<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_19_1737207</id>
	<title>Man Attacked In Ohio For Providing Iran Proxies</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1245399480000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>David Hume writes <i>"electronicmaji is reporting on the Daily Kos that the individual known as <a href="http://emsenn.com/iran.php">ProtesterHelp</a> (<a href="https://twitter.com/ProtesterHelp">also to be found on  twitter</a>) was <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/6/18/743695/-Early-Report-Day-6:-Violence-hits-the-homeland,-ProtesterHelp-attacked-in-Ohio-for-providing-proxys.">attacked in Ohio</a> for providing network security for Twitterers in Iran, setting up private networks to provide secure proxies, calling for media networks to remove the Iranians Twitterers' information from their broadcast, and providing counter-intelligence services (including Basiji and Army Locations) within the Twitter community.  ProtesterHelp was allegedly attacked by a group of men while walking to class in Ohio.  The men, who appeared to ProtesterHelp to be either Iranian or Lebanese, drove up beside him and threw rocks at him while shouting, 'Mousavi Fraud.'  ProtesterHelp further reported that his personal information has been leaked, and is currently being spread both online and inside of Iran amongst the government."</i>  Relatedly, Wired is also reporting that Google and Facebook have <a href="http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/06/facebook-google-go-persian-helping-irans-activists/">rushed out support for Persian</a>.  This move has allowed many pro-democracy groups to connect and translate their message to a broader audience.</htmltext>
<tokenext>David Hume writes " electronicmaji is reporting on the Daily Kos that the individual known as ProtesterHelp ( also to be found on twitter ) was attacked in Ohio for providing network security for Twitterers in Iran , setting up private networks to provide secure proxies , calling for media networks to remove the Iranians Twitterers ' information from their broadcast , and providing counter-intelligence services ( including Basiji and Army Locations ) within the Twitter community .
ProtesterHelp was allegedly attacked by a group of men while walking to class in Ohio .
The men , who appeared to ProtesterHelp to be either Iranian or Lebanese , drove up beside him and threw rocks at him while shouting , 'Mousavi Fraud .
' ProtesterHelp further reported that his personal information has been leaked , and is currently being spread both online and inside of Iran amongst the government .
" Relatedly , Wired is also reporting that Google and Facebook have rushed out support for Persian .
This move has allowed many pro-democracy groups to connect and translate their message to a broader audience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>David Hume writes "electronicmaji is reporting on the Daily Kos that the individual known as ProtesterHelp (also to be found on  twitter) was attacked in Ohio for providing network security for Twitterers in Iran, setting up private networks to provide secure proxies, calling for media networks to remove the Iranians Twitterers' information from their broadcast, and providing counter-intelligence services (including Basiji and Army Locations) within the Twitter community.
ProtesterHelp was allegedly attacked by a group of men while walking to class in Ohio.
The men, who appeared to ProtesterHelp to be either Iranian or Lebanese, drove up beside him and threw rocks at him while shouting, 'Mousavi Fraud.
'  ProtesterHelp further reported that his personal information has been leaked, and is currently being spread both online and inside of Iran amongst the government.
"  Relatedly, Wired is also reporting that Google and Facebook have rushed out support for Persian.
This move has allowed many pro-democracy groups to connect and translate their message to a broader audience.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28431607</id>
	<title>Fake Black Propaganda</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245674700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So fake propaganda about attacks on "freedom".</p><p>Actually the Iranian Revolutionary Guards gave Al Gore money to contest the 2000 election but it was totally a FAIL as the US population wanted to turn into right wing fascists.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So fake propaganda about attacks on " freedom " .Actually the Iranian Revolutionary Guards gave Al Gore money to contest the 2000 election but it was totally a FAIL as the US population wanted to turn into right wing fascists .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So fake propaganda about attacks on "freedom".Actually the Iranian Revolutionary Guards gave Al Gore money to contest the 2000 election but it was totally a FAIL as the US population wanted to turn into right wing fascists.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28400253</id>
	<title>Re:It will be ugly</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245492120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everyone must rush out to support the US-funded ($400M by Bush), CIA-organised colour-coded revolution in Iran - Iranian oil deserves democracy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone must rush out to support the US-funded ( $ 400M by Bush ) , CIA-organised colour-coded revolution in Iran - Iranian oil deserves democracy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone must rush out to support the US-funded ($400M by Bush), CIA-organised colour-coded revolution in Iran - Iranian oil deserves democracy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395091</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28398163</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>piemcfly</author>
	<datestamp>1245420720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is definitely great to see how so many ordinary people are aiding in this effort. It's pretty amazing to see how a wide variety of individuals are coming together to provide other people with the means to create a sense of information freedom.

People sometimes complain about the way in which people are disinterested in their power as democratic civilians... but this whole situation proves the opposite. So many people are providing help or at least vocal support to what's happening in Iran, and most of it is utterly disconnected from governmental systems.

Truly a civil society affair. Political scholars interested in discourse analysis and media studies are jumping up and down right now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is definitely great to see how so many ordinary people are aiding in this effort .
It 's pretty amazing to see how a wide variety of individuals are coming together to provide other people with the means to create a sense of information freedom .
People sometimes complain about the way in which people are disinterested in their power as democratic civilians... but this whole situation proves the opposite .
So many people are providing help or at least vocal support to what 's happening in Iran , and most of it is utterly disconnected from governmental systems .
Truly a civil society affair .
Political scholars interested in discourse analysis and media studies are jumping up and down right now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is definitely great to see how so many ordinary people are aiding in this effort.
It's pretty amazing to see how a wide variety of individuals are coming together to provide other people with the means to create a sense of information freedom.
People sometimes complain about the way in which people are disinterested in their power as democratic civilians... but this whole situation proves the opposite.
So many people are providing help or at least vocal support to what's happening in Iran, and most of it is utterly disconnected from governmental systems.
Truly a civil society affair.
Political scholars interested in discourse analysis and media studies are jumping up and down right now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395391</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396527</id>
	<title>Re:Lock and Load.</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1245409560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Right because one guy with a handgun is certainly going to stop 6 guys in a van.  Hope he doesn't miss too many times, just gotta get head shots on all of them, sure no problem.</p><p>Never owned a gun or shot a gun I take it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right because one guy with a handgun is certainly going to stop 6 guys in a van .
Hope he does n't miss too many times , just got ta get head shots on all of them , sure no problem.Never owned a gun or shot a gun I take it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right because one guy with a handgun is certainly going to stop 6 guys in a van.
Hope he doesn't miss too many times, just gotta get head shots on all of them, sure no problem.Never owned a gun or shot a gun I take it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395453</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395457</id>
	<title>I also remember a woman who said she was raped...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245404640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and blamed it on a White man. Al Sharpton even got in on it, and never apologized for it after it was proved false. So then, what was your point?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and blamed it on a White man .
Al Sharpton even got in on it , and never apologized for it after it was proved false .
So then , what was your point ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and blamed it on a White man.
Al Sharpton even got in on it, and never apologized for it after it was proved false.
So then, what was your point?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395237</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395285</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245403980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's clearly a terrorist attack.  We should liberate Iran.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's clearly a terrorist attack .
We should liberate Iran .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's clearly a terrorist attack.
We should liberate Iran.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395077</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28400433</id>
	<title>This iran election is no more fraud</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245494880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>than the 2000 elections were.</p><p>We didn't see the EU tell the US to do it all over again and this time vote for the right person.</p><p>With the huge cockups the US have managed, the vote rigging that is STILL being found in the US and the US's past history of removing the democratically elected leader (from a fair and honest election) to place a despotic leader in who likes the US means that the US MUST and I mean ***MUST*** keep it's big fat gob shut.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>than the 2000 elections were.We did n't see the EU tell the US to do it all over again and this time vote for the right person.With the huge cockups the US have managed , the vote rigging that is STILL being found in the US and the US 's past history of removing the democratically elected leader ( from a fair and honest election ) to place a despotic leader in who likes the US means that the US MUST and I mean * * * MUST * * * keep it 's big fat gob shut .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>than the 2000 elections were.We didn't see the EU tell the US to do it all over again and this time vote for the right person.With the huge cockups the US have managed, the vote rigging that is STILL being found in the US and the US's past history of removing the democratically elected leader (from a fair and honest election) to place a despotic leader in who likes the US means that the US MUST and I mean ***MUST*** keep it's big fat gob shut.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395345</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395193</id>
	<title>Re:wonder how he could have protected himself?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245403740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And he'd probably been shot instead...</p><p>Not out of anger, like now, but out of fear that he's probably to open fire on themselves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And he 'd probably been shot instead...Not out of anger , like now , but out of fear that he 's probably to open fire on themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And he'd probably been shot instead...Not out of anger, like now, but out of fear that he's probably to open fire on themselves.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395121</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28398251</id>
	<title>Re:Don't believe this blogger</title>
	<author>glitch23</author>
	<datestamp>1245421560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>a religion of peace</p></div></div><p><div class="quote"><p>There is no such thing.</p></div><p>Yes there is. You just have to remember that the actions of the few do not necessarily represent the beliefs of the many. In the case of radicals, by definitions they do not represent the beliefs of the many.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>a religion of peaceThere is no such thing.Yes there is .
You just have to remember that the actions of the few do not necessarily represent the beliefs of the many .
In the case of radicals , by definitions they do not represent the beliefs of the many .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a religion of peaceThere is no such thing.Yes there is.
You just have to remember that the actions of the few do not necessarily represent the beliefs of the many.
In the case of radicals, by definitions they do not represent the beliefs of the many.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395405</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28398803</id>
	<title>Re:No, this stops</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245427800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On what types of connection is it safe to run Tor relays? Apparently it's against Comcast's terms of service.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On what types of connection is it safe to run Tor relays ?
Apparently it 's against Comcast 's terms of service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On what types of connection is it safe to run Tor relays?
Apparently it's against Comcast's terms of service.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395463</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395237</id>
	<title>skeptical</title>
	<author>ceejayoz</author>
	<datestamp>1245403860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone remember the nutjob who carved a backwards B into her face and blamed it on a black man?</p><p>I'm very skeptical of this without corroboration.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone remember the nutjob who carved a backwards B into her face and blamed it on a black man ? I 'm very skeptical of this without corroboration .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone remember the nutjob who carved a backwards B into her face and blamed it on a black man?I'm very skeptical of this without corroboration.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396623</id>
	<title>John Douglas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245410040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We have a true "Enemy Within" in this country.  Really frightening if you ask me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We have a true " Enemy Within " in this country .
Really frightening if you ask me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We have a true "Enemy Within" in this country.
Really frightening if you ask me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28401313</id>
	<title>Re:Lock and Load.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245508560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> In real life we use body armor and small arms.</p></div><p>Perhaps you need to get to the gym more often and address that 'small arm' issue...?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In real life we use body armor and small arms.Perhaps you need to get to the gym more often and address that 'small arm ' issue... ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> In real life we use body armor and small arms.Perhaps you need to get to the gym more often and address that 'small arm' issue...?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395453</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395409</id>
	<title>Re:Do this stuff ANONYMOUSLY as possible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245404460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately, now that we all know you're going to do it, you can't do it without them knowing!  It's all part of a conspiracy to put marmalade in our drinking water.  Crap, I think I hear helicopters coming.  Wait, who is this?  I don't know you!  Prank caller!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , now that we all know you 're going to do it , you ca n't do it without them knowing !
It 's all part of a conspiracy to put marmalade in our drinking water .
Crap , I think I hear helicopters coming .
Wait , who is this ?
I do n't know you !
Prank caller !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, now that we all know you're going to do it, you can't do it without them knowing!
It's all part of a conspiracy to put marmalade in our drinking water.
Crap, I think I hear helicopters coming.
Wait, who is this?
I don't know you!
Prank caller!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395159</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395405</id>
	<title>Re:Don't believe this blogger</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245404460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>a religion of peace</p></div><p>There is no such thing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>a religion of peaceThere is no such thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a religion of peaceThere is no such thing.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395239</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396557</id>
	<title>Re:why the tolerance for TERRORISM on US soil?</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1245409680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What tolerance?  Do you have some sort of documentation that shows this isn't being handled by the police?  Or do you just feel that the scale of the US response isn't proportionate to 'rock throwing'?</p><p>Should we find them and drive over them with tanks then?  Or perhaps nuke them and some other nearby problem countries and turn the birth place of civilization and culture into a big glass parking lot?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What tolerance ?
Do you have some sort of documentation that shows this is n't being handled by the police ?
Or do you just feel that the scale of the US response is n't proportionate to 'rock throwing ' ? Should we find them and drive over them with tanks then ?
Or perhaps nuke them and some other nearby problem countries and turn the birth place of civilization and culture into a big glass parking lot ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What tolerance?
Do you have some sort of documentation that shows this isn't being handled by the police?
Or do you just feel that the scale of the US response isn't proportionate to 'rock throwing'?Should we find them and drive over them with tanks then?
Or perhaps nuke them and some other nearby problem countries and turn the birth place of civilization and culture into a big glass parking lot?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395491</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397777</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245417660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In my home state, attacking someone with a rock has been prosecuted as attack with a deadly weapon.  (Court said use and capability is what determines "deadly force.")  Victim is allowed to use deadly force to defend himself.</p><p>The old west had a saying, "Don't bring a knife to a gun fight."  Nowadays, maybe they should say, "Don't bring rocks to a gun fight."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In my home state , attacking someone with a rock has been prosecuted as attack with a deadly weapon .
( Court said use and capability is what determines " deadly force .
" ) Victim is allowed to use deadly force to defend himself.The old west had a saying , " Do n't bring a knife to a gun fight .
" Nowadays , maybe they should say , " Do n't bring rocks to a gun fight .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In my home state, attacking someone with a rock has been prosecuted as attack with a deadly weapon.
(Court said use and capability is what determines "deadly force.
")  Victim is allowed to use deadly force to defend himself.The old west had a saying, "Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
"  Nowadays, maybe they should say, "Don't bring rocks to a gun fight.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395247</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395747</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>jason.sweet</author>
	<datestamp>1245405840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe you missed, but we have a new administration now.  W is in Dallas pursuing other <a href="http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/George-W-Bush-Hardware-Greeter.html" title="nbcdfw.com" rel="nofollow">opportunities</a> [nbcdfw.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe you missed , but we have a new administration now .
W is in Dallas pursuing other opportunities [ nbcdfw.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe you missed, but we have a new administration now.
W is in Dallas pursuing other opportunities [nbcdfw.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395529</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396887</id>
	<title>Re:Right, that's the only reason</title>
	<author>Patch86</author>
	<datestamp>1245411300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not sure that Presidential interference would be particularly productive. In fact, it's almost certainly counter-productive.</p><p>The main opposition in Iran is doing it's very very hardest to portray itself as again the President, but not against the Supreme Leader or the Islamic Republic itself. All their rivals need is some proof that they're really no-good collaborators with an invasive foreign power, and suddenly the opposition's more moderate supporters back the flip off.</p><p>The Western world needs to do it's absolute best to keep the common people or Iran safe and free, but it can't interfere. This is one of those things that'll need to sort itself. If the best thing we can do is keep avenues of communication open to prevent people being locked down and suppressed, that's what needs to be done.</p><p>Much kudos, incidentally, goes to Google Translate and Facebook for both rushing out Persian language versions of their respective sites.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure that Presidential interference would be particularly productive .
In fact , it 's almost certainly counter-productive.The main opposition in Iran is doing it 's very very hardest to portray itself as again the President , but not against the Supreme Leader or the Islamic Republic itself .
All their rivals need is some proof that they 're really no-good collaborators with an invasive foreign power , and suddenly the opposition 's more moderate supporters back the flip off.The Western world needs to do it 's absolute best to keep the common people or Iran safe and free , but it ca n't interfere .
This is one of those things that 'll need to sort itself .
If the best thing we can do is keep avenues of communication open to prevent people being locked down and suppressed , that 's what needs to be done.Much kudos , incidentally , goes to Google Translate and Facebook for both rushing out Persian language versions of their respective sites .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure that Presidential interference would be particularly productive.
In fact, it's almost certainly counter-productive.The main opposition in Iran is doing it's very very hardest to portray itself as again the President, but not against the Supreme Leader or the Islamic Republic itself.
All their rivals need is some proof that they're really no-good collaborators with an invasive foreign power, and suddenly the opposition's more moderate supporters back the flip off.The Western world needs to do it's absolute best to keep the common people or Iran safe and free, but it can't interfere.
This is one of those things that'll need to sort itself.
If the best thing we can do is keep avenues of communication open to prevent people being locked down and suppressed, that's what needs to be done.Much kudos, incidentally, goes to Google Translate and Facebook for both rushing out Persian language versions of their respective sites.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395335</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245404220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Honestly, I am slightly troubled. I spoke with ProtestorHelp last night on the NetAnon. He was also trying to organize a support structure to help Pakistani refugees. I feel bad for him, he seemed like a swell fellow.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Honestly , I am slightly troubled .
I spoke with ProtestorHelp last night on the NetAnon .
He was also trying to organize a support structure to help Pakistani refugees .
I feel bad for him , he seemed like a swell fellow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Honestly, I am slightly troubled.
I spoke with ProtestorHelp last night on the NetAnon.
He was also trying to organize a support structure to help Pakistani refugees.
I feel bad for him, he seemed like a swell fellow.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395429</id>
	<title>Re:Do this stuff ANONYMOUSLY as possible</title>
	<author>BigSlowTarget</author>
	<datestamp>1245404520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fine.  Tell me how to do it and I'll stick my neck out for you.  I think its worth it.  Again, how is it done?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fine .
Tell me how to do it and I 'll stick my neck out for you .
I think its worth it .
Again , how is it done ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fine.
Tell me how to do it and I'll stick my neck out for you.
I think its worth it.
Again, how is it done?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396875</id>
	<title>Re:surprised they're having this much trouble lock</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245411180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Given that Iran is operating under an authoritarian government, I would have thought that just shutting everything down would be quite possible.</p></div> </blockquote><p>If you think of "authoritarian" and "not-authoritarian" as a binary switch between extremes, and if you assume that an authoritarian government not only is absolutely authoritarian in structure, but also of perfect in loyalty to the leadership and competence, that assumption would be natural.</p><p>Reality doesn't quite work that way, and particularly not in the present situation in Iraq. It probably doesn't help the authoritarians that the "opposition" includes people who are former high ranking government officials with lots of contacts in and through the government at all levels, and that some are, in fact, <i>current</i> senior leaders*. Even authoritarian regimes don't have governments that are from top to bottom composed of mindless drones with unquestioning loyalty to the leader.</p><p>Mousavi was the last Prime Minister of Iraq before the position was abolished in 1989; among others in the opposition, Mohammad Khatami is the most recent former President of Iran, and Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani is Khatami's predecessor as President and, perhaps more importantly, the <i>current</i> chair of the Assembly of Experts (a body whose official duties include supervising, electing, and <i>dismissing</i> the Supreme Leader), and there are others in positions of power that are either aligned with the opposition or, at the least, not committed to backing Khamenei and Ahmadinejad.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Given that Iran is operating under an authoritarian government , I would have thought that just shutting everything down would be quite possible .
If you think of " authoritarian " and " not-authoritarian " as a binary switch between extremes , and if you assume that an authoritarian government not only is absolutely authoritarian in structure , but also of perfect in loyalty to the leadership and competence , that assumption would be natural.Reality does n't quite work that way , and particularly not in the present situation in Iraq .
It probably does n't help the authoritarians that the " opposition " includes people who are former high ranking government officials with lots of contacts in and through the government at all levels , and that some are , in fact , current senior leaders * .
Even authoritarian regimes do n't have governments that are from top to bottom composed of mindless drones with unquestioning loyalty to the leader.Mousavi was the last Prime Minister of Iraq before the position was abolished in 1989 ; among others in the opposition , Mohammad Khatami is the most recent former President of Iran , and Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani is Khatami 's predecessor as President and , perhaps more importantly , the current chair of the Assembly of Experts ( a body whose official duties include supervising , electing , and dismissing the Supreme Leader ) , and there are others in positions of power that are either aligned with the opposition or , at the least , not committed to backing Khamenei and Ahmadinejad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given that Iran is operating under an authoritarian government, I would have thought that just shutting everything down would be quite possible.
If you think of "authoritarian" and "not-authoritarian" as a binary switch between extremes, and if you assume that an authoritarian government not only is absolutely authoritarian in structure, but also of perfect in loyalty to the leadership and competence, that assumption would be natural.Reality doesn't quite work that way, and particularly not in the present situation in Iraq.
It probably doesn't help the authoritarians that the "opposition" includes people who are former high ranking government officials with lots of contacts in and through the government at all levels, and that some are, in fact, current senior leaders*.
Even authoritarian regimes don't have governments that are from top to bottom composed of mindless drones with unquestioning loyalty to the leader.Mousavi was the last Prime Minister of Iraq before the position was abolished in 1989; among others in the opposition, Mohammad Khatami is the most recent former President of Iran, and Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani is Khatami's predecessor as President and, perhaps more importantly, the current chair of the Assembly of Experts (a body whose official duties include supervising, electing, and dismissing the Supreme Leader), and there are others in positions of power that are either aligned with the opposition or, at the least, not committed to backing Khamenei and Ahmadinejad.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395415</id>
	<title>What?!?</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1245404460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google and Facebook are supporting Persian before they release support for Klingon?!? WTF?!? Man, there is one set of geeks with really misplaced priorities!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google and Facebook are supporting Persian before they release support for Klingon ? ! ?
WTF ? ! ? Man , there is one set of geeks with really misplaced priorities !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google and Facebook are supporting Persian before they release support for Klingon?!?
WTF?!? Man, there is one set of geeks with really misplaced priorities!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395391</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>religious freak</author>
	<datestamp>1245404400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>For all the hatred spewed at the direction of the USA, I've got to say there's quite an effort underway by normal citizens to help.  There are people from all over  the world trying to help, but I'd say a good number of them are from the USA.  <br> <br>
I've been lurking around the IRC channels for a few days.  Folks have been working on setting up proxies, and doing what they can to help.  I question whether anything is actually being accomplished, but my hat is off to anyone who is at least <i>trying</i> to help facilitate communication.  Personally, since I'm not a developer, I haven't found too much I can do.  There are more than enough proxies out there at this point...</htmltext>
<tokenext>For all the hatred spewed at the direction of the USA , I 've got to say there 's quite an effort underway by normal citizens to help .
There are people from all over the world trying to help , but I 'd say a good number of them are from the USA .
I 've been lurking around the IRC channels for a few days .
Folks have been working on setting up proxies , and doing what they can to help .
I question whether anything is actually being accomplished , but my hat is off to anyone who is at least trying to help facilitate communication .
Personally , since I 'm not a developer , I have n't found too much I can do .
There are more than enough proxies out there at this point.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For all the hatred spewed at the direction of the USA, I've got to say there's quite an effort underway by normal citizens to help.
There are people from all over  the world trying to help, but I'd say a good number of them are from the USA.
I've been lurking around the IRC channels for a few days.
Folks have been working on setting up proxies, and doing what they can to help.
I question whether anything is actually being accomplished, but my hat is off to anyone who is at least trying to help facilitate communication.
Personally, since I'm not a developer, I haven't found too much I can do.
There are more than enough proxies out there at this point...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397049</id>
	<title>Re:Meddlesome</title>
	<author>Chyeld</author>
	<datestamp>1245412080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the South still had slavery, would you have been one of the folk saying we just let the South get around to freeing the slaves on their own time?</p><p>Sometimes, the folk in power have enough power to ensure the folk who don't (that constitute 99\% of the country) won't ever get a chance to change things.</p><p>I remember Tiananmen Square, and how very very sad I was that the only thing we seemed to be willing to do was watch.</p><p>I'm not saying Iran is in that spot, but I'm sure as hell not going to avoid lending a hand to the ones who want to get the truth out, just because that might cause the world to label us "busibodies".</p><p>PS. People hate the US for all sorts of reasons, but the primary still in this day and age isn't because we were busibodies but because we spent 50 years playing puppet masters who were willing to prop up even the most reprehensible leader of a country if that meant that it wasn't friends with the Soviets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the South still had slavery , would you have been one of the folk saying we just let the South get around to freeing the slaves on their own time ? Sometimes , the folk in power have enough power to ensure the folk who do n't ( that constitute 99 \ % of the country ) wo n't ever get a chance to change things.I remember Tiananmen Square , and how very very sad I was that the only thing we seemed to be willing to do was watch.I 'm not saying Iran is in that spot , but I 'm sure as hell not going to avoid lending a hand to the ones who want to get the truth out , just because that might cause the world to label us " busibodies " .PS .
People hate the US for all sorts of reasons , but the primary still in this day and age is n't because we were busibodies but because we spent 50 years playing puppet masters who were willing to prop up even the most reprehensible leader of a country if that meant that it was n't friends with the Soviets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the South still had slavery, would you have been one of the folk saying we just let the South get around to freeing the slaves on their own time?Sometimes, the folk in power have enough power to ensure the folk who don't (that constitute 99\% of the country) won't ever get a chance to change things.I remember Tiananmen Square, and how very very sad I was that the only thing we seemed to be willing to do was watch.I'm not saying Iran is in that spot, but I'm sure as hell not going to avoid lending a hand to the ones who want to get the truth out, just because that might cause the world to label us "busibodies".PS.
People hate the US for all sorts of reasons, but the primary still in this day and age isn't because we were busibodies but because we spent 50 years playing puppet masters who were willing to prop up even the most reprehensible leader of a country if that meant that it wasn't friends with the Soviets.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396319</id>
	<title>Re:Right, that's the only reason</title>
	<author>Chris Burke</author>
	<datestamp>1245408540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Expressing support and best wishes for the protestors gives them a boost in spirit that they need if they are to succeed. </i></p><p>Yeah, and erodes their support among the people of Iran (and hell, various factions of protestors themselves) by linking them with America, and in particular with American meddling.  Yes many Iranians want a more free and open government, yes many of them want better relations with the West in general and US in particular.  But they do <i>not</i> want us meddling in their affairs.  They have a <i>very bad</i> impression of our meddling.</p><p>Right now, the regime is demonstrating their brutality and oppression.  Terrible as it is, this works in favor of the reformists.  It builds sympathy and support (and practical proof of what they're saying about the government).  But you can bet there are Iranians who think the protesters are getting exactly what they deserve, and you can bet that number will increase proportionally to the amount that the U.S. sticks their nose in and makes it sound like they are backing the protesters or are trying to influence them to overthrow the Iranian government.  The entire country will solidify around the hard-liners if they see that as the case.</p><p>The best thing our government can do right now is keep their nose out of Iranian business.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Expressing support and best wishes for the protestors gives them a boost in spirit that they need if they are to succeed .
Yeah , and erodes their support among the people of Iran ( and hell , various factions of protestors themselves ) by linking them with America , and in particular with American meddling .
Yes many Iranians want a more free and open government , yes many of them want better relations with the West in general and US in particular .
But they do not want us meddling in their affairs .
They have a very bad impression of our meddling.Right now , the regime is demonstrating their brutality and oppression .
Terrible as it is , this works in favor of the reformists .
It builds sympathy and support ( and practical proof of what they 're saying about the government ) .
But you can bet there are Iranians who think the protesters are getting exactly what they deserve , and you can bet that number will increase proportionally to the amount that the U.S. sticks their nose in and makes it sound like they are backing the protesters or are trying to influence them to overthrow the Iranian government .
The entire country will solidify around the hard-liners if they see that as the case.The best thing our government can do right now is keep their nose out of Iranian business .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Expressing support and best wishes for the protestors gives them a boost in spirit that they need if they are to succeed.
Yeah, and erodes their support among the people of Iran (and hell, various factions of protestors themselves) by linking them with America, and in particular with American meddling.
Yes many Iranians want a more free and open government, yes many of them want better relations with the West in general and US in particular.
But they do not want us meddling in their affairs.
They have a very bad impression of our meddling.Right now, the regime is demonstrating their brutality and oppression.
Terrible as it is, this works in favor of the reformists.
It builds sympathy and support (and practical proof of what they're saying about the government).
But you can bet there are Iranians who think the protesters are getting exactly what they deserve, and you can bet that number will increase proportionally to the amount that the U.S. sticks their nose in and makes it sound like they are backing the protesters or are trying to influence them to overthrow the Iranian government.
The entire country will solidify around the hard-liners if they see that as the case.The best thing our government can do right now is keep their nose out of Iranian business.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396509</id>
	<title>Re:Homland Security Indeed</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1245409440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry, but your right to free speech doesn't come with a right to not get your ass kicked for doing so in a stupid manner.</p><p>Its not right that the guy had rocks thrown at him, but fucking seriously, when you're contributing to essentially overthrowing a government (legitimate or otherwise) you have to be mind numbingly stupid to not expect that if you become popular that you are going to become a target of SOMEONE.</p><p>What is so surprising about this incident to you?  That these people got into OUR COUNTRY?  I hope not, cause its trivial for anyone to get into the US if they aren't public enemy #1, and even Osama himself could arrange for a quiet border crossing from Canada or Mexico.  Getting in illegally and unnoticed is easy, doing it legally is a bitch.</p><p>Free speech doesn't make you safe on slashdot, thats a retarded way to look at it, and its the kind of view point that means you don't last long against people like the ones this guy is working against.  A country that allows free speech just means the goverment isn't going to prevent you from saying and thinking what you want, within certain estabilished limits (The right to free speech in America doesn't for instance give you the right to speak freely in my home unless I grant it to you).</p><p>The right to free speech comes with a responsibility to use it wisely.  Going out and making statements against the government that has clearly just rigged an election and has no problem with other people knowing it probably doesn't have  to much against thugging some loud mouth thorn in their side.  The more the thorn sticks them, the more they fight back at it.  They will win against him.  They may not win the war, but he doesn't stand a chance.</p><p>He has the right to free speech in America, but his exercising of those rights don't grant him extra privileges such as special security details or anything else that everyone else gets.  With that in mind, the use of free speech comes with some costs, he's paying one of those costs.  He can determine if its worth it to continue being vocal about it.</p><p>Don't compare yourself with this guy.  You aren't in the same ball park.  You're getting all uppity on slashdot, to a bunch of nerds, about how its horrible that this guy got beat up ON US SOIL!  Great, thats awesome, you wrote 3 lines on slashdot, be proud.  Mean while this guy got the attention of a reasonable size countries government by doing a lot of work to spread information.  If you did anything like he did, you'd be a complete fucking moron to be worried.</p><p>You'd also be an idiot if you are worried about your slashdot post which basically everyone in the world would agree with, including the attackers who were probably proud that they did it on US soil as thats kind of another FU in his face.</p><p>Its easy to sit around in our nice comfy homes on our laptops and say how screwed up something is, its another to go do something about it.  Your post on slashdot to make yourself feel good about it, so you know you've done something about it is just a joke and rather insulting to the people who are doing something about it in some way that actually does more than serve themselves and their warm fuzzies addiction.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , but your right to free speech does n't come with a right to not get your ass kicked for doing so in a stupid manner.Its not right that the guy had rocks thrown at him , but fucking seriously , when you 're contributing to essentially overthrowing a government ( legitimate or otherwise ) you have to be mind numbingly stupid to not expect that if you become popular that you are going to become a target of SOMEONE.What is so surprising about this incident to you ?
That these people got into OUR COUNTRY ?
I hope not , cause its trivial for anyone to get into the US if they are n't public enemy # 1 , and even Osama himself could arrange for a quiet border crossing from Canada or Mexico .
Getting in illegally and unnoticed is easy , doing it legally is a bitch.Free speech does n't make you safe on slashdot , thats a retarded way to look at it , and its the kind of view point that means you do n't last long against people like the ones this guy is working against .
A country that allows free speech just means the goverment is n't going to prevent you from saying and thinking what you want , within certain estabilished limits ( The right to free speech in America does n't for instance give you the right to speak freely in my home unless I grant it to you ) .The right to free speech comes with a responsibility to use it wisely .
Going out and making statements against the government that has clearly just rigged an election and has no problem with other people knowing it probably does n't have to much against thugging some loud mouth thorn in their side .
The more the thorn sticks them , the more they fight back at it .
They will win against him .
They may not win the war , but he does n't stand a chance.He has the right to free speech in America , but his exercising of those rights do n't grant him extra privileges such as special security details or anything else that everyone else gets .
With that in mind , the use of free speech comes with some costs , he 's paying one of those costs .
He can determine if its worth it to continue being vocal about it.Do n't compare yourself with this guy .
You are n't in the same ball park .
You 're getting all uppity on slashdot , to a bunch of nerds , about how its horrible that this guy got beat up ON US SOIL !
Great , thats awesome , you wrote 3 lines on slashdot , be proud .
Mean while this guy got the attention of a reasonable size countries government by doing a lot of work to spread information .
If you did anything like he did , you 'd be a complete fucking moron to be worried.You 'd also be an idiot if you are worried about your slashdot post which basically everyone in the world would agree with , including the attackers who were probably proud that they did it on US soil as thats kind of another FU in his face.Its easy to sit around in our nice comfy homes on our laptops and say how screwed up something is , its another to go do something about it .
Your post on slashdot to make yourself feel good about it , so you know you 've done something about it is just a joke and rather insulting to the people who are doing something about it in some way that actually does more than serve themselves and their warm fuzzies addiction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, but your right to free speech doesn't come with a right to not get your ass kicked for doing so in a stupid manner.Its not right that the guy had rocks thrown at him, but fucking seriously, when you're contributing to essentially overthrowing a government (legitimate or otherwise) you have to be mind numbingly stupid to not expect that if you become popular that you are going to become a target of SOMEONE.What is so surprising about this incident to you?
That these people got into OUR COUNTRY?
I hope not, cause its trivial for anyone to get into the US if they aren't public enemy #1, and even Osama himself could arrange for a quiet border crossing from Canada or Mexico.
Getting in illegally and unnoticed is easy, doing it legally is a bitch.Free speech doesn't make you safe on slashdot, thats a retarded way to look at it, and its the kind of view point that means you don't last long against people like the ones this guy is working against.
A country that allows free speech just means the goverment isn't going to prevent you from saying and thinking what you want, within certain estabilished limits (The right to free speech in America doesn't for instance give you the right to speak freely in my home unless I grant it to you).The right to free speech comes with a responsibility to use it wisely.
Going out and making statements against the government that has clearly just rigged an election and has no problem with other people knowing it probably doesn't have  to much against thugging some loud mouth thorn in their side.
The more the thorn sticks them, the more they fight back at it.
They will win against him.
They may not win the war, but he doesn't stand a chance.He has the right to free speech in America, but his exercising of those rights don't grant him extra privileges such as special security details or anything else that everyone else gets.
With that in mind, the use of free speech comes with some costs, he's paying one of those costs.
He can determine if its worth it to continue being vocal about it.Don't compare yourself with this guy.
You aren't in the same ball park.
You're getting all uppity on slashdot, to a bunch of nerds, about how its horrible that this guy got beat up ON US SOIL!
Great, thats awesome, you wrote 3 lines on slashdot, be proud.
Mean while this guy got the attention of a reasonable size countries government by doing a lot of work to spread information.
If you did anything like he did, you'd be a complete fucking moron to be worried.You'd also be an idiot if you are worried about your slashdot post which basically everyone in the world would agree with, including the attackers who were probably proud that they did it on US soil as thats kind of another FU in his face.Its easy to sit around in our nice comfy homes on our laptops and say how screwed up something is, its another to go do something about it.
Your post on slashdot to make yourself feel good about it, so you know you've done something about it is just a joke and rather insulting to the people who are doing something about it in some way that actually does more than serve themselves and their warm fuzzies addiction.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395345</id>
	<title>Right, that's the only reason</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1245404220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>They are desperate as they influence around the world shrinks after more moderate US goverment came into power.</i></p><p>So Democracy in Iraq, neighbors to Iran, had no influence at all on Iranians *also* wanting real elections?</p><p>I'm not saying having a more moderate U.S. president come into power.  But let's not heap glory on only one side while forgetting (or trying to bury) the history that made this point possible.</p><p>And speaking of moderate administrations, if students here and abroad are willing to take hits, perhaps the President of the U.S. should be as well.  And before you repeat the mistaken idea that Iran will crack down harder if the U.S. spoke in support of the protestors, jut what do you think is happening today?  Just what do you think is going to happen tomorrow, as Iran ha already warned?  Expressing support and best wishes for the protestors gives them a boost in spirit that they need if they are to succeed.  Even the president of France has come out strongly in favor of the protestors...</p><p>I only want the best for Iranians as well, as one of my friends grew up in Iran.  That is why I am so dissatisfied with the lack of upper level support to date.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are desperate as they influence around the world shrinks after more moderate US goverment came into power.So Democracy in Iraq , neighbors to Iran , had no influence at all on Iranians * also * wanting real elections ? I 'm not saying having a more moderate U.S. president come into power .
But let 's not heap glory on only one side while forgetting ( or trying to bury ) the history that made this point possible.And speaking of moderate administrations , if students here and abroad are willing to take hits , perhaps the President of the U.S. should be as well .
And before you repeat the mistaken idea that Iran will crack down harder if the U.S. spoke in support of the protestors , jut what do you think is happening today ?
Just what do you think is going to happen tomorrow , as Iran ha already warned ?
Expressing support and best wishes for the protestors gives them a boost in spirit that they need if they are to succeed .
Even the president of France has come out strongly in favor of the protestors...I only want the best for Iranians as well , as one of my friends grew up in Iran .
That is why I am so dissatisfied with the lack of upper level support to date .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are desperate as they influence around the world shrinks after more moderate US goverment came into power.So Democracy in Iraq, neighbors to Iran, had no influence at all on Iranians *also* wanting real elections?I'm not saying having a more moderate U.S. president come into power.
But let's not heap glory on only one side while forgetting (or trying to bury) the history that made this point possible.And speaking of moderate administrations, if students here and abroad are willing to take hits, perhaps the President of the U.S. should be as well.
And before you repeat the mistaken idea that Iran will crack down harder if the U.S. spoke in support of the protestors, jut what do you think is happening today?
Just what do you think is going to happen tomorrow, as Iran ha already warned?
Expressing support and best wishes for the protestors gives them a boost in spirit that they need if they are to succeed.
Even the president of France has come out strongly in favor of the protestors...I only want the best for Iranians as well, as one of my friends grew up in Iran.
That is why I am so dissatisfied with the lack of upper level support to date.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397059</id>
	<title>Re:Lock and Load.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245412200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Small arms against rock-throwers? Are you quite out of your mind?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Small arms against rock-throwers ?
Are you quite out of your mind ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Small arms against rock-throwers?
Are you quite out of your mind?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397121</id>
	<title>highly suspicious</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245412500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>with a direct link from his twitter to homepage this guy's bio.php is STILL up, supposedly after the attack.<br>the index was changed to obfuscate but to leave the bio.php up after an attack? it took about 30 seconds<br>to find this guys info even after he was supposedly fearing for his life.  btw, how exactly do you go about<br>planning to assault someone who is Walking to school with same-day planning? this whole thing sounds<br>highly suspicious.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>with a direct link from his twitter to homepage this guy 's bio.php is STILL up , supposedly after the attack.the index was changed to obfuscate but to leave the bio.php up after an attack ?
it took about 30 secondsto find this guys info even after he was supposedly fearing for his life .
btw , how exactly do you go aboutplanning to assault someone who is Walking to school with same-day planning ?
this whole thing soundshighly suspicious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with a direct link from his twitter to homepage this guy's bio.php is STILL up, supposedly after the attack.the index was changed to obfuscate but to leave the bio.php up after an attack?
it took about 30 secondsto find this guys info even after he was supposedly fearing for his life.
btw, how exactly do you go aboutplanning to assault someone who is Walking to school with same-day planning?
this whole thing soundshighly suspicious.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28399479</id>
	<title>Re:an american point of view</title>
	<author>Chowderbags</author>
	<datestamp>1245436440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The results are so blatently fraudulent as to be laughable.  <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2009/jun/17/iran-election-rigging" title="guardian.co.uk">According to the Guardian UK, the turnout rates in 26 provinces are scientifically impossible, with 30 towns having over 100\% turnout.</a> [guardian.co.uk] This isn't the kind of fraud that you get from a few corrupt poll workers here and there, this is the kind of fraud that you get when one of the people running for office is also counting the votes. What's the point in going through a legal protest of that kind of result? There's no chance of fairness or openness.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The results are so blatently fraudulent as to be laughable .
According to the Guardian UK , the turnout rates in 26 provinces are scientifically impossible , with 30 towns having over 100 \ % turnout .
[ guardian.co.uk ] This is n't the kind of fraud that you get from a few corrupt poll workers here and there , this is the kind of fraud that you get when one of the people running for office is also counting the votes .
What 's the point in going through a legal protest of that kind of result ?
There 's no chance of fairness or openness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The results are so blatently fraudulent as to be laughable.
According to the Guardian UK, the turnout rates in 26 provinces are scientifically impossible, with 30 towns having over 100\% turnout.
[guardian.co.uk] This isn't the kind of fraud that you get from a few corrupt poll workers here and there, this is the kind of fraud that you get when one of the people running for office is also counting the votes.
What's the point in going through a legal protest of that kind of result?
There's no chance of fairness or openness.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397009</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>nitehawk214</author>
	<datestamp>1245411900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'd be inclined to suspect, pending further information, that the guys who pulled this are your basic freelance nationalists, rather than actual agents. A few guys in a car, throwing rocks to no apparent effect, isn't exactly 007 stuff. A "car accident" (or heck, a standard homicide, those are common enough, just nick the guy's wallet so it looks apolitical) would have been much more professional.</p></div><p>I disagree. If you have completely expendable agents. (read: bozos so filled with nationality that they truly believe they are doing the right thing)... then by all means let the world know what happens to people that go against you. The government has complete denyability, and you might scare a few others into not acting at all.</p><p>Right out of the CIA playbook, likely...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd be inclined to suspect , pending further information , that the guys who pulled this are your basic freelance nationalists , rather than actual agents .
A few guys in a car , throwing rocks to no apparent effect , is n't exactly 007 stuff .
A " car accident " ( or heck , a standard homicide , those are common enough , just nick the guy 's wallet so it looks apolitical ) would have been much more professional.I disagree .
If you have completely expendable agents .
( read : bozos so filled with nationality that they truly believe they are doing the right thing ) ... then by all means let the world know what happens to people that go against you .
The government has complete denyability , and you might scare a few others into not acting at all.Right out of the CIA playbook , likely.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd be inclined to suspect, pending further information, that the guys who pulled this are your basic freelance nationalists, rather than actual agents.
A few guys in a car, throwing rocks to no apparent effect, isn't exactly 007 stuff.
A "car accident" (or heck, a standard homicide, those are common enough, just nick the guy's wallet so it looks apolitical) would have been much more professional.I disagree.
If you have completely expendable agents.
(read: bozos so filled with nationality that they truly believe they are doing the right thing)... then by all means let the world know what happens to people that go against you.
The government has complete denyability, and you might scare a few others into not acting at all.Right out of the CIA playbook, likely...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28398455</id>
	<title>Daily Kos?</title>
	<author>horza</author>
	<datestamp>1245423840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Daily Kos? On Slashdot? That and Huffington Post is why every self-respecting person abandoned Digg long before the end of the last election. Please don't pollute<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. too.</p><p>Phillip.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Daily Kos ?
On Slashdot ?
That and Huffington Post is why every self-respecting person abandoned Digg long before the end of the last election .
Please do n't pollute / .
too.Phillip .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Daily Kos?
On Slashdot?
That and Huffington Post is why every self-respecting person abandoned Digg long before the end of the last election.
Please don't pollute /.
too.Phillip.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397489</id>
	<title>Re:It will be ugly</title>
	<author>demachina</author>
	<datestamp>1245415500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"...current democratical movement with Mousavi..."</p><p>It should be taken with a grain of salt that Mousavi is leading a "democratic" movement in Iran.  Mousavi was a former Iranian Prime Minister during the early years of the Iranin revolution which brought down the Shah and began the current regime of the Ayatollahs.   At least in the 80's he was very much a part of the Iranian establishment.  The Ayatollahs don't usually let just anyone run for office in Iran unless they are acceptable to the Ayatollahs.</p><p>Unfortunately its a little hard to get much unbiased information on Mousavi in the West at this point.  The Wikipedia article on him has gone to complete hell as both sides fight to introduce biased edits.  The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mir-Hossein\_Mousavi" title="wikipedia.org">Wikipedia talk</a> [wikipedia.org] section about it is a pretty good insight in to the politics of Wikipedia when information warfare over a Wikipedia article spikes.</p><p>It may be true that Mousavi is a lesser of the two evils compared to Ahmadinejad, but unless you really know the history and players and understand what is really going on in Iran, and I'm not sure anyone really does, it would be safer to just adopt the position that there is just a major, multisided, power struggle going on between Mousavi, Ahmadinejad, Khamenei, Rafsanjani, various clerics, the Revolutionary Guard, Basij, and urban, liberal young people.  As is often the case with revolutions, the outcome and the unintended consequences are not always as utopian as the revolutionaries think when they are in the throes.</p><p>It is almost certainly simplistic to portray Mousavi as an unabashed champion of democracy, freedom and pure as driven snow, who, if he comes to power will undo the last 30 years of animosity to the West.  He certainly may have mellowed during his 20 years out of Iranian politics and maybe he really is a champion of freedom and liberalization but I wouldn't take it as a certainty.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" ...current democratical movement with Mousavi... " It should be taken with a grain of salt that Mousavi is leading a " democratic " movement in Iran .
Mousavi was a former Iranian Prime Minister during the early years of the Iranin revolution which brought down the Shah and began the current regime of the Ayatollahs .
At least in the 80 's he was very much a part of the Iranian establishment .
The Ayatollahs do n't usually let just anyone run for office in Iran unless they are acceptable to the Ayatollahs.Unfortunately its a little hard to get much unbiased information on Mousavi in the West at this point .
The Wikipedia article on him has gone to complete hell as both sides fight to introduce biased edits .
The Wikipedia talk [ wikipedia.org ] section about it is a pretty good insight in to the politics of Wikipedia when information warfare over a Wikipedia article spikes.It may be true that Mousavi is a lesser of the two evils compared to Ahmadinejad , but unless you really know the history and players and understand what is really going on in Iran , and I 'm not sure anyone really does , it would be safer to just adopt the position that there is just a major , multisided , power struggle going on between Mousavi , Ahmadinejad , Khamenei , Rafsanjani , various clerics , the Revolutionary Guard , Basij , and urban , liberal young people .
As is often the case with revolutions , the outcome and the unintended consequences are not always as utopian as the revolutionaries think when they are in the throes.It is almost certainly simplistic to portray Mousavi as an unabashed champion of democracy , freedom and pure as driven snow , who , if he comes to power will undo the last 30 years of animosity to the West .
He certainly may have mellowed during his 20 years out of Iranian politics and maybe he really is a champion of freedom and liberalization but I would n't take it as a certainty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"...current democratical movement with Mousavi..."It should be taken with a grain of salt that Mousavi is leading a "democratic" movement in Iran.
Mousavi was a former Iranian Prime Minister during the early years of the Iranin revolution which brought down the Shah and began the current regime of the Ayatollahs.
At least in the 80's he was very much a part of the Iranian establishment.
The Ayatollahs don't usually let just anyone run for office in Iran unless they are acceptable to the Ayatollahs.Unfortunately its a little hard to get much unbiased information on Mousavi in the West at this point.
The Wikipedia article on him has gone to complete hell as both sides fight to introduce biased edits.
The Wikipedia talk [wikipedia.org] section about it is a pretty good insight in to the politics of Wikipedia when information warfare over a Wikipedia article spikes.It may be true that Mousavi is a lesser of the two evils compared to Ahmadinejad, but unless you really know the history and players and understand what is really going on in Iran, and I'm not sure anyone really does, it would be safer to just adopt the position that there is just a major, multisided, power struggle going on between Mousavi, Ahmadinejad, Khamenei, Rafsanjani, various clerics, the Revolutionary Guard, Basij, and urban, liberal young people.
As is often the case with revolutions, the outcome and the unintended consequences are not always as utopian as the revolutionaries think when they are in the throes.It is almost certainly simplistic to portray Mousavi as an unabashed champion of democracy, freedom and pure as driven snow, who, if he comes to power will undo the last 30 years of animosity to the West.
He certainly may have mellowed during his 20 years out of Iranian politics and maybe he really is a champion of freedom and liberalization but I wouldn't take it as a certainty.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397019</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>fermion</author>
	<datestamp>1245411960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And Hannity said the attack was not an attack, and he would allow people to throw rocks at him to prove that it was only a bit of fun.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And Hannity said the attack was not an attack , and he would allow people to throw rocks at him to prove that it was only a bit of fun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And Hannity said the attack was not an attack, and he would allow people to throw rocks at him to prove that it was only a bit of fun.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396165</id>
	<title>Re:skeptical</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245407760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Read about this on Huffpo after seeing it first posted on dkos.  Nico Pitney, the guy doing the excellent live blog there apparently tried to confirm this story and was unable to.  I'm thinking that this is very likely a hoax.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Read about this on Huffpo after seeing it first posted on dkos .
Nico Pitney , the guy doing the excellent live blog there apparently tried to confirm this story and was unable to .
I 'm thinking that this is very likely a hoax .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Read about this on Huffpo after seeing it first posted on dkos.
Nico Pitney, the guy doing the excellent live blog there apparently tried to confirm this story and was unable to.
I'm thinking that this is very likely a hoax.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397551</id>
	<title>Re:Another Note on this.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245416280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your head is in your ass.</p><p>Not only have I brought up servers across multiple countries and continents to run as proxies, vpn endpoints, and file drops I've gotten several major bandwidth/hosting providers to donate bandwidth for this.</p><p>Fuck You.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your head is in your ass.Not only have I brought up servers across multiple countries and continents to run as proxies , vpn endpoints , and file drops I 've gotten several major bandwidth/hosting providers to donate bandwidth for this.Fuck You .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your head is in your ass.Not only have I brought up servers across multiple countries and continents to run as proxies, vpn endpoints, and file drops I've gotten several major bandwidth/hosting providers to donate bandwidth for this.Fuck You.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396151</id>
	<title>Re:why the tolerance for TERRORISM on US soil?</title>
	<author>phantomfive</author>
	<datestamp>1245407700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>ON what planet is this supposed to be "Change We Can Believe In?"</p></div><p>Are you seriously blaming Obama for this?  Not only are you A) assuming that this guy is telling the truth (probably reasonable), your also assuming that B) they are representing a foreign government, C) they are actually foreigners, D) That the Administration has even heard about it (it comes from a blog on the Daily KOS, do you think Obama reads that?) E) That they have killed Americans (where are you getting this stuff?)  F) that the police have done nothing about it (probably true), and G) that it somehow relates to Obama's campaign slogans.  What exactly is your goal in posting this stuff?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>ON what planet is this supposed to be " Change We Can Believe In ?
" Are you seriously blaming Obama for this ?
Not only are you A ) assuming that this guy is telling the truth ( probably reasonable ) , your also assuming that B ) they are representing a foreign government , C ) they are actually foreigners , D ) That the Administration has even heard about it ( it comes from a blog on the Daily KOS , do you think Obama reads that ?
) E ) That they have killed Americans ( where are you getting this stuff ?
) F ) that the police have done nothing about it ( probably true ) , and G ) that it somehow relates to Obama 's campaign slogans .
What exactly is your goal in posting this stuff ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ON what planet is this supposed to be "Change We Can Believe In?
"Are you seriously blaming Obama for this?
Not only are you A) assuming that this guy is telling the truth (probably reasonable), your also assuming that B) they are representing a foreign government, C) they are actually foreigners, D) That the Administration has even heard about it (it comes from a blog on the Daily KOS, do you think Obama reads that?
) E) That they have killed Americans (where are you getting this stuff?
)  F) that the police have done nothing about it (probably true), and G) that it somehow relates to Obama's campaign slogans.
What exactly is your goal in posting this stuff?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395915</id>
	<title>It wasn't rocks they were throwing at him</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245406680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was baby incubators.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was baby incubators .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was baby incubators.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396107</id>
	<title>Re:It will be ugly</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245407520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>All together now: "The religion of peace".</htmltext>
<tokenext>All together now : " The religion of peace " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All together now: "The religion of peace".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28398631</id>
	<title>Re:Do this stuff ANONYMOUSLY as possible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245425820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I donate bandwidth to Tor. Many people do that for many different reasons, so they can't attack us all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I donate bandwidth to Tor .
Many people do that for many different reasons , so they ca n't attack us all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I donate bandwidth to Tor.
Many people do that for many different reasons, so they can't attack us all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28400601</id>
	<title>Re:Homland Security Indeed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245497280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, not really. It is exactly what america thinks is their godgivenright to perpetrate in the rest of the world. You can either be a freestate and then this will occasionally happen or you can be a policestate and then it will happen just as much but in that case the rest of the world will know more and earlier about it than you. It is kinda fortunate for your peace of mind that you lot are heading straight for a police state. Sleep well citizen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , not really .
It is exactly what america thinks is their godgivenright to perpetrate in the rest of the world .
You can either be a freestate and then this will occasionally happen or you can be a policestate and then it will happen just as much but in that case the rest of the world will know more and earlier about it than you .
It is kinda fortunate for your peace of mind that you lot are heading straight for a police state .
Sleep well citizen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, not really.
It is exactly what america thinks is their godgivenright to perpetrate in the rest of the world.
You can either be a freestate and then this will occasionally happen or you can be a policestate and then it will happen just as much but in that case the rest of the world will know more and earlier about it than you.
It is kinda fortunate for your peace of mind that you lot are heading straight for a police state.
Sleep well citizen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395901</id>
	<title>Meddlesome</title>
	<author>Spacepup</author>
	<datestamp>1245406620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"For all the hatred spewed at the direction of the USA, I've got to say there's quite an effort underway by normal citizens to help. There are people from all over the world trying to help, but I'd say a good number of them are from the USA."</p><p>Did it never occur to you or anyone else that this is exactly why the US is so hated?</p><p>People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. --River Tam</p><p>This is why we are so hated. Yes, I believe in freedom of speech, fair elections, and democracy for all. But, we need to step back and respect countries enough to let them get there on their own terms.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" For all the hatred spewed at the direction of the USA , I 've got to say there 's quite an effort underway by normal citizens to help .
There are people from all over the world trying to help , but I 'd say a good number of them are from the USA .
" Did it never occur to you or anyone else that this is exactly why the US is so hated ? People do n't like to be meddled with .
We tell them what to do , what to think , do n't run , do n't walk .
We 're in their homes and in their heads and we have n't the right .
--River TamThis is why we are so hated .
Yes , I believe in freedom of speech , fair elections , and democracy for all .
But , we need to step back and respect countries enough to let them get there on their own terms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"For all the hatred spewed at the direction of the USA, I've got to say there's quite an effort underway by normal citizens to help.
There are people from all over the world trying to help, but I'd say a good number of them are from the USA.
"Did it never occur to you or anyone else that this is exactly why the US is so hated?People don't like to be meddled with.
We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk.
We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right.
--River TamThis is why we are so hated.
Yes, I believe in freedom of speech, fair elections, and democracy for all.
But, we need to step back and respect countries enough to let them get there on their own terms.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397933</id>
	<title>Re:Right, that's the only reason</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245419040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem with this is that you've grossly overstated the hatred for the US in Iran.  You've also grossly overstated hatred for Iran in the US.</p><p>The US government is at odds with certain behaviors of the Iranian government, frequently with good cause.  The feeling is justifiably mutual.</p><p>Hopefully some real reform in Iran will complement the less aggressive administration here and we can all move forward.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem with this is that you 've grossly overstated the hatred for the US in Iran .
You 've also grossly overstated hatred for Iran in the US.The US government is at odds with certain behaviors of the Iranian government , frequently with good cause .
The feeling is justifiably mutual.Hopefully some real reform in Iran will complement the less aggressive administration here and we can all move forward .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem with this is that you've grossly overstated the hatred for the US in Iran.
You've also grossly overstated hatred for Iran in the US.The US government is at odds with certain behaviors of the Iranian government, frequently with good cause.
The feeling is justifiably mutual.Hopefully some real reform in Iran will complement the less aggressive administration here and we can all move forward.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396345</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395645</id>
	<title>ProtesterHelp Here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245405480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>cba to make account, but it's me, can e-mail on ph.on.twitter@gmail.com if you want to confirm</p><p>Just wanting to say:</p><p>1) I agree that this was not agency work, but nationalists.<br>2) I had no clue how serious this was when I started, and by the time I took measures of security, it was too late<br>3) I tried to have my personal info pulled from twitter, but they gave me form letter about deleting my account.  Boo @twitter.<br>4) Want to say thank you to all of the private sector security people who offered to advise/help<br>5) go to http://iran.whyweprotest.net to see how you can help<br>6) There are other reports of odd things happening to other prominent Americans. Cars trailing, seen parked outside their homes. I can't confirm these, but just saying, if you are involved in any major way (beyond proxies/tor setup), please be careful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>cba to make account , but it 's me , can e-mail on ph.on.twitter @ gmail.com if you want to confirmJust wanting to say : 1 ) I agree that this was not agency work , but nationalists.2 ) I had no clue how serious this was when I started , and by the time I took measures of security , it was too late3 ) I tried to have my personal info pulled from twitter , but they gave me form letter about deleting my account .
Boo @ twitter.4 ) Want to say thank you to all of the private sector security people who offered to advise/help5 ) go to http : //iran.whyweprotest.net to see how you can help6 ) There are other reports of odd things happening to other prominent Americans .
Cars trailing , seen parked outside their homes .
I ca n't confirm these , but just saying , if you are involved in any major way ( beyond proxies/tor setup ) , please be careful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>cba to make account, but it's me, can e-mail on ph.on.twitter@gmail.com if you want to confirmJust wanting to say:1) I agree that this was not agency work, but nationalists.2) I had no clue how serious this was when I started, and by the time I took measures of security, it was too late3) I tried to have my personal info pulled from twitter, but they gave me form letter about deleting my account.
Boo @twitter.4) Want to say thank you to all of the private sector security people who offered to advise/help5) go to http://iran.whyweprotest.net to see how you can help6) There are other reports of odd things happening to other prominent Americans.
Cars trailing, seen parked outside their homes.
I can't confirm these, but just saying, if you are involved in any major way (beyond proxies/tor setup), please be careful.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396783</id>
	<title>Re:skeptical</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245410880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree. What evidence has been provided to prove this attack took place?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
What evidence has been provided to prove this attack took place ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
What evidence has been provided to prove this attack took place?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395237</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395713</id>
	<title>surprised they're having this much trouble locking</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245405780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given that Iran is operating under an authoritarian government, I would have thought that just shutting everything down would be quite possible. Cut all internet connections from the country save for a few government agencies, done. I can understand the difficulties in providing selective access across the board but I would have thought it would be simple enough for them to pull the plug. The only reason why they aren't must be because they are more reliant on the internet across their entire economy than I previously suspected -- they can't afford to pull the plug.</p><p>That even an authoritarian government run by unpleasant people have trouble with this is encouraging; I would hope censorship in western democracies would be even less successful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given that Iran is operating under an authoritarian government , I would have thought that just shutting everything down would be quite possible .
Cut all internet connections from the country save for a few government agencies , done .
I can understand the difficulties in providing selective access across the board but I would have thought it would be simple enough for them to pull the plug .
The only reason why they are n't must be because they are more reliant on the internet across their entire economy than I previously suspected -- they ca n't afford to pull the plug.That even an authoritarian government run by unpleasant people have trouble with this is encouraging ; I would hope censorship in western democracies would be even less successful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given that Iran is operating under an authoritarian government, I would have thought that just shutting everything down would be quite possible.
Cut all internet connections from the country save for a few government agencies, done.
I can understand the difficulties in providing selective access across the board but I would have thought it would be simple enough for them to pull the plug.
The only reason why they aren't must be because they are more reliant on the internet across their entire economy than I previously suspected -- they can't afford to pull the plug.That even an authoritarian government run by unpleasant people have trouble with this is encouraging; I would hope censorship in western democracies would be even less successful.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395855</id>
	<title>Beware Agent Provocateurs</title>
	<author>Gumber</author>
	<datestamp>1245406380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Assuming this story is true, I'd be concerned that this is an attempt to draw the US Government into a confrontation that will help the hard-liners in Iran.  As for who would want such a thing.</p><p>Clearly the hard-liners would like to try, once again, to get people to rally behind them in the face of "the great satan."  You'd also have to look at the US Neocons, many of whom would like to remove any sympathy for Iran or Iranians that gets in the way of their long-disgraced axis-of-evil BS.  And then there is Israel.  At least some in Israel are on the same page as the neocons, though I wouldn't want to suggest that their position is universally held.</p><p>Anyway, I'm suspicious of the motives of anyone who wants to use this as anything but a reason to get the cops and/or FBI on the case.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Assuming this story is true , I 'd be concerned that this is an attempt to draw the US Government into a confrontation that will help the hard-liners in Iran .
As for who would want such a thing.Clearly the hard-liners would like to try , once again , to get people to rally behind them in the face of " the great satan .
" You 'd also have to look at the US Neocons , many of whom would like to remove any sympathy for Iran or Iranians that gets in the way of their long-disgraced axis-of-evil BS .
And then there is Israel .
At least some in Israel are on the same page as the neocons , though I would n't want to suggest that their position is universally held.Anyway , I 'm suspicious of the motives of anyone who wants to use this as anything but a reason to get the cops and/or FBI on the case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Assuming this story is true, I'd be concerned that this is an attempt to draw the US Government into a confrontation that will help the hard-liners in Iran.
As for who would want such a thing.Clearly the hard-liners would like to try, once again, to get people to rally behind them in the face of "the great satan.
"  You'd also have to look at the US Neocons, many of whom would like to remove any sympathy for Iran or Iranians that gets in the way of their long-disgraced axis-of-evil BS.
And then there is Israel.
At least some in Israel are on the same page as the neocons, though I wouldn't want to suggest that their position is universally held.Anyway, I'm suspicious of the motives of anyone who wants to use this as anything but a reason to get the cops and/or FBI on the case.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395339</id>
	<title>The Grotesquely Ugly Truth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245404220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the absence of an external interfering force (e. g., the army of the Soviet Union), the fate of a nation is determined by its people. Period.
<p>
After the Kremlin exited Eastern Europe, the peoples of each nation in Eastern Europe rapidly established a genuine democracy and a free market. Except for Romania (where its people killed their dictator), there was no violence.
</p><p>
In Iran (and many other failed states), no external force is imposing the current brutal government on the Iranians. The folks running the government are Iranian. The president is Iranian. The secret police are Iranian. The thugs who will torture and kill democracy advocates are Iranian.
</p><p>
If the democracy advocates attempt to establish a genuine democracy in Iran, violence will occur. Why? A large percentage of the population supports the brutal government and will kill the democracy advocates.
</p><p>
Let us not merely condemn the Iranian government. We must condemn Iranian culture. Its product is the authoritarian state.
</p><p>
We should not intervene in the current crisis in Iran. If the overwhelming majority of Iranians (like the overwhelming majority of Poles) truly support democracy, human rights, and peace with Israel, then a liberal Western democracy will arise -- without any violence. Right now, the overwhelming majority clearly oppose the creation of a liberal Western democracy. The Iranians love a brutal Islamic theocracy.
</p><p>
The Iranians created this horrible society. It is none of our business unless they attempt to develop nuclear weapons. We in the West are morally justified in destroying the nuclear-weapons facilities.
</p><p>
Note that, 40 years ago, Vietnam suffered a worse fate (than the Iranians) at the hands of the Americans. They doused large areas of Vietnam with agent orange, poisoning both the land and the people. Yet, the Vietnamese do not channel their energies into seeking revenge (by, e. g., building a nuclear bomb) against the West. Rather, the Vietnamese are diligently modernizing their society. They will reach 1st-world status long before the Iranians.
</p><p>
Cultures are different. Vietnamese culture and Iranian culture are different. The Iranians bear 100\% of the blame for the existence of a tyrannical government in Iran. We should condemn Iranian culture and its people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the absence of an external interfering force ( e. g. , the army of the Soviet Union ) , the fate of a nation is determined by its people .
Period . After the Kremlin exited Eastern Europe , the peoples of each nation in Eastern Europe rapidly established a genuine democracy and a free market .
Except for Romania ( where its people killed their dictator ) , there was no violence .
In Iran ( and many other failed states ) , no external force is imposing the current brutal government on the Iranians .
The folks running the government are Iranian .
The president is Iranian .
The secret police are Iranian .
The thugs who will torture and kill democracy advocates are Iranian .
If the democracy advocates attempt to establish a genuine democracy in Iran , violence will occur .
Why ? A large percentage of the population supports the brutal government and will kill the democracy advocates .
Let us not merely condemn the Iranian government .
We must condemn Iranian culture .
Its product is the authoritarian state .
We should not intervene in the current crisis in Iran .
If the overwhelming majority of Iranians ( like the overwhelming majority of Poles ) truly support democracy , human rights , and peace with Israel , then a liberal Western democracy will arise -- without any violence .
Right now , the overwhelming majority clearly oppose the creation of a liberal Western democracy .
The Iranians love a brutal Islamic theocracy .
The Iranians created this horrible society .
It is none of our business unless they attempt to develop nuclear weapons .
We in the West are morally justified in destroying the nuclear-weapons facilities .
Note that , 40 years ago , Vietnam suffered a worse fate ( than the Iranians ) at the hands of the Americans .
They doused large areas of Vietnam with agent orange , poisoning both the land and the people .
Yet , the Vietnamese do not channel their energies into seeking revenge ( by , e. g. , building a nuclear bomb ) against the West .
Rather , the Vietnamese are diligently modernizing their society .
They will reach 1st-world status long before the Iranians .
Cultures are different .
Vietnamese culture and Iranian culture are different .
The Iranians bear 100 \ % of the blame for the existence of a tyrannical government in Iran .
We should condemn Iranian culture and its people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the absence of an external interfering force (e. g., the army of the Soviet Union), the fate of a nation is determined by its people.
Period.

After the Kremlin exited Eastern Europe, the peoples of each nation in Eastern Europe rapidly established a genuine democracy and a free market.
Except for Romania (where its people killed their dictator), there was no violence.
In Iran (and many other failed states), no external force is imposing the current brutal government on the Iranians.
The folks running the government are Iranian.
The president is Iranian.
The secret police are Iranian.
The thugs who will torture and kill democracy advocates are Iranian.
If the democracy advocates attempt to establish a genuine democracy in Iran, violence will occur.
Why? A large percentage of the population supports the brutal government and will kill the democracy advocates.
Let us not merely condemn the Iranian government.
We must condemn Iranian culture.
Its product is the authoritarian state.
We should not intervene in the current crisis in Iran.
If the overwhelming majority of Iranians (like the overwhelming majority of Poles) truly support democracy, human rights, and peace with Israel, then a liberal Western democracy will arise -- without any violence.
Right now, the overwhelming majority clearly oppose the creation of a liberal Western democracy.
The Iranians love a brutal Islamic theocracy.
The Iranians created this horrible society.
It is none of our business unless they attempt to develop nuclear weapons.
We in the West are morally justified in destroying the nuclear-weapons facilities.
Note that, 40 years ago, Vietnam suffered a worse fate (than the Iranians) at the hands of the Americans.
They doused large areas of Vietnam with agent orange, poisoning both the land and the people.
Yet, the Vietnamese do not channel their energies into seeking revenge (by, e. g., building a nuclear bomb) against the West.
Rather, the Vietnamese are diligently modernizing their society.
They will reach 1st-world status long before the Iranians.
Cultures are different.
Vietnamese culture and Iranian culture are different.
The Iranians bear 100\% of the blame for the existence of a tyrannical government in Iran.
We should condemn Iranian culture and its people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395091</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396037</id>
	<title>Re:The Grotesquely Ugly Truth</title>
	<author>levicivita</author>
	<datestamp>1245407160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This exact comment was posted as-is a few days ago somewhere in <a href="http://ask.slashdot.org/story/09/06/14/183200/Iran-Moves-To-End-Facebook-Revolution?from=rss" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">here</a> [slashdot.org].  I also found it (by googling the first sentence) on another <a href="http://mces.blogspot.com/2009/06/please-help.html" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">blog</a> [blogspot.com] as well.  I find it very strange to have someone copy and paste their thoughts all over the place.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This exact comment was posted as-is a few days ago somewhere in here [ slashdot.org ] .
I also found it ( by googling the first sentence ) on another blog [ blogspot.com ] as well .
I find it very strange to have someone copy and paste their thoughts all over the place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This exact comment was posted as-is a few days ago somewhere in here [slashdot.org].
I also found it (by googling the first sentence) on another blog [blogspot.com] as well.
I find it very strange to have someone copy and paste their thoughts all over the place.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395339</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397101</id>
	<title>Re:why the tolerance for TERRORISM on US soil?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245412440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it's time to see your doctor, and ask to have your medication levels looked at...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's time to see your doctor , and ask to have your medication levels looked at.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's time to see your doctor, and ask to have your medication levels looked at...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395491</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28399433</id>
	<title>Re:Lock and Load.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245435540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I prefer his solution.  His escalation is non violent and results are likely to be more effective.  He has taken down the site.  If they continue to pursue him they loose their ability to give incentives to others to shut down their proxies.  He could always arm himself latter.  Shooting one of these rock throwers probably wouldn't be very helpful.  Besides they have the advantage of anonymity and could attack when he is vulnerable anyway.  Now hundreds of proxies have been inspired.  I don't think the rock throwers can escalate their violence to the point to counter the reaction they have generated.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I prefer his solution .
His escalation is non violent and results are likely to be more effective .
He has taken down the site .
If they continue to pursue him they loose their ability to give incentives to others to shut down their proxies .
He could always arm himself latter .
Shooting one of these rock throwers probably would n't be very helpful .
Besides they have the advantage of anonymity and could attack when he is vulnerable anyway .
Now hundreds of proxies have been inspired .
I do n't think the rock throwers can escalate their violence to the point to counter the reaction they have generated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I prefer his solution.
His escalation is non violent and results are likely to be more effective.
He has taken down the site.
If they continue to pursue him they loose their ability to give incentives to others to shut down their proxies.
He could always arm himself latter.
Shooting one of these rock throwers probably wouldn't be very helpful.
Besides they have the advantage of anonymity and could attack when he is vulnerable anyway.
Now hundreds of proxies have been inspired.
I don't think the rock throwers can escalate their violence to the point to counter the reaction they have generated.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395453</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397709</id>
	<title>Re:Another Note on this.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245417300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ooh fun lemme play! I guess you're the kind of person who will "help" whether it's needed or wanted just for the kicks. Personal safety? Pssh, all the better for martyrdom. It's like seeing someone carrying a small child out of the road, elbowing them out of the way, throwing yourself in front of a bus and leaving the child in the middle of traffic!<br> <br>Convenient that you can "help" this time without moving your ass from your chair or exerting any kind of effort.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ooh fun lem me play !
I guess you 're the kind of person who will " help " whether it 's needed or wanted just for the kicks .
Personal safety ?
Pssh , all the better for martyrdom .
It 's like seeing someone carrying a small child out of the road , elbowing them out of the way , throwing yourself in front of a bus and leaving the child in the middle of traffic !
Convenient that you can " help " this time without moving your ass from your chair or exerting any kind of effort .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ooh fun lemme play!
I guess you're the kind of person who will "help" whether it's needed or wanted just for the kicks.
Personal safety?
Pssh, all the better for martyrdom.
It's like seeing someone carrying a small child out of the road, elbowing them out of the way, throwing yourself in front of a bus and leaving the child in the middle of traffic!
Convenient that you can "help" this time without moving your ass from your chair or exerting any kind of effort.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396323</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28403493</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>tuxgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1245527460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>And Hannity said the attack was not an attack, and he would allow people to throw rocks at him to prove that it was only a bit of fun.</p></div></blockquote><p>Well now, that is quite an invitation. Sounds to me like Hannity gets off on a little S&amp;M from time to time<br>Not only would it be fun to throw large rocks at Hannity, especially if he enjoys it, it would also be great fun to swing a baseball bat at his head. Maybe even douse him with gasoline and set him on fire<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And Hannity said the attack was not an attack , and he would allow people to throw rocks at him to prove that it was only a bit of fun.Well now , that is quite an invitation .
Sounds to me like Hannity gets off on a little S&amp;M from time to timeNot only would it be fun to throw large rocks at Hannity , especially if he enjoys it , it would also be great fun to swing a baseball bat at his head .
Maybe even douse him with gasoline and set him on fire .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And Hannity said the attack was not an attack, and he would allow people to throw rocks at him to prove that it was only a bit of fun.Well now, that is quite an invitation.
Sounds to me like Hannity gets off on a little S&amp;M from time to timeNot only would it be fun to throw large rocks at Hannity, especially if he enjoys it, it would also be great fun to swing a baseball bat at his head.
Maybe even douse him with gasoline and set him on fire ...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397019</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395575</id>
	<title>Re:No, this stops</title>
	<author>scubamage</author>
	<datestamp>1245405180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Read <a href="http://emsenn.com/iran.php" title="emsenn.com">this</a> [emsenn.com]. You can also install <a href="http://www.torproject.org/" title="torproject.org">Tor</a> [torproject.org]. I respect your wishes, but must warn you that getting involved against a foreign nation might not be the smartest idea.<div><p>
I will demure and let you decide for yourself. Information is meant to be free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Read this [ emsenn.com ] .
You can also install Tor [ torproject.org ] .
I respect your wishes , but must warn you that getting involved against a foreign nation might not be the smartest idea .
I will demure and let you decide for yourself .
Information is meant to be free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Read this [emsenn.com].
You can also install Tor [torproject.org].
I respect your wishes, but must warn you that getting involved against a foreign nation might not be the smartest idea.
I will demure and let you decide for yourself.
Information is meant to be free.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395223</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395757</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245405900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You could say they're trying to help, or you could say they're trying to further American interests by supporting dissidents and sowing disorder in Iran to attempt to oust the government that the people voted for and clearly want in power.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You could say they 're trying to help , or you could say they 're trying to further American interests by supporting dissidents and sowing disorder in Iran to attempt to oust the government that the people voted for and clearly want in power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could say they're trying to help, or you could say they're trying to further American interests by supporting dissidents and sowing disorder in Iran to attempt to oust the government that the people voted for and clearly want in power.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395391</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28476853</id>
	<title>Re:skeptical</title>
	<author>NetLarry</author>
	<datestamp>1245946500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Shah's agents were purportedly in Indiana at the time [early-mid 70s] (Purdue University) as well.  The Iranian Students Association members wore masks during their protests in front of Hovde Hall to prevent the easy identification of the protesters for subsequent "punishment" of their family members back in Iran. There were people taking photographs of the protesters, and we did not believe they were all journalists.  Fortunately the Purdue Police department was within view of the protest area and yelling was the most violence noted.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Shah 's agents were purportedly in Indiana at the time [ early-mid 70s ] ( Purdue University ) as well .
The Iranian Students Association members wore masks during their protests in front of Hovde Hall to prevent the easy identification of the protesters for subsequent " punishment " of their family members back in Iran .
There were people taking photographs of the protesters , and we did not believe they were all journalists .
Fortunately the Purdue Police department was within view of the protest area and yelling was the most violence noted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Shah's agents were purportedly in Indiana at the time [early-mid 70s] (Purdue University) as well.
The Iranian Students Association members wore masks during their protests in front of Hovde Hall to prevent the easy identification of the protesters for subsequent "punishment" of their family members back in Iran.
There were people taking photographs of the protesters, and we did not believe they were all journalists.
Fortunately the Purdue Police department was within view of the protest area and yelling was the most violence noted.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395813</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28399293</id>
	<title>Re:Do this stuff ANONYMOUSLY as possible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245433560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why not just get cash and change it, then pay with that? Even an anonymous card has timestamps associated with it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not just get cash and change it , then pay with that ?
Even an anonymous card has timestamps associated with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not just get cash and change it, then pay with that?
Even an anonymous card has timestamps associated with it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395159</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28401951</id>
	<title>Re:Right, that's the only reason</title>
	<author>Xest</author>
	<datestamp>1245513900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem with US intervention isn't that of harder crack down, you're mistaken in not understanding what the problem with it is.</p><p>The problem with US intervention is that even many of the protestors absolutely hate the US. There are hundreds of thousands of those protestors who would rather spite the US than spite the Ayatollah, whilst the US etc. stay out of it there is no "Iranian leadership vs. West" thing, it's a purely internal Iranian affair which all Iranians want to sort out. If the West gets involved and starts taking sides it turns into an "Iranian leadership vs. West" thing and many more will rally against the West because they hate us that much more.</p><p>Why do they hate us? Well, the very Iraq war you seem to think is empowering them to push for free elections is a damn good starting point.</p><p>Let the citizens of the West show their support because it's a good way for them to realise we're not all bad, get our leadership involved though and it becomes a Western attempt to control Iran. The last thing we want to do right now is split the protest movement - let it stay solid, let it stay together against the Ayatollah rather than be split against the West.</p><p>If the West is going to get involved it has to make sure one thing has happened - that the Iranian protestors now hate their leadership enough to side wholly with the West over their leadership, as yet we cannot be sure we're at that stage and again, we'd likely just split and hence weaken the movement. It's somewhat sad but I imagine a lot of protestors are going to have to die yet so that the protest movement becomes angry enough to think that maybe the West, the US in particular aren't that bad so that the US can lend their support.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem with US intervention is n't that of harder crack down , you 're mistaken in not understanding what the problem with it is.The problem with US intervention is that even many of the protestors absolutely hate the US .
There are hundreds of thousands of those protestors who would rather spite the US than spite the Ayatollah , whilst the US etc .
stay out of it there is no " Iranian leadership vs. West " thing , it 's a purely internal Iranian affair which all Iranians want to sort out .
If the West gets involved and starts taking sides it turns into an " Iranian leadership vs. West " thing and many more will rally against the West because they hate us that much more.Why do they hate us ?
Well , the very Iraq war you seem to think is empowering them to push for free elections is a damn good starting point.Let the citizens of the West show their support because it 's a good way for them to realise we 're not all bad , get our leadership involved though and it becomes a Western attempt to control Iran .
The last thing we want to do right now is split the protest movement - let it stay solid , let it stay together against the Ayatollah rather than be split against the West.If the West is going to get involved it has to make sure one thing has happened - that the Iranian protestors now hate their leadership enough to side wholly with the West over their leadership , as yet we can not be sure we 're at that stage and again , we 'd likely just split and hence weaken the movement .
It 's somewhat sad but I imagine a lot of protestors are going to have to die yet so that the protest movement becomes angry enough to think that maybe the West , the US in particular are n't that bad so that the US can lend their support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem with US intervention isn't that of harder crack down, you're mistaken in not understanding what the problem with it is.The problem with US intervention is that even many of the protestors absolutely hate the US.
There are hundreds of thousands of those protestors who would rather spite the US than spite the Ayatollah, whilst the US etc.
stay out of it there is no "Iranian leadership vs. West" thing, it's a purely internal Iranian affair which all Iranians want to sort out.
If the West gets involved and starts taking sides it turns into an "Iranian leadership vs. West" thing and many more will rally against the West because they hate us that much more.Why do they hate us?
Well, the very Iraq war you seem to think is empowering them to push for free elections is a damn good starting point.Let the citizens of the West show their support because it's a good way for them to realise we're not all bad, get our leadership involved though and it becomes a Western attempt to control Iran.
The last thing we want to do right now is split the protest movement - let it stay solid, let it stay together against the Ayatollah rather than be split against the West.If the West is going to get involved it has to make sure one thing has happened - that the Iranian protestors now hate their leadership enough to side wholly with the West over their leadership, as yet we cannot be sure we're at that stage and again, we'd likely just split and hence weaken the movement.
It's somewhat sad but I imagine a lot of protestors are going to have to die yet so that the protest movement becomes angry enough to think that maybe the West, the US in particular aren't that bad so that the US can lend their support.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395345</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396211</id>
	<title>Re:Meddlesome</title>
	<author>Spotless Tiger</author>
	<datestamp>1245407940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
No, this is why <i>Browncoats</i> are hated, no matter what the discussion they still manage to make it about <i>Firefly</i>.
</p><p>
For the love of crap: a man is attacked for helping Iranian dissidents, and you jump in the thread with the wisdom of <i>River Tam</i>? Really?
</p><p>
Look, it's over. The show got canceled. Get over it. Move on. It was never that good to start with, it just achieved mythological status because (a) Joss Whedon was involved and (b) the show wasn't treated well by Fox. In reality, it was a poor concept that didn't really work and would never have gained an audience had the show had a normal run.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , this is why Browncoats are hated , no matter what the discussion they still manage to make it about Firefly .
For the love of crap : a man is attacked for helping Iranian dissidents , and you jump in the thread with the wisdom of River Tam ?
Really ? Look , it 's over .
The show got canceled .
Get over it .
Move on .
It was never that good to start with , it just achieved mythological status because ( a ) Joss Whedon was involved and ( b ) the show was n't treated well by Fox .
In reality , it was a poor concept that did n't really work and would never have gained an audience had the show had a normal run .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
No, this is why Browncoats are hated, no matter what the discussion they still manage to make it about Firefly.
For the love of crap: a man is attacked for helping Iranian dissidents, and you jump in the thread with the wisdom of River Tam?
Really?

Look, it's over.
The show got canceled.
Get over it.
Move on.
It was never that good to start with, it just achieved mythological status because (a) Joss Whedon was involved and (b) the show wasn't treated well by Fox.
In reality, it was a poor concept that didn't really work and would never have gained an audience had the show had a normal run.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395901</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28406565</id>
	<title>Re:Another Note on this.</title>
	<author>iphayd</author>
	<datestamp>1245508380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No one's thinking about the other part of the puzzle. The iranian government is free to use these proxies for whatever evil they want to strike up. Your proxy for a free Iran may just be the conduit for an attempt to hack into the pentagon, and you aren't any more the wiser.</p><p>I support the people of Iran accessing the internet (as well as all humans) and communicating. I support those that know how to properly setup a nicely sandboxed proxy with access going to only facebook and twitter. However, if you don't know what you are doing, you can help whatever enemy you perceive you are fighting against, as well as get yourself in a whole lot of trouble.</p><p>Remember, you are essentially becoming a combatant in what is looking like a foreign civil war. Do you really understand the battle?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No one 's thinking about the other part of the puzzle .
The iranian government is free to use these proxies for whatever evil they want to strike up .
Your proxy for a free Iran may just be the conduit for an attempt to hack into the pentagon , and you are n't any more the wiser.I support the people of Iran accessing the internet ( as well as all humans ) and communicating .
I support those that know how to properly setup a nicely sandboxed proxy with access going to only facebook and twitter .
However , if you do n't know what you are doing , you can help whatever enemy you perceive you are fighting against , as well as get yourself in a whole lot of trouble.Remember , you are essentially becoming a combatant in what is looking like a foreign civil war .
Do you really understand the battle ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No one's thinking about the other part of the puzzle.
The iranian government is free to use these proxies for whatever evil they want to strike up.
Your proxy for a free Iran may just be the conduit for an attempt to hack into the pentagon, and you aren't any more the wiser.I support the people of Iran accessing the internet (as well as all humans) and communicating.
I support those that know how to properly setup a nicely sandboxed proxy with access going to only facebook and twitter.
However, if you don't know what you are doing, you can help whatever enemy you perceive you are fighting against, as well as get yourself in a whole lot of trouble.Remember, you are essentially becoming a combatant in what is looking like a foreign civil war.
Do you really understand the battle?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28399567</id>
	<title>American mob</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245437520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I see an almost unanimous American attitude that this elections was a travesty.  I attribute it to wishful thinking and people latching on to what ever confirms their bias.  Objectively it is possibly a stolen election but evidence is rather elusive.  It is only reasonable to act in a fashion that accepts the possibility the election was not taken from the winner.  However I do enjoy seeing the sharing of our American ideals regarding censorship, petiton and peaceful assembly (even as we struggle to live up to  our ideals).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I see an almost unanimous American attitude that this elections was a travesty .
I attribute it to wishful thinking and people latching on to what ever confirms their bias .
Objectively it is possibly a stolen election but evidence is rather elusive .
It is only reasonable to act in a fashion that accepts the possibility the election was not taken from the winner .
However I do enjoy seeing the sharing of our American ideals regarding censorship , petiton and peaceful assembly ( even as we struggle to live up to our ideals ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see an almost unanimous American attitude that this elections was a travesty.
I attribute it to wishful thinking and people latching on to what ever confirms their bias.
Objectively it is possibly a stolen election but evidence is rather elusive.
It is only reasonable to act in a fashion that accepts the possibility the election was not taken from the winner.
However I do enjoy seeing the sharing of our American ideals regarding censorship, petiton and peaceful assembly (even as we struggle to live up to  our ideals).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395595</id>
	<title>Re:The Grotesquely Ugly Truth</title>
	<author>poetmatt</author>
	<datestamp>1245405240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>your idea here is just going to promote a whole lot of nothing. Oh, it will provoke serious Iranian hatred of the US though.</p><p>Condemn an entire country's culture?</p><p>That's like condemning the country North Korea for what is the choice of a dictator. It's not the country's fault that they're basically living at gunpoint. I don't like XYZ object but condemning it does nothing.</p><p>Why don't you go back to whatever you support when you use logic instead of what I am replying to on this one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>your idea here is just going to promote a whole lot of nothing .
Oh , it will provoke serious Iranian hatred of the US though.Condemn an entire country 's culture ? That 's like condemning the country North Korea for what is the choice of a dictator .
It 's not the country 's fault that they 're basically living at gunpoint .
I do n't like XYZ object but condemning it does nothing.Why do n't you go back to whatever you support when you use logic instead of what I am replying to on this one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>your idea here is just going to promote a whole lot of nothing.
Oh, it will provoke serious Iranian hatred of the US though.Condemn an entire country's culture?That's like condemning the country North Korea for what is the choice of a dictator.
It's not the country's fault that they're basically living at gunpoint.
I don't like XYZ object but condemning it does nothing.Why don't you go back to whatever you support when you use logic instead of what I am replying to on this one.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396053</id>
	<title>well now look whose face is red</title>
	<author>bitt3n</author>
	<datestamp>1245407280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I bet all those people who blithely sat on their hands while Iran developed rock-throwing technology must be feeling pretty foolish.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet all those people who blithely sat on their hands while Iran developed rock-throwing technology must be feeling pretty foolish .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet all those people who blithely sat on their hands while Iran developed rock-throwing technology must be feeling pretty foolish.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395365</id>
	<title>Wow</title>
	<author>Dega704</author>
	<datestamp>1245404340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The department of homeland security should be all over that soon if they aren't too busy confiscating laptops at the airports......</htmltext>
<tokenext>The department of homeland security should be all over that soon if they are n't too busy confiscating laptops at the airports..... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The department of homeland security should be all over that soon if they aren't too busy confiscating laptops at the airports......</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396007</id>
	<title>Is This News?: +1, Insightful</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245406980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are many people attacked everyday  in the lawless United States of America.</p><p>What makes this news?</p><p>P.S. Iran has done an excellent job of preventing news about the election results getting to the rest of the world.</p><p>Yours In Peace,<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juV5T1zarR4&amp;feature=related" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">Kilgore Trout</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are many people attacked everyday in the lawless United States of America.What makes this news ? P.S .
Iran has done an excellent job of preventing news about the election results getting to the rest of the world.Yours In Peace,Kilgore Trout [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are many people attacked everyday  in the lawless United States of America.What makes this news?P.S.
Iran has done an excellent job of preventing news about the election results getting to the rest of the world.Yours In Peace,Kilgore Trout [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395091</id>
	<title>It will be ugly</title>
	<author>Pecisk</author>
	<datestamp>1245403380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Islam hardliners see current Iran's regime as only force who can stand against 'Western corruption'. They are desperate as they influence around the world shrinks after more moderate US goverment came into power. So it propably wasn't ordered attack, just people who sees current democratical movement with Mousavi as leader as real threat for the regime.</p><p>So this fight will echo around the world. If you support those guys in Iran, be ready to take some hits. Let's hope there won't be killings or something, but it will be ugly nevertheless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Islam hardliners see current Iran 's regime as only force who can stand against 'Western corruption' .
They are desperate as they influence around the world shrinks after more moderate US goverment came into power .
So it propably was n't ordered attack , just people who sees current democratical movement with Mousavi as leader as real threat for the regime.So this fight will echo around the world .
If you support those guys in Iran , be ready to take some hits .
Let 's hope there wo n't be killings or something , but it will be ugly nevertheless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Islam hardliners see current Iran's regime as only force who can stand against 'Western corruption'.
They are desperate as they influence around the world shrinks after more moderate US goverment came into power.
So it propably wasn't ordered attack, just people who sees current democratical movement with Mousavi as leader as real threat for the regime.So this fight will echo around the world.
If you support those guys in Iran, be ready to take some hits.
Let's hope there won't be killings or something, but it will be ugly nevertheless.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395389</id>
	<title>That guy better be careful</title>
	<author>NaCh0</author>
	<datestamp>1245404400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He should google Daniel Pearl to know what he's getting into.</p><p>I too wish everyone respected each other in a peaceful fashion but clearly that's not the case.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He should google Daniel Pearl to know what he 's getting into.I too wish everyone respected each other in a peaceful fashion but clearly that 's not the case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He should google Daniel Pearl to know what he's getting into.I too wish everyone respected each other in a peaceful fashion but clearly that's not the case.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28403081</id>
	<title>Re:Lock and Load.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245524100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Obviously small arms, this is slashdot, no one on here has big guns.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Obviously small arms , this is slashdot , no one on here has big guns .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obviously small arms, this is slashdot, no one on here has big guns.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395453</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397141</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>Ernst Hot</author>
	<datestamp>1245412740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Rocks are totally weapons of mass destruction.

Just takes a little more dedication.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rocks are totally weapons of mass destruction .
Just takes a little more dedication .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rocks are totally weapons of mass destruction.
Just takes a little more dedication.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395529</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395469</id>
	<title>Re:Homland Security Indeed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245404700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You do realize that "American Citizen" no longer means much these days.  They are just a statistic.</p><p>What counts are Multinational Corporations and goverment offices.  They have full voting power, the "citizens" have 3/5 or less it seems.  Grats, America, you're all nearly-disenfranchised (lol racism, we're all treated as poor minorities now).</p><p>Politicians don't have the time or incentive to protect you or me, individually.  But when a big corporate skyscraper or government building gets attacked, it becomes priority.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do realize that " American Citizen " no longer means much these days .
They are just a statistic.What counts are Multinational Corporations and goverment offices .
They have full voting power , the " citizens " have 3/5 or less it seems .
Grats , America , you 're all nearly-disenfranchised ( lol racism , we 're all treated as poor minorities now ) .Politicians do n't have the time or incentive to protect you or me , individually .
But when a big corporate skyscraper or government building gets attacked , it becomes priority .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You do realize that "American Citizen" no longer means much these days.
They are just a statistic.What counts are Multinational Corporations and goverment offices.
They have full voting power, the "citizens" have 3/5 or less it seems.
Grats, America, you're all nearly-disenfranchised (lol racism, we're all treated as poor minorities now).Politicians don't have the time or incentive to protect you or me, individually.
But when a big corporate skyscraper or government building gets attacked, it becomes priority.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395325</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396005</id>
	<title>Re:Homland Security Indeed</title>
	<author>phantomfive</author>
	<datestamp>1245406980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Free speech will never protect you from getting punched in the face after you've insulted someone.  It's important to be respectful, even on the internet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Free speech will never protect you from getting punched in the face after you 've insulted someone .
It 's important to be respectful , even on the internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Free speech will never protect you from getting punched in the face after you've insulted someone.
It's important to be respectful, even on the internet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395325</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395239</id>
	<title>Don't believe this blogger</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245403860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Islam is a religion of peace.  A truckload of swarthy 3rd world men is so Back To The Future.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Islam is a religion of peace .
A truckload of swarthy 3rd world men is so Back To The Future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Islam is a religion of peace.
A truckload of swarthy 3rd world men is so Back To The Future.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396345</id>
	<title>Re:Right, that's the only reason</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1245408660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>So Democracy in Iraq, neighbors to Iran, had no influence at all on Iranians *also* wanting real elections?</p></div></blockquote><p>Probably not. Iran had a real reform movement before the US invasion of Iraq, which was largely derailed, with the aid of the propaganda boost given to the hardline elements by the belligerence of the US in the region (and the invective direct at Iran as part of an "Axis of Evil" in particular) during the last administration.</p><p>The "Democracy in Iraq" hasn't been considered much of a showpiece for emulation outside of the same group of people in the West who were cheerleaders for the war in the first place.</p><blockquote><div><p>And speaking of moderate administrations, if students here and abroad are willing to take hits, perhaps the President of the U.S. should be as well. And before you repeat the mistaken idea that Iran will crack down harder if the U.S. spoke in support of the protestors, jut what do you think is happening today?</p></div></blockquote><p>The problem isn't that Khamenei will try to crack down harder if the US takes sides, the problem is that the US taking sides, rather than merely supporting, generally, an end to violence and fair results, validates Khamenei's propaganda that the West, particularly the US and Britain, are behind the reform movement and that it is not a genuine, broad-based, organic domestic opposition. This could well undermine support for the opposition.</p><p>Its not a mistake that the people in the US most vigorously wanting the President to take sides are the same people that openly expressed that <i>either</i> Iranian candidate winning would result in Iran continuing to be an "enemy" of the United States, and even in many cases that it was better if <i>Ahmadinejad</i> won, since that way we'd have a clear and unmistakeable enemy rather than a "reformer" that it might <i>seem</i> we could work with.</p><blockquote><div><p>Expressing support and best wishes for the protestors gives them a boost in spirit that they need if they are to succeed.</p></div> </blockquote><p>I think its pretty insulting to the Iranian opposition, especially given the "spirit" they have demonstrated thus far, to suggest that their morale will crack if they aren't given an explicit and direct endorsement by a foreign leader, particularly the leader of a country that has pointed to their nation as an enemy for decades.</p><blockquote><div><p>Even the president of France has come out strongly in favor of the protestors...</p></div></blockquote><p>France is not the US, or the UK, so the political dynamic with respect to Iran is different. Franco-Iranian relations have been far more friendly than those of the US or UK with Iran, which means that individual instances of French criticism of Iranian government action don't feed into easy government propaganda narratives about manipulation by longstanding enemies.</p></div>
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<tokenext>So Democracy in Iraq , neighbors to Iran , had no influence at all on Iranians * also * wanting real elections ? Probably not .
Iran had a real reform movement before the US invasion of Iraq , which was largely derailed , with the aid of the propaganda boost given to the hardline elements by the belligerence of the US in the region ( and the invective direct at Iran as part of an " Axis of Evil " in particular ) during the last administration.The " Democracy in Iraq " has n't been considered much of a showpiece for emulation outside of the same group of people in the West who were cheerleaders for the war in the first place.And speaking of moderate administrations , if students here and abroad are willing to take hits , perhaps the President of the U.S. should be as well .
And before you repeat the mistaken idea that Iran will crack down harder if the U.S. spoke in support of the protestors , jut what do you think is happening today ? The problem is n't that Khamenei will try to crack down harder if the US takes sides , the problem is that the US taking sides , rather than merely supporting , generally , an end to violence and fair results , validates Khamenei 's propaganda that the West , particularly the US and Britain , are behind the reform movement and that it is not a genuine , broad-based , organic domestic opposition .
This could well undermine support for the opposition.Its not a mistake that the people in the US most vigorously wanting the President to take sides are the same people that openly expressed that either Iranian candidate winning would result in Iran continuing to be an " enemy " of the United States , and even in many cases that it was better if Ahmadinejad won , since that way we 'd have a clear and unmistakeable enemy rather than a " reformer " that it might seem we could work with.Expressing support and best wishes for the protestors gives them a boost in spirit that they need if they are to succeed .
I think its pretty insulting to the Iranian opposition , especially given the " spirit " they have demonstrated thus far , to suggest that their morale will crack if they are n't given an explicit and direct endorsement by a foreign leader , particularly the leader of a country that has pointed to their nation as an enemy for decades.Even the president of France has come out strongly in favor of the protestors...France is not the US , or the UK , so the political dynamic with respect to Iran is different .
Franco-Iranian relations have been far more friendly than those of the US or UK with Iran , which means that individual instances of French criticism of Iranian government action do n't feed into easy government propaganda narratives about manipulation by longstanding enemies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Democracy in Iraq, neighbors to Iran, had no influence at all on Iranians *also* wanting real elections?Probably not.
Iran had a real reform movement before the US invasion of Iraq, which was largely derailed, with the aid of the propaganda boost given to the hardline elements by the belligerence of the US in the region (and the invective direct at Iran as part of an "Axis of Evil" in particular) during the last administration.The "Democracy in Iraq" hasn't been considered much of a showpiece for emulation outside of the same group of people in the West who were cheerleaders for the war in the first place.And speaking of moderate administrations, if students here and abroad are willing to take hits, perhaps the President of the U.S. should be as well.
And before you repeat the mistaken idea that Iran will crack down harder if the U.S. spoke in support of the protestors, jut what do you think is happening today?The problem isn't that Khamenei will try to crack down harder if the US takes sides, the problem is that the US taking sides, rather than merely supporting, generally, an end to violence and fair results, validates Khamenei's propaganda that the West, particularly the US and Britain, are behind the reform movement and that it is not a genuine, broad-based, organic domestic opposition.
This could well undermine support for the opposition.Its not a mistake that the people in the US most vigorously wanting the President to take sides are the same people that openly expressed that either Iranian candidate winning would result in Iran continuing to be an "enemy" of the United States, and even in many cases that it was better if Ahmadinejad won, since that way we'd have a clear and unmistakeable enemy rather than a "reformer" that it might seem we could work with.Expressing support and best wishes for the protestors gives them a boost in spirit that they need if they are to succeed.
I think its pretty insulting to the Iranian opposition, especially given the "spirit" they have demonstrated thus far, to suggest that their morale will crack if they aren't given an explicit and direct endorsement by a foreign leader, particularly the leader of a country that has pointed to their nation as an enemy for decades.Even the president of France has come out strongly in favor of the protestors...France is not the US, or the UK, so the political dynamic with respect to Iran is different.
Franco-Iranian relations have been far more friendly than those of the US or UK with Iran, which means that individual instances of French criticism of Iranian government action don't feed into easy government propaganda narratives about manipulation by longstanding enemies.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395121</id>
	<title>wonder how he could have protected himself?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245403500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>if only they allowed concealed carry on campuses, we'd have a few less rock throwers in this country. . .</p><p>
&nbsp; . .<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.provided the fact he has a gun, and knows how to use it of course</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>if only they allowed concealed carry on campuses , we 'd have a few less rock throwers in this country .
. .
  .
. .provided the fact he has a gun , and knows how to use it of course</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if only they allowed concealed carry on campuses, we'd have a few less rock throwers in this country.
. .
  .
. .provided the fact he has a gun, and knows how to use it of course</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395729</id>
	<title>People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245405780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unless your adulterous sister is inside.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless your adulterous sister is inside .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless your adulterous sister is inside.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28398461</id>
	<title>Comparing and contrasting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245423840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just when you thought Iran was a monoculture with everyone voicing and toeing the official government line, bang!, protesters (strongly) against the government.  Just when you thought the current, old, hard-ass hard-line regime was purely and perpetually sour at the west just because we are in the west, BANG!,  you fully understand them in context with their own people.  Lie, cheat, steal to stay in power (like cheap pocket dictators the world over).  Its not because the others are unqualified to govern/lead, or that the others may not have earned the job, no, these cheap pocket dictators obtained power by fiat.  They lied/stole/cheated/killed to grab power, and will do any and all of the previous to maintain their hold on power.  Getting rid of them is always a pain-in-the-ass.  There are some in China (they call themselves communists), there are some in Iran (claiming a theocracy), there are some in Burma (going under the guise of a military junta), some in Russia (not sure of the title, but former KGB/communists), one in North Korea (communist dictatorship, rule for life, and as the power is absolute and now looking hereditary, more and more like a kingdom), and others.  Iranians may have to wait for the political freedom they desire.  In Chile, they had to wait till Pinochet was mostly dead.  In Cambodia, the sonofabitch Pol Pot who was responsible for the death of millions didn't really get any justice till a stroke and heart attack finally killed him.  In Iran, Ayatollah replaces Ayatollah.  There is no end to them.  If they don't ever want to let go of their grip on power, you will have to force power from them.  It might not be a fun job, but if Iranians want freedom (not imposed on them from some outside power, but taken internally on their own behalf), they will have to take it.  If those who have it insist on keeping it by all means necessary, then those who want it but don't have it, will have to use all means necessary.  It seems we are living in interesting times.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just when you thought Iran was a monoculture with everyone voicing and toeing the official government line , bang ! , protesters ( strongly ) against the government .
Just when you thought the current , old , hard-ass hard-line regime was purely and perpetually sour at the west just because we are in the west , BANG ! , you fully understand them in context with their own people .
Lie , cheat , steal to stay in power ( like cheap pocket dictators the world over ) .
Its not because the others are unqualified to govern/lead , or that the others may not have earned the job , no , these cheap pocket dictators obtained power by fiat .
They lied/stole/cheated/killed to grab power , and will do any and all of the previous to maintain their hold on power .
Getting rid of them is always a pain-in-the-ass .
There are some in China ( they call themselves communists ) , there are some in Iran ( claiming a theocracy ) , there are some in Burma ( going under the guise of a military junta ) , some in Russia ( not sure of the title , but former KGB/communists ) , one in North Korea ( communist dictatorship , rule for life , and as the power is absolute and now looking hereditary , more and more like a kingdom ) , and others .
Iranians may have to wait for the political freedom they desire .
In Chile , they had to wait till Pinochet was mostly dead .
In Cambodia , the sonofabitch Pol Pot who was responsible for the death of millions did n't really get any justice till a stroke and heart attack finally killed him .
In Iran , Ayatollah replaces Ayatollah .
There is no end to them .
If they do n't ever want to let go of their grip on power , you will have to force power from them .
It might not be a fun job , but if Iranians want freedom ( not imposed on them from some outside power , but taken internally on their own behalf ) , they will have to take it .
If those who have it insist on keeping it by all means necessary , then those who want it but do n't have it , will have to use all means necessary .
It seems we are living in interesting times .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just when you thought Iran was a monoculture with everyone voicing and toeing the official government line, bang!, protesters (strongly) against the government.
Just when you thought the current, old, hard-ass hard-line regime was purely and perpetually sour at the west just because we are in the west, BANG!,  you fully understand them in context with their own people.
Lie, cheat, steal to stay in power (like cheap pocket dictators the world over).
Its not because the others are unqualified to govern/lead, or that the others may not have earned the job, no, these cheap pocket dictators obtained power by fiat.
They lied/stole/cheated/killed to grab power, and will do any and all of the previous to maintain their hold on power.
Getting rid of them is always a pain-in-the-ass.
There are some in China (they call themselves communists), there are some in Iran (claiming a theocracy), there are some in Burma (going under the guise of a military junta), some in Russia (not sure of the title, but former KGB/communists), one in North Korea (communist dictatorship, rule for life, and as the power is absolute and now looking hereditary, more and more like a kingdom), and others.
Iranians may have to wait for the political freedom they desire.
In Chile, they had to wait till Pinochet was mostly dead.
In Cambodia, the sonofabitch Pol Pot who was responsible for the death of millions didn't really get any justice till a stroke and heart attack finally killed him.
In Iran, Ayatollah replaces Ayatollah.
There is no end to them.
If they don't ever want to let go of their grip on power, you will have to force power from them.
It might not be a fun job, but if Iranians want freedom (not imposed on them from some outside power, but taken internally on their own behalf), they will have to take it.
If those who have it insist on keeping it by all means necessary, then those who want it but don't have it, will have to use all means necessary.
It seems we are living in interesting times.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28398429</id>
	<title>Re:What?!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245423420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They know who the real warriors are. Kah'plah!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They know who the real warriors are .
Kah'plah !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They know who the real warriors are.
Kah'plah!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396649</id>
	<title>Quiz</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245410100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Those Americans who cannot name the prime minister of Canada or the president of Mexico should quit politics and not be agents of U.S. propaganda.<br>I have not seen any proof of a stolen election by the Western press.  I have seen documented polls showing 2/3 Iranian support for Ahmadinejad. I think those trying to steal the Iran election are a minority of wealthy Iranians and the U.S. and its allies.<br>Everyone should know now that the Western press are liars. Below is a link exposing the BBC using a cropped photo of a pro-Ahmadinejad rally and claiming it is a protest rally.<br>http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/june2009/061809\_iran\_propaganda.htm</p><p>I only wish that rock knocked that blogger's teeth out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Those Americans who can not name the prime minister of Canada or the president of Mexico should quit politics and not be agents of U.S. propaganda.I have not seen any proof of a stolen election by the Western press .
I have seen documented polls showing 2/3 Iranian support for Ahmadinejad .
I think those trying to steal the Iran election are a minority of wealthy Iranians and the U.S. and its allies.Everyone should know now that the Western press are liars .
Below is a link exposing the BBC using a cropped photo of a pro-Ahmadinejad rally and claiming it is a protest rally.http : //www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/june2009/061809 \ _iran \ _propaganda.htmI only wish that rock knocked that blogger 's teeth out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those Americans who cannot name the prime minister of Canada or the president of Mexico should quit politics and not be agents of U.S. propaganda.I have not seen any proof of a stolen election by the Western press.
I have seen documented polls showing 2/3 Iranian support for Ahmadinejad.
I think those trying to steal the Iran election are a minority of wealthy Iranians and the U.S. and its allies.Everyone should know now that the Western press are liars.
Below is a link exposing the BBC using a cropped photo of a pro-Ahmadinejad rally and claiming it is a protest rally.http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/june2009/061809\_iran\_propaganda.htmI only wish that rock knocked that blogger's teeth out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397083</id>
	<title>Re:Right, that's the only reason</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245412320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>So Democracy in Iraq, neighbors to Iran, had no influence at all on Iranians *also* wanting real elections?</i>

<p>Even compared to Iran Iraq is currently a shithole so I doubt that Iraq had any influence on the current protests.</p><p>I actually think the fact that Bush - the man who branded Iran as a member of the axis of evil - is no longer in power, coupled with the election of Obama - who sent Iran a congratulatory message on Iranian New Year's - is the reason why the Iranian public wants to replace Ahmadinejad. The US public did their part by replacing Bush, now the Iranian public wants to do its part by replacing Ahmadinejad in order to pave the way for better relations.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So Democracy in Iraq , neighbors to Iran , had no influence at all on Iranians * also * wanting real elections ?
Even compared to Iran Iraq is currently a shithole so I doubt that Iraq had any influence on the current protests.I actually think the fact that Bush - the man who branded Iran as a member of the axis of evil - is no longer in power , coupled with the election of Obama - who sent Iran a congratulatory message on Iranian New Year 's - is the reason why the Iranian public wants to replace Ahmadinejad .
The US public did their part by replacing Bush , now the Iranian public wants to do its part by replacing Ahmadinejad in order to pave the way for better relations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Democracy in Iraq, neighbors to Iran, had no influence at all on Iranians *also* wanting real elections?
Even compared to Iran Iraq is currently a shithole so I doubt that Iraq had any influence on the current protests.I actually think the fact that Bush - the man who branded Iran as a member of the axis of evil - is no longer in power, coupled with the election of Obama - who sent Iran a congratulatory message on Iranian New Year's - is the reason why the Iranian public wants to replace Ahmadinejad.
The US public did their part by replacing Bush, now the Iranian public wants to do its part by replacing Ahmadinejad in order to pave the way for better relations.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396219</id>
	<title>Re:Don't believe this blogger</title>
	<author>K. S. Kyosuke</author>
	<datestamp>1245408000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What if the tanned foreigner has a heavy accent, changing the quality of the vowel?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What if the tanned foreigner has a heavy accent , changing the quality of the vowel ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if the tanned foreigner has a heavy accent, changing the quality of the vowel?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395405</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395325</id>
	<title>Homland Security Indeed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245404160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that, apparently, a foreign government identified an American Citizen and had operatives attack that individual? On US Soil? I wonder if there will be hit squads next, or teams of operatives attempting to sabotage servers where proxies are being hosted... <br> <br>

This is exactly why free speech is so critical - so that I can, for example, post a comment on Slashdot without worrying about thugs attacking me for it. Flames and trolls are one thing, angry guys throwing rocks at my car? Quite another.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that , apparently , a foreign government identified an American Citizen and had operatives attack that individual ?
On US Soil ?
I wonder if there will be hit squads next , or teams of operatives attempting to sabotage servers where proxies are being hosted.. . This is exactly why free speech is so critical - so that I can , for example , post a comment on Slashdot without worrying about thugs attacking me for it .
Flames and trolls are one thing , angry guys throwing rocks at my car ?
Quite another .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that, apparently, a foreign government identified an American Citizen and had operatives attack that individual?
On US Soil?
I wonder if there will be hit squads next, or teams of operatives attempting to sabotage servers where proxies are being hosted...  

This is exactly why free speech is so critical - so that I can, for example, post a comment on Slashdot without worrying about thugs attacking me for it.
Flames and trolls are one thing, angry guys throwing rocks at my car?
Quite another.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28398481</id>
	<title>Re:What?!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245424080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>especially as most Iranians would call it Farsi, not Persian.
<br>
<a href="http://www.kwintessential.co.uk/articles/article/Iran/Language-in-Iran/121" title="kwintessential.co.uk">http://www.kwintessential.co.uk/articles/article/Iran/Language-in-Iran/121</a> [kwintessential.co.uk]
<br>The ones I know do.</htmltext>
<tokenext>especially as most Iranians would call it Farsi , not Persian .
http : //www.kwintessential.co.uk/articles/article/Iran/Language-in-Iran/121 [ kwintessential.co.uk ] The ones I know do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>especially as most Iranians would call it Farsi, not Persian.
http://www.kwintessential.co.uk/articles/article/Iran/Language-in-Iran/121 [kwintessential.co.uk]
The ones I know do.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395393</id>
	<title>Re:Do this stuff ANONYMOUSLY as possible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245404400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well let's see how untraceable you are when Bruce Willis grabs some random hacker and has him find you using his phone, some cables, and some satellites.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well let 's see how untraceable you are when Bruce Willis grabs some random hacker and has him find you using his phone , some cables , and some satellites .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well let's see how untraceable you are when Bruce Willis grabs some random hacker and has him find you using his phone, some cables, and some satellites.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28398123</id>
	<title>I agree, it sure sounds like amateur  hour.</title>
	<author>jcr</author>
	<datestamp>1245420420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder, is Ohio a "shall-issue" state for concealed carry?  Rocks can be lethal, and if anyone was throwing rocks at me to make a political point, I'd sure as hell want to be carrying something rather more effective.</p><p>-jcr</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder , is Ohio a " shall-issue " state for concealed carry ?
Rocks can be lethal , and if anyone was throwing rocks at me to make a political point , I 'd sure as hell want to be carrying something rather more effective.-jcr</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder, is Ohio a "shall-issue" state for concealed carry?
Rocks can be lethal, and if anyone was throwing rocks at me to make a political point, I'd sure as hell want to be carrying something rather more effective.-jcr</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395077</id>
	<title>Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245403320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A man on US soil gets attacked by agents of a foreign government.</p><p>Slashdot response: "It's the US's fault".</p><p>Discuss.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A man on US soil gets attacked by agents of a foreign government.Slashdot response : " It 's the US 's fault " .Discuss .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A man on US soil gets attacked by agents of a foreign government.Slashdot response: "It's the US's fault".Discuss.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396465</id>
	<title>Re:Lock and Load.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245409260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In which case, he should probably LOAD first, and then LOCK, otherwise he ain't defending shit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In which case , he should probably LOAD first , and then LOCK , otherwise he ai n't defending shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In which case, he should probably LOAD first, and then LOCK, otherwise he ain't defending shit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28428441</id>
	<title>Re:Right, that's the only reason</title>
	<author>scot4875</author>
	<datestamp>1245663660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>So Democracy in Iraq, neighbors to Iran, had no influence at all on Iranians *also* wanting real elections?</p></div></blockquote><p>Yes, clearly the Iranians saw how well democracy is working out for Iraq, what with all the sudden Iraqi prosperity.  It's only natural that Iran's citizens would want it for themselves.</p><p>--Jeremy</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So Democracy in Iraq , neighbors to Iran , had no influence at all on Iranians * also * wanting real elections ? Yes , clearly the Iranians saw how well democracy is working out for Iraq , what with all the sudden Iraqi prosperity .
It 's only natural that Iran 's citizens would want it for themselves.--Jeremy</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Democracy in Iraq, neighbors to Iran, had no influence at all on Iranians *also* wanting real elections?Yes, clearly the Iranians saw how well democracy is working out for Iraq, what with all the sudden Iraqi prosperity.
It's only natural that Iran's citizens would want it for themselves.--Jeremy
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28400759</id>
	<title>Where does this infromation come from?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245500100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know, what you call "counter-intelligence services (including Basiji and Army Locations) within the Twitter community" caused the death of at least 7 people until now, including a mother and a child that was near a Army location and got shot by rioters.<br>I think every Iranian, no matter where he lives, is angry about this situation.<br>Btw, not every simple American know the location of Iran's Army places, and it seems these guys had some sort of relation with intelligence officers from Israel, the only country that has spy stations in US.<br>http://www.chartingstocks.net/2009/06/proof-israeli-effort-to-destabilize-iran-via-twitter/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , what you call " counter-intelligence services ( including Basiji and Army Locations ) within the Twitter community " caused the death of at least 7 people until now , including a mother and a child that was near a Army location and got shot by rioters.I think every Iranian , no matter where he lives , is angry about this situation.Btw , not every simple American know the location of Iran 's Army places , and it seems these guys had some sort of relation with intelligence officers from Israel , the only country that has spy stations in US.http : //www.chartingstocks.net/2009/06/proof-israeli-effort-to-destabilize-iran-via-twitter/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, what you call "counter-intelligence services (including Basiji and Army Locations) within the Twitter community" caused the death of at least 7 people until now, including a mother and a child that was near a Army location and got shot by rioters.I think every Iranian, no matter where he lives, is angry about this situation.Btw, not every simple American know the location of Iran's Army places, and it seems these guys had some sort of relation with intelligence officers from Israel, the only country that has spy stations in US.http://www.chartingstocks.net/2009/06/proof-israeli-effort-to-destabilize-iran-via-twitter/</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397281</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-democracy</title>
	<author>Petrushka</author>
	<datestamp>1245413760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If Mousavi had won and violent protests had started in the face of electoral fraud,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>Can it not be about <i>both</i> wanting to see a genuine democratic election <i>and</i> wanting to see the slightly-less-evidently-supportive-of-a-fundamentalist-religious-regime guy win?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If Mousavi had won and violent protests had started in the face of electoral fraud , ...Can it not be about both wanting to see a genuine democratic election and wanting to see the slightly-less-evidently-supportive-of-a-fundamentalist-religious-regime guy win ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Mousavi had won and violent protests had started in the face of electoral fraud, ...Can it not be about both wanting to see a genuine democratic election and wanting to see the slightly-less-evidently-supportive-of-a-fundamentalist-religious-regime guy win?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395481</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395663</id>
	<title>Not flamebait, not a troll</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245405540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>but a legitimate political opinion that has been CENSORED by this user community.</p><p>Fucking pathetic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>but a legitimate political opinion that has been CENSORED by this user community.Fucking pathetic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but a legitimate political opinion that has been CENSORED by this user community.Fucking pathetic.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395121</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28398601</id>
	<title>Re:skeptical</title>
	<author>twostix</author>
	<datestamp>1245425460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well of course they did, given that the CIA was training them on US soil:</p><p>"In March 1955, the Army colonel was "replaced with a more permanent team of five career CIA officers, including specialists in covert operations, intelligence analysis, and counterintelligence,including Herbert Norman Schwarzkopf " who "trained virtually all of the first generation of SAVAK personnel." "</p><p>"The agency also closely collaborated with the American CIA by sending their agents to an air force base in New York to share and discuss interrogation tactics.[15]"</p><p>What Interrogation tactics?</p><p>"Brute force was supplemented with the bastinado; sleep deprivation; extensive solitary confinement; glaring searchlights; standing in one place for hours on end; nail extractions; snakes (favored for use with women); electrical shocks with cattle prods, often into the rectum; cigarette burns; sitting on hot grills; acid dripped into nostrils; near-drownings; mock executions; and an electric chair with a large metal mask to muffle screams while amplifying them for the victim. This latter contraption was dubbed the Apollo--an allusion to the American space capsules. Prisoners were also humiliated by being raped, urinated on, and forced to stand naked.[10] Despite the new 'scientific' methods, the torture of choice remained the traditional bastinado" used to beat soles of the feet. The "primary goal" of those using the bastinados "was to locate arms caches, safe houses and accomplices<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..." [11]"</p><p>Those "Interrogation" methods sound *awfully* familiar don't they?</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well of course they did , given that the CIA was training them on US soil : " In March 1955 , the Army colonel was " replaced with a more permanent team of five career CIA officers , including specialists in covert operations , intelligence analysis , and counterintelligence,including Herbert Norman Schwarzkopf " who " trained virtually all of the first generation of SAVAK personnel .
" " " The agency also closely collaborated with the American CIA by sending their agents to an air force base in New York to share and discuss interrogation tactics .
[ 15 ] " What Interrogation tactics ?
" Brute force was supplemented with the bastinado ; sleep deprivation ; extensive solitary confinement ; glaring searchlights ; standing in one place for hours on end ; nail extractions ; snakes ( favored for use with women ) ; electrical shocks with cattle prods , often into the rectum ; cigarette burns ; sitting on hot grills ; acid dripped into nostrils ; near-drownings ; mock executions ; and an electric chair with a large metal mask to muffle screams while amplifying them for the victim .
This latter contraption was dubbed the Apollo--an allusion to the American space capsules .
Prisoners were also humiliated by being raped , urinated on , and forced to stand naked .
[ 10 ] Despite the new 'scientific ' methods , the torture of choice remained the traditional bastinado " used to beat soles of the feet .
The " primary goal " of those using the bastinados " was to locate arms caches , safe houses and accomplices ... " [ 11 ] " Those " Interrogation " methods sound * awfully * familiar do n't they ? http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well of course they did, given that the CIA was training them on US soil:"In March 1955, the Army colonel was "replaced with a more permanent team of five career CIA officers, including specialists in covert operations, intelligence analysis, and counterintelligence,including Herbert Norman Schwarzkopf " who "trained virtually all of the first generation of SAVAK personnel.
" ""The agency also closely collaborated with the American CIA by sending their agents to an air force base in New York to share and discuss interrogation tactics.
[15]"What Interrogation tactics?
"Brute force was supplemented with the bastinado; sleep deprivation; extensive solitary confinement; glaring searchlights; standing in one place for hours on end; nail extractions; snakes (favored for use with women); electrical shocks with cattle prods, often into the rectum; cigarette burns; sitting on hot grills; acid dripped into nostrils; near-drownings; mock executions; and an electric chair with a large metal mask to muffle screams while amplifying them for the victim.
This latter contraption was dubbed the Apollo--an allusion to the American space capsules.
Prisoners were also humiliated by being raped, urinated on, and forced to stand naked.
[10] Despite the new 'scientific' methods, the torture of choice remained the traditional bastinado" used to beat soles of the feet.
The "primary goal" of those using the bastinados "was to locate arms caches, safe houses and accomplices ..." [11]"Those "Interrogation" methods sound *awfully* familiar don't they?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395571</id>
	<title>Re:It will be ugly</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1245405120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>So it probably wasn't ordered attack, just people who sees current democratical movement with Mousavi as leader as real threat for the regime.</i> I suppose you believe the Shah of Iran didn't have agents in the US spying on Iranian students here either. Oh, you poor naive little nerd... The current protests will accomplish nothing since there is no chance in hell the ruling elite will reverse themselves on this, but bringing their society to the brink of revolution might just convince them to have much better monitoring and checks and balances for the next election. But no matter who wins an election, Khameini still calls the shots.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So it probably was n't ordered attack , just people who sees current democratical movement with Mousavi as leader as real threat for the regime .
I suppose you believe the Shah of Iran did n't have agents in the US spying on Iranian students here either .
Oh , you poor naive little nerd... The current protests will accomplish nothing since there is no chance in hell the ruling elite will reverse themselves on this , but bringing their society to the brink of revolution might just convince them to have much better monitoring and checks and balances for the next election .
But no matter who wins an election , Khameini still calls the shots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So it probably wasn't ordered attack, just people who sees current democratical movement with Mousavi as leader as real threat for the regime.
I suppose you believe the Shah of Iran didn't have agents in the US spying on Iranian students here either.
Oh, you poor naive little nerd... The current protests will accomplish nothing since there is no chance in hell the ruling elite will reverse themselves on this, but bringing their society to the brink of revolution might just convince them to have much better monitoring and checks and balances for the next election.
But no matter who wins an election, Khameini still calls the shots.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395091</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396439</id>
	<title>I doubt it...</title>
	<author>Otter</author>
	<datestamp>1245409140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The men, who appeared to ProtesterHelp to be either Iranian or Lebanese...</p></div></blockquote><p>I'd take that to mean that he's guessing that they were Iranian or Lebanese. There's no common element in those two ethnicities that distinguishes them from Jordanians, Syrians or what have you. You might recognize an Iranian by face, dress or (obviously) language but not "either Iranian or Lebanese".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The men , who appeared to ProtesterHelp to be either Iranian or Lebanese...I 'd take that to mean that he 's guessing that they were Iranian or Lebanese .
There 's no common element in those two ethnicities that distinguishes them from Jordanians , Syrians or what have you .
You might recognize an Iranian by face , dress or ( obviously ) language but not " either Iranian or Lebanese " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The men, who appeared to ProtesterHelp to be either Iranian or Lebanese...I'd take that to mean that he's guessing that they were Iranian or Lebanese.
There's no common element in those two ethnicities that distinguishes them from Jordanians, Syrians or what have you.
You might recognize an Iranian by face, dress or (obviously) language but not "either Iranian or Lebanese".
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28398365</id>
	<title>So how long until we get hoodwinked into bombing?</title>
	<author>Fantastic Lad</author>
	<datestamp>1245422760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know!  --It's beyond cartoonish.  It's beyond silly.  But people actually eat this stuff up.</p><p>"Mission Accomplished!"  --Bush in flight gear.  It's SO dumb, but so are the people it's being aimed at, so yes, it will work.</p><p>Iranian civilians will be piled up in smoldering mountains of twisted limbs thanks to the 19 year-olds quivering with patriotic pride who will be dropping American bombs on them.</p><p>This stupid shit works for the same reason that people's mouths fill with gobs of Pavlovian saliva when they see a big yellow 'M'.</p><p>-FL</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know !
--It 's beyond cartoonish .
It 's beyond silly .
But people actually eat this stuff up .
" Mission Accomplished !
" --Bush in flight gear .
It 's SO dumb , but so are the people it 's being aimed at , so yes , it will work.Iranian civilians will be piled up in smoldering mountains of twisted limbs thanks to the 19 year-olds quivering with patriotic pride who will be dropping American bombs on them.This stupid shit works for the same reason that people 's mouths fill with gobs of Pavlovian saliva when they see a big yellow 'M'.-FL</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know!
--It's beyond cartoonish.
It's beyond silly.
But people actually eat this stuff up.
"Mission Accomplished!
"  --Bush in flight gear.
It's SO dumb, but so are the people it's being aimed at, so yes, it will work.Iranian civilians will be piled up in smoldering mountains of twisted limbs thanks to the 19 year-olds quivering with patriotic pride who will be dropping American bombs on them.This stupid shit works for the same reason that people's mouths fill with gobs of Pavlovian saliva when they see a big yellow 'M'.-FL</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395481</id>
	<title>Pro-democracy</title>
	<author>Arthur B.</author>
	<datestamp>1245404820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This isn't about democracy, although many people claim it is.</p><p>If Mousavi had won and violent protests had started in the face of electoral fraud, the press would be condemning the protesters as a violent minority clinging to a past order. Similarly, if the protest had started in the middle of Ahmadinejad's term, to oust him out, the press and most people living in the west would side with them. This is good, this is healthy. It'd be healthier if people acknowledged that is has nothing to do with democracy. If Mousavi will be less repressive than Ahmadinejad, then he should take his place, regardless of what the polls say.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't about democracy , although many people claim it is.If Mousavi had won and violent protests had started in the face of electoral fraud , the press would be condemning the protesters as a violent minority clinging to a past order .
Similarly , if the protest had started in the middle of Ahmadinejad 's term , to oust him out , the press and most people living in the west would side with them .
This is good , this is healthy .
It 'd be healthier if people acknowledged that is has nothing to do with democracy .
If Mousavi will be less repressive than Ahmadinejad , then he should take his place , regardless of what the polls say .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't about democracy, although many people claim it is.If Mousavi had won and violent protests had started in the face of electoral fraud, the press would be condemning the protesters as a violent minority clinging to a past order.
Similarly, if the protest had started in the middle of Ahmadinejad's term, to oust him out, the press and most people living in the west would side with them.
This is good, this is healthy.
It'd be healthier if people acknowledged that is has nothing to do with democracy.
If Mousavi will be less repressive than Ahmadinejad, then he should take his place, regardless of what the polls say.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396497</id>
	<title>Re:skeptical</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245409380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dayton, the community college. Dayton Police Department.</p><p>Did not go public, was outed.</p><p>Huffington Post tried to confirm but the police are not sharing the report, and I don't have a copy (nor did I think to get officer's name... I was a bit out of it, understandably)</p><p>Again, if you want more info, e-mail me at ph.on.twitter@gmail.com</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dayton , the community college .
Dayton Police Department.Did not go public , was outed.Huffington Post tried to confirm but the police are not sharing the report , and I do n't have a copy ( nor did I think to get officer 's name... I was a bit out of it , understandably ) Again , if you want more info , e-mail me at ph.on.twitter @ gmail.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dayton, the community college.
Dayton Police Department.Did not go public, was outed.Huffington Post tried to confirm but the police are not sharing the report, and I don't have a copy (nor did I think to get officer's name... I was a bit out of it, understandably)Again, if you want more info, e-mail me at ph.on.twitter@gmail.com</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395813</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397237</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>rs79</author>
	<datestamp>1245413520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> <b>"It was clearly CIA agents trying to come up with a pretense for an invasion of Iran by equipping Iranian-looking people with WMDs (rocks HURT!) "</b> </i></p><p>They're just RMA. (Rocks of Minor Annoyance)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" It was clearly CIA agents trying to come up with a pretense for an invasion of Iran by equipping Iranian-looking people with WMDs ( rocks HURT !
) " They 're just RMA .
( Rocks of Minor Annoyance )</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "It was clearly CIA agents trying to come up with a pretense for an invasion of Iran by equipping Iranian-looking people with WMDs (rocks HURT!
) " They're just RMA.
(Rocks of Minor Annoyance)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395529</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395513</id>
	<title>Proxies and Tor</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245404940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just did an interview with an AP reporter about my involvement with feeding proxies, Tor bridges and relays to people who can get them to Iranians on the ground.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just did an interview with an AP reporter about my involvement with feeding proxies , Tor bridges and relays to people who can get them to Iranians on the ground .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just did an interview with an AP reporter about my involvement with feeding proxies, Tor bridges and relays to people who can get them to Iranians on the ground.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396235</id>
	<title>REPORT THIS TO FBI, NOT POLICE</title>
	<author>bagsc</author>
	<datestamp>1245408120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FBI knows how to find these guys, and detain them for as long as possible before filing charges. You can bet there will be (non-torture) interrogations. The FBI has plenty of federal laws they can throw at these guys, can work with your local DA, and ICE, not to mention get the warrants to track who these guys are talking to and who else might be a threat to you.</p><p>The United States NEEDS you to report ANY activity of this kind immediately.</p><p><a href="http://www.fbi.gov/contact/fo/fo.htm" title="fbi.gov">http://www.fbi.gov/contact/fo/fo.htm</a> [fbi.gov]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FBI knows how to find these guys , and detain them for as long as possible before filing charges .
You can bet there will be ( non-torture ) interrogations .
The FBI has plenty of federal laws they can throw at these guys , can work with your local DA , and ICE , not to mention get the warrants to track who these guys are talking to and who else might be a threat to you.The United States NEEDS you to report ANY activity of this kind immediately.http : //www.fbi.gov/contact/fo/fo.htm [ fbi.gov ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FBI knows how to find these guys, and detain them for as long as possible before filing charges.
You can bet there will be (non-torture) interrogations.
The FBI has plenty of federal laws they can throw at these guys, can work with your local DA, and ICE, not to mention get the warrants to track who these guys are talking to and who else might be a threat to you.The United States NEEDS you to report ANY activity of this kind immediately.http://www.fbi.gov/contact/fo/fo.htm [fbi.gov]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396779</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245410820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Really, this is such elementary stuff I'm amazed I have to explain it to you people.</p></div><p>"You people?" That's racist.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Really , this is such elementary stuff I 'm amazed I have to explain it to you people .
" You people ?
" That 's racist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really, this is such elementary stuff I'm amazed I have to explain it to you people.
"You people?
" That's racist.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395529</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395491</id>
	<title>why the tolerance for TERRORISM on US soil?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245404880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We have foreigners representing a foreign government attacking a US citizen on US soil for political and religious reasons. That's terrorism by definition. The Administration Party Line is "lone nuts" and there's no attempt to investigate the organizations they are connected to.
<br> <br>
We have a plague of right-wing extremists killing Americans for political and religious reasons. That's terrorism by definition. The Administration Party Line is "lone nuts" and there's no attempt to investigate the organizations they are connected to.
<br> <br>
<b>Where the hell is the FBI and DHS?</b>
<br> <br>
<b>ON what planet is this supposed to be <i>"Change We Can Believe In?"</i> </b></htmltext>
<tokenext>We have foreigners representing a foreign government attacking a US citizen on US soil for political and religious reasons .
That 's terrorism by definition .
The Administration Party Line is " lone nuts " and there 's no attempt to investigate the organizations they are connected to .
We have a plague of right-wing extremists killing Americans for political and religious reasons .
That 's terrorism by definition .
The Administration Party Line is " lone nuts " and there 's no attempt to investigate the organizations they are connected to .
Where the hell is the FBI and DHS ?
ON what planet is this supposed to be " Change We Can Believe In ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We have foreigners representing a foreign government attacking a US citizen on US soil for political and religious reasons.
That's terrorism by definition.
The Administration Party Line is "lone nuts" and there's no attempt to investigate the organizations they are connected to.
We have a plague of right-wing extremists killing Americans for political and religious reasons.
That's terrorism by definition.
The Administration Party Line is "lone nuts" and there's no attempt to investigate the organizations they are connected to.
Where the hell is the FBI and DHS?
ON what planet is this supposed to be "Change We Can Believe In?
" </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28399165</id>
	<title>Re:Homland Security Indeed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245431880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that, apparently, a foreign government identified an American Citizen and had operatives attack that individual? On US Soil?</p> </div><p>Actually, I find it to be an oddly comforting equalizer. But then I'm from the UK, just one of the countries featured on the CIA's extraordinary rendition tour.</p><p>But seriously, if you think that a couple of guys throwing rocks from a car is the sort of action the Iranian government would suggest or request then I think you're being a bit naive - I have to think they could do better. Much more likely this is just a couple of pro-status-quo ex-pats.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that , apparently , a foreign government identified an American Citizen and had operatives attack that individual ?
On US Soil ?
Actually , I find it to be an oddly comforting equalizer .
But then I 'm from the UK , just one of the countries featured on the CIA 's extraordinary rendition tour.But seriously , if you think that a couple of guys throwing rocks from a car is the sort of action the Iranian government would suggest or request then I think you 're being a bit naive - I have to think they could do better .
Much more likely this is just a couple of pro-status-quo ex-pats .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that, apparently, a foreign government identified an American Citizen and had operatives attack that individual?
On US Soil?
Actually, I find it to be an oddly comforting equalizer.
But then I'm from the UK, just one of the countries featured on the CIA's extraordinary rendition tour.But seriously, if you think that a couple of guys throwing rocks from a car is the sort of action the Iranian government would suggest or request then I think you're being a bit naive - I have to think they could do better.
Much more likely this is just a couple of pro-status-quo ex-pats.
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	<title>Slashdotters not particularly savvy re Persia</title>
	<author>Runaway1956</author>
	<datestamp>1245408240000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>By George Friedman<br>Related Link</p><p>
    * The Geopolitics of Iran: Holding the Center of a Mountain Fortress</p><p>Related Special Topic Page</p><p>
    * The Iranian Presidential Elections</p><p>In 1979, when we were still young and starry-eyed, a revolution took place in Iran. When I asked experts what would happen, they divided into two camps.</p><p>The first group of Iran experts argued that the Shah of Iran would certainly survive, that the unrest was simply a cyclical event readily manageable by his security, and that the Iranian people were united behind the Iranian monarch's modernization program. These experts developed this view by talking to the same Iranian officials and businessmen they had been talking to for years -- Iranians who had grown wealthy and powerful under the shah and who spoke English, since Iran experts frequently didn't speak Farsi all that well.</p><p>The second group of Iran experts regarded the shah as a repressive brute, and saw the revolution as aimed at liberalizing the country. Their sources were the professionals and academics who supported the uprising -- Iranians who knew what former Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ruholla Khomeini believed, but didn't think he had much popular support. They thought the revolution would result in an increase in human rights and liberty. The experts in this group spoke even less Farsi than the those in the first group.<br>Misreading Sentiment in Iran</p><p>Limited to information on Iran from English-speaking opponents of the regime, both groups of Iran experts got a very misleading vision of where the revolution was heading -- because the Iranian revolution was not brought about by the people who spoke English. It was made by merchants in city bazaars, by rural peasants, by the clergy -- people Americans didn't speak to because they couldn't. This demographic was unsure of the virtues of modernization and not at all clear on the virtues of liberalism. From the time they were born, its members knew the virtue of Islam, and that the Iranian state must be an Islamic state.</p><p>Americans and Europeans have been misreading Iran for 30 years. Even after the shah fell, the myth has survived that a mass movement of people exists demanding liberalization -- a movement that if encouraged by the West eventually would form a majority and rule the country. We call this outlook "iPod liberalism," the idea that anyone who listens to rock 'n' roll on an iPod, writes blogs and knows what it means to Twitter must be an enthusiastic supporter of Western liberalism. Even more significantly, this outlook fails to recognize that iPod owners represent a small minority in Iran -- a country that is poor, pious and content on the whole with the revolution forged 30 years ago.</p><p>There are undoubtedly people who want to liberalize the Iranian regime. They are to be found among the professional classes in Tehran, as well as among students. Many speak English, making them accessible to the touring journalists, diplomats and intelligence people who pass through. They are the ones who can speak to Westerners, and they are the ones willing to speak to Westerners. And these people give Westerners a wildly distorted view of Iran. They can create the impression that a fantastic liberalization is at hand -- but not when you realize that iPod-owning Anglophones are not exactly the majority in Iran.</p><p>Last Friday, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was re-elected with about two-thirds of the vote. Supporters of his opponent, both inside and outside Iran, were stunned. A poll revealed that former Iranian Prime Minister Mir Hossein Mousavi was beating Ahmadinejad. It is, of course, interesting to meditate on how you could conduct a poll in a country where phones are not universal, and making a call once you have found a phone can be a trial. A poll therefore would probably reach people who had phones and lived in Tehran and other urban areas. Among those, Mousavi probably did win. But outside Tehran, and beyond persons easy to p</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By George FriedmanRelated Link * The Geopolitics of Iran : Holding the Center of a Mountain FortressRelated Special Topic Page * The Iranian Presidential ElectionsIn 1979 , when we were still young and starry-eyed , a revolution took place in Iran .
When I asked experts what would happen , they divided into two camps.The first group of Iran experts argued that the Shah of Iran would certainly survive , that the unrest was simply a cyclical event readily manageable by his security , and that the Iranian people were united behind the Iranian monarch 's modernization program .
These experts developed this view by talking to the same Iranian officials and businessmen they had been talking to for years -- Iranians who had grown wealthy and powerful under the shah and who spoke English , since Iran experts frequently did n't speak Farsi all that well.The second group of Iran experts regarded the shah as a repressive brute , and saw the revolution as aimed at liberalizing the country .
Their sources were the professionals and academics who supported the uprising -- Iranians who knew what former Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ruholla Khomeini believed , but did n't think he had much popular support .
They thought the revolution would result in an increase in human rights and liberty .
The experts in this group spoke even less Farsi than the those in the first group.Misreading Sentiment in IranLimited to information on Iran from English-speaking opponents of the regime , both groups of Iran experts got a very misleading vision of where the revolution was heading -- because the Iranian revolution was not brought about by the people who spoke English .
It was made by merchants in city bazaars , by rural peasants , by the clergy -- people Americans did n't speak to because they could n't .
This demographic was unsure of the virtues of modernization and not at all clear on the virtues of liberalism .
From the time they were born , its members knew the virtue of Islam , and that the Iranian state must be an Islamic state.Americans and Europeans have been misreading Iran for 30 years .
Even after the shah fell , the myth has survived that a mass movement of people exists demanding liberalization -- a movement that if encouraged by the West eventually would form a majority and rule the country .
We call this outlook " iPod liberalism , " the idea that anyone who listens to rock 'n ' roll on an iPod , writes blogs and knows what it means to Twitter must be an enthusiastic supporter of Western liberalism .
Even more significantly , this outlook fails to recognize that iPod owners represent a small minority in Iran -- a country that is poor , pious and content on the whole with the revolution forged 30 years ago.There are undoubtedly people who want to liberalize the Iranian regime .
They are to be found among the professional classes in Tehran , as well as among students .
Many speak English , making them accessible to the touring journalists , diplomats and intelligence people who pass through .
They are the ones who can speak to Westerners , and they are the ones willing to speak to Westerners .
And these people give Westerners a wildly distorted view of Iran .
They can create the impression that a fantastic liberalization is at hand -- but not when you realize that iPod-owning Anglophones are not exactly the majority in Iran.Last Friday , Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was re-elected with about two-thirds of the vote .
Supporters of his opponent , both inside and outside Iran , were stunned .
A poll revealed that former Iranian Prime Minister Mir Hossein Mousavi was beating Ahmadinejad .
It is , of course , interesting to meditate on how you could conduct a poll in a country where phones are not universal , and making a call once you have found a phone can be a trial .
A poll therefore would probably reach people who had phones and lived in Tehran and other urban areas .
Among those , Mousavi probably did win .
But outside Tehran , and beyond persons easy to p</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By George FriedmanRelated Link
    * The Geopolitics of Iran: Holding the Center of a Mountain FortressRelated Special Topic Page
    * The Iranian Presidential ElectionsIn 1979, when we were still young and starry-eyed, a revolution took place in Iran.
When I asked experts what would happen, they divided into two camps.The first group of Iran experts argued that the Shah of Iran would certainly survive, that the unrest was simply a cyclical event readily manageable by his security, and that the Iranian people were united behind the Iranian monarch's modernization program.
These experts developed this view by talking to the same Iranian officials and businessmen they had been talking to for years -- Iranians who had grown wealthy and powerful under the shah and who spoke English, since Iran experts frequently didn't speak Farsi all that well.The second group of Iran experts regarded the shah as a repressive brute, and saw the revolution as aimed at liberalizing the country.
Their sources were the professionals and academics who supported the uprising -- Iranians who knew what former Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ruholla Khomeini believed, but didn't think he had much popular support.
They thought the revolution would result in an increase in human rights and liberty.
The experts in this group spoke even less Farsi than the those in the first group.Misreading Sentiment in IranLimited to information on Iran from English-speaking opponents of the regime, both groups of Iran experts got a very misleading vision of where the revolution was heading -- because the Iranian revolution was not brought about by the people who spoke English.
It was made by merchants in city bazaars, by rural peasants, by the clergy -- people Americans didn't speak to because they couldn't.
This demographic was unsure of the virtues of modernization and not at all clear on the virtues of liberalism.
From the time they were born, its members knew the virtue of Islam, and that the Iranian state must be an Islamic state.Americans and Europeans have been misreading Iran for 30 years.
Even after the shah fell, the myth has survived that a mass movement of people exists demanding liberalization -- a movement that if encouraged by the West eventually would form a majority and rule the country.
We call this outlook "iPod liberalism," the idea that anyone who listens to rock 'n' roll on an iPod, writes blogs and knows what it means to Twitter must be an enthusiastic supporter of Western liberalism.
Even more significantly, this outlook fails to recognize that iPod owners represent a small minority in Iran -- a country that is poor, pious and content on the whole with the revolution forged 30 years ago.There are undoubtedly people who want to liberalize the Iranian regime.
They are to be found among the professional classes in Tehran, as well as among students.
Many speak English, making them accessible to the touring journalists, diplomats and intelligence people who pass through.
They are the ones who can speak to Westerners, and they are the ones willing to speak to Westerners.
And these people give Westerners a wildly distorted view of Iran.
They can create the impression that a fantastic liberalization is at hand -- but not when you realize that iPod-owning Anglophones are not exactly the majority in Iran.Last Friday, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was re-elected with about two-thirds of the vote.
Supporters of his opponent, both inside and outside Iran, were stunned.
A poll revealed that former Iranian Prime Minister Mir Hossein Mousavi was beating Ahmadinejad.
It is, of course, interesting to meditate on how you could conduct a poll in a country where phones are not universal, and making a call once you have found a phone can be a trial.
A poll therefore would probably reach people who had phones and lived in Tehran and other urban areas.
Among those, Mousavi probably did win.
But outside Tehran, and beyond persons easy to p</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396179</id>
	<title>an american point of view</title>
	<author>peawormsworth</author>
	<datestamp>1245407820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The link provided says Iran should do this:</p><p>- remove Ahmadinejad<br>- recognize Mousavi as president</p><p>This suggestion is not democracy at all. Ahmadinejad won the election according to the results.<br>From what I have seen, the Mousavi party is not meeting the legal requirements to protest the results and is instead encouraging people to protest directly through civil disobedience. One would have to guess that this is because Mousavi knows he lost and the correct process would prove that.</p><p>As a democratic country the courts should decide where recounts are appropriate and whether fraud may have been committed.</p><p>After all... according to this guys logic, we should have had Gore in office 9 years ago instead of Bush. I mean that whole thing went through the US supreme courts and they came to the correct decision (didn't they?)</p><p>The problem I see with most opinions on this whole thing is that our opinions are formed on the reports from Euro/America media sources. There is a definite dislike for Ahmadinejad due to the negative and embarassing comments from him about the West. But in my opinion, the majority of what he says (in english at least) is entirely correct. Most of what I hear about Ahmadinejad comes not from his mouth, but from summarize of what others reporters say he said. Then when I hear his point of view... it is entirely different and taken out of context.</p><p>I don't know who should be in office over there. But to assume we know what the majority of people in Iran want just because one leader suits our taste more then the other is ignorant. To pretend that you know and act upon it is to support the US propaganda machine.</p><p>Additionally: throwing rocks at the car of someone who's political views you do not like... that is not terrorism. Although expanding the scope of 'terrorist' is a fun past-time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The link provided says Iran should do this : - remove Ahmadinejad- recognize Mousavi as presidentThis suggestion is not democracy at all .
Ahmadinejad won the election according to the results.From what I have seen , the Mousavi party is not meeting the legal requirements to protest the results and is instead encouraging people to protest directly through civil disobedience .
One would have to guess that this is because Mousavi knows he lost and the correct process would prove that.As a democratic country the courts should decide where recounts are appropriate and whether fraud may have been committed.After all... according to this guys logic , we should have had Gore in office 9 years ago instead of Bush .
I mean that whole thing went through the US supreme courts and they came to the correct decision ( did n't they ?
) The problem I see with most opinions on this whole thing is that our opinions are formed on the reports from Euro/America media sources .
There is a definite dislike for Ahmadinejad due to the negative and embarassing comments from him about the West .
But in my opinion , the majority of what he says ( in english at least ) is entirely correct .
Most of what I hear about Ahmadinejad comes not from his mouth , but from summarize of what others reporters say he said .
Then when I hear his point of view... it is entirely different and taken out of context.I do n't know who should be in office over there .
But to assume we know what the majority of people in Iran want just because one leader suits our taste more then the other is ignorant .
To pretend that you know and act upon it is to support the US propaganda machine.Additionally : throwing rocks at the car of someone who 's political views you do not like... that is not terrorism .
Although expanding the scope of 'terrorist ' is a fun past-time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The link provided says Iran should do this:- remove Ahmadinejad- recognize Mousavi as presidentThis suggestion is not democracy at all.
Ahmadinejad won the election according to the results.From what I have seen, the Mousavi party is not meeting the legal requirements to protest the results and is instead encouraging people to protest directly through civil disobedience.
One would have to guess that this is because Mousavi knows he lost and the correct process would prove that.As a democratic country the courts should decide where recounts are appropriate and whether fraud may have been committed.After all... according to this guys logic, we should have had Gore in office 9 years ago instead of Bush.
I mean that whole thing went through the US supreme courts and they came to the correct decision (didn't they?
)The problem I see with most opinions on this whole thing is that our opinions are formed on the reports from Euro/America media sources.
There is a definite dislike for Ahmadinejad due to the negative and embarassing comments from him about the West.
But in my opinion, the majority of what he says (in english at least) is entirely correct.
Most of what I hear about Ahmadinejad comes not from his mouth, but from summarize of what others reporters say he said.
Then when I hear his point of view... it is entirely different and taken out of context.I don't know who should be in office over there.
But to assume we know what the majority of people in Iran want just because one leader suits our taste more then the other is ignorant.
To pretend that you know and act upon it is to support the US propaganda machine.Additionally: throwing rocks at the car of someone who's political views you do not like... that is not terrorism.
Although expanding the scope of 'terrorist' is a fun past-time.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395813</id>
	<title>Re:skeptical</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245406080000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm in Ohio.  Ohio's a big place.  How come nobody mentions a city?  What "school"?  What police dept. was notified?  Why go public on the internet and not call the local media?</p><p>If true, this is very disturbing, but I too am skeptical.</p><p>And no, it's not impossible.  The Shah's agents were here in OH in the 1970s.  Seriously.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm in Ohio .
Ohio 's a big place .
How come nobody mentions a city ?
What " school " ?
What police dept .
was notified ?
Why go public on the internet and not call the local media ? If true , this is very disturbing , but I too am skeptical.And no , it 's not impossible .
The Shah 's agents were here in OH in the 1970s .
Seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm in Ohio.
Ohio's a big place.
How come nobody mentions a city?
What "school"?
What police dept.
was notified?
Why go public on the internet and not call the local media?If true, this is very disturbing, but I too am skeptical.And no, it's not impossible.
The Shah's agents were here in OH in the 1970s.
Seriously.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396153</id>
	<title>Re:why the tolerance for TERRORISM on US soil?</title>
	<author>mpoulton</author>
	<datestamp>1245407700000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We have foreigners representing a foreign government attacking a US citizen on US soil for political and religious reasons. That's terrorism by definition.</p> </div><p>
No, it's assassination by definition.  Foreign groups have been assassinating political enemies abroad for centuries.</p></div>
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<tokenext>We have foreigners representing a foreign government attacking a US citizen on US soil for political and religious reasons .
That 's terrorism by definition .
No , it 's assassination by definition .
Foreign groups have been assassinating political enemies abroad for centuries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We have foreigners representing a foreign government attacking a US citizen on US soil for political and religious reasons.
That's terrorism by definition.
No, it's assassination by definition.
Foreign groups have been assassinating political enemies abroad for centuries.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395983</id>
	<title>Re:Do this stuff ANONYMOUSLY as possible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245406920000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Well tech savvy activists probably know and are doing just that. However you must consider that these protests have gone beyond the realm of the tech saavy user. I can't count how many "Iranian IP proxy in a box" websites I've seen pasted all over various internet forums for the past week. I have clicked at least 4 different links sending me to readme webpages relating to how you can help the digital/cyber/net/insert-internet-buzz-word-here movement against the Iranian government. The actions being taken to support this protest require at least some understanding of networking and security to be conducted usefully and safely. However, these tools are being advertised on numerous social networking sites in such a way that any political trend lover (I am referring to the same 100 people that show up at EVERY protest in your city regarding ANY cause) can at least attempt to use them. This is going to lead to more people participating in this who don't understand the depth or intricacies of what they are doing.<br> <br>

Hell, even I thought about setting up one of my boxes at home to host something useful for Iran, but, being somewhat new to the computer security world, and having just read multiple times in every security book I own that the first rule to security is that, "Security is a mindset, not a state," I realized I do not yet have a developed enough understanding of these things to aid Iran in a way that couldn't be countered or hijacked, or turned against the protesters themselves. It's not that I know there are ways those things could happen, its that I realize I would be dabbling in a game where there are far more dangerous and experienced players. So I decided my best option was to try to learn more first.<br> <br>

Unfortunately, not everyone who has heard about the Iranian protest movement has this security mindset. To them, it is a chance to take actual action in something exciting happening right now. Hell, I had one of my friends who still thinks Linux is a Windows add-on used for IP tracing ask me on an instant messenger the other day if I could help them understand a guide they had found to hosting a proxy for Iranian IP addresses online. I told them I wouldn't dare help them get involved in something like this because they would just be opening themselves, their computers, and their lives up to a world that is much darker than they probably understood.<br> <br>

My reward was being called unpatriotic and paranoid.<br> <br>

We have at least one generation of angstful kids at computers who are itching to take action in the name of liberty. Unfortunately that same generous does not have the time or patience to learn the techniques and tools to do so effectively. Furthermore, few of them want to work hard on that kind of thing because really they would rather just go play X-box. Mix those characteristics in people and you get lazy-idealists who often can, and often do, do more harm than good to themselves and others.<br> <br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>/End Rant</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well tech savvy activists probably know and are doing just that .
However you must consider that these protests have gone beyond the realm of the tech saavy user .
I ca n't count how many " Iranian IP proxy in a box " websites I 've seen pasted all over various internet forums for the past week .
I have clicked at least 4 different links sending me to readme webpages relating to how you can help the digital/cyber/net/insert-internet-buzz-word-here movement against the Iranian government .
The actions being taken to support this protest require at least some understanding of networking and security to be conducted usefully and safely .
However , these tools are being advertised on numerous social networking sites in such a way that any political trend lover ( I am referring to the same 100 people that show up at EVERY protest in your city regarding ANY cause ) can at least attempt to use them .
This is going to lead to more people participating in this who do n't understand the depth or intricacies of what they are doing .
Hell , even I thought about setting up one of my boxes at home to host something useful for Iran , but , being somewhat new to the computer security world , and having just read multiple times in every security book I own that the first rule to security is that , " Security is a mindset , not a state , " I realized I do not yet have a developed enough understanding of these things to aid Iran in a way that could n't be countered or hijacked , or turned against the protesters themselves .
It 's not that I know there are ways those things could happen , its that I realize I would be dabbling in a game where there are far more dangerous and experienced players .
So I decided my best option was to try to learn more first .
Unfortunately , not everyone who has heard about the Iranian protest movement has this security mindset .
To them , it is a chance to take actual action in something exciting happening right now .
Hell , I had one of my friends who still thinks Linux is a Windows add-on used for IP tracing ask me on an instant messenger the other day if I could help them understand a guide they had found to hosting a proxy for Iranian IP addresses online .
I told them I would n't dare help them get involved in something like this because they would just be opening themselves , their computers , and their lives up to a world that is much darker than they probably understood .
My reward was being called unpatriotic and paranoid .
We have at least one generation of angstful kids at computers who are itching to take action in the name of liberty .
Unfortunately that same generous does not have the time or patience to learn the techniques and tools to do so effectively .
Furthermore , few of them want to work hard on that kind of thing because really they would rather just go play X-box .
Mix those characteristics in people and you get lazy-idealists who often can , and often do , do more harm than good to themselves and others .
/End Rant</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well tech savvy activists probably know and are doing just that.
However you must consider that these protests have gone beyond the realm of the tech saavy user.
I can't count how many "Iranian IP proxy in a box" websites I've seen pasted all over various internet forums for the past week.
I have clicked at least 4 different links sending me to readme webpages relating to how you can help the digital/cyber/net/insert-internet-buzz-word-here movement against the Iranian government.
The actions being taken to support this protest require at least some understanding of networking and security to be conducted usefully and safely.
However, these tools are being advertised on numerous social networking sites in such a way that any political trend lover (I am referring to the same 100 people that show up at EVERY protest in your city regarding ANY cause) can at least attempt to use them.
This is going to lead to more people participating in this who don't understand the depth or intricacies of what they are doing.
Hell, even I thought about setting up one of my boxes at home to host something useful for Iran, but, being somewhat new to the computer security world, and having just read multiple times in every security book I own that the first rule to security is that, "Security is a mindset, not a state," I realized I do not yet have a developed enough understanding of these things to aid Iran in a way that couldn't be countered or hijacked, or turned against the protesters themselves.
It's not that I know there are ways those things could happen, its that I realize I would be dabbling in a game where there are far more dangerous and experienced players.
So I decided my best option was to try to learn more first.
Unfortunately, not everyone who has heard about the Iranian protest movement has this security mindset.
To them, it is a chance to take actual action in something exciting happening right now.
Hell, I had one of my friends who still thinks Linux is a Windows add-on used for IP tracing ask me on an instant messenger the other day if I could help them understand a guide they had found to hosting a proxy for Iranian IP addresses online.
I told them I wouldn't dare help them get involved in something like this because they would just be opening themselves, their computers, and their lives up to a world that is much darker than they probably understood.
My reward was being called unpatriotic and paranoid.
We have at least one generation of angstful kids at computers who are itching to take action in the name of liberty.
Unfortunately that same generous does not have the time or patience to learn the techniques and tools to do so effectively.
Furthermore, few of them want to work hard on that kind of thing because really they would rather just go play X-box.
Mix those characteristics in people and you get lazy-idealists who often can, and often do, do more harm than good to themselves and others.
/End Rant</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395809</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245406080000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed, why go to the expense of government agents when the <a href="http://www.forbes.com/2008/11/21/human-flesh-search-tech-identity08-cx\_cb\_1121obrien.html" title="forbes.com" rel="nofollow">"human flesh search engines"</a> [forbes.com] will do the job for you?  I've heard of similar things taking place, mostly in China, where zealous nationalists and other general vigilantes have both the power of numbers and the internet to track down and harrass ne'er-do-wells in real life.  It even carries over to the US occasionally; <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/us/17student.html" title="nytimes.com" rel="nofollow">a Chinese student at Duke was targeted</a> [nytimes.com] after she tried to mediate between Chinese and Tibetan student groups.  I wonder how prevalent this will become in the US; Iranians don't have quite the numbers as the Chinese but really, anyone with say, someone's real name and location, and enough patience and determination can make that person's life pretty miserable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed , why go to the expense of government agents when the " human flesh search engines " [ forbes.com ] will do the job for you ?
I 've heard of similar things taking place , mostly in China , where zealous nationalists and other general vigilantes have both the power of numbers and the internet to track down and harrass ne'er-do-wells in real life .
It even carries over to the US occasionally ; a Chinese student at Duke was targeted [ nytimes.com ] after she tried to mediate between Chinese and Tibetan student groups .
I wonder how prevalent this will become in the US ; Iranians do n't have quite the numbers as the Chinese but really , anyone with say , someone 's real name and location , and enough patience and determination can make that person 's life pretty miserable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed, why go to the expense of government agents when the "human flesh search engines" [forbes.com] will do the job for you?
I've heard of similar things taking place, mostly in China, where zealous nationalists and other general vigilantes have both the power of numbers and the internet to track down and harrass ne'er-do-wells in real life.
It even carries over to the US occasionally; a Chinese student at Duke was targeted [nytimes.com] after she tried to mediate between Chinese and Tibetan student groups.
I wonder how prevalent this will become in the US; Iranians don't have quite the numbers as the Chinese but really, anyone with say, someone's real name and location, and enough patience and determination can make that person's life pretty miserable.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395247</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395361</id>
	<title>Re:skeptical</title>
	<author>Dr. Impossible</author>
	<datestamp>1245404280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What is supposed to be so amazing about this?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What is supposed to be so amazing about this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is supposed to be so amazing about this?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395237</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395443</id>
	<title>Re:No, this stops</title>
	<author>Red Flayer</author>
	<datestamp>1245404580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I don't have any money, but I am glad to provide a proxy or whatever if anyone is so crazed that they will attack people across international lines just to silence their speech. I don't have family and I'm not afraid of whatever they think they can do. Such people are scum and not worth fearing.</p></div></blockquote><p>...</p><blockquote><div><p>by BigSlowTarget (325940)</p></div></blockquote><p>If this is your course of action, might I suggest changing your nick to "TinyElusiveTarget"?<br> <br>Seriously, though, previous threads over the past couple days have had a lot of details on what to do and how to do it if you want to help.  Alternatively, Fark.com has daily (or more frequent) threads on the Green Revolution, and there are always helpful posts in those threads.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't have any money , but I am glad to provide a proxy or whatever if anyone is so crazed that they will attack people across international lines just to silence their speech .
I do n't have family and I 'm not afraid of whatever they think they can do .
Such people are scum and not worth fearing....by BigSlowTarget ( 325940 ) If this is your course of action , might I suggest changing your nick to " TinyElusiveTarget " ?
Seriously , though , previous threads over the past couple days have had a lot of details on what to do and how to do it if you want to help .
Alternatively , Fark.com has daily ( or more frequent ) threads on the Green Revolution , and there are always helpful posts in those threads .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't have any money, but I am glad to provide a proxy or whatever if anyone is so crazed that they will attack people across international lines just to silence their speech.
I don't have family and I'm not afraid of whatever they think they can do.
Such people are scum and not worth fearing....by BigSlowTarget (325940)If this is your course of action, might I suggest changing your nick to "TinyElusiveTarget"?
Seriously, though, previous threads over the past couple days have had a lot of details on what to do and how to do it if you want to help.
Alternatively, Fark.com has daily (or more frequent) threads on the Green Revolution, and there are always helpful posts in those threads.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395223</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395149</id>
	<title>paranoid?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245403620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least he can now say that a foreign government has aligned against him and not be considered a tin foiled weirdo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least he can now say that a foreign government has aligned against him and not be considered a tin foiled weirdo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least he can now say that a foreign government has aligned against him and not be considered a tin foiled weirdo.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395647</id>
	<title>Re:why the tolerance for TERRORISM on US soil?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245405480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No that's not terrorism. That's a shameful, awful, assault made by cowards and they should go to jail for this. But in no way this is terrorism. Please stop calling terrorism any crime, because it fits your agenda, especially when we don't know the details of what happened and the perpretators.<br>With such kind of claims, at the end of the day, there will be only two crimes left: terrorism and pedohilia. Steal a CD in a shop ? Terrorist ! Copyright infrigement ? Jail for life, think of the children ! This is ridiculous.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No that 's not terrorism .
That 's a shameful , awful , assault made by cowards and they should go to jail for this .
But in no way this is terrorism .
Please stop calling terrorism any crime , because it fits your agenda , especially when we do n't know the details of what happened and the perpretators.With such kind of claims , at the end of the day , there will be only two crimes left : terrorism and pedohilia .
Steal a CD in a shop ?
Terrorist !
Copyright infrigement ?
Jail for life , think of the children !
This is ridiculous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No that's not terrorism.
That's a shameful, awful, assault made by cowards and they should go to jail for this.
But in no way this is terrorism.
Please stop calling terrorism any crime, because it fits your agenda, especially when we don't know the details of what happened and the perpretators.With such kind of claims, at the end of the day, there will be only two crimes left: terrorism and pedohilia.
Steal a CD in a shop ?
Terrorist !
Copyright infrigement ?
Jail for life, think of the children !
This is ridiculous.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395491</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395159</id>
	<title>Do this stuff ANONYMOUSLY as possible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245403620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, not that I mean to be insensitive, but when you're messing with that kind of stuff, you want to be as anonymous as humanly possible.</p><p>Like, purchasing hosting somewhere else in the world, with a one-time VISA/MasterCard cash card that you bought at a corner store with cash.  You know?  Uploading everything from your laptop while you're chilling at a coffee shop well distanced from your home.</p><p>Maybe I'm just paranoid, but man, I would not be dealing with this kinda scenario where people are getting killed in the night and shit, unless I was doing it ultra un-traceable style. Because I would absolutely anticipate this kind of harsh backlash from the same crazy fuckers that are doing the same thing in Iran.</p><p>I actually considered setting up an anonymous web-form -&gt; twitter gateway,  but it was just not worth the hassle to set that kind of thing up with the kind of anonymity I would require to be OK with doing that.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , not that I mean to be insensitive , but when you 're messing with that kind of stuff , you want to be as anonymous as humanly possible.Like , purchasing hosting somewhere else in the world , with a one-time VISA/MasterCard cash card that you bought at a corner store with cash .
You know ?
Uploading everything from your laptop while you 're chilling at a coffee shop well distanced from your home.Maybe I 'm just paranoid , but man , I would not be dealing with this kinda scenario where people are getting killed in the night and shit , unless I was doing it ultra un-traceable style .
Because I would absolutely anticipate this kind of harsh backlash from the same crazy fuckers that are doing the same thing in Iran.I actually considered setting up an anonymous web-form - &gt; twitter gateway , but it was just not worth the hassle to set that kind of thing up with the kind of anonymity I would require to be OK with doing that .
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, not that I mean to be insensitive, but when you're messing with that kind of stuff, you want to be as anonymous as humanly possible.Like, purchasing hosting somewhere else in the world, with a one-time VISA/MasterCard cash card that you bought at a corner store with cash.
You know?
Uploading everything from your laptop while you're chilling at a coffee shop well distanced from your home.Maybe I'm just paranoid, but man, I would not be dealing with this kinda scenario where people are getting killed in the night and shit, unless I was doing it ultra un-traceable style.
Because I would absolutely anticipate this kind of harsh backlash from the same crazy fuckers that are doing the same thing in Iran.I actually considered setting up an anonymous web-form -&gt; twitter gateway,  but it was just not worth the hassle to set that kind of thing up with the kind of anonymity I would require to be OK with doing that.
:P</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395453</id>
	<title>Lock and Load.</title>
	<author>Ortega-Starfire</author>
	<datestamp>1245404640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Time for this guy to get a conceal carry permit, a handgun, and most importantly, the training to know when to use the above. Online we defend ourselves with munitions known as anonymity and encryption. In real life we use body armor and small arms.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Time for this guy to get a conceal carry permit , a handgun , and most importantly , the training to know when to use the above .
Online we defend ourselves with munitions known as anonymity and encryption .
In real life we use body armor and small arms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Time for this guy to get a conceal carry permit, a handgun, and most importantly, the training to know when to use the above.
Online we defend ourselves with munitions known as anonymity and encryption.
In real life we use body armor and small arms.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28405519</id>
	<title>Re:an american point of view</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1245501060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Supreme Leader called the result final before Mousavi could use those proper channels. Sure, after Khameni suggested a recount those channels might be open, but once the establishment shows it does not care about the correct process, it is not the best move for the side with less power to hope the rules will suddenly be followed again. If Amadinejad won I'm all for him staying in office (despite disliking him), but there is enough evidence to doubt the validity of the count. <br> <br>Yes, the stated mission of the protest - that Mousavi should be put in as president - assumes his victory. If-statements don't make for strong mission statements so I think it is acceptable. Now if they don't show signs of accepting Amadinejad after a fair vote count is made (the first one had no independent oversight), I will agree with you and hope the protesters quietly let things move on.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Supreme Leader called the result final before Mousavi could use those proper channels .
Sure , after Khameni suggested a recount those channels might be open , but once the establishment shows it does not care about the correct process , it is not the best move for the side with less power to hope the rules will suddenly be followed again .
If Amadinejad won I 'm all for him staying in office ( despite disliking him ) , but there is enough evidence to doubt the validity of the count .
Yes , the stated mission of the protest - that Mousavi should be put in as president - assumes his victory .
If-statements do n't make for strong mission statements so I think it is acceptable .
Now if they do n't show signs of accepting Amadinejad after a fair vote count is made ( the first one had no independent oversight ) , I will agree with you and hope the protesters quietly let things move on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Supreme Leader called the result final before Mousavi could use those proper channels.
Sure, after Khameni suggested a recount those channels might be open, but once the establishment shows it does not care about the correct process, it is not the best move for the side with less power to hope the rules will suddenly be followed again.
If Amadinejad won I'm all for him staying in office (despite disliking him), but there is enough evidence to doubt the validity of the count.
Yes, the stated mission of the protest - that Mousavi should be put in as president - assumes his victory.
If-statements don't make for strong mission statements so I think it is acceptable.
Now if they don't show signs of accepting Amadinejad after a fair vote count is made (the first one had no independent oversight), I will agree with you and hope the protesters quietly let things move on.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396179</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395223</id>
	<title>No, this stops</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245403800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No.  This stops now.<br>I don't have any money, but I am glad to provide a proxy or whatever if anyone is so crazed that they will attack people across international lines just to silence their speech.  I don't have family and I'm not afraid of whatever they think they can do.  Such people are scum and not worth fearing.</p><p>I need help.  I don't know the specific systems, steps and processes necessary to support these people.  What do I do or where do I go to find out what to do?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
This stops now.I do n't have any money , but I am glad to provide a proxy or whatever if anyone is so crazed that they will attack people across international lines just to silence their speech .
I do n't have family and I 'm not afraid of whatever they think they can do .
Such people are scum and not worth fearing.I need help .
I do n't know the specific systems , steps and processes necessary to support these people .
What do I do or where do I go to find out what to do ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
This stops now.I don't have any money, but I am glad to provide a proxy or whatever if anyone is so crazed that they will attack people across international lines just to silence their speech.
I don't have family and I'm not afraid of whatever they think they can do.
Such people are scum and not worth fearing.I need help.
I don't know the specific systems, steps and processes necessary to support these people.
What do I do or where do I go to find out what to do?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396093</id>
	<title>What does this remind me of?</title>
	<author>CubeRootOf</author>
	<datestamp>1245407400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds like that girl who claimed that an Obama supporter beat her up just before the last election....</p><p>I'm sure someone threw some rocks at this guy (no - I'm really not), but I doubt it was a concerted effort to silence him... or even folks from Iran.</p><p>It may even be a prank by some other college kids who were A) drunk or B) don't like this kid anyway(or C) a lie).</p><p>In any case, no blood no foul, right? That is why we help Iranians in a potential civil war through our twitter accounts instead of sending them material aid that might actually be able to help them in case things start getting really ugly.</p><p>If you really want to help them, start translating the anarchist cookbook into the local language, or smuggle copies of it into the country.</p><p>Remember folks:<br>Sticks and stones may break my bones,<br>but computers can never hurt me.</p><p>Tanks and guns can kill me dead,<br>but twitter will never harm me.</p><p>Planes and bombs can level my village,<br>but a netwar is just crackers having fun.</p><p>---</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like that girl who claimed that an Obama supporter beat her up just before the last election....I 'm sure someone threw some rocks at this guy ( no - I 'm really not ) , but I doubt it was a concerted effort to silence him... or even folks from Iran.It may even be a prank by some other college kids who were A ) drunk or B ) do n't like this kid anyway ( or C ) a lie ) .In any case , no blood no foul , right ?
That is why we help Iranians in a potential civil war through our twitter accounts instead of sending them material aid that might actually be able to help them in case things start getting really ugly.If you really want to help them , start translating the anarchist cookbook into the local language , or smuggle copies of it into the country.Remember folks : Sticks and stones may break my bones,but computers can never hurt me.Tanks and guns can kill me dead,but twitter will never harm me.Planes and bombs can level my village,but a netwar is just crackers having fun.---</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like that girl who claimed that an Obama supporter beat her up just before the last election....I'm sure someone threw some rocks at this guy (no - I'm really not), but I doubt it was a concerted effort to silence him... or even folks from Iran.It may even be a prank by some other college kids who were A) drunk or B) don't like this kid anyway(or C) a lie).In any case, no blood no foul, right?
That is why we help Iranians in a potential civil war through our twitter accounts instead of sending them material aid that might actually be able to help them in case things start getting really ugly.If you really want to help them, start translating the anarchist cookbook into the local language, or smuggle copies of it into the country.Remember folks:Sticks and stones may break my bones,but computers can never hurt me.Tanks and guns can kill me dead,but twitter will never harm me.Planes and bombs can level my village,but a netwar is just crackers having fun.---</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397171</id>
	<title>Re:Right, that's the only reason</title>
	<author>tukang</author>
	<datestamp>1245412980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>That is why I am so dissatisfied with the lack of upper level support to date.</i>

<p>I suspect that you're not familiar with Iranian history and the reasons why the public strongly supported the revolution. Whether true or not there was a wide perception that the Shah was a puppet controlled by the US and Brits, and Iranians have become extremely sensitive of foreign meddling in internal matters, so any 'upper level' support will likely be used as evidence by the current regime to prove that the protests are nothing more than the work of foreign intelligence agencies (as they already claim btw)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is why I am so dissatisfied with the lack of upper level support to date .
I suspect that you 're not familiar with Iranian history and the reasons why the public strongly supported the revolution .
Whether true or not there was a wide perception that the Shah was a puppet controlled by the US and Brits , and Iranians have become extremely sensitive of foreign meddling in internal matters , so any 'upper level ' support will likely be used as evidence by the current regime to prove that the protests are nothing more than the work of foreign intelligence agencies ( as they already claim btw ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is why I am so dissatisfied with the lack of upper level support to date.
I suspect that you're not familiar with Iranian history and the reasons why the public strongly supported the revolution.
Whether true or not there was a wide perception that the Shah was a puppet controlled by the US and Brits, and Iranians have become extremely sensitive of foreign meddling in internal matters, so any 'upper level' support will likely be used as evidence by the current regime to prove that the protests are nothing more than the work of foreign intelligence agencies (as they already claim btw) .</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395345</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396039</id>
	<title>Re:Lock and Load.</title>
	<author>Anti\_Climax</author>
	<datestamp>1245407160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I find it funny that others think what you've said is funny.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I find it funny that others think what you 've said is funny .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find it funny that others think what you've said is funny.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395453</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396379</id>
	<title>Re:What?!?</title>
	<author>The Moof</author>
	<datestamp>1245408900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Silly Slashdotter, Google already <a href="http://www.google.com/intl/xx-klingon/" title="google.com">supports Klingon</a> [google.com]. (Among other important language like "<a href="http://www.google.com/intl/xx-bork/" title="google.com">Bork! Bork! Bork!</a> [google.com], <a href="http://www.google.com/intl/xx-pirate/" title="google.com">Pirate</a> [google.com] and <a href="http://www.google.com/intl/xx-hacker/" title="google.com">Hacker</a> [google.com])</htmltext>
<tokenext>Silly Slashdotter , Google already supports Klingon [ google.com ] .
( Among other important language like " Bork !
Bork ! Bork !
[ google.com ] , Pirate [ google.com ] and Hacker [ google.com ] )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Silly Slashdotter, Google already supports Klingon [google.com].
(Among other important language like "Bork!
Bork! Bork!
[google.com], Pirate [google.com] and Hacker [google.com])</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395415</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395259</id>
	<title>Another Note on this.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245403920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have been on IRC (where everybody is organizing) constantly for the last 3 days or so watching the chatter on this.</p><p>Dear god.  Guys, some of the people doing this have got their head fully up their ass.  People are going to get banned from their ISP or worse.  You've got a bunch of idiots that cannot grok how to launch a DOS window running wide open proxies on their home cable connections.</p><p>There are people running dedicated servers right now to ferry information out of the country, but some of these people are seriously going to get themselves into trouble.</p><p>If you do not have a working knowledge of routing, pf/iptables, and squid, please do not run a proxy.  You are going to get yourself into more trouble than having rocks thrown at you.</p><p>Or worse, your misconfiguration is going to get people in Iran killed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have been on IRC ( where everybody is organizing ) constantly for the last 3 days or so watching the chatter on this.Dear god .
Guys , some of the people doing this have got their head fully up their ass .
People are going to get banned from their ISP or worse .
You 've got a bunch of idiots that can not grok how to launch a DOS window running wide open proxies on their home cable connections.There are people running dedicated servers right now to ferry information out of the country , but some of these people are seriously going to get themselves into trouble.If you do not have a working knowledge of routing , pf/iptables , and squid , please do not run a proxy .
You are going to get yourself into more trouble than having rocks thrown at you.Or worse , your misconfiguration is going to get people in Iran killed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have been on IRC (where everybody is organizing) constantly for the last 3 days or so watching the chatter on this.Dear god.
Guys, some of the people doing this have got their head fully up their ass.
People are going to get banned from their ISP or worse.
You've got a bunch of idiots that cannot grok how to launch a DOS window running wide open proxies on their home cable connections.There are people running dedicated servers right now to ferry information out of the country, but some of these people are seriously going to get themselves into trouble.If you do not have a working knowledge of routing, pf/iptables, and squid, please do not run a proxy.
You are going to get yourself into more trouble than having rocks thrown at you.Or worse, your misconfiguration is going to get people in Iran killed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395725</id>
	<title>I've always wondered</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245405780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That whole Middle East/Persian persuasion is fond of throwing rocks.</p><p>When they drive up to someone and start throwing rocks, did they go collect rocks before hand?</p><p>Bunch of dudes picking around a nearby riverbed for rocks muttering to themselves that they are so going to stone that infidel?</p><p>Then go driving around with a carload full of angry men with buckets of rocks?</p><p>Seems like a lot of planning.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That whole Middle East/Persian persuasion is fond of throwing rocks.When they drive up to someone and start throwing rocks , did they go collect rocks before hand ? Bunch of dudes picking around a nearby riverbed for rocks muttering to themselves that they are so going to stone that infidel ? Then go driving around with a carload full of angry men with buckets of rocks ? Seems like a lot of planning .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That whole Middle East/Persian persuasion is fond of throwing rocks.When they drive up to someone and start throwing rocks, did they go collect rocks before hand?Bunch of dudes picking around a nearby riverbed for rocks muttering to themselves that they are so going to stone that infidel?Then go driving around with a carload full of angry men with buckets of rocks?Seems like a lot of planning.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395247</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245403860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd be inclined to suspect, pending further information, that the guys who pulled this are your basic freelance nationalists, rather than actual agents. A few guys in a car, throwing rocks to no apparent effect, isn't exactly 007 stuff. A "car accident" (or heck, a standard homicide, those are common enough, just nick the guy's wallet so it looks apolitical) would have been much more professional.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd be inclined to suspect , pending further information , that the guys who pulled this are your basic freelance nationalists , rather than actual agents .
A few guys in a car , throwing rocks to no apparent effect , is n't exactly 007 stuff .
A " car accident " ( or heck , a standard homicide , those are common enough , just nick the guy 's wallet so it looks apolitical ) would have been much more professional .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd be inclined to suspect, pending further information, that the guys who pulled this are your basic freelance nationalists, rather than actual agents.
A few guys in a car, throwing rocks to no apparent effect, isn't exactly 007 stuff.
A "car accident" (or heck, a standard homicide, those are common enough, just nick the guy's wallet so it looks apolitical) would have been much more professional.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395463</id>
	<title>Re:No, this stops</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1245404700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The single click and least trouble free solution to help right now seems as this one:</p><p><a href="http://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-relay.html.en" title="torproject.org">http://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-relay.html.en</a> [torproject.org]</p><p>If you don't know about it, Tor is a distributed proxy system which helps people in oppressive areas.</p><p>If you have questions about legitimacy of helping such a system, US DOD itself designed it and suggests their own personnel to use it when abroad.</p><p>If you think like a Iran nerd, Tor would be the only solution to implement really fast to gather and send information now. It could be life saving since those countries are really at limit of spying the internet right now.</p><p>They say just spare 20 KB (not MB) a second upspeed is enough. It is even lower than torrent traffic and shouldn't effect regular internet usage in any way even if you have multiple computers on NAT etc. (install to single in that case)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The single click and least trouble free solution to help right now seems as this one : http : //www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-relay.html.en [ torproject.org ] If you do n't know about it , Tor is a distributed proxy system which helps people in oppressive areas.If you have questions about legitimacy of helping such a system , US DOD itself designed it and suggests their own personnel to use it when abroad.If you think like a Iran nerd , Tor would be the only solution to implement really fast to gather and send information now .
It could be life saving since those countries are really at limit of spying the internet right now.They say just spare 20 KB ( not MB ) a second upspeed is enough .
It is even lower than torrent traffic and should n't effect regular internet usage in any way even if you have multiple computers on NAT etc .
( install to single in that case )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The single click and least trouble free solution to help right now seems as this one:http://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-relay.html.en [torproject.org]If you don't know about it, Tor is a distributed proxy system which helps people in oppressive areas.If you have questions about legitimacy of helping such a system, US DOD itself designed it and suggests their own personnel to use it when abroad.If you think like a Iran nerd, Tor would be the only solution to implement really fast to gather and send information now.
It could be life saving since those countries are really at limit of spying the internet right now.They say just spare 20 KB (not MB) a second upspeed is enough.
It is even lower than torrent traffic and shouldn't effect regular internet usage in any way even if you have multiple computers on NAT etc.
(install to single in that case)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396737</id>
	<title>Two Words:</title>
	<author>chrispycreeme</author>
	<datestamp>1245410520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Iranian Rednecks</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Iranian Rednecks</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Iranian Rednecks</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397181</id>
	<title>ultranationalists from theocratic countries</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245413040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>do not have a monopoly on the concept of martyrdom</p><p>anyone who sacrifices flesh and blood for a noble common cause is instantly elevated to heroic status to be emulated</p><p>whether or not this ohio guy's story is true, the ayatollah's warning today means a lot of blood is going to flow soon enough in tehran and anywhere else in the world serious targets run to</p><p>but take note, you basij assholes, while you murder your fellow countrymen who simply want a less intolerant life in iran: you are creating martyrs, and we are watching</p><p>who are we who are watching? no, not your tired traditional bogeymen of the imperialist american or the colonial british. we are the world, and we see what the truth is, and this has nothing to with meddling foreign powers. it has everything to do with good iranians honestly and organically wanting to make a better country</p><p>and we see the tiananmen square bullshit you are about to pull. and you will murder many. and you are not making a stronger iran, you are making a weaker one. because you are killing your better selves</p><p>fuck you basij assholes. however religious you think you are, you are most certainly going to whatever hell your religion affords you for the actions you are about to unleash</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>do not have a monopoly on the concept of martyrdomanyone who sacrifices flesh and blood for a noble common cause is instantly elevated to heroic status to be emulatedwhether or not this ohio guy 's story is true , the ayatollah 's warning today means a lot of blood is going to flow soon enough in tehran and anywhere else in the world serious targets run tobut take note , you basij assholes , while you murder your fellow countrymen who simply want a less intolerant life in iran : you are creating martyrs , and we are watchingwho are we who are watching ?
no , not your tired traditional bogeymen of the imperialist american or the colonial british .
we are the world , and we see what the truth is , and this has nothing to with meddling foreign powers .
it has everything to do with good iranians honestly and organically wanting to make a better countryand we see the tiananmen square bullshit you are about to pull .
and you will murder many .
and you are not making a stronger iran , you are making a weaker one .
because you are killing your better selvesfuck you basij assholes .
however religious you think you are , you are most certainly going to whatever hell your religion affords you for the actions you are about to unleash</tokentext>
<sentencetext>do not have a monopoly on the concept of martyrdomanyone who sacrifices flesh and blood for a noble common cause is instantly elevated to heroic status to be emulatedwhether or not this ohio guy's story is true, the ayatollah's warning today means a lot of blood is going to flow soon enough in tehran and anywhere else in the world serious targets run tobut take note, you basij assholes, while you murder your fellow countrymen who simply want a less intolerant life in iran: you are creating martyrs, and we are watchingwho are we who are watching?
no, not your tired traditional bogeymen of the imperialist american or the colonial british.
we are the world, and we see what the truth is, and this has nothing to with meddling foreign powers.
it has everything to do with good iranians honestly and organically wanting to make a better countryand we see the tiananmen square bullshit you are about to pull.
and you will murder many.
and you are not making a stronger iran, you are making a weaker one.
because you are killing your better selvesfuck you basij assholes.
however religious you think you are, you are most certainly going to whatever hell your religion affords you for the actions you are about to unleash</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395509</id>
	<title>Speak the truth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245404940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>pay the price</p><p>not a hero, unless you die</p><p>there are others, pick whichever sounds awesomer to you</p><p>wish i could be like him</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>pay the pricenot a hero , unless you diethere are others , pick whichever sounds awesomer to youwish i could be like him</tokentext>
<sentencetext>pay the pricenot a hero, unless you diethere are others, pick whichever sounds awesomer to youwish i could be like him</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28401861</id>
	<title>Re:Right, that's the only reason</title>
	<author>jabster</author>
	<datestamp>1245513120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>    Expressing support and best wishes for the protestors gives them a boost in spirit that they need if they are to succeed.</i></p><p><i>I think its pretty insulting to the Iranian opposition, especially given the "spirit" they have demonstrated thus far, to suggest that their morale will crack if they aren't given an explicit and direct endorsement by a foreign leader, particularly the leader of a country that has pointed to their nation as an enemy for decades.</i></p><p>Not so. A lot of the Soviet dissident leaders took great pride in knowing that Reagan fully supported them. It gave them more hope and willingness to keep up the fight knowing that someone outside the USSR was supporting them. And we did look at the USSR as an enemy for decades (rightfully so).</p><p>Same thing with Poland the Solidarity movement. Soviets cracked down, Reagan full-heartedly supported Solidarity and the Polish people, telling the current leadership that to continue the crackdown would mean an end to "business as usual" with the US.</p><p>It's not that Obama is afraid to "take a hit" for supporting the Iranian opposition, I just don't believe that he wants them to succeed. I honestly don't believe that he believes in freedom and democracy enough to come out in support of the opposition. He wants business as usual with Iran and Ahmadinajand (sp?). A freedom and democracy uprising basically undermines his Cairo Speech To The Muslim World. I think he's too full of himself to support the opposition in Iran.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Expressing support and best wishes for the protestors gives them a boost in spirit that they need if they are to succeed.I think its pretty insulting to the Iranian opposition , especially given the " spirit " they have demonstrated thus far , to suggest that their morale will crack if they are n't given an explicit and direct endorsement by a foreign leader , particularly the leader of a country that has pointed to their nation as an enemy for decades.Not so .
A lot of the Soviet dissident leaders took great pride in knowing that Reagan fully supported them .
It gave them more hope and willingness to keep up the fight knowing that someone outside the USSR was supporting them .
And we did look at the USSR as an enemy for decades ( rightfully so ) .Same thing with Poland the Solidarity movement .
Soviets cracked down , Reagan full-heartedly supported Solidarity and the Polish people , telling the current leadership that to continue the crackdown would mean an end to " business as usual " with the US.It 's not that Obama is afraid to " take a hit " for supporting the Iranian opposition , I just do n't believe that he wants them to succeed .
I honestly do n't believe that he believes in freedom and democracy enough to come out in support of the opposition .
He wants business as usual with Iran and Ahmadinajand ( sp ? ) .
A freedom and democracy uprising basically undermines his Cairo Speech To The Muslim World .
I think he 's too full of himself to support the opposition in Iran .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>    Expressing support and best wishes for the protestors gives them a boost in spirit that they need if they are to succeed.I think its pretty insulting to the Iranian opposition, especially given the "spirit" they have demonstrated thus far, to suggest that their morale will crack if they aren't given an explicit and direct endorsement by a foreign leader, particularly the leader of a country that has pointed to their nation as an enemy for decades.Not so.
A lot of the Soviet dissident leaders took great pride in knowing that Reagan fully supported them.
It gave them more hope and willingness to keep up the fight knowing that someone outside the USSR was supporting them.
And we did look at the USSR as an enemy for decades (rightfully so).Same thing with Poland the Solidarity movement.
Soviets cracked down, Reagan full-heartedly supported Solidarity and the Polish people, telling the current leadership that to continue the crackdown would mean an end to "business as usual" with the US.It's not that Obama is afraid to "take a hit" for supporting the Iranian opposition, I just don't believe that he wants them to succeed.
I honestly don't believe that he believes in freedom and democracy enough to come out in support of the opposition.
He wants business as usual with Iran and Ahmadinajand (sp?).
A freedom and democracy uprising basically undermines his Cairo Speech To The Muslim World.
I think he's too full of himself to support the opposition in Iran.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395943</id>
	<title>Try that around here</title>
	<author>HangingChad</author>
	<datestamp>1245406740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i> The men, who appeared to ProtesterHelp to be either Iranian or Lebanese, drove up besides him and threw rocks at him while shouting,</i>

</p><p>Try that around here. The headline would read something like Mystery Attackers Killed In Hail of Gunfire - Bystanders join police shooting at attackers in van.

</p><p>I'm always surprised reading about incidents like that.  I guess when you live farther from town you don't depend on the cops for protection.  The only thing they could do getting here 15 minutes later is fill out the reports.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The men , who appeared to ProtesterHelp to be either Iranian or Lebanese , drove up besides him and threw rocks at him while shouting , Try that around here .
The headline would read something like Mystery Attackers Killed In Hail of Gunfire - Bystanders join police shooting at attackers in van .
I 'm always surprised reading about incidents like that .
I guess when you live farther from town you do n't depend on the cops for protection .
The only thing they could do getting here 15 minutes later is fill out the reports .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  The men, who appeared to ProtesterHelp to be either Iranian or Lebanese, drove up besides him and threw rocks at him while shouting,

Try that around here.
The headline would read something like Mystery Attackers Killed In Hail of Gunfire - Bystanders join police shooting at attackers in van.
I'm always surprised reading about incidents like that.
I guess when you live farther from town you don't depend on the cops for protection.
The only thing they could do getting here 15 minutes later is fill out the reports.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396283</id>
	<title>Re:Right, that's the only reason</title>
	<author>kindbud</author>
	<datestamp>1245408360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>So Democracy in Iraq, neighbors to Iran, had no influence at all on Iranians *also* wanting real elections?</i></p><p>There's no reason to think it did.  Do you have one?  Democracy has been known about in Iran for far longer than Bush's misadventures in Iraq.  And on the other side of Iran, what about the influence of what the US carried out in Afghanistan?  Do you think that may have influenced some in Iran to support the mullahs, lest Iran descend into tribal anarchy like Afghanistan did when we toppled the Taliban regime?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So Democracy in Iraq , neighbors to Iran , had no influence at all on Iranians * also * wanting real elections ? There 's no reason to think it did .
Do you have one ?
Democracy has been known about in Iran for far longer than Bush 's misadventures in Iraq .
And on the other side of Iran , what about the influence of what the US carried out in Afghanistan ?
Do you think that may have influenced some in Iran to support the mullahs , lest Iran descend into tribal anarchy like Afghanistan did when we toppled the Taliban regime ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Democracy in Iraq, neighbors to Iran, had no influence at all on Iranians *also* wanting real elections?There's no reason to think it did.
Do you have one?
Democracy has been known about in Iran for far longer than Bush's misadventures in Iraq.
And on the other side of Iran, what about the influence of what the US carried out in Afghanistan?
Do you think that may have influenced some in Iran to support the mullahs, lest Iran descend into tribal anarchy like Afghanistan did when we toppled the Taliban regime?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28402299</id>
	<title>Re:No, this stops</title>
	<author>KingAlanI</author>
	<datestamp>1245516720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's the problem with TOR though<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... even if there are people who really need it [like these Iranian dissidents], there are nuisances that I don't want to bother helping (like the people who want to shield their BitTorrenting), and people that I'm actively against helping (like the pedo's and white supremacists mentioned in a nephew post)<br>Not mention, can you get legally burned for helping the wrong people? {I'm not talking about trumped-up charges for helping 'undesirables' per se...]</p><p>As other posters have discussed, and as I recognize, if you could tell who was using it, that would defeat the purpose</p><p>Maybe I'm being paranoid, but still...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's the problem with TOR though ... even if there are people who really need it [ like these Iranian dissidents ] , there are nuisances that I do n't want to bother helping ( like the people who want to shield their BitTorrenting ) , and people that I 'm actively against helping ( like the pedo 's and white supremacists mentioned in a nephew post ) Not mention , can you get legally burned for helping the wrong people ?
{ I 'm not talking about trumped-up charges for helping 'undesirables ' per se... ] As other posters have discussed , and as I recognize , if you could tell who was using it , that would defeat the purposeMaybe I 'm being paranoid , but still.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's the problem with TOR though ... even if there are people who really need it [like these Iranian dissidents], there are nuisances that I don't want to bother helping (like the people who want to shield their BitTorrenting), and people that I'm actively against helping (like the pedo's and white supremacists mentioned in a nephew post)Not mention, can you get legally burned for helping the wrong people?
{I'm not talking about trumped-up charges for helping 'undesirables' per se...]As other posters have discussed, and as I recognize, if you could tell who was using it, that would defeat the purposeMaybe I'm being paranoid, but still...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395529</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>eln</author>
	<datestamp>1245405000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>It was clearly CIA agents trying to come up with a pretense for an invasion of Iran by equipping Iranian-looking people with WMDs (rocks HURT!) and having them attack a True Patriot (tm).
<br> <br>
A few laps through the news cycle, and these guys will be reported as a band of agents financed by Osama bin Laden under orders from the Ayatollah to fire nuclear-tipped RPGs at a guy who was on his way to a fundraiser for orphaned babies of US troops killed in Iraq.  A quick trip to the UN with a vial of uranium, and we're off to the races.
<br> <br>
Really, this is such elementary stuff I'm amazed I have to explain it to you people.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It was clearly CIA agents trying to come up with a pretense for an invasion of Iran by equipping Iranian-looking people with WMDs ( rocks HURT !
) and having them attack a True Patriot ( tm ) .
A few laps through the news cycle , and these guys will be reported as a band of agents financed by Osama bin Laden under orders from the Ayatollah to fire nuclear-tipped RPGs at a guy who was on his way to a fundraiser for orphaned babies of US troops killed in Iraq .
A quick trip to the UN with a vial of uranium , and we 're off to the races .
Really , this is such elementary stuff I 'm amazed I have to explain it to you people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was clearly CIA agents trying to come up with a pretense for an invasion of Iran by equipping Iranian-looking people with WMDs (rocks HURT!
) and having them attack a True Patriot (tm).
A few laps through the news cycle, and these guys will be reported as a band of agents financed by Osama bin Laden under orders from the Ayatollah to fire nuclear-tipped RPGs at a guy who was on his way to a fundraiser for orphaned babies of US troops killed in Iraq.
A quick trip to the UN with a vial of uranium, and we're off to the races.
Really, this is such elementary stuff I'm amazed I have to explain it to you people.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28399409</id>
	<title>Re:Right, that's the only reason</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245435360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you should accept that Obama is way smarter than you ever will be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you should accept that Obama is way smarter than you ever will be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you should accept that Obama is way smarter than you ever will be.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28399237</id>
	<title>Re:Homland Security Indeed</title>
	<author>twostix</author>
	<datestamp>1245432900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well the rest of the world (TM) is pretty used to that coming from your direction so in a perfect world it would be a nice little wake up call to how it feels and that perhaps you should stop doing things like that to the rest of us.  Of course it's only the barest of tastes as they didn't kidnap and export him to Syria or Egypt to be imprisoned and tortured for the rest of his life, or better yet simply assassinate him as your country has so often done to people who it doesn't like in other countries.</p><p>Not even we who you consider your "allies" are immune from that!</p><p>They're obviously amateurs anyway as they didn't even try and assassinate your political leaders or overthrow your government and install a murderous dictator and then supply him with billions of dollars of military hardware and setup and train the most brutal secret police of modern history to keep you inline at your expense  - like your government did to them.</p><p>Wherever your CIA goes tyranny follows, always.</p><p>Unfortunately for Americans like any monster they're turning their attention toward their masters more and more these days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well the rest of the world ( TM ) is pretty used to that coming from your direction so in a perfect world it would be a nice little wake up call to how it feels and that perhaps you should stop doing things like that to the rest of us .
Of course it 's only the barest of tastes as they did n't kidnap and export him to Syria or Egypt to be imprisoned and tortured for the rest of his life , or better yet simply assassinate him as your country has so often done to people who it does n't like in other countries.Not even we who you consider your " allies " are immune from that ! They 're obviously amateurs anyway as they did n't even try and assassinate your political leaders or overthrow your government and install a murderous dictator and then supply him with billions of dollars of military hardware and setup and train the most brutal secret police of modern history to keep you inline at your expense - like your government did to them.Wherever your CIA goes tyranny follows , always.Unfortunately for Americans like any monster they 're turning their attention toward their masters more and more these days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well the rest of the world (TM) is pretty used to that coming from your direction so in a perfect world it would be a nice little wake up call to how it feels and that perhaps you should stop doing things like that to the rest of us.
Of course it's only the barest of tastes as they didn't kidnap and export him to Syria or Egypt to be imprisoned and tortured for the rest of his life, or better yet simply assassinate him as your country has so often done to people who it doesn't like in other countries.Not even we who you consider your "allies" are immune from that!They're obviously amateurs anyway as they didn't even try and assassinate your political leaders or overthrow your government and install a murderous dictator and then supply him with billions of dollars of military hardware and setup and train the most brutal secret police of modern history to keep you inline at your expense  - like your government did to them.Wherever your CIA goes tyranny follows, always.Unfortunately for Americans like any monster they're turning their attention toward their masters more and more these days.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395977</id>
	<title>just goes to show</title>
	<author>Kuciwalker</author>
	<datestamp>1245406860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google et. al. can support pro-democracy movements... when they aren't in important emerging markets like China.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google et .
al. can support pro-democracy movements... when they are n't in important emerging markets like China .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google et.
al. can support pro-democracy movements... when they aren't in important emerging markets like China.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395173</id>
	<title>Now he knows that...</title>
	<author>jayme0227</author>
	<datestamp>1245403680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>he's making a difference.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>he 's making a difference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>he's making a difference.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28400001</id>
	<title>Re:Homland Security Indeed</title>
	<author>Yogiz</author>
	<datestamp>1245531180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In all honesty the Iranian government did probably not organize it.  The guy probably bragged about his doings to his friends or even called out the public to react to the conflict. Locals who didn't agree heard him.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In all honesty the Iranian government did probably not organize it .
The guy probably bragged about his doings to his friends or even called out the public to react to the conflict .
Locals who did n't agree heard him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In all honesty the Iranian government did probably not organize it.
The guy probably bragged about his doings to his friends or even called out the public to react to the conflict.
Locals who didn't agree heard him.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395325</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396051</id>
	<title>if there are Iranian Government Agents in the USA</title>
	<author>FudRucker</author>
	<datestamp>1245407280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>the us should be hunting them down and killing them</htmltext>
<tokenext>the us should be hunting them down and killing them</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the us should be hunting them down and killing them</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395605</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>Chris Burke</author>
	<datestamp>1245405300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I'd be inclined to suspect, pending further information, that the guys who pulled this are your basic freelance nationalists, rather than actual agents.</i></p><p>Really.  My first thought is that they're just your average every day violent assholes, who in this case just happen to be Iranian Ahmadinejad/Khaemeni/establishment supporters in America.</p><p>I don't think we need to resort to international conspiracy to explain this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd be inclined to suspect , pending further information , that the guys who pulled this are your basic freelance nationalists , rather than actual agents.Really .
My first thought is that they 're just your average every day violent assholes , who in this case just happen to be Iranian Ahmadinejad/Khaemeni/establishment supporters in America.I do n't think we need to resort to international conspiracy to explain this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd be inclined to suspect, pending further information, that the guys who pulled this are your basic freelance nationalists, rather than actual agents.Really.
My first thought is that they're just your average every day violent assholes, who in this case just happen to be Iranian Ahmadinejad/Khaemeni/establishment supporters in America.I don't think we need to resort to international conspiracy to explain this.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395247</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397327</id>
	<title>I'm Suspicious</title>
	<author>coaxial</author>
	<datestamp>1245414180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait.  So some guy in the US with a twitter account is attacked by what is definitely implied to be Basij militia, and it makes news on some buried diary on a political activist blog?  What?  The guy didn't have a guts to carve an A into his own cheek?  (At least an 'A' is symmetric.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait .
So some guy in the US with a twitter account is attacked by what is definitely implied to be Basij militia , and it makes news on some buried diary on a political activist blog ?
What ? The guy did n't have a guts to carve an A into his own cheek ?
( At least an 'A ' is symmetric .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait.
So some guy in the US with a twitter account is attacked by what is definitely implied to be Basij militia, and it makes news on some buried diary on a political activist blog?
What?  The guy didn't have a guts to carve an A into his own cheek?
(At least an 'A' is symmetric.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395511</id>
	<title>Re:skeptical</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245404940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Anyone remember the <b>Republican campaign worker</b> who carved a backwards B into her face and blamed it on an <b>Obama supporter</b>?</i></p><p>Fixed that for you.</p><p>I find it heartening that the freepers are so quick to dismiss this story. Perhaps they will recognize that they are identifying with the enemies of democracy in Iran, and the cognitive dissonance will result in personal growth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone remember the Republican campaign worker who carved a backwards B into her face and blamed it on an Obama supporter ? Fixed that for you.I find it heartening that the freepers are so quick to dismiss this story .
Perhaps they will recognize that they are identifying with the enemies of democracy in Iran , and the cognitive dissonance will result in personal growth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone remember the Republican campaign worker who carved a backwards B into her face and blamed it on an Obama supporter?Fixed that for you.I find it heartening that the freepers are so quick to dismiss this story.
Perhaps they will recognize that they are identifying with the enemies of democracy in Iran, and the cognitive dissonance will result in personal growth.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395237</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395601</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>rabuksak</author>
	<datestamp>1245405300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I absolutely hate that you nailed that squarely on the head<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... which is funny, of course, but at the same time it's not.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I absolutely hate that you nailed that squarely on the head ... which is funny , of course , but at the same time it 's not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I absolutely hate that you nailed that squarely on the head ... which is funny, of course, but at the same time it's not.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395147</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396323</id>
	<title>Re:Another Note on this.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245408600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So your anonymous recommendation would be shut up, sit down and stay out of it.  After the Iranian government drops the hammer I take it you will cluck disapprovingly and possibly post negative comments about the next 40 years of religious, economic, social and educational repression?  Perhaps you feel the risk of a misconfigured proxy exceeds that of a nuclear armed extremist government?</p><p>I also guess you know enough to help but choose not to.  Sad.  Its like hearing the crossing guard telling you not to go into the street while you duck out to pull a child out of the way of a bus.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So your anonymous recommendation would be shut up , sit down and stay out of it .
After the Iranian government drops the hammer I take it you will cluck disapprovingly and possibly post negative comments about the next 40 years of religious , economic , social and educational repression ?
Perhaps you feel the risk of a misconfigured proxy exceeds that of a nuclear armed extremist government ? I also guess you know enough to help but choose not to .
Sad. Its like hearing the crossing guard telling you not to go into the street while you duck out to pull a child out of the way of a bus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So your anonymous recommendation would be shut up, sit down and stay out of it.
After the Iranian government drops the hammer I take it you will cluck disapprovingly and possibly post negative comments about the next 40 years of religious, economic, social and educational repression?
Perhaps you feel the risk of a misconfigured proxy exceeds that of a nuclear armed extremist government?I also guess you know enough to help but choose not to.
Sad.  Its like hearing the crossing guard telling you not to go into the street while you duck out to pull a child out of the way of a bus.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395259</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397383</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>rs79</author>
	<datestamp>1245414600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> <b>"For all the hatred spewed at the direction of the USA, I've got to say there's quite an effort underway by normal citizens to help. There are people from all over the world trying to help, but I'd say a good number of them are from the USA."</b></i> </p><p>fring is being used a lot in this too. the servers are in tel aviv.</p><p>"go figure"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" For all the hatred spewed at the direction of the USA , I 've got to say there 's quite an effort underway by normal citizens to help .
There are people from all over the world trying to help , but I 'd say a good number of them are from the USA .
" fring is being used a lot in this too .
the servers are in tel aviv .
" go figure "</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "For all the hatred spewed at the direction of the USA, I've got to say there's quite an effort underway by normal citizens to help.
There are people from all over the world trying to help, but I'd say a good number of them are from the USA.
" fring is being used a lot in this too.
the servers are in tel aviv.
"go figure"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395391</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395683</id>
	<title>Re:Homland Security Indeed</title>
	<author>ender-</author>
	<datestamp>1245405600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that, apparently, a foreign government identified an American Citizen and had operatives attack that individual? On US Soil? I wonder if there will be hit squads next, or teams of operatives attempting to sabotage servers where proxies are being hosted...



This is exactly why free speech is so critical - so that I can, for example, post a comment on Slashdot without worrying about thugs attacking me for it. Flames and trolls are one thing, angry guys throwing rocks at my car? Quite another.</p></div><p>Seriously? Do you really think that the Iranian Govt/Hezbollah tracked down a Twitter user just to have a couple goons throw rocks at him? I find that hard to believe.

If they really felt threatened enough to track him down and send people out to him, he'd be dead.

At worst, this was the act of a couple mentally challenged Iranian/Lebanese ex-patriots who have bought into the BS that the Supreme Leader and his cronies have been spouting and decided to try to go scare this guy. And I'd be more likely to believe that these guys don't really even care about what's going on but stumbled on his real identity and drunkenly though it'd be "cool to go throw rocks at him and make him thing he's in big danger".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that , apparently , a foreign government identified an American Citizen and had operatives attack that individual ?
On US Soil ?
I wonder if there will be hit squads next , or teams of operatives attempting to sabotage servers where proxies are being hosted.. . This is exactly why free speech is so critical - so that I can , for example , post a comment on Slashdot without worrying about thugs attacking me for it .
Flames and trolls are one thing , angry guys throwing rocks at my car ?
Quite another.Seriously ?
Do you really think that the Iranian Govt/Hezbollah tracked down a Twitter user just to have a couple goons throw rocks at him ?
I find that hard to believe .
If they really felt threatened enough to track him down and send people out to him , he 'd be dead .
At worst , this was the act of a couple mentally challenged Iranian/Lebanese ex-patriots who have bought into the BS that the Supreme Leader and his cronies have been spouting and decided to try to go scare this guy .
And I 'd be more likely to believe that these guys do n't really even care about what 's going on but stumbled on his real identity and drunkenly though it 'd be " cool to go throw rocks at him and make him thing he 's in big danger " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that, apparently, a foreign government identified an American Citizen and had operatives attack that individual?
On US Soil?
I wonder if there will be hit squads next, or teams of operatives attempting to sabotage servers where proxies are being hosted...



This is exactly why free speech is so critical - so that I can, for example, post a comment on Slashdot without worrying about thugs attacking me for it.
Flames and trolls are one thing, angry guys throwing rocks at my car?
Quite another.Seriously?
Do you really think that the Iranian Govt/Hezbollah tracked down a Twitter user just to have a couple goons throw rocks at him?
I find that hard to believe.
If they really felt threatened enough to track him down and send people out to him, he'd be dead.
At worst, this was the act of a couple mentally challenged Iranian/Lebanese ex-patriots who have bought into the BS that the Supreme Leader and his cronies have been spouting and decided to try to go scare this guy.
And I'd be more likely to believe that these guys don't really even care about what's going on but stumbled on his real identity and drunkenly though it'd be "cool to go throw rocks at him and make him thing he's in big danger".
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395325</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28399855</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>indi0144</author>
	<datestamp>1245528660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's funny and all but perfectly plausible and I don't know if it's sad or just timely, I mean 2012 is not going to come to us all by itself.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's funny and all but perfectly plausible and I do n't know if it 's sad or just timely , I mean 2012 is not going to come to us all by itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's funny and all but perfectly plausible and I don't know if it's sad or just timely, I mean 2012 is not going to come to us all by itself.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395529</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28398477</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245424020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I'd be inclined to suspect, pending further information, that the guys who pulled this are your basic freelance nationalists, rather than actual agents. A few guys in a car, throwing rocks to no apparent effect, isn't exactly 007 stuff.</p></div></blockquote><p>But what do you think actual agents would do differently? Throw polished stones?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd be inclined to suspect , pending further information , that the guys who pulled this are your basic freelance nationalists , rather than actual agents .
A few guys in a car , throwing rocks to no apparent effect , is n't exactly 007 stuff.But what do you think actual agents would do differently ?
Throw polished stones ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd be inclined to suspect, pending further information, that the guys who pulled this are your basic freelance nationalists, rather than actual agents.
A few guys in a car, throwing rocks to no apparent effect, isn't exactly 007 stuff.But what do you think actual agents would do differently?
Throw polished stones?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395247</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395147</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245403620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually I was going to go with Obama saying it was Rush Limbaugh's fault and Rush Limbaugh saying it was Obama's fault all the while David Letterman was making a wisecrack about one of Palin's daughters as we learn that Jon and Kate are getting a divorce.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually I was going to go with Obama saying it was Rush Limbaugh 's fault and Rush Limbaugh saying it was Obama 's fault all the while David Letterman was making a wisecrack about one of Palin 's daughters as we learn that Jon and Kate are getting a divorce .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually I was going to go with Obama saying it was Rush Limbaugh's fault and Rush Limbaugh saying it was Obama's fault all the while David Letterman was making a wisecrack about one of Palin's daughters as we learn that Jon and Kate are getting a divorce.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395077</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396175</id>
	<title>Re:No, this stops</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245407820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Austin Heap has not only posted intructions un setting up proxy servers on Linux, OSX, and Windows, but also has been securely distributing the IP addresses to those inside Iran who need them. http://blog.austinheap.com/tag/proxy</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Austin Heap has not only posted intructions un setting up proxy servers on Linux , OSX , and Windows , but also has been securely distributing the IP addresses to those inside Iran who need them .
http : //blog.austinheap.com/tag/proxy</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Austin Heap has not only posted intructions un setting up proxy servers on Linux, OSX, and Windows, but also has been securely distributing the IP addresses to those inside Iran who need them.
http://blog.austinheap.com/tag/proxy</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395223</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397187</id>
	<title>I advise caution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245413040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I advise caution in believing this story. ProtesterHelp, earlier today, was spreading false information that Mousavi had been arrested on Twitter. The combination makes me suspect attention whoring in lieu of truth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I advise caution in believing this story .
ProtesterHelp , earlier today , was spreading false information that Mousavi had been arrested on Twitter .
The combination makes me suspect attention whoring in lieu of truth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I advise caution in believing this story.
ProtesterHelp, earlier today, was spreading false information that Mousavi had been arrested on Twitter.
The combination makes me suspect attention whoring in lieu of truth.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395993</id>
	<title>Re:Right, that's the only reason</title>
	<author>AhtirTano</author>
	<datestamp>1245406980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>So Democracy in Iraq, neighbors to Iran, had no influence at all on Iranians *also* wanting real elections?</i>
<p>No. I had Iranian friends and roommates in grad school starting in the early 2000's. According to them, this is the most blatant the vote rigging has ever been. The guys fresh out of Iran before the last election (not the current one) told me point blank that Ahmadinajan was going to win for domestic economy reasons.</p><p>The problem with U.S. support is NOT that the Iranian regime will crack down harder. The problem is that the US government is so unpopular there, that if we support them openly, many influential people will abandon the movement. It happened back in the early 90s with Bush Sr., and it could happen again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So Democracy in Iraq , neighbors to Iran , had no influence at all on Iranians * also * wanting real elections ?
No. I had Iranian friends and roommates in grad school starting in the early 2000 's .
According to them , this is the most blatant the vote rigging has ever been .
The guys fresh out of Iran before the last election ( not the current one ) told me point blank that Ahmadinajan was going to win for domestic economy reasons.The problem with U.S. support is NOT that the Iranian regime will crack down harder .
The problem is that the US government is so unpopular there , that if we support them openly , many influential people will abandon the movement .
It happened back in the early 90s with Bush Sr. , and it could happen again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Democracy in Iraq, neighbors to Iran, had no influence at all on Iranians *also* wanting real elections?
No. I had Iranian friends and roommates in grad school starting in the early 2000's.
According to them, this is the most blatant the vote rigging has ever been.
The guys fresh out of Iran before the last election (not the current one) told me point blank that Ahmadinajan was going to win for domestic economy reasons.The problem with U.S. support is NOT that the Iranian regime will crack down harder.
The problem is that the US government is so unpopular there, that if we support them openly, many influential people will abandon the movement.
It happened back in the early 90s with Bush Sr., and it could happen again.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395345</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28398139</id>
	<title>Re:Do this stuff ANONYMOUSLY as possible</title>
	<author>CraftyJack</author>
	<datestamp>1245420540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>when you're messing with that kind of stuff, you want to be as anonymous as humanly possible.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Because I would absolutely anticipate this kind of harsh backlash from the same crazy fuckers that are doing the same thing in Iran.</p></div><p>There's also something to be said for standing up to the "crazy fuckers" more publicly.  It goes beyond providing comms support, and gives people something to rally around.  For example, this story will doubtlessly attract many others willing to provide support.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>when you 're messing with that kind of stuff , you want to be as anonymous as humanly possible .
... Because I would absolutely anticipate this kind of harsh backlash from the same crazy fuckers that are doing the same thing in Iran.There 's also something to be said for standing up to the " crazy fuckers " more publicly .
It goes beyond providing comms support , and gives people something to rally around .
For example , this story will doubtlessly attract many others willing to provide support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>when you're messing with that kind of stuff, you want to be as anonymous as humanly possible.
... Because I would absolutely anticipate this kind of harsh backlash from the same crazy fuckers that are doing the same thing in Iran.There's also something to be said for standing up to the "crazy fuckers" more publicly.
It goes beyond providing comms support, and gives people something to rally around.
For example, this story will doubtlessly attract many others willing to provide support.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395159</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396279</id>
	<title>Re:Homland Security Indeed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245408360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are fucking kidding me, right?</p><p>The Jocks threw some rocks at the Nerd because he doesn't support their team. Criminal, yes, international incident, no.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are fucking kidding me , right ? The Jocks threw some rocks at the Nerd because he does n't support their team .
Criminal , yes , international incident , no .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are fucking kidding me, right?The Jocks threw some rocks at the Nerd because he doesn't support their team.
Criminal, yes, international incident, no.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395325</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395327</id>
	<title>Supreme Leader</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245404160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Supreme Leader says they are going to crack down on protestors because "the election wasn't rigged." Right, you crack down on protestors because you did not rig the election. That makes total sense...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Supreme Leader says they are going to crack down on protestors because " the election was n't rigged .
" Right , you crack down on protestors because you did not rig the election .
That makes total sense.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Supreme Leader says they are going to crack down on protestors because "the election wasn't rigged.
" Right, you crack down on protestors because you did not rig the election.
That makes total sense...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396931</id>
	<title>Re:Homland Security Indeed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245411480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ever hear of Mossad? They have killed numerous Americans in America. Then there were the Russians and others... but it appears you never read much news. Enjoy your daydream.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ever hear of Mossad ?
They have killed numerous Americans in America .
Then there were the Russians and others... but it appears you never read much news .
Enjoy your daydream .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ever hear of Mossad?
They have killed numerous Americans in America.
Then there were the Russians and others... but it appears you never read much news.
Enjoy your daydream.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395325</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396129</id>
	<title>Re:skeptical</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245407580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Anyone remember the Republican campaign worker who carved a backwards B into her face and blamed it on an Obama supporter?"</p><p>Yes.  And I also remember ACORN currently being under investigation in several states for committing vote fraud during the 2008 election season.  Let's not pretend that both sides aren't guilty as hell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Anyone remember the Republican campaign worker who carved a backwards B into her face and blamed it on an Obama supporter ? " Yes .
And I also remember ACORN currently being under investigation in several states for committing vote fraud during the 2008 election season .
Let 's not pretend that both sides are n't guilty as hell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Anyone remember the Republican campaign worker who carved a backwards B into her face and blamed it on an Obama supporter?"Yes.
And I also remember ACORN currently being under investigation in several states for committing vote fraud during the 2008 election season.
Let's not pretend that both sides aren't guilty as hell.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395511</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28396351</id>
	<title>Huffington Unable to Confirm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245408720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would be suspect to believe this story. The Huffington Post tried to verify this story, along with police records of the incident, and were unable to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would be suspect to believe this story .
The Huffington Post tried to verify this story , along with police records of the incident , and were unable to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would be suspect to believe this story.
The Huffington Post tried to verify this story, along with police records of the incident, and were unable to.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395841</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>FleaPlus</author>
	<datestamp>1245406320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><b>A "car accident" (or heck, a standard homicide, those are common enough, just nick the guy's wallet so it looks apolitical) would have been much more professional.</b></p><p>Speaking of...</p><p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/17/iran-protests-day-five" title="guardian.co.uk">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/17/iran-protests-day-five</a> [guardian.co.uk] </p><p><div class="quote"><p>There were unconfirmed reports that Mohammad Asgari, who was responsible for the security of the IT network in Iran's interior ministry, <b>was killed yesterday in a suspicious car accident in Tehran.</b> Asgari had reportedly leaked evidence that the elections were rigged to alter the votes from the provinces. Asgari was said to have <b>leaked information that showed Mousavi had won almost 19m votes, and should therefore be president.</b></p> </div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A " car accident " ( or heck , a standard homicide , those are common enough , just nick the guy 's wallet so it looks apolitical ) would have been much more professional.Speaking of...http : //www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/17/iran-protests-day-five [ guardian.co.uk ] There were unconfirmed reports that Mohammad Asgari , who was responsible for the security of the IT network in Iran 's interior ministry , was killed yesterday in a suspicious car accident in Tehran .
Asgari had reportedly leaked evidence that the elections were rigged to alter the votes from the provinces .
Asgari was said to have leaked information that showed Mousavi had won almost 19m votes , and should therefore be president .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A "car accident" (or heck, a standard homicide, those are common enough, just nick the guy's wallet so it looks apolitical) would have been much more professional.Speaking of...http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/17/iran-protests-day-five [guardian.co.uk] There were unconfirmed reports that Mohammad Asgari, who was responsible for the security of the IT network in Iran's interior ministry, was killed yesterday in a suspicious car accident in Tehran.
Asgari had reportedly leaked evidence that the elections were rigged to alter the votes from the provinces.
Asgari was said to have leaked information that showed Mousavi had won almost 19m votes, and should therefore be president. 
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395247</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397661</id>
	<title>With a bullet-proof vest?</title>
	<author>Valdrax</author>
	<datestamp>1245417060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>if only they allowed concealed carry on campuses, we'd have a few less rock throwers in this country. .<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.</p></div><p>Yeah.  Why throw rocks, when you could just shoot him dead?  Seems more efficient.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>if only they allowed concealed carry on campuses , we 'd have a few less rock throwers in this country .
. .Yeah .
Why throw rocks , when you could just shoot him dead ?
Seems more efficient .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if only they allowed concealed carry on campuses, we'd have a few less rock throwers in this country.
. .Yeah.
Why throw rocks, when you could just shoot him dead?
Seems more efficient.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395121</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28398663</id>
	<title>Re:Waiting for it...</title>
	<author>Dragonslicer</author>
	<datestamp>1245426120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>WMDs (rocks HURT!)</p></div><p>Weapons of Minor Denting?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>WMDs ( rocks HURT !
) Weapons of Minor Denting ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WMDs (rocks HURT!
)Weapons of Minor Denting?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395529</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395165</id>
	<title>A terrorist attack</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245403620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>on US soil?<br>See Barack is the anti-christ~</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>on US soil ? See Barack is the anti-christ ~</tokentext>
<sentencetext>on US soil?See Barack is the anti-christ~</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28403089</id>
	<title>Re:Right, that's the only reason</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245524100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's not forget the history that made this point possible. Populist anger has been building all over the world over the last several years, especially in the last year. Major protests or riots have happened in Pakistan, Greece, Peru, France, Egypt, Mexico, Thailand and Tibet and many more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's not forget the history that made this point possible .
Populist anger has been building all over the world over the last several years , especially in the last year .
Major protests or riots have happened in Pakistan , Greece , Peru , France , Egypt , Mexico , Thailand and Tibet and many more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's not forget the history that made this point possible.
Populist anger has been building all over the world over the last several years, especially in the last year.
Major protests or riots have happened in Pakistan, Greece, Peru, France, Egypt, Mexico, Thailand and Tibet and many more.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395345</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395189</id>
	<title>Re:wonder how he could have protected himself?</title>
	<author>Em Emalb</author>
	<datestamp>1245403740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>excellent, child of satan.  Let's go through this debate all over again.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>excellent , child of satan .
Let 's go through this debate all over again .
; -P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>excellent, child of satan.
Let's go through this debate all over again.
;-P</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395121</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397703</id>
	<title>Re:why the tolerance for TERRORISM on US soil?</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1245417300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the fault of the president? really? You are a ideological nut job.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the fault of the president ?
really ? You are a ideological nut job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the fault of the president?
really? You are a ideological nut job.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28395491</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_19_1737207.28397215</id>
	<title>Re:What?!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245413340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google supports Klingon, I thought.</p><p>And Facebook has had Persian for months.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google supports Klingon , I thought.And Facebook has had Persian for months .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google supports Klingon, I thought.And Facebook has had Persian for months.</sentencetext>
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