<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_07_10_0522210</id>
	<title>Can Bill Gates Prevent the Next Katrina?</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1247227260000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:theodp@aol.com" rel="nofollow">theodp</a> writes <i>"He once controlled the world's PCs. <a href="http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/One\_force\_of\_nature\_vs\_another\_Bill\_Gates\_wants\_to\_stop\_hurricanes\_50385622.html">Now Bill Gates has set his sights on controlling the world's weather.</a> And patenting it. On Thursday, the USPTO revealed that Gates and ex-Microsoft CTO <a href="http://www.intellectualventures.com/bio.aspx?id=e26036be-aefc-4333-98da-822bb698318e">Nathan Myhrvold</a> have filed five patent applications that propose using large fleets of vessels to suppress hurricanes through various methods of mixing warm water from the surface of the ocean with colder water at greater depths. The idea is to decrease the surface temperature, reducing or eliminating the heat-driven condensation that fuels the giant storms. Hey, a guy <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/1591841550/ref=dp\_image\_0?ie=UTF8&amp;n=283155&amp;s=books">can only play so much golf</a> in retirement."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>theodp writes " He once controlled the world 's PCs .
Now Bill Gates has set his sights on controlling the world 's weather .
And patenting it .
On Thursday , the USPTO revealed that Gates and ex-Microsoft CTO Nathan Myhrvold have filed five patent applications that propose using large fleets of vessels to suppress hurricanes through various methods of mixing warm water from the surface of the ocean with colder water at greater depths .
The idea is to decrease the surface temperature , reducing or eliminating the heat-driven condensation that fuels the giant storms .
Hey , a guy can only play so much golf in retirement .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>theodp writes "He once controlled the world's PCs.
Now Bill Gates has set his sights on controlling the world's weather.
And patenting it.
On Thursday, the USPTO revealed that Gates and ex-Microsoft CTO Nathan Myhrvold have filed five patent applications that propose using large fleets of vessels to suppress hurricanes through various methods of mixing warm water from the surface of the ocean with colder water at greater depths.
The idea is to decrease the surface temperature, reducing or eliminating the heat-driven condensation that fuels the giant storms.
Hey, a guy can only play so much golf in retirement.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648621</id>
	<title>Re:Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>Yvanhoe</author>
	<datestamp>1247235720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree that the size and scale they are attacking is faraminous, but I also wanted to point out two things<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:<br>
- The process patented would not need energy. In fact it uses the temperature difference between surface and deeper water to extract energy and mix the temperature, presumably while using the energy to move the boat it is attached to.<br>
- Humans have already manage to cause large-enough changes to their ecosystem to create (unintentionally) <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust\_Bowl" title="wikipedia.org">big-scale events</a> [wikipedia.org]. Alternatively, they have already made <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuiderzeewerken" title="wikipedia.org">engineering efforts</a> [wikipedia.org] of a quite larger scale than a storm.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree that the size and scale they are attacking is faraminous , but I also wanted to point out two things : - The process patented would not need energy .
In fact it uses the temperature difference between surface and deeper water to extract energy and mix the temperature , presumably while using the energy to move the boat it is attached to .
- Humans have already manage to cause large-enough changes to their ecosystem to create ( unintentionally ) big-scale events [ wikipedia.org ] .
Alternatively , they have already made engineering efforts [ wikipedia.org ] of a quite larger scale than a storm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree that the size and scale they are attacking is faraminous, but I also wanted to point out two things :
- The process patented would not need energy.
In fact it uses the temperature difference between surface and deeper water to extract energy and mix the temperature, presumably while using the energy to move the boat it is attached to.
- Humans have already manage to cause large-enough changes to their ecosystem to create (unintentionally) big-scale events [wikipedia.org].
Alternatively, they have already made engineering efforts [wikipedia.org] of a quite larger scale than a storm.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647959</id>
	<title>Familiar...</title>
	<author>UbuntuniX</author>
	<datestamp>1247231160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is Red Alert all over again!</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is Red Alert all over again !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is Red Alert all over again!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649195</id>
	<title>Re:1000 level</title>
	<author>delt0r</author>
	<datestamp>1247238480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So no one else can even try it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So no one else can even try it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So no one else can even try it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28652681</id>
	<title>SIMPSONS did it!</title>
	<author>ACAx1985</author>
	<datestamp>1247253120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>SIMPSONS did it! SIMPSONS did it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>SIMPSONS did it !
SIMPSONS did it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SIMPSONS did it!
SIMPSONS did it!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28661571</id>
	<title>Rube Goldberg</title>
	<author>chthon</author>
	<datestamp>1247337780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do I always have to think about Rube Goldberg if Bill Gates proposes a plan ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do I always have to think about Rube Goldberg if Bill Gates proposes a plan ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do I always have to think about Rube Goldberg if Bill Gates proposes a plan ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648247</id>
	<title>The Blue Sky Of Death</title>
	<author>smartin</author>
	<datestamp>1247233380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Someone had to say it</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone had to say it</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone had to say it</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648737</id>
	<title>Re:Next up!</title>
	<author>ksd1337</author>
	<datestamp>1247236500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is the Church of Scientology(TM). Please remain at your desk until the SWAT team gets there. In the meantime, please enjoy this educational pamphlet about how copyright infringement is causing world famine and global warming.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the Church of Scientology ( TM ) .
Please remain at your desk until the SWAT team gets there .
In the meantime , please enjoy this educational pamphlet about how copyright infringement is causing world famine and global warming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the Church of Scientology(TM).
Please remain at your desk until the SWAT team gets there.
In the meantime, please enjoy this educational pamphlet about how copyright infringement is causing world famine and global warming.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648645</id>
	<title>As we are heading into an ice age</title>
	<author>AHuxley</author>
	<datestamp>1247235840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... this will seem like magic.<br>
Give "me" billions and I will chemtrail the world back to good climate health<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) <br>
See the temperature is dropping<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) <br>
MS saved us all.....<br>
If MS can get the mix right, can they solve overpopulation too?... permanently? <br>

<a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/14/wetzstein-billionaires-take-aim-population/" title="washingtontimes.com">http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/14/wetzstein-billionaires-take-aim-population/</a> [washingtontimes.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>... this will seem like magic .
Give " me " billions and I will chemtrail the world back to good climate health : ) See the temperature is dropping : ) MS saved us all.... . If MS can get the mix right , can they solve overpopulation too ? .. .
permanently ? http : //www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/14/wetzstein-billionaires-take-aim-population/ [ washingtontimes.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... this will seem like magic.
Give "me" billions and I will chemtrail the world back to good climate health :) 
See the temperature is dropping :) 
MS saved us all.....
If MS can get the mix right, can they solve overpopulation too?...
permanently? 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/14/wetzstein-billionaires-take-aim-population/ [washingtontimes.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648487</id>
	<title>Re:1000 level</title>
	<author>martas</author>
	<datestamp>1247234940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>1000 level? what's that, courses for a Jedi Master certificate?</htmltext>
<tokenext>1000 level ?
what 's that , courses for a Jedi Master certificate ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1000 level?
what's that, courses for a Jedi Master certificate?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650319</id>
	<title>God said we could do anything.</title>
	<author>tjstork</author>
	<datestamp>1247242740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Genesis 11:5 &amp; 6</p><p>5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.</p><p>6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.</p><p>So, really, the old conservative argument that we could not possibly screw up the planet is contradicted by our own God, in our own Bible.  The Almighty evidently has more faith in our abilities than we!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Genesis 11 : 5 &amp; 65 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower , which the children of men builded.6 And the LORD said , Behold , the people is one , and they have all one language ; and this they begin to do : and now nothing will be restrained from them , which they have imagined to do.So , really , the old conservative argument that we could not possibly screw up the planet is contradicted by our own God , in our own Bible .
The Almighty evidently has more faith in our abilities than we !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Genesis 11:5 &amp; 65 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.So, really, the old conservative argument that we could not possibly screw up the planet is contradicted by our own God, in our own Bible.
The Almighty evidently has more faith in our abilities than we!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28651313</id>
	<title>Not good for the southeast</title>
	<author>steelclash84</author>
	<datestamp>1247246940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's a major flaw in reducing or stopping hurricanes: hurricanes are a major source of water in the southeast.  The last few seasons have been quiet, and due to this the drought levels in the southeast are critical (especially in SC).</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a major flaw in reducing or stopping hurricanes : hurricanes are a major source of water in the southeast .
The last few seasons have been quiet , and due to this the drought levels in the southeast are critical ( especially in SC ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a major flaw in reducing or stopping hurricanes: hurricanes are a major source of water in the southeast.
The last few seasons have been quiet, and due to this the drought levels in the southeast are critical (especially in SC).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28651393</id>
	<title>Typical Gates</title>
	<author>Quiet\_Desperation</author>
	<datestamp>1247247240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Take an idea that has been around for years and try to claim ownership. Seriously, getting the cold water up from the depths to sap storms of their energy is an old idea. Everything from pumps to nuclear weapons have been proposed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Take an idea that has been around for years and try to claim ownership .
Seriously , getting the cold water up from the depths to sap storms of their energy is an old idea .
Everything from pumps to nuclear weapons have been proposed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take an idea that has been around for years and try to claim ownership.
Seriously, getting the cold water up from the depths to sap storms of their energy is an old idea.
Everything from pumps to nuclear weapons have been proposed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650885</id>
	<title>Re:Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247244900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Didn't bother to RTFA, eh? He isn't trying to make warm water cold. He's moving cold water into the warm water via pumps. That's a hell of a lot easier.</i></p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; No, it's actually less efficient than a heat pump. Heat pumps are incredibly more efficient than electric motors and/or mechanical devices that lose a lot of energy as sound, vibrations and friction.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Basic physics will teach you that it doesn't matter which road you take, the energy required will be the same. That way you can work out how much energy is needed to raise a rock a certain distance above the ground using potential energy/kinetic energy formulae, OR by calculating the WORK involved (force times distance). Delta E is exactly the same.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Therefore if you have a heat pump working at close to 100\% efficiency and a mechanical pump that at best is around 40\% efficient, your mechanical pump will never "save" you energy. I chose the heat pump model to give the "theory" the greatest advantage possible, and still the amount of energy involved is staggering. Some people replied saying that 20MW is nothing, etc. I only used 1m depth (how long will 1m of water stay "cold"?), a 1 degree drop in temperature, and a 1km by 1km area. I am not sure that is what would be enough to stop a hurricane, since I'm not a meteorologist... The real cost in energy is probably several orders of magnitude greater.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; But it's not my fault if you don't understand physics.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't bother to RTFA , eh ?
He is n't trying to make warm water cold .
He 's moving cold water into the warm water via pumps .
That 's a hell of a lot easier .
      No , it 's actually less efficient than a heat pump .
Heat pumps are incredibly more efficient than electric motors and/or mechanical devices that lose a lot of energy as sound , vibrations and friction .
      Basic physics will teach you that it does n't matter which road you take , the energy required will be the same .
That way you can work out how much energy is needed to raise a rock a certain distance above the ground using potential energy/kinetic energy formulae , OR by calculating the WORK involved ( force times distance ) .
Delta E is exactly the same .
      Therefore if you have a heat pump working at close to 100 \ % efficiency and a mechanical pump that at best is around 40 \ % efficient , your mechanical pump will never " save " you energy .
I chose the heat pump model to give the " theory " the greatest advantage possible , and still the amount of energy involved is staggering .
Some people replied saying that 20MW is nothing , etc .
I only used 1m depth ( how long will 1m of water stay " cold " ?
) , a 1 degree drop in temperature , and a 1km by 1km area .
I am not sure that is what would be enough to stop a hurricane , since I 'm not a meteorologist... The real cost in energy is probably several orders of magnitude greater .
      But it 's not my fault if you do n't understand physics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't bother to RTFA, eh?
He isn't trying to make warm water cold.
He's moving cold water into the warm water via pumps.
That's a hell of a lot easier.
      No, it's actually less efficient than a heat pump.
Heat pumps are incredibly more efficient than electric motors and/or mechanical devices that lose a lot of energy as sound, vibrations and friction.
      Basic physics will teach you that it doesn't matter which road you take, the energy required will be the same.
That way you can work out how much energy is needed to raise a rock a certain distance above the ground using potential energy/kinetic energy formulae, OR by calculating the WORK involved (force times distance).
Delta E is exactly the same.
      Therefore if you have a heat pump working at close to 100\% efficiency and a mechanical pump that at best is around 40\% efficient, your mechanical pump will never "save" you energy.
I chose the heat pump model to give the "theory" the greatest advantage possible, and still the amount of energy involved is staggering.
Some people replied saying that 20MW is nothing, etc.
I only used 1m depth (how long will 1m of water stay "cold"?
), a 1 degree drop in temperature, and a 1km by 1km area.
I am not sure that is what would be enough to stop a hurricane, since I'm not a meteorologist... The real cost in energy is probably several orders of magnitude greater.
      But it's not my fault if you don't understand physics.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648427</id>
	<title>Error in logic</title>
	<author>denzacar</author>
	<datestamp>1247234640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Why would you pump cold water up? It is a heat sink. You pump the heat down.<br>2. Well THAT is the point. Do you put ice in your drink so it would just drop to the bottom or perhaps to cool the drink by absorbing the heat?</p><p>Anyway... Give Gates a LITTLE credit. The guy is NOT a moron after all.<br>RTFA - his idea is quite simple and rather carbon neutral (once you build a huge fleet of ships).<br>Basically, the idea is to use pressure and temperature differences to "pump" the warm surface water to the bottom.</p><p>Now...<br>What ecological and climate consequences might pumping huge amounts of warm water to the bottom of the ocean and disrupting natural air and water currents might have... that is a matter of FAR more research and calculation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Why would you pump cold water up ?
It is a heat sink .
You pump the heat down.2 .
Well THAT is the point .
Do you put ice in your drink so it would just drop to the bottom or perhaps to cool the drink by absorbing the heat ? Anyway... Give Gates a LITTLE credit .
The guy is NOT a moron after all.RTFA - his idea is quite simple and rather carbon neutral ( once you build a huge fleet of ships ) .Basically , the idea is to use pressure and temperature differences to " pump " the warm surface water to the bottom.Now...What ecological and climate consequences might pumping huge amounts of warm water to the bottom of the ocean and disrupting natural air and water currents might have... that is a matter of FAR more research and calculation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Why would you pump cold water up?
It is a heat sink.
You pump the heat down.2.
Well THAT is the point.
Do you put ice in your drink so it would just drop to the bottom or perhaps to cool the drink by absorbing the heat?Anyway... Give Gates a LITTLE credit.
The guy is NOT a moron after all.RTFA - his idea is quite simple and rather carbon neutral (once you build a huge fleet of ships).Basically, the idea is to use pressure and temperature differences to "pump" the warm surface water to the bottom.Now...What ecological and climate consequences might pumping huge amounts of warm water to the bottom of the ocean and disrupting natural air and water currents might have... that is a matter of FAR more research and calculation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648345</id>
	<title>Re:Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247234040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Didn't bother to RTFA, eh?  He isn't trying to make warm water cold.  He's moving cold water into the warm water via pumps.  That's a hell of a lot easier.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't bother to RTFA , eh ?
He is n't trying to make warm water cold .
He 's moving cold water into the warm water via pumps .
That 's a hell of a lot easier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't bother to RTFA, eh?
He isn't trying to make warm water cold.
He's moving cold water into the warm water via pumps.
That's a hell of a lot easier.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648083</id>
	<title>whatcouldpossiblygowrong</title>
	<author>dtml-try MyNick</author>
	<datestamp>1247232180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Where is the whatcouldpossiblygowrong tag when you need it?
<br> <br>
I don't think there has ever been a more appropriate reason to use it....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where is the whatcouldpossiblygowrong tag when you need it ?
I do n't think there has ever been a more appropriate reason to use it... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where is the whatcouldpossiblygowrong tag when you need it?
I don't think there has ever been a more appropriate reason to use it....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648517</id>
	<title>Why doesn't he just buy New Orleans?</title>
	<author>Tsu Dho Nimh</author>
	<datestamp>1247235120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Without them, and the rainfall they bring, the central USA would be a desert.

<p>Why doesn't he just buy New Orleans?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Without them , and the rainfall they bring , the central USA would be a desert .
Why does n't he just buy New Orleans ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Without them, and the rainfall they bring, the central USA would be a desert.
Why doesn't he just buy New Orleans?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650079</id>
	<title>ludicrous</title>
	<author>DarthSensate</author>
	<datestamp>1247241900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This seems ludicrous.  I can't imagine a fleet of ships being able to harness enough energy with current power sources to affect a temperature change to billions of tons of ocean water whether by circulation or thermal exchange of some sort.
<br>
<br>
Disrupting the atmospheric currents of a tropical depression BEFORE it forms a cyclone seems much more manageable.
<br>
<br>
I believe there have been a few proposals for doing just this with supersonic aircraft orbiting the eye of potential or existing hurricanes.  The coordinated positions of the shock waves on the eye wall would theoretically disrupt the rotation of the storm.  Far less energy would be required to form an interference pattern in the rotation that to super heat or pump water from ocean depths.
<br>
<br>
A patent application filed by Prof. Arkadii Leonov and his colleagues:
 <a href="http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2008094226" title="wipo.int" rel="nofollow">http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2008094226</a> [wipo.int]
Another:
 <a href="http://mb-soft.com/public/hurrican.html" title="mb-soft.com" rel="nofollow">http://mb-soft.com/public/hurrican.html</a> [mb-soft.com]
<br>
<br>
Of course, we've all seen this work with alien probes visiting trying to talk to whales.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This seems ludicrous .
I ca n't imagine a fleet of ships being able to harness enough energy with current power sources to affect a temperature change to billions of tons of ocean water whether by circulation or thermal exchange of some sort .
Disrupting the atmospheric currents of a tropical depression BEFORE it forms a cyclone seems much more manageable .
I believe there have been a few proposals for doing just this with supersonic aircraft orbiting the eye of potential or existing hurricanes .
The coordinated positions of the shock waves on the eye wall would theoretically disrupt the rotation of the storm .
Far less energy would be required to form an interference pattern in the rotation that to super heat or pump water from ocean depths .
A patent application filed by Prof. Arkadii Leonov and his colleagues : http : //www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp ? WO = 2008094226 [ wipo.int ] Another : http : //mb-soft.com/public/hurrican.html [ mb-soft.com ] Of course , we 've all seen this work with alien probes visiting trying to talk to whales .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This seems ludicrous.
I can't imagine a fleet of ships being able to harness enough energy with current power sources to affect a temperature change to billions of tons of ocean water whether by circulation or thermal exchange of some sort.
Disrupting the atmospheric currents of a tropical depression BEFORE it forms a cyclone seems much more manageable.
I believe there have been a few proposals for doing just this with supersonic aircraft orbiting the eye of potential or existing hurricanes.
The coordinated positions of the shock waves on the eye wall would theoretically disrupt the rotation of the storm.
Far less energy would be required to form an interference pattern in the rotation that to super heat or pump water from ocean depths.
A patent application filed by Prof. Arkadii Leonov and his colleagues:
 http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2008094226 [wipo.int]
Another:
 http://mb-soft.com/public/hurrican.html [mb-soft.com]


Of course, we've all seen this work with alien probes visiting trying to talk to whales.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648355</id>
	<title>This is Slashdot...</title>
	<author>maijc</author>
	<datestamp>1247234100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So no, Only RMS can Prevent Katrina {Linus can help}</htmltext>
<tokenext>So no , Only RMS can Prevent Katrina { Linus can help }</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So no, Only RMS can Prevent Katrina {Linus can help}</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28668399</id>
	<title>National Geographic</title>
	<author>Ofloo</author>
	<datestamp>1247424420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bill Gates has discovered the "National Geographic" channel<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. isn't this knowledge already known to the world !?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bill Gates has discovered the " National Geographic " channel .. is n't this knowledge already known to the world !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bill Gates has discovered the "National Geographic" channel .. isn't this knowledge already known to the world !
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28651807</id>
	<title>Re:Oblig. Dennis Miller quote</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247249760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With a plan like that, I though the Big G. was acting more like the villain Simon Bar Sinister, from the old Underdog cartoon.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon\_Bar\_Sinister" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon\_Bar\_Sinister</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Maybe he's just succumbing to Rich Person (see Howard Hughes, Michael Jackson, etc.) brain-freak disease?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With a plan like that , I though the Big G. was acting more like the villain Simon Bar Sinister , from the old Underdog cartoon.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon \ _Bar \ _Sinister [ wikipedia.org ] Maybe he 's just succumbing to Rich Person ( see Howard Hughes , Michael Jackson , etc .
) brain-freak disease ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With a plan like that, I though the Big G. was acting more like the villain Simon Bar Sinister, from the old Underdog cartoon.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon\_Bar\_Sinister [wikipedia.org]Maybe he's just succumbing to Rich Person (see Howard Hughes, Michael Jackson, etc.
) brain-freak disease?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647969</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649153</id>
	<title>Why not use OTECs?</title>
	<author>e3m4n</author>
	<datestamp>1247238300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If they are going to mix warm and deep cold water why not build OTECs and generate power while they are at it? Even in the 70's they got 4MW out of these things, I am sure they could do 10 - 15 MW per plant with modern materials and sciences.

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean\_thermal\_energy\_conversion" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean\_thermal\_energy\_conversion</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>If they are going to mix warm and deep cold water why not build OTECs and generate power while they are at it ?
Even in the 70 's they got 4MW out of these things , I am sure they could do 10 - 15 MW per plant with modern materials and sciences .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean \ _thermal \ _energy \ _conversion [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they are going to mix warm and deep cold water why not build OTECs and generate power while they are at it?
Even in the 70's they got 4MW out of these things, I am sure they could do 10 - 15 MW per plant with modern materials and sciences.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean\_thermal\_energy\_conversion [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648129</id>
	<title>Wow.</title>
	<author>XPeter</author>
	<datestamp>1247232540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He can control the weather AND Microsoft's nuclear missiles.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He can control the weather AND Microsoft 's nuclear missiles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He can control the weather AND Microsoft's nuclear missiles.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649337</id>
	<title>Re:Next up!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247238960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You may be right and one thing for sure, no one knows how to slow things down and bring them to a halt better than Bill Gates.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You may be right and one thing for sure , no one knows how to slow things down and bring them to a halt better than Bill Gates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You may be right and one thing for sure, no one knows how to slow things down and bring them to a halt better than Bill Gates.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647927</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28656227</id>
	<title>Playing God with the weather</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247229900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is nothing new. They've been playing with the earth's weather and atmospheric properties daily for decades using Chemtrails around the globe, and ionospheric heaters like HAARP, of which there are many similar stations spread around the globe.  What is new is that the NWO is now openly admitting to the big weather control game and patenting the technology is just a further move to legitimize a giant global shadow industry. Of course the sheeplefied public haven't noticed that they are being sprayed daily, but they really can't be blamed when you consider all the subliminals of chemtrails which have been strategically placed into movies, tv shows, commercials, magazine ads, etc.., to make chem skies seem completely natural. No funny business going on here...  We are really living through an Outer Limits or Twilight Zone episode. Except it's all real...  Wake up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is nothing new .
They 've been playing with the earth 's weather and atmospheric properties daily for decades using Chemtrails around the globe , and ionospheric heaters like HAARP , of which there are many similar stations spread around the globe .
What is new is that the NWO is now openly admitting to the big weather control game and patenting the technology is just a further move to legitimize a giant global shadow industry .
Of course the sheeplefied public have n't noticed that they are being sprayed daily , but they really ca n't be blamed when you consider all the subliminals of chemtrails which have been strategically placed into movies , tv shows , commercials , magazine ads , etc.. , to make chem skies seem completely natural .
No funny business going on here... We are really living through an Outer Limits or Twilight Zone episode .
Except it 's all real... Wake up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is nothing new.
They've been playing with the earth's weather and atmospheric properties daily for decades using Chemtrails around the globe, and ionospheric heaters like HAARP, of which there are many similar stations spread around the globe.
What is new is that the NWO is now openly admitting to the big weather control game and patenting the technology is just a further move to legitimize a giant global shadow industry.
Of course the sheeplefied public haven't noticed that they are being sprayed daily, but they really can't be blamed when you consider all the subliminals of chemtrails which have been strategically placed into movies, tv shows, commercials, magazine ads, etc.., to make chem skies seem completely natural.
No funny business going on here...  We are really living through an Outer Limits or Twilight Zone episode.
Except it's all real...  Wake up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647997</id>
	<title>GOD mode</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247231460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OMG he is god HeadOn. Apply directly to the forehead</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OMG he is god HeadOn .
Apply directly to the forehead</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OMG he is god HeadOn.
Apply directly to the forehead</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648229</id>
	<title>Where? Why, that's simple...</title>
	<author>denzacar</author>
	<datestamp>1247233320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just think of all those tiny windows flags. Fluttering in the wind.</p><p>ALWAYS fluttering in the wind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just think of all those tiny windows flags .
Fluttering in the wind.ALWAYS fluttering in the wind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just think of all those tiny windows flags.
Fluttering in the wind.ALWAYS fluttering in the wind.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647929</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648627</id>
	<title>Re:Next up!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247235780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And he will laugh maniacally, when the change in nature's cycles creates huge storms that wipe out entire Europe and half of Africa.</p><p>Seriously, why do people <em>still</em> not understand, that everything in nature is a system of sensitive balanced cycles, and when you change things, you have to make a new working cycle or at least balance it all out again, to not create a catastrophe in the long term?<br>Maybe because they still can. And because when it happens, they are long dead, or it does not affect them.</p><p>Well I bet his method will be just as elegant and as well-integrating as Windows.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And he will laugh maniacally , when the change in nature 's cycles creates huge storms that wipe out entire Europe and half of Africa.Seriously , why do people still not understand , that everything in nature is a system of sensitive balanced cycles , and when you change things , you have to make a new working cycle or at least balance it all out again , to not create a catastrophe in the long term ? Maybe because they still can .
And because when it happens , they are long dead , or it does not affect them.Well I bet his method will be just as elegant and as well-integrating as Windows .
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And he will laugh maniacally, when the change in nature's cycles creates huge storms that wipe out entire Europe and half of Africa.Seriously, why do people still not understand, that everything in nature is a system of sensitive balanced cycles, and when you change things, you have to make a new working cycle or at least balance it all out again, to not create a catastrophe in the long term?Maybe because they still can.
And because when it happens, they are long dead, or it does not affect them.Well I bet his method will be just as elegant and as well-integrating as Windows.
:P</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647927</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28657521</id>
	<title>Re:Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247244000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Easier?</p><p>How much energy will it take to lift thousands of gallons of water a minute from hundreds if not thousands of feet below the ocean surface?  How many ships doing this will it take to have a noticeable impact?  You sir, have an absurd concept of easy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Easier ? How much energy will it take to lift thousands of gallons of water a minute from hundreds if not thousands of feet below the ocean surface ?
How many ships doing this will it take to have a noticeable impact ?
You sir , have an absurd concept of easy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Easier?How much energy will it take to lift thousands of gallons of water a minute from hundreds if not thousands of feet below the ocean surface?
How many ships doing this will it take to have a noticeable impact?
You sir, have an absurd concept of easy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648345</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28662069</id>
	<title>Re:The Mad Scientist Stuff is the Point!</title>
	<author>dodobh</author>
	<datestamp>1247341800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then you just get a few billion starving people migrating into your country. It doesn't matter how many you kill, because they have nothing to lose.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then you just get a few billion starving people migrating into your country .
It does n't matter how many you kill , because they have nothing to lose .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then you just get a few billion starving people migrating into your country.
It doesn't matter how many you kill, because they have nothing to lose.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650375</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28653883</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>Muros</author>
	<datestamp>1247258040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is what I was thinking as soon as I read the article.   Even if it works (and the theory seems valid if they could do it on a massive enough scale, but it would have to be MASSSIVE) what else are you screwing up by doing this?</p> </div><p>I'd be much more worried that it would create BIGGER hurricanes. Storing up all that energy locally, causing the higher latitudes to become colder... I can just see it in my head, a MASSIVE cold air front coming down from the north atlantic into an area of ocean where Bill's been saving up hot water like crazy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is what I was thinking as soon as I read the article .
Even if it works ( and the theory seems valid if they could do it on a massive enough scale , but it would have to be MASSSIVE ) what else are you screwing up by doing this ?
I 'd be much more worried that it would create BIGGER hurricanes .
Storing up all that energy locally , causing the higher latitudes to become colder... I can just see it in my head , a MASSIVE cold air front coming down from the north atlantic into an area of ocean where Bill 's been saving up hot water like crazy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is what I was thinking as soon as I read the article.
Even if it works (and the theory seems valid if they could do it on a massive enough scale, but it would have to be MASSSIVE) what else are you screwing up by doing this?
I'd be much more worried that it would create BIGGER hurricanes.
Storing up all that energy locally, causing the higher latitudes to become colder... I can just see it in my head, a MASSIVE cold air front coming down from the north atlantic into an area of ocean where Bill's been saving up hot water like crazy.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648703</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648683</id>
	<title>BSOD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247236140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>BSOD will take on a new meaning: Blue Sea Of Death.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>BSOD will take on a new meaning : Blue Sea Of Death .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>BSOD will take on a new meaning: Blue Sea Of Death.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650253</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247242500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah the 1/3 of the country that gets rain from the tropics thinks this is a great idea. I think stupid people (most people including yourself) should stick to their stupid little lives where their stupid little decisions aren't going to interfere with real men. Thank you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah the 1/3 of the country that gets rain from the tropics thinks this is a great idea .
I think stupid people ( most people including yourself ) should stick to their stupid little lives where their stupid little decisions are n't going to interfere with real men .
Thank you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah the 1/3 of the country that gets rain from the tropics thinks this is a great idea.
I think stupid people (most people including yourself) should stick to their stupid little lives where their stupid little decisions aren't going to interfere with real men.
Thank you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648371</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650357</id>
	<title>whoey</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247242920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Undoubtedly it will result in a Blue Sky of Death<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Undoubtedly it will result in a Blue Sky of Death : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Undoubtedly it will result in a Blue Sky of Death :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648303</id>
	<title>BSOD</title>
	<author>DeafZombie</author>
	<datestamp>1247233800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can't wait to see the Blue Sky Of Death when the system crashes....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't wait to see the Blue Sky Of Death when the system crashes... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't wait to see the Blue Sky Of Death when the system crashes....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647929</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28653391</id>
	<title>Reverse the process and you've got a</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247255880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder if it'd be possible to generate a katrina in the same way, and attack a country!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if it 'd be possible to generate a katrina in the same way , and attack a country !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if it'd be possible to generate a katrina in the same way, and attack a country!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28657195</id>
	<title>In other news...</title>
	<author>EmagGeek</author>
	<datestamp>1247239680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bill Gates has applied for a patent on emptying swimming pools using only thimbles...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bill Gates has applied for a patent on emptying swimming pools using only thimbles.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bill Gates has applied for a patent on emptying swimming pools using only thimbles...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650411</id>
	<title>Question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247243100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>And... he's going to use HOW MUCH FOSSIL FUEL pumping all of this ocean water???

hmmm...</htmltext>
<tokenext>And... he 's going to use HOW MUCH FOSSIL FUEL pumping all of this ocean water ? ? ?
hmmm.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And... he's going to use HOW MUCH FOSSIL FUEL pumping all of this ocean water???
hmmm...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650605</id>
	<title>Re:Anyone who thinks they can change the weather..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247243880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Arrogance and stupidity are nice traits when expressed together. Clearly you're an idiot. However, I am amused by your totally unsubstantiated energy comparisons. I'm confident that not only do you have no idea how to compare relative energies, but I would wager you don't even know how to define or measure them, which makes your authoritative statement all that more amusing. <br>
&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp; Only an idiot (such as yourself) would think to suppress a large active hurricane. Other more intelligent and educated people learned from study (not unsubstantiated guesswork) that the formation of such events, as with all meteorological phenomena, begin from comparably delicate, low energy circumstances. The initial conditions are the target of such weather controlling schemes.</p><p>Get lost. Please never talk about science or reality again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Arrogance and stupidity are nice traits when expressed together .
Clearly you 're an idiot .
However , I am amused by your totally unsubstantiated energy comparisons .
I 'm confident that not only do you have no idea how to compare relative energies , but I would wager you do n't even know how to define or measure them , which makes your authoritative statement all that more amusing .
    Only an idiot ( such as yourself ) would think to suppress a large active hurricane .
Other more intelligent and educated people learned from study ( not unsubstantiated guesswork ) that the formation of such events , as with all meteorological phenomena , begin from comparably delicate , low energy circumstances .
The initial conditions are the target of such weather controlling schemes.Get lost .
Please never talk about science or reality again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Arrogance and stupidity are nice traits when expressed together.
Clearly you're an idiot.
However, I am amused by your totally unsubstantiated energy comparisons.
I'm confident that not only do you have no idea how to compare relative energies, but I would wager you don't even know how to define or measure them, which makes your authoritative statement all that more amusing.
  
  Only an idiot (such as yourself) would think to suppress a large active hurricane.
Other more intelligent and educated people learned from study (not unsubstantiated guesswork) that the formation of such events, as with all meteorological phenomena, begin from comparably delicate, low energy circumstances.
The initial conditions are the target of such weather controlling schemes.Get lost.
Please never talk about science or reality again.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648435</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648155</id>
	<title>Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1247232780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The idea is to decrease the surface temperature, reducing or eliminating the heat-driven condensation that fuels the giant storms.</i></p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Ludicrous, ridiculous, etc. NOTHING man can do on this planet can even begin to compare to the scale of energies involved in natural phenomena. There exists something called the British Thermal Unit. It's the amount of ENERGY required to heat (or cool) one pound of (fresh) water by one degree. Considering that one gallon of water is roughly 8 lbs, and one BTU is approximately equivalent to 1054 Joules, it takes close to 8000 Joules per gallon of water to cool it - in an hour. Plus I am assuming that an electric pump is just as efficient as a simple heat exchanger like an air conditioner, or a hot plate for that matter. Let's ignore all the friction in the kilometers of pipe, too.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Now exactly how many TRILLIONS of gallons of water does Mr. Gates wish to cool by one degree? Assuming all you want to cool is the first 1 meter of depth of a 1 km x 1km patch of water contains 1 billion litres of water (around 264 million gallons). This would require at least 2.1 * 10^12 Joules of energy. And remember you have to deliver it in a limited time, in the path of the storm (which can change at any time - in fact is MORE LIKELY to change if you start cooling water ahead of it)? And let's not forget during the daytime you have to also account for sunlight, which will make your cooling process less efficient.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Then let's not forget about all the life forms whose habitats will be altered by changing the water temperatures ever so slightly, especially by heating the bottom of the ocean by a few degrees (as if that was possible to be done by man).</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; It would probably be much more energy efficient to evacuate the entire population of the coasts involved AND rebuild the damage.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; If the USPTO approves this, wait, no - they probably will. I at least would demand a working prototype, just like what was done for the warp drive someone tried to patent.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I have never heard anything so stupid come from someone so smart. But then again we live in an era where politicians would have us believe that we humans are responsible for global warming, too...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The idea is to decrease the surface temperature , reducing or eliminating the heat-driven condensation that fuels the giant storms .
      Ludicrous , ridiculous , etc .
NOTHING man can do on this planet can even begin to compare to the scale of energies involved in natural phenomena .
There exists something called the British Thermal Unit .
It 's the amount of ENERGY required to heat ( or cool ) one pound of ( fresh ) water by one degree .
Considering that one gallon of water is roughly 8 lbs , and one BTU is approximately equivalent to 1054 Joules , it takes close to 8000 Joules per gallon of water to cool it - in an hour .
Plus I am assuming that an electric pump is just as efficient as a simple heat exchanger like an air conditioner , or a hot plate for that matter .
Let 's ignore all the friction in the kilometers of pipe , too .
      Now exactly how many TRILLIONS of gallons of water does Mr. Gates wish to cool by one degree ?
Assuming all you want to cool is the first 1 meter of depth of a 1 km x 1km patch of water contains 1 billion litres of water ( around 264 million gallons ) .
This would require at least 2.1 * 10 ^ 12 Joules of energy .
And remember you have to deliver it in a limited time , in the path of the storm ( which can change at any time - in fact is MORE LIKELY to change if you start cooling water ahead of it ) ?
And let 's not forget during the daytime you have to also account for sunlight , which will make your cooling process less efficient .
      Then let 's not forget about all the life forms whose habitats will be altered by changing the water temperatures ever so slightly , especially by heating the bottom of the ocean by a few degrees ( as if that was possible to be done by man ) .
      It would probably be much more energy efficient to evacuate the entire population of the coasts involved AND rebuild the damage .
      If the USPTO approves this , wait , no - they probably will .
I at least would demand a working prototype , just like what was done for the warp drive someone tried to patent .
      I have never heard anything so stupid come from someone so smart .
But then again we live in an era where politicians would have us believe that we humans are responsible for global warming , too.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The idea is to decrease the surface temperature, reducing or eliminating the heat-driven condensation that fuels the giant storms.
      Ludicrous, ridiculous, etc.
NOTHING man can do on this planet can even begin to compare to the scale of energies involved in natural phenomena.
There exists something called the British Thermal Unit.
It's the amount of ENERGY required to heat (or cool) one pound of (fresh) water by one degree.
Considering that one gallon of water is roughly 8 lbs, and one BTU is approximately equivalent to 1054 Joules, it takes close to 8000 Joules per gallon of water to cool it - in an hour.
Plus I am assuming that an electric pump is just as efficient as a simple heat exchanger like an air conditioner, or a hot plate for that matter.
Let's ignore all the friction in the kilometers of pipe, too.
      Now exactly how many TRILLIONS of gallons of water does Mr. Gates wish to cool by one degree?
Assuming all you want to cool is the first 1 meter of depth of a 1 km x 1km patch of water contains 1 billion litres of water (around 264 million gallons).
This would require at least 2.1 * 10^12 Joules of energy.
And remember you have to deliver it in a limited time, in the path of the storm (which can change at any time - in fact is MORE LIKELY to change if you start cooling water ahead of it)?
And let's not forget during the daytime you have to also account for sunlight, which will make your cooling process less efficient.
      Then let's not forget about all the life forms whose habitats will be altered by changing the water temperatures ever so slightly, especially by heating the bottom of the ocean by a few degrees (as if that was possible to be done by man).
      It would probably be much more energy efficient to evacuate the entire population of the coasts involved AND rebuild the damage.
      If the USPTO approves this, wait, no - they probably will.
I at least would demand a working prototype, just like what was done for the warp drive someone tried to patent.
      I have never heard anything so stupid come from someone so smart.
But then again we live in an era where politicians would have us believe that we humans are responsible for global warming, too...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649363</id>
	<title>So it's actually working</title>
	<author>SpaghettiPattern</author>
	<datestamp>1247239020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>By applying for a patent the referred technology surely has been proven to work. That is, he successfully implemented prototypes.<br> <br>

Or maybe not and he's trying to stifle people that really want to make a difference and to make money from litigation. What else?<br> <br>

The lack of evidence -who deploys huge scale experiments without the world taking note- supports my theory -which a five year old could come up with.</htmltext>
<tokenext>By applying for a patent the referred technology surely has been proven to work .
That is , he successfully implemented prototypes .
Or maybe not and he 's trying to stifle people that really want to make a difference and to make money from litigation .
What else ?
The lack of evidence -who deploys huge scale experiments without the world taking note- supports my theory -which a five year old could come up with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By applying for a patent the referred technology surely has been proven to work.
That is, he successfully implemented prototypes.
Or maybe not and he's trying to stifle people that really want to make a difference and to make money from litigation.
What else?
The lack of evidence -who deploys huge scale experiments without the world taking note- supports my theory -which a five year old could come up with.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648009</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>FroBugg</author>
	<datestamp>1247231580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They don't. That was one of the (many) problems with Project Stormfury, the government attempt to disrupt hurricanes with cloud seeding back in the 1960's. You don't get enough data to run any kind of reliable control. So not only do you not know for sure whether you're making a difference or not, you don't even know whether you're making things worse or not.</p><p>Unless they can somehow manage to drive their fleet into every forming hurricane and make every single one suddenly fall apart, any success they claim is going to be very open to interpretation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They do n't .
That was one of the ( many ) problems with Project Stormfury , the government attempt to disrupt hurricanes with cloud seeding back in the 1960 's .
You do n't get enough data to run any kind of reliable control .
So not only do you not know for sure whether you 're making a difference or not , you do n't even know whether you 're making things worse or not.Unless they can somehow manage to drive their fleet into every forming hurricane and make every single one suddenly fall apart , any success they claim is going to be very open to interpretation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They don't.
That was one of the (many) problems with Project Stormfury, the government attempt to disrupt hurricanes with cloud seeding back in the 1960's.
You don't get enough data to run any kind of reliable control.
So not only do you not know for sure whether you're making a difference or not, you don't even know whether you're making things worse or not.Unless they can somehow manage to drive their fleet into every forming hurricane and make every single one suddenly fall apart, any success they claim is going to be very open to interpretation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648801</id>
	<title>Nothing is beyond mankind.</title>
	<author>tjstork</author>
	<datestamp>1247236800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>NOTHING man can do on this planet can even begin to compare to the scale of energies involved in natural phenomena</i></p><p>Thermonuclear weapons do not naturally occur on earth.  The only E=MC^2 that occurs in nature is in a start.  Man can do it anywhere he chooses.  And, even in chemical reactions, we have figured out all the good ones.</p><p><i>This would require at least 2.1 * 10^12 Joules of energy.</i></p><p>Well, first off, you have to assume that he would not be extracting the energy from the ocean and in some clever way use the ocean to pump itself.  But, be that as it may... remember that we can say that a joule is a watt in a second, and we can use time to reduce our peak energy needs.  If you run the process continuously, you'd find that you'd need only about 20MW of peak power applied to get her done in a day.  You figure, a nuclear submarine by itself has a 40-50MW reactor on board, and we have on land 1000MW nukes under construction.  If you had a big nuke on board an ocean going vessel, you could do all sorts of ocean processing with it, at least from an energy perspective.</p><p><i>I have never heard anything so stupid come from someone so smart. </i></p><p>A lot of Gate's rivals said the same thing... Phillipe Kahn, are you there?  I would not be so quick to dismiss Gates on this issue.</p><p><i>But then again we live in an era where politicians would have us believe that we humans are responsible for global warming, too...</i></p><p>You underestimate mankind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NOTHING man can do on this planet can even begin to compare to the scale of energies involved in natural phenomenaThermonuclear weapons do not naturally occur on earth .
The only E = MC ^ 2 that occurs in nature is in a start .
Man can do it anywhere he chooses .
And , even in chemical reactions , we have figured out all the good ones.This would require at least 2.1 * 10 ^ 12 Joules of energy.Well , first off , you have to assume that he would not be extracting the energy from the ocean and in some clever way use the ocean to pump itself .
But , be that as it may... remember that we can say that a joule is a watt in a second , and we can use time to reduce our peak energy needs .
If you run the process continuously , you 'd find that you 'd need only about 20MW of peak power applied to get her done in a day .
You figure , a nuclear submarine by itself has a 40-50MW reactor on board , and we have on land 1000MW nukes under construction .
If you had a big nuke on board an ocean going vessel , you could do all sorts of ocean processing with it , at least from an energy perspective.I have never heard anything so stupid come from someone so smart .
A lot of Gate 's rivals said the same thing... Phillipe Kahn , are you there ?
I would not be so quick to dismiss Gates on this issue.But then again we live in an era where politicians would have us believe that we humans are responsible for global warming , too...You underestimate mankind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NOTHING man can do on this planet can even begin to compare to the scale of energies involved in natural phenomenaThermonuclear weapons do not naturally occur on earth.
The only E=MC^2 that occurs in nature is in a start.
Man can do it anywhere he chooses.
And, even in chemical reactions, we have figured out all the good ones.This would require at least 2.1 * 10^12 Joules of energy.Well, first off, you have to assume that he would not be extracting the energy from the ocean and in some clever way use the ocean to pump itself.
But, be that as it may... remember that we can say that a joule is a watt in a second, and we can use time to reduce our peak energy needs.
If you run the process continuously, you'd find that you'd need only about 20MW of peak power applied to get her done in a day.
You figure, a nuclear submarine by itself has a 40-50MW reactor on board, and we have on land 1000MW nukes under construction.
If you had a big nuke on board an ocean going vessel, you could do all sorts of ocean processing with it, at least from an energy perspective.I have never heard anything so stupid come from someone so smart.
A lot of Gate's rivals said the same thing... Phillipe Kahn, are you there?
I would not be so quick to dismiss Gates on this issue.But then again we live in an era where politicians would have us believe that we humans are responsible for global warming, too...You underestimate mankind.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28651751</id>
	<title>No but....</title>
	<author>gemada</author>
	<datestamp>1247249460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>all those chairs could make a nice dam around New Orleans.</htmltext>
<tokenext>all those chairs could make a nice dam around New Orleans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>all those chairs could make a nice dam around New Orleans.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648051</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>ByOhTek</author>
	<datestamp>1247231940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can use 10, 15, 20, etc. year averages, you can look at trends.</p><p>You can also look at weather patterns in an area, and determine how likely, historically, those weather patterns lead to storms, and then compare that to how likely they lead to storms "after treatment".</p><p>Determining success/failure won't be trivial, but it won't be anything resembling impossible either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can use 10 , 15 , 20 , etc .
year averages , you can look at trends.You can also look at weather patterns in an area , and determine how likely , historically , those weather patterns lead to storms , and then compare that to how likely they lead to storms " after treatment " .Determining success/failure wo n't be trivial , but it wo n't be anything resembling impossible either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can use 10, 15, 20, etc.
year averages, you can look at trends.You can also look at weather patterns in an area, and determine how likely, historically, those weather patterns lead to storms, and then compare that to how likely they lead to storms "after treatment".Determining success/failure won't be trivial, but it won't be anything resembling impossible either.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648179</id>
	<title>Oh, I don't know, but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247232960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I figure it will probably be the same pseudo science employed by Gore.</p><p>In other words, claims of consensus, its for the children, we're smarter than you, and such should suffice.</p><p>Any reduction in storms proves their process works, any increase proves it wasn't executed properly and would work with more money and adherence to their process.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I figure it will probably be the same pseudo science employed by Gore.In other words , claims of consensus , its for the children , we 're smarter than you , and such should suffice.Any reduction in storms proves their process works , any increase proves it was n't executed properly and would work with more money and adherence to their process .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I figure it will probably be the same pseudo science employed by Gore.In other words, claims of consensus, its for the children, we're smarter than you, and such should suffice.Any reduction in storms proves their process works, any increase proves it wasn't executed properly and would work with more money and adherence to their process.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28653087</id>
	<title>Re:I already thought of this!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247254560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I dunno, sounds like maybe you owe Bill a license fee. Maybe he'll let it slide this time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I dunno , sounds like maybe you owe Bill a license fee .
Maybe he 'll let it slide this time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dunno, sounds like maybe you owe Bill a license fee.
Maybe he'll let it slide this time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648089</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>JustOK</author>
	<datestamp>1247232240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd at least wait for the first service pack before I install it on my planet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd at least wait for the first service pack before I install it on my planet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd at least wait for the first service pack before I install it on my planet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647969</id>
	<title>Oblig. Dennis Miller quote</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247231220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Face it - Bill Gates is a about a white Persian cat and a monocle away from being a Bond villain."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Face it - Bill Gates is a about a white Persian cat and a monocle away from being a Bond villain .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Face it - Bill Gates is a about a white Persian cat and a monocle away from being a Bond villain.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28661017</id>
	<title>Re:Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>Livius</author>
	<datestamp>1247333940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Gates is trying to patent basic heat transfer.  I'm sure I saw some prior art in Grade 2.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Gates is trying to patent basic heat transfer .
I 'm sure I saw some prior art in Grade 2 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gates is trying to patent basic heat transfer.
I'm sure I saw some prior art in Grade 2.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648015</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1247231640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Lets say they implement this sort of thing..



How will they ever know that they reduced the number of storms?



The number of storms on a yearly basis is anything but consistent.</p></div><p>This is true--you wouldn't know instantly that you stopped a storm for sure.  But as the length of time goes up without a hurricane, your confidence level rises until you surpass some threshold which is the longest distance of time between hurricanes.  I'm sure meteorologists would like to speculate that the conditions are right but a new factor is stopping these storms.  You'll just never really know.  <br> <br>

Now, there's a lot of things you don't know whether or not you're changing.  Such as the natural cycle of hurricanes influencing unknown factors like wildlife or pressure systems in other areas or rainfall up the East Coast being reduced resulting in lower crop yields and dryer soil?  What effect (if any) will pumping this warm water down and cool water up have on the wildlife or natural currents of the ocean?  It's warm and cold bodies of air that create natural cycling of air, I assume the same is true for water.  If water went still, it might be great for us but bad for wildlife.  I think there's a lot of questions one could raise about this.  I'm not arguing against it, I just hope this is taken into consideration.  <br> <br>

I mean, this 'weather control' should be used sparingly and I hope they don't take this to the next level and use airships to diffuse hot/cold fronts so that we don't get thunderstorms so that my power isn't knocked out for a few hours while my roommate complains he can't watch the latest episode of True Blood right away.  Preventing hurricanes is a neat idea and I hope this works, I just hope there's not hidden costs like the rest of Bill's products.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
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<tokenext>Lets say they implement this sort of thing. . How will they ever know that they reduced the number of storms ?
The number of storms on a yearly basis is anything but consistent.This is true--you would n't know instantly that you stopped a storm for sure .
But as the length of time goes up without a hurricane , your confidence level rises until you surpass some threshold which is the longest distance of time between hurricanes .
I 'm sure meteorologists would like to speculate that the conditions are right but a new factor is stopping these storms .
You 'll just never really know .
Now , there 's a lot of things you do n't know whether or not you 're changing .
Such as the natural cycle of hurricanes influencing unknown factors like wildlife or pressure systems in other areas or rainfall up the East Coast being reduced resulting in lower crop yields and dryer soil ?
What effect ( if any ) will pumping this warm water down and cool water up have on the wildlife or natural currents of the ocean ?
It 's warm and cold bodies of air that create natural cycling of air , I assume the same is true for water .
If water went still , it might be great for us but bad for wildlife .
I think there 's a lot of questions one could raise about this .
I 'm not arguing against it , I just hope this is taken into consideration .
I mean , this 'weather control ' should be used sparingly and I hope they do n't take this to the next level and use airships to diffuse hot/cold fronts so that we do n't get thunderstorms so that my power is n't knocked out for a few hours while my roommate complains he ca n't watch the latest episode of True Blood right away .
Preventing hurricanes is a neat idea and I hope this works , I just hope there 's not hidden costs like the rest of Bill 's products .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lets say they implement this sort of thing..



How will they ever know that they reduced the number of storms?
The number of storms on a yearly basis is anything but consistent.This is true--you wouldn't know instantly that you stopped a storm for sure.
But as the length of time goes up without a hurricane, your confidence level rises until you surpass some threshold which is the longest distance of time between hurricanes.
I'm sure meteorologists would like to speculate that the conditions are right but a new factor is stopping these storms.
You'll just never really know.
Now, there's a lot of things you don't know whether or not you're changing.
Such as the natural cycle of hurricanes influencing unknown factors like wildlife or pressure systems in other areas or rainfall up the East Coast being reduced resulting in lower crop yields and dryer soil?
What effect (if any) will pumping this warm water down and cool water up have on the wildlife or natural currents of the ocean?
It's warm and cold bodies of air that create natural cycling of air, I assume the same is true for water.
If water went still, it might be great for us but bad for wildlife.
I think there's a lot of questions one could raise about this.
I'm not arguing against it, I just hope this is taken into consideration.
I mean, this 'weather control' should be used sparingly and I hope they don't take this to the next level and use airships to diffuse hot/cold fronts so that we don't get thunderstorms so that my power isn't knocked out for a few hours while my roommate complains he can't watch the latest episode of True Blood right away.
Preventing hurricanes is a neat idea and I hope this works, I just hope there's not hidden costs like the rest of Bill's products.
:)
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648099</id>
	<title>The first thing I thought ...</title>
	<author>krou</author>
	<datestamp>1247232300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Weather man: The sky is lovely and blue today<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>
Us: ZOMG! Blue skyz of deathz!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Weather man : The sky is lovely and blue today .. . Us : ZOMG !
Blue skyz of deathz !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Weather man: The sky is lovely and blue today ...
Us: ZOMG!
Blue skyz of deathz!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649211</id>
	<title>Re:Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1247238540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>He's moving cold water into the warm water via pumps</p></div><p>That sounds incredibly inefficient. At least he could use a bucket rather than shoes.</p></div>
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<tokenext>He 's moving cold water into the warm water via pumpsThat sounds incredibly inefficient .
At least he could use a bucket rather than shoes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's moving cold water into the warm water via pumpsThat sounds incredibly inefficient.
At least he could use a bucket rather than shoes.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649849</id>
	<title>Re:Anyone who thinks they can change the weather..</title>
	<author>Hays</author>
	<datestamp>1247241000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh get off it. You're just being a contrary to the point of hyperbole. And you're completely wrong.<br>Go read <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical\_cyclone" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical\_cyclone</a> [wikipedia.org]<br>"This rate of energy release is equivalent to 70 times the world energy consumption of humans and 200 times the worldwide electrical generating capacity, or to exploding a 10-megaton nuclear bomb every 20 minutes."</p><p>Wikipedia also says that all nuclear testing amounted to 510 megatons of energy released.<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear\_weapon\_yield" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear\_weapon\_yield</a> [wikipedia.org]<br>I don't know how that related to all "all explosives ever detonated", but assuming that is the total, then it would take a hurricane ~1,000 minutes to match the energy. You were off by a factor of at minimum 1,000 with your hyperbole.</p><p>Now, disregarding that, you're simply wrong that we can't influence hurricanes. It's simple math. If the water 100m below the surface if 5 degrees cooler, and we clearly understand how every change in water surface temperature influences hurricane strength, you can easily calculate how much energy we need to expand to pump that water up and how long it will stay there before convecting back down, etc... You can come up with a straightforward figure for how many joules our fleet needs to expend, and judging by this patent, it's not an astronomical figure.</p><p>Stop spouting this whole "noble nature" myth. Humans got to be a successful, spacefaring civilization by engineering the hell out of our environment. Our water system, the land, etc. This is just the next step.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh get off it .
You 're just being a contrary to the point of hyperbole .
And you 're completely wrong.Go read http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical \ _cyclone [ wikipedia.org ] " This rate of energy release is equivalent to 70 times the world energy consumption of humans and 200 times the worldwide electrical generating capacity , or to exploding a 10-megaton nuclear bomb every 20 minutes .
" Wikipedia also says that all nuclear testing amounted to 510 megatons of energy released.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear \ _weapon \ _yield [ wikipedia.org ] I do n't know how that related to all " all explosives ever detonated " , but assuming that is the total , then it would take a hurricane ~ 1,000 minutes to match the energy .
You were off by a factor of at minimum 1,000 with your hyperbole.Now , disregarding that , you 're simply wrong that we ca n't influence hurricanes .
It 's simple math .
If the water 100m below the surface if 5 degrees cooler , and we clearly understand how every change in water surface temperature influences hurricane strength , you can easily calculate how much energy we need to expand to pump that water up and how long it will stay there before convecting back down , etc... You can come up with a straightforward figure for how many joules our fleet needs to expend , and judging by this patent , it 's not an astronomical figure.Stop spouting this whole " noble nature " myth .
Humans got to be a successful , spacefaring civilization by engineering the hell out of our environment .
Our water system , the land , etc .
This is just the next step .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh get off it.
You're just being a contrary to the point of hyperbole.
And you're completely wrong.Go read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical\_cyclone [wikipedia.org]"This rate of energy release is equivalent to 70 times the world energy consumption of humans and 200 times the worldwide electrical generating capacity, or to exploding a 10-megaton nuclear bomb every 20 minutes.
"Wikipedia also says that all nuclear testing amounted to 510 megatons of energy released.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear\_weapon\_yield [wikipedia.org]I don't know how that related to all "all explosives ever detonated", but assuming that is the total, then it would take a hurricane ~1,000 minutes to match the energy.
You were off by a factor of at minimum 1,000 with your hyperbole.Now, disregarding that, you're simply wrong that we can't influence hurricanes.
It's simple math.
If the water 100m below the surface if 5 degrees cooler, and we clearly understand how every change in water surface temperature influences hurricane strength, you can easily calculate how much energy we need to expand to pump that water up and how long it will stay there before convecting back down, etc... You can come up with a straightforward figure for how many joules our fleet needs to expend, and judging by this patent, it's not an astronomical figure.Stop spouting this whole "noble nature" myth.
Humans got to be a successful, spacefaring civilization by engineering the hell out of our environment.
Our water system, the land, etc.
This is just the next step.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648609</id>
	<title>No need...</title>
	<author>OakDragon</author>
	<datestamp>1247235660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...George Bush caused Katrina, and he's out of office now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...George Bush caused Katrina , and he 's out of office now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...George Bush caused Katrina, and he's out of office now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649383</id>
	<title>This just moves the problem elsewhere</title>
	<author>petes\_PoV</author>
	<datestamp>1247239140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Replace the warm surface water with colder deep water. Then the warm water will just reappear somewhere else. Unless this guy can actually <b>remove</b> heat from the system, he's just moving the problem around (and possibly storing up a bigger problem for later), not fixing it.
<p>
It's like using a leaf-blower. If doesn't get rid of the leaves, just moves them to somewhere else. If that "somewhere else" is is still on your property (or in the same ocean) then the problem hasn't been solved - merely pushed around a bit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Replace the warm surface water with colder deep water .
Then the warm water will just reappear somewhere else .
Unless this guy can actually remove heat from the system , he 's just moving the problem around ( and possibly storing up a bigger problem for later ) , not fixing it .
It 's like using a leaf-blower .
If does n't get rid of the leaves , just moves them to somewhere else .
If that " somewhere else " is is still on your property ( or in the same ocean ) then the problem has n't been solved - merely pushed around a bit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Replace the warm surface water with colder deep water.
Then the warm water will just reappear somewhere else.
Unless this guy can actually remove heat from the system, he's just moving the problem around (and possibly storing up a bigger problem for later), not fixing it.
It's like using a leaf-blower.
If doesn't get rid of the leaves, just moves them to somewhere else.
If that "somewhere else" is is still on your property (or in the same ocean) then the problem hasn't been solved - merely pushed around a bit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648967</id>
	<title>Steer One at our Enemies (whoever they are)</title>
	<author>failcomm</author>
	<datestamp>1247237460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree that this is almost certainly bullsh*t, but I have to throw out the suggestion that possibly they are only talking about deflecting or steering a storm away from heavily-populated areas. It takes a lot less energy to dig a channel for a boulder rolling down hill to follow than to build a brick wall capable of stopping it cold.

And of course, like any good American it is easy for me to then make the jump to <i>weaponizing</i> the damn thing - if you can steer it, maybe you can point it at your enemies (not that I have anyone in mind, President Chavez)...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree that this is almost certainly bullsh * t , but I have to throw out the suggestion that possibly they are only talking about deflecting or steering a storm away from heavily-populated areas .
It takes a lot less energy to dig a channel for a boulder rolling down hill to follow than to build a brick wall capable of stopping it cold .
And of course , like any good American it is easy for me to then make the jump to weaponizing the damn thing - if you can steer it , maybe you can point it at your enemies ( not that I have anyone in mind , President Chavez ) .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree that this is almost certainly bullsh*t, but I have to throw out the suggestion that possibly they are only talking about deflecting or steering a storm away from heavily-populated areas.
It takes a lot less energy to dig a channel for a boulder rolling down hill to follow than to build a brick wall capable of stopping it cold.
And of course, like any good American it is easy for me to then make the jump to weaponizing the damn thing - if you can steer it, maybe you can point it at your enemies (not that I have anyone in mind, President Chavez)...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28683025</id>
	<title>Damn</title>
	<author>xmvince</author>
	<datestamp>1247481240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Amazing! Why didn't I think of this!?!?!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Amazing !
Why did n't I think of this ! ? ! ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amazing!
Why didn't I think of this!?!?
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649053</id>
	<title>Re:Next up!</title>
	<author>conspirator57</author>
	<datestamp>1247237820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He just thinks he's Stewie.  He's probably plotting to wipe out global warming as a means to destroying all broccoli.  He will control his weather device with a Speak and Say.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He just thinks he 's Stewie .
He 's probably plotting to wipe out global warming as a means to destroying all broccoli .
He will control his weather device with a Speak and Say .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He just thinks he's Stewie.
He's probably plotting to wipe out global warming as a means to destroying all broccoli.
He will control his weather device with a Speak and Say.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28657527</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>Cruciform</author>
	<datestamp>1247244060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is scary stuff.<br>I saw a documentary on hurricanes a few years ago and the meteorologists were quite sure that hurricanes are essential to the ecosystem. What we have is a planet filled with life that has evolved with these weather patterns in place. If we disrupt one significantly, what other effects could cascade from it.</p><p>Think global warming is bad? What happens when we disrupt the natural convection pump in the ocean and stall a current. (This last part was not in the documentary, just an outcome I would dread to see as a result of this tampering)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is scary stuff.I saw a documentary on hurricanes a few years ago and the meteorologists were quite sure that hurricanes are essential to the ecosystem .
What we have is a planet filled with life that has evolved with these weather patterns in place .
If we disrupt one significantly , what other effects could cascade from it.Think global warming is bad ?
What happens when we disrupt the natural convection pump in the ocean and stall a current .
( This last part was not in the documentary , just an outcome I would dread to see as a result of this tampering )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is scary stuff.I saw a documentary on hurricanes a few years ago and the meteorologists were quite sure that hurricanes are essential to the ecosystem.
What we have is a planet filled with life that has evolved with these weather patterns in place.
If we disrupt one significantly, what other effects could cascade from it.Think global warming is bad?
What happens when we disrupt the natural convection pump in the ocean and stall a current.
(This last part was not in the documentary, just an outcome I would dread to see as a result of this tampering)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648369</id>
	<title>Finally! Some use for the tactical nuclear bombs!</title>
	<author>140Mandak262Jamuna</author>
	<datestamp>1247234280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mixing cold water at depths with warm surface water quickly is impossible with pumps and stuff. Just drop a nuclear depth charge and explode it about a mile below the surface! Instantly all that water will mix together and the storm will dissipate. 16000 warheads from Russia and 8000 warheads from U.S.A, we can prevent hurricanes for the next, what 3, years?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mixing cold water at depths with warm surface water quickly is impossible with pumps and stuff .
Just drop a nuclear depth charge and explode it about a mile below the surface !
Instantly all that water will mix together and the storm will dissipate .
16000 warheads from Russia and 8000 warheads from U.S.A , we can prevent hurricanes for the next , what 3 , years ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mixing cold water at depths with warm surface water quickly is impossible with pumps and stuff.
Just drop a nuclear depth charge and explode it about a mile below the surface!
Instantly all that water will mix together and the storm will dissipate.
16000 warheads from Russia and 8000 warheads from U.S.A, we can prevent hurricanes for the next, what 3, years?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650167</id>
	<title>Re:Having worked in the weather community...</title>
	<author>jipn4</author>
	<datestamp>1247242140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Not only does this appear to be scientifically and logistically improbable, but have they ever considered the issues with screwing with global weather patterns?</i></p><p>No more than "they" considered screwing with our software, security, privacy, and communications infrastructure when they replaced systems that actually some semblance of security and sanity with software created by a college dropout (DOS and Windows).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only does this appear to be scientifically and logistically improbable , but have they ever considered the issues with screwing with global weather patterns ? No more than " they " considered screwing with our software , security , privacy , and communications infrastructure when they replaced systems that actually some semblance of security and sanity with software created by a college dropout ( DOS and Windows ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only does this appear to be scientifically and logistically improbable, but have they ever considered the issues with screwing with global weather patterns?No more than "they" considered screwing with our software, security, privacy, and communications infrastructure when they replaced systems that actually some semblance of security and sanity with software created by a college dropout (DOS and Windows).</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28654491</id>
	<title>Re:Oblig. Dennis Miller quote</title>
	<author>synthesizerpatel</author>
	<datestamp>1247217660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds like a pre 9-11 Dennis Miller quote before he turned into Darth Mirthless.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like a pre 9-11 Dennis Miller quote before he turned into Darth Mirthless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like a pre 9-11 Dennis Miller quote before he turned into Darth Mirthless.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648593</id>
	<title>Could be the last words ever spoken...</title>
	<author>shacky003</author>
	<datestamp>1247235480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Is he running Vista?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Is he running Vista ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Is he running Vista?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648447</id>
	<title>No, gates can't, because Bush flooded New Orleans</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247234700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>First off, Katrina was just a CAT 3 when it went through New Orleans, and it was not not a direct hit. The levees should have held, but--- <br>


       Katrina, aka the flooding of New Orleans, was caused by George Bush. Follow this: In 19945 a federal program, called SELA, was created in response to a flooding in Louisiana, that was due to deteriorated levees. This program included a full inspection of all the MS river and Lake Ponchartrain levees, then repairs and upgrades to meet current demands, as needed. Well, the first thing old George does when he gets into office is to cut taxes for the rich- he immediately wasted the surplus Clinton left him. That wasn't enough to balance the cuts, so, and here we get to the heart of the matter, Bush cuts the Army Corps of Engineers' Levee repair funds (SELA) to less than one fourth of what is needed. And not for just one year, but for three, in three seperate USA fiscal year's budgets: <br>



June 7, 2001
     Bush signed his massive $1.3 trillion income tax cut into law-- a tax cut that severely depleted the government of revenues it needed to address critical priorities. Bush's first budget introduced in February 2001 proposed more than half a billion dollars worth of cuts to the Army Corps of Engineers for the 2002 fiscal year. Bush proposed providing only half of what his own administration officials said was necessary to sustain the critical Southeast Louisiana Flood Control Project (SELA). <br>

February 2002
      The president unveiled his new budget, this one with a $390 million cut to the Army Corps. The administration provided just $5 million for maintaining and upgrading critical hurricane protection levees in New Orleans (SELA) --one fifth of what government experts and Republican elected officials in Louisiana told the administration was needed. <br>

February 2, 2004
     White House on February 2 released a budget with another massive cut to infrastructure and public works projects--
this time to the tune of $460 million. The Southeast Louisiana Flood Control project sought $100 million in U.S. aid to strengthen the levees holding back the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain, but the Bush administration offered a paltry $16.5 million. <br>


On top of that, Bush refused to put emergency relief in place before, during and after the storm, unlike Nixon, Clinton and Bush 1. He also turned away relief efforts, like a private bus co. offering to come get the people still in the city, the red cross, and stopping the USS Bataan, a hospital ship, from going from MS to NOLA, to help. <br>



Gates can't make a dumass in charge do the right thing, but Katrina didn't flood New Orleans. Stupid George did.</htmltext>
<tokenext>First off , Katrina was just a CAT 3 when it went through New Orleans , and it was not not a direct hit .
The levees should have held , but--- Katrina , aka the flooding of New Orleans , was caused by George Bush .
Follow this : In 19945 a federal program , called SELA , was created in response to a flooding in Louisiana , that was due to deteriorated levees .
This program included a full inspection of all the MS river and Lake Ponchartrain levees , then repairs and upgrades to meet current demands , as needed .
Well , the first thing old George does when he gets into office is to cut taxes for the rich- he immediately wasted the surplus Clinton left him .
That was n't enough to balance the cuts , so , and here we get to the heart of the matter , Bush cuts the Army Corps of Engineers ' Levee repair funds ( SELA ) to less than one fourth of what is needed .
And not for just one year , but for three , in three seperate USA fiscal year 's budgets : June 7 , 2001 Bush signed his massive $ 1.3 trillion income tax cut into law-- a tax cut that severely depleted the government of revenues it needed to address critical priorities .
Bush 's first budget introduced in February 2001 proposed more than half a billion dollars worth of cuts to the Army Corps of Engineers for the 2002 fiscal year .
Bush proposed providing only half of what his own administration officials said was necessary to sustain the critical Southeast Louisiana Flood Control Project ( SELA ) .
February 2002 The president unveiled his new budget , this one with a $ 390 million cut to the Army Corps .
The administration provided just $ 5 million for maintaining and upgrading critical hurricane protection levees in New Orleans ( SELA ) --one fifth of what government experts and Republican elected officials in Louisiana told the administration was needed .
February 2 , 2004 White House on February 2 released a budget with another massive cut to infrastructure and public works projects-- this time to the tune of $ 460 million .
The Southeast Louisiana Flood Control project sought $ 100 million in U.S. aid to strengthen the levees holding back the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain , but the Bush administration offered a paltry $ 16.5 million .
On top of that , Bush refused to put emergency relief in place before , during and after the storm , unlike Nixon , Clinton and Bush 1 .
He also turned away relief efforts , like a private bus co. offering to come get the people still in the city , the red cross , and stopping the USS Bataan , a hospital ship , from going from MS to NOLA , to help .
Gates ca n't make a dumass in charge do the right thing , but Katrina did n't flood New Orleans .
Stupid George did .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First off, Katrina was just a CAT 3 when it went through New Orleans, and it was not not a direct hit.
The levees should have held, but--- 


       Katrina, aka the flooding of New Orleans, was caused by George Bush.
Follow this: In 19945 a federal program, called SELA, was created in response to a flooding in Louisiana, that was due to deteriorated levees.
This program included a full inspection of all the MS river and Lake Ponchartrain levees, then repairs and upgrades to meet current demands, as needed.
Well, the first thing old George does when he gets into office is to cut taxes for the rich- he immediately wasted the surplus Clinton left him.
That wasn't enough to balance the cuts, so, and here we get to the heart of the matter, Bush cuts the Army Corps of Engineers' Levee repair funds (SELA) to less than one fourth of what is needed.
And not for just one year, but for three, in three seperate USA fiscal year's budgets: 



June 7, 2001
     Bush signed his massive $1.3 trillion income tax cut into law-- a tax cut that severely depleted the government of revenues it needed to address critical priorities.
Bush's first budget introduced in February 2001 proposed more than half a billion dollars worth of cuts to the Army Corps of Engineers for the 2002 fiscal year.
Bush proposed providing only half of what his own administration officials said was necessary to sustain the critical Southeast Louisiana Flood Control Project (SELA).
February 2002
      The president unveiled his new budget, this one with a $390 million cut to the Army Corps.
The administration provided just $5 million for maintaining and upgrading critical hurricane protection levees in New Orleans (SELA) --one fifth of what government experts and Republican elected officials in Louisiana told the administration was needed.
February 2, 2004
     White House on February 2 released a budget with another massive cut to infrastructure and public works projects--
this time to the tune of $460 million.
The Southeast Louisiana Flood Control project sought $100 million in U.S. aid to strengthen the levees holding back the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain, but the Bush administration offered a paltry $16.5 million.
On top of that, Bush refused to put emergency relief in place before, during and after the storm, unlike Nixon, Clinton and Bush 1.
He also turned away relief efforts, like a private bus co. offering to come get the people still in the city, the red cross, and stopping the USS Bataan, a hospital ship, from going from MS to NOLA, to help.
Gates can't make a dumass in charge do the right thing, but Katrina didn't flood New Orleans.
Stupid George did.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650657</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1247244120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>any success they claim is going to be very open to interpretation.</i></p><p>That's pure Microsoft, isn't it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>any success they claim is going to be very open to interpretation.That 's pure Microsoft , is n't it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>any success they claim is going to be very open to interpretation.That's pure Microsoft, isn't it?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649345</id>
	<title>Re:1000 level</title>
	<author>catmistake</author>
	<datestamp>1247238960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...why he's <b>patenting</b> it.</p></div><p>Obviously its to cash in on the rush to prevent hurricanes. Then again, it could be to make the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS\_Glomar\_Explorer\_(T-AG-193)" title="wikipedia.org">misdirection</a> [wikipedia.org] believable.
</p><p>Question is: is there anything about that part of the ocean that our government doesn't want anyone to know they're interested in?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...why he 's patenting it.Obviously its to cash in on the rush to prevent hurricanes .
Then again , it could be to make the misdirection [ wikipedia.org ] believable .
Question is : is there anything about that part of the ocean that our government does n't want anyone to know they 're interested in ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...why he's patenting it.Obviously its to cash in on the rush to prevent hurricanes.
Then again, it could be to make the misdirection [wikipedia.org] believable.
Question is: is there anything about that part of the ocean that our government doesn't want anyone to know they're interested in?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648389</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>weszz</author>
	<datestamp>1247234400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you see the problem... if he PREVENTS the next Katrina, was it REALLY the next Katrina? or will the one he DOESN'T prevent be the next one?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you see the problem... if he PREVENTS the next Katrina , was it REALLY the next Katrina ?
or will the one he DOES N'T prevent be the next one ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you see the problem... if he PREVENTS the next Katrina, was it REALLY the next Katrina?
or will the one he DOESN'T prevent be the next one?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650075</id>
	<title>Re:Oblig. Dennis Miller quote</title>
	<author>jipn4</author>
	<datestamp>1247241840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ballmer is pretty close to an evil pet.  And his nerd glasses... well, look, he's a villain from the 1970's, not the 1960's.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ballmer is pretty close to an evil pet .
And his nerd glasses... well , look , he 's a villain from the 1970 's , not the 1960 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ballmer is pretty close to an evil pet.
And his nerd glasses... well, look, he's a villain from the 1970's, not the 1960's.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649163</id>
	<title>The new Microsoft OS for this...</title>
	<author>wtfamidoinghere</author>
	<datestamp>1247238360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... will be named<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Wind-OS !!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... will be named ... Wind-OS ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... will be named ... Wind-OS !!!!
!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28652001</id>
	<title>Re:Next up!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247250540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Volcano or zit?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Volcano or zit ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Volcano or zit?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28670549</id>
	<title>Re:Next up!</title>
	<author>Duggeek</author>
	<datestamp>1247399400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>He'll have an island in the middle of the ocean with a volcano that has a giant face on it that looks like him.</p></div><p>You forgot the part where he dons a blue helmet with chrome faceplate and starts talking in a hoarse, screechy voice.</p><p>Pumping water? That's go EPA... so Greenpeace. Even if it does work, the fallout from changing ocean temperatures at depth is even more mind-staggering than the potential damage of a hurricane. (nods to other posts)</p><p>And no, there is no way to tell if it works... no <i>frickin'</i> way! Where are the control variables? Has this been tested? What if the cold water sinks so quickly that it doesn't mix with the warm water to have an effect? What if it creates a maelstrom to accompany the hurricane, double jeopardy! Why waste billions on something that <i>might</i> work?</p><p>Then again... we are talking about the mastermind of Windows&reg;. C'est la vie.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>He 'll have an island in the middle of the ocean with a volcano that has a giant face on it that looks like him.You forgot the part where he dons a blue helmet with chrome faceplate and starts talking in a hoarse , screechy voice.Pumping water ?
That 's go EPA... so Greenpeace .
Even if it does work , the fallout from changing ocean temperatures at depth is even more mind-staggering than the potential damage of a hurricane .
( nods to other posts ) And no , there is no way to tell if it works... no frickin ' way !
Where are the control variables ?
Has this been tested ?
What if the cold water sinks so quickly that it does n't mix with the warm water to have an effect ?
What if it creates a maelstrom to accompany the hurricane , double jeopardy !
Why waste billions on something that might work ? Then again... we are talking about the mastermind of Windows   .
C'est la vie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He'll have an island in the middle of the ocean with a volcano that has a giant face on it that looks like him.You forgot the part where he dons a blue helmet with chrome faceplate and starts talking in a hoarse, screechy voice.Pumping water?
That's go EPA... so Greenpeace.
Even if it does work, the fallout from changing ocean temperatures at depth is even more mind-staggering than the potential damage of a hurricane.
(nods to other posts)And no, there is no way to tell if it works... no frickin' way!
Where are the control variables?
Has this been tested?
What if the cold water sinks so quickly that it doesn't mix with the warm water to have an effect?
What if it creates a maelstrom to accompany the hurricane, double jeopardy!
Why waste billions on something that might work?Then again... we are talking about the mastermind of Windows®.
C'est la vie.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648139</id>
	<title>Gates-way to eco-disaster</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247232660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ok, as much as hurricanes hurt and destroy peoples homes, lives, and regions economies, I can tell you right now that to suppress them is A BAD IDEA.</p><p>Hurricane season and storm activity represent a huge portion of the rainfall/water collection/water renewal in the Caribbean, and is still a significant water contributor in the southern U.S.A., a region that is still experiencing drought conditions, even if its not as severe as last year.  What, is this a plot to dry up an important freshwater source for a large region, then sell expensive desalination plants?!  Desertification of a whole region to put up solar plants or harvest silicon?</p><p>Plus the hurricanes help to suck up all the warm water that's killing the the coral reefs - you know, one of the bastions against the waves pounding coastlines?</p><p>Oh wait, the Caribbean is full of small islands and a few unnecessary Central American countries that act as the hurricane buffer for the U.S.A., and absorb the majority of the insurance hikes when Florida/Louisiana/Texas gets hit. Shafting us and destroying our ecology is business as usual.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , as much as hurricanes hurt and destroy peoples homes , lives , and regions economies , I can tell you right now that to suppress them is A BAD IDEA.Hurricane season and storm activity represent a huge portion of the rainfall/water collection/water renewal in the Caribbean , and is still a significant water contributor in the southern U.S.A. , a region that is still experiencing drought conditions , even if its not as severe as last year .
What , is this a plot to dry up an important freshwater source for a large region , then sell expensive desalination plants ? !
Desertification of a whole region to put up solar plants or harvest silicon ? Plus the hurricanes help to suck up all the warm water that 's killing the the coral reefs - you know , one of the bastions against the waves pounding coastlines ? Oh wait , the Caribbean is full of small islands and a few unnecessary Central American countries that act as the hurricane buffer for the U.S.A. , and absorb the majority of the insurance hikes when Florida/Louisiana/Texas gets hit .
Shafting us and destroying our ecology is business as usual .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, as much as hurricanes hurt and destroy peoples homes, lives, and regions economies, I can tell you right now that to suppress them is A BAD IDEA.Hurricane season and storm activity represent a huge portion of the rainfall/water collection/water renewal in the Caribbean, and is still a significant water contributor in the southern U.S.A., a region that is still experiencing drought conditions, even if its not as severe as last year.
What, is this a plot to dry up an important freshwater source for a large region, then sell expensive desalination plants?!
Desertification of a whole region to put up solar plants or harvest silicon?Plus the hurricanes help to suck up all the warm water that's killing the the coral reefs - you know, one of the bastions against the waves pounding coastlines?Oh wait, the Caribbean is full of small islands and a few unnecessary Central American countries that act as the hurricane buffer for the U.S.A., and absorb the majority of the insurance hikes when Florida/Louisiana/Texas gets hit.
Shafting us and destroying our ecology is business as usual.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28652379</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247251860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obviously this is a stealth attempt to build OTECs, but what they want to do is a much simpler version and seems to have the direction wrong. Do we really want Bill gates controlling OTECS?<br>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean\_thermal\_energy\_conversion</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obviously this is a stealth attempt to build OTECs , but what they want to do is a much simpler version and seems to have the direction wrong .
Do we really want Bill gates controlling OTECS ? http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean \ _thermal \ _energy \ _conversion</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obviously this is a stealth attempt to build OTECs, but what they want to do is a much simpler version and seems to have the direction wrong.
Do we really want Bill gates controlling OTECS?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean\_thermal\_energy\_conversion</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649681</id>
	<title>Re:No, gates can't, because Bush flooded New Orlea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247240280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>What really took the money away was the Iraq war (which also gave Osama Bin Laden a free pass).  Who is complicit in the Iraq war? Certainly Cheney and Rumsfeld for manufacturing evidence of WMD, but more importantly almost every single person in Congress who refused to read the reports directly (or even the summary put together by "I believe in UFO's" Cucinich).  It's not just Republicans, it's also democrats.  just like TARP, PATRIOT, suppression of habeus corpus, and many more, both parties are essentially in support of all of it.  So in the end it is the fault of the citizens of the US, who have allowed themselves to become the consumers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What really took the money away was the Iraq war ( which also gave Osama Bin Laden a free pass ) .
Who is complicit in the Iraq war ?
Certainly Cheney and Rumsfeld for manufacturing evidence of WMD , but more importantly almost every single person in Congress who refused to read the reports directly ( or even the summary put together by " I believe in UFO 's " Cucinich ) .
It 's not just Republicans , it 's also democrats .
just like TARP , PATRIOT , suppression of habeus corpus , and many more , both parties are essentially in support of all of it .
So in the end it is the fault of the citizens of the US , who have allowed themselves to become the consumers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What really took the money away was the Iraq war (which also gave Osama Bin Laden a free pass).
Who is complicit in the Iraq war?
Certainly Cheney and Rumsfeld for manufacturing evidence of WMD, but more importantly almost every single person in Congress who refused to read the reports directly (or even the summary put together by "I believe in UFO's" Cucinich).
It's not just Republicans, it's also democrats.
just like TARP, PATRIOT, suppression of habeus corpus, and many more, both parties are essentially in support of all of it.
So in the end it is the fault of the citizens of the US, who have allowed themselves to become the consumers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28658949</id>
	<title>Bullocks!</title>
	<author>Phoghat</author>
	<datestamp>1247314920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OK, We all get it, nobody likes Microsoft or Bill Gates. But, I'll say this: here's a guy (who you have to admit is a genius and has lots more money than you or I), who built one of the biggest corporations in the world out of intellectual property that <i> <b> HE</b> </i>  invented. OK, later on he glommed some other peoples stuff and added it to the empire, but if they couldn't make it on their own, who's fault is that?<p>
Now, he's 53, gave away $40 billion to charity and retired. Remember he's still a genius, the Thomas Alva Edison of his time, and what's he working on? Ways to actually improve the world. Got hurricanes? Let's work on it. Need a way to decrease dependence on fossil fuels? We got that covered. Need a cold beer and no fridge? We can even do that.</p><p>
I use Ubuntu, but I'd kiss his ass in Macy's front window to be like him.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , We all get it , nobody likes Microsoft or Bill Gates .
But , I 'll say this : here 's a guy ( who you have to admit is a genius and has lots more money than you or I ) , who built one of the biggest corporations in the world out of intellectual property that HE invented .
OK , later on he glommed some other peoples stuff and added it to the empire , but if they could n't make it on their own , who 's fault is that ?
Now , he 's 53 , gave away $ 40 billion to charity and retired .
Remember he 's still a genius , the Thomas Alva Edison of his time , and what 's he working on ?
Ways to actually improve the world .
Got hurricanes ?
Let 's work on it .
Need a way to decrease dependence on fossil fuels ?
We got that covered .
Need a cold beer and no fridge ?
We can even do that .
I use Ubuntu , but I 'd kiss his ass in Macy 's front window to be like him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, We all get it, nobody likes Microsoft or Bill Gates.
But, I'll say this: here's a guy (who you have to admit is a genius and has lots more money than you or I), who built one of the biggest corporations in the world out of intellectual property that   HE   invented.
OK, later on he glommed some other peoples stuff and added it to the empire, but if they couldn't make it on their own, who's fault is that?
Now, he's 53, gave away $40 billion to charity and retired.
Remember he's still a genius, the Thomas Alva Edison of his time, and what's he working on?
Ways to actually improve the world.
Got hurricanes?
Let's work on it.
Need a way to decrease dependence on fossil fuels?
We got that covered.
Need a cold beer and no fridge?
We can even do that.
I use Ubuntu, but I'd kiss his ass in Macy's front window to be like him.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648295</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>kvezach</author>
	<datestamp>1247233800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They'll just count the number of times a disembodied voice says "Weather control device activated!".</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 'll just count the number of times a disembodied voice says " Weather control device activated !
" .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They'll just count the number of times a disembodied voice says "Weather control device activated!
".</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649807</id>
	<title>Re:Next up!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247240820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And when will people realize that just because something is "natural" doesn't make it the ideal solution. Using technology to extend human lifespan past 30 has resulted in a cataclysm of course?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And when will people realize that just because something is " natural " does n't make it the ideal solution .
Using technology to extend human lifespan past 30 has resulted in a cataclysm of course ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And when will people realize that just because something is "natural" doesn't make it the ideal solution.
Using technology to extend human lifespan past 30 has resulted in a cataclysm of course?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648431</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>Demena</author>
	<datestamp>1247234640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yep.  Better do just that.

We already have enough problems, heating up the bottom of the oceans as well as the top will really screw things up.  Stuff up conveyor currents and half the world dies.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep .
Better do just that .
We already have enough problems , heating up the bottom of the oceans as well as the top will really screw things up .
Stuff up conveyor currents and half the world dies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep.
Better do just that.
We already have enough problems, heating up the bottom of the oceans as well as the top will really screw things up.
Stuff up conveyor currents and half the world dies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649209</id>
	<title>Spending tips for Billionaires</title>
	<author>ayahner</author>
	<datestamp>1247238540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lets say you're the richest man in the world.<p>
Upon retirement you:</p><ol>
<li>buy a continent</li><li>build a space platform</li><li>buy a FLEET of ships to hold off angry hurricanes</li></ol><p>
The last option has the added benefit that if it doesn't work, you can always take the first option by force</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lets say you 're the richest man in the world .
Upon retirement you : buy a continentbuild a space platformbuy a FLEET of ships to hold off angry hurricanes The last option has the added benefit that if it does n't work , you can always take the first option by force</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lets say you're the richest man in the world.
Upon retirement you:
buy a continentbuild a space platformbuy a FLEET of ships to hold off angry hurricanes
The last option has the added benefit that if it doesn't work, you can always take the first option by force</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648371</id>
	<title>Obvious?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247234280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been thinking about this for some time. A network of floating pumps across the belt where hurricanes form, solar powered, to pump cool water from a few tens of meters down up to the surface. When a depression is spotted, just turn on the pumps in its path to reduce the amount of surface heat to feed it. My oceanographer friend tells me I'm talking nonsense.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been thinking about this for some time .
A network of floating pumps across the belt where hurricanes form , solar powered , to pump cool water from a few tens of meters down up to the surface .
When a depression is spotted , just turn on the pumps in its path to reduce the amount of surface heat to feed it .
My oceanographer friend tells me I 'm talking nonsense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been thinking about this for some time.
A network of floating pumps across the belt where hurricanes form, solar powered, to pump cool water from a few tens of meters down up to the surface.
When a depression is spotted, just turn on the pumps in its path to reduce the amount of surface heat to feed it.
My oceanographer friend tells me I'm talking nonsense.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650029</id>
	<title>working prototype</title>
	<author>jipn4</author>
	<datestamp>1247241660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People should be required to document and demonstrate a working prototype.  If they can't do that, they shouldn't be allowed to file a patent on something, because it simply prevents others from exploiting the idea for the next 20 years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People should be required to document and demonstrate a working prototype .
If they ca n't do that , they should n't be allowed to file a patent on something , because it simply prevents others from exploiting the idea for the next 20 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People should be required to document and demonstrate a working prototype.
If they can't do that, they shouldn't be allowed to file a patent on something, because it simply prevents others from exploiting the idea for the next 20 years.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649119</id>
	<title>Tsar Bomba: 2e17 Joules</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247238120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar\_bomba" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Tsar Bomba</a> [wikipedia.org], the largest nuclear weapon detonated, released 2*10^17 Joules of energy. This is <a href="http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/D7.html" title="noaa.gov" rel="nofollow">slightly more</a> [noaa.gov] than the wind energy expended by a huricane in one day, and wayy more than your trivial 10^12 Joules.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tsar Bomba [ wikipedia.org ] , the largest nuclear weapon detonated , released 2 * 10 ^ 17 Joules of energy .
This is slightly more [ noaa.gov ] than the wind energy expended by a huricane in one day , and wayy more than your trivial 10 ^ 12 Joules .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tsar Bomba [wikipedia.org], the largest nuclear weapon detonated, released 2*10^17 Joules of energy.
This is slightly more [noaa.gov] than the wind energy expended by a huricane in one day, and wayy more than your trivial 10^12 Joules.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649611</id>
	<title>Re:Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247240040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>NOTHING man can do on this planet can even begin to compare to the scale of energies involved in natural phenomena.</p></div><p>So you don't believe in global warming?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>NOTHING man can do on this planet can even begin to compare to the scale of energies involved in natural phenomena.So you do n't believe in global warming ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NOTHING man can do on this planet can even begin to compare to the scale of energies involved in natural phenomena.So you don't believe in global warming?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648715</id>
	<title>ok im sorry</title>
	<author>nimbius</author>
	<datestamp>1247236380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>call me a troll, call me what you will, but this is NOT some arc angel send from high upon tech mountain to solve all our meatworld woes.  the guy spent arguably his entire career at microsoft trying to find ways to fuck other businesses out of a competing edge with his products through "embrace extend extinguish" and chillaxed on the coat-tails of a shitty but defacto standard operating system that was a pile of security flaws, mystery code, and undocumented standards.<br> <br>This man couldnt prevent windows, a manmade operating system resting on the shoulders of thousands of coders, from bluescreening at a tech conference during a SIMPLE runthrough of plug-and-pray scanner access.  he couldnt find a way to innovate past the browser wars, and he couldnt figure out how to make a media player capable of competing with things like realplayer.  What in GODS NAME makes us think he can tackle a force of nature?!<br> <br>
if he manages to do it, what will he have sought to accomplish?  <br> <br>
bad joke here, but "patenting hurricane
system for cloud based services" doesnt seem like its going to work in the meatworld.  on the plus side, the next microsoft hurricane to hit will probably segfault somewhere off the coast of florida and turn into a turtle-mocha cheesecake, or ask if im trying to wreck florida again and need help.</htmltext>
<tokenext>call me a troll , call me what you will , but this is NOT some arc angel send from high upon tech mountain to solve all our meatworld woes .
the guy spent arguably his entire career at microsoft trying to find ways to fuck other businesses out of a competing edge with his products through " embrace extend extinguish " and chillaxed on the coat-tails of a shitty but defacto standard operating system that was a pile of security flaws , mystery code , and undocumented standards .
This man couldnt prevent windows , a manmade operating system resting on the shoulders of thousands of coders , from bluescreening at a tech conference during a SIMPLE runthrough of plug-and-pray scanner access .
he couldnt find a way to innovate past the browser wars , and he couldnt figure out how to make a media player capable of competing with things like realplayer .
What in GODS NAME makes us think he can tackle a force of nature ? !
if he manages to do it , what will he have sought to accomplish ?
bad joke here , but " patenting hurricane system for cloud based services " doesnt seem like its going to work in the meatworld .
on the plus side , the next microsoft hurricane to hit will probably segfault somewhere off the coast of florida and turn into a turtle-mocha cheesecake , or ask if im trying to wreck florida again and need help .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>call me a troll, call me what you will, but this is NOT some arc angel send from high upon tech mountain to solve all our meatworld woes.
the guy spent arguably his entire career at microsoft trying to find ways to fuck other businesses out of a competing edge with his products through "embrace extend extinguish" and chillaxed on the coat-tails of a shitty but defacto standard operating system that was a pile of security flaws, mystery code, and undocumented standards.
This man couldnt prevent windows, a manmade operating system resting on the shoulders of thousands of coders, from bluescreening at a tech conference during a SIMPLE runthrough of plug-and-pray scanner access.
he couldnt find a way to innovate past the browser wars, and he couldnt figure out how to make a media player capable of competing with things like realplayer.
What in GODS NAME makes us think he can tackle a force of nature?!
if he manages to do it, what will he have sought to accomplish?
bad joke here, but "patenting hurricane
system for cloud based services" doesnt seem like its going to work in the meatworld.
on the plus side, the next microsoft hurricane to hit will probably segfault somewhere off the coast of florida and turn into a turtle-mocha cheesecake, or ask if im trying to wreck florida again and need help.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28651837</id>
	<title>Re:Error in logic</title>
	<author>jipn4</author>
	<datestamp>1247249820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Basically, the idea is to use pressure and temperature differences to "pump" the warm surface water to the bottom.</i></p><p>RTFA.  That is not his idea (his idea isn't very plausible).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Basically , the idea is to use pressure and temperature differences to " pump " the warm surface water to the bottom.RTFA .
That is not his idea ( his idea is n't very plausible ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Basically, the idea is to use pressure and temperature differences to "pump" the warm surface water to the bottom.RTFA.
That is not his idea (his idea isn't very plausible).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648427</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650853</id>
	<title>patent trolls</title>
	<author>rs232</author>
	<datestamp>1247244780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is Bill and Nathan going to actually build such a system, or wait until someone else does so and then go after them for royalties. Does these patents cover all methods of decreasing the surface temperature?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is Bill and Nathan going to actually build such a system , or wait until someone else does so and then go after them for royalties .
Does these patents cover all methods of decreasing the surface temperature ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is Bill and Nathan going to actually build such a system, or wait until someone else does so and then go after them for royalties.
Does these patents cover all methods of decreasing the surface temperature?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648647</id>
	<title>Beyond Unbelievable</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247235840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does his arrogance know no bounds?!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does his arrogance know no bounds ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does his arrogance know no bounds?
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648169</id>
	<title>Easy</title>
	<author>mlush</author>
	<datestamp>1247232900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>He just declares flooding as the new international standard</htmltext>
<tokenext>He just declares flooding as the new international standard</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He just declares flooding as the new international standard</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648223</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>Robin47</author>
	<datestamp>1247233260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suppose they will have to file an environmental impact report....</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suppose they will have to file an environmental impact report... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suppose they will have to file an environmental impact report....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647933</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649875</id>
	<title>Re:Anyone who thinks they can change the weather..</title>
	<author>Scrameustache</author>
	<datestamp>1247241120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Anyone who thinks they can change the weather is either absorbed in hubris or insane.</p></div><p>According to Wang Guanghe, director of <a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/IG13Ad01.html" title="atimes.com">the Weather Modification Department under the Chinese Academy of Meteorological Sciences</a> [atimes.com], each of China's more than 30 provinces and province-level municipalities today boast a weather-modification base, employing more than 32,000 people, 7,100 anti-aircraft guns, 4,991 special rocket launchers and 30-odd aircraft across the country.</p><p>"Ours is the largest artificial weather program in the world in terms of equipment, size and budget," Wang said, adding that the annual nationwide budget for weather modification is between US$60 million and $90 million.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone who thinks they can change the weather is either absorbed in hubris or insane.According to Wang Guanghe , director of the Weather Modification Department under the Chinese Academy of Meteorological Sciences [ atimes.com ] , each of China 's more than 30 provinces and province-level municipalities today boast a weather-modification base , employing more than 32,000 people , 7,100 anti-aircraft guns , 4,991 special rocket launchers and 30-odd aircraft across the country .
" Ours is the largest artificial weather program in the world in terms of equipment , size and budget , " Wang said , adding that the annual nationwide budget for weather modification is between US $ 60 million and $ 90 million .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone who thinks they can change the weather is either absorbed in hubris or insane.According to Wang Guanghe, director of the Weather Modification Department under the Chinese Academy of Meteorological Sciences [atimes.com], each of China's more than 30 provinces and province-level municipalities today boast a weather-modification base, employing more than 32,000 people, 7,100 anti-aircraft guns, 4,991 special rocket launchers and 30-odd aircraft across the country.
"Ours is the largest artificial weather program in the world in terms of equipment, size and budget," Wang said, adding that the annual nationwide budget for weather modification is between US$60 million and $90 million.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648435</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28651523</id>
	<title>Yes we can</title>
	<author>levicivita</author>
	<datestamp>1247248200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bill gates <a href="http://www.snopes.com/humor/jokes/autos.asp" title="snopes.com" rel="nofollow">is (incorrectly) alleged to have said:</a> [snopes.com] <i>"If GM had kept up with the technology like the computer industry has, we would all be driving $25.00 cars that got 1,000 miles to the gallon."</i>  To which GM is supposed to have come back with a caustic comeback.  Imaginary as this story may be, let's stick with it for a second.  What would a Microsoft hurricane look like?  Random intermittend freezes?  Nagging <a href="http://blog.httpwatch.com/2009/04/23/fixing-the-ie-8-warning-do-you-want-to-view-only-the-webpage-content-that-was-delivered-securely/" title="httpwatch.com" rel="nofollow">bogus error messages</a> [httpwatch.com] when in the proximity of Mountain View, California?  Would it suck up, slowly, over time, all the humidity from the atmospehere in a huge overengineered barely moving vortex that would come to a grinding halt over time ('time to buy Hurricane 8.0')?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bill gates is ( incorrectly ) alleged to have said : [ snopes.com ] " If GM had kept up with the technology like the computer industry has , we would all be driving $ 25.00 cars that got 1,000 miles to the gallon .
" To which GM is supposed to have come back with a caustic comeback .
Imaginary as this story may be , let 's stick with it for a second .
What would a Microsoft hurricane look like ?
Random intermittend freezes ?
Nagging bogus error messages [ httpwatch.com ] when in the proximity of Mountain View , California ?
Would it suck up , slowly , over time , all the humidity from the atmospehere in a huge overengineered barely moving vortex that would come to a grinding halt over time ( 'time to buy Hurricane 8.0 ' ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bill gates is (incorrectly) alleged to have said: [snopes.com] "If GM had kept up with the technology like the computer industry has, we would all be driving $25.00 cars that got 1,000 miles to the gallon.
"  To which GM is supposed to have come back with a caustic comeback.
Imaginary as this story may be, let's stick with it for a second.
What would a Microsoft hurricane look like?
Random intermittend freezes?
Nagging bogus error messages [httpwatch.com] when in the proximity of Mountain View, California?
Would it suck up, slowly, over time, all the humidity from the atmospehere in a huge overengineered barely moving vortex that would come to a grinding halt over time ('time to buy Hurricane 8.0')?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648005</id>
	<title>Can gates pay the damages?</title>
	<author>Tuqui</author>
	<datestamp>1247231520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think is not feasible. but anyway, if they can do it, New Orleans will be safe but Florida will receive the hurricane deviated.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think is not feasible .
but anyway , if they can do it , New Orleans will be safe but Florida will receive the hurricane deviated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think is not feasible.
but anyway, if they can do it, New Orleans will be safe but Florida will receive the hurricane deviated.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648347</id>
	<title>Re:Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247234040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We've already increased the entire global temperature by 1 degree, killed off more species than anything else in the last 65 million years, destroyed up to 90\% of trees in some areas, and all that without direct intent to alter the planet, so why can't we do more?</htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've already increased the entire global temperature by 1 degree , killed off more species than anything else in the last 65 million years , destroyed up to 90 \ % of trees in some areas , and all that without direct intent to alter the planet , so why ca n't we do more ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've already increased the entire global temperature by 1 degree, killed off more species than anything else in the last 65 million years, destroyed up to 90\% of trees in some areas, and all that without direct intent to alter the planet, so why can't we do more?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648155</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28651349</id>
	<title>this might be a good thing... Patenting it.</title>
	<author>cdpage</author>
	<datestamp>1247247120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>hopefully this goes through, so if its patented... and Gates comes to his senses... he'll be able to stop people from doing such a STUPID thing</htmltext>
<tokenext>hopefully this goes through , so if its patented... and Gates comes to his senses... he 'll be able to stop people from doing such a STUPID thing</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hopefully this goes through, so if its patented... and Gates comes to his senses... he'll be able to stop people from doing such a STUPID thing</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648161</id>
	<title>Senility driven</title>
	<author>cepayne</author>
	<datestamp>1247232840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And he'll find a way to demand ridiculous payment from all of you while<br>
he's at it. <br>
<br>
Just another stab at charging for something that can't be done. But he<br>
will convince you that you need it.<br>
<br>
It's proof that nobody can avoid senility.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And he 'll find a way to demand ridiculous payment from all of you while he 's at it .
Just another stab at charging for something that ca n't be done .
But he will convince you that you need it .
It 's proof that nobody can avoid senility .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And he'll find a way to demand ridiculous payment from all of you while
he's at it.
Just another stab at charging for something that can't be done.
But he
will convince you that you need it.
It's proof that nobody can avoid senility.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649835</id>
	<title>Re:No, gates can't, because Bush flooded New Orlea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247240940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why should tax money from Nebraska have to bail out idiots that live in a flood plane to begin with?  If people from Louisiana want to live below sea level, pay for it yourselves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why should tax money from Nebraska have to bail out idiots that live in a flood plane to begin with ?
If people from Louisiana want to live below sea level , pay for it yourselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why should tax money from Nebraska have to bail out idiots that live in a flood plane to begin with?
If people from Louisiana want to live below sea level, pay for it yourselves.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648447</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647965</id>
	<title>Because knowing is half the battle</title>
	<author>Drakkenmensch</author>
	<datestamp>1247231220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The next step of Gates' plan: Regroup all his weather-altering devices into a single prototype named the Weather Dominator. Proudly go on the air while wearing his blue uniform and matching helmet with mirrored facemask and announce his global domination plans. <i>COBRAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>The next step of Gates ' plan : Regroup all his weather-altering devices into a single prototype named the Weather Dominator .
Proudly go on the air while wearing his blue uniform and matching helmet with mirrored facemask and announce his global domination plans .
COBRAAAAAAAAAAAA ! ! !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The next step of Gates' plan: Regroup all his weather-altering devices into a single prototype named the Weather Dominator.
Proudly go on the air while wearing his blue uniform and matching helmet with mirrored facemask and announce his global domination plans.
COBRAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648107</id>
	<title>Proof of concept</title>
	<author>Kupfernigk</author>
	<datestamp>1247232480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hope that no patent will be granted until they produce a working prototype. On another planet, identical to this one.<p>The catch is that as Bill would have to visit Magrathea to get the planet built, it would be cheaper just to engage them to fix the global warming on this one. (and add a few more fjords while at it.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope that no patent will be granted until they produce a working prototype .
On another planet , identical to this one.The catch is that as Bill would have to visit Magrathea to get the planet built , it would be cheaper just to engage them to fix the global warming on this one .
( and add a few more fjords while at it .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope that no patent will be granted until they produce a working prototype.
On another planet, identical to this one.The catch is that as Bill would have to visit Magrathea to get the planet built, it would be cheaper just to engage them to fix the global warming on this one.
(and add a few more fjords while at it.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648071</id>
	<title>All fun and games</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247232120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>until you get a blue tornato of death</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>until you get a blue tornato of death</tokentext>
<sentencetext>until you get a blue tornato of death</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647951</id>
	<title>Whatcouldpossiblygowrong!</title>
	<author>mspohr</author>
	<datestamp>1247231160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I only have one thought...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I only have one thought.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I only have one thought...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28652007</id>
	<title>Wow</title>
	<author>tuxgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1247250540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"He once controlled the world's PCs. Now Bill Gates has set his sights on controlling the world's weather. And patenting it.</p></div></blockquote><p>Wow, what a sensational headline!<br>Another way it could have been: "The evil Dr. Morlock bent on holding the world for ransom"</p><p>But then again, maybe Bill Gates may be onto something here. If he can control global warming and weather patterns, we all can worship him like a god, and he can charge us all a fee for bringing rainfall to arid regions and sunshine and rainbows to all the good children in lollipop land.</p><p>Lord Bill is my hero<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... big sigh</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" He once controlled the world 's PCs .
Now Bill Gates has set his sights on controlling the world 's weather .
And patenting it.Wow , what a sensational headline ! Another way it could have been : " The evil Dr. Morlock bent on holding the world for ransom " But then again , maybe Bill Gates may be onto something here .
If he can control global warming and weather patterns , we all can worship him like a god , and he can charge us all a fee for bringing rainfall to arid regions and sunshine and rainbows to all the good children in lollipop land.Lord Bill is my hero ... big sigh</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"He once controlled the world's PCs.
Now Bill Gates has set his sights on controlling the world's weather.
And patenting it.Wow, what a sensational headline!Another way it could have been: "The evil Dr. Morlock bent on holding the world for ransom"But then again, maybe Bill Gates may be onto something here.
If he can control global warming and weather patterns, we all can worship him like a god, and he can charge us all a fee for bringing rainfall to arid regions and sunshine and rainbows to all the good children in lollipop land.Lord Bill is my hero ... big sigh
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28658749</id>
	<title>Gates Plan Using Boats Won't Work</title>
	<author>ImitationEnergy</author>
	<datestamp>1247309820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Gates will end up in the same position as T. Boone Pickens, withrawing in failure after spending $2,000,000,000.00. Everybody knows men cannot cause Global Warming right? OK, so the converse is also True =&gt; men cannot do enough cooling to reverse hurricanes. Elementary dear Watson. And as always yes, I do have a system for doing it. However, hurricanes are natural and maybe, just maybe, they shouldn't be prevented. Bill Gates is the one needs to be stopped.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Gates will end up in the same position as T. Boone Pickens , withrawing in failure after spending $ 2,000,000,000.00 .
Everybody knows men can not cause Global Warming right ?
OK , so the converse is also True = &gt; men can not do enough cooling to reverse hurricanes .
Elementary dear Watson .
And as always yes , I do have a system for doing it .
However , hurricanes are natural and maybe , just maybe , they should n't be prevented .
Bill Gates is the one needs to be stopped .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gates will end up in the same position as T. Boone Pickens, withrawing in failure after spending $2,000,000,000.00.
Everybody knows men cannot cause Global Warming right?
OK, so the converse is also True =&gt; men cannot do enough cooling to reverse hurricanes.
Elementary dear Watson.
And as always yes, I do have a system for doing it.
However, hurricanes are natural and maybe, just maybe, they shouldn't be prevented.
Bill Gates is the one needs to be stopped.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647989</id>
	<title>A whole new meaning to BSOD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247231460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope they do not run Windows on those ships LOL.</p><p>
&nbsp; I can see the Hurricane helper  now.</p><p>An Unknown Error has occurred.<br>Would you like to</p><p>Abort the mission.<br>Try again<br>Just curl up and die .</p><p>Whatta crock!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope they do not run Windows on those ships LOL .
  I can see the Hurricane helper now.An Unknown Error has occurred.Would you like toAbort the mission.Try againJust curl up and die .Whatta crock !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope they do not run Windows on those ships LOL.
  I can see the Hurricane helper  now.An Unknown Error has occurred.Would you like toAbort the mission.Try againJust curl up and die .Whatta crock!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647975</id>
	<title>I already thought of this!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247231340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A co worker and I were already discussing this!  Bill steals another idea and patents it... what's new?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A co worker and I were already discussing this !
Bill steals another idea and patents it... what 's new ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A co worker and I were already discussing this!
Bill steals another idea and patents it... what's new?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649339</id>
	<title>Patent</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247238960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's suppose for a moment that this would be a valid, usable method to prevent huge natural disasters... should anyone have the right to hold patent for this?<br>Like does anyone have a patent on the idea of 911 operation?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's suppose for a moment that this would be a valid , usable method to prevent huge natural disasters... should anyone have the right to hold patent for this ? Like does anyone have a patent on the idea of 911 operation ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's suppose for a moment that this would be a valid, usable method to prevent huge natural disasters... should anyone have the right to hold patent for this?Like does anyone have a patent on the idea of 911 operation?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650971</id>
	<title>Based as that is on such well-known scientific...</title>
	<author>macraig</author>
	<datestamp>1247245260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... principles involving heat exchange and thermodynamics, why on earth would anyone ever let them patent such a scheme?  That's no more <i>complicated</i> a concept than circulating air from a home through an underground heat sink of stones, which no one would dare try to patent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... principles involving heat exchange and thermodynamics , why on earth would anyone ever let them patent such a scheme ?
That 's no more complicated a concept than circulating air from a home through an underground heat sink of stones , which no one would dare try to patent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... principles involving heat exchange and thermodynamics, why on earth would anyone ever let them patent such a scheme?
That's no more complicated a concept than circulating air from a home through an underground heat sink of stones, which no one would dare try to patent.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28651277</id>
	<title>Gates = Blofeld, Torvalds = Bond?</title>
	<author>coldsalmon</author>
	<datestamp>1247246700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linus better start training now if he's going to defeat Cyborg Supervillain Gates in an apocalyptic showdown on his mobile island fortress.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus better start training now if he 's going to defeat Cyborg Supervillain Gates in an apocalyptic showdown on his mobile island fortress .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus better start training now if he's going to defeat Cyborg Supervillain Gates in an apocalyptic showdown on his mobile island fortress.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648615</id>
	<title>I don't know where you live, but</title>
	<author>The\_mad\_linguist</author>
	<datestamp>1247235660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where I live, the annual rainfall is entirely dependent upon having a couple of hurricane remnants pass by us.  If the hurricane season doesn't turn up anything, we've got a drought.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where I live , the annual rainfall is entirely dependent upon having a couple of hurricane remnants pass by us .
If the hurricane season does n't turn up anything , we 've got a drought .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where I live, the annual rainfall is entirely dependent upon having a couple of hurricane remnants pass by us.
If the hurricane season doesn't turn up anything, we've got a drought.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28653487</id>
	<title>do you expect me to talk???....</title>
	<author>Dragoon235</author>
	<datestamp>1247256240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>no, Mr. Jobs, I expect you to die...</htmltext>
<tokenext>no , Mr. Jobs , I expect you to die.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no, Mr. Jobs, I expect you to die...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648777</id>
	<title>Is there an open source alternative?</title>
	<author>Owlyn</author>
	<datestamp>1247236680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is there an open source alternative?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is there an open source alternative ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is there an open source alternative?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647927</id>
	<title>Next up!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247230980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>He'll have an island in the middle of the ocean with a volcano that has a giant face on it that looks like him.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He 'll have an island in the middle of the ocean with a volcano that has a giant face on it that looks like him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He'll have an island in the middle of the ocean with a volcano that has a giant face on it that looks like him.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648387</id>
	<title>great now whats going to happen to my shrimp..</title>
	<author>Nocturnal Deviant</author>
	<datestamp>1247234400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>trust me im not a PETA member im thinking more about the edible yummies in the ocean...what type of environmental effect could this possibly have on them...like fishie global freezing, i mean i really doubt their climate for water has changed too much in years now imagine it suddenly 20 degrees or so cooler? hell imagine it 20 degrees colder in any of our winters, idk about yall but id move to the equator...</htmltext>
<tokenext>trust me im not a PETA member im thinking more about the edible yummies in the ocean...what type of environmental effect could this possibly have on them...like fishie global freezing , i mean i really doubt their climate for water has changed too much in years now imagine it suddenly 20 degrees or so cooler ?
hell imagine it 20 degrees colder in any of our winters , idk about yall but id move to the equator.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>trust me im not a PETA member im thinking more about the edible yummies in the ocean...what type of environmental effect could this possibly have on them...like fishie global freezing, i mean i really doubt their climate for water has changed too much in years now imagine it suddenly 20 degrees or so cooler?
hell imagine it 20 degrees colder in any of our winters, idk about yall but id move to the equator...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28652095</id>
	<title>Re:Next up!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247250840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Total bs. it maybe a system but it doesnt mean we shouldn't take control of it to better our human lives. People lost their properties, and some lost their lives. Theres nothing natural about it and humans have been working to get a better control of almost everything at the least to better our lives. Try drinking water went natural rains. Youll probably die of thirst.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Total bs .
it maybe a system but it doesnt mean we should n't take control of it to better our human lives .
People lost their properties , and some lost their lives .
Theres nothing natural about it and humans have been working to get a better control of almost everything at the least to better our lives .
Try drinking water went natural rains .
Youll probably die of thirst .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Total bs.
it maybe a system but it doesnt mean we shouldn't take control of it to better our human lives.
People lost their properties, and some lost their lives.
Theres nothing natural about it and humans have been working to get a better control of almost everything at the least to better our lives.
Try drinking water went natural rains.
Youll probably die of thirst.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648627</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649627</id>
	<title>Just leave all of our refrigerator doors open!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247240100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait, you're going to try and dope the Ocean with large enough concentrations of water that has been artificially heated or cooled to make a difference in heat-driven condensation?</p><p>An OCEAN? The single biggest heat reservoir on the planet?</p><p>Good luck. Please dont foot us with the bill. And may the Entropy Ghost haunt your dreams forever!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait , you 're going to try and dope the Ocean with large enough concentrations of water that has been artificially heated or cooled to make a difference in heat-driven condensation ? An OCEAN ?
The single biggest heat reservoir on the planet ? Good luck .
Please dont foot us with the bill .
And may the Entropy Ghost haunt your dreams forever !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait, you're going to try and dope the Ocean with large enough concentrations of water that has been artificially heated or cooled to make a difference in heat-driven condensation?An OCEAN?
The single biggest heat reservoir on the planet?Good luck.
Please dont foot us with the bill.
And may the Entropy Ghost haunt your dreams forever!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648671</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious?</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1247236080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Calculate the energy needed to mix by, say, 10\%, the top 10 feet of a square mile of ocean (then you can use the 10\% to estimate 50\% and so on). You only need to pump 200 million gallons, so it shouldn't be too big a deal.</p><p>Then figure out how much of the roughly 1.6 million square miles of Caribbean Sea and Gulf of Mexico you would need to cover for 'adequate' protection.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Calculate the energy needed to mix by , say , 10 \ % , the top 10 feet of a square mile of ocean ( then you can use the 10 \ % to estimate 50 \ % and so on ) .
You only need to pump 200 million gallons , so it should n't be too big a deal.Then figure out how much of the roughly 1.6 million square miles of Caribbean Sea and Gulf of Mexico you would need to cover for 'adequate ' protection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Calculate the energy needed to mix by, say, 10\%, the top 10 feet of a square mile of ocean (then you can use the 10\% to estimate 50\% and so on).
You only need to pump 200 million gallons, so it shouldn't be too big a deal.Then figure out how much of the roughly 1.6 million square miles of Caribbean Sea and Gulf of Mexico you would need to cover for 'adequate' protection.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648371</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648639</id>
	<title>I have seen it in my family too</title>
	<author>kubitus</author>
	<datestamp>1247235840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>some people who were smart and clever<p>

AND had the proper money not to care about the outcome to do some experiements with unusual things</p><p>
AND were succesful</p><p>
think they are smart enough to be always succesful</p><p>
And then emporer Qin had the Terracotta Army built</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>some people who were smart and clever AND had the proper money not to care about the outcome to do some experiements with unusual things AND were succesful think they are smart enough to be always succesful And then emporer Qin had the Terracotta Army built</tokentext>
<sentencetext>some people who were smart and clever

AND had the proper money not to care about the outcome to do some experiements with unusual things
AND were succesful
think they are smart enough to be always succesful
And then emporer Qin had the Terracotta Army built</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649775</id>
	<title>Changing weather is EASY!</title>
	<author>140Mandak262Jamuna</author>
	<datestamp>1247240760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>All you need is some honeysuckle wines or stonecrop bushes! These plants plants make copious quantities of nector and they attract butterflies and honeybees. Everyone knows the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly\_effect" title="wikipedia.org"> butterfly effect,</a> [wikipedia.org] the beating of wings of butterfly in Brazil will affect the weather in Tokyo two weeks later. So with enough of these bushes spread around the globe, we can affect the weather all over the world. Simple Easy as a peach.</htmltext>
<tokenext>All you need is some honeysuckle wines or stonecrop bushes !
These plants plants make copious quantities of nector and they attract butterflies and honeybees .
Everyone knows the butterfly effect , [ wikipedia.org ] the beating of wings of butterfly in Brazil will affect the weather in Tokyo two weeks later .
So with enough of these bushes spread around the globe , we can affect the weather all over the world .
Simple Easy as a peach .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All you need is some honeysuckle wines or stonecrop bushes!
These plants plants make copious quantities of nector and they attract butterflies and honeybees.
Everyone knows the  butterfly effect, [wikipedia.org] the beating of wings of butterfly in Brazil will affect the weather in Tokyo two weeks later.
So with enough of these bushes spread around the globe, we can affect the weather all over the world.
Simple Easy as a peach.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648435</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28655521</id>
	<title>RROD + BSOD</title>
	<author>HermMunster</author>
	<datestamp>1247224380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will become the RSOD or Red Sea of Death.</p><p>This whole idea is ludicrous. Gates needs to become another Howard Hughs reclusive.  I'm getting too much of his bullshit factor in my life.</p><p>The fact that this was even allowed as a patent is wholly crazy.  They need to have created and completed/tested.  Otherwise it should not be allowed to be patented.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will become the RSOD or Red Sea of Death.This whole idea is ludicrous .
Gates needs to become another Howard Hughs reclusive .
I 'm getting too much of his bullshit factor in my life.The fact that this was even allowed as a patent is wholly crazy .
They need to have created and completed/tested .
Otherwise it should not be allowed to be patented .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will become the RSOD or Red Sea of Death.This whole idea is ludicrous.
Gates needs to become another Howard Hughs reclusive.
I'm getting too much of his bullshit factor in my life.The fact that this was even allowed as a patent is wholly crazy.
They need to have created and completed/tested.
Otherwise it should not be allowed to be patented.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649105</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1247238060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Easy. First we develop a method for creating hurricanes. Once we can reliably spawn hurricanes at will, we can test our methods of stopping them. Personally, I'm all for just turning off disasters.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Easy .
First we develop a method for creating hurricanes .
Once we can reliably spawn hurricanes at will , we can test our methods of stopping them .
Personally , I 'm all for just turning off disasters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Easy.
First we develop a method for creating hurricanes.
Once we can reliably spawn hurricanes at will, we can test our methods of stopping them.
Personally, I'm all for just turning off disasters.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647933</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650269</id>
	<title>Re:No, gates can't, because Bush flooded New Orlea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247242560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well aren't you just a little George Bush hater?</p><p>First of all, as stated by others the President doesn't write the budget.  Congress does.  Congress controls the money all the President can due is approve what they send him.</p><p>Second, the reason there was no emergency aid after Katrina is not because of Bush.  It was because of the governor of Louisiana.  The state's have the ultimate sovereignty.  The federal government cannot help until it is requested by the states.  The governor of Louisiana refused to let the federal government help for quite some time, hence the lack of emergency personnel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well are n't you just a little George Bush hater ? First of all , as stated by others the President does n't write the budget .
Congress does .
Congress controls the money all the President can due is approve what they send him.Second , the reason there was no emergency aid after Katrina is not because of Bush .
It was because of the governor of Louisiana .
The state 's have the ultimate sovereignty .
The federal government can not help until it is requested by the states .
The governor of Louisiana refused to let the federal government help for quite some time , hence the lack of emergency personnel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well aren't you just a little George Bush hater?First of all, as stated by others the President doesn't write the budget.
Congress does.
Congress controls the money all the President can due is approve what they send him.Second, the reason there was no emergency aid after Katrina is not because of Bush.
It was because of the governor of Louisiana.
The state's have the ultimate sovereignty.
The federal government cannot help until it is requested by the states.
The governor of Louisiana refused to let the federal government help for quite some time, hence the lack of emergency personnel.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648447</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648213</id>
	<title>Lousy idea, for 2 reasons ...</title>
	<author>tomhudson</author>
	<datestamp>1247233200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><ol>
<li>
The cold water is at depth for a reason - it's heavier.  It'll take a lot of energy (more heat, more greenhouse gases, etc) to pump cold water to the surface</li>
<li>
The cold water isn't going to float on the surface for the same reason - it's heavier.</li>
</ol></htmltext>
<tokenext>The cold water is at depth for a reason - it 's heavier .
It 'll take a lot of energy ( more heat , more greenhouse gases , etc ) to pump cold water to the surface The cold water is n't going to float on the surface for the same reason - it 's heavier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>

The cold water is at depth for a reason - it's heavier.
It'll take a lot of energy (more heat, more greenhouse gases, etc) to pump cold water to the surface

The cold water isn't going to float on the surface for the same reason - it's heavier.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648703</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247236320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is what I was thinking as soon as I read the article.   Even if it works (and the theory seems valid if they could do it on a massive enough scale, but it would have to be MASSSIVE) what else are you screwing up by doing this?  What place do hurricanes occupy in the ecosystem of the east coast of the US?  How is all of this cold water going to affect marine life?  I mean, you'd need HUGE amount of colder water to affect storm development.  We're talking about one of nature's most powerful forces here, you're not going to break it up by dumping a couple of buckets of ice.  You're making a huge expanse of the upper ocean several degrees cooler, and simultaneously making a huge expanse of the lower ocean several degrees warmer, what's that going to do?</p><p>And before some anti-environmentalist starts saying "Well, yeah, but who cares if we screw up the ecosystem a bit if we're saving lives and property?", do you think the people on the Gulf Coast will thank you if you eliminate hurricanes but cause an overgrowth of algae that ruins the fishing and shrimping industries?  Those industries are critical to southern Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and a good chunk of Florida.  Or if the weather pattern change causes a heat up in the region and traditional crops to fail?  Or for that matter a cool down with the same affect?  We have no idea what this kind of thing could do, even assuming we got it to work.</p><p>This would need tons of modeling and study before it could be safely deployed, and even then, as parent said, if should be used sparingly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is what I was thinking as soon as I read the article .
Even if it works ( and the theory seems valid if they could do it on a massive enough scale , but it would have to be MASSSIVE ) what else are you screwing up by doing this ?
What place do hurricanes occupy in the ecosystem of the east coast of the US ?
How is all of this cold water going to affect marine life ?
I mean , you 'd need HUGE amount of colder water to affect storm development .
We 're talking about one of nature 's most powerful forces here , you 're not going to break it up by dumping a couple of buckets of ice .
You 're making a huge expanse of the upper ocean several degrees cooler , and simultaneously making a huge expanse of the lower ocean several degrees warmer , what 's that going to do ? And before some anti-environmentalist starts saying " Well , yeah , but who cares if we screw up the ecosystem a bit if we 're saving lives and property ?
" , do you think the people on the Gulf Coast will thank you if you eliminate hurricanes but cause an overgrowth of algae that ruins the fishing and shrimping industries ?
Those industries are critical to southern Louisiana , Mississippi , Alabama , and a good chunk of Florida .
Or if the weather pattern change causes a heat up in the region and traditional crops to fail ?
Or for that matter a cool down with the same affect ?
We have no idea what this kind of thing could do , even assuming we got it to work.This would need tons of modeling and study before it could be safely deployed , and even then , as parent said , if should be used sparingly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is what I was thinking as soon as I read the article.
Even if it works (and the theory seems valid if they could do it on a massive enough scale, but it would have to be MASSSIVE) what else are you screwing up by doing this?
What place do hurricanes occupy in the ecosystem of the east coast of the US?
How is all of this cold water going to affect marine life?
I mean, you'd need HUGE amount of colder water to affect storm development.
We're talking about one of nature's most powerful forces here, you're not going to break it up by dumping a couple of buckets of ice.
You're making a huge expanse of the upper ocean several degrees cooler, and simultaneously making a huge expanse of the lower ocean several degrees warmer, what's that going to do?And before some anti-environmentalist starts saying "Well, yeah, but who cares if we screw up the ecosystem a bit if we're saving lives and property?
", do you think the people on the Gulf Coast will thank you if you eliminate hurricanes but cause an overgrowth of algae that ruins the fishing and shrimping industries?
Those industries are critical to southern Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and a good chunk of Florida.
Or if the weather pattern change causes a heat up in the region and traditional crops to fail?
Or for that matter a cool down with the same affect?
We have no idea what this kind of thing could do, even assuming we got it to work.This would need tons of modeling and study before it could be safely deployed, and even then, as parent said, if should be used sparingly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648015</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648201</id>
	<title>1000 level</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247233080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I took a 1000 level Earth and Atmospheric Sciences class a few years ago and one of the first things we touched upon was this idea. And why it wouldn't work. Before we even ask the question of why Bill Gates is doing this, let's ask the question of why he's <b>patenting</b> it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I took a 1000 level Earth and Atmospheric Sciences class a few years ago and one of the first things we touched upon was this idea .
And why it would n't work .
Before we even ask the question of why Bill Gates is doing this , let 's ask the question of why he 's patenting it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I took a 1000 level Earth and Atmospheric Sciences class a few years ago and one of the first things we touched upon was this idea.
And why it wouldn't work.
Before we even ask the question of why Bill Gates is doing this, let's ask the question of why he's patenting it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28651653</id>
	<title>Perhaps not the best idea right now</title>
	<author>lttlordfault</author>
	<datestamp>1247248860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Many scientists believe that if the earths climate warms by more than 2 degrees Celsius then we move beyond a tipping point that leads to exponentially warming, killing off almost all life on earth.<p>
There's already enough carbon dioxide and other  greenhouse gases in our atmosphere now to warm our planet 0.7 degrees Celsius. What's stopping this temperature rise  from being immediate is the worlds oceans acting as a massive heat sink buffering the effect.</p><p> If such an effort ever took place it would end up pumping huge amounts of warm water to the cold depths, basically stirring up this huge heat sink. Theoretically it could prove to be quite effective in the short term, but it will only make the problem worse as next year there's more warm water to fuel bigger hurricanes. </p><p>
In the end it could seal our fate</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Many scientists believe that if the earths climate warms by more than 2 degrees Celsius then we move beyond a tipping point that leads to exponentially warming , killing off almost all life on earth .
There 's already enough carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases in our atmosphere now to warm our planet 0.7 degrees Celsius .
What 's stopping this temperature rise from being immediate is the worlds oceans acting as a massive heat sink buffering the effect .
If such an effort ever took place it would end up pumping huge amounts of warm water to the cold depths , basically stirring up this huge heat sink .
Theoretically it could prove to be quite effective in the short term , but it will only make the problem worse as next year there 's more warm water to fuel bigger hurricanes .
In the end it could seal our fate</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many scientists believe that if the earths climate warms by more than 2 degrees Celsius then we move beyond a tipping point that leads to exponentially warming, killing off almost all life on earth.
There's already enough carbon dioxide and other  greenhouse gases in our atmosphere now to warm our planet 0.7 degrees Celsius.
What's stopping this temperature rise  from being immediate is the worlds oceans acting as a massive heat sink buffering the effect.
If such an effort ever took place it would end up pumping huge amounts of warm water to the cold depths, basically stirring up this huge heat sink.
Theoretically it could prove to be quite effective in the short term, but it will only make the problem worse as next year there's more warm water to fuel bigger hurricanes.
In the end it could seal our fate</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648157</id>
	<title>It's apropos that Gates should be the one doing it</title>
	<author>jra</author>
	<datestamp>1247232780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cause the most prominent argument regularly put forth as to why weather control is bad is:</p><p>Do *you* want to be the one who causes lots of insurance companies to have to pay out because someone can make a reasonable case that where the hurricane landed was no longer an Act Of God?</p><p>Gates is used to playing God.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cause the most prominent argument regularly put forth as to why weather control is bad is : Do * you * want to be the one who causes lots of insurance companies to have to pay out because someone can make a reasonable case that where the hurricane landed was no longer an Act Of God ? Gates is used to playing God .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cause the most prominent argument regularly put forth as to why weather control is bad is:Do *you* want to be the one who causes lots of insurance companies to have to pay out because someone can make a reasonable case that where the hurricane landed was no longer an Act Of God?Gates is used to playing God.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648995</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>SPickett</author>
	<datestamp>1247237580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You start with a model that predicts hurricane strength based on many input parameters, one of which is surface temperature of the water.  They already have this.  They use it to create the projected storm track and strength of hurricanes that you see on TV all the time.</p><p>They create (or already have) models that project how much Gates' method drops ocean surface temperatures.  The reason I suspect they already have such a model is it would be useful for optimizing the number and placement of boats.</p><p>Plug Gates' projected temperature drop back into NOAA's hurricane model and you have a projected reduction in strength of the hurricane.  After the hurricane passes, they could use the actual track/wind speeds/temperatures to check the accuracy of their models.</p><p>How many hurricanes it would require to get statistical significance would depend on how effective the method is.  If the method only drops the max sustained wind speed 1 MPH, it would take forever to show significance.  But, his invention wouldn't be very useful anyway.  However, if it dropped speeds by 10 or 20 MPH, it would show up much quicker.  It would also be obvious and encourage them to continue from the models even before they reached a 90\% or 95\% significance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You start with a model that predicts hurricane strength based on many input parameters , one of which is surface temperature of the water .
They already have this .
They use it to create the projected storm track and strength of hurricanes that you see on TV all the time.They create ( or already have ) models that project how much Gates ' method drops ocean surface temperatures .
The reason I suspect they already have such a model is it would be useful for optimizing the number and placement of boats.Plug Gates ' projected temperature drop back into NOAA 's hurricane model and you have a projected reduction in strength of the hurricane .
After the hurricane passes , they could use the actual track/wind speeds/temperatures to check the accuracy of their models.How many hurricanes it would require to get statistical significance would depend on how effective the method is .
If the method only drops the max sustained wind speed 1 MPH , it would take forever to show significance .
But , his invention would n't be very useful anyway .
However , if it dropped speeds by 10 or 20 MPH , it would show up much quicker .
It would also be obvious and encourage them to continue from the models even before they reached a 90 \ % or 95 \ % significance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You start with a model that predicts hurricane strength based on many input parameters, one of which is surface temperature of the water.
They already have this.
They use it to create the projected storm track and strength of hurricanes that you see on TV all the time.They create (or already have) models that project how much Gates' method drops ocean surface temperatures.
The reason I suspect they already have such a model is it would be useful for optimizing the number and placement of boats.Plug Gates' projected temperature drop back into NOAA's hurricane model and you have a projected reduction in strength of the hurricane.
After the hurricane passes, they could use the actual track/wind speeds/temperatures to check the accuracy of their models.How many hurricanes it would require to get statistical significance would depend on how effective the method is.
If the method only drops the max sustained wind speed 1 MPH, it would take forever to show significance.
But, his invention wouldn't be very useful anyway.
However, if it dropped speeds by 10 or 20 MPH, it would show up much quicker.
It would also be obvious and encourage them to continue from the models even before they reached a 90\% or 95\% significance.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647933</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648795</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>nizo</author>
	<datestamp>1247236740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As someone who lives in the quite arid southwest, I would be pretty pissed if we stopped getting less rain here, and we do indeed get showers that are a direct consequence of hurricanes. So yeah, messing with the hurricanes is going to cause horrible consequences we can't even imagine right now. But at least all those million dollar beach homes won't need to be rebuilt next year.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone who lives in the quite arid southwest , I would be pretty pissed if we stopped getting less rain here , and we do indeed get showers that are a direct consequence of hurricanes .
So yeah , messing with the hurricanes is going to cause horrible consequences we ca n't even imagine right now .
But at least all those million dollar beach homes wo n't need to be rebuilt next year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone who lives in the quite arid southwest, I would be pretty pissed if we stopped getting less rain here, and we do indeed get showers that are a direct consequence of hurricanes.
So yeah, messing with the hurricanes is going to cause horrible consequences we can't even imagine right now.
But at least all those million dollar beach homes won't need to be rebuilt next year.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648015</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28654781</id>
	<title>Depending how you look at it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247219340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You might consider the ocean a giant blue screen of death when Bill Gates gets through with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You might consider the ocean a giant blue screen of death when Bill Gates gets through with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You might consider the ocean a giant blue screen of death when Bill Gates gets through with it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648291</id>
	<title>Isn't this all linked??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247233740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am no enviromental scientist or anything...</p><p>But wouldn't decreasing the surface temperature of the ocean also decrease the temperature of the winds blowing over it and subsequently result in affecting the global temperature substantially?  Hmm...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am no enviromental scientist or anything...But would n't decreasing the surface temperature of the ocean also decrease the temperature of the winds blowing over it and subsequently result in affecting the global temperature substantially ?
Hmm.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am no enviromental scientist or anything...But wouldn't decreasing the surface temperature of the ocean also decrease the temperature of the winds blowing over it and subsequently result in affecting the global temperature substantially?
Hmm...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648221</id>
	<title>Hurricane BSOD</title>
	<author>mc1138</author>
	<datestamp>1247233260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I guess Bill is taking what he learned from Windows and applying it to the weather...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess Bill is taking what he learned from Windows and applying it to the weather.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess Bill is taking what he learned from Windows and applying it to the weather...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648935</id>
	<title>icecube in the oceoan</title>
	<author>markringen</author>
	<datestamp>1247237220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>it's like trowing a giant icecube in the ocean.
not gonna change a thing, just build the dams we dutch proposed and be safe for another 200 years....

stupid icecube in the ocean is not going to protect u from anything...</htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's like trowing a giant icecube in the ocean .
not gon na change a thing , just build the dams we dutch proposed and be safe for another 200 years... . stupid icecube in the ocean is not going to protect u from anything.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's like trowing a giant icecube in the ocean.
not gonna change a thing, just build the dams we dutch proposed and be safe for another 200 years....

stupid icecube in the ocean is not going to protect u from anything...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650967</id>
	<title>Drunk</title>
	<author>mmaniaci</author>
	<datestamp>1247245260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think Billy was a bit tossed and made a prank call to the patent office.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think Billy was a bit tossed and made a prank call to the patent office .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think Billy was a bit tossed and made a prank call to the patent office.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647941</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>noundi</author>
	<datestamp>1247231100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Where do you want to blow today?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Where do you want to blow today ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Where do you want to blow today?
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647929</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648471</id>
	<title>Re:Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>martas</author>
	<datestamp>1247234820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>they used windows on military vessels, so what did you expect...</htmltext>
<tokenext>they used windows on military vessels , so what did you expect.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they used windows on military vessels, so what did you expect...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648155</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648745</id>
	<title>Re:Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>Bigby</author>
	<datestamp>1247236500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, all you have to do is move the water 10 meters down to the top</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , all you have to do is move the water 10 meters down to the top</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, all you have to do is move the water 10 meters down to the top</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648345</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28655507</id>
	<title>Re:Error in logic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247224320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a lot easier to pump cold water up and let it absorb heat as it mixes with the other water (gaining a net cooling of the water) than it is to pump water down.  The reason is that a) there's less atmospheric pressure at the surface and b) air is less dense than water for replacement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a lot easier to pump cold water up and let it absorb heat as it mixes with the other water ( gaining a net cooling of the water ) than it is to pump water down .
The reason is that a ) there 's less atmospheric pressure at the surface and b ) air is less dense than water for replacement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a lot easier to pump cold water up and let it absorb heat as it mixes with the other water (gaining a net cooling of the water) than it is to pump water down.
The reason is that a) there's less atmospheric pressure at the surface and b) air is less dense than water for replacement.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648427</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28658203</id>
	<title>Unintended consequences... ?</title>
	<author>peas\_n\_carrots</author>
	<datestamp>1247342820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>1st thing that occurred to me was this could cause dangerous unintended consequences.  For instance, while hurricanes are destructive to the coastal areas, they bring much needed moisture and rainfall into the main continent.  The Gulf of Mexico is a prime example.  States in the SW get very hot &amp; dry in the summer and the high pressure prevents moisture from moving in.  The only thing strong enough to push that high pressure out is a hurricane.  Without some rain during the summer, the land would turn into a dry dustbowl.<br>
<br>
In any case, why would you trust manipulation of global weather patterns to someone who thought that 640kB would be more than anyone would ever need?</htmltext>
<tokenext>1st thing that occurred to me was this could cause dangerous unintended consequences .
For instance , while hurricanes are destructive to the coastal areas , they bring much needed moisture and rainfall into the main continent .
The Gulf of Mexico is a prime example .
States in the SW get very hot &amp; dry in the summer and the high pressure prevents moisture from moving in .
The only thing strong enough to push that high pressure out is a hurricane .
Without some rain during the summer , the land would turn into a dry dustbowl .
In any case , why would you trust manipulation of global weather patterns to someone who thought that 640kB would be more than anyone would ever need ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1st thing that occurred to me was this could cause dangerous unintended consequences.
For instance, while hurricanes are destructive to the coastal areas, they bring much needed moisture and rainfall into the main continent.
The Gulf of Mexico is a prime example.
States in the SW get very hot &amp; dry in the summer and the high pressure prevents moisture from moving in.
The only thing strong enough to push that high pressure out is a hurricane.
Without some rain during the summer, the land would turn into a dry dustbowl.
In any case, why would you trust manipulation of global weather patterns to someone who thought that 640kB would be more than anyone would ever need?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648571</id>
	<title>Re:Finally! Some use for the tactical nuclear bomb</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247235420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Man, this is a terrible idea.  Sheesh, take that money and invest in nano building materials.  Build houses that can withstand hurricanes without problems and you'd be much better off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Man , this is a terrible idea .
Sheesh , take that money and invest in nano building materials .
Build houses that can withstand hurricanes without problems and you 'd be much better off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Man, this is a terrible idea.
Sheesh, take that money and invest in nano building materials.
Build houses that can withstand hurricanes without problems and you'd be much better off.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648369</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648341</id>
	<title>How excessively dumb</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247234040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, in the short term, this will cool the surface temperatures.</p><p>However, warmer water cannot hold on to as much CO2. This is the reason for, ~800 years after warming by being nearer the sun, the oceans release CO2 and increase the effect of the milankovich cycle.</p><p>It takes, without deliberate mixing by humans, 800 years to warm the deep waters enough to let go of its load.</p><p>With mixing, not so long.</p><p>Is this barnpot dictator INSANE????</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , in the short term , this will cool the surface temperatures.However , warmer water can not hold on to as much CO2 .
This is the reason for , ~ 800 years after warming by being nearer the sun , the oceans release CO2 and increase the effect of the milankovich cycle.It takes , without deliberate mixing by humans , 800 years to warm the deep waters enough to let go of its load.With mixing , not so long.Is this barnpot dictator INSANE ? ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, in the short term, this will cool the surface temperatures.However, warmer water cannot hold on to as much CO2.
This is the reason for, ~800 years after warming by being nearer the sun, the oceans release CO2 and increase the effect of the milankovich cycle.It takes, without deliberate mixing by humans, 800 years to warm the deep waters enough to let go of its load.With mixing, not so long.Is this barnpot dictator INSANE???
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28652337</id>
	<title>Job One</title>
	<author>ThatsNotPudding</author>
	<datestamp>1247251680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Before mucking about in meat space, Bill and friends need to back the creation of weather / climate modeling that is dead nuts accurate.  Once you have about 5 years of 90\%+ correct predictions on both the macro / micro levels, then start your 'what if' simulations and see if they pan out or not.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Before mucking about in meat space , Bill and friends need to back the creation of weather / climate modeling that is dead nuts accurate .
Once you have about 5 years of 90 \ % + correct predictions on both the macro / micro levels , then start your 'what if ' simulations and see if they pan out or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Before mucking about in meat space, Bill and friends need to back the creation of weather / climate modeling that is dead nuts accurate.
Once you have about 5 years of 90\%+ correct predictions on both the macro / micro levels, then start your 'what if' simulations and see if they pan out or not.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649929</id>
	<title>Re:Next up!</title>
	<author>weiserfireman</author>
	<datestamp>1247241240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext> The law of unintended consequences plays a huge role here.<br> <br>

During years that have few hurricanes, most of the SE US experiences drought conditions.   Yes, hurricanes have a great ability to do large amounts of damage, but they also bring large quantities of rain to many regions of the planet.  <br> <br>

If we eliminate hurricanes, how do we replace this moisture?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The law of unintended consequences plays a huge role here .
During years that have few hurricanes , most of the SE US experiences drought conditions .
Yes , hurricanes have a great ability to do large amounts of damage , but they also bring large quantities of rain to many regions of the planet .
If we eliminate hurricanes , how do we replace this moisture ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The law of unintended consequences plays a huge role here.
During years that have few hurricanes, most of the SE US experiences drought conditions.
Yes, hurricanes have a great ability to do large amounts of damage, but they also bring large quantities of rain to many regions of the planet.
If we eliminate hurricanes, how do we replace this moisture?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648627</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648263</id>
	<title>Gates should heavily arm his fleet . . .</title>
	<author>PolygamousRanchKid </author>
	<datestamp>1247233560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> . . . he is destined to encounter, and do battle with piracy.
</p><p>This time the real thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.
. .
he is destined to encounter , and do battle with piracy .
This time the real thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> .
. .
he is destined to encounter, and do battle with piracy.
This time the real thing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648219</id>
	<title>After the disaster that was Vista...</title>
	<author>kulakovich</author>
	<datestamp>1247233260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>... he owes us one.<br> <br>kulakovich</htmltext>
<tokenext>... he owes us one .
kulakovich</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... he owes us one.
kulakovich</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648435</id>
	<title>Anyone who thinks they can change the weather..</title>
	<author>WCMI92</author>
	<datestamp>1247234700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone who thinks they can change the weather is either absorbed in hubris or insane.</p><p>A Hurricane can't be stopped or prevented.  Or influenced in any way by anything human beings could do to it.  You could detonate the largest nuclear bomb ever made in the middle of a hurricane and it wouldn't even dent it.  A hurricane has so much energy that it releases more energy than all explosives ever detonated by humans every MINUTE...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone who thinks they can change the weather is either absorbed in hubris or insane.A Hurricane ca n't be stopped or prevented .
Or influenced in any way by anything human beings could do to it .
You could detonate the largest nuclear bomb ever made in the middle of a hurricane and it would n't even dent it .
A hurricane has so much energy that it releases more energy than all explosives ever detonated by humans every MINUTE.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone who thinks they can change the weather is either absorbed in hubris or insane.A Hurricane can't be stopped or prevented.
Or influenced in any way by anything human beings could do to it.
You could detonate the largest nuclear bomb ever made in the middle of a hurricane and it wouldn't even dent it.
A hurricane has so much energy that it releases more energy than all explosives ever detonated by humans every MINUTE...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648751</id>
	<title>Finally someone trying something to help</title>
	<author>zroth</author>
	<datestamp>1247236500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I give him credit for trying. Most people are just standing line for a new iPhone or wasting their life complaining about someone else's attempts to accomplish something. Peace</htmltext>
<tokenext>I give him credit for trying .
Most people are just standing line for a new iPhone or wasting their life complaining about someone else 's attempts to accomplish something .
Peace</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I give him credit for trying.
Most people are just standing line for a new iPhone or wasting their life complaining about someone else's attempts to accomplish something.
Peace</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649257</id>
	<title>Worse idea than rampant CO2</title>
	<author>Skull\_Leader</author>
	<datestamp>1247238660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>As soon as someone thinks that can control or SHOULD control the weather we are doomed. Despite the losses seen in violent storms and other weather events, those events keep our world in balance and in check. There are more factors involved than we can comprehend or yet understand. Changes in humidity, movement of seeds/soils... so many things. The problem is, not to sound too greenie, is that we treat the earth like we own it, not like we are part of it. The more we influence it (actively or passively) the more likely it is to get messed up and for things to get worse for us. We need the Earth... it doesn't need us.

I think Gates, the meglomaniac/idiot savant, should stick to giving his billions to those less fortunate and leave mother nature alone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As soon as someone thinks that can control or SHOULD control the weather we are doomed .
Despite the losses seen in violent storms and other weather events , those events keep our world in balance and in check .
There are more factors involved than we can comprehend or yet understand .
Changes in humidity , movement of seeds/soils... so many things .
The problem is , not to sound too greenie , is that we treat the earth like we own it , not like we are part of it .
The more we influence it ( actively or passively ) the more likely it is to get messed up and for things to get worse for us .
We need the Earth... it does n't need us .
I think Gates , the meglomaniac/idiot savant , should stick to giving his billions to those less fortunate and leave mother nature alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As soon as someone thinks that can control or SHOULD control the weather we are doomed.
Despite the losses seen in violent storms and other weather events, those events keep our world in balance and in check.
There are more factors involved than we can comprehend or yet understand.
Changes in humidity, movement of seeds/soils... so many things.
The problem is, not to sound too greenie, is that we treat the earth like we own it, not like we are part of it.
The more we influence it (actively or passively) the more likely it is to get messed up and for things to get worse for us.
We need the Earth... it doesn't need us.
I think Gates, the meglomaniac/idiot savant, should stick to giving his billions to those less fortunate and leave mother nature alone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647985</id>
	<title>Please</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247231460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are things we should not play with on the same planet as we LIVE ON!</p><p>I am sure you have good intentions with all this Gates, but the LAST thing we want to do is screw around with the weather.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are things we should not play with on the same planet as we LIVE ON ! I am sure you have good intentions with all this Gates , but the LAST thing we want to do is screw around with the weather .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are things we should not play with on the same planet as we LIVE ON!I am sure you have good intentions with all this Gates, but the LAST thing we want to do is screw around with the weather.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649349</id>
	<title>Re:Anyone who thinks they can change the weather..</title>
	<author>Legion303</author>
	<datestamp>1247238960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You didn't bother to read the entire summary, did you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You did n't bother to read the entire summary , did you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You didn't bother to read the entire summary, did you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648435</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648127</id>
	<title>Where is the Borg icon?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247232540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>/. guys, this is the exact time to use Borg icon and it is missing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>/ .
guys , this is the exact time to use Borg icon and it is missing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>/.
guys, this is the exact time to use Borg icon and it is missing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28654787</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>Carnildo</author>
	<datestamp>1247219400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>This is what I was thinking as soon as I read the article. Even if it works (and the theory seems valid if they could do it on a massive enough scale, but it would have to be MASSSIVE) what else are you screwing up by doing this? What place do hurricanes occupy in the ecosystem of the east coast of the US?</p></div> </blockquote><p>Just off the top of my head, eliminating Atlantic hurricanes will<br>1) Cause long-term droughts in Appalacia and the Midwest, possibly drying them to the point of resembling the Great Plains (Kentucky, for example, gets the majority of its rain from hurricane remnants).<br>2) Cause the East Coast to dry up somewhat (the coast is less dependant on hurricanes for rainfall).<br>3) Cool central Canada, reducing the growing season.</p><p>Possible additional impacts:<br>* Cooling northern Europe (hurricanes move a <i>lot</i> of heat northward).<br>* Reduce the severity of tornadoes in the Midwest and Great Plains (less humid air means fewer thunderstorms).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is what I was thinking as soon as I read the article .
Even if it works ( and the theory seems valid if they could do it on a massive enough scale , but it would have to be MASSSIVE ) what else are you screwing up by doing this ?
What place do hurricanes occupy in the ecosystem of the east coast of the US ?
Just off the top of my head , eliminating Atlantic hurricanes will1 ) Cause long-term droughts in Appalacia and the Midwest , possibly drying them to the point of resembling the Great Plains ( Kentucky , for example , gets the majority of its rain from hurricane remnants ) .2 ) Cause the East Coast to dry up somewhat ( the coast is less dependant on hurricanes for rainfall ) .3 ) Cool central Canada , reducing the growing season.Possible additional impacts : * Cooling northern Europe ( hurricanes move a lot of heat northward ) .
* Reduce the severity of tornadoes in the Midwest and Great Plains ( less humid air means fewer thunderstorms ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is what I was thinking as soon as I read the article.
Even if it works (and the theory seems valid if they could do it on a massive enough scale, but it would have to be MASSSIVE) what else are you screwing up by doing this?
What place do hurricanes occupy in the ecosystem of the east coast of the US?
Just off the top of my head, eliminating Atlantic hurricanes will1) Cause long-term droughts in Appalacia and the Midwest, possibly drying them to the point of resembling the Great Plains (Kentucky, for example, gets the majority of its rain from hurricane remnants).2) Cause the East Coast to dry up somewhat (the coast is less dependant on hurricanes for rainfall).3) Cool central Canada, reducing the growing season.Possible additional impacts:* Cooling northern Europe (hurricanes move a lot of heat northward).
* Reduce the severity of tornadoes in the Midwest and Great Plains (less humid air means fewer thunderstorms).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648373</id>
	<title>Re:Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>The Mgt</author>
	<datestamp>1247234280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nah. He's more like John Klieg, the patent troll from John Barnes' <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Mother-Storms-John-Barnes/dp/0812533453" title="amazon.com">Mother of Storms</a> [amazon.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nah .
He 's more like John Klieg , the patent troll from John Barnes ' Mother of Storms [ amazon.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nah.
He's more like John Klieg, the patent troll from John Barnes' Mother of Storms [amazon.com].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648155</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28656647</id>
	<title>Remember Mark McKinney's SNL skit??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247233560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First post, but had to comment on the Weather Control portion of this 12yo skit!</p><p>http://snlarc.jt.org/detail.php?i=1997011816</p><p>Anyone?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First post , but had to comment on the Weather Control portion of this 12yo skit ! http : //snlarc.jt.org/detail.php ? i = 1997011816Anyone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First post, but had to comment on the Weather Control portion of this 12yo skit!http://snlarc.jt.org/detail.php?i=1997011816Anyone?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650331</id>
	<title>Re:Next up!</title>
	<author>Alinabi</author>
	<datestamp>1247242800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Finally. It was about time someone made tropical weather as stable as Vista.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Finally .
It was about time someone made tropical weather as stable as Vista .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Finally.
It was about time someone made tropical weather as stable as Vista.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648627</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648043</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>Sockatume</author>
	<datestamp>1247231880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gifs/atlhist\_lowres.gif" title="noaa.gov">For the curious</a> [noaa.gov]. I'm not going to sit down and read out the data and figure out the standard deviation, but you're not kidding. You'd have to do this for decades to know how effective it was, and if it turns out to be useless, the environmental cost would have been wasted. I'd hate to be the guy who gets to do the risk-benefit analysis on that one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For the curious [ noaa.gov ] .
I 'm not going to sit down and read out the data and figure out the standard deviation , but you 're not kidding .
You 'd have to do this for decades to know how effective it was , and if it turns out to be useless , the environmental cost would have been wasted .
I 'd hate to be the guy who gets to do the risk-benefit analysis on that one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the curious [noaa.gov].
I'm not going to sit down and read out the data and figure out the standard deviation, but you're not kidding.
You'd have to do this for decades to know how effective it was, and if it turns out to be useless, the environmental cost would have been wasted.
I'd hate to be the guy who gets to do the risk-benefit analysis on that one.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647933</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648649</id>
	<title>Re:Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>dargaud</author>
	<datestamp>1247235900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There exists something called the British Thermal Unit</p></div><p>No it doesn't. On the other hand there's something called Joules, which is the official unit of energy. And it measures energy out of Britain too  C;-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There exists something called the British Thermal UnitNo it does n't .
On the other hand there 's something called Joules , which is the official unit of energy .
And it measures energy out of Britain too C ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There exists something called the British Thermal UnitNo it doesn't.
On the other hand there's something called Joules, which is the official unit of energy.
And it measures energy out of Britain too  C;-)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648155</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649623</id>
	<title>Run2theHills!</title>
	<author>chord.wav</author>
	<datestamp>1247240100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Expect heavy floods and hurricanes in Cupertino and Mountain View. If this madman can't control the OS market, nobody will!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Expect heavy floods and hurricanes in Cupertino and Mountain View .
If this madman ca n't control the OS market , nobody will !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Expect heavy floods and hurricanes in Cupertino and Mountain View.
If this madman can't control the OS market, nobody will!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648727</id>
	<title>Why doesn't he</title>
	<author>ultral0rd</author>
	<datestamp>1247236380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just kill all the butterflies?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just kill all the butterflies ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just kill all the butterflies?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647947</id>
	<title>Can anyone say environmental catastrophe?...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247231100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can anyone say environmental catastrophe?...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can anyone say environmental catastrophe ? .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can anyone say environmental catastrophe?...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649877</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>blueg3</author>
	<datestamp>1247241120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looks like a mean of 8, which suggests a standard deviation of about 3. Actual data seems a little higher than that, but not much. How big your influence is directly determines how difficult it would be to measure that. Two years with zero storms is an extreme result, but would be statistically valid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like a mean of 8 , which suggests a standard deviation of about 3 .
Actual data seems a little higher than that , but not much .
How big your influence is directly determines how difficult it would be to measure that .
Two years with zero storms is an extreme result , but would be statistically valid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like a mean of 8, which suggests a standard deviation of about 3.
Actual data seems a little higher than that, but not much.
How big your influence is directly determines how difficult it would be to measure that.
Two years with zero storms is an extreme result, but would be statistically valid.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647933</id>
	<title>How will they know..</title>
	<author>Rockoon</author>
	<datestamp>1247231040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lets say they implement this sort of thing..<br>
<br>
How will they ever know that they reduced the number of storms?<br>
<br>
The number of storms on a yearly basis is anything but consistent.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lets say they implement this sort of thing. . How will they ever know that they reduced the number of storms ?
The number of storms on a yearly basis is anything but consistent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lets say they implement this sort of thing..

How will they ever know that they reduced the number of storms?
The number of storms on a yearly basis is anything but consistent.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648339</id>
	<title>Having worked in the weather community...</title>
	<author>joedoc</author>
	<datestamp>1247234040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...for a number of years (though I'm an IT guy, not a meteorologist), I learned enough to know that not only is this doomed to failure, they should already know that it's not scientifically possible.</p><p>How in the name of God are they going to generate the energy needed to cool the water at "greater" ocean depths? The would have to launch a fleet of ships far greater then they can possibly imagine.</p><p>Not only does this appear to be scientifically and logistically improbable, but have they ever considered the issues with screwing with global weather patterns? Stopping hurricanes (or, in reality, stopping their potential capability for damage to humans and land structures) is a noble dream, but every weather even had both positive and negative affects on other weather patterns, events that we actually may want to occur.</p><p>He would be better off taking all the money he'd invest in this silliness and hand it over to people in hurricane-damaged areas so they can rebuild. Or move.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...for a number of years ( though I 'm an IT guy , not a meteorologist ) , I learned enough to know that not only is this doomed to failure , they should already know that it 's not scientifically possible.How in the name of God are they going to generate the energy needed to cool the water at " greater " ocean depths ?
The would have to launch a fleet of ships far greater then they can possibly imagine.Not only does this appear to be scientifically and logistically improbable , but have they ever considered the issues with screwing with global weather patterns ?
Stopping hurricanes ( or , in reality , stopping their potential capability for damage to humans and land structures ) is a noble dream , but every weather even had both positive and negative affects on other weather patterns , events that we actually may want to occur.He would be better off taking all the money he 'd invest in this silliness and hand it over to people in hurricane-damaged areas so they can rebuild .
Or move .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...for a number of years (though I'm an IT guy, not a meteorologist), I learned enough to know that not only is this doomed to failure, they should already know that it's not scientifically possible.How in the name of God are they going to generate the energy needed to cool the water at "greater" ocean depths?
The would have to launch a fleet of ships far greater then they can possibly imagine.Not only does this appear to be scientifically and logistically improbable, but have they ever considered the issues with screwing with global weather patterns?
Stopping hurricanes (or, in reality, stopping their potential capability for damage to humans and land structures) is a noble dream, but every weather even had both positive and negative affects on other weather patterns, events that we actually may want to occur.He would be better off taking all the money he'd invest in this silliness and hand it over to people in hurricane-damaged areas so they can rebuild.
Or move.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28653765</id>
	<title>Re:Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>VirusEqualsVeryYes</author>
	<datestamp>1247257440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you say that the work required moving the cold water to the hot water is necessarily equivalent to that of directly heating the water. What if the water is 1mm away? 10m away? 1000 light years away? The work required for each of these is equivalent? Did you just discover a way to move water 1000 light years minus 1mm for free?</p><p>The problem with your "basic physics" is that work is equivalent only when the outcomes are exactly the same. Think about why heating x liters of water is not the same outcome as raising x liters of water some height.</p><p>Let me offer another example. Suppose that we want to heat 1L of 1-degree-C water to 50 degrees. It just so happens that we could move the 1L of water<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.00001m into thermal contact with a close-by 1L of water kept at 99 degrees. Now, the outcome of heating 1L of water to 50 degrees is the same, but the outcomes of the universe outside of that narrow scope are not identical. Opting for a 40\% (or even far, far less) efficient mechanical pump saves energy over a heat pump heating the water 49 degrees because the work required for the two processes is not equivalent. (And, of course, if<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.00001m is changed to some obscenely large distance, opting for the the heat pump instead would be more efficient.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you say that the work required moving the cold water to the hot water is necessarily equivalent to that of directly heating the water .
What if the water is 1mm away ?
10m away ?
1000 light years away ?
The work required for each of these is equivalent ?
Did you just discover a way to move water 1000 light years minus 1mm for free ? The problem with your " basic physics " is that work is equivalent only when the outcomes are exactly the same .
Think about why heating x liters of water is not the same outcome as raising x liters of water some height.Let me offer another example .
Suppose that we want to heat 1L of 1-degree-C water to 50 degrees .
It just so happens that we could move the 1L of water .00001m into thermal contact with a close-by 1L of water kept at 99 degrees .
Now , the outcome of heating 1L of water to 50 degrees is the same , but the outcomes of the universe outside of that narrow scope are not identical .
Opting for a 40 \ % ( or even far , far less ) efficient mechanical pump saves energy over a heat pump heating the water 49 degrees because the work required for the two processes is not equivalent .
( And , of course , if .00001m is changed to some obscenely large distance , opting for the the heat pump instead would be more efficient .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you say that the work required moving the cold water to the hot water is necessarily equivalent to that of directly heating the water.
What if the water is 1mm away?
10m away?
1000 light years away?
The work required for each of these is equivalent?
Did you just discover a way to move water 1000 light years minus 1mm for free?The problem with your "basic physics" is that work is equivalent only when the outcomes are exactly the same.
Think about why heating x liters of water is not the same outcome as raising x liters of water some height.Let me offer another example.
Suppose that we want to heat 1L of 1-degree-C water to 50 degrees.
It just so happens that we could move the 1L of water .00001m into thermal contact with a close-by 1L of water kept at 99 degrees.
Now, the outcome of heating 1L of water to 50 degrees is the same, but the outcomes of the universe outside of that narrow scope are not identical.
Opting for a 40\% (or even far, far less) efficient mechanical pump saves energy over a heat pump heating the water 49 degrees because the work required for the two processes is not equivalent.
(And, of course, if .00001m is changed to some obscenely large distance, opting for the the heat pump instead would be more efficient.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648153</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1247232780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You will easily figure if the device is working when you see very interesting weather on this page:<br><a href="http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Cupertino" title="wunderground.com">http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Cupertino</a> [wunderground.com]</p><p>Remember Simcity Tornado?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You will easily figure if the device is working when you see very interesting weather on this page : http : //www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast ? query = Cupertino [ wunderground.com ] Remember Simcity Tornado ?
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You will easily figure if the device is working when you see very interesting weather on this page:http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Cupertino [wunderground.com]Remember Simcity Tornado?
;)</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28652441</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>naturemn</author>
	<datestamp>1247252040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Its not really a matter of what impact the hurricane has on the east coast, but what other processes are controlled by water surface temperature in the South Atlantic?  This could change ocean currents, wildlife and weather in Europe, Africa, South America...but hey, we averted another hurricane disaster, right?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its not really a matter of what impact the hurricane has on the east coast , but what other processes are controlled by water surface temperature in the South Atlantic ?
This could change ocean currents , wildlife and weather in Europe , Africa , South America...but hey , we averted another hurricane disaster , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its not really a matter of what impact the hurricane has on the east coast, but what other processes are controlled by water surface temperature in the South Atlantic?
This could change ocean currents, wildlife and weather in Europe, Africa, South America...but hey, we averted another hurricane disaster, right?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28653163</id>
	<title>Re:Anyone who thinks they can change the weather..</title>
	<author>DMUTPeregrine</author>
	<datestamp>1247254920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Changing the weather is easy. Chaos theory tells us that. Predicting the change is the hard part, and controlling what change you want is even harder.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Changing the weather is easy .
Chaos theory tells us that .
Predicting the change is the hard part , and controlling what change you want is even harder .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Changing the weather is easy.
Chaos theory tells us that.
Predicting the change is the hard part, and controlling what change you want is even harder.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648435</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648417</id>
	<title>it's too bad</title>
	<author>jcombel</author>
	<datestamp>1247234520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>if only gates knew there were people obviously much smarter than him posting on slashdot at five am!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>if only gates knew there were people obviously much smarter than him posting on slashdot at five am ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if only gates knew there were people obviously much smarter than him posting on slashdot at five am!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28652937</id>
	<title>He can't make Windows stable...</title>
	<author>Dynamus</author>
	<datestamp>1247254020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... so he now tries... the weather??</htmltext>
<tokenext>... so he now tries... the weather ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... so he now tries... the weather?
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648255</id>
	<title>Uhhh oooh</title>
	<author>azav</author>
	<datestamp>1247233500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>GPF in Rainfall.exe.  Abort, retry or ignore?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>GPF in Rainfall.exe .
Abort , retry or ignore ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GPF in Rainfall.exe.
Abort, retry or ignore?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650375</id>
	<title>The Mad Scientist Stuff is the Point!</title>
	<author>StCredZero</author>
	<datestamp>1247242920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And he will laugh maniacally, when the change in nature's cycles creates huge storms that wipe out entire Europe and half of Africa.</p></div><p>If you've been paying attention to history, weather and climate have huge geopolitical and strategic consequences.  North Atlantic storms stopped both the Spanish Armada and Nazi Germany from invading England.  Weather almost stopped the D-Day invasions.  Japan is still a nation because of such a storm: the Kamikaze.</p><p>Climactic shifts sparked the movements of barbarian tribes and may have contributed to the fall of the Roman Empire, prevented the early Nordic colonization of North America, and paved the way for the Renaissance.</p><p>The ability to prevent or to create a storm would have huge strategic implications.  Nations with the resources to wield this sort of weapon could wreak economic devastation on their enemies and be immune to invasion.  (And save on the huge cost incurred from such storms.)</p><p>I also suspect that global warming is actually desired by some strategic thinkers in the industrialized nations.  (But not all.  Not conspiracy.  Just a part of the oligarchy pushing to exploit coincidence.)  Some of the greatest suffering will be visited on up and coming economic powers (India) while the established ones will be able to cope more easily.  I think this may be part of the reason why China is building the largest river dam system in the world -- to buffer themselves against shifts in water availability.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And he will laugh maniacally , when the change in nature 's cycles creates huge storms that wipe out entire Europe and half of Africa.If you 've been paying attention to history , weather and climate have huge geopolitical and strategic consequences .
North Atlantic storms stopped both the Spanish Armada and Nazi Germany from invading England .
Weather almost stopped the D-Day invasions .
Japan is still a nation because of such a storm : the Kamikaze.Climactic shifts sparked the movements of barbarian tribes and may have contributed to the fall of the Roman Empire , prevented the early Nordic colonization of North America , and paved the way for the Renaissance.The ability to prevent or to create a storm would have huge strategic implications .
Nations with the resources to wield this sort of weapon could wreak economic devastation on their enemies and be immune to invasion .
( And save on the huge cost incurred from such storms .
) I also suspect that global warming is actually desired by some strategic thinkers in the industrialized nations .
( But not all .
Not conspiracy .
Just a part of the oligarchy pushing to exploit coincidence .
) Some of the greatest suffering will be visited on up and coming economic powers ( India ) while the established ones will be able to cope more easily .
I think this may be part of the reason why China is building the largest river dam system in the world -- to buffer themselves against shifts in water availability .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And he will laugh maniacally, when the change in nature's cycles creates huge storms that wipe out entire Europe and half of Africa.If you've been paying attention to history, weather and climate have huge geopolitical and strategic consequences.
North Atlantic storms stopped both the Spanish Armada and Nazi Germany from invading England.
Weather almost stopped the D-Day invasions.
Japan is still a nation because of such a storm: the Kamikaze.Climactic shifts sparked the movements of barbarian tribes and may have contributed to the fall of the Roman Empire, prevented the early Nordic colonization of North America, and paved the way for the Renaissance.The ability to prevent or to create a storm would have huge strategic implications.
Nations with the resources to wield this sort of weapon could wreak economic devastation on their enemies and be immune to invasion.
(And save on the huge cost incurred from such storms.
)I also suspect that global warming is actually desired by some strategic thinkers in the industrialized nations.
(But not all.
Not conspiracy.
Just a part of the oligarchy pushing to exploit coincidence.
)  Some of the greatest suffering will be visited on up and coming economic powers (India) while the established ones will be able to cope more easily.
I think this may be part of the reason why China is building the largest river dam system in the world -- to buffer themselves against shifts in water availability.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648627</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647967</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247231220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What the hell?  Why doesn't anybody believe him?  You don't see any tigers around here, do you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What the hell ?
Why does n't anybody believe him ?
You do n't see any tigers around here , do you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the hell?
Why doesn't anybody believe him?
You don't see any tigers around here, do you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647933</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648017</id>
	<title>can it work?</title>
	<author>martas</author>
	<datestamp>1247231640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I know people understand hurricanes decently well, and clearly by taking/giving enough energy (heat) at the right locations in a hurricane you could theoretically stop it. But my question is - could this actually work? Or would it take so much energy that it's practically impossible with today's (or tomorrow's, etc) technology?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know people understand hurricanes decently well , and clearly by taking/giving enough energy ( heat ) at the right locations in a hurricane you could theoretically stop it .
But my question is - could this actually work ?
Or would it take so much energy that it 's practically impossible with today 's ( or tomorrow 's , etc ) technology ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know people understand hurricanes decently well, and clearly by taking/giving enough energy (heat) at the right locations in a hurricane you could theoretically stop it.
But my question is - could this actually work?
Or would it take so much energy that it's practically impossible with today's (or tomorrow's, etc) technology?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28654859</id>
	<title>Re:Error in logic</title>
	<author>tomhudson</author>
	<datestamp>1247219760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
It's still a lousy idea.  Stop a hurricane, you reduce the amount of cloud cover, which results in -guess what - warmer surface waters, and even more intense hurricanes.
</p><p>
Also, to pump a significant amount of water, you'd have have the ships sitting in a tropical storm to begin with. Otherwise, you've better off just towing a few iceberds from the arctic - good luck with THAT.  This might work in your bathtub, but, like Windows, it doesn't scale, is pretty shitty in real life, and it's not even original.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's still a lousy idea .
Stop a hurricane , you reduce the amount of cloud cover , which results in -guess what - warmer surface waters , and even more intense hurricanes .
Also , to pump a significant amount of water , you 'd have have the ships sitting in a tropical storm to begin with .
Otherwise , you 've better off just towing a few iceberds from the arctic - good luck with THAT .
This might work in your bathtub , but , like Windows , it does n't scale , is pretty shitty in real life , and it 's not even original .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
It's still a lousy idea.
Stop a hurricane, you reduce the amount of cloud cover, which results in -guess what - warmer surface waters, and even more intense hurricanes.
Also, to pump a significant amount of water, you'd have have the ships sitting in a tropical storm to begin with.
Otherwise, you've better off just towing a few iceberds from the arctic - good luck with THAT.
This might work in your bathtub, but, like Windows, it doesn't scale, is pretty shitty in real life, and it's not even original.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648427</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28670917</id>
	<title>Re:Next up!</title>
	<author>Virtual\_Raider</author>
	<datestamp>1247403000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And when will people realize that just because something is "natural" doesn't make it the ideal solution. Using technology to extend human lifespan past 30 has resulted in a cataclysm of course?</p></div><p>Of sorts, yes. Six Thousand and Five Hundred Million people (and counting) have spread over most of the face of the Earth, and our activities have created great harm to delicately balanced and fragile ecosystems, and they seem to be now harming more rugged and stable ecosystems. No agenda, just a statement of fact. Longevity has allowed us to grow ever larger in numbers and we haven't been "in balance with nature" as the rest of the animal kingdom is for a while. How many species are going extinct a day because of deforestation, overexploitation, overfishing, pollution, etc, etc...?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And when will people realize that just because something is " natural " does n't make it the ideal solution .
Using technology to extend human lifespan past 30 has resulted in a cataclysm of course ? Of sorts , yes .
Six Thousand and Five Hundred Million people ( and counting ) have spread over most of the face of the Earth , and our activities have created great harm to delicately balanced and fragile ecosystems , and they seem to be now harming more rugged and stable ecosystems .
No agenda , just a statement of fact .
Longevity has allowed us to grow ever larger in numbers and we have n't been " in balance with nature " as the rest of the animal kingdom is for a while .
How many species are going extinct a day because of deforestation , overexploitation , overfishing , pollution , etc , etc... ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And when will people realize that just because something is "natural" doesn't make it the ideal solution.
Using technology to extend human lifespan past 30 has resulted in a cataclysm of course?Of sorts, yes.
Six Thousand and Five Hundred Million people (and counting) have spread over most of the face of the Earth, and our activities have created great harm to delicately balanced and fragile ecosystems, and they seem to be now harming more rugged and stable ecosystems.
No agenda, just a statement of fact.
Longevity has allowed us to grow ever larger in numbers and we haven't been "in balance with nature" as the rest of the animal kingdom is for a while.
How many species are going extinct a day because of deforestation, overexploitation, overfishing, pollution, etc, etc...?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649807</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28656207</id>
	<title>Atmospheric Vortex Engine</title>
	<author>Baldrson</author>
	<datestamp>1247229720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They should just set up a bunch of <a href="http://vortexengine.ca/Physical\_Models\_LM-6.shtml" title="vortexengine.ca">atmospheric vortex engines</a> [vortexengine.ca] and sell the electricity.
<p>
If they can't figure out how to economically control the  Kelvin-Helmholtz instability that Denis Bonnelle has been so worried about, they can give me a call.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They should just set up a bunch of atmospheric vortex engines [ vortexengine.ca ] and sell the electricity .
If they ca n't figure out how to economically control the Kelvin-Helmholtz instability that Denis Bonnelle has been so worried about , they can give me a call .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They should just set up a bunch of atmospheric vortex engines [vortexengine.ca] and sell the electricity.
If they can't figure out how to economically control the  Kelvin-Helmholtz instability that Denis Bonnelle has been so worried about, they can give me a call.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648891</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247237100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>its not to stop the hurricane its to lower the speed by making slightly cooler water.   Im more worried about bottom fish, not all fish like the warm water. there's a reason they are on the bottom</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>its not to stop the hurricane its to lower the speed by making slightly cooler water .
Im more worried about bottom fish , not all fish like the warm water .
there 's a reason they are on the bottom</tokentext>
<sentencetext>its not to stop the hurricane its to lower the speed by making slightly cooler water.
Im more worried about bottom fish, not all fish like the warm water.
there's a reason they are on the bottom</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647933</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648481</id>
	<title>Re:Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>Xocet\_00</author>
	<datestamp>1247234880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"in fact is MORE LIKELY to change if you start cooling water ahead of it"<br> <br>

Well, maybe we can't break up a storm, but diverting it away from a population center still sounds like a plus to me.<br> <br>
I do tend to agree that the number involved don't look particularly workable though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" in fact is MORE LIKELY to change if you start cooling water ahead of it " Well , maybe we ca n't break up a storm , but diverting it away from a population center still sounds like a plus to me .
I do tend to agree that the number involved do n't look particularly workable though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"in fact is MORE LIKELY to change if you start cooling water ahead of it" 

Well, maybe we can't break up a storm, but diverting it away from a population center still sounds like a plus to me.
I do tend to agree that the number involved don't look particularly workable though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648155</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648689</id>
	<title>Re:Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>wexsessa</author>
	<datestamp>1247236200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Many years ago, in a Usenet discussion, I was musing on this topic. I pointed out that even mankind's most powerful tools, e.g. a nuclear explosion, were puny compared to the energy in a hurricane. (Of course some twit chastised me for suggesting we drop nuclear bombs on hurricanes).

I suggested that rather than trying to overpower a hurricane, we might find a way to turn its energy against itself, rather like in some of the martial arts, where a small opponent overcomes a much larger one. But nobody suggested how that might be achieved.

A few years ago I heard of another approach, which is to cover the ocean with a thin film of (biodegradable) oil, which would greatly reduce the evaporation of water vapour (&amp; energy) from the surface. The suggested way to achieve this was to soak straw bales with the oil and drop them from aircraft. I have not heard whether this has been tried yet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Many years ago , in a Usenet discussion , I was musing on this topic .
I pointed out that even mankind 's most powerful tools , e.g .
a nuclear explosion , were puny compared to the energy in a hurricane .
( Of course some twit chastised me for suggesting we drop nuclear bombs on hurricanes ) .
I suggested that rather than trying to overpower a hurricane , we might find a way to turn its energy against itself , rather like in some of the martial arts , where a small opponent overcomes a much larger one .
But nobody suggested how that might be achieved .
A few years ago I heard of another approach , which is to cover the ocean with a thin film of ( biodegradable ) oil , which would greatly reduce the evaporation of water vapour ( &amp; energy ) from the surface .
The suggested way to achieve this was to soak straw bales with the oil and drop them from aircraft .
I have not heard whether this has been tried yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many years ago, in a Usenet discussion, I was musing on this topic.
I pointed out that even mankind's most powerful tools, e.g.
a nuclear explosion, were puny compared to the energy in a hurricane.
(Of course some twit chastised me for suggesting we drop nuclear bombs on hurricanes).
I suggested that rather than trying to overpower a hurricane, we might find a way to turn its energy against itself, rather like in some of the martial arts, where a small opponent overcomes a much larger one.
But nobody suggested how that might be achieved.
A few years ago I heard of another approach, which is to cover the ocean with a thin film of (biodegradable) oil, which would greatly reduce the evaporation of water vapour (&amp; energy) from the surface.
The suggested way to achieve this was to soak straw bales with the oil and drop them from aircraft.
I have not heard whether this has been tried yet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648155</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648365</id>
	<title>What the heck are we doing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247234280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First, we're fighting "climate change" like the war on drugs...  Nothing will change as we don't have the power to.   Next, we're fighting storms by water temperature into the ocean.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...And we think scientists saying the world was flat was insane.  The future is going to be getting a good chuckle out of this generation's "science".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First , we 're fighting " climate change " like the war on drugs... Nothing will change as we do n't have the power to .
Next , we 're fighting storms by water temperature into the ocean .
...And we think scientists saying the world was flat was insane .
The future is going to be getting a good chuckle out of this generation 's " science " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First, we're fighting "climate change" like the war on drugs...  Nothing will change as we don't have the power to.
Next, we're fighting storms by water temperature into the ocean.
...And we think scientists saying the world was flat was insane.
The future is going to be getting a good chuckle out of this generation's "science".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648197</id>
	<title>Two Words</title>
	<author>kjhambrick</author>
	<datestamp>1247233080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>God Complex</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>God Complex</tokentext>
<sentencetext>God Complex</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28652969</id>
	<title>Given the nature of weather....</title>
	<author>KiwiCanuck</author>
	<datestamp>1247254080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd say Bill has owned it for years!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd say Bill has owned it for years !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd say Bill has owned it for years!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648351</id>
	<title>Not a good idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247234040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't hurricanes serve as a major way for Mother Nature to blow off heat into space?</p><p>And Gates not only wants to prevent this, but instead to use this heat to warm up the deeper parts of the ocean?</p><p>It seems to me that this -- if it works -- could cause as many problems as it solves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't hurricanes serve as a major way for Mother Nature to blow off heat into space ? And Gates not only wants to prevent this , but instead to use this heat to warm up the deeper parts of the ocean ? It seems to me that this -- if it works -- could cause as many problems as it solves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't hurricanes serve as a major way for Mother Nature to blow off heat into space?And Gates not only wants to prevent this, but instead to use this heat to warm up the deeper parts of the ocean?It seems to me that this -- if it works -- could cause as many problems as it solves.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650553</id>
	<title>The 80's called,</title>
	<author>kheldan</author>
	<datestamp>1247243640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>..and wants their Star Wars program back. Is there <i>any</i> chance that something like this would work, or has Gates finally cracked?</htmltext>
<tokenext>..and wants their Star Wars program back .
Is there any chance that something like this would work , or has Gates finally cracked ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..and wants their Star Wars program back.
Is there any chance that something like this would work, or has Gates finally cracked?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649089</id>
	<title>Very Very Bad Idea!!!!</title>
	<author>iCantSpell</author>
	<datestamp>1247237940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hurricanes move the energy pressure from the equator and dissipates the energy accross the north and south caps of the earth. If they were to go threw with this, it would get alot hotter alot faster and the radiant pressure builds could have unforeseen consequences.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hurricanes move the energy pressure from the equator and dissipates the energy accross the north and south caps of the earth .
If they were to go threw with this , it would get alot hotter alot faster and the radiant pressure builds could have unforeseen consequences .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hurricanes move the energy pressure from the equator and dissipates the energy accross the north and south caps of the earth.
If they were to go threw with this, it would get alot hotter alot faster and the radiant pressure builds could have unforeseen consequences.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28652347</id>
	<title>Wow</title>
	<author>Lord Kano</author>
	<datestamp>1247251740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here we have the Obama administration reinforcing the ban on human cloning, but no one seems to care about an attempt to control the weather?</p><p>We're supposed to reduce carbon emissions because we don't know what effect it'll have on the environment, but fucking with the weather is just peachy keen?</p><p>LK</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here we have the Obama administration reinforcing the ban on human cloning , but no one seems to care about an attempt to control the weather ? We 're supposed to reduce carbon emissions because we do n't know what effect it 'll have on the environment , but fucking with the weather is just peachy keen ? LK</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here we have the Obama administration reinforcing the ban on human cloning, but no one seems to care about an attempt to control the weather?We're supposed to reduce carbon emissions because we don't know what effect it'll have on the environment, but fucking with the weather is just peachy keen?LK</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647929</id>
	<title>So...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247230980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Where do you want (the wind) to go today?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Where do you want ( the wind ) to go today ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Where do you want (the wind) to go today?
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648101</id>
	<title>So in other words..</title>
	<author>arndawg</author>
	<datestamp>1247232360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bill Gates have made something that CRASHES the storms? I have very high hopes that this works. I just hope BSoD is not literal in this context.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bill Gates have made something that CRASHES the storms ?
I have very high hopes that this works .
I just hope BSoD is not literal in this context .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bill Gates have made something that CRASHES the storms?
I have very high hopes that this works.
I just hope BSoD is not literal in this context.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649243</id>
	<title>Re:So...</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1247238600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft seems to have taken "cloud computing" a bit too literal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft seems to have taken " cloud computing " a bit too literal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft seems to have taken "cloud computing" a bit too literal.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647929</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648673</id>
	<title>Re:Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>dkleinsc</author>
	<datestamp>1247236080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Now exactly how many TRILLIONS of gallons of water does Mr. Gates wish to cool by one degree? Assuming all you want to cool is the first 1 meter of depth of a 1 km x 1km patch of water contains 1 billion litres of water (around 264 million gallons). This would require at least 2.1 * 10^12 Joules of energy. And remember you have to deliver it in a limited time, in the path of the storm (which can change at any time - in fact is MORE LIKELY to change if you start cooling water ahead of it)? And let's not forget during the daytime you have to also account for sunlight, which will make your cooling process less efficient.</p></div><p>That's just an implementation detail. Right now we're talking about high-level design.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now exactly how many TRILLIONS of gallons of water does Mr. Gates wish to cool by one degree ?
Assuming all you want to cool is the first 1 meter of depth of a 1 km x 1km patch of water contains 1 billion litres of water ( around 264 million gallons ) .
This would require at least 2.1 * 10 ^ 12 Joules of energy .
And remember you have to deliver it in a limited time , in the path of the storm ( which can change at any time - in fact is MORE LIKELY to change if you start cooling water ahead of it ) ?
And let 's not forget during the daytime you have to also account for sunlight , which will make your cooling process less efficient.That 's just an implementation detail .
Right now we 're talking about high-level design .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now exactly how many TRILLIONS of gallons of water does Mr. Gates wish to cool by one degree?
Assuming all you want to cool is the first 1 meter of depth of a 1 km x 1km patch of water contains 1 billion litres of water (around 264 million gallons).
This would require at least 2.1 * 10^12 Joules of energy.
And remember you have to deliver it in a limited time, in the path of the storm (which can change at any time - in fact is MORE LIKELY to change if you start cooling water ahead of it)?
And let's not forget during the daytime you have to also account for sunlight, which will make your cooling process less efficient.That's just an implementation detail.
Right now we're talking about high-level design.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648155</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28651355</id>
	<title>Re:Easy</title>
	<author>Fatalv</author>
	<datestamp>1247247120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And we have plenty of Windows ME disk laying around to make rafts out of!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>And we have plenty of Windows ME disk laying around to make rafts out of !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And we have plenty of Windows ME disk laying around to make rafts out of!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648169</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648591</id>
	<title>Re:How will they know..</title>
	<author>OakDragon</author>
	<datestamp>1247235480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>They will hire the same guys that count how many jobs Barack Obama has saved!</htmltext>
<tokenext>They will hire the same guys that count how many jobs Barack Obama has saved !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They will hire the same guys that count how many jobs Barack Obama has saved!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647933</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28659761</id>
	<title>Bill Gates is a Richard Pryor fan</title>
	<author>Vexar</author>
	<datestamp>1247325600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Remember all the crackpots in Brewster's Millions?  I think Bill is searching for a way to spend his billions frivolously, by changing the temperature of the earth's atmosphere.  He may also hate Al Gore's insinuation that humans were responsible (not sun spots) for any measurable (note the NASA disclaimer about their forecast) human impact on the earth's climate, enough to actually do it in the first place.<p>
Bill Gates needs to be stopped.  I can just see the sky, covered with white letters... Global Blue Screen of Death.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Remember all the crackpots in Brewster 's Millions ?
I think Bill is searching for a way to spend his billions frivolously , by changing the temperature of the earth 's atmosphere .
He may also hate Al Gore 's insinuation that humans were responsible ( not sun spots ) for any measurable ( note the NASA disclaimer about their forecast ) human impact on the earth 's climate , enough to actually do it in the first place .
Bill Gates needs to be stopped .
I can just see the sky , covered with white letters... Global Blue Screen of Death .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remember all the crackpots in Brewster's Millions?
I think Bill is searching for a way to spend his billions frivolously, by changing the temperature of the earth's atmosphere.
He may also hate Al Gore's insinuation that humans were responsible (not sun spots) for any measurable (note the NASA disclaimer about their forecast) human impact on the earth's climate, enough to actually do it in the first place.
Bill Gates needs to be stopped.
I can just see the sky, covered with white letters... Global Blue Screen of Death.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648789</id>
	<title>Re:Truly Gates now thinks he is God</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247236740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It would probably be an easier engineering feat to build a giant solar screen and put it in space to reduce the amount of sunlight heating up hurricane forming waters.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It would probably be an easier engineering feat to build a giant solar screen and put it in space to reduce the amount of sunlight heating up hurricane forming waters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would probably be an easier engineering feat to build a giant solar screen and put it in space to reduce the amount of sunlight heating up hurricane forming waters.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648155</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649445</id>
	<title>easy answer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247239380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>no</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>no</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649719</id>
	<title>New in Windows 7 - Bill's personal copy</title>
	<author>MrKaos</author>
	<datestamp>1247240460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a new function on Bill's personal edition of Windows 7. The new key mapped in Windows 7 is the ctrl + 'Weather' key, it's between the 'Launch ICBM' key and 'Crash world economy' key.</p><p>
Apparently the rc for Bill's copy swapped the 'Crash World economy' key with the 'Weather' key last year some time...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a new function on Bill 's personal edition of Windows 7 .
The new key mapped in Windows 7 is the ctrl + 'Weather ' key , it 's between the 'Launch ICBM ' key and 'Crash world economy ' key .
Apparently the rc for Bill 's copy swapped the 'Crash World economy ' key with the 'Weather ' key last year some time.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a new function on Bill's personal edition of Windows 7.
The new key mapped in Windows 7 is the ctrl + 'Weather' key, it's between the 'Launch ICBM' key and 'Crash world economy' key.
Apparently the rc for Bill's copy swapped the 'Crash World economy' key with the 'Weather' key last year some time...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28652025</id>
	<title>Re:Oblig. Dennis Miller quote</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247250600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>"No Mr. Bond - I expect them to &lt;maniacal&gt;upgrade!&lt;/maniacal&gt;"<br><br>(oblig. other half of the joke)</htmltext>
<tokenext>" No Mr. Bond - I expect them to upgrade ! " ( oblig .
other half of the joke )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"No Mr. Bond - I expect them to upgrade!"(oblig.
other half of the joke)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28647969</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28653145</id>
	<title>Re:Next up!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247254860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what's your proof of this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what 's your proof of this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what's your proof of this?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648627</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648693</id>
	<title>Re:Having worked in the weather community...</title>
	<author>Lord Ender</author>
	<datestamp>1247236260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You work on the helpdesk for the weather channel? Obviously you know more about this than the people who spent large amounts of time and money investigating the project.</p><p>Now if only I can find someone who runs cables at a hospital to tell me if I should continue to fund this cancer research project...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You work on the helpdesk for the weather channel ?
Obviously you know more about this than the people who spent large amounts of time and money investigating the project.Now if only I can find someone who runs cables at a hospital to tell me if I should continue to fund this cancer research project.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You work on the helpdesk for the weather channel?
Obviously you know more about this than the people who spent large amounts of time and money investigating the project.Now if only I can find someone who runs cables at a hospital to tell me if I should continue to fund this cancer research project...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648339</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28650097</id>
	<title>Re:Having worked in the weather community...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247241960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>yeah, you don't know what you are talking about. Their proposal is not "scientifically" impossible, god has nothing to do with it, and the fleet of ships is not greater than I can imagine. Please stop using the word scientific in a context that you don't understand. The rest of your blathering is a bit naive and inaccurate, but I will leave stop my critique here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yeah , you do n't know what you are talking about .
Their proposal is not " scientifically " impossible , god has nothing to do with it , and the fleet of ships is not greater than I can imagine .
Please stop using the word scientific in a context that you do n't understand .
The rest of your blathering is a bit naive and inaccurate , but I will leave stop my critique here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yeah, you don't know what you are talking about.
Their proposal is not "scientifically" impossible, god has nothing to do with it, and the fleet of ships is not greater than I can imagine.
Please stop using the word scientific in a context that you don't understand.
The rest of your blathering is a bit naive and inaccurate, but I will leave stop my critique here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648339</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28648145</id>
	<title>Clip</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247232720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It looks like you are trying to suppress a hurricane. Would you like some help with that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks like you are trying to suppress a hurricane .
Would you like some help with that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks like you are trying to suppress a hurricane.
Would you like some help with that?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28649353</id>
	<title>Bad summary</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1247239020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Hey, a guy can only play so much golf in retirement.</p></div><p>No hurricanes = more time to play around the gulf coast. I think this is entirely motivated by him wanting to play golf.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , a guy can only play so much golf in retirement.No hurricanes = more time to play around the gulf coast .
I think this is entirely motivated by him wanting to play golf .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, a guy can only play so much golf in retirement.No hurricanes = more time to play around the gulf coast.
I think this is entirely motivated by him wanting to play golf.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_10_0522210.28656765</id>
	<title>You mean...</title>
	<author>exnuke</author>
	<datestamp>1247234820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>the floods in Cedar Rapids, IA?</htmltext>
<tokenext>the floods in Cedar Rapids , IA ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the floods in Cedar Rapids, IA?</sentencetext>
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