<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_23_1538216</id>
	<title>The Worst US Cities To Work In IT</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1245773040000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:bcarlson@cxo.com" rel="nofollow">bdcny7927</a> writes with an excerpt from CIO.com to inspire some caution before your next job switch: <i>"IT workers have their choice of many great US cities for work and play (Atlanta, Chicago, Seattle), but what are the cities that you probably should avoid? Here's a very unscientific, highly subjective and unapologetically snarky list of our <a href="http://www.cio.com/article/495555/The\_Worst\_U.S.\_Cities\_to\_Work\_in\_IT">least favorite US tech job locales</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>bdcny7927 writes with an excerpt from CIO.com to inspire some caution before your next job switch : " IT workers have their choice of many great US cities for work and play ( Atlanta , Chicago , Seattle ) , but what are the cities that you probably should avoid ?
Here 's a very unscientific , highly subjective and unapologetically snarky list of our least favorite US tech job locales .
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<sentencetext>bdcny7927 writes with an excerpt from CIO.com to inspire some caution before your next job switch: "IT workers have their choice of many great US cities for work and play (Atlanta, Chicago, Seattle), but what are the cities that you probably should avoid?
Here's a very unscientific, highly subjective and unapologetically snarky list of our least favorite US tech job locales.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441091</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245780300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes!  I too find that any place devoid of millions of humans packed into concrete silos stinks....</p><p>Oh wait, no I don't.  That's just dumb.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes !
I too find that any place devoid of millions of humans packed into concrete silos stinks....Oh wait , no I do n't .
That 's just dumb .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes!
I too find that any place devoid of millions of humans packed into concrete silos stinks....Oh wait, no I don't.
That's just dumb.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444545</id>
	<title>Great if you can afford it...</title>
	<author>Koreantoast</author>
	<datestamp>1245748920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's great that you can afford it.  However, many of us live in cities where there is a significant financial premium that needs to be paid in order to live in a car-free environment.  Those who can't afford $300k+ USD for a loft are relegated to living in the suburbs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's great that you can afford it .
However , many of us live in cities where there is a significant financial premium that needs to be paid in order to live in a car-free environment .
Those who ca n't afford $ 300k + USD for a loft are relegated to living in the suburbs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's great that you can afford it.
However, many of us live in cities where there is a significant financial premium that needs to be paid in order to live in a car-free environment.
Those who can't afford $300k+ USD for a loft are relegated to living in the suburbs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440901</id>
	<title>Obviosuly they missed Cleveland's publicity video</title>
	<author>howardd21</author>
	<datestamp>1245779700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They must have missed this, extolling the virtues of Cleveland: <br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>They must have missed this , extolling the virtues of Cleveland : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = ysmLA5TqbIY [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They must have missed this, extolling the virtues of Cleveland: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441627</id>
	<title>Re:Upstate New York Isn't That Bad...</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1245782280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"10 inches on the ground at a time; "</p><p>and that's 10 inches too many.*</p><p>The weather sucks, I base that on It snows, and everything you described.<br>OTOH, that's just me. You seem to like it, so good for you.<br>Maybe you should just realize that it's not everyone's cup of tea?<br>Hint: we know when it says 115 inches it's not all at once.</p><p>*That's what SHE said* Giggity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" 10 inches on the ground at a time ; " and that 's 10 inches too many .
* The weather sucks , I base that on It snows , and everything you described.OTOH , that 's just me .
You seem to like it , so good for you.Maybe you should just realize that it 's not everyone 's cup of tea ? Hint : we know when it says 115 inches it 's not all at once .
* That 's what SHE said * Giggity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"10 inches on the ground at a time; "and that's 10 inches too many.
*The weather sucks, I base that on It snows, and everything you described.OTOH, that's just me.
You seem to like it, so good for you.Maybe you should just realize that it's not everyone's cup of tea?Hint: we know when it says 115 inches it's not all at once.
*That's what SHE said* Giggity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441761</id>
	<title>Re:No way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245782700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think the proper acronym is DINK - Dual Income No Kids. This led me to come up with the SINKING acronym for an old coworker. It stands for Single Income No Kids Incredibly Needy Girlfriend.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the proper acronym is DINK - Dual Income No Kids .
This led me to come up with the SINKING acronym for an old coworker .
It stands for Single Income No Kids Incredibly Needy Girlfriend .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the proper acronym is DINK - Dual Income No Kids.
This led me to come up with the SINKING acronym for an old coworker.
It stands for Single Income No Kids Incredibly Needy Girlfriend.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443087</id>
	<title>Re:The complete list</title>
	<author>rastakid</author>
	<datestamp>1245787140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't get this. Does that mean that in the whole city of Detroit there are only 449 jobs available? I mean, for a city with 900,000+ people, that's extremely little.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get this .
Does that mean that in the whole city of Detroit there are only 449 jobs available ?
I mean , for a city with 900,000 + people , that 's extremely little .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't get this.
Does that mean that in the whole city of Detroit there are only 449 jobs available?
I mean, for a city with 900,000+ people, that's extremely little.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444487</id>
	<title>Re:No way</title>
	<author>hab136</author>
	<datestamp>1245748740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I think the proper acronym is DINK - Dual Income No Kids</p></div></blockquote><p>I've also seen DINC - Dual Income, No Children.</p><p>But maybe he actually meant Triple Income, No Kids?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the proper acronym is DINK - Dual Income No KidsI 've also seen DINC - Dual Income , No Children.But maybe he actually meant Triple Income , No Kids ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the proper acronym is DINK - Dual Income No KidsI've also seen DINC - Dual Income, No Children.But maybe he actually meant Triple Income, No Kids?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443001</id>
	<title>Re:Orlando</title>
	<author>ChefInnocent</author>
	<datestamp>1245786900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You forgot to mention in "The Bad" column to bugs the size of sewer rats.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You forgot to mention in " The Bad " column to bugs the size of sewer rats .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You forgot to mention in "The Bad" column to bugs the size of sewer rats.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442375</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>COMON$</author>
	<datestamp>1245784680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lincoln Omaha is terrible,  little over a million people in the area and a dice search pulled up 112 jobs, mostly consulting companies...and our unemployment fell last year...But it is a good place to live though.  I blame the local gov't for not attracting tech companies,  we are a prime location for tech support (accent neutral, centrally located).  We should see more corporations moving TO here not away.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lincoln Omaha is terrible , little over a million people in the area and a dice search pulled up 112 jobs , mostly consulting companies...and our unemployment fell last year...But it is a good place to live though .
I blame the local gov't for not attracting tech companies , we are a prime location for tech support ( accent neutral , centrally located ) .
We should see more corporations moving TO here not away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lincoln Omaha is terrible,  little over a million people in the area and a dice search pulled up 112 jobs, mostly consulting companies...and our unemployment fell last year...But it is a good place to live though.
I blame the local gov't for not attracting tech companies,  we are a prime location for tech support (accent neutral, centrally located).
We should see more corporations moving TO here not away.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443731</id>
	<title>Re:Big market bias</title>
	<author>neckjonez</author>
	<datestamp>1245789420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The key in SoCal is to minimize the commute. I have known people (including myself) who will move across town if taking another job, only to avoid traffic. Conversely, I will not take a job if I know the commute will kill me. At the end of the day you just have to consider how much your time is worth, not to mention your sanity. $10k, $20k year? I don't think so. Having lived here for 10+ years, I know the do's and dont's of commuting in LA.

DO:

minimize the commute
learn the surface streets
pay attention when driving (you know who you are. then again maybe you don't)
support your local music scene

DONT:

take the 405, anytime
take the 10 west in the AM
get mad if the freeway is jammed at midnight, it just happens
live on the east side and commute to the west side
live in Orange County and work in LA
live in LA and work in Orange County


It's not for everyone, but I love it here.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The key in SoCal is to minimize the commute .
I have known people ( including myself ) who will move across town if taking another job , only to avoid traffic .
Conversely , I will not take a job if I know the commute will kill me .
At the end of the day you just have to consider how much your time is worth , not to mention your sanity .
$ 10k , $ 20k year ?
I do n't think so .
Having lived here for 10 + years , I know the do 's and dont 's of commuting in LA .
DO : minimize the commute learn the surface streets pay attention when driving ( you know who you are .
then again maybe you do n't ) support your local music scene DONT : take the 405 , anytime take the 10 west in the AM get mad if the freeway is jammed at midnight , it just happens live on the east side and commute to the west side live in Orange County and work in LA live in LA and work in Orange County It 's not for everyone , but I love it here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The key in SoCal is to minimize the commute.
I have known people (including myself) who will move across town if taking another job, only to avoid traffic.
Conversely, I will not take a job if I know the commute will kill me.
At the end of the day you just have to consider how much your time is worth, not to mention your sanity.
$10k, $20k year?
I don't think so.
Having lived here for 10+ years, I know the do's and dont's of commuting in LA.
DO:

minimize the commute
learn the surface streets
pay attention when driving (you know who you are.
then again maybe you don't)
support your local music scene

DONT:

take the 405, anytime
take the 10 west in the AM
get mad if the freeway is jammed at midnight, it just happens
live on the east side and commute to the west side
live in Orange County and work in LA
live in LA and work in Orange County


It's not for everyone, but I love it here.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28448169</id>
	<title>Pros and cons of working in NYC.</title>
	<author>MrCrassic</author>
	<datestamp>1245768240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not sure if someone's already done this, but here are some good and bad reasons to consider working here in "The City."<br><b>Pros:</b></p><ul><li>LOTS of IT jobs are available around here (though obviously not as many as there were pre-recession).</li><li>A fair amount of the offices here are actually really nice.</li><li>Nightlife is freaking outstanding, even if you're conservative.</li><li>The subway is actually really, really efficient during working hours.</li><li>Salaries are generally higher.</li><li>Tons upon tons of diversity (if that's of any importance).</li><li>Copious amounts of leisurely activities, many of which never age (in enjoyment).</li></ul><p><b>Cons</b></p><ul><li>Living expenses are very high, especially now.</li><li>People are generally edgy, especially around Wall Street.</li><li>Pollution is something of a problem.</li><li>The atmosphere is VERY fast and somewhat unforgiving; it can cause a large transitional shock.</li><li>Don't even THINK of driving through the city (except from Monday to Thursday, 11PM to around 5AM).</li><li>Basic dining can be expensive, depending on where you're moving from.</li><li>The "New York" way of life might not be for everyone.</li></ul><p>Overall, I think that NYC is a great place to be and work in, and is especially a very good place to live if you're young and child-less. I wouldn't completely recommend it for families, but it's definitely do-able. (Children born and raised in NYC are of a different breed, though. The environment here can really make a difference, like anywhere else.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure if someone 's already done this , but here are some good and bad reasons to consider working here in " The City .
" Pros : LOTS of IT jobs are available around here ( though obviously not as many as there were pre-recession ) .A fair amount of the offices here are actually really nice.Nightlife is freaking outstanding , even if you 're conservative.The subway is actually really , really efficient during working hours.Salaries are generally higher.Tons upon tons of diversity ( if that 's of any importance ) .Copious amounts of leisurely activities , many of which never age ( in enjoyment ) .ConsLiving expenses are very high , especially now.People are generally edgy , especially around Wall Street.Pollution is something of a problem.The atmosphere is VERY fast and somewhat unforgiving ; it can cause a large transitional shock.Do n't even THINK of driving through the city ( except from Monday to Thursday , 11PM to around 5AM ) .Basic dining can be expensive , depending on where you 're moving from.The " New York " way of life might not be for everyone.Overall , I think that NYC is a great place to be and work in , and is especially a very good place to live if you 're young and child-less .
I would n't completely recommend it for families , but it 's definitely do-able .
( Children born and raised in NYC are of a different breed , though .
The environment here can really make a difference , like anywhere else .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure if someone's already done this, but here are some good and bad reasons to consider working here in "The City.
"Pros:LOTS of IT jobs are available around here (though obviously not as many as there were pre-recession).A fair amount of the offices here are actually really nice.Nightlife is freaking outstanding, even if you're conservative.The subway is actually really, really efficient during working hours.Salaries are generally higher.Tons upon tons of diversity (if that's of any importance).Copious amounts of leisurely activities, many of which never age (in enjoyment).ConsLiving expenses are very high, especially now.People are generally edgy, especially around Wall Street.Pollution is something of a problem.The atmosphere is VERY fast and somewhat unforgiving; it can cause a large transitional shock.Don't even THINK of driving through the city (except from Monday to Thursday, 11PM to around 5AM).Basic dining can be expensive, depending on where you're moving from.The "New York" way of life might not be for everyone.Overall, I think that NYC is a great place to be and work in, and is especially a very good place to live if you're young and child-less.
I wouldn't completely recommend it for families, but it's definitely do-able.
(Children born and raised in NYC are of a different breed, though.
The environment here can really make a difference, like anywhere else.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443651</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>pnuema</author>
	<datestamp>1245789120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>St. Louis. It's not New York, but it still has world class attractions (#1 zoo in the country, top 10 symphony and art museum). I live fifteen minutes from just about anywhere I could want to be, including downtown. Has one of the best costs of living in the country (to maintain my buying power in a move to San Francisco my income would have to double), great place to raise a family - lots of free or low cost things to do with the kids. Best of all, I drive an hour in any direction and I'm in the woods. The weather has a lot of variety, and it is flyover country, but it has a lot to offer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>St. Louis. It 's not New York , but it still has world class attractions ( # 1 zoo in the country , top 10 symphony and art museum ) .
I live fifteen minutes from just about anywhere I could want to be , including downtown .
Has one of the best costs of living in the country ( to maintain my buying power in a move to San Francisco my income would have to double ) , great place to raise a family - lots of free or low cost things to do with the kids .
Best of all , I drive an hour in any direction and I 'm in the woods .
The weather has a lot of variety , and it is flyover country , but it has a lot to offer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>St. Louis. It's not New York, but it still has world class attractions (#1 zoo in the country, top 10 symphony and art museum).
I live fifteen minutes from just about anywhere I could want to be, including downtown.
Has one of the best costs of living in the country (to maintain my buying power in a move to San Francisco my income would have to double), great place to raise a family - lots of free or low cost things to do with the kids.
Best of all, I drive an hour in any direction and I'm in the woods.
The weather has a lot of variety, and it is flyover country, but it has a lot to offer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440959</id>
	<title>This is Sarah Palin, isn't it?</title>
	<author>Foofoobar</author>
	<datestamp>1245779880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>C'mon, you'r not foolin' anyone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>C'mon , you'r not foolin ' anyone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>C'mon, you'r not foolin' anyone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443607</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>Colonel Korn</author>
	<datestamp>1245789000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Speaking as someone who moved from CA to MI, and who has also lived elsewhere in the country...</p><p>1) We've got more coastline than California - and it's fresh water.<br>---Yes, but I prefer cliffs and the ocean.  Still, the MI coast is very nice.  I wish that there were mountains here in MI, though.  It's so incredibly flat, except for the UP, which is rather remote.  In CA you have the ocean on one side, then some 2-4k foot tall mountains, than 2-3 hours to the east are 10-14k peaks.  CA also has rain forests, and deserts.  I miss the variety.</p><p>2) We've got 4 seasons (which is good or bad depending on your preference).<br>---Winter: Very few people go outside.  Plans that involve any travel have a 1/5 chance of needing to be changed unless you are willing to drive on uncleared roads.  Many drivers don't think that tailgating should be put on hold when the roads are icy, so there are major delays (okay, only around Detroit) due to countless accidents.</p><p>--Spring: Once it stops snowing, things are gray and muddy for 1-2 months before anything green appears.  Then plants suddenly appear and they do it with a vengeance.  I marvel at the explosion of plant life.  The green part of spring lasts about 1-1.5 months before...</p><p>-Summer: People spend all their time in the sun and complain (in my town here) about how cold it is whenever the 90\% humid air drops below 80 degrees F.  Having been deprived of sunlight all winter, many people have an obsession with it now.  An odd side effect that I see all across the mid-west is the popularity of tanning salons, and of the very dark tan worn for as much of the year as possible.  It leads to a lot of 30 year old people looking 45 because of skin damage.</p><p>-Fall: 2-3 months of beautiful weather.  My favorite time of the year here.</p><p>3) More second homes than any other state (most on the water).</p><p>-I'm not surprised to hear this.  Nearly everyone I know here has a house "up north"</p><p>4) We've don't get earthquakes, hurricanes, forest fires, termites, poisonous spiders/snakes.</p><p>-No termites, really?  I think we do have latrodectus variolus (black widows).  We do get flooding, both widespread and localized to a basement when the "sump pump" dies.  I'd never even heard of such a thing before I moved here.</p><p>5) We do get the occasional tornado, but far less than most of the midwest.</p><p>-There are half a dozen tornado warnings here each summer, but only one tornado near town every 30 years.</p><p>6) Education: we've got plenty of geek-schools.</p><p>-Ann Arbor has a great school (and is a great town).  In terms of high schools, I'm a bit less positive.  My significant other taught some college classes here and found that a lot of students, even brilliant students, had never written a single research paper in high school.  Students who were smart enough to go to any college but who didn't know their way around a bibliography or citation were wronged by their schools.  We spoke to some high school teachers who said that the state curriculum dropped research papers when the No Child Left Behind Act appeared.  A lot of high schools still teach research papers, but a lot don't, because it's no longer a required topic by the state.  I think that's a mistake.</p><p>7) Manufacturing. Does anyone care? We can build anything here - tech included</p><p>-I wonder how hard it will be to retool factories that have been closed for years to accommodate new goods.</p><p>8) We've got an enormous set of technically capable people just waiting for companies to set up shop here.</p><p>-That's absolutely true.</p><p>Thinking MI makes me sad.  I'm definitely an outsider (and in my oddly insular little area I've heard people from elsewhere referred to as Outsiders with a capital O), but I've found enough to like that I've got some affection for the state.  I hope that the plans to revive the state with green industries work, but I worry that the decay of places like Detroit may not stop.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Speaking as someone who moved from CA to MI , and who has also lived elsewhere in the country...1 ) We 've got more coastline than California - and it 's fresh water.---Yes , but I prefer cliffs and the ocean .
Still , the MI coast is very nice .
I wish that there were mountains here in MI , though .
It 's so incredibly flat , except for the UP , which is rather remote .
In CA you have the ocean on one side , then some 2-4k foot tall mountains , than 2-3 hours to the east are 10-14k peaks .
CA also has rain forests , and deserts .
I miss the variety.2 ) We 've got 4 seasons ( which is good or bad depending on your preference ) .---Winter : Very few people go outside .
Plans that involve any travel have a 1/5 chance of needing to be changed unless you are willing to drive on uncleared roads .
Many drivers do n't think that tailgating should be put on hold when the roads are icy , so there are major delays ( okay , only around Detroit ) due to countless accidents.--Spring : Once it stops snowing , things are gray and muddy for 1-2 months before anything green appears .
Then plants suddenly appear and they do it with a vengeance .
I marvel at the explosion of plant life .
The green part of spring lasts about 1-1.5 months before...-Summer : People spend all their time in the sun and complain ( in my town here ) about how cold it is whenever the 90 \ % humid air drops below 80 degrees F. Having been deprived of sunlight all winter , many people have an obsession with it now .
An odd side effect that I see all across the mid-west is the popularity of tanning salons , and of the very dark tan worn for as much of the year as possible .
It leads to a lot of 30 year old people looking 45 because of skin damage.-Fall : 2-3 months of beautiful weather .
My favorite time of the year here.3 ) More second homes than any other state ( most on the water ) .-I 'm not surprised to hear this .
Nearly everyone I know here has a house " up north " 4 ) We 've do n't get earthquakes , hurricanes , forest fires , termites , poisonous spiders/snakes.-No termites , really ?
I think we do have latrodectus variolus ( black widows ) .
We do get flooding , both widespread and localized to a basement when the " sump pump " dies .
I 'd never even heard of such a thing before I moved here.5 ) We do get the occasional tornado , but far less than most of the midwest.-There are half a dozen tornado warnings here each summer , but only one tornado near town every 30 years.6 ) Education : we 've got plenty of geek-schools.-Ann Arbor has a great school ( and is a great town ) .
In terms of high schools , I 'm a bit less positive .
My significant other taught some college classes here and found that a lot of students , even brilliant students , had never written a single research paper in high school .
Students who were smart enough to go to any college but who did n't know their way around a bibliography or citation were wronged by their schools .
We spoke to some high school teachers who said that the state curriculum dropped research papers when the No Child Left Behind Act appeared .
A lot of high schools still teach research papers , but a lot do n't , because it 's no longer a required topic by the state .
I think that 's a mistake.7 ) Manufacturing .
Does anyone care ?
We can build anything here - tech included-I wonder how hard it will be to retool factories that have been closed for years to accommodate new goods.8 ) We 've got an enormous set of technically capable people just waiting for companies to set up shop here.-That 's absolutely true.Thinking MI makes me sad .
I 'm definitely an outsider ( and in my oddly insular little area I 've heard people from elsewhere referred to as Outsiders with a capital O ) , but I 've found enough to like that I 've got some affection for the state .
I hope that the plans to revive the state with green industries work , but I worry that the decay of places like Detroit may not stop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Speaking as someone who moved from CA to MI, and who has also lived elsewhere in the country...1) We've got more coastline than California - and it's fresh water.---Yes, but I prefer cliffs and the ocean.
Still, the MI coast is very nice.
I wish that there were mountains here in MI, though.
It's so incredibly flat, except for the UP, which is rather remote.
In CA you have the ocean on one side, then some 2-4k foot tall mountains, than 2-3 hours to the east are 10-14k peaks.
CA also has rain forests, and deserts.
I miss the variety.2) We've got 4 seasons (which is good or bad depending on your preference).---Winter: Very few people go outside.
Plans that involve any travel have a 1/5 chance of needing to be changed unless you are willing to drive on uncleared roads.
Many drivers don't think that tailgating should be put on hold when the roads are icy, so there are major delays (okay, only around Detroit) due to countless accidents.--Spring: Once it stops snowing, things are gray and muddy for 1-2 months before anything green appears.
Then plants suddenly appear and they do it with a vengeance.
I marvel at the explosion of plant life.
The green part of spring lasts about 1-1.5 months before...-Summer: People spend all their time in the sun and complain (in my town here) about how cold it is whenever the 90\% humid air drops below 80 degrees F.  Having been deprived of sunlight all winter, many people have an obsession with it now.
An odd side effect that I see all across the mid-west is the popularity of tanning salons, and of the very dark tan worn for as much of the year as possible.
It leads to a lot of 30 year old people looking 45 because of skin damage.-Fall: 2-3 months of beautiful weather.
My favorite time of the year here.3) More second homes than any other state (most on the water).-I'm not surprised to hear this.
Nearly everyone I know here has a house "up north"4) We've don't get earthquakes, hurricanes, forest fires, termites, poisonous spiders/snakes.-No termites, really?
I think we do have latrodectus variolus (black widows).
We do get flooding, both widespread and localized to a basement when the "sump pump" dies.
I'd never even heard of such a thing before I moved here.5) We do get the occasional tornado, but far less than most of the midwest.-There are half a dozen tornado warnings here each summer, but only one tornado near town every 30 years.6) Education: we've got plenty of geek-schools.-Ann Arbor has a great school (and is a great town).
In terms of high schools, I'm a bit less positive.
My significant other taught some college classes here and found that a lot of students, even brilliant students, had never written a single research paper in high school.
Students who were smart enough to go to any college but who didn't know their way around a bibliography or citation were wronged by their schools.
We spoke to some high school teachers who said that the state curriculum dropped research papers when the No Child Left Behind Act appeared.
A lot of high schools still teach research papers, but a lot don't, because it's no longer a required topic by the state.
I think that's a mistake.7) Manufacturing.
Does anyone care?
We can build anything here - tech included-I wonder how hard it will be to retool factories that have been closed for years to accommodate new goods.8) We've got an enormous set of technically capable people just waiting for companies to set up shop here.-That's absolutely true.Thinking MI makes me sad.
I'm definitely an outsider (and in my oddly insular little area I've heard people from elsewhere referred to as Outsiders with a capital O), but I've found enough to like that I've got some affection for the state.
I hope that the plans to revive the state with green industries work, but I worry that the decay of places like Detroit may not stop.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440143</id>
	<title>Urban jungles</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245776880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've never seen one proper city that didn't feel like a very suffocating place, full of busy little bees who have no idea what it is to take the time to smell the roses.  I could never live in one.  Any ideas about which suburban or rural areas are good/bad to work in for IT jobs?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've never seen one proper city that did n't feel like a very suffocating place , full of busy little bees who have no idea what it is to take the time to smell the roses .
I could never live in one .
Any ideas about which suburban or rural areas are good/bad to work in for IT jobs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've never seen one proper city that didn't feel like a very suffocating place, full of busy little bees who have no idea what it is to take the time to smell the roses.
I could never live in one.
Any ideas about which suburban or rural areas are good/bad to work in for IT jobs?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440337</id>
	<title>Alaska is nice - if you can keep a job</title>
	<author>heffy</author>
	<datestamp>1245777660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wouldn't mind working in Alaska - lots of fresh seafood, cheap real estate, small town feel - if I can be sure my job is secure. Just like working in IT in some small midwest town, there aren't many options for switching jobs if you need to switch. How many large companies are hiring if you're an Oracle DBA in Alaska?<br> <br>

That's the beauty of Silicon Valley. I can work at a company for a few years and move to another, similarly-sized company at a higher position without much hesitation or worry. There are hundreds, maybe thousands of small companies looking at hiring IT folks. That kind of job security is what makes California much more appealing than a smaller city.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't mind working in Alaska - lots of fresh seafood , cheap real estate , small town feel - if I can be sure my job is secure .
Just like working in IT in some small midwest town , there are n't many options for switching jobs if you need to switch .
How many large companies are hiring if you 're an Oracle DBA in Alaska ?
That 's the beauty of Silicon Valley .
I can work at a company for a few years and move to another , similarly-sized company at a higher position without much hesitation or worry .
There are hundreds , maybe thousands of small companies looking at hiring IT folks .
That kind of job security is what makes California much more appealing than a smaller city .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't mind working in Alaska - lots of fresh seafood, cheap real estate, small town feel - if I can be sure my job is secure.
Just like working in IT in some small midwest town, there aren't many options for switching jobs if you need to switch.
How many large companies are hiring if you're an Oracle DBA in Alaska?
That's the beauty of Silicon Valley.
I can work at a company for a few years and move to another, similarly-sized company at a higher position without much hesitation or worry.
There are hundreds, maybe thousands of small companies looking at hiring IT folks.
That kind of job security is what makes California much more appealing than a smaller city.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442739</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>twistedsymphony</author>
	<datestamp>1245785940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I love the city because of how much is going on, lots of interesting hole in the wall places to hang out, meet people, do interesting things, etc.
<br> <br>
I live in a rural area though and here's why: I decided that I want a few things out of where I live:
<ul>
<li>a garage where I can work on my cars</li><li>an office where I can work on my electronics/computer projects</li><li>a home theater room big enough to support a projector, proper surround sound and seat a half dozen people comfortably</li></ul><p>
I bought a small house in New Hampshire and work in IT for a manufacturer, the pays not the best, the jobs not the best, but I'm satisfied with both of those and I get to live in the home I wanted for relatively cheap money. I'm walking distance (half mile) from my local down town which certainly isn't as happening as any city to be sure, but there are some restaurants and small shops. My house is surrounded by trees, I have a large back yard with a patio where I can have bonfires and cookouts. It's got a guest room where friends can visit and spend the night and if I really want to catch a show in the city, it's a little over an hours drive to Boston...
<br> <br>
By comparison a friend of mine, same age, same vocation, lives outside of Boston makes about 20K more a year than I do, but his condo was close to THREE times what I paid for my house (nevermind the condo fees and taxes), and it's smaller than my college apartment. Even though he's paying city prices, he's not walking distance from anything, had has his car broken into a number of times sitting in the lot outside his condo, and for what?
<br> <br>
My company has a division in LA and they've tried to get me to move out there a number of times, the cost of living increase isn't worth what I'd be sacrificing... I've lived in the city, and I've lived in rural areas... there is a lot of middle ground, the key is figuring out what is truly important to you and finding the middle ground that suites your needs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love the city because of how much is going on , lots of interesting hole in the wall places to hang out , meet people , do interesting things , etc .
I live in a rural area though and here 's why : I decided that I want a few things out of where I live : a garage where I can work on my carsan office where I can work on my electronics/computer projectsa home theater room big enough to support a projector , proper surround sound and seat a half dozen people comfortably I bought a small house in New Hampshire and work in IT for a manufacturer , the pays not the best , the jobs not the best , but I 'm satisfied with both of those and I get to live in the home I wanted for relatively cheap money .
I 'm walking distance ( half mile ) from my local down town which certainly is n't as happening as any city to be sure , but there are some restaurants and small shops .
My house is surrounded by trees , I have a large back yard with a patio where I can have bonfires and cookouts .
It 's got a guest room where friends can visit and spend the night and if I really want to catch a show in the city , it 's a little over an hours drive to Boston.. . By comparison a friend of mine , same age , same vocation , lives outside of Boston makes about 20K more a year than I do , but his condo was close to THREE times what I paid for my house ( nevermind the condo fees and taxes ) , and it 's smaller than my college apartment .
Even though he 's paying city prices , he 's not walking distance from anything , had has his car broken into a number of times sitting in the lot outside his condo , and for what ?
My company has a division in LA and they 've tried to get me to move out there a number of times , the cost of living increase is n't worth what I 'd be sacrificing... I 've lived in the city , and I 've lived in rural areas... there is a lot of middle ground , the key is figuring out what is truly important to you and finding the middle ground that suites your needs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love the city because of how much is going on, lots of interesting hole in the wall places to hang out, meet people, do interesting things, etc.
I live in a rural area though and here's why: I decided that I want a few things out of where I live:

a garage where I can work on my carsan office where I can work on my electronics/computer projectsa home theater room big enough to support a projector, proper surround sound and seat a half dozen people comfortably
I bought a small house in New Hampshire and work in IT for a manufacturer, the pays not the best, the jobs not the best, but I'm satisfied with both of those and I get to live in the home I wanted for relatively cheap money.
I'm walking distance (half mile) from my local down town which certainly isn't as happening as any city to be sure, but there are some restaurants and small shops.
My house is surrounded by trees, I have a large back yard with a patio where I can have bonfires and cookouts.
It's got a guest room where friends can visit and spend the night and if I really want to catch a show in the city, it's a little over an hours drive to Boston...
 
By comparison a friend of mine, same age, same vocation, lives outside of Boston makes about 20K more a year than I do, but his condo was close to THREE times what I paid for my house (nevermind the condo fees and taxes), and it's smaller than my college apartment.
Even though he's paying city prices, he's not walking distance from anything, had has his car broken into a number of times sitting in the lot outside his condo, and for what?
My company has a division in LA and they've tried to get me to move out there a number of times, the cost of living increase isn't worth what I'd be sacrificing... I've lived in the city, and I've lived in rural areas... there is a lot of middle ground, the key is figuring out what is truly important to you and finding the middle ground that suites your needs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441407</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>gr8\_phk</author>
	<datestamp>1245781560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sure, they show a picture of some crappy neighborhood in the city. Just north, Oakland county is one of the richest in the nation. The other suburbs are just fine too. Let's set Detroit aside for a moment and consider Michigan in general. Some points:<br>
1) We've got more coastline than California - and it's fresh water.<br>
2) We've got 4 seasons (which is good or bad depending on your preference).<br>
3) More second homes than any other state (most on the water).<br>
4) We've don't get earthquakes, hurricanes, forest fires, termites, poisonous spiders/snakes.<br>
5) We do get the occasional tornado, but far less than most of the midwest.<br>
6) Education: we've got plenty of geek-schools.<br>
7) Manufacturing. Does anyone care? We can build anything here - tech included<br>
8) We've got an enormous set of technically capable people just waiting for companies to set up shop here.<br>
Outside the 139 square miles of Detroit, Michigan is a paradise compared to a lot of places.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , they show a picture of some crappy neighborhood in the city .
Just north , Oakland county is one of the richest in the nation .
The other suburbs are just fine too .
Let 's set Detroit aside for a moment and consider Michigan in general .
Some points : 1 ) We 've got more coastline than California - and it 's fresh water .
2 ) We 've got 4 seasons ( which is good or bad depending on your preference ) .
3 ) More second homes than any other state ( most on the water ) .
4 ) We 've do n't get earthquakes , hurricanes , forest fires , termites , poisonous spiders/snakes .
5 ) We do get the occasional tornado , but far less than most of the midwest .
6 ) Education : we 've got plenty of geek-schools .
7 ) Manufacturing .
Does anyone care ?
We can build anything here - tech included 8 ) We 've got an enormous set of technically capable people just waiting for companies to set up shop here .
Outside the 139 square miles of Detroit , Michigan is a paradise compared to a lot of places .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, they show a picture of some crappy neighborhood in the city.
Just north, Oakland county is one of the richest in the nation.
The other suburbs are just fine too.
Let's set Detroit aside for a moment and consider Michigan in general.
Some points:
1) We've got more coastline than California - and it's fresh water.
2) We've got 4 seasons (which is good or bad depending on your preference).
3) More second homes than any other state (most on the water).
4) We've don't get earthquakes, hurricanes, forest fires, termites, poisonous spiders/snakes.
5) We do get the occasional tornado, but far less than most of the midwest.
6) Education: we've got plenty of geek-schools.
7) Manufacturing.
Does anyone care?
We can build anything here - tech included
8) We've got an enormous set of technically capable people just waiting for companies to set up shop here.
Outside the 139 square miles of Detroit, Michigan is a paradise compared to a lot of places.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28448179</id>
	<title>Re:No way</title>
	<author>jerrydel</author>
	<datestamp>1245768240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow, you used the word "nuclear" and "Unibomber" in the same sentence!  Guess you're not worried that the Feds will...<br> <br>

Hey, where'd all these guys in riot gear come from?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , you used the word " nuclear " and " Unibomber " in the same sentence !
Guess you 're not worried that the Feds will.. . Hey , where 'd all these guys in riot gear come from ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, you used the word "nuclear" and "Unibomber" in the same sentence!
Guess you're not worried that the Feds will... 

Hey, where'd all these guys in riot gear come from?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440179</id>
	<title>Bozeman MT</title>
	<author>Sponge Bath</author>
	<datestamp>1245777000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where until recently, your passwords were government property.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where until recently , your passwords were government property .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where until recently, your passwords were government property.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440167</id>
	<title>Gary Indiana</title>
	<author>JeanBaptiste</author>
	<datestamp>1245776940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>makes Detroit look like Paris.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>makes Detroit look like Paris .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>makes Detroit look like Paris.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28445011</id>
	<title>Hollywood</title>
	<author>tknd</author>
	<datestamp>1245750540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
But we have Hollywood. That is +50\% culture and +1 happy citizen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But we have Hollywood .
That is + 50 \ % culture and + 1 happy citizen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
But we have Hollywood.
That is +50\% culture and +1 happy citizen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440659</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>iamhigh</author>
	<datestamp>1245778800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's CIO.com, nothing they talk about has anything to do with IT!</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's CIO.com , nothing they talk about has anything to do with IT !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's CIO.com, nothing they talk about has anything to do with IT!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440645</id>
	<title>Snarky indeed...</title>
	<author>merc</author>
	<datestamp>1245778740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I live and work in San Francisco and quite frankly I love it. I've never experienced any of the issues the article claims plague our city (I'm not sure what iJacking is, but my eye sockets are just fine).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I live and work in San Francisco and quite frankly I love it .
I 've never experienced any of the issues the article claims plague our city ( I 'm not sure what iJacking is , but my eye sockets are just fine ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live and work in San Francisco and quite frankly I love it.
I've never experienced any of the issues the article claims plague our city (I'm not sure what iJacking is, but my eye sockets are just fine).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442145</id>
	<title>Re:Bozeman MT</title>
	<author>SkinnyKid63</author>
	<datestamp>1245783900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Having lived near Bozeman, it's actually a pretty nice town, with great outdoor activities, decent airport, and a decent number of IT companies. All in all, a pretty good place to live/raise a family, assuming you don't work for the local government.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Having lived near Bozeman , it 's actually a pretty nice town , with great outdoor activities , decent airport , and a decent number of IT companies .
All in all , a pretty good place to live/raise a family , assuming you do n't work for the local government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having lived near Bozeman, it's actually a pretty nice town, with great outdoor activities, decent airport, and a decent number of IT companies.
All in all, a pretty good place to live/raise a family, assuming you don't work for the local government.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440277</id>
	<title>Re:No way</title>
	<author>Skyshadow</author>
	<datestamp>1245777360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Plus you get paid to live there by the Federal government. Of course, night life is somewhat limited and then there's always the Sarah Palin thing.
<br> <br>
The mistake this article makes it the classic one of assuming that IT folks (a) all want the same sort of things from life and (b) need to live within commuting distance of work. In reality, we cover the spectrum pretty well from TINKs to nuclear family members to shit-crazy Unibomber types to living in our mothers' basements.
<br> <br>
My fondest hope is to eventually work myself to a point where I can telecommute regularly and just live within an hour or two of a significant airport (aka, I need to be valuable enough to get away with this).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Plus you get paid to live there by the Federal government .
Of course , night life is somewhat limited and then there 's always the Sarah Palin thing .
The mistake this article makes it the classic one of assuming that IT folks ( a ) all want the same sort of things from life and ( b ) need to live within commuting distance of work .
In reality , we cover the spectrum pretty well from TINKs to nuclear family members to shit-crazy Unibomber types to living in our mothers ' basements .
My fondest hope is to eventually work myself to a point where I can telecommute regularly and just live within an hour or two of a significant airport ( aka , I need to be valuable enough to get away with this ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plus you get paid to live there by the Federal government.
Of course, night life is somewhat limited and then there's always the Sarah Palin thing.
The mistake this article makes it the classic one of assuming that IT folks (a) all want the same sort of things from life and (b) need to live within commuting distance of work.
In reality, we cover the spectrum pretty well from TINKs to nuclear family members to shit-crazy Unibomber types to living in our mothers' basements.
My fondest hope is to eventually work myself to a point where I can telecommute regularly and just live within an hour or two of a significant airport (aka, I need to be valuable enough to get away with this).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28447107</id>
	<title>Alaska is badass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245759720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm working in IT in Alaska, and it's super badass.  There is very little competition, and lots of idiots, so if you know your stuff you're good to go.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm working in IT in Alaska , and it 's super badass .
There is very little competition , and lots of idiots , so if you know your stuff you 're good to go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm working in IT in Alaska, and it's super badass.
There is very little competition, and lots of idiots, so if you know your stuff you're good to go.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440825</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>morgan\_greywolf</author>
	<datestamp>1245779340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, how's the weather up there in Detroit?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , how 's the weather up there in Detroit ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, how's the weather up there in Detroit?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441287</id>
	<title>Walmart has among the most advance retail IT</title>
	<author>peter303</author>
	<datestamp>1245781080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thats how they plowed into being the world's number one low-price retailer. They move a half trillion of product a year and know where most of it is any anytime to the single item. I not interested in business IT, but I have to admire their results. (Maybe they should have used some of that dough to hire style consultants like a Martha Stewart.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thats how they plowed into being the world 's number one low-price retailer .
They move a half trillion of product a year and know where most of it is any anytime to the single item .
I not interested in business IT , but I have to admire their results .
( Maybe they should have used some of that dough to hire style consultants like a Martha Stewart .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thats how they plowed into being the world's number one low-price retailer.
They move a half trillion of product a year and know where most of it is any anytime to the single item.
I not interested in business IT, but I have to admire their results.
(Maybe they should have used some of that dough to hire style consultants like a Martha Stewart.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440665</id>
	<title>Already done</title>
	<author>TFer\_Atvar</author>
	<datestamp>1245778800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I live here, and I've got a friend who works for SourceForge<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I'm not sure in what capacity, though. There's definitely a demand for people with technical skills. There's also ample opportunities for infrastructure development if you're interested in the hardware side of things. The state is working pretty hard to improve broadband access (http://www.newsminer.com/news/2009/jun/21/fairbanks-representative-hopes-highlight-lack-alas/ and <a href="http://www.newsminer.com/news/2009/mar/16/internet-companies-hope-stimulus-boon-bush/" title="newsminer.com">http://www.newsminer.com/news/2009/mar/16/internet-companies-hope-stimulus-boon-bush/</a> [newsminer.com]).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I live here , and I 've got a friend who works for SourceForge ... I 'm not sure in what capacity , though .
There 's definitely a demand for people with technical skills .
There 's also ample opportunities for infrastructure development if you 're interested in the hardware side of things .
The state is working pretty hard to improve broadband access ( http : //www.newsminer.com/news/2009/jun/21/fairbanks-representative-hopes-highlight-lack-alas/ and http : //www.newsminer.com/news/2009/mar/16/internet-companies-hope-stimulus-boon-bush/ [ newsminer.com ] ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live here, and I've got a friend who works for SourceForge ... I'm not sure in what capacity, though.
There's definitely a demand for people with technical skills.
There's also ample opportunities for infrastructure development if you're interested in the hardware side of things.
The state is working pretty hard to improve broadband access (http://www.newsminer.com/news/2009/jun/21/fairbanks-representative-hopes-highlight-lack-alas/ and http://www.newsminer.com/news/2009/mar/16/internet-companies-hope-stimulus-boon-bush/ [newsminer.com]).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442821</id>
	<title>Re:No way</title>
	<author>winomonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1245786180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Alaska is actually a pretty great place to work, and Anchorage isn't too bad.  If you are keen on doing contract work, there are more than enough big-oil and government gigs to keep local shops hopping (and hiring).  If you like something perhaps a little more noble than working at an hourly rate for the oil man, there are some interesting shops up here doing software development.  Want to work for a 10-year-old internationally-known telehealth company?  We are hiring<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.NET ninjas at present.

Nature is accessible<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... or, more accurately, unavoidable.  There are five moose that frequent the lake near our campus throughout the winter months.  I can ski five miles from my house to the backdoor of my office and only cross two small side roads due to our extensive trail system.  My boss takes about a month off each fall to shoot large animals to provide winter food.  Fridays are good days to take off early so that you can get some fishing in.  We have a growing (but still young) downtown scene.  First Friday artwalks, bike co-ops, art studios, some great microbreweries, a decent hockey team (Brabham Cup and Kelly Cup winners), a horrible arena football team, rollerderby.  Winters can drag on a little long (but, as the article mentions, we get less snow than upstate New York), but the summers are phenomenal.

Everyone should come work in Alaska (or at least two more senior developers).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Alaska is actually a pretty great place to work , and Anchorage is n't too bad .
If you are keen on doing contract work , there are more than enough big-oil and government gigs to keep local shops hopping ( and hiring ) .
If you like something perhaps a little more noble than working at an hourly rate for the oil man , there are some interesting shops up here doing software development .
Want to work for a 10-year-old internationally-known telehealth company ?
We are hiring .NET ninjas at present .
Nature is accessible ... or , more accurately , unavoidable .
There are five moose that frequent the lake near our campus throughout the winter months .
I can ski five miles from my house to the backdoor of my office and only cross two small side roads due to our extensive trail system .
My boss takes about a month off each fall to shoot large animals to provide winter food .
Fridays are good days to take off early so that you can get some fishing in .
We have a growing ( but still young ) downtown scene .
First Friday artwalks , bike co-ops , art studios , some great microbreweries , a decent hockey team ( Brabham Cup and Kelly Cup winners ) , a horrible arena football team , rollerderby .
Winters can drag on a little long ( but , as the article mentions , we get less snow than upstate New York ) , but the summers are phenomenal .
Everyone should come work in Alaska ( or at least two more senior developers ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alaska is actually a pretty great place to work, and Anchorage isn't too bad.
If you are keen on doing contract work, there are more than enough big-oil and government gigs to keep local shops hopping (and hiring).
If you like something perhaps a little more noble than working at an hourly rate for the oil man, there are some interesting shops up here doing software development.
Want to work for a 10-year-old internationally-known telehealth company?
We are hiring .NET ninjas at present.
Nature is accessible ... or, more accurately, unavoidable.
There are five moose that frequent the lake near our campus throughout the winter months.
I can ski five miles from my house to the backdoor of my office and only cross two small side roads due to our extensive trail system.
My boss takes about a month off each fall to shoot large animals to provide winter food.
Fridays are good days to take off early so that you can get some fishing in.
We have a growing (but still young) downtown scene.
First Friday artwalks, bike co-ops, art studios, some great microbreweries, a decent hockey team (Brabham Cup and Kelly Cup winners), a horrible arena football team, rollerderby.
Winters can drag on a little long (but, as the article mentions, we get less snow than upstate New York), but the summers are phenomenal.
Everyone should come work in Alaska (or at least two more senior developers).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443837</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>digitalhermit</author>
	<datestamp>1245789780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hehe..</p><p>Get used to disappointment. From:<br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/14/weekinreview/14marsh.html" title="nytimes.com">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/14/weekinreview/14marsh.html</a> [nytimes.com]</p><p>In a Department of Justice tally covering the last decade, Florida wins by its sheer number of guilty. The report, released last week, itemizes convictions in federal public corruption cases at local, state and federal levels in the 50 states, the District of Columbia and three United States territories.</p><p>I live in South Florida and am very used to politicians from city council member to congress folks making excuses for their convictions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hehe..Get used to disappointment .
From : http : //www.nytimes.com/2008/12/14/weekinreview/14marsh.html [ nytimes.com ] In a Department of Justice tally covering the last decade , Florida wins by its sheer number of guilty .
The report , released last week , itemizes convictions in federal public corruption cases at local , state and federal levels in the 50 states , the District of Columbia and three United States territories.I live in South Florida and am very used to politicians from city council member to congress folks making excuses for their convictions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hehe..Get used to disappointment.
From:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/14/weekinreview/14marsh.html [nytimes.com]In a Department of Justice tally covering the last decade, Florida wins by its sheer number of guilty.
The report, released last week, itemizes convictions in federal public corruption cases at local, state and federal levels in the 50 states, the District of Columbia and three United States territories.I live in South Florida and am very used to politicians from city council member to congress folks making excuses for their convictions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444777</id>
	<title>Re:The complete list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245749700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't understand why they make a point of stating what qualifies as a city (population over 50,000) and yet, still, put Bentonville (pop 33,000) on the list despite not qualifying as a city by their own standards.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand why they make a point of stating what qualifies as a city ( population over 50,000 ) and yet , still , put Bentonville ( pop 33,000 ) on the list despite not qualifying as a city by their own standards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand why they make a point of stating what qualifies as a city (population over 50,000) and yet, still, put Bentonville (pop 33,000) on the list despite not qualifying as a city by their own standards.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28449103</id>
	<title>Re:Big market bias</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245778860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So people from SoCal, how's LA to work IT in, what with the crappy traffic and screwy government?</p></div><p>I love working in LA.<br>I'm biased though, having been born and raised here (yes a native!)<br>There are great IT opportunities in all types of areas, big firms: ea, symantec, google, lots of entertainment, and professional consulting like doctors and lawyers offices.<br>Also, there are lots of tech startups. I'm at one now!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So people from SoCal , how 's LA to work IT in , what with the crappy traffic and screwy government ? I love working in LA.I 'm biased though , having been born and raised here ( yes a native !
) There are great IT opportunities in all types of areas , big firms : ea , symantec , google , lots of entertainment , and professional consulting like doctors and lawyers offices.Also , there are lots of tech startups .
I 'm at one now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So people from SoCal, how's LA to work IT in, what with the crappy traffic and screwy government?I love working in LA.I'm biased though, having been born and raised here (yes a native!
)There are great IT opportunities in all types of areas, big firms: ea, symantec, google, lots of entertainment, and professional consulting like doctors and lawyers offices.Also, there are lots of tech startups.
I'm at one now!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440319</id>
	<title>umm DC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245777540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Okay considering the highly biased source, CIO feeds my PHB's delusions of grandeur and our waste bin, it is not surprising to see that DC missed the list. Personally I'd rather deal with Moose than the crime, both lobbyists and drug dealers or 115" of snow rather than the humidity in DC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Okay considering the highly biased source , CIO feeds my PHB 's delusions of grandeur and our waste bin , it is not surprising to see that DC missed the list .
Personally I 'd rather deal with Moose than the crime , both lobbyists and drug dealers or 115 " of snow rather than the humidity in DC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Okay considering the highly biased source, CIO feeds my PHB's delusions of grandeur and our waste bin, it is not surprising to see that DC missed the list.
Personally I'd rather deal with Moose than the crime, both lobbyists and drug dealers or 115" of snow rather than the humidity in DC.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28450753</id>
	<title>Re:Upstate New York Isn't That Bad...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245844560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I go to SU the weather sucks. Eat my shorts</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I go to SU the weather sucks .
Eat my shorts</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I go to SU the weather sucks.
Eat my shorts</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28446957</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245758880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know if I'd go so far as to say "paradise" but its definitely pretty good.  Plus, don't forget that there are great hubs of activity for intelligent people in Ann Arbor, Grand Rapids, Lansing/East Lansing (Go State!) and even the UP (think Marquette and Houghton, college towns) is trying to bring in and keep smart people.</p><p>Not to mention- no one has lived in Detroit proper for at almost 30 years!  All of the "money" has been streaming out of Wayne County and into the surrounding areas.<br>Despite everything, the cost of living in Michigan is also still less than many other places, so you can get a bigger house, a better car, or simply save more of your money to go do the other things you want.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know if I 'd go so far as to say " paradise " but its definitely pretty good .
Plus , do n't forget that there are great hubs of activity for intelligent people in Ann Arbor , Grand Rapids , Lansing/East Lansing ( Go State !
) and even the UP ( think Marquette and Houghton , college towns ) is trying to bring in and keep smart people.Not to mention- no one has lived in Detroit proper for at almost 30 years !
All of the " money " has been streaming out of Wayne County and into the surrounding areas.Despite everything , the cost of living in Michigan is also still less than many other places , so you can get a bigger house , a better car , or simply save more of your money to go do the other things you want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know if I'd go so far as to say "paradise" but its definitely pretty good.
Plus, don't forget that there are great hubs of activity for intelligent people in Ann Arbor, Grand Rapids, Lansing/East Lansing (Go State!
) and even the UP (think Marquette and Houghton, college towns) is trying to bring in and keep smart people.Not to mention- no one has lived in Detroit proper for at almost 30 years!
All of the "money" has been streaming out of Wayne County and into the surrounding areas.Despite everything, the cost of living in Michigan is also still less than many other places, so you can get a bigger house, a better car, or simply save more of your money to go do the other things you want.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444015</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>Swimsc</author>
	<datestamp>1245790320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My Ex is from Detroit.  That's not so bad.
Its the smell of hot dog water and the skunk rats in Ann Arbor that get under my skin.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My Ex is from Detroit .
That 's not so bad .
Its the smell of hot dog water and the skunk rats in Ann Arbor that get under my skin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My Ex is from Detroit.
That's not so bad.
Its the smell of hot dog water and the skunk rats in Ann Arbor that get under my skin.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443915</id>
	<title>Re:The complete list</title>
	<author>jalefkowit</author>
	<datestamp>1245790020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>3. Cleveland, Ohio - Jobs available: 211</p></div></blockquote><p>Perhaps -- but Cleveland is gonna turn around in no time, thanks to these promotional videos!</p><ul>
<li> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY" title="youtube.com">Hastily Made Cleveland Tourism Video</a> [youtube.com] </li><li> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM" title="youtube.com">Hastily Made Cleveland Tourism Video: 2nd Attempt</a> [youtube.com] </li></ul><p>(Full disclosure: I was born and raised in Dayton, one of <i>Forbes</i> magazine's <a href="http://www.forbes.com/2008/08/04/economy-ohio-michigan-biz\_cx\_jz\_0805dying\_slide\_6.html?thisSpeed=15000" title="forbes.com">Fastest Dying Cities in America</a> [forbes.com]. So it's not like I have any room to throw stones.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>3 .
Cleveland , Ohio - Jobs available : 211Perhaps -- but Cleveland is gon na turn around in no time , thanks to these promotional videos !
Hastily Made Cleveland Tourism Video [ youtube.com ] Hastily Made Cleveland Tourism Video : 2nd Attempt [ youtube.com ] ( Full disclosure : I was born and raised in Dayton , one of Forbes magazine 's Fastest Dying Cities in America [ forbes.com ] .
So it 's not like I have any room to throw stones .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>3.
Cleveland, Ohio - Jobs available: 211Perhaps -- but Cleveland is gonna turn around in no time, thanks to these promotional videos!
Hastily Made Cleveland Tourism Video [youtube.com]  Hastily Made Cleveland Tourism Video: 2nd Attempt [youtube.com] (Full disclosure: I was born and raised in Dayton, one of Forbes magazine's Fastest Dying Cities in America [forbes.com].
So it's not like I have any room to throw stones.
)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440689</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>wjousts</author>
	<datestamp>1245778860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've never seen a rural area that isn't mind-numbingly boring, has nothing going on and smells faintly of shit. I could never live in one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've never seen a rural area that is n't mind-numbingly boring , has nothing going on and smells faintly of shit .
I could never live in one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've never seen a rural area that isn't mind-numbingly boring, has nothing going on and smells faintly of shit.
I could never live in one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440741</id>
	<title>Seriously?</title>
	<author>Evildonald</author>
	<datestamp>1245779040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Worst. Article. Ever.
<br> <br>
Timothy, wake up and post something other than a Dice.com ad.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Worst .
Article. Ever .
Timothy , wake up and post something other than a Dice.com ad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Worst.
Article. Ever.
Timothy, wake up and post something other than a Dice.com ad.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441139</id>
	<title>Re:Upstate New York Isn't That Bad...</title>
	<author>frank\_adrian314159</author>
	<datestamp>1245780480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I'm tired of seeing people endlessly trash Upstate because of what they read about the winter.</i> </p><p>Son, any area that has six inches of snow on March 31, has some serious Winter issues.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm tired of seeing people endlessly trash Upstate because of what they read about the winter .
Son , any area that has six inches of snow on March 31 , has some serious Winter issues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm tired of seeing people endlessly trash Upstate because of what they read about the winter.
Son, any area that has six inches of snow on March 31, has some serious Winter issues.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441705</id>
	<title>Re:In this economy any IT job is a good job</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1245782520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lucky stars? My ass. I thank the hard work, diligence, years of earning a rock solid reputation and maintaining social contacts.</p><p>The stars can kiss my ass.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lucky stars ?
My ass .
I thank the hard work , diligence , years of earning a rock solid reputation and maintaining social contacts.The stars can kiss my ass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lucky stars?
My ass.
I thank the hard work, diligence, years of earning a rock solid reputation and maintaining social contacts.The stars can kiss my ass.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440149</id>
	<title>No way</title>
	<author>Stargoat</author>
	<datestamp>1245776940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wish I would be transferred to Alaska.  The hunting and fishing is great.  There is room to breath.  A man can raise a family in a manner more suitable to the American ideal.  The commutes cannot be any worse than the suburbs of any major US city.
<br> <br>
Sign me up!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish I would be transferred to Alaska .
The hunting and fishing is great .
There is room to breath .
A man can raise a family in a manner more suitable to the American ideal .
The commutes can not be any worse than the suburbs of any major US city .
Sign me up !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish I would be transferred to Alaska.
The hunting and fishing is great.
There is room to breath.
A man can raise a family in a manner more suitable to the American ideal.
The commutes cannot be any worse than the suburbs of any major US city.
Sign me up!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441125</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>thesandbender</author>
	<datestamp>1245780420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Grew up in Texas and now live in NYC.  Yes the pace of life here is different but it's very easy to "smell the roses"... Central Park, Prospect Park, Fort Tyron.  The north half of the Hudson trail, which is in Manhattan, is basically a forest.  Even the urban areas can be relaxing... I'll eat breakfast on the breakwater of the BPC North Marina every now in then.  2-3 blocks from ground zero but you can watch all the boats glide by on the Hudson... it's relaxing (until the !#$!@#\%! tourists show up<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p).

Your home is what you make of it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Grew up in Texas and now live in NYC .
Yes the pace of life here is different but it 's very easy to " smell the roses " ... Central Park , Prospect Park , Fort Tyron .
The north half of the Hudson trail , which is in Manhattan , is basically a forest .
Even the urban areas can be relaxing... I 'll eat breakfast on the breakwater of the BPC North Marina every now in then .
2-3 blocks from ground zero but you can watch all the boats glide by on the Hudson... it 's relaxing ( until the ! # $ ! @ # \ % !
tourists show up : p ) .
Your home is what you make of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Grew up in Texas and now live in NYC.
Yes the pace of life here is different but it's very easy to "smell the roses"... Central Park, Prospect Park, Fort Tyron.
The north half of the Hudson trail, which is in Manhattan, is basically a forest.
Even the urban areas can be relaxing... I'll eat breakfast on the breakwater of the BPC North Marina every now in then.
2-3 blocks from ground zero but you can watch all the boats glide by on the Hudson... it's relaxing (until the !#$!@#\%!
tourists show up :p).
Your home is what you make of it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440765</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>mdarksbane</author>
	<datestamp>1245779100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you don't mind the liberal guilt over contributing to modern sprawl, Columbus isn't bad. The industries available are somewhat limited though (a few interesting startups, but a *lot* of medical and insurance as well.</p><p>But Columbus works fairly well because some of the tech centers have arisen in the upper class suburbs in addition to the old downtown. That means that if you pick one of the major freeways out and drive 5-10 minutes, you're far enough into the middle of nowhere to have cows for neighbors. Unfortunately it means you're also a fair drive from any of the traditionally interesting things to do in town, but it's working fairly well for me in general.</p><p>But I get the impression you can find that sort of situation in most mid-major cities (Columbus, Indianapolis, St. Louis, Pittsburgh) in the "flyover" states.</p><p>Another option you might consider is military contracting. There's a fair amount of IT work that goes into keeping the different military bases and training centers running, and most of those are (for obvious reasons) out in the middle of nowhere. Huntsville, AL, Fairborn, OH, those sorts of places. Might not be as much dev work on site but there is plenty of IT stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you do n't mind the liberal guilt over contributing to modern sprawl , Columbus is n't bad .
The industries available are somewhat limited though ( a few interesting startups , but a * lot * of medical and insurance as well.But Columbus works fairly well because some of the tech centers have arisen in the upper class suburbs in addition to the old downtown .
That means that if you pick one of the major freeways out and drive 5-10 minutes , you 're far enough into the middle of nowhere to have cows for neighbors .
Unfortunately it means you 're also a fair drive from any of the traditionally interesting things to do in town , but it 's working fairly well for me in general.But I get the impression you can find that sort of situation in most mid-major cities ( Columbus , Indianapolis , St. Louis , Pittsburgh ) in the " flyover " states.Another option you might consider is military contracting .
There 's a fair amount of IT work that goes into keeping the different military bases and training centers running , and most of those are ( for obvious reasons ) out in the middle of nowhere .
Huntsville , AL , Fairborn , OH , those sorts of places .
Might not be as much dev work on site but there is plenty of IT stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you don't mind the liberal guilt over contributing to modern sprawl, Columbus isn't bad.
The industries available are somewhat limited though (a few interesting startups, but a *lot* of medical and insurance as well.But Columbus works fairly well because some of the tech centers have arisen in the upper class suburbs in addition to the old downtown.
That means that if you pick one of the major freeways out and drive 5-10 minutes, you're far enough into the middle of nowhere to have cows for neighbors.
Unfortunately it means you're also a fair drive from any of the traditionally interesting things to do in town, but it's working fairly well for me in general.But I get the impression you can find that sort of situation in most mid-major cities (Columbus, Indianapolis, St. Louis, Pittsburgh) in the "flyover" states.Another option you might consider is military contracting.
There's a fair amount of IT work that goes into keeping the different military bases and training centers running, and most of those are (for obvious reasons) out in the middle of nowhere.
Huntsville, AL, Fairborn, OH, those sorts of places.
Might not be as much dev work on site but there is plenty of IT stuff.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444013</id>
	<title>Re:Orlando</title>
	<author>lanner</author>
	<datestamp>1245790320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I worked for EA Tiburon a couple of years back.  Between working for EA and working in Florida, it was the WORST experience I ever had at work and home.</p><p>The toll roads sucked.  It cost me something like $25-$30 a week to drive the roads I needed to get to work.  The difference was like 15 minutes for the toll roads vs an hour to take the streets.  The only good thing about them was that nobody could afford to drive on them, so traffic was light.</p><p>Fat government contractors?  Yep.  Blowing your tax money to get fat in Floriduh.</p><p>The old people definitely sucked.</p><p>Annoying students!  Remember "Don't taze me bro!" boy?  A classic Florida college doucheberry.  Between their drunkenness, trashiness, and inflated self-importance, you were a miserable person if you lived anywhere near one of the many colleges.</p><p>The bugs were annoying, though all of the green wildlife mostly offset it.</p><p>Low pay.  Consumables cost the same as everywhere else, though housing and taxes were lower. But, the whole of Florida was generally depressed as far as IT wages went.</p><p>I had never before witnessed someone use a racial slur against another person in a hateful way until I moved to Floriduh.  Suddenly, I was working with two white people in my office refer to another employee, who was black, as a "nigger".  I was shocked.</p><p>As the above commenter noted, the night life sucked, unless you went out to the theme parks.</p><p>I hope everything you own is on a UPS, because Floriduh I believe is the number one state for lightning strikes.</p><p>It's flat and has lots of trees.  At first, you won't understand, but then realize that you can't see the horizon unless you go to the beach.  All you can see is about two blocks away, and then it's trees.  No hills -- ever.  I think the highest point in the state is actually a land fill.  After awhile, this really started to bother me.  It made me feel trapped.  I wanted to go to the airport and GTFO as soon as I could.</p><p>Worst of all though, was the bad attitude everyone else had.  If you weren't retired, military, a tourist, or a racist red-neck, then you were bitter and angry about living in Floriduh.  I guess I understood why.  I got the hell out as soon as I found another job out of state and could arrange the move.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I worked for EA Tiburon a couple of years back .
Between working for EA and working in Florida , it was the WORST experience I ever had at work and home.The toll roads sucked .
It cost me something like $ 25- $ 30 a week to drive the roads I needed to get to work .
The difference was like 15 minutes for the toll roads vs an hour to take the streets .
The only good thing about them was that nobody could afford to drive on them , so traffic was light.Fat government contractors ?
Yep. Blowing your tax money to get fat in Floriduh.The old people definitely sucked.Annoying students !
Remember " Do n't taze me bro !
" boy ?
A classic Florida college doucheberry .
Between their drunkenness , trashiness , and inflated self-importance , you were a miserable person if you lived anywhere near one of the many colleges.The bugs were annoying , though all of the green wildlife mostly offset it.Low pay .
Consumables cost the same as everywhere else , though housing and taxes were lower .
But , the whole of Florida was generally depressed as far as IT wages went.I had never before witnessed someone use a racial slur against another person in a hateful way until I moved to Floriduh .
Suddenly , I was working with two white people in my office refer to another employee , who was black , as a " nigger " .
I was shocked.As the above commenter noted , the night life sucked , unless you went out to the theme parks.I hope everything you own is on a UPS , because Floriduh I believe is the number one state for lightning strikes.It 's flat and has lots of trees .
At first , you wo n't understand , but then realize that you ca n't see the horizon unless you go to the beach .
All you can see is about two blocks away , and then it 's trees .
No hills -- ever .
I think the highest point in the state is actually a land fill .
After awhile , this really started to bother me .
It made me feel trapped .
I wanted to go to the airport and GTFO as soon as I could.Worst of all though , was the bad attitude everyone else had .
If you were n't retired , military , a tourist , or a racist red-neck , then you were bitter and angry about living in Floriduh .
I guess I understood why .
I got the hell out as soon as I found another job out of state and could arrange the move .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I worked for EA Tiburon a couple of years back.
Between working for EA and working in Florida, it was the WORST experience I ever had at work and home.The toll roads sucked.
It cost me something like $25-$30 a week to drive the roads I needed to get to work.
The difference was like 15 minutes for the toll roads vs an hour to take the streets.
The only good thing about them was that nobody could afford to drive on them, so traffic was light.Fat government contractors?
Yep.  Blowing your tax money to get fat in Floriduh.The old people definitely sucked.Annoying students!
Remember "Don't taze me bro!
" boy?
A classic Florida college doucheberry.
Between their drunkenness, trashiness, and inflated self-importance, you were a miserable person if you lived anywhere near one of the many colleges.The bugs were annoying, though all of the green wildlife mostly offset it.Low pay.
Consumables cost the same as everywhere else, though housing and taxes were lower.
But, the whole of Florida was generally depressed as far as IT wages went.I had never before witnessed someone use a racial slur against another person in a hateful way until I moved to Floriduh.
Suddenly, I was working with two white people in my office refer to another employee, who was black, as a "nigger".
I was shocked.As the above commenter noted, the night life sucked, unless you went out to the theme parks.I hope everything you own is on a UPS, because Floriduh I believe is the number one state for lightning strikes.It's flat and has lots of trees.
At first, you won't understand, but then realize that you can't see the horizon unless you go to the beach.
All you can see is about two blocks away, and then it's trees.
No hills -- ever.
I think the highest point in the state is actually a land fill.
After awhile, this really started to bother me.
It made me feel trapped.
I wanted to go to the airport and GTFO as soon as I could.Worst of all though, was the bad attitude everyone else had.
If you weren't retired, military, a tourist, or a racist red-neck, then you were bitter and angry about living in Floriduh.
I guess I understood why.
I got the hell out as soon as I found another job out of state and could arrange the move.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440421</id>
	<title>Re:No way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245777960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Two words.... "Sarah Palin".</p><p>P.S.</p><p>This has to be one of the lamest<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. submissions of the month.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Two words.... " Sarah Palin " .P.S.This has to be one of the lamest / .
submissions of the month .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two words.... "Sarah Palin".P.S.This has to be one of the lamest /.
submissions of the month.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442363</id>
	<title>Mod Parent Up.</title>
	<author>Like2Byte</author>
	<datestamp>1245784620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ironically, I'm at a coffee shop with free Internet access and the executive bean counter who cut my job is three tables away having lunch.</p><p>If you have a job right now, count your lucky stars. I was the best in my group of contractors and my boss was shocked and dismayed when word came down to lay me off, too. There was a lot of talk of bringing me on full time. Then the hiring freeze hit - three months later I'm out of a job.</p><p>I just had to move out of my apartment. No Internet access (except at a cafe). Unemployment is currently the only thing keeping me afloat. My saving are draining fast. Fortunately my parent's home is empty and I can move into it while they're in Florida. But I can't stay there too long.</p><p>One recruiter I recently spoke to told me, "We don't get applicants from Oklahoma. That's very unusual." Yeah, my current location is working against me, too. Fantastic.</p><p>Here's the skinny:<br>1) Companies are pretty much only looking for local candidates.<br>2) Companies are not paying for travel expenses for non-local candidates. Would you spend $500 on the conjecture you might be hired for the position that five or six people are actually being interviewed for?<br>3) I'm being forced to write local addresses for those areas where I do want a position. Fortunately I have family spread out all over the US and can use their addresses.<br>4) If you're even slightly skittish that you may lose your job, START LOOKING NOW!</p><p>You're working? Shut your mouth, Keep your head down low, become more valuable but don't take risks. Even then....you're not guaranteed you'll be working next month.</p><p>Good luck.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ironically , I 'm at a coffee shop with free Internet access and the executive bean counter who cut my job is three tables away having lunch.If you have a job right now , count your lucky stars .
I was the best in my group of contractors and my boss was shocked and dismayed when word came down to lay me off , too .
There was a lot of talk of bringing me on full time .
Then the hiring freeze hit - three months later I 'm out of a job.I just had to move out of my apartment .
No Internet access ( except at a cafe ) .
Unemployment is currently the only thing keeping me afloat .
My saving are draining fast .
Fortunately my parent 's home is empty and I can move into it while they 're in Florida .
But I ca n't stay there too long.One recruiter I recently spoke to told me , " We do n't get applicants from Oklahoma .
That 's very unusual .
" Yeah , my current location is working against me , too .
Fantastic.Here 's the skinny : 1 ) Companies are pretty much only looking for local candidates.2 ) Companies are not paying for travel expenses for non-local candidates .
Would you spend $ 500 on the conjecture you might be hired for the position that five or six people are actually being interviewed for ? 3 ) I 'm being forced to write local addresses for those areas where I do want a position .
Fortunately I have family spread out all over the US and can use their addresses.4 ) If you 're even slightly skittish that you may lose your job , START LOOKING NOW ! You 're working ?
Shut your mouth , Keep your head down low , become more valuable but do n't take risks .
Even then....you 're not guaranteed you 'll be working next month.Good luck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ironically, I'm at a coffee shop with free Internet access and the executive bean counter who cut my job is three tables away having lunch.If you have a job right now, count your lucky stars.
I was the best in my group of contractors and my boss was shocked and dismayed when word came down to lay me off, too.
There was a lot of talk of bringing me on full time.
Then the hiring freeze hit - three months later I'm out of a job.I just had to move out of my apartment.
No Internet access (except at a cafe).
Unemployment is currently the only thing keeping me afloat.
My saving are draining fast.
Fortunately my parent's home is empty and I can move into it while they're in Florida.
But I can't stay there too long.One recruiter I recently spoke to told me, "We don't get applicants from Oklahoma.
That's very unusual.
" Yeah, my current location is working against me, too.
Fantastic.Here's the skinny:1) Companies are pretty much only looking for local candidates.2) Companies are not paying for travel expenses for non-local candidates.
Would you spend $500 on the conjecture you might be hired for the position that five or six people are actually being interviewed for?3) I'm being forced to write local addresses for those areas where I do want a position.
Fortunately I have family spread out all over the US and can use their addresses.4) If you're even slightly skittish that you may lose your job, START LOOKING NOW!You're working?
Shut your mouth, Keep your head down low, become more valuable but don't take risks.
Even then....you're not guaranteed you'll be working next month.Good luck.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443241</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>Woldscum</author>
	<datestamp>1245787680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As a New Jerseyan, I am absolutely insulted and appalled that you think there's a state in this great nation more corrupt than us!</p></div><p>WHAT?!

</p><p>How about Louisiana. Any one?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a New Jerseyan , I am absolutely insulted and appalled that you think there 's a state in this great nation more corrupt than us ! WHAT ? !
How about Louisiana .
Any one ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a New Jerseyan, I am absolutely insulted and appalled that you think there's a state in this great nation more corrupt than us!WHAT?!
How about Louisiana.
Any one?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442171</id>
	<title>Gotta stick up for my hometown...</title>
	<author>bostongraf</author>
	<datestamp>1245783960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>(First, I must acknowledge the authors of TFA started it off by saying it was "snarky and unscientific".  Noting that...)<br> <br>

How could Boston make this list?  It is a serious hotspot for technology.  There are numerous smaller tech specific schools, as well as the MIT factor (assuming that four hundred yards across the Charles is still considered "Boston" from the article's point of view).  There are numerous financial companies that are always hiring for IT, or at least hiring from other Boston based consulting firms.  Then there's Big Pharma.  If you consider Boston to be "within the 495 belt", you have a <a href="http://boston.monster.com/search.aspx?q=&amp;lid=453&amp;fn=660&amp;cy=us&amp;x=54&amp;y=3" title="monster.com" rel="nofollow">huge</a> [monster.com] <a href="http://boston.monster.com/search.aspx?q=&amp;lid=893&amp;fn=660&amp;cy=us&amp;x=54&amp;y=8" title="monster.com" rel="nofollow">number</a> [monster.com] of <a href="http://boston.monster.com/search.aspx?q=&amp;lid=892&amp;fn=660&amp;cy=us&amp;x=45&amp;y=5" title="monster.com" rel="nofollow">opportunities</a> [monster.com].  If you consider Boston to JUST be Boston proper, then the traffic is a non-issue, as you should be taking public transport anyway.<br> <br>

The traffic...I'm not going to say it is great, but it doesn't make the <a href="http://www.forbes.com/2006/02/06/worst-traffic-nightmares-cx\_rm\_0207traffic.html" title="forbes.com" rel="nofollow">Forbes 12 Worst</a> [forbes.com].  However, it does make number eight on <a href="http://jalopnik.com/5164404/the-20-most-traffic+congested-cities-in-america" title="jalopnik.com" rel="nofollow">Jalopnic's list in 2008</a> [jalopnik.com].  That being said, there are alternatives to driving your car to most city locations. <br> <br>

Regarding the sports championships that were brought up...that's just stupid.  As somebody already said, they list SF because of the LACK of championships, but list Boston because there are too many.  Silly.  If you are into sports, you will find a very educated (although biased) fan base for every major sport (excluding NASCAR).  I could go on regarding the sports situation, but I'm pretty sure anyone that cares about sports is already aware of the mark Boston has made on the sports world in the past decade.<br> <br>

History.  Someone complained that the town felt "old".  Really?  The city with the first university on this continent, the first battles of the Revolutionary war, the longest continuously run restaurants in the country, the first public park in the country, some of the oldest churches in the country, the oldest surviving naval vessel in the country, the first post office, the oldest professional sports venue(Fenway) in the country, and the first underground rail system in the country?  That city came across as old?  We prefer to view it as historic.  <br> <br>

Considering Boston is one of the cities in this country with the longest and most influencial histories and is also a long standing technology innovator, I would think there would be some understanding as to why there might be a level of pride.<br> <br>

To bring home the point, you will notice that the author of TFA gave the number of job postings available for every other city on the list, except Boston and SF.  That is because Boston (I don't know about SF) is still a power house in the tech world.  The author complained about traffic and his home town teams losing too many sporting events to Boston's teams.  Which is about as snarky and unscientific as you can get...</htmltext>
<tokenext>( First , I must acknowledge the authors of TFA started it off by saying it was " snarky and unscientific " .
Noting that... ) How could Boston make this list ?
It is a serious hotspot for technology .
There are numerous smaller tech specific schools , as well as the MIT factor ( assuming that four hundred yards across the Charles is still considered " Boston " from the article 's point of view ) .
There are numerous financial companies that are always hiring for IT , or at least hiring from other Boston based consulting firms .
Then there 's Big Pharma .
If you consider Boston to be " within the 495 belt " , you have a huge [ monster.com ] number [ monster.com ] of opportunities [ monster.com ] .
If you consider Boston to JUST be Boston proper , then the traffic is a non-issue , as you should be taking public transport anyway .
The traffic...I 'm not going to say it is great , but it does n't make the Forbes 12 Worst [ forbes.com ] .
However , it does make number eight on Jalopnic 's list in 2008 [ jalopnik.com ] .
That being said , there are alternatives to driving your car to most city locations .
Regarding the sports championships that were brought up...that 's just stupid .
As somebody already said , they list SF because of the LACK of championships , but list Boston because there are too many .
Silly. If you are into sports , you will find a very educated ( although biased ) fan base for every major sport ( excluding NASCAR ) .
I could go on regarding the sports situation , but I 'm pretty sure anyone that cares about sports is already aware of the mark Boston has made on the sports world in the past decade .
History. Someone complained that the town felt " old " .
Really ? The city with the first university on this continent , the first battles of the Revolutionary war , the longest continuously run restaurants in the country , the first public park in the country , some of the oldest churches in the country , the oldest surviving naval vessel in the country , the first post office , the oldest professional sports venue ( Fenway ) in the country , and the first underground rail system in the country ?
That city came across as old ?
We prefer to view it as historic .
Considering Boston is one of the cities in this country with the longest and most influencial histories and is also a long standing technology innovator , I would think there would be some understanding as to why there might be a level of pride .
To bring home the point , you will notice that the author of TFA gave the number of job postings available for every other city on the list , except Boston and SF .
That is because Boston ( I do n't know about SF ) is still a power house in the tech world .
The author complained about traffic and his home town teams losing too many sporting events to Boston 's teams .
Which is about as snarky and unscientific as you can get.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(First, I must acknowledge the authors of TFA started it off by saying it was "snarky and unscientific".
Noting that...) 

How could Boston make this list?
It is a serious hotspot for technology.
There are numerous smaller tech specific schools, as well as the MIT factor (assuming that four hundred yards across the Charles is still considered "Boston" from the article's point of view).
There are numerous financial companies that are always hiring for IT, or at least hiring from other Boston based consulting firms.
Then there's Big Pharma.
If you consider Boston to be "within the 495 belt", you have a huge [monster.com] number [monster.com] of opportunities [monster.com].
If you consider Boston to JUST be Boston proper, then the traffic is a non-issue, as you should be taking public transport anyway.
The traffic...I'm not going to say it is great, but it doesn't make the Forbes 12 Worst [forbes.com].
However, it does make number eight on Jalopnic's list in 2008 [jalopnik.com].
That being said, there are alternatives to driving your car to most city locations.
Regarding the sports championships that were brought up...that's just stupid.
As somebody already said, they list SF because of the LACK of championships, but list Boston because there are too many.
Silly.  If you are into sports, you will find a very educated (although biased) fan base for every major sport (excluding NASCAR).
I could go on regarding the sports situation, but I'm pretty sure anyone that cares about sports is already aware of the mark Boston has made on the sports world in the past decade.
History.  Someone complained that the town felt "old".
Really?  The city with the first university on this continent, the first battles of the Revolutionary war, the longest continuously run restaurants in the country, the first public park in the country, some of the oldest churches in the country, the oldest surviving naval vessel in the country, the first post office, the oldest professional sports venue(Fenway) in the country, and the first underground rail system in the country?
That city came across as old?
We prefer to view it as historic.
Considering Boston is one of the cities in this country with the longest and most influencial histories and is also a long standing technology innovator, I would think there would be some understanding as to why there might be a level of pride.
To bring home the point, you will notice that the author of TFA gave the number of job postings available for every other city on the list, except Boston and SF.
That is because Boston (I don't know about SF) is still a power house in the tech world.
The author complained about traffic and his home town teams losing too many sporting events to Boston's teams.
Which is about as snarky and unscientific as you can get...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440789</id>
	<title>Missing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245779220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Washington D.C.  The entire metropolitan area is one big mess.  I have to plan my WEEKEND trips to the grocery store with severe traffic in mind.  The area/weather/people are nice enough. However, with the addition of the commute times, I am basically holding down another part-time job just to get to work and back.  I work 10-12 hour days just to avoid sitting in that mess for 3-4 hours a day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Washington D.C. The entire metropolitan area is one big mess .
I have to plan my WEEKEND trips to the grocery store with severe traffic in mind .
The area/weather/people are nice enough .
However , with the addition of the commute times , I am basically holding down another part-time job just to get to work and back .
I work 10-12 hour days just to avoid sitting in that mess for 3-4 hours a day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Washington D.C.  The entire metropolitan area is one big mess.
I have to plan my WEEKEND trips to the grocery store with severe traffic in mind.
The area/weather/people are nice enough.
However, with the addition of the commute times, I am basically holding down another part-time job just to get to work and back.
I work 10-12 hour days just to avoid sitting in that mess for 3-4 hours a day.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28446339</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>drpentode</author>
	<datestamp>1245755880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I second that.  I've been to the Grand Rapids area many times, and I've loved it every time.  Plenty of forests, not a lot of traffic, and very intelligent and friendly people.  I would have moved there if it wasn't for the winters and lack of jobs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I second that .
I 've been to the Grand Rapids area many times , and I 've loved it every time .
Plenty of forests , not a lot of traffic , and very intelligent and friendly people .
I would have moved there if it was n't for the winters and lack of jobs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I second that.
I've been to the Grand Rapids area many times, and I've loved it every time.
Plenty of forests, not a lot of traffic, and very intelligent and friendly people.
I would have moved there if it wasn't for the winters and lack of jobs.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440221</id>
	<title>Best City: Holland, Michigan.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245777180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lots of bath houses and gay bars, plenty of well hung young studs, and of course, the geek compound.  It's a linux version of heaven on earth.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lots of bath houses and gay bars , plenty of well hung young studs , and of course , the geek compound .
It 's a linux version of heaven on earth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lots of bath houses and gay bars, plenty of well hung young studs, and of course, the geek compound.
It's a linux version of heaven on earth.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440991</id>
	<title>Re:Upstate New York Isn't That Bad...</title>
	<author>TheRealMindChild</author>
	<datestamp>1245780000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Pffft. If people cared the facts, we'd have little to talk about here and action movies would be 10 minutes long.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pffft .
If people cared the facts , we 'd have little to talk about here and action movies would be 10 minutes long .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pffft.
If people cared the facts, we'd have little to talk about here and action movies would be 10 minutes long.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441389</id>
	<title>Just an awful list.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245781440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This list of cities has nothing to do with IT what so ever.  The only thing connected to IT with any of the cities is the number of dice.com jobs available in the citiy which doesn't seem like a very decent way to judge the number of IT jobs in a city or even how "friendly" the city is to IT.</p><p>And how does anything relating to national sports teams have anything to do with making a city worst for IT?  He brings this up twice out of ten cities!</p><p>What makes a city bad for IT?  Low income, lack of jobs, no or minimal education systems seem more important  then a freaking sports team member leaving to a different city dammit!  How about more real details lie "xyz company moved over seas taking with it 30\% of the jobs" or "annually only 2\% of local jobs are related to IT".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This list of cities has nothing to do with IT what so ever .
The only thing connected to IT with any of the cities is the number of dice.com jobs available in the citiy which does n't seem like a very decent way to judge the number of IT jobs in a city or even how " friendly " the city is to IT.And how does anything relating to national sports teams have anything to do with making a city worst for IT ?
He brings this up twice out of ten cities ! What makes a city bad for IT ?
Low income , lack of jobs , no or minimal education systems seem more important then a freaking sports team member leaving to a different city dammit !
How about more real details lie " xyz company moved over seas taking with it 30 \ % of the jobs " or " annually only 2 \ % of local jobs are related to IT " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This list of cities has nothing to do with IT what so ever.
The only thing connected to IT with any of the cities is the number of dice.com jobs available in the citiy which doesn't seem like a very decent way to judge the number of IT jobs in a city or even how "friendly" the city is to IT.And how does anything relating to national sports teams have anything to do with making a city worst for IT?
He brings this up twice out of ten cities!What makes a city bad for IT?
Low income, lack of jobs, no or minimal education systems seem more important  then a freaking sports team member leaving to a different city dammit!
How about more real details lie "xyz company moved over seas taking with it 30\% of the jobs" or "annually only 2\% of local jobs are related to IT".</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442035</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245783480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are right.. populist Democracy sucks... Representative Democracy sucks too... in teh middle would be consensus democr4acy where you have representatives who have the power to make touch choices because any referendum has to pass with 2/3 majorety and some even have a quarum requirment so a low turn out election can't be used to decide important issues if too few of teh registered voters show up (if it isn't important enough for a quarum, then it isn't important)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are right.. populist Democracy sucks... Representative Democracy sucks too... in teh middle would be consensus democr4acy where you have representatives who have the power to make touch choices because any referendum has to pass with 2/3 majorety and some even have a quarum requirment so a low turn out election ca n't be used to decide important issues if too few of teh registered voters show up ( if it is n't important enough for a quarum , then it is n't important )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are right.. populist Democracy sucks... Representative Democracy sucks too... in teh middle would be consensus democr4acy where you have representatives who have the power to make touch choices because any referendum has to pass with 2/3 majorety and some even have a quarum requirment so a low turn out election can't be used to decide important issues if too few of teh registered voters show up (if it isn't important enough for a quarum, then it isn't important)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441399</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>dkf</author>
	<datestamp>1245781560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"Tax and Spend" is better than "Drunken Sailor with a No-limit Credit Card"</p></div><p>It seems that the alternatives offered are "Tax and Spend" and "Spend but Don't Tax (the rich)". Neither really enthuses me, but aiming to keep income, savings and outgoings balanced seems... well, sane. Sure you can have a debate on the level of services that should be offered, but pretending that cakes can be both had <i>and</i> eaten simultaneously is plain stupid. (Cutting taxes can stimulate the economy and so restore or increase total tax income, but if it has the opposite effect then it's stupid to blindly try doing it again. Flexibility of mindset is more important...)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Tax and Spend " is better than " Drunken Sailor with a No-limit Credit Card " It seems that the alternatives offered are " Tax and Spend " and " Spend but Do n't Tax ( the rich ) " .
Neither really enthuses me , but aiming to keep income , savings and outgoings balanced seems... well , sane .
Sure you can have a debate on the level of services that should be offered , but pretending that cakes can be both had and eaten simultaneously is plain stupid .
( Cutting taxes can stimulate the economy and so restore or increase total tax income , but if it has the opposite effect then it 's stupid to blindly try doing it again .
Flexibility of mindset is more important... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Tax and Spend" is better than "Drunken Sailor with a No-limit Credit Card"It seems that the alternatives offered are "Tax and Spend" and "Spend but Don't Tax (the rich)".
Neither really enthuses me, but aiming to keep income, savings and outgoings balanced seems... well, sane.
Sure you can have a debate on the level of services that should be offered, but pretending that cakes can be both had and eaten simultaneously is plain stupid.
(Cutting taxes can stimulate the economy and so restore or increase total tax income, but if it has the opposite effect then it's stupid to blindly try doing it again.
Flexibility of mindset is more important...)
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28445265</id>
	<title>Re:They missed a couple</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245751380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Add Des Moines, IA to that list.</p><p>The two main industries are government and financial services (mainly insurance and banking). Big bureaucracy and low salaries--if the money guys don't decide to get replace you with a cheaper H1B.  Add to that, there aren't many companies to go to, so the tech community is small--keep running into the same people all the time.</p><p>For some reason, the place reminds me of Batman's Gotham City.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Add Des Moines , IA to that list.The two main industries are government and financial services ( mainly insurance and banking ) .
Big bureaucracy and low salaries--if the money guys do n't decide to get replace you with a cheaper H1B .
Add to that , there are n't many companies to go to , so the tech community is small--keep running into the same people all the time.For some reason , the place reminds me of Batman 's Gotham City .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Add Des Moines, IA to that list.The two main industries are government and financial services (mainly insurance and banking).
Big bureaucracy and low salaries--if the money guys don't decide to get replace you with a cheaper H1B.
Add to that, there aren't many companies to go to, so the tech community is small--keep running into the same people all the time.For some reason, the place reminds me of Batman's Gotham City.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441301</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245781080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's because you haven't been to the mountains. Farmland is flat, boring, and smells (fertilizer), but mountains can be quite nice for hiking and solitude, with the bonus of having interesting terrain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's because you have n't been to the mountains .
Farmland is flat , boring , and smells ( fertilizer ) , but mountains can be quite nice for hiking and solitude , with the bonus of having interesting terrain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's because you haven't been to the mountains.
Farmland is flat, boring, and smells (fertilizer), but mountains can be quite nice for hiking and solitude, with the bonus of having interesting terrain.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441051</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>Ihmhi</author>
	<datestamp>1245780180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If I had to name a State as worst State it would be California.  Land of tax and spend with no fiscal restraint, holder of first county to declare bankruptcy and likely first State to go bankrupt.  Of course the single biggest reason to avoid California for me is that about 3/4 of my firearms are unconstitutionally deemed illegal by the State.</p></div><p>As a New Jerseyan, I am absolutely insulted and appalled that you think there's a state in this great nation more corrupt than us!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I had to name a State as worst State it would be California .
Land of tax and spend with no fiscal restraint , holder of first county to declare bankruptcy and likely first State to go bankrupt .
Of course the single biggest reason to avoid California for me is that about 3/4 of my firearms are unconstitutionally deemed illegal by the State.As a New Jerseyan , I am absolutely insulted and appalled that you think there 's a state in this great nation more corrupt than us !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I had to name a State as worst State it would be California.
Land of tax and spend with no fiscal restraint, holder of first county to declare bankruptcy and likely first State to go bankrupt.
Of course the single biggest reason to avoid California for me is that about 3/4 of my firearms are unconstitutionally deemed illegal by the State.As a New Jerseyan, I am absolutely insulted and appalled that you think there's a state in this great nation more corrupt than us!
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441555</id>
	<title>Re:Gary Indiana</title>
	<author>Darth\_brooks</author>
	<datestamp>1245782040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pretty much. There's nothing quite like that thick yellow smog that hangs in the air over Gary, or that lovely smell of sulfer and despair that reminds you "Yep, this is Hell. Enjoy your visit from the safety of the highway or the train, and thank your lucky stars you don't have to get out."</p><p>"Detroit" proper certainly sucks, but it's never really had an IT infrastructure to start out with. Outside of Compuware, high-tech jobs just don't exist there. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that those 440+ IT jobs in "Detroit" are postings from Livonia or Novi, which is about the same as equating a job posting in Simi Valley with one in Compton.</p><p>I worked IT for a Community College that serves Detroit. By far the most dysfunctional IT organization I've ever seen. After getting hired, the first thing my boss told me was "I can't believe they hired you, you're not related to anybody here." Dozens of redundant administrators with no real job function other than drawing a paycheck, a single, insanely flaky DNS and AD server (located downtown) serving 5 remote sites that would wipe out connectivity across all campuses when it went down. I finally started SSH tunneling all of my traffic to my home connection so I could at least keep myself entertained. One of my favorite moments was when one of the network administrators was on site and I showed him what I was doing. His first question: "What's SSH?" By that time, I wasn't even remotely surprised. I was slightly surprised when I saw that job posted internally after the same admin moved to a different role. Starting salary: 65k. A junior admin with no skills whatsoever pulling down that kind of money. God only knows what his bosses made...</p><p>I was finally "indefinitely laid off" (no one ever got fired, downsized, rightsized, or had their position eliminated. You were simply placed on indefinite lay off. I heard of people getting called back to their jobs 5+ years after they got laid off) by the "Senior Associate Vice president of human resources", and yes, there were associate VP's of HR, VP's of HR, and a President of HR. If you were in the HR department, you were some form of Vice president. Or you were a secretary who was assumed to be boning and or related to his or her associated vice president. I had two weeks vacation and was told that I had a signing bonus from the union contract (Yep. Union IT. The union was equally incompetent) coming to me upon my "lay off." I was paid 8 hours vacation (the payroll system was never, ever right. They said I had 8 hours, they paid me 8, and sent me to one of the dozens of voicemail boxes that never got checked.) and told that the bonus didn't really apply to me due to a quirk in the rules.</p><p>So I walked away with a day's pay instead of a month's, and I framed the letter. I use it as a reminder of how crappy an organization can really be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty much .
There 's nothing quite like that thick yellow smog that hangs in the air over Gary , or that lovely smell of sulfer and despair that reminds you " Yep , this is Hell .
Enjoy your visit from the safety of the highway or the train , and thank your lucky stars you do n't have to get out .
" " Detroit " proper certainly sucks , but it 's never really had an IT infrastructure to start out with .
Outside of Compuware , high-tech jobs just do n't exist there .
I 'd bet dollars to doughnuts that those 440 + IT jobs in " Detroit " are postings from Livonia or Novi , which is about the same as equating a job posting in Simi Valley with one in Compton.I worked IT for a Community College that serves Detroit .
By far the most dysfunctional IT organization I 've ever seen .
After getting hired , the first thing my boss told me was " I ca n't believe they hired you , you 're not related to anybody here .
" Dozens of redundant administrators with no real job function other than drawing a paycheck , a single , insanely flaky DNS and AD server ( located downtown ) serving 5 remote sites that would wipe out connectivity across all campuses when it went down .
I finally started SSH tunneling all of my traffic to my home connection so I could at least keep myself entertained .
One of my favorite moments was when one of the network administrators was on site and I showed him what I was doing .
His first question : " What 's SSH ?
" By that time , I was n't even remotely surprised .
I was slightly surprised when I saw that job posted internally after the same admin moved to a different role .
Starting salary : 65k .
A junior admin with no skills whatsoever pulling down that kind of money .
God only knows what his bosses made...I was finally " indefinitely laid off " ( no one ever got fired , downsized , rightsized , or had their position eliminated .
You were simply placed on indefinite lay off .
I heard of people getting called back to their jobs 5 + years after they got laid off ) by the " Senior Associate Vice president of human resources " , and yes , there were associate VP 's of HR , VP 's of HR , and a President of HR .
If you were in the HR department , you were some form of Vice president .
Or you were a secretary who was assumed to be boning and or related to his or her associated vice president .
I had two weeks vacation and was told that I had a signing bonus from the union contract ( Yep .
Union IT .
The union was equally incompetent ) coming to me upon my " lay off .
" I was paid 8 hours vacation ( the payroll system was never , ever right .
They said I had 8 hours , they paid me 8 , and sent me to one of the dozens of voicemail boxes that never got checked .
) and told that the bonus did n't really apply to me due to a quirk in the rules.So I walked away with a day 's pay instead of a month 's , and I framed the letter .
I use it as a reminder of how crappy an organization can really be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty much.
There's nothing quite like that thick yellow smog that hangs in the air over Gary, or that lovely smell of sulfer and despair that reminds you "Yep, this is Hell.
Enjoy your visit from the safety of the highway or the train, and thank your lucky stars you don't have to get out.
""Detroit" proper certainly sucks, but it's never really had an IT infrastructure to start out with.
Outside of Compuware, high-tech jobs just don't exist there.
I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that those 440+ IT jobs in "Detroit" are postings from Livonia or Novi, which is about the same as equating a job posting in Simi Valley with one in Compton.I worked IT for a Community College that serves Detroit.
By far the most dysfunctional IT organization I've ever seen.
After getting hired, the first thing my boss told me was "I can't believe they hired you, you're not related to anybody here.
" Dozens of redundant administrators with no real job function other than drawing a paycheck, a single, insanely flaky DNS and AD server (located downtown) serving 5 remote sites that would wipe out connectivity across all campuses when it went down.
I finally started SSH tunneling all of my traffic to my home connection so I could at least keep myself entertained.
One of my favorite moments was when one of the network administrators was on site and I showed him what I was doing.
His first question: "What's SSH?
" By that time, I wasn't even remotely surprised.
I was slightly surprised when I saw that job posted internally after the same admin moved to a different role.
Starting salary: 65k.
A junior admin with no skills whatsoever pulling down that kind of money.
God only knows what his bosses made...I was finally "indefinitely laid off" (no one ever got fired, downsized, rightsized, or had their position eliminated.
You were simply placed on indefinite lay off.
I heard of people getting called back to their jobs 5+ years after they got laid off) by the "Senior Associate Vice president of human resources", and yes, there were associate VP's of HR, VP's of HR, and a President of HR.
If you were in the HR department, you were some form of Vice president.
Or you were a secretary who was assumed to be boning and or related to his or her associated vice president.
I had two weeks vacation and was told that I had a signing bonus from the union contract (Yep.
Union IT.
The union was equally incompetent) coming to me upon my "lay off.
" I was paid 8 hours vacation (the payroll system was never, ever right.
They said I had 8 hours, they paid me 8, and sent me to one of the dozens of voicemail boxes that never got checked.
) and told that the bonus didn't really apply to me due to a quirk in the rules.So I walked away with a day's pay instead of a month's, and I framed the letter.
I use it as a reminder of how crappy an organization can really be.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441657</id>
	<title>Usually a lack of professional development</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245782400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>While I sympathize and hear these stories a lot, I find they are usually due to a lack of professional development. There are kids out of school or self taught that can do almost any entry level IT position in a given role whether that role is service tech, admin, engineer, researcher, or even crazy turtleneck sporting visionary. And kids out of school are DELIGHTED to make salaries middle aged folk raising kids couldn't live off of. On top of this, the days of the IT gold rush are long over, and frankly anyone who expected that too be a long term prospect was just misguided.
IT is an industry where to even keep your job you have to have a certain level of professional development, but without significant development efforts you will probably eventually not be able to make the type of stable living you need eventually. This is just part of being in IT, just like teachers have to put up with bratty kids all day.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While I sympathize and hear these stories a lot , I find they are usually due to a lack of professional development .
There are kids out of school or self taught that can do almost any entry level IT position in a given role whether that role is service tech , admin , engineer , researcher , or even crazy turtleneck sporting visionary .
And kids out of school are DELIGHTED to make salaries middle aged folk raising kids could n't live off of .
On top of this , the days of the IT gold rush are long over , and frankly anyone who expected that too be a long term prospect was just misguided .
IT is an industry where to even keep your job you have to have a certain level of professional development , but without significant development efforts you will probably eventually not be able to make the type of stable living you need eventually .
This is just part of being in IT , just like teachers have to put up with bratty kids all day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I sympathize and hear these stories a lot, I find they are usually due to a lack of professional development.
There are kids out of school or self taught that can do almost any entry level IT position in a given role whether that role is service tech, admin, engineer, researcher, or even crazy turtleneck sporting visionary.
And kids out of school are DELIGHTED to make salaries middle aged folk raising kids couldn't live off of.
On top of this, the days of the IT gold rush are long over, and frankly anyone who expected that too be a long term prospect was just misguided.
IT is an industry where to even keep your job you have to have a certain level of professional development, but without significant development efforts you will probably eventually not be able to make the type of stable living you need eventually.
This is just part of being in IT, just like teachers have to put up with bratty kids all day.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>mertzman</author>
	<datestamp>1245784140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>re broadband: in the Madison area for small business and home, not so great, but not terrible either. Big players are the telco DSL services and Charter cable... none of which are particularly cheap, fast, or reliable, but within a tolerable level of service. Very limited areas of the metro area have access to direct fiber services like AT&amp;T UVerse.  As for large business and academic connections though, there are some big pipes to tap into... UW and state government have some heavy duty net infrastructure, including extensive linkups to the "Internet2" academic network.</p><p>re taxes: In Dane County (where Madison is located), sales tax is actually 5.5\%  And if a Regional Transit Authority is created in the not-too-distant future, the plan is to fund that through an additional sales tax (kind of odd to fund an RTA with sales tax, but that's a different conversation all together).  Anyways, 5.5 is cheap compared to the exorbitant sales taxes to be found around Chicagoland.</p><p>Madison is often a highly rated place to live and work, but lots of us who live here consider it a bit overrated... Wisconsin winters detract from the city's charms a whole lot.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>re broadband : in the Madison area for small business and home , not so great , but not terrible either .
Big players are the telco DSL services and Charter cable... none of which are particularly cheap , fast , or reliable , but within a tolerable level of service .
Very limited areas of the metro area have access to direct fiber services like AT&amp;T UVerse .
As for large business and academic connections though , there are some big pipes to tap into... UW and state government have some heavy duty net infrastructure , including extensive linkups to the " Internet2 " academic network.re taxes : In Dane County ( where Madison is located ) , sales tax is actually 5.5 \ % And if a Regional Transit Authority is created in the not-too-distant future , the plan is to fund that through an additional sales tax ( kind of odd to fund an RTA with sales tax , but that 's a different conversation all together ) .
Anyways , 5.5 is cheap compared to the exorbitant sales taxes to be found around Chicagoland.Madison is often a highly rated place to live and work , but lots of us who live here consider it a bit overrated... Wisconsin winters detract from the city 's charms a whole lot .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>re broadband: in the Madison area for small business and home, not so great, but not terrible either.
Big players are the telco DSL services and Charter cable... none of which are particularly cheap, fast, or reliable, but within a tolerable level of service.
Very limited areas of the metro area have access to direct fiber services like AT&amp;T UVerse.
As for large business and academic connections though, there are some big pipes to tap into... UW and state government have some heavy duty net infrastructure, including extensive linkups to the "Internet2" academic network.re taxes: In Dane County (where Madison is located), sales tax is actually 5.5\%  And if a Regional Transit Authority is created in the not-too-distant future, the plan is to fund that through an additional sales tax (kind of odd to fund an RTA with sales tax, but that's a different conversation all together).
Anyways, 5.5 is cheap compared to the exorbitant sales taxes to be found around Chicagoland.Madison is often a highly rated place to live and work, but lots of us who live here consider it a bit overrated... Wisconsin winters detract from the city's charms a whole lot.
:)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443355</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245788100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And you forgot to add number 10:</p><p>10) A government that taxes &amp; regulates businesses so badly that they have all left or gone out of business!</p><p>And it comes included in the package.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And you forgot to add number 10 : 10 ) A government that taxes &amp; regulates businesses so badly that they have all left or gone out of business ! And it comes included in the package .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And you forgot to add number 10:10) A government that taxes &amp; regulates businesses so badly that they have all left or gone out of business!And it comes included in the package.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440161</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245776940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I used to love driving around Belle Isle at night watching the police trolling the Detroit River for headless torsos...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to love driving around Belle Isle at night watching the police trolling the Detroit River for headless torsos.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to love driving around Belle Isle at night watching the police trolling the Detroit River for headless torsos...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28453309</id>
	<title>Re:No way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245861960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>to <b>breathe</b>. There is room to BREATH<b>E</b>.
<br>
Breathe is a verb. It rhymes with "seethe". Ex: "I seethe with anger over usage errors so badly that I cannot breathe".<br>
Breath is a noun. It rhymes with "death", Ex: "Your failure to grasp this distinction takes by breath away."<br>

<a href="http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/breath.html" title="wsu.edu" rel="nofollow">http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/breath.html</a> [wsu.edu]</htmltext>
<tokenext>to breathe .
There is room to BREATHE .
Breathe is a verb .
It rhymes with " seethe " .
Ex : " I seethe with anger over usage errors so badly that I can not breathe " .
Breath is a noun .
It rhymes with " death " , Ex : " Your failure to grasp this distinction takes by breath away .
" http : //www.wsu.edu/ ~ brians/errors/breath.html [ wsu.edu ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to breathe.
There is room to BREATHE.
Breathe is a verb.
It rhymes with "seethe".
Ex: "I seethe with anger over usage errors so badly that I cannot breathe".
Breath is a noun.
It rhymes with "death", Ex: "Your failure to grasp this distinction takes by breath away.
"

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/breath.html [wsu.edu]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440795</id>
	<title>Bentonville does suck</title>
	<author>trutative</author>
	<datestamp>1245779220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I did not really have much negative feeling for Wal-Mart until I worked in Bentonville for two to three weeks at the Wal-Mart IT HQ.<br>Between the IT sweatshop like conditions inside the building and all pervasive Wal-Mart "culture" in the rest of the town, it made<br>me never want to spend time in a Wal-Mart store let alone any more time in Bentonville. Imagine if you will when you go to buy<br>anything at a grocery store the only choices you have are Wal-Mart grocery stores! If Wal-Mart does not carry what you want<br>then you are just SOL.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did not really have much negative feeling for Wal-Mart until I worked in Bentonville for two to three weeks at the Wal-Mart IT HQ.Between the IT sweatshop like conditions inside the building and all pervasive Wal-Mart " culture " in the rest of the town , it mademe never want to spend time in a Wal-Mart store let alone any more time in Bentonville .
Imagine if you will when you go to buyanything at a grocery store the only choices you have are Wal-Mart grocery stores !
If Wal-Mart does not carry what you wantthen you are just SOL .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did not really have much negative feeling for Wal-Mart until I worked in Bentonville for two to three weeks at the Wal-Mart IT HQ.Between the IT sweatshop like conditions inside the building and all pervasive Wal-Mart "culture" in the rest of the town, it mademe never want to spend time in a Wal-Mart store let alone any more time in Bentonville.
Imagine if you will when you go to buyanything at a grocery store the only choices you have are Wal-Mart grocery stores!
If Wal-Mart does not carry what you wantthen you are just SOL.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442417</id>
	<title>Re:Alaska is nice - if you can keep a job</title>
	<author>vertinox</author>
	<datestamp>1245784800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I wouldn't mind working in Alaska - lots of fresh seafood, cheap real estate, small town feel - if I can be sure my job is secure.</i></p><p>Deal Breaker: Lack of broad band</p><p>How else am I going to spend those 6 weeks of darkness in 50 degree below weather.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't mind working in Alaska - lots of fresh seafood , cheap real estate , small town feel - if I can be sure my job is secure.Deal Breaker : Lack of broad bandHow else am I going to spend those 6 weeks of darkness in 50 degree below weather .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't mind working in Alaska - lots of fresh seafood, cheap real estate, small town feel - if I can be sure my job is secure.Deal Breaker: Lack of broad bandHow else am I going to spend those 6 weeks of darkness in 50 degree below weather.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441865</id>
	<title>Re:No way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245783000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>your kids can be eaten by the local Grizzley Bear while tehy wait for the school bus at the corner. Oh yeah... Alaska is awsome!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>your kids can be eaten by the local Grizzley Bear while tehy wait for the school bus at the corner .
Oh yeah... Alaska is awsome !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>your kids can be eaten by the local Grizzley Bear while tehy wait for the school bus at the corner.
Oh yeah... Alaska is awsome!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444759</id>
	<title>Re:Dallas??</title>
	<author>liquidpele</author>
	<datestamp>1245749640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Houston is also smoggy and just dirty.   ugh.  Dallas is MUCH nicer... Austin even more so.   Maybe just my opinion though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Houston is also smoggy and just dirty .
ugh. Dallas is MUCH nicer... Austin even more so .
Maybe just my opinion though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Houston is also smoggy and just dirty.
ugh.  Dallas is MUCH nicer... Austin even more so.
Maybe just my opinion though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442043</id>
	<title>Re:Upstate New York Isn't That Bad...</title>
	<author>Anonymous Cowherd</author>
	<datestamp>1245783540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm tired of seeing people endlessly trash Upstate because of what they read about the winter.  What the summary doesn't tell you about the 115 inches of snow is that you rarely have more than 10 inches on the ground at a time; the weather trends for this area lately have seen snow coming primarily on the leading edge of <b>warm fronts</b> in the winter.  The result of this is of course you'll shovel your driveway on Monday and then put on sunglasses and a very light coat by Wednesday.  In reality every winter in Upstate New York has been near-record warmth for the past several years, and after the short winter season (only about 3 months in reality) the rest of the year is temperate.</p></div><p>Exactly what part of Syracuse do you live in? I regularly had more than 10 inches of snow in my yard and i rarely had the desire to wear a very light coat in the below freezing weather. Sure we do sometimes have a warm winter with snow that never sticks but this last one wasn't one of them.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I 'm tired of seeing people endlessly trash Upstate because of what they read about the winter .
What the summary does n't tell you about the 115 inches of snow is that you rarely have more than 10 inches on the ground at a time ; the weather trends for this area lately have seen snow coming primarily on the leading edge of warm fronts in the winter .
The result of this is of course you 'll shovel your driveway on Monday and then put on sunglasses and a very light coat by Wednesday .
In reality every winter in Upstate New York has been near-record warmth for the past several years , and after the short winter season ( only about 3 months in reality ) the rest of the year is temperate.Exactly what part of Syracuse do you live in ?
I regularly had more than 10 inches of snow in my yard and i rarely had the desire to wear a very light coat in the below freezing weather .
Sure we do sometimes have a warm winter with snow that never sticks but this last one was n't one of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm tired of seeing people endlessly trash Upstate because of what they read about the winter.
What the summary doesn't tell you about the 115 inches of snow is that you rarely have more than 10 inches on the ground at a time; the weather trends for this area lately have seen snow coming primarily on the leading edge of warm fronts in the winter.
The result of this is of course you'll shovel your driveway on Monday and then put on sunglasses and a very light coat by Wednesday.
In reality every winter in Upstate New York has been near-record warmth for the past several years, and after the short winter season (only about 3 months in reality) the rest of the year is temperate.Exactly what part of Syracuse do you live in?
I regularly had more than 10 inches of snow in my yard and i rarely had the desire to wear a very light coat in the below freezing weather.
Sure we do sometimes have a warm winter with snow that never sticks but this last one wasn't one of them.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440209</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245777120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you believe all the Tim Allen narrated Michigan commercials on TV lately you'd think Michigan is the best place on Earth.. but then I saw the GM building at the end of the commercial and had to give a Homer Simpson "DOH!" I worked in Sacramento / Folsom , CA and now in the D.C. / Baltimore area all in all about the same, but you always have low ball employers out there who will overwork you for slave pay.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you believe all the Tim Allen narrated Michigan commercials on TV lately you 'd think Michigan is the best place on Earth.. but then I saw the GM building at the end of the commercial and had to give a Homer Simpson " DOH !
" I worked in Sacramento / Folsom , CA and now in the D.C. / Baltimore area all in all about the same , but you always have low ball employers out there who will overwork you for slave pay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you believe all the Tim Allen narrated Michigan commercials on TV lately you'd think Michigan is the best place on Earth.. but then I saw the GM building at the end of the commercial and had to give a Homer Simpson "DOH!
" I worked in Sacramento / Folsom , CA and now in the D.C. / Baltimore area all in all about the same, but you always have low ball employers out there who will overwork you for slave pay.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442827</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>VAXcat</author>
	<datestamp>1245786240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>  "the referendum system blocks them from doing anything that's unpopular with 51\% of the voters"...yes, damn those pesky voters - how are politicians  supposed to wield unlimited power and do things that are totally against the will of the governed under these circumstances? Sounds like a horrible situation...</htmltext>
<tokenext>" the referendum system blocks them from doing anything that 's unpopular with 51 \ % of the voters " ...yes , damn those pesky voters - how are politicians supposed to wield unlimited power and do things that are totally against the will of the governed under these circumstances ?
Sounds like a horrible situation.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  "the referendum system blocks them from doing anything that's unpopular with 51\% of the voters"...yes, damn those pesky voters - how are politicians  supposed to wield unlimited power and do things that are totally against the will of the governed under these circumstances?
Sounds like a horrible situation...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444491</id>
	<title>Re:Southern Utah....</title>
	<author>Adm.Wiggin</author>
	<datestamp>1245748740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Going to college in Southern Utah for a BS in CS, I can see why.  Most of my fellow students are pathetic at best.  There are a few exceptional ones, but they are quite far between.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Going to college in Southern Utah for a BS in CS , I can see why .
Most of my fellow students are pathetic at best .
There are a few exceptional ones , but they are quite far between .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Going to college in Southern Utah for a BS in CS, I can see why.
Most of my fellow students are pathetic at best.
There are a few exceptional ones, but they are quite far between.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444709</id>
	<title>Re:Orlando</title>
	<author>infinite9</author>
	<datestamp>1245749520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My CS degree is from UCF.  UCF was great.  But I tried to start my career in orlando and got nowhere.  I found myself competing for low paying salaried jobs against people from colder states with masters degrees who were willing to pay the sunshine tax.  Florida sucks.  Let me count the ways.  Florida is a state full of rich people and the poor people who serve them.  Incomes are low.  Housing costs were high.  Bugs.  Oppressive heat.  Air conditioners in public places are frequently tired and insufficient.  High humidity ensuring 90 degree evenings.   Frequent food poisoning from inadequate refrigeration.  Torrential rain.  Skin cancer from an oppressive sun.  Bugs.  Hurricanes.  Did I mention the bugs?  First, there's love bugs.  They're these annoying flies that swarm and fuck in mid air.  When your car hits them, you have 8 hours to wash them off.  If you don't they eat through the paint on your car.  I had to stop my daily 2 mile jog because I kept inhaling bugs.  Then there are several varieties of roach, the best being the Palmetto Bug.  This is a giant flying roach.  Nice.  Then there's ants.  At one point we had 5 varieties of ant in our house.  They go after everything.  Leave dirty dishes in your dishwasher waiting for a full load?  Expect ants in your dishwasher.  Ever put a half used box if cereal in your pantry?  Expect ants floating in your cereal in the morning.  Leave dirty dishes in your kitchen sink?  Ants.  Food crumbs between the keys in your keyboard?  Ants.  Only inside the fridge was safe because they didn't like the cold.  I had ants in my <i>car</i> at one point.  Then there's the fire ants.  Giant spiders.  Mosquitoes... People were building houses with conduit built into the walls that the exterminator could access outside your house.  Sprays bug spray right into your walls.  </p><p>At least you don't have to shovel sunshine!  Bite me.  Florida sucks.  Leaving was the best thing I ever did.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My CS degree is from UCF .
UCF was great .
But I tried to start my career in orlando and got nowhere .
I found myself competing for low paying salaried jobs against people from colder states with masters degrees who were willing to pay the sunshine tax .
Florida sucks .
Let me count the ways .
Florida is a state full of rich people and the poor people who serve them .
Incomes are low .
Housing costs were high .
Bugs. Oppressive heat .
Air conditioners in public places are frequently tired and insufficient .
High humidity ensuring 90 degree evenings .
Frequent food poisoning from inadequate refrigeration .
Torrential rain .
Skin cancer from an oppressive sun .
Bugs. Hurricanes .
Did I mention the bugs ?
First , there 's love bugs .
They 're these annoying flies that swarm and fuck in mid air .
When your car hits them , you have 8 hours to wash them off .
If you do n't they eat through the paint on your car .
I had to stop my daily 2 mile jog because I kept inhaling bugs .
Then there are several varieties of roach , the best being the Palmetto Bug .
This is a giant flying roach .
Nice. Then there 's ants .
At one point we had 5 varieties of ant in our house .
They go after everything .
Leave dirty dishes in your dishwasher waiting for a full load ?
Expect ants in your dishwasher .
Ever put a half used box if cereal in your pantry ?
Expect ants floating in your cereal in the morning .
Leave dirty dishes in your kitchen sink ?
Ants. Food crumbs between the keys in your keyboard ?
Ants. Only inside the fridge was safe because they did n't like the cold .
I had ants in my car at one point .
Then there 's the fire ants .
Giant spiders .
Mosquitoes... People were building houses with conduit built into the walls that the exterminator could access outside your house .
Sprays bug spray right into your walls .
At least you do n't have to shovel sunshine !
Bite me .
Florida sucks .
Leaving was the best thing I ever did .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My CS degree is from UCF.
UCF was great.
But I tried to start my career in orlando and got nowhere.
I found myself competing for low paying salaried jobs against people from colder states with masters degrees who were willing to pay the sunshine tax.
Florida sucks.
Let me count the ways.
Florida is a state full of rich people and the poor people who serve them.
Incomes are low.
Housing costs were high.
Bugs.  Oppressive heat.
Air conditioners in public places are frequently tired and insufficient.
High humidity ensuring 90 degree evenings.
Frequent food poisoning from inadequate refrigeration.
Torrential rain.
Skin cancer from an oppressive sun.
Bugs.  Hurricanes.
Did I mention the bugs?
First, there's love bugs.
They're these annoying flies that swarm and fuck in mid air.
When your car hits them, you have 8 hours to wash them off.
If you don't they eat through the paint on your car.
I had to stop my daily 2 mile jog because I kept inhaling bugs.
Then there are several varieties of roach, the best being the Palmetto Bug.
This is a giant flying roach.
Nice.  Then there's ants.
At one point we had 5 varieties of ant in our house.
They go after everything.
Leave dirty dishes in your dishwasher waiting for a full load?
Expect ants in your dishwasher.
Ever put a half used box if cereal in your pantry?
Expect ants floating in your cereal in the morning.
Leave dirty dishes in your kitchen sink?
Ants.  Food crumbs between the keys in your keyboard?
Ants.  Only inside the fridge was safe because they didn't like the cold.
I had ants in my car at one point.
Then there's the fire ants.
Giant spiders.
Mosquitoes... People were building houses with conduit built into the walls that the exterminator could access outside your house.
Sprays bug spray right into your walls.
At least you don't have to shovel sunshine!
Bite me.
Florida sucks.
Leaving was the best thing I ever did.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442233</id>
	<title>Re:No way</title>
	<author>module0000</author>
	<datestamp>1245784200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, you're wrong.  I just moved back from Alaska.  The hunting and fishing is perceived as great because the movies paint it that way - it's just *different* game, not more or less of it.</p><p>Reasons NOT to raise your family in Alaska:</p><p>1) At rush hour, you're stopped at a red light, and you notice 10 drunk/unconious/vomit-covered natives laying on the sidewalk, surrounded by bodily waste and empty whiskey bottles.  You realize they make MORE money than you, for doing absolutely nothing.</p><p>2) You may have hit a deer in your car, and you might have even got it fixed.  Not only do moose kill your car on impact, they usually kill you too.</p><p>3) Moose everywhere in the cities, and they are very territorial.  So much that the primary animal-related cause of death in Alaska is - you guessed it - moose stomping your guts out.</p><p>4) Minus 80 degrees in the winter, and 100-105 degrees in the summer with humidity to boot! (everywhere BUT Anchorage and the SE area below it)</p><p>5) High prices!  $5.00 + a gallon gas, $5-10 per pound of apples, and similar prices for all vegetables/fruit.  Why?  Because it's all imported.</p><p>6) It's DARK in the winter.  Ever heard of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal\_affective\_disorder" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">SAD</a> [wikipedia.org]?  It's epidemic - the state recommends you leave your x-mas lights up year round to help combat this.</p><p>The list could go on...and on...and on...  Until you've lived there, you will only have a romantic notion of the place that is sold to you by the television and movies.  It's not real!<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , you 're wrong .
I just moved back from Alaska .
The hunting and fishing is perceived as great because the movies paint it that way - it 's just * different * game , not more or less of it.Reasons NOT to raise your family in Alaska : 1 ) At rush hour , you 're stopped at a red light , and you notice 10 drunk/unconious/vomit-covered natives laying on the sidewalk , surrounded by bodily waste and empty whiskey bottles .
You realize they make MORE money than you , for doing absolutely nothing.2 ) You may have hit a deer in your car , and you might have even got it fixed .
Not only do moose kill your car on impact , they usually kill you too.3 ) Moose everywhere in the cities , and they are very territorial .
So much that the primary animal-related cause of death in Alaska is - you guessed it - moose stomping your guts out.4 ) Minus 80 degrees in the winter , and 100-105 degrees in the summer with humidity to boot !
( everywhere BUT Anchorage and the SE area below it ) 5 ) High prices !
$ 5.00 + a gallon gas , $ 5-10 per pound of apples , and similar prices for all vegetables/fruit .
Why ? Because it 's all imported.6 ) It 's DARK in the winter .
Ever heard of SAD [ wikipedia.org ] ?
It 's epidemic - the state recommends you leave your x-mas lights up year round to help combat this.The list could go on...and on...and on... Until you 've lived there , you will only have a romantic notion of the place that is sold to you by the television and movies .
It 's not real !
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, you're wrong.
I just moved back from Alaska.
The hunting and fishing is perceived as great because the movies paint it that way - it's just *different* game, not more or less of it.Reasons NOT to raise your family in Alaska:1) At rush hour, you're stopped at a red light, and you notice 10 drunk/unconious/vomit-covered natives laying on the sidewalk, surrounded by bodily waste and empty whiskey bottles.
You realize they make MORE money than you, for doing absolutely nothing.2) You may have hit a deer in your car, and you might have even got it fixed.
Not only do moose kill your car on impact, they usually kill you too.3) Moose everywhere in the cities, and they are very territorial.
So much that the primary animal-related cause of death in Alaska is - you guessed it - moose stomping your guts out.4) Minus 80 degrees in the winter, and 100-105 degrees in the summer with humidity to boot!
(everywhere BUT Anchorage and the SE area below it)5) High prices!
$5.00 + a gallon gas, $5-10 per pound of apples, and similar prices for all vegetables/fruit.
Why?  Because it's all imported.6) It's DARK in the winter.
Ever heard of SAD [wikipedia.org]?
It's epidemic - the state recommends you leave your x-mas lights up year round to help combat this.The list could go on...and on...and on...  Until you've lived there, you will only have a romantic notion of the place that is sold to you by the television and movies.
It's not real!
 </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440747</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>morgan\_greywolf</author>
	<datestamp>1245779040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, yes it is.  That's why I live in Tampa now.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , yes it is .
That 's why I live in Tampa now .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, yes it is.
That's why I live in Tampa now.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441011</id>
	<title>Re:Gary Indiana</title>
	<author>Ihmhi</author>
	<datestamp>1245780060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Devoid of culture and worn out? It already looks like tha-</p><p>Oh, the CITY!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Devoid of culture and worn out ?
It already looks like tha-Oh , the CITY !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Devoid of culture and worn out?
It already looks like tha-Oh, the CITY!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440641</id>
	<title>Re:The complete list</title>
	<author>darjen</author>
	<datestamp>1245778680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I lived in Cleveland for several years. It's not that bad as long as you avoid about 50\% of the city.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I lived in Cleveland for several years .
It 's not that bad as long as you avoid about 50 \ % of the city .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I lived in Cleveland for several years.
It's not that bad as long as you avoid about 50\% of the city.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440609</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>Jah-Wren Ryel</author>
	<datestamp>1245778620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What a worthless list. What did anything they talked about have anything to do with IT?</p></div><p>Totally.  I want to know which cities have the best (fastest/cheapest/least-restrictive) broadband to the home and have good/free muni-wifi.  Which ones have a Fry's or the like, which ones are in states with low/no sales tax and/or don't try to impose "use tax" for mail-ordered toys.  Which states don't require fingerprints to get a driver's license.  Which cities have a "university culture."  Which ones have cheap electricity for the server farm in my basement.</p><p>Those sorts of things are a lot more specific to IT people than the weather and sports franchises.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What a worthless list .
What did anything they talked about have anything to do with IT ? Totally .
I want to know which cities have the best ( fastest/cheapest/least-restrictive ) broadband to the home and have good/free muni-wifi .
Which ones have a Fry 's or the like , which ones are in states with low/no sales tax and/or do n't try to impose " use tax " for mail-ordered toys .
Which states do n't require fingerprints to get a driver 's license .
Which cities have a " university culture .
" Which ones have cheap electricity for the server farm in my basement.Those sorts of things are a lot more specific to IT people than the weather and sports franchises .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a worthless list.
What did anything they talked about have anything to do with IT?Totally.
I want to know which cities have the best (fastest/cheapest/least-restrictive) broadband to the home and have good/free muni-wifi.
Which ones have a Fry's or the like, which ones are in states with low/no sales tax and/or don't try to impose "use tax" for mail-ordered toys.
Which states don't require fingerprints to get a driver's license.
Which cities have a "university culture.
"  Which ones have cheap electricity for the server farm in my basement.Those sorts of things are a lot more specific to IT people than the weather and sports franchises.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444949</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>chiefbutz</author>
	<datestamp>1245750240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Technically every spider is poisonous, just not always enough to effect humans. So there goes part of a point...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Technically every spider is poisonous , just not always enough to effect humans .
So there goes part of a point.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Technically every spider is poisonous, just not always enough to effect humans.
So there goes part of a point...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441605</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>IntlHarvester</author>
	<datestamp>1245782160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The obvious example -- Silicon Valley is nearly vintage 1970s suburbia with more chinese/indian food.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The obvious example -- Silicon Valley is nearly vintage 1970s suburbia with more chinese/indian food .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The obvious example -- Silicon Valley is nearly vintage 1970s suburbia with more chinese/indian food.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440973</id>
	<title>Re:The complete list</title>
	<author>hoggoth</author>
	<datestamp>1245779880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Is a sports championship a positive or a negative? It can be either one or neither, but it can't be both!</p><p>It's a positive.</p><p>Unless it's the Red Sox.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Is a sports championship a positive or a negative ?
It can be either one or neither , but it ca n't be both ! It 's a positive.Unless it 's the Red Sox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Is a sports championship a positive or a negative?
It can be either one or neither, but it can't be both!It's a positive.Unless it's the Red Sox.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442767</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>CRiMSON</author>
	<datestamp>1245786060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They did research....</p><p>show me jobs on dice in US cities.. Wow these sucks.. print it up!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They did research....show me jobs on dice in US cities.. Wow these sucks.. print it up !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They did research....show me jobs on dice in US cities.. Wow these sucks.. print it up!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28446129</id>
	<title>CentOS developers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245754920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What was the name of that city a few years ago where the IT guy went ape-shit because his web server was displaying the default CentOS page... Turtleton? That would probably be the worst place to work in for IT.</p><p>Ah, here it is: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/24/tuttle\_centos/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What was the name of that city a few years ago where the IT guy went ape-shit because his web server was displaying the default CentOS page... Turtleton ? That would probably be the worst place to work in for IT.Ah , here it is : http : //www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/24/tuttle \ _centos/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What was the name of that city a few years ago where the IT guy went ape-shit because his web server was displaying the default CentOS page... Turtleton? That would probably be the worst place to work in for IT.Ah, here it is: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/24/tuttle\_centos/</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441205</id>
	<title>Dallas??</title>
	<author>jschmitz</author>
	<datestamp>1245780720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Houston has WAY more of an thriving IT market than Dallas considering most every oil company there is has a headquarters here..Dallas has EDS..TI and a few others but there is no comparison</htmltext>
<tokenext>Houston has WAY more of an thriving IT market than Dallas considering most every oil company there is has a headquarters here..Dallas has EDS..TI and a few others but there is no comparison</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Houston has WAY more of an thriving IT market than Dallas considering most every oil company there is has a headquarters here..Dallas has EDS..TI and a few others but there is no comparison</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443141</id>
	<title>Re:Big market bias</title>
	<author>BountyX</author>
	<datestamp>1245787320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cleveland was ranked #5 best cities for recent college graduates by <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/worklife/05/13/cb.top10.cities.grads/index.html" title="cnn.com">CNN</a> [cnn.com]. If you're a talented IT professional Cleveland is the place to be. You can buy a nice 4 story home in the burbs for 80k-100k, enjoy the beach, and make 65k at a regular IT job here. There is a 16k difference in disposable income between Cleveland and chicago, I highly doubt you can live the same lifestyle in Chicago and still maintain a large amount of disposable income.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cleveland was ranked # 5 best cities for recent college graduates by CNN [ cnn.com ] .
If you 're a talented IT professional Cleveland is the place to be .
You can buy a nice 4 story home in the burbs for 80k-100k , enjoy the beach , and make 65k at a regular IT job here .
There is a 16k difference in disposable income between Cleveland and chicago , I highly doubt you can live the same lifestyle in Chicago and still maintain a large amount of disposable income .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cleveland was ranked #5 best cities for recent college graduates by CNN [cnn.com].
If you're a talented IT professional Cleveland is the place to be.
You can buy a nice 4 story home in the burbs for 80k-100k, enjoy the beach, and make 65k at a regular IT job here.
There is a 16k difference in disposable income between Cleveland and chicago, I highly doubt you can live the same lifestyle in Chicago and still maintain a large amount of disposable income.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441059</id>
	<title>Move there. Now! Please!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245780240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Take my governor with you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Take my governor with you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take my governor with you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28445643</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>RyoShin</author>
	<datestamp>1245752880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>2) We've got 4 seasons (which is good or bad depending on your preference).</p></div></blockquote><p>Really? I spent five years on-and-off in Michigan at Kettering University.  I only ever experienced two seasons: Winter and Potholes.  During potholes it wasn't uncommon for it to rain a week straight.</p><p>The weather in Michigan alone is more than enough to keep me from ever going back there permanently. A number of other factors, including it's economy, just sets that in stone.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>2 ) We 've got 4 seasons ( which is good or bad depending on your preference ) .Really ?
I spent five years on-and-off in Michigan at Kettering University .
I only ever experienced two seasons : Winter and Potholes .
During potholes it was n't uncommon for it to rain a week straight.The weather in Michigan alone is more than enough to keep me from ever going back there permanently .
A number of other factors , including it 's economy , just sets that in stone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2) We've got 4 seasons (which is good or bad depending on your preference).Really?
I spent five years on-and-off in Michigan at Kettering University.
I only ever experienced two seasons: Winter and Potholes.
During potholes it wasn't uncommon for it to rain a week straight.The weather in Michigan alone is more than enough to keep me from ever going back there permanently.
A number of other factors, including it's economy, just sets that in stone.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441581</id>
	<title>Burlington, Vermont</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245782100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Burlington, Vermont is really horrible. Cost of living is ridiculously high and the tech industry pays you about half of what your worth.</p><p>Food and Real Estate are soooo expensive.</p><p>$100 worth of food will last you half way through the week, possibly through the week if you budget well and hit the sales. Mind you, this is for one person. (I am not overweight by any means, very in-shape and eat less than most).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Burlington , Vermont is really horrible .
Cost of living is ridiculously high and the tech industry pays you about half of what your worth.Food and Real Estate are soooo expensive. $ 100 worth of food will last you half way through the week , possibly through the week if you budget well and hit the sales .
Mind you , this is for one person .
( I am not overweight by any means , very in-shape and eat less than most ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Burlington, Vermont is really horrible.
Cost of living is ridiculously high and the tech industry pays you about half of what your worth.Food and Real Estate are soooo expensive.$100 worth of food will last you half way through the week, possibly through the week if you budget well and hit the sales.
Mind you, this is for one person.
(I am not overweight by any means, very in-shape and eat less than most).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443051</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>ageoffri</author>
	<datestamp>1245787020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>/. must be slipping, I expected this sort of highly open-minded response to be the very first reply.  I even joked with a friend asking him how long before my original was marked troll or flamebait.</p><p>I think I was pretty clear that the Alaskan State budget is doing well because of the oil that is up there.  So chances are if there wasn't oil it would be in just as bad of shape as the average State, but I doubt it would be anywhere near as bad as California.  Then again maybe not, if there weren't oil a significant amount of the population wouldn't be in the State.</p><p>Now I'm going to blow your enlightened mind with some things I'm sure you won't believe.  One can be a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment as a personal right and at the same time despise organized religion.  Also when I referenced immigration I should have been more clear that I'm only against illegal immigration and I wasn't the one who picked out specific groups.  To me it doesn't matter the color of your skin if you are an immigrant, only one thing matters.  Is the immigrant here legally or illegally?  If illegally then they should be deported and if caught a second time permanently barred from entering the US or applying for citizenship.  If here legally then good for them.</p><p>It is possible for some of us to not blindly follow party lines.  It is possible to support the 2nd Amendment and at the same time support marriage between any two consenting adults.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>/ .
must be slipping , I expected this sort of highly open-minded response to be the very first reply .
I even joked with a friend asking him how long before my original was marked troll or flamebait.I think I was pretty clear that the Alaskan State budget is doing well because of the oil that is up there .
So chances are if there was n't oil it would be in just as bad of shape as the average State , but I doubt it would be anywhere near as bad as California .
Then again maybe not , if there were n't oil a significant amount of the population would n't be in the State.Now I 'm going to blow your enlightened mind with some things I 'm sure you wo n't believe .
One can be a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment as a personal right and at the same time despise organized religion .
Also when I referenced immigration I should have been more clear that I 'm only against illegal immigration and I was n't the one who picked out specific groups .
To me it does n't matter the color of your skin if you are an immigrant , only one thing matters .
Is the immigrant here legally or illegally ?
If illegally then they should be deported and if caught a second time permanently barred from entering the US or applying for citizenship .
If here legally then good for them.It is possible for some of us to not blindly follow party lines .
It is possible to support the 2nd Amendment and at the same time support marriage between any two consenting adults .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>/.
must be slipping, I expected this sort of highly open-minded response to be the very first reply.
I even joked with a friend asking him how long before my original was marked troll or flamebait.I think I was pretty clear that the Alaskan State budget is doing well because of the oil that is up there.
So chances are if there wasn't oil it would be in just as bad of shape as the average State, but I doubt it would be anywhere near as bad as California.
Then again maybe not, if there weren't oil a significant amount of the population wouldn't be in the State.Now I'm going to blow your enlightened mind with some things I'm sure you won't believe.
One can be a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment as a personal right and at the same time despise organized religion.
Also when I referenced immigration I should have been more clear that I'm only against illegal immigration and I wasn't the one who picked out specific groups.
To me it doesn't matter the color of your skin if you are an immigrant, only one thing matters.
Is the immigrant here legally or illegally?
If illegally then they should be deported and if caught a second time permanently barred from entering the US or applying for citizenship.
If here legally then good for them.It is possible for some of us to not blindly follow party lines.
It is possible to support the 2nd Amendment and at the same time support marriage between any two consenting adults.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443971</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>alphajim</author>
	<datestamp>1245790200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>1.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..which is ice locked for how many months a year? 3-4?  And when it does thaw, it's so cold that nobody really spends much time in it.
<p>
2. More like 3.  Winter, Mosquito, fall
</p><p>
3. I suspect those are people getting away from the central midwest
</p><p>
4. Ice storms?  Overcast from october through march?
</p><p>
5. about the same as anywhere that's not tornado alley
</p><p>
6-8 I'll spot you these, but in the end, you have to sell yourself to the C level people who make location decisions and they've been fleeing the old rust belt for 40 years.  I'm sorry, I'm from Buffalo and I feel your pain.  Almost everybody I grew up with left for anywhere else. Cars were built in Detroit because it was on/near great lakes, steel mills, rail arteries and coal deposits.  Otherwise it's a good place for orchards and other agg, but after you shoot the last CWD infested deer, then what do you do for fun?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
..which is ice locked for how many months a year ?
3-4 ? And when it does thaw , it 's so cold that nobody really spends much time in it .
2. More like 3 .
Winter , Mosquito , fall 3 .
I suspect those are people getting away from the central midwest 4 .
Ice storms ?
Overcast from october through march ?
5. about the same as anywhere that 's not tornado alley 6-8 I 'll spot you these , but in the end , you have to sell yourself to the C level people who make location decisions and they 've been fleeing the old rust belt for 40 years .
I 'm sorry , I 'm from Buffalo and I feel your pain .
Almost everybody I grew up with left for anywhere else .
Cars were built in Detroit because it was on/near great lakes , steel mills , rail arteries and coal deposits .
Otherwise it 's a good place for orchards and other agg , but after you shoot the last CWD infested deer , then what do you do for fun ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
..which is ice locked for how many months a year?
3-4?  And when it does thaw, it's so cold that nobody really spends much time in it.
2. More like 3.
Winter, Mosquito, fall

3.
I suspect those are people getting away from the central midwest

4.
Ice storms?
Overcast from october through march?
5. about the same as anywhere that's not tornado alley

6-8 I'll spot you these, but in the end, you have to sell yourself to the C level people who make location decisions and they've been fleeing the old rust belt for 40 years.
I'm sorry, I'm from Buffalo and I feel your pain.
Almost everybody I grew up with left for anywhere else.
Cars were built in Detroit because it was on/near great lakes, steel mills, rail arteries and coal deposits.
Otherwise it's a good place for orchards and other agg, but after you shoot the last CWD infested deer, then what do you do for fun?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442027</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>eldorel</author>
	<datestamp>1245783480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, I would PAY for an analysis like this.<br>($10 or so, but there would have to be a free example given. Perhaps of my home town, that way I can check accuracy.)</p><p>I live in area that fails on all of the points you mentioned, and want to get out of here in the next few years.</p><p>However, the last thing I want to do is move to an area that seems good, but isn't.</p><p>Also,  does anyone else ever notice how when you want mod points, you don't have them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , I would PAY for an analysis like this .
( $ 10 or so , but there would have to be a free example given .
Perhaps of my home town , that way I can check accuracy .
) I live in area that fails on all of the points you mentioned , and want to get out of here in the next few years.However , the last thing I want to do is move to an area that seems good , but is n't.Also , does anyone else ever notice how when you want mod points , you do n't have them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, I would PAY for an analysis like this.
($10 or so, but there would have to be a free example given.
Perhaps of my home town, that way I can check accuracy.
)I live in area that fails on all of the points you mentioned, and want to get out of here in the next few years.However, the last thing I want to do is move to an area that seems good, but isn't.Also,  does anyone else ever notice how when you want mod points, you don't have them?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444453</id>
	<title>Subjective?</title>
	<author>stewbacca</author>
	<datestamp>1245748620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's so subjective about "Detroit, Arkansas and Cleveland suck"?  Pretty good list, if you ask me.  I could think of worse places than Orlando, though.  No State income tax is nice.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's so subjective about " Detroit , Arkansas and Cleveland suck " ?
Pretty good list , if you ask me .
I could think of worse places than Orlando , though .
No State income tax is nice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's so subjective about "Detroit, Arkansas and Cleveland suck"?
Pretty good list, if you ask me.
I could think of worse places than Orlando, though.
No State income tax is nice.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443509</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>techno-vampire</author>
	<datestamp>1245788700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>4) We've don't get earthquakes, hurricanes, forest fires, termites, poisonous spiders/snakes.</i> <p>
How boring.  Of course, I live in Southern California where we have all of the above except hurricanes, so my viewpoint is a tad biased.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>4 ) We 've do n't get earthquakes , hurricanes , forest fires , termites , poisonous spiders/snakes .
How boring .
Of course , I live in Southern California where we have all of the above except hurricanes , so my viewpoint is a tad biased .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>4) We've don't get earthquakes, hurricanes, forest fires, termites, poisonous spiders/snakes.
How boring.
Of course, I live in Southern California where we have all of the above except hurricanes, so my viewpoint is a tad biased.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441111</id>
	<title>They missed a couple</title>
	<author>HangingChad</author>
	<datestamp>1245780360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My personal worst list:

</p><ul>
<li>Memphis, TN - The capitol of North Mississippi. Grimy, dirty, backward city with one of the highest crime rates in the country.  Not even tourists want to go there anymore.  Redbirds Stadium is a great place for a ball game but entertainment outside that sucks ass.</li>

<li>North Platte, NE - If there's a place that can make Memphis look attractive, it would be that hell hole of a city.</li>
</ul><p>I agree with Bentonville.  Wal-Mart has to outsource development because it's such a crappy place to work and then you have to live in podunkville, AR, for the privilege of working in a crap shop.  Their turn over is high and even the really good people I know who have worked there hated it.

</p><p>Even with the economy in the toilet there are too many good opportunities out there to be stuck in a dreary job.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My personal worst list : Memphis , TN - The capitol of North Mississippi .
Grimy , dirty , backward city with one of the highest crime rates in the country .
Not even tourists want to go there anymore .
Redbirds Stadium is a great place for a ball game but entertainment outside that sucks ass .
North Platte , NE - If there 's a place that can make Memphis look attractive , it would be that hell hole of a city .
I agree with Bentonville .
Wal-Mart has to outsource development because it 's such a crappy place to work and then you have to live in podunkville , AR , for the privilege of working in a crap shop .
Their turn over is high and even the really good people I know who have worked there hated it .
Even with the economy in the toilet there are too many good opportunities out there to be stuck in a dreary job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My personal worst list:


Memphis, TN - The capitol of North Mississippi.
Grimy, dirty, backward city with one of the highest crime rates in the country.
Not even tourists want to go there anymore.
Redbirds Stadium is a great place for a ball game but entertainment outside that sucks ass.
North Platte, NE - If there's a place that can make Memphis look attractive, it would be that hell hole of a city.
I agree with Bentonville.
Wal-Mart has to outsource development because it's such a crappy place to work and then you have to live in podunkville, AR, for the privilege of working in a crap shop.
Their turn over is high and even the really good people I know who have worked there hated it.
Even with the economy in the toilet there are too many good opportunities out there to be stuck in a dreary job.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440315</id>
	<title>Re:The complete list</title>
	<author>jimbobborg</author>
	<datestamp>1245777540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I find it funny that Boston is on both the best and worst list.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I find it funny that Boston is on both the best and worst list .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find it funny that Boston is on both the best and worst list.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28445243</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245751320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Geek schools?</p><p>MIT?</p><p>Berkeley?</p><p>Carnegie-Mellon?</p><p>Stanford?</p><p>Cornell?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Geek schools ? MIT ? Berkeley ? Carnegie-Mellon ? Stanford ? Cornell ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Geek schools?MIT?Berkeley?Carnegie-Mellon?Stanford?Cornell?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441533</id>
	<title>Re:Upstate New York Isn't That Bad...</title>
	<author>CapsaicinBoy</author>
	<datestamp>1245781980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I lived in Syracuse for 19 years and then Ithaca for another 5. Since moving away, I've also lived in California (Oakland Hills) and southern New England. And you are absolutely right - the snow simply isn't a big deal as the municipalities have the knowledge, equipment, budget, and planning to cope.</p><p>I've seen CT and RI cities paralyzed by snow that CNYers would laugh at. But here is the critical distinction - it's not that folks are more hardy, it's that the towns deal with it in a timely and appropriate manner. Here in Rhode Island, they do a halfassed job plowing, and then cross their fingers and pray it will melt. Well, that's fine assuming it doesn't then melt and refreeze into sheets of ice, which it seems to do more times than not. In contrast, after a CNY storm, the road is dry and black 1 or 2 days later, even when your lawn still has 6-12 inches of accumulated snow.</p><p>Besides, update is incredibly verdant the rest of the year. As I said, I've lived in Northern California, and the 'golden hills' are just a nice euphemism for brown.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I lived in Syracuse for 19 years and then Ithaca for another 5 .
Since moving away , I 've also lived in California ( Oakland Hills ) and southern New England .
And you are absolutely right - the snow simply is n't a big deal as the municipalities have the knowledge , equipment , budget , and planning to cope.I 've seen CT and RI cities paralyzed by snow that CNYers would laugh at .
But here is the critical distinction - it 's not that folks are more hardy , it 's that the towns deal with it in a timely and appropriate manner .
Here in Rhode Island , they do a halfassed job plowing , and then cross their fingers and pray it will melt .
Well , that 's fine assuming it does n't then melt and refreeze into sheets of ice , which it seems to do more times than not .
In contrast , after a CNY storm , the road is dry and black 1 or 2 days later , even when your lawn still has 6-12 inches of accumulated snow.Besides , update is incredibly verdant the rest of the year .
As I said , I 've lived in Northern California , and the 'golden hills ' are just a nice euphemism for brown .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I lived in Syracuse for 19 years and then Ithaca for another 5.
Since moving away, I've also lived in California (Oakland Hills) and southern New England.
And you are absolutely right - the snow simply isn't a big deal as the municipalities have the knowledge, equipment, budget, and planning to cope.I've seen CT and RI cities paralyzed by snow that CNYers would laugh at.
But here is the critical distinction - it's not that folks are more hardy, it's that the towns deal with it in a timely and appropriate manner.
Here in Rhode Island, they do a halfassed job plowing, and then cross their fingers and pray it will melt.
Well, that's fine assuming it doesn't then melt and refreeze into sheets of ice, which it seems to do more times than not.
In contrast, after a CNY storm, the road is dry and black 1 or 2 days later, even when your lawn still has 6-12 inches of accumulated snow.Besides, update is incredibly verdant the rest of the year.
As I said, I've lived in Northern California, and the 'golden hills' are just a nice euphemism for brown.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442547</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>winomonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1245785340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hey, we all know that it's cold in the D<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aktLRiWXfqg" title="youtube.com">so cold in the D</a> [youtube.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , we all know that it 's cold in the D ... so cold in the D [ youtube.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, we all know that it's cold in the D ... so cold in the D [youtube.com].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28445651</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>The Analog Kid</author>
	<datestamp>1245752880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>8) We've got an enormous set of technically capable people just waiting for companies to set up shop here.</p></div><p>They aren't coming.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>8 ) We 've got an enormous set of technically capable people just waiting for companies to set up shop here.They are n't coming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>8) We've got an enormous set of technically capable people just waiting for companies to set up shop here.They aren't coming.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444313</id>
	<title>Re:Missing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245748080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Washington D.C. The entire metropolitan area is one big mess</i></p><p>No kidding, Between the Super Mutants and the Feral Ghouls in the metro, it's almost uninhabitable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Washington D.C. The entire metropolitan area is one big messNo kidding , Between the Super Mutants and the Feral Ghouls in the metro , it 's almost uninhabitable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Washington D.C. The entire metropolitan area is one big messNo kidding, Between the Super Mutants and the Feral Ghouls in the metro, it's almost uninhabitable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28445483</id>
	<title>I'm not sold</title>
	<author>sissyneck67</author>
	<datestamp>1245752160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Living currently in Chicago, and seeing that nearly half of Chicago's population appears to be from Michigan, I'm not convinced Michigan is the great state everyone makes it out to be.  All I see is a mass exodus into the city and a bunch of people pointing to somewhere on their hands, telling me how great the state they don't live in is.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Living currently in Chicago , and seeing that nearly half of Chicago 's population appears to be from Michigan , I 'm not convinced Michigan is the great state everyone makes it out to be .
All I see is a mass exodus into the city and a bunch of people pointing to somewhere on their hands , telling me how great the state they do n't live in is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Living currently in Chicago, and seeing that nearly half of Chicago's population appears to be from Michigan, I'm not convinced Michigan is the great state everyone makes it out to be.
All I see is a mass exodus into the city and a bunch of people pointing to somewhere on their hands, telling me how great the state they don't live in is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442533</id>
	<title>Re:Upstate New York Isn't That Bad...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245785280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've lived in upstate NY (Schenectady) and after having lived in other parts of the country I have this to offer:</p><p>* upstate NY weather sucks except for 2 weeks in the Fall.  Otherwise it is way too cold or way too hot<br>* jobs are scarce<br>* restaurants are pretty good, for some reason there's a lack of franchises so there are a lot of mom and pop / local restaurants<br>* taxes are high<br>* everyone's been there for 70+ years<br>* lot of people are on welfare</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've lived in upstate NY ( Schenectady ) and after having lived in other parts of the country I have this to offer : * upstate NY weather sucks except for 2 weeks in the Fall .
Otherwise it is way too cold or way too hot * jobs are scarce * restaurants are pretty good , for some reason there 's a lack of franchises so there are a lot of mom and pop / local restaurants * taxes are high * everyone 's been there for 70 + years * lot of people are on welfare</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've lived in upstate NY (Schenectady) and after having lived in other parts of the country I have this to offer:* upstate NY weather sucks except for 2 weeks in the Fall.
Otherwise it is way too cold or way too hot* jobs are scarce* restaurants are pretty good, for some reason there's a lack of franchises so there are a lot of mom and pop / local restaurants* taxes are high* everyone's been there for 70+ years* lot of people are on welfare</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440761</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>wjousts</author>
	<datestamp>1245779100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'd gladly take a position in Alaska.  Wide open land with relatively few people.  No overbearing State government that can't balance the budget, not much of an immigration problem up there either. </p></div><p>What about all those Russians that Sarah Palin so bravely keeps us safe from?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd gladly take a position in Alaska .
Wide open land with relatively few people .
No overbearing State government that ca n't balance the budget , not much of an immigration problem up there either .
What about all those Russians that Sarah Palin so bravely keeps us safe from ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd gladly take a position in Alaska.
Wide open land with relatively few people.
No overbearing State government that can't balance the budget, not much of an immigration problem up there either.
What about all those Russians that Sarah Palin so bravely keeps us safe from?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440729</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>eln</author>
	<datestamp>1245778980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>California's problem is not all the "tax and spend liberals", it's that it has the most boneheaded system of government ever devised.  It's Constitution is huge and unwieldy, and can be changed by a simple majority vote.  Its government can't do anything like raise taxes or cut spending to balance the budget because the referendum system blocks them from doing anything that's unpopular with 51\% of the voters.
<br> <br>
California is a great study in why populist democracy is a lousy way to run a huge and complex state.</htmltext>
<tokenext>California 's problem is not all the " tax and spend liberals " , it 's that it has the most boneheaded system of government ever devised .
It 's Constitution is huge and unwieldy , and can be changed by a simple majority vote .
Its government ca n't do anything like raise taxes or cut spending to balance the budget because the referendum system blocks them from doing anything that 's unpopular with 51 \ % of the voters .
California is a great study in why populist democracy is a lousy way to run a huge and complex state .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>California's problem is not all the "tax and spend liberals", it's that it has the most boneheaded system of government ever devised.
It's Constitution is huge and unwieldy, and can be changed by a simple majority vote.
Its government can't do anything like raise taxes or cut spending to balance the budget because the referendum system blocks them from doing anything that's unpopular with 51\% of the voters.
California is a great study in why populist democracy is a lousy way to run a huge and complex state.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443945</id>
	<title>Re:Missing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245790140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I live in Arlington and work downtown.  It generally takes me 20 minutes to get to work; 10 minutes walking and 10 minutes on the metro.  I go shopping on my way home from work, it's about 1 1/2 minutes out of my way.  I can get to all kinds of events and activities on any given night in 30 minutes.  Just about the only time I use my car is on the weekends.  I think that DC is great area to live in.</p><p>I used to live in Centreville, and I drove about about 30 - 45 minutes to get to the metro so I could take the train another 30 minutes into town for work.  That same drive is about 10 - 15 minutes without traffic.  I know where you're coming from, but I also know there's a very simple solution.  Move.  Pay a couple hundred dollars more in rent or mortgage, and get your ass out of your car and get your life back. It's worth every penny.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in Arlington and work downtown .
It generally takes me 20 minutes to get to work ; 10 minutes walking and 10 minutes on the metro .
I go shopping on my way home from work , it 's about 1 1/2 minutes out of my way .
I can get to all kinds of events and activities on any given night in 30 minutes .
Just about the only time I use my car is on the weekends .
I think that DC is great area to live in.I used to live in Centreville , and I drove about about 30 - 45 minutes to get to the metro so I could take the train another 30 minutes into town for work .
That same drive is about 10 - 15 minutes without traffic .
I know where you 're coming from , but I also know there 's a very simple solution .
Move. Pay a couple hundred dollars more in rent or mortgage , and get your ass out of your car and get your life back .
It 's worth every penny .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in Arlington and work downtown.
It generally takes me 20 minutes to get to work; 10 minutes walking and 10 minutes on the metro.
I go shopping on my way home from work, it's about 1 1/2 minutes out of my way.
I can get to all kinds of events and activities on any given night in 30 minutes.
Just about the only time I use my car is on the weekends.
I think that DC is great area to live in.I used to live in Centreville, and I drove about about 30 - 45 minutes to get to the metro so I could take the train another 30 minutes into town for work.
That same drive is about 10 - 15 minutes without traffic.
I know where you're coming from, but I also know there's a very simple solution.
Move.  Pay a couple hundred dollars more in rent or mortgage, and get your ass out of your car and get your life back.
It's worth every penny.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440785</id>
	<title>Nearly anywhere in the Carolinas</title>
	<author>Sandbags</author>
	<datestamp>1245779160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With the exception of Columbia, Greenville, and if you like Banks, Charlotte.  The rest of the 2 states have virtually no IT opportunities unless you like being a 24/7 on-call IT admin for small firms with no money, no technological understanding, and will be satified with $35K anually...  Short of about 50 companies, if you've been rejected by them, or rejected them, you really have no chances...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With the exception of Columbia , Greenville , and if you like Banks , Charlotte .
The rest of the 2 states have virtually no IT opportunities unless you like being a 24/7 on-call IT admin for small firms with no money , no technological understanding , and will be satified with $ 35K anually... Short of about 50 companies , if you 've been rejected by them , or rejected them , you really have no chances.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With the exception of Columbia, Greenville, and if you like Banks, Charlotte.
The rest of the 2 states have virtually no IT opportunities unless you like being a 24/7 on-call IT admin for small firms with no money, no technological understanding, and will be satified with $35K anually...  Short of about 50 companies, if you've been rejected by them, or rejected them, you really have no chances...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440533</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245778380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Tax and spend" is an often flung criticism by republican voters, but what do you describe what Raygun, Bush the 1st and Bush the second all did.  Atleast "Tax and Spend" democrats try to balance their budget (Obama aside, who has no chance of both keeping the economy from going straight to hell AND balancing the budget in the short term).    Republicans just run around with daddy's (gov) credit card and line the pockets of their buddies with it.</p><p>"Tax and Spend" is better than "Drunken Sailor with a No-limit Credit Card"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Tax and spend " is an often flung criticism by republican voters , but what do you describe what Raygun , Bush the 1st and Bush the second all did .
Atleast " Tax and Spend " democrats try to balance their budget ( Obama aside , who has no chance of both keeping the economy from going straight to hell AND balancing the budget in the short term ) .
Republicans just run around with daddy 's ( gov ) credit card and line the pockets of their buddies with it .
" Tax and Spend " is better than " Drunken Sailor with a No-limit Credit Card "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Tax and spend" is an often flung criticism by republican voters, but what do you describe what Raygun, Bush the 1st and Bush the second all did.
Atleast "Tax and Spend" democrats try to balance their budget (Obama aside, who has no chance of both keeping the economy from going straight to hell AND balancing the budget in the short term).
Republicans just run around with daddy's (gov) credit card and line the pockets of their buddies with it.
"Tax and Spend" is better than "Drunken Sailor with a No-limit Credit Card"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443035</id>
	<title>Re:Upstate New York Isn't That Bad...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245786960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been there, so I'll continue to bash you hillbillies from "the sticks" (read: anything north of Yonkers) all I want.  At least until I buy a vacation home up there or retire to Florida.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been there , so I 'll continue to bash you hillbillies from " the sticks " ( read : anything north of Yonkers ) all I want .
At least until I buy a vacation home up there or retire to Florida .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been there, so I'll continue to bash you hillbillies from "the sticks" (read: anything north of Yonkers) all I want.
At least until I buy a vacation home up there or retire to Florida.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442383</id>
	<title>NWA</title>
	<author>OverlordQ</author>
	<datestamp>1245784740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Living there, I can say Northwest Arkansas is not that bad. And there's a difference between a funnel cloud and a tornado, but getting back on topic, besides Walmart there's a few other large companies based here that hire a decent number of IT people such as Tyson and JB Hunt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Living there , I can say Northwest Arkansas is not that bad .
And there 's a difference between a funnel cloud and a tornado , but getting back on topic , besides Walmart there 's a few other large companies based here that hire a decent number of IT people such as Tyson and JB Hunt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Living there, I can say Northwest Arkansas is not that bad.
And there's a difference between a funnel cloud and a tornado, but getting back on topic, besides Walmart there's a few other large companies based here that hire a decent number of IT people such as Tyson and JB Hunt.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440701</id>
	<title>Upstate New York Isn't That Bad...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245778920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is all you need to know, math guys: Syracuse holds the title for the U.S. city (pop: 50,000+) with the highest average annual snowfall (115 inches), besting even Anchorage, Alaska (114 inches). It also has a bit of a problem with Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) due to all that snow and not a lot of sunshine. It's called the Salt City: A good thing, since there's all that snow and ice on the roads.

 <br> <br>
Available IT jobs in Syracuse (as posted on June 18 on Dice.com): 49</p></div><p>
I'm tired of seeing people endlessly trash Upstate because of what they read about the winter.  What the summary doesn't tell you about the 115 inches of snow is that you rarely have more than 10 inches on the ground at a time; the weather trends for this area lately have seen snow coming primarily on the leading edge of <b>warm fronts</b> in the winter.  The result of this is of course you'll shovel your driveway on Monday and then put on sunglasses and a very light coat by Wednesday.  In reality every winter in Upstate New York has been near-record warmth for the past several years, and after the short winter season (only about 3 months in reality) the rest of the year is temperate.  <br> <br>
That said, the economy of Upstate New York does leave something to be desired; but that can be said for many other parts of the country as well.<br> <br>
But I might be brought to disembowel the next person who <i>reads</i> about Upstate New York and then trashes it over weather that they have not experienced for themselves.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is all you need to know , math guys : Syracuse holds the title for the U.S. city ( pop : 50,000 + ) with the highest average annual snowfall ( 115 inches ) , besting even Anchorage , Alaska ( 114 inches ) .
It also has a bit of a problem with Seasonal Affective Disorder ( SAD ) due to all that snow and not a lot of sunshine .
It 's called the Salt City : A good thing , since there 's all that snow and ice on the roads .
Available IT jobs in Syracuse ( as posted on June 18 on Dice.com ) : 49 I 'm tired of seeing people endlessly trash Upstate because of what they read about the winter .
What the summary does n't tell you about the 115 inches of snow is that you rarely have more than 10 inches on the ground at a time ; the weather trends for this area lately have seen snow coming primarily on the leading edge of warm fronts in the winter .
The result of this is of course you 'll shovel your driveway on Monday and then put on sunglasses and a very light coat by Wednesday .
In reality every winter in Upstate New York has been near-record warmth for the past several years , and after the short winter season ( only about 3 months in reality ) the rest of the year is temperate .
That said , the economy of Upstate New York does leave something to be desired ; but that can be said for many other parts of the country as well .
But I might be brought to disembowel the next person who reads about Upstate New York and then trashes it over weather that they have not experienced for themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is all you need to know, math guys: Syracuse holds the title for the U.S. city (pop: 50,000+) with the highest average annual snowfall (115 inches), besting even Anchorage, Alaska (114 inches).
It also has a bit of a problem with Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) due to all that snow and not a lot of sunshine.
It's called the Salt City: A good thing, since there's all that snow and ice on the roads.
Available IT jobs in Syracuse (as posted on June 18 on Dice.com): 49
I'm tired of seeing people endlessly trash Upstate because of what they read about the winter.
What the summary doesn't tell you about the 115 inches of snow is that you rarely have more than 10 inches on the ground at a time; the weather trends for this area lately have seen snow coming primarily on the leading edge of warm fronts in the winter.
The result of this is of course you'll shovel your driveway on Monday and then put on sunglasses and a very light coat by Wednesday.
In reality every winter in Upstate New York has been near-record warmth for the past several years, and after the short winter season (only about 3 months in reality) the rest of the year is temperate.
That said, the economy of Upstate New York does leave something to be desired; but that can be said for many other parts of the country as well.
But I might be brought to disembowel the next person who reads about Upstate New York and then trashes it over weather that they have not experienced for themselves.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441933</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>vertinox</author>
	<datestamp>1245783180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I've never seen one proper city that didn't feel like a very suffocating place, full of busy little bees who have no idea what it is to take the time to smell the roses. I could never live in one.</i></p><p>If you have a car: Yes</p><p>If you walk and take public transportation: No</p><p>I used to be stressed all the time living in a city with over 5 million people simply because of the horrible traffic everywhere all the time.</p><p>So, one day I decide to get rid of my car. I got a job closer to home and now I take the bus everywhere and I feel less stressed and have more money.</p><p>I still visit friends (though I have to plan accordingly) and I can always rent a truck if I need to move anything big.</p><p>Overall city life ain't bad when you don't have to drive in it.</p><p>Though, word of warning... Your city needs to be made for public transportation. I don't think Atlanta or LA is going to be friendly for that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've never seen one proper city that did n't feel like a very suffocating place , full of busy little bees who have no idea what it is to take the time to smell the roses .
I could never live in one.If you have a car : YesIf you walk and take public transportation : NoI used to be stressed all the time living in a city with over 5 million people simply because of the horrible traffic everywhere all the time.So , one day I decide to get rid of my car .
I got a job closer to home and now I take the bus everywhere and I feel less stressed and have more money.I still visit friends ( though I have to plan accordingly ) and I can always rent a truck if I need to move anything big.Overall city life ai n't bad when you do n't have to drive in it.Though , word of warning... Your city needs to be made for public transportation .
I do n't think Atlanta or LA is going to be friendly for that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've never seen one proper city that didn't feel like a very suffocating place, full of busy little bees who have no idea what it is to take the time to smell the roses.
I could never live in one.If you have a car: YesIf you walk and take public transportation: NoI used to be stressed all the time living in a city with over 5 million people simply because of the horrible traffic everywhere all the time.So, one day I decide to get rid of my car.
I got a job closer to home and now I take the bus everywhere and I feel less stressed and have more money.I still visit friends (though I have to plan accordingly) and I can always rent a truck if I need to move anything big.Overall city life ain't bad when you don't have to drive in it.Though, word of warning... Your city needs to be made for public transportation.
I don't think Atlanta or LA is going to be friendly for that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440557</id>
	<title>Re:No way</title>
	<author>MBCook</author>
	<datestamp>1245778440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget no taxes and a yearly check from the Permanent Fund.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget no taxes and a yearly check from the Permanent Fund .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget no taxes and a yearly check from the Permanent Fund.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440241</id>
	<title>Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245777240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd gladly take a position in Alaska.  Wide open land with relatively few people.  No overbearing State government that can't balance the budget, not much of an immigration problem up there either.  Thanks to the oil revenues residents get checks from the State.  About the only thing I would miss is being able to take the t-tops off on my Z28 even occasionally in the winter and pretty much all summer long.</p><p>If I had to name a State as worst State it would be California.  Land of tax and spend with no fiscal restraint, holder of first county to declare bankruptcy and likely first State to go bankrupt.  Of course the single biggest reason to avoid California for me is that about 3/4 of my firearms are unconstitutionally deemed illegal by the State.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd gladly take a position in Alaska .
Wide open land with relatively few people .
No overbearing State government that ca n't balance the budget , not much of an immigration problem up there either .
Thanks to the oil revenues residents get checks from the State .
About the only thing I would miss is being able to take the t-tops off on my Z28 even occasionally in the winter and pretty much all summer long.If I had to name a State as worst State it would be California .
Land of tax and spend with no fiscal restraint , holder of first county to declare bankruptcy and likely first State to go bankrupt .
Of course the single biggest reason to avoid California for me is that about 3/4 of my firearms are unconstitutionally deemed illegal by the State .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd gladly take a position in Alaska.
Wide open land with relatively few people.
No overbearing State government that can't balance the budget, not much of an immigration problem up there either.
Thanks to the oil revenues residents get checks from the State.
About the only thing I would miss is being able to take the t-tops off on my Z28 even occasionally in the winter and pretty much all summer long.If I had to name a State as worst State it would be California.
Land of tax and spend with no fiscal restraint, holder of first county to declare bankruptcy and likely first State to go bankrupt.
Of course the single biggest reason to avoid California for me is that about 3/4 of my firearms are unconstitutionally deemed illegal by the State.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440807</id>
	<title>Re:The complete list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245779280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Syracuse is a great place to live and work. Violent crime is very low, great houses are cheap, and there's a ton of both work and money if you're willing to start your own business. <br> <br>

Whine all you like, but how many of you can get up at 9am, make some breakfast, have some coffee, play with the dog, work until 4pm, then do whatever you feel like until midnight, all with no debt, no worries and vacations whever you want? Also, FWIW, the snow in Syracuse isn't all that bad while SCUBA diving in the Caribbean.<br> <br>

<strong>Jobs</strong> suck everywhere. <strong>Owning your own business</strong> is the greatest thing since the invention of fun, food and sex.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Syracuse is a great place to live and work .
Violent crime is very low , great houses are cheap , and there 's a ton of both work and money if you 're willing to start your own business .
Whine all you like , but how many of you can get up at 9am , make some breakfast , have some coffee , play with the dog , work until 4pm , then do whatever you feel like until midnight , all with no debt , no worries and vacations whever you want ?
Also , FWIW , the snow in Syracuse is n't all that bad while SCUBA diving in the Caribbean .
Jobs suck everywhere .
Owning your own business is the greatest thing since the invention of fun , food and sex .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Syracuse is a great place to live and work.
Violent crime is very low, great houses are cheap, and there's a ton of both work and money if you're willing to start your own business.
Whine all you like, but how many of you can get up at 9am, make some breakfast, have some coffee, play with the dog, work until 4pm, then do whatever you feel like until midnight, all with no debt, no worries and vacations whever you want?
Also, FWIW, the snow in Syracuse isn't all that bad while SCUBA diving in the Caribbean.
Jobs suck everywhere.
Owning your own business is the greatest thing since the invention of fun, food and sex.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440887</id>
	<title>Re:The complete list</title>
	<author>taxman\_10m</author>
	<datestamp>1245779640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I didn't understand that either.  But one thing I'd mention is that Red Sox games make public transportation (green line) grind to a halt.  Can't recall that being much of a problem though with our other sports franchises.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't understand that either .
But one thing I 'd mention is that Red Sox games make public transportation ( green line ) grind to a halt .
Ca n't recall that being much of a problem though with our other sports franchises .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't understand that either.
But one thing I'd mention is that Red Sox games make public transportation (green line) grind to a halt.
Can't recall that being much of a problem though with our other sports franchises.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28451049</id>
	<title>Chicago sucks</title>
	<author>Money for Nothin'</author>
	<datestamp>1245848940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lived and worked here all my life...  It sucks.</p><p>The weather sucks, the traffic sucks (especially when the weather particularly sucks), the business culture is truly and utterly insane (particularly the financial and trading industries that are so strong here), sales taxes are higher than anywhere in the nation (and there are taxes specifically on sodas - including diet sodas - and bottled water, and you need a license to do something as simple as wheel-around a hot-dog cart), apartments and owned housing is expensive almost anywhere within 45 min. of downtown (and where the exceptions exist, you wouldn't want to live there if you're white and/or earning a middle-class-or-higher income).  Oh, and you can't own handguns (in abject spite of the <i>Heller</i> decision) and long-guns must be registered with the city and are subject to a variety of asinine rules that make a supposed "assault weapon" out of even many kinds of shotguns and rifles.</p><p>And if you think our state governor is corrupt, try Chicago's Mayor Daley - he's even worse, but better at hiding his crimes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lived and worked here all my life... It sucks.The weather sucks , the traffic sucks ( especially when the weather particularly sucks ) , the business culture is truly and utterly insane ( particularly the financial and trading industries that are so strong here ) , sales taxes are higher than anywhere in the nation ( and there are taxes specifically on sodas - including diet sodas - and bottled water , and you need a license to do something as simple as wheel-around a hot-dog cart ) , apartments and owned housing is expensive almost anywhere within 45 min .
of downtown ( and where the exceptions exist , you would n't want to live there if you 're white and/or earning a middle-class-or-higher income ) .
Oh , and you ca n't own handguns ( in abject spite of the Heller decision ) and long-guns must be registered with the city and are subject to a variety of asinine rules that make a supposed " assault weapon " out of even many kinds of shotguns and rifles.And if you think our state governor is corrupt , try Chicago 's Mayor Daley - he 's even worse , but better at hiding his crimes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lived and worked here all my life...  It sucks.The weather sucks, the traffic sucks (especially when the weather particularly sucks), the business culture is truly and utterly insane (particularly the financial and trading industries that are so strong here), sales taxes are higher than anywhere in the nation (and there are taxes specifically on sodas - including diet sodas - and bottled water, and you need a license to do something as simple as wheel-around a hot-dog cart), apartments and owned housing is expensive almost anywhere within 45 min.
of downtown (and where the exceptions exist, you wouldn't want to live there if you're white and/or earning a middle-class-or-higher income).
Oh, and you can't own handguns (in abject spite of the Heller decision) and long-guns must be registered with the city and are subject to a variety of asinine rules that make a supposed "assault weapon" out of even many kinds of shotguns and rifles.And if you think our state governor is corrupt, try Chicago's Mayor Daley - he's even worse, but better at hiding his crimes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28446459</id>
	<title>Re:Big market bias</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245756420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anon Coward here.  LA like everywhere else has +/-</p><p>Good:<br>High base salary<br>Stable IT job environment<br>Lots of media related work(E.G. web crafting, DRM development, etc)<br>Every culture in the world is here.<br>Lots of beaches, learn to surf.</p><p>Bad:<br>Traffic<br>High cost of living<br>Unreasonable commutes, due to decent housing not being located near job centers<br>unreliable mass transit<br>Forget seeing nature, the beaches and parks have are packed during the day<br>High tax burden (E.G. City, County, State, Fed, Sales, Vehicle, you name it tax)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anon Coward here .
LA like everywhere else has + /-Good : High base salaryStable IT job environmentLots of media related work ( E.G .
web crafting , DRM development , etc ) Every culture in the world is here.Lots of beaches , learn to surf.Bad : TrafficHigh cost of livingUnreasonable commutes , due to decent housing not being located near job centersunreliable mass transitForget seeing nature , the beaches and parks have are packed during the dayHigh tax burden ( E.G .
City , County , State , Fed , Sales , Vehicle , you name it tax )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anon Coward here.
LA like everywhere else has +/-Good:High base salaryStable IT job environmentLots of media related work(E.G.
web crafting, DRM development, etc)Every culture in the world is here.Lots of beaches, learn to surf.Bad:TrafficHigh cost of livingUnreasonable commutes, due to decent housing not being located near job centersunreliable mass transitForget seeing nature, the beaches and parks have are packed during the dayHigh tax burden (E.G.
City, County, State, Fed, Sales, Vehicle, you name it tax)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441427</id>
	<title>Re:Southern Utah....</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1245781620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Um, doubtfull a framer is make 30 an hour, much less an illegal.</p><p>If it is true(again doubtful) then the only reason an employeers would take the risk is because no legal will take the job.</p><p>As a former construction laborer, and current IT professional, I suspect you are full of crap.</p><p>As far as a degree in CS is concerned, maybe you should go to where the work is?<br>It would be like me complaining in 1960 that I can't get a good auto manufacturing job in Provo.</p><p>Well, no shit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Um , doubtfull a framer is make 30 an hour , much less an illegal.If it is true ( again doubtful ) then the only reason an employeers would take the risk is because no legal will take the job.As a former construction laborer , and current IT professional , I suspect you are full of crap.As far as a degree in CS is concerned , maybe you should go to where the work is ? It would be like me complaining in 1960 that I ca n't get a good auto manufacturing job in Provo.Well , no shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um, doubtfull a framer is make 30 an hour, much less an illegal.If it is true(again doubtful) then the only reason an employeers would take the risk is because no legal will take the job.As a former construction laborer, and current IT professional, I suspect you are full of crap.As far as a degree in CS is concerned, maybe you should go to where the work is?It would be like me complaining in 1960 that I can't get a good auto manufacturing job in Provo.Well, no shit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444981</id>
	<title>Re:Big market bias</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245750420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So people from SoCal, how's LA to work IT in, what with the crappy traffic and screwy government?</p></div><p>Horrible.  I still work with a lot of people from LA, and they are routinely absent from the conference call / in the car.  It's just accepted.  Of course if you work downtown you are not going to want to live anywhere near there, so have fun commuting.  Now the places that are nice and easy to commute from command insane real estate prices.  Even at half off their boom highs these places are not affordable for your average IT worker.  Maybe if you have a wife/husband and he/she works in IT too.  So again have fun commuting, now from Riverside where you can afford to live.</p><p>After all the income taxes, roughly a third of your paycheck is gone, give or take based on programmer's salaries, which are pretty good, although not quite as good as the Bay.  Sales tax, car tax, electric tax... no one knows how many taxes.  For this you earn the exact same public services as the rest of the country (save for the public colleges and Universities which are much better than average -- of course you'll need that resident bump to get in because you'll be dumber than dirt having attended the public schools, and it's not actually that cheap once you do).  New homeowners, unlike aging hippies, will also have to fight high property taxes.  Whatever you heard about low property taxes only applies to middle aged people and above.  Should you need to rent, it is also expensive compared to middle America, but again not as high as the Bay.</p><p>Bottom line is SoCal is great for 4 kinds of people: those who really, really like the outdoors (surfers, bikers, etc.), old people, wealthy people, and recent immigrants.  The first and the fourth describe a fair bit of IT people, and that's who you'll see.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So people from SoCal , how 's LA to work IT in , what with the crappy traffic and screwy government ? Horrible .
I still work with a lot of people from LA , and they are routinely absent from the conference call / in the car .
It 's just accepted .
Of course if you work downtown you are not going to want to live anywhere near there , so have fun commuting .
Now the places that are nice and easy to commute from command insane real estate prices .
Even at half off their boom highs these places are not affordable for your average IT worker .
Maybe if you have a wife/husband and he/she works in IT too .
So again have fun commuting , now from Riverside where you can afford to live.After all the income taxes , roughly a third of your paycheck is gone , give or take based on programmer 's salaries , which are pretty good , although not quite as good as the Bay .
Sales tax , car tax , electric tax... no one knows how many taxes .
For this you earn the exact same public services as the rest of the country ( save for the public colleges and Universities which are much better than average -- of course you 'll need that resident bump to get in because you 'll be dumber than dirt having attended the public schools , and it 's not actually that cheap once you do ) .
New homeowners , unlike aging hippies , will also have to fight high property taxes .
Whatever you heard about low property taxes only applies to middle aged people and above .
Should you need to rent , it is also expensive compared to middle America , but again not as high as the Bay.Bottom line is SoCal is great for 4 kinds of people : those who really , really like the outdoors ( surfers , bikers , etc .
) , old people , wealthy people , and recent immigrants .
The first and the fourth describe a fair bit of IT people , and that 's who you 'll see .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So people from SoCal, how's LA to work IT in, what with the crappy traffic and screwy government?Horrible.
I still work with a lot of people from LA, and they are routinely absent from the conference call / in the car.
It's just accepted.
Of course if you work downtown you are not going to want to live anywhere near there, so have fun commuting.
Now the places that are nice and easy to commute from command insane real estate prices.
Even at half off their boom highs these places are not affordable for your average IT worker.
Maybe if you have a wife/husband and he/she works in IT too.
So again have fun commuting, now from Riverside where you can afford to live.After all the income taxes, roughly a third of your paycheck is gone, give or take based on programmer's salaries, which are pretty good, although not quite as good as the Bay.
Sales tax, car tax, electric tax... no one knows how many taxes.
For this you earn the exact same public services as the rest of the country (save for the public colleges and Universities which are much better than average -- of course you'll need that resident bump to get in because you'll be dumber than dirt having attended the public schools, and it's not actually that cheap once you do).
New homeowners, unlike aging hippies, will also have to fight high property taxes.
Whatever you heard about low property taxes only applies to middle aged people and above.
Should you need to rent, it is also expensive compared to middle America, but again not as high as the Bay.Bottom line is SoCal is great for 4 kinds of people: those who really, really like the outdoors (surfers, bikers, etc.
), old people, wealthy people, and recent immigrants.
The first and the fourth describe a fair bit of IT people, and that's who you'll see.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441345</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245781380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Without the state oil revenues, Alaska would be having as much trouble as any other state.</p><p>But, if you want to get away from hispanics and blacks with your guns and your bible, Alaska is probably your best bet. There are still some surviving native American tribes, but I'm sure they're well away from where the "real" Americans live. Try to take as many like minded people as you can with you, and be sure to tell Jesus I said hello when he shows up for the rapture.</p><p>And don't worry. We won't let the Russians nuke Wasilla from orbit. Sure we won't...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Without the state oil revenues , Alaska would be having as much trouble as any other state.But , if you want to get away from hispanics and blacks with your guns and your bible , Alaska is probably your best bet .
There are still some surviving native American tribes , but I 'm sure they 're well away from where the " real " Americans live .
Try to take as many like minded people as you can with you , and be sure to tell Jesus I said hello when he shows up for the rapture.And do n't worry .
We wo n't let the Russians nuke Wasilla from orbit .
Sure we wo n't.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Without the state oil revenues, Alaska would be having as much trouble as any other state.But, if you want to get away from hispanics and blacks with your guns and your bible, Alaska is probably your best bet.
There are still some surviving native American tribes, but I'm sure they're well away from where the "real" Americans live.
Try to take as many like minded people as you can with you, and be sure to tell Jesus I said hello when he shows up for the rapture.And don't worry.
We won't let the Russians nuke Wasilla from orbit.
Sure we won't...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28451205</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>wjousts</author>
	<datestamp>1245850860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Geeze, my comment was no more flamebait that the one it replied to. Some people have no sense of irony.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Geeze , my comment was no more flamebait that the one it replied to .
Some people have no sense of irony .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Geeze, my comment was no more flamebait that the one it replied to.
Some people have no sense of irony.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440689</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443159</id>
	<title>Re:Upstate New York Isn't That Bad...</title>
	<author>speroni</author>
	<datestamp>1245787380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I went to school up in Potsdam, just down the road from Messina.</p><p>If you stick to your definition of upstate, then yes upstate is a horrible place to find IT work. And every winter there will be a month where it doesn't get above 0 F. (Not to be confused with 0 C mind you.)</p><p>But hey, the skiing was good.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I went to school up in Potsdam , just down the road from Messina.If you stick to your definition of upstate , then yes upstate is a horrible place to find IT work .
And every winter there will be a month where it does n't get above 0 F. ( Not to be confused with 0 C mind you .
) But hey , the skiing was good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I went to school up in Potsdam, just down the road from Messina.If you stick to your definition of upstate, then yes upstate is a horrible place to find IT work.
And every winter there will be a month where it doesn't get above 0 F. (Not to be confused with 0 C mind you.
)But hey, the skiing was good.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441133</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440205</id>
	<title>Southern Utah....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245777120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Where a BS in CS or CIT makes 9 bucks an hour and an illegal migrant housing framer makes 30.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where a BS in CS or CIT makes 9 bucks an hour and an illegal migrant housing framer makes 30 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where a BS in CS or CIT makes 9 bucks an hour and an illegal migrant housing framer makes 30.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440667</id>
	<title>Silicon Valley too (sort of)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245778800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>San Fran is close enough to San Jose.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>San Fran is close enough to San Jose .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>San Fran is close enough to San Jose.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440315</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442823</id>
	<title>Boston: worst and best at same time?</title>
	<author>Kostya</author>
	<datestamp>1245786240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They sarcastically slam Boston, but then list it as one of the 10 cities where "all the IT jobs are".  So make up your mind already.</p><p>And as someone living in Boston, screw you and your list<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They sarcastically slam Boston , but then list it as one of the 10 cities where " all the IT jobs are " .
So make up your mind already.And as someone living in Boston , screw you and your list : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They sarcastically slam Boston, but then list it as one of the 10 cities where "all the IT jobs are".
So make up your mind already.And as someone living in Boston, screw you and your list :-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441263</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>Mydnight</author>
	<datestamp>1245781020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Up here in Canada Regina, SK isn't a bad place to work -- Saskatchewan is pretty much the only place in North America that still has a growing economy, and Regina has more square feet of park/person than anywhere else in the country.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Up here in Canada Regina , SK is n't a bad place to work -- Saskatchewan is pretty much the only place in North America that still has a growing economy , and Regina has more square feet of park/person than anywhere else in the country .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Up here in Canada Regina, SK isn't a bad place to work -- Saskatchewan is pretty much the only place in North America that still has a growing economy, and Regina has more square feet of park/person than anywhere else in the country.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440143</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441369</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245781380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh boy, a list! Nothing's better to drum up page views and elicit reader comments like a list!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh boy , a list !
Nothing 's better to drum up page views and elicit reader comments like a list !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh boy, a list!
Nothing's better to drum up page views and elicit reader comments like a list!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440109</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442437</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>Darth\_brooks</author>
	<datestamp>1245784800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I will go corrupt official toe to toe with you. You can have your Tony Soprano wannabes, and I'll put the city of Detroit against your whole exit ramp infested state! Hell, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica\_Conyers" title="wikipedia.org">Monica Conyers</a> [wikipedia.org] has more corruption in her little finger than any five state or local officials you can find.</p><p>The gauntlet has been thrown down!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I will go corrupt official toe to toe with you .
You can have your Tony Soprano wannabes , and I 'll put the city of Detroit against your whole exit ramp infested state !
Hell , Monica Conyers [ wikipedia.org ] has more corruption in her little finger than any five state or local officials you can find.The gauntlet has been thrown down !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I will go corrupt official toe to toe with you.
You can have your Tony Soprano wannabes, and I'll put the city of Detroit against your whole exit ramp infested state!
Hell, Monica Conyers [wikipedia.org] has more corruption in her little finger than any five state or local officials you can find.The gauntlet has been thrown down!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441051</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443399</id>
	<title>Syracuse isn't bad...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245788220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've lived all over Central New York, from Herkimer to Morrisville and now Pulaski.  Syracuse is near the middle of this big triangle.  I've seen it 40 degrees below zero (-75F with windchill) and I've seen more than 4 feet of snow dumped overnight.  I've seen the high temperature for the entire month of February at -20F.  But these extremes only happen once every few decades.  In general, the temperature hovers in the 20's and you get light snow once or twice a week.  Snowfall of more than 6 inches rarely happens more than once or twice a month and the ground rarely has more than a foot or two of snow on it for a week or more.</p><p>However, as a recent IT graduate trying to find a job in Syracuse or the surrounding area, I can tell you that there aren't many.  Most of the openings are for senior or manager level.  A lot of businesses also seek employees with experience with proprietary systems.  Personally, I love living in this climate and I dread the summer (75 degrees is too hot for me).  Upstate is a great place to live if you can get a decent job.  $50,000 a year can go a long way when cheeseburgers are a buck and you can buy corn on the side of the road for 10 cents and ear.  The only reason I'm looking to get out of here is because the government (which is almost entirely controlled by NYC) is crushing anything and everything they can.  Hunting is great... but so regulated that deer run rampant and cause loads of automobile and property damage.  Fishing is great... except that now you need to pay exorbitant amounts for fishing licenses.  Snowmobiling is amazing... except now they have roadblocks, check points and speed limits.  The Adirondack Park is a great place to visit at almost 10,000 square miles (compare to 3,472 sq. miles for Yellowstone or 1,189 sq. miles for Yosemite).</p><p>In short, Syracuse is a great place if you have the skills and don't mind big, overbearing government.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've lived all over Central New York , from Herkimer to Morrisville and now Pulaski .
Syracuse is near the middle of this big triangle .
I 've seen it 40 degrees below zero ( -75F with windchill ) and I 've seen more than 4 feet of snow dumped overnight .
I 've seen the high temperature for the entire month of February at -20F .
But these extremes only happen once every few decades .
In general , the temperature hovers in the 20 's and you get light snow once or twice a week .
Snowfall of more than 6 inches rarely happens more than once or twice a month and the ground rarely has more than a foot or two of snow on it for a week or more.However , as a recent IT graduate trying to find a job in Syracuse or the surrounding area , I can tell you that there are n't many .
Most of the openings are for senior or manager level .
A lot of businesses also seek employees with experience with proprietary systems .
Personally , I love living in this climate and I dread the summer ( 75 degrees is too hot for me ) .
Upstate is a great place to live if you can get a decent job .
$ 50,000 a year can go a long way when cheeseburgers are a buck and you can buy corn on the side of the road for 10 cents and ear .
The only reason I 'm looking to get out of here is because the government ( which is almost entirely controlled by NYC ) is crushing anything and everything they can .
Hunting is great... but so regulated that deer run rampant and cause loads of automobile and property damage .
Fishing is great... except that now you need to pay exorbitant amounts for fishing licenses .
Snowmobiling is amazing... except now they have roadblocks , check points and speed limits .
The Adirondack Park is a great place to visit at almost 10,000 square miles ( compare to 3,472 sq .
miles for Yellowstone or 1,189 sq .
miles for Yosemite ) .In short , Syracuse is a great place if you have the skills and do n't mind big , overbearing government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've lived all over Central New York, from Herkimer to Morrisville and now Pulaski.
Syracuse is near the middle of this big triangle.
I've seen it 40 degrees below zero (-75F with windchill) and I've seen more than 4 feet of snow dumped overnight.
I've seen the high temperature for the entire month of February at -20F.
But these extremes only happen once every few decades.
In general, the temperature hovers in the 20's and you get light snow once or twice a week.
Snowfall of more than 6 inches rarely happens more than once or twice a month and the ground rarely has more than a foot or two of snow on it for a week or more.However, as a recent IT graduate trying to find a job in Syracuse or the surrounding area, I can tell you that there aren't many.
Most of the openings are for senior or manager level.
A lot of businesses also seek employees with experience with proprietary systems.
Personally, I love living in this climate and I dread the summer (75 degrees is too hot for me).
Upstate is a great place to live if you can get a decent job.
$50,000 a year can go a long way when cheeseburgers are a buck and you can buy corn on the side of the road for 10 cents and ear.
The only reason I'm looking to get out of here is because the government (which is almost entirely controlled by NYC) is crushing anything and everything they can.
Hunting is great... but so regulated that deer run rampant and cause loads of automobile and property damage.
Fishing is great... except that now you need to pay exorbitant amounts for fishing licenses.
Snowmobiling is amazing... except now they have roadblocks, check points and speed limits.
The Adirondack Park is a great place to visit at almost 10,000 square miles (compare to 3,472 sq.
miles for Yellowstone or 1,189 sq.
miles for Yosemite).In short, Syracuse is a great place if you have the skills and don't mind big, overbearing government.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28447199</id>
	<title>Re:Orlando</title>
	<author>kallisti777</author>
	<datestamp>1245760260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thank you from an Orlando native. You said it better than I would have anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank you from an Orlando native .
You said it better than I would have anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank you from an Orlando native.
You said it better than I would have anyway.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441199</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441273</id>
	<title>Re:Upstate New York Isn't That Bad...</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1245781020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have been to upstate New York in winter. It wasn't as bad as I thought but it was cold but I was born in South Florida. The pictures I have seen of it in summer look very pretty. I think the problem with Update New York is that it isn't New York City and that a lot of companies that used to be very big employers in the area have gotten a lot smaller.<br>Kodak and Xerox come to mind.</p><p>Hey I wouldn't mind going there in summer just to look around. Probably a great place for a motorcycle trip.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have been to upstate New York in winter .
It was n't as bad as I thought but it was cold but I was born in South Florida .
The pictures I have seen of it in summer look very pretty .
I think the problem with Update New York is that it is n't New York City and that a lot of companies that used to be very big employers in the area have gotten a lot smaller.Kodak and Xerox come to mind.Hey I would n't mind going there in summer just to look around .
Probably a great place for a motorcycle trip .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have been to upstate New York in winter.
It wasn't as bad as I thought but it was cold but I was born in South Florida.
The pictures I have seen of it in summer look very pretty.
I think the problem with Update New York is that it isn't New York City and that a lot of companies that used to be very big employers in the area have gotten a lot smaller.Kodak and Xerox come to mind.Hey I wouldn't mind going there in summer just to look around.
Probably a great place for a motorcycle trip.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440701</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440605</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245778620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nothing, but it would have required time and effort for CIO.com to produce an informative article.   Instead it was a lot easier to slap together a list of down-on-their-luck cities, throw in a couple surprises for shock value, apologize in advance for it being "subjective", throw some ads on the pages, and publish.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nothing , but it would have required time and effort for CIO.com to produce an informative article .
Instead it was a lot easier to slap together a list of down-on-their-luck cities , throw in a couple surprises for shock value , apologize in advance for it being " subjective " , throw some ads on the pages , and publish .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nothing, but it would have required time and effort for CIO.com to produce an informative article.
Instead it was a lot easier to slap together a list of down-on-their-luck cities, throw in a couple surprises for shock value, apologize in advance for it being "subjective", throw some ads on the pages, and publish.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440307</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441127</id>
	<title>Doesn't Matter</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245780420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its going to get Bangalored anyway...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its going to get Bangalored anyway.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its going to get Bangalored anyway...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444799</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>Machtyn</author>
	<datestamp>1245749760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Louisville, KY is a great place to live.  Biggest little town around, or is it littlest big town around.  Either way, it feels like a small town, but has all the amenities and culture, great weather, decent cable provider that hasn't screwed me over like other providers I read about, etc.  IT jobs are not hard to come by, but the city does need a vast increase of industries other than food services and health services.  (more restaurants per capita than anywhere, has top notch hospitals and university.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Louisville , KY is a great place to live .
Biggest little town around , or is it littlest big town around .
Either way , it feels like a small town , but has all the amenities and culture , great weather , decent cable provider that has n't screwed me over like other providers I read about , etc .
IT jobs are not hard to come by , but the city does need a vast increase of industries other than food services and health services .
( more restaurants per capita than anywhere , has top notch hospitals and university .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Louisville, KY is a great place to live.
Biggest little town around, or is it littlest big town around.
Either way, it feels like a small town, but has all the amenities and culture, great weather, decent cable provider that hasn't screwed me over like other providers I read about, etc.
IT jobs are not hard to come by, but the city does need a vast increase of industries other than food services and health services.
(more restaurants per capita than anywhere, has top notch hospitals and university.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440143</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441525</id>
	<title>What's up with Boston.</title>
	<author>gurps\_npc</author>
	<datestamp>1245781920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They (CIO) show it as
<a href="http://www.cio.com/article/493282/Where\_the\_IT\_Jobs\_Are\_American\_Cities?page=3#slideshow" title="cio.com">one of the cities with the most IT jobs</a> [cio.com] and also as one of the <a href="http://www.cio.com/article/495555/The\_Worst\_U.S.\_Cities\_to\_Work\_in\_IT?page=5#slideshow" title="cio.com">worst</a> [cio.com].
<p>
Sure, it is not a direct contradiction, but do they like it or hate it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They ( CIO ) show it as one of the cities with the most IT jobs [ cio.com ] and also as one of the worst [ cio.com ] .
Sure , it is not a direct contradiction , but do they like it or hate it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They (CIO) show it as
one of the cities with the most IT jobs [cio.com] and also as one of the worst [cio.com].
Sure, it is not a direct contradiction, but do they like it or hate it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440903</id>
	<title>Re:No way</title>
	<author>moosesocks</author>
	<datestamp>1245779700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uhm, no.</p><p>Alaska has a ton of oil and very few people.  The Alaska Permanent Fund is an endowment created by the <b>state</b> government that sets aside approximately 25\% of the state's proceeds from mineral sales.</p><p>The dividends from this endowment are then divvied up and paid to the people living in the state.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uhm , no.Alaska has a ton of oil and very few people .
The Alaska Permanent Fund is an endowment created by the state government that sets aside approximately 25 \ % of the state 's proceeds from mineral sales.The dividends from this endowment are then divvied up and paid to the people living in the state .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uhm, no.Alaska has a ton of oil and very few people.
The Alaska Permanent Fund is an endowment created by the state government that sets aside approximately 25\% of the state's proceeds from mineral sales.The dividends from this endowment are then divvied up and paid to the people living in the state.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440891</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245779640000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>At what point did Reagan or Bush Sr. have a Congress friendly to spending cuts?  Answer, never.  The House of Representatives was majority Democrats all 12 years they were in office, and the Senate for 6.  Even then, it's very difficult for any democratic government to actually cut taxes, because of the people who would lose 'their' job, and complaining from the vocal constituents who feel entitled for the outrageous handouts the government gives.  We should have it be mandatory that all departments (other than Defense and Revenue) should have their existence be re-approved every 4 years, one year after the election.  Make the departments justify their existence for the funds spent.  (Maybe it's a bad idea, and we'll certainly never see it happen, but at least it would be a change, right?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At what point did Reagan or Bush Sr. have a Congress friendly to spending cuts ?
Answer , never .
The House of Representatives was majority Democrats all 12 years they were in office , and the Senate for 6 .
Even then , it 's very difficult for any democratic government to actually cut taxes , because of the people who would lose 'their ' job , and complaining from the vocal constituents who feel entitled for the outrageous handouts the government gives .
We should have it be mandatory that all departments ( other than Defense and Revenue ) should have their existence be re-approved every 4 years , one year after the election .
Make the departments justify their existence for the funds spent .
( Maybe it 's a bad idea , and we 'll certainly never see it happen , but at least it would be a change , right ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At what point did Reagan or Bush Sr. have a Congress friendly to spending cuts?
Answer, never.
The House of Representatives was majority Democrats all 12 years they were in office, and the Senate for 6.
Even then, it's very difficult for any democratic government to actually cut taxes, because of the people who would lose 'their' job, and complaining from the vocal constituents who feel entitled for the outrageous handouts the government gives.
We should have it be mandatory that all departments (other than Defense and Revenue) should have their existence be re-approved every 4 years, one year after the election.
Make the departments justify their existence for the funds spent.
(Maybe it's a bad idea, and we'll certainly never see it happen, but at least it would be a change, right?
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440753</id>
	<title>iJacking</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245779100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hey, wait, I thought it was H-Commerce?  It's iJacking now?  Or is this an East Coast versus West Coast Marketing Gang thing?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , wait , I thought it was H-Commerce ?
It 's iJacking now ?
Or is this an East Coast versus West Coast Marketing Gang thing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, wait, I thought it was H-Commerce?
It's iJacking now?
Or is this an East Coast versus West Coast Marketing Gang thing?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444543</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>theverylastperson</author>
	<datestamp>1245748920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>Slow down there city boy<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-p<br>
I get the gist of what you're saying and I totally agree with one small exception. You don't have to live in a large city to not be a commuter and there are plenty of fabulous tech jobs in small town america.<br>I live in a town of 2,600 about 30 minutes from the suburbs of Kansas City.<br>I live within walking distance from my office and within walking distance of the school, stores. Everything is right here. Sure we go to KC once or twice a month, but we sure aren't rushing around.<br>The point I wanted to make was that rural america does offer some great tech jobs.<br>Did I mention I'm 15 minutes from the lake? Life is good.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Slow down there city boy ; -p I get the gist of what you 're saying and I totally agree with one small exception .
You do n't have to live in a large city to not be a commuter and there are plenty of fabulous tech jobs in small town america.I live in a town of 2,600 about 30 minutes from the suburbs of Kansas City.I live within walking distance from my office and within walking distance of the school , stores .
Everything is right here .
Sure we go to KC once or twice a month , but we sure are n't rushing around.The point I wanted to make was that rural america does offer some great tech jobs.Did I mention I 'm 15 minutes from the lake ?
Life is good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slow down there city boy ;-p
I get the gist of what you're saying and I totally agree with one small exception.
You don't have to live in a large city to not be a commuter and there are plenty of fabulous tech jobs in small town america.I live in a town of 2,600 about 30 minutes from the suburbs of Kansas City.I live within walking distance from my office and within walking distance of the school, stores.
Everything is right here.
Sure we go to KC once or twice a month, but we sure aren't rushing around.The point I wanted to make was that rural america does offer some great tech jobs.Did I mention I'm 15 minutes from the lake?
Life is good.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440585</id>
	<title>Re:No way</title>
	<author>KermodeBear</author>
	<datestamp>1245778560000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree. I would love to move to Alaska. Any Alaskan companies looking for an experienced LAMP developer? I scan the job sites on a regular basis but haven't found any appropriate opportunities.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
I would love to move to Alaska .
Any Alaskan companies looking for an experienced LAMP developer ?
I scan the job sites on a regular basis but have n't found any appropriate opportunities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
I would love to move to Alaska.
Any Alaskan companies looking for an experienced LAMP developer?
I scan the job sites on a regular basis but haven't found any appropriate opportunities.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440859</id>
	<title>Best city for?</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1245779520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>Unless you are door to door trying to sell software IT is pretty much behind closed doors, in fact, a good percent of it dont require to be physically at the work offices. Now, if you talk about living in those cities (as in the time you are out of work or going to it, no matter doing what) or trying to get a new job (based on numbers of offers in Dice.com) the list worth something... but is not what the title say.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless you are door to door trying to sell software IT is pretty much behind closed doors , in fact , a good percent of it dont require to be physically at the work offices .
Now , if you talk about living in those cities ( as in the time you are out of work or going to it , no matter doing what ) or trying to get a new job ( based on numbers of offers in Dice.com ) the list worth something... but is not what the title say .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless you are door to door trying to sell software IT is pretty much behind closed doors, in fact, a good percent of it dont require to be physically at the work offices.
Now, if you talk about living in those cities (as in the time you are out of work or going to it, no matter doing what) or trying to get a new job (based on numbers of offers in Dice.com) the list worth something... but is not what the title say.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440629</id>
	<title>Re:The complete list</title>
	<author>Jason Levine</author>
	<datestamp>1245778680000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I find it funny that they think the Bay area's lack of a major sports championship counts against them but then, in the same sentence, count Boston's championships as negatives as well.  Is a sports championship a positive or a negative?  It can be either one or neither, but it can't be both!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I find it funny that they think the Bay area 's lack of a major sports championship counts against them but then , in the same sentence , count Boston 's championships as negatives as well .
Is a sports championship a positive or a negative ?
It can be either one or neither , but it ca n't be both !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find it funny that they think the Bay area's lack of a major sports championship counts against them but then, in the same sentence, count Boston's championships as negatives as well.
Is a sports championship a positive or a negative?
It can be either one or neither, but it can't be both!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443243</id>
	<title>Re:Upstate New York Isn't That Bad...</title>
	<author>tnk1</author>
	<datestamp>1245787680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I lived in Upstate all my life until about 8-9 years ago.  I never had a real problem with the winters, you just dealt with it.  Since you got snow, you were always prepared to deal with it, so it didn't slow you down.  I moved to Virginia, and I feel sort of guilty when I work from home when there is a mere 3 inches of snow or even less on the ground.</p><p>Of course, I do have to remind myself that here, snow happens, but they don't have the infrastructure to really deal with it, so 3 inches of snow ends up being more dangerous than a foot of snow in NY.  Especially with the asshat drivers around here that either drive far too fast for conditions, or slow down to a crawl if they see any snow.</p><p>I do have to admit, I like living farther south much more.  I rarely have to shovel, and there's more sunlight, but its not like I was suicidal in NY.</p><p>As for the IT jobs situation, I find myself considering how lucky I was to have gotten a job in IT there to begin with.  And I am even luckier that I got out before things fell apart after the first bubble popped.  Just a year or two later, my former employer went bankrupt and bounced most of its staff to the curb with no severance or anything.</p><p>If you have to start your career there in IT and you have a job lined up, it's okay for entry level, but if you plan on living there forever, you might as well give up now, because you have begun the inevitable slow, but certain path to career suicide.  Once it is time to get into mid-career jobs, you need to get the fuck out of there.  There is little room to change employers, so you end up locked into the situation where you are waiting for the person above you to be promoted, retire, or move out of state.</p><p>Cost of living is low, but so is pay, so you are always better off going somewhere where your absolute pay is better, as long as the percentages are about the same.</p><p>Having said that, I still don't see how Syracuse is much different than various other small to mid-sized cities out there.  I doubt there is anything uniquely terrible  tech-wise in Syracuse as opposed to anywhere else.  That's probably why they brought up the snow, but frankly, even though there is more precipitation, a winter there is much preferable to winters in places like Mid-West, where the temperatures get much, much colder.  I've just always thought of Syracuse as an IT dead-end, but nothing worse than that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I lived in Upstate all my life until about 8-9 years ago .
I never had a real problem with the winters , you just dealt with it .
Since you got snow , you were always prepared to deal with it , so it did n't slow you down .
I moved to Virginia , and I feel sort of guilty when I work from home when there is a mere 3 inches of snow or even less on the ground.Of course , I do have to remind myself that here , snow happens , but they do n't have the infrastructure to really deal with it , so 3 inches of snow ends up being more dangerous than a foot of snow in NY .
Especially with the asshat drivers around here that either drive far too fast for conditions , or slow down to a crawl if they see any snow.I do have to admit , I like living farther south much more .
I rarely have to shovel , and there 's more sunlight , but its not like I was suicidal in NY.As for the IT jobs situation , I find myself considering how lucky I was to have gotten a job in IT there to begin with .
And I am even luckier that I got out before things fell apart after the first bubble popped .
Just a year or two later , my former employer went bankrupt and bounced most of its staff to the curb with no severance or anything.If you have to start your career there in IT and you have a job lined up , it 's okay for entry level , but if you plan on living there forever , you might as well give up now , because you have begun the inevitable slow , but certain path to career suicide .
Once it is time to get into mid-career jobs , you need to get the fuck out of there .
There is little room to change employers , so you end up locked into the situation where you are waiting for the person above you to be promoted , retire , or move out of state.Cost of living is low , but so is pay , so you are always better off going somewhere where your absolute pay is better , as long as the percentages are about the same.Having said that , I still do n't see how Syracuse is much different than various other small to mid-sized cities out there .
I doubt there is anything uniquely terrible tech-wise in Syracuse as opposed to anywhere else .
That 's probably why they brought up the snow , but frankly , even though there is more precipitation , a winter there is much preferable to winters in places like Mid-West , where the temperatures get much , much colder .
I 've just always thought of Syracuse as an IT dead-end , but nothing worse than that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I lived in Upstate all my life until about 8-9 years ago.
I never had a real problem with the winters, you just dealt with it.
Since you got snow, you were always prepared to deal with it, so it didn't slow you down.
I moved to Virginia, and I feel sort of guilty when I work from home when there is a mere 3 inches of snow or even less on the ground.Of course, I do have to remind myself that here, snow happens, but they don't have the infrastructure to really deal with it, so 3 inches of snow ends up being more dangerous than a foot of snow in NY.
Especially with the asshat drivers around here that either drive far too fast for conditions, or slow down to a crawl if they see any snow.I do have to admit, I like living farther south much more.
I rarely have to shovel, and there's more sunlight, but its not like I was suicidal in NY.As for the IT jobs situation, I find myself considering how lucky I was to have gotten a job in IT there to begin with.
And I am even luckier that I got out before things fell apart after the first bubble popped.
Just a year or two later, my former employer went bankrupt and bounced most of its staff to the curb with no severance or anything.If you have to start your career there in IT and you have a job lined up, it's okay for entry level, but if you plan on living there forever, you might as well give up now, because you have begun the inevitable slow, but certain path to career suicide.
Once it is time to get into mid-career jobs, you need to get the fuck out of there.
There is little room to change employers, so you end up locked into the situation where you are waiting for the person above you to be promoted, retire, or move out of state.Cost of living is low, but so is pay, so you are always better off going somewhere where your absolute pay is better, as long as the percentages are about the same.Having said that, I still don't see how Syracuse is much different than various other small to mid-sized cities out there.
I doubt there is anything uniquely terrible  tech-wise in Syracuse as opposed to anywhere else.
That's probably why they brought up the snow, but frankly, even though there is more precipitation, a winter there is much preferable to winters in places like Mid-West, where the temperatures get much, much colder.
I've just always thought of Syracuse as an IT dead-end, but nothing worse than that.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440927</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>ageoffri</author>
	<datestamp>1245779760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>I find several things rather depressing with your reply.  First that it is immediately a Republican vs. Democrat for you and not judging people by their actions.  Second that you felt the need to butcher Reagan's name.  No where did I say it was limited to R/D as far as the tax and spend attitude goes.  Obama is at least justified in his massive deficit spending since prevailing economic theories hold that a key action to break a recession is for Government spending.  While I would have liked for the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act to have been more front loaded and some of the spending to have gone other places, overall it was the right thing.  It has screwed any chance of Obama leaving a legacy of a balanced budget for his first term, but better an unbalanced budget then a depression.

I also don't see a difference between tax and spend vs. Drunken Sailor with a No-limit Credit Card.  Both are irresponsible methods that need to be cracked down on.  If you think that Democrats in power don't line the pockets of their friends and family as often as Republicans do you should pay more attention.  Enough people from both sides do it that it is a serious problem but I see no way to change it in the near term.

In the long run I would love to see a clearly worded Constitutional Amendment that required a balanced budget from Congress except in cases of formally declared war and certain explicitly worded economic issues such as recession, inflation and deflation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I find several things rather depressing with your reply .
First that it is immediately a Republican vs. Democrat for you and not judging people by their actions .
Second that you felt the need to butcher Reagan 's name .
No where did I say it was limited to R/D as far as the tax and spend attitude goes .
Obama is at least justified in his massive deficit spending since prevailing economic theories hold that a key action to break a recession is for Government spending .
While I would have liked for the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act to have been more front loaded and some of the spending to have gone other places , overall it was the right thing .
It has screwed any chance of Obama leaving a legacy of a balanced budget for his first term , but better an unbalanced budget then a depression .
I also do n't see a difference between tax and spend vs. Drunken Sailor with a No-limit Credit Card .
Both are irresponsible methods that need to be cracked down on .
If you think that Democrats in power do n't line the pockets of their friends and family as often as Republicans do you should pay more attention .
Enough people from both sides do it that it is a serious problem but I see no way to change it in the near term .
In the long run I would love to see a clearly worded Constitutional Amendment that required a balanced budget from Congress except in cases of formally declared war and certain explicitly worded economic issues such as recession , inflation and deflation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find several things rather depressing with your reply.
First that it is immediately a Republican vs. Democrat for you and not judging people by their actions.
Second that you felt the need to butcher Reagan's name.
No where did I say it was limited to R/D as far as the tax and spend attitude goes.
Obama is at least justified in his massive deficit spending since prevailing economic theories hold that a key action to break a recession is for Government spending.
While I would have liked for the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act to have been more front loaded and some of the spending to have gone other places, overall it was the right thing.
It has screwed any chance of Obama leaving a legacy of a balanced budget for his first term, but better an unbalanced budget then a depression.
I also don't see a difference between tax and spend vs. Drunken Sailor with a No-limit Credit Card.
Both are irresponsible methods that need to be cracked down on.
If you think that Democrats in power don't line the pockets of their friends and family as often as Republicans do you should pay more attention.
Enough people from both sides do it that it is a serious problem but I see no way to change it in the near term.
In the long run I would love to see a clearly worded Constitutional Amendment that required a balanced budget from Congress except in cases of formally declared war and certain explicitly worded economic issues such as recession, inflation and deflation.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442173</id>
	<title>Re:Upstate New York Isn't That Bad...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245784020000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I calll BULLSH*T!</p><p>Lived there myself.</p><p>It was a miserable godforsaken place.</p><p>The winter is easily 5-6 months out of the year (starting end of October and ending end of April).  Yes, I have seen the 3 feet of snow that falls in April.</p><p>The snow is horrific, and the cost and inconvenience to heat your home as a result is unbearable.</p><p>The economy is crap, ruled primarily by corrupt lawmakers and business people who think the best way to get ahead is to screw as many low income workers as they can (DestiNY USA I'm lookin at you!).</p><p>The quality of the IT people who work there is about 3 levels below everywhere else in the country.  They get by through BSing their way into jobs with little to no clue about how the real IT industry works.  The only real IT jobs available in the area are for defense contractors, since Syracuse, which "makes while the world takes", apparently doesn't make anything worthwhile anymore.  (Lookin at you Carrier air).</p><p>Finally, if all that's not enough, the property taxes are oppressive.</p><p>I suppose for people who have lived in that muck all their lives it's tolerable, but for the rest of us, as my Dad used to say, "A bad job anywhere is better than a good job in upstate NY."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I calll BULLSH * T ! Lived there myself.It was a miserable godforsaken place.The winter is easily 5-6 months out of the year ( starting end of October and ending end of April ) .
Yes , I have seen the 3 feet of snow that falls in April.The snow is horrific , and the cost and inconvenience to heat your home as a result is unbearable.The economy is crap , ruled primarily by corrupt lawmakers and business people who think the best way to get ahead is to screw as many low income workers as they can ( DestiNY USA I 'm lookin at you !
) .The quality of the IT people who work there is about 3 levels below everywhere else in the country .
They get by through BSing their way into jobs with little to no clue about how the real IT industry works .
The only real IT jobs available in the area are for defense contractors , since Syracuse , which " makes while the world takes " , apparently does n't make anything worthwhile anymore .
( Lookin at you Carrier air ) .Finally , if all that 's not enough , the property taxes are oppressive.I suppose for people who have lived in that muck all their lives it 's tolerable , but for the rest of us , as my Dad used to say , " A bad job anywhere is better than a good job in upstate NY .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I calll BULLSH*T!Lived there myself.It was a miserable godforsaken place.The winter is easily 5-6 months out of the year (starting end of October and ending end of April).
Yes, I have seen the 3 feet of snow that falls in April.The snow is horrific, and the cost and inconvenience to heat your home as a result is unbearable.The economy is crap, ruled primarily by corrupt lawmakers and business people who think the best way to get ahead is to screw as many low income workers as they can (DestiNY USA I'm lookin at you!
).The quality of the IT people who work there is about 3 levels below everywhere else in the country.
They get by through BSing their way into jobs with little to no clue about how the real IT industry works.
The only real IT jobs available in the area are for defense contractors, since Syracuse, which "makes while the world takes", apparently doesn't make anything worthwhile anymore.
(Lookin at you Carrier air).Finally, if all that's not enough, the property taxes are oppressive.I suppose for people who have lived in that muck all their lives it's tolerable, but for the rest of us, as my Dad used to say, "A bad job anywhere is better than a good job in upstate NY.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442639</id>
	<title>Re:In this economy any IT job is a good job</title>
	<author>gad\_zuki!</author>
	<datestamp>1245785640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>&gt;Of everyone who was in my circle of friends working in the IT and computer industry in the mid-to-late 1990s, the only people who have jobs today are in middle management.</p><p>Not surprised. The 1990s drew in tons of unqualified unprofessional people into IT. Anyone who could install ICQ and reboot an Win98 machine got some kind of job by clueless hiring managers. These people didnt develop professionally, they didnt finish school, they couldnt write a basic admin script, didnt know any OS9 or OSX let alone any linux, and they didnt know much outside of the most basic level 1 support tasks.</p><p>Ive met these people and they really dont belong in the industry. Im not saying your friends are these people but there might be some overlap here. The culling in the last few years has sent a lot of people who dont belong in IT back to school or in different industries where they belong.   Its more competitive now and when I mention, say, ssh I dont get a clueless look from the guy Im talking to.  Having to work with unqualified bullshitters isnt desirable at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Of everyone who was in my circle of friends working in the IT and computer industry in the mid-to-late 1990s , the only people who have jobs today are in middle management.Not surprised .
The 1990s drew in tons of unqualified unprofessional people into IT .
Anyone who could install ICQ and reboot an Win98 machine got some kind of job by clueless hiring managers .
These people didnt develop professionally , they didnt finish school , they couldnt write a basic admin script , didnt know any OS9 or OSX let alone any linux , and they didnt know much outside of the most basic level 1 support tasks.Ive met these people and they really dont belong in the industry .
Im not saying your friends are these people but there might be some overlap here .
The culling in the last few years has sent a lot of people who dont belong in IT back to school or in different industries where they belong .
Its more competitive now and when I mention , say , ssh I dont get a clueless look from the guy Im talking to .
Having to work with unqualified bullshitters isnt desirable at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;Of everyone who was in my circle of friends working in the IT and computer industry in the mid-to-late 1990s, the only people who have jobs today are in middle management.Not surprised.
The 1990s drew in tons of unqualified unprofessional people into IT.
Anyone who could install ICQ and reboot an Win98 machine got some kind of job by clueless hiring managers.
These people didnt develop professionally, they didnt finish school, they couldnt write a basic admin script, didnt know any OS9 or OSX let alone any linux, and they didnt know much outside of the most basic level 1 support tasks.Ive met these people and they really dont belong in the industry.
Im not saying your friends are these people but there might be some overlap here.
The culling in the last few years has sent a lot of people who dont belong in IT back to school or in different industries where they belong.
Its more competitive now and when I mention, say, ssh I dont get a clueless look from the guy Im talking to.
Having to work with unqualified bullshitters isnt desirable at all.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441201</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>rainmaestro</author>
	<datestamp>1245780720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We're not a big city, but I'm quite happy in Clearwater, FL. We're part of the Tampa Bay area, with about 2.7 million people, but the Clearwater/St. Pete part of the region only has about 350K. I moved here from one of the cities on that list (Orlando), and god willing I'll never set foot in that city again. Tampa Bay is great as long as you stay the hell out of Tampa.</p><p>A lot of mid-sized cities in Florida are like this. All the conveniences of a full-fledged city, but still sufficient ruralness in and around us. The peninsula area (St. Pete plus Clearwater) is pretty laid back.</p><p>Nothing was worse than when I lived down in Boca Raton. One giant city stretching from Miami up to West Palm Beach. Truly suffocating. I had a 2.5 mile commute that took me 40 minutes, and I didn't even get on I-95. If the heat index wasn't 100+ degrees 3/4 of the year, I could have *walked* to work in less time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 're not a big city , but I 'm quite happy in Clearwater , FL .
We 're part of the Tampa Bay area , with about 2.7 million people , but the Clearwater/St .
Pete part of the region only has about 350K .
I moved here from one of the cities on that list ( Orlando ) , and god willing I 'll never set foot in that city again .
Tampa Bay is great as long as you stay the hell out of Tampa.A lot of mid-sized cities in Florida are like this .
All the conveniences of a full-fledged city , but still sufficient ruralness in and around us .
The peninsula area ( St. Pete plus Clearwater ) is pretty laid back.Nothing was worse than when I lived down in Boca Raton .
One giant city stretching from Miami up to West Palm Beach .
Truly suffocating .
I had a 2.5 mile commute that took me 40 minutes , and I did n't even get on I-95 .
If the heat index was n't 100 + degrees 3/4 of the year , I could have * walked * to work in less time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We're not a big city, but I'm quite happy in Clearwater, FL.
We're part of the Tampa Bay area, with about 2.7 million people, but the Clearwater/St.
Pete part of the region only has about 350K.
I moved here from one of the cities on that list (Orlando), and god willing I'll never set foot in that city again.
Tampa Bay is great as long as you stay the hell out of Tampa.A lot of mid-sized cities in Florida are like this.
All the conveniences of a full-fledged city, but still sufficient ruralness in and around us.
The peninsula area (St. Pete plus Clearwater) is pretty laid back.Nothing was worse than when I lived down in Boca Raton.
One giant city stretching from Miami up to West Palm Beach.
Truly suffocating.
I had a 2.5 mile commute that took me 40 minutes, and I didn't even get on I-95.
If the heat index wasn't 100+ degrees 3/4 of the year, I could have *walked* to work in less time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443279</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245787860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I lived near Detroit for 10 years.<br>Yes, more coastline, but you can't go swimming until Memorial day.<br>Yes, more freshwater, which is accompanied by the Michigan state bird (AKA giant mosquitoes)<br>The fishing is good (if the "birds" don't bother you).<br>I will gladly give up leaves turning colors to avoid having the ground turn white (and all the fun that goes with it).<br>If I want to go snow skiing, I can go to the mountains with thousands of feet of vertical travel.  In MI, you pay an arm and a leg for a manmade hill that is a few hundred feet high.<br>-The people are almost as racially biased and segregated as the south.<br>-Home values are still dropping because the population is.<br>-Yes, Detroit is the worst, but the rest of the state doesn't have much going for it except the outdoors - which is kind of the antithesis of IT.<br>I'm not done, but I'll stop now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I lived near Detroit for 10 years.Yes , more coastline , but you ca n't go swimming until Memorial day.Yes , more freshwater , which is accompanied by the Michigan state bird ( AKA giant mosquitoes ) The fishing is good ( if the " birds " do n't bother you ) .I will gladly give up leaves turning colors to avoid having the ground turn white ( and all the fun that goes with it ) .If I want to go snow skiing , I can go to the mountains with thousands of feet of vertical travel .
In MI , you pay an arm and a leg for a manmade hill that is a few hundred feet high.-The people are almost as racially biased and segregated as the south.-Home values are still dropping because the population is.-Yes , Detroit is the worst , but the rest of the state does n't have much going for it except the outdoors - which is kind of the antithesis of IT.I 'm not done , but I 'll stop now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I lived near Detroit for 10 years.Yes, more coastline, but you can't go swimming until Memorial day.Yes, more freshwater, which is accompanied by the Michigan state bird (AKA giant mosquitoes)The fishing is good (if the "birds" don't bother you).I will gladly give up leaves turning colors to avoid having the ground turn white (and all the fun that goes with it).If I want to go snow skiing, I can go to the mountains with thousands of feet of vertical travel.
In MI, you pay an arm and a leg for a manmade hill that is a few hundred feet high.-The people are almost as racially biased and segregated as the south.-Home values are still dropping because the population is.-Yes, Detroit is the worst, but the rest of the state doesn't have much going for it except the outdoors - which is kind of the antithesis of IT.I'm not done, but I'll stop now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440707</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>mh1997</author>
	<datestamp>1245778980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Any ideas about which suburban or rural areas are good...to work in for IT jobs?</p></div></blockquote><p>

Yes, but I won't tell at the risk of turning it into</p><blockquote><div><p>a very suffocating place, full of busy little bees who have no idea what it is to take the time to smell the roses</p></div> </blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Any ideas about which suburban or rural areas are good...to work in for IT jobs ?
Yes , but I wo n't tell at the risk of turning it intoa very suffocating place , full of busy little bees who have no idea what it is to take the time to smell the roses</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any ideas about which suburban or rural areas are good...to work in for IT jobs?
Yes, but I won't tell at the risk of turning it intoa very suffocating place, full of busy little bees who have no idea what it is to take the time to smell the roses 
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441371</id>
	<title>Re:No way</title>
	<author>plague3106</author>
	<datestamp>1245781440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> shit-crazy Unibomber types to living in our mothers' basements</i></p><p>I think you're insulting the Unibomber.  IIRC, he at least had his OWN place to live.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>shit-crazy Unibomber types to living in our mothers ' basementsI think you 're insulting the Unibomber .
IIRC , he at least had his OWN place to live .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> shit-crazy Unibomber types to living in our mothers' basementsI think you're insulting the Unibomber.
IIRC, he at least had his OWN place to live.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443483</id>
	<title>Re:Alaska is nice - if you can keep a job</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245788640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How many large companies are hiring if you're an Oracle DBA in Alaska?</p></div><p>The State Of Alaska needs Oracle DBAs, like yesterday.</p></div>
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<tokenext>How many large companies are hiring if you 're an Oracle DBA in Alaska ? The State Of Alaska needs Oracle DBAs , like yesterday .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many large companies are hiring if you're an Oracle DBA in Alaska?The State Of Alaska needs Oracle DBAs, like yesterday.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440595</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>ari\_j</author>
	<datestamp>1245778620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>California would be the perfect state if not for all the Californians.  It has just about every type of terrain and climate you could ask for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but too many Californians passing too many Californian laws.</htmltext>
<tokenext>California would be the perfect state if not for all the Californians .
It has just about every type of terrain and climate you could ask for ... but too many Californians passing too many Californian laws .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>California would be the perfect state if not for all the Californians.
It has just about every type of terrain and climate you could ask for ... but too many Californians passing too many Californian laws.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28447215</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>xaxa</author>
	<datestamp>1245760440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which is that? I think it's London or Paris, depending what measure you're using.</p><p>I live in London, and agree with everything you say. Also, using a bicycle here gives me a lot more flexibility -- I live 100 metres from a vast park, but 15 minutes from the nearest station (on foot). Because of the latter, I'm saving &pound;&pound;&pound; in rent. It's 4 minutes by bike to the station.</p><p>Having said that, I've  only recently finished university. This time last year, most of my friends living within half an hour's walk of each other. Now, we've spread out around the whole city (within a 4 hour walk of each other?), which means we can only really meet in central London.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which is that ?
I think it 's London or Paris , depending what measure you 're using.I live in London , and agree with everything you say .
Also , using a bicycle here gives me a lot more flexibility -- I live 100 metres from a vast park , but 15 minutes from the nearest station ( on foot ) .
Because of the latter , I 'm saving       in rent .
It 's 4 minutes by bike to the station.Having said that , I 've only recently finished university .
This time last year , most of my friends living within half an hour 's walk of each other .
Now , we 've spread out around the whole city ( within a 4 hour walk of each other ?
) , which means we can only really meet in central London .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which is that?
I think it's London or Paris, depending what measure you're using.I live in London, and agree with everything you say.
Also, using a bicycle here gives me a lot more flexibility -- I live 100 metres from a vast park, but 15 minutes from the nearest station (on foot).
Because of the latter, I'm saving £££ in rent.
It's 4 minutes by bike to the station.Having said that, I've  only recently finished university.
This time last year, most of my friends living within half an hour's walk of each other.
Now, we've spread out around the whole city (within a 4 hour walk of each other?
), which means we can only really meet in central London.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441053</id>
	<title>Re:Southern Utah....</title>
	<author>ElForesto</author>
	<datestamp>1245780180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Las Vegas is just as bad. You're either stuck in a call center hell OR you find a buddy in casino IT to get your foot in the door. There's almost nothing in the way of mid-career positions so that you can keep moving up the chain.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Las Vegas is just as bad .
You 're either stuck in a call center hell OR you find a buddy in casino IT to get your foot in the door .
There 's almost nothing in the way of mid-career positions so that you can keep moving up the chain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Las Vegas is just as bad.
You're either stuck in a call center hell OR you find a buddy in casino IT to get your foot in the door.
There's almost nothing in the way of mid-career positions so that you can keep moving up the chain.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440695</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>TFer\_Atvar</author>
	<datestamp>1245778920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, I laughed that they chose Anchorage as their example for "anytown (sic) in Alaska". The saying around here is that the best thing about Anchorage is that you can drive to Alaska from there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I laughed that they chose Anchorage as their example for " anytown ( sic ) in Alaska " .
The saying around here is that the best thing about Anchorage is that you can drive to Alaska from there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I laughed that they chose Anchorage as their example for "anytown (sic) in Alaska".
The saying around here is that the best thing about Anchorage is that you can drive to Alaska from there.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442261</id>
	<title>Big market bias</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245784260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Top 10 list of "where the IT jobs are at": all big ad market cities. You can't pay me enough to move to Chicago, EVER, much less for a job, but it's on the CIO darling list.<p>

Bottom 7 list: small/mid-market and rust belt cities. Way to dig deep, CIO.</p><p>

Sure, Cleveland has it down side, but compared to the 'top 10 cities for IT jobs' that they also have a slideshow for, the place is WAY cheaper to live in, and if you're smart you're not living in the city anyway, when a nice clean house in the nice clean burbs is dirt cheap. Plus if you get overworked and have a heart attack, head over to the Cleveland Clinic; they'll patch you up real good.</p><p>

So people from SoCal, how's LA to work IT in, what with the crappy traffic and screwy government?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Top 10 list of " where the IT jobs are at " : all big ad market cities .
You ca n't pay me enough to move to Chicago , EVER , much less for a job , but it 's on the CIO darling list .
Bottom 7 list : small/mid-market and rust belt cities .
Way to dig deep , CIO .
Sure , Cleveland has it down side , but compared to the 'top 10 cities for IT jobs ' that they also have a slideshow for , the place is WAY cheaper to live in , and if you 're smart you 're not living in the city anyway , when a nice clean house in the nice clean burbs is dirt cheap .
Plus if you get overworked and have a heart attack , head over to the Cleveland Clinic ; they 'll patch you up real good .
So people from SoCal , how 's LA to work IT in , what with the crappy traffic and screwy government ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Top 10 list of "where the IT jobs are at": all big ad market cities.
You can't pay me enough to move to Chicago, EVER, much less for a job, but it's on the CIO darling list.
Bottom 7 list: small/mid-market and rust belt cities.
Way to dig deep, CIO.
Sure, Cleveland has it down side, but compared to the 'top 10 cities for IT jobs' that they also have a slideshow for, the place is WAY cheaper to live in, and if you're smart you're not living in the city anyway, when a nice clean house in the nice clean burbs is dirt cheap.
Plus if you get overworked and have a heart attack, head over to the Cleveland Clinic; they'll patch you up real good.
So people from SoCal, how's LA to work IT in, what with the crappy traffic and screwy government?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442727</id>
	<title>hmm</title>
	<author>NovaHorizon</author>
	<datestamp>1245785880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what about the cities that list tech jobs as: 0 ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what about the cities that list tech jobs as : 0 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what about the cities that list tech jobs as: 0 ?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443663</id>
	<title>Re:No way</title>
	<author>b4upoo</author>
	<datestamp>1245789180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>        The problem with hunting and fishing in Alaska is that there is always a real chance that you will be the game. Bears think people are just yummy.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Then again the dangers from freaks in Miami, the stinking year round heat, the endless traffic jams as well as lower wages and higher expenses makes being eaten by a bear in Alaska sound like a reasonable idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem with hunting and fishing in Alaska is that there is always a real chance that you will be the game .
Bears think people are just yummy .
                Then again the dangers from freaks in Miami , the stinking year round heat , the endless traffic jams as well as lower wages and higher expenses makes being eaten by a bear in Alaska sound like a reasonable idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>        The problem with hunting and fishing in Alaska is that there is always a real chance that you will be the game.
Bears think people are just yummy.
                Then again the dangers from freaks in Miami, the stinking year round heat, the endless traffic jams as well as lower wages and higher expenses makes being eaten by a bear in Alaska sound like a reasonable idea.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444059</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>MooseMuffin</author>
	<datestamp>1245790500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I enjoy driving.  I enjoy privacy.  I like to be close enough to visit friends and family, and far enough away so those visits require advance planning and justification.  I have friends who live in the city, and everything about that environment feels like a perpetual invasion of my space.  Give me a supermarket within 10 minutes and a mall/movie theater within 30 and I'm happy.  I spent 10 days in Tokyo, and despite having no trouble getting around with their very nice rail system, as I arrived back I found myself looking forward to driving myself back home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I enjoy driving .
I enjoy privacy .
I like to be close enough to visit friends and family , and far enough away so those visits require advance planning and justification .
I have friends who live in the city , and everything about that environment feels like a perpetual invasion of my space .
Give me a supermarket within 10 minutes and a mall/movie theater within 30 and I 'm happy .
I spent 10 days in Tokyo , and despite having no trouble getting around with their very nice rail system , as I arrived back I found myself looking forward to driving myself back home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I enjoy driving.
I enjoy privacy.
I like to be close enough to visit friends and family, and far enough away so those visits require advance planning and justification.
I have friends who live in the city, and everything about that environment feels like a perpetual invasion of my space.
Give me a supermarket within 10 minutes and a mall/movie theater within 30 and I'm happy.
I spent 10 days in Tokyo, and despite having no trouble getting around with their very nice rail system, as I arrived back I found myself looking forward to driving myself back home.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441327</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>Dragonslicer</author>
	<datestamp>1245781260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I've never seen one proper city that didn't feel like a very suffocating place, full of busy little bees who have no idea what it is to take the time to smell the roses.  I could never live in one.  Any ideas about which suburban or rural areas are good/bad to work in for IT jobs?</p></div><p>Suburban Boston is pretty nice. I don't hear gunshots on a regular basis (at least not since my last job, where the office park was right next to the shooting range), nor am I afraid to walk outside my door after sunset. I see plenty of trees outside my window, and my apartment complex is all off-street parking. If you want a little excitement, I'm a 15-minute drive or a 25-minute bus ride to the subway station, so getting to the city is pretty easy. The northwest suburbs have the "128 tech corridor" of Woburn, Burlington, Bedford, Lexington, and Waltham, so there's quite a bit of work where you don't have to commute into the city.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've never seen one proper city that did n't feel like a very suffocating place , full of busy little bees who have no idea what it is to take the time to smell the roses .
I could never live in one .
Any ideas about which suburban or rural areas are good/bad to work in for IT jobs ? Suburban Boston is pretty nice .
I do n't hear gunshots on a regular basis ( at least not since my last job , where the office park was right next to the shooting range ) , nor am I afraid to walk outside my door after sunset .
I see plenty of trees outside my window , and my apartment complex is all off-street parking .
If you want a little excitement , I 'm a 15-minute drive or a 25-minute bus ride to the subway station , so getting to the city is pretty easy .
The northwest suburbs have the " 128 tech corridor " of Woburn , Burlington , Bedford , Lexington , and Waltham , so there 's quite a bit of work where you do n't have to commute into the city .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've never seen one proper city that didn't feel like a very suffocating place, full of busy little bees who have no idea what it is to take the time to smell the roses.
I could never live in one.
Any ideas about which suburban or rural areas are good/bad to work in for IT jobs?Suburban Boston is pretty nice.
I don't hear gunshots on a regular basis (at least not since my last job, where the office park was right next to the shooting range), nor am I afraid to walk outside my door after sunset.
I see plenty of trees outside my window, and my apartment complex is all off-street parking.
If you want a little excitement, I'm a 15-minute drive or a 25-minute bus ride to the subway station, so getting to the city is pretty easy.
The northwest suburbs have the "128 tech corridor" of Woburn, Burlington, Bedford, Lexington, and Waltham, so there's quite a bit of work where you don't have to commute into the city.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28446759</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>Leebert</author>
	<datestamp>1245757860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I've never seen a rural area that isn't mind-numbingly boring, has nothing going on and smells faintly of shit. I could never live in one.</p></div><p>Uhura: Peace and quiet appeals to me, Lieutenant.<br>Liuetenant: Well, maybe that's okay for someone like you whose career is winding down. But me, I need some challenge in my life.  Some adventure.  Maybe even just a surprise or two.<br>Uhura: You know what they say... be careful what you wish for. You may get it.</p><p>(Posted from rural Carroll County, MD.  Have to go, I think the cows are prank ringing my doorbell again...)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've never seen a rural area that is n't mind-numbingly boring , has nothing going on and smells faintly of shit .
I could never live in one.Uhura : Peace and quiet appeals to me , Lieutenant.Liuetenant : Well , maybe that 's okay for someone like you whose career is winding down .
But me , I need some challenge in my life .
Some adventure .
Maybe even just a surprise or two.Uhura : You know what they say... be careful what you wish for .
You may get it .
( Posted from rural Carroll County , MD .
Have to go , I think the cows are prank ringing my doorbell again... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've never seen a rural area that isn't mind-numbingly boring, has nothing going on and smells faintly of shit.
I could never live in one.Uhura: Peace and quiet appeals to me, Lieutenant.Liuetenant: Well, maybe that's okay for someone like you whose career is winding down.
But me, I need some challenge in my life.
Some adventure.
Maybe even just a surprise or two.Uhura: You know what they say... be careful what you wish for.
You may get it.
(Posted from rural Carroll County, MD.
Have to go, I think the cows are prank ringing my doorbell again...)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440797</id>
	<title>Re:Southern Utah....</title>
	<author>Chabo</author>
	<datestamp>1245779220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That brings up a question for me: this article talks about "IT", but are they counting the entire computer industry, including engineers and developers, or are do they mean actual IT jobs, like sysadmins and DBadmins?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That brings up a question for me : this article talks about " IT " , but are they counting the entire computer industry , including engineers and developers , or are do they mean actual IT jobs , like sysadmins and DBadmins ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That brings up a question for me: this article talks about "IT", but are they counting the entire computer industry, including engineers and developers, or are do they mean actual IT jobs, like sysadmins and DBadmins?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441567</id>
	<title>Re:Dallas??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245782100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dallas is the home of Ma Bell (or AT&amp;T or whatever name she goes by these days).  That's the frickin' phone company.  The phone company is for all intents and purposes an IT shop.  EDS?  TI?  I guess they employ people but the company who is practically in charge of our physical network domestically trumps a few oil companies when it comes to IT workers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dallas is the home of Ma Bell ( or AT&amp;T or whatever name she goes by these days ) .
That 's the frickin ' phone company .
The phone company is for all intents and purposes an IT shop .
EDS ? TI ?
I guess they employ people but the company who is practically in charge of our physical network domestically trumps a few oil companies when it comes to IT workers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dallas is the home of Ma Bell (or AT&amp;T or whatever name she goes by these days).
That's the frickin' phone company.
The phone company is for all intents and purposes an IT shop.
EDS?  TI?
I guess they employ people but the company who is practically in charge of our physical network domestically trumps a few oil companies when it comes to IT workers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28447917</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>runningduck</author>
	<datestamp>1245765720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It sounds like all Michigan needs is a few entrepreneurs.  I suspect, however, that the cost of living is too high preventing a real rich environment for innovation and grass roots start-ups from sprouting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It sounds like all Michigan needs is a few entrepreneurs .
I suspect , however , that the cost of living is too high preventing a real rich environment for innovation and grass roots start-ups from sprouting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It sounds like all Michigan needs is a few entrepreneurs.
I suspect, however, that the cost of living is too high preventing a real rich environment for innovation and grass roots start-ups from sprouting.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444069</id>
	<title>How about San Jose?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245790500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Aren't the real estate prices in San Jose the same as San Francisco? Add to that a slightly drier heat than NorCal and a city which is not even a real city, but just a big suburb (at the moment), I'd say San Jose deserves to be there more than San Francisco. CIO.com is utterly clueless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are n't the real estate prices in San Jose the same as San Francisco ?
Add to that a slightly drier heat than NorCal and a city which is not even a real city , but just a big suburb ( at the moment ) , I 'd say San Jose deserves to be there more than San Francisco .
CIO.com is utterly clueless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aren't the real estate prices in San Jose the same as San Francisco?
Add to that a slightly drier heat than NorCal and a city which is not even a real city, but just a big suburb (at the moment), I'd say San Jose deserves to be there more than San Francisco.
CIO.com is utterly clueless.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440109</id>
	<title>Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245776760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Okay, I don't really believe that. I just always wanted to see what that sentence looked like in print.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Okay , I do n't really believe that .
I just always wanted to see what that sentence looked like in print .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Okay, I don't really believe that.
I just always wanted to see what that sentence looked like in print.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443367</id>
	<title>Re:Orlando</title>
	<author>T.E.D.</author>
	<datestamp>1245788160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As someone who used to work in Orlando, I'd like to second this defense of it. I've worked in 6 different cities now, and Orlando was far and away my favorite.
</p><p>The articles main complaint seemed to be that you have to share the city with aligators. Yeah, it can be kind of a bummer that you can't just heedlessly jump in any old lake you like. But on the other hand, gators are just way damn cool. If anything I had more trouble with the other local fanua (fire ants, feral pigs, etc). Honestly, you did a better job of talking it down than the article did.
</p><p>Hurricanes are really no big deal there. You are far enough inland that they are just really big storms by the time they get to you. We get ones nearly as bad in Oklahoma, and way more of them. The locals freak out way more over mild freezes. Its funny to see everyone's shrubbery suddenly sprout bedclothes when the forecast night lows hit the lower 30's.
</p><p>Cool things you didn't mention: Nighttime shuttle launches. Sadly, I don't think there will be any more of these, but anyone who has seen one knows what I am talking about. You just can't imagine the light those things put out unless you've been there. Think dawn in the middle of the night. Best free show on earth.
</p><p>Year round outdoor activities. I spent one Christmas with a mild sunburn because I'd been playing beach volleyball two days before. Along with this, there are bike <em>lanes</em> on every road.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone who used to work in Orlando , I 'd like to second this defense of it .
I 've worked in 6 different cities now , and Orlando was far and away my favorite .
The articles main complaint seemed to be that you have to share the city with aligators .
Yeah , it can be kind of a bummer that you ca n't just heedlessly jump in any old lake you like .
But on the other hand , gators are just way damn cool .
If anything I had more trouble with the other local fanua ( fire ants , feral pigs , etc ) .
Honestly , you did a better job of talking it down than the article did .
Hurricanes are really no big deal there .
You are far enough inland that they are just really big storms by the time they get to you .
We get ones nearly as bad in Oklahoma , and way more of them .
The locals freak out way more over mild freezes .
Its funny to see everyone 's shrubbery suddenly sprout bedclothes when the forecast night lows hit the lower 30 's .
Cool things you did n't mention : Nighttime shuttle launches .
Sadly , I do n't think there will be any more of these , but anyone who has seen one knows what I am talking about .
You just ca n't imagine the light those things put out unless you 've been there .
Think dawn in the middle of the night .
Best free show on earth .
Year round outdoor activities .
I spent one Christmas with a mild sunburn because I 'd been playing beach volleyball two days before .
Along with this , there are bike lanes on every road .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone who used to work in Orlando, I'd like to second this defense of it.
I've worked in 6 different cities now, and Orlando was far and away my favorite.
The articles main complaint seemed to be that you have to share the city with aligators.
Yeah, it can be kind of a bummer that you can't just heedlessly jump in any old lake you like.
But on the other hand, gators are just way damn cool.
If anything I had more trouble with the other local fanua (fire ants, feral pigs, etc).
Honestly, you did a better job of talking it down than the article did.
Hurricanes are really no big deal there.
You are far enough inland that they are just really big storms by the time they get to you.
We get ones nearly as bad in Oklahoma, and way more of them.
The locals freak out way more over mild freezes.
Its funny to see everyone's shrubbery suddenly sprout bedclothes when the forecast night lows hit the lower 30's.
Cool things you didn't mention: Nighttime shuttle launches.
Sadly, I don't think there will be any more of these, but anyone who has seen one knows what I am talking about.
You just can't imagine the light those things put out unless you've been there.
Think dawn in the middle of the night.
Best free show on earth.
Year round outdoor activities.
I spent one Christmas with a mild sunburn because I'd been playing beach volleyball two days before.
Along with this, there are bike lanes on every road.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440187</id>
	<title>The complete list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245777060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The list for people that don't like slideshows:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1. Detroit, Mich. - Jobs available: 449<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2. Bentonville, Ark. - Jobs available: 81<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3. Cleveland, Ohio - Jobs available: 211<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4. Syracuse, N.Y. - Jobs available: 49<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5. Tie: Boston, Mass., and San Francisco, Calif.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6. Anytown in Alaska - Jobs available: 24<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 7. Orlando, Fla. - Jobs available: 235<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The list for people that do n't like slideshows :         1 .
Detroit , Mich. - Jobs available : 449         2 .
Bentonville , Ark .
- Jobs available : 81         3 .
Cleveland , Ohio - Jobs available : 211         4 .
Syracuse , N.Y. - Jobs available : 49         5 .
Tie : Boston , Mass. , and San Francisco , Calif .         6 .
Anytown in Alaska - Jobs available : 24         7 .
Orlando , Fla. - Jobs available : 235    </tokentext>
<sentencetext>The list for people that don't like slideshows:
        1.
Detroit, Mich. - Jobs available: 449
        2.
Bentonville, Ark.
- Jobs available: 81
        3.
Cleveland, Ohio - Jobs available: 211
        4.
Syracuse, N.Y. - Jobs available: 49
        5.
Tie: Boston, Mass., and San Francisco, Calif.
        6.
Anytown in Alaska - Jobs available: 24
        7.
Orlando, Fla. - Jobs available: 235
   </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444583</id>
	<title>Re:Orlando</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245749100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My sister lives there.  I don't want to slam anyone's town, but I really don't like Orlando. Got stuck more than a few times on the I-4, have had lots of snooty restaurant staff, noticed very racist undercurrents (I'm Asian and everyone from grocery clerks to hotel managers have given me this "know what I mean?" glance when talking about non-white patrons).  Biggest turn off: it seems that everyone I meet there is really, really concerned about how much money they're making in the markets, etc.. I've been fortunate in financial matters, but consider it annoying when people try to determine how much I make, what is my source of income, etc.. (I own an IT consultancy, btw, and do a lot of work with the tourist businesses in that area).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My sister lives there .
I do n't want to slam anyone 's town , but I really do n't like Orlando .
Got stuck more than a few times on the I-4 , have had lots of snooty restaurant staff , noticed very racist undercurrents ( I 'm Asian and everyone from grocery clerks to hotel managers have given me this " know what I mean ?
" glance when talking about non-white patrons ) .
Biggest turn off : it seems that everyone I meet there is really , really concerned about how much money they 're making in the markets , etc.. I 've been fortunate in financial matters , but consider it annoying when people try to determine how much I make , what is my source of income , etc.. ( I own an IT consultancy , btw , and do a lot of work with the tourist businesses in that area ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My sister lives there.
I don't want to slam anyone's town, but I really don't like Orlando.
Got stuck more than a few times on the I-4, have had lots of snooty restaurant staff, noticed very racist undercurrents (I'm Asian and everyone from grocery clerks to hotel managers have given me this "know what I mean?
" glance when talking about non-white patrons).
Biggest turn off: it seems that everyone I meet there is really, really concerned about how much money they're making in the markets, etc.. I've been fortunate in financial matters, but consider it annoying when people try to determine how much I make, what is my source of income, etc.. (I own an IT consultancy, btw, and do a lot of work with the tourist businesses in that area).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28448281</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245769560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you trying to sound like a cliche? Camaro Z-28 with t-tops, some number of guns (most admittedly illegal in some states), anti-tax, etc.  Are you Joe the Plumber's brother?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you trying to sound like a cliche ?
Camaro Z-28 with t-tops , some number of guns ( most admittedly illegal in some states ) , anti-tax , etc .
Are you Joe the Plumber 's brother ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you trying to sound like a cliche?
Camaro Z-28 with t-tops, some number of guns (most admittedly illegal in some states), anti-tax, etc.
Are you Joe the Plumber's brother?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440543</id>
	<title>Re:Southern Utah....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245778380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In my experience, IT pay sucks throughout the state of Utah, even in Salt Lake.  Not sure why that is, but it kept me from settling there, even though I really like the city:  Any city will start to suck if you're broke all the time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In my experience , IT pay sucks throughout the state of Utah , even in Salt Lake .
Not sure why that is , but it kept me from settling there , even though I really like the city : Any city will start to suck if you 're broke all the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In my experience, IT pay sucks throughout the state of Utah, even in Salt Lake.
Not sure why that is, but it kept me from settling there, even though I really like the city:  Any city will start to suck if you're broke all the time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441415</id>
	<title>With a grain of salt...</title>
	<author>EvilGrin5000</author>
	<datestamp>1245781560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>After reading TFA which brings a tie between Boston and LA as awful places to work, the link right below this article entitled "Where the IT Jobs Are: 10 American Cities" lists BOTH Boston and LA.....<br><br>Just for reference, the article from this thread is from June 18th or so while the second article praising cities for IT jobs is from May1st.<br><br>Although the original article mentions both places as a heaven for IT geeks, it also warns against the quality of life in the areas....or maybe I'm just trying to find the silver lining?</htmltext>
<tokenext>After reading TFA which brings a tie between Boston and LA as awful places to work , the link right below this article entitled " Where the IT Jobs Are : 10 American Cities " lists BOTH Boston and LA.....Just for reference , the article from this thread is from June 18th or so while the second article praising cities for IT jobs is from May1st.Although the original article mentions both places as a heaven for IT geeks , it also warns against the quality of life in the areas....or maybe I 'm just trying to find the silver lining ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After reading TFA which brings a tie between Boston and LA as awful places to work, the link right below this article entitled "Where the IT Jobs Are: 10 American Cities" lists BOTH Boston and LA.....Just for reference, the article from this thread is from June 18th or so while the second article praising cities for IT jobs is from May1st.Although the original article mentions both places as a heaven for IT geeks, it also warns against the quality of life in the areas....or maybe I'm just trying to find the silver lining?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28445033</id>
	<title>Re:Orlando</title>
	<author>Hausenwulf</author>
	<datestamp>1245750600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>One of the cheapest costs of living, especially if you don't mind commuting from the burbs.</p></div><p>You're kidding, right? I've lived a few years in Tampa now, but moved from Oklahoma and I actually know what a low cost of living is really like. Let's just say the cost of living in central Florida is not incredibly high but nowhere near the cheapest.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the cheapest costs of living , especially if you do n't mind commuting from the burbs.You 're kidding , right ?
I 've lived a few years in Tampa now , but moved from Oklahoma and I actually know what a low cost of living is really like .
Let 's just say the cost of living in central Florida is not incredibly high but nowhere near the cheapest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the cheapest costs of living, especially if you don't mind commuting from the burbs.You're kidding, right?
I've lived a few years in Tampa now, but moved from Oklahoma and I actually know what a low cost of living is really like.
Let's just say the cost of living in central Florida is not incredibly high but nowhere near the cheapest.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443681</id>
	<title>Re:Missing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245789240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you want to count commuting though, spending 10-12 hours a day "working" due to the 8 hours of work + traffic/distance, that pretty well describes working ANYWHERE in southern california.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want to count commuting though , spending 10-12 hours a day " working " due to the 8 hours of work + traffic/distance , that pretty well describes working ANYWHERE in southern california .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want to count commuting though, spending 10-12 hours a day "working" due to the 8 hours of work + traffic/distance, that pretty well describes working ANYWHERE in southern california.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441071</id>
	<title>San Francisco? REALLY?</title>
	<author>phantomcircuit</author>
	<datestamp>1245780240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>San Francisco claims the No. 1 spot for worst cities for identify theft, or "iJacking." For professional sports, the Bay Area has the longest current streak without a major sports championship</p></div></blockquote><p>Yes because someone in IT is likely to have a problem with identify theft and care about sports.  Please give me a break.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>San Francisco claims the No .
1 spot for worst cities for identify theft , or " iJacking .
" For professional sports , the Bay Area has the longest current streak without a major sports championshipYes because someone in IT is likely to have a problem with identify theft and care about sports .
Please give me a break .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>San Francisco claims the No.
1 spot for worst cities for identify theft, or "iJacking.
" For professional sports, the Bay Area has the longest current streak without a major sports championshipYes because someone in IT is likely to have a problem with identify theft and care about sports.
Please give me a break.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443069</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245787080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As a New Jerseyan, I am absolutely insulted and appalled that you think there's a state in this great nation more corrupt than us!</p></div><p>New Jersey isn't really a state.  More like a suburb of New York.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a New Jerseyan , I am absolutely insulted and appalled that you think there 's a state in this great nation more corrupt than us ! New Jersey is n't really a state .
More like a suburb of New York .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a New Jerseyan, I am absolutely insulted and appalled that you think there's a state in this great nation more corrupt than us!New Jersey isn't really a state.
More like a suburb of New York.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441107</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1245780360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As opposed to the cities that smell completely like public restroom at a cheap bar? Actually New York was rather nice when I went there. The nothing going on part is true in some places but the problem with most cities is everything that is going on costs big bucks. Have you seen what theater tickets cost? A night at a club? Even a lot of museums are charging these days.<br>It all depends on what you enjoy doing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As opposed to the cities that smell completely like public restroom at a cheap bar ?
Actually New York was rather nice when I went there .
The nothing going on part is true in some places but the problem with most cities is everything that is going on costs big bucks .
Have you seen what theater tickets cost ?
A night at a club ?
Even a lot of museums are charging these days.It all depends on what you enjoy doing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As opposed to the cities that smell completely like public restroom at a cheap bar?
Actually New York was rather nice when I went there.
The nothing going on part is true in some places but the problem with most cities is everything that is going on costs big bucks.
Have you seen what theater tickets cost?
A night at a club?
Even a lot of museums are charging these days.It all depends on what you enjoy doing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444539</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>metlin</author>
	<datestamp>1245748920000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>1) We've got more coastline than California - and it's fresh water.</p></div></blockquote><p>No. You've more shoreline, not coastline. You can only have a coastline if you've a sea or an ocean coast, and you have neither. Secondly, shoreline does not equal beaches (or the weather to spend time at the beaches). There's a reason you see people going to the beaches of California and Florida and not to the beaches of Michigan or Illinois.</p><blockquote><div><p>We've got 4 seasons (which is good or bad depending on your preference).</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, sure. 2 months of summer don't count.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><blockquote><div><p>More second homes than any other state (most on the water).</p></div></blockquote><p>Which means that most of the population is non-permanent, which makes it extremely hard from a taxation and a state infrastructure perspective. And as anyone who has driven in Michigan can tell you, infrastructure in Michigan is horrible - bad roads, little to no public transportation, poor quality public schools etc. Hell, even the good parks in Michigan are private (e.g. the Fred Meijer sculpture park).</p><blockquote><div><p>We've don't get earthquakes, hurricanes, forest fires, termites, poisonous spiders/snakes.</p></div></blockquote><p>No, instead you have bad roads, ice storms, blizzards and it's nigh impossible flying, driving (or boating) into Michigan at any time of the year except maybe for those two months in summer.</p><blockquote><div><p>We do get the occasional tornado, but far less than most of the midwest.</p></div></blockquote><p>Comparing yourself against the midwest (with the exception of Chicago) is like comparing yourself with a short, ugly and dumb prostitute. You may be taller, less uglier and relatively not as unintelligent - but that's not saying much.</p><blockquote><div><p>Education: we've got plenty of geek-schools.</p></div></blockquote><p>Really? I can only think of one good school that's ranked well - UMich Ann Arbor. Compare this with, say, New England (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Columbia etc), California (several UCs and national labs, Caltech, Stanford etc) and so on. Once again, Michigan may have more schools than, say, Kansas or Arkansas - but that's not saying much. I mean, just look at Wikipedia -- <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_colleges\_and\_universities\_in\_Michigan" title="wikipedia.org">Michigan</a> [wikipedia.org] vs. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_colleges\_and\_universities\_in\_Massachusetts" title="wikipedia.org">Massachusetts</a> [wikipedia.org] or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_colleges\_and\_universities\_in\_California" title="wikipedia.org">California</a> [wikipedia.org].</p><blockquote><div><p>Manufacturing. Does anyone care? We can build anything here - tech included</p></div></blockquote><p>Of course. The American car industry has certainly shown us the quality of American manufacturing. Oh wait.</p><blockquote><div><p>We've got an enormous set of technically capable people just waiting for companies to set up shop here.</p></div></blockquote><p>Eh?</p></div>
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<tokenext>1 ) We 've got more coastline than California - and it 's fresh water.No .
You 've more shoreline , not coastline .
You can only have a coastline if you 've a sea or an ocean coast , and you have neither .
Secondly , shoreline does not equal beaches ( or the weather to spend time at the beaches ) .
There 's a reason you see people going to the beaches of California and Florida and not to the beaches of Michigan or Illinois.We 've got 4 seasons ( which is good or bad depending on your preference ) .Well , sure .
2 months of summer do n't count .
: ) More second homes than any other state ( most on the water ) .Which means that most of the population is non-permanent , which makes it extremely hard from a taxation and a state infrastructure perspective .
And as anyone who has driven in Michigan can tell you , infrastructure in Michigan is horrible - bad roads , little to no public transportation , poor quality public schools etc .
Hell , even the good parks in Michigan are private ( e.g .
the Fred Meijer sculpture park ) .We 've do n't get earthquakes , hurricanes , forest fires , termites , poisonous spiders/snakes.No , instead you have bad roads , ice storms , blizzards and it 's nigh impossible flying , driving ( or boating ) into Michigan at any time of the year except maybe for those two months in summer.We do get the occasional tornado , but far less than most of the midwest.Comparing yourself against the midwest ( with the exception of Chicago ) is like comparing yourself with a short , ugly and dumb prostitute .
You may be taller , less uglier and relatively not as unintelligent - but that 's not saying much.Education : we 've got plenty of geek-schools.Really ?
I can only think of one good school that 's ranked well - UMich Ann Arbor .
Compare this with , say , New England ( Harvard , Yale , Princeton , MIT , Columbia etc ) , California ( several UCs and national labs , Caltech , Stanford etc ) and so on .
Once again , Michigan may have more schools than , say , Kansas or Arkansas - but that 's not saying much .
I mean , just look at Wikipedia -- Michigan [ wikipedia.org ] vs. Massachusetts [ wikipedia.org ] or California [ wikipedia.org ] .Manufacturing .
Does anyone care ?
We can build anything here - tech includedOf course .
The American car industry has certainly shown us the quality of American manufacturing .
Oh wait.We 've got an enormous set of technically capable people just waiting for companies to set up shop here.Eh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) We've got more coastline than California - and it's fresh water.No.
You've more shoreline, not coastline.
You can only have a coastline if you've a sea or an ocean coast, and you have neither.
Secondly, shoreline does not equal beaches (or the weather to spend time at the beaches).
There's a reason you see people going to the beaches of California and Florida and not to the beaches of Michigan or Illinois.We've got 4 seasons (which is good or bad depending on your preference).Well, sure.
2 months of summer don't count.
:)More second homes than any other state (most on the water).Which means that most of the population is non-permanent, which makes it extremely hard from a taxation and a state infrastructure perspective.
And as anyone who has driven in Michigan can tell you, infrastructure in Michigan is horrible - bad roads, little to no public transportation, poor quality public schools etc.
Hell, even the good parks in Michigan are private (e.g.
the Fred Meijer sculpture park).We've don't get earthquakes, hurricanes, forest fires, termites, poisonous spiders/snakes.No, instead you have bad roads, ice storms, blizzards and it's nigh impossible flying, driving (or boating) into Michigan at any time of the year except maybe for those two months in summer.We do get the occasional tornado, but far less than most of the midwest.Comparing yourself against the midwest (with the exception of Chicago) is like comparing yourself with a short, ugly and dumb prostitute.
You may be taller, less uglier and relatively not as unintelligent - but that's not saying much.Education: we've got plenty of geek-schools.Really?
I can only think of one good school that's ranked well - UMich Ann Arbor.
Compare this with, say, New England (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Columbia etc), California (several UCs and national labs, Caltech, Stanford etc) and so on.
Once again, Michigan may have more schools than, say, Kansas or Arkansas - but that's not saying much.
I mean, just look at Wikipedia -- Michigan [wikipedia.org] vs. Massachusetts [wikipedia.org] or California [wikipedia.org].Manufacturing.
Does anyone care?
We can build anything here - tech includedOf course.
The American car industry has certainly shown us the quality of American manufacturing.
Oh wait.We've got an enormous set of technically capable people just waiting for companies to set up shop here.Eh?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443043</id>
	<title>U.s is fine -- what about Canada</title>
	<author>KingPin27</author>
	<datestamp>1245786960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are some pretty bad places - it appears to work in the U.S. But what about Canada?
I'm sure there's some Canadians out there -

How about anywhere in Southern Alberta (south of Calgary)?</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are some pretty bad places - it appears to work in the U.S. But what about Canada ?
I 'm sure there 's some Canadians out there - How about anywhere in Southern Alberta ( south of Calgary ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are some pretty bad places - it appears to work in the U.S. But what about Canada?
I'm sure there's some Canadians out there -

How about anywhere in Southern Alberta (south of Calgary)?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441199</id>
	<title>Orlando</title>
	<author>Knowbuddy</author>
	<datestamp>1245780720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've worked in IT in the Orlando/Central Florida area since 1996.  It's not that bad.  It's not some perfect Utopia, but nor is it one of the worst places to work.</p><p> <strong>The Good</strong> </p><ul>
<li>One of the cheapest costs of living, especially if you don't mind commuting from the burbs.</li><li>No state income tax.</li><li>Hundreds of miles of beaches within 90 minutes in almost every direction.</li><li>More theme parks than you can shake a stick at, most of which offer cheap annual passes to Florida residents.  (True story: I used to live across the street from Universal, and would get up at 8am to go ride the roller coasters for an hour before work.)</li><li>Wide variety of cultures and food, so if you've got a craving for it, you can probably find it within a 10 minute drive.</li><li>Winters are beautiful and cool.</li><li>Rails-To-Trails has converted many miles of old railroad tracks into running/cycling trails.  My favorite trail is a half-marathon long (13.1 miles) one way, with only 2 lighted intersection crossings.</li><li>The IT program at the local university (UCF) isn't bad, and is very tech-worker-friendly with its online options.  Many of the local community colleges even offer certification programs (such as A+, CCNA, Oracle, and even RedHat) in both day and night school.</li><li>Shuttle launches are awesome and you can see them by walking outside.  Yeah, they're going away in a few short years, but they're still awesome.</li></ul><p> <strong>The Bad</strong> </p><ul>
<li>It's a commuter town.  Get used to driving everywhere.  The public transport (GoLynx.com) is laughably bad, especially for IT workers.  (The buses don't run useful schedules near the tech areas such as Heathrow.)</li><li>The nightlife continues to decline, and many local lawmakers continue to nail down the coffin lid.</li><li>Yeah, we occasionally get hurricanes.  Sometimes more than one per season.  But they aren't nearly as bad as what you see on TV, and we don't panic like other places do.  In most cases we shut down the town for 24-48 hours and then go right back to work.</li><li>The blue-hairs.  Yes, they really do drive as bad as you've heard.  Yes, they do get out and vote for things that will make you cry.</li></ul><p> <strong>The Ugly</strong> </p><ul>
<li>The heat.  Today it is 95F with a heat index of 109F.  And it's not a dry heat.  It is an oppressive, sticky, walk outside and break into an instant sweat kind of heat.</li></ul><p>The tourists aren't <em>that bad</em>, unless you are hanging out in the tourist areas.  Which you aren't going to do after your first month here.</p><p>In all, there's more good than bad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've worked in IT in the Orlando/Central Florida area since 1996 .
It 's not that bad .
It 's not some perfect Utopia , but nor is it one of the worst places to work .
The Good One of the cheapest costs of living , especially if you do n't mind commuting from the burbs.No state income tax.Hundreds of miles of beaches within 90 minutes in almost every direction.More theme parks than you can shake a stick at , most of which offer cheap annual passes to Florida residents .
( True story : I used to live across the street from Universal , and would get up at 8am to go ride the roller coasters for an hour before work .
) Wide variety of cultures and food , so if you 've got a craving for it , you can probably find it within a 10 minute drive.Winters are beautiful and cool.Rails-To-Trails has converted many miles of old railroad tracks into running/cycling trails .
My favorite trail is a half-marathon long ( 13.1 miles ) one way , with only 2 lighted intersection crossings.The IT program at the local university ( UCF ) is n't bad , and is very tech-worker-friendly with its online options .
Many of the local community colleges even offer certification programs ( such as A + , CCNA , Oracle , and even RedHat ) in both day and night school.Shuttle launches are awesome and you can see them by walking outside .
Yeah , they 're going away in a few short years , but they 're still awesome .
The Bad It 's a commuter town .
Get used to driving everywhere .
The public transport ( GoLynx.com ) is laughably bad , especially for IT workers .
( The buses do n't run useful schedules near the tech areas such as Heathrow .
) The nightlife continues to decline , and many local lawmakers continue to nail down the coffin lid.Yeah , we occasionally get hurricanes .
Sometimes more than one per season .
But they are n't nearly as bad as what you see on TV , and we do n't panic like other places do .
In most cases we shut down the town for 24-48 hours and then go right back to work.The blue-hairs .
Yes , they really do drive as bad as you 've heard .
Yes , they do get out and vote for things that will make you cry .
The Ugly The heat .
Today it is 95F with a heat index of 109F .
And it 's not a dry heat .
It is an oppressive , sticky , walk outside and break into an instant sweat kind of heat.The tourists are n't that bad , unless you are hanging out in the tourist areas .
Which you are n't going to do after your first month here.In all , there 's more good than bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've worked in IT in the Orlando/Central Florida area since 1996.
It's not that bad.
It's not some perfect Utopia, but nor is it one of the worst places to work.
The Good 
One of the cheapest costs of living, especially if you don't mind commuting from the burbs.No state income tax.Hundreds of miles of beaches within 90 minutes in almost every direction.More theme parks than you can shake a stick at, most of which offer cheap annual passes to Florida residents.
(True story: I used to live across the street from Universal, and would get up at 8am to go ride the roller coasters for an hour before work.
)Wide variety of cultures and food, so if you've got a craving for it, you can probably find it within a 10 minute drive.Winters are beautiful and cool.Rails-To-Trails has converted many miles of old railroad tracks into running/cycling trails.
My favorite trail is a half-marathon long (13.1 miles) one way, with only 2 lighted intersection crossings.The IT program at the local university (UCF) isn't bad, and is very tech-worker-friendly with its online options.
Many of the local community colleges even offer certification programs (such as A+, CCNA, Oracle, and even RedHat) in both day and night school.Shuttle launches are awesome and you can see them by walking outside.
Yeah, they're going away in a few short years, but they're still awesome.
The Bad 
It's a commuter town.
Get used to driving everywhere.
The public transport (GoLynx.com) is laughably bad, especially for IT workers.
(The buses don't run useful schedules near the tech areas such as Heathrow.
)The nightlife continues to decline, and many local lawmakers continue to nail down the coffin lid.Yeah, we occasionally get hurricanes.
Sometimes more than one per season.
But they aren't nearly as bad as what you see on TV, and we don't panic like other places do.
In most cases we shut down the town for 24-48 hours and then go right back to work.The blue-hairs.
Yes, they really do drive as bad as you've heard.
Yes, they do get out and vote for things that will make you cry.
The Ugly 
The heat.
Today it is 95F with a heat index of 109F.
And it's not a dry heat.
It is an oppressive, sticky, walk outside and break into an instant sweat kind of heat.The tourists aren't that bad, unless you are hanging out in the tourist areas.
Which you aren't going to do after your first month here.In all, there's more good than bad.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440275</id>
	<title>Re:The complete list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245777360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a worker in the top worst city of them all:</p><p>449 jobs?  That's got to be a lie unless they're including the entire metro area.  Also - those open positions are usually listed as open because someone's trying to hold onto the position so it gets cut instead of a human.  I know this because:<br>1) That's how my area "laid off" someone.<br>2) I know plenty of people who have applied for some of these and received a lovely letter saying, "This position has been 'canceled.'"</p><p>I'd also wager that many of the filings were posted before the bankruptcy filings, and were vacated because people who could move... did.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a worker in the top worst city of them all : 449 jobs ?
That 's got to be a lie unless they 're including the entire metro area .
Also - those open positions are usually listed as open because someone 's trying to hold onto the position so it gets cut instead of a human .
I know this because : 1 ) That 's how my area " laid off " someone.2 ) I know plenty of people who have applied for some of these and received a lovely letter saying , " This position has been 'canceled .
' " I 'd also wager that many of the filings were posted before the bankruptcy filings , and were vacated because people who could move... did .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a worker in the top worst city of them all:449 jobs?
That's got to be a lie unless they're including the entire metro area.
Also - those open positions are usually listed as open because someone's trying to hold onto the position so it gets cut instead of a human.
I know this because:1) That's how my area "laid off" someone.2) I know plenty of people who have applied for some of these and received a lovely letter saying, "This position has been 'canceled.
'"I'd also wager that many of the filings were posted before the bankruptcy filings, and were vacated because people who could move... did.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444431</id>
	<title>Re:Gary Indiana</title>
	<author>Tolkien</author>
	<datestamp>1245748500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Or you were a secretary who was assumed to be <b>boning and or related</b> to his or her associated vice president.</p></div><p>Wait wait, they were boning their boss/relative?</p></div>
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<tokenext>Or you were a secretary who was assumed to be boning and or related to his or her associated vice president.Wait wait , they were boning their boss/relative ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or you were a secretary who was assumed to be boning and or related to his or her associated vice president.Wait wait, they were boning their boss/relative?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440307</id>
	<title>What?</title>
	<author>qoncept</author>
	<datestamp>1245777540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>What a worthless list. What did anything they talked about have anything to do with IT?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What a worthless list .
What did anything they talked about have anything to do with IT ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a worthless list.
What did anything they talked about have anything to do with IT?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442709</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245785820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Alaska also has the most corrupt government in the whole damned country.  Its governor winds up being investigated by the state legislature for abusing her power.  Its senators wind up on trial for taking kickbacks, its congresscritters wind up on trial for taking kickbacks...I'm sensing a theme.</p><p>Also, without all the free oil money, Alaska would have the high taxes that you fear so very much.  Enjoy your nonexistent roads, education, and police in whatever tax-free haven state you eventually settle in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Alaska also has the most corrupt government in the whole damned country .
Its governor winds up being investigated by the state legislature for abusing her power .
Its senators wind up on trial for taking kickbacks , its congresscritters wind up on trial for taking kickbacks...I 'm sensing a theme.Also , without all the free oil money , Alaska would have the high taxes that you fear so very much .
Enjoy your nonexistent roads , education , and police in whatever tax-free haven state you eventually settle in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alaska also has the most corrupt government in the whole damned country.
Its governor winds up being investigated by the state legislature for abusing her power.
Its senators wind up on trial for taking kickbacks, its congresscritters wind up on trial for taking kickbacks...I'm sensing a theme.Also, without all the free oil money, Alaska would have the high taxes that you fear so very much.
Enjoy your nonexistent roads, education, and police in whatever tax-free haven state you eventually settle in.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442177</id>
	<title>Re:Southern Utah....</title>
	<author>Repossessed</author>
	<datestamp>1245784020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You should move to northern Utah.  You can make 11 instead!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You should move to northern Utah .
You can make 11 instead !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should move to northern Utah.
You can make 11 instead!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442445</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>Grishnakh</author>
	<datestamp>1245784860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except that half the people in Clearwater are Scientologists.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except that half the people in Clearwater are Scientologists .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except that half the people in Clearwater are Scientologists.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441903</id>
	<title>Re:No way</title>
	<author>$criptah</author>
	<datestamp>1245783120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>+1.  If it were not for my SO, I would totally move.  After living in many states and traveling around the U.S. I am convinced that any city out there is a bad place.  Suburbs are even worse because you have to maintain your house, your lawn and do other dog tricks in order to remain a good neighbor.  I understand that:  Nobody wants to live next to a guy who has 2 cars on bricks and an moved lawn.  But reality bites and trying to keep up with your neighbors is a royal pain in the ass especially if you don't have any slightest wish to do so.
</p><p>I would love to live in a remote place where I can get a decent chunk of land so I don't have to watch my neighbors wash their cars and throw kid parties every weekend.  Give me a salary I can live on w/o issues, a satellite dish, and a house.  I will gladly commute to work on a horse, go fishing, and do night photography on weekends in a place where you can actually see stars. As far as I am concerned suburbs and metro areas are slow death.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>+ 1 .
If it were not for my SO , I would totally move .
After living in many states and traveling around the U.S. I am convinced that any city out there is a bad place .
Suburbs are even worse because you have to maintain your house , your lawn and do other dog tricks in order to remain a good neighbor .
I understand that : Nobody wants to live next to a guy who has 2 cars on bricks and an moved lawn .
But reality bites and trying to keep up with your neighbors is a royal pain in the ass especially if you do n't have any slightest wish to do so .
I would love to live in a remote place where I can get a decent chunk of land so I do n't have to watch my neighbors wash their cars and throw kid parties every weekend .
Give me a salary I can live on w/o issues , a satellite dish , and a house .
I will gladly commute to work on a horse , go fishing , and do night photography on weekends in a place where you can actually see stars .
As far as I am concerned suburbs and metro areas are slow death .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>+1.
If it were not for my SO, I would totally move.
After living in many states and traveling around the U.S. I am convinced that any city out there is a bad place.
Suburbs are even worse because you have to maintain your house, your lawn and do other dog tricks in order to remain a good neighbor.
I understand that:  Nobody wants to live next to a guy who has 2 cars on bricks and an moved lawn.
But reality bites and trying to keep up with your neighbors is a royal pain in the ass especially if you don't have any slightest wish to do so.
I would love to live in a remote place where I can get a decent chunk of land so I don't have to watch my neighbors wash their cars and throw kid parties every weekend.
Give me a salary I can live on w/o issues, a satellite dish, and a house.
I will gladly commute to work on a horse, go fishing, and do night photography on weekends in a place where you can actually see stars.
As far as I am concerned suburbs and metro areas are slow death.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441511</id>
	<title>Really? Boston?</title>
	<author>RedHelix</author>
	<datestamp>1245781860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>W.... what? Boston may be "full of itself" in regards to sports, but I had landed a sysadmin job before I even graduated late last year, after only a month of job searching. Even my brother landed a sysadmin job a week after being laid off. If you're intelligent enough to compete with the many local tech school grads and like working in IT, Boston is where you want to go.

<br> <br>And before you complain about real estate prices there, do bear in mind that you don't have to suffer through tornadoes, floods, earthquakes, and the last major hurricane we had was a gust of wind compared to what Floridians routinely deal with.</htmltext>
<tokenext>W.... what ? Boston may be " full of itself " in regards to sports , but I had landed a sysadmin job before I even graduated late last year , after only a month of job searching .
Even my brother landed a sysadmin job a week after being laid off .
If you 're intelligent enough to compete with the many local tech school grads and like working in IT , Boston is where you want to go .
And before you complain about real estate prices there , do bear in mind that you do n't have to suffer through tornadoes , floods , earthquakes , and the last major hurricane we had was a gust of wind compared to what Floridians routinely deal with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>W.... what? Boston may be "full of itself" in regards to sports, but I had landed a sysadmin job before I even graduated late last year, after only a month of job searching.
Even my brother landed a sysadmin job a week after being laid off.
If you're intelligent enough to compete with the many local tech school grads and like working in IT, Boston is where you want to go.
And before you complain about real estate prices there, do bear in mind that you don't have to suffer through tornadoes, floods, earthquakes, and the last major hurricane we had was a gust of wind compared to what Floridians routinely deal with.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440317</id>
	<title>Detroit has Compuware</title>
	<author>javacowboy</author>
	<datestamp>1245777540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I used to work for Compuware (Detroit based), but this was at the Montreal office and I never had to travel to the head office.   Still, this is an example of an IT company that's based out of Detroit.   They sell software and consulting, and I think they got started by providing IT consulting to GM.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to work for Compuware ( Detroit based ) , but this was at the Montreal office and I never had to travel to the head office .
Still , this is an example of an IT company that 's based out of Detroit .
They sell software and consulting , and I think they got started by providing IT consulting to GM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to work for Compuware (Detroit based), but this was at the Montreal office and I never had to travel to the head office.
Still, this is an example of an IT company that's based out of Detroit.
They sell software and consulting, and I think they got started by providing IT consulting to GM.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28446951</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245758880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obama is spending more than four times more than anyone else ever has.  Why exactly does he get a free pass?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obama is spending more than four times more than anyone else ever has .
Why exactly does he get a free pass ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obama is spending more than four times more than anyone else ever has.
Why exactly does he get a free pass?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28445787</id>
	<title>Re:In this economy any IT job is a good job</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245753420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your friends sound like a bunch of whining slackers. Hell, you sound like a whining slacker.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your friends sound like a bunch of whining slackers .
Hell , you sound like a whining slacker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your friends sound like a bunch of whining slackers.
Hell, you sound like a whining slacker.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440731</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443311</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>Forbman</author>
	<datestamp>1245787920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and, state sales tax AND income tax...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and , state sales tax AND income tax.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and, state sales tax AND income tax...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441703</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>Malc</author>
	<datestamp>1245782520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why would you live somewhere that requires you to have a car?  What a crazy idea.  I live in one of the larger cities in N. America and get around on foot or bicycle.  It's at my pace.  I live life at my pace - smelling the roses, or not.  5.30pm, minutes after finishing work... I'm sailing and chilling on one of the biggest lakes in the world.</p><p>I've just got back from five months in Australia.  In many ways, Melbourne is very similar to Toronto.  I lived 45 km away from the city centre in SE suburbs.  Never again.  What a horrible way to live.  Everything we wanted to do was 30 minutes min., probably 60 minutes drive away, on a highway.  Talk about rushing around, not smelling the roses, and not actually doing anything.  I loved my time in Australia, but I will never live in suburbia again.  Out of the city is incredibly boring, and a dreadful lifestyle.</p><p>Each to their own.  Some people like it.  I don't.  I'm looking forward to moving to Europe's second biggest city later this year...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would you live somewhere that requires you to have a car ?
What a crazy idea .
I live in one of the larger cities in N. America and get around on foot or bicycle .
It 's at my pace .
I live life at my pace - smelling the roses , or not .
5.30pm , minutes after finishing work... I 'm sailing and chilling on one of the biggest lakes in the world.I 've just got back from five months in Australia .
In many ways , Melbourne is very similar to Toronto .
I lived 45 km away from the city centre in SE suburbs .
Never again .
What a horrible way to live .
Everything we wanted to do was 30 minutes min. , probably 60 minutes drive away , on a highway .
Talk about rushing around , not smelling the roses , and not actually doing anything .
I loved my time in Australia , but I will never live in suburbia again .
Out of the city is incredibly boring , and a dreadful lifestyle.Each to their own .
Some people like it .
I do n't .
I 'm looking forward to moving to Europe 's second biggest city later this year.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would you live somewhere that requires you to have a car?
What a crazy idea.
I live in one of the larger cities in N. America and get around on foot or bicycle.
It's at my pace.
I live life at my pace - smelling the roses, or not.
5.30pm, minutes after finishing work... I'm sailing and chilling on one of the biggest lakes in the world.I've just got back from five months in Australia.
In many ways, Melbourne is very similar to Toronto.
I lived 45 km away from the city centre in SE suburbs.
Never again.
What a horrible way to live.
Everything we wanted to do was 30 minutes min., probably 60 minutes drive away, on a highway.
Talk about rushing around, not smelling the roses, and not actually doing anything.
I loved my time in Australia, but I will never live in suburbia again.
Out of the city is incredibly boring, and a dreadful lifestyle.Each to their own.
Some people like it.
I don't.
I'm looking forward to moving to Europe's second biggest city later this year...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28444037</id>
	<title>Arkansas (The Entire State)</title>
	<author>gselfridge</author>
	<datestamp>1245790380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Arkansas or anyplace in Arkansas was not mentioned in the 10 worst nor in the article describing where the IT jobs are. What does this imply?<br>Is the state of Arkansas even a blip on the IT map?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Arkansas or anyplace in Arkansas was not mentioned in the 10 worst nor in the article describing where the IT jobs are .
What does this imply ? Is the state of Arkansas even a blip on the IT map ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Arkansas or anyplace in Arkansas was not mentioned in the 10 worst nor in the article describing where the IT jobs are.
What does this imply?Is the state of Arkansas even a blip on the IT map?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441133</id>
	<title>Re:Upstate New York Isn't That Bad...</title>
	<author>sanosuke001</author>
	<datestamp>1245780420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I live in Syracuse and the winters are really not that bad. As the parent stated, the snow either comes in gradually where it isn't an issue or in huge piles where you deal with it for a couple days and then it just sits on the side of the road. Also, as parent also said, the last few years have been warm and it usually melts pretty quickly. This past winter had a lot of rain which gets rid of snow pretty well.<br> <br>

However, as someone living in Syracuse with all my jobs since graduating college were in the Utica/Rome area; there isn't too many jobs in Software Development. There aren't many jobs in Utica/Rome, either, but if you want to find a job in Central NY (it's only called upstate by people from NYC. Messina is Upstate.) you need to look from Buffalo to Albany. If you can't relocate, you'll be looking for a while...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in Syracuse and the winters are really not that bad .
As the parent stated , the snow either comes in gradually where it is n't an issue or in huge piles where you deal with it for a couple days and then it just sits on the side of the road .
Also , as parent also said , the last few years have been warm and it usually melts pretty quickly .
This past winter had a lot of rain which gets rid of snow pretty well .
However , as someone living in Syracuse with all my jobs since graduating college were in the Utica/Rome area ; there is n't too many jobs in Software Development .
There are n't many jobs in Utica/Rome , either , but if you want to find a job in Central NY ( it 's only called upstate by people from NYC .
Messina is Upstate .
) you need to look from Buffalo to Albany .
If you ca n't relocate , you 'll be looking for a while.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in Syracuse and the winters are really not that bad.
As the parent stated, the snow either comes in gradually where it isn't an issue or in huge piles where you deal with it for a couple days and then it just sits on the side of the road.
Also, as parent also said, the last few years have been warm and it usually melts pretty quickly.
This past winter had a lot of rain which gets rid of snow pretty well.
However, as someone living in Syracuse with all my jobs since graduating college were in the Utica/Rome area; there isn't too many jobs in Software Development.
There aren't many jobs in Utica/Rome, either, but if you want to find a job in Central NY (it's only called upstate by people from NYC.
Messina is Upstate.
) you need to look from Buffalo to Albany.
If you can't relocate, you'll be looking for a while...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440763</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245779100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'd gladly take a position in Alaska. Wide open land with relatively few people. No overbearing State government that can't balance the budget, not much of an immigration problem up there either. Thanks to the oil revenues residents get checks from the State. About the only thing I would miss is being able to take the t-tops off on my Z28 even occasionally in the winter and pretty much all summer long.</p></div><p>I'm guessing you've never driven a rear wheel drive car in the snow.  Don't.  Then there's all the salt on the roads.</p><p>My experience is from Maine, but I can't imagine Alaska would be any friendlier to nice cars.  You could trade it for a really nice snowmobile though<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd gladly take a position in Alaska .
Wide open land with relatively few people .
No overbearing State government that ca n't balance the budget , not much of an immigration problem up there either .
Thanks to the oil revenues residents get checks from the State .
About the only thing I would miss is being able to take the t-tops off on my Z28 even occasionally in the winter and pretty much all summer long.I 'm guessing you 've never driven a rear wheel drive car in the snow .
Do n't. Then there 's all the salt on the roads.My experience is from Maine , but I ca n't imagine Alaska would be any friendlier to nice cars .
You could trade it for a really nice snowmobile though : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd gladly take a position in Alaska.
Wide open land with relatively few people.
No overbearing State government that can't balance the budget, not much of an immigration problem up there either.
Thanks to the oil revenues residents get checks from the State.
About the only thing I would miss is being able to take the t-tops off on my Z28 even occasionally in the winter and pretty much all summer long.I'm guessing you've never driven a rear wheel drive car in the snow.
Don't.  Then there's all the salt on the roads.My experience is from Maine, but I can't imagine Alaska would be any friendlier to nice cars.
You could trade it for a really nice snowmobile though :)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442361</id>
	<title>Re:Highly subjective is right.</title>
	<author>chaim79</author>
	<datestamp>1245784620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've always had more trouble with FWD in snow than RWD, mainly because I drive a lot in country roads, FWD is supposed to be better in stop-n-go, but it's terrable for long drives that have hills and curves. You let off the gas and you start 'engine breaking', when that happens your front wheels break free from it's limited traction and you've lost all ability to control. With RWD if  you let off the gas, start engine breaking, and the rear wheels break free (or step on the gas and the rear wheels break free) you've still got the front wheels to give you a chance of control, not a lot of control but a chance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've always had more trouble with FWD in snow than RWD , mainly because I drive a lot in country roads , FWD is supposed to be better in stop-n-go , but it 's terrable for long drives that have hills and curves .
You let off the gas and you start 'engine breaking ' , when that happens your front wheels break free from it 's limited traction and you 've lost all ability to control .
With RWD if you let off the gas , start engine breaking , and the rear wheels break free ( or step on the gas and the rear wheels break free ) you 've still got the front wheels to give you a chance of control , not a lot of control but a chance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've always had more trouble with FWD in snow than RWD, mainly because I drive a lot in country roads, FWD is supposed to be better in stop-n-go, but it's terrable for long drives that have hills and curves.
You let off the gas and you start 'engine breaking', when that happens your front wheels break free from it's limited traction and you've lost all ability to control.
With RWD if  you let off the gas, start engine breaking, and the rear wheels break free (or step on the gas and the rear wheels break free) you've still got the front wheels to give you a chance of control, not a lot of control but a chance.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441147</id>
	<title>Cleveland doesn't suck.</title>
	<author>evil\_aar0n</author>
	<datestamp>1245780540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't live there anymore, but, after Seattle, it was my favorite residence.  Obviously, these jokers are basing their analysis on unflattering pictures, rather than driving through these towns.  Just about everywhere you look as you drive on I-90, or 480, through Cleveland from one side to another, they're building.  I'm including the suburbs because - and it's one of the great things about the area - getting around takes just a few minutes.  The insurance company Progressive is huge in the area.  I like my job in NYC, now, but I'd go back to Cleveland if I found something comparable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't live there anymore , but , after Seattle , it was my favorite residence .
Obviously , these jokers are basing their analysis on unflattering pictures , rather than driving through these towns .
Just about everywhere you look as you drive on I-90 , or 480 , through Cleveland from one side to another , they 're building .
I 'm including the suburbs because - and it 's one of the great things about the area - getting around takes just a few minutes .
The insurance company Progressive is huge in the area .
I like my job in NYC , now , but I 'd go back to Cleveland if I found something comparable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't live there anymore, but, after Seattle, it was my favorite residence.
Obviously, these jokers are basing their analysis on unflattering pictures, rather than driving through these towns.
Just about everywhere you look as you drive on I-90, or 480, through Cleveland from one side to another, they're building.
I'm including the suburbs because - and it's one of the great things about the area - getting around takes just a few minutes.
The insurance company Progressive is huge in the area.
I like my job in NYC, now, but I'd go back to Cleveland if I found something comparable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442275</id>
	<title>Re:In this economy any IT job is a good job</title>
	<author>Lord Ender</author>
	<datestamp>1245784320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IT is stressful because it is a complicated, immature, and rapidly-changing industry. There are plenty of high-paying jobs in IT, but I think people leave the industry because they get sick of it.</p><p>The good news, however, is that these jobs pay so well that after a decade or two, a diligent saver can have enough investment cashflow to semi-retire, while consulting part-time to get that discretionary income. That's my dream, anyway, after working in IT for five years and investing 1/3rd of my income.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IT is stressful because it is a complicated , immature , and rapidly-changing industry .
There are plenty of high-paying jobs in IT , but I think people leave the industry because they get sick of it.The good news , however , is that these jobs pay so well that after a decade or two , a diligent saver can have enough investment cashflow to semi-retire , while consulting part-time to get that discretionary income .
That 's my dream , anyway , after working in IT for five years and investing 1/3rd of my income .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IT is stressful because it is a complicated, immature, and rapidly-changing industry.
There are plenty of high-paying jobs in IT, but I think people leave the industry because they get sick of it.The good news, however, is that these jobs pay so well that after a decade or two, a diligent saver can have enough investment cashflow to semi-retire, while consulting part-time to get that discretionary income.
That's my dream, anyway, after working in IT for five years and investing 1/3rd of my income.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440879</id>
	<title>Re:The complete list</title>
	<author>the phantom</author>
	<datestamp>1245779640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Too little water and you die of dehydration.  Too much water, and you drown.  Is water a good thing or a bad thing?<br> <br>
Perhaps the implication is that a city needs to have the occasional professional sports championship in order to be a good place to live, but that if it racks up too many championships, it becomes unlivable again.  I have far less trouble with this assertion than I do with understanding why professional sports matter at all <i>vis-a-vis</i> the quality of a work location.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Too little water and you die of dehydration .
Too much water , and you drown .
Is water a good thing or a bad thing ?
Perhaps the implication is that a city needs to have the occasional professional sports championship in order to be a good place to live , but that if it racks up too many championships , it becomes unlivable again .
I have far less trouble with this assertion than I do with understanding why professional sports matter at all vis-a-vis the quality of a work location .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too little water and you die of dehydration.
Too much water, and you drown.
Is water a good thing or a bad thing?
Perhaps the implication is that a city needs to have the occasional professional sports championship in order to be a good place to live, but that if it racks up too many championships, it becomes unlivable again.
I have far less trouble with this assertion than I do with understanding why professional sports matter at all vis-a-vis the quality of a work location.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440703</id>
	<title>I'll speak up for Cleveland</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245778920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Having worked for 4 different tech companies in Cleveland, I'll speak up for it.  Cleveland does have a few things going for it if you're in the tech sector.</p><p>There's good higher education to hire from (CWRU (of which I'm an alum) and CSU (from which I've had a couple of excellent co-workers)), good cultural institutions (Cleveland Orchestra, Cleveland Museum of Art, Playhouse Square, The Cleveland Playhouse), good restaurants, affordable housing, decent enough public transportation, and bearable traffic.  There's also a national park within about 30 or 40 minutes of downtown (Cuyahoga Valley National Park).</p><p>The tech sector is a little small, but it's fairly close-knit as a result of that.  I don't think you need 6 degrees to get from anybody to anybody else.  One or two is probably sufficient.</p><p>While the professional sports teams are perennially frustrating, that's not what I look for in a city.  At the end of the day, a city is what you make of it.  Cleveland comes with a lot of big city perks without a lot of big city hassles.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having worked for 4 different tech companies in Cleveland , I 'll speak up for it .
Cleveland does have a few things going for it if you 're in the tech sector.There 's good higher education to hire from ( CWRU ( of which I 'm an alum ) and CSU ( from which I 've had a couple of excellent co-workers ) ) , good cultural institutions ( Cleveland Orchestra , Cleveland Museum of Art , Playhouse Square , The Cleveland Playhouse ) , good restaurants , affordable housing , decent enough public transportation , and bearable traffic .
There 's also a national park within about 30 or 40 minutes of downtown ( Cuyahoga Valley National Park ) .The tech sector is a little small , but it 's fairly close-knit as a result of that .
I do n't think you need 6 degrees to get from anybody to anybody else .
One or two is probably sufficient.While the professional sports teams are perennially frustrating , that 's not what I look for in a city .
At the end of the day , a city is what you make of it .
Cleveland comes with a lot of big city perks without a lot of big city hassles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having worked for 4 different tech companies in Cleveland, I'll speak up for it.
Cleveland does have a few things going for it if you're in the tech sector.There's good higher education to hire from (CWRU (of which I'm an alum) and CSU (from which I've had a couple of excellent co-workers)), good cultural institutions (Cleveland Orchestra, Cleveland Museum of Art, Playhouse Square, The Cleveland Playhouse), good restaurants, affordable housing, decent enough public transportation, and bearable traffic.
There's also a national park within about 30 or 40 minutes of downtown (Cuyahoga Valley National Park).The tech sector is a little small, but it's fairly close-knit as a result of that.
I don't think you need 6 degrees to get from anybody to anybody else.
One or two is probably sufficient.While the professional sports teams are perennially frustrating, that's not what I look for in a city.
At the end of the day, a city is what you make of it.
Cleveland comes with a lot of big city perks without a lot of big city hassles.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28443595</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>fyrewulff</author>
	<datestamp>1245788940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The reason Omaha has trouble hanging onto tech companies is party because they get go public, get bought by a bigger company, then that bigger company moves them away.</p><p>It would be nice if some tech support companies would start up here, though. It's like call-center central here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason Omaha has trouble hanging onto tech companies is party because they get go public , get bought by a bigger company , then that bigger company moves them away.It would be nice if some tech support companies would start up here , though .
It 's like call-center central here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason Omaha has trouble hanging onto tech companies is party because they get go public, get bought by a bigger company, then that bigger company moves them away.It would be nice if some tech support companies would start up here, though.
It's like call-center central here.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28445359</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>The End Of Days</author>
	<datestamp>1245751680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget the generally racist attitudes and the inability to meet more than 1 person per square mile with an IQ above their shoe size.</p><p>Although I do get a kick out of explaining repeatedly how I can stand to have neighbors that speak Spanish.  One can never say "It's not really a big deal, Cletus," often enough.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget the generally racist attitudes and the inability to meet more than 1 person per square mile with an IQ above their shoe size.Although I do get a kick out of explaining repeatedly how I can stand to have neighbors that speak Spanish .
One can never say " It 's not really a big deal , Cletus , " often enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget the generally racist attitudes and the inability to meet more than 1 person per square mile with an IQ above their shoe size.Although I do get a kick out of explaining repeatedly how I can stand to have neighbors that speak Spanish.
One can never say "It's not really a big deal, Cletus," often enough.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441221</id>
	<title>Re:The complete list</title>
	<author>CFBMoo1</author>
	<datestamp>1245780780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I found it interesting that the picture looked like something out of that "Life After People." series I watch now and then.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I found it interesting that the picture looked like something out of that " Life After People .
" series I watch now and then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I found it interesting that the picture looked like something out of that "Life After People.
" series I watch now and then.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28456171</id>
	<title>Re:Upstate New York Isn't That Bad...</title>
	<author>wolfemi1</author>
	<datestamp>1245871560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dude, I just escaped from Syracuse after 3 years there, and I can tell you that it first starts snowing in August or September, and isn't cleared until May.  Short winter?  Are you high?

Of course, I hear that Syr gets more snow than other upstate locations, so maybe you have a different experience somewhere else, but Syracuse is a hellhole.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , I just escaped from Syracuse after 3 years there , and I can tell you that it first starts snowing in August or September , and is n't cleared until May .
Short winter ?
Are you high ?
Of course , I hear that Syr gets more snow than other upstate locations , so maybe you have a different experience somewhere else , but Syracuse is a hellhole .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, I just escaped from Syracuse after 3 years there, and I can tell you that it first starts snowing in August or September, and isn't cleared until May.
Short winter?
Are you high?
Of course, I hear that Syr gets more snow than other upstate locations, so maybe you have a different experience somewhere else, but Syracuse is a hellhole.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442395</id>
	<title>Alaska</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245784740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I wish I could go to Alaska."  "Gee, I'd really love to live in Alaska."  "I'd love to be in Alaska but I can't just this instant..."  "They pay you to live there!"</p><p>Okay, seriously you guys?  Speaking as an Alaskan?  Speaking for a large chunk of *other* Alaskans?</p><p>FUCK.  OFF.</p><p>Seriously.  You are not wanted here.  You want to "get away from it all"?  Tough shit.  Your other option - "letz run to Alaska u guyz lol wtfbbq!!!1!!!1one!" - means that you *bring it with you*, and I don't want that. I want your stupidity contained where it is.  So do most of the rest of us.  We already have far too much of it here in the state, and are busy attempting to digest it.</p><p>Alaska is full.  Go away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I wish I could go to Alaska .
" " Gee , I 'd really love to live in Alaska .
" " I 'd love to be in Alaska but I ca n't just this instant... " " They pay you to live there !
" Okay , seriously you guys ?
Speaking as an Alaskan ?
Speaking for a large chunk of * other * Alaskans ? FUCK .
OFF.Seriously. You are not wanted here .
You want to " get away from it all " ?
Tough shit .
Your other option - " letz run to Alaska u guyz lol wtfbbq ! ! ! 1 ! ! ! 1one !
" - means that you * bring it with you * , and I do n't want that .
I want your stupidity contained where it is .
So do most of the rest of us .
We already have far too much of it here in the state , and are busy attempting to digest it.Alaska is full .
Go away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I wish I could go to Alaska.
"  "Gee, I'd really love to live in Alaska.
"  "I'd love to be in Alaska but I can't just this instant..."  "They pay you to live there!
"Okay, seriously you guys?
Speaking as an Alaskan?
Speaking for a large chunk of *other* Alaskans?FUCK.
OFF.Seriously.  You are not wanted here.
You want to "get away from it all"?
Tough shit.
Your other option - "letz run to Alaska u guyz lol wtfbbq!!!1!!!1one!
" - means that you *bring it with you*, and I don't want that.
I want your stupidity contained where it is.
So do most of the rest of us.
We already have far too much of it here in the state, and are busy attempting to digest it.Alaska is full.
Go away.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441669</id>
	<title>Re:Upstate New York Isn't That Bad...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245782400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes it is.</p><p>I 'experienced' UNY for five long years.  I now live in Southern California.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes it is.I 'experienced ' UNY for five long years .
I now live in Southern California .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes it is.I 'experienced' UNY for five long years.
I now live in Southern California.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441853</id>
	<title>Portland doesn't get on either list because...</title>
	<author>zullnero</author>
	<datestamp>1245782940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a great place to work without a whole lot of jobs (the ones we have, though, are pretty skewed to IT).  I like how that just falls through the cracks for both of those lists.
<br> <br>
I've gotten plenty of big time offers though from companies in those states on the top ten "good places", and I've turned them down every time to stay here.  The air and water's cleaner, there's more parks and recreation than most places I've been, the extensive mass transit system saves me a bundle in auto costs, the property costs are way lower, and I've just kept getting jobs here that pay better than the average rate.  Nowhere else really has ever come close, at least not for me.
<br> <br>
As for those spots on the worst list, with the exception of Boston and SF, I've replied to recruiters while laughing out loud at my effort to remain serious and not snide.  When I say "If I know anyone who might be interested, I'll definitely send them on to you", in the back of my head, I'm thinking about any co-worker who's ever really pissed me off over the years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a great place to work without a whole lot of jobs ( the ones we have , though , are pretty skewed to IT ) .
I like how that just falls through the cracks for both of those lists .
I 've gotten plenty of big time offers though from companies in those states on the top ten " good places " , and I 've turned them down every time to stay here .
The air and water 's cleaner , there 's more parks and recreation than most places I 've been , the extensive mass transit system saves me a bundle in auto costs , the property costs are way lower , and I 've just kept getting jobs here that pay better than the average rate .
Nowhere else really has ever come close , at least not for me .
As for those spots on the worst list , with the exception of Boston and SF , I 've replied to recruiters while laughing out loud at my effort to remain serious and not snide .
When I say " If I know anyone who might be interested , I 'll definitely send them on to you " , in the back of my head , I 'm thinking about any co-worker who 's ever really pissed me off over the years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a great place to work without a whole lot of jobs (the ones we have, though, are pretty skewed to IT).
I like how that just falls through the cracks for both of those lists.
I've gotten plenty of big time offers though from companies in those states on the top ten "good places", and I've turned them down every time to stay here.
The air and water's cleaner, there's more parks and recreation than most places I've been, the extensive mass transit system saves me a bundle in auto costs, the property costs are way lower, and I've just kept getting jobs here that pay better than the average rate.
Nowhere else really has ever come close, at least not for me.
As for those spots on the worst list, with the exception of Boston and SF, I've replied to recruiters while laughing out loud at my effort to remain serious and not snide.
When I say "If I know anyone who might be interested, I'll definitely send them on to you", in the back of my head, I'm thinking about any co-worker who's ever really pissed me off over the years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442723</id>
	<title>Re:No way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245785880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep....and the bears here love to dine on nice plump tender IT folk.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep....and the bears here love to dine on nice plump tender IT folk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep....and the bears here love to dine on nice plump tender IT folk.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441553</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245782040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The 'number of jobs on dice' metric is worthless when you are comparing a town of 50,000 to a city of 5 million.</p><p>This is just filler, some jackoff sounding off.  These are probably cities he couldn't get a date in, or was beat up in, or maybe ate a bad taco.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The 'number of jobs on dice ' metric is worthless when you are comparing a town of 50,000 to a city of 5 million.This is just filler , some jackoff sounding off .
These are probably cities he could n't get a date in , or was beat up in , or maybe ate a bad taco .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The 'number of jobs on dice' metric is worthless when you are comparing a town of 50,000 to a city of 5 million.This is just filler, some jackoff sounding off.
These are probably cities he couldn't get a date in, or was beat up in, or maybe ate a bad taco.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440359</id>
	<title>Funny to say the least.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245777720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As an IT professional in Orlando #7 on the list, I can say there are plenty of IT jobs here, just maybe not at this very moment.  Housing is cheap, temp is HOT HOT, and the pay scale for IT who knows their shit is high.  That's why I moved here a few years ago, to get paid what I'm worth and spend less to live.  Viva la Florida!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As an IT professional in Orlando # 7 on the list , I can say there are plenty of IT jobs here , just maybe not at this very moment .
Housing is cheap , temp is HOT HOT , and the pay scale for IT who knows their shit is high .
That 's why I moved here a few years ago , to get paid what I 'm worth and spend less to live .
Viva la Florida !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As an IT professional in Orlando #7 on the list, I can say there are plenty of IT jobs here, just maybe not at this very moment.
Housing is cheap, temp is HOT HOT, and the pay scale for IT who knows their shit is high.
That's why I moved here a few years ago, to get paid what I'm worth and spend less to live.
Viva la Florida!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28446605</id>
	<title>Washington DC, Beltway and Beyond</title>
	<author>DynaSoar</author>
	<datestamp>1245757140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Way too crowded. Commuting is a full time job with the stress level of combat aircraft flying. I suspect the Metro has saved many people from stress related illnesses and deaths.</p><p>Way too much poverty and crime way too close to everything else. Not knocking those directly affected, but it warps the brains of others. I did research at NIH. I had to travel across town to the VA hospital, through a very nasty part of town. I had no problems with the locals, but I did get accosted by one of DC's finest in a Metro station. He wanted to know when was the last time I sold heroin. No apology when he found out the truth.</p><p>Way too expensive. Way way way. You could draw a series of concentric circles around DC by mapping how much the price of specific items is inflated. Buying stuff downtown is like buying it in an airport. If you're lucky you'll land a job that gives cost of living pay and other perks to offset the costs. I got an additional 70\% on top of my NIH salary for cost of living, per diem, free Metro tickets, etc. But don't expect that for a regular IT job outside federal service.</p><p>Way too rude. Whether in the grocery store, at the gas station, in the mall, or anywhere, people are so self absorbed that they'll block your path and not move, or plow right through you, as if you aren't even there. For every apology I heard there, I saw 20 faces with eyes staring ahead and refusing to acknowledge others so strenuously that they didn't even blink as they sailed by.</p><p>Worst, those who IT serves tend to be so much more full of themselves than elsewhere that they treat any kind of support staff as second class denizens with horrible disfiguring contagious diseases. Within IT staffs (staves?) things seemed pretty peachy (I wasn't one, but I hung with them, and my wife was one of them). But the ungrateful goobs that munged their inbox by not deleting or archiving anything seemed to delight in trying to blame the IT people as well as trying to make it clear who was servant and who was served.</p><p>Up sides: Metro (yeah, they had an accident. Check their incident per million passenger mile figures). Bethesda restaurants: more different nationalities and cultures represented in food in venues large and small. Always spendy, usually worth it, often more interesting and real atmosphere (as opposed to contrived) than most anywhere else.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Way too crowded .
Commuting is a full time job with the stress level of combat aircraft flying .
I suspect the Metro has saved many people from stress related illnesses and deaths.Way too much poverty and crime way too close to everything else .
Not knocking those directly affected , but it warps the brains of others .
I did research at NIH .
I had to travel across town to the VA hospital , through a very nasty part of town .
I had no problems with the locals , but I did get accosted by one of DC 's finest in a Metro station .
He wanted to know when was the last time I sold heroin .
No apology when he found out the truth.Way too expensive .
Way way way .
You could draw a series of concentric circles around DC by mapping how much the price of specific items is inflated .
Buying stuff downtown is like buying it in an airport .
If you 're lucky you 'll land a job that gives cost of living pay and other perks to offset the costs .
I got an additional 70 \ % on top of my NIH salary for cost of living , per diem , free Metro tickets , etc .
But do n't expect that for a regular IT job outside federal service.Way too rude .
Whether in the grocery store , at the gas station , in the mall , or anywhere , people are so self absorbed that they 'll block your path and not move , or plow right through you , as if you are n't even there .
For every apology I heard there , I saw 20 faces with eyes staring ahead and refusing to acknowledge others so strenuously that they did n't even blink as they sailed by.Worst , those who IT serves tend to be so much more full of themselves than elsewhere that they treat any kind of support staff as second class denizens with horrible disfiguring contagious diseases .
Within IT staffs ( staves ?
) things seemed pretty peachy ( I was n't one , but I hung with them , and my wife was one of them ) .
But the ungrateful goobs that munged their inbox by not deleting or archiving anything seemed to delight in trying to blame the IT people as well as trying to make it clear who was servant and who was served.Up sides : Metro ( yeah , they had an accident .
Check their incident per million passenger mile figures ) .
Bethesda restaurants : more different nationalities and cultures represented in food in venues large and small .
Always spendy , usually worth it , often more interesting and real atmosphere ( as opposed to contrived ) than most anywhere else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Way too crowded.
Commuting is a full time job with the stress level of combat aircraft flying.
I suspect the Metro has saved many people from stress related illnesses and deaths.Way too much poverty and crime way too close to everything else.
Not knocking those directly affected, but it warps the brains of others.
I did research at NIH.
I had to travel across town to the VA hospital, through a very nasty part of town.
I had no problems with the locals, but I did get accosted by one of DC's finest in a Metro station.
He wanted to know when was the last time I sold heroin.
No apology when he found out the truth.Way too expensive.
Way way way.
You could draw a series of concentric circles around DC by mapping how much the price of specific items is inflated.
Buying stuff downtown is like buying it in an airport.
If you're lucky you'll land a job that gives cost of living pay and other perks to offset the costs.
I got an additional 70\% on top of my NIH salary for cost of living, per diem, free Metro tickets, etc.
But don't expect that for a regular IT job outside federal service.Way too rude.
Whether in the grocery store, at the gas station, in the mall, or anywhere, people are so self absorbed that they'll block your path and not move, or plow right through you, as if you aren't even there.
For every apology I heard there, I saw 20 faces with eyes staring ahead and refusing to acknowledge others so strenuously that they didn't even blink as they sailed by.Worst, those who IT serves tend to be so much more full of themselves than elsewhere that they treat any kind of support staff as second class denizens with horrible disfiguring contagious diseases.
Within IT staffs (staves?
) things seemed pretty peachy (I wasn't one, but I hung with them, and my wife was one of them).
But the ungrateful goobs that munged their inbox by not deleting or archiving anything seemed to delight in trying to blame the IT people as well as trying to make it clear who was servant and who was served.Up sides: Metro (yeah, they had an accident.
Check their incident per million passenger mile figures).
Bethesda restaurants: more different nationalities and cultures represented in food in venues large and small.
Always spendy, usually worth it, often more interesting and real atmosphere (as opposed to contrived) than most anywhere else.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440967</id>
	<title>Re:The complete list</title>
	<author>sanosuke001</author>
	<datestamp>1245779880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can attest to Syracuse, NY. I live there and I had to take a job in Rome/Utica, NY (~hour drive away). I graduated college in nov. 07 with a BS in CS from the Rochester Institute of Technology. I got a part-time tech support job starting in jan 08. a full time web dev job in utica in april 08. then moved to software dev at Griffiss AFB in april 09. Unfortunately, Rome is a pretty crappy city so I'm commuting<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:/</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can attest to Syracuse , NY .
I live there and I had to take a job in Rome/Utica , NY ( ~ hour drive away ) .
I graduated college in nov. 07 with a BS in CS from the Rochester Institute of Technology .
I got a part-time tech support job starting in jan 08. a full time web dev job in utica in april 08. then moved to software dev at Griffiss AFB in april 09 .
Unfortunately , Rome is a pretty crappy city so I 'm commuting : /</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can attest to Syracuse, NY.
I live there and I had to take a job in Rome/Utica, NY (~hour drive away).
I graduated college in nov. 07 with a BS in CS from the Rochester Institute of Technology.
I got a part-time tech support job starting in jan 08. a full time web dev job in utica in april 08. then moved to software dev at Griffiss AFB in april 09.
Unfortunately, Rome is a pretty crappy city so I'm commuting :/</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442963</id>
	<title>Re:Orlando</title>
	<author>idiotnot</author>
	<datestamp>1245786780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The IT program at the local university (UCF) isn't bad, and is very tech-worker-friendly with its online options. Many of the local community colleges even offer certification programs (such as A+, CCNA, Oracle, and even RedHat) in both day and night school.</i></p><p>UCF (and the Orlando area) are also hotbeds of modeling and simulation work.  Probably not of much interest to someone who wants to fix people's "broken Outlook" for life, but definitely some interesting work to be had.</p><p>And the last time I was in Orlando, it was cold (upper 30s).  Of course, it was in the teens where I live, but that's beside the point.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The IT program at the local university ( UCF ) is n't bad , and is very tech-worker-friendly with its online options .
Many of the local community colleges even offer certification programs ( such as A + , CCNA , Oracle , and even RedHat ) in both day and night school.UCF ( and the Orlando area ) are also hotbeds of modeling and simulation work .
Probably not of much interest to someone who wants to fix people 's " broken Outlook " for life , but definitely some interesting work to be had.And the last time I was in Orlando , it was cold ( upper 30s ) .
Of course , it was in the teens where I live , but that 's beside the point .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The IT program at the local university (UCF) isn't bad, and is very tech-worker-friendly with its online options.
Many of the local community colleges even offer certification programs (such as A+, CCNA, Oracle, and even RedHat) in both day and night school.UCF (and the Orlando area) are also hotbeds of modeling and simulation work.
Probably not of much interest to someone who wants to fix people's "broken Outlook" for life, but definitely some interesting work to be had.And the last time I was in Orlando, it was cold (upper 30s).
Of course, it was in the teens where I live, but that's beside the point.
:-)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28445455</id>
	<title>Re:No way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245752100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There aren't any good IT jobs in Anchorage, and there are essentially none in Fairbanks and Juneau. The few that exist are all either government or oil, and both are hellish environments. Pay is substandard despite higher cost of living, and there are unofficial caps beyond which the oil companies don't think IT is worth paying for. There are some small independent contractors, but they're run by locals and mostly hire locals who are going to be more reliable over the long term, since Outsiders tend to freak out after a few years and run away. There are a couple of jobs with some banks and the local newspaper. They get advertised every six months or so. From that you can draw your own conclusions about retention rates.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are n't any good IT jobs in Anchorage , and there are essentially none in Fairbanks and Juneau .
The few that exist are all either government or oil , and both are hellish environments .
Pay is substandard despite higher cost of living , and there are unofficial caps beyond which the oil companies do n't think IT is worth paying for .
There are some small independent contractors , but they 're run by locals and mostly hire locals who are going to be more reliable over the long term , since Outsiders tend to freak out after a few years and run away .
There are a couple of jobs with some banks and the local newspaper .
They get advertised every six months or so .
From that you can draw your own conclusions about retention rates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There aren't any good IT jobs in Anchorage, and there are essentially none in Fairbanks and Juneau.
The few that exist are all either government or oil, and both are hellish environments.
Pay is substandard despite higher cost of living, and there are unofficial caps beyond which the oil companies don't think IT is worth paying for.
There are some small independent contractors, but they're run by locals and mostly hire locals who are going to be more reliable over the long term, since Outsiders tend to freak out after a few years and run away.
There are a couple of jobs with some banks and the local newspaper.
They get advertised every six months or so.
From that you can draw your own conclusions about retention rates.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440669</id>
	<title>LAZY!</title>
	<author>The Yuckinator</author>
	<datestamp>1245778800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did I miss it?  When did the "top ten" list get watered down to "top seven"?    Too lazy to dig up three more crappy towns?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did I miss it ?
When did the " top ten " list get watered down to " top seven " ?
Too lazy to dig up three more crappy towns ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did I miss it?
When did the "top ten" list get watered down to "top seven"?
Too lazy to dig up three more crappy towns?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28447177</id>
	<title>San Francisco inclussion</title>
	<author>guacamole</author>
	<datestamp>1245760140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The inclusion of San Francisco was stupid. IT jobs are relatively plentiful and if you work in IT, you will afford to live in San Francisco. Moreover, who says you have to live in San Francisco to work there? There are plenty of commute possibilities. Live elsewhere in the peninsula, East Bay (Berkeley, Oakland, etc), Marin County, etc.. Yes, life is expensive, but also very cool. The reverse is also possible (some people who live in San Francisco work in east bay, etc).</p><p>It's just mind numbing how could one possibly put San Francisco on the same list with those truly depressing rust-belt cities.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The inclusion of San Francisco was stupid .
IT jobs are relatively plentiful and if you work in IT , you will afford to live in San Francisco .
Moreover , who says you have to live in San Francisco to work there ?
There are plenty of commute possibilities .
Live elsewhere in the peninsula , East Bay ( Berkeley , Oakland , etc ) , Marin County , etc.. Yes , life is expensive , but also very cool .
The reverse is also possible ( some people who live in San Francisco work in east bay , etc ) .It 's just mind numbing how could one possibly put San Francisco on the same list with those truly depressing rust-belt cities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The inclusion of San Francisco was stupid.
IT jobs are relatively plentiful and if you work in IT, you will afford to live in San Francisco.
Moreover, who says you have to live in San Francisco to work there?
There are plenty of commute possibilities.
Live elsewhere in the peninsula, East Bay (Berkeley, Oakland, etc), Marin County, etc.. Yes, life is expensive, but also very cool.
The reverse is also possible (some people who live in San Francisco work in east bay, etc).It's just mind numbing how could one possibly put San Francisco on the same list with those truly depressing rust-belt cities.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442401</id>
	<title>Re:Urban jungles</title>
	<author>Average</author>
	<datestamp>1245784740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm certainly a smaller town person at heart.  Any smaller town of decent size has some IT jobs (hospital, school district, governments, whatever the major employers are).</p><p>The problem is that there isn't some vast pool of IT jobs available.  You can't necessarily get exactly what you want, and if you do go unemployed for a while, there may not be an IT job at all for a while.  Oh, yeah, and the pay is crap compared to big city wages.</p><p>On the flip side, houses in some smaller towns are coastal-jaw-droppingly cheap (quite functional houses go for $50k, sometimes less, in my part of Kansas).</p><p>With the low cost of living, if you save up well in the good years, you can live on near-minimum-wage jobs for a year or two looking for the next rare opportunity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm certainly a smaller town person at heart .
Any smaller town of decent size has some IT jobs ( hospital , school district , governments , whatever the major employers are ) .The problem is that there is n't some vast pool of IT jobs available .
You ca n't necessarily get exactly what you want , and if you do go unemployed for a while , there may not be an IT job at all for a while .
Oh , yeah , and the pay is crap compared to big city wages.On the flip side , houses in some smaller towns are coastal-jaw-droppingly cheap ( quite functional houses go for $ 50k , sometimes less , in my part of Kansas ) .With the low cost of living , if you save up well in the good years , you can live on near-minimum-wage jobs for a year or two looking for the next rare opportunity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm certainly a smaller town person at heart.
Any smaller town of decent size has some IT jobs (hospital, school district, governments, whatever the major employers are).The problem is that there isn't some vast pool of IT jobs available.
You can't necessarily get exactly what you want, and if you do go unemployed for a while, there may not be an IT job at all for a while.
Oh, yeah, and the pay is crap compared to big city wages.On the flip side, houses in some smaller towns are coastal-jaw-droppingly cheap (quite functional houses go for $50k, sometimes less, in my part of Kansas).With the low cost of living, if you save up well in the good years, you can live on near-minimum-wage jobs for a year or two looking for the next rare opportunity.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28441709</id>
	<title>They forgot ...</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1245782520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... Redmond, WA.
</p><p>Yeah, mark this as flamebait. But sometimes its not about <b>how many</b> jobs are  available, its about the quality of the work. I don't see anything attractive about a career that involves having to clean up after the 800 pound gorilla.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... Redmond , WA .
Yeah , mark this as flamebait .
But sometimes its not about how many jobs are available , its about the quality of the work .
I do n't see anything attractive about a career that involves having to clean up after the 800 pound gorilla .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... Redmond, WA.
Yeah, mark this as flamebait.
But sometimes its not about how many jobs are  available, its about the quality of the work.
I don't see anything attractive about a career that involves having to clean up after the 800 pound gorilla.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440731</id>
	<title>In this economy any IT job is a good job</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245779040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
In this economy, any IT job is a good job.
</p><p>
Of everyone who was in my circle of friends working in the IT and computer industry in the mid-to-late 1990s, the only people who have jobs today are in middle management.  Not one non-manager I knew back then and know today is working today in the tech industry.
</p><p>
I became an ex-pat, teaching English, translating documents, and helping with the Windows machines in an accounting office in Mexico.  I would like to return, but there are just no jobs stateside where I want to live right now.
</p><p>
One friend saved enough money to semi-retire; he, right now, is living with his family to minimize expenses and off of savings.  He's not really sure he even wants to return to the industry; the last job he had a couple of years ago left him really burnt out.
</p><p>
Another friend lost his job at a video game company in the late 1990s.  He never got hired in the tech industry again, and is currently living off of a military disability pension, paying his debts and planning on returning to college.
</p><p>
These are my luckier friends.  Two friends, who have families to raise, both very recently lost jobs in the tech industry and have no idea when they will get work again.  One is living off of savings and is really scared when he will get a job again.  Another didn't have as much savings, had to leave the apartment he was leasing, and is currently shacked up with a buddy who lets him sleep in the extra bedroom in exchange for computer help; his wife and kids are living with their family.
</p><p>
I am sure either one of these guys would accept a job in Cleveland or Alabama or anywhere else where the company is willing to pay them enough to support their family.
</p><p>
It's a really scary time to work in the tech industry.  If you have a job, and it pays enough to support your family, thank the lucky stars you're still working.  Not everyone is as lucky as you right now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In this economy , any IT job is a good job .
Of everyone who was in my circle of friends working in the IT and computer industry in the mid-to-late 1990s , the only people who have jobs today are in middle management .
Not one non-manager I knew back then and know today is working today in the tech industry .
I became an ex-pat , teaching English , translating documents , and helping with the Windows machines in an accounting office in Mexico .
I would like to return , but there are just no jobs stateside where I want to live right now .
One friend saved enough money to semi-retire ; he , right now , is living with his family to minimize expenses and off of savings .
He 's not really sure he even wants to return to the industry ; the last job he had a couple of years ago left him really burnt out .
Another friend lost his job at a video game company in the late 1990s .
He never got hired in the tech industry again , and is currently living off of a military disability pension , paying his debts and planning on returning to college .
These are my luckier friends .
Two friends , who have families to raise , both very recently lost jobs in the tech industry and have no idea when they will get work again .
One is living off of savings and is really scared when he will get a job again .
Another did n't have as much savings , had to leave the apartment he was leasing , and is currently shacked up with a buddy who lets him sleep in the extra bedroom in exchange for computer help ; his wife and kids are living with their family .
I am sure either one of these guys would accept a job in Cleveland or Alabama or anywhere else where the company is willing to pay them enough to support their family .
It 's a really scary time to work in the tech industry .
If you have a job , and it pays enough to support your family , thank the lucky stars you 're still working .
Not everyone is as lucky as you right now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
In this economy, any IT job is a good job.
Of everyone who was in my circle of friends working in the IT and computer industry in the mid-to-late 1990s, the only people who have jobs today are in middle management.
Not one non-manager I knew back then and know today is working today in the tech industry.
I became an ex-pat, teaching English, translating documents, and helping with the Windows machines in an accounting office in Mexico.
I would like to return, but there are just no jobs stateside where I want to live right now.
One friend saved enough money to semi-retire; he, right now, is living with his family to minimize expenses and off of savings.
He's not really sure he even wants to return to the industry; the last job he had a couple of years ago left him really burnt out.
Another friend lost his job at a video game company in the late 1990s.
He never got hired in the tech industry again, and is currently living off of a military disability pension, paying his debts and planning on returning to college.
These are my luckier friends.
Two friends, who have families to raise, both very recently lost jobs in the tech industry and have no idea when they will get work again.
One is living off of savings and is really scared when he will get a job again.
Another didn't have as much savings, had to leave the apartment he was leasing, and is currently shacked up with a buddy who lets him sleep in the extra bedroom in exchange for computer help; his wife and kids are living with their family.
I am sure either one of these guys would accept a job in Cleveland or Alabama or anywhere else where the company is willing to pay them enough to support their family.
It's a really scary time to work in the tech industry.
If you have a job, and it pays enough to support your family, thank the lucky stars you're still working.
Not everyone is as lucky as you right now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442165</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>MozeeToby</author>
	<datestamp>1245783960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Madison WI.  No, seriously.  Huge 'university culture', lots of middle/big town conveniences, a liberal city/county government and a moderate state government.  I don't know about the broadband situation but I would imagine that with the number of students and young IT people in the area it's probably above average.  I don't know what you call 'low' sales tax, but the state rate is 5\%.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Madison WI .
No , seriously .
Huge 'university culture ' , lots of middle/big town conveniences , a liberal city/county government and a moderate state government .
I do n't know about the broadband situation but I would imagine that with the number of students and young IT people in the area it 's probably above average .
I do n't know what you call 'low ' sales tax , but the state rate is 5 \ % .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Madison WI.
No, seriously.
Huge 'university culture', lots of middle/big town conveniences, a liberal city/county government and a moderate state government.
I don't know about the broadband situation but I would imagine that with the number of students and young IT people in the area it's probably above average.
I don't know what you call 'low' sales tax, but the state rate is 5\%.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28440139</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, Detroit isn't that bad.</title>
	<author>Jake Griffin</author>
	<datestamp>1245776880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow... I'm from Detroit and I laughed so hard when I read that. When people ask me what I thought about my time there I always tell them that "Detroit is a great place to be" then pause a minute and add "from."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow... I 'm from Detroit and I laughed so hard when I read that .
When people ask me what I thought about my time there I always tell them that " Detroit is a great place to be " then pause a minute and add " from .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow... I'm from Detroit and I laughed so hard when I read that.
When people ask me what I thought about my time there I always tell them that "Detroit is a great place to be" then pause a minute and add "from.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28448439</id>
	<title>Re:Upstate New York Isn't That Bad...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245771720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and after the short winter season (only about 3 months in reality)</p><p>Only about 3 months of winter? HA! You, sir, are clearly not from Syracuse.</p><p>Syracuse, NY = 5.5 months of winter + 2 weeks of mud/spring + 3 months humidity/summer + 3 months autumn</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; ... and after the short winter season ( only about 3 months in reality ) Only about 3 months of winter ?
HA ! You , sir , are clearly not from Syracuse.Syracuse , NY = 5.5 months of winter + 2 weeks of mud/spring + 3 months humidity/summer + 3 months autumn</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; ... and after the short winter season (only about 3 months in reality)Only about 3 months of winter?
HA! You, sir, are clearly not from Syracuse.Syracuse, NY = 5.5 months of winter + 2 weeks of mud/spring + 3 months humidity/summer + 3 months autumn</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_23_1538216.28442019</id>
	<title>Job numbers on Dice are misleading</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245783420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For every real job, there's often half a dozen or more recruiters vying to place a candidate, and putting their own, somewhat re-worded, posting in Dice, Monster, and other places.  So the numbers can be very inflated.  OTOH, maybe this will make employers panic and decide they need to start hiring now to get the good people before they are all re-employed (they know the good people will get jobs sooner<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... it's kind of like seeing prices moving back up and everyone hurries to buy while they are still kind of low).</p><p>One issue to remember with recruiters is this.  They often don't tell you who their client (the employer) is.  And most employers have policies brought forth from the legal department to never hire a candidate when two or more recruiters submit the same one.  You could be shut out of a job and you (and even the recruiters) never know why, because of how the recruiters behave.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For every real job , there 's often half a dozen or more recruiters vying to place a candidate , and putting their own , somewhat re-worded , posting in Dice , Monster , and other places .
So the numbers can be very inflated .
OTOH , maybe this will make employers panic and decide they need to start hiring now to get the good people before they are all re-employed ( they know the good people will get jobs sooner ... it 's kind of like seeing prices moving back up and everyone hurries to buy while they are still kind of low ) .One issue to remember with recruiters is this .
They often do n't tell you who their client ( the employer ) is .
And most employers have policies brought forth from the legal department to never hire a candidate when two or more recruiters submit the same one .
You could be shut out of a job and you ( and even the recruiters ) never know why , because of how the recruiters behave .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For every real job, there's often half a dozen or more recruiters vying to place a candidate, and putting their own, somewhat re-worded, posting in Dice, Monster, and other places.
So the numbers can be very inflated.
OTOH, maybe this will make employers panic and decide they need to start hiring now to get the good people before they are all re-employed (they know the good people will get jobs sooner ... it's kind of like seeing prices moving back up and everyone hurries to buy while they are still kind of low).One issue to remember with recruiters is this.
They often don't tell you who their client (the employer) is.
And most employers have policies brought forth from the legal department to never hire a candidate when two or more recruiters submit the same one.
You could be shut out of a job and you (and even the recruiters) never know why, because of how the recruiters behave.</sentencetext>
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