<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_10_14_2015232</id>
	<title>Road To Riches Doesn't Run Through the App Store</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1255510020000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Etienne Steward writes <i>"Turns out that while a few fortunes can be made with Apple, <a href="http://developer.apple.com/profiles/#demiforce-large">Steve Demeter</a> made most of his money by buying Palm (of all companies) at $1.76 and selling at $12. Apparently, there aren't as many iPhone App millionaires as we would like to be believe. From the article: 'In almost a dozen interviews conducted by NEWSWEEK, Apple consultants and programmers <a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/216788/output/print">jettison the idea that the App Store is a world of easy opportunity</a>, or a fast track to quitting the rat race. Instead they describe an anxiety-wracked marketplace full of bewildering rules, long odds, and little sense of control over one's success or failure. "It's kind of a crapshoot," says Demeter, who spent the last two weekends partying in Las Vegas and New York. "I think we've reached a point where people are thinking I shouldn't quit my day job for this."'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Etienne Steward writes " Turns out that while a few fortunes can be made with Apple , Steve Demeter made most of his money by buying Palm ( of all companies ) at $ 1.76 and selling at $ 12 .
Apparently , there are n't as many iPhone App millionaires as we would like to be believe .
From the article : 'In almost a dozen interviews conducted by NEWSWEEK , Apple consultants and programmers jettison the idea that the App Store is a world of easy opportunity , or a fast track to quitting the rat race .
Instead they describe an anxiety-wracked marketplace full of bewildering rules , long odds , and little sense of control over one 's success or failure .
" It 's kind of a crapshoot , " says Demeter , who spent the last two weekends partying in Las Vegas and New York .
" I think we 've reached a point where people are thinking I should n't quit my day job for this .
" ' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Etienne Steward writes "Turns out that while a few fortunes can be made with Apple, Steve Demeter made most of his money by buying Palm (of all companies) at $1.76 and selling at $12.
Apparently, there aren't as many iPhone App millionaires as we would like to be believe.
From the article: 'In almost a dozen interviews conducted by NEWSWEEK, Apple consultants and programmers jettison the idea that the App Store is a world of easy opportunity, or a fast track to quitting the rat race.
Instead they describe an anxiety-wracked marketplace full of bewildering rules, long odds, and little sense of control over one's success or failure.
"It's kind of a crapshoot," says Demeter, who spent the last two weekends partying in Las Vegas and New York.
"I think we've reached a point where people are thinking I shouldn't quit my day job for this.
"'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751559</id>
	<title>Re:Perhaps</title>
	<author>ciaohound</author>
	<datestamp>1255524960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>as much as I dislike the concept of "partying"</p></div></blockquote><p>  As much as I occasionally feel like slashdot sucks or isn't what it used to be, when I see a post like this one, I fondly remember why I spend so many hours reading here.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>as much as I dislike the concept of " partying " As much as I occasionally feel like slashdot sucks or is n't what it used to be , when I see a post like this one , I fondly remember why I spend so many hours reading here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as much as I dislike the concept of "partying"  As much as I occasionally feel like slashdot sucks or isn't what it used to be, when I see a post like this one, I fondly remember why I spend so many hours reading here.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749973</id>
	<title>iPhone devs learn a lesson from musicians</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255514640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And the lesson is, "just because you have a distribution network with the potential to reach millions of users, you'll still probably sell fuckall."</p><p>Welcome to the real world, iPhone devs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And the lesson is , " just because you have a distribution network with the potential to reach millions of users , you 'll still probably sell fuckall .
" Welcome to the real world , iPhone devs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And the lesson is, "just because you have a distribution network with the potential to reach millions of users, you'll still probably sell fuckall.
"Welcome to the real world, iPhone devs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29759007</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255628640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can you flip a coin 30 heads in a row? No? Consider everyone on the planet competing in a "coin toss tournament", and guess what, eventually you'll get a "winner", and in order to win against everyone on the planet, that person would've flipped the coin 30 times in row (or more).</p><p>They're the winner. Does it mean they weren't "lucky" to win? Does it mean everyone else are suckers who lost? Does it imply anything about the winner's ability to win such tournaments? (or even the next throw?).</p><p>Most business folks are the same way. They're in competition. There has to be a winner. But just 'cause someone is a winner doesn't mean the outcome wasn't pure chance, or that they'd succeed again if situation was repeated (heck, for all you know, they'd get hit by a bus if life were to replay again).</p><p>BillG is a smart dude (I even read one of his books). But superhuman he's not. He's just an average dude who was in the right place at the right time, and enough sense to not make major blunders. It could've been anyone else---someone has to win the tournament.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you flip a coin 30 heads in a row ?
No ? Consider everyone on the planet competing in a " coin toss tournament " , and guess what , eventually you 'll get a " winner " , and in order to win against everyone on the planet , that person would 've flipped the coin 30 times in row ( or more ) .They 're the winner .
Does it mean they were n't " lucky " to win ?
Does it mean everyone else are suckers who lost ?
Does it imply anything about the winner 's ability to win such tournaments ?
( or even the next throw ?
) .Most business folks are the same way .
They 're in competition .
There has to be a winner .
But just 'cause someone is a winner does n't mean the outcome was n't pure chance , or that they 'd succeed again if situation was repeated ( heck , for all you know , they 'd get hit by a bus if life were to replay again ) .BillG is a smart dude ( I even read one of his books ) .
But superhuman he 's not .
He 's just an average dude who was in the right place at the right time , and enough sense to not make major blunders .
It could 've been anyone else---someone has to win the tournament .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you flip a coin 30 heads in a row?
No? Consider everyone on the planet competing in a "coin toss tournament", and guess what, eventually you'll get a "winner", and in order to win against everyone on the planet, that person would've flipped the coin 30 times in row (or more).They're the winner.
Does it mean they weren't "lucky" to win?
Does it mean everyone else are suckers who lost?
Does it imply anything about the winner's ability to win such tournaments?
(or even the next throw?
).Most business folks are the same way.
They're in competition.
There has to be a winner.
But just 'cause someone is a winner doesn't mean the outcome wasn't pure chance, or that they'd succeed again if situation was repeated (heck, for all you know, they'd get hit by a bus if life were to replay again).BillG is a smart dude (I even read one of his books).
But superhuman he's not.
He's just an average dude who was in the right place at the right time, and enough sense to not make major blunders.
It could've been anyone else---someone has to win the tournament.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751581</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Red Flayer</author>
	<datestamp>1255525200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>These weren't great or particularly cutthroat men, but instead lucky men.</p></div></blockquote><p>I disagree 100\%.  I'm not as familiar with Rockefeller as I am with Carnegie, but Carnegie's business savvy, work ethic, and disregard for others were the three things that enabled him to become extremely wealthy (I assume you mean Andrew).  See the Frick incident in Braddock PA (Carnegie's man Frick had armed guards bust a strike that was in protest of a wage reduction.  12 were killed in the process). See also the issue of pollution in Pittsburgh and Carnegie's acknowledgment and dismissal of the health problems caused by it. <br> <br>What separates men like Carnegie from others who you might refer to as "unlucky" is that Carnegie took a hard line, and stuck to it, damage to others be damned.  <br> <br>As for Rockefeller, I think you're way off base there, too.  Ida Tarbell's "The History of the Standard Oil Company" would be a good read for you.  Of course, after that was published, Rockefeller engaged in a "Public Relations" effort to unsully his name -- no really -- the man Rockefeller hired to do it coined the phrase we all know and love.<br> <br>What separates men like Rockefeller and Carnegie from the less-successful tycoons is indefatigable attention to money, and indefatigable disconcern with the plight of those they needed to trample over in order to amass their wealth.  Luck played very little part.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>These were n't great or particularly cutthroat men , but instead lucky men.I disagree 100 \ % .
I 'm not as familiar with Rockefeller as I am with Carnegie , but Carnegie 's business savvy , work ethic , and disregard for others were the three things that enabled him to become extremely wealthy ( I assume you mean Andrew ) .
See the Frick incident in Braddock PA ( Carnegie 's man Frick had armed guards bust a strike that was in protest of a wage reduction .
12 were killed in the process ) .
See also the issue of pollution in Pittsburgh and Carnegie 's acknowledgment and dismissal of the health problems caused by it .
What separates men like Carnegie from others who you might refer to as " unlucky " is that Carnegie took a hard line , and stuck to it , damage to others be damned .
As for Rockefeller , I think you 're way off base there , too .
Ida Tarbell 's " The History of the Standard Oil Company " would be a good read for you .
Of course , after that was published , Rockefeller engaged in a " Public Relations " effort to unsully his name -- no really -- the man Rockefeller hired to do it coined the phrase we all know and love .
What separates men like Rockefeller and Carnegie from the less-successful tycoons is indefatigable attention to money , and indefatigable disconcern with the plight of those they needed to trample over in order to amass their wealth .
Luck played very little part .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These weren't great or particularly cutthroat men, but instead lucky men.I disagree 100\%.
I'm not as familiar with Rockefeller as I am with Carnegie, but Carnegie's business savvy, work ethic, and disregard for others were the three things that enabled him to become extremely wealthy (I assume you mean Andrew).
See the Frick incident in Braddock PA (Carnegie's man Frick had armed guards bust a strike that was in protest of a wage reduction.
12 were killed in the process).
See also the issue of pollution in Pittsburgh and Carnegie's acknowledgment and dismissal of the health problems caused by it.
What separates men like Carnegie from others who you might refer to as "unlucky" is that Carnegie took a hard line, and stuck to it, damage to others be damned.
As for Rockefeller, I think you're way off base there, too.
Ida Tarbell's "The History of the Standard Oil Company" would be a good read for you.
Of course, after that was published, Rockefeller engaged in a "Public Relations" effort to unsully his name -- no really -- the man Rockefeller hired to do it coined the phrase we all know and love.
What separates men like Rockefeller and Carnegie from the less-successful tycoons is indefatigable attention to money, and indefatigable disconcern with the plight of those they needed to trample over in order to amass their wealth.
Luck played very little part.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750019</id>
	<title>So running your own business making apps</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1255514820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>is like running your own business. Shocking~</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>is like running your own business .
Shocking ~</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is like running your own business.
Shocking~</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750579</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255518000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple has *ALWAYS* treated their 3rd party devs like this.  They have done this since the Lisa.  Mid 90s it cost 20k+ for a dev kit plus 2-3k more for a dev box.  I could setup 10 MS devs for the same amount of money.  Its better now (closer to free) but it will take awhile to recover from that.</p><p>iPhone devs are just the latest gen to figure out something.  If you are a consumer of Apple and Apple only you get a pretty sweet experience.  If you are a dev for their platform you feel like you just had someone rip you off.</p><p>I gave up around os7.  Haven't looked back.</p><p>Apple and good will are words I would *NEVER* put together.  Ask anyone who has had their iPod battery die or HD die.</p><p>You pay for the 'cool' you buy from them.  Unfortunately they really do not like to share the cool.</p><p>The last real open platform they had was the AppleII and then they went into crazy lockdown mode since.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple has * ALWAYS * treated their 3rd party devs like this .
They have done this since the Lisa .
Mid 90s it cost 20k + for a dev kit plus 2-3k more for a dev box .
I could setup 10 MS devs for the same amount of money .
Its better now ( closer to free ) but it will take awhile to recover from that.iPhone devs are just the latest gen to figure out something .
If you are a consumer of Apple and Apple only you get a pretty sweet experience .
If you are a dev for their platform you feel like you just had someone rip you off.I gave up around os7 .
Have n't looked back.Apple and good will are words I would * NEVER * put together .
Ask anyone who has had their iPod battery die or HD die.You pay for the 'cool ' you buy from them .
Unfortunately they really do not like to share the cool.The last real open platform they had was the AppleII and then they went into crazy lockdown mode since .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple has *ALWAYS* treated their 3rd party devs like this.
They have done this since the Lisa.
Mid 90s it cost 20k+ for a dev kit plus 2-3k more for a dev box.
I could setup 10 MS devs for the same amount of money.
Its better now (closer to free) but it will take awhile to recover from that.iPhone devs are just the latest gen to figure out something.
If you are a consumer of Apple and Apple only you get a pretty sweet experience.
If you are a dev for their platform you feel like you just had someone rip you off.I gave up around os7.
Haven't looked back.Apple and good will are words I would *NEVER* put together.
Ask anyone who has had their iPod battery die or HD die.You pay for the 'cool' you buy from them.
Unfortunately they really do not like to share the cool.The last real open platform they had was the AppleII and then they went into crazy lockdown mode since.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29753717</id>
	<title>Re:Perhaps</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255545840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uhh...</p><p>So succumbing to another "sin" is better than being greedy?</p><p>Being greedy can be helpful to society.  He could invest money in some business that improves the quality of life of other people.  He could do it entirely for the wealth he would make off it.  It would be better for society than him blowing money partying that I suppose benefits night clubs, companies that produce alcoholic beverages, and strippers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uhh...So succumbing to another " sin " is better than being greedy ? Being greedy can be helpful to society .
He could invest money in some business that improves the quality of life of other people .
He could do it entirely for the wealth he would make off it .
It would be better for society than him blowing money partying that I suppose benefits night clubs , companies that produce alcoholic beverages , and strippers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uhh...So succumbing to another "sin" is better than being greedy?Being greedy can be helpful to society.
He could invest money in some business that improves the quality of life of other people.
He could do it entirely for the wealth he would make off it.
It would be better for society than him blowing money partying that I suppose benefits night clubs, companies that produce alcoholic beverages, and strippers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750631</id>
	<title>Re:This is news?</title>
	<author>Nyeerrmm</author>
	<datestamp>1255518360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder how many of those developers are actually releasing though.  For instance, I'm a registered developer (I paid my $100), but I did it solely for personal development.</p><p>That is, I'm an aerospace engineering grad student doing a lot of estimation and controls work, but mostly on the theory/simulation side -- as such I realized I really should have some experience working with actual hardware.  Since my research doesn't provide that opportunity, and I had my phone, which has GPS, accelerometers and magnetometers handy, so I decided to see what I could do with it.  Paying the dev fee was probably cheaper than buying custom-purpose hardware.</p><p>It's certainly been interesting, and I'm pretty far along in a program that one can attach to a telescope, align against known stars, and then determine where you're pointing afterwards -- but its entirely something I'm doing for me.  When its finished (school, another project, and a girl have prevented me from working on it in a while), I'll probably push it on to the app store, sell it for a few bucks on the off chance I'll make the dev fee back, but really, if it makes the difference in me getting a job I want, then thats much more worthwhile to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how many of those developers are actually releasing though .
For instance , I 'm a registered developer ( I paid my $ 100 ) , but I did it solely for personal development.That is , I 'm an aerospace engineering grad student doing a lot of estimation and controls work , but mostly on the theory/simulation side -- as such I realized I really should have some experience working with actual hardware .
Since my research does n't provide that opportunity , and I had my phone , which has GPS , accelerometers and magnetometers handy , so I decided to see what I could do with it .
Paying the dev fee was probably cheaper than buying custom-purpose hardware.It 's certainly been interesting , and I 'm pretty far along in a program that one can attach to a telescope , align against known stars , and then determine where you 're pointing afterwards -- but its entirely something I 'm doing for me .
When its finished ( school , another project , and a girl have prevented me from working on it in a while ) , I 'll probably push it on to the app store , sell it for a few bucks on the off chance I 'll make the dev fee back , but really , if it makes the difference in me getting a job I want , then thats much more worthwhile to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how many of those developers are actually releasing though.
For instance, I'm a registered developer (I paid my $100), but I did it solely for personal development.That is, I'm an aerospace engineering grad student doing a lot of estimation and controls work, but mostly on the theory/simulation side -- as such I realized I really should have some experience working with actual hardware.
Since my research doesn't provide that opportunity, and I had my phone, which has GPS, accelerometers and magnetometers handy, so I decided to see what I could do with it.
Paying the dev fee was probably cheaper than buying custom-purpose hardware.It's certainly been interesting, and I'm pretty far along in a program that one can attach to a telescope, align against known stars, and then determine where you're pointing afterwards -- but its entirely something I'm doing for me.
When its finished (school, another project, and a girl have prevented me from working on it in a while), I'll probably push it on to the app store, sell it for a few bucks on the off chance I'll make the dev fee back, but really, if it makes the difference in me getting a job I want, then thats much more worthwhile to me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751093</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>ProfessionalCookie</author>
	<datestamp>1255521060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Try advertising</htmltext>
<tokenext>Try advertising</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try advertising</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751385</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>nametaken</author>
	<datestamp>1255523160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Apple only pays if you break $250 for each region, not for all regions combined</i></p><p>That's evil.  This sounds like one of PayPal.com's schemes to boost ledger numbers by locking up other peoples' money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple only pays if you break $ 250 for each region , not for all regions combinedThat 's evil .
This sounds like one of PayPal.com 's schemes to boost ledger numbers by locking up other peoples ' money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple only pays if you break $250 for each region, not for all regions combinedThat's evil.
This sounds like one of PayPal.com's schemes to boost ledger numbers by locking up other peoples' money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749923</id>
	<title>This is news?</title>
	<author>FrozenGeek</author>
	<datestamp>1255514460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Per the article (yes, I know I'm not supposed to read the article BEFORE commenting), there are 125,000 iPhone developers out there.  That's a lot of competition.  Especially when there seems to be relatively little innovation between apps.  You want to make money developing iPhone apps?  Find a way to help a niche market solve a problem, and do it better than anyone else.  Don't write another tip calculator (are there really that many people who cannot calculate 15\% of the total before tax?).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Per the article ( yes , I know I 'm not supposed to read the article BEFORE commenting ) , there are 125,000 iPhone developers out there .
That 's a lot of competition .
Especially when there seems to be relatively little innovation between apps .
You want to make money developing iPhone apps ?
Find a way to help a niche market solve a problem , and do it better than anyone else .
Do n't write another tip calculator ( are there really that many people who can not calculate 15 \ % of the total before tax ?
) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Per the article (yes, I know I'm not supposed to read the article BEFORE commenting), there are 125,000 iPhone developers out there.
That's a lot of competition.
Especially when there seems to be relatively little innovation between apps.
You want to make money developing iPhone apps?
Find a way to help a niche market solve a problem, and do it better than anyone else.
Don't write another tip calculator (are there really that many people who cannot calculate 15\% of the total before tax?
).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750761</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>AHuxley</author>
	<datestamp>1255519140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>IBM was facing monopoly problems.<br>
The future of personal computing was gifted to one of their own.<br>
A rich young man, connected to the US establishment.<br>
IBM helped sort Europe during ww2 and Bills father helped sort the US via Planned Parenthood.<br>
The Bill &amp; Melinda Gates foundation has the same aims.<br>
Its not luck or hard work, its birthright.</htmltext>
<tokenext>IBM was facing monopoly problems .
The future of personal computing was gifted to one of their own .
A rich young man , connected to the US establishment .
IBM helped sort Europe during ww2 and Bills father helped sort the US via Planned Parenthood .
The Bill &amp; Melinda Gates foundation has the same aims .
Its not luck or hard work , its birthright .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IBM was facing monopoly problems.
The future of personal computing was gifted to one of their own.
A rich young man, connected to the US establishment.
IBM helped sort Europe during ww2 and Bills father helped sort the US via Planned Parenthood.
The Bill &amp; Melinda Gates foundation has the same aims.
Its not luck or hard work, its birthright.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749991</id>
	<title>You mean indy development isn't a free goldmine?</title>
	<author>Maury Markowitz</author>
	<datestamp>1255514700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I think we've reached a point where people are thinking I shouldn't quit my day job for this."</p><p>Umm, in commercial software?</p><p>STOP THE PRESSES!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I think we 've reached a point where people are thinking I should n't quit my day job for this .
" Umm , in commercial software ? STOP THE PRESSES !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I think we've reached a point where people are thinking I shouldn't quit my day job for this.
"Umm, in commercial software?STOP THE PRESSES!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749791</id>
	<title>Another shocker</title>
	<author>moogied</author>
	<datestamp>1255513860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whats next? My money tree won't grow??  Come on people, there are very very few "easy ways to get rich", and the few ways that do exist typically involve f'n over everyone else, and you ending up in jail at some point.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whats next ?
My money tree wo n't grow ? ?
Come on people , there are very very few " easy ways to get rich " , and the few ways that do exist typically involve f'n over everyone else , and you ending up in jail at some point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whats next?
My money tree won't grow??
Come on people, there are very very few "easy ways to get rich", and the few ways that do exist typically involve f'n over everyone else, and you ending up in jail at some point.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29756773</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Angry Anonymous App Developer</title>
	<author>intheshelter</author>
	<datestamp>1255619400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Whores make more money than bitches."

-  No greater wisdom was ever expressed.  I too find it useful to incorporate prostitution in all my analogies.  I find that it it clarifies like nothing else can.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Whores make more money than bitches .
" - No greater wisdom was ever expressed .
I too find it useful to incorporate prostitution in all my analogies .
I find that it it clarifies like nothing else can .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Whores make more money than bitches.
"

-  No greater wisdom was ever expressed.
I too find it useful to incorporate prostitution in all my analogies.
I find that it it clarifies like nothing else can.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750101</id>
	<title>To be fair, it IS a world of easy opportunity...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255515300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...but that doesn't mean it's a guarantee for riches, and I to blame the App Store or Apple's business model for that is nothing but narrowmindedness and stupidity - if the crowd simply don't want what you are offering, it's you who's doing something wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...but that does n't mean it 's a guarantee for riches , and I to blame the App Store or Apple 's business model for that is nothing but narrowmindedness and stupidity - if the crowd simply do n't want what you are offering , it 's you who 's doing something wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...but that doesn't mean it's a guarantee for riches, and I to blame the App Store or Apple's business model for that is nothing but narrowmindedness and stupidity - if the crowd simply don't want what you are offering, it's you who's doing something wrong.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750447</id>
	<title>Re:The road to richess passes through Marketing</title>
	<author>Itninja</author>
	<datestamp>1255517160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The next game we bade was honestly no very fun.</p></div> </blockquote><p>Maybe the games are so rife with typos that players don't care how fun it is. I have seen more than one game out that showing my 'High Scoe' or that I am on 'Level Too'.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The next game we bade was honestly no very fun .
Maybe the games are so rife with typos that players do n't care how fun it is .
I have seen more than one game out that showing my 'High Scoe ' or that I am on 'Level Too' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The next game we bade was honestly no very fun.
Maybe the games are so rife with typos that players don't care how fun it is.
I have seen more than one game out that showing my 'High Scoe' or that I am on 'Level Too'.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29752009</id>
	<title>Re:Perhaps</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255528260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The story here is that Newsweek found a dozen people who can provide anecdotal accounts of individuals not being successful while selling software in the App Store. Because while Apple turned the mobile software market from a failure to an astounding success, it's important to keep in mind that not everyone who makes a half-assed attempt to get rich quick via the iPhone will be snorting coke off hooker's asses in Cancun within a few weeks (just the approval process takes longer than that! Plus you have to save up for years to buy a Mac, and then scrounge up $99 for a certificate. That's all simply well out of the reach of most developers who want to get rich quick in mobile software.)</p><p>This is all newsworthy because Apple has sold a <em>couple billion apps</em> in its first year, and explaining away the success of the App Store is critically important for Apple critics. Casting a cloud over Apple's software store also helps provide some relief to the struggling stores run by competitors, and distracts away from the problems affecting <a href="http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/08/29/googles-android-market-guarantees-problems-for-users/" title="roughlydrafted.com" rel="nofollow">Android</a> [roughlydrafted.com], <a href="http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/6856C375-FE4E-4BC8-B753-B48AF3BD8B30.html" title="roughlydrafted.com" rel="nofollow">Symbian</a> [roughlydrafted.com], and <a href="http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/08/20/why-microsoft-will-slaughter-its-windows-mobile-and-pc-partners-and-what-it-means-for-apple-and-google/" title="roughlydrafted.com" rel="nofollow">Windows Mobile</a> [roughlydrafted.com].</p><p>That's also why the problem of Apple's successful trajectory with the iPhone is a core issue for <a href="http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/10/08/gartner-declares-android-a-second-place-winner-in-2012-why/" title="roughlydrafted.com" rel="nofollow">Gartner</a> [roughlydrafted.com], plenty of <a href="http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/04/28/the-iphone-isnt-coming-to-verizon/" title="roughlydrafted.com" rel="nofollow">one-man consultant groups</a> [roughlydrafted.com] who shill for competing platforms and carriers, and of course, all of this is newsworthy to Slashdot because it offers some opportunity for negative discussion about Apple.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The story here is that Newsweek found a dozen people who can provide anecdotal accounts of individuals not being successful while selling software in the App Store .
Because while Apple turned the mobile software market from a failure to an astounding success , it 's important to keep in mind that not everyone who makes a half-assed attempt to get rich quick via the iPhone will be snorting coke off hooker 's asses in Cancun within a few weeks ( just the approval process takes longer than that !
Plus you have to save up for years to buy a Mac , and then scrounge up $ 99 for a certificate .
That 's all simply well out of the reach of most developers who want to get rich quick in mobile software .
) This is all newsworthy because Apple has sold a couple billion apps in its first year , and explaining away the success of the App Store is critically important for Apple critics .
Casting a cloud over Apple 's software store also helps provide some relief to the struggling stores run by competitors , and distracts away from the problems affecting Android [ roughlydrafted.com ] , Symbian [ roughlydrafted.com ] , and Windows Mobile [ roughlydrafted.com ] .That 's also why the problem of Apple 's successful trajectory with the iPhone is a core issue for Gartner [ roughlydrafted.com ] , plenty of one-man consultant groups [ roughlydrafted.com ] who shill for competing platforms and carriers , and of course , all of this is newsworthy to Slashdot because it offers some opportunity for negative discussion about Apple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The story here is that Newsweek found a dozen people who can provide anecdotal accounts of individuals not being successful while selling software in the App Store.
Because while Apple turned the mobile software market from a failure to an astounding success, it's important to keep in mind that not everyone who makes a half-assed attempt to get rich quick via the iPhone will be snorting coke off hooker's asses in Cancun within a few weeks (just the approval process takes longer than that!
Plus you have to save up for years to buy a Mac, and then scrounge up $99 for a certificate.
That's all simply well out of the reach of most developers who want to get rich quick in mobile software.
)This is all newsworthy because Apple has sold a couple billion apps in its first year, and explaining away the success of the App Store is critically important for Apple critics.
Casting a cloud over Apple's software store also helps provide some relief to the struggling stores run by competitors, and distracts away from the problems affecting Android [roughlydrafted.com], Symbian [roughlydrafted.com], and Windows Mobile [roughlydrafted.com].That's also why the problem of Apple's successful trajectory with the iPhone is a core issue for Gartner [roughlydrafted.com], plenty of one-man consultant groups [roughlydrafted.com] who shill for competing platforms and carriers, and of course, all of this is newsworthy to Slashdot because it offers some opportunity for negative discussion about Apple.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749913</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255514400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's definitely not easy to even earn a little money on the App Store with just a good game, much less get rich. I am the developer of a game on the App Store and have not been paid a single cent from Apple yet. The game is highly polished and has great written reviews and even good reviews from professional sites. It's only $0.99 to $1.99 (depending on sales). We've had a few hundred sales since the beginning of the year. Apple only pays if you break $250 for each region, not for all regions combined, so they keep what little we've earned indefinitely unless we make more sales. I'm not going to whore the product out by mentioning it here; I just want to get the message out that this is what's up with the App Store to other potential developers. I logged over 500 hours developing that game and haven't received anything for it. So not only is it entirely possible you won't achieve success, but you might waste a lot of time and resources in the process. The process of getting any information from Apple was miserable, and they treat developers like shit. I used to have a lot of faith in Apple's good will and have been a long-time Mac head, but after this experience, I'll still buy Macs, but I will NEVER do any other kinds of business with them again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's definitely not easy to even earn a little money on the App Store with just a good game , much less get rich .
I am the developer of a game on the App Store and have not been paid a single cent from Apple yet .
The game is highly polished and has great written reviews and even good reviews from professional sites .
It 's only $ 0.99 to $ 1.99 ( depending on sales ) .
We 've had a few hundred sales since the beginning of the year .
Apple only pays if you break $ 250 for each region , not for all regions combined , so they keep what little we 've earned indefinitely unless we make more sales .
I 'm not going to whore the product out by mentioning it here ; I just want to get the message out that this is what 's up with the App Store to other potential developers .
I logged over 500 hours developing that game and have n't received anything for it .
So not only is it entirely possible you wo n't achieve success , but you might waste a lot of time and resources in the process .
The process of getting any information from Apple was miserable , and they treat developers like shit .
I used to have a lot of faith in Apple 's good will and have been a long-time Mac head , but after this experience , I 'll still buy Macs , but I will NEVER do any other kinds of business with them again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's definitely not easy to even earn a little money on the App Store with just a good game, much less get rich.
I am the developer of a game on the App Store and have not been paid a single cent from Apple yet.
The game is highly polished and has great written reviews and even good reviews from professional sites.
It's only $0.99 to $1.99 (depending on sales).
We've had a few hundred sales since the beginning of the year.
Apple only pays if you break $250 for each region, not for all regions combined, so they keep what little we've earned indefinitely unless we make more sales.
I'm not going to whore the product out by mentioning it here; I just want to get the message out that this is what's up with the App Store to other potential developers.
I logged over 500 hours developing that game and haven't received anything for it.
So not only is it entirely possible you won't achieve success, but you might waste a lot of time and resources in the process.
The process of getting any information from Apple was miserable, and they treat developers like shit.
I used to have a lot of faith in Apple's good will and have been a long-time Mac head, but after this experience, I'll still buy Macs, but I will NEVER do any other kinds of business with them again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29752961</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255536000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nonsense. In Australia, everyone expects to get rich from borrowing lots of money and buying houses.</p><p>I don't know how well that's been working for you Americans, but over here we have 1/10th the population density and a median house price over double yours, so we must be doing something right! Onwards and upwards, and we'll all get rich from changing the price tags of houses with borrowed money!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nonsense .
In Australia , everyone expects to get rich from borrowing lots of money and buying houses.I do n't know how well that 's been working for you Americans , but over here we have 1/10th the population density and a median house price over double yours , so we must be doing something right !
Onwards and upwards , and we 'll all get rich from changing the price tags of houses with borrowed money !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nonsense.
In Australia, everyone expects to get rich from borrowing lots of money and buying houses.I don't know how well that's been working for you Americans, but over here we have 1/10th the population density and a median house price over double yours, so we must be doing something right!
Onwards and upwards, and we'll all get rich from changing the price tags of houses with borrowed money!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29752867</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1255535160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>And thousands WERE in their place, and did not. How many people were in the homebrew computer scene at the time? How many dinked around and wrote their own versions of BASIC? How many started their own companies? How many succeeded? How many had the same exact background and opportunities... and did nothing?</i></p><p>None. No two people have the same experiences and opportunities.</p><p>There are things beyond your control that have to fall into place for you to become wildly successful. That is what people call luck. Yeah hard work is usually also required, at least at the start.</p><p><i>Attributing such to "luck" translates into refusing to take responsibility for your own actions and your own choices. "It's not me, it's luck." "Joe got the promotion and not me, the lucky bastard." And so on, and so on.</i></p><p>It just may be that Joe has a quality or did something that you could not have. That's called being a realist, not refusing to take responsibility. Using such circumstances as an excuse not to make an effort to try make the most of the opportunities that come your way is refusing to take responsibility.</p><p><i>Many people have been at the helm of Apple, and only one has driven it to success. Twice. Is that luck? </i></p><p>No it's marketing.</p><p><i>Would just anyone have made the same choices? Would just anyone have had the same insights? Would just anyone have the same vision and commitment and drive?</i></p><p>Now you're just playing hero worshiper. If you think it was raw "vision and commitment and drive" with no fortunate circumstance that made Jobs rich you're living in a fantasy world.</p><p><i>Really? Perhaps someone should have mentioned that to Edison? Who definitely made a success out of spending just a "few more hours in the lab".</i></p><p>Lots of people spend all their lives working in a lab or at a computer and don't make it. It's not JUST the time and effort that got Edison anywhere. He had aptitude in a number of areas that most people don't.</p><p><i>But you're not capable of believing that, are you? So go home after work, why don't you? Go home and sit on the couch, or go down to the corner bar. Have a beer, and bitch and moan and complain about how "unlucky" you are. And definitely don't try to "do" anything about it. That's too hard, and with your luck, why bother?</i></p><p>Do you know anything at all about what the GP does in his spare time? Or indeed if he even has any? Do you have a family? Children? Spending all your time at work and neglecting them while persuing some foolish dream of fame and fortune isn't the way to go.</p><p><i>Actually, you're half right. For you, it is luck, because in this case the prophecy is definitely self-fullfilling.</i></p><p>When someone wants to insult you they call it "self-fulfilling prophecy". When they want to praise you they call it "foresight" or "being a realist"</p><p>You keep on telling yourself there's no such thing as luck. Keep working yourself into the ground doing things that aren't likely to make you rich or famous. It changes nothing. Certainly not your wealth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And thousands WERE in their place , and did not .
How many people were in the homebrew computer scene at the time ?
How many dinked around and wrote their own versions of BASIC ?
How many started their own companies ?
How many succeeded ?
How many had the same exact background and opportunities... and did nothing ? None .
No two people have the same experiences and opportunities.There are things beyond your control that have to fall into place for you to become wildly successful .
That is what people call luck .
Yeah hard work is usually also required , at least at the start.Attributing such to " luck " translates into refusing to take responsibility for your own actions and your own choices .
" It 's not me , it 's luck .
" " Joe got the promotion and not me , the lucky bastard .
" And so on , and so on.It just may be that Joe has a quality or did something that you could not have .
That 's called being a realist , not refusing to take responsibility .
Using such circumstances as an excuse not to make an effort to try make the most of the opportunities that come your way is refusing to take responsibility.Many people have been at the helm of Apple , and only one has driven it to success .
Twice. Is that luck ?
No it 's marketing.Would just anyone have made the same choices ?
Would just anyone have had the same insights ?
Would just anyone have the same vision and commitment and drive ? Now you 're just playing hero worshiper .
If you think it was raw " vision and commitment and drive " with no fortunate circumstance that made Jobs rich you 're living in a fantasy world.Really ?
Perhaps someone should have mentioned that to Edison ?
Who definitely made a success out of spending just a " few more hours in the lab " .Lots of people spend all their lives working in a lab or at a computer and do n't make it .
It 's not JUST the time and effort that got Edison anywhere .
He had aptitude in a number of areas that most people do n't.But you 're not capable of believing that , are you ?
So go home after work , why do n't you ?
Go home and sit on the couch , or go down to the corner bar .
Have a beer , and bitch and moan and complain about how " unlucky " you are .
And definitely do n't try to " do " anything about it .
That 's too hard , and with your luck , why bother ? Do you know anything at all about what the GP does in his spare time ?
Or indeed if he even has any ?
Do you have a family ?
Children ? Spending all your time at work and neglecting them while persuing some foolish dream of fame and fortune is n't the way to go.Actually , you 're half right .
For you , it is luck , because in this case the prophecy is definitely self-fullfilling.When someone wants to insult you they call it " self-fulfilling prophecy " .
When they want to praise you they call it " foresight " or " being a realist " You keep on telling yourself there 's no such thing as luck .
Keep working yourself into the ground doing things that are n't likely to make you rich or famous .
It changes nothing .
Certainly not your wealth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And thousands WERE in their place, and did not.
How many people were in the homebrew computer scene at the time?
How many dinked around and wrote their own versions of BASIC?
How many started their own companies?
How many succeeded?
How many had the same exact background and opportunities... and did nothing?None.
No two people have the same experiences and opportunities.There are things beyond your control that have to fall into place for you to become wildly successful.
That is what people call luck.
Yeah hard work is usually also required, at least at the start.Attributing such to "luck" translates into refusing to take responsibility for your own actions and your own choices.
"It's not me, it's luck.
" "Joe got the promotion and not me, the lucky bastard.
" And so on, and so on.It just may be that Joe has a quality or did something that you could not have.
That's called being a realist, not refusing to take responsibility.
Using such circumstances as an excuse not to make an effort to try make the most of the opportunities that come your way is refusing to take responsibility.Many people have been at the helm of Apple, and only one has driven it to success.
Twice. Is that luck?
No it's marketing.Would just anyone have made the same choices?
Would just anyone have had the same insights?
Would just anyone have the same vision and commitment and drive?Now you're just playing hero worshiper.
If you think it was raw "vision and commitment and drive" with no fortunate circumstance that made Jobs rich you're living in a fantasy world.Really?
Perhaps someone should have mentioned that to Edison?
Who definitely made a success out of spending just a "few more hours in the lab".Lots of people spend all their lives working in a lab or at a computer and don't make it.
It's not JUST the time and effort that got Edison anywhere.
He had aptitude in a number of areas that most people don't.But you're not capable of believing that, are you?
So go home after work, why don't you?
Go home and sit on the couch, or go down to the corner bar.
Have a beer, and bitch and moan and complain about how "unlucky" you are.
And definitely don't try to "do" anything about it.
That's too hard, and with your luck, why bother?Do you know anything at all about what the GP does in his spare time?
Or indeed if he even has any?
Do you have a family?
Children? Spending all your time at work and neglecting them while persuing some foolish dream of fame and fortune isn't the way to go.Actually, you're half right.
For you, it is luck, because in this case the prophecy is definitely self-fullfilling.When someone wants to insult you they call it "self-fulfilling prophecy".
When they want to praise you they call it "foresight" or "being a realist"You keep on telling yourself there's no such thing as luck.
Keep working yourself into the ground doing things that aren't likely to make you rich or famous.
It changes nothing.
Certainly not your wealth.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29758997</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>firewood</author>
	<datestamp>1255628580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Really? Perhaps someone should have mentioned that to Edison? Who definitely made a success out of spending just a "few more hours in the lab".</i></p><p>If you were objective about this instead of religious, you would present evidence on the correlation between hours spent in the lab and getting really rich (I know lots of people who spent years of their lives in labs, and are barely getting by.)  Then compare that correlation with correlations against being born into an advantaged family, hours golfing with people with the right connections, etc. etc.  And then determine whether more hours in the lab, or more hours doing something else (finding someone from a rich family to marry, buying a lotto ticket, etc.) actually has better odds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really ?
Perhaps someone should have mentioned that to Edison ?
Who definitely made a success out of spending just a " few more hours in the lab " .If you were objective about this instead of religious , you would present evidence on the correlation between hours spent in the lab and getting really rich ( I know lots of people who spent years of their lives in labs , and are barely getting by .
) Then compare that correlation with correlations against being born into an advantaged family , hours golfing with people with the right connections , etc .
etc. And then determine whether more hours in the lab , or more hours doing something else ( finding someone from a rich family to marry , buying a lotto ticket , etc .
) actually has better odds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really?
Perhaps someone should have mentioned that to Edison?
Who definitely made a success out of spending just a "few more hours in the lab".If you were objective about this instead of religious, you would present evidence on the correlation between hours spent in the lab and getting really rich (I know lots of people who spent years of their lives in labs, and are barely getting by.
)  Then compare that correlation with correlations against being born into an advantaged family, hours golfing with people with the right connections, etc.
etc.  And then determine whether more hours in the lab, or more hours doing something else (finding someone from a rich family to marry, buying a lotto ticket, etc.
) actually has better odds.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751299</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255522440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"...but instead lucky men. Thousands of people could have been in their places and done the same thing..."</p><p>And thousands WERE in their place, and did not. How many people were in the homebrew computer scene at the time? How many dinked around and wrote their own versions of BASIC? How many started their own companies? How many succeeded? How many had the same exact background and opportunities... and did nothing?</p></div><p>That's his point, there were thousands of people who could have done it, yet there was only the opportunity for 1 to do it. Someone had to get lucky and be the 1. Had Bill Gates been born 5 years later, someone else would have been there doing what Bill did and would have become the billionaire. You need the skill &amp; drive to succeed. You also need luck. You can't succeed on luck alone, nor can you succeed on skill &amp; drive alone.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" ...but instead lucky men .
Thousands of people could have been in their places and done the same thing... " And thousands WERE in their place , and did not .
How many people were in the homebrew computer scene at the time ?
How many dinked around and wrote their own versions of BASIC ?
How many started their own companies ?
How many succeeded ?
How many had the same exact background and opportunities... and did nothing ? That 's his point , there were thousands of people who could have done it , yet there was only the opportunity for 1 to do it .
Someone had to get lucky and be the 1 .
Had Bill Gates been born 5 years later , someone else would have been there doing what Bill did and would have become the billionaire .
You need the skill &amp; drive to succeed .
You also need luck .
You ca n't succeed on luck alone , nor can you succeed on skill &amp; drive alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"...but instead lucky men.
Thousands of people could have been in their places and done the same thing..."And thousands WERE in their place, and did not.
How many people were in the homebrew computer scene at the time?
How many dinked around and wrote their own versions of BASIC?
How many started their own companies?
How many succeeded?
How many had the same exact background and opportunities... and did nothing?That's his point, there were thousands of people who could have done it, yet there was only the opportunity for 1 to do it.
Someone had to get lucky and be the 1.
Had Bill Gates been born 5 years later, someone else would have been there doing what Bill did and would have become the billionaire.
You need the skill &amp; drive to succeed.
You also need luck.
You can't succeed on luck alone, nor can you succeed on skill &amp; drive alone.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751533</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>demachina</author>
	<datestamp>1255524600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Come on people, there are very very few "easy ways to get rich"</p><p>Well.... Apple and their shareholders seems to have found one.... let everyone else write their apps for them and make them sell them for next to nothing on their app store.  Apple takes a cut on them all with almost no risk.  They don't care which apps succeed since they take a cut off all of them that aren't free.  With the free apps they get free apps to sell their phones for them.</p><p>Pretty similar situation with iTunes.  Everyone else takes the risk producing a hit song and Apple takes a cut off all of them so they can't lose.</p><p>Not to belittle their genius in creating iPod, iPhone and their app store but at this point they have achieved something resembling the Microsoft tax on PC's.  They take a cut out of everything in these two markets and they have almost no risk since they've acquired a near monopoly with iTunes, iPod and iPhone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Come on people , there are very very few " easy ways to get rich " Well.... Apple and their shareholders seems to have found one.... let everyone else write their apps for them and make them sell them for next to nothing on their app store .
Apple takes a cut on them all with almost no risk .
They do n't care which apps succeed since they take a cut off all of them that are n't free .
With the free apps they get free apps to sell their phones for them.Pretty similar situation with iTunes .
Everyone else takes the risk producing a hit song and Apple takes a cut off all of them so they ca n't lose.Not to belittle their genius in creating iPod , iPhone and their app store but at this point they have achieved something resembling the Microsoft tax on PC 's .
They take a cut out of everything in these two markets and they have almost no risk since they 've acquired a near monopoly with iTunes , iPod and iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Come on people, there are very very few "easy ways to get rich"Well.... Apple and their shareholders seems to have found one.... let everyone else write their apps for them and make them sell them for next to nothing on their app store.
Apple takes a cut on them all with almost no risk.
They don't care which apps succeed since they take a cut off all of them that aren't free.
With the free apps they get free apps to sell their phones for them.Pretty similar situation with iTunes.
Everyone else takes the risk producing a hit song and Apple takes a cut off all of them so they can't lose.Not to belittle their genius in creating iPod, iPhone and their app store but at this point they have achieved something resembling the Microsoft tax on PC's.
They take a cut out of everything in these two markets and they have almost no risk since they've acquired a near monopoly with iTunes, iPod and iPhone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29754749</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Professor\_UNIX</author>
	<datestamp>1255603140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You probably will never see a dime from it.  Face it, guys like Steve Demeter got in very early when there was really nothing else to buy on the store so they got most of the purchases.  What did he really create anyway... it looks like another god damn puzzle game.  There's 10 million different variations of the same "match 3 or 4 like colors in an area to eliminate those objects from the screen" games out there that I can't believe anyone would even pay for that.  If the iPhone had Flash support there'd be zero reason to buy 99\% of these little puzzle games since you could just play them online via Flash for free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You probably will never see a dime from it .
Face it , guys like Steve Demeter got in very early when there was really nothing else to buy on the store so they got most of the purchases .
What did he really create anyway... it looks like another god damn puzzle game .
There 's 10 million different variations of the same " match 3 or 4 like colors in an area to eliminate those objects from the screen " games out there that I ca n't believe anyone would even pay for that .
If the iPhone had Flash support there 'd be zero reason to buy 99 \ % of these little puzzle games since you could just play them online via Flash for free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You probably will never see a dime from it.
Face it, guys like Steve Demeter got in very early when there was really nothing else to buy on the store so they got most of the purchases.
What did he really create anyway... it looks like another god damn puzzle game.
There's 10 million different variations of the same "match 3 or 4 like colors in an area to eliminate those objects from the screen" games out there that I can't believe anyone would even pay for that.
If the iPhone had Flash support there'd be zero reason to buy 99\% of these little puzzle games since you could just play them online via Flash for free.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750577</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255518000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>His customers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>His customers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>His customers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750109</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750479</id>
	<title>Re:The road to richess passes through Marketing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255517280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>we don't have a marketing budget x 20 doesn't seem much. joke or not.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>we do n't have a marketing budget x 20 does n't seem much .
joke or not .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>we don't have a marketing budget x 20 doesn't seem much.
joke or not.
;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29771061</id>
	<title>Re:(sigh) - bullsh--</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255720020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I work as hard as anyone, for a very long time (years). Is this luck?</p></div><p>Yes. My family has done the same things that you have done for 40 years. They still live in a trailer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I work as hard as anyone , for a very long time ( years ) .
Is this luck ? Yes .
My family has done the same things that you have done for 40 years .
They still live in a trailer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work as hard as anyone, for a very long time (years).
Is this luck?Yes.
My family has done the same things that you have done for 40 years.
They still live in a trailer.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29753909</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29752209</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Eskarel</author>
	<datestamp>1255529580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Certainly Bill Gates made the most of his opportunities and there was certainly a very large element of hard work and personal ambition there.</p><p>That said, if he'd been born a few years later or probably even a few years earlier, or done almost anything differently in his life he wouldn't have been there to have the opportunities he took advantage of. Hard work is definitely important. Being able to see your opportunities and take advantage of them is important. A certain degree of ruthlessness is also important, and you are very unlikely to succeed in any major way without them.</p><p>That said, the way to get rich beyond your wildest dreams is to be in the right place at the right time. All the hard work in the world will not get you there without that. It'll keep you from starving, it'll probably get you a decent living(if you're smart(not necessarily intelligent) enough to work hard at the right things. Bill Gates is Bill Gates because he was there when opportunity knocked and grabbed it with both hands.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Certainly Bill Gates made the most of his opportunities and there was certainly a very large element of hard work and personal ambition there.That said , if he 'd been born a few years later or probably even a few years earlier , or done almost anything differently in his life he would n't have been there to have the opportunities he took advantage of .
Hard work is definitely important .
Being able to see your opportunities and take advantage of them is important .
A certain degree of ruthlessness is also important , and you are very unlikely to succeed in any major way without them.That said , the way to get rich beyond your wildest dreams is to be in the right place at the right time .
All the hard work in the world will not get you there without that .
It 'll keep you from starving , it 'll probably get you a decent living ( if you 're smart ( not necessarily intelligent ) enough to work hard at the right things .
Bill Gates is Bill Gates because he was there when opportunity knocked and grabbed it with both hands .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Certainly Bill Gates made the most of his opportunities and there was certainly a very large element of hard work and personal ambition there.That said, if he'd been born a few years later or probably even a few years earlier, or done almost anything differently in his life he wouldn't have been there to have the opportunities he took advantage of.
Hard work is definitely important.
Being able to see your opportunities and take advantage of them is important.
A certain degree of ruthlessness is also important, and you are very unlikely to succeed in any major way without them.That said, the way to get rich beyond your wildest dreams is to be in the right place at the right time.
All the hard work in the world will not get you there without that.
It'll keep you from starving, it'll probably get you a decent living(if you're smart(not necessarily intelligent) enough to work hard at the right things.
Bill Gates is Bill Gates because he was there when opportunity knocked and grabbed it with both hands.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29754991</id>
	<title>Re:Perhaps</title>
	<author>quadrox</author>
	<datestamp>1255606920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The first part of your post is valid enough (or at least seems to be), but the second part seems to be either astroturfing or fanboism taken to extremes.</p><p>Misrepresenting what you *personally* think *might* happen to androids marketplace sometime in the future as something that is a problem right now is not very honest at least. Linking to your own blog as if it was some expert testimony without disclosing that you are the author and with which authority you speak is not very honest either.</p><p>Ignoring androids security precautions completely just so you can say it is insecure is just utterly in comtempt of any form of decency. One of the features I'm talking about is goddamn pictured on the top of the blog, the marketplace tells you exactly what behavior you can expect from an app.</p><p>Of course android is not 100\% secure, but it is a design choice to shift *some* of the responisbility on the user which in turn gives the user more freedom. Misrepresenting this as something completely bad is just silly.</p><p>You sir are a troll, and I fell I have just been trolled.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The first part of your post is valid enough ( or at least seems to be ) , but the second part seems to be either astroturfing or fanboism taken to extremes.Misrepresenting what you * personally * think * might * happen to androids marketplace sometime in the future as something that is a problem right now is not very honest at least .
Linking to your own blog as if it was some expert testimony without disclosing that you are the author and with which authority you speak is not very honest either.Ignoring androids security precautions completely just so you can say it is insecure is just utterly in comtempt of any form of decency .
One of the features I 'm talking about is goddamn pictured on the top of the blog , the marketplace tells you exactly what behavior you can expect from an app.Of course android is not 100 \ % secure , but it is a design choice to shift * some * of the responisbility on the user which in turn gives the user more freedom .
Misrepresenting this as something completely bad is just silly.You sir are a troll , and I fell I have just been trolled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The first part of your post is valid enough (or at least seems to be), but the second part seems to be either astroturfing or fanboism taken to extremes.Misrepresenting what you *personally* think *might* happen to androids marketplace sometime in the future as something that is a problem right now is not very honest at least.
Linking to your own blog as if it was some expert testimony without disclosing that you are the author and with which authority you speak is not very honest either.Ignoring androids security precautions completely just so you can say it is insecure is just utterly in comtempt of any form of decency.
One of the features I'm talking about is goddamn pictured on the top of the blog, the marketplace tells you exactly what behavior you can expect from an app.Of course android is not 100\% secure, but it is a design choice to shift *some* of the responisbility on the user which in turn gives the user more freedom.
Misrepresenting this as something completely bad is just silly.You sir are a troll, and I fell I have just been trolled.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749967</id>
	<title>Most apps on the app store really suck.</title>
	<author>Viewsonic</author>
	<datestamp>1255514580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh sure, there are a few gems out there, but good god.. You have to wade through THOUSANDS of crappy useless apps. Not only that, but everyone seems to think 0.99 is a great price to sell an app that does nothing. Oh hey, sticking advertisements into it? Yeah, that gets your application deleted pretty quick, too!

<p>Wake up people, if you wouldn't do this for an app on your Mac/PC, don't do it for the iPhone/iPod.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh sure , there are a few gems out there , but good god.. You have to wade through THOUSANDS of crappy useless apps .
Not only that , but everyone seems to think 0.99 is a great price to sell an app that does nothing .
Oh hey , sticking advertisements into it ?
Yeah , that gets your application deleted pretty quick , too !
Wake up people , if you would n't do this for an app on your Mac/PC , do n't do it for the iPhone/iPod .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh sure, there are a few gems out there, but good god.. You have to wade through THOUSANDS of crappy useless apps.
Not only that, but everyone seems to think 0.99 is a great price to sell an app that does nothing.
Oh hey, sticking advertisements into it?
Yeah, that gets your application deleted pretty quick, too!
Wake up people, if you wouldn't do this for an app on your Mac/PC, don't do it for the iPhone/iPod.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29753559</id>
	<title>Re:Perhaps</title>
	<author>tyrione</author>
	<datestamp>1255543980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Perhaps if he wants to be successful, he shouldn't spend his weekends "partying in Las Vegas and New York" and instead spend it on development and marketing.  I've heard a wacky rumor that can help.</p></div><p>Or define success as less than 7 figures and enjoying a fulfilling life. Some people need to be b**ch slapped into reality.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps if he wants to be successful , he should n't spend his weekends " partying in Las Vegas and New York " and instead spend it on development and marketing .
I 've heard a wacky rumor that can help.Or define success as less than 7 figures and enjoying a fulfilling life .
Some people need to be b * * ch slapped into reality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps if he wants to be successful, he shouldn't spend his weekends "partying in Las Vegas and New York" and instead spend it on development and marketing.
I've heard a wacky rumor that can help.Or define success as less than 7 figures and enjoying a fulfilling life.
Some people need to be b**ch slapped into reality.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750431</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255517040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> That's bullshit. It's luck. (And increasingly these days, the luck of having been born into the correct socioeconomic stratum.) The best we can do is to pursue opportunities to the utmost when they <i>do</i> appear and make the most of the luck we get in life.</p></div><p>
Your statement reminded me of one of my favorite quotes.
<br> <br>
<i>I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it.</i> -- Thomas Jefferson</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's bullshit .
It 's luck .
( And increasingly these days , the luck of having been born into the correct socioeconomic stratum .
) The best we can do is to pursue opportunities to the utmost when they do appear and make the most of the luck we get in life .
Your statement reminded me of one of my favorite quotes .
I 'm a great believer in luck , and I find the harder I work , the more I have of it .
-- Thomas Jefferson</tokentext>
<sentencetext> That's bullshit.
It's luck.
(And increasingly these days, the luck of having been born into the correct socioeconomic stratum.
) The best we can do is to pursue opportunities to the utmost when they do appear and make the most of the luck we get in life.
Your statement reminded me of one of my favorite quotes.
I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it.
-- Thomas Jefferson
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749767</id>
	<title>And common sense prevailed!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255513740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>"I think we've reached a point where people are thinking I shouldn't quit my day job for this." - DUH!?</htmltext>
<tokenext>" I think we 've reached a point where people are thinking I should n't quit my day job for this .
" - DUH !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I think we've reached a point where people are thinking I shouldn't quit my day job for this.
" - DUH!
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29754505</id>
	<title>Re:Perhaps</title>
	<author>dontmakemethink</author>
	<datestamp>1255599420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who said he spent anything?  I've been through Las Vegas about 8 times, partied my ass off, never spent a cent, and that's just from being a musician/promoter for one tour.  Never had such luck with New York, but I bet Steve's a little more plugged in that I am.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who said he spent anything ?
I 've been through Las Vegas about 8 times , partied my ass off , never spent a cent , and that 's just from being a musician/promoter for one tour .
Never had such luck with New York , but I bet Steve 's a little more plugged in that I am .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who said he spent anything?
I've been through Las Vegas about 8 times, partied my ass off, never spent a cent, and that's just from being a musician/promoter for one tour.
Never had such luck with New York, but I bet Steve's a little more plugged in that I am.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750113</id>
	<title>The people who need to read to figure this out</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255515360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. are unlikely to get rich anyway in any field.</p><p>It is stunningly obvious that the likely number of customers for any iPhone application is virtually impossible to determine in advance. From the total number of iPhone users, what percentage would prefer buying an application to look up train routes to looking it up through Safari? This is a problem "professional" developers face as much as "amateur" ones. If that uncertainty makes it unattractive for you to write an app, then the road to riches is obviously not going to be tried anyway so questioning whether it exists is pointless.</p><p>Secondly, most apps are crap. Lack of userfriendliness, obvious features that should be in, a user manual that omits vital information - even if the invisible roulette wheel spins so that you happened to be correct in thinking what people wants, then a crap application will get crap reviews and no buys. Hence, if you don't have the Steve Jobs-like <b>imagination and ability to visualise what people like, what they would like, and how they tend to act</b>, you're probably not going to get rich on making an app. Of course, if you fail to combine fantastic visualisation with strong programming skills, then you could always put a lot of work and effort into it - which makes it a bit like a "day job" where "success is not guaranteed and the odds are long".</p><p>I would actually be happy to pay quite a bit more than $1 for an app that was rock solid and great in every way. Over time and through trial and error, the best app makers will hopefully invest more effort into their apps and increase the price of them as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.. are unlikely to get rich anyway in any field.It is stunningly obvious that the likely number of customers for any iPhone application is virtually impossible to determine in advance .
From the total number of iPhone users , what percentage would prefer buying an application to look up train routes to looking it up through Safari ?
This is a problem " professional " developers face as much as " amateur " ones .
If that uncertainty makes it unattractive for you to write an app , then the road to riches is obviously not going to be tried anyway so questioning whether it exists is pointless.Secondly , most apps are crap .
Lack of userfriendliness , obvious features that should be in , a user manual that omits vital information - even if the invisible roulette wheel spins so that you happened to be correct in thinking what people wants , then a crap application will get crap reviews and no buys .
Hence , if you do n't have the Steve Jobs-like imagination and ability to visualise what people like , what they would like , and how they tend to act , you 're probably not going to get rich on making an app .
Of course , if you fail to combine fantastic visualisation with strong programming skills , then you could always put a lot of work and effort into it - which makes it a bit like a " day job " where " success is not guaranteed and the odds are long " .I would actually be happy to pay quite a bit more than $ 1 for an app that was rock solid and great in every way .
Over time and through trial and error , the best app makers will hopefully invest more effort into their apps and increase the price of them as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> .. are unlikely to get rich anyway in any field.It is stunningly obvious that the likely number of customers for any iPhone application is virtually impossible to determine in advance.
From the total number of iPhone users, what percentage would prefer buying an application to look up train routes to looking it up through Safari?
This is a problem "professional" developers face as much as "amateur" ones.
If that uncertainty makes it unattractive for you to write an app, then the road to riches is obviously not going to be tried anyway so questioning whether it exists is pointless.Secondly, most apps are crap.
Lack of userfriendliness, obvious features that should be in, a user manual that omits vital information - even if the invisible roulette wheel spins so that you happened to be correct in thinking what people wants, then a crap application will get crap reviews and no buys.
Hence, if you don't have the Steve Jobs-like imagination and ability to visualise what people like, what they would like, and how they tend to act, you're probably not going to get rich on making an app.
Of course, if you fail to combine fantastic visualisation with strong programming skills, then you could always put a lot of work and effort into it - which makes it a bit like a "day job" where "success is not guaranteed and the odds are long".I would actually be happy to pay quite a bit more than $1 for an app that was rock solid and great in every way.
Over time and through trial and error, the best app makers will hopefully invest more effort into their apps and increase the price of them as well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750445</id>
	<title>Re:This is news?</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1255517100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Don't write another tip calculator (are there really that many people who cannot calculate 15\% of the total before tax?).</p></div><p>For $1.99 I'll tell you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't write another tip calculator ( are there really that many people who can not calculate 15 \ % of the total before tax ?
) .For $ 1.99 I 'll tell you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't write another tip calculator (are there really that many people who cannot calculate 15\% of the total before tax?
).For $1.99 I'll tell you.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29760809</id>
	<title>Newsflash!!!</title>
	<author>frank\_adrian314159</author>
	<datestamp>1255636620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> Instead they describe an anxiety-wracked marketplace full of bewildering rules, long odds, and little sense of control over one's success or failure.</i> </p><p>So what you're saying is that it's a lot like trying to make a living selling anything else?  Who'da thunk it...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Instead they describe an anxiety-wracked marketplace full of bewildering rules , long odds , and little sense of control over one 's success or failure .
So what you 're saying is that it 's a lot like trying to make a living selling anything else ?
Who'da thunk it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Instead they describe an anxiety-wracked marketplace full of bewildering rules, long odds, and little sense of control over one's success or failure.
So what you're saying is that it's a lot like trying to make a living selling anything else?
Who'da thunk it...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751327</id>
	<title>Dear Angry Anonymous App Developer</title>
	<author>KharmaWidow</author>
	<datestamp>1255522740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How much money are you spending on advertising? How many hours have you spent promoting it? "Great written reviews and even good reviews from professional sites" help, but it takes a lot more make *any product* popular. That, or a chance mention by iTunes staff or Apple commercials.</p><p>It sounds to me that app developers are making the same exact mistake ecommerce stores are making: setting and forgetting.  Apple has 85000+ apps - you need to do something to make it known to us, to the world.</p><p>Sheesh, you even fail to promote it in your rant... "I'm not going to whore the product out by mentioning it here" is EXACTLY the wrong attitude to have if your 500 development hours have any value. Whores make more money than bitches.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How much money are you spending on advertising ?
How many hours have you spent promoting it ?
" Great written reviews and even good reviews from professional sites " help , but it takes a lot more make * any product * popular .
That , or a chance mention by iTunes staff or Apple commercials.It sounds to me that app developers are making the same exact mistake ecommerce stores are making : setting and forgetting .
Apple has 85000 + apps - you need to do something to make it known to us , to the world.Sheesh , you even fail to promote it in your rant... " I 'm not going to whore the product out by mentioning it here " is EXACTLY the wrong attitude to have if your 500 development hours have any value .
Whores make more money than bitches .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much money are you spending on advertising?
How many hours have you spent promoting it?
"Great written reviews and even good reviews from professional sites" help, but it takes a lot more make *any product* popular.
That, or a chance mention by iTunes staff or Apple commercials.It sounds to me that app developers are making the same exact mistake ecommerce stores are making: setting and forgetting.
Apple has 85000+ apps - you need to do something to make it known to us, to the world.Sheesh, you even fail to promote it in your rant... "I'm not going to whore the product out by mentioning it here" is EXACTLY the wrong attitude to have if your 500 development hours have any value.
Whores make more money than bitches.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750235</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>QuoteMstr</author>
	<datestamp>1255515960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>So who did Bill Gates fuck over?</p></div></blockquote><p>No more than Andrew Carnegie, or John Rockefeller. These weren't great or particularly cutthroat men, but instead <i>lucky</i> men. Thousands of people could have been in their places and done the same thing, and the same principle applies to most famous people throughout history. The problem is that we imagine there's some reason to it: that if we just think harder, network more, or spend a few more hours in the lab, we'll be successful too. That's bullshit. It's luck. (And increasingly these days, the luck of having been born into the correct socioeconomic stratum.) The best we can do is to pursue opportunities to the utmost when they <i>do</i> appear and make the most of the luck we get in life.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So who did Bill Gates fuck over ? No more than Andrew Carnegie , or John Rockefeller .
These were n't great or particularly cutthroat men , but instead lucky men .
Thousands of people could have been in their places and done the same thing , and the same principle applies to most famous people throughout history .
The problem is that we imagine there 's some reason to it : that if we just think harder , network more , or spend a few more hours in the lab , we 'll be successful too .
That 's bullshit .
It 's luck .
( And increasingly these days , the luck of having been born into the correct socioeconomic stratum .
) The best we can do is to pursue opportunities to the utmost when they do appear and make the most of the luck we get in life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So who did Bill Gates fuck over?No more than Andrew Carnegie, or John Rockefeller.
These weren't great or particularly cutthroat men, but instead lucky men.
Thousands of people could have been in their places and done the same thing, and the same principle applies to most famous people throughout history.
The problem is that we imagine there's some reason to it: that if we just think harder, network more, or spend a few more hours in the lab, we'll be successful too.
That's bullshit.
It's luck.
(And increasingly these days, the luck of having been born into the correct socioeconomic stratum.
) The best we can do is to pursue opportunities to the utmost when they do appear and make the most of the luck we get in life.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750385</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255516800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who did Bill Gates screw over/  Just ask Tim Paterson of Seattle Computer Products.  Bill purchased MSDOS (was originally called QDOS) from them for a meager $50000.  Tim later went on to work for Microsoft, but I bet he'd much rather have made the deal with IBM himself and kept Bill completely out of the loop.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who did Bill Gates screw over/ Just ask Tim Paterson of Seattle Computer Products .
Bill purchased MSDOS ( was originally called QDOS ) from them for a meager $ 50000 .
Tim later went on to work for Microsoft , but I bet he 'd much rather have made the deal with IBM himself and kept Bill completely out of the loop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who did Bill Gates screw over/  Just ask Tim Paterson of Seattle Computer Products.
Bill purchased MSDOS (was originally called QDOS) from them for a meager $50000.
Tim later went on to work for Microsoft, but I bet he'd much rather have made the deal with IBM himself and kept Bill completely out of the loop.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750167</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>edxwelch</author>
	<datestamp>1255515660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not surprised. 500 hours is only 12 weeks. You're never going to write a decient game in that amount of time. For instance, fieldrunners or air tycoon certainly took more than 500 hours, and really that's the quality you need to be aiming for before you are guaranteed profits.<br>Simple puzzle games won't cut it anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not surprised .
500 hours is only 12 weeks .
You 're never going to write a decient game in that amount of time .
For instance , fieldrunners or air tycoon certainly took more than 500 hours , and really that 's the quality you need to be aiming for before you are guaranteed profits.Simple puzzle games wo n't cut it anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not surprised.
500 hours is only 12 weeks.
You're never going to write a decient game in that amount of time.
For instance, fieldrunners or air tycoon certainly took more than 500 hours, and really that's the quality you need to be aiming for before you are guaranteed profits.Simple puzzle games won't cut it anymore.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750201</id>
	<title>What about the Google Money Tree?!</title>
	<author>sirwired</author>
	<datestamp>1255515840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Speak for yourself pal.  I am waiting for my "Google Money Tree" kit that I just ordered online!  It was even free!*  I am on my way to easy riches!  What?  You are skeptical?!  A Mom from [insert geographic location here] just made [insert some amount between $2k and $3k here] last week!  If it worked for her, it'll work for everyone!</p><p>SirWired</p><p>*Free period lasts for 4.2749 days, and must be canceled via papyrus sent via carrier pigeon to avoid monthly charges of [insert credit limit here.]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Speak for yourself pal .
I am waiting for my " Google Money Tree " kit that I just ordered online !
It was even free !
* I am on my way to easy riches !
What ? You are skeptical ? !
A Mom from [ insert geographic location here ] just made [ insert some amount between $ 2k and $ 3k here ] last week !
If it worked for her , it 'll work for everyone ! SirWired * Free period lasts for 4.2749 days , and must be canceled via papyrus sent via carrier pigeon to avoid monthly charges of [ insert credit limit here .
]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Speak for yourself pal.
I am waiting for my "Google Money Tree" kit that I just ordered online!
It was even free!
*  I am on my way to easy riches!
What?  You are skeptical?!
A Mom from [insert geographic location here] just made [insert some amount between $2k and $3k here] last week!
If it worked for her, it'll work for everyone!SirWired*Free period lasts for 4.2749 days, and must be canceled via papyrus sent via carrier pigeon to avoid monthly charges of [insert credit limit here.
]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750407</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>tylersoze</author>
	<datestamp>1255516920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually they've lowered it to $150 per region now. I'm still waiting on my first pay out too. Although if they make the revenue cutoff too low, you'll get killed by bank wire transfer fees (hello bank, why in the #$!@ are you charging me when people put money *in* my account!)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually they 've lowered it to $ 150 per region now .
I 'm still waiting on my first pay out too .
Although if they make the revenue cutoff too low , you 'll get killed by bank wire transfer fees ( hello bank , why in the # $ !
@ are you charging me when people put money * in * my account !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually they've lowered it to $150 per region now.
I'm still waiting on my first pay out too.
Although if they make the revenue cutoff too low, you'll get killed by bank wire transfer fees (hello bank, why in the #$!
@ are you charging me when people put money *in* my account!
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751447</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255523880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a counterpoint, let me state my case: around 300 hours of programming labor in my free time (I'm a gameplay programmerat a AAA-games company during the day). Made a very simple racing game, style-over-substance kind of thing, backed up by amazing technology (Unity for iPhone). Got help from a 3d artist and a game designer to lay out levels, came up with something very polished that has a subtle "wow factor", if only because it has ps1- era graphics on a phone.<br>Without Apple's help, with all the astroturfing we could get in forums (beta participants, review codes, etc etc) we were selling about 50-100 a day (always at $.99 apiece). One day, without any doing on our side, or even warning from Apple, we got featured on their "What's Hot" category. That first day we sold 1500+, climbed to 96th paid app in the US, etc.<br>So far in 3 months we've sold 25k, leaving me around 6k after taxes. Not the smallest chunk of change, but not nearly enough to support myself. Luckily since the start I forced myself to do it "as a hobby", always keeping in mind that "if I make $500 I'll be happy". So I'm quite content with a very modest success.<br>WE got featured again about a month and a half after the first time, this time in an iTunes only section, so we didn't see that drastic climb (to about 4-500 a day for a week).<br>Now that we're out of all features, we're back at our normal rate.</p><p>Conclusion: Apple has to like your game. Otherwise, you're toast. Even then, you'll have to pump one of these fuckers every 2 months or so. Totally doable if you got nothing better to do...</p><p>For the curious, our app is "Synth Racing".</p><p>- joaquin</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a counterpoint , let me state my case : around 300 hours of programming labor in my free time ( I 'm a gameplay programmerat a AAA-games company during the day ) .
Made a very simple racing game , style-over-substance kind of thing , backed up by amazing technology ( Unity for iPhone ) .
Got help from a 3d artist and a game designer to lay out levels , came up with something very polished that has a subtle " wow factor " , if only because it has ps1- era graphics on a phone.Without Apple 's help , with all the astroturfing we could get in forums ( beta participants , review codes , etc etc ) we were selling about 50-100 a day ( always at $ .99 apiece ) .
One day , without any doing on our side , or even warning from Apple , we got featured on their " What 's Hot " category .
That first day we sold 1500 + , climbed to 96th paid app in the US , etc.So far in 3 months we 've sold 25k , leaving me around 6k after taxes .
Not the smallest chunk of change , but not nearly enough to support myself .
Luckily since the start I forced myself to do it " as a hobby " , always keeping in mind that " if I make $ 500 I 'll be happy " .
So I 'm quite content with a very modest success.WE got featured again about a month and a half after the first time , this time in an iTunes only section , so we did n't see that drastic climb ( to about 4-500 a day for a week ) .Now that we 're out of all features , we 're back at our normal rate.Conclusion : Apple has to like your game .
Otherwise , you 're toast .
Even then , you 'll have to pump one of these fuckers every 2 months or so .
Totally doable if you got nothing better to do...For the curious , our app is " Synth Racing " .- joaquin</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a counterpoint, let me state my case: around 300 hours of programming labor in my free time (I'm a gameplay programmerat a AAA-games company during the day).
Made a very simple racing game, style-over-substance kind of thing, backed up by amazing technology (Unity for iPhone).
Got help from a 3d artist and a game designer to lay out levels, came up with something very polished that has a subtle "wow factor", if only because it has ps1- era graphics on a phone.Without Apple's help, with all the astroturfing we could get in forums (beta participants, review codes, etc etc) we were selling about 50-100 a day (always at $.99 apiece).
One day, without any doing on our side, or even warning from Apple, we got featured on their "What's Hot" category.
That first day we sold 1500+, climbed to 96th paid app in the US, etc.So far in 3 months we've sold 25k, leaving me around 6k after taxes.
Not the smallest chunk of change, but not nearly enough to support myself.
Luckily since the start I forced myself to do it "as a hobby", always keeping in mind that "if I make $500 I'll be happy".
So I'm quite content with a very modest success.WE got featured again about a month and a half after the first time, this time in an iTunes only section, so we didn't see that drastic climb (to about 4-500 a day for a week).Now that we're out of all features, we're back at our normal rate.Conclusion: Apple has to like your game.
Otherwise, you're toast.
Even then, you'll have to pump one of these fuckers every 2 months or so.
Totally doable if you got nothing better to do...For the curious, our app is "Synth Racing".- joaquin</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751765</id>
	<title>Freeware authors (and competition) stays away</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1255526460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That $100 paid along with single channel of distribution with a policy like "you can't post your source" means "go away" to freeware/open source developers.</p><p>So as there aren't 100 free/open tip calculators, that idiot will release his junk for $0.99 diminishing the overall quality, look of app store. Apple can't understand the true power of open source on commercial OS or ways to exploit (in good way) the open source.</p><p>That is one of things Nokia learned in hard way and still trying to fix by helping open source developers with free signing, acquiring trolltech etc...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That $ 100 paid along with single channel of distribution with a policy like " you ca n't post your source " means " go away " to freeware/open source developers.So as there are n't 100 free/open tip calculators , that idiot will release his junk for $ 0.99 diminishing the overall quality , look of app store .
Apple ca n't understand the true power of open source on commercial OS or ways to exploit ( in good way ) the open source.That is one of things Nokia learned in hard way and still trying to fix by helping open source developers with free signing , acquiring trolltech etc.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That $100 paid along with single channel of distribution with a policy like "you can't post your source" means "go away" to freeware/open source developers.So as there aren't 100 free/open tip calculators, that idiot will release his junk for $0.99 diminishing the overall quality, look of app store.
Apple can't understand the true power of open source on commercial OS or ways to exploit (in good way) the open source.That is one of things Nokia learned in hard way and still trying to fix by helping open source developers with free signing, acquiring trolltech etc...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29758049</id>
	<title>Re:This is news?</title>
	<author>Mazin07</author>
	<datestamp>1255624440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds a bit like Google Sky for Android: You just hold the phone up against the night sky, and it labels the stars in the sky based on your location (via GPS!) and time (sync'd with the cell network).  Should you need to find something, the screen will tell you which way to turn.</p><p><a href="http://www.google.com/sky/skymap.html" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/sky/skymap.html</a> [google.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds a bit like Google Sky for Android : You just hold the phone up against the night sky , and it labels the stars in the sky based on your location ( via GPS !
) and time ( sync 'd with the cell network ) .
Should you need to find something , the screen will tell you which way to turn.http : //www.google.com/sky/skymap.html [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds a bit like Google Sky for Android: You just hold the phone up against the night sky, and it labels the stars in the sky based on your location (via GPS!
) and time (sync'd with the cell network).
Should you need to find something, the screen will tell you which way to turn.http://www.google.com/sky/skymap.html [google.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751379</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>martas</author>
	<datestamp>1255523160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>i agree with everything you said except the part about "these days" - there's nothing about "these days" that makes succeeding from a crappy starting point any harder than it used to be any other days, IMHO.</htmltext>
<tokenext>i agree with everything you said except the part about " these days " - there 's nothing about " these days " that makes succeeding from a crappy starting point any harder than it used to be any other days , IMHO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i agree with everything you said except the part about "these days" - there's nothing about "these days" that makes succeeding from a crappy starting point any harder than it used to be any other days, IMHO.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751107</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>8ball629</author>
	<datestamp>1255521120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's the most depressing thing I've read on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. and I've read a lot of depressing things on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. and now that I think about it, that is somewhat depressing as well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's the most depressing thing I 've read on / .
and I 've read a lot of depressing things on / .
and now that I think about it , that is somewhat depressing as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's the most depressing thing I've read on /.
and I've read a lot of depressing things on /.
and now that I think about it, that is somewhat depressing as well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750473</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>strength\_of\_10\_men</author>
	<datestamp>1255517220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Instead they describe an anxiety-wracked marketplace full of bewildering rules, long odds, and little sense of control over one's success or failure. "It's kind of a crapshoot," says Demeter<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>So basically, it's like starting up a company.  Odd how that works.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Instead they describe an anxiety-wracked marketplace full of bewildering rules , long odds , and little sense of control over one 's success or failure .
" It 's kind of a crapshoot , " says Demeter ...So basically , it 's like starting up a company .
Odd how that works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Instead they describe an anxiety-wracked marketplace full of bewildering rules, long odds, and little sense of control over one's success or failure.
"It's kind of a crapshoot," says Demeter ...So basically, it's like starting up a company.
Odd how that works.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29753697</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>wvmarle</author>
	<datestamp>1255545480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then Apple do something terribly wrong as I have received payments from PayPal (people paid in my PayPal account and I had it deposited in my non-US bank account) and that was quite cheap, iirc no transfer fee, just a few \% for the exchange rate. I'm sure at least my bank didn't charge me for it, and you bet I have to pay for receiving a T/T. Even for some local inter-bank transfers!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then Apple do something terribly wrong as I have received payments from PayPal ( people paid in my PayPal account and I had it deposited in my non-US bank account ) and that was quite cheap , iirc no transfer fee , just a few \ % for the exchange rate .
I 'm sure at least my bank did n't charge me for it , and you bet I have to pay for receiving a T/T .
Even for some local inter-bank transfers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then Apple do something terribly wrong as I have received payments from PayPal (people paid in my PayPal account and I had it deposited in my non-US bank account) and that was quite cheap, iirc no transfer fee, just a few \% for the exchange rate.
I'm sure at least my bank didn't charge me for it, and you bet I have to pay for receiving a T/T.
Even for some local inter-bank transfers!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29752427</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255530960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Success can be persued, and with enough work the bright and motivated can become fairly weathly.</p><p>Uberbillionaire secondary movers tend to be created by society (and luck) rather than out of their own personal ability. Had Gates not been there, someone else would have been to fill that void.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Success can be persued , and with enough work the bright and motivated can become fairly weathly.Uberbillionaire secondary movers tend to be created by society ( and luck ) rather than out of their own personal ability .
Had Gates not been there , someone else would have been to fill that void .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Success can be persued, and with enough work the bright and motivated can become fairly weathly.Uberbillionaire secondary movers tend to be created by society (and luck) rather than out of their own personal ability.
Had Gates not been there, someone else would have been to fill that void.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750777</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750529</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Tibor the Hun</author>
	<datestamp>1255517640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Well... What's it called?</i></p><p>"500 iFarts"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well... What 's it called ?
" 500 iFarts "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well... What's it called?
"500 iFarts"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750151</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29757025</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Gilmoure</author>
	<datestamp>1255620300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Part of his luck was that his mom was on the same United Way board as the VP from IBM in charge of their personal computer division. When she heard IBM needed computer software, she told him to contact her son; he was in to computers.</p><p>Another bit of luck was that his dad was a big intellectual property lawyer so when it came time to write up a contract with IBM, he advised Bill on only licensing DOS to them, not selling outright like the QDOS guys did to Bill, and to also have a clause allowing MicroSoft to license it to others as well.</p><p>After that, y'all know the rest.</p><p>So, yeah, he was lucky. Lucky to have the parents he has and that they were in the right place at the right time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Part of his luck was that his mom was on the same United Way board as the VP from IBM in charge of their personal computer division .
When she heard IBM needed computer software , she told him to contact her son ; he was in to computers.Another bit of luck was that his dad was a big intellectual property lawyer so when it came time to write up a contract with IBM , he advised Bill on only licensing DOS to them , not selling outright like the QDOS guys did to Bill , and to also have a clause allowing MicroSoft to license it to others as well.After that , y'all know the rest.So , yeah , he was lucky .
Lucky to have the parents he has and that they were in the right place at the right time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Part of his luck was that his mom was on the same United Way board as the VP from IBM in charge of their personal computer division.
When she heard IBM needed computer software, she told him to contact her son; he was in to computers.Another bit of luck was that his dad was a big intellectual property lawyer so when it came time to write up a contract with IBM, he advised Bill on only licensing DOS to them, not selling outright like the QDOS guys did to Bill, and to also have a clause allowing MicroSoft to license it to others as well.After that, y'all know the rest.So, yeah, he was lucky.
Lucky to have the parents he has and that they were in the right place at the right time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750235</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750083</id>
	<title>Better not to know</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1255515120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do not even want to hear what kinds of targeted advertising appears in a fart app.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do not even want to hear what kinds of targeted advertising appears in a fart app .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do not even want to hear what kinds of targeted advertising appears in a fart app.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749813</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29752577</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>witherstaff</author>
	<datestamp>1255532400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Another tried and true way to get rich - or richer - is to gather up a handful of war mongering CEOs of military industrial companies and get your bunch elected president. No bid contracts, that's the way to go!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Another tried and true way to get rich - or richer - is to gather up a handful of war mongering CEOs of military industrial companies and get your bunch elected president .
No bid contracts , that 's the way to go !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another tried and true way to get rich - or richer - is to gather up a handful of war mongering CEOs of military industrial companies and get your bunch elected president.
No bid contracts, that's the way to go!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751533</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29754659</id>
	<title>We all knew it, but now that it's published</title>
	<author>brentonboy</author>
	<datestamp>1255601640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>maybe people will stop trying to get me to join their iPhone app team on the promise of payment "when it gets big."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>maybe people will stop trying to get me to join their iPhone app team on the promise of payment " when it gets big .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>maybe people will stop trying to get me to join their iPhone app team on the promise of payment "when it gets big.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751825</id>
	<title>Ask the BBC</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1255526820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You should ask the BBC to give you free advertising for your application. I mean, they did it for <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8152338.stm" title="bbc.co.uk">a spinning logo application</a> [bbc.co.uk], so I think your farting application is far more notable.</p><p>Just remember to say that it's "On The Iphone" - that turns any boring trivial non-notable or unimportant scrap of information into front page national news.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You should ask the BBC to give you free advertising for your application .
I mean , they did it for a spinning logo application [ bbc.co.uk ] , so I think your farting application is far more notable.Just remember to say that it 's " On The Iphone " - that turns any boring trivial non-notable or unimportant scrap of information into front page national news .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should ask the BBC to give you free advertising for your application.
I mean, they did it for a spinning logo application [bbc.co.uk], so I think your farting application is far more notable.Just remember to say that it's "On The Iphone" - that turns any boring trivial non-notable or unimportant scrap of information into front page national news.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749813</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750841</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255519500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I disagree, at least in the case of Bill Gates, I don't know anything much about how the other guys got their fortune.</p><p>Yes, Bill Gates got lucky, but there was an enormous amount of effort required on his part to get the opportunity of being in the lucky situation and there was a lot of courage and intelligence required to recognise and take advantage of the lucky break.</p><p>If we take the most famous episode of luck affecting Bill Gates, you have to remember that he must have built up a pretty good software business for IBM to visit him at all and then to take advantage of the unprofessional way IBM were treated by Digital Research took balls (and ruthlessness).  I'm sure most of us would have just said "yeah, I'm sure they'll sort out something.  Now what about our BASIC interpreter?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I disagree , at least in the case of Bill Gates , I do n't know anything much about how the other guys got their fortune.Yes , Bill Gates got lucky , but there was an enormous amount of effort required on his part to get the opportunity of being in the lucky situation and there was a lot of courage and intelligence required to recognise and take advantage of the lucky break.If we take the most famous episode of luck affecting Bill Gates , you have to remember that he must have built up a pretty good software business for IBM to visit him at all and then to take advantage of the unprofessional way IBM were treated by Digital Research took balls ( and ruthlessness ) .
I 'm sure most of us would have just said " yeah , I 'm sure they 'll sort out something .
Now what about our BASIC interpreter ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I disagree, at least in the case of Bill Gates, I don't know anything much about how the other guys got their fortune.Yes, Bill Gates got lucky, but there was an enormous amount of effort required on his part to get the opportunity of being in the lucky situation and there was a lot of courage and intelligence required to recognise and take advantage of the lucky break.If we take the most famous episode of luck affecting Bill Gates, you have to remember that he must have built up a pretty good software business for IBM to visit him at all and then to take advantage of the unprofessional way IBM were treated by Digital Research took balls (and ruthlessness).
I'm sure most of us would have just said "yeah, I'm sure they'll sort out something.
Now what about our BASIC interpreter?
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750235</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29755779</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Provocateur</author>
	<datestamp>1255614540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah you can mention the app name, while signing as 'Anonymous Coward', right?</p><p>Oh, wait...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah you can mention the app name , while signing as 'Anonymous Coward ' , right ? Oh , wait.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah you can mention the app name, while signing as 'Anonymous Coward', right?Oh, wait...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750151</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750453</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>tylersoze</author>
	<datestamp>1255517160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well I'll whore mine then.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) <a href="http://www.rickb.com/iphone" title="rickb.com">http://www.rickb.com/iphone</a> [rickb.com]</p><p>I think my apps are well programmed but suffer from my lack of art skills, which I am attempting to rectify.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) I have a day job as a game programmer, so my iPhone diversions are merely a fun hobby, I'm not really looking to get rich from it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well I 'll whore mine then .
; ) http : //www.rickb.com/iphone [ rickb.com ] I think my apps are well programmed but suffer from my lack of art skills , which I am attempting to rectify .
: ) I have a day job as a game programmer , so my iPhone diversions are merely a fun hobby , I 'm not really looking to get rich from it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well I'll whore mine then.
;) http://www.rickb.com/iphone [rickb.com]I think my apps are well programmed but suffer from my lack of art skills, which I am attempting to rectify.
:) I have a day job as a game programmer, so my iPhone diversions are merely a fun hobby, I'm not really looking to get rich from it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750199</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29753977</id>
	<title>Re:Perhaps</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255549320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If he's not going to go through the process of trying being successful in the market, perhaps he shouldn't comment on it.  He was successful in a different market, good for him, but that doesn't translate to him being some sort of business god.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If he 's not going to go through the process of trying being successful in the market , perhaps he should n't comment on it .
He was successful in a different market , good for him , but that does n't translate to him being some sort of business god .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If he's not going to go through the process of trying being successful in the market, perhaps he shouldn't comment on it.
He was successful in a different market, good for him, but that doesn't translate to him being some sort of business god.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750301</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29757015</id>
	<title>Re:What about the Google Money Tree?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255620300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Speak for yourself pal.  I am waiting for my "Google Money Tree" kit that I just ordered online!  It was even free!*  I am on my way to easy riches!  What?  You are skeptical?!  A Mom from [insert geographic location here] just made [insert some amount between $2k and $3k here] last week!  If it worked for her, it'll work for everyone!</p><p>SirWired</p><p>*Free period lasts for 4.2749 days, and must be canceled via papyrus sent via carrier pigeon to avoid monthly charges of [insert credit limit here.]</p></div><p>It's also beta!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Speak for yourself pal .
I am waiting for my " Google Money Tree " kit that I just ordered online !
It was even free !
* I am on my way to easy riches !
What ? You are skeptical ? !
A Mom from [ insert geographic location here ] just made [ insert some amount between $ 2k and $ 3k here ] last week !
If it worked for her , it 'll work for everyone ! SirWired * Free period lasts for 4.2749 days , and must be canceled via papyrus sent via carrier pigeon to avoid monthly charges of [ insert credit limit here .
] It 's also beta !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Speak for yourself pal.
I am waiting for my "Google Money Tree" kit that I just ordered online!
It was even free!
*  I am on my way to easy riches!
What?  You are skeptical?!
A Mom from [insert geographic location here] just made [insert some amount between $2k and $3k here] last week!
If it worked for her, it'll work for everyone!SirWired*Free period lasts for 4.2749 days, and must be canceled via papyrus sent via carrier pigeon to avoid monthly charges of [insert credit limit here.
]It's also beta!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750201</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29757559</id>
	<title>Re:This is it!!</title>
	<author>An anonymous Frank</author>
	<datestamp>1255622400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What if we all paid our $100 for dev access, and then ran a web site where you can exchange your as-yet-unreleased "projects"?!</p><p>What I'm saying is that I could see a use in having a site where you can post a dev project, in a form where others can use it on their own devices, kinda like a rather public beta test...</p><p>Could that be a way to have whatever features you want, since each app would not have to be approved (yet) by the Apple police?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What if we all paid our $ 100 for dev access , and then ran a web site where you can exchange your as-yet-unreleased " projects " ?
! What I 'm saying is that I could see a use in having a site where you can post a dev project , in a form where others can use it on their own devices , kinda like a rather public beta test...Could that be a way to have whatever features you want , since each app would not have to be approved ( yet ) by the Apple police ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if we all paid our $100 for dev access, and then ran a web site where you can exchange your as-yet-unreleased "projects"?
!What I'm saying is that I could see a use in having a site where you can post a dev project, in a form where others can use it on their own devices, kinda like a rather public beta test...Could that be a way to have whatever features you want, since each app would not have to be approved (yet) by the Apple police?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750631</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751157</id>
	<title>Re:Perhaps</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255521480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>And perhaps you might give your posts a better subject next time. Is that so hard? Or are you so self-important that you feel everyone should read your posts, even with empty subjects like "Perhaps"?</htmltext>
<tokenext>And perhaps you might give your posts a better subject next time .
Is that so hard ?
Or are you so self-important that you feel everyone should read your posts , even with empty subjects like " Perhaps " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And perhaps you might give your posts a better subject next time.
Is that so hard?
Or are you so self-important that you feel everyone should read your posts, even with empty subjects like "Perhaps"?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749755</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749965</id>
	<title>Dear friend</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255514580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My name is Babatunde head of Apple's iPhone App Approval and Placement operations based in Nigeria. If you allow to share in the profits, I can push your app through to number 1 position.
<br>
<br>
Please send your banking information and I will proceed with the transaction and we will both become millionaires.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My name is Babatunde head of Apple 's iPhone App Approval and Placement operations based in Nigeria .
If you allow to share in the profits , I can push your app through to number 1 position .
Please send your banking information and I will proceed with the transaction and we will both become millionaires .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My name is Babatunde head of Apple's iPhone App Approval and Placement operations based in Nigeria.
If you allow to share in the profits, I can push your app through to number 1 position.
Please send your banking information and I will proceed with the transaction and we will both become millionaires.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751193</id>
	<title>Re:So running your own business making apps</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255521720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've started 3 businesses in the last 25 years (none of them software related). One cost me a lot of money in original investment and settling law suits. One broke even, but business is in the toilet. The other one was the original one and I've made an adequate living from it, but had to close it recently for lack of business. They all required an almost maniacal commitment. What I've learned is that your (eventual) reward is usually tied to the amount you are willing to risk. Some fool in a previous post claimed that Carnegie and Rockefeller were just lucky. Luck had nothing to do with it. They were both ruthless, smart, impatient, perceptive risk-takers, and hard-workers. You risk very little writing apps for the iPhone. To expect great rewards is illogical. To the other fool that refused to "whore" his product, please think about what you wrote. Those whores that you derisively dismiss are selling a service. If no one knows about it, how will they make any money; so they advertise their service any way they can. It's called marketing. If you are unwilling to market your product even after 500 hours spent creating it, you must not think too much of it. There is no wonder you haven't made any money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've started 3 businesses in the last 25 years ( none of them software related ) .
One cost me a lot of money in original investment and settling law suits .
One broke even , but business is in the toilet .
The other one was the original one and I 've made an adequate living from it , but had to close it recently for lack of business .
They all required an almost maniacal commitment .
What I 've learned is that your ( eventual ) reward is usually tied to the amount you are willing to risk .
Some fool in a previous post claimed that Carnegie and Rockefeller were just lucky .
Luck had nothing to do with it .
They were both ruthless , smart , impatient , perceptive risk-takers , and hard-workers .
You risk very little writing apps for the iPhone .
To expect great rewards is illogical .
To the other fool that refused to " whore " his product , please think about what you wrote .
Those whores that you derisively dismiss are selling a service .
If no one knows about it , how will they make any money ; so they advertise their service any way they can .
It 's called marketing .
If you are unwilling to market your product even after 500 hours spent creating it , you must not think too much of it .
There is no wonder you have n't made any money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've started 3 businesses in the last 25 years (none of them software related).
One cost me a lot of money in original investment and settling law suits.
One broke even, but business is in the toilet.
The other one was the original one and I've made an adequate living from it, but had to close it recently for lack of business.
They all required an almost maniacal commitment.
What I've learned is that your (eventual) reward is usually tied to the amount you are willing to risk.
Some fool in a previous post claimed that Carnegie and Rockefeller were just lucky.
Luck had nothing to do with it.
They were both ruthless, smart, impatient, perceptive risk-takers, and hard-workers.
You risk very little writing apps for the iPhone.
To expect great rewards is illogical.
To the other fool that refused to "whore" his product, please think about what you wrote.
Those whores that you derisively dismiss are selling a service.
If no one knows about it, how will they make any money; so they advertise their service any way they can.
It's called marketing.
If you are unwilling to market your product even after 500 hours spent creating it, you must not think too much of it.
There is no wonder you haven't made any money.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750019</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29777389</id>
	<title>Cheap Selling:Gucci Low Male Shoes,CA Leggings   f</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255792740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
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<tokenext>                  Welcome TO Our Website : Http : //www.tntshoes.com           we are a prefession online store , you can see more photos and price in our website which is show in the photos .
      All of our product is best quality , but the price is so cheap , we are selling all new nike shoes , t-shirt , handbag , hats ,sunglass .
    we accept paypal as payment , and give free shipping .
Hoddy : CA , Artful Dooger , 5ive , jungle , 10 Deep , Bape , Bbc , etc $ 09- $ 32 free shipping .
We have lots of brand new shoes,clothing , handbag,sunglasses,hats etc for sale , our product is best quality with the amazing price .
You can find the more photos and the price for our product in our website .
  OUR WEBSITE :                                                         YAHOO : shoppertrade @ yahoo.com.cn                                                                 MSN : shoppertrade @ hotmail.com                                                                   Http : //www.tntshoes.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
                  Welcome TO Our Website:  Http://www.tntshoes.com
          we are a prefession online store, you can see more photos and price in our website which is show in the photos .
      All of our product is  best quality, but the price is so cheap, we are selling all  new nike shoes, t-shirt, handbag, hats ,sunglass.
    we accept paypal as payment, and give free shipping.
Hoddy: CA, Artful Dooger, 5ive, jungle, 10 Deep, Bape, Bbc , etc $09-$32 free shipping.
We have lots of brand new shoes,clothing, handbag,sunglasses,hats etc for sale, our product is  best quality with the amazing price.
You can find the more photos and the price for our product in our website.
  OUR WEBSITE:
                                                        YAHOO:shoppertrade@yahoo.com.cn
                                                                MSN:shoppertrade@hotmail.com
                                                                  Http://www.tntshoes.com</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749755</id>
	<title>Perhaps</title>
	<author>Rei</author>
	<datestamp>1255513680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps if he wants to be successful, he shouldn't spend his weekends "partying in Las Vegas and New York" and instead spend it on development and marketing.  I've heard a wacky rumor that can help.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps if he wants to be successful , he should n't spend his weekends " partying in Las Vegas and New York " and instead spend it on development and marketing .
I 've heard a wacky rumor that can help .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps if he wants to be successful, he shouldn't spend his weekends "partying in Las Vegas and New York" and instead spend it on development and marketing.
I've heard a wacky rumor that can help.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750247</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>jellomizer</author>
	<datestamp>1255516080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or once one finds the way.  It won't work again... Especially once the word gets out.  Oddly enough most rich people actually deserved to be rich.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or once one finds the way .
It wo n't work again... Especially once the word gets out .
Oddly enough most rich people actually deserved to be rich .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or once one finds the way.
It won't work again... Especially once the word gets out.
Oddly enough most rich people actually deserved to be rich.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749791</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751003</id>
	<title>Re:The market is unfair!</title>
	<author>modmans2ndcoming</author>
	<datestamp>1255520520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The fart app pisses me off the most... the first guy to market required the skills that a 16 year old could learn over a summer to write it and it was bought millions of times.... WTF...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The fart app pisses me off the most... the first guy to market required the skills that a 16 year old could learn over a summer to write it and it was bought millions of times.... WTF.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fart app pisses me off the most... the first guy to market required the skills that a 16 year old could learn over a summer to write it and it was bought millions of times.... WTF...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749813</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29756943</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Gilmoure</author>
	<datestamp>1255620000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>My money tree won't grow?</i></p><p>I tried that. Grew ok but then birds came and stripped it bare one day.</p><p>*sigh*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My money tree wo n't grow ? I tried that .
Grew ok but then birds came and stripped it bare one day .
* sigh *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My money tree won't grow?I tried that.
Grew ok but then birds came and stripped it bare one day.
*sigh*</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749791</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29754629</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>EvilIdler</author>
	<datestamp>1255601400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple always pay at the end of the year. Sure, you get one payment for each region, with separate transfer fees, but at least they don't keep your money forever. Switch to a bank where only SENDING money costs something if you lose too much<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple always pay at the end of the year .
Sure , you get one payment for each region , with separate transfer fees , but at least they do n't keep your money forever .
Switch to a bank where only SENDING money costs something if you lose too much : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple always pay at the end of the year.
Sure, you get one payment for each region, with separate transfer fees, but at least they don't keep your money forever.
Switch to a bank where only SENDING money costs something if you lose too much :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750407</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749931</id>
	<title>Also, it's not news</title>
	<author>rolfwind</author>
	<datestamp>1255514520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that the software industry is hard.  Years back, circa 2000, I heard that 90\% of games lost money.</p><p>Considering that 90\% of the Apps in the app store are crap to begin with, 9\% are decent, and 1\% good, and even less are great - I'm not sure what is expected?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that the software industry is hard .
Years back , circa 2000 , I heard that 90 \ % of games lost money.Considering that 90 \ % of the Apps in the app store are crap to begin with , 9 \ % are decent , and 1 \ % good , and even less are great - I 'm not sure what is expected ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that the software industry is hard.
Years back, circa 2000, I heard that 90\% of games lost money.Considering that 90\% of the Apps in the app store are crap to begin with, 9\% are decent, and 1\% good, and even less are great - I'm not sure what is expected?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749755</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29822123</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>jawahar</author>
	<datestamp>1256133060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You may <a href="http://www.nagaiah.com/" title="nagaiah.com" rel="nofollow">invest</a> [nagaiah.com] in BRIC.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You may invest [ nagaiah.com ] in BRIC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You may invest [nagaiah.com] in BRIC.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749791</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29757697</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Gilmoure</author>
	<datestamp>1255623000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just checked out your web page. Got some cool apps. After work (not allowed personal electronics in my area), I'll try out your stuff.</p><p>Biggest problem I have is trying to find stuff in Apple's App Store. It's not really set up for the volume of apps there. Wish I could browse it from a web page like Amazon's verses being stuck within iTunes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just checked out your web page .
Got some cool apps .
After work ( not allowed personal electronics in my area ) , I 'll try out your stuff.Biggest problem I have is trying to find stuff in Apple 's App Store .
It 's not really set up for the volume of apps there .
Wish I could browse it from a web page like Amazon 's verses being stuck within iTunes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just checked out your web page.
Got some cool apps.
After work (not allowed personal electronics in my area), I'll try out your stuff.Biggest problem I have is trying to find stuff in Apple's App Store.
It's not really set up for the volume of apps there.
Wish I could browse it from a web page like Amazon's verses being stuck within iTunes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750453</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29761355</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255639500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a game. And you're worried about whoring it?  Who suffers if you mention the name?  Your reputation?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a game .
And you 're worried about whoring it ?
Who suffers if you mention the name ?
Your reputation ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a game.
And you're worried about whoring it?
Who suffers if you mention the name?
Your reputation?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749913</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750515</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>MarkPNeyer</author>
	<datestamp>1255517580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe your problem is your unwillingness to 'whore the product out' - advertising is supposedly the number one indicator of whether a small business succeeds or fails. If nobody's heard of your app, why would they buy it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe your problem is your unwillingness to 'whore the product out ' - advertising is supposedly the number one indicator of whether a small business succeeds or fails .
If nobody 's heard of your app , why would they buy it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe your problem is your unwillingness to 'whore the product out' - advertising is supposedly the number one indicator of whether a small business succeeds or fails.
If nobody's heard of your app, why would they buy it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749913</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750937</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255520040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because banks will scrape money from you any way they can. A wire transfer depositing money is just another excuse for them to charge you a fee. It has nothing to do with whether it's logical or not.</p><p>But I'm sure you're aware of this. I'm just venting for my own sake.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because banks will scrape money from you any way they can .
A wire transfer depositing money is just another excuse for them to charge you a fee .
It has nothing to do with whether it 's logical or not.But I 'm sure you 're aware of this .
I 'm just venting for my own sake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because banks will scrape money from you any way they can.
A wire transfer depositing money is just another excuse for them to charge you a fee.
It has nothing to do with whether it's logical or not.But I'm sure you're aware of this.
I'm just venting for my own sake.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750407</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29760605</id>
	<title>demeter</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255635600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have had the opportunity to meet Demeter and I feel like this article falsely represents his work ethic and his dedication to his artistic creativity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have had the opportunity to meet Demeter and I feel like this article falsely represents his work ethic and his dedication to his artistic creativity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have had the opportunity to meet Demeter and I feel like this article falsely represents his work ethic and his dedication to his artistic creativity.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29754791</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>shmlco</author>
	<datestamp>1255604100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"None. No two people have the same experiences and opportunities."</p><p>Which invalidates the GP's original argument, in that "thousands of people" in the same position could do the same thing. Thanks.</p><p>"It just may be that Joe has a quality or did something that you could not have."</p><p>True. It may also be that Joe did in fact work harder or smarter, or studied longer, and as such earned the promotion.</p><p>"Edison<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... had aptitude in a number of areas that most people don't."</p><p>Fine. What's yours?</p><p>"No it's marketing."</p><p>Just marketing. Right. They didn't actually make products people wanted. They didn't integrate new technologies into cool new devices. They didn't design and create products that featured award-winning industrial design. Nope. "Just marketing." Sorry, but "just" marketing and $5 will get you a latte at Starbucks, and even then they're going to want the cash up front. Plenty of companies have tried to get by on "just" marketing.</p><p>"Spending all your time at work and neglecting them while persuing some foolish dream of fame and fortune isn't the way to go."</p><p>Nice straw man, but I wasn't advocating that. But sitting around and waiting for some mystical magical opportunity to walk up and knock on your front door isn't the way to go either.</p><p>"Keep working yourself into the ground doing things that aren't likely to make you rich or famous."</p><p>Duh. Work simply for the sake of work isn't a panacea. Never said it was.</p><p>And of course there's some luck involved in practically any endeavor. But time and again it's been shown that certain people tend to create their own luck.</p><p>And to insist, as did the GP, that it's ALL luck and that nothing else matters... well, you might as well hand over all your money to the nice man sitting at the poker table and not bother even sitting down, because you've already lost the game.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" None .
No two people have the same experiences and opportunities .
" Which invalidates the GP 's original argument , in that " thousands of people " in the same position could do the same thing .
Thanks. " It just may be that Joe has a quality or did something that you could not have. " True .
It may also be that Joe did in fact work harder or smarter , or studied longer , and as such earned the promotion .
" Edison ... had aptitude in a number of areas that most people do n't. " Fine .
What 's yours ?
" No it 's marketing .
" Just marketing .
Right. They did n't actually make products people wanted .
They did n't integrate new technologies into cool new devices .
They did n't design and create products that featured award-winning industrial design .
Nope. " Just marketing .
" Sorry , but " just " marketing and $ 5 will get you a latte at Starbucks , and even then they 're going to want the cash up front .
Plenty of companies have tried to get by on " just " marketing .
" Spending all your time at work and neglecting them while persuing some foolish dream of fame and fortune is n't the way to go .
" Nice straw man , but I was n't advocating that .
But sitting around and waiting for some mystical magical opportunity to walk up and knock on your front door is n't the way to go either .
" Keep working yourself into the ground doing things that are n't likely to make you rich or famous. " Duh .
Work simply for the sake of work is n't a panacea .
Never said it was.And of course there 's some luck involved in practically any endeavor .
But time and again it 's been shown that certain people tend to create their own luck.And to insist , as did the GP , that it 's ALL luck and that nothing else matters... well , you might as well hand over all your money to the nice man sitting at the poker table and not bother even sitting down , because you 've already lost the game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"None.
No two people have the same experiences and opportunities.
"Which invalidates the GP's original argument, in that "thousands of people" in the same position could do the same thing.
Thanks."It just may be that Joe has a quality or did something that you could not have."True.
It may also be that Joe did in fact work harder or smarter, or studied longer, and as such earned the promotion.
"Edison ... had aptitude in a number of areas that most people don't."Fine.
What's yours?
"No it's marketing.
"Just marketing.
Right. They didn't actually make products people wanted.
They didn't integrate new technologies into cool new devices.
They didn't design and create products that featured award-winning industrial design.
Nope. "Just marketing.
" Sorry, but "just" marketing and $5 will get you a latte at Starbucks, and even then they're going to want the cash up front.
Plenty of companies have tried to get by on "just" marketing.
"Spending all your time at work and neglecting them while persuing some foolish dream of fame and fortune isn't the way to go.
"Nice straw man, but I wasn't advocating that.
But sitting around and waiting for some mystical magical opportunity to walk up and knock on your front door isn't the way to go either.
"Keep working yourself into the ground doing things that aren't likely to make you rich or famous."Duh.
Work simply for the sake of work isn't a panacea.
Never said it was.And of course there's some luck involved in practically any endeavor.
But time and again it's been shown that certain people tend to create their own luck.And to insist, as did the GP, that it's ALL luck and that nothing else matters... well, you might as well hand over all your money to the nice man sitting at the poker table and not bother even sitting down, because you've already lost the game.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29752867</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29753909</id>
	<title>(sigh) - bullsh--</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255548300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The problem is that we imagine there's some reason to it: that if we just think harder, network more, or spend a few more hours in the lab, we'll be successful too. That's bullshit. It's luck. (And increasingly these days, the luck of having been born into the correct socioeconomic stratum.)</p></div><p>Sorry. That's just bullsh--.</p><p>Look, I'm not super-rich, but I do well for myself.  I have a nice house, I have a wife and two children going to college that I'm paying for, a daughter is an exchange student in Europe, more young teens getting warmed up, and I just bought into a private plane.</p><p>But, I started out with a distant relationship with any "silver spoon". I grew up poor, in a mobile trailer on the edge of a small town. I didn't get a college degree. In fact, I didn't even get a standard High School diploma - life at home was bad enough that I ran my senior year!</p><p>So I worked as hard AND as smart as I could for years on end. I got used to 50, 60, 70 hour weeks, and have struggled (successfully!) to fit in time with my lovely family. I have started many businesses and nearly all failed to turn a profit, but each failure taught me something else to not do. I read like mad (and do, to this day!) and have discovered that Barnes and Nobles is an incredibly rich resource if you are willing to spend money and time on good quality books. IMHO, it's always worth it.</p><p>Opportunities abound, but most are mediocre. You need to find the good ones. My formula is to listen for two words:</p><p>1) Expensive, or</p><p>2) Pain in the !@#$. (PITA)</p><p>People will happily give you their money if you can do it cheaper. They'll also happily give you their money if you make life better for them - eliminate some big problem, whatever.  Put them both together and all you have to do is listen and come up with something that works. Don't bother with the proverbial mousetrap - they're already cheap and work well. Instead, look for something where you can save lots of money AND provide powerful, new capabilities.</p><p>In my company, we've done a little of both, and have never had a down year in almost a decade. Sure, at first, it was a milestone to be able to pay ourselves an actual, honest-to-god living wage, and it took us 2 YEARS to get to the "living wage" part.  Hard years, put in while working a day job to feed the wife and kids. But now, my years of investment are paying off.</p><p>I work as hard as anyone, for a very long time (years). Is this luck?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is that we imagine there 's some reason to it : that if we just think harder , network more , or spend a few more hours in the lab , we 'll be successful too .
That 's bullshit .
It 's luck .
( And increasingly these days , the luck of having been born into the correct socioeconomic stratum. ) Sorry .
That 's just bullsh--.Look , I 'm not super-rich , but I do well for myself .
I have a nice house , I have a wife and two children going to college that I 'm paying for , a daughter is an exchange student in Europe , more young teens getting warmed up , and I just bought into a private plane.But , I started out with a distant relationship with any " silver spoon " .
I grew up poor , in a mobile trailer on the edge of a small town .
I did n't get a college degree .
In fact , I did n't even get a standard High School diploma - life at home was bad enough that I ran my senior year ! So I worked as hard AND as smart as I could for years on end .
I got used to 50 , 60 , 70 hour weeks , and have struggled ( successfully !
) to fit in time with my lovely family .
I have started many businesses and nearly all failed to turn a profit , but each failure taught me something else to not do .
I read like mad ( and do , to this day !
) and have discovered that Barnes and Nobles is an incredibly rich resource if you are willing to spend money and time on good quality books .
IMHO , it 's always worth it.Opportunities abound , but most are mediocre .
You need to find the good ones .
My formula is to listen for two words : 1 ) Expensive , or2 ) Pain in the ! @ # $ .
( PITA ) People will happily give you their money if you can do it cheaper .
They 'll also happily give you their money if you make life better for them - eliminate some big problem , whatever .
Put them both together and all you have to do is listen and come up with something that works .
Do n't bother with the proverbial mousetrap - they 're already cheap and work well .
Instead , look for something where you can save lots of money AND provide powerful , new capabilities.In my company , we 've done a little of both , and have never had a down year in almost a decade .
Sure , at first , it was a milestone to be able to pay ourselves an actual , honest-to-god living wage , and it took us 2 YEARS to get to the " living wage " part .
Hard years , put in while working a day job to feed the wife and kids .
But now , my years of investment are paying off.I work as hard as anyone , for a very long time ( years ) .
Is this luck ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is that we imagine there's some reason to it: that if we just think harder, network more, or spend a few more hours in the lab, we'll be successful too.
That's bullshit.
It's luck.
(And increasingly these days, the luck of having been born into the correct socioeconomic stratum.)Sorry.
That's just bullsh--.Look, I'm not super-rich, but I do well for myself.
I have a nice house, I have a wife and two children going to college that I'm paying for, a daughter is an exchange student in Europe, more young teens getting warmed up, and I just bought into a private plane.But, I started out with a distant relationship with any "silver spoon".
I grew up poor, in a mobile trailer on the edge of a small town.
I didn't get a college degree.
In fact, I didn't even get a standard High School diploma - life at home was bad enough that I ran my senior year!So I worked as hard AND as smart as I could for years on end.
I got used to 50, 60, 70 hour weeks, and have struggled (successfully!
) to fit in time with my lovely family.
I have started many businesses and nearly all failed to turn a profit, but each failure taught me something else to not do.
I read like mad (and do, to this day!
) and have discovered that Barnes and Nobles is an incredibly rich resource if you are willing to spend money and time on good quality books.
IMHO, it's always worth it.Opportunities abound, but most are mediocre.
You need to find the good ones.
My formula is to listen for two words:1) Expensive, or2) Pain in the !@#$.
(PITA)People will happily give you their money if you can do it cheaper.
They'll also happily give you their money if you make life better for them - eliminate some big problem, whatever.
Put them both together and all you have to do is listen and come up with something that works.
Don't bother with the proverbial mousetrap - they're already cheap and work well.
Instead, look for something where you can save lots of money AND provide powerful, new capabilities.In my company, we've done a little of both, and have never had a down year in almost a decade.
Sure, at first, it was a milestone to be able to pay ourselves an actual, honest-to-god living wage, and it took us 2 YEARS to get to the "living wage" part.
Hard years, put in while working a day job to feed the wife and kids.
But now, my years of investment are paying off.I work as hard as anyone, for a very long time (years).
Is this luck?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750081</id>
	<title>The road to richess passes through Marketing</title>
	<author>Zadaz</author>
	<datestamp>1255515120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If your app isn't featured or favorited or otherwise supported by a major marketing push, you're doomed.</p><p>The little band of freelancers I work with have produce two games.  One for ourselves.  It was really very good, which bombed at the store. We've sold just a few hundred.  We're small, we don't have a marketing budget.</p><p>The next game we bade was honestly no very fun.  It was okay, not complete crap, but not great.  It's been in the top 50 for several weeks.</p><p>What's the difference?  That second game was done for a Major Developer who was able to spend 20x as much on marketing as development.  (No joke.)</p><p>And even for them, there's no money in it for them.  They're only there to show a success to shareholders and that they're beating the competition in a competitive marketplace.  Couldn't have the independent devs getting the top spots, now could they?  That'd be embarrassing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If your app is n't featured or favorited or otherwise supported by a major marketing push , you 're doomed.The little band of freelancers I work with have produce two games .
One for ourselves .
It was really very good , which bombed at the store .
We 've sold just a few hundred .
We 're small , we do n't have a marketing budget.The next game we bade was honestly no very fun .
It was okay , not complete crap , but not great .
It 's been in the top 50 for several weeks.What 's the difference ?
That second game was done for a Major Developer who was able to spend 20x as much on marketing as development .
( No joke .
) And even for them , there 's no money in it for them .
They 're only there to show a success to shareholders and that they 're beating the competition in a competitive marketplace .
Could n't have the independent devs getting the top spots , now could they ?
That 'd be embarrassing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If your app isn't featured or favorited or otherwise supported by a major marketing push, you're doomed.The little band of freelancers I work with have produce two games.
One for ourselves.
It was really very good, which bombed at the store.
We've sold just a few hundred.
We're small, we don't have a marketing budget.The next game we bade was honestly no very fun.
It was okay, not complete crap, but not great.
It's been in the top 50 for several weeks.What's the difference?
That second game was done for a Major Developer who was able to spend 20x as much on marketing as development.
(No joke.
)And even for them, there's no money in it for them.
They're only there to show a success to shareholders and that they're beating the competition in a competitive marketplace.
Couldn't have the independent devs getting the top spots, now could they?
That'd be embarrassing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751627</id>
	<title>Re:The road to richess passes through Marketing</title>
	<author>mgblst</author>
	<datestamp>1255525560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are running a business, not a lemonade stand. Ignoring marketing and reviews is ignorant and idiotic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are running a business , not a lemonade stand .
Ignoring marketing and reviews is ignorant and idiotic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are running a business, not a lemonade stand.
Ignoring marketing and reviews is ignorant and idiotic.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751347</id>
	<title>Re:The road to richess passes through Marketing</title>
	<author>Zadaz</author>
	<datestamp>1255522920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good point, I should have submitted this post to testing before releasing it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good point , I should have submitted this post to testing before releasing it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good point, I should have submitted this post to testing before releasing it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29784459</id>
	<title>Re:Perhaps</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1255882980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not if you get payed for it!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p><p>Yes, you just have to find someone, willing to pay you for it. There's always someone. Even if it means just entertaining those around you. Like being a DJ, a gogo dancer, a stripper, a bartender, or just a player.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not if you get payed for it !
: DYes , you just have to find someone , willing to pay you for it .
There 's always someone .
Even if it means just entertaining those around you .
Like being a DJ , a gogo dancer , a stripper , a bartender , or just a player .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not if you get payed for it!
:DYes, you just have to find someone, willing to pay you for it.
There's always someone.
Even if it means just entertaining those around you.
Like being a DJ, a gogo dancer, a stripper, a bartender, or just a player.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750109</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255515300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>the few ways that do exist typically involve f'n over everyone else, and you ending up in jail at some point.</p></div><p>So who did Bill Gates fuck over?</p><p>(<a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/\_ySCIT3KO9Zc/RmsVLD8dUAI/AAAAAAAAGPU/F\_Ue8hU7N3I/s1600/Young\_Bill\_Gates\_3.jpg" title="blogspot.com">he has been arrested tho</a> [blogspot.com])</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the few ways that do exist typically involve f'n over everyone else , and you ending up in jail at some point.So who did Bill Gates fuck over ?
( he has been arrested tho [ blogspot.com ] )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the few ways that do exist typically involve f'n over everyone else, and you ending up in jail at some point.So who did Bill Gates fuck over?
(he has been arrested tho [blogspot.com])
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751785</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1255526640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Many people have been at the helm of Apple, and only one has driven it to success. Twice. Is that luck? Would just anyone have made the same choices? Would just anyone have had the same insights? Would just anyone have the same vision and commitment and drive?</i></p><p>If you've got fans and the media giving free advertising to your products (but not your larger competitors), and spinning myths to pretend that you were first in a whole load of areas. Yeah, I think one could make a success with that head start.</p><p>I mean just look at this article - another day, another Apple article (or ten).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Many people have been at the helm of Apple , and only one has driven it to success .
Twice. Is that luck ?
Would just anyone have made the same choices ?
Would just anyone have had the same insights ?
Would just anyone have the same vision and commitment and drive ? If you 've got fans and the media giving free advertising to your products ( but not your larger competitors ) , and spinning myths to pretend that you were first in a whole load of areas .
Yeah , I think one could make a success with that head start.I mean just look at this article - another day , another Apple article ( or ten ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many people have been at the helm of Apple, and only one has driven it to success.
Twice. Is that luck?
Would just anyone have made the same choices?
Would just anyone have had the same insights?
Would just anyone have the same vision and commitment and drive?If you've got fans and the media giving free advertising to your products (but not your larger competitors), and spinning myths to pretend that you were first in a whole load of areas.
Yeah, I think one could make a success with that head start.I mean just look at this article - another day, another Apple article (or ten).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751929</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1255527600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Er - if they're taking a 30\% cut, and keeping the first $250, you can damn well bet they ought to mention it, or do something to justify such a cost.</p><p>And he wasn't asking them to mention it anyway, so that's a straw man. He was just asking for his money!</p><p>You also confuse the difference between being an entrepreneur and being a spammer. Just because someone doesn't spam (like Apple, incidentally - I still get unsolicited spam from them) doesn't mean they don't understand business. On the contrary, it means they understand how not to piss off potential customers.</p><p>And yes, unlike Apple he doesn't have three stories on Slashdot a day about his product. Good for him.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Er - if they 're taking a 30 \ % cut , and keeping the first $ 250 , you can damn well bet they ought to mention it , or do something to justify such a cost.And he was n't asking them to mention it anyway , so that 's a straw man .
He was just asking for his money ! You also confuse the difference between being an entrepreneur and being a spammer .
Just because someone does n't spam ( like Apple , incidentally - I still get unsolicited spam from them ) does n't mean they do n't understand business .
On the contrary , it means they understand how not to piss off potential customers.And yes , unlike Apple he does n't have three stories on Slashdot a day about his product .
Good for him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Er - if they're taking a 30\% cut, and keeping the first $250, you can damn well bet they ought to mention it, or do something to justify such a cost.And he wasn't asking them to mention it anyway, so that's a straw man.
He was just asking for his money!You also confuse the difference between being an entrepreneur and being a spammer.
Just because someone doesn't spam (like Apple, incidentally - I still get unsolicited spam from them) doesn't mean they don't understand business.
On the contrary, it means they understand how not to piss off potential customers.And yes, unlike Apple he doesn't have three stories on Slashdot a day about his product.
Good for him.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751015</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255520640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, he doesn't want to 'whore' his product.</p><p>WTF? It's called letting people know it's out their.</p><p>If you want to whore something, put it into your sig~</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , he does n't want to 'whore ' his product.WTF ?
It 's called letting people know it 's out their.If you want to whore something , put it into your sig ~</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, he doesn't want to 'whore' his product.WTF?
It's called letting people know it's out their.If you want to whore something, put it into your sig~</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750021</id>
	<title>News Flash -- Work in hard!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255514820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really, it it was easy to make a million bucks someplace, then there would be such an inrush of people doing it to dilute it down to where you would just scrape by.  Just like the gold rush.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really , it it was easy to make a million bucks someplace , then there would be such an inrush of people doing it to dilute it down to where you would just scrape by .
Just like the gold rush .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really, it it was easy to make a million bucks someplace, then there would be such an inrush of people doing it to dilute it down to where you would just scrape by.
Just like the gold rush.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751565</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>mgblst</author>
	<datestamp>1255525020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Damn that is ugly. Here is a clue for you, comic sans is only a good font if you are a retard. Design isn't hard, find out what looks good, and copy elements from it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Damn that is ugly .
Here is a clue for you , comic sans is only a good font if you are a retard .
Design is n't hard , find out what looks good , and copy elements from it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Damn that is ugly.
Here is a clue for you, comic sans is only a good font if you are a retard.
Design isn't hard, find out what looks good, and copy elements from it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751663</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255525800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hell, heven if we <i>don't</i> simply assume that he was lucky not being born Bill Gateskowsky from Brooklyn - just assume his well-off parents hadn't send him to one of the very few schools with access to a computer in 1970. He would have lost years of experience programming and more importantly the head-start over almost everyone in the scene. Are you actually telling us Bill Gates would be the richest man on earth today if his first computer would have been a Apple II?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hell , heven if we do n't simply assume that he was lucky not being born Bill Gateskowsky from Brooklyn - just assume his well-off parents had n't send him to one of the very few schools with access to a computer in 1970 .
He would have lost years of experience programming and more importantly the head-start over almost everyone in the scene .
Are you actually telling us Bill Gates would be the richest man on earth today if his first computer would have been a Apple II ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hell, heven if we don't simply assume that he was lucky not being born Bill Gateskowsky from Brooklyn - just assume his well-off parents hadn't send him to one of the very few schools with access to a computer in 1970.
He would have lost years of experience programming and more importantly the head-start over almost everyone in the scene.
Are you actually telling us Bill Gates would be the richest man on earth today if his first computer would have been a Apple II?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750301</id>
	<title>Re:Perhaps</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255516320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps he's already successful and prefers to *spend* the money he's already got rather than making even more for e-peen purposes. That'd explain why he's being cited in Slashdot and Apple's website, too.</p><p>Hell, as much as I dislike the concept of "partying", I believe the world would be a much better place if successful enterpreneurs were as him, rather than succumbing to their greed and small dicks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps he 's already successful and prefers to * spend * the money he 's already got rather than making even more for e-peen purposes .
That 'd explain why he 's being cited in Slashdot and Apple 's website , too.Hell , as much as I dislike the concept of " partying " , I believe the world would be a much better place if successful enterpreneurs were as him , rather than succumbing to their greed and small dicks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps he's already successful and prefers to *spend* the money he's already got rather than making even more for e-peen purposes.
That'd explain why he's being cited in Slashdot and Apple's website, too.Hell, as much as I dislike the concept of "partying", I believe the world would be a much better place if successful enterpreneurs were as him, rather than succumbing to their greed and small dicks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29755161</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>master\_p</author>
	<datestamp>1255609080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Regarding Microsoft and Bill Gates, they were born at the right time, where computers were much less ubiquitous than today (as in almost non-existent). There were lots of opportunities in the 70s and the 80s. Nowadays, it's very difficult, because most of the time, someone will already have thought the idea you just came up with.</p><p>Success is also not only about hard work, it's also about cheating: they bought the DOS system from a professor near Redmond for small change (50,000 $ I think?), then went on and sold that to IBM as PC-DOS, agreeing not to sell PC-DOS to other manufacturers. Then they modified PC-DOS to make MS-DOS (essentially both systems were the same with very few minor differences) and sell it to other manufacturers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Regarding Microsoft and Bill Gates , they were born at the right time , where computers were much less ubiquitous than today ( as in almost non-existent ) .
There were lots of opportunities in the 70s and the 80s .
Nowadays , it 's very difficult , because most of the time , someone will already have thought the idea you just came up with.Success is also not only about hard work , it 's also about cheating : they bought the DOS system from a professor near Redmond for small change ( 50,000 $ I think ?
) , then went on and sold that to IBM as PC-DOS , agreeing not to sell PC-DOS to other manufacturers .
Then they modified PC-DOS to make MS-DOS ( essentially both systems were the same with very few minor differences ) and sell it to other manufacturers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Regarding Microsoft and Bill Gates, they were born at the right time, where computers were much less ubiquitous than today (as in almost non-existent).
There were lots of opportunities in the 70s and the 80s.
Nowadays, it's very difficult, because most of the time, someone will already have thought the idea you just came up with.Success is also not only about hard work, it's also about cheating: they bought the DOS system from a professor near Redmond for small change (50,000 $ I think?
), then went on and sold that to IBM as PC-DOS, agreeing not to sell PC-DOS to other manufacturers.
Then they modified PC-DOS to make MS-DOS (essentially both systems were the same with very few minor differences) and sell it to other manufacturers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751215</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Fulcrum of Evil</author>
	<datestamp>1255521900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>you have to remember that he must have built up a pretty good software business for IBM to visit him at all</p> </div><p>It helps if your mother can put a kind word in the right ear, but yeah, you still have to deliver.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>you have to remember that he must have built up a pretty good software business for IBM to visit him at all It helps if your mother can put a kind word in the right ear , but yeah , you still have to deliver .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you have to remember that he must have built up a pretty good software business for IBM to visit him at all It helps if your mother can put a kind word in the right ear, but yeah, you still have to deliver.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750789</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Davak</author>
	<datestamp>1255519260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll whore out our little game we just released.  It's free, fun, and addictive.</p><p><a href="http://qdideas.com/gtf" title="qdideas.com">http://qdideas.com/gtf</a> [qdideas.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll whore out our little game we just released .
It 's free , fun , and addictive.http : //qdideas.com/gtf [ qdideas.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll whore out our little game we just released.
It's free, fun, and addictive.http://qdideas.com/gtf [qdideas.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749927</id>
	<title>Simply too much competition</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255514520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's like every potential customer is walking into the New York Public Library. What are the odds of them finding your book among all the books available? Every once and awhile you get lucky but barring advertising or some one reviewing your product the odds are damn slim.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's like every potential customer is walking into the New York Public Library .
What are the odds of them finding your book among all the books available ?
Every once and awhile you get lucky but barring advertising or some one reviewing your product the odds are damn slim .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's like every potential customer is walking into the New York Public Library.
What are the odds of them finding your book among all the books available?
Every once and awhile you get lucky but barring advertising or some one reviewing your product the odds are damn slim.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749813</id>
	<title>The market is unfair!</title>
	<author>eln</author>
	<datestamp>1255513920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>My iPhone farting application is way better than all the other farting applications, and yet I've only had 3 downloads so far!  Sure, my application costs 2 bucks more than anyone else's, but it has the largest selection of flatulence noises in the business, and the ads are very unobtrusive.  I really don't understand why I'm not a bazillionaire by now.  Seriously, this thing took me 3 hours to write, and I want my damn money!</htmltext>
<tokenext>My iPhone farting application is way better than all the other farting applications , and yet I 've only had 3 downloads so far !
Sure , my application costs 2 bucks more than anyone else 's , but it has the largest selection of flatulence noises in the business , and the ads are very unobtrusive .
I really do n't understand why I 'm not a bazillionaire by now .
Seriously , this thing took me 3 hours to write , and I want my damn money !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My iPhone farting application is way better than all the other farting applications, and yet I've only had 3 downloads so far!
Sure, my application costs 2 bucks more than anyone else's, but it has the largest selection of flatulence noises in the business, and the ads are very unobtrusive.
I really don't understand why I'm not a bazillionaire by now.
Seriously, this thing took me 3 hours to write, and I want my damn money!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29753483</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255542840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>Really? Perhaps someone should have mentioned that to Edison? Who definitely made a success out of spending just a "few more hours in the lab".</i></p></div> </blockquote><p>Edison was a brilliant inventor, but his financial success owed at least as much, if not more, to legal intimidation (e.g. patent wars with Westinghouse), illegal intimidation (e.g. harassment of film production on the east coast), exploitation (e.g. promising and reneging on payments to Tesla), and out-and-out theft (e.g. bankrupting Melies by stealing his movie and showing it himself.)</p><p>A brilliant inventor, yes, but let's not canonize the man as a scientist who struck it rich through hard labor in pure research.  The man's ruthlessness dwarfed the worst thoughts Slashdotters have about Gates.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Really ?
Perhaps someone should have mentioned that to Edison ?
Who definitely made a success out of spending just a " few more hours in the lab " .
Edison was a brilliant inventor , but his financial success owed at least as much , if not more , to legal intimidation ( e.g .
patent wars with Westinghouse ) , illegal intimidation ( e.g .
harassment of film production on the east coast ) , exploitation ( e.g .
promising and reneging on payments to Tesla ) , and out-and-out theft ( e.g .
bankrupting Melies by stealing his movie and showing it himself .
) A brilliant inventor , yes , but let 's not canonize the man as a scientist who struck it rich through hard labor in pure research .
The man 's ruthlessness dwarfed the worst thoughts Slashdotters have about Gates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Really?
Perhaps someone should have mentioned that to Edison?
Who definitely made a success out of spending just a "few more hours in the lab".
Edison was a brilliant inventor, but his financial success owed at least as much, if not more, to legal intimidation (e.g.
patent wars with Westinghouse), illegal intimidation (e.g.
harassment of film production on the east coast), exploitation (e.g.
promising and reneging on payments to Tesla), and out-and-out theft (e.g.
bankrupting Melies by stealing his movie and showing it himself.
)A brilliant inventor, yes, but let's not canonize the man as a scientist who struck it rich through hard labor in pure research.
The man's ruthlessness dwarfed the worst thoughts Slashdotters have about Gates.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751859</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255527120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> Apple only pays if you break $250 for each region</i></p><p>WTF? I mean, never mind the each region bit, even if it was for all regions combined - WTF? That's <i>your</i> money that they're keeping.</p><p>So to recap:</p><p>* They decide who can write software for the phones you've bought.<br>* They take a whopping 30\% cut (I've never heard of such a high cut for this kind of service - most download sites are free).<br>* They don't pay you at all if it doesn't hit $250, and that's done on a per "region" basis.</p><p>I've never been an Apple fan, but I had no idea of this.</p><p>If we're going to have Apple stories all day long, why don't we hear some actual important news about them, instead of stories like "OMG Apple are so great, you can now access this website On YoUr IpHoNe, no phone could do that before!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple only pays if you break $ 250 for each regionWTF ?
I mean , never mind the each region bit , even if it was for all regions combined - WTF ?
That 's your money that they 're keeping.So to recap : * They decide who can write software for the phones you 've bought .
* They take a whopping 30 \ % cut ( I 've never heard of such a high cut for this kind of service - most download sites are free ) .
* They do n't pay you at all if it does n't hit $ 250 , and that 's done on a per " region " basis.I 've never been an Apple fan , but I had no idea of this.If we 're going to have Apple stories all day long , why do n't we hear some actual important news about them , instead of stories like " OMG Apple are so great , you can now access this website On YoUr IpHoNe , no phone could do that before !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Apple only pays if you break $250 for each regionWTF?
I mean, never mind the each region bit, even if it was for all regions combined - WTF?
That's your money that they're keeping.So to recap:* They decide who can write software for the phones you've bought.
* They take a whopping 30\% cut (I've never heard of such a high cut for this kind of service - most download sites are free).
* They don't pay you at all if it doesn't hit $250, and that's done on a per "region" basis.I've never been an Apple fan, but I had no idea of this.If we're going to have Apple stories all day long, why don't we hear some actual important news about them, instead of stories like "OMG Apple are so great, you can now access this website On YoUr IpHoNe, no phone could do that before!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751267</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255522200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Animal Chess or "Dou Shou Qi"
<br>Particle Chess is a game based on the rules of Chinese Animal Chess (Dou Shou Qi).</p></div></blockquote><p>
I think I see your problem...
<br> <br>
Seriously, your graphics are fine for a low-price iPhone game. And maybe your code is fantastic. But nobody's trolling the app store for a simple board game they're not familiar with. And if I search for Stratego, only two mediocre-rated games show up.
<br> <br>
Simple games in general are probably dead on the iPhone. There's too many of them. Two under-served genres are, IMO, RPGs and tower defense games. The latter is a popular, fun genre without a lot of decent iPhone implementations. RPGs are currently dominated by the absurdly awful Zynga, who are making games that would be considered primitive by web game developers from 15 years ago. I'm just sayin', code what you want, but if you want it to make money, do a little research first.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Animal Chess or " Dou Shou Qi " Particle Chess is a game based on the rules of Chinese Animal Chess ( Dou Shou Qi ) .
I think I see your problem.. . Seriously , your graphics are fine for a low-price iPhone game .
And maybe your code is fantastic .
But nobody 's trolling the app store for a simple board game they 're not familiar with .
And if I search for Stratego , only two mediocre-rated games show up .
Simple games in general are probably dead on the iPhone .
There 's too many of them .
Two under-served genres are , IMO , RPGs and tower defense games .
The latter is a popular , fun genre without a lot of decent iPhone implementations .
RPGs are currently dominated by the absurdly awful Zynga , who are making games that would be considered primitive by web game developers from 15 years ago .
I 'm just sayin ' , code what you want , but if you want it to make money , do a little research first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Animal Chess or "Dou Shou Qi"
Particle Chess is a game based on the rules of Chinese Animal Chess (Dou Shou Qi).
I think I see your problem...
 
Seriously, your graphics are fine for a low-price iPhone game.
And maybe your code is fantastic.
But nobody's trolling the app store for a simple board game they're not familiar with.
And if I search for Stratego, only two mediocre-rated games show up.
Simple games in general are probably dead on the iPhone.
There's too many of them.
Two under-served genres are, IMO, RPGs and tower defense games.
The latter is a popular, fun genre without a lot of decent iPhone implementations.
RPGs are currently dominated by the absurdly awful Zynga, who are making games that would be considered primitive by web game developers from 15 years ago.
I'm just sayin', code what you want, but if you want it to make money, do a little research first.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750463</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>rjolley</author>
	<datestamp>1255517220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would have bought his app if he mentioned it, instead he posted as AC so I can't even PM him for it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would have bought his app if he mentioned it , instead he posted as AC so I ca n't even PM him for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would have bought his app if he mentioned it, instead he posted as AC so I can't even PM him for it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750217</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255515900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>He didn't get rich quick. Research his shit, he spent a LOT of time and energy on his company.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He did n't get rich quick .
Research his shit , he spent a LOT of time and energy on his company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He didn't get rich quick.
Research his shit, he spent a LOT of time and energy on his company.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749803</id>
	<title>Your official guide to the Jigaboo presidency</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255513920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger! If handled properly, your apeman will give years of valuable, if reluctant, service.</p><p>INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.<br>You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model. Field niggers work best in a serial configuration, i.e. chained together. Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it, and don't even think about taking that chain off, ever. Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them. This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud. House niggers work best as standalone units, but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape. At this stage, your nigger can also be given a name. Most owners use the same names over and over, since niggers become confused by too much data. Rufus, Rastus, Remus, Toby, Carslisle, Carlton, Hey-You!-Yes-you!, Yeller, Blackstar, and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger. If your nigger is a ho, it should be called Latrelle, L'Tanya, or Jemima. Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke. Pearl, Blossom, and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes. These names go straight over your nigger's head, by the way.</p><p>CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGER<br>Owing to a design error, your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords. Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular. However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue. Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least, you won't hear it complaining anywhere near as much. Niggers have nothing interesting to say, anyway. Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons (yours, mine, and that of women, not the nigger's). This is strongly recommended, and frankly, it's a mystery why this is not done on the boat</p><p>HOUSING YOUR NIGGER.<br>Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars. Make sure, however, that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through. The rule of thumb is, four niggers per square yard of cage. So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers. You can site a nigger cage anywhere, even on soft ground. Don't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage. Niggers never invented the shovel before and they're not about to now. In any case, your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape. As long as the free food holds out, your nigger is living better than it did in Africa, so it will stay put. Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage, as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.</p><p>FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.<br>Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and watermelon. You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly doesn't deserve it. Instead, feed it on porridge with salt, and creek water. Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields, other niggers, etc. Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day. Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer, since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives. He reports he doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result. You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work, since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained. You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton. You really would. Coffee beans? Don't ask. You have no idea.</p><p>MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.<br>Niggers are very, very averse to work of any kind. The nigger's most</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger !
If handled properly , your apeman will give years of valuable , if reluctant , service.INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model .
Field niggers work best in a serial configuration , i.e .
chained together .
Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it , and do n't even think about taking that chain off , ever .
Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them .
This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud .
House niggers work best as standalone units , but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape .
At this stage , your nigger can also be given a name .
Most owners use the same names over and over , since niggers become confused by too much data .
Rufus , Rastus , Remus , Toby , Carslisle , Carlton , Hey-You ! -Yes-you ! , Yeller , Blackstar , and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger .
If your nigger is a ho , it should be called Latrelle , L'Tanya , or Jemima .
Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke .
Pearl , Blossom , and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes .
These names go straight over your nigger 's head , by the way.CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGEROwing to a design error , your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords .
Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - " muh dick " being the most popular .
However , others make barking , yelping , yapping noises and appear to be in some pain , so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger 's tongue .
Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least , you wo n't hear it complaining anywhere near as much .
Niggers have nothing interesting to say , anyway .
Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons ( yours , mine , and that of women , not the nigger 's ) .
This is strongly recommended , and frankly , it 's a mystery why this is not done on the boatHOUSING YOUR NIGGER.Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars .
Make sure , however , that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through .
The rule of thumb is , four niggers per square yard of cage .
So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers .
You can site a nigger cage anywhere , even on soft ground .
Do n't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage .
Niggers never invented the shovel before and they 're not about to now .
In any case , your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape .
As long as the free food holds out , your nigger is living better than it did in Africa , so it will stay put .
Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage , as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.Your Nigger likes fried chicken , corn bread , and watermelon .
You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly does n't deserve it .
Instead , feed it on porridge with salt , and creek water .
Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields , other niggers , etc .
Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat , but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day .
Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer , since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives .
He reports he does n't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result .
You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work , since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained .
You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton .
You really would .
Coffee beans ?
Do n't ask .
You have no idea.MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.Niggers are very , very averse to work of any kind .
The nigger 's most</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger!
If handled properly, your apeman will give years of valuable, if reluctant, service.INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model.
Field niggers work best in a serial configuration, i.e.
chained together.
Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it, and don't even think about taking that chain off, ever.
Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them.
This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud.
House niggers work best as standalone units, but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape.
At this stage, your nigger can also be given a name.
Most owners use the same names over and over, since niggers become confused by too much data.
Rufus, Rastus, Remus, Toby, Carslisle, Carlton, Hey-You!-Yes-you!, Yeller, Blackstar, and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger.
If your nigger is a ho, it should be called Latrelle, L'Tanya, or Jemima.
Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke.
Pearl, Blossom, and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes.
These names go straight over your nigger's head, by the way.CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGEROwing to a design error, your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords.
Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular.
However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue.
Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least, you won't hear it complaining anywhere near as much.
Niggers have nothing interesting to say, anyway.
Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons (yours, mine, and that of women, not the nigger's).
This is strongly recommended, and frankly, it's a mystery why this is not done on the boatHOUSING YOUR NIGGER.Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars.
Make sure, however, that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through.
The rule of thumb is, four niggers per square yard of cage.
So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers.
You can site a nigger cage anywhere, even on soft ground.
Don't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage.
Niggers never invented the shovel before and they're not about to now.
In any case, your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape.
As long as the free food holds out, your nigger is living better than it did in Africa, so it will stay put.
Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage, as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and watermelon.
You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly doesn't deserve it.
Instead, feed it on porridge with salt, and creek water.
Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields, other niggers, etc.
Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day.
Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer, since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives.
He reports he doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result.
You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work, since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained.
You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton.
You really would.
Coffee beans?
Don't ask.
You have no idea.MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.Niggers are very, very averse to work of any kind.
The nigger's most</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749999</id>
	<title>WE ARE JOBS !!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255514760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are assimilated, at GROSS $0.99 !!</p><p>Penny stocks BEWARE !!  WE ARE JOBS !!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are assimilated , at GROSS $ 0.99 !
! Penny stocks BEWARE ! !
WE ARE JOBS !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are assimilated, at GROSS $0.99 !
!Penny stocks BEWARE !!
WE ARE JOBS !
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29752825</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>styrotech</author>
	<datestamp>1255534860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do you think it is an either/or thing?</p><p>Obviously nobody is going to succeed on that level without talent, hardwork and insight etc.</p><p>But you'd still need plenty of luck as well. There would've been many 50/50 line calls Bill Gates made early on that only in hindsight turned out to be right or if they were wrong not big enough to sink him. There also could've been many other events or factors outside his control that could've sunk him in those early days too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do you think it is an either/or thing ? Obviously nobody is going to succeed on that level without talent , hardwork and insight etc.But you 'd still need plenty of luck as well .
There would 've been many 50/50 line calls Bill Gates made early on that only in hindsight turned out to be right or if they were wrong not big enough to sink him .
There also could 've been many other events or factors outside his control that could 've sunk him in those early days too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do you think it is an either/or thing?Obviously nobody is going to succeed on that level without talent, hardwork and insight etc.But you'd still need plenty of luck as well.
There would've been many 50/50 line calls Bill Gates made early on that only in hindsight turned out to be right or if they were wrong not big enough to sink him.
There also could've been many other events or factors outside his control that could've sunk him in those early days too.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750099</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>truthsearch</author>
	<datestamp>1255515300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I feel your pain, but to be fair, even if you hit the minimum and were paid $250, that's still not worth 500 hours of work.  Apple may not do enough to promote newer or less popular apps, but it's not completely their fault if the app doesn't sell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I feel your pain , but to be fair , even if you hit the minimum and were paid $ 250 , that 's still not worth 500 hours of work .
Apple may not do enough to promote newer or less popular apps , but it 's not completely their fault if the app does n't sell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I feel your pain, but to be fair, even if you hit the minimum and were paid $250, that's still not worth 500 hours of work.
Apple may not do enough to promote newer or less popular apps, but it's not completely their fault if the app doesn't sell.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750199</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>LDAPMAN</author>
	<datestamp>1255515840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I'm not going to whore the product out by mentioning it here"</p><p>There's your problem right there. Thats the difference between being an entrepreneur and and being just a programmer. If your not going to bother to mention your app...why should Apple.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I 'm not going to whore the product out by mentioning it here " There 's your problem right there .
Thats the difference between being an entrepreneur and and being just a programmer .
If your not going to bother to mention your app...why should Apple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I'm not going to whore the product out by mentioning it here"There's your problem right there.
Thats the difference between being an entrepreneur and and being just a programmer.
If your not going to bother to mention your app...why should Apple.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29752487</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Nithendil</author>
	<datestamp>1255531560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As much as we hate marketing there is a reason for it. I understand why you didn't mention your app, but the difference between your program that makes no money and a similar program that makes thousands of dollars probably has little to do with technical merit but on how it is presented. I don't have an iphone, but if I did, I probably would have checked out your game.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As much as we hate marketing there is a reason for it .
I understand why you did n't mention your app , but the difference between your program that makes no money and a similar program that makes thousands of dollars probably has little to do with technical merit but on how it is presented .
I do n't have an iphone , but if I did , I probably would have checked out your game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As much as we hate marketing there is a reason for it.
I understand why you didn't mention your app, but the difference between your program that makes no money and a similar program that makes thousands of dollars probably has little to do with technical merit but on how it is presented.
I don't have an iphone, but if I did, I probably would have checked out your game.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750521</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>OakDragon</author>
	<datestamp>1255517580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><blockquote><div><p>I'm not going to whore the product out by mentioning it here</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
There's your problem right there. Thats the difference between being an entrepreneur and and being just a programmer. If your not going to bother to mention your app...why should Apple.</p></div>

</blockquote><p>
Given the context of the conversation, I think it would be OK to mention the app... or at least make a signature pointing to it.
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not going to whore the product out by mentioning it here There 's your problem right there .
Thats the difference between being an entrepreneur and and being just a programmer .
If your not going to bother to mention your app...why should Apple .
Given the context of the conversation , I think it would be OK to mention the app... or at least make a signature pointing to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not going to whore the product out by mentioning it here

There's your problem right there.
Thats the difference between being an entrepreneur and and being just a programmer.
If your not going to bother to mention your app...why should Apple.
Given the context of the conversation, I think it would be OK to mention the app... or at least make a signature pointing to it.

	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29752637</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>ajlisows</author>
	<datestamp>1255533000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Luck is probably always involved in some degree, I agree with you there.  However, in order to even get lucky you need to put yourself in a position to reap the benefits.  You'll never get that promotion at work if you show up late and do a shitty job.  You'll never be the one that develops the next "Killer App" if you never develop any software.</p><p>I hear people complain about their bad luck all the time.  "That cop is NEVER there at 3 AM.  The one time I am driving drunk and blow that stop sign he happens to be there and I get a DUI.  I have the worst luck."  "Look at that guy with his awesome wife and children.  I wish I could be that lucky.  Never mind that I had this really great woman that loved me until I decided I just had to poke my cock into that mush for brains, herpes infested slut.  If she hadn't had herpes my girlfriend would have never known. What bad luck." "So I was at work late one night and laid out a line of blow on the bathroom counter.  I thought nobody else was working.  Who walks in?  The President of the company.  Can you believe that bad luck?"</p><p>I think that you will find if you work hard, treat people decent, obey the law, and avoid situations that can get you in trouble whenever possible that you will find yourself to be more "Lucky" than most people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Luck is probably always involved in some degree , I agree with you there .
However , in order to even get lucky you need to put yourself in a position to reap the benefits .
You 'll never get that promotion at work if you show up late and do a shitty job .
You 'll never be the one that develops the next " Killer App " if you never develop any software.I hear people complain about their bad luck all the time .
" That cop is NEVER there at 3 AM .
The one time I am driving drunk and blow that stop sign he happens to be there and I get a DUI .
I have the worst luck .
" " Look at that guy with his awesome wife and children .
I wish I could be that lucky .
Never mind that I had this really great woman that loved me until I decided I just had to poke my cock into that mush for brains , herpes infested slut .
If she had n't had herpes my girlfriend would have never known .
What bad luck .
" " So I was at work late one night and laid out a line of blow on the bathroom counter .
I thought nobody else was working .
Who walks in ?
The President of the company .
Can you believe that bad luck ?
" I think that you will find if you work hard , treat people decent , obey the law , and avoid situations that can get you in trouble whenever possible that you will find yourself to be more " Lucky " than most people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Luck is probably always involved in some degree, I agree with you there.
However, in order to even get lucky you need to put yourself in a position to reap the benefits.
You'll never get that promotion at work if you show up late and do a shitty job.
You'll never be the one that develops the next "Killer App" if you never develop any software.I hear people complain about their bad luck all the time.
"That cop is NEVER there at 3 AM.
The one time I am driving drunk and blow that stop sign he happens to be there and I get a DUI.
I have the worst luck.
"  "Look at that guy with his awesome wife and children.
I wish I could be that lucky.
Never mind that I had this really great woman that loved me until I decided I just had to poke my cock into that mush for brains, herpes infested slut.
If she hadn't had herpes my girlfriend would have never known.
What bad luck.
" "So I was at work late one night and laid out a line of blow on the bathroom counter.
I thought nobody else was working.
Who walks in?
The President of the company.
Can you believe that bad luck?
"I think that you will find if you work hard, treat people decent, obey the law, and avoid situations that can get you in trouble whenever possible that you will find yourself to be more "Lucky" than most people.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750151</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255515600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I logged over 500 hours developing that game and haven't received anything for it. </i></p><p>Well... What's it called?</p><p>I mean obviously if you don't name drop exactly what the game everywhere no one will buy it<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I logged over 500 hours developing that game and have n't received anything for it .
Well... What 's it called ? I mean obviously if you do n't name drop exactly what the game everywhere no one will buy it ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I logged over 500 hours developing that game and haven't received anything for it.
Well... What's it called?I mean obviously if you don't name drop exactly what the game everywhere no one will buy it ;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750647</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>jo42</author>
	<datestamp>1255518480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ask yourself, does anyone know your game even exists among the 99,999 other games on the App Store?</p><p>The App Store's #1 success is also it's #1 failure -- it is frickin' hard to find the golden needle in over 125,000 haystacks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ask yourself , does anyone know your game even exists among the 99,999 other games on the App Store ? The App Store 's # 1 success is also it 's # 1 failure -- it is frickin ' hard to find the golden needle in over 125,000 haystacks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ask yourself, does anyone know your game even exists among the 99,999 other games on the App Store?The App Store's #1 success is also it's #1 failure -- it is frickin' hard to find the golden needle in over 125,000 haystacks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29757679</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255622940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How exactly is it Apple's fault that your game is unpopular?  Just sounds like sour grapes to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How exactly is it Apple 's fault that your game is unpopular ?
Just sounds like sour grapes to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How exactly is it Apple's fault that your game is unpopular?
Just sounds like sour grapes to me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29761423</id>
	<title>It is normal</title>
	<author>pubwvj</author>
	<datestamp>1255639800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Like duh. Most people are not millionaires. Most business owners barely make it. There are only a few thousand developers. No reason to expect more than a few millionaires made from the App Store. In fact, I'm surprised there would even be one after such a short period of time. So, it is a success.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Like duh .
Most people are not millionaires .
Most business owners barely make it .
There are only a few thousand developers .
No reason to expect more than a few millionaires made from the App Store .
In fact , I 'm surprised there would even be one after such a short period of time .
So , it is a success .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like duh.
Most people are not millionaires.
Most business owners barely make it.
There are only a few thousand developers.
No reason to expect more than a few millionaires made from the App Store.
In fact, I'm surprised there would even be one after such a short period of time.
So, it is a success.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29754121</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>mattr</author>
	<datestamp>1255637820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How much of a boost from Slashdot?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How much of a boost from Slashdot ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much of a boost from Slashdot?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29758637</id>
	<title>Re:Perhaps</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1255626960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's see... the publisher seems to be making a lot of money but the "talent" isn't really.</p><p>It's almost as if we've stumbled upon a different variation of the music industry from whence all of the iTunes content comes from.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's see... the publisher seems to be making a lot of money but the " talent " is n't really.It 's almost as if we 've stumbled upon a different variation of the music industry from whence all of the iTunes content comes from .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's see... the publisher seems to be making a lot of money but the "talent" isn't really.It's almost as if we've stumbled upon a different variation of the music industry from whence all of the iTunes content comes from.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29749825</id>
	<title>Re:Perhaps</title>
	<author>Neofluffybunny</author>
	<datestamp>1255513980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He made his money buying Palm low and selling it high. So he's an investor. Personally, I'd spend my time partying in Las Vegas or New York than programming any day. Except Sunday, I've got to rest and play DnD that day...</htmltext>
<tokenext>He made his money buying Palm low and selling it high .
So he 's an investor .
Personally , I 'd spend my time partying in Las Vegas or New York than programming any day .
Except Sunday , I 've got to rest and play DnD that day.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He made his money buying Palm low and selling it high.
So he's an investor.
Personally, I'd spend my time partying in Las Vegas or New York than programming any day.
Except Sunday, I've got to rest and play DnD that day...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29750777</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>shmlco</author>
	<datestamp>1255519200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"...but instead lucky men. Thousands of people could have been in their places and done the same thing..."</p><p>And thousands WERE in their place, and did not. How many people were in the homebrew computer scene at the time? How many dinked around and wrote their own versions of BASIC? How many started their own companies? How many succeeded? How many had the same exact background and opportunities... and did nothing?</p><p>Attributing such to "luck" translates into refusing to take responsibility for your own actions and your own choices. "It's not me, it's luck." "Joe got the promotion and not me, the lucky bastard." And so on, and so on.</p><p>Many people have been at the helm of Apple, and only one has driven it to success. Twice. Is that luck? Would just anyone have made the same choices? Would just anyone have had the same insights? Would just anyone have the same vision and commitment and drive?</p><p>"...if we just think harder, network more, or spend a few more hours in the lab, we'll be successful too. That's bullshit."</p><p>Really? Perhaps someone should have mentioned that to Edison? Who definitely made a success out of spending just a "few more hours in the lab".</p><p>"The best we can do is to pursue opportunities to the utmost when they do appear and make the most of the luck we get in life."</p><p>No, the best you can do is to create your own opportunities, and leave luck, chance, and the vagarities of fate out of the equation altogether.</p><p>But you're not capable of believing that, are you? So go home after work, why don't you? Go home and sit on the couch, or go down to the corner bar. Have a beer, and bitch and moan and complain about how "unlucky" you are. And definitely don't try to "do" anything about it. That's too hard, and with your luck, why bother?</p><p>Actually, you're half right. For you, it is luck, because in this case the prophecy is definitely self-fullfilling.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" ...but instead lucky men .
Thousands of people could have been in their places and done the same thing... " And thousands WERE in their place , and did not .
How many people were in the homebrew computer scene at the time ?
How many dinked around and wrote their own versions of BASIC ?
How many started their own companies ?
How many succeeded ?
How many had the same exact background and opportunities... and did nothing ? Attributing such to " luck " translates into refusing to take responsibility for your own actions and your own choices .
" It 's not me , it 's luck .
" " Joe got the promotion and not me , the lucky bastard .
" And so on , and so on.Many people have been at the helm of Apple , and only one has driven it to success .
Twice. Is that luck ?
Would just anyone have made the same choices ?
Would just anyone have had the same insights ?
Would just anyone have the same vision and commitment and drive ?
" ...if we just think harder , network more , or spend a few more hours in the lab , we 'll be successful too .
That 's bullshit. " Really ?
Perhaps someone should have mentioned that to Edison ?
Who definitely made a success out of spending just a " few more hours in the lab " .
" The best we can do is to pursue opportunities to the utmost when they do appear and make the most of the luck we get in life .
" No , the best you can do is to create your own opportunities , and leave luck , chance , and the vagarities of fate out of the equation altogether.But you 're not capable of believing that , are you ?
So go home after work , why do n't you ?
Go home and sit on the couch , or go down to the corner bar .
Have a beer , and bitch and moan and complain about how " unlucky " you are .
And definitely do n't try to " do " anything about it .
That 's too hard , and with your luck , why bother ? Actually , you 're half right .
For you , it is luck , because in this case the prophecy is definitely self-fullfilling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"...but instead lucky men.
Thousands of people could have been in their places and done the same thing..."And thousands WERE in their place, and did not.
How many people were in the homebrew computer scene at the time?
How many dinked around and wrote their own versions of BASIC?
How many started their own companies?
How many succeeded?
How many had the same exact background and opportunities... and did nothing?Attributing such to "luck" translates into refusing to take responsibility for your own actions and your own choices.
"It's not me, it's luck.
" "Joe got the promotion and not me, the lucky bastard.
" And so on, and so on.Many people have been at the helm of Apple, and only one has driven it to success.
Twice. Is that luck?
Would just anyone have made the same choices?
Would just anyone have had the same insights?
Would just anyone have the same vision and commitment and drive?
"...if we just think harder, network more, or spend a few more hours in the lab, we'll be successful too.
That's bullshit."Really?
Perhaps someone should have mentioned that to Edison?
Who definitely made a success out of spending just a "few more hours in the lab".
"The best we can do is to pursue opportunities to the utmost when they do appear and make the most of the luck we get in life.
"No, the best you can do is to create your own opportunities, and leave luck, chance, and the vagarities of fate out of the equation altogether.But you're not capable of believing that, are you?
So go home after work, why don't you?
Go home and sit on the couch, or go down to the corner bar.
Have a beer, and bitch and moan and complain about how "unlucky" you are.
And definitely don't try to "do" anything about it.
That's too hard, and with your luck, why bother?Actually, you're half right.
For you, it is luck, because in this case the prophecy is definitely self-fullfilling.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29752683</id>
	<title>Re:The road to richess passes through Marketing</title>
	<author>R3d M3rcury</author>
	<datestamp>1255533480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The little band of freelancers I work with have produce two games. One for ourselves. It was really very good, which bombed at the store. We've sold just a few hundred. We're small, we don't have a marketing budget.</p></div><p>Okay.  There's your first problem.</p><p>Guess what?  You may have the best products in the world.  But if nobody knows about them, you're going to fail.</p><p>If you're an Apple fan, consider the Mac.  It may be the best personal computer out there.  But if Apple didn't advertise, nobody would know about it.</p><p>In fact, just to get a little snarky, if you're a small company everybody has to wear multiple hats.  That includes marketing.  I'm surprised you didn't mention the name of your App, after speaking highly of it.  Consider the audience that's reading your post:  Technically inclined.  Likely to own an iPhone or an iPod touch.  Why aren't you wearing your marketing hat and, at least, mentioning the name of the game?!</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The next game we bade [sic] was honestly no very fun. It was okay, not complete crap, but not great. It's been in the top 50 for several weeks.  What's the difference? That second game was done for a Major Developer who was able to spend 20x as much on marketing as development.</p></div><p>Gee, think there might be a link there between the success of a product and the amount of time and effort spent promoting it?</p><p>It was a weak game and is on the Top 50 list?  Imagine how well a <i>very good</i> game like, say, yours would do if only you decide to <i>invest</i> some money into marketing it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The little band of freelancers I work with have produce two games .
One for ourselves .
It was really very good , which bombed at the store .
We 've sold just a few hundred .
We 're small , we do n't have a marketing budget.Okay .
There 's your first problem.Guess what ?
You may have the best products in the world .
But if nobody knows about them , you 're going to fail.If you 're an Apple fan , consider the Mac .
It may be the best personal computer out there .
But if Apple did n't advertise , nobody would know about it.In fact , just to get a little snarky , if you 're a small company everybody has to wear multiple hats .
That includes marketing .
I 'm surprised you did n't mention the name of your App , after speaking highly of it .
Consider the audience that 's reading your post : Technically inclined .
Likely to own an iPhone or an iPod touch .
Why are n't you wearing your marketing hat and , at least , mentioning the name of the game ?
! The next game we bade [ sic ] was honestly no very fun .
It was okay , not complete crap , but not great .
It 's been in the top 50 for several weeks .
What 's the difference ?
That second game was done for a Major Developer who was able to spend 20x as much on marketing as development.Gee , think there might be a link there between the success of a product and the amount of time and effort spent promoting it ? It was a weak game and is on the Top 50 list ?
Imagine how well a very good game like , say , yours would do if only you decide to invest some money into marketing it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The little band of freelancers I work with have produce two games.
One for ourselves.
It was really very good, which bombed at the store.
We've sold just a few hundred.
We're small, we don't have a marketing budget.Okay.
There's your first problem.Guess what?
You may have the best products in the world.
But if nobody knows about them, you're going to fail.If you're an Apple fan, consider the Mac.
It may be the best personal computer out there.
But if Apple didn't advertise, nobody would know about it.In fact, just to get a little snarky, if you're a small company everybody has to wear multiple hats.
That includes marketing.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the name of your App, after speaking highly of it.
Consider the audience that's reading your post:  Technically inclined.
Likely to own an iPhone or an iPod touch.
Why aren't you wearing your marketing hat and, at least, mentioning the name of the game?
!The next game we bade [sic] was honestly no very fun.
It was okay, not complete crap, but not great.
It's been in the top 50 for several weeks.
What's the difference?
That second game was done for a Major Developer who was able to spend 20x as much on marketing as development.Gee, think there might be a link there between the success of a product and the amount of time and effort spent promoting it?It was a weak game and is on the Top 50 list?
Imagine how well a very good game like, say, yours would do if only you decide to invest some money into marketing it.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29752823</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>MobileTatsu-NJG</author>
	<datestamp>1255534800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"I'm not going to whore the product out by mentioning it here"</p><p>There's your problem right there. Thats the difference between being an entrepreneur and and being just a programmer. If your not going to bother to mention your app...why should Apple.</p></div><p>I think that's a bit harsh.  The people on this site have a way of coming down on people who appear to be 'shilling'.  That and the "I wrote an iPhone app" bit are two very good ways to get jumped on and modded to heck on this site.</p><p>I don't blame the guy for not wanting to draw Slashdot's fire.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" I 'm not going to whore the product out by mentioning it here " There 's your problem right there .
Thats the difference between being an entrepreneur and and being just a programmer .
If your not going to bother to mention your app...why should Apple.I think that 's a bit harsh .
The people on this site have a way of coming down on people who appear to be 'shilling' .
That and the " I wrote an iPhone app " bit are two very good ways to get jumped on and modded to heck on this site.I do n't blame the guy for not wanting to draw Slashdot 's fire .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I'm not going to whore the product out by mentioning it here"There's your problem right there.
Thats the difference between being an entrepreneur and and being just a programmer.
If your not going to bother to mention your app...why should Apple.I think that's a bit harsh.
The people on this site have a way of coming down on people who appear to be 'shilling'.
That and the "I wrote an iPhone app" bit are two very good ways to get jumped on and modded to heck on this site.I don't blame the guy for not wanting to draw Slashdot's fire.
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	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Gilmoure</author>
	<datestamp>1255620600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tim's mom was not on the United Way board with the IBM vp in charge of their personal computer project.</p><p>Also, Tim's dad was not an lawyer specializing in intellectual property issues and didn't advise him against selling his software out right and instead, just licensing it to IBM and retaining the rights to license it to other companies as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tim 's mom was not on the United Way board with the IBM vp in charge of their personal computer project.Also , Tim 's dad was not an lawyer specializing in intellectual property issues and did n't advise him against selling his software out right and instead , just licensing it to IBM and retaining the rights to license it to other companies as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tim's mom was not on the United Way board with the IBM vp in charge of their personal computer project.Also, Tim's dad was not an lawyer specializing in intellectual property issues and didn't advise him against selling his software out right and instead, just licensing it to IBM and retaining the rights to license it to other companies as well.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_10_14_2015232.29751165</id>
	<title>Re:Another shocker</title>
	<author>Sir\_Lewk</author>
	<datestamp>1255521480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A million people could had the idea of mass producing cars, figured out a^2+b^2=c^2, or thought up special relativity.  Innovation and insight always seems obvious after the fact but, as much as many people don't want to admit it, rarely can you really describe these events as just "luck".</p><p>A few years ago, when describing special relativity my physics professor said something to the effect of <i>"This is really simple, the basic premise of this is not hard to grasp and thousands of people could have done this.  However none of them did except <b>one man</b>.  Brillance is being able to figure out the seemingly obvious stuff that nobody else can."</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A million people could had the idea of mass producing cars , figured out a ^ 2 + b ^ 2 = c ^ 2 , or thought up special relativity .
Innovation and insight always seems obvious after the fact but , as much as many people do n't want to admit it , rarely can you really describe these events as just " luck " .A few years ago , when describing special relativity my physics professor said something to the effect of " This is really simple , the basic premise of this is not hard to grasp and thousands of people could have done this .
However none of them did except one man .
Brillance is being able to figure out the seemingly obvious stuff that nobody else can .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A million people could had the idea of mass producing cars, figured out a^2+b^2=c^2, or thought up special relativity.
Innovation and insight always seems obvious after the fact but, as much as many people don't want to admit it, rarely can you really describe these events as just "luck".A few years ago, when describing special relativity my physics professor said something to the effect of "This is really simple, the basic premise of this is not hard to grasp and thousands of people could have done this.
However none of them did except one man.
Brillance is being able to figure out the seemingly obvious stuff that nobody else can.
"</sentencetext>
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