<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_25_1943232</id>
	<title>Middle-School Strip Search Ruled Unconstitutional</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1245918840000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>yuna49 writes <i>"The US Supreme Court today ruled 8-1 that the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/26/us/politics/26scotus.html?\_r=1&amp;hp">strip search of a 13-year-old girl by officials in an Arizona middle school was unconstitutional</a>.  However, by a vote of 7-2, the Court also ruled that the individual school officials could not be held personally liable.  A suit for damages against the school district itself is still going forward.  We <a href="//yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/24/1947221&amp;tid=123">discussed this case at length back in March</a> when the Court decided to hear the case on appeal."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>yuna49 writes " The US Supreme Court today ruled 8-1 that the strip search of a 13-year-old girl by officials in an Arizona middle school was unconstitutional .
However , by a vote of 7-2 , the Court also ruled that the individual school officials could not be held personally liable .
A suit for damages against the school district itself is still going forward .
We discussed this case at length back in March when the Court decided to hear the case on appeal .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yuna49 writes "The US Supreme Court today ruled 8-1 that the strip search of a 13-year-old girl by officials in an Arizona middle school was unconstitutional.
However, by a vote of 7-2, the Court also ruled that the individual school officials could not be held personally liable.
A suit for damages against the school district itself is still going forward.
We discussed this case at length back in March when the Court decided to hear the case on appeal.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471935</id>
	<title>News For Nerds How Exactly?!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245923040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is so obviously not an online rights issue.  And I would seriously doubt there is any significant portion of the readership of middle school age.</p><p>There's no reason for this story to be on slashdot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is so obviously not an online rights issue .
And I would seriously doubt there is any significant portion of the readership of middle school age.There 's no reason for this story to be on slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is so obviously not an online rights issue.
And I would seriously doubt there is any significant portion of the readership of middle school age.There's no reason for this story to be on slashdot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473115</id>
	<title>Strip searches for all!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245927180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What a bunch of whiners.  If you're innocent, you have nothing to hide.  Your so-called "privacy" is just an excuse for lawlessness.

</p><p>I'd say more, but I need to go.  I have a report that several senior cheerleaders at my school may be concealing... erm... something... something really bad.  Yes, that's it.  Something really bad.  They require strip searching immediately, for the safety of everyone!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What a bunch of whiners .
If you 're innocent , you have nothing to hide .
Your so-called " privacy " is just an excuse for lawlessness .
I 'd say more , but I need to go .
I have a report that several senior cheerleaders at my school may be concealing... erm... something... something really bad .
Yes , that 's it .
Something really bad .
They require strip searching immediately , for the safety of everyone !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a bunch of whiners.
If you're innocent, you have nothing to hide.
Your so-called "privacy" is just an excuse for lawlessness.
I'd say more, but I need to go.
I have a report that several senior cheerleaders at my school may be concealing... erm... something... something really bad.
Yes, that's it.
Something really bad.
They require strip searching immediately, for the safety of everyone!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473637</id>
	<title>Re:Qualified Immunity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245929640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>great.   the government is the largest employer.  with the most power.   an army of paper pushers who aren't liable for a goddamn thing they do.</p><p>the government has the power to execute you.  i execute someone, i get the death penalty or life.</p><p>the government has the power to steal.  i steal, i get fined or jailed.</p><p>the government has the power to strip search people.   i strip search someone, even my own kids, the fucking social services people will bring in swat.</p><p>the government gets unlimited strikes, and their employees get countless strikes.   i get three.</p><p>it's a sick fucking world.   this has been going on for decades, and bush punctuated it.  and obama is just carrying on the torch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>great .
the government is the largest employer .
with the most power .
an army of paper pushers who are n't liable for a goddamn thing they do.the government has the power to execute you .
i execute someone , i get the death penalty or life.the government has the power to steal .
i steal , i get fined or jailed.the government has the power to strip search people .
i strip search someone , even my own kids , the fucking social services people will bring in swat.the government gets unlimited strikes , and their employees get countless strikes .
i get three.it 's a sick fucking world .
this has been going on for decades , and bush punctuated it .
and obama is just carrying on the torch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>great.
the government is the largest employer.
with the most power.
an army of paper pushers who aren't liable for a goddamn thing they do.the government has the power to execute you.
i execute someone, i get the death penalty or life.the government has the power to steal.
i steal, i get fined or jailed.the government has the power to strip search people.
i strip search someone, even my own kids, the fucking social services people will bring in swat.the government gets unlimited strikes, and their employees get countless strikes.
i get three.it's a sick fucking world.
this has been going on for decades, and bush punctuated it.
and obama is just carrying on the torch.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472115</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473569</id>
	<title>Re:This is time to act.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245929280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>mple.<br>Find those responsible.<br>The school admins, the judges who OK'd it until it hit the supreme court...</p><p>Find out where they live, and discover every member of their immidaite family...<br>And then have nothing to do with them.<br>Do not buy nor sell them anything. Period.<br>Do not interact with any of them. Period.<br>If they were dying in a car crash, let them burn.</p><p>Because we all know they were wrong, but they not only do not, but can not. Even after being told they were wrong they still cannot acknowledge that they were wrong.<br>So, They MUST suffer the full effects of their ignorance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>mple.Find those responsible.The school admins , the judges who OK 'd it until it hit the supreme court...Find out where they live , and discover every member of their immidaite family...And then have nothing to do with them.Do not buy nor sell them anything .
Period.Do not interact with any of them .
Period.If they were dying in a car crash , let them burn.Because we all know they were wrong , but they not only do not , but can not .
Even after being told they were wrong they still can not acknowledge that they were wrong.So , They MUST suffer the full effects of their ignorance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mple.Find those responsible.The school admins, the judges who OK'd it until it hit the supreme court...Find out where they live, and discover every member of their immidaite family...And then have nothing to do with them.Do not buy nor sell them anything.
Period.Do not interact with any of them.
Period.If they were dying in a car crash, let them burn.Because we all know they were wrong, but they not only do not, but can not.
Even after being told they were wrong they still cannot acknowledge that they were wrong.So, They MUST suffer the full effects of their ignorance.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472653</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472451</id>
	<title>Re:And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>Pentium100</author>
	<datestamp>1245924660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>IBUPROFIN</p></div><p>What, you mean it is possible to get high on this? Where I live you can get it without prescription, I use it when my head hurts, works really well.</p><p>And they were strip-searching for it?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>IBUPROFINWhat , you mean it is possible to get high on this ?
Where I live you can get it without prescription , I use it when my head hurts , works really well.And they were strip-searching for it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IBUPROFINWhat, you mean it is possible to get high on this?
Where I live you can get it without prescription, I use it when my head hurts, works really well.And they were strip-searching for it?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471837</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28487609</id>
	<title>Re:Stop blaming the government and schools...</title>
	<author>DomNF15</author>
	<datestamp>1246007640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Would you like to review your argument and get back to us a little later?</p></div><p>
Sure. The administrators "did the search anyways" because there is already a precedent for kids bringing drugs/weapons into schools.  Would you like to conjecture why these items make it into schools and who is responsible for them getting there to begin with?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would you like to review your argument and get back to us a little later ?
Sure. The administrators " did the search anyways " because there is already a precedent for kids bringing drugs/weapons into schools .
Would you like to conjecture why these items make it into schools and who is responsible for them getting there to begin with ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would you like to review your argument and get back to us a little later?
Sure. The administrators "did the search anyways" because there is already a precedent for kids bringing drugs/weapons into schools.
Would you like to conjecture why these items make it into schools and who is responsible for them getting there to begin with?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473221</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28475207</id>
	<title>This won't work</title>
	<author>commodoresloat</author>
	<datestamp>1245935940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Look at the Tennessee case.  If they want to strip search your children they will just paste a picture of an adult's face over your kid's face.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look at the Tennessee case .
If they want to strip search your children they will just paste a picture of an adult 's face over your kid 's face .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look at the Tennessee case.
If they want to strip search your children they will just paste a picture of an adult's face over your kid's face.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472311</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473545</id>
	<title>Re:Qualified Immunity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245929160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The hypothetical person must know that his actions violated clearly established law, not that it was a bad idea.  Law, which in common law system such as ours, includes case law/precedent.  So the reasonable person would have to take that into account too.  Basically if I understand correctly, case law was over the place so much, that it was ruled that no reasonable person could not have started to understand the mess.  Some rulings saying yes, others saying no.  However, now... The Court has ruled clearly on the matter, so the next time, it will be more difficult to claim this immunity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The hypothetical person must know that his actions violated clearly established law , not that it was a bad idea .
Law , which in common law system such as ours , includes case law/precedent .
So the reasonable person would have to take that into account too .
Basically if I understand correctly , case law was over the place so much , that it was ruled that no reasonable person could not have started to understand the mess .
Some rulings saying yes , others saying no .
However , now... The Court has ruled clearly on the matter , so the next time , it will be more difficult to claim this immunity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The hypothetical person must know that his actions violated clearly established law, not that it was a bad idea.
Law, which in common law system such as ours, includes case law/precedent.
So the reasonable person would have to take that into account too.
Basically if I understand correctly, case law was over the place so much, that it was ruled that no reasonable person could not have started to understand the mess.
Some rulings saying yes, others saying no.
However, now... The Court has ruled clearly on the matter, so the next time, it will be more difficult to claim this immunity.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472337</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472231</id>
	<title>politicians and voters also share blame</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245923940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They are the ones that pushed to pass these zero-tolerance and no exception rules.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are the ones that pushed to pass these zero-tolerance and no exception rules .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are the ones that pushed to pass these zero-tolerance and no exception rules.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473105</id>
	<title>What happens now?</title>
	<author>Waste55</author>
	<datestamp>1245927180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So I guess I am ignorant on the subject, but what happens now? <br> <br>If the school officials are not held liable, is it merely "Yep. Her rights were violated. See you guys later." ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So I guess I am ignorant on the subject , but what happens now ?
If the school officials are not held liable , is it merely " Yep .
Her rights were violated .
See you guys later .
" ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I guess I am ignorant on the subject, but what happens now?
If the school officials are not held liable, is it merely "Yep.
Her rights were violated.
See you guys later.
" ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28475243</id>
	<title>Where to hide your drugs?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245936120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where to hide your drugs if you are in public K-12 schools in the USA?</p><p>The supreme court says, "keep them in your underwear, not your locker or book bag."</p><p>Good to know. Thanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where to hide your drugs if you are in public K-12 schools in the USA ? The supreme court says , " keep them in your underwear , not your locker or book bag .
" Good to know .
Thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where to hide your drugs if you are in public K-12 schools in the USA?The supreme court says, "keep them in your underwear, not your locker or book bag.
"Good to know.
Thanks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472413</id>
	<title>Public Servants -- !!!</title>
	<author>Pewpdaddy</author>
	<datestamp>1245924480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Two things,  there has to be a happy medium as to what is expected from school officials(these were obviously wrong).  1.) Administrators need to be able to search(strip searching is off the table IMO).  2.) If you think the kid has something(dangerous) hidden there should be a trained police officer on site aka School Resource Officer(SRO) who can make the call as to get the proper authorities involved.

Also I concur any administrator who thinks they have the right to strip search a 13yr old student should be pinned to the wall.  The extent of their all powerful positions is to expel pupils not strip search them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Two things , there has to be a happy medium as to what is expected from school officials ( these were obviously wrong ) .
1. ) Administrators need to be able to search ( strip searching is off the table IMO ) .
2. ) If you think the kid has something ( dangerous ) hidden there should be a trained police officer on site aka School Resource Officer ( SRO ) who can make the call as to get the proper authorities involved .
Also I concur any administrator who thinks they have the right to strip search a 13yr old student should be pinned to the wall .
The extent of their all powerful positions is to expel pupils not strip search them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two things,  there has to be a happy medium as to what is expected from school officials(these were obviously wrong).
1.) Administrators need to be able to search(strip searching is off the table IMO).
2.) If you think the kid has something(dangerous) hidden there should be a trained police officer on site aka School Resource Officer(SRO) who can make the call as to get the proper authorities involved.
Also I concur any administrator who thinks they have the right to strip search a 13yr old student should be pinned to the wall.
The extent of their all powerful positions is to expel pupils not strip search them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28475167</id>
	<title>Re:All I know is one thing...</title>
	<author>bnenning</author>
	<datestamp>1245935640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not if I was on the jury. People accidentally run face-first into blunt objects all the time, sounds like reasonable doubt to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not if I was on the jury .
People accidentally run face-first into blunt objects all the time , sounds like reasonable doubt to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not if I was on the jury.
People accidentally run face-first into blunt objects all the time, sounds like reasonable doubt to me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472153</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472081</id>
	<title>Another strike against personal responibility</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245923400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Some bad (illegal) stuff happened<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but none of the people that made the decisions that resulted in the bad stuff can be held responsible for their actions. WTF?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Some bad ( illegal ) stuff happened ... but none of the people that made the decisions that resulted in the bad stuff can be held responsible for their actions .
WTF ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some bad (illegal) stuff happened ... but none of the people that made the decisions that resulted in the bad stuff can be held responsible for their actions.
WTF?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472057</id>
	<title>Re:And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>qbzzt</author>
	<datestamp>1245923340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I can't imagine how forcing a 13-year old girl to strip ensures anyone's health and safety,</i></p><p>If they were looking for something really dangerous, on the basis of credible evidence, I'd be the first to applaud them. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military\_use\_of\_children" title="wikipedia.org">It sucks, but kids have been used for fighting before</a> [wikipedia.org].</p><p>However, in this case they were just enforcing a "zero common sense" policy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't imagine how forcing a 13-year old girl to strip ensures anyone 's health and safety,If they were looking for something really dangerous , on the basis of credible evidence , I 'd be the first to applaud them .
It sucks , but kids have been used for fighting before [ wikipedia.org ] .However , in this case they were just enforcing a " zero common sense " policy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't imagine how forcing a 13-year old girl to strip ensures anyone's health and safety,If they were looking for something really dangerous, on the basis of credible evidence, I'd be the first to applaud them.
It sucks, but kids have been used for fighting before [wikipedia.org].However, in this case they were just enforcing a "zero common sense" policy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471837</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472033</id>
	<title>Re:And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>Bigby</author>
	<datestamp>1245923340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I didn't know the 4th amendment of the Constitution gave an exception for health and safety.  How can a person who is charged with the sole responsibility of interpreting the Constitution add his own words?  Does he interpret a "reasonable search" as one that has to do with health and safety?  Wouldn't that encompass all searches?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't know the 4th amendment of the Constitution gave an exception for health and safety .
How can a person who is charged with the sole responsibility of interpreting the Constitution add his own words ?
Does he interpret a " reasonable search " as one that has to do with health and safety ?
Would n't that encompass all searches ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't know the 4th amendment of the Constitution gave an exception for health and safety.
How can a person who is charged with the sole responsibility of interpreting the Constitution add his own words?
Does he interpret a "reasonable search" as one that has to do with health and safety?
Wouldn't that encompass all searches?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471837</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472735</id>
	<title>Re:Well...</title>
	<author>inject\_hotmail.com</author>
	<datestamp>1245925740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You get love from pictures?<p>
What made you think they would post pictures of the girl, anyway?  Have some respect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You get love from pictures ?
What made you think they would post pictures of the girl , anyway ?
Have some respect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You get love from pictures?
What made you think they would post pictures of the girl, anyway?
Have some respect.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471857</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472801</id>
	<title>Re:My Rights Online?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245925980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Because now we know that we can store torrents and pirated files in children's underpants (aka UnderWarez)"</p><p>Wouldn't that make any adult files stored on those drives automatically into childpr0n?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Because now we know that we can store torrents and pirated files in children 's underpants ( aka UnderWarez ) " Would n't that make any adult files stored on those drives automatically into childpr0n ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Because now we know that we can store torrents and pirated files in children's underpants (aka UnderWarez)"Wouldn't that make any adult files stored on those drives automatically into childpr0n?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472311</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473991</id>
	<title>Not to defend them, but ...</title>
	<author>EmmDashNine</author>
	<datestamp>1245931080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not saying that what they did is right, or warranted for the situation;  they handled it very poorly.  But in this day an age where lawsuits or fear of them restrict most into inaction when it comes to a gray area like this, you almost have to admire their gumption- that is if it was not instead complete stupidity.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not saying that what they did is right , or warranted for the situation ; they handled it very poorly .
But in this day an age where lawsuits or fear of them restrict most into inaction when it comes to a gray area like this , you almost have to admire their gumption- that is if it was not instead complete stupidity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not saying that what they did is right, or warranted for the situation;  they handled it very poorly.
But in this day an age where lawsuits or fear of them restrict most into inaction when it comes to a gray area like this, you almost have to admire their gumption- that is if it was not instead complete stupidity.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472047</id>
	<title>Re:My Rights Online?</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1245923340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They posted pics of the whole thing online.  I would have sued about that too, but then again, they were suprisingly tasteful.  I mean, she did use one of them as her yearbook photo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They posted pics of the whole thing online .
I would have sued about that too , but then again , they were suprisingly tasteful .
I mean , she did use one of them as her yearbook photo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They posted pics of the whole thing online.
I would have sued about that too, but then again, they were suprisingly tasteful.
I mean, she did use one of them as her yearbook photo.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471759</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472105</id>
	<title>Re:My Rights Online?</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1245923520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was reported on line.. perhaps that is how low the bar is now?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was reported on line.. perhaps that is how low the bar is now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was reported on line.. perhaps that is how low the bar is now?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471759</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473413</id>
	<title>Re:News For Nerds How Exactly?!!!</title>
	<author>SandiConoverJones</author>
	<datestamp>1245928620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Slashdotters can't care about government run amok?<p>
Slashdotters can't be old enough to be parents?</p><p>
Even if you still live with your mom doesn't mean that other Slashdotters didn't grow up!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdotters ca n't care about government run amok ?
Slashdotters ca n't be old enough to be parents ?
Even if you still live with your mom does n't mean that other Slashdotters did n't grow up !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdotters can't care about government run amok?
Slashdotters can't be old enough to be parents?
Even if you still live with your mom doesn't mean that other Slashdotters didn't grow up!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471935</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473577</id>
	<title>Re:And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>Fulcrum of Evil</author>
	<datestamp>1245929280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Excuse me, but when did school admins get police powers?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Excuse me , but when did school admins get police powers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Excuse me, but when did school admins get police powers?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472317</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472979</id>
	<title>Re:For once, read TFA.</title>
	<author>californication</author>
	<datestamp>1245926700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree.  It appears the mistake the administrators made was not strip searching the girl, but saying that the reason they were strip searching her was because they suspected she had an OTC pain killer.  Had they said they strip searched her because they suspected she had crack, it probably would have been constitutional.</p><p>So if you ever want a fresh whiff of a young girls panties and work in a school, just say you suspect she has crack and strip away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
It appears the mistake the administrators made was not strip searching the girl , but saying that the reason they were strip searching her was because they suspected she had an OTC pain killer .
Had they said they strip searched her because they suspected she had crack , it probably would have been constitutional.So if you ever want a fresh whiff of a young girls panties and work in a school , just say you suspect she has crack and strip away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
It appears the mistake the administrators made was not strip searching the girl, but saying that the reason they were strip searching her was because they suspected she had an OTC pain killer.
Had they said they strip searched her because they suspected she had crack, it probably would have been constitutional.So if you ever want a fresh whiff of a young girls panties and work in a school, just say you suspect she has crack and strip away.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471943</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28479841</id>
	<title>Re:Never has the suddenoutbreakofcommonsense tag f</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1246017240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> German libertarians are only pro civil rights when they are in the opposition</p></div><p>Libertarians are never in favour of civil rights, they are against civil rights being violated by a government.  Individuals, corporations, religions, or any other non-governmental power structures violating rights is absolutely fine with Libertarians because, apparently, you have a choice (while, apparently, you don't have a choice about your government).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>German libertarians are only pro civil rights when they are in the oppositionLibertarians are never in favour of civil rights , they are against civil rights being violated by a government .
Individuals , corporations , religions , or any other non-governmental power structures violating rights is absolutely fine with Libertarians because , apparently , you have a choice ( while , apparently , you do n't have a choice about your government ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> German libertarians are only pro civil rights when they are in the oppositionLibertarians are never in favour of civil rights, they are against civil rights being violated by a government.
Individuals, corporations, religions, or any other non-governmental power structures violating rights is absolutely fine with Libertarians because, apparently, you have a choice (while, apparently, you don't have a choice about your government).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472267</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471933</id>
	<title>Ibuprofen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245923040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>TFA says they were looking for "prescription-strength drugs", but in fact <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8119392.stm" title="bbc.co.uk">they were looking for ibuprofen</a> [bbc.co.uk], a relatively safe, over-the-counter analgesic. Basically they strip searched her on suspection of carrying aspirin. And she didn't even have the drug in her possession!</htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA says they were looking for " prescription-strength drugs " , but in fact they were looking for ibuprofen [ bbc.co.uk ] , a relatively safe , over-the-counter analgesic .
Basically they strip searched her on suspection of carrying aspirin .
And she did n't even have the drug in her possession !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA says they were looking for "prescription-strength drugs", but in fact they were looking for ibuprofen [bbc.co.uk], a relatively safe, over-the-counter analgesic.
Basically they strip searched her on suspection of carrying aspirin.
And she didn't even have the drug in her possession!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28477597</id>
	<title>Re:Whos the oddball</title>
	<author>Corbets</author>
	<datestamp>1245952620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd tell you, but I like to encourage at least clicking the link through to articles referenced on Slashdot....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd tell you , but I like to encourage at least clicking the link through to articles referenced on Slashdot... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd tell you, but I like to encourage at least clicking the link through to articles referenced on Slashdot....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472251</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473739</id>
	<title>Re:Qualified Immunity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245930060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>sorry to drag the Nazi's into this, but I'm damn glad they hadn't figured that out by the time of the Nuremberg trails.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>sorry to drag the Nazi 's into this , but I 'm damn glad they had n't figured that out by the time of the Nuremberg trails .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sorry to drag the Nazi's into this, but I'm damn glad they hadn't figured that out by the time of the Nuremberg trails.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472115</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28478569</id>
	<title>Re:For once, read TFA.</title>
	<author>mabhatter654</author>
	<datestamp>1246047540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thomas is just toeing the party line.  The suspected material is relatively harmless and simply sequestering her in a room and a simple pat-down would have been enough without parent intervention.</p><p>If the suspected item was any bigger than a few pills or "dimebag" of drugs then a simple pat-down would identify presence of the item and the kids could be ordered to remove it.  That pretty much covers Knives, bombs, guns, etc. in all "reasonable" cases. At the point you're at "dangerous" material that can harm students beyond putting the offending student in a room by themself, then you're really in police territory as your invading body cavities, stripping naked, or dealing with dangerous objects or assaulting children.</p><p>The big part of the case not being said is that "if we call the police" then the school staff "must" press charges and suspend/expel the student while charges are pending.. whatever they can make stick.... That's what they use to silence the parents in many cases so they don't sue for such behavior.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thomas is just toeing the party line .
The suspected material is relatively harmless and simply sequestering her in a room and a simple pat-down would have been enough without parent intervention.If the suspected item was any bigger than a few pills or " dimebag " of drugs then a simple pat-down would identify presence of the item and the kids could be ordered to remove it .
That pretty much covers Knives , bombs , guns , etc .
in all " reasonable " cases .
At the point you 're at " dangerous " material that can harm students beyond putting the offending student in a room by themself , then you 're really in police territory as your invading body cavities , stripping naked , or dealing with dangerous objects or assaulting children.The big part of the case not being said is that " if we call the police " then the school staff " must " press charges and suspend/expel the student while charges are pending.. whatever they can make stick.... That 's what they use to silence the parents in many cases so they do n't sue for such behavior .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thomas is just toeing the party line.
The suspected material is relatively harmless and simply sequestering her in a room and a simple pat-down would have been enough without parent intervention.If the suspected item was any bigger than a few pills or "dimebag" of drugs then a simple pat-down would identify presence of the item and the kids could be ordered to remove it.
That pretty much covers Knives, bombs, guns, etc.
in all "reasonable" cases.
At the point you're at "dangerous" material that can harm students beyond putting the offending student in a room by themself, then you're really in police territory as your invading body cavities, stripping naked, or dealing with dangerous objects or assaulting children.The big part of the case not being said is that "if we call the police" then the school staff "must" press charges and suspend/expel the student while charges are pending.. whatever they can make stick.... That's what they use to silence the parents in many cases so they don't sue for such behavior.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471943</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472681</id>
	<title>Re:Never has the suddenoutbreakofcommonsense tag f</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1245925560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> Even in the USSR - which most slashdotters associate with complete absence of civil rights - a strip search of a teen girl by a school official never could have happened.</p></div></blockquote><p>I totally agree.  Given the transparency and openness of the Soviet system, it's 20 gaziliion trillion percent sure that if it had happened, we'd all know about it.</p><p>And Russia still pwnz everyone at libert[eh|ai|&eacute;] and all that shite.  I mean, nosy journalists would never be assassinated by agents of the state.  And even if they did, there'd never be a rigged trial to let the culprits walk away Scot-free.</p><p>Now some might say that you communidiots are as bad as the libertards, and that it would be a most excellent idea to drop you all in some irrelevant and expendable place like Somalia, Belgium or Detroit and let you slug it out, all on prime time TV.  Ignore them; they're capitalist running pig-dogs, all of them, and they'll be first against the wall when the revolution comes.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even in the USSR - which most slashdotters associate with complete absence of civil rights - a strip search of a teen girl by a school official never could have happened.I totally agree .
Given the transparency and openness of the Soviet system , it 's 20 gaziliion trillion percent sure that if it had happened , we 'd all know about it.And Russia still pwnz everyone at libert [ eh | ai |   ] and all that shite .
I mean , nosy journalists would never be assassinated by agents of the state .
And even if they did , there 'd never be a rigged trial to let the culprits walk away Scot-free.Now some might say that you communidiots are as bad as the libertards , and that it would be a most excellent idea to drop you all in some irrelevant and expendable place like Somalia , Belgium or Detroit and let you slug it out , all on prime time TV .
Ignore them ; they 're capitalist running pig-dogs , all of them , and they 'll be first against the wall when the revolution comes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Even in the USSR - which most slashdotters associate with complete absence of civil rights - a strip search of a teen girl by a school official never could have happened.I totally agree.
Given the transparency and openness of the Soviet system, it's 20 gaziliion trillion percent sure that if it had happened, we'd all know about it.And Russia still pwnz everyone at libert[eh|ai|é] and all that shite.
I mean, nosy journalists would never be assassinated by agents of the state.
And even if they did, there'd never be a rigged trial to let the culprits walk away Scot-free.Now some might say that you communidiots are as bad as the libertards, and that it would be a most excellent idea to drop you all in some irrelevant and expendable place like Somalia, Belgium or Detroit and let you slug it out, all on prime time TV.
Ignore them; they're capitalist running pig-dogs, all of them, and they'll be first against the wall when the revolution comes.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472267</id>
	<title>Re:Never has the suddenoutbreakofcommonsense tag f</title>
	<author>dunkelfalke</author>
	<datestamp>1245924060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has nothing to do with being libertarian. Even in the USSR - which most slashdotters associate with complete absence of civil rights - a strip search of a teen girl by a school official never could have happened.</p><p>P.S. just for your information, the only two parties here in Germany really acting for civil rights are the pirate party and the communists. German libertarians are only pro civil rights when they are in the opposition. When they are in the ruling coalition they happily stamp civil rights to the ground.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has nothing to do with being libertarian .
Even in the USSR - which most slashdotters associate with complete absence of civil rights - a strip search of a teen girl by a school official never could have happened.P.S .
just for your information , the only two parties here in Germany really acting for civil rights are the pirate party and the communists .
German libertarians are only pro civil rights when they are in the opposition .
When they are in the ruling coalition they happily stamp civil rights to the ground .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has nothing to do with being libertarian.
Even in the USSR - which most slashdotters associate with complete absence of civil rights - a strip search of a teen girl by a school official never could have happened.P.S.
just for your information, the only two parties here in Germany really acting for civil rights are the pirate party and the communists.
German libertarians are only pro civil rights when they are in the opposition.
When they are in the ruling coalition they happily stamp civil rights to the ground.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472153</id>
	<title>All I know is one thing...</title>
	<author>Jaysyn</author>
	<datestamp>1245923640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... if I was her brother or father I'd probably *still* be in jail for assault.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... if I was her brother or father I 'd probably * still * be in jail for assault .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... if I was her brother or father I'd probably *still* be in jail for assault.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473883</id>
	<title>Re:Whos the oddball</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245930660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Careful--somebody in the US was recently thrown in jail for similar comments about some judges...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Careful--somebody in the US was recently thrown in jail for similar comments about some judges.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Careful--somebody in the US was recently thrown in jail for similar comments about some judges...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473705</id>
	<title>So let me get this straight...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245929940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's cool if I forcibly strip-search a 13 year-old girl as long as I'm a school official working on "official business." I can't be held accountable.<br> <br>

But if that same girl willingly texts me a cellphone pic of herself in a bikini, I'm looking at time in hard prison and branded a sex offender for life.<br> <br>

Seems perfectly logical to me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's cool if I forcibly strip-search a 13 year-old girl as long as I 'm a school official working on " official business .
" I ca n't be held accountable .
But if that same girl willingly texts me a cellphone pic of herself in a bikini , I 'm looking at time in hard prison and branded a sex offender for life .
Seems perfectly logical to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's cool if I forcibly strip-search a 13 year-old girl as long as I'm a school official working on "official business.
" I can't be held accountable.
But if that same girl willingly texts me a cellphone pic of herself in a bikini, I'm looking at time in hard prison and branded a sex offender for life.
Seems perfectly logical to me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471999</id>
	<title>Re:And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245923280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Clarence Thomas, who 'asserted that the majority's finding second-guesses the measures that educators take to maintain discipline "and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge."'</p><p>I can't imagine how forcing a 13-year old girl to strip ensures anyone's health and safety, especially since they were looking for IBUPROFIN, for heaven's sake.</p></div><p>The majority agrees with that part.  From TFA:</p><p><div class="quote"><p> <b>Had Savana been suspected of having illegal drugs that could have posed a far greater danger to herself and other students, the strip search, too, might have been justified,</b> the majority said, in an opinion by Justice David H. Souter.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Clarence Thomas , who 'asserted that the majority 's finding second-guesses the measures that educators take to maintain discipline " and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge .
" 'I ca n't imagine how forcing a 13-year old girl to strip ensures anyone 's health and safety , especially since they were looking for IBUPROFIN , for heaven 's sake.The majority agrees with that part .
From TFA : Had Savana been suspected of having illegal drugs that could have posed a far greater danger to herself and other students , the strip search , too , might have been justified , the majority said , in an opinion by Justice David H. Souter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clarence Thomas, who 'asserted that the majority's finding second-guesses the measures that educators take to maintain discipline "and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge.
"'I can't imagine how forcing a 13-year old girl to strip ensures anyone's health and safety, especially since they were looking for IBUPROFIN, for heaven's sake.The majority agrees with that part.
From TFA: Had Savana been suspected of having illegal drugs that could have posed a far greater danger to herself and other students, the strip search, too, might have been justified, the majority said, in an opinion by Justice David H. Souter.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28475667</id>
	<title>Re:All I know is one thing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245938460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And if I were on your jury, I'd jury nullify the charges. Sometimes stupid people just need an ass whooping. And I don't mean a few bruises. I'd let a broken bone or two slide.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And if I were on your jury , I 'd jury nullify the charges .
Sometimes stupid people just need an ass whooping .
And I do n't mean a few bruises .
I 'd let a broken bone or two slide .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if I were on your jury, I'd jury nullify the charges.
Sometimes stupid people just need an ass whooping.
And I don't mean a few bruises.
I'd let a broken bone or two slide.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472153</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472019</id>
	<title>Clarence Thomas's Copy of the Constitution</title>
	<author>scruffy</author>
	<datestamp>1245923340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does he have the same copy as the rest of us?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does he have the same copy as the rest of us ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does he have the same copy as the rest of us?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472625</id>
	<title>Re:News For Nerds How Exactly?!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245925320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A lot of nerds really like perscription Ibuprofen and are worried they'll be strip searched if they use it.</p></div><p>Worried or hopeful?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A lot of nerds really like perscription Ibuprofen and are worried they 'll be strip searched if they use it.Worried or hopeful ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lot of nerds really like perscription Ibuprofen and are worried they'll be strip searched if they use it.Worried or hopeful?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472121</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28483961</id>
	<title>Re:Qualified Immunity</title>
	<author>Just Some Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1246035840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Here in the US, public schools are typically surrounded by barbed wire, and not a small number have metal detectors at the doors.</p></div><p>Correction: <em>there, where <b>you</b> are in the US</em>.  My kids' public school is surrounded by a few acres of grassy playground, that being surrounded by trees.  When I need to bring them something at school, I walk through the unlocked front doors, wave at the secretary, and meander on back to their classrooms.</p><p>Of course, I'm one of the crazy people who doesn't see living in dense urban settings as inherently better than living in a small community.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here in the US , public schools are typically surrounded by barbed wire , and not a small number have metal detectors at the doors.Correction : there , where you are in the US .
My kids ' public school is surrounded by a few acres of grassy playground , that being surrounded by trees .
When I need to bring them something at school , I walk through the unlocked front doors , wave at the secretary , and meander on back to their classrooms.Of course , I 'm one of the crazy people who does n't see living in dense urban settings as inherently better than living in a small community .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here in the US, public schools are typically surrounded by barbed wire, and not a small number have metal detectors at the doors.Correction: there, where you are in the US.
My kids' public school is surrounded by a few acres of grassy playground, that being surrounded by trees.
When I need to bring them something at school, I walk through the unlocked front doors, wave at the secretary, and meander on back to their classrooms.Of course, I'm one of the crazy people who doesn't see living in dense urban settings as inherently better than living in a small community.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28474039</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28474409</id>
	<title>Stevens rips into Thomas</title>
	<author>snsh</author>
	<datestamp>1245932520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did Stevens have Thomas in mind when he wrote "it does not require a constitutional scholar to conclude that a nude search of a 13-year-old child is an invasion of constitutional rights of some magnitude.&#226;<br> <br>
When Thomas was nominated to Brennan's seat, the biggest complaint I remember was not Anita Hill or his ideology, but his skills.  To be on the Supreme Court ou're supposed to be a scholar.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did Stevens have Thomas in mind when he wrote " it does not require a constitutional scholar to conclude that a nude search of a 13-year-old child is an invasion of constitutional rights of some magnitude.   When Thomas was nominated to Brennan 's seat , the biggest complaint I remember was not Anita Hill or his ideology , but his skills .
To be on the Supreme Court ou 're supposed to be a scholar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did Stevens have Thomas in mind when he wrote "it does not require a constitutional scholar to conclude that a nude search of a 13-year-old child is an invasion of constitutional rights of some magnitude.â 
When Thomas was nominated to Brennan's seat, the biggest complaint I remember was not Anita Hill or his ideology, but his skills.
To be on the Supreme Court ou're supposed to be a scholar.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472401</id>
	<title>Re:Ibuprofen</title>
	<author>hardburn</author>
	<datestamp>1245924480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>High dosages generally do need a prescription, so TFA is technically correct. I don't find that a particularly compelling reason for a strip search, though, and certainly not by a school administrator because of an allegation from another student. Call the girl's parents' or the cops if you must.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>High dosages generally do need a prescription , so TFA is technically correct .
I do n't find that a particularly compelling reason for a strip search , though , and certainly not by a school administrator because of an allegation from another student .
Call the girl 's parents ' or the cops if you must .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>High dosages generally do need a prescription, so TFA is technically correct.
I don't find that a particularly compelling reason for a strip search, though, and certainly not by a school administrator because of an allegation from another student.
Call the girl's parents' or the cops if you must.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471933</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28485417</id>
	<title>Re:Qualified Immunity</title>
	<author>VxMorpheusxV</author>
	<datestamp>1246041240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not to sound ignorant, as I know my community is not the norm, but is this true?  I grew up on Long Island and have never seen such a school.  I know there are such measures in some city schools, but is it really "typical" of public schools in the U.S to have barbed wire and metal detectors?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to sound ignorant , as I know my community is not the norm , but is this true ?
I grew up on Long Island and have never seen such a school .
I know there are such measures in some city schools , but is it really " typical " of public schools in the U.S to have barbed wire and metal detectors ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to sound ignorant, as I know my community is not the norm, but is this true?
I grew up on Long Island and have never seen such a school.
I know there are such measures in some city schools, but is it really "typical" of public schools in the U.S to have barbed wire and metal detectors?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28474039</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471851</id>
	<title>Too Bad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245922920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm a middle school principal who likes to finger my students.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a middle school principal who likes to finger my students .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a middle school principal who likes to finger my students.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472337</id>
	<title>Re:Qualified Immunity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245924300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Pardon the pontificating from a bystanding Brit who is by no means as knowledgeable on your Constitution as he should be, but reading TFWA, I note the test is the usual one of a hypothetical "reasonable person".  I might not be reasonable all the time, but I'm pretty sure if I was asked to strip-search a 13 year old girl, loco parentis or not, I would be reasonably sure it would be a bad idea.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pardon the pontificating from a bystanding Brit who is by no means as knowledgeable on your Constitution as he should be , but reading TFWA , I note the test is the usual one of a hypothetical " reasonable person " .
I might not be reasonable all the time , but I 'm pretty sure if I was asked to strip-search a 13 year old girl , loco parentis or not , I would be reasonably sure it would be a bad idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pardon the pontificating from a bystanding Brit who is by no means as knowledgeable on your Constitution as he should be, but reading TFWA, I note the test is the usual one of a hypothetical "reasonable person".
I might not be reasonable all the time, but I'm pretty sure if I was asked to strip-search a 13 year old girl, loco parentis or not, I would be reasonably sure it would be a bad idea.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472115</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28482183</id>
	<title>APPLAUSE FOR THE USSC.</title>
	<author>gbutler69</author>
	<datestamp>1246030380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thank you, once again, for showing us that our system eventually works and that we do have some sanity at the highest levels of government. I give my greatest applause to this decision and am thankful I live in a country where a decision like this is made!

</p><p>
Here's to America!

</p><p>
As an aside, for all those out there who think the Federal government doesn't and can't play a role because everything should be governed by "The Locals" here is a prime example of why that just isn't good enough. Now, Fuck Off!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank you , once again , for showing us that our system eventually works and that we do have some sanity at the highest levels of government .
I give my greatest applause to this decision and am thankful I live in a country where a decision like this is made !
Here 's to America !
As an aside , for all those out there who think the Federal government does n't and ca n't play a role because everything should be governed by " The Locals " here is a prime example of why that just is n't good enough .
Now , Fuck Off !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank you, once again, for showing us that our system eventually works and that we do have some sanity at the highest levels of government.
I give my greatest applause to this decision and am thankful I live in a country where a decision like this is made!
Here's to America!
As an aside, for all those out there who think the Federal government doesn't and can't play a role because everything should be governed by "The Locals" here is a prime example of why that just isn't good enough.
Now, Fuck Off!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471731</id>
	<title>This is America</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245922500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is America, where children are the Enemy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is America , where children are the Enemy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is America, where children are the Enemy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472459</id>
	<title>Alito found a search he didn't like</title>
	<author>snsh</author>
	<datestamp>1245924720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm stunned that Sam Alito did not dissent.  But I suppose his claim-to-fame is never finding a police-search that he didn't like.  Since the search was conducted by a nurse and not the police, his record remains untarnished.<br> <br>
Although what if they actually did find drugs in the girl's underwear.  Would Alito overturn the search then?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm stunned that Sam Alito did not dissent .
But I suppose his claim-to-fame is never finding a police-search that he did n't like .
Since the search was conducted by a nurse and not the police , his record remains untarnished .
Although what if they actually did find drugs in the girl 's underwear .
Would Alito overturn the search then ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm stunned that Sam Alito did not dissent.
But I suppose his claim-to-fame is never finding a police-search that he didn't like.
Since the search was conducted by a nurse and not the police, his record remains untarnished.
Although what if they actually did find drugs in the girl's underwear.
Would Alito overturn the search then?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28477733</id>
	<title>Re:Qualified Immunity</title>
	<author>Bryan Gividen</author>
	<datestamp>1245953820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I honestly haven't looked at the detailed facts of the case so I can't say whether or not I disagree with you or not. I'm just citing the reason given by the Justices.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I honestly have n't looked at the detailed facts of the case so I ca n't say whether or not I disagree with you or not .
I 'm just citing the reason given by the Justices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I honestly haven't looked at the detailed facts of the case so I can't say whether or not I disagree with you or not.
I'm just citing the reason given by the Justices.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472337</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473411</id>
	<title>Re:sue the school?</title>
	<author>ramsejc</author>
	<datestamp>1245928620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Perhaps the cake was white when they hid it in their undergarments and all of this attention scared them into changing it's color to yellow?

I know, it's a bad joke. It's been a long day.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps the cake was white when they hid it in their undergarments and all of this attention scared them into changing it 's color to yellow ?
I know , it 's a bad joke .
It 's been a long day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps the cake was white when they hid it in their undergarments and all of this attention scared them into changing it's color to yellow?
I know, it's a bad joke.
It's been a long day.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471831</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28478381</id>
	<title>Re:And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>mabhatter654</author>
	<datestamp>1245959640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>at the point they take the student to another room and sequester (problem of transfering contraband or hurting others handled) them until they decide to call the parents to deal with their child at home, or in the case of something blatantly illegal, call the police who we pay to do that job.  Most school districts have liaison officers that is there for just this reason. Of course they'll put the search request with staff's name on school record, and eventually they'll know when the staff is full of BS.</p><p>Gotta ask, when is a strip search of a minor in a public place not justification for involving police?  Just to CYA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>at the point they take the student to another room and sequester ( problem of transfering contraband or hurting others handled ) them until they decide to call the parents to deal with their child at home , or in the case of something blatantly illegal , call the police who we pay to do that job .
Most school districts have liaison officers that is there for just this reason .
Of course they 'll put the search request with staff 's name on school record , and eventually they 'll know when the staff is full of BS.Got ta ask , when is a strip search of a minor in a public place not justification for involving police ?
Just to CYA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>at the point they take the student to another room and sequester (problem of transfering contraband or hurting others handled) them until they decide to call the parents to deal with their child at home, or in the case of something blatantly illegal, call the police who we pay to do that job.
Most school districts have liaison officers that is there for just this reason.
Of course they'll put the search request with staff's name on school record, and eventually they'll know when the staff is full of BS.Gotta ask, when is a strip search of a minor in a public place not justification for involving police?
Just to CYA.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472057</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28477387</id>
	<title>Yes... but no.</title>
	<author>cryogenix</author>
	<datestamp>1245950520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My problem with this decision is this:  They violated the girls rights (which thankfully SCOTUS recognized).  There is however no punishment for doing so.

Will the next school go ahead and do the same thinking there will be no consequences?  What's the point of having rights, if they can be violated at will, and the only thing that happens to the violator is that they are told they shouldn't have done that?</htmltext>
<tokenext>My problem with this decision is this : They violated the girls rights ( which thankfully SCOTUS recognized ) .
There is however no punishment for doing so .
Will the next school go ahead and do the same thinking there will be no consequences ?
What 's the point of having rights , if they can be violated at will , and the only thing that happens to the violator is that they are told they should n't have done that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My problem with this decision is this:  They violated the girls rights (which thankfully SCOTUS recognized).
There is however no punishment for doing so.
Will the next school go ahead and do the same thinking there will be no consequences?
What's the point of having rights, if they can be violated at will, and the only thing that happens to the violator is that they are told they shouldn't have done that?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472653</id>
	<title>This is time to act.</title>
	<author>delirium of disorder</author>
	<datestamp>1245925380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Court also ruled that the individual school officials could not be held personally liable</i>
<br>
If the courts won't hold them liable, than the people must!  If the administrators responsible don't quit, than the students need to go on strike.  How can anyone consent to their peers being abused in this manner?!?!?  It's time parents, teachers, and students stand up for each other and demand that the administration step down.  These pigs are either power hungry megalomaniacs or contributor to sexual assault (or both).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Court also ruled that the individual school officials could not be held personally liable If the courts wo n't hold them liable , than the people must !
If the administrators responsible do n't quit , than the students need to go on strike .
How can anyone consent to their peers being abused in this manner ? ! ? ! ?
It 's time parents , teachers , and students stand up for each other and demand that the administration step down .
These pigs are either power hungry megalomaniacs or contributor to sexual assault ( or both ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Court also ruled that the individual school officials could not be held personally liable

If the courts won't hold them liable, than the people must!
If the administrators responsible don't quit, than the students need to go on strike.
How can anyone consent to their peers being abused in this manner?!?!?
It's time parents, teachers, and students stand up for each other and demand that the administration step down.
These pigs are either power hungry megalomaniacs or contributor to sexual assault (or both).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472471</id>
	<title>Shool officials</title>
	<author>xednieht</author>
	<datestamp>1245924720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>the new Catholic priests.</htmltext>
<tokenext>the new Catholic priests .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the new Catholic priests.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472251</id>
	<title>Whos the oddball</title>
	<author>BigJClark</author>
	<datestamp>1245924060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>
That voted, that yes, this was constitutional?
<br> <br>
This person should be tarred and feathered.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That voted , that yes , this was constitutional ?
This person should be tarred and feathered .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
That voted, that yes, this was constitutional?
This person should be tarred and feathered.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472311</id>
	<title>Re:My Rights Online?</title>
	<author>CorporateSuit</author>
	<datestamp>1245924240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because now we know that we can store torrents and pirated files in children's underpants (aka UnderWarez) that cannot, constitutionally, be searched by their school administrations.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because now we know that we can store torrents and pirated files in children 's underpants ( aka UnderWarez ) that can not , constitutionally , be searched by their school administrations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because now we know that we can store torrents and pirated files in children's underpants (aka UnderWarez) that cannot, constitutionally, be searched by their school administrations.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471759</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28474095</id>
	<title>Logical conclusion...</title>
	<author>maugle</author>
	<datestamp>1245931500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Justice Clarence Thomas was the only member of the court to conclude that the strip search of Savana Redding did not violate the Fourth Amendment. He asserted that the majority's finding second-guesses the measures that educators take to maintain discipline "and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge."</p></div><p>
<b>5 years from now:</b>  To ensure the health and safety of students and faculty, all children must attend school <i>in the nude</i>.  In addition, the principal will going the extra mile in ensuring the safety and security of our precious children by taking pictures of them and posting them on his website for... <i>review</i>... by various experts.  His site, he claims, will have a very reasonable monthly access fee and discreet billing.  And Justice Thomas gets in free.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Justice Clarence Thomas was the only member of the court to conclude that the strip search of Savana Redding did not violate the Fourth Amendment .
He asserted that the majority 's finding second-guesses the measures that educators take to maintain discipline " and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge .
" 5 years from now : To ensure the health and safety of students and faculty , all children must attend school in the nude .
In addition , the principal will going the extra mile in ensuring the safety and security of our precious children by taking pictures of them and posting them on his website for... review... by various experts .
His site , he claims , will have a very reasonable monthly access fee and discreet billing .
And Justice Thomas gets in free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Justice Clarence Thomas was the only member of the court to conclude that the strip search of Savana Redding did not violate the Fourth Amendment.
He asserted that the majority's finding second-guesses the measures that educators take to maintain discipline "and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge.
"
5 years from now:  To ensure the health and safety of students and faculty, all children must attend school in the nude.
In addition, the principal will going the extra mile in ensuring the safety and security of our precious children by taking pictures of them and posting them on his website for... review... by various experts.
His site, he claims, will have a very reasonable monthly access fee and discreet billing.
And Justice Thomas gets in free.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472879</id>
	<title>Re:All bark, no bite</title>
	<author>Nukenbar</author>
	<datestamp>1245926280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The point is that these searches are now against the law and future officials can be held liable.  It this search had already been a violation of clearly established law, the case would have never made it to the Supreme Court.  See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified\_immunity" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Qualified immunity</a> [wikipedia.org].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The point is that these searches are now against the law and future officials can be held liable .
It this search had already been a violation of clearly established law , the case would have never made it to the Supreme Court .
See Qualified immunity [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The point is that these searches are now against the law and future officials can be held liable.
It this search had already been a violation of clearly established law, the case would have never made it to the Supreme Court.
See Qualified immunity [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472271</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28475105</id>
	<title>hopefully $$$ won't be involved...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245935280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I barely read TFA but I really hope that the most that comes from this is a wrist slap.  Yes, 4th amend was broken.  It was done with everyone's safety in mind.  The school should not be conducting strip searches and now knows this.  If anything the school should develop a proceedure to deal with a situation where a child is suspect of hiding something not allowed on school grounds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I barely read TFA but I really hope that the most that comes from this is a wrist slap .
Yes , 4th amend was broken .
It was done with everyone 's safety in mind .
The school should not be conducting strip searches and now knows this .
If anything the school should develop a proceedure to deal with a situation where a child is suspect of hiding something not allowed on school grounds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I barely read TFA but I really hope that the most that comes from this is a wrist slap.
Yes, 4th amend was broken.
It was done with everyone's safety in mind.
The school should not be conducting strip searches and now knows this.
If anything the school should develop a proceedure to deal with a situation where a child is suspect of hiding something not allowed on school grounds.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28474163</id>
	<title>Re:All bark, no bite</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245931800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're not liable <i>this time</i> but would be in the future.  They were only not held liable because the Court felt that the law on strip searches hadn't been clear enough in the past; lower courts had in fact gone both ways, including in this case.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're not liable this time but would be in the future .
They were only not held liable because the Court felt that the law on strip searches had n't been clear enough in the past ; lower courts had in fact gone both ways , including in this case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're not liable this time but would be in the future.
They were only not held liable because the Court felt that the law on strip searches hadn't been clear enough in the past; lower courts had in fact gone both ways, including in this case.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472271</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28476003</id>
	<title>The only surprise...</title>
	<author>stewbacca</author>
	<datestamp>1245940320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>is that one judge actually dissented. This has to be one of the biggest "NO DUH" cases I've ever heard of.  How did this make it to the Supreme Court again?</htmltext>
<tokenext>is that one judge actually dissented .
This has to be one of the biggest " NO DUH " cases I 've ever heard of .
How did this make it to the Supreme Court again ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is that one judge actually dissented.
This has to be one of the biggest "NO DUH" cases I've ever heard of.
How did this make it to the Supreme Court again?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471823</id>
	<title>Re:My Rights Online?</title>
	<author>Captain Splendid</author>
	<datestamp>1245922860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>They're about your rights, and you're reading it online.<br> <br>

Fucking parsers...</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're about your rights , and you 're reading it online .
Fucking parsers.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're about your rights, and you're reading it online.
Fucking parsers...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471759</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471837</id>
	<title>And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>nebaz</author>
	<datestamp>1245922860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Clarence Thomas, who 'asserted that the majority's finding second-guesses the measures that educators take to maintain discipline "and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge."'</p><p>I can't imagine how forcing a 13-year old girl to strip ensures anyone's health and safety, especially since they were looking for IBUPROFIN, for heaven's sake.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Clarence Thomas , who 'asserted that the majority 's finding second-guesses the measures that educators take to maintain discipline " and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge .
" 'I ca n't imagine how forcing a 13-year old girl to strip ensures anyone 's health and safety , especially since they were looking for IBUPROFIN , for heaven 's sake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clarence Thomas, who 'asserted that the majority's finding second-guesses the measures that educators take to maintain discipline "and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge.
"'I can't imagine how forcing a 13-year old girl to strip ensures anyone's health and safety, especially since they were looking for IBUPROFIN, for heaven's sake.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472009</id>
	<title>Re:Well...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245923280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But current federal United States laws dictate that by seeing anybody under age of 18 nude or even hot-like you're considered a pedophile and therefore must be imprisoned for at least three years and required to register as a sex offender for the rest of your life even though you're in the same age group, no exceptions!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But current federal United States laws dictate that by seeing anybody under age of 18 nude or even hot-like you 're considered a pedophile and therefore must be imprisoned for at least three years and required to register as a sex offender for the rest of your life even though you 're in the same age group , no exceptions !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But current federal United States laws dictate that by seeing anybody under age of 18 nude or even hot-like you're considered a pedophile and therefore must be imprisoned for at least three years and required to register as a sex offender for the rest of your life even though you're in the same age group, no exceptions!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471857</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472949</id>
	<title>Nude girl</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245926580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think that the school official just wanted to see a hot 13 year old nude girl...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that the school official just wanted to see a hot 13 year old nude girl.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that the school official just wanted to see a hot 13 year old nude girl...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472125</id>
	<title>Re:And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>martas</author>
	<datestamp>1245923580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>are you kidding? what if somebody got a headache, and took the pill to feel better? can you imagine the damage to The Children's fragile minds from seeing someone take a pill not prescribed by a doctor?</htmltext>
<tokenext>are you kidding ?
what if somebody got a headache , and took the pill to feel better ?
can you imagine the damage to The Children 's fragile minds from seeing someone take a pill not prescribed by a doctor ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>are you kidding?
what if somebody got a headache, and took the pill to feel better?
can you imagine the damage to The Children's fragile minds from seeing someone take a pill not prescribed by a doctor?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471837</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472043</id>
	<title>Re:Well...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245923340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>...I clicked on TFA to see if the girl was hot, but theres no picture. Sigh...even teenage geeks cant get love<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></div><p>Hrmm...no +1 quasi-pedo, mods?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...I clicked on TFA to see if the girl was hot , but theres no picture .
Sigh...even teenage geeks cant get love : ( Hrmm...no + 1 quasi-pedo , mods ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...I clicked on TFA to see if the girl was hot, but theres no picture.
Sigh...even teenage geeks cant get love :(Hrmm...no +1 quasi-pedo, mods?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471857</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472929</id>
	<title>Re:All I know is one thing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245926460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>... if I was her brother or father I'd probably *still* be in jail for assault.</p></div><p>why? then they dont get to sue...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... if I was her brother or father I 'd probably * still * be in jail for assault.why ?
then they dont get to sue.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... if I was her brother or father I'd probably *still* be in jail for assault.why?
then they dont get to sue...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472153</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472115</id>
	<title>Qualified Immunity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245923520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>The reason the officials were not held responsible is because of an idea called qualified immunity (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified\_immunity" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified\_immunity</a> [wikipedia.org]) which essentially states that public officials cannot be held personally responsible for actions they undertake as part of their public duty and which, if illegal or unconstitutional, must clearly be illegal or unconstitutional.<br> <br>It is interesting to note that the two Justices that dissented regarding whether or not the school officials were covered by qualified immunity were Justice John Paul Stevens and Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and that Justice Souter was a part of the majority. If Sotomayor is placed on the bench, it is feasible she would rule much closer to Justice Ginsburg and Stevens then to Souter on these types of matters.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason the officials were not held responsible is because of an idea called qualified immunity ( http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified \ _immunity [ wikipedia.org ] ) which essentially states that public officials can not be held personally responsible for actions they undertake as part of their public duty and which , if illegal or unconstitutional , must clearly be illegal or unconstitutional .
It is interesting to note that the two Justices that dissented regarding whether or not the school officials were covered by qualified immunity were Justice John Paul Stevens and Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and that Justice Souter was a part of the majority .
If Sotomayor is placed on the bench , it is feasible she would rule much closer to Justice Ginsburg and Stevens then to Souter on these types of matters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason the officials were not held responsible is because of an idea called qualified immunity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified\_immunity [wikipedia.org]) which essentially states that public officials cannot be held personally responsible for actions they undertake as part of their public duty and which, if illegal or unconstitutional, must clearly be illegal or unconstitutional.
It is interesting to note that the two Justices that dissented regarding whether or not the school officials were covered by qualified immunity were Justice John Paul Stevens and Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and that Justice Souter was a part of the majority.
If Sotomayor is placed on the bench, it is feasible she would rule much closer to Justice Ginsburg and Stevens then to Souter on these types of matters.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473269</id>
	<title>Re:Well...</title>
	<author>Rick Genter</author>
	<datestamp>1245927840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CNN had her picture - she's 19 now and in college. (You didn't think the strip search was last week, did you?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CNN had her picture - she 's 19 now and in college .
( You did n't think the strip search was last week , did you ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CNN had her picture - she's 19 now and in college.
(You didn't think the strip search was last week, did you?
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471857</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472951</id>
	<title>Re:All I know is one thing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245926580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wouldn't be.</p><p>Being caught is never the answer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't be.Being caught is never the answer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't be.Being caught is never the answer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472153</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473147</id>
	<title>Re:sue the school?</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1245927300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I'm assuming the school district is still libel for the actions of it's employees</p></div> </blockquote><p>Wrong.  Iit is not written (or stored in a permanent form) defamation of it is employees.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm assuming the school district is still libel for the actions of it 's employees Wrong .
Iit is not written ( or stored in a permanent form ) defamation of it is employees .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm assuming the school district is still libel for the actions of it's employees Wrong.
Iit is not written (or stored in a permanent form) defamation of it is employees.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471831</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472483</id>
	<title>My parents</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245924840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I was in K-12, I did not have anything near "helicopter parents". They were happy to be proactive and supportive and happy to let me choose my own classes, happy to keep tabs on my performance in school, but they didn't go to the school complaining every time I got an "undesirable" grade.</p><p>I must say, however, that there are a few situations that would have had my parents on the principal and school board like hawks, quite likely with a lawyer in tow:</p><p>- If I were ever disciplined for refusing to say the pledge or non-disruptively having an opinion that a teacher or administrator did not agree with,</p><p>- Malicious, abusive, or harassing teacher behavior,</p><p>- Being strip searched.</p><p>Fortunately, it never happened. My sister faced sexual harassment from high school boys yelling sexual comments at her, and my mother wrote a long, scathing letter to the school's excuse-for-a-principal, who reluctantly had an "intercom fireside chat" with the student body about the topic--fortunately, not dropping my sister's or mother's name.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was in K-12 , I did not have anything near " helicopter parents " .
They were happy to be proactive and supportive and happy to let me choose my own classes , happy to keep tabs on my performance in school , but they did n't go to the school complaining every time I got an " undesirable " grade.I must say , however , that there are a few situations that would have had my parents on the principal and school board like hawks , quite likely with a lawyer in tow : - If I were ever disciplined for refusing to say the pledge or non-disruptively having an opinion that a teacher or administrator did not agree with,- Malicious , abusive , or harassing teacher behavior,- Being strip searched.Fortunately , it never happened .
My sister faced sexual harassment from high school boys yelling sexual comments at her , and my mother wrote a long , scathing letter to the school 's excuse-for-a-principal , who reluctantly had an " intercom fireside chat " with the student body about the topic--fortunately , not dropping my sister 's or mother 's name .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was in K-12, I did not have anything near "helicopter parents".
They were happy to be proactive and supportive and happy to let me choose my own classes, happy to keep tabs on my performance in school, but they didn't go to the school complaining every time I got an "undesirable" grade.I must say, however, that there are a few situations that would have had my parents on the principal and school board like hawks, quite likely with a lawyer in tow:- If I were ever disciplined for refusing to say the pledge or non-disruptively having an opinion that a teacher or administrator did not agree with,- Malicious, abusive, or harassing teacher behavior,- Being strip searched.Fortunately, it never happened.
My sister faced sexual harassment from high school boys yelling sexual comments at her, and my mother wrote a long, scathing letter to the school's excuse-for-a-principal, who reluctantly had an "intercom fireside chat" with the student body about the topic--fortunately, not dropping my sister's or mother's name.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471943</id>
	<title>For once, read TFA.</title>
	<author>powerlord</author>
	<datestamp>1245923100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Okay, I'll admit that, like most Slashdotters, I skip the occasional article and jump straight into the comments, but people should really take the time to read this one!</p><p>For instance:</p><blockquote><div><p>Had Savana been suspected of having illegal drugs that could have posed a far greater danger to herself and other students, the strip search, too, might have been justified, the majority said, in an opinion by Justice David H. Souter.</p></div></blockquote><p>and</p><blockquote><div><p>Justice Clarence Thomas was the only member of the court to conclude that the strip search of Savana Redding did not violate the Fourth Amendment. He asserted that the majority's finding second-guesses the measures that educators take to maintain discipline "and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge."</p></div></blockquote><p>The discussion about wether the School Administrator should be held responsible is similarly contentious.</p><p>Its nice to know that they chose well on upholding her rights, but its sad how close a thing it seems from the article.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Okay , I 'll admit that , like most Slashdotters , I skip the occasional article and jump straight into the comments , but people should really take the time to read this one ! For instance : Had Savana been suspected of having illegal drugs that could have posed a far greater danger to herself and other students , the strip search , too , might have been justified , the majority said , in an opinion by Justice David H. Souter.andJustice Clarence Thomas was the only member of the court to conclude that the strip search of Savana Redding did not violate the Fourth Amendment .
He asserted that the majority 's finding second-guesses the measures that educators take to maintain discipline " and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge .
" The discussion about wether the School Administrator should be held responsible is similarly contentious.Its nice to know that they chose well on upholding her rights , but its sad how close a thing it seems from the article .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Okay, I'll admit that, like most Slashdotters, I skip the occasional article and jump straight into the comments, but people should really take the time to read this one!For instance:Had Savana been suspected of having illegal drugs that could have posed a far greater danger to herself and other students, the strip search, too, might have been justified, the majority said, in an opinion by Justice David H. Souter.andJustice Clarence Thomas was the only member of the court to conclude that the strip search of Savana Redding did not violate the Fourth Amendment.
He asserted that the majority's finding second-guesses the measures that educators take to maintain discipline "and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge.
"The discussion about wether the School Administrator should be held responsible is similarly contentious.Its nice to know that they chose well on upholding her rights, but its sad how close a thing it seems from the article.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473711</id>
	<title>Re:For once, read TFA.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245930000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also, they didn't even bother to search her locker first. Why would someone resort to a strip search before they even searched a locker?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , they did n't even bother to search her locker first .
Why would someone resort to a strip search before they even searched a locker ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, they didn't even bother to search her locker first.
Why would someone resort to a strip search before they even searched a locker?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471943</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28478579</id>
	<title>Re:Whos the oddball</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1246047600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Remember, Clarence Thomas was the one who was accused by Anita Hill of sexual harassment during his confirmation hearings, and got away with it.  So why should it surprise anyone that he would find it perfectly acceptable for a government employee to strip search a 13 year-old girl?  His dissent was the closest he could get to saying "Hot damn, I wish I'd been there to do it myself!"  The man is a misogynist and a perv and the only reason why he was confirmed was because of his race.</p><p>Seriously, Justice Thomas, Scalia, and Alito are the three Horsemen of the Apocalypse.  Roberts is the understudy.  The problem is that they have such a narrow, literal understanding of constitutional law that they utterly fail to appreciate how laws only have meaning when they are understood in the larger context of the needs of a diverse and ever-changing society.  The Founding Fathers understood the Constitution to be a living document.  No one so capable of drafting such words could possibly be so stupid or arrogant as to believe that the laws they created are forever perfectly formed.  They knew they could not anticipate how American society would change over the centuries.  The conservatives' insistence on the immutability of the Constitution is merely an excuse set forth in order to justify their attempts to holding onto power, even if it means denying entire classes of citizens their human rights.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Remember , Clarence Thomas was the one who was accused by Anita Hill of sexual harassment during his confirmation hearings , and got away with it .
So why should it surprise anyone that he would find it perfectly acceptable for a government employee to strip search a 13 year-old girl ?
His dissent was the closest he could get to saying " Hot damn , I wish I 'd been there to do it myself !
" The man is a misogynist and a perv and the only reason why he was confirmed was because of his race.Seriously , Justice Thomas , Scalia , and Alito are the three Horsemen of the Apocalypse .
Roberts is the understudy .
The problem is that they have such a narrow , literal understanding of constitutional law that they utterly fail to appreciate how laws only have meaning when they are understood in the larger context of the needs of a diverse and ever-changing society .
The Founding Fathers understood the Constitution to be a living document .
No one so capable of drafting such words could possibly be so stupid or arrogant as to believe that the laws they created are forever perfectly formed .
They knew they could not anticipate how American society would change over the centuries .
The conservatives ' insistence on the immutability of the Constitution is merely an excuse set forth in order to justify their attempts to holding onto power , even if it means denying entire classes of citizens their human rights .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remember, Clarence Thomas was the one who was accused by Anita Hill of sexual harassment during his confirmation hearings, and got away with it.
So why should it surprise anyone that he would find it perfectly acceptable for a government employee to strip search a 13 year-old girl?
His dissent was the closest he could get to saying "Hot damn, I wish I'd been there to do it myself!
"  The man is a misogynist and a perv and the only reason why he was confirmed was because of his race.Seriously, Justice Thomas, Scalia, and Alito are the three Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
Roberts is the understudy.
The problem is that they have such a narrow, literal understanding of constitutional law that they utterly fail to appreciate how laws only have meaning when they are understood in the larger context of the needs of a diverse and ever-changing society.
The Founding Fathers understood the Constitution to be a living document.
No one so capable of drafting such words could possibly be so stupid or arrogant as to believe that the laws they created are forever perfectly formed.
They knew they could not anticipate how American society would change over the centuries.
The conservatives' insistence on the immutability of the Constitution is merely an excuse set forth in order to justify their attempts to holding onto power, even if it means denying entire classes of citizens their human rights.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472251</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473221</id>
	<title>Re:Stop blaming the government and schools...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245927540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, here's a thought. The child <b>Did Not</b> have the suspected drugs on her person, and was searched on suspicion of such. The parents, in your argument, did the correct thing and ensured that their child did not carry the inappropriate item to school, but they administrators <b>did the search anyways</b>.</p><p>Would you like to review your argument and get back to us a little later?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , here 's a thought .
The child Did Not have the suspected drugs on her person , and was searched on suspicion of such .
The parents , in your argument , did the correct thing and ensured that their child did not carry the inappropriate item to school , but they administrators did the search anyways.Would you like to review your argument and get back to us a little later ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, here's a thought.
The child Did Not have the suspected drugs on her person, and was searched on suspicion of such.
The parents, in your argument, did the correct thing and ensured that their child did not carry the inappropriate item to school, but they administrators did the search anyways.Would you like to review your argument and get back to us a little later?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472271</id>
	<title>All bark, no bite</title>
	<author>XxtraLarGe</author>
	<datestamp>1245924120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>However, by a vote of 7-2, the Court also ruled that the individual school officials could not be held personally liable</p></div><p>What good is the ruling if there's no consequence? It seems to me that the biggest problem with government is that there's almost no accountability, and that leads to corruption &amp; abuse of power.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>However , by a vote of 7-2 , the Court also ruled that the individual school officials could not be held personally liableWhat good is the ruling if there 's no consequence ?
It seems to me that the biggest problem with government is that there 's almost no accountability , and that leads to corruption &amp; abuse of power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>However, by a vote of 7-2, the Court also ruled that the individual school officials could not be held personally liableWhat good is the ruling if there's no consequence?
It seems to me that the biggest problem with government is that there's almost no accountability, and that leads to corruption &amp; abuse of power.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472899</id>
	<title>Re:Never has the suddenoutbreakofcommonsense tag f</title>
	<author>SandiConoverJones</author>
	<datestamp>1245926400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What a beautiful solution! Get rid of some of the overpaid union school employees by convicting them as sex offenders, and keep them out of other schools!

<p>In Ohio, they can't be a sex offender when they START the job, and they can't abuse kids in their own school, 'lest they get fired, but they can stay employed as school employees if they abuse kids from different schools. (Or on another front that is not sex offense, educator can bake babies in cars, wihtout fear of prosecution, or losing their jobs! Killing a baby in favor of bringing in a few dozen doughnuts...  Have to keep your priorities in line...    Hmm, some days a good doughnut does sound better than a kid...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What a beautiful solution !
Get rid of some of the overpaid union school employees by convicting them as sex offenders , and keep them out of other schools !
In Ohio , they ca n't be a sex offender when they START the job , and they ca n't abuse kids in their own school , 'lest they get fired , but they can stay employed as school employees if they abuse kids from different schools .
( Or on another front that is not sex offense , educator can bake babies in cars , wihtout fear of prosecution , or losing their jobs !
Killing a baby in favor of bringing in a few dozen doughnuts... Have to keep your priorities in line... Hmm , some days a good doughnut does sound better than a kid... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a beautiful solution!
Get rid of some of the overpaid union school employees by convicting them as sex offenders, and keep them out of other schools!
In Ohio, they can't be a sex offender when they START the job, and they can't abuse kids in their own school, 'lest they get fired, but they can stay employed as school employees if they abuse kids from different schools.
(Or on another front that is not sex offense, educator can bake babies in cars, wihtout fear of prosecution, or losing their jobs!
Killing a baby in favor of bringing in a few dozen doughnuts...  Have to keep your priorities in line...    Hmm, some days a good doughnut does sound better than a kid...)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471859</id>
	<title>Re:My Rights Online?</title>
	<author>Bigby</author>
	<datestamp>1245922920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The story is posted "online"...right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The story is posted " online " ...right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The story is posted "online"...right?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472285</id>
	<title>Stop blaming the government and schools...</title>
	<author>DomNF15</author>
	<datestamp>1245924180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Some may not want to hear this, but it's the parents' responsibility to make sure the kid doesn't bring weapons/drugs into the school.  If the courts are ruling no searches of underwear, it's because parents should be aware of what their kids are stuffing into their clothing.  The parents' lack of responsibility and accountability is the reason metal detectors and searches have become necessary.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Some may not want to hear this , but it 's the parents ' responsibility to make sure the kid does n't bring weapons/drugs into the school .
If the courts are ruling no searches of underwear , it 's because parents should be aware of what their kids are stuffing into their clothing .
The parents ' lack of responsibility and accountability is the reason metal detectors and searches have become necessary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some may not want to hear this, but it's the parents' responsibility to make sure the kid doesn't bring weapons/drugs into the school.
If the courts are ruling no searches of underwear, it's because parents should be aware of what their kids are stuffing into their clothing.
The parents' lack of responsibility and accountability is the reason metal detectors and searches have become necessary.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472703</id>
	<title>Re:Stop blaming the government and schools...</title>
	<author>Kenja</author>
	<datestamp>1245925620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Um... the child in question DIDN'T bring drugs, weapons or anything of the like to school. Which is kinda the point.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Um... the child in question DID N'T bring drugs , weapons or anything of the like to school .
Which is kinda the point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um... the child in question DIDN'T bring drugs, weapons or anything of the like to school.
Which is kinda the point.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28475365</id>
	<title>"HE" did not Perform the Search</title>
	<author>Zatoichi007</author>
	<datestamp>1245936780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is still a stupid search and should be ruled as such.

However the facts are:
   1. The (male) administrator did NOT perform the search.
   2. A (female) nurse performed the search.

Stupid yes, but it seemed from the various comments that this needed to be stated.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is still a stupid search and should be ruled as such .
However the facts are : 1 .
The ( male ) administrator did NOT perform the search .
2. A ( female ) nurse performed the search .
Stupid yes , but it seemed from the various comments that this needed to be stated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is still a stupid search and should be ruled as such.
However the facts are:
   1.
The (male) administrator did NOT perform the search.
2. A (female) nurse performed the search.
Stupid yes, but it seemed from the various comments that this needed to be stated.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472051</id>
	<title>Re:And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245923340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does this surprise you?  Thomas' opinion of the law is pretty much the government can do whatever it wants, as long as its not done by a democrat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this surprise you ?
Thomas ' opinion of the law is pretty much the government can do whatever it wants , as long as its not done by a democrat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this surprise you?
Thomas' opinion of the law is pretty much the government can do whatever it wants, as long as its not done by a democrat.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472561</id>
	<title>Re:And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>AvitarX</author>
	<datestamp>1245925140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pretty much every over the counter drug is a pseudonym for a prescription drug in the my area though.</p><p>So it was overheard "You can get Advil from such-and-such" I would say a search (not strip, simply purse, bag, and empty your pockets) is reasonable.</p><p>At least it's that way on the east coast.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty much every over the counter drug is a pseudonym for a prescription drug in the my area though.So it was overheard " You can get Advil from such-and-such " I would say a search ( not strip , simply purse , bag , and empty your pockets ) is reasonable.At least it 's that way on the east coast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty much every over the counter drug is a pseudonym for a prescription drug in the my area though.So it was overheard "You can get Advil from such-and-such" I would say a search (not strip, simply purse, bag, and empty your pockets) is reasonable.At least it's that way on the east coast.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473015</id>
	<title>Misread the OP</title>
	<author>arizwebfoot</author>
	<datestamp>1245926820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All this time, reading all these posts, I thought everyone was talking about Kate + 8</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All this time , reading all these posts , I thought everyone was talking about Kate + 8</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All this time, reading all these posts, I thought everyone was talking about Kate + 8</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473409</id>
	<title>Re:Never has the suddenoutbreakofcommonsense tag f</title>
	<author>billius</author>
	<datestamp>1245928620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can't be serious about branding them as sex offenders.  Sex offenders do truly vile things like text naked pictures of themselves to their boyfriends.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't be serious about branding them as sex offenders .
Sex offenders do truly vile things like text naked pictures of themselves to their boyfriends .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't be serious about branding them as sex offenders.
Sex offenders do truly vile things like text naked pictures of themselves to their boyfriends.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472697</id>
	<title>Re:Well...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245925560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hang in there.  I know how you feel.  However, once you get to college, you'll do all right.  There are plenty of hot girls lookin' for love there!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hang in there .
I know how you feel .
However , once you get to college , you 'll do all right .
There are plenty of hot girls lookin ' for love there !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hang in there.
I know how you feel.
However, once you get to college, you'll do all right.
There are plenty of hot girls lookin' for love there!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28476463</id>
	<title>Re:Clarence Thomas's Copy of the Constitution</title>
	<author>ObsessiveMathsFreak</author>
	<datestamp>1245943560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Read what the judge actually wrote.</p><blockquote><div><p>Preservation of order, discipline and safety in public schools is simply not the domain of the Constitution</p></div></blockquote><p>The thing is, he's right. More to the point, the legality or otherwise of strip searches on students in public schools is not a topic that is present on any level in the American constitution. Your constitution does not protect your children against any level of unreasonable search when you hand them over to public servants acting in loco parentis. The laws might, but there don't seem to be any in this case. Another shock example of how a 240 year old constitution can become a little out of date.</p><p>Justice Clarence has <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In\_loco\_parentis#Criticism\_of\_the\_Tinker\_doctrine\_by\_Justice\_Clarence\_Thomas" title="wikipedia.org">strong views</a> [wikipedia.org] on the power and rights of American schools over their students. Essentially, he believes that once children attend a school, that school becomes a kind of quasi-parent, with concrete rights over that childs entire upbringing, at least in so far as behavior and discipline is concerned.</p><p>As far as I can tell, Justice Clarence's view, outrageous as it is, reflects the de facto relationship between schools and their students. American schools have frightingly broad powers over their student's lives.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Read what the judge actually wrote.Preservation of order , discipline and safety in public schools is simply not the domain of the ConstitutionThe thing is , he 's right .
More to the point , the legality or otherwise of strip searches on students in public schools is not a topic that is present on any level in the American constitution .
Your constitution does not protect your children against any level of unreasonable search when you hand them over to public servants acting in loco parentis .
The laws might , but there do n't seem to be any in this case .
Another shock example of how a 240 year old constitution can become a little out of date.Justice Clarence has strong views [ wikipedia.org ] on the power and rights of American schools over their students .
Essentially , he believes that once children attend a school , that school becomes a kind of quasi-parent , with concrete rights over that childs entire upbringing , at least in so far as behavior and discipline is concerned.As far as I can tell , Justice Clarence 's view , outrageous as it is , reflects the de facto relationship between schools and their students .
American schools have frightingly broad powers over their student 's lives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Read what the judge actually wrote.Preservation of order, discipline and safety in public schools is simply not the domain of the ConstitutionThe thing is, he's right.
More to the point, the legality or otherwise of strip searches on students in public schools is not a topic that is present on any level in the American constitution.
Your constitution does not protect your children against any level of unreasonable search when you hand them over to public servants acting in loco parentis.
The laws might, but there don't seem to be any in this case.
Another shock example of how a 240 year old constitution can become a little out of date.Justice Clarence has strong views [wikipedia.org] on the power and rights of American schools over their students.
Essentially, he believes that once children attend a school, that school becomes a kind of quasi-parent, with concrete rights over that childs entire upbringing, at least in so far as behavior and discipline is concerned.As far as I can tell, Justice Clarence's view, outrageous as it is, reflects the de facto relationship between schools and their students.
American schools have frightingly broad powers over their student's lives.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473477</id>
	<title>Re:Qualified Immunity</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1245928860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The reason the officials were not held responsible is because of an idea called qualified immunity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified\_immunity) which essentially states that public officials cannot be held personally responsible for actions they undertake as part of their public duty and which, if illegal or unconstitutional, must clearly be illegal or unconstitutional</i></p><p>Funny how those who are charged with upholding the rule of law don't feel that it should apply to them. If anything, they should have greater liability for abusing their authority.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason the officials were not held responsible is because of an idea called qualified immunity ( http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified \ _immunity ) which essentially states that public officials can not be held personally responsible for actions they undertake as part of their public duty and which , if illegal or unconstitutional , must clearly be illegal or unconstitutionalFunny how those who are charged with upholding the rule of law do n't feel that it should apply to them .
If anything , they should have greater liability for abusing their authority .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason the officials were not held responsible is because of an idea called qualified immunity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified\_immunity) which essentially states that public officials cannot be held personally responsible for actions they undertake as part of their public duty and which, if illegal or unconstitutional, must clearly be illegal or unconstitutionalFunny how those who are charged with upholding the rule of law don't feel that it should apply to them.
If anything, they should have greater liability for abusing their authority.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28476559</id>
	<title>Re:All bark, no bite</title>
	<author>Ailill</author>
	<datestamp>1245944220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>As a note, in the opinion the SCOTUS remanded part of the case in order for a lower court (9th Circuit) to determine if the school district is liable. P. 13 of the opinion; 17 of the pdf. <a href="http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/08pdf/08-479.pdf" title="supremecourtus.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/08pdf/08-479.pdf</a> [supremecourtus.gov]

So there is a very distinct possibility there will be at least faceless accountability, if that provides any comfort.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a note , in the opinion the SCOTUS remanded part of the case in order for a lower court ( 9th Circuit ) to determine if the school district is liable .
P. 13 of the opinion ; 17 of the pdf .
http : //www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/08pdf/08-479.pdf [ supremecourtus.gov ] So there is a very distinct possibility there will be at least faceless accountability , if that provides any comfort .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a note, in the opinion the SCOTUS remanded part of the case in order for a lower court (9th Circuit) to determine if the school district is liable.
P. 13 of the opinion; 17 of the pdf.
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/08pdf/08-479.pdf [supremecourtus.gov]

So there is a very distinct possibility there will be at least faceless accountability, if that provides any comfort.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472091</id>
	<title>Re:And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245923460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I can't imagine how forcing a 13-year old girl to strip ensures anyone's health and safety, especially since they were looking for IBUPROFIN, for heaven's sake.</p></div><p>You can't imagine?  I guess you don't know thirteen year olds today.  They can be very nasty little things.  My kids will be 19 next week, and even they are shocked at some of the things the younger kids do.  Last year, a seventh grade girl was expelled for giving a boy on the bus oral sex.  Incredibly, it was for just a few bucks.</p><p>BTW, I do agree with your sentiment about a strip search over Advil.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't imagine how forcing a 13-year old girl to strip ensures anyone 's health and safety , especially since they were looking for IBUPROFIN , for heaven 's sake.You ca n't imagine ?
I guess you do n't know thirteen year olds today .
They can be very nasty little things .
My kids will be 19 next week , and even they are shocked at some of the things the younger kids do .
Last year , a seventh grade girl was expelled for giving a boy on the bus oral sex .
Incredibly , it was for just a few bucks.BTW , I do agree with your sentiment about a strip search over Advil .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't imagine how forcing a 13-year old girl to strip ensures anyone's health and safety, especially since they were looking for IBUPROFIN, for heaven's sake.You can't imagine?
I guess you don't know thirteen year olds today.
They can be very nasty little things.
My kids will be 19 next week, and even they are shocked at some of the things the younger kids do.
Last year, a seventh grade girl was expelled for giving a boy on the bus oral sex.
Incredibly, it was for just a few bucks.BTW, I do agree with your sentiment about a strip search over Advil.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28482361</id>
	<title>Re:Clarence Thomas's Copy of the Constitution</title>
	<author>XnavxeMiyyep</author>
	<datestamp>1246030860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/14/us/14bar.html?\_r=2&amp;partner=rss&amp;emc=rss" title="nytimes.com" rel="nofollow">his copy</a> [nytimes.com] has the Bill of Obligations and Bill of Responsibilities, and he's tired of everyone focusing on civil liberties!</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , his copy [ nytimes.com ] has the Bill of Obligations and Bill of Responsibilities , and he 's tired of everyone focusing on civil liberties !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, his copy [nytimes.com] has the Bill of Obligations and Bill of Responsibilities, and he's tired of everyone focusing on civil liberties!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473131</id>
	<title>Backwards.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245927240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Letting the parents sue the school district means it's taxpayer money down the toilet, and probably less to spend on education.  Letting the parents sue the individuals responsible means it's *their* asses on the line - and they damn well should have known better regardless of what the policies said.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Letting the parents sue the school district means it 's taxpayer money down the toilet , and probably less to spend on education .
Letting the parents sue the individuals responsible means it 's * their * asses on the line - and they damn well should have known better regardless of what the policies said .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Letting the parents sue the school district means it's taxpayer money down the toilet, and probably less to spend on education.
Letting the parents sue the individuals responsible means it's *their* asses on the line - and they damn well should have known better regardless of what the policies said.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471857</id>
	<title>Well...</title>
	<author>XPeter</author>
	<datestamp>1245922920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...I clicked on TFA to see if the girl was hot, but theres no picture. Sigh...even teenage geeks cant get love<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...I clicked on TFA to see if the girl was hot , but theres no picture .
Sigh...even teenage geeks cant get love : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...I clicked on TFA to see if the girl was hot, but theres no picture.
Sigh...even teenage geeks cant get love :(</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28475603</id>
	<title>Re:Qualified Immunity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245938100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it because she's a girl? or because she's 13?</p><p>I just wanted to highlight that because I think people are subconsciously responding to her sex as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it because she 's a girl ?
or because she 's 13 ? I just wanted to highlight that because I think people are subconsciously responding to her sex as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it because she's a girl?
or because she's 13?I just wanted to highlight that because I think people are subconsciously responding to her sex as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472337</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28481909</id>
	<title>Re:Qualified Immunity</title>
	<author>socrplayr813</author>
	<datestamp>1246029540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Barbed wire, metal detectors, and security might not be uncommon in cities, but I'd hardly call that the typical school.  No suburban school I've heard of has near the level of security you're describing.  Either you're exaggerating or you have a limited knowledge of schools in this country.  Yes, I am regularly in contact with a number of teachers in at least four different states (friends and relatives who are teachers).</p><p>People love to paint the US school system as a huge clusterfuck with armed guards and gang wars.  Things do happen, unfortunately, but it's certainly not as bad as some people make it sound.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Barbed wire , metal detectors , and security might not be uncommon in cities , but I 'd hardly call that the typical school .
No suburban school I 've heard of has near the level of security you 're describing .
Either you 're exaggerating or you have a limited knowledge of schools in this country .
Yes , I am regularly in contact with a number of teachers in at least four different states ( friends and relatives who are teachers ) .People love to paint the US school system as a huge clusterfuck with armed guards and gang wars .
Things do happen , unfortunately , but it 's certainly not as bad as some people make it sound .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Barbed wire, metal detectors, and security might not be uncommon in cities, but I'd hardly call that the typical school.
No suburban school I've heard of has near the level of security you're describing.
Either you're exaggerating or you have a limited knowledge of schools in this country.
Yes, I am regularly in contact with a number of teachers in at least four different states (friends and relatives who are teachers).People love to paint the US school system as a huge clusterfuck with armed guards and gang wars.
Things do happen, unfortunately, but it's certainly not as bad as some people make it sound.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28474039</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28474039</id>
	<title>Re:Qualified Immunity</title>
	<author>LackThereof</author>
	<datestamp>1245931200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> Here in the US, public schools are typically surrounded by barbed wire, and not a small number have metal detectors at the doors.  There's typically even a local police officer patrolling the halls in addition to the hired security.</p><p>The general perception of a school in the US as a locked-down secure facility really blurs the line.  "Reasonable" persons have a completely different frame of reference over here than they do over there..</p><p>Or are your schools just as fucked up as ours?  If they are, my hypothesis is totally wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here in the US , public schools are typically surrounded by barbed wire , and not a small number have metal detectors at the doors .
There 's typically even a local police officer patrolling the halls in addition to the hired security.The general perception of a school in the US as a locked-down secure facility really blurs the line .
" Reasonable " persons have a completely different frame of reference over here than they do over there..Or are your schools just as fucked up as ours ?
If they are , my hypothesis is totally wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Here in the US, public schools are typically surrounded by barbed wire, and not a small number have metal detectors at the doors.
There's typically even a local police officer patrolling the halls in addition to the hired security.The general perception of a school in the US as a locked-down secure facility really blurs the line.
"Reasonable" persons have a completely different frame of reference over here than they do over there..Or are your schools just as fucked up as ours?
If they are, my hypothesis is totally wrong.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472337</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472121</id>
	<title>Re:News For Nerds How Exactly?!!!</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1245923580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A lot of nerds really like perscription Ibuprofen and are worried they'll be strip searched if they use it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A lot of nerds really like perscription Ibuprofen and are worried they 'll be strip searched if they use it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lot of nerds really like perscription Ibuprofen and are worried they'll be strip searched if they use it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471935</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472317</id>
	<title>Re:And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>AndersOSU</author>
	<datestamp>1245924240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Souter's saying that no matter how much evidence you have it's never reasonable to strip search a 13 year old if you're only looking for ibuprofen (or something similarly benign.)</p><p>He's leaving the door open for possible future strip searches of 13 year olds if they're looking for something genuinely dangerous - but you'd still  have to meet at least the reasonable suspicion, if not the probable cause threshold. Presumably if you meet these thresholds the search isn't unreasonable.</p><p>This actually reinforces the 4th amendment, because it clarifies that not every search is reasonable just because you have a reasonable suspicion that a crime was committed - the severity of the crime also factors into reasonableness.</p><p>Also Thomas is an asshat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Souter 's saying that no matter how much evidence you have it 's never reasonable to strip search a 13 year old if you 're only looking for ibuprofen ( or something similarly benign .
) He 's leaving the door open for possible future strip searches of 13 year olds if they 're looking for something genuinely dangerous - but you 'd still have to meet at least the reasonable suspicion , if not the probable cause threshold .
Presumably if you meet these thresholds the search is n't unreasonable.This actually reinforces the 4th amendment , because it clarifies that not every search is reasonable just because you have a reasonable suspicion that a crime was committed - the severity of the crime also factors into reasonableness.Also Thomas is an asshat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Souter's saying that no matter how much evidence you have it's never reasonable to strip search a 13 year old if you're only looking for ibuprofen (or something similarly benign.
)He's leaving the door open for possible future strip searches of 13 year olds if they're looking for something genuinely dangerous - but you'd still  have to meet at least the reasonable suspicion, if not the probable cause threshold.
Presumably if you meet these thresholds the search isn't unreasonable.This actually reinforces the 4th amendment, because it clarifies that not every search is reasonable just because you have a reasonable suspicion that a crime was committed - the severity of the crime also factors into reasonableness.Also Thomas is an asshat.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472033</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472639</id>
	<title>Craziness</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245925380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I live in Arizona and love my new adopted state for its scenic beauty and winters that are to die for.  But our political structure is just plain nuts.  We err WAY to far on the side of law enforcement!!  I don't see why we have to be such legal eagles that we have eroded our own rights.  Well, the school district is going to get what it deserves at the expense of the tax payer.  If the school district weren't such blatant fools and thought before acting or reacting, a debacle such as this would not have occurred.  I guess the AZ sun has baked some brains.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in Arizona and love my new adopted state for its scenic beauty and winters that are to die for .
But our political structure is just plain nuts .
We err WAY to far on the side of law enforcement ! !
I do n't see why we have to be such legal eagles that we have eroded our own rights .
Well , the school district is going to get what it deserves at the expense of the tax payer .
If the school district were n't such blatant fools and thought before acting or reacting , a debacle such as this would not have occurred .
I guess the AZ sun has baked some brains .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in Arizona and love my new adopted state for its scenic beauty and winters that are to die for.
But our political structure is just plain nuts.
We err WAY to far on the side of law enforcement!!
I don't see why we have to be such legal eagles that we have eroded our own rights.
Well, the school district is going to get what it deserves at the expense of the tax payer.
If the school district weren't such blatant fools and thought before acting or reacting, a debacle such as this would not have occurred.
I guess the AZ sun has baked some brains.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28476185</id>
	<title>interesting</title>
	<author>CopterHawk</author>
	<datestamp>1245941460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>So a minor with a naked picture of another minor on their phone is a sex offender, but an adult in a position of power who forces a minor to strip is not.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So a minor with a naked picture of another minor on their phone is a sex offender , but an adult in a position of power who forces a minor to strip is not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So a minor with a naked picture of another minor on their phone is a sex offender, but an adult in a position of power who forces a minor to strip is not.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471829</id>
	<title>Never has the suddenoutbreakofcommonsense tag fit</title>
	<author>jockeys</author>
	<datestamp>1245922860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>quite as well as it does now.<br> <br>
I may not be the only rabid libertarian posting here that thinks this was an awful violation of 4A (yeah yeah, I know, 4A doesn't always apply in schools) but I'll go one further and say that the offenders ought to be sent off to federal PMITA prison and branded as sex offenders.
<br> <br>
All for a fucking Advil!</htmltext>
<tokenext>quite as well as it does now .
I may not be the only rabid libertarian posting here that thinks this was an awful violation of 4A ( yeah yeah , I know , 4A does n't always apply in schools ) but I 'll go one further and say that the offenders ought to be sent off to federal PMITA prison and branded as sex offenders .
All for a fucking Advil !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>quite as well as it does now.
I may not be the only rabid libertarian posting here that thinks this was an awful violation of 4A (yeah yeah, I know, 4A doesn't always apply in schools) but I'll go one further and say that the offenders ought to be sent off to federal PMITA prison and branded as sex offenders.
All for a fucking Advil!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28486373</id>
	<title>Re:Another strike against personal responibility</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1246045560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah, there you're wrong!</p><p>It <em>wasn't</em> illegal.</p><p>But it is now, because now there's precedent!</p><p>Wait, I thought courts weren't supposed to write the law...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah , there you 're wrong ! It was n't illegal.But it is now , because now there 's precedent ! Wait , I thought courts were n't supposed to write the law.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah, there you're wrong!It wasn't illegal.But it is now, because now there's precedent!Wait, I thought courts weren't supposed to write the law...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472081</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471899</id>
	<title>Re:My Rights Online?</title>
	<author>KarlIsNotMyName</author>
	<datestamp>1245922980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, it's "Your rights" online. Not necessarily your "online rights".</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , it 's " Your rights " online .
Not necessarily your " online rights " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, it's "Your rights" online.
Not necessarily your "online rights".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471759</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472765</id>
	<title>Re:And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>jeremywc</author>
	<datestamp>1245925860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seems like Thomas has a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence\_Thomas#Fourth\_Amendment" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">history of limiting the Fourth Amendment</a> [wikipedia.org].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems like Thomas has a history of limiting the Fourth Amendment [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like Thomas has a history of limiting the Fourth Amendment [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471837</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473965</id>
	<title>Re:Clarence Thomas's Copy of the Constitution</title>
	<author>djseomun</author>
	<datestamp>1245930960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, he simply interprets it correctly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , he simply interprets it correctly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, he simply interprets it correctly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472019</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472327</id>
	<title>Is she a nigger?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245924300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most darkie ho's are packin ion, nawadameen?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most darkie ho 's are packin ion , nawadameen ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most darkie ho's are packin ion, nawadameen?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473313</id>
	<title>Re:And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245928140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I keep expecting Clarence "Uncle" Thomas to pull off the rubber mask and reveal that he's really Joe Stalin.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I keep expecting Clarence " Uncle " Thomas to pull off the rubber mask and reveal that he 's really Joe Stalin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I keep expecting Clarence "Uncle" Thomas to pull off the rubber mask and reveal that he's really Joe Stalin.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471837</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472597</id>
	<title>Re:All I know is one thing...</title>
	<author>iamhigh</author>
	<datestamp>1245925200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, our society is really effed up right now.  It took the Supreme Court to finally find that the strip search of a 13 year old by a school administrator was wrong.  And if you went up to that school and rightfully kicked the ass of the administrator (or whatever male was closest to the incident, of if your wife kicked the shit out of the female administrator), you would be in jail for a year or more.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , our society is really effed up right now .
It took the Supreme Court to finally find that the strip search of a 13 year old by a school administrator was wrong .
And if you went up to that school and rightfully kicked the ass of the administrator ( or whatever male was closest to the incident , of if your wife kicked the shit out of the female administrator ) , you would be in jail for a year or more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, our society is really effed up right now.
It took the Supreme Court to finally find that the strip search of a 13 year old by a school administrator was wrong.
And if you went up to that school and rightfully kicked the ass of the administrator (or whatever male was closest to the incident, of if your wife kicked the shit out of the female administrator), you would be in jail for a year or more.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472153</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472863</id>
	<title>Weirdest part of this story...</title>
	<author>Itninja</author>
	<datestamp>1245926220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Was hearing the term 'crotch of her panties' repeated copious times by Nina Totenberg when reading the SCOTUS arguments a few weeks ago. Seriously, I think was the raciest thing ever broadcast on NPR. Very surreal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Was hearing the term 'crotch of her panties ' repeated copious times by Nina Totenberg when reading the SCOTUS arguments a few weeks ago .
Seriously , I think was the raciest thing ever broadcast on NPR .
Very surreal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Was hearing the term 'crotch of her panties' repeated copious times by Nina Totenberg when reading the SCOTUS arguments a few weeks ago.
Seriously, I think was the raciest thing ever broadcast on NPR.
Very surreal.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471759</id>
	<title>My Rights Online?</title>
	<author>The Yuckinator</author>
	<datestamp>1245922560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>How exactly is this "online"?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How exactly is this " online " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How exactly is this "online"?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471831</id>
	<title>sue the school?</title>
	<author>blueskies</author>
	<datestamp>1245922860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm assuming the school district is still libel for the actions of it's employees even if the principal got a free pass.</p><p>Strip search a 13 year old girl?  They better be looking for nuclear weapons or at least yellow cake.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm assuming the school district is still libel for the actions of it 's employees even if the principal got a free pass.Strip search a 13 year old girl ?
They better be looking for nuclear weapons or at least yellow cake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm assuming the school district is still libel for the actions of it's employees even if the principal got a free pass.Strip search a 13 year old girl?
They better be looking for nuclear weapons or at least yellow cake.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472171</id>
	<title>Re:And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>LostInTaiwan</author>
	<datestamp>1245923760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>
We went from Thurgood Marshall to Clarence Thomas.  This is what happens when we nominate people on the basis of their skin color.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We went from Thurgood Marshall to Clarence Thomas .
This is what happens when we nominate people on the basis of their skin color .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
We went from Thurgood Marshall to Clarence Thomas.
This is what happens when we nominate people on the basis of their skin color.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471837</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472107</id>
	<title>Re:And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>Nimey</author>
	<datestamp>1245923520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Clarence Thomas: the best argument against affirmative action.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Clarence Thomas : the best argument against affirmative action .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clarence Thomas: the best argument against affirmative action.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471837</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28476831</id>
	<title>Re:And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>dissy</author>
	<datestamp>1245946260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Excuse me, but when did school admins get police powers?</p></div><p>According to the court ruling, just today<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:{</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Excuse me , but when did school admins get police powers ? According to the court ruling , just today : {</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Excuse me, but when did school admins get police powers?According to the court ruling, just today :{
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28473577</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472559</id>
	<title>Re:And the "!" in the 8 to 1 is...</title>
	<author>DiSKiLLeR</author>
	<datestamp>1245925080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>[quote]</p><p>Clarence Thomas, who 'asserted that the majority's finding second-guesses the measures that educators take to maintain discipline "and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge."'</p><p>I can't imagine how forcing a 13-year old girl to strip ensures anyone's health and safety, especially since they were looking for IBUPROFIN, for heaven's sake.[/quote]</p><p>IMO, the fucking educators who conducted the strip search should be charged for child sexual abuse.</p><p>No fucking questions asked.</p><p>This is just disgusting.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ quote ] Clarence Thomas , who 'asserted that the majority 's finding second-guesses the measures that educators take to maintain discipline " and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge .
" 'I ca n't imagine how forcing a 13-year old girl to strip ensures anyone 's health and safety , especially since they were looking for IBUPROFIN , for heaven 's sake .
[ /quote ] IMO , the fucking educators who conducted the strip search should be charged for child sexual abuse.No fucking questions asked.This is just disgusting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[quote]Clarence Thomas, who 'asserted that the majority's finding second-guesses the measures that educators take to maintain discipline "and ensure the health and safety of the students in their charge.
"'I can't imagine how forcing a 13-year old girl to strip ensures anyone's health and safety, especially since they were looking for IBUPROFIN, for heaven's sake.
[/quote]IMO, the fucking educators who conducted the strip search should be charged for child sexual abuse.No fucking questions asked.This is just disgusting.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28471837</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_25_1943232.28472521</id>
	<title>Re:Never has the suddenoutbreakofcommonsense tag f</title>
	<author>binary paladin</author>
	<datestamp>1245924960000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Eh, I don't know how much common sense is going on here.</p><p>1. The fact that it needed to go this high up tells us that there isn't exactly an "outbreak" of commonsense.</p><p>2. Clarence Thomas is insane. When you start making Scalia look like he might not be the most insane person on the SCOTUS that's impressive, but in a very bad way.</p><p>3. Despite saying the girl's rights were violated only two, count'em two, justices thought it would be acceptable to prosecute the boneheads in charge of this. On the rare occasion you can get the government to admit any wrongdoing it's always followed up with, "Well, they were just doing their job..." or "Well, yeah her rights were violated but you can't really expect people working for the government to be liable for anything." I guess you're only allowed to hold people morally accountable for their actions if they're Nazis. Apparently anyone else can just say, "I was just following orders" or "I was just following the law" no matter how obviously grotesque and clusterfuck batshit nuts their actions are.</p><p>The only thing to like about this ruling is that it ISN'T the worst possible ruling they could have made and that it wasn't divided by much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Eh , I do n't know how much common sense is going on here.1 .
The fact that it needed to go this high up tells us that there is n't exactly an " outbreak " of commonsense.2 .
Clarence Thomas is insane .
When you start making Scalia look like he might not be the most insane person on the SCOTUS that 's impressive , but in a very bad way.3 .
Despite saying the girl 's rights were violated only two , count'em two , justices thought it would be acceptable to prosecute the boneheads in charge of this .
On the rare occasion you can get the government to admit any wrongdoing it 's always followed up with , " Well , they were just doing their job... " or " Well , yeah her rights were violated but you ca n't really expect people working for the government to be liable for anything .
" I guess you 're only allowed to hold people morally accountable for their actions if they 're Nazis .
Apparently anyone else can just say , " I was just following orders " or " I was just following the law " no matter how obviously grotesque and clusterfuck batshit nuts their actions are.The only thing to like about this ruling is that it IS N'T the worst possible ruling they could have made and that it was n't divided by much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eh, I don't know how much common sense is going on here.1.
The fact that it needed to go this high up tells us that there isn't exactly an "outbreak" of commonsense.2.
Clarence Thomas is insane.
When you start making Scalia look like he might not be the most insane person on the SCOTUS that's impressive, but in a very bad way.3.
Despite saying the girl's rights were violated only two, count'em two, justices thought it would be acceptable to prosecute the boneheads in charge of this.
On the rare occasion you can get the government to admit any wrongdoing it's always followed up with, "Well, they were just doing their job..." or "Well, yeah her rights were violated but you can't really expect people working for the government to be liable for anything.
" I guess you're only allowed to hold people morally accountable for their actions if they're Nazis.
Apparently anyone else can just say, "I was just following orders" or "I was just following the law" no matter how obviously grotesque and clusterfuck batshit nuts their actions are.The only thing to like about this ruling is that it ISN'T the worst possible ruling they could have made and that it wasn't divided by much.</sentencetext>
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