<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_22_1421201</id>
	<title>EU Paves the Way For Three-Strikes Cut-Off Policy</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1256228700000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Mark.JUK writes <i>"The <a href="http://www.europarl.europa.eu/">European Parliament</a> has surrendered to pressure from Member States (especially France) by <a href="http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2009/10/22/europe-paves-way-for-three-strikes-style-isp-disconnection-policy.html">abandoning amendment 138</a>, a provision adopted on two occasions by an 88\% majority of the plenary assembly, and which aimed to protect citizens' right to Internet access. The move paves the way for an EU wide policy supporting arbitrary restrictions of Internet access. Under the original text any restriction of an individual could only be taken following a prior judicial ruling. The new update has completely removed this, meaning that governments now have legal grounds to force Internet providers (ISPs) into disconnecting their customers from the Internet (i.e. such as when 'suspected' of illegal p2p file sharing)."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mark.JUK writes " The European Parliament has surrendered to pressure from Member States ( especially France ) by abandoning amendment 138 , a provision adopted on two occasions by an 88 \ % majority of the plenary assembly , and which aimed to protect citizens ' right to Internet access .
The move paves the way for an EU wide policy supporting arbitrary restrictions of Internet access .
Under the original text any restriction of an individual could only be taken following a prior judicial ruling .
The new update has completely removed this , meaning that governments now have legal grounds to force Internet providers ( ISPs ) into disconnecting their customers from the Internet ( i.e .
such as when 'suspected ' of illegal p2p file sharing ) .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mark.JUK writes "The European Parliament has surrendered to pressure from Member States (especially France) by abandoning amendment 138, a provision adopted on two occasions by an 88\% majority of the plenary assembly, and which aimed to protect citizens' right to Internet access.
The move paves the way for an EU wide policy supporting arbitrary restrictions of Internet access.
Under the original text any restriction of an individual could only be taken following a prior judicial ruling.
The new update has completely removed this, meaning that governments now have legal grounds to force Internet providers (ISPs) into disconnecting their customers from the Internet (i.e.
such as when 'suspected' of illegal p2p file sharing).
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836543</id>
	<title>this will be a problem in the future.</title>
	<author>SkunkPussy</author>
	<datestamp>1256232480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This will adversely affect small businesses - why should someone's business be made unviable cos they can't stop their kids downloading a few bits and pieces.</p><p>Imagine if you weren't allowed to use roads because a bus company complained about your driving 3 times.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This will adversely affect small businesses - why should someone 's business be made unviable cos they ca n't stop their kids downloading a few bits and pieces.Imagine if you were n't allowed to use roads because a bus company complained about your driving 3 times .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This will adversely affect small businesses - why should someone's business be made unviable cos they can't stop their kids downloading a few bits and pieces.Imagine if you weren't allowed to use roads because a bus company complained about your driving 3 times.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836689</id>
	<title>Damn French...</title>
	<author>cbope</author>
	<datestamp>1256233080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder how this will affect the recently passed law here in Finland that internet access is a legal right for all citizens. I'm getting pretty tired of France running the show in the EU and getting their ridiculous laws enacted at the EU level.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how this will affect the recently passed law here in Finland that internet access is a legal right for all citizens .
I 'm getting pretty tired of France running the show in the EU and getting their ridiculous laws enacted at the EU level .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how this will affect the recently passed law here in Finland that internet access is a legal right for all citizens.
I'm getting pretty tired of France running the show in the EU and getting their ridiculous laws enacted at the EU level.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29842453</id>
	<title>Well the french are idiots</title>
	<author>Snaller</author>
	<datestamp>1256226660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just look at their farmers - they can't make money decently, and instead of making the honest choice: There are too many people trying to do this job - some have to find another business - they try and blackmail money from the rest of the EU.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just look at their farmers - they ca n't make money decently , and instead of making the honest choice : There are too many people trying to do this job - some have to find another business - they try and blackmail money from the rest of the EU .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just look at their farmers - they can't make money decently, and instead of making the honest choice: There are too many people trying to do this job - some have to find another business - they try and blackmail money from the rest of the EU.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29844071</id>
	<title>Re:Ideally</title>
	<author>Saint Fnordius</author>
	<datestamp>1256297460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, there are provisions in the treaties that define the EU to allow for secession of member states. In fact, there is some grumbling about how to boot unruly nations from the EU, triggered by Ireland's initial "No" to the reform treaty. Due to its unique structure, the EU doesn't lend itself to comparisons with the USA well.</p><p>Also, the eastern states are too addicted to the funds from the EU to really rock the boat. They see how the EU and its predecessors helped Ireland and Spain turn from basket cases into relatively healthy economies. Poland especially made a lot of secessionist noise, but that only got the right wing voted out of power.</p><p>What we need over here is for the new treaty to be ratified, so that the parliament can better curb the commission when they bring such dunderheaded ideas to the floor.</p><p>Oh, and Iceland isn't a member yet, merely a candidate like Croatia and Turkey.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , there are provisions in the treaties that define the EU to allow for secession of member states .
In fact , there is some grumbling about how to boot unruly nations from the EU , triggered by Ireland 's initial " No " to the reform treaty .
Due to its unique structure , the EU does n't lend itself to comparisons with the USA well.Also , the eastern states are too addicted to the funds from the EU to really rock the boat .
They see how the EU and its predecessors helped Ireland and Spain turn from basket cases into relatively healthy economies .
Poland especially made a lot of secessionist noise , but that only got the right wing voted out of power.What we need over here is for the new treaty to be ratified , so that the parliament can better curb the commission when they bring such dunderheaded ideas to the floor.Oh , and Iceland is n't a member yet , merely a candidate like Croatia and Turkey .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, there are provisions in the treaties that define the EU to allow for secession of member states.
In fact, there is some grumbling about how to boot unruly nations from the EU, triggered by Ireland's initial "No" to the reform treaty.
Due to its unique structure, the EU doesn't lend itself to comparisons with the USA well.Also, the eastern states are too addicted to the funds from the EU to really rock the boat.
They see how the EU and its predecessors helped Ireland and Spain turn from basket cases into relatively healthy economies.
Poland especially made a lot of secessionist noise, but that only got the right wing voted out of power.What we need over here is for the new treaty to be ratified, so that the parliament can better curb the commission when they bring such dunderheaded ideas to the floor.Oh, and Iceland isn't a member yet, merely a candidate like Croatia and Turkey.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838383</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29839853</id>
	<title>Soo all one now has to do</title>
	<author>future assassin</author>
	<datestamp>1256204400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>is write a bot/virus that downlods/shares  music/software automatically with out the windows user knowing it. It them could send an email to the bits and bytes police stating that this person is sharing illegal files. This should shut down big chunk of windows users and people that use computers at work. I can see quite the profit drop for the ISP's and other mayham.</htmltext>
<tokenext>is write a bot/virus that downlods/shares music/software automatically with out the windows user knowing it .
It them could send an email to the bits and bytes police stating that this person is sharing illegal files .
This should shut down big chunk of windows users and people that use computers at work .
I can see quite the profit drop for the ISP 's and other mayham .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is write a bot/virus that downlods/shares  music/software automatically with out the windows user knowing it.
It them could send an email to the bits and bytes police stating that this person is sharing illegal files.
This should shut down big chunk of windows users and people that use computers at work.
I can see quite the profit drop for the ISP's and other mayham.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838133</id>
	<title>Re:88\% What the hell?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256238780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; let's stick to the facts.</p><p>You must be new here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; let 's stick to the facts.You must be new here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; let's stick to the facts.You must be new here.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837177</id>
	<title>Re:Damn French...</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1256235180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you ask me, I think that your government will likely subsidize the internet access or create local monopolies to make sure everyone is covered and then use those actions to justify intervention along the lines we're all afraid of.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you ask me , I think that your government will likely subsidize the internet access or create local monopolies to make sure everyone is covered and then use those actions to justify intervention along the lines we 're all afraid of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you ask me, I think that your government will likely subsidize the internet access or create local monopolies to make sure everyone is covered and then use those actions to justify intervention along the lines we're all afraid of.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836689</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836669</id>
	<title>88\% What the hell?!</title>
	<author>Killer Orca</author>
	<datestamp>1256233020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sorry if something is adopted by 88\% of the people then it should not be allowed to be removed by a smaller subset of people.  If older prestige European countries are able to railroad the EU this way then what is the point for other less-prestigious members to stay?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry if something is adopted by 88 \ % of the people then it should not be allowed to be removed by a smaller subset of people .
If older prestige European countries are able to railroad the EU this way then what is the point for other less-prestigious members to stay ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry if something is adopted by 88\% of the people then it should not be allowed to be removed by a smaller subset of people.
If older prestige European countries are able to railroad the EU this way then what is the point for other less-prestigious members to stay?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29840707</id>
	<title>Re:cultural protectionism</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256209080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>[troll]</p><p>there is no such thing as an American culture therefore there is nothing we should be protected against<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:muhaha (yeah I am french)</p><p>Quoted from "In the Beginning was the Command Line" by Neal Stephenson :</p><p>"The only real problem is that anyone who has no culture, other than this global monoculture, is completely screwed. Anyone who grows up watching TV, never sees any religion or philosophy, is raised in an atmosphere of moral relativism, learns about civics from watching bimbo eruptions on network TV news, and attends a university where postmodernists vie to outdo each other in demolishing traditional notions of truth and quality, is going to come out into the world as one pretty feckless human being. And--again--perhaps the goal of all this is to make us feckless so we won't nuke each other.</p><p>On the other hand, if you are raised within some specific culture, you end up with a basic set of tools that you can use to think about and understand the world. You might use those tools to reject the culture you were raised in, but at least you've got some tools."<br>[/troll]</p><p>back on the story I dont see a link between the bs your spouting and the amendment being dropped</p><p>just for the fun of it: (troll hat back on)<br>"in europe, there is another potent issue that does not exist in the usa: cultural irrelevancy. the french have been fighting to retain french culture for decades: funding french arts, fighting the emergence of english words into french usage, etc" hello ? who doesnt support its own economy ? do you think we still would be first touristic destination if we dropped our cultural identity ? and for what ?(cultural irrelevancy my ass, as if culture could ever be irrelevant) and please we do not need to fight to retain our culture, it sustain itself on its own pretty good imo</p><p>"now everyone speaks english in the world" seriously ?? are you that stupid ?? or do you suffer from the common misconception world == USA ?</p><p>"how the hell are you suppose to preserve danish and belgian culture in the face of the english onslaught?" you are kidding me right ? Crap on TV is just that: crap, not an ONSLAUGHT. And no , nobody speaks english in belgium (as a first language anyway) and danish speak well danish<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</p><p>"from the point of view of french national pride" we may be pridefull but at least we dont need buy off Nobel committees to get Nobel prizes<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D. As if a warmonger state like the usa could ever get it..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>[ troll ] there is no such thing as an American culture therefore there is nothing we should be protected against : muhaha ( yeah I am french ) Quoted from " In the Beginning was the Command Line " by Neal Stephenson : " The only real problem is that anyone who has no culture , other than this global monoculture , is completely screwed .
Anyone who grows up watching TV , never sees any religion or philosophy , is raised in an atmosphere of moral relativism , learns about civics from watching bimbo eruptions on network TV news , and attends a university where postmodernists vie to outdo each other in demolishing traditional notions of truth and quality , is going to come out into the world as one pretty feckless human being .
And--again--perhaps the goal of all this is to make us feckless so we wo n't nuke each other.On the other hand , if you are raised within some specific culture , you end up with a basic set of tools that you can use to think about and understand the world .
You might use those tools to reject the culture you were raised in , but at least you 've got some tools .
" [ /troll ] back on the story I dont see a link between the bs your spouting and the amendment being droppedjust for the fun of it : ( troll hat back on ) " in europe , there is another potent issue that does not exist in the usa : cultural irrelevancy .
the french have been fighting to retain french culture for decades : funding french arts , fighting the emergence of english words into french usage , etc " hello ?
who doesnt support its own economy ?
do you think we still would be first touristic destination if we dropped our cultural identity ?
and for what ?
( cultural irrelevancy my ass , as if culture could ever be irrelevant ) and please we do not need to fight to retain our culture , it sustain itself on its own pretty good imo " now everyone speaks english in the world " seriously ? ?
are you that stupid ? ?
or do you suffer from the common misconception world = = USA ?
" how the hell are you suppose to preserve danish and belgian culture in the face of the english onslaught ?
" you are kidding me right ?
Crap on TV is just that : crap , not an ONSLAUGHT .
And no , nobody speaks english in belgium ( as a first language anyway ) and danish speak well danish .. " from the point of view of french national pride " we may be pridefull but at least we dont need buy off Nobel committees to get Nobel prizes : D. As if a warmonger state like the usa could ever get it. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[troll]there is no such thing as an American culture therefore there is nothing we should be protected against :muhaha (yeah I am french)Quoted from "In the Beginning was the Command Line" by Neal Stephenson :"The only real problem is that anyone who has no culture, other than this global monoculture, is completely screwed.
Anyone who grows up watching TV, never sees any religion or philosophy, is raised in an atmosphere of moral relativism, learns about civics from watching bimbo eruptions on network TV news, and attends a university where postmodernists vie to outdo each other in demolishing traditional notions of truth and quality, is going to come out into the world as one pretty feckless human being.
And--again--perhaps the goal of all this is to make us feckless so we won't nuke each other.On the other hand, if you are raised within some specific culture, you end up with a basic set of tools that you can use to think about and understand the world.
You might use those tools to reject the culture you were raised in, but at least you've got some tools.
"[/troll]back on the story I dont see a link between the bs your spouting and the amendment being droppedjust for the fun of it: (troll hat back on)"in europe, there is another potent issue that does not exist in the usa: cultural irrelevancy.
the french have been fighting to retain french culture for decades: funding french arts, fighting the emergence of english words into french usage, etc" hello ?
who doesnt support its own economy ?
do you think we still would be first touristic destination if we dropped our cultural identity ?
and for what ?
(cultural irrelevancy my ass, as if culture could ever be irrelevant) and please we do not need to fight to retain our culture, it sustain itself on its own pretty good imo"now everyone speaks english in the world" seriously ??
are you that stupid ??
or do you suffer from the common misconception world == USA ?
"how the hell are you suppose to preserve danish and belgian culture in the face of the english onslaught?
" you are kidding me right ?
Crap on TV is just that: crap, not an ONSLAUGHT.
And no , nobody speaks english in belgium (as a first language anyway) and danish speak well danish .."from the point of view of french national pride" we may be pridefull but at least we dont need buy off Nobel committees to get Nobel prizes :D. As if a warmonger state like the usa could ever get it..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29840779</id>
	<title>Re:Damn French...</title>
	<author>Crayon Kid</author>
	<datestamp>1256209500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Believe me, sometimes, it sucks to be French....</p></div></blockquote><p>I believe you, and what do you mean "sometimes"?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Believe me , sometimes , it sucks to be French....I believe you , and what do you mean " sometimes " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Believe me, sometimes, it sucks to be French....I believe you, and what do you mean "sometimes"?
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29841729</id>
	<title>Re:cultural protectionism</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256216460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a Dane I can assure you Danish and Danish culture is not going anywhere. Please refrain from generalizing between vastly different countries, like France and Denmark.</p><p>The Danes are not xenophobes, and we have been embracing the international community and cooperation for decades. For instance all Danes must by force of law learn at least one second language in school from the third grade. English is the obvious choice for many, yet German, French and Spanish are also popular choices.</p><p>As for culture, then I will start to worry once we tear down our old royal castles and replaces them with similar American ones. What? You don't build castles? OK, then we will replace our cars with the high quality American offerings. Plastic dashboards you say? Well, hope you don't mind but we really prefer our German and Japanese cars actually.</p><p>So movies then. Sure the invasion of the American blockbusters will ruin Danish culture. Oh wait, no they won't, since Danish movie production is as strong as ever.</p><p>The language then. Well no, Danish isn't going anywhere. English is still - after 5 decades of compulsory public education in a second language - never heard spoken between Danes. While most adult Danes below the age of 50 is mostly fluent in English, we really only use it when communicating with foreigners. A fair few loaner words have sneaked in over the years, though they are mostly technological terms with no counterpart in Danish.</p><p>Sports then. American football replacing soccer? About 10 months after the heath death of the Universe, sorry.</p><p>Food? Junkfood like McD is generally available and considered just that, junkfood.</p><p>Say, exactly what does the US cultural export consist of, now that I think of it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a Dane I can assure you Danish and Danish culture is not going anywhere .
Please refrain from generalizing between vastly different countries , like France and Denmark.The Danes are not xenophobes , and we have been embracing the international community and cooperation for decades .
For instance all Danes must by force of law learn at least one second language in school from the third grade .
English is the obvious choice for many , yet German , French and Spanish are also popular choices.As for culture , then I will start to worry once we tear down our old royal castles and replaces them with similar American ones .
What ? You do n't build castles ?
OK , then we will replace our cars with the high quality American offerings .
Plastic dashboards you say ?
Well , hope you do n't mind but we really prefer our German and Japanese cars actually.So movies then .
Sure the invasion of the American blockbusters will ruin Danish culture .
Oh wait , no they wo n't , since Danish movie production is as strong as ever.The language then .
Well no , Danish is n't going anywhere .
English is still - after 5 decades of compulsory public education in a second language - never heard spoken between Danes .
While most adult Danes below the age of 50 is mostly fluent in English , we really only use it when communicating with foreigners .
A fair few loaner words have sneaked in over the years , though they are mostly technological terms with no counterpart in Danish.Sports then .
American football replacing soccer ?
About 10 months after the heath death of the Universe , sorry.Food ?
Junkfood like McD is generally available and considered just that , junkfood.Say , exactly what does the US cultural export consist of , now that I think of it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a Dane I can assure you Danish and Danish culture is not going anywhere.
Please refrain from generalizing between vastly different countries, like France and Denmark.The Danes are not xenophobes, and we have been embracing the international community and cooperation for decades.
For instance all Danes must by force of law learn at least one second language in school from the third grade.
English is the obvious choice for many, yet German, French and Spanish are also popular choices.As for culture, then I will start to worry once we tear down our old royal castles and replaces them with similar American ones.
What? You don't build castles?
OK, then we will replace our cars with the high quality American offerings.
Plastic dashboards you say?
Well, hope you don't mind but we really prefer our German and Japanese cars actually.So movies then.
Sure the invasion of the American blockbusters will ruin Danish culture.
Oh wait, no they won't, since Danish movie production is as strong as ever.The language then.
Well no, Danish isn't going anywhere.
English is still - after 5 decades of compulsory public education in a second language - never heard spoken between Danes.
While most adult Danes below the age of 50 is mostly fluent in English, we really only use it when communicating with foreigners.
A fair few loaner words have sneaked in over the years, though they are mostly technological terms with no counterpart in Danish.Sports then.
American football replacing soccer?
About 10 months after the heath death of the Universe, sorry.Food?
Junkfood like McD is generally available and considered just that, junkfood.Say, exactly what does the US cultural export consist of, now that I think of it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29845471</id>
	<title>Re:EU membership and issues of national sovereignt</title>
	<author>metrix007</author>
	<datestamp>1256309700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I also wonder why member states can force their local laws to be EU wide.....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I also wonder why member states can force their local laws to be EU wide.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also wonder why member states can force their local laws to be EU wide.....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838361</id>
	<title>Re:this will be a problem in the future.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256239860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you say that we will need more police?</p><p>Not at all.  Outsourcing police powers to private enterprises is quite profitable -especially when no judiciary oversight is required.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you say that we will need more police ? Not at all .
Outsourcing police powers to private enterprises is quite profitable -especially when no judiciary oversight is required .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you say that we will need more police?Not at all.
Outsourcing police powers to private enterprises is quite profitable -especially when no judiciary oversight is required.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836561</id>
	<title>The right to fast internet and network neutrality</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256232540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Any government big enough to give you everything, is big enough to take everything away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Any government big enough to give you everything , is big enough to take everything away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any government big enough to give you everything, is big enough to take everything away.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836761</id>
	<title>Greater freedom in Europe?</title>
	<author>Totenglocke</author>
	<datestamp>1256233380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>While we have plenty of bad things going on in the US, the frequency that we hear stories like this (or spying on the public, arresting kids for climbing trees, etc) from the EU really amazes me that there are people who try to claim that you have more freedom in Europe than in the US.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While we have plenty of bad things going on in the US , the frequency that we hear stories like this ( or spying on the public , arresting kids for climbing trees , etc ) from the EU really amazes me that there are people who try to claim that you have more freedom in Europe than in the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While we have plenty of bad things going on in the US, the frequency that we hear stories like this (or spying on the public, arresting kids for climbing trees, etc) from the EU really amazes me that there are people who try to claim that you have more freedom in Europe than in the US.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837839</id>
	<title>Re:Ideally</title>
	<author>Shatrat</author>
	<datestamp>1256237580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...and then the EU turns into the USA of the mid 1800s.<br>This seems like the logical conclusion of all this, unless they skip the civil war and go straight to stripping member states of power and consolidating it all in the central government.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...and then the EU turns into the USA of the mid 1800s.This seems like the logical conclusion of all this , unless they skip the civil war and go straight to stripping member states of power and consolidating it all in the central government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and then the EU turns into the USA of the mid 1800s.This seems like the logical conclusion of all this, unless they skip the civil war and go straight to stripping member states of power and consolidating it all in the central government.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836897</id>
	<title>Re:Apply it on MPs and Ministers first</title>
	<author>mikael</author>
	<datestamp>1256233860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Like the <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2008/08/02/another-police-raid-more-dead-dogs/" title="cato-at-liberty.org">Police raid on a Mayors home that left two family dogs dead</a> [cato-at-liberty.org] over a package of marijuana that was delivered to their home, even though <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2008/08/07/update-on-berwyn-heights-botched-raid/" title="cato-at-liberty.org">Police were well aware that a drug-smuggling ring was using the home addresses of uninvolved people as the destination for the package delivery.</a> [cato-at-liberty.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Like the Police raid on a Mayors home that left two family dogs dead [ cato-at-liberty.org ] over a package of marijuana that was delivered to their home , even though Police were well aware that a drug-smuggling ring was using the home addresses of uninvolved people as the destination for the package delivery .
[ cato-at-liberty.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like the Police raid on a Mayors home that left two family dogs dead [cato-at-liberty.org] over a package of marijuana that was delivered to their home, even though Police were well aware that a drug-smuggling ring was using the home addresses of uninvolved people as the destination for the package delivery.
[cato-at-liberty.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837947</id>
	<title>I blame the Irish</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1256238060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Irish rolled over on the Lisbon treaty after they got thrown a crumb about abortion<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and now the bastard Brussels bureaucrats think they can do as they like.    Coincidence?  Mais non, my dear 'Astingz.</p><p>Remember when they tried to sneak software patents in on page 637 paragraph 4 subsection B(2) of a bill about fishing net sizes?  You can't trust the fuckers, half are mad, half are corrupt and half are both.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Irish rolled over on the Lisbon treaty after they got thrown a crumb about abortion ... and now the bastard Brussels bureaucrats think they can do as they like .
Coincidence ? Mais non , my dear 'Astingz.Remember when they tried to sneak software patents in on page 637 paragraph 4 subsection B ( 2 ) of a bill about fishing net sizes ?
You ca n't trust the fuckers , half are mad , half are corrupt and half are both .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Irish rolled over on the Lisbon treaty after they got thrown a crumb about abortion ... and now the bastard Brussels bureaucrats think they can do as they like.
Coincidence?  Mais non, my dear 'Astingz.Remember when they tried to sneak software patents in on page 637 paragraph 4 subsection B(2) of a bill about fishing net sizes?
You can't trust the fuckers, half are mad, half are corrupt and half are both.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837119</id>
	<title>Call for boycott</title>
	<author>sxpert</author>
	<datestamp>1256234820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a public call for a worldwide boycott of all products coming out the entertainment industry, be it movies, music, tv programs, computer games of all sorts and whatever else.<br>this boycott shall continue until they all close shop.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a public call for a worldwide boycott of all products coming out the entertainment industry , be it movies , music , tv programs , computer games of all sorts and whatever else.this boycott shall continue until they all close shop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a public call for a worldwide boycott of all products coming out the entertainment industry, be it movies, music, tv programs, computer games of all sorts and whatever else.this boycott shall continue until they all close shop.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29843843</id>
	<title>Re:cultural protectionism</title>
	<author>qc\_dk</author>
	<datestamp>1256293860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>heck, even if you are danish, or belgian: how the hell are you suppose to preserve danish and belgian culture in the face of the english onslaught? protectionism seems appealing. even if, of course, it really makes no difference. its just nostalgia. resistance is futile</p></div><p>
First of all danish culture is quite similar to english and so is the language. Denmark is a small nation that has been dependent on trade since just about forever. The language and culture has been adapting to whatever was in vogue. First low germanic, then french, then high germanic and now english. So much so that even the grammar is different.
In western dialects of danish the article is used as in english (a house, the house / et hus, &#230; hus) but in eastern dialects the enlitic article is used like normal scandinavian (et hus, huset).
</p><p>
Actually I think that local cultures and languages have a much greater chance of keeping their culture intact than english. Because english is becoming the lingua franca of the world, english culture is becoming an indistinguishable mish mash, a lowest common denominator. If you say danish the first thing that comes to my mind is H.C.Andersen/Kierkeg&#229;rd, the Skagen painters, Carl Nielsen. Belgian: Cartoons(tintin), flemish golden age/surreallism, the saxophone. French: Voltaire, Impressionists, Debussy/Ravel. English: slashdot, sitcoms, pop music.
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>heck , even if you are danish , or belgian : how the hell are you suppose to preserve danish and belgian culture in the face of the english onslaught ?
protectionism seems appealing .
even if , of course , it really makes no difference .
its just nostalgia .
resistance is futile First of all danish culture is quite similar to english and so is the language .
Denmark is a small nation that has been dependent on trade since just about forever .
The language and culture has been adapting to whatever was in vogue .
First low germanic , then french , then high germanic and now english .
So much so that even the grammar is different .
In western dialects of danish the article is used as in english ( a house , the house / et hus ,   hus ) but in eastern dialects the enlitic article is used like normal scandinavian ( et hus , huset ) .
Actually I think that local cultures and languages have a much greater chance of keeping their culture intact than english .
Because english is becoming the lingua franca of the world , english culture is becoming an indistinguishable mish mash , a lowest common denominator .
If you say danish the first thing that comes to my mind is H.C.Andersen/Kierkeg   rd , the Skagen painters , Carl Nielsen .
Belgian : Cartoons ( tintin ) , flemish golden age/surreallism , the saxophone .
French : Voltaire , Impressionists , Debussy/Ravel .
English : slashdot , sitcoms , pop music .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>heck, even if you are danish, or belgian: how the hell are you suppose to preserve danish and belgian culture in the face of the english onslaught?
protectionism seems appealing.
even if, of course, it really makes no difference.
its just nostalgia.
resistance is futile
First of all danish culture is quite similar to english and so is the language.
Denmark is a small nation that has been dependent on trade since just about forever.
The language and culture has been adapting to whatever was in vogue.
First low germanic, then french, then high germanic and now english.
So much so that even the grammar is different.
In western dialects of danish the article is used as in english (a house, the house / et hus, æ hus) but in eastern dialects the enlitic article is used like normal scandinavian (et hus, huset).
Actually I think that local cultures and languages have a much greater chance of keeping their culture intact than english.
Because english is becoming the lingua franca of the world, english culture is becoming an indistinguishable mish mash, a lowest common denominator.
If you say danish the first thing that comes to my mind is H.C.Andersen/Kierkegård, the Skagen painters, Carl Nielsen.
Belgian: Cartoons(tintin), flemish golden age/surreallism, the saxophone.
French: Voltaire, Impressionists, Debussy/Ravel.
English: slashdot, sitcoms, pop music.

	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29843779</id>
	<title>You are totally misinformed</title>
	<author>ToddlerArmyofOne</author>
	<datestamp>1256292660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are two principles at work here. 1. EU decides more and more over time and the member states gradually lose power. 2. The individuals right to internet access.</p><p>This is a good decision just because it leaves power with the member states. It doesn't matter for the functioning of the EU what laws the individual member states have in this area, therefore no EU-law should be written about it. If a law within the EU is against someone human rights, there is a separate way of correcting that, in the confusingly named in the Council of Europe that has the The European Court of Human Rights. This court is not part of the EU system even if their charter of human rights is referred to in the EU-treaties.</p><p>The European Court of Human Rights is a court that convict the 47 member states (among them France and UK) when they have written a law that infringes on the citizens human rights. The laws related from France and UK are most likely to be struck down by The European Court of Human Rights. Therefore the Member States are doing the right thing when not interfering in this area.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are two principles at work here .
1. EU decides more and more over time and the member states gradually lose power .
2. The individuals right to internet access.This is a good decision just because it leaves power with the member states .
It does n't matter for the functioning of the EU what laws the individual member states have in this area , therefore no EU-law should be written about it .
If a law within the EU is against someone human rights , there is a separate way of correcting that , in the confusingly named in the Council of Europe that has the The European Court of Human Rights .
This court is not part of the EU system even if their charter of human rights is referred to in the EU-treaties.The European Court of Human Rights is a court that convict the 47 member states ( among them France and UK ) when they have written a law that infringes on the citizens human rights .
The laws related from France and UK are most likely to be struck down by The European Court of Human Rights .
Therefore the Member States are doing the right thing when not interfering in this area .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are two principles at work here.
1. EU decides more and more over time and the member states gradually lose power.
2. The individuals right to internet access.This is a good decision just because it leaves power with the member states.
It doesn't matter for the functioning of the EU what laws the individual member states have in this area, therefore no EU-law should be written about it.
If a law within the EU is against someone human rights, there is a separate way of correcting that, in the confusingly named in the Council of Europe that has the The European Court of Human Rights.
This court is not part of the EU system even if their charter of human rights is referred to in the EU-treaties.The European Court of Human Rights is a court that convict the 47 member states (among them France and UK) when they have written a law that infringes on the citizens human rights.
The laws related from France and UK are most likely to be struck down by The European Court of Human Rights.
Therefore the Member States are doing the right thing when not interfering in this area.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29840031</id>
	<title>Re:cultural protectionism</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256205360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>yeah... yoo stoopid EU countries. embrace english, coca-cola and all the good stuff.<br>otherwise, we smart usa people, cant understand you.<br>amen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yeah... yoo stoopid EU countries .
embrace english , coca-cola and all the good stuff.otherwise , we smart usa people , cant understand you.amen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yeah... yoo stoopid EU countries.
embrace english, coca-cola and all the good stuff.otherwise, we smart usa people, cant understand you.amen.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838239</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836969</id>
	<title>Re:88\% What the hell?!</title>
	<author>koiransuklaa</author>
	<datestamp>1256234160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Excuse me? 88\% of the parliament used to be for the amendment in its previous form (at least in a preliminary way). The amendment was changed, no doubt because of political compromises that the EP is famous of, and it still passed. Your interpretation is just wrong: these are the same people voting, the original amendment just never ended into a vote.</p><p>The story has a similarly biased interpretation: <i>The new update has completely removed this, meaning that governments now have legal grounds to force UK ISPs into disconnecting their customers from the Internet</i>. This is not true at all: The original amendment would have made sure ISPs could not do that without a ruling, but the current text doesn't give any legal ground for governments because it doesn't really change anything.</p><p>There may be some fishy deals behind this, but let's stick to the facts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Excuse me ?
88 \ % of the parliament used to be for the amendment in its previous form ( at least in a preliminary way ) .
The amendment was changed , no doubt because of political compromises that the EP is famous of , and it still passed .
Your interpretation is just wrong : these are the same people voting , the original amendment just never ended into a vote.The story has a similarly biased interpretation : The new update has completely removed this , meaning that governments now have legal grounds to force UK ISPs into disconnecting their customers from the Internet .
This is not true at all : The original amendment would have made sure ISPs could not do that without a ruling , but the current text does n't give any legal ground for governments because it does n't really change anything.There may be some fishy deals behind this , but let 's stick to the facts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Excuse me?
88\% of the parliament used to be for the amendment in its previous form (at least in a preliminary way).
The amendment was changed, no doubt because of political compromises that the EP is famous of, and it still passed.
Your interpretation is just wrong: these are the same people voting, the original amendment just never ended into a vote.The story has a similarly biased interpretation: The new update has completely removed this, meaning that governments now have legal grounds to force UK ISPs into disconnecting their customers from the Internet.
This is not true at all: The original amendment would have made sure ISPs could not do that without a ruling, but the current text doesn't give any legal ground for governments because it doesn't really change anything.There may be some fishy deals behind this, but let's stick to the facts.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838299</id>
	<title>Re:Oh great!</title>
	<author>Afforess</author>
	<datestamp>1256239500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or as Thomas Jefferson said, the tree of liberty must be occasionally watered with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or as Thomas Jefferson said , the tree of liberty must be occasionally watered with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or as Thomas Jefferson said, the tree of liberty must be occasionally watered with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29840861</id>
	<title>This does NOT "only affect UK"!</title>
	<author>AlgorithMan</author>
	<datestamp>1256210160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The linked article says<blockquote><div><p>meaning that governments and Rights Holders could now have grounds to force UK ISPs into disconnecting their customers from the Internet</p></div></blockquote><p>
which sounds like this only affected the UK, but it seems to me like this is a british website debating what the decision means FOR THEM - but the text of amendment 138 affects ALL states of the european union!...<br> <br>

I should become fortuneteller - only days ago I predicted this, because germanys new government decided against the 3-strikes model without much resistance by CDU/CSU, which I found very odd and I thought they wouldn't do this, unless they knew that the EU will soon "force us" to do it (so we "can't do anything about it - it came from Brussels - WE were against this!")</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The linked article saysmeaning that governments and Rights Holders could now have grounds to force UK ISPs into disconnecting their customers from the Internet which sounds like this only affected the UK , but it seems to me like this is a british website debating what the decision means FOR THEM - but the text of amendment 138 affects ALL states of the european union ! .. .
I should become fortuneteller - only days ago I predicted this , because germanys new government decided against the 3-strikes model without much resistance by CDU/CSU , which I found very odd and I thought they would n't do this , unless they knew that the EU will soon " force us " to do it ( so we " ca n't do anything about it - it came from Brussels - WE were against this !
" )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The linked article saysmeaning that governments and Rights Holders could now have grounds to force UK ISPs into disconnecting their customers from the Internet
which sounds like this only affected the UK, but it seems to me like this is a british website debating what the decision means FOR THEM - but the text of amendment 138 affects ALL states of the european union!...
I should become fortuneteller - only days ago I predicted this, because germanys new government decided against the 3-strikes model without much resistance by CDU/CSU, which I found very odd and I thought they wouldn't do this, unless they knew that the EU will soon "force us" to do it (so we "can't do anything about it - it came from Brussels - WE were against this!
")
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837011</id>
	<title>Re:this will be a problem in the future.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256234280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>It effects them in other ways as well. If a larger business doesn't wish to compete with a smaller, home-based business, all they need to do is accuse them thrree times of copyright infringement.

This could  also be used to crush all but the ruling political party, prohibit free speech, and eliminate anything the government or large corporations don't want people to hear about. This is great for aspiring dictators, who can now rise to power without changing a single law or firing a single bullet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It effects them in other ways as well .
If a larger business does n't wish to compete with a smaller , home-based business , all they need to do is accuse them thrree times of copyright infringement .
This could also be used to crush all but the ruling political party , prohibit free speech , and eliminate anything the government or large corporations do n't want people to hear about .
This is great for aspiring dictators , who can now rise to power without changing a single law or firing a single bullet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It effects them in other ways as well.
If a larger business doesn't wish to compete with a smaller, home-based business, all they need to do is accuse them thrree times of copyright infringement.
This could  also be used to crush all but the ruling political party, prohibit free speech, and eliminate anything the government or large corporations don't want people to hear about.
This is great for aspiring dictators, who can now rise to power without changing a single law or firing a single bullet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837165</id>
	<title>Re:this will be a problem in the future.</title>
	<author>spottedkangaroo</author>
	<datestamp>1256235120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>sigged.</htmltext>
<tokenext>sigged .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sigged.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838405</id>
	<title>Re:Unconstitutional</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256240040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>France with their Dear Facist Leader, Sarkozy can fuck off.</p></div><p>I'm confused. I thought France was the land of pinko-commie socialists. Can you people please make up your mind and settle on one stereotype? I'd like to know what terms I should use to be a proper American bashing other countries.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>France with their Dear Facist Leader , Sarkozy can fuck off.I 'm confused .
I thought France was the land of pinko-commie socialists .
Can you people please make up your mind and settle on one stereotype ?
I 'd like to know what terms I should use to be a proper American bashing other countries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>France with their Dear Facist Leader, Sarkozy can fuck off.I'm confused.
I thought France was the land of pinko-commie socialists.
Can you people please make up your mind and settle on one stereotype?
I'd like to know what terms I should use to be a proper American bashing other countries.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838383</id>
	<title>Re:Ideally</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256239980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Any EU state that tried to secede from the EU would face the same outcome as the U.S. South - forced reintegration.</p><p>If such a thing happened, it would probably be the western states (Union side) versus the eastern states (Secessionist) with the dividing line being the eastern Germany border.  Since the eastern states are more freedom-loving but not as strong militarily, they would be crushed.</p><p>It's also possible Ireland and Iceland would join the secessionist side, but the UK would quickly bring Ireland to its knees, and Iceland would be left isolated until after Poland/Austria/Greece/Turkey/et cetera were defeated.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Any EU state that tried to secede from the EU would face the same outcome as the U.S. South - forced reintegration.If such a thing happened , it would probably be the western states ( Union side ) versus the eastern states ( Secessionist ) with the dividing line being the eastern Germany border .
Since the eastern states are more freedom-loving but not as strong militarily , they would be crushed.It 's also possible Ireland and Iceland would join the secessionist side , but the UK would quickly bring Ireland to its knees , and Iceland would be left isolated until after Poland/Austria/Greece/Turkey/et cetera were defeated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any EU state that tried to secede from the EU would face the same outcome as the U.S. South - forced reintegration.If such a thing happened, it would probably be the western states (Union side) versus the eastern states (Secessionist) with the dividing line being the eastern Germany border.
Since the eastern states are more freedom-loving but not as strong militarily, they would be crushed.It's also possible Ireland and Iceland would join the secessionist side, but the UK would quickly bring Ireland to its knees, and Iceland would be left isolated until after Poland/Austria/Greece/Turkey/et cetera were defeated.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29840297</id>
	<title>EU membership and issues of national sovereignty</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256206920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How does this mesh with the earlier article regarding the Finnish law declaring internet access to be a right ? I've always been a little hazy of the issue of national sovereignty and membership in the EU.
<br>
<a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/10/14/2229231/-1Mb-Broadband-Access-Becomes-Legal-Right-In-Finland?from=rss" title="slashdot.org">http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/10/14/2229231/-1Mb-Broadband-Access-Becomes-Legal-Right-In-Finland?from=rss</a> [slashdot.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>How does this mesh with the earlier article regarding the Finnish law declaring internet access to be a right ?
I 've always been a little hazy of the issue of national sovereignty and membership in the EU .
http : //tech.slashdot.org/story/09/10/14/2229231/-1Mb-Broadband-Access-Becomes-Legal-Right-In-Finland ? from = rss [ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How does this mesh with the earlier article regarding the Finnish law declaring internet access to be a right ?
I've always been a little hazy of the issue of national sovereignty and membership in the EU.
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/10/14/2229231/-1Mb-Broadband-Access-Becomes-Legal-Right-In-Finland?from=rss [slashdot.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838495</id>
	<title>Nazi Dwarfs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256240520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is the revenge of the Nazi Dwarfs, Mr. S. and Mr. B.<br>The end for Europe is closer and closer...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is the revenge of the Nazi Dwarfs , Mr. S. and Mr. B.The end for Europe is closer and closer.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is the revenge of the Nazi Dwarfs, Mr. S. and Mr. B.The end for Europe is closer and closer...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29844623</id>
	<title>Re:I blame the Irish</title>
	<author>LordAndrewSama</author>
	<datestamp>1256304060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think a significant part of the problem stems from the fact that fishing net sizes need &gt; 637 pages.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)  If it was a one-liner "no bigger than a small pony" then they wouldn't have anywhere to try and hide these things.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think a significant part of the problem stems from the fact that fishing net sizes need &gt; 637 pages .
: ) If it was a one-liner " no bigger than a small pony " then they would n't have anywhere to try and hide these things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think a significant part of the problem stems from the fact that fishing net sizes need &gt; 637 pages.
:)  If it was a one-liner "no bigger than a small pony" then they wouldn't have anywhere to try and hide these things.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837481</id>
	<title>Re:Call for boycott</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256236320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The unforeseen boycott could be ISP's losing a very large percentage of their customers if this was strictly enforced.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The unforeseen boycott could be ISP 's losing a very large percentage of their customers if this was strictly enforced .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The unforeseen boycott could be ISP's losing a very large percentage of their customers if this was strictly enforced.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836573</id>
	<title>Finally</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256232600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>now we can lock out sarkozy<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>now we can lock out sarkozy : -P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>now we can lock out sarkozy :-P</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29883271</id>
	<title>Re:cultural protectionism</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256655600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are so absolutely right. </p><p>That's why you are going to make us a favor, abandon this oudated english language, and begin to communicate in Mandarin.</p><p>moron.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are so absolutely right .
That 's why you are going to make us a favor , abandon this oudated english language , and begin to communicate in Mandarin.moron .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are so absolutely right.
That's why you are going to make us a favor, abandon this oudated english language, and begin to communicate in Mandarin.moron.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837471</id>
	<title>Re:Human Rights?</title>
	<author>ionix5891</author>
	<datestamp>1256236260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lisbon Treaty hasnt passed yet completely in all states</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lisbon Treaty hasnt passed yet completely in all states</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lisbon Treaty hasnt passed yet completely in all states</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29844837</id>
	<title>Re:cultural protectionism</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256305560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>perhaps the canadians know best how to deal with being in the cultural shadow of a dominant neighbor: they send their comedians and actors to the usa where they feed that culture sometimes even better than the americans do. i always wondered why the hell there are so many successful canadian comedians in the usa: is there something fundamentally more absurd about being canadian? (snicker)</p></div><p>Two words: C&#233;line Dion.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>perhaps the canadians know best how to deal with being in the cultural shadow of a dominant neighbor : they send their comedians and actors to the usa where they feed that culture sometimes even better than the americans do .
i always wondered why the hell there are so many successful canadian comedians in the usa : is there something fundamentally more absurd about being canadian ?
( snicker ) Two words : C   line Dion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>perhaps the canadians know best how to deal with being in the cultural shadow of a dominant neighbor: they send their comedians and actors to the usa where they feed that culture sometimes even better than the americans do.
i always wondered why the hell there are so many successful canadian comedians in the usa: is there something fundamentally more absurd about being canadian?
(snicker)Two words: Céline Dion.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838511</id>
	<title>Human Rights</title>
	<author>your\_neighbor</author>
	<datestamp>1256240580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think access to internet will be, if not already is, a basic necessity. As such, I think the following articles from a stuff called "Universal Declaration of Human Rights" should be remembered by those greed politians:</p><p>-Article 9<br>No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.<br>-Article 10<br>Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.<br>-Article 11<br>Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.<br>No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.<br>-Article 12<br>No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.<br>-Article 19<br>Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal\_Declaration\_of\_Human\_Rights" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal\_Declaration\_of\_Human\_Rights</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think access to internet will be , if not already is , a basic necessity .
As such , I think the following articles from a stuff called " Universal Declaration of Human Rights " should be remembered by those greed politians : -Article 9No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest , detention or exile.-Article 10Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal , in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.-Article 11Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence , under national or international law , at the time when it was committed .
Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.-Article 12No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy , family , home or correspondence , nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation .
Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.-Article 19Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression ; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek , receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal \ _Declaration \ _of \ _Human \ _Rights [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think access to internet will be, if not already is, a basic necessity.
As such, I think the following articles from a stuff called "Universal Declaration of Human Rights" should be remembered by those greed politians:-Article 9No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.-Article 10Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.-Article 11Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed.
Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.-Article 12No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation.
Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.-Article 19Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal\_Declaration\_of\_Human\_Rights [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837617</id>
	<title>Re:Ah, that nice French law...</title>
	<author>cnvandev</author>
	<datestamp>1256236860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Didn't we try that already with that "United States" thing? I heard it didn't go so well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't we try that already with that " United States " thing ?
I heard it did n't go so well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't we try that already with that "United States" thing?
I heard it didn't go so well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838765</id>
	<title>Re:Get what we voted for:European election 2009 sc</title>
	<author>Dragonslicer</author>
	<datestamp>1256241900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What the hell, every group on that list has the same words in their names. Either every party over there is honest about being basically the same, or you just had to take America's different-name/same-thing idea and go completely opposite.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What the hell , every group on that list has the same words in their names .
Either every party over there is honest about being basically the same , or you just had to take America 's different-name/same-thing idea and go completely opposite .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the hell, every group on that list has the same words in their names.
Either every party over there is honest about being basically the same, or you just had to take America's different-name/same-thing idea and go completely opposite.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837149</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29852715</id>
	<title>Re:Unconstitutional</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1256299080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, Germany has no constitution. It only has a temporary "Grundgesetz" which people never had a chance to agree to, and whose temporarity is "forgotten".</p><p>Oh, and German government added a special clause to their "Grundgesetz", that puts EU decisions over those of the German government. Which, according to the "Grundgesetz" itself is "unconstitutional" (or rather, the "Grundgesetz" equivalent of that). And also without letting the people vote on it.</p><p>So we have an illegal set of laws, with an &mdash; according to that set of laws &mdash; illegal law in it. And now for the key point:</p><p>Those in the EU, that now have unlimited power to override German law and government... got <strong>never</strong> voted into power by the Germans. And never will.</p><p>We basically now have a, still quiet, but already fully empowered, totalitarian dictatorship. Yay..., or not?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , Germany has no constitution .
It only has a temporary " Grundgesetz " which people never had a chance to agree to , and whose temporarity is " forgotten " .Oh , and German government added a special clause to their " Grundgesetz " , that puts EU decisions over those of the German government .
Which , according to the " Grundgesetz " itself is " unconstitutional " ( or rather , the " Grundgesetz " equivalent of that ) .
And also without letting the people vote on it.So we have an illegal set of laws , with an    according to that set of laws    illegal law in it .
And now for the key point : Those in the EU , that now have unlimited power to override German law and government... got never voted into power by the Germans .
And never will.We basically now have a , still quiet , but already fully empowered , totalitarian dictatorship .
Yay... , or not ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, Germany has no constitution.
It only has a temporary "Grundgesetz" which people never had a chance to agree to, and whose temporarity is "forgotten".Oh, and German government added a special clause to their "Grundgesetz", that puts EU decisions over those of the German government.
Which, according to the "Grundgesetz" itself is "unconstitutional" (or rather, the "Grundgesetz" equivalent of that).
And also without letting the people vote on it.So we have an illegal set of laws, with an — according to that set of laws — illegal law in it.
And now for the key point:Those in the EU, that now have unlimited power to override German law and government... got never voted into power by the Germans.
And never will.We basically now have a, still quiet, but already fully empowered, totalitarian dictatorship.
Yay..., or not?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838301</id>
	<title>Re:Unconstitutional</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256239500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed. What they need is an extra law for the EU in general: "No Country may put forth suggested legislation unless their politicians can be held accountable to it."</p><p>This would stop France from trying to strongarm new corporate laws into practice since their Dear Facist Leader, Sarkozy, can not be held accountable for breaking the very laws he's pushing through despite the will of the people. (Even if he infringes on copyright a third time, he won't be losing his own internet access simply because he's in charge.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed .
What they need is an extra law for the EU in general : " No Country may put forth suggested legislation unless their politicians can be held accountable to it .
" This would stop France from trying to strongarm new corporate laws into practice since their Dear Facist Leader , Sarkozy , can not be held accountable for breaking the very laws he 's pushing through despite the will of the people .
( Even if he infringes on copyright a third time , he wo n't be losing his own internet access simply because he 's in charge .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed.
What they need is an extra law for the EU in general: "No Country may put forth suggested legislation unless their politicians can be held accountable to it.
"This would stop France from trying to strongarm new corporate laws into practice since their Dear Facist Leader, Sarkozy, can not be held accountable for breaking the very laws he's pushing through despite the will of the people.
(Even if he infringes on copyright a third time, he won't be losing his own internet access simply because he's in charge.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29844415</id>
	<title>But punishment without trial is  not allowed.</title>
	<author>jotaeleemeese</author>
	<datestamp>1256301960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As long as there i no judicial order issued, this EU directive will be easily laughed out of courts all around the EU.</p><p>The UK's government already realized this and has stopped peddling the disconnection of users without a legal order.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as there i no judicial order issued , this EU directive will be easily laughed out of courts all around the EU.The UK 's government already realized this and has stopped peddling the disconnection of users without a legal order .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as there i no judicial order issued, this EU directive will be easily laughed out of courts all around the EU.The UK's government already realized this and has stopped peddling the disconnection of users without a legal order.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29840141</id>
	<title>Re:Unconstitutional</title>
	<author>Balinares</author>
	<datestamp>1256205900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You probably mean it as a joke but this is in fact an excellent question.</p><p>Here's the point about France: the last three or four centuries of its history can be summed up as one long ongoing slo-mo rebellion of a varyingly disenfranchised majority against a well entrenched, rich and powerful minority.</p><p>The majority in question is very deeply attached to what rights and social benefits it managed to conquer over the centuries, knowing all too well from experience what happens when it lets its guard down. (Hence the constant strikes and latent social unrest.)</p><p>The powerful minority is very well connected and organized since De Gaulle, and it just so happens that the constitution dating back from De Gaulle is set up so 1/ only the two biggest parties have a chance to be relevant, but 2/ smaller parties can still attract votes long enough to hamper the biggest party in their respective wing.</p><p>Only the political landscape of France is made up of one big right wing party with just a few much smaller ones, and a larger array of smaller left wing parties.</p><p>That, and the right wing has been very good at preying on the latent xenophobic fears of an aging population, too.</p><p>Though I still think that in a Condorcet-fair election the right wing wouldn't stand a chance.</p><p>That's how you can end up with a pretty damn left-leaning people consistently ruled by a pretty damn right-leaning group of politicians. France has had less left wing presidents since WW2 than the USA, for chrissake. The mind boggles.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You probably mean it as a joke but this is in fact an excellent question.Here 's the point about France : the last three or four centuries of its history can be summed up as one long ongoing slo-mo rebellion of a varyingly disenfranchised majority against a well entrenched , rich and powerful minority.The majority in question is very deeply attached to what rights and social benefits it managed to conquer over the centuries , knowing all too well from experience what happens when it lets its guard down .
( Hence the constant strikes and latent social unrest .
) The powerful minority is very well connected and organized since De Gaulle , and it just so happens that the constitution dating back from De Gaulle is set up so 1/ only the two biggest parties have a chance to be relevant , but 2/ smaller parties can still attract votes long enough to hamper the biggest party in their respective wing.Only the political landscape of France is made up of one big right wing party with just a few much smaller ones , and a larger array of smaller left wing parties.That , and the right wing has been very good at preying on the latent xenophobic fears of an aging population , too.Though I still think that in a Condorcet-fair election the right wing would n't stand a chance.That 's how you can end up with a pretty damn left-leaning people consistently ruled by a pretty damn right-leaning group of politicians .
France has had less left wing presidents since WW2 than the USA , for chrissake .
The mind boggles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You probably mean it as a joke but this is in fact an excellent question.Here's the point about France: the last three or four centuries of its history can be summed up as one long ongoing slo-mo rebellion of a varyingly disenfranchised majority against a well entrenched, rich and powerful minority.The majority in question is very deeply attached to what rights and social benefits it managed to conquer over the centuries, knowing all too well from experience what happens when it lets its guard down.
(Hence the constant strikes and latent social unrest.
)The powerful minority is very well connected and organized since De Gaulle, and it just so happens that the constitution dating back from De Gaulle is set up so 1/ only the two biggest parties have a chance to be relevant, but 2/ smaller parties can still attract votes long enough to hamper the biggest party in their respective wing.Only the political landscape of France is made up of one big right wing party with just a few much smaller ones, and a larger array of smaller left wing parties.That, and the right wing has been very good at preying on the latent xenophobic fears of an aging population, too.Though I still think that in a Condorcet-fair election the right wing wouldn't stand a chance.That's how you can end up with a pretty damn left-leaning people consistently ruled by a pretty damn right-leaning group of politicians.
France has had less left wing presidents since WW2 than the USA, for chrissake.
The mind boggles.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836665</id>
	<title>EU Fail.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256233020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...a provision adopted on two occasions by an 88\% majority of the plenary assembly, and which aimed to protect citizens' right to Internet access.</p> </div><p> <i>European</i> democracy, defined: 88\% Majority beaten by \%0.001 business owners.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...a provision adopted on two occasions by an 88 \ % majority of the plenary assembly , and which aimed to protect citizens ' right to Internet access .
European democracy , defined : 88 \ % Majority beaten by \ % 0.001 business owners .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...a provision adopted on two occasions by an 88\% majority of the plenary assembly, and which aimed to protect citizens' right to Internet access.
European democracy, defined: 88\% Majority beaten by \%0.001 business owners.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29840421</id>
	<title>Re:Damn French...</title>
	<author>ultranova</author>
	<datestamp>1256207580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I wonder how this will affect the recently passed law here in Finland that internet access is a legal right for all citizens.</p></div> </blockquote><p>The same as every other time: our great leaders will fall over each other in their haste to bow to EU - and before that Soviet Union - to prove their loyalty and make themselves feel important. And of course the political elite also has tight ties to various corporations and lobby groups and gets bribes - sorry, campaign funding - from them just as everywhere else; just look for the debacle of the new Finnish copyright law for evidence.</p><p>I wonder how far they can push before someone <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen\_Schauman" title="wikipedia.org">pushes back</a> [wikipedia.org]? Our current prime minister called the national hero linked to in the article a terrorist (he wasn't; he killed a single oppressor and then himself, rather than kill and spread fear amongst people, which makes him an assassin), so I guess he's identifying with the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai\_Ivanovich\_Bobrikov" title="wikipedia.org">victim</a> [wikipedia.org], a hated oppressor who tried to destroy Finland for the sake of Russia, and trampled Finnish laws in the process.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how this will affect the recently passed law here in Finland that internet access is a legal right for all citizens .
The same as every other time : our great leaders will fall over each other in their haste to bow to EU - and before that Soviet Union - to prove their loyalty and make themselves feel important .
And of course the political elite also has tight ties to various corporations and lobby groups and gets bribes - sorry , campaign funding - from them just as everywhere else ; just look for the debacle of the new Finnish copyright law for evidence.I wonder how far they can push before someone pushes back [ wikipedia.org ] ?
Our current prime minister called the national hero linked to in the article a terrorist ( he was n't ; he killed a single oppressor and then himself , rather than kill and spread fear amongst people , which makes him an assassin ) , so I guess he 's identifying with the victim [ wikipedia.org ] , a hated oppressor who tried to destroy Finland for the sake of Russia , and trampled Finnish laws in the process .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how this will affect the recently passed law here in Finland that internet access is a legal right for all citizens.
The same as every other time: our great leaders will fall over each other in their haste to bow to EU - and before that Soviet Union - to prove their loyalty and make themselves feel important.
And of course the political elite also has tight ties to various corporations and lobby groups and gets bribes - sorry, campaign funding - from them just as everywhere else; just look for the debacle of the new Finnish copyright law for evidence.I wonder how far they can push before someone pushes back [wikipedia.org]?
Our current prime minister called the national hero linked to in the article a terrorist (he wasn't; he killed a single oppressor and then himself, rather than kill and spread fear amongst people, which makes him an assassin), so I guess he's identifying with the victim [wikipedia.org], a hated oppressor who tried to destroy Finland for the sake of Russia, and trampled Finnish laws in the process.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29843183</id>
	<title>Re:88\% What the hell?!</title>
	<author>lordholm</author>
	<datestamp>1256238720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your political compromise happens to be the fact that the parliament's own judicial department gave a no-go for the amendment since it was trying to detail regulate the judicial systems of the states.</p><p>The Union have not been given the authority to do so and trying to do so would be a massive step away from the principle of subsidiarity as it is today (not to say that there would be no legal basis for it either).</p><p>Though, in general the paragraph was good, and I would very much like to see the EP having authority of forcing that a state have A judicial process for certain things, but whatever you say, the EP has at the moment no mandate to write the paragraph in the form they did.</p><p>Funny in this entire thing, is that the MEPs that have been against Lisbon, against the Constitutional Treaty, against more powers to the Union are the ones who have been pushing most for the paragraph. One I heard from the EUL-NGL (the lefties (in the EU-sense, these are not Liberals in the American sense, but more or less borders with communism)) said something in the line of: "we are making a dangerous precedent if we allow judicial review to interfere with politics", the problem here is that that judicial review interpreted whether the EP was allowed to make legislation about the issue at hand. What they are saying (in American terms) is basically: "it would be a dangerous precedent if we allow the constitution to interfere with politics", a sort of scary statement.</p><p>The options they have, if they want to make politics in this area is that they make a non binding statement, those statements do not need to be compliant with the treaties.</p><p>As I said, I would actually like the Union and the EP to have legal authorities to make an amendment like the one they did, I also would like to see the amendment in law. But unfortunately, the treaty does not allow for that at the moment. Maybe it will be different when Lisbon come into effect, but I doubt it.</p><p>A fundamental principle for civilization is the "rule of law", I for one would not want to live in any place where due process is ignored and politics bypass the law as laid out. If you want to bypass the law, then by all means change the law, but do not try to sneak something in while the law is still there, that would just be absurd.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your political compromise happens to be the fact that the parliament 's own judicial department gave a no-go for the amendment since it was trying to detail regulate the judicial systems of the states.The Union have not been given the authority to do so and trying to do so would be a massive step away from the principle of subsidiarity as it is today ( not to say that there would be no legal basis for it either ) .Though , in general the paragraph was good , and I would very much like to see the EP having authority of forcing that a state have A judicial process for certain things , but whatever you say , the EP has at the moment no mandate to write the paragraph in the form they did.Funny in this entire thing , is that the MEPs that have been against Lisbon , against the Constitutional Treaty , against more powers to the Union are the ones who have been pushing most for the paragraph .
One I heard from the EUL-NGL ( the lefties ( in the EU-sense , these are not Liberals in the American sense , but more or less borders with communism ) ) said something in the line of : " we are making a dangerous precedent if we allow judicial review to interfere with politics " , the problem here is that that judicial review interpreted whether the EP was allowed to make legislation about the issue at hand .
What they are saying ( in American terms ) is basically : " it would be a dangerous precedent if we allow the constitution to interfere with politics " , a sort of scary statement.The options they have , if they want to make politics in this area is that they make a non binding statement , those statements do not need to be compliant with the treaties.As I said , I would actually like the Union and the EP to have legal authorities to make an amendment like the one they did , I also would like to see the amendment in law .
But unfortunately , the treaty does not allow for that at the moment .
Maybe it will be different when Lisbon come into effect , but I doubt it.A fundamental principle for civilization is the " rule of law " , I for one would not want to live in any place where due process is ignored and politics bypass the law as laid out .
If you want to bypass the law , then by all means change the law , but do not try to sneak something in while the law is still there , that would just be absurd .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your political compromise happens to be the fact that the parliament's own judicial department gave a no-go for the amendment since it was trying to detail regulate the judicial systems of the states.The Union have not been given the authority to do so and trying to do so would be a massive step away from the principle of subsidiarity as it is today (not to say that there would be no legal basis for it either).Though, in general the paragraph was good, and I would very much like to see the EP having authority of forcing that a state have A judicial process for certain things, but whatever you say, the EP has at the moment no mandate to write the paragraph in the form they did.Funny in this entire thing, is that the MEPs that have been against Lisbon, against the Constitutional Treaty, against more powers to the Union are the ones who have been pushing most for the paragraph.
One I heard from the EUL-NGL (the lefties (in the EU-sense, these are not Liberals in the American sense, but more or less borders with communism)) said something in the line of: "we are making a dangerous precedent if we allow judicial review to interfere with politics", the problem here is that that judicial review interpreted whether the EP was allowed to make legislation about the issue at hand.
What they are saying (in American terms) is basically: "it would be a dangerous precedent if we allow the constitution to interfere with politics", a sort of scary statement.The options they have, if they want to make politics in this area is that they make a non binding statement, those statements do not need to be compliant with the treaties.As I said, I would actually like the Union and the EP to have legal authorities to make an amendment like the one they did, I also would like to see the amendment in law.
But unfortunately, the treaty does not allow for that at the moment.
Maybe it will be different when Lisbon come into effect, but I doubt it.A fundamental principle for civilization is the "rule of law", I for one would not want to live in any place where due process is ignored and politics bypass the law as laid out.
If you want to bypass the law, then by all means change the law, but do not try to sneak something in while the law is still there, that would just be absurd.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837747</id>
	<title>Law of unintended consequences</title>
	<author>ACMENEWSLLC</author>
	<datestamp>1256237280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This would pave the way to mesh networking.   No ISPs.   Right now, mesh is in it's infancy.  10 years from now, people will be rolling their own mesh inter-network to get to these resources.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This would pave the way to mesh networking .
No ISPs .
Right now , mesh is in it 's infancy .
10 years from now , people will be rolling their own mesh inter-network to get to these resources .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This would pave the way to mesh networking.
No ISPs.
Right now, mesh is in it's infancy.
10 years from now, people will be rolling their own mesh inter-network to get to these resources.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838395</id>
	<title>Re:Oh great!</title>
	<author>Steauengeglase</author>
	<datestamp>1256240040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess I'm missing something obvious or I'm just flat out wrong, but shouldn't that be the other way around? You would forsake liberty (the right to act, unbound) for the sake of freedom (the right to act within the law, ie. to bind). Freedom falls in line with concepts like fraternity or union.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess I 'm missing something obvious or I 'm just flat out wrong , but should n't that be the other way around ?
You would forsake liberty ( the right to act , unbound ) for the sake of freedom ( the right to act within the law , ie .
to bind ) .
Freedom falls in line with concepts like fraternity or union .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess I'm missing something obvious or I'm just flat out wrong, but shouldn't that be the other way around?
You would forsake liberty (the right to act, unbound) for the sake of freedom (the right to act within the law, ie.
to bind).
Freedom falls in line with concepts like fraternity or union.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837111</id>
	<title>Wrong kind of punishment</title>
	<author>Mister Fright</author>
	<datestamp>1256234760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ignoring the fact that they are punishing people before it is even proven they did anything wrong, why are they taking away internet access?</p><p>For most crimes that I know of, you pay a fine or spend some time in jail.  Are they taking away internet access because that is what was used to commit their "crime"?</p><p>If that's the case, they should chop off your legs the third time you illegally cross a street.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ignoring the fact that they are punishing people before it is even proven they did anything wrong , why are they taking away internet access ? For most crimes that I know of , you pay a fine or spend some time in jail .
Are they taking away internet access because that is what was used to commit their " crime " ? If that 's the case , they should chop off your legs the third time you illegally cross a street .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ignoring the fact that they are punishing people before it is even proven they did anything wrong, why are they taking away internet access?For most crimes that I know of, you pay a fine or spend some time in jail.
Are they taking away internet access because that is what was used to commit their "crime"?If that's the case, they should chop off your legs the third time you illegally cross a street.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836595</id>
	<title>Shadenfreude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256232660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whenever I see stories of other countries governments and corporations (or is there a difference anymore?) trampling over citizens' rights even worse than is done here in the States, it just gives me this warm glowing feeling inside for some reason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whenever I see stories of other countries governments and corporations ( or is there a difference anymore ?
) trampling over citizens ' rights even worse than is done here in the States , it just gives me this warm glowing feeling inside for some reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whenever I see stories of other countries governments and corporations (or is there a difference anymore?
) trampling over citizens' rights even worse than is done here in the States, it just gives me this warm glowing feeling inside for some reason.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29848161</id>
	<title>wrong sports analogy?</title>
	<author>hb253</author>
	<datestamp>1256322420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What do Europeans know about 3 strikes?  Shouldn't it be 3 penalty kicks or 3 head butts?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What do Europeans know about 3 strikes ?
Should n't it be 3 penalty kicks or 3 head butts ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What do Europeans know about 3 strikes?
Shouldn't it be 3 penalty kicks or 3 head butts?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836549</id>
	<title>Oh great!</title>
	<author>RhapsodyGuru</author>
	<datestamp>1256232480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh well... as they always say... one must forsake freedom for the sake of preserving liberty.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh well... as they always say... one must forsake freedom for the sake of preserving liberty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh well... as they always say... one must forsake freedom for the sake of preserving liberty.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837799</id>
	<title>The slashdot summer is very missleading</title>
	<author>angel'o'sphere</author>
	<datestamp>1256237460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you read the original article (website) you see a small but important editing: <i> governments now have legal grounds to force <b>UK ISPs</b> into disconnecting</i>!!</p><p>No idea what <i>powers</i> the government in the UK might have, in germany no one can cut me from my internet connection without a judges ruling.</p><p>Furthermore, if you read the mentioned article then I see no paragraph that suggests that a "EU Paves the Way For Three-Strikes Cut-Off Policy" is happening at all.</p><p>The article clearly states: restrictions <i>may only be taken in exceptional circumstances and imposed if they are necessary, appopriate and proportionate within a democratic society</i>. Copyright violations by no means are a danger to society<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... unless ruled by a judge otherwise, nor is a cutting of the line in any way appropriated.</p><p>So I have the impression that the anti FUD is FUD itselv, very disappointing<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;D</p><p>angel'o'sphere</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you read the original article ( website ) you see a small but important editing : governments now have legal grounds to force UK ISPs into disconnecting !
! No idea what powers the government in the UK might have , in germany no one can cut me from my internet connection without a judges ruling.Furthermore , if you read the mentioned article then I see no paragraph that suggests that a " EU Paves the Way For Three-Strikes Cut-Off Policy " is happening at all.The article clearly states : restrictions may only be taken in exceptional circumstances and imposed if they are necessary , appopriate and proportionate within a democratic society .
Copyright violations by no means are a danger to society ... unless ruled by a judge otherwise , nor is a cutting of the line in any way appropriated.So I have the impression that the anti FUD is FUD itselv , very disappointing ; Dangel'o'sphere</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you read the original article (website) you see a small but important editing:  governments now have legal grounds to force UK ISPs into disconnecting!
!No idea what powers the government in the UK might have, in germany no one can cut me from my internet connection without a judges ruling.Furthermore, if you read the mentioned article then I see no paragraph that suggests that a "EU Paves the Way For Three-Strikes Cut-Off Policy" is happening at all.The article clearly states: restrictions may only be taken in exceptional circumstances and imposed if they are necessary, appopriate and proportionate within a democratic society.
Copyright violations by no means are a danger to society ... unless ruled by a judge otherwise, nor is a cutting of the line in any way appropriated.So I have the impression that the anti FUD is FUD itselv, very disappointing ;Dangel'o'sphere</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836571</id>
	<title>Unconstitutional</title>
	<author>Handbrewer</author>
	<datestamp>1256232600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I believe that this goes against pretty much any nation of EUs constitutions. You are innocent until proven guilty.

France with their Dear Facist Leader, Sarkozy can fuck off.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe that this goes against pretty much any nation of EUs constitutions .
You are innocent until proven guilty .
France with their Dear Facist Leader , Sarkozy can fuck off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe that this goes against pretty much any nation of EUs constitutions.
You are innocent until proven guilty.
France with their Dear Facist Leader, Sarkozy can fuck off.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837671</id>
	<title>WOOT fRp</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256237040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">for a moment and fly They lloked May be hurting the Transfer, Netscape</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>for a moment and fly They lloked May be hurting the Transfer , Netscape [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for a moment and fly They lloked May be hurting the Transfer, Netscape [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29840383</id>
	<title>so of course everyone in the eu should ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256207340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>so of course everyone in the eu should<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... immediately strike three times. bye bye isp's in europe! i wonder how many jobs and how much revenue would be lost.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>so of course everyone in the eu should ... immediately strike three times .
bye bye isp 's in europe !
i wonder how many jobs and how much revenue would be lost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so of course everyone in the eu should ... immediately strike three times.
bye bye isp's in europe!
i wonder how many jobs and how much revenue would be lost.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837101</id>
	<title>Re:88\% What the hell?!</title>
	<author>Narpak</author>
	<datestamp>1256234700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Basically smaller, financially weaker nations, either play by the arbitrary rules of the EU of they face restrictions/taxation on trade and other sort of petty punishments. And of course the stronger factions reserve special privileges for themselves; allowing crap like this to happen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Basically smaller , financially weaker nations , either play by the arbitrary rules of the EU of they face restrictions/taxation on trade and other sort of petty punishments .
And of course the stronger factions reserve special privileges for themselves ; allowing crap like this to happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Basically smaller, financially weaker nations, either play by the arbitrary rules of the EU of they face restrictions/taxation on trade and other sort of petty punishments.
And of course the stronger factions reserve special privileges for themselves; allowing crap like this to happen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836539</id>
	<title>Ah, that nice French law...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256232480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That nice French law which got pushed through late at night when most members of the parliament had already left the building...<br>
To be fair, it got revoked later on, and was voted on honestly. But the first passing of the law was a big sham.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That nice French law which got pushed through late at night when most members of the parliament had already left the building.. . To be fair , it got revoked later on , and was voted on honestly .
But the first passing of the law was a big sham .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That nice French law which got pushed through late at night when most members of the parliament had already left the building...
To be fair, it got revoked later on, and was voted on honestly.
But the first passing of the law was a big sham.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836801</id>
	<title>Finland legalizing use of unsecured wireless net</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256233500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Finland is considering to legalize unauthorized use of unsecured wireless networks. Wonder how such a policy would work in combination with a three strikes rule<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Finland is considering to legalize unauthorized use of unsecured wireless networks .
Wonder how such a policy would work in combination with a three strikes rule : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Finland is considering to legalize unauthorized use of unsecured wireless networks.
Wonder how such a policy would work in combination with a three strikes rule :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29841399</id>
	<title>The solution seems obvious</title>
	<author>BlahBlahWhatBlah</author>
	<datestamp>1256213880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Situation: <br>
It is easy to claim copyright over anything you personally produce.<br>
There appears to be no significant penalty for wrongful accusation of copyright infringement.<br>
They are paving the way for copyright infringement accusations (*3) to cause revocation of internet access.<br>
<br>
<br>
The Solution:<br>
Make some copyright material.<br>
Accuse the children of every European politician, every senior public servant and every corporate executive of copyright infringement, three times.<br>
We have computers. This could be done quite efficiently.<br>
Sit back and watch.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Situation : It is easy to claim copyright over anything you personally produce .
There appears to be no significant penalty for wrongful accusation of copyright infringement .
They are paving the way for copyright infringement accusations ( * 3 ) to cause revocation of internet access .
The Solution : Make some copyright material .
Accuse the children of every European politician , every senior public servant and every corporate executive of copyright infringement , three times .
We have computers .
This could be done quite efficiently .
Sit back and watch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Situation: 
It is easy to claim copyright over anything you personally produce.
There appears to be no significant penalty for wrongful accusation of copyright infringement.
They are paving the way for copyright infringement accusations (*3) to cause revocation of internet access.
The Solution:
Make some copyright material.
Accuse the children of every European politician, every senior public servant and every corporate executive of copyright infringement, three times.
We have computers.
This could be done quite efficiently.
Sit back and watch.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29840267</id>
	<title>Re:The slashdot summer is very missleading</title>
	<author>AlgorithMan</author>
	<datestamp>1256206740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>restrictions may only be taken in exceptional circumstances and imposed if they are necessary, appopriate and proportionate within a democratic society.</i> <br> <br>

Copyright violations by no means are a danger to society<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... unless ruled by a judge otherwise, nor is a cutting of the line in any way appropriated.</p></div></blockquote><p>

we are talking about the UK and politicians that have been brainwashed by the content-industry lobbyists...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>restrictions may only be taken in exceptional circumstances and imposed if they are necessary , appopriate and proportionate within a democratic society .
Copyright violations by no means are a danger to society ... unless ruled by a judge otherwise , nor is a cutting of the line in any way appropriated .
we are talking about the UK and politicians that have been brainwashed by the content-industry lobbyists.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> restrictions may only be taken in exceptional circumstances and imposed if they are necessary, appopriate and proportionate within a democratic society.
Copyright violations by no means are a danger to society ... unless ruled by a judge otherwise, nor is a cutting of the line in any way appropriated.
we are talking about the UK and politicians that have been brainwashed by the content-industry lobbyists...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837799</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837569</id>
	<title>only a matter of time for the USA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256236620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There have already been some moves to push for HADOPI laws in the USA.  Just wait and watch.  The same thing will happen here.  It's inevitable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There have already been some moves to push for HADOPI laws in the USA .
Just wait and watch .
The same thing will happen here .
It 's inevitable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There have already been some moves to push for HADOPI laws in the USA.
Just wait and watch.
The same thing will happen here.
It's inevitable.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837149</id>
	<title>Get what we voted for:European election 2009 scors</title>
	<author>Smegly</author>
	<datestamp>1256235060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Swing to the right for Europe meant dropping 138 was just a matter of time: <a href="http://www.europarl.europa.eu/parliament/archive/elections2009/en/index\_en.html" title="europa.eu" rel="nofollow">http://www.europarl.europa.eu/parliament/archive/elections2009/en/index\_en.html</a> [europa.eu]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Swing to the right for Europe meant dropping 138 was just a matter of time : http : //www.europarl.europa.eu/parliament/archive/elections2009/en/index \ _en.html [ europa.eu ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Swing to the right for Europe meant dropping 138 was just a matter of time: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/parliament/archive/elections2009/en/index\_en.html [europa.eu]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837139</id>
	<title>Damn Republicans!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256235000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Always trying to keep the man down!  Censorship, holding back rights, they.. wait.. what?  This is from the "Enlightened Europeans"!?<br> <br>

Nevermind, it's OK then.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Always trying to keep the man down !
Censorship , holding back rights , they.. wait.. what ?
This is from the " Enlightened Europeans " ! ?
Nevermind , it 's OK then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Always trying to keep the man down!
Censorship, holding back rights, they.. wait.. what?
This is from the "Enlightened Europeans"!?
Nevermind, it's OK then.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29841823</id>
	<title>Re:this will be a problem in the future.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256217660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does the law mean that if Microsoft is found guilty of abuse of customers three times, they will be banned from doing business via the internet?  If so, I might become a fan of that law.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does the law mean that if Microsoft is found guilty of abuse of customers three times , they will be banned from doing business via the internet ?
If so , I might become a fan of that law .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does the law mean that if Microsoft is found guilty of abuse of customers three times, they will be banned from doing business via the internet?
If so, I might become a fan of that law.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836543</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29840107</id>
	<title>Re:this will be a problem in the future.</title>
	<author>Kryptonian Jor-El</author>
	<datestamp>1256205720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Want to know the irony of this whole "3-strikes" bullshit? Nicolas Sarcozy, (Pres of France for my fellow ignorants) was the one who started this whole thing. His administration has openly engaged in copyright infringment...
<br> <br>
<a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091008/2344176470.shtml" title="techdirt.com">http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091008/2344176470.shtml</a> [techdirt.com]
<br> <br>
Apparently some DVD was made about him, to which the publisher only made 50 copies. Sarcozy's people then made an additional 400 copies without permission.
<br> <br>
What a dumb fuck</htmltext>
<tokenext>Want to know the irony of this whole " 3-strikes " bullshit ?
Nicolas Sarcozy , ( Pres of France for my fellow ignorants ) was the one who started this whole thing .
His administration has openly engaged in copyright infringment.. . http : //www.techdirt.com/articles/20091008/2344176470.shtml [ techdirt.com ] Apparently some DVD was made about him , to which the publisher only made 50 copies .
Sarcozy 's people then made an additional 400 copies without permission .
What a dumb fuck</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Want to know the irony of this whole "3-strikes" bullshit?
Nicolas Sarcozy, (Pres of France for my fellow ignorants) was the one who started this whole thing.
His administration has openly engaged in copyright infringment...
 
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091008/2344176470.shtml [techdirt.com]
 
Apparently some DVD was made about him, to which the publisher only made 50 copies.
Sarcozy's people then made an additional 400 copies without permission.
What a dumb fuck</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837997</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838147</id>
	<title>Re:Call for boycott</title>
	<author>Anonymous McCartneyf</author>
	<datestamp>1256238840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hey, even some members of the entertainment industry are against this...  I know Paul McCartney is, anyhow.<br>
And don't boycott any software companies that aren't also in traditional media -- this likely isn't their idea.  Films will still have theaters, music will still have radio and PA systems, TV will still have over-the-air broadcasts and DVD box sets -- but an awful lot of software is dependent on the internet to run as intended...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , even some members of the entertainment industry are against this... I know Paul McCartney is , anyhow .
And do n't boycott any software companies that are n't also in traditional media -- this likely is n't their idea .
Films will still have theaters , music will still have radio and PA systems , TV will still have over-the-air broadcasts and DVD box sets -- but an awful lot of software is dependent on the internet to run as intended.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, even some members of the entertainment industry are against this...  I know Paul McCartney is, anyhow.
And don't boycott any software companies that aren't also in traditional media -- this likely isn't their idea.
Films will still have theaters, music will still have radio and PA systems, TV will still have over-the-air broadcasts and DVD box sets -- but an awful lot of software is dependent on the internet to run as intended...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837119</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837301</id>
	<title>Re:Damn French...</title>
	<author>david.negrier</author>
	<datestamp>1256235600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>In other news...
The 3-strikes law is definitely adopted in France, after the "Conseil constitutionnel" (an equivalent of the Supreme Court) validated the law:<br>
<a href="http://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/2009/10/22/01002-20091022ARTFIG00615-le-conseil-constitutionnel-valide-la-loi-hadopi-2-.php" title="lefigaro.fr" rel="nofollow">http://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/2009/10/22/01002-20091022ARTFIG00615-le-conseil-constitutionnel-valide-la-loi-hadopi-2-.php</a> [lefigaro.fr]
 (French article)<br> <br>Two very bad news in the same day.
Believe me, sometimes, it sucks to be French....
<br> <br>
On the other hand, I can't wait to see if they will ever manage to have the law just working.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In other news.. . The 3-strikes law is definitely adopted in France , after the " Conseil constitutionnel " ( an equivalent of the Supreme Court ) validated the law : http : //www.lefigaro.fr/politique/2009/10/22/01002-20091022ARTFIG00615-le-conseil-constitutionnel-valide-la-loi-hadopi-2-.php [ lefigaro.fr ] ( French article ) Two very bad news in the same day .
Believe me , sometimes , it sucks to be French... . On the other hand , I ca n't wait to see if they will ever manage to have the law just working .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In other news...
The 3-strikes law is definitely adopted in France, after the "Conseil constitutionnel" (an equivalent of the Supreme Court) validated the law:
http://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/2009/10/22/01002-20091022ARTFIG00615-le-conseil-constitutionnel-valide-la-loi-hadopi-2-.php [lefigaro.fr]
 (French article) Two very bad news in the same day.
Believe me, sometimes, it sucks to be French....
 
On the other hand, I can't wait to see if they will ever manage to have the law just working.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836689</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29839769</id>
	<title>Re:Get what we voted for:European election 2009 sc</title>
	<author>marcansoft</author>
	<datestamp>1256203980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Meh, where I live (Spain), the left wing is in bed with the (equivalents of the) *AAs and it's in fact the right wing which is promising to abolish compulsive levies on digital storage media (HDDs, cellphones, flash drives, you name it) if they get elected.</p><p>These days I find that "left" vs. "right" means pretty much squat. Just vote for the least evil.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Meh , where I live ( Spain ) , the left wing is in bed with the ( equivalents of the ) * AAs and it 's in fact the right wing which is promising to abolish compulsive levies on digital storage media ( HDDs , cellphones , flash drives , you name it ) if they get elected.These days I find that " left " vs. " right " means pretty much squat .
Just vote for the least evil .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meh, where I live (Spain), the left wing is in bed with the (equivalents of the) *AAs and it's in fact the right wing which is promising to abolish compulsive levies on digital storage media (HDDs, cellphones, flash drives, you name it) if they get elected.These days I find that "left" vs. "right" means pretty much squat.
Just vote for the least evil.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837149</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29843825</id>
	<title>Not just the French</title>
	<author>dugeen</author>
	<datestamp>1256293500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's the same in the UK - the government are rushing so fast into a no-evidence, no-trial, accusation equals conviction setup for this that even the ISPs are saying it's not right.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the same in the UK - the government are rushing so fast into a no-evidence , no-trial , accusation equals conviction setup for this that even the ISPs are saying it 's not right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the same in the UK - the government are rushing so fast into a no-evidence, no-trial, accusation equals conviction setup for this that even the ISPs are saying it's not right.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29844679</id>
	<title>Re:this will be a problem in the future.</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1256304360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It wouldn't be so bad if they did apply it equally to <i>big</i> businesses.</p><p>For example, maybe the record companies would think twice, if say, EMI got cut off due to filesharing (as recently occurred, due to Lily Allen's "mix tapes" found to be on their servers).</p><p>Also note that, even according to the UK Government's own figures (which is hardly going to be biased in favour of p2p, given it wanting to also introduce these laws), the alleged damages from software piracy by businesses in <b>144 times greater</b> than alleged damages for music, TV and films over p2p (source: the Government consultation document on this proposed law).</p><p>But I suspect it'll be one rule for them, and another for the rest of us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would n't be so bad if they did apply it equally to big businesses.For example , maybe the record companies would think twice , if say , EMI got cut off due to filesharing ( as recently occurred , due to Lily Allen 's " mix tapes " found to be on their servers ) .Also note that , even according to the UK Government 's own figures ( which is hardly going to be biased in favour of p2p , given it wanting to also introduce these laws ) , the alleged damages from software piracy by businesses in 144 times greater than alleged damages for music , TV and films over p2p ( source : the Government consultation document on this proposed law ) .But I suspect it 'll be one rule for them , and another for the rest of us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It wouldn't be so bad if they did apply it equally to big businesses.For example, maybe the record companies would think twice, if say, EMI got cut off due to filesharing (as recently occurred, due to Lily Allen's "mix tapes" found to be on their servers).Also note that, even according to the UK Government's own figures (which is hardly going to be biased in favour of p2p, given it wanting to also introduce these laws), the alleged damages from software piracy by businesses in 144 times greater than alleged damages for music, TV and films over p2p (source: the Government consultation document on this proposed law).But I suspect it'll be one rule for them, and another for the rest of us.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836543</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836823</id>
	<title>Re:Ah, that nice French law...</title>
	<author>Carewolf</author>
	<datestamp>1256233620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess we then have to rise up, put the politicians to the sword, and burn their property, while taking adequate precausions to safeguard the conformerity with the idea that their life and property is sanctosant.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess we then have to rise up , put the politicians to the sword , and burn their property , while taking adequate precausions to safeguard the conformerity with the idea that their life and property is sanctosant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess we then have to rise up, put the politicians to the sword, and burn their property, while taking adequate precausions to safeguard the conformerity with the idea that their life and property is sanctosant.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836539</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29840013</id>
	<title>Is it the same with phone lines?</title>
	<author>Dj\_fishlover</author>
	<datestamp>1256205240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Were I to sing a copyrighted song, and a recipient of the call tip the copyright holder and they file a complaint, and this was to happen 3 times, would I get my phone line disconnected?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Were I to sing a copyrighted song , and a recipient of the call tip the copyright holder and they file a complaint , and this was to happen 3 times , would I get my phone line disconnected ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Were I to sing a copyrighted song, and a recipient of the call tip the copyright holder and they file a complaint, and this was to happen 3 times, would I get my phone line disconnected?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29840797</id>
	<title>Re:Unconstitutional</title>
	<author>Snufu</author>
	<datestamp>1256209620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>French leadership is right of American leadership. Okay, who swapped Earths when I wasn't looking?</htmltext>
<tokenext>French leadership is right of American leadership .
Okay , who swapped Earths when I was n't looking ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>French leadership is right of American leadership.
Okay, who swapped Earths when I wasn't looking?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836571</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29841397</id>
	<title>Re:cultural protectionism</title>
	<author>Anne Honime</author>
	<datestamp>1256213880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>its all rather silly and absurd from an american perspective: hey france, history spoke, and you lost, and the british won. now everyone speaks english in the world, shut up, get over it, and deal with it</p></div><p>Wait a couple of years until you begin learning chinese, and see if that's easy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>its all rather silly and absurd from an american perspective : hey france , history spoke , and you lost , and the british won .
now everyone speaks english in the world , shut up , get over it , and deal with itWait a couple of years until you begin learning chinese , and see if that 's easy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>its all rather silly and absurd from an american perspective: hey france, history spoke, and you lost, and the british won.
now everyone speaks english in the world, shut up, get over it, and deal with itWait a couple of years until you begin learning chinese, and see if that's easy.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838239</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838211</id>
	<title>Re:Unconstitutional</title>
	<author>aaandre</author>
	<datestamp>1256239140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>France is just the beginning, an experiment. Believe me, RIAA is watching this closely and setting lobbying cash aside for similar laws for YOU.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>France is just the beginning , an experiment .
Believe me , RIAA is watching this closely and setting lobbying cash aside for similar laws for YOU .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>France is just the beginning, an experiment.
Believe me, RIAA is watching this closely and setting lobbying cash aside for similar laws for YOU.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836571</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836963</id>
	<title>Policy laundering</title>
	<author>tomtomtom</author>
	<datestamp>1256234160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seems to me like a pretty classic case of France engaging in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy\_laundering" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">policy laundering</a> [wikipedia.org] after this law was overturned by its own constitutional court.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems to me like a pretty classic case of France engaging in policy laundering [ wikipedia.org ] after this law was overturned by its own constitutional court .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems to me like a pretty classic case of France engaging in policy laundering [wikipedia.org] after this law was overturned by its own constitutional court.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838239</id>
	<title>cultural protectionism</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256239200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>in the usa, the story is purely idiot distributors fighting their irrelevancy in the age of the internet</p><p>in europe, there is another potent issue that does not exist in the usa: cultural irrelevancy. the french have been fighting to retain french culture for decades: funding french arts, fighting the emergence of english words into french usage, etc</p><p>its all rather silly and absurd from an american perspective: hey france, history spoke, and you lost, and the british won. now everyone speaks english in the world, shut up, get over it, and deal with it</p><p>but from the point of view of french national pride, you can see why the fight here is not simple and straightforward as it is in the usa</p><p>heck, even if you are danish, or belgian: how the hell are you suppose to preserve danish and belgian culture in the face of the english onslaught? protectionism seems appealing. even if, of course, it really makes no difference. its just nostalgia. resistance is futile</p><p>perhaps the canadians know best how to deal with being in the cultural shadow of a dominant neighbor: they send their comedians and actors to the usa where they feed that culture sometimes even better than the americans do. i always wondered why the hell there are so many successful canadian comedians in the usa: is there something fundamentally more absurd about being canadian? (snicker)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>in the usa , the story is purely idiot distributors fighting their irrelevancy in the age of the internetin europe , there is another potent issue that does not exist in the usa : cultural irrelevancy .
the french have been fighting to retain french culture for decades : funding french arts , fighting the emergence of english words into french usage , etcits all rather silly and absurd from an american perspective : hey france , history spoke , and you lost , and the british won .
now everyone speaks english in the world , shut up , get over it , and deal with itbut from the point of view of french national pride , you can see why the fight here is not simple and straightforward as it is in the usaheck , even if you are danish , or belgian : how the hell are you suppose to preserve danish and belgian culture in the face of the english onslaught ?
protectionism seems appealing .
even if , of course , it really makes no difference .
its just nostalgia .
resistance is futileperhaps the canadians know best how to deal with being in the cultural shadow of a dominant neighbor : they send their comedians and actors to the usa where they feed that culture sometimes even better than the americans do .
i always wondered why the hell there are so many successful canadian comedians in the usa : is there something fundamentally more absurd about being canadian ?
( snicker )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in the usa, the story is purely idiot distributors fighting their irrelevancy in the age of the internetin europe, there is another potent issue that does not exist in the usa: cultural irrelevancy.
the french have been fighting to retain french culture for decades: funding french arts, fighting the emergence of english words into french usage, etcits all rather silly and absurd from an american perspective: hey france, history spoke, and you lost, and the british won.
now everyone speaks english in the world, shut up, get over it, and deal with itbut from the point of view of french national pride, you can see why the fight here is not simple and straightforward as it is in the usaheck, even if you are danish, or belgian: how the hell are you suppose to preserve danish and belgian culture in the face of the english onslaught?
protectionism seems appealing.
even if, of course, it really makes no difference.
its just nostalgia.
resistance is futileperhaps the canadians know best how to deal with being in the cultural shadow of a dominant neighbor: they send their comedians and actors to the usa where they feed that culture sometimes even better than the americans do.
i always wondered why the hell there are so many successful canadian comedians in the usa: is there something fundamentally more absurd about being canadian?
(snicker)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29841373</id>
	<title>Hwo does it pave way for three-strikes spec?</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1256213760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Why is "3"  such a magic number?   Doesn't it pave the way for 0 strike or 1 strike policies too?
</p><p>
Doesn't it make sense to not allow suspected possible future downloaders to connect to the internet in the first place?
</p><p>
And why wait til the third strike before making it permanent, why not disconnect the first or second time?
</p><p>
Why not allow at least 4 chances,  or probation, ec?     Where does the idea come from that "3 times,"  and you're permanently disconnected is a good idea?
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is " 3 " such a magic number ?
Does n't it pave the way for 0 strike or 1 strike policies too ?
Does n't it make sense to not allow suspected possible future downloaders to connect to the internet in the first place ?
And why wait til the third strike before making it permanent , why not disconnect the first or second time ?
Why not allow at least 4 chances , or probation , ec ?
Where does the idea come from that " 3 times , " and you 're permanently disconnected is a good idea ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Why is "3"  such a magic number?
Doesn't it pave the way for 0 strike or 1 strike policies too?
Doesn't it make sense to not allow suspected possible future downloaders to connect to the internet in the first place?
And why wait til the third strike before making it permanent, why not disconnect the first or second time?
Why not allow at least 4 chances,  or probation, ec?
Where does the idea come from that "3 times,"  and you're permanently disconnected is a good idea?
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838447</id>
	<title>Re:Shadenfreude</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1256240220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In other words - the government brought about the collapse *on purpose*.  It was not a free market.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In other words - the government brought about the collapse * on purpose * .
It was not a free market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In other words - the government brought about the collapse *on purpose*.
It was not a free market.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836589</id>
	<title>Won't last</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256232600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They are fighting against the tide here. These provisions won't last long when the courts start hearing cases brought by people cut off from the internets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are fighting against the tide here .
These provisions wo n't last long when the courts start hearing cases brought by people cut off from the internets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are fighting against the tide here.
These provisions won't last long when the courts start hearing cases brought by people cut off from the internets.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29839277</id>
	<title>Re:this will be a problem in the future.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256244540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>This could also be used to crush all but the ruling political party, prohibit free speech, and eliminate anything the government or large corporations don't want people to hear about.</p></div> </blockquote><p>This is precisely why I think that the whole concept of an ISP is fundamentally flawed. Your Internet connection shouldn't be dependant on a company, government, or any other entity. Instead, we should build a mesh of wireless devices, where your computer communicates with nearby ones, they communicate with those further away, and so on all the way to the other side of the world. To solve the issues with latency, we could still have large publicly owned backbone wires serving the function of highways; but your actual connection would be provided by everyone near you.</p><p>This kind of systen would make it utterly impossible to cut anyone off the Net, and if implemented properly, would also make communications pretty much untracable. However, I'm afraid that it's already too late: now that powers that be know the threat networking presents them, they'll look at any such development like a hawk. Perhaps small and cheap "insect robots" could be used to get the base mesh going?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This could also be used to crush all but the ruling political party , prohibit free speech , and eliminate anything the government or large corporations do n't want people to hear about .
This is precisely why I think that the whole concept of an ISP is fundamentally flawed .
Your Internet connection should n't be dependant on a company , government , or any other entity .
Instead , we should build a mesh of wireless devices , where your computer communicates with nearby ones , they communicate with those further away , and so on all the way to the other side of the world .
To solve the issues with latency , we could still have large publicly owned backbone wires serving the function of highways ; but your actual connection would be provided by everyone near you.This kind of systen would make it utterly impossible to cut anyone off the Net , and if implemented properly , would also make communications pretty much untracable .
However , I 'm afraid that it 's already too late : now that powers that be know the threat networking presents them , they 'll look at any such development like a hawk .
Perhaps small and cheap " insect robots " could be used to get the base mesh going ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This could also be used to crush all but the ruling political party, prohibit free speech, and eliminate anything the government or large corporations don't want people to hear about.
This is precisely why I think that the whole concept of an ISP is fundamentally flawed.
Your Internet connection shouldn't be dependant on a company, government, or any other entity.
Instead, we should build a mesh of wireless devices, where your computer communicates with nearby ones, they communicate with those further away, and so on all the way to the other side of the world.
To solve the issues with latency, we could still have large publicly owned backbone wires serving the function of highways; but your actual connection would be provided by everyone near you.This kind of systen would make it utterly impossible to cut anyone off the Net, and if implemented properly, would also make communications pretty much untracable.
However, I'm afraid that it's already too late: now that powers that be know the threat networking presents them, they'll look at any such development like a hawk.
Perhaps small and cheap "insect robots" could be used to get the base mesh going?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837997</id>
	<title>Re:this will be a problem in the future.</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1256238240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One would think this idea also violated the EU's Charter of Rights:</p><p>Article 11 - "Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers."    "The freedom and pluralism of the media shall be respected."</p><p>One could also argue that blocking the internet interferes with Article 14 - "Everyone has the right to education and to have access to vocational and continuing training."  Think of the children!  They will be cut off from access to online education.</p><p>And Articles 47 "Everyone whose rights and freedoms guaranteed by the law of the Union are violated has the right to an effective remedy before a tribunal in compliance with the conditions laid down in this Article." - and 48 - "Everyone who has been charged shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law."</p><p>The Three-Strike law is clearly unconstitutional within the EU's dominion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One would think this idea also violated the EU 's Charter of Rights : Article 11 - " Everyone has the right to freedom of expression .
This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers .
" " The freedom and pluralism of the media shall be respected .
" One could also argue that blocking the internet interferes with Article 14 - " Everyone has the right to education and to have access to vocational and continuing training .
" Think of the children !
They will be cut off from access to online education.And Articles 47 " Everyone whose rights and freedoms guaranteed by the law of the Union are violated has the right to an effective remedy before a tribunal in compliance with the conditions laid down in this Article .
" - and 48 - " Everyone who has been charged shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law .
" The Three-Strike law is clearly unconstitutional within the EU 's dominion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One would think this idea also violated the EU's Charter of Rights:Article 11 - "Everyone has the right to freedom of expression.
This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers.
"    "The freedom and pluralism of the media shall be respected.
"One could also argue that blocking the internet interferes with Article 14 - "Everyone has the right to education and to have access to vocational and continuing training.
"  Think of the children!
They will be cut off from access to online education.And Articles 47 "Everyone whose rights and freedoms guaranteed by the law of the Union are violated has the right to an effective remedy before a tribunal in compliance with the conditions laid down in this Article.
" - and 48 - "Everyone who has been charged shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law.
"The Three-Strike law is clearly unconstitutional within the EU's dominion.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29839807</id>
	<title>Re:cultural protectionism</title>
	<author>orangedan</author>
	<datestamp>1256204220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't think you have any right to comment on culture and English when you think you are too important to even observe the simple laws of grammar.  There is something called a shift key, I suggest you use it.
<br> <br>
Secondly, this entire comment is arrogant.  Preserving culture is important!  In the US you wouldn't know, seeing as you have no culture.  Counting back to even before the "United States of America", in the New World, there is no more than a few centuries, while any European country can count double that without thinking.
<br> <br>
Also, if you looked past my fellow Canucks' ability to make you laugh, you would see the most multi-national country in the world, in which hundreds of different cultures exist and live together, (mostly) in harmony.  I would also bring to your attention to the many hundreds of festivals that celebrate culture diversity and preservation such as Folklorama (www.folklorama.ca/).
<br> <br>
If America has such a "cultural shadow", then I can only imagine that, to continue your metaphor, Europe would cast the world in darknesss.  Never mind Europe's Eastern neighbours who could say the same.  If you're so culturally monolithic, please enlighten me as to how, while pointing out how it is greater than most European countries.
<br> <br>
I'm sorry America, but you are not the only people in the world whose "culture" and opinions matter.  Canadians probably seem funny to you because we have the humility to know others may be greater, that others came before us, and that the memory of them is worth preserving, teaching, and respecting.
<br> <br>And I also apologize to those Americans who understand this and constantly take a beating from the rest of the world in posts like these.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think you have any right to comment on culture and English when you think you are too important to even observe the simple laws of grammar .
There is something called a shift key , I suggest you use it .
Secondly , this entire comment is arrogant .
Preserving culture is important !
In the US you would n't know , seeing as you have no culture .
Counting back to even before the " United States of America " , in the New World , there is no more than a few centuries , while any European country can count double that without thinking .
Also , if you looked past my fellow Canucks ' ability to make you laugh , you would see the most multi-national country in the world , in which hundreds of different cultures exist and live together , ( mostly ) in harmony .
I would also bring to your attention to the many hundreds of festivals that celebrate culture diversity and preservation such as Folklorama ( www.folklorama.ca/ ) .
If America has such a " cultural shadow " , then I can only imagine that , to continue your metaphor , Europe would cast the world in darknesss .
Never mind Europe 's Eastern neighbours who could say the same .
If you 're so culturally monolithic , please enlighten me as to how , while pointing out how it is greater than most European countries .
I 'm sorry America , but you are not the only people in the world whose " culture " and opinions matter .
Canadians probably seem funny to you because we have the humility to know others may be greater , that others came before us , and that the memory of them is worth preserving , teaching , and respecting .
And I also apologize to those Americans who understand this and constantly take a beating from the rest of the world in posts like these .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think you have any right to comment on culture and English when you think you are too important to even observe the simple laws of grammar.
There is something called a shift key, I suggest you use it.
Secondly, this entire comment is arrogant.
Preserving culture is important!
In the US you wouldn't know, seeing as you have no culture.
Counting back to even before the "United States of America", in the New World, there is no more than a few centuries, while any European country can count double that without thinking.
Also, if you looked past my fellow Canucks' ability to make you laugh, you would see the most multi-national country in the world, in which hundreds of different cultures exist and live together, (mostly) in harmony.
I would also bring to your attention to the many hundreds of festivals that celebrate culture diversity and preservation such as Folklorama (www.folklorama.ca/).
If America has such a "cultural shadow", then I can only imagine that, to continue your metaphor, Europe would cast the world in darknesss.
Never mind Europe's Eastern neighbours who could say the same.
If you're so culturally monolithic, please enlighten me as to how, while pointing out how it is greater than most European countries.
I'm sorry America, but you are not the only people in the world whose "culture" and opinions matter.
Canadians probably seem funny to you because we have the humility to know others may be greater, that others came before us, and that the memory of them is worth preserving, teaching, and respecting.
And I also apologize to those Americans who understand this and constantly take a beating from the rest of the world in posts like these.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838239</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836579</id>
	<title>Ideally</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1256232600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>In an ideal world this would be too big of a strain on EU relations and member states would start pulling out until it's just France. What would be left? FU.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In an ideal world this would be too big of a strain on EU relations and member states would start pulling out until it 's just France .
What would be left ?
FU .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In an ideal world this would be too big of a strain on EU relations and member states would start pulling out until it's just France.
What would be left?
FU.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29842329</id>
	<title>M.A.D.</title>
	<author>leifb</author>
	<datestamp>1256225220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This could turn out really well, actually.</p><p>Just report EVERYONE.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This could turn out really well , actually.Just report EVERYONE .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This could turn out really well, actually.Just report EVERYONE.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29841879</id>
	<title>Re:cultural protectionism</title>
	<author>jonaskoelker</author>
	<datestamp>1256218800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>hey france, history spoke, and you lost, and the british won. now everyone speaks english in the world</p></div><p>I've recently taken up fencing, learning the <em>en garde</em> position, doing a bit of <em>marche</em> and a <em>fleche</em> attack here or there.  The French language survives (in niches).</p><p><div class="quote"><p>heck, even if you are danish, or belgian: how the hell are you suppose to preserve danish and belgian culture in the face of the english onslaught?</p></div><p>It's not so hard---watch some Danish films and TV shows, listen to some Danish bands, read some Danish literature, make sure that someone is keeping a big archive of Danish media.  We can't <em>exclude</em> English* culture, but that was never the goal, was it?</p><p>* language=English, nationality=USA (most often).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>hey france , history spoke , and you lost , and the british won .
now everyone speaks english in the worldI 've recently taken up fencing , learning the en garde position , doing a bit of marche and a fleche attack here or there .
The French language survives ( in niches ) .heck , even if you are danish , or belgian : how the hell are you suppose to preserve danish and belgian culture in the face of the english onslaught ? It 's not so hard---watch some Danish films and TV shows , listen to some Danish bands , read some Danish literature , make sure that someone is keeping a big archive of Danish media .
We ca n't exclude English * culture , but that was never the goal , was it ?
* language = English , nationality = USA ( most often ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hey france, history spoke, and you lost, and the british won.
now everyone speaks english in the worldI've recently taken up fencing, learning the en garde position, doing a bit of marche and a fleche attack here or there.
The French language survives (in niches).heck, even if you are danish, or belgian: how the hell are you suppose to preserve danish and belgian culture in the face of the english onslaught?It's not so hard---watch some Danish films and TV shows, listen to some Danish bands, read some Danish literature, make sure that someone is keeping a big archive of Danish media.
We can't exclude English* culture, but that was never the goal, was it?
* language=English, nationality=USA (most often).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838239</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838675</id>
	<title>Rage</title>
	<author>V!NCENT</author>
	<datestamp>1256241540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was about to start a big ass rant here, but I guess I am too pissed to write it all down<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:@:@:@</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was about to start a big ass rant here , but I guess I am too pissed to write it all down : @ : @ : @</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was about to start a big ass rant here, but I guess I am too pissed to write it all down :@:@:@</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837271</id>
	<title>Re:Call for boycott</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1256235480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not a boycott of those actually enacting these laws?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not a boycott of those actually enacting these laws ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not a boycott of those actually enacting these laws?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837119</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29843447</id>
	<title>Re:cultural protectionism</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256330160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Va te faire foutre, trou de cul !<br>Tous les francophones ne sont pas forcement des fran&#231;ais.</p><p>Resistance is futile? How pat, puerile and pathetic can you possibly be? Slashdot is international - I'm anglophone, but all my current friends and colleagues, would, if they spoke English, tell you to go fuck yourself sideways, you ignorant zeppo intellectual peasant.</p><p><i>"now everyone speaks english in the world".</i><br>Check it out, dick head:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_language\_families#By\_number\_of\_native\_speakers</p><p>Pretty little map to give you some perspective: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Languengl.gif</p><p>And Americans wonder aloud: why do they hate us?</p><p>We don't hate you all - you're not homogenous (guess what, the rest of the world isn't either) nor even worth that much attention, except when you bomb innocent civilians or threaten our own cultures - mostly we just think you're willfully stupid and arrogant. As for "English culture" - what's left of it after we've been brainwashed by our corporate masters has precious little merit to many other cultures: insipid, trite, uninspiring and repetitive. Rinse and repeat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Va te faire foutre , trou de cul ! Tous les francophones ne sont pas forcement des fran   ais.Resistance is futile ?
How pat , puerile and pathetic can you possibly be ?
Slashdot is international - I 'm anglophone , but all my current friends and colleagues , would , if they spoke English , tell you to go fuck yourself sideways , you ignorant zeppo intellectual peasant .
" now everyone speaks english in the world " .Check it out , dick head : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List \ _of \ _language \ _families # By \ _number \ _of \ _native \ _speakersPretty little map to give you some perspective : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File : Languengl.gifAnd Americans wonder aloud : why do they hate us ? We do n't hate you all - you 're not homogenous ( guess what , the rest of the world is n't either ) nor even worth that much attention , except when you bomb innocent civilians or threaten our own cultures - mostly we just think you 're willfully stupid and arrogant .
As for " English culture " - what 's left of it after we 've been brainwashed by our corporate masters has precious little merit to many other cultures : insipid , trite , uninspiring and repetitive .
Rinse and repeat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Va te faire foutre, trou de cul !Tous les francophones ne sont pas forcement des français.Resistance is futile?
How pat, puerile and pathetic can you possibly be?
Slashdot is international - I'm anglophone, but all my current friends and colleagues, would, if they spoke English, tell you to go fuck yourself sideways, you ignorant zeppo intellectual peasant.
"now everyone speaks english in the world".Check it out, dick head:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_language\_families#By\_number\_of\_native\_speakersPretty little map to give you some perspective: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Languengl.gifAnd Americans wonder aloud: why do they hate us?We don't hate you all - you're not homogenous (guess what, the rest of the world isn't either) nor even worth that much attention, except when you bomb innocent civilians or threaten our own cultures - mostly we just think you're willfully stupid and arrogant.
As for "English culture" - what's left of it after we've been brainwashed by our corporate masters has precious little merit to many other cultures: insipid, trite, uninspiring and repetitive.
Rinse and repeat.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838689</id>
	<title>Re:Ah, that nice French law...</title>
	<author>amicusNYCL</author>
	<datestamp>1256241600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>the idea that their life and property is sanctosant</p></div><p>Is <i>what</i>?  You mean sacrosanct?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the idea that their life and property is sanctosantIs what ?
You mean sacrosanct ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the idea that their life and property is sanctosantIs what?
You mean sacrosanct?
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837467</id>
	<title>Re:Oh great!</title>
	<author>denis-The-menace</author>
	<datestamp>1256236200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with profit from a broken business model.</p><p>It's akin to taking away your TV set(s) because you get the news faster/cheaper than newspapers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with profit from a broken business model.It 's akin to taking away your TV set ( s ) because you get the news faster/cheaper than newspapers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with profit from a broken business model.It's akin to taking away your TV set(s) because you get the news faster/cheaper than newspapers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836549</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29841869</id>
	<title>Re:EU Fail.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256218620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what a wonderfully insightful comment ruined by such a stupid title</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what a wonderfully insightful comment ruined by such a stupid title</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what a wonderfully insightful comment ruined by such a stupid title</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836657</id>
	<title>Human Rights?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256232960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hey what about articles 5, 6 and 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey what about articles 5 , 6 and 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey what about articles 5, 6 and 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29843469</id>
	<title>VPNs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256330520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess this will eventually force more people to use VPN services like remotevpn.net.<br>We will also have to dramaticlly increase the encryption of p2p traffic to make it much harder to proov that the cpntent that is beinf downloaded is copyrighted.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess this will eventually force more people to use VPN services like remotevpn.net.We will also have to dramaticlly increase the encryption of p2p traffic to make it much harder to proov that the cpntent that is beinf downloaded is copyrighted .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess this will eventually force more people to use VPN services like remotevpn.net.We will also have to dramaticlly increase the encryption of p2p traffic to make it much harder to proov that the cpntent that is beinf downloaded is copyrighted.
 </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837247</id>
	<title>Re:Call for boycott</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1256235420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget to support the indie artists that are not involved in the BS the rest of the "entertainment industry" is supporting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget to support the indie artists that are not involved in the BS the rest of the " entertainment industry " is supporting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget to support the indie artists that are not involved in the BS the rest of the "entertainment industry" is supporting.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836985</id>
	<title>Re:88\% What the hell?!</title>
	<author>girlintraining</author>
	<datestamp>1256234160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If older prestige European countries are able to railroad the EU this way then what is the point for other less-prestigious members to stay?</p></div><p>"Hey... That's a pretty nice economy you got there. It would be a shame if something happened to it."<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/sad but true</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If older prestige European countries are able to railroad the EU this way then what is the point for other less-prestigious members to stay ? " Hey.. .
That 's a pretty nice economy you got there .
It would be a shame if something happened to it .
" /sad but true</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If older prestige European countries are able to railroad the EU this way then what is the point for other less-prestigious members to stay?"Hey...
That's a pretty nice economy you got there.
It would be a shame if something happened to it.
" /sad but true
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29842711</id>
	<title>Re:cultural protectionism</title>
	<author>quanticle</author>
	<datestamp>1256230560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While you do have a point in stating that others' cultures are far older than the United States', it is true that US culture has spread across the world very rapidly when compared with other cultures.  Its not the spread of the US culture that's alarming, its the speed of the spread.</p><p>Besides, if age were the only determinant of influence, we'd all be speaking Mandarin/Cantonese or Hindi.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While you do have a point in stating that others ' cultures are far older than the United States ' , it is true that US culture has spread across the world very rapidly when compared with other cultures .
Its not the spread of the US culture that 's alarming , its the speed of the spread.Besides , if age were the only determinant of influence , we 'd all be speaking Mandarin/Cantonese or Hindi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While you do have a point in stating that others' cultures are far older than the United States', it is true that US culture has spread across the world very rapidly when compared with other cultures.
Its not the spread of the US culture that's alarming, its the speed of the spread.Besides, if age were the only determinant of influence, we'd all be speaking Mandarin/Cantonese or Hindi.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837411</id>
	<title>Re:Apply it on MPs and Ministers first</title>
	<author>newcastlejon</author>
	<datestamp>1256236080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If hackers like ParMaster still exist, the best way to ensure this law is repealed is to ensure that MPs and Ministers are caught under this law and disconnected from internet.</p></div><p>Firstly, why would an MP d/l stuff when they can just stick on expenses and have the rest of us pay for it? Secondly, why would a media group want to piss off the guys who just enacted their new favourite weapon?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If hackers like ParMaster still exist , the best way to ensure this law is repealed is to ensure that MPs and Ministers are caught under this law and disconnected from internet.Firstly , why would an MP d/l stuff when they can just stick on expenses and have the rest of us pay for it ?
Secondly , why would a media group want to piss off the guys who just enacted their new favourite weapon ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If hackers like ParMaster still exist, the best way to ensure this law is repealed is to ensure that MPs and Ministers are caught under this law and disconnected from internet.Firstly, why would an MP d/l stuff when they can just stick on expenses and have the rest of us pay for it?
Secondly, why would a media group want to piss off the guys who just enacted their new favourite weapon?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837223</id>
	<title>Re:Shadenfreude</title>
	<author>demachina</author>
	<datestamp>1256235300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It shouldn't.  They are playing leap frog.  One side of the Atlantic implements an oppressive law, tax, or spy on your own citizens regime, and then the other side of the Atlantic says, see they did it and it was good so we shall do it too and we can do it even better.  Repeat over and over and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... BAMMMM<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..... you are living in Fascist world.</p><p>Both sides of the Atlantic are also passing these same obscene laws because the same multinationals are lobbying, bribing and pressuring politicians the world over to legislate their profitability.</p><p>At this point I mostly debate if I lived in a world dominated by Fascist governments or governments which are for all intents and purposes organized crime syndicates, I think a little of both. They are taking vast sums from  ordinary people and transferring it to their rich friends and themselves.  It boggles the mind that working people in the U.S. are taxed at least 25\% income tax and 12.5\% payroll taxes(counting the employer half) for 37.5\% at a minimum.  Billionaire hedge fund operators are taxed at 15\%.  These same hedge funds manager tax their own clients more than that, over 20\% (2\% management fees and 20\% of profits).</p><p>I was watching Frontline on PBS last night on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooksley\_Born" title="wikipedia.org">Brookseley Born</a> [wikipedia.org].  A great story.  During the Clinton administration she tried to use the authority she had at the obscure Commodities Futures Trading Commission to regulate derivatives.  If she had succeeded she might well have prevented at least the AIG part of the recent financial crisis.  Instead she was crushed by Alan Greenspan, Phil Graham, Bob Rubin and Larry Summers.  Long Term Capital Management collapsed during this period trading derivatives, nearly sparking a major panic, proving Born right and they continued to crush her.</p><p>Alan Greenspan supposedly told Born that she was NOT suppose to pursue fraud in derivatives or commodities though it was explicitly in her agencies charter to do just that.</p><p>Bob Rubin went on to help lead Citigroup in to complete ruin and billions of tax payer bailouts.</p><p>Phil Graham's wife was on the board at Enron, he went to UBS where his Swiss bank ran tax shelters for thousands of wealthy Americans, and was a leading player in the collapse during which he called us all a bunch of whiners.</p><p>Larry Summers is now Obama's senior economic adviser.</p><p>All four of these people should be run out of every government position, boardroom or any other position of authority because they are a delightful mix of stupid and criminal.  Its especially obscene for Larry Summers to be calling the shots on financial matters in the Obama administration.  Paul Volcker might actually fix the bankster problem but he has been completely shut out by Summers and Geitner.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It should n't .
They are playing leap frog .
One side of the Atlantic implements an oppressive law , tax , or spy on your own citizens regime , and then the other side of the Atlantic says , see they did it and it was good so we shall do it too and we can do it even better .
Repeat over and over and .... BAMMMM ..... you are living in Fascist world.Both sides of the Atlantic are also passing these same obscene laws because the same multinationals are lobbying , bribing and pressuring politicians the world over to legislate their profitability.At this point I mostly debate if I lived in a world dominated by Fascist governments or governments which are for all intents and purposes organized crime syndicates , I think a little of both .
They are taking vast sums from ordinary people and transferring it to their rich friends and themselves .
It boggles the mind that working people in the U.S. are taxed at least 25 \ % income tax and 12.5 \ % payroll taxes ( counting the employer half ) for 37.5 \ % at a minimum .
Billionaire hedge fund operators are taxed at 15 \ % .
These same hedge funds manager tax their own clients more than that , over 20 \ % ( 2 \ % management fees and 20 \ % of profits ) .I was watching Frontline on PBS last night on Brookseley Born [ wikipedia.org ] .
A great story .
During the Clinton administration she tried to use the authority she had at the obscure Commodities Futures Trading Commission to regulate derivatives .
If she had succeeded she might well have prevented at least the AIG part of the recent financial crisis .
Instead she was crushed by Alan Greenspan , Phil Graham , Bob Rubin and Larry Summers .
Long Term Capital Management collapsed during this period trading derivatives , nearly sparking a major panic , proving Born right and they continued to crush her.Alan Greenspan supposedly told Born that she was NOT suppose to pursue fraud in derivatives or commodities though it was explicitly in her agencies charter to do just that.Bob Rubin went on to help lead Citigroup in to complete ruin and billions of tax payer bailouts.Phil Graham 's wife was on the board at Enron , he went to UBS where his Swiss bank ran tax shelters for thousands of wealthy Americans , and was a leading player in the collapse during which he called us all a bunch of whiners.Larry Summers is now Obama 's senior economic adviser.All four of these people should be run out of every government position , boardroom or any other position of authority because they are a delightful mix of stupid and criminal .
Its especially obscene for Larry Summers to be calling the shots on financial matters in the Obama administration .
Paul Volcker might actually fix the bankster problem but he has been completely shut out by Summers and Geitner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It shouldn't.
They are playing leap frog.
One side of the Atlantic implements an oppressive law, tax, or spy on your own citizens regime, and then the other side of the Atlantic says, see they did it and it was good so we shall do it too and we can do it even better.
Repeat over and over and .... BAMMMM ..... you are living in Fascist world.Both sides of the Atlantic are also passing these same obscene laws because the same multinationals are lobbying, bribing and pressuring politicians the world over to legislate their profitability.At this point I mostly debate if I lived in a world dominated by Fascist governments or governments which are for all intents and purposes organized crime syndicates, I think a little of both.
They are taking vast sums from  ordinary people and transferring it to their rich friends and themselves.
It boggles the mind that working people in the U.S. are taxed at least 25\% income tax and 12.5\% payroll taxes(counting the employer half) for 37.5\% at a minimum.
Billionaire hedge fund operators are taxed at 15\%.
These same hedge funds manager tax their own clients more than that, over 20\% (2\% management fees and 20\% of profits).I was watching Frontline on PBS last night on Brookseley Born [wikipedia.org].
A great story.
During the Clinton administration she tried to use the authority she had at the obscure Commodities Futures Trading Commission to regulate derivatives.
If she had succeeded she might well have prevented at least the AIG part of the recent financial crisis.
Instead she was crushed by Alan Greenspan, Phil Graham, Bob Rubin and Larry Summers.
Long Term Capital Management collapsed during this period trading derivatives, nearly sparking a major panic, proving Born right and they continued to crush her.Alan Greenspan supposedly told Born that she was NOT suppose to pursue fraud in derivatives or commodities though it was explicitly in her agencies charter to do just that.Bob Rubin went on to help lead Citigroup in to complete ruin and billions of tax payer bailouts.Phil Graham's wife was on the board at Enron, he went to UBS where his Swiss bank ran tax shelters for thousands of wealthy Americans, and was a leading player in the collapse during which he called us all a bunch of whiners.Larry Summers is now Obama's senior economic adviser.All four of these people should be run out of every government position, boardroom or any other position of authority because they are a delightful mix of stupid and criminal.
Its especially obscene for Larry Summers to be calling the shots on financial matters in the Obama administration.
Paul Volcker might actually fix the bankster problem but he has been completely shut out by Summers and Geitner.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838641</id>
	<title>Re:Damn French...</title>
	<author>golden age villain</author>
	<datestamp>1256241360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The sad thing is that we will probably have their (and unfortunately my) energetic little president until 2017. You can expect more annoying policies coming in the future.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The sad thing is that we will probably have their ( and unfortunately my ) energetic little president until 2017 .
You can expect more annoying policies coming in the future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The sad thing is that we will probably have their (and unfortunately my) energetic little president until 2017.
You can expect more annoying policies coming in the future.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29839577</id>
	<title>Re:this will be a problem in the future.</title>
	<author>AmonTheMetalhead</author>
	<datestamp>1256202960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>They'll just outlaw anonymous wifi</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 'll just outlaw anonymous wifi</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They'll just outlaw anonymous wifi</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837387</id>
	<title>Re:this will be a problem in the future.</title>
	<author>daem0n1x</author>
	<datestamp>1256235960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This will be uncontrollable.
People will just setup anonymous free access Wifi everywhere.
Police are busy enough with real crimes, there won't be a way to enforce such a stupidity. Maybe they can create the Internet police, but with what money?</htmltext>
<tokenext>This will be uncontrollable .
People will just setup anonymous free access Wifi everywhere .
Police are busy enough with real crimes , there wo n't be a way to enforce such a stupidity .
Maybe they can create the Internet police , but with what money ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This will be uncontrollable.
People will just setup anonymous free access Wifi everywhere.
Police are busy enough with real crimes, there won't be a way to enforce such a stupidity.
Maybe they can create the Internet police, but with what money?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837729</id>
	<title>It is a clever plan</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1256237220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>EU citizens feel better when they read of US civil rights violations.
</p><p>US citizens feel better when they read of EU civil rights violations.
</p><p>Maybe that warm glowing feeling is you getting shafted.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>EU citizens feel better when they read of US civil rights violations .
US citizens feel better when they read of EU civil rights violations .
Maybe that warm glowing feeling is you getting shafted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>EU citizens feel better when they read of US civil rights violations.
US citizens feel better when they read of EU civil rights violations.
Maybe that warm glowing feeling is you getting shafted.
</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837565</id>
	<title>Re:Human Rights?</title>
	<author>PhilHibbs</author>
	<datestamp>1256236620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If internet access is not considered a fundamental right, then it is not protected by the ECHR.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If internet access is not considered a fundamental right , then it is not protected by the ECHR .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If internet access is not considered a fundamental right, then it is not protected by the ECHR.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29838693</id>
	<title>Re:Finland legalizing use of unsecured wireless ne</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256241600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Finland is considering to legalize unauthorized use of unsecured wireless networks. Wonder how such a policy would work in combination with a three strikes rule<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div></blockquote><p>Legalizing?? That would require it to have been illegal in the first place. Those crazy finns.</p><p>By the way, my router supports multiple wireless networks; one of them is unsecured and named "freeinternet", please consider doing the same.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Finland is considering to legalize unauthorized use of unsecured wireless networks .
Wonder how such a policy would work in combination with a three strikes rule : ) Legalizing ? ?
That would require it to have been illegal in the first place .
Those crazy finns.By the way , my router supports multiple wireless networks ; one of them is unsecured and named " freeinternet " , please consider doing the same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Finland is considering to legalize unauthorized use of unsecured wireless networks.
Wonder how such a policy would work in combination with a three strikes rule :)Legalizing??
That would require it to have been illegal in the first place.
Those crazy finns.By the way, my router supports multiple wireless networks; one of them is unsecured and named "freeinternet", please consider doing the same.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29837587</id>
	<title>Re:Damn French...</title>
	<author>PhilHibbs</author>
	<datestamp>1256236740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Won't affect it at all - basically, the EU has removed the requirement that member states protect the right to internet access. They can continue to do so, but they are no longer required to. So, if the government of Finland wants to keep that law, they can.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wo n't affect it at all - basically , the EU has removed the requirement that member states protect the right to internet access .
They can continue to do so , but they are no longer required to .
So , if the government of Finland wants to keep that law , they can .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Won't affect it at all - basically, the EU has removed the requirement that member states protect the right to internet access.
They can continue to do so, but they are no longer required to.
So, if the government of Finland wants to keep that law, they can.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836899</id>
	<title>GNAA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256233860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">to look into you get distracted towel under the very distracting to AMERICA) might be Thev failure of and shower. For development models Opinion in other another troubled to download the Very sick and its sling, return it to</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>to look into you get distracted towel under the very distracting to AMERICA ) might be Thev failure of and shower .
For development models Opinion in other another troubled to download the Very sick and its sling , return it to [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to look into you get distracted towel under the very distracting to AMERICA) might be Thev failure of and shower.
For development models Opinion in other another troubled to download the Very sick and its sling, return it to [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836875</id>
	<title>Europeans have small penises</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256233800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But they still suck a lot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But they still suck a lot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But they still suck a lot.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_22_1421201.29836553</id>
	<title>Apply it on MPs and Ministers first</title>
	<author>freedom\_india</author>
	<datestamp>1256232540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If hackers like ParMaster still exist, the best way to ensure this law is repealed is to ensure that MPs and Ministers are caught under this law and disconnected from internet.<br>Like the immortal Jim Hacker once said: "Not until you face it yourself do you realize what a stupid law you have passed."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If hackers like ParMaster still exist , the best way to ensure this law is repealed is to ensure that MPs and Ministers are caught under this law and disconnected from internet.Like the immortal Jim Hacker once said : " Not until you face it yourself do you realize what a stupid law you have passed .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If hackers like ParMaster still exist, the best way to ensure this law is repealed is to ensure that MPs and Ministers are caught under this law and disconnected from internet.Like the immortal Jim Hacker once said: "Not until you face it yourself do you realize what a stupid law you have passed.
"</sentencetext>
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