<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_07_15_2050215</id>
	<title>Software Glitch Leads To $23,148,855,308,184,500 Visa Charges</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1247648760000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Hmmm2000 writes <i>"Recently several Visa card holders were, um, overcharged for certain purchases, to the tune of <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/15/quadrillion.dollar.glitch/index.html">$23,148,855,308,184,500.00 on a single charge</a>. The company says it was due to a programming error, and that the problem has been corrected.  What is interesting is that the amount charged actually reveals the type of programming error that caused the problem. 23,148,855,308,184,500.00  * 100  (I'm guessing this is how the number is actually stored) is 2314885530818450000. Convert 2314885530818450000 to hexadecimal, and you end up with 20 20 20 20 20 20 12 50. Most C/C++ programmers see the error now ... hex 20 is a space.  So spaces were stuffed into a field where binary zero should have been."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm2000 writes " Recently several Visa card holders were , um , overcharged for certain purchases , to the tune of $ 23,148,855,308,184,500.00 on a single charge .
The company says it was due to a programming error , and that the problem has been corrected .
What is interesting is that the amount charged actually reveals the type of programming error that caused the problem .
23,148,855,308,184,500.00 * 100 ( I 'm guessing this is how the number is actually stored ) is 2314885530818450000 .
Convert 2314885530818450000 to hexadecimal , and you end up with 20 20 20 20 20 20 12 50 .
Most C/C + + programmers see the error now ... hex 20 is a space .
So spaces were stuffed into a field where binary zero should have been .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm2000 writes "Recently several Visa card holders were, um, overcharged for certain purchases, to the tune of $23,148,855,308,184,500.00 on a single charge.
The company says it was due to a programming error, and that the problem has been corrected.
What is interesting is that the amount charged actually reveals the type of programming error that caused the problem.
23,148,855,308,184,500.00  * 100  (I'm guessing this is how the number is actually stored) is 2314885530818450000.
Convert 2314885530818450000 to hexadecimal, and you end up with 20 20 20 20 20 20 12 50.
Most C/C++ programmers see the error now ... hex 20 is a space.
So spaces were stuffed into a field where binary zero should have been.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708595</id>
	<title>oblig...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247653860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I always mess up some mundane detail<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</htmltext>
<tokenext>I always mess up some mundane detail : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always mess up some mundane detail :(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709075</id>
	<title>&#226;75,-</title>
	<author>stoffel</author>
	<datestamp>1247655840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>23 quadrillion is like 75 euro's these days..</p><p>I can handle that!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>23 quadrillion is like 75 euro 's these days..I can handle that !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>23 quadrillion is like 75 euro's these days..I can handle that!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708525</id>
	<title>C/C++ programmers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247653500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am ruby programmer so i didn't understand what caused those numbers. somebody please explain.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am ruby programmer so i did n't understand what caused those numbers .
somebody please explain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am ruby programmer so i didn't understand what caused those numbers.
somebody please explain.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708937</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>An Onerous Coward</author>
	<datestamp>1247655360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you contemplated the possibility that maybe, just maybe, this guy was just cracking wise to the reporter?</p><p>"Can I buy Europe on pump 4?"  That doesn't really sound like a guy who was taking the bill seriously.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you contemplated the possibility that maybe , just maybe , this guy was just cracking wise to the reporter ?
" Can I buy Europe on pump 4 ?
" That does n't really sound like a guy who was taking the bill seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you contemplated the possibility that maybe, just maybe, this guy was just cracking wise to the reporter?
"Can I buy Europe on pump 4?
"  That doesn't really sound like a guy who was taking the bill seriously.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28713827</id>
	<title>Most C/C++ programmers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247735580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why should a C programmer know what ASCII is in hex? Am I missing something or are you doing web pages instead of system programming in C?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why should a C programmer know what ASCII is in hex ?
Am I missing something or are you doing web pages instead of system programming in C ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why should a C programmer know what ASCII is in hex?
Am I missing something or are you doing web pages instead of system programming in C?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708855</id>
	<title>What's his credit limit?</title>
	<author>Joce640k</author>
	<datestamp>1247655120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If he can be charged that much, what's his credit limit?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If he can be charged that much , what 's his credit limit ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If he can be charged that much, what's his credit limit?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708549</id>
	<title>It's a Trap!</title>
	<author>Leafheart</author>
	<datestamp>1247653620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Leave, now!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Leave , now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Leave, now!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710471</id>
	<title>taxes?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247662740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does the purchase qualify for sales tax? The Govt would like to pay off the national debt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does the purchase qualify for sales tax ?
The Govt would like to pay off the national debt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does the purchase qualify for sales tax?
The Govt would like to pay off the national debt.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711899</id>
	<title>Re:C/C++ programmers</title>
	<author>kamatsu</author>
	<datestamp>1247673180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well done, except you can quite easily manipulate the numerical values of characters in ruby.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well done , except you can quite easily manipulate the numerical values of characters in ruby .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well done, except you can quite easily manipulate the numerical values of characters in ruby.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708525</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28712089</id>
	<title>No one will get this, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247674800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://thisamericanlife.org/Radio\_Episode.aspx?sched=1294" title="thisamericanlife.org" rel="nofollow">from here</a> [thisamericanlife.org] [act 1, part way through].</p><p>You made a bad purchase. Now, <i>do the right thing</i>, and pay what you owe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>from here [ thisamericanlife.org ] [ act 1 , part way through ] .You made a bad purchase .
Now , do the right thing , and pay what you owe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>from here [thisamericanlife.org] [act 1, part way through].You made a bad purchase.
Now, do the right thing, and pay what you owe.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708417</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711025</id>
	<title>The really bad thing here is:</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1247666760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All the transaction errors that weren't so obvious, and where the card owner ended up paying it, because he could not afford defending himself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All the transaction errors that were n't so obvious , and where the card owner ended up paying it , because he could not afford defending himself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All the transaction errors that weren't so obvious, and where the card owner ended up paying it, because he could not afford defending himself.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28720083</id>
	<title>looks like someone forgot to trim</title>
	<author>josepha48</author>
	<datestamp>1247771340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It looks to me like someone forgot to ltrim the value they had stored.  I get why they used a varchar to store the data.  I think most programmers here do.  What I don't get is why they would assume a number coming from a varchar would not have leading spaced or trailing spaces for that matter.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks to me like someone forgot to ltrim the value they had stored .
I get why they used a varchar to store the data .
I think most programmers here do .
What I do n't get is why they would assume a number coming from a varchar would not have leading spaced or trailing spaces for that matter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks to me like someone forgot to ltrim the value they had stored.
I get why they used a varchar to store the data.
I think most programmers here do.
What I don't get is why they would assume a number coming from a varchar would not have leading spaced or trailing spaces for that matter.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708627</id>
	<title>Re:Yeeeaaaaahh...</title>
	<author>ral8158</author>
	<datestamp>1247653980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's because no customers who would benefit from something like this would want to publicize the error, and lose their ill-gotten gains.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's because no customers who would benefit from something like this would want to publicize the error , and lose their ill-gotten gains .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's because no customers who would benefit from something like this would want to publicize the error, and lose their ill-gotten gains.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708523</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28714101</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing to see here, keep moving along please..</title>
	<author>dkf</author>
	<datestamp>1247739060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Please, I know data should never IPL a system.</p></div><p>Could you expand that abbreviation? I don't recognize it and none of the definitions that Google offers up make that much sense. (How do you "Indian Premier League" a system anyway?)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Please , I know data should never IPL a system.Could you expand that abbreviation ?
I do n't recognize it and none of the definitions that Google offers up make that much sense .
( How do you " Indian Premier League " a system anyway ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please, I know data should never IPL a system.Could you expand that abbreviation?
I don't recognize it and none of the definitions that Google offers up make that much sense.
(How do you "Indian Premier League" a system anyway?
)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708809</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708697</id>
	<title>triggered an overlimit fee, as I recall</title>
	<author>StandardDeviant</author>
	<datestamp>1247654340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I saw this earlier on another site which included a screen-cap, wherein there was a $20 Negative Balance Fee shown after the huge erroneous charge, so it would seem that it did trigger issues on the business logic level.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I saw this earlier on another site which included a screen-cap , wherein there was a $ 20 Negative Balance Fee shown after the huge erroneous charge , so it would seem that it did trigger issues on the business logic level .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I saw this earlier on another site which included a screen-cap, wherein there was a $20 Negative Balance Fee shown after the huge erroneous charge, so it would seem that it did trigger issues on the business logic level.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708485</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709165</id>
	<title>Sounds like Red Dwarf</title>
	<author>Ainu</author>
	<datestamp>1247656200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Holly:  Busy, Dave?<br>Lister: Well, yeah.  I am, actually.<br>Holly:  Oh, then you won't want to know about the two super-lightspeed<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; fighters that are tracking us.<br>Lister: What?!<br>Holly:  I'll leave you to your bubble blowing, mate.<br>Lister: No, Hol, come on, come on.<br>Holly:  They're from Earth.<br>Lister: Three million years away?<br>Holly:  They're from the NorWEB federation.<br>Lister: What's that?<br>Holly:  The North Western Electricity Board.  They want you, Dave.<br>Lister: Me?  Why?  What for?<br>Holly:  For your crimes against humanity.<br>Lister: You what!<br>Holly:  It seems when you left Earth three million years ago, you<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; left two half-eaten German sausages on a plate in your<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; kitchen.<br>Lister: Did I?<br>Holly:  You know what happens to sausages left unattended for<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; three million years?<br>Lister: Yeah.  They go all mouldy.<br>Holly:  Your sausages, Dave, now cover seven-eighths of the Earth's<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; surface.  Also you left seventeen pounds, fifty pence in a<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; bank account.  Thanks to compound interest you now own<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ninety-eight percent of all the world's wealth, but since<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; you've hoarded it for three million years nobody's got any<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; money except for you and NorWEB.<br>Lister: Why NorWEB?<br>Holly:  You left a light on in the bathroom.  I've got a final demand<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; here for one hundred and eighty billion pounds.<br>Lister: A hundred and eighty billion pounds!  You're kidding!<br>Holly:  (wearing Groucho Marx disguise) April fool.<br>Lister: But it's not April.<br>Holly:  Yeah, I know, but I could hardly wait six months with a red-hot<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; jape like that under my belt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Holly : Busy , Dave ? Lister : Well , yeah .
I am , actually.Holly : Oh , then you wo n't want to know about the two super-lightspeed                 fighters that are tracking us.Lister : What ?
! Holly : I 'll leave you to your bubble blowing , mate.Lister : No , Hol , come on , come on.Holly : They 're from Earth.Lister : Three million years away ? Holly : They 're from the NorWEB federation.Lister : What 's that ? Holly : The North Western Electricity Board .
They want you , Dave.Lister : Me ?
Why ? What for ? Holly : For your crimes against humanity.Lister : You what ! Holly : It seems when you left Earth three million years ago , you                 left two half-eaten German sausages on a plate in your                 kitchen.Lister : Did I ? Holly : You know what happens to sausages left unattended for                 three million years ? Lister : Yeah .
They go all mouldy.Holly : Your sausages , Dave , now cover seven-eighths of the Earth 's                 surface .
Also you left seventeen pounds , fifty pence in a                 bank account .
Thanks to compound interest you now own                 ninety-eight percent of all the world 's wealth , but since                 you 've hoarded it for three million years nobody 's got any                 money except for you and NorWEB.Lister : Why NorWEB ? Holly : You left a light on in the bathroom .
I 've got a final demand                 here for one hundred and eighty billion pounds.Lister : A hundred and eighty billion pounds !
You 're kidding ! Holly : ( wearing Groucho Marx disguise ) April fool.Lister : But it 's not April.Holly : Yeah , I know , but I could hardly wait six months with a red-hot                 jape like that under my belt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Holly:  Busy, Dave?Lister: Well, yeah.
I am, actually.Holly:  Oh, then you won't want to know about the two super-lightspeed
                fighters that are tracking us.Lister: What?
!Holly:  I'll leave you to your bubble blowing, mate.Lister: No, Hol, come on, come on.Holly:  They're from Earth.Lister: Three million years away?Holly:  They're from the NorWEB federation.Lister: What's that?Holly:  The North Western Electricity Board.
They want you, Dave.Lister: Me?
Why?  What for?Holly:  For your crimes against humanity.Lister: You what!Holly:  It seems when you left Earth three million years ago, you
                left two half-eaten German sausages on a plate in your
                kitchen.Lister: Did I?Holly:  You know what happens to sausages left unattended for
                three million years?Lister: Yeah.
They go all mouldy.Holly:  Your sausages, Dave, now cover seven-eighths of the Earth's
                surface.
Also you left seventeen pounds, fifty pence in a
                bank account.
Thanks to compound interest you now own
                ninety-eight percent of all the world's wealth, but since
                you've hoarded it for three million years nobody's got any
                money except for you and NorWEB.Lister: Why NorWEB?Holly:  You left a light on in the bathroom.
I've got a final demand
                here for one hundred and eighty billion pounds.Lister: A hundred and eighty billion pounds!
You're kidding!Holly:  (wearing Groucho Marx disguise) April fool.Lister: But it's not April.Holly:  Yeah, I know, but I could hardly wait six months with a red-hot
                jape like that under my belt.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708559</id>
	<title>Okay.  The spaces make sense...</title>
	<author>91degrees</author>
	<datestamp>1247653680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But that 12 50 seems a little odd.  That would be either "[DLE] P", or $46.88 which seems a lot for a packet of cigs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But that 12 50 seems a little odd .
That would be either " [ DLE ] P " , or $ 46.88 which seems a lot for a packet of cigs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But that 12 50 seems a little odd.
That would be either "[DLE] P", or $46.88 which seems a lot for a packet of cigs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28712099</id>
	<title>Re:64 bit charge amounts?</title>
	<author>glitch23</author>
	<datestamp>1247674860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What's really strange is they're using 64 bits to express a charge amount. How many people are charging manned missions to Mars or the military invasion of a superpower to their Visa? A 64 bit credit limit must be quite the status symbol.</p></div><p>They are simply preparing for Obama to sign up the U.S. for a line of credit. 64 bits still may not be enough to hold the balance though. The only way to make money by spending money is when you use the credit cards that offer cash back. Of course you don't actually net anything with those award programs but Obama doesn't seem to realize that. I thought we already got the idiot out of office?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's really strange is they 're using 64 bits to express a charge amount .
How many people are charging manned missions to Mars or the military invasion of a superpower to their Visa ?
A 64 bit credit limit must be quite the status symbol.They are simply preparing for Obama to sign up the U.S. for a line of credit .
64 bits still may not be enough to hold the balance though .
The only way to make money by spending money is when you use the credit cards that offer cash back .
Of course you do n't actually net anything with those award programs but Obama does n't seem to realize that .
I thought we already got the idiot out of office ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's really strange is they're using 64 bits to express a charge amount.
How many people are charging manned missions to Mars or the military invasion of a superpower to their Visa?
A 64 bit credit limit must be quite the status symbol.They are simply preparing for Obama to sign up the U.S. for a line of credit.
64 bits still may not be enough to hold the balance though.
The only way to make money by spending money is when you use the credit cards that offer cash back.
Of course you don't actually net anything with those award programs but Obama doesn't seem to realize that.
I thought we already got the idiot out of office?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709375</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28720199</id>
	<title>Sweet</title>
	<author>Impy the Impiuos Imp</author>
	<datestamp>1247771760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Recently several Visa card holders were, um, overcharged for certain<br>&gt; purchases, to the tune of $23,148,855,308,184,500.00 on a single charge</p><p>$23 quadrillion and change, eh?</p><p>"When the customers called the 800 help number, they were directed to "just pay it for now" and eventually they'd be credited with the amount.  When one pointed out this was roughly a thousand times the cost of everything on Earth, they were transferred to the installments department."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Recently several Visa card holders were , um , overcharged for certain &gt; purchases , to the tune of $ 23,148,855,308,184,500.00 on a single charge $ 23 quadrillion and change , eh ?
" When the customers called the 800 help number , they were directed to " just pay it for now " and eventually they 'd be credited with the amount .
When one pointed out this was roughly a thousand times the cost of everything on Earth , they were transferred to the installments department .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Recently several Visa card holders were, um, overcharged for certain&gt; purchases, to the tune of $23,148,855,308,184,500.00 on a single charge$23 quadrillion and change, eh?
"When the customers called the 800 help number, they were directed to "just pay it for now" and eventually they'd be credited with the amount.
When one pointed out this was roughly a thousand times the cost of everything on Earth, they were transferred to the installments department.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708611</id>
	<title>Re:Yeeeaaaaahh...</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1247653920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your biased.<br>Look it up, there ahve been many glitches on both sides of the fence. People getting account credited with too much money, checks getting sent for 100million times the amount that should actually be made.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your biased.Look it up , there ahve been many glitches on both sides of the fence .
People getting account credited with too much money , checks getting sent for 100million times the amount that should actually be made .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your biased.Look it up, there ahve been many glitches on both sides of the fence.
People getting account credited with too much money, checks getting sent for 100million times the amount that should actually be made.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708523</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709011</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>nizo</author>
	<datestamp>1247655600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly; I figure the response should be equal to the error. Not only could I get quite a bit of scream therapy with the operator working off that kinda money, but my great great grandkids could too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly ; I figure the response should be equal to the error .
Not only could I get quite a bit of scream therapy with the operator working off that kinda money , but my great great grandkids could too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly; I figure the response should be equal to the error.
Not only could I get quite a bit of scream therapy with the operator working off that kinda money, but my great great grandkids could too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709265</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1247656680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>For fuck's sake, people, the credit card guys haven't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet, and this guy thinks that it is already on the books?</p></div><p>Yet, I agree.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For fuck 's sake , people , the credit card guys have n't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet , and this guy thinks that it is already on the books ? Yet , I agree .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For fuck's sake, people, the credit card guys haven't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet, and this guy thinks that it is already on the books?Yet, I agree.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711389</id>
	<title>Re:Not an error</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247669400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He's going to come up short.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's going to come up short .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's going to come up short.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708401</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710251</id>
	<title>Re:reassuring...</title>
	<author>noname444</author>
	<datestamp>1247661780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I'm signing my next VISA receipt It'll look something like this:</p><p>1 Guinness<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... $5</p><p>Total<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.............. $5</p><p>Tip:<br>$ 2^63</p><p>Sign here</p><p>\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I 'm signing my next VISA receipt It 'll look something like this : 1 Guinness .... $ 5Total .............. $ 5Tip : $ 2 ^ 63Sign here \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I'm signing my next VISA receipt It'll look something like this:1 Guinness .... $5Total .............. $5Tip:$ 2^63Sign here\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708737</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708737</id>
	<title>reassuring...</title>
	<author>Dahamma</author>
	<datestamp>1247654580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's good to know their system is able to handle $23 quadrillion charges, now I just need to get them to raise my limit a bit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's good to know their system is able to handle $ 23 quadrillion charges , now I just need to get them to raise my limit a bit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's good to know their system is able to handle $23 quadrillion charges, now I just need to get them to raise my limit a bit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710127</id>
	<title>Re:At least it wasn't EBCDIC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247660940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But what if you had a Dvorak keyboard?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But what if you had a Dvorak keyboard ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But what if you had a Dvorak keyboard?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708361</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710845</id>
	<title>Re:Extremely speculative.</title>
	<author>rdoger6424</author>
	<datestamp>1247665200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But Visa card numbers start with 4</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But Visa card numbers start with 4</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But Visa card numbers start with 4</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708875</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708485</id>
	<title>What is truly appalling...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247653320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...is that this was not caught by validity checks.  Was this perhaps an error that affected only the printing of the statement?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...is that this was not caught by validity checks .
Was this perhaps an error that affected only the printing of the statement ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...is that this was not caught by validity checks.
Was this perhaps an error that affected only the printing of the statement?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708415</id>
	<title>What about Unicode?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247653020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>dang programmers still using ANSI/ASCII. They should have stuffed 20 00 in there (Unicode). Or depending on processor type (big-endian vs. little-endian) that could be 00 20. But still, just 20 20 20 shows they are using ASCII.</htmltext>
<tokenext>dang programmers still using ANSI/ASCII .
They should have stuffed 20 00 in there ( Unicode ) .
Or depending on processor type ( big-endian vs. little-endian ) that could be 00 20 .
But still , just 20 20 20 shows they are using ASCII .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>dang programmers still using ANSI/ASCII.
They should have stuffed 20 00 in there (Unicode).
Or depending on processor type (big-endian vs. little-endian) that could be 00 20.
But still, just 20 20 20 shows they are using ASCII.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709647</id>
	<title>Re:Yeeeaaaaahh...</title>
	<author>billcopc</author>
	<datestamp>1247658420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Simple explanation:</p><p>When the error favours the company, it's an error and it gets fixed, apologies are issued and everything goes back to normal.</p><p>When the error favours the customer, accusations of fraud are floated and the small guy is threatened into returning the money, plus a lifetime NDA with stiff penalties.</p><p>It's all about PR.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Simple explanation : When the error favours the company , it 's an error and it gets fixed , apologies are issued and everything goes back to normal.When the error favours the customer , accusations of fraud are floated and the small guy is threatened into returning the money , plus a lifetime NDA with stiff penalties.It 's all about PR .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Simple explanation:When the error favours the company, it's an error and it gets fixed, apologies are issued and everything goes back to normal.When the error favours the customer, accusations of fraud are floated and the small guy is threatened into returning the money, plus a lifetime NDA with stiff penalties.It's all about PR.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708523</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708401</id>
	<title>Not an error</title>
	<author>ArsonSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1247652900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is how Obama is paying for health care.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is how Obama is paying for health care .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is how Obama is paying for health care.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28714429</id>
	<title>Re:What is truly appalling...</title>
	<author>ciantic</author>
	<datestamp>1247743560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>...is that this was not caught by validity checks.  Was this perhaps an error that affected only the printing of the statement?</p></div><p>From the article "... and the $15 overdraft fee<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...", this means the system knew that it went to negative. So I suspect not.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...is that this was not caught by validity checks .
Was this perhaps an error that affected only the printing of the statement ? From the article " ... and the $ 15 overdraft fee ... " , this means the system knew that it went to negative .
So I suspect not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...is that this was not caught by validity checks.
Was this perhaps an error that affected only the printing of the statement?From the article "... and the $15 overdraft fee ...", this means the system knew that it went to negative.
So I suspect not.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708485</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711237</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>anaesthetica</author>
	<datestamp>1247668260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>For fuck's sake, people, the credit card guys haven't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet, and this guy thinks that it is already on the books?</i></p></div> </blockquote><p>It's already on the books, and has been since Elizabethan England.  It's starting to be enforced again, at least <a href="http://www.philly.com/inquirer/columnists/monica\_yant\_kinney/50551612.html" title="philly.com">it is in Pennsylvania</a> [philly.com].</p><blockquote><div><p>The law can force adult children to pay their parents' health-care costs. If Mom and Pop can't pay, you pay. If they have the money but refuse to pay, you pay. If you don't, watch your credit rating sink under the weight of a legal judgment that will haunt you for life.</p></div></blockquote><p>Don't think debt collectors won't try every possible method to squeeze your money out of you and your family for as long as it takes.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For fuck 's sake , people , the credit card guys have n't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet , and this guy thinks that it is already on the books ?
It 's already on the books , and has been since Elizabethan England .
It 's starting to be enforced again , at least it is in Pennsylvania [ philly.com ] .The law can force adult children to pay their parents ' health-care costs .
If Mom and Pop ca n't pay , you pay .
If they have the money but refuse to pay , you pay .
If you do n't , watch your credit rating sink under the weight of a legal judgment that will haunt you for life.Do n't think debt collectors wo n't try every possible method to squeeze your money out of you and your family for as long as it takes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> For fuck's sake, people, the credit card guys haven't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet, and this guy thinks that it is already on the books?
It's already on the books, and has been since Elizabethan England.
It's starting to be enforced again, at least it is in Pennsylvania [philly.com].The law can force adult children to pay their parents' health-care costs.
If Mom and Pop can't pay, you pay.
If they have the money but refuse to pay, you pay.
If you don't, watch your credit rating sink under the weight of a legal judgment that will haunt you for life.Don't think debt collectors won't try every possible method to squeeze your money out of you and your family for as long as it takes.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708517</id>
	<title>Illuminating answer on Stack Overflow</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1247653440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1133581/is-23-148-855-308-184-500-a-magic-number-or-sheer-chance/1133612#1133612" title="stackoverflow.com" rel="nofollow">It was probably partly overwritten by spaces</a> [stackoverflow.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was probably partly overwritten by spaces [ stackoverflow.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was probably partly overwritten by spaces [stackoverflow.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28713625</id>
	<title>Re:Extremely speculative.</title>
	<author>Ihlosi</author>
	<datestamp>1247776560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Like the speculation that somewhere within Visa's accounting system, they store currency transactions as 8 byte integers, completely disregarding any fractional money.</i> <p>

Fixed point arithmetics. Ever heard of it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Like the speculation that somewhere within Visa 's accounting system , they store currency transactions as 8 byte integers , completely disregarding any fractional money .
Fixed point arithmetics .
Ever heard of it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like the speculation that somewhere within Visa's accounting system, they store currency transactions as 8 byte integers, completely disregarding any fractional money.
Fixed point arithmetics.
Ever heard of it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709193</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28717587</id>
	<title>Re:Illuminating answer on Stack Overflow</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247762340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why thank you, Captain Obvious!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why thank you , Captain Obvious !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why thank you, Captain Obvious!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708517</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28715907</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>pfleming</author>
	<datestamp>1247755620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>TFA stated that this was on <i>prepaid</i> cards. BOA issues what some consider to be credit rebuilding cards. He had to send in maybe $500.00 and got a $500.00 "credit line". This is someone with no credit history or a really trashed credit history. His reaction is not totally out of line when you realize what kind of people have to have prepaid cards.</htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA stated that this was on prepaid cards .
BOA issues what some consider to be credit rebuilding cards .
He had to send in maybe $ 500.00 and got a $ 500.00 " credit line " .
This is someone with no credit history or a really trashed credit history .
His reaction is not totally out of line when you realize what kind of people have to have prepaid cards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA stated that this was on prepaid cards.
BOA issues what some consider to be credit rebuilding cards.
He had to send in maybe $500.00 and got a $500.00 "credit line".
This is someone with no credit history or a really trashed credit history.
His reaction is not totally out of line when you realize what kind of people have to have prepaid cards.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710955</id>
	<title>Inverse??</title>
	<author>Dunge</author>
	<datestamp>1247666160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>What about the inverse? You deposit 20 20 15 50 ($538,972,752), it add a space and gives you much more? Quick before your local city datacenter get updated!</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about the inverse ?
You deposit 20 20 15 50 ( $ 538,972,752 ) , it add a space and gives you much more ?
Quick before your local city datacenter get updated !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about the inverse?
You deposit 20 20 15 50 ($538,972,752), it add a space and gives you much more?
Quick before your local city datacenter get updated!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708665</id>
	<title>m$vb</title>
	<author>amnezick</author>
	<datestamp>1247654160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This has to be a VB code</p><p>Dim sum as String * 8</p><p>' Any VB programmer knows that VB will auto fill the String*n variable with n-Len(sum) spaces. Notice the pun on "dim sum".</p><p>' Let's see how many VB programmers are there around here<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This has to be a VB codeDim sum as String * 8 ' Any VB programmer knows that VB will auto fill the String * n variable with n-Len ( sum ) spaces .
Notice the pun on " dim sum " .
' Let 's see how many VB programmers are there around here .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This has to be a VB codeDim sum as String * 8' Any VB programmer knows that VB will auto fill the String*n variable with n-Len(sum) spaces.
Notice the pun on "dim sum".
' Let's see how many VB programmers are there around here ...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709123</id>
	<title>Re:reassuring...</title>
	<author>interval1066</author>
	<datestamp>1247656020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They should do it. Charging crap is good for the economy. Before you know it; a quintillion here, a quintillion there, pretty soon you're talkin' real money...</htmltext>
<tokenext>They should do it .
Charging crap is good for the economy .
Before you know it ; a quintillion here , a quintillion there , pretty soon you 're talkin ' real money.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They should do it.
Charging crap is good for the economy.
Before you know it; a quintillion here, a quintillion there, pretty soon you're talkin' real money...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708737</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710681</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing to see here, keep moving along please..</title>
	<author>ILikeRed</author>
	<datestamp>1247664120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is rather funny (and sad) that so much of the IT industry is still awash in problems that were observed, and solutions published for, with UNIX years ago. I've read at least three UNIX books that address this issue, among others. And yet the majority of IT industry (and even many "CS" programs) act like there just is not any solution to these problems, when I learned of them in undergraduate level courses.</p><p>"This is the Unix philosophy: Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface." - Doug McIlroy</p><p>"Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly." - Henry Spencer</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is rather funny ( and sad ) that so much of the IT industry is still awash in problems that were observed , and solutions published for , with UNIX years ago .
I 've read at least three UNIX books that address this issue , among others .
And yet the majority of IT industry ( and even many " CS " programs ) act like there just is not any solution to these problems , when I learned of them in undergraduate level courses .
" This is the Unix philosophy : Write programs that do one thing and do it well .
Write programs to work together .
Write programs to handle text streams , because that is a universal interface .
" - Doug McIlroy " Those who do n't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it , poorly .
" - Henry Spencer</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is rather funny (and sad) that so much of the IT industry is still awash in problems that were observed, and solutions published for, with UNIX years ago.
I've read at least three UNIX books that address this issue, among others.
And yet the majority of IT industry (and even many "CS" programs) act like there just is not any solution to these problems, when I learned of them in undergraduate level courses.
"This is the Unix philosophy: Write programs that do one thing and do it well.
Write programs to work together.
Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface.
" - Doug McIlroy"Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
" - Henry Spencer</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708809</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709147</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>fishbowl</author>
	<datestamp>1247656080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wouldn't have stayed on hold.  I doubt I would even have called.  I would be hoping these people are stupid enough to sue me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't have stayed on hold .
I doubt I would even have called .
I would be hoping these people are stupid enough to sue me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't have stayed on hold.
I doubt I would even have called.
I would be hoping these people are stupid enough to sue me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28716435</id>
	<title>Re:At least it wasn't EBCDIC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247758020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Replace "binary zero" with "ascii zero" in the summary and you get hex 48, taking you over 5 quintillion.  Who can I call at Visa that will punch in some "error-correcting" zeroes for me?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Replace " binary zero " with " ascii zero " in the summary and you get hex 48 , taking you over 5 quintillion .
Who can I call at Visa that will punch in some " error-correcting " zeroes for me ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Replace "binary zero" with "ascii zero" in the summary and you get hex 48, taking you over 5 quintillion.
Who can I call at Visa that will punch in some "error-correcting" zeroes for me?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708361</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710551</id>
	<title>Re:Yeeeaaaaahh...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247663280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>geral rule of banking programming: In case of doubt, is a debt to customer</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>geral rule of banking programming : In case of doubt , is a debt to customer</tokentext>
<sentencetext>geral rule of banking programming: In case of doubt, is a debt to customer</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708523</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708617</id>
	<title>Re:Yeeeaaaaahh...</title>
	<author>Shikaku</author>
	<datestamp>1247653920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you really think a customer would report a monetary account error in their favor?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you really think a customer would report a monetary account error in their favor ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you really think a customer would report a monetary account error in their favor?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708523</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28712823</id>
	<title>Re:reassuring...</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1247682060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What, you thought you could get rich by getting your debt past $2147483648?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What , you thought you could get rich by getting your debt past $ 2147483648 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What, you thought you could get rich by getting your debt past $2147483648?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708737</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28720415</id>
	<title>Re:Extremely speculative.</title>
	<author>srvivn21</author>
	<datestamp>1247772480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Actually it looks even simpler then that.</p><p>It looks like $2.31 was his amount and the rest was his CC number, since the 4885 is a typical Visa Check Card sequence issued by BofA.</p><p>I wonder if this guy was smart enough to look at his card number and verify that was not the case here, especially before putting it out to the press.</p></div><p>Good suggestion, but there are only 14 digits:</p><p>4885 5308 1845 00</p><p>If you count the "cents" there are 16, but then the card ends with 0000, and doesn't pass the checksum.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually it looks even simpler then that.It looks like $ 2.31 was his amount and the rest was his CC number , since the 4885 is a typical Visa Check Card sequence issued by BofA.I wonder if this guy was smart enough to look at his card number and verify that was not the case here , especially before putting it out to the press.Good suggestion , but there are only 14 digits : 4885 5308 1845 00If you count the " cents " there are 16 , but then the card ends with 0000 , and does n't pass the checksum .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually it looks even simpler then that.It looks like $2.31 was his amount and the rest was his CC number, since the 4885 is a typical Visa Check Card sequence issued by BofA.I wonder if this guy was smart enough to look at his card number and verify that was not the case here, especially before putting it out to the press.Good suggestion, but there are only 14 digits:4885 5308 1845 00If you count the "cents" there are 16, but then the card ends with 0000, and doesn't pass the checksum.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28712385</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28712243</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing to see here, keep moving along please..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247676480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree with the parent.  I too do a good deal of database stuff where I work and I've come up with a little mantra.</p><p>If \%99 of the query results make no sense, its the query language that's the problem.  If 1\% of the query results make no sense, its the input.</p><p>It doesn't matter if the input was done directly by a person or if the input was from a digital file.  At some point, the information was ultimately entered by a person... garbage in, garbage out so they say.  This goes for code and for data.</p><p>We have a staff member that simply ignores data requirments.  Colen?  Semi Colen?  Same thing and it takes to long to hit the shift key...</p><p>No wonder we have to scrub only her input.  The devil is in the details and when dealing with a database, the smallest things can cause interesting problems.</p><p>I loath the day when she (a smart and curious person) decides to start learning sql.  She is the kind of person that would learn about sql just enough to learn how to do an sql injection that executes drop table * just so she doesn't have to do the data entry.</p><p>A major part of her job is data entry by the way.</p><p>What does she care?  She gets to go home early and someone else has to stay late right?</p><p>I'm glad I'm not dealing with data this as important as the parent.  I probably would have killed her by now.... just so customers affected by the work she does at her next job don't have to suffer.</p><p>Yes, I know it shouldn't be possible... the data should be validated before its uploaded into the database.  However, when you run the backend database and the front end the users see is not under your control, you have a much harder time of it when the html coders are more interested in look and feel than function.  "Oh that will never happen and it will be alot of work."</p><p>Nope, it IS happening and rather than address the problem, you merely pasted the work down the line.  These developers that know nothing of sql other than how to right an ODBC connection string and call a pre-written query should also be shot.  Why the hell are you writing code that touches a database without understanding what your code can do to the database?  Sure, you don't have to be able to do my job, but you should understand enough about it to intermingle without problems AND should listen to the person who fixes the problems you can't fix when they say something.  Your right to code your website the way you want ends THE MOMENT you query my database.</p><p>People just don't get that 1 is NOT 'close enough' to 0 when it comes to computers.... there simply is no 'close enough' - there is only correct and everything else.</p><p>I don't blame people for making mistakes - were human beings and to error is human.  Then again, when its repeated or malicious or just plain incompetent, well, if I have to break a date with a girl I like (who knew anyone would to get away with that on slashdot?), I'm certainly NOT divine in my reaction.  Next target is management that keeps people like this on staff to avoid paying un-employment or is not qualified to understand the nuance of their decision to not enforce standards in data entry or downline sanitation because 'Its not important - my web guys told me so.'</p><p>It doesn't matter if you understand why or why not a certain action could be a problem.  If you pay an expert to tell you these things, you listen to them...  otherwise, why did you hire the expert with knowledge you don't have in the first place?</p><p>Do you second guess your doctor when they tell you that the new must have medicine you saw on TV would kill you?  Of course not, you never asked your doctor did you?  The doctor is just supposed to give you a different pill to make it all better right?</p><p>See how little sense that makes?  Of course not - the first pill killed you and now you see nothing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree with the parent .
I too do a good deal of database stuff where I work and I 've come up with a little mantra.If \ % 99 of the query results make no sense , its the query language that 's the problem .
If 1 \ % of the query results make no sense , its the input.It does n't matter if the input was done directly by a person or if the input was from a digital file .
At some point , the information was ultimately entered by a person... garbage in , garbage out so they say .
This goes for code and for data.We have a staff member that simply ignores data requirments .
Colen ? Semi Colen ?
Same thing and it takes to long to hit the shift key...No wonder we have to scrub only her input .
The devil is in the details and when dealing with a database , the smallest things can cause interesting problems.I loath the day when she ( a smart and curious person ) decides to start learning sql .
She is the kind of person that would learn about sql just enough to learn how to do an sql injection that executes drop table * just so she does n't have to do the data entry.A major part of her job is data entry by the way.What does she care ?
She gets to go home early and someone else has to stay late right ? I 'm glad I 'm not dealing with data this as important as the parent .
I probably would have killed her by now.... just so customers affected by the work she does at her next job do n't have to suffer.Yes , I know it should n't be possible... the data should be validated before its uploaded into the database .
However , when you run the backend database and the front end the users see is not under your control , you have a much harder time of it when the html coders are more interested in look and feel than function .
" Oh that will never happen and it will be alot of work .
" Nope , it IS happening and rather than address the problem , you merely pasted the work down the line .
These developers that know nothing of sql other than how to right an ODBC connection string and call a pre-written query should also be shot .
Why the hell are you writing code that touches a database without understanding what your code can do to the database ?
Sure , you do n't have to be able to do my job , but you should understand enough about it to intermingle without problems AND should listen to the person who fixes the problems you ca n't fix when they say something .
Your right to code your website the way you want ends THE MOMENT you query my database.People just do n't get that 1 is NOT 'close enough ' to 0 when it comes to computers.... there simply is no 'close enough ' - there is only correct and everything else.I do n't blame people for making mistakes - were human beings and to error is human .
Then again , when its repeated or malicious or just plain incompetent , well , if I have to break a date with a girl I like ( who knew anyone would to get away with that on slashdot ?
) , I 'm certainly NOT divine in my reaction .
Next target is management that keeps people like this on staff to avoid paying un-employment or is not qualified to understand the nuance of their decision to not enforce standards in data entry or downline sanitation because 'Its not important - my web guys told me so .
'It does n't matter if you understand why or why not a certain action could be a problem .
If you pay an expert to tell you these things , you listen to them... otherwise , why did you hire the expert with knowledge you do n't have in the first place ? Do you second guess your doctor when they tell you that the new must have medicine you saw on TV would kill you ?
Of course not , you never asked your doctor did you ?
The doctor is just supposed to give you a different pill to make it all better right ? See how little sense that makes ?
Of course not - the first pill killed you and now you see nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree with the parent.
I too do a good deal of database stuff where I work and I've come up with a little mantra.If \%99 of the query results make no sense, its the query language that's the problem.
If 1\% of the query results make no sense, its the input.It doesn't matter if the input was done directly by a person or if the input was from a digital file.
At some point, the information was ultimately entered by a person... garbage in, garbage out so they say.
This goes for code and for data.We have a staff member that simply ignores data requirments.
Colen?  Semi Colen?
Same thing and it takes to long to hit the shift key...No wonder we have to scrub only her input.
The devil is in the details and when dealing with a database, the smallest things can cause interesting problems.I loath the day when she (a smart and curious person) decides to start learning sql.
She is the kind of person that would learn about sql just enough to learn how to do an sql injection that executes drop table * just so she doesn't have to do the data entry.A major part of her job is data entry by the way.What does she care?
She gets to go home early and someone else has to stay late right?I'm glad I'm not dealing with data this as important as the parent.
I probably would have killed her by now.... just so customers affected by the work she does at her next job don't have to suffer.Yes, I know it shouldn't be possible... the data should be validated before its uploaded into the database.
However, when you run the backend database and the front end the users see is not under your control, you have a much harder time of it when the html coders are more interested in look and feel than function.
"Oh that will never happen and it will be alot of work.
"Nope, it IS happening and rather than address the problem, you merely pasted the work down the line.
These developers that know nothing of sql other than how to right an ODBC connection string and call a pre-written query should also be shot.
Why the hell are you writing code that touches a database without understanding what your code can do to the database?
Sure, you don't have to be able to do my job, but you should understand enough about it to intermingle without problems AND should listen to the person who fixes the problems you can't fix when they say something.
Your right to code your website the way you want ends THE MOMENT you query my database.People just don't get that 1 is NOT 'close enough' to 0 when it comes to computers.... there simply is no 'close enough' - there is only correct and everything else.I don't blame people for making mistakes - were human beings and to error is human.
Then again, when its repeated or malicious or just plain incompetent, well, if I have to break a date with a girl I like (who knew anyone would to get away with that on slashdot?
), I'm certainly NOT divine in my reaction.
Next target is management that keeps people like this on staff to avoid paying un-employment or is not qualified to understand the nuance of their decision to not enforce standards in data entry or downline sanitation because 'Its not important - my web guys told me so.
'It doesn't matter if you understand why or why not a certain action could be a problem.
If you pay an expert to tell you these things, you listen to them...  otherwise, why did you hire the expert with knowledge you don't have in the first place?Do you second guess your doctor when they tell you that the new must have medicine you saw on TV would kill you?
Of course not, you never asked your doctor did you?
The doctor is just supposed to give you a different pill to make it all better right?See how little sense that makes?
Of course not - the first pill killed you and now you see nothing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28718141</id>
	<title>Hex? Not likely...</title>
	<author>rocca</author>
	<datestamp>1247764380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Visa doesn't do hex, and they certainly wouldn't convert spaces to binary. Most of the credit card import systems use formatted flat files. The problem is more likely an alignment issue and the credit card number itself was 4231 4885 5308 1845.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Visa does n't do hex , and they certainly would n't convert spaces to binary .
Most of the credit card import systems use formatted flat files .
The problem is more likely an alignment issue and the credit card number itself was 4231 4885 5308 1845 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Visa doesn't do hex, and they certainly wouldn't convert spaces to binary.
Most of the credit card import systems use formatted flat files.
The problem is more likely an alignment issue and the credit card number itself was 4231 4885 5308 1845.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28738783</id>
	<title>about gold</title>
	<author>SMFC</author>
	<datestamp>1247860620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>ok i figured i would comment a little about gold since it was brought up. Yes paper currency used to actually equate to an amount of gold in a vault somewhere until we went ape shit with printing money. Gold is still one of the best invest, it is pretty safe and the increase in value over the next 10 years will just be simply retarded, silver is really good too cause it is an easier investment for rookies that are just getting started in metals. my brother in law has about 10k in silver in his possesion at home, i must say holding a bar of silver feels fucking awesome lol. gold even better but its so much more expensive. Historically gold prices have went up aand down. most fluctuations have really only happened sincec the late 70's. in 1998 an ounce of chronic was worth its weight in gold about 300 bucks. 10 years later it was about 880 bucks if you had purchased enough in 98 that would have been some good profit. the lowest it dropped after 1998 was 2001@ 271 but it jumped to 309 in 2002. Also keep in mind that although gold is a precious metal used for large currency transfer and trading, it also has a use, it rocks in electronics, it coducts pretty fucking fantastic, I think we all no electronics are not going anywhere until atleast 12/21/12. the rocketing in price was not random, the computer industry really got going when?? its only going to go up in value...

Please keep this in mind.yearly averages of gold prices have been kept since 1793. <a href="http://goldinfo.net/yearly.html" title="goldinfo.net" rel="nofollow">http://goldinfo.net/yearly.html</a> [goldinfo.net]

the value between 1890 and 1932 did not change from 20.67 an ounce, talk about a long term investment</htmltext>
<tokenext>ok i figured i would comment a little about gold since it was brought up .
Yes paper currency used to actually equate to an amount of gold in a vault somewhere until we went ape shit with printing money .
Gold is still one of the best invest , it is pretty safe and the increase in value over the next 10 years will just be simply retarded , silver is really good too cause it is an easier investment for rookies that are just getting started in metals .
my brother in law has about 10k in silver in his possesion at home , i must say holding a bar of silver feels fucking awesome lol .
gold even better but its so much more expensive .
Historically gold prices have went up aand down .
most fluctuations have really only happened sincec the late 70 's .
in 1998 an ounce of chronic was worth its weight in gold about 300 bucks .
10 years later it was about 880 bucks if you had purchased enough in 98 that would have been some good profit .
the lowest it dropped after 1998 was 2001 @ 271 but it jumped to 309 in 2002 .
Also keep in mind that although gold is a precious metal used for large currency transfer and trading , it also has a use , it rocks in electronics , it coducts pretty fucking fantastic , I think we all no electronics are not going anywhere until atleast 12/21/12 .
the rocketing in price was not random , the computer industry really got going when ? ?
its only going to go up in value.. . Please keep this in mind.yearly averages of gold prices have been kept since 1793. http : //goldinfo.net/yearly.html [ goldinfo.net ] the value between 1890 and 1932 did not change from 20.67 an ounce , talk about a long term investment</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ok i figured i would comment a little about gold since it was brought up.
Yes paper currency used to actually equate to an amount of gold in a vault somewhere until we went ape shit with printing money.
Gold is still one of the best invest, it is pretty safe and the increase in value over the next 10 years will just be simply retarded, silver is really good too cause it is an easier investment for rookies that are just getting started in metals.
my brother in law has about 10k in silver in his possesion at home, i must say holding a bar of silver feels fucking awesome lol.
gold even better but its so much more expensive.
Historically gold prices have went up aand down.
most fluctuations have really only happened sincec the late 70's.
in 1998 an ounce of chronic was worth its weight in gold about 300 bucks.
10 years later it was about 880 bucks if you had purchased enough in 98 that would have been some good profit.
the lowest it dropped after 1998 was 2001@ 271 but it jumped to 309 in 2002.
Also keep in mind that although gold is a precious metal used for large currency transfer and trading, it also has a use, it rocks in electronics, it coducts pretty fucking fantastic, I think we all no electronics are not going anywhere until atleast 12/21/12.
the rocketing in price was not random, the computer industry really got going when??
its only going to go up in value...

Please keep this in mind.yearly averages of gold prices have been kept since 1793. http://goldinfo.net/yearly.html [goldinfo.net]

the value between 1890 and 1932 did not change from 20.67 an ounce, talk about a long term investment</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28715397</id>
	<title>New meaning of $Hex notation</title>
	<author>shervinemami</author>
	<datestamp>1247752740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It gives a new meaning to the common $Hex notation, like $FF<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>It gives a new meaning to the common $ Hex notation , like $ FF : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It gives a new meaning to the common $Hex notation, like $FF :-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711435</id>
	<title>Re:Not an error</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247669760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Exactly...  apparently, we're all going to get our share of the ObamaDebt put directly on our credit cards; these visa card holders just got the preview by accident!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly... apparently , we 're all going to get our share of the ObamaDebt put directly on our credit cards ; these visa card holders just got the preview by accident !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly...  apparently, we're all going to get our share of the ObamaDebt put directly on our credit cards; these visa card holders just got the preview by accident!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708401</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</id>
	<title>The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1247653500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is not so much the error(stupid; but, if corrected, not ultimately a giant deal); but the response of the cardholder to the error:<br> <br>

"The bank kept him on hold for two hours, during which time he contemplated the impossibly bleak financial future that might await him. He also felt a stab of fear that he had saddled all his unborn grandchildren -- and their grandchildren -- with a lifetime of debt. "Down the generational line, nobody would have any money."<br> <br>

For fuck's sake, people, the credit card guys haven't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet, and this guy thinks that it is already on the books?<br> <br>
Muszynski compared the giant debt reprieve to receiving "an amazing Monopoly card that says, 'Bank error in your favor.' "<br> <br>
Pathetic. This guy is <i>grateful</i> that Visa condescended to fix their obvious mistake(this isn't some he said/she said billing dispute, this is someone who allegedly spent more than the world GDP at a gas station)? What is this cringing bullshit? Either this guy is just a sad sack or, rather worse, the "customer service" we get, along with the kangaroo courts that are "mandatory binding arbitration" actually make thankfulness for not being screwed a reasonable response.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is not so much the error ( stupid ; but , if corrected , not ultimately a giant deal ) ; but the response of the cardholder to the error : " The bank kept him on hold for two hours , during which time he contemplated the impossibly bleak financial future that might await him .
He also felt a stab of fear that he had saddled all his unborn grandchildren -- and their grandchildren -- with a lifetime of debt .
" Down the generational line , nobody would have any money .
" For fuck 's sake , people , the credit card guys have n't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet , and this guy thinks that it is already on the books ?
Muszynski compared the giant debt reprieve to receiving " an amazing Monopoly card that says , 'Bank error in your favor .
' " Pathetic .
This guy is grateful that Visa condescended to fix their obvious mistake ( this is n't some he said/she said billing dispute , this is someone who allegedly spent more than the world GDP at a gas station ) ?
What is this cringing bullshit ?
Either this guy is just a sad sack or , rather worse , the " customer service " we get , along with the kangaroo courts that are " mandatory binding arbitration " actually make thankfulness for not being screwed a reasonable response .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is not so much the error(stupid; but, if corrected, not ultimately a giant deal); but the response of the cardholder to the error: 

"The bank kept him on hold for two hours, during which time he contemplated the impossibly bleak financial future that might await him.
He also felt a stab of fear that he had saddled all his unborn grandchildren -- and their grandchildren -- with a lifetime of debt.
"Down the generational line, nobody would have any money.
" 

For fuck's sake, people, the credit card guys haven't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet, and this guy thinks that it is already on the books?
Muszynski compared the giant debt reprieve to receiving "an amazing Monopoly card that says, 'Bank error in your favor.
' " 
Pathetic.
This guy is grateful that Visa condescended to fix their obvious mistake(this isn't some he said/she said billing dispute, this is someone who allegedly spent more than the world GDP at a gas station)?
What is this cringing bullshit?
Either this guy is just a sad sack or, rather worse, the "customer service" we get, along with the kangaroo courts that are "mandatory binding arbitration" actually make thankfulness for not being screwed a reasonable response.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708467</id>
	<title>Sensationalist article</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247653200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>He also felt a stab of fear that he had saddled all his unborn grandchildren -- and their grandchildren -- with a lifetime of debt. "Down the generational line, nobody would have any money."</p></div><p>Give me a break.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>He also felt a stab of fear that he had saddled all his unborn grandchildren -- and their grandchildren -- with a lifetime of debt .
" Down the generational line , nobody would have any money .
" Give me a break .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He also felt a stab of fear that he had saddled all his unborn grandchildren -- and their grandchildren -- with a lifetime of debt.
"Down the generational line, nobody would have any money.
"Give me a break.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28713823</id>
	<title>Re:I can hear the radio ads now</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247735520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>John, is that you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>John , is that you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>John, is that you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708529</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711171</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing to see here, keep moving along please..</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1247667660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A honest question: What's the point of this padding again? Especially more than 128 bit padding or similar things.</p><p>It is because C is unable to do simple things like be flexible in its data structures? ^^</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A honest question : What 's the point of this padding again ?
Especially more than 128 bit padding or similar things.It is because C is unable to do simple things like be flexible in its data structures ?
^ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A honest question: What's the point of this padding again?
Especially more than 128 bit padding or similar things.It is because C is unable to do simple things like be flexible in its data structures?
^^</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708809</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708943</id>
	<title>Re:At least it wasn't EBCDIC</title>
	<author>SkyDude</author>
	<datestamp>1247655420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>ahhhh.....Visa OWNS Mastercard</htmltext>
<tokenext>ahhhh.....Visa OWNS Mastercard</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ahhhh.....Visa OWNS Mastercard</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708399</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708809</id>
	<title>Nothing to see here, keep moving along please...</title>
	<author>rickb928</author>
	<datestamp>1247654820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I work in this industry.  The only novelty here is that the error got into production, and was not caught and corrected before it went that far.</p><p>Submitters send files to processors which are supposed to be formatted according to specifications.</p><p>Note I wrote 'supposed to be'.</p><p>Some submitters do, from time to time, change their code, and sometimes they get it wrong.  For instance padding a field with spaces instead of zeros.  Woopsie...!</p><p>Seems that's what happened here.  Sounds like a hex or dec field got padded with hex 20, and boom.</p><p>This is annoying, especially when the processor gets to help correct the overwhelming number of errors, and then tries to explain that it wasn't their fault. Plenty of blame to go around with this one.</p><p>And then explains why they don't both validate/sanitize input, and test for at least some reasonable maximum value in the transaction amount.  A max amount of $10,000,000 would have fixed this.  That and an obvious lapse in testing.  This is what keeps my bosses awake sometimes, fearing they will end up on the front page of the fishwrap looking stupid 'cause their overworked minions screwed something up, or didn't check, or didn't test very well.  I love one of the guys we have testing.  He's insufferable, and he catches genuine show-stoppers on a regular basis.  They can't pay him what he's been worth, literally $millions, just in avoiding downtime and re-working code that went too far down the wrong path.</p><p>Believe me, this is in some ways preferable to getting files with one byte wrong that doesn't show up for a month, or sending the wrong data format (hex instead of packed binary or EBCDIC, for instance) and crashing the process completely.  Please, I know data should never IPL a system.  Tell it to the architects, please. As if they don't know now, after the one crash...</p><p>If you knew what I know, you'd chuckle and share this story with some of your buddies in development and certification.</p><p>And pray a little.</p><p>At least it didn't overbill the cardholders by $.08/transaction.  That would suck.  This is easy by comparison.  Just fix the report data.  Piece of cake. Evening's worth of coding and slam it out in off-peak time.  Hahahahaha!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I work in this industry .
The only novelty here is that the error got into production , and was not caught and corrected before it went that far.Submitters send files to processors which are supposed to be formatted according to specifications.Note I wrote 'supposed to be'.Some submitters do , from time to time , change their code , and sometimes they get it wrong .
For instance padding a field with spaces instead of zeros .
Woopsie... ! Seems that 's what happened here .
Sounds like a hex or dec field got padded with hex 20 , and boom.This is annoying , especially when the processor gets to help correct the overwhelming number of errors , and then tries to explain that it was n't their fault .
Plenty of blame to go around with this one.And then explains why they do n't both validate/sanitize input , and test for at least some reasonable maximum value in the transaction amount .
A max amount of $ 10,000,000 would have fixed this .
That and an obvious lapse in testing .
This is what keeps my bosses awake sometimes , fearing they will end up on the front page of the fishwrap looking stupid 'cause their overworked minions screwed something up , or did n't check , or did n't test very well .
I love one of the guys we have testing .
He 's insufferable , and he catches genuine show-stoppers on a regular basis .
They ca n't pay him what he 's been worth , literally $ millions , just in avoiding downtime and re-working code that went too far down the wrong path.Believe me , this is in some ways preferable to getting files with one byte wrong that does n't show up for a month , or sending the wrong data format ( hex instead of packed binary or EBCDIC , for instance ) and crashing the process completely .
Please , I know data should never IPL a system .
Tell it to the architects , please .
As if they do n't know now , after the one crash...If you knew what I know , you 'd chuckle and share this story with some of your buddies in development and certification.And pray a little.At least it did n't overbill the cardholders by $ .08/transaction .
That would suck .
This is easy by comparison .
Just fix the report data .
Piece of cake .
Evening 's worth of coding and slam it out in off-peak time .
Hahahahaha !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work in this industry.
The only novelty here is that the error got into production, and was not caught and corrected before it went that far.Submitters send files to processors which are supposed to be formatted according to specifications.Note I wrote 'supposed to be'.Some submitters do, from time to time, change their code, and sometimes they get it wrong.
For instance padding a field with spaces instead of zeros.
Woopsie...!Seems that's what happened here.
Sounds like a hex or dec field got padded with hex 20, and boom.This is annoying, especially when the processor gets to help correct the overwhelming number of errors, and then tries to explain that it wasn't their fault.
Plenty of blame to go around with this one.And then explains why they don't both validate/sanitize input, and test for at least some reasonable maximum value in the transaction amount.
A max amount of $10,000,000 would have fixed this.
That and an obvious lapse in testing.
This is what keeps my bosses awake sometimes, fearing they will end up on the front page of the fishwrap looking stupid 'cause their overworked minions screwed something up, or didn't check, or didn't test very well.
I love one of the guys we have testing.
He's insufferable, and he catches genuine show-stoppers on a regular basis.
They can't pay him what he's been worth, literally $millions, just in avoiding downtime and re-working code that went too far down the wrong path.Believe me, this is in some ways preferable to getting files with one byte wrong that doesn't show up for a month, or sending the wrong data format (hex instead of packed binary or EBCDIC, for instance) and crashing the process completely.
Please, I know data should never IPL a system.
Tell it to the architects, please.
As if they don't know now, after the one crash...If you knew what I know, you'd chuckle and share this story with some of your buddies in development and certification.And pray a little.At least it didn't overbill the cardholders by $.08/transaction.
That would suck.
This is easy by comparison.
Just fix the report data.
Piece of cake.
Evening's worth of coding and slam it out in off-peak time.
Hahahahaha!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28718333</id>
	<title>Re:What is truly appalling...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247765040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not only were there apparently no validity checks or even bounds checking, but the initial reports<br>in one of the incidents (in Manchester, New Hampshire) indicated a finger-pointing battle between<br>Bank Of America and Visa, two institutions who should've known better to begin with, and who<br>should've been smart enough to say something like "Well, there's apparently a problem here that<br>we need to investigate" instead of looking to offload the blame.</p><p>This is the sort of crap that should force us to let B of A fail - indeed, crumble under its own weight -<br>it's not too big to fail, as far as I'm concerned!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only were there apparently no validity checks or even bounds checking , but the initial reportsin one of the incidents ( in Manchester , New Hampshire ) indicated a finger-pointing battle betweenBank Of America and Visa , two institutions who should 've known better to begin with , and whoshould 've been smart enough to say something like " Well , there 's apparently a problem here thatwe need to investigate " instead of looking to offload the blame.This is the sort of crap that should force us to let B of A fail - indeed , crumble under its own weight -it 's not too big to fail , as far as I 'm concerned !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only were there apparently no validity checks or even bounds checking, but the initial reportsin one of the incidents (in Manchester, New Hampshire) indicated a finger-pointing battle betweenBank Of America and Visa, two institutions who should've known better to begin with, and whoshould've been smart enough to say something like "Well, there's apparently a problem here thatwe need to investigate" instead of looking to offload the blame.This is the sort of crap that should force us to let B of A fail - indeed, crumble under its own weight -it's not too big to fail, as far as I'm concerned!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708485</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708531</id>
	<title>I agree, Video has proof.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247653500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/bill-moyers-journal-cigna-chief-admit" title="crooksandliars.com" rel="nofollow">CICNA chief tells all.</a> [crooksandliars.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CICNA chief tells all .
[ crooksandliars.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CICNA chief tells all.
[crooksandliars.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708401</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28715143</id>
	<title>ISO-8583 error</title>
	<author>Muad'Dave</author>
	<datestamp>1247751360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It looks like someone filled in data element 4 of an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO\_8583" title="wikipedia.org">ISO-8583</a> [wikipedia.org] request as type an12 type instead of n12.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks like someone filled in data element 4 of an ISO-8583 [ wikipedia.org ] request as type an12 type instead of n12 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks like someone filled in data element 4 of an ISO-8583 [wikipedia.org] request as type an12 type instead of n12.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711195</id>
	<title>Re:Only Notice Large Glitches</title>
	<author>radtea</author>
	<datestamp>1247667900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Charge several thousand people $2.31 too much and you can make an alright profit.</i></p><p>What exactly was being "made" in this case?</p><p>Taken, yes.  Made... not so much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Charge several thousand people $ 2.31 too much and you can make an alright profit.What exactly was being " made " in this case ? Taken , yes .
Made... not so much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Charge several thousand people $2.31 too much and you can make an alright profit.What exactly was being "made" in this case?Taken, yes.
Made... not so much.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708755</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711801</id>
	<title>Re:Extremely speculative.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247672400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes.  Though I think it is unlikely that they are storing numeric values in strings.  If they are, I'm taking all of my money out of the banks now!  If I were a betting man, I would put my money on a memory leak.  Most likely some character buffer was overrun.  Assuming you believe the whole 20 20 20 20 20 20 story.  Which is plausible.  But if it is true, I seriously doubt it's because someone padded an int[] with ''.  As I said, my bet is a on memory leak.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
Though I think it is unlikely that they are storing numeric values in strings .
If they are , I 'm taking all of my money out of the banks now !
If I were a betting man , I would put my money on a memory leak .
Most likely some character buffer was overrun .
Assuming you believe the whole 20 20 20 20 20 20 story .
Which is plausible .
But if it is true , I seriously doubt it 's because someone padded an int [ ] with '' .
As I said , my bet is a on memory leak .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
Though I think it is unlikely that they are storing numeric values in strings.
If they are, I'm taking all of my money out of the banks now!
If I were a betting man, I would put my money on a memory leak.
Most likely some character buffer was overrun.
Assuming you believe the whole 20 20 20 20 20 20 story.
Which is plausible.
But if it is true, I seriously doubt it's because someone padded an int[] with ''.
As I said, my bet is a on memory leak.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708875</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708875</id>
	<title>Re:Extremely speculative.</title>
	<author>ajs</author>
	<datestamp>1247655180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, to make the jump from hexidecimal representation for a number to ascii is rather a long-shot.</p><p>Here's another:</p><p>Represented as 2-nibble-per-byte packed BCD (Binary Coded Decimal), this is the exact correct number of digits for a Visa card number. What you could well be looking at is a pre-initialized dummy card number overlayed with a price (stored in the last two bytes). If so, the expected value of the original default would be:</p><p><tt> 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 24</tt></p><p>That is, a card number that stores 2 in every odd position and zero in every even position followed by a trailing 4 to make the checksum work.</p><p>Just as plausible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , to make the jump from hexidecimal representation for a number to ascii is rather a long-shot.Here 's another : Represented as 2-nibble-per-byte packed BCD ( Binary Coded Decimal ) , this is the exact correct number of digits for a Visa card number .
What you could well be looking at is a pre-initialized dummy card number overlayed with a price ( stored in the last two bytes ) .
If so , the expected value of the original default would be : 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 24That is , a card number that stores 2 in every odd position and zero in every even position followed by a trailing 4 to make the checksum work.Just as plausible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, to make the jump from hexidecimal representation for a number to ascii is rather a long-shot.Here's another:Represented as 2-nibble-per-byte packed BCD (Binary Coded Decimal), this is the exact correct number of digits for a Visa card number.
What you could well be looking at is a pre-initialized dummy card number overlayed with a price (stored in the last two bytes).
If so, the expected value of the original default would be: 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 24That is, a card number that stores 2 in every odd position and zero in every even position followed by a trailing 4 to make the checksum work.Just as plausible.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708371</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710423</id>
	<title>Way To Go C &amp; C++ !</title>
	<author>curmudgeon99</author>
	<datestamp>1247662560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is another reason why the C and C++ languages should be reserved for a few, high profile uses such as making compilers. These languages should not be used for any general purpose language other than ones like C and C++ that allow you to royally shoot yourself in the foot with bad pointer arithmetic. What a doozy of an error all thanks to the "freedom" given the developer in the language. Surely, C and C++ are among the most powerful options available--but only for select applications. Do you drive a Formula One race car through Midtown Manhattan? I don't think so. You restrict them to racetracks. Thus too with C &amp; C++.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is another reason why the C and C + + languages should be reserved for a few , high profile uses such as making compilers .
These languages should not be used for any general purpose language other than ones like C and C + + that allow you to royally shoot yourself in the foot with bad pointer arithmetic .
What a doozy of an error all thanks to the " freedom " given the developer in the language .
Surely , C and C + + are among the most powerful options available--but only for select applications .
Do you drive a Formula One race car through Midtown Manhattan ?
I do n't think so .
You restrict them to racetracks .
Thus too with C &amp; C + + .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is another reason why the C and C++ languages should be reserved for a few, high profile uses such as making compilers.
These languages should not be used for any general purpose language other than ones like C and C++ that allow you to royally shoot yourself in the foot with bad pointer arithmetic.
What a doozy of an error all thanks to the "freedom" given the developer in the language.
Surely, C and C++ are among the most powerful options available--but only for select applications.
Do you drive a Formula One race car through Midtown Manhattan?
I don't think so.
You restrict them to racetracks.
Thus too with C &amp; C++.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708569</id>
	<title>That's a lot...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247653740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>For that money you could download dozens of MP3s via your US mobile phone while in Canada, and still have money left to pay the RIAA.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For that money you could download dozens of MP3s via your US mobile phone while in Canada , and still have money left to pay the RIAA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For that money you could download dozens of MP3s via your US mobile phone while in Canada, and still have money left to pay the RIAA.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708785</id>
	<title>Re:Sensationalist article</title>
	<author>fishbowl</author>
	<datestamp>1247654760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Funny how he's not thinking about how this error could (and should) make him rich.  No court would side with the company over the victim, and he could claim any damages he'd like -- he'd win, simply on the fact that the company gave him a $BIGNUM bill and didn't *immediately* acknowledge and correct the error.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny how he 's not thinking about how this error could ( and should ) make him rich .
No court would side with the company over the victim , and he could claim any damages he 'd like -- he 'd win , simply on the fact that the company gave him a $ BIGNUM bill and did n't * immediately * acknowledge and correct the error .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny how he's not thinking about how this error could (and should) make him rich.
No court would side with the company over the victim, and he could claim any damages he'd like -- he'd win, simply on the fact that the company gave him a $BIGNUM bill and didn't *immediately* acknowledge and correct the error.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708467</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709119</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247656020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if it ends up being not the case here, there's not much I hate more than developers who pad their character data with spaces.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if it ends up being not the case here , there 's not much I hate more than developers who pad their character data with spaces .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if it ends up being not the case here, there's not much I hate more than developers who pad their character data with spaces.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28712205</id>
	<title>Similar charge happened to me</title>
	<author>SupremoMan</author>
	<datestamp>1247675940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had something similar ring up when paying with credit card. However the guy canceled the transaction right away. It seemed the machine took my credit card number and used that as a charge, explains 16 digits.  Hope that was not his credit card number... ooops?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had something similar ring up when paying with credit card .
However the guy canceled the transaction right away .
It seemed the machine took my credit card number and used that as a charge , explains 16 digits .
Hope that was not his credit card number... ooops ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had something similar ring up when paying with credit card.
However the guy canceled the transaction right away.
It seemed the machine took my credit card number and used that as a charge, explains 16 digits.
Hope that was not his credit card number... ooops?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28712957</id>
	<title>Re:64 bit charge amounts?</title>
	<author>guruevi</author>
	<datestamp>1247683440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're planning for the near future when gas prices (practically the only necessity we import on large scale in this country) will be in scientific notation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're planning for the near future when gas prices ( practically the only necessity we import on large scale in this country ) will be in scientific notation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're planning for the near future when gas prices (practically the only necessity we import on large scale in this country) will be in scientific notation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709375</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28712615</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing to see here, keep moving along please..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247680440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I work in this industry.  The only novelty here is that the error got into production, and was not caught and corrected before it went that far.</p></div><p>That explains why there are so many software testers currently looking for work.  The CC industry doesn't use as many of them, anymore.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Some submitters do, from time to time, change their code, and sometimes they get it wrong.  For instance padding a field with spaces instead of zeros.  Woopsie...!</p></div><p>You're still using legacy zero padding?  You should be doing things in XML.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Seems that's what happened here.  Sounds like a hex or dec field got padded with hex 20, and boom.</p></div><p>Not quite.  If it were padded with space characters, you get 0x20 in each byte (and that's just what this number had in the first 6 of 8 bytes).  If it were padded with zero characters, you would get 34,723,282,962,276,803.04 or so.</p><p>The REAL problem here is that the code was interpreting 64 bits as internal binary integer, when the data that arrived was at least 6 ASCII space characters.  In other words, the data was in an old legacy format with space padding (which is easily handled by decimal conversion code along with zero padding), but the code expected a raw 64 bit integer, perhaps in the big-endian byte order.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>This is annoying, especially when the processor gets to help correct the overwhelming number of errors, and then tries to explain that it wasn't their fault. Plenty of blame to go around with this one.</p></div><p>It was clearly someone's fault.  Possibly a programmer not applying the proper field conversion?  Perhaps the code was intended field conversion in place (replace the memory that has ASCII digit characters with the binary representation) and the conversion bailed out for some reason and the calling code didn't properly detect that (hint: in today's dollar amounts, the highest order byte of 64 bit integers should be zero).</p><p>Even if a programmer is to blame, management is not blameless.  And maybe it's not even a programmer to blame.  Ultimately, the real blame does lie with management who should have seen to it that errors never happen.  Of course, errors do happen and while the blame may be correct, it's really cheaper apply 99.999\% perfection instead of 100\% perfection.  It's not that serious a blame<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... at least as long as problems get corrected.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>And then explains why they don't both validate/sanitize input, and test for at least some reasonable maximum value in the transaction amount.  A max amount of $10,000,000 would have fixed this.  That and an obvious lapse in testing.  This is what keeps my bosses awake sometimes, fearing they will end up on the front page of the fishwrap looking stupid 'cause their overworked minions screwed something up, or didn't check, or didn't test very well.  I love one of the guys we have testing.  He's insufferable, and he catches genuine show-stoppers on a regular basis.  They can't pay him what he's been worth, literally $millions, just in avoiding downtime and re-working code that went too far down the wrong path.</p></div><p>I don't know that $10,000,000 would be high enough.  The kind of error this one is could be detected with a test against 2 to the 56th power.  A lower test might catch other errors.  And whatever tests are done, they should be in their own class, module, function, macro, or whatever, and separate from the mainline code.  Two tests should be applied, one being conservatively high but fixed by the coders (e.g. the 2 to the 56th power test) and the other being configurable for code used by multiple processors (they can choose their own closer to the edge sanity check).</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Believe me, this is in some ways preferable to getting files with one byte wrong that doesn't show up for a month, or sending the wrong data format (hex instead of packed binary or EBCDIC, for instance) and crashing the process completely.  Please, I know data should never IPL a system.  Tell it to the architects, please. As if they don't know now, after the one crash...</p></div><p>As much as I personally hate XML used for data (it's supposed to be a document markup), it would be appropriate here.  A transaction charge is a document, anyway.  But even XML is not fool proof.  The lower they keep paying programmers, the more they will be letting in fools.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>If you knew what I know, you'd chuckle and share this story with some of your buddies in development and certification.</p></div><p>While at some development office somewhere, most of them are watching someone over in the corner sweating bullets.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>At least it didn't overbill the cardholders by $.08/transaction.  That would suck.  This is easy by comparison.  Just fix the report data.  Piece of cake. Evening's worth of coding and slam it out in off-peak time.  Hahahahaha!</p></div><p>I'm one of those people that refuses to take no for an answer from CSRs even if it's just one penny off, and even if it's off in my favor (because I know the auditors will fix it if it's not in the bank's favor).</p><p>One question: How much of this stuff is still in COBOL?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I work in this industry .
The only novelty here is that the error got into production , and was not caught and corrected before it went that far.That explains why there are so many software testers currently looking for work .
The CC industry does n't use as many of them , anymore.Some submitters do , from time to time , change their code , and sometimes they get it wrong .
For instance padding a field with spaces instead of zeros .
Woopsie... ! You 're still using legacy zero padding ?
You should be doing things in XML.Seems that 's what happened here .
Sounds like a hex or dec field got padded with hex 20 , and boom.Not quite .
If it were padded with space characters , you get 0x20 in each byte ( and that 's just what this number had in the first 6 of 8 bytes ) .
If it were padded with zero characters , you would get 34,723,282,962,276,803.04 or so.The REAL problem here is that the code was interpreting 64 bits as internal binary integer , when the data that arrived was at least 6 ASCII space characters .
In other words , the data was in an old legacy format with space padding ( which is easily handled by decimal conversion code along with zero padding ) , but the code expected a raw 64 bit integer , perhaps in the big-endian byte order.This is annoying , especially when the processor gets to help correct the overwhelming number of errors , and then tries to explain that it was n't their fault .
Plenty of blame to go around with this one.It was clearly someone 's fault .
Possibly a programmer not applying the proper field conversion ?
Perhaps the code was intended field conversion in place ( replace the memory that has ASCII digit characters with the binary representation ) and the conversion bailed out for some reason and the calling code did n't properly detect that ( hint : in today 's dollar amounts , the highest order byte of 64 bit integers should be zero ) .Even if a programmer is to blame , management is not blameless .
And maybe it 's not even a programmer to blame .
Ultimately , the real blame does lie with management who should have seen to it that errors never happen .
Of course , errors do happen and while the blame may be correct , it 's really cheaper apply 99.999 \ % perfection instead of 100 \ % perfection .
It 's not that serious a blame ... at least as long as problems get corrected.And then explains why they do n't both validate/sanitize input , and test for at least some reasonable maximum value in the transaction amount .
A max amount of $ 10,000,000 would have fixed this .
That and an obvious lapse in testing .
This is what keeps my bosses awake sometimes , fearing they will end up on the front page of the fishwrap looking stupid 'cause their overworked minions screwed something up , or did n't check , or did n't test very well .
I love one of the guys we have testing .
He 's insufferable , and he catches genuine show-stoppers on a regular basis .
They ca n't pay him what he 's been worth , literally $ millions , just in avoiding downtime and re-working code that went too far down the wrong path.I do n't know that $ 10,000,000 would be high enough .
The kind of error this one is could be detected with a test against 2 to the 56th power .
A lower test might catch other errors .
And whatever tests are done , they should be in their own class , module , function , macro , or whatever , and separate from the mainline code .
Two tests should be applied , one being conservatively high but fixed by the coders ( e.g .
the 2 to the 56th power test ) and the other being configurable for code used by multiple processors ( they can choose their own closer to the edge sanity check ) .Believe me , this is in some ways preferable to getting files with one byte wrong that does n't show up for a month , or sending the wrong data format ( hex instead of packed binary or EBCDIC , for instance ) and crashing the process completely .
Please , I know data should never IPL a system .
Tell it to the architects , please .
As if they do n't know now , after the one crash...As much as I personally hate XML used for data ( it 's supposed to be a document markup ) , it would be appropriate here .
A transaction charge is a document , anyway .
But even XML is not fool proof .
The lower they keep paying programmers , the more they will be letting in fools.If you knew what I know , you 'd chuckle and share this story with some of your buddies in development and certification.While at some development office somewhere , most of them are watching someone over in the corner sweating bullets.At least it did n't overbill the cardholders by $ .08/transaction .
That would suck .
This is easy by comparison .
Just fix the report data .
Piece of cake .
Evening 's worth of coding and slam it out in off-peak time .
Hahahahaha ! I 'm one of those people that refuses to take no for an answer from CSRs even if it 's just one penny off , and even if it 's off in my favor ( because I know the auditors will fix it if it 's not in the bank 's favor ) .One question : How much of this stuff is still in COBOL ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work in this industry.
The only novelty here is that the error got into production, and was not caught and corrected before it went that far.That explains why there are so many software testers currently looking for work.
The CC industry doesn't use as many of them, anymore.Some submitters do, from time to time, change their code, and sometimes they get it wrong.
For instance padding a field with spaces instead of zeros.
Woopsie...!You're still using legacy zero padding?
You should be doing things in XML.Seems that's what happened here.
Sounds like a hex or dec field got padded with hex 20, and boom.Not quite.
If it were padded with space characters, you get 0x20 in each byte (and that's just what this number had in the first 6 of 8 bytes).
If it were padded with zero characters, you would get 34,723,282,962,276,803.04 or so.The REAL problem here is that the code was interpreting 64 bits as internal binary integer, when the data that arrived was at least 6 ASCII space characters.
In other words, the data was in an old legacy format with space padding (which is easily handled by decimal conversion code along with zero padding), but the code expected a raw 64 bit integer, perhaps in the big-endian byte order.This is annoying, especially when the processor gets to help correct the overwhelming number of errors, and then tries to explain that it wasn't their fault.
Plenty of blame to go around with this one.It was clearly someone's fault.
Possibly a programmer not applying the proper field conversion?
Perhaps the code was intended field conversion in place (replace the memory that has ASCII digit characters with the binary representation) and the conversion bailed out for some reason and the calling code didn't properly detect that (hint: in today's dollar amounts, the highest order byte of 64 bit integers should be zero).Even if a programmer is to blame, management is not blameless.
And maybe it's not even a programmer to blame.
Ultimately, the real blame does lie with management who should have seen to it that errors never happen.
Of course, errors do happen and while the blame may be correct, it's really cheaper apply 99.999\% perfection instead of 100\% perfection.
It's not that serious a blame ... at least as long as problems get corrected.And then explains why they don't both validate/sanitize input, and test for at least some reasonable maximum value in the transaction amount.
A max amount of $10,000,000 would have fixed this.
That and an obvious lapse in testing.
This is what keeps my bosses awake sometimes, fearing they will end up on the front page of the fishwrap looking stupid 'cause their overworked minions screwed something up, or didn't check, or didn't test very well.
I love one of the guys we have testing.
He's insufferable, and he catches genuine show-stoppers on a regular basis.
They can't pay him what he's been worth, literally $millions, just in avoiding downtime and re-working code that went too far down the wrong path.I don't know that $10,000,000 would be high enough.
The kind of error this one is could be detected with a test against 2 to the 56th power.
A lower test might catch other errors.
And whatever tests are done, they should be in their own class, module, function, macro, or whatever, and separate from the mainline code.
Two tests should be applied, one being conservatively high but fixed by the coders (e.g.
the 2 to the 56th power test) and the other being configurable for code used by multiple processors (they can choose their own closer to the edge sanity check).Believe me, this is in some ways preferable to getting files with one byte wrong that doesn't show up for a month, or sending the wrong data format (hex instead of packed binary or EBCDIC, for instance) and crashing the process completely.
Please, I know data should never IPL a system.
Tell it to the architects, please.
As if they don't know now, after the one crash...As much as I personally hate XML used for data (it's supposed to be a document markup), it would be appropriate here.
A transaction charge is a document, anyway.
But even XML is not fool proof.
The lower they keep paying programmers, the more they will be letting in fools.If you knew what I know, you'd chuckle and share this story with some of your buddies in development and certification.While at some development office somewhere, most of them are watching someone over in the corner sweating bullets.At least it didn't overbill the cardholders by $.08/transaction.
That would suck.
This is easy by comparison.
Just fix the report data.
Piece of cake.
Evening's worth of coding and slam it out in off-peak time.
Hahahahaha!I'm one of those people that refuses to take no for an answer from CSRs even if it's just one penny off, and even if it's off in my favor (because I know the auditors will fix it if it's not in the bank's favor).One question: How much of this stuff is still in COBOL?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708809</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28713415</id>
	<title>Almost $100k in interest per millisecond.</title>
	<author>Ihlosi</author>
	<datestamp>1247774400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yikes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yikes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yikes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708397</id>
	<title>Sounds about right.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247652900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looks like the Chinese are buying the rest of the solar system after owning the USA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like the Chinese are buying the rest of the solar system after owning the USA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like the Chinese are buying the rest of the solar system after owning the USA.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709289</id>
	<title>Explanation makes sense</title>
	<author>BlindSpot</author>
	<datestamp>1247656800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kudos to whoever figured that out.  I am working on a project that sends dollar amounts for invoicing to PeopleSoft in flat files, and the format for all currency fields is exactly the one described:  16.4 digits, zero padded.  So it seems perfectly plausible to me, not to mention very relevant.  Hey maybe Visa uses PeopleSoft too... *shudder*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kudos to whoever figured that out .
I am working on a project that sends dollar amounts for invoicing to PeopleSoft in flat files , and the format for all currency fields is exactly the one described : 16.4 digits , zero padded .
So it seems perfectly plausible to me , not to mention very relevant .
Hey maybe Visa uses PeopleSoft too... * shudder *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kudos to whoever figured that out.
I am working on a project that sends dollar amounts for invoicing to PeopleSoft in flat files, and the format for all currency fields is exactly the one described:  16.4 digits, zero padded.
So it seems perfectly plausible to me, not to mention very relevant.
Hey maybe Visa uses PeopleSoft too... *shudder*</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709129</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>Beerdood</author>
	<datestamp>1247656020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>For fuck's sake, people, the credit card guys haven't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet, and this guy thinks that it is already on the books?</p></div><p>Maybe he read <a href="http://www.philly.com/inquirer/columnists/monica\_yant\_kinney/20090712\_Monica\_Yant\_Kinney\_\_If\_mom\_can\_t\_pay\_\_adult\_child\_must.html" title="philly.com" rel="nofollow"> this</a> [philly.com] article the other day.  Basically the son gets sued for a medical bill because mom didn't pay it.  Who would think such an arcane law still existed?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For fuck 's sake , people , the credit card guys have n't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet , and this guy thinks that it is already on the books ? Maybe he read this [ philly.com ] article the other day .
Basically the son gets sued for a medical bill because mom did n't pay it .
Who would think such an arcane law still existed ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For fuck's sake, people, the credit card guys haven't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet, and this guy thinks that it is already on the books?Maybe he read  this [philly.com] article the other day.
Basically the son gets sued for a medical bill because mom didn't pay it.
Who would think such an arcane law still existed?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710687</id>
	<title>Only a few</title>
	<author>mqduck</author>
	<datestamp>1247664120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>In a statement, Visa said the rogue charges affected "fewer than 13,000 prepaid transactions"</p></div><p>Wow. Does that statement even need comment?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In a statement , Visa said the rogue charges affected " fewer than 13,000 prepaid transactions " Wow .
Does that statement even need comment ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In a statement, Visa said the rogue charges affected "fewer than 13,000 prepaid transactions"Wow.
Does that statement even need comment?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708723</id>
	<title>Re:What about Unicode?</title>
	<author>O'Nazareth</author>
	<datestamp>1247654520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unicode needs at least 18 bits, which does not fit into 16. UTF-16 is pretty useless. Maybe UTF-32 is more logical so you never have escape sequences. But to save space, in general UTF-8 is a lot better.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unicode needs at least 18 bits , which does not fit into 16 .
UTF-16 is pretty useless .
Maybe UTF-32 is more logical so you never have escape sequences .
But to save space , in general UTF-8 is a lot better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unicode needs at least 18 bits, which does not fit into 16.
UTF-16 is pretty useless.
Maybe UTF-32 is more logical so you never have escape sequences.
But to save space, in general UTF-8 is a lot better.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708415</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28717373</id>
	<title>Fortunately...</title>
	<author>byrdfl3w</author>
	<datestamp>1247761500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Fortunately for Visa none of the affected customers will be suing, as they all died of heart attacks upon opening their credit card statements.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fortunately for Visa none of the affected customers will be suing , as they all died of heart attacks upon opening their credit card statements .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fortunately for Visa none of the affected customers will be suing, as they all died of heart attacks upon opening their credit card statements.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710617</id>
	<title>C# Error?</title>
	<author>Nom du Keyboard</author>
	<datestamp>1247663700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sounds like the kind of error you could make in C#.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like the kind of error you could make in C # .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like the kind of error you could make in C#.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711079</id>
	<title>Re:I can hear the radio ads now</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247667120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"Do you owe $23 quadrillion or more on your credit cards?  Well I'm about to tell you a secret that the credit card companies don't want you to know.  You can settle your debt for pennies on the dollar and get out of debt fast!"</p></div><p>Pennies on the dollar?! You mean I can settle my debt for only $230 trillion? Wow!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Do you owe $ 23 quadrillion or more on your credit cards ?
Well I 'm about to tell you a secret that the credit card companies do n't want you to know .
You can settle your debt for pennies on the dollar and get out of debt fast !
" Pennies on the dollar ? !
You mean I can settle my debt for only $ 230 trillion ?
Wow !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Do you owe $23 quadrillion or more on your credit cards?
Well I'm about to tell you a secret that the credit card companies don't want you to know.
You can settle your debt for pennies on the dollar and get out of debt fast!
"Pennies on the dollar?!
You mean I can settle my debt for only $230 trillion?
Wow!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708529</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708747</id>
	<title>Re:Yeeeaaaaahh...</title>
	<author>Pulse\_Instance</author>
	<datestamp>1247654580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The only time I've heard of the glitch that favoured the consumer is when they are on a man hunt to find the family that ran away with the $100 million that suddenly popped up in their bank account.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only time I 've heard of the glitch that favoured the consumer is when they are on a man hunt to find the family that ran away with the $ 100 million that suddenly popped up in their bank account .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only time I've heard of the glitch that favoured the consumer is when they are on a man hunt to find the family that ran away with the $100 million that suddenly popped up in their bank account.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708523</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708587</id>
	<title>Will the IRS tax any party for this in any way tip</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1247653800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will the IRS tax any party for this in any way tipped workers look out you may end up owning 15\% of $23,148,855,308,184,500.00 of the bill even if this is a error yes the IRS is evil like that some times like that.</p><p>Will people get back billed / end up on a baned list as visa seems to be whipping out the full charge is the real charge lost now?</p><p>Will people get all there overdrafts taken off or just one even if they are not at error for all of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will the IRS tax any party for this in any way tipped workers look out you may end up owning 15 \ % of $ 23,148,855,308,184,500.00 of the bill even if this is a error yes the IRS is evil like that some times like that.Will people get back billed / end up on a baned list as visa seems to be whipping out the full charge is the real charge lost now ? Will people get all there overdrafts taken off or just one even if they are not at error for all of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will the IRS tax any party for this in any way tipped workers look out you may end up owning 15\% of $23,148,855,308,184,500.00 of the bill even if this is a error yes the IRS is evil like that some times like that.Will people get back billed / end up on a baned list as visa seems to be whipping out the full charge is the real charge lost now?Will people get all there overdrafts taken off or just one even if they are not at error for all of them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711629</id>
	<title>Screenshot</title>
	<author>hanzoach</author>
	<datestamp>1247671200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone have the screenshot ? *checking dailywtf*</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone have the screenshot ?
* checking dailywtf *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone have the screenshot ?
*checking dailywtf*</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708411</id>
	<title>Re:At least it wasn't EBCDIC</title>
	<author>snspdaarf</author>
	<datestamp>1247653020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>One big ASCII charge!</htmltext>
<tokenext>One big ASCII charge !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One big ASCII charge!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708361</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709239</id>
	<title>32767</title>
	<author>sureshc</author>
	<datestamp>1247656560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This reminds me of the time I transferred 100,000 miles from my Amex rewards account to one of my airline mileage accounts.  I initiated the transfer on the Amex website.  When I logged into the airline web site to confirm the transfer, I saw that it had been transferred in increments:<br>32767,<br>32767,<br>32767,<br>and finally 1699<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This reminds me of the time I transferred 100,000 miles from my Amex rewards account to one of my airline mileage accounts .
I initiated the transfer on the Amex website .
When I logged into the airline web site to confirm the transfer , I saw that it had been transferred in increments : 32767,32767,32767,and finally 1699 ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This reminds me of the time I transferred 100,000 miles from my Amex rewards account to one of my airline mileage accounts.
I initiated the transfer on the Amex website.
When I logged into the airline web site to confirm the transfer, I saw that it had been transferred in increments:32767,32767,32767,and finally 1699 ;)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711403</id>
	<title>Re:of course they didn't reverse interest charges.</title>
	<author>afabbro</author>
	<datestamp>1247669520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>But just think of the airline miles!</htmltext>
<tokenext>But just think of the airline miles !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But just think of the airline miles!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708369</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28718693</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the big deal?</title>
	<author>fm6</author>
	<datestamp>1247766120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's all part of Obama's Socialist Agenda. Tax all the quadrillionaires until they're poor starving billionaires!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's all part of Obama 's Socialist Agenda .
Tax all the quadrillionaires until they 're poor starving billionaires !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's all part of Obama's Socialist Agenda.
Tax all the quadrillionaires until they're poor starving billionaires!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708417</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710909</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247665680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>     Well, I agree with you, his attitude is skewed but follow this line of reasoning, it's logical:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Companies have been giving people large lines of credit and large loans for years.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; People go into heavy debts that they cannot possibly repay, and companies will still give them MORE credit.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Companies, are in it to make money.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Conclusion: It would be reasonable based on this information to assume any debts that cannot be paid by someone's estate would be passed on generationally somehow.  It's more reasonable than the reality of these financial institutions almost bankrupting themselves via bad loans.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I agree with you , his attitude is skewed but follow this line of reasoning , it 's logical :           Companies have been giving people large lines of credit and large loans for years .
          People go into heavy debts that they can not possibly repay , and companies will still give them MORE credit .
          Companies , are in it to make money .
          Conclusion : It would be reasonable based on this information to assume any debts that can not be paid by someone 's estate would be passed on generationally somehow .
It 's more reasonable than the reality of these financial institutions almost bankrupting themselves via bad loans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>     Well, I agree with you, his attitude is skewed but follow this line of reasoning, it's logical:
          Companies have been giving people large lines of credit and large loans for years.
          People go into heavy debts that they cannot possibly repay, and companies will still give them MORE credit.
          Companies, are in it to make money.
          Conclusion: It would be reasonable based on this information to assume any debts that cannot be paid by someone's estate would be passed on generationally somehow.
It's more reasonable than the reality of these financial institutions almost bankrupting themselves via bad loans.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28712473</id>
	<title>Re:Been there</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247679120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nothing a good fire can't solve...just steel the right guy's stapler and you're all set!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nothing a good fire ca n't solve...just steel the right guy 's stapler and you 're all set !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nothing a good fire can't solve...just steel the right guy's stapler and you're all set!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708543</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711017</id>
	<title>The United States is right behind him..</title>
	<author>Neanderthal Ninny</author>
	<datestamp>1247666640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since our national debit has just hit 1 trillion dollars, we in the United States of American will be second to him in debit.<br>I'm very surprised that credit card company, bank or anybody else didn't have any alarm bells (more air raid sirens in this case) when this went through. Also I thought there will be limit on anyone could charge, not only the credit card, bank or even this case, the nation could get.<br>This shows there is something wrong with the financial system and that is the understatement of the century.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since our national debit has just hit 1 trillion dollars , we in the United States of American will be second to him in debit.I 'm very surprised that credit card company , bank or anybody else did n't have any alarm bells ( more air raid sirens in this case ) when this went through .
Also I thought there will be limit on anyone could charge , not only the credit card , bank or even this case , the nation could get.This shows there is something wrong with the financial system and that is the understatement of the century .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since our national debit has just hit 1 trillion dollars, we in the United States of American will be second to him in debit.I'm very surprised that credit card company, bank or anybody else didn't have any alarm bells (more air raid sirens in this case) when this went through.
Also I thought there will be limit on anyone could charge, not only the credit card, bank or even this case, the nation could get.This shows there is something wrong with the financial system and that is the understatement of the century.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708939</id>
	<title>Re:Will the IRS tax any party for this in any way</title>
	<author>jd</author>
	<datestamp>1247655360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the other hand, there'd be a hell of a tax break for someone shown as paying 23 quadrillion dollars to the Visa CEO's favourite charity. Lifetime immunity?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the other hand , there 'd be a hell of a tax break for someone shown as paying 23 quadrillion dollars to the Visa CEO 's favourite charity .
Lifetime immunity ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the other hand, there'd be a hell of a tax break for someone shown as paying 23 quadrillion dollars to the Visa CEO's favourite charity.
Lifetime immunity?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708587</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708843</id>
	<title>Visa Rewards?</title>
	<author>WTSane</author>
	<datestamp>1247655060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hope it was on one of the cards that gives him 1\% cash back.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope it was on one of the cards that gives him 1 \ % cash back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope it was on one of the cards that gives him 1\% cash back.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709937</id>
	<title>Re:Sorry but........</title>
	<author>GrumblyStuff</author>
	<datestamp>1247659980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder what would have happened if he sat on it for another billing period.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder what would have happened if he sat on it for another billing period .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder what would have happened if he sat on it for another billing period.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708849</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28713041</id>
	<title>Totally</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247684160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is hilarious; there's actually more Emoney than there is real money.  Think about that - stored electric impulses which amount to something of transactionable value.  The system is now so flawed that it's off it's freakin' rocker!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is hilarious ; there 's actually more Emoney than there is real money .
Think about that - stored electric impulses which amount to something of transactionable value .
The system is now so flawed that it 's off it 's freakin ' rocker !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is hilarious; there's actually more Emoney than there is real money.
Think about that - stored electric impulses which amount to something of transactionable value.
The system is now so flawed that it's off it's freakin' rocker!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709415</id>
	<title>Re:I can hear the radio ads now</title>
	<author>AdmiralXyz</author>
	<datestamp>1247657340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You can settle your debt for pennies on the dollar and get out of debt fast!</p></div><p>I had no idea I could be debt-free for as little as $70 trillion! I'm glad I made that phone call!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can settle your debt for pennies on the dollar and get out of debt fast ! I had no idea I could be debt-free for as little as $ 70 trillion !
I 'm glad I made that phone call !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can settle your debt for pennies on the dollar and get out of debt fast!I had no idea I could be debt-free for as little as $70 trillion!
I'm glad I made that phone call!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708529</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708685</id>
	<title>Re:Yeeeaaaaahh...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247654280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>What part of this benefits VISA? It makes them look like morons and costs them a a whole bunch extra in customer support calls - both from people directly effected and others who want to play the 'I've lost confidence in your ability to report my bill correctly' card.

If you mean billing errors tend to favour companies, consider that most billing errors in a customers favour (whether they're discovered or not) won't be publicised - unless they're huge and rare like this one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What part of this benefits VISA ?
It makes them look like morons and costs them a a whole bunch extra in customer support calls - both from people directly effected and others who want to play the 'I 've lost confidence in your ability to report my bill correctly ' card .
If you mean billing errors tend to favour companies , consider that most billing errors in a customers favour ( whether they 're discovered or not ) wo n't be publicised - unless they 're huge and rare like this one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What part of this benefits VISA?
It makes them look like morons and costs them a a whole bunch extra in customer support calls - both from people directly effected and others who want to play the 'I've lost confidence in your ability to report my bill correctly' card.
If you mean billing errors tend to favour companies, consider that most billing errors in a customers favour (whether they're discovered or not) won't be publicised - unless they're huge and rare like this one.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708523</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709497</id>
	<title>Re:Only Notice Large Glitches</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247657760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Charge <b>several thousand</b> people $2.31 too much and you can make an alright profit.</p></div><p>Let's see... 2000 x $2.31 is, er, around $4620. Yes indeed, big mamou, yes indeed.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Charge several thousand people $ 2.31 too much and you can make an alright profit.Let 's see... 2000 x $ 2.31 is , er , around $ 4620 .
Yes indeed , big mamou , yes indeed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Charge several thousand people $2.31 too much and you can make an alright profit.Let's see... 2000 x $2.31 is, er, around $4620.
Yes indeed, big mamou, yes indeed.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708755</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709143</id>
	<title>Re:I can hear the radio ads now</title>
	<author>calmofthestorm</author>
	<datestamp>1247656080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pennies on the dollar is still far, far more than anyone can afford here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pennies on the dollar is still far , far more than anyone can afford here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pennies on the dollar is still far, far more than anyone can afford here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708529</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28713893</id>
	<title>Re:Not an error</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247736660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And how Bush was paying for all the wars, torture, assassination hit sqauds etc?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And how Bush was paying for all the wars , torture , assassination hit sqauds etc ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And how Bush was paying for all the wars, torture, assassination hit sqauds etc?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708401</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710995</id>
	<title>Well...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247666460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If there were space padding in the field, would not every transaction suffer?  Why only a couple of transactions?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If there were space padding in the field , would not every transaction suffer ?
Why only a couple of transactions ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there were space padding in the field, would not every transaction suffer?
Why only a couple of transactions?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709503</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247657760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can only sue if you have suffered emotional damage. Mental scarring is a x3 multiplier.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can only sue if you have suffered emotional damage .
Mental scarring is a x3 multiplier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can only sue if you have suffered emotional damage.
Mental scarring is a x3 multiplier.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709491</id>
	<title>Don't Complain...Return the Item for Credit !!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247657760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Stupid Customer -- Don't Complain...Return the Item for Credit !!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Stupid Customer -- Do n't Complain...Return the Item for Credit ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stupid Customer -- Don't Complain...Return the Item for Credit !!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708369</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708477</id>
	<title>Visa just testing their systems for hyperinflation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247653260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lets hope they didn't underestimate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lets hope they did n't underestimate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lets hope they didn't underestimate.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709173</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the big deal?</title>
	<author>jachim69</author>
	<datestamp>1247656200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Remove the 0x20 padding, convert back to decimal and divide by 100 and you get $46.88</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Remove the 0x20 padding , convert back to decimal and divide by 100 and you get $ 46.88</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remove the 0x20 padding, convert back to decimal and divide by 100 and you get $46.88</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708417</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710779</id>
	<title>Re:I can hear the radio ads now</title>
	<author>CodeBuster</author>
	<datestamp>1247664720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You can settle your debt for pennies on the dollar and get out of debt fast</p></div><p>What a relief, now you can settle your $23 quadrillion debt for mere trillions. By Grapthar's hammer, what a savings!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can settle your debt for pennies on the dollar and get out of debt fastWhat a relief , now you can settle your $ 23 quadrillion debt for mere trillions .
By Grapthar 's hammer , what a savings !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can settle your debt for pennies on the dollar and get out of debt fastWhat a relief, now you can settle your $23 quadrillion debt for mere trillions.
By Grapthar's hammer, what a savings!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708529</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708739</id>
	<title>Signed or Unsigned?</title>
	<author>jbezorg</author>
	<datestamp>1247654580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is anybody else wondering what you would get to spend and turn the charge into a negative?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is anybody else wondering what you would get to spend and turn the charge into a negative ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is anybody else wondering what you would get to spend and turn the charge into a negative?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709197</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>jachim69</author>
	<datestamp>1247656320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ever think that it's just some artistic license.... a littler hyperbole maybe?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ever think that it 's just some artistic license.... a littler hyperbole maybe ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ever think that it's just some artistic license.... a littler hyperbole maybe?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709277</id>
	<title>Accounting question</title>
	<author>JobyOne</author>
	<datestamp>1247656800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Until this debt is reversed can Visa leverage it?<br> <br>

Even at a paltry 5:1 they could buy THE WORLD.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Until this debt is reversed can Visa leverage it ?
Even at a paltry 5 : 1 they could buy THE WORLD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Until this debt is reversed can Visa leverage it?
Even at a paltry 5:1 they could buy THE WORLD.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708417</id>
	<title>So what's the big deal?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247653020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> Isn't that about the cost of a couple of packs of smokes and a bag of chips at one of those gas station stores?  If he filled up the truck, too...well, that would just about account for it. </p><p> Dude should shut up and pay what he owes. </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't that about the cost of a couple of packs of smokes and a bag of chips at one of those gas station stores ?
If he filled up the truck , too...well , that would just about account for it .
Dude should shut up and pay what he owes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Isn't that about the cost of a couple of packs of smokes and a bag of chips at one of those gas station stores?
If he filled up the truck, too...well, that would just about account for it.
Dude should shut up and pay what he owes. </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708633</id>
	<title>Re:Yeeeaaaaahh...</title>
	<author>asolidvoid</author>
	<datestamp>1247653980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But just think of all the frequent flier miles that the customers just accrued!</htmltext>
<tokenext>But just think of all the frequent flier miles that the customers just accrued !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But just think of all the frequent flier miles that the customers just accrued!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708523</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708829</id>
	<title>My question...</title>
	<author>T-Bucket</author>
	<datestamp>1247655000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does he still get the airline miles for that one?  I mean, even at 1 mile per dollar spent.... He can now book a first class ticket to mars...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does he still get the airline miles for that one ?
I mean , even at 1 mile per dollar spent.... He can now book a first class ticket to mars.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does he still get the airline miles for that one?
I mean, even at 1 mile per dollar spent.... He can now book a first class ticket to mars...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711859</id>
	<title>Wife found the statement ...</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1247672880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... and asked for an explaination.</p><p>"What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... and asked for an explaination .
" What happens in Vegas , stays in Vegas .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... and asked for an explaination.
"What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711767</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing to see here, keep moving along please..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247672100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I used to work in the industry, the parent post takes me back.  The rambling sentences, the mild hysteria, the whiff of over-caffeination... that is credit transaction processing, never a good nights sleep.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to work in the industry , the parent post takes me back .
The rambling sentences , the mild hysteria , the whiff of over-caffeination... that is credit transaction processing , never a good nights sleep .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to work in the industry, the parent post takes me back.
The rambling sentences, the mild hysteria, the whiff of over-caffeination... that is credit transaction processing, never a good nights sleep.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708809</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711845</id>
	<title>Is charges stored in a 64 bit int?  Is it signed?</title>
	<author>Alascom</author>
	<datestamp>1247672760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder what a charge of $18,446,744,073,709,551,617.00 would do... $1 charge? (0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF + 2)<br>Or maybe $9,223,372,036,854,775,809.00?  Would that result in a $1 credit? (signed int?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder what a charge of $ 18,446,744,073,709,551,617.00 would do... $ 1 charge ?
( 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF + 2 ) Or maybe $ 9,223,372,036,854,775,809.00 ?
Would that result in a $ 1 credit ?
( signed int ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder what a charge of $18,446,744,073,709,551,617.00 would do... $1 charge?
(0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF + 2)Or maybe $9,223,372,036,854,775,809.00?
Would that result in a $1 credit?
(signed int?
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28719319</id>
	<title>Re:What is truly appalling...</title>
	<author>fm6</author>
	<datestamp>1247768640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uhm, you want the same programmers who couldn't keep track of their pointers to add validity checks? Yeah, that'll work.</p><p>This kind of error is actually nothing new. The business with all those 0x20s (do they really store dollar values in 64-bit integers?) Is reminiscent of a snafu I read about back when punched cards where the main data input medium.</p><p>To understand what happened you need to know how 80-column IBM punched cards worked. (Here's a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FortranCardPROJ039.agr.jpg" title="wikipedia.org">picture</a> [wikipedia.org] of such a card. It's printed to show how the columns are allocated for FORTRAN source code, but that doesn't affect how the card actually works.) Each column represents an alphanumeric value. A single punch in the numbered rows meant a numeric digit. Other characters were encoded by combinations I won't go into (more details <a href="http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/cards/codes.html" title="uiowa.edu">here</a> [uiowa.edu]); suffice to say that the letters A through R were represented by a punch in the zone rows (the top two rows above the numeric rows) combined with a numeric punch. In particular, the later A is represented by a punch in the top row combined with a punch in the 1 row.</p><p>Now then, one fine day a keypunch operator is inputting data for a town that taxes personal property. (I don't remember the specific figures, so I'll make some up to illustrate what happened.) A guy owns a car valued at $200. In the card used for inputting the tax data for the car, ten columns are set aside for the assessed value. The operator should have punched "\_\_\_\_\_20000" (using \_ to represent blank columns with no punch). But his finger slipped, and he input "A\_\_\_\_20000".</p><p>Any properly designed language runtime would have choked on this input (alphabetic data in a numeric field). The language runtime (FORTRAN I think, or maybe COBOL) was <i>not</i> properly designed. In a numeric field, any blank column in a numeric field was assumed to represent 0 &mdash; and the zone punches were simply ignored! End result: the value of the car was recorded as $10,000,200.00. With a 0.5\% tax on personal property, the guy was sent a bill taxing his $200 car at $50,001. (Like I said, these figures are imaginary, but they're in the ballpark.) He didn't have to pay, of course, but by the time he protested his bill, the city budget had already been drawn up, and had to be hastily revised based on $50K (about $300K in today's money) suddenly evaporating.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uhm , you want the same programmers who could n't keep track of their pointers to add validity checks ?
Yeah , that 'll work.This kind of error is actually nothing new .
The business with all those 0x20s ( do they really store dollar values in 64-bit integers ?
) Is reminiscent of a snafu I read about back when punched cards where the main data input medium.To understand what happened you need to know how 80-column IBM punched cards worked .
( Here 's a picture [ wikipedia.org ] of such a card .
It 's printed to show how the columns are allocated for FORTRAN source code , but that does n't affect how the card actually works .
) Each column represents an alphanumeric value .
A single punch in the numbered rows meant a numeric digit .
Other characters were encoded by combinations I wo n't go into ( more details here [ uiowa.edu ] ) ; suffice to say that the letters A through R were represented by a punch in the zone rows ( the top two rows above the numeric rows ) combined with a numeric punch .
In particular , the later A is represented by a punch in the top row combined with a punch in the 1 row.Now then , one fine day a keypunch operator is inputting data for a town that taxes personal property .
( I do n't remember the specific figures , so I 'll make some up to illustrate what happened .
) A guy owns a car valued at $ 200 .
In the card used for inputting the tax data for the car , ten columns are set aside for the assessed value .
The operator should have punched " \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _20000 " ( using \ _ to represent blank columns with no punch ) .
But his finger slipped , and he input " A \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _20000 " .Any properly designed language runtime would have choked on this input ( alphabetic data in a numeric field ) .
The language runtime ( FORTRAN I think , or maybe COBOL ) was not properly designed .
In a numeric field , any blank column in a numeric field was assumed to represent 0    and the zone punches were simply ignored !
End result : the value of the car was recorded as $ 10,000,200.00 .
With a 0.5 \ % tax on personal property , the guy was sent a bill taxing his $ 200 car at $ 50,001 .
( Like I said , these figures are imaginary , but they 're in the ballpark .
) He did n't have to pay , of course , but by the time he protested his bill , the city budget had already been drawn up , and had to be hastily revised based on $ 50K ( about $ 300K in today 's money ) suddenly evaporating .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uhm, you want the same programmers who couldn't keep track of their pointers to add validity checks?
Yeah, that'll work.This kind of error is actually nothing new.
The business with all those 0x20s (do they really store dollar values in 64-bit integers?
) Is reminiscent of a snafu I read about back when punched cards where the main data input medium.To understand what happened you need to know how 80-column IBM punched cards worked.
(Here's a picture [wikipedia.org] of such a card.
It's printed to show how the columns are allocated for FORTRAN source code, but that doesn't affect how the card actually works.
) Each column represents an alphanumeric value.
A single punch in the numbered rows meant a numeric digit.
Other characters were encoded by combinations I won't go into (more details here [uiowa.edu]); suffice to say that the letters A through R were represented by a punch in the zone rows (the top two rows above the numeric rows) combined with a numeric punch.
In particular, the later A is represented by a punch in the top row combined with a punch in the 1 row.Now then, one fine day a keypunch operator is inputting data for a town that taxes personal property.
(I don't remember the specific figures, so I'll make some up to illustrate what happened.
) A guy owns a car valued at $200.
In the card used for inputting the tax data for the car, ten columns are set aside for the assessed value.
The operator should have punched "\_\_\_\_\_20000" (using \_ to represent blank columns with no punch).
But his finger slipped, and he input "A\_\_\_\_20000".Any properly designed language runtime would have choked on this input (alphabetic data in a numeric field).
The language runtime (FORTRAN I think, or maybe COBOL) was not properly designed.
In a numeric field, any blank column in a numeric field was assumed to represent 0 — and the zone punches were simply ignored!
End result: the value of the car was recorded as $10,000,200.00.
With a 0.5\% tax on personal property, the guy was sent a bill taxing his $200 car at $50,001.
(Like I said, these figures are imaginary, but they're in the ballpark.
) He didn't have to pay, of course, but by the time he protested his bill, the city budget had already been drawn up, and had to be hastily revised based on $50K (about $300K in today's money) suddenly evaporating.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708485</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709469</id>
	<title>Miles</title>
	<author>ec\_hack</author>
	<datestamp>1247657640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Think of the frequent flyer miles. First class to the moon and back on PanAm!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Think of the frequent flyer miles .
First class to the moon and back on PanAm !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Think of the frequent flyer miles.
First class to the moon and back on PanAm!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28713549</id>
	<title>Re:Been there</title>
	<author>IHC Navistar</author>
	<datestamp>1247775660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>.....Well this is NOT a mundane detail, Michael!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.....Well this is NOT a mundane detail , Michael !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.....Well this is NOT a mundane detail, Michael!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708543</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708759</id>
	<title>probably was an offshore mistake.....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247654640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>so much for that contract.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>so much for that contract .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so much for that contract.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709545</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the big deal?</title>
	<author>sgt scrub</author>
	<datestamp>1247657940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If he filled up the truck, too...</p></div><p>Only if it was a dually diesel 3/4 ton with a rope in the back window.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If he filled up the truck , too...Only if it was a dually diesel 3/4 ton with a rope in the back window .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If he filled up the truck, too...Only if it was a dually diesel 3/4 ton with a rope in the back window.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708417</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28725327</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>Lord\_Breetai</author>
	<datestamp>1247754540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>For fuck's sake, people, the credit card guys haven't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet, and this guy thinks that it is already on the books?</i></p><p>He must have thought it was a student loan for a moment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For fuck 's sake , people , the credit card guys have n't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet , and this guy thinks that it is already on the books ? He must have thought it was a student loan for a moment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For fuck's sake, people, the credit card guys haven't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet, and this guy thinks that it is already on the books?He must have thought it was a student loan for a moment.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711615</id>
	<title>Re:I can hear the radio ads now</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247671140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>pennies on the dollar huh?  well, only $0.23 quadrillion sure would make it all better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>pennies on the dollar huh ?
well , only $ 0.23 quadrillion sure would make it all better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>pennies on the dollar huh?
well, only $0.23 quadrillion sure would make it all better.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708529</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28719661</id>
	<title>Re:Been there</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247769720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or maybe you were <a href="http://www.agnesscott.edu/LRIDDLE/WOMEN/hopper.htm" title="agnesscott.edu" rel="nofollow">accidentaly balancing your statement in octal</a> [agnesscott.edu]?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or maybe you were accidentaly balancing your statement in octal [ agnesscott.edu ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or maybe you were accidentaly balancing your statement in octal [agnesscott.edu]?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708543</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708583</id>
	<title>Re:of course they didn't reverse interest charges.</title>
	<author>avandesande</author>
	<datestamp>1247653800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously though the Visa transaction charge of 2\% = 462,977,106,163,690<br>How could this transaction go through?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously though the Visa transaction charge of 2 \ % = 462,977,106,163,690How could this transaction go through ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously though the Visa transaction charge of 2\% = 462,977,106,163,690How could this transaction go through?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708369</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708605</id>
	<title>I always do that</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247653860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I always miss some mundane little detail</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I always miss some mundane little detail</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always miss some mundane little detail</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28720243</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing to see here, keep moving along please..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247771880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>well i don't really care how it happened, I'm just pissed that it did and I had no money for 2 days. I was unable to pick up medication that I needed, I couldn't drive over a couple miles because I couldn't put gas in my car. I'm glad this screw up had little effect on their life, other than a little extra work, because I was left to suffer in pain until this got figured out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>well i do n't really care how it happened , I 'm just pissed that it did and I had no money for 2 days .
I was unable to pick up medication that I needed , I could n't drive over a couple miles because I could n't put gas in my car .
I 'm glad this screw up had little effect on their life , other than a little extra work , because I was left to suffer in pain until this got figured out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>well i don't really care how it happened, I'm just pissed that it did and I had no money for 2 days.
I was unable to pick up medication that I needed, I couldn't drive over a couple miles because I couldn't put gas in my car.
I'm glad this screw up had little effect on their life, other than a little extra work, because I was left to suffer in pain until this got figured out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708809</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28713793</id>
	<title>Air miles</title>
	<author>RivenAleem</author>
	<datestamp>1247735160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Atleast he'll never have to pay for a flight again. I wonder how many airmiles he has now. Trip to the moon anyone?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Atleast he 'll never have to pay for a flight again .
I wonder how many airmiles he has now .
Trip to the moon anyone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Atleast he'll never have to pay for a flight again.
I wonder how many airmiles he has now.
Trip to the moon anyone?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710025</id>
	<title>Re:Extremely speculative.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247660460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luhn\_algorithm</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luhn \ _algorithm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luhn\_algorithm</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708875</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711359</id>
	<title>Re:64 bit charge amounts?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247669220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not that strange to choose 32 bits.</p><p>I'm presuming that the currency of billing is in a different field, in which case you've got to be able to handle the smallest unit currency in the world. If you exclude At this time I believe that's the Colombian Peso, approximatly 1/2000th the value of the US Dollar. That means that 32 Bits is obviously too small, and the next size up is 64 bits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not that strange to choose 32 bits.I 'm presuming that the currency of billing is in a different field , in which case you 've got to be able to handle the smallest unit currency in the world .
If you exclude At this time I believe that 's the Colombian Peso , approximatly 1/2000th the value of the US Dollar .
That means that 32 Bits is obviously too small , and the next size up is 64 bits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not that strange to choose 32 bits.I'm presuming that the currency of billing is in a different field, in which case you've got to be able to handle the smallest unit currency in the world.
If you exclude At this time I believe that's the Colombian Peso, approximatly 1/2000th the value of the US Dollar.
That means that 32 Bits is obviously too small, and the next size up is 64 bits.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709375</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709397</id>
	<title>Verizon accounting math sold to Visa?</title>
	<author>Mathness</author>
	<datestamp>1247657280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is that in normal or Verizon dollars?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that in normal or Verizon dollars ?
: p</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that in normal or Verizon dollars?
:p</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28713455</id>
	<title>Hex calculator...</title>
	<author>bagsta</author>
	<datestamp>1247774940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think from now on we have to carry with us a hex calculator and make all the calculations in hexadecimal...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)
<br>
(Would like a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexspeak" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">0xCAFEBABE</a> [wikipedia.org]?)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think from now on we have to carry with us a hex calculator and make all the calculations in hexadecimal... : ) ( Would like a 0xCAFEBABE [ wikipedia.org ] ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think from now on we have to carry with us a hex calculator and make all the calculations in hexadecimal... :)

(Would like a 0xCAFEBABE [wikipedia.org]?
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708523</id>
	<title>Yeeeaaaaahh...</title>
	<author>cyberchondriac</author>
	<datestamp>1247653500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Still, isn't it funny how these kinds of "computer glitches" <i>always<i> seem to benefit the company, never the customer?  Pretty interesting odds at play here.</i></i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Still , is n't it funny how these kinds of " computer glitches " always seem to benefit the company , never the customer ?
Pretty interesting odds at play here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Still, isn't it funny how these kinds of "computer glitches" always seem to benefit the company, never the customer?
Pretty interesting odds at play here.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709857</id>
	<title>Henceforth known as "telling a Fibonacci"</title>
	<author>ArundelCastle</author>
	<datestamp>1247659560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For a long time zero was represented as a space, so the coders aren't incorrect, just <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0\_(number)#Zero\_as\_a\_decimal\_digit" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">800 years behind the times.</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Compound interest is a bitch, though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For a long time zero was represented as a space , so the coders are n't incorrect , just 800 years behind the times .
[ wikipedia.org ] Compound interest is a bitch , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For a long time zero was represented as a space, so the coders aren't incorrect, just 800 years behind the times.
[wikipedia.org]Compound interest is a bitch, though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708935</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247655360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Pathetic. This guy is <i>grateful</i> that Visa condescended to fix their obvious mistake(this isn't some he said/she said billing dispute, this is someone who allegedly spent more than the world GDP at a gas station)? What is this cringing bullshit? Either this guy is just a sad sack or, rather worse, the "customer service" we get, along with the kangaroo courts that are "mandatory binding arbitration" actually make thankfulness for not being screwed a reasonable response.</p></div><p>This is such an obvious error it's actually comical.  If this happened to me I would start making the dumbest requests including, but not limited to, spending my credit card points right on the spot.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pathetic .
This guy is grateful that Visa condescended to fix their obvious mistake ( this is n't some he said/she said billing dispute , this is someone who allegedly spent more than the world GDP at a gas station ) ?
What is this cringing bullshit ?
Either this guy is just a sad sack or , rather worse , the " customer service " we get , along with the kangaroo courts that are " mandatory binding arbitration " actually make thankfulness for not being screwed a reasonable response.This is such an obvious error it 's actually comical .
If this happened to me I would start making the dumbest requests including , but not limited to , spending my credit card points right on the spot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pathetic.
This guy is grateful that Visa condescended to fix their obvious mistake(this isn't some he said/she said billing dispute, this is someone who allegedly spent more than the world GDP at a gas station)?
What is this cringing bullshit?
Either this guy is just a sad sack or, rather worse, the "customer service" we get, along with the kangaroo courts that are "mandatory binding arbitration" actually make thankfulness for not being screwed a reasonable response.This is such an obvious error it's actually comical.
If this happened to me I would start making the dumbest requests including, but not limited to, spending my credit card points right on the spot.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710929</id>
	<title>Well there you go...</title>
	<author>3seas</author>
	<datestamp>1247665800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... we now have a solution to the growing national debt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... we now have a solution to the growing national debt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... we now have a solution to the growing national debt.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28717949</id>
	<title>Re:I can hear the radio ads now</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247763660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"Do you owe $23 quadrillion or more on your credit cards?  Well I'm about to tell you a secret that the credit card companies don't want you to know.  You can settle your debt for pennies on the dollar and get out of debt fast!"</p></div><p>Still screwed. 2 percent (minimum of units described 'pennies') of 23 quadrillion is still over 400 trillion.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Do you owe $ 23 quadrillion or more on your credit cards ?
Well I 'm about to tell you a secret that the credit card companies do n't want you to know .
You can settle your debt for pennies on the dollar and get out of debt fast !
" Still screwed .
2 percent ( minimum of units described 'pennies ' ) of 23 quadrillion is still over 400 trillion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Do you owe $23 quadrillion or more on your credit cards?
Well I'm about to tell you a secret that the credit card companies don't want you to know.
You can settle your debt for pennies on the dollar and get out of debt fast!
"Still screwed.
2 percent (minimum of units described 'pennies') of 23 quadrillion is still over 400 trillion.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708529</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709779</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>forgoodmeasure</author>
	<datestamp>1247659080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Sad Thing... is that nobody appreciates comedy anymore.</p><p>Er - I think the guy was joking.  He also asked with regards to the gas station, "Can I buy Europe on pump 4?"  Somehow I doubt whether this was a serious question.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Sad Thing... is that nobody appreciates comedy anymore.Er - I think the guy was joking .
He also asked with regards to the gas station , " Can I buy Europe on pump 4 ?
" Somehow I doubt whether this was a serious question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Sad Thing... is that nobody appreciates comedy anymore.Er - I think the guy was joking.
He also asked with regards to the gas station, "Can I buy Europe on pump 4?
"  Somehow I doubt whether this was a serious question.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709151</id>
	<title>Re:reassuring...</title>
	<author>stoffel</author>
	<datestamp>1247656080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>hmmm.. I would worry if my bank approves a $23 quadrillion money transfer, without checking my limit!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>hmmm.. I would worry if my bank approves a $ 23 quadrillion money transfer , without checking my limit !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hmmm.. I would worry if my bank approves a $23 quadrillion money transfer, without checking my limit!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708737</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711129</id>
	<title>Re:I can hear the radio ads now</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1247667360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hell, if this guy can get out of a $23,148,855, uh etc. charge, surely I can get out of a measly $10,000 charge.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hell , if this guy can get out of a $ 23,148,855 , uh etc .
charge , surely I can get out of a measly $ 10,000 charge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hell, if this guy can get out of a $23,148,855, uh etc.
charge, surely I can get out of a measly $10,000 charge.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708529</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708695</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1247654340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The huge number even has the advantage of being highly noticeable.</p><p>Much worse to get screwed for $150 and not realize it than have to call your bank and tell them that their computer puked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The huge number even has the advantage of being highly noticeable.Much worse to get screwed for $ 150 and not realize it than have to call your bank and tell them that their computer puked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The huge number even has the advantage of being highly noticeable.Much worse to get screwed for $150 and not realize it than have to call your bank and tell them that their computer puked.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28718005</id>
	<title>Re:Extremely speculative.</title>
	<author>urlmaker</author>
	<datestamp>1247763840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't believe that anywhere in the US a pack of Camels is $2.31. Even in a tobacco state they are $4.50.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't believe that anywhere in the US a pack of Camels is $ 2.31 .
Even in a tobacco state they are $ 4.50 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't believe that anywhere in the US a pack of Camels is $2.31.
Even in a tobacco state they are $4.50.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28712385</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708773</id>
	<title>This could explain a lot.</title>
	<author>niktemadur</author>
	<datestamp>1247654700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Back in my college days in the early nineties, I had a debit account to which my parents deposited a modest monthly stipend, you know, student budget for weekday ramen and weekend beers.  BTW, this was in Mexico.<br>One day, while using the ATM, I was startled to see a HUGE balance in my account, to the tune of billions or more, I can't remember how much.  Of course I went back to the ATM the following day just to check the balance, and it was back to normal.<br>When it happened again the following week, just for the hell of it I withdrew a bit more than I had.  Of course, next day my account reflected the negative balance.  The huge balance repeated itself a couple more times during the span of a month, then it was gone and never occurred again.</p><p>Years later, while casually commenting on this to a couple of friends, one of them said the same thing had happened to her, but her account was in a different bank.<br>For a long time, I've thought that people within the system used the ATM grid to embezzle money, moving it through accounts to cover their tracks.  But now I'm starting to suspect it may have just been buggy programming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Back in my college days in the early nineties , I had a debit account to which my parents deposited a modest monthly stipend , you know , student budget for weekday ramen and weekend beers .
BTW , this was in Mexico.One day , while using the ATM , I was startled to see a HUGE balance in my account , to the tune of billions or more , I ca n't remember how much .
Of course I went back to the ATM the following day just to check the balance , and it was back to normal.When it happened again the following week , just for the hell of it I withdrew a bit more than I had .
Of course , next day my account reflected the negative balance .
The huge balance repeated itself a couple more times during the span of a month , then it was gone and never occurred again.Years later , while casually commenting on this to a couple of friends , one of them said the same thing had happened to her , but her account was in a different bank.For a long time , I 've thought that people within the system used the ATM grid to embezzle money , moving it through accounts to cover their tracks .
But now I 'm starting to suspect it may have just been buggy programming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Back in my college days in the early nineties, I had a debit account to which my parents deposited a modest monthly stipend, you know, student budget for weekday ramen and weekend beers.
BTW, this was in Mexico.One day, while using the ATM, I was startled to see a HUGE balance in my account, to the tune of billions or more, I can't remember how much.
Of course I went back to the ATM the following day just to check the balance, and it was back to normal.When it happened again the following week, just for the hell of it I withdrew a bit more than I had.
Of course, next day my account reflected the negative balance.
The huge balance repeated itself a couple more times during the span of a month, then it was gone and never occurred again.Years later, while casually commenting on this to a couple of friends, one of them said the same thing had happened to her, but her account was in a different bank.For a long time, I've thought that people within the system used the ATM grid to embezzle money, moving it through accounts to cover their tracks.
But now I'm starting to suspect it may have just been buggy programming.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709719</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247658840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... Is that these days, we EXPECT sloppy programming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... Is that these days , we EXPECT sloppy programming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... Is that these days, we EXPECT sloppy programming.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28712525</id>
	<title>Re:of course they didn't reverse interest charges.</title>
	<author>denobug</author>
	<datestamp>1247679600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You brought on a good point.  Since this is a debit card how does his bank account not getting freezed because he has TWO transactions exceeding $5000.00 and not getting freezed for 7-30 days by procedure to prevent money laundering...
<br> <br>
A bank did that to me while I was still in school when the financial aid finally came in.  Took them over a week after I went to the branch to have them unfreezed.  This is why I hold my main checking account with a credit union to this day, even though I have accounts with other major banks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You brought on a good point .
Since this is a debit card how does his bank account not getting freezed because he has TWO transactions exceeding $ 5000.00 and not getting freezed for 7-30 days by procedure to prevent money laundering.. . A bank did that to me while I was still in school when the financial aid finally came in .
Took them over a week after I went to the branch to have them unfreezed .
This is why I hold my main checking account with a credit union to this day , even though I have accounts with other major banks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You brought on a good point.
Since this is a debit card how does his bank account not getting freezed because he has TWO transactions exceeding $5000.00 and not getting freezed for 7-30 days by procedure to prevent money laundering...
 
A bank did that to me while I was still in school when the financial aid finally came in.
Took them over a week after I went to the branch to have them unfreezed.
This is why I hold my main checking account with a credit union to this day, even though I have accounts with other major banks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708583</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710161</id>
	<title>Re:The Money that was created by this error....</title>
	<author>curmudgeous</author>
	<datestamp>1247661240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> <b>"...Now money should not be backed by just one precious metal, but should be backed may various different precious metals..."</b> </i></p><p>Awesome!  I knew my collection of AC/DC and Metallica vinyl would be the new currency some day!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" ...Now money should not be backed by just one precious metal , but should be backed may various different precious metals... " Awesome !
I knew my collection of AC/DC and Metallica vinyl would be the new currency some day !</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "...Now money should not be backed by just one precious metal, but should be backed may various different precious metals..." Awesome!
I knew my collection of AC/DC and Metallica vinyl would be the new currency some day!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708721</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708399</id>
	<title>Re:At least it wasn't EBCDIC</title>
	<author>Electrawn</author>
	<datestamp>1247652900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good god, if Visa is still using a Unisys V Series and Burroughs terminals.... I'm switching to Mastercard!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good god , if Visa is still using a Unisys V Series and Burroughs terminals.... I 'm switching to Mastercard !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good god, if Visa is still using a Unisys V Series and Burroughs terminals.... I'm switching to Mastercard!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708361</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709583</id>
	<title>Re:Okay. The spaces make sense...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247658120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>could be a carton (12-pack), or perhaps he filled up with gas at the same time</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>could be a carton ( 12-pack ) , or perhaps he filled up with gas at the same time</tokentext>
<sentencetext>could be a carton (12-pack), or perhaps he filled up with gas at the same time</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708559</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708897</id>
	<title>Bank of America Credit-Card Charge-Offs Reach 14\%</title>
	<author>davidwr</author>
	<datestamp>1247655240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=aFAGk0jMTBb4" title="bloomberg.com" rel="nofollow">this</a> [bloomberg.com] didn't include ~12-13,000 x $2.3 x 10^16 in charge-offs.  What's that in percentage terms I wonder?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet this [ bloomberg.com ] did n't include ~ 12-13,000 x $ 2.3 x 10 ^ 16 in charge-offs .
What 's that in percentage terms I wonder ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet this [bloomberg.com] didn't include ~12-13,000 x $2.3 x 10^16 in charge-offs.
What's that in percentage terms I wonder?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708711</id>
	<title>Does binding arbitration suck?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247654400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For credit card customers?  Yes, it normally sucks.  However, if the credit card company went after you FOR 23-QUADRILLION DOLLARS, even a pro-business Arbitrator would camel-rape them with a johnson the size of Saturn.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For credit card customers ?
Yes , it normally sucks .
However , if the credit card company went after you FOR 23-QUADRILLION DOLLARS , even a pro-business Arbitrator would camel-rape them with a johnson the size of Saturn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For credit card customers?
Yes, it normally sucks.
However, if the credit card company went after you FOR 23-QUADRILLION DOLLARS, even a pro-business Arbitrator would camel-rape them with a johnson the size of Saturn.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709953</id>
	<title>Prepaid Visa Card</title>
	<author>Xerolooper</author>
	<datestamp>1247660100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A humorous nugget from the article not mentioned in the summary. This was a prepaid Visa. Just makes it that much more ridiculous. Perhaps it was his choice of storing this amount of money on a secured credit card that had him sweating. He must of built a time machine and drained his grandchild's bank account. Of course in the future that was their monthly salary.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A humorous nugget from the article not mentioned in the summary .
This was a prepaid Visa .
Just makes it that much more ridiculous .
Perhaps it was his choice of storing this amount of money on a secured credit card that had him sweating .
He must of built a time machine and drained his grandchild 's bank account .
Of course in the future that was their monthly salary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A humorous nugget from the article not mentioned in the summary.
This was a prepaid Visa.
Just makes it that much more ridiculous.
Perhaps it was his choice of storing this amount of money on a secured credit card that had him sweating.
He must of built a time machine and drained his grandchild's bank account.
Of course in the future that was their monthly salary.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709861</id>
	<title>huh...</title>
	<author>DeusExMach</author>
	<datestamp>1247659560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Add all those numbers up together, divide by 8, and flip the calculator upside down and it spells out "BOOBIES"...  weird.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Add all those numbers up together , divide by 8 , and flip the calculator upside down and it spells out " BOOBIES " ... weird .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Add all those numbers up together, divide by 8, and flip the calculator upside down and it spells out "BOOBIES"...  weird.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711937</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>db32</author>
	<datestamp>1247673600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Uhm...you are obviously missing what it said.  The bank fucked up, they erased the charge, and negated the over limit charge.  Yes...that is indeed "bank error in your favor" because you just got everything on that purchase for free due to the bank's error, it is not because they decided to not charge you a $15 fee on a $23 quadrillion dollar gas station purchase.  Also, I would like to congratulate you on your fantastic understanding of sarcasm and humor in the article.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uhm...you are obviously missing what it said .
The bank fucked up , they erased the charge , and negated the over limit charge .
Yes...that is indeed " bank error in your favor " because you just got everything on that purchase for free due to the bank 's error , it is not because they decided to not charge you a $ 15 fee on a $ 23 quadrillion dollar gas station purchase .
Also , I would like to congratulate you on your fantastic understanding of sarcasm and humor in the article .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uhm...you are obviously missing what it said.
The bank fucked up, they erased the charge, and negated the over limit charge.
Yes...that is indeed "bank error in your favor" because you just got everything on that purchase for free due to the bank's error, it is not because they decided to not charge you a $15 fee on a $23 quadrillion dollar gas station purchase.
Also, I would like to congratulate you on your fantastic understanding of sarcasm and humor in the article.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28719271</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>purpledinoz</author>
	<datestamp>1247768400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He's lucky that it wasn't Verizon who made the error. Their customer service reps aren't exactly the brightest bulbs in the broken box of bulbs.</p><p>

Customer: "I think I was overcharged. My bill says I owe $23 quadrillion dollars."<br>
Verizon: "Yes, that's what our records show."<br>
Customer: "But I only used my iPhone once to check my e-mail in Canada. I used only 100kb of data and the rate is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.002 dollars per kb."<br>
Verizon: "Yes, that amounts to $23 quadrillion dollars."<br>
Customer: "But that's many times the GDP of the entire world!"<br>
Verizon: "GD what? Look sir, pay up or we'll send the collectors."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's lucky that it was n't Verizon who made the error .
Their customer service reps are n't exactly the brightest bulbs in the broken box of bulbs .
Customer : " I think I was overcharged .
My bill says I owe $ 23 quadrillion dollars .
" Verizon : " Yes , that 's what our records show .
" Customer : " But I only used my iPhone once to check my e-mail in Canada .
I used only 100kb of data and the rate is .002 dollars per kb .
" Verizon : " Yes , that amounts to $ 23 quadrillion dollars .
" Customer : " But that 's many times the GDP of the entire world !
" Verizon : " GD what ?
Look sir , pay up or we 'll send the collectors .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's lucky that it wasn't Verizon who made the error.
Their customer service reps aren't exactly the brightest bulbs in the broken box of bulbs.
Customer: "I think I was overcharged.
My bill says I owe $23 quadrillion dollars.
"
Verizon: "Yes, that's what our records show.
"
Customer: "But I only used my iPhone once to check my e-mail in Canada.
I used only 100kb of data and the rate is .002 dollars per kb.
"
Verizon: "Yes, that amounts to $23 quadrillion dollars.
"
Customer: "But that's many times the GDP of the entire world!
"
Verizon: "GD what?
Look sir, pay up or we'll send the collectors.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709193</id>
	<title>Re:Extremely speculative.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247656320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> let us not forget that there are a lot of assumptions being made here and a lot of speculation.</p></div><p>Like the speculation that somewhere within Visa's accounting system, they store currency transactions as 8 byte integers, completely disregarding any fractional money.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>let us not forget that there are a lot of assumptions being made here and a lot of speculation.Like the speculation that somewhere within Visa 's accounting system , they store currency transactions as 8 byte integers , completely disregarding any fractional money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> let us not forget that there are a lot of assumptions being made here and a lot of speculation.Like the speculation that somewhere within Visa's accounting system, they store currency transactions as 8 byte integers, completely disregarding any fractional money.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708371</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28713729</id>
	<title>Cobol error?</title>
	<author>cazzazullu</author>
	<datestamp>1247777520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This seems a common COBOL error I've seen numerous times: Define an alphanumeric field, redefine it as a numeric field, and don't bother checking your input for "performance reasons" (or just plain stupid/lazy programming). Read the alphanumeric fields from a DB or a flat file, where everything is nicely padded with spaces, and use the redefined numeric field for your accounting. Errors like this can occur easily by novice COBOL programmers, or by too lax compilers (the compiler at the developer's firm is configured to quietly convert these spaces to zeros in such cases, while the mainframe compiler at the client is not).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This seems a common COBOL error I 've seen numerous times : Define an alphanumeric field , redefine it as a numeric field , and do n't bother checking your input for " performance reasons " ( or just plain stupid/lazy programming ) .
Read the alphanumeric fields from a DB or a flat file , where everything is nicely padded with spaces , and use the redefined numeric field for your accounting .
Errors like this can occur easily by novice COBOL programmers , or by too lax compilers ( the compiler at the developer 's firm is configured to quietly convert these spaces to zeros in such cases , while the mainframe compiler at the client is not ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This seems a common COBOL error I've seen numerous times: Define an alphanumeric field, redefine it as a numeric field, and don't bother checking your input for "performance reasons" (or just plain stupid/lazy programming).
Read the alphanumeric fields from a DB or a flat file, where everything is nicely padded with spaces, and use the redefined numeric field for your accounting.
Errors like this can occur easily by novice COBOL programmers, or by too lax compilers (the compiler at the developer's firm is configured to quietly convert these spaces to zeros in such cases, while the mainframe compiler at the client is not).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708391</id>
	<title>Minimum</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247652900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>So what was the minimum payment on that?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So what was the minimum payment on that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what was the minimum payment on that?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28714733</id>
	<title>Re:reassuring...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247747520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Samir, where's that disc? I'm telling you this plan is fool proof, its only pennies on the quadrillion!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Samir , where 's that disc ?
I 'm telling you this plan is fool proof , its only pennies on the quadrillion !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Samir, where's that disc?
I'm telling you this plan is fool proof, its only pennies on the quadrillion!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708737</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708529</id>
	<title>I can hear the radio ads now</title>
	<author>IGnatius T Foobar</author>
	<datestamp>1247653500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Do you owe $23 quadrillion or more on your credit cards?  Well I'm about to tell you a secret that the credit card companies don't want you to know.  You can settle your debt for pennies on the dollar and get out of debt fast!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Do you owe $ 23 quadrillion or more on your credit cards ?
Well I 'm about to tell you a secret that the credit card companies do n't want you to know .
You can settle your debt for pennies on the dollar and get out of debt fast !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Do you owe $23 quadrillion or more on your credit cards?
Well I'm about to tell you a secret that the credit card companies don't want you to know.
You can settle your debt for pennies on the dollar and get out of debt fast!
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708849</id>
	<title>Sorry but........</title>
	<author>S7urm</author>
	<datestamp>1247655060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lemme debunk a myth real quick for you folks.</p><p>If you EVER see a bank error "in your favor" or if your payroll check is off and you are over paid.......DO NOT SPEND THE MONEY</p><p>You will be charged for what you owe, and in some circumstances you can be prosecuted for using money that "was reasonably evident that you did not earn"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lem me debunk a myth real quick for you folks.If you EVER see a bank error " in your favor " or if your payroll check is off and you are over paid.......DO NOT SPEND THE MONEYYou will be charged for what you owe , and in some circumstances you can be prosecuted for using money that " was reasonably evident that you did not earn "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lemme debunk a myth real quick for you folks.If you EVER see a bank error "in your favor" or if your payroll check is off and you are over paid.......DO NOT SPEND THE MONEYYou will be charged for what you owe, and in some circumstances you can be prosecuted for using money that "was reasonably evident that you did not earn"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708523</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708321</id>
	<title>Hey</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247652600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Interesting?  You're assuming we're all computer geeks.

Wait a minute...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Interesting ?
You 're assuming we 're all computer geeks .
Wait a minute.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interesting?
You're assuming we're all computer geeks.
Wait a minute...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708859</id>
	<title>no wonder</title>
	<author>wimg</author>
	<datestamp>1247655120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"he had spent the profound sum in one pop at a nearby Mobil gas station -- his regular stop for Camel cigarettes"<br>Smoking is bad for your health... and wallet<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" he had spent the profound sum in one pop at a nearby Mobil gas station -- his regular stop for Camel cigarettes " Smoking is bad for your health... and wallet ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"he had spent the profound sum in one pop at a nearby Mobil gas station -- his regular stop for Camel cigarettes"Smoking is bad for your health... and wallet ;-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708769</id>
	<title>Octal?  Piffle.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247654640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That was not an "insightful" comment.  WTF does it matter what a couple of hex digits mean in octal?  What would you have said if it was 12 80?  A field that should have held a binary large integer getting filled with ascii characters makes sense; a field that gets filled not with the binary representation of the ascii characters, but to suggest that some process would take the octal representation of those characters, discard the most significant digit and then pack them into hex nibbles (a kind of BCO - binary coded octal representation) is ludicrous.</p><p>The 12 50 is just an artifact of the number being rounded to the nearest $100 by the journalists reporting the story.  Check it out; if you assume they were actually 20 20, you get an amount somewhere around $35-$36+some small change over the $23,148,855,308,184,500.00 figure mentioned.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That was not an " insightful " comment .
WTF does it matter what a couple of hex digits mean in octal ?
What would you have said if it was 12 80 ?
A field that should have held a binary large integer getting filled with ascii characters makes sense ; a field that gets filled not with the binary representation of the ascii characters , but to suggest that some process would take the octal representation of those characters , discard the most significant digit and then pack them into hex nibbles ( a kind of BCO - binary coded octal representation ) is ludicrous.The 12 50 is just an artifact of the number being rounded to the nearest $ 100 by the journalists reporting the story .
Check it out ; if you assume they were actually 20 20 , you get an amount somewhere around $ 35- $ 36 + some small change over the $ 23,148,855,308,184,500.00 figure mentioned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That was not an "insightful" comment.
WTF does it matter what a couple of hex digits mean in octal?
What would you have said if it was 12 80?
A field that should have held a binary large integer getting filled with ascii characters makes sense; a field that gets filled not with the binary representation of the ascii characters, but to suggest that some process would take the octal representation of those characters, discard the most significant digit and then pack them into hex nibbles (a kind of BCO - binary coded octal representation) is ludicrous.The 12 50 is just an artifact of the number being rounded to the nearest $100 by the journalists reporting the story.
Check it out; if you assume they were actually 20 20, you get an amount somewhere around $35-$36+some small change over the $23,148,855,308,184,500.00 figure mentioned.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708371</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708663</id>
	<title>or the OTC fee if..</title>
	<author>MoFoQ</author>
	<datestamp>1247654160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>just imagine what the Over-the-Credit Limit fee would be if it were based on a percentage instead of the typical $39.</p><p>man....wonder if that counts as an automatic default...and thus 29.99\% of that would be....holyshit</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>just imagine what the Over-the-Credit Limit fee would be if it were based on a percentage instead of the typical $ 39.man....wonder if that counts as an automatic default...and thus 29.99 \ % of that would be....holyshit</tokentext>
<sentencetext>just imagine what the Over-the-Credit Limit fee would be if it were based on a percentage instead of the typical $39.man....wonder if that counts as an automatic default...and thus 29.99\% of that would be....holyshit</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708391</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708755</id>
	<title>Only Notice Large Glitches</title>
	<author>WebmasterNeal</author>
	<datestamp>1247654640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Probably more offensive is that a glitch happened at all, large or small. It could have just as easily been $2.31 in which case he may have not noticed the overcharge and paid it. Charge several thousand people $2.31 too much and you can make an alright profit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably more offensive is that a glitch happened at all , large or small .
It could have just as easily been $ 2.31 in which case he may have not noticed the overcharge and paid it .
Charge several thousand people $ 2.31 too much and you can make an alright profit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably more offensive is that a glitch happened at all, large or small.
It could have just as easily been $2.31 in which case he may have not noticed the overcharge and paid it.
Charge several thousand people $2.31 too much and you can make an alright profit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710475</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>Stiletto</author>
	<datestamp>1247662740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>For fuck's sake, people, the credit card guys haven't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet, and this guy thinks that it is already on the books?</i>

<p>Maybe not the credit cards, but the health care industry has:</p><p>

<a href="http://www.philly.com/inquirer/columnists/monica\_yant\_kinney/20090712\_Monica\_Yant\_Kinney\_\_If\_mom\_can\_t\_pay\_\_adult\_child\_must.html" title="philly.com">
In Pennsylvania you are responsible for paying off your parents' debts.</a> [philly.com]
The 'boomers are going to have a field day farming their debt off on us...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For fuck 's sake , people , the credit card guys have n't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet , and this guy thinks that it is already on the books ?
Maybe not the credit cards , but the health care industry has : In Pennsylvania you are responsible for paying off your parents ' debts .
[ philly.com ] The 'boomers are going to have a field day farming their debt off on us.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For fuck's sake, people, the credit card guys haven't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet, and this guy thinks that it is already on the books?
Maybe not the credit cards, but the health care industry has:


In Pennsylvania you are responsible for paying off your parents' debts.
[philly.com]
The 'boomers are going to have a field day farming their debt off on us...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708869</id>
	<title>Re:Extremely speculative.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247655180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the number was pasted as decoded in hex, how could it possibly be an octal 12 in it? WTF mate?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the number was pasted as decoded in hex , how could it possibly be an octal 12 in it ?
WTF mate ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the number was pasted as decoded in hex, how could it possibly be an octal 12 in it?
WTF mate?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708371</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708369</id>
	<title>of course they didn't reverse interest charges...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247652720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So now the interest charges for the month based on average daily balance will be quit a lot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So now the interest charges for the month based on average daily balance will be quit a lot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So now the interest charges for the month based on average daily balance will be quit a lot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28716433</id>
	<title>How did that old saying go?</title>
	<author>Ihlosi</author>
	<datestamp>1247758020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"If you owe $100,000 to the bank, the bank owns you,
 but if you own 23 quadrillion to the bank, you own the bank"?</htmltext>
<tokenext>" If you owe $ 100,000 to the bank , the bank owns you , but if you own 23 quadrillion to the bank , you own the bank " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"If you owe $100,000 to the bank, the bank owns you,
 but if you own 23 quadrillion to the bank, you own the bank"?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711621</id>
	<title>Hey...</title>
	<author>QuietLagoon</author>
	<datestamp>1247671200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Most C/C++ programmers see the error now<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</i> <p>.<br>

Hey, what about us assembler programmers?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most C/C + + programmers see the error now ... . Hey , what about us assembler programmers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most C/C++ programmers see the error now ... .

Hey, what about us assembler programmers?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709245</id>
	<title>Best Summary I've Seen on /.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247656560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would like to commend this summary (and more importantly, the summarizer) for writing such a clear, cogent, and simple summation to this article.  You explained the problem, the solution, and your thought process clearly in 5 lines.  I don't know how you did it, but I can only hope to aspire to such greatness (no sarcasm).  You've earned the Anonymous Coward's badge for Summation Excellence.  Wear it with pride.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would like to commend this summary ( and more importantly , the summarizer ) for writing such a clear , cogent , and simple summation to this article .
You explained the problem , the solution , and your thought process clearly in 5 lines .
I do n't know how you did it , but I can only hope to aspire to such greatness ( no sarcasm ) .
You 've earned the Anonymous Coward 's badge for Summation Excellence .
Wear it with pride .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would like to commend this summary (and more importantly, the summarizer) for writing such a clear, cogent, and simple summation to this article.
You explained the problem, the solution, and your thought process clearly in 5 lines.
I don't know how you did it, but I can only hope to aspire to such greatness (no sarcasm).
You've earned the Anonymous Coward's badge for Summation Excellence.
Wear it with pride.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28715451</id>
	<title>Moore's Law</title>
	<author>shervinemami</author>
	<datestamp>1247753100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Trust me, in another 10 years you'll be wondering how people lived without 128 bit credit limits.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Trust me , in another 10 years you 'll be wondering how people lived without 128 bit credit limits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Trust me, in another 10 years you'll be wondering how people lived without 128 bit credit limits.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709375</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710021</id>
	<title>Re:What is truly appalling...</title>
	<author>Beryllium Sphere(tm)</author>
	<datestamp>1247660460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At a minimum, a charge that far outside the cardholder's normal pattern should have been flagged for manual review at the fraud control department.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At a minimum , a charge that far outside the cardholder 's normal pattern should have been flagged for manual review at the fraud control department .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At a minimum, a charge that far outside the cardholder's normal pattern should have been flagged for manual review at the fraud control department.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708485</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709311</id>
	<title>auto pay</title>
	<author>bashamer</author>
	<datestamp>1247656980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder what would have happened if this was left on auto pay.</p><p>and why didn't the FDIC catch this ? it would make the financial institution pretty defunct if they authorized the transaction.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder what would have happened if this was left on auto pay.and why did n't the FDIC catch this ?
it would make the financial institution pretty defunct if they authorized the transaction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder what would have happened if this was left on auto pay.and why didn't the FDIC catch this ?
it would make the financial institution pretty defunct if they authorized the transaction.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28712741</id>
	<title>Re:The Sad Thing...</title>
	<author>FiloEleven</author>
	<datestamp>1247681340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>For fuck's sake, people, the credit card guys haven't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yet</p></div><p>Nope, the US government already has that one all sewn up<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For fuck 's sake , people , the credit card guys have n't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yetNope , the US government already has that one all sewn up ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For fuck's sake, people, the credit card guys haven't actually bought a law concerning hereditary debt slavery yetNope, the US government already has that one all sewn up ;)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708479</id>
	<title>Wrong Currency?</title>
	<author>Sponge Bath</author>
	<datestamp>1247653260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The number seems about right for Zimbabwe dollars.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The number seems about right for Zimbabwe dollars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The number seems about right for Zimbabwe dollars.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708361</id>
	<title>At least it wasn't EBCDIC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247652720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>In EBCDIC, hex 40 is a space.  Making this error if EBCDIC was used would make the charge a whopping $4,629,771,061,636,895,312 - 4 quintillion dollars!</htmltext>
<tokenext>In EBCDIC , hex 40 is a space .
Making this error if EBCDIC was used would make the charge a whopping $ 4,629,771,061,636,895,312 - 4 quintillion dollars !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In EBCDIC, hex 40 is a space.
Making this error if EBCDIC was used would make the charge a whopping $4,629,771,061,636,895,312 - 4 quintillion dollars!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708543</id>
	<title>Been there</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247653560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I must've put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I must 've put a decimal point in the wrong place or something .
I always do that .
I always mess up some mundane detail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I must've put a decimal point in the wrong place or something.
I always do that.
I always mess up some mundane detail.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709093</id>
	<title>Re:I can hear the radio ads now</title>
	<author>Comatose51</author>
	<datestamp>1247655900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even if you could settle for pennies on the dollar, you'll still be more indebted than Uncle Sam.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if you could settle for pennies on the dollar , you 'll still be more indebted than Uncle Sam .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if you could settle for pennies on the dollar, you'll still be more indebted than Uncle Sam.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708529</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711731</id>
	<title>Re:At least it wasn't EBCDIC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247671860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they're using EBCDIC, they're also probably using BCD math, in which case  40 40 40 40 40 40 12 50 works out to:  $40,404,040,404,012.50</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they 're using EBCDIC , they 're also probably using BCD math , in which case 40 40 40 40 40 40 12 50 works out to : $ 40,404,040,404,012.50</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they're using EBCDIC, they're also probably using BCD math, in which case  40 40 40 40 40 40 12 50 works out to:  $40,404,040,404,012.50</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708361</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709683</id>
	<title>Is real bill lost for ever. will people get back b</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1247658600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is real bill lost for ever. will people get back billed? Is the store out the cash? Will some people end up on the bounced check list / have to pay store fee for not having the funds?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is real bill lost for ever .
will people get back billed ?
Is the store out the cash ?
Will some people end up on the bounced check list / have to pay store fee for not having the funds ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is real bill lost for ever.
will people get back billed?
Is the store out the cash?
Will some people end up on the bounced check list / have to pay store fee for not having the funds?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709185</id>
	<title>Mike is at it again ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247656320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Where is Manuel Garcia O'Kelly Davis when you need him?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where is Manuel Garcia O'Kelly Davis when you need him ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where is Manuel Garcia O'Kelly Davis when you need him?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708635</id>
	<title>Debt--American Dream</title>
	<author>tmosley</author>
	<datestamp>1247654040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>If I were him, I would have applied for a bailout, then gave myself a nice hefty bonus before going bankrupt.<br> <br>

It's the American Dream!</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I were him , I would have applied for a bailout , then gave myself a nice hefty bonus before going bankrupt .
It 's the American Dream !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I were him, I would have applied for a bailout, then gave myself a nice hefty bonus before going bankrupt.
It's the American Dream!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710753</id>
	<title>Re:What is truly appalling...</title>
	<author>jrumney</author>
	<datestamp>1247664600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>...is that this was not caught by validity checks</p></div></blockquote><p>My thoughts exactly. Why is it that when I try and legitimately spend a largish amount (anything into 4 figures basically), the credit card company immediately phones me to check on it, and if I try to spend above my credit limit, they can block the purchase, but things like this are not caught?</p><p>Something similar happened to my brother once - a $10 fee for a replacement card somehow became $12 million, automatically debited from his bank account. It took 3 days to find someone at the bank with enough authority to reverse a transaction of that magnitude, and that was only after he'd gone to the local newspaper about it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...is that this was not caught by validity checksMy thoughts exactly .
Why is it that when I try and legitimately spend a largish amount ( anything into 4 figures basically ) , the credit card company immediately phones me to check on it , and if I try to spend above my credit limit , they can block the purchase , but things like this are not caught ? Something similar happened to my brother once - a $ 10 fee for a replacement card somehow became $ 12 million , automatically debited from his bank account .
It took 3 days to find someone at the bank with enough authority to reverse a transaction of that magnitude , and that was only after he 'd gone to the local newspaper about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...is that this was not caught by validity checksMy thoughts exactly.
Why is it that when I try and legitimately spend a largish amount (anything into 4 figures basically), the credit card company immediately phones me to check on it, and if I try to spend above my credit limit, they can block the purchase, but things like this are not caught?Something similar happened to my brother once - a $10 fee for a replacement card somehow became $12 million, automatically debited from his bank account.
It took 3 days to find someone at the bank with enough authority to reverse a transaction of that magnitude, and that was only after he'd gone to the local newspaper about it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708485</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709513</id>
	<title>Re:At least it wasn't EBCDIC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247657820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, they probably have stopped using them,  but most of VISA/MC (read: interchange) and the third party processors run on mainframes.  EBCDIC ftw.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , they probably have stopped using them , but most of VISA/MC ( read : interchange ) and the third party processors run on mainframes .
EBCDIC ftw .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, they probably have stopped using them,  but most of VISA/MC (read: interchange) and the third party processors run on mainframes.
EBCDIC ftw.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708399</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708371</id>
	<title>Extremely speculative.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247652780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>While all this is plausible, of course, the 12 is octal for a UNIX newline and the 50 is the '@' symbol; let us not forget that there are a lot of assumptions being made here and a lot of speculation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While all this is plausible , of course , the 12 is octal for a UNIX newline and the 50 is the ' @ ' symbol ; let us not forget that there are a lot of assumptions being made here and a lot of speculation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While all this is plausible, of course, the 12 is octal for a UNIX newline and the 50 is the '@' symbol; let us not forget that there are a lot of assumptions being made here and a lot of speculation.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709799</id>
	<title>Did you think this only happened to this one goob?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247659200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, but look around.  This bug hit hundreds of people, and at least one of them manned up.  Er, only she wasn't a man, totally fscking up my childish metaphor.  Stoopid reality, damnit.</p><p>It's been on digg, boingboing, yaddayaddayadda... slashdot's a little late to the party here.  Christ, the Beeb even covered this bug already.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , but look around .
This bug hit hundreds of people , and at least one of them manned up .
Er , only she was n't a man , totally fscking up my childish metaphor .
Stoopid reality , damnit.It 's been on digg , boingboing , yaddayaddayadda... slashdot 's a little late to the party here .
Christ , the Beeb even covered this bug already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, but look around.
This bug hit hundreds of people, and at least one of them manned up.
Er, only she wasn't a man, totally fscking up my childish metaphor.
Stoopid reality, damnit.It's been on digg, boingboing, yaddayaddayadda... slashdot's a little late to the party here.
Christ, the Beeb even covered this bug already.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711467</id>
	<title>Re:64 bit charge amounts?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247670000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not all places in this world use USD.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not all places in this world use USD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not all places in this world use USD.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709375</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28713869</id>
	<title>Re:64 bit charge amounts?</title>
	<author>s74ng3r</author>
	<datestamp>1247736300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>64 bits should be enough for everybody.</htmltext>
<tokenext>64 bits should be enough for everybody .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>64 bits should be enough for everybody.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709375</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710935</id>
	<title>Re:64 bit charge amounts?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247665860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A 64-bit signed integer would limit you to 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 cents, or $92,233,720,368,547,758.07. I think $92.2 quadrillion is enough wiggle room.</p><p>A 32-bit signed integer, would limit you to 2,147,483,647 cents, which is "only" $21,474,836.47. Financial institutions deal with numbers higher than this on a regular basis for corporate or very wealthy customers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A 64-bit signed integer would limit you to 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 cents , or $ 92,233,720,368,547,758.07 .
I think $ 92.2 quadrillion is enough wiggle room.A 32-bit signed integer , would limit you to 2,147,483,647 cents , which is " only " $ 21,474,836.47 .
Financial institutions deal with numbers higher than this on a regular basis for corporate or very wealthy customers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A 64-bit signed integer would limit you to 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 cents, or $92,233,720,368,547,758.07.
I think $92.2 quadrillion is enough wiggle room.A 32-bit signed integer, would limit you to 2,147,483,647 cents, which is "only" $21,474,836.47.
Financial institutions deal with numbers higher than this on a regular basis for corporate or very wealthy customers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709375</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28714803</id>
	<title>Re:Sensationalist article</title>
	<author>ezzzD55J</author>
	<datestamp>1247748600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't quite get it - what damages?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't quite get it - what damages ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't quite get it - what damages?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708785</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710855</id>
	<title>Isn't that his iPhone bill..</title>
	<author>grepya</author>
	<datestamp>1247665260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Shouldn't have checked his email from Mexico.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Should n't have checked his email from Mexico .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shouldn't have checked his email from Mexico.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28712037</id>
	<title>Re:Been there</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247674380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>sweet Office Space reference<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>sweet Office Space reference : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sweet Office Space reference :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708543</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28722019</id>
	<title>Re:Yeeeaaaaahh...</title>
	<author>cyberchondriac</author>
	<datestamp>1247735760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Your biased.
Look it up, there ahve been many glitches on both sides of the fence. People getting account credited with too much money, checks getting sent for 100million times the amount that should actually be made.</p></div><p>If you mean, I'm "biased" due to personal experience, guilty as charged. Verizon, Comcast, banks, everytime there's been some kind of "computer glitch" with any of them, it resulted in an <i>overcharge</i>, or a charge for some service I don't even have.  <br>
I have never, ever, been undercharged or sent a check for monies that weren't mine. Just because 3 guys out of 200 million experienced otherwise doesnt' invalidate the lopsided reality of it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Your biased .
Look it up , there ahve been many glitches on both sides of the fence .
People getting account credited with too much money , checks getting sent for 100million times the amount that should actually be made.If you mean , I 'm " biased " due to personal experience , guilty as charged .
Verizon , Comcast , banks , everytime there 's been some kind of " computer glitch " with any of them , it resulted in an overcharge , or a charge for some service I do n't even have .
I have never , ever , been undercharged or sent a check for monies that were n't mine .
Just because 3 guys out of 200 million experienced otherwise doesnt ' invalidate the lopsided reality of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your biased.
Look it up, there ahve been many glitches on both sides of the fence.
People getting account credited with too much money, checks getting sent for 100million times the amount that should actually be made.If you mean, I'm "biased" due to personal experience, guilty as charged.
Verizon, Comcast, banks, everytime there's been some kind of "computer glitch" with any of them, it resulted in an overcharge, or a charge for some service I don't even have.
I have never, ever, been undercharged or sent a check for monies that weren't mine.
Just because 3 guys out of 200 million experienced otherwise doesnt' invalidate the lopsided reality of it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708611</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708337</id>
	<title>meh</title>
	<author>gEvil (beta)</author>
	<datestamp>1247652660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Meh. What's 23 quadrillion dollars <i>really</i> worth these days?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Meh .
What 's 23 quadrillion dollars really worth these days ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meh.
What's 23 quadrillion dollars really worth these days?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28710671</id>
	<title>Re:64 bit charge amounts?</title>
	<author>pafrusurewa</author>
	<datestamp>1247664000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's not really as absurd as it sounds. You couldn't really go shopping with Zimbabwe dollars in 32 bits.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's not really as absurd as it sounds .
You could n't really go shopping with Zimbabwe dollars in 32 bits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's not really as absurd as it sounds.
You couldn't really go shopping with Zimbabwe dollars in 32 bits.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709375</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28712965</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing to see here, keep moving along please..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247683500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>For instance padding a field with spaces instead of zeros.  Woopsie...!</p></div><p>You go girl</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For instance padding a field with spaces instead of zeros .
Woopsie... ! You go girl</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For instance padding a field with spaces instead of zeros.
Woopsie...!You go girl
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708809</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709067</id>
	<title>Re:Okay. The spaces make sense...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247655780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But that 12 50 seems a little odd.  That would be either "[DLE] P", or $46.88 which seems a lot for a packet of cigs.</p></div><p> <a href="http://www.nbcdfw.com/around\_town/shopping/Wow-Quadrillion-Dollar-Credit-Card-Bill.html?yhp=1" title="nbcdfw.com" rel="nofollow">This story</a> [nbcdfw.com] says the $46.88 charge came from eating out at Wolfgang Puck's restaurant, in which case the $23 quadrillion dollars seems legit.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But that 12 50 seems a little odd .
That would be either " [ DLE ] P " , or $ 46.88 which seems a lot for a packet of cigs .
This story [ nbcdfw.com ] says the $ 46.88 charge came from eating out at Wolfgang Puck 's restaurant , in which case the $ 23 quadrillion dollars seems legit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But that 12 50 seems a little odd.
That would be either "[DLE] P", or $46.88 which seems a lot for a packet of cigs.
This story [nbcdfw.com] says the $46.88 charge came from eating out at Wolfgang Puck's restaurant, in which case the $23 quadrillion dollars seems legit.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708559</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708721</id>
	<title>The Money that was created by this error....</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1247654460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The money that was created out of thin air by this error is no more invalid than the trillions of dollars of Fiat currency that the Government forces down everyone's throat.<br>.<br>Nixon was an absolute bastard for getting us off of the Gold Standard.<br>.<br>Now money should not be backed by just one precious metal, but should be backed may various different precious metals and maybe some other precious resources.   Full faith and credit is a joke.<br>.<br>Hey maybe they should give this guy a gold metal, because he could have single handedly used his debit card to pay off all out debts like Stan did in "Margaritaville".<br>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The money that was created out of thin air by this error is no more invalid than the trillions of dollars of Fiat currency that the Government forces down everyone 's throat..Nixon was an absolute bastard for getting us off of the Gold Standard..Now money should not be backed by just one precious metal , but should be backed may various different precious metals and maybe some other precious resources .
Full faith and credit is a joke..Hey maybe they should give this guy a gold metal , because he could have single handedly used his debit card to pay off all out debts like Stan did in " Margaritaville " . .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The money that was created out of thin air by this error is no more invalid than the trillions of dollars of Fiat currency that the Government forces down everyone's throat..Nixon was an absolute bastard for getting us off of the Gold Standard..Now money should not be backed by just one precious metal, but should be backed may various different precious metals and maybe some other precious resources.
Full faith and credit is a joke..Hey maybe they should give this guy a gold metal, because he could have single handedly used his debit card to pay off all out debts like Stan did in "Margaritaville"..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28712385</id>
	<title>Re:Extremely speculative.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247678100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually it looks even simpler then that.

It looks like $2.31 was his amount and the rest was his CC number, since the 4885 is a typical Visa Check Card sequence issued by BofA.

I wonder if this guy was smart enough to look at his card number and verify that was not the case here, especially before putting it out to the press.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually it looks even simpler then that .
It looks like $ 2.31 was his amount and the rest was his CC number , since the 4885 is a typical Visa Check Card sequence issued by BofA .
I wonder if this guy was smart enough to look at his card number and verify that was not the case here , especially before putting it out to the press .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually it looks even simpler then that.
It looks like $2.31 was his amount and the rest was his CC number, since the 4885 is a typical Visa Check Card sequence issued by BofA.
I wonder if this guy was smart enough to look at his card number and verify that was not the case here, especially before putting it out to the press.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28714259</id>
	<title>It's no bug....</title>
	<author>Mhtsos</author>
	<datestamp>1247741220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Doctor Evil is extorting people again.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Doctor Evil is extorting people again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doctor Evil is extorting people again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28708745</id>
	<title>th,is is goat5sex</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247654580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>munches the most Its co8pse turned</htmltext>
<tokenext>munches the most Its co8pse turned</tokentext>
<sentencetext>munches the most Its co8pse turned</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28711707</id>
	<title>Time to quit smoking.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247671680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am going to quit when a pack of smokes costs 24 quadrillion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am going to quit when a pack of smokes costs 24 quadrillion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am going to quit when a pack of smokes costs 24 quadrillion.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709213</id>
	<title>The Programmer's Guild Did It</title>
	<author>Baldrson</author>
	<datestamp>1247656380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This obviously wouldn't have happened if the Programmer's Guild had supporting lifting the H-1b cap so there wasn't such a shortage of good programmers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This obviously would n't have happened if the Programmer 's Guild had supporting lifting the H-1b cap so there was n't such a shortage of good programmers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This obviously wouldn't have happened if the Programmer's Guild had supporting lifting the H-1b cap so there wasn't such a shortage of good programmers.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_15_2050215.28709375</id>
	<title>64 bit charge amounts?</title>
	<author>saccade.com</author>
	<datestamp>1247657280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's really strange is they're using 64 bits to express a charge amount.  How many people are charging manned missions to Mars or the military invasion of a superpower to their Visa?  A 64 bit credit limit must be quite the status symbol.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's really strange is they 're using 64 bits to express a charge amount .
How many people are charging manned missions to Mars or the military invasion of a superpower to their Visa ?
A 64 bit credit limit must be quite the status symbol .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's really strange is they're using 64 bits to express a charge amount.
How many people are charging manned missions to Mars or the military invasion of a superpower to their Visa?
A 64 bit credit limit must be quite the status symbol.</sentencetext>
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