<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_26_2356216</id>
	<title>AT&amp;T's Bad Math Strikes MythBusters' Savage</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1246025100000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:ianwatson@nOspAm.wolf-spoor.org" rel="nofollow">etherlad</a> writes <i>"MythBusters' Adam Savage <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/06/26/mythbuster-adam-savage-leads-twitter-revolt-against-att/?awesm=tcrn.ch\_4kP&amp;utm\_campaign=techcrunch&amp;utm\_content=techcrunch-autopost&amp;utm\_medium=tcrn.ch-twitter&amp;utm\_source=direct-tcrn.ch">got a bill charging him $11,000 for 'a few hours' of Web surfing</a> while in Canada, using his AT&amp;T USB Mercury modem. AT&amp;T gave him a quote on the data rate: '.015 cents, or a penny and a half, per kb.' Looks like AT&amp;T didn't learn from <a href="//science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/09/0625245&amp;tid=228">Verizon's inability to do math</a>. AT&amp;T is also claiming Savage downloaded over 9 GB, which he calls 'frakking impossible.' Savage's huge following on twitter <a href="http://twitter.com/donttrythis">got him a speedy response by AT&amp;T</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>etherlad writes " MythBusters ' Adam Savage got a bill charging him $ 11,000 for 'a few hours ' of Web surfing while in Canada , using his AT&amp;T USB Mercury modem .
AT&amp;T gave him a quote on the data rate : '.015 cents , or a penny and a half , per kb .
' Looks like AT&amp;T did n't learn from Verizon 's inability to do math .
AT&amp;T is also claiming Savage downloaded over 9 GB , which he calls 'frakking impossible .
' Savage 's huge following on twitter got him a speedy response by AT&amp;T .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>etherlad writes "MythBusters' Adam Savage got a bill charging him $11,000 for 'a few hours' of Web surfing while in Canada, using his AT&amp;T USB Mercury modem.
AT&amp;T gave him a quote on the data rate: '.015 cents, or a penny and a half, per kb.
' Looks like AT&amp;T didn't learn from Verizon's inability to do math.
AT&amp;T is also claiming Savage downloaded over 9 GB, which he calls 'frakking impossible.
' Savage's huge following on twitter got him a speedy response by AT&amp;T.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490977</id>
	<title>Its 1.5 cents per KB</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246032240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>AT&amp;T clearly states on their website its $0.015 which translates to 1.5 cents per KB.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/b</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>AT&amp;T clearly states on their website its $ 0.015 which translates to 1.5 cents per KB .
/b</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AT&amp;T clearly states on their website its $0.015 which translates to 1.5 cents per KB.
/b</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28494373</id>
	<title>Re:Soz this mean we get a cellphone special now?</title>
	<author>GoRK</author>
	<datestamp>1246114440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I honestly think this would be a better topic for Penn&amp;Teller Bullshit to cover, particularly text messaging charges.</p><p>I did however dig out my cellphone bill from about 15 years ago. Somehow I don't remember things being as bad as they were because my bills in 1994 dwarfed my bill today.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I honestly think this would be a better topic for Penn&amp;Teller Bullshit to cover , particularly text messaging charges.I did however dig out my cellphone bill from about 15 years ago .
Somehow I do n't remember things being as bad as they were because my bills in 1994 dwarfed my bill today .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I honestly think this would be a better topic for Penn&amp;Teller Bullshit to cover, particularly text messaging charges.I did however dig out my cellphone bill from about 15 years ago.
Somehow I don't remember things being as bad as they were because my bills in 1994 dwarfed my bill today.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490675</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28496499</id>
	<title>Re:Okay, I'll bite...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246132800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it looks like the price is 0.015 cents per Kb, which equals $11000</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it looks like the price is 0.015 cents per Kb , which equals $ 11000</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it looks like the price is 0.015 cents per Kb, which equals $11000</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491229</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491129</id>
	<title>Re:Its 1.5 cents per KB</title>
	<author>FrostDust</author>
	<datestamp>1246034340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>However, that isn't really relevant. If you had instead said, "AT&amp;T clearly stated on Adam Savage's signed contract it's...." then there'd actually something to argue about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>However , that is n't really relevant .
If you had instead said , " AT&amp;T clearly stated on Adam Savage 's signed contract it 's.... " then there 'd actually something to argue about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>However, that isn't really relevant.
If you had instead said, "AT&amp;T clearly stated on Adam Savage's signed contract it's...." then there'd actually something to argue about.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490977</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491811</id>
	<title>Re:Let's not be cynical</title>
	<author>memoryhole</author>
	<datestamp>1246040100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The data carriers MUST stop thinking in kilobytes and start thinking in customers."</p></div><p>Aaaaaah! Get out of my head! You're not allowed to think in me!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... why do I have a sudden urge to buy Lightspeed Briefs?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The data carriers MUST stop thinking in kilobytes and start thinking in customers. " Aaaaaah !
Get out of my head !
You 're not allowed to think in me !
... why do I have a sudden urge to buy Lightspeed Briefs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The data carriers MUST stop thinking in kilobytes and start thinking in customers."Aaaaaah!
Get out of my head!
You're not allowed to think in me!
... why do I have a sudden urge to buy Lightspeed Briefs?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491085</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490743</id>
	<title>Re:Soz this mean we get a cellphone special now?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246029660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A proper myth should have at least some people believing it's true, although the Mythbusters have been kinda loose with that rule.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A proper myth should have at least some people believing it 's true , although the Mythbusters have been kinda loose with that rule .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A proper myth should have at least some people believing it's true, although the Mythbusters have been kinda loose with that rule.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490675</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28494103</id>
	<title>Re:Wireless broadband data charges are insane...</title>
	<author>Cytlid</author>
	<datestamp>1246111920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...for the last time... cell phone data networks != regular internet networks.  Duh.  Cell networks are proprietary crap networks.  If you want freedom, use a wifi voip phone at hotspots and stop sending the wireless carriers your money.  They made a wireless version of the landline, not a wireless version of the internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...for the last time... cell phone data networks ! = regular internet networks .
Duh. Cell networks are proprietary crap networks .
If you want freedom , use a wifi voip phone at hotspots and stop sending the wireless carriers your money .
They made a wireless version of the landline , not a wireless version of the internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...for the last time... cell phone data networks != regular internet networks.
Duh.  Cell networks are proprietary crap networks.
If you want freedom, use a wifi voip phone at hotspots and stop sending the wireless carriers your money.
They made a wireless version of the landline, not a wireless version of the internet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28492765</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28494217</id>
	<title>Re:A Billing System Deficiency</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246113120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's never the customers fault? Grow up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's never the customers fault ?
Grow up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's never the customers fault?
Grow up.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491373</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491131</id>
	<title>Re:Iran and AT&amp;T vs. Twitter</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246034400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Twitter is naught but the horn by which the crowd hears itself.</p><p>AT&amp;T and Iran are being faced with that most awesome and powerful of forces: human beings.  Acting in concert.  Each of their own free will.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)  Democracy rules.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Twitter is naught but the horn by which the crowd hears itself.AT&amp;T and Iran are being faced with that most awesome and powerful of forces : human beings .
Acting in concert .
Each of their own free will .
: ) Democracy rules .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Twitter is naught but the horn by which the crowd hears itself.AT&amp;T and Iran are being faced with that most awesome and powerful of forces: human beings.
Acting in concert.
Each of their own free will.
:)  Democracy rules.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490951</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491223</id>
	<title>Karma's great, isn't it?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246035720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I can't believe no on Slashdot has pointed out that [...]</p></div></blockquote><p>I can't believe you stooped so low as to point this out an hour after the discussion was opened in a thread near to the top, when several contributions before yours in fact did point it out.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't believe no on Slashdot has pointed out that [ ... ] I ca n't believe you stooped so low as to point this out an hour after the discussion was opened in a thread near to the top , when several contributions before yours in fact did point it out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't believe no on Slashdot has pointed out that [...]I can't believe you stooped so low as to point this out an hour after the discussion was opened in a thread near to the top, when several contributions before yours in fact did point it out.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491009</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490783</id>
	<title>Re:Lucky for them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246029960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What? They're going to fling their remotes?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What ?
They 're going to fling their remotes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What?
They're going to fling their remotes?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490691</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490733</id>
	<title>Customer service?</title>
	<author>RealGrouchy</author>
	<datestamp>1246029600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FTA:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>[AT&amp;T] hasn't exactly been garnering positive reactions from its legions of Twitter-using members.</p></div><p>I'd say. If their customer service is anything like cell phone companies up here, it probably takes more than 140 characters to navigate their phone tree to talk to a human!</p><p>- RG&gt;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>FTA : [ AT&amp;T ] has n't exactly been garnering positive reactions from its legions of Twitter-using members.I 'd say .
If their customer service is anything like cell phone companies up here , it probably takes more than 140 characters to navigate their phone tree to talk to a human ! - RG &gt;</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FTA:[AT&amp;T] hasn't exactly been garnering positive reactions from its legions of Twitter-using members.I'd say.
If their customer service is anything like cell phone companies up here, it probably takes more than 140 characters to navigate their phone tree to talk to a human!- RG&gt;
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28500071</id>
	<title>Re:Iran and AT&amp;T vs. Twitter</title>
	<author>Phroggy</author>
	<datestamp>1246116000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/14/2017246" title="slashdot.org">It's not just Iran.</a> [slashdot.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not just Iran .
[ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not just Iran.
[slashdot.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490951</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28494529</id>
	<title>Re:He should'a known...</title>
	<author>Galois2</author>
	<datestamp>1246115760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The story makes it seem that the math is bad, but it's not.  True, the rep apparently mistated 0.015 cents as 1.5 cents, but the $11K results from the LOWER 0.015 cents number:

9x10^6 KB * 8 bits/byte * 0.015 cents/kbit * $1/100 cents = $10,800.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The story makes it seem that the math is bad , but it 's not .
True , the rep apparently mistated 0.015 cents as 1.5 cents , but the $ 11K results from the LOWER 0.015 cents number : 9x10 ^ 6 KB * 8 bits/byte * 0.015 cents/kbit * $ 1/100 cents = $ 10,800 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The story makes it seem that the math is bad, but it's not.
True, the rep apparently mistated 0.015 cents as 1.5 cents, but the $11K results from the LOWER 0.015 cents number:

9x10^6 KB * 8 bits/byte * 0.015 cents/kbit * $1/100 cents = $10,800.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490687</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491135</id>
	<title>Re:Let's not be cynical</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246034460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmmm, not the way it worked for us when AT&amp;T charged us $1500 for calls on a stolen phone (sim stolen in another country where it was used at 1.99/min roaming for about 15 days before the theft was discovered).  They eventually refunded part of the bill, still left us with a big chunk.  So I think being famous helped him a bit.</p><p>Needless to say, their retention department is not going to be successful with me.</p><p>Oh, and they weren't responsive at all before they figured out I actually have the phone plan through a company discount, so it's handled by the business customer services.  Normal consumer customer service couldn't have cared less.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm , not the way it worked for us when AT&amp;T charged us $ 1500 for calls on a stolen phone ( sim stolen in another country where it was used at 1.99/min roaming for about 15 days before the theft was discovered ) .
They eventually refunded part of the bill , still left us with a big chunk .
So I think being famous helped him a bit.Needless to say , their retention department is not going to be successful with me.Oh , and they were n't responsive at all before they figured out I actually have the phone plan through a company discount , so it 's handled by the business customer services .
Normal consumer customer service could n't have cared less .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm, not the way it worked for us when AT&amp;T charged us $1500 for calls on a stolen phone (sim stolen in another country where it was used at 1.99/min roaming for about 15 days before the theft was discovered).
They eventually refunded part of the bill, still left us with a big chunk.
So I think being famous helped him a bit.Needless to say, their retention department is not going to be successful with me.Oh, and they weren't responsive at all before they figured out I actually have the phone plan through a company discount, so it's handled by the business customer services.
Normal consumer customer service couldn't have cared less.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490727</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491121</id>
	<title>If only...</title>
	<author>SEWilco</author>
	<datestamp>1246034280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If only there was someone who investigated whether what people believe is true or not.  Someone should look into these kinds of odd events and see if they're possible or not.

Incidentally, how big are those Canadian dollars?</htmltext>
<tokenext>If only there was someone who investigated whether what people believe is true or not .
Someone should look into these kinds of odd events and see if they 're possible or not .
Incidentally , how big are those Canadian dollars ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If only there was someone who investigated whether what people believe is true or not.
Someone should look into these kinds of odd events and see if they're possible or not.
Incidentally, how big are those Canadian dollars?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490687</id>
	<title>He should'a known...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246029000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>".015 cents, or a penny and a half"</p><p>Let me guess... whichever is larger?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" .015 cents , or a penny and a half " Let me guess... whichever is larger ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>".015 cents, or a penny and a half"Let me guess... whichever is larger?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491259</id>
	<title>Re:He should'a known...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246036260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I can't believe no on Slashdot has pointed out that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.015 cents != a penny and a half<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.015 dollars = a penny and a half.</p></div><p>No one pointed out the mistake because a) it is mentioned in the summary ("Looks like AT&amp;T didn't learn from Verizon's inability to do math") and b) everyone here knows how to do elementary school arithmetic, so no one felt the need to point out the obvious.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't believe no on Slashdot has pointed out that .015 cents ! = a penny and a half .015 dollars = a penny and a half.No one pointed out the mistake because a ) it is mentioned in the summary ( " Looks like AT&amp;T did n't learn from Verizon 's inability to do math " ) and b ) everyone here knows how to do elementary school arithmetic , so no one felt the need to point out the obvious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't believe no on Slashdot has pointed out that .015 cents != a penny and a half .015 dollars = a penny and a half.No one pointed out the mistake because a) it is mentioned in the summary ("Looks like AT&amp;T didn't learn from Verizon's inability to do math") and b) everyone here knows how to do elementary school arithmetic, so no one felt the need to point out the obvious.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491009</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490785</id>
	<title>Re:Celebrity status?</title>
	<author>Binestar</author>
	<datestamp>1246030020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, he's got 55,000 and growing followers on twitter.  In the last 7 hours he's sent out a dozen or so tweets.  To 55,000 people.  25 cents (.25 dollars) per text == AT&amp;T making a lot of money off Adam's outrage.</p><p>He just got commision =)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , he 's got 55,000 and growing followers on twitter .
In the last 7 hours he 's sent out a dozen or so tweets .
To 55,000 people .
25 cents ( .25 dollars ) per text = = AT&amp;T making a lot of money off Adam 's outrage.He just got commision = )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, he's got 55,000 and growing followers on twitter.
In the last 7 hours he's sent out a dozen or so tweets.
To 55,000 people.
25 cents (.25 dollars) per text == AT&amp;T making a lot of money off Adam's outrage.He just got commision =)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490715</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491101</id>
	<title>Re:He should'a known...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246033980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I knew that... geez. Do I really have to explain the joke? Whenever there's two options, it's always whichever one is better for <em>them</em>... sort of like the 20,000 mile / 10 year warranty: whichever comes sooner.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I knew that... geez. Do I really have to explain the joke ?
Whenever there 's two options , it 's always whichever one is better for them... sort of like the 20,000 mile / 10 year warranty : whichever comes sooner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I knew that... geez. Do I really have to explain the joke?
Whenever there's two options, it's always whichever one is better for them... sort of like the 20,000 mile / 10 year warranty: whichever comes sooner.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491009</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491137</id>
	<title>AT&amp;T Date Card Charges</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246034520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone who does not check on this issue before travelling to another country deserves shock treatment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone who does not check on this issue before travelling to another country deserves shock treatment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone who does not check on this issue before travelling to another country deserves shock treatment.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28492765</id>
	<title>Wireless broadband data charges are insane...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246093620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone else think it's bordering on insanity the charges they want to levy against people for wireless data transfers? (Text messages is a whole other topic...) Even the new download caps some cable ISPs are setting for home broadband are still at least 100GB for a connection you spend ~$50 for. Why is it worth thousands of dollars to send a GB of data when a normal phone conversation is going to take up far more network bandwidth...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone else think it 's bordering on insanity the charges they want to levy against people for wireless data transfers ?
( Text messages is a whole other topic... ) Even the new download caps some cable ISPs are setting for home broadband are still at least 100GB for a connection you spend ~ $ 50 for .
Why is it worth thousands of dollars to send a GB of data when a normal phone conversation is going to take up far more network bandwidth.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone else think it's bordering on insanity the charges they want to levy against people for wireless data transfers?
(Text messages is a whole other topic...) Even the new download caps some cable ISPs are setting for home broadband are still at least 100GB for a connection you spend ~$50 for.
Why is it worth thousands of dollars to send a GB of data when a normal phone conversation is going to take up far more network bandwidth...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490729</id>
	<title>Verizon?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246029540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, *THERE'S* your problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , * THERE 'S * your problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, *THERE'S* your problem.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490765</id>
	<title>these insane usage charges</title>
	<author>arbiter1</author>
	<datestamp>1246029840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>anyone else think those companies are crooks for charging per kilobyte like that is complete bull s(*@# ?  just loading a damn web page like cnn.com is almost 1MB so that would be 1$</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>anyone else think those companies are crooks for charging per kilobyte like that is complete bull s ( * @ # ?
just loading a damn web page like cnn.com is almost 1MB so that would be 1 $</tokentext>
<sentencetext>anyone else think those companies are crooks for charging per kilobyte like that is complete bull s(*@# ?
just loading a damn web page like cnn.com is almost 1MB so that would be 1$</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491177</id>
	<title>Is this really "only" a problem with a huge bill</title>
	<author>failedlogic</author>
	<datestamp>1246035240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This stuff always makes the headlines when the bill amounts to 1,000's of dollars. The real problem is that there are probably a constant stream of people being billed $5, $20, maybe $50 for the usage. When they pass it off and just pay it, then the company lines its pockets with easy money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This stuff always makes the headlines when the bill amounts to 1,000 's of dollars .
The real problem is that there are probably a constant stream of people being billed $ 5 , $ 20 , maybe $ 50 for the usage .
When they pass it off and just pay it , then the company lines its pockets with easy money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This stuff always makes the headlines when the bill amounts to 1,000's of dollars.
The real problem is that there are probably a constant stream of people being billed $5, $20, maybe $50 for the usage.
When they pass it off and just pay it, then the company lines its pockets with easy money.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491373</id>
	<title>A Billing System Deficiency</title>
	<author>carlzum</author>
	<datestamp>1246037160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>No one should be held liable for outrageous bills like this. AT&amp;T failed to put reasonable controls in their billing system so customers are alerted when there's an obvious technical error, unauthorized use, or a simple mistake. American Express says my credit line is unlimited, but if I try to spend $100k they will decline the purchase and contact me. If I had a history of paying $100k bills they may allow it. But AT&amp;T allows an account that's never exceeded a few hundred dollars reach $11,000. We all know why, unlike American Express, AT&amp;T doesn't incur $11,000 in expenses so they don't bother doing anything about it.
<br> <br>
It doesn't make any sense to me. Most people are unable to pay the bill, and anyone that can afford it has the resources to fight them. Either way, it generates a lot of bad PR and very little revenue. I'm surprised Apple hasn't put more pressure on them, these stories are frequently reported as "man receives $10,000 iPhone bill."</htmltext>
<tokenext>No one should be held liable for outrageous bills like this .
AT&amp;T failed to put reasonable controls in their billing system so customers are alerted when there 's an obvious technical error , unauthorized use , or a simple mistake .
American Express says my credit line is unlimited , but if I try to spend $ 100k they will decline the purchase and contact me .
If I had a history of paying $ 100k bills they may allow it .
But AT&amp;T allows an account that 's never exceeded a few hundred dollars reach $ 11,000 .
We all know why , unlike American Express , AT&amp;T does n't incur $ 11,000 in expenses so they do n't bother doing anything about it .
It does n't make any sense to me .
Most people are unable to pay the bill , and anyone that can afford it has the resources to fight them .
Either way , it generates a lot of bad PR and very little revenue .
I 'm surprised Apple has n't put more pressure on them , these stories are frequently reported as " man receives $ 10,000 iPhone bill .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No one should be held liable for outrageous bills like this.
AT&amp;T failed to put reasonable controls in their billing system so customers are alerted when there's an obvious technical error, unauthorized use, or a simple mistake.
American Express says my credit line is unlimited, but if I try to spend $100k they will decline the purchase and contact me.
If I had a history of paying $100k bills they may allow it.
But AT&amp;T allows an account that's never exceeded a few hundred dollars reach $11,000.
We all know why, unlike American Express, AT&amp;T doesn't incur $11,000 in expenses so they don't bother doing anything about it.
It doesn't make any sense to me.
Most people are unable to pay the bill, and anyone that can afford it has the resources to fight them.
Either way, it generates a lot of bad PR and very little revenue.
I'm surprised Apple hasn't put more pressure on them, these stories are frequently reported as "man receives $10,000 iPhone bill.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491095</id>
	<title>Re:these insane usage charges</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246033920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's nothing wrong with charging per kilobyte.  What they should do is *only* charge per kilobyte, and not differentiate between "voice", "local calls", "tethered data", "text messaging", etc.  It's absurd that it's cheaper to acoustically-couple a 300-baud modem to your cell phone for 5 minutes than it is to transfer the equivalent amount of data over text messaging, despite the massive overhead of the audio traffic.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's nothing wrong with charging per kilobyte .
What they should do is * only * charge per kilobyte , and not differentiate between " voice " , " local calls " , " tethered data " , " text messaging " , etc .
It 's absurd that it 's cheaper to acoustically-couple a 300-baud modem to your cell phone for 5 minutes than it is to transfer the equivalent amount of data over text messaging , despite the massive overhead of the audio traffic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's nothing wrong with charging per kilobyte.
What they should do is *only* charge per kilobyte, and not differentiate between "voice", "local calls", "tethered data", "text messaging", etc.
It's absurd that it's cheaper to acoustically-couple a 300-baud modem to your cell phone for 5 minutes than it is to transfer the equivalent amount of data over text messaging, despite the massive overhead of the audio traffic.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490765</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28492559</id>
	<title>A little tip:</title>
	<author>Anyd</author>
	<datestamp>1246134120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When you're stuck in an automated system just scream obscenities... I swear it works like 70\% of the time.  I think the voice recognition software has been programmed to pick up on that.  My old boss taught me this trick, and it was a little unnerving the first time I heard him going to town on the computer voice at the other end of the line, but it really works!  Just don't do it in public...</htmltext>
<tokenext>When you 're stuck in an automated system just scream obscenities... I swear it works like 70 \ % of the time .
I think the voice recognition software has been programmed to pick up on that .
My old boss taught me this trick , and it was a little unnerving the first time I heard him going to town on the computer voice at the other end of the line , but it really works !
Just do n't do it in public.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you're stuck in an automated system just scream obscenities... I swear it works like 70\% of the time.
I think the voice recognition software has been programmed to pick up on that.
My old boss taught me this trick, and it was a little unnerving the first time I heard him going to town on the computer voice at the other end of the line, but it really works!
Just don't do it in public...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490733</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491199</id>
	<title>Re:He should'a known...</title>
	<author>davester666</author>
	<datestamp>1246035540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and packet sizes are rounded up to the next higher K...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and packet sizes are rounded up to the next higher K.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and packet sizes are rounded up to the next higher K...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490687</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28505373</id>
	<title>Re:why is it so expensive anyway?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246214880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unlimited data from AT&amp;T is $15 a month. I think the problem is that he went to Canada.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unlimited data from AT&amp;T is $ 15 a month .
I think the problem is that he went to Canada .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unlimited data from AT&amp;T is $15 a month.
I think the problem is that he went to Canada.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28492893</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490859</id>
	<title>Re:from the people who brought you this commercial</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246030920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and <a href="http://i38.tinypic.com/3344qs7.jpg" title="tinypic.com" rel="nofollow">this</a> [tinypic.com] is what I think of her math skillz</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and this [ tinypic.com ] is what I think of her math skillz</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and this [tinypic.com] is what I think of her math skillz</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490701</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28494197</id>
	<title>Re:Only in the US...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246112940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is a bandwith cap - depending on the plan it is either at 5 or 10 GB / month. But they don't turn you off, just downgrade the line so it pretends to be a normal modem line. I can live with that - Sweden rocks!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a bandwith cap - depending on the plan it is either at 5 or 10 GB / month .
But they do n't turn you off , just downgrade the line so it pretends to be a normal modem line .
I can live with that - Sweden rocks !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a bandwith cap - depending on the plan it is either at 5 or 10 GB / month.
But they don't turn you off, just downgrade the line so it pretends to be a normal modem line.
I can live with that - Sweden rocks!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493207</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491571</id>
	<title>Re:these insane usage charges</title>
	<author>compro01</author>
	<datestamp>1246038240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1944" title="mozilla.org">This might be what you're looking for</a> [mozilla.org].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This might be what you 're looking for [ mozilla.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This might be what you're looking for [mozilla.org].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491151</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493101</id>
	<title>Re:A Billing System Deficiency</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246097340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget Apple is getting a share of the air minutes...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget Apple is getting a share of the air minutes.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget Apple is getting a share of the air minutes...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491373</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28494463</id>
	<title>More regulation on abusive practices is needed</title>
	<author>DJRumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1246115220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm really hoping this swing back towards more regulation will put a stop to these kinds of abuses. They are obviously far out of line with real world costs and every provider is in collusion. The same goes for text messaging 'costs', which cost magnitudes less than a phone call to transmit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm really hoping this swing back towards more regulation will put a stop to these kinds of abuses .
They are obviously far out of line with real world costs and every provider is in collusion .
The same goes for text messaging 'costs ' , which cost magnitudes less than a phone call to transmit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm really hoping this swing back towards more regulation will put a stop to these kinds of abuses.
They are obviously far out of line with real world costs and every provider is in collusion.
The same goes for text messaging 'costs', which cost magnitudes less than a phone call to transmit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490675</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28500341</id>
	<title>Re:Celebrity status?</title>
	<author>cgenman</author>
	<datestamp>1246118520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It gets worse.  Cell phone users used to get charged extra to *recieve* long distance calls.  Of course, landlines were paying the full cost of getting that call across the country to wherever you were.  But you were being charged for... something... somewhere... too.</p><p>There may be legitimate reasons why certain parts of cellular plans are the way they are.  But a lot of the other parts are simply abuse.  The companies have burned through all of the goodwill they might have at one point had.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It gets worse .
Cell phone users used to get charged extra to * recieve * long distance calls .
Of course , landlines were paying the full cost of getting that call across the country to wherever you were .
But you were being charged for... something... somewhere... too.There may be legitimate reasons why certain parts of cellular plans are the way they are .
But a lot of the other parts are simply abuse .
The companies have burned through all of the goodwill they might have at one point had .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It gets worse.
Cell phone users used to get charged extra to *recieve* long distance calls.
Of course, landlines were paying the full cost of getting that call across the country to wherever you were.
But you were being charged for... something... somewhere... too.There may be legitimate reasons why certain parts of cellular plans are the way they are.
But a lot of the other parts are simply abuse.
The companies have burned through all of the goodwill they might have at one point had.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493067</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28496081</id>
	<title>Re:A Billing System Deficiency</title>
	<author>TheQuantumShift</author>
	<datestamp>1246129320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree, updates when your bill doubles last months total would be nice, but the real problem would be with cust. service reps who say one thing when it's actually another. Some might see an all too convenient oversight that benefits giant megacorp, I just see a bored 20 something single mother working the callcenter grind who couldn't define the word kilobyte with a gun to her head. She just reads the stuff shes supposed to read, and what does it matter when she says kilobit or kilobyte? Same thing right? One's just the british spelling...
<br> <br>
Now if AT&amp;T invested in it's employees and ensured they were trained, this kind of stuff wouldn't happen so much. But since outsourcing is the answer to everything (except management of course) it'll always be a battle of carrier said, outsourced call center said, customer said.
<br> <br>
And of course they should stop with the per-anything billing. Limit the data speed enough so I can still browse, but torrenting an<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.iso is out of the question. Charge a flat rate, and don't nickel and dime.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree , updates when your bill doubles last months total would be nice , but the real problem would be with cust .
service reps who say one thing when it 's actually another .
Some might see an all too convenient oversight that benefits giant megacorp , I just see a bored 20 something single mother working the callcenter grind who could n't define the word kilobyte with a gun to her head .
She just reads the stuff shes supposed to read , and what does it matter when she says kilobit or kilobyte ?
Same thing right ?
One 's just the british spelling.. . Now if AT&amp;T invested in it 's employees and ensured they were trained , this kind of stuff would n't happen so much .
But since outsourcing is the answer to everything ( except management of course ) it 'll always be a battle of carrier said , outsourced call center said , customer said .
And of course they should stop with the per-anything billing .
Limit the data speed enough so I can still browse , but torrenting an .iso is out of the question .
Charge a flat rate , and do n't nickel and dime .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree, updates when your bill doubles last months total would be nice, but the real problem would be with cust.
service reps who say one thing when it's actually another.
Some might see an all too convenient oversight that benefits giant megacorp, I just see a bored 20 something single mother working the callcenter grind who couldn't define the word kilobyte with a gun to her head.
She just reads the stuff shes supposed to read, and what does it matter when she says kilobit or kilobyte?
Same thing right?
One's just the british spelling...
 
Now if AT&amp;T invested in it's employees and ensured they were trained, this kind of stuff wouldn't happen so much.
But since outsourcing is the answer to everything (except management of course) it'll always be a battle of carrier said, outsourced call center said, customer said.
And of course they should stop with the per-anything billing.
Limit the data speed enough so I can still browse, but torrenting an .iso is out of the question.
Charge a flat rate, and don't nickel and dime.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491373</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493959</id>
	<title>Re:Celebrity status?</title>
	<author>rawler</author>
	<datestamp>1246110240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, that gives me an idea. Couldn't anyone write a modification to adblock that does this automatically? Basically, you enter a whitelist of companies you want to punish, and whenever adblock sees what looks like one of their ads, it simulates a click in the background, that you're not forced to see?</p><p>Encourage a few users to install, and it would start getting noticable.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) While I truly believe ads as such are good for the web as a whole, some ads and ad-driven sites (especially all things Flash) should be punished for ruining my user-experience with blinking crap getting all in the way all the time, even sometimes intentionally trying to trick the user into clicking the wrong links.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , that gives me an idea .
Could n't anyone write a modification to adblock that does this automatically ?
Basically , you enter a whitelist of companies you want to punish , and whenever adblock sees what looks like one of their ads , it simulates a click in the background , that you 're not forced to see ? Encourage a few users to install , and it would start getting noticable .
: ) While I truly believe ads as such are good for the web as a whole , some ads and ad-driven sites ( especially all things Flash ) should be punished for ruining my user-experience with blinking crap getting all in the way all the time , even sometimes intentionally trying to trick the user into clicking the wrong links .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, that gives me an idea.
Couldn't anyone write a modification to adblock that does this automatically?
Basically, you enter a whitelist of companies you want to punish, and whenever adblock sees what looks like one of their ads, it simulates a click in the background, that you're not forced to see?Encourage a few users to install, and it would start getting noticable.
:) While I truly believe ads as such are good for the web as a whole, some ads and ad-driven sites (especially all things Flash) should be punished for ruining my user-experience with blinking crap getting all in the way all the time, even sometimes intentionally trying to trick the user into clicking the wrong links.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490715</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28495749</id>
	<title>Re:Okay, I'll bite...</title>
	<author>Atticka</author>
	<datestamp>1246126080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its $0.015 per Kb, not KB.</p><p>So.....take your:<br>".015 cents": 9,437,184 KB * $0.00015 = $1,415.5776</p><p>And multiply by eight:</p><p>$1,415.5776 * 8 = $11324.6208</p><p>Also, I know from dealing with Fido (aka: Rogers) that they calculate data on base 10 instead of base 8 (1Mb = 1000Kb).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its $ 0.015 per Kb , not KB.So.....take your : " .015 cents " : 9,437,184 KB * $ 0.00015 = $ 1,415.5776And multiply by eight : $ 1,415.5776 * 8 = $ 11324.6208Also , I know from dealing with Fido ( aka : Rogers ) that they calculate data on base 10 instead of base 8 ( 1Mb = 1000Kb ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its $0.015 per Kb, not KB.So.....take your:".015 cents": 9,437,184 KB * $0.00015 = $1,415.5776And multiply by eight:$1,415.5776 * 8 = $11324.6208Also, I know from dealing with Fido (aka: Rogers) that they calculate data on base 10 instead of base 8 (1Mb = 1000Kb).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491229</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490901</id>
	<title>Re:these insane usage charges</title>
	<author>terraformer</author>
	<datestamp>1246031520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A $1???? Try $15.68 per MB. I just got back from Toronto and upon arrival, I got a text message stating that as the rate for data if I used it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A $ 1 ? ? ? ?
Try $ 15.68 per MB .
I just got back from Toronto and upon arrival , I got a text message stating that as the rate for data if I used it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A $1????
Try $15.68 per MB.
I just got back from Toronto and upon arrival, I got a text message stating that as the rate for data if I used it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490765</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491147</id>
	<title>Re:Its 1.5 cents per KB</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246034700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're the best!</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're the best !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're the best!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491229</id>
	<title>Okay, I'll bite...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246035840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>9GB of data is 9,437,184 KB. The numbers don't add up.
<br> <br>
".015 cents": 9,437,184 KB * $0.00015 = $1,415.5776
<br>
"a penny and a half": 9,437,184 KB * $0.015 = $141,557.76
<br> <br>
Since the published data roaming rate in Canada is $0.015/KB, let's go with "a penny and a half".
<br> <br>
$11,000 of usage at $0.015/KB equals 733,333.33333333...KB or 716.145833MB.
<br> <br>
So not only do they not know the difference between a cent and a dollar, but their system for measuring data transfer is also off by a factor of ~12.87... unless they somehow billed him for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.015 cents and then tacked on 10k in fees...</htmltext>
<tokenext>9GB of data is 9,437,184 KB .
The numbers do n't add up .
" .015 cents " : 9,437,184 KB * $ 0.00015 = $ 1,415.5776 " a penny and a half " : 9,437,184 KB * $ 0.015 = $ 141,557.76 Since the published data roaming rate in Canada is $ 0.015/KB , let 's go with " a penny and a half " .
$ 11,000 of usage at $ 0.015/KB equals 733,333.33333333...KB or 716.145833MB .
So not only do they not know the difference between a cent and a dollar , but their system for measuring data transfer is also off by a factor of ~ 12.87... unless they somehow billed him for .015 cents and then tacked on 10k in fees.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>9GB of data is 9,437,184 KB.
The numbers don't add up.
".015 cents": 9,437,184 KB * $0.00015 = $1,415.5776

"a penny and a half": 9,437,184 KB * $0.015 = $141,557.76
 
Since the published data roaming rate in Canada is $0.015/KB, let's go with "a penny and a half".
$11,000 of usage at $0.015/KB equals 733,333.33333333...KB or 716.145833MB.
So not only do they not know the difference between a cent and a dollar, but their system for measuring data transfer is also off by a factor of ~12.87... unless they somehow billed him for .015 cents and then tacked on 10k in fees...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491045</id>
	<title>CHANGE? LOL, it's all Obama's gonna leave you with</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246033140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was only a few months ago that you all were stumbling all over each otehr to suck Obama's dick!  And now he and the Democrats in Congress are going to slap you with the biggest tax in American history!  LOL, remember when he said that your taxes wouldn't go up one cent if you made under $250k?  Or was it $200k?  No, then it was $150k...  OMG ROTFLMAO OMFG!!!!  Fuck you all!!!  You wanted your change, now shut up and fucking deal with your decision you pussies!  LOL!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was only a few months ago that you all were stumbling all over each otehr to suck Obama 's dick !
And now he and the Democrats in Congress are going to slap you with the biggest tax in American history !
LOL , remember when he said that your taxes would n't go up one cent if you made under $ 250k ?
Or was it $ 200k ?
No , then it was $ 150k... OMG ROTFLMAO OMFG ! ! ! !
Fuck you all ! ! !
You wanted your change , now shut up and fucking deal with your decision you pussies !
LOL ! ! !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was only a few months ago that you all were stumbling all over each otehr to suck Obama's dick!
And now he and the Democrats in Congress are going to slap you with the biggest tax in American history!
LOL, remember when he said that your taxes wouldn't go up one cent if you made under $250k?
Or was it $200k?
No, then it was $150k...  OMG ROTFLMAO OMFG!!!!
Fuck you all!!!
You wanted your change, now shut up and fucking deal with your decision you pussies!
LOL!!!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490675</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490951</id>
	<title>Iran and AT&amp;T  vs. Twitter</title>
	<author>corbettw</author>
	<datestamp>1246032000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Two of the most powerful entities in the world are humbled by Twitter. Be afraid, be very, very afraid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Two of the most powerful entities in the world are humbled by Twitter .
Be afraid , be very , very afraid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two of the most powerful entities in the world are humbled by Twitter.
Be afraid, be very, very afraid.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28495789</id>
	<title>Re:Celebrity status?</title>
	<author>grotgrot</author>
	<datestamp>1246126380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Being charged to receive cell calls makes sense.  In other countries such as the UK calling a cell phone costs the caller more than calling a landline.  How do you know which you called?  Cell phones have their own area code.  In the US there are no area codes for cell phones so there is no way for a caller to know.  Conceptually the call goes to the regular area code and then has to be transmitted by radio to your phone and the latter bit is why you are charged for incoming and outgoing calls.  Of course it doesn't work like that under the hood any more but it used to in the begining.  Either way someone is paying extra for the cell phone call cost.</p><p>Some countries don't have this system but they aren't comparable to the US.  All of the UK, NI and various islands fit in 2/3 of California.  Germany is the same size as Montana.  The scale is very different.</p><p>SMS receiving used to be free.  The reason for the charges is because of a corrupt market.  The carriers have a cartel.  They fought very hard against number portability.  There are two different radio systems, and even the one used by the rest of the world (GSM) is on different frequencies.  Phones are sold cheap but lock you into a two year contract and you are unlikely to be able to use a phone between carriers even if it is unlocked.  All this minimizes the ability of consumers to change carriers.  The cartel players also by some miraculous coincidence charge exactly the same for SMS.  Whenever one raises the price, they all do.</p><p>A secondary issue is that voice is charged too cheaply since that is what the headline number looked at by consumers is. Consequently the carriers make up for it by nickel and diming on every single other thing they can, including SMS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Being charged to receive cell calls makes sense .
In other countries such as the UK calling a cell phone costs the caller more than calling a landline .
How do you know which you called ?
Cell phones have their own area code .
In the US there are no area codes for cell phones so there is no way for a caller to know .
Conceptually the call goes to the regular area code and then has to be transmitted by radio to your phone and the latter bit is why you are charged for incoming and outgoing calls .
Of course it does n't work like that under the hood any more but it used to in the begining .
Either way someone is paying extra for the cell phone call cost.Some countries do n't have this system but they are n't comparable to the US .
All of the UK , NI and various islands fit in 2/3 of California .
Germany is the same size as Montana .
The scale is very different.SMS receiving used to be free .
The reason for the charges is because of a corrupt market .
The carriers have a cartel .
They fought very hard against number portability .
There are two different radio systems , and even the one used by the rest of the world ( GSM ) is on different frequencies .
Phones are sold cheap but lock you into a two year contract and you are unlikely to be able to use a phone between carriers even if it is unlocked .
All this minimizes the ability of consumers to change carriers .
The cartel players also by some miraculous coincidence charge exactly the same for SMS .
Whenever one raises the price , they all do.A secondary issue is that voice is charged too cheaply since that is what the headline number looked at by consumers is .
Consequently the carriers make up for it by nickel and diming on every single other thing they can , including SMS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being charged to receive cell calls makes sense.
In other countries such as the UK calling a cell phone costs the caller more than calling a landline.
How do you know which you called?
Cell phones have their own area code.
In the US there are no area codes for cell phones so there is no way for a caller to know.
Conceptually the call goes to the regular area code and then has to be transmitted by radio to your phone and the latter bit is why you are charged for incoming and outgoing calls.
Of course it doesn't work like that under the hood any more but it used to in the begining.
Either way someone is paying extra for the cell phone call cost.Some countries don't have this system but they aren't comparable to the US.
All of the UK, NI and various islands fit in 2/3 of California.
Germany is the same size as Montana.
The scale is very different.SMS receiving used to be free.
The reason for the charges is because of a corrupt market.
The carriers have a cartel.
They fought very hard against number portability.
There are two different radio systems, and even the one used by the rest of the world (GSM) is on different frequencies.
Phones are sold cheap but lock you into a two year contract and you are unlikely to be able to use a phone between carriers even if it is unlocked.
All this minimizes the ability of consumers to change carriers.
The cartel players also by some miraculous coincidence charge exactly the same for SMS.
Whenever one raises the price, they all do.A secondary issue is that voice is charged too cheaply since that is what the headline number looked at by consumers is.
Consequently the carriers make up for it by nickel and diming on every single other thing they can, including SMS.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493067</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490727</id>
	<title>Let's not be cynical</title>
	<author>unlametheweak</author>
	<datestamp>1246029480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Savage's huge following on twitter got him a speedy response by AT&amp;T."</p></div><p>I'm sure the response would have been just as fast if he wasn't famous and wasn't using Twitter. These large companies have professional Human Resource departments to make sure that the customer service experience is good.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Savage 's huge following on twitter got him a speedy response by AT&amp;T .
" I 'm sure the response would have been just as fast if he was n't famous and was n't using Twitter .
These large companies have professional Human Resource departments to make sure that the customer service experience is good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Savage's huge following on twitter got him a speedy response by AT&amp;T.
"I'm sure the response would have been just as fast if he wasn't famous and wasn't using Twitter.
These large companies have professional Human Resource departments to make sure that the customer service experience is good.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28492507</id>
	<title>Re:these insane usage charges</title>
	<author>Vegeta99</author>
	<datestamp>1246133460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Try off the continent. I was in Spain where not a spot wasn't UMTS/'3G'.... but I was expected to pay $25.95/MB there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Try off the continent .
I was in Spain where not a spot was n't UMTS/'3G'.... but I was expected to pay $ 25.95/MB there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try off the continent.
I was in Spain where not a spot wasn't UMTS/'3G'.... but I was expected to pay $25.95/MB there.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490901</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28494015</id>
	<title>Re:Let's not be cynical</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246111020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>These large companies have professional Human Resource departments to make sure that the customer service experience <b>appears to be</b> good</i></p><p>There fixed that for you</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These large companies have professional Human Resource departments to make sure that the customer service experience appears to be goodThere fixed that for you</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These large companies have professional Human Resource departments to make sure that the customer service experience appears to be goodThere fixed that for you</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490727</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491025</id>
	<title>Elementary School Math</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246032900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Verizon, AT&amp;T, etc. need to have WEEKLY sessions with every single employee until they all learn how to read numbers like $0.015 properly out loud. The FCC should make random calls and fine the telecoms for several million dollars each time an operator reads a number like that incorrectly. That will encourage said weekly meetings.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Verizon , AT&amp;T , etc .
need to have WEEKLY sessions with every single employee until they all learn how to read numbers like $ 0.015 properly out loud .
The FCC should make random calls and fine the telecoms for several million dollars each time an operator reads a number like that incorrectly .
That will encourage said weekly meetings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Verizon, AT&amp;T, etc.
need to have WEEKLY sessions with every single employee until they all learn how to read numbers like $0.015 properly out loud.
The FCC should make random calls and fine the telecoms for several million dollars each time an operator reads a number like that incorrectly.
That will encourage said weekly meetings.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28495609</id>
	<title>Re:Only in the US...</title>
	<author>pi8you</author>
	<datestamp>1246124880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does this hold true when you're traveling out of the country?  Most of the US add-on 'unlimited' plans fall in that same price range, but only within the country.  As soon as you start traveling, data (and voice) gets a hefty per-use charge added on to it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this hold true when you 're traveling out of the country ?
Most of the US add-on 'unlimited ' plans fall in that same price range , but only within the country .
As soon as you start traveling , data ( and voice ) gets a hefty per-use charge added on to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this hold true when you're traveling out of the country?
Most of the US add-on 'unlimited' plans fall in that same price range, but only within the country.
As soon as you start traveling, data (and voice) gets a hefty per-use charge added on to it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493207</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28494625</id>
	<title>Re:Only in the US...</title>
	<author>PenguinGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1246116720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's cause the US is basically run by corporations (through their little sock puppets the politicians) and so they are only interested in getting as much money as possible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's cause the US is basically run by corporations ( through their little sock puppets the politicians ) and so they are only interested in getting as much money as possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's cause the US is basically run by corporations (through their little sock puppets the politicians) and so they are only interested in getting as much money as possible.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493207</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490777</id>
	<title>First response...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246029960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Upon seeing the bill I'm sure his first response was, "I reject your reality and replace it with my own!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Upon seeing the bill I 'm sure his first response was , " I reject your reality and replace it with my own !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Upon seeing the bill I'm sure his first response was, "I reject your reality and replace it with my own!
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491235</id>
	<title>.015 cents per kilobit</title>
	<author>slashqwerty</author>
	<datestamp>1246035900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Given the way the math works out I'm going to say it's<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.015 cents per kilobit.  AT&amp;T claims he used 9 gigabytes.  That is 9,663,676,416 bytes = 9,437,184 kilobytes* = 77,309,411.328 kilobits.  At<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.015 cents per kilobit it comes out to $11,596.41.  The summary claims he was charged $11,000.

<br> <br>* down with the kibi prefix!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Given the way the math works out I 'm going to say it 's .015 cents per kilobit .
AT&amp;T claims he used 9 gigabytes .
That is 9,663,676,416 bytes = 9,437,184 kilobytes * = 77,309,411.328 kilobits .
At .015 cents per kilobit it comes out to $ 11,596.41 .
The summary claims he was charged $ 11,000 .
* down with the kibi prefix !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given the way the math works out I'm going to say it's .015 cents per kilobit.
AT&amp;T claims he used 9 gigabytes.
That is 9,663,676,416 bytes = 9,437,184 kilobytes* = 77,309,411.328 kilobits.
At .015 cents per kilobit it comes out to $11,596.41.
The summary claims he was charged $11,000.
* down with the kibi prefix!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490687</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491151</id>
	<title>Re:these insane usage charges</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246034760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree, at the same time, one can protect themselves by using Lynx or W3m to browse the web via a phone.... or just turn off images, flash, video, etc. Come to think of it, sometimes I wish Firefox had mode extension for rendering like w3m or lynx</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree , at the same time , one can protect themselves by using Lynx or W3m to browse the web via a phone.... or just turn off images , flash , video , etc .
Come to think of it , sometimes I wish Firefox had mode extension for rendering like w3m or lynx</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree, at the same time, one can protect themselves by using Lynx or W3m to browse the web via a phone.... or just turn off images, flash, video, etc.
Come to think of it, sometimes I wish Firefox had mode extension for rendering like w3m or lynx</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490765</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493081</id>
	<title>I can't believe they're still doing this...</title>
	<author>lumbricus</author>
	<datestamp>1246097160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>anyone else remember 0.002 dollar = 0.002 cent from two years ago?<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2isSJKntbg" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2isSJKntbg</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>anyone else remember 0.002 dollar = 0.002 cent from two years ago ? http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = D2isSJKntbg [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>anyone else remember 0.002 dollar = 0.002 cent from two years ago?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2isSJKntbg [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491287</id>
	<title>Re:He should'a known...</title>
	<author>ZachPruckowski</author>
	<datestamp>1246036440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's sort of implicit in the summary.  "Bad math" is kind of a clue that AT&amp;T made a number error, and there's a link to Verizon making the identical mistake (a link which explains the error).  I mean, thanks for spelling it out and all, but it's not like no one noticed it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's sort of implicit in the summary .
" Bad math " is kind of a clue that AT&amp;T made a number error , and there 's a link to Verizon making the identical mistake ( a link which explains the error ) .
I mean , thanks for spelling it out and all , but it 's not like no one noticed it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's sort of implicit in the summary.
"Bad math" is kind of a clue that AT&amp;T made a number error, and there's a link to Verizon making the identical mistake (a link which explains the error).
I mean, thanks for spelling it out and all, but it's not like no one noticed it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491009</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490793</id>
	<title>Re:Lucky for them</title>
	<author>subsonic</author>
	<datestamp>1246030020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>hey, i replied to his tweets in solidarity! What more is there?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/this slashdot reply is for those who gave the last full measure of their internet devotion in settling a cell phone bill dispute. (pours out 40)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>hey , i replied to his tweets in solidarity !
What more is there ?
/this slashdot reply is for those who gave the last full measure of their internet devotion in settling a cell phone bill dispute .
( pours out 40 )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hey, i replied to his tweets in solidarity!
What more is there?
/this slashdot reply is for those who gave the last full measure of their internet devotion in settling a cell phone bill dispute.
(pours out 40)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490691</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491009</id>
	<title>Re:He should'a known...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246032660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>".015 cents, or a penny and a half"<br>

Let me guess... whichever is larger?</p></div><p>I can't believe no on Slashdot has pointed out that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.015 cents != a penny and a half<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>.015 dollars = a penny and a half.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" .015 cents , or a penny and a half " Let me guess... whichever is larger ? I ca n't believe no on Slashdot has pointed out that .015 cents ! = a penny and a half .015 dollars = a penny and a half .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>".015 cents, or a penny and a half"

Let me guess... whichever is larger?I can't believe no on Slashdot has pointed out that .015 cents != a penny and a half .015 dollars = a penny and a half.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490687</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493587</id>
	<title>Re:Okay, I'll bite...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246104240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>consider exchange rates.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>consider exchange rates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>consider exchange rates.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491229</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490937</id>
	<title>Re:He should'a known...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246031820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Welcome to Canada, he almost got a better rate then we do here <a href="http://your.rogers.com/business/wireless/plans\_services/business\_plans.asp?plan=dataservice&amp;cat=2&amp;typ=2" title="rogers.com" rel="nofollow"> Rogers Wireless </a> [rogers.com] which is the only provider of GSM unless he was with <a href="http://www.bell.ca/shopping/PrsShpWls\_RtpDetails.page?wlcs\_catalog\_category\_id=DataRatePlans" title="www.bell.ca" rel="nofollow">Bell</a> [www.bell.ca] or <a href="http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/connectplans/index.shtml" title="telusmobility.com" rel="nofollow">Telus</a> [telusmobility.com] for CDMA / TDMA.  In Canada you have to deal with one of the three (there is Fido but they are really Rogers) for 1GB(yes o.n.e) it is $30/month with a 3 cent overage  calculated per KB, this is from the Rogers and Telus is actually 5 cents per MB.  If you can figure out what Bell is actually offering your likely a natural genius but all the plans start at $45.  <br> <br>
You can tell I'm slightly bitter but paying this kinda dough just to have 'the right' to do what I want and have the same kind of access other places in the world have the opportunity to use it kind of makes me feel silly being Canadian.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to Canada , he almost got a better rate then we do here Rogers Wireless [ rogers.com ] which is the only provider of GSM unless he was with Bell [ www.bell.ca ] or Telus [ telusmobility.com ] for CDMA / TDMA .
In Canada you have to deal with one of the three ( there is Fido but they are really Rogers ) for 1GB ( yes o.n.e ) it is $ 30/month with a 3 cent overage calculated per KB , this is from the Rogers and Telus is actually 5 cents per MB .
If you can figure out what Bell is actually offering your likely a natural genius but all the plans start at $ 45 .
You can tell I 'm slightly bitter but paying this kinda dough just to have 'the right ' to do what I want and have the same kind of access other places in the world have the opportunity to use it kind of makes me feel silly being Canadian .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to Canada, he almost got a better rate then we do here  Rogers Wireless  [rogers.com] which is the only provider of GSM unless he was with Bell [www.bell.ca] or Telus [telusmobility.com] for CDMA / TDMA.
In Canada you have to deal with one of the three (there is Fido but they are really Rogers) for 1GB(yes o.n.e) it is $30/month with a 3 cent overage  calculated per KB, this is from the Rogers and Telus is actually 5 cents per MB.
If you can figure out what Bell is actually offering your likely a natural genius but all the plans start at $45.
You can tell I'm slightly bitter but paying this kinda dough just to have 'the right' to do what I want and have the same kind of access other places in the world have the opportunity to use it kind of makes me feel silly being Canadian.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490687</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28492417</id>
	<title>Re:$15,000 per GB</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246046160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How many mobile data connections out there achieve 3 mbps?</p></div><p>6.67h = 9GB @ 3Mb/s</p><p>WiMAX (tm) can handle that frakken easy.  Adam would be the sort of customer it's intended for as well.  "auto sync" kicks in unattended (laptop left behind in some room?) and pulls down a DVD image.  Bingo.</p><p>Now; about the billing rate.  "<i>0.015 cents</i>" per KB means $1,350 for 9GB.  "<i>penny and a half, per kilobyte</i>" means $135,000 for 9GB.  Niether correlates at all with $11,000...  whatever.  There is some public school mathematics in the vicinity.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How many mobile data connections out there achieve 3 mbps ? 6.67h = 9GB @ 3Mb/sWiMAX ( tm ) can handle that frakken easy .
Adam would be the sort of customer it 's intended for as well .
" auto sync " kicks in unattended ( laptop left behind in some room ?
) and pulls down a DVD image .
Bingo.Now ; about the billing rate .
" 0.015 cents " per KB means $ 1,350 for 9GB .
" penny and a half , per kilobyte " means $ 135,000 for 9GB .
Niether correlates at all with $ 11,000... whatever. There is some public school mathematics in the vicinity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many mobile data connections out there achieve 3 mbps?6.67h = 9GB @ 3Mb/sWiMAX (tm) can handle that frakken easy.
Adam would be the sort of customer it's intended for as well.
"auto sync" kicks in unattended (laptop left behind in some room?
) and pulls down a DVD image.
Bingo.Now; about the billing rate.
"0.015 cents" per KB means $1,350 for 9GB.
"penny and a half, per kilobyte" means $135,000 for 9GB.
Niether correlates at all with $11,000...  whatever.  There is some public school mathematics in the vicinity.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491569</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493413</id>
	<title>Re:Okay, I'll bite...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246101660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's per kilobit, not byte. 9,437,184 * 8 * $0.00015 = 11,324.6208 ~ 11,000</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's per kilobit , not byte .
9,437,184 * 8 * $ 0.00015 = 11,324.6208 ~ 11,000</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's per kilobit, not byte.
9,437,184 * 8 * $0.00015 = 11,324.6208 ~ 11,000</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491229</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490695</id>
	<title>no way in hell!</title>
	<author>FudRucker</author>
	<datestamp>1246029060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>there is no way in hell AT&amp;T would be getting that kind of money out of me! you hear that AT&amp;T?!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>there is no way in hell AT&amp;T would be getting that kind of money out of me !
you hear that AT&amp;T ? !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there is no way in hell AT&amp;T would be getting that kind of money out of me!
you hear that AT&amp;T?!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491253</id>
	<title>maybe one about RT's with exploding batteries</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1246036200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>maybe one about RT's with exploding batteries.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>maybe one about RT 's with exploding batteries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>maybe one about RT's with exploding batteries.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490675</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491503</id>
	<title>Re:Okay, I'll bite...</title>
	<author>tagno25</author>
	<datestamp>1246037820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They(AT&amp;T) charge per kilo<b>bit</b>.<br>
Almost all network transfer rates are measured (and advertised) in bits, not bytes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They ( AT&amp;T ) charge per kilobit .
Almost all network transfer rates are measured ( and advertised ) in bits , not bytes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They(AT&amp;T) charge per kilobit.
Almost all network transfer rates are measured (and advertised) in bits, not bytes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491229</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28498057</id>
	<title>Re:CHANGE? LOL, it's all Obama's gonna leave you w</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246099560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1000+ pages of global warming bullshit voted on... COMPLETELY UNREAD! LOL, the most transparent gov't ever... TRANSPARENTLY TRAITOROUS!!! LOL, good luck with your new fascism, pussies!!! You'll be begging for the days of GWB when you had &gt; 2 pennies to rub together.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1000 + pages of global warming bullshit voted on... COMPLETELY UNREAD !
LOL , the most transparent gov't ever... TRANSPARENTLY TRAITOROUS ! ! !
LOL , good luck with your new fascism , pussies ! ! !
You 'll be begging for the days of GWB when you had &gt; 2 pennies to rub together .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1000+ pages of global warming bullshit voted on... COMPLETELY UNREAD!
LOL, the most transparent gov't ever... TRANSPARENTLY TRAITOROUS!!!
LOL, good luck with your new fascism, pussies!!!
You'll be begging for the days of GWB when you had &gt; 2 pennies to rub together.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491045</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28494037</id>
	<title>Re:Only in the US...</title>
	<author>Bluebottel</author>
	<datestamp>1246111260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have never heard of any Swedish ISP that uses caps. In fact i were convinced that it was a myth or a thing they used way back in the earliest days of the internet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have never heard of any Swedish ISP that uses caps .
In fact i were convinced that it was a myth or a thing they used way back in the earliest days of the internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have never heard of any Swedish ISP that uses caps.
In fact i were convinced that it was a myth or a thing they used way back in the earliest days of the internet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493207</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28494591</id>
	<title>Re:Okay, I'll bite...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246116300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Someone earlier posted that this is likely due to the price ($0.015/kB) not being per kiloBYTE but per kiloBIT!</p><p><a href="http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1283831&amp;cid=28491235" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow"> Math in the earlier post </a> [slashdot.org] <br>
&nbsp; <br>JGG</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone earlier posted that this is likely due to the price ( $ 0.015/kB ) not being per kiloBYTE but per kiloBIT !
Math in the earlier post [ slashdot.org ]   JGG</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone earlier posted that this is likely due to the price ($0.015/kB) not being per kiloBYTE but per kiloBIT!
Math in the earlier post  [slashdot.org] 
  JGG</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491229</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28498233</id>
	<title>Don't have to physically Leave the USA to be Charg</title>
	<author>wizzerking</author>
	<datestamp>1246100820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I live an hour outside of Sacramento, and was charged by AT &amp; T 1,100 because some on managed to use my wireless phones in my house, and call a Canadian Number !!!  This Happened twice before i got rid of the wireless phones in my house, and only because i had affidavits from bowling partners for 3 of the phone session, and my son and I were on a trip, was I able to successfully dispute those charges.  AT &amp; T was NO HELP, and I had to LEARN EVERYTHING MY SELF.  In the end I have no choice about AT &amp; T, since teh Vonage will not work with the Crapphy internet we have out here 1 Hour drive from Sacramento, California, and NO CELL PHONE RECEPTION IN OUR HOUSE EVEN TRYING, and there are over 5,000 people up here in teh foothills you are in the exact same position, STUCK IN LANDLINE HELL, with NO DSL, and our only options is ISDN, or Satellite Internet.  Be glad you live in the big city, I have to love trees a lot to put up with this 3 rd world backwater called the USA.  I am thankful when I travel to Korea, and India, because there I have complete internet and phone mobility !!!!  When is the Government going to insist that this situation is causing the USA to be a 3rd world nation as far as telecommunications is concerned !!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I live an hour outside of Sacramento , and was charged by AT &amp; T 1,100 because some on managed to use my wireless phones in my house , and call a Canadian Number ! ! !
This Happened twice before i got rid of the wireless phones in my house , and only because i had affidavits from bowling partners for 3 of the phone session , and my son and I were on a trip , was I able to successfully dispute those charges .
AT &amp; T was NO HELP , and I had to LEARN EVERYTHING MY SELF .
In the end I have no choice about AT &amp; T , since teh Vonage will not work with the Crapphy internet we have out here 1 Hour drive from Sacramento , California , and NO CELL PHONE RECEPTION IN OUR HOUSE EVEN TRYING , and there are over 5,000 people up here in teh foothills you are in the exact same position , STUCK IN LANDLINE HELL , with NO DSL , and our only options is ISDN , or Satellite Internet .
Be glad you live in the big city , I have to love trees a lot to put up with this 3 rd world backwater called the USA .
I am thankful when I travel to Korea , and India , because there I have complete internet and phone mobility ! ! ! !
When is the Government going to insist that this situation is causing the USA to be a 3rd world nation as far as telecommunications is concerned ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live an hour outside of Sacramento, and was charged by AT &amp; T 1,100 because some on managed to use my wireless phones in my house, and call a Canadian Number !!!
This Happened twice before i got rid of the wireless phones in my house, and only because i had affidavits from bowling partners for 3 of the phone session, and my son and I were on a trip, was I able to successfully dispute those charges.
AT &amp; T was NO HELP, and I had to LEARN EVERYTHING MY SELF.
In the end I have no choice about AT &amp; T, since teh Vonage will not work with the Crapphy internet we have out here 1 Hour drive from Sacramento, California, and NO CELL PHONE RECEPTION IN OUR HOUSE EVEN TRYING, and there are over 5,000 people up here in teh foothills you are in the exact same position, STUCK IN LANDLINE HELL, with NO DSL, and our only options is ISDN, or Satellite Internet.
Be glad you live in the big city, I have to love trees a lot to put up with this 3 rd world backwater called the USA.
I am thankful when I travel to Korea, and India, because there I have complete internet and phone mobility !!!!
When is the Government going to insist that this situation is causing the USA to be a 3rd world nation as far as telecommunications is concerned !!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490775</id>
	<title>Famous power</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246029960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So all you need to do is be famous with lots of support and then you will get taken care of?  What if this happened to a "normal" person?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So all you need to do is be famous with lots of support and then you will get taken care of ?
What if this happened to a " normal " person ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So all you need to do is be famous with lots of support and then you will get taken care of?
What if this happened to a "normal" person?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28492111</id>
	<title>Re:He should'a known...</title>
	<author>RawsonDR</author>
	<datestamp>1246042740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I can't believe no on Slashdot has pointed out that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.015 cents != a penny and a half</p></div><p>That's because that is suppose to be the obvious part, but isn't <b> <i>to surprisingly few people.</i></b>  That's the whole point.

</p><p>The rate really is 1.5 cents per KB, but it is constantly quoted as<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.015 cents.. that is, the number is typed out in dollars (.015) but because everyone knows that a price in fractions of dollars is really talking about cents, that's the unit spoken by a lot of people when interpreting it. "Point zero one five cents." And they don't understand that they have changed the value.

</p><p>It's not a matter of a haywire billing system, it a matter of false advertising by those who misquote it and to those who (gasp) interpret things literally - the ones who don't are just suckers.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't believe no on Slashdot has pointed out that .015 cents ! = a penny and a halfThat 's because that is suppose to be the obvious part , but is n't to surprisingly few people .
That 's the whole point .
The rate really is 1.5 cents per KB , but it is constantly quoted as .015 cents.. that is , the number is typed out in dollars ( .015 ) but because everyone knows that a price in fractions of dollars is really talking about cents , that 's the unit spoken by a lot of people when interpreting it .
" Point zero one five cents .
" And they do n't understand that they have changed the value .
It 's not a matter of a haywire billing system , it a matter of false advertising by those who misquote it and to those who ( gasp ) interpret things literally - the ones who do n't are just suckers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't believe no on Slashdot has pointed out that .015 cents != a penny and a halfThat's because that is suppose to be the obvious part, but isn't  to surprisingly few people.
That's the whole point.
The rate really is 1.5 cents per KB, but it is constantly quoted as .015 cents.. that is, the number is typed out in dollars (.015) but because everyone knows that a price in fractions of dollars is really talking about cents, that's the unit spoken by a lot of people when interpreting it.
"Point zero one five cents.
" And they don't understand that they have changed the value.
It's not a matter of a haywire billing system, it a matter of false advertising by those who misquote it and to those who (gasp) interpret things literally - the ones who don't are just suckers.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491009</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491173</id>
	<title>Re:Lucky for them</title>
	<author>sentientbeing</author>
	<datestamp>1246035240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ah violent angry mobs. Is there anything they cant do.<br> <br>The cause of, and answer to all lifes problems.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah violent angry mobs .
Is there anything they cant do .
The cause of , and answer to all lifes problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah violent angry mobs.
Is there anything they cant do.
The cause of, and answer to all lifes problems.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490691</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490701</id>
	<title>from the people who brought you this commercial...</title>
	<author>starblazer</author>
	<datestamp>1246029120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IDK MY BFF JILL DOZ MTH 4 ATT</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IDK MY BFF JILL DOZ MTH 4 ATT</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IDK MY BFF JILL DOZ MTH 4 ATT</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493067</id>
	<title>Re:Celebrity status?</title>
	<author>AbRASiON</author>
	<datestamp>1246096980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh America!<br>Being charged money to RECEIVE SMS and phone calls, absoloutely apalling, my condolences.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p><p>- The rest of the world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh America ! Being charged money to RECEIVE SMS and phone calls , absoloutely apalling , my condolences .
: ( - The rest of the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh America!Being charged money to RECEIVE SMS and phone calls, absoloutely apalling, my condolences.
:(- The rest of the world.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490785</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28494257</id>
	<title>WTF</title>
	<author>uassholes</author>
	<datestamp>1246113360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>There were two FAs in TFS.  Both were total fucking garbage.  Is there anywhere a literate person could read what happened?  No twits thank you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There were two FAs in TFS .
Both were total fucking garbage .
Is there anywhere a literate person could read what happened ?
No twits thank you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There were two FAs in TFS.
Both were total fucking garbage.
Is there anywhere a literate person could read what happened?
No twits thank you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28502599</id>
	<title>Re:He should'a known...</title>
	<author>b4dc0d3r</author>
	<datestamp>1246192320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I assume you checked the exchange rates at the moment you posted that, to be assured that the exchange rate did not make a liar out of you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I assume you checked the exchange rates at the moment you posted that , to be assured that the exchange rate did not make a liar out of you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I assume you checked the exchange rates at the moment you posted that, to be assured that the exchange rate did not make a liar out of you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28495831</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28494071</id>
	<title>Re:Only in the US...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246111620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm paying $32.95 for 10/2 via brighthouse networks in Florida. No bandwidth caps. The "other guys" knology are offering me 28.95 for the same service.</p><p>It's not their advertised price (44.95), but you're still way off in your sensationalized and ignorant post.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm paying $ 32.95 for 10/2 via brighthouse networks in Florida .
No bandwidth caps .
The " other guys " knology are offering me 28.95 for the same service.It 's not their advertised price ( 44.95 ) , but you 're still way off in your sensationalized and ignorant post .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm paying $32.95 for 10/2 via brighthouse networks in Florida.
No bandwidth caps.
The "other guys" knology are offering me 28.95 for the same service.It's not their advertised price (44.95), but you're still way off in your sensationalized and ignorant post.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493207</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490715</id>
	<title>Celebrity status?</title>
	<author>elashish14</author>
	<datestamp>1246029300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wish I could have a mass following behind me that I could use to blackmail evil corporations.... Instead, here I am just clicking away at every Microsoft ad I see hoping that it'll eventually rack up some respectable cost to them.</p><p>-bitterness, sad face-</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish I could have a mass following behind me that I could use to blackmail evil corporations.... Instead , here I am just clicking away at every Microsoft ad I see hoping that it 'll eventually rack up some respectable cost to them.-bitterness , sad face-</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish I could have a mass following behind me that I could use to blackmail evil corporations.... Instead, here I am just clicking away at every Microsoft ad I see hoping that it'll eventually rack up some respectable cost to them.-bitterness, sad face-</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490679</id>
	<title>frist post</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246028880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>know your plan before you rawk out on the pron.  look before you leap and all that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>know your plan before you rawk out on the pron .
look before you leap and all that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>know your plan before you rawk out on the pron.
look before you leap and all that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28495121</id>
	<title>Re:A Billing System Deficiency</title>
	<author>wwphx</author>
	<datestamp>1246120740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Customer service Epic Fail.  I find it interesting that people aren't mentioning that this is actually Cingular, AT&amp;T cellular died years ago and was bought out by Cingular, who later re-branded as AT&amp;T because they thought that had better name recognition.  AT&amp;T flubbed a CRM install and it tanked their customer service, and they died.  It just happened that the two companies used the same cellular technology (GSM or whatever) and a merger was possible.  Sadly, Cingular's customer service was really no better than AT&amp;T's, so you're still dealing with a sad and lonely monster.<br> <br>
I use Alltel.  Driving to work a week ago I got a text message saying that my account had high usage and I needed to call them.  My wife had just spent a week on the other side of the country, her cell is an additional line on my plan.  We spent a lot of hours playing WoW and talking while she was gone, and I didn't know she was roaming.  $600 worth of charges.  Alltel saw the problem, contacted me, and offered me a plan upgrade for $20 a month that gave me unlimited nation-wide roaming, and that by doing it, it would be retroactive and I wouldn't be hit with a $600 phone bill.<br> <br>
THAT is customer service.  I don't know what AT&amp;T provides, but it ain't customer service.  Cellular service in the USA has always been hideously monopolistic compared to a lot of the world, and somehow they get away with it.  Hopefully that will change some day, probably the same day that I can easily buy an iPhone from an Alltel store and not have to deal with AT&amp;T.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Customer service Epic Fail .
I find it interesting that people are n't mentioning that this is actually Cingular , AT&amp;T cellular died years ago and was bought out by Cingular , who later re-branded as AT&amp;T because they thought that had better name recognition .
AT&amp;T flubbed a CRM install and it tanked their customer service , and they died .
It just happened that the two companies used the same cellular technology ( GSM or whatever ) and a merger was possible .
Sadly , Cingular 's customer service was really no better than AT&amp;T 's , so you 're still dealing with a sad and lonely monster .
I use Alltel .
Driving to work a week ago I got a text message saying that my account had high usage and I needed to call them .
My wife had just spent a week on the other side of the country , her cell is an additional line on my plan .
We spent a lot of hours playing WoW and talking while she was gone , and I did n't know she was roaming .
$ 600 worth of charges .
Alltel saw the problem , contacted me , and offered me a plan upgrade for $ 20 a month that gave me unlimited nation-wide roaming , and that by doing it , it would be retroactive and I would n't be hit with a $ 600 phone bill .
THAT is customer service .
I do n't know what AT&amp;T provides , but it ai n't customer service .
Cellular service in the USA has always been hideously monopolistic compared to a lot of the world , and somehow they get away with it .
Hopefully that will change some day , probably the same day that I can easily buy an iPhone from an Alltel store and not have to deal with AT&amp;T .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Customer service Epic Fail.
I find it interesting that people aren't mentioning that this is actually Cingular, AT&amp;T cellular died years ago and was bought out by Cingular, who later re-branded as AT&amp;T because they thought that had better name recognition.
AT&amp;T flubbed a CRM install and it tanked their customer service, and they died.
It just happened that the two companies used the same cellular technology (GSM or whatever) and a merger was possible.
Sadly, Cingular's customer service was really no better than AT&amp;T's, so you're still dealing with a sad and lonely monster.
I use Alltel.
Driving to work a week ago I got a text message saying that my account had high usage and I needed to call them.
My wife had just spent a week on the other side of the country, her cell is an additional line on my plan.
We spent a lot of hours playing WoW and talking while she was gone, and I didn't know she was roaming.
$600 worth of charges.
Alltel saw the problem, contacted me, and offered me a plan upgrade for $20 a month that gave me unlimited nation-wide roaming, and that by doing it, it would be retroactive and I wouldn't be hit with a $600 phone bill.
THAT is customer service.
I don't know what AT&amp;T provides, but it ain't customer service.
Cellular service in the USA has always been hideously monopolistic compared to a lot of the world, and somehow they get away with it.
Hopefully that will change some day, probably the same day that I can easily buy an iPhone from an Alltel store and not have to deal with AT&amp;T.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491373</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28494049</id>
	<title>Re:Okay, I'll bite...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246111440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>lso off by a factor of ~12.87</p></div><p>Did you notice that 100/8=12.5? They are charging for bits, not bytes.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>lso off by a factor of ~ 12.87Did you notice that 100/8 = 12.5 ?
They are charging for bits , not bytes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>lso off by a factor of ~12.87Did you notice that 100/8=12.5?
They are charging for bits, not bytes.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491229</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28492791</id>
	<title>Re:.015 cents per kilobit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246093860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Given the way the math works out I'm going to say it's<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.015 cents per kilobit.  AT&amp;T claims he used 9 gigabytes.  That is 9,663,676,416 bytes&#226;&#166;</p></div><p>Nope. Data transfer rates <b>always</b> use the SI definition where G = 10^9, M = 10^6, k = 10^3.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Given the way the math works out I 'm going to say it 's .015 cents per kilobit .
AT&amp;T claims he used 9 gigabytes .
That is 9,663,676,416 bytes     Nope .
Data transfer rates always use the SI definition where G = 10 ^ 9 , M = 10 ^ 6 , k = 10 ^ 3 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given the way the math works out I'm going to say it's .015 cents per kilobit.
AT&amp;T claims he used 9 gigabytes.
That is 9,663,676,416 bytesâ¦Nope.
Data transfer rates always use the SI definition where G = 10^9, M = 10^6, k = 10^3.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491235</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490855</id>
	<title>Re:He should'a known...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246030920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, you divide the larger by the smaller.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , you divide the larger by the smaller .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, you divide the larger by the smaller.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490687</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28501643</id>
	<title>Thermite!</title>
	<author>twoblink</author>
	<datestamp>1246132380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the answer is Thermite for everything..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the answer is Thermite for everything. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the answer is Thermite for everything..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493421</id>
	<title>Re:these insane usage charges</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246101840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>anyone else think those companies are crooks for charging per kilobyte like that is complete bull s(*@# ?  just loading a damn web page like cnn.com is almost <b>1MB so that would be 1$</b> </p></div><p>1KB costs $0.15<br>1MB equals 1,000 KB<br>1,000 KB * $0.15 = $1???</p><p>Arbiter1, do you do math at AT&amp;T for a living?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>anyone else think those companies are crooks for charging per kilobyte like that is complete bull s ( * @ # ?
just loading a damn web page like cnn.com is almost 1MB so that would be 1 $ 1KB costs $ 0.151MB equals 1,000 KB1,000 KB * $ 0.15 = $ 1 ? ?
? Arbiter1 , do you do math at AT&amp;T for a living ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>anyone else think those companies are crooks for charging per kilobyte like that is complete bull s(*@# ?
just loading a damn web page like cnn.com is almost 1MB so that would be 1$ 1KB costs $0.151MB equals 1,000 KB1,000 KB * $0.15 = $1??
?Arbiter1, do you do math at AT&amp;T for a living?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490765</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493683</id>
	<title>Re:these insane usage charges</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246105920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You could always try <a href="http://www.standards-schmandards.com/projects/fangs/" title="standards-...ndards.com" rel="nofollow">Fangs</a> [standards-...ndards.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You could always try Fangs [ standards-...ndards.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could always try Fangs [standards-...ndards.com].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491151</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493093</id>
	<title>Re:Let's not be cynical</title>
	<author>Kr1ll1n</author>
	<datestamp>1246097280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ummm....No. that is why they have Customer Service departments. HR is for internal use only....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ummm....No .
that is why they have Customer Service departments .
HR is for internal use only... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ummm....No.
that is why they have Customer Service departments.
HR is for internal use only....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490727</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491435</id>
	<title>Re:these insane usage charges</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1246037460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Opera is pretty good at it - it has toolbar buttons to disable images (or only show cached), CSS, and so on. I'm pretty sure I've seen similar Firefox plugins, too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Opera is pretty good at it - it has toolbar buttons to disable images ( or only show cached ) , CSS , and so on .
I 'm pretty sure I 've seen similar Firefox plugins , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Opera is pretty good at it - it has toolbar buttons to disable images (or only show cached), CSS, and so on.
I'm pretty sure I've seen similar Firefox plugins, too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491151</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28492893</id>
	<title>why is it so expensive anyway?</title>
	<author>speedtux</author>
	<datestamp>1246094760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't understand why data is so hugely expensive in the US anyway.  In Europe, you get unlimited data plans starting at EU 5/month (EU 25/month for unlimited 3.5G usage).  Or you can buy 3G access day-by-day for EU 2.50/day.  Some plans have international data roaming caps anywhere within Europe at EU 15/day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand why data is so hugely expensive in the US anyway .
In Europe , you get unlimited data plans starting at EU 5/month ( EU 25/month for unlimited 3.5G usage ) .
Or you can buy 3G access day-by-day for EU 2.50/day .
Some plans have international data roaming caps anywhere within Europe at EU 15/day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand why data is so hugely expensive in the US anyway.
In Europe, you get unlimited data plans starting at EU 5/month (EU 25/month for unlimited 3.5G usage).
Or you can buy 3G access day-by-day for EU 2.50/day.
Some plans have international data roaming caps anywhere within Europe at EU 15/day.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491525</id>
	<title>Re:He should'a known...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246037940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does the acknowledgment that one is larger than the other not imply that they are not equal?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does the acknowledgment that one is larger than the other not imply that they are not equal ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does the acknowledgment that one is larger than the other not imply that they are not equal?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491009</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491119</id>
	<title>Re:Celebrity status?</title>
	<author>quanticle</author>
	<datestamp>1246034280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given that his cell phone was turned off by AT&amp;T (as a result of his alleged overage charge), I have a hard time believing AT&amp;T got any money from Mr. Savage's tweets. </p><p>Besides, even if he had sent the tweets via cell phone, all 55,000 of his followers would have had to be 1) AT&amp;T subscribers and 2) set up their Twitter accounts to receive Savage's updates via text messages and 3) paid for those text messages at the basic rate (not via some kind of unlimited usage plan).  I don't know about you, but I find that to be a rather dubious scenario.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given that his cell phone was turned off by AT&amp;T ( as a result of his alleged overage charge ) , I have a hard time believing AT&amp;T got any money from Mr. Savage 's tweets .
Besides , even if he had sent the tweets via cell phone , all 55,000 of his followers would have had to be 1 ) AT&amp;T subscribers and 2 ) set up their Twitter accounts to receive Savage 's updates via text messages and 3 ) paid for those text messages at the basic rate ( not via some kind of unlimited usage plan ) .
I do n't know about you , but I find that to be a rather dubious scenario .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given that his cell phone was turned off by AT&amp;T (as a result of his alleged overage charge), I have a hard time believing AT&amp;T got any money from Mr. Savage's tweets.
Besides, even if he had sent the tweets via cell phone, all 55,000 of his followers would have had to be 1) AT&amp;T subscribers and 2) set up their Twitter accounts to receive Savage's updates via text messages and 3) paid for those text messages at the basic rate (not via some kind of unlimited usage plan).
I don't know about you, but I find that to be a rather dubious scenario.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490785</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28492701</id>
	<title>Re:Soz this mean we get a cellphone special now?</title>
	<author>thsths</author>
	<datestamp>1246136160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have seen this before - what is it about saying 0.02 cent when you mean 2 cent or 0.02 dollar? Does not make the least bit of sense to me - although I can at least see why you would do it there (0 dollor and 2 cent...). But with fractional cent that does not explain it, so why do people do it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have seen this before - what is it about saying 0.02 cent when you mean 2 cent or 0.02 dollar ?
Does not make the least bit of sense to me - although I can at least see why you would do it there ( 0 dollor and 2 cent... ) .
But with fractional cent that does not explain it , so why do people do it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have seen this before - what is it about saying 0.02 cent when you mean 2 cent or 0.02 dollar?
Does not make the least bit of sense to me - although I can at least see why you would do it there (0 dollor and 2 cent...).
But with fractional cent that does not explain it, so why do people do it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490675</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28492001</id>
	<title>Re:Iran and AT&amp;T vs. Twitter</title>
	<author>MagusSlurpy</author>
	<datestamp>1246041780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>We'll claim Iran was humbled when we see some actual results.  All we've seen so far is more beatings than there would have been without the internet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We 'll claim Iran was humbled when we see some actual results .
All we 've seen so far is more beatings than there would have been without the internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We'll claim Iran was humbled when we see some actual results.
All we've seen so far is more beatings than there would have been without the internet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490951</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491031</id>
	<title>Re:Celebrity status?</title>
	<author>elashish14</author>
	<datestamp>1246032960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He also happens to have a TV show.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He also happens to have a TV show .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He also happens to have a TV show.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490785</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28498181</id>
	<title>Re:Celebrity status?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246100460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>yeah i'm not sure what he's talking about.. must be a joy of AT&amp;T thing.</p><p>I've got 4 phones, unlimited in-network calling, unlimited nights/weekends, unlimited SMS/MMS, and unlimited data (2 blackberrys), unlimited free wifi calling, all for $135 or so per mo total.  </p><p>(T-Mobile family)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yeah i 'm not sure what he 's talking about.. must be a joy of AT&amp;T thing.I 've got 4 phones , unlimited in-network calling , unlimited nights/weekends , unlimited SMS/MMS , and unlimited data ( 2 blackberrys ) , unlimited free wifi calling , all for $ 135 or so per mo total .
( T-Mobile family )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yeah i'm not sure what he's talking about.. must be a joy of AT&amp;T thing.I've got 4 phones, unlimited in-network calling, unlimited nights/weekends, unlimited SMS/MMS, and unlimited data (2 blackberrys), unlimited free wifi calling, all for $135 or so per mo total.
(T-Mobile family)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493067</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28494279</id>
	<title>Re:A Billing System Deficiency</title>
	<author>Wayne247</author>
	<datestamp>1246113540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With their iPhone plans, Rogers now has an automatic upper limit to data charges on an account, which I beleive is set at 100$. So if you bust your, say, 30$ a month data plan, you can not bring it above 100$ no matter what you actually used.</p><p>Not sure if that applies to roaming, which I've just posted my story about below...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With their iPhone plans , Rogers now has an automatic upper limit to data charges on an account , which I beleive is set at 100 $ .
So if you bust your , say , 30 $ a month data plan , you can not bring it above 100 $ no matter what you actually used.Not sure if that applies to roaming , which I 've just posted my story about below.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With their iPhone plans, Rogers now has an automatic upper limit to data charges on an account, which I beleive is set at 100$.
So if you bust your, say, 30$ a month data plan, you can not bring it above 100$ no matter what you actually used.Not sure if that applies to roaming, which I've just posted my story about below...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491373</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28500929</id>
	<title>Re:Okay, I'll bite...</title>
	<author>Drew826</author>
	<datestamp>1246123500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The price is quoted per kilobit (Kb), not per kilobyte (KB). 8 bits in a Byte.
<br> <br>
9 GB = 9,437,184 KB = 75,497,472 Kb * $0.00015 = $11324.6208</htmltext>
<tokenext>The price is quoted per kilobit ( Kb ) , not per kilobyte ( KB ) .
8 bits in a Byte .
9 GB = 9,437,184 KB = 75,497,472 Kb * $ 0.00015 = $ 11324.6208</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The price is quoted per kilobit (Kb), not per kilobyte (KB).
8 bits in a Byte.
9 GB = 9,437,184 KB = 75,497,472 Kb * $0.00015 = $11324.6208</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491229</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28492571</id>
	<title>Blame Canada!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246134420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How come no one has yet done that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How come no one has yet done that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How come no one has yet done that?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28495045</id>
	<title>Re:Okay, I'll bite...</title>
	<author>crossmr</author>
	<datestamp>1246120320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I ordered a tshirt from the US once. It was for charity. As the shirt came into canada I was charged $2 tax, the government also charged me a $5 fee to charged me the $2 in tax.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ordered a tshirt from the US once .
It was for charity .
As the shirt came into canada I was charged $ 2 tax , the government also charged me a $ 5 fee to charged me the $ 2 in tax .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I ordered a tshirt from the US once.
It was for charity.
As the shirt came into canada I was charged $2 tax, the government also charged me a $5 fee to charged me the $2 in tax.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491229</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28495831</id>
	<title>Re:He should'a known...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246126860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll point out that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.015 dollars does not equal a penny and a half, since the US (and Canada) have no coin called a penny. That's England. Here we have cents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll point out that .015 dollars does not equal a penny and a half , since the US ( and Canada ) have no coin called a penny .
That 's England .
Here we have cents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll point out that .015 dollars does not equal a penny and a half, since the US (and Canada) have no coin called a penny.
That's England.
Here we have cents.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491009</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493207</id>
	<title>Only in the US...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246098780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only in the US do you have this insanity.  I'm returning from a trip to Stockholm and you can get unlimited 7.2MB broadband for about 40 bucks a month including taxes.  25 if you already have a phone plan.  My swedish is lacking, but poking around with google translator I didn't find anything about bandwidth caps.</p><p>Again:  $25-40US for UNLIMITED 7.2Mb broadband.  Including taxes.</p><p>Off the top of my head, not a single major WIRED provider in the US even matches that price<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and many are talking about implementing bandwidth caps. Wireless?  Bah.  No big provider is unlimited and you're coughing up at least $60 + taxes and good luck actually getting 7.2Mb.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only in the US do you have this insanity .
I 'm returning from a trip to Stockholm and you can get unlimited 7.2MB broadband for about 40 bucks a month including taxes .
25 if you already have a phone plan .
My swedish is lacking , but poking around with google translator I did n't find anything about bandwidth caps.Again : $ 25-40US for UNLIMITED 7.2Mb broadband .
Including taxes.Off the top of my head , not a single major WIRED provider in the US even matches that price ... and many are talking about implementing bandwidth caps .
Wireless ? Bah .
No big provider is unlimited and you 're coughing up at least $ 60 + taxes and good luck actually getting 7.2Mb .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only in the US do you have this insanity.
I'm returning from a trip to Stockholm and you can get unlimited 7.2MB broadband for about 40 bucks a month including taxes.
25 if you already have a phone plan.
My swedish is lacking, but poking around with google translator I didn't find anything about bandwidth caps.Again:  $25-40US for UNLIMITED 7.2Mb broadband.
Including taxes.Off the top of my head, not a single major WIRED provider in the US even matches that price ... and many are talking about implementing bandwidth caps.
Wireless?  Bah.
No big provider is unlimited and you're coughing up at least $60 + taxes and good luck actually getting 7.2Mb.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28492397</id>
	<title>My favorite quotes from the article</title>
	<author>Hotawa Hawk-eye</author>
	<datestamp>1246045860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>"nobody wants to mess with a man who blows things up for a living."</htmltext>
<tokenext>" nobody wants to mess with a man who blows things up for a living .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"nobody wants to mess with a man who blows things up for a living.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490957</id>
	<title>Re:Let's not be cynical</title>
	<author>somenickname</author>
	<datestamp>1246032000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You forgot the part about him having in depth knowledge of explosives.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You forgot the part about him having in depth knowledge of explosives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You forgot the part about him having in depth knowledge of explosives.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490727</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28508351</id>
	<title>Re:CHANGE? LOL, it's all Obama's gonna leave you w</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246195860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As someone who earns 25K US I am very happy with Mr Obama's actions.</p><p>Go you good thing!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone who earns 25K US I am very happy with Mr Obama 's actions.Go you good thing !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone who earns 25K US I am very happy with Mr Obama's actions.Go you good thing!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491045</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491085</id>
	<title>Re:Let's not be cynical</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246033740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes. I agree, and <a href="http://twitter.com/donttrythis/status/2352107491" title="twitter.com">so does Adam</a> [twitter.com].</p><p>"I agree with everyone: it shouldn't just work for me. The data carriers MUST stop thinking in kilobytes and start thinking in customers."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
I agree , and so does Adam [ twitter.com ] .
" I agree with everyone : it should n't just work for me .
The data carriers MUST stop thinking in kilobytes and start thinking in customers .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
I agree, and so does Adam [twitter.com].
"I agree with everyone: it shouldn't just work for me.
The data carriers MUST stop thinking in kilobytes and start thinking in customers.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490727</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491959</id>
	<title>Customers.</title>
	<author>MindlessAutomata</author>
	<datestamp>1246041180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We've got the technology.  It's time we start banding together and holding businesses accountable together, instead of hoping that some magical government does it for us.  Businesses get their money from the people (ideally), we're the ones that feed them.  We can all have control as long as we pay attention.  Businesses exist to convince us to give them money for what they do, we need only to work together with boycotts and calling frenzies to get what we want.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've got the technology .
It 's time we start banding together and holding businesses accountable together , instead of hoping that some magical government does it for us .
Businesses get their money from the people ( ideally ) , we 're the ones that feed them .
We can all have control as long as we pay attention .
Businesses exist to convince us to give them money for what they do , we need only to work together with boycotts and calling frenzies to get what we want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've got the technology.
It's time we start banding together and holding businesses accountable together, instead of hoping that some magical government does it for us.
Businesses get their money from the people (ideally), we're the ones that feed them.
We can all have control as long as we pay attention.
Businesses exist to convince us to give them money for what they do, we need only to work together with boycotts and calling frenzies to get what we want.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491569</id>
	<title>$15,000 per GB</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246038240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OK, even at $0.015 per K, you're talking about $15 per MB, or $15,000 per GB. To do 1 GB in an hour requires 3 mbps. How many mobile data connections out there achieve 3 mbps?</p><p>I use Verizon, and IF I had a data plan, overage for the 5 GB/mo plan is $0.05 per MB, which is 1/300 AT&amp;T's rate. Even a cheap "browser on the phone" pay-as-you-go is $2/MB; still about 1/7 AT&amp;T's rate.</p><p>Needless to say, there's still no way in hell I'd pay $50/GB for a data plan. Thus I don't.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , even at $ 0.015 per K , you 're talking about $ 15 per MB , or $ 15,000 per GB .
To do 1 GB in an hour requires 3 mbps .
How many mobile data connections out there achieve 3 mbps ? I use Verizon , and IF I had a data plan , overage for the 5 GB/mo plan is $ 0.05 per MB , which is 1/300 AT&amp;T 's rate .
Even a cheap " browser on the phone " pay-as-you-go is $ 2/MB ; still about 1/7 AT&amp;T 's rate.Needless to say , there 's still no way in hell I 'd pay $ 50/GB for a data plan .
Thus I do n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, even at $0.015 per K, you're talking about $15 per MB, or $15,000 per GB.
To do 1 GB in an hour requires 3 mbps.
How many mobile data connections out there achieve 3 mbps?I use Verizon, and IF I had a data plan, overage for the 5 GB/mo plan is $0.05 per MB, which is 1/300 AT&amp;T's rate.
Even a cheap "browser on the phone" pay-as-you-go is $2/MB; still about 1/7 AT&amp;T's rate.Needless to say, there's still no way in hell I'd pay $50/GB for a data plan.
Thus I don't.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490691</id>
	<title>Lucky for them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246029060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not sure what a crowd of angry MythBusters fans would do, but I'm sure that it would involve large amounts of kinetic energy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure what a crowd of angry MythBusters fans would do , but I 'm sure that it would involve large amounts of kinetic energy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure what a crowd of angry MythBusters fans would do, but I'm sure that it would involve large amounts of kinetic energy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491117</id>
	<title>What's even worse</title>
	<author>lcreech</author>
	<datestamp>1246034220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A penney and a half is a bargin compared to the $.20 they charge for both incoming and outgoing text messages</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A penney and a half is a bargin compared to the $ .20 they charge for both incoming and outgoing text messages</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A penney and a half is a bargin compared to the $.20 they charge for both incoming and outgoing text messages</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28496529</id>
	<title>t8z5h3</title>
	<author>t8z5h3</author>
	<datestamp>1246132980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>lol at rogers</htmltext>
<tokenext>lol at rogers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>lol at rogers</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28503959</id>
	<title>Re:A Billing System Deficiency</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246205580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except Alltel is gone now.  Can you hear me now?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except Alltel is gone now .
Can you hear me now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except Alltel is gone now.
Can you hear me now?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28495121</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28498349</id>
	<title>Re:why is it so expensive anyway?</title>
	<author>oakgrove</author>
	<datestamp>1246101840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep, that's definitely a bit cheaper than what I'm paying right now.  59 dollars a month for unlimited EVDO Rev. A data.  I'm not sure what 3.5G I(couldn't find a Wikipedia article, unlike 3 and 4g) is but my mobile speed isn't too bad.  </p><p>

Fortunately, I got grandfathered in on an unlimited plan.  I thought about getting one of the mifi adapters that you can share the connection with but fuck some 5GB limit.  I'll just stick with what I have TYVM.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , that 's definitely a bit cheaper than what I 'm paying right now .
59 dollars a month for unlimited EVDO Rev .
A data .
I 'm not sure what 3.5G I ( could n't find a Wikipedia article , unlike 3 and 4g ) is but my mobile speed is n't too bad .
Fortunately , I got grandfathered in on an unlimited plan .
I thought about getting one of the mifi adapters that you can share the connection with but fuck some 5GB limit .
I 'll just stick with what I have TYVM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, that's definitely a bit cheaper than what I'm paying right now.
59 dollars a month for unlimited EVDO Rev.
A data.
I'm not sure what 3.5G I(couldn't find a Wikipedia article, unlike 3 and 4g) is but my mobile speed isn't too bad.
Fortunately, I got grandfathered in on an unlimited plan.
I thought about getting one of the mifi adapters that you can share the connection with but fuck some 5GB limit.
I'll just stick with what I have TYVM.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28492893</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28500541</id>
	<title>Re:A Billing System Deficiency</title>
	<author>cgenman</author>
	<datestamp>1246120080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've heard the main problem is that the phone companies don't have moment-to-moment access to international billing.  So either they A: have explicit opt-in to international data (like the iPhone now has), B: let anyone run up whatever bill, and charge accordingly, C: pressure remote telcos to put hard limits on usage.  A only happened on the iPhone due to the highly public nature of that case, C hasn't happened so far.  Guess which option they have been going for?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've heard the main problem is that the phone companies do n't have moment-to-moment access to international billing .
So either they A : have explicit opt-in to international data ( like the iPhone now has ) , B : let anyone run up whatever bill , and charge accordingly , C : pressure remote telcos to put hard limits on usage .
A only happened on the iPhone due to the highly public nature of that case , C has n't happened so far .
Guess which option they have been going for ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've heard the main problem is that the phone companies don't have moment-to-moment access to international billing.
So either they A: have explicit opt-in to international data (like the iPhone now has), B: let anyone run up whatever bill, and charge accordingly, C: pressure remote telcos to put hard limits on usage.
A only happened on the iPhone due to the highly public nature of that case, C hasn't happened so far.
Guess which option they have been going for?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491373</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28503869</id>
	<title>Re:Okay, I'll bite...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246204860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>~12.87.... hmm let's take your 9,436,184KB and reduce it to Kilo\_bits\_.... that means multiplying it by 8.  75,489,472Kb.</p><p>75,489,472Kb *<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.015 cents = 1,132,342.08...  divide by 100 to get to dollars and it's $11,323.43</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>~ 12.87.... hmm let 's take your 9,436,184KB and reduce it to Kilo \ _bits \ _.... that means multiplying it by 8 .
75,489,472Kb.75,489,472Kb * .015 cents = 1,132,342.08... divide by 100 to get to dollars and it 's $ 11,323.43</tokentext>
<sentencetext>~12.87.... hmm let's take your 9,436,184KB and reduce it to Kilo\_bits\_.... that means multiplying it by 8.
75,489,472Kb.75,489,472Kb * .015 cents = 1,132,342.08...  divide by 100 to get to dollars and it's $11,323.43</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491229</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493403</id>
	<title>Re:.015 cents per kilobit</title>
	<author>IamTheRealMike</author>
	<datestamp>1246101420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder if it's actually impossible for him to have used 9G of data. If he had a wireless USB modem, is it possible he had it in all the time and assumed it wouldn't be in use if he wasn't browsing the web? If his machine has a bot on it, I bet it could chew through 9G of data no trouble and he'd never even know.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if it 's actually impossible for him to have used 9G of data .
If he had a wireless USB modem , is it possible he had it in all the time and assumed it would n't be in use if he was n't browsing the web ?
If his machine has a bot on it , I bet it could chew through 9G of data no trouble and he 'd never even know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if it's actually impossible for him to have used 9G of data.
If he had a wireless USB modem, is it possible he had it in all the time and assumed it wouldn't be in use if he wasn't browsing the web?
If his machine has a bot on it, I bet it could chew through 9G of data no trouble and he'd never even know.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491235</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28495519</id>
	<title>Re:these insane usage charges</title>
	<author>FrankieBaby1986</author>
	<datestamp>1246124160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tools-&gt;Options (or Edit-&gt;Preferences) <br> <br>

Then choose the content pane, and disable JS, images, w/e you like.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tools- &gt; Options ( or Edit- &gt; Preferences ) Then choose the content pane , and disable JS , images , w/e you like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tools-&gt;Options (or Edit-&gt;Preferences)  

Then choose the content pane, and disable JS, images, w/e you like.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491151</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28502581</id>
	<title>Re:A Billing System Deficiency</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246192080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope you like Verizon then.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope you like Verizon then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope you like Verizon then.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28495121</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490899</id>
	<title>Re:Lucky for them</title>
	<author>dubbayu\_d\_40</author>
	<datestamp>1246031520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For the rest of us, there's class action...</htmltext>
<tokenext>For the rest of us , there 's class action.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the rest of us, there's class action...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490691</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28492965</id>
	<title>Solution: prepaid international SIM card</title>
	<author>speedtux</author>
	<datestamp>1246095660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't use US carrier SIM cards for international travel: you get no cost control and high rates for data.</p><p>Your best bet is to get a local, prepaid SIM card.  In some countries, you can get day-by-day data subscriptions for a few bucks a day.</p><p>If you can't do that, your next best bet is to get an international prepaid SIM card.  Their rates are a little higher, but they are still fairly low, and they are fairly low across the entire globe.</p><p>Either way, you get cost control: they can't charge you more than you prepaid.</p><p>Search on Google; there are many companies offering this service.  Oh, and you need a GSM phone, preferably one that supports tethering.  Most Nokias running Symbian will work and you just plug them into your laptop and they work as a 3G modem; they also have good E-mail readers.</p><p>(Nokias are a bit old-fashioned in that they ask you for every Internet connection you make; normally, that's a nuisance, but for data roaming, it's great.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't use US carrier SIM cards for international travel : you get no cost control and high rates for data.Your best bet is to get a local , prepaid SIM card .
In some countries , you can get day-by-day data subscriptions for a few bucks a day.If you ca n't do that , your next best bet is to get an international prepaid SIM card .
Their rates are a little higher , but they are still fairly low , and they are fairly low across the entire globe.Either way , you get cost control : they ca n't charge you more than you prepaid.Search on Google ; there are many companies offering this service .
Oh , and you need a GSM phone , preferably one that supports tethering .
Most Nokias running Symbian will work and you just plug them into your laptop and they work as a 3G modem ; they also have good E-mail readers .
( Nokias are a bit old-fashioned in that they ask you for every Internet connection you make ; normally , that 's a nuisance , but for data roaming , it 's great .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't use US carrier SIM cards for international travel: you get no cost control and high rates for data.Your best bet is to get a local, prepaid SIM card.
In some countries, you can get day-by-day data subscriptions for a few bucks a day.If you can't do that, your next best bet is to get an international prepaid SIM card.
Their rates are a little higher, but they are still fairly low, and they are fairly low across the entire globe.Either way, you get cost control: they can't charge you more than you prepaid.Search on Google; there are many companies offering this service.
Oh, and you need a GSM phone, preferably one that supports tethering.
Most Nokias running Symbian will work and you just plug them into your laptop and they work as a 3G modem; they also have good E-mail readers.
(Nokias are a bit old-fashioned in that they ask you for every Internet connection you make; normally, that's a nuisance, but for data roaming, it's great.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490675</id>
	<title>Soz this mean we get a cellphone special now?</title>
	<author>Shadow of Eternity</author>
	<datestamp>1246028820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bust the all the myths that the companies quote about why they need to charge what they do, reliability, and especially that there is competition in the marketplace?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bust the all the myths that the companies quote about why they need to charge what they do , reliability , and especially that there is competition in the marketplace ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bust the all the myths that the companies quote about why they need to charge what they do, reliability, and especially that there is competition in the marketplace?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28505509</id>
	<title>Re:Only in the US...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246215600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>metropcs has like a $55 unlimited talk/text/data plan. I think boost mobile is putting one in place as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>metropcs has like a $ 55 unlimited talk/text/data plan .
I think boost mobile is putting one in place as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>metropcs has like a $55 unlimited talk/text/data plan.
I think boost mobile is putting one in place as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493207</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28494645</id>
	<title>Re:Only in the US...</title>
	<author>dbIII</author>
	<datestamp>1246117080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Only in the US do you have this insanity</p></div></blockquote><p>Not only in the USA - Sol Trujillo applied this in Australia when he ran Telstra, although Telstra was fairly insane before he got there.  It's the uncontrolled government mandated monopoly thing in action or cartel behaviour by the limited number of companies allowed to operate.  In either case there is such a barrier to entry that it is not possible for a new player to come in and undercut the incumbents.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Only in the US do you have this insanityNot only in the USA - Sol Trujillo applied this in Australia when he ran Telstra , although Telstra was fairly insane before he got there .
It 's the uncontrolled government mandated monopoly thing in action or cartel behaviour by the limited number of companies allowed to operate .
In either case there is such a barrier to entry that it is not possible for a new player to come in and undercut the incumbents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only in the US do you have this insanityNot only in the USA - Sol Trujillo applied this in Australia when he ran Telstra, although Telstra was fairly insane before he got there.
It's the uncontrolled government mandated monopoly thing in action or cartel behaviour by the limited number of companies allowed to operate.
In either case there is such a barrier to entry that it is not possible for a new player to come in and undercut the incumbents.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28493207</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28497111</id>
	<title>Re:Okay, I'll bite...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246093440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nothing to see here....Forget the "Penny and a half per kb" in the summary, of course that's bad unit conversion. At a rate of 0.015 cents/Kb, "15 one-thousandths of a cent per kilobit", or $0.00015/Kb, <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=9+GB+*+.015+cents\%2FKb" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">$11,000</a> [google.com] is the correct bill for 9 GB of information.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nothing to see here....Forget the " Penny and a half per kb " in the summary , of course that 's bad unit conversion .
At a rate of 0.015 cents/Kb , " 15 one-thousandths of a cent per kilobit " , or $ 0.00015/Kb , $ 11,000 [ google.com ] is the correct bill for 9 GB of information .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nothing to see here....Forget the "Penny and a half per kb" in the summary, of course that's bad unit conversion.
At a rate of 0.015 cents/Kb, "15 one-thousandths of a cent per kilobit", or $0.00015/Kb, $11,000 [google.com] is the correct bill for 9 GB of information.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28491229</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490941</id>
	<title>You're fucking stupid</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246031880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do you want to do this?</p><p>-- Linux-expert</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do you want to do this ? -- Linux-expert</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do you want to do this?-- Linux-expert</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_26_2356216.28490675</parent>
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