<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_07_14_1813200</id>
	<title>YouTube Phasing Out Support For IE6</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1247601060000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://psoug.org/" rel="nofollow">Oracle Goddess</a> sends word that YouTube is presenting IE6 users with a <a href="http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2015/youtubeie6.png">banner</a> exhorting them to upgrade to a modern browser, and TechCrunch is reporting that YouTube will be <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/14/youtube-will-be-next-to-kiss-ie6-support-goodbye/">phasing out support for IE6</a> soon. This <a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=youtube+ie6">Twitter search</a> reflects the jubilation breaking out all over the Net at the imminent demise of this most despised and non-standards-compliant browser. The market share for IE6 is now well down in the single digits.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oracle Goddess sends word that YouTube is presenting IE6 users with a banner exhorting them to upgrade to a modern browser , and TechCrunch is reporting that YouTube will be phasing out support for IE6 soon .
This Twitter search reflects the jubilation breaking out all over the Net at the imminent demise of this most despised and non-standards-compliant browser .
The market share for IE6 is now well down in the single digits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oracle Goddess sends word that YouTube is presenting IE6 users with a banner exhorting them to upgrade to a modern browser, and TechCrunch is reporting that YouTube will be phasing out support for IE6 soon.
This Twitter search reflects the jubilation breaking out all over the Net at the imminent demise of this most despised and non-standards-compliant browser.
The market share for IE6 is now well down in the single digits.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28699053</id>
	<title>Re:About time</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247583480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah what the hell is wrong with Slashdot these days. I'm using Firefox (not even an 'evil' browser like IE) and Slashdot renders all weird<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... all this extra green space under the Slashdot logo at the top etc...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah what the hell is wrong with Slashdot these days .
I 'm using Firefox ( not even an 'evil ' browser like IE ) and Slashdot renders all weird ... all this extra green space under the Slashdot logo at the top etc.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah what the hell is wrong with Slashdot these days.
I'm using Firefox (not even an 'evil' browser like IE) and Slashdot renders all weird ... all this extra green space under the Slashdot logo at the top etc...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695499</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28701615</id>
	<title>Safari?</title>
	<author>DaveyJJ</author>
	<datestamp>1247659860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Where's the link to Safari???</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where 's the link to Safari ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where's the link to Safari??
?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695585</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695525</id>
	<title>let's go further</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247562900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Windows is the real problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows is the real problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows is the real problem.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695511</id>
	<title>Flash</title>
	<author>R.Mo\_Robert</author>
	<datestamp>1247562780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now, if YouTube would only phase out support for Flash...</p><p>I know, I know, wishful thinking. But I <em>do</em> secretly think that YouTube could single-handedly decide which video format(s) become supported (or, if not in the specification, at least popular) for HTML 5. Chrome supports both Theora and H.264, but their <a href="http://www.youtube.com/html5" title="youtube.com">HTML 5 test page</a> [youtube.com] uses H.264. Not my personal first choice, but certainly a lot better than Flash.</p><p>In any case, I can't wait for this imaginary day when YouTube goes Flash-less.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now , if YouTube would only phase out support for Flash...I know , I know , wishful thinking .
But I do secretly think that YouTube could single-handedly decide which video format ( s ) become supported ( or , if not in the specification , at least popular ) for HTML 5 .
Chrome supports both Theora and H.264 , but their HTML 5 test page [ youtube.com ] uses H.264 .
Not my personal first choice , but certainly a lot better than Flash.In any case , I ca n't wait for this imaginary day when YouTube goes Flash-less .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now, if YouTube would only phase out support for Flash...I know, I know, wishful thinking.
But I do secretly think that YouTube could single-handedly decide which video format(s) become supported (or, if not in the specification, at least popular) for HTML 5.
Chrome supports both Theora and H.264, but their HTML 5 test page [youtube.com] uses H.264.
Not my personal first choice, but certainly a lot better than Flash.In any case, I can't wait for this imaginary day when YouTube goes Flash-less.
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28703037</id>
	<title>Re:Except IE is the only one that works with YouTu</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1247670300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Funny is they don't figure what actually made youtube succsessful.</p><p>Youtube would work in any browser which manages to run Flash in it. That is the trick. Nothing else needed. If Flash runs, Youtube is there even including mobile browsers (e.g. Nokia).</p><p>Can't IE really display comments and Google ads? That is all needed for youtube. Flash works in its own way, glory days of "live script" is over really. Sad but true.</p><p>IE 6 is still used on large corporations and there is no chance you will be able to "upgrade to chrome" unless you want a visit from BOFH with your manager asking what the hell you are trying to achieve. Yes, a managed client these days won't just stop you, it will also alert admin via security solution, "attempt to install unauthorised software" in recession would be a nice excuse for them.</p><p>Oh BTW, unless some miracle happens and a open source/standard commitee invents something which will be a 1.1 MB download, without any dictation of software, completely supported in number 1 pro design suite and various pro video authoring/serving solutions, Flash is there to stay.</p><p>HTML5 video would have a huge chance if they were wise to adopt H264 as standard and Dirac as optional codec. Also publicly bitching/whining/attacking both Apple and Adobe which are called "mecca of multimedia" won't really help.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny is they do n't figure what actually made youtube succsessful.Youtube would work in any browser which manages to run Flash in it .
That is the trick .
Nothing else needed .
If Flash runs , Youtube is there even including mobile browsers ( e.g .
Nokia ) .Ca n't IE really display comments and Google ads ?
That is all needed for youtube .
Flash works in its own way , glory days of " live script " is over really .
Sad but true.IE 6 is still used on large corporations and there is no chance you will be able to " upgrade to chrome " unless you want a visit from BOFH with your manager asking what the hell you are trying to achieve .
Yes , a managed client these days wo n't just stop you , it will also alert admin via security solution , " attempt to install unauthorised software " in recession would be a nice excuse for them.Oh BTW , unless some miracle happens and a open source/standard commitee invents something which will be a 1.1 MB download , without any dictation of software , completely supported in number 1 pro design suite and various pro video authoring/serving solutions , Flash is there to stay.HTML5 video would have a huge chance if they were wise to adopt H264 as standard and Dirac as optional codec .
Also publicly bitching/whining/attacking both Apple and Adobe which are called " mecca of multimedia " wo n't really help .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny is they don't figure what actually made youtube succsessful.Youtube would work in any browser which manages to run Flash in it.
That is the trick.
Nothing else needed.
If Flash runs, Youtube is there even including mobile browsers (e.g.
Nokia).Can't IE really display comments and Google ads?
That is all needed for youtube.
Flash works in its own way, glory days of "live script" is over really.
Sad but true.IE 6 is still used on large corporations and there is no chance you will be able to "upgrade to chrome" unless you want a visit from BOFH with your manager asking what the hell you are trying to achieve.
Yes, a managed client these days won't just stop you, it will also alert admin via security solution, "attempt to install unauthorised software" in recession would be a nice excuse for them.Oh BTW, unless some miracle happens and a open source/standard commitee invents something which will be a 1.1 MB download, without any dictation of software, completely supported in number 1 pro design suite and various pro video authoring/serving solutions, Flash is there to stay.HTML5 video would have a huge chance if they were wise to adopt H264 as standard and Dirac as optional codec.
Also publicly bitching/whining/attacking both Apple and Adobe which are called "mecca of multimedia" won't really help.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698995</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695549</id>
	<title>Re:Praise Jeebus!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247562960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A lesson?  Isn't it a little late for Firefox?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A lesson ?
Is n't it a little late for Firefox ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lesson?
Isn't it a little late for Firefox?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695255</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695851</id>
	<title>Re:About time</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247564220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Perhaps next, they can follow Slashdot's example and phase out support for web browsers.</p><p>This may actually be an advantage:</p><p>show\_articles.sh YouTube-Phasing-Out-Support-For-IE6 | sed s/IE6/Windows/g | more</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Perhaps next , they can follow Slashdot 's example and phase out support for web browsers.This may actually be an advantage : show \ _articles.sh YouTube-Phasing-Out-Support-For-IE6 | sed s/IE6/Windows/g | more</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Perhaps next, they can follow Slashdot's example and phase out support for web browsers.This may actually be an advantage:show\_articles.sh YouTube-Phasing-Out-Support-For-IE6 | sed s/IE6/Windows/g | more</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695499</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28697337</id>
	<title>Re:Market share</title>
	<author>bigngamer92</author>
	<datestamp>1247570820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Of course in relation to the article these users don't matter.  Your not supposed to be using Youtube at corporate HQ right? Right?  Why is everyone laughing?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course in relation to the article these users do n't matter .
Your not supposed to be using Youtube at corporate HQ right ?
Right ? Why is everyone laughing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course in relation to the article these users don't matter.
Your not supposed to be using Youtube at corporate HQ right?
Right?  Why is everyone laughing?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695451</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28702167</id>
	<title>Re:About time</title>
	<author>Loopy1492</author>
	<datestamp>1247665440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't get it.  It works in the browsers I use.  You must be using a browser that has an extra chromosome.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get it .
It works in the browsers I use .
You must be using a browser that has an extra chromosome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't get it.
It works in the browsers I use.
You must be using a browser that has an extra chromosome.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695499</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695213</id>
	<title>About time</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247604780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good. That's like phasing out of support for cancer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good .
That 's like phasing out of support for cancer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good.
That's like phasing out of support for cancer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28703829</id>
	<title>No support for IE on YouTube?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247674740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Great, that is one more reason for corporations to stick to IE6?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Great , that is one more reason for corporations to stick to IE6 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great, that is one more reason for corporations to stick to IE6?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28699891</id>
	<title>I have IE 6...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247590740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have IE 6 on my computer and don't know how to get rid of it lol. MSN keeps randomly opening it when i try to check emails even though my DEFAULT browser is firefox.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have IE 6 on my computer and do n't know how to get rid of it lol .
MSN keeps randomly opening it when i try to check emails even though my DEFAULT browser is firefox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have IE 6 on my computer and don't know how to get rid of it lol.
MSN keeps randomly opening it when i try to check emails even though my DEFAULT browser is firefox.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695419</id>
	<title>Re:I *WISH* it was down in the single digits</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247562420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, it definitely depends on the type of site you have.  If you run sites that people are likely to browse while they are at work, like real estate or large e-commerce sites, then I can guarantee that IE6 useage statistics are still *quite* comfortably in the double digits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it definitely depends on the type of site you have .
If you run sites that people are likely to browse while they are at work , like real estate or large e-commerce sites , then I can guarantee that IE6 useage statistics are still * quite * comfortably in the double digits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it definitely depends on the type of site you have.
If you run sites that people are likely to browse while they are at work, like real estate or large e-commerce sites, then I can guarantee that IE6 useage statistics are still *quite* comfortably in the double digits.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695267</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695405</id>
	<title>Re:I *WISH* it was down in the single digits</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1247562360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree, where i work we have 30000+ workstations. IE7 was proven to buggy so its not being deployed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree , where i work we have 30000 + workstations .
IE7 was proven to buggy so its not being deployed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree, where i work we have 30000+ workstations.
IE7 was proven to buggy so its not being deployed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695267</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28697071</id>
	<title>Re:Still mandatory where I work</title>
	<author>xednieht</author>
	<datestamp>1247569560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>TFA says YouTube is phasing out IE6 NOT Microsoft.  And why would you be looking at YouTube at work anyway?</htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA says YouTube is phasing out IE6 NOT Microsoft .
And why would you be looking at YouTube at work anyway ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA says YouTube is phasing out IE6 NOT Microsoft.
And why would you be looking at YouTube at work anyway?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695371</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28700221</id>
	<title>Re:Last I checked, I couldn't upgrade</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1247593920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well that's an easy one: Install Linux.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well that 's an easy one : Install Linux .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well that's an easy one: Install Linux.
:)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695417</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695783</id>
	<title>Any explanation why?</title>
	<author>John Napkintosh</author>
	<datestamp>1247563920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not that they need to justify it, but did they explain their position at any point?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not that they need to justify it , but did they explain their position at any point ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not that they need to justify it, but did they explain their position at any point?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28702177</id>
	<title>Re:About time</title>
	<author>Loopy1492</author>
	<datestamp>1247665500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I reiterate: I don't get it.  I use Firefox and it works fine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I reiterate : I do n't get it .
I use Firefox and it works fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I reiterate: I don't get it.
I use Firefox and it works fine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28699053</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695371</id>
	<title>Still mandatory where I work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247562180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know quite a few LARGE corporate environments that won't be upgrading any time soon since IE7/8 "breaks" their intranet web apps and they aren't about to budget for updating apps that work on the existing browser.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know quite a few LARGE corporate environments that wo n't be upgrading any time soon since IE7/8 " breaks " their intranet web apps and they are n't about to budget for updating apps that work on the existing browser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know quite a few LARGE corporate environments that won't be upgrading any time soon since IE7/8 "breaks" their intranet web apps and they aren't about to budget for updating apps that work on the existing browser.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28702277</id>
	<title>Re:About time</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247666160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Talking about timing: my gf left me 1 hour ago and this is my Slashdot fortune on the bottom of this page: "You will be divorced within a year." (whoa)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Talking about timing : my gf left me 1 hour ago and this is my Slashdot fortune on the bottom of this page : " You will be divorced within a year .
" ( whoa )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Talking about timing: my gf left me 1 hour ago and this is my Slashdot fortune on the bottom of this page: "You will be divorced within a year.
" (whoa)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695213</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28703643</id>
	<title>Re:Why even support a browser?</title>
	<author>jones\_supa</author>
	<datestamp>1247673720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Why not just support the official html standard and be done with it?</p></div></blockquote><p>I guess that's what we're heading towards.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not just support the official html standard and be done with it ? I guess that 's what we 're heading towards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not just support the official html standard and be done with it?I guess that's what we're heading towards.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695507</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695793</id>
	<title>Re:Still mandatory where I work</title>
	<author>powerlord</author>
	<datestamp>1247563980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>We're a midsized business and until we upgrade our ERP system next year we can't migrate off IE6 so I can only imagine how bad it is for shops with tons of custom code. The version of our ECM system that we are currently testing supports IE7 and Firefox with only partial functionality, no IE8. That means we can upgrade to IE7 once we upgrade our ERP system but we will be on IE7 until mid 2012 at least since our systems are on a 3 year rotation.</p></div></blockquote><p>Since IE7 is already getting EOL'ed as IE8 gets pushed out, is there any possibility of pushing to support FireFox instead?  It seems to have quite a few things to recommend it over IE7 on the upgrade path:</p><p>- Available for more platforms (and older platforms), to decouple the Windows dependency from the Browser dependency.<br>- Better standards compliance, so that if the system needs to be updated in the future, it can be done in a way that supports standards which opens up the platform to alternative browser choices (such as being able to access it via Safari or an iPhone for instance?)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We 're a midsized business and until we upgrade our ERP system next year we ca n't migrate off IE6 so I can only imagine how bad it is for shops with tons of custom code .
The version of our ECM system that we are currently testing supports IE7 and Firefox with only partial functionality , no IE8 .
That means we can upgrade to IE7 once we upgrade our ERP system but we will be on IE7 until mid 2012 at least since our systems are on a 3 year rotation.Since IE7 is already getting EOL'ed as IE8 gets pushed out , is there any possibility of pushing to support FireFox instead ?
It seems to have quite a few things to recommend it over IE7 on the upgrade path : - Available for more platforms ( and older platforms ) , to decouple the Windows dependency from the Browser dependency.- Better standards compliance , so that if the system needs to be updated in the future , it can be done in a way that supports standards which opens up the platform to alternative browser choices ( such as being able to access it via Safari or an iPhone for instance ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We're a midsized business and until we upgrade our ERP system next year we can't migrate off IE6 so I can only imagine how bad it is for shops with tons of custom code.
The version of our ECM system that we are currently testing supports IE7 and Firefox with only partial functionality, no IE8.
That means we can upgrade to IE7 once we upgrade our ERP system but we will be on IE7 until mid 2012 at least since our systems are on a 3 year rotation.Since IE7 is already getting EOL'ed as IE8 gets pushed out, is there any possibility of pushing to support FireFox instead?
It seems to have quite a few things to recommend it over IE7 on the upgrade path:- Available for more platforms (and older platforms), to decouple the Windows dependency from the Browser dependency.- Better standards compliance, so that if the system needs to be updated in the future, it can be done in a way that supports standards which opens up the platform to alternative browser choices (such as being able to access it via Safari or an iPhone for instance?
)
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695723</id>
	<title>Re:Last I checked, I couldn't upgrade</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247563680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you have a computer that won't even run XP decently (say, 600 MHz with 512 MB of RAM as the lower end of that range... and tweak it to get rid of a lot of the services you won't be using), trash it and get a new one. That's just sad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you have a computer that wo n't even run XP decently ( say , 600 MHz with 512 MB of RAM as the lower end of that range... and tweak it to get rid of a lot of the services you wo n't be using ) , trash it and get a new one .
That 's just sad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you have a computer that won't even run XP decently (say, 600 MHz with 512 MB of RAM as the lower end of that range... and tweak it to get rid of a lot of the services you won't be using), trash it and get a new one.
That's just sad.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695417</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698191</id>
	<title>It's not just corporate Intranets.</title>
	<author>shippo</author>
	<datestamp>1247576400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only a few weeks ago I was given a URL by a recruitment agency for an on-line skills test which needed to be completed as part of a job application.</p><p>That particular site was coded to reject all login attempts if the user agent wasn't IE. Furthermore there were severe rendering problems if I used anything other than IE6, making the test impossible to complete. As I don't run Windows here by choice this was fairly annoying.</p><p>I ended up having to install a copy of XP under a VM just to complete the test.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only a few weeks ago I was given a URL by a recruitment agency for an on-line skills test which needed to be completed as part of a job application.That particular site was coded to reject all login attempts if the user agent was n't IE .
Furthermore there were severe rendering problems if I used anything other than IE6 , making the test impossible to complete .
As I do n't run Windows here by choice this was fairly annoying.I ended up having to install a copy of XP under a VM just to complete the test .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only a few weeks ago I was given a URL by a recruitment agency for an on-line skills test which needed to be completed as part of a job application.That particular site was coded to reject all login attempts if the user agent wasn't IE.
Furthermore there were severe rendering problems if I used anything other than IE6, making the test impossible to complete.
As I don't run Windows here by choice this was fairly annoying.I ended up having to install a copy of XP under a VM just to complete the test.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696091</id>
	<title>Re:let's go further</title>
	<author>CannonballHead</author>
	<datestamp>1247565000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There may be a time to debate whether or not Windows should exist at all.  People also argue that automatic transmissions are stupid.  (car analogy purpose: people argue about a lot of really stupid things<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) ).  IMO, Windows should exist because a company should be allowed to build software and should be allowed to not care about a standards committee.</p><p>But saying that Windows is the problem behind IE6 not being standards compliant seems a little far fetched.  I suppose you could argue that MS is trying to get a vendor lock-in for their operating system or something like that... that's what the EU appeared to be trying to say and made a pretty stupid argument out of it, IMO.</p><p>IE6 is separate from Windows.  You can upgrade to IE8.  Or IE9 when it comes out.  Or use Firefox, Safari, or Chrome.  Windows is not the problem behind IE6.  No more than Linux is the problem behind KDE4.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There may be a time to debate whether or not Windows should exist at all .
People also argue that automatic transmissions are stupid .
( car analogy purpose : people argue about a lot of really stupid things : ) ) .
IMO , Windows should exist because a company should be allowed to build software and should be allowed to not care about a standards committee.But saying that Windows is the problem behind IE6 not being standards compliant seems a little far fetched .
I suppose you could argue that MS is trying to get a vendor lock-in for their operating system or something like that... that 's what the EU appeared to be trying to say and made a pretty stupid argument out of it , IMO.IE6 is separate from Windows .
You can upgrade to IE8 .
Or IE9 when it comes out .
Or use Firefox , Safari , or Chrome .
Windows is not the problem behind IE6 .
No more than Linux is the problem behind KDE4 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There may be a time to debate whether or not Windows should exist at all.
People also argue that automatic transmissions are stupid.
(car analogy purpose: people argue about a lot of really stupid things :) ).
IMO, Windows should exist because a company should be allowed to build software and should be allowed to not care about a standards committee.But saying that Windows is the problem behind IE6 not being standards compliant seems a little far fetched.
I suppose you could argue that MS is trying to get a vendor lock-in for their operating system or something like that... that's what the EU appeared to be trying to say and made a pretty stupid argument out of it, IMO.IE6 is separate from Windows.
You can upgrade to IE8.
Or IE9 when it comes out.
Or use Firefox, Safari, or Chrome.
Windows is not the problem behind IE6.
No more than Linux is the problem behind KDE4.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696379</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>n30na</author>
	<datestamp>1247566080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But the seats were soft and you had more leg room.</p></div><p>You mean seat.  IE6 could only hold one at a time.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But the seats were soft and you had more leg room.You mean seat .
IE6 could only hold one at a time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But the seats were soft and you had more leg room.You mean seat.
IE6 could only hold one at a time.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695437</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698235</id>
	<title>Re:Still mandatory where I work</title>
	<author>amoeba47</author>
	<datestamp>1247576640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just use the 'non-standards compliant' mode in IE8 and voila, your buggy IE6 code will render fine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just use the 'non-standards compliant ' mode in IE8 and voila , your buggy IE6 code will render fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just use the 'non-standards compliant' mode in IE8 and voila, your buggy IE6 code will render fine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695371</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695495</id>
	<title>Re:Last I checked, I couldn't upgrade</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247562780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Firefox does.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Firefox does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Firefox does.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695417</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695507</id>
	<title>Why even support a browser?</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1247562780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not just support the official html standard and be done with it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not just support the official html standard and be done with it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not just support the official html standard and be done with it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28697775</id>
	<title>IE6 definitely dieing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247573400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I work in a financial institution, where everything runs by rigid corporate guidelines, you can imagine<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....<br>Like many mentioned before me, we are also running IE6 and our timesheets and other webstuff runs solely on IE6, nottin' else.<br>So Fridays we have to use IE for a few minutes<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and on a few select, short intervals<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Darn it.</p><p>That said, they are legacy stuff and will get replaced sooner or later.<br>All our developers develop in first line for firefox, almost exclusively. And I can't see any CIO surviving in our place ever again making anything IE as the base platform for our applications.<br>When it comes to code completion, usually the guys spend a sliver of time if it also works on that other 'dinosaur browser' from Redmond.<br>Just to make the new stuff also also works on their browser, knowing the M$ creativity to make things incompatible<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>The future on the web is seriously out of the hands of Redmond!  Good riddance!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I work in a financial institution , where everything runs by rigid corporate guidelines , you can imagine ....Like many mentioned before me , we are also running IE6 and our timesheets and other webstuff runs solely on IE6 , nottin ' else.So Fridays we have to use IE for a few minutes ... and on a few select , short intervals ... Darn it.That said , they are legacy stuff and will get replaced sooner or later.All our developers develop in first line for firefox , almost exclusively .
And I ca n't see any CIO surviving in our place ever again making anything IE as the base platform for our applications.When it comes to code completion , usually the guys spend a sliver of time if it also works on that other 'dinosaur browser ' from Redmond.Just to make the new stuff also also works on their browser , knowing the M $ creativity to make things incompatible ...The future on the web is seriously out of the hands of Redmond !
Good riddance !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work in a financial institution, where everything runs by rigid corporate guidelines, you can imagine ....Like many mentioned before me, we are also running IE6 and our timesheets and other webstuff runs solely on IE6, nottin' else.So Fridays we have to use IE for a few minutes ... and on a few select, short intervals ... Darn it.That said, they are legacy stuff and will get replaced sooner or later.All our developers develop in first line for firefox, almost exclusively.
And I can't see any CIO surviving in our place ever again making anything IE as the base platform for our applications.When it comes to code completion, usually the guys spend a sliver of time if it also works on that other 'dinosaur browser' from Redmond.Just to make the new stuff also also works on their browser, knowing the M$ creativity to make things incompatible ...The future on the web is seriously out of the hands of Redmond!
Good riddance!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696111</id>
	<title>Digg wants to phase IE6 out too.</title>
	<author>antdude</author>
	<datestamp>1247565120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Read <a href="http://blog.digg.com/?p=878" title="digg.com">here</a> [digg.com].</p><p>So people with old Windows like 98, 2000, etc. will have to other Web browsers like old Firefox v2.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Read here [ digg.com ] .So people with old Windows like 98 , 2000 , etc .
will have to other Web browsers like old Firefox v2 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Read here [digg.com].So people with old Windows like 98, 2000, etc.
will have to other Web browsers like old Firefox v2.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698143</id>
	<title>Re:Still mandatory where I work</title>
	<author>Bourbonium</author>
	<datestamp>1247576100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tell your IT foiks that IE8 has a "compatibility mode" tab that launches the IE6 rendering engine in an isolated/sandboxed tab, so that any web page coded for IE6 can be displayed in IE8 if you can train your users to click on the Compabitility tab.  I think it is rather like the IETab extension you can install in Firefox, which will open a Firefox tab using the IE6 engine.  I use it to play NetFlix "Watch Now" videos in Firefox, which normally only play in IE.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tell your IT foiks that IE8 has a " compatibility mode " tab that launches the IE6 rendering engine in an isolated/sandboxed tab , so that any web page coded for IE6 can be displayed in IE8 if you can train your users to click on the Compabitility tab .
I think it is rather like the IETab extension you can install in Firefox , which will open a Firefox tab using the IE6 engine .
I use it to play NetFlix " Watch Now " videos in Firefox , which normally only play in IE .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tell your IT foiks that IE8 has a "compatibility mode" tab that launches the IE6 rendering engine in an isolated/sandboxed tab, so that any web page coded for IE6 can be displayed in IE8 if you can train your users to click on the Compabitility tab.
I think it is rather like the IETab extension you can install in Firefox, which will open a Firefox tab using the IE6 engine.
I use it to play NetFlix "Watch Now" videos in Firefox, which normally only play in IE.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695279</id>
	<title>My feelings...</title>
	<author>pizzach</author>
	<datestamp>1247605020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>;\_;</htmltext>
<tokenext>; \ _ ;</tokentext>
<sentencetext>;\_;</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28699889</id>
	<title>How about all IEs?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1247590740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I were a big site like YouTube, I'd phase out all non-standard rendering, and go full standard.</p><p>Then I would direct all the heat straight to Microsoft (and others just as much if they do something non-standard or have bugs).</p><p>I could imagine making it more comfortable, by pre-testing the site with all browsers, and then redirect to a site that makes it all clear in less than 7 seconds, who it is that is to blame for this, and why. I would also display a browser-dependent e-mail address and redirect all mails that go to that address right to the bug trackers / mailing lists of that browser management or development team.</p><p>Ok, this is easier <a href="http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-DE-daily-20080701-20090715" title="statcounter.com">in Germany, with the IE (all versions) having close to 28 percent with a strong trend downwards.</a> [statcounter.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I were a big site like YouTube , I 'd phase out all non-standard rendering , and go full standard.Then I would direct all the heat straight to Microsoft ( and others just as much if they do something non-standard or have bugs ) .I could imagine making it more comfortable , by pre-testing the site with all browsers , and then redirect to a site that makes it all clear in less than 7 seconds , who it is that is to blame for this , and why .
I would also display a browser-dependent e-mail address and redirect all mails that go to that address right to the bug trackers / mailing lists of that browser management or development team.Ok , this is easier in Germany , with the IE ( all versions ) having close to 28 percent with a strong trend downwards .
[ statcounter.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I were a big site like YouTube, I'd phase out all non-standard rendering, and go full standard.Then I would direct all the heat straight to Microsoft (and others just as much if they do something non-standard or have bugs).I could imagine making it more comfortable, by pre-testing the site with all browsers, and then redirect to a site that makes it all clear in less than 7 seconds, who it is that is to blame for this, and why.
I would also display a browser-dependent e-mail address and redirect all mails that go to that address right to the bug trackers / mailing lists of that browser management or development team.Ok, this is easier in Germany, with the IE (all versions) having close to 28 percent with a strong trend downwards.
[statcounter.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28700777</id>
	<title>Re:BRAVO. Earns my respect double on this...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247688060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>First, actions like this from massively broad based sites are critical to finally wiping the scourge of IE6 development off the planet.  So initial Kudos to YouTube for taking the step.</p><p>Of course, YouTube == Google; so no shock that they're willing to disparage IE6, right?</p><p>But here's the difference between Google and Microsoft --</p><p>The banner shown here, on YouTube (owned by Google) doesn't JUST list Chrome as the upgrade path.  It clearly gives equal exposure to Chrome, Firefox, and IE8 -- the biggest competing product to its own browser.</p><p>That's the right way to do be competitive in a social networking context.  I think we know that if this was say, Bing! or Hotmail, it would show a link to IE8 but that's it.   Well, ok, we don't KNOW that, but most of us assume it.  I certainly do.</p></div><p>but no Safari or Opera...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>First , actions like this from massively broad based sites are critical to finally wiping the scourge of IE6 development off the planet .
So initial Kudos to YouTube for taking the step.Of course , YouTube = = Google ; so no shock that they 're willing to disparage IE6 , right ? But here 's the difference between Google and Microsoft --The banner shown here , on YouTube ( owned by Google ) does n't JUST list Chrome as the upgrade path .
It clearly gives equal exposure to Chrome , Firefox , and IE8 -- the biggest competing product to its own browser.That 's the right way to do be competitive in a social networking context .
I think we know that if this was say , Bing !
or Hotmail , it would show a link to IE8 but that 's it .
Well , ok , we do n't KNOW that , but most of us assume it .
I certainly do.but no Safari or Opera.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First, actions like this from massively broad based sites are critical to finally wiping the scourge of IE6 development off the planet.
So initial Kudos to YouTube for taking the step.Of course, YouTube == Google; so no shock that they're willing to disparage IE6, right?But here's the difference between Google and Microsoft --The banner shown here, on YouTube (owned by Google) doesn't JUST list Chrome as the upgrade path.
It clearly gives equal exposure to Chrome, Firefox, and IE8 -- the biggest competing product to its own browser.That's the right way to do be competitive in a social networking context.
I think we know that if this was say, Bing!
or Hotmail, it would show a link to IE8 but that's it.
Well, ok, we don't KNOW that, but most of us assume it.
I certainly do.but no Safari or Opera...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695585</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28700025</id>
	<title>Re:Still mandatory where I work</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1247591940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cry me a river. ^^</p><p>Then they should have invested in working technology!</p><p>This will be great, because they will finally learn it the painful way.</p><p>If you always protect them, put a pillow here and there, and never let anything come to them, how exactly will they get any motivation to learn anything at all??</p><p>If you let them still run IE6, they will run it for 100 years if they can. And essentially you will be responsible for it, because after all, you would still protect them from that ohh so harsh, bad, bad, reality. ^^</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cry me a river .
^ ^ Then they should have invested in working technology ! This will be great , because they will finally learn it the painful way.If you always protect them , put a pillow here and there , and never let anything come to them , how exactly will they get any motivation to learn anything at all ?
? If you let them still run IE6 , they will run it for 100 years if they can .
And essentially you will be responsible for it , because after all , you would still protect them from that ohh so harsh , bad , bad , reality .
^ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cry me a river.
^^Then they should have invested in working technology!This will be great, because they will finally learn it the painful way.If you always protect them, put a pillow here and there, and never let anything come to them, how exactly will they get any motivation to learn anything at all?
?If you let them still run IE6, they will run it for 100 years if they can.
And essentially you will be responsible for it, because after all, you would still protect them from that ohh so harsh, bad, bad, reality.
^^</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695433</id>
	<title>Slight problem...</title>
	<author>Schnapple</author>
	<datestamp>1247562480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>On the one hand if Joe Average User can't get to YouTube.com anymore then yes they'll either upgrade to IE7/8, or maybe use that crazy Firefox browser.<br>
<br>
However, we still run across many many clients who still mandate IE6 in their workplace. No upgrading to IE7/8, no other browsers than IE6, etc.<br>
<br>
So they'll upgrade finally now too, right?<br>
<br>
Nope - those are also the same companies that probably block access to YouTube for bandwidth/time wasting reasons.</htmltext>
<tokenext>On the one hand if Joe Average User ca n't get to YouTube.com anymore then yes they 'll either upgrade to IE7/8 , or maybe use that crazy Firefox browser .
However , we still run across many many clients who still mandate IE6 in their workplace .
No upgrading to IE7/8 , no other browsers than IE6 , etc .
So they 'll upgrade finally now too , right ?
Nope - those are also the same companies that probably block access to YouTube for bandwidth/time wasting reasons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the one hand if Joe Average User can't get to YouTube.com anymore then yes they'll either upgrade to IE7/8, or maybe use that crazy Firefox browser.
However, we still run across many many clients who still mandate IE6 in their workplace.
No upgrading to IE7/8, no other browsers than IE6, etc.
So they'll upgrade finally now too, right?
Nope - those are also the same companies that probably block access to YouTube for bandwidth/time wasting reasons.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28699133</id>
	<title>Re:About time</title>
	<author>numbski</author>
	<datestamp>1247584080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why constrain yourself to 6?  I mean why make your life difficult?</p><p>Live a little!  Just ditch all IE version for a day.  See what happens.  What are people going to do?  Flood your support lines?  Oh - right, you don't have any support lines.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why constrain yourself to 6 ?
I mean why make your life difficult ? Live a little !
Just ditch all IE version for a day .
See what happens .
What are people going to do ?
Flood your support lines ?
Oh - right , you do n't have any support lines .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why constrain yourself to 6?
I mean why make your life difficult?Live a little!
Just ditch all IE version for a day.
See what happens.
What are people going to do?
Flood your support lines?
Oh - right, you don't have any support lines.
:)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695213</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696677</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>Lennie</author>
	<datestamp>1247567520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually IE5.5 is the least buggy IE, IE6 is probably the worst, it's very unpredictable in how it will render/break webpages.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually IE5.5 is the least buggy IE , IE6 is probably the worst , it 's very unpredictable in how it will render/break webpages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually IE5.5 is the least buggy IE, IE6 is probably the worst, it's very unpredictable in how it will render/break webpages.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695353</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247562120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The navigation buttons are all clustered together (unlike IE 7).  That's the only advantage I see.  For me, a browser without tabs is 100\% useless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The navigation buttons are all clustered together ( unlike IE 7 ) .
That 's the only advantage I see .
For me , a browser without tabs is 100 \ % useless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The navigation buttons are all clustered together (unlike IE 7).
That's the only advantage I see.
For me, a browser without tabs is 100\% useless.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696029</id>
	<title>Re:Still mandatory where I work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247564820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does anyone really care if corporate America is left in the dark ages?  Let's face it - corporations are there to serve the public.  When they fail to serve, they are forgotten and left behind.  They will either adapt to what the consumers demand from the web, or they can abandon the web, and become part of history.  No problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone really care if corporate America is left in the dark ages ?
Let 's face it - corporations are there to serve the public .
When they fail to serve , they are forgotten and left behind .
They will either adapt to what the consumers demand from the web , or they can abandon the web , and become part of history .
No problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone really care if corporate America is left in the dark ages?
Let's face it - corporations are there to serve the public.
When they fail to serve, they are forgotten and left behind.
They will either adapt to what the consumers demand from the web, or they can abandon the web, and become part of history.
No problem.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695371</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696439</id>
	<title>browser types for my sites:</title>
	<author>stimpleton</author>
	<datestamp>1247566380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>

I am a webmaster for a company that primarily serves agriculteral sector websites.<br> <br>

We have 60 sites and proportion is<br> <br>

1. 54.14\% - Internet Explorer 7.0<br>

2. 8.14\% - Internet Explorer 6.0<br>

3. 7.90\% - Firefox 3.0</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am a webmaster for a company that primarily serves agriculteral sector websites .
We have 60 sites and proportion is 1 .
54.14 \ % - Internet Explorer 7.0 2 .
8.14 \ % - Internet Explorer 6.0 3 .
7.90 \ % - Firefox 3.0</tokentext>
<sentencetext>

I am a webmaster for a company that primarily serves agriculteral sector websites.
We have 60 sites and proportion is 

1.
54.14\% - Internet Explorer 7.0

2.
8.14\% - Internet Explorer 6.0

3.
7.90\% - Firefox 3.0</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698647</id>
	<title>Re:Support? What do you mean, support?</title>
	<author>amicusNYCL</author>
	<datestamp>1247579820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Youtube is a website, with an embedded flash object, that plays a movie. Youtube doesn't even need javascript at all (if you know the urls to the embedded flash).</p></div><p>Really, that's all it is?  How do all of these movies get there, do they just magically appear?  I was under the impression that people created accounts, managed their accounts, logged in to upload movies, commented on other people's movies, etc etc etc.  There's also a link that says "Customize this homepage", I'm not sure what that's all about, some more magic involved, no doubt.  Many boxes also seem to have tools indicating you can move, resize or close the boxes on the pages.  Some more arcane trickery there, you can be sure.  Then there seem to be some clickable ratings, favorites, sharing with others, playlists.. I don't understand any of that, but I'm having several 14 year olds look over it and get back to me.</p><p>This seems like a bit more than a page with an embedded Flash object, unless you're suggesting that the entire Youtube UI be implemented as a single Flash movie.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Youtube is a website , with an embedded flash object , that plays a movie .
Youtube does n't even need javascript at all ( if you know the urls to the embedded flash ) .Really , that 's all it is ?
How do all of these movies get there , do they just magically appear ?
I was under the impression that people created accounts , managed their accounts , logged in to upload movies , commented on other people 's movies , etc etc etc .
There 's also a link that says " Customize this homepage " , I 'm not sure what that 's all about , some more magic involved , no doubt .
Many boxes also seem to have tools indicating you can move , resize or close the boxes on the pages .
Some more arcane trickery there , you can be sure .
Then there seem to be some clickable ratings , favorites , sharing with others , playlists.. I do n't understand any of that , but I 'm having several 14 year olds look over it and get back to me.This seems like a bit more than a page with an embedded Flash object , unless you 're suggesting that the entire Youtube UI be implemented as a single Flash movie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Youtube is a website, with an embedded flash object, that plays a movie.
Youtube doesn't even need javascript at all (if you know the urls to the embedded flash).Really, that's all it is?
How do all of these movies get there, do they just magically appear?
I was under the impression that people created accounts, managed their accounts, logged in to upload movies, commented on other people's movies, etc etc etc.
There's also a link that says "Customize this homepage", I'm not sure what that's all about, some more magic involved, no doubt.
Many boxes also seem to have tools indicating you can move, resize or close the boxes on the pages.
Some more arcane trickery there, you can be sure.
Then there seem to be some clickable ratings, favorites, sharing with others, playlists.. I don't understand any of that, but I'm having several 14 year olds look over it and get back to me.This seems like a bit more than a page with an embedded Flash object, unless you're suggesting that the entire Youtube UI be implemented as a single Flash movie.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695299</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28702077</id>
	<title>Re:Praise Jeebus!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247664660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, we're stuck using IE6 due to 'legacy apps'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , we 're stuck using IE6 due to 'legacy apps'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, we're stuck using IE6 due to 'legacy apps'</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695455</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696165</id>
	<title>Re:Still mandatory where I work</title>
	<author>Spad</author>
	<datestamp>1247565360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The NHS (~1.3 Million staff) National Patient Record System still only "officially" supports IE6, though most of it seems to work in IE7 anecdotally, but IE8 doesn't have a prayer. Given that Vista (32-bit only) support didn't arrive until March of this year and there's no 64-bit support on their roadmap, not to mention all the other critical NHS webapps that are IE6/2K-XP/32-bit only, I wouldn't expect them to move off IE6 for quite some time yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The NHS ( ~ 1.3 Million staff ) National Patient Record System still only " officially " supports IE6 , though most of it seems to work in IE7 anecdotally , but IE8 does n't have a prayer .
Given that Vista ( 32-bit only ) support did n't arrive until March of this year and there 's no 64-bit support on their roadmap , not to mention all the other critical NHS webapps that are IE6/2K-XP/32-bit only , I would n't expect them to move off IE6 for quite some time yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The NHS (~1.3 Million staff) National Patient Record System still only "officially" supports IE6, though most of it seems to work in IE7 anecdotally, but IE8 doesn't have a prayer.
Given that Vista (32-bit only) support didn't arrive until March of this year and there's no 64-bit support on their roadmap, not to mention all the other critical NHS webapps that are IE6/2K-XP/32-bit only, I wouldn't expect them to move off IE6 for quite some time yet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695371</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28697257</id>
	<title>Mod Informative, please.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247570340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to agree.</p><p>I prefer to use a web browser, not an add-on, extension fluffed "application display system."  HTML.  No CSS, no mime-types, no scripting.</p><p>I can't say when, but<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. changed something to make using this site painful 6-12 months ago.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to agree.I prefer to use a web browser , not an add-on , extension fluffed " application display system .
" HTML .
No CSS , no mime-types , no scripting.I ca n't say when , but / .
changed something to make using this site painful 6-12 months ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to agree.I prefer to use a web browser, not an add-on, extension fluffed "application display system.
"  HTML.
No CSS, no mime-types, no scripting.I can't say when, but /.
changed something to make using this site painful 6-12 months ago.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695499</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696269</id>
	<title>Twitter</title>
	<author>Pulse\_Instance</author>
	<datestamp>1247565720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This Twitter search reflects the jubilation breaking out all over the Net</p></div><p>All that twitter search shows is that people who use twitter are commenting on it. It does not show jubilation breaking out all over the Net.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This Twitter search reflects the jubilation breaking out all over the NetAll that twitter search shows is that people who use twitter are commenting on it .
It does not show jubilation breaking out all over the Net .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This Twitter search reflects the jubilation breaking out all over the NetAll that twitter search shows is that people who use twitter are commenting on it.
It does not show jubilation breaking out all over the Net.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695799</id>
	<title>My own stats...</title>
	<author>BigBadBus</author>
	<datestamp>1247563980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>show that support for IE6 is not quite dead yet...see <a href="http://www.paullee.com/computers" title="paullee.com">here</a> [paullee.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>show that support for IE6 is not quite dead yet...see here [ paullee.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>show that support for IE6 is not quite dead yet...see here [paullee.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28697323</id>
	<title>Re:Still mandatory where I work</title>
	<author>Phroggy</author>
	<datestamp>1247570760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I know quite a few LARGE corporate environments that won't be upgrading any time soon since IE7/8 "breaks" their intranet web apps and they aren't about to budget for updating apps that work on the existing browser.</p></div><p>Dropping support in YouTube is a VERY positive step.  Whatever sites the managers in those corporate environments go to for fun need to drop support for IE6, and then the problem will magically go away.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know quite a few LARGE corporate environments that wo n't be upgrading any time soon since IE7/8 " breaks " their intranet web apps and they are n't about to budget for updating apps that work on the existing browser.Dropping support in YouTube is a VERY positive step .
Whatever sites the managers in those corporate environments go to for fun need to drop support for IE6 , and then the problem will magically go away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know quite a few LARGE corporate environments that won't be upgrading any time soon since IE7/8 "breaks" their intranet web apps and they aren't about to budget for updating apps that work on the existing browser.Dropping support in YouTube is a VERY positive step.
Whatever sites the managers in those corporate environments go to for fun need to drop support for IE6, and then the problem will magically go away.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695371</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695305</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247605080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, you're saying it was a decent browser in all ways except what truly makes a decent browser decent?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , you 're saying it was a decent browser in all ways except what truly makes a decent browser decent ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, you're saying it was a decent browser in all ways except what truly makes a decent browser decent?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696639</id>
	<title>Re:Praise Jeebus!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247567340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Should that be "Don't phase me, bro!"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Should that be " Do n't phase me , bro !
" ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Should that be "Don't phase me, bro!
"?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695455</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696209</id>
	<title>Re:Hello? IT Department?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247565540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OMG, not the "T" word!</htmltext>
<tokenext>OMG , not the " T " word !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OMG, not the "T" word!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695359</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695739</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247563740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>for(x in document.write){ document.write(x); }</p><p>I'm informed this crashes IE6 =D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>for ( x in document.write ) { document.write ( x ) ; } I 'm informed this crashes IE6 = D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for(x in document.write){ document.write(x); }I'm informed this crashes IE6 =D</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695351</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695531</id>
	<title>WAIT A SECOND!!!</title>
	<author>yurtinus</author>
	<datestamp>1247562900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Twitter search?

Really?


I mean.... Really?!?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Twitter search ?
Really ? I mean... .
Really ? ! ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Twitter search?
Really?


I mean....
Really?!?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28707751</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>jake\_ie8team</author>
	<datestamp>1247649660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>vux984, nice car analogy.

For those of you planning on making this switch and upgrading to Internet Explorer 8 in order to continue visiting YouTube, be sure to download and install IE 8 from <a href="http://www.browserforthebetter.com?ocid=ie8\_sm\_a" title="browserforthebetter.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.browserforthebetter.com?ocid=ie8\_sm\_a</a> [browserforthebetter.com]
and donate to charity in the process. 8 meals are donated to Feeding America for every complete download and install of IE 8 from <a href="http://www.browserforthebetter.com?ocid=ie8\_sm\_a" title="browserforthebetter.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.browserforthebetter.com?ocid=ie8\_sm\_a</a> [browserforthebetter.com]

Also, for those of you who have already made the change and are pleased with your new browser, you should become a fan of the Official Internet Explorer Facebook page at http;//www.facebook.com/internetexplorer to get all the latest news and info about IE 8.

 - Jake

MSFT Internet Explorer Outreach Team</htmltext>
<tokenext>vux984 , nice car analogy .
For those of you planning on making this switch and upgrading to Internet Explorer 8 in order to continue visiting YouTube , be sure to download and install IE 8 from http : //www.browserforthebetter.com ? ocid = ie8 \ _sm \ _a [ browserforthebetter.com ] and donate to charity in the process .
8 meals are donated to Feeding America for every complete download and install of IE 8 from http : //www.browserforthebetter.com ? ocid = ie8 \ _sm \ _a [ browserforthebetter.com ] Also , for those of you who have already made the change and are pleased with your new browser , you should become a fan of the Official Internet Explorer Facebook page at http ; //www.facebook.com/internetexplorer to get all the latest news and info about IE 8 .
- Jake MSFT Internet Explorer Outreach Team</tokentext>
<sentencetext>vux984, nice car analogy.
For those of you planning on making this switch and upgrading to Internet Explorer 8 in order to continue visiting YouTube, be sure to download and install IE 8 from http://www.browserforthebetter.com?ocid=ie8\_sm\_a [browserforthebetter.com]
and donate to charity in the process.
8 meals are donated to Feeding America for every complete download and install of IE 8 from http://www.browserforthebetter.com?ocid=ie8\_sm\_a [browserforthebetter.com]

Also, for those of you who have already made the change and are pleased with your new browser, you should become a fan of the Official Internet Explorer Facebook page at http;//www.facebook.com/internetexplorer to get all the latest news and info about IE 8.
- Jake

MSFT Internet Explorer Outreach Team</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695437</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698577</id>
	<title>Windows2000 nooes</title>
	<author>u64</author>
	<datestamp>1247579340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I keep IE for backward compatibility, for those
extremly rare sites that Opera dont handle well.
Those sites are growing so few that i cant even give an example.

If i could Uninstall IE6 before installing more IE bloat.

Most people i know refuse to switch up to Opera since it 'looks' different.
I'm going to switch the Opera icon shortcut
to IE-icon and rename it Internet Explorer 9...

Or just 'Internet'. since that's what people think it is.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I keep IE for backward compatibility , for those extremly rare sites that Opera dont handle well .
Those sites are growing so few that i cant even give an example .
If i could Uninstall IE6 before installing more IE bloat .
Most people i know refuse to switch up to Opera since it 'looks ' different .
I 'm going to switch the Opera icon shortcut to IE-icon and rename it Internet Explorer 9.. . Or just 'Internet' .
since that 's what people think it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I keep IE for backward compatibility, for those
extremly rare sites that Opera dont handle well.
Those sites are growing so few that i cant even give an example.
If i could Uninstall IE6 before installing more IE bloat.
Most people i know refuse to switch up to Opera since it 'looks' different.
I'm going to switch the Opera icon shortcut
to IE-icon and rename it Internet Explorer 9...

Or just 'Internet'.
since that's what people think it is.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695871</id>
	<title>The enterprise desktop browser - even more so?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247564280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This could in fact make IE6 last longer in some enterprises.  No youtube support, No digg support. Your pointy-hair boss might like it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This could in fact make IE6 last longer in some enterprises .
No youtube support , No digg support .
Your pointy-hair boss might like it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This could in fact make IE6 last longer in some enterprises.
No youtube support, No digg support.
Your pointy-hair boss might like it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28697433</id>
	<title>Re:Still mandatory where I work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247571240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You got some stupid IT guys in your company<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) IE the worst software/browser ever made<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You got some stupid IT guys in your company ; ) IE the worst software/browser ever made ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You got some stupid IT guys in your company ;) IE the worst software/browser ever made ;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695371</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695937</id>
	<title>Re:no need of restrictions then</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1247564520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But what would the supervisors have left to do all day?</htmltext>
<tokenext>But what would the supervisors have left to do all day ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But what would the supervisors have left to do all day?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695425</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28697287</id>
	<title>Re:Praise Jeebus!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247570520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agreed, IE versions  8 are the worst products to ever come from Redmond. Every time I add a feature to our Internet banking product I have to battle to support IE. On the other hand, issues with other browsers are rare, they all seem to react the same. (Almost like there is a standard or something)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed , IE versions 8 are the worst products to ever come from Redmond .
Every time I add a feature to our Internet banking product I have to battle to support IE .
On the other hand , issues with other browsers are rare , they all seem to react the same .
( Almost like there is a standard or something )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed, IE versions  8 are the worst products to ever come from Redmond.
Every time I add a feature to our Internet banking product I have to battle to support IE.
On the other hand, issues with other browsers are rare, they all seem to react the same.
(Almost like there is a standard or something)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695255</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695825</id>
	<title>In other news - cubicle productivity soars</title>
	<author>Zantetsuken</author>
	<datestamp>1247564100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>In other news, office cubicle productivity has coincidentally soared to heights not seen since before the launch of Youtube... Next up...</htmltext>
<tokenext>In other news , office cubicle productivity has coincidentally soared to heights not seen since before the launch of Youtube... Next up.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In other news, office cubicle productivity has coincidentally soared to heights not seen since before the launch of Youtube... Next up...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28697709</id>
	<title>Re:Market share</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247572980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And who cares about corporations who refuse to move on from a tool that even the creator has killed off?<br>Survival of the fittest always wins, always.</p><p>Also, this is probably the most retarded reason for IE6 being used.<br>Why the hell don't some companies allow the use of another browser?<br>This is a much better thing for several reasons, 2 main ones being:<br>1) More secure since the buggy IE6 isn't being used for external sites<br>2) More up-to-date, of course.</p><p>IE6 is fairly simple to setup to run entirely separate and within a sandbox with a few scripts and some copy-paste-renaming. (or even easier, run that program that has the library of all IE browsers in IE6 mode)</p><p>Also, a little bit of the reason i used IE6 for a while even when i had FF1.5 around was because it was still fairly fast to get open and get to sites, had a nice simple "compactable" GUI.<br>Reason i despise the new IE browsers is thanks to Microsoft "Vistafying" everything.  (read: it fucking sucks, shit never looked nicer)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And who cares about corporations who refuse to move on from a tool that even the creator has killed off ? Survival of the fittest always wins , always.Also , this is probably the most retarded reason for IE6 being used.Why the hell do n't some companies allow the use of another browser ? This is a much better thing for several reasons , 2 main ones being : 1 ) More secure since the buggy IE6 is n't being used for external sites2 ) More up-to-date , of course.IE6 is fairly simple to setup to run entirely separate and within a sandbox with a few scripts and some copy-paste-renaming .
( or even easier , run that program that has the library of all IE browsers in IE6 mode ) Also , a little bit of the reason i used IE6 for a while even when i had FF1.5 around was because it was still fairly fast to get open and get to sites , had a nice simple " compactable " GUI.Reason i despise the new IE browsers is thanks to Microsoft " Vistafying " everything .
( read : it fucking sucks , shit never looked nicer )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And who cares about corporations who refuse to move on from a tool that even the creator has killed off?Survival of the fittest always wins, always.Also, this is probably the most retarded reason for IE6 being used.Why the hell don't some companies allow the use of another browser?This is a much better thing for several reasons, 2 main ones being:1) More secure since the buggy IE6 isn't being used for external sites2) More up-to-date, of course.IE6 is fairly simple to setup to run entirely separate and within a sandbox with a few scripts and some copy-paste-renaming.
(or even easier, run that program that has the library of all IE browsers in IE6 mode)Also, a little bit of the reason i used IE6 for a while even when i had FF1.5 around was because it was still fairly fast to get open and get to sites, had a nice simple "compactable" GUI.Reason i despise the new IE browsers is thanks to Microsoft "Vistafying" everything.
(read: it fucking sucks, shit never looked nicer)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695451</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28707629</id>
	<title>Re:Nice banner. What about other browsers?</title>
	<author>Loopy1492</author>
	<datestamp>1247649060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I understand, though.  I, personally, don't code for Opera because... uh... it's Opera and I don't care if Opera users can see my site properly.  Safari, I think I can understand because form elements can render real funky in Safari and sometimes some javascript events explode in Safari.  I am sure they're working on it, but it'll take time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I understand , though .
I , personally , do n't code for Opera because... uh... it 's Opera and I do n't care if Opera users can see my site properly .
Safari , I think I can understand because form elements can render real funky in Safari and sometimes some javascript events explode in Safari .
I am sure they 're working on it , but it 'll take time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I understand, though.
I, personally, don't code for Opera because... uh... it's Opera and I don't care if Opera users can see my site properly.
Safari, I think I can understand because form elements can render real funky in Safari and sometimes some javascript events explode in Safari.
I am sure they're working on it, but it'll take time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698911</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28700071</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1247592360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You forgot<br>non-deterministic rendering,<br>"Object not found",<br>"error in line 50" (when you got 20 files, and then it's not in like 50 anyway, but somewhere below or above it.)<br>non-deterministic rendering,<br>non-deterministic rendering,<br>and, you guessed it:<br>non-deterministic rendering.</p><p>There's nothing worse than unreliable race-conditions in page interpretation, and a huge mess of bugs, making it impossible to know if the 21st reload and the click one pixel below when the moon stands above Redmond, will render everything completely different, or just one pixel off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You forgotnon-deterministic rendering , " Object not found " , " error in line 50 " ( when you got 20 files , and then it 's not in like 50 anyway , but somewhere below or above it .
) non-deterministic rendering,non-deterministic rendering,and , you guessed it : non-deterministic rendering.There 's nothing worse than unreliable race-conditions in page interpretation , and a huge mess of bugs , making it impossible to know if the 21st reload and the click one pixel below when the moon stands above Redmond , will render everything completely different , or just one pixel off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You forgotnon-deterministic rendering,"Object not found","error in line 50" (when you got 20 files, and then it's not in like 50 anyway, but somewhere below or above it.
)non-deterministic rendering,non-deterministic rendering,and, you guessed it:non-deterministic rendering.There's nothing worse than unreliable race-conditions in page interpretation, and a huge mess of bugs, making it impossible to know if the 21st reload and the click one pixel below when the moon stands above Redmond, will render everything completely different, or just one pixel off.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695351</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695425</id>
	<title>no need of restrictions then</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247562420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>if IE6 is not supported by youtube, and many other popular, non work related sites follow suit, wouldnt enterprises prefer to keep IE6 as it would automatically prevent employees from accessing video/social networking sites from work, and additional money would not  have to be spent on proxies and other content restriction system??</p><p>since their own apps are in house they can keep IE6 forever w/o any problems</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>if IE6 is not supported by youtube , and many other popular , non work related sites follow suit , wouldnt enterprises prefer to keep IE6 as it would automatically prevent employees from accessing video/social networking sites from work , and additional money would not have to be spent on proxies and other content restriction system ?
? since their own apps are in house they can keep IE6 forever w/o any problems</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if IE6 is not supported by youtube, and many other popular, non work related sites follow suit, wouldnt enterprises prefer to keep IE6 as it would automatically prevent employees from accessing video/social networking sites from work, and additional money would not  have to be spent on proxies and other content restriction system?
?since their own apps are in house they can keep IE6 forever w/o any problems</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695335</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247562000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Other than that , how was the play , Mrs. Lincoln ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28700585</id>
	<title>Re:If you get rid of IE6, you will rid also Win2K</title>
	<author>ArthurDA</author>
	<datestamp>1247598420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd say that you likely have bigger issues...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd say that you likely have bigger issues.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd say that you likely have bigger issues...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695959</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695359</id>
	<title>Re:Hello? IT Department?</title>
	<author>CorporateSuit</author>
	<datestamp>1247562120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is why smart web developers use tables.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is why smart web developers use tables .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is why smart web developers use tables.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695303</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695267</id>
	<title>I *WISH* it was down in the single digits</title>
	<author>BlueBoxSW.com</author>
	<datestamp>1247604960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My experiences with large corp and gov't clients tells me otherwise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My experiences with large corp and gov't clients tells me otherwise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My experiences with large corp and gov't clients tells me otherwise.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28697761</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>bertoelcon</author>
	<datestamp>1247573280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My grandmother made me put IE6 back of her computer because she didn't like the tabs at all. "Lack of tabs" isn't horrible its just a niche now to not want them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My grandmother made me put IE6 back of her computer because she did n't like the tabs at all .
" Lack of tabs " is n't horrible its just a niche now to not want them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My grandmother made me put IE6 back of her computer because she didn't like the tabs at all.
"Lack of tabs" isn't horrible its just a niche now to not want them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695351</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28697305</id>
	<title>Re:Still mandatory where I work</title>
	<author>hedwards</author>
	<datestamp>1247570580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let me guess, these are the same large corporations that are running botnets because they didn't bother to budget for proper security measures either. I'd love to know which corporations those are so that I can be sure to never do business with them until they've gotten some proper budgets in place.<br> <br>

That sounds like the same bullshit that led TD Ameritrade to not know about the trojan that was providing spammers with customer contact information.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let me guess , these are the same large corporations that are running botnets because they did n't bother to budget for proper security measures either .
I 'd love to know which corporations those are so that I can be sure to never do business with them until they 've gotten some proper budgets in place .
That sounds like the same bullshit that led TD Ameritrade to not know about the trojan that was providing spammers with customer contact information .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let me guess, these are the same large corporations that are running botnets because they didn't bother to budget for proper security measures either.
I'd love to know which corporations those are so that I can be sure to never do business with them until they've gotten some proper budgets in place.
That sounds like the same bullshit that led TD Ameritrade to not know about the trojan that was providing spammers with customer contact information.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695371</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28700869</id>
	<title>Re:Except IE is the only one that works with YouTu</title>
	<author>FireFury03</author>
	<datestamp>1247689980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Perhaps IE 8 will work with YouTube, I don't know, but I fail to see why I should have to upgrade to Microsoft's latest just because YouTube and Adobe can't get their act together.</p></div><p>You don't - there are plenty of other browsers not written by Microsoft that can handle YouTube just fine (ignoring the fact that Flash is the most inefficient video player ever invented).  Or you could just stop using YouTube.  No one is "forcing" you to do anything.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps IE 8 will work with YouTube , I do n't know , but I fail to see why I should have to upgrade to Microsoft 's latest just because YouTube and Adobe ca n't get their act together.You do n't - there are plenty of other browsers not written by Microsoft that can handle YouTube just fine ( ignoring the fact that Flash is the most inefficient video player ever invented ) .
Or you could just stop using YouTube .
No one is " forcing " you to do anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps IE 8 will work with YouTube, I don't know, but I fail to see why I should have to upgrade to Microsoft's latest just because YouTube and Adobe can't get their act together.You don't - there are plenty of other browsers not written by Microsoft that can handle YouTube just fine (ignoring the fact that Flash is the most inefficient video player ever invented).
Or you could just stop using YouTube.
No one is "forcing" you to do anything.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698995</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696399</id>
	<title>Obligatory reference</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247566140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Soviet Russia IE6 phases out support FOR YOU!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Soviet Russia IE6 phases out support FOR YOU !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Soviet Russia IE6 phases out support FOR YOU!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696563</id>
	<title>Why link to IE 8?</title>
	<author>SnapShot</author>
	<datestamp>1247566980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder why they included a link to IE 8 in the banner?  Why not Opera or Safari instead?  If nothing else, they probably could have gotten a call (or a thrown chair) from Steve.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder why they included a link to IE 8 in the banner ?
Why not Opera or Safari instead ?
If nothing else , they probably could have gotten a call ( or a thrown chair ) from Steve .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder why they included a link to IE 8 in the banner?
Why not Opera or Safari instead?
If nothing else, they probably could have gotten a call (or a thrown chair) from Steve.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698019</id>
	<title>Re:Praise Jeebus!</title>
	<author>ko9</author>
	<datestamp>1247575140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What is needed is a good exorcism.  IE6 needs to be cast out from the net and its bloated carcass nailed to a tree as a lesson to others.</p></div><p>The last time society cast someone out and nailed him to bits of tree, it started one of the world's most popular religions.
Please, let's not make IE6 a martyr. We'll never be rid of it!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What is needed is a good exorcism .
IE6 needs to be cast out from the net and its bloated carcass nailed to a tree as a lesson to others.The last time society cast someone out and nailed him to bits of tree , it started one of the world 's most popular religions .
Please , let 's not make IE6 a martyr .
We 'll never be rid of it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is needed is a good exorcism.
IE6 needs to be cast out from the net and its bloated carcass nailed to a tree as a lesson to others.The last time society cast someone out and nailed him to bits of tree, it started one of the world's most popular religions.
Please, let's not make IE6 a martyr.
We'll never be rid of it!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695255</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696587</id>
	<title>Re:Last I checked, I couldn't upgrade</title>
	<author>binary paladin</author>
	<datestamp>1247567160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Firefox does though, so I fail to see the problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Firefox does though , so I fail to see the problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Firefox does though, so I fail to see the problem.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695417</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695275</id>
	<title>Re:Market share</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247605020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe they're getting a number of hits from web developers who are testing in IE6.</p><p>At least that's what I want to hope!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe they 're getting a number of hits from web developers who are testing in IE6.At least that 's what I want to hope !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe they're getting a number of hits from web developers who are testing in IE6.At least that's what I want to hope!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695235</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28701773</id>
	<title>Re:If you get rid of IE6, you will rid also Win2K</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247661660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>...because Mozilla is <b>not</b> always the answer.</p></div><p>Ooh, ooh, I know!  Is the question "Name a sucky, insecure browser that was difficult to code for because little attempt was made for it to follow standards as competitive policy of the company that wrote it?"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...because Mozilla is not always the answer.Ooh , ooh , I know !
Is the question " Name a sucky , insecure browser that was difficult to code for because little attempt was made for it to follow standards as competitive policy of the company that wrote it ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...because Mozilla is not always the answer.Ooh, ooh, I know!
Is the question "Name a sucky, insecure browser that was difficult to code for because little attempt was made for it to follow standards as competitive policy of the company that wrote it?
"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695959</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695299</id>
	<title>Support? What do you mean, support?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247605080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You don't need to "support" IE6.</p><p>Youtube is a website, with an embedded flash object, that plays a movie. Youtube doesn't even need javascript at all (if you know the urls to the embedded flash).</p><p>Plus, many businesses are are running windows 2000 (for application reasons), because Win2000 is stable, well-known &amp; well-documented, and still supported by Microsoft. Win2000 only has IE6 (and firefox).</p><p>Actually, that means business productivity will go up if youtube doesn't run on IE6. Go for it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't need to " support " IE6.Youtube is a website , with an embedded flash object , that plays a movie .
Youtube does n't even need javascript at all ( if you know the urls to the embedded flash ) .Plus , many businesses are are running windows 2000 ( for application reasons ) , because Win2000 is stable , well-known &amp; well-documented , and still supported by Microsoft .
Win2000 only has IE6 ( and firefox ) .Actually , that means business productivity will go up if youtube does n't run on IE6 .
Go for it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't need to "support" IE6.Youtube is a website, with an embedded flash object, that plays a movie.
Youtube doesn't even need javascript at all (if you know the urls to the embedded flash).Plus, many businesses are are running windows 2000 (for application reasons), because Win2000 is stable, well-known &amp; well-documented, and still supported by Microsoft.
Win2000 only has IE6 (and firefox).Actually, that means business productivity will go up if youtube doesn't run on IE6.
Go for it!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28699643</id>
	<title>Amazing how IE 6 is still used!</title>
	<author>motang</author>
	<datestamp>1247588400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't believe IE 6 is still being used after all these years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't believe IE 6 is still being used after all these years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't believe IE 6 is still being used after all these years.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698103</id>
	<title>Re:Support? What do you mean, support?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247575800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Many businesses still run Win2K, but Microsoft no longer supports it.  End of life for that product was announced three years ago.  It may be "stable, well-known &amp; well-documented" but Microsoft does not support it any longer and does not issue any new security updates for it.  If you still run Win2K Server, you'd better be using it for a honeypot, because it's probably already compromised and part of a botnet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Many businesses still run Win2K , but Microsoft no longer supports it .
End of life for that product was announced three years ago .
It may be " stable , well-known &amp; well-documented " but Microsoft does not support it any longer and does not issue any new security updates for it .
If you still run Win2K Server , you 'd better be using it for a honeypot , because it 's probably already compromised and part of a botnet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many businesses still run Win2K, but Microsoft no longer supports it.
End of life for that product was announced three years ago.
It may be "stable, well-known &amp; well-documented" but Microsoft does not support it any longer and does not issue any new security updates for it.
If you still run Win2K Server, you'd better be using it for a honeypot, because it's probably already compromised and part of a botnet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695299</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28707503</id>
	<title>Re:Except IE is the only one that works with YouTu</title>
	<author>Loopy1492</author>
	<datestamp>1247648460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I watch youtube in Firefox, Chrome, and Safari and they work fine.  I think some of you people just need to not be allowed to touch your computers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I watch youtube in Firefox , Chrome , and Safari and they work fine .
I think some of you people just need to not be allowed to touch your computers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I watch youtube in Firefox, Chrome, and Safari and they work fine.
I think some of you people just need to not be allowed to touch your computers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698995</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695785</id>
	<title>Re:Hello? IT Department?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247563980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then stop being a bitch, admit that you hired a shit-for-brains "developer" back in 2003, and have your app redone in in a more sane manner.  It's effing 2009, your browser has been otherwise dead and buried for YEARS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then stop being a bitch , admit that you hired a shit-for-brains " developer " back in 2003 , and have your app redone in in a more sane manner .
It 's effing 2009 , your browser has been otherwise dead and buried for YEARS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then stop being a bitch, admit that you hired a shit-for-brains "developer" back in 2003, and have your app redone in in a more sane manner.
It's effing 2009, your browser has been otherwise dead and buried for YEARS.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695303</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695771</id>
	<title>Re:Support? What do you mean, support?</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1247563920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly what I was going to say.  Provide a simple link to a video file and even lynx could view Youtube.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly what I was going to say .
Provide a simple link to a video file and even lynx could view Youtube .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly what I was going to say.
Provide a simple link to a video file and even lynx could view Youtube.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695299</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696717</id>
	<title>Re:About time</title>
	<author>derGoldstein</author>
	<datestamp>1247567760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Perhaps next, they can follow Slashdot's example and phase out support for web browsers.</p></div><p>

Slashdot supports web browsers? Since when!?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps next , they can follow Slashdot 's example and phase out support for web browsers .
Slashdot supports web browsers ?
Since when !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps next, they can follow Slashdot's example and phase out support for web browsers.
Slashdot supports web browsers?
Since when!
?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695499</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28703319</id>
	<title>Re:Praise Jeebus!</title>
	<author>numbski</author>
	<datestamp>1247671800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>More sites need to do this though.  Really.  Detect the user agent as IE6, and pop up an annoying message telling them to upgrade.  Or better - simply use modern css, refuse to fix the rendering errors in IE6, then put a message on the page telling them that this page will render in any browser made in the last 5 years.  IE6 was not.  Please upgrade.</p><p>Simple and effective - but everyone is too afraid of alienating the end user - even though you can instantly point them to stable and secure browser targets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>More sites need to do this though .
Really. Detect the user agent as IE6 , and pop up an annoying message telling them to upgrade .
Or better - simply use modern css , refuse to fix the rendering errors in IE6 , then put a message on the page telling them that this page will render in any browser made in the last 5 years .
IE6 was not .
Please upgrade.Simple and effective - but everyone is too afraid of alienating the end user - even though you can instantly point them to stable and secure browser targets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More sites need to do this though.
Really.  Detect the user agent as IE6, and pop up an annoying message telling them to upgrade.
Or better - simply use modern css, refuse to fix the rendering errors in IE6, then put a message on the page telling them that this page will render in any browser made in the last 5 years.
IE6 was not.
Please upgrade.Simple and effective - but everyone is too afraid of alienating the end user - even though you can instantly point them to stable and secure browser targets.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695255</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695725</id>
	<title>Re:Slight problem...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247563680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>99\% of said companies need to revise their incredibly stupid, lazy IT policies, and hire some professionals who know how to keep their computers secure and roll out new software as necessary. Except perhaps for that leftover 1\% with bizarre requirements, they have absolutely no reason to be running software that is eight years old and two major versions out of date. Insert Debian joke here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>99 \ % of said companies need to revise their incredibly stupid , lazy IT policies , and hire some professionals who know how to keep their computers secure and roll out new software as necessary .
Except perhaps for that leftover 1 \ % with bizarre requirements , they have absolutely no reason to be running software that is eight years old and two major versions out of date .
Insert Debian joke here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>99\% of said companies need to revise their incredibly stupid, lazy IT policies, and hire some professionals who know how to keep their computers secure and roll out new software as necessary.
Except perhaps for that leftover 1\% with bizarre requirements, they have absolutely no reason to be running software that is eight years old and two major versions out of date.
Insert Debian joke here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695711</id>
	<title>For Fuck's sake!!!</title>
	<author>Ractive</author>
	<datestamp>1247563620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><strong>Die already IE6! </strong><p>Not that MS's newer browsers are much better in standards compliance but definitely IE6 = Developers Hell. </p><p>But the real problem is that many developers ignorant of the importance of standards as well as ignorant users (and of course MS itself) did a lot of damage creating and supporting IE (6) only sites, and many years later we are still facing the consequences of such poorly designed products, that's a heads up for future browser development <a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/07/02/184251" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">this has to stop </a> [slashdot.org] </p><p> Interoperability is a must!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Die already IE6 !
Not that MS 's newer browsers are much better in standards compliance but definitely IE6 = Developers Hell .
But the real problem is that many developers ignorant of the importance of standards as well as ignorant users ( and of course MS itself ) did a lot of damage creating and supporting IE ( 6 ) only sites , and many years later we are still facing the consequences of such poorly designed products , that 's a heads up for future browser development this has to stop [ slashdot.org ] Interoperability is a must !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Die already IE6!
Not that MS's newer browsers are much better in standards compliance but definitely IE6 = Developers Hell.
But the real problem is that many developers ignorant of the importance of standards as well as ignorant users (and of course MS itself) did a lot of damage creating and supporting IE (6) only sites, and many years later we are still facing the consequences of such poorly designed products, that's a heads up for future browser development this has to stop  [slashdot.org]  Interoperability is a must!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28700837</id>
	<title>I am a single digit ...</title>
	<author>JustLikeToSay</author>
	<datestamp>1247689320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... because I work for a UK Govt Dept and we still use IE6.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... because I work for a UK Govt Dept and we still use IE6 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... because I work for a UK Govt Dept and we still use IE6.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695393</id>
	<title>Easy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247562300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>[Insert generic anti-MS comment here.]</p><p>Discussion complete.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>[ Insert generic anti-MS comment here .
] Discussion complete .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[Insert generic anti-MS comment here.
]Discussion complete.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695509</id>
	<title>Re:Last I checked, I couldn't upgrade</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247562780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Then go to portableapps.com and run Firefox off your desktop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then go to portableapps.com and run Firefox off your desktop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then go to portableapps.com and run Firefox off your desktop.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695417</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696193</id>
	<title>Re:Praise Jeebus!</title>
	<author>NewbieProgrammerMan</author>
	<datestamp>1247565480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh noes!  Just think of all the government and corporate workers that will no longer be able to watch YouTube after the phase-out.  I bet those organizations will see a drop-off in their network traffic when the switch is thrown.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh noes !
Just think of all the government and corporate workers that will no longer be able to watch YouTube after the phase-out .
I bet those organizations will see a drop-off in their network traffic when the switch is thrown .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh noes!
Just think of all the government and corporate workers that will no longer be able to watch YouTube after the phase-out.
I bet those organizations will see a drop-off in their network traffic when the switch is thrown.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695455</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695411</id>
	<title>As a web developer....</title>
	<author>Tteddo</author>
	<datestamp>1247562420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I must say:<br>
Thank you jesus, thank you lord!<br>
And I ran 20 red lights in his honor!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I must say : Thank you jesus , thank you lord !
And I ran 20 red lights in his honor !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I must say:
Thank you jesus, thank you lord!
And I ran 20 red lights in his honor!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696043</id>
	<title>Re:Last I checked, I couldn't upgrade</title>
	<author>mike260</author>
	<datestamp>1247564880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then YouTube is doing you a favour. Expect an upgrade around the time that YouTube stops working and your entire company simultaneously calls tech support.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then YouTube is doing you a favour .
Expect an upgrade around the time that YouTube stops working and your entire company simultaneously calls tech support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then YouTube is doing you a favour.
Expect an upgrade around the time that YouTube stops working and your entire company simultaneously calls tech support.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695417</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698995</id>
	<title>Except IE is the only one that works with YouTube</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1247582880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I *do* use a modern browser - except as of a certain version, the Flash plug-in crashes, taking out my browser. So if I want to view a YouTube video, I have to fire up IE 6, as it's the only one that it works in.</p><p>Now YouTube have the cheek to tell me to use a "modern browser", when they're the one using a proprietary format that doesn't work in my modern browser!</p><p>Perhaps IE 8 will work with YouTube, I don't know, but I fail to see why I should have to upgrade to Microsoft's latest just because YouTube and Adobe can't get their act together.</p><p>People crying "about time" are missing the point. In my opinion, it's phasing out Flash that would be "about time".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I * do * use a modern browser - except as of a certain version , the Flash plug-in crashes , taking out my browser .
So if I want to view a YouTube video , I have to fire up IE 6 , as it 's the only one that it works in.Now YouTube have the cheek to tell me to use a " modern browser " , when they 're the one using a proprietary format that does n't work in my modern browser ! Perhaps IE 8 will work with YouTube , I do n't know , but I fail to see why I should have to upgrade to Microsoft 's latest just because YouTube and Adobe ca n't get their act together.People crying " about time " are missing the point .
In my opinion , it 's phasing out Flash that would be " about time " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I *do* use a modern browser - except as of a certain version, the Flash plug-in crashes, taking out my browser.
So if I want to view a YouTube video, I have to fire up IE 6, as it's the only one that it works in.Now YouTube have the cheek to tell me to use a "modern browser", when they're the one using a proprietary format that doesn't work in my modern browser!Perhaps IE 8 will work with YouTube, I don't know, but I fail to see why I should have to upgrade to Microsoft's latest just because YouTube and Adobe can't get their act together.People crying "about time" are missing the point.
In my opinion, it's phasing out Flash that would be "about time".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695213</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28697125</id>
	<title>Re:If you get rid of IE6, you will rid also Win2K</title>
	<author>mike260</author>
	<datestamp>1247569740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You refuse to use XP, Vista, Linux, Opera <i>and</i> Firefox, but IE6 is peachy-keen?<br>Lol.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You refuse to use XP , Vista , Linux , Opera and Firefox , but IE6 is peachy-keen ? Lol .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You refuse to use XP, Vista, Linux, Opera and Firefox, but IE6 is peachy-keen?Lol.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695959</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695967</id>
	<title>July 13, 2010 is D-Day for IE6</title>
	<author>techvet</author>
	<datestamp>1247564640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>July 13, 2010 is when Microsoft stops releasing security updates for Win2000/IE6.  By the time that dates arrives or when the first unfixed issue appears after that, a lot of companies who were sand-bagging the upgrades will suddenly get their "Come to Jesus" moment and will do the upgrades.</p><p>If they are smart, they will skip IE7 and go straight to IE8.  I agree with the previous poster, as the same companies sitting on IE6 are also the same ones blocking YouTube and the like.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>July 13 , 2010 is when Microsoft stops releasing security updates for Win2000/IE6 .
By the time that dates arrives or when the first unfixed issue appears after that , a lot of companies who were sand-bagging the upgrades will suddenly get their " Come to Jesus " moment and will do the upgrades.If they are smart , they will skip IE7 and go straight to IE8 .
I agree with the previous poster , as the same companies sitting on IE6 are also the same ones blocking YouTube and the like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>July 13, 2010 is when Microsoft stops releasing security updates for Win2000/IE6.
By the time that dates arrives or when the first unfixed issue appears after that, a lot of companies who were sand-bagging the upgrades will suddenly get their "Come to Jesus" moment and will do the upgrades.If they are smart, they will skip IE7 and go straight to IE8.
I agree with the previous poster, as the same companies sitting on IE6 are also the same ones blocking YouTube and the like.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28697533</id>
	<title>Re:Still mandatory where I work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247571720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Consider using different browsers for different applications. It's safer anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Consider using different browsers for different applications .
It 's safer anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Consider using different browsers for different applications.
It's safer anyway.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695533</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695767</id>
	<title>Re:no need of restrictions then</title>
	<author>Mystra\_x64</author>
	<datestamp>1247563920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Their problems really. They can happily live in their own little utopia for a time until the future strikes them with a hammer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Their problems really .
They can happily live in their own little utopia for a time until the future strikes them with a hammer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Their problems really.
They can happily live in their own little utopia for a time until the future strikes them with a hammer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695425</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695869</id>
	<title>Doesn't bother me.</title>
	<author>Cro Magnon</author>
	<datestamp>1247564280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>AFAIK, the only people who use IE6 (including me) do so because their job uses it.  Very few jobs (including mine) allow Youtubing at work anyway, so why SHOULD they continue to support it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>AFAIK , the only people who use IE6 ( including me ) do so because their job uses it .
Very few jobs ( including mine ) allow Youtubing at work anyway , so why SHOULD they continue to support it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AFAIK, the only people who use IE6 (including me) do so because their job uses it.
Very few jobs (including mine) allow Youtubing at work anyway, so why SHOULD they continue to support it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696007</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247564760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did i sell my old car to you? If so i'm sorry. Just so you know, the radiator is also busted, so is the thermostat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did i sell my old car to you ?
If so i 'm sorry .
Just so you know , the radiator is also busted , so is the thermostat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did i sell my old car to you?
If so i'm sorry.
Just so you know, the radiator is also busted, so is the thermostat.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695437</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28702111</id>
	<title>Re:BRAVO. Earns my respect double on this...</title>
	<author>nyctopterus</author>
	<datestamp>1247665020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>  I think we know that if this was say, Bing! or Hotmail, it would show a link to IE8 but that's it.   Well, ok, we don't KNOW that, but most of us assume it.  I certainly do.</p></div><p>... and indeed, you're wrong. Hotmail provides links to Safari and Firefox.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think we know that if this was say , Bing !
or Hotmail , it would show a link to IE8 but that 's it .
Well , ok , we do n't KNOW that , but most of us assume it .
I certainly do.... and indeed , you 're wrong .
Hotmail provides links to Safari and Firefox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  I think we know that if this was say, Bing!
or Hotmail, it would show a link to IE8 but that's it.
Well, ok, we don't KNOW that, but most of us assume it.
I certainly do.... and indeed, you're wrong.
Hotmail provides links to Safari and Firefox.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695585</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695585</id>
	<title>BRAVO.  Earns my respect double on this...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247563140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First, actions like this from massively broad based sites are critical to finally wiping the scourge of IE6 development off the planet.  So initial Kudos to YouTube for taking the step.</p><p>Of course, YouTube == Google; so no shock that they're willing to disparage IE6, right?</p><p>But here's the difference between Google and Microsoft --</p><p>The banner shown here, on YouTube (owned by Google) doesn't JUST list Chrome as the upgrade path.  It clearly gives equal exposure to Chrome, Firefox, and IE8 -- the biggest competing product to its own browser.</p><p>That's the right way to do be competitive in a social networking context.  I think we know that if this was say, Bing! or Hotmail, it would show a link to IE8 but that's it.   Well, ok, we don't KNOW that, but most of us assume it.  I certainly do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First , actions like this from massively broad based sites are critical to finally wiping the scourge of IE6 development off the planet .
So initial Kudos to YouTube for taking the step.Of course , YouTube = = Google ; so no shock that they 're willing to disparage IE6 , right ? But here 's the difference between Google and Microsoft --The banner shown here , on YouTube ( owned by Google ) does n't JUST list Chrome as the upgrade path .
It clearly gives equal exposure to Chrome , Firefox , and IE8 -- the biggest competing product to its own browser.That 's the right way to do be competitive in a social networking context .
I think we know that if this was say , Bing !
or Hotmail , it would show a link to IE8 but that 's it .
Well , ok , we do n't KNOW that , but most of us assume it .
I certainly do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First, actions like this from massively broad based sites are critical to finally wiping the scourge of IE6 development off the planet.
So initial Kudos to YouTube for taking the step.Of course, YouTube == Google; so no shock that they're willing to disparage IE6, right?But here's the difference between Google and Microsoft --The banner shown here, on YouTube (owned by Google) doesn't JUST list Chrome as the upgrade path.
It clearly gives equal exposure to Chrome, Firefox, and IE8 -- the biggest competing product to its own browser.That's the right way to do be competitive in a social networking context.
I think we know that if this was say, Bing!
or Hotmail, it would show a link to IE8 but that's it.
Well, ok, we don't KNOW that, but most of us assume it.
I certainly do.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696247</id>
	<title>Re:no need of restrictions then</title>
	<author>Grishnakh</author>
	<datestamp>1247565660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At my company, quite a few people still run ancient computers with W2K because the IT department is too cheap to upgrade.</p><p>However, they apparently have no problem paying for and running some proxy software which prevents us from browsing to various sites, including Facebook, Youtube, The Onion, etc.  (Apparently The Onion is considered "obscene".)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At my company , quite a few people still run ancient computers with W2K because the IT department is too cheap to upgrade.However , they apparently have no problem paying for and running some proxy software which prevents us from browsing to various sites , including Facebook , Youtube , The Onion , etc .
( Apparently The Onion is considered " obscene " .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At my company, quite a few people still run ancient computers with W2K because the IT department is too cheap to upgrade.However, they apparently have no problem paying for and running some proxy software which prevents us from browsing to various sites, including Facebook, Youtube, The Onion, etc.
(Apparently The Onion is considered "obscene".
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695425</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695685</id>
	<title>Okay I'll do it!</title>
	<author>nilbog</author>
	<datestamp>1247563500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I saw this message today an decided to upgrade my browser.  That's the internet, right?  I called AOL and told them to upgrade my internet please.  They happily obliged.  It seems like the same internet to me and I still get the message on youtube.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I saw this message today an decided to upgrade my browser .
That 's the internet , right ?
I called AOL and told them to upgrade my internet please .
They happily obliged .
It seems like the same internet to me and I still get the message on youtube .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I saw this message today an decided to upgrade my browser.
That's the internet, right?
I called AOL and told them to upgrade my internet please.
They happily obliged.
It seems like the same internet to me and I still get the message on youtube.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696709</id>
	<title>Re:If you get rid of IE6, you will rid also Win2K</title>
	<author>jimjamjoh</author>
	<datestamp>1247567700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mozilla IS always the answer when the question is "What actively-developed Web 2.0-capable browser can I use on my Win2k box?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mozilla IS always the answer when the question is " What actively-developed Web 2.0-capable browser can I use on my Win2k box ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mozilla IS always the answer when the question is "What actively-developed Web 2.0-capable browser can I use on my Win2k box?
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695959</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695379</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>amicusNYCL</author>
	<datestamp>1247562180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>IE6 was a decent browser, aside from the fact it was a pain to code for and insecure.</p></div><p>Huh?  So aside from arguably two of the most important pieces of a browser, it was a decent browser?  Are you just talking about the sparse UI?  A UI doesn't make otherwise shitty software somehow good (and, if you want to talk about IE's user interface, make sure to mention the giant checkbox list under Internet Options).  IE7 was an incremental improvement over IE6, and IE8 was a major improvement over both versions.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>IE6 was a decent browser , aside from the fact it was a pain to code for and insecure.Huh ?
So aside from arguably two of the most important pieces of a browser , it was a decent browser ?
Are you just talking about the sparse UI ?
A UI does n't make otherwise shitty software somehow good ( and , if you want to talk about IE 's user interface , make sure to mention the giant checkbox list under Internet Options ) .
IE7 was an incremental improvement over IE6 , and IE8 was a major improvement over both versions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IE6 was a decent browser, aside from the fact it was a pain to code for and insecure.Huh?
So aside from arguably two of the most important pieces of a browser, it was a decent browser?
Are you just talking about the sparse UI?
A UI doesn't make otherwise shitty software somehow good (and, if you want to talk about IE's user interface, make sure to mention the giant checkbox list under Internet Options).
IE7 was an incremental improvement over IE6, and IE8 was a major improvement over both versions.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28699141</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>asdfndsagse</author>
	<datestamp>1247584140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>IE8 is your your new car. It runs smooth, and there are no real complaints about the reliability. The seats are little on the hard side, and you'd like more leg room.</p></div><p>What cool-aid are you smoking? With no support for canvas, video, audo; slow javascript; horrible security, privacy; and completely ineptitude still for standards--epic fail for acid3; IE8 was obsolete before it was ever released.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>IE8 is your your new car .
It runs smooth , and there are no real complaints about the reliability .
The seats are little on the hard side , and you 'd like more leg room.What cool-aid are you smoking ?
With no support for canvas , video , audo ; slow javascript ; horrible security , privacy ; and completely ineptitude still for standards--epic fail for acid3 ; IE8 was obsolete before it was ever released .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IE8 is your your new car.
It runs smooth, and there are no real complaints about the reliability.
The seats are little on the hard side, and you'd like more leg room.What cool-aid are you smoking?
With no support for canvas, video, audo; slow javascript; horrible security, privacy; and completely ineptitude still for standards--epic fail for acid3; IE8 was obsolete before it was ever released.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695437</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695455</id>
	<title>Re:Praise Jeebus!</title>
	<author>Brian Gordon</author>
	<datestamp>1247562540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>At work I have to use IE on Windows 2000. Don't phase me out please!</htmltext>
<tokenext>At work I have to use IE on Windows 2000 .
Do n't phase me out please !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At work I have to use IE on Windows 2000.
Don't phase me out please!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695255</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696995</id>
	<title>Re:I *WISH* it was down in the single digits</title>
	<author>KrackerJax</author>
	<datestamp>1247569200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is absolutely true -- I work for a pretty large web development shop, and over 30\% of our client browsers are IE6. The corporate world just can't lay out the money to upgrade their customized browsers, rework intranet sites, etc. </p><p>Our management has decided to support IE6 for another year at least -- there is just no way we could justify losing 30\% of our client base, no matter how many hoops we must jump through to get our client side working in IE 6/7/8, FF2/3/3.5 etc. The legacy of IE6 will remain with us for quite some time I'm afraid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is absolutely true -- I work for a pretty large web development shop , and over 30 \ % of our client browsers are IE6 .
The corporate world just ca n't lay out the money to upgrade their customized browsers , rework intranet sites , etc .
Our management has decided to support IE6 for another year at least -- there is just no way we could justify losing 30 \ % of our client base , no matter how many hoops we must jump through to get our client side working in IE 6/7/8 , FF2/3/3.5 etc .
The legacy of IE6 will remain with us for quite some time I 'm afraid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is absolutely true -- I work for a pretty large web development shop, and over 30\% of our client browsers are IE6.
The corporate world just can't lay out the money to upgrade their customized browsers, rework intranet sites, etc.
Our management has decided to support IE6 for another year at least -- there is just no way we could justify losing 30\% of our client base, no matter how many hoops we must jump through to get our client side working in IE 6/7/8, FF2/3/3.5 etc.
The legacy of IE6 will remain with us for quite some time I'm afraid.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695267</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28700227</id>
	<title>Re:Hello? IT Department?</title>
	<author>Stan Vassilev</author>
	<datestamp>1247594100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is why smart web developers use tables.</p></div><p>Care to elaborate<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is why smart web developers use tables.Care to elaborate : ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is why smart web developers use tables.Care to elaborate :)?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695359</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695625</id>
	<title>Re:Great but</title>
	<author>Mystra\_x64</author>
	<datestamp>1247563320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Link there somewhere shows image with IE8/Chrome/FF3.5.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Link there somewhere shows image with IE8/Chrome/FF3.5 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Link there somewhere shows image with IE8/Chrome/FF3.5.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695277</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695533</id>
	<title>Re:Still mandatory where I work</title>
	<author>afidel</author>
	<datestamp>1247562900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>We're a midsized business and until we upgrade our ERP system next year we can't migrate off IE6 so I can only imagine how bad it is for shops with tons of custom code. The version of our ECM system that we are currently testing supports IE7 and Firefox with only partial functionality, no IE8. That means we can upgrade to IE7 once we upgrade our ERP system but we will be on IE7 until mid 2012 at least since our systems are on a 3 year rotation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We 're a midsized business and until we upgrade our ERP system next year we ca n't migrate off IE6 so I can only imagine how bad it is for shops with tons of custom code .
The version of our ECM system that we are currently testing supports IE7 and Firefox with only partial functionality , no IE8 .
That means we can upgrade to IE7 once we upgrade our ERP system but we will be on IE7 until mid 2012 at least since our systems are on a 3 year rotation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We're a midsized business and until we upgrade our ERP system next year we can't migrate off IE6 so I can only imagine how bad it is for shops with tons of custom code.
The version of our ECM system that we are currently testing supports IE7 and Firefox with only partial functionality, no IE8.
That means we can upgrade to IE7 once we upgrade our ERP system but we will be on IE7 until mid 2012 at least since our systems are on a 3 year rotation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695371</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28702019</id>
	<title>IE7 and up issues</title>
	<author>GrBear</author>
	<datestamp>1247664240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Two reasons why we haven't upgraded to IE 7/8 at our offices.</p><p>a) Everyone has Firefox as their primary web browser and<br>b) IE7 breaks Office 2000.</p><p>There's been no economical reason to upgrade past Office 2000 so far, and IE 7 causes our Access 2000 databases to no longer open.  There are other other issues as well, but this one seems to be the greatest.</p><p>Why the hell an OS is built so unstable that upgrading a web browser can cause other applications to stop working is retarded.. especially when the OS and both apps are by the same vendor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Two reasons why we have n't upgraded to IE 7/8 at our offices.a ) Everyone has Firefox as their primary web browser andb ) IE7 breaks Office 2000.There 's been no economical reason to upgrade past Office 2000 so far , and IE 7 causes our Access 2000 databases to no longer open .
There are other other issues as well , but this one seems to be the greatest.Why the hell an OS is built so unstable that upgrading a web browser can cause other applications to stop working is retarded.. especially when the OS and both apps are by the same vendor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two reasons why we haven't upgraded to IE 7/8 at our offices.a) Everyone has Firefox as their primary web browser andb) IE7 breaks Office 2000.There's been no economical reason to upgrade past Office 2000 so far, and IE 7 causes our Access 2000 databases to no longer open.
There are other other issues as well, but this one seems to be the greatest.Why the hell an OS is built so unstable that upgrading a web browser can cause other applications to stop working is retarded.. especially when the OS and both apps are by the same vendor.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695417</id>
	<title>Last I checked, I couldn't upgrade</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247562420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IE7 doesn't run on Windows 2000.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IE7 does n't run on Windows 2000 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IE7 doesn't run on Windows 2000.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695235</id>
	<title>Market share</title>
	<author>amicusNYCL</author>
	<datestamp>1247604840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The market share for IE6 is now well down in the single digits.</p></div><p>According to whom?  Even on <a href="http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers\_stats.asp" title="w3schools.com">w3schools.com</a> [w3schools.com], which is visited almost exclusively by web developers, more than 14\% of people are still using IE6.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The market share for IE6 is now well down in the single digits.According to whom ?
Even on w3schools.com [ w3schools.com ] , which is visited almost exclusively by web developers , more than 14 \ % of people are still using IE6 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The market share for IE6 is now well down in the single digits.According to whom?
Even on w3schools.com [w3schools.com], which is visited almost exclusively by web developers, more than 14\% of people are still using IE6.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698987</id>
	<title>IE and malware</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247582880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After IE managed to dump and install literaly hunderds of malware files in the span of a minute onto my Windows box a couple years back, Ive used Firefox exclusively at home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After IE managed to dump and install literaly hunderds of malware files in the span of a minute onto my Windows box a couple years back , Ive used Firefox exclusively at home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After IE managed to dump and install literaly hunderds of malware files in the span of a minute onto my Windows box a couple years back, Ive used Firefox exclusively at home.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695883</id>
	<title>They don't support firefox fully either.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247564340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Go to the user page that has been upgraded to "the new design" and click the javascript-link called: "comments". It is placed just below the video. That link doesn't work in firefox.

Example:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/youtube" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/youtube</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Go to the user page that has been upgraded to " the new design " and click the javascript-link called : " comments " .
It is placed just below the video .
That link does n't work in firefox .
Example : http : //www.youtube.com/user/youtube [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go to the user page that has been upgraded to "the new design" and click the javascript-link called: "comments".
It is placed just below the video.
That link doesn't work in firefox.
Example:
http://www.youtube.com/user/youtube [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28702083</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>Hal\_Porter</author>
	<datestamp>1247664720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What cool-aid are you smoking?</p></div><p>I think you mean "What cool aid are you drinking", a reference to the Jonestown cult mass suicide =</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim\_Jones#Deaths\_in\_Jonestown" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim\_Jones#Deaths\_in\_Jonestown</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Or maybe "What are you smoking?", a reference to irrational behaviour brought on by smoking crack cocaine.</p><p>Still I'm going to have to fine you $150 for using a mixed metaphor. Type carefully in future.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What cool-aid are you smoking ? I think you mean " What cool aid are you drinking " , a reference to the Jonestown cult mass suicide = http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim \ _Jones # Deaths \ _in \ _Jonestown [ wikipedia.org ] Or maybe " What are you smoking ?
" , a reference to irrational behaviour brought on by smoking crack cocaine.Still I 'm going to have to fine you $ 150 for using a mixed metaphor .
Type carefully in future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What cool-aid are you smoking?I think you mean "What cool aid are you drinking", a reference to the Jonestown cult mass suicide =http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim\_Jones#Deaths\_in\_Jonestown [wikipedia.org]Or maybe "What are you smoking?
", a reference to irrational behaviour brought on by smoking crack cocaine.Still I'm going to have to fine you $150 for using a mixed metaphor.
Type carefully in future.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28699141</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695383</id>
	<title>Re:Market share</title>
	<author>frodo from middle ea</author>
	<datestamp>1247562240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A lot of those could be merely the hits to their validation services, used by web developers, just to test validity with different browsers, IE6 being one of them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A lot of those could be merely the hits to their validation services , used by web developers , just to test validity with different browsers , IE6 being one of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lot of those could be merely the hits to their validation services, used by web developers, just to test validity with different browsers, IE6 being one of them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695235</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28701631</id>
	<title>Re:About time</title>
	<author>soliptic</author>
	<datestamp>1247660040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not sure what's behind all these complaints about slashdot lately, because I haven't seen anything untoward.  But I'm still on firefox 2.0.20 here, rather than letting it auto-upgrade me to 3.x - which was frankly rather difficult (far more than it should have been).  It took registry edits and all sorts to stop the upgrade, so why slashdot would make things work for browsers that next-to-nobody would use and not work for the versions everybody is on these days, is baffling.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure what 's behind all these complaints about slashdot lately , because I have n't seen anything untoward .
But I 'm still on firefox 2.0.20 here , rather than letting it auto-upgrade me to 3.x - which was frankly rather difficult ( far more than it should have been ) .
It took registry edits and all sorts to stop the upgrade , so why slashdot would make things work for browsers that next-to-nobody would use and not work for the versions everybody is on these days , is baffling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure what's behind all these complaints about slashdot lately, because I haven't seen anything untoward.
But I'm still on firefox 2.0.20 here, rather than letting it auto-upgrade me to 3.x - which was frankly rather difficult (far more than it should have been).
It took registry edits and all sorts to stop the upgrade, so why slashdot would make things work for browsers that next-to-nobody would use and not work for the versions everybody is on these days, is baffling.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28699053</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695427</id>
	<title>That's a bit sensationalist</title>
	<author>east coast</author>
	<datestamp>1247562420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>This Twitter search reflects the jubilation breaking out all over the Net </i> <br> <br>Yeah, there's a virtual kegger going on over at Twitter about this. Is that going to be our new gauge of how things are going on in the computing world? Has netcraft confirmed it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>This Twitter search reflects the jubilation breaking out all over the Net Yeah , there 's a virtual kegger going on over at Twitter about this .
Is that going to be our new gauge of how things are going on in the computing world ?
Has netcraft confirmed it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This Twitter search reflects the jubilation breaking out all over the Net   Yeah, there's a virtual kegger going on over at Twitter about this.
Is that going to be our new gauge of how things are going on in the computing world?
Has netcraft confirmed it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695959</id>
	<title>If you get rid of IE6, you will rid also  Win2K</title>
	<author>Pepebuho</author>
	<datestamp>1247564580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you get rid of IE6 like this, you are forcing people to upgrade also to Win7!!! Remember, there is no Internet Explorer 7 for Win2k, All of us who have stayed away from Win XP and and Vista due to its dumb activation code will have to upgrade to Win7, because Mozilla is not always the answer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you get rid of IE6 like this , you are forcing people to upgrade also to Win7 ! ! !
Remember , there is no Internet Explorer 7 for Win2k , All of us who have stayed away from Win XP and and Vista due to its dumb activation code will have to upgrade to Win7 , because Mozilla is not always the answer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you get rid of IE6 like this, you are forcing people to upgrade also to Win7!!!
Remember, there is no Internet Explorer 7 for Win2k, All of us who have stayed away from Win XP and and Vista due to its dumb activation code will have to upgrade to Win7, because Mozilla is not always the answer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696645</id>
	<title>Uh..</title>
	<author>SaDan</author>
	<datestamp>1247567400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Don't phase me, bro!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Do n't phase me , bro !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Don't phase me, bro!
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695455</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28697361</id>
	<title>Re:Praise Jeebus!</title>
	<author>Roman Mamedov</author>
	<datestamp>1247570940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>At work I have to use IE on Windows 2000. Don't phase me out please!</p></div></blockquote><p>
No, they will just move you to the basement and take away your red stapler.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>At work I have to use IE on Windows 2000 .
Do n't phase me out please !
No , they will just move you to the basement and take away your red stapler .
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At work I have to use IE on Windows 2000.
Don't phase me out please!
No, they will just move you to the basement and take away your red stapler.
:P
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695455</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28701901</id>
	<title>Re:Web 3.0</title>
	<author>datapharmer</author>
	<datestamp>1247663040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So that's what Vista's transparency was all about. No one told me I was supposed to put the browsers on *top* of each other! Now where did I put my red and blue glasses...</htmltext>
<tokenext>So that 's what Vista 's transparency was all about .
No one told me I was supposed to put the browsers on * top * of each other !
Now where did I put my red and blue glasses.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So that's what Vista's transparency was all about.
No one told me I was supposed to put the browsers on *top* of each other!
Now where did I put my red and blue glasses...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696509</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695505</id>
	<title>Re:Still mandatory where I work</title>
	<author>lenkyl</author>
	<datestamp>1247562780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>kind of a catch 22 there.  can't upgrade the browser cause all the apps are coded for ie6.  can't upgrade the code cause everyone's required to have ie6.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>kind of a catch 22 there .
ca n't upgrade the browser cause all the apps are coded for ie6 .
ca n't upgrade the code cause everyone 's required to have ie6 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>kind of a catch 22 there.
can't upgrade the browser cause all the apps are coded for ie6.
can't upgrade the code cause everyone's required to have ie6.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695371</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696589</id>
	<title>Some corrections to that list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247567160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The ActiveX has been solved, it now essentially does the same thing as plugins do in Firefox and is just as (in)secure.<br>Non-standard HTML rendering: other browser do that to (the rounded corners for example weren't part of the standard when introduced) - the problem wasn't that it was non-standard, the problem was that it was buggy, and that it used a different box model than everyone else was using.<br>My current browser (Iron) has tabs, as had Firefox, and they're a pain in the ass.<br>Bad PNG support was annoying, but just an inconvenience. By the way even modern browsers tend to have a much more annoying lack of (complete) support for SVG, MathML, Postscript, and so on and so forth.<br>The crashing problem was mostly fixed. At the end of its lifetime the only site it crashed on I found in a long time was... wait for it... Slashdot! Of course, no browser renders Slashdot okay, but IE6 reliably crashed just because the window wasn't wide enough...<br>Oh, and the ActiveX problem has been fixed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The ActiveX has been solved , it now essentially does the same thing as plugins do in Firefox and is just as ( in ) secure.Non-standard HTML rendering : other browser do that to ( the rounded corners for example were n't part of the standard when introduced ) - the problem was n't that it was non-standard , the problem was that it was buggy , and that it used a different box model than everyone else was using.My current browser ( Iron ) has tabs , as had Firefox , and they 're a pain in the ass.Bad PNG support was annoying , but just an inconvenience .
By the way even modern browsers tend to have a much more annoying lack of ( complete ) support for SVG , MathML , Postscript , and so on and so forth.The crashing problem was mostly fixed .
At the end of its lifetime the only site it crashed on I found in a long time was... wait for it... Slashdot ! Of course , no browser renders Slashdot okay , but IE6 reliably crashed just because the window was n't wide enough...Oh , and the ActiveX problem has been fixed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The ActiveX has been solved, it now essentially does the same thing as plugins do in Firefox and is just as (in)secure.Non-standard HTML rendering: other browser do that to (the rounded corners for example weren't part of the standard when introduced) - the problem wasn't that it was non-standard, the problem was that it was buggy, and that it used a different box model than everyone else was using.My current browser (Iron) has tabs, as had Firefox, and they're a pain in the ass.Bad PNG support was annoying, but just an inconvenience.
By the way even modern browsers tend to have a much more annoying lack of (complete) support for SVG, MathML, Postscript, and so on and so forth.The crashing problem was mostly fixed.
At the end of its lifetime the only site it crashed on I found in a long time was... wait for it... Slashdot! Of course, no browser renders Slashdot okay, but IE6 reliably crashed just because the window wasn't wide enough...Oh, and the ActiveX problem has been fixed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695351</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695277</id>
	<title>Great but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247605020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sure if youtube's previous banner is any indication, it will be telling them all to migrate to Chrome</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure if youtube 's previous banner is any indication , it will be telling them all to migrate to Chrome</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure if youtube's previous banner is any indication, it will be telling them all to migrate to Chrome</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695571</id>
	<title>Re:Last I checked, I couldn't upgrade</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247563080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i have the same issue</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i have the same issue</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i have the same issue</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695417</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695879</id>
	<title>Re:Why even support a browser?</title>
	<author>Daniel\_Staal</author>
	<datestamp>1247564340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because at one point IE 6 had over 70\% of the browser market share, and it <em>doesn't</em> support the official HTML standard.  So you either had to ignore 70+\% of the people on the net, or you had to code to support it.  Neither was a good choice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because at one point IE 6 had over 70 \ % of the browser market share , and it does n't support the official HTML standard .
So you either had to ignore 70 + \ % of the people on the net , or you had to code to support it .
Neither was a good choice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because at one point IE 6 had over 70\% of the browser market share, and it doesn't support the official HTML standard.
So you either had to ignore 70+\% of the people on the net, or you had to code to support it.
Neither was a good choice.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695507</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695763</id>
	<title>Re:I *WISH* it was down in the single digits</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247563860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Browsing youtube was not allowed at many of those places.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Browsing youtube was not allowed at many of those places .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Browsing youtube was not allowed at many of those places.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695267</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695351</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247562120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can think of a few things that make IE6 (not exclusively, but still) a horrible browser:
<br> <br>
ActiveX<br>
Non-standard HTML rendering<br>
Lack of tabs<br>
ActiveX<br>
Lack of support for many standard files (PNG, anyone?)<br>
Crashing when fed simple code<br>
Oh, and ActiveX.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can think of a few things that make IE6 ( not exclusively , but still ) a horrible browser : ActiveX Non-standard HTML rendering Lack of tabs ActiveX Lack of support for many standard files ( PNG , anyone ?
) Crashing when fed simple code Oh , and ActiveX .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can think of a few things that make IE6 (not exclusively, but still) a horrible browser:
 
ActiveX
Non-standard HTML rendering
Lack of tabs
ActiveX
Lack of support for many standard files (PNG, anyone?
)
Crashing when fed simple code
Oh, and ActiveX.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28704653</id>
	<title>Re:no need of restrictions then</title>
	<author>Just Some Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1247679120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>wouldnt enterprises prefer to keep IE6 as it would automatically prevent employees from accessing video/social networking sites from work</p></div><p>It also prevents the bosses from doing the same, and that just won't fly.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>wouldnt enterprises prefer to keep IE6 as it would automatically prevent employees from accessing video/social networking sites from workIt also prevents the bosses from doing the same , and that just wo n't fly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wouldnt enterprises prefer to keep IE6 as it would automatically prevent employees from accessing video/social networking sites from workIt also prevents the bosses from doing the same, and that just won't fly.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695425</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28697075</id>
	<title>Re:If you get rid of IE6, you will rid also Win2K</title>
	<author>RichM</author>
	<datestamp>1247569560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Doesn't Opera 9 work on Windows 2000?<br>
Yes, yes it <a href="http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/386/" title="opera.com">does</a> [opera.com].<br>
Even Windows 95.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't Opera 9 work on Windows 2000 ?
Yes , yes it does [ opera.com ] .
Even Windows 95 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't Opera 9 work on Windows 2000?
Yes, yes it does [opera.com].
Even Windows 95.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695959</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28708309</id>
	<title>Re:Still mandatory where I work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247652540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I expect those corporations to fail soon for the benefit of the connected mankind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I expect those corporations to fail soon for the benefit of the connected mankind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I expect those corporations to fail soon for the benefit of the connected mankind.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695371</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698071</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>AC-x</author>
	<datestamp>1247575560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IE6 &gt; NS4.</p><p>That's as far as it goes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IE6 &gt; NS4.That 's as far as it goes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IE6 &gt; NS4.That's as far as it goes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695409</id>
	<title>Re:I *WISH* it was down in the single digits</title>
	<author>Eudial</author>
	<datestamp>1247562420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>My experiences with large corp and gov't clients tells me otherwise.</p></div><p>Large corporations and governments* should hopefully not be major youtube users, so this really shouldn't be a problem here anyways.</p><p>*<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... or is the gazillions of narcissistic emo-videos on youtube some sort of CIA demotivation campaign?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>My experiences with large corp and gov't clients tells me otherwise.Large corporations and governments * should hopefully not be major youtube users , so this really should n't be a problem here anyways .
* ... or is the gazillions of narcissistic emo-videos on youtube some sort of CIA demotivation campaign ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My experiences with large corp and gov't clients tells me otherwise.Large corporations and governments* should hopefully not be major youtube users, so this really shouldn't be a problem here anyways.
* ... or is the gazillions of narcissistic emo-videos on youtube some sort of CIA demotivation campaign?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695267</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28703637</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>anss123</author>
	<datestamp>1247673720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why is the refresh button suddenly part of the address bar? There was absolutely no reason for that -- they just DID it, and users find it confusing because it's unexpected.</p></div><p>I've actually looked for a FF extension to make the refresh button part of the address bar. That's something IE8 got right as it makes it smaller and gets it out of the way.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is the refresh button suddenly part of the address bar ?
There was absolutely no reason for that -- they just DID it , and users find it confusing because it 's unexpected.I 've actually looked for a FF extension to make the refresh button part of the address bar .
That 's something IE8 got right as it makes it smaller and gets it out of the way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is the refresh button suddenly part of the address bar?
There was absolutely no reason for that -- they just DID it, and users find it confusing because it's unexpected.I've actually looked for a FF extension to make the refresh button part of the address bar.
That's something IE8 got right as it makes it smaller and gets it out of the way.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698147</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28699749</id>
	<title>Companies refusing to upgrade</title>
	<author>Tekoneiric</author>
	<datestamp>1247589360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It'd be nice if where I work would either upgrade our IE6 or install Firefox. I'd prefer they install Firefox but they see that as some kind of sin. People have gotten witten up for installing it when alot of people had admin rights. Needless to say they took the admin rights away.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 'd be nice if where I work would either upgrade our IE6 or install Firefox .
I 'd prefer they install Firefox but they see that as some kind of sin .
People have gotten witten up for installing it when alot of people had admin rights .
Needless to say they took the admin rights away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It'd be nice if where I work would either upgrade our IE6 or install Firefox.
I'd prefer they install Firefox but they see that as some kind of sin.
People have gotten witten up for installing it when alot of people had admin rights.
Needless to say they took the admin rights away.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696481</id>
	<title>Re:About time</title>
	<author>DoofusOfDeath</author>
	<datestamp>1247566560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Perhaps next, they can follow Slashdot's example and phase out support for web browsers.</p></div><p>No, I think MS would rather skip a step and just phase out Slashdot.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps next , they can follow Slashdot 's example and phase out support for web browsers.No , I think MS would rather skip a step and just phase out Slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps next, they can follow Slashdot's example and phase out support for web browsers.No, I think MS would rather skip a step and just phase out Slashdot.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695499</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698791</id>
	<title>Re:Hello? IT Department?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247581020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Smart? You mean lazy. Tables are for data, not for presentation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Smart ?
You mean lazy .
Tables are for data , not for presentation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Smart?
You mean lazy.
Tables are for data, not for presentation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695359</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695695</id>
	<title>Re:Slight problem...</title>
	<author>thisnamestoolong</author>
	<datestamp>1247563560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is definitely a valid argument -- but I think if we extrapolate this a bit into the future this announcement will encourage many more webmasters to stop supporting IE6 as well. Eventually, a site that many of these people use will go down and we will see the demise of IE6.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is definitely a valid argument -- but I think if we extrapolate this a bit into the future this announcement will encourage many more webmasters to stop supporting IE6 as well .
Eventually , a site that many of these people use will go down and we will see the demise of IE6 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is definitely a valid argument -- but I think if we extrapolate this a bit into the future this announcement will encourage many more webmasters to stop supporting IE6 as well.
Eventually, a site that many of these people use will go down and we will see the demise of IE6.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695889</id>
	<title>Re:no need of restrictions then</title>
	<author>FlyingBishop</author>
	<datestamp>1247564400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Increasingly, there are a lot of legitimate business tasks that require sites you might not expect. There are a lot of how-to videos on YouTube, for example. Or maybe you're evaluating speakers for an upcoming conference and you need to watch some clips of their speeches.</p><p>If this trend hits just a couple more major sites, you won't be able to run an office on IE6.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Increasingly , there are a lot of legitimate business tasks that require sites you might not expect .
There are a lot of how-to videos on YouTube , for example .
Or maybe you 're evaluating speakers for an upcoming conference and you need to watch some clips of their speeches.If this trend hits just a couple more major sites , you wo n't be able to run an office on IE6 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Increasingly, there are a lot of legitimate business tasks that require sites you might not expect.
There are a lot of how-to videos on YouTube, for example.
Or maybe you're evaluating speakers for an upcoming conference and you need to watch some clips of their speeches.If this trend hits just a couple more major sites, you won't be able to run an office on IE6.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695389</id>
	<title>And nothing of value was lost. n/t</title>
	<author>Eudial</author>
	<datestamp>1247562240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>N/t</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>N/t</tokentext>
<sentencetext>N/t</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696013</id>
	<title>Re:Why even support a browser?</title>
	<author>CannonballHead</author>
	<datestamp>1247564760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Some people like reaching a much of their potential audience as possible.  Even if that means extra coding.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Some people like reaching a much of their potential audience as possible .
Even if that means extra coding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some people like reaching a much of their potential audience as possible.
Even if that means extra coding.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695451</id>
	<title>Re:Market share</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247562540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree. That number must be completely made up. Lot's of corporations still have IE 6 as their "corporate IT approved" browser. I know we do because all our corporate web apps are such shit that they don't work in anything else.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
That number must be completely made up .
Lot 's of corporations still have IE 6 as their " corporate IT approved " browser .
I know we do because all our corporate web apps are such shit that they do n't work in anything else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
That number must be completely made up.
Lot's of corporations still have IE 6 as their "corporate IT approved" browser.
I know we do because all our corporate web apps are such shit that they don't work in anything else.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28702405</id>
	<title>Re:no need of restrictions then</title>
	<author>MemoryDragon</author>
	<datestamp>1247666820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah everybody is entitled to keep ie6 forever as long as he stays away from the internet<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah everybody is entitled to keep ie6 forever as long as he stays away from the internet : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah everybody is entitled to keep ie6 forever as long as he stays away from the internet :-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695303</id>
	<title>Hello? IT Department?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247605080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I, uh, want to upgrade to IE8.  Why? Uhhh, I hear it's safer to use.  What do you mean the time sheet tool and headcount apps won't work in IE8?!  I don't give a damn, how hard can it be to make them work? I need it NOOOOOOOOOW!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I , uh , want to upgrade to IE8 .
Why ? Uhhh , I hear it 's safer to use .
What do you mean the time sheet tool and headcount apps wo n't work in IE8 ? !
I do n't give a damn , how hard can it be to make them work ?
I need it NOOOOOOOOOW !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I, uh, want to upgrade to IE8.
Why? Uhhh, I hear it's safer to use.
What do you mean the time sheet tool and headcount apps won't work in IE8?!
I don't give a damn, how hard can it be to make them work?
I need it NOOOOOOOOOW!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695713</id>
	<title>Re:Hello? IT Department?</title>
	<author>mrgiles</author>
	<datestamp>1247563620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>BOFH replies:
<br> <br>
That's easy to fix, but I can't be bothered.</htmltext>
<tokenext>BOFH replies : That 's easy to fix , but I ca n't be bothered .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>BOFH replies:
 
That's easy to fix, but I can't be bothered.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696033</id>
	<title>Re:Slight problem...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247564820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>So they'll upgrade finally now too, right?</p></div></blockquote><p>Not to use YouTube, but to use the websites that will follow YouTube. Also PHBs will finally upgrade at home, and thus become amenable to upgrade advice at work.</p><p>But what's interesting is Google is co-ordinating assets to deal with The Pestilence. Drop support at YouTube, while offering their own well-hyped standards-compliant Chrome.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So they 'll upgrade finally now too , right ? Not to use YouTube , but to use the websites that will follow YouTube .
Also PHBs will finally upgrade at home , and thus become amenable to upgrade advice at work.But what 's interesting is Google is co-ordinating assets to deal with The Pestilence .
Drop support at YouTube , while offering their own well-hyped standards-compliant Chrome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they'll upgrade finally now too, right?Not to use YouTube, but to use the websites that will follow YouTube.
Also PHBs will finally upgrade at home, and thus become amenable to upgrade advice at work.But what's interesting is Google is co-ordinating assets to deal with The Pestilence.
Drop support at YouTube, while offering their own well-hyped standards-compliant Chrome.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695803</id>
	<title>Re:no need of restrictions then</title>
	<author>Jorgensen</author>
	<datestamp>1247563980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Please please please for the sake of <tt>${DEITY:-everybody}</tt> do <em>not</em> say that out loud. There's bound to be a PHB somewhere who thinks that's a good idea....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Please please please for the sake of $ { DEITY : -everybody } do not say that out loud .
There 's bound to be a PHB somewhere who thinks that 's a good idea... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please please please for the sake of ${DEITY:-everybody} do not say that out loud.
There's bound to be a PHB somewhere who thinks that's a good idea....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695425</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28697945</id>
	<title>Re:Still mandatory where I work</title>
	<author>bertoelcon</author>
	<datestamp>1247574600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Does anyone really care if corporate America is left in the dark ages?  Let's face it - corporations are there to serve the public.  When they fail to serve, they are forgotten and left behind.  They will either adapt to what the consumers demand from the web, or they can abandon the web, and become part of history.  No problem.</p></div><p>America doesn't allow massive corporate failures to fail, it puts them on "business welfare"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone really care if corporate America is left in the dark ages ?
Let 's face it - corporations are there to serve the public .
When they fail to serve , they are forgotten and left behind .
They will either adapt to what the consumers demand from the web , or they can abandon the web , and become part of history .
No problem.America does n't allow massive corporate failures to fail , it puts them on " business welfare "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone really care if corporate America is left in the dark ages?
Let's face it - corporations are there to serve the public.
When they fail to serve, they are forgotten and left behind.
They will either adapt to what the consumers demand from the web, or they can abandon the web, and become part of history.
No problem.America doesn't allow massive corporate failures to fail, it puts them on "business welfare"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695499</id>
	<title>Re:About time</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247562780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Perhaps next, they can follow Slashdot's example and phase out support for web browsers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps next , they can follow Slashdot 's example and phase out support for web browsers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps next, they can follow Slashdot's example and phase out support for web browsers.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695907</id>
	<title>It's a friggin video site.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247564460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly what superfantastic functions of a 'new' browser does youtube need to play <b>flash</b> videos?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly what superfantastic functions of a 'new ' browser does youtube need to play flash videos ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly what superfantastic functions of a 'new' browser does youtube need to play flash videos?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695567</id>
	<title>Corporate Intranets</title>
	<author>musicon</author>
	<datestamp>1247563080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't start celebrating prematurely. There's a <a href="http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2009/06/state\_of\_the\_br\_1.html#more" title="quirksmode.org">good article</a> [quirksmode.org] on Quirksmode about why IE6 will continue to live on corporate intranets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't start celebrating prematurely .
There 's a good article [ quirksmode.org ] on Quirksmode about why IE6 will continue to live on corporate intranets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't start celebrating prematurely.
There's a good article [quirksmode.org] on Quirksmode about why IE6 will continue to live on corporate intranets.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28700937</id>
	<title>Bite them in the ass</title>
	<author>mcrbids</author>
	<datestamp>1247691240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is not a good move for Google.</p><p>Youtube is getting lots of hits, but it's quickly being passed up by the likes of Hulu and Netflix in the war for the online Living Room. See, Internet "TV" has proven itself - Hulu is able to charge as much or more for an ad than the networks in many cases. Hulu advertisers can target their audience much more closely because ads are tied to shows, not to networks or times of day. And, they *can* be filtered by geographical area, just like the networks.</p><p>So Google needs to get off their duff and do something with YT besides throw cash at it. I watch hours of 'net TV on Hulu, netflix, and casttv.com every week. I watch perhaps 10 minutes of YT videos in a week.</p><p>If Google isn't careful, YT will become forever entrenched as the domain of home videos, tweenie masterpieces and conspiracy theories.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is not a good move for Google.Youtube is getting lots of hits , but it 's quickly being passed up by the likes of Hulu and Netflix in the war for the online Living Room .
See , Internet " TV " has proven itself - Hulu is able to charge as much or more for an ad than the networks in many cases .
Hulu advertisers can target their audience much more closely because ads are tied to shows , not to networks or times of day .
And , they * can * be filtered by geographical area , just like the networks.So Google needs to get off their duff and do something with YT besides throw cash at it .
I watch hours of 'net TV on Hulu , netflix , and casttv.com every week .
I watch perhaps 10 minutes of YT videos in a week.If Google is n't careful , YT will become forever entrenched as the domain of home videos , tweenie masterpieces and conspiracy theories .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is not a good move for Google.Youtube is getting lots of hits, but it's quickly being passed up by the likes of Hulu and Netflix in the war for the online Living Room.
See, Internet "TV" has proven itself - Hulu is able to charge as much or more for an ad than the networks in many cases.
Hulu advertisers can target their audience much more closely because ads are tied to shows, not to networks or times of day.
And, they *can* be filtered by geographical area, just like the networks.So Google needs to get off their duff and do something with YT besides throw cash at it.
I watch hours of 'net TV on Hulu, netflix, and casttv.com every week.
I watch perhaps 10 minutes of YT videos in a week.If Google isn't careful, YT will become forever entrenched as the domain of home videos, tweenie masterpieces and conspiracy theories.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695213</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698147</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>rantingkitten</author>
	<datestamp>1247576160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>And lets face it, IE8's UI isn't terrible. You might not be used to it, or like it as much, but its objectively not all that bad.</i> <br>
<br>
"Used to it" is important in interfaces.  Why is the refresh button suddenly part of the address bar?  There was absolutely no reason for that -- they just DID it, and users find it confusing because it's unexpected.  <br>
<br>
Why are the controls pushed to the four corners of creation instead of being grouped in a single location?   Back and forward are now way over HERE while stop and refresh are way over THERE.  It's cumbersome and there was no reason to change it.<br>
<br>
Why are the menus now little indecipherable icon:  What, pray tell, would be logical to put under the house-looking icon?  I can't tell, so I have to click each one to figure it out, and only get back to those options through rote memory instead of contextual clues.
<br> <br>
Why are those aforementioned menus taking up such a huge portion of the real estate used by tabs?   That's one of the most obnoxious UI decisions they could have made.  <br>
<br>
No, the UI in IE8 is truly an abomination.  Thankfully I never have to use it, but the few times I have, the only thing that impressed me was the speed at which it caused me to want to stop using it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And lets face it , IE8 's UI is n't terrible .
You might not be used to it , or like it as much , but its objectively not all that bad .
" Used to it " is important in interfaces .
Why is the refresh button suddenly part of the address bar ?
There was absolutely no reason for that -- they just DID it , and users find it confusing because it 's unexpected .
Why are the controls pushed to the four corners of creation instead of being grouped in a single location ?
Back and forward are now way over HERE while stop and refresh are way over THERE .
It 's cumbersome and there was no reason to change it .
Why are the menus now little indecipherable icon : What , pray tell , would be logical to put under the house-looking icon ?
I ca n't tell , so I have to click each one to figure it out , and only get back to those options through rote memory instead of contextual clues .
Why are those aforementioned menus taking up such a huge portion of the real estate used by tabs ?
That 's one of the most obnoxious UI decisions they could have made .
No , the UI in IE8 is truly an abomination .
Thankfully I never have to use it , but the few times I have , the only thing that impressed me was the speed at which it caused me to want to stop using it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And lets face it, IE8's UI isn't terrible.
You might not be used to it, or like it as much, but its objectively not all that bad.
"Used to it" is important in interfaces.
Why is the refresh button suddenly part of the address bar?
There was absolutely no reason for that -- they just DID it, and users find it confusing because it's unexpected.
Why are the controls pushed to the four corners of creation instead of being grouped in a single location?
Back and forward are now way over HERE while stop and refresh are way over THERE.
It's cumbersome and there was no reason to change it.
Why are the menus now little indecipherable icon:  What, pray tell, would be logical to put under the house-looking icon?
I can't tell, so I have to click each one to figure it out, and only get back to those options through rote memory instead of contextual clues.
Why are those aforementioned menus taking up such a huge portion of the real estate used by tabs?
That's one of the most obnoxious UI decisions they could have made.
No, the UI in IE8 is truly an abomination.
Thankfully I never have to use it, but the few times I have, the only thing that impressed me was the speed at which it caused me to want to stop using it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28697351</id>
	<title>Re:Praise Jeebus!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247570880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please, just die.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please , just die .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please, just die.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28701379</id>
	<title>Someone aught to tell O2</title>
	<author>LRayZor</author>
	<datestamp>1247655780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Orange UK exiles Firefox from call centres.<br>250 quid threat sends rogue reps back to IE6</p><p><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/08/orange\_and\_ie6/" title="theregister.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/08/orange\_and\_ie6/</a> [theregister.co.uk]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Orange UK exiles Firefox from call centres.250 quid threat sends rogue reps back to IE6http : //www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/08/orange \ _and \ _ie6/ [ theregister.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Orange UK exiles Firefox from call centres.250 quid threat sends rogue reps back to IE6http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/08/orange\_and\_ie6/ [theregister.co.uk]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696139</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>MojoRilla</author>
	<datestamp>1247565300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unable to handle gzipped js or css correctly. It advertises it can accept it but it really can't (or at least some versions can't).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unable to handle gzipped js or css correctly .
It advertises it can accept it but it really ca n't ( or at least some versions ca n't ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unable to handle gzipped js or css correctly.
It advertises it can accept it but it really can't (or at least some versions can't).</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696059</id>
	<title>Finally</title>
	<author>slasho81</author>
	<datestamp>1247564880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Finally Google found a use for YouTube - an incentive to phase out old browsers in preparation for their web software.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Finally Google found a use for YouTube - an incentive to phase out old browsers in preparation for their web software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Finally Google found a use for YouTube - an incentive to phase out old browsers in preparation for their web software.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696895</id>
	<title>Re:no need of restrictions then</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247568780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most existing corporate firewalls probably already block YouTube anyway, in fact the majority probably do it, which is likely what lead YouTube to deciding to discontinue support for IE6 because they see lower traffic levels from that browser, due to the firewalls blocking YouTube from corporate networks.</p><p>The fact that youtube is ditching IE is meaningless to the majority of websites that still do get hits from corporate IE6 users.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most existing corporate firewalls probably already block YouTube anyway , in fact the majority probably do it , which is likely what lead YouTube to deciding to discontinue support for IE6 because they see lower traffic levels from that browser , due to the firewalls blocking YouTube from corporate networks.The fact that youtube is ditching IE is meaningless to the majority of websites that still do get hits from corporate IE6 users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most existing corporate firewalls probably already block YouTube anyway, in fact the majority probably do it, which is likely what lead YouTube to deciding to discontinue support for IE6 because they see lower traffic levels from that browser, due to the firewalls blocking YouTube from corporate networks.The fact that youtube is ditching IE is meaningless to the majority of websites that still do get hits from corporate IE6 users.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695425</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695437</id>
	<title>Re:I don't know...</title>
	<author>vux984</author>
	<datestamp>1247562480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>IE6 was a decent browser, aside from the fact it was a pain to code for and insecure.</i></p><p>Car analogy:</p><p>IE8 is your your new car. It runs smooth, and there are no real complaints about the reliability. The seats are little on the hard side, and you'd like more leg room.</p><p>IE6 is your old car. It broke down every other week, belched poisonous black smoke into the cars around it, and the doors didn't close properly. But the seats were soft and you had more leg room.</p><p>Your old car was 'decent' the same way IE6 was decent.</p><p>And lets face it, IE8's UI isn't terrible. You might not be used to it, or like it as much, but its objectively not all that bad. They've moved things around, and hid a lot of stuff almost nobody used. But the tab support and integrated search alone make the UI superior. I don't find it slow (but I have lots of RAM). I still prefer Firefox, but I no longer loathe using (or developing for) Internet Explorer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IE6 was a decent browser , aside from the fact it was a pain to code for and insecure.Car analogy : IE8 is your your new car .
It runs smooth , and there are no real complaints about the reliability .
The seats are little on the hard side , and you 'd like more leg room.IE6 is your old car .
It broke down every other week , belched poisonous black smoke into the cars around it , and the doors did n't close properly .
But the seats were soft and you had more leg room.Your old car was 'decent ' the same way IE6 was decent.And lets face it , IE8 's UI is n't terrible .
You might not be used to it , or like it as much , but its objectively not all that bad .
They 've moved things around , and hid a lot of stuff almost nobody used .
But the tab support and integrated search alone make the UI superior .
I do n't find it slow ( but I have lots of RAM ) .
I still prefer Firefox , but I no longer loathe using ( or developing for ) Internet Explorer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IE6 was a decent browser, aside from the fact it was a pain to code for and insecure.Car analogy:IE8 is your your new car.
It runs smooth, and there are no real complaints about the reliability.
The seats are little on the hard side, and you'd like more leg room.IE6 is your old car.
It broke down every other week, belched poisonous black smoke into the cars around it, and the doors didn't close properly.
But the seats were soft and you had more leg room.Your old car was 'decent' the same way IE6 was decent.And lets face it, IE8's UI isn't terrible.
You might not be used to it, or like it as much, but its objectively not all that bad.
They've moved things around, and hid a lot of stuff almost nobody used.
But the tab support and integrated search alone make the UI superior.
I don't find it slow (but I have lots of RAM).
I still prefer Firefox, but I no longer loathe using (or developing for) Internet Explorer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695241</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696409</id>
	<title>Fixed it for ya</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247566200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>s/please/, bro/</htmltext>
<tokenext>s/please/ , bro/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>s/please/, bro/</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695455</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695847</id>
	<title>Re:Praise Jeebus!</title>
	<author>mike260</author>
	<datestamp>1247564160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You don't welcome the pressure to upgrade?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't welcome the pressure to upgrade ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't welcome the pressure to upgrade?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695455</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695255</id>
	<title>Praise Jeebus!</title>
	<author>chill</author>
	<datestamp>1247604900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What is needed is a good exorcism.  IE6 needs to be cast out from the net and its bloated carcass nailed to a tree as a lesson to others.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What is needed is a good exorcism .
IE6 needs to be cast out from the net and its bloated carcass nailed to a tree as a lesson to others .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is needed is a good exorcism.
IE6 needs to be cast out from the net and its bloated carcass nailed to a tree as a lesson to others.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696811</id>
	<title>IE6 users will miss out...</title>
	<author>Delicious Loli</author>
	<datestamp>1247568420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...on stuff like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTHA\_bxaxPA&amp;fmt=22" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">this</a> [youtube.com].</p><p>Sucks for them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...on stuff like this [ youtube.com ] .Sucks for them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...on stuff like this [youtube.com].Sucks for them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696509</id>
	<title>Web 3.0</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247566740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where surfing (read: suffering) with three browsers simultaneously is required.  I mean, how else do we get it to be 3-dimensional?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where surfing ( read : suffering ) with three browsers simultaneously is required .
I mean , how else do we get it to be 3-dimensional ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where surfing (read: suffering) with three browsers simultaneously is required.
I mean, how else do we get it to be 3-dimensional?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695499</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698911</id>
	<title>Nice banner.  What about other browsers?</title>
	<author>j741</author>
	<datestamp>1247581980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So I had a look at the banner mentioned, and I find it odd that it states "Please upgrade to one of these modern browsers" followed by only IE8, FF3.5, and Google Chrome.  Why not mention (or even hint at) the fact that other "modern browsers" also exist.  You know, browsers like Opera or Safari (the OS default for MAC users), or any others.  Simply re-wording the banner to something like "Please upgrade to a modern browser such as the following" would be much more polite.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So I had a look at the banner mentioned , and I find it odd that it states " Please upgrade to one of these modern browsers " followed by only IE8 , FF3.5 , and Google Chrome .
Why not mention ( or even hint at ) the fact that other " modern browsers " also exist .
You know , browsers like Opera or Safari ( the OS default for MAC users ) , or any others .
Simply re-wording the banner to something like " Please upgrade to a modern browser such as the following " would be much more polite .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I had a look at the banner mentioned, and I find it odd that it states "Please upgrade to one of these modern browsers" followed by only IE8, FF3.5, and Google Chrome.
Why not mention (or even hint at) the fact that other "modern browsers" also exist.
You know, browsers like Opera or Safari (the OS default for MAC users), or any others.
Simply re-wording the banner to something like "Please upgrade to a modern browser such as the following" would be much more polite.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698053</id>
	<title>Re:Still mandatory where I work</title>
	<author>destuxor</author>
	<datestamp>1247575440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Look, I hate to nitpick, but while everyone knows what you mean by IEx not everyone knows what ERP and ECM stand for. Although I could go Google it, I find it a little inconsiderate. I work for the government and know a lot of acronyms that I spell out if I don't expect everyone to know them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Look , I hate to nitpick , but while everyone knows what you mean by IEx not everyone knows what ERP and ECM stand for .
Although I could go Google it , I find it a little inconsiderate .
I work for the government and know a lot of acronyms that I spell out if I do n't expect everyone to know them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look, I hate to nitpick, but while everyone knows what you mean by IEx not everyone knows what ERP and ECM stand for.
Although I could go Google it, I find it a little inconsiderate.
I work for the government and know a lot of acronyms that I spell out if I don't expect everyone to know them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695533</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696465</id>
	<title>Re:Market share</title>
	<author>symbolset</author>
	<datestamp>1247566500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Lot's of corporations still have IE 6 as their "corporate IT approved" browser. I know we do because all our corporate web apps are such shit that they don't work in anything else.</p></div><p>And when the server side software update project gets going, one bullet item on the "requirements" list will be "Cross Platform support".
</p><p>"Cross platform support: Service must support access from, and usability for, users of AT LEAST TWO of: Internet Explorer 6, Internet Explorer 7, Internet Explorer 8, Firefox 4.2, gopher."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lot 's of corporations still have IE 6 as their " corporate IT approved " browser .
I know we do because all our corporate web apps are such shit that they do n't work in anything else.And when the server side software update project gets going , one bullet item on the " requirements " list will be " Cross Platform support " .
" Cross platform support : Service must support access from , and usability for , users of AT LEAST TWO of : Internet Explorer 6 , Internet Explorer 7 , Internet Explorer 8 , Firefox 4.2 , gopher .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lot's of corporations still have IE 6 as their "corporate IT approved" browser.
I know we do because all our corporate web apps are such shit that they don't work in anything else.And when the server side software update project gets going, one bullet item on the "requirements" list will be "Cross Platform support".
"Cross platform support: Service must support access from, and usability for, users of AT LEAST TWO of: Internet Explorer 6, Internet Explorer 7, Internet Explorer 8, Firefox 4.2, gopher.
"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695451</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695241</id>
	<title>I don't know...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247604900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't know about anyone else, but I really felt that IE6 was a much better (although flawed) browser than IE7. Sure, IE7/8 has new features, but its UI is terrible and seems to be slower responding. IE6 was a decent browser, aside from the fact it was a pain to code for and insecure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know about anyone else , but I really felt that IE6 was a much better ( although flawed ) browser than IE7 .
Sure , IE7/8 has new features , but its UI is terrible and seems to be slower responding .
IE6 was a decent browser , aside from the fact it was a pain to code for and insecure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know about anyone else, but I really felt that IE6 was a much better (although flawed) browser than IE7.
Sure, IE7/8 has new features, but its UI is terrible and seems to be slower responding.
IE6 was a decent browser, aside from the fact it was a pain to code for and insecure.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695587</id>
	<title>Actually - IE6 has over 15\% market share</title>
	<author>caffeinejolt</author>
	<datestamp>1247563140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://statowl.com/web\_browser\_usage\_by\_version\_trend.php?1=1&amp;timeframe=last\_6&amp;interval=month&amp;chart\_id=13&amp;fltr\_br=&amp;fltr\_os=&amp;fltr\_se=&amp;fltr\_cn=&amp;limit\%5B\%5D=ie&amp;limit\%5B\%5D=firefox&amp;limit\%5B\%5D=safari&amp;limit\%5B\%5D=chrome&amp;limit\%5B\%5D=opera&amp;limit\%5B\%5D=netscape&amp;chart\_id=11" title="statowl.com" rel="nofollow">This graph shows market share trends for relevant browser versions</a> [statowl.com].  Of course, I REALLY wish it was "in the single digits".</htmltext>
<tokenext>This graph shows market share trends for relevant browser versions [ statowl.com ] .
Of course , I REALLY wish it was " in the single digits " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This graph shows market share trends for relevant browser versions [statowl.com].
Of course, I REALLY wish it was "in the single digits".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696757</id>
	<title>Re:Last I checked, I couldn't upgrade</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1247568060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But other browsers do and besides, there's no reason to be using an OS that's coming up on being a decade old.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But other browsers do and besides , there 's no reason to be using an OS that 's coming up on being a decade old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But other browsers do and besides, there's no reason to be using an OS that's coming up on being a decade old.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695417</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695603</id>
	<title>Re:I *WISH* it was down in the single digits</title>
	<author>lambent</author>
	<datestamp>1247563200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So large corporations and governments use IE6, but why should content providers cater to them?  If their only reason for using IE6 is for the horrible legacy apps, then by all means, let them keep IE6 around to continue to use their horrible legacy apps.</p><p>This is no way justifies, however, everyone else in sane-people's world having to jump through hoops to support the terrible abomination of a web browser that is IE6.  If they want to screw around at work watching youtube, let them do it in an unsupported fashion.  Everyone else is ready to move on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So large corporations and governments use IE6 , but why should content providers cater to them ?
If their only reason for using IE6 is for the horrible legacy apps , then by all means , let them keep IE6 around to continue to use their horrible legacy apps.This is no way justifies , however , everyone else in sane-people 's world having to jump through hoops to support the terrible abomination of a web browser that is IE6 .
If they want to screw around at work watching youtube , let them do it in an unsupported fashion .
Everyone else is ready to move on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So large corporations and governments use IE6, but why should content providers cater to them?
If their only reason for using IE6 is for the horrible legacy apps, then by all means, let them keep IE6 around to continue to use their horrible legacy apps.This is no way justifies, however, everyone else in sane-people's world having to jump through hoops to support the terrible abomination of a web browser that is IE6.
If they want to screw around at work watching youtube, let them do it in an unsupported fashion.
Everyone else is ready to move on.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695267</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28696619</id>
	<title>Re:Market share</title>
	<author>joetomato</author>
	<datestamp>1247567280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Corporate IT departments (and their management) that are still using IE6 probably aren't going to be too upset that their users / employees aren't able to access YouTube while at work.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Corporate IT departments ( and their management ) that are still using IE6 probably are n't going to be too upset that their users / employees are n't able to access YouTube while at work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Corporate IT departments (and their management) that are still using IE6 probably aren't going to be too upset that their users / employees aren't able to access YouTube while at work.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28695451</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28712017</id>
	<title>Re:Nice banner. What about other browsers?</title>
	<author>fastasleep</author>
	<datestamp>1247674140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>how about lynx?</htmltext>
<tokenext>how about lynx ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how about lynx?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_14_1813200.28698911</parent>
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