<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_23_1639234</id>
	<title>Ubuntu "Karmic Koala" RC Hits the Streets With Windows 7</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1256325120000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>oranghutan writes <i>"Computerworld is reporting Canonical has made available the Release Candidate of its latest Linux-based operating system, Ubuntu 9.10, on the same day Microsoft launched the long-awaited Windows 7.  'The upcoming Canonical release, which is code-named <a href="http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/323448/canonical\_takes\_win\_7\_ubuntu\_9\_10\_rc?fp=16&amp;fpid=1">Karmic Koala</a>, is the latest version of the popular flavor of the Linux OS. The development release on Thursday pushed the OS one step closer to final release, which is due on Oct. 29, according to the company's release schedule Web page.  An image of the OS is available for download on Ubuntu's Web site. Test versions of Karmic Koala RC available for download include the server, desktop and netbook versions.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>oranghutan writes " Computerworld is reporting Canonical has made available the Release Candidate of its latest Linux-based operating system , Ubuntu 9.10 , on the same day Microsoft launched the long-awaited Windows 7 .
'The upcoming Canonical release , which is code-named Karmic Koala , is the latest version of the popular flavor of the Linux OS .
The development release on Thursday pushed the OS one step closer to final release , which is due on Oct. 29 , according to the company 's release schedule Web page .
An image of the OS is available for download on Ubuntu 's Web site .
Test versions of Karmic Koala RC available for download include the server , desktop and netbook versions .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>oranghutan writes "Computerworld is reporting Canonical has made available the Release Candidate of its latest Linux-based operating system, Ubuntu 9.10, on the same day Microsoft launched the long-awaited Windows 7.
'The upcoming Canonical release, which is code-named Karmic Koala, is the latest version of the popular flavor of the Linux OS.
The development release on Thursday pushed the OS one step closer to final release, which is due on Oct. 29, according to the company's release schedule Web page.
An image of the OS is available for download on Ubuntu's Web site.
Test versions of Karmic Koala RC available for download include the server, desktop and netbook versions.
'"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850621</id>
	<title>Re:Shitty Summary and Article</title>
	<author>fredjh</author>
	<datestamp>1256331540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know... it's an interesting reminder.  I'll peruse the release notes that the other poster gave a link to, but really... the only reason I'm not excited about a new release is because everything in 9.04 is working right for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know... it 's an interesting reminder .
I 'll peruse the release notes that the other poster gave a link to , but really... the only reason I 'm not excited about a new release is because everything in 9.04 is working right for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know... it's an interesting reminder.
I'll peruse the release notes that the other poster gave a link to, but really... the only reason I'm not excited about a new release is because everything in 9.04 is working right for me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849973</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29886293</id>
	<title>Re:Shitty Summary and Article</title>
	<author>ThatsNotPudding</author>
	<datestamp>1256669520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sadly, an ever-more accurate blurb for Ubuntu is: "Now with even more Mono!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sadly , an ever-more accurate blurb for Ubuntu is : " Now with even more Mono !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sadly, an ever-more accurate blurb for Ubuntu is: "Now with even more Mono!
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849973</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29852721</id>
	<title>Re:transparent system tray in awn</title>
	<author>Requiem18th</author>
	<datestamp>1256299140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is a panel applet that fuses the title bar with the task bar and another applet (at least I think it is an applet) that moves the menubar into the panel (which technically doesn't buy you much space but you could combine these two applets to effectively free two whole rows in your interfase.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a panel applet that fuses the title bar with the task bar and another applet ( at least I think it is an applet ) that moves the menubar into the panel ( which technically does n't buy you much space but you could combine these two applets to effectively free two whole rows in your interfase .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a panel applet that fuses the title bar with the task bar and another applet (at least I think it is an applet) that moves the menubar into the panel (which technically doesn't buy you much space but you could combine these two applets to effectively free two whole rows in your interfase.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850269</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29852213</id>
	<title>Re:RC for only a week?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256295660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nah, in the Ubuntu world we ship out any old bug-ridden crap and count on our fanboys to drown out news of problems with endless "OMG LOOK AT THE AWESOME NEW THEME!" and "SHIT-BROWN IS MY FAVOURITE COLOUR!" comments.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nah , in the Ubuntu world we ship out any old bug-ridden crap and count on our fanboys to drown out news of problems with endless " OMG LOOK AT THE AWESOME NEW THEME !
" and " SHIT-BROWN IS MY FAVOURITE COLOUR !
" comments .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nah, in the Ubuntu world we ship out any old bug-ridden crap and count on our fanboys to drown out news of problems with endless "OMG LOOK AT THE AWESOME NEW THEME!
" and "SHIT-BROWN IS MY FAVOURITE COLOUR!
" comments.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850283</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850175</id>
	<title>Oh heck</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256329860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>it worked for God. Miracles CAN happen, when you apply yourself.</htmltext>
<tokenext>it worked for God .
Miracles CAN happen , when you apply yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it worked for God.
Miracles CAN happen, when you apply yourself.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849961</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849973</id>
	<title>Shitty Summary and Article</title>
	<author>sexconker</author>
	<datestamp>1256329140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>News would entail what's new in this version.</p><p>Non news is a "hey guys Ubuntu has something new too" cry for attention amidst the Win 7 release.</p><p>Ubuntu is great and all, but this article is crap.</p><p>It barely gets around to mentioning:<br>"Built on the latest Linux 2.6.31.1 kernel, Ubuntu 9.10 offers faster boot times, an improved user interface and programming tools for easier software development, according to Canonical."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>News would entail what 's new in this version.Non news is a " hey guys Ubuntu has something new too " cry for attention amidst the Win 7 release.Ubuntu is great and all , but this article is crap.It barely gets around to mentioning : " Built on the latest Linux 2.6.31.1 kernel , Ubuntu 9.10 offers faster boot times , an improved user interface and programming tools for easier software development , according to Canonical .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>News would entail what's new in this version.Non news is a "hey guys Ubuntu has something new too" cry for attention amidst the Win 7 release.Ubuntu is great and all, but this article is crap.It barely gets around to mentioning:"Built on the latest Linux 2.6.31.1 kernel, Ubuntu 9.10 offers faster boot times, an improved user interface and programming tools for easier software development, according to Canonical.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29853111</id>
	<title>Kinda meh for me...</title>
	<author>Abcd1234</author>
	<datestamp>1256303520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I threw the release onto my T61 recently, and compared to Jaunty, it's certainly an evolutionary release.  I'm sure Upstart is very cool, but I haven't seen any improvements in boot time.  Nor are the HAL changes that impressive.  And on my laptop, power consumption is worse by at least a few watts for reasons I have yet to fully explain (this is with all unnecessary modules disabled, wireless turned off, and X configured exactly the same as Jaunty, AFAICT).  Meanwhile, NetworkManager seems to randomly forget my preferred AP and chooses to connect to a local, unlocked WAP... *really* annoying.</p><p>And they seem to have made some weird choices, too.  The version of the iwlagn wifi driver (a driver for a number of very common Intel wifi chipsets on various laptops) included in Karmic doesn't include support for power management.  And, oddly, they've included MythTV 0.22, which hasn't gone gold yet, without any official method for moving back to 0.21 (you can use the Mythbuntu repositories, but who knows how well that will work with upgrades, etc).</p><p>On the flipside, there are some nice fixes and feature additions (bluetooth support looks *much* better, the power manager properly supports multiple batteries, etc), but I'm just not sure it's worth the update.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I threw the release onto my T61 recently , and compared to Jaunty , it 's certainly an evolutionary release .
I 'm sure Upstart is very cool , but I have n't seen any improvements in boot time .
Nor are the HAL changes that impressive .
And on my laptop , power consumption is worse by at least a few watts for reasons I have yet to fully explain ( this is with all unnecessary modules disabled , wireless turned off , and X configured exactly the same as Jaunty , AFAICT ) .
Meanwhile , NetworkManager seems to randomly forget my preferred AP and chooses to connect to a local , unlocked WAP... * really * annoying.And they seem to have made some weird choices , too .
The version of the iwlagn wifi driver ( a driver for a number of very common Intel wifi chipsets on various laptops ) included in Karmic does n't include support for power management .
And , oddly , they 've included MythTV 0.22 , which has n't gone gold yet , without any official method for moving back to 0.21 ( you can use the Mythbuntu repositories , but who knows how well that will work with upgrades , etc ) .On the flipside , there are some nice fixes and feature additions ( bluetooth support looks * much * better , the power manager properly supports multiple batteries , etc ) , but I 'm just not sure it 's worth the update .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I threw the release onto my T61 recently, and compared to Jaunty, it's certainly an evolutionary release.
I'm sure Upstart is very cool, but I haven't seen any improvements in boot time.
Nor are the HAL changes that impressive.
And on my laptop, power consumption is worse by at least a few watts for reasons I have yet to fully explain (this is with all unnecessary modules disabled, wireless turned off, and X configured exactly the same as Jaunty, AFAICT).
Meanwhile, NetworkManager seems to randomly forget my preferred AP and chooses to connect to a local, unlocked WAP... *really* annoying.And they seem to have made some weird choices, too.
The version of the iwlagn wifi driver (a driver for a number of very common Intel wifi chipsets on various laptops) included in Karmic doesn't include support for power management.
And, oddly, they've included MythTV 0.22, which hasn't gone gold yet, without any official method for moving back to 0.21 (you can use the Mythbuntu repositories, but who knows how well that will work with upgrades, etc).On the flipside, there are some nice fixes and feature additions (bluetooth support looks *much* better, the power manager properly supports multiple batteries, etc), but I'm just not sure it's worth the update.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851029</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256289900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With a modest amount of money, you can put together a new system that provides a slick, fully-supported experience using Ubuntu Linux as the OS.</p><p>The problem is that, like Windows, Linux distros that try to serve the mass market have the almost impossible task of supporting everything. It simply doesn't work in all cases.</p><p>Apple solved this problem by packaging a very limited, controlled set of hardware with their OS. If a computer vendor does that with a Linux distro, they can provide a similar "it just works" kind of experience.</p><p>For example, if you buy a Dell system with Ubuntu preinstalled, I think you will find it will "just work".</p><p>On the other hand, if you install Ubuntu on your system made from parts that you might think "ought to just work", you're gambling.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With a modest amount of money , you can put together a new system that provides a slick , fully-supported experience using Ubuntu Linux as the OS.The problem is that , like Windows , Linux distros that try to serve the mass market have the almost impossible task of supporting everything .
It simply does n't work in all cases.Apple solved this problem by packaging a very limited , controlled set of hardware with their OS .
If a computer vendor does that with a Linux distro , they can provide a similar " it just works " kind of experience.For example , if you buy a Dell system with Ubuntu preinstalled , I think you will find it will " just work " .On the other hand , if you install Ubuntu on your system made from parts that you might think " ought to just work " , you 're gambling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With a modest amount of money, you can put together a new system that provides a slick, fully-supported experience using Ubuntu Linux as the OS.The problem is that, like Windows, Linux distros that try to serve the mass market have the almost impossible task of supporting everything.
It simply doesn't work in all cases.Apple solved this problem by packaging a very limited, controlled set of hardware with their OS.
If a computer vendor does that with a Linux distro, they can provide a similar "it just works" kind of experience.For example, if you buy a Dell system with Ubuntu preinstalled, I think you will find it will "just work".On the other hand, if you install Ubuntu on your system made from parts that you might think "ought to just work", you're gambling.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850627</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849983</id>
	<title>Win7 wtf?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256329140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why, oh why is this annexed with Windows 7. The release of either affects the other in no way what-so-ever. If Ubuntu beta/rc is not news worthy by itself, releasing on the same day with Win7 doesn't change that in any way. And yes, even one sentence about what's new in this would not hurt...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why , oh why is this annexed with Windows 7 .
The release of either affects the other in no way what-so-ever .
If Ubuntu beta/rc is not news worthy by itself , releasing on the same day with Win7 does n't change that in any way .
And yes , even one sentence about what 's new in this would not hurt.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why, oh why is this annexed with Windows 7.
The release of either affects the other in no way what-so-ever.
If Ubuntu beta/rc is not news worthy by itself, releasing on the same day with Win7 doesn't change that in any way.
And yes, even one sentence about what's new in this would not hurt...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29853409</id>
	<title>Re:Shitty Summary and Article</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256306460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree the article doesn't mention much.</p><p>The new Ubuntu is actually very fast at booting. 4 seconds and its at the login screen for me<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree the article does n't mention much.The new Ubuntu is actually very fast at booting .
4 seconds and its at the login screen for me : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree the article doesn't mention much.The new Ubuntu is actually very fast at booting.
4 seconds and its at the login screen for me :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849973</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850023</id>
	<title>Would have been better</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256329200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>had they released it several days ahead of 7.</htmltext>
<tokenext>had they released it several days ahead of 7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>had they released it several days ahead of 7.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29853983</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256314860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought an Ubuntu Dell, Inspiron 1420N.</p><p>Testing isn't something they actually DO, it's an excuse they use to not offer the machine you want with Ubuntu preinstalled.  Don't let them fool you for a second.</p><p>If I would have known then what I know now, I probably would have just bought a Mac.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought an Ubuntu Dell , Inspiron 1420N.Testing is n't something they actually DO , it 's an excuse they use to not offer the machine you want with Ubuntu preinstalled .
Do n't let them fool you for a second.If I would have known then what I know now , I probably would have just bought a Mac .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought an Ubuntu Dell, Inspiron 1420N.Testing isn't something they actually DO, it's an excuse they use to not offer the machine you want with Ubuntu preinstalled.
Don't let them fool you for a second.If I would have known then what I know now, I probably would have just bought a Mac.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851029</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851351</id>
	<title>9.10 has been GREAT!</title>
	<author>gbutler69</author>
	<datestamp>1256291100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been using on my production/work laptop (64-bit) that I do EVERYTHING on since Alpha 5 (Late August/Early September). It has been absolutely wonderful! Everything is snappier, cleaner, better. HOME RUN HOME RUN HOME RUN!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using on my production/work laptop ( 64-bit ) that I do EVERYTHING on since Alpha 5 ( Late August/Early September ) .
It has been absolutely wonderful !
Everything is snappier , cleaner , better .
HOME RUN HOME RUN HOME RUN !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using on my production/work laptop (64-bit) that I do EVERYTHING on since Alpha 5 (Late August/Early September).
It has been absolutely wonderful!
Everything is snappier, cleaner, better.
HOME RUN HOME RUN HOME RUN!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851639</id>
	<title>Re:It's ok</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256292180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>s/e/u</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>s/e/u</tokentext>
<sentencetext>s/e/u</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850821</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850133</id>
	<title>Re:Win7 wtf?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256329680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You may have noticed that every item this week is about Windows 7, which according to some people doesn't nearly suck as much as Vista, or ME, or 3.0, or 98 and only nearly as much as XP or 2000.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You may have noticed that every item this week is about Windows 7 , which according to some people does n't nearly suck as much as Vista , or ME , or 3.0 , or 98 and only nearly as much as XP or 2000 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You may have noticed that every item this week is about Windows 7, which according to some people doesn't nearly suck as much as Vista, or ME, or 3.0, or 98 and only nearly as much as XP or 2000.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849983</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29869315</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>yuhong</author>
	<datestamp>1256496000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>On the other hand, the decision to go Ogg-only for Wikimedia projects, including Wikipedia, has been painful for years, but nowadays finally web browsers are supporting it natively.</htmltext>
<tokenext>On the other hand , the decision to go Ogg-only for Wikimedia projects , including Wikipedia , has been painful for years , but nowadays finally web browsers are supporting it natively .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the other hand, the decision to go Ogg-only for Wikimedia projects, including Wikipedia, has been painful for years, but nowadays finally web browsers are supporting it natively.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851711</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29852787</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256299980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A modest amount of money...and an exhorbitant amount of time.</p><p>Also all the petty prove it first whiners aren't going to do anything but tell us that Linux users are still petty, much like Mac ads.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A modest amount of money...and an exhorbitant amount of time.Also all the petty prove it first whiners are n't going to do anything but tell us that Linux users are still petty , much like Mac ads .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A modest amount of money...and an exhorbitant amount of time.Also all the petty prove it first whiners aren't going to do anything but tell us that Linux users are still petty, much like Mac ads.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851029</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850281</id>
	<title>Win 7 vs Linux</title>
	<author>leathered</author>
	<datestamp>1256330340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://itc.ua/node/41680" title="itc.ua">Linus gives his verdict</a> [itc.ua]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus gives his verdict [ itc.ua ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus gives his verdict [itc.ua]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850751</id>
	<title>Re:Still some very important stuff to fix</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256288820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pssh on your Athlon X2, with VDPAU an Atom 330 can play 720p.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pssh on your Athlon X2 , with VDPAU an Atom 330 can play 720p .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pssh on your Athlon X2, with VDPAU an Atom 330 can play 720p.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850183</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850853</id>
	<title>Re:CentOS 5.4 is out, too.</title>
	<author>palegray.net</author>
	<datestamp>1256289240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No, I not joking, I seriously use it.</p></div><p>I know a lot of folks who use it, too<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:). CentOS is great for organizations that use RHEL but don't need paid support on every server instance. I'm a Debian/Ubuntu guy myself, but to each their own.<br> <br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>/me goes back to testing the Ubuntu 9.10 RC now...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , I not joking , I seriously use it.I know a lot of folks who use it , too : ) .
CentOS is great for organizations that use RHEL but do n't need paid support on every server instance .
I 'm a Debian/Ubuntu guy myself , but to each their own .
/me goes back to testing the Ubuntu 9.10 RC now.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, I not joking, I seriously use it.I know a lot of folks who use it, too :).
CentOS is great for organizations that use RHEL but don't need paid support on every server instance.
I'm a Debian/Ubuntu guy myself, but to each their own.
/me goes back to testing the Ubuntu 9.10 RC now...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29854909</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu? Windows? What's the difference?</title>
	<author>dbcad7</author>
	<datestamp>1256375040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually nothing wrong with the new folders that I can see. The alternative is the old way which is to just dump everything into home. If you want to see what it's like just to dump everything in one directory, just go to usr/bin<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. sure you don't have to figure which folder it's in.. </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually nothing wrong with the new folders that I can see .
The alternative is the old way which is to just dump everything into home .
If you want to see what it 's like just to dump everything in one directory , just go to usr/bin .. sure you do n't have to figure which folder it 's in. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually nothing wrong with the new folders that I can see.
The alternative is the old way which is to just dump everything into home.
If you want to see what it's like just to dump everything in one directory, just go to usr/bin .. sure you don't have to figure which folder it's in.. </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850627</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>petrus4</author>
	<datestamp>1256331540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Microsoft is the company that chose to release Windows 7 on the same day as Ubuntu's release candidate, not the other way around. Seems like Microsoft wanted to overshadow and minimize the latest release of Ubuntu, and do so without actually permitting Ubuntu to compete.</p></div><p>LOL.  This literally could potentially cause derisive laughter to the point of choking.</p><p>Microsoft would have to be certifiably insane to consider Ubuntu even a marginal form of competition.</p><p>Even if they weren't light years ahead in other areas of usability, Microsoft *are* ahead of Ubuntu in at least one, basic, critical area.  Stable hardware support that actually works.  You know, as in sound support that doesn't die every few hours, or graphics drivers that don't intermittently cause kernel panics.</p><p>Seriously, Linux users who try and claim that <b>any</b> Linux distribution has any remotely conceivable chance of legitimately competing with either Microsoft or Apple at this point, literally leave me gasping.  The amount denial and delusion engaged in is mind boggling.</p><p>Ubuntu reached a point, once, where I thought that could eventually become true; but since Hardy, Canonical have blown it completely.</p><p>Here's a thought; try going into your local computer place, where they have a Mac displayed for people to play with, and try using it yourself.  You will probably only need to for a few minutes, in order for the point to be made.</p><p>I predict four different possible responses to this post, as well.</p><p>a)  I will be accused of being a corporate shill.  (Believe me, I wish that were true; I could use the money.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;))</p><p>b)  I will be accused of being, "disingenuous," which is apparently a favourite word of GNU/drones and other members of the "community."  Either that, or various other forms of subjective ad hominem will be used, without any attempt made to back them up whatsoever.</p><p>c)  I will be given the, "it doesn't matter how far behind it might be in technical terms, it's FREE!!!1!1!1eleven," argument; which presupposes that anyone who is either a) sane or b) hasn't been subjected to FSF mind control, actually cares about that.  Hint:  They don't.</p><p>d)  This post will be down-modded to -1, Flamebait, Troll, or Overrated, because I'm making statements which cause cognitive dissonance in Linux Youth.</p><p>Prove me wrong, Linux users.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft is the company that chose to release Windows 7 on the same day as Ubuntu 's release candidate , not the other way around .
Seems like Microsoft wanted to overshadow and minimize the latest release of Ubuntu , and do so without actually permitting Ubuntu to compete.LOL .
This literally could potentially cause derisive laughter to the point of choking.Microsoft would have to be certifiably insane to consider Ubuntu even a marginal form of competition.Even if they were n't light years ahead in other areas of usability , Microsoft * are * ahead of Ubuntu in at least one , basic , critical area .
Stable hardware support that actually works .
You know , as in sound support that does n't die every few hours , or graphics drivers that do n't intermittently cause kernel panics.Seriously , Linux users who try and claim that any Linux distribution has any remotely conceivable chance of legitimately competing with either Microsoft or Apple at this point , literally leave me gasping .
The amount denial and delusion engaged in is mind boggling.Ubuntu reached a point , once , where I thought that could eventually become true ; but since Hardy , Canonical have blown it completely.Here 's a thought ; try going into your local computer place , where they have a Mac displayed for people to play with , and try using it yourself .
You will probably only need to for a few minutes , in order for the point to be made.I predict four different possible responses to this post , as well.a ) I will be accused of being a corporate shill .
( Believe me , I wish that were true ; I could use the money .
; ) ) b ) I will be accused of being , " disingenuous , " which is apparently a favourite word of GNU/drones and other members of the " community .
" Either that , or various other forms of subjective ad hominem will be used , without any attempt made to back them up whatsoever.c ) I will be given the , " it does n't matter how far behind it might be in technical terms , it 's FREE ! !
! 1 ! 1 ! 1eleven , " argument ; which presupposes that anyone who is either a ) sane or b ) has n't been subjected to FSF mind control , actually cares about that .
Hint : They do n't.d ) This post will be down-modded to -1 , Flamebait , Troll , or Overrated , because I 'm making statements which cause cognitive dissonance in Linux Youth.Prove me wrong , Linux users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft is the company that chose to release Windows 7 on the same day as Ubuntu's release candidate, not the other way around.
Seems like Microsoft wanted to overshadow and minimize the latest release of Ubuntu, and do so without actually permitting Ubuntu to compete.LOL.
This literally could potentially cause derisive laughter to the point of choking.Microsoft would have to be certifiably insane to consider Ubuntu even a marginal form of competition.Even if they weren't light years ahead in other areas of usability, Microsoft *are* ahead of Ubuntu in at least one, basic, critical area.
Stable hardware support that actually works.
You know, as in sound support that doesn't die every few hours, or graphics drivers that don't intermittently cause kernel panics.Seriously, Linux users who try and claim that any Linux distribution has any remotely conceivable chance of legitimately competing with either Microsoft or Apple at this point, literally leave me gasping.
The amount denial and delusion engaged in is mind boggling.Ubuntu reached a point, once, where I thought that could eventually become true; but since Hardy, Canonical have blown it completely.Here's a thought; try going into your local computer place, where they have a Mac displayed for people to play with, and try using it yourself.
You will probably only need to for a few minutes, in order for the point to be made.I predict four different possible responses to this post, as well.a)  I will be accused of being a corporate shill.
(Believe me, I wish that were true; I could use the money.
;))b)  I will be accused of being, "disingenuous," which is apparently a favourite word of GNU/drones and other members of the "community.
"  Either that, or various other forms of subjective ad hominem will be used, without any attempt made to back them up whatsoever.c)  I will be given the, "it doesn't matter how far behind it might be in technical terms, it's FREE!!
!1!1!1eleven," argument; which presupposes that anyone who is either a) sane or b) hasn't been subjected to FSF mind control, actually cares about that.
Hint:  They don't.d)  This post will be down-modded to -1, Flamebait, Troll, or Overrated, because I'm making statements which cause cognitive dissonance in Linux Youth.Prove me wrong, Linux users.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849941</id>
	<title>Rock on</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256329020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rock on Ubuntu.. I hope 9.10 fixes a lot of the nagging usability issues and bugs of 9.04 and yonder. I love Linux but am frustrated at the slow evolutionary , ugly looking UI, nagging bugs, compatibility issues and lack of enough bundled Open source utils.. I would HATE to switch back to Windows , hope it never happens</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rock on Ubuntu.. I hope 9.10 fixes a lot of the nagging usability issues and bugs of 9.04 and yonder .
I love Linux but am frustrated at the slow evolutionary , ugly looking UI , nagging bugs , compatibility issues and lack of enough bundled Open source utils.. I would HATE to switch back to Windows , hope it never happens</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rock on Ubuntu.. I hope 9.10 fixes a lot of the nagging usability issues and bugs of 9.04 and yonder.
I love Linux but am frustrated at the slow evolutionary , ugly looking UI, nagging bugs, compatibility issues and lack of enough bundled Open source utils.. I would HATE to switch back to Windows , hope it never happens</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29857829</id>
	<title>Re:Nothings perfect</title>
	<author>bmullan</author>
	<datestamp>1256409180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>for Karmic...make sure you "update" as the Release Candidate (RC) was just put up in the last day or so.<br>
Initially with Windows I had only a "generic display" listed and 800x600 display modes.<br>

I am able to get full graphics display modes now after reading <br>
<a href="http://www.linux-kvm.com/content/using-high-resolution-graphics" title="linux-kvm.com" rel="nofollow">Using High Resolution Graphics</a> [linux-kvm.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>for Karmic...make sure you " update " as the Release Candidate ( RC ) was just put up in the last day or so .
Initially with Windows I had only a " generic display " listed and 800x600 display modes .
I am able to get full graphics display modes now after reading Using High Resolution Graphics [ linux-kvm.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for Karmic...make sure you "update" as the Release Candidate (RC) was just put up in the last day or so.
Initially with Windows I had only a "generic display" listed and 800x600 display modes.
I am able to get full graphics display modes now after reading 
Using High Resolution Graphics [linux-kvm.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850649</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851925</id>
	<title>Re:CentOS 5.4 is out, too.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256293740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, it is out. To bad nobody bothered to actually try the net-install even once. Then they would have known there is a version mismatch between it and the repository it is supposed to use, causing installation to fail completely. Looks like the quality testing lacks some quality.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , it is out .
To bad nobody bothered to actually try the net-install even once .
Then they would have known there is a version mismatch between it and the repository it is supposed to use , causing installation to fail completely .
Looks like the quality testing lacks some quality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, it is out.
To bad nobody bothered to actually try the net-install even once.
Then they would have known there is a version mismatch between it and the repository it is supposed to use, causing installation to fail completely.
Looks like the quality testing lacks some quality.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29852693</id>
	<title>Re:Still some very important stuff to fix</title>
	<author>Laurence0</author>
	<datestamp>1256298900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I had similar problems with playing 720p mkv videos on my media server (2GHz P4) and I think the graphics card's too old for VDPAU (it's a Quadro FX 540), however a reasonable work around was to reencode all the videos I had to xvid with mencoder. The files grew very slightly, and I suspect I might have lost a little quality, but I honestly can't see any difference. I knocked up a script to hunt through my entire library for mkv files, and just left it running over night. And then for another day or two. Now I feed any new HD videos I grab through it as well, and I can happily play them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had similar problems with playing 720p mkv videos on my media server ( 2GHz P4 ) and I think the graphics card 's too old for VDPAU ( it 's a Quadro FX 540 ) , however a reasonable work around was to reencode all the videos I had to xvid with mencoder .
The files grew very slightly , and I suspect I might have lost a little quality , but I honestly ca n't see any difference .
I knocked up a script to hunt through my entire library for mkv files , and just left it running over night .
And then for another day or two .
Now I feed any new HD videos I grab through it as well , and I can happily play them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had similar problems with playing 720p mkv videos on my media server (2GHz P4) and I think the graphics card's too old for VDPAU (it's a Quadro FX 540), however a reasonable work around was to reencode all the videos I had to xvid with mencoder.
The files grew very slightly, and I suspect I might have lost a little quality, but I honestly can't see any difference.
I knocked up a script to hunt through my entire library for mkv files, and just left it running over night.
And then for another day or two.
Now I feed any new HD videos I grab through it as well, and I can happily play them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850183</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29869073</id>
	<title>Re:Need hardware!</title>
	<author>socceroos</author>
	<datestamp>1256492040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>HP have cancelled their offering of Ubuntu. Not coincidently, it coincided with the release of Windows 7.</htmltext>
<tokenext>HP have cancelled their offering of Ubuntu .
Not coincidently , it coincided with the release of Windows 7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HP have cancelled their offering of Ubuntu.
Not coincidently, it coincided with the release of Windows 7.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850637</id>
	<title>RC is not for that</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256288400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>RC is for companies who wish to begin using the new system as soon as possible. They get pretty much the finished product to test with their systems a while before the official release date. At that point it should be pretty bug free already.</p><p>But for a system like Ubuntu, there is just no point in long RCs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>RC is for companies who wish to begin using the new system as soon as possible .
They get pretty much the finished product to test with their systems a while before the official release date .
At that point it should be pretty bug free already.But for a system like Ubuntu , there is just no point in long RCs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RC is for companies who wish to begin using the new system as soon as possible.
They get pretty much the finished product to test with their systems a while before the official release date.
At that point it should be pretty bug free already.But for a system like Ubuntu, there is just no point in long RCs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850349</id>
	<title>Re:Win 7 vs Linux</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1256330580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/10/23/linux-creator-linus-torvalds-gives-windows-7-a-thumbs-up" title="neowin.net">http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/10/23/linux-creator-linus-torvalds-gives-windows-7-a-thumbs-up</a> [neowin.net]</p><p>For people who don't read backwards R and backwards N containing languages..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.neowin.net/news/main/09/10/23/linux-creator-linus-torvalds-gives-windows-7-a-thumbs-up [ neowin.net ] For people who do n't read backwards R and backwards N containing languages. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/10/23/linux-creator-linus-torvalds-gives-windows-7-a-thumbs-up [neowin.net]For people who don't read backwards R and backwards N containing languages..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851949</id>
	<title>Re:It's ok</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256293860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't wait for the final release of Kubuntu Karmic Koala!</p><p>Anonymous for obvious reasons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't wait for the final release of Kubuntu Karmic Koala ! Anonymous for obvious reasons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't wait for the final release of Kubuntu Karmic Koala!Anonymous for obvious reasons.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851889</id>
	<title>Re:Win7 wtf?!</title>
	<author>Dynedain</author>
	<datestamp>1256293560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know, if Apple released an OSX update the same day as Win7, I'm sure Win7 would have been mentioned an article about it...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , if Apple released an OSX update the same day as Win7 , I 'm sure Win7 would have been mentioned an article about it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, if Apple released an OSX update the same day as Win7, I'm sure Win7 would have been mentioned an article about it...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850189</id>
	<title>I'm still waiting for</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256329920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Zoonotic Zebra</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Zoonotic Zebra</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Zoonotic Zebra</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850965</id>
	<title>Imitating the master imitator.</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1256289660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After imitating nearly every software feature, we now bring you our new $LINUX\_DESKTOP\_DISTRIBUTION. Now even with adapted <em>release dates</em>! It's the same. But it's only partially implemented! Get it now!!</p><p>"Because through running behind others, you reach excellence in leadership!"</p><p>Man, I love Linux. But that disease of total global imitation must stop right now!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After imitating nearly every software feature , we now bring you our new $ LINUX \ _DESKTOP \ _DISTRIBUTION .
Now even with adapted release dates !
It 's the same .
But it 's only partially implemented !
Get it now ! !
" Because through running behind others , you reach excellence in leadership !
" Man , I love Linux .
But that disease of total global imitation must stop right now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After imitating nearly every software feature, we now bring you our new $LINUX\_DESKTOP\_DISTRIBUTION.
Now even with adapted release dates!
It's the same.
But it's only partially implemented!
Get it now!!
"Because through running behind others, you reach excellence in leadership!
"Man, I love Linux.
But that disease of total global imitation must stop right now!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851677</id>
	<title>Who cares?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256292360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who cares about the RC?</p><p>People who install from CDs are going to wait until final release, anyway (and you can get a free one shipped). And everyone else just does `apt-get dist-upgrade`, or whatever is the corresponding button in Synaptic UI for that, whenever they feel like it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who cares about the RC ? People who install from CDs are going to wait until final release , anyway ( and you can get a free one shipped ) .
And everyone else just does ` apt-get dist-upgrade ` , or whatever is the corresponding button in Synaptic UI for that , whenever they feel like it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who cares about the RC?People who install from CDs are going to wait until final release, anyway (and you can get a free one shipped).
And everyone else just does `apt-get dist-upgrade`, or whatever is the corresponding button in Synaptic UI for that, whenever they feel like it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29852147</id>
	<title>Looks just like 9.04/8.10/8.04/7.10/7.04/6.10/6.06</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256295180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Same old, same old.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Same old , same old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Same old, same old.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851175</id>
	<title>Re:Need hardware!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256290320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Almost all the netbook offerings are going the XP/W7 route.</p></div><p>Really? Have you checked the online stores of the manufacturers? Although I've not done any sort of extensive research, both Dell and HP offer Ubuntu as an option for their netbooks.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Almost all the netbook offerings are going the XP/W7 route.Really ?
Have you checked the online stores of the manufacturers ?
Although I 've not done any sort of extensive research , both Dell and HP offer Ubuntu as an option for their netbooks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Almost all the netbook offerings are going the XP/W7 route.Really?
Have you checked the online stores of the manufacturers?
Although I've not done any sort of extensive research, both Dell and HP offer Ubuntu as an option for their netbooks.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29862299</id>
	<title>Re:transparent system tray in awn</title>
	<author>ZerdZerd</author>
	<datestamp>1256406420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got more vertical space in firefox with <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4762" title="mozilla.org" rel="nofollow">Hide menubar</a> [mozilla.org], <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9256" title="mozilla.org" rel="nofollow">Hide caption</a> [mozilla.org] (makes firefox chromeless) and <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5890" title="mozilla.org" rel="nofollow">tree-style tabs</a> [mozilla.org].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got more vertical space in firefox with Hide menubar [ mozilla.org ] , Hide caption [ mozilla.org ] ( makes firefox chromeless ) and tree-style tabs [ mozilla.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got more vertical space in firefox with Hide menubar [mozilla.org], Hide caption [mozilla.org] (makes firefox chromeless) and tree-style tabs [mozilla.org].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850269</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29861363</id>
	<title>Re:Shitty Summary and Article</title>
	<author>DaVince21</author>
	<datestamp>1256395140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agreed, the final release would have been much more of an article, not the release candidate. I guess it's just "smart advertising" from Slashdot or something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed , the final release would have been much more of an article , not the release candidate .
I guess it 's just " smart advertising " from Slashdot or something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed, the final release would have been much more of an article, not the release candidate.
I guess it's just "smart advertising" from Slashdot or something.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849973</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851605</id>
	<title>Re:It's ok</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256292000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What happened to Lactating Lemur?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What happened to Lactating Lemur ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What happened to Lactating Lemur?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850821</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851199</id>
	<title>It was yesterday</title>
	<author>Tubal-Cain</author>
	<datestamp>1256290440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Computerworld is reporting Canonical has made available the Release Candidate of its latest Linux-based operating system, Ubuntu 9.10, on the same day Microsoft launched the long-awaited Windows 7.</p></div><p>Computerworld is wrong. The RC was released yesterday.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Computerworld is reporting Canonical has made available the Release Candidate of its latest Linux-based operating system , Ubuntu 9.10 , on the same day Microsoft launched the long-awaited Windows 7.Computerworld is wrong .
The RC was released yesterday .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Computerworld is reporting Canonical has made available the Release Candidate of its latest Linux-based operating system, Ubuntu 9.10, on the same day Microsoft launched the long-awaited Windows 7.Computerworld is wrong.
The RC was released yesterday.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850299</id>
	<title>Silly Microsoft!</title>
	<author>93 Escort Wagon</author>
	<datestamp>1256330400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thinking they could steal Ubuntu's thunder! And Steve Ballmer, when asked about this, pretended not to know what Ubuntu was! As if Ubuntu isn't as well known around the world as Microsoft Windows!</p><p>Silly Steve!</p><p>Oh and silly Slashdot, the only place anyone would even consider tying these two release stories together!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thinking they could steal Ubuntu 's thunder !
And Steve Ballmer , when asked about this , pretended not to know what Ubuntu was !
As if Ubuntu is n't as well known around the world as Microsoft Windows ! Silly Steve ! Oh and silly Slashdot , the only place anyone would even consider tying these two release stories together !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thinking they could steal Ubuntu's thunder!
And Steve Ballmer, when asked about this, pretended not to know what Ubuntu was!
As if Ubuntu isn't as well known around the world as Microsoft Windows!Silly Steve!Oh and silly Slashdot, the only place anyone would even consider tying these two release stories together!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29853249</id>
	<title>Re:It's ok</title>
	<author>petrus4</author>
	<datestamp>1256304900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm looking forward to the Lecherous Lemming release, myself.</p><p>Too bad I already missed Copulating Camel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm looking forward to the Lecherous Lemming release , myself.Too bad I already missed Copulating Camel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm looking forward to the Lecherous Lemming release, myself.Too bad I already missed Copulating Camel.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850821</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850573</id>
	<title>from the free-software-as-a-lecture dept</title>
	<author>Eil</author>
	<datestamp>1256331360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The upcoming Canonical release, which is code-named Karmic Koala, is the latest version of the popular flavor of the Linux OS.</p></div></blockquote><p>That's <b>GNU</b>/Linux, you insensitive freeloading RMS-hating clods!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The upcoming Canonical release , which is code-named Karmic Koala , is the latest version of the popular flavor of the Linux OS.That 's GNU/Linux , you insensitive freeloading RMS-hating clods !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The upcoming Canonical release, which is code-named Karmic Koala, is the latest version of the popular flavor of the Linux OS.That's GNU/Linux, you insensitive freeloading RMS-hating clods!
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850997</id>
	<title>Re:Shitty Summary and Article</title>
	<author>tuppe666</author>
	<datestamp>1256289780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I guess Ubuntu will have to cope with the other 6 releases before Windows Vista III the terminal. Ubuntu unashamedly release is timed to contain the latest Gnome, <a href="http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.28/" title="gnome.org" rel="nofollow">http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.28/</a> [gnome.org] of course it includes its own release notes as well <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910</a> [ubuntu.com]. I'm sure your probably aware of good stuff in EXT4; GRUB2; Empathy; Software Centre that have been heavily documented everywhere including serious numbers of Application Improvements in Firefox and OpenOffice. Linux itself continues on spewing greater and improved hardware support which include the usual greatness <a href="http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux26Changes" title="kernelnewbies.org" rel="nofollow">http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux26Changes</a> [kernelnewbies.org] Check out 2.26.28 - 2.26.31 oh and X and Mesa and...

Oh is that a Win 7 cry for attention I know whats new and Better Vista don't cut it!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess Ubuntu will have to cope with the other 6 releases before Windows Vista III the terminal .
Ubuntu unashamedly release is timed to contain the latest Gnome , http : //library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.28/ [ gnome.org ] of course it includes its own release notes as well http : //www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910 [ ubuntu.com ] .
I 'm sure your probably aware of good stuff in EXT4 ; GRUB2 ; Empathy ; Software Centre that have been heavily documented everywhere including serious numbers of Application Improvements in Firefox and OpenOffice .
Linux itself continues on spewing greater and improved hardware support which include the usual greatness http : //kernelnewbies.org/Linux26Changes [ kernelnewbies.org ] Check out 2.26.28 - 2.26.31 oh and X and Mesa and.. . Oh is that a Win 7 cry for attention I know whats new and Better Vista do n't cut it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess Ubuntu will have to cope with the other 6 releases before Windows Vista III the terminal.
Ubuntu unashamedly release is timed to contain the latest Gnome, http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.28/ [gnome.org] of course it includes its own release notes as well http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910 [ubuntu.com].
I'm sure your probably aware of good stuff in EXT4; GRUB2; Empathy; Software Centre that have been heavily documented everywhere including serious numbers of Application Improvements in Firefox and OpenOffice.
Linux itself continues on spewing greater and improved hardware support which include the usual greatness http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux26Changes [kernelnewbies.org] Check out 2.26.28 - 2.26.31 oh and X and Mesa and...

Oh is that a Win 7 cry for attention I know whats new and Better Vista don't cut it!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849973</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29853643</id>
	<title>Re:RC for only a week?</title>
	<author>tuppe666</author>
	<datestamp>1256309340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Evolution not Revolution, and its a Distribution, and one of the things Ubuntu tries to do is have as many features as possible while retaining stability. They produce almost nothing themselves!.  The release often approach works very well, and seems less prone to error/regressions. Thats not to say they don't creep in but look at how poorly Vista was reserved, by making large changes over years, and then releasing to a few select partners. to Windows7 which is very similar to Vista in every way after a shorter time frame on keeping so much the same, and allowing a large number of testers early on. It hasn't hurt the propaganda machine neither.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Evolution not Revolution , and its a Distribution , and one of the things Ubuntu tries to do is have as many features as possible while retaining stability .
They produce almost nothing themselves ! .
The release often approach works very well , and seems less prone to error/regressions .
Thats not to say they do n't creep in but look at how poorly Vista was reserved , by making large changes over years , and then releasing to a few select partners .
to Windows7 which is very similar to Vista in every way after a shorter time frame on keeping so much the same , and allowing a large number of testers early on .
It has n't hurt the propaganda machine neither .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Evolution not Revolution, and its a Distribution, and one of the things Ubuntu tries to do is have as many features as possible while retaining stability.
They produce almost nothing themselves!.
The release often approach works very well, and seems less prone to error/regressions.
Thats not to say they don't creep in but look at how poorly Vista was reserved, by making large changes over years, and then releasing to a few select partners.
to Windows7 which is very similar to Vista in every way after a shorter time frame on keeping so much the same, and allowing a large number of testers early on.
It hasn't hurt the propaganda machine neither.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850283</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29854073</id>
	<title>Re:Win 7 vs Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256316420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it's a u with a long right hook, not a backwards n<br>And<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/ya/ is not a backwards R<br>R = convex right descender to the vertical<br>
&nbsp; = concave right descender to the vertical</p><p>better yet, get a font where latin != cyrillic</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's a u with a long right hook , not a backwards nAnd /ya/ is not a backwards RR = convex right descender to the vertical   = concave right descender to the verticalbetter yet , get a font where latin ! = cyrillic</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's a u with a long right hook, not a backwards nAnd /ya/ is not a backwards RR = convex right descender to the vertical
  = concave right descender to the verticalbetter yet, get a font where latin != cyrillic</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850349</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29854039</id>
	<title>Moving from Beta to RC killed my PC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256315880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I upgraded from the Beta to the RC today and it made my computer unbootable. Im getting error 17 messages in Grub and I never meant for it to upgrade from Grub to Grub2 as apt-get was looking to update Grub about whatever the latest kernel improvement was installed the system crashed and the damn Grub system now cant initialize properly so Im thoroughly boned on this one.</p><p>Compiz still wont work right with my Radeon HD 3600 so to hell with Linux. Honestly, its a never ending headache. Watching Hulu vids in fullscreen mode was also crashing my system. These things dont happen with Windows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I upgraded from the Beta to the RC today and it made my computer unbootable .
Im getting error 17 messages in Grub and I never meant for it to upgrade from Grub to Grub2 as apt-get was looking to update Grub about whatever the latest kernel improvement was installed the system crashed and the damn Grub system now cant initialize properly so Im thoroughly boned on this one.Compiz still wont work right with my Radeon HD 3600 so to hell with Linux .
Honestly , its a never ending headache .
Watching Hulu vids in fullscreen mode was also crashing my system .
These things dont happen with Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I upgraded from the Beta to the RC today and it made my computer unbootable.
Im getting error 17 messages in Grub and I never meant for it to upgrade from Grub to Grub2 as apt-get was looking to update Grub about whatever the latest kernel improvement was installed the system crashed and the damn Grub system now cant initialize properly so Im thoroughly boned on this one.Compiz still wont work right with my Radeon HD 3600 so to hell with Linux.
Honestly, its a never ending headache.
Watching Hulu vids in fullscreen mode was also crashing my system.
These things dont happen with Windows.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850447</id>
	<title>Re:RC for only a week?</title>
	<author>Korin43</author>
	<datestamp>1256330880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No that's the point of all of all of the alphas and betas. The release candidate is supposed to be "This is done, we just want people to test the final version before we release it".</htmltext>
<tokenext>No that 's the point of all of all of the alphas and betas .
The release candidate is supposed to be " This is done , we just want people to test the final version before we release it " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No that's the point of all of all of the alphas and betas.
The release candidate is supposed to be "This is done, we just want people to test the final version before we release it".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850283</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29852947</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>ObsessiveMathsFreak</author>
	<datestamp>1256301840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Having spent the majority of the evening trying to get sound on and intel hda board to work properly in Ubuntu 9.04, I will say that the burden of proof is no <i>entirely</i> on the GP troll.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having spent the majority of the evening trying to get sound on and intel hda board to work properly in Ubuntu 9.04 , I will say that the burden of proof is no entirely on the GP troll .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having spent the majority of the evening trying to get sound on and intel hda board to work properly in Ubuntu 9.04, I will say that the burden of proof is no entirely on the GP troll.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851869</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29861337</id>
	<title>Re:CentOS 5.4 is out, too.</title>
	<author>DaVince21</author>
	<datestamp>1256394840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People only care about the major distro's, as you can see.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People only care about the major distro 's , as you can see .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People only care about the major distro's, as you can see.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849947</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29857215</id>
	<title>Re:It's ok</title>
	<author>julesh</author>
	<datestamp>1256404200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Karmic Koala is fine, but I just can't wait for Masterbating Monkey to be released!</i></p><p>Ah, it seems that like me, you are planning on skipping Leprous Lemur.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Karmic Koala is fine , but I just ca n't wait for Masterbating Monkey to be released ! Ah , it seems that like me , you are planning on skipping Leprous Lemur .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Karmic Koala is fine, but I just can't wait for Masterbating Monkey to be released!Ah, it seems that like me, you are planning on skipping Leprous Lemur.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850821</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29856237</id>
	<title>Re:Still some very important stuff to fix</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256395680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Ubuntu is no longer "Debian with a graphical installer and brown theme", it has become a pretty interesting distro on its own merit.</p></div><p>Yeah, the improved the brown<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-P</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubuntu is no longer " Debian with a graphical installer and brown theme " , it has become a pretty interesting distro on its own merit.Yeah , the improved the brown : -P</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Ubuntu is no longer "Debian with a graphical installer and brown theme", it has become a pretty interesting distro on its own merit.Yeah, the improved the brown :-P
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850001</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850537</id>
	<title>Re:Need hardware!</title>
	<author>Brian Feldman</author>
	<datestamp>1256331240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Buy one and sell the Windows 7 license to me.  I wouldn't mind saving some cash.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Buy one and sell the Windows 7 license to me .
I would n't mind saving some cash .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Buy one and sell the Windows 7 license to me.
I wouldn't mind saving some cash.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849953</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29863421</id>
	<title>Re:It's ok</title>
	<author>mikechant</author>
	<datestamp>1256472000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's pretty damn sad for a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.er not to be able to spell "masturbating" correctly...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's pretty damn sad for a /.er not to be able to spell " masturbating " correctly.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's pretty damn sad for a /.er not to be able to spell "masturbating" correctly...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850821</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29859159</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256375160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Firefox should have it as a third party plugin that they didn't have anything to do with. Nod nod<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Firefox should have it as a third party plugin that they did n't have anything to do with .
Nod nod ; ) ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Firefox should have it as a third party plugin that they didn't have anything to do with.
Nod nod ;) ;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851711</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851291</id>
	<title>Re:I'm still waiting for</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256290860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Phalloid Penguin.</p><p>Captcha "censored". Go figure.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Phalloid Penguin.Captcha " censored " .
Go figure .
: p</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Phalloid Penguin.Captcha "censored".
Go figure.
:p</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850189</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850257</id>
	<title>Netbook version</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256330220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone know if the netbook version will allow my HP Mini 5101 to use the on-board mobile broadband feature (qualcomm u2400 I think)?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone know if the netbook version will allow my HP Mini 5101 to use the on-board mobile broadband feature ( qualcomm u2400 I think ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone know if the netbook version will allow my HP Mini 5101 to use the on-board mobile broadband feature (qualcomm u2400 I think)?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851711</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256292540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's my take on Linux support: Not that long ago, I'd have to chase high and low to find any Linux compatible hardware and certain things like wireless cards was near impossible. These days I have no problems finding Linux-compatible hardware, even though not all or even most hardware is compatible with Linux. There's usually some well-supported official drivers in most categories instead of the "best of the reverse engneered" there used to be. I don't remember this machine having a kernel panic ever, though X did have an oops a month ago because I've upgraded to a beta KDE/X release.</p><p>If I was to say my biggest greatest annoyance with Linux, it's media plugins and flash in particular. If only Firefox would stop being so patent-freaky and decode H.264 <a href="http://ajaxian.com/archives/apple-html5-video" title="ajaxian.com">when it is available</a> [ajaxian.com] then we could kill flash and live happily ever after. *buntu seem perfectly capable of shipping a video player that'll use the x264 codec if installed, so should Firefox.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's my take on Linux support : Not that long ago , I 'd have to chase high and low to find any Linux compatible hardware and certain things like wireless cards was near impossible .
These days I have no problems finding Linux-compatible hardware , even though not all or even most hardware is compatible with Linux .
There 's usually some well-supported official drivers in most categories instead of the " best of the reverse engneered " there used to be .
I do n't remember this machine having a kernel panic ever , though X did have an oops a month ago because I 've upgraded to a beta KDE/X release.If I was to say my biggest greatest annoyance with Linux , it 's media plugins and flash in particular .
If only Firefox would stop being so patent-freaky and decode H.264 when it is available [ ajaxian.com ] then we could kill flash and live happily ever after .
* buntu seem perfectly capable of shipping a video player that 'll use the x264 codec if installed , so should Firefox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's my take on Linux support: Not that long ago, I'd have to chase high and low to find any Linux compatible hardware and certain things like wireless cards was near impossible.
These days I have no problems finding Linux-compatible hardware, even though not all or even most hardware is compatible with Linux.
There's usually some well-supported official drivers in most categories instead of the "best of the reverse engneered" there used to be.
I don't remember this machine having a kernel panic ever, though X did have an oops a month ago because I've upgraded to a beta KDE/X release.If I was to say my biggest greatest annoyance with Linux, it's media plugins and flash in particular.
If only Firefox would stop being so patent-freaky and decode H.264 when it is available [ajaxian.com] then we could kill flash and live happily ever after.
*buntu seem perfectly capable of shipping a video player that'll use the x264 codec if installed, so should Firefox.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29853103</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256303460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>d) This post will be down-modded to -1, Flamebait, Troll, or Overrated, because I'm making statements which cause cognitive dissonance in Linux Youth.<br>
 <br> Prove me wrong, Linux users.</p> </div><p>
I tried to prove you wrong.  But modding you Flamebait again left the number -1 Flamebait.<br>
If you knew what 'cognitive dissonance' meant, you'd also realize that the statement you made, makes no sense.<br>
So it has nothing to do with you creating <b>cognitive dissonance</b> and much more to do with you being a stupid dick.</p></div>
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<tokenext>d ) This post will be down-modded to -1 , Flamebait , Troll , or Overrated , because I 'm making statements which cause cognitive dissonance in Linux Youth .
Prove me wrong , Linux users .
I tried to prove you wrong .
But modding you Flamebait again left the number -1 Flamebait .
If you knew what 'cognitive dissonance ' meant , you 'd also realize that the statement you made , makes no sense .
So it has nothing to do with you creating cognitive dissonance and much more to do with you being a stupid dick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>d) This post will be down-modded to -1, Flamebait, Troll, or Overrated, because I'm making statements which cause cognitive dissonance in Linux Youth.
Prove me wrong, Linux users.
I tried to prove you wrong.
But modding you Flamebait again left the number -1 Flamebait.
If you knew what 'cognitive dissonance' meant, you'd also realize that the statement you made, makes no sense.
So it has nothing to do with you creating cognitive dissonance and much more to do with you being a stupid dick.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851669</id>
	<title>RE: Karmic Koala</title>
	<author>s2theg</author>
	<datestamp>1256292300000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>MMMMM Karmic Kola, *drools*.</htmltext>
<tokenext>MMMMM Karmic Kola , * drools * .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MMMMM Karmic Kola, *drools*.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851337</id>
	<title>Re:Win7 wtf?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256291040000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><i>Why, oh why is this annexed with Windows 7</i></p><p>Maybe the new <a href="http://lh5.ggpht.com/\_COt6T7Tmrok/SuAp5A54riI/AAAAAAAAAow/rWQ8NvS3wYk/s720/dsc\_1576.jpg" title="ggpht.com" rel="nofollow">Windows 7 pitchman</a> [ggpht.com] might have something to do with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why , oh why is this annexed with Windows 7Maybe the new Windows 7 pitchman [ ggpht.com ] might have something to do with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why, oh why is this annexed with Windows 7Maybe the new Windows 7 pitchman [ggpht.com] might have something to do with it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29852215</id>
	<title>And What Features . . .</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256295660000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>And what features of the kernel, X, and GNOME will those reviewing Ubuntu portray as "Ubuntu features"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And what features of the kernel , X , and GNOME will those reviewing Ubuntu portray as " Ubuntu features " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And what features of the kernel, X, and GNOME will those reviewing Ubuntu portray as "Ubuntu features"?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29852191</id>
	<title>Re:Please use the torrents</title>
	<author>icannotthinkofaname</author>
	<datestamp>1256295540000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Man, you should have been there yesterday, when the torrent was actually released.</p><p>I got my overall ratio up to 10.00 in no time, sharing both the Ubuntu and Kubuntu RCs.  A fast connection helps with that, but still, it's really easy, and I wholly intend to repeat this in a week, when U-9.10 comes out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Man , you should have been there yesterday , when the torrent was actually released.I got my overall ratio up to 10.00 in no time , sharing both the Ubuntu and Kubuntu RCs .
A fast connection helps with that , but still , it 's really easy , and I wholly intend to repeat this in a week , when U-9.10 comes out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Man, you should have been there yesterday, when the torrent was actually released.I got my overall ratio up to 10.00 in no time, sharing both the Ubuntu and Kubuntu RCs.
A fast connection helps with that, but still, it's really easy, and I wholly intend to repeat this in a week, when U-9.10 comes out.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850359</id>
	<title>SeaLab 2021</title>
	<author>Archfeld</author>
	<datestamp>1256330580000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>"It's like a koala crapped a rainbow in my brain"<br>I'm all for Linux but who comes up with these names ??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" It 's like a koala crapped a rainbow in my brain " I 'm all for Linux but who comes up with these names ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It's like a koala crapped a rainbow in my brain"I'm all for Linux but who comes up with these names ?
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	<title>6 days?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256329020000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I don't really follow Ubuntu's release cycle, but isn't 6 days between RC and final release a tad short?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't really follow Ubuntu 's release cycle , but is n't 6 days between RC and final release a tad short ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't really follow Ubuntu's release cycle, but isn't 6 days between RC and final release a tad short?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Hats off to MS on Win7 + good to see new *NIX too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256299440000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><div class="quote"><p><b>"Microsoft is the company that chose to release Windows 7 on the same day as Ubuntu's release candidate, not the other way around. Seems like Microsoft wanted to overshadow and minimize the latest release of Ubuntu, and do so without actually permitting Ubuntu to compete."</b> -  by FlyingBishop (1293238) on Friday October 23, @03:34PM (#29850217)</p><p>Guys: Who CARES really (not coming down on you either FlyingB, &amp; here is why)? It's great to see them ALL releasing BETTER &amp; MORE IMPROVED + MORE SOLID OS PRODUCTS, period... why?</p><p>Well, I am here to say 1 thing, in that regards/on that note is why:</p><p>E.G./I.E.-&gt; It's GOOD that there's "genetic diversity" out here in this art &amp; science/field, in that we have MacOS X, Linux, &amp; yes, Microsoft Windows NT-based/derived OS.</p><p>I say that, because it is VERY much like "genetic diversity", because let's say some "plague/virus" were to hit us as human beings, &amp; took out EVERY "white person", but did not 'take out/take down' others such as orientals &amp; blacks etc. et al - there would STILL BE PEOPLE, even if 1 branch of humanity were to fall victim to such a thing.</p><p>The same idea extends itself here, to computing, imo really (for what it's worth).</p><p>I am also here to say another thing, about Windows 7:</p><p>PEOPLE: IT ROCKS!</p><p>I've been using it here now for 2-3 days in 64-bit form, &amp; it absolutely IS what Windows should always have been: Microsoft's got a REAL "HIT" on their hands this round, &amp; they've done the job, right... really right.</p><p>(And, sure: I "yelled @ them" on their forums, &amp; repeatedly around here, about HOSTS files not being able to use 0 as a blocking IP address in VISTA onwards (since the 12/09/2008 security patch that disabled that &amp; made it less efficient), but know what else?</p><p>So, far?? It appears MICROSOFT DID LISTEN to my 'bitching about it' to they @ their "Engineering Windows" blog:</p><p>-----</p><p><b>Engineering Windows 7 blog @ MS, &amp; my points on HOSTS files + what rootkit.com said about the new single part/single layer defense system in VISTA onwards</b> (vs the 3 part one in Server 2003 &amp; below):</p><p>http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/02/25/feedback-and-engineering-windows-7.aspx</p><p>-----</p><p>
&nbsp; (Steven Sinofsky of MS runs or reads it afaik, &amp; he is the head of that project iirc).</p><p>Well, like usual online?</p><p>A lot of people gave me shit about it there, &amp; HERE TOO... but guess what??</p><p>Microsoft DID fix that also!</p><p>I say this because after 2-3 days time testing it now, I am using a "0" based faster &amp; MORE EFFICIENT, successfully!</p><p>(AND, anyone can test in a listbox load of it even, that it is faster the smaller a file is, when line for line read until cr+lf or null terminated strings from a file trailer record hits etc.).</p><p>Mine's a HOSTS file with over 660,000 known bogus sites &amp;/or adbanners servers + malware servers or botnet control servers addresses in it (for BOTH added speed, AND security), &amp; on Windows 7, it's WORKING AGAIN (was a BIG "sticking point" for me &amp; I was not going to buy in to Win7 because of it, in part) successfully!</p><p>I.E.-&gt; A 0 based HOSTS is working now, where it did NOT on VISTA, &amp; it's blocking adbanners (which have been known to host malware for years now too mind you) &amp; known bad sites, perfectly, &amp; using the line-by-line faster 0 blocking smaller/faster "IP Address" (resolves back to 0.0.0.0 though out of local DNS cache) &amp; technically can even avoid the hex-to-decimal conversion that the larger &amp; slower 0.0.0.0 + even worse 127.0.0.1 "loopback adapter" use (slower line by line read up from HOSTS on disk into memory).</p><p><b>My point in noting this? SIMPLE:</b></p><p><b>Microsoft</b>, despite ALL the "Anti-MS" &amp; "Anti-Windows" sentiments around here (especially around here @<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/., moreso than anywhere else online that I have seen @ least), <b> &amp; in my own points mentioned to they here, @ their MS websites/blogs, &amp; the Register -&gt; http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/04/windows\_launch\_parties/comments/</b></p><p><b>etc. et al?</b></p><p><b>Well - MS has proven to us all, that on the security front @ least</b> (which they do take seriously &amp; should, heck Windows Defender &amp; MS Security Essentials being FREE too are evidences further thereof &amp; they are pretty good too) <b>that they ARE &amp; DO LISTEN to us "geek freaks"... which is great - &amp; it's making for a BETTER PRODUCT, period.</b></p><p>I'd like to leave here with one sentiment, &amp; that's to do what I did: Try Windows 7, &amp; especially in 64-bit form, because it IS "that good".</p><p>(I.E.-&gt; I was "stuck" on Windows Server 2003 SP#2 + hotfixes, because it was the "best Windows going" imo &amp; also experience (15++ yrs. of it as a pro in this field))</p><p>Like most things in "complex engineering" of any kind, round #1 is often the 'debug phase'... &amp; VISTA was just the "prototype experiment" of the "shape of things to come", &amp; now, finally?? Hell, I have to say it:</p><p>Congratulations Microsoft, &amp; on your job with Windows 7!</p><p>APK</p><p>P.S.=&gt; And, it is GOOD also, to see that the *NIX folks are improving their lot too - because like I said above? It's about "genetic diversity" &amp; not only on the grounds I note above (in this case, not a human disease plague, but vs. malware etc.) - so, if 1 of our fav. tools in OS' does somehow get "nuked for good" (not possible imo, but, one never knows either)? Others will still be standing.</p><p>Another thing I am slowly migrating to, as I can (where it is possible &amp; available that is), is 64-bit ports of Win32 apps - Yes, even though I have said before to friends online of mine that "I don't need 64-bit apps, because I don't have 4gb++ sized sourcecode files or documents, &amp; nor do I run an Exchange Server" (things that REALLY show HUGE gains by that much memory addresseability), what do I need 64-bit for?"</p><p>I have seen, in the case of WinRAR @ least (running on an INTEL I7 Core 920, + 3gb RAM)? It DOES RUN BETTER/FASTER on rars/unrars... not "hugely", but it IS perceptible - so, even I can "change" &amp; 'see the light' that the 'way to go' is 64-bit, even IF you don't have apps that regularly address that much memory or need it. The gains are small, but, there nevertheless!</p><p>Said all I had to, now waiting for the "Pro-*NIX brigade" here to come 'take pot shots @ me', like usual, lol...</p><p>(Not always, but... Mostly they do (understandeable - MS is competition to they, so they defend *NIX because it's their livelyhood, right or wrong, they defend it - only thing is? I don't think they understand that I like &amp; use them all or have over time))</p><p>I state the above here, because it does happen, however it is also not always that case, whenever I post something "Pro-Windows" that is - sometimes folks "mod up" points I make too as well.</p><p>However, as I noted above? Well - I don't always either - as in the case with my 'rants' here for months about HOSTS files &amp; what the folks @ ROOTKIT.COM found in the new Windows firewall being easier to "unhook" than the older 3 part model Windows Server 2003 &amp; below used (ipfltdrv.sys, ipsec.sys, &amp; ipnat.sys) which worked @ 3 diff. layers around tcpip.sys &amp; the entire IP Stack, much how a "zone defense/greek phalanx" works (take 1 guard down? The other 2 'back him up' type thinking, or why folks use a deadbolt lock + chainlock + doorknob lock as "layered security")...</p><p>Time for me to get back to my JAVA now though... hope you like the read, &amp; to the "Penguins/BSD Devils/MacOS folks"? Try to swallow your pride, &amp; be cool about this - &amp; realize that MS deserves a HUGE congratulations on Windows 7... it is, THAT good, &amp; a large improvement on VISTA, bigtime! apk</p></div></div>
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<tokenext>" Microsoft is the company that chose to release Windows 7 on the same day as Ubuntu 's release candidate , not the other way around .
Seems like Microsoft wanted to overshadow and minimize the latest release of Ubuntu , and do so without actually permitting Ubuntu to compete .
" - by FlyingBishop ( 1293238 ) on Friday October 23 , @ 03 : 34PM ( # 29850217 ) Guys : Who CARES really ( not coming down on you either FlyingB , &amp; here is why ) ?
It 's great to see them ALL releasing BETTER &amp; MORE IMPROVED + MORE SOLID OS PRODUCTS , period... why ? Well , I am here to say 1 thing , in that regards/on that note is why : E.G./I.E.- &gt; It 's GOOD that there 's " genetic diversity " out here in this art &amp; science/field , in that we have MacOS X , Linux , &amp; yes , Microsoft Windows NT-based/derived OS.I say that , because it is VERY much like " genetic diversity " , because let 's say some " plague/virus " were to hit us as human beings , &amp; took out EVERY " white person " , but did not 'take out/take down ' others such as orientals &amp; blacks etc .
et al - there would STILL BE PEOPLE , even if 1 branch of humanity were to fall victim to such a thing.The same idea extends itself here , to computing , imo really ( for what it 's worth ) .I am also here to say another thing , about Windows 7 : PEOPLE : IT ROCKS ! I 've been using it here now for 2-3 days in 64-bit form , &amp; it absolutely IS what Windows should always have been : Microsoft 's got a REAL " HIT " on their hands this round , &amp; they 've done the job , right... really right .
( And , sure : I " yelled @ them " on their forums , &amp; repeatedly around here , about HOSTS files not being able to use 0 as a blocking IP address in VISTA onwards ( since the 12/09/2008 security patch that disabled that &amp; made it less efficient ) , but know what else ? So , far ? ?
It appears MICROSOFT DID LISTEN to my 'bitching about it ' to they @ their " Engineering Windows " blog : -----Engineering Windows 7 blog @ MS , &amp; my points on HOSTS files + what rootkit.com said about the new single part/single layer defense system in VISTA onwards ( vs the 3 part one in Server 2003 &amp; below ) : http : //blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/02/25/feedback-and-engineering-windows-7.aspx-----   ( Steven Sinofsky of MS runs or reads it afaik , &amp; he is the head of that project iirc ) .Well , like usual online ? A lot of people gave me shit about it there , &amp; HERE TOO... but guess what ?
? Microsoft DID fix that also ! I say this because after 2-3 days time testing it now , I am using a " 0 " based faster &amp; MORE EFFICIENT , successfully !
( AND , anyone can test in a listbox load of it even , that it is faster the smaller a file is , when line for line read until cr + lf or null terminated strings from a file trailer record hits etc .
) .Mine 's a HOSTS file with over 660,000 known bogus sites &amp;/or adbanners servers + malware servers or botnet control servers addresses in it ( for BOTH added speed , AND security ) , &amp; on Windows 7 , it 's WORKING AGAIN ( was a BIG " sticking point " for me &amp; I was not going to buy in to Win7 because of it , in part ) successfully ! I.E.- &gt; A 0 based HOSTS is working now , where it did NOT on VISTA , &amp; it 's blocking adbanners ( which have been known to host malware for years now too mind you ) &amp; known bad sites , perfectly , &amp; using the line-by-line faster 0 blocking smaller/faster " IP Address " ( resolves back to 0.0.0.0 though out of local DNS cache ) &amp; technically can even avoid the hex-to-decimal conversion that the larger &amp; slower 0.0.0.0 + even worse 127.0.0.1 " loopback adapter " use ( slower line by line read up from HOSTS on disk into memory ) .My point in noting this ?
SIMPLE : Microsoft , despite ALL the " Anti-MS " &amp; " Anti-Windows " sentiments around here ( especially around here @ /. , moreso than anywhere else online that I have seen @ least ) , &amp; in my own points mentioned to they here , @ their MS websites/blogs , &amp; the Register - &gt; http : //www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/04/windows \ _launch \ _parties/comments/etc .
et al ? Well - MS has proven to us all , that on the security front @ least ( which they do take seriously &amp; should , heck Windows Defender &amp; MS Security Essentials being FREE too are evidences further thereof &amp; they are pretty good too ) that they ARE &amp; DO LISTEN to us " geek freaks " ... which is great - &amp; it 's making for a BETTER PRODUCT , period.I 'd like to leave here with one sentiment , &amp; that 's to do what I did : Try Windows 7 , &amp; especially in 64-bit form , because it IS " that good " .
( I.E.- &gt; I was " stuck " on Windows Server 2003 SP # 2 + hotfixes , because it was the " best Windows going " imo &amp; also experience ( 15 + + yrs .
of it as a pro in this field ) ) Like most things in " complex engineering " of any kind , round # 1 is often the 'debug phase'... &amp; VISTA was just the " prototype experiment " of the " shape of things to come " , &amp; now , finally ? ?
Hell , I have to say it : Congratulations Microsoft , &amp; on your job with Windows 7 ! APKP.S. = &gt; And , it is GOOD also , to see that the * NIX folks are improving their lot too - because like I said above ?
It 's about " genetic diversity " &amp; not only on the grounds I note above ( in this case , not a human disease plague , but vs. malware etc .
) - so , if 1 of our fav .
tools in OS ' does somehow get " nuked for good " ( not possible imo , but , one never knows either ) ?
Others will still be standing.Another thing I am slowly migrating to , as I can ( where it is possible &amp; available that is ) , is 64-bit ports of Win32 apps - Yes , even though I have said before to friends online of mine that " I do n't need 64-bit apps , because I do n't have 4gb + + sized sourcecode files or documents , &amp; nor do I run an Exchange Server " ( things that REALLY show HUGE gains by that much memory addresseability ) , what do I need 64-bit for ?
" I have seen , in the case of WinRAR @ least ( running on an INTEL I7 Core 920 , + 3gb RAM ) ?
It DOES RUN BETTER/FASTER on rars/unrars... not " hugely " , but it IS perceptible - so , even I can " change " &amp; 'see the light ' that the 'way to go ' is 64-bit , even IF you do n't have apps that regularly address that much memory or need it .
The gains are small , but , there nevertheless ! Said all I had to , now waiting for the " Pro- * NIX brigade " here to come 'take pot shots @ me ' , like usual , lol... ( Not always , but... Mostly they do ( understandeable - MS is competition to they , so they defend * NIX because it 's their livelyhood , right or wrong , they defend it - only thing is ?
I do n't think they understand that I like &amp; use them all or have over time ) ) I state the above here , because it does happen , however it is also not always that case , whenever I post something " Pro-Windows " that is - sometimes folks " mod up " points I make too as well.However , as I noted above ?
Well - I do n't always either - as in the case with my 'rants ' here for months about HOSTS files &amp; what the folks @ ROOTKIT.COM found in the new Windows firewall being easier to " unhook " than the older 3 part model Windows Server 2003 &amp; below used ( ipfltdrv.sys , ipsec.sys , &amp; ipnat.sys ) which worked @ 3 diff .
layers around tcpip.sys &amp; the entire IP Stack , much how a " zone defense/greek phalanx " works ( take 1 guard down ?
The other 2 'back him up ' type thinking , or why folks use a deadbolt lock + chainlock + doorknob lock as " layered security " ) ...Time for me to get back to my JAVA now though... hope you like the read , &amp; to the " Penguins/BSD Devils/MacOS folks " ?
Try to swallow your pride , &amp; be cool about this - &amp; realize that MS deserves a HUGE congratulations on Windows 7... it is , THAT good , &amp; a large improvement on VISTA , bigtime !
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<sentencetext>"Microsoft is the company that chose to release Windows 7 on the same day as Ubuntu's release candidate, not the other way around.
Seems like Microsoft wanted to overshadow and minimize the latest release of Ubuntu, and do so without actually permitting Ubuntu to compete.
" -  by FlyingBishop (1293238) on Friday October 23, @03:34PM (#29850217)Guys: Who CARES really (not coming down on you either FlyingB, &amp; here is why)?
It's great to see them ALL releasing BETTER &amp; MORE IMPROVED + MORE SOLID OS PRODUCTS, period... why?Well, I am here to say 1 thing, in that regards/on that note is why:E.G./I.E.-&gt; It's GOOD that there's "genetic diversity" out here in this art &amp; science/field, in that we have MacOS X, Linux, &amp; yes, Microsoft Windows NT-based/derived OS.I say that, because it is VERY much like "genetic diversity", because let's say some "plague/virus" were to hit us as human beings, &amp; took out EVERY "white person", but did not 'take out/take down' others such as orientals &amp; blacks etc.
et al - there would STILL BE PEOPLE, even if 1 branch of humanity were to fall victim to such a thing.The same idea extends itself here, to computing, imo really (for what it's worth).I am also here to say another thing, about Windows 7:PEOPLE: IT ROCKS!I've been using it here now for 2-3 days in 64-bit form, &amp; it absolutely IS what Windows should always have been: Microsoft's got a REAL "HIT" on their hands this round, &amp; they've done the job, right... really right.
(And, sure: I "yelled @ them" on their forums, &amp; repeatedly around here, about HOSTS files not being able to use 0 as a blocking IP address in VISTA onwards (since the 12/09/2008 security patch that disabled that &amp; made it less efficient), but know what else?So, far??
It appears MICROSOFT DID LISTEN to my 'bitching about it' to they @ their "Engineering Windows" blog:-----Engineering Windows 7 blog @ MS, &amp; my points on HOSTS files + what rootkit.com said about the new single part/single layer defense system in VISTA onwards (vs the 3 part one in Server 2003 &amp; below):http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/02/25/feedback-and-engineering-windows-7.aspx-----
  (Steven Sinofsky of MS runs or reads it afaik, &amp; he is the head of that project iirc).Well, like usual online?A lot of people gave me shit about it there, &amp; HERE TOO... but guess what?
?Microsoft DID fix that also!I say this because after 2-3 days time testing it now, I am using a "0" based faster &amp; MORE EFFICIENT, successfully!
(AND, anyone can test in a listbox load of it even, that it is faster the smaller a file is, when line for line read until cr+lf or null terminated strings from a file trailer record hits etc.
).Mine's a HOSTS file with over 660,000 known bogus sites &amp;/or adbanners servers + malware servers or botnet control servers addresses in it (for BOTH added speed, AND security), &amp; on Windows 7, it's WORKING AGAIN (was a BIG "sticking point" for me &amp; I was not going to buy in to Win7 because of it, in part) successfully!I.E.-&gt; A 0 based HOSTS is working now, where it did NOT on VISTA, &amp; it's blocking adbanners (which have been known to host malware for years now too mind you) &amp; known bad sites, perfectly, &amp; using the line-by-line faster 0 blocking smaller/faster "IP Address" (resolves back to 0.0.0.0 though out of local DNS cache) &amp; technically can even avoid the hex-to-decimal conversion that the larger &amp; slower 0.0.0.0 + even worse 127.0.0.1 "loopback adapter" use (slower line by line read up from HOSTS on disk into memory).My point in noting this?
SIMPLE:Microsoft, despite ALL the "Anti-MS" &amp; "Anti-Windows" sentiments around here (especially around here @ /., moreso than anywhere else online that I have seen @ least),  &amp; in my own points mentioned to they here, @ their MS websites/blogs, &amp; the Register -&gt; http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/04/windows\_launch\_parties/comments/etc.
et al?Well - MS has proven to us all, that on the security front @ least (which they do take seriously &amp; should, heck Windows Defender &amp; MS Security Essentials being FREE too are evidences further thereof &amp; they are pretty good too) that they ARE &amp; DO LISTEN to us "geek freaks"... which is great - &amp; it's making for a BETTER PRODUCT, period.I'd like to leave here with one sentiment, &amp; that's to do what I did: Try Windows 7, &amp; especially in 64-bit form, because it IS "that good".
(I.E.-&gt; I was "stuck" on Windows Server 2003 SP#2 + hotfixes, because it was the "best Windows going" imo &amp; also experience (15++ yrs.
of it as a pro in this field))Like most things in "complex engineering" of any kind, round #1 is often the 'debug phase'... &amp; VISTA was just the "prototype experiment" of the "shape of things to come", &amp; now, finally??
Hell, I have to say it:Congratulations Microsoft, &amp; on your job with Windows 7!APKP.S.=&gt; And, it is GOOD also, to see that the *NIX folks are improving their lot too - because like I said above?
It's about "genetic diversity" &amp; not only on the grounds I note above (in this case, not a human disease plague, but vs. malware etc.
) - so, if 1 of our fav.
tools in OS' does somehow get "nuked for good" (not possible imo, but, one never knows either)?
Others will still be standing.Another thing I am slowly migrating to, as I can (where it is possible &amp; available that is), is 64-bit ports of Win32 apps - Yes, even though I have said before to friends online of mine that "I don't need 64-bit apps, because I don't have 4gb++ sized sourcecode files or documents, &amp; nor do I run an Exchange Server" (things that REALLY show HUGE gains by that much memory addresseability), what do I need 64-bit for?
"I have seen, in the case of WinRAR @ least (running on an INTEL I7 Core 920, + 3gb RAM)?
It DOES RUN BETTER/FASTER on rars/unrars... not "hugely", but it IS perceptible - so, even I can "change" &amp; 'see the light' that the 'way to go' is 64-bit, even IF you don't have apps that regularly address that much memory or need it.
The gains are small, but, there nevertheless!Said all I had to, now waiting for the "Pro-*NIX brigade" here to come 'take pot shots @ me', like usual, lol...(Not always, but... Mostly they do (understandeable - MS is competition to they, so they defend *NIX because it's their livelyhood, right or wrong, they defend it - only thing is?
I don't think they understand that I like &amp; use them all or have over time))I state the above here, because it does happen, however it is also not always that case, whenever I post something "Pro-Windows" that is - sometimes folks "mod up" points I make too as well.However, as I noted above?
Well - I don't always either - as in the case with my 'rants' here for months about HOSTS files &amp; what the folks @ ROOTKIT.COM found in the new Windows firewall being easier to "unhook" than the older 3 part model Windows Server 2003 &amp; below used (ipfltdrv.sys, ipsec.sys, &amp; ipnat.sys) which worked @ 3 diff.
layers around tcpip.sys &amp; the entire IP Stack, much how a "zone defense/greek phalanx" works (take 1 guard down?
The other 2 'back him up' type thinking, or why folks use a deadbolt lock + chainlock + doorknob lock as "layered security")...Time for me to get back to my JAVA now though... hope you like the read, &amp; to the "Penguins/BSD Devils/MacOS folks"?
Try to swallow your pride, &amp; be cool about this - &amp; realize that MS deserves a HUGE congratulations on Windows 7... it is, THAT good, &amp; a large improvement on VISTA, bigtime!
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850187</id>
	<title>Re:Still some very important stuff to fix</title>
	<author>tjwhaynes</author>
	<datestamp>1256329920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That bug 452518 is already committed for the actual release.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That bug 452518 is already committed for the actual release .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That bug 452518 is already committed for the actual release.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850001</id>
	<title>Still some very important stuff to fix</title>
	<author>rumith</author>
	<datestamp>1256329200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Such as <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/452518" title="launchpad.net">bug 452518</a> [launchpad.net] (saving MS Word format documents using Open Office KDE shipped with Kubuntu 9.10 can result in corrupted files). <br> However, the list of great features planned for this release is amazing! Ubuntu is no longer "Debian with a graphical installer and brown theme", it has become a pretty interesting distro on its own merit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Such as bug 452518 [ launchpad.net ] ( saving MS Word format documents using Open Office KDE shipped with Kubuntu 9.10 can result in corrupted files ) .
However , the list of great features planned for this release is amazing !
Ubuntu is no longer " Debian with a graphical installer and brown theme " , it has become a pretty interesting distro on its own merit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Such as bug 452518 [launchpad.net] (saving MS Word format documents using Open Office KDE shipped with Kubuntu 9.10 can result in corrupted files).
However, the list of great features planned for this release is amazing!
Ubuntu is no longer "Debian with a graphical installer and brown theme", it has become a pretty interesting distro on its own merit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850093</id>
	<title>What Do the Status Colors Mean?</title>
	<author>Doc Ruby</author>
	<datestamp>1256329500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule" title="ubuntu.com">KarmicReleaseSchedule</a> [ubuntu.com] shows that 10/22/2009 was the scheduled date for releasing a Release Candidate, so the project is on schedule. But what do the colors in the Status column mean? Just escalating "hotness" (excitement) as the final release date approaches?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The KarmicReleaseSchedule [ ubuntu.com ] shows that 10/22/2009 was the scheduled date for releasing a Release Candidate , so the project is on schedule .
But what do the colors in the Status column mean ?
Just escalating " hotness " ( excitement ) as the final release date approaches ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The KarmicReleaseSchedule [ubuntu.com] shows that 10/22/2009 was the scheduled date for releasing a Release Candidate, so the project is on schedule.
But what do the colors in the Status column mean?
Just escalating "hotness" (excitement) as the final release date approaches?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850563</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256331360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Ubuntu release made news on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. the DAY AFTER it happened.  If that doesn't speak volumes as to the relative importance of the two events, nothing does.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Ubuntu release made news on / .
the DAY AFTER it happened .
If that does n't speak volumes as to the relative importance of the two events , nothing does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Ubuntu release made news on /.
the DAY AFTER it happened.
If that doesn't speak volumes as to the relative importance of the two events, nothing does.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850811</id>
	<title>Kinky Kitty</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256289060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Darn it I wanted the Kinky Kitty edition<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p><p>-Jessica-</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Darn it I wanted the Kinky Kitty edition : ( -Jessica-</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Darn it I wanted the Kinky Kitty edition :(-Jessica-</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851869</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>Draek</author>
	<datestamp>1256293440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Microsoft would have to be certifiably insane to consider Ubuntu even a marginal form of competition.</p></div><p>Prove it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Even if they weren't light years ahead in other areas of usability,</p></div><p>Prove it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Microsoft *are* ahead of Ubuntu in at least one, basic, critical area. Stable hardware support that actually works.</p></div><p>Prove it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>You know, as in sound support that doesn't die every few hours, or graphics drivers that don't intermittently cause kernel panics.</p></div><p>Prove it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Seriously, Linux users who try and claim that any Linux distribution has any remotely conceivable chance of legitimately competing with either Microsoft or Apple at this point, literally leave me gasping. The amount denial and delusion engaged in is mind boggling.</p></div><p>Prove there's any "delusion" or "denial" involved. Also, if I were you I'd go see a doctor for that gasping.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Ubuntu reached a point, once, where I thought that could eventually become true; but since Hardy, Canonical have blown it completely.</p></div><p>Prove it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Prove me wrong, Linux users.</p></div><p>Prove yourself right first.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Microsoft would have to be certifiably insane to consider Ubuntu even a marginal form of competition.Prove it.Even if they were n't light years ahead in other areas of usability,Prove it.Microsoft * are * ahead of Ubuntu in at least one , basic , critical area .
Stable hardware support that actually works.Prove it.You know , as in sound support that does n't die every few hours , or graphics drivers that do n't intermittently cause kernel panics.Prove it.Seriously , Linux users who try and claim that any Linux distribution has any remotely conceivable chance of legitimately competing with either Microsoft or Apple at this point , literally leave me gasping .
The amount denial and delusion engaged in is mind boggling.Prove there 's any " delusion " or " denial " involved .
Also , if I were you I 'd go see a doctor for that gasping.Ubuntu reached a point , once , where I thought that could eventually become true ; but since Hardy , Canonical have blown it completely.Prove it.Prove me wrong , Linux users.Prove yourself right first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft would have to be certifiably insane to consider Ubuntu even a marginal form of competition.Prove it.Even if they weren't light years ahead in other areas of usability,Prove it.Microsoft *are* ahead of Ubuntu in at least one, basic, critical area.
Stable hardware support that actually works.Prove it.You know, as in sound support that doesn't die every few hours, or graphics drivers that don't intermittently cause kernel panics.Prove it.Seriously, Linux users who try and claim that any Linux distribution has any remotely conceivable chance of legitimately competing with either Microsoft or Apple at this point, literally leave me gasping.
The amount denial and delusion engaged in is mind boggling.Prove there's any "delusion" or "denial" involved.
Also, if I were you I'd go see a doctor for that gasping.Ubuntu reached a point, once, where I thought that could eventually become true; but since Hardy, Canonical have blown it completely.Prove it.Prove me wrong, Linux users.Prove yourself right first.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850821</id>
	<title>It's ok</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256289120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Karmic Koala is fine, but I just can't wait for Masterbating Monkey to be released!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Karmic Koala is fine , but I just ca n't wait for Masterbating Monkey to be released !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Karmic Koala is fine, but I just can't wait for Masterbating Monkey to be released!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851751</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>g8oz</author>
	<datestamp>1256292840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I accuse you of none of those things. Instead I accuse you of trying to pass off cynicism as insight.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I accuse you of none of those things .
Instead I accuse you of trying to pass off cynicism as insight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I accuse you of none of those things.
Instead I accuse you of trying to pass off cynicism as insight.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850845</id>
	<title>Re:Netbook version</title>
	<author>Minwee</author>
	<datestamp>1256289240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The U2400 is either <a href="http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL99W" title="intel.com">a low power Core 2 Duo CPU from Intel</a> [intel.com] or <a href="http://www.x86-guide.com/en/cpu/VIA-Nano-U2400-cpu-no3341.html" title="x86-guide.com">a Nano CPU from VIA</a> [x86-guide.com].  The Mini 5100 uses an <a href="http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=41411" title="intel.com">Atom N280</a> [intel.com], which is a different processor entirely.  While all three are supported quite well by Linux, none of them do much for wireless networking.
</p><p>What you probably have is an <a href="http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06c/A10-51210-1130359-1130363-1130359-3788189-3788190-3788196.html" title="hp.com">HP un2400</a> [hp.com] (USB ID 03f0:201d), which uses the Qualcomm GOBI chipset.  You'll need the <a href="http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/USB\_SERIAL\_QUALCOMM.html" title="cateee.net">qcserial</a> [cateee.net] module to run it, and that is included in the 2.6.31 kernel which ships with Ubuntu 9.10.  I can't speak for how easy it will be to use, but support is in the kernel and will be installed by default if you upgrade to The Koala.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The U2400 is either a low power Core 2 Duo CPU from Intel [ intel.com ] or a Nano CPU from VIA [ x86-guide.com ] .
The Mini 5100 uses an Atom N280 [ intel.com ] , which is a different processor entirely .
While all three are supported quite well by Linux , none of them do much for wireless networking .
What you probably have is an HP un2400 [ hp.com ] ( USB ID 03f0 : 201d ) , which uses the Qualcomm GOBI chipset .
You 'll need the qcserial [ cateee.net ] module to run it , and that is included in the 2.6.31 kernel which ships with Ubuntu 9.10 .
I ca n't speak for how easy it will be to use , but support is in the kernel and will be installed by default if you upgrade to The Koala .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The U2400 is either a low power Core 2 Duo CPU from Intel [intel.com] or a Nano CPU from VIA [x86-guide.com].
The Mini 5100 uses an Atom N280 [intel.com], which is a different processor entirely.
While all three are supported quite well by Linux, none of them do much for wireless networking.
What you probably have is an HP un2400 [hp.com] (USB ID 03f0:201d), which uses the Qualcomm GOBI chipset.
You'll need the qcserial [cateee.net] module to run it, and that is included in the 2.6.31 kernel which ships with Ubuntu 9.10.
I can't speak for how easy it will be to use, but support is in the kernel and will be installed by default if you upgrade to The Koala.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29853311</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>Yfrwlf</author>
	<datestamp>1256305560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Each OS has its share of problems, but claiming that one vastly overshadows the other as a whole is silly.

<br> <br>IMO, Windows has mainly two things going for it over Linux, games and GUI tools.  Since Windows has always been GUI-focused, Microsoft has created ways of doing most anything you'd need to have done in a GUI.  Of course, this means that automation and the command line tools have been sorely lacking, though this is changing with Microsoft's importation/duplication/copying of various Linux/Unix tools in their newer versions, probably mostly the result of their "Linux Lab" work.  Because if the power of automation on Linux, it has been a very strong server market contender, but needs to be careful since "lazy" server administrators are liking GUIs and the overhead of GUIs is less important now days I think.  So, after disabling all the visual effects of Vista 7 and basically making the desktop be Windows 2000 again, there is an appeal of the Windows *desktop* over the Linux *desktop* for server administrators in some ways.  Linux server administration tools are definitely out there and becoming more common, but I think this is an area Linux needs to step up its game still.<br> <br>

In the games realm, from what I've seen it seems there has been more of an effort in making games cross-platform thanks to competition from Linux and Mac.  Linux continues to spread virally and along with desktop improvements are making cross-platform OpenGL games more appealing to developers.  With the push to the browser as a platform, this really helps Linux as well, and is also good for combating the above-mentioned competition in the server area, too.<br> <br>

All in all, Linux has a very bright future, but should never give up on pushing against Windows in the ways where it still holds advantages, and it won't give up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Each OS has its share of problems , but claiming that one vastly overshadows the other as a whole is silly .
IMO , Windows has mainly two things going for it over Linux , games and GUI tools .
Since Windows has always been GUI-focused , Microsoft has created ways of doing most anything you 'd need to have done in a GUI .
Of course , this means that automation and the command line tools have been sorely lacking , though this is changing with Microsoft 's importation/duplication/copying of various Linux/Unix tools in their newer versions , probably mostly the result of their " Linux Lab " work .
Because if the power of automation on Linux , it has been a very strong server market contender , but needs to be careful since " lazy " server administrators are liking GUIs and the overhead of GUIs is less important now days I think .
So , after disabling all the visual effects of Vista 7 and basically making the desktop be Windows 2000 again , there is an appeal of the Windows * desktop * over the Linux * desktop * for server administrators in some ways .
Linux server administration tools are definitely out there and becoming more common , but I think this is an area Linux needs to step up its game still .
In the games realm , from what I 've seen it seems there has been more of an effort in making games cross-platform thanks to competition from Linux and Mac .
Linux continues to spread virally and along with desktop improvements are making cross-platform OpenGL games more appealing to developers .
With the push to the browser as a platform , this really helps Linux as well , and is also good for combating the above-mentioned competition in the server area , too .
All in all , Linux has a very bright future , but should never give up on pushing against Windows in the ways where it still holds advantages , and it wo n't give up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Each OS has its share of problems, but claiming that one vastly overshadows the other as a whole is silly.
IMO, Windows has mainly two things going for it over Linux, games and GUI tools.
Since Windows has always been GUI-focused, Microsoft has created ways of doing most anything you'd need to have done in a GUI.
Of course, this means that automation and the command line tools have been sorely lacking, though this is changing with Microsoft's importation/duplication/copying of various Linux/Unix tools in their newer versions, probably mostly the result of their "Linux Lab" work.
Because if the power of automation on Linux, it has been a very strong server market contender, but needs to be careful since "lazy" server administrators are liking GUIs and the overhead of GUIs is less important now days I think.
So, after disabling all the visual effects of Vista 7 and basically making the desktop be Windows 2000 again, there is an appeal of the Windows *desktop* over the Linux *desktop* for server administrators in some ways.
Linux server administration tools are definitely out there and becoming more common, but I think this is an area Linux needs to step up its game still.
In the games realm, from what I've seen it seems there has been more of an effort in making games cross-platform thanks to competition from Linux and Mac.
Linux continues to spread virally and along with desktop improvements are making cross-platform OpenGL games more appealing to developers.
With the push to the browser as a platform, this really helps Linux as well, and is also good for combating the above-mentioned competition in the server area, too.
All in all, Linux has a very bright future, but should never give up on pushing against Windows in the ways where it still holds advantages, and it won't give up.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29853259</id>
	<title>Re:I suspect Ubuntu would be more popular ...</title>
	<author>jeffstar</author>
	<datestamp>1256305020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>then call it Ubuntu 9.10.</p><p>The idiot names are great keywords for google when searching for an issue for a particular version. Makes sure you don't end up with issues from 10 year old releases in your search results.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>then call it Ubuntu 9.10.The idiot names are great keywords for google when searching for an issue for a particular version .
Makes sure you do n't end up with issues from 10 year old releases in your search results .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>then call it Ubuntu 9.10.The idiot names are great keywords for google when searching for an issue for a particular version.
Makes sure you don't end up with issues from 10 year old releases in your search results.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850283</id>
	<title>RC for only a week?</title>
	<author>gravis777</author>
	<datestamp>1256330340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't the point of a release candidate to give people enough time time to make sure a product is stable and ready for prime time release, and to fix issues should they arise? Wouldn't an OS, with a whole slew of apps, require a bit mroe than a week for this? I mean, a release of Firefox is usually in RC for several weeks, if not months, before it goes from RC to official release.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't the point of a release candidate to give people enough time time to make sure a product is stable and ready for prime time release , and to fix issues should they arise ?
Would n't an OS , with a whole slew of apps , require a bit mroe than a week for this ?
I mean , a release of Firefox is usually in RC for several weeks , if not months , before it goes from RC to official release .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't the point of a release candidate to give people enough time time to make sure a product is stable and ready for prime time release, and to fix issues should they arise?
Wouldn't an OS, with a whole slew of apps, require a bit mroe than a week for this?
I mean, a release of Firefox is usually in RC for several weeks, if not months, before it goes from RC to official release.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29861643</id>
	<title>Ximian....?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256398080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What are you doing in there?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What are you doing in there ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are you doing in there?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850821</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29852867</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>ignavus</author>
	<datestamp>1256301060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Ubuntu's fall release date<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>Ubuntu comes from South Africa. That's, like, in the Southern Hemisphere.</p><p>October is Spring here in this half of the world.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubuntu 's fall release date ...Ubuntu comes from South Africa .
That 's , like , in the Southern Hemisphere.October is Spring here in this half of the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ubuntu's fall release date ...Ubuntu comes from South Africa.
That's, like, in the Southern Hemisphere.October is Spring here in this half of the world.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850217</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29854199</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1256318160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really?  Show me the hardware that you can buy and get the Mac like experience with Linux.</p><p>Where I just turn it on, finish the initial setup, start playing dvds, making movies and burning them to DVDs, checking my mail on Google, Yahoo, my own imap servers, auto connecting to wifi as I roam around with my laptop, synchronizing my settings with my offsite backup (mobileme), playing The Sims 3, Civ4, and Rollercoaster Tycoon 3, sync my iPhone, ect ect ect.</p><p>You may be able to show me some hardware that is stable with some generic software, but it won't do what the Mac can do.</p><p>Linux needs to stop trying to copy everyone else and be itself.  There are plenty of good reasons to run Linux.  Trying to sell it as a Windows or OS X replacement is going to result in a failure.</p><p>Stop trying to compete on someone elses turf, do it on your own, where you actually ARE better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really ?
Show me the hardware that you can buy and get the Mac like experience with Linux.Where I just turn it on , finish the initial setup , start playing dvds , making movies and burning them to DVDs , checking my mail on Google , Yahoo , my own imap servers , auto connecting to wifi as I roam around with my laptop , synchronizing my settings with my offsite backup ( mobileme ) , playing The Sims 3 , Civ4 , and Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 , sync my iPhone , ect ect ect.You may be able to show me some hardware that is stable with some generic software , but it wo n't do what the Mac can do.Linux needs to stop trying to copy everyone else and be itself .
There are plenty of good reasons to run Linux .
Trying to sell it as a Windows or OS X replacement is going to result in a failure.Stop trying to compete on someone elses turf , do it on your own , where you actually ARE better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really?
Show me the hardware that you can buy and get the Mac like experience with Linux.Where I just turn it on, finish the initial setup, start playing dvds, making movies and burning them to DVDs, checking my mail on Google, Yahoo, my own imap servers, auto connecting to wifi as I roam around with my laptop, synchronizing my settings with my offsite backup (mobileme), playing The Sims 3, Civ4, and Rollercoaster Tycoon 3, sync my iPhone, ect ect ect.You may be able to show me some hardware that is stable with some generic software, but it won't do what the Mac can do.Linux needs to stop trying to copy everyone else and be itself.
There are plenty of good reasons to run Linux.
Trying to sell it as a Windows or OS X replacement is going to result in a failure.Stop trying to compete on someone elses turf, do it on your own, where you actually ARE better.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851029</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851927</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>downhole</author>
	<datestamp>1256293800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do have mod points, but I'd rather ask to your (virtual) face: WTF are you talking about? On exactly what hardware did you see these issues? I use Ubuntu on my main computer and have tried it on several others for a few days. I've never seen the sound support dying every few hours or the graphics drivers causing kernel panics or anything catastrophic like that. I'll grant that graphics support on Linux does need some work still, especially in the areas of using 2D/3D acceleration properly, but every system that I've used it on so far has been worked fine for applications other than hardcore gaming.</p><p>I've used Macs, Windows, and Linux plenty. In my experience, they all have their annoying issues - Windows isn't exactly free of hardware issues either (get ready to hunt down all the drivers you need if you aren't using a factory config), and MacOS is only available on limited hardware with nothing available in the range I'm looking for. Ubuntu did a pretty impressive job of loading good drivers for all of my hardware out of the box. And I like that I can grab a free app to do almost anything common off of the repositories, have it installed automatically, and never worry about viruses, spyware, etc. And there are pretty good free apps to do almost everything I need right out of the box.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do have mod points , but I 'd rather ask to your ( virtual ) face : WTF are you talking about ?
On exactly what hardware did you see these issues ?
I use Ubuntu on my main computer and have tried it on several others for a few days .
I 've never seen the sound support dying every few hours or the graphics drivers causing kernel panics or anything catastrophic like that .
I 'll grant that graphics support on Linux does need some work still , especially in the areas of using 2D/3D acceleration properly , but every system that I 've used it on so far has been worked fine for applications other than hardcore gaming.I 've used Macs , Windows , and Linux plenty .
In my experience , they all have their annoying issues - Windows is n't exactly free of hardware issues either ( get ready to hunt down all the drivers you need if you are n't using a factory config ) , and MacOS is only available on limited hardware with nothing available in the range I 'm looking for .
Ubuntu did a pretty impressive job of loading good drivers for all of my hardware out of the box .
And I like that I can grab a free app to do almost anything common off of the repositories , have it installed automatically , and never worry about viruses , spyware , etc .
And there are pretty good free apps to do almost everything I need right out of the box .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do have mod points, but I'd rather ask to your (virtual) face: WTF are you talking about?
On exactly what hardware did you see these issues?
I use Ubuntu on my main computer and have tried it on several others for a few days.
I've never seen the sound support dying every few hours or the graphics drivers causing kernel panics or anything catastrophic like that.
I'll grant that graphics support on Linux does need some work still, especially in the areas of using 2D/3D acceleration properly, but every system that I've used it on so far has been worked fine for applications other than hardcore gaming.I've used Macs, Windows, and Linux plenty.
In my experience, they all have their annoying issues - Windows isn't exactly free of hardware issues either (get ready to hunt down all the drivers you need if you aren't using a factory config), and MacOS is only available on limited hardware with nothing available in the range I'm looking for.
Ubuntu did a pretty impressive job of loading good drivers for all of my hardware out of the box.
And I like that I can grab a free app to do almost anything common off of the repositories, have it installed automatically, and never worry about viruses, spyware, etc.
And there are pretty good free apps to do almost everything I need right out of the box.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850627</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29853425</id>
	<title>Other than easy setup, any advantage over Debian?</title>
	<author>walterbyrd</author>
	<datestamp>1256306640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been using Debian for years. I'm thinking about buying a new PC, if there any BFDs this black friday.</p><p>I suppose Ubuntu gives me an easier setup, although I have no problem setting up debian. I suppose Unbuntu also gives me a live cd. Anything else?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using Debian for years .
I 'm thinking about buying a new PC , if there any BFDs this black friday.I suppose Ubuntu gives me an easier setup , although I have no problem setting up debian .
I suppose Unbuntu also gives me a live cd .
Anything else ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using Debian for years.
I'm thinking about buying a new PC, if there any BFDs this black friday.I suppose Ubuntu gives me an easier setup, although I have no problem setting up debian.
I suppose Unbuntu also gives me a live cd.
Anything else?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851781</id>
	<title>I suspect Ubuntu would be more popular ...</title>
	<author>xerxesnine</author>
	<datestamp>1256293020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>... without the goddamn fucking stupid idiot names.

The name Karmic Koala suggests a toy OS, a hobby OS, or an OS developed by people no motherfucking common sense.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... without the goddamn fucking stupid idiot names .
The name Karmic Koala suggests a toy OS , a hobby OS , or an OS developed by people no motherfucking common sense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... without the goddamn fucking stupid idiot names.
The name Karmic Koala suggests a toy OS, a hobby OS, or an OS developed by people no motherfucking common sense.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851053</id>
	<title>Perfect.</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1256289960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>User 1: "You got Ubuntu in my Windows 7!"<br>User 2: "No, you got Windows 7 in my Ubuntu!"<br>User 1: "Hey, this actually isn't too bad."<br>User 2: "Yeah, the rash clears up pretty quickly, then you're good to go."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>User 1 : " You got Ubuntu in my Windows 7 !
" User 2 : " No , you got Windows 7 in my Ubuntu !
" User 1 : " Hey , this actually is n't too bad .
" User 2 : " Yeah , the rash clears up pretty quickly , then you 're good to go .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>User 1: "You got Ubuntu in my Windows 7!
"User 2: "No, you got Windows 7 in my Ubuntu!
"User 1: "Hey, this actually isn't too bad.
"User 2: "Yeah, the rash clears up pretty quickly, then you're good to go.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29853809</id>
	<title>Re:I'm still waiting for</title>
	<author>agnosticnixie</author>
	<datestamp>1256311860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then we see the nonstandard characters like germanic eth, or weird diacritics.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then we see the nonstandard characters like germanic eth , or weird diacritics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then we see the nonstandard characters like germanic eth, or weird diacritics.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851673</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29864253</id>
	<title>Re:RC for only a week?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256482680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, the point of a Release Candidate is to make sure that the system integration is tight, nothing got left<br>out by accident, that stuff's spelled correctly. The OS, with a whole slew of apps, should have been stabilized<br>during the Beta test period. This includes making sure that the boot-path stuff works correctly, etc. and that the<br>bugs fixed during Beta were indeed fixed as anticipated and that there are no unanticipated corner-of-the-envelope<br>interaction problems arising from simultaneous last-minute bug fixes.</p><p>Just because Firefox, which is an application that doesn't have to worry about hardware drivers or network stacks<br>per se, does it one way that an operating system should do so also. I did a lot of operating system QC for a living,<br>and there's a lot to system integration that doesn't meet the eye necessarily...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , the point of a Release Candidate is to make sure that the system integration is tight , nothing got leftout by accident , that stuff 's spelled correctly .
The OS , with a whole slew of apps , should have been stabilizedduring the Beta test period .
This includes making sure that the boot-path stuff works correctly , etc .
and that thebugs fixed during Beta were indeed fixed as anticipated and that there are no unanticipated corner-of-the-envelopeinteraction problems arising from simultaneous last-minute bug fixes.Just because Firefox , which is an application that does n't have to worry about hardware drivers or network stacksper se , does it one way that an operating system should do so also .
I did a lot of operating system QC for a living,and there 's a lot to system integration that does n't meet the eye necessarily.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, the point of a Release Candidate is to make sure that the system integration is tight, nothing got leftout by accident, that stuff's spelled correctly.
The OS, with a whole slew of apps, should have been stabilizedduring the Beta test period.
This includes making sure that the boot-path stuff works correctly, etc.
and that thebugs fixed during Beta were indeed fixed as anticipated and that there are no unanticipated corner-of-the-envelopeinteraction problems arising from simultaneous last-minute bug fixes.Just because Firefox, which is an application that doesn't have to worry about hardware drivers or network stacksper se, does it one way that an operating system should do so also.
I did a lot of operating system QC for a living,and there's a lot to system integration that doesn't meet the eye necessarily...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850283</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851555</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>orzetto</author>
	<datestamp>1256291880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Even if they weren't light years ahead in other areas of usability, Microsoft *are* ahead of Ubuntu in at least one, basic, critical area. Stable hardware support that actually works. You know, as in sound support that doesn't die every few hours, or graphics drivers that don't intermittently cause kernel panics.</p></div></blockquote><blockquote><div><p>Prove me wrong, Linux users.</p></div></blockquote><p>Running on Kubuntu now. I have been using Kubuntu at work, home and on my netbook for the last three years, and I changed jobs in the meantime. My list of issues:</p><ul>
<li>In 2007 (I think it was Feisty) the NVidia driver did not support Xinerama, so no rotating cube on my two monitors at work. Fixed in Gutsy.</li><li>Running on Karmic beta, cryptsetup would not halt the accelerated bootup process, giving me no time to type the passphrase to my encrypted volume. Had to do it after bootup. Fixed with RC.</li><li>Running on Karmic beta, PulseAudio died on me when I logged in for the second time. Fixed with RC.</li><li>Running on Karmic beta, text consoles (not emulators, the Ctrl-Alt-Fn ones) did not work due to kernel framebuffer issues. Fixed with RC.</li></ul><p>So really: only one cosmetic issue ages ago, and three minor issues that could be expected in a beta.</p><p>At my previous job, the Ubuntu server we used for SVN repository, internal wiki, and a bunch of other services lasted more than a year, and by this time more time than I ever was on that job, without a single reboot.</p><blockquote><div><p>This post will be down-modded to -1, Flamebait, Troll, or Overrated, [...]</p></div></blockquote><p>Would fit you well: you stated blatant falsehoods, talking about your personal feelings toward Linux (about which no one here nor elsewhere cares) with no argumentation nor facts whatsoever.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if they were n't light years ahead in other areas of usability , Microsoft * are * ahead of Ubuntu in at least one , basic , critical area .
Stable hardware support that actually works .
You know , as in sound support that does n't die every few hours , or graphics drivers that do n't intermittently cause kernel panics.Prove me wrong , Linux users.Running on Kubuntu now .
I have been using Kubuntu at work , home and on my netbook for the last three years , and I changed jobs in the meantime .
My list of issues : In 2007 ( I think it was Feisty ) the NVidia driver did not support Xinerama , so no rotating cube on my two monitors at work .
Fixed in Gutsy.Running on Karmic beta , cryptsetup would not halt the accelerated bootup process , giving me no time to type the passphrase to my encrypted volume .
Had to do it after bootup .
Fixed with RC.Running on Karmic beta , PulseAudio died on me when I logged in for the second time .
Fixed with RC.Running on Karmic beta , text consoles ( not emulators , the Ctrl-Alt-Fn ones ) did not work due to kernel framebuffer issues .
Fixed with RC.So really : only one cosmetic issue ages ago , and three minor issues that could be expected in a beta.At my previous job , the Ubuntu server we used for SVN repository , internal wiki , and a bunch of other services lasted more than a year , and by this time more time than I ever was on that job , without a single reboot.This post will be down-modded to -1 , Flamebait , Troll , or Overrated , [ ... ] Would fit you well : you stated blatant falsehoods , talking about your personal feelings toward Linux ( about which no one here nor elsewhere cares ) with no argumentation nor facts whatsoever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if they weren't light years ahead in other areas of usability, Microsoft *are* ahead of Ubuntu in at least one, basic, critical area.
Stable hardware support that actually works.
You know, as in sound support that doesn't die every few hours, or graphics drivers that don't intermittently cause kernel panics.Prove me wrong, Linux users.Running on Kubuntu now.
I have been using Kubuntu at work, home and on my netbook for the last three years, and I changed jobs in the meantime.
My list of issues:
In 2007 (I think it was Feisty) the NVidia driver did not support Xinerama, so no rotating cube on my two monitors at work.
Fixed in Gutsy.Running on Karmic beta, cryptsetup would not halt the accelerated bootup process, giving me no time to type the passphrase to my encrypted volume.
Had to do it after bootup.
Fixed with RC.Running on Karmic beta, PulseAudio died on me when I logged in for the second time.
Fixed with RC.Running on Karmic beta, text consoles (not emulators, the Ctrl-Alt-Fn ones) did not work due to kernel framebuffer issues.
Fixed with RC.So really: only one cosmetic issue ages ago, and three minor issues that could be expected in a beta.At my previous job, the Ubuntu server we used for SVN repository, internal wiki, and a bunch of other services lasted more than a year, and by this time more time than I ever was on that job, without a single reboot.This post will be down-modded to -1, Flamebait, Troll, or Overrated, [...]Would fit you well: you stated blatant falsehoods, talking about your personal feelings toward Linux (about which no one here nor elsewhere cares) with no argumentation nor facts whatsoever.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850627</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851631</id>
	<title>Notebook without Windows</title>
	<author>nostriluu</author>
	<datestamp>1256292180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's a way to get a Thinkpad without Vista on it from the Lenovo site, haven't tried it recently but it worked a month ago. Change the CPU in any system to a Celeron, then select the enabled Vista Starter option (you know, for developing countries that would be confused by having a first world operating system). Then change the CPU to something real, and the OS changes to no charge DOS. You can then place the order. I ordered a T400S using this technique.

Good luck!</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a way to get a Thinkpad without Vista on it from the Lenovo site , have n't tried it recently but it worked a month ago .
Change the CPU in any system to a Celeron , then select the enabled Vista Starter option ( you know , for developing countries that would be confused by having a first world operating system ) .
Then change the CPU to something real , and the OS changes to no charge DOS .
You can then place the order .
I ordered a T400S using this technique .
Good luck !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a way to get a Thinkpad without Vista on it from the Lenovo site, haven't tried it recently but it worked a month ago.
Change the CPU in any system to a Celeron, then select the enabled Vista Starter option (you know, for developing countries that would be confused by having a first world operating system).
Then change the CPU to something real, and the OS changes to no charge DOS.
You can then place the order.
I ordered a T400S using this technique.
Good luck!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849953</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851143</id>
	<title>Re:I'm still waiting for</title>
	<author>Shikaku</author>
	<datestamp>1256290260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Zomg Zonies!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Zomg Zonies !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Zomg Zonies!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850189</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851381</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>drizek</author>
	<datestamp>1256291220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the October 22nd releasedate was most likely to d owith Windows 95 being released on October 25th. that would have been a sunday, so they did it on the last real weekday for maximum buzz.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the October 22nd releasedate was most likely to d owith Windows 95 being released on October 25th .
that would have been a sunday , so they did it on the last real weekday for maximum buzz .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the October 22nd releasedate was most likely to d owith Windows 95 being released on October 25th.
that would have been a sunday, so they did it on the last real weekday for maximum buzz.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850217</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850887</id>
	<title>Re:Would have been better</title>
	<author>palegray.net</author>
	<datestamp>1256289420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>People who are weighing the option of Windows 7 vs Ubuntu 9.10 as their primary OS are going to make their choice regardless of which one came out a week earlier.</p></div><p>To add to that, a lot of people weighing these two options also happen to be employed in positions where they make recommendations for what offices use on various systems.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>People who are weighing the option of Windows 7 vs Ubuntu 9.10 as their primary OS are going to make their choice regardless of which one came out a week earlier.To add to that , a lot of people weighing these two options also happen to be employed in positions where they make recommendations for what offices use on various systems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People who are weighing the option of Windows 7 vs Ubuntu 9.10 as their primary OS are going to make their choice regardless of which one came out a week earlier.To add to that, a lot of people weighing these two options also happen to be employed in positions where they make recommendations for what offices use on various systems.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850169</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29863355</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>Fruit</author>
	<datestamp>1256470560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If I was to say my biggest greatest annoyance with Linux, it's media plugins and flash in particular. If only Firefox would stop being so patent-freaky and decode H.264 <a href="http://ajaxian.com/archives/apple-html5-video" title="ajaxian.com">when it is available</a> [ajaxian.com] then we could kill flash and live happily ever after. *buntu seem perfectly capable of shipping a video player that'll use the x264 codec if installed, so should Firefox.</p></div><p>Can they send the bill to you when the lawsuit hits?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I was to say my biggest greatest annoyance with Linux , it 's media plugins and flash in particular .
If only Firefox would stop being so patent-freaky and decode H.264 when it is available [ ajaxian.com ] then we could kill flash and live happily ever after .
* buntu seem perfectly capable of shipping a video player that 'll use the x264 codec if installed , so should Firefox.Can they send the bill to you when the lawsuit hits ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I was to say my biggest greatest annoyance with Linux, it's media plugins and flash in particular.
If only Firefox would stop being so patent-freaky and decode H.264 when it is available [ajaxian.com] then we could kill flash and live happily ever after.
*buntu seem perfectly capable of shipping a video player that'll use the x264 codec if installed, so should Firefox.Can they send the bill to you when the lawsuit hits?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29861331</id>
	<title>Re:ubuntu is for niggas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256394720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And anyone else on the world with a computer, too!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And anyone else on the world with a computer , too !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And anyone else on the world with a computer, too!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849927</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850107</id>
	<title>Karmic Koala</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256329560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm running Xubuntu 9.10 on my laptop and it works great!</p><p>Seamless upgrade from 9.04 over breakfast this morning, even with full disk LUKS crypto. Works like a charm.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm running Xubuntu 9.10 on my laptop and it works great ! Seamless upgrade from 9.04 over breakfast this morning , even with full disk LUKS crypto .
Works like a charm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm running Xubuntu 9.10 on my laptop and it works great!Seamless upgrade from 9.04 over breakfast this morning, even with full disk LUKS crypto.
Works like a charm.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29852509</id>
	<title>Can someone answer this? re: ubuntu &amp; laptops</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1256297820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I love Ubuntu and have it on my desktop and netbook. I don't put it on my main laptop because, as I understand, it's had issues with killing the hard drive in laptops. I know they've implemented fixes and what not but I've yet to get a solid answer on whether this is definitely fixed. I just can not risk losing my hard drive when I may be away from home and unable to dump my work onto rsync.net or my home server.
<br> <br>
Can anyone find me some solid proof that this has been sorted? I'm still having odd issues with Ubuntu and WEP. It may be fine to say you should use WPA but I can't force everyone I interact with to use it and quite frankly it shouldn't be having issues when it's like the biggest distro around.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I love Ubuntu and have it on my desktop and netbook .
I do n't put it on my main laptop because , as I understand , it 's had issues with killing the hard drive in laptops .
I know they 've implemented fixes and what not but I 've yet to get a solid answer on whether this is definitely fixed .
I just can not risk losing my hard drive when I may be away from home and unable to dump my work onto rsync.net or my home server .
Can anyone find me some solid proof that this has been sorted ?
I 'm still having odd issues with Ubuntu and WEP .
It may be fine to say you should use WPA but I ca n't force everyone I interact with to use it and quite frankly it should n't be having issues when it 's like the biggest distro around .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love Ubuntu and have it on my desktop and netbook.
I don't put it on my main laptop because, as I understand, it's had issues with killing the hard drive in laptops.
I know they've implemented fixes and what not but I've yet to get a solid answer on whether this is definitely fixed.
I just can not risk losing my hard drive when I may be away from home and unable to dump my work onto rsync.net or my home server.
Can anyone find me some solid proof that this has been sorted?
I'm still having odd issues with Ubuntu and WEP.
It may be fine to say you should use WPA but I can't force everyone I interact with to use it and quite frankly it shouldn't be having issues when it's like the biggest distro around.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29852361</id>
	<title>KKK</title>
	<author>Lawand</author>
	<datestamp>1256296620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I guess I'll get shot for using the latest version of Kubuntu, Code-named Karmic Koala!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess I 'll get shot for using the latest version of Kubuntu , Code-named Karmic Koala !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess I'll get shot for using the latest version of Kubuntu, Code-named Karmic Koala!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850793</id>
	<title>K . . . L . . .M . . .</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256289000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In keeping with their convention of using animals in their release names, if they get some balls and name version 11.04 "No-good Nigger", then I'll make the switch.  Otherwise I'll stick with Windows, cuz it just werks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In keeping with their convention of using animals in their release names , if they get some balls and name version 11.04 " No-good Nigger " , then I 'll make the switch .
Otherwise I 'll stick with Windows , cuz it just werks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In keeping with their convention of using animals in their release names, if they get some balls and name version 11.04 "No-good Nigger", then I'll make the switch.
Otherwise I'll stick with Windows, cuz it just werks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850359</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849927</id>
	<title>ubuntu is for niggas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256328960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and fags</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and fags</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and fags</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29852371</id>
	<title>Ubuntu Software Center</title>
	<author>99BottlesOfBeerInMyF</author>
	<datestamp>1256296740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not many people are talking about the features. Number one on my list is the "Ubuntu Software Center" which is the initial version of what they plan to use as a centralized package manager and application store. The intention is for it to be the one and only location for software install, uninstall, and update. I've always felt package management was one area where Linux could really kick everyone else's butt if they could just polish it up, unify package types, and extend it to work with all software including commercial offerings. Maybe this will eventually morph into that.</p><p>I think it started as an attempt to merge the different package managers in use (currently spread across Add/Remove Applications, Synaptic Package Manager, Update Manager, Computer Janitor, and Software Sources applications). Then someone got the idea of copying the iPhone store, which fills a huge hole in Linux usability if they do it right. The only real question is how well they do it and how forward looking they are. The docs mention the potential of installing Windows apps into WINE using a later version of this manager, so maybe they're serious.</p><p>The other features that seem important here are the usability testing fixes from the extensive audit ongoing, the online services integration, the new default IM client, and the fixes for the audio system. It looks like they're really making some progress at least. Now if only they could get a few, small hardware vendors interested in selling cheap Linux boxes with it pre-installed and nicely tweaked for their hardware.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not many people are talking about the features .
Number one on my list is the " Ubuntu Software Center " which is the initial version of what they plan to use as a centralized package manager and application store .
The intention is for it to be the one and only location for software install , uninstall , and update .
I 've always felt package management was one area where Linux could really kick everyone else 's butt if they could just polish it up , unify package types , and extend it to work with all software including commercial offerings .
Maybe this will eventually morph into that.I think it started as an attempt to merge the different package managers in use ( currently spread across Add/Remove Applications , Synaptic Package Manager , Update Manager , Computer Janitor , and Software Sources applications ) .
Then someone got the idea of copying the iPhone store , which fills a huge hole in Linux usability if they do it right .
The only real question is how well they do it and how forward looking they are .
The docs mention the potential of installing Windows apps into WINE using a later version of this manager , so maybe they 're serious.The other features that seem important here are the usability testing fixes from the extensive audit ongoing , the online services integration , the new default IM client , and the fixes for the audio system .
It looks like they 're really making some progress at least .
Now if only they could get a few , small hardware vendors interested in selling cheap Linux boxes with it pre-installed and nicely tweaked for their hardware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not many people are talking about the features.
Number one on my list is the "Ubuntu Software Center" which is the initial version of what they plan to use as a centralized package manager and application store.
The intention is for it to be the one and only location for software install, uninstall, and update.
I've always felt package management was one area where Linux could really kick everyone else's butt if they could just polish it up, unify package types, and extend it to work with all software including commercial offerings.
Maybe this will eventually morph into that.I think it started as an attempt to merge the different package managers in use (currently spread across Add/Remove Applications, Synaptic Package Manager, Update Manager, Computer Janitor, and Software Sources applications).
Then someone got the idea of copying the iPhone store, which fills a huge hole in Linux usability if they do it right.
The only real question is how well they do it and how forward looking they are.
The docs mention the potential of installing Windows apps into WINE using a later version of this manager, so maybe they're serious.The other features that seem important here are the usability testing fixes from the extensive audit ongoing, the online services integration, the new default IM client, and the fixes for the audio system.
It looks like they're really making some progress at least.
Now if only they could get a few, small hardware vendors interested in selling cheap Linux boxes with it pre-installed and nicely tweaked for their hardware.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29853387</id>
	<title>Re:transparent system tray in awn</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256306340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or you could click that little help icon and learn how to remove one of the horizontal bars... or just right click it and play around for a few minutes...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or you could click that little help icon and learn how to remove one of the horizontal bars... or just right click it and play around for a few minutes.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or you could click that little help icon and learn how to remove one of the horizontal bars... or just right click it and play around for a few minutes...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850269</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851561</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256291880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use Ubuntu for some very simple reasons:<br>1: Microsoft's DRM angers me greatly.<br>2: Malware doesn't target me nearly as much as it does Windows users.<br>3: The GUI is good enough for me.  If Windows is better, I wouldn't notice.<br>4: I'm a command-line guy, and Linux distros are so much better than Windows for that.</p><p>So, yeah, you can choke all you want on your derisive laughter, but I honestly do perceive Ubuntu as being as good as Windows overall, given the set of things I'm concerned about.</p><p>I think a lot of OSes have reached a point where they're good enough for people with simple needs (web, e-mail, simple docs, audio/video play).  Having reached that point, why shouldn't they choose the one that's free and DRMless?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Ubuntu for some very simple reasons : 1 : Microsoft 's DRM angers me greatly.2 : Malware does n't target me nearly as much as it does Windows users.3 : The GUI is good enough for me .
If Windows is better , I would n't notice.4 : I 'm a command-line guy , and Linux distros are so much better than Windows for that.So , yeah , you can choke all you want on your derisive laughter , but I honestly do perceive Ubuntu as being as good as Windows overall , given the set of things I 'm concerned about.I think a lot of OSes have reached a point where they 're good enough for people with simple needs ( web , e-mail , simple docs , audio/video play ) .
Having reached that point , why should n't they choose the one that 's free and DRMless ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Ubuntu for some very simple reasons:1: Microsoft's DRM angers me greatly.2: Malware doesn't target me nearly as much as it does Windows users.3: The GUI is good enough for me.
If Windows is better, I wouldn't notice.4: I'm a command-line guy, and Linux distros are so much better than Windows for that.So, yeah, you can choke all you want on your derisive laughter, but I honestly do perceive Ubuntu as being as good as Windows overall, given the set of things I'm concerned about.I think a lot of OSes have reached a point where they're good enough for people with simple needs (web, e-mail, simple docs, audio/video play).
Having reached that point, why shouldn't they choose the one that's free and DRMless?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850627</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851209</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1256290560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>d) This post will be down-modded to -1, Flamebait, Troll, or Overrated, because I'm making statements which cause cognitive dissonance in Linux Youth.</p><p>Prove me wrong, Linux users.</p></div><p>Wow, that was a really convoluted way to get your post modded up. It was an OK post (that I don't wholly agree with) until you pulled out this old chestnut.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>d ) This post will be down-modded to -1 , Flamebait , Troll , or Overrated , because I 'm making statements which cause cognitive dissonance in Linux Youth.Prove me wrong , Linux users.Wow , that was a really convoluted way to get your post modded up .
It was an OK post ( that I do n't wholly agree with ) until you pulled out this old chestnut .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>d) This post will be down-modded to -1, Flamebait, Troll, or Overrated, because I'm making statements which cause cognitive dissonance in Linux Youth.Prove me wrong, Linux users.Wow, that was a really convoluted way to get your post modded up.
It was an OK post (that I don't wholly agree with) until you pulled out this old chestnut.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29853695</id>
	<title>Re:Need hardware!</title>
	<author>roguetrick</author>
	<datestamp>1256310060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Shameless plug, I'm writing this on a system76 notebook and couldn't be happier with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Shameless plug , I 'm writing this on a system76 notebook and could n't be happier with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shameless plug, I'm writing this on a system76 notebook and couldn't be happier with it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850183</id>
	<title>Re:Still some very important stuff to fix</title>
	<author>Dr. Manhattan</author>
	<datestamp>1256329920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>However, the list of great features planned for this release is amazing!</p></div></blockquote><p>
I'm looking forward to officially-supported <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU" title="wikipedia.org">VDPAU</a> [wikipedia.org]. Even with a moderately beefy Athlon X2, playback's a little jerky for 720p AVCHD movies from my camcorder. With some hacking and PPAs, I can get VDPAU working with 9.04, and it's <i>much</i> better - CPU usage massively reduced, yet smooth playback.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>However , the list of great features planned for this release is amazing !
I 'm looking forward to officially-supported VDPAU [ wikipedia.org ] .
Even with a moderately beefy Athlon X2 , playback 's a little jerky for 720p AVCHD movies from my camcorder .
With some hacking and PPAs , I can get VDPAU working with 9.04 , and it 's much better - CPU usage massively reduced , yet smooth playback .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>However, the list of great features planned for this release is amazing!
I'm looking forward to officially-supported VDPAU [wikipedia.org].
Even with a moderately beefy Athlon X2, playback's a little jerky for 720p AVCHD movies from my camcorder.
With some hacking and PPAs, I can get VDPAU working with 9.04, and it's much better - CPU usage massively reduced, yet smooth playback.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850001</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850217</id>
	<title>Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>FlyingBishop</author>
	<datestamp>1256330040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ubuntu's fall release date has been set in stone for years, the RC release date has been up since before Windows 7's release date was announced.</p><p>Microsoft is the company that chose to release Windows 7 on the same day as Ubuntu's release candidate, not the other way around. Seems like Microsoft wanted to overshadow and minimize the latest release of Ubuntu, and do so without actually permitting Ubuntu to compete.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubuntu 's fall release date has been set in stone for years , the RC release date has been up since before Windows 7 's release date was announced.Microsoft is the company that chose to release Windows 7 on the same day as Ubuntu 's release candidate , not the other way around .
Seems like Microsoft wanted to overshadow and minimize the latest release of Ubuntu , and do so without actually permitting Ubuntu to compete .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ubuntu's fall release date has been set in stone for years, the RC release date has been up since before Windows 7's release date was announced.Microsoft is the company that chose to release Windows 7 on the same day as Ubuntu's release candidate, not the other way around.
Seems like Microsoft wanted to overshadow and minimize the latest release of Ubuntu, and do so without actually permitting Ubuntu to compete.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29852223</id>
	<title>why everyone has to hop on the win7 train</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256295720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>even linux?</htmltext>
<tokenext>even linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>even linux?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29855453</id>
	<title>Re:Win7 wtf?!</title>
	<author>Teun</author>
	<datestamp>1256386860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why, oh why is this annexed with Windows 7. The release of either affects the other in no way what-so-ever. If Ubuntu beta/rc is not news worthy by itself, releasing on the same day with Win7 doesn't change that in any way. And yes, even one sentence about what's new in this would not hurt...</p></div><p>This is why:<br>
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/cschlaeger/JapanLinuxSymposium#5395400000458161906" title="google.com">http://picasaweb.google.com/cschlaeger/JapanLinuxSymposium#5395400000458161906</a> [google.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why , oh why is this annexed with Windows 7 .
The release of either affects the other in no way what-so-ever .
If Ubuntu beta/rc is not news worthy by itself , releasing on the same day with Win7 does n't change that in any way .
And yes , even one sentence about what 's new in this would not hurt...This is why : http : //picasaweb.google.com/cschlaeger/JapanLinuxSymposium # 5395400000458161906 [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why, oh why is this annexed with Windows 7.
The release of either affects the other in no way what-so-ever.
If Ubuntu beta/rc is not news worthy by itself, releasing on the same day with Win7 doesn't change that in any way.
And yes, even one sentence about what's new in this would not hurt...This is why:
http://picasaweb.google.com/cschlaeger/JapanLinuxSymposium#5395400000458161906 [google.com]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851597</id>
	<title>Nothing like ./ tards</title>
	<author>fluidbyte</author>
	<datestamp>1256292000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>How come 90\% of the comments are bitching and bickering when it comes to things like this.

Everyone tries to find the "best" OS - not gonna happen.

I use Ubuntu, I'm a web developer, it's very stable, easy to maintain, and supports all the software I need.
My design counterparts use Macs (go figure).
Our IT guy uses Gentoo because he has all the tools he needs, and the know-how to run the fucker.
The office administrative staff uses Windows XP because it's stable and supports what they do.
And my boss uses Windows 98 because he's stubborn and old.

You know what? They all suck in some manner - I can't run my apps on the designer's systems, and visa versa, the admin staff would have an anurism trying to use *nix, and the IT guy wouldn't be nearly as productive on Windows. That being said they're also very useful in their respective places.

Stop bitching, use whatever you like and helps you in your work (if you have a job and don't live in your mom's basement), and maybe try to find the positive in something? Like diversity, competition? Maybe? Yeah?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How come 90 \ % of the comments are bitching and bickering when it comes to things like this .
Everyone tries to find the " best " OS - not gon na happen .
I use Ubuntu , I 'm a web developer , it 's very stable , easy to maintain , and supports all the software I need .
My design counterparts use Macs ( go figure ) .
Our IT guy uses Gentoo because he has all the tools he needs , and the know-how to run the fucker .
The office administrative staff uses Windows XP because it 's stable and supports what they do .
And my boss uses Windows 98 because he 's stubborn and old .
You know what ?
They all suck in some manner - I ca n't run my apps on the designer 's systems , and visa versa , the admin staff would have an anurism trying to use * nix , and the IT guy would n't be nearly as productive on Windows .
That being said they 're also very useful in their respective places .
Stop bitching , use whatever you like and helps you in your work ( if you have a job and do n't live in your mom 's basement ) , and maybe try to find the positive in something ?
Like diversity , competition ?
Maybe ? Yeah ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How come 90\% of the comments are bitching and bickering when it comes to things like this.
Everyone tries to find the "best" OS - not gonna happen.
I use Ubuntu, I'm a web developer, it's very stable, easy to maintain, and supports all the software I need.
My design counterparts use Macs (go figure).
Our IT guy uses Gentoo because he has all the tools he needs, and the know-how to run the fucker.
The office administrative staff uses Windows XP because it's stable and supports what they do.
And my boss uses Windows 98 because he's stubborn and old.
You know what?
They all suck in some manner - I can't run my apps on the designer's systems, and visa versa, the admin staff would have an anurism trying to use *nix, and the IT guy wouldn't be nearly as productive on Windows.
That being said they're also very useful in their respective places.
Stop bitching, use whatever you like and helps you in your work (if you have a job and don't live in your mom's basement), and maybe try to find the positive in something?
Like diversity, competition?
Maybe? Yeah?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850561</id>
	<title>Re:CentOS 5.4 is out, too.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256331360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>WHOORAY!! I am raging hard right now, nothing like repackaged RHEL!<br>
No, I not joking, I seriously use it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>WHOORAY ! !
I am raging hard right now , nothing like repackaged RHEL !
No , I not joking , I seriously use it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WHOORAY!!
I am raging hard right now, nothing like repackaged RHEL!
No, I not joking, I seriously use it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849947</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851841</id>
	<title>Brain Teaser</title>
	<author>mwolfe38</author>
	<datestamp>1256293260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Haven't you heard,
Xenic Xenophobe is the year of the linux desktop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have n't you heard , Xenic Xenophobe is the year of the linux desktop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Haven't you heard,
Xenic Xenophobe is the year of the linux desktop.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850821</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29853007</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu? Windows? What's the difference?</title>
	<author>Nyeerrmm</author>
	<datestamp>1256302500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I mean, not to say you don't have a right to be annoyed with some features, but your complaints strike me as odd.</p><p>- What's wrong with having a documents folder?  It seems to me to be the best way to do things (having all your work in one easy to back up folder), and as far as I can tell the only difference between XP and Vista is that they took out the 'My'.  Also OS/X and presumably other linux distros do the same thing -- what OS has a better model?</p><p>- Requiring root priveleges to perform administrative tasks was a primary feature of UNIX system from the beginning, long before the abbreviation UAC was ever uttered.  It also proves to be good security, since it prevents code that can alter the core system from being run without user intervention (preventing many viruses and trojans).</p><p>- Defaulting to the desktop is a reasonable default.  Its easy to find and use.  If you want something different you can change it yourself.  I also don't see how its copying Windows, as far as I know Firefox was the first place I saw that particular behavior.</p><p>I guess what I feel is that while some of the defaults may be designed to make it easier for Windows users to switch, the real power comes from the fact that you have a lot more range to try new things with Linux.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean , not to say you do n't have a right to be annoyed with some features , but your complaints strike me as odd.- What 's wrong with having a documents folder ?
It seems to me to be the best way to do things ( having all your work in one easy to back up folder ) , and as far as I can tell the only difference between XP and Vista is that they took out the 'My' .
Also OS/X and presumably other linux distros do the same thing -- what OS has a better model ? - Requiring root priveleges to perform administrative tasks was a primary feature of UNIX system from the beginning , long before the abbreviation UAC was ever uttered .
It also proves to be good security , since it prevents code that can alter the core system from being run without user intervention ( preventing many viruses and trojans ) .- Defaulting to the desktop is a reasonable default .
Its easy to find and use .
If you want something different you can change it yourself .
I also do n't see how its copying Windows , as far as I know Firefox was the first place I saw that particular behavior.I guess what I feel is that while some of the defaults may be designed to make it easier for Windows users to switch , the real power comes from the fact that you have a lot more range to try new things with Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean, not to say you don't have a right to be annoyed with some features, but your complaints strike me as odd.- What's wrong with having a documents folder?
It seems to me to be the best way to do things (having all your work in one easy to back up folder), and as far as I can tell the only difference between XP and Vista is that they took out the 'My'.
Also OS/X and presumably other linux distros do the same thing -- what OS has a better model?- Requiring root priveleges to perform administrative tasks was a primary feature of UNIX system from the beginning, long before the abbreviation UAC was ever uttered.
It also proves to be good security, since it prevents code that can alter the core system from being run without user intervention (preventing many viruses and trojans).- Defaulting to the desktop is a reasonable default.
Its easy to find and use.
If you want something different you can change it yourself.
I also don't see how its copying Windows, as far as I know Firefox was the first place I saw that particular behavior.I guess what I feel is that while some of the defaults may be designed to make it easier for Windows users to switch, the real power comes from the fact that you have a lot more range to try new things with Linux.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851427</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850879</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>lattyware</author>
	<datestamp>1256289360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>They'd be certifiably insane not to.

In business, you look at any possible threats. Be it near or far. Like it or not, Linux is a viable threat to Microsoft, one of these distros could some day start to drag users away, and Microsoft would be fools not to keep any eye on them.

Also, I don't know what experience you had with Linux, but it's very different to mine. I have less trouble setting up and running Linux distros than I do with Windows.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 'd be certifiably insane not to .
In business , you look at any possible threats .
Be it near or far .
Like it or not , Linux is a viable threat to Microsoft , one of these distros could some day start to drag users away , and Microsoft would be fools not to keep any eye on them .
Also , I do n't know what experience you had with Linux , but it 's very different to mine .
I have less trouble setting up and running Linux distros than I do with Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They'd be certifiably insane not to.
In business, you look at any possible threats.
Be it near or far.
Like it or not, Linux is a viable threat to Microsoft, one of these distros could some day start to drag users away, and Microsoft would be fools not to keep any eye on them.
Also, I don't know what experience you had with Linux, but it's very different to mine.
I have less trouble setting up and running Linux distros than I do with Windows.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850627</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29852013</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>1s44c</author>
	<datestamp>1256294220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you are saying a OS that's so badly designed it needs virus scanner add-ons just to stop rogue files trashing it is better than one that just works?</p><p>Windows isn't ready for mass deployment and never has been. Ubuntu isn't perfect but it is better than windows in most of the ways that count.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you are saying a OS that 's so badly designed it needs virus scanner add-ons just to stop rogue files trashing it is better than one that just works ? Windows is n't ready for mass deployment and never has been .
Ubuntu is n't perfect but it is better than windows in most of the ways that count .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you are saying a OS that's so badly designed it needs virus scanner add-ons just to stop rogue files trashing it is better than one that just works?Windows isn't ready for mass deployment and never has been.
Ubuntu isn't perfect but it is better than windows in most of the ways that count.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850627</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849953</id>
	<title>Need hardware!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256329020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm looking forward to the official 9.10 release, but I really want some new hardware to run it on!  Almost all the netbook offerings are going the XP/W7 route.  Providers like <a href="http://system76.com/" title="system76.com" rel="nofollow">system76</a> [system76.com] have some OK offerings, but they are on the pricey side.  I wish I had a wide selection of hardware without having to pay the Microsoft tax!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm looking forward to the official 9.10 release , but I really want some new hardware to run it on !
Almost all the netbook offerings are going the XP/W7 route .
Providers like system76 [ system76.com ] have some OK offerings , but they are on the pricey side .
I wish I had a wide selection of hardware without having to pay the Microsoft tax !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm looking forward to the official 9.10 release, but I really want some new hardware to run it on!
Almost all the netbook offerings are going the XP/W7 route.
Providers like system76 [system76.com] have some OK offerings, but they are on the pricey side.
I wish I had a wide selection of hardware without having to pay the Microsoft tax!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29868125</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>Severity1</author>
	<datestamp>1256478000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I installed Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10 on my asus 1000hg. It worked perfectly! Pretty UI, Hardware supported, I didn't have to get the arrays.org kernels for eeepc support. Inserted a simcard unto my built-in huawei module, configured it via network manager and voila! mobile internet! I was riding the bus this morning and everyone is looking at me!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) Obviously I had to brag and turn on Compiz and everyone was like wow! Downside was battery life, roughly 4 to 4.8 hours but configuring laptop-mode-tools and powertop gave me 4.9 to 5.7 battery life.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I installed Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10 on my asus 1000hg .
It worked perfectly !
Pretty UI , Hardware supported , I did n't have to get the arrays.org kernels for eeepc support .
Inserted a simcard unto my built-in huawei module , configured it via network manager and voila !
mobile internet !
I was riding the bus this morning and everyone is looking at me !
: ) Obviously I had to brag and turn on Compiz and everyone was like wow !
Downside was battery life , roughly 4 to 4.8 hours but configuring laptop-mode-tools and powertop gave me 4.9 to 5.7 battery life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I installed Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10 on my asus 1000hg.
It worked perfectly!
Pretty UI, Hardware supported, I didn't have to get the arrays.org kernels for eeepc support.
Inserted a simcard unto my built-in huawei module, configured it via network manager and voila!
mobile internet!
I was riding the bus this morning and everyone is looking at me!
:) Obviously I had to brag and turn on Compiz and everyone was like wow!
Downside was battery life, roughly 4 to 4.8 hours but configuring laptop-mode-tools and powertop gave me 4.9 to 5.7 battery life.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851691</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>sarhjinian</author>
	<datestamp>1256292480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Ubuntu reached a point, once, where I thought that could eventually become true; but since Hardy, Canonical have blown it completely.</p></div></blockquote><p>To their credit, I think they recognized they blew it when they started the 100 Paper Cuts project.  It was a good way of showing, to the those who had become recalcitrant about fixing problems that mattered to actual users and were focused on latest-and-greatest instead.  Even then, there's some LaunchPad comments that could lead you to suspect that some people are a little too settled in their ways.</p><p>Actually, I think they realized they were in trouble with the whole badly-broken-Intel-graphics in 9.04.  I don't know how they let that slip through: badly breaking graphics performance for most laptops and many desktops seems like the kind of thing that would have shown up in QA reports and the beta period, no?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubuntu reached a point , once , where I thought that could eventually become true ; but since Hardy , Canonical have blown it completely.To their credit , I think they recognized they blew it when they started the 100 Paper Cuts project .
It was a good way of showing , to the those who had become recalcitrant about fixing problems that mattered to actual users and were focused on latest-and-greatest instead .
Even then , there 's some LaunchPad comments that could lead you to suspect that some people are a little too settled in their ways.Actually , I think they realized they were in trouble with the whole badly-broken-Intel-graphics in 9.04 .
I do n't know how they let that slip through : badly breaking graphics performance for most laptops and many desktops seems like the kind of thing that would have shown up in QA reports and the beta period , no ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ubuntu reached a point, once, where I thought that could eventually become true; but since Hardy, Canonical have blown it completely.To their credit, I think they recognized they blew it when they started the 100 Paper Cuts project.
It was a good way of showing, to the those who had become recalcitrant about fixing problems that mattered to actual users and were focused on latest-and-greatest instead.
Even then, there's some LaunchPad comments that could lead you to suspect that some people are a little too settled in their ways.Actually, I think they realized they were in trouble with the whole badly-broken-Intel-graphics in 9.04.
I don't know how they let that slip through: badly breaking graphics performance for most laptops and many desktops seems like the kind of thing that would have shown up in QA reports and the beta period, no?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850627</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29861013</id>
	<title>Re:It's ok</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256390580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's called MastUrbating. I long wondered if it was an American thing to misspell this intentionally. But it's just the good ol' fat-headedness.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's called MastUrbating .
I long wondered if it was an American thing to misspell this intentionally .
But it 's just the good ol ' fat-headedness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's called MastUrbating.
I long wondered if it was an American thing to misspell this intentionally.
But it's just the good ol' fat-headedness.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850821</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849977</id>
	<title>gggreat!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256329140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This should please all three linux desktop users.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This should please all three linux desktop users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This should please all three linux desktop users.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850649</id>
	<title>Nothings perfect</title>
	<author>bmullan</author>
	<datestamp>1256288520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been using the Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala beta for some time and its pretty solid.

I upgraded my Windows Vista Ultimate with Windows 7 Ultimate.    Windows told me of about a dozen programs that would no longer work.  iTunes would have to be reinstalled/upgraded, etc.   And I've yet to get Bluetooth Advanced Audio working<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... which seems to be broken for quite a few folks.    Win 7 doesn't appear to give
any greater performance than Vista did (my observations only).
<br> <b>
Ubuntu v9.10 Karmic costs me $0
<br>
Windows 7 cost me $219.
</b>
<br>
I've now using Ubuntu as the Host OS and I'm running Windows 7 as a Guest OS virtualized in KVM... works great and no dual boot any more.   If Windows crashes and burns I can just start a new VM.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using the Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala beta for some time and its pretty solid .
I upgraded my Windows Vista Ultimate with Windows 7 Ultimate .
Windows told me of about a dozen programs that would no longer work .
iTunes would have to be reinstalled/upgraded , etc .
And I 've yet to get Bluetooth Advanced Audio working ... which seems to be broken for quite a few folks .
Win 7 does n't appear to give any greater performance than Vista did ( my observations only ) .
Ubuntu v9.10 Karmic costs me $ 0 Windows 7 cost me $ 219 .
I 've now using Ubuntu as the Host OS and I 'm running Windows 7 as a Guest OS virtualized in KVM... works great and no dual boot any more .
If Windows crashes and burns I can just start a new VM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using the Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala beta for some time and its pretty solid.
I upgraded my Windows Vista Ultimate with Windows 7 Ultimate.
Windows told me of about a dozen programs that would no longer work.
iTunes would have to be reinstalled/upgraded, etc.
And I've yet to get Bluetooth Advanced Audio working ... which seems to be broken for quite a few folks.
Win 7 doesn't appear to give
any greater performance than Vista did (my observations only).
Ubuntu v9.10 Karmic costs me $0

Windows 7 cost me $219.
I've now using Ubuntu as the Host OS and I'm running Windows 7 as a Guest OS virtualized in KVM... works great and no dual boot any more.
If Windows crashes and burns I can just start a new VM.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29884937</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256663400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fork it? As for me, the only web browser that renders flash correctly on my old laptop in Linux is Opera.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fork it ?
As for me , the only web browser that renders flash correctly on my old laptop in Linux is Opera .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fork it?
As for me, the only web browser that renders flash correctly on my old laptop in Linux is Opera.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851711</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851403</id>
	<title>Re:Win7 wtf?!</title>
	<author>node 3</author>
	<datestamp>1256291340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If Ubuntu beta/rc is not news worthy by itself, releasing on the same day with Win7 doesn't change that in any way.</p></div><p>The Ubuntu release dates and development cycle were put in place *long* before Windows 7 got an official release date.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If Ubuntu beta/rc is not news worthy by itself , releasing on the same day with Win7 does n't change that in any way.The Ubuntu release dates and development cycle were put in place * long * before Windows 7 got an official release date .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Ubuntu beta/rc is not news worthy by itself, releasing on the same day with Win7 doesn't change that in any way.The Ubuntu release dates and development cycle were put in place *long* before Windows 7 got an official release date.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849983</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29853459</id>
	<title>Re:It's ok</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256307120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lustful Leprechaun is the next one!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lustful Leprechaun is the next one !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lustful Leprechaun is the next one!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850821</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29852989</id>
	<title>Re:SeaLab 2021</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256302320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Koala was to put focus on an endangered species. Karmic is your fairly uncommon adjective that Ubuntu can "coup" so you can google for "karmic *whatever your problem is*" and get relevant results that don't belong to a version from two years ago or every other page that happened to use the numbers 09.10. It works much, much better than Debian that I came from where they typically used stable, testing and unstable which left a ton of junk that doesn't apply to my stable all over the net. Yeah it's corny but it works extremely well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Koala was to put focus on an endangered species .
Karmic is your fairly uncommon adjective that Ubuntu can " coup " so you can google for " karmic * whatever your problem is * " and get relevant results that do n't belong to a version from two years ago or every other page that happened to use the numbers 09.10 .
It works much , much better than Debian that I came from where they typically used stable , testing and unstable which left a ton of junk that does n't apply to my stable all over the net .
Yeah it 's corny but it works extremely well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Koala was to put focus on an endangered species.
Karmic is your fairly uncommon adjective that Ubuntu can "coup" so you can google for "karmic *whatever your problem is*" and get relevant results that don't belong to a version from two years ago or every other page that happened to use the numbers 09.10.
It works much, much better than Debian that I came from where they typically used stable, testing and unstable which left a ton of junk that doesn't apply to my stable all over the net.
Yeah it's corny but it works extremely well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850359</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29854517</id>
	<title>Re:It's ok</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256323320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hey, wait a minute...  Ubuntu releases aren't supposed to be named after the Community Manager!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , wait a minute... Ubuntu releases are n't supposed to be named after the Community Manager !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, wait a minute...  Ubuntu releases aren't supposed to be named after the Community Manager!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850821</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851427</id>
	<title>Ubuntu?  Windows?  What's the difference?</title>
	<author>BlindSpot</author>
	<datestamp>1256291400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Okay I've been wanting to vent about this for a few weeks now and this seems to be as good a topic to write this in as any.</p><p>My first encounter with Ubuntu came when I recently installed Ubuntu Jaunty on a laptop for a club I belong to.  The laptop's got an XP licence but we couldn't find a CD and the programs we need are available for Linux, so Ubuntu seemed like a good choice to get us up quickly.  And it worked out fine:  Install was simple and quick and the system looked good.  The only tricky bit was figuring out the wireless setup but it wasn't too hard.</p><p>However I was utterly horrified to see that Ubuntu has also faithfully and I must say blindly replicated the <b>most hideous</b> features of Windows!  The despicable "My Documents" folder structure was the first and most obvious.  Say what you well about Vista, at least it fixed this into something less cumbersome and more sensible.  Next was the constant prompting I got after doing almost every little thing.  If I wanted that I'd have left UAC enabled on my Vista desktop.  Then I find out Firefox was happily setup to save everything to the desktop by default.  FOLDERS EXIST FOR A REASON!!!</p><p><b>Why why WHY</b> are so many Linux folks trying to clone Windows when they dislike it so?  It may be Linux and it may be free, but if it looks and acts like Windows then it's still an ugly mess.  Here I thought Ubuntu would take the best features of Window and combine them with Linux, but instead all they did was turn Linux into a horrible disgusting Windows clone.</p><p>If a company knocks off another company's product we accuse them of stealing ideas.  If someone releases some new program (open source or not) that replicates existing functionality we say "well why use yours when I can just use the original?"  So why should we get all happy excited about Ubuntu when all it does is rip off Windows?  To me that'd be the height of hypocrisy.</p><p>Mod me down, I don't care.  I had to get this off my chest...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Okay I 've been wanting to vent about this for a few weeks now and this seems to be as good a topic to write this in as any.My first encounter with Ubuntu came when I recently installed Ubuntu Jaunty on a laptop for a club I belong to .
The laptop 's got an XP licence but we could n't find a CD and the programs we need are available for Linux , so Ubuntu seemed like a good choice to get us up quickly .
And it worked out fine : Install was simple and quick and the system looked good .
The only tricky bit was figuring out the wireless setup but it was n't too hard.However I was utterly horrified to see that Ubuntu has also faithfully and I must say blindly replicated the most hideous features of Windows !
The despicable " My Documents " folder structure was the first and most obvious .
Say what you well about Vista , at least it fixed this into something less cumbersome and more sensible .
Next was the constant prompting I got after doing almost every little thing .
If I wanted that I 'd have left UAC enabled on my Vista desktop .
Then I find out Firefox was happily setup to save everything to the desktop by default .
FOLDERS EXIST FOR A REASON ! !
! Why why WHY are so many Linux folks trying to clone Windows when they dislike it so ?
It may be Linux and it may be free , but if it looks and acts like Windows then it 's still an ugly mess .
Here I thought Ubuntu would take the best features of Window and combine them with Linux , but instead all they did was turn Linux into a horrible disgusting Windows clone.If a company knocks off another company 's product we accuse them of stealing ideas .
If someone releases some new program ( open source or not ) that replicates existing functionality we say " well why use yours when I can just use the original ?
" So why should we get all happy excited about Ubuntu when all it does is rip off Windows ?
To me that 'd be the height of hypocrisy.Mod me down , I do n't care .
I had to get this off my chest.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Okay I've been wanting to vent about this for a few weeks now and this seems to be as good a topic to write this in as any.My first encounter with Ubuntu came when I recently installed Ubuntu Jaunty on a laptop for a club I belong to.
The laptop's got an XP licence but we couldn't find a CD and the programs we need are available for Linux, so Ubuntu seemed like a good choice to get us up quickly.
And it worked out fine:  Install was simple and quick and the system looked good.
The only tricky bit was figuring out the wireless setup but it wasn't too hard.However I was utterly horrified to see that Ubuntu has also faithfully and I must say blindly replicated the most hideous features of Windows!
The despicable "My Documents" folder structure was the first and most obvious.
Say what you well about Vista, at least it fixed this into something less cumbersome and more sensible.
Next was the constant prompting I got after doing almost every little thing.
If I wanted that I'd have left UAC enabled on my Vista desktop.
Then I find out Firefox was happily setup to save everything to the desktop by default.
FOLDERS EXIST FOR A REASON!!
!Why why WHY are so many Linux folks trying to clone Windows when they dislike it so?
It may be Linux and it may be free, but if it looks and acts like Windows then it's still an ugly mess.
Here I thought Ubuntu would take the best features of Window and combine them with Linux, but instead all they did was turn Linux into a horrible disgusting Windows clone.If a company knocks off another company's product we accuse them of stealing ideas.
If someone releases some new program (open source or not) that replicates existing functionality we say "well why use yours when I can just use the original?
"  So why should we get all happy excited about Ubuntu when all it does is rip off Windows?
To me that'd be the height of hypocrisy.Mod me down, I don't care.
I had to get this off my chest...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850095</id>
	<title>Code Name Runner-up</title>
	<author>allknowingfrog</author>
	<datestamp>1256329500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Karmic Koala" is great, but I would like to believe that "All-knowing Frog" was a close second.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Karmic Koala " is great , but I would like to believe that " All-knowing Frog " was a close second .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Karmic Koala" is great, but I would like to believe that "All-knowing Frog" was a close second.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851331</id>
	<title>Re:It's ok</title>
	<author>bigredradio</author>
	<datestamp>1256291040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think that is the next release of <a href="http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706950" title="gmane.org">OpenBSD.</a> [gmane.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that is the next release of OpenBSD .
[ gmane.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that is the next release of OpenBSD.
[gmane.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850821</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849937</id>
	<title>FIRST POST!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256329020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>KARMA COMES BACK TO YOU!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>KARMA COMES BACK TO YOU ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>KARMA COMES BACK TO YOU!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851585</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>livingboy</author>
	<datestamp>1256291940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Seriously, Linux users who try and claim that any Linux distribution has any remotely conceivable chance of legitimately competing with either Microsoft or Apple at this point, literally leave me gasping. The amount denial and delusion engaged in is mind boggling.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Hilarious, ROFL.

</p><p>For the last eight years Linux has been my main desktop OS, because it has given me the performance I have needed.

</p><p>Of course there has been occasional problems, but usually RTMF and UTFG have been adequate means to get the problem fixed.

</p><p>I use Linux to do my work, thanks for the multiple workspaces, true multitasking and great stability on suitable cheap iron, I have managed to get them done.

</p><p>As I am nearing my 50's, I hope that I have left most of my denials and delusions behind<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-))</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , Linux users who try and claim that any Linux distribution has any remotely conceivable chance of legitimately competing with either Microsoft or Apple at this point , literally leave me gasping .
The amount denial and delusion engaged in is mind boggling .
Hilarious , ROFL .
For the last eight years Linux has been my main desktop OS , because it has given me the performance I have needed .
Of course there has been occasional problems , but usually RTMF and UTFG have been adequate means to get the problem fixed .
I use Linux to do my work , thanks for the multiple workspaces , true multitasking and great stability on suitable cheap iron , I have managed to get them done .
As I am nearing my 50 's , I hope that I have left most of my denials and delusions behind : - ) )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, Linux users who try and claim that any Linux distribution has any remotely conceivable chance of legitimately competing with either Microsoft or Apple at this point, literally leave me gasping.
The amount denial and delusion engaged in is mind boggling.
Hilarious, ROFL.
For the last eight years Linux has been my main desktop OS, because it has given me the performance I have needed.
Of course there has been occasional problems, but usually RTMF and UTFG have been adequate means to get the problem fixed.
I use Linux to do my work, thanks for the multiple workspaces, true multitasking and great stability on suitable cheap iron, I have managed to get them done.
As I am nearing my 50's, I hope that I have left most of my denials and delusions behind :-))
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850627</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29853383</id>
	<title>But does the Karmic Koala drink Karmic Kola?</title>
	<author>Ungrounded Lightning</author>
	<datestamp>1256306280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good work, guys.</p><p>Downloading....</p><p>(long string of dots aborted due to lameness filter...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good work , guys.Downloading.... ( long string of dots aborted due to lameness filter... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good work, guys.Downloading....(long string of dots aborted due to lameness filter...)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849947</id>
	<title>CentOS 5.4 is out, too.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256329020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.centos.org/" title="centos.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.centos.org/</a> [centos.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.centos.org/ [ centos.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.centos.org/ [centos.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850833</id>
	<title>The 'Streets'?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256289180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well then....I will just trot on down to my local Staples and pick up a copy of the new version of Ubuntu. Or do they mean the 'ether' when they say the 'streets'?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well then....I will just trot on down to my local Staples and pick up a copy of the new version of Ubuntu .
Or do they mean the 'ether ' when they say the 'streets ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well then....I will just trot on down to my local Staples and pick up a copy of the new version of Ubuntu.
Or do they mean the 'ether' when they say the 'streets'?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851673</id>
	<title>Re:I'm still waiting for</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256292360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What happens when they get there?  Will Ubuntu cease to exist, or will they move on to something even more exotic like the Greek alphabet?  This is a serious question.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What happens when they get there ?
Will Ubuntu cease to exist , or will they move on to something even more exotic like the Greek alphabet ?
This is a serious question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What happens when they get there?
Will Ubuntu cease to exist, or will they move on to something even more exotic like the Greek alphabet?
This is a serious question.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850189</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850271</id>
	<title>how long until</title>
	<author>WormholeFiend</author>
	<datestamp>1256330280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the next Crunchbang release, then?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the next Crunchbang release , then ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the next Crunchbang release, then?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29852099</id>
	<title>Re:Code Name Runner-up</title>
	<author>arielCo</author>
	<datestamp>1256294820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu\_Linux#Releases" title="wikipedia.org">Lucid Lynx</a> [wikipedia.org] is the next, in case you're wondering. Announced in September.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lucid Lynx [ wikipedia.org ] is the next , in case you 're wondering .
Announced in September .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lucid Lynx [wikipedia.org] is the next, in case you're wondering.
Announced in September.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850095</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29849945</id>
	<title>Please use the torrents</title>
	<author>Daffy Duck</author>
	<datestamp>1256329020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I live for high upload:download ratios</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I live for high upload : download ratios</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live for high upload:download ratios</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851307</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>Shikaku</author>
	<datestamp>1256290920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Even if they weren't light years ahead in other areas of usability, Microsoft *are* ahead of Ubuntu in at least one, basic, critical area. Stable hardware support that actually works.</p></div><p>I can bring two points to prove you wrong, in the past AND the present:</p><p>How was the Vista launch driver support?</p><p>What version of Windows offers to install the latest graphics card drivers off the internet for you, if it already doesn't work out of the box?</p><p>Not only that, the same sound and graphics issues exist in Windows.  Faulty hardware is still faulty hardware on Windows or Linux, and the difference between a blue screen and a kernel panic is nil in this case.  The examples you brought up are continually being fixed, whereas Windows sound drivers are lucky to get an update if at all.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if they were n't light years ahead in other areas of usability , Microsoft * are * ahead of Ubuntu in at least one , basic , critical area .
Stable hardware support that actually works.I can bring two points to prove you wrong , in the past AND the present : How was the Vista launch driver support ? What version of Windows offers to install the latest graphics card drivers off the internet for you , if it already does n't work out of the box ? Not only that , the same sound and graphics issues exist in Windows .
Faulty hardware is still faulty hardware on Windows or Linux , and the difference between a blue screen and a kernel panic is nil in this case .
The examples you brought up are continually being fixed , whereas Windows sound drivers are lucky to get an update if at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if they weren't light years ahead in other areas of usability, Microsoft *are* ahead of Ubuntu in at least one, basic, critical area.
Stable hardware support that actually works.I can bring two points to prove you wrong, in the past AND the present:How was the Vista launch driver support?What version of Windows offers to install the latest graphics card drivers off the internet for you, if it already doesn't work out of the box?Not only that, the same sound and graphics issues exist in Windows.
Faulty hardware is still faulty hardware on Windows or Linux, and the difference between a blue screen and a kernel panic is nil in this case.
The examples you brought up are continually being fixed, whereas Windows sound drivers are lucky to get an update if at all.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850627</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29852935</id>
	<title>Re:It's ok</title>
	<author>ignavus</author>
	<datestamp>1256301720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Karmic Koala is fine, but I just can't wait for Masterbating Monkey to be released!</p></div><p>Hopefully to be followed a year later by Orthographic Orang-utan.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Karmic Koala is fine , but I just ca n't wait for Masterbating Monkey to be released ! Hopefully to be followed a year later by Orthographic Orang-utan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Karmic Koala is fine, but I just can't wait for Masterbating Monkey to be released!Hopefully to be followed a year later by Orthographic Orang-utan.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850821</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29854713</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>mldi</author>
	<datestamp>1256326980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The problem is that, like Windows, Linux distros that try to serve the mass market have the almost impossible task of supporting everything. It simply doesn't work in all cases.</p></div><p>I would agree it doesn't work for all cases, but Linux hardware support is based on the kernel, not necessarily the distro. Yes, distros often times have their own sets of patches to the kernel to increase SOME hardware support, but it really has nothing to do with specific distros that try to serve the mass market, and often times those patches will make it into a kernel release soon after.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is that , like Windows , Linux distros that try to serve the mass market have the almost impossible task of supporting everything .
It simply does n't work in all cases.I would agree it does n't work for all cases , but Linux hardware support is based on the kernel , not necessarily the distro .
Yes , distros often times have their own sets of patches to the kernel to increase SOME hardware support , but it really has nothing to do with specific distros that try to serve the mass market , and often times those patches will make it into a kernel release soon after .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is that, like Windows, Linux distros that try to serve the mass market have the almost impossible task of supporting everything.
It simply doesn't work in all cases.I would agree it doesn't work for all cases, but Linux hardware support is based on the kernel, not necessarily the distro.
Yes, distros often times have their own sets of patches to the kernel to increase SOME hardware support, but it really has nothing to do with specific distros that try to serve the mass market, and often times those patches will make it into a kernel release soon after.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851029</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850765</id>
	<title>Re:Code Name Runner-up</title>
	<author>Again</author>
	<datestamp>1256288880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"Karmic Koala" is great, but I would like to believe that "All-knowing Frog" was a close second.</p></div><p>*sigh* Again, stop with the self-reference!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Karmic Koala " is great , but I would like to believe that " All-knowing Frog " was a close second .
* sigh * Again , stop with the self-reference !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Karmic Koala" is great, but I would like to believe that "All-knowing Frog" was a close second.
*sigh* Again, stop with the self-reference!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850095</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850291</id>
	<title>Seems faster on my eee PC</title>
	<author>thue</author>
	<datestamp>1256330340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The interface on my eee pc using ubuntu 9.04 was very slow, probably some issue with the graphic card driver. 9.10 works much better for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The interface on my eee pc using ubuntu 9.04 was very slow , probably some issue with the graphic card driver .
9.10 works much better for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The interface on my eee pc using ubuntu 9.04 was very slow, probably some issue with the graphic card driver.
9.10 works much better for me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29853163</id>
	<title>Re:transparent system tray in awn</title>
	<author>Zantetsuken</author>
	<datestamp>1256304000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>for Firefox I have the bookmarks moved onto the menu bar, and then navigation buttons, url and search bars on the 2nd line

at one point I think I had it down to one bar with the compact-menu extension, where you can put all of the menus into a single menu button or icon, and had less bookmarks in in my "bookmark toolbar" - it made the url and search bars a bit short sometimes, but on my 12" Gateway laptop (before even the first netbook was out) a lot better

in another case, with the 22" monitor on my desktop, it goes from having a ridiculous amount of screen real estate to an insane amount</htmltext>
<tokenext>for Firefox I have the bookmarks moved onto the menu bar , and then navigation buttons , url and search bars on the 2nd line at one point I think I had it down to one bar with the compact-menu extension , where you can put all of the menus into a single menu button or icon , and had less bookmarks in in my " bookmark toolbar " - it made the url and search bars a bit short sometimes , but on my 12 " Gateway laptop ( before even the first netbook was out ) a lot better in another case , with the 22 " monitor on my desktop , it goes from having a ridiculous amount of screen real estate to an insane amount</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for Firefox I have the bookmarks moved onto the menu bar, and then navigation buttons, url and search bars on the 2nd line

at one point I think I had it down to one bar with the compact-menu extension, where you can put all of the menus into a single menu button or icon, and had less bookmarks in in my "bookmark toolbar" - it made the url and search bars a bit short sometimes, but on my 12" Gateway laptop (before even the first netbook was out) a lot better

in another case, with the 22" monitor on my desktop, it goes from having a ridiculous amount of screen real estate to an insane amount</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850269</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29853017</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>Yfrwlf</author>
	<datestamp>1256302560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I know that there is hardware out there that doesn't work, and that quickly increases when you get into certain types of peripherals, but so far my "gambling" has yielded 100\% success.  I go out, buy whatever hardware I want, and it just works every time, as for my base computer that is.  Like I said, for things like, say, webcams, I've had to be more careful and make sure that the cam is UVC-compliant for instance, or uses firewire.  You know, actual standards.  Then Linux support is cake.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know that there is hardware out there that does n't work , and that quickly increases when you get into certain types of peripherals , but so far my " gambling " has yielded 100 \ % success .
I go out , buy whatever hardware I want , and it just works every time , as for my base computer that is .
Like I said , for things like , say , webcams , I 've had to be more careful and make sure that the cam is UVC-compliant for instance , or uses firewire .
You know , actual standards .
Then Linux support is cake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know that there is hardware out there that doesn't work, and that quickly increases when you get into certain types of peripherals, but so far my "gambling" has yielded 100\% success.
I go out, buy whatever hardware I want, and it just works every time, as for my base computer that is.
Like I said, for things like, say, webcams, I've had to be more careful and make sure that the cam is UVC-compliant for instance, or uses firewire.
You know, actual standards.
Then Linux support is cake.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29851029</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850395</id>
	<title>Re:Would have been better</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256330760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, actually, it's better to release it a few days after, right around the time everyone realises Windows 7 is just the same old shit, and starts looking for an alternative.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , actually , it 's better to release it a few days after , right around the time everyone realises Windows 7 is just the same old shit , and starts looking for an alternative .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, actually, it's better to release it a few days after, right around the time everyone realises Windows 7 is just the same old shit, and starts looking for an alternative.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850023</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29905745</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256743680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ubuntu will never succeed for two reasons 1) A stupid name 2) a stupid colour scheme.</p><p>The ubuntu crowd places idealism above pragmatism and for this reason they will fail.</p><p>The fact that I hate Ubuntu for trying to dictate upstream to the Debian developers has nothing to do with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubuntu will never succeed for two reasons 1 ) A stupid name 2 ) a stupid colour scheme.The ubuntu crowd places idealism above pragmatism and for this reason they will fail.The fact that I hate Ubuntu for trying to dictate upstream to the Debian developers has nothing to do with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ubuntu will never succeed for two reasons 1) A stupid name 2) a stupid colour scheme.The ubuntu crowd places idealism above pragmatism and for this reason they will fail.The fact that I hate Ubuntu for trying to dictate upstream to the Debian developers has nothing to do with it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29855391</id>
	<title>Re:It's ok</title>
	<author>pbhj</author>
	<datestamp>1256385780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget Lactating Lycanthrope !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget Lactating Lycanthrope !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget Lactating Lycanthrope !</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850865</id>
	<title>Re:Need hardware!</title>
	<author>palegray.net</author>
	<datestamp>1256289300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can always take it for a spin in a VM before getting your hardware<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;).</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can always take it for a spin in a VM before getting your hardware ; ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can always take it for a spin in a VM before getting your hardware ;).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850671</id>
	<title>Good and Bad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256288580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not sure if this is a PulseAudio update, but the sound from my laptop speaker is a lot louder now. I used to set the volume bar at full blast, now I only have to set it to the middle. My wireless can also pick up a stronger signal than before.</p><p>However, they changed from hal to DeviceKit and now my suspend is broken.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure if this is a PulseAudio update , but the sound from my laptop speaker is a lot louder now .
I used to set the volume bar at full blast , now I only have to set it to the middle .
My wireless can also pick up a stronger signal than before.However , they changed from hal to DeviceKit and now my suspend is broken .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure if this is a PulseAudio update, but the sound from my laptop speaker is a lot louder now.
I used to set the volume bar at full blast, now I only have to set it to the middle.
My wireless can also pick up a stronger signal than before.However, they changed from hal to DeviceKit and now my suspend is broken.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850169</id>
	<title>Re:Would have been better</title>
	<author>Tarlus</author>
	<datestamp>1256329860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, I don't think it would have made a difference when they released it. Canonical sticks to a strict release cycle every April and October and they won't alter their release date just to try and compete with other operating systems. They're appealing to a fairly different user base, anyway.</p><p>People who are weighing the option of Windows 7 vs Ubuntu 9.10 as their primary OS are going to make their choice regardless of which one came out a week earlier.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , I do n't think it would have made a difference when they released it .
Canonical sticks to a strict release cycle every April and October and they wo n't alter their release date just to try and compete with other operating systems .
They 're appealing to a fairly different user base , anyway.People who are weighing the option of Windows 7 vs Ubuntu 9.10 as their primary OS are going to make their choice regardless of which one came out a week earlier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, I don't think it would have made a difference when they released it.
Canonical sticks to a strict release cycle every April and October and they won't alter their release date just to try and compete with other operating systems.
They're appealing to a fairly different user base, anyway.People who are weighing the option of Windows 7 vs Ubuntu 9.10 as their primary OS are going to make their choice regardless of which one came out a week earlier.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850269</id>
	<title>transparent system tray in awn</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256330220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got hardy on my thinkpad at the moment.  I'm considering upgrading just because the new gtk in karmic enables a transparent system tray so AWN will finally look <a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/\_eXLL3mWKz5U/SrYdELT5VxI/AAAAAAAAAAM/99OhmBM9E6o/s1600-h/Screenshot-1.png" title="blogspot.com">right</a> [blogspot.com].</p><p>I never liked having two horizontal bars or panels on my screen, especially on a 14" widescreen. too much wasted real estate. especially when applications have a title bar. then add fire fox book mark bar, menus and address bar and that doesn't leave a lot of real estate!</p><p>AWN with google chrome makes the most of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got hardy on my thinkpad at the moment .
I 'm considering upgrading just because the new gtk in karmic enables a transparent system tray so AWN will finally look right [ blogspot.com ] .I never liked having two horizontal bars or panels on my screen , especially on a 14 " widescreen .
too much wasted real estate .
especially when applications have a title bar .
then add fire fox book mark bar , menus and address bar and that does n't leave a lot of real estate ! AWN with google chrome makes the most of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got hardy on my thinkpad at the moment.
I'm considering upgrading just because the new gtk in karmic enables a transparent system tray so AWN will finally look right [blogspot.com].I never liked having two horizontal bars or panels on my screen, especially on a 14" widescreen.
too much wasted real estate.
especially when applications have a title bar.
then add fire fox book mark bar, menus and address bar and that doesn't leave a lot of real estate!AWN with google chrome makes the most of it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29861449</id>
	<title>Re:Causality is wrong</title>
	<author>True Grit</author>
	<datestamp>1256396160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If only Firefox would stop being so patent-freaky and decode H.264</p></div><p>There is a reason they, and lots of others, in the IT industry are 'so patent-freaky'.  Might have something to do with all the patent litigation thats continuously going on...</p><p>If they distributed FF with H264 playback, they'd be violating the law, because they haven't paid MPEGLA their blood money.  This isn't being 'freaky', its merely behaving sanely in an insane world.</p><p><div class="quote"><p> <a href="http://ajaxian.com/archives/apple-html5-video" title="ajaxian.com">when it is available</a> [ajaxian.com]</p> </div><p>Apple has no problem using H264, since they've got the money to pay the royalties, and they don't need to worry about violating the GPL (since they don't use it)... never mind that some of those H264 patents are their *own* anyway.  Did you know that Apple gets part of the H264 royalties thats collected by MPEGLA?</p><p>No, its pretty darn clear why Apple would love for H264 to win and any open alternatives, that they won't either be able to control nor make money on, fail...</p><p><div class="quote"><p>*buntu seem perfectly capable of shipping a video player that'll use the x264 codec if installed</p></div><p>Which is not the same thing as shipping a video player with H264 builtin and active, which not even Canonical can do.</p><p>Secondly, making FF work with existing codecs on a user's system... kinda requires intimate knowledge of that user's system.   Now the FF package distributed by Canonical obviously has that info for their own distro, but Mozilla, after all, isn't a distro maker, so as long the MPEGLA stranglehold continues, it'll be up to the distros and the users themselves to 'solve'  the problem.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If only Firefox would stop being so patent-freaky and decode H.264There is a reason they , and lots of others , in the IT industry are 'so patent-freaky' .
Might have something to do with all the patent litigation thats continuously going on...If they distributed FF with H264 playback , they 'd be violating the law , because they have n't paid MPEGLA their blood money .
This is n't being 'freaky ' , its merely behaving sanely in an insane world .
when it is available [ ajaxian.com ] Apple has no problem using H264 , since they 've got the money to pay the royalties , and they do n't need to worry about violating the GPL ( since they do n't use it ) ... never mind that some of those H264 patents are their * own * anyway .
Did you know that Apple gets part of the H264 royalties thats collected by MPEGLA ? No , its pretty darn clear why Apple would love for H264 to win and any open alternatives , that they wo n't either be able to control nor make money on , fail... * buntu seem perfectly capable of shipping a video player that 'll use the x264 codec if installedWhich is not the same thing as shipping a video player with H264 builtin and active , which not even Canonical can do.Secondly , making FF work with existing codecs on a user 's system... kinda requires intimate knowledge of that user 's system .
Now the FF package distributed by Canonical obviously has that info for their own distro , but Mozilla , after all , is n't a distro maker , so as long the MPEGLA stranglehold continues , it 'll be up to the distros and the users themselves to 'solve ' the problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If only Firefox would stop being so patent-freaky and decode H.264There is a reason they, and lots of others, in the IT industry are 'so patent-freaky'.
Might have something to do with all the patent litigation thats continuously going on...If they distributed FF with H264 playback, they'd be violating the law, because they haven't paid MPEGLA their blood money.
This isn't being 'freaky', its merely behaving sanely in an insane world.
when it is available [ajaxian.com] Apple has no problem using H264, since they've got the money to pay the royalties, and they don't need to worry about violating the GPL (since they don't use it)... never mind that some of those H264 patents are their *own* anyway.
Did you know that Apple gets part of the H264 royalties thats collected by MPEGLA?No, its pretty darn clear why Apple would love for H264 to win and any open alternatives, that they won't either be able to control nor make money on, fail...*buntu seem perfectly capable of shipping a video player that'll use the x264 codec if installedWhich is not the same thing as shipping a video player with H264 builtin and active, which not even Canonical can do.Secondly, making FF work with existing codecs on a user's system... kinda requires intimate knowledge of that user's system.
Now the FF package distributed by Canonical obviously has that info for their own distro, but Mozilla, after all, isn't a distro maker, so as long the MPEGLA stranglehold continues, it'll be up to the distros and the users themselves to 'solve'  the problem.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_23_1639234.29850899</id>
	<title>Release dates</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1256289480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>[Would have been better] had they released it several days ahead of 7.</p></div></blockquote><p>Which is why they released Jaunty 6 months ahead of Windows 7, when people were less likely to be focussed on Windows upgrades.</p><p>(Well, no, its not really <i>why</i>; Ubuntu releases are every six months and have been for quite some time. But, still, if you are worried that 9.10 is going to get lost because it was too close to the Win7 release date, 9.04 was released fairly recently but before Win7, and 10.04 will be released  in not too long, but after the immediate Win7 release attention is gone.)</p></div>
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<tokenext>[ Would have been better ] had they released it several days ahead of 7.Which is why they released Jaunty 6 months ahead of Windows 7 , when people were less likely to be focussed on Windows upgrades .
( Well , no , its not really why ; Ubuntu releases are every six months and have been for quite some time .
But , still , if you are worried that 9.10 is going to get lost because it was too close to the Win7 release date , 9.04 was released fairly recently but before Win7 , and 10.04 will be released in not too long , but after the immediate Win7 release attention is gone .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[Would have been better] had they released it several days ahead of 7.Which is why they released Jaunty 6 months ahead of Windows 7, when people were less likely to be focussed on Windows upgrades.
(Well, no, its not really why; Ubuntu releases are every six months and have been for quite some time.
But, still, if you are worried that 9.10 is going to get lost because it was too close to the Win7 release date, 9.04 was released fairly recently but before Win7, and 10.04 will be released  in not too long, but after the immediate Win7 release attention is gone.
)
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