<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_16_1324225</id>
	<title>Opera 10.0 Released, With Integrated Web Server Functionality</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1245160140000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://edgeemu.net/" rel="nofollow">sherl0k</a> writes <i>"<a href="http://unite.opera.com/">Opera 10.0, dubbed Opera Unite, has been released</a>. Built into the Web browser is a full-fledged Web server, complete with nifty little gadgets such as a 'fridge' that people can post notes onto, a chat room, a widget to stream your music library anywhere, and a built-in file-sharing mechanism. It also scores 100/100 on the <a href="http://acid3.acidtests.org/">Acid3 test</a>."</i>

 Readers <a href="http://www.fudreport.com/" rel="nofollow">fudreporter</a> and TLS point to <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/16/opera\_unite/">The Register's report on the new release</a> and a <a href="http://www.netbooknews.com/311/replace-your-server-with-opera-united/">
5-minute video demo</a>, respectively. <b>Update: 06/16 15:18 GMT</b> by <b> <a href="http://www.monkey.org/~timothy/">T</a>: </b> Roar Lauritzsen of Opera Software writes to point out that "release" isn't quite the right word here; though you can download it, version 10.0 is still in beta, and the version with Unite is a labs (experimental) release.</htmltext>
<tokenext>sherl0k writes " Opera 10.0 , dubbed Opera Unite , has been released .
Built into the Web browser is a full-fledged Web server , complete with nifty little gadgets such as a 'fridge ' that people can post notes onto , a chat room , a widget to stream your music library anywhere , and a built-in file-sharing mechanism .
It also scores 100/100 on the Acid3 test .
" Readers fudreporter and TLS point to The Register 's report on the new release and a 5-minute video demo , respectively .
Update : 06/16 15 : 18 GMT by T : Roar Lauritzsen of Opera Software writes to point out that " release " is n't quite the right word here ; though you can download it , version 10.0 is still in beta , and the version with Unite is a labs ( experimental ) release .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sherl0k writes "Opera 10.0, dubbed Opera Unite, has been released.
Built into the Web browser is a full-fledged Web server, complete with nifty little gadgets such as a 'fridge' that people can post notes onto, a chat room, a widget to stream your music library anywhere, and a built-in file-sharing mechanism.
It also scores 100/100 on the Acid3 test.
"

 Readers fudreporter and TLS point to The Register's report on the new release and a 
5-minute video demo, respectively.
Update: 06/16 15:18 GMT by  T:  Roar Lauritzsen of Opera Software writes to point out that "release" isn't quite the right word here; though you can download it, version 10.0 is still in beta, and the version with Unite is a labs (experimental) release.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348149</id>
	<title>Re:Kneejerk reaction like normal.</title>
	<author>damburger</author>
	<datestamp>1245170100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It could possibly be that Google is in America (or more specifically, California which is kind of a major geek hub) whilst Opera are off in Europe. Google are also more showy about their new technology - compare the lengths of the demo videos for one thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It could possibly be that Google is in America ( or more specifically , California which is kind of a major geek hub ) whilst Opera are off in Europe .
Google are also more showy about their new technology - compare the lengths of the demo videos for one thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It could possibly be that Google is in America (or more specifically, California which is kind of a major geek hub) whilst Opera are off in Europe.
Google are also more showy about their new technology - compare the lengths of the demo videos for one thing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347347</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347923</id>
	<title>Re:Google Wave, anyone?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245169080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>imagine Google Wave built into Opera Unite, and Opera Unite built into a true P2P network.</p><p>All of a sudden, we have a browser for P2P! Hooooray!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>imagine Google Wave built into Opera Unite , and Opera Unite built into a true P2P network.All of a sudden , we have a browser for P2P !
Hooooray ! !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>imagine Google Wave built into Opera Unite, and Opera Unite built into a true P2P network.All of a sudden, we have a browser for P2P!
Hooooray!!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347303</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28352211</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245184380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>7\% Marketshare in Europe (double that of Safari).</p><p>How come all the tools seem to have inhabited Slashdot recently...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>7 \ % Marketshare in Europe ( double that of Safari ) .How come all the tools seem to have inhabited Slashdot recently.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>7\% Marketshare in Europe (double that of Safari).How come all the tools seem to have inhabited Slashdot recently...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346991</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347191</id>
	<title>Not 10.0 release</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245165060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just in case no one else has posted, but this is not the 10.0 release. This is a labs build a little further on than the 10.0 beta. it is not final.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just in case no one else has posted , but this is not the 10.0 release .
This is a labs build a little further on than the 10.0 beta .
it is not final .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just in case no one else has posted, but this is not the 10.0 release.
This is a labs build a little further on than the 10.0 beta.
it is not final.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28349497</id>
	<title>What about the ISPs?</title>
	<author>niteshifter</author>
	<datestamp>1245174840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Methinks some ISPs aren't going to like this once it is released "for real".<br>
From Comcast's TOS:</p><p>
Prohibited Uses of HSI. You agree not to use HSI for operation as an Internet service provider, <b>a server site for ftp, telnet, rlogin, e-mail hosting, "Web hosting" or other similar applications,</b> for any business enterprise, or as an end-point on a non-Comcast local area network or wide area network.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Methinks some ISPs are n't going to like this once it is released " for real " .
From Comcast 's TOS : Prohibited Uses of HSI .
You agree not to use HSI for operation as an Internet service provider , a server site for ftp , telnet , rlogin , e-mail hosting , " Web hosting " or other similar applications , for any business enterprise , or as an end-point on a non-Comcast local area network or wide area network .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Methinks some ISPs aren't going to like this once it is released "for real".
From Comcast's TOS:
Prohibited Uses of HSI.
You agree not to use HSI for operation as an Internet service provider, a server site for ftp, telnet, rlogin, e-mail hosting, "Web hosting" or other similar applications, for any business enterprise, or as an end-point on a non-Comcast local area network or wide area network.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347827</id>
	<title>Re:Alpha!</title>
	<author>Bredero</author>
	<datestamp>1245168540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah wtf, i was getting all excited untill i downloaded the thing. Love Opera but don't feel like keeping track of alpha and beta installs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah wtf , i was getting all excited untill i downloaded the thing .
Love Opera but do n't feel like keeping track of alpha and beta installs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah wtf, i was getting all excited untill i downloaded the thing.
Love Opera but don't feel like keeping track of alpha and beta installs.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347017</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347017</id>
	<title>Alpha!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245164040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Somewhere in the summary you REALLY should mention this is an ALPHA release, not a final release.</p><p>Thanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Somewhere in the summary you REALLY should mention this is an ALPHA release , not a final release.Thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somewhere in the summary you REALLY should mention this is an ALPHA release, not a final release.Thanks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348079</id>
	<title>Re:Security</title>
	<author>nametaken</author>
	<datestamp>1245169740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, but the biggest problem will be the ubiquitous linksys home router/firewall.  People will futz with them, and THEN you've got problems.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , but the biggest problem will be the ubiquitous linksys home router/firewall .
People will futz with them , and THEN you 've got problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, but the biggest problem will be the ubiquitous linksys home router/firewall.
People will futz with them, and THEN you've got problems.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347119</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347539</id>
	<title>opera - no longer an Enterprise option</title>
	<author>ekimminau</author>
	<datestamp>1245167100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>As long as the market Opera was searching for is the Home user, I guess opening up another 10 attack vectors into a users desktop/laptop isn't necessarily a bad thing but this has all but eliminated Opera from ever being a viable enterprise browser candidate. I don't care what perceived benefit there might be for adding all this crap into a web browser, the impact of adding 1,000+ clients all firing up web servers, file sharing, a chat client and all that other stuff is going to kill the WAN for any significantly sized business.

IMHO, this release is about as stupid as it gets. Someone with true brillance didn't think this through.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as the market Opera was searching for is the Home user , I guess opening up another 10 attack vectors into a users desktop/laptop is n't necessarily a bad thing but this has all but eliminated Opera from ever being a viable enterprise browser candidate .
I do n't care what perceived benefit there might be for adding all this crap into a web browser , the impact of adding 1,000 + clients all firing up web servers , file sharing , a chat client and all that other stuff is going to kill the WAN for any significantly sized business .
IMHO , this release is about as stupid as it gets .
Someone with true brillance did n't think this through .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as the market Opera was searching for is the Home user, I guess opening up another 10 attack vectors into a users desktop/laptop isn't necessarily a bad thing but this has all but eliminated Opera from ever being a viable enterprise browser candidate.
I don't care what perceived benefit there might be for adding all this crap into a web browser, the impact of adding 1,000+ clients all firing up web servers, file sharing, a chat client and all that other stuff is going to kill the WAN for any significantly sized business.
IMHO, this release is about as stupid as it gets.
Someone with true brillance didn't think this through.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28352795</id>
	<title>opera == garbage.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245143580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This isnt newsworthy, whether its a server version or a client version of Opera.  The browser doesnt work half the time.  I tried an early version and hated it, and when I was having issues with Firefox on my laptop recently, I tried every other browser, and Opera still doesnt render websites properly, I could give a rats ass about "Acid Tests".  Its not real world, so who cares.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This isnt newsworthy , whether its a server version or a client version of Opera .
The browser doesnt work half the time .
I tried an early version and hated it , and when I was having issues with Firefox on my laptop recently , I tried every other browser , and Opera still doesnt render websites properly , I could give a rats ass about " Acid Tests " .
Its not real world , so who cares .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isnt newsworthy, whether its a server version or a client version of Opera.
The browser doesnt work half the time.
I tried an early version and hated it, and when I was having issues with Firefox on my laptop recently, I tried every other browser, and Opera still doesnt render websites properly, I could give a rats ass about "Acid Tests".
Its not real world, so who cares.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347211</id>
	<title>bloat</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245165180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As cool as an integrated web server sounds, this really looks likes the bloat that made the first round of web wars really suck.  It is innovative, and will gain Opera marketshare, but what is the overall picture here?
<p>
I have said this many times.  Opera is a probably the coolest web browser. I believe the only reason they do not have more market share right now is because when there was a chance to become dominant on the non-MS platforms, they focused MS Platform and competing directly with MS, instead of filling a hole that existed at the time in the non-MS platforms.  Now it seems that they are following MS lead by providing proprietary bloat instead cross platform functionality.
</p><p>
The acid 3 test is good, but so last year.  Here is what would be cool.  A mechanism that would allow the browser to use firefox plugins.  Opera does not seem to have the wealth of plugins that firefox does, and from what I can tell, plugins is why people use firefox.  Instead of wasting effort, why not make Opera so it can use the Firefox model?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As cool as an integrated web server sounds , this really looks likes the bloat that made the first round of web wars really suck .
It is innovative , and will gain Opera marketshare , but what is the overall picture here ?
I have said this many times .
Opera is a probably the coolest web browser .
I believe the only reason they do not have more market share right now is because when there was a chance to become dominant on the non-MS platforms , they focused MS Platform and competing directly with MS , instead of filling a hole that existed at the time in the non-MS platforms .
Now it seems that they are following MS lead by providing proprietary bloat instead cross platform functionality .
The acid 3 test is good , but so last year .
Here is what would be cool .
A mechanism that would allow the browser to use firefox plugins .
Opera does not seem to have the wealth of plugins that firefox does , and from what I can tell , plugins is why people use firefox .
Instead of wasting effort , why not make Opera so it can use the Firefox model ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As cool as an integrated web server sounds, this really looks likes the bloat that made the first round of web wars really suck.
It is innovative, and will gain Opera marketshare, but what is the overall picture here?
I have said this many times.
Opera is a probably the coolest web browser.
I believe the only reason they do not have more market share right now is because when there was a chance to become dominant on the non-MS platforms, they focused MS Platform and competing directly with MS, instead of filling a hole that existed at the time in the non-MS platforms.
Now it seems that they are following MS lead by providing proprietary bloat instead cross platform functionality.
The acid 3 test is good, but so last year.
Here is what would be cool.
A mechanism that would allow the browser to use firefox plugins.
Opera does not seem to have the wealth of plugins that firefox does, and from what I can tell, plugins is why people use firefox.
Instead of wasting effort, why not make Opera so it can use the Firefox model?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348741</id>
	<title>Re:Alpha!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245172440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe Opera shouldn't boast about how they're going to "reinvent the web" with alpha software, then.</p><p>(I'm referring to http://regmedia.co.uk/2009/06/12/opera\_freedom.jpg )</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe Opera should n't boast about how they 're going to " reinvent the web " with alpha software , then .
( I 'm referring to http : //regmedia.co.uk/2009/06/12/opera \ _freedom.jpg )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe Opera shouldn't boast about how they're going to "reinvent the web" with alpha software, then.
(I'm referring to http://regmedia.co.uk/2009/06/12/opera\_freedom.jpg )</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347017</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347225</id>
	<title>Auto-updates?</title>
	<author>ThePhilips</author>
	<datestamp>1245165300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> What about auto-updates?

</p><p> This is something what prevents me from even considering Opera as main web-browser.

</p><p> IE (in a way) does it. Chrome does it. FireFox does it. Opera - doesn't.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about auto-updates ?
This is something what prevents me from even considering Opera as main web-browser .
IE ( in a way ) does it .
Chrome does it .
FireFox does it .
Opera - does n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> What about auto-updates?
This is something what prevents me from even considering Opera as main web-browser.
IE (in a way) does it.
Chrome does it.
FireFox does it.
Opera - doesn't.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347165</id>
	<title>Uptime</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245164880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ugh, so now geeks uptimes will be rivalled by their mums trying to host their latest ramblings 24x7 through Opera.
<br> <br>
In a world where we are trying to lower power consumption I somehow get the feeling this won't help.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ugh , so now geeks uptimes will be rivalled by their mums trying to host their latest ramblings 24x7 through Opera .
In a world where we are trying to lower power consumption I somehow get the feeling this wo n't help .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ugh, so now geeks uptimes will be rivalled by their mums trying to host their latest ramblings 24x7 through Opera.
In a world where we are trying to lower power consumption I somehow get the feeling this won't help.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347455</id>
	<title>Re:Auto-updates?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245166740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, Opera has semi-auto-updates, which are not so bad either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , Opera has semi-auto-updates , which are not so bad either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, Opera has semi-auto-updates, which are not so bad either.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347225</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28357251</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>mrbugjacobs</author>
	<datestamp>1245169140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I dont know about the other six, but I sure am<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I dont know about the other six , but I sure am : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dont know about the other six, but I sure am :-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346991</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28349307</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>rs79</author>
	<datestamp>1245174240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"<i>I'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled."</i></p><p>Funny about that. I'm one of them and have used nothing but Opera since version 6 which came out about 7 years ago.</p><p>Did you know slashdot looks like crap in Opera? Given that Opera is the most HTML compliant browser out there what does that tell you?</p><p>I mentioned this to "management" and he said "Most of our poeple use IE so it doesn't matter".</p><p>So, carry on degrading the web and open standards while bleating the opposite.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I 'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled .
" Funny about that .
I 'm one of them and have used nothing but Opera since version 6 which came out about 7 years ago.Did you know slashdot looks like crap in Opera ?
Given that Opera is the most HTML compliant browser out there what does that tell you ? I mentioned this to " management " and he said " Most of our poeple use IE so it does n't matter " .So , carry on degrading the web and open standards while bleating the opposite .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled.
"Funny about that.
I'm one of them and have used nothing but Opera since version 6 which came out about 7 years ago.Did you know slashdot looks like crap in Opera?
Given that Opera is the most HTML compliant browser out there what does that tell you?I mentioned this to "management" and he said "Most of our poeple use IE so it doesn't matter".So, carry on degrading the web and open standards while bleating the opposite.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346991</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348059</id>
	<title>Re:Security</title>
	<author>damburger</author>
	<datestamp>1245169620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't you understand, that is all part of the plan. Combined with the possibility of European copies of Windows shipping with Opera as a legal requirement, they have implemented one of the most ballsy pieces of social engineering I have ever come across. Their entire browser business was simply a long winded ploy to construct the worlds greatest botnet.</p><p>On a serious note though; I think any problems will be outweighed by the utility gained with this experiment. Even though I'm not an Opera user, I find it quite exciting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't you understand , that is all part of the plan .
Combined with the possibility of European copies of Windows shipping with Opera as a legal requirement , they have implemented one of the most ballsy pieces of social engineering I have ever come across .
Their entire browser business was simply a long winded ploy to construct the worlds greatest botnet.On a serious note though ; I think any problems will be outweighed by the utility gained with this experiment .
Even though I 'm not an Opera user , I find it quite exciting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't you understand, that is all part of the plan.
Combined with the possibility of European copies of Windows shipping with Opera as a legal requirement, they have implemented one of the most ballsy pieces of social engineering I have ever come across.
Their entire browser business was simply a long winded ploy to construct the worlds greatest botnet.On a serious note though; I think any problems will be outweighed by the utility gained with this experiment.
Even though I'm not an Opera user, I find it quite exciting.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347119</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28351361</id>
	<title>Re:WTF?</title>
	<author>jp10558</author>
	<datestamp>1245181200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why is this bad? I mean, I basically ignore facebook and myspace already... Just a few 100 million more websites out of the billions I already don't look at... I thought the web already got over the elitism of the "eternal september" mentality...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is this bad ?
I mean , I basically ignore facebook and myspace already... Just a few 100 million more websites out of the billions I already do n't look at... I thought the web already got over the elitism of the " eternal september " mentality.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is this bad?
I mean, I basically ignore facebook and myspace already... Just a few 100 million more websites out of the billions I already don't look at... I thought the web already got over the elitism of the "eternal september" mentality...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347659</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348035</id>
	<title>Re:Acid 3 test</title>
	<author>gzipped\_tar</author>
	<datestamp>1245169500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's the penis size of web browsers. (--I'm IE. --And I'm Opera. --I'm sweet but- --but *I* got the bigger gun!!!!1!!)</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the penis size of web browsers .
( --I 'm IE .
--And I 'm Opera .
--I 'm sweet but- --but * I * got the bigger gun ! ! ! ! 1 ! !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the penis size of web browsers.
(--I'm IE.
--And I'm Opera.
--I'm sweet but- --but *I* got the bigger gun!!!!1!!
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346995</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28350475</id>
	<title>Re:Security</title>
	<author>amicusNYCL</author>
	<datestamp>1245177960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If there is a web server running on an un-patched (or not patched up to date, rather) and improperly firewalled it could be compromised in a small amount of time.</p></div><p>[citation needed]</p><p>I've got IIS running on my Win XP SP3 box with a grand total of 9 security updates installed, and it's been running there for years waiting for me to get home and develop PHP.  I guess "small amount of time" is relative, especially concerning galactic and universal periods of time, but how long exactly do you think it would take to compromise my server if it's more than a few years?  I have a NAT router, but no software firewall or virus scanner either.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If there is a web server running on an un-patched ( or not patched up to date , rather ) and improperly firewalled it could be compromised in a small amount of time .
[ citation needed ] I 've got IIS running on my Win XP SP3 box with a grand total of 9 security updates installed , and it 's been running there for years waiting for me to get home and develop PHP .
I guess " small amount of time " is relative , especially concerning galactic and universal periods of time , but how long exactly do you think it would take to compromise my server if it 's more than a few years ?
I have a NAT router , but no software firewall or virus scanner either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there is a web server running on an un-patched (or not patched up to date, rather) and improperly firewalled it could be compromised in a small amount of time.
[citation needed]I've got IIS running on my Win XP SP3 box with a grand total of 9 security updates installed, and it's been running there for years waiting for me to get home and develop PHP.
I guess "small amount of time" is relative, especially concerning galactic and universal periods of time, but how long exactly do you think it would take to compromise my server if it's more than a few years?
I have a NAT router, but no software firewall or virus scanner either.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347119</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347109</id>
	<title>So very very stupid</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245164580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A file server should clearly not be browser functionality. Browsers already have a hard time protecting users and their data from malicious web sites. Building a firewall-piercing file server into a browser, a program which typically has full network and file system access, is going to cause many incidents of accidental file sharing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A file server should clearly not be browser functionality .
Browsers already have a hard time protecting users and their data from malicious web sites .
Building a firewall-piercing file server into a browser , a program which typically has full network and file system access , is going to cause many incidents of accidental file sharing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A file server should clearly not be browser functionality.
Browsers already have a hard time protecting users and their data from malicious web sites.
Building a firewall-piercing file server into a browser, a program which typically has full network and file system access, is going to cause many incidents of accidental file sharing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28357681</id>
	<title>Re:I wrote this 9 years ago!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245173880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The "Fishbowl" browser had an integrated web server.</p><p> <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20010502014727/chronofish.com/FishBowl/" title="archive.org" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/20010502014727/chronofish.com/FishBowl/</a> [archive.org] </p><p>-CF</p></div><p>I guess it would have been a better idea to imagine the CSS stylesheets then<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The " Fishbowl " browser had an integrated web server .
http : //web.archive.org/web/20010502014727/chronofish.com/FishBowl/ [ archive.org ] -CFI guess it would have been a better idea to imagine the CSS stylesheets then .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The "Fishbowl" browser had an integrated web server.
http://web.archive.org/web/20010502014727/chronofish.com/FishBowl/ [archive.org] -CFI guess it would have been a better idea to imagine the CSS stylesheets then ...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348187</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28355763</id>
	<title>Re:More bloat</title>
	<author>rs79</author>
	<datestamp>1245157980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> <b>"Like being able to make the fonts smaller or larger on pages? (They haven't had this, they "zoom" into the page, which is rubbish)"</b></i> </p><p>Have you actually used it much? If somebody sends you a 4000 x 3000 image, "zoom" to 20\% is very useful. Any browser that can't do this is broken.</p><p>Moreso, any 320P animation, like, say this real time feed of a beach in Kauai:</p><p><a href="http://66.91.152.38/-wvhttp-01-/GetOneShot?image\_size=320x240&amp;REQUEST\_ID=1229794393811" title="66.91.152.38">http://66.91.152.38/-wvhttp-01-/GetOneShot?image\_size=320x240&amp;REQUEST\_ID=1229794393811</a> [66.91.152.38]</p><p>Looks great on a TV when zoomed 100\% and becomes full screen.</p><p>Just because you haven't found a use for something doesn't mean it's not worth having.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Like being able to make the fonts smaller or larger on pages ?
( They have n't had this , they " zoom " into the page , which is rubbish ) " Have you actually used it much ?
If somebody sends you a 4000 x 3000 image , " zoom " to 20 \ % is very useful .
Any browser that ca n't do this is broken.Moreso , any 320P animation , like , say this real time feed of a beach in Kauai : http : //66.91.152.38/-wvhttp-01-/GetOneShot ? image \ _size = 320x240&amp;REQUEST \ _ID = 1229794393811 [ 66.91.152.38 ] Looks great on a TV when zoomed 100 \ % and becomes full screen.Just because you have n't found a use for something does n't mean it 's not worth having .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "Like being able to make the fonts smaller or larger on pages?
(They haven't had this, they "zoom" into the page, which is rubbish)" Have you actually used it much?
If somebody sends you a 4000 x 3000 image, "zoom" to 20\% is very useful.
Any browser that can't do this is broken.Moreso, any 320P animation, like, say this real time feed of a beach in Kauai:http://66.91.152.38/-wvhttp-01-/GetOneShot?image\_size=320x240&amp;REQUEST\_ID=1229794393811 [66.91.152.38]Looks great on a TV when zoomed 100\% and becomes full screen.Just because you haven't found a use for something doesn't mean it's not worth having.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347781</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348101</id>
	<title>Info on Security would be nice</title>
	<author>Danathar</author>
	<datestamp>1245169920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not saying it's not posted somewhere, but I'd REALLY like to know the security behind Unite before touching it with a ten foot pole</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not saying it 's not posted somewhere , but I 'd REALLY like to know the security behind Unite before touching it with a ten foot pole</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not saying it's not posted somewhere, but I'd REALLY like to know the security behind Unite before touching it with a ten foot pole</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347347</id>
	<title>Kneejerk reaction like normal.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245166020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You should reread and look at what is actually going on.</p><p>Why will this not lead to a hackers wet dream?  Static HTML, no scripting language so nothing like php vulnerabilities or access to anything except what the browser allows you to.  The file shares are running from a folder that you select to share.  This makes a VERY nice way to share big files with your friends.  Access is not publicly advertised, you have to invite somebody to have access.  If they do give some dynamic features it will be in the form of widgets (which themselves are sandboxed) and gives them a lot of control over what those widgets are and aren't allowed to do.</p><p>A number of these features seem akin to devices such as slingbox which let you pick up your home tv from anywhere and gives you access to your material anywhere you go.</p><p>Opera already has chat functionality so hosting its own IRC or whatever isn't a big jump.</p><p>I find it funny the google talks about wave and everybody is all gaga over it but opera is bring something similar that is not hosted and its horrible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You should reread and look at what is actually going on.Why will this not lead to a hackers wet dream ?
Static HTML , no scripting language so nothing like php vulnerabilities or access to anything except what the browser allows you to .
The file shares are running from a folder that you select to share .
This makes a VERY nice way to share big files with your friends .
Access is not publicly advertised , you have to invite somebody to have access .
If they do give some dynamic features it will be in the form of widgets ( which themselves are sandboxed ) and gives them a lot of control over what those widgets are and are n't allowed to do.A number of these features seem akin to devices such as slingbox which let you pick up your home tv from anywhere and gives you access to your material anywhere you go.Opera already has chat functionality so hosting its own IRC or whatever is n't a big jump.I find it funny the google talks about wave and everybody is all gaga over it but opera is bring something similar that is not hosted and its horrible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should reread and look at what is actually going on.Why will this not lead to a hackers wet dream?
Static HTML, no scripting language so nothing like php vulnerabilities or access to anything except what the browser allows you to.
The file shares are running from a folder that you select to share.
This makes a VERY nice way to share big files with your friends.
Access is not publicly advertised, you have to invite somebody to have access.
If they do give some dynamic features it will be in the form of widgets (which themselves are sandboxed) and gives them a lot of control over what those widgets are and aren't allowed to do.A number of these features seem akin to devices such as slingbox which let you pick up your home tv from anywhere and gives you access to your material anywhere you go.Opera already has chat functionality so hosting its own IRC or whatever isn't a big jump.I find it funny the google talks about wave and everybody is all gaga over it but opera is bring something similar that is not hosted and its horrible.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347593</id>
	<title>Re:Alpha!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245167340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And for whatever reasons Opera have made their decision on, the 'ALPHA' doesn't load my Speedial or History either... why ever not ?<br>And why did it load my Firefox bookmarks instead of my Opera 9 bookmarks ? Sure, it's got a manual option to load them in, but why did it miss them ?<br>Seems a little hit-and-miss for an alpha...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And for whatever reasons Opera have made their decision on , the 'ALPHA ' does n't load my Speedial or History either... why ever not ? And why did it load my Firefox bookmarks instead of my Opera 9 bookmarks ?
Sure , it 's got a manual option to load them in , but why did it miss them ? Seems a little hit-and-miss for an alpha.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And for whatever reasons Opera have made their decision on, the 'ALPHA' doesn't load my Speedial or History either... why ever not ?And why did it load my Firefox bookmarks instead of my Opera 9 bookmarks ?
Sure, it's got a manual option to load them in, but why did it miss them ?Seems a little hit-and-miss for an alpha...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347017</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348287</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245170700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Use it or the EU will sue your ass for not providing yourself genuine choice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Use it or the EU will sue your ass for not providing yourself genuine choice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use it or the EU will sue your ass for not providing yourself genuine choice.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346991</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347547</id>
	<title>Re:Acid 3 test</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1245167100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Acid 3 is completely irrelevant to users, it's important for web designers.  Each Acid test demonstrates, in an easy-to-test way, a certain subset of web standards.  When all of the major browsers pass them, you can safely use that subset of the standards and be sure that your users will see the page you want them to see.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Acid 3 is completely irrelevant to users , it 's important for web designers .
Each Acid test demonstrates , in an easy-to-test way , a certain subset of web standards .
When all of the major browsers pass them , you can safely use that subset of the standards and be sure that your users will see the page you want them to see .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Acid 3 is completely irrelevant to users, it's important for web designers.
Each Acid test demonstrates, in an easy-to-test way, a certain subset of web standards.
When all of the major browsers pass them, you can safely use that subset of the standards and be sure that your users will see the page you want them to see.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346995</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346991</id>
	<title>Excellent!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245163920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28359681</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245241200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Opera 10 Beta was only released earlier this month, so how have you been using it for several months?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Opera 10 Beta was only released earlier this month , so how have you been using it for several months ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Opera 10 Beta was only released earlier this month, so how have you been using it for several months?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348797</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28350039</id>
	<title>Re:bloat</title>
	<author>rs79</author>
	<datestamp>1245176580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> <b>"The acid 3 test is good, but so last year. Here is what would be cool. A mechanism that would allow the browser to use firefox plugins. Opera does not seem to have the wealth of plugins that firefox does, and from what I can tell, plugins is why people use firefox. Instead of wasting effort, why not make Opera so it can use the Firefox model?"</b></i> </p><p>True 'dat.</p><p>Every now and then I try Firefox. Every time it seems, by comparison to Opera, a klunky, slow, featurelss POS. I can never understand why most of my my friends, who seem pretty smart otherwise, use it. In a word: plugins.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The acid 3 test is good , but so last year .
Here is what would be cool .
A mechanism that would allow the browser to use firefox plugins .
Opera does not seem to have the wealth of plugins that firefox does , and from what I can tell , plugins is why people use firefox .
Instead of wasting effort , why not make Opera so it can use the Firefox model ?
" True 'dat.Every now and then I try Firefox .
Every time it seems , by comparison to Opera , a klunky , slow , featurelss POS .
I can never understand why most of my my friends , who seem pretty smart otherwise , use it .
In a word : plugins .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "The acid 3 test is good, but so last year.
Here is what would be cool.
A mechanism that would allow the browser to use firefox plugins.
Opera does not seem to have the wealth of plugins that firefox does, and from what I can tell, plugins is why people use firefox.
Instead of wasting effort, why not make Opera so it can use the Firefox model?
" True 'dat.Every now and then I try Firefox.
Every time it seems, by comparison to Opera, a klunky, slow, featurelss POS.
I can never understand why most of my my friends, who seem pretty smart otherwise, use it.
In a word: plugins.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347211</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346981</id>
	<title>What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245163800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No kitchen sink?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No kitchen sink ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No kitchen sink?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28349501</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245174900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The biggest problem no one seem to be mentioning is Opera is putting a web server on everyone's PC. Their Web server. They are one of the biggest companies pushing the EU to force Microsoft to install other browsers as part of the operating system. So if your computer comes with Opera install it comes with a Web server installed. Have we learned nothing from Windows 2000 which had IIS installed by default on millions of desktops? Have we learned nothing about hackers love to just scan port 80 looking for holes and can you imagine them just brute forcing their way in.</p><p>Yeah this is a good idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The biggest problem no one seem to be mentioning is Opera is putting a web server on everyone 's PC .
Their Web server .
They are one of the biggest companies pushing the EU to force Microsoft to install other browsers as part of the operating system .
So if your computer comes with Opera install it comes with a Web server installed .
Have we learned nothing from Windows 2000 which had IIS installed by default on millions of desktops ?
Have we learned nothing about hackers love to just scan port 80 looking for holes and can you imagine them just brute forcing their way in.Yeah this is a good idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The biggest problem no one seem to be mentioning is Opera is putting a web server on everyone's PC.
Their Web server.
They are one of the biggest companies pushing the EU to force Microsoft to install other browsers as part of the operating system.
So if your computer comes with Opera install it comes with a Web server installed.
Have we learned nothing from Windows 2000 which had IIS installed by default on millions of desktops?
Have we learned nothing about hackers love to just scan port 80 looking for holes and can you imagine them just brute forcing their way in.Yeah this is a good idea.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347613</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347223</id>
	<title>Re:Alpha!</title>
	<author>xtracto</author>
	<datestamp>1245165240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't Worry, since KDE, KDevelop, etc... slashdotters have get used to the idea that if it is a ".0" release, then it is crappy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't Worry , since KDE , KDevelop , etc... slashdotters have get used to the idea that if it is a " .0 " release , then it is crappy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't Worry, since KDE, KDevelop, etc... slashdotters have get used to the idea that if it is a ".0" release, then it is crappy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347017</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347453</id>
	<title>This is not the final 10.0 yet</title>
	<author>szotsaki</author>
	<datestamp>1245166740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The latest stable release of Opera is <a href="http://www.opera.com/browser/" title="opera.com" rel="nofollow">9.6</a> [opera.com].
<br> <br>
This is an Opera Labs release with a new (and btw. great) functionality. That's why it is listed on the <a href="http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/" title="opera.com" rel="nofollow">Desktopteam Blog</a> [opera.com].
<br> <br>
Its version number also says it's 10.00 Beta.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The latest stable release of Opera is 9.6 [ opera.com ] .
This is an Opera Labs release with a new ( and btw .
great ) functionality .
That 's why it is listed on the Desktopteam Blog [ opera.com ] .
Its version number also says it 's 10.00 Beta .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The latest stable release of Opera is 9.6 [opera.com].
This is an Opera Labs release with a new (and btw.
great) functionality.
That's why it is listed on the Desktopteam Blog [opera.com].
Its version number also says it's 10.00 Beta.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28355199</id>
	<title>I win at teh internetz ...</title>
	<author>pbhj</author>
	<datestamp>1245154920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ha, I posted about this 4 days ago on my blog, <a href="http://digg.com/tech\_news/Opera\_is\_about\_to\_change\_the\_world" title="digg.com">http://digg.com/tech\_news/Opera\_is\_about\_to\_change\_the\_world</a> [digg.com]</p><p>Some poor schmuck said "Huh. This must be the most clueless of the clueless speculations so far." and I was pretty close IM(NS)HO.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ha , I posted about this 4 days ago on my blog , http : //digg.com/tech \ _news/Opera \ _is \ _about \ _to \ _change \ _the \ _world [ digg.com ] Some poor schmuck said " Huh .
This must be the most clueless of the clueless speculations so far .
" and I was pretty close IM ( NS ) HO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ha, I posted about this 4 days ago on my blog, http://digg.com/tech\_news/Opera\_is\_about\_to\_change\_the\_world [digg.com]Some poor schmuck said "Huh.
This must be the most clueless of the clueless speculations so far.
" and I was pretty close IM(NS)HO.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347919</id>
	<title>Re:bloat</title>
	<author>jo42</author>
	<datestamp>1245169020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This reminds me of Nero. Once a nice, light-weight CD burn software product, it is now so full of other cr*p that you have to spend 10 minutes going through the install menu pruning almost everything off.</p><p>Thumbs down Opera. Those that needed it, already installed IIS or Apache on their machines. Those that wanted to share sh*te already installed Limewire or some other evil P2P product.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This reminds me of Nero .
Once a nice , light-weight CD burn software product , it is now so full of other cr * p that you have to spend 10 minutes going through the install menu pruning almost everything off.Thumbs down Opera .
Those that needed it , already installed IIS or Apache on their machines .
Those that wanted to share sh * te already installed Limewire or some other evil P2P product .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This reminds me of Nero.
Once a nice, light-weight CD burn software product, it is now so full of other cr*p that you have to spend 10 minutes going through the install menu pruning almost everything off.Thumbs down Opera.
Those that needed it, already installed IIS or Apache on their machines.
Those that wanted to share sh*te already installed Limewire or some other evil P2P product.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347211</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347303</id>
	<title>Google Wave, anyone?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245165840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Despite the obvious differences the whole thing somehow reminded me of Google Wave. It seems when the time of an idea comes (distributed communication service, every user can run a server easily, something like that) then different teams come up with similar solutions independently without knowing about each other's work.</p><p>The apparent drawbacks of Opera Unite are bandwidth problems when running locally (e.g. ADSL upload speed) and the services being dependent on your computer being turned on.</p><p>Google Wave seems more promising in the long run.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Despite the obvious differences the whole thing somehow reminded me of Google Wave .
It seems when the time of an idea comes ( distributed communication service , every user can run a server easily , something like that ) then different teams come up with similar solutions independently without knowing about each other 's work.The apparent drawbacks of Opera Unite are bandwidth problems when running locally ( e.g .
ADSL upload speed ) and the services being dependent on your computer being turned on.Google Wave seems more promising in the long run .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Despite the obvious differences the whole thing somehow reminded me of Google Wave.
It seems when the time of an idea comes (distributed communication service, every user can run a server easily, something like that) then different teams come up with similar solutions independently without knowing about each other's work.The apparent drawbacks of Opera Unite are bandwidth problems when running locally (e.g.
ADSL upload speed) and the services being dependent on your computer being turned on.Google Wave seems more promising in the long run.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28355859</id>
	<title>Re:almost seems contrary to cloud computing</title>
	<author>rs79</author>
	<datestamp>1245158640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> <b>"The introduction of in-built publishing mechanisms (like the web server) seems almost contrary to the concept of cloud computing - in a good way. From what I understand, in a cloud computing world all applications and content are hosted "in the cloud". This of-course brings a lot of ownership (who owns my content?), privacy (who can access my content?), and history (what happens when I want to remove my content?) issues. I suppose if we were to host all our personal info on our own web-browser, we would have full control of every aspect of what and how our content is disseminated. Now, the only problem is the upload bandwidth.</b></i> "</p><p>Cloud computing means the server owners are in charge. Desktop webservers mean the user is in charge. The paradigm is changing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The introduction of in-built publishing mechanisms ( like the web server ) seems almost contrary to the concept of cloud computing - in a good way .
From what I understand , in a cloud computing world all applications and content are hosted " in the cloud " .
This of-course brings a lot of ownership ( who owns my content ?
) , privacy ( who can access my content ?
) , and history ( what happens when I want to remove my content ?
) issues .
I suppose if we were to host all our personal info on our own web-browser , we would have full control of every aspect of what and how our content is disseminated .
Now , the only problem is the upload bandwidth .
" Cloud computing means the server owners are in charge .
Desktop webservers mean the user is in charge .
The paradigm is changing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "The introduction of in-built publishing mechanisms (like the web server) seems almost contrary to the concept of cloud computing - in a good way.
From what I understand, in a cloud computing world all applications and content are hosted "in the cloud".
This of-course brings a lot of ownership (who owns my content?
), privacy (who can access my content?
), and history (what happens when I want to remove my content?
) issues.
I suppose if we were to host all our personal info on our own web-browser, we would have full control of every aspect of what and how our content is disseminated.
Now, the only problem is the upload bandwidth.
"Cloud computing means the server owners are in charge.
Desktop webservers mean the user is in charge.
The paradigm is changing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347813</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347041</id>
	<title>Re:Acid 3 test</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245164160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>because when the IE starts supporting the same standards, the web will get nicer looking/easyer to web design/less cross browser error prone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>because when the IE starts supporting the same standards , the web will get nicer looking/easyer to web design/less cross browser error prone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>because when the IE starts supporting the same standards, the web will get nicer looking/easyer to web design/less cross browser error prone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346995</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348689</id>
	<title>Re:Acid 3 test</title>
	<author>Kamokazi</author>
	<datestamp>1245172260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Where does it say Joe-sixpack is expected to care about an Acid3 score?  The only people who are expected to care about an Acid3 score is those who know what it is.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where does it say Joe-sixpack is expected to care about an Acid3 score ?
The only people who are expected to care about an Acid3 score is those who know what it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where does it say Joe-sixpack is expected to care about an Acid3 score?
The only people who are expected to care about an Acid3 score is those who know what it is.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346995</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347103</id>
	<title>Gaping security wound</title>
	<author>mrraven</author>
	<datestamp>1245164520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nuff said,</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nuff said,</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nuff said,</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347001</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347667</id>
	<title>Re:bloat</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245167700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Opera does not seem to have the wealth of plugins that firefox does</p></div><p>Many of those plugins were created to replicate functionality that Opera supplies out of the box.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Opera does not seem to have the wealth of plugins that firefox doesMany of those plugins were created to replicate functionality that Opera supplies out of the box .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Opera does not seem to have the wealth of plugins that firefox doesMany of those plugins were created to replicate functionality that Opera supplies out of the box.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347211</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347767</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>Hal\_Porter</author>
	<datestamp>1245168240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled.</p></div><p>It's lonely being part of an elite.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled.It 's lonely being part of an elite .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled.It's lonely being part of an elite.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346991</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28376703</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>hairyfeet</author>
	<datestamp>1245350640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you want a fast and non bloated Firefox, get Kmeleon. If you are on Windows you have the choice of <a href="http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/" title="sourceforge.net">Kmeleon proper</a> [sourceforge.net] or <a href="http://kmeleon.blogspot.com/" title="blogspot.com">Kmeleon CCF ME</a> [blogspot.com] with built in ABP, and if you are Linux <a href="http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/forum/read.php?1,43955" title="sourceforge.net">here</a> [sourceforge.net] is a tutorial on how to get Kmeleon going under Wine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want a fast and non bloated Firefox , get Kmeleon .
If you are on Windows you have the choice of Kmeleon proper [ sourceforge.net ] or Kmeleon CCF ME [ blogspot.com ] with built in ABP , and if you are Linux here [ sourceforge.net ] is a tutorial on how to get Kmeleon going under Wine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want a fast and non bloated Firefox, get Kmeleon.
If you are on Windows you have the choice of Kmeleon proper [sourceforge.net] or Kmeleon CCF ME [blogspot.com] with built in ABP, and if you are Linux here [sourceforge.net] is a tutorial on how to get Kmeleon going under Wine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348249</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347967</id>
	<title>Better flash than AMD64 firefox</title>
	<author>petes\_PoV</author>
	<datestamp>1245169260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Running Ubuntu on a 64 bit box. This version of OPera seems more reliable on flash / youtube videos than 64bit FF 3. FF runs a few vids, then stops - with zombied npviewer processes that prevent any more vids until the box is rebooted.
<p>
My unscientific tests of Opera 10 (i.e. about an hour, this afternoon) hasn't had any problems with vids, so far - even though FF is firmly screwed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Running Ubuntu on a 64 bit box .
This version of OPera seems more reliable on flash / youtube videos than 64bit FF 3 .
FF runs a few vids , then stops - with zombied npviewer processes that prevent any more vids until the box is rebooted .
My unscientific tests of Opera 10 ( i.e .
about an hour , this afternoon ) has n't had any problems with vids , so far - even though FF is firmly screwed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Running Ubuntu on a 64 bit box.
This version of OPera seems more reliable on flash / youtube videos than 64bit FF 3.
FF runs a few vids, then stops - with zombied npviewer processes that prevent any more vids until the box is rebooted.
My unscientific tests of Opera 10 (i.e.
about an hour, this afternoon) hasn't had any problems with vids, so far - even though FF is firmly screwed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28349905</id>
	<title>a browser ?</title>
	<author>petermp</author>
	<datestamp>1245176160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Webserver, extras etc ?  I wish it had a browser....:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Webserver , extras etc ?
I wish it had a browser.... : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Webserver, extras etc ?
I wish it had a browser....:-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347443</id>
	<title>Re:bloat</title>
	<author>Hanzie</author>
	<datestamp>1245166680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suspect the programming would be quite tedious, and then Opera would have to slavishly follow firefox wherever it went, or would have to have a kludgy slow emulator.  Since one of Opera's main features is it's speed, this would really make it more trouble than it's worth.<p>

Meanwhile, it is completely reasonable to run Opera and Firefox simultaneously.  I do it all the time, and for exactly the reasons you are mentioning above.  In fact, I'm doing it right now on an XP system.</p><p>

There are some websites that I want firefox for, and there are others that opera works better for.  With the advent of tabbed browsing and the ability to open a folder full of links on each, bookmark sharing is much less a concern.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect the programming would be quite tedious , and then Opera would have to slavishly follow firefox wherever it went , or would have to have a kludgy slow emulator .
Since one of Opera 's main features is it 's speed , this would really make it more trouble than it 's worth .
Meanwhile , it is completely reasonable to run Opera and Firefox simultaneously .
I do it all the time , and for exactly the reasons you are mentioning above .
In fact , I 'm doing it right now on an XP system .
There are some websites that I want firefox for , and there are others that opera works better for .
With the advent of tabbed browsing and the ability to open a folder full of links on each , bookmark sharing is much less a concern .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect the programming would be quite tedious, and then Opera would have to slavishly follow firefox wherever it went, or would have to have a kludgy slow emulator.
Since one of Opera's main features is it's speed, this would really make it more trouble than it's worth.
Meanwhile, it is completely reasonable to run Opera and Firefox simultaneously.
I do it all the time, and for exactly the reasons you are mentioning above.
In fact, I'm doing it right now on an XP system.
There are some websites that I want firefox for, and there are others that opera works better for.
With the advent of tabbed browsing and the ability to open a folder full of links on each, bookmark sharing is much less a concern.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347211</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28352903</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>rho</author>
	<datestamp>1245144060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>That said, I've been using Opera 10 beta for several months now, and it seems more stable than Opera 9 was.</p></div></blockquote><p>FWIW I downloaded the Mac version of 10, tried to play with the Unity stuff, and Opera crashed within seconds.

</p><p>That doesn't necessarily mean anything, but it didn't engender a burning desire in me to sink more time into it, that's for sure. I'll try again when 10 isn't so raw.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That said , I 've been using Opera 10 beta for several months now , and it seems more stable than Opera 9 was.FWIW I downloaded the Mac version of 10 , tried to play with the Unity stuff , and Opera crashed within seconds .
That does n't necessarily mean anything , but it did n't engender a burning desire in me to sink more time into it , that 's for sure .
I 'll try again when 10 is n't so raw .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That said, I've been using Opera 10 beta for several months now, and it seems more stable than Opera 9 was.FWIW I downloaded the Mac version of 10, tried to play with the Unity stuff, and Opera crashed within seconds.
That doesn't necessarily mean anything, but it didn't engender a burning desire in me to sink more time into it, that's for sure.
I'll try again when 10 isn't so raw.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348797</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28349265</id>
	<title>Re:Security</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245174120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I totally agree with you.</p><p>Can Somebody Puhlease think of THE CHILDREN and keep censuring everything??</p><p>Freedom is for paedophiles!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I totally agree with you.Can Somebody Puhlease think of THE CHILDREN and keep censuring everything ?
? Freedom is for paedophiles !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I totally agree with you.Can Somebody Puhlease think of THE CHILDREN and keep censuring everything?
?Freedom is for paedophiles!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347119</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347293</id>
	<title>Bloatware and sceruity holes</title>
	<author>classicvw</author>
	<datestamp>1245165780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is the problem with software. They try and try to add more functionality to it, that 90\% of the users do not use. This creates more and more chances for security flaws, and makes the software very bloated.
How many users actually want to run their version of a browser, as a server. Leave those things as add-ons, and the person that wants them can "add" them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the problem with software .
They try and try to add more functionality to it , that 90 \ % of the users do not use .
This creates more and more chances for security flaws , and makes the software very bloated .
How many users actually want to run their version of a browser , as a server .
Leave those things as add-ons , and the person that wants them can " add " them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the problem with software.
They try and try to add more functionality to it, that 90\% of the users do not use.
This creates more and more chances for security flaws, and makes the software very bloated.
How many users actually want to run their version of a browser, as a server.
Leave those things as add-ons, and the person that wants them can "add" them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28353667</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>A Friendly Troll</author>
	<datestamp>1245146820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled.</p></div><p>I know this is an old joke, but stop it. In some countries, Opera has more market share than Firefox, it's well above 30\%.</p><p><a href="http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/2009/03/16/a-look-at-desktop-market-share-cis-edition" title="opera.com">http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/2009/03/16/a-look-at-desktop-market-share-cis-edition</a> [opera.com]</p><p>Alienate Opera users on your website, and you alienate over a third of internet users from the former USSR... In other words, one hundred million people.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled.I know this is an old joke , but stop it .
In some countries , Opera has more market share than Firefox , it 's well above 30 \ % .http : //my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/2009/03/16/a-look-at-desktop-market-share-cis-edition [ opera.com ] Alienate Opera users on your website , and you alienate over a third of internet users from the former USSR... In other words , one hundred million people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled.I know this is an old joke, but stop it.
In some countries, Opera has more market share than Firefox, it's well above 30\%.http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/2009/03/16/a-look-at-desktop-market-share-cis-edition [opera.com]Alienate Opera users on your website, and you alienate over a third of internet users from the former USSR... In other words, one hundred million people.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346991</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28356333</id>
	<title>Re:bloat</title>
	<author>hkmwbz</author>
	<datestamp>1245162000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>when there was a chance to become dominant on the non-MS platforms, they focused MS Platform and competing directly with MS, instead of filling a hole that existed at the time in the non-MS platforms</p></div></blockquote><p>
You mean like on mobile phones where Opera started before anyone else? Oh, and Firefox's success came because it focused on the "MS Platform".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>when there was a chance to become dominant on the non-MS platforms , they focused MS Platform and competing directly with MS , instead of filling a hole that existed at the time in the non-MS platforms You mean like on mobile phones where Opera started before anyone else ?
Oh , and Firefox 's success came because it focused on the " MS Platform " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>when there was a chance to become dominant on the non-MS platforms, they focused MS Platform and competing directly with MS, instead of filling a hole that existed at the time in the non-MS platforms
You mean like on mobile phones where Opera started before anyone else?
Oh, and Firefox's success came because it focused on the "MS Platform".
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347211</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348437</id>
	<title>Re:Acid 3 test</title>
	<author>wall0159</author>
	<datestamp>1245171360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Joe, Slashdot isn't for you. I suggest you try MySpace or Facebook.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Joe , Slashdot is n't for you .
I suggest you try MySpace or Facebook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Joe, Slashdot isn't for you.
I suggest you try MySpace or Facebook.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346995</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347373</id>
	<title>WTF?</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1245166200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ok, in the interests of not being redundant, I'm going to entirely skip the "OMG CAN ANYONE SAY BLOAT" topic.</p><p>A web server?</p><p>A WEB SERVER?</p><p>I will always &ndash; ALWAYS &ndash; believe a web server is <em>dangerous</em> in the hands of an idiot (and yes, the vast majority of computer users are idiots, in terms of computer literacy). I challenge you to convince me otherwise (actually, never mind... it's probably not worth your time).</p><p>At worst, you've opened a massive set of new vulnerabilities &ndash; again, not going to go into redundant levels of detail here, but a general attitude amongst IT is "LimeWire = Virus". Not because it's true, but because so many idiots manage to illustrate it.</p><p>At best,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...there is no best case. I guarantee that there are enough idiots out there that they will find some way to make the worst come true.</p><p>Frankly, if Opera wants to make a web browser that Gramma can use, adding a web server was a poor choice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , in the interests of not being redundant , I 'm going to entirely skip the " OMG CAN ANYONE SAY BLOAT " topic.A web server ? A WEB SERVER ? I will always    ALWAYS    believe a web server is dangerous in the hands of an idiot ( and yes , the vast majority of computer users are idiots , in terms of computer literacy ) .
I challenge you to convince me otherwise ( actually , never mind... it 's probably not worth your time ) .At worst , you 've opened a massive set of new vulnerabilities    again , not going to go into redundant levels of detail here , but a general attitude amongst IT is " LimeWire = Virus " .
Not because it 's true , but because so many idiots manage to illustrate it.At best , ...there is no best case .
I guarantee that there are enough idiots out there that they will find some way to make the worst come true.Frankly , if Opera wants to make a web browser that Gramma can use , adding a web server was a poor choice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, in the interests of not being redundant, I'm going to entirely skip the "OMG CAN ANYONE SAY BLOAT" topic.A web server?A WEB SERVER?I will always – ALWAYS – believe a web server is dangerous in the hands of an idiot (and yes, the vast majority of computer users are idiots, in terms of computer literacy).
I challenge you to convince me otherwise (actually, never mind... it's probably not worth your time).At worst, you've opened a massive set of new vulnerabilities – again, not going to go into redundant levels of detail here, but a general attitude amongst IT is "LimeWire = Virus".
Not because it's true, but because so many idiots manage to illustrate it.At best, ...there is no best case.
I guarantee that there are enough idiots out there that they will find some way to make the worst come true.Frankly, if Opera wants to make a web browser that Gramma can use, adding a web server was a poor choice.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348121</id>
	<title>Re:Google Wave, anyone?</title>
	<author>damburger</author>
	<datestamp>1245169980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I see what you mean about Google Wave. I guess innovations are like buses after all. Too early for me to call which will be more successful; Wave is more of a technological leap but Unite has more potential to empower users.</p><p>If the people who could really use a lego brick server actually start using opera (they will have to hear of it first) then it could make a big difference. Bandwidth problems are possible if it takes off - but frankly its the kind of kick up the arse ISPs need from time to time to remind them to stop adding numbers to the stated bandwidth of the connections they sell and start finding some actual infrastructure. Like BBC IPlayer - ISPs were incensed when the Great British public actually started getting good use out of the pipes they had paid for. The ISPs got over it, after a brief hissy fit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I see what you mean about Google Wave .
I guess innovations are like buses after all .
Too early for me to call which will be more successful ; Wave is more of a technological leap but Unite has more potential to empower users.If the people who could really use a lego brick server actually start using opera ( they will have to hear of it first ) then it could make a big difference .
Bandwidth problems are possible if it takes off - but frankly its the kind of kick up the arse ISPs need from time to time to remind them to stop adding numbers to the stated bandwidth of the connections they sell and start finding some actual infrastructure .
Like BBC IPlayer - ISPs were incensed when the Great British public actually started getting good use out of the pipes they had paid for .
The ISPs got over it , after a brief hissy fit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see what you mean about Google Wave.
I guess innovations are like buses after all.
Too early for me to call which will be more successful; Wave is more of a technological leap but Unite has more potential to empower users.If the people who could really use a lego brick server actually start using opera (they will have to hear of it first) then it could make a big difference.
Bandwidth problems are possible if it takes off - but frankly its the kind of kick up the arse ISPs need from time to time to remind them to stop adding numbers to the stated bandwidth of the connections they sell and start finding some actual infrastructure.
Like BBC IPlayer - ISPs were incensed when the Great British public actually started getting good use out of the pipes they had paid for.
The ISPs got over it, after a brief hissy fit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347303</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28351283</id>
	<title>Re:I wrote this 9 years ago!</title>
	<author>jp10558</author>
	<datestamp>1245180900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did it serve files to other peopler browsing, or just for local cgi programs? It also used IEs rendering (ick).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did it serve files to other peopler browsing , or just for local cgi programs ?
It also used IEs rendering ( ick ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did it serve files to other peopler browsing, or just for local cgi programs?
It also used IEs rendering (ick).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348187</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28351125</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>Toonol</author>
	<datestamp>1245180240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Firefox users should be thrilled as well, because if it shows up in Opera, it will show up in Firefox a year or two later, and be hailed as revolutionary.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Firefox users should be thrilled as well , because if it shows up in Opera , it will show up in Firefox a year or two later , and be hailed as revolutionary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Firefox users should be thrilled as well, because if it shows up in Opera, it will show up in Firefox a year or two later, and be hailed as revolutionary.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347727</id>
	<title>Re:Security</title>
	<author>0x537461746943</author>
	<datestamp>1245168000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is highly recommended to put webservers on dedicated/restricted networks to segment them from your internal LAN.  It is also highly recommended to put a transaction layer between that web server and another server that hosts the important/private data.  This puts one more layer that the hackers would need to get past before your data is compromised.  Unfortunately this is not an easy or consumer friendly practice.

The truth is though that this is just another hole of many that are already opened up on most desktop systems nowadays.  Developers/companies have been pushing apps that automatically open up holes from the internet to your desktop thanks to routers that support UPNP.  Yes a web server is more visible because it is well known to the average user how to access it but there are many applications that most people use that already open up connections directly to your desktop from the internet.  You just have to look at the many peer-to-peer apps, chat applications, voip applications, etc to realize how bad it has become.  Thanks to the wide availability of home routers/wannabefirewalls with UPNP capability,  Developers have an easy way to open up holes in your network from the internet.  Hopefully tech savy people know the risks but I have a feeling the average PC user does not.  Do they really know that a vulnerability in the app could be exploitable from the general internet directly to thier PC?  Probably not.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is highly recommended to put webservers on dedicated/restricted networks to segment them from your internal LAN .
It is also highly recommended to put a transaction layer between that web server and another server that hosts the important/private data .
This puts one more layer that the hackers would need to get past before your data is compromised .
Unfortunately this is not an easy or consumer friendly practice .
The truth is though that this is just another hole of many that are already opened up on most desktop systems nowadays .
Developers/companies have been pushing apps that automatically open up holes from the internet to your desktop thanks to routers that support UPNP .
Yes a web server is more visible because it is well known to the average user how to access it but there are many applications that most people use that already open up connections directly to your desktop from the internet .
You just have to look at the many peer-to-peer apps , chat applications , voip applications , etc to realize how bad it has become .
Thanks to the wide availability of home routers/wannabefirewalls with UPNP capability , Developers have an easy way to open up holes in your network from the internet .
Hopefully tech savy people know the risks but I have a feeling the average PC user does not .
Do they really know that a vulnerability in the app could be exploitable from the general internet directly to thier PC ?
Probably not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is highly recommended to put webservers on dedicated/restricted networks to segment them from your internal LAN.
It is also highly recommended to put a transaction layer between that web server and another server that hosts the important/private data.
This puts one more layer that the hackers would need to get past before your data is compromised.
Unfortunately this is not an easy or consumer friendly practice.
The truth is though that this is just another hole of many that are already opened up on most desktop systems nowadays.
Developers/companies have been pushing apps that automatically open up holes from the internet to your desktop thanks to routers that support UPNP.
Yes a web server is more visible because it is well known to the average user how to access it but there are many applications that most people use that already open up connections directly to your desktop from the internet.
You just have to look at the many peer-to-peer apps, chat applications, voip applications, etc to realize how bad it has become.
Thanks to the wide availability of home routers/wannabefirewalls with UPNP capability,  Developers have an easy way to open up holes in your network from the internet.
Hopefully tech savy people know the risks but I have a feeling the average PC user does not.
Do they really know that a vulnerability in the app could be exploitable from the general internet directly to thier PC?
Probably not.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347887</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245168900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, they've sued to have a kitchen sink supplied by Microsoft to every possible user rather than put the effort into marketing their own sink.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , they 've sued to have a kitchen sink supplied by Microsoft to every possible user rather than put the effort into marketing their own sink .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, they've sued to have a kitchen sink supplied by Microsoft to every possible user rather than put the effort into marketing their own sink.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346981</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348611</id>
	<title>Re:bloat</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1245172020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Opera PPC OS X is just 12 MB, the actual executable is way below it.</p><p>In fact, if you dig deeper, you figure the amazing fact. Core renderer is below 1 MB. Yes, 1 MB of ultra portable pure C is the "Opera". Rest is done via the functionality it already has. E.g. lsof when you use the "bulky" IRC function of Opera, you will see the thing you see as "IRC" is actually a web page along with CSS!</p><p>Same with the "Web server". It must be amazingly tiny, even less than the rendering engine since it is clear that they are heading to mobile with this.</p><p>Opera and Firefox has different development models, concepts and even targets. Ask Firefox developers if they will remove 80\% of code just because they want the exact same binary to run on my horribly outdated, OS dead UIQ3 Sony Ericsson P1i. That is what Opera does.</p><p>With Google, Google Backed Mozilla, MS Backed IE, Apple backed Webkit, I really don't think Opera dreams about "World Domination!". Look at these silly people, they want to boycott Opera because MS backed blogs called for it. Why? EU judicial system investigates MS (did you see IE icon's size on Win 7?) and MS pulled one of "I am taking my toys and going home" tricks again by not including IE in EU Windows. So, it is all Opera's fault now (as they can't mess with Google/Firefox) and they want to boycott Opera (as if they ever used!).</p><p>I mean, as ordinary user, I can see the stupidity but they can't? I bet they do and they never dreamed of being some 20-30\% market share browser because of these facts which aren't really too technical.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Opera PPC OS X is just 12 MB , the actual executable is way below it.In fact , if you dig deeper , you figure the amazing fact .
Core renderer is below 1 MB .
Yes , 1 MB of ultra portable pure C is the " Opera " .
Rest is done via the functionality it already has .
E.g. lsof when you use the " bulky " IRC function of Opera , you will see the thing you see as " IRC " is actually a web page along with CSS ! Same with the " Web server " .
It must be amazingly tiny , even less than the rendering engine since it is clear that they are heading to mobile with this.Opera and Firefox has different development models , concepts and even targets .
Ask Firefox developers if they will remove 80 \ % of code just because they want the exact same binary to run on my horribly outdated , OS dead UIQ3 Sony Ericsson P1i .
That is what Opera does.With Google , Google Backed Mozilla , MS Backed IE , Apple backed Webkit , I really do n't think Opera dreams about " World Domination ! " .
Look at these silly people , they want to boycott Opera because MS backed blogs called for it .
Why ? EU judicial system investigates MS ( did you see IE icon 's size on Win 7 ?
) and MS pulled one of " I am taking my toys and going home " tricks again by not including IE in EU Windows .
So , it is all Opera 's fault now ( as they ca n't mess with Google/Firefox ) and they want to boycott Opera ( as if they ever used !
) .I mean , as ordinary user , I can see the stupidity but they ca n't ?
I bet they do and they never dreamed of being some 20-30 \ % market share browser because of these facts which are n't really too technical .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Opera PPC OS X is just 12 MB, the actual executable is way below it.In fact, if you dig deeper, you figure the amazing fact.
Core renderer is below 1 MB.
Yes, 1 MB of ultra portable pure C is the "Opera".
Rest is done via the functionality it already has.
E.g. lsof when you use the "bulky" IRC function of Opera, you will see the thing you see as "IRC" is actually a web page along with CSS!Same with the "Web server".
It must be amazingly tiny, even less than the rendering engine since it is clear that they are heading to mobile with this.Opera and Firefox has different development models, concepts and even targets.
Ask Firefox developers if they will remove 80\% of code just because they want the exact same binary to run on my horribly outdated, OS dead UIQ3 Sony Ericsson P1i.
That is what Opera does.With Google, Google Backed Mozilla, MS Backed IE, Apple backed Webkit, I really don't think Opera dreams about "World Domination!".
Look at these silly people, they want to boycott Opera because MS backed blogs called for it.
Why? EU judicial system investigates MS (did you see IE icon's size on Win 7?
) and MS pulled one of "I am taking my toys and going home" tricks again by not including IE in EU Windows.
So, it is all Opera's fault now (as they can't mess with Google/Firefox) and they want to boycott Opera (as if they ever used!
).I mean, as ordinary user, I can see the stupidity but they can't?
I bet they do and they never dreamed of being some 20-30\% market share browser because of these facts which aren't really too technical.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347211</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347311</id>
	<title>Re:Acid 3 test</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245165840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's an accessibility thing.</p><p>The score refers to how usable a browser is to someone on acid, so 100/100 means someone on acid can use the browser fully. It came about as a realisation that some of the worlds greatest computer scientists were users of acid, particularly at Berkley and hence there was recognition that we needed to ensure that they too can use the internet.</p><p>No, seriously though that's bullshit, it's actually a standards compliance test. If you've used multiple browsers you may have come across some times that just don't look right, where something is out of place or something - this is ever less common now, but it's generally because a browser doesn't properly support the standards that make up web pages - standards such as HTML, XHTML, CSS etc.</p><p>If a browser has 100/100 on the test it means it can correctly render everything that the test consists of as it's supposed to according to the standards.</p><p>Chances are if your browser doesn't score 100/100 in the acid tests there will be some sites that don't look as they should, although you may never even know as some of the things it covers are non-obvious unless you're aware of the issue beforehand.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's an accessibility thing.The score refers to how usable a browser is to someone on acid , so 100/100 means someone on acid can use the browser fully .
It came about as a realisation that some of the worlds greatest computer scientists were users of acid , particularly at Berkley and hence there was recognition that we needed to ensure that they too can use the internet.No , seriously though that 's bullshit , it 's actually a standards compliance test .
If you 've used multiple browsers you may have come across some times that just do n't look right , where something is out of place or something - this is ever less common now , but it 's generally because a browser does n't properly support the standards that make up web pages - standards such as HTML , XHTML , CSS etc.If a browser has 100/100 on the test it means it can correctly render everything that the test consists of as it 's supposed to according to the standards.Chances are if your browser does n't score 100/100 in the acid tests there will be some sites that do n't look as they should , although you may never even know as some of the things it covers are non-obvious unless you 're aware of the issue beforehand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's an accessibility thing.The score refers to how usable a browser is to someone on acid, so 100/100 means someone on acid can use the browser fully.
It came about as a realisation that some of the worlds greatest computer scientists were users of acid, particularly at Berkley and hence there was recognition that we needed to ensure that they too can use the internet.No, seriously though that's bullshit, it's actually a standards compliance test.
If you've used multiple browsers you may have come across some times that just don't look right, where something is out of place or something - this is ever less common now, but it's generally because a browser doesn't properly support the standards that make up web pages - standards such as HTML, XHTML, CSS etc.If a browser has 100/100 on the test it means it can correctly render everything that the test consists of as it's supposed to according to the standards.Chances are if your browser doesn't score 100/100 in the acid tests there will be some sites that don't look as they should, although you may never even know as some of the things it covers are non-obvious unless you're aware of the issue beforehand.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28349513</id>
	<title>Re:opera - no longer an Enterprise option</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1245174900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>As long as the market Opera was searching for is the Home user, I guess opening up another 10 attack vectors into a users desktop/laptop isn't necessarily a bad thing but this has all but eliminated Opera from ever being a viable enterprise browser candidate.</p></div> </blockquote><p>An optional feature that can presumably be completely disabled or not even installed in an enterprise installation disqualifies it as an enterprise browser candidate...why, exactly?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as the market Opera was searching for is the Home user , I guess opening up another 10 attack vectors into a users desktop/laptop is n't necessarily a bad thing but this has all but eliminated Opera from ever being a viable enterprise browser candidate .
An optional feature that can presumably be completely disabled or not even installed in an enterprise installation disqualifies it as an enterprise browser candidate...why , exactly ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as the market Opera was searching for is the Home user, I guess opening up another 10 attack vectors into a users desktop/laptop isn't necessarily a bad thing but this has all but eliminated Opera from ever being a viable enterprise browser candidate.
An optional feature that can presumably be completely disabled or not even installed in an enterprise installation disqualifies it as an enterprise browser candidate...why, exactly?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347301</id>
	<title>Re:Auto-updates?</title>
	<author>elcid73</author>
	<datestamp>1245165840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>10.0 has auto updates, but as other commenters have pointed out- 10.0 is in beta and seperate from the "Opera Unite" stuff of the article.  You can learn more about auto update and try it out on the <a href="http://www.opera.com/browser/next/" title="opera.com">beta page</a> [opera.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>10.0 has auto updates , but as other commenters have pointed out- 10.0 is in beta and seperate from the " Opera Unite " stuff of the article .
You can learn more about auto update and try it out on the beta page [ opera.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>10.0 has auto updates, but as other commenters have pointed out- 10.0 is in beta and seperate from the "Opera Unite" stuff of the article.
You can learn more about auto update and try it out on the beta page [opera.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347225</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347999</id>
	<title>Personally I find it scary enough</title>
	<author>Big Hairy Ian</author>
	<datestamp>1245169380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>that my printer has a web server built in.  Now my browser is going to have one too????? <br>Just one more thing to patch</htmltext>
<tokenext>that my printer has a web server built in .
Now my browser is going to have one too ? ? ? ? ?
Just one more thing to patch</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that my printer has a web server built in.
Now my browser is going to have one too?????
Just one more thing to patch</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347489</id>
	<title>Re:bloat</title>
	<author>TheP4st</author>
	<datestamp>1245166920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Now it seems that they are following MS lead by providing proprietary bloat instead cross platform functionality.</p></div><p>Huh? I run Opera on Windows, various Linux distros, Mac and Open Solaris, you can also find it in use on Wii, Symbian, FreeBSD, Windows Mobile, Nintendo DS. That's not enough platforms for you?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now it seems that they are following MS lead by providing proprietary bloat instead cross platform functionality.Huh ?
I run Opera on Windows , various Linux distros , Mac and Open Solaris , you can also find it in use on Wii , Symbian , FreeBSD , Windows Mobile , Nintendo DS .
That 's not enough platforms for you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now it seems that they are following MS lead by providing proprietary bloat instead cross platform functionality.Huh?
I run Opera on Windows, various Linux distros, Mac and Open Solaris, you can also find it in use on Wii, Symbian, FreeBSD, Windows Mobile, Nintendo DS.
That's not enough platforms for you?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348341</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245170940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can't I just get a simple web browser that looks good and doesn't come with the latest FOTM Twitter bullshit?</p><p>Why would a want a "Fridge" in my Browser instead of features that help me, you know, browse the internet?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't I just get a simple web browser that looks good and does n't come with the latest FOTM Twitter bullshit ? Why would a want a " Fridge " in my Browser instead of features that help me , you know , browse the internet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't I just get a simple web browser that looks good and doesn't come with the latest FOTM Twitter bullshit?Why would a want a "Fridge" in my Browser instead of features that help me, you know, browse the internet?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346981</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347665</id>
	<title>Re:WTF?</title>
	<author>jjohn</author>
	<datestamp>1245167700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I couldn't agree more.  I understand that Unite is a P2P/Groove retread.   Still, creating a massive new vector for a botnet doesn't strike me as a responsible thing to do for a software maker.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I could n't agree more .
I understand that Unite is a P2P/Groove retread .
Still , creating a massive new vector for a botnet does n't strike me as a responsible thing to do for a software maker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I couldn't agree more.
I understand that Unite is a P2P/Groove retread.
Still, creating a massive new vector for a botnet doesn't strike me as a responsible thing to do for a software maker.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347373</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347965</id>
	<title>Re:opera - no longer an Enterprise option</title>
	<author>LordLimecat</author>
	<datestamp>1245169260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The same way you didnt think your post through--a quick read through the comments (not even the article!) reveals that its NOT integrated into opera, its a widget aka addon.  "I hear you can get virus extensions for firefox, so clearly mozilla is retarded".  What?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The same way you didnt think your post through--a quick read through the comments ( not even the article !
) reveals that its NOT integrated into opera , its a widget aka addon .
" I hear you can get virus extensions for firefox , so clearly mozilla is retarded " .
What ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The same way you didnt think your post through--a quick read through the comments (not even the article!
) reveals that its NOT integrated into opera, its a widget aka addon.
"I hear you can get virus extensions for firefox, so clearly mozilla is retarded".
What?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347539</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347563</id>
	<title>Re:Alpha!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245167220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow an AC that got +5?</p><p>What next? Loving Microsoft Vista?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow an AC that got + 5 ? What next ?
Loving Microsoft Vista ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow an AC that got +5?What next?
Loving Microsoft Vista?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347017</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348249</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245170520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh no! not opera too!</p><p>I for one am disappointed in firefox for massive memory consumption and feature bloat, whatever happend to the idea that you use an application for a specific task? wasn't firefox supposed to be a lean browser at one point? not having all the bloat of mozilla?</p><p>Firefox wouldn't be quite so bad if they used "libexec style" bloat (for example, the config, bookmark and RSS mgr as a separate process) so that you didn't have to load the whole thing into memory just to look at websites.</p><p>I hope opera at least has a separate process for the web server so we don't have to drag it along every time we visit slashdot.</p><p>Heh, and we used to complain about emacs..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh no !
not opera too ! I for one am disappointed in firefox for massive memory consumption and feature bloat , whatever happend to the idea that you use an application for a specific task ?
was n't firefox supposed to be a lean browser at one point ?
not having all the bloat of mozilla ? Firefox would n't be quite so bad if they used " libexec style " bloat ( for example , the config , bookmark and RSS mgr as a separate process ) so that you did n't have to load the whole thing into memory just to look at websites.I hope opera at least has a separate process for the web server so we do n't have to drag it along every time we visit slashdot.Heh , and we used to complain about emacs. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh no!
not opera too!I for one am disappointed in firefox for massive memory consumption and feature bloat, whatever happend to the idea that you use an application for a specific task?
wasn't firefox supposed to be a lean browser at one point?
not having all the bloat of mozilla?Firefox wouldn't be quite so bad if they used "libexec style" bloat (for example, the config, bookmark and RSS mgr as a separate process) so that you didn't have to load the whole thing into memory just to look at websites.I hope opera at least has a separate process for the web server so we don't have to drag it along every time we visit slashdot.Heh, and we used to complain about emacs..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346981</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348481</id>
	<title>Security</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245171540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A web server on every desktop, accessible from everywhere in the world?  What could possibly go wrong?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A web server on every desktop , accessible from everywhere in the world ?
What could possibly go wrong ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A web server on every desktop, accessible from everywhere in the world?
What could possibly go wrong?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28349203</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>rs79</author>
	<datestamp>1245173940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>"No kitchen sink?"</i></p><p>No, that's a widget that you have to download separately.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" No kitchen sink ?
" No , that 's a widget that you have to download separately .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"No kitchen sink?
"No, that's a widget that you have to download separately.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346981</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347119</id>
	<title>Security</title>
	<author>sleekware</author>
	<datestamp>1245164580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't think it's a good idea to run a web server on the average user's PC for security reasons. If there is a web server running on an un-patched (or not patched up to date, rather) and improperly firewalled it could be compromised in a small amount of time. Seeing as many have personal data on their PC as well this makes it worse.

Plus, isn't it common practice to separate web servers from the rest of a network also for security reasons?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think it 's a good idea to run a web server on the average user 's PC for security reasons .
If there is a web server running on an un-patched ( or not patched up to date , rather ) and improperly firewalled it could be compromised in a small amount of time .
Seeing as many have personal data on their PC as well this makes it worse .
Plus , is n't it common practice to separate web servers from the rest of a network also for security reasons ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think it's a good idea to run a web server on the average user's PC for security reasons.
If there is a web server running on an un-patched (or not patched up to date, rather) and improperly firewalled it could be compromised in a small amount of time.
Seeing as many have personal data on their PC as well this makes it worse.
Plus, isn't it common practice to separate web servers from the rest of a network also for security reasons?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347371</id>
	<title>FAIL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245166200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>sorry, but this is not what I call "reinventing the web"</p><p>another username, another password, another website to remember...</p><p>why not use openid?</p><p>this is not the future of the web, this is just another version of another browser just like the others</p><p>#FAIL</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>sorry , but this is not what I call " reinventing the web " another username , another password , another website to remember...why not use openid ? this is not the future of the web , this is just another version of another browser just like the others # FAIL</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sorry, but this is not what I call "reinventing the web"another username, another password, another website to remember...why not use openid?this is not the future of the web, this is just another version of another browser just like the others#FAIL</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347281</id>
	<title>Re:Auto-updates?</title>
	<author>talleyrand</author>
	<datestamp>1245165660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You mean something like
<p>
Help -&gt; Check for updates
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean something like Help - &gt; Check for updates</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean something like

Help -&gt; Check for updates
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347225</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28444711</id>
	<title>No its not a troll you idiot</title>
	<author>Snaller</author>
	<datestamp>1245749520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Like have they added the ablity to make the fonts smaller or larger on the fly? (They haven't had this, they "zoom" into the page, which is rubbish)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Like have they added the ablity to make the fonts smaller or larger on the fly ?
( They have n't had this , they " zoom " into the page , which is rubbish )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like have they added the ablity to make the fonts smaller or larger on the fly?
(They haven't had this, they "zoom" into the page, which is rubbish)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347781</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28356393</id>
	<title>Re:Servers are always on, desktops / laptops are n</title>
	<author>rs79</author>
	<datestamp>1245162420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> <b>"i can just see it now... your mom calls from her vacation abroad: "Hey! How you doing? Can you turn your laptop on i want to show uncle henry your photos of the wedding", "mom, it's 3am... i wish i had put my photos on flckr!"</b></i> "</p><p>If yer mum calls you at 3 am looking for photos tell her to quit doing speed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" i can just see it now... your mom calls from her vacation abroad : " Hey !
How you doing ?
Can you turn your laptop on i want to show uncle henry your photos of the wedding " , " mom , it 's 3am... i wish i had put my photos on flckr !
" " If yer mum calls you at 3 am looking for photos tell her to quit doing speed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "i can just see it now... your mom calls from her vacation abroad: "Hey!
How you doing?
Can you turn your laptop on i want to show uncle henry your photos of the wedding", "mom, it's 3am... i wish i had put my photos on flckr!
" "If yer mum calls you at 3 am looking for photos tell her to quit doing speed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347583</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347925</id>
	<title>Re:Acid 3 test</title>
	<author>Hal\_Porter</author>
	<datestamp>1245169080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I honestly don't know why Opera isn't more popular. I've tried IE 3.0-8.0, Netscape, all versions of Firefox since it was released, Maxthon, CrazyBrowser and Chrome and I always end up going back to using Opera exclusively.</p><p>Actually IE and FF are now quite close to Opera because both have copied features from it. Still neither are quite as slick.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I honestly do n't know why Opera is n't more popular .
I 've tried IE 3.0-8.0 , Netscape , all versions of Firefox since it was released , Maxthon , CrazyBrowser and Chrome and I always end up going back to using Opera exclusively.Actually IE and FF are now quite close to Opera because both have copied features from it .
Still neither are quite as slick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I honestly don't know why Opera isn't more popular.
I've tried IE 3.0-8.0, Netscape, all versions of Firefox since it was released, Maxthon, CrazyBrowser and Chrome and I always end up going back to using Opera exclusively.Actually IE and FF are now quite close to Opera because both have copied features from it.
Still neither are quite as slick.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346995</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28351621</id>
	<title>Oh boy...</title>
	<author>RightSaidFred99</author>
	<datestamp>1245182040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Opera making a laughable ploy to stay relevant by putting more crap in the browser is hilarious.  Like there aren't a myriad of products \_dedicated\_ to sharing your own content.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Opera making a laughable ploy to stay relevant by putting more crap in the browser is hilarious .
Like there are n't a myriad of products \ _dedicated \ _ to sharing your own content .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Opera making a laughable ploy to stay relevant by putting more crap in the browser is hilarious.
Like there aren't a myriad of products \_dedicated\_ to sharing your own content.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28366125</id>
	<title>Re:opera - no longer an Enterprise option</title>
	<author>Nicolay77</author>
	<datestamp>1245232560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Enterprises are using IE6 anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Enterprises are using IE6 anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Enterprises are using IE6 anyway.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347539</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347983</id>
	<title>Re:So very very stupid</title>
	<author>damburger</author>
	<datestamp>1245169320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This simply opens up one, quite specific, point of attack through an application which has a fairly good track record for security.</p><p>I can see how, on the face of it, getting entry level users to run web servers is opening you up to some attacks, but in a cost benefit analysis I still think it is a winning move. Besides, it is a web server specifically aimed at entry level users; if Opera have any sense security will have been their main focus.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This simply opens up one , quite specific , point of attack through an application which has a fairly good track record for security.I can see how , on the face of it , getting entry level users to run web servers is opening you up to some attacks , but in a cost benefit analysis I still think it is a winning move .
Besides , it is a web server specifically aimed at entry level users ; if Opera have any sense security will have been their main focus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This simply opens up one, quite specific, point of attack through an application which has a fairly good track record for security.I can see how, on the face of it, getting entry level users to run web servers is opening you up to some attacks, but in a cost benefit analysis I still think it is a winning move.
Besides, it is a web server specifically aimed at entry level users; if Opera have any sense security will have been their main focus.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347109</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348909</id>
	<title>Opera Unite!</title>
	<author>Tetsujin</author>
	<datestamp>1245172980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So Opera's going to transform and combine to form a giant robot?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So Opera 's going to transform and combine to form a giant robot ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Opera's going to transform and combine to form a giant robot?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28351343</id>
	<title>Re:I wrote this 9 years ago!</title>
	<author>hubert.lepicki</author>
	<datestamp>1245181140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This link looks funny, but I'm full of respect, man.</p><p>Did you get smart enough to patent it?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This link looks funny , but I 'm full of respect , man.Did you get smart enough to patent it ?
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This link looks funny, but I'm full of respect, man.Did you get smart enough to patent it?
;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348187</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28354963</id>
	<title>Re:Auto-updates?</title>
	<author>rs79</author>
	<datestamp>1245153660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> <b>"What about auto-updates?<br>This is something what prevents me from even considering Opera as main web-browser.<br>IE (in a way) does it. Chrome does it. FireFox does it. Opera - doesn't.</b></i> "</p><p>THANK FUCKING CHRIST!</p><p>Firefox's annoying habit of doing something I don't want it to do is disgusting.</p><p>You can't help people that don't want help and firefox updating a browser to something I know doesn't work right with sites that are important to me or XP updating and rebooting when I left my machine in a complex and known state are inexcusable. *my* computer, *I'M* in charge and don't you dare change stuff "just cause".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" What about auto-updates ? This is something what prevents me from even considering Opera as main web-browser.IE ( in a way ) does it .
Chrome does it .
FireFox does it .
Opera - does n't .
" THANK FUCKING CHRIST ! Firefox 's annoying habit of doing something I do n't want it to do is disgusting.You ca n't help people that do n't want help and firefox updating a browser to something I know does n't work right with sites that are important to me or XP updating and rebooting when I left my machine in a complex and known state are inexcusable .
* my * computer , * I 'M * in charge and do n't you dare change stuff " just cause " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "What about auto-updates?This is something what prevents me from even considering Opera as main web-browser.IE (in a way) does it.
Chrome does it.
FireFox does it.
Opera - doesn't.
"THANK FUCKING CHRIST!Firefox's annoying habit of doing something I don't want it to do is disgusting.You can't help people that don't want help and firefox updating a browser to something I know doesn't work right with sites that are important to me or XP updating and rebooting when I left my machine in a complex and known state are inexcusable.
*my* computer, *I'M* in charge and don't you dare change stuff "just cause".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347225</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347001</id>
	<title>OMG! That bug is coming back!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245163980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the early days Netscape came with some such functionality. And the websites were able to derive an object from one of the server classes. Some of the private/public/protected interfaces were messed up. So a malicious site could promote that object and essentially ask for anything in the computer and get it. <p>

Acid test tests only the compatibility with the standards. It says nothing about how vulnerable the executable is in the hands of malicious web masters.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the early days Netscape came with some such functionality .
And the websites were able to derive an object from one of the server classes .
Some of the private/public/protected interfaces were messed up .
So a malicious site could promote that object and essentially ask for anything in the computer and get it .
Acid test tests only the compatibility with the standards .
It says nothing about how vulnerable the executable is in the hands of malicious web masters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the early days Netscape came with some such functionality.
And the websites were able to derive an object from one of the server classes.
Some of the private/public/protected interfaces were messed up.
So a malicious site could promote that object and essentially ask for anything in the computer and get it.
Acid test tests only the compatibility with the standards.
It says nothing about how vulnerable the executable is in the hands of malicious web masters.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28350493</id>
	<title>immediately tossed it</title>
	<author>nephridium</author>
	<datestamp>1245178020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>First of all, I really like Opera, I use it all the time for browsing and email alongside Firefox and Iron, and will continue using it as a web browser.
<br> <br>
So I was thrilled to read about this new feature in 10 beta version, downloaded it and installed it on a test system. Turns out if you want to use the new feature you'll have to register with their "network". Sorry, but my privacy is worth a little more than the convenience that this new feature provides over the current apps used for the functions it's supposed to cover.
<br> <br>
I guess we'll need to wait for Google Wave to come around (brought to you by the creators of google maps) - just saw <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v\_UyVmITiYQ" title="youtube.com">this video</a> [youtube.com] and was very impressed. It lets you upload pics, messages etc. as if you had a webserver, but is far more interactive. If you run your own server node (and encrypt your data) there shouldn't be any security or privacy concerns either, because you can decide what data gets out to third parties (incl. Google). Best of all it's open source using open standards - anyone can write extensions or fork.</htmltext>
<tokenext>First of all , I really like Opera , I use it all the time for browsing and email alongside Firefox and Iron , and will continue using it as a web browser .
So I was thrilled to read about this new feature in 10 beta version , downloaded it and installed it on a test system .
Turns out if you want to use the new feature you 'll have to register with their " network " .
Sorry , but my privacy is worth a little more than the convenience that this new feature provides over the current apps used for the functions it 's supposed to cover .
I guess we 'll need to wait for Google Wave to come around ( brought to you by the creators of google maps ) - just saw this video [ youtube.com ] and was very impressed .
It lets you upload pics , messages etc .
as if you had a webserver , but is far more interactive .
If you run your own server node ( and encrypt your data ) there should n't be any security or privacy concerns either , because you can decide what data gets out to third parties ( incl .
Google ) . Best of all it 's open source using open standards - anyone can write extensions or fork .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First of all, I really like Opera, I use it all the time for browsing and email alongside Firefox and Iron, and will continue using it as a web browser.
So I was thrilled to read about this new feature in 10 beta version, downloaded it and installed it on a test system.
Turns out if you want to use the new feature you'll have to register with their "network".
Sorry, but my privacy is worth a little more than the convenience that this new feature provides over the current apps used for the functions it's supposed to cover.
I guess we'll need to wait for Google Wave to come around (brought to you by the creators of google maps) - just saw this video [youtube.com] and was very impressed.
It lets you upload pics, messages etc.
as if you had a webserver, but is far more interactive.
If you run your own server node (and encrypt your data) there shouldn't be any security or privacy concerns either, because you can decide what data gets out to third parties (incl.
Google). Best of all it's open source using open standards - anyone can write extensions or fork.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28350435</id>
	<title>Re:So many features...</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1245177840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Did they just slap a GUI on Emacs?</p></div><p>No, but I hear that Emacs is going to be one of Opera Unite widgets in the final release. Now you can truly run your OS inside your browser!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did they just slap a GUI on Emacs ? No , but I hear that Emacs is going to be one of Opera Unite widgets in the final release .
Now you can truly run your OS inside your browser !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did they just slap a GUI on Emacs?No, but I hear that Emacs is going to be one of Opera Unite widgets in the final release.
Now you can truly run your OS inside your browser!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347681</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348107</id>
	<title>Re:WTF?</title>
	<author>gbjbaanb</author>
	<datestamp>1245169920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It won't be much of an issue -  most users are behind a NAT device so are not easily (for joe sixpack) going to be able to enable the webserver part. A lot of other apps have embedded webservers in them (think torrent apps and firewalls!) to remotely control them anyway, so its not like this is going to make a significant increase in the number of computers that are already "botnet-enabled".</p><p>But... lets assume it works really well, and is secure (eg only serves static html pages or carefully written add-on modules written by people who know what they're doing). Maybe this could be IPv6's killer app.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It wo n't be much of an issue - most users are behind a NAT device so are not easily ( for joe sixpack ) going to be able to enable the webserver part .
A lot of other apps have embedded webservers in them ( think torrent apps and firewalls !
) to remotely control them anyway , so its not like this is going to make a significant increase in the number of computers that are already " botnet-enabled " .But... lets assume it works really well , and is secure ( eg only serves static html pages or carefully written add-on modules written by people who know what they 're doing ) .
Maybe this could be IPv6 's killer app .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It won't be much of an issue -  most users are behind a NAT device so are not easily (for joe sixpack) going to be able to enable the webserver part.
A lot of other apps have embedded webservers in them (think torrent apps and firewalls!
) to remotely control them anyway, so its not like this is going to make a significant increase in the number of computers that are already "botnet-enabled".But... lets assume it works really well, and is secure (eg only serves static html pages or carefully written add-on modules written by people who know what they're doing).
Maybe this could be IPv6's killer app.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347373</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347763</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>CarpetShark</author>
	<datestamp>1245168240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The kitchen sink server will be released soon, as part of their client software, Cup 1.0.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The kitchen sink server will be released soon , as part of their client software , Cup 1.0 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The kitchen sink server will be released soon, as part of their client software, Cup 1.0.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346981</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347173</id>
	<title>Wait a minute</title>
	<author>Amiralul</author>
	<datestamp>1245164940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wait, wait, wait...
Opera 10 is still in beta and there is a clear distinction between Opera "the browser" and Opera Unite, which is probably in alpha state. So, do not confuse Opera 10 Web Browser with the new Opera Unite buzz word. How hard can it be to understand that?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait , wait , wait.. . Opera 10 is still in beta and there is a clear distinction between Opera " the browser " and Opera Unite , which is probably in alpha state .
So , do not confuse Opera 10 Web Browser with the new Opera Unite buzz word .
How hard can it be to understand that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait, wait, wait...
Opera 10 is still in beta and there is a clear distinction between Opera "the browser" and Opera Unite, which is probably in alpha state.
So, do not confuse Opera 10 Web Browser with the new Opera Unite buzz word.
How hard can it be to understand that?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347181</id>
	<title>Oblig</title>
	<author>CopaceticOpus</author>
	<datestamp>1245165000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yo dawg, I heard you like surfing, so we put a web server in your browser so you can surf while your surf!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yo dawg , I heard you like surfing , so we put a web server in your browser so you can surf while your surf !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yo dawg, I heard you like surfing, so we put a web server in your browser so you can surf while your surf!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347963</id>
	<title>Re:Alpha!</title>
	<author>akorvemaker</author>
	<datestamp>1245169260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did you install it as an upgrade of your previous version, or as a separate install?</p><p>I believe the alpha/beta versions default to a separate install.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you install it as an upgrade of your previous version , or as a separate install ? I believe the alpha/beta versions default to a separate install .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you install it as an upgrade of your previous version, or as a separate install?I believe the alpha/beta versions default to a separate install.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347593</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348129</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>MobileTatsu-NJG</author>
	<datestamp>1245170040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled.</p></div><p>Show a little respect.  The seven of us are shaking down features you'll be using on Firefox in three or four years.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled.Show a little respect .
The seven of us are shaking down features you 'll be using on Firefox in three or four years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled.Show a little respect.
The seven of us are shaking down features you'll be using on Firefox in three or four years.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346991</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28355843</id>
	<title>Holy hell!</title>
	<author>drmitch</author>
	<datestamp>1245158520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The beta had like... NONE of these features. What next? OperaOS?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The beta had like... NONE of these features .
What next ?
OperaOS ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The beta had like... NONE of these features.
What next?
OperaOS?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28349641</id>
	<title>Re:bloat</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245175380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Here is what would be cool.  A mechanism that would allow the browser to use firefox plugins.  Opera does not seem to have the wealth of plugins that firefox does, and from what I can tell, plugins is why people use firefox.  Instead of wasting effort, why not make Opera so it can use the Firefox model?</p></div><p>You mean all those plugins that reproduce functionality that is natively built into Opera? Or the plugins that Opera can already use? Or the userjs you can use to build your own plugins? And weren't you talking about bloat?</p><p>In order to make Opera use the FF model, it would need to strip out a bunch of features and then find another better browser to copy things from via plugins.</p><p>Instead of wasting time on plugins, maybe FF can find a way to stop the runaway RAM usage. There is no reason FF should use 240MB of RAM with 4 tabs open when Opera doesn't break 100MB with a good dozen.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here is what would be cool .
A mechanism that would allow the browser to use firefox plugins .
Opera does not seem to have the wealth of plugins that firefox does , and from what I can tell , plugins is why people use firefox .
Instead of wasting effort , why not make Opera so it can use the Firefox model ? You mean all those plugins that reproduce functionality that is natively built into Opera ?
Or the plugins that Opera can already use ?
Or the userjs you can use to build your own plugins ?
And were n't you talking about bloat ? In order to make Opera use the FF model , it would need to strip out a bunch of features and then find another better browser to copy things from via plugins.Instead of wasting time on plugins , maybe FF can find a way to stop the runaway RAM usage .
There is no reason FF should use 240MB of RAM with 4 tabs open when Opera does n't break 100MB with a good dozen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here is what would be cool.
A mechanism that would allow the browser to use firefox plugins.
Opera does not seem to have the wealth of plugins that firefox does, and from what I can tell, plugins is why people use firefox.
Instead of wasting effort, why not make Opera so it can use the Firefox model?You mean all those plugins that reproduce functionality that is natively built into Opera?
Or the plugins that Opera can already use?
Or the userjs you can use to build your own plugins?
And weren't you talking about bloat?In order to make Opera use the FF model, it would need to strip out a bunch of features and then find another better browser to copy things from via plugins.Instead of wasting time on plugins, maybe FF can find a way to stop the runaway RAM usage.
There is no reason FF should use 240MB of RAM with 4 tabs open when Opera doesn't break 100MB with a good dozen.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347211</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347407</id>
	<title>Holy security nightmare.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245166440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>how long until this is owned?  it probably already is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>how long until this is owned ?
it probably already is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how long until this is owned?
it probably already is.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28359383</id>
	<title>Little late but...</title>
	<author>YoungJules</author>
	<datestamp>1245237480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>... isn't this just what the Iranians are looking for?  This kind of democratic peer to peer communication removes the need to rely on central social networking sites and puts the internet back in the hands of the people.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... is n't this just what the Iranians are looking for ?
This kind of democratic peer to peer communication removes the need to rely on central social networking sites and puts the internet back in the hands of the people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... isn't this just what the Iranians are looking for?
This kind of democratic peer to peer communication removes the need to rely on central social networking sites and puts the internet back in the hands of the people.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28358729</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245272040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>nope, but theres a fridge for ya, not as awesome, but it'll do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>nope , but theres a fridge for ya , not as awesome , but it 'll do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nope, but theres a fridge for ya, not as awesome, but it'll do.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346981</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347799</id>
	<title>Re:Acid 3 test</title>
	<author>CarpetShark</author>
	<datestamp>1245168360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Why should I care that my browser scored 100/100 on the Acid 3 test?</p></div></blockquote><p>In general?  Because it means more advanced features, that are fully standards compliant and targetable as a development platform.</p><p>In this case?  Because it shows that Opera are working on getting some things right in their browser, even if they haven't managed to stop the thing displaying cached pages from sites that aren't even running any more.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why should I care that my browser scored 100/100 on the Acid 3 test ? In general ?
Because it means more advanced features , that are fully standards compliant and targetable as a development platform.In this case ?
Because it shows that Opera are working on getting some things right in their browser , even if they have n't managed to stop the thing displaying cached pages from sites that are n't even running any more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why should I care that my browser scored 100/100 on the Acid 3 test?In general?
Because it means more advanced features, that are fully standards compliant and targetable as a development platform.In this case?
Because it shows that Opera are working on getting some things right in their browser, even if they haven't managed to stop the thing displaying cached pages from sites that aren't even running any more.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346995</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348237</id>
	<title>Even better...</title>
	<author>AlXtreme</author>
	<datestamp>1245170520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They'll integrate Emacs next.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 'll integrate Emacs next .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They'll integrate Emacs next.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346981</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348569</id>
	<title>Wow, Acid3</title>
	<author>lluBdeR</author>
	<datestamp>1245171840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How many times did they have to refresh the acid 3 test page?  I just tried 4 times in Firefox 3.0.11 and got 4 different scores.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How many times did they have to refresh the acid 3 test page ?
I just tried 4 times in Firefox 3.0.11 and got 4 different scores .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many times did they have to refresh the acid 3 test page?
I just tried 4 times in Firefox 3.0.11 and got 4 different scores.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347691</id>
	<title>Upload speed , bandwidth costs, always-on comp?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245167820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Self-hosted servers don't work for most people because:<br>(1) Most people don't have the upload speed (asymmetric ADSL)<br>(2) If you wanted to have bigger upload the bandwidth would cost most people a lot... that's why most people don't have such plans in the first place...<br>(3) Most people don't leave their computer on all of the time nor do they want to (heat, noise, electricity bill...)<br>(4) As many others have noted, security is an issue here...</p><p>Really, except for very light usage (very small text files shared with only a few friends) I don't see the use of this. Nobody on a typical home bandwidth program is going to be sharing (uploading) multi-MB files, not unless the other side is willing to wait a *long* time. For sharing files effectively the only way to go is P2P and that only works well once you have 10s-100s of sources, not a single source.</p><p>What are the people at Opera thinking? This isn't "web changing", just silly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Self-hosted servers do n't work for most people because : ( 1 ) Most people do n't have the upload speed ( asymmetric ADSL ) ( 2 ) If you wanted to have bigger upload the bandwidth would cost most people a lot... that 's why most people do n't have such plans in the first place... ( 3 ) Most people do n't leave their computer on all of the time nor do they want to ( heat , noise , electricity bill... ) ( 4 ) As many others have noted , security is an issue here...Really , except for very light usage ( very small text files shared with only a few friends ) I do n't see the use of this .
Nobody on a typical home bandwidth program is going to be sharing ( uploading ) multi-MB files , not unless the other side is willing to wait a * long * time .
For sharing files effectively the only way to go is P2P and that only works well once you have 10s-100s of sources , not a single source.What are the people at Opera thinking ?
This is n't " web changing " , just silly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Self-hosted servers don't work for most people because:(1) Most people don't have the upload speed (asymmetric ADSL)(2) If you wanted to have bigger upload the bandwidth would cost most people a lot... that's why most people don't have such plans in the first place...(3) Most people don't leave their computer on all of the time nor do they want to (heat, noise, electricity bill...)(4) As many others have noted, security is an issue here...Really, except for very light usage (very small text files shared with only a few friends) I don't see the use of this.
Nobody on a typical home bandwidth program is going to be sharing (uploading) multi-MB files, not unless the other side is willing to wait a *long* time.
For sharing files effectively the only way to go is P2P and that only works well once you have 10s-100s of sources, not a single source.What are the people at Opera thinking?
This isn't "web changing", just silly.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28351525</id>
	<title>Re:Servers are always on, desktops / laptops are n</title>
	<author>jilles</author>
	<datestamp>1245181740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So put the server on your mobile phone (if you have a Nokia): <a href="http://mymobilesite.net/" title="mymobilesite.net">http://mymobilesite.net/</a> [mymobilesite.net]. Opera is hardly being original here<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So put the server on your mobile phone ( if you have a Nokia ) : http : //mymobilesite.net/ [ mymobilesite.net ] .
Opera is hardly being original here .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So put the server on your mobile phone (if you have a Nokia): http://mymobilesite.net/ [mymobilesite.net].
Opera is hardly being original here ...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347583</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347613</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>Kamokazi</author>
	<datestamp>1245167400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would be, if it was actually Opera 10 being released today.  However that is not the case.  They released the Alpha of their new Unite collaboration thingamajig which requires the current BETA of Opera 10.  The current version is still 9.64, with 9.7 in beta testing, so it will be some time before 10 comes out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would be , if it was actually Opera 10 being released today .
However that is not the case .
They released the Alpha of their new Unite collaboration thingamajig which requires the current BETA of Opera 10 .
The current version is still 9.64 , with 9.7 in beta testing , so it will be some time before 10 comes out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would be, if it was actually Opera 10 being released today.
However that is not the case.
They released the Alpha of their new Unite collaboration thingamajig which requires the current BETA of Opera 10.
The current version is still 9.64, with 9.7 in beta testing, so it will be some time before 10 comes out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346991</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28358351</id>
	<title>Bloaty the whale</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245181500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If this turns Opera into the piece of bloatware unite.opera.com seems to be suggesting it will, Opera just lost a long-time user. At least for new versions - I'll probably stick to the newest 9 series until I can find something better.

And to you Chrome jackasses, no, it's not the best browser ever, and with the track record for security it had right out of the box I'd really rather not trust it with anything. It doesn't have a good few features I use for web development anyway; no instant code editing, no developer tools, and I am just not a fan of the interface either.

It is a sad, sad day for Opera</htmltext>
<tokenext>If this turns Opera into the piece of bloatware unite.opera.com seems to be suggesting it will , Opera just lost a long-time user .
At least for new versions - I 'll probably stick to the newest 9 series until I can find something better .
And to you Chrome jackasses , no , it 's not the best browser ever , and with the track record for security it had right out of the box I 'd really rather not trust it with anything .
It does n't have a good few features I use for web development anyway ; no instant code editing , no developer tools , and I am just not a fan of the interface either .
It is a sad , sad day for Opera</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If this turns Opera into the piece of bloatware unite.opera.com seems to be suggesting it will, Opera just lost a long-time user.
At least for new versions - I'll probably stick to the newest 9 series until I can find something better.
And to you Chrome jackasses, no, it's not the best browser ever, and with the track record for security it had right out of the box I'd really rather not trust it with anything.
It doesn't have a good few features I use for web development anyway; no instant code editing, no developer tools, and I am just not a fan of the interface either.
It is a sad, sad day for Opera</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347781</id>
	<title>More bloat</title>
	<author>Snaller</author>
	<datestamp>1245168300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is there actually something useful?</p><p>Like being able to make the fonts smaller or larger on pages? (They haven't had this, they "zoom" into the page, which is rubbish)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is there actually something useful ? Like being able to make the fonts smaller or larger on pages ?
( They have n't had this , they " zoom " into the page , which is rubbish )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is there actually something useful?Like being able to make the fonts smaller or larger on pages?
(They haven't had this, they "zoom" into the page, which is rubbish)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347681</id>
	<title>So many features...</title>
	<author>Tarlus</author>
	<datestamp>1245167760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did they just slap a GUI on Emacs?<br> <br>
<i>*Runs away*</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did they just slap a GUI on Emacs ?
* Runs away *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did they just slap a GUI on Emacs?
*Runs away*</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348797</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>gknoy</author>
	<datestamp>1245172620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>True, it's not an official release yet. That said, I've been using Opera 10 beta for several months now, and it seems more stable than Opera 9 was. It appears to handle scripting on some websites more properly than 9 did, also. (Some sites wouldn't display right in Opera9; I can't think of any off the top of my head, though.)  I am certainly a fan.</p><p>That said, I REALLY dislike having the <b>tab close button</b> on the tab itself, and dislike the new "locked tab" icon's transparency.  I normally have Way Too Many tabs open (38, right now), and the tabs are pretty much exactly as wide as their favicon (normally displayed on the tab).  Unfortunately, I am still accustomed to being able to click the active tab to put it in the background -- but now, doing so closes the tab. Phoey.</p><p>I still like it better than Firefox, though.  I don't think it's even entirely rational: I can't think of features that I like about Opera which Firefox doesn't have (except for its awesome "block content" feature).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>True , it 's not an official release yet .
That said , I 've been using Opera 10 beta for several months now , and it seems more stable than Opera 9 was .
It appears to handle scripting on some websites more properly than 9 did , also .
( Some sites would n't display right in Opera9 ; I ca n't think of any off the top of my head , though .
) I am certainly a fan.That said , I REALLY dislike having the tab close button on the tab itself , and dislike the new " locked tab " icon 's transparency .
I normally have Way Too Many tabs open ( 38 , right now ) , and the tabs are pretty much exactly as wide as their favicon ( normally displayed on the tab ) .
Unfortunately , I am still accustomed to being able to click the active tab to put it in the background -- but now , doing so closes the tab .
Phoey.I still like it better than Firefox , though .
I do n't think it 's even entirely rational : I ca n't think of features that I like about Opera which Firefox does n't have ( except for its awesome " block content " feature ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True, it's not an official release yet.
That said, I've been using Opera 10 beta for several months now, and it seems more stable than Opera 9 was.
It appears to handle scripting on some websites more properly than 9 did, also.
(Some sites wouldn't display right in Opera9; I can't think of any off the top of my head, though.
)  I am certainly a fan.That said, I REALLY dislike having the tab close button on the tab itself, and dislike the new "locked tab" icon's transparency.
I normally have Way Too Many tabs open (38, right now), and the tabs are pretty much exactly as wide as their favicon (normally displayed on the tab).
Unfortunately, I am still accustomed to being able to click the active tab to put it in the background -- but now, doing so closes the tab.
Phoey.I still like it better than Firefox, though.
I don't think it's even entirely rational: I can't think of features that I like about Opera which Firefox doesn't have (except for its awesome "block content" feature).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347937</id>
	<title>OMG!  Call the DOJ! Call the EU!</title>
	<author>itsdapead</author>
	<datestamp>1245169140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled.</p></div><p>&lt;joke&gt;<br>
OMG! OMG! Opera is leveraging their dominant position in the web browser market to unfairly compete with Apache!  Why does everybody whine when Microsoft does this and Opera gets away scot free?
<br>&lt;/joke&gt;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled .
OMG ! OMG !
Opera is leveraging their dominant position in the web browser market to unfairly compete with Apache !
Why does everybody whine when Microsoft does this and Opera gets away scot free ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure all seven Opera users will be thrilled.
OMG! OMG!
Opera is leveraging their dominant position in the web browser market to unfairly compete with Apache!
Why does everybody whine when Microsoft does this and Opera gets away scot free?

	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347813</id>
	<title>almost seems contrary to cloud computing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245168480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The introduction of in-built publishing mechanisms (like the web server) seems almost contrary to the concept of cloud computing - in a good way. From what I understand, in a cloud computing world all applications and content are hosted "in the cloud". This of-course brings a lot of ownership (who owns my content?), privacy (who can access my content?), and history (what happens when I want to remove my content?) issues. I suppose if we were to host all our personal info on our own web-browser, we would have full control of every aspect of what and how our content is disseminated. Now, the only problem is the upload bandwidth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The introduction of in-built publishing mechanisms ( like the web server ) seems almost contrary to the concept of cloud computing - in a good way .
From what I understand , in a cloud computing world all applications and content are hosted " in the cloud " .
This of-course brings a lot of ownership ( who owns my content ?
) , privacy ( who can access my content ?
) , and history ( what happens when I want to remove my content ?
) issues .
I suppose if we were to host all our personal info on our own web-browser , we would have full control of every aspect of what and how our content is disseminated .
Now , the only problem is the upload bandwidth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The introduction of in-built publishing mechanisms (like the web server) seems almost contrary to the concept of cloud computing - in a good way.
From what I understand, in a cloud computing world all applications and content are hosted "in the cloud".
This of-course brings a lot of ownership (who owns my content?
), privacy (who can access my content?
), and history (what happens when I want to remove my content?
) issues.
I suppose if we were to host all our personal info on our own web-browser, we would have full control of every aspect of what and how our content is disseminated.
Now, the only problem is the upload bandwidth.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348543</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245171780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Parent was trying to be funny, I know, but, between Opera for the desktop, Mini, Mobile and (for) Devices there should be some tens of millions of people using a variant of Opera.<br>Hard numbers are apparently hard to come by though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Parent was trying to be funny , I know , but , between Opera for the desktop , Mini , Mobile and ( for ) Devices there should be some tens of millions of people using a variant of Opera.Hard numbers are apparently hard to come by though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Parent was trying to be funny, I know, but, between Opera for the desktop, Mini, Mobile and (for) Devices there should be some tens of millions of people using a variant of Opera.Hard numbers are apparently hard to come by though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346991</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28365999</id>
	<title>Re:Kneejerk reaction like normal.</title>
	<author>Nicolay77</author>
	<datestamp>1245231960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is not similar to Google Wave. Google Wave is a messaging server with a Web client. And amazingly smart agents.<br>Google Wave also has a very defined protocol so that two Google Wave servers can communicate.</p><p>Opera Unite is a home Web server development platform that uses XML and JS. It actually uses the sandbox model of the widgets, in fact it leverages the entire widgets infrastructure.</p><p>Some of the ideas on Google Wave can be copied, and a Google Wave client in Opera Unite is still a posibility. It also would be awesome in uncountable amounts.</p><p>I also agree with the fact that file sharing using Opera Unite is very kewl and practically untraceable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is not similar to Google Wave .
Google Wave is a messaging server with a Web client .
And amazingly smart agents.Google Wave also has a very defined protocol so that two Google Wave servers can communicate.Opera Unite is a home Web server development platform that uses XML and JS .
It actually uses the sandbox model of the widgets , in fact it leverages the entire widgets infrastructure.Some of the ideas on Google Wave can be copied , and a Google Wave client in Opera Unite is still a posibility .
It also would be awesome in uncountable amounts.I also agree with the fact that file sharing using Opera Unite is very kewl and practically untraceable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is not similar to Google Wave.
Google Wave is a messaging server with a Web client.
And amazingly smart agents.Google Wave also has a very defined protocol so that two Google Wave servers can communicate.Opera Unite is a home Web server development platform that uses XML and JS.
It actually uses the sandbox model of the widgets, in fact it leverages the entire widgets infrastructure.Some of the ideas on Google Wave can be copied, and a Google Wave client in Opera Unite is still a posibility.
It also would be awesome in uncountable amounts.I also agree with the fact that file sharing using Opera Unite is very kewl and practically untraceable.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347347</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347583</id>
	<title>Servers are always on, desktops / laptops are not</title>
	<author>GordonCopestake</author>
	<datestamp>1245167280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i can just see it now... your mom calls from her vacation abroad: "Hey! How you doing? Can you turn your laptop on i want to show uncle henry your photos of the wedding", "mom, it's 3am... i wish i had put my photos on flckr!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i can just see it now... your mom calls from her vacation abroad : " Hey !
How you doing ?
Can you turn your laptop on i want to show uncle henry your photos of the wedding " , " mom , it 's 3am... i wish i had put my photos on flckr !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i can just see it now... your mom calls from her vacation abroad: "Hey!
How you doing?
Can you turn your laptop on i want to show uncle henry your photos of the wedding", "mom, it's 3am... i wish i had put my photos on flckr!
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348187</id>
	<title>I wrote this 9 years ago!</title>
	<author>ChronoFish</author>
	<datestamp>1245170220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The "Fishbowl" browser had an integrated web server.</p><p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20010502014727/chronofish.com/FishBowl/" title="archive.org">http://web.archive.org/web/20010502014727/chronofish.com/FishBowl/</a> [archive.org]</p><p>-CF</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The " Fishbowl " browser had an integrated web server.http : //web.archive.org/web/20010502014727/chronofish.com/FishBowl/ [ archive.org ] -CF</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The "Fishbowl" browser had an integrated web server.http://web.archive.org/web/20010502014727/chronofish.com/FishBowl/ [archive.org]-CF</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347379</id>
	<title>Opera + Gears + Webserver + PDA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245166260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Opera already have a very nice version resized to fit in a PDA and it's integrated with Google Gears persistence. It would be a *perfect* execution plataform but unfortunately Windows Mobile is so buggy that it deactivates the IP stack if you're not physically connected to the network so it's impossible to run an offline version of the application. But if Opera includes an embedded web server...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Opera already have a very nice version resized to fit in a PDA and it 's integrated with Google Gears persistence .
It would be a * perfect * execution plataform but unfortunately Windows Mobile is so buggy that it deactivates the IP stack if you 're not physically connected to the network so it 's impossible to run an offline version of the application .
But if Opera includes an embedded web server.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Opera already have a very nice version resized to fit in a PDA and it's integrated with Google Gears persistence.
It would be a *perfect* execution plataform but unfortunately Windows Mobile is so buggy that it deactivates the IP stack if you're not physically connected to the network so it's impossible to run an offline version of the application.
But if Opera includes an embedded web server...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28349395</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>AaxelB</author>
	<datestamp>1245174540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let's see, three things:
<br> <br>1. It looks like the latest version of <a href="http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/" title="gnu.org">Emacs</a> [gnu.org] is more than 3 times the size of this latest <a href="http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/10-unite/intel-linux/" title="opera.com">Opera snapshot</a> [opera.com], web server and everything! So, you know, Emacs is still worth complaining about. (I know, source code vs. compiled binary isn't fair, but I was just making a joke, and Emacs is still fat.)
<br> <br> 2. Opera has always been a web suite, for longer than Firefox has even existed, and it's always come with an insane number of features out of the box,  and yet it's also always been fast and nimble and light on memory. I think if anyone can keep these new features from acting as a ball and chain on your computer, Opera can.
<br> <br> 3. Um... I forget number three. But you're supposed to do things in threes, so here you go.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's see , three things : 1 .
It looks like the latest version of Emacs [ gnu.org ] is more than 3 times the size of this latest Opera snapshot [ opera.com ] , web server and everything !
So , you know , Emacs is still worth complaining about .
( I know , source code vs. compiled binary is n't fair , but I was just making a joke , and Emacs is still fat .
) 2 .
Opera has always been a web suite , for longer than Firefox has even existed , and it 's always come with an insane number of features out of the box , and yet it 's also always been fast and nimble and light on memory .
I think if anyone can keep these new features from acting as a ball and chain on your computer , Opera can .
3. Um... I forget number three .
But you 're supposed to do things in threes , so here you go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's see, three things:
 1.
It looks like the latest version of Emacs [gnu.org] is more than 3 times the size of this latest Opera snapshot [opera.com], web server and everything!
So, you know, Emacs is still worth complaining about.
(I know, source code vs. compiled binary isn't fair, but I was just making a joke, and Emacs is still fat.
)
  2.
Opera has always been a web suite, for longer than Firefox has even existed, and it's always come with an insane number of features out of the box,  and yet it's also always been fast and nimble and light on memory.
I think if anyone can keep these new features from acting as a ball and chain on your computer, Opera can.
3. Um... I forget number three.
But you're supposed to do things in threes, so here you go.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348523</id>
	<title>I mean DAMN</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245171720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>... that girl in that video is annoying as hell!</p><p>And what a shitty article summary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... that girl in that video is annoying as hell ! And what a shitty article summary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... that girl in that video is annoying as hell!And what a shitty article summary.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347659</id>
	<title>Re:WTF?</title>
	<author>Critical Facilities</author>
	<datestamp>1245167640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have to say I agree with you here.  The other bad part is,  for those 'idiots' who do manage to get this up and running,  imagine how many more worthless web pages that we're now going to be inundated with as people who lacked the tech savvy to run a web server before now suddenly find themselves able to run one,  and thus put up endless 'OMG Ponies' type websites.<br> <br>*shudder*</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to say I agree with you here .
The other bad part is , for those 'idiots ' who do manage to get this up and running , imagine how many more worthless web pages that we 're now going to be inundated with as people who lacked the tech savvy to run a web server before now suddenly find themselves able to run one , and thus put up endless 'OMG Ponies ' type websites .
* shudder *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to say I agree with you here.
The other bad part is,  for those 'idiots' who do manage to get this up and running,  imagine how many more worthless web pages that we're now going to be inundated with as people who lacked the tech savvy to run a web server before now suddenly find themselves able to run one,  and thus put up endless 'OMG Ponies' type websites.
*shudder*</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347373</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348767</id>
	<title>Re:Acid 3 test</title>
	<author>RoFLKOPTr</author>
	<datestamp>1245172560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Pretend for a second that I don't know anything about Acid 3. Pretend I'm just a regular Joe-sixpack web user.</p></div><p>Hi Joe, welcome to Slashdot. Here, we talk about computers, software, and other sorts of technology. Sometimes things may be explained from a professional's viewpoint, and some things may not be explained at all. If you need more information on something you're unsure about, there's a website out there called Google. You can get there by opening your AOL and typing in keyword "google". In there will be a little bar where you can enter text. If you type in "Acid3", Google will show you a whole bunch of sites that will tell you all about it.</p><p>Once again, welcome to Slashdot. Have fun!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretend for a second that I do n't know anything about Acid 3 .
Pretend I 'm just a regular Joe-sixpack web user.Hi Joe , welcome to Slashdot .
Here , we talk about computers , software , and other sorts of technology .
Sometimes things may be explained from a professional 's viewpoint , and some things may not be explained at all .
If you need more information on something you 're unsure about , there 's a website out there called Google .
You can get there by opening your AOL and typing in keyword " google " .
In there will be a little bar where you can enter text .
If you type in " Acid3 " , Google will show you a whole bunch of sites that will tell you all about it.Once again , welcome to Slashdot .
Have fun !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretend for a second that I don't know anything about Acid 3.
Pretend I'm just a regular Joe-sixpack web user.Hi Joe, welcome to Slashdot.
Here, we talk about computers, software, and other sorts of technology.
Sometimes things may be explained from a professional's viewpoint, and some things may not be explained at all.
If you need more information on something you're unsure about, there's a website out there called Google.
You can get there by opening your AOL and typing in keyword "google".
In there will be a little bar where you can enter text.
If you type in "Acid3", Google will show you a whole bunch of sites that will tell you all about it.Once again, welcome to Slashdot.
Have fun!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346995</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347265</id>
	<title>Re:OMG! That bug is coming back!</title>
	<author>bheer</author>
	<datestamp>1245165600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is an alpha release, as others have pointed out. It's not even part of the default browser install - it's a separate download. Treat it as a proof-of-concept and kick the tyres.</p><p>Also, this is 2009, not 1995. We know a lot more about developing more secure software, having secure development lifecycles, and reacting to vulnerabilities and updating software.</p><p><a href="http://www.scripting.com/davenet/1997/09/14/FractionalHorsepowerHTTPSe.html" title="scripting.com" rel="nofollow">Fractional horsepower web servers</a> [scripting.com] are not a new idea, but baking them into the browser is, and assuming the feature is off by default, it's a great idea. It makes the web a bit more equal and opens up new avenues for collaboration.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is an alpha release , as others have pointed out .
It 's not even part of the default browser install - it 's a separate download .
Treat it as a proof-of-concept and kick the tyres.Also , this is 2009 , not 1995 .
We know a lot more about developing more secure software , having secure development lifecycles , and reacting to vulnerabilities and updating software.Fractional horsepower web servers [ scripting.com ] are not a new idea , but baking them into the browser is , and assuming the feature is off by default , it 's a great idea .
It makes the web a bit more equal and opens up new avenues for collaboration .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is an alpha release, as others have pointed out.
It's not even part of the default browser install - it's a separate download.
Treat it as a proof-of-concept and kick the tyres.Also, this is 2009, not 1995.
We know a lot more about developing more secure software, having secure development lifecycles, and reacting to vulnerabilities and updating software.Fractional horsepower web servers [scripting.com] are not a new idea, but baking them into the browser is, and assuming the feature is off by default, it's a great idea.
It makes the web a bit more equal and opens up new avenues for collaboration.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347001</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28361009</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1245250920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes clearly, Slashdotters use what everyone else uses. That's why we all agree that IE is the best browser! I hope you're not one of those 8 Firefox users!</p><p>(Honestly, the two-faced snobbery is getting old - using alternative products to Microsoft is seen as good on the one hand, but if you use the "wrong" choice like Opera, we get looked down upon. Despite the fact that we switched from Microsoft long before it became trendy to do so.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes clearly , Slashdotters use what everyone else uses .
That 's why we all agree that IE is the best browser !
I hope you 're not one of those 8 Firefox users !
( Honestly , the two-faced snobbery is getting old - using alternative products to Microsoft is seen as good on the one hand , but if you use the " wrong " choice like Opera , we get looked down upon .
Despite the fact that we switched from Microsoft long before it became trendy to do so .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes clearly, Slashdotters use what everyone else uses.
That's why we all agree that IE is the best browser!
I hope you're not one of those 8 Firefox users!
(Honestly, the two-faced snobbery is getting old - using alternative products to Microsoft is seen as good on the one hand, but if you use the "wrong" choice like Opera, we get looked down upon.
Despite the fact that we switched from Microsoft long before it became trendy to do so.
)</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347495</id>
	<title>hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245166920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now, if only we can convince Europe to ram it in into Windows..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now , if only we can convince Europe to ram it in into Windows. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now, if only we can convince Europe to ram it in into Windows..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346995</id>
	<title>Acid 3 test</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245163920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pretend for a second that I don't know anything about Acid 3. Pretend I'm just a regular Joe-sixpack web user.</p><p>Why should I care that my browser scored 100/100 on the Acid 3 test?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretend for a second that I do n't know anything about Acid 3 .
Pretend I 'm just a regular Joe-sixpack web user.Why should I care that my browser scored 100/100 on the Acid 3 test ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretend for a second that I don't know anything about Acid 3.
Pretend I'm just a regular Joe-sixpack web user.Why should I care that my browser scored 100/100 on the Acid 3 test?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28349443</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>rs79</author>
	<datestamp>1245174660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some Opera betas aren't that usable. Like 10-alpha. 10-beta is usable, I tried it meekly, it holds up and I've been using it exclusively ever since it came out. The javascript engine is wicked fast and now things like ebay and fb pages don't take abnormally long to render.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some Opera betas are n't that usable .
Like 10-alpha .
10-beta is usable , I tried it meekly , it holds up and I 've been using it exclusively ever since it came out .
The javascript engine is wicked fast and now things like ebay and fb pages do n't take abnormally long to render .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some Opera betas aren't that usable.
Like 10-alpha.
10-beta is usable, I tried it meekly, it holds up and I've been using it exclusively ever since it came out.
The javascript engine is wicked fast and now things like ebay and fb pages don't take abnormally long to render.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347613</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347869</id>
	<title>Re:Security</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245168780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/netwerk/test/httpserver/README</p><p>Maybe, but looks like Firefox could include one pretty trivially<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/netwerk/test/httpserver/READMEMaybe , but looks like Firefox could include one pretty trivially : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/netwerk/test/httpserver/READMEMaybe, but looks like Firefox could include one pretty trivially :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347119</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28349901</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>Fweeky</author>
	<datestamp>1245176160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That said, I REALLY dislike having the tab close button on the tab itself<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I am still accustomed to being able to click the active tab to put it in the background -- but now, doing so closes the tab</p></div><p>Preferences -&gt; Advanced -&gt; Tabs -&gt; Additional tab options.  Check "Click on tab to minimise" and uncheck "Show close button on each tab".</p><p>Also, right click on tab bar, Customize -&gt; Appearance, select "Wrap to multiple lines".  Now you can see all your many tabs at once.  You may also find it useful to have them down the left or right of the window.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That said , I REALLY dislike having the tab close button on the tab itself ... I am still accustomed to being able to click the active tab to put it in the background -- but now , doing so closes the tabPreferences - &gt; Advanced - &gt; Tabs - &gt; Additional tab options .
Check " Click on tab to minimise " and uncheck " Show close button on each tab " .Also , right click on tab bar , Customize - &gt; Appearance , select " Wrap to multiple lines " .
Now you can see all your many tabs at once .
You may also find it useful to have them down the left or right of the window .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That said, I REALLY dislike having the tab close button on the tab itself ... I am still accustomed to being able to click the active tab to put it in the background -- but now, doing so closes the tabPreferences -&gt; Advanced -&gt; Tabs -&gt; Additional tab options.
Check "Click on tab to minimise" and uncheck "Show close button on each tab".Also, right click on tab bar, Customize -&gt; Appearance, select "Wrap to multiple lines".
Now you can see all your many tabs at once.
You may also find it useful to have them down the left or right of the window.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347845</id>
	<title>Re:Holy security nightmare.</title>
	<author>cenc</author>
	<datestamp>1245168600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With this release, they also wanted to take free software to the next level. Now anyone can own it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With this release , they also wanted to take free software to the next level .
Now anyone can own it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With this release, they also wanted to take free software to the next level.
Now anyone can own it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347407</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28350755</id>
	<title>Re:Excellent!</title>
	<author>Alvare</author>
	<datestamp>1245178860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been using Opera 10 since it is alpha, and I don't thing there is anything better available for the Linux Desktop nowadays. GTK+ is a joke when it comes to speed, Konqueror is even less compatible than Opera, and Links2 doesn't have flash support.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using Opera 10 since it is alpha , and I do n't thing there is anything better available for the Linux Desktop nowadays .
GTK + is a joke when it comes to speed , Konqueror is even less compatible than Opera , and Links2 does n't have flash support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using Opera 10 since it is alpha, and I don't thing there is anything better available for the Linux Desktop nowadays.
GTK+ is a joke when it comes to speed, Konqueror is even less compatible than Opera, and Links2 doesn't have flash support.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28346991</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28348995</id>
	<title>Re:So many features...</title>
	<author>rarel</author>
	<datestamp>1245173160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not just that, a GUI interface made in Visual Basic. Now I can get everyone's IP address!<br>
<br>
MWAHAHAHAHAHA! &gt;:D</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not just that , a GUI interface made in Visual Basic .
Now I can get everyone 's IP address !
MWAHAHAHAHAHA ! &gt; : D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not just that, a GUI interface made in Visual Basic.
Now I can get everyone's IP address!
MWAHAHAHAHAHA! &gt;:D</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28347681</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_16_1324225.28356971</id>
	<title>Re:Google Wave, anyone?</title>
	<author>k8to</author>
	<datestamp>1245166620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Decentralization and independence is huge.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Decentralization and independence is huge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Decentralization and independence is huge.</sentencetext>
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