<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_20_1657217</id>
	<title>Nationwide Shortage In Supply of Swine Flu Vaccine</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1256059020000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://hughpickens.com/" rel="nofollow">Hugh Pickens</a> writes <i>"The NY Times reports that as <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/17/health/17flu.html">the number of swine flu cases grows to levels unprecedented for this time of year</a>, health officials predict a shortfall in the supply of swine flu vaccine. Forty-three children have died from swine flu since August 30 &mdash; about the same number that usually die in an entire flu season.' These are very sobering statistics,' says Dr. Anne Schuchat, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, 'and unfortunately they are likely to increase.' Projections of the supply of swine flu vaccine have widely varied. During the summer, health officials said 120 million doses would be ready in October but later dropped the estimate to 40 million doses. Now officials expect only 28 million to 30 million doses, adding that the exact number is impossible to predict and could change daily as vaccine manufacturers report that production was behind schedule. 'Vaccine production for influenza is pretty complex,' says Schuchat  explaining the delay, 'and the complex process this year is taking a bit longer than we had hoped.' Schuchat warned parents with sick children to be alert for signs that medical attention is required including not eating well, difficulties breathing, and turning blue or gray. A particularly important sign is when children <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-swine-flu17-2009oct17,0,4189877.story">start to get better, then have a relapse</a>, usually a sign that pneumonia is developing, and immediate treatment should be sought."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hugh Pickens writes " The NY Times reports that as the number of swine flu cases grows to levels unprecedented for this time of year , health officials predict a shortfall in the supply of swine flu vaccine .
Forty-three children have died from swine flu since August 30    about the same number that usually die in an entire flu season .
' These are very sobering statistics, ' says Dr. Anne Schuchat , the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases , 'and unfortunately they are likely to increase .
' Projections of the supply of swine flu vaccine have widely varied .
During the summer , health officials said 120 million doses would be ready in October but later dropped the estimate to 40 million doses .
Now officials expect only 28 million to 30 million doses , adding that the exact number is impossible to predict and could change daily as vaccine manufacturers report that production was behind schedule .
'Vaccine production for influenza is pretty complex, ' says Schuchat explaining the delay , 'and the complex process this year is taking a bit longer than we had hoped .
' Schuchat warned parents with sick children to be alert for signs that medical attention is required including not eating well , difficulties breathing , and turning blue or gray .
A particularly important sign is when children start to get better , then have a relapse , usually a sign that pneumonia is developing , and immediate treatment should be sought .
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<sentencetext>Hugh Pickens writes "The NY Times reports that as the number of swine flu cases grows to levels unprecedented for this time of year, health officials predict a shortfall in the supply of swine flu vaccine.
Forty-three children have died from swine flu since August 30 — about the same number that usually die in an entire flu season.
' These are very sobering statistics,' says Dr. Anne Schuchat, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, 'and unfortunately they are likely to increase.
' Projections of the supply of swine flu vaccine have widely varied.
During the summer, health officials said 120 million doses would be ready in October but later dropped the estimate to 40 million doses.
Now officials expect only 28 million to 30 million doses, adding that the exact number is impossible to predict and could change daily as vaccine manufacturers report that production was behind schedule.
'Vaccine production for influenza is pretty complex,' says Schuchat  explaining the delay, 'and the complex process this year is taking a bit longer than we had hoped.
' Schuchat warned parents with sick children to be alert for signs that medical attention is required including not eating well, difficulties breathing, and turning blue or gray.
A particularly important sign is when children start to get better, then have a relapse, usually a sign that pneumonia is developing, and immediate treatment should be sought.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811503</id>
	<title>Good.</title>
	<author>moxley</author>
	<datestamp>1256065140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good. I don't want that vaccine, and won't take it - I would recommend that everyone research the vaccine and it's ingredients, because there is something that just in't kosher here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good .
I do n't want that vaccine , and wo n't take it - I would recommend that everyone research the vaccine and it 's ingredients , because there is something that just i n't kosher here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good.
I don't want that vaccine, and won't take it - I would recommend that everyone research the vaccine and it's ingredients, because there is something that just in't kosher here.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29814689</id>
	<title>Re:43 healthy children? Or 43 total children?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256033640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The only flu left in the entire world is H1N1.  All other flu strains were eradicated back in 2008 and we now only have H1N1 for people to propagate to each other.  The world is coming to an end.  AAAHHH.  Terrorism is going to kill us all...</p><p>In the 1600's you feared the church.  Today you fear terrorism and the flu.</p><p>If 5\% of the population died from H1N1 it would only help give the economy a boost.  Think about it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only flu left in the entire world is H1N1 .
All other flu strains were eradicated back in 2008 and we now only have H1N1 for people to propagate to each other .
The world is coming to an end .
AAAHHH. Terrorism is going to kill us all...In the 1600 's you feared the church .
Today you fear terrorism and the flu.If 5 \ % of the population died from H1N1 it would only help give the economy a boost .
Think about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only flu left in the entire world is H1N1.
All other flu strains were eradicated back in 2008 and we now only have H1N1 for people to propagate to each other.
The world is coming to an end.
AAAHHH.  Terrorism is going to kill us all...In the 1600's you feared the church.
Today you fear terrorism and the flu.If 5\% of the population died from H1N1 it would only help give the economy a boost.
Think about it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811651</id>
	<title>Re:Influenza Vaccines are Ineffective at Best</title>
	<author>Icegryphon</author>
	<datestamp>1256065680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you go get the vaccine then you will be safe.<br>
What are you complaining about, just go get the vaccine and get your family vaccinated.<br>
You need to be concerned about yourself and not what other people "do" or "don't do"<br>
In short, "mind your own frakking business."</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you go get the vaccine then you will be safe .
What are you complaining about , just go get the vaccine and get your family vaccinated .
You need to be concerned about yourself and not what other people " do " or " do n't do " In short , " mind your own frakking business .
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<sentencetext>If you go get the vaccine then you will be safe.
What are you complaining about, just go get the vaccine and get your family vaccinated.
You need to be concerned about yourself and not what other people "do" or "don't do"
In short, "mind your own frakking business.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29815043</id>
	<title>Re:Not fear of death, it's not wanting to get sick</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256034900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Funny how I haven't gotten a flu shot in 10 years and still somehow manage to not get sick.... ever.  Regardless of the debate and all the 'scientists' that say we should all get it, I simply refuse to inject myself with something that the accompanying pamphlet says can cause infertility.</p><p>I think I will just stick to taking care of myself and maintaining decent hygiene.  No fact checking is needed or statistics analyzed.</p><p>I could care less what other people choose to do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny how I have n't gotten a flu shot in 10 years and still somehow manage to not get sick.... ever. Regardless of the debate and all the 'scientists ' that say we should all get it , I simply refuse to inject myself with something that the accompanying pamphlet says can cause infertility.I think I will just stick to taking care of myself and maintaining decent hygiene .
No fact checking is needed or statistics analyzed.I could care less what other people choose to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny how I haven't gotten a flu shot in 10 years and still somehow manage to not get sick.... ever.  Regardless of the debate and all the 'scientists' that say we should all get it, I simply refuse to inject myself with something that the accompanying pamphlet says can cause infertility.I think I will just stick to taking care of myself and maintaining decent hygiene.
No fact checking is needed or statistics analyzed.I could care less what other people choose to do.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812465</id>
	<title>WTF ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256068440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why the !@#$\%! is this a Slashdot Story ?!?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why the ! @ # $ \ % !
is this a Slashdot Story ? !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why the !@#$\%!
is this a Slashdot Story ?!
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29815337</id>
	<title>C &amp; D</title>
	<author>harvey the nerd</author>
	<datestamp>1256036100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would seriously investigate literature about taking high dose supplements such as hourly vitamin C (2 grams/hr, up to bowel tolerance perhaps 12+ g/hr), high doses of vitamin D (e.g. 10,000 - 20,000 iu for several days).<br>
See: Cochrane review on C and pneumonia <a href="http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab005532.html" title="cochrane.org">http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab005532.html</a> [cochrane.org] <br>
See also various papers by Fred R Klenner and Robert Cathcart, championed by later physicians like Tom Levy and orthomolecular MDs.<br>
<br>
Modern research in the med schools shows the need for much higher levels of vitamin D, at vitaminDcouncil.org</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would seriously investigate literature about taking high dose supplements such as hourly vitamin C ( 2 grams/hr , up to bowel tolerance perhaps 12 + g/hr ) , high doses of vitamin D ( e.g .
10,000 - 20,000 iu for several days ) .
See : Cochrane review on C and pneumonia http : //www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab005532.html [ cochrane.org ] See also various papers by Fred R Klenner and Robert Cathcart , championed by later physicians like Tom Levy and orthomolecular MDs .
Modern research in the med schools shows the need for much higher levels of vitamin D , at vitaminDcouncil.org</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would seriously investigate literature about taking high dose supplements such as hourly vitamin C (2 grams/hr, up to bowel tolerance perhaps 12+ g/hr), high doses of vitamin D (e.g.
10,000 - 20,000 iu for several days).
See: Cochrane review on C and pneumonia http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab005532.html [cochrane.org] 
See also various papers by Fred R Klenner and Robert Cathcart, championed by later physicians like Tom Levy and orthomolecular MDs.
Modern research in the med schools shows the need for much higher levels of vitamin D, at vitaminDcouncil.org</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811661</id>
	<title>Re:False Statements</title>
	<author>Woldscum</author>
	<datestamp>1256065740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>A child in this study is defined as a person 18. A child is 12.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A child in this study is defined as a person 18 .
A child is 12 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A child in this study is defined as a person 18.
A child is 12.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29813227</id>
	<title>an inconvenient truth</title>
	<author>rubycodez</author>
	<datestamp>1256071800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now that we're starting our 3rd year of Global Cooling, winter is arriving at its more normal time.   this is within norm for a flu season.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now that we 're starting our 3rd year of Global Cooling , winter is arriving at its more normal time .
this is within norm for a flu season .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now that we're starting our 3rd year of Global Cooling, winter is arriving at its more normal time.
this is within norm for a flu season.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811377</id>
	<title>Re:False Statements</title>
	<author>Sir\_Dill</author>
	<datestamp>1256064660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am more concerned with the opening sentence of the story<br>
<i>"The NY Times reports that as the number of swine flu cases grows to levels unprecedented for this time of year, health officials predict a shortfall in the supply of swine flu vaccine</i>
<br>
this implies that they have swine flu stats for many years, enough to imply that the levels are outside of normal....<p>
If I have to choose between balloon boy hoaxes or swine flu as the "look at the monkey" diversion story to keep us off the ACTA scent or health care.......I'll turn the TV off..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am more concerned with the opening sentence of the story " The NY Times reports that as the number of swine flu cases grows to levels unprecedented for this time of year , health officials predict a shortfall in the supply of swine flu vaccine this implies that they have swine flu stats for many years , enough to imply that the levels are outside of normal... . If I have to choose between balloon boy hoaxes or swine flu as the " look at the monkey " diversion story to keep us off the ACTA scent or health care.......I 'll turn the TV off. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am more concerned with the opening sentence of the story
"The NY Times reports that as the number of swine flu cases grows to levels unprecedented for this time of year, health officials predict a shortfall in the supply of swine flu vaccine

this implies that they have swine flu stats for many years, enough to imply that the levels are outside of normal....
If I have to choose between balloon boy hoaxes or swine flu as the "look at the monkey" diversion story to keep us off the ACTA scent or health care.......I'll turn the TV off..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29815577</id>
	<title>It's all about egg production</title>
	<author>cmdotter</author>
	<datestamp>1256037480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's my understanding that for each and every vaccination, one egg must be used. Hence, 30 million vaccinations mean 30 million eggs.</p><p>Perhaps you should take your hand off that bacon and egg McMuffin.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's my understanding that for each and every vaccination , one egg must be used .
Hence , 30 million vaccinations mean 30 million eggs.Perhaps you should take your hand off that bacon and egg McMuffin .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's my understanding that for each and every vaccination, one egg must be used.
Hence, 30 million vaccinations mean 30 million eggs.Perhaps you should take your hand off that bacon and egg McMuffin.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812629</id>
	<title>Re:43 healthy children? Or 43 total children?</title>
	<author>Theodore</author>
	<datestamp>1256069100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agreed.</p><p>Stop the fear-mongering.<br>It's called "acceptable losses".</p><p>It's just the flu.<br>And we really need to keep the "just" in there.<br>Over the last few weeks we've seen that '08 and '09 seasonal vaccine doubles the chance one will get H1N1,<br>that those LEAST likely to die are MOST likely to get the vaccine, at the expense of those MOST likely to die.</p><p>I swear, it's almost as if some people WANT this thing to become a planet-killer.<br>They either want billions dead; or if that doesn't happen, they'll just say "you only survived because of us... er... we mean the vaccine".</p><p>Granted, I'm glad the public is finally becoming aware how unsanitary doorknobs, elevator buttons, and handshakes are.<br>I've been complaining about that for decades where I work, and NOW they finally care.</p><p>Side note:  I'm gravely allergic to the flu vaccine.  The years I've received it, I've been horribly ill for almost a month afterwards, usually losing around 20\% of my bodyweight; and then I end up getting the flu a few months later anyway... and instead of only being out for 2 or 3 days kinda achey, was knocked the fuck out for 2 to 3 weeks.<br>However, I can't get a doctor to confirm that because they believe in the necessity of the flu vaccine too much, so all that is just in my mind,,, quit puking in the garbage can, you're imagining it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed.Stop the fear-mongering.It 's called " acceptable losses " .It 's just the flu.And we really need to keep the " just " in there.Over the last few weeks we 've seen that '08 and '09 seasonal vaccine doubles the chance one will get H1N1,that those LEAST likely to die are MOST likely to get the vaccine , at the expense of those MOST likely to die.I swear , it 's almost as if some people WANT this thing to become a planet-killer.They either want billions dead ; or if that does n't happen , they 'll just say " you only survived because of us... er... we mean the vaccine " .Granted , I 'm glad the public is finally becoming aware how unsanitary doorknobs , elevator buttons , and handshakes are.I 've been complaining about that for decades where I work , and NOW they finally care.Side note : I 'm gravely allergic to the flu vaccine .
The years I 've received it , I 've been horribly ill for almost a month afterwards , usually losing around 20 \ % of my bodyweight ; and then I end up getting the flu a few months later anyway... and instead of only being out for 2 or 3 days kinda achey , was knocked the fuck out for 2 to 3 weeks.However , I ca n't get a doctor to confirm that because they believe in the necessity of the flu vaccine too much , so all that is just in my mind,, , quit puking in the garbage can , you 're imagining it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed.Stop the fear-mongering.It's called "acceptable losses".It's just the flu.And we really need to keep the "just" in there.Over the last few weeks we've seen that '08 and '09 seasonal vaccine doubles the chance one will get H1N1,that those LEAST likely to die are MOST likely to get the vaccine, at the expense of those MOST likely to die.I swear, it's almost as if some people WANT this thing to become a planet-killer.They either want billions dead; or if that doesn't happen, they'll just say "you only survived because of us... er... we mean the vaccine".Granted, I'm glad the public is finally becoming aware how unsanitary doorknobs, elevator buttons, and handshakes are.I've been complaining about that for decades where I work, and NOW they finally care.Side note:  I'm gravely allergic to the flu vaccine.
The years I've received it, I've been horribly ill for almost a month afterwards, usually losing around 20\% of my bodyweight; and then I end up getting the flu a few months later anyway... and instead of only being out for 2 or 3 days kinda achey, was knocked the fuck out for 2 to 3 weeks.However, I can't get a doctor to confirm that because they believe in the necessity of the flu vaccine too much, so all that is just in my mind,,, quit puking in the garbage can, you're imagining it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29813303</id>
	<title>Re:Why I am getting the vaccine</title>
	<author>Gerafix</author>
	<datestamp>1256072160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Circumcision is just as barbaric as female genital mutilation. You are a bunch of sick sons of bitches down there in America mutilating your males genitalia. You know, cleaning a dick isn't that hard for fuck sakes. Put down the story book I mean bible and take a shower you crazy fucks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Circumcision is just as barbaric as female genital mutilation .
You are a bunch of sick sons of bitches down there in America mutilating your males genitalia .
You know , cleaning a dick is n't that hard for fuck sakes .
Put down the story book I mean bible and take a shower you crazy fucks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Circumcision is just as barbaric as female genital mutilation.
You are a bunch of sick sons of bitches down there in America mutilating your males genitalia.
You know, cleaning a dick isn't that hard for fuck sakes.
Put down the story book I mean bible and take a shower you crazy fucks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811305</id>
	<title>Think of the children</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256064360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Schuchat warned parents with sick children to be alert for signs that medical attention is required including [...] turning blue or gray</p></div><p>Would any parent <i>not</i> recognize on their own that there's a problem when their kid is <i>blue or gray</i>? Please tell me people don't need to be told this...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Schuchat warned parents with sick children to be alert for signs that medical attention is required including [ ... ] turning blue or grayWould any parent not recognize on their own that there 's a problem when their kid is blue or gray ?
Please tell me people do n't need to be told this.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Schuchat warned parents with sick children to be alert for signs that medical attention is required including [...] turning blue or grayWould any parent not recognize on their own that there's a problem when their kid is blue or gray?
Please tell me people don't need to be told this...
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811785</id>
	<title>If the 1918 flu happened now it wouldn't be as bad</title>
	<author>davidwr</author>
	<datestamp>1256066040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Likewise, if today's strain happened in 1918 it would be worse than it is now.</p><p>The reason is obvious:  There are people with symptoms that are treatable with 21st-century medicine and the modern medical infrastructure that were not treatable with the medicine or medical infrastructure 90 years ago.  Heck, 90 years ago large parts of America didn't have electricity much less telephones and a relatively short ride to an emergency room or pediatric hospital.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Likewise , if today 's strain happened in 1918 it would be worse than it is now.The reason is obvious : There are people with symptoms that are treatable with 21st-century medicine and the modern medical infrastructure that were not treatable with the medicine or medical infrastructure 90 years ago .
Heck , 90 years ago large parts of America did n't have electricity much less telephones and a relatively short ride to an emergency room or pediatric hospital .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Likewise, if today's strain happened in 1918 it would be worse than it is now.The reason is obvious:  There are people with symptoms that are treatable with 21st-century medicine and the modern medical infrastructure that were not treatable with the medicine or medical infrastructure 90 years ago.
Heck, 90 years ago large parts of America didn't have electricity much less telephones and a relatively short ride to an emergency room or pediatric hospital.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811453</id>
	<title>Re:Influenza Vaccines are Ineffective at Best</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256064960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Do NOT inject contaminated virus proteins into MY bloodstream, thanks you very much!</i></p><p>I AGREE!!! I want <b>GENUINE</b>, dangerous, <b>infectious</b> virus proteins injected into my bloodstream. What could possibly go wrong?</p><p>Dimwit. I'd call you a dickhead, but that doesn't seem insulting enough.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do NOT inject contaminated virus proteins into MY bloodstream , thanks you very much ! I AGREE ! ! !
I want GENUINE , dangerous , infectious virus proteins injected into my bloodstream .
What could possibly go wrong ? Dimwit .
I 'd call you a dickhead , but that does n't seem insulting enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do NOT inject contaminated virus proteins into MY bloodstream, thanks you very much!I AGREE!!!
I want GENUINE, dangerous, infectious virus proteins injected into my bloodstream.
What could possibly go wrong?Dimwit.
I'd call you a dickhead, but that doesn't seem insulting enough.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811397</id>
	<title>Good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256064720000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Given how much anti-vaccine rubbish has been in the news lately, I'd say the shortage is a good thing: it means people are getting vaccinated.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given how much anti-vaccine rubbish has been in the news lately , I 'd say the shortage is a good thing : it means people are getting vaccinated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given how much anti-vaccine rubbish has been in the news lately, I'd say the shortage is a good thing: it means people are getting vaccinated.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Something is afoot</title>
	<author>dmr001</author>
	<datestamp>1256038200000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So far, this is what I've heard about H1N1:
</p><ul>
<li>Last spring, when cases started turning up in Mexico, it was reported that H1N1 was striking young adults and bypassing the usual 'high risk' groups (children and old people).</li><li>Now, its killing kids (according to press releases).</li></ul> </div><p>Novel H1N1 flu has a predilection for killing people with robust immune systems; it hijacks the inflammatory response and happens to kill people in the process, likely attributing for the higher mortality among young adults. Kids (especially under 2) tend to be more vulnerable too (to both novel H1N1 and seasonal flu) than adults.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The first batches of vaccine are being reserved for two groups, kids and health care workers. Because they are at higher risk for complications, or because they pose a higher risk of transmitting virus to others?</p></div><p>Ever heard of Google? Please check your <a href="http://www.kingcounty.gov/healthservices/health/preparedness/pandemicflu/swineflu/~/media/health/publichealth/documents/h1n1/H1N1vaccineFAQproviders091001.ashx" title="kingcounty.gov" rel="nofollow">own county's public health site</a> [kingcounty.gov] where you will note that kids are indeed at higher risk for complications, and <i>health care workers come into a lot of contact with sick people</i>.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Where health care workers have traditionally partaken of the usual annual flue vaccines, they are not doing so at rates acceptable to the CDC for H1N1. A few hospitals have announced policies wherein workers who refuse the vaccine will be fired, or otherwise disciplined.</p></div><p>I can't any hard data about rate of novel H1N1 influenza inoculation of health care personnel. I can find a <a href="http://www.necn.com/Boston/Health/2009/09/29/Health-care-workers-taking-a/1254240425.html" title="necn.com" rel="nofollow">local news stories</a> [necn.com] denoting that cafeteria workers and phlebotomists in some places expressed skepticism. I can anecdotally tell you that every <i>physician</i> I know here in Multnomah County (the Portland metropolitan area) is planning on or has gotten vaccinated, and plans on getting their families vaccinated too. I include myself, the 12 other physicians in my practice, my wife, the 12 other physicians in her practice, and all of our socially inbred doctor friends and acquaintances. Cafeteria workers declining the vaccine makes for a good story. People taking care of sick people, however, I suspect are going to have a high vaccination rate for themselves.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>A few doctors are hesitant to get involved in the current vaccination program. One I heard on a radio talk show was expressing concerns about the unusual agreements he would have to sign to get involved with the distribution program. He's staying on the sidelines for now.</p></div><p>One doctor you heard on talk radio is staying on the sidelines. Noted.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>There was a suggestion that homeless people in my city (Seattle) be prioritized for the vaccine. Why? They don't make a particularly good vector for flue transmission to the general population. But, since they won't  be missed, they make great guinea pigs.</p></div><p>Citation please; this isn't noted on the King County Public Health website, though they do note that the homeless population has a high prevalence of chronic diseases known to increase risk of morbidity for influenza (asthma, COPD/emphysema, heart disease, diabetes, poor access to care, hanging out in shelters).</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm beginning to think there's something really wrong with this vaccine. And that the CDC is prioritizing stopping the spread of the virus above the health of the afflicted people.</p></div><p>I'm beginning to think that intellectual laziness and being prone to rumors and half-truths is more prevalent than I  expected, despite the fact that all sorts of information is available at your fingertips.</p></div>
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<tokenext>So far , this is what I 've heard about H1N1 : Last spring , when cases started turning up in Mexico , it was reported that H1N1 was striking young adults and bypassing the usual 'high risk ' groups ( children and old people ) .Now , its killing kids ( according to press releases ) .
Novel H1N1 flu has a predilection for killing people with robust immune systems ; it hijacks the inflammatory response and happens to kill people in the process , likely attributing for the higher mortality among young adults .
Kids ( especially under 2 ) tend to be more vulnerable too ( to both novel H1N1 and seasonal flu ) than adults.The first batches of vaccine are being reserved for two groups , kids and health care workers .
Because they are at higher risk for complications , or because they pose a higher risk of transmitting virus to others ? Ever heard of Google ?
Please check your own county 's public health site [ kingcounty.gov ] where you will note that kids are indeed at higher risk for complications , and health care workers come into a lot of contact with sick people.Where health care workers have traditionally partaken of the usual annual flue vaccines , they are not doing so at rates acceptable to the CDC for H1N1 .
A few hospitals have announced policies wherein workers who refuse the vaccine will be fired , or otherwise disciplined.I ca n't any hard data about rate of novel H1N1 influenza inoculation of health care personnel .
I can find a local news stories [ necn.com ] denoting that cafeteria workers and phlebotomists in some places expressed skepticism .
I can anecdotally tell you that every physician I know here in Multnomah County ( the Portland metropolitan area ) is planning on or has gotten vaccinated , and plans on getting their families vaccinated too .
I include myself , the 12 other physicians in my practice , my wife , the 12 other physicians in her practice , and all of our socially inbred doctor friends and acquaintances .
Cafeteria workers declining the vaccine makes for a good story .
People taking care of sick people , however , I suspect are going to have a high vaccination rate for themselves.A few doctors are hesitant to get involved in the current vaccination program .
One I heard on a radio talk show was expressing concerns about the unusual agreements he would have to sign to get involved with the distribution program .
He 's staying on the sidelines for now.One doctor you heard on talk radio is staying on the sidelines .
Noted.There was a suggestion that homeless people in my city ( Seattle ) be prioritized for the vaccine .
Why ? They do n't make a particularly good vector for flue transmission to the general population .
But , since they wo n't be missed , they make great guinea pigs.Citation please ; this is n't noted on the King County Public Health website , though they do note that the homeless population has a high prevalence of chronic diseases known to increase risk of morbidity for influenza ( asthma , COPD/emphysema , heart disease , diabetes , poor access to care , hanging out in shelters ) .I 'm beginning to think there 's something really wrong with this vaccine .
And that the CDC is prioritizing stopping the spread of the virus above the health of the afflicted people.I 'm beginning to think that intellectual laziness and being prone to rumors and half-truths is more prevalent than I expected , despite the fact that all sorts of information is available at your fingertips .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So far, this is what I've heard about H1N1:

Last spring, when cases started turning up in Mexico, it was reported that H1N1 was striking young adults and bypassing the usual 'high risk' groups (children and old people).Now, its killing kids (according to press releases).
Novel H1N1 flu has a predilection for killing people with robust immune systems; it hijacks the inflammatory response and happens to kill people in the process, likely attributing for the higher mortality among young adults.
Kids (especially under 2) tend to be more vulnerable too (to both novel H1N1 and seasonal flu) than adults.The first batches of vaccine are being reserved for two groups, kids and health care workers.
Because they are at higher risk for complications, or because they pose a higher risk of transmitting virus to others?Ever heard of Google?
Please check your own county's public health site [kingcounty.gov] where you will note that kids are indeed at higher risk for complications, and health care workers come into a lot of contact with sick people.Where health care workers have traditionally partaken of the usual annual flue vaccines, they are not doing so at rates acceptable to the CDC for H1N1.
A few hospitals have announced policies wherein workers who refuse the vaccine will be fired, or otherwise disciplined.I can't any hard data about rate of novel H1N1 influenza inoculation of health care personnel.
I can find a local news stories [necn.com] denoting that cafeteria workers and phlebotomists in some places expressed skepticism.
I can anecdotally tell you that every physician I know here in Multnomah County (the Portland metropolitan area) is planning on or has gotten vaccinated, and plans on getting their families vaccinated too.
I include myself, the 12 other physicians in my practice, my wife, the 12 other physicians in her practice, and all of our socially inbred doctor friends and acquaintances.
Cafeteria workers declining the vaccine makes for a good story.
People taking care of sick people, however, I suspect are going to have a high vaccination rate for themselves.A few doctors are hesitant to get involved in the current vaccination program.
One I heard on a radio talk show was expressing concerns about the unusual agreements he would have to sign to get involved with the distribution program.
He's staying on the sidelines for now.One doctor you heard on talk radio is staying on the sidelines.
Noted.There was a suggestion that homeless people in my city (Seattle) be prioritized for the vaccine.
Why? They don't make a particularly good vector for flue transmission to the general population.
But, since they won't  be missed, they make great guinea pigs.Citation please; this isn't noted on the King County Public Health website, though they do note that the homeless population has a high prevalence of chronic diseases known to increase risk of morbidity for influenza (asthma, COPD/emphysema, heart disease, diabetes, poor access to care, hanging out in shelters).I'm beginning to think there's something really wrong with this vaccine.
And that the CDC is prioritizing stopping the spread of the virus above the health of the afflicted people.I'm beginning to think that intellectual laziness and being prone to rumors and half-truths is more prevalent than I  expected, despite the fact that all sorts of information is available at your fingertips.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29817113</id>
	<title>Re:False Statements</title>
	<author>Guppy</author>
	<datestamp>1256045160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Your statement is blatantly false. As the most minor of checks would show you.<br>Children don't due from flu in the hundreds each year.</p></div><p> <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/about/qa/0607season.htm#children" title="cdc.gov">http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/about/qa/0607season.htm#children</a> [cdc.gov]</p><p>Looking at these figures, I'd say hundreds to thousands <i>would be just about right for a worldwide tally</i>, considering that the U.S. figures ranged from 47 in 2004-2005, to 153 in 2003-2004.  That being said, it's an example of the combination of an overall tiny mortality rate, intersecting with a high exposure rate.  From a public health perspective, the impact from morbidity is much more of a concern than the actual mortality.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Your statement is blatantly false .
As the most minor of checks would show you.Children do n't due from flu in the hundreds each year .
http : //www.cdc.gov/FLU/about/qa/0607season.htm # children [ cdc.gov ] Looking at these figures , I 'd say hundreds to thousands would be just about right for a worldwide tally , considering that the U.S. figures ranged from 47 in 2004-2005 , to 153 in 2003-2004 .
That being said , it 's an example of the combination of an overall tiny mortality rate , intersecting with a high exposure rate .
From a public health perspective , the impact from morbidity is much more of a concern than the actual mortality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your statement is blatantly false.
As the most minor of checks would show you.Children don't due from flu in the hundreds each year.
http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/about/qa/0607season.htm#children [cdc.gov]Looking at these figures, I'd say hundreds to thousands would be just about right for a worldwide tally, considering that the U.S. figures ranged from 47 in 2004-2005, to 153 in 2003-2004.
That being said, it's an example of the combination of an overall tiny mortality rate, intersecting with a high exposure rate.
From a public health perspective, the impact from morbidity is much more of a concern than the actual mortality.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29810843</id>
	<title>Which nation?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256062920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who was it the other week saying there wasn't an American lean to this site?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who was it the other week saying there was n't an American lean to this site ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who was it the other week saying there wasn't an American lean to this site?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811091</id>
	<title>Re:False Statements</title>
	<author>srleffler</author>
	<datestamp>1256063760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The numbers aren't as high as you think. There were 46 pediatric influenza deaths in the 2005&ndash;06 season, for example. The numbers since then have been higher: 78, 88, and 115 for the 06&ndash;07, 07&ndash;08, and 08&ndash;09 seasons, respectively. It's a bit of a stretch to say that 43 is about the same number as usually die, but it's not that big a stretch.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The numbers are n't as high as you think .
There were 46 pediatric influenza deaths in the 2005    06 season , for example .
The numbers since then have been higher : 78 , 88 , and 115 for the 06    07 , 07    08 , and 08    09 seasons , respectively .
It 's a bit of a stretch to say that 43 is about the same number as usually die , but it 's not that big a stretch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The numbers aren't as high as you think.
There were 46 pediatric influenza deaths in the 2005–06 season, for example.
The numbers since then have been higher: 78, 88, and 115 for the 06–07, 07–08, and 08–09 seasons, respectively.
It's a bit of a stretch to say that 43 is about the same number as usually die, but it's not that big a stretch.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29814643</id>
	<title>The CDC Swine Flu Website</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1256033460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The CDC's <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/" title="cdc.gov">2009 H1N1 Flu (Swine Flu)</a> [cdc.gov] site is handsomely designed and rich in resources for all ages and interests.</p><p>The geek will find public health spreadsheet simulations for Windows and Excel here: <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/tools/" title="cdc.gov">H1N1 Flu (Swine Flu): Preparedness Tools for Professionals</a> [cdc.gov] </p><p>Interesting stuff, no specialist knowledge or skills required.</p><p>Social networking and mobile resources, widgets, buttons and badages: <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/SocialMedia/Campaigns/H1N1/" title="cdc.gov">Social Media - Novel H1N1 Flu (Swine Flu</a> [cdc.gov]</p><p>
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<tokenext>The CDC 's 2009 H1N1 Flu ( Swine Flu ) [ cdc.gov ] site is handsomely designed and rich in resources for all ages and interests.The geek will find public health spreadsheet simulations for Windows and Excel here : H1N1 Flu ( Swine Flu ) : Preparedness Tools for Professionals [ cdc.gov ] Interesting stuff , no specialist knowledge or skills required.Social networking and mobile resources , widgets , buttons and badages : Social Media - Novel H1N1 Flu ( Swine Flu [ cdc.gov ]  </tokentext>
<sentencetext>The CDC's 2009 H1N1 Flu (Swine Flu) [cdc.gov] site is handsomely designed and rich in resources for all ages and interests.The geek will find public health spreadsheet simulations for Windows and Excel here: H1N1 Flu (Swine Flu): Preparedness Tools for Professionals [cdc.gov] Interesting stuff, no specialist knowledge or skills required.Social networking and mobile resources, widgets, buttons and badages: Social Media - Novel H1N1 Flu (Swine Flu [cdc.gov]
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29815351</id>
	<title>Re:Same News Cycle Every Year</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256036160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you sure it wasn't because those other flu vaccine makers weren't bought out by the bigger ones? We love monopolies in this country. Then these two got together and said, hey you know we aren't making enough money off just regular flu. So they took swine flu and mixed it with something virulent then release it in a country like Mexico where the poor health care ensures it spreads and it's close proximity to the US ensures it will reach there and presto, tons of profit for years to come!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you sure it was n't because those other flu vaccine makers were n't bought out by the bigger ones ?
We love monopolies in this country .
Then these two got together and said , hey you know we are n't making enough money off just regular flu .
So they took swine flu and mixed it with something virulent then release it in a country like Mexico where the poor health care ensures it spreads and it 's close proximity to the US ensures it will reach there and presto , tons of profit for years to come !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you sure it wasn't because those other flu vaccine makers weren't bought out by the bigger ones?
We love monopolies in this country.
Then these two got together and said, hey you know we aren't making enough money off just regular flu.
So they took swine flu and mixed it with something virulent then release it in a country like Mexico where the poor health care ensures it spreads and it's close proximity to the US ensures it will reach there and presto, tons of profit for years to come!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811985</id>
	<title>Re:Die Die Die</title>
	<author>guruevi</author>
	<datestamp>1256066700000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The US government is effectively ran by 2 types of companies: oil &amp; weapon companies (republicans) and drug &amp; insurance companies (democrats) although both company types dabble across the lines. So if republicans are in power, you'll hear a lot about how there is a need to protect the borders and how fuel prices are out of control in order to protect the American lifestyle, if democrats are in power, you'll hear a lot about how to improve the American lifestyle through drugs and doctor visits. At least that has been my experience as an outsider (non-American).</p><p>Now, this president has tried to shake up some of this because he is somewhat younger and an intellectual. However on all those main points he had to either admit defeat or it's still somewhere in the middle. The government subsidies of the H1N1 vaccine is just a money-grab by the companies producing it. As any virologist can tell you, a flu vaccine only protects against a single strand of flu and some minor mutations, usually the one that has already been defeated largely by the collective immune system. The upcoming flu strand is a different mutation and therefore the vaccine won't help. That's why loads of people still get sick every season even though they had a vaccine.</p><p>If you do some research on this specific strand of flu you'll find quickly that this is a flu virus very similar to the ones we get every year. It might be a bit deadlier than the ones from last year but it's not like the world hasn't gotten flu pandemics before (eg. Hong Kong flu which killed a measly 1 million people). On another note, flu vaccines can trigger auto-immune disorders and temporarily decreases your inherit immunity systems which can cause you to get things like common cold all the way to tuberculosis so it's not without risk either way. When I get a flu vaccine, I get a rash and I'm under the weather for a few days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The US government is effectively ran by 2 types of companies : oil &amp; weapon companies ( republicans ) and drug &amp; insurance companies ( democrats ) although both company types dabble across the lines .
So if republicans are in power , you 'll hear a lot about how there is a need to protect the borders and how fuel prices are out of control in order to protect the American lifestyle , if democrats are in power , you 'll hear a lot about how to improve the American lifestyle through drugs and doctor visits .
At least that has been my experience as an outsider ( non-American ) .Now , this president has tried to shake up some of this because he is somewhat younger and an intellectual .
However on all those main points he had to either admit defeat or it 's still somewhere in the middle .
The government subsidies of the H1N1 vaccine is just a money-grab by the companies producing it .
As any virologist can tell you , a flu vaccine only protects against a single strand of flu and some minor mutations , usually the one that has already been defeated largely by the collective immune system .
The upcoming flu strand is a different mutation and therefore the vaccine wo n't help .
That 's why loads of people still get sick every season even though they had a vaccine.If you do some research on this specific strand of flu you 'll find quickly that this is a flu virus very similar to the ones we get every year .
It might be a bit deadlier than the ones from last year but it 's not like the world has n't gotten flu pandemics before ( eg .
Hong Kong flu which killed a measly 1 million people ) .
On another note , flu vaccines can trigger auto-immune disorders and temporarily decreases your inherit immunity systems which can cause you to get things like common cold all the way to tuberculosis so it 's not without risk either way .
When I get a flu vaccine , I get a rash and I 'm under the weather for a few days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The US government is effectively ran by 2 types of companies: oil &amp; weapon companies (republicans) and drug &amp; insurance companies (democrats) although both company types dabble across the lines.
So if republicans are in power, you'll hear a lot about how there is a need to protect the borders and how fuel prices are out of control in order to protect the American lifestyle, if democrats are in power, you'll hear a lot about how to improve the American lifestyle through drugs and doctor visits.
At least that has been my experience as an outsider (non-American).Now, this president has tried to shake up some of this because he is somewhat younger and an intellectual.
However on all those main points he had to either admit defeat or it's still somewhere in the middle.
The government subsidies of the H1N1 vaccine is just a money-grab by the companies producing it.
As any virologist can tell you, a flu vaccine only protects against a single strand of flu and some minor mutations, usually the one that has already been defeated largely by the collective immune system.
The upcoming flu strand is a different mutation and therefore the vaccine won't help.
That's why loads of people still get sick every season even though they had a vaccine.If you do some research on this specific strand of flu you'll find quickly that this is a flu virus very similar to the ones we get every year.
It might be a bit deadlier than the ones from last year but it's not like the world hasn't gotten flu pandemics before (eg.
Hong Kong flu which killed a measly 1 million people).
On another note, flu vaccines can trigger auto-immune disorders and temporarily decreases your inherit immunity systems which can cause you to get things like common cold all the way to tuberculosis so it's not without risk either way.
When I get a flu vaccine, I get a rash and I'm under the weather for a few days.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29817915</id>
	<title>Re:Not fear of death, it's not wanting to get sick</title>
	<author>Neptunes\_Trident</author>
	<datestamp>1256049660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And my experience with shots were this. I never received a shot for years, since I was in junior high (late 80's). And never became ill, EVER. Even when smoking cigarettes for about 10 years 93-02. All I ever had was just the sniffles from time too time. No flu, nothing. Then I had my son. I did not start taking the shots yet but I quit smoking. Still felt fine, even when my son and other nieces and nephews were sick all the damn time and around me monthly (Family is all in Bay Area). I then decided I would do the responsible parent thing and go get the shot, just too "be on the safe side". For the exact same three years I received the shot, 2004 &amp; 2005 &amp; 2006 I was so sick and missed so much work from those damn shots, I would get sick as a dog weeks if not months AFTER, the shot was taken. So after all of that drama and having a friend/work associate who has an autistic son (not from birth) but from the shots he received (in 2006) I decided never again will I worry about the shots. Your body can do all the battling it needs to stay healthy... ON ITS OWN. Seriously, if it is NOT a Flesh Wound, then why bother. OH NO, because other people see that your ill and are now scared of you! OH NO.... please. This is the way it should be. Half the battle of illness is psychological. And if your fears (or other peoples) fears are pushing you too stick yourself with something cause you or even worse THEY, THINK it will protect you, YOU better think again. Since I have not had my shot for about 3 years now, I feel better than I ever had. And I laugh at all of you idiots who let your fears control you. And I put all you idiots in your place who think your fear is a reason....HA, to control SOMEONE ELSES heath/life. Good luck with that. I will never believe in peoples fear of mother nature, ever. Take all the drugs you want too comfort yourself, I prefer to not too play that game, Thank you very much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And my experience with shots were this .
I never received a shot for years , since I was in junior high ( late 80 's ) .
And never became ill , EVER .
Even when smoking cigarettes for about 10 years 93-02 .
All I ever had was just the sniffles from time too time .
No flu , nothing .
Then I had my son .
I did not start taking the shots yet but I quit smoking .
Still felt fine , even when my son and other nieces and nephews were sick all the damn time and around me monthly ( Family is all in Bay Area ) .
I then decided I would do the responsible parent thing and go get the shot , just too " be on the safe side " .
For the exact same three years I received the shot , 2004 &amp; 2005 &amp; 2006 I was so sick and missed so much work from those damn shots , I would get sick as a dog weeks if not months AFTER , the shot was taken .
So after all of that drama and having a friend/work associate who has an autistic son ( not from birth ) but from the shots he received ( in 2006 ) I decided never again will I worry about the shots .
Your body can do all the battling it needs to stay healthy... ON ITS OWN .
Seriously , if it is NOT a Flesh Wound , then why bother .
OH NO , because other people see that your ill and are now scared of you !
OH NO.... please. This is the way it should be .
Half the battle of illness is psychological .
And if your fears ( or other peoples ) fears are pushing you too stick yourself with something cause you or even worse THEY , THINK it will protect you , YOU better think again .
Since I have not had my shot for about 3 years now , I feel better than I ever had .
And I laugh at all of you idiots who let your fears control you .
And I put all you idiots in your place who think your fear is a reason....HA , to control SOMEONE ELSES heath/life .
Good luck with that .
I will never believe in peoples fear of mother nature , ever .
Take all the drugs you want too comfort yourself , I prefer to not too play that game , Thank you very much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And my experience with shots were this.
I never received a shot for years, since I was in junior high (late 80's).
And never became ill, EVER.
Even when smoking cigarettes for about 10 years 93-02.
All I ever had was just the sniffles from time too time.
No flu, nothing.
Then I had my son.
I did not start taking the shots yet but I quit smoking.
Still felt fine, even when my son and other nieces and nephews were sick all the damn time and around me monthly (Family is all in Bay Area).
I then decided I would do the responsible parent thing and go get the shot, just too "be on the safe side".
For the exact same three years I received the shot, 2004 &amp; 2005 &amp; 2006 I was so sick and missed so much work from those damn shots, I would get sick as a dog weeks if not months AFTER, the shot was taken.
So after all of that drama and having a friend/work associate who has an autistic son (not from birth) but from the shots he received (in 2006) I decided never again will I worry about the shots.
Your body can do all the battling it needs to stay healthy... ON ITS OWN.
Seriously, if it is NOT a Flesh Wound, then why bother.
OH NO, because other people see that your ill and are now scared of you!
OH NO.... please. This is the way it should be.
Half the battle of illness is psychological.
And if your fears (or other peoples) fears are pushing you too stick yourself with something cause you or even worse THEY, THINK it will protect you, YOU better think again.
Since I have not had my shot for about 3 years now, I feel better than I ever had.
And I laugh at all of you idiots who let your fears control you.
And I put all you idiots in your place who think your fear is a reason....HA, to control SOMEONE ELSES heath/life.
Good luck with that.
I will never believe in peoples fear of mother nature, ever.
Take all the drugs you want too comfort yourself, I prefer to not too play that game, Thank you very much.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811971</id>
	<title>Re:Think of the children</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256066640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Would any parent not recognize on their own that there's a problem when their kid is blue or gray? Please tell me people don't need to be told this..</p></div></blockquote><p>Aww, it's just a mild case of Argyria, <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2297471.stm" title="bbc.co.uk">just like uncle Stan has</a> [bbc.co.uk].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would any parent not recognize on their own that there 's a problem when their kid is blue or gray ?
Please tell me people do n't need to be told this..Aww , it 's just a mild case of Argyria , just like uncle Stan has [ bbc.co.uk ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would any parent not recognize on their own that there's a problem when their kid is blue or gray?
Please tell me people don't need to be told this..Aww, it's just a mild case of Argyria, just like uncle Stan has [bbc.co.uk].
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812369</id>
	<title>Google Flu Trends</title>
	<author>pgn674</author>
	<datestamp>1256068140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been checking <a href="http://www.google.org/flutrends/" title="google.org">Google Flu Trends</a> [google.org] every couple weeks, and at least some metric is now much higher than it has been in years past.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been checking Google Flu Trends [ google.org ] every couple weeks , and at least some metric is now much higher than it has been in years past .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been checking Google Flu Trends [google.org] every couple weeks, and at least some metric is now much higher than it has been in years past.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812929</id>
	<title>Re:Think of the children</title>
	<author>NiteShaed</author>
	<datestamp>1256070300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most people do, but Civil War re-enactors sometimes become desensitized to that particular combination and miss the warning.....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most people do , but Civil War re-enactors sometimes become desensitized to that particular combination and miss the warning.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most people do, but Civil War re-enactors sometimes become desensitized to that particular combination and miss the warning.....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811927</id>
	<title>and?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256066460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I fail to see the problem. There are extremely horrifying stories of what the innoculation will do to you - and those stories come from nurses themselves. If there isn't enough to go around, lives will be saved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I fail to see the problem .
There are extremely horrifying stories of what the innoculation will do to you - and those stories come from nurses themselves .
If there is n't enough to go around , lives will be saved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I fail to see the problem.
There are extremely horrifying stories of what the innoculation will do to you - and those stories come from nurses themselves.
If there isn't enough to go around, lives will be saved.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812985</id>
	<title>Re:43 healthy children? Or 43 total children?</title>
	<author>Sj0</author>
	<datestamp>1256070600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, there are millions of cases of H1N1<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009\_flu\_pandemic" title="wikipedia.org">[1]</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>So it's not like there's a terribly high fatality rate. I mean, it's troubling if it happens, but in context it's not worth the terrified screaming and debate going on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , there are millions of cases of H1N1 [ 1 ] [ wikipedia.org ] So it 's not like there 's a terribly high fatality rate .
I mean , it 's troubling if it happens , but in context it 's not worth the terrified screaming and debate going on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, there are millions of cases of H1N1[1] [wikipedia.org]So it's not like there's a terribly high fatality rate.
I mean, it's troubling if it happens, but in context it's not worth the terrified screaming and debate going on.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812057</id>
	<title>How is there a shortage?</title>
	<author>Turzyx</author>
	<datestamp>1256066940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The UK has secured enough vaccine to protect <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8274374.stm" title="bbc.co.uk" rel="nofollow">132 million people</a> [bbc.co.uk], nearly twice the population; blanket vaccination began earlier this month for the most vulnerable. From what I can tell the total quantity is being supplied by only 2 pharmaceutical companies, Baxter and GlaxoSmithKline.

Given the US has dozens more of these establishments, all usually eager to milk the consumer (read:country) for all it's worth, why is there a 'shortage'?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The UK has secured enough vaccine to protect 132 million people [ bbc.co.uk ] , nearly twice the population ; blanket vaccination began earlier this month for the most vulnerable .
From what I can tell the total quantity is being supplied by only 2 pharmaceutical companies , Baxter and GlaxoSmithKline .
Given the US has dozens more of these establishments , all usually eager to milk the consumer ( read : country ) for all it 's worth , why is there a 'shortage ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The UK has secured enough vaccine to protect 132 million people [bbc.co.uk], nearly twice the population; blanket vaccination began earlier this month for the most vulnerable.
From what I can tell the total quantity is being supplied by only 2 pharmaceutical companies, Baxter and GlaxoSmithKline.
Given the US has dozens more of these establishments, all usually eager to milk the consumer (read:country) for all it's worth, why is there a 'shortage'?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29819481</id>
	<title>Bring out your dead...</title>
	<author>sitarlo</author>
	<datestamp>1256060400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A global pandemic may be the best thing to happen to the earth and humanity at this point in time.  Maybe if nature spanks us we'll learn some much needed lessons.<br> <br>I wouldn't worry much though.  Remember a few years ago we were all going to die from avian flu?  A few years earlier it was West Nile, and before that Mad Cow.  How about we take all the flu resources and redirect them to the real killers: stress, hypertension, heart disease, diabetes and cancer.<br> <br>By the numbers, we are more likely to die from those things than from the flu.  Disclaimer: I don't want to see anyone on the planet get sick or die, and I think we should take whatever steps we choose for ourselves to prevent death and live healthily, but we all do parish eventually and very few know when and how so it's best to just get over it and get on with life while you are here.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A global pandemic may be the best thing to happen to the earth and humanity at this point in time .
Maybe if nature spanks us we 'll learn some much needed lessons .
I would n't worry much though .
Remember a few years ago we were all going to die from avian flu ?
A few years earlier it was West Nile , and before that Mad Cow .
How about we take all the flu resources and redirect them to the real killers : stress , hypertension , heart disease , diabetes and cancer .
By the numbers , we are more likely to die from those things than from the flu .
Disclaimer : I do n't want to see anyone on the planet get sick or die , and I think we should take whatever steps we choose for ourselves to prevent death and live healthily , but we all do parish eventually and very few know when and how so it 's best to just get over it and get on with life while you are here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A global pandemic may be the best thing to happen to the earth and humanity at this point in time.
Maybe if nature spanks us we'll learn some much needed lessons.
I wouldn't worry much though.
Remember a few years ago we were all going to die from avian flu?
A few years earlier it was West Nile, and before that Mad Cow.
How about we take all the flu resources and redirect them to the real killers: stress, hypertension, heart disease, diabetes and cancer.
By the numbers, we are more likely to die from those things than from the flu.
Disclaimer: I don't want to see anyone on the planet get sick or die, and I think we should take whatever steps we choose for ourselves to prevent death and live healthily, but we all do parish eventually and very few know when and how so it's best to just get over it and get on with life while you are here.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811459</id>
	<title>Re:43 healthy children? Or 43 total children?</title>
	<author>Chameleon Man</author>
	<datestamp>1256065020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not to mention <a href="http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/swineflu/Don39t-confuse-meningitis-symptoms-with.5482768.jp" title="halifaxcourier.co.uk" rel="nofollow">people are confusing swine flu symptoms with meningitis</a> [halifaxcourier.co.uk], <a href="http://www.beyondallergy.com/allergy-news/allergy-symptoms-swine-flu.php" title="beyondallergy.com" rel="nofollow">allergies, and even the common cold.</a> [beyondallergy.com] <br> <br>I wonder how many of these deaths ARE actually swine flu.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention people are confusing swine flu symptoms with meningitis [ halifaxcourier.co.uk ] , allergies , and even the common cold .
[ beyondallergy.com ] I wonder how many of these deaths ARE actually swine flu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention people are confusing swine flu symptoms with meningitis [halifaxcourier.co.uk], allergies, and even the common cold.
[beyondallergy.com]  I wonder how many of these deaths ARE actually swine flu.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812135</id>
	<title>Why I am getting the vaccine</title>
	<author>HockeyPuck</author>
	<datestamp>1256067240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While I am not in the highest risk group (young children, healthcare workers etc..), I am getting it because I know far too many mother's out there who have children who read some blurb or headline and think "No way on earth my kid is getting the vaccine!"</p><p>I have no intentions of getting sick FROM THEM.</p><p>These are the same parents that don't want their kids getting chicken pox due to "discomfort".</p><p>I have a friend that didn't get their kid circumsized (which is usually done in the first when the boy is only a few days old) because they wanted to leave this decision up to the child.  Note that the boy has already had quite a few urinary infections due to this.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While I am not in the highest risk group ( young children , healthcare workers etc.. ) , I am getting it because I know far too many mother 's out there who have children who read some blurb or headline and think " No way on earth my kid is getting the vaccine !
" I have no intentions of getting sick FROM THEM.These are the same parents that do n't want their kids getting chicken pox due to " discomfort " .I have a friend that did n't get their kid circumsized ( which is usually done in the first when the boy is only a few days old ) because they wanted to leave this decision up to the child .
Note that the boy has already had quite a few urinary infections due to this .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I am not in the highest risk group (young children, healthcare workers etc..), I am getting it because I know far too many mother's out there who have children who read some blurb or headline and think "No way on earth my kid is getting the vaccine!
"I have no intentions of getting sick FROM THEM.These are the same parents that don't want their kids getting chicken pox due to "discomfort".I have a friend that didn't get their kid circumsized (which is usually done in the first when the boy is only a few days old) because they wanted to leave this decision up to the child.
Note that the boy has already had quite a few urinary infections due to this.
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29815739</id>
	<title>Re:And now a few facts</title>
	<author>jcgam69</author>
	<datestamp>1256038140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think the H1N1 paranoia is responsible for the early spike in the Google Flu Trends chart.  From the site:
<br>
<i>We've found that certain search terms are good indicators of flu activity. Google Flu Trends uses <b>aggregated Google search data</b> to estimate flu activity. </i></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the H1N1 paranoia is responsible for the early spike in the Google Flu Trends chart .
From the site : We 've found that certain search terms are good indicators of flu activity .
Google Flu Trends uses aggregated Google search data to estimate flu activity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the H1N1 paranoia is responsible for the early spike in the Google Flu Trends chart.
From the site:

We've found that certain search terms are good indicators of flu activity.
Google Flu Trends uses aggregated Google search data to estimate flu activity. </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811115</id>
	<title>Oblig</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256063760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=swine\_flu" title="thebestpag...iverse.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=swine\_flu</a> [thebestpag...iverse.net]

Gotta love that Maddox.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi ? u = swine \ _flu [ thebestpag...iverse.net ] Got ta love that Maddox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=swine\_flu [thebestpag...iverse.net]

Gotta love that Maddox.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29813217</id>
	<title>Re:Something is afoot</title>
	<author>LanMan04</author>
	<datestamp>1256071800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The H1N1 vaccine is manufactured in exactly the same way as the regular flu vaccine.  The ONLY difference is the viral proteins.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The H1N1 vaccine is manufactured in exactly the same way as the regular flu vaccine .
The ONLY difference is the viral proteins .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The H1N1 vaccine is manufactured in exactly the same way as the regular flu vaccine.
The ONLY difference is the viral proteins.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812763</id>
	<title>Re:Why I am getting the vaccine</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256069640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't lump circumcision into this anti-science way of life. I didn't have my boys circumcized because there's no medical reason to do it - there's no increased incidence of infection or any sort of illness that results from leaving the penis intact. My decision was informed by science. Similarly my decision to vaccinate - and both my boys are already vaccinated against both seasonal and H1N1 flu - is based on my firm belief, also based on science, that this is good for them and good for everyone else too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't lump circumcision into this anti-science way of life .
I did n't have my boys circumcized because there 's no medical reason to do it - there 's no increased incidence of infection or any sort of illness that results from leaving the penis intact .
My decision was informed by science .
Similarly my decision to vaccinate - and both my boys are already vaccinated against both seasonal and H1N1 flu - is based on my firm belief , also based on science , that this is good for them and good for everyone else too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't lump circumcision into this anti-science way of life.
I didn't have my boys circumcized because there's no medical reason to do it - there's no increased incidence of infection or any sort of illness that results from leaving the penis intact.
My decision was informed by science.
Similarly my decision to vaccinate - and both my boys are already vaccinated against both seasonal and H1N1 flu - is based on my firm belief, also based on science, that this is good for them and good for everyone else too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29813131</id>
	<title>Re:Influenza Vaccines are Ineffective at Best</title>
	<author>LanMan04</author>
	<datestamp>1256071320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please, please, please tell me you're a troll.  Please.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please , please , please tell me you 're a troll .
Please .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please, please, please tell me you're a troll.
Please.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811953</id>
	<title>oh noes! SHORTAGE</title>
	<author>amoeba1911</author>
	<datestamp>1256066580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nothing creates a shortage faster than the word "shortage".<br>
<br>
Johnny Carson was joking about a toilet paper shortage on NBC's Tonight Show, and Johnny's simple joke about shortage indeed created a very real toilet paper shortage that lasted three weeks. <a href="http://baypaper.com/toiletpaper.html" title="baypaper.com">fact</a> [baypaper.com] <br>
<br>
If a comedian can have that much impact, one can only imagine what would happen if a more reliable source like New York Times went around announcing there was a shortage.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nothing creates a shortage faster than the word " shortage " .
Johnny Carson was joking about a toilet paper shortage on NBC 's Tonight Show , and Johnny 's simple joke about shortage indeed created a very real toilet paper shortage that lasted three weeks .
fact [ baypaper.com ] If a comedian can have that much impact , one can only imagine what would happen if a more reliable source like New York Times went around announcing there was a shortage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nothing creates a shortage faster than the word "shortage".
Johnny Carson was joking about a toilet paper shortage on NBC's Tonight Show, and Johnny's simple joke about shortage indeed created a very real toilet paper shortage that lasted three weeks.
fact [baypaper.com] 

If a comedian can have that much impact, one can only imagine what would happen if a more reliable source like New York Times went around announcing there was a shortage.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811097</id>
	<title>Die Die Die</title>
	<author>tekrat</author>
	<datestamp>1256063760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hate to be callous, but seriously, the only way for there to be "real" health-care reform in this country is for a 9-11 style incident to happen in the "health-care universe".</p><p>If many thousands of people were to die of swine flu, their deaths might cause the kind of outcry that this country needs to actually change the system. Right now everyone is listening to Faux News and heeding the "socialized healthcare == death panels" mantra.</p><p>But the system we're got right now is killing lots of children. Won't someone think of the children?</p><p>It's only after ENOUGH people die that we as a nation get off our collective butts and do something. However, this time I fear, we were fed too many divergent signals, and now we're running about in circles while people die needlessly.</p><p>So fine then, let them die. I actually hope many die. I hope it's a pandemic that wipes out a decent percentage of the populace, because it's going to take a lot of death before we have decent healthcare in the USA.</p><p>I'm tired of being told we're number one when we're really very close to being a third world nation. We need a wake up call, because we've been asleep at the wheel for over 20 years.</p><p>Unfortuantely, we'll more likely just scrape by this year, and the slow destruction of the nation will continue on it's merry way, with all the talking heads on TV arguing with one another instead of getting anything meaningful done. And they'll keep doing "just enough" to keep us in our chains.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate to be callous , but seriously , the only way for there to be " real " health-care reform in this country is for a 9-11 style incident to happen in the " health-care universe " .If many thousands of people were to die of swine flu , their deaths might cause the kind of outcry that this country needs to actually change the system .
Right now everyone is listening to Faux News and heeding the " socialized healthcare = = death panels " mantra.But the system we 're got right now is killing lots of children .
Wo n't someone think of the children ? It 's only after ENOUGH people die that we as a nation get off our collective butts and do something .
However , this time I fear , we were fed too many divergent signals , and now we 're running about in circles while people die needlessly.So fine then , let them die .
I actually hope many die .
I hope it 's a pandemic that wipes out a decent percentage of the populace , because it 's going to take a lot of death before we have decent healthcare in the USA.I 'm tired of being told we 're number one when we 're really very close to being a third world nation .
We need a wake up call , because we 've been asleep at the wheel for over 20 years.Unfortuantely , we 'll more likely just scrape by this year , and the slow destruction of the nation will continue on it 's merry way , with all the talking heads on TV arguing with one another instead of getting anything meaningful done .
And they 'll keep doing " just enough " to keep us in our chains .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate to be callous, but seriously, the only way for there to be "real" health-care reform in this country is for a 9-11 style incident to happen in the "health-care universe".If many thousands of people were to die of swine flu, their deaths might cause the kind of outcry that this country needs to actually change the system.
Right now everyone is listening to Faux News and heeding the "socialized healthcare == death panels" mantra.But the system we're got right now is killing lots of children.
Won't someone think of the children?It's only after ENOUGH people die that we as a nation get off our collective butts and do something.
However, this time I fear, we were fed too many divergent signals, and now we're running about in circles while people die needlessly.So fine then, let them die.
I actually hope many die.
I hope it's a pandemic that wipes out a decent percentage of the populace, because it's going to take a lot of death before we have decent healthcare in the USA.I'm tired of being told we're number one when we're really very close to being a third world nation.
We need a wake up call, because we've been asleep at the wheel for over 20 years.Unfortuantely, we'll more likely just scrape by this year, and the slow destruction of the nation will continue on it's merry way, with all the talking heads on TV arguing with one another instead of getting anything meaningful done.
And they'll keep doing "just enough" to keep us in our chains.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811003</id>
	<title>You are wrong</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1256063460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>on average 92 children die every year. 42 children dying outside the normal 'flu season' is a big deal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>on average 92 children die every year .
42 children dying outside the normal 'flu season ' is a big deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>on average 92 children die every year.
42 children dying outside the normal 'flu season' is a big deal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29810925</id>
	<title>Re:Which nation?</title>
	<author>longhairedgnome</author>
	<datestamp>1256063220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Troll, this topic has been beaten to death.  If we were on slashdot.ru I think it would be safe to assume that it is a russian based site, whereas slashdot.com is based out of the United States of America, which is in North America.  And we all know the USA is full of com ready to impregnate the rest of the world.  We will have our disease in you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Troll , this topic has been beaten to death .
If we were on slashdot.ru I think it would be safe to assume that it is a russian based site , whereas slashdot.com is based out of the United States of America , which is in North America .
And we all know the USA is full of com ready to impregnate the rest of the world .
We will have our disease in you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Troll, this topic has been beaten to death.
If we were on slashdot.ru I think it would be safe to assume that it is a russian based site, whereas slashdot.com is based out of the United States of America, which is in North America.
And we all know the USA is full of com ready to impregnate the rest of the world.
We will have our disease in you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29810843</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812851</id>
	<title>Re:pregnant wife + fear</title>
	<author>plague3106</author>
	<datestamp>1256069940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Last March you were both well aware of the economy, jobs and foreign policy.  Not much has changed... except you CHOSE to start a family.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Last March you were both well aware of the economy , jobs and foreign policy .
Not much has changed... except you CHOSE to start a family .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last March you were both well aware of the economy, jobs and foreign policy.
Not much has changed... except you CHOSE to start a family.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811221</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812071</id>
	<title>Re:43 healthy children? Or 43 total children?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256066940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>School bus accidents?<br>Please bear in mind TFA.  I'm glad you read the first part, "Forty-three children have died from swine flu...", but you really should read a little more of the sentence to put that in perspective, "...since Aug. 30...".  TFA was published Oct 16th.  That is less than 50 days.<br>Here is the whole sentence, just for fun.<br>"Forty-three children have died from swine flu since Aug. 30 -- about the same number that usually die in an entire flu season."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>School bus accidents ? Please bear in mind TFA .
I 'm glad you read the first part , " Forty-three children have died from swine flu... " , but you really should read a little more of the sentence to put that in perspective , " ...since Aug. 30... " . TFA was published Oct 16th .
That is less than 50 days.Here is the whole sentence , just for fun .
" Forty-three children have died from swine flu since Aug. 30 -- about the same number that usually die in an entire flu season .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>School bus accidents?Please bear in mind TFA.
I'm glad you read the first part, "Forty-three children have died from swine flu...", but you really should read a little more of the sentence to put that in perspective, "...since Aug. 30...".  TFA was published Oct 16th.
That is less than 50 days.Here is the whole sentence, just for fun.
"Forty-three children have died from swine flu since Aug. 30 -- about the same number that usually die in an entire flu season.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812543</id>
	<title>Re:43 healthy children? Or 43 total children?</title>
	<author>R2.0</author>
	<datestamp>1256068740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Leaving aside your feat of statistical legerdemain, my understanding is that about 50\% of H1N1 heaths so far have been otherwise healthy children and young adults.  As in, up to 35 years old.</p><p>It may not be the Spanish Flu, but it's certainly something to be concerned about, though perhaps not scared.  I might also point out that the Spanish flue wasn't a pandemic either - in 1917.  It eased off at first and then came back with a vengeance in 1918.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Leaving aside your feat of statistical legerdemain , my understanding is that about 50 \ % of H1N1 heaths so far have been otherwise healthy children and young adults .
As in , up to 35 years old.It may not be the Spanish Flu , but it 's certainly something to be concerned about , though perhaps not scared .
I might also point out that the Spanish flue was n't a pandemic either - in 1917 .
It eased off at first and then came back with a vengeance in 1918 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Leaving aside your feat of statistical legerdemain, my understanding is that about 50\% of H1N1 heaths so far have been otherwise healthy children and young adults.
As in, up to 35 years old.It may not be the Spanish Flu, but it's certainly something to be concerned about, though perhaps not scared.
I might also point out that the Spanish flue wasn't a pandemic either - in 1917.
It eased off at first and then came back with a vengeance in 1918.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29814123</id>
	<title>The H1N1 Epidemic is being called Obama's Katrina</title>
	<author>caramuru</author>
	<datestamp>1256031840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The FDA's unconscionable foot dragging could result in tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths in the US.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The FDA 's unconscionable foot dragging could result in tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths in the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The FDA's unconscionable foot dragging could result in tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths in the US.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29823285</id>
	<title>Re:Remember to keep the faith</title>
	<author>skeeto</author>
	<datestamp>1256139180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thank you for being the perfect example of what the GP was talking about!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank you for being the perfect example of what the GP was talking about !
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank you for being the perfect example of what the GP was talking about!
:-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29817835</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811735</id>
	<title>Re:pregnant wife + fear</title>
	<author>scorp1us</author>
	<datestamp>1256065920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, this is adults not growing up and letting government come to the rescue.</p><p>Your wife can safely get the injection, but not the nasal spray.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , this is adults not growing up and letting government come to the rescue.Your wife can safely get the injection , but not the nasal spray .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, this is adults not growing up and letting government come to the rescue.Your wife can safely get the injection, but not the nasal spray.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811897</id>
	<title>Cause:</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1256066340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nationwide Shortange In Supply of Brains! ^^</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nationwide Shortange In Supply of Brains !
^ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nationwide Shortange In Supply of Brains!
^^</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29813745</id>
	<title>Re:How is there a shortage?</title>
	<author>KillerBob</author>
	<datestamp>1256030520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The us didn't order that many. The UK probably ordered that many for the same reason that Canada ordered 50.4 million doses (when the population is about 34 million)... in the early days, it was thought that two doses would be required. So Health Canada ordered enough doses to innoculate 75\% of the national population.</p><p>But like Canada, the UK has not yet taken full delivery of the product. In Canada, only about 2 million doses have actually been delivered. Still, considering that it hasn't yet been approved by Health Canada for human use, that's actually not *that* bad....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The us did n't order that many .
The UK probably ordered that many for the same reason that Canada ordered 50.4 million doses ( when the population is about 34 million ) ... in the early days , it was thought that two doses would be required .
So Health Canada ordered enough doses to innoculate 75 \ % of the national population.But like Canada , the UK has not yet taken full delivery of the product .
In Canada , only about 2 million doses have actually been delivered .
Still , considering that it has n't yet been approved by Health Canada for human use , that 's actually not * that * bad... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The us didn't order that many.
The UK probably ordered that many for the same reason that Canada ordered 50.4 million doses (when the population is about 34 million)... in the early days, it was thought that two doses would be required.
So Health Canada ordered enough doses to innoculate 75\% of the national population.But like Canada, the UK has not yet taken full delivery of the product.
In Canada, only about 2 million doses have actually been delivered.
Still, considering that it hasn't yet been approved by Health Canada for human use, that's actually not *that* bad....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812437</id>
	<title>Not fear of death, it's not wanting to get sick</title>
	<author>thesandtiger</author>
	<datestamp>1256068380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not getting a flu shot because I think I'm going to die from it...</p><p>I'm getting a flu shot because I don't want to be sick as a dog from this thing and miss a week of work.</p><p>The $30 I spend (via insurance) on a flu shot every year pays for itself in that I'm not freaking the fuck out about catching up on work, not having to spend time I'm not at work laying in bed feeling miserable, and not having to shell out $15 a box (and show my ID thanks to meth makers) for pills that'll make me feel slightly less miserable.</p><p>I used to not get flu shots, and I got sick as a dog at least once a winter with whatever was going around. I now get flu shots and for the last 3 winters I haven't been sick with anything more than the sniffles, and I work in an office that seems to have plagues running through it at least once a quarter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not getting a flu shot because I think I 'm going to die from it...I 'm getting a flu shot because I do n't want to be sick as a dog from this thing and miss a week of work.The $ 30 I spend ( via insurance ) on a flu shot every year pays for itself in that I 'm not freaking the fuck out about catching up on work , not having to spend time I 'm not at work laying in bed feeling miserable , and not having to shell out $ 15 a box ( and show my ID thanks to meth makers ) for pills that 'll make me feel slightly less miserable.I used to not get flu shots , and I got sick as a dog at least once a winter with whatever was going around .
I now get flu shots and for the last 3 winters I have n't been sick with anything more than the sniffles , and I work in an office that seems to have plagues running through it at least once a quarter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not getting a flu shot because I think I'm going to die from it...I'm getting a flu shot because I don't want to be sick as a dog from this thing and miss a week of work.The $30 I spend (via insurance) on a flu shot every year pays for itself in that I'm not freaking the fuck out about catching up on work, not having to spend time I'm not at work laying in bed feeling miserable, and not having to shell out $15 a box (and show my ID thanks to meth makers) for pills that'll make me feel slightly less miserable.I used to not get flu shots, and I got sick as a dog at least once a winter with whatever was going around.
I now get flu shots and for the last 3 winters I haven't been sick with anything more than the sniffles, and I work in an office that seems to have plagues running through it at least once a quarter.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29810931</id>
	<title>Same News Cycle Every Year</title>
	<author>Dripdry</author>
	<datestamp>1256063280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) Summer: This flu is the WORST flu we've seen in years. Better get a vaccine!</p><p>2) October: We're running out of flu vaccine!</p><p>3) November-January: Oops, soorry, it turns out the flu vaccine we were using? It didn't do much against the flu outbreak that happened</p><p>4) ?</p><p>5) Profit</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Summer : This flu is the WORST flu we 've seen in years .
Better get a vaccine ! 2 ) October : We 're running out of flu vaccine ! 3 ) November-January : Oops , soorry , it turns out the flu vaccine we were using ?
It did n't do much against the flu outbreak that happened4 ) ? 5 ) Profit</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Summer: This flu is the WORST flu we've seen in years.
Better get a vaccine!2) October: We're running out of flu vaccine!3) November-January: Oops, soorry, it turns out the flu vaccine we were using?
It didn't do much against the flu outbreak that happened4) ?5) Profit</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29818333</id>
	<title>Re:pregnant wife + fear</title>
	<author>halcyon1234</author>
	<datestamp>1256052240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My fiance is also a school teacher, and has multiple kids out with H1N1.</p><p>Of course, when the parents say "H1N1", that's actually "my snowflake has the sniffles and needs time at the spa to relax. Can you reschedule her test again?</p><p>And, English being the funny language it is, with words having multiple meanings, "H1N1" also means "summer school"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My fiance is also a school teacher , and has multiple kids out with H1N1.Of course , when the parents say " H1N1 " , that 's actually " my snowflake has the sniffles and needs time at the spa to relax .
Can you reschedule her test again ? And , English being the funny language it is , with words having multiple meanings , " H1N1 " also means " summer school "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My fiance is also a school teacher, and has multiple kids out with H1N1.Of course, when the parents say "H1N1", that's actually "my snowflake has the sniffles and needs time at the spa to relax.
Can you reschedule her test again?And, English being the funny language it is, with words having multiple meanings, "H1N1" also means "summer school"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29817329</id>
	<title>Re:Not fear of death, it's not wanting to get sick</title>
	<author>DigiShaman</author>
	<datestamp>1256046240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wish the vaccine was available last month. I got the flu a few weeks ago that felt like being hit by a bus! IE, normal flu but twice a bad. Once I broke my fever and started felling a lot better, I came down with a nasty case of bronchitis on the verge of becoming pneumonia!</p><p>While I'm over it now, two of my co-workers came down with the same flu a few days later. However, they didn't get bronchitis. While I'll never know if it was truely the N1H1 strain, the CDC stated that 99\% of all flu infections are N1H1. Being that I've never had a flu this bad before, I'm going to guess it was the N1H1.</p><p>BTW, living in Houston, TX. Get the bloody vaccine ASAP. This one sucks balls!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish the vaccine was available last month .
I got the flu a few weeks ago that felt like being hit by a bus !
IE , normal flu but twice a bad .
Once I broke my fever and started felling a lot better , I came down with a nasty case of bronchitis on the verge of becoming pneumonia ! While I 'm over it now , two of my co-workers came down with the same flu a few days later .
However , they did n't get bronchitis .
While I 'll never know if it was truely the N1H1 strain , the CDC stated that 99 \ % of all flu infections are N1H1 .
Being that I 've never had a flu this bad before , I 'm going to guess it was the N1H1.BTW , living in Houston , TX .
Get the bloody vaccine ASAP .
This one sucks balls !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish the vaccine was available last month.
I got the flu a few weeks ago that felt like being hit by a bus!
IE, normal flu but twice a bad.
Once I broke my fever and started felling a lot better, I came down with a nasty case of bronchitis on the verge of becoming pneumonia!While I'm over it now, two of my co-workers came down with the same flu a few days later.
However, they didn't get bronchitis.
While I'll never know if it was truely the N1H1 strain, the CDC stated that 99\% of all flu infections are N1H1.
Being that I've never had a flu this bad before, I'm going to guess it was the N1H1.BTW, living in Houston, TX.
Get the bloody vaccine ASAP.
This one sucks balls!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811609</id>
	<title>Whoa</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256065560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I become dirt poor for 3 months, lose my computer and internet access, and apparently time has stood still for me? Swine flu hahaha, you people are actually scared aren't you? This is excellent, I didn't miss a beat, except now my stupid friends don't wear their novelty t-shirts anymore. Did everyone change sides on me while I was reading books only when the sun was up?<br>
<br>
Someone tell me about this.  I haven't washed my hands after going to the bathroom (yes even public restrooms) or doing anything in years. Haven't touched antibacterial soap in my life, and am in decent physical condition.  Also, I just got a job in retail. Should I have already peed my pants cowering in the corner? Or am I set for life with the kind of immune system exercise I get.<br>
<br>
I can't wait until all the overprotective moms in the world have a big giant overprotective funeral for their sheltered children, and we can enter a new era of parenting based on rational thought.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I become dirt poor for 3 months , lose my computer and internet access , and apparently time has stood still for me ?
Swine flu hahaha , you people are actually scared are n't you ?
This is excellent , I did n't miss a beat , except now my stupid friends do n't wear their novelty t-shirts anymore .
Did everyone change sides on me while I was reading books only when the sun was up ?
Someone tell me about this .
I have n't washed my hands after going to the bathroom ( yes even public restrooms ) or doing anything in years .
Have n't touched antibacterial soap in my life , and am in decent physical condition .
Also , I just got a job in retail .
Should I have already peed my pants cowering in the corner ?
Or am I set for life with the kind of immune system exercise I get .
I ca n't wait until all the overprotective moms in the world have a big giant overprotective funeral for their sheltered children , and we can enter a new era of parenting based on rational thought .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I become dirt poor for 3 months, lose my computer and internet access, and apparently time has stood still for me?
Swine flu hahaha, you people are actually scared aren't you?
This is excellent, I didn't miss a beat, except now my stupid friends don't wear their novelty t-shirts anymore.
Did everyone change sides on me while I was reading books only when the sun was up?
Someone tell me about this.
I haven't washed my hands after going to the bathroom (yes even public restrooms) or doing anything in years.
Haven't touched antibacterial soap in my life, and am in decent physical condition.
Also, I just got a job in retail.
Should I have already peed my pants cowering in the corner?
Or am I set for life with the kind of immune system exercise I get.
I can't wait until all the overprotective moms in the world have a big giant overprotective funeral for their sheltered children, and we can enter a new era of parenting based on rational thought.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29814917</id>
	<title>Re:Why I am getting the vaccine</title>
	<author>Sj0</author>
	<datestamp>1256034420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't put an outdated religious ceremony taken way too far in the same universe as one of the 3 biggest developments in modern medicine alongside running water and antibiotics.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't put an outdated religious ceremony taken way too far in the same universe as one of the 3 biggest developments in modern medicine alongside running water and antibiotics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't put an outdated religious ceremony taken way too far in the same universe as one of the 3 biggest developments in modern medicine alongside running water and antibiotics.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29813449</id>
	<title>Re:Same News Cycle Every Year</title>
	<author>Kelson</author>
	<datestamp>1256029440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One difference: the seasonal flu vaccine is based on predicting ahead of time which strains of flu are likely to circulate during the upcoming flu season and targeting those strains.  Sometimes the predictions are accurate, sometimes they're not.  The H1N1 vaccine targets a specific strain that we <b>know</b> is circulating.</p><p>In RFC terms:<br>A seasonal flu vaccine MAY protect you from seasonal flu.<br>An H1N1 flu vaccine SHOULD protect you from H1N1 flu.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One difference : the seasonal flu vaccine is based on predicting ahead of time which strains of flu are likely to circulate during the upcoming flu season and targeting those strains .
Sometimes the predictions are accurate , sometimes they 're not .
The H1N1 vaccine targets a specific strain that we know is circulating.In RFC terms : A seasonal flu vaccine MAY protect you from seasonal flu.An H1N1 flu vaccine SHOULD protect you from H1N1 flu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One difference: the seasonal flu vaccine is based on predicting ahead of time which strains of flu are likely to circulate during the upcoming flu season and targeting those strains.
Sometimes the predictions are accurate, sometimes they're not.
The H1N1 vaccine targets a specific strain that we know is circulating.In RFC terms:A seasonal flu vaccine MAY protect you from seasonal flu.An H1N1 flu vaccine SHOULD protect you from H1N1 flu.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29810809</id>
	<title>False Statements</title>
	<author>acoustix</author>
	<datestamp>1256062800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>"Forty-three children have died from swine flu since August 30 &mdash; about the same number that usually die in an entire flu season."</i></p><p>That statement is blatantly false.  Over 35,000 people die in the US from the flu every year.  Hundreds, if not thousands, of children die from the flu every year.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Forty-three children have died from swine flu since August 30    about the same number that usually die in an entire flu season .
" That statement is blatantly false .
Over 35,000 people die in the US from the flu every year .
Hundreds , if not thousands , of children die from the flu every year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Forty-three children have died from swine flu since August 30 — about the same number that usually die in an entire flu season.
"That statement is blatantly false.
Over 35,000 people die in the US from the flu every year.
Hundreds, if not thousands, of children die from the flu every year.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29818357</id>
	<title>Nigeria</title>
	<author>halcyon1234</author>
	<datestamp>1256052360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nigeria is also having troubles getting enough vaccine to go around. But that's because their government shut down everything.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nigeria is also having troubles getting enough vaccine to go around .
But that 's because their government shut down everything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nigeria is also having troubles getting enough vaccine to go around.
But that's because their government shut down everything.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812447</id>
	<title>Blame Canada</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256068380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What are they doing  <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS174069+20-Oct-2009+BW20091020" title="reuters.com" rel="nofollow">87 million doses</a> [reuters.com] with only <a href="http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&amp;source=hp&amp;q=canada+population&amp;btnG=Google+Search&amp;meta=&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=canada+population&amp;fp=f320c4da25edf1bd" title="google.ca" rel="nofollow">33 million people?</a> [google.ca]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What are they doing 87 million doses [ reuters.com ] with only 33 million people ?
[ google.ca ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are they doing  87 million doses [reuters.com] with only 33 million people?
[google.ca]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29813209</id>
	<title>Re:Die Die Die</title>
	<author>IMightB</author>
	<datestamp>1256071740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, I'd just like to point out something on death panels...   We already have them, and they're private - for profit - death panels.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , I 'd just like to point out something on death panels... We already have them , and they 're private - for profit - death panels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I'd just like to point out something on death panels...   We already have them, and they're private - for profit - death panels.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29816131</id>
	<title>Re:pregnant wife + fear</title>
	<author>coldtone</author>
	<datestamp>1256040180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm in the same boat. First Baby due in Dec.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm in the same boat .
First Baby due in Dec .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm in the same boat.
First Baby due in Dec.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29814381</id>
	<title>Re:Same News Cycle Every Year</title>
	<author>TheSync</author>
	<datestamp>1256032560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The reason this country has gone from 20+ flu vaccine manufacturers a decade ago to 2 today is because it's so unprofitable.</p><p> <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-mon-vaccine-boon-oct19,0,7474786.story" title="chicagotribune.com">Not sure about that:</a> [chicagotribune.com]</p><p><i>A half-dozen U.S. companies are producing seasonal flu vaccines this year, double the number from five years ago. In the late 1990s, the number of seasonal flu vaccine-makers dwindled to just two because excess capacity caused prices to fall to the $2-a-dose range. Today, seasonal flu dosages list for about $15 each at wholesale prices.</i></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public\_Readiness\_and\_Emergency\_Preparedness\_Act" title="wikipedia.org">PREPA</a> [wikipedia.org] was passed in 2005 and dramatically reduced the liability of vaccine makers.  Then Bush dropped $1 billion onto folks like GlaxoSmithKline and Novartis for R&amp;D to speed up vaccine production (in fear of the Avian Flu).</p><p>How do vaccines stack up to "normal" drugs?  Not much money in vaccines, but not insignificant either:</p><p><i>The U.S. vaccine industry, which also includes vaccines for cancer, accounted for $4.7 billion in annual sales last year. In the same period, Pfizer Inc. sold nearly $8 billion worth of the cholesterol drug Lipitor, and AstraZeneca PLC generated $6 billion in sales from its heartburn pill Nexium, according to industry reports.</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason this country has gone from 20 + flu vaccine manufacturers a decade ago to 2 today is because it 's so unprofitable .
Not sure about that : [ chicagotribune.com ] A half-dozen U.S. companies are producing seasonal flu vaccines this year , double the number from five years ago .
In the late 1990s , the number of seasonal flu vaccine-makers dwindled to just two because excess capacity caused prices to fall to the $ 2-a-dose range .
Today , seasonal flu dosages list for about $ 15 each at wholesale prices.PREPA [ wikipedia.org ] was passed in 2005 and dramatically reduced the liability of vaccine makers .
Then Bush dropped $ 1 billion onto folks like GlaxoSmithKline and Novartis for R&amp;D to speed up vaccine production ( in fear of the Avian Flu ) .How do vaccines stack up to " normal " drugs ?
Not much money in vaccines , but not insignificant either : The U.S. vaccine industry , which also includes vaccines for cancer , accounted for $ 4.7 billion in annual sales last year .
In the same period , Pfizer Inc. sold nearly $ 8 billion worth of the cholesterol drug Lipitor , and AstraZeneca PLC generated $ 6 billion in sales from its heartburn pill Nexium , according to industry reports .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason this country has gone from 20+ flu vaccine manufacturers a decade ago to 2 today is because it's so unprofitable.
Not sure about that: [chicagotribune.com]A half-dozen U.S. companies are producing seasonal flu vaccines this year, double the number from five years ago.
In the late 1990s, the number of seasonal flu vaccine-makers dwindled to just two because excess capacity caused prices to fall to the $2-a-dose range.
Today, seasonal flu dosages list for about $15 each at wholesale prices.PREPA [wikipedia.org] was passed in 2005 and dramatically reduced the liability of vaccine makers.
Then Bush dropped $1 billion onto folks like GlaxoSmithKline and Novartis for R&amp;D to speed up vaccine production (in fear of the Avian Flu).How do vaccines stack up to "normal" drugs?
Not much money in vaccines, but not insignificant either:The U.S. vaccine industry, which also includes vaccines for cancer, accounted for $4.7 billion in annual sales last year.
In the same period, Pfizer Inc. sold nearly $8 billion worth of the cholesterol drug Lipitor, and AstraZeneca PLC generated $6 billion in sales from its heartburn pill Nexium, according to industry reports.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29813501</id>
	<title>First read about vaccines</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256029620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One good source:<br><a href="http://garynull.com/SwineFluWhitePaper.pdf" title="garynull.com" rel="nofollow">http://garynull.com/SwineFluWhitePaper.pdf</a> [garynull.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One good source : http : //garynull.com/SwineFluWhitePaper.pdf [ garynull.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One good source:http://garynull.com/SwineFluWhitePaper.pdf [garynull.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811529</id>
	<title>Remember to keep the faith</title>
	<author>Gadget\_Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1256065260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The shortage of resources is reason we have a duty to keep deriding the vaccination program. We need to ensure that those people who think they know better than all the medically trained scientists do not get vaccinated. That way there will be enough of the Swine Flu vaccine for the worthwhile members of society.</p><p>It would be unethical to prevent stupid people from being vaccinated, but there is nothing wrong with sowing the seeds of discontent so that they voluntarily abstain. And when the more deadly strain of H1N1 wipes out a third of the population....</p><p>Well, nobody will care that much. It is the <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/hitchhikers/guide/golgafrincham.shtml" title="bbc.co.uk">"B" Ark</a> [bbc.co.uk] theory of trimming the fat of society. "Ah yes, the goat"</p><p>PS. Thanks to all the other posters for the fine work they are doing towards our goal. It must be hard to keep a straight face while writing some of those messages!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The shortage of resources is reason we have a duty to keep deriding the vaccination program .
We need to ensure that those people who think they know better than all the medically trained scientists do not get vaccinated .
That way there will be enough of the Swine Flu vaccine for the worthwhile members of society.It would be unethical to prevent stupid people from being vaccinated , but there is nothing wrong with sowing the seeds of discontent so that they voluntarily abstain .
And when the more deadly strain of H1N1 wipes out a third of the population....Well , nobody will care that much .
It is the " B " Ark [ bbc.co.uk ] theory of trimming the fat of society .
" Ah yes , the goat " PS .
Thanks to all the other posters for the fine work they are doing towards our goal .
It must be hard to keep a straight face while writing some of those messages !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The shortage of resources is reason we have a duty to keep deriding the vaccination program.
We need to ensure that those people who think they know better than all the medically trained scientists do not get vaccinated.
That way there will be enough of the Swine Flu vaccine for the worthwhile members of society.It would be unethical to prevent stupid people from being vaccinated, but there is nothing wrong with sowing the seeds of discontent so that they voluntarily abstain.
And when the more deadly strain of H1N1 wipes out a third of the population....Well, nobody will care that much.
It is the "B" Ark [bbc.co.uk] theory of trimming the fat of society.
"Ah yes, the goat"PS.
Thanks to all the other posters for the fine work they are doing towards our goal.
It must be hard to keep a straight face while writing some of those messages!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29810819</id>
	<title>Influenza Vaccines are Ineffective at Best</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256062800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And quite likeley fraudulent and actually harmful.</p><p>Do NOT inject <i>contaminated</i> virus proteins into <b>MY</b> bloodstream, thanks you very much!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And quite likeley fraudulent and actually harmful.Do NOT inject contaminated virus proteins into MY bloodstream , thanks you very much !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And quite likeley fraudulent and actually harmful.Do NOT inject contaminated virus proteins into MY bloodstream, thanks you very much!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812587</id>
	<title>Turning Gray?</title>
	<author>Jason Levine</author>
	<datestamp>1256068860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My youngest son turned gray last year.  He was running a fever, so as per doctor's orders, we put him in a bath of room temperature water.  He started to seize so we pulled him out.  Then he stopped breathing and turned gray.  We had gone through a previous febrile seizure with my older son so we pretty much knew what to expect.  The older son turned blue, stopped breathing then started up on his own.  Unfortunately, our youngest didn't start breathing again.  Luckily, my mother-in-law was there and did rescue breaths on him until he began breathing again.  To this day, we're convinced that she saved his life.  We never quite found out why his fever went up, but we did find out that a mucus plug kept him from restarting breathing.  He spent a few days in the hospital to make sure he was alright.  Given that story, you can probably understand why our son possibly getting the flu scares us so much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My youngest son turned gray last year .
He was running a fever , so as per doctor 's orders , we put him in a bath of room temperature water .
He started to seize so we pulled him out .
Then he stopped breathing and turned gray .
We had gone through a previous febrile seizure with my older son so we pretty much knew what to expect .
The older son turned blue , stopped breathing then started up on his own .
Unfortunately , our youngest did n't start breathing again .
Luckily , my mother-in-law was there and did rescue breaths on him until he began breathing again .
To this day , we 're convinced that she saved his life .
We never quite found out why his fever went up , but we did find out that a mucus plug kept him from restarting breathing .
He spent a few days in the hospital to make sure he was alright .
Given that story , you can probably understand why our son possibly getting the flu scares us so much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My youngest son turned gray last year.
He was running a fever, so as per doctor's orders, we put him in a bath of room temperature water.
He started to seize so we pulled him out.
Then he stopped breathing and turned gray.
We had gone through a previous febrile seizure with my older son so we pretty much knew what to expect.
The older son turned blue, stopped breathing then started up on his own.
Unfortunately, our youngest didn't start breathing again.
Luckily, my mother-in-law was there and did rescue breaths on him until he began breathing again.
To this day, we're convinced that she saved his life.
We never quite found out why his fever went up, but we did find out that a mucus plug kept him from restarting breathing.
He spent a few days in the hospital to make sure he was alright.
Given that story, you can probably understand why our son possibly getting the flu scares us so much.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29813013</id>
	<title>Re:Obviously it's time for...</title>
	<author>Sj0</author>
	<datestamp>1256070720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WHY? Why are you still typing? Don't you realise we have to PANIC?!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>WHY ?
Why are you still typing ?
Do n't you realise we have to PANIC ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WHY?
Why are you still typing?
Don't you realise we have to PANIC?
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811431</id>
	<title>Re:Same News Cycle Every Year</title>
	<author>samkass</author>
	<datestamp>1256064840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>5) Profit</p></div></blockquote><p>[Citation Needed].  Do you have any quarterly/annual reports to back that up?</p><p>The reason this country has gone from 20+ flu vaccine manufacturers a decade ago to 2 today is because it's so unprofitable.  It's possible the companies will make a profit on it this year because of the virulence of H1N1, but claiming some sort of profit motive for annual fly vaccine is, from my understanding, wildly innaccurate.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>5 ) Profit [ Citation Needed ] .
Do you have any quarterly/annual reports to back that up ? The reason this country has gone from 20 + flu vaccine manufacturers a decade ago to 2 today is because it 's so unprofitable .
It 's possible the companies will make a profit on it this year because of the virulence of H1N1 , but claiming some sort of profit motive for annual fly vaccine is , from my understanding , wildly innaccurate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>5) Profit[Citation Needed].
Do you have any quarterly/annual reports to back that up?The reason this country has gone from 20+ flu vaccine manufacturers a decade ago to 2 today is because it's so unprofitable.
It's possible the companies will make a profit on it this year because of the virulence of H1N1, but claiming some sort of profit motive for annual fly vaccine is, from my understanding, wildly innaccurate.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29810997</id>
	<title>Obviously it's time for...</title>
	<author>croftj</author>
	<datestamp>1256063460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>PANIC and Irrational fear!!! Run for your lives!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>PANIC and Irrational fear ! ! !
Run for your lives !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PANIC and Irrational fear!!!
Run for your lives!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811399</id>
	<title>Apples and oranges</title>
	<author>overshoot</author>
	<datestamp>1256064780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>Over 35,000 people die in the US from the flu every year. Hundreds, if not thousands, of children die from the flu every year.</i></p></div> </blockquote><p>

The 35K/year number is excess deaths due to influenza, and is derived by fancy statistics from the time series of deaths in medical categories (i.e. gunshot wounds don't get figured in.)  You can read more on how difficult this process is at <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/" title="scienceblogs.com">Effect Measure</a> [scienceblogs.com].</p><p>

The "number of children" statistic, on the other hand, is confirmed 2009 H1N1 novel influenza diagnoses on the death certificate.  No inference required, they are kids with confirmed infections which led directly to their deaths.</p><p>

Both statements are true, in context.  Please be a little less generous with the F-word.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Over 35,000 people die in the US from the flu every year .
Hundreds , if not thousands , of children die from the flu every year .
The 35K/year number is excess deaths due to influenza , and is derived by fancy statistics from the time series of deaths in medical categories ( i.e .
gunshot wounds do n't get figured in .
) You can read more on how difficult this process is at Effect Measure [ scienceblogs.com ] .
The " number of children " statistic , on the other hand , is confirmed 2009 H1N1 novel influenza diagnoses on the death certificate .
No inference required , they are kids with confirmed infections which led directly to their deaths .
Both statements are true , in context .
Please be a little less generous with the F-word .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Over 35,000 people die in the US from the flu every year.
Hundreds, if not thousands, of children die from the flu every year.
The 35K/year number is excess deaths due to influenza, and is derived by fancy statistics from the time series of deaths in medical categories (i.e.
gunshot wounds don't get figured in.
)  You can read more on how difficult this process is at Effect Measure [scienceblogs.com].
The "number of children" statistic, on the other hand, is confirmed 2009 H1N1 novel influenza diagnoses on the death certificate.
No inference required, they are kids with confirmed infections which led directly to their deaths.
Both statements are true, in context.
Please be a little less generous with the F-word.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811111</id>
	<title>Re:False Statements</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256063760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Citation?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Citation ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Citation?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29810913</id>
	<title>43 healthy children?  Or 43 total children?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256063160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It makes a difference.  All forms of influenza are devastating to an ill child.  We must assume that some ill children have been exposed to H1N1 by now.  So, which is the case:</p><p>1) All 43 were ill</p><p>2) None of th 43 were ill</p><p>3) Some portion of the 43 were ill</p><p>Also bear in mind that this is only about twice (possibly trending towards three times) as deadly as using school-buses:</p><p>"Approximately 27 school aged children die in school bus accidents every year." <a href="http://www.onlinelawyersource.com/personal\_injury/bus/statistics.html" title="onlinelawyersource.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.onlinelawyersource.com/personal\_injury/bus/statistics.html</a> [onlinelawyersource.com]</p><p>The 1918 pandemic was certainly something that we do not wish to see repeated.  However, it was deadlier than this situation on the order of millions of times more.</p><p>Please stop scaring people.  Please?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It makes a difference .
All forms of influenza are devastating to an ill child .
We must assume that some ill children have been exposed to H1N1 by now .
So , which is the case : 1 ) All 43 were ill2 ) None of th 43 were ill3 ) Some portion of the 43 were illAlso bear in mind that this is only about twice ( possibly trending towards three times ) as deadly as using school-buses : " Approximately 27 school aged children die in school bus accidents every year .
" http : //www.onlinelawyersource.com/personal \ _injury/bus/statistics.html [ onlinelawyersource.com ] The 1918 pandemic was certainly something that we do not wish to see repeated .
However , it was deadlier than this situation on the order of millions of times more.Please stop scaring people .
Please ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It makes a difference.
All forms of influenza are devastating to an ill child.
We must assume that some ill children have been exposed to H1N1 by now.
So, which is the case:1) All 43 were ill2) None of th 43 were ill3) Some portion of the 43 were illAlso bear in mind that this is only about twice (possibly trending towards three times) as deadly as using school-buses:"Approximately 27 school aged children die in school bus accidents every year.
" http://www.onlinelawyersource.com/personal\_injury/bus/statistics.html [onlinelawyersource.com]The 1918 pandemic was certainly something that we do not wish to see repeated.
However, it was deadlier than this situation on the order of millions of times more.Please stop scaring people.
Please?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29813067</id>
	<title>Re:Same News Cycle Every Year</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256070960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><blockquote><div><p>5) Profit</p></div></blockquote><p>[Citation Needed].  Do you have any quarterly/annual reports to back that up?</p><p>The reason this country has gone from 20+ flu vaccine manufacturers a decade ago to 2 today is because it's so unprofitable. </p></div><p>[Citation Needed]</p><p>Well, worldwide there are quite a few (and actually 3 in USA)<br>http://www.who.int/entity/csr/disease/influenza/Influenza\_vaccine\_manufacturers2009\_05.pdf</p><p>Either way, does a reduction in the number of players in a business necessarily indicate that it's not profitable?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>5 ) Profit [ Citation Needed ] .
Do you have any quarterly/annual reports to back that up ? The reason this country has gone from 20 + flu vaccine manufacturers a decade ago to 2 today is because it 's so unprofitable .
[ Citation Needed ] Well , worldwide there are quite a few ( and actually 3 in USA ) http : //www.who.int/entity/csr/disease/influenza/Influenza \ _vaccine \ _manufacturers2009 \ _05.pdfEither way , does a reduction in the number of players in a business necessarily indicate that it 's not profitable ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>5) Profit[Citation Needed].
Do you have any quarterly/annual reports to back that up?The reason this country has gone from 20+ flu vaccine manufacturers a decade ago to 2 today is because it's so unprofitable.
[Citation Needed]Well, worldwide there are quite a few (and actually 3 in USA)http://www.who.int/entity/csr/disease/influenza/Influenza\_vaccine\_manufacturers2009\_05.pdfEither way, does a reduction in the number of players in a business necessarily indicate that it's not profitable?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811715</id>
	<title>Don't be an ass.</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1256065860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First, government is responsible: the CDC is in charge of this operation.</p><p>Second, A deliberate decision was made to ship the stuff as fast as it was made rather than stockpiling it and coordinating distribution in order to get it out as fast as possible.  It was expected that this would result in "shortages and lines".  Better that than everybody waiting another month.</p><p>Third, given the leadtime they had (controlled by the virus, not the humans) they have done a remarkable job getting a significant amount of vaccine out this early at all.</p><p>I say this despite being a definite non-fan of government.  I'm sure a truly free society (there are none) could do as well or better, but we have to work with what we have.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First , government is responsible : the CDC is in charge of this operation.Second , A deliberate decision was made to ship the stuff as fast as it was made rather than stockpiling it and coordinating distribution in order to get it out as fast as possible .
It was expected that this would result in " shortages and lines " .
Better that than everybody waiting another month.Third , given the leadtime they had ( controlled by the virus , not the humans ) they have done a remarkable job getting a significant amount of vaccine out this early at all.I say this despite being a definite non-fan of government .
I 'm sure a truly free society ( there are none ) could do as well or better , but we have to work with what we have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First, government is responsible: the CDC is in charge of this operation.Second, A deliberate decision was made to ship the stuff as fast as it was made rather than stockpiling it and coordinating distribution in order to get it out as fast as possible.
It was expected that this would result in "shortages and lines".
Better that than everybody waiting another month.Third, given the leadtime they had (controlled by the virus, not the humans) they have done a remarkable job getting a significant amount of vaccine out this early at all.I say this despite being a definite non-fan of government.
I'm sure a truly free society (there are none) could do as well or better, but we have to work with what we have.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811135</id>
	<title>Re:43 healthy children? Or 43 total children?</title>
	<author>nedlohs</author>
	<datestamp>1256063820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously you compare the number of deaths annually of one cause (OK there are 180 school days usually...) with the number of deaths in a 47 day period for another cause. And keep a straight face?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously you compare the number of deaths annually of one cause ( OK there are 180 school days usually... ) with the number of deaths in a 47 day period for another cause .
And keep a straight face ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously you compare the number of deaths annually of one cause (OK there are 180 school days usually...) with the number of deaths in a 47 day period for another cause.
And keep a straight face?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29816733</id>
	<title>Re:Apples and oranges</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256043540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Please be a little less generous with the F-word.</p></div><p>Sorry with everyone else going 'flu this' and 'flu that', I thought I'd get in on the action.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Please be a little less generous with the F-word.Sorry with everyone else going 'flu this ' and 'flu that ' , I thought I 'd get in on the action .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please be a little less generous with the F-word.Sorry with everyone else going 'flu this' and 'flu that', I thought I'd get in on the action.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811131</id>
	<title>Re:Which nation?</title>
	<author>srleffler</author>
	<datestamp>1256063820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since the linked article is in the New York Times, the context ought to be clear enough.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since the linked article is in the New York Times , the context ought to be clear enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since the linked article is in the New York Times, the context ought to be clear enough.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29816205</id>
	<title>Re:You know</title>
	<author>plasmacutter</author>
	<datestamp>1256040600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You cannot go running around, blaming this on the right wing, on fox news and so on.</p></div><p>yes, he can. 2010 is next year, senators in moderate districts are up for re-election, and faux news somehow manages to continually pass off the mass of GOP propaganda they spew as "news".</p><p>I want to see laws imposed to reserve the "news" label for those who can show good-faith effort at balance and fact-checking, for those who report rather than manufacture and distort the news.</p></div>
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<tokenext>You can not go running around , blaming this on the right wing , on fox news and so on.yes , he can .
2010 is next year , senators in moderate districts are up for re-election , and faux news somehow manages to continually pass off the mass of GOP propaganda they spew as " news " .I want to see laws imposed to reserve the " news " label for those who can show good-faith effort at balance and fact-checking , for those who report rather than manufacture and distort the news .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You cannot go running around, blaming this on the right wing, on fox news and so on.yes, he can.
2010 is next year, senators in moderate districts are up for re-election, and faux news somehow manages to continually pass off the mass of GOP propaganda they spew as "news".I want to see laws imposed to reserve the "news" label for those who can show good-faith effort at balance and fact-checking, for those who report rather than manufacture and distort the news.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811621</id>
	<title>Quit whining</title>
	<author>davidwr</author>
	<datestamp>1256065620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A few hundreds kids and maybe a few hundred young adults will die from the swine flu this year.</p><p>Compare that with the many more that die in car wrecks each year.</p><p>Yes, this is serious, and yes, we should get a flu shot when one becomes available, but no, we shouldn't moan and groan and say "woe is me" when there are far worse things to moan and groan about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A few hundreds kids and maybe a few hundred young adults will die from the swine flu this year.Compare that with the many more that die in car wrecks each year.Yes , this is serious , and yes , we should get a flu shot when one becomes available , but no , we should n't moan and groan and say " woe is me " when there are far worse things to moan and groan about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A few hundreds kids and maybe a few hundred young adults will die from the swine flu this year.Compare that with the many more that die in car wrecks each year.Yes, this is serious, and yes, we should get a flu shot when one becomes available, but no, we shouldn't moan and groan and say "woe is me" when there are far worse things to moan and groan about.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811659</id>
	<title>Re:False Statements</title>
	<author>arth1</author>
	<datestamp>1256065740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But "flu" isn't one of the diseases with mandatory tests and reporting to CSC, so these numbers only reflect a small subset of deaths.<br>I.e. likely when the cause of death was not clear, an autopsy was performed, influenza determined to be the cause (as opposed to ebola or inhaling cynoacrylates), and the doctor voluntarily reporting this to the CSC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But " flu " is n't one of the diseases with mandatory tests and reporting to CSC , so these numbers only reflect a small subset of deaths.I.e .
likely when the cause of death was not clear , an autopsy was performed , influenza determined to be the cause ( as opposed to ebola or inhaling cynoacrylates ) , and the doctor voluntarily reporting this to the CSC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But "flu" isn't one of the diseases with mandatory tests and reporting to CSC, so these numbers only reflect a small subset of deaths.I.e.
likely when the cause of death was not clear, an autopsy was performed, influenza determined to be the cause (as opposed to ebola or inhaling cynoacrylates), and the doctor voluntarily reporting this to the CSC.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811987</id>
	<title>Re:Same News Cycle Every Year</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256066700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Besides you haven't actually been reading any of the new articles have you!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Besides you have n't actually been reading any of the new articles have you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Besides you haven't actually been reading any of the new articles have you!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811221</id>
	<title>pregnant wife + fear</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256064000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>My 7 months pregnant wife works as a school teacher and has multiple students out with H1N1. I have never worried before about anything like I worry these days. Jobs, economy, foreign policy, health, the future, they all take on new meaning when you have a family. To quote Blink, "I guess this is growing up".</div>
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<tokenext>My 7 months pregnant wife works as a school teacher and has multiple students out with H1N1 .
I have never worried before about anything like I worry these days .
Jobs , economy , foreign policy , health , the future , they all take on new meaning when you have a family .
To quote Blink , " I guess this is growing up " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My 7 months pregnant wife works as a school teacher and has multiple students out with H1N1.
I have never worried before about anything like I worry these days.
Jobs, economy, foreign policy, health, the future, they all take on new meaning when you have a family.
To quote Blink, "I guess this is growing up".
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29813955</id>
	<title>Re:Same News Cycle Every Year</title>
	<author>tool462</author>
	<datestamp>1256031300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Got a source?</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline\_of\_vaccines" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline\_of\_vaccines</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>1945, first Influenza vaccine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Got a source ? http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline \ _of \ _vaccines [ wikipedia.org ] 1945 , first Influenza vaccine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Got a source?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline\_of\_vaccines [wikipedia.org]1945, first Influenza vaccine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811769</id>
	<title>Symptoms</title>
	<author>bar-agent</author>
	<datestamp>1256065980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Schuchat warned parents with sick children to be alert for signs that medical attention is required including<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... turning blue or gray.</i></p><p>No shit. You mean that's not normal?</p><p>Guess I'd better get the little ones to the hospital.</p><p>And maybe stop nicknaming them "Grant" and "Lee."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Schuchat warned parents with sick children to be alert for signs that medical attention is required including ... turning blue or gray.No shit .
You mean that 's not normal ? Guess I 'd better get the little ones to the hospital.And maybe stop nicknaming them " Grant " and " Lee .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Schuchat warned parents with sick children to be alert for signs that medical attention is required including ... turning blue or gray.No shit.
You mean that's not normal?Guess I'd better get the little ones to the hospital.And maybe stop nicknaming them "Grant" and "Lee.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811835</id>
	<title>Re:Influenza Vaccines are Ineffective at Best</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1256066160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have no doubts about the overall benefit of vaccines (properly tested and controlled of course), but I don't get the impression a string of insults will help the situation.<br> <br>

I don't want to spend too much time searching - I found studies related to the MMR vaccine, being a popular target of public mistrust. This is a paper discussing a lack of association between Autism and MMR vaccine: <a href="http://www.immunisation.nhs.uk/Library/Research/Key\_Research\_Papers/50" title="immunisation.nhs.uk">http://www.immunisation.nhs.uk/Library/Research/Key\_Research\_Papers/50</a> [immunisation.nhs.uk]. I couldn't immediately find studies about flu vaccines, but I merely did a low-effort search of the NIH and NHS sites.<br> <br>

Maybe someone else can find evidence to show to people that believe the flu vaccine is more harmful than helpful.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have no doubts about the overall benefit of vaccines ( properly tested and controlled of course ) , but I do n't get the impression a string of insults will help the situation .
I do n't want to spend too much time searching - I found studies related to the MMR vaccine , being a popular target of public mistrust .
This is a paper discussing a lack of association between Autism and MMR vaccine : http : //www.immunisation.nhs.uk/Library/Research/Key \ _Research \ _Papers/50 [ immunisation.nhs.uk ] .
I could n't immediately find studies about flu vaccines , but I merely did a low-effort search of the NIH and NHS sites .
Maybe someone else can find evidence to show to people that believe the flu vaccine is more harmful than helpful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have no doubts about the overall benefit of vaccines (properly tested and controlled of course), but I don't get the impression a string of insults will help the situation.
I don't want to spend too much time searching - I found studies related to the MMR vaccine, being a popular target of public mistrust.
This is a paper discussing a lack of association between Autism and MMR vaccine: http://www.immunisation.nhs.uk/Library/Research/Key\_Research\_Papers/50 [immunisation.nhs.uk].
I couldn't immediately find studies about flu vaccines, but I merely did a low-effort search of the NIH and NHS sites.
Maybe someone else can find evidence to show to people that believe the flu vaccine is more harmful than helpful.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29825143</id>
	<title>Re:Not fear of death, it's not wanting to get sick</title>
	<author>bmimatt</author>
	<datestamp>1256148000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>I am not getting a flu shot because I could use a week on the couch wrapped in blanked, with tea and the TV on.</tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am not getting a flu shot because I could use a week on the couch wrapped in blanked , with tea and the TV on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am not getting a flu shot because I could use a week on the couch wrapped in blanked, with tea and the TV on.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29813527</id>
	<title>Re:Why I am getting the vaccine</title>
	<author>blueg3</author>
	<datestamp>1256029740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I have a friend that didn't get their kid circumsized (which is usually done in the first when the boy is only a few days old) because they wanted to leave this decision up to the child. Note that the boy has already had quite a few urinary infections due to this.</p></div><p>Then he's doing something wrong. There's no modern hygenic benefit.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a friend that did n't get their kid circumsized ( which is usually done in the first when the boy is only a few days old ) because they wanted to leave this decision up to the child .
Note that the boy has already had quite a few urinary infections due to this.Then he 's doing something wrong .
There 's no modern hygenic benefit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a friend that didn't get their kid circumsized (which is usually done in the first when the boy is only a few days old) because they wanted to leave this decision up to the child.
Note that the boy has already had quite a few urinary infections due to this.Then he's doing something wrong.
There's no modern hygenic benefit.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811067</id>
	<title>Re:43 healthy children? Or 43 total children?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256063640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Please stop scaring people. Please?"</p><p>We don't have anything better to do.<br>(where we would still look like we're working)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Please stop scaring people .
Please ? " We do n't have anything better to do .
( where we would still look like we 're working )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Please stop scaring people.
Please?"We don't have anything better to do.
(where we would still look like we're working)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811921</id>
	<title>Re:43 healthy children? Or 43 total children?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256066460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Also bear in mind that this is only about twice (possibly trending towards three times) as deadly as using school-buses:</p><p>"Approximately 27 school aged children die in school bus accidents every year."</p> </div><p>Twice as deadly?  What are you talking about?</p><p>If the flu killed 27 kids a day would you still only say that's it's only twice as deadly as an annual statistic?</p><p>We are just entering the flu seasonSchool for a few months. The number of children to be killed by this virus will definitely increase whereas the 27 you quoted will remain the same.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Also bear in mind that this is only about twice ( possibly trending towards three times ) as deadly as using school-buses : " Approximately 27 school aged children die in school bus accidents every year .
" Twice as deadly ?
What are you talking about ? If the flu killed 27 kids a day would you still only say that 's it 's only twice as deadly as an annual statistic ? We are just entering the flu seasonSchool for a few months .
The number of children to be killed by this virus will definitely increase whereas the 27 you quoted will remain the same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also bear in mind that this is only about twice (possibly trending towards three times) as deadly as using school-buses:"Approximately 27 school aged children die in school bus accidents every year.
" Twice as deadly?
What are you talking about?If the flu killed 27 kids a day would you still only say that's it's only twice as deadly as an annual statistic?We are just entering the flu seasonSchool for a few months.
The number of children to be killed by this virus will definitely increase whereas the 27 you quoted will remain the same.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29815903</id>
	<title>Re:swine flu cases grows to levels unprecedented</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256038800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not all viruses insert themselves into your DNA. For instance, influenza does not. For instance, HPV does not. Only retroviruses like HIV do.</p><p>Here are the relevant Wikipedia articles:</p><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza</p><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human\_papillomavirus</p><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV</p><p>You will note that although the first two get into your cells, at no point do they integrate into the host genome like HIV does.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not all viruses insert themselves into your DNA .
For instance , influenza does not .
For instance , HPV does not .
Only retroviruses like HIV do.Here are the relevant Wikipedia articles : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenzahttp : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human \ _papillomavirushttp : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIVYou will note that although the first two get into your cells , at no point do they integrate into the host genome like HIV does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not all viruses insert themselves into your DNA.
For instance, influenza does not.
For instance, HPV does not.
Only retroviruses like HIV do.Here are the relevant Wikipedia articles:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenzahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human\_papillomavirushttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIVYou will note that although the first two get into your cells, at no point do they integrate into the host genome like HIV does.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811673</id>
	<title>As seen in northern Mexico</title>
	<author>raluxs</author>
	<datestamp>1256065740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
In my state there have been ~2900 confirmed cases of A-H1N1 influenza, so far only ~40 confirmed deaths (And said "only" as one would think it might be worst). All adults in the 20-55 of age range. Most of them with other health issues: morbid obesity , diabetes and heavy smoking seems to be the most common.

Also at schools, they are saying that if two or more children are infected, classes will be suspended for that classroom only for a week. Not whole schools as they did in April</htmltext>
<tokenext>In my state there have been ~ 2900 confirmed cases of A-H1N1 influenza , so far only ~ 40 confirmed deaths ( And said " only " as one would think it might be worst ) .
All adults in the 20-55 of age range .
Most of them with other health issues : morbid obesity , diabetes and heavy smoking seems to be the most common .
Also at schools , they are saying that if two or more children are infected , classes will be suspended for that classroom only for a week .
Not whole schools as they did in April</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
In my state there have been ~2900 confirmed cases of A-H1N1 influenza, so far only ~40 confirmed deaths (And said "only" as one would think it might be worst).
All adults in the 20-55 of age range.
Most of them with other health issues: morbid obesity , diabetes and heavy smoking seems to be the most common.
Also at schools, they are saying that if two or more children are infected, classes will be suspended for that classroom only for a week.
Not whole schools as they did in April</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29819103</id>
	<title>Re:Not fear of death, it's not wanting to get sick</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256057460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm getting a flu shot because I don't want to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..... miss a week of work.</p><p>..... a flu shot<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... pays for itself<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... I'm not freaking<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... out about catching up on work<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</p></div><p>Gees, get a life and a new job.  Being overworked and worried about getting your work done is the problem.  You don't fix that with a vaccine buddy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm getting a flu shot because I do n't want to ..... miss a week of work...... a flu shot ... pays for itself .... I 'm not freaking ... out about catching up on work ..Gees , get a life and a new job .
Being overworked and worried about getting your work done is the problem .
You do n't fix that with a vaccine buddy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm getting a flu shot because I don't want to ..... miss a week of work...... a flu shot ... pays for itself .... I'm not freaking ... out about catching up on work ..Gees, get a life and a new job.
Being overworked and worried about getting your work done is the problem.
You don't fix that with a vaccine buddy.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812789</id>
	<title>Think of the children!</title>
	<author>RazzleDazzle</author>
	<datestamp>1256069760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Swine Flu WILL kill your children - its a disaster!<br>Nevermind the auto accidents, cancer, and homicide</p><p><a href="http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001915.htm" title="nih.gov">THE TOP THREE CAUSES OF DEATH BY AGE GROUP</a> [nih.gov]</p><p>0-1 years:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Developmental and genetic conditions that were present at birth<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * All conditions associated with prematurity and low birth weight</p><p>1-4 years:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Accidents<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Developmental and genetic conditions that were present at birth<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Cancer</p><p>5-14 years:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Accidents<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Cancer<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Homicide</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Swine Flu WILL kill your children - its a disaster ! Nevermind the auto accidents , cancer , and homicideTHE TOP THREE CAUSES OF DEATH BY AGE GROUP [ nih.gov ] 0-1 years :         * Developmental and genetic conditions that were present at birth         * Sudden infant death syndrome ( SIDS )         * All conditions associated with prematurity and low birth weight1-4 years :         * Accidents         * Developmental and genetic conditions that were present at birth         * Cancer5-14 years :         * Accidents         * Cancer         * Homicide</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Swine Flu WILL kill your children - its a disaster!Nevermind the auto accidents, cancer, and homicideTHE TOP THREE CAUSES OF DEATH BY AGE GROUP [nih.gov]0-1 years:
        * Developmental and genetic conditions that were present at birth
        * Sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS)
        * All conditions associated with prematurity and low birth weight1-4 years:
        * Accidents
        * Developmental and genetic conditions that were present at birth
        * Cancer5-14 years:
        * Accidents
        * Cancer
        * Homicide</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811549</id>
	<title>Please tag: WHO CARES</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256065320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm tired of hearing about H1N1.<br>People die from the flu ALL THE TIME.<br>I wish everyone panicking about H1N1 would die right now, so I wouldn't hear them panicking anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm tired of hearing about H1N1.People die from the flu ALL THE TIME.I wish everyone panicking about H1N1 would die right now , so I would n't hear them panicking anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm tired of hearing about H1N1.People die from the flu ALL THE TIME.I wish everyone panicking about H1N1 would die right now, so I wouldn't hear them panicking anymore.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29823767</id>
	<title>Re:Same News Cycle Every Year</title>
	<author>teknopurge</author>
	<datestamp>1256141700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or it's because they were all purchased by the 2 remaining.  Business cycles include consolidation to make room for start-ups.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or it 's because they were all purchased by the 2 remaining .
Business cycles include consolidation to make room for start-ups .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or it's because they were all purchased by the 2 remaining.
Business cycles include consolidation to make room for start-ups.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811385</id>
	<title>Something is afoot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256064720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So far, this is what I've heard about H1N1:
</p><ul>
<li>Last spring, when cases started turning up in Mexico, it was reported that H1N1 was striking young adults and bypassing the usual 'high risk' groups (children and old people).</li>
<li>Now, its killing kids (according to press releases).</li>
<li>The first batches of vaccine are being reserved for two groups, kids and health care workers. Because they are at higher risk for complications, or because they pose a higher risk of transmitting virus to others?</li>
<li>Where health care workers have traditionally partaken of the usual annual flue vaccines, they are not doing so at rates acceptable to the CDC for H1N1. A few hospitals have announced policies wherein workers who refuse the vaccine will be fired, or otherwise disciplined.</li>
<li>A few doctors are hesitant to get involved in the current vaccination program. One I heard on a radio talk show was expressing concerns about the unusual agreements he would have to sign to get involved with the distribution program. He's staying on the sidelines for now.</li>
<li>There was a suggestion that homeless people in my city (Seattle) be prioritized for the vaccine. Why? They don't make a particularly good vector for flue transmission to the general population. But, since they won't  be missed, they make great guinea pigs.</li>
</ul><p>I'm beginning to think there's something really wrong with this vaccine. And that the CDC is prioritizing stopping the spread of the virus above the health of the afflicted people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So far , this is what I 've heard about H1N1 : Last spring , when cases started turning up in Mexico , it was reported that H1N1 was striking young adults and bypassing the usual 'high risk ' groups ( children and old people ) .
Now , its killing kids ( according to press releases ) .
The first batches of vaccine are being reserved for two groups , kids and health care workers .
Because they are at higher risk for complications , or because they pose a higher risk of transmitting virus to others ?
Where health care workers have traditionally partaken of the usual annual flue vaccines , they are not doing so at rates acceptable to the CDC for H1N1 .
A few hospitals have announced policies wherein workers who refuse the vaccine will be fired , or otherwise disciplined .
A few doctors are hesitant to get involved in the current vaccination program .
One I heard on a radio talk show was expressing concerns about the unusual agreements he would have to sign to get involved with the distribution program .
He 's staying on the sidelines for now .
There was a suggestion that homeless people in my city ( Seattle ) be prioritized for the vaccine .
Why ? They do n't make a particularly good vector for flue transmission to the general population .
But , since they wo n't be missed , they make great guinea pigs .
I 'm beginning to think there 's something really wrong with this vaccine .
And that the CDC is prioritizing stopping the spread of the virus above the health of the afflicted people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So far, this is what I've heard about H1N1:

Last spring, when cases started turning up in Mexico, it was reported that H1N1 was striking young adults and bypassing the usual 'high risk' groups (children and old people).
Now, its killing kids (according to press releases).
The first batches of vaccine are being reserved for two groups, kids and health care workers.
Because they are at higher risk for complications, or because they pose a higher risk of transmitting virus to others?
Where health care workers have traditionally partaken of the usual annual flue vaccines, they are not doing so at rates acceptable to the CDC for H1N1.
A few hospitals have announced policies wherein workers who refuse the vaccine will be fired, or otherwise disciplined.
A few doctors are hesitant to get involved in the current vaccination program.
One I heard on a radio talk show was expressing concerns about the unusual agreements he would have to sign to get involved with the distribution program.
He's staying on the sidelines for now.
There was a suggestion that homeless people in my city (Seattle) be prioritized for the vaccine.
Why? They don't make a particularly good vector for flue transmission to the general population.
But, since they won't  be missed, they make great guinea pigs.
I'm beginning to think there's something really wrong with this vaccine.
And that the CDC is prioritizing stopping the spread of the virus above the health of the afflicted people.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812877</id>
	<title>Thank goodness</title>
	<author>Overzeetop</author>
	<datestamp>1256070000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>all of you are skipping this vaccine.  With the reduced quantity available this fall, this will lessen the pressure on the vaccine production and make it possible for the rest of us to get it.</p><p>In fact, once my family is vaccinated, I'd rather you all get together for a swine flu party and everyone get infected. I'd suggest long working out in cold climate areas to really get the immune system response going. And whatever you do, don't take any over the counter meds - they'll just mask the problem and won't get you better any faster. With luck, all the phlegm will pool in your lungs and your immune system will have a chance to get a real workout.</p><p>There are over 6 billion people on this earth, and we really don't need about 5.5 billion of those. H1N1 can't correct that all by itself, but a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, and with the right attitude this could be it!</p><p>You'll have to excuse me...I'm going to check with my pharmacist and see if he's gotten his shipment in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>all of you are skipping this vaccine .
With the reduced quantity available this fall , this will lessen the pressure on the vaccine production and make it possible for the rest of us to get it.In fact , once my family is vaccinated , I 'd rather you all get together for a swine flu party and everyone get infected .
I 'd suggest long working out in cold climate areas to really get the immune system response going .
And whatever you do , do n't take any over the counter meds - they 'll just mask the problem and wo n't get you better any faster .
With luck , all the phlegm will pool in your lungs and your immune system will have a chance to get a real workout.There are over 6 billion people on this earth , and we really do n't need about 5.5 billion of those .
H1N1 ca n't correct that all by itself , but a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step , and with the right attitude this could be it ! You 'll have to excuse me...I 'm going to check with my pharmacist and see if he 's gotten his shipment in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>all of you are skipping this vaccine.
With the reduced quantity available this fall, this will lessen the pressure on the vaccine production and make it possible for the rest of us to get it.In fact, once my family is vaccinated, I'd rather you all get together for a swine flu party and everyone get infected.
I'd suggest long working out in cold climate areas to really get the immune system response going.
And whatever you do, don't take any over the counter meds - they'll just mask the problem and won't get you better any faster.
With luck, all the phlegm will pool in your lungs and your immune system will have a chance to get a real workout.There are over 6 billion people on this earth, and we really don't need about 5.5 billion of those.
H1N1 can't correct that all by itself, but a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, and with the right attitude this could be it!You'll have to excuse me...I'm going to check with my pharmacist and see if he's gotten his shipment in.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29813063</id>
	<title>Risk Categories</title>
	<author>the Dragonweaver</author>
	<datestamp>1256070960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Our health provider is "limiting" the vaccine to certain risk groups. These include pregnant ladies, children under a certain age, people with asthma or other chronic airway issues, and so forth. In other words, the specific groups they want to get vaccinated for flu every year.</p><p>A few comments about this virus and why vaccination is important:</p><p>H1N1 is a combination not seen for at least thirty+ years. Therefore, much of the population has never been exposed to the "surface codes" H1 or N1, which means they don't have partial immunity. This worries medical professionals, since that increases the virulence and the spread if this flu mutates into a deadlier form. (Generally, the flu shifts a few points. This is a major antigen shift.)</p><p>Vaccines do not have a 100\% success rate. Some people's immune systems don't respond, so while they've been vaccinated, they don't have immunity and are still at risk. However, if the percentage of immunes is high enough, the particular disease never has a chance to get to those who are vulnerable. This is why anti-vaccination efforts are anti-social: your un-vaccinated kid can give my infant or elderly grandmother whooping cough or measles. (There have been a number of immune-compromised people in my family, and my parents watched family members and friends die from diseases that are now vaccine-preventable.)</p><p>Vaccines in general cover a larger number of diseases BUT have fewer "triggers" in them. For example, the original vaccine, smallpox, basically had to give you the whole disease to get your immune system going. Now we can separate out a few key proteins or antigens that are specific to the disease, rather than the hundreds that comprise it.</p><p>The upshot is, if you are in a risk category, get vaccinated. If you're not, practice good hygiene and wash your hands a lot, eat well, and get plenty of rest. And de-stress! Stressed people get sick easier.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Our health provider is " limiting " the vaccine to certain risk groups .
These include pregnant ladies , children under a certain age , people with asthma or other chronic airway issues , and so forth .
In other words , the specific groups they want to get vaccinated for flu every year.A few comments about this virus and why vaccination is important : H1N1 is a combination not seen for at least thirty + years .
Therefore , much of the population has never been exposed to the " surface codes " H1 or N1 , which means they do n't have partial immunity .
This worries medical professionals , since that increases the virulence and the spread if this flu mutates into a deadlier form .
( Generally , the flu shifts a few points .
This is a major antigen shift .
) Vaccines do not have a 100 \ % success rate .
Some people 's immune systems do n't respond , so while they 've been vaccinated , they do n't have immunity and are still at risk .
However , if the percentage of immunes is high enough , the particular disease never has a chance to get to those who are vulnerable .
This is why anti-vaccination efforts are anti-social : your un-vaccinated kid can give my infant or elderly grandmother whooping cough or measles .
( There have been a number of immune-compromised people in my family , and my parents watched family members and friends die from diseases that are now vaccine-preventable .
) Vaccines in general cover a larger number of diseases BUT have fewer " triggers " in them .
For example , the original vaccine , smallpox , basically had to give you the whole disease to get your immune system going .
Now we can separate out a few key proteins or antigens that are specific to the disease , rather than the hundreds that comprise it.The upshot is , if you are in a risk category , get vaccinated .
If you 're not , practice good hygiene and wash your hands a lot , eat well , and get plenty of rest .
And de-stress !
Stressed people get sick easier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our health provider is "limiting" the vaccine to certain risk groups.
These include pregnant ladies, children under a certain age, people with asthma or other chronic airway issues, and so forth.
In other words, the specific groups they want to get vaccinated for flu every year.A few comments about this virus and why vaccination is important:H1N1 is a combination not seen for at least thirty+ years.
Therefore, much of the population has never been exposed to the "surface codes" H1 or N1, which means they don't have partial immunity.
This worries medical professionals, since that increases the virulence and the spread if this flu mutates into a deadlier form.
(Generally, the flu shifts a few points.
This is a major antigen shift.
)Vaccines do not have a 100\% success rate.
Some people's immune systems don't respond, so while they've been vaccinated, they don't have immunity and are still at risk.
However, if the percentage of immunes is high enough, the particular disease never has a chance to get to those who are vulnerable.
This is why anti-vaccination efforts are anti-social: your un-vaccinated kid can give my infant or elderly grandmother whooping cough or measles.
(There have been a number of immune-compromised people in my family, and my parents watched family members and friends die from diseases that are now vaccine-preventable.
)Vaccines in general cover a larger number of diseases BUT have fewer "triggers" in them.
For example, the original vaccine, smallpox, basically had to give you the whole disease to get your immune system going.
Now we can separate out a few key proteins or antigens that are specific to the disease, rather than the hundreds that comprise it.The upshot is, if you are in a risk category, get vaccinated.
If you're not, practice good hygiene and wash your hands a lot, eat well, and get plenty of rest.
And de-stress!
Stressed people get sick easier.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29816471</id>
	<title>Re:And now a few facts</title>
	<author>ljw1004</author>
	<datestamp>1256042220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Those flu trends were interesting. The US, Canada, Hungary and Japan showed huge spikes this year. Every other country (France, Germany, Australia, New Zealend, Sweden,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...) showed normal activity. I wonder why?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Those flu trends were interesting .
The US , Canada , Hungary and Japan showed huge spikes this year .
Every other country ( France , Germany , Australia , New Zealend , Sweden , ... ) showed normal activity .
I wonder why ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those flu trends were interesting.
The US, Canada, Hungary and Japan showed huge spikes this year.
Every other country (France, Germany, Australia, New Zealend, Sweden, ...) showed normal activity.
I wonder why?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29822555</id>
	<title>Come on</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256135640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most of those cases are not even H1N1 related</p><p>Here in quebec they report an increase in calls for flu symptoms but NONE has been reported or even tested to be H1N1 but they treat it like it's the pandemic situation, everyone is so scared that they are making bad calls on  regular flu or even just a small cold.</p><p>People need to crank it down, there will be no pandemic, the only tru pandemic right now is the SCARE it puts into people</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of those cases are not even H1N1 relatedHere in quebec they report an increase in calls for flu symptoms but NONE has been reported or even tested to be H1N1 but they treat it like it 's the pandemic situation , everyone is so scared that they are making bad calls on regular flu or even just a small cold.People need to crank it down , there will be no pandemic , the only tru pandemic right now is the SCARE it puts into people</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of those cases are not even H1N1 relatedHere in quebec they report an increase in calls for flu symptoms but NONE has been reported or even tested to be H1N1 but they treat it like it's the pandemic situation, everyone is so scared that they are making bad calls on  regular flu or even just a small cold.People need to crank it down, there will be no pandemic, the only tru pandemic right now is the SCARE it puts into people</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29819381</id>
	<title>Re:Risk Categories</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256059620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>H1N1 is a combination not seen for at least thirty+ years. Therefore, much of the population has never been exposed to the "surface codes" H1 or N1, which means they don't have partial immunity.</p></div><p>Since we know most, if not all, the surface proteins, why can't we put them all into the vaccine?  This way, we get immunity to all strains of flu.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>H1N1 is a combination not seen for at least thirty + years .
Therefore , much of the population has never been exposed to the " surface codes " H1 or N1 , which means they do n't have partial immunity.Since we know most , if not all , the surface proteins , why ca n't we put them all into the vaccine ?
This way , we get immunity to all strains of flu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>H1N1 is a combination not seen for at least thirty+ years.
Therefore, much of the population has never been exposed to the "surface codes" H1 or N1, which means they don't have partial immunity.Since we know most, if not all, the surface proteins, why can't we put them all into the vaccine?
This way, we get immunity to all strains of flu.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812357</id>
	<title>Re:43 healthy children? Or 43 total children?</title>
	<author>beadfulthings</author>
	<datestamp>1256068080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I dunno. Of the two children who have died in my state, one had some prior health problems. The other was a young teenaged girl who had hardly had a sick day in her life and who had apparently been in excellent health before becoming ill. She died very quickly--over only a day or two--despite being hospitalized as soon as her symptoms became severe. I think that's probably what's so alarming to people in this area. I have no minor children, but if I did, I would be anxious to get them immunized. Oddly enough, I feel little or no anxiety on my own behalf.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I dunno .
Of the two children who have died in my state , one had some prior health problems .
The other was a young teenaged girl who had hardly had a sick day in her life and who had apparently been in excellent health before becoming ill. She died very quickly--over only a day or two--despite being hospitalized as soon as her symptoms became severe .
I think that 's probably what 's so alarming to people in this area .
I have no minor children , but if I did , I would be anxious to get them immunized .
Oddly enough , I feel little or no anxiety on my own behalf .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dunno.
Of the two children who have died in my state, one had some prior health problems.
The other was a young teenaged girl who had hardly had a sick day in her life and who had apparently been in excellent health before becoming ill. She died very quickly--over only a day or two--despite being hospitalized as soon as her symptoms became severe.
I think that's probably what's so alarming to people in this area.
I have no minor children, but if I did, I would be anxious to get them immunized.
Oddly enough, I feel little or no anxiety on my own behalf.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29820309</id>
	<title>Getting sick sometimes is a good sign</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256157240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Charmingly anecdotal, just like your message - my wife works in an office also "plagued" by flu outages - she hasn't picked up so much as a sniffle, her health is hardly what you'd call robust normally, and no flu shots ever. Saw a show on the TV the other night, pointing out that a 0.1\% serious secondary affects ratio means that vaccinating 20 million will create 20 THOUSAND seriously fucking sick people. This new vaccination for this new flu ? - even my "conservative" family doctor refuses to give it to her patients - it's just not proven, says she. Other vaccines, no problem. This one - go find someone else to jab you, She refuses to recommend or take responsibility for something essentially untested.</p><p>Getting sick, oddly enough, is a perfectly "healthy" thing to happen - it gives your body some time out to recover from your stupid incessant desire to run it at full side all year, regardless of season or sunlight or warmth. Every other mammal on the planet partly shuts down in winter, if not indeed hibernating outright - why is it that we stupid humans INSIST on maintaining our corporate-mandated 8-hours-per-day schedules and eating food out of season?</p><p>I don't like getting sick either, but some of my jobs, I would have preferred being really sick to going back in to that shit hole.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Charmingly anecdotal , just like your message - my wife works in an office also " plagued " by flu outages - she has n't picked up so much as a sniffle , her health is hardly what you 'd call robust normally , and no flu shots ever .
Saw a show on the TV the other night , pointing out that a 0.1 \ % serious secondary affects ratio means that vaccinating 20 million will create 20 THOUSAND seriously fucking sick people .
This new vaccination for this new flu ?
- even my " conservative " family doctor refuses to give it to her patients - it 's just not proven , says she .
Other vaccines , no problem .
This one - go find someone else to jab you , She refuses to recommend or take responsibility for something essentially untested.Getting sick , oddly enough , is a perfectly " healthy " thing to happen - it gives your body some time out to recover from your stupid incessant desire to run it at full side all year , regardless of season or sunlight or warmth .
Every other mammal on the planet partly shuts down in winter , if not indeed hibernating outright - why is it that we stupid humans INSIST on maintaining our corporate-mandated 8-hours-per-day schedules and eating food out of season ? I do n't like getting sick either , but some of my jobs , I would have preferred being really sick to going back in to that shit hole .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Charmingly anecdotal, just like your message - my wife works in an office also "plagued" by flu outages - she hasn't picked up so much as a sniffle, her health is hardly what you'd call robust normally, and no flu shots ever.
Saw a show on the TV the other night, pointing out that a 0.1\% serious secondary affects ratio means that vaccinating 20 million will create 20 THOUSAND seriously fucking sick people.
This new vaccination for this new flu ?
- even my "conservative" family doctor refuses to give it to her patients - it's just not proven, says she.
Other vaccines, no problem.
This one - go find someone else to jab you, She refuses to recommend or take responsibility for something essentially untested.Getting sick, oddly enough, is a perfectly "healthy" thing to happen - it gives your body some time out to recover from your stupid incessant desire to run it at full side all year, regardless of season or sunlight or warmth.
Every other mammal on the planet partly shuts down in winter, if not indeed hibernating outright - why is it that we stupid humans INSIST on maintaining our corporate-mandated 8-hours-per-day schedules and eating food out of season?I don't like getting sick either, but some of my jobs, I would have preferred being really sick to going back in to that shit hole.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812095</id>
	<title>You know</title>
	<author>Sycraft-fu</author>
	<datestamp>1256067060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People like you really need a tall glass of "shut the hell up." Seriously, I am getting really tired of this "OMG Fox News! OMG Republicans!!!" crap. It seems to me that some people, like, say, YOU have gotten so used to doing nothing but whining about the Evil Right Wing(tm) during Bush's terms that now it is all you can do. Rather than try to hold the people actually responsible to account, you pass it all off on to a news station.</p><p>Ok well here's the problem: The Republicans control NOTHING at the federal level any more. We have a Democrat as president, of course. We also have a sizable Democratic majority in both houses of congress. Not just a single seat, but many. In fact in the Senate, there is a supermajority, meaning that the Republicans can't filibuster legislation, the Democrats can override it.</p><p>So we have a situation now where the Republicans have fuck-all in terms of say. Yet, congress does not seem interested in passing a universal healthcare bill.</p><p>You cannot go running around, blaming this on the right wing, on fox news and so on. Sorry, but they aren't in power. The people in power are the ones that claim to support this shit. So what the hell is going on?</p><p>Seriously, it gets very annoying. This continual crying, like Fox News rules the world or something, as though they tell people what to think. No, in fact, they are just another news outlet. There are plenty of people who watch it and take what is on it as the truth. There are plenty more people who don't watch it and don't care what they say. There are plenty of people who think every single thing they say are lies.</p><p>I am going to have to refer you to a Daily Show video: <a href="http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-september-30-2009/democratic-super-majority" title="thedailyshow.com">http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-september-30-2009/democratic-super-majority</a> [thedailyshow.com]</p><p>So really, I can understand being upset with the lack of progress on public healthcare if you believe that is something we need. However you need to quite with the bullshit of trying to lay it on the Republicans and especially on Fox News. The people in power aren't Fox News watchers. It is THEIR responsibility to pass legislation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People like you really need a tall glass of " shut the hell up .
" Seriously , I am getting really tired of this " OMG Fox News !
OMG Republicans ! ! !
" crap .
It seems to me that some people , like , say , YOU have gotten so used to doing nothing but whining about the Evil Right Wing ( tm ) during Bush 's terms that now it is all you can do .
Rather than try to hold the people actually responsible to account , you pass it all off on to a news station.Ok well here 's the problem : The Republicans control NOTHING at the federal level any more .
We have a Democrat as president , of course .
We also have a sizable Democratic majority in both houses of congress .
Not just a single seat , but many .
In fact in the Senate , there is a supermajority , meaning that the Republicans ca n't filibuster legislation , the Democrats can override it.So we have a situation now where the Republicans have fuck-all in terms of say .
Yet , congress does not seem interested in passing a universal healthcare bill.You can not go running around , blaming this on the right wing , on fox news and so on .
Sorry , but they are n't in power .
The people in power are the ones that claim to support this shit .
So what the hell is going on ? Seriously , it gets very annoying .
This continual crying , like Fox News rules the world or something , as though they tell people what to think .
No , in fact , they are just another news outlet .
There are plenty of people who watch it and take what is on it as the truth .
There are plenty more people who do n't watch it and do n't care what they say .
There are plenty of people who think every single thing they say are lies.I am going to have to refer you to a Daily Show video : http : //www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-september-30-2009/democratic-super-majority [ thedailyshow.com ] So really , I can understand being upset with the lack of progress on public healthcare if you believe that is something we need .
However you need to quite with the bullshit of trying to lay it on the Republicans and especially on Fox News .
The people in power are n't Fox News watchers .
It is THEIR responsibility to pass legislation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People like you really need a tall glass of "shut the hell up.
" Seriously, I am getting really tired of this "OMG Fox News!
OMG Republicans!!!
" crap.
It seems to me that some people, like, say, YOU have gotten so used to doing nothing but whining about the Evil Right Wing(tm) during Bush's terms that now it is all you can do.
Rather than try to hold the people actually responsible to account, you pass it all off on to a news station.Ok well here's the problem: The Republicans control NOTHING at the federal level any more.
We have a Democrat as president, of course.
We also have a sizable Democratic majority in both houses of congress.
Not just a single seat, but many.
In fact in the Senate, there is a supermajority, meaning that the Republicans can't filibuster legislation, the Democrats can override it.So we have a situation now where the Republicans have fuck-all in terms of say.
Yet, congress does not seem interested in passing a universal healthcare bill.You cannot go running around, blaming this on the right wing, on fox news and so on.
Sorry, but they aren't in power.
The people in power are the ones that claim to support this shit.
So what the hell is going on?Seriously, it gets very annoying.
This continual crying, like Fox News rules the world or something, as though they tell people what to think.
No, in fact, they are just another news outlet.
There are plenty of people who watch it and take what is on it as the truth.
There are plenty more people who don't watch it and don't care what they say.
There are plenty of people who think every single thing they say are lies.I am going to have to refer you to a Daily Show video: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-september-30-2009/democratic-super-majority [thedailyshow.com]So really, I can understand being upset with the lack of progress on public healthcare if you believe that is something we need.
However you need to quite with the bullshit of trying to lay it on the Republicans and especially on Fox News.
The people in power aren't Fox News watchers.
It is THEIR responsibility to pass legislation.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29829517</id>
	<title>Re:Not fear of death, it's not wanting to get sick</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256123580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you start taking vitamin C supplements every day, you'll only get a mild cold every 5 years or so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you start taking vitamin C supplements every day , you 'll only get a mild cold every 5 years or so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you start taking vitamin C supplements every day, you'll only get a mild cold every 5 years or so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811913</id>
	<title>Re:Which nation?</title>
	<author>Neoprofin</author>
	<datestamp>1256066400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://science.slashdot.org/faq/editorial.shtml#ed850" title="slashdot.org">Certainly not the sites FAQ.</a> [slashdot.org]

"Slashdot is U.S.-centric. We readily admit this, and really don't see it as a problem."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Certainly not the sites FAQ .
[ slashdot.org ] " Slashdot is U.S.-centric .
We readily admit this , and really do n't see it as a problem .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Certainly not the sites FAQ.
[slashdot.org]

"Slashdot is U.S.-centric.
We readily admit this, and really don't see it as a problem.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812733</id>
	<title>Re:Same News Cycle Every Year</title>
	<author>plague3106</author>
	<datestamp>1256069460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hrm, interesting claim, since it seems the flu shot appeared less than a decade ago.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hrm , interesting claim , since it seems the flu shot appeared less than a decade ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hrm, interesting claim, since it seems the flu shot appeared less than a decade ago.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29814665</id>
	<title>Re:Not fear of death, it's not wanting to get sick</title>
	<author>ucblockhead</author>
	<datestamp>1256033520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another reason to get a flu shot: So you don't transmit it to someone else who then dies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another reason to get a flu shot : So you do n't transmit it to someone else who then dies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another reason to get a flu shot: So you don't transmit it to someone else who then dies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812849</id>
	<title>Re:Same News Cycle Every Year</title>
	<author>R2.0</author>
	<datestamp>1256069940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"but claiming some sort of profit motive for annual fly vaccine is, from my understanding, wildly innaccurate."</p><p>I dunno - would that be <i>Spanish</i> fly vaccine?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" but claiming some sort of profit motive for annual fly vaccine is , from my understanding , wildly innaccurate .
" I dunno - would that be Spanish fly vaccine ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"but claiming some sort of profit motive for annual fly vaccine is, from my understanding, wildly innaccurate.
"I dunno - would that be Spanish fly vaccine?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811209</id>
	<title>Re:Influenza Vaccines are Ineffective at Best</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1256064000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are a pretty clueless mother fucker, aren't you?</p><p>You might want to take your head out of your ass and learn to read studies, and look at facts. Population with out a large vaccinated  group are always hit worse then one with a large vaccinated group.</p><p>If you could find 2 brain cells bouncing around that cranium for a moment and mange to focus them on this issue for a few minutes, it would be come clear that vaccines do, in fact, work and are very safe.</p><p>Idiots like you are hurting people. Just so you know YOU not getting a vaccine  risks other people, fucktwad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are a pretty clueless mother fucker , are n't you ? You might want to take your head out of your ass and learn to read studies , and look at facts .
Population with out a large vaccinated group are always hit worse then one with a large vaccinated group.If you could find 2 brain cells bouncing around that cranium for a moment and mange to focus them on this issue for a few minutes , it would be come clear that vaccines do , in fact , work and are very safe.Idiots like you are hurting people .
Just so you know YOU not getting a vaccine risks other people , fucktwad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are a pretty clueless mother fucker, aren't you?You might want to take your head out of your ass and learn to read studies, and look at facts.
Population with out a large vaccinated  group are always hit worse then one with a large vaccinated group.If you could find 2 brain cells bouncing around that cranium for a moment and mange to focus them on this issue for a few minutes, it would be come clear that vaccines do, in fact, work and are very safe.Idiots like you are hurting people.
Just so you know YOU not getting a vaccine  risks other people, fucktwad.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29810899</id>
	<title>Re:False Statements</title>
	<author>Geraden</author>
	<datestamp>1256063100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I found that number to be way low, as well, given the number of deaths attributed to seasonal flu on a yearly basis.  However:<br> <br>

From the CDC Website:  ( <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/about/qa/0607season.htm#children" title="cdc.gov">http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/about/qa/0607season.htm#children</a> [cdc.gov]  )<br> <br>

<i>During the 2003-04 Season, 153 flu-associated deaths in children were reported to CDC.<br>
During the 2004-05 Season, 47 deaths in children were reported to CDC.<br>
During the 2005-06 Season, 46 deaths in children were reported to CDC.<br>
As of August 6, 2007, 68 deaths in children occurring during the 2006-07 season have been reported to CDC.</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>I found that number to be way low , as well , given the number of deaths attributed to seasonal flu on a yearly basis .
However : From the CDC Website : ( http : //www.cdc.gov/FLU/about/qa/0607season.htm # children [ cdc.gov ] ) During the 2003-04 Season , 153 flu-associated deaths in children were reported to CDC .
During the 2004-05 Season , 47 deaths in children were reported to CDC .
During the 2005-06 Season , 46 deaths in children were reported to CDC .
As of August 6 , 2007 , 68 deaths in children occurring during the 2006-07 season have been reported to CDC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I found that number to be way low, as well, given the number of deaths attributed to seasonal flu on a yearly basis.
However: 

From the CDC Website:  ( http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/about/qa/0607season.htm#children [cdc.gov]  ) 

During the 2003-04 Season, 153 flu-associated deaths in children were reported to CDC.
During the 2004-05 Season, 47 deaths in children were reported to CDC.
During the 2005-06 Season, 46 deaths in children were reported to CDC.
As of August 6, 2007, 68 deaths in children occurring during the 2006-07 season have been reported to CDC.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29823231</id>
	<title>Re:Good.</title>
	<author>skeeto</author>
	<datestamp>1256138940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/10/another\_thing\_that\_annoyed\_me.php" title="scienceblogs.com">Everything you put in your body contains at least some trace amounts of environmental contaminants.</a> [scienceblogs.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everything you put in your body contains at least some trace amounts of environmental contaminants .
[ scienceblogs.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everything you put in your body contains at least some trace amounts of environmental contaminants.
[scienceblogs.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29813203</id>
	<title>The Government created H1N1</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256071740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And has several other strains in the ranks waiting.</p><p>Of course you slash fagots will mod me into oblivion even if I provide enough research and sources to fill a libaray. There's no getting through to you idiots.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And has several other strains in the ranks waiting.Of course you slash fagots will mod me into oblivion even if I provide enough research and sources to fill a libaray .
There 's no getting through to you idiots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And has several other strains in the ranks waiting.Of course you slash fagots will mod me into oblivion even if I provide enough research and sources to fill a libaray.
There's no getting through to you idiots.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29813059</id>
	<title>Re:pregnant wife + fear</title>
	<author>Sj0</author>
	<datestamp>1256070900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're right! Quickly, divorce your wife and go find 30 inexpensive prostitutes, and hire no more than 15 of them!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're right !
Quickly , divorce your wife and go find 30 inexpensive prostitutes , and hire no more than 15 of them !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're right!
Quickly, divorce your wife and go find 30 inexpensive prostitutes, and hire no more than 15 of them!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29816693</id>
	<title>Re:Risk Categories</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256043300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>H1N1 is a combination not seen for at least thirty+ years.</p></div><p>What? You haven't had flu in over 30 years?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>H1N1 is a combination not seen for at least thirty + years.What ?
You have n't had flu in over 30 years ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>H1N1 is a combination not seen for at least thirty+ years.What?
You haven't had flu in over 30 years?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812295</id>
	<title>Strange</title>
	<author>ae1294</author>
	<datestamp>1256067840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't it funny how there is this big shortage when they where projecting that they would have 120 million doses but ended up only having 28 million?</p><p>That is only about 24\% of what they had expected!</p><p>Remind me again how supply and demand work?<br>Refresh my memory about how Big Pharm has our best interests in mind and not their bottom line?</p><p>O Nevermind... Go back to bed, hope you feel better tomorrow...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't it funny how there is this big shortage when they where projecting that they would have 120 million doses but ended up only having 28 million ? That is only about 24 \ % of what they had expected ! Remind me again how supply and demand work ? Refresh my memory about how Big Pharm has our best interests in mind and not their bottom line ? O Nevermind... Go back to bed , hope you feel better tomorrow.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't it funny how there is this big shortage when they where projecting that they would have 120 million doses but ended up only having 28 million?That is only about 24\% of what they had expected!Remind me again how supply and demand work?Refresh my memory about how Big Pharm has our best interests in mind and not their bottom line?O Nevermind... Go back to bed, hope you feel better tomorrow...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29810999</id>
	<title>Gotta love that Capitalism!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256063460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the government was responsible, there would probably be shortages and lines.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the government was responsible , there would probably be shortages and lines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the government was responsible, there would probably be shortages and lines.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811365</id>
	<title>Re:43 healthy children? Or 43 total children?</title>
	<author>flynt</author>
	<datestamp>1256064600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You just simply can't compare raw event numbers when estimating relative risk.  Your statement about "twice as deadly" is very likely not true, and certainly not justified from the data you reference.  You fail to take into account any sort of denominator when just using the raw events.  What if only 27 kids rode school busses each year?  What if 2 million did?  What if only 43 kids were exposed to H1N1, and they all died?  What if everyone was exposed to H1N1, and 43 died?  You need to take into account the population, not just events.  After all, every(?) child who died last year used toothpaste.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You just simply ca n't compare raw event numbers when estimating relative risk .
Your statement about " twice as deadly " is very likely not true , and certainly not justified from the data you reference .
You fail to take into account any sort of denominator when just using the raw events .
What if only 27 kids rode school busses each year ?
What if 2 million did ?
What if only 43 kids were exposed to H1N1 , and they all died ?
What if everyone was exposed to H1N1 , and 43 died ?
You need to take into account the population , not just events .
After all , every ( ?
) child who died last year used toothpaste .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You just simply can't compare raw event numbers when estimating relative risk.
Your statement about "twice as deadly" is very likely not true, and certainly not justified from the data you reference.
You fail to take into account any sort of denominator when just using the raw events.
What if only 27 kids rode school busses each year?
What if 2 million did?
What if only 43 kids were exposed to H1N1, and they all died?
What if everyone was exposed to H1N1, and 43 died?
You need to take into account the population, not just events.
After all, every(?
) child who died last year used toothpaste.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812211</id>
	<title>Re:Which nation?</title>
	<author>Dragonslicer</author>
	<datestamp>1256067480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Who was it the other week saying there wasn't an American lean to this site?</p></div><p>Someone who hasn't read <a href="http://slashdot.org/faq/editorial.shtml#ed850" title="slashdot.org">the FAQ</a> [slashdot.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who was it the other week saying there was n't an American lean to this site ? Someone who has n't read the FAQ [ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who was it the other week saying there wasn't an American lean to this site?Someone who hasn't read the FAQ [slashdot.org]
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29821053</id>
	<title>Vaccine's just dont work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256123640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And this one is no different, it's just another fear scam like the war on terrorism and the impending arrival of satan. People die all over the world every year from all types of flu, what makes this one so special?</p><p>See Bird Flu<br>SARS etc for previous scared that made Pharma BILLIONS.</p><p>Don't be a sucker and remember...the government is probably dumber than you are.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And this one is no different , it 's just another fear scam like the war on terrorism and the impending arrival of satan .
People die all over the world every year from all types of flu , what makes this one so special ? See Bird FluSARS etc for previous scared that made Pharma BILLIONS.Do n't be a sucker and remember...the government is probably dumber than you are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And this one is no different, it's just another fear scam like the war on terrorism and the impending arrival of satan.
People die all over the world every year from all types of flu, what makes this one so special?See Bird FluSARS etc for previous scared that made Pharma BILLIONS.Don't be a sucker and remember...the government is probably dumber than you are.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29810917</id>
	<title>Re:Which nation?</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1256063160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, judging from the fact that it's the New York Times reporting and there's a big stars and stripes flag next to the summary, I'd guess it's the USA.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , judging from the fact that it 's the New York Times reporting and there 's a big stars and stripes flag next to the summary , I 'd guess it 's the USA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, judging from the fact that it's the New York Times reporting and there's a big stars and stripes flag next to the summary, I'd guess it's the USA.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812339</id>
	<title>Re:Die Die Die</title>
	<author>LatencyKills</author>
	<datestamp>1256067960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Probably it's not just enough people dying that would do it, but enough of the right type of people.  Poor people, old people, people in generally poor health to begin with - not much to get excited about.  Soccer moms, cute white kids of middle class white families, perhaps two or three movie stars, a captain of industry or two - that would get some action.  15,000 people died in the US in 2007 of AIDS (source: CDC), five times the 9-11 bodycount, but it's just the fags, so no sweat.  In order for swine flu to become the driving force of healthcare reform, you'd literally need to see bodies in the streets.  Oh, wait, we saw that in New Orleans during Katrina - never mind.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably it 's not just enough people dying that would do it , but enough of the right type of people .
Poor people , old people , people in generally poor health to begin with - not much to get excited about .
Soccer moms , cute white kids of middle class white families , perhaps two or three movie stars , a captain of industry or two - that would get some action .
15,000 people died in the US in 2007 of AIDS ( source : CDC ) , five times the 9-11 bodycount , but it 's just the fags , so no sweat .
In order for swine flu to become the driving force of healthcare reform , you 'd literally need to see bodies in the streets .
Oh , wait , we saw that in New Orleans during Katrina - never mind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably it's not just enough people dying that would do it, but enough of the right type of people.
Poor people, old people, people in generally poor health to begin with - not much to get excited about.
Soccer moms, cute white kids of middle class white families, perhaps two or three movie stars, a captain of industry or two - that would get some action.
15,000 people died in the US in 2007 of AIDS (source: CDC), five times the 9-11 bodycount, but it's just the fags, so no sweat.
In order for swine flu to become the driving force of healthcare reform, you'd literally need to see bodies in the streets.
Oh, wait, we saw that in New Orleans during Katrina - never mind.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812007</id>
	<title>Re:43 healthy children? Or 43 total children?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256066700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The 1918 pandemic was certainly something that we do not wish to see repeated. However, it was deadlier than this situation on the order of millions of times more.</p></div><p>I've done some reading up on the 1918 pandemic, and the interesting thing about it is that the first pandemic that year was mild (like the swine flu).  But then it mutated and became the strain that killed millions of people.</p><p>The easiest source to get the info is Wikipedia, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918\_flu\_pandemic" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918\_flu\_pandemic</a> [wikipedia.org]:<br>"The second wave of the 1918 pandemic was much deadlier than the first."</p><p>I'm not saying the same thing is going to happen again, but you can't quite say that it's not the same thing (yet).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The 1918 pandemic was certainly something that we do not wish to see repeated .
However , it was deadlier than this situation on the order of millions of times more.I 've done some reading up on the 1918 pandemic , and the interesting thing about it is that the first pandemic that year was mild ( like the swine flu ) .
But then it mutated and became the strain that killed millions of people.The easiest source to get the info is Wikipedia , http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918 \ _flu \ _pandemic [ wikipedia.org ] : " The second wave of the 1918 pandemic was much deadlier than the first .
" I 'm not saying the same thing is going to happen again , but you ca n't quite say that it 's not the same thing ( yet ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The 1918 pandemic was certainly something that we do not wish to see repeated.
However, it was deadlier than this situation on the order of millions of times more.I've done some reading up on the 1918 pandemic, and the interesting thing about it is that the first pandemic that year was mild (like the swine flu).
But then it mutated and became the strain that killed millions of people.The easiest source to get the info is Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918\_flu\_pandemic [wikipedia.org]:"The second wave of the 1918 pandemic was much deadlier than the first.
"I'm not saying the same thing is going to happen again, but you can't quite say that it's not the same thing (yet).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811637</id>
	<title>You can have mine</title>
	<author>hoggoth</author>
	<datestamp>1256065680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here, you can have mine. I don't want it. I'm not going to get it and neither are my wife or kids.<br>We eat well, exercise, and get enough sleep and none of us has compromised immune systems. We've gotten the flu once or twice before and it wasn't a big deal. From all reports Swine Flu is no more virulent than any other flu variant.</p><p>I'm also not afraid of liquids on airplanes. And my kids are allowed to walk in town without a leash. Even if white vans have been spotted in the area.<br>I have a pocketknife, and so does my son. He may cut himself some day, but I'll live with that. He can't bring it to school, however, because he might get suspended for having a deadly weapon. He can't bring a "spork" to school either for the same reason.</p><p>Anyway, I don't think there will be as much of a shortage of Swine Flu vaccine as they predict because of all the shut-ins that are too afraid to leave their homes to actually go out and GET a Swine Flu shot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here , you can have mine .
I do n't want it .
I 'm not going to get it and neither are my wife or kids.We eat well , exercise , and get enough sleep and none of us has compromised immune systems .
We 've gotten the flu once or twice before and it was n't a big deal .
From all reports Swine Flu is no more virulent than any other flu variant.I 'm also not afraid of liquids on airplanes .
And my kids are allowed to walk in town without a leash .
Even if white vans have been spotted in the area.I have a pocketknife , and so does my son .
He may cut himself some day , but I 'll live with that .
He ca n't bring it to school , however , because he might get suspended for having a deadly weapon .
He ca n't bring a " spork " to school either for the same reason.Anyway , I do n't think there will be as much of a shortage of Swine Flu vaccine as they predict because of all the shut-ins that are too afraid to leave their homes to actually go out and GET a Swine Flu shot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here, you can have mine.
I don't want it.
I'm not going to get it and neither are my wife or kids.We eat well, exercise, and get enough sleep and none of us has compromised immune systems.
We've gotten the flu once or twice before and it wasn't a big deal.
From all reports Swine Flu is no more virulent than any other flu variant.I'm also not afraid of liquids on airplanes.
And my kids are allowed to walk in town without a leash.
Even if white vans have been spotted in the area.I have a pocketknife, and so does my son.
He may cut himself some day, but I'll live with that.
He can't bring it to school, however, because he might get suspended for having a deadly weapon.
He can't bring a "spork" to school either for the same reason.Anyway, I don't think there will be as much of a shortage of Swine Flu vaccine as they predict because of all the shut-ins that are too afraid to leave their homes to actually go out and GET a Swine Flu shot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811015</id>
	<title>Re:False Statements</title>
	<author>nedlohs</author>
	<datestamp>1256063520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your statement is blatantly false. As the most minor of checks would show you.</p><p>Children don't due from flu in the hundreds each year.</p><p>So show us your stats source, or did you just make it up because you are an uninformed idiot?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your statement is blatantly false .
As the most minor of checks would show you.Children do n't due from flu in the hundreds each year.So show us your stats source , or did you just make it up because you are an uninformed idiot ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your statement is blatantly false.
As the most minor of checks would show you.Children don't due from flu in the hundreds each year.So show us your stats source, or did you just make it up because you are an uninformed idiot?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29814713</id>
	<title>Re:Die Die Die</title>
	<author>seven of five</author>
	<datestamp>1256033760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thousands are already dying each year due to lack of insurance, or being victims of recission. The result? Most people see the need for serious change now, but town-hall meetings are choked with shrieking objectors.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thousands are already dying each year due to lack of insurance , or being victims of recission .
The result ?
Most people see the need for serious change now , but town-hall meetings are choked with shrieking objectors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thousands are already dying each year due to lack of insurance, or being victims of recission.
The result?
Most people see the need for serious change now, but town-hall meetings are choked with shrieking objectors.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29813259</id>
	<title>Never had a flu shot..</title>
	<author>kheldan</author>
	<datestamp>1256071980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>..and I'm not getting one this time, either.</htmltext>
<tokenext>..and I 'm not getting one this time , either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..and I'm not getting one this time, either.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29816139</id>
	<title>Coach Sunglass,Chanel Handbags,Ed Hardy Jacket</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256040240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>  Http://www.tntshoes.com</p><p>1) Made of superior quality upper materials<br>2) Double customs clearance for container customers<br>3) Unique design and various colors and models available<br>4) Sizes available<br>5) Available in stock for prompt shipment<br>6) Fast delivery: 3 business days<br>7)fast and safety delibery by EMS, DHL, FEDEX, and so on We sell brand shoes,clothing,bags,hats,belts,watch,sunglasses,mobile phone, and so on.For the detailed informations, please go through our products website.<br>Please do not hesitate to contact us to know more.<br>Contact name: jury</p><p>OUR WEBSITE:<br>
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<tokenext>Http : //www.tntshoes.com1 ) Made of superior quality upper materials2 ) Double customs clearance for container customers3 ) Unique design and various colors and models available4 ) Sizes available5 ) Available in stock for prompt shipment6 ) Fast delivery : 3 business days7 ) fast and safety delibery by EMS , DHL , FEDEX , and so on We sell brand shoes,clothing,bags,hats,belts,watch,sunglasses,mobile phone , and so on.For the detailed informations , please go through our products website.Please do not hesitate to contact us to know more.Contact name : juryOUR WEBSITE :                                                         YAHOO : shoppertrade @ yahoo.com.cn                                                                 MSN : shoppertrade @ hotmail.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  Http://www.tntshoes.com1) Made of superior quality upper materials2) Double customs clearance for container customers3) Unique design and various colors and models available4) Sizes available5) Available in stock for prompt shipment6) Fast delivery: 3 business days7)fast and safety delibery by EMS, DHL, FEDEX, and so on We sell brand shoes,clothing,bags,hats,belts,watch,sunglasses,mobile phone, and so on.For the detailed informations, please go through our products website.Please do not hesitate to contact us to know more.Contact name: juryOUR WEBSITE:
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29815517</id>
	<title>Re:pregnant wife + fear</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256037000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're in good company, brother!  My pregnant wife, (full term...due any day now) has been unable to get the vaccine despite being in a "high risk group".  It seems that all doses in our state have been swallowed up mostly by health care workers (who admittedly, probably need it more).  Not that we'd know what to do if it were available...for example, our OB is *not* recommending it.  In some reports, I hear "safe as any flu vaccine" in others, I hear "not thoroughly tested on pregnant women".  Then just when I start believe the risk consistent with that of seasonal flu strains, we hear reports like this one...what to believe?</p><p>Oh, and trybywrench - if this is your first - Best of luck with parenthood!  Its a wild ride, and you will feel like this is "growing up", but I guarantee you can't imagine how rewarding of an experience it will be!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're in good company , brother !
My pregnant wife , ( full term...due any day now ) has been unable to get the vaccine despite being in a " high risk group " .
It seems that all doses in our state have been swallowed up mostly by health care workers ( who admittedly , probably need it more ) .
Not that we 'd know what to do if it were available...for example , our OB is * not * recommending it .
In some reports , I hear " safe as any flu vaccine " in others , I hear " not thoroughly tested on pregnant women " .
Then just when I start believe the risk consistent with that of seasonal flu strains , we hear reports like this one...what to believe ? Oh , and trybywrench - if this is your first - Best of luck with parenthood !
Its a wild ride , and you will feel like this is " growing up " , but I guarantee you ca n't imagine how rewarding of an experience it will be !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're in good company, brother!
My pregnant wife, (full term...due any day now) has been unable to get the vaccine despite being in a "high risk group".
It seems that all doses in our state have been swallowed up mostly by health care workers (who admittedly, probably need it more).
Not that we'd know what to do if it were available...for example, our OB is *not* recommending it.
In some reports, I hear "safe as any flu vaccine" in others, I hear "not thoroughly tested on pregnant women".
Then just when I start believe the risk consistent with that of seasonal flu strains, we hear reports like this one...what to believe?Oh, and trybywrench - if this is your first - Best of luck with parenthood!
Its a wild ride, and you will feel like this is "growing up", but I guarantee you can't imagine how rewarding of an experience it will be!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811989</id>
	<title>Re:Same News Cycle Every Year</title>
	<author>TubeSteak</author>
	<datestamp>1256066700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The reason this country has gone from 20+ flu vaccine manufacturers a decade ago to 2 today is because it's so unprofitable. It's possible the companies will make a profit on it this year because of the virulence of H1N1, but claiming some sort of profit motive for annual fly vaccine is, from my understanding, wildly innaccurate.</p></div><p>It's not unprofitable, it just isn't profitable enough.<br>That's why most companies got out of the vaccine business.<br>They'd rather spend their time, money, and reputation on ventures with a higher rate of return.<br>Why slave away every year to make a few hundred million off vaccines when you can spend that money to produce a multi-billion dollar drug?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason this country has gone from 20 + flu vaccine manufacturers a decade ago to 2 today is because it 's so unprofitable .
It 's possible the companies will make a profit on it this year because of the virulence of H1N1 , but claiming some sort of profit motive for annual fly vaccine is , from my understanding , wildly innaccurate.It 's not unprofitable , it just is n't profitable enough.That 's why most companies got out of the vaccine business.They 'd rather spend their time , money , and reputation on ventures with a higher rate of return.Why slave away every year to make a few hundred million off vaccines when you can spend that money to produce a multi-billion dollar drug ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason this country has gone from 20+ flu vaccine manufacturers a decade ago to 2 today is because it's so unprofitable.
It's possible the companies will make a profit on it this year because of the virulence of H1N1, but claiming some sort of profit motive for annual fly vaccine is, from my understanding, wildly innaccurate.It's not unprofitable, it just isn't profitable enough.That's why most companies got out of the vaccine business.They'd rather spend their time, money, and reputation on ventures with a higher rate of return.Why slave away every year to make a few hundred million off vaccines when you can spend that money to produce a multi-billion dollar drug?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29819131</id>
	<title>Re:Not fear of death, it's not wanting to get sick</title>
	<author>Comp21</author>
	<datestamp>1256057580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"and not having to shell out $15 a box (and show my ID thanks to meth makers) for pills that'll make me feel slightly less miserable."

I just want to point out... it's not the meth makers that made sudafed require an ID, it's the politicians... the politicians that think that showing an ID to buy something that COULD be used for something bad somehow makes it more controlled... let's make sure we put blame where blame is due... it's the politicians that are overregulating in a misguided attempt to control our every action...</htmltext>
<tokenext>" and not having to shell out $ 15 a box ( and show my ID thanks to meth makers ) for pills that 'll make me feel slightly less miserable .
" I just want to point out... it 's not the meth makers that made sudafed require an ID , it 's the politicians... the politicians that think that showing an ID to buy something that COULD be used for something bad somehow makes it more controlled... let 's make sure we put blame where blame is due... it 's the politicians that are overregulating in a misguided attempt to control our every action.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"and not having to shell out $15 a box (and show my ID thanks to meth makers) for pills that'll make me feel slightly less miserable.
"

I just want to point out... it's not the meth makers that made sudafed require an ID, it's the politicians... the politicians that think that showing an ID to buy something that COULD be used for something bad somehow makes it more controlled... let's make sure we put blame where blame is due... it's the politicians that are overregulating in a misguided attempt to control our every action...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29810947</id>
	<title>this time of year?</title>
	<author>jDeepbeep</author>
	<datestamp>1256063280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The NY Times reports that as the number of swine flu cases grows to levels unprecedented for this time of year</p></div><p>As compared to............... say, the 1976 levels for this time of year? 1918?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The NY Times reports that as the number of swine flu cases grows to levels unprecedented for this time of yearAs compared to............... say , the 1976 levels for this time of year ?
1918 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The NY Times reports that as the number of swine flu cases grows to levels unprecedented for this time of yearAs compared to............... say, the 1976 levels for this time of year?
1918?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812493</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256068560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Doesn't it seem to be like they're trying to sell this to us like a video game console?</p><p>Kind of like "Oh it's hard to get? That means I gotta get it!"</p><p>Also black people should note CNN they always show black people getting the shot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't it seem to be like they 're trying to sell this to us like a video game console ? Kind of like " Oh it 's hard to get ?
That means I got ta get it !
" Also black people should note CNN they always show black people getting the shot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't it seem to be like they're trying to sell this to us like a video game console?Kind of like "Oh it's hard to get?
That means I gotta get it!
"Also black people should note CNN they always show black people getting the shot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29810789</id>
	<title>Do not want</title>
	<author>flghtmstr1</author>
	<datestamp>1256062740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Based on what I've heard from people who actually had the swine flu, I'd rather have the disease than the vaccine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Based on what I 've heard from people who actually had the swine flu , I 'd rather have the disease than the vaccine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Based on what I've heard from people who actually had the swine flu, I'd rather have the disease than the vaccine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811323</id>
	<title>Re:False Statements</title>
	<author>Attila Dimedici</author>
	<datestamp>1256064480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>"Forty-three children have died from swine flu since August 30 &mdash; about the same number that usually die in an entire flu season."</i> </p><p>That statement is blatantly false.  Over 35,000 people die in the US from the flu every year.  Hundreds, if not thousands, of children die from the flu every year.</p></div><p>What did you expect, this article is in the NYT?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Forty-three children have died from swine flu since August 30    about the same number that usually die in an entire flu season .
" That statement is blatantly false .
Over 35,000 people die in the US from the flu every year .
Hundreds , if not thousands , of children die from the flu every year.What did you expect , this article is in the NYT ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "Forty-three children have died from swine flu since August 30 — about the same number that usually die in an entire flu season.
" That statement is blatantly false.
Over 35,000 people die in the US from the flu every year.
Hundreds, if not thousands, of children die from the flu every year.What did you expect, this article is in the NYT?
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	<title>Re:Something is afoot</title>
	<author>BobMcD</author>
	<datestamp>1256066100000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Personally, I think this good old fashioned greed, and nothing specific about this particular vaccine.</p><p>The sequence that I feel is most likely the real cause for this 'crisis' is:</p><p>1) Obama announced health care reform.  Pharma was against it.</p><p>2) Pharma came to the whitehouse, discussed 'something'.  Whitehouse attempted to conceal the fact that they even were there.</p><p>3) Pharma started hiring and busing in supporters to town hall meetings.</p><p>4) Government started applying vaccination pressure.</p><p>My suspicion is, the Administration simply said, "Why are you worrying about this reform thing when you should be making flu vaccines?"</p><p>Since they're all stop-lossed by the government, subsidies are in play, etc, a push from the CDC would be more than enough to 'buy' support for reform, would it not?</p><p>If someone has facts that can refute this suspicion, I'm totally open to them.  I'm only looking at this angle because it makes sense.  Unlike the seemingly random logic of the CDC and the vaccination efforts as a whole.</p><p>If I'm right, you would also start seeing more vaccination pressure outside of flu.  HPV, perhaps.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally , I think this good old fashioned greed , and nothing specific about this particular vaccine.The sequence that I feel is most likely the real cause for this 'crisis ' is : 1 ) Obama announced health care reform .
Pharma was against it.2 ) Pharma came to the whitehouse , discussed 'something' .
Whitehouse attempted to conceal the fact that they even were there.3 ) Pharma started hiring and busing in supporters to town hall meetings.4 ) Government started applying vaccination pressure.My suspicion is , the Administration simply said , " Why are you worrying about this reform thing when you should be making flu vaccines ?
" Since they 're all stop-lossed by the government , subsidies are in play , etc , a push from the CDC would be more than enough to 'buy ' support for reform , would it not ? If someone has facts that can refute this suspicion , I 'm totally open to them .
I 'm only looking at this angle because it makes sense .
Unlike the seemingly random logic of the CDC and the vaccination efforts as a whole.If I 'm right , you would also start seeing more vaccination pressure outside of flu .
HPV , perhaps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally, I think this good old fashioned greed, and nothing specific about this particular vaccine.The sequence that I feel is most likely the real cause for this 'crisis' is:1) Obama announced health care reform.
Pharma was against it.2) Pharma came to the whitehouse, discussed 'something'.
Whitehouse attempted to conceal the fact that they even were there.3) Pharma started hiring and busing in supporters to town hall meetings.4) Government started applying vaccination pressure.My suspicion is, the Administration simply said, "Why are you worrying about this reform thing when you should be making flu vaccines?
"Since they're all stop-lossed by the government, subsidies are in play, etc, a push from the CDC would be more than enough to 'buy' support for reform, would it not?If someone has facts that can refute this suspicion, I'm totally open to them.
I'm only looking at this angle because it makes sense.
Unlike the seemingly random logic of the CDC and the vaccination efforts as a whole.If I'm right, you would also start seeing more vaccination pressure outside of flu.
HPV, perhaps.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29812105</id>
	<title>Re:43 healthy children? Or 43 total children?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256067060000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>oh please, the 1918 pandemic? that was nothing, what about the dark ages, two thirds of Europe's population walked the path of the dinosaurs because of the plague. People back then didn't have the knowledge or the means to protect themselves, today we do, but people keep on dying, regardless<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. why is that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>oh please , the 1918 pandemic ?
that was nothing , what about the dark ages , two thirds of Europe 's population walked the path of the dinosaurs because of the plague .
People back then did n't have the knowledge or the means to protect themselves , today we do , but people keep on dying , regardless .. why is that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>oh please, the 1918 pandemic?
that was nothing, what about the dark ages, two thirds of Europe's population walked the path of the dinosaurs because of the plague.
People back then didn't have the knowledge or the means to protect themselves, today we do, but people keep on dying, regardless .. why is that?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Remember to keep the faith</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256049060000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Until you realize after you have taken the vaccine that perhaps it wasn't good for you afterall.</p><p>Did you know they have linked Gulf War Syndrome to vaccines proven by some soldiers suffering from GWS even though they never deployed?</p><p>Go google and open your mind to new information. Someone doesn't want you healthy and they are willing to use a massive global-scale propaganda campaign to convince you that you need it and have something to be scared of.</p><p>Try: http://www.theflucase.com</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Until you realize after you have taken the vaccine that perhaps it was n't good for you afterall.Did you know they have linked Gulf War Syndrome to vaccines proven by some soldiers suffering from GWS even though they never deployed ? Go google and open your mind to new information .
Someone does n't want you healthy and they are willing to use a massive global-scale propaganda campaign to convince you that you need it and have something to be scared of.Try : http : //www.theflucase.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Until you realize after you have taken the vaccine that perhaps it wasn't good for you afterall.Did you know they have linked Gulf War Syndrome to vaccines proven by some soldiers suffering from GWS even though they never deployed?Go google and open your mind to new information.
Someone doesn't want you healthy and they are willing to use a massive global-scale propaganda campaign to convince you that you need it and have something to be scared of.Try: http://www.theflucase.com</sentencetext>
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	<title>And now a few facts</title>
	<author>overshoot</author>
	<datestamp>1256067780000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>I've been following the public health debate over this, and having known people with the swine flu, I have to say it is mostly hype. Mostly.</i></p></div> </blockquote><p>

<a href="http://www.google.org/flutrends/intl/en\_us/us/" title="google.org">Google Flu Trends.</a> [google.org]  The season is just starting.  Have a look at how it matches to the last several years at their peaks.</p><blockquote><div><p> <i>The true efficacy of the vaccine is not known, because they will not do placebo-controlled trials.</i></p></div> </blockquote><p>

It's an influenza vaccine.  The only difference between it and any seasonal one is the virus it's made with; all the rest are the same process (grown in eggs, filtered, yada yada yada.)  If we waited for full-up trials every season, by the time the vaccine was available we'd be in the next season and the strains in circulation would be different anyway.</p><p>

HOWEVER!  We have done clinical tests with the vaccine, the only way that we can in such short time frame: we injected it into volunteers and measured the antibody response, then compared that to the response from previous seasons where we have after-the-fact data to go by.  We've been building that data collection for decades now, and it's pretty flipping good.</p><p>

As with anything in real time, if you wait for perfect data you might as well not bother.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I 've been following the public health debate over this , and having known people with the swine flu , I have to say it is mostly hype .
Mostly . Google Flu Trends .
[ google.org ] The season is just starting .
Have a look at how it matches to the last several years at their peaks .
The true efficacy of the vaccine is not known , because they will not do placebo-controlled trials .
It 's an influenza vaccine .
The only difference between it and any seasonal one is the virus it 's made with ; all the rest are the same process ( grown in eggs , filtered , yada yada yada .
) If we waited for full-up trials every season , by the time the vaccine was available we 'd be in the next season and the strains in circulation would be different anyway .
HOWEVER ! We have done clinical tests with the vaccine , the only way that we can in such short time frame : we injected it into volunteers and measured the antibody response , then compared that to the response from previous seasons where we have after-the-fact data to go by .
We 've been building that data collection for decades now , and it 's pretty flipping good .
As with anything in real time , if you wait for perfect data you might as well not bother .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I've been following the public health debate over this, and having known people with the swine flu, I have to say it is mostly hype.
Mostly. 

Google Flu Trends.
[google.org]  The season is just starting.
Have a look at how it matches to the last several years at their peaks.
The true efficacy of the vaccine is not known, because they will not do placebo-controlled trials.
It's an influenza vaccine.
The only difference between it and any seasonal one is the virus it's made with; all the rest are the same process (grown in eggs, filtered, yada yada yada.
)  If we waited for full-up trials every season, by the time the vaccine was available we'd be in the next season and the strains in circulation would be different anyway.
HOWEVER!  We have done clinical tests with the vaccine, the only way that we can in such short time frame: we injected it into volunteers and measured the antibody response, then compared that to the response from previous seasons where we have after-the-fact data to go by.
We've been building that data collection for decades now, and it's pretty flipping good.
As with anything in real time, if you wait for perfect data you might as well not bother.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_20_1657217.29811563</id>
	<title>swine flu cases grows to levels unprecedented</title>
	<author>scorp1us</author>
	<datestamp>1256065380000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Isn't this the first year? So by definition, any activity is unprecedented.</p><p>I've been following the public health debate over this, and having known people with the swine flu, I have to say it is mostly hype. Mostly.</p><p>The true efficacy of the vaccine is not known, because they will not do placebo-controlled trials. They cite "ethics" for this, however they can do placebo-controlled HIV vaccination tests. In the grand scheme of things, I think the ethics justify placebo-controlled Flu trials far more than HIV placebo-controlled trials. Now the HIV trials were done in Thailand, but still, a life is a life, and ethics shouldn't be regional.</p><p>So the only thing I can conclude is that the drug companies are hiding behind the "ethics" because they know vaccines are ineffective. Until we know exactly how [in]effective they are, they hide behind the line "any measure of protection is better than no protection".</p><p>We must demand that our flu vaccines are placebo controlled.</p><p>Also, I think the actual vaccine is safe. However I am beginning to research the theory that multiple viral infections have a layering effect. That would explain why some regions have greatly different HIV infection rates - that if a particular virus was local to a population then that virus can make the host more susceptible to infection. (Small midwest towns will have vastly different HIV infection rates, as does the epidemic in Africa) Also, viruses are known to cause cancer - HPV has overtaken tobacco as the leading cause of throat cancer (from oral sex). So these immunizations have the potential to alter your susceptibility for other viruses and cancers unless you get the kind that uses completely dead organisms. Remember all viruses insert themselves into your DNA. Much like a code injection attack, there may be repercussions in that inserted code that may make you susceptible to other attacks.  However the science on this is still in a nascent stage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't this the first year ?
So by definition , any activity is unprecedented.I 've been following the public health debate over this , and having known people with the swine flu , I have to say it is mostly hype .
Mostly.The true efficacy of the vaccine is not known , because they will not do placebo-controlled trials .
They cite " ethics " for this , however they can do placebo-controlled HIV vaccination tests .
In the grand scheme of things , I think the ethics justify placebo-controlled Flu trials far more than HIV placebo-controlled trials .
Now the HIV trials were done in Thailand , but still , a life is a life , and ethics should n't be regional.So the only thing I can conclude is that the drug companies are hiding behind the " ethics " because they know vaccines are ineffective .
Until we know exactly how [ in ] effective they are , they hide behind the line " any measure of protection is better than no protection " .We must demand that our flu vaccines are placebo controlled.Also , I think the actual vaccine is safe .
However I am beginning to research the theory that multiple viral infections have a layering effect .
That would explain why some regions have greatly different HIV infection rates - that if a particular virus was local to a population then that virus can make the host more susceptible to infection .
( Small midwest towns will have vastly different HIV infection rates , as does the epidemic in Africa ) Also , viruses are known to cause cancer - HPV has overtaken tobacco as the leading cause of throat cancer ( from oral sex ) .
So these immunizations have the potential to alter your susceptibility for other viruses and cancers unless you get the kind that uses completely dead organisms .
Remember all viruses insert themselves into your DNA .
Much like a code injection attack , there may be repercussions in that inserted code that may make you susceptible to other attacks .
However the science on this is still in a nascent stage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't this the first year?
So by definition, any activity is unprecedented.I've been following the public health debate over this, and having known people with the swine flu, I have to say it is mostly hype.
Mostly.The true efficacy of the vaccine is not known, because they will not do placebo-controlled trials.
They cite "ethics" for this, however they can do placebo-controlled HIV vaccination tests.
In the grand scheme of things, I think the ethics justify placebo-controlled Flu trials far more than HIV placebo-controlled trials.
Now the HIV trials were done in Thailand, but still, a life is a life, and ethics shouldn't be regional.So the only thing I can conclude is that the drug companies are hiding behind the "ethics" because they know vaccines are ineffective.
Until we know exactly how [in]effective they are, they hide behind the line "any measure of protection is better than no protection".We must demand that our flu vaccines are placebo controlled.Also, I think the actual vaccine is safe.
However I am beginning to research the theory that multiple viral infections have a layering effect.
That would explain why some regions have greatly different HIV infection rates - that if a particular virus was local to a population then that virus can make the host more susceptible to infection.
(Small midwest towns will have vastly different HIV infection rates, as does the epidemic in Africa) Also, viruses are known to cause cancer - HPV has overtaken tobacco as the leading cause of throat cancer (from oral sex).
So these immunizations have the potential to alter your susceptibility for other viruses and cancers unless you get the kind that uses completely dead organisms.
Remember all viruses insert themselves into your DNA.
Much like a code injection attack, there may be repercussions in that inserted code that may make you susceptible to other attacks.
However the science on this is still in a nascent stage.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Not fear of death, it's not wanting to get sick</title>
	<author>domenic v1.0</author>
	<datestamp>1256034060000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I never took flu shots my whole life. I would get the occasional cold or flu, but nothing severe lasting more than 3 days or so that bed rest and lots of fluids and chicken noodle soup couldn't take care of.</p><p>One time, 5 years ago I came down with Pneumonia, and that was by far the sickest I have ever been in my life, and the most physically exhausting pain i have had to endure for a week and a half straight. My doctors didn't diagnose it correctly until after my temperature hovered for 103 degrees for two straight days. I almost could feel myself passing out from my body heat. It was horrible. They gave me the correct antibiotics and my temperature dropped within 24 hours.</p><p>5 years since then i have not had any seasonal flu/sickness and still refused to take flu shots. I see no need to since i don't see a large risk of becoming very sick and missing out on work or dishing out money on OTC/prescription meds unless necessary. I'd rather let my body get exposed to it if it happens and deal with it as it comes. I am fairly healthy and always up and moving at work so I get tons of exercise throughout the day without even trying.  FYI, I am an IT Director, and yes I am at peoples desks every day, touching keyboards, laptops, monitors, etc. I am never the one getting sick in both of the building complexes I manage. I'm always washing my hands before eating and often throughout the day. Its always the sales/accounting/marketing departments where people end up going missing for days because they are at home sick with the flu; the same people that were the ones that jumped on the chance to get the company sponsored flu shots; and also the same people sitting all day at their desks eating donuts for breakfast and only getting up out of their cubicle to refill their coffee cups. See the relation...?</p><p>I also don't trust pharmas that <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080105140107.htm" title="sciencedaily.com">spend more money every year</a> [sciencedaily.com] on <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/02/business/02drug.html" title="nytimes.com">Marketing</a> [nytimes.com] then they do on <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-weissman/pharmaceutical-payola\_b\_102160.html" title="huffingtonpost.com">R&amp;D</a> [huffingtonpost.com], and I sure as hell won't trust them to stick a needle full of a product they produced for the sole purpose of capitalizing on this "pandemic" and inject it into my body. I'll take my chances...and so far for 27 years, I've been doing pretty good without their annual "miracle" shots.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I never took flu shots my whole life .
I would get the occasional cold or flu , but nothing severe lasting more than 3 days or so that bed rest and lots of fluids and chicken noodle soup could n't take care of.One time , 5 years ago I came down with Pneumonia , and that was by far the sickest I have ever been in my life , and the most physically exhausting pain i have had to endure for a week and a half straight .
My doctors did n't diagnose it correctly until after my temperature hovered for 103 degrees for two straight days .
I almost could feel myself passing out from my body heat .
It was horrible .
They gave me the correct antibiotics and my temperature dropped within 24 hours.5 years since then i have not had any seasonal flu/sickness and still refused to take flu shots .
I see no need to since i do n't see a large risk of becoming very sick and missing out on work or dishing out money on OTC/prescription meds unless necessary .
I 'd rather let my body get exposed to it if it happens and deal with it as it comes .
I am fairly healthy and always up and moving at work so I get tons of exercise throughout the day without even trying .
FYI , I am an IT Director , and yes I am at peoples desks every day , touching keyboards , laptops , monitors , etc .
I am never the one getting sick in both of the building complexes I manage .
I 'm always washing my hands before eating and often throughout the day .
Its always the sales/accounting/marketing departments where people end up going missing for days because they are at home sick with the flu ; the same people that were the ones that jumped on the chance to get the company sponsored flu shots ; and also the same people sitting all day at their desks eating donuts for breakfast and only getting up out of their cubicle to refill their coffee cups .
See the relation... ? I also do n't trust pharmas that spend more money every year [ sciencedaily.com ] on Marketing [ nytimes.com ] then they do on R&amp;D [ huffingtonpost.com ] , and I sure as hell wo n't trust them to stick a needle full of a product they produced for the sole purpose of capitalizing on this " pandemic " and inject it into my body .
I 'll take my chances...and so far for 27 years , I 've been doing pretty good without their annual " miracle " shots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I never took flu shots my whole life.
I would get the occasional cold or flu, but nothing severe lasting more than 3 days or so that bed rest and lots of fluids and chicken noodle soup couldn't take care of.One time, 5 years ago I came down with Pneumonia, and that was by far the sickest I have ever been in my life, and the most physically exhausting pain i have had to endure for a week and a half straight.
My doctors didn't diagnose it correctly until after my temperature hovered for 103 degrees for two straight days.
I almost could feel myself passing out from my body heat.
It was horrible.
They gave me the correct antibiotics and my temperature dropped within 24 hours.5 years since then i have not had any seasonal flu/sickness and still refused to take flu shots.
I see no need to since i don't see a large risk of becoming very sick and missing out on work or dishing out money on OTC/prescription meds unless necessary.
I'd rather let my body get exposed to it if it happens and deal with it as it comes.
I am fairly healthy and always up and moving at work so I get tons of exercise throughout the day without even trying.
FYI, I am an IT Director, and yes I am at peoples desks every day, touching keyboards, laptops, monitors, etc.
I am never the one getting sick in both of the building complexes I manage.
I'm always washing my hands before eating and often throughout the day.
Its always the sales/accounting/marketing departments where people end up going missing for days because they are at home sick with the flu; the same people that were the ones that jumped on the chance to get the company sponsored flu shots; and also the same people sitting all day at their desks eating donuts for breakfast and only getting up out of their cubicle to refill their coffee cups.
See the relation...?I also don't trust pharmas that spend more money every year [sciencedaily.com] on Marketing [nytimes.com] then they do on R&amp;D [huffingtonpost.com], and I sure as hell won't trust them to stick a needle full of a product they produced for the sole purpose of capitalizing on this "pandemic" and inject it into my body.
I'll take my chances...and so far for 27 years, I've been doing pretty good without their annual "miracle" shots.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Same News Cycle Every Year</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1256067180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>It's different this year--I spent last week coughing my lungs out and listening to the radio, and the big significant difference I noticed this year was the number of deaths of (previously healthy) children and teenagers reported in the news climbed daily.  In a normal flu season, they report deaths of a handful of sickly elderly persons.</p><p>From personal experience and other anecdotal items from friends of mine who've had it, it's worse: a high fever (104F) sets on early and for a longer time; after that the risk of a follow-on sinus or other respiratory infection remains high for days, although for me this combined with a giddy cheerfulness (perhaps brought on by surviving the high fever).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's different this year--I spent last week coughing my lungs out and listening to the radio , and the big significant difference I noticed this year was the number of deaths of ( previously healthy ) children and teenagers reported in the news climbed daily .
In a normal flu season , they report deaths of a handful of sickly elderly persons.From personal experience and other anecdotal items from friends of mine who 've had it , it 's worse : a high fever ( 104F ) sets on early and for a longer time ; after that the risk of a follow-on sinus or other respiratory infection remains high for days , although for me this combined with a giddy cheerfulness ( perhaps brought on by surviving the high fever ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's different this year--I spent last week coughing my lungs out and listening to the radio, and the big significant difference I noticed this year was the number of deaths of (previously healthy) children and teenagers reported in the news climbed daily.
In a normal flu season, they report deaths of a handful of sickly elderly persons.From personal experience and other anecdotal items from friends of mine who've had it, it's worse: a high fever (104F) sets on early and for a longer time; after that the risk of a follow-on sinus or other respiratory infection remains high for days, although for me this combined with a giddy cheerfulness (perhaps brought on by surviving the high fever).</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:43 healthy children? Or 43 total children?</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1256063760000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Look at the distribution of deaths.  Most flu deaths occur during the winter, when people generally have weaker immune systems and spend more time crowded together indoors making transmission easier.  Lots of people have been claiming that the mortality rate for swine flu is lower than for other seasonal flus, but they have been comparing swine flu statistics in the middle of the summer to other flu statistics from the winter.  If you look at the <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/" title="cdc.gov">weekly reports of flu deaths over the last few years from the CDC</a> [cdc.gov], you will see no children dying in the summer, and up to around 12 dying a week in the middle of the winter, with around one a week over the milder parts of winter.  Compare that with this year, and you see a spike of 3-8 per week in a period that has had zero for the previous three years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look at the distribution of deaths .
Most flu deaths occur during the winter , when people generally have weaker immune systems and spend more time crowded together indoors making transmission easier .
Lots of people have been claiming that the mortality rate for swine flu is lower than for other seasonal flus , but they have been comparing swine flu statistics in the middle of the summer to other flu statistics from the winter .
If you look at the weekly reports of flu deaths over the last few years from the CDC [ cdc.gov ] , you will see no children dying in the summer , and up to around 12 dying a week in the middle of the winter , with around one a week over the milder parts of winter .
Compare that with this year , and you see a spike of 3-8 per week in a period that has had zero for the previous three years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look at the distribution of deaths.
Most flu deaths occur during the winter, when people generally have weaker immune systems and spend more time crowded together indoors making transmission easier.
Lots of people have been claiming that the mortality rate for swine flu is lower than for other seasonal flus, but they have been comparing swine flu statistics in the middle of the summer to other flu statistics from the winter.
If you look at the weekly reports of flu deaths over the last few years from the CDC [cdc.gov], you will see no children dying in the summer, and up to around 12 dying a week in the middle of the winter, with around one a week over the milder parts of winter.
Compare that with this year, and you see a spike of 3-8 per week in a period that has had zero for the previous three years.</sentencetext>
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