<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_14_1317250</id>
	<title>DTV Transition Mostly Smooth, Windows Media Center Problems</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1244990160000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>dritan writes <i>"While most of <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/14/business/media/14digital.html?\_r=1&amp;hp">the transition to digital seems to have gone smoothly</a>, those who use Windows Media Center saw their screens <a href="http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/367690.aspx">go</a> <a href="http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/367848.aspx">dark</a>.  Users are complaining that Media Center did not pick up changes to channel assignments that took place on Friday. Someone forgot to update the static channel lists distributed with the program guide.  Users either have to wait for Microsoft to fix the problem, or <a href="http://thegreenbutton.com/blogs/pnear/archive/2006/09/12/202708.aspx">manually edit the configuration files</a>."</i>
Reports indicate that <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035\_3-10264369-94.html">the FCC received upwards of 300,000 calls</a> on Friday from consumers seeking late help with the transition, but they were prepared, with over 4,000 operators available to handle problems. The FCC's DTV website also had over 3 million hits on Friday. Both phone and Internet traffic have now tapered off, and supplies of converter boxes appear to have held out just fine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>dritan writes " While most of the transition to digital seems to have gone smoothly , those who use Windows Media Center saw their screens go dark .
Users are complaining that Media Center did not pick up changes to channel assignments that took place on Friday .
Someone forgot to update the static channel lists distributed with the program guide .
Users either have to wait for Microsoft to fix the problem , or manually edit the configuration files .
" Reports indicate that the FCC received upwards of 300,000 calls on Friday from consumers seeking late help with the transition , but they were prepared , with over 4,000 operators available to handle problems .
The FCC 's DTV website also had over 3 million hits on Friday .
Both phone and Internet traffic have now tapered off , and supplies of converter boxes appear to have held out just fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>dritan writes "While most of the transition to digital seems to have gone smoothly, those who use Windows Media Center saw their screens go dark.
Users are complaining that Media Center did not pick up changes to channel assignments that took place on Friday.
Someone forgot to update the static channel lists distributed with the program guide.
Users either have to wait for Microsoft to fix the problem, or manually edit the configuration files.
"
Reports indicate that the FCC received upwards of 300,000 calls on Friday from consumers seeking late help with the transition, but they were prepared, with over 4,000 operators available to handle problems.
The FCC's DTV website also had over 3 million hits on Friday.
Both phone and Internet traffic have now tapered off, and supplies of converter boxes appear to have held out just fine.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326903</id>
	<title>Re:I made the switch. I switched to OFF</title>
	<author>sponga</author>
	<datestamp>1244998980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are enjoying the outside world so much you came to post on Slashdot?</p><p>Where do you live that you have no UHF and can enjoy the outside world? Usually those two don't go hand in hand.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are enjoying the outside world so much you came to post on Slashdot ? Where do you live that you have no UHF and can enjoy the outside world ?
Usually those two do n't go hand in hand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are enjoying the outside world so much you came to post on Slashdot?Where do you live that you have no UHF and can enjoy the outside world?
Usually those two don't go hand in hand.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28332571</id>
	<title>Re:I was pleasantly surprised...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245096660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt; These actually can be quite interesting to browse --<br>&gt; the Russian take on the Iranian election was kind of interesting.<br><br>Ugh.  I don't even like watching election coverage from my own country.</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; These actually can be quite interesting to browse -- &gt; the Russian take on the Iranian election was kind of interesting.Ugh .
I do n't even like watching election coverage from my own country .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; These actually can be quite interesting to browse --&gt; the Russian take on the Iranian election was kind of interesting.Ugh.
I don't even like watching election coverage from my own country.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327667</id>
	<title>Re:Really Cool things happened.</title>
	<author>Titoxd</author>
	<datestamp>1245006000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's your <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-term\_Analog\_Flash\_and\_Emergency\_Readiness\_Act" title="wikipedia.org">analog nightlight</a> [wikipedia.org] at work...</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's your analog nightlight [ wikipedia.org ] at work.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's your analog nightlight [wikipedia.org] at work...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327465</id>
	<title>Re:Anecdote</title>
	<author>symbolic</author>
	<datestamp>1245004080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm wondering now - I have cable, but suddenly started seeing closed-captions for all of the programming. I've checked the TV settings, and the CC is off. At first I thought it was the the age of the TV showing, but now I wonder if it might have something to do with this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm wondering now - I have cable , but suddenly started seeing closed-captions for all of the programming .
I 've checked the TV settings , and the CC is off .
At first I thought it was the the age of the TV showing , but now I wonder if it might have something to do with this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm wondering now - I have cable, but suddenly started seeing closed-captions for all of the programming.
I've checked the TV settings, and the CC is off.
At first I thought it was the the age of the TV showing, but now I wonder if it might have something to do with this.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326501</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28330841</id>
	<title>Re:Only in Slashdot will a totally unrelated...</title>
	<author>arkhan\_jg</author>
	<datestamp>1244989680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The channel/program assignments come along with the guide data that's downloaded <i>from Microsoft</i>, as opposed to the info pulled off the air, like everybody else does it. So Microsoft screwed up the guide data they were distributing to DTV-using Media Centre users. I'm a DTV Media Centre user in another country, and I'd be kinda pissed if Microsoft screwed that up, breaking all DTV functions of media centre <i>and still hadn't fixed it.</i></p><p>But yeah, that's just completely unrelated Microsoft bashing. Christ, what an asshole.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The channel/program assignments come along with the guide data that 's downloaded from Microsoft , as opposed to the info pulled off the air , like everybody else does it .
So Microsoft screwed up the guide data they were distributing to DTV-using Media Centre users .
I 'm a DTV Media Centre user in another country , and I 'd be kinda pissed if Microsoft screwed that up , breaking all DTV functions of media centre and still had n't fixed it.But yeah , that 's just completely unrelated Microsoft bashing .
Christ , what an asshole .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The channel/program assignments come along with the guide data that's downloaded from Microsoft, as opposed to the info pulled off the air, like everybody else does it.
So Microsoft screwed up the guide data they were distributing to DTV-using Media Centre users.
I'm a DTV Media Centre user in another country, and I'd be kinda pissed if Microsoft screwed that up, breaking all DTV functions of media centre and still hadn't fixed it.But yeah, that's just completely unrelated Microsoft bashing.
Christ, what an asshole.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326833</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28330955</id>
	<title>Re:ClearQAM affected</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244991060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Fox has disappeared entirely from Comcast's ClearQAM selection since the switch.</p></div><p>This is a problem... how?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fox has disappeared entirely from Comcast 's ClearQAM selection since the switch.This is a problem... how ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fox has disappeared entirely from Comcast's ClearQAM selection since the switch.This is a problem... how?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328583</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326833</id>
	<title>Only in Slashdot will a totally unrelated...</title>
	<author>freedom\_india</author>
	<datestamp>1244998380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...discussion on something as mundane as Digital TV turn into Microsoft Bashing.<br>Its Incredible.<br>I mean we are discussing the transition from analog to digital TV and somehow the submitter thought to add his two cents in bashing up Microsoft.<br>MythTV has it.<br>Ubuntu has it.<br>BUT NO! He has to bash Microsoft.<br>What an asshole.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...discussion on something as mundane as Digital TV turn into Microsoft Bashing.Its Incredible.I mean we are discussing the transition from analog to digital TV and somehow the submitter thought to add his two cents in bashing up Microsoft.MythTV has it.Ubuntu has it.BUT NO !
He has to bash Microsoft.What an asshole .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...discussion on something as mundane as Digital TV turn into Microsoft Bashing.Its Incredible.I mean we are discussing the transition from analog to digital TV and somehow the submitter thought to add his two cents in bashing up Microsoft.MythTV has it.Ubuntu has it.BUT NO!
He has to bash Microsoft.What an asshole.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328877</id>
	<title>Re:Only in Slashdot will a totally unrelated...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244971620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dude, did you forget what site you're on?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , did you forget what site you 're on ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, did you forget what site you're on?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326833</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28331527</id>
	<title>Re:Progress</title>
	<author>vaporland</author>
	<datestamp>1244997060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, I live in Denver and we've been having tornadoes for about a week, off and on. The local NBC affiliate has three DTV channels: regular NBC, 24 hour weather and Universal Sports (which is pretty cool for free TV).<br> <br>Well, the tornado warning sirens in our neighborhood started going off today, so I tuned into the weather DTV channel to look at weather warning updates, and all I saw was jiggly pixels.<br> <br>Yeah, it seems that, unlike analog TV which in bad weather is snowy but viewable, the DTV signal was totally disrupted and useless until the sky cleared up.<br> <br>Good thing I didn't have a tornado in my neighborhood, 'cause the DTV early warning weather channel was worse than worthless.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I live in Denver and we 've been having tornadoes for about a week , off and on .
The local NBC affiliate has three DTV channels : regular NBC , 24 hour weather and Universal Sports ( which is pretty cool for free TV ) .
Well , the tornado warning sirens in our neighborhood started going off today , so I tuned into the weather DTV channel to look at weather warning updates , and all I saw was jiggly pixels .
Yeah , it seems that , unlike analog TV which in bad weather is snowy but viewable , the DTV signal was totally disrupted and useless until the sky cleared up .
Good thing I did n't have a tornado in my neighborhood , 'cause the DTV early warning weather channel was worse than worthless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I live in Denver and we've been having tornadoes for about a week, off and on.
The local NBC affiliate has three DTV channels: regular NBC, 24 hour weather and Universal Sports (which is pretty cool for free TV).
Well, the tornado warning sirens in our neighborhood started going off today, so I tuned into the weather DTV channel to look at weather warning updates, and all I saw was jiggly pixels.
Yeah, it seems that, unlike analog TV which in bad weather is snowy but viewable, the DTV signal was totally disrupted and useless until the sky cleared up.
Good thing I didn't have a tornado in my neighborhood, 'cause the DTV early warning weather channel was worse than worthless.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326537</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327423</id>
	<title>Re:Seriously, why should we care?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245003720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>RAAAAAAGE.

I'm sorry.  I just <i>had</i> to do it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>RAAAAAAGE .
I 'm sorry .
I just had to do it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RAAAAAAGE.
I'm sorry.
I just had to do it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326861</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28331849</id>
	<title>Windows Media Center Guide</title>
	<author>rsmith-mac</author>
	<datestamp>1245000660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually it wouldn't be MS that fixes anything. The guide data comes from Zap2It. If there's a guide data issue, then Zap2It is not listing the correct data.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually it would n't be MS that fixes anything .
The guide data comes from Zap2It .
If there 's a guide data issue , then Zap2It is not listing the correct data .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually it wouldn't be MS that fixes anything.
The guide data comes from Zap2It.
If there's a guide data issue, then Zap2It is not listing the correct data.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328491</id>
	<title>Re:Seriously, why should we care?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245012300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But honestly, how many millions of our tax dollars are being wasted on this "dear god we need to drop everything and help everyone switch because lord knows we can't trust them to handle their own affairs!" game? Seriously</p></div><p>Seriously?  The US made a net-profit.  The cost of the switch was less then the profit made from auctioning off the spectrum.</p><p>You can make an argument that this should have been more efficient so the US would have made *more* money, or that the US is bleeding money elsewhere needlessly, but this transition was actually beneficial for the majority of the tax-paying Americans.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But honestly , how many millions of our tax dollars are being wasted on this " dear god we need to drop everything and help everyone switch because lord knows we ca n't trust them to handle their own affairs !
" game ?
SeriouslySeriously ? The US made a net-profit .
The cost of the switch was less then the profit made from auctioning off the spectrum.You can make an argument that this should have been more efficient so the US would have made * more * money , or that the US is bleeding money elsewhere needlessly , but this transition was actually beneficial for the majority of the tax-paying Americans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But honestly, how many millions of our tax dollars are being wasted on this "dear god we need to drop everything and help everyone switch because lord knows we can't trust them to handle their own affairs!
" game?
SeriouslySeriously?  The US made a net-profit.
The cost of the switch was less then the profit made from auctioning off the spectrum.You can make an argument that this should have been more efficient so the US would have made *more* money, or that the US is bleeding money elsewhere needlessly, but this transition was actually beneficial for the majority of the tax-paying Americans.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326861</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328413</id>
	<title>Re:Anecdote</title>
	<author>VanessaE</author>
	<datestamp>1245011820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What drives me nuts is when stations just can't figure out the concept of letting the viewer's receiver and display hardware handle the task of properly displaying the video.</p><p>In my area, two of the 8 or so digital stations are broadcasting 16:9 1080i as their main channel, even when the programming is SD 4:3.  They scale the 480-line video up to 1080 lines, add black bars to the sides, and mark the stream as 16:9.  My display devices are all normal 4:3 or 5:4 ratio, like the vast majority of others in my area (and across the country, I suspect), so that means my receiving hardware has to add a second set of black bars (to the top/bottom) to resize that "16:9" stream to fit a normal screen.</p><p>Sure I could just use the zoom feature my boxes all have, but that means I have to sit there cycling through several zoom settings every time the ratio changes or I change channels.  In a real life setting, this becomes very annoying, so in this most common case, some 20\% of my screen space goes unused and the video looks "just OK" because of the doubled scaling (once by the broadcaster, and once by my display hardware).   The overall video quality also starts to suffer from compression artifacts (because of the wasted bandwidth from the pre-scaling).</p><p>To make matters worse, this area has frequent inclement weather, which necessitates adding a crawler and radar display over the pre-mutilated video.  If I zoom, I'll lose enough of the crawler that it becomes useless.</p><p>To compound the problem even further, the broadcaster will occasionally show a 16:9 program that was already letterboxed before they got their hands on it, which means a third set of bars is being added.  In the worst case, 60\% of my screen is wasted, the video is blurry from having been scaled down once by the content provider, up once by the broadcaster, and then up again by my display hardware. The crawler becomes almost blindingly sharp at times and more distracting than it should be compared to the rest of the video.</p><p>To top it all off, most of the 4:3 stuff the content providers are sending to the local broadcasters (here anyway) clearly comes from older NTSC video tape, or some other low-quality analog sources, and thus doesn't look any better in digital than it did in analog.  What's the point of all this SD-to-HD chazarai when the source looks like shit to start with?</p><p>All I ask is that the content providers and broadcasters start using high-quality media and broadcast the programming in whatever aspect ratio and resolution it was originally meant for, as is usually done with other MPEG2-based formats.  If a DVD can switch between 4:3 and 16:9 content freely, why can't a broadcaster do the same?</p><p>I brought this up (using much more pleasant language, of course) with both of the affected stations.  I was given an answer more or less equivalent to "Your comment has been noted.  Sucks to be you."</p><p>Real impressive people - it really makes me want to watch your stations.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What drives me nuts is when stations just ca n't figure out the concept of letting the viewer 's receiver and display hardware handle the task of properly displaying the video.In my area , two of the 8 or so digital stations are broadcasting 16 : 9 1080i as their main channel , even when the programming is SD 4 : 3 .
They scale the 480-line video up to 1080 lines , add black bars to the sides , and mark the stream as 16 : 9 .
My display devices are all normal 4 : 3 or 5 : 4 ratio , like the vast majority of others in my area ( and across the country , I suspect ) , so that means my receiving hardware has to add a second set of black bars ( to the top/bottom ) to resize that " 16 : 9 " stream to fit a normal screen.Sure I could just use the zoom feature my boxes all have , but that means I have to sit there cycling through several zoom settings every time the ratio changes or I change channels .
In a real life setting , this becomes very annoying , so in this most common case , some 20 \ % of my screen space goes unused and the video looks " just OK " because of the doubled scaling ( once by the broadcaster , and once by my display hardware ) .
The overall video quality also starts to suffer from compression artifacts ( because of the wasted bandwidth from the pre-scaling ) .To make matters worse , this area has frequent inclement weather , which necessitates adding a crawler and radar display over the pre-mutilated video .
If I zoom , I 'll lose enough of the crawler that it becomes useless.To compound the problem even further , the broadcaster will occasionally show a 16 : 9 program that was already letterboxed before they got their hands on it , which means a third set of bars is being added .
In the worst case , 60 \ % of my screen is wasted , the video is blurry from having been scaled down once by the content provider , up once by the broadcaster , and then up again by my display hardware .
The crawler becomes almost blindingly sharp at times and more distracting than it should be compared to the rest of the video.To top it all off , most of the 4 : 3 stuff the content providers are sending to the local broadcasters ( here anyway ) clearly comes from older NTSC video tape , or some other low-quality analog sources , and thus does n't look any better in digital than it did in analog .
What 's the point of all this SD-to-HD chazarai when the source looks like shit to start with ? All I ask is that the content providers and broadcasters start using high-quality media and broadcast the programming in whatever aspect ratio and resolution it was originally meant for , as is usually done with other MPEG2-based formats .
If a DVD can switch between 4 : 3 and 16 : 9 content freely , why ca n't a broadcaster do the same ? I brought this up ( using much more pleasant language , of course ) with both of the affected stations .
I was given an answer more or less equivalent to " Your comment has been noted .
Sucks to be you .
" Real impressive people - it really makes me want to watch your stations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What drives me nuts is when stations just can't figure out the concept of letting the viewer's receiver and display hardware handle the task of properly displaying the video.In my area, two of the 8 or so digital stations are broadcasting 16:9 1080i as their main channel, even when the programming is SD 4:3.
They scale the 480-line video up to 1080 lines, add black bars to the sides, and mark the stream as 16:9.
My display devices are all normal 4:3 or 5:4 ratio, like the vast majority of others in my area (and across the country, I suspect), so that means my receiving hardware has to add a second set of black bars (to the top/bottom) to resize that "16:9" stream to fit a normal screen.Sure I could just use the zoom feature my boxes all have, but that means I have to sit there cycling through several zoom settings every time the ratio changes or I change channels.
In a real life setting, this becomes very annoying, so in this most common case, some 20\% of my screen space goes unused and the video looks "just OK" because of the doubled scaling (once by the broadcaster, and once by my display hardware).
The overall video quality also starts to suffer from compression artifacts (because of the wasted bandwidth from the pre-scaling).To make matters worse, this area has frequent inclement weather, which necessitates adding a crawler and radar display over the pre-mutilated video.
If I zoom, I'll lose enough of the crawler that it becomes useless.To compound the problem even further, the broadcaster will occasionally show a 16:9 program that was already letterboxed before they got their hands on it, which means a third set of bars is being added.
In the worst case, 60\% of my screen is wasted, the video is blurry from having been scaled down once by the content provider, up once by the broadcaster, and then up again by my display hardware.
The crawler becomes almost blindingly sharp at times and more distracting than it should be compared to the rest of the video.To top it all off, most of the 4:3 stuff the content providers are sending to the local broadcasters (here anyway) clearly comes from older NTSC video tape, or some other low-quality analog sources, and thus doesn't look any better in digital than it did in analog.
What's the point of all this SD-to-HD chazarai when the source looks like shit to start with?All I ask is that the content providers and broadcasters start using high-quality media and broadcast the programming in whatever aspect ratio and resolution it was originally meant for, as is usually done with other MPEG2-based formats.
If a DVD can switch between 4:3 and 16:9 content freely, why can't a broadcaster do the same?I brought this up (using much more pleasant language, of course) with both of the affected stations.
I was given an answer more or less equivalent to "Your comment has been noted.
Sucks to be you.
"Real impressive people - it really makes me want to watch your stations.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326595</id>
	<title>Why can't windows media player scan of channels?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244995440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why can't windows media player scan of channels?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ca n't windows media player scan of channels ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why can't windows media player scan of channels?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326519</id>
	<title>It Worked</title>
	<author>Surbius</author>
	<datestamp>1244994420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I must say, a federal government agency actually worked; albeit to the tune of two billion dollars.</p><p>One can only wonder what one-thousand billion dollars can do.</p><p>[/sarcasm]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I must say , a federal government agency actually worked ; albeit to the tune of two billion dollars.One can only wonder what one-thousand billion dollars can do .
[ /sarcasm ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I must say, a federal government agency actually worked; albeit to the tune of two billion dollars.One can only wonder what one-thousand billion dollars can do.
[/sarcasm]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328135</id>
	<title>Re:"Idiot box" is Green's favorite derogatory term</title>
	<author>paralaxcreations</author>
	<datestamp>1245009840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know it's a joke (duh, The Onion), but being a resident of Chapel Hill, I do believe I met that guy. At least 5 times a day.</p><p>Really, the population here is about 60\% (obligatory made up percentage) people who don't watch TV and are (a little too) proud of it. As much as I love the people here, this breed is really f-ing annoying.</p><p>Granted, some of these people are the same people who will light bonfires just to jump over them whenever UNC wins a basketball game - the others are mostly townies who spend "prime time" tv hours getting wasted at one of the myriad local bars, so everything with a grain of salt, I suppose.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know it 's a joke ( duh , The Onion ) , but being a resident of Chapel Hill , I do believe I met that guy .
At least 5 times a day.Really , the population here is about 60 \ % ( obligatory made up percentage ) people who do n't watch TV and are ( a little too ) proud of it .
As much as I love the people here , this breed is really f-ing annoying.Granted , some of these people are the same people who will light bonfires just to jump over them whenever UNC wins a basketball game - the others are mostly townies who spend " prime time " tv hours getting wasted at one of the myriad local bars , so everything with a grain of salt , I suppose .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know it's a joke (duh, The Onion), but being a resident of Chapel Hill, I do believe I met that guy.
At least 5 times a day.Really, the population here is about 60\% (obligatory made up percentage) people who don't watch TV and are (a little too) proud of it.
As much as I love the people here, this breed is really f-ing annoying.Granted, some of these people are the same people who will light bonfires just to jump over them whenever UNC wins a basketball game - the others are mostly townies who spend "prime time" tv hours getting wasted at one of the myriad local bars, so everything with a grain of salt, I suppose.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326621</id>
	<title>Really Cool things happened.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244995680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I no longer receive a couple of local channels that were cheap bastards and did not buy a new transmitter,  but now I get Green Bay channel 2 and Channel 22 out of South bend.</p><p>The weird part is that there are a couple of stations still broadcasting analog and normal programming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I no longer receive a couple of local channels that were cheap bastards and did not buy a new transmitter , but now I get Green Bay channel 2 and Channel 22 out of South bend.The weird part is that there are a couple of stations still broadcasting analog and normal programming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I no longer receive a couple of local channels that were cheap bastards and did not buy a new transmitter,  but now I get Green Bay channel 2 and Channel 22 out of South bend.The weird part is that there are a couple of stations still broadcasting analog and normal programming.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28329815</id>
	<title>Re:Anecdote</title>
	<author>davidphogan74</author>
	<datestamp>1244979540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd be more annoyed if they switched all the time, since my HDTV takes a second to switch modes.  Also, my TV seems to record the mode each station broadcasts in, so that would probably confuse the hell out of it as well.

<br> <br>Sorry that they can't please all the people all the time, but on my old 4:3 TV I have no problem zooming in (and not missing any of the picture.)  It sounds like your receiver may be more of the problem if it's cropping part of the picture.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd be more annoyed if they switched all the time , since my HDTV takes a second to switch modes .
Also , my TV seems to record the mode each station broadcasts in , so that would probably confuse the hell out of it as well .
Sorry that they ca n't please all the people all the time , but on my old 4 : 3 TV I have no problem zooming in ( and not missing any of the picture .
) It sounds like your receiver may be more of the problem if it 's cropping part of the picture .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd be more annoyed if they switched all the time, since my HDTV takes a second to switch modes.
Also, my TV seems to record the mode each station broadcasts in, so that would probably confuse the hell out of it as well.
Sorry that they can't please all the people all the time, but on my old 4:3 TV I have no problem zooming in (and not missing any of the picture.
)  It sounds like your receiver may be more of the problem if it's cropping part of the picture.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28335035</id>
	<title>better reception w/ home made antenna</title>
	<author>WillAdams</author>
	<datestamp>1245080100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After the local PBS affiliate reduced their signal strength I had to make an antenna to get a signal:</p><p><a href="http://current.org/ptv/ptv0821make.pdf" title="current.org">http://current.org/ptv/ptv0821make.pdf</a> [current.org]</p><p>Anyone who is having reception difficulties who hasn't tried an antenna specifically designed for digital reception might want to consider it.</p><p>William</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After the local PBS affiliate reduced their signal strength I had to make an antenna to get a signal : http : //current.org/ptv/ptv0821make.pdf [ current.org ] Anyone who is having reception difficulties who has n't tried an antenna specifically designed for digital reception might want to consider it.William</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After the local PBS affiliate reduced their signal strength I had to make an antenna to get a signal:http://current.org/ptv/ptv0821make.pdf [current.org]Anyone who is having reception difficulties who hasn't tried an antenna specifically designed for digital reception might want to consider it.William</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28332635</id>
	<title>Re:Seriously, why should we care?</title>
	<author>jonadab</author>
	<datestamp>1245097440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt; Why should we care [whether people upgrade their ability to watch]?<br>&gt; It's only television.<br><br>Because, if people stop watching television, they might inadvertently start thinking for themselves.  For a lot of elected government officials, that's a nightmare scenario.</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Why should we care [ whether people upgrade their ability to watch ] ? &gt; It 's only television.Because , if people stop watching television , they might inadvertently start thinking for themselves .
For a lot of elected government officials , that 's a nightmare scenario .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Why should we care [whether people upgrade their ability to watch]?&gt; It's only television.Because, if people stop watching television, they might inadvertently start thinking for themselves.
For a lot of elected government officials, that's a nightmare scenario.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28329909</id>
	<title>Re:I lost several channels. :(</title>
	<author>Pinky3</author>
	<datestamp>1244980500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I had most of the channels working on both analog and digital before the change. But now, I lost them due to VHF and DB2 bowtie antenna. Both rabbit ears and bowtie separately can't get all stations like KTTV 11, etc. Funny how all transmitters are in one location but yet I have to rotate, tilt, etc. my Terk rabbit ears. I never had to do that with my DB2 antenna before the 12th.</p> </div><p>Your digital KTTV was on UHF channel 65; it is now on VHF channel 11.  I have lost mine as well.  The DB2 is great for all the UHF channels, but not so good for the VHF.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had most of the channels working on both analog and digital before the change .
But now , I lost them due to VHF and DB2 bowtie antenna .
Both rabbit ears and bowtie separately ca n't get all stations like KTTV 11 , etc .
Funny how all transmitters are in one location but yet I have to rotate , tilt , etc .
my Terk rabbit ears .
I never had to do that with my DB2 antenna before the 12th .
Your digital KTTV was on UHF channel 65 ; it is now on VHF channel 11 .
I have lost mine as well .
The DB2 is great for all the UHF channels , but not so good for the VHF .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had most of the channels working on both analog and digital before the change.
But now, I lost them due to VHF and DB2 bowtie antenna.
Both rabbit ears and bowtie separately can't get all stations like KTTV 11, etc.
Funny how all transmitters are in one location but yet I have to rotate, tilt, etc.
my Terk rabbit ears.
I never had to do that with my DB2 antenna before the 12th.
Your digital KTTV was on UHF channel 65; it is now on VHF channel 11.
I have lost mine as well.
The DB2 is great for all the UHF channels, but not so good for the VHF.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327675</id>
	<title>Re:Why can't windows media player scan of channels</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245006060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I know! AND <b>then</b> I accidentally <i>the whole thing</i>!!1!1oneone1</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know !
AND then I accidentally the whole thing !
! 1 ! 1oneone1</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know!
AND then I accidentally the whole thing!
!1!1oneone1</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327441</id>
	<title>Re:Seriously, why should we care?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245003900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>And it pisses me off. These people don't need pampering. Let them flounder. Maybe it'll force them to learn something about the world, even if it's just some tiny inconsequential thing that they need to hook up to get their fucking idiot box working again.</p></div></blockquote><p>Translation: I'm better than them, even though I lack the skills or intelligence to express my point without profanity, rants, insults, and belittlement.  Really, I'm better than them!  I'll even explain why.  Someday.  Somehow.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And it pisses me off .
These people do n't need pampering .
Let them flounder .
Maybe it 'll force them to learn something about the world , even if it 's just some tiny inconsequential thing that they need to hook up to get their fucking idiot box working again.Translation : I 'm better than them , even though I lack the skills or intelligence to express my point without profanity , rants , insults , and belittlement .
Really , I 'm better than them !
I 'll even explain why .
Someday. Somehow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And it pisses me off.
These people don't need pampering.
Let them flounder.
Maybe it'll force them to learn something about the world, even if it's just some tiny inconsequential thing that they need to hook up to get their fucking idiot box working again.Translation: I'm better than them, even though I lack the skills or intelligence to express my point without profanity, rants, insults, and belittlement.
Really, I'm better than them!
I'll even explain why.
Someday.  Somehow.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28368575</id>
	<title>Re:Anecdote</title>
	<author>skeeto</author>
	<datestamp>1245249120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've noticed that a lot of DVDs are poorly mastered the same way, where the letterboxing is encoded right into the video. Take a 16:9 movie/show, add letterboxing to make it 4:3, then watch it on my widescreen monitor where two more black bars are added on the sides (I fix this by having VLC or mplayer crop the letterboxing during playback).</p><p>It's one of the several reasons I haven't bought any DVDs in several years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've noticed that a lot of DVDs are poorly mastered the same way , where the letterboxing is encoded right into the video .
Take a 16 : 9 movie/show , add letterboxing to make it 4 : 3 , then watch it on my widescreen monitor where two more black bars are added on the sides ( I fix this by having VLC or mplayer crop the letterboxing during playback ) .It 's one of the several reasons I have n't bought any DVDs in several years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've noticed that a lot of DVDs are poorly mastered the same way, where the letterboxing is encoded right into the video.
Take a 16:9 movie/show, add letterboxing to make it 4:3, then watch it on my widescreen monitor where two more black bars are added on the sides (I fix this by having VLC or mplayer crop the letterboxing during playback).It's one of the several reasons I haven't bought any DVDs in several years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28330917</id>
	<title>Re:I lost several channels. :(</title>
	<author>ghostis</author>
	<datestamp>1244990640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Build one of these.  Made a huge difference for me when I switched in Spring of 2008.  I used steel picture wire.  Other's have used copper wire, aluminum wire, or copper piping.  It's directional so make sure you build it to be movable.</p><p><a href="http://www.digitalhome.ca/ota/superantenna/design.htm" title="digitalhome.ca">http://www.digitalhome.ca/ota/superantenna/design.htm</a> [digitalhome.ca]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Build one of these .
Made a huge difference for me when I switched in Spring of 2008 .
I used steel picture wire .
Other 's have used copper wire , aluminum wire , or copper piping .
It 's directional so make sure you build it to be movable.http : //www.digitalhome.ca/ota/superantenna/design.htm [ digitalhome.ca ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Build one of these.
Made a huge difference for me when I switched in Spring of 2008.
I used steel picture wire.
Other's have used copper wire, aluminum wire, or copper piping.
It's directional so make sure you build it to be movable.http://www.digitalhome.ca/ota/superantenna/design.htm [digitalhome.ca]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327841</id>
	<title>I lost several channels. :(</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245007740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had most of the channels working on both analog and digital before the change. But now, I lost them due to VHF and DB2 bowtie antenna. Both rabbit ears and bowtie separately can't get all stations like KTTV 11, etc. Funny how all transmitters are in one location but yet I have to rotate, tilt, etc. my Terk rabbit ears. I never had to do that with my DB2 antenna before the 12th.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p><p>People think it is my old <a href="http://www.bbti.us/products\_air2pc\_atsc\_pci.htm" title="www.bbti.us">Air2PC HDTV tuner cards</a> [www.bbti.us] (2005) due to third generation vs. the newer ones. I really don't want to have to spend money to buy new cards nor buy cable/sattelite (subscriptions suck and am not rich). I also can't put an antenna on the roof and in the attic since owners refuse and I am disabled to do it myself.</p><p>Bah.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had most of the channels working on both analog and digital before the change .
But now , I lost them due to VHF and DB2 bowtie antenna .
Both rabbit ears and bowtie separately ca n't get all stations like KTTV 11 , etc .
Funny how all transmitters are in one location but yet I have to rotate , tilt , etc .
my Terk rabbit ears .
I never had to do that with my DB2 antenna before the 12th .
: ( People think it is my old Air2PC HDTV tuner cards [ www.bbti.us ] ( 2005 ) due to third generation vs. the newer ones .
I really do n't want to have to spend money to buy new cards nor buy cable/sattelite ( subscriptions suck and am not rich ) .
I also ca n't put an antenna on the roof and in the attic since owners refuse and I am disabled to do it myself.Bah .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had most of the channels working on both analog and digital before the change.
But now, I lost them due to VHF and DB2 bowtie antenna.
Both rabbit ears and bowtie separately can't get all stations like KTTV 11, etc.
Funny how all transmitters are in one location but yet I have to rotate, tilt, etc.
my Terk rabbit ears.
I never had to do that with my DB2 antenna before the 12th.
:(People think it is my old Air2PC HDTV tuner cards [www.bbti.us] (2005) due to third generation vs. the newer ones.
I really don't want to have to spend money to buy new cards nor buy cable/sattelite (subscriptions suck and am not rich).
I also can't put an antenna on the roof and in the attic since owners refuse and I am disabled to do it myself.Bah.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28329247</id>
	<title>Re:Progress (for the suburbs)</title>
	<author>ottothecow</author>
	<datestamp>1244974020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>They've essentially turned off public television, and sold the profits to the highest bidder.</i> <p>

I dont buy your argument.  They changed the standard, they didnt turn off public access to OTA TV.  Yes, there is a period where everything has to get sorted out but in 5 years, the signal strength issues will be sorted out, everyone will have a digital tuner, and the young teenagers who are being roped into fixing grandma's TV won't even remember a time when it was analog.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 've essentially turned off public television , and sold the profits to the highest bidder .
I dont buy your argument .
They changed the standard , they didnt turn off public access to OTA TV .
Yes , there is a period where everything has to get sorted out but in 5 years , the signal strength issues will be sorted out , everyone will have a digital tuner , and the young teenagers who are being roped into fixing grandma 's TV wo n't even remember a time when it was analog .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They've essentially turned off public television, and sold the profits to the highest bidder.
I dont buy your argument.
They changed the standard, they didnt turn off public access to OTA TV.
Yes, there is a period where everything has to get sorted out but in 5 years, the signal strength issues will be sorted out, everyone will have a digital tuner, and the young teenagers who are being roped into fixing grandma's TV won't even remember a time when it was analog.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326667</id>
	<title>Re:Progress</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244996580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's kind of funny you mention that.  Oh that high quality is nice, if you don't mind the blocks, and audio dropping out.  For all those years of the CRTC worrying about "Canadian Content" and FTA, the Americans solved the problem overnight.</p><p>My grandmother who lives in the middle of no-where Ontario, about 20mins from any major city, and 1.5hrs from Detroit/Buffalo/Port Huron lost all of the normal stations she used to get.  NBC(Erie), ABC(Somewhere in PA) and CBS somewhere, along with PBS(Erie), and Fox(Toledo), a couple of other PBS stations, and a few others. Now the new stations Fox(Erie-ish), ABC(Detroit), ABC(Another in the Michigan area), and a CBS station somewhere in Michigan.  No PBS or NBC stations at all.</p><p>Well I suppose that's fine, she's tech-savvy and understand this stuff.  It's more of an irritation that what she did get, she no longer does.  And what she does get, is in some cases poorer quality.  And the first person to say satellite gets a beanbag to the head, for some reason the CRTC has something against US dishes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's kind of funny you mention that .
Oh that high quality is nice , if you do n't mind the blocks , and audio dropping out .
For all those years of the CRTC worrying about " Canadian Content " and FTA , the Americans solved the problem overnight.My grandmother who lives in the middle of no-where Ontario , about 20mins from any major city , and 1.5hrs from Detroit/Buffalo/Port Huron lost all of the normal stations she used to get .
NBC ( Erie ) , ABC ( Somewhere in PA ) and CBS somewhere , along with PBS ( Erie ) , and Fox ( Toledo ) , a couple of other PBS stations , and a few others .
Now the new stations Fox ( Erie-ish ) , ABC ( Detroit ) , ABC ( Another in the Michigan area ) , and a CBS station somewhere in Michigan .
No PBS or NBC stations at all.Well I suppose that 's fine , she 's tech-savvy and understand this stuff .
It 's more of an irritation that what she did get , she no longer does .
And what she does get , is in some cases poorer quality .
And the first person to say satellite gets a beanbag to the head , for some reason the CRTC has something against US dishes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's kind of funny you mention that.
Oh that high quality is nice, if you don't mind the blocks, and audio dropping out.
For all those years of the CRTC worrying about "Canadian Content" and FTA, the Americans solved the problem overnight.My grandmother who lives in the middle of no-where Ontario, about 20mins from any major city, and 1.5hrs from Detroit/Buffalo/Port Huron lost all of the normal stations she used to get.
NBC(Erie), ABC(Somewhere in PA) and CBS somewhere, along with PBS(Erie), and Fox(Toledo), a couple of other PBS stations, and a few others.
Now the new stations Fox(Erie-ish), ABC(Detroit), ABC(Another in the Michigan area), and a CBS station somewhere in Michigan.
No PBS or NBC stations at all.Well I suppose that's fine, she's tech-savvy and understand this stuff.
It's more of an irritation that what she did get, she no longer does.
And what she does get, is in some cases poorer quality.
And the first person to say satellite gets a beanbag to the head, for some reason the CRTC has something against US dishes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326607</id>
	<title>TV went to snow</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1244995560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And i just thought it was because i had comcast and it rained.. Go figure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And i just thought it was because i had comcast and it rained.. Go figure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And i just thought it was because i had comcast and it rained.. Go figure.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327189</id>
	<title>Re:It Worked</title>
	<author>iluvcapra</author>
	<datestamp>1245001260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think they made something like $18 billion on the VHF auction so they're still ahead.

They probably could have done better still if they had made prospective buyers bid a rental fee for the spectrum license, or a percentage of their revenue, and both would have increased the participation of small players, but I guess that's a bad thing to some people.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think they made something like $ 18 billion on the VHF auction so they 're still ahead .
They probably could have done better still if they had made prospective buyers bid a rental fee for the spectrum license , or a percentage of their revenue , and both would have increased the participation of small players , but I guess that 's a bad thing to some people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think they made something like $18 billion on the VHF auction so they're still ahead.
They probably could have done better still if they had made prospective buyers bid a rental fee for the spectrum license, or a percentage of their revenue, and both would have increased the participation of small players, but I guess that's a bad thing to some people.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327549</id>
	<title>Re:Seriously, why should we care?</title>
	<author>artor3</author>
	<datestamp>1245004800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because poor people, and non-English speakers, are getting screwed over so that corporations can squeeze some money out of what once belonged to the public.</p><p>It's nice that you don't watch TV.  If I were closer, I'd give you a gold star.  Lots of other people do watch TV though, and they're pissed about having that taken away for no good reason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because poor people , and non-English speakers , are getting screwed over so that corporations can squeeze some money out of what once belonged to the public.It 's nice that you do n't watch TV .
If I were closer , I 'd give you a gold star .
Lots of other people do watch TV though , and they 're pissed about having that taken away for no good reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because poor people, and non-English speakers, are getting screwed over so that corporations can squeeze some money out of what once belonged to the public.It's nice that you don't watch TV.
If I were closer, I'd give you a gold star.
Lots of other people do watch TV though, and they're pissed about having that taken away for no good reason.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328161</id>
	<title>Re:Progress</title>
	<author>ran-o-matic</author>
	<datestamp>1245009900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't care who you are, thats funny! I wish I had a mod point or two.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't care who you are , thats funny !
I wish I had a mod point or two .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't care who you are, thats funny!
I wish I had a mod point or two.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327935</id>
	<title>Re:Really Cool things happened.</title>
	<author>Rick17JJ</author>
	<datestamp>1245008460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am still getting 7 analog channels and only one digital channel.  I live near Prescott, Arizona and my television signals come from a rural translator station on Mt. Francis, between here and Phoenix.  My understanding, is that low-power stations and rural relay stations known as "translators" are not required to make the change.</p><p>One of my two very old TVs has a converter box.  With the converter box on, the only channel that I get is the FOX network KSAZ DT 10.1 digital channel.  When I connect the rabbit ears antenna directly to the TV, without the converter box, I get the other 5 to 7 analog channels instead. Two of the channels are very weak and are only usable on some days.</p><p>I had my converter box rescan for new digital channels again today, but it did not find any new ones.</p><p>Some nearby hills, block my reception of the other digital station on Mingus Mountain.</p><p>My other TV is an early 1990s model, which is also still working just fine, connected directly to the rabbit ears antenna, with no DVD player or VCR.  Both of my TVs are way too old, to have a built in ATSC digital TV tuner.The digital transition has not yet happend here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am still getting 7 analog channels and only one digital channel .
I live near Prescott , Arizona and my television signals come from a rural translator station on Mt .
Francis , between here and Phoenix .
My understanding , is that low-power stations and rural relay stations known as " translators " are not required to make the change.One of my two very old TVs has a converter box .
With the converter box on , the only channel that I get is the FOX network KSAZ DT 10.1 digital channel .
When I connect the rabbit ears antenna directly to the TV , without the converter box , I get the other 5 to 7 analog channels instead .
Two of the channels are very weak and are only usable on some days.I had my converter box rescan for new digital channels again today , but it did not find any new ones.Some nearby hills , block my reception of the other digital station on Mingus Mountain.My other TV is an early 1990s model , which is also still working just fine , connected directly to the rabbit ears antenna , with no DVD player or VCR .
Both of my TVs are way too old , to have a built in ATSC digital TV tuner.The digital transition has not yet happend here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am still getting 7 analog channels and only one digital channel.
I live near Prescott, Arizona and my television signals come from a rural translator station on Mt.
Francis, between here and Phoenix.
My understanding, is that low-power stations and rural relay stations known as "translators" are not required to make the change.One of my two very old TVs has a converter box.
With the converter box on, the only channel that I get is the FOX network KSAZ DT 10.1 digital channel.
When I connect the rabbit ears antenna directly to the TV, without the converter box, I get the other 5 to 7 analog channels instead.
Two of the channels are very weak and are only usable on some days.I had my converter box rescan for new digital channels again today, but it did not find any new ones.Some nearby hills, block my reception of the other digital station on Mingus Mountain.My other TV is an early 1990s model, which is also still working just fine, connected directly to the rabbit ears antenna, with no DVD player or VCR.
Both of my TVs are way too old, to have a built in ATSC digital TV tuner.The digital transition has not yet happend here.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326499</id>
	<title>Unprepaired?</title>
	<author>mcfatboy93</author>
	<datestamp>1244994180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Friday from consumers seeking late help with the transition, but they were prepared, with over 4,000 operators available to handle problems</p></div><p> ok can i say that it was the FCC who delayed the whole thing because the people would be unprepared.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Friday from consumers seeking late help with the transition , but they were prepared , with over 4,000 operators available to handle problems ok can i say that it was the FCC who delayed the whole thing because the people would be unprepared .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Friday from consumers seeking late help with the transition, but they were prepared, with over 4,000 operators available to handle problems ok can i say that it was the FCC who delayed the whole thing because the people would be unprepared.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28337405</id>
	<title>Re:I lost several channels. :(</title>
	<author>el\_gato\_borracho</author>
	<datestamp>1245090600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Try building one of *these*: simpler, much smaller, works very well for me:
<a href="http://tvantennaplans.com/" title="tvantennaplans.com" rel="nofollow">http://tvantennaplans.com/</a> [tvantennaplans.com]
Tip: mine works fine without the reflectors: it is just the board and coat hanger wires.
I ran a coax from the TV up into my attic, where I have the antenna hanging by a nail.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Try building one of * these * : simpler , much smaller , works very well for me : http : //tvantennaplans.com/ [ tvantennaplans.com ] Tip : mine works fine without the reflectors : it is just the board and coat hanger wires .
I ran a coax from the TV up into my attic , where I have the antenna hanging by a nail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try building one of *these*: simpler, much smaller, works very well for me:
http://tvantennaplans.com/ [tvantennaplans.com]
Tip: mine works fine without the reflectors: it is just the board and coat hanger wires.
I ran a coax from the TV up into my attic, where I have the antenna hanging by a nail.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327725</id>
	<title>Re:Digital went to shit when analogue died</title>
	<author>Titoxd</author>
	<datestamp>1245006720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Make sure you rescanned the box after yesterday. TV stations were switching from their temporary ATSC frequencies (typically UHF) to their permanent frequencies (which may or may not be the same) throughout the day on Saturday. If it doesn't fix it, check <a href="http://www.fcc.gov/mb/engineering/maps/" title="fcc.gov">http://www.fcc.gov/mb/engineering/maps/</a> [fcc.gov] and see if the channels are still available in your area (weak signals will probably will not be received, unless you have a badass antenna)...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Make sure you rescanned the box after yesterday .
TV stations were switching from their temporary ATSC frequencies ( typically UHF ) to their permanent frequencies ( which may or may not be the same ) throughout the day on Saturday .
If it does n't fix it , check http : //www.fcc.gov/mb/engineering/maps/ [ fcc.gov ] and see if the channels are still available in your area ( weak signals will probably will not be received , unless you have a badass antenna ) .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make sure you rescanned the box after yesterday.
TV stations were switching from their temporary ATSC frequencies (typically UHF) to their permanent frequencies (which may or may not be the same) throughout the day on Saturday.
If it doesn't fix it, check http://www.fcc.gov/mb/engineering/maps/ [fcc.gov] and see if the channels are still available in your area (weak signals will probably will not be received, unless you have a badass antenna)...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326961</id>
	<title>Re:It Worked</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1244999520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I must say, a federal government agency actually worked; albeit to the tune of two billion dollars.</i> </p><p>The spectrum sale was quite successful from the government's point of view.</p><p>The migration to digital frees a lot of space for other uses - and the geek - the techie - directly and indirectly is quite obviously one of the prime beneficiaries.</p><p>Since he rarely admits to ever watching broadcast TV - I am not quite sure what he is complaining about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I must say , a federal government agency actually worked ; albeit to the tune of two billion dollars .
The spectrum sale was quite successful from the government 's point of view.The migration to digital frees a lot of space for other uses - and the geek - the techie - directly and indirectly is quite obviously one of the prime beneficiaries.Since he rarely admits to ever watching broadcast TV - I am not quite sure what he is complaining about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I must say, a federal government agency actually worked; albeit to the tune of two billion dollars.
The spectrum sale was quite successful from the government's point of view.The migration to digital frees a lot of space for other uses - and the geek - the techie - directly and indirectly is quite obviously one of the prime beneficiaries.Since he rarely admits to ever watching broadcast TV - I am not quite sure what he is complaining about.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327495</id>
	<title>Re:Progress (for the suburbs)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245004320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Living out in the country, I now only get 5 channels.  Three are in Spanish, one seems to be non-stop evangelical sermons, and the last one is my local TV station.  Also, the image frequently stutters, goes to a black "no signal screen", and comes back a minute or two later.  It's completely unwatchable.</p><p>Yes, I've tried getting a better antenna, but website I've checked out indicate I would need a huge, expensive, directional one to have even a chance of getting good signal.</p><p>They've essentially turned off public television, and sold the profits to the highest bidder.  At least I still have Hulu.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Living out in the country , I now only get 5 channels .
Three are in Spanish , one seems to be non-stop evangelical sermons , and the last one is my local TV station .
Also , the image frequently stutters , goes to a black " no signal screen " , and comes back a minute or two later .
It 's completely unwatchable.Yes , I 've tried getting a better antenna , but website I 've checked out indicate I would need a huge , expensive , directional one to have even a chance of getting good signal.They 've essentially turned off public television , and sold the profits to the highest bidder .
At least I still have Hulu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Living out in the country, I now only get 5 channels.
Three are in Spanish, one seems to be non-stop evangelical sermons, and the last one is my local TV station.
Also, the image frequently stutters, goes to a black "no signal screen", and comes back a minute or two later.
It's completely unwatchable.Yes, I've tried getting a better antenna, but website I've checked out indicate I would need a huge, expensive, directional one to have even a chance of getting good signal.They've essentially turned off public television, and sold the profits to the highest bidder.
At least I still have Hulu.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28329943</id>
	<title>Re:Anecdote</title>
	<author>Pinky3</author>
	<datestamp>1244980860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why a large, sparsely populated country of ~300 million people would decide to do the switch-over all at once I can't figure out. Maybe THAT'S the easier way and the UK is doing it awkwardly, but it just doesn't seem like that to me.</p></div><p>The switch over to digital was months ago for most stations in most markets.  The only thing that happened on Friday was that the analog transmitters were turned off. I don't know of any channel that turned on its digital transmitter for the first time Friday.   The converter boxes worked last week, and they still work now.  For those stations who kept broadcasting digital on the same channels as they did last week, nothing changed (digitally).  However, I have lost several channels that moved on Friday from their previous UHF frequencies to VHF frequencies.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why a large , sparsely populated country of ~ 300 million people would decide to do the switch-over all at once I ca n't figure out .
Maybe THAT 'S the easier way and the UK is doing it awkwardly , but it just does n't seem like that to me.The switch over to digital was months ago for most stations in most markets .
The only thing that happened on Friday was that the analog transmitters were turned off .
I do n't know of any channel that turned on its digital transmitter for the first time Friday .
The converter boxes worked last week , and they still work now .
For those stations who kept broadcasting digital on the same channels as they did last week , nothing changed ( digitally ) .
However , I have lost several channels that moved on Friday from their previous UHF frequencies to VHF frequencies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why a large, sparsely populated country of ~300 million people would decide to do the switch-over all at once I can't figure out.
Maybe THAT'S the easier way and the UK is doing it awkwardly, but it just doesn't seem like that to me.The switch over to digital was months ago for most stations in most markets.
The only thing that happened on Friday was that the analog transmitters were turned off.
I don't know of any channel that turned on its digital transmitter for the first time Friday.
The converter boxes worked last week, and they still work now.
For those stations who kept broadcasting digital on the same channels as they did last week, nothing changed (digitally).
However, I have lost several channels that moved on Friday from their previous UHF frequencies to VHF frequencies.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327417</id>
	<title>Digital went to shit when analogue died</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245003600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here at my house in  St. Paul MN I went from having about 18 digital channels before the transition to 12 now. I thought when they dropped analogue most broadcasters were going to boost their power. Instead it seems the opposite has happened, here at least. I'm pretty unhappy that I can't seem to get a signal from towers that are less than 20 miles away. If this is how it will stay than must say I wish we had stayed analogue .</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here at my house in St. Paul MN I went from having about 18 digital channels before the transition to 12 now .
I thought when they dropped analogue most broadcasters were going to boost their power .
Instead it seems the opposite has happened , here at least .
I 'm pretty unhappy that I ca n't seem to get a signal from towers that are less than 20 miles away .
If this is how it will stay than must say I wish we had stayed analogue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here at my house in  St. Paul MN I went from having about 18 digital channels before the transition to 12 now.
I thought when they dropped analogue most broadcasters were going to boost their power.
Instead it seems the opposite has happened, here at least.
I'm pretty unhappy that I can't seem to get a signal from towers that are less than 20 miles away.
If this is how it will stay than must say I wish we had stayed analogue .</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327687</id>
	<title>Re:Seriously, why should we care?</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1245006240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They are actually forcing people into a choice between spending money and/or effort to watch TV (they DID offer coupons; I didn't even know about the coupon program until after it was over <em>twice</em> (okay, I heard about the extension, but forgot to get one) because I don't actually watch TV. I just thought it would be cool to have one, in case I needed it for my second TV; my new TV has a digital tuner.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are actually forcing people into a choice between spending money and/or effort to watch TV ( they DID offer coupons ; I did n't even know about the coupon program until after it was over twice ( okay , I heard about the extension , but forgot to get one ) because I do n't actually watch TV .
I just thought it would be cool to have one , in case I needed it for my second TV ; my new TV has a digital tuner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are actually forcing people into a choice between spending money and/or effort to watch TV (they DID offer coupons; I didn't even know about the coupon program until after it was over twice (okay, I heard about the extension, but forgot to get one) because I don't actually watch TV.
I just thought it would be cool to have one, in case I needed it for my second TV; my new TV has a digital tuner.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328901</id>
	<title>Re:Only in Slashdot will a totally unrelated...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244971800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>     ***BUT***, MythTV, and the other DTV tuners available for Ubuntu, have a "rescan" function (in ADDITION to being able to manually edit the files).  They don't have a ridiculous situation of the MCE, where you can't rescan but Microsoft doesn't update the info either.  This is a legitimate reason to bash Microsoft.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* * * BUT * * * , MythTV , and the other DTV tuners available for Ubuntu , have a " rescan " function ( in ADDITION to being able to manually edit the files ) .
They do n't have a ridiculous situation of the MCE , where you ca n't rescan but Microsoft does n't update the info either .
This is a legitimate reason to bash Microsoft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>     ***BUT***, MythTV, and the other DTV tuners available for Ubuntu, have a "rescan" function (in ADDITION to being able to manually edit the files).
They don't have a ridiculous situation of the MCE, where you can't rescan but Microsoft doesn't update the info either.
This is a legitimate reason to bash Microsoft.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326861</id>
	<title>Seriously, why should we care?</title>
	<author>Zero\_DgZ</author>
	<datestamp>1244998740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I "get" the background and the technological reasons to switch to digital TV and all that. But honestly, how many millions of our tax dollars are being wasted on this "dear god we need to drop everything and help everyone switch because lord knows we can't trust them to handle their own affairs!" game? Seriously. Why should we care? It's only television.</p><p>Having to hear every four seconds about how it's going to be some kind of goddamned tragedy because some portion of lazy motherfuckers sitting on a couch somewhere can't be arsed to replace or upgrade their own equipment (or get someone to do it for them!) when we've been listening to the same goddamned twitter about this switch for <i>three fucking years</i> is really wearing thin. Now we're going to have to hear three more years of whining about how the new digital TV is no good, so-and-so can't get such-and-such channel anymore, and woe is me, my reception sucks now. I have a better idea: Why don't we just turn the whole thing the fuck off? I quit watching TV when I was a teenager and honestly, my life hasn't been any less enriched because of it. I have a TV, but it's an old analog one that I use as a monitor for my game consoles. I don't have cable, I don't have a converter box, and I don't even have a damn antenna for the thing. I don't care, and I don't see why anyone else should care enough to be treating this like some kind of disaster.</p><p>Way back when this digital switchover was announced in the first place I held the vain hope that some portion of people might wake up and decide to do something else with themselves instead of park in front of their (soon to be useless) TV. Like, I dunno. Read a book. Learn some stuff on the Internet. Go the fuck outside for some reason other than to go to work or to the liquor store. Interact with real people. Learn something about the world.</p><p>I don't characterize myself as a very smart person compared to most, and I'm fairly young and therefore am automatically assumed to lack experience. Yet somehow I am continually amazed at the sheer ignorance that many people I meet display about absolutely everything. Science, literature, fiction, history, geography, mechanics, <i>anything</i>. Yet they can recite to me chapter and verse what happened on Survivor or American Idol. The one that gets me is how they can complain to me about the war in Iraq, yet they don't actually know where Iraq <i>is</i>. These are people who are older than me -- people who should be "old enough to know better." Yet the only thing they know about the world is what they see through the damned box at the other end of the living room.</p><p>And it pisses me off. These people don't need pampering. Let them flounder. Maybe it'll force them to learn something about the world, even if it's just some tiny inconsequential thing that they need to hook up to get their fucking idiot box working again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I " get " the background and the technological reasons to switch to digital TV and all that .
But honestly , how many millions of our tax dollars are being wasted on this " dear god we need to drop everything and help everyone switch because lord knows we ca n't trust them to handle their own affairs !
" game ?
Seriously. Why should we care ?
It 's only television.Having to hear every four seconds about how it 's going to be some kind of goddamned tragedy because some portion of lazy motherfuckers sitting on a couch somewhere ca n't be arsed to replace or upgrade their own equipment ( or get someone to do it for them !
) when we 've been listening to the same goddamned twitter about this switch for three fucking years is really wearing thin .
Now we 're going to have to hear three more years of whining about how the new digital TV is no good , so-and-so ca n't get such-and-such channel anymore , and woe is me , my reception sucks now .
I have a better idea : Why do n't we just turn the whole thing the fuck off ?
I quit watching TV when I was a teenager and honestly , my life has n't been any less enriched because of it .
I have a TV , but it 's an old analog one that I use as a monitor for my game consoles .
I do n't have cable , I do n't have a converter box , and I do n't even have a damn antenna for the thing .
I do n't care , and I do n't see why anyone else should care enough to be treating this like some kind of disaster.Way back when this digital switchover was announced in the first place I held the vain hope that some portion of people might wake up and decide to do something else with themselves instead of park in front of their ( soon to be useless ) TV .
Like , I dunno .
Read a book .
Learn some stuff on the Internet .
Go the fuck outside for some reason other than to go to work or to the liquor store .
Interact with real people .
Learn something about the world.I do n't characterize myself as a very smart person compared to most , and I 'm fairly young and therefore am automatically assumed to lack experience .
Yet somehow I am continually amazed at the sheer ignorance that many people I meet display about absolutely everything .
Science , literature , fiction , history , geography , mechanics , anything .
Yet they can recite to me chapter and verse what happened on Survivor or American Idol .
The one that gets me is how they can complain to me about the war in Iraq , yet they do n't actually know where Iraq is .
These are people who are older than me -- people who should be " old enough to know better .
" Yet the only thing they know about the world is what they see through the damned box at the other end of the living room.And it pisses me off .
These people do n't need pampering .
Let them flounder .
Maybe it 'll force them to learn something about the world , even if it 's just some tiny inconsequential thing that they need to hook up to get their fucking idiot box working again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I "get" the background and the technological reasons to switch to digital TV and all that.
But honestly, how many millions of our tax dollars are being wasted on this "dear god we need to drop everything and help everyone switch because lord knows we can't trust them to handle their own affairs!
" game?
Seriously. Why should we care?
It's only television.Having to hear every four seconds about how it's going to be some kind of goddamned tragedy because some portion of lazy motherfuckers sitting on a couch somewhere can't be arsed to replace or upgrade their own equipment (or get someone to do it for them!
) when we've been listening to the same goddamned twitter about this switch for three fucking years is really wearing thin.
Now we're going to have to hear three more years of whining about how the new digital TV is no good, so-and-so can't get such-and-such channel anymore, and woe is me, my reception sucks now.
I have a better idea: Why don't we just turn the whole thing the fuck off?
I quit watching TV when I was a teenager and honestly, my life hasn't been any less enriched because of it.
I have a TV, but it's an old analog one that I use as a monitor for my game consoles.
I don't have cable, I don't have a converter box, and I don't even have a damn antenna for the thing.
I don't care, and I don't see why anyone else should care enough to be treating this like some kind of disaster.Way back when this digital switchover was announced in the first place I held the vain hope that some portion of people might wake up and decide to do something else with themselves instead of park in front of their (soon to be useless) TV.
Like, I dunno.
Read a book.
Learn some stuff on the Internet.
Go the fuck outside for some reason other than to go to work or to the liquor store.
Interact with real people.
Learn something about the world.I don't characterize myself as a very smart person compared to most, and I'm fairly young and therefore am automatically assumed to lack experience.
Yet somehow I am continually amazed at the sheer ignorance that many people I meet display about absolutely everything.
Science, literature, fiction, history, geography, mechanics, anything.
Yet they can recite to me chapter and verse what happened on Survivor or American Idol.
The one that gets me is how they can complain to me about the war in Iraq, yet they don't actually know where Iraq is.
These are people who are older than me -- people who should be "old enough to know better.
" Yet the only thing they know about the world is what they see through the damned box at the other end of the living room.And it pisses me off.
These people don't need pampering.
Let them flounder.
Maybe it'll force them to learn something about the world, even if it's just some tiny inconsequential thing that they need to hook up to get their fucking idiot box working again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326991</id>
	<title>Re:Only in Slashdot will a totally unrelated...</title>
	<author>bertoelcon</author>
	<datestamp>1244999700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe because people running MythTV and Ubuntu are slightly more tech savvy than the ones using Windows Media Center, and could fix their own problems and not make a giant scene over loss of channels for some amount of time?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe because people running MythTV and Ubuntu are slightly more tech savvy than the ones using Windows Media Center , and could fix their own problems and not make a giant scene over loss of channels for some amount of time ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe because people running MythTV and Ubuntu are slightly more tech savvy than the ones using Windows Media Center, and could fix their own problems and not make a giant scene over loss of channels for some amount of time?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326833</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326691</id>
	<title>Well Done</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244996820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Reports indicate that the FCC received upwards of 300,000 calls on Friday from consumers seeking late help with the transition, but they were prepared, with over 4,000 operators available to handle problems. The FCC's DTV website also had over 3 million hits on Friday. Both phone and internet traffic have now tapered off, and supplies of converter boxes appear to have held out just fine.</i></p><p>Much of my comment history has been dedicated to chastising the government when they get things wrong. I should also recognize when they get it right.</p><p>Nice work, guys!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reports indicate that the FCC received upwards of 300,000 calls on Friday from consumers seeking late help with the transition , but they were prepared , with over 4,000 operators available to handle problems .
The FCC 's DTV website also had over 3 million hits on Friday .
Both phone and internet traffic have now tapered off , and supplies of converter boxes appear to have held out just fine.Much of my comment history has been dedicated to chastising the government when they get things wrong .
I should also recognize when they get it right.Nice work , guys !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reports indicate that the FCC received upwards of 300,000 calls on Friday from consumers seeking late help with the transition, but they were prepared, with over 4,000 operators available to handle problems.
The FCC's DTV website also had over 3 million hits on Friday.
Both phone and internet traffic have now tapered off, and supplies of converter boxes appear to have held out just fine.Much of my comment history has been dedicated to chastising the government when they get things wrong.
I should also recognize when they get it right.Nice work, guys!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328327</id>
	<title>Re:Only in Slashdot will a totally unrelated...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245011220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>...discussion on something as mundane as Digital TV turn into Microsoft Bashing.</p></div><p>Duh! You're new here, aren't you? In Soviet Russia, Slashdot bashes you! Digital television is like a mid-sized sedan, while Slashdot is like a spare tire.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...discussion on something as mundane as Digital TV turn into Microsoft Bashing.Duh !
You 're new here , are n't you ?
In Soviet Russia , Slashdot bashes you !
Digital television is like a mid-sized sedan , while Slashdot is like a spare tire .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...discussion on something as mundane as Digital TV turn into Microsoft Bashing.Duh!
You're new here, aren't you?
In Soviet Russia, Slashdot bashes you!
Digital television is like a mid-sized sedan, while Slashdot is like a spare tire.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326833</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326529</id>
	<title>Definitely not a feature</title>
	<author>adosch</author>
	<datestamp>1244994600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>What broke in Windows Media Center isn't what I call a bug that needs to be fixed... Microsoft will make that "fix" an "enhanced feature" that only users who purchase or upgrade to Windows 7 Home Ultra-Premium-Enhanced-Elite-Super-Ultimate Edition.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What broke in Windows Media Center is n't what I call a bug that needs to be fixed... Microsoft will make that " fix " an " enhanced feature " that only users who purchase or upgrade to Windows 7 Home Ultra-Premium-Enhanced-Elite-Super-Ultimate Edition .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What broke in Windows Media Center isn't what I call a bug that needs to be fixed... Microsoft will make that "fix" an "enhanced feature" that only users who purchase or upgrade to Windows 7 Home Ultra-Premium-Enhanced-Elite-Super-Ultimate Edition.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327299</id>
	<title>Re:Progress</title>
	<author>Killer Orca</author>
	<datestamp>1245002340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you're not using an outdoor antenna you need to be, all the sets I have connected to the outdoor one are fine, but the rabbit-ears have problems with some channels.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're not using an outdoor antenna you need to be , all the sets I have connected to the outdoor one are fine , but the rabbit-ears have problems with some channels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're not using an outdoor antenna you need to be, all the sets I have connected to the outdoor one are fine, but the rabbit-ears have problems with some channels.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326929</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328043</id>
	<title>Re:Seriously, why should we care?</title>
	<author>paralaxcreations</author>
	<datestamp>1245009180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I personally hope the griping about "i don't get reception" or "i wasn't prepared for the switch" stops as well. Hopefully, the self-righteous "I don't even watch TV" crowd will STFU then too.</p><p>It's cool that you don't watch TV. But more than 238,000,000 people do...so, yeah. The DTV switch is <i>kinda</i> important.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I personally hope the griping about " i do n't get reception " or " i was n't prepared for the switch " stops as well .
Hopefully , the self-righteous " I do n't even watch TV " crowd will STFU then too.It 's cool that you do n't watch TV .
But more than 238,000,000 people do...so , yeah .
The DTV switch is kinda important .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I personally hope the griping about "i don't get reception" or "i wasn't prepared for the switch" stops as well.
Hopefully, the self-righteous "I don't even watch TV" crowd will STFU then too.It's cool that you don't watch TV.
But more than 238,000,000 people do...so, yeah.
The DTV switch is kinda important.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326861</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28329051</id>
	<title>Never heard of it</title>
	<author>Turmoyl</author>
	<datestamp>1244972760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's a Windows Media Center?  Who knew?!</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a Windows Media Center ?
Who knew ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a Windows Media Center?
Who knew?
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28342441</id>
	<title>Re:I lost several channels. :(</title>
	<author>jfreaksho</author>
	<datestamp>1245070380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Check your local (state) landlord/tenant law.  Many states have clauses that landlords are required to allow you external antennas or dishes, with some restrictions.  You might have to find a fellow geek to install it, or hire someone, but usually your landlord cannot prevent you from having an external antenna.<br>J.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Check your local ( state ) landlord/tenant law .
Many states have clauses that landlords are required to allow you external antennas or dishes , with some restrictions .
You might have to find a fellow geek to install it , or hire someone , but usually your landlord can not prevent you from having an external antenna.J .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check your local (state) landlord/tenant law.
Many states have clauses that landlords are required to allow you external antennas or dishes, with some restrictions.
You might have to find a fellow geek to install it, or hire someone, but usually your landlord cannot prevent you from having an external antenna.J.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327841</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326825</id>
	<title>get some ideas</title>
	<author>FudRucker</author>
	<datestamp>1244998260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search\_type=&amp;search\_query=homemade+hdtv+antenna&amp;aq=2" title="youtube.com">YouTube</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>YouTube [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>YouTube [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28336811</id>
	<title>Re:I was pleasantly surprised...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245087840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"NHK Today"</p><p>Damn.  US broadcasts standards must have dropped if they are playing that Japanese anime OTA.</p><p>"the Russian take on the Iranian election was kind of interesting."</p><p>iow, the US annoying Iranian president Russian's beaver won?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" NHK Today " Damn .
US broadcasts standards must have dropped if they are playing that Japanese anime OTA .
" the Russian take on the Iranian election was kind of interesting .
" iow , the US annoying Iranian president Russian 's beaver won ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"NHK Today"Damn.
US broadcasts standards must have dropped if they are playing that Japanese anime OTA.
"the Russian take on the Iranian election was kind of interesting.
"iow, the US annoying Iranian president Russian's beaver won?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326613</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326703</id>
	<title>I made the switch.  I switched to OFF</title>
	<author>BanjoBob</author>
	<datestamp>1244996940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We never have been able to get UHF channels here so the new-fangled whoop-dee-doo Digital TV means NO TV here.
<p>
However, for those with reception issues, visit <a href="http://www.tvfool.com/" title="tvfool.com" rel="nofollow">www.tvfool.com</a> [tvfool.com] and look at their tools/toys.  They have some interesting tools that you may find useful.  Where we are every station says, <b> <i>"These channels are very weak and will most likely require extreme measures to try and pick them up."</i> </b>
</p><p>
Since we rarely, if ever watch brainwashing ads, extremely biased news, inaccurate weather or bad programming, we decided we really don't need an idiot box anyway.  We'll keep the big screen for movies but now, we'll spend more time outside enjoying our world.
</p><p>
Those extreme measures the say we need to take will be to feed the landfill with more toxic waste.  I guess I could send the TVs to India or China instead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We never have been able to get UHF channels here so the new-fangled whoop-dee-doo Digital TV means NO TV here .
However , for those with reception issues , visit www.tvfool.com [ tvfool.com ] and look at their tools/toys .
They have some interesting tools that you may find useful .
Where we are every station says , " These channels are very weak and will most likely require extreme measures to try and pick them up .
" Since we rarely , if ever watch brainwashing ads , extremely biased news , inaccurate weather or bad programming , we decided we really do n't need an idiot box anyway .
We 'll keep the big screen for movies but now , we 'll spend more time outside enjoying our world .
Those extreme measures the say we need to take will be to feed the landfill with more toxic waste .
I guess I could send the TVs to India or China instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We never have been able to get UHF channels here so the new-fangled whoop-dee-doo Digital TV means NO TV here.
However, for those with reception issues, visit www.tvfool.com [tvfool.com] and look at their tools/toys.
They have some interesting tools that you may find useful.
Where we are every station says,  "These channels are very weak and will most likely require extreme measures to try and pick them up.
" 

Since we rarely, if ever watch brainwashing ads, extremely biased news, inaccurate weather or bad programming, we decided we really don't need an idiot box anyway.
We'll keep the big screen for movies but now, we'll spend more time outside enjoying our world.
Those extreme measures the say we need to take will be to feed the landfill with more toxic waste.
I guess I could send the TVs to India or China instead.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326693</id>
	<title>Hi.  I'm a Mac</title>
	<author>iMac Were</author>
	<datestamp>1244996880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>or manually edit the configuration files.</p></div></blockquote><p>Can someone explain to me what this means.  Do I need to buy a special $50 screwdriver or something?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>or manually edit the configuration files.Can someone explain to me what this means .
Do I need to buy a special $ 50 screwdriver or something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or manually edit the configuration files.Can someone explain to me what this means.
Do I need to buy a special $50 screwdriver or something?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328045</id>
	<title>Re:Seriously, why should we care?</title>
	<author>evilviper</author>
	<datestamp>1245009180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I'm fairly young and therefore am automatically assumed to lack experience. Yet somehow I am continually amazed at the sheer ignorance that many people I meet display about absolutely everything.</p></div></blockquote><p>What's this, now?  An angsty teenager who thinks he knows everything?!?!</p><p>I'm SHOCKED!  Shocked I say!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm fairly young and therefore am automatically assumed to lack experience .
Yet somehow I am continually amazed at the sheer ignorance that many people I meet display about absolutely everything.What 's this , now ?
An angsty teenager who thinks he knows everything ? ! ?
! I 'm SHOCKED !
Shocked I say !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm fairly young and therefore am automatically assumed to lack experience.
Yet somehow I am continually amazed at the sheer ignorance that many people I meet display about absolutely everything.What's this, now?
An angsty teenager who thinks he knows everything?!?
!I'm SHOCKED!
Shocked I say!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326861</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28330391</id>
	<title>Re:Digital went to shit when analogue died</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244985540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, Fox went dark here in North Austin after the transition.  Sounds like you've got it worse though...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , Fox went dark here in North Austin after the transition .
Sounds like you 've got it worse though.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, Fox went dark here in North Austin after the transition.
Sounds like you've got it worse though...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327417</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326919</id>
	<title>Re:I made the switch. I switched to OFF</title>
	<author>wiredlogic</author>
	<datestamp>1244999100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not all DTV is on UHF. The High VHF range was preserved. If you had such a station in your market, they had the option to remain on their old antenna. I have two in my area and they are now the strongest DTV transmitters I get. Even with a UHF specific antenna.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not all DTV is on UHF .
The High VHF range was preserved .
If you had such a station in your market , they had the option to remain on their old antenna .
I have two in my area and they are now the strongest DTV transmitters I get .
Even with a UHF specific antenna .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not all DTV is on UHF.
The High VHF range was preserved.
If you had such a station in your market, they had the option to remain on their old antenna.
I have two in my area and they are now the strongest DTV transmitters I get.
Even with a UHF specific antenna.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326703</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326493</id>
	<title>In Soviet Russia...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244994120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...digital TV controls YOU!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...digital TV controls YOU !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...digital TV controls YOU!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327541</id>
	<title>THANK GOD NO MORE COMMERCIALS</title>
	<author>Angeliqe</author>
	<datestamp>1245004740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>So now they can shut up about it now that it's finally happened?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So now they can shut up about it now that it 's finally happened ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So now they can shut up about it now that it's finally happened?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28333353</id>
	<title>Re:Progress</title>
	<author>Bakkster</author>
	<datestamp>1245065760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Of course, that doesn't help those in apartments.  I think the FCC screwed the pooch in letting so many stations drop their power so far.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , that does n't help those in apartments .
I think the FCC screwed the pooch in letting so many stations drop their power so far .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, that doesn't help those in apartments.
I think the FCC screwed the pooch in letting so many stations drop their power so far.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327299</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326537</id>
	<title>Progress</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244994720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now everyone will experience beautiful, high resolution broadcast video of quality programming.</p><p>Ha, ha! Just kidding, I made that second part up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now everyone will experience beautiful , high resolution broadcast video of quality programming.Ha , ha !
Just kidding , I made that second part up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now everyone will experience beautiful, high resolution broadcast video of quality programming.Ha, ha!
Just kidding, I made that second part up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327045</id>
	<title>It is reasonable</title>
	<author>ratboy666</author>
	<datestamp>1245000000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A bit thin skinned?</p><p>First, Microsoft has in excess of 80 to 90\% of the market, and Linux is "desktop irrelevant" at 1 to 5\%. Given those figures, isn't Media Center the ONLY TV application that matters? If there is a problem, it really only affects Media Center, right?</p><p>So, it's not "Microsoft Bashing". It's simple reporting. And, on a tech oriented website, I would certainly expect some tech slanted coverage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A bit thin skinned ? First , Microsoft has in excess of 80 to 90 \ % of the market , and Linux is " desktop irrelevant " at 1 to 5 \ % .
Given those figures , is n't Media Center the ONLY TV application that matters ?
If there is a problem , it really only affects Media Center , right ? So , it 's not " Microsoft Bashing " .
It 's simple reporting .
And , on a tech oriented website , I would certainly expect some tech slanted coverage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A bit thin skinned?First, Microsoft has in excess of 80 to 90\% of the market, and Linux is "desktop irrelevant" at 1 to 5\%.
Given those figures, isn't Media Center the ONLY TV application that matters?
If there is a problem, it really only affects Media Center, right?So, it's not "Microsoft Bashing".
It's simple reporting.
And, on a tech oriented website, I would certainly expect some tech slanted coverage.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326833</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328583</id>
	<title>ClearQAM affected</title>
	<author>AbsoluteXyro</author>
	<datestamp>1245012900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Fox has disappeared entirely from Comcast's ClearQAM selection since the switch.  At least in Minneapolis.  I wonder if they are still carrying it, or are simply encrypting it now (which I'm fairly certain is illegal)?  At least it was the only casualty.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fox has disappeared entirely from Comcast 's ClearQAM selection since the switch .
At least in Minneapolis .
I wonder if they are still carrying it , or are simply encrypting it now ( which I 'm fairly certain is illegal ) ?
At least it was the only casualty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fox has disappeared entirely from Comcast's ClearQAM selection since the switch.
At least in Minneapolis.
I wonder if they are still carrying it, or are simply encrypting it now (which I'm fairly certain is illegal)?
At least it was the only casualty.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327007</id>
	<title>Re:I was pleasantly surprised...</title>
	<author>Jeremy Erwin</author>
	<datestamp>1244999820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>mhz went all digital a couple of years ago. Since they broadcast four SD subchannels, each with its own content, it made more sense than wasting money on a analog transmitter.  The mHz stations in my area have ganged up, so I can choose from eight different foreign language programs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>mhz went all digital a couple of years ago .
Since they broadcast four SD subchannels , each with its own content , it made more sense than wasting money on a analog transmitter .
The mHz stations in my area have ganged up , so I can choose from eight different foreign language programs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mhz went all digital a couple of years ago.
Since they broadcast four SD subchannels, each with its own content, it made more sense than wasting money on a analog transmitter.
The mHz stations in my area have ganged up, so I can choose from eight different foreign language programs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326733</id>
	<title>Re:Really Cool things happened.</title>
	<author>Megane</author>
	<datestamp>1244997180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One local station here is still running the converter box video in analog, and a translator for another local station is still in analog.
</p><p>Another local station did a flash cut, for real. I had both channels showing on two different screens, and they both went out at the same time. It took me a minuter or so to convince my cable box to tune into the other channel without doing a rescan, but I'm sure it was quick. And a PBS station in an adjacent market that I've been wanting to receive also did a flash-cut. It's a bit intermittent, but I should be able to get it reliable if I work on it, possibly a pre-amp will help.
</p><p>And Saturday morning I picked up a station from 350 miles away for an hour or so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One local station here is still running the converter box video in analog , and a translator for another local station is still in analog .
Another local station did a flash cut , for real .
I had both channels showing on two different screens , and they both went out at the same time .
It took me a minuter or so to convince my cable box to tune into the other channel without doing a rescan , but I 'm sure it was quick .
And a PBS station in an adjacent market that I 've been wanting to receive also did a flash-cut .
It 's a bit intermittent , but I should be able to get it reliable if I work on it , possibly a pre-amp will help .
And Saturday morning I picked up a station from 350 miles away for an hour or so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One local station here is still running the converter box video in analog, and a translator for another local station is still in analog.
Another local station did a flash cut, for real.
I had both channels showing on two different screens, and they both went out at the same time.
It took me a minuter or so to convince my cable box to tune into the other channel without doing a rescan, but I'm sure it was quick.
And a PBS station in an adjacent market that I've been wanting to receive also did a flash-cut.
It's a bit intermittent, but I should be able to get it reliable if I work on it, possibly a pre-amp will help.
And Saturday morning I picked up a station from 350 miles away for an hour or so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28329823</id>
	<title>Re:I call BS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244979720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>PBS is also off the air but this may be because their repeater got hammered in a storm.</p></div> </blockquote><p>FWIW, Wikipedia shows all three PBS stations in NM as having digital broadcasts.  My guess is it actually is the repeater.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>PBS is also off the air but this may be because their repeater got hammered in a storm .
FWIW , Wikipedia shows all three PBS stations in NM as having digital broadcasts .
My guess is it actually is the repeater .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PBS is also off the air but this may be because their repeater got hammered in a storm.
FWIW, Wikipedia shows all three PBS stations in NM as having digital broadcasts.
My guess is it actually is the repeater.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327633</id>
	<title>Re:Digital went to shit when analogue died</title>
	<author>Flying Scotsman</author>
	<datestamp>1245005640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've had about the opposite experience just south of you in Dakota county. On Saturday morning, I had my converter box do a channel re-scan. Most every channel was about 20\% higher on the box's signal meter, with TPT coming in at near 100\%. However, KMSP (channel 9) completely vanished. I entered tried entering the channel manually, but still nothing. Oh well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've had about the opposite experience just south of you in Dakota county .
On Saturday morning , I had my converter box do a channel re-scan .
Most every channel was about 20 \ % higher on the box 's signal meter , with TPT coming in at near 100 \ % .
However , KMSP ( channel 9 ) completely vanished .
I entered tried entering the channel manually , but still nothing .
Oh well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've had about the opposite experience just south of you in Dakota county.
On Saturday morning, I had my converter box do a channel re-scan.
Most every channel was about 20\% higher on the box's signal meter, with TPT coming in at near 100\%.
However, KMSP (channel 9) completely vanished.
I entered tried entering the channel manually, but still nothing.
Oh well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327711</id>
	<title>I call BS</title>
	<author>DrJimbo</author>
	<datestamp>1245006540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>IIRC, this reason for this forced transition was to get small rural communities to switch over to DTV.  I live in rural New Mexico.  All our signals arrive here via repeaters.
<br> <br>
Only <b>one</b> out of five stations (ABC) made the transition.  NBC simply went off the air (because making the transition to digital would be too expensive).  PBS is also off the air but this may be becausetheir repeater got hammered in a storm.
<br> <br>
So right now our local station, FOX, and CBS are still broadcasting in analog while ABC is only digital.  The Zenith converter box I got (because it had analog pass-through) does not pass through analog signals without loss so I have to actually replug wires to switch stations.
<br> <br>
For my little piece of rural America, this transition was about as smooth as sandpaper toilet tissue.</htmltext>
<tokenext>IIRC , this reason for this forced transition was to get small rural communities to switch over to DTV .
I live in rural New Mexico .
All our signals arrive here via repeaters .
Only one out of five stations ( ABC ) made the transition .
NBC simply went off the air ( because making the transition to digital would be too expensive ) .
PBS is also off the air but this may be becausetheir repeater got hammered in a storm .
So right now our local station , FOX , and CBS are still broadcasting in analog while ABC is only digital .
The Zenith converter box I got ( because it had analog pass-through ) does not pass through analog signals without loss so I have to actually replug wires to switch stations .
For my little piece of rural America , this transition was about as smooth as sandpaper toilet tissue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IIRC, this reason for this forced transition was to get small rural communities to switch over to DTV.
I live in rural New Mexico.
All our signals arrive here via repeaters.
Only one out of five stations (ABC) made the transition.
NBC simply went off the air (because making the transition to digital would be too expensive).
PBS is also off the air but this may be becausetheir repeater got hammered in a storm.
So right now our local station, FOX, and CBS are still broadcasting in analog while ABC is only digital.
The Zenith converter box I got (because it had analog pass-through) does not pass through analog signals without loss so I have to actually replug wires to switch stations.
For my little piece of rural America, this transition was about as smooth as sandpaper toilet tissue.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328709</id>
	<title>Re:Only in Slashdot will a totally unrelated...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244970420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree....if I still had a TiVo, I would have to rescan for new channels.  It's a one time thing you need to do after the switch with any device that allows you to add/remove channels from your lineup.</p><p>Personally though, I don't know what the problem actually is.  On Vista months ago I had all the digital channels in my line up and my Windows 7 Media Center has also.</p><p>Doesn't sound like it's a problem with Media Center...sounds like it's a problem with users that didn't know they had to rescan the lineup.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree....if I still had a TiVo , I would have to rescan for new channels .
It 's a one time thing you need to do after the switch with any device that allows you to add/remove channels from your lineup.Personally though , I do n't know what the problem actually is .
On Vista months ago I had all the digital channels in my line up and my Windows 7 Media Center has also.Does n't sound like it 's a problem with Media Center...sounds like it 's a problem with users that did n't know they had to rescan the lineup .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree....if I still had a TiVo, I would have to rescan for new channels.
It's a one time thing you need to do after the switch with any device that allows you to add/remove channels from your lineup.Personally though, I don't know what the problem actually is.
On Vista months ago I had all the digital channels in my line up and my Windows 7 Media Center has also.Doesn't sound like it's a problem with Media Center...sounds like it's a problem with users that didn't know they had to rescan the lineup.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328867</id>
	<title>Re:Anecdote</title>
	<author>Korin43</author>
	<datestamp>1244971560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Doesn't seem that bad.. a few channels switching over slowly and some bad sound? I don't see the big deal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't seem that bad.. a few channels switching over slowly and some bad sound ?
I do n't see the big deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't seem that bad.. a few channels switching over slowly and some bad sound?
I don't see the big deal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328131</id>
	<title>Re:Only in Slashdot will a totally unrelated...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245009780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Welcome to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. where bad weather, AIDS, dog poop on the sidewalk and everything else are all somehow Microsoft's fault. Bashing them is expected in both the summary and comments, even in totally unrelated articles.</p><p>It's a shame, because it would be a nice site if it wasn't for those retards.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to / .
where bad weather , AIDS , dog poop on the sidewalk and everything else are all somehow Microsoft 's fault .
Bashing them is expected in both the summary and comments , even in totally unrelated articles.It 's a shame , because it would be a nice site if it was n't for those retards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to /.
where bad weather, AIDS, dog poop on the sidewalk and everything else are all somehow Microsoft's fault.
Bashing them is expected in both the summary and comments, even in totally unrelated articles.It's a shame, because it would be a nice site if it wasn't for those retards.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328203</id>
	<title>Re:Seriously, why should we care?</title>
	<author>MemoryDragon</author>
	<datestamp>1245010200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>DTV is the classic forced update of a technology that had worked just fine for decades.</p><p>They can talk all they like about picture quality (true, if you have a good signal), but the truth is they<br>are forcing the sale of a lot of new hardware, and are<br>making it easier for broadcasters to control what people do with the signals<br>they receive. It's all about control and money. Isn't everything?</p><p>...laura</p></div><p>Truth is, that you can get away for free with the cupons, which are financed by the sales of the now empty frequencies for other services. Truth is also that you can shove more channels into the spectrum which might save you a cable contract in the long run. Truth also is that the picture quality especially coming from the lousy US NTSC is way better.<br>Btw. we over here in europe had the switch about 5 years ago, I have never heard that much of complaining, we also had the cupon project. And no whining was there, and mostly people are pretty happy here that they had switched. Better picture quality, altough it was no such a big step from PAL which anyway was superior to NTSC, and the biggest plus more channels and cheap receiver usb sticks for their PCs.</p><p>So there is another coin to the switch!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>DTV is the classic forced update of a technology that had worked just fine for decades.They can talk all they like about picture quality ( true , if you have a good signal ) , but the truth is theyare forcing the sale of a lot of new hardware , and aremaking it easier for broadcasters to control what people do with the signalsthey receive .
It 's all about control and money .
Is n't everything ? ...lauraTruth is , that you can get away for free with the cupons , which are financed by the sales of the now empty frequencies for other services .
Truth is also that you can shove more channels into the spectrum which might save you a cable contract in the long run .
Truth also is that the picture quality especially coming from the lousy US NTSC is way better.Btw .
we over here in europe had the switch about 5 years ago , I have never heard that much of complaining , we also had the cupon project .
And no whining was there , and mostly people are pretty happy here that they had switched .
Better picture quality , altough it was no such a big step from PAL which anyway was superior to NTSC , and the biggest plus more channels and cheap receiver usb sticks for their PCs.So there is another coin to the switch !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DTV is the classic forced update of a technology that had worked just fine for decades.They can talk all they like about picture quality (true, if you have a good signal), but the truth is theyare forcing the sale of a lot of new hardware, and aremaking it easier for broadcasters to control what people do with the signalsthey receive.
It's all about control and money.
Isn't everything?...lauraTruth is, that you can get away for free with the cupons, which are financed by the sales of the now empty frequencies for other services.
Truth is also that you can shove more channels into the spectrum which might save you a cable contract in the long run.
Truth also is that the picture quality especially coming from the lousy US NTSC is way better.Btw.
we over here in europe had the switch about 5 years ago, I have never heard that much of complaining, we also had the cupon project.
And no whining was there, and mostly people are pretty happy here that they had switched.
Better picture quality, altough it was no such a big step from PAL which anyway was superior to NTSC, and the biggest plus more channels and cheap receiver usb sticks for their PCs.So there is another coin to the switch!
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327065</id>
	<title>Re:Progress</title>
	<author>Jeremy Erwin</author>
	<datestamp>1245000240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>She could do what millions of American have done and bought an atsc tuner. Some models have an ntsc passthrough, so that any non digital Canadian stations  will still get through.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>She could do what millions of American have done and bought an atsc tuner .
Some models have an ntsc passthrough , so that any non digital Canadian stations will still get through .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>She could do what millions of American have done and bought an atsc tuner.
Some models have an ntsc passthrough, so that any non digital Canadian stations  will still get through.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327249</id>
	<title>Re:Anecdote</title>
	<author>Patch86</author>
	<datestamp>1245002040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I feel that the UK has done/is doing the whole digital switch-over thing better.</p><p>Here, each region (roughly equivalent to each local-news region) has it's own switch-off date, with the whole thing spread over about 4 years (and this in a country with a smaller population, more densely packed, meaning the switch-over would probably be easier anyway). This means that, for one, the broadcasters and government agencies only have to worry about nurse-maiding small numbers of people over at once. For two, it gives people a lot longer to get used to the idea and upgrade (I just happened to need a new TV a year or so ago, and it just incidentally happen to be DTV-ready, without me needing to worry about it). For three, it means that the odds of broadcasters in any given area being up to speed with full-power transmissions is very high, meaning less chance of down-time or missing channels.</p><p>Why a large, sparsely populated country of ~300 million people would decide to do the switch-over all at once I can't figure out. Maybe THAT'S the easier way and the UK is doing it awkwardly, but it just doesn't seem like that to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I feel that the UK has done/is doing the whole digital switch-over thing better.Here , each region ( roughly equivalent to each local-news region ) has it 's own switch-off date , with the whole thing spread over about 4 years ( and this in a country with a smaller population , more densely packed , meaning the switch-over would probably be easier anyway ) .
This means that , for one , the broadcasters and government agencies only have to worry about nurse-maiding small numbers of people over at once .
For two , it gives people a lot longer to get used to the idea and upgrade ( I just happened to need a new TV a year or so ago , and it just incidentally happen to be DTV-ready , without me needing to worry about it ) .
For three , it means that the odds of broadcasters in any given area being up to speed with full-power transmissions is very high , meaning less chance of down-time or missing channels.Why a large , sparsely populated country of ~ 300 million people would decide to do the switch-over all at once I ca n't figure out .
Maybe THAT 'S the easier way and the UK is doing it awkwardly , but it just does n't seem like that to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I feel that the UK has done/is doing the whole digital switch-over thing better.Here, each region (roughly equivalent to each local-news region) has it's own switch-off date, with the whole thing spread over about 4 years (and this in a country with a smaller population, more densely packed, meaning the switch-over would probably be easier anyway).
This means that, for one, the broadcasters and government agencies only have to worry about nurse-maiding small numbers of people over at once.
For two, it gives people a lot longer to get used to the idea and upgrade (I just happened to need a new TV a year or so ago, and it just incidentally happen to be DTV-ready, without me needing to worry about it).
For three, it means that the odds of broadcasters in any given area being up to speed with full-power transmissions is very high, meaning less chance of down-time or missing channels.Why a large, sparsely populated country of ~300 million people would decide to do the switch-over all at once I can't figure out.
Maybe THAT'S the easier way and the UK is doing it awkwardly, but it just doesn't seem like that to me.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28332813</id>
	<title>Re:I call BS</title>
	<author>jonadab</author>
	<datestamp>1245056700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt; IIRC, this reason for this forced transition was to get<br>&gt; small rural communities to switch over to DTV.<br><br>There's rural and then there's rural.<br><br>When they were talking about getting "rural" communities to switch over to digital television broadcasting, I think they were mostly talking about stations serving small cities (between five thousand and fifty thousand people; a large percentage of the population resides in communities in that size range.)  If you live in rural New Mexico, you probably think a city of thirty thousand people sounds pretty urban, but to somebody living in one of the big cities on the coast, that's "rural".<br><br>Areas that are *actually* rural, like yours, don't have very many television stations in the first place (you probably mostly get signal from repeaters) and also don't account for very much of the population.</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; IIRC , this reason for this forced transition was to get &gt; small rural communities to switch over to DTV.There 's rural and then there 's rural.When they were talking about getting " rural " communities to switch over to digital television broadcasting , I think they were mostly talking about stations serving small cities ( between five thousand and fifty thousand people ; a large percentage of the population resides in communities in that size range .
) If you live in rural New Mexico , you probably think a city of thirty thousand people sounds pretty urban , but to somebody living in one of the big cities on the coast , that 's " rural " .Areas that are * actually * rural , like yours , do n't have very many television stations in the first place ( you probably mostly get signal from repeaters ) and also do n't account for very much of the population .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; IIRC, this reason for this forced transition was to get&gt; small rural communities to switch over to DTV.There's rural and then there's rural.When they were talking about getting "rural" communities to switch over to digital television broadcasting, I think they were mostly talking about stations serving small cities (between five thousand and fifty thousand people; a large percentage of the population resides in communities in that size range.
)  If you live in rural New Mexico, you probably think a city of thirty thousand people sounds pretty urban, but to somebody living in one of the big cities on the coast, that's "rural".Areas that are *actually* rural, like yours, don't have very many television stations in the first place (you probably mostly get signal from repeaters) and also don't account for very much of the population.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28331445</id>
	<title>Re:It is reasonable</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244996340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>First, Microsoft has in excess of 80 to 90\% of the market, and Linux is "desktop irrelevant" at 1 to 5\%. Given those figures, isn't Media Center the ONLY TV application that matters? If there is a problem, it really only affects Media Center, right?</p></div><p>By that logic, 80 to 90\% of the stories on Slashdot should be about Microsoft.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>First , Microsoft has in excess of 80 to 90 \ % of the market , and Linux is " desktop irrelevant " at 1 to 5 \ % .
Given those figures , is n't Media Center the ONLY TV application that matters ?
If there is a problem , it really only affects Media Center , right ? By that logic , 80 to 90 \ % of the stories on Slashdot should be about Microsoft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First, Microsoft has in excess of 80 to 90\% of the market, and Linux is "desktop irrelevant" at 1 to 5\%.
Given those figures, isn't Media Center the ONLY TV application that matters?
If there is a problem, it really only affects Media Center, right?By that logic, 80 to 90\% of the stories on Slashdot should be about Microsoft.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327215</id>
	<title>Re:Seriously, why should we care?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245001560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>DTV is the classic forced update of a technology that had worked just fine for decades.

</p><p>They can talk all they like about picture quality (true, if you have a good signal), but the truth is they
are forcing the sale of a lot of new hardware, and are
making it easier for broadcasters to control what people do with the signals
they receive. It's all about control and money. Isn't everything?

</p><p>...laura</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>DTV is the classic forced update of a technology that had worked just fine for decades .
They can talk all they like about picture quality ( true , if you have a good signal ) , but the truth is they are forcing the sale of a lot of new hardware , and are making it easier for broadcasters to control what people do with the signals they receive .
It 's all about control and money .
Is n't everything ?
...laura</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DTV is the classic forced update of a technology that had worked just fine for decades.
They can talk all they like about picture quality (true, if you have a good signal), but the truth is they
are forcing the sale of a lot of new hardware, and are
making it easier for broadcasters to control what people do with the signals
they receive.
It's all about control and money.
Isn't everything?
...laura</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327753</id>
	<title>Re:Well Done</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245007020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Too bad all they can get right is the brain rot we call TV.</p><p>Wish they could get some useful things right. You know, little stuff like economic reform, healthcare, and massive over reactions to terrorism.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Too bad all they can get right is the brain rot we call TV.Wish they could get some useful things right .
You know , little stuff like economic reform , healthcare , and massive over reactions to terrorism .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too bad all they can get right is the brain rot we call TV.Wish they could get some useful things right.
You know, little stuff like economic reform, healthcare, and massive over reactions to terrorism.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326905</id>
	<title>Re:It Worked</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244999040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327005</id>
	<title>Re:I made the switch. I switched to OFF</title>
	<author>evilviper</author>
	<datestamp>1244999760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>We never have been able to get UHF channels here so the new-fangled whoop-dee-doo Digital TV means NO TV here.</p></div> </blockquote><p>Most broadcasters on VHF 7 - 13 are going to continue to broadcast on their old VHF channels, so you're just making a fool of yourself.</p><p>Also "can't receive (frequency)" is completely baseless nonsense.  You COULD SAY that your antenna doesn't work well for them, but that's about it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We never have been able to get UHF channels here so the new-fangled whoop-dee-doo Digital TV means NO TV here .
Most broadcasters on VHF 7 - 13 are going to continue to broadcast on their old VHF channels , so you 're just making a fool of yourself.Also " ca n't receive ( frequency ) " is completely baseless nonsense .
You COULD SAY that your antenna does n't work well for them , but that 's about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We never have been able to get UHF channels here so the new-fangled whoop-dee-doo Digital TV means NO TV here.
Most broadcasters on VHF 7 - 13 are going to continue to broadcast on their old VHF channels, so you're just making a fool of yourself.Also "can't receive (frequency)" is completely baseless nonsense.
You COULD SAY that your antenna doesn't work well for them, but that's about it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326501</id>
	<title>Anecdote</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244994180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One local station was completely dark for about 8 hours, another delayed the switch until after game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals and was off the air for about 2.5 minutes. The third had already switched in February after their analog transmitter blew up (or broke down in some more mundane fashion).</p><p>Still some teething problems here, for instance, guides not matching programming, the SAP being fed alongside the main audio programming, and occasional blank screens. Some stations are convinced that they have to broadcast SD in 4:3 (or they think it will help old people, or something, I wish they would use 16:9).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One local station was completely dark for about 8 hours , another delayed the switch until after game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals and was off the air for about 2.5 minutes .
The third had already switched in February after their analog transmitter blew up ( or broke down in some more mundane fashion ) .Still some teething problems here , for instance , guides not matching programming , the SAP being fed alongside the main audio programming , and occasional blank screens .
Some stations are convinced that they have to broadcast SD in 4 : 3 ( or they think it will help old people , or something , I wish they would use 16 : 9 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One local station was completely dark for about 8 hours, another delayed the switch until after game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals and was off the air for about 2.5 minutes.
The third had already switched in February after their analog transmitter blew up (or broke down in some more mundane fashion).Still some teething problems here, for instance, guides not matching programming, the SAP being fed alongside the main audio programming, and occasional blank screens.
Some stations are convinced that they have to broadcast SD in 4:3 (or they think it will help old people, or something, I wish they would use 16:9).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327869</id>
	<title>Re:I was pleasantly surprised...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245007980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I got eight new channels on Friday...</p></div><p>Well, I only got one new channel on Friday - which brings me up to a total of five watchable channels (four of which are sub-channels of one public television station).</p><p>Granted, I live in an apartment complex so a roof mounted antenna is not an option - but I did go to the trouble of making myself a Gray-Hoverman antenna (for only slight improvement over rabbit-ears).</p><p>I live in a densely populated area (Inland Empire - essentially part of the greater Los Angeles area) so it's puzzling to me that the TV stations aren't providing a better signal.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I got eight new channels on Friday...Well , I only got one new channel on Friday - which brings me up to a total of five watchable channels ( four of which are sub-channels of one public television station ) .Granted , I live in an apartment complex so a roof mounted antenna is not an option - but I did go to the trouble of making myself a Gray-Hoverman antenna ( for only slight improvement over rabbit-ears ) .I live in a densely populated area ( Inland Empire - essentially part of the greater Los Angeles area ) so it 's puzzling to me that the TV stations are n't providing a better signal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got eight new channels on Friday...Well, I only got one new channel on Friday - which brings me up to a total of five watchable channels (four of which are sub-channels of one public television station).Granted, I live in an apartment complex so a roof mounted antenna is not an option - but I did go to the trouble of making myself a Gray-Hoverman antenna (for only slight improvement over rabbit-ears).I live in a densely populated area (Inland Empire - essentially part of the greater Los Angeles area) so it's puzzling to me that the TV stations aren't providing a better signal.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328207</id>
	<title>Re:"Idiot box" is Green's favorite derogatory term</title>
	<author>paralaxcreations</author>
	<datestamp>1245010260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know it's a joke (Duh, The Onion), but living in Chapel Hill (where the "Area Man" is from) I think I met this guy. At least 5 times per day.</p><p>Seriously, the population of "I don't watch TV and am proud of it!" crowd here is a little alarming.  And really annoying.</p><p>Granted, these are usually the same people who will start fires on Franklin Street just to jump over them every time UNC wins a basketball game, or townies who get wasted at one of the myriad local bars, so everything with a grain of salt, I suppose.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know it 's a joke ( Duh , The Onion ) , but living in Chapel Hill ( where the " Area Man " is from ) I think I met this guy .
At least 5 times per day.Seriously , the population of " I do n't watch TV and am proud of it !
" crowd here is a little alarming .
And really annoying.Granted , these are usually the same people who will start fires on Franklin Street just to jump over them every time UNC wins a basketball game , or townies who get wasted at one of the myriad local bars , so everything with a grain of salt , I suppose .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know it's a joke (Duh, The Onion), but living in Chapel Hill (where the "Area Man" is from) I think I met this guy.
At least 5 times per day.Seriously, the population of "I don't watch TV and am proud of it!
" crowd here is a little alarming.
And really annoying.Granted, these are usually the same people who will start fires on Franklin Street just to jump over them every time UNC wins a basketball game, or townies who get wasted at one of the myriad local bars, so everything with a grain of salt, I suppose.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327621</id>
	<title>Re:Digital went to shit when analogue died</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245005520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm in St. Paul, and I'm only getting channel 25 &amp; 4 &amp; 23. Oddly enough, the channels I have no interest in watching(spanish language gospel) are the ones coming in the clearest. There seems to be no way to manually set channels myself on this Apex box.</p><p>Oh well, that's why I have cable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm in St. Paul , and I 'm only getting channel 25 &amp; 4 &amp; 23 .
Oddly enough , the channels I have no interest in watching ( spanish language gospel ) are the ones coming in the clearest .
There seems to be no way to manually set channels myself on this Apex box.Oh well , that 's why I have cable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm in St. Paul, and I'm only getting channel 25 &amp; 4 &amp; 23.
Oddly enough, the channels I have no interest in watching(spanish language gospel) are the ones coming in the clearest.
There seems to be no way to manually set channels myself on this Apex box.Oh well, that's why I have cable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327425</id>
	<title>Re:I made the switch. I switched to OFF</title>
	<author>DerekLyons</author>
	<datestamp>1245003720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>but now, we'll spend more time outside enjoying our world.</p></div></blockquote><p>So you're sitting indoors bitching on Slashdot...  why?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>but now , we 'll spend more time outside enjoying our world.So you 're sitting indoors bitching on Slashdot... why ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but now, we'll spend more time outside enjoying our world.So you're sitting indoors bitching on Slashdot...  why?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328143</id>
	<title>Re:I made the switch. I switched to OFF</title>
	<author>equivocal</author>
	<datestamp>1245009900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No TV here either.  For all the alarmist crying which brought about the Feb-June delay, translators and those who watch them were shafted.<br><br>tvfool is a joke.  The three stations it said I might receive are 30+ miles away on the other side of numerous high ridges.  The LP translators I've been watching for decades, on the other hand, it said I could not receive even with a 500 foot high antenna.<br><br>I did spend some time outside Saturday...tending a patch of poison oak.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No TV here either .
For all the alarmist crying which brought about the Feb-June delay , translators and those who watch them were shafted.tvfool is a joke .
The three stations it said I might receive are 30 + miles away on the other side of numerous high ridges .
The LP translators I 've been watching for decades , on the other hand , it said I could not receive even with a 500 foot high antenna.I did spend some time outside Saturday...tending a patch of poison oak .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No TV here either.
For all the alarmist crying which brought about the Feb-June delay, translators and those who watch them were shafted.tvfool is a joke.
The three stations it said I might receive are 30+ miles away on the other side of numerous high ridges.
The LP translators I've been watching for decades, on the other hand, it said I could not receive even with a 500 foot high antenna.I did spend some time outside Saturday...tending a patch of poison oak.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327247</id>
	<title>Re:Seriously, why should we care?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245001980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>"But honestly, how many millions of our tax dollars are being wasted on this "dear god we need to drop everything and help everyone switch because lord knows we can't trust them to handle their own affairs!" game?"

About 10 billion were spent on it... a fraction of what the government made by selling the (spectrum) space freed by switching to digital.  Net gain in money by quite a bit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" But honestly , how many millions of our tax dollars are being wasted on this " dear god we need to drop everything and help everyone switch because lord knows we ca n't trust them to handle their own affairs !
" game ?
" About 10 billion were spent on it... a fraction of what the government made by selling the ( spectrum ) space freed by switching to digital .
Net gain in money by quite a bit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"But honestly, how many millions of our tax dollars are being wasted on this "dear god we need to drop everything and help everyone switch because lord knows we can't trust them to handle their own affairs!
" game?
"

About 10 billion were spent on it... a fraction of what the government made by selling the (spectrum) space freed by switching to digital.
Net gain in money by quite a bit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28329797</id>
	<title>Tinfoil Hat Time!</title>
	<author>macs4all</author>
	<datestamp>1244979360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I live in the US State of Indiana, and on Friday morning, in amongst the rah-rah DTV ads, was ONE lonely ad that noted that if you lived in a list of about a dozen Indiana counties, you could expect NO SIGNAL AT ALL when the switchover occurred. <a href="http://www.theindychannel.com/news/19733615/detail.html" title="theindychannel.com" rel="nofollow">here's</a> [theindychannel.com] an article listing at least 7 Indiana counties affected. Curiously, some of the Counties are in Northern Indiana, which is FLAT AS A PANCAKE, so what's with the "terrain" excuse?<br> <br>
I find it highly suspicious that that ad was:<br> <br>
1. Not aired until the DAY OF the transition<br> <br>
2. Not aired until AFTER President Obama publicly stated "There will be no more delays."<br> <br>
3. Was only aired ONCE (that I saw at least, watching for about 5 hours on the same channel that aired it) (meeting the legal requirements for "notice", but obviously intended to provide "notice" to as FEW people as possible).<br> <br>
I'm sorry, but a large chunk of American Taxpayers were instantly relegated to TV purgatory on Saturday, WITH NO SOLUTION OR EVEN A BACKUP PLAN IN SIGHT.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in the US State of Indiana , and on Friday morning , in amongst the rah-rah DTV ads , was ONE lonely ad that noted that if you lived in a list of about a dozen Indiana counties , you could expect NO SIGNAL AT ALL when the switchover occurred .
here 's [ theindychannel.com ] an article listing at least 7 Indiana counties affected .
Curiously , some of the Counties are in Northern Indiana , which is FLAT AS A PANCAKE , so what 's with the " terrain " excuse ?
I find it highly suspicious that that ad was : 1 .
Not aired until the DAY OF the transition 2 .
Not aired until AFTER President Obama publicly stated " There will be no more delays .
" 3 .
Was only aired ONCE ( that I saw at least , watching for about 5 hours on the same channel that aired it ) ( meeting the legal requirements for " notice " , but obviously intended to provide " notice " to as FEW people as possible ) .
I 'm sorry , but a large chunk of American Taxpayers were instantly relegated to TV purgatory on Saturday , WITH NO SOLUTION OR EVEN A BACKUP PLAN IN SIGHT .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in the US State of Indiana, and on Friday morning, in amongst the rah-rah DTV ads, was ONE lonely ad that noted that if you lived in a list of about a dozen Indiana counties, you could expect NO SIGNAL AT ALL when the switchover occurred.
here's [theindychannel.com] an article listing at least 7 Indiana counties affected.
Curiously, some of the Counties are in Northern Indiana, which is FLAT AS A PANCAKE, so what's with the "terrain" excuse?
I find it highly suspicious that that ad was: 
1.
Not aired until the DAY OF the transition 
2.
Not aired until AFTER President Obama publicly stated "There will be no more delays.
" 
3.
Was only aired ONCE (that I saw at least, watching for about 5 hours on the same channel that aired it) (meeting the legal requirements for "notice", but obviously intended to provide "notice" to as FEW people as possible).
I'm sorry, but a large chunk of American Taxpayers were instantly relegated to TV purgatory on Saturday, WITH NO SOLUTION OR EVEN A BACKUP PLAN IN SIGHT.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28332849</id>
	<title>Wish I knew how to talk to Comcast about QAM</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1245057060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It may just come back.</p><p>Twice now over the last several years, I've had almost all my ClearQAM channels just drop.  Once I tried to call about this, but they inisted I had to have a converter box to watch digital TV and had no idea what the hell QAM even was...</p><p>Sadly the vanishment lasted a few months in my case (each time) but at least it did come back.</p><p>Perhaps you can talk your way up the tech tree and get some answers.  I thought they were required to carry these signals as well.</p><p>Good luck...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It may just come back.Twice now over the last several years , I 've had almost all my ClearQAM channels just drop .
Once I tried to call about this , but they inisted I had to have a converter box to watch digital TV and had no idea what the hell QAM even was...Sadly the vanishment lasted a few months in my case ( each time ) but at least it did come back.Perhaps you can talk your way up the tech tree and get some answers .
I thought they were required to carry these signals as well.Good luck.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It may just come back.Twice now over the last several years, I've had almost all my ClearQAM channels just drop.
Once I tried to call about this, but they inisted I had to have a converter box to watch digital TV and had no idea what the hell QAM even was...Sadly the vanishment lasted a few months in my case (each time) but at least it did come back.Perhaps you can talk your way up the tech tree and get some answers.
I thought they were required to carry these signals as well.Good luck...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326997</id>
	<title>I was looking for a reason to give up TV</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244999700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thank you, federal government, for imposing on me enough force to guide me in the right direction.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank you , federal government , for imposing on me enough force to guide me in the right direction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank you, federal government, for imposing on me enough force to guide me in the right direction.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327169</id>
	<title>Re:Anecdote</title>
	<author>Ken\_g6</author>
	<datestamp>1245001080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All my local stations had some problems around that time.  On Thursday night, CBS had an audio problem (using the wrong channels from the surround sound, I think, so music came through but voices did not.) On Friday morning, ABC was dropping frames, so movements looked jerky.  An analog repeater station also somehow switched from PBS to religious programming for awhile.  Then on Friday night, PBS digital, a Spanish station, and NBC all went black for awhile (during the hockey game!)  But I think they're all settling down now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All my local stations had some problems around that time .
On Thursday night , CBS had an audio problem ( using the wrong channels from the surround sound , I think , so music came through but voices did not .
) On Friday morning , ABC was dropping frames , so movements looked jerky .
An analog repeater station also somehow switched from PBS to religious programming for awhile .
Then on Friday night , PBS digital , a Spanish station , and NBC all went black for awhile ( during the hockey game !
) But I think they 're all settling down now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All my local stations had some problems around that time.
On Thursday night, CBS had an audio problem (using the wrong channels from the surround sound, I think, so music came through but voices did not.
) On Friday morning, ABC was dropping frames, so movements looked jerky.
An analog repeater station also somehow switched from PBS to religious programming for awhile.
Then on Friday night, PBS digital, a Spanish station, and NBC all went black for awhile (during the hockey game!
)  But I think they're all settling down now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326929</id>
	<title>Re:Progress</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244999220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I live in middle of -no-where Texas and I used the DTV box for several months before the switch, and now my channels have dropped to near no signal since everyone else is using the signal. Last week my average signal was in the high 80\%s, now its around 40\% if at all. I guess its good I only watch one show and usually watch it later online anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in middle of -no-where Texas and I used the DTV box for several months before the switch , and now my channels have dropped to near no signal since everyone else is using the signal .
Last week my average signal was in the high 80 \ % s , now its around 40 \ % if at all .
I guess its good I only watch one show and usually watch it later online anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in middle of -no-where Texas and I used the DTV box for several months before the switch, and now my channels have dropped to near no signal since everyone else is using the signal.
Last week my average signal was in the high 80\%s, now its around 40\% if at all.
I guess its good I only watch one show and usually watch it later online anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328621</id>
	<title>Re:I call BS</title>
	<author>certsoft</author>
	<datestamp>1245013140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For my little piece of rural America absolutely nothing changed. Still get three craptacular analog translators (Oregon PBS and TWO copies of the same begging for jesus channel).</htmltext>
<tokenext>For my little piece of rural America absolutely nothing changed .
Still get three craptacular analog translators ( Oregon PBS and TWO copies of the same begging for jesus channel ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For my little piece of rural America absolutely nothing changed.
Still get three craptacular analog translators (Oregon PBS and TWO copies of the same begging for jesus channel).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326533</id>
	<title>Wow manually edit configuration files.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244994660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is more complicated than the kernel update I did last night.<br>
Almost as bad as updating alsa to 1.0.20. (stupid jaunty jackassalope shipped with 1.0.18)<br>
At least windows is starting to be a real OS with the typing and such.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is more complicated than the kernel update I did last night .
Almost as bad as updating alsa to 1.0.20 .
( stupid jaunty jackassalope shipped with 1.0.18 ) At least windows is starting to be a real OS with the typing and such .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is more complicated than the kernel update I did last night.
Almost as bad as updating alsa to 1.0.20.
(stupid jaunty jackassalope shipped with 1.0.18)
At least windows is starting to be a real OS with the typing and such.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327505</id>
	<title>Re:Wow manually edit configuration files.</title>
	<author>Bios\_Hakr</author>
	<datestamp>1245004440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I run a Windows7 Media Center.  The "editing" they are talking about was done from the MCE remote while sitting on my couch.</p><p>I had to do the same thing on my standard HDTV.  Went into the setup menu and told it to re-detect all the available channels.  It took 5 minutes to re-scan and then another 5 minutes of telling it not to add Fox News, Trinity Broadcasting, Home Shopping Network, and other drivel like that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I run a Windows7 Media Center .
The " editing " they are talking about was done from the MCE remote while sitting on my couch.I had to do the same thing on my standard HDTV .
Went into the setup menu and told it to re-detect all the available channels .
It took 5 minutes to re-scan and then another 5 minutes of telling it not to add Fox News , Trinity Broadcasting , Home Shopping Network , and other drivel like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I run a Windows7 Media Center.
The "editing" they are talking about was done from the MCE remote while sitting on my couch.I had to do the same thing on my standard HDTV.
Went into the setup menu and told it to re-detect all the available channels.
It took 5 minutes to re-scan and then another 5 minutes of telling it not to add Fox News, Trinity Broadcasting, Home Shopping Network, and other drivel like that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326533</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327519</id>
	<title>"Idiot box" is Green's favorite derogatory term...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245004620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>they need to hook up to get their fucking <b>idiot box</b> working again</p></div><p>Oh, I'm sorry... you were doing really well, and you blew it right at the last minute.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p><p>Any mention of "idiot box" results in an automatic link to <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28694" title="theonion.com">this article</a> [theonion.com] and Godwinning of the original post. (^\_^)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>they need to hook up to get their fucking idiot box working againOh , I 'm sorry... you were doing really well , and you blew it right at the last minute .
; - ) Any mention of " idiot box " results in an automatic link to this article [ theonion.com ] and Godwinning of the original post .
( ^ \ _ ^ )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they need to hook up to get their fucking idiot box working againOh, I'm sorry... you were doing really well, and you blew it right at the last minute.
;-)Any mention of "idiot box" results in an automatic link to this article [theonion.com] and Godwinning of the original post.
(^\_^)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28333117</id>
	<title>*Do a rescan*</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1245060960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do a rescan.  The same thing happened to us, but apparently some of the frequencies changed during the transition, so you have to rescan to get those channels back.</p><p>It's possible, but I doubt you actually lost any channels unless they just closed shop instead of going digital.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do a rescan .
The same thing happened to us , but apparently some of the frequencies changed during the transition , so you have to rescan to get those channels back.It 's possible , but I doubt you actually lost any channels unless they just closed shop instead of going digital .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do a rescan.
The same thing happened to us, but apparently some of the frequencies changed during the transition, so you have to rescan to get those channels back.It's possible, but I doubt you actually lost any channels unless they just closed shop instead of going digital.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28327841</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28326613</id>
	<title>I was pleasantly surprised...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244995680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got eight new channels on Friday -- the MHz and ION networks went digital in my area, so now I can watch Bollywood movies, English-language Russian TV, NHK Today, and some Chinese thing, among others.</p><p>These actually can be quite interesting to browse -- the Russian take on the Iranian election was kind of interesting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got eight new channels on Friday -- the MHz and ION networks went digital in my area , so now I can watch Bollywood movies , English-language Russian TV , NHK Today , and some Chinese thing , among others.These actually can be quite interesting to browse -- the Russian take on the Iranian election was kind of interesting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got eight new channels on Friday -- the MHz and ION networks went digital in my area, so now I can watch Bollywood movies, English-language Russian TV, NHK Today, and some Chinese thing, among others.These actually can be quite interesting to browse -- the Russian take on the Iranian election was kind of interesting.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_14_1317250.28328385</id>
	<title>Goodnight Sweet Prince</title>
	<author>Delicious Loli</author>
	<datestamp>1245011580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z\_uqNJrugOw" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">WAGA shutdown as seen on analog</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>WAGA shutdown as seen on analog [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WAGA shutdown as seen on analog [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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