win 7 enough to perform this simple operation without a full reboot ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Re: NetworkingI've just tried to get vista to re-request a DHCP address (after I reconfigured our DHCP server) and after 30 minutes I gave up and resorted to rebooting the machine.
(It doesn't seem to let you renew unless it has decided that the connection is "broken").Have they fixed Win 7 enough to perform this simple operation without a full reboot?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858269</id>
	<title>Farhad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256411760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone who looks to either Farhad or Dvorak for insight needs to have their head examined.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone who looks to either Farhad or Dvorak for insight needs to have their head examined .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone who looks to either Farhad or Dvorak for insight needs to have their head examined.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29861665</id>
	<title>Re:It's more important MS had another release</title>
	<author>angelbunny</author>
	<datestamp>1256398260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People are cheap basterds. (There I said it!)</p><p>They do not want to fork out the extra cash for something that is arguably better. They just want to pay as little as they can for what they need. This is why MS has such a large fan base.</p><p>Unless a distro like ubuntu becomes as user friendly as Windows nothing is going to change. The mass consumer market doesn't care about the kernel of their OS or if it saves them a second on a load time. They just want that cheap instant gratification that is so American. If they took the time to learn how to use another OS then it might be different but that isn't the culture we have today.</p><p>I hate to break it to you but MS is not on its way out any time soon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People are cheap basterds .
( There I said it !
) They do not want to fork out the extra cash for something that is arguably better .
They just want to pay as little as they can for what they need .
This is why MS has such a large fan base.Unless a distro like ubuntu becomes as user friendly as Windows nothing is going to change .
The mass consumer market does n't care about the kernel of their OS or if it saves them a second on a load time .
They just want that cheap instant gratification that is so American .
If they took the time to learn how to use another OS then it might be different but that is n't the culture we have today.I hate to break it to you but MS is not on its way out any time soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People are cheap basterds.
(There I said it!
)They do not want to fork out the extra cash for something that is arguably better.
They just want to pay as little as they can for what they need.
This is why MS has such a large fan base.Unless a distro like ubuntu becomes as user friendly as Windows nothing is going to change.
The mass consumer market doesn't care about the kernel of their OS or if it saves them a second on a load time.
They just want that cheap instant gratification that is so American.
If they took the time to learn how to use another OS then it might be different but that isn't the culture we have today.I hate to break it to you but MS is not on its way out any time soon.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858163</id>
	<title>Windows 7 is...</title>
	<author>CFBMoo1</author>
	<datestamp>1256411220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>.. what Windows Vista should have been. I've been a day 1 adopter of both and Vista made me pull my hair out with driver problem, slow file operations, and a long boot time with a fresh install. Windows 7 on the other hand has had no driver issues for me, file operations are fast, and the boot time is even faster.<br><br>Microsoft needs to stop rushing and stop promising big. They also need to suck it up when people think something sucks and go back to the drawing board like they did to turn an ugly Vista duckling in to a nice 7 swan.</htmltext>
<tokenext>.. what Windows Vista should have been .
I 've been a day 1 adopter of both and Vista made me pull my hair out with driver problem , slow file operations , and a long boot time with a fresh install .
Windows 7 on the other hand has had no driver issues for me , file operations are fast , and the boot time is even faster.Microsoft needs to stop rushing and stop promising big .
They also need to suck it up when people think something sucks and go back to the drawing board like they did to turn an ugly Vista duckling in to a nice 7 swan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.. what Windows Vista should have been.
I've been a day 1 adopter of both and Vista made me pull my hair out with driver problem, slow file operations, and a long boot time with a fresh install.
Windows 7 on the other hand has had no driver issues for me, file operations are fast, and the boot time is even faster.Microsoft needs to stop rushing and stop promising big.
They also need to suck it up when people think something sucks and go back to the drawing board like they did to turn an ugly Vista duckling in to a nice 7 swan.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858083</id>
	<title>Obligatory Futurama response</title>
	<author>Dachannien</author>
	<datestamp>1256410620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><b>Small Glurmo:</b> But, your Highness, she's a commoner. Her Slurm will taste foul.<br><b>Slurm Queen:</b> Yes, which is why we'll market it as New Slurm. Then, when everyone hates it, we'll bring back Slurm Classic and make billions!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Small Glurmo : But , your Highness , she 's a commoner .
Her Slurm will taste foul.Slurm Queen : Yes , which is why we 'll market it as New Slurm .
Then , when everyone hates it , we 'll bring back Slurm Classic and make billions !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Small Glurmo: But, your Highness, she's a commoner.
Her Slurm will taste foul.Slurm Queen: Yes, which is why we'll market it as New Slurm.
Then, when everyone hates it, we'll bring back Slurm Classic and make billions!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859029</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone REALLY take Dvorak seriously?</title>
	<author>Spykk</author>
	<datestamp>1256417460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I've been listening to Dvorak on Twit for a few years now.</p></div><p><div class="quote"><p>Why does anyone listen to this guy?</p></div><p>
Er...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been listening to Dvorak on Twit for a few years now.Why does anyone listen to this guy ?
Er.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been listening to Dvorak on Twit for a few years now.Why does anyone listen to this guy?
Er...
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29862483</id>
	<title>Dvorak seems like...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256409300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To me, Dvorak has always seemed to me like the Bill O'Reilly of the PC world. If you're a super-conservative bare-bones PC nut, you think he's awesome. If you don't really care and just want your computer to do what you want it to do, and to you "GUI" isn't a bad word, then Dvorak is a bastard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To me , Dvorak has always seemed to me like the Bill O'Reilly of the PC world .
If you 're a super-conservative bare-bones PC nut , you think he 's awesome .
If you do n't really care and just want your computer to do what you want it to do , and to you " GUI " is n't a bad word , then Dvorak is a bastard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To me, Dvorak has always seemed to me like the Bill O'Reilly of the PC world.
If you're a super-conservative bare-bones PC nut, you think he's awesome.
If you don't really care and just want your computer to do what you want it to do, and to you "GUI" isn't a bad word, then Dvorak is a bastard.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859177</id>
	<title>Google "Farhad Manjoo" + Microsoft: Poodle</title>
	<author>curmudgeon99</author>
	<datestamp>1256375220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suggest that you Google "Farhad Manjoo" + Microsoft. You will find clear evidence that he is a Microsoft Poodle. You can find dozens of places where he is obviously shilling for Microsoft. Don't trust a damn thing this "Farhad Manjoo" jackass says.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suggest that you Google " Farhad Manjoo " + Microsoft .
You will find clear evidence that he is a Microsoft Poodle .
You can find dozens of places where he is obviously shilling for Microsoft .
Do n't trust a damn thing this " Farhad Manjoo " jackass says .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suggest that you Google "Farhad Manjoo" + Microsoft.
You will find clear evidence that he is a Microsoft Poodle.
You can find dozens of places where he is obviously shilling for Microsoft.
Don't trust a damn thing this "Farhad Manjoo" jackass says.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29862193</id>
	<title>Commence cricle jerk in 3..2..1..</title>
	<author>starfire83</author>
	<datestamp>1256404740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I love anti-MS circle jerks on slashdot articles and zealots saying how Linux is so superior yet Linux lacks even a modicum of finesse that Windows has.

Windows 7 hands down beats any OS I've used including the several large distros of Linux I've used (RedHat, Fedora, Slackware, Ubuntu, Mandriva). It works, has almost no driver problems so things Just Work (TM), and is god damn stable. It's better than any Windows OS ever released. The new UI while played down as "nothing major" by you FOSS zealots makes the workflow of Win7 much faster and more intuitive than OS X or Linux is currently capable of. Not only that, the potential that software devs have is enormous with being able to integrate jumplists and stuff right into their taskbar icons and start menu. Have any of you anti-MS zealots even used Windows since 3.1? Live in the now, man.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I love anti-MS circle jerks on slashdot articles and zealots saying how Linux is so superior yet Linux lacks even a modicum of finesse that Windows has .
Windows 7 hands down beats any OS I 've used including the several large distros of Linux I 've used ( RedHat , Fedora , Slackware , Ubuntu , Mandriva ) .
It works , has almost no driver problems so things Just Work ( TM ) , and is god damn stable .
It 's better than any Windows OS ever released .
The new UI while played down as " nothing major " by you FOSS zealots makes the workflow of Win7 much faster and more intuitive than OS X or Linux is currently capable of .
Not only that , the potential that software devs have is enormous with being able to integrate jumplists and stuff right into their taskbar icons and start menu .
Have any of you anti-MS zealots even used Windows since 3.1 ?
Live in the now , man .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love anti-MS circle jerks on slashdot articles and zealots saying how Linux is so superior yet Linux lacks even a modicum of finesse that Windows has.
Windows 7 hands down beats any OS I've used including the several large distros of Linux I've used (RedHat, Fedora, Slackware, Ubuntu, Mandriva).
It works, has almost no driver problems so things Just Work (TM), and is god damn stable.
It's better than any Windows OS ever released.
The new UI while played down as "nothing major" by you FOSS zealots makes the workflow of Win7 much faster and more intuitive than OS X or Linux is currently capable of.
Not only that, the potential that software devs have is enormous with being able to integrate jumplists and stuff right into their taskbar icons and start menu.
Have any of you anti-MS zealots even used Windows since 3.1?
Live in the now, man.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858655</id>
	<title>Windows 7 sucks</title>
	<author>JustNiz</author>
	<datestamp>1256414460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I went to the new Microsoft store in Scottsdale and had a demo of Windows 7. The demonstrator was having a hard time covering up the fact it kept stalling and was even harder to find or get to anything than in Vista. When asked what the improvements were over Vista all he could do was point to some DVD editing app, show how you could shake windows to hide them, and to point out a new shortcut to a Microsoft internet sales portal. So basically nothing new in the OS itself other than a toy application and an internet shortcut designed to make you pay more to Microsoft.</p><p>The fundamental problem is that each new version of Windows keeps building more and more layers of 'features' and artificial views that just get in the way, and Windows 7 is no different. Its now at the point where you haven't got a clue where your files actually are on the disk any more or whats going on with the system any more.  Instead of enabling users, they are treating them more and more like morons to be forced down a single path. With Windows 7 If your lifestyle, workflow, and file organisation preferences are in any way different to Microsoft's view of how you should live, act, and think, the system punishes you by being awkward and useless until you change your lifestyle to suit it.</p><p>Honestly, the trip to the Microsoft store to check out Windows 7 was the last chance I was giving Microsoft after having already wasted serious money on Vista. My options were to upgrade to Windows 7 or finally say goodbye to Microsoft forever. On the strength of what I saw at the Microsoft store I uninstalled Vista and have now moved entirely over to Ubuntu Linux as my main OS. I'm very happy and haven't looked back since.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I went to the new Microsoft store in Scottsdale and had a demo of Windows 7 .
The demonstrator was having a hard time covering up the fact it kept stalling and was even harder to find or get to anything than in Vista .
When asked what the improvements were over Vista all he could do was point to some DVD editing app , show how you could shake windows to hide them , and to point out a new shortcut to a Microsoft internet sales portal .
So basically nothing new in the OS itself other than a toy application and an internet shortcut designed to make you pay more to Microsoft.The fundamental problem is that each new version of Windows keeps building more and more layers of 'features ' and artificial views that just get in the way , and Windows 7 is no different .
Its now at the point where you have n't got a clue where your files actually are on the disk any more or whats going on with the system any more .
Instead of enabling users , they are treating them more and more like morons to be forced down a single path .
With Windows 7 If your lifestyle , workflow , and file organisation preferences are in any way different to Microsoft 's view of how you should live , act , and think , the system punishes you by being awkward and useless until you change your lifestyle to suit it.Honestly , the trip to the Microsoft store to check out Windows 7 was the last chance I was giving Microsoft after having already wasted serious money on Vista .
My options were to upgrade to Windows 7 or finally say goodbye to Microsoft forever .
On the strength of what I saw at the Microsoft store I uninstalled Vista and have now moved entirely over to Ubuntu Linux as my main OS .
I 'm very happy and have n't looked back since .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I went to the new Microsoft store in Scottsdale and had a demo of Windows 7.
The demonstrator was having a hard time covering up the fact it kept stalling and was even harder to find or get to anything than in Vista.
When asked what the improvements were over Vista all he could do was point to some DVD editing app, show how you could shake windows to hide them, and to point out a new shortcut to a Microsoft internet sales portal.
So basically nothing new in the OS itself other than a toy application and an internet shortcut designed to make you pay more to Microsoft.The fundamental problem is that each new version of Windows keeps building more and more layers of 'features' and artificial views that just get in the way, and Windows 7 is no different.
Its now at the point where you haven't got a clue where your files actually are on the disk any more or whats going on with the system any more.
Instead of enabling users, they are treating them more and more like morons to be forced down a single path.
With Windows 7 If your lifestyle, workflow, and file organisation preferences are in any way different to Microsoft's view of how you should live, act, and think, the system punishes you by being awkward and useless until you change your lifestyle to suit it.Honestly, the trip to the Microsoft store to check out Windows 7 was the last chance I was giving Microsoft after having already wasted serious money on Vista.
My options were to upgrade to Windows 7 or finally say goodbye to Microsoft forever.
On the strength of what I saw at the Microsoft store I uninstalled Vista and have now moved entirely over to Ubuntu Linux as my main OS.
I'm very happy and haven't looked back since.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858207</id>
	<title>On Par with XP, Quality-Wise</title>
	<author>ovanklot</author>
	<datestamp>1256411400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been using Windows 7 for a couple of months now, since it was RTW, after using Vista for a couple of years.<br>There is absolutely no comparison to Vista in terms of speed and stability, as it it far better. I also love some of the new features they added. Windows 7 is to Windows Vista what Windows XP was to Windows ME.</p><p>By the way, Apple's ads have been going downhill since they started. They started out nice and truthful, highlighting Microsoft's failures and Apple's successes nicely, but now they've turned into mostly FUD and cheap-shots.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using Windows 7 for a couple of months now , since it was RTW , after using Vista for a couple of years.There is absolutely no comparison to Vista in terms of speed and stability , as it it far better .
I also love some of the new features they added .
Windows 7 is to Windows Vista what Windows XP was to Windows ME.By the way , Apple 's ads have been going downhill since they started .
They started out nice and truthful , highlighting Microsoft 's failures and Apple 's successes nicely , but now they 've turned into mostly FUD and cheap-shots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using Windows 7 for a couple of months now, since it was RTW, after using Vista for a couple of years.There is absolutely no comparison to Vista in terms of speed and stability, as it it far better.
I also love some of the new features they added.
Windows 7 is to Windows Vista what Windows XP was to Windows ME.By the way, Apple's ads have been going downhill since they started.
They started out nice and truthful, highlighting Microsoft's failures and Apple's successes nicely, but now they've turned into mostly FUD and cheap-shots.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29861491</id>
	<title>Re:Good and bad...</title>
	<author>pbaer</author>
	<datestamp>1256396700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Ubuntu Netbook Remix UI is amazing. I use it on desktops too because it is so good. It is intuitive, functional, and space efficient. I wish the file browser was faster, but that's my only complaint with it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Ubuntu Netbook Remix UI is amazing .
I use it on desktops too because it is so good .
It is intuitive , functional , and space efficient .
I wish the file browser was faster , but that 's my only complaint with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Ubuntu Netbook Remix UI is amazing.
I use it on desktops too because it is so good.
It is intuitive, functional, and space efficient.
I wish the file browser was faster, but that's my only complaint with it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857905</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29873293</id>
	<title>Re:It's the best version of Windows I've used so f</title>
	<author>Cro Magnon</author>
	<datestamp>1256576100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>*cough*Vista*uncough*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* cough * Vista * uncough *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*cough*Vista*uncough*</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29861203</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858033</id>
	<title>Does anyone REALLY take Dvorak seriously?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256410380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been listening to Dvorak on Twit for a few years now. Why does <i>anyone</i> listen to this guy? His whole shtick is to say everything sucks. I'm guessing LaPorte, Marketwatch, et. al. have him on for the "controversy", but more often than not he's just wasting everyone's time.<p>

I know this stuff has been beaten to death, but here's a guy who:</p><p>

A) thought the mouse was a waste of time<br>
B) thought the iPhone would fail<br>
C) proclaimed there was no way Google would ever buy YouTube</p><p>

among other things. In a strange sort of way, I almost admire him. He's managed to make a career of just complaining about stuff with not much to back it up.</p><p>


The only thing I sort of remember is Dvorak claiming he had the scoop on Apple switching to Intel, but IIRC the rocket scientists at MacOS Rumors made the same claim. The implication here is that that prediction may not have been the most difficult to devine (i.e., saying that in the future, there will be a cure for cancer or some other disease.)</p><p>

Quite frankly, if Dvorak is shitting all over Win7, my first reaction is that it's probably going to do well. In some ways, Dvorak is to tech as Jim Cramer is to stocks: Do the opposite of what they say and you'll be fine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been listening to Dvorak on Twit for a few years now .
Why does anyone listen to this guy ?
His whole shtick is to say everything sucks .
I 'm guessing LaPorte , Marketwatch , et .
al. have him on for the " controversy " , but more often than not he 's just wasting everyone 's time .
I know this stuff has been beaten to death , but here 's a guy who : A ) thought the mouse was a waste of time B ) thought the iPhone would fail C ) proclaimed there was no way Google would ever buy YouTube among other things .
In a strange sort of way , I almost admire him .
He 's managed to make a career of just complaining about stuff with not much to back it up .
The only thing I sort of remember is Dvorak claiming he had the scoop on Apple switching to Intel , but IIRC the rocket scientists at MacOS Rumors made the same claim .
The implication here is that that prediction may not have been the most difficult to devine ( i.e. , saying that in the future , there will be a cure for cancer or some other disease .
) Quite frankly , if Dvorak is shitting all over Win7 , my first reaction is that it 's probably going to do well .
In some ways , Dvorak is to tech as Jim Cramer is to stocks : Do the opposite of what they say and you 'll be fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been listening to Dvorak on Twit for a few years now.
Why does anyone listen to this guy?
His whole shtick is to say everything sucks.
I'm guessing LaPorte, Marketwatch, et.
al. have him on for the "controversy", but more often than not he's just wasting everyone's time.
I know this stuff has been beaten to death, but here's a guy who:

A) thought the mouse was a waste of time
B) thought the iPhone would fail
C) proclaimed there was no way Google would ever buy YouTube

among other things.
In a strange sort of way, I almost admire him.
He's managed to make a career of just complaining about stuff with not much to back it up.
The only thing I sort of remember is Dvorak claiming he had the scoop on Apple switching to Intel, but IIRC the rocket scientists at MacOS Rumors made the same claim.
The implication here is that that prediction may not have been the most difficult to devine (i.e., saying that in the future, there will be a cure for cancer or some other disease.
)

Quite frankly, if Dvorak is shitting all over Win7, my first reaction is that it's probably going to do well.
In some ways, Dvorak is to tech as Jim Cramer is to stocks: Do the opposite of what they say and you'll be fine.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857913</id>
	<title>not a download issue...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256409600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>anybody realize that you can't do an upgrade installation from a 32 bit OS to 64 bit?  and this has nothing to do with the download?  Not even MS support?</p><p>Sure, an iso would be nice, but still, lots of people getting their facts wrong...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>anybody realize that you ca n't do an upgrade installation from a 32 bit OS to 64 bit ?
and this has nothing to do with the download ?
Not even MS support ? Sure , an iso would be nice , but still , lots of people getting their facts wrong.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>anybody realize that you can't do an upgrade installation from a 32 bit OS to 64 bit?
and this has nothing to do with the download?
Not even MS support?Sure, an iso would be nice, but still, lots of people getting their facts wrong...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29888789</id>
	<title>Re:Show me a bullet list</title>
	<author>stewbacca</author>
	<datestamp>1256636280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not the list of features that matters, it's how well the features in the list work. Once Microsoft learns that simple lesson, they'll make a good OS.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not the list of features that matters , it 's how well the features in the list work .
Once Microsoft learns that simple lesson , they 'll make a good OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not the list of features that matters, it's how well the features in the list work.
Once Microsoft learns that simple lesson, they'll make a good OS.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858231</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859263</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone REALLY take Dvorak seriously?</title>
	<author>multipart/mixed</author>
	<datestamp>1256375940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I dunno. He had a column in Byte magazine I used to like.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I dunno .
He had a column in Byte magazine I used to like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dunno.
He had a column in Byte magazine I used to like.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858033</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857937</id>
	<title>Different reasons</title>
	<author>Darkness404</author>
	<datestamp>1256409780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are many uses of Windows and each will offer their different opinion, there are some people who will use Windows 7 to get things done. The fact that it seems to run faster than Vista, seems to have usability improvements and has some new features makes it a "win" in their eye. There are some people who just use a computer for internet, e-mail and perhaps typing up a few documents. Windows 7 wins in that it is faster than Vista, is currently lesser used so for a while it will be more secure, and it seems like MS learned to only certify machines that will actually run Windows 7 decently so we won't have some of the Vista disasters, however it is still not as familiar as XP is, so it will require some re-learning especially if they are one of the many still using XP. Then there are the PC "fanboys" these people are usually either people with a lot of cash and like having "the fastest" machine, are PC gamers or developers with expensive MS certifications. These people see Windows 7 and the second coming of the messiah and will overlook any and all flaws. There are still other people who look at each OS looking for the "perfect" OS, they will undoubtedly see many flaws and some benefits to using Windows 7. And yet there are people who prefer a different OS, but are looking at Windows 7 to run Windows only apps, with the XP compatibility mode, the fact that Windows 7 is installed by default on most newer computers now, and the improved speed will usually make these people like it for its features, but still feel that their installed OS (OS X, Linux, BSD, VMS, etc) is still superior.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are many uses of Windows and each will offer their different opinion , there are some people who will use Windows 7 to get things done .
The fact that it seems to run faster than Vista , seems to have usability improvements and has some new features makes it a " win " in their eye .
There are some people who just use a computer for internet , e-mail and perhaps typing up a few documents .
Windows 7 wins in that it is faster than Vista , is currently lesser used so for a while it will be more secure , and it seems like MS learned to only certify machines that will actually run Windows 7 decently so we wo n't have some of the Vista disasters , however it is still not as familiar as XP is , so it will require some re-learning especially if they are one of the many still using XP .
Then there are the PC " fanboys " these people are usually either people with a lot of cash and like having " the fastest " machine , are PC gamers or developers with expensive MS certifications .
These people see Windows 7 and the second coming of the messiah and will overlook any and all flaws .
There are still other people who look at each OS looking for the " perfect " OS , they will undoubtedly see many flaws and some benefits to using Windows 7 .
And yet there are people who prefer a different OS , but are looking at Windows 7 to run Windows only apps , with the XP compatibility mode , the fact that Windows 7 is installed by default on most newer computers now , and the improved speed will usually make these people like it for its features , but still feel that their installed OS ( OS X , Linux , BSD , VMS , etc ) is still superior .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are many uses of Windows and each will offer their different opinion, there are some people who will use Windows 7 to get things done.
The fact that it seems to run faster than Vista, seems to have usability improvements and has some new features makes it a "win" in their eye.
There are some people who just use a computer for internet, e-mail and perhaps typing up a few documents.
Windows 7 wins in that it is faster than Vista, is currently lesser used so for a while it will be more secure, and it seems like MS learned to only certify machines that will actually run Windows 7 decently so we won't have some of the Vista disasters, however it is still not as familiar as XP is, so it will require some re-learning especially if they are one of the many still using XP.
Then there are the PC "fanboys" these people are usually either people with a lot of cash and like having "the fastest" machine, are PC gamers or developers with expensive MS certifications.
These people see Windows 7 and the second coming of the messiah and will overlook any and all flaws.
There are still other people who look at each OS looking for the "perfect" OS, they will undoubtedly see many flaws and some benefits to using Windows 7.
And yet there are people who prefer a different OS, but are looking at Windows 7 to run Windows only apps, with the XP compatibility mode, the fact that Windows 7 is installed by default on most newer computers now, and the improved speed will usually make these people like it for its features, but still feel that their installed OS (OS X, Linux, BSD, VMS, etc) is still superior.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858575</id>
	<title>Re:Dvorak is the enemy of slashdot</title>
	<author>ewrong</author>
	<datestamp>1256413860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>James Bond?</p><p>
<a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/10/24/166241/A-Tale-of-Two-Windows-7s?from=rss" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/10/24/166241/A-Tale-of-Two-Windows-7s?from=rss</a> [slashdot.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>James Bond ?
http : //tech.slashdot.org/story/09/10/24/166241/A-Tale-of-Two-Windows-7s ? from = rss [ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>James Bond?
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/10/24/166241/A-Tale-of-Two-Windows-7s?from=rss [slashdot.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858157</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858997</id>
	<title>Platinum 7</title>
	<author>BlueBoxSW.com</author>
	<datestamp>1256417280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For cheap vodkas, I drink Platinum 7. Filtered 7 times, and tastes just as good in a mixed drink as any of the more expensive vodkas.</p><p>As for Windows 7, I've only spent 5 minutes with it on a laptop that previously ran Vista. It's much quicker and more stable, so in comparison to Vista, a vast improvement.</p><p>Will it replace XP Pro on my development computers? Not anytime soon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For cheap vodkas , I drink Platinum 7 .
Filtered 7 times , and tastes just as good in a mixed drink as any of the more expensive vodkas.As for Windows 7 , I 've only spent 5 minutes with it on a laptop that previously ran Vista .
It 's much quicker and more stable , so in comparison to Vista , a vast improvement.Will it replace XP Pro on my development computers ?
Not anytime soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For cheap vodkas, I drink Platinum 7.
Filtered 7 times, and tastes just as good in a mixed drink as any of the more expensive vodkas.As for Windows 7, I've only spent 5 minutes with it on a laptop that previously ran Vista.
It's much quicker and more stable, so in comparison to Vista, a vast improvement.Will it replace XP Pro on my development computers?
Not anytime soon.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858835</id>
	<title>On That Picture of Linus</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256416080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's nice to think that Microsoft cared enough to set up a booth across the street from the Japan Linux Symposium but it shows some seriously inflated ego. Looking at the picture, you can see that it's a Yodobashi Camera booth. Yodobashi have booths like that one for every major brand.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's nice to think that Microsoft cared enough to set up a booth across the street from the Japan Linux Symposium but it shows some seriously inflated ego .
Looking at the picture , you can see that it 's a Yodobashi Camera booth .
Yodobashi have booths like that one for every major brand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's nice to think that Microsoft cared enough to set up a booth across the street from the Japan Linux Symposium but it shows some seriously inflated ego.
Looking at the picture, you can see that it's a Yodobashi Camera booth.
Yodobashi have booths like that one for every major brand.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29863315</id>
	<title>Those guys with all the money</title>
	<author>mirshafie</author>
	<datestamp>1256469600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The way I see it -- the way my old man always saw it -- is that Microsofts marketing and branding strategy, though dated, makes sense. Ordinary People (TM) are prepared to pay Big Money (R) to get a faster and fresher computer, and if they need to bin their four year old XP machine for a brand new Vista to get it, then that is just the way it is and they accept it. To Computer Nerds (GPL) this stings, because we know that those four year old computers still have a lot of life in them, and that XP can be a quite decent OS if tweaked properly. If Microsoft made the effort to gradually upgrade their products once every other year that would probably eliminate a significant chunk of computer hardware sales. But the loser would be Microsofts most important partners, the hardware manufacturers.</p><p>Now the way that my old man sees it is that Windows 7 is a real improvement as far as interface is concerned. Everything from the file structure to basic user interactions such as dialogs or the taskbar and Explorer seem matured and polished. I've been testing Win 7 RC for a couple of weeks, and although I had many stability issues the first week, I'm now completely convinced to make the switch from XP. Right now I'm running it on a Gigabyte GC-230D board with Intel Atom chips (1,6 Ghz CPU) and 2GB ram, Aero turned on, and it performs acceptably. And this comes from the guy who ran Windows 95 until well into 2003, for the fear of XP being another Windows 97, 98, or god forbid Me.</p><p>As for the licensing and intrusion issues I have nothing to comment, other than this time around I won't be able to afford to buy a legit copy, so my usage will be determined by the availability of working free copies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The way I see it -- the way my old man always saw it -- is that Microsofts marketing and branding strategy , though dated , makes sense .
Ordinary People ( TM ) are prepared to pay Big Money ( R ) to get a faster and fresher computer , and if they need to bin their four year old XP machine for a brand new Vista to get it , then that is just the way it is and they accept it .
To Computer Nerds ( GPL ) this stings , because we know that those four year old computers still have a lot of life in them , and that XP can be a quite decent OS if tweaked properly .
If Microsoft made the effort to gradually upgrade their products once every other year that would probably eliminate a significant chunk of computer hardware sales .
But the loser would be Microsofts most important partners , the hardware manufacturers.Now the way that my old man sees it is that Windows 7 is a real improvement as far as interface is concerned .
Everything from the file structure to basic user interactions such as dialogs or the taskbar and Explorer seem matured and polished .
I 've been testing Win 7 RC for a couple of weeks , and although I had many stability issues the first week , I 'm now completely convinced to make the switch from XP .
Right now I 'm running it on a Gigabyte GC-230D board with Intel Atom chips ( 1,6 Ghz CPU ) and 2GB ram , Aero turned on , and it performs acceptably .
And this comes from the guy who ran Windows 95 until well into 2003 , for the fear of XP being another Windows 97 , 98 , or god forbid Me.As for the licensing and intrusion issues I have nothing to comment , other than this time around I wo n't be able to afford to buy a legit copy , so my usage will be determined by the availability of working free copies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The way I see it -- the way my old man always saw it -- is that Microsofts marketing and branding strategy, though dated, makes sense.
Ordinary People (TM) are prepared to pay Big Money (R) to get a faster and fresher computer, and if they need to bin their four year old XP machine for a brand new Vista to get it, then that is just the way it is and they accept it.
To Computer Nerds (GPL) this stings, because we know that those four year old computers still have a lot of life in them, and that XP can be a quite decent OS if tweaked properly.
If Microsoft made the effort to gradually upgrade their products once every other year that would probably eliminate a significant chunk of computer hardware sales.
But the loser would be Microsofts most important partners, the hardware manufacturers.Now the way that my old man sees it is that Windows 7 is a real improvement as far as interface is concerned.
Everything from the file structure to basic user interactions such as dialogs or the taskbar and Explorer seem matured and polished.
I've been testing Win 7 RC for a couple of weeks, and although I had many stability issues the first week, I'm now completely convinced to make the switch from XP.
Right now I'm running it on a Gigabyte GC-230D board with Intel Atom chips (1,6 Ghz CPU) and 2GB ram, Aero turned on, and it performs acceptably.
And this comes from the guy who ran Windows 95 until well into 2003, for the fear of XP being another Windows 97, 98, or god forbid Me.As for the licensing and intrusion issues I have nothing to comment, other than this time around I won't be able to afford to buy a legit copy, so my usage will be determined by the availability of working free copies.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29861771</id>
	<title>Not bad...</title>
	<author>i-am-mouse</author>
	<datestamp>1256399340000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Windows 7 seems like a more refined XP to me. I skipped Vista so I can't make a comparison there. I installed it on a 5-year-old mb and 2.8GHz P4 and 1GB RAM and it runs fine. The only serious issue I've had is that if I move a window which is playing video (e.g. VLC or WMP) off the top of the screen it locks the video card up, but that's almost certainly a driver issue (XP video drivers are the only ones available). I had a minor issue with mIrc, but the Help-system-suggested resolution was actually relevant and correct. So far it seems to run everything I want just fine, but there's nothing really compelling about it over XP. And, no, the chess game and Mah-jongg don't count.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows 7 seems like a more refined XP to me .
I skipped Vista so I ca n't make a comparison there .
I installed it on a 5-year-old mb and 2.8GHz P4 and 1GB RAM and it runs fine .
The only serious issue I 've had is that if I move a window which is playing video ( e.g .
VLC or WMP ) off the top of the screen it locks the video card up , but that 's almost certainly a driver issue ( XP video drivers are the only ones available ) .
I had a minor issue with mIrc , but the Help-system-suggested resolution was actually relevant and correct .
So far it seems to run everything I want just fine , but there 's nothing really compelling about it over XP .
And , no , the chess game and Mah-jongg do n't count .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows 7 seems like a more refined XP to me.
I skipped Vista so I can't make a comparison there.
I installed it on a 5-year-old mb and 2.8GHz P4 and 1GB RAM and it runs fine.
The only serious issue I've had is that if I move a window which is playing video (e.g.
VLC or WMP) off the top of the screen it locks the video card up, but that's almost certainly a driver issue (XP video drivers are the only ones available).
I had a minor issue with mIrc, but the Help-system-suggested resolution was actually relevant and correct.
So far it seems to run everything I want just fine, but there's nothing really compelling about it over XP.
And, no, the chess game and Mah-jongg don't count.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29885157</id>
	<title>AeroPeek not better..</title>
	<author>stewbacca</author>
	<datestamp>1256664540000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Yes, it is great that Windows 7 includes a bunch of nice features that are basically takes on what OSX has been doing for a long time now. No, it isn't great to give Microsoft a ton of credit for basically copying a good feature. For example, AeroPeek is great, but it isn't new, or even better than OSX "Preview".  <p>By touting Win7 being "faster" because all you do is hover over an icon, is silly. Apple UI engineers have consistently designed elements to require a modifier key to avoid accidental actions. Without requiring the user to press a modifier key, Microsoft has caused one of the most enraging features of computing--stuff popping up without the user asking for it, or understanding why...think of those crappy double underlined links on web pages that pop-up a bunch of info just because your mouse ran over it. </p><p>The "better" way is the way OSX does it. You can click+hold+wait a milisecond, or you can click and hit the space-bar.  Either way, you get a responsive system that only acts when you request it to do something, without the possibility of accidental triggering.</p><p>

AeroSnap looks like a good feature. I'll have to see it to determine if I like it better than Expose.  It seems to be Expose in reverse.  Expose snaps all open windows, but only to see them. It would be nice for Expose to keep them arranged this way when you are done expose-ing (or maybe it does and I'm too lazy to try).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , it is great that Windows 7 includes a bunch of nice features that are basically takes on what OSX has been doing for a long time now .
No , it is n't great to give Microsoft a ton of credit for basically copying a good feature .
For example , AeroPeek is great , but it is n't new , or even better than OSX " Preview " .
By touting Win7 being " faster " because all you do is hover over an icon , is silly .
Apple UI engineers have consistently designed elements to require a modifier key to avoid accidental actions .
Without requiring the user to press a modifier key , Microsoft has caused one of the most enraging features of computing--stuff popping up without the user asking for it , or understanding why...think of those crappy double underlined links on web pages that pop-up a bunch of info just because your mouse ran over it .
The " better " way is the way OSX does it .
You can click + hold + wait a milisecond , or you can click and hit the space-bar .
Either way , you get a responsive system that only acts when you request it to do something , without the possibility of accidental triggering .
AeroSnap looks like a good feature .
I 'll have to see it to determine if I like it better than Expose .
It seems to be Expose in reverse .
Expose snaps all open windows , but only to see them .
It would be nice for Expose to keep them arranged this way when you are done expose-ing ( or maybe it does and I 'm too lazy to try ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, it is great that Windows 7 includes a bunch of nice features that are basically takes on what OSX has been doing for a long time now.
No, it isn't great to give Microsoft a ton of credit for basically copying a good feature.
For example, AeroPeek is great, but it isn't new, or even better than OSX "Preview".
By touting Win7 being "faster" because all you do is hover over an icon, is silly.
Apple UI engineers have consistently designed elements to require a modifier key to avoid accidental actions.
Without requiring the user to press a modifier key, Microsoft has caused one of the most enraging features of computing--stuff popping up without the user asking for it, or understanding why...think of those crappy double underlined links on web pages that pop-up a bunch of info just because your mouse ran over it.
The "better" way is the way OSX does it.
You can click+hold+wait a milisecond, or you can click and hit the space-bar.
Either way, you get a responsive system that only acts when you request it to do something, without the possibility of accidental triggering.
AeroSnap looks like a good feature.
I'll have to see it to determine if I like it better than Expose.
It seems to be Expose in reverse.
Expose snaps all open windows, but only to see them.
It would be nice for Expose to keep them arranged this way when you are done expose-ing (or maybe it does and I'm too lazy to try).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29865279</id>
	<title>Re:Run the GUI - not the Computer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256493060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> The single greatest Apple commercial was the one where John Hodges decided to put all the money on PR and spend nothing to fix the product. It's so typical.</p></div><p>And there you show you're willing to believe a commercial campaign that represents the same thing you're complaining about.  Do you know what I've learned from those Mac vs PC commercials?  That Apple is willing to be hateful, deceitful, and utterly shameless in their marketing.  And then people eat it up.   I guess asking for Apple to stick to talking about their own products is too much to ask.</p><p>Oh well, I feel the same way when it's a politician, a car company or a fast food restaurant.   You want to sell me something?  Sell it on its own merits, not on how much you can bash the other guy.</p><p>But anyway, you talk about how Windows does things differently with its GUI in different versions.  I don't know about your experiences, but mine?  I haven't yet seen a consistent approach across distros to their GUI configuration tools, and yes, they do change across versions too.  Stop ignoring the log in your own eye.</p></div>
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<tokenext>The single greatest Apple commercial was the one where John Hodges decided to put all the money on PR and spend nothing to fix the product .
It 's so typical.And there you show you 're willing to believe a commercial campaign that represents the same thing you 're complaining about .
Do you know what I 've learned from those Mac vs PC commercials ?
That Apple is willing to be hateful , deceitful , and utterly shameless in their marketing .
And then people eat it up .
I guess asking for Apple to stick to talking about their own products is too much to ask.Oh well , I feel the same way when it 's a politician , a car company or a fast food restaurant .
You want to sell me something ?
Sell it on its own merits , not on how much you can bash the other guy.But anyway , you talk about how Windows does things differently with its GUI in different versions .
I do n't know about your experiences , but mine ?
I have n't yet seen a consistent approach across distros to their GUI configuration tools , and yes , they do change across versions too .
Stop ignoring the log in your own eye .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The single greatest Apple commercial was the one where John Hodges decided to put all the money on PR and spend nothing to fix the product.
It's so typical.And there you show you're willing to believe a commercial campaign that represents the same thing you're complaining about.
Do you know what I've learned from those Mac vs PC commercials?
That Apple is willing to be hateful, deceitful, and utterly shameless in their marketing.
And then people eat it up.
I guess asking for Apple to stick to talking about their own products is too much to ask.Oh well, I feel the same way when it's a politician, a car company or a fast food restaurant.
You want to sell me something?
Sell it on its own merits, not on how much you can bash the other guy.But anyway, you talk about how Windows does things differently with its GUI in different versions.
I don't know about your experiences, but mine?
I haven't yet seen a consistent approach across distros to their GUI configuration tools, and yes, they do change across versions too.
Stop ignoring the log in your own eye.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858513</id>
	<title>The best??</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1256413440000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It was the best of operating systems</p></div><p>Says who? I have yet to see a single human, that is not payed by Microsoft, say something that is even close to that.<br>It suggest, that you are also payed.</p><p>Also, the rhetoric device of the two sides, extrapolating a contrast where none is, is such an old hat, that you must be a real newbie in the business of viral marketing, to still use it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It was the best of operating systemsSays who ?
I have yet to see a single human , that is not payed by Microsoft , say something that is even close to that.It suggest , that you are also payed.Also , the rhetoric device of the two sides , extrapolating a contrast where none is , is such an old hat , that you must be a real newbie in the business of viral marketing , to still use it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was the best of operating systemsSays who?
I have yet to see a single human, that is not payed by Microsoft, say something that is even close to that.It suggest, that you are also payed.Also, the rhetoric device of the two sides, extrapolating a contrast where none is, is such an old hat, that you must be a real newbie in the business of viral marketing, to still use it.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29875447</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 Will beThe Death Knell For Microsoft</title>
	<author>RedBear</author>
	<datestamp>1256586180000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Sadly, you have far too much faith in the ability of the general public and general business world to recognize a dead end, or care about living in an ideal world. For businesses especially there are far too many resources still invested in proprietary Windows-based business software for them to completely abandon Windows for a long time to come. Most businesses didn't jump on the Vista bandwagon only because Vista had such poor initial performance and would have required too much investment in new hardware. Now that Windows 7 (Vista SP3) has solved most of the initial Vista issues and now that hardware has caught up more to the performance levels required by Vista, and since XP and a lot of business hardware is getting really long in the tooth, most businesses will now evaluate Windows 7 positively and commence flocking.</p><p>Both Linux and Mac OS X are still too big of a leap for most businesses to take, even today. Even on the server side, the Windows server versions are gaining or at least not losing so much ground anymore to Linux. Until the Linux development world wakes up and realizes how important it is to cater to the lowest common denominator and make even server interfaces as simple to use as Windows does, Windows is still "good enough" to do the job, just like it was from the beginning.</p><p>You would think everyone would realize after a quarter century of almost unimpeded success despite all suckage that Windows isn't going anywhere anytime soon. They don't even need to engage in abusive monopolistic behavior anymore. Unless something major completely changes the computing landscape, Windows has the momentum to keep haunting us for at least another decade or two. Hardware support and the availability of commercial applications will still have to get much better for Linux to really challenge Windows on the desktop. It will take another decade or longer for the Internet to evolve enough to become the main platform where most people run their applications. Only then will people cease to care about what operating system their computer is running, and Linux will finally be a serious threat to the dominance of Windows. But at that point, even though many people will be using Linux, most of them won't care enough to be aware of it. The web browser will be the new operating system.</p><p>The biggest threat from Microsoft for the future will be all the new idiotic proprietary web-based stuff they'll be inventing that will "work better" when running in Internet Explorer on Windows. They've known for a long time that eventually everything is heading for the Internet. But for now, very few individuals and businesses are simply going to abandon Windows because of the same mild suckage it has always had. Only the people who have used computers for a decade or more have the background to really get tired enough of Windows to make the jump. That, and the people who are new enough to computers that they haven't yet imprinted on Windows. Everyone else just doesn't care enough or doesn't encounter enough problems with Windows to even feel the need to get away from it. Sad, but true.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sadly , you have far too much faith in the ability of the general public and general business world to recognize a dead end , or care about living in an ideal world .
For businesses especially there are far too many resources still invested in proprietary Windows-based business software for them to completely abandon Windows for a long time to come .
Most businesses did n't jump on the Vista bandwagon only because Vista had such poor initial performance and would have required too much investment in new hardware .
Now that Windows 7 ( Vista SP3 ) has solved most of the initial Vista issues and now that hardware has caught up more to the performance levels required by Vista , and since XP and a lot of business hardware is getting really long in the tooth , most businesses will now evaluate Windows 7 positively and commence flocking.Both Linux and Mac OS X are still too big of a leap for most businesses to take , even today .
Even on the server side , the Windows server versions are gaining or at least not losing so much ground anymore to Linux .
Until the Linux development world wakes up and realizes how important it is to cater to the lowest common denominator and make even server interfaces as simple to use as Windows does , Windows is still " good enough " to do the job , just like it was from the beginning.You would think everyone would realize after a quarter century of almost unimpeded success despite all suckage that Windows is n't going anywhere anytime soon .
They do n't even need to engage in abusive monopolistic behavior anymore .
Unless something major completely changes the computing landscape , Windows has the momentum to keep haunting us for at least another decade or two .
Hardware support and the availability of commercial applications will still have to get much better for Linux to really challenge Windows on the desktop .
It will take another decade or longer for the Internet to evolve enough to become the main platform where most people run their applications .
Only then will people cease to care about what operating system their computer is running , and Linux will finally be a serious threat to the dominance of Windows .
But at that point , even though many people will be using Linux , most of them wo n't care enough to be aware of it .
The web browser will be the new operating system.The biggest threat from Microsoft for the future will be all the new idiotic proprietary web-based stuff they 'll be inventing that will " work better " when running in Internet Explorer on Windows .
They 've known for a long time that eventually everything is heading for the Internet .
But for now , very few individuals and businesses are simply going to abandon Windows because of the same mild suckage it has always had .
Only the people who have used computers for a decade or more have the background to really get tired enough of Windows to make the jump .
That , and the people who are new enough to computers that they have n't yet imprinted on Windows .
Everyone else just does n't care enough or does n't encounter enough problems with Windows to even feel the need to get away from it .
Sad , but true .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sadly, you have far too much faith in the ability of the general public and general business world to recognize a dead end, or care about living in an ideal world.
For businesses especially there are far too many resources still invested in proprietary Windows-based business software for them to completely abandon Windows for a long time to come.
Most businesses didn't jump on the Vista bandwagon only because Vista had such poor initial performance and would have required too much investment in new hardware.
Now that Windows 7 (Vista SP3) has solved most of the initial Vista issues and now that hardware has caught up more to the performance levels required by Vista, and since XP and a lot of business hardware is getting really long in the tooth, most businesses will now evaluate Windows 7 positively and commence flocking.Both Linux and Mac OS X are still too big of a leap for most businesses to take, even today.
Even on the server side, the Windows server versions are gaining or at least not losing so much ground anymore to Linux.
Until the Linux development world wakes up and realizes how important it is to cater to the lowest common denominator and make even server interfaces as simple to use as Windows does, Windows is still "good enough" to do the job, just like it was from the beginning.You would think everyone would realize after a quarter century of almost unimpeded success despite all suckage that Windows isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
They don't even need to engage in abusive monopolistic behavior anymore.
Unless something major completely changes the computing landscape, Windows has the momentum to keep haunting us for at least another decade or two.
Hardware support and the availability of commercial applications will still have to get much better for Linux to really challenge Windows on the desktop.
It will take another decade or longer for the Internet to evolve enough to become the main platform where most people run their applications.
Only then will people cease to care about what operating system their computer is running, and Linux will finally be a serious threat to the dominance of Windows.
But at that point, even though many people will be using Linux, most of them won't care enough to be aware of it.
The web browser will be the new operating system.The biggest threat from Microsoft for the future will be all the new idiotic proprietary web-based stuff they'll be inventing that will "work better" when running in Internet Explorer on Windows.
They've known for a long time that eventually everything is heading for the Internet.
But for now, very few individuals and businesses are simply going to abandon Windows because of the same mild suckage it has always had.
Only the people who have used computers for a decade or more have the background to really get tired enough of Windows to make the jump.
That, and the people who are new enough to computers that they haven't yet imprinted on Windows.
Everyone else just doesn't care enough or doesn't encounter enough problems with Windows to even feel the need to get away from it.
Sad, but true.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29860425</id>
	<title>Windows 7 Will beThe Death Knell For Microsoft</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256384460000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>A little background about me....<br>I've been using Windows since Windows 386 - I even played with Windows 286 for 10 minutes.  I really started using Windows all the time with 3.0 .  OK... so I've been using it since the mid to late 80's .  I'm a microsoft developer by trade<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...  started in Acess and VB and moved in to NET and SQL.</p><p>Vista , and now Windows 7, pushed me over to purchase a Macbok Pro.  I've always admired the UI on those machines but Windows have been good enough and heaven knows it made me enough money.</p><p>So I try Vista 2 years ago.  SLOW...  excruciatingly bad user interface - Am I sure?  Yes.  Am I sure that I'm sure...?  {sigh}  I tried it 3 different times - couldn't take it more than a couple weeks.  Transferring several gigs of info through the Explorer interface was a minimum of 5 times slower than in XP.  Am I sure? Yes {sigh}</p><p>So I stick with XP and maintain Vista o a VM for when I have to test with it which is NEVER because NONE of my corporate clients are using it.</p><p>So I try Windows 7 about 2 months ago.  Looks Pretty !  And it's not asking me if I'm sure it looks pretty every 2 minutes.  It looks pretty right up till the time I go into Control Panel.  Now it's not looking as nice.  WTF?  It's Control Panelzilla!  Ahhhhh!  And look how many new ways  I have of sharing things.  But you know what?  I just want to share a fracking folder.  I have a home group now too. I also have more things in my root drive than I ever wanted to see.  Ever.  Including lots of symbolic links.  Which don't seem to be able to be handling correctly in Explorer.  You haven't liven until you've seen a file path like "User Data/User/Data/User/ Data/ User data....  ad infinitum .  Frack that.  Oh<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and it's still slow.  And it crashed on mee 5 times the first week.</p><p>So I get a MAc book Pro.  A little over 900 bucks.  It's light<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... it's engineered well and the UI makes me wanna cry tears of joy.  And it is faster on 2 gigs of memory and a 2.1 processor than my idiot HP 9700 was with Vista on 4 gigs and a 2.6 processor.  MUCH faster.  And I can run XP on it beautifully though I never do.</p><p>So I'm no longer a NET programmer.  The same companies who NEVER adopted Vista (ummm...  like all of them?) will NEVER adopt Win 7 - for the very same reasons.  I think they will flock to something else.  Linux?  Maybe  Macc?  Maybe.  Personally , I think they're screwed.  Me?  I'm learning Objective C and LAMP technologies and am going to reinvent myself programaticaly speaking.  I'm through with MS.  It's been a nice long ride bit it's over.</p><p>I've been around a while.  I've seen IBM go from the major supplier of PCs and OS...  to a non-player.  Why?  Because they thought they were gods and forgot they were just a corporation.  They forgot they couldn't dictate what their clients wanted forever.</p><p>Think the paradigm can't shift?<br>Think again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A little background about me....I 've been using Windows since Windows 386 - I even played with Windows 286 for 10 minutes .
I really started using Windows all the time with 3.0 .
OK... so I 've been using it since the mid to late 80 's .
I 'm a microsoft developer by trade ... started in Acess and VB and moved in to NET and SQL.Vista , and now Windows 7 , pushed me over to purchase a Macbok Pro .
I 've always admired the UI on those machines but Windows have been good enough and heaven knows it made me enough money.So I try Vista 2 years ago .
SLOW... excruciatingly bad user interface - Am I sure ?
Yes. Am I sure that I 'm sure... ?
{ sigh } I tried it 3 different times - could n't take it more than a couple weeks .
Transferring several gigs of info through the Explorer interface was a minimum of 5 times slower than in XP .
Am I sure ?
Yes { sigh } So I stick with XP and maintain Vista o a VM for when I have to test with it which is NEVER because NONE of my corporate clients are using it.So I try Windows 7 about 2 months ago .
Looks Pretty !
And it 's not asking me if I 'm sure it looks pretty every 2 minutes .
It looks pretty right up till the time I go into Control Panel .
Now it 's not looking as nice .
WTF ? It 's Control Panelzilla !
Ahhhhh ! And look how many new ways I have of sharing things .
But you know what ?
I just want to share a fracking folder .
I have a home group now too .
I also have more things in my root drive than I ever wanted to see .
Ever. Including lots of symbolic links .
Which do n't seem to be able to be handling correctly in Explorer .
You have n't liven until you 've seen a file path like " User Data/User/Data/User/ Data/ User data.... ad infinitum .
Frack that .
Oh ... and it 's still slow .
And it crashed on mee 5 times the first week.So I get a MAc book Pro .
A little over 900 bucks .
It 's light ... it 's engineered well and the UI makes me wan na cry tears of joy .
And it is faster on 2 gigs of memory and a 2.1 processor than my idiot HP 9700 was with Vista on 4 gigs and a 2.6 processor .
MUCH faster .
And I can run XP on it beautifully though I never do.So I 'm no longer a NET programmer .
The same companies who NEVER adopted Vista ( ummm... like all of them ?
) will NEVER adopt Win 7 - for the very same reasons .
I think they will flock to something else .
Linux ? Maybe Macc ?
Maybe. Personally , I think they 're screwed .
Me ? I 'm learning Objective C and LAMP technologies and am going to reinvent myself programaticaly speaking .
I 'm through with MS. It 's been a nice long ride bit it 's over.I 've been around a while .
I 've seen IBM go from the major supplier of PCs and OS... to a non-player .
Why ? Because they thought they were gods and forgot they were just a corporation .
They forgot they could n't dictate what their clients wanted forever.Think the paradigm ca n't shift ? Think again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A little background about me....I've been using Windows since Windows 386 - I even played with Windows 286 for 10 minutes.
I really started using Windows all the time with 3.0 .
OK... so I've been using it since the mid to late 80's .
I'm a microsoft developer by trade ...  started in Acess and VB and moved in to NET and SQL.Vista , and now Windows 7, pushed me over to purchase a Macbok Pro.
I've always admired the UI on those machines but Windows have been good enough and heaven knows it made me enough money.So I try Vista 2 years ago.
SLOW...  excruciatingly bad user interface - Am I sure?
Yes.  Am I sure that I'm sure...?
{sigh}  I tried it 3 different times - couldn't take it more than a couple weeks.
Transferring several gigs of info through the Explorer interface was a minimum of 5 times slower than in XP.
Am I sure?
Yes {sigh}So I stick with XP and maintain Vista o a VM for when I have to test with it which is NEVER because NONE of my corporate clients are using it.So I try Windows 7 about 2 months ago.
Looks Pretty !
And it's not asking me if I'm sure it looks pretty every 2 minutes.
It looks pretty right up till the time I go into Control Panel.
Now it's not looking as nice.
WTF?  It's Control Panelzilla!
Ahhhhh!  And look how many new ways  I have of sharing things.
But you know what?
I just want to share a fracking folder.
I have a home group now too.
I also have more things in my root drive than I ever wanted to see.
Ever.  Including lots of symbolic links.
Which don't seem to be able to be handling correctly in Explorer.
You haven't liven until you've seen a file path like "User Data/User/Data/User/ Data/ User data....  ad infinitum .
Frack that.
Oh ... and it's still slow.
And it crashed on mee 5 times the first week.So I get a MAc book Pro.
A little over 900 bucks.
It's light ... it's engineered well and the UI makes me wanna cry tears of joy.
And it is faster on 2 gigs of memory and a 2.1 processor than my idiot HP 9700 was with Vista on 4 gigs and a 2.6 processor.
MUCH faster.
And I can run XP on it beautifully though I never do.So I'm no longer a NET programmer.
The same companies who NEVER adopted Vista (ummm...  like all of them?
) will NEVER adopt Win 7 - for the very same reasons.
I think they will flock to something else.
Linux?  Maybe  Macc?
Maybe.  Personally , I think they're screwed.
Me?  I'm learning Objective C and LAMP technologies and am going to reinvent myself programaticaly speaking.
I'm through with MS.  It's been a nice long ride bit it's over.I've been around a while.
I've seen IBM go from the major supplier of PCs and OS...  to a non-player.
Why?  Because they thought they were gods and forgot they were just a corporation.
They forgot they couldn't dictate what their clients wanted forever.Think the paradigm can't shift?Think again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858065</id>
	<title>What Cloud???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256410560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Both reviews are based of the reviewers perception of what Microsoft needed to get right, and both are crap. Nobodys opinion matters as much as mine, cause I actually have to *buy* my copy of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... whatever.</p><p>My beef with the Microsoft fanboy's review is not that he got all mushy on 7, which I will admit is not a bad OS in my experience, but his insistance that its all pointless anyway, cause the 'cloud' is coming....</p><p>I know the mainstream media has to jump on the 'next new thing' bandwagon, but this particular bit of hype is baffling for a couple of reasons....</p><p>The entire concept of 'cloud computing' is moronic. Lets throw out 30 years of computer science innovation, turn our boxes into the computing equivalent of a toaster so we can use the internets, office software, Quake, and photoshop by subscribing to a never ending service that we cant actually even license...much less 'own'.</p><p>What could possibly go wrong? Once we all have thin clients on our desks hooked into the cloud, we can get rid of all the desktop programmers and put all the software innovation concentration on those super awesome AJAX developers out there, who can 'almost' pull off web apps that have the features of desktop apps we stopped using in 1998. Hype is stupid, the cloud is marketing fog.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Both reviews are based of the reviewers perception of what Microsoft needed to get right , and both are crap .
Nobodys opinion matters as much as mine , cause I actually have to * buy * my copy of ... whatever.My beef with the Microsoft fanboy 's review is not that he got all mushy on 7 , which I will admit is not a bad OS in my experience , but his insistance that its all pointless anyway , cause the 'cloud ' is coming....I know the mainstream media has to jump on the 'next new thing ' bandwagon , but this particular bit of hype is baffling for a couple of reasons....The entire concept of 'cloud computing ' is moronic .
Lets throw out 30 years of computer science innovation , turn our boxes into the computing equivalent of a toaster so we can use the internets , office software , Quake , and photoshop by subscribing to a never ending service that we cant actually even license...much less 'own'.What could possibly go wrong ?
Once we all have thin clients on our desks hooked into the cloud , we can get rid of all the desktop programmers and put all the software innovation concentration on those super awesome AJAX developers out there , who can 'almost ' pull off web apps that have the features of desktop apps we stopped using in 1998 .
Hype is stupid , the cloud is marketing fog .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Both reviews are based of the reviewers perception of what Microsoft needed to get right, and both are crap.
Nobodys opinion matters as much as mine, cause I actually have to *buy* my copy of ... whatever.My beef with the Microsoft fanboy's review is not that he got all mushy on 7, which I will admit is not a bad OS in my experience, but his insistance that its all pointless anyway, cause the 'cloud' is coming....I know the mainstream media has to jump on the 'next new thing' bandwagon, but this particular bit of hype is baffling for a couple of reasons....The entire concept of 'cloud computing' is moronic.
Lets throw out 30 years of computer science innovation, turn our boxes into the computing equivalent of a toaster so we can use the internets, office software, Quake, and photoshop by subscribing to a never ending service that we cant actually even license...much less 'own'.What could possibly go wrong?
Once we all have thin clients on our desks hooked into the cloud, we can get rid of all the desktop programmers and put all the software innovation concentration on those super awesome AJAX developers out there, who can 'almost' pull off web apps that have the features of desktop apps we stopped using in 1998.
Hype is stupid, the cloud is marketing fog.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858145</id>
	<title>Re:A martini...</title>
	<author>Altus</author>
	<datestamp>1256411100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is a martini made by Microsoft after all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is a martini made by Microsoft after all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is a martini made by Microsoft after all.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29861881</id>
	<title>Dvorak Sliding Down Into the Tar</title>
	<author>Carcass666</author>
	<datestamp>1256400480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I dunno, after reading Dvorak's screed, I'm guessing that he is just sad that if are no junkets where "journalists" like him are invited to Vegas, receive their talking points, and then go gamble and drink afterward.  No more Comdex.  No more twenty-foot high convention center displays.  No more huge ad-revenue funded parties where vendors "give back" to the publications that so shameless promoted them.</p><p>Good riddance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I dunno , after reading Dvorak 's screed , I 'm guessing that he is just sad that if are no junkets where " journalists " like him are invited to Vegas , receive their talking points , and then go gamble and drink afterward .
No more Comdex .
No more twenty-foot high convention center displays .
No more huge ad-revenue funded parties where vendors " give back " to the publications that so shameless promoted them.Good riddance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dunno, after reading Dvorak's screed, I'm guessing that he is just sad that if are no junkets where "journalists" like him are invited to Vegas, receive their talking points, and then go gamble and drink afterward.
No more Comdex.
No more twenty-foot high convention center displays.
No more huge ad-revenue funded parties where vendors "give back" to the publications that so shameless promoted them.Good riddance.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859121</id>
	<title>Re:Are desktop OS's really dying ?</title>
	<author>Matheus</author>
	<datestamp>1256374920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I seem to recall a certain CEO a long time ago saying: &ldquo;I think there&rsquo;s a world market for about 5 computers.&rdquo;  The tech has changed (Clouds are replacing Mainframes) but some people are still thinking the same way.  There is a certain move in this direction but to say that people will not have their own "local" horsepower sitting around I believe is extrapolating a tech-craze beyond where it is actually going to end up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I seem to recall a certain CEO a long time ago saying :    I think there    s a world market for about 5 computers.    The tech has changed ( Clouds are replacing Mainframes ) but some people are still thinking the same way .
There is a certain move in this direction but to say that people will not have their own " local " horsepower sitting around I believe is extrapolating a tech-craze beyond where it is actually going to end up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I seem to recall a certain CEO a long time ago saying: “I think there’s a world market for about 5 computers.”  The tech has changed (Clouds are replacing Mainframes) but some people are still thinking the same way.
There is a certain move in this direction but to say that people will not have their own "local" horsepower sitting around I believe is extrapolating a tech-craze beyond where it is actually going to end up.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857955</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29867035</id>
	<title>New OS To-Do-List</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1256464140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think Windows 7 may be an improvement over Vista simply based Vista's failure.</p><p>For any new OS, you need a rationale for that OS. Ideally, you NEVER need a new OS. After all, any proper OS is designed with full modularity in mind... you can plug in new stuff and it just works.</p><p>There's no downside to make an "New OS" in the FOSS community.. you're always free to take some of the new and bolt it on to what you already have.</p><p>In the commercial sector, there are other forces. Sometimes they benefit the consumer, sometimes not-so-much. With Windows in particular, though, they have an obliged new OS date.. every 3 or 4 years, the OEMs want a new OS to push hardware sales, simply because there is a class of consumer that thinks (or can be made to think) they need a new OS, but they're too timid to try installing said new OS on their existing PC. Plus, they bought an entry-level XP PC five years ago for $500, the Windows upgrade is over $100, but they can get a much better entry level PC today for $350.</p><p>Microsoft's Prime Directive in recent times, if not always, has been "Ensure Our Domination". So, when you look at a list of ideas for the next OS, it runs something like this:</p><p>1. Get something out the door, now, to make Dell, HP, et al happy.<br>2. Compatible enough with last version, so they have no excuse to jump platform, thus keeping us in power.<br>3. Change driver model, to keep those hardware companies doing what we tell them, thus keeping us in power.<br>4. Any other new technologies that keep us in power.. what about that Web thing?<br>5. Make friends with Hollywood, via DRM, to keep us in power<br>6. Eye candy and other bright shiny objects to fool consumers into upgrades<br>7. Gaming and video enhancements, to make stuff play well on Windows, to keep us in power<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....<br>100. Wasn't there a bug list somewhere.</p><p>The proper list, more or less, would be more like this:</p><p>1. Fix all bugs that require major architectural changes in order to fix correctly (all other bugs were of course fixed with free updates).<br>2. Cool new features to make users lives easier.<br>3. Cool new features to make programmer's lives easier.<br>4. Bug fixes for 2,3.. before release.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>The problem with Microsoft is that, basically, new releases have never been about users. Why do I want to update? Well, I don't... ever. Traditionally, MS has found a way to force the issues... new apps won't run in the old OS, we know of horrible bugs we'll never fix, no new device drivers for that new thing that's out, we aren't supporting that new bus, whatever. The attention to users has largely been "find a bright shiny object for them"... we need them, but they're stupid, so we can trick them into upgrades.</p><p>That worked, for quite some time. It failed with Vista... perhaps because of the bugs in Vista, but I do recall a bug list for XP at some 20,000+ known bugs. It got better.</p><p>It seems like, certainly to the functional failure of Vista. If the new OS doesn't overtake the old one in installed base, that's a fairly in MS's book. On many levels.. there's a snowball effect for a well received new OS.. 3rd party apps starting moving to only run in the new OS, bringing more people into it, etc. The opposite happened with Vista.. XP was still the applications model, not Vista. The only major impact of Vista was that MS finally released a fully supported 64-bit OS (hardware companies didn't have to do 64-bit XP drivers, they did have to do 64-bit Vista drivers).</p><p>Certainly, consumer oriented FOSS releases, and even MacOS to an extent, are more likely to follow that second list... FOSS because the users are the authors, to a large extent. MacOS because, being proprietary, Apple doesn't have the same kind of OS to PC relationship... everyone upgrades their MacOS install, new MacOS upgrades are cheap, and they don't couple the OS release to selling new hardware. Certainly they do stuff that's designed to help Apple, but they're also adding in "cool" new features. Of course, Mac people are kind of retro, thinking OSs are cool enough anymore to even have features that interesting. Usually no, even in MacOS. The market's mature.. your best result is not alienating your customer base.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think Windows 7 may be an improvement over Vista simply based Vista 's failure.For any new OS , you need a rationale for that OS .
Ideally , you NEVER need a new OS .
After all , any proper OS is designed with full modularity in mind... you can plug in new stuff and it just works.There 's no downside to make an " New OS " in the FOSS community.. you 're always free to take some of the new and bolt it on to what you already have.In the commercial sector , there are other forces .
Sometimes they benefit the consumer , sometimes not-so-much .
With Windows in particular , though , they have an obliged new OS date.. every 3 or 4 years , the OEMs want a new OS to push hardware sales , simply because there is a class of consumer that thinks ( or can be made to think ) they need a new OS , but they 're too timid to try installing said new OS on their existing PC .
Plus , they bought an entry-level XP PC five years ago for $ 500 , the Windows upgrade is over $ 100 , but they can get a much better entry level PC today for $ 350.Microsoft 's Prime Directive in recent times , if not always , has been " Ensure Our Domination " .
So , when you look at a list of ideas for the next OS , it runs something like this : 1 .
Get something out the door , now , to make Dell , HP , et al happy.2 .
Compatible enough with last version , so they have no excuse to jump platform , thus keeping us in power.3 .
Change driver model , to keep those hardware companies doing what we tell them , thus keeping us in power.4 .
Any other new technologies that keep us in power.. what about that Web thing ? 5 .
Make friends with Hollywood , via DRM , to keep us in power6 .
Eye candy and other bright shiny objects to fool consumers into upgrades7 .
Gaming and video enhancements , to make stuff play well on Windows , to keep us in power ....100 .
Was n't there a bug list somewhere.The proper list , more or less , would be more like this : 1 .
Fix all bugs that require major architectural changes in order to fix correctly ( all other bugs were of course fixed with free updates ) .2 .
Cool new features to make users lives easier.3 .
Cool new features to make programmer 's lives easier.4 .
Bug fixes for 2,3.. before release .
...The problem with Microsoft is that , basically , new releases have never been about users .
Why do I want to update ?
Well , I do n't... ever. Traditionally , MS has found a way to force the issues... new apps wo n't run in the old OS , we know of horrible bugs we 'll never fix , no new device drivers for that new thing that 's out , we are n't supporting that new bus , whatever .
The attention to users has largely been " find a bright shiny object for them " ... we need them , but they 're stupid , so we can trick them into upgrades.That worked , for quite some time .
It failed with Vista... perhaps because of the bugs in Vista , but I do recall a bug list for XP at some 20,000 + known bugs .
It got better.It seems like , certainly to the functional failure of Vista .
If the new OS does n't overtake the old one in installed base , that 's a fairly in MS 's book .
On many levels.. there 's a snowball effect for a well received new OS.. 3rd party apps starting moving to only run in the new OS , bringing more people into it , etc .
The opposite happened with Vista.. XP was still the applications model , not Vista .
The only major impact of Vista was that MS finally released a fully supported 64-bit OS ( hardware companies did n't have to do 64-bit XP drivers , they did have to do 64-bit Vista drivers ) .Certainly , consumer oriented FOSS releases , and even MacOS to an extent , are more likely to follow that second list... FOSS because the users are the authors , to a large extent .
MacOS because , being proprietary , Apple does n't have the same kind of OS to PC relationship... everyone upgrades their MacOS install , new MacOS upgrades are cheap , and they do n't couple the OS release to selling new hardware .
Certainly they do stuff that 's designed to help Apple , but they 're also adding in " cool " new features .
Of course , Mac people are kind of retro , thinking OSs are cool enough anymore to even have features that interesting .
Usually no , even in MacOS .
The market 's mature.. your best result is not alienating your customer base .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think Windows 7 may be an improvement over Vista simply based Vista's failure.For any new OS, you need a rationale for that OS.
Ideally, you NEVER need a new OS.
After all, any proper OS is designed with full modularity in mind... you can plug in new stuff and it just works.There's no downside to make an "New OS" in the FOSS community.. you're always free to take some of the new and bolt it on to what you already have.In the commercial sector, there are other forces.
Sometimes they benefit the consumer, sometimes not-so-much.
With Windows in particular, though, they have an obliged new OS date.. every 3 or 4 years, the OEMs want a new OS to push hardware sales, simply because there is a class of consumer that thinks (or can be made to think) they need a new OS, but they're too timid to try installing said new OS on their existing PC.
Plus, they bought an entry-level XP PC five years ago for $500, the Windows upgrade is over $100, but they can get a much better entry level PC today for $350.Microsoft's Prime Directive in recent times, if not always, has been "Ensure Our Domination".
So, when you look at a list of ideas for the next OS, it runs something like this:1.
Get something out the door, now, to make Dell, HP, et al happy.2.
Compatible enough with last version, so they have no excuse to jump platform, thus keeping us in power.3.
Change driver model, to keep those hardware companies doing what we tell them, thus keeping us in power.4.
Any other new technologies that keep us in power.. what about that Web thing?5.
Make friends with Hollywood, via DRM, to keep us in power6.
Eye candy and other bright shiny objects to fool consumers into upgrades7.
Gaming and video enhancements, to make stuff play well on Windows, to keep us in power ....100.
Wasn't there a bug list somewhere.The proper list, more or less, would be more like this:1.
Fix all bugs that require major architectural changes in order to fix correctly (all other bugs were of course fixed with free updates).2.
Cool new features to make users lives easier.3.
Cool new features to make programmer's lives easier.4.
Bug fixes for 2,3.. before release.
...The problem with Microsoft is that, basically, new releases have never been about users.
Why do I want to update?
Well, I don't... ever. Traditionally, MS has found a way to force the issues... new apps won't run in the old OS, we know of horrible bugs we'll never fix, no new device drivers for that new thing that's out, we aren't supporting that new bus, whatever.
The attention to users has largely been "find a bright shiny object for them"... we need them, but they're stupid, so we can trick them into upgrades.That worked, for quite some time.
It failed with Vista... perhaps because of the bugs in Vista, but I do recall a bug list for XP at some 20,000+ known bugs.
It got better.It seems like, certainly to the functional failure of Vista.
If the new OS doesn't overtake the old one in installed base, that's a fairly in MS's book.
On many levels.. there's a snowball effect for a well received new OS.. 3rd party apps starting moving to only run in the new OS, bringing more people into it, etc.
The opposite happened with Vista.. XP was still the applications model, not Vista.
The only major impact of Vista was that MS finally released a fully supported 64-bit OS (hardware companies didn't have to do 64-bit XP drivers, they did have to do 64-bit Vista drivers).Certainly, consumer oriented FOSS releases, and even MacOS to an extent, are more likely to follow that second list... FOSS because the users are the authors, to a large extent.
MacOS because, being proprietary, Apple doesn't have the same kind of OS to PC relationship... everyone upgrades their MacOS install, new MacOS upgrades are cheap, and they don't couple the OS release to selling new hardware.
Certainly they do stuff that's designed to help Apple, but they're also adding in "cool" new features.
Of course, Mac people are kind of retro, thinking OSs are cool enough anymore to even have features that interesting.
Usually no, even in MacOS.
The market's mature.. your best result is not alienating your customer base.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29860001</id>
	<title>I like it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256381040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been running the RC for a few months, I like it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been running the RC for a few months , I like it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been running the RC for a few months, I like it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29873251</id>
	<title>Re:It's more important MS had another release</title>
	<author>Cro Magnon</author>
	<datestamp>1256575920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Last weekend, I installed Win 7 on my Mac via VMware Fusion.  I also played around with Ubuntu.  I enjoyed Ubuntu a lot more than W7.  W7 is great compared to Vista.  It's not bad compared to XP.  But it's not Ubuntu, and brown notwithstanding, Ubuntu is not "shit".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Last weekend , I installed Win 7 on my Mac via VMware Fusion .
I also played around with Ubuntu .
I enjoyed Ubuntu a lot more than W7 .
W7 is great compared to Vista .
It 's not bad compared to XP .
But it 's not Ubuntu , and brown notwithstanding , Ubuntu is not " shit " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last weekend, I installed Win 7 on my Mac via VMware Fusion.
I also played around with Ubuntu.
I enjoyed Ubuntu a lot more than W7.
W7 is great compared to Vista.
It's not bad compared to XP.
But it's not Ubuntu, and brown notwithstanding, Ubuntu is not "shit".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29863489</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29862451</id>
	<title>Lowered my notebook temperature, and faster</title>
	<author>MasaMuneCyrus</author>
	<datestamp>1256408820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd like to chime in and say it lowered my ASUS G1S notebook's standard operating temperature up to 30-40 degrees celsius. It lowered my sister's HP notebook's standard operating temperature by 20 degrees. Both are as reported by CPUID's HWMonitor</p><p>Additionally, file operations function, again (wtf, Vista? You can't even copy correctly?), so there's no more random freezing when you're trying to copy or delete a bunch of files, or even one file, for that matter.</p><p>Lastly, read/write speeds to my external HDD have doubled. Consistently doubled.</p><p>On the battery side, Vista SP1 and above actually had remarkably good battery life, and Windows 7 does the same.</p><p>I'm very happy with Windows 7. May Windows Vista rot forever in hell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to chime in and say it lowered my ASUS G1S notebook 's standard operating temperature up to 30-40 degrees celsius .
It lowered my sister 's HP notebook 's standard operating temperature by 20 degrees .
Both are as reported by CPUID 's HWMonitorAdditionally , file operations function , again ( wtf , Vista ?
You ca n't even copy correctly ?
) , so there 's no more random freezing when you 're trying to copy or delete a bunch of files , or even one file , for that matter.Lastly , read/write speeds to my external HDD have doubled .
Consistently doubled.On the battery side , Vista SP1 and above actually had remarkably good battery life , and Windows 7 does the same.I 'm very happy with Windows 7 .
May Windows Vista rot forever in hell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to chime in and say it lowered my ASUS G1S notebook's standard operating temperature up to 30-40 degrees celsius.
It lowered my sister's HP notebook's standard operating temperature by 20 degrees.
Both are as reported by CPUID's HWMonitorAdditionally, file operations function, again (wtf, Vista?
You can't even copy correctly?
), so there's no more random freezing when you're trying to copy or delete a bunch of files, or even one file, for that matter.Lastly, read/write speeds to my external HDD have doubled.
Consistently doubled.On the battery side, Vista SP1 and above actually had remarkably good battery life, and Windows 7 does the same.I'm very happy with Windows 7.
May Windows Vista rot forever in hell.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29866753</id>
	<title>Re:Are desktop OS's really dying ?</title>
	<author>16K Ram Pack</author>
	<datestamp>1256461260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's some truth in it. Consider that a decade or so ago, a lot of people I know who were on the road had copies of Autoroute for their PCs. Now, everyone uses Google Maps. No-one buys Encarta, they have Wikipedia. And there are flash-based photo editing apps now.</p><p>However, the one thing that none of these "thin client" people like to face is that in a lot of places, the internet just doesn't work that well. I go and see a client on the train, and for 40 miles of that journey, I get no signal on my 3G card. So no, I'm not going to have all my email stored in Gmail. I want it on my desktop so I can read it when I want it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's some truth in it .
Consider that a decade or so ago , a lot of people I know who were on the road had copies of Autoroute for their PCs .
Now , everyone uses Google Maps .
No-one buys Encarta , they have Wikipedia .
And there are flash-based photo editing apps now.However , the one thing that none of these " thin client " people like to face is that in a lot of places , the internet just does n't work that well .
I go and see a client on the train , and for 40 miles of that journey , I get no signal on my 3G card .
So no , I 'm not going to have all my email stored in Gmail .
I want it on my desktop so I can read it when I want it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's some truth in it.
Consider that a decade or so ago, a lot of people I know who were on the road had copies of Autoroute for their PCs.
Now, everyone uses Google Maps.
No-one buys Encarta, they have Wikipedia.
And there are flash-based photo editing apps now.However, the one thing that none of these "thin client" people like to face is that in a lot of places, the internet just doesn't work that well.
I go and see a client on the train, and for 40 miles of that journey, I get no signal on my 3G card.
So no, I'm not going to have all my email stored in Gmail.
I want it on my desktop so I can read it when I want it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858889</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone REALLY take Dvorak seriously?</title>
	<author>ThrowAwaySociety</author>
	<datestamp>1256416440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The only thing I sort of remember is Dvorak claiming he had the scoop on Apple switching to Intel....</p></div><p>That would be when he predicted Apple would adopt <a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,933453,00.asp" title="pcmag.com">Intel Itanium</a> [pcmag.com], naturally. And yes, this was well after Itanium had become "Itanic."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only thing I sort of remember is Dvorak claiming he had the scoop on Apple switching to Intel....That would be when he predicted Apple would adopt Intel Itanium [ pcmag.com ] , naturally .
And yes , this was well after Itanium had become " Itanic .
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<sentencetext>The only thing I sort of remember is Dvorak claiming he had the scoop on Apple switching to Intel....That would be when he predicted Apple would adopt Intel Itanium [pcmag.com], naturally.
And yes, this was well after Itanium had become "Itanic.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858231</id>
	<title>Show me a bullet list</title>
	<author>camg188</author>
	<datestamp>1256411520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd like to see a bullet list of the features in Win7 versus Vista and XP.  For the typical home user, I don't see big differences in functionality between the different Windows versions from Win2K forward.  <br>The only reason I upgraded from Win2K to XP was for remote desktop functionality that I needed for work.  If the biggest differences are widgets on the desktop, fancy picture viewers, etc., then it's not worth the $100+ to buy it for my current systems.  I'd take it pre-installed on a new system, but if I build my own system I'd probably use the XP that I already have.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to see a bullet list of the features in Win7 versus Vista and XP .
For the typical home user , I do n't see big differences in functionality between the different Windows versions from Win2K forward .
The only reason I upgraded from Win2K to XP was for remote desktop functionality that I needed for work .
If the biggest differences are widgets on the desktop , fancy picture viewers , etc. , then it 's not worth the $ 100 + to buy it for my current systems .
I 'd take it pre-installed on a new system , but if I build my own system I 'd probably use the XP that I already have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to see a bullet list of the features in Win7 versus Vista and XP.
For the typical home user, I don't see big differences in functionality between the different Windows versions from Win2K forward.
The only reason I upgraded from Win2K to XP was for remote desktop functionality that I needed for work.
If the biggest differences are widgets on the desktop, fancy picture viewers, etc., then it's not worth the $100+ to buy it for my current systems.
I'd take it pre-installed on a new system, but if I build my own system I'd probably use the XP that I already have.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29864413</id>
	<title>Windows 7 should be a patch to Win Vista</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256484240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think Windows 7 should be a patch to Windows Vista.</p><p>Or better, M$ should recall Windows Vista and then give Windows 7 for free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think Windows 7 should be a patch to Windows Vista.Or better , M $ should recall Windows Vista and then give Windows 7 for free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think Windows 7 should be a patch to Windows Vista.Or better, M$ should recall Windows Vista and then give Windows 7 for free.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29864743</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone REALLY take Dvorak seriously?</title>
	<author>mattand08</author>
	<datestamp>1256487780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As internic points out below, TWIT is a panel discussion. AFAIK, there's no check box to delete a panelist when you download the podcast.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As internic points out below , TWIT is a panel discussion .
AFAIK , there 's no check box to delete a panelist when you download the podcast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As internic points out below, TWIT is a panel discussion.
AFAIK, there's no check box to delete a panelist when you download the podcast.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29900823</id>
	<title>Re:So what?</title>
	<author>Spaseboy</author>
	<datestamp>1256759040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Windows 7 did not have drivers for a common Texas Instrument  FlashMedia drive, does not have a basic Synaptics touchpad (or just a touchpad HID) driver so I could turn off tapping, did not install a driver form my Nvidia 8400M GT and when I put my VAIO to sleep the brightness controls no longer work.</p><p>This is an almost 2 year old laptop without any exotic hardware.  I am thankful that Vista drivers work but Windows 7 is hardly the new Mac OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows 7 did not have drivers for a common Texas Instrument FlashMedia drive , does not have a basic Synaptics touchpad ( or just a touchpad HID ) driver so I could turn off tapping , did not install a driver form my Nvidia 8400M GT and when I put my VAIO to sleep the brightness controls no longer work.This is an almost 2 year old laptop without any exotic hardware .
I am thankful that Vista drivers work but Windows 7 is hardly the new Mac OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows 7 did not have drivers for a common Texas Instrument  FlashMedia drive, does not have a basic Synaptics touchpad (or just a touchpad HID) driver so I could turn off tapping, did not install a driver form my Nvidia 8400M GT and when I put my VAIO to sleep the brightness controls no longer work.This is an almost 2 year old laptop without any exotic hardware.
I am thankful that Vista drivers work but Windows 7 is hardly the new Mac OS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29861743</id>
	<title>Marketing</title>
	<author>angelbunny</author>
	<datestamp>1256399160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Win2k has go to be my favorite MS OS of all time. It is stable, runs everything flawlessly for the most part, is low on system resources for the most part, and basically it just works. What is there to hate?</p><p>So why did the mass market go with XP then? My opinion matters very little it seems especially when the market does not agree with me.</p><p>I'm sure everyone reading this knows that for the most part XP is nothing but a gui overhal from win2k. There is little to no difference except XP consumes much more ram than 2k because of the gui.</p><p>So here I am conflicted again for the exact same reason when it comes to Vista and 7. 7 is like the 2k and Vista is like the XP. If your system matches spec then both will benchmark nearly identical in every way.</p><p>So why are people so hyped up about 7? Do all consumers seem to care about is the GUI? It drives me nuts! I can understand that if you have 2gigs of ram or less 7 will perform better but other than that is there really that much of a difference? How can the mass market hate one thing while loving another yet they are both one in the same just wearing a different skin.</p><p>This whole situation makes me want to yell hypocrite for anyone who hates vista but loves 7. The catch is I love 7 and hate vista myself...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Win2k has go to be my favorite MS OS of all time .
It is stable , runs everything flawlessly for the most part , is low on system resources for the most part , and basically it just works .
What is there to hate ? So why did the mass market go with XP then ?
My opinion matters very little it seems especially when the market does not agree with me.I 'm sure everyone reading this knows that for the most part XP is nothing but a gui overhal from win2k .
There is little to no difference except XP consumes much more ram than 2k because of the gui.So here I am conflicted again for the exact same reason when it comes to Vista and 7 .
7 is like the 2k and Vista is like the XP .
If your system matches spec then both will benchmark nearly identical in every way.So why are people so hyped up about 7 ?
Do all consumers seem to care about is the GUI ?
It drives me nuts !
I can understand that if you have 2gigs of ram or less 7 will perform better but other than that is there really that much of a difference ?
How can the mass market hate one thing while loving another yet they are both one in the same just wearing a different skin.This whole situation makes me want to yell hypocrite for anyone who hates vista but loves 7 .
The catch is I love 7 and hate vista myself.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Win2k has go to be my favorite MS OS of all time.
It is stable, runs everything flawlessly for the most part, is low on system resources for the most part, and basically it just works.
What is there to hate?So why did the mass market go with XP then?
My opinion matters very little it seems especially when the market does not agree with me.I'm sure everyone reading this knows that for the most part XP is nothing but a gui overhal from win2k.
There is little to no difference except XP consumes much more ram than 2k because of the gui.So here I am conflicted again for the exact same reason when it comes to Vista and 7.
7 is like the 2k and Vista is like the XP.
If your system matches spec then both will benchmark nearly identical in every way.So why are people so hyped up about 7?
Do all consumers seem to care about is the GUI?
It drives me nuts!
I can understand that if you have 2gigs of ram or less 7 will perform better but other than that is there really that much of a difference?
How can the mass market hate one thing while loving another yet they are both one in the same just wearing a different skin.This whole situation makes me want to yell hypocrite for anyone who hates vista but loves 7.
The catch is I love 7 and hate vista myself...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857905</id>
	<title>Good and bad...</title>
	<author>SerpentMage</author>
	<datestamp>1256409600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have installed it on three machines:</p><p>The good is that desktops work rather well.</p><p>The bad is that notebooks are rather problematic. I have an HP tablet that when the screen is flipped causes the machine to stop dead in its tracks.</p><p>The other problem I had was that upgrading an XP to Windows 7 machine worked ONCE I completely removed all of the partitions. Windows 7 needs a system partition that is blocked by most OEM's backup and restore partition. It frustrated me for five hours, and the messages from Windows 7 were crap.</p><p>Overall, Windows 7 is acceptable. Definitely needed when using Vista, but Windows 7 no work of wonder...</p><p>Want work of wonder... Ubuntu Netbook Remix. Now that has me impressed. I run Windows machines, but on my netbook Ubuntu Netbook Remix runs perfectly and the UI is brilliant. Much better than the Windows 7 stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have installed it on three machines : The good is that desktops work rather well.The bad is that notebooks are rather problematic .
I have an HP tablet that when the screen is flipped causes the machine to stop dead in its tracks.The other problem I had was that upgrading an XP to Windows 7 machine worked ONCE I completely removed all of the partitions .
Windows 7 needs a system partition that is blocked by most OEM 's backup and restore partition .
It frustrated me for five hours , and the messages from Windows 7 were crap.Overall , Windows 7 is acceptable .
Definitely needed when using Vista , but Windows 7 no work of wonder...Want work of wonder... Ubuntu Netbook Remix .
Now that has me impressed .
I run Windows machines , but on my netbook Ubuntu Netbook Remix runs perfectly and the UI is brilliant .
Much better than the Windows 7 stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have installed it on three machines:The good is that desktops work rather well.The bad is that notebooks are rather problematic.
I have an HP tablet that when the screen is flipped causes the machine to stop dead in its tracks.The other problem I had was that upgrading an XP to Windows 7 machine worked ONCE I completely removed all of the partitions.
Windows 7 needs a system partition that is blocked by most OEM's backup and restore partition.
It frustrated me for five hours, and the messages from Windows 7 were crap.Overall, Windows 7 is acceptable.
Definitely needed when using Vista, but Windows 7 no work of wonder...Want work of wonder... Ubuntu Netbook Remix.
Now that has me impressed.
I run Windows machines, but on my netbook Ubuntu Netbook Remix runs perfectly and the UI is brilliant.
Much better than the Windows 7 stuff.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29862049</id>
	<title>Re:Good and bad...</title>
	<author>Hamsterdan</author>
	<datestamp>1256402280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Windows 7 needs a system partition that is blocked by most OEM's backup and restore partition</p></div><p>??? I'm able to quad-boot my 900HA (5 if I count Backtrack in the SD slot). The XP on it is from ASUS' own recovery DVD.</p><p>-XP -Primary<br>-7   -Primary<br>-Snow Kitty -Primary, formatted as MBR not GUID<br>-eeeBuntu (think it's a Primary too)</p><p>and of course my Data partition</p><p>I removed the EFI and recovery partition, not for space, but because I did'nt need them. and that was *after* installing Win 7.</p><p>So, Win 7 *can* be installed and work even with the manufacturer's recovery partitions.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Windows 7 needs a system partition that is blocked by most OEM 's backup and restore partition ? ? ?
I 'm able to quad-boot my 900HA ( 5 if I count Backtrack in the SD slot ) .
The XP on it is from ASUS ' own recovery DVD.-XP -Primary-7 -Primary-Snow Kitty -Primary , formatted as MBR not GUID-eeeBuntu ( think it 's a Primary too ) and of course my Data partitionI removed the EFI and recovery partition , not for space , but because I did'nt need them .
and that was * after * installing Win 7.So , Win 7 * can * be installed and work even with the manufacturer 's recovery partitions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows 7 needs a system partition that is blocked by most OEM's backup and restore partition???
I'm able to quad-boot my 900HA (5 if I count Backtrack in the SD slot).
The XP on it is from ASUS' own recovery DVD.-XP -Primary-7   -Primary-Snow Kitty -Primary, formatted as MBR not GUID-eeeBuntu (think it's a Primary too)and of course my Data partitionI removed the EFI and recovery partition, not for space, but because I did'nt need them.
and that was *after* installing Win 7.So, Win 7 *can* be installed and work even with the manufacturer's recovery partitions.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859813</id>
	<title>I followed one of the links in the summary above..</title>
	<author>ardle</author>
	<datestamp>1256379660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...and read: "<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/cschlaeger/JapanLinuxSymposium#5395358413061926434" title="google.com">Microsoft tried to torpedo the success of the Japan Linux Symposium by launching their Windows 7 product that same day</a> [google.com]".
<br>I hope that was as much of a joke as Linus posing for a photo there.
<br>Even so, there are too many tongues in too many cheeks - I'm a bit worried about catching something...</htmltext>
<tokenext>...and read : " Microsoft tried to torpedo the success of the Japan Linux Symposium by launching their Windows 7 product that same day [ google.com ] " .
I hope that was as much of a joke as Linus posing for a photo there .
Even so , there are too many tongues in too many cheeks - I 'm a bit worried about catching something.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and read: "Microsoft tried to torpedo the success of the Japan Linux Symposium by launching their Windows 7 product that same day [google.com]".
I hope that was as much of a joke as Linus posing for a photo there.
Even so, there are too many tongues in too many cheeks - I'm a bit worried about catching something...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857929</id>
	<title>Martini?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256409720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Vodka?  In a Martinia?  Whoever this John Dvorak character is he reveals himself to be unsophisticated and boorish.  Who else would turn the martini from a subtle melding of flavours into a delivery device for yet even more of the high-octane, low-flavour swill they call Vodka?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Vodka ?
In a Martinia ?
Whoever this John Dvorak character is he reveals himself to be unsophisticated and boorish .
Who else would turn the martini from a subtle melding of flavours into a delivery device for yet even more of the high-octane , low-flavour swill they call Vodka ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vodka?
In a Martinia?
Whoever this John Dvorak character is he reveals himself to be unsophisticated and boorish.
Who else would turn the martini from a subtle melding of flavours into a delivery device for yet even more of the high-octane, low-flavour swill they call Vodka?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859507</id>
	<title>Re:What Cloud???</title>
	<author>foxylad</author>
	<datestamp>1256377800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Cloud computing" is only moronic in the sense that it caters for morons. It (delivering applications over a network) has one big win - you don't need a sysadmin. Or rather many people share a sysadmin's services without even knowing it.</p><p>Take webmail. I advise all my friends and customers to switch to webmail, because if their disk crashes, I'd much rather be saying "Here, use this PC and there's your mail" than "I told you you should backup your mail - nothing I can do now". We're all sysadmins at heart here on Slashdot, and I think that's why this argument gets so little traction here. But among the great unwashed, it's a win - enough to beat the crappy UI.</p><p>But the BIG win is the arrival of mobile devices. If we can't educate people advanced enough to own a PC to back it up, what hope do we have that technically illiterate mobile users will manage their mobile properly? I'm picking that in ten years time even us power users will be using a small pocket device for all our computing needs - when we need to, it'll interface with a big screen and keyboard. And despite the Danger/Microsoft debacle, we'll all back them up on the net.</p><p>So to bring this post back on topic, the reason that Windows 7 is creating less excitement is that it's far less relevant than it was. The real action is in mobile operating systems, and Microsoft have dropped the ball here too - Iphone has eaten most of their lunch to date, and Android will eat all of it next year.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Cloud computing " is only moronic in the sense that it caters for morons .
It ( delivering applications over a network ) has one big win - you do n't need a sysadmin .
Or rather many people share a sysadmin 's services without even knowing it.Take webmail .
I advise all my friends and customers to switch to webmail , because if their disk crashes , I 'd much rather be saying " Here , use this PC and there 's your mail " than " I told you you should backup your mail - nothing I can do now " .
We 're all sysadmins at heart here on Slashdot , and I think that 's why this argument gets so little traction here .
But among the great unwashed , it 's a win - enough to beat the crappy UI.But the BIG win is the arrival of mobile devices .
If we ca n't educate people advanced enough to own a PC to back it up , what hope do we have that technically illiterate mobile users will manage their mobile properly ?
I 'm picking that in ten years time even us power users will be using a small pocket device for all our computing needs - when we need to , it 'll interface with a big screen and keyboard .
And despite the Danger/Microsoft debacle , we 'll all back them up on the net.So to bring this post back on topic , the reason that Windows 7 is creating less excitement is that it 's far less relevant than it was .
The real action is in mobile operating systems , and Microsoft have dropped the ball here too - Iphone has eaten most of their lunch to date , and Android will eat all of it next year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Cloud computing" is only moronic in the sense that it caters for morons.
It (delivering applications over a network) has one big win - you don't need a sysadmin.
Or rather many people share a sysadmin's services without even knowing it.Take webmail.
I advise all my friends and customers to switch to webmail, because if their disk crashes, I'd much rather be saying "Here, use this PC and there's your mail" than "I told you you should backup your mail - nothing I can do now".
We're all sysadmins at heart here on Slashdot, and I think that's why this argument gets so little traction here.
But among the great unwashed, it's a win - enough to beat the crappy UI.But the BIG win is the arrival of mobile devices.
If we can't educate people advanced enough to own a PC to back it up, what hope do we have that technically illiterate mobile users will manage their mobile properly?
I'm picking that in ten years time even us power users will be using a small pocket device for all our computing needs - when we need to, it'll interface with a big screen and keyboard.
And despite the Danger/Microsoft debacle, we'll all back them up on the net.So to bring this post back on topic, the reason that Windows 7 is creating less excitement is that it's far less relevant than it was.
The real action is in mobile operating systems, and Microsoft have dropped the ball here too - Iphone has eaten most of their lunch to date, and Android will eat all of it next year.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859359</id>
	<title>Re:It's more important MS had another release</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256376720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dream on. You might not have noticed it but in contrast to Linux Microsoft keeps its backwards compatibility. And even if it doesn't directly in the OS itself it gives you workarounds to handle it (the VM stuff). Also the new APIs are here to stay, unlike in the Linux world they won't get dropped (or rendered disfunctional) by a mere whim once they are widely used. There is simply no gain in using Linux, not now and not in the foreseeable future.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dream on .
You might not have noticed it but in contrast to Linux Microsoft keeps its backwards compatibility .
And even if it does n't directly in the OS itself it gives you workarounds to handle it ( the VM stuff ) .
Also the new APIs are here to stay , unlike in the Linux world they wo n't get dropped ( or rendered disfunctional ) by a mere whim once they are widely used .
There is simply no gain in using Linux , not now and not in the foreseeable future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dream on.
You might not have noticed it but in contrast to Linux Microsoft keeps its backwards compatibility.
And even if it doesn't directly in the OS itself it gives you workarounds to handle it (the VM stuff).
Also the new APIs are here to stay, unlike in the Linux world they won't get dropped (or rendered disfunctional) by a mere whim once they are widely used.
There is simply no gain in using Linux, not now and not in the foreseeable future.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29870605</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 Will beThe Death Knell For Microsoft</title>
	<author>garote</author>
	<datestamp>1256557080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Welcome to the fold!  Glad to see another LAMP dev who appreciates OS X!</p><p>I know cheerful tips-of-the-hat are not customary around here.  Slashdot's mod system makes them "unprofitable", so nobody makes the effort.  But I'm bucking the trend.  Hah!  I do, though, have a question for you, something that's been on my mind.</p><p>I too grew up from Windows 3.1 all the way through XP.  Since I moved to OS X around 2002, my attention shifted from Windows to OS X.  I've not been paying attention to Vista, or to Windows 7.</p><p>The last seven years of using OS X have seemed to me like a natural progression of OS software, because as OS X bootstrapped itself up into feature completeness, it added most of the things I thought were missing from XP.</p><p>My question is this:  Why is Windows Vista/7 as bad as you describe?  To put the question broader, what HAPPENED to Microsoft in the last ten years that made them so systematically, repeatedly bad at OS design?  Where is their usable window manager?  Where is their efficient built-in search and backup mechanism?  Why is their control panel an absolute nightmare?  After TEN YEARS?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to the fold !
Glad to see another LAMP dev who appreciates OS X ! I know cheerful tips-of-the-hat are not customary around here .
Slashdot 's mod system makes them " unprofitable " , so nobody makes the effort .
But I 'm bucking the trend .
Hah ! I do , though , have a question for you , something that 's been on my mind.I too grew up from Windows 3.1 all the way through XP .
Since I moved to OS X around 2002 , my attention shifted from Windows to OS X. I 've not been paying attention to Vista , or to Windows 7.The last seven years of using OS X have seemed to me like a natural progression of OS software , because as OS X bootstrapped itself up into feature completeness , it added most of the things I thought were missing from XP.My question is this : Why is Windows Vista/7 as bad as you describe ?
To put the question broader , what HAPPENED to Microsoft in the last ten years that made them so systematically , repeatedly bad at OS design ?
Where is their usable window manager ?
Where is their efficient built-in search and backup mechanism ?
Why is their control panel an absolute nightmare ?
After TEN YEARS ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to the fold!
Glad to see another LAMP dev who appreciates OS X!I know cheerful tips-of-the-hat are not customary around here.
Slashdot's mod system makes them "unprofitable", so nobody makes the effort.
But I'm bucking the trend.
Hah!  I do, though, have a question for you, something that's been on my mind.I too grew up from Windows 3.1 all the way through XP.
Since I moved to OS X around 2002, my attention shifted from Windows to OS X.  I've not been paying attention to Vista, or to Windows 7.The last seven years of using OS X have seemed to me like a natural progression of OS software, because as OS X bootstrapped itself up into feature completeness, it added most of the things I thought were missing from XP.My question is this:  Why is Windows Vista/7 as bad as you describe?
To put the question broader, what HAPPENED to Microsoft in the last ten years that made them so systematically, repeatedly bad at OS design?
Where is their usable window manager?
Where is their efficient built-in search and backup mechanism?
Why is their control panel an absolute nightmare?
After TEN YEARS?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29861203</id>
	<title>Re:It's the best version of Windows I've used so f</title>
	<author>oogoliegoogolie</author>
	<datestamp>1256392680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't every new windows version the 'best version' of windows we've used so far?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't every new windows version the 'best version ' of windows we 've used so far ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't every new windows version the 'best version' of windows we've used so far?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857987</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859091</id>
	<title>Re:A martini...</title>
	<author>imsabbel</author>
	<datestamp>1256417940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the guy who complained about that "idle process stealing 97\% of his cpu power".<br>Do you expect he knows what he is talking about?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the guy who complained about that " idle process stealing 97 \ % of his cpu power " .Do you expect he knows what he is talking about ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the guy who complained about that "idle process stealing 97\% of his cpu power".Do you expect he knows what he is talking about?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29866095</id>
	<title>Re:Are desktop OS's really dying ?</title>
	<author>SL Baur</author>
	<datestamp>1256499180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Does this remark seem strange to anyone else ? I, honestly, am not seeing this trend at all, but I've seen it talked about.</p></div><p>I am seeing it.  The trend began in Asia almost a decade ago.  The US is just starting to catch up.</p><p>I've always loved hand held units over desktops.  Notebook computers are a decent second.  For casual browsing and email, hand held wins hands down.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this remark seem strange to anyone else ?
I , honestly , am not seeing this trend at all , but I 've seen it talked about.I am seeing it .
The trend began in Asia almost a decade ago .
The US is just starting to catch up.I 've always loved hand held units over desktops .
Notebook computers are a decent second .
For casual browsing and email , hand held wins hands down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this remark seem strange to anyone else ?
I, honestly, am not seeing this trend at all, but I've seen it talked about.I am seeing it.
The trend began in Asia almost a decade ago.
The US is just starting to catch up.I've always loved hand held units over desktops.
Notebook computers are a decent second.
For casual browsing and email, hand held wins hands down.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29874161</id>
	<title>John Dvorak</title>
	<author>Yaos</author>
	<datestamp>1256580420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>John Dvorak has never been right in any article he has ever written. Go look.</htmltext>
<tokenext>John Dvorak has never been right in any article he has ever written .
Go look .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>John Dvorak has never been right in any article he has ever written.
Go look.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29860077</id>
	<title>Re:Google "Farhad Manjoo" + Microsoft: Poodle</title>
	<author>bloodhawk</author>
	<datestamp>1256381820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And if you google "John Dvorak" you will discover he is a fucking retard that spends most of his time with his head up his arse and then complains about the smell. <br> <br>

Neither author has much credibility, Dvorak probably has significantly less when it comes to IT as he is just a publicity whore with less IT knowledge than the average gerbil. So just another pointless useless slashdot article that is only here because it has a slight negative slant towards MS.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And if you google " John Dvorak " you will discover he is a fucking retard that spends most of his time with his head up his arse and then complains about the smell .
Neither author has much credibility , Dvorak probably has significantly less when it comes to IT as he is just a publicity whore with less IT knowledge than the average gerbil .
So just another pointless useless slashdot article that is only here because it has a slight negative slant towards MS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if you google "John Dvorak" you will discover he is a fucking retard that spends most of his time with his head up his arse and then complains about the smell.
Neither author has much credibility, Dvorak probably has significantly less when it comes to IT as he is just a publicity whore with less IT knowledge than the average gerbil.
So just another pointless useless slashdot article that is only here because it has a slight negative slant towards MS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29864647</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone REALLY take Dvorak seriously?</title>
	<author>mattand08</author>
	<datestamp>1256486820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you can't even explain why you pay attention to him, why do you continue to pay attention to him?</p></div><p>As internic points out, TWIT is a panel discussion. You have to listen to all of the panelists due to the nature of the program. AFAIK, there's no checkbox to delete a panelist when you download the podcast.</p><p>
Also, "listen" was meant among lines of "consider the advice of", not the actual act.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you ca n't even explain why you pay attention to him , why do you continue to pay attention to him ? As internic points out , TWIT is a panel discussion .
You have to listen to all of the panelists due to the nature of the program .
AFAIK , there 's no checkbox to delete a panelist when you download the podcast .
Also , " listen " was meant among lines of " consider the advice of " , not the actual act .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you can't even explain why you pay attention to him, why do you continue to pay attention to him?As internic points out, TWIT is a panel discussion.
You have to listen to all of the panelists due to the nature of the program.
AFAIK, there's no checkbox to delete a panelist when you download the podcast.
Also, "listen" was meant among lines of "consider the advice of", not the actual act.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29860983</id>
	<title>Re:Good and bad...</title>
	<author>Draek</author>
	<datestamp>1256390160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No. The bad is that *your* notebook is problematic. Mine (Dell D630) works just fine, thanks very much. I'm sure other people's do too.</p></div><p><div class="quote"><p>Don't get me wrong here; I like Linux. I use it at work and am glad to do so. But for a large slice of the regular computing world, it's still got a long way to go.</p></div><p>Nice double standard you've got there. Say what you will about the GP, at least he was consistent in holding the OS responsible for working with the hardware instead of the other way around.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
The bad is that * your * notebook is problematic .
Mine ( Dell D630 ) works just fine , thanks very much .
I 'm sure other people 's do too.Do n't get me wrong here ; I like Linux .
I use it at work and am glad to do so .
But for a large slice of the regular computing world , it 's still got a long way to go.Nice double standard you 've got there .
Say what you will about the GP , at least he was consistent in holding the OS responsible for working with the hardware instead of the other way around .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
The bad is that *your* notebook is problematic.
Mine (Dell D630) works just fine, thanks very much.
I'm sure other people's do too.Don't get me wrong here; I like Linux.
I use it at work and am glad to do so.
But for a large slice of the regular computing world, it's still got a long way to go.Nice double standard you've got there.
Say what you will about the GP, at least he was consistent in holding the OS responsible for working with the hardware instead of the other way around.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29863489</id>
	<title>Re:It's more important MS had another release</title>
	<author>jez9999</author>
	<datestamp>1256473500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Microsoft is unlikely to ever regain the position of dominance they had on 2000-01, so it's only a matter of time.</i></p><p>Painful as it is for me to say, this is nonsense.  With even techies saying Windows 7 is good, Microsoft will make 10s of billions of profit from it.  They will have 95\%+ of the PC market for the forseeable future.</p><p>Frankly, Linux companies dropped the ball.  I have Ubuntu installed on my 2nd machine.  It is a piece of shit (GUI-wise, I'm not interested in fucking around on the commandline thanks) compared to even XP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft is unlikely to ever regain the position of dominance they had on 2000-01 , so it 's only a matter of time.Painful as it is for me to say , this is nonsense .
With even techies saying Windows 7 is good , Microsoft will make 10s of billions of profit from it .
They will have 95 \ % + of the PC market for the forseeable future.Frankly , Linux companies dropped the ball .
I have Ubuntu installed on my 2nd machine .
It is a piece of shit ( GUI-wise , I 'm not interested in fucking around on the commandline thanks ) compared to even XP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft is unlikely to ever regain the position of dominance they had on 2000-01, so it's only a matter of time.Painful as it is for me to say, this is nonsense.
With even techies saying Windows 7 is good, Microsoft will make 10s of billions of profit from it.
They will have 95\%+ of the PC market for the forseeable future.Frankly, Linux companies dropped the ball.
I have Ubuntu installed on my 2nd machine.
It is a piece of shit (GUI-wise, I'm not interested in fucking around on the commandline thanks) compared to even XP.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858503</id>
	<title>Re:Good and bad...</title>
	<author>camperdave</author>
	<datestamp>1256413380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Windows 7 needs a system partition that is blocked by most OEM's backup and restore partition.</i> <br> <br>
Is that part of an attempt to make Win7 un-dual-bootable?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows 7 needs a system partition that is blocked by most OEM 's backup and restore partition .
Is that part of an attempt to make Win7 un-dual-bootable ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows 7 needs a system partition that is blocked by most OEM's backup and restore partition.
Is that part of an attempt to make Win7 un-dual-bootable?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29861041</id>
	<title>TPM is *in*</title>
	<author>microbox</author>
	<datestamp>1256390880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>If I pretend Vista never happened and I'm going straight from XP to 7, 7 is good.</i> <br>
<br>
It seems that we've implicitly accepted TPM. I wonder how long until the screws get tightened.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I pretend Vista never happened and I 'm going straight from XP to 7 , 7 is good .
It seems that we 've implicitly accepted TPM .
I wonder how long until the screws get tightened .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I pretend Vista never happened and I'm going straight from XP to 7, 7 is good.
It seems that we've implicitly accepted TPM.
I wonder how long until the screws get tightened.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858385</id>
	<title>The Solution</title>
	<author>Beeelow</author>
	<datestamp>1256412480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here is the solution to the problem.  It worked for me. <br> <br>

This is copy pasted from the second post here :  <a href="http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7install/thread/aedb1245-f8f9-42ec-9a0c-1aa932363bbb" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7install/thread/aedb1245-f8f9-42ec-9a0c-1aa932363bbb</a> [microsoft.com] <br> <br>

Where this guy got the solution from is here : <a href="http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/30470-make-bootable-iso-student-d-l.html" title="sevenforums.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/30470-make-bootable-iso-student-d-l.html</a> [sevenforums.com] <br> <br>

* * SOLUTION * *<br> <br>

There is a way to create an image file dispite recieving this error we seem to be all recieving.<br> <br>

1. You will need to use an additional Microsoft command-line tool, called Oscdimg.<br> <br>
    Details here<br>
    Download here<br>
   <br>
    Download the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.zip file and extract it. Then cut and paste the Oscdimg.exe file into your C:\Windows\System32 directory<br> <br>


2. You now need to start up your command prompt, which can be done by Start-&gt;Run then enter 'cmd' into the prompt. (Run as administrator if in Vista!)<br> <br>


3. You should now have the command prompt open, now you need to use the Oscdimg tool to create the image, by entering the following:<br>
   Oscdimg.exe -u2 -bC:\ \expandedSetup\boot\etfsboot.com -h C:\ \expandedSetup C:\ \Win7.iso<br> <br>

 For example: Oscdimg.exe -u2 -bC:\Users\James\Downloads\expandedSetup\boot\etfsboot.com -h C:\ Users\James\Downloads \expandedSetup C:\ Users\James\Downloads \Win7.iso<br> <br>

   It will now scan the source tree then begin creating the image. PLEASE note: you must replace ' ' appropriatly as to where you have downloaded the files.<br> <br>


4. You should now have an image file, called Win7.iso, in the same directory.<br> <br>


5. You can now burn this<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.iso file to a blank DVD using appropriate software. I personally use PowerISO (You dont need the paid version to burn the image)<br> <br>


6. Viola! You have your not so shiney Windows 7 disk. Restart your computer and install away!<br> <br>



- I take no acknowledgment for this, I dug about and found the info at: <a href="http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/30470-make-bootable-iso-student-d-l.html" title="sevenforums.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/30470-make-bootable-iso-student-d-l.html</a> [sevenforums.com]
  Thanks SIW2<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)<br> <br>

    * Edited byNixonInnes Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:54 AMtypo's<br>
    * Edited byNixonInnes Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:02 AM<br>
    * Marked As Answer byKevin HauMSFT, ModeratorThursday, October 22, 2009 6:35 PM<br>
    * Edited byKevin HauMSFT, ModeratorThursday, October 22, 2009 9:52 PMstep to run CMD as admin</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here is the solution to the problem .
It worked for me .
This is copy pasted from the second post here : http : //social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7install/thread/aedb1245-f8f9-42ec-9a0c-1aa932363bbb [ microsoft.com ] Where this guy got the solution from is here : http : //www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/30470-make-bootable-iso-student-d-l.html [ sevenforums.com ] * * SOLUTION * * There is a way to create an image file dispite recieving this error we seem to be all recieving .
1. You will need to use an additional Microsoft command-line tool , called Oscdimg .
Details here Download here Download the .zip file and extract it .
Then cut and paste the Oscdimg.exe file into your C : \ Windows \ System32 directory 2 .
You now need to start up your command prompt , which can be done by Start- &gt; Run then enter 'cmd ' into the prompt .
( Run as administrator if in Vista !
) 3 .
You should now have the command prompt open , now you need to use the Oscdimg tool to create the image , by entering the following : Oscdimg.exe -u2 -bC : \ \ expandedSetup \ boot \ etfsboot.com -h C : \ \ expandedSetup C : \ \ Win7.iso For example : Oscdimg.exe -u2 -bC : \ Users \ James \ Downloads \ expandedSetup \ boot \ etfsboot.com -h C : \ Users \ James \ Downloads \ expandedSetup C : \ Users \ James \ Downloads \ Win7.iso It will now scan the source tree then begin creating the image .
PLEASE note : you must replace ' ' appropriatly as to where you have downloaded the files .
4. You should now have an image file , called Win7.iso , in the same directory .
5. You can now burn this .iso file to a blank DVD using appropriate software .
I personally use PowerISO ( You dont need the paid version to burn the image ) 6 .
Viola ! You have your not so shiney Windows 7 disk .
Restart your computer and install away !
- I take no acknowledgment for this , I dug about and found the info at : http : //www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/30470-make-bootable-iso-student-d-l.html [ sevenforums.com ] Thanks SIW2 : ) * Edited byNixonInnes Thursday , October 22 , 2009 8 : 54 AMtypo 's * Edited byNixonInnes Thursday , October 22 , 2009 9 : 02 AM * Marked As Answer byKevin HauMSFT , ModeratorThursday , October 22 , 2009 6 : 35 PM * Edited byKevin HauMSFT , ModeratorThursday , October 22 , 2009 9 : 52 PMstep to run CMD as admin</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here is the solution to the problem.
It worked for me.
This is copy pasted from the second post here :  http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7install/thread/aedb1245-f8f9-42ec-9a0c-1aa932363bbb [microsoft.com]  

Where this guy got the solution from is here : http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/30470-make-bootable-iso-student-d-l.html [sevenforums.com]  

* * SOLUTION * * 

There is a way to create an image file dispite recieving this error we seem to be all recieving.
1. You will need to use an additional Microsoft command-line tool, called Oscdimg.
Details here
    Download here
   
    Download the .zip file and extract it.
Then cut and paste the Oscdimg.exe file into your C:\Windows\System32 directory 


2.
You now need to start up your command prompt, which can be done by Start-&gt;Run then enter 'cmd' into the prompt.
(Run as administrator if in Vista!
) 


3.
You should now have the command prompt open, now you need to use the Oscdimg tool to create the image, by entering the following:
   Oscdimg.exe -u2 -bC:\ \expandedSetup\boot\etfsboot.com -h C:\ \expandedSetup C:\ \Win7.iso 

 For example: Oscdimg.exe -u2 -bC:\Users\James\Downloads\expandedSetup\boot\etfsboot.com -h C:\ Users\James\Downloads \expandedSetup C:\ Users\James\Downloads \Win7.iso 

   It will now scan the source tree then begin creating the image.
PLEASE note: you must replace ' ' appropriatly as to where you have downloaded the files.
4. You should now have an image file, called Win7.iso, in the same directory.
5. You can now burn this .iso file to a blank DVD using appropriate software.
I personally use PowerISO (You dont need the paid version to burn the image) 


6.
Viola! You have your not so shiney Windows 7 disk.
Restart your computer and install away!
- I take no acknowledgment for this, I dug about and found the info at: http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/30470-make-bootable-iso-student-d-l.html [sevenforums.com]
  Thanks SIW2 :) 

    * Edited byNixonInnes Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:54 AMtypo's
    * Edited byNixonInnes Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:02 AM
    * Marked As Answer byKevin HauMSFT, ModeratorThursday, October 22, 2009 6:35 PM
    * Edited byKevin HauMSFT, ModeratorThursday, October 22, 2009 9:52 PMstep to run CMD as admin</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858405</id>
	<title>#1 Tip for a good Windows 7 Outcome</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256412660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Navigate to:</p><p>Control Panel<br>Hardware and Sound<br>Desktop Malevolence Mode<br>Select "Good"<br>Reboot</p><p>Lotus Notes users may be required to restore the Desktop Malevolence Mode to "Evil."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Navigate to : Control PanelHardware and SoundDesktop Malevolence ModeSelect " Good " RebootLotus Notes users may be required to restore the Desktop Malevolence Mode to " Evil .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Navigate to:Control PanelHardware and SoundDesktop Malevolence ModeSelect "Good"RebootLotus Notes users may be required to restore the Desktop Malevolence Mode to "Evil.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29877793</id>
	<title>Re:It's the best version of Windows I've used so f</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256553120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have you ever owned a Mac?
<br> <br>
You should get one.  They're really good.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you ever owned a Mac ?
You should get one .
They 're really good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you ever owned a Mac?
You should get one.
They're really good.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858301</id>
	<title>Re:It's the best version of Windows I've used so f</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256412000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Replacing a "linux gaming partition" is a pretty low bar.</p><p>You read like a pretty dedicated Windows user.  That's not meant as a criticism, merely that you've stuck with it over the long haul - even Windows 98 original, WindowsME and Vista.  That you even had a Linux partition on any of your machines also speaks well of you, being sufficiently interested to even try it out.  I'm curious why you "replaced the linux partition" on your gaming machine, though.  Don't you already have Windows on that machine, on another partition?  Were you running out of space, or did you want multiple Windows installs on it?</p><p>On the other hand, in VLSI engineering, it's just really nice to have a native Unix-family desktop, X windows, and the like, to run the software and peer with the other similar machines.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Replacing a " linux gaming partition " is a pretty low bar.You read like a pretty dedicated Windows user .
That 's not meant as a criticism , merely that you 've stuck with it over the long haul - even Windows 98 original , WindowsME and Vista .
That you even had a Linux partition on any of your machines also speaks well of you , being sufficiently interested to even try it out .
I 'm curious why you " replaced the linux partition " on your gaming machine , though .
Do n't you already have Windows on that machine , on another partition ?
Were you running out of space , or did you want multiple Windows installs on it ? On the other hand , in VLSI engineering , it 's just really nice to have a native Unix-family desktop , X windows , and the like , to run the software and peer with the other similar machines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Replacing a "linux gaming partition" is a pretty low bar.You read like a pretty dedicated Windows user.
That's not meant as a criticism, merely that you've stuck with it over the long haul - even Windows 98 original, WindowsME and Vista.
That you even had a Linux partition on any of your machines also speaks well of you, being sufficiently interested to even try it out.
I'm curious why you "replaced the linux partition" on your gaming machine, though.
Don't you already have Windows on that machine, on another partition?
Were you running out of space, or did you want multiple Windows installs on it?On the other hand, in VLSI engineering, it's just really nice to have a native Unix-family desktop, X windows, and the like, to run the software and peer with the other similar machines.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29870199</id>
	<title>Re:So what?</title>
	<author>aralin</author>
	<datestamp>1256551140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm and people laughed at me in 1989 when I said it will take Microsoft at least 20 years to get networking to work correctly...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm and people laughed at me in 1989 when I said it will take Microsoft at least 20 years to get networking to work correctly.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm and people laughed at me in 1989 when I said it will take Microsoft at least 20 years to get networking to work correctly...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857977</id>
	<title>A martini...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256410020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dear John Dvorak,</p><p>A <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini\_(cocktail)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">martini</a> [wikipedia.org] is made with <b>gin</b> and vermouth.</p><p>A <i>vodka martini</i> is made with vodka.</p><p>Stick to bad car analogies next time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear John Dvorak,A martini [ wikipedia.org ] is made with gin and vermouth.A vodka martini is made with vodka.Stick to bad car analogies next time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear John Dvorak,A martini [wikipedia.org] is made with gin and vermouth.A vodka martini is made with vodka.Stick to bad car analogies next time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29862657</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 faster than what?</title>
	<author>Just Some Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1256412180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I could not believe how much slower a Pentum 4M 3.2 GHz with 4 times as much memory was at basic file manipulation. I'm not talking about running any programs, but just open folder move/copy/delete files.</p></div><p>Say, about 17 minutes to copy a file?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I could not believe how much slower a Pentum 4M 3.2 GHz with 4 times as much memory was at basic file manipulation .
I 'm not talking about running any programs , but just open folder move/copy/delete files.Say , about 17 minutes to copy a file ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I could not believe how much slower a Pentum 4M 3.2 GHz with 4 times as much memory was at basic file manipulation.
I'm not talking about running any programs, but just open folder move/copy/delete files.Say, about 17 minutes to copy a file?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858717</id>
	<title>At least?</title>
	<author>denzacar</author>
	<datestamp>1256415120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What did you use to calculate with such "precision"?</p><p>A Pentium?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What did you use to calculate with such " precision " ? A Pentium ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What did you use to calculate with such "precision"?A Pentium?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858681</id>
	<title>Re:A martini...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256414700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dear Richard Stallman,
<p>
A Linux distro is made with Linux, GNU and other stuff.
</p><p>
A <i>GNU/Linux distro</i> is made with Linux, GNU, other stuff, and the rainbows and unicorns that live only in your head.
</p><p>
Don't post as anonymous coward next time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear Richard Stallman , A Linux distro is made with Linux , GNU and other stuff .
A GNU/Linux distro is made with Linux , GNU , other stuff , and the rainbows and unicorns that live only in your head .
Do n't post as anonymous coward next time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear Richard Stallman,

A Linux distro is made with Linux, GNU and other stuff.
A GNU/Linux distro is made with Linux, GNU, other stuff, and the rainbows and unicorns that live only in your head.
Don't post as anonymous coward next time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857987</id>
	<title>It's the best version of Windows I've used so far.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256410140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And I've used Windows from 3.0 to current, every version and every service pack level.</p><p>It's replaced the linux partition on my gaming desktop even.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I 've used Windows from 3.0 to current , every version and every service pack level.It 's replaced the linux partition on my gaming desktop even .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I've used Windows from 3.0 to current, every version and every service pack level.It's replaced the linux partition on my gaming desktop even.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858349</id>
	<title>Upgrade download</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256412240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd heard about problems with the upgrade downloads as well, but I downloaded it on 10/22 in the afternoon (EST) and it worked fine for me. The only problem was that the order page still had the "Pre-Order" button even after the OS was released. I had to use Digital River's own download manager - it took around half an hour to download the setup file, which was a little less than 3 GB.  Generating an ISO and burning it onto a DVD was simple enough.

It is a little sneaky how they offer Home Premium by default, when you can get Pro for the same price. I'm sure lots of students in dorms need to join their university's domain.

As for the OS itself? I could blue screen Vista Basic 100\% of the time by keeping my USB TV tuner plugged in when putting my computer into sleep mode, then resuming and trying use the tuner or logging off. With 7, I can do the same thing - only it gives me a jumbled display after a few seconds and reboots almost immediately. So yeah, it crashes faster. Kinda glad I didn't pay full price for it...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd heard about problems with the upgrade downloads as well , but I downloaded it on 10/22 in the afternoon ( EST ) and it worked fine for me .
The only problem was that the order page still had the " Pre-Order " button even after the OS was released .
I had to use Digital River 's own download manager - it took around half an hour to download the setup file , which was a little less than 3 GB .
Generating an ISO and burning it onto a DVD was simple enough .
It is a little sneaky how they offer Home Premium by default , when you can get Pro for the same price .
I 'm sure lots of students in dorms need to join their university 's domain .
As for the OS itself ?
I could blue screen Vista Basic 100 \ % of the time by keeping my USB TV tuner plugged in when putting my computer into sleep mode , then resuming and trying use the tuner or logging off .
With 7 , I can do the same thing - only it gives me a jumbled display after a few seconds and reboots almost immediately .
So yeah , it crashes faster .
Kinda glad I did n't pay full price for it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd heard about problems with the upgrade downloads as well, but I downloaded it on 10/22 in the afternoon (EST) and it worked fine for me.
The only problem was that the order page still had the "Pre-Order" button even after the OS was released.
I had to use Digital River's own download manager - it took around half an hour to download the setup file, which was a little less than 3 GB.
Generating an ISO and burning it onto a DVD was simple enough.
It is a little sneaky how they offer Home Premium by default, when you can get Pro for the same price.
I'm sure lots of students in dorms need to join their university's domain.
As for the OS itself?
I could blue screen Vista Basic 100\% of the time by keeping my USB TV tuner plugged in when putting my computer into sleep mode, then resuming and trying use the tuner or logging off.
With 7, I can do the same thing - only it gives me a jumbled display after a few seconds and reboots almost immediately.
So yeah, it crashes faster.
Kinda glad I didn't pay full price for it...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29862827</id>
	<title>Re:MS snatched victory from the jaws of failure...</title>
	<author>tokul</author>
	<datestamp>1256502180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Well it looks like Microsoft has turned the Vista blunder into a Windows 7 success,</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Just wait until normal user complains start flowing. Not from users who flock to every new Microsoft OS and are happy about it and not from Microsoft marketdroids.
</p><p>
Classic menu is gone - bad thing and bigger issue than fscking Office ribbon. Mail, Calendar, Movie Maker are moved to Windows Live Essentials. Last time I've checked, that thing was tied to MSN/Hotmail. Although mail might not be a big issue, because after Vista crippled Mail I moved to Thunderbird despite some serious usage issues on TB.
</p><p>
SPs things are not always good things. XP SP2 added lots of security features AND autorun.inf support to any drive. XP SP3 added more fixes, but it is still not final version and you need post-SP3 patches to fix remote security vulnerability which is actively exploited by trojans.
</p><p>
Windows 7 is good for new users, who've never used older Windows versions, and for brainless Microsoftees, who use latest version and talk only about relatively measured stability and speed of newly installed system. Windows 7 is Vista. It inherited stupid UI decisions, lost even more Windows features and fixed only most serious Vista usability issues. And we'll know if those Vista usability issues are fixed only after longer usage. Simple review does not test them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well it looks like Microsoft has turned the Vista blunder into a Windows 7 success , Just wait until normal user complains start flowing .
Not from users who flock to every new Microsoft OS and are happy about it and not from Microsoft marketdroids .
Classic menu is gone - bad thing and bigger issue than fscking Office ribbon .
Mail , Calendar , Movie Maker are moved to Windows Live Essentials .
Last time I 've checked , that thing was tied to MSN/Hotmail .
Although mail might not be a big issue , because after Vista crippled Mail I moved to Thunderbird despite some serious usage issues on TB .
SPs things are not always good things .
XP SP2 added lots of security features AND autorun.inf support to any drive .
XP SP3 added more fixes , but it is still not final version and you need post-SP3 patches to fix remote security vulnerability which is actively exploited by trojans .
Windows 7 is good for new users , who 've never used older Windows versions , and for brainless Microsoftees , who use latest version and talk only about relatively measured stability and speed of newly installed system .
Windows 7 is Vista .
It inherited stupid UI decisions , lost even more Windows features and fixed only most serious Vista usability issues .
And we 'll know if those Vista usability issues are fixed only after longer usage .
Simple review does not test them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well it looks like Microsoft has turned the Vista blunder into a Windows 7 success,

Just wait until normal user complains start flowing.
Not from users who flock to every new Microsoft OS and are happy about it and not from Microsoft marketdroids.
Classic menu is gone - bad thing and bigger issue than fscking Office ribbon.
Mail, Calendar, Movie Maker are moved to Windows Live Essentials.
Last time I've checked, that thing was tied to MSN/Hotmail.
Although mail might not be a big issue, because after Vista crippled Mail I moved to Thunderbird despite some serious usage issues on TB.
SPs things are not always good things.
XP SP2 added lots of security features AND autorun.inf support to any drive.
XP SP3 added more fixes, but it is still not final version and you need post-SP3 patches to fix remote security vulnerability which is actively exploited by trojans.
Windows 7 is good for new users, who've never used older Windows versions, and for brainless Microsoftees, who use latest version and talk only about relatively measured stability and speed of newly installed system.
Windows 7 is Vista.
It inherited stupid UI decisions, lost even more Windows features and fixed only most serious Vista usability issues.
And we'll know if those Vista usability issues are fixed only after longer usage.
Simple review does not test them.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858141</id>
	<title>Meh!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256411100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What does Dvorak's article have to do with anything? He's not even arguing it's a bad product, he's just saying the other stuff (PR, marketing, whatnot) has to come together.</p><p>I'm not sure if this is the power's fault, or Dvorak's, but what does this article even intend to say? "MICROSOFT MOAR ADS NOAW!"</p><p>They made a good product and dvorak didn't even touch on that subject in the entire article.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What does Dvorak 's article have to do with anything ?
He 's not even arguing it 's a bad product , he 's just saying the other stuff ( PR , marketing , whatnot ) has to come together.I 'm not sure if this is the power 's fault , or Dvorak 's , but what does this article even intend to say ?
" MICROSOFT MOAR ADS NOAW !
" They made a good product and dvorak did n't even touch on that subject in the entire article .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What does Dvorak's article have to do with anything?
He's not even arguing it's a bad product, he's just saying the other stuff (PR, marketing, whatnot) has to come together.I'm not sure if this is the power's fault, or Dvorak's, but what does this article even intend to say?
"MICROSOFT MOAR ADS NOAW!
"They made a good product and dvorak didn't even touch on that subject in the entire article.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29868385</id>
	<title>Re:MS snatched victory from the jaws of failure...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256481900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So when Apple focuses Snow Leopard on improving stability and performance - they are praised to the heavens.</p><p>And now you're saying that's what Microsoft did with Windows 7 - and you trash the release, for the same reasons you love Snow Leopard?</p><p>Biased much, all of you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So when Apple focuses Snow Leopard on improving stability and performance - they are praised to the heavens.And now you 're saying that 's what Microsoft did with Windows 7 - and you trash the release , for the same reasons you love Snow Leopard ? Biased much , all of you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So when Apple focuses Snow Leopard on improving stability and performance - they are praised to the heavens.And now you're saying that's what Microsoft did with Windows 7 - and you trash the release, for the same reasons you love Snow Leopard?Biased much, all of you?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858481</id>
	<title>Re:Are desktop OS's really dying ?</title>
	<author>DannyO152</author>
	<datestamp>1256413200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A question he posed  via browser to a community and website via html.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A question he posed via browser to a community and website via html .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A question he posed  via browser to a community and website via html.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29862171</id>
	<title>Re:Good and bad...</title>
	<author>rob333</author>
	<datestamp>1256404080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ubuntu Netbook Remix is usable, but in no way has a better UI than Windows or OS X. The lack of a unified system search is enough to make me loathe using Linux for everyday use; I used to have OpenSuSE on the Mac I used to have, but when 10.4 and spotlight came around, I reclaimed the space. Also, I think you were encountering a problem by trying to have more than four partitions on an MBR disk; having something in a partition won't affect something being installed in another partition.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubuntu Netbook Remix is usable , but in no way has a better UI than Windows or OS X. The lack of a unified system search is enough to make me loathe using Linux for everyday use ; I used to have OpenSuSE on the Mac I used to have , but when 10.4 and spotlight came around , I reclaimed the space .
Also , I think you were encountering a problem by trying to have more than four partitions on an MBR disk ; having something in a partition wo n't affect something being installed in another partition .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ubuntu Netbook Remix is usable, but in no way has a better UI than Windows or OS X. The lack of a unified system search is enough to make me loathe using Linux for everyday use; I used to have OpenSuSE on the Mac I used to have, but when 10.4 and spotlight came around, I reclaimed the space.
Also, I think you were encountering a problem by trying to have more than four partitions on an MBR disk; having something in a partition won't affect something being installed in another partition.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858177</id>
	<title>So what?</title>
	<author>VinylPusher</author>
	<datestamp>1256411220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I pretend Vista never happened and I'm going straight from XP to 7, 7 is good.</p><p>I could do everything I need to do using just XP, but it wouldn't get done quite as rapidly or elegantly. The whole side-by-side window thing wins a bunch of gratitude from me to Microsoft. Windows key + left/right arrow = definite winner. Anything that reduces my interation with my mouse is a good thing. Works great with side-by-side monitors too<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Windows 7 improves things *just* enough for me to have little moments of 'ooh, that's nice', which is something missing from XP and Vista.</p><p>USB device recognition: Fast. Very fast.<br>Multi-monitor support: Slick. Unobtrusive. A no-brainer.<br>UI interactions: Rapid. Responsive. Highly configurable.  -- I tend to turn off all the animations / slide effects. Me click close gadget = window gone instantly. Thus my productivity goes up a small percentage.<br>Hardware support: Inconspicuous. Works just like magic. -- My Nokia N97 (with or without installation of Nokia's Ovi application suite) works exactly as I need it to when I hook it up.<br>Firewall: I will never need a 3rd-party firewall. Windows 7's firewall (once you get at its interface) is nothing short of perfect.<br>Networking: Again, it just works. No need to faff about with it. Even recognised my nForce 4 based motherboard's Nvidia ethernet port. Not just recognised, but supports TCP offloading. Not that I needed to know this, but I went poking around<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p>OK, I had to install graphics drivers to get any reasonable performance, but if I hadn't, I could still use my 1920x1200 native resolution and not really suffer *too* great a performance loss in office apps.</p><p>Windows 7 will see me through the next 6 years quite happily.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I pretend Vista never happened and I 'm going straight from XP to 7 , 7 is good.I could do everything I need to do using just XP , but it would n't get done quite as rapidly or elegantly .
The whole side-by-side window thing wins a bunch of gratitude from me to Microsoft .
Windows key + left/right arrow = definite winner .
Anything that reduces my interation with my mouse is a good thing .
Works great with side-by-side monitors too : ) Windows 7 improves things * just * enough for me to have little moments of 'ooh , that 's nice ' , which is something missing from XP and Vista.USB device recognition : Fast .
Very fast.Multi-monitor support : Slick .
Unobtrusive. A no-brainer.UI interactions : Rapid .
Responsive. Highly configurable .
-- I tend to turn off all the animations / slide effects .
Me click close gadget = window gone instantly .
Thus my productivity goes up a small percentage.Hardware support : Inconspicuous .
Works just like magic .
-- My Nokia N97 ( with or without installation of Nokia 's Ovi application suite ) works exactly as I need it to when I hook it up.Firewall : I will never need a 3rd-party firewall .
Windows 7 's firewall ( once you get at its interface ) is nothing short of perfect.Networking : Again , it just works .
No need to faff about with it .
Even recognised my nForce 4 based motherboard 's Nvidia ethernet port .
Not just recognised , but supports TCP offloading .
Not that I needed to know this , but I went poking around ; ) OK , I had to install graphics drivers to get any reasonable performance , but if I had n't , I could still use my 1920x1200 native resolution and not really suffer * too * great a performance loss in office apps.Windows 7 will see me through the next 6 years quite happily .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I pretend Vista never happened and I'm going straight from XP to 7, 7 is good.I could do everything I need to do using just XP, but it wouldn't get done quite as rapidly or elegantly.
The whole side-by-side window thing wins a bunch of gratitude from me to Microsoft.
Windows key + left/right arrow = definite winner.
Anything that reduces my interation with my mouse is a good thing.
Works great with side-by-side monitors too :)Windows 7 improves things *just* enough for me to have little moments of 'ooh, that's nice', which is something missing from XP and Vista.USB device recognition: Fast.
Very fast.Multi-monitor support: Slick.
Unobtrusive. A no-brainer.UI interactions: Rapid.
Responsive. Highly configurable.
-- I tend to turn off all the animations / slide effects.
Me click close gadget = window gone instantly.
Thus my productivity goes up a small percentage.Hardware support: Inconspicuous.
Works just like magic.
-- My Nokia N97 (with or without installation of Nokia's Ovi application suite) works exactly as I need it to when I hook it up.Firewall: I will never need a 3rd-party firewall.
Windows 7's firewall (once you get at its interface) is nothing short of perfect.Networking: Again, it just works.
No need to faff about with it.
Even recognised my nForce 4 based motherboard's Nvidia ethernet port.
Not just recognised, but supports TCP offloading.
Not that I needed to know this, but I went poking around ;)OK, I had to install graphics drivers to get any reasonable performance, but if I hadn't, I could still use my 1920x1200 native resolution and not really suffer *too* great a performance loss in office apps.Windows 7 will see me through the next 6 years quite happily.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859141</id>
	<title>What is wrong with FOSS?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256375040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Microsoft tried to torpedo the success of the Japan Linux Symposium by launching their Windows 7 product that same day. They even had setup a big promotion booth across the street from the conference center."</p><p>Really? You think that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Microsoft tried to torpedo the success of the Japan Linux Symposium by launching their Windows 7 product that same day .
They even had setup a big promotion booth across the street from the conference center. " Really ?
You think that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Microsoft tried to torpedo the success of the Japan Linux Symposium by launching their Windows 7 product that same day.
They even had setup a big promotion booth across the street from the conference center."Really?
You think that?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858633</id>
	<title>Did I read the wrong article?</title>
	<author>HockeyPuck</author>
	<datestamp>1256414340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I haven't received a single personal note from a Microsoft PR person for roughly four years.</p></div><p>I didn't see any technical review by Dvorak in the article just a bunch of complaints about MSFT's marketing/PR efforts.  Oddly I don't recall seeing a lot of PR from IBM regarding zOS either, but my zSeries keeps on running.  Seems that he's just sore he hasn't received any TLC from MSFT.  Aww poor Dvorak... sorry that your feelings got hurt.</p><p>Somebody send Ballmer ASAP to give this guy a hug.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't received a single personal note from a Microsoft PR person for roughly four years.I did n't see any technical review by Dvorak in the article just a bunch of complaints about MSFT 's marketing/PR efforts .
Oddly I do n't recall seeing a lot of PR from IBM regarding zOS either , but my zSeries keeps on running .
Seems that he 's just sore he has n't received any TLC from MSFT .
Aww poor Dvorak... sorry that your feelings got hurt.Somebody send Ballmer ASAP to give this guy a hug .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't received a single personal note from a Microsoft PR person for roughly four years.I didn't see any technical review by Dvorak in the article just a bunch of complaints about MSFT's marketing/PR efforts.
Oddly I don't recall seeing a lot of PR from IBM regarding zOS either, but my zSeries keeps on running.
Seems that he's just sore he hasn't received any TLC from MSFT.
Aww poor Dvorak... sorry that your feelings got hurt.Somebody send Ballmer ASAP to give this guy a hug.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29860829</id>
	<title>Re:It's more important MS had another release</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256388720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>so it's only a matter of time.</i> <br> <br>So this is another nail in M$s coffin? Thanks for the heads up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>so it 's only a matter of time .
So this is another nail in M $ s coffin ?
Thanks for the heads up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so it's only a matter of time.
So this is another nail in M$s coffin?
Thanks for the heads up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29862091</id>
	<title>No Debate on Merits</title>
	<author>Grimfaire</author>
	<datestamp>1256402940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not going to get into the whole Linux/MacOS/Windows mess, but talk about the Dvorak article.  Manjoo at least looks at the OS and gives  his opinions on it. Dvorak talks about the marketing that M$ does and does not once actually review the OS.  He doesn't say one thing good or bad based on the OS itself.  He bases his entire opinion on the marketing.  That isn't journalism in any manner whatsoever.  It is purely a crack pot writing what he thinks things are based purely on his opinion with no facts.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not going to get into the whole Linux/MacOS/Windows mess , but talk about the Dvorak article .
Manjoo at least looks at the OS and gives his opinions on it .
Dvorak talks about the marketing that M $ does and does not once actually review the OS .
He does n't say one thing good or bad based on the OS itself .
He bases his entire opinion on the marketing .
That is n't journalism in any manner whatsoever .
It is purely a crack pot writing what he thinks things are based purely on his opinion with no facts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not going to get into the whole Linux/MacOS/Windows mess, but talk about the Dvorak article.
Manjoo at least looks at the OS and gives  his opinions on it.
Dvorak talks about the marketing that M$ does and does not once actually review the OS.
He doesn't say one thing good or bad based on the OS itself.
He bases his entire opinion on the marketing.
That isn't journalism in any manner whatsoever.
It is purely a crack pot writing what he thinks things are based purely on his opinion with no facts.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29862203</id>
	<title>Re:Vastly superior</title>
	<author>CynicTheHedgehog</author>
	<datestamp>1256404920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm a Mac user by choice that is currently typing this from Kubuntu 9.04 with Windows 7 executing in a background.  I was impressed with Windows 7 until I tried to play with networking.  It wasn't working initially (turned out to be a conflict with VirtualBox's default 10.0.2.x NAT range) but I needed to see how Windows was configured (DHCP, etc.).  So I go to Control Panel -&gt; Network and Internet -&gt; View Network Status and Tasks -&gt; Change Adapter Settings.  Then I left-click on "Local Connection".  Now, to get the IP and gateway info, I have to click "View Status of Connection".  To view whether it's set up for DHCP check the DNS servers, I have to click "Change Settings of this Connection", right-click on "Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IP)" and click "Properties".</p><p>By contrast, here is what I do in Mac OS X: Click the apple menu, click System Preferences.  Click Network.  There I'm presented with a list of all of my adapters.  I click on one and I see everything I need.</p><p>In Kubuntu, I click the knetwork-manager applet and click "Manage Connections"</p><p>Now, which of the three is the most usable?  Keep in mind that as I was troubleshooting the networking issue I had with my VM, I constantly had to repeat those steps.  What is that, like 10 clicks?  Look at the menu names<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... "View Network Status and Tasks", "Change Adapter Settings"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... is this supposed to be intuitive?</p><p>Another thing, is that Windows pops up every time I jump on a network and asks me if it's a home network, work network, or public network, and initializes stuff for me (including home groups, which I don't want).  Now, this is fantastic for end users, and a great feature.  But as a power user running 3 levels of NAT at home (local net, work VPN, and NAT VMs) it is infuriating to have the details hidden from me and not know how to get to them.</p><p>I would definitely recommend Windows 7 to anyone who wants to plug something in and have it just work and be done with it (which is I think the point).  But the configuration is hellish, so if you like to tinker, think twice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a Mac user by choice that is currently typing this from Kubuntu 9.04 with Windows 7 executing in a background .
I was impressed with Windows 7 until I tried to play with networking .
It was n't working initially ( turned out to be a conflict with VirtualBox 's default 10.0.2.x NAT range ) but I needed to see how Windows was configured ( DHCP , etc. ) .
So I go to Control Panel - &gt; Network and Internet - &gt; View Network Status and Tasks - &gt; Change Adapter Settings .
Then I left-click on " Local Connection " .
Now , to get the IP and gateway info , I have to click " View Status of Connection " .
To view whether it 's set up for DHCP check the DNS servers , I have to click " Change Settings of this Connection " , right-click on " Internet Protocol Version 4 ( TCP/IP ) " and click " Properties " .By contrast , here is what I do in Mac OS X : Click the apple menu , click System Preferences .
Click Network .
There I 'm presented with a list of all of my adapters .
I click on one and I see everything I need.In Kubuntu , I click the knetwork-manager applet and click " Manage Connections " Now , which of the three is the most usable ?
Keep in mind that as I was troubleshooting the networking issue I had with my VM , I constantly had to repeat those steps .
What is that , like 10 clicks ?
Look at the menu names ... " View Network Status and Tasks " , " Change Adapter Settings " ... is this supposed to be intuitive ? Another thing , is that Windows pops up every time I jump on a network and asks me if it 's a home network , work network , or public network , and initializes stuff for me ( including home groups , which I do n't want ) .
Now , this is fantastic for end users , and a great feature .
But as a power user running 3 levels of NAT at home ( local net , work VPN , and NAT VMs ) it is infuriating to have the details hidden from me and not know how to get to them.I would definitely recommend Windows 7 to anyone who wants to plug something in and have it just work and be done with it ( which is I think the point ) .
But the configuration is hellish , so if you like to tinker , think twice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a Mac user by choice that is currently typing this from Kubuntu 9.04 with Windows 7 executing in a background.
I was impressed with Windows 7 until I tried to play with networking.
It wasn't working initially (turned out to be a conflict with VirtualBox's default 10.0.2.x NAT range) but I needed to see how Windows was configured (DHCP, etc.).
So I go to Control Panel -&gt; Network and Internet -&gt; View Network Status and Tasks -&gt; Change Adapter Settings.
Then I left-click on "Local Connection".
Now, to get the IP and gateway info, I have to click "View Status of Connection".
To view whether it's set up for DHCP check the DNS servers, I have to click "Change Settings of this Connection", right-click on "Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IP)" and click "Properties".By contrast, here is what I do in Mac OS X: Click the apple menu, click System Preferences.
Click Network.
There I'm presented with a list of all of my adapters.
I click on one and I see everything I need.In Kubuntu, I click the knetwork-manager applet and click "Manage Connections"Now, which of the three is the most usable?
Keep in mind that as I was troubleshooting the networking issue I had with my VM, I constantly had to repeat those steps.
What is that, like 10 clicks?
Look at the menu names ... "View Network Status and Tasks", "Change Adapter Settings" ... is this supposed to be intuitive?Another thing, is that Windows pops up every time I jump on a network and asks me if it's a home network, work network, or public network, and initializes stuff for me (including home groups, which I don't want).
Now, this is fantastic for end users, and a great feature.
But as a power user running 3 levels of NAT at home (local net, work VPN, and NAT VMs) it is infuriating to have the details hidden from me and not know how to get to them.I would definitely recommend Windows 7 to anyone who wants to plug something in and have it just work and be done with it (which is I think the point).
But the configuration is hellish, so if you like to tinker, think twice.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29860059</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone REALLY take Dvorak seriously?</title>
	<author>the\_one(2)</author>
	<datestamp>1256381580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A) thought the mouse was a waste of time<br>B) thought the iPhone would fail<br>C) proclaimed there was no way Google would ever buy YouTube</p></div><p>Maybe he just overestimates peoples judgement and ability?<br>A mouse is a lot slower for a lot of things<br>The iphone is "cool" but not very useful<br>How much money have google lost on youtube?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A ) thought the mouse was a waste of timeB ) thought the iPhone would failC ) proclaimed there was no way Google would ever buy YouTubeMaybe he just overestimates peoples judgement and ability ? A mouse is a lot slower for a lot of thingsThe iphone is " cool " but not very usefulHow much money have google lost on youtube ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A) thought the mouse was a waste of timeB) thought the iPhone would failC) proclaimed there was no way Google would ever buy YouTubeMaybe he just overestimates peoples judgement and ability?A mouse is a lot slower for a lot of thingsThe iphone is "cool" but not very usefulHow much money have google lost on youtube?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858543</id>
	<title>Another Misleading Summary</title>
	<author>nuckfuts</author>
	<datestamp>1256413620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just RTFA by Dvorak. It's not an article about whether or not Windows 7 is a good OS. It's a criticism of Microsoft's <strong>marketing</strong> over the past few years.</p><p>The gist of it is that Dvorak is disappointed that Microsoft now cc's him on generic marketing e-mails instead of sucking up to him personally, and he thinks their ad campaigns are lame.</p><p>Overall, there's not much condemnation of Windows 7, and certainly no specific criticisms. In fact, he concludes by writing: </p><p><div class="quote"><p>In the end, Windows 7 is a big deal - but it should be an even bigger deal.</p></div><p> Again, he is criticizing their <strong>marketing</strong>.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just RTFA by Dvorak .
It 's not an article about whether or not Windows 7 is a good OS .
It 's a criticism of Microsoft 's marketing over the past few years.The gist of it is that Dvorak is disappointed that Microsoft now cc 's him on generic marketing e-mails instead of sucking up to him personally , and he thinks their ad campaigns are lame.Overall , there 's not much condemnation of Windows 7 , and certainly no specific criticisms .
In fact , he concludes by writing : In the end , Windows 7 is a big deal - but it should be an even bigger deal .
Again , he is criticizing their marketing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just RTFA by Dvorak.
It's not an article about whether or not Windows 7 is a good OS.
It's a criticism of Microsoft's marketing over the past few years.The gist of it is that Dvorak is disappointed that Microsoft now cc's him on generic marketing e-mails instead of sucking up to him personally, and he thinks their ad campaigns are lame.Overall, there's not much condemnation of Windows 7, and certainly no specific criticisms.
In fact, he concludes by writing: In the end, Windows 7 is a big deal - but it should be an even bigger deal.
Again, he is criticizing their marketing.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29861025</id>
	<title>Vastly superior</title>
	<author>XO</author>
	<datestamp>1256390700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Former Linux advocate.</p><p>Linux is unusable, compared to Windows 7.</p><p>Absolutely. Unusuable.  Linux is only fit to be installed as a system where you will likely never need to mess with it's software ever again after you have it running.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Former Linux advocate.Linux is unusable , compared to Windows 7.Absolutely .
Unusuable. Linux is only fit to be installed as a system where you will likely never need to mess with it 's software ever again after you have it running .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Former Linux advocate.Linux is unusable, compared to Windows 7.Absolutely.
Unusuable.  Linux is only fit to be installed as a system where you will likely never need to mess with it's software ever again after you have it running.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859437</id>
	<title>New OS yuck</title>
	<author>Bodryn</author>
	<datestamp>1256377200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am sick and tired of new Windows systems.  If I have adapted to one of their systems like XP or Win98, why not just fix those for users who don't want to change all the software they like and are still using?  I guess I'll switch to Apple or maybe Linux.  I still have DOS programs I like to run, some being my own.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am sick and tired of new Windows systems .
If I have adapted to one of their systems like XP or Win98 , why not just fix those for users who do n't want to change all the software they like and are still using ?
I guess I 'll switch to Apple or maybe Linux .
I still have DOS programs I like to run , some being my own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am sick and tired of new Windows systems.
If I have adapted to one of their systems like XP or Win98, why not just fix those for users who don't want to change all the software they like and are still using?
I guess I'll switch to Apple or maybe Linux.
I still have DOS programs I like to run, some being my own.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858035</id>
	<title>Re:Are desktop OS's really dying ?</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1256410380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everyone in my family has a laptop that is fast enough for everything they do on a computer. For us, the portability more than makes up for the higher cost (and we are all probably sliding down the cost curve as stuff gets bigger/faster/better).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone in my family has a laptop that is fast enough for everything they do on a computer .
For us , the portability more than makes up for the higher cost ( and we are all probably sliding down the cost curve as stuff gets bigger/faster/better ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone in my family has a laptop that is fast enough for everything they do on a computer.
For us, the portability more than makes up for the higher cost (and we are all probably sliding down the cost curve as stuff gets bigger/faster/better).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29862191</id>
	<title>Re:It's the best version of Windows I've used so f</title>
	<author>rob333</author>
	<datestamp>1256404680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have to heartily agree. While 7's internals aren't radically different from Vista's, they don't have to be. Vista is a fantastic OS; 7's reception cements the fact that a horribly mangled launch and a successful demonization of Vista by Apple drove perception of Vista into the gutter. This makes 7 a rather ironic system; the people who believe that their computers are running horribly simply because they have Vista will possibly purchase 7, and be happy with the negligibly 'improved' performance that is more or less only psychological, while the technically inclined will be hard pressed to part with the cash for seven when all it immediately brings is a new UI (torrents/ MSDN(AA) notwithstanding). However, the redesigned UI makes me loathe to use any other OS, period. I've even given up on Linux for the time being (KDE 4 was a little more usable than Vista in some ways, but can't compete with 7), and just run xming and putty to ssh -X into a university-provided cluster for Unix work.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to heartily agree .
While 7 's internals are n't radically different from Vista 's , they do n't have to be .
Vista is a fantastic OS ; 7 's reception cements the fact that a horribly mangled launch and a successful demonization of Vista by Apple drove perception of Vista into the gutter .
This makes 7 a rather ironic system ; the people who believe that their computers are running horribly simply because they have Vista will possibly purchase 7 , and be happy with the negligibly 'improved ' performance that is more or less only psychological , while the technically inclined will be hard pressed to part with the cash for seven when all it immediately brings is a new UI ( torrents/ MSDN ( AA ) notwithstanding ) .
However , the redesigned UI makes me loathe to use any other OS , period .
I 've even given up on Linux for the time being ( KDE 4 was a little more usable than Vista in some ways , but ca n't compete with 7 ) , and just run xming and putty to ssh -X into a university-provided cluster for Unix work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to heartily agree.
While 7's internals aren't radically different from Vista's, they don't have to be.
Vista is a fantastic OS; 7's reception cements the fact that a horribly mangled launch and a successful demonization of Vista by Apple drove perception of Vista into the gutter.
This makes 7 a rather ironic system; the people who believe that their computers are running horribly simply because they have Vista will possibly purchase 7, and be happy with the negligibly 'improved' performance that is more or less only psychological, while the technically inclined will be hard pressed to part with the cash for seven when all it immediately brings is a new UI (torrents/ MSDN(AA) notwithstanding).
However, the redesigned UI makes me loathe to use any other OS, period.
I've even given up on Linux for the time being (KDE 4 was a little more usable than Vista in some ways, but can't compete with 7), and just run xming and putty to ssh -X into a university-provided cluster for Unix work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857915</id>
	<title>micros~1 pays slate's bills</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256409660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The usual astroturfing vs. the usual critiques. And then there's the mere coincidence that <b>every</b> windows to date has been branded "best windows <i>evar</i>". I can't help but understand, even share, the dark^Wcynical^W critical outlook of some. But then, we also already know that this usually gets snowed under the marketeering driven onslaught that micros~1 does best. They really are more of a marketeering company than anything else. The rest is just gimmick to help sales.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The usual astroturfing vs. the usual critiques .
And then there 's the mere coincidence that every windows to date has been branded " best windows evar " .
I ca n't help but understand , even share , the dark ^ Wcynical ^ W critical outlook of some .
But then , we also already know that this usually gets snowed under the marketeering driven onslaught that micros ~ 1 does best .
They really are more of a marketeering company than anything else .
The rest is just gimmick to help sales .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The usual astroturfing vs. the usual critiques.
And then there's the mere coincidence that every windows to date has been branded "best windows evar".
I can't help but understand, even share, the dark^Wcynical^W critical outlook of some.
But then, we also already know that this usually gets snowed under the marketeering driven onslaught that micros~1 does best.
They really are more of a marketeering company than anything else.
The rest is just gimmick to help sales.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858445</id>
	<title>Re:Good and bad...</title>
	<author>Jesus\_666</author>
	<datestamp>1256413020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ugh. Yes, the "Windows 7 refuses to be installed if it can't write to the first partition of the first hard drive" issue is really annoying. Good thing I only need it in a VM.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ugh .
Yes , the " Windows 7 refuses to be installed if it ca n't write to the first partition of the first hard drive " issue is really annoying .
Good thing I only need it in a VM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ugh.
Yes, the "Windows 7 refuses to be installed if it can't write to the first partition of the first hard drive" issue is really annoying.
Good thing I only need it in a VM.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858021</id>
	<title>The name is Bond</title>
	<author>HangingChad</author>
	<datestamp>1256410320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll have my Windows 7 shaken, not stirred.

</p><p>On a serious note, he's right about what's going on inside MSFT.  That's been happening a long time.  I actually think they would have been farther ahead letting the government break them up. They act like a company that's not all that excited about what they do anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll have my Windows 7 shaken , not stirred .
On a serious note , he 's right about what 's going on inside MSFT .
That 's been happening a long time .
I actually think they would have been farther ahead letting the government break them up .
They act like a company that 's not all that excited about what they do anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll have my Windows 7 shaken, not stirred.
On a serious note, he's right about what's going on inside MSFT.
That's been happening a long time.
I actually think they would have been farther ahead letting the government break them up.
They act like a company that's not all that excited about what they do anymore.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859189</id>
	<title>Cheap Vodka can be better than major brands...</title>
	<author>Jackie\_Chan\_Fan</author>
	<datestamp>1256375340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cheap Vodka can be better than major brands... seriously, everyone knows that.</p><p>There's no olives in Windows 7. I wish there were. I love olives.</p><p>Windows 7 is better than Vista. Its actually a very nice version of Windows, worthy of leaving XP which seems primative now.</p><p>I wish Microsoft would for once and for all, provide a real backup solution. Windows 7's backup is good, but you can only have one back up task. Which yet again makes it worthless. Baby Steps... Baby Steps.... oops Baby hit his head again... when will he learn?... oops there he goes again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cheap Vodka can be better than major brands... seriously , everyone knows that.There 's no olives in Windows 7 .
I wish there were .
I love olives.Windows 7 is better than Vista .
Its actually a very nice version of Windows , worthy of leaving XP which seems primative now.I wish Microsoft would for once and for all , provide a real backup solution .
Windows 7 's backup is good , but you can only have one back up task .
Which yet again makes it worthless .
Baby Steps... Baby Steps.... oops Baby hit his head again... when will he learn ? .. .
oops there he goes again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cheap Vodka can be better than major brands... seriously, everyone knows that.There's no olives in Windows 7.
I wish there were.
I love olives.Windows 7 is better than Vista.
Its actually a very nice version of Windows, worthy of leaving XP which seems primative now.I wish Microsoft would for once and for all, provide a real backup solution.
Windows 7's backup is good, but you can only have one back up task.
Which yet again makes it worthless.
Baby Steps... Baby Steps.... oops Baby hit his head again... when will he learn?...
oops there he goes again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859831</id>
	<title>Re:Dvorak is the enemy of slashdot</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1256379780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait, how can someone simultaneously be against Windows and be an enemy of Slashdot? Does he have secret links to the RIAA?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait , how can someone simultaneously be against Windows and be an enemy of Slashdot ?
Does he have secret links to the RIAA ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait, how can someone simultaneously be against Windows and be an enemy of Slashdot?
Does he have secret links to the RIAA?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858951</id>
	<title>yep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256417040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>under the hood, 7 is very different to Vista.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>under the hood , 7 is very different to Vista .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>under the hood, 7 is very different to Vista.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857925</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256409720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got the student 64-bit version for my laptop and it runs like a dream.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got the student 64-bit version for my laptop and it runs like a dream .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got the student 64-bit version for my laptop and it runs like a dream.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29871611</id>
	<title>Skipped Vista...</title>
	<author>rgviza</author>
	<datestamp>1256567820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Had Win 7 on preorder...</p><p>So far so good. Other than the fact that a piece of hardware I have doesn't work in a 64 bit OS, Windows 7 64 bit is a winner.</p><p>That's why I kept my XP 32 bit OS disk and installed Win 7 on a new one. Dual boot 4tw. It's fast and does well with all of the programs I've tested so far.</p><p>I like it...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Had Win 7 on preorder...So far so good .
Other than the fact that a piece of hardware I have does n't work in a 64 bit OS , Windows 7 64 bit is a winner.That 's why I kept my XP 32 bit OS disk and installed Win 7 on a new one .
Dual boot 4tw .
It 's fast and does well with all of the programs I 've tested so far.I like it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Had Win 7 on preorder...So far so good.
Other than the fact that a piece of hardware I have doesn't work in a 64 bit OS, Windows 7 64 bit is a winner.That's why I kept my XP 32 bit OS disk and installed Win 7 on a new one.
Dual boot 4tw.
It's fast and does well with all of the programs I've tested so far.I like it...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859289</id>
	<title>Windows7sp0 no thnx</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256376120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wont waste my time even trying Win7 until Win7sp2 or Win7sp3<br>is out and ppl that i trust tell me it's worth something.</p><p>I also need to see several independant benchmarks on<br>both old and new hardware. Versus XP3Pro+Avira and TweakedXP3Pro+Avira<br>and against Linux+WINE and so on.</p><p>By that time Windows8 has already begun replacing Windows7 ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wont waste my time even trying Win7 until Win7sp2 or Win7sp3is out and ppl that i trust tell me it 's worth something.I also need to see several independant benchmarks onboth old and new hardware .
Versus XP3Pro + Avira and TweakedXP3Pro + Aviraand against Linux + WINE and so on.By that time Windows8 has already begun replacing Windows7 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wont waste my time even trying Win7 until Win7sp2 or Win7sp3is out and ppl that i trust tell me it's worth something.I also need to see several independant benchmarks onboth old and new hardware.
Versus XP3Pro+Avira and TweakedXP3Pro+Aviraand against Linux+WINE and so on.By that time Windows8 has already begun replacing Windows7 ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29875231</id>
	<title>Still waiting ...</title>
	<author>real-modo</author>
	<datestamp>1256585220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... for WinFS.

Now that sounded like something worthwhile.  Wake me up when it's here.  Kthxbye.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... for WinFS .
Now that sounded like something worthwhile .
Wake me up when it 's here .
Kthxbye .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... for WinFS.
Now that sounded like something worthwhile.
Wake me up when it's here.
Kthxbye.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859709</id>
	<title>Enterprise Features?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256379000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Windows 7 is full of exciting enterprise features. Why doesn't anyone talk about those?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows 7 is full of exciting enterprise features .
Why does n't anyone talk about those ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows 7 is full of exciting enterprise features.
Why doesn't anyone talk about those?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29862751</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone REALLY take Dvorak seriously?</title>
	<author>symbolic</author>
	<datestamp>1256500920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to agree. It would be nice if we got a breath of fresh air where all the Dvorak whiners stopped whining. I think he adds some nice color to the discussion. And he tends to keep things on track (or at least tries).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to agree .
It would be nice if we got a breath of fresh air where all the Dvorak whiners stopped whining .
I think he adds some nice color to the discussion .
And he tends to keep things on track ( or at least tries ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to agree.
It would be nice if we got a breath of fresh air where all the Dvorak whiners stopped whining.
I think he adds some nice color to the discussion.
And he tends to keep things on track (or at least tries).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859093</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858677</id>
	<title>Re:MS snatched victory from the jaws of failure...</title>
	<author>GravityStar</author>
	<datestamp>1256414640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They should had have a big launch party. With blackjack. And hookers.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>No no no, \_I'm\_ keeping the party.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They should had have a big launch party .
With blackjack .
And hookers .
...No no no , \ _I 'm \ _ keeping the party .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They should had have a big launch party.
With blackjack.
And hookers.
...No no no, \_I'm\_ keeping the party.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857995</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858769</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone REALLY take Dvorak seriously?</title>
	<author>Lord.Gade</author>
	<datestamp>1256415420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I've been listening to Dvorak on Twit for a few years now. Why does anyone listen to this guy?</p></div><p>u should tell us man, I for one thought DVORAK was a keyboard.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been listening to Dvorak on Twit for a few years now .
Why does anyone listen to this guy ? u should tell us man , I for one thought DVORAK was a keyboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been listening to Dvorak on Twit for a few years now.
Why does anyone listen to this guy?u should tell us man, I for one thought DVORAK was a keyboard.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858033</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857969</id>
	<title>It's more important MS had another release</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256410020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Windows 7 is any good or not is really a moot point. Every new, additional release of windows, and every new API they introduce dilutes the Windows XP/IE monoculture that was stopping the acceptance of alternative OSes. Microsoft is unlikely to ever regain the position of dominance they had on 2000-01, so it's only a matter of time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Windows 7 is any good or not is really a moot point .
Every new , additional release of windows , and every new API they introduce dilutes the Windows XP/IE monoculture that was stopping the acceptance of alternative OSes .
Microsoft is unlikely to ever regain the position of dominance they had on 2000-01 , so it 's only a matter of time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Windows 7 is any good or not is really a moot point.
Every new, additional release of windows, and every new API they introduce dilutes the Windows XP/IE monoculture that was stopping the acceptance of alternative OSes.
Microsoft is unlikely to ever regain the position of dominance they had on 2000-01, so it's only a matter of time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859615</id>
	<title>Re:It's more important MS had another release</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1256378340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Every new, additional release of windows, and every new API they introduce dilutes the Windows XP/IE monoculture that was stopping the acceptance of alternative OSes</i> </p><p>Simply an observation.</p><p>In both the Net Applications and W3Schools stats, Linux is dead in the water - and Win 7 began kicking ass before its commercial release.</p><p>While Apple remains quite content with its upscale OS niche - in the fat years, worth about 5\%-10\% of the client market, domestically.</p><p>Client-side, FOSS isn't producing much of interest that is Linux only - and perhaps too much product for every OS that remains - at best - second tier.<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Every new , additional release of windows , and every new API they introduce dilutes the Windows XP/IE monoculture that was stopping the acceptance of alternative OSes Simply an observation.In both the Net Applications and W3Schools stats , Linux is dead in the water - and Win 7 began kicking ass before its commercial release.While Apple remains quite content with its upscale OS niche - in the fat years , worth about 5 \ % -10 \ % of the client market , domestically.Client-side , FOSS is n't producing much of interest that is Linux only - and perhaps too much product for every OS that remains - at best - second tier .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every new, additional release of windows, and every new API they introduce dilutes the Windows XP/IE monoculture that was stopping the acceptance of alternative OSes Simply an observation.In both the Net Applications and W3Schools stats, Linux is dead in the water - and Win 7 began kicking ass before its commercial release.While Apple remains quite content with its upscale OS niche - in the fat years, worth about 5\%-10\% of the client market, domestically.Client-side, FOSS isn't producing much of interest that is Linux only - and perhaps too much product for every OS that remains - at best - second tier.
 </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857969</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858847</id>
	<title>Re:What Cloud???</title>
	<author>gbjbaanb</author>
	<datestamp>1256416140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The entire concept of 'cloud computing' is moronic</i></p><p>yup.</p><p><i>What could possibly go wrong? </i></p><p>loads.</p><p><i>Once we all have thin clients on our desks hooked into the cloud, we can </i><nobr> <wbr></nobr>... we can charge users per month... Suddenly the cloud seems a lot more of a good idea. To the corporations out there that is, 'cos they don't really care what you think - you'll use the same software they 'cloud-enable' and think you're getting an upgrade of some sort.</p><p>The cloud is coming, even if it's going to take GoogleOS to make it mainstream, despite the (sensible) criticisms you and I may make.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The entire concept of 'cloud computing ' is moronicyup.What could possibly go wrong ?
loads.Once we all have thin clients on our desks hooked into the cloud , we can ... we can charge users per month... Suddenly the cloud seems a lot more of a good idea .
To the corporations out there that is , 'cos they do n't really care what you think - you 'll use the same software they 'cloud-enable ' and think you 're getting an upgrade of some sort.The cloud is coming , even if it 's going to take GoogleOS to make it mainstream , despite the ( sensible ) criticisms you and I may make .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The entire concept of 'cloud computing' is moronicyup.What could possibly go wrong?
loads.Once we all have thin clients on our desks hooked into the cloud, we can  ... we can charge users per month... Suddenly the cloud seems a lot more of a good idea.
To the corporations out there that is, 'cos they don't really care what you think - you'll use the same software they 'cloud-enable' and think you're getting an upgrade of some sort.The cloud is coming, even if it's going to take GoogleOS to make it mainstream, despite the (sensible) criticisms you and I may make.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858065</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859365</id>
	<title>Re:Still hamstringing users after all these years</title>
	<author>Bengie</author>
	<datestamp>1256376780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's because you only need to buy a single copy of Snow Leopard to install it on any Mac. OMG! you just figured out the MS sells an OS and Mac sells hardware, imagine that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's because you only need to buy a single copy of Snow Leopard to install it on any Mac .
OMG ! you just figured out the MS sells an OS and Mac sells hardware , imagine that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's because you only need to buy a single copy of Snow Leopard to install it on any Mac.
OMG! you just figured out the MS sells an OS and Mac sells hardware, imagine that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858345</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859441</id>
	<title>Re:On Par with XP, Quality-Wise</title>
	<author>sponga</author>
	<datestamp>1256377260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agreed, Microsoft should pull MS Office from Apple and listen to the whinning.</p><p>"what? you are begging for our applications and you have stuck your foot in your mouth by creating boot camp"</p><p>On a side note, I wish Apple would grow a pair and release Final Cut Pro on Windows or better just release their OS. Only way I could enjoy FCP was during a couple random early college courses where they provided Macs and AutoCAD support on the Mac was dropped for like 10 years on the Mac since the early 90's.</p><p>Their latest one though with the PC character going through all the ages of MS OS are pretty lame, the whole "it's not gonna have any of the problems the last OS had...." and not to mention the fact that maybe MS might have actually created a fairly secure and speedy OS with Win7.</p><p>Vista didn't get enough credit though, although Win7 handles UAC better but by now most applications have adapted to the Vista style driver system and Vista took most of the hits to roll out the red carpet for Win7.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed , Microsoft should pull MS Office from Apple and listen to the whinning. " what ?
you are begging for our applications and you have stuck your foot in your mouth by creating boot camp " On a side note , I wish Apple would grow a pair and release Final Cut Pro on Windows or better just release their OS .
Only way I could enjoy FCP was during a couple random early college courses where they provided Macs and AutoCAD support on the Mac was dropped for like 10 years on the Mac since the early 90 's.Their latest one though with the PC character going through all the ages of MS OS are pretty lame , the whole " it 's not gon na have any of the problems the last OS had.... " and not to mention the fact that maybe MS might have actually created a fairly secure and speedy OS with Win7.Vista did n't get enough credit though , although Win7 handles UAC better but by now most applications have adapted to the Vista style driver system and Vista took most of the hits to roll out the red carpet for Win7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed, Microsoft should pull MS Office from Apple and listen to the whinning."what?
you are begging for our applications and you have stuck your foot in your mouth by creating boot camp"On a side note, I wish Apple would grow a pair and release Final Cut Pro on Windows or better just release their OS.
Only way I could enjoy FCP was during a couple random early college courses where they provided Macs and AutoCAD support on the Mac was dropped for like 10 years on the Mac since the early 90's.Their latest one though with the PC character going through all the ages of MS OS are pretty lame, the whole "it's not gonna have any of the problems the last OS had...." and not to mention the fact that maybe MS might have actually created a fairly secure and speedy OS with Win7.Vista didn't get enough credit though, although Win7 handles UAC better but by now most applications have adapted to the Vista style driver system and Vista took most of the hits to roll out the red carpet for Win7.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858207</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29861803</id>
	<title>Re:Dvorak's complaints have nothing to do with the</title>
	<author>Valdrax</author>
	<datestamp>1256399640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That irritated me too.  And the other guy was not as much gushing about Windows 7 as trying desperately to cover up some Mac envy that he <em>hopes</em> is far more deeply repressed than it seems to be.  "Oh, sure Mac OS X has been doing this for years, but Windows 7 is better I SWEAR--DON'T GIVE ME ANOTHER SHOT, GLORIOUS LEADER!"</p><p>Both of these articles were awful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That irritated me too .
And the other guy was not as much gushing about Windows 7 as trying desperately to cover up some Mac envy that he hopes is far more deeply repressed than it seems to be .
" Oh , sure Mac OS X has been doing this for years , but Windows 7 is better I SWEAR--DO N'T GIVE ME ANOTHER SHOT , GLORIOUS LEADER !
" Both of these articles were awful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That irritated me too.
And the other guy was not as much gushing about Windows 7 as trying desperately to cover up some Mac envy that he hopes is far more deeply repressed than it seems to be.
"Oh, sure Mac OS X has been doing this for years, but Windows 7 is better I SWEAR--DON'T GIVE ME ANOTHER SHOT, GLORIOUS LEADER!
"Both of these articles were awful.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858045</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858911</id>
	<title>Dvorak is a bitter old man who....</title>
	<author>notaprguy</author>
	<datestamp>1256416620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dvorak is pissed that Microsoft PR flacks no longer kiss his ass. He's irrelevant and knows it. If Microsoft assigned a personal PR person to him he'd undoubtedly change his tune. I wouldn't if I were them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dvorak is pissed that Microsoft PR flacks no longer kiss his ass .
He 's irrelevant and knows it .
If Microsoft assigned a personal PR person to him he 'd undoubtedly change his tune .
I would n't if I were them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dvorak is pissed that Microsoft PR flacks no longer kiss his ass.
He's irrelevant and knows it.
If Microsoft assigned a personal PR person to him he'd undoubtedly change his tune.
I wouldn't if I were them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858133</id>
	<title>I read both articles...</title>
	<author>trudyscousin</author>
	<datestamp>1256410980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and came to the conclusion that I was dealing with a couple of cranks in Mssrs. Manjoo and Dvorak (not that the latter comes as any surprise).</p><p>Manjoo's piece attempted to 'prove' that Windows 7 was a better operating system based on <i>one</i> feature (Taskbar/Aero Views vs. Expos&#233;) and provided a rather subjective critiqu&#233; even for that. I'd have liked to have learned more from him about why Windows 7 supposedly beats out Snow Leopard. Nonetheless, his first paragraph (with regards to crapware and the like) tells me what I've always known about the Windows experience: The more things change, the more they unfortunately remain the same.</p><p>As for Dvorak's piece, "cheap Microsoft vodka" paints a funny picture, but droning on about how he never gets any more press kits from Microsoft (is it really any wonder, knowing Dvorak?) doesn't tell me anything about Windows 7.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and came to the conclusion that I was dealing with a couple of cranks in Mssrs .
Manjoo and Dvorak ( not that the latter comes as any surprise ) .Manjoo 's piece attempted to 'prove ' that Windows 7 was a better operating system based on one feature ( Taskbar/Aero Views vs. Expos   ) and provided a rather subjective critiqu   even for that .
I 'd have liked to have learned more from him about why Windows 7 supposedly beats out Snow Leopard .
Nonetheless , his first paragraph ( with regards to crapware and the like ) tells me what I 've always known about the Windows experience : The more things change , the more they unfortunately remain the same.As for Dvorak 's piece , " cheap Microsoft vodka " paints a funny picture , but droning on about how he never gets any more press kits from Microsoft ( is it really any wonder , knowing Dvorak ?
) does n't tell me anything about Windows 7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and came to the conclusion that I was dealing with a couple of cranks in Mssrs.
Manjoo and Dvorak (not that the latter comes as any surprise).Manjoo's piece attempted to 'prove' that Windows 7 was a better operating system based on one feature (Taskbar/Aero Views vs. Exposé) and provided a rather subjective critiqué even for that.
I'd have liked to have learned more from him about why Windows 7 supposedly beats out Snow Leopard.
Nonetheless, his first paragraph (with regards to crapware and the like) tells me what I've always known about the Windows experience: The more things change, the more they unfortunately remain the same.As for Dvorak's piece, "cheap Microsoft vodka" paints a funny picture, but droning on about how he never gets any more press kits from Microsoft (is it really any wonder, knowing Dvorak?
) doesn't tell me anything about Windows 7.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29939719</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone REALLY take Dvorak seriously?</title>
	<author>thepotatoman</author>
	<datestamp>1257014460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I kind of like it.  That sort of talk is helpful because it forces the opposition to defend their position even though their position is a popularly held one and that occasionally leads to actually show that popular opinion to be a farce after all. Plus he usually comes up with some sort of random reason behind his nay-saying.

Basically Dvorak is the ultimate cure-all for tech confirmation bias for me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I kind of like it .
That sort of talk is helpful because it forces the opposition to defend their position even though their position is a popularly held one and that occasionally leads to actually show that popular opinion to be a farce after all .
Plus he usually comes up with some sort of random reason behind his nay-saying .
Basically Dvorak is the ultimate cure-all for tech confirmation bias for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I kind of like it.
That sort of talk is helpful because it forces the opposition to defend their position even though their position is a popularly held one and that occasionally leads to actually show that popular opinion to be a farce after all.
Plus he usually comes up with some sort of random reason behind his nay-saying.
Basically Dvorak is the ultimate cure-all for tech confirmation bias for me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29861827</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 is a lovely gift to the Web (for all!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256399940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So to make your job easier, you want people to pirate Windows 7 just for the IE8 support? Really?</p><p>Wouldn't it be easier for them to just, I don't know, install IE8 instead of a whole new OS?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So to make your job easier , you want people to pirate Windows 7 just for the IE8 support ?
Really ? Would n't it be easier for them to just , I do n't know , install IE8 instead of a whole new OS ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So to make your job easier, you want people to pirate Windows 7 just for the IE8 support?
Really?Wouldn't it be easier for them to just, I don't know, install IE8 instead of a whole new OS?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858363</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858935</id>
	<title>Windows 7 faster than what?</title>
	<author>Posting=!Working</author>
	<datestamp>1256416860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OK, I have no problem with anyone saying Windows 7 is faster than XP.  I've never actually seen Windows 7.  But I have noticed this gem.</p><p>My laptop was disabled due to the cooling fans being completely blocked and my inability to find the 3 hidden screws to finally open the case.  So I hooked up my old desktop, a Celeron 300MHz running Windows 95.  When I finally got the laptop running, I could not believe how much slower a Pentum 4M 3.2 GHz with 4 times as much memory was at basic file manipulation.  I'm not talking about running any programs, but just open folder move/copy/delete files.  I have all visual effect turned off in XP, no thumbnail views, all explorer toolbars and options off, and all power options to Never turn off.  Windows 95, double click on a folder and you see the contents before you can get your finger off the button.  Same with moving, copying and deleting files, click and done.  Everything responds instantly.  Windows XP, click and wait.  Tried shutting off everything, no wireless, no antivirus or anti spyware, nothing at all running at startup on a clean install, and still nothing responds as quickly.</p><p>Can anyone tell me why a computer that is 10 times faster with 4 times the memory is so much slower at responding to simple inputs?  There's a perceptible lag when just single clicking a desktop icon to highlight it.</p><p>I liked computers so much better when the most important thing was reacting to what I was telling it to do.</p><p>There needs to be a Stop button, as in "stop doing everything that you're doing so you can respond to what I'm telling you to do right now."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , I have no problem with anyone saying Windows 7 is faster than XP .
I 've never actually seen Windows 7 .
But I have noticed this gem.My laptop was disabled due to the cooling fans being completely blocked and my inability to find the 3 hidden screws to finally open the case .
So I hooked up my old desktop , a Celeron 300MHz running Windows 95 .
When I finally got the laptop running , I could not believe how much slower a Pentum 4M 3.2 GHz with 4 times as much memory was at basic file manipulation .
I 'm not talking about running any programs , but just open folder move/copy/delete files .
I have all visual effect turned off in XP , no thumbnail views , all explorer toolbars and options off , and all power options to Never turn off .
Windows 95 , double click on a folder and you see the contents before you can get your finger off the button .
Same with moving , copying and deleting files , click and done .
Everything responds instantly .
Windows XP , click and wait .
Tried shutting off everything , no wireless , no antivirus or anti spyware , nothing at all running at startup on a clean install , and still nothing responds as quickly.Can anyone tell me why a computer that is 10 times faster with 4 times the memory is so much slower at responding to simple inputs ?
There 's a perceptible lag when just single clicking a desktop icon to highlight it.I liked computers so much better when the most important thing was reacting to what I was telling it to do.There needs to be a Stop button , as in " stop doing everything that you 're doing so you can respond to what I 'm telling you to do right now .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, I have no problem with anyone saying Windows 7 is faster than XP.
I've never actually seen Windows 7.
But I have noticed this gem.My laptop was disabled due to the cooling fans being completely blocked and my inability to find the 3 hidden screws to finally open the case.
So I hooked up my old desktop, a Celeron 300MHz running Windows 95.
When I finally got the laptop running, I could not believe how much slower a Pentum 4M 3.2 GHz with 4 times as much memory was at basic file manipulation.
I'm not talking about running any programs, but just open folder move/copy/delete files.
I have all visual effect turned off in XP, no thumbnail views, all explorer toolbars and options off, and all power options to Never turn off.
Windows 95, double click on a folder and you see the contents before you can get your finger off the button.
Same with moving, copying and deleting files, click and done.
Everything responds instantly.
Windows XP, click and wait.
Tried shutting off everything, no wireless, no antivirus or anti spyware, nothing at all running at startup on a clean install, and still nothing responds as quickly.Can anyone tell me why a computer that is 10 times faster with 4 times the memory is so much slower at responding to simple inputs?
There's a perceptible lag when just single clicking a desktop icon to highlight it.I liked computers so much better when the most important thing was reacting to what I was telling it to do.There needs to be a Stop button, as in "stop doing everything that you're doing so you can respond to what I'm telling you to do right now.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858157</id>
	<title>Re:Dvorak is the enemy of slashdot</title>
	<author>julesh</author>
	<datestamp>1256411160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Dvorak is an idiot, trying to get publicity for his stupid views</i></p><p>Yeah.  What kind of moron makes a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini\_(cocktail)" title="wikipedia.org">martini</a> [wikipedia.org] with <i>vodka</i>?!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dvorak is an idiot , trying to get publicity for his stupid viewsYeah .
What kind of moron makes a martini [ wikipedia.org ] with vodka ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dvorak is an idiot, trying to get publicity for his stupid viewsYeah.
What kind of moron makes a martini [wikipedia.org] with vodka?
!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858603</id>
	<title>Better early reviews than any other MS OS...</title>
	<author>Brad1138</author>
	<datestamp>1256414100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The reviews here are mixed, but usually reviews (especially on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.) of new Windows OSs are bad at first, taking at least 6-12 months to warm up to the product. I would say that bodes rather well for 7.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The reviews here are mixed , but usually reviews ( especially on / .
) of new Windows OSs are bad at first , taking at least 6-12 months to warm up to the product .
I would say that bodes rather well for 7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reviews here are mixed, but usually reviews (especially on /.
) of new Windows OSs are bad at first, taking at least 6-12 months to warm up to the product.
I would say that bodes rather well for 7.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29873459</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone REALLY take Dvorak seriously?</title>
	<author>Cro Magnon</author>
	<datestamp>1256576880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember Dvorak predicting that everyone would be using OS/2 on the PowerPC.  OS/2 never released its PPC version, OS/2 for Intel is gone, and not even Apple is using the PPC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember Dvorak predicting that everyone would be using OS/2 on the PowerPC .
OS/2 never released its PPC version , OS/2 for Intel is gone , and not even Apple is using the PPC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember Dvorak predicting that everyone would be using OS/2 on the PowerPC.
OS/2 never released its PPC version, OS/2 for Intel is gone, and not even Apple is using the PPC.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29860537</id>
	<title>Win Admins seem to like it?</title>
	<author>ghostis</author>
	<datestamp>1256385720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Although the feeling is not universal, several Windows admins with whom I work have told me they like Windows 7.  This is the first time in a while I have heard  any of them say they actually like a Microsoft OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Although the feeling is not universal , several Windows admins with whom I work have told me they like Windows 7 .
This is the first time in a while I have heard any of them say they actually like a Microsoft OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although the feeling is not universal, several Windows admins with whom I work have told me they like Windows 7.
This is the first time in a while I have heard  any of them say they actually like a Microsoft OS.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29859247</id>
	<title>Run the GUI - not the Computer</title>
	<author>SwedishChef</author>
	<datestamp>1256375820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh good. Yet another iteration of a Microsoft product. They can't just add features or make the old ones better; they have to put them in new places. Take the "Run" command and put it somewhere new. Change the Control Panel. Screw up the Networking configuration screens beyond belief. Change for change's sake. They do this crap in all their products not just the OS; Outlook, Office, etc. It's to the point that customers don't want to upgrade because they don't want to have to re-learn everything.</p><p>People ask me how I can remember all the Unix/Linux command line instructions and I tell them that it's easy. They have not changed much in 25 years. Once you learn them, you've learned them.... all you need is to learn any new ones or any new switches to the old, reliable commands. Contrast this with every Microsoft product ever stole...er, innovated where you'll find new locations for old commands. We know what we need to do but we can't find the stupid command to click on to make it work.</p><p>MS has truly lost their way. The single greatest Apple commercial was the one where John Hodges decided to put all the money on PR and spend nothing to fix the product. It's so typical.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh good .
Yet another iteration of a Microsoft product .
They ca n't just add features or make the old ones better ; they have to put them in new places .
Take the " Run " command and put it somewhere new .
Change the Control Panel .
Screw up the Networking configuration screens beyond belief .
Change for change 's sake .
They do this crap in all their products not just the OS ; Outlook , Office , etc .
It 's to the point that customers do n't want to upgrade because they do n't want to have to re-learn everything.People ask me how I can remember all the Unix/Linux command line instructions and I tell them that it 's easy .
They have not changed much in 25 years .
Once you learn them , you 've learned them.... all you need is to learn any new ones or any new switches to the old , reliable commands .
Contrast this with every Microsoft product ever stole...er , innovated where you 'll find new locations for old commands .
We know what we need to do but we ca n't find the stupid command to click on to make it work.MS has truly lost their way .
The single greatest Apple commercial was the one where John Hodges decided to put all the money on PR and spend nothing to fix the product .
It 's so typical .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh good.
Yet another iteration of a Microsoft product.
They can't just add features or make the old ones better; they have to put them in new places.
Take the "Run" command and put it somewhere new.
Change the Control Panel.
Screw up the Networking configuration screens beyond belief.
Change for change's sake.
They do this crap in all their products not just the OS; Outlook, Office, etc.
It's to the point that customers don't want to upgrade because they don't want to have to re-learn everything.People ask me how I can remember all the Unix/Linux command line instructions and I tell them that it's easy.
They have not changed much in 25 years.
Once you learn them, you've learned them.... all you need is to learn any new ones or any new switches to the old, reliable commands.
Contrast this with every Microsoft product ever stole...er, innovated where you'll find new locations for old commands.
We know what we need to do but we can't find the stupid command to click on to make it work.MS has truly lost their way.
The single greatest Apple commercial was the one where John Hodges decided to put all the money on PR and spend nothing to fix the product.
It's so typical.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858591</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone REALLY take Dvorak seriously?</title>
	<author>PNutts</author>
	<datestamp>1256413920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember when JD and PCMagazine had some relevance and credibility. He must have signed a life-long contract to be still around at that TV-Guide wannabe rag.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember when JD and PCMagazine had some relevance and credibility .
He must have signed a life-long contract to be still around at that TV-Guide wannabe rag .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember when JD and PCMagazine had some relevance and credibility.
He must have signed a life-long contract to be still around at that TV-Guide wannabe rag.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858033</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29857861</id>
	<title>Re:Vodka</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256409360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, Vista was good enough to last an entire evening before I had to go back to XP instead. The pre-installed image crashed and crashed then crashed some more.</p><p>At least something good came out of the Vista train wreck. Microsoft realized they had to do some proper work, and ended up with Win7. By the looks of it, an actually decent OS. I could make do without all the DRM chugging through its innards, wasting cycles, but as usual it'll only really affect a few people (and no pirates), so it's not that critical.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , Vista was good enough to last an entire evening before I had to go back to XP instead .
The pre-installed image crashed and crashed then crashed some more.At least something good came out of the Vista train wreck .
Microsoft realized they had to do some proper work , and ended up with Win7 .
By the looks of it , an actually decent OS .
I could make do without all the DRM chugging through its innards , wasting cycles , but as usual it 'll only really affect a few people ( and no pirates ) , so it 's not that critical .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, Vista was good enough to last an entire evening before I had to go back to XP instead.
The pre-installed image crashed and crashed then crashed some more.At least something good came out of the Vista train wreck.
Microsoft realized they had to do some proper work, and ended up with Win7.
By the looks of it, an actually decent OS.
I could make do without all the DRM chugging through its innards, wasting cycles, but as usual it'll only really affect a few people (and no pirates), so it's not that critical.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29863343</id>
	<title>Re:A martini...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256470200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Soviet Russia, Microsoft vodka cheapens you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Soviet Russia , Microsoft vodka cheapens you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Soviet Russia, Microsoft vodka cheapens you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858321</id>
	<title>Don't feed the trolls.</title>
	<author>Leslie43</author>
	<datestamp>1256412120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dvorak has been known to say things just for the publicity, so take him with a grain of salt. If I remember correctly he has even admitted to this.

How much publicity is he getting by going against popular opinion this time?

Much of that article is him complaining he was left out of the loop. Awwwwwww, I feel so bad for him, someone needs a hug.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dvorak has been known to say things just for the publicity , so take him with a grain of salt .
If I remember correctly he has even admitted to this .
How much publicity is he getting by going against popular opinion this time ?
Much of that article is him complaining he was left out of the loop .
Awwwwwww , I feel so bad for him , someone needs a hug .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dvorak has been known to say things just for the publicity, so take him with a grain of salt.
If I remember correctly he has even admitted to this.
How much publicity is he getting by going against popular opinion this time?
Much of that article is him complaining he was left out of the loop.
Awwwwwww, I feel so bad for him, someone needs a hug.</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_24_166241.29858701</id>
	<title>Re:Does anyone REALLY take Dvorak seriously?</title>
	<author>Quarters</author>
	<datestamp>1256414940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I've been listening to Dvorak on Twit for a few years now. Why does anyone listen to this guy?</p></div></blockquote><p>
If you can't even explain why you pay attention to him, why do you continue to pay attention to him?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been listening to Dvorak on Twit for a few years now .
Why does anyone listen to this guy ?
If you ca n't even explain why you pay attention to him , why do you continue to pay attention to him ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been listening to Dvorak on Twit for a few years now.
Why does anyone listen to this guy?
If you can't even explain why you pay attention to him, why do you continue to pay attention to him?
	</sentencetext>
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