<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_07_07_1925254</id>
	<title>Is IE Usage Share Collapsing?</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1246957380000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://slashdot.org/~je+ne+sais+quoi/" rel="nofollow">je ne sais quoi</a> writes <i>"Net Applications normally releases its statistics for <a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8">browser and operating system usage share</a> on the first of every month. This month, however, the data has not shown up &mdash; only a cryptic message stating they are reviewing the data for <a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/status.aspx">inexplicable statistical variations</a> and that it will be available soon. Larry Dignan at ZDNet has a <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=20674">blog post that might explain</a> what is happening: Statcounter has released some data that shows a <a href="http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-na-daily-20080701-20090707">precipitous drop in IE browser use</a> in North America, to the benefit of Firefox, Safari, and Chrome. At the end of May, StatCounter shows IE usage share (for versions 6, 7, and 8 combined) at around 64\%; at the beginning of June it is now about 56\% &mdash; an astounding 8\% drop in one month. We should keep in mind the difficulties in estimating browser usage share: this could very well be a change in how browsers report themselves, or some other statistical anomaly. So it will probably be healthy to remain skeptical until trend this is confirmed by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage\_share\_of\_web\_browsers">other organizations</a>. Have any of you seen drops in IE usage share for Web-sites you administer?"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>je ne sais quoi writes " Net Applications normally releases its statistics for browser and operating system usage share on the first of every month .
This month , however , the data has not shown up    only a cryptic message stating they are reviewing the data for inexplicable statistical variations and that it will be available soon .
Larry Dignan at ZDNet has a blog post that might explain what is happening : Statcounter has released some data that shows a precipitous drop in IE browser use in North America , to the benefit of Firefox , Safari , and Chrome .
At the end of May , StatCounter shows IE usage share ( for versions 6 , 7 , and 8 combined ) at around 64 \ % ; at the beginning of June it is now about 56 \ %    an astounding 8 \ % drop in one month .
We should keep in mind the difficulties in estimating browser usage share : this could very well be a change in how browsers report themselves , or some other statistical anomaly .
So it will probably be healthy to remain skeptical until trend this is confirmed by other organizations .
Have any of you seen drops in IE usage share for Web-sites you administer ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>je ne sais quoi writes "Net Applications normally releases its statistics for browser and operating system usage share on the first of every month.
This month, however, the data has not shown up — only a cryptic message stating they are reviewing the data for inexplicable statistical variations and that it will be available soon.
Larry Dignan at ZDNet has a blog post that might explain what is happening: Statcounter has released some data that shows a precipitous drop in IE browser use in North America, to the benefit of Firefox, Safari, and Chrome.
At the end of May, StatCounter shows IE usage share (for versions 6, 7, and 8 combined) at around 64\%; at the beginning of June it is now about 56\% — an astounding 8\% drop in one month.
We should keep in mind the difficulties in estimating browser usage share: this could very well be a change in how browsers report themselves, or some other statistical anomaly.
So it will probably be healthy to remain skeptical until trend this is confirmed by other organizations.
Have any of you seen drops in IE usage share for Web-sites you administer?
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</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613975</id>
	<title>Segment and conquer</title>
	<author>MadFarmAnimalz</author>
	<datestamp>1246961160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>More interestingly, you can really see that the new key markets strategy the Spread Firefox campaign has kicked off is <a href="http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser\_version-an-daily-20080701-20090707-bar" title="statcounter.com">really paying off</a> [statcounter.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>More interestingly , you can really see that the new key markets strategy the Spread Firefox campaign has kicked off is really paying off [ statcounter.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More interestingly, you can really see that the new key markets strategy the Spread Firefox campaign has kicked off is really paying off [statcounter.com].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615395</id>
	<title>Re:Proliferation of mobile browsers...</title>
	<author>Kamokazi</author>
	<datestamp>1246967760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree moblie browsers are becoming much more significant, but a 6\% drop in a month is substantial.</p><p>I am wondering if maybe it has to do with kids being out of school, and them being more likely to use other browsers.  I would also like to see the specific numbers on Chrome, as Google seems to be advertising for it more lately.  Another thing is maybe IE8 might be causing issues with browser detection or something goofy like that...does the new privacy mode block browser strings?</p><p>I just have a hard time believing 6\% of internet users suddenly decided to install something else.  My money's on the kids out of school explanation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree moblie browsers are becoming much more significant , but a 6 \ % drop in a month is substantial.I am wondering if maybe it has to do with kids being out of school , and them being more likely to use other browsers .
I would also like to see the specific numbers on Chrome , as Google seems to be advertising for it more lately .
Another thing is maybe IE8 might be causing issues with browser detection or something goofy like that...does the new privacy mode block browser strings ? I just have a hard time believing 6 \ % of internet users suddenly decided to install something else .
My money 's on the kids out of school explanation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree moblie browsers are becoming much more significant, but a 6\% drop in a month is substantial.I am wondering if maybe it has to do with kids being out of school, and them being more likely to use other browsers.
I would also like to see the specific numbers on Chrome, as Google seems to be advertising for it more lately.
Another thing is maybe IE8 might be causing issues with browser detection or something goofy like that...does the new privacy mode block browser strings?I just have a hard time believing 6\% of internet users suddenly decided to install something else.
My money's on the kids out of school explanation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613961</id>
	<title>It was to be expected</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246961100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It always takes a while to educate the whole population with regards to technical stuff, after a while, it becomes public knowledge although<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)))</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It always takes a while to educate the whole population with regards to technical stuff , after a while , it becomes public knowledge although ; - ) ) )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It always takes a while to educate the whole population with regards to technical stuff, after a while, it becomes public knowledge although ;-)))</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615313</id>
	<title>Re:IE8 likely to blame</title>
	<author>CAIMLAS</author>
	<datestamp>1246967280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd argue there's a problem with IE7 and 8 in general. I've seen a slight bump in the number of infected IE7 and IE8 malware infections lately; often, the infection isn't systemic, and can be avoided by not using IE (because using IE is impossible due to brokenness). Most clients will opt for using Firefox over having to have their whole system reinstalled.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd argue there 's a problem with IE7 and 8 in general .
I 've seen a slight bump in the number of infected IE7 and IE8 malware infections lately ; often , the infection is n't systemic , and can be avoided by not using IE ( because using IE is impossible due to brokenness ) .
Most clients will opt for using Firefox over having to have their whole system reinstalled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd argue there's a problem with IE7 and 8 in general.
I've seen a slight bump in the number of infected IE7 and IE8 malware infections lately; often, the infection isn't systemic, and can be avoided by not using IE (because using IE is impossible due to brokenness).
Most clients will opt for using Firefox over having to have their whole system reinstalled.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614109</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615221</id>
	<title>Re:typo in summary</title>
	<author>ozbird</author>
	<datestamp>1246966740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And "Firerox" - or is that Debian's latest branding for Firefox?</htmltext>
<tokenext>And " Firerox " - or is that Debian 's latest branding for Firefox ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And "Firerox" - or is that Debian's latest branding for Firefox?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613949</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614135</id>
	<title>1\% maybe...</title>
	<author>mwhahaha</author>
	<datestamp>1246961640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the two sites I have access to for this info IE dropped about 1\% for May vs June.  One site (~19M visitors a month) it was 57.91\% vs 56.64\%.  The other (~132M visitors) it was 60.17\% vs 59.40\%.  I always question these sort of numbers because browser usage is very closely tied with demographics, and I wonder just what sites are they using to get them...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the two sites I have access to for this info IE dropped about 1 \ % for May vs June .
One site ( ~ 19M visitors a month ) it was 57.91 \ % vs 56.64 \ % .
The other ( ~ 132M visitors ) it was 60.17 \ % vs 59.40 \ % .
I always question these sort of numbers because browser usage is very closely tied with demographics , and I wonder just what sites are they using to get them.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the two sites I have access to for this info IE dropped about 1\% for May vs June.
One site (~19M visitors a month) it was 57.91\% vs 56.64\%.
The other (~132M visitors) it was 60.17\% vs 59.40\%.
I always question these sort of numbers because browser usage is very closely tied with demographics, and I wonder just what sites are they using to get them...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616847</id>
	<title>Re:Slashdot browser shares??</title>
	<author>salesgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1246978560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>These numbers are <b>faked</b>. If your stats were accurate exactly 11.7\% would be showing Emacs/w3m. Of course, you cold just be a jealous vi user who has no web browser or Rogue client built in to your text editor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These numbers are faked .
If your stats were accurate exactly 11.7 \ % would be showing Emacs/w3m .
Of course , you cold just be a jealous vi user who has no web browser or Rogue client built in to your text editor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These numbers are faked.
If your stats were accurate exactly 11.7\% would be showing Emacs/w3m.
Of course, you cold just be a jealous vi user who has no web browser or Rogue client built in to your text editor.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614409</id>
	<title>Is this New York Post for nerds?</title>
	<author>brasselv</author>
	<datestamp>1246962780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not on MS payroll, but honestly, is this article worth any attention?</p><p>I hope FF gets 99\% of the market soon, but this type of baseless speculation certainly does not help.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not on MS payroll , but honestly , is this article worth any attention ? I hope FF gets 99 \ % of the market soon , but this type of baseless speculation certainly does not help .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not on MS payroll, but honestly, is this article worth any attention?I hope FF gets 99\% of the market soon, but this type of baseless speculation certainly does not help.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614235</id>
	<title>JavaScript AI to the rescue for Internet Explorer!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246962060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <a href="http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/Mind.html" title="scn.org" rel="nofollow">Artificial Intelligence</a> [scn.org] created expressly for MicroSoft Internet Explorer (MSIE) will save the day (but not save the Planet Earth from rapacious HomoSapiens forebears of Machine Intelligence).</p><p> <a href="http://code.google.com/p/mindforth/wiki/JavaScript" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">JavaScript</a> [google.com] for artificial intelligence lets the True AI Mind come alive in the IE browser.</p><p> <a href="http://code.google.com/p/mindforth" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">Artificial intelligence in Forth and JavaScript</a> [google.com] encourages a continuing high market share for Internet Explorer (IE).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Artificial Intelligence [ scn.org ] created expressly for MicroSoft Internet Explorer ( MSIE ) will save the day ( but not save the Planet Earth from rapacious HomoSapiens forebears of Machine Intelligence ) .
JavaScript [ google.com ] for artificial intelligence lets the True AI Mind come alive in the IE browser .
Artificial intelligence in Forth and JavaScript [ google.com ] encourages a continuing high market share for Internet Explorer ( IE ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Artificial Intelligence [scn.org] created expressly for MicroSoft Internet Explorer (MSIE) will save the day (but not save the Planet Earth from rapacious HomoSapiens forebears of Machine Intelligence).
JavaScript [google.com] for artificial intelligence lets the True AI Mind come alive in the IE browser.
Artificial intelligence in Forth and JavaScript [google.com] encourages a continuing high market share for Internet Explorer (IE).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615241</id>
	<title>Re:Slashdot browser shares??</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1246966860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Internet Explorer: 0.37\%<br>
Firefox: 13.45\%<br>
Safari: 4.23\%<br>
Chrome: 6.97\%<br>
Lynx: 22.43\%<br>
Self-created web browser: 23.12\%<br>
No browser - reading HTML directly: 14.22\%<br>
No browser - interpreting modem signals directly: 15.21\%</htmltext>
<tokenext>Internet Explorer : 0.37 \ % Firefox : 13.45 \ % Safari : 4.23 \ % Chrome : 6.97 \ % Lynx : 22.43 \ % Self-created web browser : 23.12 \ % No browser - reading HTML directly : 14.22 \ % No browser - interpreting modem signals directly : 15.21 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Internet Explorer: 0.37\%
Firefox: 13.45\%
Safari: 4.23\%
Chrome: 6.97\%
Lynx: 22.43\%
Self-created web browser: 23.12\%
No browser - reading HTML directly: 14.22\%
No browser - interpreting modem signals directly: 15.21\%</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614663</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614221</id>
	<title>Re:Not true</title>
	<author>anonymousNR</author>
	<datestamp>1246961940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>don't click parent's link</htmltext>
<tokenext>do n't click parent 's link</tokentext>
<sentencetext>don't click parent's link</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614083</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615863</id>
	<title>Re:It's the iPhOnE!</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1246970640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I saw iPhone browser having 3\% share at my own sites, I said ''respect'' and nothing else. The other stealth giant is Opera Mini (J2ME) which does play a lot of pragmatic games to fool sites as mobile user isn't really up to some ''I will show my browser and you will serve me'' kind of thing. It is standards compliant too, just like Webkit.</p><p>Anyway, all my sites are W3C standards compliant and it is up to browser to show it fine. So far, good even with IE. So I don't really care about these ''stats'' news. MS already made Windows  and lots of third party apps impossible to run without their html rendering framework. They won ages ago. The only real big threat to that is webkit right now. It can do what MSHTML can do, can even fit to Symbian S60 entry level phones and performance king now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I saw iPhone browser having 3 \ % share at my own sites , I said ''respect' ' and nothing else .
The other stealth giant is Opera Mini ( J2ME ) which does play a lot of pragmatic games to fool sites as mobile user is n't really up to some ''I will show my browser and you will serve me' ' kind of thing .
It is standards compliant too , just like Webkit.Anyway , all my sites are W3C standards compliant and it is up to browser to show it fine .
So far , good even with IE .
So I do n't really care about these ''stats' ' news .
MS already made Windows and lots of third party apps impossible to run without their html rendering framework .
They won ages ago .
The only real big threat to that is webkit right now .
It can do what MSHTML can do , can even fit to Symbian S60 entry level phones and performance king now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I saw iPhone browser having 3\% share at my own sites, I said ''respect'' and nothing else.
The other stealth giant is Opera Mini (J2ME) which does play a lot of pragmatic games to fool sites as mobile user isn't really up to some ''I will show my browser and you will serve me'' kind of thing.
It is standards compliant too, just like Webkit.Anyway, all my sites are W3C standards compliant and it is up to browser to show it fine.
So far, good even with IE.
So I don't really care about these ''stats'' news.
MS already made Windows  and lots of third party apps impossible to run without their html rendering framework.
They won ages ago.
The only real big threat to that is webkit right now.
It can do what MSHTML can do, can even fit to Symbian S60 entry level phones and performance king now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613993</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616349</id>
	<title>Re:Slashdot browser shares??</title>
	<author>jrumney</author>
	<datestamp>1246974540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How could you leave Cowboy Neal out of any survey connected with Slashdot?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How could you leave Cowboy Neal out of any survey connected with Slashdot ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How could you leave Cowboy Neal out of any survey connected with Slashdot?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614109</id>
	<title>IE8 likely to blame</title>
	<author>Cryophallion</author>
	<datestamp>1246961580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm betting there is an issue with the user agent reporting with IE8, or the stats are focused on IE7.<br>MS pushed IE8 out as a security update this month, and I bet most non-business computers got auto-updated.</p><p>Either that, or they didn't like IE8 with compatibility mode (hey, there's an idea, let's re-break the sites so they display the way the webs designers had to code it to get around our own bugs), so they went to FF 3.5.</p><p>Or, everyone could have just given up and gone to Mac and Linx/Unix derivative. But I think that is too much to hope for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm betting there is an issue with the user agent reporting with IE8 , or the stats are focused on IE7.MS pushed IE8 out as a security update this month , and I bet most non-business computers got auto-updated.Either that , or they did n't like IE8 with compatibility mode ( hey , there 's an idea , let 's re-break the sites so they display the way the webs designers had to code it to get around our own bugs ) , so they went to FF 3.5.Or , everyone could have just given up and gone to Mac and Linx/Unix derivative .
But I think that is too much to hope for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm betting there is an issue with the user agent reporting with IE8, or the stats are focused on IE7.MS pushed IE8 out as a security update this month, and I bet most non-business computers got auto-updated.Either that, or they didn't like IE8 with compatibility mode (hey, there's an idea, let's re-break the sites so they display the way the webs designers had to code it to get around our own bugs), so they went to FF 3.5.Or, everyone could have just given up and gone to Mac and Linx/Unix derivative.
But I think that is too much to hope for.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614073</id>
	<title>Yes, of course</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246961520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IE usage is shrinking, duh, and thank goodness.  With that said the reason for the data review is actually because Linux usage dropped from 1\% (omg woohoo, Linux is taking over the world!!!111) back to 0.64'ish percent.  Don't get too excited zealots.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IE usage is shrinking , duh , and thank goodness .
With that said the reason for the data review is actually because Linux usage dropped from 1 \ % ( omg woohoo , Linux is taking over the world ! !
! 111 ) back to 0.64'ish percent .
Do n't get too excited zealots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IE usage is shrinking, duh, and thank goodness.
With that said the reason for the data review is actually because Linux usage dropped from 1\% (omg woohoo, Linux is taking over the world!!
!111) back to 0.64'ish percent.
Don't get too excited zealots.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614589</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246963560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We are at 84.29\% IE, 11.1\% Firefox, 3.55\% Safari, 0.86\% Chrome, and 0.09\% Mozilla.  I think the kind of Web site has a big impact on what sort of visitors you have.  We have a lot of small business users, which I have always connected to the high IE numbers -- old Windows machines.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We are at 84.29 \ % IE , 11.1 \ % Firefox , 3.55 \ % Safari , 0.86 \ % Chrome , and 0.09 \ % Mozilla .
I think the kind of Web site has a big impact on what sort of visitors you have .
We have a lot of small business users , which I have always connected to the high IE numbers -- old Windows machines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We are at 84.29\% IE, 11.1\% Firefox, 3.55\% Safari, 0.86\% Chrome, and 0.09\% Mozilla.
I think the kind of Web site has a big impact on what sort of visitors you have.
We have a lot of small business users, which I have always connected to the high IE numbers -- old Windows machines.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614055</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614179</id>
	<title>Virus here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246961820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, this is a set of viruses that does a lot of popups and more.  Skip this link, if you can.  Think we'll see more of it in the future as well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , this is a set of viruses that does a lot of popups and more .
Skip this link , if you can .
Think we 'll see more of it in the future as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, this is a set of viruses that does a lot of popups and more.
Skip this link, if you can.
Think we'll see more of it in the future as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614083</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614655</id>
	<title>Re:Proliferation of mobile browsers...</title>
	<author>Xest</author>
	<datestamp>1246963860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>More realistically it's something to do with the IE8 release as this is the period that IE8 was released to Windows System Update Services so it's the time you could expect large corporations to start having it rolled out.</p><p>I might be wrong, but I think if anything large scale has happened to browser market share it's much more likely to be tied to that, particularly when you take into account the fact IE8 install from WSUS makes itself the default browser and many users wont really know what difference that makes other than the fact their browser suddenly looks different.</p><p>Perhaps the confusion is also to do with IE8's compatability mode, I don't know, maybe it reports a different user agent string when it's in compatability mode or something?</p><p>I'm just speculating, don't quote me on any of this, but it seems the most plausible cause for a massive change like that, particularly as the time frames coincide.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>More realistically it 's something to do with the IE8 release as this is the period that IE8 was released to Windows System Update Services so it 's the time you could expect large corporations to start having it rolled out.I might be wrong , but I think if anything large scale has happened to browser market share it 's much more likely to be tied to that , particularly when you take into account the fact IE8 install from WSUS makes itself the default browser and many users wont really know what difference that makes other than the fact their browser suddenly looks different.Perhaps the confusion is also to do with IE8 's compatability mode , I do n't know , maybe it reports a different user agent string when it 's in compatability mode or something ? I 'm just speculating , do n't quote me on any of this , but it seems the most plausible cause for a massive change like that , particularly as the time frames coincide .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More realistically it's something to do with the IE8 release as this is the period that IE8 was released to Windows System Update Services so it's the time you could expect large corporations to start having it rolled out.I might be wrong, but I think if anything large scale has happened to browser market share it's much more likely to be tied to that, particularly when you take into account the fact IE8 install from WSUS makes itself the default browser and many users wont really know what difference that makes other than the fact their browser suddenly looks different.Perhaps the confusion is also to do with IE8's compatability mode, I don't know, maybe it reports a different user agent string when it's in compatability mode or something?I'm just speculating, don't quote me on any of this, but it seems the most plausible cause for a massive change like that, particularly as the time frames coincide.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614563</id>
	<title>Re:IE8 likely to blame</title>
	<author>clampolo</author>
	<datestamp>1246963440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm hoping that all of this is true.  I want to tear my hair out every time I have to do special code branches for IE since MS refuse to follow W3C standards</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm hoping that all of this is true .
I want to tear my hair out every time I have to do special code branches for IE since MS refuse to follow W3C standards</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm hoping that all of this is true.
I want to tear my hair out every time I have to do special code branches for IE since MS refuse to follow W3C standards</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614109</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614083</id>
	<title>Not true</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246961520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I recently found an <a href="http://izaehu.notlong.com/" title="notlong.com" rel="nofollow">article </a> [notlong.com] that contradicts these findings.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I recently found an article [ notlong.com ] that contradicts these findings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recently found an article  [notlong.com] that contradicts these findings.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614609</id>
	<title>Ugh!!!</title>
	<author>ohtani</author>
	<datestamp>1246963620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ugh ugh ugh UGH! STOP IT PEOPLE! Stop it!</p><p>Seriously stop basing a SINGLE SITE that is NOT well known to the GENERAL PUBLIC as a meter of how many people use IE or not.</p><p>Infact I just looked at my stats for June. Guess what browser was #1 and was probably ATLEAST 50\% of the hits (also including bots)? IE 5!</p><p>Not 6, not even 7. 5. 70,000 hits marked as IE5. Next inline was Firefox 3 w/ 5600 hits.</p><p>Let's take what is considered the "top 10" or "top 100" sites of the internet and use THEIR stats to figure things out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ugh ugh ugh UGH !
STOP IT PEOPLE !
Stop it ! Seriously stop basing a SINGLE SITE that is NOT well known to the GENERAL PUBLIC as a meter of how many people use IE or not.Infact I just looked at my stats for June .
Guess what browser was # 1 and was probably ATLEAST 50 \ % of the hits ( also including bots ) ?
IE 5 ! Not 6 , not even 7 .
5. 70,000 hits marked as IE5 .
Next inline was Firefox 3 w/ 5600 hits.Let 's take what is considered the " top 10 " or " top 100 " sites of the internet and use THEIR stats to figure things out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ugh ugh ugh UGH!
STOP IT PEOPLE!
Stop it!Seriously stop basing a SINGLE SITE that is NOT well known to the GENERAL PUBLIC as a meter of how many people use IE or not.Infact I just looked at my stats for June.
Guess what browser was #1 and was probably ATLEAST 50\% of the hits (also including bots)?
IE 5!Not 6, not even 7.
5. 70,000 hits marked as IE5.
Next inline was Firefox 3 w/ 5600 hits.Let's take what is considered the "top 10" or "top 100" sites of the internet and use THEIR stats to figure things out.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614517</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>ocularDeathRay</author>
	<datestamp>1246963200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>yeah now people are more educated and lynx is really taking market share.</htmltext>
<tokenext>yeah now people are more educated and lynx is really taking market share .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yeah now people are more educated and lynx is really taking market share.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613961</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28617759</id>
	<title>Here are some stats</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246987080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://static.worldsoft-cms.info/doc/agent-trends.html (trend from around 25K domains)<br>seems msie is losing some share but not as dramatic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //static.worldsoft-cms.info/doc/agent-trends.html ( trend from around 25K domains ) seems msie is losing some share but not as dramatic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://static.worldsoft-cms.info/doc/agent-trends.html (trend from around 25K domains)seems msie is losing some share but not as dramatic.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28619789</id>
	<title>IE total drops 19\% in 4 months on sports site</title>
	<author>KayakFun</author>
	<datestamp>1247057160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My site kayakfun.info (dutch-language site about whitewater kayaking, so no tech-bias) runs Webalizer stats so I only see the top 15 agents, amid lots of bots, but here is the summary from feb 2009 to jun 2009:
</p><ul>
<li>IE total went from 44\% to 37\% (-19\%)</li>
<li>Moz 5 (Fx and Safari people explained above) went from 12\% to 18\% (+50\%)</li>
<li>Opera 8.5 went from 0.9\% to 2.5\% (+170\%)</li>

<li>IE6 dropped from 13 to 9\%</li>
<li>IE7 dropped from 30 to 23\%</li>
<li>IE8 went from 1 to 5\%</li>
</ul><p>
So "collapsing" ? No, IE total is just slowly degrading for evolutionary reasons, most likely asymptotically approaching zero after a long time. I sincerely hope IE6 and 7 drop out of the top15 really soon, IE8 is not that bad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My site kayakfun.info ( dutch-language site about whitewater kayaking , so no tech-bias ) runs Webalizer stats so I only see the top 15 agents , amid lots of bots , but here is the summary from feb 2009 to jun 2009 : IE total went from 44 \ % to 37 \ % ( -19 \ % ) Moz 5 ( Fx and Safari people explained above ) went from 12 \ % to 18 \ % ( + 50 \ % ) Opera 8.5 went from 0.9 \ % to 2.5 \ % ( + 170 \ % ) IE6 dropped from 13 to 9 \ % IE7 dropped from 30 to 23 \ % IE8 went from 1 to 5 \ % So " collapsing " ?
No , IE total is just slowly degrading for evolutionary reasons , most likely asymptotically approaching zero after a long time .
I sincerely hope IE6 and 7 drop out of the top15 really soon , IE8 is not that bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My site kayakfun.info (dutch-language site about whitewater kayaking, so no tech-bias) runs Webalizer stats so I only see the top 15 agents, amid lots of bots, but here is the summary from feb 2009 to jun 2009:

IE total went from 44\% to 37\% (-19\%)
Moz 5 (Fx and Safari people explained above) went from 12\% to 18\% (+50\%)
Opera 8.5 went from 0.9\% to 2.5\% (+170\%)

IE6 dropped from 13 to 9\%
IE7 dropped from 30 to 23\%
IE8 went from 1 to 5\%

So "collapsing" ?
No, IE total is just slowly degrading for evolutionary reasons, most likely asymptotically approaching zero after a long time.
I sincerely hope IE6 and 7 drop out of the top15 really soon, IE8 is not that bad.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616333</id>
	<title>yes i believe it is</title>
	<author>smash</author>
	<datestamp>1246974420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>... not drastically yet, but the alternatives (Chrome, Safari, Mozilla) are beoming more markedly different in performance.  Despite what Microsoft may claim with IE8, a typically install over an old windows box is a pig.  It runs slowly, locks up the UI whilst seemingly doing nothing while loading pages, etc.
</p><p>
It is *MUCH BETTER* on a clean install or upgrade of Windows 7 (i was shocked at the performance difference, on vista it was a pig, same machine), but there aren't a hell of a lot of windows 7 users out there yet.
</p><p>
Also, the mac is gaining market share, and Safari is actually good on PC with version 4 (for the first time).
</p><p>
Hence, my daily browser of choice is currently Safari 4, as its basically the same between both platforms I regularly use for desktop use, gets 100\% in acid 3, is pretty quick, and i'm addicted to coverflow bookmark browsing (thought it was a gimmick until i used it, finding a page by looking at it is SOOO much easier than remembering the title that no one looks at while reading it).
</p><p>
If i'm on a free nix box its generally Firefox...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... not drastically yet , but the alternatives ( Chrome , Safari , Mozilla ) are beoming more markedly different in performance .
Despite what Microsoft may claim with IE8 , a typically install over an old windows box is a pig .
It runs slowly , locks up the UI whilst seemingly doing nothing while loading pages , etc .
It is * MUCH BETTER * on a clean install or upgrade of Windows 7 ( i was shocked at the performance difference , on vista it was a pig , same machine ) , but there are n't a hell of a lot of windows 7 users out there yet .
Also , the mac is gaining market share , and Safari is actually good on PC with version 4 ( for the first time ) .
Hence , my daily browser of choice is currently Safari 4 , as its basically the same between both platforms I regularly use for desktop use , gets 100 \ % in acid 3 , is pretty quick , and i 'm addicted to coverflow bookmark browsing ( thought it was a gimmick until i used it , finding a page by looking at it is SOOO much easier than remembering the title that no one looks at while reading it ) .
If i 'm on a free nix box its generally Firefox.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... not drastically yet, but the alternatives (Chrome, Safari, Mozilla) are beoming more markedly different in performance.
Despite what Microsoft may claim with IE8, a typically install over an old windows box is a pig.
It runs slowly, locks up the UI whilst seemingly doing nothing while loading pages, etc.
It is *MUCH BETTER* on a clean install or upgrade of Windows 7 (i was shocked at the performance difference, on vista it was a pig, same machine), but there aren't a hell of a lot of windows 7 users out there yet.
Also, the mac is gaining market share, and Safari is actually good on PC with version 4 (for the first time).
Hence, my daily browser of choice is currently Safari 4, as its basically the same between both platforms I regularly use for desktop use, gets 100\% in acid 3, is pretty quick, and i'm addicted to coverflow bookmark browsing (thought it was a gimmick until i used it, finding a page by looking at it is SOOO much easier than remembering the title that no one looks at while reading it).
If i'm on a free nix box its generally Firefox...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28623103</id>
	<title>People surfing from home</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247070900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>More people being out of work means they are doing all their surfing from home.</p><p>Conclusion: Fewer corporate computers on the net means less IE on the net.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>More people being out of work means they are doing all their surfing from home.Conclusion : Fewer corporate computers on the net means less IE on the net .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More people being out of work means they are doing all their surfing from home.Conclusion: Fewer corporate computers on the net means less IE on the net.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615271</id>
	<title>Internet Averages According to Omniture</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246966980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>
IE: 68.5\%
Firefox: 17.2\%
Safari: 6.0\%
Chrome: 1.5\%
Other: 5.9\%
Netscape: 0.1\%
Opera: 0.1\%</htmltext>
<tokenext>IE : 68.5 \ % Firefox : 17.2 \ % Safari : 6.0 \ % Chrome : 1.5 \ % Other : 5.9 \ % Netscape : 0.1 \ % Opera : 0.1 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
IE: 68.5\%
Firefox: 17.2\%
Safari: 6.0\%
Chrome: 1.5\%
Other: 5.9\%
Netscape: 0.1\%
Opera: 0.1\%</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618797</id>
	<title>Re:Segment and conquer</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1247085360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But currently, <a href="http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser\_version-an-daily-20090701-20090707-bar" title="statcounter.com" rel="nofollow">Apple seems to be better at marketing.</a> [statcounter.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But currently , Apple seems to be better at marketing .
[ statcounter.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But currently, Apple seems to be better at marketing.
[statcounter.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613975</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618067</id>
	<title>Re: Is IE Usage Share Collapsing?</title>
	<author>Magnome</author>
	<datestamp>1246990080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Perhaps Firefox' greatest contribution to the web will not be it's own coronation, but as the entity that provided the elbow room for true competition to develop.  This is consistent with the spirit and intent of the modern WWW as a great equalizer, distributing freedoms, voices, and choices throughout the world.  The free market is cool when it works...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps Firefox ' greatest contribution to the web will not be it 's own coronation , but as the entity that provided the elbow room for true competition to develop .
This is consistent with the spirit and intent of the modern WWW as a great equalizer , distributing freedoms , voices , and choices throughout the world .
The free market is cool when it works.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps Firefox' greatest contribution to the web will not be it's own coronation, but as the entity that provided the elbow room for true competition to develop.
This is consistent with the spirit and intent of the modern WWW as a great equalizer, distributing freedoms, voices, and choices throughout the world.
The free market is cool when it works...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616527</id>
	<title>The economy.</title>
	<author>Repossessed</author>
	<datestamp>1246976100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People are browsing from work less as they get laid off/worry about getting layed off.  IE usage has always been higher thanks to its dominance in the workplace.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People are browsing from work less as they get laid off/worry about getting layed off .
IE usage has always been higher thanks to its dominance in the workplace .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People are browsing from work less as they get laid off/worry about getting layed off.
IE usage has always been higher thanks to its dominance in the workplace.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616491</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246975740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Run an Android blog...</p><p>My stats show a slight dip in FF with Chrome and Safari gaining. IE is the only constant. FF3.5 usage spiked on July 2nd, obviously. 80\% of my IE visitors use IE 7 and that was constant between May and June.</p><p>MAY<br>FF: 52.04\%<br>IE: 19.18\%<br>Safari: 14.55\%<br>Chrome: 10.40\%</p><p>JUNE<br>FF: 46.97\%<br>IE: 19.65\%<br>Safari: 19.79\%<br>Chrome: 12.37\%</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Run an Android blog...My stats show a slight dip in FF with Chrome and Safari gaining .
IE is the only constant .
FF3.5 usage spiked on July 2nd , obviously .
80 \ % of my IE visitors use IE 7 and that was constant between May and June.MAYFF : 52.04 \ % IE : 19.18 \ % Safari : 14.55 \ % Chrome : 10.40 \ % JUNEFF : 46.97 \ % IE : 19.65 \ % Safari : 19.79 \ % Chrome : 12.37 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Run an Android blog...My stats show a slight dip in FF with Chrome and Safari gaining.
IE is the only constant.
FF3.5 usage spiked on July 2nd, obviously.
80\% of my IE visitors use IE 7 and that was constant between May and June.MAYFF: 52.04\%IE: 19.18\%Safari: 14.55\%Chrome: 10.40\%JUNEFF: 46.97\%IE: 19.65\%Safari: 19.79\%Chrome: 12.37\%</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614309</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614207</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246961880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What I noticed is a dramatic shift in the listening to your IT guy lately.</p><p>People actually listen now instead of blowing me off and going right back to their porn surfing with IE.</p><p>The bad economy makes people actually listen when the IT guy says "I'll be back in 30 days to collect another $250.00 if you dont change your internet habits."</p><p>I love a bad economy, it forces people to be less stupid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What I noticed is a dramatic shift in the listening to your IT guy lately.People actually listen now instead of blowing me off and going right back to their porn surfing with IE.The bad economy makes people actually listen when the IT guy says " I 'll be back in 30 days to collect another $ 250.00 if you dont change your internet habits .
" I love a bad economy , it forces people to be less stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I noticed is a dramatic shift in the listening to your IT guy lately.People actually listen now instead of blowing me off and going right back to their porn surfing with IE.The bad economy makes people actually listen when the IT guy says "I'll be back in 30 days to collect another $250.00 if you dont change your internet habits.
"I love a bad economy, it forces people to be less stupid.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613961</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28620003</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247059380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"People actually listen now instead of blowing me off..."</p><p>Jeez!  I think I'd rather be blown off than listened to.  Especially in the secretary pool.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" People actually listen now instead of blowing me off... " Jeez !
I think I 'd rather be blown off than listened to .
Especially in the secretary pool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"People actually listen now instead of blowing me off..."Jeez!
I think I'd rather be blown off than listened to.
Especially in the secretary pool.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614207</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618927</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247086680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Local portal, about 60k visits/month:</p><p>2009: Firefox 45.52\%, IE 44.21\%, Opera 6.22\%, Chrome 2.97\%<br>2008: IE 45.53\%, Firefox 45.92\%, Opera 7.06\%</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Local portal , about 60k visits/month : 2009 : Firefox 45.52 \ % , IE 44.21 \ % , Opera 6.22 \ % , Chrome 2.97 \ % 2008 : IE 45.53 \ % , Firefox 45.92 \ % , Opera 7.06 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Local portal, about 60k visits/month:2009: Firefox 45.52\%, IE 44.21\%, Opera 6.22\%, Chrome 2.97\%2008: IE 45.53\%, Firefox 45.92\%, Opera 7.06\%</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614055</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28619241</id>
	<title>So, what happened in June?</title>
	<author>darkonc</author>
	<datestamp>1247048220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In June, a lot of kids stopped using their schools' computers.
<p>
If lots of school computers use IE, and lots of kids use other browsers at home, then this could explain the sudden shift.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In June , a lot of kids stopped using their schools ' computers .
If lots of school computers use IE , and lots of kids use other browsers at home , then this could explain the sudden shift .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In June, a lot of kids stopped using their schools' computers.
If lots of school computers use IE, and lots of kids use other browsers at home, then this could explain the sudden shift.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616045</id>
	<title>lusers didn't just get smart over night</title>
	<author>lanner</author>
	<datestamp>1246972320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's see, did all the lusers using MSIE suddenly get a lot smarter?  Probably not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's see , did all the lusers using MSIE suddenly get a lot smarter ?
Probably not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's see, did all the lusers using MSIE suddenly get a lot smarter?
Probably not.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615147</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246966080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"To compare this to more sinister things: Notice of your house being demolished on Tuesday can be put up in a dark cellar with no stairs at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory of the planning office guarded by a Leopard."</p><p>What I got out of this was:</p><p>The planning office has a leopard?!</p><p>Sorry, that's just too cool.  I just hope you mean the large cat, not the overly large woman who daily wears leopard printed shirts and pants who happens to be the secretary at the planning office.  That would be uncool.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" To compare this to more sinister things : Notice of your house being demolished on Tuesday can be put up in a dark cellar with no stairs at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory of the planning office guarded by a Leopard .
" What I got out of this was : The planning office has a leopard ?
! Sorry , that 's just too cool .
I just hope you mean the large cat , not the overly large woman who daily wears leopard printed shirts and pants who happens to be the secretary at the planning office .
That would be uncool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"To compare this to more sinister things: Notice of your house being demolished on Tuesday can be put up in a dark cellar with no stairs at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory of the planning office guarded by a Leopard.
"What I got out of this was:The planning office has a leopard?
!Sorry, that's just too cool.
I just hope you mean the large cat, not the overly large woman who daily wears leopard printed shirts and pants who happens to be the secretary at the planning office.
That would be uncool.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28617449</id>
	<title>Re:Looking from multiple angles</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246984800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you look at this graph of long-term trends from statcounter:

<p>Source: <a href="http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser\_version-ww-daily-20080701-20090707" title="statcounter.com" rel="nofollow">StatCounter Global Stats - Browser Version Market Share</a> [statcounter.com] </p><p>

you'll see that mostly what's happened is that IE7 has dropped in almost exact step with the growth of IE8, probably because most of it represents autoupgrades done by windows update, and apart from that IE overall has lost a few percent to FF in the same period, and that's about it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you look at this graph of long-term trends from statcounter : Source : StatCounter Global Stats - Browser Version Market Share [ statcounter.com ] you 'll see that mostly what 's happened is that IE7 has dropped in almost exact step with the growth of IE8 , probably because most of it represents autoupgrades done by windows update , and apart from that IE overall has lost a few percent to FF in the same period , and that 's about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you look at this graph of long-term trends from statcounter:

Source: StatCounter Global Stats - Browser Version Market Share [statcounter.com] 

you'll see that mostly what's happened is that IE7 has dropped in almost exact step with the growth of IE8, probably because most of it represents autoupgrades done by windows update, and apart from that IE overall has lost a few percent to FF in the same period, and that's about it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614613</id>
	<title>Looking at my (hobby) site's stats</title>
	<author>93 Escort Wagon</author>
	<datestamp>1246963680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My personal gardening site (smallish, roughly 1000+ visitors a day) shows IE usage has dropped a huge amount - it's down to 43\% of visitors. It's been a long time since I've looked at browser splits, so I don't know how the trend has tracked.</p><p>Since it's a gardening site, I'd assume it's less likely to be a big target for work-based browsing. That, I'd guess, would still be dominated by IE.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My personal gardening site ( smallish , roughly 1000 + visitors a day ) shows IE usage has dropped a huge amount - it 's down to 43 \ % of visitors .
It 's been a long time since I 've looked at browser splits , so I do n't know how the trend has tracked.Since it 's a gardening site , I 'd assume it 's less likely to be a big target for work-based browsing .
That , I 'd guess , would still be dominated by IE .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My personal gardening site (smallish, roughly 1000+ visitors a day) shows IE usage has dropped a huge amount - it's down to 43\% of visitors.
It's been a long time since I've looked at browser splits, so I don't know how the trend has tracked.Since it's a gardening site, I'd assume it's less likely to be a big target for work-based browsing.
That, I'd guess, would still be dominated by IE.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28617333</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246983660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has Debian got package management right?  Can you build a single package and install it on all major releases of the OS (on the same architecture) from the last 8 years, without having to recompile anything?</p><p>Debian has managed to deal with a very different problem; they're awesome for it, but it's still an apples-to-oranges comparison.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has Debian got package management right ?
Can you build a single package and install it on all major releases of the OS ( on the same architecture ) from the last 8 years , without having to recompile anything ? Debian has managed to deal with a very different problem ; they 're awesome for it , but it 's still an apples-to-oranges comparison .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has Debian got package management right?
Can you build a single package and install it on all major releases of the OS (on the same architecture) from the last 8 years, without having to recompile anything?Debian has managed to deal with a very different problem; they're awesome for it, but it's still an apples-to-oranges comparison.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614213</id>
	<title>What would really be useful...</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1246961940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Would be a breakdown of browser share by type of user/system.<br> <br>

Different users and systems have, by their browser choices, effects on different aspects of the web. For instance, Big Serious Corporate setups are likely a bastion of IE6, maybe some 7 among the adventurous ones. This has an enormously strong influence on developers of corporate intranet stuff, and portal sites; but probably has relatively little effect on your trendy web 2.0 entertainment/social networking outfits. Most places that are still using IE6 probably have IT staff blocking friendTube and Twitbook and whatnot.<br> <br>

The situation with, say, college students is pretty much exactly the opposite. Aggregate numbers are interesting, and it is always fun to watch IE's share sink; but they don't really tell you what you actually want to know; which is "What mixes of browsers are particular sites or categories of sites running into, what browsers are different groups of people using(and how willing are they to switch)?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would be a breakdown of browser share by type of user/system .
Different users and systems have , by their browser choices , effects on different aspects of the web .
For instance , Big Serious Corporate setups are likely a bastion of IE6 , maybe some 7 among the adventurous ones .
This has an enormously strong influence on developers of corporate intranet stuff , and portal sites ; but probably has relatively little effect on your trendy web 2.0 entertainment/social networking outfits .
Most places that are still using IE6 probably have IT staff blocking friendTube and Twitbook and whatnot .
The situation with , say , college students is pretty much exactly the opposite .
Aggregate numbers are interesting , and it is always fun to watch IE 's share sink ; but they do n't really tell you what you actually want to know ; which is " What mixes of browsers are particular sites or categories of sites running into , what browsers are different groups of people using ( and how willing are they to switch ) ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would be a breakdown of browser share by type of user/system.
Different users and systems have, by their browser choices, effects on different aspects of the web.
For instance, Big Serious Corporate setups are likely a bastion of IE6, maybe some 7 among the adventurous ones.
This has an enormously strong influence on developers of corporate intranet stuff, and portal sites; but probably has relatively little effect on your trendy web 2.0 entertainment/social networking outfits.
Most places that are still using IE6 probably have IT staff blocking friendTube and Twitbook and whatnot.
The situation with, say, college students is pretty much exactly the opposite.
Aggregate numbers are interesting, and it is always fun to watch IE's share sink; but they don't really tell you what you actually want to know; which is "What mixes of browsers are particular sites or categories of sites running into, what browsers are different groups of people using(and how willing are they to switch)?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614055</id>
	<title>My statistics</title>
	<author>GoNINzo</author>
	<datestamp>1246961460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I run a somewhat largish non-technology site, and I saw yesterday:<br>
40.91\% 	MSIE 7.0<br>
27.11\% 	MSIE 6.0<br>
14.60\% 	Mozilla/5.0<br>
12.98\% 	MSIE 8.0<br>
<br>
Everything else below<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.1\%.  So that's 81\% MSIE, 14.6\% Mozilla, and everything else in the remaining 4.4\%.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I run a somewhat largish non-technology site , and I saw yesterday : 40.91 \ % MSIE 7.0 27.11 \ % MSIE 6.0 14.60 \ % Mozilla/5.0 12.98 \ % MSIE 8.0 Everything else below .1 \ % .
So that 's 81 \ % MSIE , 14.6 \ % Mozilla , and everything else in the remaining 4.4 \ % .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I run a somewhat largish non-technology site, and I saw yesterday:
40.91\% 	MSIE 7.0
27.11\% 	MSIE 6.0
14.60\% 	Mozilla/5.0
12.98\% 	MSIE 8.0

Everything else below .1\%.
So that's 81\% MSIE, 14.6\% Mozilla, and everything else in the remaining 4.4\%.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618653</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>gig</author>
	<datestamp>1247083560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; how much of the difference between commercial and OSS really is technical</p><p>If regular people are leaving IE for Safari or Chrome or Firefox in large numbers it is for technical reasons not political because even I don't understand WTF you are talking about. A recent poll showed only 8\% of the public know what a "Web Browser" is. The fact that WebKit is BSD licensed and Firefox GPL probably has no meaningful impact on IE market share.</p><p>Safari, Chrome, and Firefox are all 2x-8x faster than the latest IE, and you can run the latest Safari and Chrome on mobiles also. You can run Firefox completely for free on almost any PC hardware because you just have to install Ubuntu and there you go. At the same time, IE is a disaster. An epic technical failure. The current mobile version is based on the 1998 PC version.</p><p>You don't need to look any further than technical as the IE users peel off. The contrast is extremely stark.</p><p>I'm consulting in an all-Microsoft shop right now and they have all 2003 stuff and what they want is to move to Web apps, so they are thinking of standardizing company-wide on Chrome, at first on Windows and then later on Linux or a Google client OS. Nobody talks about moving to whatever is coming out of Microsoft tomorrow or ever. Their conversation around Microsoft for years has been how to keep it all running without upgrading it any further, basically an I-T freeze. Now they can see Web apps and cheap PC clients and of course smart phones for all as the next steps, and Microsoft is 0/3 in those categories. Also, they are moving away from paper faster than ever and Word does not have a "Publish to Web" command, there is no enthusiasm for a new version of Office, which is why they're still using 2003.</p><p>Microsoft's technical problems surely come at least in part from their inability to accept that some software projects, like browser engines and operating system cores, are better done in a community way through open source and standardization. But at the end of the day if your stuff works, nobody cares how you made the sausage. IE is falling under its own weight right now, and just when Safari, Chrome, and Firefox are really shining. The new typography in Firefox 3.5 really impressed me, and I was happy to see good typography from someone other than Apple and Adobe. Safari is so easy to use and so fast, what a joy. Chrome is a great business browser that will replace IE in a lot of corporate environments over the next few years and everyone will be better for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; how much of the difference between commercial and OSS really is technicalIf regular people are leaving IE for Safari or Chrome or Firefox in large numbers it is for technical reasons not political because even I do n't understand WTF you are talking about .
A recent poll showed only 8 \ % of the public know what a " Web Browser " is .
The fact that WebKit is BSD licensed and Firefox GPL probably has no meaningful impact on IE market share.Safari , Chrome , and Firefox are all 2x-8x faster than the latest IE , and you can run the latest Safari and Chrome on mobiles also .
You can run Firefox completely for free on almost any PC hardware because you just have to install Ubuntu and there you go .
At the same time , IE is a disaster .
An epic technical failure .
The current mobile version is based on the 1998 PC version.You do n't need to look any further than technical as the IE users peel off .
The contrast is extremely stark.I 'm consulting in an all-Microsoft shop right now and they have all 2003 stuff and what they want is to move to Web apps , so they are thinking of standardizing company-wide on Chrome , at first on Windows and then later on Linux or a Google client OS .
Nobody talks about moving to whatever is coming out of Microsoft tomorrow or ever .
Their conversation around Microsoft for years has been how to keep it all running without upgrading it any further , basically an I-T freeze .
Now they can see Web apps and cheap PC clients and of course smart phones for all as the next steps , and Microsoft is 0/3 in those categories .
Also , they are moving away from paper faster than ever and Word does not have a " Publish to Web " command , there is no enthusiasm for a new version of Office , which is why they 're still using 2003.Microsoft 's technical problems surely come at least in part from their inability to accept that some software projects , like browser engines and operating system cores , are better done in a community way through open source and standardization .
But at the end of the day if your stuff works , nobody cares how you made the sausage .
IE is falling under its own weight right now , and just when Safari , Chrome , and Firefox are really shining .
The new typography in Firefox 3.5 really impressed me , and I was happy to see good typography from someone other than Apple and Adobe .
Safari is so easy to use and so fast , what a joy .
Chrome is a great business browser that will replace IE in a lot of corporate environments over the next few years and everyone will be better for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; how much of the difference between commercial and OSS really is technicalIf regular people are leaving IE for Safari or Chrome or Firefox in large numbers it is for technical reasons not political because even I don't understand WTF you are talking about.
A recent poll showed only 8\% of the public know what a "Web Browser" is.
The fact that WebKit is BSD licensed and Firefox GPL probably has no meaningful impact on IE market share.Safari, Chrome, and Firefox are all 2x-8x faster than the latest IE, and you can run the latest Safari and Chrome on mobiles also.
You can run Firefox completely for free on almost any PC hardware because you just have to install Ubuntu and there you go.
At the same time, IE is a disaster.
An epic technical failure.
The current mobile version is based on the 1998 PC version.You don't need to look any further than technical as the IE users peel off.
The contrast is extremely stark.I'm consulting in an all-Microsoft shop right now and they have all 2003 stuff and what they want is to move to Web apps, so they are thinking of standardizing company-wide on Chrome, at first on Windows and then later on Linux or a Google client OS.
Nobody talks about moving to whatever is coming out of Microsoft tomorrow or ever.
Their conversation around Microsoft for years has been how to keep it all running without upgrading it any further, basically an I-T freeze.
Now they can see Web apps and cheap PC clients and of course smart phones for all as the next steps, and Microsoft is 0/3 in those categories.
Also, they are moving away from paper faster than ever and Word does not have a "Publish to Web" command, there is no enthusiasm for a new version of Office, which is why they're still using 2003.Microsoft's technical problems surely come at least in part from their inability to accept that some software projects, like browser engines and operating system cores, are better done in a community way through open source and standardization.
But at the end of the day if your stuff works, nobody cares how you made the sausage.
IE is falling under its own weight right now, and just when Safari, Chrome, and Firefox are really shining.
The new typography in Firefox 3.5 really impressed me, and I was happy to see good typography from someone other than Apple and Adobe.
Safari is so easy to use and so fast, what a joy.
Chrome is a great business browser that will replace IE in a lot of corporate environments over the next few years and everyone will be better for it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614557</id>
	<title>Re:hmm.... it's summer?</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1246963440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not too mention everyone who uses IE at work is taking their vacation!</p><p>Its not people switching browsers, its switching off!</p><p>(probably an innaccurate statement, I haven't even looked at the numbers)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not too mention everyone who uses IE at work is taking their vacation ! Its not people switching browsers , its switching off !
( probably an innaccurate statement , I have n't even looked at the numbers )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not too mention everyone who uses IE at work is taking their vacation!Its not people switching browsers, its switching off!
(probably an innaccurate statement, I haven't even looked at the numbers)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616983</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>abhi\_beckert</author>
	<datestamp>1246980300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the case of browsers, it has become a technical issue. Microsoft has a monopoly marketshare, and also has several commercial products which are threatened by the new generation of online platform-independent software. This has lead to microsoft freezing their previously rapid development of IE to a snails pace, and open source web browsers (which could not keep up with IE's old development speed) have overtaken it and become much more technically advanced.</p><p>Personally, I love open source (and am involved in several projects of various sizes, some of which I created myself). But I will use commercial software over open source if it is better and reasonably priced. For example, a few years ago I purchased the OmniWeb browser, but no-longer use it because most of the open source browsers available today are better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the case of browsers , it has become a technical issue .
Microsoft has a monopoly marketshare , and also has several commercial products which are threatened by the new generation of online platform-independent software .
This has lead to microsoft freezing their previously rapid development of IE to a snails pace , and open source web browsers ( which could not keep up with IE 's old development speed ) have overtaken it and become much more technically advanced.Personally , I love open source ( and am involved in several projects of various sizes , some of which I created myself ) .
But I will use commercial software over open source if it is better and reasonably priced .
For example , a few years ago I purchased the OmniWeb browser , but no-longer use it because most of the open source browsers available today are better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the case of browsers, it has become a technical issue.
Microsoft has a monopoly marketshare, and also has several commercial products which are threatened by the new generation of online platform-independent software.
This has lead to microsoft freezing their previously rapid development of IE to a snails pace, and open source web browsers (which could not keep up with IE's old development speed) have overtaken it and become much more technically advanced.Personally, I love open source (and am involved in several projects of various sizes, some of which I created myself).
But I will use commercial software over open source if it is better and reasonably priced.
For example, a few years ago I purchased the OmniWeb browser, but no-longer use it because most of the open source browsers available today are better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28627197</id>
	<title>Re:Slashdot browser shares??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247085360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Once again slashdot shows an anti Opera bias!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Once again slashdot shows an anti Opera bias !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once again slashdot shows an anti Opera bias!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618495</id>
	<title>Re:It's because IE 6 support was droped on some si</title>
	<author>haifastudent</author>
	<datestamp>1246995180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Try this site that I found on some<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. sig:<br><a href="http://what-is-what.com/" title="what-is-what.com" rel="nofollow">http://what-is-what.com/</a> [what-is-what.com]</p><p>It displays all wrong in IE, and has some broken ad at the bottom for Firefox. A \_broken\_ add, even broken in Firefox.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Try this site that I found on some / .
sig : http : //what-is-what.com/ [ what-is-what.com ] It displays all wrong in IE , and has some broken ad at the bottom for Firefox .
A \ _broken \ _ add , even broken in Firefox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try this site that I found on some /.
sig:http://what-is-what.com/ [what-is-what.com]It displays all wrong in IE, and has some broken ad at the bottom for Firefox.
A \_broken\_ add, even broken in Firefox.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615391</id>
	<title>I have a guess...</title>
	<author>hugerobot</author>
	<datestamp>1246967760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I own a computer service/repair business mostly for residential customers... like geek squad, for lack of a better national example. There's lots of small businesses like me all over the US and I'm sure abroad...you get the point...

Anyway... One thing I can say for sure, is that IE8 has really changed things for Microsoft in the browser wars. It's horrible! It seriously crashes more than it gets closed normally, it is REDICULOUSLY slow, even compared to IE7! Hell... I long for the days of IE7 and when that came out it it was hard to explain to my non-technical residential customers what this new browser was...It takes SOOOO long to load, pages render slow, its just unusable.

I've never seen seen anything as bad as IE8... while FF, Opera, Chrome are all competing to make the fastest, most compliant browsers, Microsoft is STILL(?WTF?) doing it's own thing releasing a bigger, fatter, slower browser that have features that even technical people aren't asking for...

I think they've finally made the people who have no idea what a browser is to become so fed up as to say "This thing is going so slow, maybe I should try that firefox thing I heard about..."

I bet the numbers are right. I believe IE8 is THAT BAD</htmltext>
<tokenext>I own a computer service/repair business mostly for residential customers... like geek squad , for lack of a better national example .
There 's lots of small businesses like me all over the US and I 'm sure abroad...you get the point.. . Anyway... One thing I can say for sure , is that IE8 has really changed things for Microsoft in the browser wars .
It 's horrible !
It seriously crashes more than it gets closed normally , it is REDICULOUSLY slow , even compared to IE7 !
Hell... I long for the days of IE7 and when that came out it it was hard to explain to my non-technical residential customers what this new browser was...It takes SOOOO long to load , pages render slow , its just unusable .
I 've never seen seen anything as bad as IE8... while FF , Opera , Chrome are all competing to make the fastest , most compliant browsers , Microsoft is STILL ( ? WTF ?
) doing it 's own thing releasing a bigger , fatter , slower browser that have features that even technical people are n't asking for.. . I think they 've finally made the people who have no idea what a browser is to become so fed up as to say " This thing is going so slow , maybe I should try that firefox thing I heard about... " I bet the numbers are right .
I believe IE8 is THAT BAD</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I own a computer service/repair business mostly for residential customers... like geek squad, for lack of a better national example.
There's lots of small businesses like me all over the US and I'm sure abroad...you get the point...

Anyway... One thing I can say for sure, is that IE8 has really changed things for Microsoft in the browser wars.
It's horrible!
It seriously crashes more than it gets closed normally, it is REDICULOUSLY slow, even compared to IE7!
Hell... I long for the days of IE7 and when that came out it it was hard to explain to my non-technical residential customers what this new browser was...It takes SOOOO long to load, pages render slow, its just unusable.
I've never seen seen anything as bad as IE8... while FF, Opera, Chrome are all competing to make the fastest, most compliant browsers, Microsoft is STILL(?WTF?
) doing it's own thing releasing a bigger, fatter, slower browser that have features that even technical people aren't asking for...

I think they've finally made the people who have no idea what a browser is to become so fed up as to say "This thing is going so slow, maybe I should try that firefox thing I heard about..."

I bet the numbers are right.
I believe IE8 is THAT BAD</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618663</id>
	<title>It's the differences 6-7-8</title>
	<author>Werrismys</author>
	<datestamp>1247083800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even the most adamant IE users here are starting to switch to firefox because it's too much of a pain in the ass to use IE.
FIrst they changed things in IE7 - and now again in IE8 - and the browser complains with stupid dialogs all the time asking this or that. Many sites just don't work in IE8 with default settings<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even the most adamant IE users here are starting to switch to firefox because it 's too much of a pain in the ass to use IE .
FIrst they changed things in IE7 - and now again in IE8 - and the browser complains with stupid dialogs all the time asking this or that .
Many sites just do n't work in IE8 with default settings .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even the most adamant IE users here are starting to switch to firefox because it's too much of a pain in the ass to use IE.
FIrst they changed things in IE7 - and now again in IE8 - and the browser complains with stupid dialogs all the time asking this or that.
Many sites just don't work in IE8 with default settings ...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28622649</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247069340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some statistics on a website targeting a specific geological group of environmentalists (of which 60\% were still on dial up in 2006) -<br>49\% MSIE 7.0<br>21\% MSIE 6.0<br>15\% Firefox 3.0.x.x<br>5\% MSIE 8.0<br>4\% Safari<br>2\% Chrome<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... (all below 1\%)<br>0.35\% Netscape (3 + 4 + 7)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some statistics on a website targeting a specific geological group of environmentalists ( of which 60 \ % were still on dial up in 2006 ) -49 \ % MSIE 7.021 \ % MSIE 6.015 \ % Firefox 3.0.x.x5 \ % MSIE 8.04 \ % Safari2 \ % Chrome ... ( all below 1 \ % ) 0.35 \ % Netscape ( 3 + 4 + 7 ) .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some statistics on a website targeting a specific geological group of environmentalists (of which 60\% were still on dial up in 2006) -49\% MSIE 7.021\% MSIE 6.015\% Firefox 3.0.x.x5\% MSIE 8.04\% Safari2\% Chrome ... (all below 1\%)0.35\% Netscape (3 + 4 + 7) ...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614055</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614723</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>TheoCryst</author>
	<datestamp>1246964160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ah, no mod points today.  <i>+1 Hitchhiker's Guide Reference</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah , no mod points today .
+ 1 Hitchhiker 's Guide Reference</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah, no mod points today.
+1 Hitchhiker's Guide Reference</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614183</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614089</id>
	<title>hmm.... it's summer?</title>
	<author>timtux</author>
	<datestamp>1246961520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Couldn't it just be that all the geeks are running firefox/opera/chrome and everyone else is outside in the nice weather?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could n't it just be that all the geeks are running firefox/opera/chrome and everyone else is outside in the nice weather ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Couldn't it just be that all the geeks are running firefox/opera/chrome and everyone else is outside in the nice weather?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616735</id>
	<title>So?</title>
	<author>MikeURL</author>
	<datestamp>1246977720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I sometimes wonder why MS even needs a browser.  The time when they could leverage that kind of thing into profits are long gone.  If eveyone started to use Firefox tomorrow would MS even take a revenue hit?  I tend not to think so given how puny their share of search is.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I sometimes wonder why MS even needs a browser .
The time when they could leverage that kind of thing into profits are long gone .
If eveyone started to use Firefox tomorrow would MS even take a revenue hit ?
I tend not to think so given how puny their share of search is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I sometimes wonder why MS even needs a browser.
The time when they could leverage that kind of thing into profits are long gone.
If eveyone started to use Firefox tomorrow would MS even take a revenue hit?
I tend not to think so given how puny their share of search is.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28620283</id>
	<title>Re:hmm.... it's summer?</title>
	<author>intheshelter</author>
	<datestamp>1247060760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Weather?   What is this "weather" you speak of?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Weather ?
What is this " weather " you speak of ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Weather?
What is this "weather" you speak of?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614089</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614231</id>
	<title>Please let this be true!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246962060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not only would this change be welcome, but it would force Microsoft to "play ball" with the standards for HTML rather than roll their own and mark all the bug reports "will not fix".</p><p>Take a look at the history:</p><p>1) Microsoft is all about selling stuff on CD-ROM with the marketing vision "Information at your fingertips".</p><p>2) The Internet happens, and overnight, Netscape is a raving success because it actually PUT information at your fingertips.</p><p>3) Billy boy issues a memo to the whole company to turn as fast as possible to support the Internetz.</p><p>4) IE comes out - first a sucktacular mess, and finally almost livable around IE 5 or so.</p><p>5) IE 6 comes out, Netscape crumbles.</p><p>6) Netscape goes underground at AOL who throws a few developers at it while using it to negotiate a link on the Desktop. IE Dominates so tremendously that it's the platform of choice simply because it's installed everywhere.</p><p>7) Microsoft stops doing anything for half a decade. (whistle whistle)</p><p>8) Navigator continuously improves, finally re-emerging as Phoenix/Firefox. Suddenly, Microsoft's browser looks like a 5-year-old pile of cruft that's difficult to program for.</p><p>Suddenly, Microsoft will give a shiat. They might finally fix the things that developers!developers!developers! have been whining, bitching, complaining, and screaming about all these years.</p><p>Irony: "Free Internet Exporer 8" ad at the top while I type this message!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only would this change be welcome , but it would force Microsoft to " play ball " with the standards for HTML rather than roll their own and mark all the bug reports " will not fix " .Take a look at the history : 1 ) Microsoft is all about selling stuff on CD-ROM with the marketing vision " Information at your fingertips " .2 ) The Internet happens , and overnight , Netscape is a raving success because it actually PUT information at your fingertips.3 ) Billy boy issues a memo to the whole company to turn as fast as possible to support the Internetz.4 ) IE comes out - first a sucktacular mess , and finally almost livable around IE 5 or so.5 ) IE 6 comes out , Netscape crumbles.6 ) Netscape goes underground at AOL who throws a few developers at it while using it to negotiate a link on the Desktop .
IE Dominates so tremendously that it 's the platform of choice simply because it 's installed everywhere.7 ) Microsoft stops doing anything for half a decade .
( whistle whistle ) 8 ) Navigator continuously improves , finally re-emerging as Phoenix/Firefox .
Suddenly , Microsoft 's browser looks like a 5-year-old pile of cruft that 's difficult to program for.Suddenly , Microsoft will give a shiat .
They might finally fix the things that developers ! developers ! developers !
have been whining , bitching , complaining , and screaming about all these years.Irony : " Free Internet Exporer 8 " ad at the top while I type this message !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only would this change be welcome, but it would force Microsoft to "play ball" with the standards for HTML rather than roll their own and mark all the bug reports "will not fix".Take a look at the history:1) Microsoft is all about selling stuff on CD-ROM with the marketing vision "Information at your fingertips".2) The Internet happens, and overnight, Netscape is a raving success because it actually PUT information at your fingertips.3) Billy boy issues a memo to the whole company to turn as fast as possible to support the Internetz.4) IE comes out - first a sucktacular mess, and finally almost livable around IE 5 or so.5) IE 6 comes out, Netscape crumbles.6) Netscape goes underground at AOL who throws a few developers at it while using it to negotiate a link on the Desktop.
IE Dominates so tremendously that it's the platform of choice simply because it's installed everywhere.7) Microsoft stops doing anything for half a decade.
(whistle whistle)8) Navigator continuously improves, finally re-emerging as Phoenix/Firefox.
Suddenly, Microsoft's browser looks like a 5-year-old pile of cruft that's difficult to program for.Suddenly, Microsoft will give a shiat.
They might finally fix the things that developers!developers!developers!
have been whining, bitching, complaining, and screaming about all these years.Irony: "Free Internet Exporer 8" ad at the top while I type this message!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614939</id>
	<title>Re:MJ Factor, plus, it is summer</title>
	<author>Megahard</author>
	<datestamp>1246965060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Take a look at the line graphs over a year. <a href="http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-daily-20080701-20090707" title="statcounter.com" rel="nofollow">http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-daily-20080701-20090707</a> [statcounter.com]
There's a bounce every weekend for Firefox.
Also, what happened in Brazil last September 18??  <a href="http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-BR-daily-20080701-20090707" title="statcounter.com" rel="nofollow">http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-BR-daily-20080701-20090707</a> [statcounter.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Take a look at the line graphs over a year .
http : //gs.statcounter.com/ # browser-ww-daily-20080701-20090707 [ statcounter.com ] There 's a bounce every weekend for Firefox .
Also , what happened in Brazil last September 18 ? ?
http : //gs.statcounter.com/ # browser-BR-daily-20080701-20090707 [ statcounter.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take a look at the line graphs over a year.
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-daily-20080701-20090707 [statcounter.com]
There's a bounce every weekend for Firefox.
Also, what happened in Brazil last September 18??
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-BR-daily-20080701-20090707 [statcounter.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614243</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613993</id>
	<title>It's the iPhOnE!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246961160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>cos IE doesn't run on iPhone!</htmltext>
<tokenext>cos IE does n't run on iPhone !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>cos IE doesn't run on iPhone!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28620133</id>
	<title>Large Credit Union - Stats</title>
	<author>LanMan04</author>
	<datestamp>1247060040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I work for a large Credit Union; our site gets about 23,000 visits per day, and is obviously not a "tech" site.  2nd quarter 2009 stats:</p><p>IE: 76.98\%<br>FF: 18.39\%<br>Safari: 3.24\%</p><p>So maybe we have farther to go that people suspect.  But given our completely non-tech-savvy visitors, FF at almost 20\% is amazing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I work for a large Credit Union ; our site gets about 23,000 visits per day , and is obviously not a " tech " site .
2nd quarter 2009 stats : IE : 76.98 \ % FF : 18.39 \ % Safari : 3.24 \ % So maybe we have farther to go that people suspect .
But given our completely non-tech-savvy visitors , FF at almost 20 \ % is amazing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work for a large Credit Union; our site gets about 23,000 visits per day, and is obviously not a "tech" site.
2nd quarter 2009 stats:IE: 76.98\%FF: 18.39\%Safari: 3.24\%So maybe we have farther to go that people suspect.
But given our completely non-tech-savvy visitors, FF at almost 20\% is amazing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615093</id>
	<title>Now...</title>
	<author>interval1066</author>
	<datestamp>1246965780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...if the rest of the web developers who rely on "Silverlight" or Cracktive-X or some other M$-centric technology and worry more about making the web truly platform agnostic we can get on with it and get some business done. I really dislike having to switch from Lynx or Firefox to IE becuase the e-commerce site relies on some stupid feature of IE that no one's been able to translate to the OSS browsers. Happens once in a while, still annoying.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...if the rest of the web developers who rely on " Silverlight " or Cracktive-X or some other M $ -centric technology and worry more about making the web truly platform agnostic we can get on with it and get some business done .
I really dislike having to switch from Lynx or Firefox to IE becuase the e-commerce site relies on some stupid feature of IE that no one 's been able to translate to the OSS browsers .
Happens once in a while , still annoying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...if the rest of the web developers who rely on "Silverlight" or Cracktive-X or some other M$-centric technology and worry more about making the web truly platform agnostic we can get on with it and get some business done.
I really dislike having to switch from Lynx or Firefox to IE becuase the e-commerce site relies on some stupid feature of IE that no one's been able to translate to the OSS browsers.
Happens once in a while, still annoying.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614959</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>Curate</author>
	<datestamp>1246965120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wouldn't you rather come back in 30 days to collect another $250.00?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't you rather come back in 30 days to collect another $ 250.00 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't you rather come back in 30 days to collect another $250.00?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614207</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616953</id>
	<title>It's the economy, stupid!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246979880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The drop in IE use is probably inversely proportional to the rise in unemployment.

</p><p>With millions of people being laid off work, they are surfing at home and using sensible browsers.

</p><p>Only people surfing at work get stuck using IE. My current gig is still using IE6!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The drop in IE use is probably inversely proportional to the rise in unemployment .
With millions of people being laid off work , they are surfing at home and using sensible browsers .
Only people surfing at work get stuck using IE .
My current gig is still using IE6 !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The drop in IE use is probably inversely proportional to the rise in unemployment.
With millions of people being laid off work, they are surfing at home and using sensible browsers.
Only people surfing at work get stuck using IE.
My current gig is still using IE6!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615929</id>
	<title>Re:Slashdot browser shares??</title>
	<author>Eberlin</author>
	<datestamp>1246970940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>CowboyNeal Reads Slashdot Stories To Me (and also does my math): 40.33\%</htmltext>
<tokenext>CowboyNeal Reads Slashdot Stories To Me ( and also does my math ) : 40.33 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CowboyNeal Reads Slashdot Stories To Me (and also does my math): 40.33\%</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28621635</id>
	<title>Re:Skeptical</title>
	<author>skeeto</author>
	<datestamp>1247065860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If it didn't suck so much it also wouldn't matter so much to have alternatives be popular. Because it's, by far, the worst non-niche browser <i>and</i> at the same time the most popular it does so much harm to the web.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it did n't suck so much it also would n't matter so much to have alternatives be popular .
Because it 's , by far , the worst non-niche browser and at the same time the most popular it does so much harm to the web .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it didn't suck so much it also wouldn't matter so much to have alternatives be popular.
Because it's, by far, the worst non-niche browser and at the same time the most popular it does so much harm to the web.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614127</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614491</id>
	<title>Re:typo in summary</title>
	<author>terraformer</author>
	<datestamp>1246963080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Linux PC: $400
Monthly Internet fee: $50
You finally get a lead story published on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. and it has a typo: Priceless</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux PC : $ 400 Monthly Internet fee : $ 50 You finally get a lead story published on / .
and it has a typo : Priceless</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux PC: $400
Monthly Internet fee: $50
You finally get a lead story published on /.
and it has a typo: Priceless</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613949</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28617653</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246986240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>It always takes a while to educate the whole population with regards to technical stuff, after a while, it becomes public knowledge although<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)))</p></div><p>The tough part isn't making it public knowledge, the difficulty is in making it common knowledge.</p><p>To compare this to more sinister things: Notice of your house being demolished on Tuesday can be put up in a dark cellar with no stairs at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory of the planning office guarded by a Leopard. This is public knowledge.</p><p>Making a news cast on the fact a new road is being run through your neighbourhood and personally notifying everyone whose house will be demolished is much more difficult. This is common knowlege.</p></div><p>Are you, sir, by any chance, a Vogon?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It always takes a while to educate the whole population with regards to technical stuff , after a while , it becomes public knowledge although ; - ) ) ) The tough part is n't making it public knowledge , the difficulty is in making it common knowledge.To compare this to more sinister things : Notice of your house being demolished on Tuesday can be put up in a dark cellar with no stairs at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory of the planning office guarded by a Leopard .
This is public knowledge.Making a news cast on the fact a new road is being run through your neighbourhood and personally notifying everyone whose house will be demolished is much more difficult .
This is common knowlege.Are you , sir , by any chance , a Vogon ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It always takes a while to educate the whole population with regards to technical stuff, after a while, it becomes public knowledge although ;-)))The tough part isn't making it public knowledge, the difficulty is in making it common knowledge.To compare this to more sinister things: Notice of your house being demolished on Tuesday can be put up in a dark cellar with no stairs at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory of the planning office guarded by a Leopard.
This is public knowledge.Making a news cast on the fact a new road is being run through your neighbourhood and personally notifying everyone whose house will be demolished is much more difficult.
This is common knowlege.Are you, sir, by any chance, a Vogon?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614183</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615609</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>Razalhague</author>
	<datestamp>1246969080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Uhh... Mozilla/5.0? Don't pretty much all browsers other than IE and Opera report as a type of Mozilla/5.0?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uhh... Mozilla/5.0 ? Do n't pretty much all browsers other than IE and Opera report as a type of Mozilla/5.0 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uhh... Mozilla/5.0? Don't pretty much all browsers other than IE and Opera report as a type of Mozilla/5.0?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614055</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614343</id>
	<title>My stats</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246962540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>Ok, I've just checked my stats for my site, which is reasonably high-traffic but a geology/earth-sciences site so it may be skewed with a large percentage of university campus access - so please don't read too much into the figures, but it still makes interesting reading:<br><br>7/09 is of course July 2009 and the earliest stats I have is March 2005. Note that earlier stats also had a few \% for Mozilla which I haven't added to the Firefox total, so it's simply Firefox v IE v Safari v Chrome.<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 7/09&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1/09&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;7/08&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1/08&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;7/07&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;3/05<br>IE&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 65.9\%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;68.5\%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 73.7\%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;74.2\%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 75.4\%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;--- -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 83.4\%<br>Firefox&nbsp; &nbsp;22.6\%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;21.2\%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 19.2\%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;15.3\%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 14.6\%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;6.1\%<br>Safari&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;4.6\%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4.8\%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;2.9\%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2.5\%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;2.2\%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0.8\%<br>Chrome&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;2.3\%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0.1\%&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;-<br><br>So, not exactly a dramatic falloff, but certainly a trend that's continuing to give bad news to Microsoft.</tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , I 've just checked my stats for my site , which is reasonably high-traffic but a geology/earth-sciences site so it may be skewed with a large percentage of university campus access - so please do n't read too much into the figures , but it still makes interesting reading : 7/09 is of course July 2009 and the earliest stats I have is March 2005 .
Note that earlier stats also had a few \ % for Mozilla which I have n't added to the Firefox total , so it 's simply Firefox v IE v Safari v Chrome.           7/09         1/09             7/08         1/08             7/07                             3/05IE         65.9 \ %         68.5 \ %           73.7 \ %         74.2 \ %           75.4 \ %               --- -         83.4 \ % Firefox     22.6 \ %         21.2 \ %           19.2 \ %         15.3 \ %           14.6 \ %                             6.1 \ % Safari       4.6 \ %         4.8 \ %             2.9 \ %         2.5 \ %             2.2 \ %                             0.8 \ % Chrome       2.3 \ %         0.1 \ %             -             -So , not exactly a dramatic falloff , but certainly a trend that 's continuing to give bad news to Microsoft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, I've just checked my stats for my site, which is reasonably high-traffic but a geology/earth-sciences site so it may be skewed with a large percentage of university campus access - so please don't read too much into the figures, but it still makes interesting reading:7/09 is of course July 2009 and the earliest stats I have is March 2005.
Note that earlier stats also had a few \% for Mozilla which I haven't added to the Firefox total, so it's simply Firefox v IE v Safari v Chrome.          7/09        1/09           7/08        1/08           7/07                           3/05IE        65.9\%       68.5\%          73.7\%       74.2\%          75.4\%             --- -        83.4\%Firefox   22.6\%       21.2\%          19.2\%       15.3\%          14.6\%                           6.1\%Safari     4.6\%        4.8\%           2.9\%        2.5\%           2.2\%                           0.8\%Chrome     2.3\%        0.1\%            -           -So, not exactly a dramatic falloff, but certainly a trend that's continuing to give bad news to Microsoft.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614539</id>
	<title>As long as techs give the same advice I do</title>
	<author>Master of Transhuman</author>
	<datestamp>1246963380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>which is to avoid using IE and use Firefox, I suspect this trend will continue.</p><p>Every tech knows that most spyware comes in via ActiveX controls on IE (or stupid users clicking on crap, which is probably more responsible than IE itself). Regardless of what improvements Microsoft has made in IE7 and IE8, my advice - and likely that of every other tech in the industry - will be for organizations and home users to avoid using IE and only use Firefox. That and not clicking on crap are the two main things users can do to avoid spyware.</p><p>This drop in IE usage, if confirmed, is almost certainly due to the penetration into "common wisdom" that IE is insecure. Even home users I get as clients these days are usually using Firefox.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>which is to avoid using IE and use Firefox , I suspect this trend will continue.Every tech knows that most spyware comes in via ActiveX controls on IE ( or stupid users clicking on crap , which is probably more responsible than IE itself ) .
Regardless of what improvements Microsoft has made in IE7 and IE8 , my advice - and likely that of every other tech in the industry - will be for organizations and home users to avoid using IE and only use Firefox .
That and not clicking on crap are the two main things users can do to avoid spyware.This drop in IE usage , if confirmed , is almost certainly due to the penetration into " common wisdom " that IE is insecure .
Even home users I get as clients these days are usually using Firefox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>which is to avoid using IE and use Firefox, I suspect this trend will continue.Every tech knows that most spyware comes in via ActiveX controls on IE (or stupid users clicking on crap, which is probably more responsible than IE itself).
Regardless of what improvements Microsoft has made in IE7 and IE8, my advice - and likely that of every other tech in the industry - will be for organizations and home users to avoid using IE and only use Firefox.
That and not clicking on crap are the two main things users can do to avoid spyware.This drop in IE usage, if confirmed, is almost certainly due to the penetration into "common wisdom" that IE is insecure.
Even home users I get as clients these days are usually using Firefox.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614289</id>
	<title>Matches my numbers</title>
	<author>dogmatixpsych</author>
	<datestamp>1246962300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>While my various sites (blogs) are all relatively low-traffic, I consistently run at about 56\% IE with the rest dominated by Firefox and Safari (although some sites have a lot more Firefox traffic than IE traffic).</htmltext>
<tokenext>While my various sites ( blogs ) are all relatively low-traffic , I consistently run at about 56 \ % IE with the rest dominated by Firefox and Safari ( although some sites have a lot more Firefox traffic than IE traffic ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While my various sites (blogs) are all relatively low-traffic, I consistently run at about 56\% IE with the rest dominated by Firefox and Safari (although some sites have a lot more Firefox traffic than IE traffic).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614011</id>
	<title>Not Surprising</title>
	<author>gubers33</author>
	<datestamp>1246961280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mozilla has grabbed a large portion of the market share and the explosion in Mac purchases has increased the use of Safari. The third browser which is taking many of the users away is Google's Chrome which is probably the most innovative of all of the browsers with many neat features which include interaction between windows, the most customization of any of the browsers in terms of placement of objects as well as bringing users unmatched speed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mozilla has grabbed a large portion of the market share and the explosion in Mac purchases has increased the use of Safari .
The third browser which is taking many of the users away is Google 's Chrome which is probably the most innovative of all of the browsers with many neat features which include interaction between windows , the most customization of any of the browsers in terms of placement of objects as well as bringing users unmatched speed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mozilla has grabbed a large portion of the market share and the explosion in Mac purchases has increased the use of Safari.
The third browser which is taking many of the users away is Google's Chrome which is probably the most innovative of all of the browsers with many neat features which include interaction between windows, the most customization of any of the browsers in terms of placement of objects as well as bringing users unmatched speed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614103</id>
	<title>It's because IE 6 support was droped on some sites</title>
	<author>denis-The-menace</author>
	<datestamp>1246961580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are a few sites where IE 6.0 displays things badly because the web master stopped kludging for it.</p><p>Slashdot.org<br>some parts of Google.<br>(Help me here!)</p><p>Joe-six paks noticed this and has found out that he has options...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are a few sites where IE 6.0 displays things badly because the web master stopped kludging for it.Slashdot.orgsome parts of Google .
( Help me here !
) Joe-six paks noticed this and has found out that he has options.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are a few sites where IE 6.0 displays things badly because the web master stopped kludging for it.Slashdot.orgsome parts of Google.
(Help me here!
)Joe-six paks noticed this and has found out that he has options...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614421</id>
	<title>I hope so!</title>
	<author>Abalamahalamatandra</author>
	<datestamp>1246962840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I tell everyone I know, along with everyone I work with, that surfing anything but internal corporate sites with Internet Exploder is the same thing as saying "take my machine, please!" to the world at large.  Since I'm in charge of security infrastructure for a nationwide company with over 10K employees, I get listened to a bit more than your average geek.  I'm single-handedly responsible for at least 30-40 people, if not more, switching to Firefox over the last 6 months, I'm quite sure.<br>
<br>
The current ActiveX video 0-day, plus the <a href="http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=6739" title="sans.org">constantly-updated</a> [sans.org] list of sites that are actively exploiting it, is perfect proof that you're a fool to surf with IE.<br>
<br>
You're also a fool to run Windows XP on a daily basis, but that's another topic.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I tell everyone I know , along with everyone I work with , that surfing anything but internal corporate sites with Internet Exploder is the same thing as saying " take my machine , please !
" to the world at large .
Since I 'm in charge of security infrastructure for a nationwide company with over 10K employees , I get listened to a bit more than your average geek .
I 'm single-handedly responsible for at least 30-40 people , if not more , switching to Firefox over the last 6 months , I 'm quite sure .
The current ActiveX video 0-day , plus the constantly-updated [ sans.org ] list of sites that are actively exploiting it , is perfect proof that you 're a fool to surf with IE .
You 're also a fool to run Windows XP on a daily basis , but that 's another topic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tell everyone I know, along with everyone I work with, that surfing anything but internal corporate sites with Internet Exploder is the same thing as saying "take my machine, please!
" to the world at large.
Since I'm in charge of security infrastructure for a nationwide company with over 10K employees, I get listened to a bit more than your average geek.
I'm single-handedly responsible for at least 30-40 people, if not more, switching to Firefox over the last 6 months, I'm quite sure.
The current ActiveX video 0-day, plus the constantly-updated [sans.org] list of sites that are actively exploiting it, is perfect proof that you're a fool to surf with IE.
You're also a fool to run Windows XP on a daily basis, but that's another topic.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28617007</id>
	<title>IE 6 support for Ajax is bad</title>
	<author>flyingfsck</author>
	<datestamp>1246980540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>IE is bad with Ajax sites for example Citadel email.</htmltext>
<tokenext>IE is bad with Ajax sites for example Citadel email .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IE is bad with Ajax sites for example Citadel email.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614103</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614285</id>
	<title>Re:Not Surprising</title>
	<author>asa</author>
	<datestamp>1246962300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Chrome has been available for about 9 months and it's managed to carve out about 2\% of Web browser usage. It got about 1/3rd of that in only days after release.  It's not "taking many users away" from IE unless by many you mean about half as many as Firefox has in the same time period.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Chrome has been available for about 9 months and it 's managed to carve out about 2 \ % of Web browser usage .
It got about 1/3rd of that in only days after release .
It 's not " taking many users away " from IE unless by many you mean about half as many as Firefox has in the same time period .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Chrome has been available for about 9 months and it's managed to carve out about 2\% of Web browser usage.
It got about 1/3rd of that in only days after release.
It's not "taking many users away" from IE unless by many you mean about half as many as Firefox has in the same time period.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614011</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615317</id>
	<title>Can't trust the User-Agent string</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246967340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pffft.  That doesn't mean the stats for IE are *really* that low.  People are probably forging their IE User-Agent string to "Mozilla/5.0<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....etc." to get greater compatibility from web sites that are Firefox-only.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pffft .
That does n't mean the stats for IE are * really * that low .
People are probably forging their IE User-Agent string to " Mozilla/5.0 ....etc .
" to get greater compatibility from web sites that are Firefox-only .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pffft.
That doesn't mean the stats for IE are *really* that low.
People are probably forging their IE User-Agent string to "Mozilla/5.0 ....etc.
" to get greater compatibility from web sites that are Firefox-only.
:-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615619</id>
	<title>IE8 is a mixed bag</title>
	<author>rdean400</author>
	<datestamp>1246969080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I appreciate the improvement in standards support (though it still lags the competition considerably).  For some reason, when I try to visit certain sites from my work PC, IE 8 will crash in urlmon.dll unless I have those sites in my Trusted Sites list.  I'm only using it on that PC because I'm validating several applications against it -- I otherwise use FireFox or Chrome.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I appreciate the improvement in standards support ( though it still lags the competition considerably ) .
For some reason , when I try to visit certain sites from my work PC , IE 8 will crash in urlmon.dll unless I have those sites in my Trusted Sites list .
I 'm only using it on that PC because I 'm validating several applications against it -- I otherwise use FireFox or Chrome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I appreciate the improvement in standards support (though it still lags the competition considerably).
For some reason, when I try to visit certain sites from my work PC, IE 8 will crash in urlmon.dll unless I have those sites in my Trusted Sites list.
I'm only using it on that PC because I'm validating several applications against it -- I otherwise use FireFox or Chrome.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614195</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>bestadvocate</author>
	<datestamp>1246961820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you have usage rates from a prior date for comparison?  All websites have their crowds (I bet Slashdot gets more than its fair share of minority browsers).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you have usage rates from a prior date for comparison ?
All websites have their crowds ( I bet Slashdot gets more than its fair share of minority browsers ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you have usage rates from a prior date for comparison?
All websites have their crowds (I bet Slashdot gets more than its fair share of minority browsers).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614055</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613977</id>
	<title>Proliferation of mobile browsers...</title>
	<author>seramar</author>
	<datestamp>1246961160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>...could explain this, at least partially. All things combined and considered I am not suprised that IE is accounting for only 56\% of browsers reported. Were we limited to desktop only, that might be different.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...could explain this , at least partially .
All things combined and considered I am not suprised that IE is accounting for only 56 \ % of browsers reported .
Were we limited to desktop only , that might be different .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...could explain this, at least partially.
All things combined and considered I am not suprised that IE is accounting for only 56\% of browsers reported.
Were we limited to desktop only, that might be different.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614977</id>
	<title>Germany!</title>
	<author>yet-another-lobbyist</author>
	<datestamp>1246965180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just went to the statcounter.com page and looked at Germany. I always knew Germans liked Firefox, but look at these shocking numbers: #1 Firefox 3 (52\%), #2 IE7 (22\%), #3 IE6 (8\%), #4 Firefox 2 (5\%)!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just went to the statcounter.com page and looked at Germany .
I always knew Germans liked Firefox , but look at these shocking numbers : # 1 Firefox 3 ( 52 \ % ) , # 2 IE7 ( 22 \ % ) , # 3 IE6 ( 8 \ % ) , # 4 Firefox 2 ( 5 \ % ) !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just went to the statcounter.com page and looked at Germany.
I always knew Germans liked Firefox, but look at these shocking numbers: #1 Firefox 3 (52\%), #2 IE7 (22\%), #3 IE6 (8\%), #4 Firefox 2 (5\%)!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613975</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618553</id>
	<title>mozilla firefox typo</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246995660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>a 12.5\% drop</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>a 12.5 \ % drop</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a 12.5\% drop</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618337</id>
	<title>Re:My Stats Disagree</title>
	<author>anomalous cohort</author>
	<datestamp>1246993680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I saw a 10\% drop in my stats this past month but I have seen such drops before and the IE stats come back in subsequent months. My wife still uses IE and I  have noticed that she complains more about browser crashes than she used to. I have set windows update on her machine to automatic for critical updates. If that perception was shared by others, then I could see a precipitous drop in IE usage in the future.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I saw a 10 \ % drop in my stats this past month but I have seen such drops before and the IE stats come back in subsequent months .
My wife still uses IE and I have noticed that she complains more about browser crashes than she used to .
I have set windows update on her machine to automatic for critical updates .
If that perception was shared by others , then I could see a precipitous drop in IE usage in the future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I saw a 10\% drop in my stats this past month but I have seen such drops before and the IE stats come back in subsequent months.
My wife still uses IE and I  have noticed that she complains more about browser crashes than she used to.
I have set windows update on her machine to automatic for critical updates.
If that perception was shared by others, then I could see a precipitous drop in IE usage in the future.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614541</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28617099</id>
	<title>Re:It's because IE 6 support was droped on some si</title>
	<author>trawg</author>
	<datestamp>1246981440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We stopped supporting it on our site - www.ausgamers.com. If you go to it in IE6 you get a big fat warning at the top advising you to upgrade along with a link to Firefox.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We stopped supporting it on our site - www.ausgamers.com .
If you go to it in IE6 you get a big fat warning at the top advising you to upgrade along with a link to Firefox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We stopped supporting it on our site - www.ausgamers.com.
If you go to it in IE6 you get a big fat warning at the top advising you to upgrade along with a link to Firefox.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614103</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614203</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>Dr\_Ken</author>
	<datestamp>1246961880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Same with my sites too. Factor out the cellphone users and you get a whole different set of numbers. I doubt if Redmond is sweating it more than usual. But their Black Swan nemesis is probably coming...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Same with my sites too .
Factor out the cellphone users and you get a whole different set of numbers .
I doubt if Redmond is sweating it more than usual .
But their Black Swan nemesis is probably coming.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Same with my sites too.
Factor out the cellphone users and you get a whole different set of numbers.
I doubt if Redmond is sweating it more than usual.
But their Black Swan nemesis is probably coming...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614055</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615435</id>
	<title>Re:hmm.... it's summer?</title>
	<author>segfault7375</author>
	<datestamp>1246968060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But I would think most geeks take a laptop on vacation (hell, I took mine on my honeymoon).  So Firefox's share wouldn't fall so much as shift to popular European vacation spots.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But I would think most geeks take a laptop on vacation ( hell , I took mine on my honeymoon ) .
So Firefox 's share would n't fall so much as shift to popular European vacation spots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I would think most geeks take a laptop on vacation (hell, I took mine on my honeymoon).
So Firefox's share wouldn't fall so much as shift to popular European vacation spots.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614581</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614457</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>amicusNYCL</author>
	<datestamp>1246962960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really doubt there are many people spoofing their user agent.  Opera made that easy to do, but not a lot of people even use Opera, let alone using Opera while spoofing IE.  I doubt many Firefox users are spoofing IE also, Firefox is big enough that nearly any website that works in IE also works in Firefox (if I find a site that doesn't work in Opera, like GoDaddy's stupid nameserver update process, I try it in Firefox before IE).</p><p>So, my point is that there's no reason to believe that a statistically significant number of users are actually spoofing their user agent string.  It's possible to do, but there's no reason to believe people are actually doing it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really doubt there are many people spoofing their user agent .
Opera made that easy to do , but not a lot of people even use Opera , let alone using Opera while spoofing IE .
I doubt many Firefox users are spoofing IE also , Firefox is big enough that nearly any website that works in IE also works in Firefox ( if I find a site that does n't work in Opera , like GoDaddy 's stupid nameserver update process , I try it in Firefox before IE ) .So , my point is that there 's no reason to believe that a statistically significant number of users are actually spoofing their user agent string .
It 's possible to do , but there 's no reason to believe people are actually doing it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really doubt there are many people spoofing their user agent.
Opera made that easy to do, but not a lot of people even use Opera, let alone using Opera while spoofing IE.
I doubt many Firefox users are spoofing IE also, Firefox is big enough that nearly any website that works in IE also works in Firefox (if I find a site that doesn't work in Opera, like GoDaddy's stupid nameserver update process, I try it in Firefox before IE).So, my point is that there's no reason to believe that a statistically significant number of users are actually spoofing their user agent string.
It's possible to do, but there's no reason to believe people are actually doing it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614147</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618017</id>
	<title>Google Apps and IE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246989540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had to stop using IE because it is running slow on Google Apps. And I keep getting JS errors. Switched to chrome and it's like the browser was designed for those apps. Wait, was it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had to stop using IE because it is running slow on Google Apps .
And I keep getting JS errors .
Switched to chrome and it 's like the browser was designed for those apps .
Wait , was it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had to stop using IE because it is running slow on Google Apps.
And I keep getting JS errors.
Switched to chrome and it's like the browser was designed for those apps.
Wait, was it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614863</id>
	<title>OS shift?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246964700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is this a shift from WIndows to Mac as well? Microsoft hasn't made a version of IE for the Mac in many years. A lot more Macs have been sold and IE 4 is too old and insecure to use on a Mac.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this a shift from WIndows to Mac as well ?
Microsoft has n't made a version of IE for the Mac in many years .
A lot more Macs have been sold and IE 4 is too old and insecure to use on a Mac .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this a shift from WIndows to Mac as well?
Microsoft hasn't made a version of IE for the Mac in many years.
A lot more Macs have been sold and IE 4 is too old and insecure to use on a Mac.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614701</id>
	<title>Re:Segment and conquer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246964040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>More interestingly, you can really see that the new key markets strategy the Spread Firefox campaign has kicked off is <a href="http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser\_version-an-daily-20080701-20090707-bar" title="statcounter.com" rel="nofollow">really paying off</a> [statcounter.com].</p></div><p>with their overwhelming majority of users, that puts them at 5 people?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>More interestingly , you can really see that the new key markets strategy the Spread Firefox campaign has kicked off is really paying off [ statcounter.com ] .with their overwhelming majority of users , that puts them at 5 people ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More interestingly, you can really see that the new key markets strategy the Spread Firefox campaign has kicked off is really paying off [statcounter.com].with their overwhelming majority of users, that puts them at 5 people?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613975</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28617343</id>
	<title>Re:Slashdot browser shares??</title>
	<author>Eevee</author>
	<datestamp>1246983780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>No browser - use wget to mail the page back: 0.00001\%</htmltext>
<tokenext>No browser - use wget to mail the page back : 0.00001 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No browser - use wget to mail the page back: 0.00001\%</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614887</id>
	<title>A little but very minor</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246964760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The site I run is attractive to older crowds so I expect it to move with the speed of frozen molassas.  Here are some numbers with a sum total of all versions for each:<br>May 2009<br>MSIE: 70\%<br>Firefox:  23\%<br>Safari: 6\%<br>Chrome: Just shy of 1\%<br>Opera: 8 users.<br>Lynx: 1 - Who the heck is that?</p><p>June 2009<br>MSIE: 69\%<br>Firefox: 24\%<br>Rest unchanged.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The site I run is attractive to older crowds so I expect it to move with the speed of frozen molassas .
Here are some numbers with a sum total of all versions for each : May 2009MSIE : 70 \ % Firefox : 23 \ % Safari : 6 \ % Chrome : Just shy of 1 \ % Opera : 8 users.Lynx : 1 - Who the heck is that ? June 2009MSIE : 69 \ % Firefox : 24 \ % Rest unchanged .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The site I run is attractive to older crowds so I expect it to move with the speed of frozen molassas.
Here are some numbers with a sum total of all versions for each:May 2009MSIE: 70\%Firefox:  23\%Safari: 6\%Chrome: Just shy of 1\%Opera: 8 users.Lynx: 1 - Who the heck is that?June 2009MSIE: 69\%Firefox: 24\%Rest unchanged.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616949</id>
	<title>It's the Linux figures...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246979820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the statistical anomaly was more about Linux's share dropping from 1\% to 0.50 (a 50\% drop!). But no, we couldn't possibly bring THAT up on Slashdot, could we?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the statistical anomaly was more about Linux 's share dropping from 1 \ % to 0.50 ( a 50 \ % drop ! ) .
But no , we could n't possibly bring THAT up on Slashdot , could we ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the statistical anomaly was more about Linux's share dropping from 1\% to 0.50 (a 50\% drop!).
But no, we couldn't possibly bring THAT up on Slashdot, could we?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615099</id>
	<title>Re:It's because IE 6 support was droped on some si</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1246965840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are Joe Sixpacks on <em>my</em> Slashdot?</p><p>Ewww! Kill 'em with fire!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are Joe Sixpacks on my Slashdot ? Ewww !
Kill 'em with fire !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are Joe Sixpacks on my Slashdot?Ewww!
Kill 'em with fire!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614103</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28619651</id>
	<title>Re:w3schools doesn't show anything</title>
	<author>pbhj</author>
	<datestamp>1247055060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> it shows Firefox dropping for the first time since September of last year (when Chrome was initially released), but only half a percentage point.  IE7 is losing ground to IE8 rather quickly, but IE6 actually gained a half a percentage point since May.</p> </div><p>Unless this is actually a nightmare and not RL then IE6 didn't gain any extra users.</p><p>In the UK and across Europe colleges and universities have now closed for the summer, maybe some schools (under-16s) too?. If these users are generally using Firefox then that would probably account for FFs loss, the total userbase shrinking would then account for IE6s apparent gain?</p><p>The same blip doesn't appear to show for June last year though so I'm probably wrong.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>it shows Firefox dropping for the first time since September of last year ( when Chrome was initially released ) , but only half a percentage point .
IE7 is losing ground to IE8 rather quickly , but IE6 actually gained a half a percentage point since May .
Unless this is actually a nightmare and not RL then IE6 did n't gain any extra users.In the UK and across Europe colleges and universities have now closed for the summer , maybe some schools ( under-16s ) too ? .
If these users are generally using Firefox then that would probably account for FFs loss , the total userbase shrinking would then account for IE6s apparent gain ? The same blip does n't appear to show for June last year though so I 'm probably wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> it shows Firefox dropping for the first time since September of last year (when Chrome was initially released), but only half a percentage point.
IE7 is losing ground to IE8 rather quickly, but IE6 actually gained a half a percentage point since May.
Unless this is actually a nightmare and not RL then IE6 didn't gain any extra users.In the UK and across Europe colleges and universities have now closed for the summer, maybe some schools (under-16s) too?.
If these users are generally using Firefox then that would probably account for FFs loss, the total userbase shrinking would then account for IE6s apparent gain?The same blip doesn't appear to show for June last year though so I'm probably wrong.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614535</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614541</id>
	<title>My Stats Disagree</title>
	<author>Bill Dimm</author>
	<datestamp>1246963380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The stats for <a href="http://www.magportal.com/" title="magportal.com">MagPortal.com</a> [magportal.com] (should be fairly unbiased) are not showing a drop in MSIE of that magnitude.  Here is a comparison going from the last week in May to the first week in July:</p><p>MSIE: 66.10\% -&gt; 64.34\%<br>Firefox: 25.71\% -&gt; 27.41\%<br>Safari: 5.90\% -&gt; 5.61\%<br>Chrome: 2.29\% -&gt; 2.65\%</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The stats for MagPortal.com [ magportal.com ] ( should be fairly unbiased ) are not showing a drop in MSIE of that magnitude .
Here is a comparison going from the last week in May to the first week in July : MSIE : 66.10 \ % - &gt; 64.34 \ % Firefox : 25.71 \ % - &gt; 27.41 \ % Safari : 5.90 \ % - &gt; 5.61 \ % Chrome : 2.29 \ % - &gt; 2.65 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The stats for MagPortal.com [magportal.com] (should be fairly unbiased) are not showing a drop in MSIE of that magnitude.
Here is a comparison going from the last week in May to the first week in July:MSIE: 66.10\% -&gt; 64.34\%Firefox: 25.71\% -&gt; 27.41\%Safari: 5.90\% -&gt; 5.61\%Chrome: 2.29\% -&gt; 2.65\%</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28625899</id>
	<title>750,000+ visitor sample last two months and year</title>
	<author>jwhitener</author>
	<datestamp>1247080800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google analytics for our community college website.  I do see IE trending down over time, but no large jump from last month to this month.</p><p>Jun 7th through July 7th 2009<br>1.     Internet Explorer--459,138 --59.99\%<br>2.     Firefox--226,804--29.64\%<br>3.     Safari--60,745 --7.94\%<br>4.     Chrome--13,584--1.77\%</p><p>May 7th through Jun 7th 2009<br>1.     Internet Explorer--572,732--60.80\%<br>2.     Firefox--293,206--31.13\%<br>3.     Safari--57,168--6.07\%<br>4.     Chrome--12,858--1.36\%</p><p>May 7th through Jun 7th 2008<br>1.     Internet Explorer--577,544--70.07\%<br>2.     Firefox--199,085--24.15\%<br>3.     Safari--41,548--5.04\%<br>4.     Mozilla--3,766--0.46\%</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google analytics for our community college website .
I do see IE trending down over time , but no large jump from last month to this month.Jun 7th through July 7th 20091 .
Internet Explorer--459,138 --59.99 \ % 2 .
Firefox--226,804--29.64 \ % 3. Safari--60,745 --7.94 \ % 4 .
Chrome--13,584--1.77 \ % May 7th through Jun 7th 20091 .
Internet Explorer--572,732--60.80 \ % 2 .
Firefox--293,206--31.13 \ % 3. Safari--57,168--6.07 \ % 4 .
Chrome--12,858--1.36 \ % May 7th through Jun 7th 20081 .
Internet Explorer--577,544--70.07 \ % 2 .
Firefox--199,085--24.15 \ % 3. Safari--41,548--5.04 \ % 4 .
Mozilla--3,766--0.46 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google analytics for our community college website.
I do see IE trending down over time, but no large jump from last month to this month.Jun 7th through July 7th 20091.
Internet Explorer--459,138 --59.99\%2.
Firefox--226,804--29.64\%3.     Safari--60,745 --7.94\%4.
Chrome--13,584--1.77\%May 7th through Jun 7th 20091.
Internet Explorer--572,732--60.80\%2.
Firefox--293,206--31.13\%3.     Safari--57,168--6.07\%4.
Chrome--12,858--1.36\%May 7th through Jun 7th 20081.
Internet Explorer--577,544--70.07\%2.
Firefox--199,085--24.15\%3.     Safari--41,548--5.04\%4.
Mozilla--3,766--0.46\%</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614643</id>
	<title>This report removes mobile browsers</title>
	<author>caffeinejolt</author>
	<datestamp>1246963860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.statowl.com/web\_browser\_market\_share.php" title="statowl.com" rel="nofollow">The StatOwl.com guys have their reports updated for this month</a> [statowl.com].  I know one of the guys who runs it and he mentioned they have been working on a bunch of mobile reports to handle just the mobile data.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The StatOwl.com guys have their reports updated for this month [ statowl.com ] .
I know one of the guys who runs it and he mentioned they have been working on a bunch of mobile reports to handle just the mobile data .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The StatOwl.com guys have their reports updated for this month [statowl.com].
I know one of the guys who runs it and he mentioned they have been working on a bunch of mobile reports to handle just the mobile data.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28635859</id>
	<title>Re:w3schools doesn't show anything</title>
	<author>mcfedr</author>
	<datestamp>1247151660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>surely most of the people using w3schools are the people with every browser under the sun on their computer, which will make there stats really weird</htmltext>
<tokenext>surely most of the people using w3schools are the people with every browser under the sun on their computer , which will make there stats really weird</tokentext>
<sentencetext>surely most of the people using w3schools are the people with every browser under the sun on their computer, which will make there stats really weird</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614535</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28620389</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>castironpigeon</author>
	<datestamp>1247061180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>IE 6 does not properly interpret standard HTML/CSS. I don't know how other web developers feel about this, but I refuse to add IE hacks to my code to make it work in IE 6. IE 7 is bug-laden garbage that most people regret installing. If somebody swallows all that and installs IE 8 it's probably because a friend or relative set their computer to automatically download and install all MS updates and IE is part of that package.

Firefox, Opera and Chrome seem to work just fine and interpret standard HTML/CSS.</htmltext>
<tokenext>IE 6 does not properly interpret standard HTML/CSS .
I do n't know how other web developers feel about this , but I refuse to add IE hacks to my code to make it work in IE 6 .
IE 7 is bug-laden garbage that most people regret installing .
If somebody swallows all that and installs IE 8 it 's probably because a friend or relative set their computer to automatically download and install all MS updates and IE is part of that package .
Firefox , Opera and Chrome seem to work just fine and interpret standard HTML/CSS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IE 6 does not properly interpret standard HTML/CSS.
I don't know how other web developers feel about this, but I refuse to add IE hacks to my code to make it work in IE 6.
IE 7 is bug-laden garbage that most people regret installing.
If somebody swallows all that and installs IE 8 it's probably because a friend or relative set their computer to automatically download and install all MS updates and IE is part of that package.
Firefox, Opera and Chrome seem to work just fine and interpret standard HTML/CSS.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614345</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616745</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246977780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>That very closely gels with what I am seeing on our gov site (non technical site with very high traffic volumes). we do 50 million hits a day and firefox is at 13.7\% with IE just over 80\%. Not sure why people are getting such huge numbers for firefox, they honestly don't seem to gel with what large tech agnostic sites are seeing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That very closely gels with what I am seeing on our gov site ( non technical site with very high traffic volumes ) .
we do 50 million hits a day and firefox is at 13.7 \ % with IE just over 80 \ % .
Not sure why people are getting such huge numbers for firefox , they honestly do n't seem to gel with what large tech agnostic sites are seeing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That very closely gels with what I am seeing on our gov site (non technical site with very high traffic volumes).
we do 50 million hits a day and firefox is at 13.7\% with IE just over 80\%.
Not sure why people are getting such huge numbers for firefox, they honestly don't seem to gel with what large tech agnostic sites are seeing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614055</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613949</id>
	<title>typo in summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246961040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hi there, submitter here.  I left a typographical error in the summary.  "in the beginning of June" should read "in the beginning of July".  Oops, sorry about that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi there , submitter here .
I left a typographical error in the summary .
" in the beginning of June " should read " in the beginning of July " .
Oops , sorry about that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi there, submitter here.
I left a typographical error in the summary.
"in the beginning of June" should read "in the beginning of July".
Oops, sorry about that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28617227</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>DECS</author>
	<datestamp>1246982580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mac OS X Leopard, obviously.</p><p><a href="http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/07/06/ogg-theora-h-264-and-the-html-5-browser-squabble/" title="roughlydrafted.com">Ogg Theora, H.264 and the HTML 5 Browser Squabble</a> [roughlydrafted.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mac OS X Leopard , obviously.Ogg Theora , H.264 and the HTML 5 Browser Squabble [ roughlydrafted.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mac OS X Leopard, obviously.Ogg Theora, H.264 and the HTML 5 Browser Squabble [roughlydrafted.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615147</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614401</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246962720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The number of browser users that even know how to spoof their browser's user agent is infinitesimally small. Imagining that it's even enough to break through the noise is silly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The number of browser users that even know how to spoof their browser 's user agent is infinitesimally small .
Imagining that it 's even enough to break through the noise is silly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The number of browser users that even know how to spoof their browser's user agent is infinitesimally small.
Imagining that it's even enough to break through the noise is silly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614147</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614161</id>
	<title>Re:Not Surprising</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246961700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thanks for the Chrome commercial.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks for the Chrome commercial .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks for the Chrome commercial.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614011</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614945</id>
	<title>Numerous Typos</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246965060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>to the benefit of Firerox</i>
<br> <br>
What the hell is Firerox?</htmltext>
<tokenext>to the benefit of Firerox What the hell is Firerox ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to the benefit of Firerox
 
What the hell is Firerox?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28620009</id>
	<title>A better question is....</title>
	<author>kaizendojo</author>
	<datestamp>1247059380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why are these "statistics" reported here every freaking month, despite the fact that they are suspect in their validity and that their collection methods are not open for review or comment?  The statistics that Net Applications collects are based solely on their customer base, and yet despite my pointing this out every time it is posted - the posts continue each month.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are these " statistics " reported here every freaking month , despite the fact that they are suspect in their validity and that their collection methods are not open for review or comment ?
The statistics that Net Applications collects are based solely on their customer base , and yet despite my pointing this out every time it is posted - the posts continue each month .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are these "statistics" reported here every freaking month, despite the fact that they are suspect in their validity and that their collection methods are not open for review or comment?
The statistics that Net Applications collects are based solely on their customer base, and yet despite my pointing this out every time it is posted - the posts continue each month.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28617371</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>FiloEleven</author>
	<datestamp>1246984020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Making a news cast on the fact a new road is being run through your neighbourhood and personally notifying everyone whose house will be demolished is much more difficult. This is common knowlege.</p></div><p>Well, yes.  So why are you telling us, again?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Making a news cast on the fact a new road is being run through your neighbourhood and personally notifying everyone whose house will be demolished is much more difficult .
This is common knowlege.Well , yes .
So why are you telling us , again ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Making a news cast on the fact a new road is being run through your neighbourhood and personally notifying everyone whose house will be demolished is much more difficult.
This is common knowlege.Well, yes.
So why are you telling us, again?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614183</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614379</id>
	<title>I hope someone made screen shots</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246962660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>This report's data is currently under review. It will become available as soon as possible.</p><p>[<a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8" title="hitslink.com" rel="nofollow">http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8</a> [hitslink.com]]</p></div> </blockquote><blockquote><div><p>All reports are reviewed at the beginning of each month to ensure the following:</p><ul>
<li>No data collection errors occurred</li>
<li>There are no major inexplicable statistical variations</li>
</ul><p>All reports that have not been reviewed are prominently labeled with a warning.  If any part of a report's data falls outside the reviewed timeframe, a warning is also displayed.</p><p>[<a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/status.aspx" title="hitslink.com" rel="nofollow">http://marketshare.hitslink.com/status.aspx</a> [hitslink.com]]</p></div> </blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This report 's data is currently under review .
It will become available as soon as possible .
[ http : //marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx ? qprid = 8 [ hitslink.com ] ] All reports are reviewed at the beginning of each month to ensure the following : No data collection errors occurred There are no major inexplicable statistical variations All reports that have not been reviewed are prominently labeled with a warning .
If any part of a report 's data falls outside the reviewed timeframe , a warning is also displayed .
[ http : //marketshare.hitslink.com/status.aspx [ hitslink.com ] ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This report's data is currently under review.
It will become available as soon as possible.
[http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 [hitslink.com]] All reports are reviewed at the beginning of each month to ensure the following:
No data collection errors occurred
There are no major inexplicable statistical variations
All reports that have not been reviewed are prominently labeled with a warning.
If any part of a report's data falls outside the reviewed timeframe, a warning is also displayed.
[http://marketshare.hitslink.com/status.aspx [hitslink.com]] 
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616539</id>
	<title>My retail site</title>
	<author>C\_Kode</author>
	<datestamp>1246976280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My <a href="http://www.chess-boutique.com/" title="chess-boutique.com">http://www.chess-boutique.com/</a> [chess-boutique.com] retail site reports over the last seven days:</p><p>51\% IE<br>40\% FF<br>5\% Chrome<br>3\% Opera<br>2\% Unknown.</p><p>Odd thing is, I haven't gotten a single Safari hit in the last seven days.  Usually it's higher than Opera and sometimes higher than Chrome.  Though Chrome appears to be picking up steam of late.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My http : //www.chess-boutique.com/ [ chess-boutique.com ] retail site reports over the last seven days : 51 \ % IE40 \ % FF5 \ % Chrome3 \ % Opera2 \ % Unknown.Odd thing is , I have n't gotten a single Safari hit in the last seven days .
Usually it 's higher than Opera and sometimes higher than Chrome .
Though Chrome appears to be picking up steam of late .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My http://www.chess-boutique.com/ [chess-boutique.com] retail site reports over the last seven days:51\% IE40\% FF5\% Chrome3\% Opera2\% Unknown.Odd thing is, I haven't gotten a single Safari hit in the last seven days.
Usually it's higher than Opera and sometimes higher than Chrome.
Though Chrome appears to be picking up steam of late.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614309</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>spyka</author>
	<datestamp>1246962360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I run a tech-related site, so Firefox does have an above average share but no major changes in share month to month:<br> <br>

Firefox:<br>
 	 June 6, 2009 - July 6, 2009  	   63.55\%<br>
  	May 6, 2009 - June 5, 2009 	 	63.77\%<br> <br>

Internet Explorer<br>

  	June 6, 2009 - July 6, 2009 		20.83\%<br>
  	May 6, 2009 - June 5, 2009 		21.68\%<br> <br>

Opera<br>

  	June 6, 2009 - July 6, 2009 	 	5.86\%<br>
  	May 6, 2009 - June 5, 2009 		6.48\%<br> <br>

Chrome<br>

  	June 6, 2009 - July 6, 2009 	 	5.62\%<br>
  	May 6, 2009 - June 5, 2009 	5.07\%<br> <br>

Safari<br>

  	June 6, 2009 - July 6, 2009 		3.44\%<br>
  	May 6, 2009 - June 5, 2009 		2.33\%</htmltext>
<tokenext>I run a tech-related site , so Firefox does have an above average share but no major changes in share month to month : Firefox : June 6 , 2009 - July 6 , 2009 63.55 \ % May 6 , 2009 - June 5 , 2009 63.77 \ % Internet Explorer June 6 , 2009 - July 6 , 2009 20.83 \ % May 6 , 2009 - June 5 , 2009 21.68 \ % Opera June 6 , 2009 - July 6 , 2009 5.86 \ % May 6 , 2009 - June 5 , 2009 6.48 \ % Chrome June 6 , 2009 - July 6 , 2009 5.62 \ % May 6 , 2009 - June 5 , 2009 5.07 \ % Safari June 6 , 2009 - July 6 , 2009 3.44 \ % May 6 , 2009 - June 5 , 2009 2.33 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I run a tech-related site, so Firefox does have an above average share but no major changes in share month to month: 

Firefox:
 	 June 6, 2009 - July 6, 2009  	   63.55\%
  	May 6, 2009 - June 5, 2009 	 	63.77\% 

Internet Explorer

  	June 6, 2009 - July 6, 2009 		20.83\%
  	May 6, 2009 - June 5, 2009 		21.68\% 

Opera

  	June 6, 2009 - July 6, 2009 	 	5.86\%
  	May 6, 2009 - June 5, 2009 		6.48\% 

Chrome

  	June 6, 2009 - July 6, 2009 	 	5.62\%
  	May 6, 2009 - June 5, 2009 	5.07\% 

Safari

  	June 6, 2009 - July 6, 2009 		3.44\%
  	May 6, 2009 - June 5, 2009 		2.33\%</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614055</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615741</id>
	<title>Get the Fuck Out!</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1246969860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>56\% of people use IE? My God, that's amazing. Who the hell are these people? I can barely remember the last time I saw somebody using IE.</htmltext>
<tokenext>56 \ % of people use IE ?
My God , that 's amazing .
Who the hell are these people ?
I can barely remember the last time I saw somebody using IE .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>56\% of people use IE?
My God, that's amazing.
Who the hell are these people?
I can barely remember the last time I saw somebody using IE.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28619351</id>
	<title>website stats in UK</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247049660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i just checked 3 sites i look after (admittedly with Google Analytics)<br>1. Uk wide site - for designers/advertising so more Macs used and business, less likely to change browsers<br>
&nbsp; - May: IE 58\%<br>
&nbsp; - June IE 59\%<br>2. Hi Fi Shop Glasgow - more home visitors<br>
&nbsp; - May: IE 65\%<br>
&nbsp; - June IE 60\%<br>3. Pub/Venue London - more home visitors and more tech aware than Glasgow??<br>
&nbsp; - May: IE 53\%<br>
&nbsp; - June IE 50\%</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i just checked 3 sites i look after ( admittedly with Google Analytics ) 1 .
Uk wide site - for designers/advertising so more Macs used and business , less likely to change browsers   - May : IE 58 \ %   - June IE 59 \ % 2 .
Hi Fi Shop Glasgow - more home visitors   - May : IE 65 \ %   - June IE 60 \ % 3 .
Pub/Venue London - more home visitors and more tech aware than Glasgow ? ?
  - May : IE 53 \ %   - June IE 50 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i just checked 3 sites i look after (admittedly with Google Analytics)1.
Uk wide site - for designers/advertising so more Macs used and business, less likely to change browsers
  - May: IE 58\%
  - June IE 59\%2.
Hi Fi Shop Glasgow - more home visitors
  - May: IE 65\%
  - June IE 60\%3.
Pub/Venue London - more home visitors and more tech aware than Glasgow??
  - May: IE 53\%
  - June IE 50\%</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616883</id>
	<title>Re:It's because IE 6 support was droped on some si</title>
	<author>nikanj</author>
	<datestamp>1246979100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Facebook used to show a warning to IE6 users, don't know if they still do</htmltext>
<tokenext>Facebook used to show a warning to IE6 users , do n't know if they still do</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Facebook used to show a warning to IE6 users, don't know if they still do</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614103</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614299</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>The End Of Days</author>
	<datestamp>1246962300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a pretty fair assumption that most people don't know what a user agent is, never mind how to change it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a pretty fair assumption that most people do n't know what a user agent is , never mind how to change it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a pretty fair assumption that most people don't know what a user agent is, never mind how to change it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614147</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615067</id>
	<title>IE on iPhone</title>
	<author>Spy Handler</author>
	<datestamp>1246965660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>wait, I just thought of something: has Microsoft released a version of IE for the iPhone through the Apple App Store? That would be funny...</htmltext>
<tokenext>wait , I just thought of something : has Microsoft released a version of IE for the iPhone through the Apple App Store ?
That would be funny.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wait, I just thought of something: has Microsoft released a version of IE for the iPhone through the Apple App Store?
That would be funny...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613993</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614615</id>
	<title>Re:MJ Factor, plus, it is summer</title>
	<author>divisionbyzero</author>
	<datestamp>1246963680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Surely these students surf the web from home?  Are you suggesting many of them use FF et alia?  If so, I'd say schools and universities skew the results up for IE, because when these folks are in the real world they will be using something other than IE.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Surely these students surf the web from home ?
Are you suggesting many of them use FF et alia ?
If so , I 'd say schools and universities skew the results up for IE , because when these folks are in the real world they will be using something other than IE .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surely these students surf the web from home?
Are you suggesting many of them use FF et alia?
If so, I'd say schools and universities skew the results up for IE, because when these folks are in the real world they will be using something other than IE.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614243</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28624035</id>
	<title>Stats for www.managerleague.com</title>
	<author>chrislas</author>
	<datestamp>1247074440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I run a web-based online football manager game, and for July, I see:<br>40.19\%     Firefox 3<br>30.05\%     Internet Explorer 7.0<br>8.01\%     Internet Explorer 6.0<br>6.37\%     Opera 9<br>5.95\%     Chrome<br>4.49\%     Internet Explorer 8.0<br>1.95\%     Safari<br>1.65\%     Firefox 2<br>98,66\% of my traffic consisted of these browsers<br>42,55 of the traffic was coming from IE <br>----------<br>In june, the numbers read:<br>40.75\%     Firefox 3<br>30.06\%     Internet Explorer 7.0<br>8.20\%     Internet Explorer 6.0<br>6.09\%     Chrome<br>6.04\%     Opera 9<br>3.39\%     Internet Explorer 8.0<br>1.99\%     Firefox 2<br>1.86\%     Safari<br>98,38\% of my traffic consisted of these browsers<br>41,65 of the traffic was coming from IE <br>----------<br>Way back in January, the numbers looked like this:<br>36.51\%     Internet Explorer 7.0<br>35.49\%     Firefox 3<br>13.70\%     Internet Explorer 6.0<br>4.95\%     Opera 9<br>3.92\%     Firefox 2<br>1.95\%     Chrome<br>1.54\%     Safari<br>0.58\%     Firefox 1<br>0.40\%     Internet Explorer 8.0<br>99,04\% of my traffic consisted of these browsers<br>50,61 of the traffic was coming from IE <br>----------<br>Whether anyone feels like making any conclusions based on these numbers, I don't know<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)<br>But from my end, it seems I had the biggest changes in IE/Non-IE ratio in the months November last yer until April this year...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I run a web-based online football manager game , and for July , I see : 40.19 \ % Firefox 330.05 \ % Internet Explorer 7.08.01 \ % Internet Explorer 6.06.37 \ % Opera 95.95 \ % Chrome4.49 \ % Internet Explorer 8.01.95 \ % Safari1.65 \ % Firefox 298,66 \ % of my traffic consisted of these browsers42,55 of the traffic was coming from IE ----------In june , the numbers read : 40.75 \ % Firefox 330.06 \ % Internet Explorer 7.08.20 \ % Internet Explorer 6.06.09 \ % Chrome6.04 \ % Opera 93.39 \ % Internet Explorer 8.01.99 \ % Firefox 21.86 \ % Safari98,38 \ % of my traffic consisted of these browsers41,65 of the traffic was coming from IE ----------Way back in January , the numbers looked like this : 36.51 \ % Internet Explorer 7.035.49 \ % Firefox 313.70 \ % Internet Explorer 6.04.95 \ % Opera 93.92 \ % Firefox 21.95 \ % Chrome1.54 \ % Safari0.58 \ % Firefox 10.40 \ % Internet Explorer 8.099,04 \ % of my traffic consisted of these browsers50,61 of the traffic was coming from IE ----------Whether anyone feels like making any conclusions based on these numbers , I do n't know : ) But from my end , it seems I had the biggest changes in IE/Non-IE ratio in the months November last yer until April this year.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I run a web-based online football manager game, and for July, I see:40.19\%     Firefox 330.05\%     Internet Explorer 7.08.01\%     Internet Explorer 6.06.37\%     Opera 95.95\%     Chrome4.49\%     Internet Explorer 8.01.95\%     Safari1.65\%     Firefox 298,66\% of my traffic consisted of these browsers42,55 of the traffic was coming from IE ----------In june, the numbers read:40.75\%     Firefox 330.06\%     Internet Explorer 7.08.20\%     Internet Explorer 6.06.09\%     Chrome6.04\%     Opera 93.39\%     Internet Explorer 8.01.99\%     Firefox 21.86\%     Safari98,38\% of my traffic consisted of these browsers41,65 of the traffic was coming from IE ----------Way back in January, the numbers looked like this:36.51\%     Internet Explorer 7.035.49\%     Firefox 313.70\%     Internet Explorer 6.04.95\%     Opera 93.92\%     Firefox 21.95\%     Chrome1.54\%     Safari0.58\%     Firefox 10.40\%     Internet Explorer 8.099,04\% of my traffic consisted of these browsers50,61 of the traffic was coming from IE ----------Whether anyone feels like making any conclusions based on these numbers, I don't know :)But from my end, it seems I had the biggest changes in IE/Non-IE ratio in the months November last yer until April this year...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614535</id>
	<title>w3schools doesn't show anything</title>
	<author>Xtifr</author>
	<datestamp>1246963320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers\_stats.asp" title="w3schools.com">W3 Schools</a> [w3schools.com] which has an admitted alternate-browser bias does not show any sort of abrupt drop-off for IE, and if anywhere were going to, I would think it would be this site.  In fact, it shows Firefox dropping for the first time since September of last year (when Chrome was initially released), but only half a percentage point.  IE7 is losing ground to IE8 rather quickly, but IE6 actually gained a half a percentage point since May.  Chrome is also up another half a point, and nothing else really had enough movement to be worth mentioning (Safari up a tenth, Opera down a tenth).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>W3 Schools [ w3schools.com ] which has an admitted alternate-browser bias does not show any sort of abrupt drop-off for IE , and if anywhere were going to , I would think it would be this site .
In fact , it shows Firefox dropping for the first time since September of last year ( when Chrome was initially released ) , but only half a percentage point .
IE7 is losing ground to IE8 rather quickly , but IE6 actually gained a half a percentage point since May .
Chrome is also up another half a point , and nothing else really had enough movement to be worth mentioning ( Safari up a tenth , Opera down a tenth ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>W3 Schools [w3schools.com] which has an admitted alternate-browser bias does not show any sort of abrupt drop-off for IE, and if anywhere were going to, I would think it would be this site.
In fact, it shows Firefox dropping for the first time since September of last year (when Chrome was initially released), but only half a percentage point.
IE7 is losing ground to IE8 rather quickly, but IE6 actually gained a half a percentage point since May.
Chrome is also up another half a point, and nothing else really had enough movement to be worth mentioning (Safari up a tenth, Opera down a tenth).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614601</id>
	<title>Google Analytics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246963560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My stats (from google analytics) show a monthly ~2\% drop in IE since the beginning of the year. June was below 48\%. Used to be much higher...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My stats ( from google analytics ) show a monthly ~ 2 \ % drop in IE since the beginning of the year .
June was below 48 \ % .
Used to be much higher.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My stats (from google analytics) show a monthly ~2\% drop in IE since the beginning of the year.
June was below 48\%.
Used to be much higher...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615237</id>
	<title>In Private browsing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246966860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about all of those people using porn mode in IE....I mean InPrivate browsing?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about all of those people using porn mode in IE....I mean InPrivate browsing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about all of those people using porn mode in IE....I mean InPrivate browsing?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28620665</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>Kiyyik</author>
	<datestamp>1247062380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We run a B2B site over here, and I've noticed a definite drop in IE use, though admittedly rather less pronounced than, say, the Spongebob site above.  Just at the moment for July, my numbers are running:

IE: 77.88\%
Firefox: 15.18\%
Safari: 5.69\%
Chrome: 1.16\% (finally broke 1\% for us)

Everyone else 1\% of course.  If I compare it to June, IE was at 79.04\%, and June of last year was 90.58\%, so a pretty good drop there over time.

Funnily enough, the big mover seems to be Safari, which was less than 4\% not so long ago, and esp. considering that our desktop software is windows-only (mind you--mac-head that I am--I have re-engineered the site to be more safari-friendly, so I like to think that's a factor).</htmltext>
<tokenext>We run a B2B site over here , and I 've noticed a definite drop in IE use , though admittedly rather less pronounced than , say , the Spongebob site above .
Just at the moment for July , my numbers are running : IE : 77.88 \ % Firefox : 15.18 \ % Safari : 5.69 \ % Chrome : 1.16 \ % ( finally broke 1 \ % for us ) Everyone else 1 \ % of course .
If I compare it to June , IE was at 79.04 \ % , and June of last year was 90.58 \ % , so a pretty good drop there over time .
Funnily enough , the big mover seems to be Safari , which was less than 4 \ % not so long ago , and esp .
considering that our desktop software is windows-only ( mind you--mac-head that I am--I have re-engineered the site to be more safari-friendly , so I like to think that 's a factor ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We run a B2B site over here, and I've noticed a definite drop in IE use, though admittedly rather less pronounced than, say, the Spongebob site above.
Just at the moment for July, my numbers are running:

IE: 77.88\%
Firefox: 15.18\%
Safari: 5.69\%
Chrome: 1.16\% (finally broke 1\% for us)

Everyone else 1\% of course.
If I compare it to June, IE was at 79.04\%, and June of last year was 90.58\%, so a pretty good drop there over time.
Funnily enough, the big mover seems to be Safari, which was less than 4\% not so long ago, and esp.
considering that our desktop software is windows-only (mind you--mac-head that I am--I have re-engineered the site to be more safari-friendly, so I like to think that's a factor).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614055</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614639</id>
	<title>NetApplications vs StatCounter</title>
	<author>trazan</author>
	<datestamp>1246963800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I really wish this was true, but StatCounter's numbers seem a bit dodgy, with big swings in market share for no apparent reason.

Example: <a href="http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-na-daily-20090307-20090506" title="statcounter.com" rel="nofollow">http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-na-daily-20090307-20090506</a> [statcounter.com]

NetApplications number are more stable; yesterdays market share for all IE versions was 63.47\%, which is still a drop, but less dramatic.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I really wish this was true , but StatCounter 's numbers seem a bit dodgy , with big swings in market share for no apparent reason .
Example : http : //gs.statcounter.com/ # browser-na-daily-20090307-20090506 [ statcounter.com ] NetApplications number are more stable ; yesterdays market share for all IE versions was 63.47 \ % , which is still a drop , but less dramatic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really wish this was true, but StatCounter's numbers seem a bit dodgy, with big swings in market share for no apparent reason.
Example: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-na-daily-20090307-20090506 [statcounter.com]

NetApplications number are more stable; yesterdays market share for all IE versions was 63.47\%, which is still a drop, but less dramatic.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614149</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246961700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Considering that the unemployment numbers continue to rise, less business users running IE + more consumers running iphones might account for part of the change.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering that the unemployment numbers continue to rise , less business users running IE + more consumers running iphones might account for part of the change .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering that the unemployment numbers continue to rise, less business users running IE + more consumers running iphones might account for part of the change.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618641</id>
	<title>Re:I have a guess...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247083320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean you don't like/want/use Accelerators and Webslices. I personally can't live without them. The moment IE8 came out I kicked Chrome out of my life!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/sarcasm</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean you do n't like/want/use Accelerators and Webslices .
I personally ca n't live without them .
The moment IE8 came out I kicked Chrome out of my life !
/sarcasm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean you don't like/want/use Accelerators and Webslices.
I personally can't live without them.
The moment IE8 came out I kicked Chrome out of my life!
/sarcasm</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615391</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28623145</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247071080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was a Thursday!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was a Thursday !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was a Thursday!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614183</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28622591</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>WuphonsReach</author>
	<datestamp>1247069220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Notice of your house being demolished on Tuesday can be put up in a dark cellar with no stairs at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory of the planning office guarded by a Leopard.</i> <br>
<br>
Except that there is no leopard there, only a sign reading "Beware of Leopard".</htmltext>
<tokenext>Notice of your house being demolished on Tuesday can be put up in a dark cellar with no stairs at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory of the planning office guarded by a Leopard .
Except that there is no leopard there , only a sign reading " Beware of Leopard " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Notice of your house being demolished on Tuesday can be put up in a dark cellar with no stairs at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory of the planning office guarded by a Leopard.
Except that there is no leopard there, only a sign reading "Beware of Leopard".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614183</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614123</id>
	<title>Looking from multiple angles</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246961580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you look at the longterm trends reported by Net Applcations, something that StatCounter doesn't offer, it's hard to conclude that anything dramatic has just happened.</p><p>http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/06/historical\_view.html</p><p>These longer trends are steady and smooth and there's nothing that's happened in the last couple of months that would cause IE to fall off the cliff.

</p><p>That being said, there is a lot of churn in the various browser versions.  IE is really a collection of browsers with measurable share, IE 6, IE 7, and IE 8. Looking at these versions, it's clear that a lot is happening.</p><p>http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/07/a\_browser\_prediction.html</p><p>It's likely that IE 7 and IE 6 will fall to under 10\% global share by the end of this year and that IE 8 will grow to approximately 40\%.  That would give IE 60\% overall, Firefox about 25\%, Safari about 10\%, and "other" would hold the remaining 5\%.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you look at the longterm trends reported by Net Applcations , something that StatCounter does n't offer , it 's hard to conclude that anything dramatic has just happened.http : //weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/06/historical \ _view.htmlThese longer trends are steady and smooth and there 's nothing that 's happened in the last couple of months that would cause IE to fall off the cliff .
That being said , there is a lot of churn in the various browser versions .
IE is really a collection of browsers with measurable share , IE 6 , IE 7 , and IE 8 .
Looking at these versions , it 's clear that a lot is happening.http : //weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/07/a \ _browser \ _prediction.htmlIt 's likely that IE 7 and IE 6 will fall to under 10 \ % global share by the end of this year and that IE 8 will grow to approximately 40 \ % .
That would give IE 60 \ % overall , Firefox about 25 \ % , Safari about 10 \ % , and " other " would hold the remaining 5 \ % .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you look at the longterm trends reported by Net Applcations, something that StatCounter doesn't offer, it's hard to conclude that anything dramatic has just happened.http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/06/historical\_view.htmlThese longer trends are steady and smooth and there's nothing that's happened in the last couple of months that would cause IE to fall off the cliff.
That being said, there is a lot of churn in the various browser versions.
IE is really a collection of browsers with measurable share, IE 6, IE 7, and IE 8.
Looking at these versions, it's clear that a lot is happening.http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/07/a\_browser\_prediction.htmlIt's likely that IE 7 and IE 6 will fall to under 10\% global share by the end of this year and that IE 8 will grow to approximately 40\%.
That would give IE 60\% overall, Firefox about 25\%, Safari about 10\%, and "other" would hold the remaining 5\%.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615547</id>
	<title>Re:typo in summary</title>
	<author>Ecuador</author>
	<datestamp>1246968600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh, I thought you were going to say "vor versions 6, 7..." is the typo. Well, I guess that is an attempt at some fake-Dutch-speak humor then... sorry for missing that!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , I thought you were going to say " vor versions 6 , 7... " is the typo .
Well , I guess that is an attempt at some fake-Dutch-speak humor then... sorry for missing that !
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, I thought you were going to say "vor versions 6, 7..." is the typo.
Well, I guess that is an attempt at some fake-Dutch-speak humor then... sorry for missing that!
;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613949</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614159</id>
	<title>Looking from multiple angles</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246961700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you look at the longterm trends reported by Net Applcations, something that StatCounter doesn't offer, it's hard to conclude that anything dramatic has just happened.

</p><p> <a href="http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/06/historical\_view.html" title="mozillazine.org" rel="nofollow">http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/06/historical\_view.html</a> [mozillazine.org]

</p><p>These longer trends are steady and smooth and there's nothing that's happened in the last couple of months that would cause IE to fall off the cliff.

</p><p>That being said, there is a lot of churn in the various browser versions. IE is really a collection of browsers with measurable share, IE 6, IE 7, and IE 8. Looking at these versions, it's clear that a lot is happening.

</p><p> <a href="http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/07/a\_browser\_prediction.html" title="mozillazine.org" rel="nofollow">http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/07/a\_browser\_prediction.html</a> [mozillazine.org]

</p><p>It's likely that IE 7 and IE 6 will fall to under 10\% global share by the end of this year and that IE 8 will grow to approximately 40\%. That would give IE 60\% overall, Firefox about 25\%, Safari about 10\%, and "other" would hold the remaining 5\%.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you look at the longterm trends reported by Net Applcations , something that StatCounter does n't offer , it 's hard to conclude that anything dramatic has just happened .
http : //weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/06/historical \ _view.html [ mozillazine.org ] These longer trends are steady and smooth and there 's nothing that 's happened in the last couple of months that would cause IE to fall off the cliff .
That being said , there is a lot of churn in the various browser versions .
IE is really a collection of browsers with measurable share , IE 6 , IE 7 , and IE 8 .
Looking at these versions , it 's clear that a lot is happening .
http : //weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/07/a \ _browser \ _prediction.html [ mozillazine.org ] It 's likely that IE 7 and IE 6 will fall to under 10 \ % global share by the end of this year and that IE 8 will grow to approximately 40 \ % .
That would give IE 60 \ % overall , Firefox about 25 \ % , Safari about 10 \ % , and " other " would hold the remaining 5 \ % .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you look at the longterm trends reported by Net Applcations, something that StatCounter doesn't offer, it's hard to conclude that anything dramatic has just happened.
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/06/historical\_view.html [mozillazine.org]

These longer trends are steady and smooth and there's nothing that's happened in the last couple of months that would cause IE to fall off the cliff.
That being said, there is a lot of churn in the various browser versions.
IE is really a collection of browsers with measurable share, IE 6, IE 7, and IE 8.
Looking at these versions, it's clear that a lot is happening.
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/07/a\_browser\_prediction.html [mozillazine.org]

It's likely that IE 7 and IE 6 will fall to under 10\% global share by the end of this year and that IE 8 will grow to approximately 40\%.
That would give IE 60\% overall, Firefox about 25\%, Safari about 10\%, and "other" would hold the remaining 5\%.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616821</id>
	<title>Re:Proliferation of mobile browsers...</title>
	<author>spitzak</author>
	<datestamp>1246978320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For that to explain it then IE8 would have to look like Firefox to this statistic counter. If it was just unrecognized there would instead be an 8\% rise in "unknown/other".</p><p>However it does seem possible that this counter uses some strange method to indicate the browser so that IE8 looks like Firefox to it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For that to explain it then IE8 would have to look like Firefox to this statistic counter .
If it was just unrecognized there would instead be an 8 \ % rise in " unknown/other " .However it does seem possible that this counter uses some strange method to indicate the browser so that IE8 looks like Firefox to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For that to explain it then IE8 would have to look like Firefox to this statistic counter.
If it was just unrecognized there would instead be an 8\% rise in "unknown/other".However it does seem possible that this counter uses some strange method to indicate the browser so that IE8 looks like Firefox to it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614655</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614147</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246961700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How many of those MSIE browser percentages are<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/other/ broswers that are merely spoofing 'MSIE' to your site?</p><p>If you can't measure that, you don't have an accurate measurement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How many of those MSIE browser percentages are /other/ broswers that are merely spoofing 'MSIE ' to your site ? If you ca n't measure that , you do n't have an accurate measurement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many of those MSIE browser percentages are /other/ broswers that are merely spoofing 'MSIE' to your site?If you can't measure that, you don't have an accurate measurement.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614055</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614465</id>
	<title>Hmm</title>
	<author>trifish</author>
	<datestamp>1246963020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or maybe NetApps just came up with a creative way to earn more money from ads by delaying the release and having people come back every day for one week to check if the data is already there...</p><p>Well, why not. It's ok. But let's not misinterpret that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or maybe NetApps just came up with a creative way to earn more money from ads by delaying the release and having people come back every day for one week to check if the data is already there...Well , why not .
It 's ok. But let 's not misinterpret that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or maybe NetApps just came up with a creative way to earn more money from ads by delaying the release and having people come back every day for one week to check if the data is already there...Well, why not.
It's ok. But let's not misinterpret that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616859</id>
	<title>It is now official...</title>
	<author>GameMaster</author>
	<datestamp>1246978740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Netcraft has confirmed: Internet Explorer is dying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Netcraft has confirmed : Internet Explorer is dying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Netcraft has confirmed: Internet Explorer is dying.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618105</id>
	<title>Re:~20\% here, and still in decline</title>
	<author>elashish14</author>
	<datestamp>1246990620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's good to know. I'm using NoScript to block Google Analytics, and I'm willing to assume people on your site are using it too. There's a good chance that Firefox usage is higher than reported. Nobody using IE would do that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's good to know .
I 'm using NoScript to block Google Analytics , and I 'm willing to assume people on your site are using it too .
There 's a good chance that Firefox usage is higher than reported .
Nobody using IE would do that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's good to know.
I'm using NoScript to block Google Analytics, and I'm willing to assume people on your site are using it too.
There's a good chance that Firefox usage is higher than reported.
Nobody using IE would do that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614393</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616475</id>
	<title>My website stats show 65\% IE usage</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246975620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the past year has been pretty stable on my website stats, all 3 browsers were registered and one of them was a googlebot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the past year has been pretty stable on my website stats , all 3 browsers were registered and one of them was a googlebot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the past year has been pretty stable on my website stats, all 3 browsers were registered and one of them was a googlebot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618427</id>
	<title>Re:Segment and conquer</title>
	<author>zobier</author>
	<datestamp>1246994580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also see the consistent pattern of IE6 usage on weekdays (and the inverse pattern in the FF, it's about a 3\% spread) - poor sods forced to use it at work (no offence intended to those in this situation).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also see the consistent pattern of IE6 usage on weekdays ( and the inverse pattern in the FF , it 's about a 3 \ % spread ) - poor sods forced to use it at work ( no offence intended to those in this situation ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also see the consistent pattern of IE6 usage on weekdays (and the inverse pattern in the FF, it's about a 3\% spread) - poor sods forced to use it at work (no offence intended to those in this situation).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615001</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28620915</id>
	<title>Re:Please let this be true!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247063220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At point 6) you really should put "IE dominates because netscape was, by comparison, confusing, bugridden shit that was shamed by IE4 and IE5".</p><p>It took \_ages\_ for netscape/firefox to actually be a quality product worth comparing with IE. Do you not remember how uncomfortable Netscape 6 was?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At point 6 ) you really should put " IE dominates because netscape was , by comparison , confusing , bugridden shit that was shamed by IE4 and IE5 " .It took \ _ages \ _ for netscape/firefox to actually be a quality product worth comparing with IE .
Do you not remember how uncomfortable Netscape 6 was ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At point 6) you really should put "IE dominates because netscape was, by comparison, confusing, bugridden shit that was shamed by IE4 and IE5".It took \_ages\_ for netscape/firefox to actually be a quality product worth comparing with IE.
Do you not remember how uncomfortable Netscape 6 was?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614231</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616075</id>
	<title>Not down substantially for us</title>
	<author>koalapeck</author>
	<datestamp>1246972560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IE is only down about 2\% for us over last year. It represents about 62\% of our visitors.</p><p>Firefox is up to about 26\% now, and Safari is nearly 9\%.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IE is only down about 2 \ % for us over last year .
It represents about 62 \ % of our visitors.Firefox is up to about 26 \ % now , and Safari is nearly 9 \ % .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IE is only down about 2\% for us over last year.
It represents about 62\% of our visitors.Firefox is up to about 26\% now, and Safari is nearly 9\%.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615095</id>
	<title>"statistical anomaly"?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246965780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can believe in problems in the measuring process, or maybe a botnet changed its faked user agent string to firefox. Or maybe IE genuinely lost so many users.</p><p>But "statistical anomaly"? are you kidding me?<br>Without even reading TFA I'm sure they measure at least 1 million visitors per month, probably at least one order of magnitude more. For such a large sample size statistical anomalies can be neglected.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can believe in problems in the measuring process , or maybe a botnet changed its faked user agent string to firefox .
Or maybe IE genuinely lost so many users.But " statistical anomaly " ?
are you kidding me ? Without even reading TFA I 'm sure they measure at least 1 million visitors per month , probably at least one order of magnitude more .
For such a large sample size statistical anomalies can be neglected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can believe in problems in the measuring process, or maybe a botnet changed its faked user agent string to firefox.
Or maybe IE genuinely lost so many users.But "statistical anomaly"?
are you kidding me?Without even reading TFA I'm sure they measure at least 1 million visitors per month, probably at least one order of magnitude more.
For such a large sample size statistical anomalies can be neglected.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28620237</id>
	<title>Re:Ugh!!!</title>
	<author>Yosho</author>
	<datestamp>1247060580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Infact I just looked at my stats for June. Guess what browser was #1 and was probably ATLEAST 50\% of the hits (also including bots)? IE 5!</p></div><p>Holy crap, IE5?  You know that Windows XP came with IE6 installed as the default browser, right?  What kind of site do you run, a Windows 98 driver repository?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Infact I just looked at my stats for June .
Guess what browser was # 1 and was probably ATLEAST 50 \ % of the hits ( also including bots ) ?
IE 5 ! Holy crap , IE5 ?
You know that Windows XP came with IE6 installed as the default browser , right ?
What kind of site do you run , a Windows 98 driver repository ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Infact I just looked at my stats for June.
Guess what browser was #1 and was probably ATLEAST 50\% of the hits (also including bots)?
IE 5!Holy crap, IE5?
You know that Windows XP came with IE6 installed as the default browser, right?
What kind of site do you run, a Windows 98 driver repository?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614609</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28619225</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>swilver</author>
	<datestamp>1247047920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, for me the difference will always be that Commercial software usually has investors interest at heart (which is not quite the same as having the consumer's interest at heart, although close, otherwise consumers wouldn't buy it at all), while OSS software has the user's interest at heart (which is often the author of the software, which is again not quite the same as your common user).</p><p>The difference is subtle, but commercial software often is more annoying: more questions being asked of the user, more annoying splash screens, pop-ups, flashy stupid defaults nobody would use but looks nice for marketing, that kind of stuff.  You're also unlikely to see features like ad-skipping in Media Center or ad-block in IE, or an easy way to rip CD's directly with Windows.  There's lots of features frowned upon by investors that consumers would probably love.</p><p>That's why I personally like OSS software more.  It tends to limit me less, and it adds features that at least please a small selection of users (the author(s)).  It does mean it is often less polished, but I can live with that.  It's not too big of a problem if the software just keeps running without a glitch once properly configured.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , for me the difference will always be that Commercial software usually has investors interest at heart ( which is not quite the same as having the consumer 's interest at heart , although close , otherwise consumers would n't buy it at all ) , while OSS software has the user 's interest at heart ( which is often the author of the software , which is again not quite the same as your common user ) .The difference is subtle , but commercial software often is more annoying : more questions being asked of the user , more annoying splash screens , pop-ups , flashy stupid defaults nobody would use but looks nice for marketing , that kind of stuff .
You 're also unlikely to see features like ad-skipping in Media Center or ad-block in IE , or an easy way to rip CD 's directly with Windows .
There 's lots of features frowned upon by investors that consumers would probably love.That 's why I personally like OSS software more .
It tends to limit me less , and it adds features that at least please a small selection of users ( the author ( s ) ) .
It does mean it is often less polished , but I can live with that .
It 's not too big of a problem if the software just keeps running without a glitch once properly configured .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, for me the difference will always be that Commercial software usually has investors interest at heart (which is not quite the same as having the consumer's interest at heart, although close, otherwise consumers wouldn't buy it at all), while OSS software has the user's interest at heart (which is often the author of the software, which is again not quite the same as your common user).The difference is subtle, but commercial software often is more annoying: more questions being asked of the user, more annoying splash screens, pop-ups, flashy stupid defaults nobody would use but looks nice for marketing, that kind of stuff.
You're also unlikely to see features like ad-skipping in Media Center or ad-block in IE, or an easy way to rip CD's directly with Windows.
There's lots of features frowned upon by investors that consumers would probably love.That's why I personally like OSS software more.
It tends to limit me less, and it adds features that at least please a small selection of users (the author(s)).
It does mean it is often less polished, but I can live with that.
It's not too big of a problem if the software just keeps running without a glitch once properly configured.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614345</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614243</id>
	<title>MJ Factor, plus, it is summer</title>
	<author>kenh</author>
	<datestamp>1246962060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First, the MJ factor - these stats my be low, but I bet they will rise again once all the web-surfing born-again Michael Jackson fans are reflected in the stats for July.</p><p>Also, the summer factor is huge - at $WORK (Public school district) we have over 1,000 windows boxes that are now sitting idle through August, their IE 7 and IE 8 browsers aren't flipping through the most popular websites anymore. There are likely MILLIONS and MILLIONS of idle Windows machines at Universities and public schools skewing the stats down for IE 6, 7, and 8.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First , the MJ factor - these stats my be low , but I bet they will rise again once all the web-surfing born-again Michael Jackson fans are reflected in the stats for July.Also , the summer factor is huge - at $ WORK ( Public school district ) we have over 1,000 windows boxes that are now sitting idle through August , their IE 7 and IE 8 browsers are n't flipping through the most popular websites anymore .
There are likely MILLIONS and MILLIONS of idle Windows machines at Universities and public schools skewing the stats down for IE 6 , 7 , and 8 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First, the MJ factor - these stats my be low, but I bet they will rise again once all the web-surfing born-again Michael Jackson fans are reflected in the stats for July.Also, the summer factor is huge - at $WORK (Public school district) we have over 1,000 windows boxes that are now sitting idle through August, their IE 7 and IE 8 browsers aren't flipping through the most popular websites anymore.
There are likely MILLIONS and MILLIONS of idle Windows machines at Universities and public schools skewing the stats down for IE 6, 7, and 8.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615963</id>
	<title>Re:Proliferation of mobile browsers...</title>
	<author>DigitAl56K</author>
	<datestamp>1246971360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another thing that potentially could explain this is IE8's "Compatibility View" feature, where in some cases the user-agent string can be modified.</p><p>See here:<br><a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/08/27/introducing-compatibility-view.aspx" title="msdn.com">http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/08/27/introducing-compatibility-view.aspx</a> [msdn.com]</p><p>I'd be surprised if it was ever modified to read something that couldn't be identified as IE, but perhaps it's modified just enough to monkey with the analytics in this case.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another thing that potentially could explain this is IE8 's " Compatibility View " feature , where in some cases the user-agent string can be modified.See here : http : //blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/08/27/introducing-compatibility-view.aspx [ msdn.com ] I 'd be surprised if it was ever modified to read something that could n't be identified as IE , but perhaps it 's modified just enough to monkey with the analytics in this case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another thing that potentially could explain this is IE8's "Compatibility View" feature, where in some cases the user-agent string can be modified.See here:http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/08/27/introducing-compatibility-view.aspx [msdn.com]I'd be surprised if it was ever modified to read something that couldn't be identified as IE, but perhaps it's modified just enough to monkey with the analytics in this case.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614071</id>
	<title>iPhone = Safari</title>
	<author>Absolut187</author>
	<datestamp>1246961520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That shit counts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That shit counts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That shit counts.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614505</id>
	<title>Firefox 3.5 Memory Leaks</title>
	<author>dooby\_Monster</author>
	<datestamp>1246963200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Off topic but, Has anyone noticed sever memory leaks with Firefox 3.5
left my machine on in work for about 3 days. Came in this morning and the firefox process was running
at about 700MB Ram Usage. I was under the impression there was supposed to be big improvements
in this area for the application. Surely i'm not the only person who has noticed this. There were only
about 2 tabs open. Didn't take a note of what tabs were open but would of been nice if could of sent
some sort of log but what guarantee is there that these ever get looked at anyway.

dm</htmltext>
<tokenext>Off topic but , Has anyone noticed sever memory leaks with Firefox 3.5 left my machine on in work for about 3 days .
Came in this morning and the firefox process was running at about 700MB Ram Usage .
I was under the impression there was supposed to be big improvements in this area for the application .
Surely i 'm not the only person who has noticed this .
There were only about 2 tabs open .
Did n't take a note of what tabs were open but would of been nice if could of sent some sort of log but what guarantee is there that these ever get looked at anyway .
dm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Off topic but, Has anyone noticed sever memory leaks with Firefox 3.5
left my machine on in work for about 3 days.
Came in this morning and the firefox process was running
at about 700MB Ram Usage.
I was under the impression there was supposed to be big improvements
in this area for the application.
Surely i'm not the only person who has noticed this.
There were only
about 2 tabs open.
Didn't take a note of what tabs were open but would of been nice if could of sent
some sort of log but what guarantee is there that these ever get looked at anyway.
dm</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28619697</id>
	<title>Net Applications, eh?</title>
	<author>notrandomly</author>
	<datestamp>1247055720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not exactly the most <a href="http://tinyurl.com/netapplies" title="tinyurl.com" rel="nofollow">reliable</a> [tinyurl.com] statistics. How can a browser have a higher market share than another browser with 3x as many users? Yeah, Net Applications reported that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not exactly the most reliable [ tinyurl.com ] statistics .
How can a browser have a higher market share than another browser with 3x as many users ?
Yeah , Net Applications reported that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not exactly the most reliable [tinyurl.com] statistics.
How can a browser have a higher market share than another browser with 3x as many users?
Yeah, Net Applications reported that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618615</id>
	<title>Indian site stats</title>
	<author>varundhussa</author>
	<datestamp>1246996620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I run the website MapmyIndia.com (http://maps.mapmyindia.com). Reading this post I did a quick check on the browser usage. Here are the current stats: <br>

IE (all variants): 58\% <br>
Moz (all variants): 28\% <br>
Webkit based (Chrome/Safari): 13\% <br>
<br>
Based on the trend of about one year, both IE and Mozilla shares have dropped! Webkit based browsers have increased from about 1-2\% to 13\%. Opera usage is still negligible.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I run the website MapmyIndia.com ( http : //maps.mapmyindia.com ) .
Reading this post I did a quick check on the browser usage .
Here are the current stats : IE ( all variants ) : 58 \ % Moz ( all variants ) : 28 \ % Webkit based ( Chrome/Safari ) : 13 \ % Based on the trend of about one year , both IE and Mozilla shares have dropped !
Webkit based browsers have increased from about 1-2 \ % to 13 \ % .
Opera usage is still negligible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I run the website MapmyIndia.com (http://maps.mapmyindia.com).
Reading this post I did a quick check on the browser usage.
Here are the current stats: 

IE (all variants): 58\% 
Moz (all variants): 28\% 
Webkit based (Chrome/Safari): 13\% 

Based on the trend of about one year, both IE and Mozilla shares have dropped!
Webkit based browsers have increased from about 1-2\% to 13\%.
Opera usage is still negligible.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618213</id>
	<title>Re:It's because IE 6 support was droped on some si</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246992060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been working on a custom LAMP application for about 4 years now. I stopped worrying about IE a year ago. That is to say, no IE testing what so ever. I just don't care how bad it looks in IE. If the users don't like it in IE, they need to find someone who cares. And I mean in any version IE 5, IE 6, IE 7, IE 8, IE 9, IE 10, IE11...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been working on a custom LAMP application for about 4 years now .
I stopped worrying about IE a year ago .
That is to say , no IE testing what so ever .
I just do n't care how bad it looks in IE .
If the users do n't like it in IE , they need to find someone who cares .
And I mean in any version IE 5 , IE 6 , IE 7 , IE 8 , IE 9 , IE 10 , IE11.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been working on a custom LAMP application for about 4 years now.
I stopped worrying about IE a year ago.
That is to say, no IE testing what so ever.
I just don't care how bad it looks in IE.
If the users don't like it in IE, they need to find someone who cares.
And I mean in any version IE 5, IE 6, IE 7, IE 8, IE 9, IE 10, IE11...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614103</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614345</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>stevied</author>
	<datestamp>1246962540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>At the risk of being slightly controversial<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. how much of the difference between commercial and OSS really is technical?<br> <br>
Don't get me wrong, I'm rabidly pro-<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOSS" title="wikipedia.org">F/L/OSS</a> [wikipedia.org], and nudge "ordinary" people towards it wherever I can, but I think it's a bit of a simplification to describe it as purely technically superior. When it does push the envelope, it normally drives the commercial world to react and improve, so they're usually roughly level-pegging at the feature level.<br> <br>
Where it really shines, I think, is in harder-to-define areas. Ethics, for one. Architectural taste, for another (debian got package management right 10 - 15 years ago - has windows caught up yet?) Social/organizational factors - the maintenance and repository models used by open OS distributions works so well that the commercial world is mimicking it with "app stores." Lastly, of course, there's motivation - I trust Ubuntu and Mozilla to fix security holes because it's the Right Thing and because they <i>want</i> to do a good job, and not just because they're scared of getting caught out, which I always feel is the mindset in the commercial world.<br> <br>
I understand these things are probably harder to explain to the general public, but can we at least be a bit more honest / precise amongst ourselves?</htmltext>
<tokenext>At the risk of being slightly controversial .. how much of the difference between commercial and OSS really is technical ?
Do n't get me wrong , I 'm rabidly pro-F/L/OSS [ wikipedia.org ] , and nudge " ordinary " people towards it wherever I can , but I think it 's a bit of a simplification to describe it as purely technically superior .
When it does push the envelope , it normally drives the commercial world to react and improve , so they 're usually roughly level-pegging at the feature level .
Where it really shines , I think , is in harder-to-define areas .
Ethics , for one .
Architectural taste , for another ( debian got package management right 10 - 15 years ago - has windows caught up yet ?
) Social/organizational factors - the maintenance and repository models used by open OS distributions works so well that the commercial world is mimicking it with " app stores .
" Lastly , of course , there 's motivation - I trust Ubuntu and Mozilla to fix security holes because it 's the Right Thing and because they want to do a good job , and not just because they 're scared of getting caught out , which I always feel is the mindset in the commercial world .
I understand these things are probably harder to explain to the general public , but can we at least be a bit more honest / precise amongst ourselves ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At the risk of being slightly controversial .. how much of the difference between commercial and OSS really is technical?
Don't get me wrong, I'm rabidly pro-F/L/OSS [wikipedia.org], and nudge "ordinary" people towards it wherever I can, but I think it's a bit of a simplification to describe it as purely technically superior.
When it does push the envelope, it normally drives the commercial world to react and improve, so they're usually roughly level-pegging at the feature level.
Where it really shines, I think, is in harder-to-define areas.
Ethics, for one.
Architectural taste, for another (debian got package management right 10 - 15 years ago - has windows caught up yet?
) Social/organizational factors - the maintenance and repository models used by open OS distributions works so well that the commercial world is mimicking it with "app stores.
" Lastly, of course, there's motivation - I trust Ubuntu and Mozilla to fix security holes because it's the Right Thing and because they want to do a good job, and not just because they're scared of getting caught out, which I always feel is the mindset in the commercial world.
I understand these things are probably harder to explain to the general public, but can we at least be a bit more honest / precise amongst ourselves?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613961</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614187</id>
	<title>Re:Not true</title>
	<author>Urd.Yggdrasil</author>
	<datestamp>1246961820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The link goes to on nimp, don't click it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The link goes to on nimp , do n't click it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The link goes to on nimp, don't click it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614083</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618785</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>trickyD1ck</author>
	<datestamp>1247085300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>For the more general public to understand what you have to say you need to stop being rabid and infesting the interwebs with your propaganda and "nudging".</htmltext>
<tokenext>For the more general public to understand what you have to say you need to stop being rabid and infesting the interwebs with your propaganda and " nudging " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the more general public to understand what you have to say you need to stop being rabid and infesting the interwebs with your propaganda and "nudging".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614345</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28619051</id>
	<title>It depends where you live</title>
	<author>realkiwi</author>
	<datestamp>1247045280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have access to Google Analytics data for several sites:</p><p>US site non IT subject matter - 65/25 IE/Firefox for about 80,000 unique visitors/month</p><p>Global site (US+Canada 50\% of visits) similar subject matter to above - 54/33 IE/Firefox for about 9,000 visitors</p><p>The 5-6 French sites I have access to are also in the 5x/3x range - subject matter is agriculture. IE is banned in many public services in France which is one of the reasons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have access to Google Analytics data for several sites : US site non IT subject matter - 65/25 IE/Firefox for about 80,000 unique visitors/monthGlobal site ( US + Canada 50 \ % of visits ) similar subject matter to above - 54/33 IE/Firefox for about 9,000 visitorsThe 5-6 French sites I have access to are also in the 5x/3x range - subject matter is agriculture .
IE is banned in many public services in France which is one of the reasons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have access to Google Analytics data for several sites:US site non IT subject matter - 65/25 IE/Firefox for about 80,000 unique visitors/monthGlobal site (US+Canada 50\% of visits) similar subject matter to above - 54/33 IE/Firefox for about 9,000 visitorsThe 5-6 French sites I have access to are also in the 5x/3x range - subject matter is agriculture.
IE is banned in many public services in France which is one of the reasons.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618951</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247043840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you used to get blown but now they only want to be friends? sorry to hear that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you used to get blown but now they only want to be friends ?
sorry to hear that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you used to get blown but now they only want to be friends?
sorry to hear that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614207</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614013</id>
	<title>In utter disarray?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246961280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it dying? Has netcraft confirmed it? Did it loose 73\% of its core developer?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it dying ?
Has netcraft confirmed it ?
Did it loose 73 \ % of its core developer ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it dying?
Has netcraft confirmed it?
Did it loose 73\% of its core developer?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618771</id>
	<title>Likely depends on the demographic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247085120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Am close to the hosting of a wide range of official musical artiste sites and am not seeing any particular variation in IE's share over the past six months.  The breakdown varies according to the artist's demographic (with a few international artist sites down to ~60\% MSIE), but in terms of certain artists, where the audience is largely the average tech-unsavvy Joe / young family home (think: soap opera / reality TV enthusiasts), if anything IE is up a percentage point or two in the past few months.

Then again am looking at awstats so anything is possible</htmltext>
<tokenext>Am close to the hosting of a wide range of official musical artiste sites and am not seeing any particular variation in IE 's share over the past six months .
The breakdown varies according to the artist 's demographic ( with a few international artist sites down to ~ 60 \ % MSIE ) , but in terms of certain artists , where the audience is largely the average tech-unsavvy Joe / young family home ( think : soap opera / reality TV enthusiasts ) , if anything IE is up a percentage point or two in the past few months .
Then again am looking at awstats so anything is possible</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am close to the hosting of a wide range of official musical artiste sites and am not seeing any particular variation in IE's share over the past six months.
The breakdown varies according to the artist's demographic (with a few international artist sites down to ~60\% MSIE), but in terms of certain artists, where the audience is largely the average tech-unsavvy Joe / young family home (think: soap opera / reality TV enthusiasts), if anything IE is up a percentage point or two in the past few months.
Then again am looking at awstats so anything is possible</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616287</id>
	<title>Re:hmm.... it's summer?</title>
	<author>Grishnakh</author>
	<datestamp>1246974120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I live in Phoenix, Arizona, you insensitive clod!  This is the time of year that everyone wants to stay inside, with the temperature currently at 106.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in Phoenix , Arizona , you insensitive clod !
This is the time of year that everyone wants to stay inside , with the temperature currently at 106 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in Phoenix, Arizona, you insensitive clod!
This is the time of year that everyone wants to stay inside, with the temperature currently at 106.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614089</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28619855</id>
	<title>Yep</title>
	<author>kcredden</author>
	<datestamp>1247057880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I run three web sites, including a company's site. All of them have shown significat drops in IE usage, including (Thank goodness) IE6. The faster we get rid of that stain the better for Lady McBeth's mind.</p><p>- Kc</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I run three web sites , including a company 's site .
All of them have shown significat drops in IE usage , including ( Thank goodness ) IE6 .
The faster we get rid of that stain the better for Lady McBeth 's mind.- Kc</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I run three web sites, including a company's site.
All of them have shown significat drops in IE usage, including (Thank goodness) IE6.
The faster we get rid of that stain the better for Lady McBeth's mind.- Kc</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616309</id>
	<title>N=N+1</title>
	<author>roelbj</author>
	<datestamp>1246974300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am the webmaster of the webpage for the band Billy Pilgrim, <a href="http://www.billypilgrim.net/" title="billypilgrim.net">http://www.billypilgrim.net/</a> [billypilgrim.net]</p><p>June6-July6:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; IE:   51\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; FFx:  30\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Saf:  10\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Chr:  04\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Moz:  03\%</p><p>Average visitor is probably well educated &amp; in mid-30s as this band was popular in colleges in the late 90s but is no longer active.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am the webmaster of the webpage for the band Billy Pilgrim , http : //www.billypilgrim.net/ [ billypilgrim.net ] June6-July6 :       IE : 51 \ %       FFx : 30 \ %       Saf : 10 \ %       Chr : 04 \ %       Moz : 03 \ % Average visitor is probably well educated &amp; in mid-30s as this band was popular in colleges in the late 90s but is no longer active .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am the webmaster of the webpage for the band Billy Pilgrim, http://www.billypilgrim.net/ [billypilgrim.net]June6-July6:
      IE:   51\%
      FFx:  30\%
      Saf:  10\%
      Chr:  04\%
      Moz:  03\%Average visitor is probably well educated &amp; in mid-30s as this band was popular in colleges in the late 90s but is no longer active.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28625513</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>stevied</author>
	<datestamp>1247079480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There always seems to be an arms race. I hate to say it, but for years, Windows offered a superior desktop experience for normal users, and that fact incited the OSS world to catch up, and arguably overtake. Similarly, Firefox leap-frogged IE quite drastically, causing MS to play catch-up, which they may just about have managed (not sure here, I gave up web design long ago, and don't have IE 8 anywhere to play with.)<br> <br>

In this picture, OSS doesn't always have the lead on features, but what I'm trying to point out is that there are other qualities where OSS <i>does</i> (IMNSHO) consistently trump commercial software, but these are difficult to identify, describe, and communicate to end-users. Should we continue to over-simplify and just tell people "OSS is better", or should we have a go at explaining, in more detail, exactly why?</htmltext>
<tokenext>There always seems to be an arms race .
I hate to say it , but for years , Windows offered a superior desktop experience for normal users , and that fact incited the OSS world to catch up , and arguably overtake .
Similarly , Firefox leap-frogged IE quite drastically , causing MS to play catch-up , which they may just about have managed ( not sure here , I gave up web design long ago , and do n't have IE 8 anywhere to play with .
) In this picture , OSS does n't always have the lead on features , but what I 'm trying to point out is that there are other qualities where OSS does ( IMNSHO ) consistently trump commercial software , but these are difficult to identify , describe , and communicate to end-users .
Should we continue to over-simplify and just tell people " OSS is better " , or should we have a go at explaining , in more detail , exactly why ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There always seems to be an arms race.
I hate to say it, but for years, Windows offered a superior desktop experience for normal users, and that fact incited the OSS world to catch up, and arguably overtake.
Similarly, Firefox leap-frogged IE quite drastically, causing MS to play catch-up, which they may just about have managed (not sure here, I gave up web design long ago, and don't have IE 8 anywhere to play with.
) 

In this picture, OSS doesn't always have the lead on features, but what I'm trying to point out is that there are other qualities where OSS does (IMNSHO) consistently trump commercial software, but these are difficult to identify, describe, and communicate to end-users.
Should we continue to over-simplify and just tell people "OSS is better", or should we have a go at explaining, in more detail, exactly why?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28620389</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618409</id>
	<title>I collect stats too....</title>
	<author>BigBadBus</author>
	<datestamp>1246994460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...but on a month by month basis: <a href="http://www.paullee.com/computers" title="paullee.com">http://www.paullee.com/computers</a> [paullee.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>...but on a month by month basis : http : //www.paullee.com/computers [ paullee.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...but on a month by month basis: http://www.paullee.com/computers [paullee.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615687</id>
	<title>Demographics</title>
	<author>angst\_ridden\_hipster</author>
	<datestamp>1246969440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I looked at reports for three sites for which I have analytics access.</p><p>Here're the results. IE: 53\%, 58\%, 71\%, Firefox: 29\%, 27\%, 19\%, Safari: 13\%, 9\%, 4\%</p><p>One of the sites is for commercial vehicles. One is for motorcycle gear. The other is an alternative wedding site.</p><p>I see a lot of likely demographic differences. All of this is supposition, with no studies to back it up, so take it with a small mountain of rock salt.<br>There's likely an age difference among those sites. I'd guess that two of the sites skew older than the other. There is also a likely difference in income: one being primarily people with disposable income, one for people with less disposable income, and one being primarily small to medium business owners. There's likely a gender gap among visitors to these sites: one of the sites is probably 75\% women, the other two sites probably have 85+\% men.</p><p>Given those assumptions, I'd argue that young, affluent women are more likely to upgrade their browsers than older small-business owners.<br>In other news, I'm beginning to think water tends to be wet at room temperature, and ice is not very warm relative to fresh waffles.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I looked at reports for three sites for which I have analytics access.Here 're the results .
IE : 53 \ % , 58 \ % , 71 \ % , Firefox : 29 \ % , 27 \ % , 19 \ % , Safari : 13 \ % , 9 \ % , 4 \ % One of the sites is for commercial vehicles .
One is for motorcycle gear .
The other is an alternative wedding site.I see a lot of likely demographic differences .
All of this is supposition , with no studies to back it up , so take it with a small mountain of rock salt.There 's likely an age difference among those sites .
I 'd guess that two of the sites skew older than the other .
There is also a likely difference in income : one being primarily people with disposable income , one for people with less disposable income , and one being primarily small to medium business owners .
There 's likely a gender gap among visitors to these sites : one of the sites is probably 75 \ % women , the other two sites probably have 85 + \ % men.Given those assumptions , I 'd argue that young , affluent women are more likely to upgrade their browsers than older small-business owners.In other news , I 'm beginning to think water tends to be wet at room temperature , and ice is not very warm relative to fresh waffles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I looked at reports for three sites for which I have analytics access.Here're the results.
IE: 53\%, 58\%, 71\%, Firefox: 29\%, 27\%, 19\%, Safari: 13\%, 9\%, 4\%One of the sites is for commercial vehicles.
One is for motorcycle gear.
The other is an alternative wedding site.I see a lot of likely demographic differences.
All of this is supposition, with no studies to back it up, so take it with a small mountain of rock salt.There's likely an age difference among those sites.
I'd guess that two of the sites skew older than the other.
There is also a likely difference in income: one being primarily people with disposable income, one for people with less disposable income, and one being primarily small to medium business owners.
There's likely a gender gap among visitors to these sites: one of the sites is probably 75\% women, the other two sites probably have 85+\% men.Given those assumptions, I'd argue that young, affluent women are more likely to upgrade their browsers than older small-business owners.In other news, I'm beginning to think water tends to be wet at room temperature, and ice is not very warm relative to fresh waffles.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618089</id>
	<title>Re:So?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246990380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Their original strategic reason is still there - they don't want internet applications to replace Windows as the application platform of choice, and to the extent that internet-based applications do take over, they want to control the software platform (ie. IE).  That's why they went to such lengths to drive Netscape out of business, and that's why they keep pouring money into IE development and fighting related antitrust case in the EU, Korea and Japan.  If they gave up and let Firefox take over the browser market, Firefox-only web applications would become viable... and since Firefox is available on multiple operating systems, it would only weaken the Windows monopoly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Their original strategic reason is still there - they do n't want internet applications to replace Windows as the application platform of choice , and to the extent that internet-based applications do take over , they want to control the software platform ( ie .
IE ) . That 's why they went to such lengths to drive Netscape out of business , and that 's why they keep pouring money into IE development and fighting related antitrust case in the EU , Korea and Japan .
If they gave up and let Firefox take over the browser market , Firefox-only web applications would become viable... and since Firefox is available on multiple operating systems , it would only weaken the Windows monopoly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Their original strategic reason is still there - they don't want internet applications to replace Windows as the application platform of choice, and to the extent that internet-based applications do take over, they want to control the software platform (ie.
IE).  That's why they went to such lengths to drive Netscape out of business, and that's why they keep pouring money into IE development and fighting related antitrust case in the EU, Korea and Japan.
If they gave up and let Firefox take over the browser market, Firefox-only web applications would become viable... and since Firefox is available on multiple operating systems, it would only weaken the Windows monopoly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616735</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614717</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246964100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As others said, forget spoofing.</p><p>However, ad blockers break the data collection for most analytics system. So it is likely that Firefox is being underreported, just because the of the popularity of ABP, NoScript, various cookie blockers, and so on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As others said , forget spoofing.However , ad blockers break the data collection for most analytics system .
So it is likely that Firefox is being underreported , just because the of the popularity of ABP , NoScript , various cookie blockers , and so on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As others said, forget spoofing.However, ad blockers break the data collection for most analytics system.
So it is likely that Firefox is being underreported, just because the of the popularity of ABP, NoScript, various cookie blockers, and so on.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614147</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615135</id>
	<title>Re:It's the iPhOnE!</title>
	<author>nsayer</author>
	<datestamp>1246966020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, but there's an app for that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , but there 's an app for that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, but there's an app for that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613993</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28624997</id>
	<title>IE6 usage up for one of our clients</title>
	<author>HannethCom</author>
	<datestamp>1247077680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, you read that right. One of our clients had their IE6 usage climb from about 20\% to about 23\%.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , you read that right .
One of our clients had their IE6 usage climb from about 20 \ % to about 23 \ % .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, you read that right.
One of our clients had their IE6 usage climb from about 20\% to about 23\%.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28624379</id>
	<title>Re:No drop off here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247075580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you are managing Council sites it's unlikely you would see a drop off.</p><p>I work in IT in a UK Council and like most public sector organisations what browser is used is standardised across the whole organisation.</p><p>I use firefox but only because I am a developer. The rest of the organisation (in the tens of thousands) has to use IE6. And their PCs are locked down so they can't use anything else.</p><p>It's unlikely you will ever see a shift away from the OS standard browser in this kind of environment. Follow the same rules across other organisations and you could be looking at a large chunk of IE stats coming from users forced to use IE but who may use firefox/safari/etc. at home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you are managing Council sites it 's unlikely you would see a drop off.I work in IT in a UK Council and like most public sector organisations what browser is used is standardised across the whole organisation.I use firefox but only because I am a developer .
The rest of the organisation ( in the tens of thousands ) has to use IE6 .
And their PCs are locked down so they ca n't use anything else.It 's unlikely you will ever see a shift away from the OS standard browser in this kind of environment .
Follow the same rules across other organisations and you could be looking at a large chunk of IE stats coming from users forced to use IE but who may use firefox/safari/etc .
at home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you are managing Council sites it's unlikely you would see a drop off.I work in IT in a UK Council and like most public sector organisations what browser is used is standardised across the whole organisation.I use firefox but only because I am a developer.
The rest of the organisation (in the tens of thousands) has to use IE6.
And their PCs are locked down so they can't use anything else.It's unlikely you will ever see a shift away from the OS standard browser in this kind of environment.
Follow the same rules across other organisations and you could be looking at a large chunk of IE stats coming from users forced to use IE but who may use firefox/safari/etc.
at home.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614057</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28628761</id>
	<title>Re:w3schools doesn't show anything</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247049660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, I would expect w3schools to be a lagging indicator, since web developers running IE to test in it won't start dropping off until long after it's widely acknowledged that IE's market also has.  Although, to be fair, that belies my own behavior -- I usually visit w3schools in FF or Safari, even if I have an IE open elsewhere for testing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , I would expect w3schools to be a lagging indicator , since web developers running IE to test in it wo n't start dropping off until long after it 's widely acknowledged that IE 's market also has .
Although , to be fair , that belies my own behavior -- I usually visit w3schools in FF or Safari , even if I have an IE open elsewhere for testing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, I would expect w3schools to be a lagging indicator, since web developers running IE to test in it won't start dropping off until long after it's widely acknowledged that IE's market also has.
Although, to be fair, that belies my own behavior -- I usually visit w3schools in FF or Safari, even if I have an IE open elsewhere for testing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614535</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614057</id>
	<title>No drop off here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246961460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We've seen no major drop off, just a steady and slow decline.  We track over 15 million users a day across the sites we manage here in the UK (mainly council properties).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've seen no major drop off , just a steady and slow decline .
We track over 15 million users a day across the sites we manage here in the UK ( mainly council properties ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've seen no major drop off, just a steady and slow decline.
We track over 15 million users a day across the sites we manage here in the UK (mainly council properties).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614315</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>GoNINzo</author>
	<datestamp>1246962360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Er, if they are reporting themselves as a type of browser, then yes, I have accurate usage rates of reported browser type.  It's a non-scientific number, sure, but it's not manufactured to have a desired outcome either.<br>
<br>
In the end, I'm more interested in finding out what browsers my users are using, or even if they are just saying they're using, so I can better tune our site for their needs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Er , if they are reporting themselves as a type of browser , then yes , I have accurate usage rates of reported browser type .
It 's a non-scientific number , sure , but it 's not manufactured to have a desired outcome either .
In the end , I 'm more interested in finding out what browsers my users are using , or even if they are just saying they 're using , so I can better tune our site for their needs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Er, if they are reporting themselves as a type of browser, then yes, I have accurate usage rates of reported browser type.
It's a non-scientific number, sure, but it's not manufactured to have a desired outcome either.
In the end, I'm more interested in finding out what browsers my users are using, or even if they are just saying they're using, so I can better tune our site for their needs.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614147</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614291</id>
	<title>end of semester</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246962300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Could this be in part attributed to the time of year?  There is less surfing at schools and universities that run IE and more usage at home with the alternative browsers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Could this be in part attributed to the time of year ?
There is less surfing at schools and universities that run IE and more usage at home with the alternative browsers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could this be in part attributed to the time of year?
There is less surfing at schools and universities that run IE and more usage at home with the alternative browsers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615443</id>
	<title>Re:It's because IE 6 support was droped on some si</title>
	<author>merreborn</author>
	<datestamp>1246968120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>There are a few sites where IE 6.0 displays things badly because the web master stopped kludging for it.</p><p>Slashdot.org<br>some parts of Google.<br>(Help me here!)</p><p>Joe-six paks noticed this and has found out that he has options...</p></div></blockquote><p>There are several places around facebook that tell you to upgrade your browser if you visit with IE 6.</p><p>We're big fans of that around the office.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are a few sites where IE 6.0 displays things badly because the web master stopped kludging for it.Slashdot.orgsome parts of Google .
( Help me here !
) Joe-six paks noticed this and has found out that he has options...There are several places around facebook that tell you to upgrade your browser if you visit with IE 6.We 're big fans of that around the office .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are a few sites where IE 6.0 displays things badly because the web master stopped kludging for it.Slashdot.orgsome parts of Google.
(Help me here!
)Joe-six paks noticed this and has found out that he has options...There are several places around facebook that tell you to upgrade your browser if you visit with IE 6.We're big fans of that around the office.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614103</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614569</id>
	<title>Re:MJ Factor, plus, it is summer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246963440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>not to mention holidays and layoffs hitting corporate users hard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>not to mention holidays and layoffs hitting corporate users hard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>not to mention holidays and layoffs hitting corporate users hard.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614243</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616633</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>complete loony</author>
	<datestamp>1246976940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Good point, I wonder if there is a link between browser usage and the state of the economy. With all the people being fired from work in the last 6-12 months, there's less people being forced to browse the net with IE from their work desktop and the remaining staff may be too busy and / or scared of being fired to browse too much...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good point , I wonder if there is a link between browser usage and the state of the economy .
With all the people being fired from work in the last 6-12 months , there 's less people being forced to browse the net with IE from their work desktop and the remaining staff may be too busy and / or scared of being fired to browse too much.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good point, I wonder if there is a link between browser usage and the state of the economy.
With all the people being fired from work in the last 6-12 months, there's less people being forced to browse the net with IE from their work desktop and the remaining staff may be too busy and / or scared of being fired to browse too much...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614207</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614393</id>
	<title>~20\% here, and still in decline</title>
	<author>Enleth</author>
	<datestamp>1246962720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's for a major Polish website devoted to a popular, long-running game series. The userbase is indeed a little more tech-conscious than the average Internet user around here, but not by much - just a few power gamers and techies, lots of "casuals". Nevertheless, IE was at ~70\% in 2004, ~50\% in 2005 and so on down to ~25\% in the late 2008 and ~20\% now. Right now it's kind of stabilizing (but still falling) and I don't forsee it falling below 15\% anytime soon, but I'm starting to  suspect that by the end of the year, Opera might overtake it (16\% and rising, mostly ex-Firefox users right now).</p><p>We're not actively doing anything anti-IE or pro-FF/Opera (well, maybe except that IE is getting all the CSS/JS bugfixes lats, but that's *because* it's so low in the stats - we can afford letting the IE support lag behind), so it's mostly an outside trend, I think.</p><p>All the statistics I'm basing this post on were generated by Google Analytics, by the way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's for a major Polish website devoted to a popular , long-running game series .
The userbase is indeed a little more tech-conscious than the average Internet user around here , but not by much - just a few power gamers and techies , lots of " casuals " .
Nevertheless , IE was at ~ 70 \ % in 2004 , ~ 50 \ % in 2005 and so on down to ~ 25 \ % in the late 2008 and ~ 20 \ % now .
Right now it 's kind of stabilizing ( but still falling ) and I do n't forsee it falling below 15 \ % anytime soon , but I 'm starting to suspect that by the end of the year , Opera might overtake it ( 16 \ % and rising , mostly ex-Firefox users right now ) .We 're not actively doing anything anti-IE or pro-FF/Opera ( well , maybe except that IE is getting all the CSS/JS bugfixes lats , but that 's * because * it 's so low in the stats - we can afford letting the IE support lag behind ) , so it 's mostly an outside trend , I think.All the statistics I 'm basing this post on were generated by Google Analytics , by the way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's for a major Polish website devoted to a popular, long-running game series.
The userbase is indeed a little more tech-conscious than the average Internet user around here, but not by much - just a few power gamers and techies, lots of "casuals".
Nevertheless, IE was at ~70\% in 2004, ~50\% in 2005 and so on down to ~25\% in the late 2008 and ~20\% now.
Right now it's kind of stabilizing (but still falling) and I don't forsee it falling below 15\% anytime soon, but I'm starting to  suspect that by the end of the year, Opera might overtake it (16\% and rising, mostly ex-Firefox users right now).We're not actively doing anything anti-IE or pro-FF/Opera (well, maybe except that IE is getting all the CSS/JS bugfixes lats, but that's *because* it's so low in the stats - we can afford letting the IE support lag behind), so it's mostly an outside trend, I think.All the statistics I'm basing this post on were generated by Google Analytics, by the way.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616235</id>
	<title>What is this IE of which you speak?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246973760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry, all we use are Firefox, Opera, and Safari.</p><p>Is this some kind of fake browser that provides security holes free of charge?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , all we use are Firefox , Opera , and Safari.Is this some kind of fake browser that provides security holes free of charge ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, all we use are Firefox, Opera, and Safari.Is this some kind of fake browser that provides security holes free of charge?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618661</id>
	<title>our site doesn't support ie6</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247083740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the site I am currently working on we push for an upgrade to ie7 or some other browser that isn't ie6. Since it is a fairly popular site, I suspect ie6 usage will drop off soon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the site I am currently working on we push for an upgrade to ie7 or some other browser that is n't ie6 .
Since it is a fairly popular site , I suspect ie6 usage will drop off soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the site I am currently working on we push for an upgrade to ie7 or some other browser that isn't ie6.
Since it is a fairly popular site, I suspect ie6 usage will drop off soon.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28617649</id>
	<title>Re:Slashdot browser shares??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246986240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You forgot the traditional last option:<blockquote><div><p>Internet Explorer: 0.37\%<br>
Firefox: 13.45\%<br>
Safari: 4.23\%<br>
Chrome: 6.97\%<br>
Lynx: 22.43\%<br>
Self-created web browser: 23.12\%<br>
No browser - reading HTML directly: 14.22\%<br>
No browser - interpreting modem signals directly: 15.21\%</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Cowboy Neal:<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.01\%</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You forgot the traditional last option : Internet Explorer : 0.37 \ % Firefox : 13.45 \ % Safari : 4.23 \ % Chrome : 6.97 \ % Lynx : 22.43 \ % Self-created web browser : 23.12 \ % No browser - reading HTML directly : 14.22 \ % No browser - interpreting modem signals directly : 15.21 \ % Cowboy Neal : .01 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You forgot the traditional last option:Internet Explorer: 0.37\%
Firefox: 13.45\%
Safari: 4.23\%
Chrome: 6.97\%
Lynx: 22.43\%
Self-created web browser: 23.12\%
No browser - reading HTML directly: 14.22\%
No browser - interpreting modem signals directly: 15.21\%

Cowboy Neal: .01\%
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618503</id>
	<title>server on my box</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246995240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've setup an apache server on my box to share some photo's and data with my friends. Only one of them was using IE. The rest of them mostly chrome, one safari, and about two firefox users.</p><p>Even my dad is switching<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've setup an apache server on my box to share some photo 's and data with my friends .
Only one of them was using IE .
The rest of them mostly chrome , one safari , and about two firefox users.Even my dad is switching ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've setup an apache server on my box to share some photo's and data with my friends.
Only one of them was using IE.
The rest of them mostly chrome, one safari, and about two firefox users.Even my dad is switching ;)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614927</id>
	<title>Will drop further surely</title>
	<author>nixish</author>
	<datestamp>1246965000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think it's a matter of "when" rather than "if" that the IE share will tumble further down due to the EU requirement that MS's OS give a browser choice to customers. It's inevitable that the playing field will be level soon. (I am counting on the fact that such a law exists in our US too)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's a matter of " when " rather than " if " that the IE share will tumble further down due to the EU requirement that MS 's OS give a browser choice to customers .
It 's inevitable that the playing field will be level soon .
( I am counting on the fact that such a law exists in our US too )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's a matter of "when" rather than "if" that the IE share will tumble further down due to the EU requirement that MS's OS give a browser choice to customers.
It's inevitable that the playing field will be level soon.
(I am counting on the fact that such a law exists in our US too)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615001</id>
	<title>Re:Segment and conquer</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1246965300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser\_version-DE-daily-20080701-20090707" title="statcounter.com">Yes, it has, indeed</a> [statcounter.com]!<br>And that with many Firefox users using AdBlock Plus, which blocks Statcounter pixels (and in fact everything from those domains) by default. I had to disable it, for the site to load any graphics, scripts, etc.<br>(Oh, and "Other" must be Firefox 3.5, which just came out.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , it has , indeed [ statcounter.com ] ! And that with many Firefox users using AdBlock Plus , which blocks Statcounter pixels ( and in fact everything from those domains ) by default .
I had to disable it , for the site to load any graphics , scripts , etc .
( Oh , and " Other " must be Firefox 3.5 , which just came out .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, it has, indeed [statcounter.com]!And that with many Firefox users using AdBlock Plus, which blocks Statcounter pixels (and in fact everything from those domains) by default.
I had to disable it, for the site to load any graphics, scripts, etc.
(Oh, and "Other" must be Firefox 3.5, which just came out.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613975</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615081</id>
	<title>Haven't noticed a thing</title>
	<author>Runaway1956</author>
	<datestamp>1246965720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Have any of you seen drops in IE usage share for Web-sites you administer?"</p><p>IE users never manage to load my site, for some reason.  Of course, no one would be stupid enough to actually BREAK their own site for IE users, would they?  That little script that redirects any browser identifying itself as IE to my "YOU'RE AN IDIOT! GET A REAL BROWSER STOOPID!" page wouldn't influence anyone, would it?  It certainly wouldn't bias my statistics!</p><p>So, my figures are at least as fair, balanced, and unbiased as Fox News.</p><p>IE usage has been below 1\% for a long, long, long time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Have any of you seen drops in IE usage share for Web-sites you administer ?
" IE users never manage to load my site , for some reason .
Of course , no one would be stupid enough to actually BREAK their own site for IE users , would they ?
That little script that redirects any browser identifying itself as IE to my " YOU 'RE AN IDIOT !
GET A REAL BROWSER STOOPID !
" page would n't influence anyone , would it ?
It certainly would n't bias my statistics ! So , my figures are at least as fair , balanced , and unbiased as Fox News.IE usage has been below 1 \ % for a long , long , long time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Have any of you seen drops in IE usage share for Web-sites you administer?
"IE users never manage to load my site, for some reason.
Of course, no one would be stupid enough to actually BREAK their own site for IE users, would they?
That little script that redirects any browser identifying itself as IE to my "YOU'RE AN IDIOT!
GET A REAL BROWSER STOOPID!
" page wouldn't influence anyone, would it?
It certainly wouldn't bias my statistics!So, my figures are at least as fair, balanced, and unbiased as Fox News.IE usage has been below 1\% for a long, long, long time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28621455</id>
	<title>IE8</title>
	<author>Zebra\_X</author>
	<datestamp>1247065080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps someone already brought this up - IE 8 may have a user agent string that is not being grokked properly. IE 8 has been a recommended update for about the last month and a half and that coincides nicely with the anomalous statistics.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps someone already brought this up - IE 8 may have a user agent string that is not being grokked properly .
IE 8 has been a recommended update for about the last month and a half and that coincides nicely with the anomalous statistics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps someone already brought this up - IE 8 may have a user agent string that is not being grokked properly.
IE 8 has been a recommended update for about the last month and a half and that coincides nicely with the anomalous statistics.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614403</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>dedazo</author>
	<datestamp>1246962780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>2001 called and said you can't use that tired old argument anymore. The default install of Firefox since 2.x (I believe) does not spoof IE in the user agent string. Firefox being the largest market share aside from any version of IE, the weight given to any other browser would be a statistical blip at best. In fact, if I remember correctly Konqueror in KDE3 and 4 actually spoofs Gecko by default. And Opera stopped spoofing MSIE after 6.x, IIRC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>2001 called and said you ca n't use that tired old argument anymore .
The default install of Firefox since 2.x ( I believe ) does not spoof IE in the user agent string .
Firefox being the largest market share aside from any version of IE , the weight given to any other browser would be a statistical blip at best .
In fact , if I remember correctly Konqueror in KDE3 and 4 actually spoofs Gecko by default .
And Opera stopped spoofing MSIE after 6.x , IIRC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2001 called and said you can't use that tired old argument anymore.
The default install of Firefox since 2.x (I believe) does not spoof IE in the user agent string.
Firefox being the largest market share aside from any version of IE, the weight given to any other browser would be a statistical blip at best.
In fact, if I remember correctly Konqueror in KDE3 and 4 actually spoofs Gecko by default.
And Opera stopped spoofing MSIE after 6.x, IIRC.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614147</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618195</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>lapinmalin</author>
	<datestamp>1246991820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>i'm running a large technology website, the results are:
MSIE 8 : 11\%
MSIE 7: 32\%
MSIE 6: 36\%
FIREFOX: 15\%
SAFARI: 3\%</htmltext>
<tokenext>i 'm running a large technology website , the results are : MSIE 8 : 11 \ % MSIE 7 : 32 \ % MSIE 6 : 36 \ % FIREFOX : 15 \ % SAFARI : 3 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i'm running a large technology website, the results are:
MSIE 8 : 11\%
MSIE 7: 32\%
MSIE 6: 36\%
FIREFOX: 15\%
SAFARI: 3\%</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614055</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28624029</id>
	<title>Down, way down on my site.</title>
	<author>stonewolf</author>
	<datestamp>1247074440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I checked December 2008 and June 2009. I only looked at pages, not at requests, and I did not factor out robots. I have roughly 235k page views in both months. In 12/2008 17\% were from all versions of IE. In 6/2009 only 3\% were from all versions of IE. In 6/2009 IE 8 was on the list of browsers.</p><p>My site appeals to game programmers so the viewers are mostly geeks like me and it has always been light on IE visitors. But, wow, only 3\%?</p><p>Stonewolf</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I checked December 2008 and June 2009 .
I only looked at pages , not at requests , and I did not factor out robots .
I have roughly 235k page views in both months .
In 12/2008 17 \ % were from all versions of IE .
In 6/2009 only 3 \ % were from all versions of IE .
In 6/2009 IE 8 was on the list of browsers.My site appeals to game programmers so the viewers are mostly geeks like me and it has always been light on IE visitors .
But , wow , only 3 \ % ? Stonewolf</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I checked December 2008 and June 2009.
I only looked at pages, not at requests, and I did not factor out robots.
I have roughly 235k page views in both months.
In 12/2008 17\% were from all versions of IE.
In 6/2009 only 3\% were from all versions of IE.
In 6/2009 IE 8 was on the list of browsers.My site appeals to game programmers so the viewers are mostly geeks like me and it has always been light on IE visitors.
But, wow, only 3\%?Stonewolf</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616495</id>
	<title>Share dropping</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246975800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, I have been seeing a steady decline in the percentace of IE compared to other browsers. Astonishing as most of these sites are inside our network where our corporate desktop image is XP and IE is our officially supported browser 8)<br>Same or similar stats however on our public sites, again mostly visted by corporates, but many are allowing multiple broser platforms now, and many users choosing to use an alternative browser where they can.<br>Also seeing a large upturn in iPhone Safari over in mobile IE. Ie, Win Mobile, almost nothing, but mobile safari getting up close to a full 1\%</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , I have been seeing a steady decline in the percentace of IE compared to other browsers .
Astonishing as most of these sites are inside our network where our corporate desktop image is XP and IE is our officially supported browser 8 ) Same or similar stats however on our public sites , again mostly visted by corporates , but many are allowing multiple broser platforms now , and many users choosing to use an alternative browser where they can.Also seeing a large upturn in iPhone Safari over in mobile IE .
Ie , Win Mobile , almost nothing , but mobile safari getting up close to a full 1 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, I have been seeing a steady decline in the percentace of IE compared to other browsers.
Astonishing as most of these sites are inside our network where our corporate desktop image is XP and IE is our officially supported browser 8)Same or similar stats however on our public sites, again mostly visted by corporates, but many are allowing multiple broser platforms now, and many users choosing to use an alternative browser where they can.Also seeing a large upturn in iPhone Safari over in mobile IE.
Ie, Win Mobile, almost nothing, but mobile safari getting up close to a full 1\%</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615091</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246965780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What I noticed is a dramatic shift in the listening to <i>your</i> IT guy lately.</p></div><p>In other news, we're firing our IT guy for letting you hack our webcams.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What I noticed is a dramatic shift in the listening to your IT guy lately.In other news , we 're firing our IT guy for letting you hack our webcams .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I noticed is a dramatic shift in the listening to your IT guy lately.In other news, we're firing our IT guy for letting you hack our webcams.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614207</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614253</id>
	<title>Re:Proliferation of mobile browsers...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246962120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>All mobile browsing combined probably doesn't break 1\% of Web usage. The chances that any large-scale swing has anything to do with mobile browsing are very, very, very slim.</htmltext>
<tokenext>All mobile browsing combined probably does n't break 1 \ % of Web usage .
The chances that any large-scale swing has anything to do with mobile browsing are very , very , very slim .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All mobile browsing combined probably doesn't break 1\% of Web usage.
The chances that any large-scale swing has anything to do with mobile browsing are very, very, very slim.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28613977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28618907</id>
	<title>hmm</title>
	<author>thatblackguy</author>
	<datestamp>1247086380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Probably, though it still will be large. woots test.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably , though it still will be large .
woots test .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably, though it still will be large.
woots test.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614663</id>
	<title>Slashdot browser shares??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246963920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What I really would like to see is the browser share of the Slashdot logs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What I really would like to see is the browser share of the Slashdot logs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I really would like to see is the browser share of the Slashdot logs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614833</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>Gospodin</author>
	<datestamp>1246964580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>FWIW, my stats over the past 6 months (plus 5 days of July):<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Jan&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Feb&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Mar&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Apr&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;May&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Jun&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Jul (partial)<br>IE&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 82.2&nbsp; &nbsp; 80.7&nbsp; &nbsp; 79.6&nbsp; &nbsp; 77.2&nbsp; &nbsp; 78.1&nbsp; &nbsp; 77.3&nbsp; &nbsp; 75.3<br>Firefox 11.9&nbsp; &nbsp; 13.4&nbsp; &nbsp; 14.3&nbsp; &nbsp; 15.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 14.0&nbsp; &nbsp; 14.6&nbsp; &nbsp; 15.5<br>Safari&nbsp; &nbsp;3.2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;3.5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;3.7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;4.4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;4.3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;5.2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;6.4<br>Others&nbsp; &nbsp;2.7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;2.4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;2.4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;2.6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;3.6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;2.9&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;2.8<br><br>The site is for a financial company and skews toward an older demographic.</tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>FWIW , my stats over the past 6 months ( plus 5 days of July ) :         Jan       Feb       Mar       Apr       May       Jun       Jul ( partial ) IE       82.2     80.7     79.6     77.2     78.1     77.3     75.3Firefox 11.9     13.4     14.3     15.8     14.0     14.6     15.5Safari     3.2       3.5       3.7       4.4       4.3       5.2       6.4Others     2.7       2.4       2.4       2.6       3.6       2.9       2.8The site is for a financial company and skews toward an older demographic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FWIW, my stats over the past 6 months (plus 5 days of July):        Jan     Feb     Mar     Apr     May     Jun     Jul (partial)IE      82.2    80.7    79.6    77.2    78.1    77.3    75.3Firefox 11.9    13.4    14.3    15.8    14.0    14.6    15.5Safari   3.2     3.5     3.7     4.4     4.3     5.2     6.4Others   2.7     2.4     2.4     2.6     3.6     2.9     2.8The site is for a financial company and skews toward an older demographic.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614309</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616597</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>Landshark17</author>
	<datestamp>1246976580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"I love a bad economy, it forces people to be less stupid."</i> <br> <br>Oh, I don't know. I think it just forces them to be stupid in new and different ways.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" I love a bad economy , it forces people to be less stupid .
" Oh , I do n't know .
I think it just forces them to be stupid in new and different ways .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I love a bad economy, it forces people to be less stupid.
"  Oh, I don't know.
I think it just forces them to be stupid in new and different ways.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614207</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28620843</id>
	<title>Re:typo in summary</title>
	<author>Marcos Eliziario</author>
	<datestamp>1247063040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe the proeminent add for chrome on gmail pages stating that you could browse faster using chrome is finally working (It appear randomly when you're using IE on Windows)</p><p>To me, it doesn't seem very ethical for google to leverage a strong position on email to promote their browser, but it looks like I am the only one who feels this way, after all nobody from Microsoft, Mozilla, Opera or Apple has complained yet.</p><p>Now, imagine the outrage if everytime someone opened their hotmail account using a browser other than IE, they received a message stating something like:<br>"You could browse hotmail faster using Internet Explorer, GET IT HERE"</p><p>Hell would break loose for sure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe the proeminent add for chrome on gmail pages stating that you could browse faster using chrome is finally working ( It appear randomly when you 're using IE on Windows ) To me , it does n't seem very ethical for google to leverage a strong position on email to promote their browser , but it looks like I am the only one who feels this way , after all nobody from Microsoft , Mozilla , Opera or Apple has complained yet.Now , imagine the outrage if everytime someone opened their hotmail account using a browser other than IE , they received a message stating something like : " You could browse hotmail faster using Internet Explorer , GET IT HERE " Hell would break loose for sure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe the proeminent add for chrome on gmail pages stating that you could browse faster using chrome is finally working (It appear randomly when you're using IE on Windows)To me, it doesn't seem very ethical for google to leverage a strong position on email to promote their browser, but it looks like I am the only one who feels this way, after all nobody from Microsoft, Mozilla, Opera or Apple has complained yet.Now, imagine the outrage if everytime someone opened their hotmail account using a browser other than IE, they received a message stating something like:"You could browse hotmail faster using Internet Explorer, GET IT HERE"Hell would break loose for sure.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614277</id>
	<title>I CHANGED IT.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246962240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <b>Window</b> just isn't ready for the intelligent yet. It may be ready for the web servers that you blonds use to distribute your porous subroutines across the world wide web, but the average computer user isn't going to spend months learning how to use a CLI and then hours compiling packages so that they can get a workable graphic interface to check their mail with because they don't have to with Linux, especially not when they already have a Windows machine that is so security flawed and is backed by a major corporation, as opposed to Linux which is only supported by a few million developers verses a few hundred droids. The last thing I want is a level 5 windows dwarf providing me my secure-less OS.</p></div><p>There I fixed that for you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Window just is n't ready for the intelligent yet .
It may be ready for the web servers that you blonds use to distribute your porous subroutines across the world wide web , but the average computer user is n't going to spend months learning how to use a CLI and then hours compiling packages so that they can get a workable graphic interface to check their mail with because they do n't have to with Linux , especially not when they already have a Windows machine that is so security flawed and is backed by a major corporation , as opposed to Linux which is only supported by a few million developers verses a few hundred droids .
The last thing I want is a level 5 windows dwarf providing me my secure-less OS.There I fixed that for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Window just isn't ready for the intelligent yet.
It may be ready for the web servers that you blonds use to distribute your porous subroutines across the world wide web, but the average computer user isn't going to spend months learning how to use a CLI and then hours compiling packages so that they can get a workable graphic interface to check their mail with because they don't have to with Linux, especially not when they already have a Windows machine that is so security flawed and is backed by a major corporation, as opposed to Linux which is only supported by a few million developers verses a few hundred droids.
The last thing I want is a level 5 windows dwarf providing me my secure-less OS.There I fixed that for you.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614493</id>
	<title>Re:MJ Factor, plus, it is summer</title>
	<author>nschubach</author>
	<datestamp>1246963080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, now that I think about it...</p><p>If that's true, that would only show that IE is only popular <b>because</b> of silly campus/business mandates that their students/employees be forced to use IE and that they choose to use other browsers when they can.  I know I fall into that situation.  I'm sure I'm not alone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , now that I think about it...If that 's true , that would only show that IE is only popular because of silly campus/business mandates that their students/employees be forced to use IE and that they choose to use other browsers when they can .
I know I fall into that situation .
I 'm sure I 'm not alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, now that I think about it...If that's true, that would only show that IE is only popular because of silly campus/business mandates that their students/employees be forced to use IE and that they choose to use other browsers when they can.
I know I fall into that situation.
I'm sure I'm not alone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614243</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615361</id>
	<title>Browser usage in a college atmosphere</title>
	<author>Nalk</author>
	<datestamp>1246967580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Interesting usage statistics from the union website of a technical university:

Students are required to buy a school-issued Thinkpad. For the last 3 years the Thinkpad has had a 1680 by 1050 screen. Among users of the union website who are on the the school's ISP and using a 1680 by 1050 screen, 53\% use Chrome, 38\% use Firefox, and 6\% use IE. The share of firefox users declines even more when the results are filtered to Windows only.

Data for non-1680 by 1050 screens is as follows: Firefox 54\%, Chrome 33\%, IE 11\%

This shows that college age kids are much more receptive to Google's browser, while professors, staff, and lab users favor Firefox.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Interesting usage statistics from the union website of a technical university : Students are required to buy a school-issued Thinkpad .
For the last 3 years the Thinkpad has had a 1680 by 1050 screen .
Among users of the union website who are on the the school 's ISP and using a 1680 by 1050 screen , 53 \ % use Chrome , 38 \ % use Firefox , and 6 \ % use IE .
The share of firefox users declines even more when the results are filtered to Windows only .
Data for non-1680 by 1050 screens is as follows : Firefox 54 \ % , Chrome 33 \ % , IE 11 \ % This shows that college age kids are much more receptive to Google 's browser , while professors , staff , and lab users favor Firefox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interesting usage statistics from the union website of a technical university:

Students are required to buy a school-issued Thinkpad.
For the last 3 years the Thinkpad has had a 1680 by 1050 screen.
Among users of the union website who are on the the school's ISP and using a 1680 by 1050 screen, 53\% use Chrome, 38\% use Firefox, and 6\% use IE.
The share of firefox users declines even more when the results are filtered to Windows only.
Data for non-1680 by 1050 screens is as follows: Firefox 54\%, Chrome 33\%, IE 11\%

This shows that college age kids are much more receptive to Google's browser, while professors, staff, and lab users favor Firefox.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614127</id>
	<title>Skeptical</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246961640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So it will probably be healthy to remain skeptical until trend this is confirmed by other organizations.</p> </div><p>Especially after all the breathless "Firefox is taking over" stories on Slashdot, submitted by fanboys every time there's a spike in downloads (like after a release!) or the browser's market share gains a tiny fraction of a percent.</p><p>Mind you, I'm really glad to see that we're finally getting some serious competition in the browser marketplace. But before you congratulate yourselves too much, send a psychic "Thanks for Shooting Yourselves in the Foot!" to Steve and Bill. Firefox, Safari, Chrome and Opera all have real advantages, but none of these would have overcome IE's big advantage: being the default browser on the desktop OS that owns 90\% of its market. The only thing that could have overcome that advantage is not the advantages of the competition, but the extreme crappiness of IE itself.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So it will probably be healthy to remain skeptical until trend this is confirmed by other organizations .
Especially after all the breathless " Firefox is taking over " stories on Slashdot , submitted by fanboys every time there 's a spike in downloads ( like after a release !
) or the browser 's market share gains a tiny fraction of a percent.Mind you , I 'm really glad to see that we 're finally getting some serious competition in the browser marketplace .
But before you congratulate yourselves too much , send a psychic " Thanks for Shooting Yourselves in the Foot !
" to Steve and Bill .
Firefox , Safari , Chrome and Opera all have real advantages , but none of these would have overcome IE 's big advantage : being the default browser on the desktop OS that owns 90 \ % of its market .
The only thing that could have overcome that advantage is not the advantages of the competition , but the extreme crappiness of IE itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So it will probably be healthy to remain skeptical until trend this is confirmed by other organizations.
Especially after all the breathless "Firefox is taking over" stories on Slashdot, submitted by fanboys every time there's a spike in downloads (like after a release!
) or the browser's market share gains a tiny fraction of a percent.Mind you, I'm really glad to see that we're finally getting some serious competition in the browser marketplace.
But before you congratulate yourselves too much, send a psychic "Thanks for Shooting Yourselves in the Foot!
" to Steve and Bill.
Firefox, Safari, Chrome and Opera all have real advantages, but none of these would have overcome IE's big advantage: being the default browser on the desktop OS that owns 90\% of its market.
The only thing that could have overcome that advantage is not the advantages of the competition, but the extreme crappiness of IE itself.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614183</id>
	<title>Re:It was to be expected</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246961820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It always takes a while to educate the whole population with regards to technical stuff, after a while, it becomes public knowledge although<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)))</p></div><p>The tough part isn't making it public knowledge, the difficulty is in making it common knowledge.<br> <br>To compare this to more sinister things: Notice of your house being demolished on Tuesday can be put up in a dark cellar with no stairs at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory of the planning office guarded by a Leopard. This is public knowledge.<br> <br>Making a news cast on the fact a new road is being run through your neighbourhood and personally notifying everyone whose house will be demolished is much more difficult. This is common knowlege.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It always takes a while to educate the whole population with regards to technical stuff , after a while , it becomes public knowledge although ; - ) ) ) The tough part is n't making it public knowledge , the difficulty is in making it common knowledge .
To compare this to more sinister things : Notice of your house being demolished on Tuesday can be put up in a dark cellar with no stairs at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory of the planning office guarded by a Leopard .
This is public knowledge .
Making a news cast on the fact a new road is being run through your neighbourhood and personally notifying everyone whose house will be demolished is much more difficult .
This is common knowlege .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It always takes a while to educate the whole population with regards to technical stuff, after a while, it becomes public knowledge although ;-)))The tough part isn't making it public knowledge, the difficulty is in making it common knowledge.
To compare this to more sinister things: Notice of your house being demolished on Tuesday can be put up in a dark cellar with no stairs at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory of the planning office guarded by a Leopard.
This is public knowledge.
Making a news cast on the fact a new road is being run through your neighbourhood and personally notifying everyone whose house will be demolished is much more difficult.
This is common knowlege.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614091</id>
	<title>even less, here</title>
	<author>phriedrich</author>
	<datestamp>1246961580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>On some small pages I have to maintain the rates of IE dropped below 50\%.

The highest IE-rate I got on a page for a hotel with 46\% and the lowest with 28\% on the one for my soaring club.</htmltext>
<tokenext>On some small pages I have to maintain the rates of IE dropped below 50 \ % .
The highest IE-rate I got on a page for a hotel with 46 \ % and the lowest with 28 \ % on the one for my soaring club .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On some small pages I have to maintain the rates of IE dropped below 50\%.
The highest IE-rate I got on a page for a hotel with 46\% and the lowest with 28\% on the one for my soaring club.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614525</id>
	<title>Re:MJ Factor, plus, it is summer</title>
	<author>AscianBound</author>
	<datestamp>1246963260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I doubt this school effect is really as significant as you claim (with no support).  And even then, probably a decent portion of school computers use alternatives to IE.

As equally anecdotal counter-evidence to your claim that summer decreases IE usage, I'd like to point out that the browser I am forced to use at my summer workplace is IE.  There is no reason to believe that changes in user habits during summer will only move away from IE.

And finally, has this kind of change away from IE been seen before during the summer?  I do not keep up with broswer shares, but if this was normal for summer, I doubt people would be pointing it out or checking their numbers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt this school effect is really as significant as you claim ( with no support ) .
And even then , probably a decent portion of school computers use alternatives to IE .
As equally anecdotal counter-evidence to your claim that summer decreases IE usage , I 'd like to point out that the browser I am forced to use at my summer workplace is IE .
There is no reason to believe that changes in user habits during summer will only move away from IE .
And finally , has this kind of change away from IE been seen before during the summer ?
I do not keep up with broswer shares , but if this was normal for summer , I doubt people would be pointing it out or checking their numbers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt this school effect is really as significant as you claim (with no support).
And even then, probably a decent portion of school computers use alternatives to IE.
As equally anecdotal counter-evidence to your claim that summer decreases IE usage, I'd like to point out that the browser I am forced to use at my summer workplace is IE.
There is no reason to believe that changes in user habits during summer will only move away from IE.
And finally, has this kind of change away from IE been seen before during the summer?
I do not keep up with broswer shares, but if this was normal for summer, I doubt people would be pointing it out or checking their numbers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28619933</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1247058900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A fairly large non-tech site I used to manage (hence Anonymous), around 35m visits/month according to google analytics:</p><p>1. Internet Explorer<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; June 7, 2009 - July 7, 2009  27,737,260  77.36\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; May 7, 2009 - June 6, 2009  26,546,644  76.41\%<br>2. Firefox<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; June 7, 2009 - July 7, 2009  6,886,801  19.21\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; May 7, 2009 - June 6, 2009  7,079,929  20.38\%<br>3. Chrome<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; June 7, 2009 - July 7, 2009  628,624  1.75\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; May 7, 2009 - June 6, 2009  553,845  1.59\%<br>4. Safari<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; June 7, 2009 - July 7, 2009  410,155  1.14\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; May 7, 2009 - June 6, 2009  367,545  1.06\%<br>5. Opera<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; June 7, 2009 - July 7, 2009  146,112  0.41\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; May 7, 2009 - June 6, 2009  150,814  0.43\%</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A fairly large non-tech site I used to manage ( hence Anonymous ) , around 35m visits/month according to google analytics : 1 .
Internet Explorer     June 7 , 2009 - July 7 , 2009 27,737,260 77.36 \ %     May 7 , 2009 - June 6 , 2009 26,546,644 76.41 \ % 2 .
Firefox     June 7 , 2009 - July 7 , 2009 6,886,801 19.21 \ %     May 7 , 2009 - June 6 , 2009 7,079,929 20.38 \ % 3 .
Chrome     June 7 , 2009 - July 7 , 2009 628,624 1.75 \ %     May 7 , 2009 - June 6 , 2009 553,845 1.59 \ % 4 .
Safari     June 7 , 2009 - July 7 , 2009 410,155 1.14 \ %     May 7 , 2009 - June 6 , 2009 367,545 1.06 \ % 5 .
Opera     June 7 , 2009 - July 7 , 2009 146,112 0.41 \ %     May 7 , 2009 - June 6 , 2009 150,814 0.43 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A fairly large non-tech site I used to manage (hence Anonymous), around 35m visits/month according to google analytics:1.
Internet Explorer
    June 7, 2009 - July 7, 2009  27,737,260  77.36\%
    May 7, 2009 - June 6, 2009  26,546,644  76.41\%2.
Firefox
    June 7, 2009 - July 7, 2009  6,886,801  19.21\%
    May 7, 2009 - June 6, 2009  7,079,929  20.38\%3.
Chrome
    June 7, 2009 - July 7, 2009  628,624  1.75\%
    May 7, 2009 - June 6, 2009  553,845  1.59\%4.
Safari
    June 7, 2009 - July 7, 2009  410,155  1.14\%
    May 7, 2009 - June 6, 2009  367,545  1.06\%5.
Opera
    June 7, 2009 - July 7, 2009  146,112  0.41\%
    May 7, 2009 - June 6, 2009  150,814  0.43\%</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28615891</id>
	<title>Re:My statistics</title>
	<author>Daengbo</author>
	<datestamp>1246970760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4MwTvtyrUQ&amp;feature=player\_embedded" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">8\% of people even know what a browser is</a> [youtube.com], much less a user agent string.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only 8 \ % of people even know what a browser is [ youtube.com ] , much less a user agent string .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only 8\% of people even know what a browser is [youtube.com], much less a user agent string.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614603</id>
	<title>Re:MJ Factor, plus, it is summer</title>
	<author>hydromike2</author>
	<datestamp>1246963620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>um, IE is not being <i>skewed down</i>, that means that when people have the choice of what browser is installed on the machine they use it is something other than IE, so it could be said that during the school year IE is skewed <i>UP</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>um , IE is not being skewed down , that means that when people have the choice of what browser is installed on the machine they use it is something other than IE , so it could be said that during the school year IE is skewed UP</tokentext>
<sentencetext>um, IE is not being skewed down, that means that when people have the choice of what browser is installed on the machine they use it is something other than IE, so it could be said that during the school year IE is skewed UP</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614581</id>
	<title>Re:hmm.... it's summer?</title>
	<author>asa</author>
	<datestamp>1246963500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, summertime is the worst time for Firefox usage.  Firefox is a much larger percentage of European usage than U.S. usage and so when Europe goes on summer vacation for a few months, Firefox's global share falls measurably.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , summertime is the worst time for Firefox usage .
Firefox is a much larger percentage of European usage than U.S. usage and so when Europe goes on summer vacation for a few months , Firefox 's global share falls measurably .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, summertime is the worst time for Firefox usage.
Firefox is a much larger percentage of European usage than U.S. usage and so when Europe goes on summer vacation for a few months, Firefox's global share falls measurably.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28616297</id>
	<title>Re:hmm.... it's summer?</title>
	<author>tibman</author>
	<datestamp>1246974180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would hope those Europeans don't just disappear, they must be somewhere in the world</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would hope those Europeans do n't just disappear , they must be somewhere in the world</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would hope those Europeans don't just disappear, they must be somewhere in the world</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28614229</id>
	<title>I know why its broken....</title>
	<author>twebb72</author>
	<datestamp>1246962000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Q: Whats all that churning and bubbling in there?
A: That's Mr. Inexplicable Statistical Variations</htmltext>
<tokenext>Q : Whats all that churning and bubbling in there ?
A : That 's Mr. Inexplicable Statistical Variations</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Q: Whats all that churning and bubbling in there?
A: That's Mr. Inexplicable Statistical Variations</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_07_07_1925254.28619861</id>
	<title>Opera in the rise.</title>
	<author>Zoidbot</author>
	<datestamp>1247057940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Our high traffic sites in Europe have seen a VERY large month on month rise in Opera usage, mostly taken from Firefox which has stagnated and even dropped slightly in the last couple of months.   Safari or Chrome barely registers on the list at all.</p><p>It's something like.</p><p>65\% IE<br>20\% Firefox<br>8\% Opera<br>Then everything else.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Our high traffic sites in Europe have seen a VERY large month on month rise in Opera usage , mostly taken from Firefox which has stagnated and even dropped slightly in the last couple of months .
Safari or Chrome barely registers on the list at all.It 's something like.65 \ % IE20 \ % Firefox8 \ % OperaThen everything else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our high traffic sites in Europe have seen a VERY large month on month rise in Opera usage, mostly taken from Firefox which has stagnated and even dropped slightly in the last couple of months.
Safari or Chrome barely registers on the list at all.It's something like.65\% IE20\% Firefox8\% OperaThen everything else.</sentencetext>
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