<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_07_10_137239</id>
	<title>Eye In the Sky For City Crime Fighting</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1247232780000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Tiger4 writes <i>"The mayor of the <a href="http://www.cityoflancasterca.org/">City of Lancaster</a> in the Antelope Valley of southern California is considering a <a href="http://avpress.com/n/09/0709\_s3.hts">high-definition video flying platform to aid in crime fighting</a>. The aircraft,  would circle the city constantly, able to zoom in on activity spots instantly. 'You never know when you are being watched or followed. It would be stupid to commit a crime. You see it with such detail,' said Mayor R. Rex Parris, who took a ride last week in a camera-equipped airplane with pilot Dick Rutan. 'I have every hope that Lancaster will be the first city to deploy it. I've never been so excited about anything.' <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick\_Rutan">Dick Rutan</a> is the same pilot who flew around the world non-stop in the Voyager, custom built by his brother <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt\_Rutan">Burt Rutan</a> at Scaled Composites in Mojave."</i> The aircraft is nothing special, a garden-variety Cessna or the like, but "the camera is an example of technology developed for and used by the military making a transition to civilian applications, Rutan said."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tiger4 writes " The mayor of the City of Lancaster in the Antelope Valley of southern California is considering a high-definition video flying platform to aid in crime fighting .
The aircraft , would circle the city constantly , able to zoom in on activity spots instantly .
'You never know when you are being watched or followed .
It would be stupid to commit a crime .
You see it with such detail, ' said Mayor R. Rex Parris , who took a ride last week in a camera-equipped airplane with pilot Dick Rutan .
'I have every hope that Lancaster will be the first city to deploy it .
I 've never been so excited about anything .
' Dick Rutan is the same pilot who flew around the world non-stop in the Voyager , custom built by his brother Burt Rutan at Scaled Composites in Mojave .
" The aircraft is nothing special , a garden-variety Cessna or the like , but " the camera is an example of technology developed for and used by the military making a transition to civilian applications , Rutan said .
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<sentencetext>Tiger4 writes "The mayor of the City of Lancaster in the Antelope Valley of southern California is considering a high-definition video flying platform to aid in crime fighting.
The aircraft,  would circle the city constantly, able to zoom in on activity spots instantly.
'You never know when you are being watched or followed.
It would be stupid to commit a crime.
You see it with such detail,' said Mayor R. Rex Parris, who took a ride last week in a camera-equipped airplane with pilot Dick Rutan.
'I have every hope that Lancaster will be the first city to deploy it.
I've never been so excited about anything.
' Dick Rutan is the same pilot who flew around the world non-stop in the Voyager, custom built by his brother Burt Rutan at Scaled Composites in Mojave.
" The aircraft is nothing special, a garden-variety Cessna or the like, but "the camera is an example of technology developed for and used by the military making a transition to civilian applications, Rutan said.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28654389</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247217300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Steal?  What, you don't have yours any more?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Steal ?
What , you do n't have yours any more ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Steal?
What, you don't have yours any more?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650693</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>mooingyak</author>
	<datestamp>1247244180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are a number of places named after the tribes who originally inhabited the area.  So the name isn't stolen in the sense of copied from some other place with the same name, though it would still be fairly easy to argue that the name is stolen in a different sense.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are a number of places named after the tribes who originally inhabited the area .
So the name is n't stolen in the sense of copied from some other place with the same name , though it would still be fairly easy to argue that the name is stolen in a different sense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are a number of places named after the tribes who originally inhabited the area.
So the name isn't stolen in the sense of copied from some other place with the same name, though it would still be fairly easy to argue that the name is stolen in a different sense.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648913</id>
	<title>Useful big brother or foggy day crime spike ?</title>
	<author>what about</author>
	<datestamp>1247237160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This surely is big brother watching you.<br>How do you know who is the "guard dog" watching ?<br>Who is in power is surely willing to keep it and it will use all means available.<br>Get ready to long shot videos or images of possibly "strange" situation being broadcastet to destroy a political opponent.<br>(Hey, look, your candidate was walking on a notoriously gay road !!!! he was talking to a possible drug dealer !!!!)<br>Of course any plausible reason for doing it will be seen as irrelevant.</p><p>Talking about the bad guy, he just needs a mask or a foggy day to have a coverup, not so difficult.</p><p>The end result seems negative in many ways to me, I would rather have more COPS on patrol than a flyng spy on the sky.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This surely is big brother watching you.How do you know who is the " guard dog " watching ? Who is in power is surely willing to keep it and it will use all means available.Get ready to long shot videos or images of possibly " strange " situation being broadcastet to destroy a political opponent .
( Hey , look , your candidate was walking on a notoriously gay road ! ! ! !
he was talking to a possible drug dealer ! ! ! !
) Of course any plausible reason for doing it will be seen as irrelevant.Talking about the bad guy , he just needs a mask or a foggy day to have a coverup , not so difficult.The end result seems negative in many ways to me , I would rather have more COPS on patrol than a flyng spy on the sky .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This surely is big brother watching you.How do you know who is the "guard dog" watching ?Who is in power is surely willing to keep it and it will use all means available.Get ready to long shot videos or images of possibly "strange" situation being broadcastet to destroy a political opponent.
(Hey, look, your candidate was walking on a notoriously gay road !!!!
he was talking to a possible drug dealer !!!!
)Of course any plausible reason for doing it will be seen as irrelevant.Talking about the bad guy, he just needs a mask or a foggy day to have a coverup, not so difficult.The end result seems negative in many ways to me, I would rather have more COPS on patrol than a flyng spy on the sky.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28667133</id>
	<title>Re:Next step</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1247412180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, the solution to this is easy, isn't it?</p><p>He is only one guy. I say "SOMEONE MUST PAY!!".</p><p>I give you a hint: That someone's name starts with "P" and ends in "arris"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p><p>Either kick his ass, or shut up. Whining will not fix anything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , the solution to this is easy , is n't it ? He is only one guy .
I say " SOMEONE MUST PAY ! !
" .I give you a hint : That someone 's name starts with " P " and ends in " arris " : PEither kick his ass , or shut up .
Whining will not fix anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, the solution to this is easy, isn't it?He is only one guy.
I say "SOMEONE MUST PAY!!
".I give you a hint: That someone's name starts with "P" and ends in "arris" :PEither kick his ass, or shut up.
Whining will not fix anything.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28652485</id>
	<title>Re:It should already be</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247252280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>This guy seems to think that criminals don't believe laws are logical and beneficial</i></p><p>Many laws aren't. Sodomy laws, laws against gambling, pot, prostitution, laws against blacks and whites marrying, laws against alcohol. Yes, some bad laws have been repealed but many laws are in fact not only not beneficial, but harmful to society and a lot of them HAVEN'T been repealed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This guy seems to think that criminals do n't believe laws are logical and beneficialMany laws are n't .
Sodomy laws , laws against gambling , pot , prostitution , laws against blacks and whites marrying , laws against alcohol .
Yes , some bad laws have been repealed but many laws are in fact not only not beneficial , but harmful to society and a lot of them HAVE N'T been repealed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This guy seems to think that criminals don't believe laws are logical and beneficialMany laws aren't.
Sodomy laws, laws against gambling, pot, prostitution, laws against blacks and whites marrying, laws against alcohol.
Yes, some bad laws have been repealed but many laws are in fact not only not beneficial, but harmful to society and a lot of them HAVEN'T been repealed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649291</id>
	<title>I actually may like this idea...</title>
	<author>sunking2</author>
	<datestamp>1247238840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If it could reduce the number of cops running around with attitudes. In general our police forces have become way too big, and bored cops develope attitudes. Of course this likely won't happen and our taxes will go up to support this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it could reduce the number of cops running around with attitudes .
In general our police forces have become way too big , and bored cops develope attitudes .
Of course this likely wo n't happen and our taxes will go up to support this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it could reduce the number of cops running around with attitudes.
In general our police forces have become way too big, and bored cops develope attitudes.
Of course this likely won't happen and our taxes will go up to support this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28652305</id>
	<title>Eye in the sky-with Arnie Pie</title>
	<author>yaksha</author>
	<datestamp>1247251560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why not hire Arnie Pie and Kent Brockman of channel 6 news of  'Eye in the Sky' with Arnie Pie fame!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not hire Arnie Pie and Kent Brockman of channel 6 news of 'Eye in the Sky ' with Arnie Pie fame !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not hire Arnie Pie and Kent Brockman of channel 6 news of  'Eye in the Sky' with Arnie Pie fame!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28655377</id>
	<title>Britan already has this</title>
	<author>thegoldenear</author>
	<datestamp>1247223300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We already have this in Manchester, England:<br><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/35164707@N07/3516169162/" title="flickr.com">http://www.flickr.com/photos/35164707@N07/3516169162/</a> [flickr.com]</p><p>As do many British cities.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We already have this in Manchester , England : http : //www.flickr.com/photos/35164707 @ N07/3516169162/ [ flickr.com ] As do many British cities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We already have this in Manchester, England:http://www.flickr.com/photos/35164707@N07/3516169162/ [flickr.com]As do many British cities.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648921</id>
	<title>Well, well.</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1247237220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not really sure that this is a "transition of technology from military to civilian application" as much as it is a <i>militarization of a historically civilian function</i>. Sure, if you look at the org charts, police are not military, nor have they changed much; but if you look at hardware and tactics there does seem to be a trend. The enthusiasm for using SWAT teams in all sorts of crazy places, at considerable peril to those ostensibly being protected and served, random little podunk county sheriffs picking up APCs, now aerial surveillance mechanisms...<br> <br>

Luckily, the police are <a href="http://radgeek.com/gt/2009/05/pba-nypd-support-our-troops.jpg" title="radgeek.com">not at all confused</a> [radgeek.com] about their role...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not really sure that this is a " transition of technology from military to civilian application " as much as it is a militarization of a historically civilian function .
Sure , if you look at the org charts , police are not military , nor have they changed much ; but if you look at hardware and tactics there does seem to be a trend .
The enthusiasm for using SWAT teams in all sorts of crazy places , at considerable peril to those ostensibly being protected and served , random little podunk county sheriffs picking up APCs , now aerial surveillance mechanisms.. . Luckily , the police are not at all confused [ radgeek.com ] about their role.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not really sure that this is a "transition of technology from military to civilian application" as much as it is a militarization of a historically civilian function.
Sure, if you look at the org charts, police are not military, nor have they changed much; but if you look at hardware and tactics there does seem to be a trend.
The enthusiasm for using SWAT teams in all sorts of crazy places, at considerable peril to those ostensibly being protected and served, random little podunk county sheriffs picking up APCs, now aerial surveillance mechanisms... 

Luckily, the police are not at all confused [radgeek.com] about their role...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650835</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>SlashBugs</author>
	<datestamp>1247244720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Copying isn't theft! At worst, it's copyright infringement. If the original city of Lancaster wants to profit from its name it should be touring the world, engaging with its fans and charging money for gigs. You're clearly just a shill for the CIAA (Cartographic Industry Association of Angles and saxons)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Copying is n't theft !
At worst , it 's copyright infringement .
If the original city of Lancaster wants to profit from its name it should be touring the world , engaging with its fans and charging money for gigs .
You 're clearly just a shill for the CIAA ( Cartographic Industry Association of Angles and saxons )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Copying isn't theft!
At worst, it's copyright infringement.
If the original city of Lancaster wants to profit from its name it should be touring the world, engaging with its fans and charging money for gigs.
You're clearly just a shill for the CIAA (Cartographic Industry Association of Angles and saxons)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28662377</id>
	<title>The Nerve of These Facists!</title>
	<author>AP31R0N</author>
	<datestamp>1247343780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have the right to commit crimes in privacy! It's bad enough that people lock their houses when they leave, but this is going to make my work all the harder. Shit, now i'm going have to switch cars and double back through tunnels.  Won't somebody PLEASE think of the criminals!</p><p>Thank goodness this system wasn't in place after I robbed that 7-11.  They might have tracked me to my own home.  What kind of country do we live in where "cops" can make me accountable for my actions?  Not any kind of country I want to live in.</p><p>And these speed cameras are infringing on my God given right to go as fast as my car's engine will take me.  Now I have worry about being watched as I do 50 in the suburbs.  If some kid runs out in front of me, he'll learn his lesson, and he won't do it again.  Damn nanny state expect us to watch out for everyone.  Who's watching out for us???</p><p>I shouted fire in a crowded movie theater and they had the nerve to arrest ME for using my right to free speech.  No one was in any danger, as there wasn't a fire.  I was just yanking their chains.  What a bunch of humorless wussies we've become.</p><p>Just the other day some cop told me I shouldn't drive while using my cell phone.  I said, "I can handle doing two things at once" and he whined about 'putting other drivers and pedestrians at risk'.</p><p>There I am going to visit my pal Jim.  And THEY'RE watching me.  Why do they care that I'm visiting Jim?You know why they're doing all this?  Because they're onto me.  They know how important I am.  I know the truth, man.  Of the millions of people in my area, they're watching ME.  They have nothing better to do! I'm the center of the damn universe and they know it.  I'm just trying to commit my crimes in peace.  Is that so wrong?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have the right to commit crimes in privacy !
It 's bad enough that people lock their houses when they leave , but this is going to make my work all the harder .
Shit , now i 'm going have to switch cars and double back through tunnels .
Wo n't somebody PLEASE think of the criminals ! Thank goodness this system was n't in place after I robbed that 7-11 .
They might have tracked me to my own home .
What kind of country do we live in where " cops " can make me accountable for my actions ?
Not any kind of country I want to live in.And these speed cameras are infringing on my God given right to go as fast as my car 's engine will take me .
Now I have worry about being watched as I do 50 in the suburbs .
If some kid runs out in front of me , he 'll learn his lesson , and he wo n't do it again .
Damn nanny state expect us to watch out for everyone .
Who 's watching out for us ? ?
? I shouted fire in a crowded movie theater and they had the nerve to arrest ME for using my right to free speech .
No one was in any danger , as there was n't a fire .
I was just yanking their chains .
What a bunch of humorless wussies we 've become.Just the other day some cop told me I should n't drive while using my cell phone .
I said , " I can handle doing two things at once " and he whined about 'putting other drivers and pedestrians at risk'.There I am going to visit my pal Jim .
And THEY 'RE watching me .
Why do they care that I 'm visiting Jim ? You know why they 're doing all this ?
Because they 're onto me .
They know how important I am .
I know the truth , man .
Of the millions of people in my area , they 're watching ME .
They have nothing better to do !
I 'm the center of the damn universe and they know it .
I 'm just trying to commit my crimes in peace .
Is that so wrong ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have the right to commit crimes in privacy!
It's bad enough that people lock their houses when they leave, but this is going to make my work all the harder.
Shit, now i'm going have to switch cars and double back through tunnels.
Won't somebody PLEASE think of the criminals!Thank goodness this system wasn't in place after I robbed that 7-11.
They might have tracked me to my own home.
What kind of country do we live in where "cops" can make me accountable for my actions?
Not any kind of country I want to live in.And these speed cameras are infringing on my God given right to go as fast as my car's engine will take me.
Now I have worry about being watched as I do 50 in the suburbs.
If some kid runs out in front of me, he'll learn his lesson, and he won't do it again.
Damn nanny state expect us to watch out for everyone.
Who's watching out for us??
?I shouted fire in a crowded movie theater and they had the nerve to arrest ME for using my right to free speech.
No one was in any danger, as there wasn't a fire.
I was just yanking their chains.
What a bunch of humorless wussies we've become.Just the other day some cop told me I shouldn't drive while using my cell phone.
I said, "I can handle doing two things at once" and he whined about 'putting other drivers and pedestrians at risk'.There I am going to visit my pal Jim.
And THEY'RE watching me.
Why do they care that I'm visiting Jim?You know why they're doing all this?
Because they're onto me.
They know how important I am.
I know the truth, man.
Of the millions of people in my area, they're watching ME.
They have nothing better to do!
I'm the center of the damn universe and they know it.
I'm just trying to commit my crimes in peace.
Is that so wrong?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28651687</id>
	<title>Re:Stupid to commit a crime?</title>
	<author>juan2074</author>
	<datestamp>1247249100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe they need something like Slashdot for criminals.  I can see it now. . .

<br> <br>Those with the lowest UIDs will be the OGs.

<br> <br>Everyone tries to get modded up for their criminal escapades.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe they need something like Slashdot for criminals .
I can see it now .
. .
Those with the lowest UIDs will be the OGs .
Everyone tries to get modded up for their criminal escapades .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe they need something like Slashdot for criminals.
I can see it now.
. .
Those with the lowest UIDs will be the OGs.
Everyone tries to get modded up for their criminal escapades.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28652167</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>jipn4</author>
	<datestamp>1247251080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The name "Lancaster" (PA) is pre-revolutionary, so blame the British for it.  Other US cities were often named after it.</p><p>And if it's any consolations, many US cities chose native American names, French names, or entirely new names out of opposition to British rule and oppression.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The name " Lancaster " ( PA ) is pre-revolutionary , so blame the British for it .
Other US cities were often named after it.And if it 's any consolations , many US cities chose native American names , French names , or entirely new names out of opposition to British rule and oppression .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The name "Lancaster" (PA) is pre-revolutionary, so blame the British for it.
Other US cities were often named after it.And if it's any consolations, many US cities chose native American names, French names, or entirely new names out of opposition to British rule and oppression.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28651091</id>
	<title>Alan Parsons Project</title>
	<author>gaspyy</author>
	<datestamp>1247245800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am the eye in the sky<br>Looking at you<br>I can read your mind<br>I am the maker of rules<br>Dealing with fools<br>I can cheat you blind<br>And I don't need to see any more<br>To know that<br>I can read your mind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am the eye in the skyLooking at youI can read your mindI am the maker of rulesDealing with foolsI can cheat you blindAnd I do n't need to see any moreTo know thatI can read your mind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am the eye in the skyLooking at youI can read your mindI am the maker of rulesDealing with foolsI can cheat you blindAnd I don't need to see any moreTo know thatI can read your mind.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648955</id>
	<title>Not a very "green" approach</title>
	<author>glaese</author>
	<datestamp>1247237400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wouldn't it make more sense to use some sort of stationary balloon based platforms? Seems logical to start off that way at least.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't it make more sense to use some sort of stationary balloon based platforms ?
Seems logical to start off that way at least .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't it make more sense to use some sort of stationary balloon based platforms?
Seems logical to start off that way at least.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649421</id>
	<title>Re:bad idea + bad idea</title>
	<author>mspohr</author>
	<datestamp>1247239320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>US soldiers are not above firing on US citizens.  One well known incident is known as 'Kent State'... there are others.</htmltext>
<tokenext>US soldiers are not above firing on US citizens .
One well known incident is known as 'Kent State'... there are others .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>US soldiers are not above firing on US citizens.
One well known incident is known as 'Kent State'... there are others.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648909</id>
	<title>Agreed.</title>
	<author>Yvanhoe</author>
	<datestamp>1247237160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wholeheartedly agree. On the condition that the loop includes a trip above the Mayor's house and that all video feeds are released to the public.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wholeheartedly agree .
On the condition that the loop includes a trip above the Mayor 's house and that all video feeds are released to the public .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wholeheartedly agree.
On the condition that the loop includes a trip above the Mayor's house and that all video feeds are released to the public.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649527</id>
	<title>I want to be the guy that points the camera</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247239740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hello sunbathing Megan Foxx!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hello sunbathing Megan Foxx !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hello sunbathing Megan Foxx!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648873</id>
	<title>bad idea + bad idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247236980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The camera is an example of technology developed for and used by the military making a transition to civilian applications, Rutan said."</p></div><p>When you have the Military controling civilian security, the civilians become the enemy. This would normally just be a gross overstepping of the government, but to use it as a "transition" for EASing military is just crazy. Things are different in the Military. The rules, norms and expectations are completely different. You can't just take an MP out of the fleet, give him a badge and a gun, and expect him to take a squad car around the block with out incident.</p><p>-Rick</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The camera is an example of technology developed for and used by the military making a transition to civilian applications , Rutan said .
" When you have the Military controling civilian security , the civilians become the enemy .
This would normally just be a gross overstepping of the government , but to use it as a " transition " for EASing military is just crazy .
Things are different in the Military .
The rules , norms and expectations are completely different .
You ca n't just take an MP out of the fleet , give him a badge and a gun , and expect him to take a squad car around the block with out incident.-Rick</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The camera is an example of technology developed for and used by the military making a transition to civilian applications, Rutan said.
"When you have the Military controling civilian security, the civilians become the enemy.
This would normally just be a gross overstepping of the government, but to use it as a "transition" for EASing military is just crazy.
Things are different in the Military.
The rules, norms and expectations are completely different.
You can't just take an MP out of the fleet, give him a badge and a gun, and expect him to take a squad car around the block with out incident.-Rick
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28651319</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247246940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yea Minnesota comes from an American word.</p><p>Native american, that is... so I guess no, we stole em all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yea Minnesota comes from an American word.Native american , that is... so I guess no , we stole em all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yea Minnesota comes from an American word.Native american, that is... so I guess no, we stole em all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649605</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>G-Man</author>
	<datestamp>1247239980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Truth or Consequences! <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth\_or\_Consequences,\_New\_Mexico" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth\_or\_Consequences,\_New\_Mexico</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Truth or Consequences !
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth \ _or \ _Consequences , \ _New \ _Mexico [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Truth or Consequences!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth\_or\_Consequences,\_New\_Mexico [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650993</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>DNS-and-BIND</author>
	<datestamp>1247245320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't look now, but we stole your language, too.<p>
"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."<br>
-- James D. Nicoll</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't look now , but we stole your language , too .
" The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore .
We do n't just borrow words ; on occasion , English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary .
" -- James D. Nicoll</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't look now, but we stole your language, too.
"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore.
We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.
"
-- James D. Nicoll</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28653083</id>
	<title>Re:bad idea + bad idea</title>
	<author>moortak</author>
	<datestamp>1247254560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We already know that US military troops will kill civilians under the right circumstances.  Kent State University &amp; Jackson State proved that 39 years ago.  Given the right circumstances any group of human beings can commit acts that would be unthinkable for them in normal circumstances.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We already know that US military troops will kill civilians under the right circumstances .
Kent State University &amp; Jackson State proved that 39 years ago .
Given the right circumstances any group of human beings can commit acts that would be unthinkable for them in normal circumstances .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We already know that US military troops will kill civilians under the right circumstances.
Kent State University &amp; Jackson State proved that 39 years ago.
Given the right circumstances any group of human beings can commit acts that would be unthinkable for them in normal circumstances.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649227</id>
	<title>It should already be</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247238600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"It would be stupid to commit a crime."</i> <br> <br>It should already be stupid to commit a crime.  This guy seems to think that criminals don't believe laws are logical and beneficial.  If they are committing a crime, they have already decided they don't care about that.  A lot of crimes ARE stupid and are committed without regard to logic or consequence.  This guy seems to think criminals will suddenly start thinking twice.<br> <br>Look, you can't PREVENT crimes.  Even if you have a camera, you'll only just be watching one already in progress.  And if a criminal is worried about the camera, he will probably shoot it down.  With an unlicensed weapon, no doubt.  Way to go.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" It would be stupid to commit a crime .
" It should already be stupid to commit a crime .
This guy seems to think that criminals do n't believe laws are logical and beneficial .
If they are committing a crime , they have already decided they do n't care about that .
A lot of crimes ARE stupid and are committed without regard to logic or consequence .
This guy seems to think criminals will suddenly start thinking twice .
Look , you ca n't PREVENT crimes .
Even if you have a camera , you 'll only just be watching one already in progress .
And if a criminal is worried about the camera , he will probably shoot it down .
With an unlicensed weapon , no doubt .
Way to go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It would be stupid to commit a crime.
"  It should already be stupid to commit a crime.
This guy seems to think that criminals don't believe laws are logical and beneficial.
If they are committing a crime, they have already decided they don't care about that.
A lot of crimes ARE stupid and are committed without regard to logic or consequence.
This guy seems to think criminals will suddenly start thinking twice.
Look, you can't PREVENT crimes.
Even if you have a camera, you'll only just be watching one already in progress.
And if a criminal is worried about the camera, he will probably shoot it down.
With an unlicensed weapon, no doubt.
Way to go.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28652101</id>
	<title>Hah!</title>
	<author>ThatsNotPudding</author>
	<datestamp>1247250900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>'You never know when you are being watched or followed. It would be stupid to commit a crime. You see it with such detail,'


<br>
London (aka New Panopticon City) crime stats say you are a fool, Mr. Mayor.</htmltext>
<tokenext>'You never know when you are being watched or followed .
It would be stupid to commit a crime .
You see it with such detail, ' London ( aka New Panopticon City ) crime stats say you are a fool , Mr. Mayor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'You never know when you are being watched or followed.
It would be stupid to commit a crime.
You see it with such detail,'



London (aka New Panopticon City) crime stats say you are a fool, Mr. Mayor.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649213</id>
	<title>Stupid to commit a crime?</title>
	<author>bazorg</author>
	<datestamp>1247238540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It takes someone stupid to commit a crime? maybe someone with motivations that are hard to understand... Just yesterday on BBC3 we had interviews with 14-18 year old thugs who were really keen on their "street cred", their "reputation", the robbing and stabbing of other kids who ventured into their post code, and the appeal these activities have when looking for a girlfriend.<p>Not one seemed so keen on going to school or on avoiding the police. Actually, going to prison was part of the networking with other thugs and the reputation building. So yes, there could be an investment of millions on cameras that can even see through the &#194;&pound;5 hooded clothes but I don't think it will be much of a deterrent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It takes someone stupid to commit a crime ?
maybe someone with motivations that are hard to understand... Just yesterday on BBC3 we had interviews with 14-18 year old thugs who were really keen on their " street cred " , their " reputation " , the robbing and stabbing of other kids who ventured into their post code , and the appeal these activities have when looking for a girlfriend.Not one seemed so keen on going to school or on avoiding the police .
Actually , going to prison was part of the networking with other thugs and the reputation building .
So yes , there could be an investment of millions on cameras that can even see through the     5 hooded clothes but I do n't think it will be much of a deterrent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It takes someone stupid to commit a crime?
maybe someone with motivations that are hard to understand... Just yesterday on BBC3 we had interviews with 14-18 year old thugs who were really keen on their "street cred", their "reputation", the robbing and stabbing of other kids who ventured into their post code, and the appeal these activities have when looking for a girlfriend.Not one seemed so keen on going to school or on avoiding the police.
Actually, going to prison was part of the networking with other thugs and the reputation building.
So yes, there could be an investment of millions on cameras that can even see through the Â£5 hooded clothes but I don't think it will be much of a deterrent.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648927</id>
	<title>Stupid is as stupid does</title>
	<author>NonUniqueNickname</author>
	<datestamp>1247237220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It would be stupid to commit a crime.</p></div><p>It would be stupid to spell Paris with two R's. And Rex Paris is a stupid name, don't you know what happened to the last king in Paris?

Stupid's sticking power doesn't come from logic, au contraire, stupid defies logic.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It would be stupid to commit a crime.It would be stupid to spell Paris with two R 's .
And Rex Paris is a stupid name , do n't you know what happened to the last king in Paris ?
Stupid 's sticking power does n't come from logic , au contraire , stupid defies logic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would be stupid to commit a crime.It would be stupid to spell Paris with two R's.
And Rex Paris is a stupid name, don't you know what happened to the last king in Paris?
Stupid's sticking power doesn't come from logic, au contraire, stupid defies logic.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28653697</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>ksheff</author>
	<datestamp>1247257020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Paragould?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Paragould ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Paragould?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650771</id>
	<title>Re:Next step</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1247244540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...made of tinfoil!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...made of tinfoil !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...made of tinfoil!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648877</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649477</id>
	<title>Re:Next step</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247239500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The British Skinhead Brolly Boys will be the next big thing in organized crime</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The British Skinhead Brolly Boys will be the next big thing in organized crime</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The British Skinhead Brolly Boys will be the next big thing in organized crime</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649817</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>Attila Dimedici</author>
	<datestamp>1247240880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, New York, New Jersey, those were both named by the British, so it wasn't stealing. Additionally there is Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, etc.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , New York , New Jersey , those were both named by the British , so it was n't stealing .
Additionally there is Pennsylvania , Massachusetts , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, New York, New Jersey, those were both named by the British, so it wasn't stealing.
Additionally there is Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28679871</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247511720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess that these officials in Lancaster never heard of a little area of Riverside, CA called Casa Blanca.  They tried to shoot down a police helicopter there.  They'd start a Death Pool on a little unmanned drone flying around a neighborhood.  I can't imagine that Lancaster villains are very much less vicious, and if anyone actually flies a Cessna on this task, I hope they have a lot of evasion experience.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess that these officials in Lancaster never heard of a little area of Riverside , CA called Casa Blanca .
They tried to shoot down a police helicopter there .
They 'd start a Death Pool on a little unmanned drone flying around a neighborhood .
I ca n't imagine that Lancaster villains are very much less vicious , and if anyone actually flies a Cessna on this task , I hope they have a lot of evasion experience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess that these officials in Lancaster never heard of a little area of Riverside, CA called Casa Blanca.
They tried to shoot down a police helicopter there.
They'd start a Death Pool on a little unmanned drone flying around a neighborhood.
I can't imagine that Lancaster villains are very much less vicious, and if anyone actually flies a Cessna on this task, I hope they have a lot of evasion experience.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28653535</id>
	<title>Fix the Cops First</title>
	<author>Doc Ruby</author>
	<datestamp>1247256420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they spent that time and money making their cops do their jobs better, and commit less of their own crimes (bribery, brutality, neglect), they'd get a more crime reduction, more public safety, more public trust, and for a lot smaller budget.</p><p>They should start with 100\% cop surveillance. Every cop gets 100\% of their time on-duty (minus their protected bathroom breaks, when their partner logs their removing their badge for the duration) recorded in 360-degree video. Then, instead of typing paperwork, they can just voice-annotate their video records, on fast-forward to the important parts. All the good cops will have easier jobs, especially when sending the videos as evidence instead of testifying in most cases (and seeing their word supported by video). The bad cops will have a harder time. And the police department will still get to play with expensive hi-tech toys, if not quite the science-fiction ones that cost more and do less, while violating our privacy rights.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they spent that time and money making their cops do their jobs better , and commit less of their own crimes ( bribery , brutality , neglect ) , they 'd get a more crime reduction , more public safety , more public trust , and for a lot smaller budget.They should start with 100 \ % cop surveillance .
Every cop gets 100 \ % of their time on-duty ( minus their protected bathroom breaks , when their partner logs their removing their badge for the duration ) recorded in 360-degree video .
Then , instead of typing paperwork , they can just voice-annotate their video records , on fast-forward to the important parts .
All the good cops will have easier jobs , especially when sending the videos as evidence instead of testifying in most cases ( and seeing their word supported by video ) .
The bad cops will have a harder time .
And the police department will still get to play with expensive hi-tech toys , if not quite the science-fiction ones that cost more and do less , while violating our privacy rights .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they spent that time and money making their cops do their jobs better, and commit less of their own crimes (bribery, brutality, neglect), they'd get a more crime reduction, more public safety, more public trust, and for a lot smaller budget.They should start with 100\% cop surveillance.
Every cop gets 100\% of their time on-duty (minus their protected bathroom breaks, when their partner logs their removing their badge for the duration) recorded in 360-degree video.
Then, instead of typing paperwork, they can just voice-annotate their video records, on fast-forward to the important parts.
All the good cops will have easier jobs, especially when sending the videos as evidence instead of testifying in most cases (and seeing their word supported by video).
The bad cops will have a harder time.
And the police department will still get to play with expensive hi-tech toys, if not quite the science-fiction ones that cost more and do less, while violating our privacy rights.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650095</id>
	<title>Re:Next step</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247241900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Penguin forsaw this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Penguin forsaw this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Penguin forsaw this.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648937</id>
	<title>Time to take out the old laser...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247237280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder how hard it would be to shoot these things out of the sky.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how hard it would be to shoot these things out of the sky .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how hard it would be to shoot these things out of the sky.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649311</id>
	<title>What is it about cities named Lancaster?</title>
	<author>Attila Dimedici</author>
	<datestamp>1247238840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I want to know what it is about cities named Lancaster that leads them to think that monitoring everyone's activities is a good idea? A couple of weeks ago we had a story about Lancaster, Pa having the most cameras per capita monitoring for crime and now we have Lancaster, Ca putting an eye in the sky.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I want to know what it is about cities named Lancaster that leads them to think that monitoring everyone 's activities is a good idea ?
A couple of weeks ago we had a story about Lancaster , Pa having the most cameras per capita monitoring for crime and now we have Lancaster , Ca putting an eye in the sky .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want to know what it is about cities named Lancaster that leads them to think that monitoring everyone's activities is a good idea?
A couple of weeks ago we had a story about Lancaster, Pa having the most cameras per capita monitoring for crime and now we have Lancaster, Ca putting an eye in the sky.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28652249</id>
	<title>Blackmail</title>
	<author>Merovign</author>
	<datestamp>1247251380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The blackmail possibilities are endless. Not everything embarrassing is illegal, but they can still be used for fundraising!</p><p>Just think of all the budgets that could be balanced. Or, you know, pockets lined.</p><p>It was kind of inevitable, but I'd hoped it would arrive later.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The blackmail possibilities are endless .
Not everything embarrassing is illegal , but they can still be used for fundraising ! Just think of all the budgets that could be balanced .
Or , you know , pockets lined.It was kind of inevitable , but I 'd hoped it would arrive later .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The blackmail possibilities are endless.
Not everything embarrassing is illegal, but they can still be used for fundraising!Just think of all the budgets that could be balanced.
Or, you know, pockets lined.It was kind of inevitable, but I'd hoped it would arrive later.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650341</id>
	<title>Re:Why Lancaster?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247242860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The sheep disagree.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The sheep disagree .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The sheep disagree.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28652651</id>
	<title>Re:Just because you can doesn't mean you should</title>
	<author>Reziac</author>
	<datestamp>1247253000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Crime rate here is about 3x the national average, but right in line with the rest of California, so that is just a thin excuse. This is about the mayor's power trip, not crime. See my posts above.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Crime rate here is about 3x the national average , but right in line with the rest of California , so that is just a thin excuse .
This is about the mayor 's power trip , not crime .
See my posts above .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Crime rate here is about 3x the national average, but right in line with the rest of California, so that is just a thin excuse.
This is about the mayor's power trip, not crime.
See my posts above.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649939</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>tomzyk</author>
	<datestamp>1247241300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dude, we have stuff from all over the world: people, ideas, religions, languages... why not names too?<br>Or did you actually mean to ask if there was any LAND we didn't steal? XD</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , we have stuff from all over the world : people , ideas , religions , languages... why not names too ? Or did you actually mean to ask if there was any LAND we did n't steal ?
XD</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, we have stuff from all over the world: people, ideas, religions, languages... why not names too?Or did you actually mean to ask if there was any LAND we didn't steal?
XD</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28651909</id>
	<title>Re:Stupid to commit a crime?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247250180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>It takes someone stupid to commit a crime? maybe someone with motivations that are hard to understand... Just yesterday on BBC3 we had interviews with 14-18 year old thugs who were really keen on their "street cred", their "reputation", the robbing and stabbing of other kids who ventured into their post code, and the appeal these activities have when looking for a girlfriend.</i></p><p>We need harsher deterents to crime. My solution is in no way socially acceptable, nor is it probably even legal given the absurd level of civil rights criminal still enjoy in many societies, but it would work. Sterilize the criminals, so they don't reproduce: ever.</p><p>Castrate the young lad who thinks it's "cool" to rob, stab, or slash, and can't keep his testosterone under control. A young man may not give a damn about his life or his future, but even *he* wants to keep his balls. A young lady many think crime is great, but the drive to have children is one of the strongest things in most women's lives.</p><p>It would solve so many issues at one stroke:  fewer deadbeat dads teaching their criminal behaviour to children they didn't want in the first place, fewer single mothers on child support, and a massive disincentive to reputation building.</p><p>It's hard to imagine some teen thug bragging to his would be girlfriend: "Hey, baby! I've been to JAIL! I've got NO BALLS, and I can't get it up! Oh, yeah! I'm a badass!"</p><p>Then again, people say I'm too harsh on crime. Go figure.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)<br>--<br>AC</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It takes someone stupid to commit a crime ?
maybe someone with motivations that are hard to understand... Just yesterday on BBC3 we had interviews with 14-18 year old thugs who were really keen on their " street cred " , their " reputation " , the robbing and stabbing of other kids who ventured into their post code , and the appeal these activities have when looking for a girlfriend.We need harsher deterents to crime .
My solution is in no way socially acceptable , nor is it probably even legal given the absurd level of civil rights criminal still enjoy in many societies , but it would work .
Sterilize the criminals , so they do n't reproduce : ever.Castrate the young lad who thinks it 's " cool " to rob , stab , or slash , and ca n't keep his testosterone under control .
A young man may not give a damn about his life or his future , but even * he * wants to keep his balls .
A young lady many think crime is great , but the drive to have children is one of the strongest things in most women 's lives.It would solve so many issues at one stroke : fewer deadbeat dads teaching their criminal behaviour to children they did n't want in the first place , fewer single mothers on child support , and a massive disincentive to reputation building.It 's hard to imagine some teen thug bragging to his would be girlfriend : " Hey , baby !
I 've been to JAIL !
I 've got NO BALLS , and I ca n't get it up !
Oh , yeah !
I 'm a badass !
" Then again , people say I 'm too harsh on crime .
Go figure .
: - ) --AC</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It takes someone stupid to commit a crime?
maybe someone with motivations that are hard to understand... Just yesterday on BBC3 we had interviews with 14-18 year old thugs who were really keen on their "street cred", their "reputation", the robbing and stabbing of other kids who ventured into their post code, and the appeal these activities have when looking for a girlfriend.We need harsher deterents to crime.
My solution is in no way socially acceptable, nor is it probably even legal given the absurd level of civil rights criminal still enjoy in many societies, but it would work.
Sterilize the criminals, so they don't reproduce: ever.Castrate the young lad who thinks it's "cool" to rob, stab, or slash, and can't keep his testosterone under control.
A young man may not give a damn about his life or his future, but even *he* wants to keep his balls.
A young lady many think crime is great, but the drive to have children is one of the strongest things in most women's lives.It would solve so many issues at one stroke:  fewer deadbeat dads teaching their criminal behaviour to children they didn't want in the first place, fewer single mothers on child support, and a massive disincentive to reputation building.It's hard to imagine some teen thug bragging to his would be girlfriend: "Hey, baby!
I've been to JAIL!
I've got NO BALLS, and I can't get it up!
Oh, yeah!
I'm a badass!
"Then again, people say I'm too harsh on crime.
Go figure.
:-)--AC</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28651505</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>An ominous Cow art</author>
	<datestamp>1247248020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't say that, don't even type it!  Do you want to summon Him back from the unholy depths of interstellar space to which He was banished by the Elder Gods, eons before life arose upon Earth?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't say that , do n't even type it !
Do you want to summon Him back from the unholy depths of interstellar space to which He was banished by the Elder Gods , eons before life arose upon Earth ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't say that, don't even type it!
Do you want to summon Him back from the unholy depths of interstellar space to which He was banished by the Elder Gods, eons before life arose upon Earth?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649017</id>
	<title>Big brother</title>
	<author>7-Vodka</author>
	<datestamp>1247237700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You never know when you are being watched or followed. It would be stupid to commit a crime.</p></div><p>
When people in positions of authority start talking this way watch out because here comes big brother. </p><p>
Fuck, I'm dissapointed in this half-hearted scheme. Why don't you just skip to the endgame and implant every one of your citizens with mood-altering gps tracking chips that transmit constant video and sound feeds of whatever they're seeing and hearing? I'll put money on the table that when the technology for that exists, there will be people in power who want to do it and general public who won't fight it.</p><p>
I wish we could just hurry up and split species so that those who don't care can turn into HG Wells-like eloitards.
</p><p>
On another note, it doesn't matter that it's a plane, other cities like NY already use those and they're attached to blimps. So I'm sorry to tell this silly mayor that he won't be the first.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You never know when you are being watched or followed .
It would be stupid to commit a crime .
When people in positions of authority start talking this way watch out because here comes big brother .
Fuck , I 'm dissapointed in this half-hearted scheme .
Why do n't you just skip to the endgame and implant every one of your citizens with mood-altering gps tracking chips that transmit constant video and sound feeds of whatever they 're seeing and hearing ?
I 'll put money on the table that when the technology for that exists , there will be people in power who want to do it and general public who wo n't fight it .
I wish we could just hurry up and split species so that those who do n't care can turn into HG Wells-like eloitards .
On another note , it does n't matter that it 's a plane , other cities like NY already use those and they 're attached to blimps .
So I 'm sorry to tell this silly mayor that he wo n't be the first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You never know when you are being watched or followed.
It would be stupid to commit a crime.
When people in positions of authority start talking this way watch out because here comes big brother.
Fuck, I'm dissapointed in this half-hearted scheme.
Why don't you just skip to the endgame and implant every one of your citizens with mood-altering gps tracking chips that transmit constant video and sound feeds of whatever they're seeing and hearing?
I'll put money on the table that when the technology for that exists, there will be people in power who want to do it and general public who won't fight it.
I wish we could just hurry up and split species so that those who don't care can turn into HG Wells-like eloitards.
On another note, it doesn't matter that it's a plane, other cities like NY already use those and they're attached to blimps.
So I'm sorry to tell this silly mayor that he won't be the first.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650101</id>
	<title>Shoot first, ask later</title>
	<author>doishmere</author>
	<datestamp>1247241960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ideally, this wouldn't exist. Less ideally, access to the film would require a court order, but...  realistically, the film should be publicly accessible to anyone, anytime, and all records should be destroyed within a certain number of days.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ideally , this would n't exist .
Less ideally , access to the film would require a court order , but... realistically , the film should be publicly accessible to anyone , anytime , and all records should be destroyed within a certain number of days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ideally, this wouldn't exist.
Less ideally, access to the film would require a court order, but...  realistically, the film should be publicly accessible to anyone, anytime, and all records should be destroyed within a certain number of days.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28659517</id>
	<title>Re:Alan Parsons Project</title>
	<author>crtreece</author>
	<datestamp>1247323560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll see your APP Eye in the Sky, and raise you 1 Judas Priest <a href="http://www.lyricsfreak.com/j/judas+priest/electric+eye\_20076160.html" title="lyricsfreak.com" rel="nofollow">Electric Eye</a> [lyricsfreak.com].

Up here in space
Im looking down on you
My lasers trace
Everything you do

You think you've private lives
Think nothing of the kind
There is no true escape
I'm watching all the time</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll see your APP Eye in the Sky , and raise you 1 Judas Priest Electric Eye [ lyricsfreak.com ] .
Up here in space Im looking down on you My lasers trace Everything you do You think you 've private lives Think nothing of the kind There is no true escape I 'm watching all the time</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll see your APP Eye in the Sky, and raise you 1 Judas Priest Electric Eye [lyricsfreak.com].
Up here in space
Im looking down on you
My lasers trace
Everything you do

You think you've private lives
Think nothing of the kind
There is no true escape
I'm watching all the time</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28653793</id>
	<title>Re:Lancaster needs the tech</title>
	<author>misexistentialist</author>
	<datestamp>1247257500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A neighborhood watch (preferably armed) along with things like secure garages and barred windows would have been a better solution. A way for people to exercise their freedom, rather than surrender it. Unless there are cannibalistic packs roaming the streets, installing cameras to partially imprison the populace is not worth it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A neighborhood watch ( preferably armed ) along with things like secure garages and barred windows would have been a better solution .
A way for people to exercise their freedom , rather than surrender it .
Unless there are cannibalistic packs roaming the streets , installing cameras to partially imprison the populace is not worth it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A neighborhood watch (preferably armed) along with things like secure garages and barred windows would have been a better solution.
A way for people to exercise their freedom, rather than surrender it.
Unless there are cannibalistic packs roaming the streets, installing cameras to partially imprison the populace is not worth it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649187</id>
	<title>Re:bad idea + bad idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247238480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This tech, like many before it, is moving from military to civil. It is not controlled by the military.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This tech , like many before it , is moving from military to civil .
It is not controlled by the military .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This tech, like many before it, is moving from military to civil.
It is not controlled by the military.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648889</id>
	<title>Worst idea ever</title>
	<author>moogied</author>
	<datestamp>1247237100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Criminals rarely think "Gee... I sure hope no one sees me do this!" they think "Gee... I sure hope I can get the hell away from the scene before a cop gets me.".  Having something floating around would require several things to actually work:
<p>
1. Someone to know the crime is happening and thus record it, send cops over, and prevent it.<br>
2. No blind spots(good luck on a roaming platform. Last I checked, buildings still are 3d and thus will cause blind spots.<br>
3. The criminals not to take the most basic of all precautions to hide there identity(sky masks aren't exactly hard to make or buy.).</p><p>
So, in conclusion, it looks like some dumb ass company built this device and decided to market it to whatever sucker they could find.  World keeps on turning.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Criminals rarely think " Gee... I sure hope no one sees me do this !
" they think " Gee... I sure hope I can get the hell away from the scene before a cop gets me. " .
Having something floating around would require several things to actually work : 1 .
Someone to know the crime is happening and thus record it , send cops over , and prevent it .
2. No blind spots ( good luck on a roaming platform .
Last I checked , buildings still are 3d and thus will cause blind spots .
3. The criminals not to take the most basic of all precautions to hide there identity ( sky masks are n't exactly hard to make or buy. ) .
So , in conclusion , it looks like some dumb ass company built this device and decided to market it to whatever sucker they could find .
World keeps on turning .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Criminals rarely think "Gee... I sure hope no one sees me do this!
" they think "Gee... I sure hope I can get the hell away from the scene before a cop gets me.".
Having something floating around would require several things to actually work:

1.
Someone to know the crime is happening and thus record it, send cops over, and prevent it.
2. No blind spots(good luck on a roaming platform.
Last I checked, buildings still are 3d and thus will cause blind spots.
3. The criminals not to take the most basic of all precautions to hide there identity(sky masks aren't exactly hard to make or buy.).
So, in conclusion, it looks like some dumb ass company built this device and decided to market it to whatever sucker they could find.
World keeps on turning.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649945</id>
	<title>Re:bad idea + bad idea</title>
	<author>plague3106</author>
	<datestamp>1247241300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I  know there are plenty of examples throughout history where the military has quelled it's own populace, but I would like to think that US troops would hopefully be above that. I never understood this mentality, the one where the people you're protecting aboard are all the sudden worthless and you should beat the crap out of them, or worse, slaughter them. I'm sure someone has researched it fully, but honestly, I don't get it.</i></p><p>Ya, ok, American human beings are different than ALL OTHER HUMAN BEINGS BEFORE THEM.  Sure, stick your head in the sand all you want.. our Founders fortunately had more forethought.  US troops would simply do what Chinese troops did in Tianemen Square; the divisions brought it were from the other side of China, and thus no ties to the locals they were quelling.</p><p><i>I served for 5 years in the Marine Corps, and obviously I was never faced with this situation, but I would hope that I would see through the B.S. and refuse unlawful orders that asked me to harm the civilian populace. (defending yourself from attack is another situation though.)</i></p><p>You would simply be arrested by the MPs.  Unfortunately, theres already been research showing that if told to hurt someone else by someone in authority, they likely will.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know there are plenty of examples throughout history where the military has quelled it 's own populace , but I would like to think that US troops would hopefully be above that .
I never understood this mentality , the one where the people you 're protecting aboard are all the sudden worthless and you should beat the crap out of them , or worse , slaughter them .
I 'm sure someone has researched it fully , but honestly , I do n't get it.Ya , ok , American human beings are different than ALL OTHER HUMAN BEINGS BEFORE THEM .
Sure , stick your head in the sand all you want.. our Founders fortunately had more forethought .
US troops would simply do what Chinese troops did in Tianemen Square ; the divisions brought it were from the other side of China , and thus no ties to the locals they were quelling.I served for 5 years in the Marine Corps , and obviously I was never faced with this situation , but I would hope that I would see through the B.S .
and refuse unlawful orders that asked me to harm the civilian populace .
( defending yourself from attack is another situation though .
) You would simply be arrested by the MPs .
Unfortunately , theres already been research showing that if told to hurt someone else by someone in authority , they likely will .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I  know there are plenty of examples throughout history where the military has quelled it's own populace, but I would like to think that US troops would hopefully be above that.
I never understood this mentality, the one where the people you're protecting aboard are all the sudden worthless and you should beat the crap out of them, or worse, slaughter them.
I'm sure someone has researched it fully, but honestly, I don't get it.Ya, ok, American human beings are different than ALL OTHER HUMAN BEINGS BEFORE THEM.
Sure, stick your head in the sand all you want.. our Founders fortunately had more forethought.
US troops would simply do what Chinese troops did in Tianemen Square; the divisions brought it were from the other side of China, and thus no ties to the locals they were quelling.I served for 5 years in the Marine Corps, and obviously I was never faced with this situation, but I would hope that I would see through the B.S.
and refuse unlawful orders that asked me to harm the civilian populace.
(defending yourself from attack is another situation though.
)You would simply be arrested by the MPs.
Unfortunately, theres already been research showing that if told to hurt someone else by someone in authority, they likely will.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649845</id>
	<title>Security Theater</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247241000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Security theater are actions that make you feel secure, but have no actual affect.  In Great Britain they have installed over three million surveillance cameras.  Arrests have increased, but the crime rate is still the same.</p><p>The problem we have is not an inability to arrest people.  Our problem is that we do not know what to do with people after they are arrested.  Arial surveillance. will give companies fat contract and get politicians re-elected, but it will not increase our safety.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Security theater are actions that make you feel secure , but have no actual affect .
In Great Britain they have installed over three million surveillance cameras .
Arrests have increased , but the crime rate is still the same.The problem we have is not an inability to arrest people .
Our problem is that we do not know what to do with people after they are arrested .
Arial surveillance .
will give companies fat contract and get politicians re-elected , but it will not increase our safety .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Security theater are actions that make you feel secure, but have no actual affect.
In Great Britain they have installed over three million surveillance cameras.
Arrests have increased, but the crime rate is still the same.The problem we have is not an inability to arrest people.
Our problem is that we do not know what to do with people after they are arrested.
Arial surveillance.
will give companies fat contract and get politicians re-elected, but it will not increase our safety.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648965</id>
	<title>Politicians do this shit to look relevant</title>
	<author>denis-The-menace</author>
	<datestamp>1247237400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Politicians do this shit to look relevant. So that at re-election time they can go: "see, see. We are all better off because of what *I* did."</p><p>Meanwhile cities can't even figure how to save money on the boring stuff. (printing double sided, prevent duplication of work, retuning wrongly ordered stuff to vendors, selling instead of trashing old assets...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Politicians do this shit to look relevant .
So that at re-election time they can go : " see , see .
We are all better off because of what * I * did .
" Meanwhile cities ca n't even figure how to save money on the boring stuff .
( printing double sided , prevent duplication of work , retuning wrongly ordered stuff to vendors , selling instead of trashing old assets... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Politicians do this shit to look relevant.
So that at re-election time they can go: "see, see.
We are all better off because of what *I* did.
"Meanwhile cities can't even figure how to save money on the boring stuff.
(printing double sided, prevent duplication of work, retuning wrongly ordered stuff to vendors, selling instead of trashing old assets...)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649351</id>
	<title>fallout</title>
	<author>zogger</author>
	<datestamp>1247238960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the video feed was open to the public, it wouldn't be long before there would be clips of the mayor's butt crack showing up on youtube, as he bent over to work in his garden, or the city council folks walking their dogs and letting them take a dump on neighbor's lawns, or local fatcat businessmen passed out drunk in their back yards, all the local cop cars on patrol making illegal left turns at stoplights, etc.</p><p>The spy in the sky program would end pronto then.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the video feed was open to the public , it would n't be long before there would be clips of the mayor 's butt crack showing up on youtube , as he bent over to work in his garden , or the city council folks walking their dogs and letting them take a dump on neighbor 's lawns , or local fatcat businessmen passed out drunk in their back yards , all the local cop cars on patrol making illegal left turns at stoplights , etc.The spy in the sky program would end pronto then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the video feed was open to the public, it wouldn't be long before there would be clips of the mayor's butt crack showing up on youtube, as he bent over to work in his garden, or the city council folks walking their dogs and letting them take a dump on neighbor's lawns, or local fatcat businessmen passed out drunk in their back yards, all the local cop cars on patrol making illegal left turns at stoplights, etc.The spy in the sky program would end pronto then.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28664291</id>
	<title>FAA says: LOLZ</title>
	<author>cemulli</author>
	<datestamp>1247316300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A lot of police departments want these new toys, and there are a lot of companies making these things. Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) are already used for border patrol. One of these border patrol UAVs (a Predator B) <a href="http://blog.seattlepi.com/aerospace/archives/123808.asp" title="seattlepi.com" rel="nofollow">crashed in 2006</a> [seattlepi.com]. Safety concerns + excessive surveillance concerns = fun for the whole family. </p><p>
I've been looking into this stuff because my hometown is trying to get permission for this too. The one my hometown is testing out is a helicopter equipped with a regular camera and an infrared camera. They can't fly it over populated areas yet.</p><p>
Regulatory thing: The FAA's current view of UAVs is that they can't be used over populated areas. Period. BUT, you guys in Houston and Miami should probably look up and wave every now and then, because the <a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/unmanned-aerial-vehicles-law-enforcement-operations" title="nowpublic.com" rel="nofollow">Houston and Miami area police departments</a> [nowpublic.com] got clearance from the FAA to fly their UAVs over these urban areas. The FAA isn't planning on revising their policy on UAV use in civilian airspace until at least 2010, but Houston and Miami are basically test areas to help them figure out what sort of regulations would be needed. You guys feel safer yet?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A lot of police departments want these new toys , and there are a lot of companies making these things .
Unmanned Aerial Vehicles ( UAVs ) are already used for border patrol .
One of these border patrol UAVs ( a Predator B ) crashed in 2006 [ seattlepi.com ] .
Safety concerns + excessive surveillance concerns = fun for the whole family .
I 've been looking into this stuff because my hometown is trying to get permission for this too .
The one my hometown is testing out is a helicopter equipped with a regular camera and an infrared camera .
They ca n't fly it over populated areas yet .
Regulatory thing : The FAA 's current view of UAVs is that they ca n't be used over populated areas .
Period. BUT , you guys in Houston and Miami should probably look up and wave every now and then , because the Houston and Miami area police departments [ nowpublic.com ] got clearance from the FAA to fly their UAVs over these urban areas .
The FAA is n't planning on revising their policy on UAV use in civilian airspace until at least 2010 , but Houston and Miami are basically test areas to help them figure out what sort of regulations would be needed .
You guys feel safer yet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lot of police departments want these new toys, and there are a lot of companies making these things.
Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) are already used for border patrol.
One of these border patrol UAVs (a Predator B) crashed in 2006 [seattlepi.com].
Safety concerns + excessive surveillance concerns = fun for the whole family.
I've been looking into this stuff because my hometown is trying to get permission for this too.
The one my hometown is testing out is a helicopter equipped with a regular camera and an infrared camera.
They can't fly it over populated areas yet.
Regulatory thing: The FAA's current view of UAVs is that they can't be used over populated areas.
Period. BUT, you guys in Houston and Miami should probably look up and wave every now and then, because the Houston and Miami area police departments [nowpublic.com] got clearance from the FAA to fly their UAVs over these urban areas.
The FAA isn't planning on revising their policy on UAV use in civilian airspace until at least 2010, but Houston and Miami are basically test areas to help them figure out what sort of regulations would be needed.
You guys feel safer yet?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650685</id>
	<title>Learn me a book!</title>
	<author>Astabon</author>
	<datestamp>1247244180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lancaster is a sprawling desert crap hole 'ex-urb' of LA in the middle of the Antelope Valley and has gotten progressively, socially worse over the years.  I should know, I lived there for 10 years.  Graduated High School there 20 years ago.

What we need to do is invest this surveillance money in education, jobs, training, social services, etc.  Keeping your citizens smart, happy, and working is the best way to deter crime, IMHO.  Not some spy plane.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lancaster is a sprawling desert crap hole 'ex-urb ' of LA in the middle of the Antelope Valley and has gotten progressively , socially worse over the years .
I should know , I lived there for 10 years .
Graduated High School there 20 years ago .
What we need to do is invest this surveillance money in education , jobs , training , social services , etc .
Keeping your citizens smart , happy , and working is the best way to deter crime , IMHO .
Not some spy plane .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lancaster is a sprawling desert crap hole 'ex-urb' of LA in the middle of the Antelope Valley and has gotten progressively, socially worse over the years.
I should know, I lived there for 10 years.
Graduated High School there 20 years ago.
What we need to do is invest this surveillance money in education, jobs, training, social services, etc.
Keeping your citizens smart, happy, and working is the best way to deter crime, IMHO.
Not some spy plane.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648989</id>
	<title>Just because you can doesn't mean you should</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247237580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is crime so bad in Lancaster that people are willing to be monitored constantly? Do they really find the expense of operating such a system worthwhile? Is it a better use of funds than giving raises to teachers, improving roads, reducing sales tax, offering a college scholarship program, or any of the countless other good things that could be done with the money?</p><p>Who makes sure this system is used responsibly, and not for the mayor to see what his wife does while he's at work, or to see how often his opponent heads to the local bar?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is crime so bad in Lancaster that people are willing to be monitored constantly ?
Do they really find the expense of operating such a system worthwhile ?
Is it a better use of funds than giving raises to teachers , improving roads , reducing sales tax , offering a college scholarship program , or any of the countless other good things that could be done with the money ? Who makes sure this system is used responsibly , and not for the mayor to see what his wife does while he 's at work , or to see how often his opponent heads to the local bar ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is crime so bad in Lancaster that people are willing to be monitored constantly?
Do they really find the expense of operating such a system worthwhile?
Is it a better use of funds than giving raises to teachers, improving roads, reducing sales tax, offering a college scholarship program, or any of the countless other good things that could be done with the money?Who makes sure this system is used responsibly, and not for the mayor to see what his wife does while he's at work, or to see how often his opponent heads to the local bar?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650763</id>
	<title>A high-tech camera with wings...</title>
	<author>macraig</author>
	<datestamp>1247244480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... is of little use unless you know precisely where to point it, eh?  Is it also clairvoyant, or can it pick up a "criminal vibe" so that it knows where to zoom in?</p><p>If not, it will not help catch the smart crooks.  All it might do is help catch the dumb ones, who are inevitably gonna get nabbed anyway because they're dumb and are in the wrong line of work for dumb people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... is of little use unless you know precisely where to point it , eh ?
Is it also clairvoyant , or can it pick up a " criminal vibe " so that it knows where to zoom in ? If not , it will not help catch the smart crooks .
All it might do is help catch the dumb ones , who are inevitably gon na get nabbed anyway because they 're dumb and are in the wrong line of work for dumb people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... is of little use unless you know precisely where to point it, eh?
Is it also clairvoyant, or can it pick up a "criminal vibe" so that it knows where to zoom in?If not, it will not help catch the smart crooks.
All it might do is help catch the dumb ones, who are inevitably gonna get nabbed anyway because they're dumb and are in the wrong line of work for dumb people.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648975</id>
	<title>Solution: Move.</title>
	<author>quangdog</author>
	<datestamp>1247237460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When a company does something stupid or draconian, I take my business elsewhere.
<br> <br>
If the city I lived in started doing this, I'd move and take my tax revenue with me (paltry as it may be).
<br> <br>
Interesting sidenote:  This morning on the way to work I heard on the radio that California is in even bigger financial trouble now:  Banks are no longer honoring the state tax refund IOU's, student grants are no longer being paid, people on all sorts of state-run social welfare programs are no longer receiving the assistance they are used to, etc.
<br> <br>
Why don't we hear of more people fleeing the state in droves?  I've never lived in CA, but if I did the decision to move would be a simple one.  The state government is bankrupt, and now they want to monitor me from the sky in hi-def all the time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When a company does something stupid or draconian , I take my business elsewhere .
If the city I lived in started doing this , I 'd move and take my tax revenue with me ( paltry as it may be ) .
Interesting sidenote : This morning on the way to work I heard on the radio that California is in even bigger financial trouble now : Banks are no longer honoring the state tax refund IOU 's , student grants are no longer being paid , people on all sorts of state-run social welfare programs are no longer receiving the assistance they are used to , etc .
Why do n't we hear of more people fleeing the state in droves ?
I 've never lived in CA , but if I did the decision to move would be a simple one .
The state government is bankrupt , and now they want to monitor me from the sky in hi-def all the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When a company does something stupid or draconian, I take my business elsewhere.
If the city I lived in started doing this, I'd move and take my tax revenue with me (paltry as it may be).
Interesting sidenote:  This morning on the way to work I heard on the radio that California is in even bigger financial trouble now:  Banks are no longer honoring the state tax refund IOU's, student grants are no longer being paid, people on all sorts of state-run social welfare programs are no longer receiving the assistance they are used to, etc.
Why don't we hear of more people fleeing the state in droves?
I've never lived in CA, but if I did the decision to move would be a simple one.
The state government is bankrupt, and now they want to monitor me from the sky in hi-def all the time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649361</id>
	<title>East &amp; West Coast Lancasters</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247239020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>does it strike anyone else as odd that two of the more "big brother" cities in America recently are both named Lancaster (PA &amp; CA)?</p><p>http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local/pa/20090706\_Plenty\_of\_cameras\_monitor\_55\_000\_Lancaster\_residents.html</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>does it strike anyone else as odd that two of the more " big brother " cities in America recently are both named Lancaster ( PA &amp; CA ) ? http : //www.philly.com/inquirer/local/pa/20090706 \ _Plenty \ _of \ _cameras \ _monitor \ _55 \ _000 \ _Lancaster \ _residents.html</tokentext>
<sentencetext>does it strike anyone else as odd that two of the more "big brother" cities in America recently are both named Lancaster (PA &amp; CA)?http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local/pa/20090706\_Plenty\_of\_cameras\_monitor\_55\_000\_Lancaster\_residents.html</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650717</id>
	<title>Re:Just because you can doesn't mean you should</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247244300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I moved to Lancaster a year ago.  The there is a local prison on the west side and the upper east side is mostly homes that look so run down, they could easily be crack houses or meth labs.  The local paper reports about 10-20 crimes a week on the 'police blotter' section, ranging from theft to breaking and entering, and just last month, two murders, although I think those were down in Palmdale.  They are not really centrally located on the upper east side as you might expect, but a lot of crime does occur there.</p><p>The long term locals here appear to be extremely resentful of the way their city has been transformed from a rural home town where everyone knew one another (30-40 years ago) to a sprawling strip mall service oriented city it is today.  The defense industry has run this town, as most people are married to or know someone who works at Edwards AFB near by.  The mayor, Mr. Parris, appears to have the largest law firm in the area  with one major office near the hospital and another across town.  He is a smart cookie and knows his interests lie with supporting long time locals employed by the Aerospace industry.  His collaboration with Dick Rutan is not surprising, nor is the use of military technology.</p><p>I have observed that the resentment to new people moving here is mostly placed on people from Los Angeles.  Blame is usually placed on the L.A. police department for 'sending' all of their criminals, pedophiles, poor, and undesirables here.  Whatever that means.  I even heard the claim that when the 110 Harbor freeway was constructed in L.A. that the L.A. city council had to use eminent domain to evict people in the freeways path, and as a buyout plan, negotiated relocation packages with homeowners in the run down neighborhoods to move them to Lancaster.  I take this with a grain of salt, and know of no actual facts to support this.</p><p>In my opinion, it appears that the houses on the upper east side may have been constructed as base-style housing for lower middle military families and for engineers and technicians working to support the air force base back in the 60s.  If that is true, all those families have long since moved out and left their houses for the 'undesirables' from L.A. or the undesirables born and raised here.</p><p>That's what I  have observed in the short time I have been here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I moved to Lancaster a year ago .
The there is a local prison on the west side and the upper east side is mostly homes that look so run down , they could easily be crack houses or meth labs .
The local paper reports about 10-20 crimes a week on the 'police blotter ' section , ranging from theft to breaking and entering , and just last month , two murders , although I think those were down in Palmdale .
They are not really centrally located on the upper east side as you might expect , but a lot of crime does occur there.The long term locals here appear to be extremely resentful of the way their city has been transformed from a rural home town where everyone knew one another ( 30-40 years ago ) to a sprawling strip mall service oriented city it is today .
The defense industry has run this town , as most people are married to or know someone who works at Edwards AFB near by .
The mayor , Mr. Parris , appears to have the largest law firm in the area with one major office near the hospital and another across town .
He is a smart cookie and knows his interests lie with supporting long time locals employed by the Aerospace industry .
His collaboration with Dick Rutan is not surprising , nor is the use of military technology.I have observed that the resentment to new people moving here is mostly placed on people from Los Angeles .
Blame is usually placed on the L.A. police department for 'sending ' all of their criminals , pedophiles , poor , and undesirables here .
Whatever that means .
I even heard the claim that when the 110 Harbor freeway was constructed in L.A. that the L.A. city council had to use eminent domain to evict people in the freeways path , and as a buyout plan , negotiated relocation packages with homeowners in the run down neighborhoods to move them to Lancaster .
I take this with a grain of salt , and know of no actual facts to support this.In my opinion , it appears that the houses on the upper east side may have been constructed as base-style housing for lower middle military families and for engineers and technicians working to support the air force base back in the 60s .
If that is true , all those families have long since moved out and left their houses for the 'undesirables ' from L.A. or the undesirables born and raised here.That 's what I have observed in the short time I have been here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I moved to Lancaster a year ago.
The there is a local prison on the west side and the upper east side is mostly homes that look so run down, they could easily be crack houses or meth labs.
The local paper reports about 10-20 crimes a week on the 'police blotter' section, ranging from theft to breaking and entering, and just last month, two murders, although I think those were down in Palmdale.
They are not really centrally located on the upper east side as you might expect, but a lot of crime does occur there.The long term locals here appear to be extremely resentful of the way their city has been transformed from a rural home town where everyone knew one another (30-40 years ago) to a sprawling strip mall service oriented city it is today.
The defense industry has run this town, as most people are married to or know someone who works at Edwards AFB near by.
The mayor, Mr. Parris, appears to have the largest law firm in the area  with one major office near the hospital and another across town.
He is a smart cookie and knows his interests lie with supporting long time locals employed by the Aerospace industry.
His collaboration with Dick Rutan is not surprising, nor is the use of military technology.I have observed that the resentment to new people moving here is mostly placed on people from Los Angeles.
Blame is usually placed on the L.A. police department for 'sending' all of their criminals, pedophiles, poor, and undesirables here.
Whatever that means.
I even heard the claim that when the 110 Harbor freeway was constructed in L.A. that the L.A. city council had to use eminent domain to evict people in the freeways path, and as a buyout plan, negotiated relocation packages with homeowners in the run down neighborhoods to move them to Lancaster.
I take this with a grain of salt, and know of no actual facts to support this.In my opinion, it appears that the houses on the upper east side may have been constructed as base-style housing for lower middle military families and for engineers and technicians working to support the air force base back in the 60s.
If that is true, all those families have long since moved out and left their houses for the 'undesirables' from L.A. or the undesirables born and raised here.That's what I  have observed in the short time I have been here.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648999</id>
	<title>Re:Next step</title>
	<author>furby076</author>
	<datestamp>1247237640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is nothing new.  Police helicopters + cameras have been around for decades.  THis guy is excited because instead of analog (vhs) tapes which are grainy and don't do well when trying to enlarge a picture they are not using digital technology which is easier to mainpulate.<br> <br>

Privacy concerns from eyes in the sky were settled decades ago.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is nothing new .
Police helicopters + cameras have been around for decades .
THis guy is excited because instead of analog ( vhs ) tapes which are grainy and do n't do well when trying to enlarge a picture they are not using digital technology which is easier to mainpulate .
Privacy concerns from eyes in the sky were settled decades ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is nothing new.
Police helicopters + cameras have been around for decades.
THis guy is excited because instead of analog (vhs) tapes which are grainy and don't do well when trying to enlarge a picture they are not using digital technology which is easier to mainpulate.
Privacy concerns from eyes in the sky were settled decades ago.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649293</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>laughing\_badger</author>
	<datestamp>1247238840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Upper Piddle and Lower Piddle are still unique to us in England. Not sure why...
<p>
Also Old Sodbury and Slack Bottom.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Upper Piddle and Lower Piddle are still unique to us in England .
Not sure why.. . Also Old Sodbury and Slack Bottom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Upper Piddle and Lower Piddle are still unique to us in England.
Not sure why...

Also Old Sodbury and Slack Bottom.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28651579</id>
	<title>Re:Privacy?</title>
	<author>An ominous Cow art</author>
	<datestamp>1247248440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Very well said.  I've been ranting about 'consumers' vs. 'customers' for years now, and have always felt insulted with being treated like a suspected criminal at airports and border crossings.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Very well said .
I 've been ranting about 'consumers ' vs. 'customers ' for years now , and have always felt insulted with being treated like a suspected criminal at airports and border crossings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very well said.
I've been ranting about 'consumers' vs. 'customers' for years now, and have always felt insulted with being treated like a suspected criminal at airports and border crossings.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28655271</id>
	<title>At what point...?</title>
	<author>okmijnuhb</author>
	<datestamp>1247222580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>At what point is it better to have some crime? How fucking safe do people need to be? Close cover before striking, and never leave the house without a full face helmet. Big brother all around.</htmltext>
<tokenext>At what point is it better to have some crime ?
How fucking safe do people need to be ?
Close cover before striking , and never leave the house without a full face helmet .
Big brother all around .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At what point is it better to have some crime?
How fucking safe do people need to be?
Close cover before striking, and never leave the house without a full face helmet.
Big brother all around.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649141</id>
	<title>Re:Next step</title>
	<author>localman57</author>
	<datestamp>1247238240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Great.  Like I didn't stand out enough already wearing this tin-foil hat.  Now I have to carry an umbrella in good weather?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Great .
Like I did n't stand out enough already wearing this tin-foil hat .
Now I have to carry an umbrella in good weather ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great.
Like I didn't stand out enough already wearing this tin-foil hat.
Now I have to carry an umbrella in good weather?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648841</id>
	<title>And criminals...</title>
	<author>radtea</author>
	<datestamp>1247236860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...never do anything stupid, so the Mayor pointing out "It would be stupid to commit a crime" is a really excellent example of how compelling the case is for using this sort of surveillance technology.</p><p>If politicians and police were honest about this they'd be doing a controlled experiment on these deployments, putting out these systems in ways that varied both in space and time that allowed them to determine whether these things had any effect on quality of life amongst the citizens, which is the metric that matters.</p><p>Instead, they are content to make stuff up, and the average person is so relentlessly anti-empirical that they have no idea what they are missing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...never do anything stupid , so the Mayor pointing out " It would be stupid to commit a crime " is a really excellent example of how compelling the case is for using this sort of surveillance technology.If politicians and police were honest about this they 'd be doing a controlled experiment on these deployments , putting out these systems in ways that varied both in space and time that allowed them to determine whether these things had any effect on quality of life amongst the citizens , which is the metric that matters.Instead , they are content to make stuff up , and the average person is so relentlessly anti-empirical that they have no idea what they are missing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...never do anything stupid, so the Mayor pointing out "It would be stupid to commit a crime" is a really excellent example of how compelling the case is for using this sort of surveillance technology.If politicians and police were honest about this they'd be doing a controlled experiment on these deployments, putting out these systems in ways that varied both in space and time that allowed them to determine whether these things had any effect on quality of life amongst the citizens, which is the metric that matters.Instead, they are content to make stuff up, and the average person is so relentlessly anti-empirical that they have no idea what they are missing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650273</id>
	<title>Re:Why Lancaster?</title>
	<author>CompMD</author>
	<datestamp>1247242620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its also a hop, skip, and a jump from USAF and NASA facilities at Edwards AFB, and a whole bunch of Lockheed Martin Skunk Works people live there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its also a hop , skip , and a jump from USAF and NASA facilities at Edwards AFB , and a whole bunch of Lockheed Martin Skunk Works people live there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its also a hop, skip, and a jump from USAF and NASA facilities at Edwards AFB, and a whole bunch of Lockheed Martin Skunk Works people live there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649333</id>
	<title>first reference to Orwell</title>
	<author>rs232</author>
	<datestamp>1247238900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>"There was of course no way of knowing <a href="http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/0.html" title="george-orwell.org">whether you were being watched at any given moment</a> [george-orwell.org]. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live -- did live, from habit that became instinct -- in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized"</htmltext>
<tokenext>" There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment [ george-orwell.org ] .
How often , or on what system , the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork .
It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time .
But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to .
You had to live -- did live , from habit that became instinct -- in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard , and , except in darkness , every movement scrutinized "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment [george-orwell.org].
How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork.
It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time.
But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to.
You had to live -- did live, from habit that became instinct -- in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649911</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247241240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We are a country built almost entirely of immigrants. Our culture is just one huge "theft" from quite literally everyone, so these sorts of things are fairly common.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We are a country built almost entirely of immigrants .
Our culture is just one huge " theft " from quite literally everyone , so these sorts of things are fairly common .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We are a country built almost entirely of immigrants.
Our culture is just one huge "theft" from quite literally everyone, so these sorts of things are fairly common.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648875</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648933</id>
	<title>Why Lancaster?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247237220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a city with a giant Southern Baptist college and a bunch of farmhands.<br>
Nothing happens there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a city with a giant Southern Baptist college and a bunch of farmhands .
Nothing happens there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a city with a giant Southern Baptist college and a bunch of farmhands.
Nothing happens there.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650351</id>
	<title>And you expect a mayor to obey the same laws?</title>
	<author>Shivetya</author>
	<datestamp>1247242860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>because here in Atlanta when police protecting the mayor scanned the plates of a car visiting her son and found the car stolen the policeman doing got into trouble and the police were prevented from doing future scans.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>because here in Atlanta when police protecting the mayor scanned the plates of a car visiting her son and found the car stolen the policeman doing got into trouble and the police were prevented from doing future scans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>because here in Atlanta when police protecting the mayor scanned the plates of a car visiting her son and found the car stolen the policeman doing got into trouble and the police were prevented from doing future scans.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648909</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649357</id>
	<title>copseye</title>
	<author>martas</author>
	<datestamp>1247239020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=309" title="technovelgy.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=309</a> [technovelgy.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp ? Bnum = 309 [ technovelgy.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=309 [technovelgy.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649597</id>
	<title>More crimes will just take place underground...</title>
	<author>blahplusplus</author>
	<datestamp>1247239980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... in buildings, bridges, garage's and so forth, I can see criminals using underground tunnels/sewers/access points more often, and wealthy criminals creating such tunnel networks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... in buildings , bridges , garage 's and so forth , I can see criminals using underground tunnels/sewers/access points more often , and wealthy criminals creating such tunnel networks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... in buildings, bridges, garage's and so forth, I can see criminals using underground tunnels/sewers/access points more often, and wealthy criminals creating such tunnel networks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650043</id>
	<title>1984, anyone?</title>
	<author>Elenseel</author>
	<datestamp>1247241720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As much as this might be beneficial for crime prevention, Lancaster really will have Big Brother watching them (in public, at least) from now on.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As much as this might be beneficial for crime prevention , Lancaster really will have Big Brother watching them ( in public , at least ) from now on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As much as this might be beneficial for crime prevention, Lancaster really will have Big Brother watching them (in public, at least) from now on.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648875</id>
	<title>City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>funkatron</author>
	<datestamp>1247236980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>For a moment I thought I knew where that was. Are there any place names America didn't steal?</htmltext>
<tokenext>For a moment I thought I knew where that was .
Are there any place names America did n't steal ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For a moment I thought I knew where that was.
Are there any place names America didn't steal?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650385</id>
	<title>It's about fear</title>
	<author>siyavash</author>
	<datestamp>1247242980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When you keep putting fear day in and day out inside peoples' head via propaganda ( which ironically they watch on free will ) then there is no stopping in how survilance stuff they can put around them. People with fear of their own kind will go to great length to strip themselves out of privacy, freedom and liberty.</p><p>You shouldn't be shocked or surprised though. It's nothing new, just history repeating itself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When you keep putting fear day in and day out inside peoples ' head via propaganda ( which ironically they watch on free will ) then there is no stopping in how survilance stuff they can put around them .
People with fear of their own kind will go to great length to strip themselves out of privacy , freedom and liberty.You should n't be shocked or surprised though .
It 's nothing new , just history repeating itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you keep putting fear day in and day out inside peoples' head via propaganda ( which ironically they watch on free will ) then there is no stopping in how survilance stuff they can put around them.
People with fear of their own kind will go to great length to strip themselves out of privacy, freedom and liberty.You shouldn't be shocked or surprised though.
It's nothing new, just history repeating itself.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650067</id>
	<title>Re:Next step</title>
	<author>lobiusmoop</author>
	<datestamp>1247241840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Curiously enough, here in the UK, the fashion trend for 'hoodies' among teenagers took off pretty much in parallel with the explosion of CCTV monitoring in the cities.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Curiously enough , here in the UK , the fashion trend for 'hoodies ' among teenagers took off pretty much in parallel with the explosion of CCTV monitoring in the cities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Curiously enough, here in the UK, the fashion trend for 'hoodies' among teenagers took off pretty much in parallel with the explosion of CCTV monitoring in the cities.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648877</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649581</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>Deadstick</author>
	<datestamp>1247239920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Are there any place names America didn't steal?</i> <p>
Okahumpka, Florida.</p><p>
rj</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are there any place names America did n't steal ?
Okahumpka , Florida .
rj</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are there any place names America didn't steal?
Okahumpka, Florida.
rj</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648875</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649113</id>
	<title>Re:bad idea + bad idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247238060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know there are plenty of examples throughout history where the military has quelled it's own populace, but I would like to think that US troops would hopefully be above that.  I never understood this mentality, the one where the people you're protecting aboard are all the sudden worthless and you should beat the crap out of them, or worse, slaughter them.  I'm sure someone has researched it fully,  but honestly, I don't get it.</p><p>I served for 5 years in the Marine Corps, and obviously I was never faced with this situation, but I would hope that I would see through the B.S. and refuse unlawful orders that asked me to harm the civilian populace.  (defending yourself from attack is another situation though.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know there are plenty of examples throughout history where the military has quelled it 's own populace , but I would like to think that US troops would hopefully be above that .
I never understood this mentality , the one where the people you 're protecting aboard are all the sudden worthless and you should beat the crap out of them , or worse , slaughter them .
I 'm sure someone has researched it fully , but honestly , I do n't get it.I served for 5 years in the Marine Corps , and obviously I was never faced with this situation , but I would hope that I would see through the B.S .
and refuse unlawful orders that asked me to harm the civilian populace .
( defending yourself from attack is another situation though .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know there are plenty of examples throughout history where the military has quelled it's own populace, but I would like to think that US troops would hopefully be above that.
I never understood this mentality, the one where the people you're protecting aboard are all the sudden worthless and you should beat the crap out of them, or worse, slaughter them.
I'm sure someone has researched it fully,  but honestly, I don't get it.I served for 5 years in the Marine Corps, and obviously I was never faced with this situation, but I would hope that I would see through the B.S.
and refuse unlawful orders that asked me to harm the civilian populace.
(defending yourself from attack is another situation though.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648873</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28655519</id>
	<title>Re:bad idea + bad idea</title>
	<author>jeffliott</author>
	<datestamp>1247224380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Things ARE different in the military. Additional prosecution for improper, unlawful, or generally shameful behavior. The culture is very professional, and the discipline unmatched in the civilian world. Additionally, most wacko's are filtered through the insane training processes and strict culture. I don't think their role should ever extend to policing the country, but as a veteran, I'd trust an MP over a state/federal/local cop any day in any situation. I don't know how much this says, but the USAF has core values that read as follows "Integrity first. Service before self. Excellence in all we do." Personally, I think that speaks volumes, especially when the comparable mantra is "Protect and serve."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Things ARE different in the military .
Additional prosecution for improper , unlawful , or generally shameful behavior .
The culture is very professional , and the discipline unmatched in the civilian world .
Additionally , most wacko 's are filtered through the insane training processes and strict culture .
I do n't think their role should ever extend to policing the country , but as a veteran , I 'd trust an MP over a state/federal/local cop any day in any situation .
I do n't know how much this says , but the USAF has core values that read as follows " Integrity first .
Service before self .
Excellence in all we do .
" Personally , I think that speaks volumes , especially when the comparable mantra is " Protect and serve .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Things ARE different in the military.
Additional prosecution for improper, unlawful, or generally shameful behavior.
The culture is very professional, and the discipline unmatched in the civilian world.
Additionally, most wacko's are filtered through the insane training processes and strict culture.
I don't think their role should ever extend to policing the country, but as a veteran, I'd trust an MP over a state/federal/local cop any day in any situation.
I don't know how much this says, but the USAF has core values that read as follows "Integrity first.
Service before self.
Excellence in all we do.
" Personally, I think that speaks volumes, especially when the comparable mantra is "Protect and serve.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648873</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650949</id>
	<title>Re:bad idea + bad idea</title>
	<author>Psyborgue</author>
	<datestamp>1247245200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Go google Stanley Milgram.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Go google Stanley Milgram .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go google Stanley Milgram.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649113</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649299</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>clickety6</author>
	<datestamp>1247238840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648875</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28658353</id>
	<title>Re:Worst idea ever</title>
	<author>Psychotic\_Wrath</author>
	<datestamp>1247345520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>sky masks aren't exactly hard to make or buy.</p></div><div><p>
You could have just said tinfoil hat.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>sky masks are n't exactly hard to make or buy .
You could have just said tinfoil hat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sky masks aren't exactly hard to make or buy.
You could have just said tinfoil hat.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648889</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649271</id>
	<title>Re:Why Lancaster?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247238720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They can implement it there with minimal fuss from the public, which means it'll be acceptable in NYC within ten years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They can implement it there with minimal fuss from the public , which means it 'll be acceptable in NYC within ten years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They can implement it there with minimal fuss from the public, which means it'll be acceptable in NYC within ten years.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648933</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28651621</id>
	<title>Re:Stupid to commit a crime?</title>
	<author>brkello</author>
	<datestamp>1247248740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Umm, how did any of those reasons prove that those people aren't stupid?  Just because they have motivations (stupid ones at that) doesn't make them intelligent.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Umm , how did any of those reasons prove that those people are n't stupid ?
Just because they have motivations ( stupid ones at that ) does n't make them intelligent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Umm, how did any of those reasons prove that those people aren't stupid?
Just because they have motivations (stupid ones at that) doesn't make them intelligent.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649213</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649797</id>
	<title>Re:Worst idea ever</title>
	<author>gnupun</author>
	<datestamp>1247240820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Screw the criminals, who's going to compensate the law-abiding public for their loss of privacy? The loss of privacy of several hundred thousand citizens vs capturing 10 pickpockets and 5 thugs does not seem fair. Loss of privacy --&gt; loss of freedom --&gt; modern slavery.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Screw the criminals , who 's going to compensate the law-abiding public for their loss of privacy ?
The loss of privacy of several hundred thousand citizens vs capturing 10 pickpockets and 5 thugs does not seem fair .
Loss of privacy -- &gt; loss of freedom -- &gt; modern slavery .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Screw the criminals, who's going to compensate the law-abiding public for their loss of privacy?
The loss of privacy of several hundred thousand citizens vs capturing 10 pickpockets and 5 thugs does not seem fair.
Loss of privacy --&gt; loss of freedom --&gt; modern slavery.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648889</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649239</id>
	<title>California?</title>
	<author>sunking2</author>
	<datestamp>1247238600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I guess the whole state isn't on the verge of bankruptcy. Or do they think they can reduce the size of their police force enough to make up the difference?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess the whole state is n't on the verge of bankruptcy .
Or do they think they can reduce the size of their police force enough to make up the difference ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess the whole state isn't on the verge of bankruptcy.
Or do they think they can reduce the size of their police force enough to make up the difference?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649147</id>
	<title>Who votes for idiot politicians?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247238300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Constantly circling aircraft to carry video camera to fight crime? Isn't this the same California, which is spectacularly bankrupt already?<br>Do American voters really want to turn the USA a complete police state? Do they have any idea what are they doing? Why don't they read some books about existing or previous police states before they agree to create one for themselves voluntarily?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Constantly circling aircraft to carry video camera to fight crime ?
Is n't this the same California , which is spectacularly bankrupt already ? Do American voters really want to turn the USA a complete police state ?
Do they have any idea what are they doing ?
Why do n't they read some books about existing or previous police states before they agree to create one for themselves voluntarily ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Constantly circling aircraft to carry video camera to fight crime?
Isn't this the same California, which is spectacularly bankrupt already?Do American voters really want to turn the USA a complete police state?
Do they have any idea what are they doing?
Why don't they read some books about existing or previous police states before they agree to create one for themselves voluntarily?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28651791</id>
	<title>Re:Solution: Move.</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1247249700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Why don't we hear of more people fleeing the state in droves?</i></p><p>Because all the other states are in <a href="http://slashdot.org/~mcgrew/journal/232029" title="slashdot.org">equally dire straits.</a> [slashdot.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do n't we hear of more people fleeing the state in droves ? Because all the other states are in equally dire straits .
[ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why don't we hear of more people fleeing the state in droves?Because all the other states are in equally dire straits.
[slashdot.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648975</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650241</id>
	<title>Re:Next step</title>
	<author>igloonaut</author>
	<datestamp>1247242500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>An umbrella with a middle finger graphic on the top would be my choice of year-round protection from the elements.</htmltext>
<tokenext>An umbrella with a middle finger graphic on the top would be my choice of year-round protection from the elements .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An umbrella with a middle finger graphic on the top would be my choice of year-round protection from the elements.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648877</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648985</id>
	<title>All of them</title>
	<author>AbbyNormal</author>
	<datestamp>1247237520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep...Lets monitor all <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancaster,\_California" title="wikipedia.org"> 145,074</a> [wikipedia.org] of them at one time.  Oh wait.</p><p>Kinda funny that this concept was first described for a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon" title="wikipedia.org">prison</a> [wikipedia.org].</p><p>Oh well.  I sure hope that the residents enjoying paying their taxes for this, considering that a lot of the big banks in CA are not accepting <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124692354575702881.html" title="wsj.com">CA IOU's</a> [wsj.com] anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep...Lets monitor all 145,074 [ wikipedia.org ] of them at one time .
Oh wait.Kinda funny that this concept was first described for a prison [ wikipedia.org ] .Oh well .
I sure hope that the residents enjoying paying their taxes for this , considering that a lot of the big banks in CA are not accepting CA IOU 's [ wsj.com ] anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep...Lets monitor all  145,074 [wikipedia.org] of them at one time.
Oh wait.Kinda funny that this concept was first described for a prison [wikipedia.org].Oh well.
I sure hope that the residents enjoying paying their taxes for this, considering that a lot of the big banks in CA are not accepting CA IOU's [wsj.com] anymore.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649409</id>
	<title>Privacy?</title>
	<author>houghi</author>
	<datestamp>1247239260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So now what I do in my lawn is not considered privacy anymore? Great.<br>Even though I disagree with people who say "If you are in public, people should be able to film you at all times." I understand their point.</p><p>Now a camera pointing down will be able to see what I am doing in my back garden that has a very high fence around it. What if the camera films at an angle?</p><p>Well, at least people are innocent until proven guilty, but it is best to do your hardest to prove them guilty.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So now what I do in my lawn is not considered privacy anymore ?
Great.Even though I disagree with people who say " If you are in public , people should be able to film you at all times .
" I understand their point.Now a camera pointing down will be able to see what I am doing in my back garden that has a very high fence around it .
What if the camera films at an angle ? Well , at least people are innocent until proven guilty , but it is best to do your hardest to prove them guilty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So now what I do in my lawn is not considered privacy anymore?
Great.Even though I disagree with people who say "If you are in public, people should be able to film you at all times.
" I understand their point.Now a camera pointing down will be able to see what I am doing in my back garden that has a very high fence around it.
What if the camera films at an angle?Well, at least people are innocent until proven guilty, but it is best to do your hardest to prove them guilty.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28651325</id>
	<title>Re:bad idea + bad idea</title>
	<author>Maximum Prophet</author>
	<datestamp>1247247000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I would like to think that US troops would hopefully be above that</p></div><p>Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,<br>
We're finally on our own.<br>
This summer I hear the drumming,<br>
Four dead in Ohio.<br>
<br>
Gotta get down to it<br>
Soldiers are gunning us down<br>
Should have been done long ago.<br>
What if you knew her<br>
And found her dead on the ground<br>
How can you run when you know?<br>
<br>
Gotta get down to it<br>
Soldiers are gunning us down<br>
Should have been done long ago.<br>
What if you knew her<br>
And found her dead on the ground<br>
How can you run when you know?<br>
<br>
Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,<br>
We're finally on our own.<br>
This summer I hear the drumming,<br>
Four dead in Ohio.
<br> <br>
-- Neil Young</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would like to think that US troops would hopefully be above thatTin soldiers and Nixon coming , We 're finally on our own .
This summer I hear the drumming , Four dead in Ohio .
Got ta get down to it Soldiers are gunning us down Should have been done long ago .
What if you knew her And found her dead on the ground How can you run when you know ?
Got ta get down to it Soldiers are gunning us down Should have been done long ago .
What if you knew her And found her dead on the ground How can you run when you know ?
Tin soldiers and Nixon coming , We 're finally on our own .
This summer I hear the drumming , Four dead in Ohio .
-- Neil Young</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would like to think that US troops would hopefully be above thatTin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.
Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are gunning us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?
Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are gunning us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?
Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.
-- Neil Young
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649113</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28653943</id>
	<title>Re:first reference to Orwell</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247258340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Orwell was missing one significant piece of information.</p><p>Neither darkness nor distance are a barrier to observation anymore.  Even walls do not block some monitoring methods.</p><p>And with the increasingly segregated mentality of America, ie: Lib vs. Con, it is only a matter of time before this observation becomes a tool to use to destroy the character of any perceived opponent.<br>From there, it will be used to "keep the population in line" by telling them what they can and cannot do, and enforcing it through increasingly draconian Laws, or public ridicule.</p><p>And then, the killing begins as the creature known as "Society" finally stirs itself from the mezmerization of the boob-tube to realize it's been shackled and raises an alarm, and the gov responds with "overwhelming force".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Orwell was missing one significant piece of information.Neither darkness nor distance are a barrier to observation anymore .
Even walls do not block some monitoring methods.And with the increasingly segregated mentality of America , ie : Lib vs. Con , it is only a matter of time before this observation becomes a tool to use to destroy the character of any perceived opponent.From there , it will be used to " keep the population in line " by telling them what they can and can not do , and enforcing it through increasingly draconian Laws , or public ridicule.And then , the killing begins as the creature known as " Society " finally stirs itself from the mezmerization of the boob-tube to realize it 's been shackled and raises an alarm , and the gov responds with " overwhelming force " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Orwell was missing one significant piece of information.Neither darkness nor distance are a barrier to observation anymore.
Even walls do not block some monitoring methods.And with the increasingly segregated mentality of America, ie: Lib vs. Con, it is only a matter of time before this observation becomes a tool to use to destroy the character of any perceived opponent.From there, it will be used to "keep the population in line" by telling them what they can and cannot do, and enforcing it through increasingly draconian Laws, or public ridicule.And then, the killing begins as the creature known as "Society" finally stirs itself from the mezmerization of the boob-tube to realize it's been shackled and raises an alarm, and the gov responds with "overwhelming force".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649333</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649903</id>
	<title>Crowbar</title>
	<author>lymond01</author>
	<datestamp>1247241180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As demonstrated by one Gordon Freeman as he fled City 21 during the unrest in the early 2000s, these surveillance drones are particularly susceptible to blunt force attacks.  Alternatively, subway tunnels and fast waterborne craft also make it difficult for the drones to follow and/or record.</p><p>If people stopped acting all crazy, this sort of thing wouldn't be suggested in the first place.  As usual, it's the group of kids in the corner of the playground who ruin it for the rest of us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As demonstrated by one Gordon Freeman as he fled City 21 during the unrest in the early 2000s , these surveillance drones are particularly susceptible to blunt force attacks .
Alternatively , subway tunnels and fast waterborne craft also make it difficult for the drones to follow and/or record.If people stopped acting all crazy , this sort of thing would n't be suggested in the first place .
As usual , it 's the group of kids in the corner of the playground who ruin it for the rest of us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As demonstrated by one Gordon Freeman as he fled City 21 during the unrest in the early 2000s, these surveillance drones are particularly susceptible to blunt force attacks.
Alternatively, subway tunnels and fast waterborne craft also make it difficult for the drones to follow and/or record.If people stopped acting all crazy, this sort of thing wouldn't be suggested in the first place.
As usual, it's the group of kids in the corner of the playground who ruin it for the rest of us.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648741</id>
	<title>Next step</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247236500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Outlaw roofs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Outlaw roofs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Outlaw roofs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28651519</id>
	<title>Re:Worst idea ever</title>
	<author>brkello</author>
	<datestamp>1247248140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am curious, where may I purchase these "sky masks" that you speak of?  They sound amazing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am curious , where may I purchase these " sky masks " that you speak of ?
They sound amazing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am curious, where may I purchase these "sky masks" that you speak of?
They sound amazing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648889</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649621</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>gandhi\_2</author>
	<datestamp>1247240100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's part of the "special relationship". We get place names, they get the global shadow government.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's part of the " special relationship " .
We get place names , they get the global shadow government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's part of the "special relationship".
We get place names, they get the global shadow government.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648875</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649179</id>
	<title>In a world where umbrellas are outlawed...</title>
	<author>SoVeryTired</author>
	<datestamp>1247238420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>only outlaws will have umbrellas.</htmltext>
<tokenext>only outlaws will have umbrellas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>only outlaws will have umbrellas.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648877</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649019</id>
	<title>Oblig. Judas Priest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247237700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=TopkgGxGzQs" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=TopkgGxGzQs</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //youtube.com/watch ? v = TopkgGxGzQs [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://youtube.com/watch?v=TopkgGxGzQs [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650197</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>NiteShaed</author>
	<datestamp>1247242320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think Ho-Ho-Kus (NJ) is unique<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)<br>IIRC it's also the only double hyphenated city-name in the U.S.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think Ho-Ho-Kus ( NJ ) is unique : ) IIRC it 's also the only double hyphenated city-name in the U.S .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think Ho-Ho-Kus (NJ) is unique :)IIRC it's also the only double hyphenated city-name in the U.S.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648875</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28652323</id>
	<title>Re:Next step</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247251620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Our mayor (yes, I live in the AV) would indeed outlaw roofs if he could. This is the same guy who said that he would seize and kill law-abiding citizens' pets if doing so would discourage gang members from owning dogs.</p><p>Think I'm making this up??<br><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jan/26/local/me-dogordinance26?pg=1" title="latimes.com">http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jan/26/local/me-dogordinance26?pg=1</a> [latimes.com]<br>======<br>"What happens when these gang members that you're trying to target move on to Dobermans or German shepherds? You going to restrict them too?" Listman asked the council.</p><p>"If they move on to cats," Parris responded, "I'm going to take their cats."<br>======</p><p>He's an ambulance chaser by profession, which means in his worldview, there is only one solution for every social ill:  SOMEONE MUST PAY!!</p><p>The man is a menace to the Constitution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Our mayor ( yes , I live in the AV ) would indeed outlaw roofs if he could .
This is the same guy who said that he would seize and kill law-abiding citizens ' pets if doing so would discourage gang members from owning dogs.Think I 'm making this up ?
? http : //articles.latimes.com/2009/jan/26/local/me-dogordinance26 ? pg = 1 [ latimes.com ] = = = = = = " What happens when these gang members that you 're trying to target move on to Dobermans or German shepherds ?
You going to restrict them too ?
" Listman asked the council .
" If they move on to cats , " Parris responded , " I 'm going to take their cats .
" = = = = = = He 's an ambulance chaser by profession , which means in his worldview , there is only one solution for every social ill : SOMEONE MUST PAY !
! The man is a menace to the Constitution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our mayor (yes, I live in the AV) would indeed outlaw roofs if he could.
This is the same guy who said that he would seize and kill law-abiding citizens' pets if doing so would discourage gang members from owning dogs.Think I'm making this up?
?http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jan/26/local/me-dogordinance26?pg=1 [latimes.com]======"What happens when these gang members that you're trying to target move on to Dobermans or German shepherds?
You going to restrict them too?
" Listman asked the council.
"If they move on to cats," Parris responded, "I'm going to take their cats.
"======He's an ambulance chaser by profession, which means in his worldview, there is only one solution for every social ill:  SOMEONE MUST PAY!
!The man is a menace to the Constitution.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648741</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649483</id>
	<title>Re:bad idea + bad idea</title>
	<author>gandhi\_2</author>
	<datestamp>1247239500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You have an excellent point. Soldiers are trained, on purpose and by simple byproduct of the job, to think of things as us vs. them. You almost WANT things adversarial.</p><p>Imagine yourself having to surveil a group of people... The very fact that you ARE surveiling them means they are bad...otherwise, why do it? (In your mind). How many months go by before you start hoping they do something bad? Wishing? Nit-picking reasons for action? Besides...they are the enemy, so the ends justify the means. This is basically every soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan in an Observation Post, staring at people thru binos and rifle scopes for 12ish hours a day for a year, and I should know.</p><p>Sad state of affairs to do this to your own country. A free country. How can a California city afford this, anyway? IOU: 1 surveillance society.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have an excellent point .
Soldiers are trained , on purpose and by simple byproduct of the job , to think of things as us vs. them. You almost WANT things adversarial.Imagine yourself having to surveil a group of people... The very fact that you ARE surveiling them means they are bad...otherwise , why do it ?
( In your mind ) .
How many months go by before you start hoping they do something bad ?
Wishing ? Nit-picking reasons for action ?
Besides...they are the enemy , so the ends justify the means .
This is basically every soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan in an Observation Post , staring at people thru binos and rifle scopes for 12ish hours a day for a year , and I should know.Sad state of affairs to do this to your own country .
A free country .
How can a California city afford this , anyway ?
IOU : 1 surveillance society .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have an excellent point.
Soldiers are trained, on purpose and by simple byproduct of the job, to think of things as us vs. them. You almost WANT things adversarial.Imagine yourself having to surveil a group of people... The very fact that you ARE surveiling them means they are bad...otherwise, why do it?
(In your mind).
How many months go by before you start hoping they do something bad?
Wishing? Nit-picking reasons for action?
Besides...they are the enemy, so the ends justify the means.
This is basically every soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan in an Observation Post, staring at people thru binos and rifle scopes for 12ish hours a day for a year, and I should know.Sad state of affairs to do this to your own country.
A free country.
How can a California city afford this, anyway?
IOU: 1 surveillance society.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28653065</id>
	<title>Re:Privacy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247254500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Theyre pretty fycking obvious if you ask me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Theyre pretty fycking obvious if you ask me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Theyre pretty fycking obvious if you ask me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649583</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650293</id>
	<title>Anyone else think of...</title>
	<author>Hozen</author>
	<datestamp>1247242680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone else think of those flying camera things in Half Life 2???  The ones that fly around and alert the bad guys of your presence.  I didn't RTFL, but I get the feeling this technology could be used for more than just recording criminals.  I'm sure it could be used to track people and their actions.  I realize I'm stepping into major tinfoil hat territory here, but I think it's worth noting that "this is where it starts".</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone else think of those flying camera things in Half Life 2 ? ? ?
The ones that fly around and alert the bad guys of your presence .
I did n't RTFL , but I get the feeling this technology could be used for more than just recording criminals .
I 'm sure it could be used to track people and their actions .
I realize I 'm stepping into major tinfoil hat territory here , but I think it 's worth noting that " this is where it starts " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone else think of those flying camera things in Half Life 2???
The ones that fly around and alert the bad guys of your presence.
I didn't RTFL, but I get the feeling this technology could be used for more than just recording criminals.
I'm sure it could be used to track people and their actions.
I realize I'm stepping into major tinfoil hat territory here, but I think it's worth noting that "this is where it starts".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649493</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>aynoknman</author>
	<datestamp>1247239560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>For a moment I thought I knew where that was. Are there any place names America didn't steal?</p></div><p>Probably a case of self-stealing <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancaster,\_Pennsylvania" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Lancaster, Pennsylvania</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For a moment I thought I knew where that was .
Are there any place names America did n't steal ? Probably a case of self-stealing Lancaster , Pennsylvania [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For a moment I thought I knew where that was.
Are there any place names America didn't steal?Probably a case of self-stealing Lancaster, Pennsylvania [wikipedia.org]
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28659581</id>
	<title>Re:Alan Parsons Project</title>
	<author>crtreece</author>
	<datestamp>1247324100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll see your APP Eye in the Sky, and raise you 1 Judas Priest <a href="http://www.lyricsfreak.com/j/judas+priest/electric+eye\_20076160.html" title="lyricsfreak.com" rel="nofollow">Electric Eye</a> [lyricsfreak.com].
<br>
<br>Up here in space
<br>I'm looking down on you
<br>My lasers trace
<br>Everything you do
<br>
<br>You think you've private lives
<br>Think nothing of the kind
<br>There is no true escape
<br>I'm watching all the time
<br>
<br>Oh, and whoever thought putting the Preview and Submit buttons right next to each other, suck it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll see your APP Eye in the Sky , and raise you 1 Judas Priest Electric Eye [ lyricsfreak.com ] .
Up here in space I 'm looking down on you My lasers trace Everything you do You think you 've private lives Think nothing of the kind There is no true escape I 'm watching all the time Oh , and whoever thought putting the Preview and Submit buttons right next to each other , suck it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll see your APP Eye in the Sky, and raise you 1 Judas Priest Electric Eye [lyricsfreak.com].
Up here in space
I'm looking down on you
My lasers trace
Everything you do

You think you've private lives
Think nothing of the kind
There is no true escape
I'm watching all the time

Oh, and whoever thought putting the Preview and Submit buttons right next to each other, suck it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650237</id>
	<title>Re:Next step</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1247242500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.angryflower.com/1999mi.gif" title="angryflower.com">Who's watching you?</a> [angryflower.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who 's watching you ?
[ angryflower.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who's watching you?
[angryflower.com]</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649377</id>
	<title>Re:bad idea + bad idea</title>
	<author>Mr. Slippery</author>
	<datestamp>1247239080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>When you have the Military controling civilian security, the civilians become the enemy...You can't just take an MP out of the fleet, give him a badge and a gun, and expect him to take a squad car around the block with out incident.</i></p></div> </blockquote><p>We've been militarizing ordinary police work <a href="http://www.reason.com/news/show/121169.html" title="reason.com" rel="nofollow">for the past few decades, since the Reagan era</a> [reason.com]. It's part of the general trend of the militarization of society pushed by authoritarian neoconservatives.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When you have the Military controling civilian security , the civilians become the enemy...You ca n't just take an MP out of the fleet , give him a badge and a gun , and expect him to take a squad car around the block with out incident .
We 've been militarizing ordinary police work for the past few decades , since the Reagan era [ reason.com ] .
It 's part of the general trend of the militarization of society pushed by authoritarian neoconservatives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> When you have the Military controling civilian security, the civilians become the enemy...You can't just take an MP out of the fleet, give him a badge and a gun, and expect him to take a squad car around the block with out incident.
We've been militarizing ordinary police work for the past few decades, since the Reagan era [reason.com].
It's part of the general trend of the militarization of society pushed by authoritarian neoconservatives.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650155</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>Critical Facilities</author>
	<datestamp>1247242080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Are there any place names America didn't steal?</p></div><p> <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=lizard+lick,++nc&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;split=0&amp;gl=us&amp;ei=RVlXStHECoWqtgeE2v3cCg&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=geocode\_result&amp;ct=title&amp;resnum=1" title="google.com">Lizard Lick,  NC</a> [google.com] <br> <br>No,  I'm not kidding.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are there any place names America did n't steal ?
Lizard Lick , NC [ google.com ] No , I 'm not kidding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are there any place names America didn't steal?
Lizard Lick,  NC [google.com]  No,  I'm not kidding.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28654197</id>
	<title>Alternative Idea</title>
	<author>anonymousNR</author>
	<datestamp>1247216400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why don't they invest this money in hiring new cops?<br>
1. Employment<br>
2. good Economy<br>
3. Everybody happy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do n't they invest this money in hiring new cops ?
1. Employment 2. good Economy 3 .
Everybody happy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why don't they invest this money in hiring new cops?
1. Employment
2. good Economy
3.
Everybody happy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28652543</id>
	<title>Re:Trying to counter irrational acts, rationally</title>
	<author>Reziac</author>
	<datestamp>1247252520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My first thought was "I wonder which of the mayor's buddies will get the surveillance contract."</p><p>Rex Parris isn't gullible by any means. But he is one of the most aggressive jerks I've ever encountered in public office, and clearly cares NOTHING for average citizens NOR for our Constitutional rights, which he is perfectly willing to trample in pursuit of his goals -- he wants to be seen as the tough-on-crime mayor who ran the gangs out of Lancaster, and if everyone else suffers in the process, he couldn't care less. See my post in the first thread where I touch on that.</p><p>(Yes, I live here......)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My first thought was " I wonder which of the mayor 's buddies will get the surveillance contract .
" Rex Parris is n't gullible by any means .
But he is one of the most aggressive jerks I 've ever encountered in public office , and clearly cares NOTHING for average citizens NOR for our Constitutional rights , which he is perfectly willing to trample in pursuit of his goals -- he wants to be seen as the tough-on-crime mayor who ran the gangs out of Lancaster , and if everyone else suffers in the process , he could n't care less .
See my post in the first thread where I touch on that .
( Yes , I live here...... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My first thought was "I wonder which of the mayor's buddies will get the surveillance contract.
"Rex Parris isn't gullible by any means.
But he is one of the most aggressive jerks I've ever encountered in public office, and clearly cares NOTHING for average citizens NOR for our Constitutional rights, which he is perfectly willing to trample in pursuit of his goals -- he wants to be seen as the tough-on-crime mayor who ran the gangs out of Lancaster, and if everyone else suffers in the process, he couldn't care less.
See my post in the first thread where I touch on that.
(Yes, I live here......)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649201</id>
	<title>Trying to counter irrational acts, rationally</title>
	<author>petes\_PoV</author>
	<datestamp>1247238540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Criminals don't think "oooh here comes the crime fighting plane - I don't think I'll mug that little old lady "
<p>
They either plan around it (unlikely) or commit impulsive acts when the opportunity arises. They also don't always commit their crimes out-doors, or in cloud-free weather. They also don't ever expect to get caught (if they did, that would be a deterrent - it isn't).. So while keeping a plane in the air (and presumably a control room staffed, to watch the spy cameras) and a mechanic on standby to refule it and maintain it, might sound like a good idea - <b>and may even impress the voters</b> the chances of it reducing crime are small.
</p><p>
Luckily for the mayor, it's impossible to correlate one act of crime prevention with any movement in the crime statistics, so whatever happens (short of someone stealing the plane), he, she or it will be able to call the initiative a success.
</p><p>I do have a feeling though, that this plan was not exactly thought out. Any sale to a gullible official - who isn't spending their own cash yet comes out with statements like "I've never been so excited about anything" sounds like exuberance has got the better over common sense. I would expect that the money earmarked for this plan would be far better spent on orthodox police patrols: more officers, more man-hours and maybe even a few public awareness campaigns. Not as sexy, but far more effective.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Criminals do n't think " oooh here comes the crime fighting plane - I do n't think I 'll mug that little old lady " They either plan around it ( unlikely ) or commit impulsive acts when the opportunity arises .
They also do n't always commit their crimes out-doors , or in cloud-free weather .
They also do n't ever expect to get caught ( if they did , that would be a deterrent - it is n't ) .. So while keeping a plane in the air ( and presumably a control room staffed , to watch the spy cameras ) and a mechanic on standby to refule it and maintain it , might sound like a good idea - and may even impress the voters the chances of it reducing crime are small .
Luckily for the mayor , it 's impossible to correlate one act of crime prevention with any movement in the crime statistics , so whatever happens ( short of someone stealing the plane ) , he , she or it will be able to call the initiative a success .
I do have a feeling though , that this plan was not exactly thought out .
Any sale to a gullible official - who is n't spending their own cash yet comes out with statements like " I 've never been so excited about anything " sounds like exuberance has got the better over common sense .
I would expect that the money earmarked for this plan would be far better spent on orthodox police patrols : more officers , more man-hours and maybe even a few public awareness campaigns .
Not as sexy , but far more effective .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Criminals don't think "oooh here comes the crime fighting plane - I don't think I'll mug that little old lady "

They either plan around it (unlikely) or commit impulsive acts when the opportunity arises.
They also don't always commit their crimes out-doors, or in cloud-free weather.
They also don't ever expect to get caught (if they did, that would be a deterrent - it isn't).. So while keeping a plane in the air (and presumably a control room staffed, to watch the spy cameras) and a mechanic on standby to refule it and maintain it, might sound like a good idea - and may even impress the voters the chances of it reducing crime are small.
Luckily for the mayor, it's impossible to correlate one act of crime prevention with any movement in the crime statistics, so whatever happens (short of someone stealing the plane), he, she or it will be able to call the initiative a success.
I do have a feeling though, that this plan was not exactly thought out.
Any sale to a gullible official - who isn't spending their own cash yet comes out with statements like "I've never been so excited about anything" sounds like exuberance has got the better over common sense.
I would expect that the money earmarked for this plan would be far better spent on orthodox police patrols: more officers, more man-hours and maybe even a few public awareness campaigns.
Not as sexy, but far more effective.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28651815</id>
	<title>Re:Trying to counter irrational acts, rationally</title>
	<author>QuantumRiff</author>
	<datestamp>1247249760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't help but think about all those little domes in the ceiling at my local big box retailer, yet they still have a crapload of theft.  Its really not much of a deterrent, it just keeps honest people honest.. (and usually doesn't record the backrooms, where the employees steal stuff left and right)....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't help but think about all those little domes in the ceiling at my local big box retailer , yet they still have a crapload of theft .
Its really not much of a deterrent , it just keeps honest people honest.. ( and usually does n't record the backrooms , where the employees steal stuff left and right ) ... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't help but think about all those little domes in the ceiling at my local big box retailer, yet they still have a crapload of theft.
Its really not much of a deterrent, it just keeps honest people honest.. (and usually doesn't record the backrooms, where the employees steal stuff left and right)....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28656077</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>smclean</author>
	<datestamp>1247228640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Those who dislike the Antelope Valley (consisting mostly of Palmdale and Lancaster) often call them Palmcaster and Landscatter.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Those who dislike the Antelope Valley ( consisting mostly of Palmdale and Lancaster ) often call them Palmcaster and Landscatter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those who dislike the Antelope Valley (consisting mostly of Palmdale and Lancaster) often call them Palmcaster and Landscatter.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649133</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247238180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Honolulu</htmltext>
<tokenext>Honolulu</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Honolulu</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648833</id>
	<title>It was a matter of time.</title>
	<author>techwrench</author>
	<datestamp>1247236860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
It was a matter of time before this technology trickled down to Law Enforcement.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It was a matter of time before this technology trickled down to Law Enforcement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
It was a matter of time before this technology trickled down to Law Enforcement.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28683057</id>
	<title>seems like a good idea</title>
	<author>xmvince</author>
	<datestamp>1247481300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>seems like a good idea as long as they don't start trying to crack down on non-violent non-hurtful "crimes" such as marijuana smoking.</htmltext>
<tokenext>seems like a good idea as long as they do n't start trying to crack down on non-violent non-hurtful " crimes " such as marijuana smoking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>seems like a good idea as long as they don't start trying to crack down on non-violent non-hurtful "crimes" such as marijuana smoking.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649999</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>pentalive</author>
	<datestamp>1247241540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Steal is such an ugly word, We imitate, borrow, emulate.</p><p>You know as is imitation is the best compliment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Steal is such an ugly word , We imitate , borrow , emulate.You know as is imitation is the best compliment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Steal is such an ugly word, We imitate, borrow, emulate.You know as is imitation is the best compliment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648925</id>
	<title>I've never been so excited about anything</title>
	<author>schwit1</author>
	<datestamp>1247237220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This politician obviously doesn't get out much.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This politician obviously does n't get out much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This politician obviously doesn't get out much.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648857</id>
	<title>Re:Next step</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247236980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly. Like the stupid laws pertaining to tinted windows in cars.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
Like the stupid laws pertaining to tinted windows in cars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
Like the stupid laws pertaining to tinted windows in cars.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649815</id>
	<title>It's LANcaster</title>
	<author>Chemisor</author>
	<datestamp>1247240880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We named our city that because we have so many LAN parties here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We named our city that because we have so many LAN parties here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We named our city that because we have so many LAN parties here.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28651163</id>
	<title>Lancaster needs the tech</title>
	<author>dave562</author>
	<datestamp>1247246160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If any place in southern California needs military surveillance technology to crack down on crime, its Lancaster.  One of the trends that took place in the early 21st century was that large numbers of people from South Central moved out to Lancaster and Palmdale.  They were drawn by the affordable housing and the hope for a new start.  Unfortunately they took all of their ghetto children and relatives with them, and now Palmdale is nick named Pompton to reflect its characteristic similarities to everything bad about Compton.  The tax revenues in those cities are very low and consequently the police departments are small and under funded.  It's a good place to be if you're a gangster and a bad place to be if you're just about anyone else.</p><p>When I see people on here decrying surveillance technology, I wonder if they've ever lived in borderline neighborhoods.  I live in Long Beach, and it isn't by any means a full fledged, crime ridden neighborhood like Watts, but it has its fair share of property crime and other crimes of opportunity.  One of the nicer neighborhoods that I used to live in just put up cameras because the residents were sick of having their cars and homes broken into.  The cameras are accessible by the police department.  To nobody's surprise, crime has gone down in the neighborhood.</p><p>Its easy to live in the comfort of a place like South Orange County, or any other affluent suburb and moan on internet about the evils of big brother surveillance technology.  Where the police already have everything under control and you can safely walk down the street at night, there probably isn't a need for a network of cameras blanketing the city.  On the other hand, in places that are borderline, where there aren't enough police to be everywhere and there are good sized populations of convicted criminals on probation and parole, a simple technology like security cameras can make a difference.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If any place in southern California needs military surveillance technology to crack down on crime , its Lancaster .
One of the trends that took place in the early 21st century was that large numbers of people from South Central moved out to Lancaster and Palmdale .
They were drawn by the affordable housing and the hope for a new start .
Unfortunately they took all of their ghetto children and relatives with them , and now Palmdale is nick named Pompton to reflect its characteristic similarities to everything bad about Compton .
The tax revenues in those cities are very low and consequently the police departments are small and under funded .
It 's a good place to be if you 're a gangster and a bad place to be if you 're just about anyone else.When I see people on here decrying surveillance technology , I wonder if they 've ever lived in borderline neighborhoods .
I live in Long Beach , and it is n't by any means a full fledged , crime ridden neighborhood like Watts , but it has its fair share of property crime and other crimes of opportunity .
One of the nicer neighborhoods that I used to live in just put up cameras because the residents were sick of having their cars and homes broken into .
The cameras are accessible by the police department .
To nobody 's surprise , crime has gone down in the neighborhood.Its easy to live in the comfort of a place like South Orange County , or any other affluent suburb and moan on internet about the evils of big brother surveillance technology .
Where the police already have everything under control and you can safely walk down the street at night , there probably is n't a need for a network of cameras blanketing the city .
On the other hand , in places that are borderline , where there are n't enough police to be everywhere and there are good sized populations of convicted criminals on probation and parole , a simple technology like security cameras can make a difference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If any place in southern California needs military surveillance technology to crack down on crime, its Lancaster.
One of the trends that took place in the early 21st century was that large numbers of people from South Central moved out to Lancaster and Palmdale.
They were drawn by the affordable housing and the hope for a new start.
Unfortunately they took all of their ghetto children and relatives with them, and now Palmdale is nick named Pompton to reflect its characteristic similarities to everything bad about Compton.
The tax revenues in those cities are very low and consequently the police departments are small and under funded.
It's a good place to be if you're a gangster and a bad place to be if you're just about anyone else.When I see people on here decrying surveillance technology, I wonder if they've ever lived in borderline neighborhoods.
I live in Long Beach, and it isn't by any means a full fledged, crime ridden neighborhood like Watts, but it has its fair share of property crime and other crimes of opportunity.
One of the nicer neighborhoods that I used to live in just put up cameras because the residents were sick of having their cars and homes broken into.
The cameras are accessible by the police department.
To nobody's surprise, crime has gone down in the neighborhood.Its easy to live in the comfort of a place like South Orange County, or any other affluent suburb and moan on internet about the evils of big brother surveillance technology.
Where the police already have everything under control and you can safely walk down the street at night, there probably isn't a need for a network of cameras blanketing the city.
On the other hand, in places that are borderline, where there aren't enough police to be everywhere and there are good sized populations of convicted criminals on probation and parole, a simple technology like security cameras can make a difference.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28651413</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247247360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Muskogee, Oklahoma - Tahlequah, Oklahoma - Nowata, Oklahoma</p><p>Pretty sure that there are a lot of towns in Oklahoma that are not named after English places...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Muskogee , Oklahoma - Tahlequah , Oklahoma - Nowata , OklahomaPretty sure that there are a lot of towns in Oklahoma that are not named after English places.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Muskogee, Oklahoma - Tahlequah, Oklahoma - Nowata, OklahomaPretty sure that there are a lot of towns in Oklahoma that are not named after English places...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28652663</id>
	<title>To sum it up...</title>
	<author>psydeshow</author>
	<datestamp>1247253060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If cameras prevented crime, there would be no such thing as a corrupt politician.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If cameras prevented crime , there would be no such thing as a corrupt politician .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If cameras prevented crime, there would be no such thing as a corrupt politician.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650733</id>
	<title>Re:Next step</title>
	<author>skeeto</author>
	<datestamp>1247244360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you have a roof then you must have something to hide!</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you have a roof then you must have something to hide !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you have a roof then you must have something to hide!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28654469</id>
	<title>Re:Trying to counter irrational acts, rationally</title>
	<author>ksheff</author>
	<datestamp>1247217540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The UK has tons of CCTV cameras all over the place, but that doesn't stop it from having a violent crime rate of about 2000 per 100,000 people.  Hmm...an entire country that's almost as bad as Detroit?  Unless they so far as counting profanity laced insults as a violent crime, that's messed up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The UK has tons of CCTV cameras all over the place , but that does n't stop it from having a violent crime rate of about 2000 per 100,000 people .
Hmm...an entire country that 's almost as bad as Detroit ?
Unless they so far as counting profanity laced insults as a violent crime , that 's messed up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The UK has tons of CCTV cameras all over the place, but that doesn't stop it from having a violent crime rate of about 2000 per 100,000 people.
Hmm...an entire country that's almost as bad as Detroit?
Unless they so far as counting profanity laced insults as a violent crime, that's messed up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649175</id>
	<title>Re:Time to take out the old laser...</title>
	<author>The Last Gunslinger</author>
	<datestamp>1247238420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My thought was lower-tech...a moderate caliber, high-powered rifle would do the job nicely.  I'm thinking<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.30-06, which should work well on traffic enforcement cameras, too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My thought was lower-tech...a moderate caliber , high-powered rifle would do the job nicely .
I 'm thinking .30-06 , which should work well on traffic enforcement cameras , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My thought was lower-tech...a moderate caliber, high-powered rifle would do the job nicely.
I'm thinking .30-06, which should work well on traffic enforcement cameras, too.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28648877</id>
	<title>Re:Next step</title>
	<author>N3Roaster</author>
	<datestamp>1247237040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The new fashion accessory that every criminal thug just has to have: an umbrella.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The new fashion accessory that every criminal thug just has to have : an umbrella .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The new fashion accessory that every criminal thug just has to have: an umbrella.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650619</id>
	<title>Re:Worst idea ever</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247243940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whoever rated this overrated needs to get off there moderator high-horse.  It contains valid points and serious logical flaws in the entire plan. If thats not insightful then you can fuck off.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whoever rated this overrated needs to get off there moderator high-horse .
It contains valid points and serious logical flaws in the entire plan .
If thats not insightful then you can fuck off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whoever rated this overrated needs to get off there moderator high-horse.
It contains valid points and serious logical flaws in the entire plan.
If thats not insightful then you can fuck off.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649583</id>
	<title>Re:Privacy?</title>
	<author>hacker</author>
	<datestamp>1247239920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Well, at least people are innocent <em> <strong>until</strong> </em> proven guilty, but it is best to do your hardest to prove them guilty.</p></div></blockquote><p>Here's part of the problem. We should be innocent <em> <strong>unless</strong> </em> proven guilty, not <em> <strong>until</strong> </em> proven guilty.

</p><p>This fallacy presumes that we're all guilty, and it's just a matter of time until someone catches us. We need to stop referring to it as such.

</p><ul>
<li>We are not <em>consumers</em>, we are <em>customers</em></li>
<li>We are not innocent <em>until</em> proven guilty, we are innocent <em>unless</em> proven guilty</li>
<li>Just because I have nothing to hide, does not mean you have a right to look.</li>
</ul><p>This whole country is being turned upside-down by very subtle, un-noticed changes in our vernacular. We need to stop that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , at least people are innocent until proven guilty , but it is best to do your hardest to prove them guilty.Here 's part of the problem .
We should be innocent unless proven guilty , not until proven guilty .
This fallacy presumes that we 're all guilty , and it 's just a matter of time until someone catches us .
We need to stop referring to it as such .
We are not consumers , we are customers We are not innocent until proven guilty , we are innocent unless proven guilty Just because I have nothing to hide , does not mean you have a right to look .
This whole country is being turned upside-down by very subtle , un-noticed changes in our vernacular .
We need to stop that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, at least people are innocent  until  proven guilty, but it is best to do your hardest to prove them guilty.Here's part of the problem.
We should be innocent  unless  proven guilty, not  until  proven guilty.
This fallacy presumes that we're all guilty, and it's just a matter of time until someone catches us.
We need to stop referring to it as such.
We are not consumers, we are customers
We are not innocent until proven guilty, we are innocent unless proven guilty
Just because I have nothing to hide, does not mean you have a right to look.
This whole country is being turned upside-down by very subtle, un-noticed changes in our vernacular.
We need to stop that.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28653485</id>
	<title>Re:Well, well.</title>
	<author>misexistentialist</author>
	<datestamp>1247256240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One step closer to becoming a banana republic--"special response" in my tiny city looks more like the guy in the right in urban camo and full battle gear, though they do have face masks for that ninja touch. Being outfitted with a shotgun and a helmet wouldn't help you against these ruthless killers.<br> <br> Militarized police are actually worse than soldiers since if they don't shoot on sight, they have a strong incentive to imprison you; soldiers on the other hand are happy to see you go if they're not in a killing mood.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One step closer to becoming a banana republic-- " special response " in my tiny city looks more like the guy in the right in urban camo and full battle gear , though they do have face masks for that ninja touch .
Being outfitted with a shotgun and a helmet would n't help you against these ruthless killers .
Militarized police are actually worse than soldiers since if they do n't shoot on sight , they have a strong incentive to imprison you ; soldiers on the other hand are happy to see you go if they 're not in a killing mood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One step closer to becoming a banana republic--"special response" in my tiny city looks more like the guy in the right in urban camo and full battle gear, though they do have face masks for that ninja touch.
Being outfitted with a shotgun and a helmet wouldn't help you against these ruthless killers.
Militarized police are actually worse than soldiers since if they don't shoot on sight, they have a strong incentive to imprison you; soldiers on the other hand are happy to see you go if they're not in a killing mood.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28652611</id>
	<title>Re:Trying to counter irrational acts, rationally</title>
	<author>psydeshow</author>
	<datestamp>1247252880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I do have a feeling though, that this plan was not exactly thought out. Any sale to a gullible official - who isn't spending their own cash yet comes out with statements like "I've never been so excited about anything" sounds like exuberance has got the better over common sense. I would expect that the money earmarked for this plan would be far better spent on orthodox police patrols: more officers, more man-hours and maybe even a few public awareness campaigns. Not as sexy, but far more effective.</p></div><p>Exactly. If this sort of thing worked, they would have been doing it since the 60s. It's not like highly detailed aerial photography is a new thing, and manpower was much cheaper then than it is now.</p><p>This is just some jerk mayor fell for a sales pitch. Some days it's a monorail, other days it's a flying surveillance platform. Hopefully someone with some sense will show up at the next City Council meeting and that's the last we'll hear of it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do have a feeling though , that this plan was not exactly thought out .
Any sale to a gullible official - who is n't spending their own cash yet comes out with statements like " I 've never been so excited about anything " sounds like exuberance has got the better over common sense .
I would expect that the money earmarked for this plan would be far better spent on orthodox police patrols : more officers , more man-hours and maybe even a few public awareness campaigns .
Not as sexy , but far more effective.Exactly .
If this sort of thing worked , they would have been doing it since the 60s .
It 's not like highly detailed aerial photography is a new thing , and manpower was much cheaper then than it is now.This is just some jerk mayor fell for a sales pitch .
Some days it 's a monorail , other days it 's a flying surveillance platform .
Hopefully someone with some sense will show up at the next City Council meeting and that 's the last we 'll hear of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do have a feeling though, that this plan was not exactly thought out.
Any sale to a gullible official - who isn't spending their own cash yet comes out with statements like "I've never been so excited about anything" sounds like exuberance has got the better over common sense.
I would expect that the money earmarked for this plan would be far better spent on orthodox police patrols: more officers, more man-hours and maybe even a few public awareness campaigns.
Not as sexy, but far more effective.Exactly.
If this sort of thing worked, they would have been doing it since the 60s.
It's not like highly detailed aerial photography is a new thing, and manpower was much cheaper then than it is now.This is just some jerk mayor fell for a sales pitch.
Some days it's a monorail, other days it's a flying surveillance platform.
Hopefully someone with some sense will show up at the next City Council meeting and that's the last we'll hear of it.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28650627</id>
	<title>The Secret History of Lancaster, CA</title>
	<author>aquatone282</author>
	<datestamp>1247244000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was stationed at Edwards Air Force Base from 2001 - 2003.  After the burgs of Rosamond, Mojave and the tragic-comedy of California City, Lancaster-Palmdale was the closest form of civilization to the base - just a 35-mile drive from the back gate!</p><p>While there I formed the theory that Lancaster was used as a checkpoint during the Okie migration of the Great Depression (see "The Grapes of Wrath" for further details).  If you were halfway decent-looking, you were allowed to cross the San Gabriel mountains.  If you were a freak of nature, you stayed in Lancaster.</p><p>Seriously - I never saw so many ugly people in one place in my life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was stationed at Edwards Air Force Base from 2001 - 2003 .
After the burgs of Rosamond , Mojave and the tragic-comedy of California City , Lancaster-Palmdale was the closest form of civilization to the base - just a 35-mile drive from the back gate ! While there I formed the theory that Lancaster was used as a checkpoint during the Okie migration of the Great Depression ( see " The Grapes of Wrath " for further details ) .
If you were halfway decent-looking , you were allowed to cross the San Gabriel mountains .
If you were a freak of nature , you stayed in Lancaster.Seriously - I never saw so many ugly people in one place in my life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was stationed at Edwards Air Force Base from 2001 - 2003.
After the burgs of Rosamond, Mojave and the tragic-comedy of California City, Lancaster-Palmdale was the closest form of civilization to the base - just a 35-mile drive from the back gate!While there I formed the theory that Lancaster was used as a checkpoint during the Okie migration of the Great Depression (see "The Grapes of Wrath" for further details).
If you were halfway decent-looking, you were allowed to cross the San Gabriel mountains.
If you were a freak of nature, you stayed in Lancaster.Seriously - I never saw so many ugly people in one place in my life.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649033</id>
	<title>Heat seeking</title>
	<author>Synkronos</author>
	<datestamp>1247237760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From the linked article:
"During the demonstration flight, the system was used to observe a car accident, a city announcement said.

The camera detected the collision due to the heat produced by the vehicles, and within seconds focused on the area and provided a clear picture of all vehicles and people in the area."<br> <br>

Wait, what? So, light a fire somewhere far away from where you're going to commit the crime, and the camera will detect the heat and look away? What are the exact specs of this system anyway?</htmltext>
<tokenext>From the linked article : " During the demonstration flight , the system was used to observe a car accident , a city announcement said .
The camera detected the collision due to the heat produced by the vehicles , and within seconds focused on the area and provided a clear picture of all vehicles and people in the area .
" Wait , what ?
So , light a fire somewhere far away from where you 're going to commit the crime , and the camera will detect the heat and look away ?
What are the exact specs of this system anyway ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the linked article:
"During the demonstration flight, the system was used to observe a car accident, a city announcement said.
The camera detected the collision due to the heat produced by the vehicles, and within seconds focused on the area and provided a clear picture of all vehicles and people in the area.
" 

Wait, what?
So, light a fire somewhere far away from where you're going to commit the crime, and the camera will detect the heat and look away?
What are the exact specs of this system anyway?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_137239.28649373</id>
	<title>Re:City of Lancaster?</title>
	<author>martas</author>
	<datestamp>1247239080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>New York isn't stolen. The British just went back in time and made a city called York to make it <i>seem</i> like it was stolen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>New York is n't stolen .
The British just went back in time and made a city called York to make it seem like it was stolen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>New York isn't stolen.
The British just went back in time and made a city called York to make it seem like it was stolen.</sentencetext>
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