<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_11_1950220</id>
	<title>US Switch To DTV Countdown Begins</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1244707860000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:crdecker@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">s31523</a> writes <i>"In February lawmakers postponed the switch from analog to digital TV.  Now, the  <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035\_3-10262022-94.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.1?cnn=yes">new June 12th deadline is upon us</a> with no sign of another delay. CNET is reporting that the President himself has stated, '... I want to be clear: there will not be another delay.' So it looks like it is going to happen, for real this time.  Even with the delay, there are still estimated to be millions of unprepared viewers. Local stations may participate in the voluntary 'Analog nightlight' services in which TV stations agree to keep an analog signal turned on in addition to their digital signals to provide information about the DTV transition and to notify unprepared TV viewers of emergencies, such as hurricanes."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>s31523 writes " In February lawmakers postponed the switch from analog to digital TV .
Now , the new June 12th deadline is upon us with no sign of another delay .
CNET is reporting that the President himself has stated , '... I want to be clear : there will not be another delay .
' So it looks like it is going to happen , for real this time .
Even with the delay , there are still estimated to be millions of unprepared viewers .
Local stations may participate in the voluntary 'Analog nightlight ' services in which TV stations agree to keep an analog signal turned on in addition to their digital signals to provide information about the DTV transition and to notify unprepared TV viewers of emergencies , such as hurricanes .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>s31523 writes "In February lawmakers postponed the switch from analog to digital TV.
Now, the  new June 12th deadline is upon us with no sign of another delay.
CNET is reporting that the President himself has stated, '... I want to be clear: there will not be another delay.
' So it looks like it is going to happen, for real this time.
Even with the delay, there are still estimated to be millions of unprepared viewers.
Local stations may participate in the voluntary 'Analog nightlight' services in which TV stations agree to keep an analog signal turned on in addition to their digital signals to provide information about the DTV transition and to notify unprepared TV viewers of emergencies, such as hurricanes.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300153</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1244714400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Analog TV has much better range than Digital TV, and has much better tolerances with a bad signal.</i> </p><p>The short and simple solution to this problem is to do what your Grandad did in 1950 and his Grandad in 1925:</p><p> You spring for a good external antenna - and you install it by-the-book.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Analog TV has much better range than Digital TV , and has much better tolerances with a bad signal .
The short and simple solution to this problem is to do what your Grandad did in 1950 and his Grandad in 1925 : You spring for a good external antenna - and you install it by-the-book .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Analog TV has much better range than Digital TV, and has much better tolerances with a bad signal.
The short and simple solution to this problem is to do what your Grandad did in 1950 and his Grandad in 1925: You spring for a good external antenna - and you install it by-the-book.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28307797</id>
	<title>Re:Analog TV had the best weather/emergency covera</title>
	<author>relguj9</author>
	<datestamp>1244820060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sorry, I was born after 1950, what's analog TV?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , I was born after 1950 , what 's analog TV ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, I was born after 1950, what's analog TV?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302619</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300095</id>
	<title>Re:Analog nightlight?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244714220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, not all of the bands currently used for analog television will be replaced with digital television or other signals.  At least not immediately.  So there's at least some window for the "nightlight" to be used.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , not all of the bands currently used for analog television will be replaced with digital television or other signals .
At least not immediately .
So there 's at least some window for the " nightlight " to be used .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, not all of the bands currently used for analog television will be replaced with digital television or other signals.
At least not immediately.
So there's at least some window for the "nightlight" to be used.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299419</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301065</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>Eil</author>
	<datestamp>1244717580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Think about when there's bad weather with your satellite dish. The picture is either there, or it's completely gone. With analog, you get varying degrees of static depending on how bad the signal is, but when there's bad weather, like hurricanes or blizzards, you can make out some of what's going on to get the news.</p></div></blockquote><p>While I get what you're saying, and I don't think the analogy is completely useless, you have to keep in mind that satellite and terrestrial signals are completely different in terms of reception and signal propgation. A satellite signal needs two things: accurate alignment of the dish and direct line of sight between the satellite and dish. So while inclement weather does tend to mess with these on a satellite receiver, neither is strictly necessary for a terrestrial broadcast, whether analog or digital.</p><p>Now if your reception of the digital signal was marginal to begin with, then yes, bad weather might degrade the signal enough to make it unwatchable. However, digital receivers seem to vary considerably in the ability to compensate for a spotty signal. Some do quite poorly (just show a black screen with "no signal") while others might show a blocky mess but the audio will at least be intelligible.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Think about when there 's bad weather with your satellite dish .
The picture is either there , or it 's completely gone .
With analog , you get varying degrees of static depending on how bad the signal is , but when there 's bad weather , like hurricanes or blizzards , you can make out some of what 's going on to get the news.While I get what you 're saying , and I do n't think the analogy is completely useless , you have to keep in mind that satellite and terrestrial signals are completely different in terms of reception and signal propgation .
A satellite signal needs two things : accurate alignment of the dish and direct line of sight between the satellite and dish .
So while inclement weather does tend to mess with these on a satellite receiver , neither is strictly necessary for a terrestrial broadcast , whether analog or digital.Now if your reception of the digital signal was marginal to begin with , then yes , bad weather might degrade the signal enough to make it unwatchable .
However , digital receivers seem to vary considerably in the ability to compensate for a spotty signal .
Some do quite poorly ( just show a black screen with " no signal " ) while others might show a blocky mess but the audio will at least be intelligible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Think about when there's bad weather with your satellite dish.
The picture is either there, or it's completely gone.
With analog, you get varying degrees of static depending on how bad the signal is, but when there's bad weather, like hurricanes or blizzards, you can make out some of what's going on to get the news.While I get what you're saying, and I don't think the analogy is completely useless, you have to keep in mind that satellite and terrestrial signals are completely different in terms of reception and signal propgation.
A satellite signal needs two things: accurate alignment of the dish and direct line of sight between the satellite and dish.
So while inclement weather does tend to mess with these on a satellite receiver, neither is strictly necessary for a terrestrial broadcast, whether analog or digital.Now if your reception of the digital signal was marginal to begin with, then yes, bad weather might degrade the signal enough to make it unwatchable.
However, digital receivers seem to vary considerably in the ability to compensate for a spotty signal.
Some do quite poorly (just show a black screen with "no signal") while others might show a blocky mess but the audio will at least be intelligible.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299327</id>
	<title>Nigger</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244711460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like sugar and I like tea,<br>But I dont like Niggers;<br>No siree.<br>There are two lone things thatll make me puke,<br>Thats a hog eating slop and a big black spook.</p><p>And you know it, cause I show it.<br>Like a barn yard rooster I crow it!</p><p>And the NAACP<br>Would sure like to get a hold of nigger haten me.</p><p>Roses are red and violets are blue,<br>And niggers are black.<br>You know thats true.<br>But they dont mind, cause What the heck?!<br>You gotta be black to get a welfare check!</p><p>And Im broke.<br>No joke.<br>I dont gotta nickel for a coke.<br>And I aint black you see,<br>So Uncle Sam wont help<br>Poor Nigger haten me.</p><p>Jigga boo, jigga boo, where are you?<br>I was here in a wood pile watching you!<br>Jigga boo, jigga boo come out<br>I scared of the white man way down south!</p><p>You know it<br>Cause I show it<br>Stick you black head out and Ill blow it!</p><p>And the NAACP<br>Cant keep you away from little ol nigger haten me!</p><p>Mirror, mirror on the wall<br>Who is the blackest of them all?</p><p>A man named King<br>And there aint no doubt<br>That hes causing lotsa trouble with his baboon mouth!</p><p>Roo it, hes a do it<br>Hes caused by the trouble hes brewing<br>And the NAACP<br>Cant win if the white man stick<br>With nigger haten me!</p><p>Hey, Mr. President, what do you say?<br>When are we whites gonna have our day?<br>The niggers had theirs such a long, long time.<br>And its the white mans time that I had mine!</p><p>You know it,<br>Cause I show it!<br>Stick you black head out and Ill blow it!</p><p>And the NAACP<br>Cant win if the white man stick with<br>Nigger haten me(x5)!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like sugar and I like tea,But I dont like Niggers ; No siree.There are two lone things thatll make me puke,Thats a hog eating slop and a big black spook.And you know it , cause I show it.Like a barn yard rooster I crow it ! And the NAACPWould sure like to get a hold of nigger haten me.Roses are red and violets are blue,And niggers are black.You know thats true.But they dont mind , cause What the heck ?
! You got ta be black to get a welfare check ! And Im broke.No joke.I dont got ta nickel for a coke.And I aint black you see,So Uncle Sam wont helpPoor Nigger haten me.Jigga boo , jigga boo , where are you ? I was here in a wood pile watching you ! Jigga boo , jigga boo come outI scared of the white man way down south ! You know itCause I show itStick you black head out and Ill blow it ! And the NAACPCant keep you away from little ol nigger haten me ! Mirror , mirror on the wallWho is the blackest of them all ? A man named KingAnd there aint no doubtThat hes causing lotsa trouble with his baboon mouth ! Roo it , hes a do itHes caused by the trouble hes brewingAnd the NAACPCant win if the white man stickWith nigger haten me ! Hey , Mr. President , what do you say ? When are we whites gon na have our day ? The niggers had theirs such a long , long time.And its the white mans time that I had mine ! You know it,Cause I show it ! Stick you black head out and Ill blow it ! And the NAACPCant win if the white man stick withNigger haten me ( x5 ) !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like sugar and I like tea,But I dont like Niggers;No siree.There are two lone things thatll make me puke,Thats a hog eating slop and a big black spook.And you know it, cause I show it.Like a barn yard rooster I crow it!And the NAACPWould sure like to get a hold of nigger haten me.Roses are red and violets are blue,And niggers are black.You know thats true.But they dont mind, cause What the heck?
!You gotta be black to get a welfare check!And Im broke.No joke.I dont gotta nickel for a coke.And I aint black you see,So Uncle Sam wont helpPoor Nigger haten me.Jigga boo, jigga boo, where are you?I was here in a wood pile watching you!Jigga boo, jigga boo come outI scared of the white man way down south!You know itCause I show itStick you black head out and Ill blow it!And the NAACPCant keep you away from little ol nigger haten me!Mirror, mirror on the wallWho is the blackest of them all?A man named KingAnd there aint no doubtThat hes causing lotsa trouble with his baboon mouth!Roo it, hes a do itHes caused by the trouble hes brewingAnd the NAACPCant win if the white man stickWith nigger haten me!Hey, Mr. President, what do you say?When are we whites gonna have our day?The niggers had theirs such a long, long time.And its the white mans time that I had mine!You know it,Cause I show it!Stick you black head out and Ill blow it!And the NAACPCant win if the white man stick withNigger haten me(x5)!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300867</id>
	<title>Perhaps not unprepared...</title>
	<author>cromar</author>
	<datestamp>1244716860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>there are still millions of estimated viewers that are unprepared</p></div><p>For what it's worth, some of us just don't give a fuck about broadcast TV and are looking forward to our signals being cut off.  There're always Hulu and torrents, not to mention DVD rentals.  So... don't forget about all two of us who aren't "unprepared," but are in fact awaiting a time when we won't be able to receive broadcast video!  Vive la revolution!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>there are still millions of estimated viewers that are unpreparedFor what it 's worth , some of us just do n't give a fuck about broadcast TV and are looking forward to our signals being cut off .
There 're always Hulu and torrents , not to mention DVD rentals .
So... do n't forget about all two of us who are n't " unprepared , " but are in fact awaiting a time when we wo n't be able to receive broadcast video !
Vive la revolution !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there are still millions of estimated viewers that are unpreparedFor what it's worth, some of us just don't give a fuck about broadcast TV and are looking forward to our signals being cut off.
There're always Hulu and torrents, not to mention DVD rentals.
So... don't forget about all two of us who aren't "unprepared," but are in fact awaiting a time when we won't be able to receive broadcast video!
Vive la revolution!
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299837</id>
	<title>Re:We're Doing this for You ... r Money</title>
	<author>Anubis IV</author>
	<datestamp>1244713260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What are you talking about?  HTML 5 is already being supported and pushed by Safari and Chrome at the very least, and I'm not up to date on them, but I'm sure Firefox and Opera are right up there as well on supporting it.  The government has no involvement at all in dealing with HTML 5, and I fail to see how it can "auction off" HTML 4 at all.
<br>
<br>
You may have a case with IPv4, but I haven't seen or heard any rumblings of that sort of thing happening.  Any sources you can cite?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What are you talking about ?
HTML 5 is already being supported and pushed by Safari and Chrome at the very least , and I 'm not up to date on them , but I 'm sure Firefox and Opera are right up there as well on supporting it .
The government has no involvement at all in dealing with HTML 5 , and I fail to see how it can " auction off " HTML 4 at all .
You may have a case with IPv4 , but I have n't seen or heard any rumblings of that sort of thing happening .
Any sources you can cite ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are you talking about?
HTML 5 is already being supported and pushed by Safari and Chrome at the very least, and I'm not up to date on them, but I'm sure Firefox and Opera are right up there as well on supporting it.
The government has no involvement at all in dealing with HTML 5, and I fail to see how it can "auction off" HTML 4 at all.
You may have a case with IPv4, but I haven't seen or heard any rumblings of that sort of thing happening.
Any sources you can cite?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299949</id>
	<title>Corruption</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244713680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The article says that Congress has spent $2 billion on transition and "public education" efforts. Yet 2.5 million people were not given $40 vouchers because "money ran dry"? So you spend $2 billion telling people to get a converter, but won't spend another $100 million so that people can actually afford a converter? Brilliant? Oh right, those billions went into some politicians' pockets, not anywhere near the consumers...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The article says that Congress has spent $ 2 billion on transition and " public education " efforts .
Yet 2.5 million people were not given $ 40 vouchers because " money ran dry " ?
So you spend $ 2 billion telling people to get a converter , but wo n't spend another $ 100 million so that people can actually afford a converter ?
Brilliant ? Oh right , those billions went into some politicians ' pockets , not anywhere near the consumers.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article says that Congress has spent $2 billion on transition and "public education" efforts.
Yet 2.5 million people were not given $40 vouchers because "money ran dry"?
So you spend $2 billion telling people to get a converter, but won't spend another $100 million so that people can actually afford a converter?
Brilliant? Oh right, those billions went into some politicians' pockets, not anywhere near the consumers...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301189</id>
	<title>LA area Analog Termination Event</title>
	<author>TheSync</author>
	<datestamp>1244718120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you are in LA, feel free to drop by Machine Project on Friday June 12th at 10pm for a talk by Jason Torchinsky about mechanical televisions, to be followed by a midnight countdown to the demise of analog TV. In memoriam of the TVs we all have known and loved/hated, we'll be gathering a pyramid of old TVs together for a countdown as they go to static. Please join us, and if you promise to bring it home with you afterwards, bring a TV for the pyramid.</p><p><a href="http://machineproject.com/events/2009/06/12/farewell-to-analog-tv/" title="machineproject.com">Farewell to Analog TV</a> [machineproject.com] at Machine Project, Echo Park.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you are in LA , feel free to drop by Machine Project on Friday June 12th at 10pm for a talk by Jason Torchinsky about mechanical televisions , to be followed by a midnight countdown to the demise of analog TV .
In memoriam of the TVs we all have known and loved/hated , we 'll be gathering a pyramid of old TVs together for a countdown as they go to static .
Please join us , and if you promise to bring it home with you afterwards , bring a TV for the pyramid.Farewell to Analog TV [ machineproject.com ] at Machine Project , Echo Park .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you are in LA, feel free to drop by Machine Project on Friday June 12th at 10pm for a talk by Jason Torchinsky about mechanical televisions, to be followed by a midnight countdown to the demise of analog TV.
In memoriam of the TVs we all have known and loved/hated, we'll be gathering a pyramid of old TVs together for a countdown as they go to static.
Please join us, and if you promise to bring it home with you afterwards, bring a TV for the pyramid.Farewell to Analog TV [machineproject.com] at Machine Project, Echo Park.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301637</id>
	<title>Re: my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>B\_SharpC</author>
	<datestamp>1244719980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If God wanted Digital, he would not have<br>made our brains Analog.</p><p>Digital is just a passing New Age fad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If God wanted Digital , he would not havemade our brains Analog.Digital is just a passing New Age fad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If God wanted Digital, he would not havemade our brains Analog.Digital is just a passing New Age fad.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300511</id>
	<title>Re:The delay was unnecessary</title>
	<author>ParanoiaBOTS</author>
	<datestamp>1244715480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The only way to get the masses to switch is to force it upon them.  Hence the continuing popularity of Windows XP.</p></div><p>And IE6, Herpes of the internet</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only way to get the masses to switch is to force it upon them .
Hence the continuing popularity of Windows XP.And IE6 , Herpes of the internet</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only way to get the masses to switch is to force it upon them.
Hence the continuing popularity of Windows XP.And IE6, Herpes of the internet
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299919</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300423</id>
	<title>Emergency Info? Get Serious.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244715240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the station is going to be broadcasting a "How to switch to DTV" Message, what are the odds someone will be watching it all day long and actually be watching when an emergency broadcast is sent?  Slim 2 None.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the station is going to be broadcasting a " How to switch to DTV " Message , what are the odds someone will be watching it all day long and actually be watching when an emergency broadcast is sent ?
Slim 2 None .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the station is going to be broadcasting a "How to switch to DTV" Message, what are the odds someone will be watching it all day long and actually be watching when an emergency broadcast is sent?
Slim 2 None.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303975</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>beav007</author>
	<datestamp>1244736960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There's tons of people who are going to be cut off because of this.</p></div><p>This is in the USA - is it really that big a deal if 8 people get cut off?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's tons of people who are going to be cut off because of this.This is in the USA - is it really that big a deal if 8 people get cut off ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's tons of people who are going to be cut off because of this.This is in the USA - is it really that big a deal if 8 people get cut off?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303307</id>
	<title>The world according to Mac</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244731320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;The only way to get the masses to switch is to force it upon them.</p><p>So sayeth Saint Steve, therefor it must be true.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; The only way to get the masses to switch is to force it upon them.So sayeth Saint Steve , therefor it must be true .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;The only way to get the masses to switch is to force it upon them.So sayeth Saint Steve, therefor it must be true.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299919</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299419</id>
	<title>Analog nightlight?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244711760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought that with the transition, the old analog frequencies were being reclaimed.  Some of the ATSC stations will change frequencies and broadcast digital where the analog used to be.  So are they delaying the completion of the transition to allow for this nightlight service?  When will we have our stations at their final frequencies?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought that with the transition , the old analog frequencies were being reclaimed .
Some of the ATSC stations will change frequencies and broadcast digital where the analog used to be .
So are they delaying the completion of the transition to allow for this nightlight service ?
When will we have our stations at their final frequencies ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought that with the transition, the old analog frequencies were being reclaimed.
Some of the ATSC stations will change frequencies and broadcast digital where the analog used to be.
So are they delaying the completion of the transition to allow for this nightlight service?
When will we have our stations at their final frequencies?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302351</id>
	<title>Bad weather signal</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1244724120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your cable/dish/sat goes out when it rains and you cant get weather updates?  Well, thats why we have radio.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your cable/dish/sat goes out when it rains and you cant get weather updates ?
Well , thats why we have radio .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your cable/dish/sat goes out when it rains and you cant get weather updates?
Well, thats why we have radio.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300709</id>
	<title>Re:The delay was unnecessary</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1244716320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>The only way to get the masses to switch is to force it upon them. Hence the continuing popularity of Windows XP.</i> <p>
XP 62\%<br>Vista 24\%<br>OSX 8\%<br>W2K 1\%<br>Linux 0.99\%<br>Win7 0.42\%</p><p>
<a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10" title="hitslink.com">Operating System Market Share</a> [hitslink.com] [May}</p><p>
So about 1 in 4 in the consumer market have migrated to Vista - I'd say almost certainly to a new mid-line laptop or desktop.</p><p>
It will be a tad embarrassing for the geek if Win7 overtakes Linux before its RTM in October.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only way to get the masses to switch is to force it upon them .
Hence the continuing popularity of Windows XP .
XP 62 \ % Vista 24 \ % OSX 8 \ % W2K 1 \ % Linux 0.99 \ % Win7 0.42 \ % Operating System Market Share [ hitslink.com ] [ May } So about 1 in 4 in the consumer market have migrated to Vista - I 'd say almost certainly to a new mid-line laptop or desktop .
It will be a tad embarrassing for the geek if Win7 overtakes Linux before its RTM in October .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only way to get the masses to switch is to force it upon them.
Hence the continuing popularity of Windows XP.
XP 62\%Vista 24\%OSX 8\%W2K 1\%Linux 0.99\%Win7 0.42\%
Operating System Market Share [hitslink.com] [May}
So about 1 in 4 in the consumer market have migrated to Vista - I'd say almost certainly to a new mid-line laptop or desktop.
It will be a tad embarrassing for the geek if Win7 overtakes Linux before its RTM in October.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299919</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301047</id>
	<title>Re:The delay was unnecessary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244717580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the reason XP still exists is that Vista is a piece of shit and Win7 is only Vista SP2 but certainly not free. The market works an MS is just learning that now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the reason XP still exists is that Vista is a piece of shit and Win7 is only Vista SP2 but certainly not free .
The market works an MS is just learning that now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the reason XP still exists is that Vista is a piece of shit and Win7 is only Vista SP2 but certainly not free.
The market works an MS is just learning that now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299919</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299809</id>
	<title>It's not going to really happen!</title>
	<author>VincenzoRomano</author>
	<datestamp>1244713200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As the internet and the sat TV is altrady here.<br>
And personally don't mind about TV: books are better by far. And they can be both digital and analogue at the same time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As the internet and the sat TV is altrady here .
And personally do n't mind about TV : books are better by far .
And they can be both digital and analogue at the same time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As the internet and the sat TV is altrady here.
And personally don't mind about TV: books are better by far.
And they can be both digital and analogue at the same time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301723</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244720460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The picture is either there, or it's completely gone.</p></div><p>Nah; I've seen plenty of crappy pixellated video on digital TV.  The "now you see it, now you don't" seems to be per pixel or packet rather than per frame.  But you're right -- the digital fringe is much closer to the transmitter than what used to be called "fringe reception" on analog.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The picture is either there , or it 's completely gone.Nah ; I 've seen plenty of crappy pixellated video on digital TV .
The " now you see it , now you do n't " seems to be per pixel or packet rather than per frame .
But you 're right -- the digital fringe is much closer to the transmitter than what used to be called " fringe reception " on analog .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The picture is either there, or it's completely gone.Nah; I've seen plenty of crappy pixellated video on digital TV.
The "now you see it, now you don't" seems to be per pixel or packet rather than per frame.
But you're right -- the digital fringe is much closer to the transmitter than what used to be called "fringe reception" on analog.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301037</id>
	<title>Another switch the US needs to make..</title>
	<author>ockers</author>
	<datestamp>1244717520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Could we get going on the switch to the metric system now please?  It would require about the same amount of effort and consumer education.  Yards, acres, miles, feet - come on people, this is not the 1800s.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Could we get going on the switch to the metric system now please ?
It would require about the same amount of effort and consumer education .
Yards , acres , miles , feet - come on people , this is not the 1800s .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could we get going on the switch to the metric system now please?
It would require about the same amount of effort and consumer education.
Yards, acres, miles, feet - come on people, this is not the 1800s.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28308069</id>
	<title>Re:seriously...</title>
	<author>relguj9</author>
	<datestamp>1244821020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This isn't a generational thing.  I know people in their 70's with big screen HDTV's who have had cable the past 15 years.  They don't <i>understand</i> anything about it, but they know how to plug a blue connector into a blue hole and press a few fucking buttons.  It's probably easier to use cable than it is to use analog anyways.<br> <br>

My take is that if they care enough to watch TV, then they can care enough to make it work or get someone to help them make it work when they're told that it soon won't work.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't a generational thing .
I know people in their 70 's with big screen HDTV 's who have had cable the past 15 years .
They do n't understand anything about it , but they know how to plug a blue connector into a blue hole and press a few fucking buttons .
It 's probably easier to use cable than it is to use analog anyways .
My take is that if they care enough to watch TV , then they can care enough to make it work or get someone to help them make it work when they 're told that it soon wo n't work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't a generational thing.
I know people in their 70's with big screen HDTV's who have had cable the past 15 years.
They don't understand anything about it, but they know how to plug a blue connector into a blue hole and press a few fucking buttons.
It's probably easier to use cable than it is to use analog anyways.
My take is that if they care enough to watch TV, then they can care enough to make it work or get someone to help them make it work when they're told that it soon won't work.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301785</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28313261</id>
	<title>Re:REPENT!</title>
	<author>RomulusNR</author>
	<datestamp>1244797560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It occurred to me just a few minutes ago that we're going to start seeing all the stupid problems that were encountered with the rise in cable TV and VCRs in the mid eighties.</p><p>As in, you've got to wire this in front of that, not the other way; and yes it has to be plugged in; and no, you can't do that without another box; and no, it's THIS remote, not THAT one, etc., etc.</p><p>Not to mention a horde of Best Buy et al hacks installing them wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It occurred to me just a few minutes ago that we 're going to start seeing all the stupid problems that were encountered with the rise in cable TV and VCRs in the mid eighties.As in , you 've got to wire this in front of that , not the other way ; and yes it has to be plugged in ; and no , you ca n't do that without another box ; and no , it 's THIS remote , not THAT one , etc. , etc.Not to mention a horde of Best Buy et al hacks installing them wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It occurred to me just a few minutes ago that we're going to start seeing all the stupid problems that were encountered with the rise in cable TV and VCRs in the mid eighties.As in, you've got to wire this in front of that, not the other way; and yes it has to be plugged in; and no, you can't do that without another box; and no, it's THIS remote, not THAT one, etc., etc.Not to mention a horde of Best Buy et al hacks installing them wrong.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299719</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28310627</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>Jon\_S</author>
	<datestamp>1244831220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are plenty of options.  You can use two antennas and merge their feeds, although you lose some signal strength that way.  But many antennas can pick up a good signal out the back side even though they are "directional" towards the other way.  That's what I did for my mythtv (DVR) set up rather than going with a rotor.  Trial and error pointing with small azimuthal changes can perfect the reception.  I actually had to end up pointing a null node towards the closed antenna since it was coming in to strong, but still managed to get good reception from the antenna clusters in the second and third directions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are plenty of options .
You can use two antennas and merge their feeds , although you lose some signal strength that way .
But many antennas can pick up a good signal out the back side even though they are " directional " towards the other way .
That 's what I did for my mythtv ( DVR ) set up rather than going with a rotor .
Trial and error pointing with small azimuthal changes can perfect the reception .
I actually had to end up pointing a null node towards the closed antenna since it was coming in to strong , but still managed to get good reception from the antenna clusters in the second and third directions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are plenty of options.
You can use two antennas and merge their feeds, although you lose some signal strength that way.
But many antennas can pick up a good signal out the back side even though they are "directional" towards the other way.
That's what I did for my mythtv (DVR) set up rather than going with a rotor.
Trial and error pointing with small azimuthal changes can perfect the reception.
I actually had to end up pointing a null node towards the closed antenna since it was coming in to strong, but still managed to get good reception from the antenna clusters in the second and third directions.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303871</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>CastrTroy</author>
	<datestamp>1244712000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's tons of people who are going to be cut off because of this.  Analog TV has much better range than Digital TV, and has much better tolerances with a bad signal.  Think about when there's bad weather with your satellite dish.  The picture is either there, or it's completely gone. With analog, you get varying degrees of static depending on how bad the signal is, but when there's bad weather, like hurricanes or blizzards, you can make out some of what's going on to get the news.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's tons of people who are going to be cut off because of this .
Analog TV has much better range than Digital TV , and has much better tolerances with a bad signal .
Think about when there 's bad weather with your satellite dish .
The picture is either there , or it 's completely gone .
With analog , you get varying degrees of static depending on how bad the signal is , but when there 's bad weather , like hurricanes or blizzards , you can make out some of what 's going on to get the news .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's tons of people who are going to be cut off because of this.
Analog TV has much better range than Digital TV, and has much better tolerances with a bad signal.
Think about when there's bad weather with your satellite dish.
The picture is either there, or it's completely gone.
With analog, you get varying degrees of static depending on how bad the signal is, but when there's bad weather, like hurricanes or blizzards, you can make out some of what's going on to get the news.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300469</id>
	<title>Say Goodbye to my TurboExpress TV Tuner</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244715360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tonight I will be watching tv on my TurboGrafx-16 TurboExpress until midnight, after that it will be worthless. Granted it will probably use 8 batteries a hour to do it.

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboExpress" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboExpress</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tonight I will be watching tv on my TurboGrafx-16 TurboExpress until midnight , after that it will be worthless .
Granted it will probably use 8 batteries a hour to do it .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboExpress [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tonight I will be watching tv on my TurboGrafx-16 TurboExpress until midnight, after that it will be worthless.
Granted it will probably use 8 batteries a hour to do it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboExpress [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304879</id>
	<title>Re:seriously...</title>
	<author>Lunzo</author>
	<datestamp>1244749200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I work for a company the supplies a large proportion of the world with digital content distribution equipment (as a s/w engineer, it's a rather cool job - quite a lot of what people watch/hear has been touched (not necessarily in a good way<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) ) by my code).</p></div> </blockquote><p>

I hope you've been putting in subliminal messages as an Easter egg. e.g. splicing in frames of hard-core porn randomly every couple of hours.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I work for a company the supplies a large proportion of the world with digital content distribution equipment ( as a s/w engineer , it 's a rather cool job - quite a lot of what people watch/hear has been touched ( not necessarily in a good way ; ) ) by my code ) .
I hope you 've been putting in subliminal messages as an Easter egg .
e.g. splicing in frames of hard-core porn randomly every couple of hours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work for a company the supplies a large proportion of the world with digital content distribution equipment (as a s/w engineer, it's a rather cool job - quite a lot of what people watch/hear has been touched (not necessarily in a good way ;) ) by my code).
I hope you've been putting in subliminal messages as an Easter egg.
e.g. splicing in frames of hard-core porn randomly every couple of hours.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301785</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300923</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>CodeBuster</author>
	<datestamp>1244717100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>so she can still get her damn Judge Judy.</p></div><p>Does she read the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Globe\_(tabloid)" title="wikipedia.org">Globe</a> [wikipedia.org] or the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National\_Inquirer" title="wikipedia.org">National Inquirer</a> [wikipedia.org] as well? You have to admit, its pretty funny how well some people fit the typical marketing profiles.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>so she can still get her damn Judge Judy.Does she read the Globe [ wikipedia.org ] or the National Inquirer [ wikipedia.org ] as well ?
You have to admit , its pretty funny how well some people fit the typical marketing profiles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so she can still get her damn Judge Judy.Does she read the Globe [wikipedia.org] or the National Inquirer [wikipedia.org] as well?
You have to admit, its pretty funny how well some people fit the typical marketing profiles.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299923</id>
	<title>Curious side-effect of the DTV switchover</title>
	<author>Muad'Dave</author>
	<datestamp>1244713560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Curiously, an FM radio station I'd like to listen to says they'll be able to throttle up the power once NTSC station WTVR channel 6 in Richmond goes silent.</p><p>I don't know what rule is limiting their transmission on 89.5 MHz due to interference with TV channel 6 (82-88 MHz, with the video carrier on 83.25 MHz and the audio carrier on 87.75 MHz). </p><p>I suppose it's an IF thing, but I can't figure out how 10.7 MHz or 45 MHz fits in there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Curiously , an FM radio station I 'd like to listen to says they 'll be able to throttle up the power once NTSC station WTVR channel 6 in Richmond goes silent.I do n't know what rule is limiting their transmission on 89.5 MHz due to interference with TV channel 6 ( 82-88 MHz , with the video carrier on 83.25 MHz and the audio carrier on 87.75 MHz ) .
I suppose it 's an IF thing , but I ca n't figure out how 10.7 MHz or 45 MHz fits in there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Curiously, an FM radio station I'd like to listen to says they'll be able to throttle up the power once NTSC station WTVR channel 6 in Richmond goes silent.I don't know what rule is limiting their transmission on 89.5 MHz due to interference with TV channel 6 (82-88 MHz, with the video carrier on 83.25 MHz and the audio carrier on 87.75 MHz).
I suppose it's an IF thing, but I can't figure out how 10.7 MHz or 45 MHz fits in there.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28308049</id>
	<title>Re:seriously...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244820900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sorry, but anyone who can't grasp the digital switch IS a moron, technically-inclined or not. If a person watches TV enough to be annoyed by the switchover, they damn well better at least have a slight understanding. And if they don't, maybe their lack of TV reception will give them some time to educate themselves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry , but anyone who ca n't grasp the digital switch IS a moron , technically-inclined or not .
If a person watches TV enough to be annoyed by the switchover , they damn well better at least have a slight understanding .
And if they do n't , maybe their lack of TV reception will give them some time to educate themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry, but anyone who can't grasp the digital switch IS a moron, technically-inclined or not.
If a person watches TV enough to be annoyed by the switchover, they damn well better at least have a slight understanding.
And if they don't, maybe their lack of TV reception will give them some time to educate themselves.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301785</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299737</id>
	<title>Re:Analog nightlight?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244712960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In addition to the nightlights only being around for 30 days at most (check the links), I am sure it takes time, lots of time, for the bureaucratic process and paperwork to get done before those frequencies are actually allocated or even put to use by anyone else.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In addition to the nightlights only being around for 30 days at most ( check the links ) , I am sure it takes time , lots of time , for the bureaucratic process and paperwork to get done before those frequencies are actually allocated or even put to use by anyone else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In addition to the nightlights only being around for 30 days at most (check the links), I am sure it takes time, lots of time, for the bureaucratic process and paperwork to get done before those frequencies are actually allocated or even put to use by anyone else.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299419</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303997</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>NablaKubos</author>
	<datestamp>1244737140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>May the goddess grant that you have grandchildren....</htmltext>
<tokenext>May the goddess grant that you have grandchildren... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>May the goddess grant that you have grandchildren....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300973</id>
	<title>Re:Curious side-effect of the DTV switchover</title>
	<author>budcub</author>
	<datestamp>1244717280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm no radio buff, but I found this:</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM\_broadcast\_band#Historic\_US\_bandplan" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM\_broadcast\_band#Historic\_US\_bandplan</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p><br>In March 2008, the FCC requested public comment on turning the bandwidth currently occupied by analog channels 5 and 6 (76&#226;"88 MHz) over to extending the FM broadcast band when the digital television transition is completed in February 2009.[1] This proposed allocation would effectively assign frequencies corresponding to the existing Japanese FM radio service (which begins at 76 MHz) for use as an extension to the existing North American FM broadcast band.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm no radio buff , but I found this : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM \ _broadcast \ _band # Historic \ _US \ _bandplan [ wikipedia.org ] In March 2008 , the FCC requested public comment on turning the bandwidth currently occupied by analog channels 5 and 6 ( 76   " 88 MHz ) over to extending the FM broadcast band when the digital television transition is completed in February 2009 .
[ 1 ] This proposed allocation would effectively assign frequencies corresponding to the existing Japanese FM radio service ( which begins at 76 MHz ) for use as an extension to the existing North American FM broadcast band .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm no radio buff, but I found this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM\_broadcast\_band#Historic\_US\_bandplan [wikipedia.org]In March 2008, the FCC requested public comment on turning the bandwidth currently occupied by analog channels 5 and 6 (76â"88 MHz) over to extending the FM broadcast band when the digital television transition is completed in February 2009.
[1] This proposed allocation would effectively assign frequencies corresponding to the existing Japanese FM radio service (which begins at 76 MHz) for use as an extension to the existing North American FM broadcast band.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299923</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300257</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Editor:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244714760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>A friend who uses an indoor antenna bought a digital TV, and now only has four stations</i> </p><p>Are the digital signals being broadcast at full power?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A friend who uses an indoor antenna bought a digital TV , and now only has four stations Are the digital signals being broadcast at full power ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A friend who uses an indoor antenna bought a digital TV, and now only has four stations Are the digital signals being broadcast at full power?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302679</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244726220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No shit.  I live in an apartment, and DTV sucks it big time.  I don't get the ONE station I like to watch, but I get the rest of the crap.  Can't mount an external antenna to a condo.  Kinda frustrated by this whole deal; I just hope we're going to get some cool portable devices running on whitespace bands to make up for this inconvenience.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No shit .
I live in an apartment , and DTV sucks it big time .
I do n't get the ONE station I like to watch , but I get the rest of the crap .
Ca n't mount an external antenna to a condo .
Kinda frustrated by this whole deal ; I just hope we 're going to get some cool portable devices running on whitespace bands to make up for this inconvenience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No shit.
I live in an apartment, and DTV sucks it big time.
I don't get the ONE station I like to watch, but I get the rest of the crap.
Can't mount an external antenna to a condo.
Kinda frustrated by this whole deal; I just hope we're going to get some cool portable devices running on whitespace bands to make up for this inconvenience.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299367</id>
	<title>"Februrary"?</title>
	<author>Petersko</author>
	<datestamp>1244711640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>What... you thought "February" was too easy to pronounce correctly?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What... you thought " February " was too easy to pronounce correctly ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What... you thought "February" was too easy to pronounce correctly?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304335</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244740620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>On a related topic, the U.S. version of DTV results in a noticeable delay to change channels / reacquire signal.</p></div><p>The MPEG encoding only sends a complete frame something like every two seconds.</p><p>DTV devices need different amounts of load time in order to display the MPEG stream. You can see different manufacturers implement the decoding differently. If you have two digital TVs from different manufacturers tuned to the same station in the same room you will see/hear a time offset. This never happened with analog.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>On a related topic , the U.S. version of DTV results in a noticeable delay to change channels / reacquire signal.The MPEG encoding only sends a complete frame something like every two seconds.DTV devices need different amounts of load time in order to display the MPEG stream .
You can see different manufacturers implement the decoding differently .
If you have two digital TVs from different manufacturers tuned to the same station in the same room you will see/hear a time offset .
This never happened with analog .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On a related topic, the U.S. version of DTV results in a noticeable delay to change channels / reacquire signal.The MPEG encoding only sends a complete frame something like every two seconds.DTV devices need different amounts of load time in order to display the MPEG stream.
You can see different manufacturers implement the decoding differently.
If you have two digital TVs from different manufacturers tuned to the same station in the same room you will see/hear a time offset.
This never happened with analog.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299769</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300917</id>
	<title>Finally...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244717100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am psyched!  My wife and I were getting Direct TV until a few weeks ago.  We recently got a new TV and tried to tune into the digital channels over the air and were pleasantly surprised.  In fact, the increased quality of the network channels for free prompted me to cancel our basic cable (well, dish really) package instead of paying MORE to "upgrade" HD cable.  </p><p>I figure why pay pay to watch commercials when I can get them in HD for free?  </p><p>The cable company was a little disappointed, but they can go die.  I can't believe they expected me to pay MORE money to upgrade to HD digital service when low rez analog service was going away anyway. </p><p>The best part is that you get to keep the dish on the roof!  Bonus! </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am psyched !
My wife and I were getting Direct TV until a few weeks ago .
We recently got a new TV and tried to tune into the digital channels over the air and were pleasantly surprised .
In fact , the increased quality of the network channels for free prompted me to cancel our basic cable ( well , dish really ) package instead of paying MORE to " upgrade " HD cable .
I figure why pay pay to watch commercials when I can get them in HD for free ?
The cable company was a little disappointed , but they can go die .
I ca n't believe they expected me to pay MORE money to upgrade to HD digital service when low rez analog service was going away anyway .
The best part is that you get to keep the dish on the roof !
Bonus !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am psyched!
My wife and I were getting Direct TV until a few weeks ago.
We recently got a new TV and tried to tune into the digital channels over the air and were pleasantly surprised.
In fact, the increased quality of the network channels for free prompted me to cancel our basic cable (well, dish really) package instead of paying MORE to "upgrade" HD cable.
I figure why pay pay to watch commercials when I can get them in HD for free?
The cable company was a little disappointed, but they can go die.
I can't believe they expected me to pay MORE money to upgrade to HD digital service when low rez analog service was going away anyway.
The best part is that you get to keep the dish on the roof!
Bonus! </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301577</id>
	<title>Re:We're Doing this for You ... r Money</title>
	<author>Squeeself</author>
	<datestamp>1244719680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ah, but if all the servers in the US were IPv6, it wouldn't be very long at all until the rest of the world followed suite...

Kinda helps with the largest single block of the internet swaps.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah , but if all the servers in the US were IPv6 , it would n't be very long at all until the rest of the world followed suite.. . Kinda helps with the largest single block of the internet swaps .
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah, but if all the servers in the US were IPv6, it wouldn't be very long at all until the rest of the world followed suite...

Kinda helps with the largest single block of the internet swaps.
:P</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299785</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299979</id>
	<title>Arnold just shot a hole through my newscaster!!!!</title>
	<author>Wargames</author>
	<datestamp>1244713800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>TV is the opiate of the proletariat, us highfalooting technocrats have the internet.  That said, and given that I am too highfalootin to pay to watch commercials...
<p>
When the reception is good the new over the air DTV picture is way better than analog though often there is a noticable delay between the visual and the audio tracks.  This is annoying.  You see the mouth move then hear the words a tenth of a second too late.  When the reception is bad, DTV degrades poorly and you see ghosts and block people moving around.   This is annoying.  Analog tv seemed to degrade in a nicer and recover faster as well. Losing a signal on DTV is like the DVDs when your watching a movie and it gets stuck and there is no way to advance the tracking. Then a blue screen comes up and says "Bad or no Signal".
</p><p>
I wonder what seeing block people does to your animus psyche/subconscious. You could be watching the news and just then the foxy weather lady looks like a new T4 with a hole in her body.  It is mildly uncomfortable to watch more so than the analog.
</p><p>
This move to DTV is surely going to be a boon for the providers of paid tv.  And as an old time cynical<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.er, I would be interested to see if there is a tidy correlation between cable provider profits and over the air DTV complaints...
</p><p>
--A future cable subscriber.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TV is the opiate of the proletariat , us highfalooting technocrats have the internet .
That said , and given that I am too highfalootin to pay to watch commercials.. . When the reception is good the new over the air DTV picture is way better than analog though often there is a noticable delay between the visual and the audio tracks .
This is annoying .
You see the mouth move then hear the words a tenth of a second too late .
When the reception is bad , DTV degrades poorly and you see ghosts and block people moving around .
This is annoying .
Analog tv seemed to degrade in a nicer and recover faster as well .
Losing a signal on DTV is like the DVDs when your watching a movie and it gets stuck and there is no way to advance the tracking .
Then a blue screen comes up and says " Bad or no Signal " .
I wonder what seeing block people does to your animus psyche/subconscious .
You could be watching the news and just then the foxy weather lady looks like a new T4 with a hole in her body .
It is mildly uncomfortable to watch more so than the analog .
This move to DTV is surely going to be a boon for the providers of paid tv .
And as an old time cynical /.er , I would be interested to see if there is a tidy correlation between cable provider profits and over the air DTV complaints.. . --A future cable subscriber .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TV is the opiate of the proletariat, us highfalooting technocrats have the internet.
That said, and given that I am too highfalootin to pay to watch commercials...

When the reception is good the new over the air DTV picture is way better than analog though often there is a noticable delay between the visual and the audio tracks.
This is annoying.
You see the mouth move then hear the words a tenth of a second too late.
When the reception is bad, DTV degrades poorly and you see ghosts and block people moving around.
This is annoying.
Analog tv seemed to degrade in a nicer and recover faster as well.
Losing a signal on DTV is like the DVDs when your watching a movie and it gets stuck and there is no way to advance the tracking.
Then a blue screen comes up and says "Bad or no Signal".
I wonder what seeing block people does to your animus psyche/subconscious.
You could be watching the news and just then the foxy weather lady looks like a new T4 with a hole in her body.
It is mildly uncomfortable to watch more so than the analog.
This move to DTV is surely going to be a boon for the providers of paid tv.
And as an old time cynical /.er, I would be interested to see if there is a tidy correlation between cable provider profits and over the air DTV complaints...

--A future cable subscriber.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300187</id>
	<title>Re:"Februrary"?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244714580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What... you thought "February" was too easy to pronounce correctly?</p></div><p>The correct spelling is Frebrurary -- just try to say ten times quickly.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What... you thought " February " was too easy to pronounce correctly ? The correct spelling is Frebrurary -- just try to say ten times quickly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What... you thought "February" was too easy to pronounce correctly?The correct spelling is Frebrurary -- just try to say ten times quickly.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299367</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28305283</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1244798340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure, digital is (well, appears to the user as if it were) all or nothing, for the most part.</p><p>But rain fade on satellite is something different... rain simply attenuates RF at higher frequencies, particularly above 10GHz. Lots of things do... 2.4GHz is pretty hard hit by walls, and blocked by a relatively small band of forest. UHF frequencies are largely unaffected by rain. There are other issues in general: much larger fresnel zone radius (which is why rooftop antennas work better than ground-level, all else being equal), more potential interference (highly illegal, but there are many unintentional noise sources), doppler and multipath fading in mobile applications, etc. (those latter being 8VSB-based, not frequency related.. in fact, multipath cancellation is less likely at UHF than higher frequencies).</p><p>Of course, "use the internet" presupposes you're wired. If you have access to wired internet, you probably also have cable or FiOS available, which limits weather issues, at least between you and the head-end. Of course, head ends often use satellite downlinks, but they're on C-band satellites, which are more sensitive and lose much less at 3.7&#226;"4.2 GHz downlink than the Ka-Ku band DBS satellites (Dish, DirecTV) at 12.2-12.7 GHz (Ku band) and 26.5-40 GHz (Ka band). Conversely, if you're on satellite TV, there's a good chance you're on satellite for Internet, too. Like me, tragically enough.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , digital is ( well , appears to the user as if it were ) all or nothing , for the most part.But rain fade on satellite is something different... rain simply attenuates RF at higher frequencies , particularly above 10GHz .
Lots of things do... 2.4GHz is pretty hard hit by walls , and blocked by a relatively small band of forest .
UHF frequencies are largely unaffected by rain .
There are other issues in general : much larger fresnel zone radius ( which is why rooftop antennas work better than ground-level , all else being equal ) , more potential interference ( highly illegal , but there are many unintentional noise sources ) , doppler and multipath fading in mobile applications , etc .
( those latter being 8VSB-based , not frequency related.. in fact , multipath cancellation is less likely at UHF than higher frequencies ) .Of course , " use the internet " presupposes you 're wired .
If you have access to wired internet , you probably also have cable or FiOS available , which limits weather issues , at least between you and the head-end .
Of course , head ends often use satellite downlinks , but they 're on C-band satellites , which are more sensitive and lose much less at 3.7   " 4.2 GHz downlink than the Ka-Ku band DBS satellites ( Dish , DirecTV ) at 12.2-12.7 GHz ( Ku band ) and 26.5-40 GHz ( Ka band ) .
Conversely , if you 're on satellite TV , there 's a good chance you 're on satellite for Internet , too .
Like me , tragically enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, digital is (well, appears to the user as if it were) all or nothing, for the most part.But rain fade on satellite is something different... rain simply attenuates RF at higher frequencies, particularly above 10GHz.
Lots of things do... 2.4GHz is pretty hard hit by walls, and blocked by a relatively small band of forest.
UHF frequencies are largely unaffected by rain.
There are other issues in general: much larger fresnel zone radius (which is why rooftop antennas work better than ground-level, all else being equal), more potential interference (highly illegal, but there are many unintentional noise sources), doppler and multipath fading in mobile applications, etc.
(those latter being 8VSB-based, not frequency related.. in fact, multipath cancellation is less likely at UHF than higher frequencies).Of course, "use the internet" presupposes you're wired.
If you have access to wired internet, you probably also have cable or FiOS available, which limits weather issues, at least between you and the head-end.
Of course, head ends often use satellite downlinks, but they're on C-band satellites, which are more sensitive and lose much less at 3.7â"4.2 GHz downlink than the Ka-Ku band DBS satellites (Dish, DirecTV) at 12.2-12.7 GHz (Ku band) and 26.5-40 GHz (Ka band).
Conversely, if you're on satellite TV, there's a good chance you're on satellite for Internet, too.
Like me, tragically enough.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299539</id>
	<title>Let me be clear</title>
	<author>bonkeydcow</author>
	<datestamp>1244712180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's about damn time. I have thrown away old HDTVs already!</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's about damn time .
I have thrown away old HDTVs already !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's about damn time.
I have thrown away old HDTVs already!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300341</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Editor:</title>
	<author>hey!</author>
	<datestamp>1244715000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Welcome back to 1955 St. Louis!</p></div><p>Lucky bastards.  That means you'll be getting <em>The George Burns and Gracie Allen Show</em>.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome back to 1955 St. Louis ! Lucky bastards .
That means you 'll be getting The George Burns and Gracie Allen Show .
   </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome back to 1955 St. Louis!Lucky bastards.
That means you'll be getting The George Burns and Gracie Allen Show.
   
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28306581</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>Maximum Prophet</author>
	<datestamp>1244813700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And what happens when you have broadcasts coming in from multiple directions?</p></div><p>Get a smart antenna.    I have the DTA-5000, but I'm sure there will be others on the market soon.  Some of the converter boxes have smart antenna connections, and I'm sure HDTVs and HD capture boards will have them soon.
<br> <br>
My smart antenna has 4 stubby antennas, and does phase tricks to steer the signal.
<br> <br>
The smart antenna protocol is supposed to be able to steer an antenna rotator as well.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And what happens when you have broadcasts coming in from multiple directions ? Get a smart antenna .
I have the DTA-5000 , but I 'm sure there will be others on the market soon .
Some of the converter boxes have smart antenna connections , and I 'm sure HDTVs and HD capture boards will have them soon .
My smart antenna has 4 stubby antennas , and does phase tricks to steer the signal .
The smart antenna protocol is supposed to be able to steer an antenna rotator as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And what happens when you have broadcasts coming in from multiple directions?Get a smart antenna.
I have the DTA-5000, but I'm sure there will be others on the market soon.
Some of the converter boxes have smart antenna connections, and I'm sure HDTVs and HD capture boards will have them soon.
My smart antenna has 4 stubby antennas, and does phase tricks to steer the signal.
The smart antenna protocol is supposed to be able to steer an antenna rotator as well.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303871</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300037</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Editor:</title>
	<author>mr\_mischief</author>
	<datestamp>1244713980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, mcgrew.</p><p>Our channel 27 (WQEC, your WSEC on channel 8) keeps the best signal in town going. Unfortunately, Network Knowledge is in a fund-raising fury because this government-mandated switch comes along at the same time as huge cuts in government funding for PBS.</p><p>We actually got only four channels here before the DTV signals came up -- KHQA 7 (CBS), WGEM 10 (NBC), some Protestant religious channel (which makes EWTN look like Spielberg directs everything), and a single PBS. Now we also have ABC (on 7.2), CW (10.2), Fox (10.3), PBS World (27.2), and Create (27.3).</p><p>Our upstairs TV has a fine picture through most anything on just an amplified set-top antenna. The first story TV in the living room has momentary issues during storms or when large vehicles go by on the street.</p><p>My parents live 7 miles outside of an even smaller town over in Missouri, and they get Quincy IL, Hannibal MO, and sometimes Columbia MO and St. Louis stations on just unamplified rabbit ears. I keep trying to get them to install an outdoor antenna so they can get KMOV, KDNL, and KSDK off the air reliably.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , mcgrew.Our channel 27 ( WQEC , your WSEC on channel 8 ) keeps the best signal in town going .
Unfortunately , Network Knowledge is in a fund-raising fury because this government-mandated switch comes along at the same time as huge cuts in government funding for PBS.We actually got only four channels here before the DTV signals came up -- KHQA 7 ( CBS ) , WGEM 10 ( NBC ) , some Protestant religious channel ( which makes EWTN look like Spielberg directs everything ) , and a single PBS .
Now we also have ABC ( on 7.2 ) , CW ( 10.2 ) , Fox ( 10.3 ) , PBS World ( 27.2 ) , and Create ( 27.3 ) .Our upstairs TV has a fine picture through most anything on just an amplified set-top antenna .
The first story TV in the living room has momentary issues during storms or when large vehicles go by on the street.My parents live 7 miles outside of an even smaller town over in Missouri , and they get Quincy IL , Hannibal MO , and sometimes Columbia MO and St. Louis stations on just unamplified rabbit ears .
I keep trying to get them to install an outdoor antenna so they can get KMOV , KDNL , and KSDK off the air reliably .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, mcgrew.Our channel 27 (WQEC, your WSEC on channel 8) keeps the best signal in town going.
Unfortunately, Network Knowledge is in a fund-raising fury because this government-mandated switch comes along at the same time as huge cuts in government funding for PBS.We actually got only four channels here before the DTV signals came up -- KHQA 7 (CBS), WGEM 10 (NBC), some Protestant religious channel (which makes EWTN look like Spielberg directs everything), and a single PBS.
Now we also have ABC (on 7.2), CW (10.2), Fox (10.3), PBS World (27.2), and Create (27.3).Our upstairs TV has a fine picture through most anything on just an amplified set-top antenna.
The first story TV in the living room has momentary issues during storms or when large vehicles go by on the street.My parents live 7 miles outside of an even smaller town over in Missouri, and they get Quincy IL, Hannibal MO, and sometimes Columbia MO and St. Louis stations on just unamplified rabbit ears.
I keep trying to get them to install an outdoor antenna so they can get KMOV, KDNL, and KSDK off the air reliably.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300417</id>
	<title>Tubgi8l</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244715240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">FreeBSD used to about Who can rant something that you</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>FreeBSD used to about Who can rant something that you [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FreeBSD used to about Who can rant something that you [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303697</id>
	<title>Re:Analog TV had the best weather/emergency covera</title>
	<author>evilviper</author>
	<datestamp>1244735040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p># Neither NOAA nor commercial AM/FM stations can possibly give neighborhood granularity coverage fast enough.</p></div></blockquote><p>Not true at all.  AM News stations do a great job.  You may be in an unfortunately poor area for selection.</p><blockquote><div><p>by time a weather event is verified enough to get into the update cycle, it has probably passed you. NOAA transmitters are pathetically weak and placed in locations where their line of sight coverage is abysmal.</p></div></blockquote><p>All good reasons why you have 5 different NOAA stations in any given area...  Different rotations, different propagation, etc.</p><blockquote><div><p>but to date there are no portable battery operated televisions capable of receiving a DTV signal.</p></div></blockquote><p>I've been posting links to portable DTVs for idiots like yourself for a good 5 years now.  Get the fuck out of Walmart and look around, dammit.  A quick web search will find them.</p><blockquote><div><p>My point here being that after all of the money spent on DTV, it is within 5 years of being irrelevant thanks to youtube and similar video services and more efficient codecs.</p></div></blockquote><p>Video (and audio) codecs can't get notably more efficient.  MPEG-2 gets surprisingly close to the upper limit of imperceptible lossy compression.  No amount of math or hand-waving by non-experts can change the fundamental limit of entropy.  All newer codecs can do is make low quality videos not look so artifact-ridden...  At HDTV bitrates, they give you slightly more than nothing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext># Neither NOAA nor commercial AM/FM stations can possibly give neighborhood granularity coverage fast enough.Not true at all .
AM News stations do a great job .
You may be in an unfortunately poor area for selection.by time a weather event is verified enough to get into the update cycle , it has probably passed you .
NOAA transmitters are pathetically weak and placed in locations where their line of sight coverage is abysmal.All good reasons why you have 5 different NOAA stations in any given area... Different rotations , different propagation , etc.but to date there are no portable battery operated televisions capable of receiving a DTV signal.I 've been posting links to portable DTVs for idiots like yourself for a good 5 years now .
Get the fuck out of Walmart and look around , dammit .
A quick web search will find them.My point here being that after all of the money spent on DTV , it is within 5 years of being irrelevant thanks to youtube and similar video services and more efficient codecs.Video ( and audio ) codecs ca n't get notably more efficient .
MPEG-2 gets surprisingly close to the upper limit of imperceptible lossy compression .
No amount of math or hand-waving by non-experts can change the fundamental limit of entropy .
All newer codecs can do is make low quality videos not look so artifact-ridden... At HDTV bitrates , they give you slightly more than nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext># Neither NOAA nor commercial AM/FM stations can possibly give neighborhood granularity coverage fast enough.Not true at all.
AM News stations do a great job.
You may be in an unfortunately poor area for selection.by time a weather event is verified enough to get into the update cycle, it has probably passed you.
NOAA transmitters are pathetically weak and placed in locations where their line of sight coverage is abysmal.All good reasons why you have 5 different NOAA stations in any given area...  Different rotations, different propagation, etc.but to date there are no portable battery operated televisions capable of receiving a DTV signal.I've been posting links to portable DTVs for idiots like yourself for a good 5 years now.
Get the fuck out of Walmart and look around, dammit.
A quick web search will find them.My point here being that after all of the money spent on DTV, it is within 5 years of being irrelevant thanks to youtube and similar video services and more efficient codecs.Video (and audio) codecs can't get notably more efficient.
MPEG-2 gets surprisingly close to the upper limit of imperceptible lossy compression.
No amount of math or hand-waving by non-experts can change the fundamental limit of entropy.
All newer codecs can do is make low quality videos not look so artifact-ridden...  At HDTV bitrates, they give you slightly more than nothing.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302619</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303009</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244728860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You couldn't even come upstairs out of the basement to help your grandma?</p><p>You, sir, are the demanding love!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You could n't even come upstairs out of the basement to help your grandma ? You , sir , are the demanding love !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You couldn't even come upstairs out of the basement to help your grandma?You, sir, are the demanding love!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301393</id>
	<title>A Few Practical Thoughts</title>
	<author>resistant</author>
	<datestamp>1244718900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I did a lot of research on this last year. For what it's worth, I'll offer a few thoughts from what I remember.</p><p>First, get an antenna that can handle both UHF and VHF. Some stations will still broadcast on VHF. Ignore ridiculous marketing claims that an antenna is "digitally optimised" or "HDTV ready" or however that went. A signal is a signal. Having said that, from reports, some "UHF-only" indoor/outdoor antennas will actually do okay with VHF signals as well. I wish I'd known that last fact before buying a honking big outdoor VHF/UHF antenna. The "UHF-only" antennas take way less room. In any case, find out where the stations are located physically, and point the antenna at them. If they're dispersed, you may need a motor control to rotate the antenna, which is a pain, or multiple antennas, which is a big pain.</p><p>When I finally bothered to hook up the analog/digital conversion box for more than brief testing, and a freaking huge outdoor VHF/UHF antenna *inside* my apartment (it's mounted on a short brass rod stuck in a hole drilled into the end of a two-by-four stub mounted on a large homemade work table, so that it's up near the ceiling), I got channels 8 (CBS), 10-1 (NBC), 10-2 (NBC), 13-1 (ABC), 13-2 (ABC), 21-1 (PBS), 21-2 (PBS), 21-3 (PBS), and 31 (Fox). This is four more channels than for analog. However, channels 8 and 13-1/13-2 are basically unwatchable, with signal levels too low. The picture constantly jerks and pixellates. I hoping those stations jack up the freaking power soon. There are some okay shows on 13-2, in particular. If not, screw it. If they don't care enough, why should I? I watch a lot of DVDs, and there are more okay films on DVD than I can realistically watch in a lifetime, even with only watching each film *once*.</p><p>Second, don't get the absolute cheapest converter box. It'll likely have serious problems unless you get fairly lucky, such as sometimes severe audio lag, poor handling of marginal signals, a poor feature set, a tendency to fail early, etc. I ended up paying about $23 per box after taxes, for the ones I bought with the two $40 off coupons sent by the government. If you're interested, these were the Zenith DTT-901 model, May 2008 firmware. One feature I liked was "pass-through", but that obviously will make no difference very soon. I'm not up to speed on current models. Look on video fanatic forums. Odds are good you'll find a decent brand and model for little money. I can't remember if any $40 off coupons are still good, but if they are and you have them, use them for two copies of the same model, so you'll have one on hand while the other is in the shop, if needed. Worst comes to the worst, you can sell the extra copy or give it to a relation.</p><p>If you're having trouble with elderly relations, tell them that the little box is a bully and that it has taken over the channel switching. It may sound a bit condescending, but if it works, why not? It's a clearer visual image for them than the obscurity of technical details. Be sure the remotes for them have large buttons and are as simple as possible. Keep the "good" remotes in a drawer, for when you need them to set up stuff. I use myself a nice Sony programmable remote, and it works well, but even I have a bit of trouble sometimes with flipping from one mode to another, whilst managing for example overlapping sound level controls (mainly when playing DVDs that seem to flip a coin when it comes to loudness). Asking elderly relations to cope with this kind of remote fiddliness will be too much if they already have trouble with the DTV changeover with which to begin. It will cause active pain (to you), but discard *everything* except power and start/stop (for DVDs if applicable) and volume and channels for your kindly but dumb elders. If you're daring, explain the fast forward button. One hopes that doesn't overlook anything!</p><p>(Yeah, I know about TV Fool and such, but that's been covered in vast detail elsewhere, and I forgot most of it anyway, heh-heh!)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did a lot of research on this last year .
For what it 's worth , I 'll offer a few thoughts from what I remember.First , get an antenna that can handle both UHF and VHF .
Some stations will still broadcast on VHF .
Ignore ridiculous marketing claims that an antenna is " digitally optimised " or " HDTV ready " or however that went .
A signal is a signal .
Having said that , from reports , some " UHF-only " indoor/outdoor antennas will actually do okay with VHF signals as well .
I wish I 'd known that last fact before buying a honking big outdoor VHF/UHF antenna .
The " UHF-only " antennas take way less room .
In any case , find out where the stations are located physically , and point the antenna at them .
If they 're dispersed , you may need a motor control to rotate the antenna , which is a pain , or multiple antennas , which is a big pain.When I finally bothered to hook up the analog/digital conversion box for more than brief testing , and a freaking huge outdoor VHF/UHF antenna * inside * my apartment ( it 's mounted on a short brass rod stuck in a hole drilled into the end of a two-by-four stub mounted on a large homemade work table , so that it 's up near the ceiling ) , I got channels 8 ( CBS ) , 10-1 ( NBC ) , 10-2 ( NBC ) , 13-1 ( ABC ) , 13-2 ( ABC ) , 21-1 ( PBS ) , 21-2 ( PBS ) , 21-3 ( PBS ) , and 31 ( Fox ) .
This is four more channels than for analog .
However , channels 8 and 13-1/13-2 are basically unwatchable , with signal levels too low .
The picture constantly jerks and pixellates .
I hoping those stations jack up the freaking power soon .
There are some okay shows on 13-2 , in particular .
If not , screw it .
If they do n't care enough , why should I ?
I watch a lot of DVDs , and there are more okay films on DVD than I can realistically watch in a lifetime , even with only watching each film * once * .Second , do n't get the absolute cheapest converter box .
It 'll likely have serious problems unless you get fairly lucky , such as sometimes severe audio lag , poor handling of marginal signals , a poor feature set , a tendency to fail early , etc .
I ended up paying about $ 23 per box after taxes , for the ones I bought with the two $ 40 off coupons sent by the government .
If you 're interested , these were the Zenith DTT-901 model , May 2008 firmware .
One feature I liked was " pass-through " , but that obviously will make no difference very soon .
I 'm not up to speed on current models .
Look on video fanatic forums .
Odds are good you 'll find a decent brand and model for little money .
I ca n't remember if any $ 40 off coupons are still good , but if they are and you have them , use them for two copies of the same model , so you 'll have one on hand while the other is in the shop , if needed .
Worst comes to the worst , you can sell the extra copy or give it to a relation.If you 're having trouble with elderly relations , tell them that the little box is a bully and that it has taken over the channel switching .
It may sound a bit condescending , but if it works , why not ?
It 's a clearer visual image for them than the obscurity of technical details .
Be sure the remotes for them have large buttons and are as simple as possible .
Keep the " good " remotes in a drawer , for when you need them to set up stuff .
I use myself a nice Sony programmable remote , and it works well , but even I have a bit of trouble sometimes with flipping from one mode to another , whilst managing for example overlapping sound level controls ( mainly when playing DVDs that seem to flip a coin when it comes to loudness ) .
Asking elderly relations to cope with this kind of remote fiddliness will be too much if they already have trouble with the DTV changeover with which to begin .
It will cause active pain ( to you ) , but discard * everything * except power and start/stop ( for DVDs if applicable ) and volume and channels for your kindly but dumb elders .
If you 're daring , explain the fast forward button .
One hopes that does n't overlook anything !
( Yeah , I know about TV Fool and such , but that 's been covered in vast detail elsewhere , and I forgot most of it anyway , heh-heh !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did a lot of research on this last year.
For what it's worth, I'll offer a few thoughts from what I remember.First, get an antenna that can handle both UHF and VHF.
Some stations will still broadcast on VHF.
Ignore ridiculous marketing claims that an antenna is "digitally optimised" or "HDTV ready" or however that went.
A signal is a signal.
Having said that, from reports, some "UHF-only" indoor/outdoor antennas will actually do okay with VHF signals as well.
I wish I'd known that last fact before buying a honking big outdoor VHF/UHF antenna.
The "UHF-only" antennas take way less room.
In any case, find out where the stations are located physically, and point the antenna at them.
If they're dispersed, you may need a motor control to rotate the antenna, which is a pain, or multiple antennas, which is a big pain.When I finally bothered to hook up the analog/digital conversion box for more than brief testing, and a freaking huge outdoor VHF/UHF antenna *inside* my apartment (it's mounted on a short brass rod stuck in a hole drilled into the end of a two-by-four stub mounted on a large homemade work table, so that it's up near the ceiling), I got channels 8 (CBS), 10-1 (NBC), 10-2 (NBC), 13-1 (ABC), 13-2 (ABC), 21-1 (PBS), 21-2 (PBS), 21-3 (PBS), and 31 (Fox).
This is four more channels than for analog.
However, channels 8 and 13-1/13-2 are basically unwatchable, with signal levels too low.
The picture constantly jerks and pixellates.
I hoping those stations jack up the freaking power soon.
There are some okay shows on 13-2, in particular.
If not, screw it.
If they don't care enough, why should I?
I watch a lot of DVDs, and there are more okay films on DVD than I can realistically watch in a lifetime, even with only watching each film *once*.Second, don't get the absolute cheapest converter box.
It'll likely have serious problems unless you get fairly lucky, such as sometimes severe audio lag, poor handling of marginal signals, a poor feature set, a tendency to fail early, etc.
I ended up paying about $23 per box after taxes, for the ones I bought with the two $40 off coupons sent by the government.
If you're interested, these were the Zenith DTT-901 model, May 2008 firmware.
One feature I liked was "pass-through", but that obviously will make no difference very soon.
I'm not up to speed on current models.
Look on video fanatic forums.
Odds are good you'll find a decent brand and model for little money.
I can't remember if any $40 off coupons are still good, but if they are and you have them, use them for two copies of the same model, so you'll have one on hand while the other is in the shop, if needed.
Worst comes to the worst, you can sell the extra copy or give it to a relation.If you're having trouble with elderly relations, tell them that the little box is a bully and that it has taken over the channel switching.
It may sound a bit condescending, but if it works, why not?
It's a clearer visual image for them than the obscurity of technical details.
Be sure the remotes for them have large buttons and are as simple as possible.
Keep the "good" remotes in a drawer, for when you need them to set up stuff.
I use myself a nice Sony programmable remote, and it works well, but even I have a bit of trouble sometimes with flipping from one mode to another, whilst managing for example overlapping sound level controls (mainly when playing DVDs that seem to flip a coin when it comes to loudness).
Asking elderly relations to cope with this kind of remote fiddliness will be too much if they already have trouble with the DTV changeover with which to begin.
It will cause active pain (to you), but discard *everything* except power and start/stop (for DVDs if applicable) and volume and channels for your kindly but dumb elders.
If you're daring, explain the fast forward button.
One hopes that doesn't overlook anything!
(Yeah, I know about TV Fool and such, but that's been covered in vast detail elsewhere, and I forgot most of it anyway, heh-heh!
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301357</id>
	<title>Re:We're Doing this for You ... r Money</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244718780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>You can tell everybody in the US to switch to IPV6, but that isn't going to make everyone else in the world immediately comply.</p></div></blockquote><p>But if we did, they probably would.</p><p>&lt;/uncomfortable truth&gt;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can tell everybody in the US to switch to IPV6 , but that is n't going to make everyone else in the world immediately comply.But if we did , they probably would .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can tell everybody in the US to switch to IPV6, but that isn't going to make everyone else in the world immediately comply.But if we did, they probably would.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299785</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302619</id>
	<title>Analog TV had the best weather/emergency coverage</title>
	<author>An dochasac</author>
	<datestamp>1244725860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>During a weather emergency, the TV not the first place I go</p></div><p>
Unless you're driving, analog TV is (was) the best place to go for weather emergency info because:
</p><ul>
<li>Weather radar can quickly and visually indicate where the storm is, how fast its moving and in what direction.  Anyone with a vague idea of where they live can see whether the worst is behind or ahead.</li>
<li>Neither NOAA nor commercial AM/FM stations can possibly give neighborhood granularity coverage fast enough.</li>
<li>Bad weather makes for good ratings so during hurricanes, tropical storms, supercell storms, tornadoes, you're likely to get good coverage from several stations, radar in the corner of the screen, text crawling across the bottom giving locale updates much faster than a radio stations 20 minute/hourly update cycle.</li>
<li>Because TV is a big profitable industry, a typical transmitter is much more powerful and has better coverage than a typical NOAA 162.xx MHz transmitter.</li>
<li>TV coverage during any storm is almost always better than AM/FM coverage</li>
</ul><p><div class="quote"><p> for relevant information. Noaa.gov, weather.com, and/or a local AM "News and weather station" are my collective first choice.</p></div><p>
Static on analog AM (455-1600kHz) can tell you a thunderstorm is 50-100 miles away.  Beyond that I'd say analog AM and FM radio is all but useless.  The news cycles are too long, there are too many clear channel and autoDJ and syndicated stations.  (I've been there, camping at 4:00a.m., emergency sirens come on, I scan the radio dial for information and here 1940s music, Art Bell, Industrial music and static...)
<br> <br>
NOAA transmitters are typical of heavy government, by time a weather event is verified enough to get into the update cycle, it has probably passed you.  NOAA transmitters are pathetically weak and placed in locations where their line of sight coverage is abysmal.  Cross any great lake and you're likely to pick up TV stations the whole way across but you won't pick up any NOAA station more than 10 miles offshore.  (In my case not even this far because the nearest station was about 15 miles inland!)  Try this, get one of those TV/weather radios (before tomorrow morning!) scan through the T.V. channels and if you are within 25 miles of a big city, you'll probably get some TV stations and if you hear a NOAA station at all, it will be very weak.
<br> <br>
Now here is the rub, not only is digital TV an all or nothing affair which has a wider area of 'perfect picture', but a much smaller area of 'usable picture', but to date there are no portable battery operated televisions capable of receiving a DTV signal.  Yes you could run your DTV converter off an inverter, and someone has even created one which runs on half a dozen D batteries, but DTV decoding is computationally intensive which means it burns through batteries much faster than your Analog LCD TV.  Gaps in weather and other emergency coverage will eventually be seen as one of the unintended consequences of the government mandated forced obsolescence of analog TV.  A second unintended consequence is that <b>millions</b> of TVs will end up in landfills before their time because their owner is either out of DTV range, or he isn't technically savvy enough to hook up a converter.  The third unintended consequence is that themanufacturers of new televisions will have a very good year.  DTV was sold in the pre-internet days on the premise that it would provide jobs for EEs after the downsizing of NASA and the military.  It has provided jobs, but unfortunately very few of these jobs have been within the U.S.  And now we're stuck with "the worlds first DTV system" which was designed when MS Windows didn't even have a TCP stack and the 'web' consisted of a few dozen organizations, email and usenet.  My point here being that after all of the money spent on DTV, it is within 5 years of being irrelevant thanks to youtube and similar video services and more efficient codecs.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>During a weather emergency , the TV not the first place I go Unless you 're driving , analog TV is ( was ) the best place to go for weather emergency info because : Weather radar can quickly and visually indicate where the storm is , how fast its moving and in what direction .
Anyone with a vague idea of where they live can see whether the worst is behind or ahead .
Neither NOAA nor commercial AM/FM stations can possibly give neighborhood granularity coverage fast enough .
Bad weather makes for good ratings so during hurricanes , tropical storms , supercell storms , tornadoes , you 're likely to get good coverage from several stations , radar in the corner of the screen , text crawling across the bottom giving locale updates much faster than a radio stations 20 minute/hourly update cycle .
Because TV is a big profitable industry , a typical transmitter is much more powerful and has better coverage than a typical NOAA 162.xx MHz transmitter .
TV coverage during any storm is almost always better than AM/FM coverage for relevant information .
Noaa.gov , weather.com , and/or a local AM " News and weather station " are my collective first choice .
Static on analog AM ( 455-1600kHz ) can tell you a thunderstorm is 50-100 miles away .
Beyond that I 'd say analog AM and FM radio is all but useless .
The news cycles are too long , there are too many clear channel and autoDJ and syndicated stations .
( I 've been there , camping at 4 : 00a.m. , emergency sirens come on , I scan the radio dial for information and here 1940s music , Art Bell , Industrial music and static... ) NOAA transmitters are typical of heavy government , by time a weather event is verified enough to get into the update cycle , it has probably passed you .
NOAA transmitters are pathetically weak and placed in locations where their line of sight coverage is abysmal .
Cross any great lake and you 're likely to pick up TV stations the whole way across but you wo n't pick up any NOAA station more than 10 miles offshore .
( In my case not even this far because the nearest station was about 15 miles inland !
) Try this , get one of those TV/weather radios ( before tomorrow morning !
) scan through the T.V .
channels and if you are within 25 miles of a big city , you 'll probably get some TV stations and if you hear a NOAA station at all , it will be very weak .
Now here is the rub , not only is digital TV an all or nothing affair which has a wider area of 'perfect picture ' , but a much smaller area of 'usable picture ' , but to date there are no portable battery operated televisions capable of receiving a DTV signal .
Yes you could run your DTV converter off an inverter , and someone has even created one which runs on half a dozen D batteries , but DTV decoding is computationally intensive which means it burns through batteries much faster than your Analog LCD TV .
Gaps in weather and other emergency coverage will eventually be seen as one of the unintended consequences of the government mandated forced obsolescence of analog TV .
A second unintended consequence is that millions of TVs will end up in landfills before their time because their owner is either out of DTV range , or he is n't technically savvy enough to hook up a converter .
The third unintended consequence is that themanufacturers of new televisions will have a very good year .
DTV was sold in the pre-internet days on the premise that it would provide jobs for EEs after the downsizing of NASA and the military .
It has provided jobs , but unfortunately very few of these jobs have been within the U.S. And now we 're stuck with " the worlds first DTV system " which was designed when MS Windows did n't even have a TCP stack and the 'web ' consisted of a few dozen organizations , email and usenet .
My point here being that after all of the money spent on DTV , it is within 5 years of being irrelevant thanks to youtube and similar video services and more efficient codecs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>During a weather emergency, the TV not the first place I go
Unless you're driving, analog TV is (was) the best place to go for weather emergency info because:

Weather radar can quickly and visually indicate where the storm is, how fast its moving and in what direction.
Anyone with a vague idea of where they live can see whether the worst is behind or ahead.
Neither NOAA nor commercial AM/FM stations can possibly give neighborhood granularity coverage fast enough.
Bad weather makes for good ratings so during hurricanes, tropical storms, supercell storms, tornadoes, you're likely to get good coverage from several stations, radar in the corner of the screen, text crawling across the bottom giving locale updates much faster than a radio stations 20 minute/hourly update cycle.
Because TV is a big profitable industry, a typical transmitter is much more powerful and has better coverage than a typical NOAA 162.xx MHz transmitter.
TV coverage during any storm is almost always better than AM/FM coverage
 for relevant information.
Noaa.gov, weather.com, and/or a local AM "News and weather station" are my collective first choice.
Static on analog AM (455-1600kHz) can tell you a thunderstorm is 50-100 miles away.
Beyond that I'd say analog AM and FM radio is all but useless.
The news cycles are too long, there are too many clear channel and autoDJ and syndicated stations.
(I've been there, camping at 4:00a.m., emergency sirens come on, I scan the radio dial for information and here 1940s music, Art Bell, Industrial music and static...)
 
NOAA transmitters are typical of heavy government, by time a weather event is verified enough to get into the update cycle, it has probably passed you.
NOAA transmitters are pathetically weak and placed in locations where their line of sight coverage is abysmal.
Cross any great lake and you're likely to pick up TV stations the whole way across but you won't pick up any NOAA station more than 10 miles offshore.
(In my case not even this far because the nearest station was about 15 miles inland!
)  Try this, get one of those TV/weather radios (before tomorrow morning!
) scan through the T.V.
channels and if you are within 25 miles of a big city, you'll probably get some TV stations and if you hear a NOAA station at all, it will be very weak.
Now here is the rub, not only is digital TV an all or nothing affair which has a wider area of 'perfect picture', but a much smaller area of 'usable picture', but to date there are no portable battery operated televisions capable of receiving a DTV signal.
Yes you could run your DTV converter off an inverter, and someone has even created one which runs on half a dozen D batteries, but DTV decoding is computationally intensive which means it burns through batteries much faster than your Analog LCD TV.
Gaps in weather and other emergency coverage will eventually be seen as one of the unintended consequences of the government mandated forced obsolescence of analog TV.
A second unintended consequence is that millions of TVs will end up in landfills before their time because their owner is either out of DTV range, or he isn't technically savvy enough to hook up a converter.
The third unintended consequence is that themanufacturers of new televisions will have a very good year.
DTV was sold in the pre-internet days on the premise that it would provide jobs for EEs after the downsizing of NASA and the military.
It has provided jobs, but unfortunately very few of these jobs have been within the U.S.  And now we're stuck with "the worlds first DTV system" which was designed when MS Windows didn't even have a TCP stack and the 'web' consisted of a few dozen organizations, email and usenet.
My point here being that after all of the money spent on DTV, it is within 5 years of being irrelevant thanks to youtube and similar video services and more efficient codecs.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299579</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299435</id>
	<title>Niggerbuntu</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244711820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Welcome to Niggerbuntu</p><p>Niggerbuntu is a Linux-based operating system consisting of Free and Open Source software for laptops, desktops, and servers. Niggerbuntu has a clear focus on the user and usability - it should Just Work, even if the user has only the thinking capacities of a sponge. the OS ships with the latest Gnomrilla release as well as a selection of server and desktop software that makes for a comfortable desktop experience off of a single installation CD.</p><p>It also features the packaging manager ape-ghetto, and the challenging Linux manual pages have been reformatted into the new 'monkey' format, so for example the manual for the shutdown command can be accessed just by typing: 'monkey shut-up -h now mothafukka' instead of 'man shutdown'.</p><p>Absolutely Free of Charge</p><p>Niggerbuntu is free software, and available to you free of charge, as in free beer or free stuffs you can get from looting. It's also Free in the sense of giving you rights of Software Freedom. The freedom, to run, copy, steal, distribute, study, share, change and improve the software for any purpose, without paying licensing fees.</p><p>Free software as in free beer !</p><p>Niggerbuntu is an ancient Nigger word, meaning "humanity to monkeys". Niggerbuntu also means "I am what I am because of how apes behave". The Niggerbuntu Linux distribution brings the spirit of Niggerbuntu to the software world.</p><p>The dictator Bokassa described Niggerbuntu in the following way:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; "A subhuman with Niggerbuntu is open and available to others (like a white bitch you're ready to fsck), affirming of others, does not feel threatened by the fact that other species are more intelligent than we are, for it has a proper self-assurance that comes from knowing that it belongs to the great monkey specie."</p><p>We chose the name Niggerbuntu for this distribution because we think it captures perfectly the spirit of sharing and looting that is at the heart of the open source movement.</p><p>Niggerbuntu - Linux for Subhuman Beings.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to NiggerbuntuNiggerbuntu is a Linux-based operating system consisting of Free and Open Source software for laptops , desktops , and servers .
Niggerbuntu has a clear focus on the user and usability - it should Just Work , even if the user has only the thinking capacities of a sponge .
the OS ships with the latest Gnomrilla release as well as a selection of server and desktop software that makes for a comfortable desktop experience off of a single installation CD.It also features the packaging manager ape-ghetto , and the challenging Linux manual pages have been reformatted into the new 'monkey ' format , so for example the manual for the shutdown command can be accessed just by typing : 'monkey shut-up -h now mothafukka ' instead of 'man shutdown'.Absolutely Free of ChargeNiggerbuntu is free software , and available to you free of charge , as in free beer or free stuffs you can get from looting .
It 's also Free in the sense of giving you rights of Software Freedom .
The freedom , to run , copy , steal , distribute , study , share , change and improve the software for any purpose , without paying licensing fees.Free software as in free beer ! Niggerbuntu is an ancient Nigger word , meaning " humanity to monkeys " .
Niggerbuntu also means " I am what I am because of how apes behave " .
The Niggerbuntu Linux distribution brings the spirit of Niggerbuntu to the software world.The dictator Bokassa described Niggerbuntu in the following way :         " A subhuman with Niggerbuntu is open and available to others ( like a white bitch you 're ready to fsck ) , affirming of others , does not feel threatened by the fact that other species are more intelligent than we are , for it has a proper self-assurance that comes from knowing that it belongs to the great monkey specie .
" We chose the name Niggerbuntu for this distribution because we think it captures perfectly the spirit of sharing and looting that is at the heart of the open source movement.Niggerbuntu - Linux for Subhuman Beings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to NiggerbuntuNiggerbuntu is a Linux-based operating system consisting of Free and Open Source software for laptops, desktops, and servers.
Niggerbuntu has a clear focus on the user and usability - it should Just Work, even if the user has only the thinking capacities of a sponge.
the OS ships with the latest Gnomrilla release as well as a selection of server and desktop software that makes for a comfortable desktop experience off of a single installation CD.It also features the packaging manager ape-ghetto, and the challenging Linux manual pages have been reformatted into the new 'monkey' format, so for example the manual for the shutdown command can be accessed just by typing: 'monkey shut-up -h now mothafukka' instead of 'man shutdown'.Absolutely Free of ChargeNiggerbuntu is free software, and available to you free of charge, as in free beer or free stuffs you can get from looting.
It's also Free in the sense of giving you rights of Software Freedom.
The freedom, to run, copy, steal, distribute, study, share, change and improve the software for any purpose, without paying licensing fees.Free software as in free beer !Niggerbuntu is an ancient Nigger word, meaning "humanity to monkeys".
Niggerbuntu also means "I am what I am because of how apes behave".
The Niggerbuntu Linux distribution brings the spirit of Niggerbuntu to the software world.The dictator Bokassa described Niggerbuntu in the following way:
        "A subhuman with Niggerbuntu is open and available to others (like a white bitch you're ready to fsck), affirming of others, does not feel threatened by the fact that other species are more intelligent than we are, for it has a proper self-assurance that comes from knowing that it belongs to the great monkey specie.
"We chose the name Niggerbuntu for this distribution because we think it captures perfectly the spirit of sharing and looting that is at the heart of the open source movement.Niggerbuntu - Linux for Subhuman Beings.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300935</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244717160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My dad is about 60 miles from the closer towers, has his antenna pointed the wrong way (at the ones about 70 miles away), and get the digital channels from both cities just fine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My dad is about 60 miles from the closer towers , has his antenna pointed the wrong way ( at the ones about 70 miles away ) , and get the digital channels from both cities just fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My dad is about 60 miles from the closer towers, has his antenna pointed the wrong way (at the ones about 70 miles away), and get the digital channels from both cities just fine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300971</id>
	<title>Re:seriously...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244717280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I haven't gotten a DTV tuner yet and I don't think I'm stupid or lazy. There's so little worth watching on TV that I've decided to give up on it all together.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't gotten a DTV tuner yet and I do n't think I 'm stupid or lazy .
There 's so little worth watching on TV that I 've decided to give up on it all together .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't gotten a DTV tuner yet and I don't think I'm stupid or lazy.
There's so little worth watching on TV that I've decided to give up on it all together.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299631</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302281</id>
	<title>Re:Another switch the US needs to make..</title>
	<author>Delwin</author>
	<datestamp>1244723640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's been tried, and failed, about a generation ago.  I don't think anyone's going to bother again for another generation or two.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's been tried , and failed , about a generation ago .
I do n't think anyone 's going to bother again for another generation or two .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's been tried, and failed, about a generation ago.
I don't think anyone's going to bother again for another generation or two.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301037</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300993</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244717340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So what is she saying about the lower quality of picture?</p><p>Yes - lower quality.  Flashing as signal breaks up, Failure to find signal half the time.  Please give me back analog that ALWAYS WORKS!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So what is she saying about the lower quality of picture ? Yes - lower quality .
Flashing as signal breaks up , Failure to find signal half the time .
Please give me back analog that ALWAYS WORKS !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what is she saying about the lower quality of picture?Yes - lower quality.
Flashing as signal breaks up, Failure to find signal half the time.
Please give me back analog that ALWAYS WORKS!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300723</id>
	<title>Digital TV in Canada</title>
	<author>spaceyhackerlady</author>
	<datestamp>1244716320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here in Canada the deadline is 31 August 2011. There are a few digital transmitters on the
air in major cities. Here in Vancouver I get CBC, CTV and Global on digital, plus KVOS (independent)
and KBCB (home shopping - ugh!) from Bellingham, Washington. Set-top ATSC converters are not
available here, so I bought one at Radio Shack in Portland last fall and hooked it up to my trusty
multi-system TV.

</p><p>Even dumbed down to 480i NTSC, the picture quality is better than DVD. The CBC HD signal shows
what digital can do: being less heavily compressed it's <em>better</em> than what you
get on cable. None of the other local channels have gone digital yet.

</p><p>KVOS and KBCB pulled the NTSC plug in February. Their old analogue channels have been dead air ever since.

</p><p>The Canadian broadcasters are dragging their heels,
pleading poverty and the end of civilization as
we know it. Nothing new there.

</p><p>The cable companies have the general populace snowed in to believing that you
must have cable to get any TV at all. Nothing new there, either.

</p><p>...laura</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here in Canada the deadline is 31 August 2011 .
There are a few digital transmitters on the air in major cities .
Here in Vancouver I get CBC , CTV and Global on digital , plus KVOS ( independent ) and KBCB ( home shopping - ugh !
) from Bellingham , Washington .
Set-top ATSC converters are not available here , so I bought one at Radio Shack in Portland last fall and hooked it up to my trusty multi-system TV .
Even dumbed down to 480i NTSC , the picture quality is better than DVD .
The CBC HD signal shows what digital can do : being less heavily compressed it 's better than what you get on cable .
None of the other local channels have gone digital yet .
KVOS and KBCB pulled the NTSC plug in February .
Their old analogue channels have been dead air ever since .
The Canadian broadcasters are dragging their heels , pleading poverty and the end of civilization as we know it .
Nothing new there .
The cable companies have the general populace snowed in to believing that you must have cable to get any TV at all .
Nothing new there , either .
...laura</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here in Canada the deadline is 31 August 2011.
There are a few digital transmitters on the
air in major cities.
Here in Vancouver I get CBC, CTV and Global on digital, plus KVOS (independent)
and KBCB (home shopping - ugh!
) from Bellingham, Washington.
Set-top ATSC converters are not
available here, so I bought one at Radio Shack in Portland last fall and hooked it up to my trusty
multi-system TV.
Even dumbed down to 480i NTSC, the picture quality is better than DVD.
The CBC HD signal shows
what digital can do: being less heavily compressed it's better than what you
get on cable.
None of the other local channels have gone digital yet.
KVOS and KBCB pulled the NTSC plug in February.
Their old analogue channels have been dead air ever since.
The Canadian broadcasters are dragging their heels,
pleading poverty and the end of civilization as
we know it.
Nothing new there.
The cable companies have the general populace snowed in to believing that you
must have cable to get any TV at all.
Nothing new there, either.
...laura</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299611</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244712420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Exactly. Then there are some people who don't understand TVs and have never ending problems. For example, theres this elderly woman that constantly asks me for assistance with her DTV box, first are the terrible signals. Like you said, a bit of static is easy to deal with, but the constant glitching of many channels have made some channels completely unwatchable. Not to mention on some TVs particularly ones that are old enough not to have remotes, the elderly don't understand that even though they must use the dials to adjust volume and turn it on, they cannot use it to switch TV stations, it doesn't work.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
Then there are some people who do n't understand TVs and have never ending problems .
For example , theres this elderly woman that constantly asks me for assistance with her DTV box , first are the terrible signals .
Like you said , a bit of static is easy to deal with , but the constant glitching of many channels have made some channels completely unwatchable .
Not to mention on some TVs particularly ones that are old enough not to have remotes , the elderly do n't understand that even though they must use the dials to adjust volume and turn it on , they can not use it to switch TV stations , it does n't work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
Then there are some people who don't understand TVs and have never ending problems.
For example, theres this elderly woman that constantly asks me for assistance with her DTV box, first are the terrible signals.
Like you said, a bit of static is easy to deal with, but the constant glitching of many channels have made some channels completely unwatchable.
Not to mention on some TVs particularly ones that are old enough not to have remotes, the elderly don't understand that even though they must use the dials to adjust volume and turn it on, they cannot use it to switch TV stations, it doesn't work.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299901</id>
	<title>Yep less</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244713500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The other thing is at least you can watch fuzzy analog TV.  With Digital either you have it or you don't.  Kind of like Direct TV or Dish in the rain.  Woot less channels I can watch!!! Plus now that I am out in the country... no high speed internet.  Glad we killed that "pork" project &lt;cries&gt;</htmltext>
<tokenext>The other thing is at least you can watch fuzzy analog TV .
With Digital either you have it or you do n't .
Kind of like Direct TV or Dish in the rain .
Woot less channels I can watch ! ! !
Plus now that I am out in the country... no high speed internet .
Glad we killed that " pork " project</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The other thing is at least you can watch fuzzy analog TV.
With Digital either you have it or you don't.
Kind of like Direct TV or Dish in the rain.
Woot less channels I can watch!!!
Plus now that I am out in the country... no high speed internet.
Glad we killed that "pork" project </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299977</id>
	<title>Finally!</title>
	<author>brian0918</author>
	<datestamp>1244713800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>No more TV! So much free time! Thank you, government!</htmltext>
<tokenext>No more TV !
So much free time !
Thank you , government !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No more TV!
So much free time!
Thank you, government!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302447</id>
	<title>Re:We're Doing this for You ... r Money</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244724660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Simple, move<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.mil/.gov to IPv6 only, you want to email your representative? Check something online? Email anyone in the military? Get IPv6. Walmart effect (they pushed bar codes by saying after date X we won't buy stuff unless it has a UPC code on it).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Simple , move .mil/.gov to IPv6 only , you want to email your representative ?
Check something online ?
Email anyone in the military ?
Get IPv6 .
Walmart effect ( they pushed bar codes by saying after date X we wo n't buy stuff unless it has a UPC code on it ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Simple, move .mil/.gov to IPv6 only, you want to email your representative?
Check something online?
Email anyone in the military?
Get IPv6.
Walmart effect (they pushed bar codes by saying after date X we won't buy stuff unless it has a UPC code on it).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299785</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299495</id>
	<title>Digital change over</title>
	<author>sakdoctor</author>
	<datestamp>1244712060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've changed over to digital torrent distribution, freeing up the airwaves completely.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've changed over to digital torrent distribution , freeing up the airwaves completely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've changed over to digital torrent distribution, freeing up the airwaves completely.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28305953</id>
	<title>Re:Analog nightlight?</title>
	<author>Mad-Bassist</author>
	<datestamp>1244807340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps this means someday our modern TV sets will be able to listen to more cell phone signals just like old TVs can now from defunct channels 80-83. Then again, modern sets don't have a manual fine tune knob, and I can't understand the multiplexed speech fragments anyway.</p><p>I imagine the nightlight service must be exciting. "The hurricane has died down, and now, back to our classic cavalcade of Native American test patterns!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps this means someday our modern TV sets will be able to listen to more cell phone signals just like old TVs can now from defunct channels 80-83 .
Then again , modern sets do n't have a manual fine tune knob , and I ca n't understand the multiplexed speech fragments anyway.I imagine the nightlight service must be exciting .
" The hurricane has died down , and now , back to our classic cavalcade of Native American test patterns !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps this means someday our modern TV sets will be able to listen to more cell phone signals just like old TVs can now from defunct channels 80-83.
Then again, modern sets don't have a manual fine tune knob, and I can't understand the multiplexed speech fragments anyway.I imagine the nightlight service must be exciting.
"The hurricane has died down, and now, back to our classic cavalcade of Native American test patterns!
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299419</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663</id>
	<title>Dear Editor:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244712660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://illinoistimes.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid\%3A10041" title="illinoistimes.com"> <b>Digital backslide</b> </a> [illinoistimes.com]</p><p>A friend who uses an indoor antenna bought a digital TV, and now only has four stations, two in analog, one of which is a Catholic religion station, and two in digital.</p><p>I fear this will happen to cable subscribers too after the loss of Channel 8 [see "Channel 8 goes blank for some WSEC viewers," by Amanda Robert, IT, April 23]. I can see channels going digital one by one until there are no analog signals left.</p><p>I was using an indoor antenna (before the digital switch). If I remember correctly, I had channels 12, 17, 19, 20, 28, 48 and 55. Now it seems that in the digital age, digital TV users have only two stations.</p><p>Welcome back to 1955 St. Louis!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Digital backslide [ illinoistimes.com ] A friend who uses an indoor antenna bought a digital TV , and now only has four stations , two in analog , one of which is a Catholic religion station , and two in digital.I fear this will happen to cable subscribers too after the loss of Channel 8 [ see " Channel 8 goes blank for some WSEC viewers , " by Amanda Robert , IT , April 23 ] .
I can see channels going digital one by one until there are no analog signals left.I was using an indoor antenna ( before the digital switch ) .
If I remember correctly , I had channels 12 , 17 , 19 , 20 , 28 , 48 and 55 .
Now it seems that in the digital age , digital TV users have only two stations.Welcome back to 1955 St. Louis !</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Digital backslide  [illinoistimes.com]A friend who uses an indoor antenna bought a digital TV, and now only has four stations, two in analog, one of which is a Catholic religion station, and two in digital.I fear this will happen to cable subscribers too after the loss of Channel 8 [see "Channel 8 goes blank for some WSEC viewers," by Amanda Robert, IT, April 23].
I can see channels going digital one by one until there are no analog signals left.I was using an indoor antenna (before the digital switch).
If I remember correctly, I had channels 12, 17, 19, 20, 28, 48 and 55.
Now it seems that in the digital age, digital TV users have only two stations.Welcome back to 1955 St. Louis!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300967</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Editor:</title>
	<author>ACMENEWSLLC</author>
	<datestamp>1244717280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The funny thing is that all these commercials say as long as I have cable, I am ok.   But is that really true if the rural cable operator is taking the analog OTA feed and sending it through the cable?</p><p>Our local OTA analog stations are broadcasting a scroll stating that since I can see the scroll, I am not on digital and will be cut off during the transition.  My HDTV on these channels in digital do not have the scroll.  My cable does.</p><p>I wonder how many cable operators are going to be displaying an empty analog channel come the cutoff?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The funny thing is that all these commercials say as long as I have cable , I am ok. But is that really true if the rural cable operator is taking the analog OTA feed and sending it through the cable ? Our local OTA analog stations are broadcasting a scroll stating that since I can see the scroll , I am not on digital and will be cut off during the transition .
My HDTV on these channels in digital do not have the scroll .
My cable does.I wonder how many cable operators are going to be displaying an empty analog channel come the cutoff ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The funny thing is that all these commercials say as long as I have cable, I am ok.   But is that really true if the rural cable operator is taking the analog OTA feed and sending it through the cable?Our local OTA analog stations are broadcasting a scroll stating that since I can see the scroll, I am not on digital and will be cut off during the transition.
My HDTV on these channels in digital do not have the scroll.
My cable does.I wonder how many cable operators are going to be displaying an empty analog channel come the cutoff?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301239</id>
	<title>Re:We're Doing this for You ... r Money</title>
	<author>Experiment 626</author>
	<datestamp>1244718300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Well, I hope my government is this vocal and helpful in getting everyone coordinated to switch to IPv6 and HTML5.</p></div><p>Do you really want the government to have the authority to tell people what network protocols they can and can't use?  You might think they would use such power to spur adoption of IPv6 and HTML5, but I suspect they would be more inclined to ban BitTorrent, TOR, and FreeNet than IPv4 and HTML4.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I hope my government is this vocal and helpful in getting everyone coordinated to switch to IPv6 and HTML5.Do you really want the government to have the authority to tell people what network protocols they can and ca n't use ?
You might think they would use such power to spur adoption of IPv6 and HTML5 , but I suspect they would be more inclined to ban BitTorrent , TOR , and FreeNet than IPv4 and HTML4 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I hope my government is this vocal and helpful in getting everyone coordinated to switch to IPv6 and HTML5.Do you really want the government to have the authority to tell people what network protocols they can and can't use?
You might think they would use such power to spur adoption of IPv6 and HTML5, but I suspect they would be more inclined to ban BitTorrent, TOR, and FreeNet than IPv4 and HTML4.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304475</id>
	<title>Re:The delay was unnecessary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244742720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, and in both cases the switchover is totally unnecessary, particularly given how attractive the modern alternatives are.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , and in both cases the switchover is totally unnecessary , particularly given how attractive the modern alternatives are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, and in both cases the switchover is totally unnecessary, particularly given how attractive the modern alternatives are.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299919</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28308569</id>
	<title>Re:Bad use of tax dollars in support of commerce</title>
	<author>DLWormwood</author>
	<datestamp>1244822940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The rationale for giving the the boxes wasn't to support an advertiser's market base, but to insure the government had guaranteed viewer capacity when mandating nationwide broadcasts like emergency messages or State of the Union addresses and so on.  It's not just the advertisers who have a vested interest in having everyone watch TV...</htmltext>
<tokenext>The rationale for giving the the boxes was n't to support an advertiser 's market base , but to insure the government had guaranteed viewer capacity when mandating nationwide broadcasts like emergency messages or State of the Union addresses and so on .
It 's not just the advertisers who have a vested interest in having everyone watch TV.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The rationale for giving the the boxes wasn't to support an advertiser's market base, but to insure the government had guaranteed viewer capacity when mandating nationwide broadcasts like emergency messages or State of the Union addresses and so on.
It's not just the advertisers who have a vested interest in having everyone watch TV...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301259</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299643</id>
	<title>greedy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244712600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I gotta say I think its bullshit people with older tvs have to either buy a new tv or a conversion box.  The Gov. should be giving out the conversion boxes for free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got ta say I think its bullshit people with older tvs have to either buy a new tv or a conversion box .
The Gov .
should be giving out the conversion boxes for free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I gotta say I think its bullshit people with older tvs have to either buy a new tv or a conversion box.
The Gov.
should be giving out the conversion boxes for free.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299433</id>
	<title>We're Doing this for You ... r Money</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1244711820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"We have worked hand in hand with state and local officials, broadcasters and community groups to educate and assist millions of Americans with the transition...I want to be clear: there will not be another delay."</p></div><p>Well, I hope my government is this vocal and helpful in getting everyone coordinated to switch to IPv6 and HTML5.  Oh, ha, that's right.  If we switch to those, the government doesn't get to auction off IPv4 or HTML4 for twenty billion dollars.  So I guess you only get grade A support from the FCC and Department of Commerce only when they profit from it.  That's really a shame, I think if the United States informed consumers on more standards and compliance it would benefit the average citizen.  Hell, sometimes I wish the Senators &amp; Congressmen themselves sought such information.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" We have worked hand in hand with state and local officials , broadcasters and community groups to educate and assist millions of Americans with the transition...I want to be clear : there will not be another delay .
" Well , I hope my government is this vocal and helpful in getting everyone coordinated to switch to IPv6 and HTML5 .
Oh , ha , that 's right .
If we switch to those , the government does n't get to auction off IPv4 or HTML4 for twenty billion dollars .
So I guess you only get grade A support from the FCC and Department of Commerce only when they profit from it .
That 's really a shame , I think if the United States informed consumers on more standards and compliance it would benefit the average citizen .
Hell , sometimes I wish the Senators &amp; Congressmen themselves sought such information .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"We have worked hand in hand with state and local officials, broadcasters and community groups to educate and assist millions of Americans with the transition...I want to be clear: there will not be another delay.
"Well, I hope my government is this vocal and helpful in getting everyone coordinated to switch to IPv6 and HTML5.
Oh, ha, that's right.
If we switch to those, the government doesn't get to auction off IPv4 or HTML4 for twenty billion dollars.
So I guess you only get grade A support from the FCC and Department of Commerce only when they profit from it.
That's really a shame, I think if the United States informed consumers on more standards and compliance it would benefit the average citizen.
Hell, sometimes I wish the Senators &amp; Congressmen themselves sought such information.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300119</id>
	<title>That's why switch is important</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1244714280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>A friend who uses an indoor antenna bought a digital TV, and now only has four stations, two in analog, one of which is a Catholic religion station, and two in digital.</i></p><p>Which is exactly why the switch is so important, because a lot of stations broadcast at much lower power than they will be able to after the switch.</p><p>He'll get more channels after the 12th if they don't wimp out again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A friend who uses an indoor antenna bought a digital TV , and now only has four stations , two in analog , one of which is a Catholic religion station , and two in digital.Which is exactly why the switch is so important , because a lot of stations broadcast at much lower power than they will be able to after the switch.He 'll get more channels after the 12th if they do n't wimp out again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A friend who uses an indoor antenna bought a digital TV, and now only has four stations, two in analog, one of which is a Catholic religion station, and two in digital.Which is exactly why the switch is so important, because a lot of stations broadcast at much lower power than they will be able to after the switch.He'll get more channels after the 12th if they don't wimp out again.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300277</id>
	<title>Re:The delay was unnecessary</title>
	<author>amasiancrasian</author>
	<datestamp>1244714820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Many will just sit there watching the static... It's not like they're not doing that now anyway!<br>
They'll assume it's the Rapture and consult the Bible instead of TV Guide.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Many will just sit there watching the static... It 's not like they 're not doing that now anyway !
They 'll assume it 's the Rapture and consult the Bible instead of TV Guide .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many will just sit there watching the static... It's not like they're not doing that now anyway!
They'll assume it's the Rapture and consult the Bible instead of TV Guide.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299919</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302503</id>
	<title>Re:seriously...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244725140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"If someone hasn't figured out they need to pick up a DTV tuner,"</p><p>Not everyone has time to "figure out" shit.  For example, you obviously have not "figured out" how to be a sane, rational, considerate, and thoughtful gentleman.  For example, not everyone watching TV after the transition watched TV before the transition.</p><p>And, unbrilliant one, you don't need to pick up a DTV tuner to be ready for the transition, i.e. many cable users.</p><p>"so even stupidity and laziness wont cut it for an excuse."</p><p>There are people are students, have multiple jobs, or just plain work their asses off who may be unaware, because they haven't been watching much TV for the past 8 months.  I didn't watch TV for years aside from class breaks when I was in college and med school.  (I got calls from Nielson to be part of their survey stuff multiple times, and got followup calls; they didn't believe me the first couple times when I said I didn't watch TV and didn't own one at the time.  I also didn't have time for radio either.)  These people are not stupid or lazy.  There are other people who may be transitioning to a new location and forgotten a TV that they didn't upgrade.</p><p>This has nothing to do with ample warning.  It has to do with coverage of people who may have made a mistaken, overlooked, or not realized something about their equipment, setup, or area.  The February to June delay was not because of the people you seem to want to blame, but idiot government types who were butt ass slow in getting the coupons out.  Walmart carried pallets of converters TWO Christmas/Holiday seasons ago, when the gov was supposed to get coupons out, and they fell flat on their face because no one had coupons.  When the first bulk round I heard of that rebates were sent out in great number, there were suddenly no converter boxes really to be found, truly a near shortage.  The idiots who decided quotas to fill per rebate/coupon cycle are more to blame.  Late last year and this year is the first time coupons and converter box supplies were in sync.  (Yeah, governemnt!)</p><p>Now, if they had done cleared up the coupon mess earlier, I'd be in more agreement with you.  They hadn't.  Also, I definitely understand and like who it seems they are keeping the analog channels around for a little bit, to run a reoccuring message analog is down, got DTV.  Frankly, this should have been done years ago, and we'd probably have that spectrum totally freed up by now, but the phrackin rebates were just piss ass slow, messed up, and limited.</p><p>They should run the info analog, NOTHING else except emergency news, until October 15 or so at most, when people may return to a different residence from vacation or school, and that leaves them time and warning that some equipment of theres is old and needs to be upgraded.  Then go dark and be done with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" If someone has n't figured out they need to pick up a DTV tuner , " Not everyone has time to " figure out " shit .
For example , you obviously have not " figured out " how to be a sane , rational , considerate , and thoughtful gentleman .
For example , not everyone watching TV after the transition watched TV before the transition.And , unbrilliant one , you do n't need to pick up a DTV tuner to be ready for the transition , i.e .
many cable users .
" so even stupidity and laziness wont cut it for an excuse .
" There are people are students , have multiple jobs , or just plain work their asses off who may be unaware , because they have n't been watching much TV for the past 8 months .
I did n't watch TV for years aside from class breaks when I was in college and med school .
( I got calls from Nielson to be part of their survey stuff multiple times , and got followup calls ; they did n't believe me the first couple times when I said I did n't watch TV and did n't own one at the time .
I also did n't have time for radio either .
) These people are not stupid or lazy .
There are other people who may be transitioning to a new location and forgotten a TV that they did n't upgrade.This has nothing to do with ample warning .
It has to do with coverage of people who may have made a mistaken , overlooked , or not realized something about their equipment , setup , or area .
The February to June delay was not because of the people you seem to want to blame , but idiot government types who were butt ass slow in getting the coupons out .
Walmart carried pallets of converters TWO Christmas/Holiday seasons ago , when the gov was supposed to get coupons out , and they fell flat on their face because no one had coupons .
When the first bulk round I heard of that rebates were sent out in great number , there were suddenly no converter boxes really to be found , truly a near shortage .
The idiots who decided quotas to fill per rebate/coupon cycle are more to blame .
Late last year and this year is the first time coupons and converter box supplies were in sync .
( Yeah , governemnt !
) Now , if they had done cleared up the coupon mess earlier , I 'd be in more agreement with you .
They had n't .
Also , I definitely understand and like who it seems they are keeping the analog channels around for a little bit , to run a reoccuring message analog is down , got DTV .
Frankly , this should have been done years ago , and we 'd probably have that spectrum totally freed up by now , but the phrackin rebates were just piss ass slow , messed up , and limited.They should run the info analog , NOTHING else except emergency news , until October 15 or so at most , when people may return to a different residence from vacation or school , and that leaves them time and warning that some equipment of theres is old and needs to be upgraded .
Then go dark and be done with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"If someone hasn't figured out they need to pick up a DTV tuner,"Not everyone has time to "figure out" shit.
For example, you obviously have not "figured out" how to be a sane, rational, considerate, and thoughtful gentleman.
For example, not everyone watching TV after the transition watched TV before the transition.And, unbrilliant one, you don't need to pick up a DTV tuner to be ready for the transition, i.e.
many cable users.
"so even stupidity and laziness wont cut it for an excuse.
"There are people are students, have multiple jobs, or just plain work their asses off who may be unaware, because they haven't been watching much TV for the past 8 months.
I didn't watch TV for years aside from class breaks when I was in college and med school.
(I got calls from Nielson to be part of their survey stuff multiple times, and got followup calls; they didn't believe me the first couple times when I said I didn't watch TV and didn't own one at the time.
I also didn't have time for radio either.
)  These people are not stupid or lazy.
There are other people who may be transitioning to a new location and forgotten a TV that they didn't upgrade.This has nothing to do with ample warning.
It has to do with coverage of people who may have made a mistaken, overlooked, or not realized something about their equipment, setup, or area.
The February to June delay was not because of the people you seem to want to blame, but idiot government types who were butt ass slow in getting the coupons out.
Walmart carried pallets of converters TWO Christmas/Holiday seasons ago, when the gov was supposed to get coupons out, and they fell flat on their face because no one had coupons.
When the first bulk round I heard of that rebates were sent out in great number, there were suddenly no converter boxes really to be found, truly a near shortage.
The idiots who decided quotas to fill per rebate/coupon cycle are more to blame.
Late last year and this year is the first time coupons and converter box supplies were in sync.
(Yeah, governemnt!
)Now, if they had done cleared up the coupon mess earlier, I'd be in more agreement with you.
They hadn't.
Also, I definitely understand and like who it seems they are keeping the analog channels around for a little bit, to run a reoccuring message analog is down, got DTV.
Frankly, this should have been done years ago, and we'd probably have that spectrum totally freed up by now, but the phrackin rebates were just piss ass slow, messed up, and limited.They should run the info analog, NOTHING else except emergency news, until October 15 or so at most, when people may return to a different residence from vacation or school, and that leaves them time and warning that some equipment of theres is old and needs to be upgraded.
Then go dark and be done with it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299631</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300769</id>
	<title>Surefire motivation</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1244716500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Want to motivate everyone to pick up their converter box? They should have mandated this back when they delayed the switch the first time:</p><p>Most of the broadcasters have half hour "How To Switch" public service programs. The FCC should have mandated that, in March, they pre-empt 25\% of their analog programming with one of these programs. In April, 50\%, in May, 75\%, and by June, analog channels were to carry nothing but the DTV PSAs, or emergency broadcasts when necessary, 24 hours a day. Even worse, let the soap opera run for 5 minutes and then break in with "an important announcement concerning your television service". I'll bet that most people will run out and pick up a converter within days of the 50\% threshold.</p><p>I never did figure out why they simulcast the 'How to switch' PSAs on their digital channels. All they'd need is a reminder to rescan your converter after June 12th. And put that up full time on the UHF channels on June 12th for a week or so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Want to motivate everyone to pick up their converter box ?
They should have mandated this back when they delayed the switch the first time : Most of the broadcasters have half hour " How To Switch " public service programs .
The FCC should have mandated that , in March , they pre-empt 25 \ % of their analog programming with one of these programs .
In April , 50 \ % , in May , 75 \ % , and by June , analog channels were to carry nothing but the DTV PSAs , or emergency broadcasts when necessary , 24 hours a day .
Even worse , let the soap opera run for 5 minutes and then break in with " an important announcement concerning your television service " .
I 'll bet that most people will run out and pick up a converter within days of the 50 \ % threshold.I never did figure out why they simulcast the 'How to switch ' PSAs on their digital channels .
All they 'd need is a reminder to rescan your converter after June 12th .
And put that up full time on the UHF channels on June 12th for a week or so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Want to motivate everyone to pick up their converter box?
They should have mandated this back when they delayed the switch the first time:Most of the broadcasters have half hour "How To Switch" public service programs.
The FCC should have mandated that, in March, they pre-empt 25\% of their analog programming with one of these programs.
In April, 50\%, in May, 75\%, and by June, analog channels were to carry nothing but the DTV PSAs, or emergency broadcasts when necessary, 24 hours a day.
Even worse, let the soap opera run for 5 minutes and then break in with "an important announcement concerning your television service".
I'll bet that most people will run out and pick up a converter within days of the 50\% threshold.I never did figure out why they simulcast the 'How to switch' PSAs on their digital channels.
All they'd need is a reminder to rescan your converter after June 12th.
And put that up full time on the UHF channels on June 12th for a week or so.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301785</id>
	<title>Re:seriously...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244720760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If someone hasn't figured out they need to pick up a DTV tuner, and gone out and obtained one by now, but they can sit there and watch the static.  There has been AMPLE warning that this was coming, so even stupidity and laziness wont cut it for an excuse.</p></div><p>
I work for a company the supplies a large proportion of the world with digital content distribution equipment (as a s/w engineer, it's a rather cool job - quite a lot of what people watch/hear has been touched (not necessarily in a good way<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) ) by my code).
</p><p>Your observation is easy to say from the viewpoint of someone technologically aware - but you have to recognise there are plenty of people that just "don't get it" because even a basic level of technology is more than they want to get to grips with.  These people don't understand how cordless phones work, and have little interest in internet connectivity.  The whole digital television thing is a blur.  But, they are happy like that; the digital switch over is just an annoyance they don't understand.
</p><p>
I don't think that makes them lazy or stupid - its just a different set of life values that people in our demographic don't understand.
</p><p>
Maybe one day our kid's kid's will be complaining about how we haven't had our brains flash frozen for inclusion in the AI singularity grid.  Don't we know organic matter will be obsolete in a couple of years?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)
</p><p>
Thankfully until then the progress that I do understand pays the mortgage - and I hope the numerous beers don't dull my excitement over new technology - though as I get older, I feel that certain inevitability that it will.  Maybe one day we'll be left watching the static too...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If someone has n't figured out they need to pick up a DTV tuner , and gone out and obtained one by now , but they can sit there and watch the static .
There has been AMPLE warning that this was coming , so even stupidity and laziness wont cut it for an excuse .
I work for a company the supplies a large proportion of the world with digital content distribution equipment ( as a s/w engineer , it 's a rather cool job - quite a lot of what people watch/hear has been touched ( not necessarily in a good way ; ) ) by my code ) .
Your observation is easy to say from the viewpoint of someone technologically aware - but you have to recognise there are plenty of people that just " do n't get it " because even a basic level of technology is more than they want to get to grips with .
These people do n't understand how cordless phones work , and have little interest in internet connectivity .
The whole digital television thing is a blur .
But , they are happy like that ; the digital switch over is just an annoyance they do n't understand .
I do n't think that makes them lazy or stupid - its just a different set of life values that people in our demographic do n't understand .
Maybe one day our kid 's kid 's will be complaining about how we have n't had our brains flash frozen for inclusion in the AI singularity grid .
Do n't we know organic matter will be obsolete in a couple of years ?
: ) Thankfully until then the progress that I do understand pays the mortgage - and I hope the numerous beers do n't dull my excitement over new technology - though as I get older , I feel that certain inevitability that it will .
Maybe one day we 'll be left watching the static too.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If someone hasn't figured out they need to pick up a DTV tuner, and gone out and obtained one by now, but they can sit there and watch the static.
There has been AMPLE warning that this was coming, so even stupidity and laziness wont cut it for an excuse.
I work for a company the supplies a large proportion of the world with digital content distribution equipment (as a s/w engineer, it's a rather cool job - quite a lot of what people watch/hear has been touched (not necessarily in a good way ;) ) by my code).
Your observation is easy to say from the viewpoint of someone technologically aware - but you have to recognise there are plenty of people that just "don't get it" because even a basic level of technology is more than they want to get to grips with.
These people don't understand how cordless phones work, and have little interest in internet connectivity.
The whole digital television thing is a blur.
But, they are happy like that; the digital switch over is just an annoyance they don't understand.
I don't think that makes them lazy or stupid - its just a different set of life values that people in our demographic don't understand.
Maybe one day our kid's kid's will be complaining about how we haven't had our brains flash frozen for inclusion in the AI singularity grid.
Don't we know organic matter will be obsolete in a couple of years?
:)

Thankfully until then the progress that I do understand pays the mortgage - and I hope the numerous beers don't dull my excitement over new technology - though as I get older, I feel that certain inevitability that it will.
Maybe one day we'll be left watching the static too...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299631</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304231</id>
	<title>Re:Analog TV had the best weather/emergency covera</title>
	<author>RandomJoe</author>
	<datestamp>1244739540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>NOAA transmitters are typical of heavy government, by time a weather event is verified enough to get into the update cycle, it has probably passed you. NOAA transmitters are pathetically weak and placed in locations where their line of sight coverage is abysmal. Cross any great lake and you're likely to pick up TV stations the whole way across but you won't pick up any NOAA station more than 10 miles offshore. (In my case not even this far because the nearest station was about 15 miles inland!) Try this, get one of those TV/weather radios (before tomorrow morning!) scan through the T.V. channels and if you are within 25 miles of a big city, you'll probably get some TV stations and if you hear a NOAA station at all, it will be very weak.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Damn.  Obviously, different areas of the country are very different!  Here in Oklahoma, the NOAA transmitters are in VERY good locations.  From my house, I can pick up two or three indoors, on one of my ham radio antennas I can pick up seven or eight from across the state and even into Texas.  Just the other day I was in my car listening to the one that is located in the OKC metro area while I was over 100 miles away.
<br> <br>
And the updates seem to happen very quickly here.  Indeed, I'll hear the NWS discussing something with the spotters over the radio, then within just a few minutes the weather radio goes off with the new updates.  If I had any complaints, I wish they would make more fine-grain use of the SAME codes, our storms aren't usually large enough to affect an entire county at once, but even if their alert specifically says "northeast corner of Oklahoma county" I (on the far west side) still get the alert because they only break things down to county level with the codes.
<br> <br>
I do agree about using TV during weather events.  The one thing I really liked about the switch to DTV was two of the local stations (NBC and ABC) set up a secondary channel that was nothing but weather.  They've ruined it a bit already, with advertising and insets and such, but for a while one of them just had a live feed of their radar up with NOAA weather radio audio.  I usually just tune to someone who has radar up and turn the audio down, living here all my life I can read the radar about as well as they can for stuff that matters to me, so don't need the chatter.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>NOAA transmitters are typical of heavy government , by time a weather event is verified enough to get into the update cycle , it has probably passed you .
NOAA transmitters are pathetically weak and placed in locations where their line of sight coverage is abysmal .
Cross any great lake and you 're likely to pick up TV stations the whole way across but you wo n't pick up any NOAA station more than 10 miles offshore .
( In my case not even this far because the nearest station was about 15 miles inland !
) Try this , get one of those TV/weather radios ( before tomorrow morning !
) scan through the T.V .
channels and if you are within 25 miles of a big city , you 'll probably get some TV stations and if you hear a NOAA station at all , it will be very weak .
Damn. Obviously , different areas of the country are very different !
Here in Oklahoma , the NOAA transmitters are in VERY good locations .
From my house , I can pick up two or three indoors , on one of my ham radio antennas I can pick up seven or eight from across the state and even into Texas .
Just the other day I was in my car listening to the one that is located in the OKC metro area while I was over 100 miles away .
And the updates seem to happen very quickly here .
Indeed , I 'll hear the NWS discussing something with the spotters over the radio , then within just a few minutes the weather radio goes off with the new updates .
If I had any complaints , I wish they would make more fine-grain use of the SAME codes , our storms are n't usually large enough to affect an entire county at once , but even if their alert specifically says " northeast corner of Oklahoma county " I ( on the far west side ) still get the alert because they only break things down to county level with the codes .
I do agree about using TV during weather events .
The one thing I really liked about the switch to DTV was two of the local stations ( NBC and ABC ) set up a secondary channel that was nothing but weather .
They 've ruined it a bit already , with advertising and insets and such , but for a while one of them just had a live feed of their radar up with NOAA weather radio audio .
I usually just tune to someone who has radar up and turn the audio down , living here all my life I can read the radar about as well as they can for stuff that matters to me , so do n't need the chatter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NOAA transmitters are typical of heavy government, by time a weather event is verified enough to get into the update cycle, it has probably passed you.
NOAA transmitters are pathetically weak and placed in locations where their line of sight coverage is abysmal.
Cross any great lake and you're likely to pick up TV stations the whole way across but you won't pick up any NOAA station more than 10 miles offshore.
(In my case not even this far because the nearest station was about 15 miles inland!
) Try this, get one of those TV/weather radios (before tomorrow morning!
) scan through the T.V.
channels and if you are within 25 miles of a big city, you'll probably get some TV stations and if you hear a NOAA station at all, it will be very weak.
Damn.  Obviously, different areas of the country are very different!
Here in Oklahoma, the NOAA transmitters are in VERY good locations.
From my house, I can pick up two or three indoors, on one of my ham radio antennas I can pick up seven or eight from across the state and even into Texas.
Just the other day I was in my car listening to the one that is located in the OKC metro area while I was over 100 miles away.
And the updates seem to happen very quickly here.
Indeed, I'll hear the NWS discussing something with the spotters over the radio, then within just a few minutes the weather radio goes off with the new updates.
If I had any complaints, I wish they would make more fine-grain use of the SAME codes, our storms aren't usually large enough to affect an entire county at once, but even if their alert specifically says "northeast corner of Oklahoma county" I (on the far west side) still get the alert because they only break things down to county level with the codes.
I do agree about using TV during weather events.
The one thing I really liked about the switch to DTV was two of the local stations (NBC and ABC) set up a secondary channel that was nothing but weather.
They've ruined it a bit already, with advertising and insets and such, but for a while one of them just had a live feed of their radar up with NOAA weather radio audio.
I usually just tune to someone who has radar up and turn the audio down, living here all my life I can read the radar about as well as they can for stuff that matters to me, so don't need the chatter.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302619</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299583</id>
	<title>Quite a leap of logic</title>
	<author>dan\_sdot</author>
	<datestamp>1244712360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>the President himself has stated, '... I want to be clear: there will not be another delay.' So it looks like it is going to happen</p></div><p>
Yeah, because the President always does what he says he's going to do
<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>/rollseyes</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the President himself has stated , '... I want to be clear : there will not be another delay .
' So it looks like it is going to happen Yeah , because the President always does what he says he 's going to do /rollseyes</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the President himself has stated, '... I want to be clear: there will not be another delay.
' So it looks like it is going to happen
Yeah, because the President always does what he says he's going to do
 /rollseyes
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301127</id>
	<title>Re:REPENT!</title>
	<author>ColonelSplendid</author>
	<datestamp>1244717880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are not enough mod points.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are not enough mod points .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are not enough mod points.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299719</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300937</id>
	<title>Re:Curious side-effect of the DTV switchover</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244717160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They probably want to increase their modulation to make themselves sound "louder".  Most commercial FM stations are already overmodulating, like 120\%, splattering way outside their assigned bandwidth.  Jerks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They probably want to increase their modulation to make themselves sound " louder " .
Most commercial FM stations are already overmodulating , like 120 \ % , splattering way outside their assigned bandwidth .
Jerks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They probably want to increase their modulation to make themselves sound "louder".
Most commercial FM stations are already overmodulating, like 120\%, splattering way outside their assigned bandwidth.
Jerks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299923</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28335219</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Editor:</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1245080940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a good powered, signal-amplified antenna. he already spent a shitload on the TV, you are suggesting he spends another shitload on a roof antenna?</p><p>No clue about electronics? Kid, I've forgotten more than you ever learned. No go away, son, you bother me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a good powered , signal-amplified antenna .
he already spent a shitload on the TV , you are suggesting he spends another shitload on a roof antenna ? No clue about electronics ?
Kid , I 've forgotten more than you ever learned .
No go away , son , you bother me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a good powered, signal-amplified antenna.
he already spent a shitload on the TV, you are suggesting he spends another shitload on a roof antenna?No clue about electronics?
Kid, I've forgotten more than you ever learned.
No go away, son, you bother me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300297</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300835</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244716680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can attest to this. I've got ~10-20 ethernet cables running every which way through my room. In addition we've got 3 running through the living room. The latest of those due to length had to be run right by the television. Result? As soon as it was plugged in it completely eliminated reception of the VHF channel my mother was watching. The indoor antenna we had remedied it well enough by shifting the phase dial a notch or two, but my room, which has about 7-10 going at any particular time, as well as an HDTV which is acting as my monitor, has *NO* reception whatsoever. Same inside antenna, sans power (which I found was VERY iffy as to whether it improved or detracted from the DTV signals). Even on a clear day there was a signal drop about every 5 minutes on all but one local channel via digital, however all the analog stations showed at least SOMETHING. Mind you when the DTV signal works, it's crisp and clear, but sometimes even when it is, it'll just cut out randomly, which makes me wonder what people with even WORSE reception get.</p><p>I'm not looking forward to the hassle of installing an outdoor antenna just to watch some crummy network TV, and honestly the majority of tele worth watching is available for free on network websites, or hulu anyhow.</p><p>Now if only more of them would support flash on linux...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can attest to this .
I 've got ~ 10-20 ethernet cables running every which way through my room .
In addition we 've got 3 running through the living room .
The latest of those due to length had to be run right by the television .
Result ? As soon as it was plugged in it completely eliminated reception of the VHF channel my mother was watching .
The indoor antenna we had remedied it well enough by shifting the phase dial a notch or two , but my room , which has about 7-10 going at any particular time , as well as an HDTV which is acting as my monitor , has * NO * reception whatsoever .
Same inside antenna , sans power ( which I found was VERY iffy as to whether it improved or detracted from the DTV signals ) .
Even on a clear day there was a signal drop about every 5 minutes on all but one local channel via digital , however all the analog stations showed at least SOMETHING .
Mind you when the DTV signal works , it 's crisp and clear , but sometimes even when it is , it 'll just cut out randomly , which makes me wonder what people with even WORSE reception get.I 'm not looking forward to the hassle of installing an outdoor antenna just to watch some crummy network TV , and honestly the majority of tele worth watching is available for free on network websites , or hulu anyhow.Now if only more of them would support flash on linux.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can attest to this.
I've got ~10-20 ethernet cables running every which way through my room.
In addition we've got 3 running through the living room.
The latest of those due to length had to be run right by the television.
Result? As soon as it was plugged in it completely eliminated reception of the VHF channel my mother was watching.
The indoor antenna we had remedied it well enough by shifting the phase dial a notch or two, but my room, which has about 7-10 going at any particular time, as well as an HDTV which is acting as my monitor, has *NO* reception whatsoever.
Same inside antenna, sans power (which I found was VERY iffy as to whether it improved or detracted from the DTV signals).
Even on a clear day there was a signal drop about every 5 minutes on all but one local channel via digital, however all the analog stations showed at least SOMETHING.
Mind you when the DTV signal works, it's crisp and clear, but sometimes even when it is, it'll just cut out randomly, which makes me wonder what people with even WORSE reception get.I'm not looking forward to the hassle of installing an outdoor antenna just to watch some crummy network TV, and honestly the majority of tele worth watching is available for free on network websites, or hulu anyhow.Now if only more of them would support flash on linux...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300031</id>
	<title>I made the switch a while back</title>
	<author>linebackn</author>
	<datestamp>1244713980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't actually watch much TV but I switched my old TV to Digital over-the-air TV a while back.</p><p>Over all I am happy with it, the pictures are sharp and clear and once I got a proper antenna set up it worked with few "drop outs".</p><p>Getting an antenna set up isn't easy though. What is being transmitted may be digital but the air waves will always be analog. Too little signal strength and the signal can not be displayed at all. Too much strength and the receiver may apparently be "deafened" by it and also not able to display it. Problems such as signal echoes and RF interference are still there but no longer directly visible.</p><p>Those little old VHF "bunny ears" with a UHF hoop antennas likely won't quite cut it for most people unless they live close to the station. A good directional indoor antenna will work much better. Further out, of course people will need larger outdoor UHF optimized antennas. Unfortunately there are some stations what will still be transmitting on VHF.</p><p>And it is important to watch out for RF interference. Digital TV boxes contain high speed digital electronics that can actually interfere with its own operation. And most newer power supplies (wall-warts) are "switched" power supplies and can also create RF interference.</p><p>But once set up, it is completely worth not having to pay for cable.</p><p>Heck, if anybody knows anybody who uses analog over-the-air TV and hasn't gotten hooked up yet, help them out so they don't think they have to run out and pour their wallets out to Comcrapst!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't actually watch much TV but I switched my old TV to Digital over-the-air TV a while back.Over all I am happy with it , the pictures are sharp and clear and once I got a proper antenna set up it worked with few " drop outs " .Getting an antenna set up is n't easy though .
What is being transmitted may be digital but the air waves will always be analog .
Too little signal strength and the signal can not be displayed at all .
Too much strength and the receiver may apparently be " deafened " by it and also not able to display it .
Problems such as signal echoes and RF interference are still there but no longer directly visible.Those little old VHF " bunny ears " with a UHF hoop antennas likely wo n't quite cut it for most people unless they live close to the station .
A good directional indoor antenna will work much better .
Further out , of course people will need larger outdoor UHF optimized antennas .
Unfortunately there are some stations what will still be transmitting on VHF.And it is important to watch out for RF interference .
Digital TV boxes contain high speed digital electronics that can actually interfere with its own operation .
And most newer power supplies ( wall-warts ) are " switched " power supplies and can also create RF interference.But once set up , it is completely worth not having to pay for cable.Heck , if anybody knows anybody who uses analog over-the-air TV and has n't gotten hooked up yet , help them out so they do n't think they have to run out and pour their wallets out to Comcrapst !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't actually watch much TV but I switched my old TV to Digital over-the-air TV a while back.Over all I am happy with it, the pictures are sharp and clear and once I got a proper antenna set up it worked with few "drop outs".Getting an antenna set up isn't easy though.
What is being transmitted may be digital but the air waves will always be analog.
Too little signal strength and the signal can not be displayed at all.
Too much strength and the receiver may apparently be "deafened" by it and also not able to display it.
Problems such as signal echoes and RF interference are still there but no longer directly visible.Those little old VHF "bunny ears" with a UHF hoop antennas likely won't quite cut it for most people unless they live close to the station.
A good directional indoor antenna will work much better.
Further out, of course people will need larger outdoor UHF optimized antennas.
Unfortunately there are some stations what will still be transmitting on VHF.And it is important to watch out for RF interference.
Digital TV boxes contain high speed digital electronics that can actually interfere with its own operation.
And most newer power supplies (wall-warts) are "switched" power supplies and can also create RF interference.But once set up, it is completely worth not having to pay for cable.Heck, if anybody knows anybody who uses analog over-the-air TV and hasn't gotten hooked up yet, help them out so they don't think they have to run out and pour their wallets out to Comcrapst!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299769</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244713020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The pixellation / loss of DTV video is inconvenient, but the loss / breakup of the audio is downright annoying.</p><p>It's a shame there's a lack of redundency for the audio channel in the ATSC standard to reduce the "cliff effect" on the audio portion.</p><p>NTSC for all its faults, and it has many, degrades gracefully and remains somewhat usable well out into fringe areas.</p><p>On a related topic, the U.S. version of DTV results in a noticeable delay to change channels / reacquire signal.</p><p>Ron</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The pixellation / loss of DTV video is inconvenient , but the loss / breakup of the audio is downright annoying.It 's a shame there 's a lack of redundency for the audio channel in the ATSC standard to reduce the " cliff effect " on the audio portion.NTSC for all its faults , and it has many , degrades gracefully and remains somewhat usable well out into fringe areas.On a related topic , the U.S. version of DTV results in a noticeable delay to change channels / reacquire signal.Ron</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The pixellation / loss of DTV video is inconvenient, but the loss / breakup of the audio is downright annoying.It's a shame there's a lack of redundency for the audio channel in the ATSC standard to reduce the "cliff effect" on the audio portion.NTSC for all its faults, and it has many, degrades gracefully and remains somewhat usable well out into fringe areas.On a related topic, the U.S. version of DTV results in a noticeable delay to change channels / reacquire signal.Ron</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301729</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>nsayer</author>
	<datestamp>1244720520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Analog TV has much better range than Digital TV, and has much better tolerances with a bad signal.</p></div><p>Not really. It's just that people have low standards. It is true that you can get a crappy, mostly monochrome snowy picture beyond the range where a DTV receiver would snap over to blue, but <i>in general</i> people who are watching signals like that are outside of the service range of that station anyway, or are using substandard antennas. With DTV, you can't be lazy and trade antenna gain for signal quality because there's nothing between "0" and "1".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Analog TV has much better range than Digital TV , and has much better tolerances with a bad signal.Not really .
It 's just that people have low standards .
It is true that you can get a crappy , mostly monochrome snowy picture beyond the range where a DTV receiver would snap over to blue , but in general people who are watching signals like that are outside of the service range of that station anyway , or are using substandard antennas .
With DTV , you ca n't be lazy and trade antenna gain for signal quality because there 's nothing between " 0 " and " 1 " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Analog TV has much better range than Digital TV, and has much better tolerances with a bad signal.Not really.
It's just that people have low standards.
It is true that you can get a crappy, mostly monochrome snowy picture beyond the range where a DTV receiver would snap over to blue, but in general people who are watching signals like that are outside of the service range of that station anyway, or are using substandard antennas.
With DTV, you can't be lazy and trade antenna gain for signal quality because there's nothing between "0" and "1".
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301223</id>
	<title>Re:Curious side-effect of the DTV switchover</title>
	<author>hey!</author>
	<datestamp>1244718240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmmm.</p><p>I did the math, and on paper at least it seems extremely unlikely for an FM station operating at 89.5Mhz to interfere with Ch 6 NTSC audio.   There should be at least 1.5Mhz of unused buffer spectrum between them.  That's fairly comparable to the NTSC audio's separation from video, which is around 2MHz or so.   FM radio stations are supposed to stay within about 180Khz of bandwidth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm.I did the math , and on paper at least it seems extremely unlikely for an FM station operating at 89.5Mhz to interfere with Ch 6 NTSC audio .
There should be at least 1.5Mhz of unused buffer spectrum between them .
That 's fairly comparable to the NTSC audio 's separation from video , which is around 2MHz or so .
FM radio stations are supposed to stay within about 180Khz of bandwidth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm.I did the math, and on paper at least it seems extremely unlikely for an FM station operating at 89.5Mhz to interfere with Ch 6 NTSC audio.
There should be at least 1.5Mhz of unused buffer spectrum between them.
That's fairly comparable to the NTSC audio's separation from video, which is around 2MHz or so.
FM radio stations are supposed to stay within about 180Khz of bandwidth.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299923</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302913</id>
	<title>Re:seriously...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244727900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;Your observation is easy to say from the viewpoint of someone technologically aware</p><p>I see the DTV conversion commercials all the time.  It's not a point of being a techie.  It's a point of PAYING ATTENTION when the announcer guy says your TV won't work anymore past June 12th unless you get the converter box or cable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; Your observation is easy to say from the viewpoint of someone technologically awareI see the DTV conversion commercials all the time .
It 's not a point of being a techie .
It 's a point of PAYING ATTENTION when the announcer guy says your TV wo n't work anymore past June 12th unless you get the converter box or cable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;Your observation is easy to say from the viewpoint of someone technologically awareI see the DTV conversion commercials all the time.
It's not a point of being a techie.
It's a point of PAYING ATTENTION when the announcer guy says your TV won't work anymore past June 12th unless you get the converter box or cable.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301785</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301617</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Editor:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244719860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>there's no loss yet. several stations are broadcasting with very little power. the test to know how many channels you will lose will take place Saturday. if (and only if) you wake up in the morning, turn the TV on, then find out it still feels like St Louis '55, try a better antenna. it's too early to panick.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>there 's no loss yet .
several stations are broadcasting with very little power .
the test to know how many channels you will lose will take place Saturday .
if ( and only if ) you wake up in the morning , turn the TV on , then find out it still feels like St Louis '55 , try a better antenna .
it 's too early to panick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there's no loss yet.
several stations are broadcasting with very little power.
the test to know how many channels you will lose will take place Saturday.
if (and only if) you wake up in the morning, turn the TV on, then find out it still feels like St Louis '55, try a better antenna.
it's too early to panick.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299579</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>DigitalSorceress</author>
	<datestamp>1244712360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>During a weather emergency, the TV not the first place I go for relevant information. Noaa.gov, weather.com, and/or a local AM "News and weather station" are my collective first choice.</p><p>However, I do know what you mean. If someone really is relying on the TV during really bad weather, analog would probably be more fault-tolerant.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>During a weather emergency , the TV not the first place I go for relevant information .
Noaa.gov , weather.com , and/or a local AM " News and weather station " are my collective first choice.However , I do know what you mean .
If someone really is relying on the TV during really bad weather , analog would probably be more fault-tolerant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>During a weather emergency, the TV not the first place I go for relevant information.
Noaa.gov, weather.com, and/or a local AM "News and weather station" are my collective first choice.However, I do know what you mean.
If someone really is relying on the TV during really bad weather, analog would probably be more fault-tolerant.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300829</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244716680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just buy her a new TV you cheap hump. No more "box" to figure out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just buy her a new TV you cheap hump .
No more " box " to figure out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just buy her a new TV you cheap hump.
No more "box" to figure out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302045</id>
	<title>Ridiculous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244722020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No matter how much they try, the US can't mandate anything to do with the internet, because it doesn't own the internet.  You can tell everybody in the US to switch to IPV6, but that isn't going to make everyone else in the world immediately comply.  Same as a shutting down internet gambling.  You can shut down the US based ones, but you can't shut down offshore ones.</p></div><p>All he said was "coordinate" and you make it sound like he wants the government holding a fucking gun to everyone's head.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No matter how much they try , the US ca n't mandate anything to do with the internet , because it does n't own the internet .
You can tell everybody in the US to switch to IPV6 , but that is n't going to make everyone else in the world immediately comply .
Same as a shutting down internet gambling .
You can shut down the US based ones , but you ca n't shut down offshore ones.All he said was " coordinate " and you make it sound like he wants the government holding a fucking gun to everyone 's head .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No matter how much they try, the US can't mandate anything to do with the internet, because it doesn't own the internet.
You can tell everybody in the US to switch to IPV6, but that isn't going to make everyone else in the world immediately comply.
Same as a shutting down internet gambling.
You can shut down the US based ones, but you can't shut down offshore ones.All he said was "coordinate" and you make it sound like he wants the government holding a fucking gun to everyone's head.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299785</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299719</id>
	<title>REPENT!</title>
	<author>ObsessiveMathsFreak</author>
	<datestamp>1244712840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>REPENT! Repent ye geeky sinners! For the end of days is upon ye!</p><p>Lo! As it is written, there shall befall a great and terrible calamity upon all the kin of the nerdy, and their most precious gadgets and devices shall be laid low by the machinations of the wicked! And they shall lament, and make agitated phone calls even in the early hours of the late morning!</p><p>And there shall be a great moaning as the geeky rise to diagnose the woes of their parents and uncles and aunts and cousins and neighbors and co-workers and friends and even children! Naught will your warnings save you as the wretched shall pay no need. And ye shall be swamped with piteous wails and whinges as the masses of humanity beat down thy doors and fill up they inboxes with useless protestations and opinions and heed not thy councils.</p><p>Thou shalt spend thy last days overseeing the procurement and installation of countless digital devices. Yea, in peoples very living rooms! And thou shalt be condemned to maintain and provide unpaid support for each and every one of these cheap and buggy imports till the end of thy unhappy life.</p><p>Repent geeky sinners! Give up thy sinful social ways and cast off thy connections to society, like the mathematicians and programmers of old! Give up thy internet and telephone connections and families and social life! Give up and repent, lest ye be danmed! REPENT!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>REPENT !
Repent ye geeky sinners !
For the end of days is upon ye ! Lo !
As it is written , there shall befall a great and terrible calamity upon all the kin of the nerdy , and their most precious gadgets and devices shall be laid low by the machinations of the wicked !
And they shall lament , and make agitated phone calls even in the early hours of the late morning ! And there shall be a great moaning as the geeky rise to diagnose the woes of their parents and uncles and aunts and cousins and neighbors and co-workers and friends and even children !
Naught will your warnings save you as the wretched shall pay no need .
And ye shall be swamped with piteous wails and whinges as the masses of humanity beat down thy doors and fill up they inboxes with useless protestations and opinions and heed not thy councils.Thou shalt spend thy last days overseeing the procurement and installation of countless digital devices .
Yea , in peoples very living rooms !
And thou shalt be condemned to maintain and provide unpaid support for each and every one of these cheap and buggy imports till the end of thy unhappy life.Repent geeky sinners !
Give up thy sinful social ways and cast off thy connections to society , like the mathematicians and programmers of old !
Give up thy internet and telephone connections and families and social life !
Give up and repent , lest ye be danmed !
REPENT !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>REPENT!
Repent ye geeky sinners!
For the end of days is upon ye!Lo!
As it is written, there shall befall a great and terrible calamity upon all the kin of the nerdy, and their most precious gadgets and devices shall be laid low by the machinations of the wicked!
And they shall lament, and make agitated phone calls even in the early hours of the late morning!And there shall be a great moaning as the geeky rise to diagnose the woes of their parents and uncles and aunts and cousins and neighbors and co-workers and friends and even children!
Naught will your warnings save you as the wretched shall pay no need.
And ye shall be swamped with piteous wails and whinges as the masses of humanity beat down thy doors and fill up they inboxes with useless protestations and opinions and heed not thy councils.Thou shalt spend thy last days overseeing the procurement and installation of countless digital devices.
Yea, in peoples very living rooms!
And thou shalt be condemned to maintain and provide unpaid support for each and every one of these cheap and buggy imports till the end of thy unhappy life.Repent geeky sinners!
Give up thy sinful social ways and cast off thy connections to society, like the mathematicians and programmers of old!
Give up thy internet and telephone connections and families and social life!
Give up and repent, lest ye be danmed!
REPENT!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28305195</id>
	<title>Re:Bad use of tax dollars in support of commerce</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244840340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're a moron.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're a moron .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're a moron.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301259</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299919</id>
	<title>The delay was unnecessary</title>
	<author>theurge14</author>
	<datestamp>1244713560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The only way to get the masses to switch is to force it upon them.  Hence the continuing popularity of Windows XP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only way to get the masses to switch is to force it upon them .
Hence the continuing popularity of Windows XP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only way to get the masses to switch is to force it upon them.
Hence the continuing popularity of Windows XP.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335</id>
	<title>I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1244711520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not afraid of the switch tomorrow. I've already spent the last few months getting repeated phone calls from my grandma complaining about the funny new box we put on her TV so she can still get her damn Judge Judy.
</p><p>The last one was the best. Grandma called up and informed me that her new remote was broken. So I called my cousin, who drives over to her house and finds that the "broken" remote is the result of grandma having put a fucking doily on top of the box (blocking its IR receiver). I shit you not.
</p><p>
I love my HDTV. But it's a demanding love.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not afraid of the switch tomorrow .
I 've already spent the last few months getting repeated phone calls from my grandma complaining about the funny new box we put on her TV so she can still get her damn Judge Judy .
The last one was the best .
Grandma called up and informed me that her new remote was broken .
So I called my cousin , who drives over to her house and finds that the " broken " remote is the result of grandma having put a fucking doily on top of the box ( blocking its IR receiver ) .
I shit you not .
I love my HDTV .
But it 's a demanding love .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not afraid of the switch tomorrow.
I've already spent the last few months getting repeated phone calls from my grandma complaining about the funny new box we put on her TV so she can still get her damn Judge Judy.
The last one was the best.
Grandma called up and informed me that her new remote was broken.
So I called my cousin, who drives over to her house and finds that the "broken" remote is the result of grandma having put a fucking doily on top of the box (blocking its IR receiver).
I shit you not.
I love my HDTV.
But it's a demanding love.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301537</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244719560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Analog TV has much better range than Digital TV</p></div></blockquote><p>I'm not sure where you pulled this information from, but where I live I can't get a damn thing with rabbit ears, but a loose piece of coax plugged into an ATSC tuner gets perfect reception.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Analog TV has much better range than Digital TVI 'm not sure where you pulled this information from , but where I live I ca n't get a damn thing with rabbit ears , but a loose piece of coax plugged into an ATSC tuner gets perfect reception .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Analog TV has much better range than Digital TVI'm not sure where you pulled this information from, but where I live I can't get a damn thing with rabbit ears, but a loose piece of coax plugged into an ATSC tuner gets perfect reception.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302515</id>
	<title>Re:seriously...</title>
	<author>magnusrex1280</author>
	<datestamp>1244725200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>While I'm one to take all points of view on a subject and contemplate and contrast them, I have a really hard time accepting that anyone who hasn't figured out they need a digital converter box, and that analog broadcast is going away, is anything other than lazy or stupid.
<br> <br>
The group you're describing (folks who don't even know how cordless phones work, and don't care about having broadband internet) would care about and pay attention to the DTV transition precisely BECAUSE they don't want to switch to more advanced tech (cable, FiOS, satellite) for their viewing, but they don't want to suddenly have a box that only displays static.
<br> <br>
If I were a neanderthal in the technology sense, I still wouldn't want to lose my free broadcast content that shows up on my glass picturebox, and I would pay attention to the countless ads on the sides of busses, and in the middle of my favorite shows, and anywhere else I would care to look, that tell me it's all going away if I don't buy another box.
<br> <br>
I do, however, have to admit that I get the giggles when I think about some people being confused when they can't get any channels, and I get more giggles when I imagine someone asking me why their TV only shows static now, and I say "You know that digital TV transition they've been talking about for over two years, with all the ads everywhere? It finally happened".</htmltext>
<tokenext>While I 'm one to take all points of view on a subject and contemplate and contrast them , I have a really hard time accepting that anyone who has n't figured out they need a digital converter box , and that analog broadcast is going away , is anything other than lazy or stupid .
The group you 're describing ( folks who do n't even know how cordless phones work , and do n't care about having broadband internet ) would care about and pay attention to the DTV transition precisely BECAUSE they do n't want to switch to more advanced tech ( cable , FiOS , satellite ) for their viewing , but they do n't want to suddenly have a box that only displays static .
If I were a neanderthal in the technology sense , I still would n't want to lose my free broadcast content that shows up on my glass picturebox , and I would pay attention to the countless ads on the sides of busses , and in the middle of my favorite shows , and anywhere else I would care to look , that tell me it 's all going away if I do n't buy another box .
I do , however , have to admit that I get the giggles when I think about some people being confused when they ca n't get any channels , and I get more giggles when I imagine someone asking me why their TV only shows static now , and I say " You know that digital TV transition they 've been talking about for over two years , with all the ads everywhere ?
It finally happened " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I'm one to take all points of view on a subject and contemplate and contrast them, I have a really hard time accepting that anyone who hasn't figured out they need a digital converter box, and that analog broadcast is going away, is anything other than lazy or stupid.
The group you're describing (folks who don't even know how cordless phones work, and don't care about having broadband internet) would care about and pay attention to the DTV transition precisely BECAUSE they don't want to switch to more advanced tech (cable, FiOS, satellite) for their viewing, but they don't want to suddenly have a box that only displays static.
If I were a neanderthal in the technology sense, I still wouldn't want to lose my free broadcast content that shows up on my glass picturebox, and I would pay attention to the countless ads on the sides of busses, and in the middle of my favorite shows, and anywhere else I would care to look, that tell me it's all going away if I don't buy another box.
I do, however, have to admit that I get the giggles when I think about some people being confused when they can't get any channels, and I get more giggles when I imagine someone asking me why their TV only shows static now, and I say "You know that digital TV transition they've been talking about for over two years, with all the ads everywhere?
It finally happened".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301785</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304653</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Editor:</title>
	<author>Phroggy</author>
	<datestamp>1244745840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can get MORE digital channels than analog, and the picture quality is infinitely better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can get MORE digital channels than analog , and the picture quality is infinitely better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can get MORE digital channels than analog, and the picture quality is infinitely better.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299339</id>
	<title>Your official guide to the Jigaboo presidency</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244711520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger! If handled properly, your apeman will give years of valuable, if reluctant, service.</p><p>INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.<br>You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model. Field niggers work best in a serial configuration, i.e. chained together. Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it, and don't even think about taking that chain off, ever. Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them. This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud. House niggers work best as standalone units, but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape. At this stage, your nigger can also be given a name. Most owners use the same names over and over, since niggers become confused by too much data. Rufus, Rastus, Remus, Toby, Carslisle, Carlton, Hey-You!-Yes-you!, Yeller, Blackstar, and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger. If your nigger is a ho, it should be called Latrelle, L'Tanya, or Jemima. Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke. Pearl, Blossom, and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes. These names go straight over your nigger's head, by the way.</p><p>CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGER<br>Owing to a design error, your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords. Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular. However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue. Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least, you won't hear it complaining anywhere near as much. Niggers have nothing interesting to say, anyway. Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons (yours, mine, and that of women, not the nigger's). This is strongly recommended, and frankly, it's a mystery why this is not done on the boat</p><p>HOUSING YOUR NIGGER.<br>Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars. Make sure, however, that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through. The rule of thumb is, four niggers per square yard of cage. So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers. You can site a nigger cage anywhere, even on soft ground. Don't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage. Niggers never invented the shovel before and they're not about to now. In any case, your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape. As long as the free food holds out, your nigger is living better than it did in Africa, so it will stay put. Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage, as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.</p><p>FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.<br>Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and watermelon. You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly doesn't deserve it. Instead, feed it on porridge with salt, and creek water. Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields, other niggers, etc. Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day. Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer, since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives. He reports he doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result. You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work, since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained. You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton. You really would. Coffee beans? Don't ask. You have no idea.</p><p>MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.<br>Niggers are very, very averse to work of any kind. The nigger's most</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger !
If handled properly , your apeman will give years of valuable , if reluctant , service.INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model .
Field niggers work best in a serial configuration , i.e .
chained together .
Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it , and do n't even think about taking that chain off , ever .
Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them .
This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud .
House niggers work best as standalone units , but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape .
At this stage , your nigger can also be given a name .
Most owners use the same names over and over , since niggers become confused by too much data .
Rufus , Rastus , Remus , Toby , Carslisle , Carlton , Hey-You ! -Yes-you ! , Yeller , Blackstar , and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger .
If your nigger is a ho , it should be called Latrelle , L'Tanya , or Jemima .
Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke .
Pearl , Blossom , and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes .
These names go straight over your nigger 's head , by the way.CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGEROwing to a design error , your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords .
Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - " muh dick " being the most popular .
However , others make barking , yelping , yapping noises and appear to be in some pain , so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger 's tongue .
Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least , you wo n't hear it complaining anywhere near as much .
Niggers have nothing interesting to say , anyway .
Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons ( yours , mine , and that of women , not the nigger 's ) .
This is strongly recommended , and frankly , it 's a mystery why this is not done on the boatHOUSING YOUR NIGGER.Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars .
Make sure , however , that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through .
The rule of thumb is , four niggers per square yard of cage .
So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers .
You can site a nigger cage anywhere , even on soft ground .
Do n't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage .
Niggers never invented the shovel before and they 're not about to now .
In any case , your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape .
As long as the free food holds out , your nigger is living better than it did in Africa , so it will stay put .
Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage , as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.Your Nigger likes fried chicken , corn bread , and watermelon .
You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly does n't deserve it .
Instead , feed it on porridge with salt , and creek water .
Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields , other niggers , etc .
Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat , but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day .
Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer , since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives .
He reports he does n't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result .
You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work , since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained .
You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton .
You really would .
Coffee beans ?
Do n't ask .
You have no idea.MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.Niggers are very , very averse to work of any kind .
The nigger 's most</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger!
If handled properly, your apeman will give years of valuable, if reluctant, service.INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model.
Field niggers work best in a serial configuration, i.e.
chained together.
Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it, and don't even think about taking that chain off, ever.
Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them.
This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud.
House niggers work best as standalone units, but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape.
At this stage, your nigger can also be given a name.
Most owners use the same names over and over, since niggers become confused by too much data.
Rufus, Rastus, Remus, Toby, Carslisle, Carlton, Hey-You!-Yes-you!, Yeller, Blackstar, and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger.
If your nigger is a ho, it should be called Latrelle, L'Tanya, or Jemima.
Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke.
Pearl, Blossom, and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes.
These names go straight over your nigger's head, by the way.CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGEROwing to a design error, your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords.
Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular.
However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue.
Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least, you won't hear it complaining anywhere near as much.
Niggers have nothing interesting to say, anyway.
Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons (yours, mine, and that of women, not the nigger's).
This is strongly recommended, and frankly, it's a mystery why this is not done on the boatHOUSING YOUR NIGGER.Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars.
Make sure, however, that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through.
The rule of thumb is, four niggers per square yard of cage.
So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers.
You can site a nigger cage anywhere, even on soft ground.
Don't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage.
Niggers never invented the shovel before and they're not about to now.
In any case, your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape.
As long as the free food holds out, your nigger is living better than it did in Africa, so it will stay put.
Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage, as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and watermelon.
You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly doesn't deserve it.
Instead, feed it on porridge with salt, and creek water.
Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields, other niggers, etc.
Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day.
Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer, since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives.
He reports he doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result.
You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work, since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained.
You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton.
You really would.
Coffee beans?
Don't ask.
You have no idea.MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.Niggers are very, very averse to work of any kind.
The nigger's most</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300679</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>sribe</author>
	<datestamp>1244716200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, I live in a kind of remote rugged location, and since the switch to DTV my picture is <b>much</b> better. Now my internet access gets flaky when it's windy--lower transmitting tower...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I live in a kind of remote rugged location , and since the switch to DTV my picture is much better .
Now my internet access gets flaky when it 's windy--lower transmitting tower.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I live in a kind of remote rugged location, and since the switch to DTV my picture is much better.
Now my internet access gets flaky when it's windy--lower transmitting tower...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299631</id>
	<title>seriously...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244712540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If someone hasn't figured out they need to pick up a DTV tuner, and gone out and obtained one by now, but they can sit there and watch the static.  There has been AMPLE warning that this was coming, so even stupidity and laziness wont cut it for an excuse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If someone has n't figured out they need to pick up a DTV tuner , and gone out and obtained one by now , but they can sit there and watch the static .
There has been AMPLE warning that this was coming , so even stupidity and laziness wont cut it for an excuse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If someone hasn't figured out they need to pick up a DTV tuner, and gone out and obtained one by now, but they can sit there and watch the static.
There has been AMPLE warning that this was coming, so even stupidity and laziness wont cut it for an excuse.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303871</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>paul248</author>
	<datestamp>1244736120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And what happens when you have broadcasts coming in from multiple directions?  Sure, you can get a rotating antenna, but what if you're recording to a DVR when you're not home?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And what happens when you have broadcasts coming in from multiple directions ?
Sure , you can get a rotating antenna , but what if you 're recording to a DVR when you 're not home ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And what happens when you have broadcasts coming in from multiple directions?
Sure, you can get a rotating antenna, but what if you're recording to a DVR when you're not home?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300153</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300833</id>
	<title>Your local laundromat and barber shop...</title>
	<author>RobertB-DC</author>
	<datestamp>1244716680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I did a load of clothes at the local laundromat last night, and enjoyed a episode of the New Twilight Zone (which I guess is itself pretty old now) as my unmentionables tumbled in the dryer.  The TV, perched precariously atop a non-functional pop machine, was older than my kids.  The signal was fuzzy, and I believe the "antenna" was a brown extension cord, ends stripped and screwed into the old 300-ohm input.  Most of the time the color dropped out, leaving the New Twilight Zone looking oddly like the Old Twilight Zone.</p><p>A couple of weeks ago, I watched a static-y news broadcast at the local barber shop.  His TV was equipped with a newfangled set of rabbit ears of much more recent vintage, maybe 10 years old or even newer.</p><p>Tomorrow, both locations will almost certainly dish up nothing but that "analog nightlight".  And even if the owners get a fancy new box -- not likely at the laundromat, and not terribly certain at the barber shop -- it won't help.  The metal in the washers and dryers will probably futz up the digital signal beyond repair.  At the barber shop, every time he turns on the clippers -- instead of just getting a little fuzzy, the screen will likely go blank.</p><p>It should be an interesting day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did a load of clothes at the local laundromat last night , and enjoyed a episode of the New Twilight Zone ( which I guess is itself pretty old now ) as my unmentionables tumbled in the dryer .
The TV , perched precariously atop a non-functional pop machine , was older than my kids .
The signal was fuzzy , and I believe the " antenna " was a brown extension cord , ends stripped and screwed into the old 300-ohm input .
Most of the time the color dropped out , leaving the New Twilight Zone looking oddly like the Old Twilight Zone.A couple of weeks ago , I watched a static-y news broadcast at the local barber shop .
His TV was equipped with a newfangled set of rabbit ears of much more recent vintage , maybe 10 years old or even newer.Tomorrow , both locations will almost certainly dish up nothing but that " analog nightlight " .
And even if the owners get a fancy new box -- not likely at the laundromat , and not terribly certain at the barber shop -- it wo n't help .
The metal in the washers and dryers will probably futz up the digital signal beyond repair .
At the barber shop , every time he turns on the clippers -- instead of just getting a little fuzzy , the screen will likely go blank.It should be an interesting day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did a load of clothes at the local laundromat last night, and enjoyed a episode of the New Twilight Zone (which I guess is itself pretty old now) as my unmentionables tumbled in the dryer.
The TV, perched precariously atop a non-functional pop machine, was older than my kids.
The signal was fuzzy, and I believe the "antenna" was a brown extension cord, ends stripped and screwed into the old 300-ohm input.
Most of the time the color dropped out, leaving the New Twilight Zone looking oddly like the Old Twilight Zone.A couple of weeks ago, I watched a static-y news broadcast at the local barber shop.
His TV was equipped with a newfangled set of rabbit ears of much more recent vintage, maybe 10 years old or even newer.Tomorrow, both locations will almost certainly dish up nothing but that "analog nightlight".
And even if the owners get a fancy new box -- not likely at the laundromat, and not terribly certain at the barber shop -- it won't help.
The metal in the washers and dryers will probably futz up the digital signal beyond repair.
At the barber shop, every time he turns on the clippers -- instead of just getting a little fuzzy, the screen will likely go blank.It should be an interesting day.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28308131</id>
	<title>Re:We're Doing this for You ... r Money</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244821200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can already hear Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck/etc. screaming about the social fascist Obama administration ramming standards down the throats of real Americans.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can already hear Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck/etc .
screaming about the social fascist Obama administration ramming standards down the throats of real Americans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can already hear Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck/etc.
screaming about the social fascist Obama administration ramming standards down the throats of real Americans.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301595</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Editor:</title>
	<author>Manchot</author>
	<datestamp>1244719740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I know for a fact that the digital version of every channel in St. Louis comes in nice and strong with plain old rabbit ears, because I installed my parents' tuner two years ago. However, my parents actually live in the city, and none of those channels are the aforementioned 12, 17, 19, 20, 28, 48, or 55. Also, Springfield, Illinois is a good 90 miles away from St. Louis, so I'm guessing that the letter-writer must use a repeater to get the St. Louis channels. IIRC, repeater stations aren't required to switch to digital, which would explain why the writer can't pick them up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know for a fact that the digital version of every channel in St. Louis comes in nice and strong with plain old rabbit ears , because I installed my parents ' tuner two years ago .
However , my parents actually live in the city , and none of those channels are the aforementioned 12 , 17 , 19 , 20 , 28 , 48 , or 55 .
Also , Springfield , Illinois is a good 90 miles away from St. Louis , so I 'm guessing that the letter-writer must use a repeater to get the St. Louis channels .
IIRC , repeater stations are n't required to switch to digital , which would explain why the writer ca n't pick them up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know for a fact that the digital version of every channel in St. Louis comes in nice and strong with plain old rabbit ears, because I installed my parents' tuner two years ago.
However, my parents actually live in the city, and none of those channels are the aforementioned 12, 17, 19, 20, 28, 48, or 55.
Also, Springfield, Illinois is a good 90 miles away from St. Louis, so I'm guessing that the letter-writer must use a repeater to get the St. Louis channels.
IIRC, repeater stations aren't required to switch to digital, which would explain why the writer can't pick them up.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300019</id>
	<title>Only lost one</title>
	<author>stabiesoft</author>
	<datestamp>1244713920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>in austin, I have only lost one station in the transition, a spanish language channel that was very weak in analog. I get 6 digitals. (FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC, WB &amp; PBS). The nice thing for me is one of the stations broadcasts weather on a 2nd channel, so I get a radar 24/7, which lets me see where it is raining. For me, its all a plus to switch to digital. Much cleaner signal and HD. the only negative has been slower channel surfing since signal acquisition is slower. This is all with indoor rabbit ears (like 12 bucks).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>in austin , I have only lost one station in the transition , a spanish language channel that was very weak in analog .
I get 6 digitals .
( FOX , ABC , CBS , NBC , WB &amp; PBS ) .
The nice thing for me is one of the stations broadcasts weather on a 2nd channel , so I get a radar 24/7 , which lets me see where it is raining .
For me , its all a plus to switch to digital .
Much cleaner signal and HD .
the only negative has been slower channel surfing since signal acquisition is slower .
This is all with indoor rabbit ears ( like 12 bucks ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in austin, I have only lost one station in the transition, a spanish language channel that was very weak in analog.
I get 6 digitals.
(FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC, WB &amp; PBS).
The nice thing for me is one of the stations broadcasts weather on a 2nd channel, so I get a radar 24/7, which lets me see where it is raining.
For me, its all a plus to switch to digital.
Much cleaner signal and HD.
the only negative has been slower channel surfing since signal acquisition is slower.
This is all with indoor rabbit ears (like 12 bucks).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302721</id>
	<title>Re:Curious side-effect of the DTV switchover</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244726460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>because even though the main signal is filtered to be around 89.5 MHz there is still some amount of noise that is broadcasted in the other frequencies, usually the most is some multiple of said frequency or nearby frequencies.... They already have their signal maxed out to the regulations allowed to add noise to those frequencies, but when nothing uses a nearby band they can probably get away with adding more noise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>because even though the main signal is filtered to be around 89.5 MHz there is still some amount of noise that is broadcasted in the other frequencies , usually the most is some multiple of said frequency or nearby frequencies.... They already have their signal maxed out to the regulations allowed to add noise to those frequencies , but when nothing uses a nearby band they can probably get away with adding more noise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>because even though the main signal is filtered to be around 89.5 MHz there is still some amount of noise that is broadcasted in the other frequencies, usually the most is some multiple of said frequency or nearby frequencies.... They already have their signal maxed out to the regulations allowed to add noise to those frequencies, but when nothing uses a nearby band they can probably get away with adding more noise.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299923</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28305485</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>XO</author>
	<datestamp>1244801280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Digital Satellite also requires that you effectively aim a Laser beam at a specific point 10 miles or so straight up.  The digital broadcasts still cover a huge area, not a specific point.  So, you'll be able to receive much more signal under much more significantly bad conditions than with a satellite.</p><p>A digital broadcast signal at 1/10th the power of the analog broadcast can be picked up over a longer range, as well.  When they first started doing digital HD broadcasts, they were doing them at similar power to their analog broadcasts, and I was literally able to pick up Chicago and New York broadcasts from Detroit.  With an indoor antenna.   Now, using my short-range (40 mile UHF analog) outdoor antenna, I can pick up most of Michigan, and northern Ohio</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Digital Satellite also requires that you effectively aim a Laser beam at a specific point 10 miles or so straight up .
The digital broadcasts still cover a huge area , not a specific point .
So , you 'll be able to receive much more signal under much more significantly bad conditions than with a satellite.A digital broadcast signal at 1/10th the power of the analog broadcast can be picked up over a longer range , as well .
When they first started doing digital HD broadcasts , they were doing them at similar power to their analog broadcasts , and I was literally able to pick up Chicago and New York broadcasts from Detroit .
With an indoor antenna .
Now , using my short-range ( 40 mile UHF analog ) outdoor antenna , I can pick up most of Michigan , and northern Ohio</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Digital Satellite also requires that you effectively aim a Laser beam at a specific point 10 miles or so straight up.
The digital broadcasts still cover a huge area, not a specific point.
So, you'll be able to receive much more signal under much more significantly bad conditions than with a satellite.A digital broadcast signal at 1/10th the power of the analog broadcast can be picked up over a longer range, as well.
When they first started doing digital HD broadcasts, they were doing them at similar power to their analog broadcasts, and I was literally able to pick up Chicago and New York broadcasts from Detroit.
With an indoor antenna.
Now, using my short-range (40 mile UHF analog) outdoor antenna, I can pick up most of Michigan, and northern Ohio</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301779</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Editor:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244720760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wow, a slashdotter with no clue about electronics.</p><p>&gt; A friend who uses an indoor antenna</p><p>Well, there's your friend's problem! Replace your friend's crappy indoor antenna!</p><p>If they're an apartment dweller, FCC OTARD regulations<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>Whoa! Hold up there, this is no place for that type of language.  How do you know mcgrew is an otard, anway?  I think they prefer to be called &quot;differently abled&quot; or some such nonsense.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , a slashdotter with no clue about electronics. &gt; A friend who uses an indoor antennaWell , there 's your friend 's problem !
Replace your friend 's crappy indoor antenna ! If they 're an apartment dweller , FCC OTARD regulations ...Whoa !
Hold up there , this is no place for that type of language .
How do you know mcgrew is an otard , anway ?
I think they prefer to be called " differently abled " or some such nonsense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, a slashdotter with no clue about electronics.&gt; A friend who uses an indoor antennaWell, there's your friend's problem!
Replace your friend's crappy indoor antenna!If they're an apartment dweller, FCC OTARD regulations ...Whoa!
Hold up there, this is no place for that type of language.
How do you know mcgrew is an otard, anway?
I think they prefer to be called "differently abled" or some such nonsense.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300297</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299795</id>
	<title>If they did this transition 40 years ago...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244713140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is one small step for man.....one giant leap fo0001111001111111010111011110011100111001111011100111011111...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is one small step for man.....one giant leap fo0001111001111111010111011110011100111001111011100111011111.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is one small step for man.....one giant leap fo0001111001111111010111011110011100111001111011100111011111...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304471</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>slash.duncan</author>
	<datestamp>1244742600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Easy enough (well, in theory anyway, actually doing it is possible but beyond many).  You know that rotating antenna you mentioned?  Motorize it and hook it to a computer, possibly the same one running the DVR program (MythTV, of course =:^).  Program the computer to rotate the antenna as necessary to pickup the desired channels and trigger that ~30 seconds (or whatever the rotation time is) before the program starts.  If it's timed right, you could even record back to back on different directional channels, as the rotation will happen during the commercials.</p><p>FWIW, years ago (80s), living out on the Navajo reservation in the middle of nowhere in New Mexico (50 miles from town one direction, a couple miles from the trading post aka convenience store, and 30 miles from a small town and hospital in the other direction, Farmington being the 50 mile town for anyone familiar with NW NM or wanting to look at a map), one of my neighbors had a nice big tall antenna (with a power booster) they used to rotate to pick up Farmington, Window Rock and Gallup stations.  It worked surprisingly well.  I just went back to visit a couple months ago and it's still about the same.  I've no idea what they'll get out there now, with digital only, tho.</p><p>But personally, no TV here for years.  The zombie programming repeating ads just got too much for me, altho I guess MythTV takes care of that reasonably well now, if I wanted to bother.  But they thing is, they're targeting the ad-programmable zombie, not the folks that actually enjoy thinking for themselves, so computers and the net are a better fit in any case.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Easy enough ( well , in theory anyway , actually doing it is possible but beyond many ) .
You know that rotating antenna you mentioned ?
Motorize it and hook it to a computer , possibly the same one running the DVR program ( MythTV , of course = : ^ ) .
Program the computer to rotate the antenna as necessary to pickup the desired channels and trigger that ~ 30 seconds ( or whatever the rotation time is ) before the program starts .
If it 's timed right , you could even record back to back on different directional channels , as the rotation will happen during the commercials.FWIW , years ago ( 80s ) , living out on the Navajo reservation in the middle of nowhere in New Mexico ( 50 miles from town one direction , a couple miles from the trading post aka convenience store , and 30 miles from a small town and hospital in the other direction , Farmington being the 50 mile town for anyone familiar with NW NM or wanting to look at a map ) , one of my neighbors had a nice big tall antenna ( with a power booster ) they used to rotate to pick up Farmington , Window Rock and Gallup stations .
It worked surprisingly well .
I just went back to visit a couple months ago and it 's still about the same .
I 've no idea what they 'll get out there now , with digital only , tho.But personally , no TV here for years .
The zombie programming repeating ads just got too much for me , altho I guess MythTV takes care of that reasonably well now , if I wanted to bother .
But they thing is , they 're targeting the ad-programmable zombie , not the folks that actually enjoy thinking for themselves , so computers and the net are a better fit in any case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Easy enough (well, in theory anyway, actually doing it is possible but beyond many).
You know that rotating antenna you mentioned?
Motorize it and hook it to a computer, possibly the same one running the DVR program (MythTV, of course =:^).
Program the computer to rotate the antenna as necessary to pickup the desired channels and trigger that ~30 seconds (or whatever the rotation time is) before the program starts.
If it's timed right, you could even record back to back on different directional channels, as the rotation will happen during the commercials.FWIW, years ago (80s), living out on the Navajo reservation in the middle of nowhere in New Mexico (50 miles from town one direction, a couple miles from the trading post aka convenience store, and 30 miles from a small town and hospital in the other direction, Farmington being the 50 mile town for anyone familiar with NW NM or wanting to look at a map), one of my neighbors had a nice big tall antenna (with a power booster) they used to rotate to pick up Farmington, Window Rock and Gallup stations.
It worked surprisingly well.
I just went back to visit a couple months ago and it's still about the same.
I've no idea what they'll get out there now, with digital only, tho.But personally, no TV here for years.
The zombie programming repeating ads just got too much for me, altho I guess MythTV takes care of that reasonably well now, if I wanted to bother.
But they thing is, they're targeting the ad-programmable zombie, not the folks that actually enjoy thinking for themselves, so computers and the net are a better fit in any case.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303871</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303087</id>
	<title>Re:seriously...</title>
	<author>phorm</author>
	<datestamp>1244729460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As mentioned in many of the above. Good luck to those on the fringe who can't get a good signal, or with portables that can't use a DTV tuner, etc etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As mentioned in many of the above .
Good luck to those on the fringe who ca n't get a good signal , or with portables that ca n't use a DTV tuner , etc etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As mentioned in many of the above.
Good luck to those on the fringe who can't get a good signal, or with portables that can't use a DTV tuner, etc etc.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299631</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299873</id>
	<title>Re:greedy</title>
	<author>mr\_mischief</author>
	<datestamp>1244713440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A $40 coupon towards a ~$40 box is pretty much free. They sent out millions of cards worth $40 or $80 for one or two converters.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A $ 40 coupon towards a ~ $ 40 box is pretty much free .
They sent out millions of cards worth $ 40 or $ 80 for one or two converters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A $40 coupon towards a ~$40 box is pretty much free.
They sent out millions of cards worth $40 or $80 for one or two converters.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299643</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303977</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>Talgrath</author>
	<datestamp>1244736960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As an example, in Washington State people in certain portions of the Olympia area will not be able to receive their TV signals over the air due to the mountains blocking the signal; a problem that didn't occur with analog TV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As an example , in Washington State people in certain portions of the Olympia area will not be able to receive their TV signals over the air due to the mountains blocking the signal ; a problem that did n't occur with analog TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As an example, in Washington State people in certain portions of the Olympia area will not be able to receive their TV signals over the air due to the mountains blocking the signal; a problem that didn't occur with analog TV.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300297</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Editor:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244714880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, a slashdotter with no clue about electronics.</p><p>&gt; A friend who uses an indoor antenna</p><p>Well, there's your friend's problem! Replace your friend's crappy indoor antenna!</p><p>If they're an apartment dweller, FCC OTARD regulations assures that they can install a proper antenna on their porch: http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html</p><p>Or if it must be indoor, build them an antenna: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQhlmJTMzw</p><p>Friends don't let friends use crappy antennas!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , a slashdotter with no clue about electronics. &gt; A friend who uses an indoor antennaWell , there 's your friend 's problem !
Replace your friend 's crappy indoor antenna ! If they 're an apartment dweller , FCC OTARD regulations assures that they can install a proper antenna on their porch : http : //www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.htmlOr if it must be indoor , build them an antenna : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = EWQhlmJTMzwFriends do n't let friends use crappy antennas !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, a slashdotter with no clue about electronics.&gt; A friend who uses an indoor antennaWell, there's your friend's problem!
Replace your friend's crappy indoor antenna!If they're an apartment dweller, FCC OTARD regulations assures that they can install a proper antenna on their porch: http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.htmlOr if it must be indoor, build them an antenna: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWQhlmJTMzwFriends don't let friends use crappy antennas!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299785</id>
	<title>Re:We're Doing this for You ... r Money</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244713080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>No matter how much they try, the US can't mandate anything to do with the internet, because it doesn't own the internet.  You can tell everybody in the US to switch to IPV6, but that isn't going to make everyone else in the world immediately comply.  Same as a shutting down internet gambling.  You can shut down the US based ones, but you can't shut down offshore ones.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No matter how much they try , the US ca n't mandate anything to do with the internet , because it does n't own the internet .
You can tell everybody in the US to switch to IPV6 , but that is n't going to make everyone else in the world immediately comply .
Same as a shutting down internet gambling .
You can shut down the US based ones , but you ca n't shut down offshore ones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No matter how much they try, the US can't mandate anything to do with the internet, because it doesn't own the internet.
You can tell everybody in the US to switch to IPV6, but that isn't going to make everyone else in the world immediately comply.
Same as a shutting down internet gambling.
You can shut down the US based ones, but you can't shut down offshore ones.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28309581</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1244827140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>There's tons of people who are going to be cut off</i></p><p>Sounds like it would actually be a good reason to cut them off. Get them doing something other than vegetating in front of a TV, and they may lose a lot of that "tons".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's tons of people who are going to be cut offSounds like it would actually be a good reason to cut them off .
Get them doing something other than vegetating in front of a TV , and they may lose a lot of that " tons " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's tons of people who are going to be cut offSounds like it would actually be a good reason to cut them off.
Get them doing something other than vegetating in front of a TV, and they may lose a lot of that "tons".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301891</id>
	<title>Re:Analog nightlight?</title>
	<author>nsayer</author>
	<datestamp>1244721240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I thought that with the transition, the old analog frequencies were being reclaimed.</p></div><p>DTV is still going to be in the same channels from 2-51. Channels 52-69 were auctioned off. This whole transition was done to pack the broadcasters into a smaller space, among other things. The adjacent channel allocation rules for DTV are less cumbersome than they were for analog. Here in the Bay Area, Sutro Tower will transmit signals on 33, 34, 38, 39, 43, 44 and 45 (that's not the complete list, just the adjacent ones). That was impossible before.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>So are they delaying the completion of the transition to allow for this nightlight service?</p></div><p>No. Only stations whose analog frequencies will remain unused and won't interfere with post-transition DTV operations will be allowed to do it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>When will we have our stations at their final frequencies?</p></div><p>Tomorrow.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought that with the transition , the old analog frequencies were being reclaimed.DTV is still going to be in the same channels from 2-51 .
Channels 52-69 were auctioned off .
This whole transition was done to pack the broadcasters into a smaller space , among other things .
The adjacent channel allocation rules for DTV are less cumbersome than they were for analog .
Here in the Bay Area , Sutro Tower will transmit signals on 33 , 34 , 38 , 39 , 43 , 44 and 45 ( that 's not the complete list , just the adjacent ones ) .
That was impossible before.So are they delaying the completion of the transition to allow for this nightlight service ? No .
Only stations whose analog frequencies will remain unused and wo n't interfere with post-transition DTV operations will be allowed to do it.When will we have our stations at their final frequencies ? Tomorrow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought that with the transition, the old analog frequencies were being reclaimed.DTV is still going to be in the same channels from 2-51.
Channels 52-69 were auctioned off.
This whole transition was done to pack the broadcasters into a smaller space, among other things.
The adjacent channel allocation rules for DTV are less cumbersome than they were for analog.
Here in the Bay Area, Sutro Tower will transmit signals on 33, 34, 38, 39, 43, 44 and 45 (that's not the complete list, just the adjacent ones).
That was impossible before.So are they delaying the completion of the transition to allow for this nightlight service?No.
Only stations whose analog frequencies will remain unused and won't interfere with post-transition DTV operations will be allowed to do it.When will we have our stations at their final frequencies?Tomorrow.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299419</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301681</id>
	<title>even cable's not safe</title>
	<author>RomulusNR</author>
	<datestamp>1244720220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Within the last few weeks the local Comcast moved 40 of their sub-100 channels to digital-only. Probably more so they can do <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switched\_video" title="wikipedia.org">switched delivery</a> [wikipedia.org] than because of the DTV transition (broadcast channels etc. are still being fed in analog). But it screwed with the recordings on my dual-tuner Tivo for weeks until I manually updated all of them to "box" from "cbl" -- annoyingly, cutting them out from the benefits of dual-tuner in the first place.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p><p>So long, electromechanical television reception, you go into the pile with analog magnetic video storage and analog plastic audio storage. Analog radio reception, you're not looking too good...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Within the last few weeks the local Comcast moved 40 of their sub-100 channels to digital-only .
Probably more so they can do switched delivery [ wikipedia.org ] than because of the DTV transition ( broadcast channels etc .
are still being fed in analog ) .
But it screwed with the recordings on my dual-tuner Tivo for weeks until I manually updated all of them to " box " from " cbl " -- annoyingly , cutting them out from the benefits of dual-tuner in the first place .
: PSo long , electromechanical television reception , you go into the pile with analog magnetic video storage and analog plastic audio storage .
Analog radio reception , you 're not looking too good.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Within the last few weeks the local Comcast moved 40 of their sub-100 channels to digital-only.
Probably more so they can do switched delivery [wikipedia.org] than because of the DTV transition (broadcast channels etc.
are still being fed in analog).
But it screwed with the recordings on my dual-tuner Tivo for weeks until I manually updated all of them to "box" from "cbl" -- annoyingly, cutting them out from the benefits of dual-tuner in the first place.
:PSo long, electromechanical television reception, you go into the pile with analog magnetic video storage and analog plastic audio storage.
Analog radio reception, you're not looking too good...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300089</id>
	<title>Re:REPENT!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244714160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who will stand before Obama and petition for the people? Would he disconnect those still using analog TV for the sake of those using digital? What if there are 50 people still dependent on analog broadcasts, will he disconnect it then? What if only 10?</p><p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Gen\%2018:22-33;&amp;version=65;" title="biblegateway.com" rel="nofollow">Gen 18:22-33</a> [biblegateway.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who will stand before Obama and petition for the people ?
Would he disconnect those still using analog TV for the sake of those using digital ?
What if there are 50 people still dependent on analog broadcasts , will he disconnect it then ?
What if only 10 ? Gen 18 : 22-33 [ biblegateway.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who will stand before Obama and petition for the people?
Would he disconnect those still using analog TV for the sake of those using digital?
What if there are 50 people still dependent on analog broadcasts, will he disconnect it then?
What if only 10?Gen 18:22-33 [biblegateway.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299719</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300115</id>
	<title>Re:"Februrary"?</title>
	<author>damien\_kane</author>
	<datestamp>1244714280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I guess they fixed it for you<br>
Of course, for mentioning this, I must be an insensitive clod. Never mind me, I'm going to go have some more Kool-Aid... OH YEAH!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess they fixed it for you Of course , for mentioning this , I must be an insensitive clod .
Never mind me , I 'm going to go have some more Kool-Aid... OH YEAH !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess they fixed it for you
Of course, for mentioning this, I must be an insensitive clod.
Never mind me, I'm going to go have some more Kool-Aid... OH YEAH!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299367</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300287</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>knarf</author>
	<datestamp>1244714880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Analog TV has much better range than Digital TV, and has much better tolerances with a bad signal.</p></div></blockquote><p>My experience is exactly the opposite. Before the switch to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVB-T" title="wikipedia.org">DVB-T</a> [wikipedia.org] I did not have any reception. I live on a farm in rural Sweden, it is a bit hilly here, the nearest transmitter is about 50 km to the south - so distance should not be a problem. Nevertheless, analog television was a complete no-go. I thought that was quite OK as I prefer to be TV-free but my <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSSLQ" title="wikipedia.org">POSSLQ</a> [wikipedia.org] wanted TV... so when the switch to digital came I got us some boxes, selected the best one, returned the rest to the shop and lo and behold - six channels of brain-numbing misery flood into our farmhouse in full digital glory.</p><p>In other words, it is not a given that a switch from analog to digital will exclude more current viewers than it will include new ones... unfortunately... it was a good excuse after all - no sorry love, tried everything but it just does not work here, see?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Analog TV has much better range than Digital TV , and has much better tolerances with a bad signal.My experience is exactly the opposite .
Before the switch to DVB-T [ wikipedia.org ] I did not have any reception .
I live on a farm in rural Sweden , it is a bit hilly here , the nearest transmitter is about 50 km to the south - so distance should not be a problem .
Nevertheless , analog television was a complete no-go .
I thought that was quite OK as I prefer to be TV-free but my POSSLQ [ wikipedia.org ] wanted TV... so when the switch to digital came I got us some boxes , selected the best one , returned the rest to the shop and lo and behold - six channels of brain-numbing misery flood into our farmhouse in full digital glory.In other words , it is not a given that a switch from analog to digital will exclude more current viewers than it will include new ones... unfortunately... it was a good excuse after all - no sorry love , tried everything but it just does not work here , see ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Analog TV has much better range than Digital TV, and has much better tolerances with a bad signal.My experience is exactly the opposite.
Before the switch to DVB-T [wikipedia.org] I did not have any reception.
I live on a farm in rural Sweden, it is a bit hilly here, the nearest transmitter is about 50 km to the south - so distance should not be a problem.
Nevertheless, analog television was a complete no-go.
I thought that was quite OK as I prefer to be TV-free but my POSSLQ [wikipedia.org] wanted TV... so when the switch to digital came I got us some boxes, selected the best one, returned the rest to the shop and lo and behold - six channels of brain-numbing misery flood into our farmhouse in full digital glory.In other words, it is not a given that a switch from analog to digital will exclude more current viewers than it will include new ones... unfortunately... it was a good excuse after all - no sorry love, tried everything but it just does not work here, see?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28306495</id>
	<title>Re:Curious side-effect of the DTV switchover</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244813040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Third-order intermod products?  I'm too lazy to do the calculations, but a back-of-the-envelope estimate puts one of the products right in the middle of a 10.7MHz IF passband.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Third-order intermod products ?
I 'm too lazy to do the calculations , but a back-of-the-envelope estimate puts one of the products right in the middle of a 10.7MHz IF passband .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Third-order intermod products?
I'm too lazy to do the calculations, but a back-of-the-envelope estimate puts one of the products right in the middle of a 10.7MHz IF passband.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299923</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28306971</id>
	<title>Re:seriously...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244816040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about apathy?  Is that an excuse?</p><p>I have given up watching the static that was broadcast television, and decided<br>that losing the signal is not going to affect me much anyway.</p><p>I am not going to go out and spend my money for the latest gadget that I rarely<br>use.  When my analog set dies, I may again think about rejoining the broadcast<br>set, but until then I will get by with my VHS collection on TV, and radio otherwise.</p><p>Procrastinating Luddites of the world unite!!!<br>(Careful - we just may do that someday)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about apathy ?
Is that an excuse ? I have given up watching the static that was broadcast television , and decidedthat losing the signal is not going to affect me much anyway.I am not going to go out and spend my money for the latest gadget that I rarelyuse .
When my analog set dies , I may again think about rejoining the broadcastset , but until then I will get by with my VHS collection on TV , and radio otherwise.Procrastinating Luddites of the world unite ! ! !
( Careful - we just may do that someday )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about apathy?
Is that an excuse?I have given up watching the static that was broadcast television, and decidedthat losing the signal is not going to affect me much anyway.I am not going to go out and spend my money for the latest gadget that I rarelyuse.
When my analog set dies, I may again think about rejoining the broadcastset, but until then I will get by with my VHS collection on TV, and radio otherwise.Procrastinating Luddites of the world unite!!!
(Careful - we just may do that someday)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299631</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300163</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Editor:</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1244714460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The switch hasn't happened yet. Frequencies and power levels change tomorrow; if things are still bad after your market has switched, you should complain then.</p><p>I'm all set to gain a station (unless my estimation of the reception I will get from a particular transmitter location is way off; analog is clear as a bell, so I'm not real pessimistic).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The switch has n't happened yet .
Frequencies and power levels change tomorrow ; if things are still bad after your market has switched , you should complain then.I 'm all set to gain a station ( unless my estimation of the reception I will get from a particular transmitter location is way off ; analog is clear as a bell , so I 'm not real pessimistic ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The switch hasn't happened yet.
Frequencies and power levels change tomorrow; if things are still bad after your market has switched, you should complain then.I'm all set to gain a station (unless my estimation of the reception I will get from a particular transmitter location is way off; analog is clear as a bell, so I'm not real pessimistic).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300541</id>
	<title>What is an estimated viewer?</title>
	<author>91degrees</author>
	<datestamp>1244715660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A person we can't work out exactly whether we're watching or not but can make a reasonable judgement about how much they're watching?</htmltext>
<tokenext>A person we ca n't work out exactly whether we 're watching or not but can make a reasonable judgement about how much they 're watching ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A person we can't work out exactly whether we're watching or not but can make a reasonable judgement about how much they're watching?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299487</id>
	<title>Deadline history?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244712060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anybody got a timeline, of the original planned switchover date, then the first delay to when, second delay to when, etc.?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anybody got a timeline , of the original planned switchover date , then the first delay to when , second delay to when , etc .
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anybody got a timeline, of the original planned switchover date, then the first delay to when, second delay to when, etc.
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301259</id>
	<title>Bad use of tax dollars in support of commerce</title>
	<author>kindbud</author>
	<datestamp>1244718360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People who haven't yet got a box that is subsidized with a $40 government voucher are too poor or lazy to be valuable consumers.  They're probably so poor they don't even pay taxes.  Why spend millions upon millions of tax dollars to bring these bottom-of-the-barrel consumers to advertisers when they can't even afford the nearly-free converter?  It's not worth it.  The overall quality of audiences will be improved for advertisers if we just leave these last few millions of poor people behind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People who have n't yet got a box that is subsidized with a $ 40 government voucher are too poor or lazy to be valuable consumers .
They 're probably so poor they do n't even pay taxes .
Why spend millions upon millions of tax dollars to bring these bottom-of-the-barrel consumers to advertisers when they ca n't even afford the nearly-free converter ?
It 's not worth it .
The overall quality of audiences will be improved for advertisers if we just leave these last few millions of poor people behind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People who haven't yet got a box that is subsidized with a $40 government voucher are too poor or lazy to be valuable consumers.
They're probably so poor they don't even pay taxes.
Why spend millions upon millions of tax dollars to bring these bottom-of-the-barrel consumers to advertisers when they can't even afford the nearly-free converter?
It's not worth it.
The overall quality of audiences will be improved for advertisers if we just leave these last few millions of poor people behind.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300677</id>
	<title>Re:I have already faced my worst nightmare</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244716200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No TV receivable here thanks to the switch = certain missed tornado warning. THANKS FCC. I bought your fucking adapter box(despite the fact I have satellite, it was already known to go out when bad weather hits..unlike my analog)...and now I have 5 less channels than I did before and come the first sign of bad weather I can't tune into any of the remaining 2.</p><p>So the moment a tornado hits our house, I'm suing the fucking government...if someone else does it first, I'll happily join in on a class-action(even if it makes some attorney rich) because I sure as fuck didn't ask for this...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No TV receivable here thanks to the switch = certain missed tornado warning .
THANKS FCC .
I bought your fucking adapter box ( despite the fact I have satellite , it was already known to go out when bad weather hits..unlike my analog ) ...and now I have 5 less channels than I did before and come the first sign of bad weather I ca n't tune into any of the remaining 2.So the moment a tornado hits our house , I 'm suing the fucking government...if someone else does it first , I 'll happily join in on a class-action ( even if it makes some attorney rich ) because I sure as fuck did n't ask for this.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No TV receivable here thanks to the switch = certain missed tornado warning.
THANKS FCC.
I bought your fucking adapter box(despite the fact I have satellite, it was already known to go out when bad weather hits..unlike my analog)...and now I have 5 less channels than I did before and come the first sign of bad weather I can't tune into any of the remaining 2.So the moment a tornado hits our house, I'm suing the fucking government...if someone else does it first, I'll happily join in on a class-action(even if it makes some attorney rich) because I sure as fuck didn't ask for this...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299579</parent>
</comment>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_23</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303977
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_2</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300153
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303871
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28310627
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_25</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301037
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302281
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_48</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303997
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_76</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299433
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301239
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_53</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300935
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_49</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299579
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302619
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304231
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_60</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299631
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301785
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28308069
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_43</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300153
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303871
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28306581
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_17</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301595
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_19</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299611
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_77</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299579
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300677
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_22</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28305485
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_50</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302679
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_12</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300163
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_14</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299419
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299737
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_5</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300679
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_74</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302351
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_35</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300923
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_51</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299643
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299873
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_42</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301537
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_65</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301065
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_38</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299631
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28306971
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_41</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301729
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_32</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299419
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28305953
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_15</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299923
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300973
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_6</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299923
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301223
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_29</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299367
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300187
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_8</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301259
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28305195
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_71</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299719
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301127
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_57</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299901
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_3</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300019
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_33</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299919
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300277
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_64</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301637
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_47</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299631
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301785
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304879
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_40</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299919
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303307
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_63</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300967
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_54</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28305283
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_28</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299631
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300971
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_30</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299719
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28313261
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_27</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300297
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28335219
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_18</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299433
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28308131
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_21</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299419
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300095
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_78</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303009
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_0</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299769
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304335
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_55</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299923
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300937
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_46</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299579
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302619
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303697
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_69</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300287
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_62</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300829
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_45</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299631
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301785
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302913
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_36</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303975
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_52</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300297
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301779
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_26</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299923
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28306495
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_75</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299433
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299785
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302447
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_20</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300037
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_80</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300153
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303871
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304471
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_16</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304653
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_7</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300341
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_82</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299631
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302503
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_9</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299919
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300511
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_10</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299923
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302721
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_68</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299367
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300115
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_39</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300993
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_81</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299433
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299837
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_44</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299919
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304475
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_72</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299719
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300089
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_67</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299631
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303087
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_58</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301723
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_34</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301617
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_11</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300257
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_13</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299631
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301785
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302515
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_4</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299579
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302619
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28307797
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_73</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300835
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_59</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299433
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299785
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302045
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_66</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299433
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299785
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301357
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_37</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299419
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301891
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_1</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301259
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28308569
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_70</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299919
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300709
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_31</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299919
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301047
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_56</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299433
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299785
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301577
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_61</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300119
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_79</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299631
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301785
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28308049
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_09_06_11_1950220_24</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28309581
</commentlist>
</thread>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.22</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299663
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299901
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301595
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300341
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304653
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301617
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300037
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300119
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300019
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300257
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300967
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300297
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301779
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28335219
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300163
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.13</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301259
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28308569
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28305195
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.20</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299539
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.11</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299949
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.3</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299631
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300971
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303087
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28306971
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302503
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301785
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304879
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302515
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302913
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28308049
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28308069
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.14</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301037
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302281
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.1</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300867
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.12</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299643
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299873
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.24</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300469
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.21</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300769
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.8</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299335
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301637
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300829
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299475
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300835
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300287
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300153
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303871
----http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304471
----http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28306581
----http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28310627
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299611
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301723
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303975
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28305283
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302351
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301065
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302679
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303977
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301729
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300935
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300679
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28305485
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301537
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299769
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304335
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299579
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300677
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302619
----http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304231
----http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303697
----http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28307797
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28309581
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300923
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300993
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303009
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303997
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.19</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299583
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.6</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299419
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301891
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299737
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300095
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28305953
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.23</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301393
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.9</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301189
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.17</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299495
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.0</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299923
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301223
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300937
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28306495
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300973
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302721
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.15</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299433
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28308131
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301239
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299785
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301357
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302045
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28302447
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301577
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299837
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.7</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300723
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.18</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299719
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300089
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301127
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28313261
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.4</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300917
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.5</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300031
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.16</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299919
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300511
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28301047
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28304475
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300709
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300277
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28303307
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.10</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28299367
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300115
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300187
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation09_06_11_1950220.2</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_11_1950220.28300833
</commentlist>
</conversation>
