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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_29_0558229</id>
	<title>Exchange Rates Spell High Prices for Windows 7 In the EU</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1246266780000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.computerworld.com/" rel="nofollow">CWmike</a> writes <i>"European customers <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&amp;articleId=9134914">will pay up to twice as much for Windows 7 compared with US users</a>, even though the new operating system will ship without a browser in Europe. Some of the money Microsoft stands to make on the European editions of Windows 7 comes from the weak dollar. Last week, for instance, the dollar fell against the euro the most in a month, hitting $1.41 per euro. For example, Windows 7 Professional, the key retail edition for businesses, will sport a price tag of 285 euros, or $400.60, and &pound;189.99, or $313.84, at Saturday's exchange rate. In other words, EU customers will pay twice the $199.99 U.S. price; U.K. buyers will pay 57\% more. And depending on your view on bundling IE, Europe's customers will be paying more for less, <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&amp;taxonomyName=Windows&amp;articleId=9134280">with Microsoft's decision to yank IE8 from Windows 7</a> in an effort to head off EU antitrust regulators, who may still force the company to take more drastic measures."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>CWmike writes " European customers will pay up to twice as much for Windows 7 compared with US users , even though the new operating system will ship without a browser in Europe .
Some of the money Microsoft stands to make on the European editions of Windows 7 comes from the weak dollar .
Last week , for instance , the dollar fell against the euro the most in a month , hitting $ 1.41 per euro .
For example , Windows 7 Professional , the key retail edition for businesses , will sport a price tag of 285 euros , or $ 400.60 , and   189.99 , or $ 313.84 , at Saturday 's exchange rate .
In other words , EU customers will pay twice the $ 199.99 U.S. price ; U.K. buyers will pay 57 \ % more .
And depending on your view on bundling IE , Europe 's customers will be paying more for less , with Microsoft 's decision to yank IE8 from Windows 7 in an effort to head off EU antitrust regulators , who may still force the company to take more drastic measures .
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<sentencetext>CWmike writes "European customers will pay up to twice as much for Windows 7 compared with US users, even though the new operating system will ship without a browser in Europe.
Some of the money Microsoft stands to make on the European editions of Windows 7 comes from the weak dollar.
Last week, for instance, the dollar fell against the euro the most in a month, hitting $1.41 per euro.
For example, Windows 7 Professional, the key retail edition for businesses, will sport a price tag of 285 euros, or $400.60, and £189.99, or $313.84, at Saturday's exchange rate.
In other words, EU customers will pay twice the $199.99 U.S. price; U.K. buyers will pay 57\% more.
And depending on your view on bundling IE, Europe's customers will be paying more for less, with Microsoft's decision to yank IE8 from Windows 7 in an effort to head off EU antitrust regulators, who may still force the company to take more drastic measures.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28516191</id>
	<title>The geek rewrites history once again</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1246299540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Back when Microsoft didn't have a stranglehold on the market, people were happy enough pirating 95 and 98, while ignoring things like BeOS and OS/2 (both competitively priced and more powerful)</i> </p><p>BeOS first appears on PPC Mac clones in 1996.</p><p> BeOS was ported to X86 in March 1998.</p><p> <i>BeOS was optimized for digital media work... Through the late 1990s, BeOS managed to create a niche of followers, but the company failed...</i> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeOS" title="wikipedia.org">BeOS</a> [wikipedia.org] </p><p>16 MB RAM and 150 MB of hard disk storage was recommended - and more - much more - would be desirable.</p><p> The list of supported hardware was <b>very</b> short - and you could forget the portable or laptop PC.</p><p> <a href="http://testou.free.fr/www.beatjapan.org/mirror/www.be.com/support/guides/beosreadylist\_intel.html" title="testou.free.fr">BeOS Ready Systems -- Intel</a> [testou.free.fr], <a href="http://testou.free.fr/www.beatjapan.org/mirror/www.be.com/support/guides/probably\_compatible\_intel.html" title="testou.free.fr"> BeOS Probably Compatible List -- Intel</a> [testou.free.fr] </p><p>These info pages from 1998-1999 come straight from Be itself.</p><p>There were strong, competitive, MS-DOS machines on the market <b>before</b> the cloning of IBM PC BIOS.</p><p> Win 3.1 anchored the franchise. Win 95 took off like a rocket.</p><p> The convenience and economy of the OEM system install solves so many problems for the user, for the manufacturer, for the retailer, the service technician, that it is no longer possible to imagine an OS gaining traction in the mass consumer market without it.</p><p>
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<tokenext>Back when Microsoft did n't have a stranglehold on the market , people were happy enough pirating 95 and 98 , while ignoring things like BeOS and OS/2 ( both competitively priced and more powerful ) BeOS first appears on PPC Mac clones in 1996 .
BeOS was ported to X86 in March 1998 .
BeOS was optimized for digital media work... Through the late 1990s , BeOS managed to create a niche of followers , but the company failed... BeOS [ wikipedia.org ] 16 MB RAM and 150 MB of hard disk storage was recommended - and more - much more - would be desirable .
The list of supported hardware was very short - and you could forget the portable or laptop PC .
BeOS Ready Systems -- Intel [ testou.free.fr ] , BeOS Probably Compatible List -- Intel [ testou.free.fr ] These info pages from 1998-1999 come straight from Be itself.There were strong , competitive , MS-DOS machines on the market before the cloning of IBM PC BIOS .
Win 3.1 anchored the franchise .
Win 95 took off like a rocket .
The convenience and economy of the OEM system install solves so many problems for the user , for the manufacturer , for the retailer , the service technician , that it is no longer possible to imagine an OS gaining traction in the mass consumer market without it .
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<sentencetext>Back when Microsoft didn't have a stranglehold on the market, people were happy enough pirating 95 and 98, while ignoring things like BeOS and OS/2 (both competitively priced and more powerful) BeOS first appears on PPC Mac clones in 1996.
BeOS was ported to X86 in March 1998.
BeOS was optimized for digital media work... Through the late 1990s, BeOS managed to create a niche of followers, but the company failed... BeOS [wikipedia.org] 16 MB RAM and 150 MB of hard disk storage was recommended - and more - much more - would be desirable.
The list of supported hardware was very short - and you could forget the portable or laptop PC.
BeOS Ready Systems -- Intel [testou.free.fr],  BeOS Probably Compatible List -- Intel [testou.free.fr] These info pages from 1998-1999 come straight from Be itself.There were strong, competitive, MS-DOS machines on the market before the cloning of IBM PC BIOS.
Win 3.1 anchored the franchise.
Win 95 took off like a rocket.
The convenience and economy of the OEM system install solves so many problems for the user, for the manufacturer, for the retailer, the service technician, that it is no longer possible to imagine an OS gaining traction in the mass consumer market without it.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511999</id>
	<title>Correction: "... will be ASKED to pay ..."</title>
	<author>petes\_PoV</author>
	<datestamp>1246275960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We all know about price elasticity: the more something costs, the fewer people buy it.
<p>
If Microsoft strat gouging customers in various parts of the world, they really shouldn't be surprised if one of two^H^H^Hthree things happen:
</p><p>People don't buy their new products - and make do with older versions</p><p>People find alternatives that are cheaper</p><p>People obtain the product from unauthorised sources - i.e. piracy</p><p>
Now, operating systems development is basically a sunk cost. You pay for all the work (well, apart from the small proportion of making disks, boxes and support) up front, before you ever get to ship anything. After that, your product succeeds or fails on how much of that development cost you can recoup through sales. By screwing over customers, they're merely reducing the potential for sales - unless they're arrogant / stupid enough to assume no-one has an alternative supply.
</p><p>
One possibility is that europeans are being punished for the huge fines imposed on MS for their illegal (allegedly) business practices. Either they're particularly slow learners, or think they have some god-given right to do whatever the hell they like. However, I wouldn't be surprised if the EU courts went even further on the basis of this blatant protectionist attitude. Maybe <b>this time</b> they'll learn.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We all know about price elasticity : the more something costs , the fewer people buy it .
If Microsoft strat gouging customers in various parts of the world , they really should n't be surprised if one of two ^ H ^ H ^ Hthree things happen : People do n't buy their new products - and make do with older versionsPeople find alternatives that are cheaperPeople obtain the product from unauthorised sources - i.e .
piracy Now , operating systems development is basically a sunk cost .
You pay for all the work ( well , apart from the small proportion of making disks , boxes and support ) up front , before you ever get to ship anything .
After that , your product succeeds or fails on how much of that development cost you can recoup through sales .
By screwing over customers , they 're merely reducing the potential for sales - unless they 're arrogant / stupid enough to assume no-one has an alternative supply .
One possibility is that europeans are being punished for the huge fines imposed on MS for their illegal ( allegedly ) business practices .
Either they 're particularly slow learners , or think they have some god-given right to do whatever the hell they like .
However , I would n't be surprised if the EU courts went even further on the basis of this blatant protectionist attitude .
Maybe this time they 'll learn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We all know about price elasticity: the more something costs, the fewer people buy it.
If Microsoft strat gouging customers in various parts of the world, they really shouldn't be surprised if one of two^H^H^Hthree things happen:
People don't buy their new products - and make do with older versionsPeople find alternatives that are cheaperPeople obtain the product from unauthorised sources - i.e.
piracy
Now, operating systems development is basically a sunk cost.
You pay for all the work (well, apart from the small proportion of making disks, boxes and support) up front, before you ever get to ship anything.
After that, your product succeeds or fails on how much of that development cost you can recoup through sales.
By screwing over customers, they're merely reducing the potential for sales - unless they're arrogant / stupid enough to assume no-one has an alternative supply.
One possibility is that europeans are being punished for the huge fines imposed on MS for their illegal (allegedly) business practices.
Either they're particularly slow learners, or think they have some god-given right to do whatever the hell they like.
However, I wouldn't be surprised if the EU courts went even further on the basis of this blatant protectionist attitude.
Maybe this time they'll learn.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511573</id>
	<title>So it will be cheaper to import even a single copy</title>
	<author>Etylowy</author>
	<datestamp>1246271700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>$199 + ~$20 shipping + 17-23\% VAT - a single imported windows seven pro would be no more than $270, or 192 euro. You save 97 euro or $135 PER licence.</p><p>let's say your company has 100 PCs...</p><p>It looks like M$ makes users get the non-EU windows 7 by making it cheaper - what do you think will the companies selling PCs with "Free windows" do?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 199 + ~ $ 20 shipping + 17-23 \ % VAT - a single imported windows seven pro would be no more than $ 270 , or 192 euro .
You save 97 euro or $ 135 PER licence.let 's say your company has 100 PCs...It looks like M $ makes users get the non-EU windows 7 by making it cheaper - what do you think will the companies selling PCs with " Free windows " do ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$199 + ~$20 shipping + 17-23\% VAT - a single imported windows seven pro would be no more than $270, or 192 euro.
You save 97 euro or $135 PER licence.let's say your company has 100 PCs...It looks like M$ makes users get the non-EU windows 7 by making it cheaper - what do you think will the companies selling PCs with "Free windows" do?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28514631</id>
	<title>exchange rate and Windows 7</title>
	<author>viralMeme</author>
	<datestamp>1246293180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><strong>Exchange Rates Spell High Prices for WIndows 7 In the EU</strong> <br> <br>

"<i>Some of the money Microsoft stands to make on the European editions of Windows 7 comes from the weak dollar. Last week, for instance, the dollar fell against the euro the most in a month, hitting $1.41 per euro</i>"<br> <br>

Like how, what's the relationship between the exchange rate and the cost of burning a DVD?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Exchange Rates Spell High Prices for WIndows 7 In the EU " Some of the money Microsoft stands to make on the European editions of Windows 7 comes from the weak dollar .
Last week , for instance , the dollar fell against the euro the most in a month , hitting $ 1.41 per euro " Like how , what 's the relationship between the exchange rate and the cost of burning a DVD ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exchange Rates Spell High Prices for WIndows 7 In the EU  

"Some of the money Microsoft stands to make on the European editions of Windows 7 comes from the weak dollar.
Last week, for instance, the dollar fell against the euro the most in a month, hitting $1.41 per euro" 

Like how, what's the relationship between the exchange rate and the cost of burning a DVD?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512449</id>
	<title>Nothing new to see here</title>
	<author>Pop69</author>
	<datestamp>1246280340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>US IT companies have almost always just changed the $ sign to a &pound; sign when they sell software here in the UK and made noises about "localisation costs" and "compliance costs"

<br> <br>

Just business as usual, screwing as much profit out of the consumer as possible.</htmltext>
<tokenext>US IT companies have almost always just changed the $ sign to a   sign when they sell software here in the UK and made noises about " localisation costs " and " compliance costs " Just business as usual , screwing as much profit out of the consumer as possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>US IT companies have almost always just changed the $ sign to a £ sign when they sell software here in the UK and made noises about "localisation costs" and "compliance costs"

 

Just business as usual, screwing as much profit out of the consumer as possible.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28514579</id>
	<title>More $ for less product</title>
	<author>furby076</author>
	<datestamp>1246292940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And depending on your view on bundling IE, Europe's customers will be paying more for less, with Microsoft's decision to yank IE8 from Windows 7 in an effort to head off EU antitrust regulators, who may still force the company to take more drastic measures."/quote

No matter where you stand on the IE anti-trust issue (and i believe monopolistic practices suck) getting less product and paying more for it blows chunks.

I have IE 8 on both of my computers. I don't use IE8 (I use firefox) but at least I have the *OPTION* of using IE8.  I feel sorry for EU folks who are not getting as much as the US folks are getting.  As far as the cost, there is not much you can do about that since it is based on exchange rates and they are volitile.  Typically companies sell products at about the same cost but exchange rates differ and they do so pretty heavily.</p></div></div>
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<tokenext>And depending on your view on bundling IE , Europe 's customers will be paying more for less , with Microsoft 's decision to yank IE8 from Windows 7 in an effort to head off EU antitrust regulators , who may still force the company to take more drastic measures .
" /quote No matter where you stand on the IE anti-trust issue ( and i believe monopolistic practices suck ) getting less product and paying more for it blows chunks .
I have IE 8 on both of my computers .
I do n't use IE8 ( I use firefox ) but at least I have the * OPTION * of using IE8 .
I feel sorry for EU folks who are not getting as much as the US folks are getting .
As far as the cost , there is not much you can do about that since it is based on exchange rates and they are volitile .
Typically companies sell products at about the same cost but exchange rates differ and they do so pretty heavily .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And depending on your view on bundling IE, Europe's customers will be paying more for less, with Microsoft's decision to yank IE8 from Windows 7 in an effort to head off EU antitrust regulators, who may still force the company to take more drastic measures.
"/quote

No matter where you stand on the IE anti-trust issue (and i believe monopolistic practices suck) getting less product and paying more for it blows chunks.
I have IE 8 on both of my computers.
I don't use IE8 (I use firefox) but at least I have the *OPTION* of using IE8.
I feel sorry for EU folks who are not getting as much as the US folks are getting.
As far as the cost, there is not much you can do about that since it is based on exchange rates and they are volitile.
Typically companies sell products at about the same cost but exchange rates differ and they do so pretty heavily.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512919</id>
	<title>Re:Well, whaddaya know</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1246283880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That would be a nice advice if not for MS making the switch as hard as possible... (by using anticompetitive practices in the past)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That would be a nice advice if not for MS making the switch as hard as possible... ( by using anticompetitive practices in the past )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That would be a nice advice if not for MS making the switch as hard as possible... (by using anticompetitive practices in the past)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28516777</id>
	<title>Re:OEM Prices Please</title>
	<author>PitaBred</author>
	<datestamp>1246301760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the US, you have to buy hardware of some sort to get an OEM version. Lots of online shops will get around that by giving you a "free" power Y adapter or something similarly cheap with the OEM versions.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the US , you have to buy hardware of some sort to get an OEM version .
Lots of online shops will get around that by giving you a " free " power Y adapter or something similarly cheap with the OEM versions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the US, you have to buy hardware of some sort to get an OEM version.
Lots of online shops will get around that by giving you a "free" power Y adapter or something similarly cheap with the OEM versions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28514669</id>
	<title>Re:Not a problem really</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246293360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>WTF does that mean?</p></div></blockquote><p>
Get everything you can out of the 'current generation of processors', like when you juice a lemon or an orange and you are trying to get all the juice out of it.</p><p>
No, I wasn't going to explain cpu architecture to my neighbour.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>WTF does that mean ?
Get everything you can out of the 'current generation of processors ' , like when you juice a lemon or an orange and you are trying to get all the juice out of it .
No , I was n't going to explain cpu architecture to my neighbour .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WTF does that mean?
Get everything you can out of the 'current generation of processors', like when you juice a lemon or an orange and you are trying to get all the juice out of it.
No, I wasn't going to explain cpu architecture to my neighbour.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512113</id>
	<title>Re:So it will be cheaper to import even a single c</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246277100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>custom fees? What are those? Seriously, I import a lot from various countries which include the US to the EU. I've also imported from the EU to the US. I have never in my life paid customs fees. Nobody buying Windows from the US will be paying customs either unless they buy a massive shipment of 300 copies or so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>custom fees ?
What are those ?
Seriously , I import a lot from various countries which include the US to the EU .
I 've also imported from the EU to the US .
I have never in my life paid customs fees .
Nobody buying Windows from the US will be paying customs either unless they buy a massive shipment of 300 copies or so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>custom fees?
What are those?
Seriously, I import a lot from various countries which include the US to the EU.
I've also imported from the EU to the US.
I have never in my life paid customs fees.
Nobody buying Windows from the US will be paying customs either unless they buy a massive shipment of 300 copies or so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28515295</id>
	<title>EU Fines</title>
	<author>eples</author>
	<datestamp>1246296240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Looks like the fine people of the EU get to pay off all those EU fines levied against Microsoft.<br> <br>
Payback is a bitch, huh?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like the fine people of the EU get to pay off all those EU fines levied against Microsoft .
Payback is a bitch , huh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like the fine people of the EU get to pay off all those EU fines levied against Microsoft.
Payback is a bitch, huh?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513969</id>
	<title>Re:Not a problem really</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246290120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I told him that XP probably wouldn't 'get the juice' out of the current generation of processors properly </i></p><p>WTF does that mean?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I told him that XP probably would n't 'get the juice ' out of the current generation of processors properly WTF does that mean ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I told him that XP probably wouldn't 'get the juice' out of the current generation of processors properly WTF does that mean?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28531589</id>
	<title>Re:Standard conversion rate is USD=Euro</title>
	<author>sciencewhiz</author>
	<datestamp>1246386960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I traveled to Germany, I saw the same thing, but it wasn't just US goods. I went to the Grocery Store, and everything pretty much had the 1 USD is 1 Euro factor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I traveled to Germany , I saw the same thing , but it was n't just US goods .
I went to the Grocery Store , and everything pretty much had the 1 USD is 1 Euro factor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I traveled to Germany, I saw the same thing, but it wasn't just US goods.
I went to the Grocery Store, and everything pretty much had the 1 USD is 1 Euro factor.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28515905</id>
	<title>Re:But it never works the other direction</title>
	<author>mattwarden</author>
	<datestamp>1246298460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A legitimate question (not a set-up): Have you investigated protectivist measures your government may have enacted against "cheap" imports to favor your domestic goods during this period of relatively weak currency?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A legitimate question ( not a set-up ) : Have you investigated protectivist measures your government may have enacted against " cheap " imports to favor your domestic goods during this period of relatively weak currency ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A legitimate question (not a set-up): Have you investigated protectivist measures your government may have enacted against "cheap" imports to favor your domestic goods during this period of relatively weak currency?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511699</id>
	<title>Hey Guys...</title>
	<author>bmo</author>
	<datestamp>1246272780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you don't like the price, then don't buy it.</p><p>Don't pirate it either.  Use something else.</p><p>But don't pirate it.  If you do, you're doing what Microsoft considers "the next best thing" - ignoring alternatives.  Alternatives scare the piss out of Microsoft.  Back when Microsoft didn't have a stranglehold on the market, people were happy enough pirating 95 and 98, while ignoring things like BeOS and OS/2 (both competitively priced and more powerful) and it suited Microsoft and Bill Gates just fine.^1  Both OS/2 and BeOS are gone from the market because of piracy's market distortion.</p><p>Hopefully Windows 7 will come with an even more strict WGA and OGA to extract more pain from consumers.  Maybe they'll wake up.</p><p>--<br>BMO</p><p>1.  Of course, Microsoft executives prefer that people buy, but theft can build market share more quickly, as company co-founder and Chairman Bill Gates acknowledged in an unguarded moment in 1998.</p><p>"Although about 3 million computers get sold every year in China, people don't pay for the software. Someday they will, though," Gates told an audience at the University of Washington. "And as long as they're going to steal it, we want them to steal ours. They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade." <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2006/apr/09/business/fi-micropiracy9" title="latimes.com">http://articles.latimes.com/2006/apr/09/business/fi-micropiracy9</a> [latimes.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you do n't like the price , then do n't buy it.Do n't pirate it either .
Use something else.But do n't pirate it .
If you do , you 're doing what Microsoft considers " the next best thing " - ignoring alternatives .
Alternatives scare the piss out of Microsoft .
Back when Microsoft did n't have a stranglehold on the market , people were happy enough pirating 95 and 98 , while ignoring things like BeOS and OS/2 ( both competitively priced and more powerful ) and it suited Microsoft and Bill Gates just fine. ^ 1 Both OS/2 and BeOS are gone from the market because of piracy 's market distortion.Hopefully Windows 7 will come with an even more strict WGA and OGA to extract more pain from consumers .
Maybe they 'll wake up.--BMO1 .
Of course , Microsoft executives prefer that people buy , but theft can build market share more quickly , as company co-founder and Chairman Bill Gates acknowledged in an unguarded moment in 1998 .
" Although about 3 million computers get sold every year in China , people do n't pay for the software .
Someday they will , though , " Gates told an audience at the University of Washington .
" And as long as they 're going to steal it , we want them to steal ours .
They 'll get sort of addicted , and then we 'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade .
" http : //articles.latimes.com/2006/apr/09/business/fi-micropiracy9 [ latimes.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you don't like the price, then don't buy it.Don't pirate it either.
Use something else.But don't pirate it.
If you do, you're doing what Microsoft considers "the next best thing" - ignoring alternatives.
Alternatives scare the piss out of Microsoft.
Back when Microsoft didn't have a stranglehold on the market, people were happy enough pirating 95 and 98, while ignoring things like BeOS and OS/2 (both competitively priced and more powerful) and it suited Microsoft and Bill Gates just fine.^1  Both OS/2 and BeOS are gone from the market because of piracy's market distortion.Hopefully Windows 7 will come with an even more strict WGA and OGA to extract more pain from consumers.
Maybe they'll wake up.--BMO1.
Of course, Microsoft executives prefer that people buy, but theft can build market share more quickly, as company co-founder and Chairman Bill Gates acknowledged in an unguarded moment in 1998.
"Although about 3 million computers get sold every year in China, people don't pay for the software.
Someday they will, though," Gates told an audience at the University of Washington.
"And as long as they're going to steal it, we want them to steal ours.
They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade.
" http://articles.latimes.com/2006/apr/09/business/fi-micropiracy9 [latimes.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511611</id>
	<title>And M$ will get busted by EU. AGAIN.</title>
	<author>Etylowy</author>
	<datestamp>1246271940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And it will end with yet another suit from EU against M$ being a nasty monopoly and guess what, they'll have to pay up - It's an economy crisis: eu budget could surely use come extra $$$<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And it will end with yet another suit from EU against M $ being a nasty monopoly and guess what , they 'll have to pay up - It 's an economy crisis : eu budget could surely use come extra $ $ $ ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And it will end with yet another suit from EU against M$ being a nasty monopoly and guess what, they'll have to pay up - It's an economy crisis: eu budget could surely use come extra $$$ ;-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512301</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246278960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>except most US companies just change the currency sign and ship it off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>except most US companies just change the currency sign and ship it off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>except most US companies just change the currency sign and ship it off.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512617</id>
	<title>Guys am I the only one to see this?</title>
	<author>emanem</author>
	<datestamp>1246281900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Simple:<br>
How do you think they'll make pay the EU for the fines? <b>By making windows more expensive</b>!<br>
Occam's razor <b>does</b> apply here.<br>
Easy peasy.<br>
Cheers,</htmltext>
<tokenext>Simple : How do you think they 'll make pay the EU for the fines ?
By making windows more expensive !
Occam 's razor does apply here .
Easy peasy .
Cheers,</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Simple:
How do you think they'll make pay the EU for the fines?
By making windows more expensive!
Occam's razor does apply here.
Easy peasy.
Cheers,</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512225</id>
	<title>Re:Hey Guys...</title>
	<author>aphelion\_rock</author>
	<datestamp>1246278240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is going to be interesting times ahead for MS. I have tried Linux many times on and off over the last 14 years and switched back to Windows due to lack of some functionality. Every few years I try again, this year I installed Ubuntu 9 on my spare pc and was impressed. I loaned it to my teenage daughter, it kept her and her friends amused for days discovering all of the new functionality (plenty of cool factor too). It didn't have shockwave player for the browser so windows was returned but I imagine it is only a matter of time....
I have a legit copy of XP but a bootleg copy of MS office which I use very occasionally, fed up with the OGA nagware I un-installed it and installed open office, now the wife is giving me word docs to convert into PDF format, she is looking at Open Office too. I am considering Linux as my next OS as it does everything I want and is less prone to viruses and requires less updates.

Many people in third world countries don't purchase MS O/S simply because it costs many years of the average workers wage to pay for it, in short, it is beyond the reach of the average citizen.
If they make W7 too difficult to pirate then MS may well see a mass change in installations from the third world countries, particularly as the free alternatives are looking really good.

China and India are good at building their own, don't be surprised if you see a new O/S emerge from one of these countries either.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is going to be interesting times ahead for MS. I have tried Linux many times on and off over the last 14 years and switched back to Windows due to lack of some functionality .
Every few years I try again , this year I installed Ubuntu 9 on my spare pc and was impressed .
I loaned it to my teenage daughter , it kept her and her friends amused for days discovering all of the new functionality ( plenty of cool factor too ) .
It did n't have shockwave player for the browser so windows was returned but I imagine it is only a matter of time... . I have a legit copy of XP but a bootleg copy of MS office which I use very occasionally , fed up with the OGA nagware I un-installed it and installed open office , now the wife is giving me word docs to convert into PDF format , she is looking at Open Office too .
I am considering Linux as my next OS as it does everything I want and is less prone to viruses and requires less updates .
Many people in third world countries do n't purchase MS O/S simply because it costs many years of the average workers wage to pay for it , in short , it is beyond the reach of the average citizen .
If they make W7 too difficult to pirate then MS may well see a mass change in installations from the third world countries , particularly as the free alternatives are looking really good .
China and India are good at building their own , do n't be surprised if you see a new O/S emerge from one of these countries either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is going to be interesting times ahead for MS. I have tried Linux many times on and off over the last 14 years and switched back to Windows due to lack of some functionality.
Every few years I try again, this year I installed Ubuntu 9 on my spare pc and was impressed.
I loaned it to my teenage daughter, it kept her and her friends amused for days discovering all of the new functionality (plenty of cool factor too).
It didn't have shockwave player for the browser so windows was returned but I imagine it is only a matter of time....
I have a legit copy of XP but a bootleg copy of MS office which I use very occasionally, fed up with the OGA nagware I un-installed it and installed open office, now the wife is giving me word docs to convert into PDF format, she is looking at Open Office too.
I am considering Linux as my next OS as it does everything I want and is less prone to viruses and requires less updates.
Many people in third world countries don't purchase MS O/S simply because it costs many years of the average workers wage to pay for it, in short, it is beyond the reach of the average citizen.
If they make W7 too difficult to pirate then MS may well see a mass change in installations from the third world countries, particularly as the free alternatives are looking really good.
China and India are good at building their own, don't be surprised if you see a new O/S emerge from one of these countries either.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512089</id>
	<title>Re:Thats what you get for</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246276860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why subsidize Linux forums?  I'd prefer they subsidize BSD forums.  (See the point?  Why should the govt subsidize one over the other?) I don't want the govt to pick 'the winner' in OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why subsidize Linux forums ?
I 'd prefer they subsidize BSD forums .
( See the point ?
Why should the govt subsidize one over the other ?
) I do n't want the govt to pick 'the winner ' in OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why subsidize Linux forums?
I'd prefer they subsidize BSD forums.
(See the point?
Why should the govt subsidize one over the other?
) I don't want the govt to pick 'the winner' in OS.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511635</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28515057</id>
	<title>EU UK ... HUH?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246295160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; In other words, EU customers will pay twice the $199.99 U.S. price; U.K. buyers will pay 57\% more.</p><p>But the UK is part of the EU, so therefore customers in the UK will pay both "57\% more" and "twice the price" at the same time!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; In other words , EU customers will pay twice the $ 199.99 U.S. price ; U.K. buyers will pay 57 \ % more.But the UK is part of the EU , so therefore customers in the UK will pay both " 57 \ % more " and " twice the price " at the same time !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; In other words, EU customers will pay twice the $199.99 U.S. price; U.K. buyers will pay 57\% more.But the UK is part of the EU, so therefore customers in the UK will pay both "57\% more" and "twice the price" at the same time!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513191</id>
	<title>Re:As long as they don't force me to buy it....</title>
	<author>alukin</author>
	<datestamp>1246285680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The same situation in Ukraine. Bastards force people to pay M$ tax with each computer purchase and it is impossible to get money back for unused Windows. That's why I hate Microsoft. I do not want to pay $400 for stupid disc I never use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The same situation in Ukraine .
Bastards force people to pay M $ tax with each computer purchase and it is impossible to get money back for unused Windows .
That 's why I hate Microsoft .
I do not want to pay $ 400 for stupid disc I never use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The same situation in Ukraine.
Bastards force people to pay M$ tax with each computer purchase and it is impossible to get money back for unused Windows.
That's why I hate Microsoft.
I do not want to pay $400 for stupid disc I never use.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511635</id>
	<title>Re:Thats what you get for</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246272180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about Europe just prevent sale within the EU until it complies with the EU directive? How about instead of paying Microsoft Tax, EU subsidises educational and support forums for common Linux distributions? Spends the money MS gave them giving similar incentives as Intel was accused of to PC manufacturers to include and support Linux by default?<br> <br>You think the US can hold MS afloat by itself?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about Europe just prevent sale within the EU until it complies with the EU directive ?
How about instead of paying Microsoft Tax , EU subsidises educational and support forums for common Linux distributions ?
Spends the money MS gave them giving similar incentives as Intel was accused of to PC manufacturers to include and support Linux by default ?
You think the US can hold MS afloat by itself ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about Europe just prevent sale within the EU until it complies with the EU directive?
How about instead of paying Microsoft Tax, EU subsidises educational and support forums for common Linux distributions?
Spends the money MS gave them giving similar incentives as Intel was accused of to PC manufacturers to include and support Linux by default?
You think the US can hold MS afloat by itself?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511555</id>
	<title>So don't buy it....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246271460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are other options these days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are other options these days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are other options these days.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512249</id>
	<title>Re:Not surprising</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1246278420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>In the US I would probably be earning about $4000 per month.</p></div><p>Just make sure you compare apples to apples, those in the US make more than I do but I really work only 37.5 hours/week (+ half an hour's lunch break) a week, unlike most US jobs where they expect free overtime. And I get five weeks of vacation per year, I don't think any US job has that. Not that it's my impression they get that much more work done, but you do end up stuck in the office much longer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the US I would probably be earning about $ 4000 per month.Just make sure you compare apples to apples , those in the US make more than I do but I really work only 37.5 hours/week ( + half an hour 's lunch break ) a week , unlike most US jobs where they expect free overtime .
And I get five weeks of vacation per year , I do n't think any US job has that .
Not that it 's my impression they get that much more work done , but you do end up stuck in the office much longer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the US I would probably be earning about $4000 per month.Just make sure you compare apples to apples, those in the US make more than I do but I really work only 37.5 hours/week (+ half an hour's lunch break) a week, unlike most US jobs where they expect free overtime.
And I get five weeks of vacation per year, I don't think any US job has that.
Not that it's my impression they get that much more work done, but you do end up stuck in the office much longer.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511815</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28514637</id>
	<title>Re:Well, whaddaya know</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1246293180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I mean, think about it. You can get new machines for what? 500 Euros? Do they really think that a, almost, 60\% bonus for the OS will fly? I realize that OEM deals will look decidedly different, but come on...</i> </p><p>The geek <b> <i>always</i></b>  quotes retail list for the most expensive version of Windows he can find.</p><p>But that is a <b> <i>very</i></b>  thin slice of the market.</p><p>If you are home or SOHO user, what matters is the OEM bundle or the upgrade package. You might be shopping for the close-out price on a high-end system no one wants gathering dust on a pallet until October.</p><p>For a student, there are, typically, even better deals: <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/student/discounts/theultimatesteal-us/default.aspx" title="microsoft.com">The Ultimate Steal</a> [microsoft.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean , think about it .
You can get new machines for what ?
500 Euros ?
Do they really think that a , almost , 60 \ % bonus for the OS will fly ?
I realize that OEM deals will look decidedly different , but come on... The geek always quotes retail list for the most expensive version of Windows he can find.But that is a very thin slice of the market.If you are home or SOHO user , what matters is the OEM bundle or the upgrade package .
You might be shopping for the close-out price on a high-end system no one wants gathering dust on a pallet until October.For a student , there are , typically , even better deals : The Ultimate Steal [ microsoft.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean, think about it.
You can get new machines for what?
500 Euros?
Do they really think that a, almost, 60\% bonus for the OS will fly?
I realize that OEM deals will look decidedly different, but come on... The geek  always  quotes retail list for the most expensive version of Windows he can find.But that is a  very  thin slice of the market.If you are home or SOHO user, what matters is the OEM bundle or the upgrade package.
You might be shopping for the close-out price on a high-end system no one wants gathering dust on a pallet until October.For a student, there are, typically, even better deals: The Ultimate Steal [microsoft.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511713</id>
	<title>Re:Not surprising</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246272900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is because companies sell based on the cost of living, and yes, $1 is pretty much equal to 1. If I earn $2000 in the US, or 2000 in Europe, then paying $199 in the US or 199 in Europe is the same. Now of course if you look at the absolute value, we are being screwed over in Europe. This is why a lot of Europeans still buy from the US (even if you pay the customs you save money). And this is why the European union was asking the Bush administration to stop keeping the dollars low - you exports are cheaper, and your import as well since they are paid in dollars anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is because companies sell based on the cost of living , and yes , $ 1 is pretty much equal to 1 .
If I earn $ 2000 in the US , or 2000 in Europe , then paying $ 199 in the US or 199 in Europe is the same .
Now of course if you look at the absolute value , we are being screwed over in Europe .
This is why a lot of Europeans still buy from the US ( even if you pay the customs you save money ) .
And this is why the European union was asking the Bush administration to stop keeping the dollars low - you exports are cheaper , and your import as well since they are paid in dollars anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is because companies sell based on the cost of living, and yes, $1 is pretty much equal to 1.
If I earn $2000 in the US, or 2000 in Europe, then paying $199 in the US or 199 in Europe is the same.
Now of course if you look at the absolute value, we are being screwed over in Europe.
This is why a lot of Europeans still buy from the US (even if you pay the customs you save money).
And this is why the European union was asking the Bush administration to stop keeping the dollars low - you exports are cheaper, and your import as well since they are paid in dollars anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512245</id>
	<title>Re:Well, whaddaya know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246278420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Microsoft actually wants me to leech this off of BitTorrent.</p><p>Man, I'd think twice before doing that.</p><p>10 years ago, when internet malware practically did not exist, I wouldn't worry. But, today? Almost any illegal software you download from the internet contains malware of some sort.</p><p>Or, if you want your credit card numbers and passwords sent to the authors of the crack somewhere in Russia, then by all means, download a pirated version of Windows. But it may cost you much more than a legal copy of Win7.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Microsoft actually wants me to leech this off of BitTorrent.Man , I 'd think twice before doing that.10 years ago , when internet malware practically did not exist , I would n't worry .
But , today ?
Almost any illegal software you download from the internet contains malware of some sort.Or , if you want your credit card numbers and passwords sent to the authors of the crack somewhere in Russia , then by all means , download a pirated version of Windows .
But it may cost you much more than a legal copy of Win7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Microsoft actually wants me to leech this off of BitTorrent.Man, I'd think twice before doing that.10 years ago, when internet malware practically did not exist, I wouldn't worry.
But, today?
Almost any illegal software you download from the internet contains malware of some sort.Or, if you want your credit card numbers and passwords sent to the authors of the crack somewhere in Russia, then by all means, download a pirated version of Windows.
But it may cost you much more than a legal copy of Win7.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512015</id>
	<title>Re:But it never works the other direction</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246276080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is always easier to take than to give back....

at least for consoles a</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is always easier to take than to give back... . at least for consoles a</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is always easier to take than to give back....

at least for consoles a</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511463</id>
	<title>Huh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246270740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>If the Euro has more buying power than the dollar (lets say it's double for ease of math), wouldn't the price of something be $10 in the US and &euro;5 in Europe?</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the Euro has more buying power than the dollar ( lets say it 's double for ease of math ) , would n't the price of something be $ 10 in the US and    5 in Europe ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the Euro has more buying power than the dollar (lets say it's double for ease of math), wouldn't the price of something be $10 in the US and €5 in Europe?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512819</id>
	<title>Re:Hey Guys...</title>
	<author>Archimonde</author>
	<datestamp>1246283220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you don't like the price, then don't buy it.</p><p>Don't pirate it either. Use something else.</p><p>But don't pirate it. If you do, you're doing what Microsoft considers "the next best thing" - ignoring alternatives.</p> </div><p>I understand what you mean but honestly, what are the alternatives? I would gladly fork out $50 or max $100 for windows 7 but I got 5 computer at home and living in europe that sport would be quite expensive considering the article. But to get to your point, so I decide not to pay for it and not to pirate it.</p><p>So what I'm left with? Mac OS X which I can only get on macs but I already have good computers and macs here cost at least 30\% more than in US (that means *too much*). Naturally it can't be installed on non-mac computers (hackint0shing is out of the consideration).</p><p>Then we have linux or more specifically ubuntu. Tried ubuntu and does a lot of stuff right, but here we get to the major problem and that is software. I use lightroom and photoshop mostly. I would gladly use some alternative but there isn't one by a mile. There are tons of software which are just barely developed and do just some core thing. Why there aren't some competitions for like best photoshop clone or best lightroom clone.? I heard that OO is good. Why stop there and rather do some complex software?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you do n't like the price , then do n't buy it.Do n't pirate it either .
Use something else.But do n't pirate it .
If you do , you 're doing what Microsoft considers " the next best thing " - ignoring alternatives .
I understand what you mean but honestly , what are the alternatives ?
I would gladly fork out $ 50 or max $ 100 for windows 7 but I got 5 computer at home and living in europe that sport would be quite expensive considering the article .
But to get to your point , so I decide not to pay for it and not to pirate it.So what I 'm left with ?
Mac OS X which I can only get on macs but I already have good computers and macs here cost at least 30 \ % more than in US ( that means * too much * ) .
Naturally it ca n't be installed on non-mac computers ( hackint0shing is out of the consideration ) .Then we have linux or more specifically ubuntu .
Tried ubuntu and does a lot of stuff right , but here we get to the major problem and that is software .
I use lightroom and photoshop mostly .
I would gladly use some alternative but there is n't one by a mile .
There are tons of software which are just barely developed and do just some core thing .
Why there are n't some competitions for like best photoshop clone or best lightroom clone. ?
I heard that OO is good .
Why stop there and rather do some complex software ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you don't like the price, then don't buy it.Don't pirate it either.
Use something else.But don't pirate it.
If you do, you're doing what Microsoft considers "the next best thing" - ignoring alternatives.
I understand what you mean but honestly, what are the alternatives?
I would gladly fork out $50 or max $100 for windows 7 but I got 5 computer at home and living in europe that sport would be quite expensive considering the article.
But to get to your point, so I decide not to pay for it and not to pirate it.So what I'm left with?
Mac OS X which I can only get on macs but I already have good computers and macs here cost at least 30\% more than in US (that means *too much*).
Naturally it can't be installed on non-mac computers (hackint0shing is out of the consideration).Then we have linux or more specifically ubuntu.
Tried ubuntu and does a lot of stuff right, but here we get to the major problem and that is software.
I use lightroom and photoshop mostly.
I would gladly use some alternative but there isn't one by a mile.
There are tons of software which are just barely developed and do just some core thing.
Why there aren't some competitions for like best photoshop clone or best lightroom clone.?
I heard that OO is good.
Why stop there and rather do some complex software?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512119</id>
	<title>Re:What has the US price to to with the EU price?</title>
	<author>Rocketship Underpant</author>
	<datestamp>1246277160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>*NOTE: "&#195;" is slashdot's lame interpretation of the euro symbol.</i>

<p>
"64 ASCII characters ought to be enough for anybody." &#226;" Cmdr Taco, 1981
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* NOTE : "   " is slashdot 's lame interpretation of the euro symbol .
" 64 ASCII characters ought to be enough for anybody .
"   " Cmdr Taco , 1981</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*NOTE: "Ã" is slashdot's lame interpretation of the euro symbol.
"64 ASCII characters ought to be enough for anybody.
" â" Cmdr Taco, 1981
</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28522309</id>
	<title>Re:OEM Prices Please</title>
	<author>zuperduperman</author>
	<datestamp>1246281900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I find the OEM argument kind of bizarre.</p><p>You go to the effort of paying for a legal license to use the software<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but you do it fraudulently! (unless you really are a commercial system builder).  So the license you end up with is worthless, because it doesn't qualify you to use the software, but you still think it was worth buying nonetheless!</p><p>If your intent is to disregard the license, why don't you just pirate it from the outset?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I find the OEM argument kind of bizarre.You go to the effort of paying for a legal license to use the software ... but you do it fraudulently !
( unless you really are a commercial system builder ) .
So the license you end up with is worthless , because it does n't qualify you to use the software , but you still think it was worth buying nonetheless ! If your intent is to disregard the license , why do n't you just pirate it from the outset ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find the OEM argument kind of bizarre.You go to the effort of paying for a legal license to use the software ... but you do it fraudulently!
(unless you really are a commercial system builder).
So the license you end up with is worthless, because it doesn't qualify you to use the software, but you still think it was worth buying nonetheless!If your intent is to disregard the license, why don't you just pirate it from the outset?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511453</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511899</id>
	<title>Pay more for less?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246274880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can they still get IE8 for free, or will Internet Explorer cost money if you have Windows 7?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can they still get IE8 for free , or will Internet Explorer cost money if you have Windows 7 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can they still get IE8 for free, or will Internet Explorer cost money if you have Windows 7?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512185</id>
	<title>Re:OEM Prices Please</title>
	<author>will\_die</author>
	<datestamp>1246277700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For microsoft end user software(XP,Vista, Win 7, office) you most certainly qualify as an OEM.  Microsoft definition is "an original equipment manufacturer, or an assembler, reassembler, or installer of software on computer systems" you install software you qualify and microsoft is acutally more easy then that for hardware requirements.  Microsoft just does not want joe blow end user to install and use.<br>
There are some catches, once the package is opened there are no returns(you can see the serial number) some OEM packaging is changing and sellers are accepting returns, once installed on a motherboard it is stuck to that computer and under the OEM no motherboard switching even if it breaks, and most important you do not get to call up Microsoft for support, the OEM installer (aka you) are the people responsible for support, so no waiting for hours on the phone.  With Vista they did make a limitation on 32/64 bit where they shipped seperatly and the OEM version limited you to just one version, I think that was later changed and Win 7 ships with both on the same DVD.<br>
Now for server rated software, this is for OEM licenses, most of that is tied to a specific piece of complete hardware and cannot be transfered in any form.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For microsoft end user software ( XP,Vista , Win 7 , office ) you most certainly qualify as an OEM .
Microsoft definition is " an original equipment manufacturer , or an assembler , reassembler , or installer of software on computer systems " you install software you qualify and microsoft is acutally more easy then that for hardware requirements .
Microsoft just does not want joe blow end user to install and use .
There are some catches , once the package is opened there are no returns ( you can see the serial number ) some OEM packaging is changing and sellers are accepting returns , once installed on a motherboard it is stuck to that computer and under the OEM no motherboard switching even if it breaks , and most important you do not get to call up Microsoft for support , the OEM installer ( aka you ) are the people responsible for support , so no waiting for hours on the phone .
With Vista they did make a limitation on 32/64 bit where they shipped seperatly and the OEM version limited you to just one version , I think that was later changed and Win 7 ships with both on the same DVD .
Now for server rated software , this is for OEM licenses , most of that is tied to a specific piece of complete hardware and can not be transfered in any form .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For microsoft end user software(XP,Vista, Win 7, office) you most certainly qualify as an OEM.
Microsoft definition is "an original equipment manufacturer, or an assembler, reassembler, or installer of software on computer systems" you install software you qualify and microsoft is acutally more easy then that for hardware requirements.
Microsoft just does not want joe blow end user to install and use.
There are some catches, once the package is opened there are no returns(you can see the serial number) some OEM packaging is changing and sellers are accepting returns, once installed on a motherboard it is stuck to that computer and under the OEM no motherboard switching even if it breaks, and most important you do not get to call up Microsoft for support, the OEM installer (aka you) are the people responsible for support, so no waiting for hours on the phone.
With Vista they did make a limitation on 32/64 bit where they shipped seperatly and the OEM version limited you to just one version, I think that was later changed and Win 7 ships with both on the same DVD.
Now for server rated software, this is for OEM licenses, most of that is tied to a specific piece of complete hardware and cannot be transfered in any form.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511815</id>
	<title>Re:Not surprising</title>
	<author>pjt33</author>
	<datestamp>1246273980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If I earn $2000 in the US, or 2000 in Europe</p></div><p>In a month? I'd be delighted to get a job here in Spain which paid 2000 euros per month, and that's with a degree from a prestigious university and over 5 years' experience. In the US I would probably be earning about $4000 per month.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I earn $ 2000 in the US , or 2000 in EuropeIn a month ?
I 'd be delighted to get a job here in Spain which paid 2000 euros per month , and that 's with a degree from a prestigious university and over 5 years ' experience .
In the US I would probably be earning about $ 4000 per month .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I earn $2000 in the US, or 2000 in EuropeIn a month?
I'd be delighted to get a job here in Spain which paid 2000 euros per month, and that's with a degree from a prestigious university and over 5 years' experience.
In the US I would probably be earning about $4000 per month.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511971</id>
	<title>"Even though"?</title>
	<author>6Yankee</author>
	<datestamp>1246275600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>European customers will pay up to twice as much for Windows 7 compared with US users, even though the new operating system will ship without a browser in Europe.</i></p><p>No IE? Surely you mean "because"?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>European customers will pay up to twice as much for Windows 7 compared with US users , even though the new operating system will ship without a browser in Europe.No IE ?
Surely you mean " because " ?
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>European customers will pay up to twice as much for Windows 7 compared with US users, even though the new operating system will ship without a browser in Europe.No IE?
Surely you mean "because"?
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28520551</id>
	<title>Re:OEM Prices Please</title>
	<author>JAlexoi</author>
	<datestamp>1246272780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, I can buy the OEM version "bundled" with a keyboard<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I can buy the OEM version " bundled " with a keyboard : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I can buy the OEM version "bundled" with a keyboard :)</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512365</id>
	<title>Biggest Shock Of All</title>
	<author>gsslay</author>
	<datestamp>1246279560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow.  We need to get this big news out on the street!</p><p>Variable exchange rates means winners and losers!!  Who knew?</p><p>Weak currency means imports cost less, but exports cost more!!  Has someone informed the president?  This could change national economic policy beyond recognition!</p><p>Biggest shock of all; this even applies to Microsoft and software industry!!  And I thought software companies lived on an internet virtual never-land beyond the reach of economic realities.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow .
We need to get this big news out on the street ! Variable exchange rates means winners and losers ! !
Who knew ? Weak currency means imports cost less , but exports cost more ! !
Has someone informed the president ?
This could change national economic policy beyond recognition ! Biggest shock of all ; this even applies to Microsoft and software industry ! !
And I thought software companies lived on an internet virtual never-land beyond the reach of economic realities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow.
We need to get this big news out on the street!Variable exchange rates means winners and losers!!
Who knew?Weak currency means imports cost less, but exports cost more!!
Has someone informed the president?
This could change national economic policy beyond recognition!Biggest shock of all; this even applies to Microsoft and software industry!!
And I thought software companies lived on an internet virtual never-land beyond the reach of economic realities.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511583</id>
	<title>Re:Thats what you get for</title>
	<author>j35ter</author>
	<datestamp>1246271760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Um, we actually took M$'s money, now we've elected a PirateParty member into the European Parliament. The way it looks, Balmer &amp; co. are the ones bent over and awaiting our second coming<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Um , we actually took M $ 's money , now we 've elected a PirateParty member into the European Parliament .
The way it looks , Balmer &amp; co. are the ones bent over and awaiting our second coming : D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um, we actually took M$'s money, now we've elected a PirateParty member into the European Parliament.
The way it looks, Balmer &amp; co. are the ones bent over and awaiting our second coming :D</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513365</id>
	<title>Re:Not a problem really</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246286880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is not a surprise. Of course average Joe can migrate to Linux if he has a confident geek holding his hand the whole way.  But there is many average Joe out there, and very few confident geeks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is not a surprise .
Of course average Joe can migrate to Linux if he has a confident geek holding his hand the whole way .
But there is many average Joe out there , and very few confident geeks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is not a surprise.
Of course average Joe can migrate to Linux if he has a confident geek holding his hand the whole way.
But there is many average Joe out there, and very few confident geeks.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512431</id>
	<title>Re:So don't buy it....</title>
	<author>binkzz</author>
	<datestamp>1246280100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not if you want to buy a preconfigured hardware set up a la laptop, dell or hp from a well known brand.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not if you want to buy a preconfigured hardware set up a la laptop , dell or hp from a well known brand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not if you want to buy a preconfigured hardware set up a la laptop, dell or hp from a well known brand.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28523917</id>
	<title>Re:Guys am I the only one to see this?</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1246293780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Simple:<br>
How do you think they'll make pay the EU for the fines? By making windows more expensive!</p></div></blockquote><p>

Sir,<br> <br>

Your theory falls apart when we get to Australia. Australia is not a member of the EU and yet suffers the same kind of price difference, for Home Premium the Australian retail price is A$299 (US$243) whilst in the US it is US$199. Ultimate is $A469 (US$380) whilst it sells in the US for US$319.<br> <br>

It is not that difficult for companies to change their prices according to exchange rates on a monthly, weekly or daily basis. In Australia we do this all the time, normally we sell in AUD and convert the price to the currency of the purchaser. Seeing as Microsoft only deals with wholesalers this should be easy.<br> <br>

My theory is that Australia is the only 1st world country left in the world that still has money, so we are paying welfare to support the US. Of course Occams Razor could apply and state that:<br>
Microsoft are gouging in foreign markets because they can get away with it and because they are a bunch of tossers.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Simple : How do you think they 'll make pay the EU for the fines ?
By making windows more expensive !
Sir , Your theory falls apart when we get to Australia .
Australia is not a member of the EU and yet suffers the same kind of price difference , for Home Premium the Australian retail price is A $ 299 ( US $ 243 ) whilst in the US it is US $ 199 .
Ultimate is $ A469 ( US $ 380 ) whilst it sells in the US for US $ 319 .
It is not that difficult for companies to change their prices according to exchange rates on a monthly , weekly or daily basis .
In Australia we do this all the time , normally we sell in AUD and convert the price to the currency of the purchaser .
Seeing as Microsoft only deals with wholesalers this should be easy .
My theory is that Australia is the only 1st world country left in the world that still has money , so we are paying welfare to support the US .
Of course Occams Razor could apply and state that : Microsoft are gouging in foreign markets because they can get away with it and because they are a bunch of tossers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Simple:
How do you think they'll make pay the EU for the fines?
By making windows more expensive!
Sir, 

Your theory falls apart when we get to Australia.
Australia is not a member of the EU and yet suffers the same kind of price difference, for Home Premium the Australian retail price is A$299 (US$243) whilst in the US it is US$199.
Ultimate is $A469 (US$380) whilst it sells in the US for US$319.
It is not that difficult for companies to change their prices according to exchange rates on a monthly, weekly or daily basis.
In Australia we do this all the time, normally we sell in AUD and convert the price to the currency of the purchaser.
Seeing as Microsoft only deals with wholesalers this should be easy.
My theory is that Australia is the only 1st world country left in the world that still has money, so we are paying welfare to support the US.
Of course Occams Razor could apply and state that:
Microsoft are gouging in foreign markets because they can get away with it and because they are a bunch of tossers.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512469</id>
	<title>ReactOS...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246280520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So if all those future users would invest 50 Euros in ReactOS, they could get a more compatible OS for less money and no stupid restrictions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So if all those future users would invest 50 Euros in ReactOS , they could get a more compatible OS for less money and no stupid restrictions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So if all those future users would invest 50 Euros in ReactOS, they could get a more compatible OS for less money and no stupid restrictions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28517157</id>
	<title>People get what they deserve</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246303200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, and for the price you get a crippled OS. Brilliant! We get what we deserve.<br>The next question is, will the EU force other OS vendors to ship (or make available through download) their OS browserless too? Somewhere in that area you'll find the demarcation line between upholding the law and hypocrisy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , and for the price you get a crippled OS .
Brilliant ! We get what we deserve.The next question is , will the EU force other OS vendors to ship ( or make available through download ) their OS browserless too ?
Somewhere in that area you 'll find the demarcation line between upholding the law and hypocrisy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, and for the price you get a crippled OS.
Brilliant! We get what we deserve.The next question is, will the EU force other OS vendors to ship (or make available through download) their OS browserless too?
Somewhere in that area you'll find the demarcation line between upholding the law and hypocrisy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511603</id>
	<title>Yeesh..</title>
	<author>seeker\_1us</author>
	<datestamp>1246271940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
So you buy Windows 7<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...
</p><p>
<i>or.......</i>
</p><p>
You could use Linux and spend the money you save on a a netbook.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you buy Windows 7 .. . or...... . You could use Linux and spend the money you save on a a netbook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
So you buy Windows 7 ...

or.......

You could use Linux and spend the money you save on a a netbook.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28523795</id>
	<title>Re:Financial crisis, it's all good.</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1246292640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Really, it should be called "Financial Happy Times" or something.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Methinks that would <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First\_Happy\_Time" title="wikipedia.org">Godwin</a> [wikipedia.org] the entire financial apocalypse.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Really , it should be called " Financial Happy Times " or something .
Methinks that would Godwin [ wikipedia.org ] the entire financial apocalypse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really, it should be called "Financial Happy Times" or something.
Methinks that would Godwin [wikipedia.org] the entire financial apocalypse.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513601</id>
	<title>Re:Well, whaddaya know</title>
	<author>pmontra</author>
	<datestamp>1246288440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>MS is happy that you pirate Windows 7: they're not losing money (you never paid them once) and they're not giving a customer to the competition. You should switch to Linux instead, or to OSX if you also want to buy a new computer. That would disappoint MS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>MS is happy that you pirate Windows 7 : they 're not losing money ( you never paid them once ) and they 're not giving a customer to the competition .
You should switch to Linux instead , or to OSX if you also want to buy a new computer .
That would disappoint MS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MS is happy that you pirate Windows 7: they're not losing money (you never paid them once) and they're not giving a customer to the competition.
You should switch to Linux instead, or to OSX if you also want to buy a new computer.
That would disappoint MS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511627</id>
	<title>The same for Linux</title>
	<author>Bromskloss</author>
	<datestamp>1246272120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It costs twice as much in Europe as in the USA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It costs twice as much in Europe as in the USA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It costs twice as much in Europe as in the USA.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513557</id>
	<title>Price discrimination</title>
	<author>Patatoffel</author>
	<datestamp>1246288140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Microeconomics can answer this question: monopolists engage in price discrimination in order to maximize their profits, predating the consumer surplus.

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price\_discrimination" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price\_discrimination</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microeconomics can answer this question : monopolists engage in price discrimination in order to maximize their profits , predating the consumer surplus .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price \ _discrimination [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microeconomics can answer this question: monopolists engage in price discrimination in order to maximize their profits, predating the consumer surplus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price\_discrimination [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512479</id>
	<title>Re:What has the US price to to with the EU price?</title>
	<author>binkzz</author>
	<datestamp>1246280580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>If the USD and the EUR were the same when the product was sold, and then the EUR goes down in price, I would agree with you.<br> <br>

But if the price according to the exchange rates at release differs \%100, I believe it's a scam.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the USD and the EUR were the same when the product was sold , and then the EUR goes down in price , I would agree with you .
But if the price according to the exchange rates at release differs \ % 100 , I believe it 's a scam .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the USD and the EUR were the same when the product was sold, and then the EUR goes down in price, I would agree with you.
But if the price according to the exchange rates at release differs \%100, I believe it's a scam.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513203</id>
	<title>Re:Well, whaddaya know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246285860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I was actually thinking of buying. But it seems my perfect track record of never paying for Windows will remain perfect.</p></div><p>WOAH DOOD UR FUKIN 1337!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was actually thinking of buying .
But it seems my perfect track record of never paying for Windows will remain perfect.WOAH DOOD UR FUKIN 1337 ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was actually thinking of buying.
But it seems my perfect track record of never paying for Windows will remain perfect.WOAH DOOD UR FUKIN 1337!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511503</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511707</id>
	<title>I don't get it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246272840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it costs $300 then why is the price in Euros not $300?</p><p>Do they have to pay the travel agent their conversion fee each sale?</p><p>If they said that the price was going to be 200Euros (if that were $300) but now because of the exchange rate it would have to be 250Euros (if that were the rate for $300) then I could understand.</p><p>But claiming exchange rate on a good when using the same currency is DUMB.</p><p>And people are swallowing this shit???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it costs $ 300 then why is the price in Euros not $ 300 ? Do they have to pay the travel agent their conversion fee each sale ? If they said that the price was going to be 200Euros ( if that were $ 300 ) but now because of the exchange rate it would have to be 250Euros ( if that were the rate for $ 300 ) then I could understand.But claiming exchange rate on a good when using the same currency is DUMB.And people are swallowing this shit ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it costs $300 then why is the price in Euros not $300?Do they have to pay the travel agent their conversion fee each sale?If they said that the price was going to be 200Euros (if that were $300) but now because of the exchange rate it would have to be 250Euros (if that were the rate for $300) then I could understand.But claiming exchange rate on a good when using the same currency is DUMB.And people are swallowing this shit??
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511469</id>
	<title>You are getting the same ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246270740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... albeit some simple assembly required. With IE 8 separated it can be still easily added<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... on the other hand, you could also think about not having to pay for bloatware. Alas, the increased costs here in Europe for Win7 will make even more companies think about the future upgrade path: it might not be Windows anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... albeit some simple assembly required .
With IE 8 separated it can be still easily added ... on the other hand , you could also think about not having to pay for bloatware .
Alas , the increased costs here in Europe for Win7 will make even more companies think about the future upgrade path : it might not be Windows anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... albeit some simple assembly required.
With IE 8 separated it can be still easily added ... on the other hand, you could also think about not having to pay for bloatware.
Alas, the increased costs here in Europe for Win7 will make even more companies think about the future upgrade path: it might not be Windows anymore.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511671</id>
	<title>And for Linux?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246272540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That'll be 699 Euros, or $985.59... Cough it up, you deadbeats! We're not dead yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 'll be 699 Euros , or $ 985.59... Cough it up , you deadbeats !
We 're not dead yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That'll be 699 Euros, or $985.59... Cough it up, you deadbeats!
We're not dead yet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513223</id>
	<title>Re:Not a problem really</title>
	<author>DoofusOfDeath</author>
	<datestamp>1246285920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>When I asked him a few days ago about how the new computer was going his exact word were:</p><p>"I'm lovin' it"</p></div></blockquote><p>Sadly, McDonald's has trademarked "I'm lovin' it" as part of a recent advertising campaign.</p><p>I'm afraid your friend will have had to say something else in future tellings of your story.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I asked him a few days ago about how the new computer was going his exact word were : " I 'm lovin ' it " Sadly , McDonald 's has trademarked " I 'm lovin ' it " as part of a recent advertising campaign.I 'm afraid your friend will have had to say something else in future tellings of your story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I asked him a few days ago about how the new computer was going his exact word were:"I'm lovin' it"Sadly, McDonald's has trademarked "I'm lovin' it" as part of a recent advertising campaign.I'm afraid your friend will have had to say something else in future tellings of your story.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512177</id>
	<title>Re:Not surprising</title>
	<author>Eivind</author>
	<datestamp>1246277640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Europe isn't homogenous. Spain have salaries like you say, where 2000 is a pretty decent salary, whereas some places are significanly poorer (in Poland, 1000 is a pretty decent salary) and some places are significantly richer (here in Norway 5000 is a pretty decent salary)</p><p>I've got a 4 year university-degree, and 5 years of experience in programming, my wife has a similar-length degree and a couple of years more experience in financials, and we both earn aproximately 5000/month. Those are *good* as in above-average salaries, but not HIGH salaries. (my guess would be around a quarter of the people here earn more)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Europe is n't homogenous .
Spain have salaries like you say , where 2000 is a pretty decent salary , whereas some places are significanly poorer ( in Poland , 1000 is a pretty decent salary ) and some places are significantly richer ( here in Norway 5000 is a pretty decent salary ) I 've got a 4 year university-degree , and 5 years of experience in programming , my wife has a similar-length degree and a couple of years more experience in financials , and we both earn aproximately 5000/month .
Those are * good * as in above-average salaries , but not HIGH salaries .
( my guess would be around a quarter of the people here earn more )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Europe isn't homogenous.
Spain have salaries like you say, where 2000 is a pretty decent salary, whereas some places are significanly poorer (in Poland, 1000 is a pretty decent salary) and some places are significantly richer (here in Norway 5000 is a pretty decent salary)I've got a 4 year university-degree, and 5 years of experience in programming, my wife has a similar-length degree and a couple of years more experience in financials, and we both earn aproximately 5000/month.
Those are *good* as in above-average salaries, but not HIGH salaries.
(my guess would be around a quarter of the people here earn more)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28519295</id>
	<title>OMGWTFLOLBBQ</title>
	<author>M0b1u5</author>
	<datestamp>1246268280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At that rate, it'll be over $1000 in New Zealand.</p><p>I think I'm prepared to spend quite a few hours installing a cracked copy of Windows 7.</p><p>No fuckign way should ANY version of windows cost more than $100 locally - about $65 USD.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At that rate , it 'll be over $ 1000 in New Zealand.I think I 'm prepared to spend quite a few hours installing a cracked copy of Windows 7.No fuckign way should ANY version of windows cost more than $ 100 locally - about $ 65 USD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At that rate, it'll be over $1000 in New Zealand.I think I'm prepared to spend quite a few hours installing a cracked copy of Windows 7.No fuckign way should ANY version of windows cost more than $100 locally - about $65 USD.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511977</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1246275660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only if you could buy at the dollar price.  When pricing products for different markets, companies usually pick some arbitrary exchange rate, often USD == EUR.  This means you end up with something like $100 for one and &#226;100 for another.  A few years ago, this was close to being accurate, so the dollar and Euro prices were similar.  If the Euro becomes stronger by, say 50\%, against the dollar, then the prices are still $100 and &#226;100, but the Euro price is now equivalent to $150.  If you buy the US version, then you are only paying &#226;67, but this is not typically an option.  </p><p>
When the dollar was very weak against the pound (it dipped to under 50p at one point) we saw this a lot in the UK.  Most prices are set on the assumption that $1 is somewhere between 60p and 90p, so we ended up paying over 50\% more than the US price in a number of cases.
</p><p>
(Sorry if Slashcode's complete lack of support for unicode eats the Euro symbol (&#226;))</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only if you could buy at the dollar price .
When pricing products for different markets , companies usually pick some arbitrary exchange rate , often USD = = EUR .
This means you end up with something like $ 100 for one and   100 for another .
A few years ago , this was close to being accurate , so the dollar and Euro prices were similar .
If the Euro becomes stronger by , say 50 \ % , against the dollar , then the prices are still $ 100 and   100 , but the Euro price is now equivalent to $ 150 .
If you buy the US version , then you are only paying   67 , but this is not typically an option .
When the dollar was very weak against the pound ( it dipped to under 50p at one point ) we saw this a lot in the UK .
Most prices are set on the assumption that $ 1 is somewhere between 60p and 90p , so we ended up paying over 50 \ % more than the US price in a number of cases .
( Sorry if Slashcode 's complete lack of support for unicode eats the Euro symbol (   ) )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only if you could buy at the dollar price.
When pricing products for different markets, companies usually pick some arbitrary exchange rate, often USD == EUR.
This means you end up with something like $100 for one and â100 for another.
A few years ago, this was close to being accurate, so the dollar and Euro prices were similar.
If the Euro becomes stronger by, say 50\%, against the dollar, then the prices are still $100 and â100, but the Euro price is now equivalent to $150.
If you buy the US version, then you are only paying â67, but this is not typically an option.
When the dollar was very weak against the pound (it dipped to under 50p at one point) we saw this a lot in the UK.
Most prices are set on the assumption that $1 is somewhere between 60p and 90p, so we ended up paying over 50\% more than the US price in a number of cases.
(Sorry if Slashcode's complete lack of support for unicode eats the Euro symbol (â))</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513131</id>
	<title>What did you expect?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246285140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did you think that Microsoft was going to allow people to be European for free?

Seriously, though, I tend to think that Microsoft probably has an insiders view of what the central banks are planning.  If this is the case, I suspect that the euro and the pound would probably weaken faster than the dollar in the coming months.  The pricing just plans for this weakening that they already know will happen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you think that Microsoft was going to allow people to be European for free ?
Seriously , though , I tend to think that Microsoft probably has an insiders view of what the central banks are planning .
If this is the case , I suspect that the euro and the pound would probably weaken faster than the dollar in the coming months .
The pricing just plans for this weakening that they already know will happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you think that Microsoft was going to allow people to be European for free?
Seriously, though, I tend to think that Microsoft probably has an insiders view of what the central banks are planning.
If this is the case, I suspect that the euro and the pound would probably weaken faster than the dollar in the coming months.
The pricing just plans for this weakening that they already know will happen.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512085</id>
	<title>Re:What has the US price to to with the EU price?</title>
	<author>colinrichardday</author>
	<datestamp>1246276860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How did you enter the Euro symbol? When I look at the source, it has &amp;#226;, which is a with a circumflex accent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How did you enter the Euro symbol ?
When I look at the source , it has   , which is a with a circumflex accent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How did you enter the Euro symbol?
When I look at the source, it has â, which is a with a circumflex accent.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513429</id>
	<title>Re:Well, whaddaya know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246287240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>ou can get new machines for what? 500 Euros? Do they really think that a, almost, 60\% bonus for the OS will fly?</p></div><p> You can still buy Vista Ultimate full OEM version for only 505,90 EUR in selected webshops! For the price you can have the full bent over experience in Amsterdam several times over. It's that cheap!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>ou can get new machines for what ?
500 Euros ?
Do they really think that a , almost , 60 \ % bonus for the OS will fly ?
You can still buy Vista Ultimate full OEM version for only 505,90 EUR in selected webshops !
For the price you can have the full bent over experience in Amsterdam several times over .
It 's that cheap !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ou can get new machines for what?
500 Euros?
Do they really think that a, almost, 60\% bonus for the OS will fly?
You can still buy Vista Ultimate full OEM version for only 505,90 EUR in selected webshops!
For the price you can have the full bent over experience in Amsterdam several times over.
It's that cheap!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512335</id>
	<title>Re:Why the UK/EU price difference?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246279320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Any customer is free to do this. Any customer is also free to buy video games 30\% cheaper from the UK, yet you don't see those sales numbers collapsing in the rest of the EU either. Because although everybody can, realistically most people still won't.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Any customer is free to do this .
Any customer is also free to buy video games 30 \ % cheaper from the UK , yet you do n't see those sales numbers collapsing in the rest of the EU either .
Because although everybody can , realistically most people still wo n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any customer is free to do this.
Any customer is also free to buy video games 30\% cheaper from the UK, yet you don't see those sales numbers collapsing in the rest of the EU either.
Because although everybody can, realistically most people still won't.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512797</id>
	<title>As long as they don't force me to buy it....</title>
	<author>viraltus</author>
	<datestamp>1246283040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>At least in Spain is very difficult to buy a Machine without Windows pre-installed, and if you ask to remove the OS and give you the money back the look at you like if you were from Mars... I am from Mars anyway, but you know what I mean.</htmltext>
<tokenext>At least in Spain is very difficult to buy a Machine without Windows pre-installed , and if you ask to remove the OS and give you the money back the look at you like if you were from Mars... I am from Mars anyway , but you know what I mean .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least in Spain is very difficult to buy a Machine without Windows pre-installed, and if you ask to remove the OS and give you the money back the look at you like if you were from Mars... I am from Mars anyway, but you know what I mean.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512029</id>
	<title>Re:OEM Prices Please</title>
	<author>xeper</author>
	<datestamp>1246276140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>except for the 50\% of people who don 't qualify for the OEM/ education versions.</p></div><p>"Qualify"? You just go to a shop, buy an OEM/SBE Version and install it. Perfectly legal - in some (most?) EU-countries...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>except for the 50 \ % of people who don 't qualify for the OEM/ education versions. " Qualify " ?
You just go to a shop , buy an OEM/SBE Version and install it .
Perfectly legal - in some ( most ?
) EU-countries.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>except for the 50\% of people who don 't qualify for the OEM/ education versions."Qualify"?
You just go to a shop, buy an OEM/SBE Version and install it.
Perfectly legal - in some (most?
) EU-countries...
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511473</id>
	<title>Captive customers can't complain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246270740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It goes to show how far the market for personal computer operating systems is owned by one firm.  It is amazingly hard to sell commodity software yet Microsoft manage to do it, at the prices it chooses, because it has no effective competition.  Admirable, if slightly freaky (it makes me think of someone selling 128MB memory cards for a premium).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It goes to show how far the market for personal computer operating systems is owned by one firm .
It is amazingly hard to sell commodity software yet Microsoft manage to do it , at the prices it chooses , because it has no effective competition .
Admirable , if slightly freaky ( it makes me think of someone selling 128MB memory cards for a premium ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It goes to show how far the market for personal computer operating systems is owned by one firm.
It is amazingly hard to sell commodity software yet Microsoft manage to do it, at the prices it chooses, because it has no effective competition.
Admirable, if slightly freaky (it makes me think of someone selling 128MB memory cards for a premium).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28525467</id>
	<title>Re:Why the UK/EU price difference?</title>
	<author>moosesocks</author>
	<datestamp>1246353600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, things like this are becoming fairly common in the EU.</p><p>Cans of Coca-Cola sold in the UK (particularly in restaurants) are often imported from Germany (and are easily recognizable by the fact that the writing on the can is in German).  Apparently it's marginally cheaper to produce and bottle Coke in Germany than it is in the UK.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , things like this are becoming fairly common in the EU.Cans of Coca-Cola sold in the UK ( particularly in restaurants ) are often imported from Germany ( and are easily recognizable by the fact that the writing on the can is in German ) .
Apparently it 's marginally cheaper to produce and bottle Coke in Germany than it is in the UK .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, things like this are becoming fairly common in the EU.Cans of Coca-Cola sold in the UK (particularly in restaurants) are often imported from Germany (and are easily recognizable by the fact that the writing on the can is in German).
Apparently it's marginally cheaper to produce and bottle Coke in Germany than it is in the UK.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28514971</id>
	<title>The maths</title>
	<author>SpaghettiPattern</author>
	<datestamp>1246294800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><ul>
<li>MS is from USA</li><li>MS Windows is developed in USA</li><li>Retail price in USA is USD 200</li><li>Rebate of USD 10 for not shipping IE.</li><li>Same product shipped to EU will cost USD 190/1.4 = EUR 136</li><li>Difference between EUR 285 and EUR 136 is EUR 149.</li><li>Where's the extra EUR 149 going???</li></ul><p>

Devious bastards!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>MS is from USAMS Windows is developed in USARetail price in USA is USD 200Rebate of USD 10 for not shipping IE.Same product shipped to EU will cost USD 190/1.4 = EUR 136Difference between EUR 285 and EUR 136 is EUR 149.Where 's the extra EUR 149 going ? ? ?
Devious bastards !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
MS is from USAMS Windows is developed in USARetail price in USA is USD 200Rebate of USD 10 for not shipping IE.Same product shipped to EU will cost USD 190/1.4 = EUR 136Difference between EUR 285 and EUR 136 is EUR 149.Where's the extra EUR 149 going???
Devious bastards!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512035</id>
	<title>Re:Well, whaddaya know</title>
	<author>cliffski</author>
	<datestamp>1246276200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you don't like the price, you are well within your rights to stick with XP or vista. That's fine. But claiming this allows you to legitimately pirate it is a bit of a stretch. I've always considered that plasma TV's were overpriced, but this didn't create a feeling on entitlement to take one for free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you do n't like the price , you are well within your rights to stick with XP or vista .
That 's fine .
But claiming this allows you to legitimately pirate it is a bit of a stretch .
I 've always considered that plasma TV 's were overpriced , but this did n't create a feeling on entitlement to take one for free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you don't like the price, you are well within your rights to stick with XP or vista.
That's fine.
But claiming this allows you to legitimately pirate it is a bit of a stretch.
I've always considered that plasma TV's were overpriced, but this didn't create a feeling on entitlement to take one for free.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511503</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511437</id>
	<title>Fine</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246270560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I won't buy it, then.<br> <br>Really, fuck US products. I don't need your music, software, cars, or internet.<br> <br>In fact, that includes Slas[NO CARRIER]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wo n't buy it , then .
Really , fuck US products .
I do n't need your music , software , cars , or internet .
In fact , that includes Slas [ NO CARRIER ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I won't buy it, then.
Really, fuck US products.
I don't need your music, software, cars, or internet.
In fact, that includes Slas[NO CARRIER]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28514155</id>
	<title>Re:Guys am I the only one to see this?</title>
	<author>Jesus\_666</author>
	<datestamp>1246291020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd figure that with prices like these Razor1911 will be applied much more often...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd figure that with prices like these Razor1911 will be applied much more often.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd figure that with prices like these Razor1911 will be applied much more often...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512617</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512375</id>
	<title>What do you mean with "paying more for less"?</title>
	<author>jotaeleemeese</author>
	<datestamp>1246279680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Windows 7 + IE = &#226;X</p><p>Knowing that IE =  &#226;0</p><p>then  Windows 7 = &#226;X</p><p>which means you would be paying the same for less (if you believe that not having IE is to have "less", which I don't).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Windows 7 + IE =   XKnowing that IE =   0then Windows 7 =   Xwhich means you would be paying the same for less ( if you believe that not having IE is to have " less " , which I do n't ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Windows 7 + IE = âXKnowing that IE =  â0then  Windows 7 = âXwhich means you would be paying the same for less (if you believe that not having IE is to have "less", which I don't).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511593</id>
	<title>Re:Thats what you get for</title>
	<author>White Flame</author>
	<datestamp>1246271820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you might have that a bit backwards.  If<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.eu says that Microsoft isn't playing by their rules, and the prices go all askew, competitors will eat MS's market in that region.  There's already been many stories about various European governmental entities using various Linux distros as a Windows replacement.  It'd be great to have alternatives to Windows become the standard operating platform across an entire 1st world country.</p><p>However, at this stage piracy will still keep Windows in the dominant user position.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you might have that a bit backwards .
If .eu says that Microsoft is n't playing by their rules , and the prices go all askew , competitors will eat MS 's market in that region .
There 's already been many stories about various European governmental entities using various Linux distros as a Windows replacement .
It 'd be great to have alternatives to Windows become the standard operating platform across an entire 1st world country.However , at this stage piracy will still keep Windows in the dominant user position .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you might have that a bit backwards.
If .eu says that Microsoft isn't playing by their rules, and the prices go all askew, competitors will eat MS's market in that region.
There's already been many stories about various European governmental entities using various Linux distros as a Windows replacement.
It'd be great to have alternatives to Windows become the standard operating platform across an entire 1st world country.However, at this stage piracy will still keep Windows in the dominant user position.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511515</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512679</id>
	<title>Love it</title>
	<author>ledow</author>
	<datestamp>1246282380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know it's "normal practice" to do this sort of thing with IT purchases, but I do love it.  It just means that MS, whether they need to or not, are slowly pricing themselves out of the market.</p><p>As it is, I don't know of a single person who *buys* Microsoft Office / Windows.  It either comes with their (over-priced) PC, they get the "Student/Teacher" edition (I work in schools), or they run in horror at the price for a boxed copy (and I refer them to OpenOffice or other OS).  As people tighten their belts, new PC purchases are less and less common, spending limits are coming down (both in business and with consumers), and people are much less willing to buy things that are getting more and more expensive for no clear reason.</p><p>In the last six months, I've been told (by Microsoft themselves, no less) that Windows XP is basically unpurchaseable in bulk any more without signing up to annual contracts (not going to happen), that Windows Vista requires upgrades to almost every PC on my networks and provides little benefit at all, that Windows 7 is just the same, that Internet Explorer won't necessarily be included (I'm in the EU) and I'll have a choice to install alternate browsers (which makes my "Firefox on the desktop" policy even easier to justify) and now that Windows 7 is going to be more expensive than necessary.  If ever there was a time to push for replacement of the whole damn lot, it's now.</p><p>MS has dug themselves an enormous hole.  Of course people will end up buying Windows 7, but in my experience home users who have been lumbered with Vista aren't happy about it (and this is non-tech users too) and if they know the same will happen with Windows 7 they will be doing more of what they are already doing - coming to me and asking how to get "XP back".</p><p>Please, Microsoft, please... keep it up.  Piss off the EU regulator some more.  Hike prices, cut features in Windows 7, make it hard to buy what people want.  You're doing a great job so far, just continue on the same lines.  How about threatening the EU with pulling out or something, that'd be funny and useful to me.</p><p>It's a downward spiral when people who WANT to buy a product (say, XP) from you can't, and don't want your "alternative" (Vista / 7) that you suggest to them.  If that was a temporary situation, it'd be normal.  But Vista came and is now on the verge of going and still people can't buy what they want from you.  It's fantastic.  You're keeping me in work, and satisfying my own personal agenda too!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know it 's " normal practice " to do this sort of thing with IT purchases , but I do love it .
It just means that MS , whether they need to or not , are slowly pricing themselves out of the market.As it is , I do n't know of a single person who * buys * Microsoft Office / Windows .
It either comes with their ( over-priced ) PC , they get the " Student/Teacher " edition ( I work in schools ) , or they run in horror at the price for a boxed copy ( and I refer them to OpenOffice or other OS ) .
As people tighten their belts , new PC purchases are less and less common , spending limits are coming down ( both in business and with consumers ) , and people are much less willing to buy things that are getting more and more expensive for no clear reason.In the last six months , I 've been told ( by Microsoft themselves , no less ) that Windows XP is basically unpurchaseable in bulk any more without signing up to annual contracts ( not going to happen ) , that Windows Vista requires upgrades to almost every PC on my networks and provides little benefit at all , that Windows 7 is just the same , that Internet Explorer wo n't necessarily be included ( I 'm in the EU ) and I 'll have a choice to install alternate browsers ( which makes my " Firefox on the desktop " policy even easier to justify ) and now that Windows 7 is going to be more expensive than necessary .
If ever there was a time to push for replacement of the whole damn lot , it 's now.MS has dug themselves an enormous hole .
Of course people will end up buying Windows 7 , but in my experience home users who have been lumbered with Vista are n't happy about it ( and this is non-tech users too ) and if they know the same will happen with Windows 7 they will be doing more of what they are already doing - coming to me and asking how to get " XP back " .Please , Microsoft , please... keep it up .
Piss off the EU regulator some more .
Hike prices , cut features in Windows 7 , make it hard to buy what people want .
You 're doing a great job so far , just continue on the same lines .
How about threatening the EU with pulling out or something , that 'd be funny and useful to me.It 's a downward spiral when people who WANT to buy a product ( say , XP ) from you ca n't , and do n't want your " alternative " ( Vista / 7 ) that you suggest to them .
If that was a temporary situation , it 'd be normal .
But Vista came and is now on the verge of going and still people ca n't buy what they want from you .
It 's fantastic .
You 're keeping me in work , and satisfying my own personal agenda too !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know it's "normal practice" to do this sort of thing with IT purchases, but I do love it.
It just means that MS, whether they need to or not, are slowly pricing themselves out of the market.As it is, I don't know of a single person who *buys* Microsoft Office / Windows.
It either comes with their (over-priced) PC, they get the "Student/Teacher" edition (I work in schools), or they run in horror at the price for a boxed copy (and I refer them to OpenOffice or other OS).
As people tighten their belts, new PC purchases are less and less common, spending limits are coming down (both in business and with consumers), and people are much less willing to buy things that are getting more and more expensive for no clear reason.In the last six months, I've been told (by Microsoft themselves, no less) that Windows XP is basically unpurchaseable in bulk any more without signing up to annual contracts (not going to happen), that Windows Vista requires upgrades to almost every PC on my networks and provides little benefit at all, that Windows 7 is just the same, that Internet Explorer won't necessarily be included (I'm in the EU) and I'll have a choice to install alternate browsers (which makes my "Firefox on the desktop" policy even easier to justify) and now that Windows 7 is going to be more expensive than necessary.
If ever there was a time to push for replacement of the whole damn lot, it's now.MS has dug themselves an enormous hole.
Of course people will end up buying Windows 7, but in my experience home users who have been lumbered with Vista aren't happy about it (and this is non-tech users too) and if they know the same will happen with Windows 7 they will be doing more of what they are already doing - coming to me and asking how to get "XP back".Please, Microsoft, please... keep it up.
Piss off the EU regulator some more.
Hike prices, cut features in Windows 7, make it hard to buy what people want.
You're doing a great job so far, just continue on the same lines.
How about threatening the EU with pulling out or something, that'd be funny and useful to me.It's a downward spiral when people who WANT to buy a product (say, XP) from you can't, and don't want your "alternative" (Vista / 7) that you suggest to them.
If that was a temporary situation, it'd be normal.
But Vista came and is now on the verge of going and still people can't buy what they want from you.
It's fantastic.
You're keeping me in work, and satisfying my own personal agenda too!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511523</id>
	<title>Not a problem really</title>
	<author>geegel</author>
	<datestamp>1246271160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Everybody has the right to shoot himself in the leg, just don't moan when it hurts like a bitch.

I wouldn't be surprised if I'll see a sudden rise in Windows' piracy rate or, even better, see more people switch to Ubuntu.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everybody has the right to shoot himself in the leg , just do n't moan when it hurts like a bitch .
I would n't be surprised if I 'll see a sudden rise in Windows ' piracy rate or , even better , see more people switch to Ubuntu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everybody has the right to shoot himself in the leg, just don't moan when it hurts like a bitch.
I wouldn't be surprised if I'll see a sudden rise in Windows' piracy rate or, even better, see more people switch to Ubuntu.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511921</id>
	<title>Exchange rates</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246275000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has the exchange rates for souls recently changed? How about shirts?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has the exchange rates for souls recently changed ?
How about shirts ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has the exchange rates for souls recently changed?
How about shirts?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28522169</id>
	<title>Re:Well, whaddaya know</title>
	<author>joshuaobrien</author>
	<datestamp>1246281180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Microsoft want as many people to pay for Windows as possible. They also want as many people to use Windows as possible. These are not necessarily related.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft want as many people to pay for Windows as possible .
They also want as many people to use Windows as possible .
These are not necessarily related .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft want as many people to pay for Windows as possible.
They also want as many people to use Windows as possible.
These are not necessarily related.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511891</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513453</id>
	<title>Bad Data</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246287360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think your example lacks merit, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Euro was only valued that little around the three first years of it's <b>existence</b> </a> [wikipedia.org]. Since that time it has never been under $1.</p><p>Furthermore the Euro is hardly the only currency in Europe even today, and I'm not talking about British Pounds. Even now my own currency is extremely solid and attractive but we pay far more than countries that use U$D or Euro.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think your example lacks merit , the Euro was only valued that little around the three first years of it 's existence [ wikipedia.org ] .
Since that time it has never been under $ 1.Furthermore the Euro is hardly the only currency in Europe even today , and I 'm not talking about British Pounds .
Even now my own currency is extremely solid and attractive but we pay far more than countries that use U $ D or Euro .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think your example lacks merit, the Euro was only valued that little around the three first years of it's existence  [wikipedia.org].
Since that time it has never been under $1.Furthermore the Euro is hardly the only currency in Europe even today, and I'm not talking about British Pounds.
Even now my own currency is extremely solid and attractive but we pay far more than countries that use U$D or Euro.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511489</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512053</id>
	<title>Re:Thats what you get for</title>
	<author>Faluzeer</author>
	<datestamp>1246276560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"pissing off a big corporation.. Europe, get ready to pay back the massive fines microsoft was forced to pay by European legislators. Bend over and take it."</p><p>An interesting post, however it has one slight flaw...You appear to be suggesting that the reason for the high price is the recent fine that was imposed on M$.  It isn't.  M$ has always ignored actual currency exchange rates and fixed its prices at a rate that is most favourable to itself.  This is merely business as usual for M$.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" pissing off a big corporation.. Europe , get ready to pay back the massive fines microsoft was forced to pay by European legislators .
Bend over and take it .
" An interesting post , however it has one slight flaw...You appear to be suggesting that the reason for the high price is the recent fine that was imposed on M $ .
It is n't .
M $ has always ignored actual currency exchange rates and fixed its prices at a rate that is most favourable to itself .
This is merely business as usual for M $ .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"pissing off a big corporation.. Europe, get ready to pay back the massive fines microsoft was forced to pay by European legislators.
Bend over and take it.
"An interesting post, however it has one slight flaw...You appear to be suggesting that the reason for the high price is the recent fine that was imposed on M$.
It isn't.
M$ has always ignored actual currency exchange rates and fixed its prices at a rate that is most favourable to itself.
This is merely business as usual for M$.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511515</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512409</id>
	<title>Re:But it never works the other direction</title>
	<author>binkzz</author>
	<datestamp>1246279980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, when I ask companies about this they always give crappy answers, it truly annoys me. It makes me pirate certain products if I can't import them, simply because they believe they get away with patronizing their customers in Europe.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , when I ask companies about this they always give crappy answers , it truly annoys me .
It makes me pirate certain products if I ca n't import them , simply because they believe they get away with patronizing their customers in Europe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, when I ask companies about this they always give crappy answers, it truly annoys me.
It makes me pirate certain products if I can't import them, simply because they believe they get away with patronizing their customers in Europe.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511489</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512077</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>jfanning</author>
	<datestamp>1246276800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think they meant that Microsoft is making even bigger profits because of the weak dollar. So it amplifies the difference between the pricing.</p><p>And MS has a very strange idea of Europe. They don't even offer the special pre-order discount anywhere outside of France, Germany, or the UK. So those of us in the rest of Europe are totally fucked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think they meant that Microsoft is making even bigger profits because of the weak dollar .
So it amplifies the difference between the pricing.And MS has a very strange idea of Europe .
They do n't even offer the special pre-order discount anywhere outside of France , Germany , or the UK .
So those of us in the rest of Europe are totally fucked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think they meant that Microsoft is making even bigger profits because of the weak dollar.
So it amplifies the difference between the pricing.And MS has a very strange idea of Europe.
They don't even offer the special pre-order discount anywhere outside of France, Germany, or the UK.
So those of us in the rest of Europe are totally fucked.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511873</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513193</id>
	<title>Re:The same for Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246285680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems like even Linux companies want us to get Linux from torrent sites. What's wrong with these corporate people, don't they get it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems like even Linux companies want us to get Linux from torrent sites .
What 's wrong with these corporate people , do n't they get it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like even Linux companies want us to get Linux from torrent sites.
What's wrong with these corporate people, don't they get it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511627</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511853</id>
	<title>What has the US price to to with the EU price?</title>
	<author>Godwin O'Hitler</author>
	<datestamp>1246274340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the euro price has already been established as &#226;n*, the USD can fall to 5 bucks a euro if it wants; it doesn't make it any more expensive to buy in Europe except in people's imagination.<br>Americans are still paying the same price; Europeans are still paying the same price. The exchange rate goes down and Microsoft makes a windfall. Lucky Microsoft.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:shrug:</p><p>*NOTE: "&#226;" is slashdot's lame interpretation of the euro symbol.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the euro price has already been established as   n * , the USD can fall to 5 bucks a euro if it wants ; it does n't make it any more expensive to buy in Europe except in people 's imagination.Americans are still paying the same price ; Europeans are still paying the same price .
The exchange rate goes down and Microsoft makes a windfall .
Lucky Microsoft .
: shrug : * NOTE : "   " is slashdot 's lame interpretation of the euro symbol .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the euro price has already been established as ân*, the USD can fall to 5 bucks a euro if it wants; it doesn't make it any more expensive to buy in Europe except in people's imagination.Americans are still paying the same price; Europeans are still paying the same price.
The exchange rate goes down and Microsoft makes a windfall.
Lucky Microsoft.
:shrug:*NOTE: "â" is slashdot's lame interpretation of the euro symbol.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513567</id>
	<title>Re:So it will be cheaper to import even a single c</title>
	<author>dunkelfalke</author>
	<datestamp>1246288140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The customs fee are not that high. 5\% or so. But when you import, you'll have to pay import turnover tax, which is the same as VAT so it looks like the custom fee is very high.</p><p>In the GP example, the VAT is already added.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The customs fee are not that high .
5 \ % or so .
But when you import , you 'll have to pay import turnover tax , which is the same as VAT so it looks like the custom fee is very high.In the GP example , the VAT is already added .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The customs fee are not that high.
5\% or so.
But when you import, you'll have to pay import turnover tax, which is the same as VAT so it looks like the custom fee is very high.In the GP example, the VAT is already added.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511683</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511623</id>
	<title>Standard conversion rate is USD=Euro</title>
	<author>El\_Muerte\_TDS</author>
	<datestamp>1246272060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Usually the conversion rate is 1 USD is 1 Euro. For example, look at the prices for video games. A $60 game consts 60 euros. Even Valve applies this conversion rate in Steam, and Apple for their store. It's extra income for the company. And most customers don't mind that much.</p><p>Of course there are some companies that want even more, for example the Rockband game in europe was 250\% the price compared to the US retail price. EA said this was due to higher shipping rates (it's not like the other plasic toys from China cost that much).<br>But I guess that Microsoft went the same way (or as a retaliation to the fines they got), because they don't even do the $1=1 euro conversion. I bet they Blame it on localization. I'm sure that costs 85 euro per copy.</p><p>There's a fair chance this will hurt MS, because their TCO just went up a lot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Usually the conversion rate is 1 USD is 1 Euro .
For example , look at the prices for video games .
A $ 60 game consts 60 euros .
Even Valve applies this conversion rate in Steam , and Apple for their store .
It 's extra income for the company .
And most customers do n't mind that much.Of course there are some companies that want even more , for example the Rockband game in europe was 250 \ % the price compared to the US retail price .
EA said this was due to higher shipping rates ( it 's not like the other plasic toys from China cost that much ) .But I guess that Microsoft went the same way ( or as a retaliation to the fines they got ) , because they do n't even do the $ 1 = 1 euro conversion .
I bet they Blame it on localization .
I 'm sure that costs 85 euro per copy.There 's a fair chance this will hurt MS , because their TCO just went up a lot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Usually the conversion rate is 1 USD is 1 Euro.
For example, look at the prices for video games.
A $60 game consts 60 euros.
Even Valve applies this conversion rate in Steam, and Apple for their store.
It's extra income for the company.
And most customers don't mind that much.Of course there are some companies that want even more, for example the Rockband game in europe was 250\% the price compared to the US retail price.
EA said this was due to higher shipping rates (it's not like the other plasic toys from China cost that much).But I guess that Microsoft went the same way (or as a retaliation to the fines they got), because they don't even do the $1=1 euro conversion.
I bet they Blame it on localization.
I'm sure that costs 85 euro per copy.There's a fair chance this will hurt MS, because their TCO just went up a lot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28514125</id>
	<title>Third world countries price</title>
	<author>ProfMobius</author>
	<datestamp>1246290840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You didn't get it. This is perfectly normal. Microsoft always said it would sell Win7 cheaper in third world countries, and at a higher price in developed countries.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You did n't get it .
This is perfectly normal .
Microsoft always said it would sell Win7 cheaper in third world countries , and at a higher price in developed countries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You didn't get it.
This is perfectly normal.
Microsoft always said it would sell Win7 cheaper in third world countries, and at a higher price in developed countries.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28520717</id>
	<title>In some countries everything is more expensive</title>
	<author>Sycraft-fu</author>
	<datestamp>1246273620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know about the EU countries but in Canada, almost everything costs more than the US. You take the conversion rate in to account and it is still way more expensive. What amazes me is technology, like CPUs, video cards, and such. It is all more pricey by a good margin. this is pre GST/PST, by the way. I don't know the reason for it, maybe Canada charges more import duty, maybe there are higher wages along the line, maybe it is just coincidence, but shit costs more in Canada.</p><p>Could be similar for EU countries too. If things are more expensive, be silly for game companies not to do the same.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know about the EU countries but in Canada , almost everything costs more than the US .
You take the conversion rate in to account and it is still way more expensive .
What amazes me is technology , like CPUs , video cards , and such .
It is all more pricey by a good margin .
this is pre GST/PST , by the way .
I do n't know the reason for it , maybe Canada charges more import duty , maybe there are higher wages along the line , maybe it is just coincidence , but shit costs more in Canada.Could be similar for EU countries too .
If things are more expensive , be silly for game companies not to do the same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know about the EU countries but in Canada, almost everything costs more than the US.
You take the conversion rate in to account and it is still way more expensive.
What amazes me is technology, like CPUs, video cards, and such.
It is all more pricey by a good margin.
this is pre GST/PST, by the way.
I don't know the reason for it, maybe Canada charges more import duty, maybe there are higher wages along the line, maybe it is just coincidence, but shit costs more in Canada.Could be similar for EU countries too.
If things are more expensive, be silly for game companies not to do the same.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511623</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513553</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>hibiki\_r</author>
	<datestamp>1246288080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You might find that the theoretical extra buying power on an international market withers and dies when it comes to consumer prices, and it's not just about software. From videogames, to cameras and bell peppers, it's very rare to see an euro buying more stuff than a dollar can, even after taking VAT into account. I had that issue last summer, on a trip to Spain: Pretty much every item was more expensive than the equivalent in middle America, including housing. The one thing that was lower was salaries, even before taxes.</p><p>Friends and family that came to the US on vacation have been making cheap purchases to take home for a few decades, even before the euro started. The only exception was the late 90s, where the dollar traded so high as to reach price parity at retailers.</p><p>So, you see, retail prices do not really react that much to currency volatility, because retail prices have relatively little to do with the cost of goods. Only in an Argentinian-style devaluation do prices actually change with the exchange rate. Now, if we were talking commodities, it'd be a completely different story</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You might find that the theoretical extra buying power on an international market withers and dies when it comes to consumer prices , and it 's not just about software .
From videogames , to cameras and bell peppers , it 's very rare to see an euro buying more stuff than a dollar can , even after taking VAT into account .
I had that issue last summer , on a trip to Spain : Pretty much every item was more expensive than the equivalent in middle America , including housing .
The one thing that was lower was salaries , even before taxes.Friends and family that came to the US on vacation have been making cheap purchases to take home for a few decades , even before the euro started .
The only exception was the late 90s , where the dollar traded so high as to reach price parity at retailers.So , you see , retail prices do not really react that much to currency volatility , because retail prices have relatively little to do with the cost of goods .
Only in an Argentinian-style devaluation do prices actually change with the exchange rate .
Now , if we were talking commodities , it 'd be a completely different story</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You might find that the theoretical extra buying power on an international market withers and dies when it comes to consumer prices, and it's not just about software.
From videogames, to cameras and bell peppers, it's very rare to see an euro buying more stuff than a dollar can, even after taking VAT into account.
I had that issue last summer, on a trip to Spain: Pretty much every item was more expensive than the equivalent in middle America, including housing.
The one thing that was lower was salaries, even before taxes.Friends and family that came to the US on vacation have been making cheap purchases to take home for a few decades, even before the euro started.
The only exception was the late 90s, where the dollar traded so high as to reach price parity at retailers.So, you see, retail prices do not really react that much to currency volatility, because retail prices have relatively little to do with the cost of goods.
Only in an Argentinian-style devaluation do prices actually change with the exchange rate.
Now, if we were talking commodities, it'd be a completely different story</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511463</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511877</id>
	<title>#irc.tr0lltalk.com</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246274640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>in a head spinning FILE WAS OPENED code sharing</htmltext>
<tokenext>in a head spinning FILE WAS OPENED code sharing</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in a head spinning FILE WAS OPENED code sharing</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511797</id>
	<title>Re:Well, whaddaya know</title>
	<author>calmofthestorm</author>
	<datestamp>1246273740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sure the magic of monopolistic bundling with hardware will solve this problem. After all, it's why Vista sold. Seriously, why does the EU care about browsers, the tying to hardware crap is so much worse from an anti-competitive standpoint.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure the magic of monopolistic bundling with hardware will solve this problem .
After all , it 's why Vista sold .
Seriously , why does the EU care about browsers , the tying to hardware crap is so much worse from an anti-competitive standpoint .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure the magic of monopolistic bundling with hardware will solve this problem.
After all, it's why Vista sold.
Seriously, why does the EU care about browsers, the tying to hardware crap is so much worse from an anti-competitive standpoint.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511503</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512233</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>donaldm</author>
	<datestamp>1246278300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is no need to get upset at the rip-off costs of Windows 7 just tell Microsoft that you are thinking of installing Linux and watch the price of Windows 7 plummet.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is no need to get upset at the rip-off costs of Windows 7 just tell Microsoft that you are thinking of installing Linux and watch the price of Windows 7 plummet .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is no need to get upset at the rip-off costs of Windows 7 just tell Microsoft that you are thinking of installing Linux and watch the price of Windows 7 plummet.
:)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511463</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511465</id>
	<title>Not surprising</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246270740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For some reason, pretty much everything in technology is assumed 1&euro;=1$... at least ever since the dollar is weak.  Poor Britons have it worse, because they often get 1&amp;pound=1$</p><p>Try buying Apple hardware here... That hurts.... Smallest MacBook?  945&euro;  In the US 999$ (which translates to  712&euro; at current rates)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For some reason , pretty much everything in technology is assumed 1    = 1 $ ... at least ever since the dollar is weak .
Poor Britons have it worse , because they often get 1&amp;pound = 1 $ Try buying Apple hardware here... That hurts.... Smallest MacBook ?
945    In the US 999 $ ( which translates to 712    at current rates )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For some reason, pretty much everything in technology is assumed 1€=1$... at least ever since the dollar is weak.
Poor Britons have it worse, because they often get 1&amp;pound=1$Try buying Apple hardware here... That hurts.... Smallest MacBook?
945€  In the US 999$ (which translates to  712€ at current rates)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512471</id>
	<title>International restrictions?</title>
	<author>SharpFang</author>
	<datestamp>1246280520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder, what is there to stop me from getting a US-based friend to mail me a boxed US version of Windows 7?<br>Are there any restrictions against me installing the US version (bought for the US price) on a computer in Europe?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder , what is there to stop me from getting a US-based friend to mail me a boxed US version of Windows 7 ? Are there any restrictions against me installing the US version ( bought for the US price ) on a computer in Europe ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder, what is there to stop me from getting a US-based friend to mail me a boxed US version of Windows 7?Are there any restrictions against me installing the US version (bought for the US price) on a computer in Europe?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511489</id>
	<title>But it never works the other direction</title>
	<author>AtomicJake</author>
	<datestamp>1246270860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interestingly enough, when the dollar was strong against the Euro (e.g. 1 Euro = 0.8 US$), we did not have the reverse effect.  At that time in Europe, Prices of goods from the US were just increased.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interestingly enough , when the dollar was strong against the Euro ( e.g .
1 Euro = 0.8 US $ ) , we did not have the reverse effect .
At that time in Europe , Prices of goods from the US were just increased .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interestingly enough, when the dollar was strong against the Euro (e.g.
1 Euro = 0.8 US$), we did not have the reverse effect.
At that time in Europe, Prices of goods from the US were just increased.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28514203</id>
	<title>Article writer is wrong.</title>
	<author>electrosoccertux</author>
	<datestamp>1246291260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It does work the other way, you're completely right. How this got past the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. editors is beyond me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does work the other way , you 're completely right .
How this got past the / .
editors is beyond me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It does work the other way, you're completely right.
How this got past the /.
editors is beyond me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511873</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28514533</id>
	<title>Wanna bet?</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1246292760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I take any bet that I will not be allowed to buy a copy in the US and use it in Europe. International free trade my butt... Appearantly it's only a good idea when some corporation benefits, but it's a definite nono if the consumer would.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I take any bet that I will not be allowed to buy a copy in the US and use it in Europe .
International free trade my butt... Appearantly it 's only a good idea when some corporation benefits , but it 's a definite nono if the consumer would .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I take any bet that I will not be allowed to buy a copy in the US and use it in Europe.
International free trade my butt... Appearantly it's only a good idea when some corporation benefits, but it's a definite nono if the consumer would.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28518109</id>
	<title>Re:The same for Linux</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1246306920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It costs twice as much in Europe as in the USA.</p></div><p>You have to commit twice as much GPL'd code as you've checked out?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It costs twice as much in Europe as in the USA.You have to commit twice as much GPL 'd code as you 've checked out ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It costs twice as much in Europe as in the USA.You have to commit twice as much GPL'd code as you've checked out?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511627</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511903</id>
	<title>Re:So it will be cheaper to import even a single c</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246274880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>But what about customs fees?</p></div></blockquote><p>
If there are significant customs and shipping fees, wouldn't they just manufacture and package the EU editions in the EU?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But what about customs fees ?
If there are significant customs and shipping fees , would n't they just manufacture and package the EU editions in the EU ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But what about customs fees?
If there are significant customs and shipping fees, wouldn't they just manufacture and package the EU editions in the EU?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511683</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512647</id>
	<title>Two fold</title>
	<author>C\_Kode</author>
	<datestamp>1246282140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm guessing they are looking at it two fold.  First, if they can't force you to use their browser, they will make money off of it.  Second, since they had to work to rip the browser out, they are going to make someone pay for that work.  After all.  Nobody works for free right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm guessing they are looking at it two fold .
First , if they ca n't force you to use their browser , they will make money off of it .
Second , since they had to work to rip the browser out , they are going to make someone pay for that work .
After all .
Nobody works for free right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm guessing they are looking at it two fold.
First, if they can't force you to use their browser, they will make money off of it.
Second, since they had to work to rip the browser out, they are going to make someone pay for that work.
After all.
Nobody works for free right?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511503</id>
	<title>Well, whaddaya know</title>
	<author>Kokuyo</author>
	<datestamp>1246270980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft actually wants me to leech this off of BitTorrent. There's no other explanation.</p><p>Well, wouldn't want to disappoint them, no? I was pretty surprised at how little I hate Windows 7. I was actually thinking of buying. But it seems my perfect track record of never paying for Windows will remain perfect.</p><p>I mean, think about it. You can get new machines for what? 500 Euros? Do they really think that a, almost, 60\% bonus for the OS will fly? I realize that OEM deals will look decidedly different, but come on...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft actually wants me to leech this off of BitTorrent .
There 's no other explanation.Well , would n't want to disappoint them , no ?
I was pretty surprised at how little I hate Windows 7 .
I was actually thinking of buying .
But it seems my perfect track record of never paying for Windows will remain perfect.I mean , think about it .
You can get new machines for what ?
500 Euros ?
Do they really think that a , almost , 60 \ % bonus for the OS will fly ?
I realize that OEM deals will look decidedly different , but come on.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft actually wants me to leech this off of BitTorrent.
There's no other explanation.Well, wouldn't want to disappoint them, no?
I was pretty surprised at how little I hate Windows 7.
I was actually thinking of buying.
But it seems my perfect track record of never paying for Windows will remain perfect.I mean, think about it.
You can get new machines for what?
500 Euros?
Do they really think that a, almost, 60\% bonus for the OS will fly?
I realize that OEM deals will look decidedly different, but come on...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511515</id>
	<title>Thats what you get for</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246271040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>pissing off a big corporation..

Europe, get ready to pay back the massive fines microsoft was forced to pay by European legislators.

Bend over and take it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>pissing off a big corporation. . Europe , get ready to pay back the massive fines microsoft was forced to pay by European legislators .
Bend over and take it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>pissing off a big corporation..

Europe, get ready to pay back the massive fines microsoft was forced to pay by European legislators.
Bend over and take it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511913</id>
	<title>Re:OEM Prices Please</title>
	<author>peragrin</author>
	<datestamp>1246275000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>except for the 50\% of people who don 't qualify for the OEM/ education versions.</p><p>If your OEM and your installing it on non authorized machines then you will be sued by MSFT it is just a matter of time until they find out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>except for the 50 \ % of people who don 't qualify for the OEM/ education versions.If your OEM and your installing it on non authorized machines then you will be sued by MSFT it is just a matter of time until they find out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>except for the 50\% of people who don 't qualify for the OEM/ education versions.If your OEM and your installing it on non authorized machines then you will be sued by MSFT it is just a matter of time until they find out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511453</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513109</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>Tony Hoyle</author>
	<datestamp>1246284960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Prices never reflect cost of production.  Prices reflect what the consumer is willing to pay.</p><p>As far as the dollar price, I'd expect exchange rates in Japan/China having more of an affect on production cost at least for Hardware.  For Software duplication can happen anywhere.. I expect for something like Win7 they'll be duplicating it in Europe and selling it internally (thus avoiding import duties).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Prices never reflect cost of production .
Prices reflect what the consumer is willing to pay.As far as the dollar price , I 'd expect exchange rates in Japan/China having more of an affect on production cost at least for Hardware .
For Software duplication can happen anywhere.. I expect for something like Win7 they 'll be duplicating it in Europe and selling it internally ( thus avoiding import duties ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Prices never reflect cost of production.
Prices reflect what the consumer is willing to pay.As far as the dollar price, I'd expect exchange rates in Japan/China having more of an affect on production cost at least for Hardware.
For Software duplication can happen anywhere.. I expect for something like Win7 they'll be duplicating it in Europe and selling it internally (thus avoiding import duties).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511873</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28516857</id>
	<title>Re:Guys am I the only one to see this?</title>
	<author>darkmeridian</author>
	<datestamp>1246302060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think this is the best reason to explain Microsoft's actions. The EU decided to levy huge fines against Microsoft and forced it to remove Internet Explorer from Windows 7. Microsoft risks getting fined again by the EU just by selling Windows 7 there. It's not unfair for Microsoft to charge more for Windows 7 to compensate for that risk.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think this is the best reason to explain Microsoft 's actions .
The EU decided to levy huge fines against Microsoft and forced it to remove Internet Explorer from Windows 7 .
Microsoft risks getting fined again by the EU just by selling Windows 7 there .
It 's not unfair for Microsoft to charge more for Windows 7 to compensate for that risk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think this is the best reason to explain Microsoft's actions.
The EU decided to levy huge fines against Microsoft and forced it to remove Internet Explorer from Windows 7.
Microsoft risks getting fined again by the EU just by selling Windows 7 there.
It's not unfair for Microsoft to charge more for Windows 7 to compensate for that risk.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512059</id>
	<title>pfft... wasted read.</title>
	<author>Stumbles</author>
	<datestamp>1246276620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What a fudster that guy is. They guy is talking about international money exchange rates... ok fine. Then comparing, based on the exchange rates when he wrote the article, the differences some countries would pay in relation to the US. Ok, fine, good. But the guy blows his whole credibility by later inserting the EU directive to Microsoft's Explorer removal, and that some how is a factor in the cost differences. Bullshit. They guy is just using the exchange rates as FUD... he is mixing apples and oranges. Unless his real intent is to wake up you virus riddled, trojan-ned infested zombified Window users to dump that OS and use something more secure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What a fudster that guy is .
They guy is talking about international money exchange rates... ok fine .
Then comparing , based on the exchange rates when he wrote the article , the differences some countries would pay in relation to the US .
Ok , fine , good .
But the guy blows his whole credibility by later inserting the EU directive to Microsoft 's Explorer removal , and that some how is a factor in the cost differences .
Bullshit. They guy is just using the exchange rates as FUD... he is mixing apples and oranges .
Unless his real intent is to wake up you virus riddled , trojan-ned infested zombified Window users to dump that OS and use something more secure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a fudster that guy is.
They guy is talking about international money exchange rates... ok fine.
Then comparing, based on the exchange rates when he wrote the article, the differences some countries would pay in relation to the US.
Ok, fine, good.
But the guy blows his whole credibility by later inserting the EU directive to Microsoft's Explorer removal, and that some how is a factor in the cost differences.
Bullshit. They guy is just using the exchange rates as FUD... he is mixing apples and oranges.
Unless his real intent is to wake up you virus riddled, trojan-ned infested zombified Window users to dump that OS and use something more secure.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28514107</id>
	<title>Don't Blame the US or MS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246290720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey don't blame the US because all software innovation comes from here. The only real competitor to Microsoft's dominance comes from Apple, who is also an American company. Sure their is Linux, but again where did the roots of Linux come from? UNIX which was created where, in the US.</p><p>So don't blame us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey do n't blame the US because all software innovation comes from here .
The only real competitor to Microsoft 's dominance comes from Apple , who is also an American company .
Sure their is Linux , but again where did the roots of Linux come from ?
UNIX which was created where , in the US.So do n't blame us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey don't blame the US because all software innovation comes from here.
The only real competitor to Microsoft's dominance comes from Apple, who is also an American company.
Sure their is Linux, but again where did the roots of Linux come from?
UNIX which was created where, in the US.So don't blame us.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511891</id>
	<title>Re:Well, whaddaya know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246274820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Microsoft actually wants me to leech this off of BitTorrent. There's no other explanation.</p></div><p>I am confused. Where does this feeling of entitlement to someones product come from? If you don't agree with their pricing for Windows 7, you are free to use the older version if you have it or switch to any of the many different free operating systems available.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft actually wants me to leech this off of BitTorrent .
There 's no other explanation.I am confused .
Where does this feeling of entitlement to someones product come from ?
If you do n't agree with their pricing for Windows 7 , you are free to use the older version if you have it or switch to any of the many different free operating systems available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft actually wants me to leech this off of BitTorrent.
There's no other explanation.I am confused.
Where does this feeling of entitlement to someones product come from?
If you don't agree with their pricing for Windows 7, you are free to use the older version if you have it or switch to any of the many different free operating systems available.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511503</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511753</id>
	<title>Why the UK/EU price difference?</title>
	<author>sulimma</author>
	<datestamp>1246273320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Any customer in the EU is free to purchase from UK retailers.</p><p>If Microsoft tries to prevent this they could be fined by the comission. (Happend before to VW and others.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Any customer in the EU is free to purchase from UK retailers.If Microsoft tries to prevent this they could be fined by the comission .
( Happend before to VW and others .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any customer in the EU is free to purchase from UK retailers.If Microsoft tries to prevent this they could be fined by the comission.
(Happend before to VW and others.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513081</id>
	<title>Microsoft Schill!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246284780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Serious, why is the author mention anything about the Browser?  It's the exchange rate that is causing the price increase not the removal of IE.  Also, who the f$ck cares if the browser is removed from the OS.  To bill it as "getting less" seems rather disingenuous.  The browsers is the most trivial component of an OS.  You can get one anywhere.  Linux ships with several of them!</p><p>Jackass!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Serious , why is the author mention anything about the Browser ?
It 's the exchange rate that is causing the price increase not the removal of IE .
Also , who the f $ ck cares if the browser is removed from the OS .
To bill it as " getting less " seems rather disingenuous .
The browsers is the most trivial component of an OS .
You can get one anywhere .
Linux ships with several of them ! Jackass !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Serious, why is the author mention anything about the Browser?
It's the exchange rate that is causing the price increase not the removal of IE.
Also, who the f$ck cares if the browser is removed from the OS.
To bill it as "getting less" seems rather disingenuous.
The browsers is the most trivial component of an OS.
You can get one anywhere.
Linux ships with several of them!Jackass!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513023</id>
	<title>Wait Wait</title>
	<author>kenp2002</author>
	<datestamp>1246284480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So the EU tries to sue the piss outta M$, fines them, forces them to help their competitors, levys some weird tarrifs, and a loads of other crap and now they bitch that M$ is charging them more?</p><p>Wow in the EU I guess between Spanish, Italian, German, Greek, Slavic, Finnish, whatever the evil and vile Dutch overlords speak (we lubs you anyways), and Arabic, don't have a word for RETRIBUTION.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>An old quote comes to mind from a comedian:</p><p>"Hey when I hire a dominatrix, I don't complain about getting beat up, I PAY to get beat up!"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So the EU tries to sue the piss outta M $ , fines them , forces them to help their competitors , levys some weird tarrifs , and a loads of other crap and now they bitch that M $ is charging them more ? Wow in the EU I guess between Spanish , Italian , German , Greek , Slavic , Finnish , whatever the evil and vile Dutch overlords speak ( we lubs you anyways ) , and Arabic , do n't have a word for RETRIBUTION .
: ) An old quote comes to mind from a comedian : " Hey when I hire a dominatrix , I do n't complain about getting beat up , I PAY to get beat up !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So the EU tries to sue the piss outta M$, fines them, forces them to help their competitors, levys some weird tarrifs, and a loads of other crap and now they bitch that M$ is charging them more?Wow in the EU I guess between Spanish, Italian, German, Greek, Slavic, Finnish, whatever the evil and vile Dutch overlords speak (we lubs you anyways), and Arabic, don't have a word for RETRIBUTION.
:)An old quote comes to mind from a comedian:"Hey when I hire a dominatrix, I don't complain about getting beat up, I PAY to get beat up!
"
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512155</id>
	<title>The end of Windows' dominance?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246277400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft better reconsider pricing in Europe or it is bound to lose its market to Linux and maybe even Apple.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft better reconsider pricing in Europe or it is bound to lose its market to Linux and maybe even Apple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft better reconsider pricing in Europe or it is bound to lose its market to Linux and maybe even Apple.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28514501</id>
	<title>Re:OEM Prices Please</title>
	<author>Rockoon</author>
	<datestamp>1246292640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There are some catches, once the package is opened there are no returns(you can see the serial number) some OEM packaging is changing and sellers are accepting returns, once installed on a motherboard it is stuck to that computer and under the OEM no motherboard switching even if it breaks</p></div><p>
Not true in practice. When I changed machines completely (from a 2ghz Athlon to a 3800+ AMD64 dual core) all that was required was that I call Microsoft for a manual XP activation code (which came from a guy in India who asked me a few simple questions.. Just told him I upgraded my computer.. the facts)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are some catches , once the package is opened there are no returns ( you can see the serial number ) some OEM packaging is changing and sellers are accepting returns , once installed on a motherboard it is stuck to that computer and under the OEM no motherboard switching even if it breaks Not true in practice .
When I changed machines completely ( from a 2ghz Athlon to a 3800 + AMD64 dual core ) all that was required was that I call Microsoft for a manual XP activation code ( which came from a guy in India who asked me a few simple questions.. Just told him I upgraded my computer.. the facts )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are some catches, once the package is opened there are no returns(you can see the serial number) some OEM packaging is changing and sellers are accepting returns, once installed on a motherboard it is stuck to that computer and under the OEM no motherboard switching even if it breaks
Not true in practice.
When I changed machines completely (from a 2ghz Athlon to a 3800+ AMD64 dual core) all that was required was that I call Microsoft for a manual XP activation code (which came from a guy in India who asked me a few simple questions.. Just told him I upgraded my computer.. the facts)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513047</id>
	<title>Re:But it never works the other direction</title>
	<author>AtomicJake</author>
	<datestamp>1246284600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So convert your Euros into Dollars, then buy it from the US at half the effective price. Surely it's worth the effort to save that much.</p></div><p>As somebody else pointed out: This is prohibited by the license.</p><p>Slightly OT: That's also (one big reason) why DVDs have region encoding<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So convert your Euros into Dollars , then buy it from the US at half the effective price .
Surely it 's worth the effort to save that much.As somebody else pointed out : This is prohibited by the license.Slightly OT : That 's also ( one big reason ) why DVDs have region encoding .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So convert your Euros into Dollars, then buy it from the US at half the effective price.
Surely it's worth the effort to save that much.As somebody else pointed out: This is prohibited by the license.Slightly OT: That's also (one big reason) why DVDs have region encoding ...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511683</id>
	<title>Re:So it will be cheaper to import even a single c</title>
	<author>cpghost</author>
	<datestamp>1246272660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>$199 + ~$20 shipping + 17-23\% VAT - a single imported windows seven pro would be no more than $270, or 192 euro. You save 97 euro or $135 PER licence.</p></div></blockquote><p>But what about customs fees? They usually exceed VAT a lot, due to protectionism. And will a US copy of Windows activate from a European IP address / European phone call?</p><p>Actually, the higher price is probably also due to I18N translation costs, though that is certainly not the only reason. The main reason is IMHO simply higher purchasing power in the EU, compared to the US. Even within the EU, consumer prices are usually higher in Germany than in Spain. But compared to the purchasing power in those countries, it is more or less the same.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 199 + ~ $ 20 shipping + 17-23 \ % VAT - a single imported windows seven pro would be no more than $ 270 , or 192 euro .
You save 97 euro or $ 135 PER licence.But what about customs fees ?
They usually exceed VAT a lot , due to protectionism .
And will a US copy of Windows activate from a European IP address / European phone call ? Actually , the higher price is probably also due to I18N translation costs , though that is certainly not the only reason .
The main reason is IMHO simply higher purchasing power in the EU , compared to the US .
Even within the EU , consumer prices are usually higher in Germany than in Spain .
But compared to the purchasing power in those countries , it is more or less the same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$199 + ~$20 shipping + 17-23\% VAT - a single imported windows seven pro would be no more than $270, or 192 euro.
You save 97 euro or $135 PER licence.But what about customs fees?
They usually exceed VAT a lot, due to protectionism.
And will a US copy of Windows activate from a European IP address / European phone call?Actually, the higher price is probably also due to I18N translation costs, though that is certainly not the only reason.
The main reason is IMHO simply higher purchasing power in the EU, compared to the US.
Even within the EU, consumer prices are usually higher in Germany than in Spain.
But compared to the purchasing power in those countries, it is more or less the same.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28515995</id>
	<title>Re:Guys am I the only one to see this?</title>
	<author>mattwarden</author>
	<datestamp>1246298760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>True, but the politicians will be re-elected.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>True , but the politicians will be re-elected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True, but the politicians will be re-elected.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512617</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511701</id>
	<title>Typo in summary</title>
	<author>ChienAndalu</author>
	<datestamp>1246272780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know this is slightly offtopic, but who else noticed that it reads "WIndows 7" instead of "Windows 7" in the headline? (At the time I am writing this)</p><p>I want to know this because I suspect I might have a superpower.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know this is slightly offtopic , but who else noticed that it reads " WIndows 7 " instead of " Windows 7 " in the headline ?
( At the time I am writing this ) I want to know this because I suspect I might have a superpower .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know this is slightly offtopic, but who else noticed that it reads "WIndows 7" instead of "Windows 7" in the headline?
(At the time I am writing this)I want to know this because I suspect I might have a superpower.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511829</id>
	<title>Financial crisis, it's all good.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246274100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm starting to like this financial crisis-thingy.<br> <br>

It drives up the price on Windows, it flushes out a lot of bad bank-decisions along with their inventors, it pummels the prices on housing (I'm renting my appartment, so nice market for me now), it makes people switch to Linux because it's free.<br> <br>

Really, it should be called "Financial Happy Times" or something.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm starting to like this financial crisis-thingy .
It drives up the price on Windows , it flushes out a lot of bad bank-decisions along with their inventors , it pummels the prices on housing ( I 'm renting my appartment , so nice market for me now ) , it makes people switch to Linux because it 's free .
Really , it should be called " Financial Happy Times " or something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm starting to like this financial crisis-thingy.
It drives up the price on Windows, it flushes out a lot of bad bank-decisions along with their inventors, it pummels the prices on housing (I'm renting my appartment, so nice market for me now), it makes people switch to Linux because it's free.
Really, it should be called "Financial Happy Times" or something.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512247</id>
	<title>Re:The same for Linux</title>
	<author>vodevil</author>
	<datestamp>1246278420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It costs twice as much in Europe as in the USA.</p></div><p>Some versions cost upwards of 1000x as much as in the U.S.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It costs twice as much in Europe as in the USA.Some versions cost upwards of 1000x as much as in the U.S .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It costs twice as much in Europe as in the USA.Some versions cost upwards of 1000x as much as in the U.S.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511627</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28517173</id>
	<title>Re:So don't buy it....</title>
	<author>arkhan\_jg</author>
	<datestamp>1246303260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, I'll be sure to tell my boss that the company doesn't need all of the current windows-only software so linux isn't a problem, and that we can ignore the rapidly approaching security end-of-life on XP. Hell, office 2007 documents open absolutely perfectly in open office.</p><p>Just because you, as an individual, have alternatives doesn't mean businesses do. And even if we could switch to linux on everything, we'd still be screwed trying to exchange document formats with others.</p><p>This is a rogering for european and british business, and there's absolutely nothing we can do but take it in the wallet. Gotta love monopolies!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , I 'll be sure to tell my boss that the company does n't need all of the current windows-only software so linux is n't a problem , and that we can ignore the rapidly approaching security end-of-life on XP .
Hell , office 2007 documents open absolutely perfectly in open office.Just because you , as an individual , have alternatives does n't mean businesses do .
And even if we could switch to linux on everything , we 'd still be screwed trying to exchange document formats with others.This is a rogering for european and british business , and there 's absolutely nothing we can do but take it in the wallet .
Got ta love monopolies !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, I'll be sure to tell my boss that the company doesn't need all of the current windows-only software so linux isn't a problem, and that we can ignore the rapidly approaching security end-of-life on XP.
Hell, office 2007 documents open absolutely perfectly in open office.Just because you, as an individual, have alternatives doesn't mean businesses do.
And even if we could switch to linux on everything, we'd still be screwed trying to exchange document formats with others.This is a rogering for european and british business, and there's absolutely nothing we can do but take it in the wallet.
Gotta love monopolies!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512771</id>
	<title>Isn't this backwards?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246282920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The US dollar is cheap, and getting cheaper. Therefor, Windows over in Europe ought to be cheaper than it would have been, not more expensive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The US dollar is cheap , and getting cheaper .
Therefor , Windows over in Europe ought to be cheaper than it would have been , not more expensive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The US dollar is cheap, and getting cheaper.
Therefor, Windows over in Europe ought to be cheaper than it would have been, not more expensive.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512243</id>
	<title>Re:Hey Guys...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246278420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm gagging for Haiku to hit gold. It has the great design of BeOS and none of the featuritis crowd-sourcing bullshit that comes with Linux. Ah, simplicity. A good browser, email client, and office app like Gobe Productive and it would do for anyone's granny. If anyone got a decent VM running on Haiku so I could run legacy Windows apps and games on the thing without a hitch I'm sold. Fuck Windows. Fuck Microsoft. Oh, yeah. And fuck sodding Linux for being such a pain in the ass and OS X for being elitist. I don't need that shit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm gagging for Haiku to hit gold .
It has the great design of BeOS and none of the featuritis crowd-sourcing bullshit that comes with Linux .
Ah , simplicity .
A good browser , email client , and office app like Gobe Productive and it would do for anyone 's granny .
If anyone got a decent VM running on Haiku so I could run legacy Windows apps and games on the thing without a hitch I 'm sold .
Fuck Windows .
Fuck Microsoft .
Oh , yeah .
And fuck sodding Linux for being such a pain in the ass and OS X for being elitist .
I do n't need that shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm gagging for Haiku to hit gold.
It has the great design of BeOS and none of the featuritis crowd-sourcing bullshit that comes with Linux.
Ah, simplicity.
A good browser, email client, and office app like Gobe Productive and it would do for anyone's granny.
If anyone got a decent VM running on Haiku so I could run legacy Windows apps and games on the thing without a hitch I'm sold.
Fuck Windows.
Fuck Microsoft.
Oh, yeah.
And fuck sodding Linux for being such a pain in the ass and OS X for being elitist.
I don't need that shit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511873</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246274580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I fail to see the link between a "weaker dollar" and higher prices in the EU. Actually, it should work the other way - a weaker dollar should lead to *lower* prices in the EU, in Euros.

Anyway, i never understood the pricing of some companies - MS, Apple, Sony - as they seem to assume that 1$ = 1 = 0.75&pound; or something.
Economically this just doesn't make sense. The prices should reflect the costs, which in these companies are in different currencies. The prices should then be ajusted to reflect the division of the costs in these currencies, and some hedging should be done to counteract exchange rate risk.

Just assuming a fixed exchange rate (one which is wrong...) just doesn't make sense to me.

I would love to see the justification for this, including why the prices in EU and Britain always seem to be higher than in the US or Japan.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I fail to see the link between a " weaker dollar " and higher prices in the EU .
Actually , it should work the other way - a weaker dollar should lead to * lower * prices in the EU , in Euros .
Anyway , i never understood the pricing of some companies - MS , Apple , Sony - as they seem to assume that 1 $ = 1 = 0.75   or something .
Economically this just does n't make sense .
The prices should reflect the costs , which in these companies are in different currencies .
The prices should then be ajusted to reflect the division of the costs in these currencies , and some hedging should be done to counteract exchange rate risk .
Just assuming a fixed exchange rate ( one which is wrong... ) just does n't make sense to me .
I would love to see the justification for this , including why the prices in EU and Britain always seem to be higher than in the US or Japan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I fail to see the link between a "weaker dollar" and higher prices in the EU.
Actually, it should work the other way - a weaker dollar should lead to *lower* prices in the EU, in Euros.
Anyway, i never understood the pricing of some companies - MS, Apple, Sony - as they seem to assume that 1$ = 1 = 0.75£ or something.
Economically this just doesn't make sense.
The prices should reflect the costs, which in these companies are in different currencies.
The prices should then be ajusted to reflect the division of the costs in these currencies, and some hedging should be done to counteract exchange rate risk.
Just assuming a fixed exchange rate (one which is wrong...) just doesn't make sense to me.
I would love to see the justification for this, including why the prices in EU and Britain always seem to be higher than in the US or Japan.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28519023</id>
	<title>Re:OEM Prices Please</title>
	<author>master811</author>
	<datestamp>1246267260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm amazed also that everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that the article is comparing RETAIL prices (in the EU) to UPGRADE prices in the US.  They won't be selling Upgrade copies in the EU, so as a result have dropped the cost of the Retail price down.</p><p>If you actually compare the EU retail, to the US retail, the prices are actually very fair, and more or less the same.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm amazed also that everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that the article is comparing RETAIL prices ( in the EU ) to UPGRADE prices in the US .
They wo n't be selling Upgrade copies in the EU , so as a result have dropped the cost of the Retail price down.If you actually compare the EU retail , to the US retail , the prices are actually very fair , and more or less the same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm amazed also that everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that the article is comparing RETAIL prices (in the EU) to UPGRADE prices in the US.
They won't be selling Upgrade copies in the EU, so as a result have dropped the cost of the Retail price down.If you actually compare the EU retail, to the US retail, the prices are actually very fair, and more or less the same.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512805</id>
	<title>Re:Financial crisis, it's all good.</title>
	<author>dkleinsc</author>
	<datestamp>1246283100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know, just because it's good for you right now doesn't mean the whole financial crisis doesn't suck for a lot of other folks, and won't suck for you in the near future (e.g. you get caught by a layoff, or your brother turns up broke on your doorstep).</p><p>In the interests of full disclosure, I'm in roughly the same position as you right now: good job, cash in the bank that will probably turn into a down payment eventually, and ridiculously low fixed expenses. But I also know that the situation can change on a dime.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , just because it 's good for you right now does n't mean the whole financial crisis does n't suck for a lot of other folks , and wo n't suck for you in the near future ( e.g .
you get caught by a layoff , or your brother turns up broke on your doorstep ) .In the interests of full disclosure , I 'm in roughly the same position as you right now : good job , cash in the bank that will probably turn into a down payment eventually , and ridiculously low fixed expenses .
But I also know that the situation can change on a dime .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, just because it's good for you right now doesn't mean the whole financial crisis doesn't suck for a lot of other folks, and won't suck for you in the near future (e.g.
you get caught by a layoff, or your brother turns up broke on your doorstep).In the interests of full disclosure, I'm in roughly the same position as you right now: good job, cash in the bank that will probably turn into a down payment eventually, and ridiculously low fixed expenses.
But I also know that the situation can change on a dime.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28514659</id>
	<title>Re:Guys am I the only one to see this?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246293300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft doesn't make very much money off of retail sales of Windows, the bulk of the money comes from OEM sales. Very few people are smart or willing enough to install an operating system. Hell a lot of people don't realize that Windows != their computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft does n't make very much money off of retail sales of Windows , the bulk of the money comes from OEM sales .
Very few people are smart or willing enough to install an operating system .
Hell a lot of people do n't realize that Windows ! = their computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft doesn't make very much money off of retail sales of Windows, the bulk of the money comes from OEM sales.
Very few people are smart or willing enough to install an operating system.
Hell a lot of people don't realize that Windows != their computer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511883</id>
	<title>Re:Not a problem really</title>
	<author>MrKaos</author>
	<datestamp>1246274760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>or, even better, see more people switch to Ubuntu.</p></div></blockquote><p>
A neighbour asked if I would build him a grunty machine to do video production and as a general use computer. He told me he had heard Vista was a nightmare, he needed a machine now, and he wasn't sure what he should do. </p><p>
I told him that XP probably wouldn't 'get the juice' out of the current generation of processors properly and that windows 7 won't be out for a while and would he like to give Ubuntu (studio) a go. I told him he would at least save on the price of a copy of windows and he might be able to buy some other gear. As suggested by a slashdotter here I let him know that there would probably be problems as any computer has but we can work through any issues that arise, so far all has gone well.</p><p>
I was pleasantly surprised by the latest Ubuntu Studio Jaunty release. His video camera and mobile phone worked with it immediately, the webcam on the ASUS monitor works well with skype. We setup Amarok for his music collection. I showed him how to install more software, told him there were other video programs aside for Kino but to give this one a go, now he is using it to make dvd's of his fishing trips.</p><p>
My neighbour is a fireman, and is quite humble about his proficiency as a computer user. I told him the machine is NOT windows or a mac but he is using the machine with confidence blowing away any pre-conceptions in my mind of Linux usability. He is about as far away from being a Linux geek as anyone can be and keeping the purchase price of windows, to him, meant he could afford a kick ass logitech speaker setup and most of the purchase price of a new HP printer. When I asked him a few days ago about how the new computer was going his exact word were:</p><p>
<i>"I'm lovin' it"</i> </p><p>
Linux may not be ready for the desktop, but I think it's fast becoming the new value proposition.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>or , even better , see more people switch to Ubuntu .
A neighbour asked if I would build him a grunty machine to do video production and as a general use computer .
He told me he had heard Vista was a nightmare , he needed a machine now , and he was n't sure what he should do .
I told him that XP probably would n't 'get the juice ' out of the current generation of processors properly and that windows 7 wo n't be out for a while and would he like to give Ubuntu ( studio ) a go .
I told him he would at least save on the price of a copy of windows and he might be able to buy some other gear .
As suggested by a slashdotter here I let him know that there would probably be problems as any computer has but we can work through any issues that arise , so far all has gone well .
I was pleasantly surprised by the latest Ubuntu Studio Jaunty release .
His video camera and mobile phone worked with it immediately , the webcam on the ASUS monitor works well with skype .
We setup Amarok for his music collection .
I showed him how to install more software , told him there were other video programs aside for Kino but to give this one a go , now he is using it to make dvd 's of his fishing trips .
My neighbour is a fireman , and is quite humble about his proficiency as a computer user .
I told him the machine is NOT windows or a mac but he is using the machine with confidence blowing away any pre-conceptions in my mind of Linux usability .
He is about as far away from being a Linux geek as anyone can be and keeping the purchase price of windows , to him , meant he could afford a kick ass logitech speaker setup and most of the purchase price of a new HP printer .
When I asked him a few days ago about how the new computer was going his exact word were : " I 'm lovin ' it " Linux may not be ready for the desktop , but I think it 's fast becoming the new value proposition .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or, even better, see more people switch to Ubuntu.
A neighbour asked if I would build him a grunty machine to do video production and as a general use computer.
He told me he had heard Vista was a nightmare, he needed a machine now, and he wasn't sure what he should do.
I told him that XP probably wouldn't 'get the juice' out of the current generation of processors properly and that windows 7 won't be out for a while and would he like to give Ubuntu (studio) a go.
I told him he would at least save on the price of a copy of windows and he might be able to buy some other gear.
As suggested by a slashdotter here I let him know that there would probably be problems as any computer has but we can work through any issues that arise, so far all has gone well.
I was pleasantly surprised by the latest Ubuntu Studio Jaunty release.
His video camera and mobile phone worked with it immediately, the webcam on the ASUS monitor works well with skype.
We setup Amarok for his music collection.
I showed him how to install more software, told him there were other video programs aside for Kino but to give this one a go, now he is using it to make dvd's of his fishing trips.
My neighbour is a fireman, and is quite humble about his proficiency as a computer user.
I told him the machine is NOT windows or a mac but he is using the machine with confidence blowing away any pre-conceptions in my mind of Linux usability.
He is about as far away from being a Linux geek as anyone can be and keeping the purchase price of windows, to him, meant he could afford a kick ass logitech speaker setup and most of the purchase price of a new HP printer.
When I asked him a few days ago about how the new computer was going his exact word were:
"I'm lovin' it" 
Linux may not be ready for the desktop, but I think it's fast becoming the new value proposition.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28534845</id>
	<title>The Math</title>
	<author>Godji</author>
	<datestamp>1246356660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let's do the math. Windows with IE, $200. Windows without IE, $400.<br>
<br>
Therefore, cost of IE alone: -$200.<br>
<br>
So <i>that</i>'s how much IE is really worth!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's do the math .
Windows with IE , $ 200 .
Windows without IE , $ 400 .
Therefore , cost of IE alone : - $ 200 .
So that 's how much IE is really worth !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's do the math.
Windows with IE, $200.
Windows without IE, $400.
Therefore, cost of IE alone: -$200.
So that's how much IE is really worth!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512357</id>
	<title>Re:But it never works the other direction</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1246279500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So convert your Euros into Dollars, then buy it from the US at half the effective price. Surely it's worth the effort to save that much.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So convert your Euros into Dollars , then buy it from the US at half the effective price .
Surely it 's worth the effort to save that much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So convert your Euros into Dollars, then buy it from the US at half the effective price.
Surely it's worth the effort to save that much.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512127</id>
	<title>I hate to say this, but it's always been so...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246277160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is no recent phenomenon. This has been the case for us in the UK as long as I can remember.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is no recent phenomenon .
This has been the case for us in the UK as long as I can remember .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is no recent phenomenon.
This has been the case for us in the UK as long as I can remember.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28515467</id>
	<title>Re:Hey Guys...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246296780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If people don't pirate and more people switch to Linux, chances are big this is just what is going to happen.</p><p>If the market share of Linux is rising above a certain level you can be sure company's that are not in the pocket of Microsoft will start developing Linux native versions of their software. As an alternative they could contact the wine team and make sure the software runs flawlessly under wine...</p><p>I am sure it is just a question of time before these things are starting to happen. Do not forget there are allready very professional applications like Maya and Houdini available as Linux native version. Not long ago Nero has made a Linux version of their burning software, and they are not the only ones. Picasa is ported to Linux and is used by a lot of photo amateurs. Also for the same amateur the programs Lightzone and RawTerapee are available. On the music front a lot of development is under way, and a lot of VST and Sequencer applications are ported (energyXT and ReNoise comes in mind).</p><p>Things are speeding up indeed....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If people do n't pirate and more people switch to Linux , chances are big this is just what is going to happen.If the market share of Linux is rising above a certain level you can be sure company 's that are not in the pocket of Microsoft will start developing Linux native versions of their software .
As an alternative they could contact the wine team and make sure the software runs flawlessly under wine...I am sure it is just a question of time before these things are starting to happen .
Do not forget there are allready very professional applications like Maya and Houdini available as Linux native version .
Not long ago Nero has made a Linux version of their burning software , and they are not the only ones .
Picasa is ported to Linux and is used by a lot of photo amateurs .
Also for the same amateur the programs Lightzone and RawTerapee are available .
On the music front a lot of development is under way , and a lot of VST and Sequencer applications are ported ( energyXT and ReNoise comes in mind ) .Things are speeding up indeed... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If people don't pirate and more people switch to Linux, chances are big this is just what is going to happen.If the market share of Linux is rising above a certain level you can be sure company's that are not in the pocket of Microsoft will start developing Linux native versions of their software.
As an alternative they could contact the wine team and make sure the software runs flawlessly under wine...I am sure it is just a question of time before these things are starting to happen.
Do not forget there are allready very professional applications like Maya and Houdini available as Linux native version.
Not long ago Nero has made a Linux version of their burning software, and they are not the only ones.
Picasa is ported to Linux and is used by a lot of photo amateurs.
Also for the same amateur the programs Lightzone and RawTerapee are available.
On the music front a lot of development is under way, and a lot of VST and Sequencer applications are ported (energyXT and ReNoise comes in mind).Things are speeding up indeed....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512549</id>
	<title>Re:Typo in summary</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1246281180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I know this is slightly offtopic, but who else noticed that it reads "WIndows 7" instead of "Windows 7" in the headline? (At the time I am writing this)</p><p>I want to know this because I suspect I might have a superpower.</p></div><p>You do. Its just not a very useful superpower... I see a good future for you proofreading ephemeral online news.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know this is slightly offtopic , but who else noticed that it reads " WIndows 7 " instead of " Windows 7 " in the headline ?
( At the time I am writing this ) I want to know this because I suspect I might have a superpower.You do .
Its just not a very useful superpower... I see a good future for you proofreading ephemeral online news .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know this is slightly offtopic, but who else noticed that it reads "WIndows 7" instead of "Windows 7" in the headline?
(At the time I am writing this)I want to know this because I suspect I might have a superpower.You do.
Its just not a very useful superpower... I see a good future for you proofreading ephemeral online news.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28513029</id>
	<title>Is it easy in EU to get money back for unused Win?</title>
	<author>alukin</author>
	<datestamp>1246284480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only question that I am concerning about Win7 price is M$ taxes that I pay buying notebook. I just can not get good notebook without Win installed. And it is almost impossible in Ukraine to get money back for unused Win. I do not need it at all because I am quite satisfied with Linux.</p><p>The question:</p><p>Is it easy in EU to get money back for pre-installed Windows we must buy with notebook?<br>I do not agree to pay $400 for thing I do not need at all!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only question that I am concerning about Win7 price is M $ taxes that I pay buying notebook .
I just can not get good notebook without Win installed .
And it is almost impossible in Ukraine to get money back for unused Win .
I do not need it at all because I am quite satisfied with Linux.The question : Is it easy in EU to get money back for pre-installed Windows we must buy with notebook ? I do not agree to pay $ 400 for thing I do not need at all !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only question that I am concerning about Win7 price is M$ taxes that I pay buying notebook.
I just can not get good notebook without Win installed.
And it is almost impossible in Ukraine to get money back for unused Win.
I do not need it at all because I am quite satisfied with Linux.The question:Is it easy in EU to get money back for pre-installed Windows we must buy with notebook?I do not agree to pay $400 for thing I do not need at all!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512147</id>
	<title>Re:Not surprising</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246277340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the UK, and with a degree from a prestigious university and only 6 months experience, I earn &pound;2000 a month. After tax it becomes &pound;1465 a month. (And I've chosen a job I like with less pay than one in e.g. finance industry.)</p><p>&pound;2000 = &euro;2355 = $3300</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the UK , and with a degree from a prestigious university and only 6 months experience , I earn   2000 a month .
After tax it becomes   1465 a month .
( And I 've chosen a job I like with less pay than one in e.g .
finance industry .
)   2000 =    2355 = $ 3300</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the UK, and with a degree from a prestigious university and only 6 months experience, I earn £2000 a month.
After tax it becomes £1465 a month.
(And I've chosen a job I like with less pay than one in e.g.
finance industry.
)£2000 = €2355 = $3300</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511581</id>
	<title>Re:Thats what you get for</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246271760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;Europe, get ready to pay back the massive fines microsoft was forced to pay by European legislators. Bend over and take it.</p><p>I don't think so.</p><p>http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/06/28/0344234/The-State-of-Munichs-Ongoing-Linux-Migration</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Europe , get ready to pay back the massive fines microsoft was forced to pay by European legislators .
Bend over and take it.I do n't think so.http : //news.slashdot.org/story/09/06/28/0344234/The-State-of-Munichs-Ongoing-Linux-Migration</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;Europe, get ready to pay back the massive fines microsoft was forced to pay by European legislators.
Bend over and take it.I don't think so.http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/06/28/0344234/The-State-of-Munichs-Ongoing-Linux-Migration</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512069</id>
	<title>cheaper ways</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246276740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a cheaper solution anyway, buy a vista ultimate retail box for 140euros, and since it is done after the 26june, ask for a 'free' seven upgrade on their website.<br>There; full seven version for a low price (will not last too long I guess)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a cheaper solution anyway , buy a vista ultimate retail box for 140euros , and since it is done after the 26june , ask for a 'free ' seven upgrade on their website.There ; full seven version for a low price ( will not last too long I guess )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a cheaper solution anyway, buy a vista ultimate retail box for 140euros, and since it is done after the 26june, ask for a 'free' seven upgrade on their website.There; full seven version for a low price (will not last too long I guess)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512319</id>
	<title>Re:Well, whaddaya know</title>
	<author>Kokuyo</author>
	<datestamp>1246279080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fuck entitlement. I wants it, I gets it. And after I have it I suddenly become knowledgeable enough to install and support it for family, friends and customers.</p><p>And there are no alternatives. The things I want to run do nut run under MacOS and fuck Linux on the desktop, seriously.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fuck entitlement .
I wants it , I gets it .
And after I have it I suddenly become knowledgeable enough to install and support it for family , friends and customers.And there are no alternatives .
The things I want to run do nut run under MacOS and fuck Linux on the desktop , seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fuck entitlement.
I wants it, I gets it.
And after I have it I suddenly become knowledgeable enough to install and support it for family, friends and customers.And there are no alternatives.
The things I want to run do nut run under MacOS and fuck Linux on the desktop, seriously.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28514117</id>
	<title>Re:Not a problem really</title>
	<author>b4dc0d3r</author>
	<datestamp>1246290780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>"I'm lovin' it"</i></p></div> </blockquote><p>Are you sure he wasn't talking about his McDonald's breakfast?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" I 'm lovin ' it " Are you sure he was n't talking about his McDonald 's breakfast ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "I'm lovin' it" Are you sure he wasn't talking about his McDonald's breakfast?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28514333</id>
	<title>Re:Huh?</title>
	<author>Angstroem</author>
	<datestamp>1246291920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, that's not the way it works with the market.</p><p>If US companies enter the European market, they either use the 1US$=1EUR scheme if the EUR is higher, otherwise the price will of course be adjusted. Remember the 1980s when the US$ was skyrocketing to nearly EUR1,80? Even entry-level US electronics like the Commodore C64, Ensoniq synthesizers were priced insanely high.</p><p>The other way round, however, European companies like to match US$ prices, even if that means selling at a loss. Have a look what Volkswagen, Mercedes, BMW, or Porsche cost in the US compared to their EU prices... But also other pricing is weird: in 2003, I bought a Canon S45. Street price in the US: US$330. Street price in Germany: EUR550.  Back then the exchange rate US$:EUR was about 1.20:1.</p><p>Clearly, the Europeans are doing something very wrong, and this is not only overtaxation...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , that 's not the way it works with the market.If US companies enter the European market , they either use the 1US $ = 1EUR scheme if the EUR is higher , otherwise the price will of course be adjusted .
Remember the 1980s when the US $ was skyrocketing to nearly EUR1,80 ?
Even entry-level US electronics like the Commodore C64 , Ensoniq synthesizers were priced insanely high.The other way round , however , European companies like to match US $ prices , even if that means selling at a loss .
Have a look what Volkswagen , Mercedes , BMW , or Porsche cost in the US compared to their EU prices... But also other pricing is weird : in 2003 , I bought a Canon S45 .
Street price in the US : US $ 330 .
Street price in Germany : EUR550 .
Back then the exchange rate US $ : EUR was about 1.20 : 1.Clearly , the Europeans are doing something very wrong , and this is not only overtaxation.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, that's not the way it works with the market.If US companies enter the European market, they either use the 1US$=1EUR scheme if the EUR is higher, otherwise the price will of course be adjusted.
Remember the 1980s when the US$ was skyrocketing to nearly EUR1,80?
Even entry-level US electronics like the Commodore C64, Ensoniq synthesizers were priced insanely high.The other way round, however, European companies like to match US$ prices, even if that means selling at a loss.
Have a look what Volkswagen, Mercedes, BMW, or Porsche cost in the US compared to their EU prices... But also other pricing is weird: in 2003, I bought a Canon S45.
Street price in the US: US$330.
Street price in Germany: EUR550.
Back then the exchange rate US$:EUR was about 1.20:1.Clearly, the Europeans are doing something very wrong, and this is not only overtaxation...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511463</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512041</id>
	<title>Why not buy the US edition?</title>
	<author>JumperCable</author>
	<datestamp>1246276260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>At twice the price, why can't you just purchase a US edition?  They all have the same language packs available.</htmltext>
<tokenext>At twice the price , why ca n't you just purchase a US edition ?
They all have the same language packs available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At twice the price, why can't you just purchase a US edition?
They all have the same language packs available.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512453</id>
	<title>Re:Standard conversion rate is USD=Euro</title>
	<author>binkzz</author>
	<datestamp>1246280340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Usually the conversion rate is 1 USD is 1 Euro. For example, look at the prices for video games. A $60 game consts 60 euros. Even Valve applies this conversion rate in Steam, and Apple for their store. It's extra income for the company. And most customers don't mind that much.</p></div><p>If only that were true. A $60 game doesn't always go for &#226;60 here: sometimes it goes for &#226;70 or even more!<br>
<br>
Does Valve do that? I thought they sometimes lowered their price on certain games due to the difference in currencies. I'll mail them and ask. At least it includes sales tax.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Usually the conversion rate is 1 USD is 1 Euro .
For example , look at the prices for video games .
A $ 60 game consts 60 euros .
Even Valve applies this conversion rate in Steam , and Apple for their store .
It 's extra income for the company .
And most customers do n't mind that much.If only that were true .
A $ 60 game does n't always go for   60 here : sometimes it goes for   70 or even more !
Does Valve do that ?
I thought they sometimes lowered their price on certain games due to the difference in currencies .
I 'll mail them and ask .
At least it includes sales tax .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Usually the conversion rate is 1 USD is 1 Euro.
For example, look at the prices for video games.
A $60 game consts 60 euros.
Even Valve applies this conversion rate in Steam, and Apple for their store.
It's extra income for the company.
And most customers don't mind that much.If only that were true.
A $60 game doesn't always go for â60 here: sometimes it goes for â70 or even more!
Does Valve do that?
I thought they sometimes lowered their price on certain games due to the difference in currencies.
I'll mail them and ask.
At least it includes sales tax.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511623</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511639</id>
	<title>Of course</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246272240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It will be 400$ for Europeans cause somehow they have to pay for the huge fines that EU has charged them.<br>Just like printing it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It will be 400 $ for Europeans cause somehow they have to pay for the huge fines that EU has charged them.Just like printing it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will be 400$ for Europeans cause somehow they have to pay for the huge fines that EU has charged them.Just like printing it!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511625</id>
	<title>Re:So don't buy it....</title>
	<author>ami.one</author>
	<datestamp>1246272120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Finally, Year of Linux on the Desktop is Near ! (for Europe)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Finally , Year of Linux on the Desktop is Near !
( for Europe )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Finally, Year of Linux on the Desktop is Near !
(for Europe)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511555</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28516511</id>
	<title>Can you spell</title>
	<author>De-Jean7777</author>
	<datestamp>1246300800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>RIP OFF!</htmltext>
<tokenext>RIP OFF !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RIP OFF!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512151</id>
	<title>Exchange Rates?</title>
	<author>gringer</author>
	<datestamp>1246277400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, if Exchange rates are the reason for the high price, why don't people purchase the thing without Exchange? It was a silly program anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , if Exchange rates are the reason for the high price , why do n't people purchase the thing without Exchange ?
It was a silly program anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, if Exchange rates are the reason for the high price, why don't people purchase the thing without Exchange?
It was a silly program anyway.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511453</id>
	<title>OEM Prices Please</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246270680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've never ever bought a retail copy of windows.  I've only met one person who actually has.  Stop wasting our time and quote the OEM prices, because thats what everyone buys.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've never ever bought a retail copy of windows .
I 've only met one person who actually has .
Stop wasting our time and quote the OEM prices , because thats what everyone buys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've never ever bought a retail copy of windows.
I've only met one person who actually has.
Stop wasting our time and quote the OEM prices, because thats what everyone buys.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512685</id>
	<title>When I worked in retail a few years back..</title>
	<author>damuhatori</author>
	<datestamp>1246282440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext> I had tons of European customers always buying computer hardware. This was in Orlando, FL and they would go on vacation with their families and buy up everything because it was half the price it was in Europe.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had tons of European customers always buying computer hardware .
This was in Orlando , FL and they would go on vacation with their families and buy up everything because it was half the price it was in Europe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I had tons of European customers always buying computer hardware.
This was in Orlando, FL and they would go on vacation with their families and buy up everything because it was half the price it was in Europe.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512563</id>
	<title>Re:Well, whaddaya know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246281300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uhhh... actually, no.  MS does NOT want anyone leeching their non-beta products from anywhere and running things for free.  If you like Windows 7, buy it at whatever price has been set.  If you cannot afford it, don't buy it.  There are alternative operating systems out there that easily fit your budget and in many respects are even better than Windows.</p><p>I hear Linux is on sale at the moment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uhhh... actually , no .
MS does NOT want anyone leeching their non-beta products from anywhere and running things for free .
If you like Windows 7 , buy it at whatever price has been set .
If you can not afford it , do n't buy it .
There are alternative operating systems out there that easily fit your budget and in many respects are even better than Windows.I hear Linux is on sale at the moment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uhhh... actually, no.
MS does NOT want anyone leeching their non-beta products from anywhere and running things for free.
If you like Windows 7, buy it at whatever price has been set.
If you cannot afford it, don't buy it.
There are alternative operating systems out there that easily fit your budget and in many respects are even better than Windows.I hear Linux is on sale at the moment.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511503</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28516903</id>
	<title>Re:Not a problem really</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1246302240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can you explain it to me?  What CPU features does Vista/7 take advantage of that XP does not?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you explain it to me ?
What CPU features does Vista/7 take advantage of that XP does not ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you explain it to me?
What CPU features does Vista/7 take advantage of that XP does not?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28514669</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28512161</id>
	<title>Even Better: Windows 7 Home Basic (+ Shipping)</title>
	<author>BBCWatcher</author>
	<datestamp>1246277460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why not buy Windows 7 Home Basic from an "emerging market"? At emerging market prices, of course. Or possibly Windows 7 Starter.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not buy Windows 7 Home Basic from an " emerging market " ?
At emerging market prices , of course .
Or possibly Windows 7 Starter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not buy Windows 7 Home Basic from an "emerging market"?
At emerging market prices, of course.
Or possibly Windows 7 Starter.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28511573</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_29_0558229.28516667</id>
	<title>Err, wrong price quoted here?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246301340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"In other words, EU customers will pay twice the $199.99 U.S. price [for Windows 7 Professional]"</p><p>What?  No, the US price is [url=http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Windows-7-Professional/product/B985134B]$300[/url].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" In other words , EU customers will pay twice the $ 199.99 U.S. price [ for Windows 7 Professional ] " What ?
No , the US price is [ url = http : //store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Windows-7-Professional/product/B985134B ] $ 300 [ /url ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"In other words, EU customers will pay twice the $199.99 U.S. price [for Windows 7 Professional]"What?
No, the US price is [url=http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Windows-7-Professional/product/B985134B]$300[/url].</sentencetext>
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