<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_10_2015228</id>
	<title>For Airplane Safety, Trying To Keep Birds From Planes</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1244622720000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://narrativefallacy.com/" rel="nofollow">The Narrative Fallacy</a> writes <i>"Every year pilots in the US report more than 5,000 bird strikes, which cause at least $400 million in damage to commercial and military aircraft. Now safety hearings are beginning on the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/09/nyregion/09usair.html">crash of US Airways Flight 1549</a>, where a flock of eight-pound geese apparently brought down a plane, plunging it and 155 people into the frigid waters of the Hudson River. Despite having experimented with everything from electromagnetics to ultrasonic devices to scarecrows, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has yet to endorse a single solution that will keep birds out of the path of an oncoming aircraft."</i> (More below.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Narrative Fallacy writes " Every year pilots in the US report more than 5,000 bird strikes , which cause at least $ 400 million in damage to commercial and military aircraft .
Now safety hearings are beginning on the crash of US Airways Flight 1549 , where a flock of eight-pound geese apparently brought down a plane , plunging it and 155 people into the frigid waters of the Hudson River .
Despite having experimented with everything from electromagnetics to ultrasonic devices to scarecrows , the Federal Aviation Administration ( FAA ) has yet to endorse a single solution that will keep birds out of the path of an oncoming aircraft .
" ( More below .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Narrative Fallacy writes "Every year pilots in the US report more than 5,000 bird strikes, which cause at least $400 million in damage to commercial and military aircraft.
Now safety hearings are beginning on the crash of US Airways Flight 1549, where a flock of eight-pound geese apparently brought down a plane, plunging it and 155 people into the frigid waters of the Hudson River.
Despite having experimented with everything from electromagnetics to ultrasonic devices to scarecrows, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has yet to endorse a single solution that will keep birds out of the path of an oncoming aircraft.
" (More below.
)</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285289</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>Stargoat</author>
	<datestamp>1244628420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah.  I have a solution.  Stargoat, a Remington 870, and a box of shells.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah .
I have a solution .
Stargoat , a Remington 870 , and a box of shells .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah.
I have a solution.
Stargoat, a Remington 870, and a box of shells.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285577</id>
	<title>Re:Cost factor</title>
	<author>Eil</author>
	<datestamp>1244629680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Regardless of how much money they can throw at a technical solution, nothing will be as cost effective as paying a bunch of guys in blaze orange vests to shoot at birds near the airports.</p></div></blockquote><p>As someone who has lived in the midwest, I can tell you those guys in orange vests have a hard enough time recognizing the difference between animals with two legs and four, I wouldn't count on them to be able to tell the difference between birds that flap their wings and those that don't.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Regardless of how much money they can throw at a technical solution , nothing will be as cost effective as paying a bunch of guys in blaze orange vests to shoot at birds near the airports.As someone who has lived in the midwest , I can tell you those guys in orange vests have a hard enough time recognizing the difference between animals with two legs and four , I would n't count on them to be able to tell the difference between birds that flap their wings and those that do n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Regardless of how much money they can throw at a technical solution, nothing will be as cost effective as paying a bunch of guys in blaze orange vests to shoot at birds near the airports.As someone who has lived in the midwest, I can tell you those guys in orange vests have a hard enough time recognizing the difference between animals with two legs and four, I wouldn't count on them to be able to tell the difference between birds that flap their wings and those that don't.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286195</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>geobeck</author>
	<datestamp>1244631900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I worked on an airport, years ago.  At various places around the graded area, we had propane-powered noisemakers that would let off a gunshot-like sound every few minutes.  Unfortunately, the birds became accustomed to the sound.  The seagulls would still scatter, but only for half a minute.  The ravens would merely flutter their feathers and continue doing what they were doing.</p><p>Other bird hazard tools included a starter pistol, a pickup truck (to scare them a little more directly), and a rifle.</p><p>Then again, this was a very small airport, so the more direct measures were only needed on the occasion that a plane was actually taking off or landing.  And, of course, these measures would not have done anything for the Hudson incident, which happened far from the airport.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I worked on an airport , years ago .
At various places around the graded area , we had propane-powered noisemakers that would let off a gunshot-like sound every few minutes .
Unfortunately , the birds became accustomed to the sound .
The seagulls would still scatter , but only for half a minute .
The ravens would merely flutter their feathers and continue doing what they were doing.Other bird hazard tools included a starter pistol , a pickup truck ( to scare them a little more directly ) , and a rifle.Then again , this was a very small airport , so the more direct measures were only needed on the occasion that a plane was actually taking off or landing .
And , of course , these measures would not have done anything for the Hudson incident , which happened far from the airport .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I worked on an airport, years ago.
At various places around the graded area, we had propane-powered noisemakers that would let off a gunshot-like sound every few minutes.
Unfortunately, the birds became accustomed to the sound.
The seagulls would still scatter, but only for half a minute.
The ravens would merely flutter their feathers and continue doing what they were doing.Other bird hazard tools included a starter pistol, a pickup truck (to scare them a little more directly), and a rifle.Then again, this was a very small airport, so the more direct measures were only needed on the occasion that a plane was actually taking off or landing.
And, of course, these measures would not have done anything for the Hudson incident, which happened far from the airport.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285299</id>
	<title>Re:Falcons</title>
	<author>K. S. Kyosuke</author>
	<datestamp>1244628480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Funny, here in poor Central Europe, we also use <a href="http://www.sokolnictvi.net/index.php?option=com\_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=63&amp;Itemid=63" title="sokolnictvi.net">trained falcons</a> [sokolnictvi.net] (flash required, lame edit, lame sound, no translation, but at least some nice illustrative shots<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)). I guess they are even more underpaid than us. Perhaps the Americans could use F-16s?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny , here in poor Central Europe , we also use trained falcons [ sokolnictvi.net ] ( flash required , lame edit , lame sound , no translation , but at least some nice illustrative shots : - ) ) .
I guess they are even more underpaid than us .
Perhaps the Americans could use F-16s ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny, here in poor Central Europe, we also use trained falcons [sokolnictvi.net] (flash required, lame edit, lame sound, no translation, but at least some nice illustrative shots :-)).
I guess they are even more underpaid than us.
Perhaps the Americans could use F-16s?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28289521</id>
	<title>Slow down</title>
	<author>not\_surt</author>
	<datestamp>1244657280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Fly slowly and let the birds avoid you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fly slowly and let the birds avoid you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fly slowly and let the birds avoid you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28288825</id>
	<title>Re:Let natural selection do it</title>
	<author>dancingmad</author>
	<datestamp>1244650560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You don't understand natural selection.</p><p>Is flying in front of plans a genetic trait?<br>If not, it can't be selected for or against.</p><p>I wish people would take a few biology classes when they're in college.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't understand natural selection.Is flying in front of plans a genetic trait ? If not , it ca n't be selected for or against.I wish people would take a few biology classes when they 're in college .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't understand natural selection.Is flying in front of plans a genetic trait?If not, it can't be selected for or against.I wish people would take a few biology classes when they're in college.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28292615</id>
	<title>Re:A screen</title>
	<author>CompMD</author>
	<datestamp>1244731080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...which also prevents air from getting to the engine, making it kind of hard to run.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...which also prevents air from getting to the engine , making it kind of hard to run .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...which also prevents air from getting to the engine, making it kind of hard to run.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28291191</id>
	<title>Respect nature and plan routes around it...</title>
	<author>master\_p</author>
	<datestamp>1244722200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...just plan flight paths that do not cross bird migration routes. Nature has its own planes, we should respect them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...just plan flight paths that do not cross bird migration routes .
Nature has its own planes , we should respect them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...just plan flight paths that do not cross bird migration routes.
Nature has its own planes, we should respect them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285145</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>rhathar</author>
	<datestamp>1244627700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They're coming right for us!</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're coming right for us !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're coming right for us!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287949</id>
	<title>Re:Life and Risk</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244643180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Next up:  coming up with a technological solution to prevent cars from crashing into eachother or losing control and skidding off cliffs.  Let's insist that every car MUST ship with an avitation-quality TCAS installed<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Next up : coming up with a technological solution to prevent cars from crashing into eachother or losing control and skidding off cliffs .
Let 's insist that every car MUST ship with an avitation-quality TCAS installed ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Next up:  coming up with a technological solution to prevent cars from crashing into eachother or losing control and skidding off cliffs.
Let's insist that every car MUST ship with an avitation-quality TCAS installed ;-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285685</id>
	<title>Re:A screen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244630100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If the mesh is too fine it will restrict airflow too much, and if its too coarse it will just shred the birds. They do have the giant fan blade that acts as a blender. If the minced bird is too much for the engine to handle then maybe the actual engine intake could be momentarily blocked so the former bird just gets routed around with the air that cools the engine. A sensor on the fan blade should be able to pick up any worrisome impacts to get the timing right. <br> <br>I would be more concerned about the exposed wings and cockpit, since those don't have bird blenders to guard them. The cockpit window gets the turkey test, but I am not familiar with how the wings (especially the flaps) hold up. Perhaps I'm wrong and the engines are the whole problem, but in that case I don't know what those engineers are doing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the mesh is too fine it will restrict airflow too much , and if its too coarse it will just shred the birds .
They do have the giant fan blade that acts as a blender .
If the minced bird is too much for the engine to handle then maybe the actual engine intake could be momentarily blocked so the former bird just gets routed around with the air that cools the engine .
A sensor on the fan blade should be able to pick up any worrisome impacts to get the timing right .
I would be more concerned about the exposed wings and cockpit , since those do n't have bird blenders to guard them .
The cockpit window gets the turkey test , but I am not familiar with how the wings ( especially the flaps ) hold up .
Perhaps I 'm wrong and the engines are the whole problem , but in that case I do n't know what those engineers are doing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the mesh is too fine it will restrict airflow too much, and if its too coarse it will just shred the birds.
They do have the giant fan blade that acts as a blender.
If the minced bird is too much for the engine to handle then maybe the actual engine intake could be momentarily blocked so the former bird just gets routed around with the air that cools the engine.
A sensor on the fan blade should be able to pick up any worrisome impacts to get the timing right.
I would be more concerned about the exposed wings and cockpit, since those don't have bird blenders to guard them.
The cockpit window gets the turkey test, but I am not familiar with how the wings (especially the flaps) hold up.
Perhaps I'm wrong and the engines are the whole problem, but in that case I don't know what those engineers are doing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284909</id>
	<title>Sharks</title>
	<author>multipart/mixed</author>
	<datestamp>1244626800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With lasers on their heads.</p><p>Best. Plan. Ever.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With lasers on their heads.Best .
Plan. Ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With lasers on their heads.Best.
Plan. Ever.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286383</id>
	<title>Re:Cost factor</title>
	<author>shermo</author>
	<datestamp>1244632980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed, but would they even requirement payment?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed , but would they even requirement payment ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed, but would they even requirement payment?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28288323</id>
	<title>Re:USAF</title>
	<author>jd</author>
	<datestamp>1244645760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Duck? Nothing! I wanna see a plane collide with a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haast's\_Eagle" title="wikipedia.org">Haast's Eagle</a> [wikipedia.org] or a <a href="http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/1421/flight-secrets-largest-bird-ever-revealed" title="cosmosmagazine.com">Argentavis magnificens</a> [cosmosmagazine.com]! (But it may take a while for genetic engineering to bring them back.)</p><p>Bet you anything they'd do a damn sight more damage!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Duck ?
Nothing ! I wan na see a plane collide with a Haast 's Eagle [ wikipedia.org ] or a Argentavis magnificens [ cosmosmagazine.com ] !
( But it may take a while for genetic engineering to bring them back .
) Bet you anything they 'd do a damn sight more damage !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Duck?
Nothing! I wanna see a plane collide with a Haast's Eagle [wikipedia.org] or a Argentavis magnificens [cosmosmagazine.com]!
(But it may take a while for genetic engineering to bring them back.
)Bet you anything they'd do a damn sight more damage!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28291155</id>
	<title>Re:A screen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244721660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>As a beginning point, IAAAE (i am an aerospace engineer).  The primary control surfaces of an airplane are on the trailing edge of the wing, making them quite a bit less vulnerable.  Also, seriously?  Block the engine intake momentairly so the the bird gets routed around?  There are two problems with this.  First, is you are talking amazingly fast systems to mechanically move something to redirect whatever it is you are trying to redirect.  Not possible.   Too much mass, too little time (like a millisecond or two of detection then decision then action).  Also, there is nowhere to "route too".  Chances are when the bird hits, it's going to hit in the bypass region of the engines.  This is the region which is partially used for cooling, but also where most of the forward thrust is derived from (in modern airliners, the engines are like a ducted turbo-prop basically)

The second problem is that the problem is not the bird hitting the engine core and messing up the turbine system.  It's not like the bird parts are getting sucked into your compressor stages and causing them to stall out because bird parts aren't combustible.  The problem is that when the bird strikes the main fan (the big thing up front a.k.a the bird blender), it causes an imbalance in this huge mass that is rotating rather quickly.  This then causes problems in the entire engine with bearings starting to get overstressed, tons of heat and wear getting introduced, and the system shutting down due to these problems.  Mind you, this all happens over a fairly short amount of time (like a few minutes).</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a beginning point , IAAAE ( i am an aerospace engineer ) .
The primary control surfaces of an airplane are on the trailing edge of the wing , making them quite a bit less vulnerable .
Also , seriously ?
Block the engine intake momentairly so the the bird gets routed around ?
There are two problems with this .
First , is you are talking amazingly fast systems to mechanically move something to redirect whatever it is you are trying to redirect .
Not possible .
Too much mass , too little time ( like a millisecond or two of detection then decision then action ) .
Also , there is nowhere to " route too " .
Chances are when the bird hits , it 's going to hit in the bypass region of the engines .
This is the region which is partially used for cooling , but also where most of the forward thrust is derived from ( in modern airliners , the engines are like a ducted turbo-prop basically ) The second problem is that the problem is not the bird hitting the engine core and messing up the turbine system .
It 's not like the bird parts are getting sucked into your compressor stages and causing them to stall out because bird parts are n't combustible .
The problem is that when the bird strikes the main fan ( the big thing up front a.k.a the bird blender ) , it causes an imbalance in this huge mass that is rotating rather quickly .
This then causes problems in the entire engine with bearings starting to get overstressed , tons of heat and wear getting introduced , and the system shutting down due to these problems .
Mind you , this all happens over a fairly short amount of time ( like a few minutes ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a beginning point, IAAAE (i am an aerospace engineer).
The primary control surfaces of an airplane are on the trailing edge of the wing, making them quite a bit less vulnerable.
Also, seriously?
Block the engine intake momentairly so the the bird gets routed around?
There are two problems with this.
First, is you are talking amazingly fast systems to mechanically move something to redirect whatever it is you are trying to redirect.
Not possible.
Too much mass, too little time (like a millisecond or two of detection then decision then action).
Also, there is nowhere to "route too".
Chances are when the bird hits, it's going to hit in the bypass region of the engines.
This is the region which is partially used for cooling, but also where most of the forward thrust is derived from (in modern airliners, the engines are like a ducted turbo-prop basically)

The second problem is that the problem is not the bird hitting the engine core and messing up the turbine system.
It's not like the bird parts are getting sucked into your compressor stages and causing them to stall out because bird parts aren't combustible.
The problem is that when the bird strikes the main fan (the big thing up front a.k.a the bird blender), it causes an imbalance in this huge mass that is rotating rather quickly.
This then causes problems in the entire engine with bearings starting to get overstressed, tons of heat and wear getting introduced, and the system shutting down due to these problems.
Mind you, this all happens over a fairly short amount of time (like a few minutes).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28294225</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>techess</author>
	<datestamp>1244736780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've heard that shooting blanks will indeed keep storks away.  It is good to know that it works on other birds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've heard that shooting blanks will indeed keep storks away .
It is good to know that it works on other birds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've heard that shooting blanks will indeed keep storks away.
It is good to know that it works on other birds.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287083</id>
	<title>Re:A screen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244637000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At those speeds, the mesh screen would probably be struck, obliterated and sucked into the engine along with the scattered bird. And if the mesh was made sturdy enough, it would likely significantly reduce the efficiency of the engine due to wind resistance. Engineers are not dumb... if this could be done, they would have done it already...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At those speeds , the mesh screen would probably be struck , obliterated and sucked into the engine along with the scattered bird .
And if the mesh was made sturdy enough , it would likely significantly reduce the efficiency of the engine due to wind resistance .
Engineers are not dumb... if this could be done , they would have done it already.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At those speeds, the mesh screen would probably be struck, obliterated and sucked into the engine along with the scattered bird.
And if the mesh was made sturdy enough, it would likely significantly reduce the efficiency of the engine due to wind resistance.
Engineers are not dumb... if this could be done, they would have done it already...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284919</id>
	<title>Cost factor</title>
	<author>HikingStick</author>
	<datestamp>1244626860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Regardless of how much money they can throw at a technical solution, nothing will be as cost effective as paying a bunch of guys in blaze orange vests to shoot at birds near the airports.<br> <br>"What'd ya do today, Jake?"<br> <br>"Shot at pigeons."<br> <br>"Really? I thought the range was only open on weekends."<br> <br>"Not them pigeons.  I got me a job with the airport.  I'm shootin' real pigeons, plus geese and anything else with wings.  I just wish that darn airport were closer to Sesame Street.  I've always hated that Big Bird..."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Regardless of how much money they can throw at a technical solution , nothing will be as cost effective as paying a bunch of guys in blaze orange vests to shoot at birds near the airports .
" What 'd ya do today , Jake ?
" " Shot at pigeons .
" " Really ?
I thought the range was only open on weekends .
" " Not them pigeons .
I got me a job with the airport .
I 'm shootin ' real pigeons , plus geese and anything else with wings .
I just wish that darn airport were closer to Sesame Street .
I 've always hated that Big Bird... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Regardless of how much money they can throw at a technical solution, nothing will be as cost effective as paying a bunch of guys in blaze orange vests to shoot at birds near the airports.
"What'd ya do today, Jake?
" "Shot at pigeons.
" "Really?
I thought the range was only open on weekends.
" "Not them pigeons.
I got me a job with the airport.
I'm shootin' real pigeons, plus geese and anything else with wings.
I just wish that darn airport were closer to Sesame Street.
I've always hated that Big Bird..."</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285075</id>
	<title>Solution for European swallows...</title>
	<author>swanzilla</author>
	<datestamp>1244627400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>...simply attach coconuts to them.  African swallow pose more of a challenge.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...simply attach coconuts to them .
African swallow pose more of a challenge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...simply attach coconuts to them.
African swallow pose more of a challenge.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285179</id>
	<title>Re:Turrets!</title>
	<author>Chabo</author>
	<datestamp>1244627880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Goose is sappin' mah sentry!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Goose is sappin ' mah sentry !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Goose is sappin' mah sentry!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284989</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285559</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244629620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh my friekin' god. On my first pass I thought you wrote "<em>to shoot <strong>blacks</strong><nobr> <wbr></nobr></em>."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh my friekin ' god .
On my first pass I thought you wrote " to shoot blacks .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh my friekin' god.
On my first pass I thought you wrote "to shoot blacks .
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284869</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284829</id>
	<title>Birds are smart</title>
	<author>Groo Wanderer</author>
	<datestamp>1244626560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most people don't realize this, but birds are very smart. They learn very quickly after getting hit by an airplane or being sucked into an engine, they NEVER do it a second time. People are usually not that smart, but birds learn quickly.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -Charlie</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most people do n't realize this , but birds are very smart .
They learn very quickly after getting hit by an airplane or being sucked into an engine , they NEVER do it a second time .
People are usually not that smart , but birds learn quickly .
            -Charlie</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most people don't realize this, but birds are very smart.
They learn very quickly after getting hit by an airplane or being sucked into an engine, they NEVER do it a second time.
People are usually not that smart, but birds learn quickly.
            -Charlie</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286235</id>
	<title>Re:USAF</title>
	<author>bitt3n</author>
	<datestamp>1244632140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Bird strikes have been aviation's bane since there was such a thing as aviation.</p></div><p>I think the birds would claim that such strikes have been aviation's bane for only the past 100 years or so.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bird strikes have been aviation 's bane since there was such a thing as aviation.I think the birds would claim that such strikes have been aviation 's bane for only the past 100 years or so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bird strikes have been aviation's bane since there was such a thing as aviation.I think the birds would claim that such strikes have been aviation's bane for only the past 100 years or so.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284889</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28290207</id>
	<title>Re:Shield</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244750820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The spikes could also move to the rear of the engine for a good roast that can be served to coach class!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The spikes could also move to the rear of the engine for a good roast that can be served to coach class !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The spikes could also move to the rear of the engine for a good roast that can be served to coach class!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285165</id>
	<title>Warning signals</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1244627820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe we should add a warning signal for the birds. Like a really loud noise.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe we should add a warning signal for the birds .
Like a really loud noise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe we should add a warning signal for the birds.
Like a really loud noise.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28288741</id>
	<title>Forget Lasers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244649780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Forget Lasers, 2 shots from the ion cannon will clear the path.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Forget Lasers , 2 shots from the ion cannon will clear the path .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Forget Lasers, 2 shots from the ion cannon will clear the path.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287205</id>
	<title>Navigational Deflectors</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244637900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That'll do it.  Maybe something that projects a strong sonic get-the-hell-out-of-the-way-panic in front of the plane.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 'll do it .
Maybe something that projects a strong sonic get-the-hell-out-of-the-way-panic in front of the plane .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That'll do it.
Maybe something that projects a strong sonic get-the-hell-out-of-the-way-panic in front of the plane.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286733</id>
	<title>Re:Fly Around Them</title>
	<author>mevets</author>
	<datestamp>1244634900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But then the terrorbirds win.   Better to crash land in the sea than make room for those stinkin geese...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But then the terrorbirds win .
Better to crash land in the sea than make room for those stinkin geese.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But then the terrorbirds win.
Better to crash land in the sea than make room for those stinkin geese...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285005</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28290217</id>
	<title>Eyes on jet engines</title>
	<author>twosat</author>
	<datestamp>1244750880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Many jet planes have white off-center dots or spirals painted on the spinner of their engines.  In flight, these give the impression of flickering "eyes" thereby scaring away distant birds.  I remember reading years ago that this trick has helped reduce the bird-strike rate.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Many jet planes have white off-center dots or spirals painted on the spinner of their engines .
In flight , these give the impression of flickering " eyes " thereby scaring away distant birds .
I remember reading years ago that this trick has helped reduce the bird-strike rate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many jet planes have white off-center dots or spirals painted on the spinner of their engines.
In flight, these give the impression of flickering "eyes" thereby scaring away distant birds.
I remember reading years ago that this trick has helped reduce the bird-strike rate.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285185</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>Phasma Felis</author>
	<datestamp>1244627940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Capital idea! We'll just shoot every single bird that takes to the air within a ten-mile radius of every airport in the world. It should only take about 100 million professional snipers on 24/7 duty.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Capital idea !
We 'll just shoot every single bird that takes to the air within a ten-mile radius of every airport in the world .
It should only take about 100 million professional snipers on 24/7 duty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Capital idea!
We'll just shoot every single bird that takes to the air within a ten-mile radius of every airport in the world.
It should only take about 100 million professional snipers on 24/7 duty.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284807</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286241</id>
	<title>Re:Turrets!</title>
	<author>Pinckney</author>
	<datestamp>1244632140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yes, but then you include metal rounds as a class of objects that likely will be SUCKED INTO THE ENGINE. If my options for aspirating something are a bird versus a bullet, I think the plane would fair better ingesting a bird. Not to mention the hazard of turning one falling (suckable) objects into many falling (suckable) objects.</p></div><p>The larger problem would be firing thousands of rounds into inhabited areas around airports. That will kill somebody fairly quickly. The bullet isn't going to be sucked into the engine (it's moving too damn fast), short of some highly un-civilian maneuvers (A F-11 pilot managed to shoot himself down back in 1956!). The brass could be sucked in, but as long as it is ejected behind the mouth of the engine, it will fall clear just fine.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , but then you include metal rounds as a class of objects that likely will be SUCKED INTO THE ENGINE .
If my options for aspirating something are a bird versus a bullet , I think the plane would fair better ingesting a bird .
Not to mention the hazard of turning one falling ( suckable ) objects into many falling ( suckable ) objects.The larger problem would be firing thousands of rounds into inhabited areas around airports .
That will kill somebody fairly quickly .
The bullet is n't going to be sucked into the engine ( it 's moving too damn fast ) , short of some highly un-civilian maneuvers ( A F-11 pilot managed to shoot himself down back in 1956 ! ) .
The brass could be sucked in , but as long as it is ejected behind the mouth of the engine , it will fall clear just fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, but then you include metal rounds as a class of objects that likely will be SUCKED INTO THE ENGINE.
If my options for aspirating something are a bird versus a bullet, I think the plane would fair better ingesting a bird.
Not to mention the hazard of turning one falling (suckable) objects into many falling (suckable) objects.The larger problem would be firing thousands of rounds into inhabited areas around airports.
That will kill somebody fairly quickly.
The bullet isn't going to be sucked into the engine (it's moving too damn fast), short of some highly un-civilian maneuvers (A F-11 pilot managed to shoot himself down back in 1956!).
The brass could be sucked in, but as long as it is ejected behind the mouth of the engine, it will fall clear just fine.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285459</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285871</id>
	<title>Let natural selection do it</title>
	<author>Thaelon</author>
	<datestamp>1244630580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Natural selection will take care of it eventually.</p><p>Just keep murdering birds with airplanes until all the ones that don't get out of the way of planes have been removed from the gene pool off.</p><p>Not a real quick fix, you understand, but probably incredibly effective!</p><p>And develop planes that are better suited to simply take a duck in the face at 150 knots.  If as a result, the bird strike does no serious damage to the plane, then you can let my previous proposal work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Natural selection will take care of it eventually.Just keep murdering birds with airplanes until all the ones that do n't get out of the way of planes have been removed from the gene pool off.Not a real quick fix , you understand , but probably incredibly effective ! And develop planes that are better suited to simply take a duck in the face at 150 knots .
If as a result , the bird strike does no serious damage to the plane , then you can let my previous proposal work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Natural selection will take care of it eventually.Just keep murdering birds with airplanes until all the ones that don't get out of the way of planes have been removed from the gene pool off.Not a real quick fix, you understand, but probably incredibly effective!And develop planes that are better suited to simply take a duck in the face at 150 knots.
If as a result, the bird strike does no serious damage to the plane, then you can let my previous proposal work.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286347</id>
	<title>Re:I know one person that can do it</title>
	<author>Cheney</author>
	<datestamp>1244632740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sir, that's offensive.  I <i>obviously</i> wasn't shooting at the damn birds.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sir , that 's offensive .
I obviously was n't shooting at the damn birds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sir, that's offensive.
I obviously wasn't shooting at the damn birds.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284811</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285369</id>
	<title>A screen</title>
	<author>blockhouse</author>
	<datestamp>1244628840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why can't aircraft engine manufacturers retrofit engines with a sturdy 2 inch mesh screen over the air intakes of their engines?  That would keep birds from being sucked into the intake manifolds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ca n't aircraft engine manufacturers retrofit engines with a sturdy 2 inch mesh screen over the air intakes of their engines ?
That would keep birds from being sucked into the intake manifolds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why can't aircraft engine manufacturers retrofit engines with a sturdy 2 inch mesh screen over the air intakes of their engines?
That would keep birds from being sucked into the intake manifolds.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285265</id>
	<title>Re:Turrets!</title>
	<author>Krneki</author>
	<datestamp>1244628300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even better, offer remote control to passengers for a premium price.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even better , offer remote control to passengers for a premium price .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even better, offer remote control to passengers for a premium price.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284989</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287121</id>
	<title>Re:Inevitable, make sturdier planes...</title>
	<author>SimonInOz</author>
	<datestamp>1244637240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read that as "capable of hitting a Canadian moose at 400 mph..." and I thought - that thing'll never fly</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read that as " capable of hitting a Canadian moose at 400 mph... " and I thought - that thing 'll never fly</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read that as "capable of hitting a Canadian moose at 400 mph..." and I thought - that thing'll never fly</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285139</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286071</id>
	<title>low tech solutions work, too</title>
	<author>bobby\_tables</author>
	<datestamp>1244631300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A few airports around the world are using Border Collies to chase birds off:
<br>
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=border+collie\%2C+airport" title="google.com" rel="nofollow"> Google Search</a> [google.com]
<br>
Cost wise, a piece of equipment that lasts forever obviously wins, but 1-2 dogs + 1 handler + food and water would be pretty cheep for quite some time.
<br>
Some anecdotal reports suggest a 92+\% decrease in bird strikes.

And TFA even mentions trained dogs...</htmltext>
<tokenext>A few airports around the world are using Border Collies to chase birds off : Google Search [ google.com ] Cost wise , a piece of equipment that lasts forever obviously wins , but 1-2 dogs + 1 handler + food and water would be pretty cheep for quite some time .
Some anecdotal reports suggest a 92 + \ % decrease in bird strikes .
And TFA even mentions trained dogs.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A few airports around the world are using Border Collies to chase birds off:

 Google Search [google.com]

Cost wise, a piece of equipment that lasts forever obviously wins, but 1-2 dogs + 1 handler + food and water would be pretty cheep for quite some time.
Some anecdotal reports suggest a 92+\% decrease in bird strikes.
And TFA even mentions trained dogs...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285951</id>
	<title>Re:Fly Around Them</title>
	<author>Phasma Felis</author>
	<datestamp>1244630880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, it turns out meat doesn't show up on radar very well.</p><p>Clearly we need robot birds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it turns out meat does n't show up on radar very well.Clearly we need robot birds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it turns out meat doesn't show up on radar very well.Clearly we need robot birds.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285005</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28293701</id>
	<title>Businesses should respect a "status quo ante"</title>
	<author>Klistvud</author>
	<datestamp>1244734800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Businesses should be required by law to exert a "zero-impact" on the environment (and on the community). Meaning: if their business method produces any changes on the environment, such as polluting the air, slowing down automotive traffic, making excessive noise, stinking up neighborhoods, wearing out roads, or killing geese, the law should require them to revert the environment and the community to their previous state (status quo ante). As it is, these "hidden" expenses are now either paid by the society at large, generally through taxes (such as refurbishing roads etc.) or not taken care of at all, resulting in a progressive deterioration of our planet and our society (such as, say, for the killed geese). If businesses were required to actually leave the environment exactly as it was before - or, alternatively, to pay public services to do that for them, such as paying for killed geese to be replaced by new animals brought in from elsewhere - their actual "profits" would quickly dwindle, forcing many businesses to shut down. There are presently MANY businesses which are only able to survive because they make society at large cover the "hidden" damages they produce. If society was to withhold such payments and businesses were forced to pay them themselves, they would instantly go out of business. Apparently, civil aviation is one of them, but I strongly suspect the car industry, the chemical industry, nuclear plants and many many other branches would have to go as well. Personally, I would not shed one single tear for them. I'd prefer it that way than having to pay THEIR profits from MY pocket as I'm forced to do now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Businesses should be required by law to exert a " zero-impact " on the environment ( and on the community ) .
Meaning : if their business method produces any changes on the environment , such as polluting the air , slowing down automotive traffic , making excessive noise , stinking up neighborhoods , wearing out roads , or killing geese , the law should require them to revert the environment and the community to their previous state ( status quo ante ) .
As it is , these " hidden " expenses are now either paid by the society at large , generally through taxes ( such as refurbishing roads etc .
) or not taken care of at all , resulting in a progressive deterioration of our planet and our society ( such as , say , for the killed geese ) .
If businesses were required to actually leave the environment exactly as it was before - or , alternatively , to pay public services to do that for them , such as paying for killed geese to be replaced by new animals brought in from elsewhere - their actual " profits " would quickly dwindle , forcing many businesses to shut down .
There are presently MANY businesses which are only able to survive because they make society at large cover the " hidden " damages they produce .
If society was to withhold such payments and businesses were forced to pay them themselves , they would instantly go out of business .
Apparently , civil aviation is one of them , but I strongly suspect the car industry , the chemical industry , nuclear plants and many many other branches would have to go as well .
Personally , I would not shed one single tear for them .
I 'd prefer it that way than having to pay THEIR profits from MY pocket as I 'm forced to do now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Businesses should be required by law to exert a "zero-impact" on the environment (and on the community).
Meaning: if their business method produces any changes on the environment, such as polluting the air, slowing down automotive traffic, making excessive noise, stinking up neighborhoods, wearing out roads, or killing geese, the law should require them to revert the environment and the community to their previous state (status quo ante).
As it is, these "hidden" expenses are now either paid by the society at large, generally through taxes (such as refurbishing roads etc.
) or not taken care of at all, resulting in a progressive deterioration of our planet and our society (such as, say, for the killed geese).
If businesses were required to actually leave the environment exactly as it was before - or, alternatively, to pay public services to do that for them, such as paying for killed geese to be replaced by new animals brought in from elsewhere - their actual "profits" would quickly dwindle, forcing many businesses to shut down.
There are presently MANY businesses which are only able to survive because they make society at large cover the "hidden" damages they produce.
If society was to withhold such payments and businesses were forced to pay them themselves, they would instantly go out of business.
Apparently, civil aviation is one of them, but I strongly suspect the car industry, the chemical industry, nuclear plants and many many other branches would have to go as well.
Personally, I would not shed one single tear for them.
I'd prefer it that way than having to pay THEIR profits from MY pocket as I'm forced to do now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285721</id>
	<title>Re:A screen</title>
	<author>joshier</author>
	<datestamp>1244630160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's what I thought, however I think the discussion goes further than just preventing collisions on engines, rather the wings, etc.<br> <br>

I presumed that there was no mesh in front of the engines purely because the high air resistance it would cause would be detrimental to the MPG's the aircraft would get. Whether this would outweigh the negatives is another matter indeed, but I'd like it discussed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what I thought , however I think the discussion goes further than just preventing collisions on engines , rather the wings , etc .
I presumed that there was no mesh in front of the engines purely because the high air resistance it would cause would be detrimental to the MPG 's the aircraft would get .
Whether this would outweigh the negatives is another matter indeed , but I 'd like it discussed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's what I thought, however I think the discussion goes further than just preventing collisions on engines, rather the wings, etc.
I presumed that there was no mesh in front of the engines purely because the high air resistance it would cause would be detrimental to the MPG's the aircraft would get.
Whether this would outweigh the negatives is another matter indeed, but I'd like it discussed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285369</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28288149</id>
	<title>Re:Inevitable, make sturdier planes...</title>
	<author>virgil\_disgr4ce</author>
	<datestamp>1244644800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The time is well nigh for a functioning deflector shield system!</htmltext>
<tokenext>The time is well nigh for a functioning deflector shield system !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The time is well nigh for a functioning deflector shield system!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285139</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28291127</id>
	<title>That's good, but here is a better idea</title>
	<author>roman\_mir</author>
	<datestamp>1244721180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How about two giant aerodynamic scarecrows on each wing?</p></div><p> - not bad. Or we could have Natali Portman pour hot grits down my pants.</p><p>Well, it's an idea.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about two giant aerodynamic scarecrows on each wing ?
- not bad .
Or we could have Natali Portman pour hot grits down my pants.Well , it 's an idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about two giant aerodynamic scarecrows on each wing?
- not bad.
Or we could have Natali Portman pour hot grits down my pants.Well, it's an idea.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285081</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286941</id>
	<title>Re:Birds are smart</title>
	<author>MadnessASAP</author>
	<datestamp>1244636160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How many people do you know of that get struck by a plane/sucked into an engine do it a second time?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How many people do you know of that get struck by a plane/sucked into an engine do it a second time ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many people do you know of that get struck by a plane/sucked into an engine do it a second time?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284829</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285575</id>
	<title>Re:high powered water jets</title>
	<author>K. S. Kyosuke</author>
	<datestamp>1244629680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"Seriously some people with a lot of money need to get their shit together."</p></div></blockquote><p>

I am sure that Los Angeles has already had a sewage system implemented quite a long time ago.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Seriously some people with a lot of money need to get their shit together .
" I am sure that Los Angeles has already had a sewage system implemented quite a long time ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Seriously some people with a lot of money need to get their shit together.
"

I am sure that Los Angeles has already had a sewage system implemented quite a long time ago.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285131</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285561</id>
	<title>Re:Airbus</title>
	<author>stinkytoe</author>
	<datestamp>1244629620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>As right as you may be on all points reguarding THIS incident, there are many many more documented cases of birds destroying engines, windshields, air speed sensors (which you just CAN'T fly without in modern aircraft), etc... so bashing airbus' engineering principles is going to do nothing to help this problem.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As right as you may be on all points reguarding THIS incident , there are many many more documented cases of birds destroying engines , windshields , air speed sensors ( which you just CA N'T fly without in modern aircraft ) , etc... so bashing airbus ' engineering principles is going to do nothing to help this problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As right as you may be on all points reguarding THIS incident, there are many many more documented cases of birds destroying engines, windshields, air speed sensors (which you just CAN'T fly without in modern aircraft), etc... so bashing airbus' engineering principles is going to do nothing to help this problem.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285073</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285139</id>
	<title>Inevitable, make sturdier planes...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244627700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The planes velocity is too fast to move birds out of the flight path of planes.  What needs to happen is make the planes capable of hitting a Canadian goose at 400 mph...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The planes velocity is too fast to move birds out of the flight path of planes .
What needs to happen is make the planes capable of hitting a Canadian goose at 400 mph.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The planes velocity is too fast to move birds out of the flight path of planes.
What needs to happen is make the planes capable of hitting a Canadian goose at 400 mph...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28314481</id>
	<title>Re:USAF</title>
	<author>jafac</author>
	<datestamp>1244802900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I imagine that aviation has been the bane of birds since there's been such a thing as aviation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I imagine that aviation has been the bane of birds since there 's been such a thing as aviation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I imagine that aviation has been the bane of birds since there's been such a thing as aviation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284889</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28289005</id>
	<title>Easily Solved</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244652120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The most logical solution to this problematic scenario would be to equip all prone aircraft with extra backup engines. The airline that completes this transition first can announce that they have set a new standard in aerodynamic safety, if it is done correctly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The most logical solution to this problematic scenario would be to equip all prone aircraft with extra backup engines .
The airline that completes this transition first can announce that they have set a new standard in aerodynamic safety , if it is done correctly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The most logical solution to this problematic scenario would be to equip all prone aircraft with extra backup engines.
The airline that completes this transition first can announce that they have set a new standard in aerodynamic safety, if it is done correctly.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285361</id>
	<title>As usual, SciFi</title>
	<author>clyde\_cadiddlehopper</author>
	<datestamp>1244628780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><nobr> <wbr></nobr>... is way ahead on <a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Deflector\_shield" title="wikia.com" rel="nofollow">this.</a> [wikia.com]   (Hmm. Didn't know there was a Wookieepedia.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>... is way ahead on this .
[ wikia.com ] ( Hmm .
Did n't know there was a Wookieepedia .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... is way ahead on this.
[wikia.com]   (Hmm.
Didn't know there was a Wookieepedia.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287393</id>
	<title>Star Trek has the answer!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244639400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Shields up!</p><p>You never saw any birds get sucked into starship engines, did you?</p><p>Of course it won't work if genetically modified intellectually and physically superior birds have hijacked a friendly ship...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Shields up ! You never saw any birds get sucked into starship engines , did you ? Of course it wo n't work if genetically modified intellectually and physically superior birds have hijacked a friendly ship.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shields up!You never saw any birds get sucked into starship engines, did you?Of course it won't work if genetically modified intellectually and physically superior birds have hijacked a friendly ship...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286229</id>
	<title>Re:Airbus</title>
	<author>NetNinja</author>
	<datestamp>1244632080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't want to point out an observation but I will keep note of each type of manufactures aircraft that do go down due to some sort of mechanical, FOD or act of God. At the end of the year let's tally the losses. Sounds morbid I know but the FFA keeps track of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't want to point out an observation but I will keep note of each type of manufactures aircraft that do go down due to some sort of mechanical , FOD or act of God .
At the end of the year let 's tally the losses .
Sounds morbid I know but the FFA keeps track of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't want to point out an observation but I will keep note of each type of manufactures aircraft that do go down due to some sort of mechanical, FOD or act of God.
At the end of the year let's tally the losses.
Sounds morbid I know but the FFA keeps track of it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285237</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284853</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244626620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>By 'them', do you mean the planes or the birds?</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -Charlie</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By 'them ' , do you mean the planes or the birds ?
              -Charlie</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By 'them', do you mean the planes or the birds?
              -Charlie</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284807</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286191</id>
	<title>Re:A screen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244631840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why can't aircraft engine manufacturers retrofit engines with a sturdy 2 inch mesh screen over the air intakes of their engines?  That would keep birds from being sucked into the intake manifolds.</p></div><p>Then you have Bird Julienne hitting the engine, which is just as bad.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ca n't aircraft engine manufacturers retrofit engines with a sturdy 2 inch mesh screen over the air intakes of their engines ?
That would keep birds from being sucked into the intake manifolds.Then you have Bird Julienne hitting the engine , which is just as bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why can't aircraft engine manufacturers retrofit engines with a sturdy 2 inch mesh screen over the air intakes of their engines?
That would keep birds from being sucked into the intake manifolds.Then you have Bird Julienne hitting the engine, which is just as bad.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285369</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285459</id>
	<title>Re:Turrets!</title>
	<author>HaloZero</author>
	<datestamp>1244629140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, but then you include metal rounds as a class of objects that likely will be SUCKED INTO THE ENGINE. If my options for aspirating something are a bird versus a bullet, I think the plane would fair better ingesting a bird. Not to mention the hazard of turning one falling (suckable) objects into many falling (suckable) objects.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , but then you include metal rounds as a class of objects that likely will be SUCKED INTO THE ENGINE .
If my options for aspirating something are a bird versus a bullet , I think the plane would fair better ingesting a bird .
Not to mention the hazard of turning one falling ( suckable ) objects into many falling ( suckable ) objects .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, but then you include metal rounds as a class of objects that likely will be SUCKED INTO THE ENGINE.
If my options for aspirating something are a bird versus a bullet, I think the plane would fair better ingesting a bird.
Not to mention the hazard of turning one falling (suckable) objects into many falling (suckable) objects.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284989</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286681</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>samexner</author>
	<datestamp>1244634600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Neither!
The pilot. Replace him with a better one that can avoid flocks of birds.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Neither !
The pilot .
Replace him with a better one that can avoid flocks of birds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Neither!
The pilot.
Replace him with a better one that can avoid flocks of birds.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284853</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285131</id>
	<title>high powered water jets</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244627640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>or fans that blow them out of the way.<br>or a barrier around the engine inflow.</p><p>I bet there is a solution, just no one gives a fuck to implement it until a few more planes go down, this time in the city.</p><p>Seriously some people with a lot of money need to get their shit together.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>or fans that blow them out of the way.or a barrier around the engine inflow.I bet there is a solution , just no one gives a fuck to implement it until a few more planes go down , this time in the city.Seriously some people with a lot of money need to get their shit together .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or fans that blow them out of the way.or a barrier around the engine inflow.I bet there is a solution, just no one gives a fuck to implement it until a few more planes go down, this time in the city.Seriously some people with a lot of money need to get their shit together.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285259</id>
	<title>"Bird Strikes"</title>
	<author>dethndrek</author>
	<datestamp>1244628240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Bird Strike" sounds like a terrorist action and as such, all the FAA has to do is declare a "War on Birds"  Based on similar actions by other governmental bodies in similar situations, I believe it will be only a matter of years before the birds give up and lay down their wings.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Bird Strike " sounds like a terrorist action and as such , all the FAA has to do is declare a " War on Birds " Based on similar actions by other governmental bodies in similar situations , I believe it will be only a matter of years before the birds give up and lay down their wings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Bird Strike" sounds like a terrorist action and as such, all the FAA has to do is declare a "War on Birds"  Based on similar actions by other governmental bodies in similar situations, I believe it will be only a matter of years before the birds give up and lay down their wings.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285717</id>
	<title>Re:Inevitable, make sturdier planes...</title>
	<author>derGoldstein</author>
	<datestamp>1244630160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nah... Just mount some <a href="http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;q=fan+grill&amp;btnG=Search+Images&amp;gbv=2&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=" title="google.com">fan grills</a> [google.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nah... Just mount some fan grills [ google.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nah... Just mount some fan grills [google.com].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285139</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286009</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>hurfy</author>
	<datestamp>1244631060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That might be quicker to implement than my idea of developing flying cats. Especially if i have to have the flying dogs already created to get the flying cats out of the airspace.....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That might be quicker to implement than my idea of developing flying cats .
Especially if i have to have the flying dogs already created to get the flying cats out of the airspace.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That might be quicker to implement than my idea of developing flying cats.
Especially if i have to have the flying dogs already created to get the flying cats out of the airspace.....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285119</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28289429</id>
	<title>Bird Radar</title>
	<author>JumpSocial</author>
	<datestamp>1244656560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why can't the jets have an on-board radar that detects the birds when they ahead?

It could alert pilots and perhaps even cause a computer to evade.

Especially if the radar/computer system can compute bird trajectories.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ca n't the jets have an on-board radar that detects the birds when they ahead ?
It could alert pilots and perhaps even cause a computer to evade .
Especially if the radar/computer system can compute bird trajectories .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why can't the jets have an on-board radar that detects the birds when they ahead?
It could alert pilots and perhaps even cause a computer to evade.
Especially if the radar/computer system can compute bird trajectories.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28288745</id>
	<title>Laser net</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244649840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Giant laser nets in front of the planes.</p><p>Of course, by then the plans would need to be nuclear powered but hey.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Giant laser nets in front of the planes.Of course , by then the plans would need to be nuclear powered but hey .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Giant laser nets in front of the planes.Of course, by then the plans would need to be nuclear powered but hey.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285005</id>
	<title>Fly Around Them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244627100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are flocks too small to pick up on the plane's radar? If not, fly around them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are flocks too small to pick up on the plane 's radar ?
If not , fly around them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are flocks too small to pick up on the plane's radar?
If not, fly around them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286179</id>
	<title>Re:Airbus</title>
	<author>icebike</author>
	<datestamp>1244631780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sully's engines were not turning when it hit the water.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sully 's engines were not turning when it hit the water .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sully's engines were not turning when it hit the water.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285073</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286509</id>
	<title>Life and Risk</title>
	<author>yoshi\_mon</author>
	<datestamp>1244633700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What strikes me most about a subject like this is what I see as a mass denial by many:  life is inherently risky.</p><p>At some point there may be a method to keep birds away from aircraft.  Or aircraft might operate such a different way that birds are not a threat to them.  But that is not the point.  Rather so many people seem to think that life should be totally risk free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What strikes me most about a subject like this is what I see as a mass denial by many : life is inherently risky.At some point there may be a method to keep birds away from aircraft .
Or aircraft might operate such a different way that birds are not a threat to them .
But that is not the point .
Rather so many people seem to think that life should be totally risk free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What strikes me most about a subject like this is what I see as a mass denial by many:  life is inherently risky.At some point there may be a method to keep birds away from aircraft.
Or aircraft might operate such a different way that birds are not a threat to them.
But that is not the point.
Rather so many people seem to think that life should be totally risk free.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28367699</id>
	<title>Re:Hopefully That Control System Won't Brunning Li</title>
	<author>Sinesurfer</author>
	<datestamp>1245241200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It doesn't matter if you're talking about aircraft control systems or the desktop (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1264259&amp;cid=28283575&amp;art\_pos=5) you don't suddenly become right just because you post the same comment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't matter if you 're talking about aircraft control systems or the desktop ( http : //slashdot.org/comments.pl ? sid = 1264259&amp;cid = 28283575&amp;art \ _pos = 5 ) you do n't suddenly become right just because you post the same comment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't matter if you're talking about aircraft control systems or the desktop (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1264259&amp;cid=28283575&amp;art\_pos=5) you don't suddenly become right just because you post the same comment.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284855</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28288517</id>
	<title>Here it comes..bzzt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244647620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Use some <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/13/abl\_two\_blast\_ambition/" title="theregister.co.uk" rel="nofollow">frikkin' lasers...</a> [theregister.co.uk]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Use some frikkin ' lasers... [ theregister.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use some frikkin' lasers... [theregister.co.uk]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285015</id>
	<title>I have an idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244627160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cats... just move all the stray cats to the airport.  I'm sure there are plenty to go around.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cats... just move all the stray cats to the airport .
I 'm sure there are plenty to go around .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cats... just move all the stray cats to the airport.
I'm sure there are plenty to go around.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284915</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1244626800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Especially since, from what I hear, areas around many airports have been essentially turned into wetlands.</p><p>No wonder flocks of birds like the place...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Especially since , from what I hear , areas around many airports have been essentially turned into wetlands.No wonder flocks of birds like the place.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Especially since, from what I hear, areas around many airports have been essentially turned into wetlands.No wonder flocks of birds like the place...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284807</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286087</id>
	<title>Re:Airbus</title>
	<author>MooUK</author>
	<datestamp>1244631360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So explain the recent Ryanair 737 that had bird-strike-induced flameouts the other month. That was already on landing approach, and whilst it landed moreorless on the runway, one MLG collapsed as it came in very hard. The airframe has now been written off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So explain the recent Ryanair 737 that had bird-strike-induced flameouts the other month .
That was already on landing approach , and whilst it landed moreorless on the runway , one MLG collapsed as it came in very hard .
The airframe has now been written off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So explain the recent Ryanair 737 that had bird-strike-induced flameouts the other month.
That was already on landing approach, and whilst it landed moreorless on the runway, one MLG collapsed as it came in very hard.
The airframe has now been written off.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285073</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287781</id>
	<title>Re:A screen</title>
	<author>ryl000</author>
	<datestamp>1244642100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd imagine that the difficulties in designing a shield/screen to continually withstand the forces wanting to pull it into the engine more than offset any advantage it'd provide in screening any foreign objects out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd imagine that the difficulties in designing a shield/screen to continually withstand the forces wanting to pull it into the engine more than offset any advantage it 'd provide in screening any foreign objects out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd imagine that the difficulties in designing a shield/screen to continually withstand the forces wanting to pull it into the engine more than offset any advantage it'd provide in screening any foreign objects out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285369</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285407</id>
	<title>Re:A screen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244628960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Why can't aircraft engine manufacturers retrofit engines with a sturdy 2 inch mesh screen over the air intakes of their engines?</i> <br> <br>You just invented a cheese grater for birds.<br>Now, instead of a ten pound bird going into the intake, you have ten pounds of bird parts going into the engine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ca n't aircraft engine manufacturers retrofit engines with a sturdy 2 inch mesh screen over the air intakes of their engines ?
You just invented a cheese grater for birds.Now , instead of a ten pound bird going into the intake , you have ten pounds of bird parts going into the engine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why can't aircraft engine manufacturers retrofit engines with a sturdy 2 inch mesh screen over the air intakes of their engines?
You just invented a cheese grater for birds.Now, instead of a ten pound bird going into the intake, you have ten pounds of bird parts going into the engine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285369</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284811</id>
	<title>I know one person that can do it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244626500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dick Cheney will shoot them all in the face.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dick Cheney will shoot them all in the face .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dick Cheney will shoot them all in the face.
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286933</id>
	<title>Re:Good luck with that</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1244636160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, they ahve wings, for starters.</p><p>I'm not sure what metric you are using to determine 'better'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , they ahve wings , for starters.I 'm not sure what metric you are using to determine 'better' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, they ahve wings, for starters.I'm not sure what metric you are using to determine 'better'.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285059</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284839</id>
	<title>It's simple</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244626620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about cow catchers?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about cow catchers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about cow catchers?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28294761</id>
	<title>Re:Inevitable, make sturdier planes...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244738760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The planes velocity is too fast to move birds out of the flight path of planes.  What needs to happen is make the planes capable of hitting a Canadian goose at 400 mph...</p></div><p>Insightful? I thought we already made planes perfectly capable of hitting a Canadian goose at 400 mph. It just so happens that the planes don't like it that much!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The planes velocity is too fast to move birds out of the flight path of planes .
What needs to happen is make the planes capable of hitting a Canadian goose at 400 mph...Insightful ?
I thought we already made planes perfectly capable of hitting a Canadian goose at 400 mph .
It just so happens that the planes do n't like it that much !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The planes velocity is too fast to move birds out of the flight path of planes.
What needs to happen is make the planes capable of hitting a Canadian goose at 400 mph...Insightful?
I thought we already made planes perfectly capable of hitting a Canadian goose at 400 mph.
It just so happens that the planes don't like it that much!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285139</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28306405</id>
	<title>Re:Shield</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244812380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>/get sucked into the engine and create a far more dangerous situation than a bird getting sucked in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>/get sucked into the engine and create a far more dangerous situation than a bird getting sucked in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>/get sucked into the engine and create a far more dangerous situation than a bird getting sucked in.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285095</id>
	<title>Apparently ..</title>
	<author>SlashDev</author>
	<datestamp>1244627520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... these are Kamikaze birds; maybe we should try education?</htmltext>
<tokenext>... these are Kamikaze birds ; maybe we should try education ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... these are Kamikaze birds; maybe we should try education?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284825</id>
	<title>Obviously</title>
	<author>Random2</author>
	<datestamp>1244626560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>we need to use flamethrowers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>we need to use flamethrowers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>we need to use flamethrowers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286665</id>
	<title>Re:I know one person that can do it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244634540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You might want to re-think this one, because he will most likely aim at the birds, but somehow shoot the pilot in the face.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:o)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You might want to re-think this one , because he will most likely aim at the birds , but somehow shoot the pilot in the face .
: o )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You might want to re-think this one, because he will most likely aim at the birds, but somehow shoot the pilot in the face.
:o)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284811</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28289491</id>
	<title>one word...</title>
	<author>drew</author>
	<datestamp>1244657100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lasers!</p><p>(duh...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lasers ! ( duh.. .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lasers!(duh...
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285579</id>
	<title>Re:A screen</title>
	<author>HaloZero</author>
	<datestamp>1244629680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Psh. Your puny mesh screen isn't going to stop the bird; it just means his death-by-<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General\_Electric\_CF6" title="wikipedia.org">CF6</a> [wikipedia.org] sentence is commuted, only instead to being <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0584463/quotes#qt0325651" title="imdb.com">put through a fine mesh screen</a> [imdb.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Psh .
Your puny mesh screen is n't going to stop the bird ; it just means his death-by-CF6 [ wikipedia.org ] sentence is commuted , only instead to being put through a fine mesh screen [ imdb.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Psh.
Your puny mesh screen isn't going to stop the bird; it just means his death-by-CF6 [wikipedia.org] sentence is commuted, only instead to being put through a fine mesh screen [imdb.com].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285369</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284925</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>Ethanol-fueled</author>
	<datestamp>1244626860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One existing solution is having a mechanical dummy gun fire blank rounds at certain intervals. Looks like we'll have to <a href="http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/06/10/132236" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">wait</a> [slashdot.org] for the real thing...unless you're saying that all of those unemployed Elmer Fudds in the south could be put to better use<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>One existing solution is having a mechanical dummy gun fire blank rounds at certain intervals .
Looks like we 'll have to wait [ slashdot.org ] for the real thing...unless you 're saying that all of those unemployed Elmer Fudds in the south could be put to better use ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One existing solution is having a mechanical dummy gun fire blank rounds at certain intervals.
Looks like we'll have to wait [slashdot.org] for the real thing...unless you're saying that all of those unemployed Elmer Fudds in the south could be put to better use ;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284807</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286743</id>
	<title>NASA, True Story</title>
	<author>Das Auge</author>
	<datestamp>1244634960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Okay, I'm a little shoddy on the details (this story was told to me years ago), but the gist of it stands.<br>
<br>
An airline company wanted to improve the construction of their cockpits to withstand hitting a geese.  So they went to NASA and essentially asked them to build a "bird gun".  Simply put, it was a gun to fire a birds carcass (chicken) at the cockpit at speeds of a few hundred miles an hour.<br>
<br>
So NASA built it for them and sent it off.<br>
<br>
A few days later, NASA gets a call from the airline informing them that the gun was way more powerful than they'd asked for.   The chicken went through the windshield, the pilots chair, and embedded itself into the bulkhead.<br>
<br>
After a little back and forth, NASA figured out the problem.  They told them, "There is no such thing as <i>frozen</i> flying birds.  Next time, thaw the chicken first."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Okay , I 'm a little shoddy on the details ( this story was told to me years ago ) , but the gist of it stands .
An airline company wanted to improve the construction of their cockpits to withstand hitting a geese .
So they went to NASA and essentially asked them to build a " bird gun " .
Simply put , it was a gun to fire a birds carcass ( chicken ) at the cockpit at speeds of a few hundred miles an hour .
So NASA built it for them and sent it off .
A few days later , NASA gets a call from the airline informing them that the gun was way more powerful than they 'd asked for .
The chicken went through the windshield , the pilots chair , and embedded itself into the bulkhead .
After a little back and forth , NASA figured out the problem .
They told them , " There is no such thing as frozen flying birds .
Next time , thaw the chicken first .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Okay, I'm a little shoddy on the details (this story was told to me years ago), but the gist of it stands.
An airline company wanted to improve the construction of their cockpits to withstand hitting a geese.
So they went to NASA and essentially asked them to build a "bird gun".
Simply put, it was a gun to fire a birds carcass (chicken) at the cockpit at speeds of a few hundred miles an hour.
So NASA built it for them and sent it off.
A few days later, NASA gets a call from the airline informing them that the gun was way more powerful than they'd asked for.
The chicken went through the windshield, the pilots chair, and embedded itself into the bulkhead.
After a little back and forth, NASA figured out the problem.
They told them, "There is no such thing as frozen flying birds.
Next time, thaw the chicken first.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285139</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284849</id>
	<title>Props.</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1244626620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just go back to Prop driven aircraft. The props will take care of the.<br>Actually I fear that sort of just killing every bird that refuses to leave the area around the airport that there isn't a total solution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just go back to Prop driven aircraft .
The props will take care of the.Actually I fear that sort of just killing every bird that refuses to leave the area around the airport that there is n't a total solution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just go back to Prop driven aircraft.
The props will take care of the.Actually I fear that sort of just killing every bird that refuses to leave the area around the airport that there isn't a total solution.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28289291</id>
	<title>Re:Life and Risk</title>
	<author>JNSL</author>
	<datestamp>1244655180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's ridiculous. Why should people bend over to the way things are? The fact that people do anything to secure themselves and others is implicit recognition of risk. They key is not maximizing safety, but optimizing it. After all, we don't walk around with boomboxes on our shoulders to prevent people from running into us. It would help, but is not optimal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's ridiculous .
Why should people bend over to the way things are ?
The fact that people do anything to secure themselves and others is implicit recognition of risk .
They key is not maximizing safety , but optimizing it .
After all , we do n't walk around with boomboxes on our shoulders to prevent people from running into us .
It would help , but is not optimal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's ridiculous.
Why should people bend over to the way things are?
The fact that people do anything to secure themselves and others is implicit recognition of risk.
They key is not maximizing safety, but optimizing it.
After all, we don't walk around with boomboxes on our shoulders to prevent people from running into us.
It would help, but is not optimal.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286509</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285049</id>
	<title>Re:Hopefully That Control System Won't Brunning Li</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244627280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Huh.  Parent is straddling the line between -1 troll and +1 funny.</p><p>Not very funny, but not a very good troll, either.  Weird.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Huh .
Parent is straddling the line between -1 troll and + 1 funny.Not very funny , but not a very good troll , either .
Weird .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Huh.
Parent is straddling the line between -1 troll and +1 funny.Not very funny, but not a very good troll, either.
Weird.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284855</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285113</id>
	<title>Falcons</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244627580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here in Brazil, they are training falcons to scare birds away from airport zones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here in Brazil , they are training falcons to scare birds away from airport zones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here in Brazil, they are training falcons to scare birds away from airport zones.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284869</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>nomorecwrd</author>
	<datestamp>1244626680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually is common practice in many airports to shoot blanks, to scare birds away.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually is common practice in many airports to shoot blanks , to scare birds away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually is common practice in many airports to shoot blanks, to scare birds away.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284807</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284931</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244626860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm.. season open for uncle Jimbo  ?</p><p>see: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimbo\_Kern" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimbo\_Kern</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm.. season open for uncle Jimbo ? see : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimbo \ _Kern [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm.. season open for uncle Jimbo  ?see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimbo\_Kern [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284807</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285059</id>
	<title>Good luck with that</title>
	<author>jayhawk88</author>
	<datestamp>1244627340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The birds have been flying for longer than humans have been on this Earth, and they're better at it than we'll ever be. You might just as well start work on the matter transporters.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The birds have been flying for longer than humans have been on this Earth , and they 're better at it than we 'll ever be .
You might just as well start work on the matter transporters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The birds have been flying for longer than humans have been on this Earth, and they're better at it than we'll ever be.
You might just as well start work on the matter transporters.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285607</id>
	<title>Re:Warning signals</title>
	<author>Eudial</author>
	<datestamp>1244629740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Problem is that birds learn. It's easy to make them run away from something, but if nothing bad happens to them, they'll eventually stop running and ignore it.</p><p>Also, jet engines already make a pretty loud and conspicuous noise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Problem is that birds learn .
It 's easy to make them run away from something , but if nothing bad happens to them , they 'll eventually stop running and ignore it.Also , jet engines already make a pretty loud and conspicuous noise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Problem is that birds learn.
It's easy to make them run away from something, but if nothing bad happens to them, they'll eventually stop running and ignore it.Also, jet engines already make a pretty loud and conspicuous noise.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285165</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286299</id>
	<title>Cats</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244632440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Birds hate cats, so simply mount a few dozen cats outside the plane near the engines. Don't forget to mount the cats with their feet pointed down, or the plane will flip when you try to land.</p><p>Chaff rounds packed with bird seed could also work, but the cats should be more cost effective.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Birds hate cats , so simply mount a few dozen cats outside the plane near the engines .
Do n't forget to mount the cats with their feet pointed down , or the plane will flip when you try to land.Chaff rounds packed with bird seed could also work , but the cats should be more cost effective .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Birds hate cats, so simply mount a few dozen cats outside the plane near the engines.
Don't forget to mount the cats with their feet pointed down, or the plane will flip when you try to land.Chaff rounds packed with bird seed could also work, but the cats should be more cost effective.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286459</id>
	<title>They probably were more than 8 pound geese</title>
	<author>smellsofbikes</author>
	<datestamp>1244633400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Canada geese are big.  <a href="http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/birds/canada-goose.html" title="nationalgeographic.com">They start at 6 1/2 pounds and go up to just under 20 pounds</a> [nationalgeographic.com].  And not that this matters too much with a jet, but they're also fairly fast fliers: I've been passed by Canada Geese while taking off in a Cessna, which puts them in the 60 mph range.</p><p>Building a vehicle that can handle a 450 mph collision with a 15-20 pound object is intrinsically difficult.  Military tanks can do it, but their acceleration over about 60mph is terrible.  I don't know of any other vehicles that could handle this sort of impact without getting very bent and broken.</p><p>And you can't just use elevation, either: I've read pilot reports of birds seen at 37,000 feet above ground level.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Canada geese are big .
They start at 6 1/2 pounds and go up to just under 20 pounds [ nationalgeographic.com ] .
And not that this matters too much with a jet , but they 're also fairly fast fliers : I 've been passed by Canada Geese while taking off in a Cessna , which puts them in the 60 mph range.Building a vehicle that can handle a 450 mph collision with a 15-20 pound object is intrinsically difficult .
Military tanks can do it , but their acceleration over about 60mph is terrible .
I do n't know of any other vehicles that could handle this sort of impact without getting very bent and broken.And you ca n't just use elevation , either : I 've read pilot reports of birds seen at 37,000 feet above ground level .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Canada geese are big.
They start at 6 1/2 pounds and go up to just under 20 pounds [nationalgeographic.com].
And not that this matters too much with a jet, but they're also fairly fast fliers: I've been passed by Canada Geese while taking off in a Cessna, which puts them in the 60 mph range.Building a vehicle that can handle a 450 mph collision with a 15-20 pound object is intrinsically difficult.
Military tanks can do it, but their acceleration over about 60mph is terrible.
I don't know of any other vehicles that could handle this sort of impact without getting very bent and broken.And you can't just use elevation, either: I've read pilot reports of birds seen at 37,000 feet above ground level.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28290393</id>
	<title>Re:Shield</title>
	<author>TheThiefMaster</author>
	<datestamp>1244753280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not just a metal grid over the engine, which is raised slightly forward in the middle?<br>Bird hits grid, bird bounces off grid and goes around the engine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not just a metal grid over the engine , which is raised slightly forward in the middle ? Bird hits grid , bird bounces off grid and goes around the engine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not just a metal grid over the engine, which is raised slightly forward in the middle?Bird hits grid, bird bounces off grid and goes around the engine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28291393</id>
	<title>Duh.</title>
	<author>chazd1</author>
	<datestamp>1244724840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I mean the technology exists already. What do you think the dish in front of NCC-1701 is for? </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean the technology exists already .
What do you think the dish in front of NCC-1701 is for ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean the technology exists already.
What do you think the dish in front of NCC-1701 is for? </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285445</id>
	<title>Re:Inevitable, make sturdier planes...</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1244629080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>Canada</b> goose. A Canadian goose simply happens to come from Canada. A Canada goose is of a specific species.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Canada goose .
A Canadian goose simply happens to come from Canada .
A Canada goose is of a specific species .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Canada goose.
A Canadian goose simply happens to come from Canada.
A Canada goose is of a specific species.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285139</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284807</id>
	<title>Shoot them</title>
	<author>WilyCoder</author>
	<datestamp>1244626440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has yet to endorse a single solution that will keep birds out of the path of an oncoming aircraft."</p><p>Um, shoot them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" the Federal Aviation Administration ( FAA ) has yet to endorse a single solution that will keep birds out of the path of an oncoming aircraft .
" Um , shoot them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has yet to endorse a single solution that will keep birds out of the path of an oncoming aircraft.
"Um, shoot them?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285077</id>
	<title>Re:Hopefully That Control System Won't Brunning Li</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244627400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>WTF?  The trolls are openly signing up for accounts now?  Just had to make us use 2 mod points to get you down to -1, huh?  999 internet points to the guy that writes a screen scraper to auto mod down the trolls (linuxisashittyos).</htmltext>
<tokenext>WTF ?
The trolls are openly signing up for accounts now ?
Just had to make us use 2 mod points to get you down to -1 , huh ?
999 internet points to the guy that writes a screen scraper to auto mod down the trolls ( linuxisashittyos ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WTF?
The trolls are openly signing up for accounts now?
Just had to make us use 2 mod points to get you down to -1, huh?
999 internet points to the guy that writes a screen scraper to auto mod down the trolls (linuxisashittyos).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284855</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28299711</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>DirkGently</author>
	<datestamp>1244712840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just don't see how anyone could profit from this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just do n't see how anyone could profit from this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just don't see how anyone could profit from this.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285119</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286145</id>
	<title>Re:Airbus</title>
	<author>BobMcD</author>
	<datestamp>1244631600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm totally neutral in the Airbus v Boeing issue, but I fail to see how a post that provides no affirmative information is '+5 Insightful'.</p><p>What, praytell, did happen?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm totally neutral in the Airbus v Boeing issue , but I fail to see how a post that provides no affirmative information is ' + 5 Insightful'.What , praytell , did happen ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm totally neutral in the Airbus v Boeing issue, but I fail to see how a post that provides no affirmative information is '+5 Insightful'.What, praytell, did happen?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285237</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287637</id>
	<title>Shred before impact</title>
	<author>joshier</author>
	<datestamp>1244641020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical\_high\_energy\_laser" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">
nautilus laser system</a> [wikipedia.org] that constantly spins within the front intake, thus on impact the birds are essentially vaporised and cause much less stress on the blades.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about a nautilus laser system [ wikipedia.org ] that constantly spins within the front intake , thus on impact the birds are essentially vaporised and cause much less stress on the blades .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about a 
nautilus laser system [wikipedia.org] that constantly spins within the front intake, thus on impact the birds are essentially vaporised and cause much less stress on the blades.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28290961</id>
	<title>just talk to them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244718540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>has anybody thought of simply asking the birds not to fly into the engines? or just to avoid airports all together. we could give them a map and mark out airports or busy corridors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>has anybody thought of simply asking the birds not to fly into the engines ?
or just to avoid airports all together .
we could give them a map and mark out airports or busy corridors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>has anybody thought of simply asking the birds not to fly into the engines?
or just to avoid airports all together.
we could give them a map and mark out airports or busy corridors.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286141</id>
	<title>We are only visitors...</title>
	<author>cyber1kenobi</author>
	<datestamp>1244631600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The air really belongs to those animals... anything we do to prevent them from being in the areas is only going to cause more harm.  Can't we just develop teleportation already?!</htmltext>
<tokenext>The air really belongs to those animals... anything we do to prevent them from being in the areas is only going to cause more harm .
Ca n't we just develop teleportation already ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The air really belongs to those animals... anything we do to prevent them from being in the areas is only going to cause more harm.
Can't we just develop teleportation already?
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285269</id>
	<title>Nethack</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244628300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The solution is known for ages: http://www.nethack.de/spoiler/32geno.txt</p><p>You find an aircraft. You find a scroll of genocide.<br>You read the scroll of genocide.<br>What monster do you want to genocide? [type the name] pilo^H^H^H^Hgoose.<br>Sent in some goose. Goose don't vote for Christmas. Happy Christmas, pilot!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The solution is known for ages : http : //www.nethack.de/spoiler/32geno.txtYou find an aircraft .
You find a scroll of genocide.You read the scroll of genocide.What monster do you want to genocide ?
[ type the name ] pilo ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ Hgoose.Sent in some goose .
Goose do n't vote for Christmas .
Happy Christmas , pilot !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The solution is known for ages: http://www.nethack.de/spoiler/32geno.txtYou find an aircraft.
You find a scroll of genocide.You read the scroll of genocide.What monster do you want to genocide?
[type the name] pilo^H^H^H^Hgoose.Sent in some goose.
Goose don't vote for Christmas.
Happy Christmas, pilot!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28288757</id>
	<title>The problem is they want a *free* solution!</title>
	<author>cyn1c77</author>
	<datestamp>1244649900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Increase the hunting season and limits around airports throughout the country.  It won't hurt the airplanes.  A shotgun with is only lethal for what, 70 yards tops?  </p><p>Or, like others have noted, put a birdcatcher in front of the engine inlet to deflect the birds, like cowcatcher did on trains.  </p><p>The real problem is that the airlines and airports are not willing to accept decreased efficiency (lower profits) for increased safety.  No new news there.  </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Increase the hunting season and limits around airports throughout the country .
It wo n't hurt the airplanes .
A shotgun with is only lethal for what , 70 yards tops ?
Or , like others have noted , put a birdcatcher in front of the engine inlet to deflect the birds , like cowcatcher did on trains .
The real problem is that the airlines and airports are not willing to accept decreased efficiency ( lower profits ) for increased safety .
No new news there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Increase the hunting season and limits around airports throughout the country.
It won't hurt the airplanes.
A shotgun with is only lethal for what, 70 yards tops?
Or, like others have noted, put a birdcatcher in front of the engine inlet to deflect the birds, like cowcatcher did on trains.
The real problem is that the airlines and airports are not willing to accept decreased efficiency (lower profits) for increased safety.
No new news there.  </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287207</id>
	<title>barriers</title>
	<author>shentino</author>
	<datestamp>1244637900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not put bird barrier meshes in front of the intakes?</p><p>We already have cowcatchers for trains.</p><p>If angled properly, the sheer momentum of the birds shoudl cause them to roll off the fence.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not put bird barrier meshes in front of the intakes ? We already have cowcatchers for trains.If angled properly , the sheer momentum of the birds shoudl cause them to roll off the fence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not put bird barrier meshes in front of the intakes?We already have cowcatchers for trains.If angled properly, the sheer momentum of the birds shoudl cause them to roll off the fence.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286631</id>
	<title>Re:I know one person that can do it</title>
	<author>superdave80</author>
	<datestamp>1244634420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The guy that couldn't tell his friend from a bird?  I'm not sure if he'd hit the birds or the pilots with that poor vision.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The guy that could n't tell his friend from a bird ?
I 'm not sure if he 'd hit the birds or the pilots with that poor vision .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The guy that couldn't tell his friend from a bird?
I'm not sure if he'd hit the birds or the pilots with that poor vision.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284811</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28289227</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>a dark blue</author>
	<datestamp>1244654460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>yeah, arm swallows with coconuts</htmltext>
<tokenext>yeah , arm swallows with coconuts</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yeah, arm swallows with coconuts</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286477</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285453</id>
	<title>Re:I know one person that can do it</title>
	<author>tsa</author>
	<datestamp>1244629140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Donald Rumsfeld can do it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Donald Rumsfeld can do it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Donald Rumsfeld can do it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284999</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286349</id>
	<title>Re:Good luck</title>
	<author>mrmeval</author>
	<datestamp>1244632800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Give a poor boy 20 dollars a bird and let him keep any worth keeping. You won't have a bird problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Give a poor boy 20 dollars a bird and let him keep any worth keeping .
You wo n't have a bird problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Give a poor boy 20 dollars a bird and let him keep any worth keeping.
You won't have a bird problem.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284809</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285279</id>
	<title>duh</title>
	<author>n30na</author>
	<datestamp>1244628360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"The best bet right now is understanding bird behavior, although an intriguing old pilots' tale &#226;" that  radar can scatter birds &#226;" may carry enough truth to ultimately offer a viable technical solution to a deadly problem. 'We need to find out, is that an urban legend or is there some truth to that?'</p></div><p>

Isn't that what the mythbusters are for? c'mon guys.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The best bet right now is understanding bird behavior , although an intriguing old pilots ' tale   " that radar can scatter birds   " may carry enough truth to ultimately offer a viable technical solution to a deadly problem .
'We need to find out , is that an urban legend or is there some truth to that ?
' Is n't that what the mythbusters are for ?
c'mon guys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The best bet right now is understanding bird behavior, although an intriguing old pilots' tale â" that  radar can scatter birds â" may carry enough truth to ultimately offer a viable technical solution to a deadly problem.
'We need to find out, is that an urban legend or is there some truth to that?
'

Isn't that what the mythbusters are for?
c'mon guys.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286005</id>
	<title>Re:A screen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244631060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At 600 miles an hour, it wouldn't bounce the bird away, but it'd at least slice it into 2-inch squares.  Those however, will still be sucked into the engine.  Perhaps also with chunks of this mesh that break away when the bird hits it... which would be far worse than the fleshyness of the bird itself.</p><p>I can't see any feasable to way to 'bounce' a bird at that speed... no matter what it hits, it's either going through, or turning into a fine paste on top of.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At 600 miles an hour , it would n't bounce the bird away , but it 'd at least slice it into 2-inch squares .
Those however , will still be sucked into the engine .
Perhaps also with chunks of this mesh that break away when the bird hits it... which would be far worse than the fleshyness of the bird itself.I ca n't see any feasable to way to 'bounce ' a bird at that speed... no matter what it hits , it 's either going through , or turning into a fine paste on top of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At 600 miles an hour, it wouldn't bounce the bird away, but it'd at least slice it into 2-inch squares.
Those however, will still be sucked into the engine.
Perhaps also with chunks of this mesh that break away when the bird hits it... which would be far worse than the fleshyness of the bird itself.I can't see any feasable to way to 'bounce' a bird at that speed... no matter what it hits, it's either going through, or turning into a fine paste on top of.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285369</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28289619</id>
	<title>In a car ...</title>
	<author>flnca</author>
	<datestamp>1244658000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... you don't worry either. Put a grille in front of every engine, hard enough to withstand the birds. Automated cleaning systems could then get rid of bird goo during flight, if necessary. How about non-stick teflon?</htmltext>
<tokenext>... you do n't worry either .
Put a grille in front of every engine , hard enough to withstand the birds .
Automated cleaning systems could then get rid of bird goo during flight , if necessary .
How about non-stick teflon ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... you don't worry either.
Put a grille in front of every engine, hard enough to withstand the birds.
Automated cleaning systems could then get rid of bird goo during flight, if necessary.
How about non-stick teflon?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28289237</id>
	<title>Re:Inevitable, make sturdier planes...</title>
	<author>WolfWithoutAClause</author>
	<datestamp>1244654580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, they need to make the engines out of the same stuff they make the blackboxes out of. It's clearly indestructible!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , they need to make the engines out of the same stuff they make the blackboxes out of .
It 's clearly indestructible !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, they need to make the engines out of the same stuff they make the blackboxes out of.
It's clearly indestructible!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285139</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287285</id>
	<title>Re:A screen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244638680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What is needed is not so much a screen, but rather a solid angled metal shield that projects about 1-2 feet in front of the air intake for the engine on take off and landing, and retracts at cruising altitude. If there is no way to get rid of the birds, and no way to make the engine stronger, then the only solution is a retractable barrier that will push the birds aside and keep them out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What is needed is not so much a screen , but rather a solid angled metal shield that projects about 1-2 feet in front of the air intake for the engine on take off and landing , and retracts at cruising altitude .
If there is no way to get rid of the birds , and no way to make the engine stronger , then the only solution is a retractable barrier that will push the birds aside and keep them out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is needed is not so much a screen, but rather a solid angled metal shield that projects about 1-2 feet in front of the air intake for the engine on take off and landing, and retracts at cruising altitude.
If there is no way to get rid of the birds, and no way to make the engine stronger, then the only solution is a retractable barrier that will push the birds aside and keep them out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285369</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285631</id>
	<title>star trek</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244629860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>they need to enable shields.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>they need to enable shields .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they need to enable shields.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284993</id>
	<title>Re:I know one person that can do it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244627100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dick Chaney only shoots birds whose wings have been clipped to make it easier for that fat, stinking, pile of human shit to play hunter.</p><p>Of course Dick Chaney is bound to hit  his friends in the face from time to time so I would avoid any "hunting" expeditions with him like death itself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dick Chaney only shoots birds whose wings have been clipped to make it easier for that fat , stinking , pile of human shit to play hunter.Of course Dick Chaney is bound to hit his friends in the face from time to time so I would avoid any " hunting " expeditions with him like death itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dick Chaney only shoots birds whose wings have been clipped to make it easier for that fat, stinking, pile of human shit to play hunter.Of course Dick Chaney is bound to hit  his friends in the face from time to time so I would avoid any "hunting" expeditions with him like death itself.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284811</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285081</id>
	<title>Scarecrows</title>
	<author>EvilToiletPaper</author>
	<datestamp>1244627460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about two giant aerodynamic scarecrows on each wing?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about two giant aerodynamic scarecrows on each wing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about two giant aerodynamic scarecrows on each wing?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28291115</id>
	<title>Re:Birds are smart</title>
	<author>samson13</author>
	<datestamp>1244721000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My little brother's work has a no fly zone over it. Even the birds don't fly over a second time....</p><p>He showed me a photo of some wings with some carbon between them.</p><p>Not a solution for airports cause apparently they can do that to pilots as well (hence the NOTAM restricted area). &gt;20kW of microwave energy and a very directional antenna could be an amusing toy. I wonder what the bit error rate is from cooking a bird?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My little brother 's work has a no fly zone over it .
Even the birds do n't fly over a second time....He showed me a photo of some wings with some carbon between them.Not a solution for airports cause apparently they can do that to pilots as well ( hence the NOTAM restricted area ) .
&gt; 20kW of microwave energy and a very directional antenna could be an amusing toy .
I wonder what the bit error rate is from cooking a bird ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My little brother's work has a no fly zone over it.
Even the birds don't fly over a second time....He showed me a photo of some wings with some carbon between them.Not a solution for airports cause apparently they can do that to pilots as well (hence the NOTAM restricted area).
&gt;20kW of microwave energy and a very directional antenna could be an amusing toy.
I wonder what the bit error rate is from cooking a bird?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284829</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28304577</id>
	<title>Why Paint ? The birds won't notice anyways</title>
	<author>freaker\_TuC</author>
	<datestamp>1244744580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why paint the plane gray like a shark?</p><p>The birds won't have enough time to notice the color or design before being hit anyways!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why paint the plane gray like a shark ? The birds wo n't have enough time to notice the color or design before being hit anyways !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why paint the plane gray like a shark?The birds won't have enough time to notice the color or design before being hit anyways!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285119</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286003</id>
	<title>Two solutions...</title>
	<author>GottliebPins</author>
	<datestamp>1244631060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Freakin' laser beams!

Flame throwers</htmltext>
<tokenext>Freakin ' laser beams !
Flame throwers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Freakin' laser beams!
Flame throwers</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28292651</id>
	<title>Sharks do not frighten birds.</title>
	<author>hicksw</author>
	<datestamp>1244731200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Paint the plane like a GIANT FALCON...</p><p>There, fixed that.  Apologies for trying to allow logic to overcome a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. meme.<br>--<br>I just realised I am 100 years old (base 8).  It is worse when misread in binary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Paint the plane like a GIANT FALCON...There , fixed that .
Apologies for trying to allow logic to overcome a / .
meme.--I just realised I am 100 years old ( base 8 ) .
It is worse when misread in binary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Paint the plane like a GIANT FALCON...There, fixed that.
Apologies for trying to allow logic to overcome a /.
meme.--I just realised I am 100 years old (base 8).
It is worse when misread in binary.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285119</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285273</id>
	<title>Scare them away?</title>
	<author>iLogiK</author>
	<datestamp>1244628360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"There's no magic chemical you can spray or sound you can project that is going to scare the birds away."</p></div></blockquote><p>
If a giant, noisy flying metal box with flames on its sides doesn't scare the birds, what will?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" There 's no magic chemical you can spray or sound you can project that is going to scare the birds away .
" If a giant , noisy flying metal box with flames on its sides does n't scare the birds , what will ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"There's no magic chemical you can spray or sound you can project that is going to scare the birds away.
"
If a giant, noisy flying metal box with flames on its sides doesn't scare the birds, what will?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28292027</id>
	<title>Re:Cost factor</title>
	<author>captainpanic</author>
	<datestamp>1244728920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep, good idea. Small balls of lead flying around at supersonic speeds never hurt an airplane!</p><p>How long until a bullet comes down and punctures a fuel tank?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , good idea .
Small balls of lead flying around at supersonic speeds never hurt an airplane ! How long until a bullet comes down and punctures a fuel tank ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, good idea.
Small balls of lead flying around at supersonic speeds never hurt an airplane!How long until a bullet comes down and punctures a fuel tank?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284919</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286103</id>
	<title>Re:Fly Around Them</title>
	<author>joggle</author>
	<datestamp>1244631360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just to pick a nick, that jet was not going anywhere near 600 mph during climb just 5 miles downrange from the airport. Usually once a jet reaches that speed they're at cruising altitude above the altitude at which almost any bird ever flies. Another nick is they usually cruise much closer to 500 mph, not 600 mph (the latter being about 91\% of the speed of sound at cruising altitude, way too fast for any commercial airliner currently flying).</p><p>Still, even at the speed it was probably traveling at (perhaps 200-250 mph) it still would be difficult if not impossible to see the birds quickly enough to avoid them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just to pick a nick , that jet was not going anywhere near 600 mph during climb just 5 miles downrange from the airport .
Usually once a jet reaches that speed they 're at cruising altitude above the altitude at which almost any bird ever flies .
Another nick is they usually cruise much closer to 500 mph , not 600 mph ( the latter being about 91 \ % of the speed of sound at cruising altitude , way too fast for any commercial airliner currently flying ) .Still , even at the speed it was probably traveling at ( perhaps 200-250 mph ) it still would be difficult if not impossible to see the birds quickly enough to avoid them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just to pick a nick, that jet was not going anywhere near 600 mph during climb just 5 miles downrange from the airport.
Usually once a jet reaches that speed they're at cruising altitude above the altitude at which almost any bird ever flies.
Another nick is they usually cruise much closer to 500 mph, not 600 mph (the latter being about 91\% of the speed of sound at cruising altitude, way too fast for any commercial airliner currently flying).Still, even at the speed it was probably traveling at (perhaps 200-250 mph) it still would be difficult if not impossible to see the birds quickly enough to avoid them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285427</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285427</id>
	<title>Re:Fly Around Them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244629020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Generally, yes, the flocks are difficult to pick up on radar, due to the small cross-section, and generally squishy nature of birds. The speed of an aircraft is also an issue - moving at 600mph (~880 feet per second) - means the flock (given radar / VFR issues) will probably already be upon you even before you have a chance to react. Even if you did have time to react, an Airbus A320 doesn't exactly (safely) turn on a dime.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Generally , yes , the flocks are difficult to pick up on radar , due to the small cross-section , and generally squishy nature of birds .
The speed of an aircraft is also an issue - moving at 600mph ( ~ 880 feet per second ) - means the flock ( given radar / VFR issues ) will probably already be upon you even before you have a chance to react .
Even if you did have time to react , an Airbus A320 does n't exactly ( safely ) turn on a dime .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Generally, yes, the flocks are difficult to pick up on radar, due to the small cross-section, and generally squishy nature of birds.
The speed of an aircraft is also an issue - moving at 600mph (~880 feet per second) - means the flock (given radar / VFR issues) will probably already be upon you even before you have a chance to react.
Even if you did have time to react, an Airbus A320 doesn't exactly (safely) turn on a dime.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285005</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284831</id>
	<title>Paint the planes...</title>
	<author>TBoon</author>
	<datestamp>1244626560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...to look like predator birds. (Laser equipped shark-paintings optional if primarily flying over water...)</htmltext>
<tokenext>...to look like predator birds .
( Laser equipped shark-paintings optional if primarily flying over water... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...to look like predator birds.
(Laser equipped shark-paintings optional if primarily flying over water...)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285485</id>
	<title>Re:Hopefully That Control System Won't Brunning Li</title>
	<author>K. S. Kyosuke</author>
	<datestamp>1244629320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>So true. My wish for 0+1j Confused has not been granted as well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So true .
My wish for 0 + 1j Confused has not been granted as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So true.
My wish for 0+1j Confused has not been granted as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285049</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285471</id>
	<title>Re:why not kill two birds with one stone</title>
	<author>liquidsin</author>
	<datestamp>1244629200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>we're past that; we're looking for a more efficient use of stones.  our original target was a 5:1 bird/stone ratio, but right now 3:1 is looking more feasible; at 2:1 you have to factor in the weight of a half-flock of rocks added to your cargo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>we 're past that ; we 're looking for a more efficient use of stones .
our original target was a 5 : 1 bird/stone ratio , but right now 3 : 1 is looking more feasible ; at 2 : 1 you have to factor in the weight of a half-flock of rocks added to your cargo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>we're past that; we're looking for a more efficient use of stones.
our original target was a 5:1 bird/stone ratio, but right now 3:1 is looking more feasible; at 2:1 you have to factor in the weight of a half-flock of rocks added to your cargo.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284813</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28291785</id>
	<title>Re:You have no idea how fast this comes up.</title>
	<author>Peter Simpson</author>
	<datestamp>1244727840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow.  Scary stuff.</p><p>"prepare to abandon aircraft"</p><p>Don't think I ever want to hear that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow .
Scary stuff .
" prepare to abandon aircraft " Do n't think I ever want to hear that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow.
Scary stuff.
"prepare to abandon aircraft"Don't think I ever want to hear that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28289203</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284855</id>
	<title>Hopefully That Control System Won't Brunning Linux</title>
	<author>linuxisashittyos</author>
	<datestamp>1244626620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Linux just isn't ready for the airplane control system yet. It may be ready for the web servers that you nerds use to distribute your TRON fanzines and personal Dungeons and Dragons web-sights across the world wide web, but the average air traffic controller user isn't going to spend months learning how to use a CLI and then hours compiling packages so that they can get a workable graphic interface to check on the planes in the sky with, especially not when they already have a Windows machine that does its job perfectly well and is backed by a major corporation, as opposed to Linux which is only supported by a few unemployed nerds living in their mother's basement somewhere. The last thing I want is a level 5 dwarf (haha) providing me my OS.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux just is n't ready for the airplane control system yet .
It may be ready for the web servers that you nerds use to distribute your TRON fanzines and personal Dungeons and Dragons web-sights across the world wide web , but the average air traffic controller user is n't going to spend months learning how to use a CLI and then hours compiling packages so that they can get a workable graphic interface to check on the planes in the sky with , especially not when they already have a Windows machine that does its job perfectly well and is backed by a major corporation , as opposed to Linux which is only supported by a few unemployed nerds living in their mother 's basement somewhere .
The last thing I want is a level 5 dwarf ( haha ) providing me my OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux just isn't ready for the airplane control system yet.
It may be ready for the web servers that you nerds use to distribute your TRON fanzines and personal Dungeons and Dragons web-sights across the world wide web, but the average air traffic controller user isn't going to spend months learning how to use a CLI and then hours compiling packages so that they can get a workable graphic interface to check on the planes in the sky with, especially not when they already have a Windows machine that does its job perfectly well and is backed by a major corporation, as opposed to Linux which is only supported by a few unemployed nerds living in their mother's basement somewhere.
The last thing I want is a level 5 dwarf (haha) providing me my OS.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284807</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285495</id>
	<title>Re:Airbus</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244629320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bull-fucking-shit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bull-fucking-shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bull-fucking-shit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285073</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28302963</id>
	<title>And the answer is...</title>
	<author>Xarin</author>
	<datestamp>1244728320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait until the molting season when the geese can not fly, trap them all and gas them.<br><a href="http://wcbstv.com/local/bird.strike.prevention.2.1041000.html" title="wcbstv.com" rel="nofollow">http://wcbstv.com/local/bird.strike.prevention.2.1041000.html</a> [wcbstv.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait until the molting season when the geese can not fly , trap them all and gas them.http : //wcbstv.com/local/bird.strike.prevention.2.1041000.html [ wcbstv.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait until the molting season when the geese can not fly, trap them all and gas them.http://wcbstv.com/local/bird.strike.prevention.2.1041000.html [wcbstv.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28288883</id>
	<title>Can't be this simple</title>
	<author>midwestsilentone</author>
	<datestamp>1244651100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Surely its not that simple?  Put a cage over the engine intake, like you would have over any industrial engine some idiot could put his hand in!  A flock of 8lb birds, surely you can keep 7 of 8 out?!?  You could even put warning stickers on it!  That would keep the rest away.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Surely its not that simple ?
Put a cage over the engine intake , like you would have over any industrial engine some idiot could put his hand in !
A flock of 8lb birds , surely you can keep 7 of 8 out ? ! ?
You could even put warning stickers on it !
That would keep the rest away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surely its not that simple?
Put a cage over the engine intake, like you would have over any industrial engine some idiot could put his hand in!
A flock of 8lb birds, surely you can keep 7 of 8 out?!?
You could even put warning stickers on it!
That would keep the rest away.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285237</id>
	<title>Re:Airbus</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244628180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is a very well written post.  Unfortinately that is not what happened.  But good job bashing Airbus.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is a very well written post .
Unfortinately that is not what happened .
But good job bashing Airbus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is a very well written post.
Unfortinately that is not what happened.
But good job bashing Airbus.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285073</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286717</id>
	<title>How about a goose-whistle?</title>
	<author>Ozlanthos</author>
	<datestamp>1244634780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext> Knowing what I know about wildlife in general, I seriously doubt that there is not a single sound pitch that can divert the path of flying birds. To me such an idea is inconceivable. Here in the northwest we have an issue with running into deer, elk, and other wildlife. One clever chap came up with the idea of mounting "deer-whistles" on the front of his car. The whistle emits a high-pitched sound that warns and perturbs deer and other wildlife before they get "amazed" by your head-lights. I guess my question is, due to the fact that sound still travels faster than "most" planes (commercial and most private aircraft anyway) why is it these guys can't find a "whistle" for gees and other birds? There is a call designed for drawing them in to shoot them, why can't their be a "call" to get them to migrate out of your flight path?
<br>
<br>
-Oz</htmltext>
<tokenext>Knowing what I know about wildlife in general , I seriously doubt that there is not a single sound pitch that can divert the path of flying birds .
To me such an idea is inconceivable .
Here in the northwest we have an issue with running into deer , elk , and other wildlife .
One clever chap came up with the idea of mounting " deer-whistles " on the front of his car .
The whistle emits a high-pitched sound that warns and perturbs deer and other wildlife before they get " amazed " by your head-lights .
I guess my question is , due to the fact that sound still travels faster than " most " planes ( commercial and most private aircraft anyway ) why is it these guys ca n't find a " whistle " for gees and other birds ?
There is a call designed for drawing them in to shoot them , why ca n't their be a " call " to get them to migrate out of your flight path ?
-Oz</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Knowing what I know about wildlife in general, I seriously doubt that there is not a single sound pitch that can divert the path of flying birds.
To me such an idea is inconceivable.
Here in the northwest we have an issue with running into deer, elk, and other wildlife.
One clever chap came up with the idea of mounting "deer-whistles" on the front of his car.
The whistle emits a high-pitched sound that warns and perturbs deer and other wildlife before they get "amazed" by your head-lights.
I guess my question is, due to the fact that sound still travels faster than "most" planes (commercial and most private aircraft anyway) why is it these guys can't find a "whistle" for gees and other birds?
There is a call designed for drawing them in to shoot them, why can't their be a "call" to get them to migrate out of your flight path?
-Oz</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285133</id>
	<title>Even better:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244627640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skYRZ\_-RXtk" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">Mega Shark!</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mega Shark !
[ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mega Shark!
[youtube.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284909</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287151</id>
	<title>Re:USAF</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244637480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd hate to be killed by a duck that took my head off.  Of all the stupid ways to die, that's towards the top of the list.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd hate to be killed by a duck that took my head off .
Of all the stupid ways to die , that 's towards the top of the list .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd hate to be killed by a duck that took my head off.
Of all the stupid ways to die, that's towards the top of the list.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284889</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286213</id>
	<title>Avoid the birds</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244632020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The best solution seems to be for planes to not hit birds.  Planes move way too fast for birds to dodge at short range, and at long range they don't know what to expect--nor should we expect them to unless we install bird telepathy projectors on the planes.</p><p>On the other hand, planes move really fast, and a small change in angle early on will take the plane far away from, say, a flock of incoming geese.  The question is, then, \_where are the geese\_?</p><p>Now, geese might be hard to see from a plane when they're lost in a bunch of buildings and what not.  But they're not hard to see from the ground if you have a clear line of sight to the sky and a good IR illumination system.  So you sweep your flight path from the ground until an altitude where bird strikes aren't likely to be a problem with a strobed IR laser and look for returning flashes.  Ground control tells the plane where the geese are and which way they're going (and how fast), and the plane takes evasive action.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The best solution seems to be for planes to not hit birds .
Planes move way too fast for birds to dodge at short range , and at long range they do n't know what to expect--nor should we expect them to unless we install bird telepathy projectors on the planes.On the other hand , planes move really fast , and a small change in angle early on will take the plane far away from , say , a flock of incoming geese .
The question is , then , \ _where are the geese \ _ ? Now , geese might be hard to see from a plane when they 're lost in a bunch of buildings and what not .
But they 're not hard to see from the ground if you have a clear line of sight to the sky and a good IR illumination system .
So you sweep your flight path from the ground until an altitude where bird strikes are n't likely to be a problem with a strobed IR laser and look for returning flashes .
Ground control tells the plane where the geese are and which way they 're going ( and how fast ) , and the plane takes evasive action .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The best solution seems to be for planes to not hit birds.
Planes move way too fast for birds to dodge at short range, and at long range they don't know what to expect--nor should we expect them to unless we install bird telepathy projectors on the planes.On the other hand, planes move really fast, and a small change in angle early on will take the plane far away from, say, a flock of incoming geese.
The question is, then, \_where are the geese\_?Now, geese might be hard to see from a plane when they're lost in a bunch of buildings and what not.
But they're not hard to see from the ground if you have a clear line of sight to the sky and a good IR illumination system.
So you sweep your flight path from the ground until an altitude where bird strikes aren't likely to be a problem with a strobed IR laser and look for returning flashes.
Ground control tells the plane where the geese are and which way they're going (and how fast), and the plane takes evasive action.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284989</id>
	<title>Turrets!</title>
	<author>P2PDaemon</author>
	<datestamp>1244627100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>C'mon, no one's mentioned automatic turrets above every engine?  I would pay money to have a window seat if turrets were installed...</htmltext>
<tokenext>C'mon , no one 's mentioned automatic turrets above every engine ?
I would pay money to have a window seat if turrets were installed.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>C'mon, no one's mentioned automatic turrets above every engine?
I would pay money to have a window seat if turrets were installed...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28288151</id>
	<title>anon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244644800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As usual we humans have it bassakward. Our aircraft are invading the bird's habitat. I haven't heard one lament for the dead geese. Aircraft, wind generators and buildings and towers kill millions of migrating birds a year. The air was theirs before we came and it'll be theirs when we're gone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As usual we humans have it bassakward .
Our aircraft are invading the bird 's habitat .
I have n't heard one lament for the dead geese .
Aircraft , wind generators and buildings and towers kill millions of migrating birds a year .
The air was theirs before we came and it 'll be theirs when we 're gone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As usual we humans have it bassakward.
Our aircraft are invading the bird's habitat.
I haven't heard one lament for the dead geese.
Aircraft, wind generators and buildings and towers kill millions of migrating birds a year.
The air was theirs before we came and it'll be theirs when we're gone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285787</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>derGoldstein</author>
	<datestamp>1244630400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>And then serve the shot birds as meals in the aircraft. It's like two birds with one, er, shot!</htmltext>
<tokenext>And then serve the shot birds as meals in the aircraft .
It 's like two birds with one , er , shot !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And then serve the shot birds as meals in the aircraft.
It's like two birds with one, er, shot!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284853</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28290919</id>
	<title>Birds don't strke planes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244717880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Birds don't strike planes, planes strike birds.  Think of the relative speeds.  Birds are happily flying about as they always have, man sticks a huge fast moving chunk of metal in the sky, and its the birds fault when a collision occurs.  Got to love humans attitude to their environment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Birds do n't strike planes , planes strike birds .
Think of the relative speeds .
Birds are happily flying about as they always have , man sticks a huge fast moving chunk of metal in the sky , and its the birds fault when a collision occurs .
Got to love humans attitude to their environment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Birds don't strike planes, planes strike birds.
Think of the relative speeds.
Birds are happily flying about as they always have, man sticks a huge fast moving chunk of metal in the sky, and its the birds fault when a collision occurs.
Got to love humans attitude to their environment.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285637</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>cellurl</author>
	<datestamp>1244629860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We always look for some hitech solution in aviation. </p><p>At Dulles Airport in DC, they shoot off a carbide cannon a few minutes prior to takeoff.</p><p>Its a really loud bang that no-bird enjoys!.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We always look for some hitech solution in aviation .
At Dulles Airport in DC , they shoot off a carbide cannon a few minutes prior to takeoff.Its a really loud bang that no-bird enjoys ! .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We always look for some hitech solution in aviation.
At Dulles Airport in DC, they shoot off a carbide cannon a few minutes prior to takeoff.Its a really loud bang that no-bird enjoys!.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284807</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28296401</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>default luser</author>
	<datestamp>1244744460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just shoot them all so we get rid of all the noise pollution!  Damn jumbo jets keep me up at night, and damn birds wake me up in the morning!</p><p>Hey Charlie, where have you been lately?  The Inq has been boring without you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just shoot them all so we get rid of all the noise pollution !
Damn jumbo jets keep me up at night , and damn birds wake me up in the morning ! Hey Charlie , where have you been lately ?
The Inq has been boring without you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just shoot them all so we get rid of all the noise pollution!
Damn jumbo jets keep me up at night, and damn birds wake me up in the morning!Hey Charlie, where have you been lately?
The Inq has been boring without you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284853</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28333781</id>
	<title>Re:Let natural selection do it</title>
	<author>jotaeleemeese</author>
	<datestamp>1245071400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are a plethora of genetic traits that would contribute to a bird flying in front of a plane.</p><p>Random selection would arguably work by removing birds with a certain set of traits, irrespective of which ones they are (migration, flying at a certain altitutde, time of the day or night at which they flight, etc, etc etc).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are a plethora of genetic traits that would contribute to a bird flying in front of a plane.Random selection would arguably work by removing birds with a certain set of traits , irrespective of which ones they are ( migration , flying at a certain altitutde , time of the day or night at which they flight , etc , etc etc ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are a plethora of genetic traits that would contribute to a bird flying in front of a plane.Random selection would arguably work by removing birds with a certain set of traits, irrespective of which ones they are (migration, flying at a certain altitutde, time of the day or night at which they flight, etc, etc etc).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28288825</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286911</id>
	<title>Re:Birds are smart</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1244635980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know someone that's been sucked into a Jumbo Jet intake more then once?</p><p>You might want to tell Clark we are on to him.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know someone that 's been sucked into a Jumbo Jet intake more then once ? You might want to tell Clark we are on to him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know someone that's been sucked into a Jumbo Jet intake more then once?You might want to tell Clark we are on to him.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284829</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287683</id>
	<title>Re:Fly Around Them</title>
	<author>inviolet</author>
	<datestamp>1244641380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Are flocks too small to pick up on the plane's radar? If not, fly around them.</p></div></blockquote><p>Very very very few commercial aircraft carry their own radars.
</p><p>And the approach radar, usually located at the airport, will probably be tuned to <i>ignore</i> bird flocks.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are flocks too small to pick up on the plane 's radar ?
If not , fly around them.Very very very few commercial aircraft carry their own radars .
And the approach radar , usually located at the airport , will probably be tuned to ignore bird flocks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are flocks too small to pick up on the plane's radar?
If not, fly around them.Very very very few commercial aircraft carry their own radars.
And the approach radar, usually located at the airport, will probably be tuned to ignore bird flocks.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285005</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284999</id>
	<title>Re:I know one person that can do it</title>
	<author>JCSoRocks</author>
	<datestamp>1244627100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not so sure. Now if we needed a plane full of RIAA lawyers dealt with he's the man to send in. If you're looking to get birds killed you'd have better luck with a slingshots and a bunch of bored teenagers than you would Dick Cheney.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not so sure .
Now if we needed a plane full of RIAA lawyers dealt with he 's the man to send in .
If you 're looking to get birds killed you 'd have better luck with a slingshots and a bunch of bored teenagers than you would Dick Cheney .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not so sure.
Now if we needed a plane full of RIAA lawyers dealt with he's the man to send in.
If you're looking to get birds killed you'd have better luck with a slingshots and a bunch of bored teenagers than you would Dick Cheney.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284811</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286477</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>EdIII</author>
	<datestamp>1244633460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>By 'them', do you mean the planes or the birds?</p></div></blockquote><p>That's a very good question.</p><p>If he's a PETA supporter I would think it would be the planes and he would support anti-aircraft guns to protect migration routes and enforce a 1 mile dynamic no-fly zone.</p><p>If he's a member of the NRA, I would think it would be the birds and he would support automated gun turrets on every plane.</p><p>I like to think outside of the box though, I say arm the birds.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>By 'them ' , do you mean the planes or the birds ? That 's a very good question.If he 's a PETA supporter I would think it would be the planes and he would support anti-aircraft guns to protect migration routes and enforce a 1 mile dynamic no-fly zone.If he 's a member of the NRA , I would think it would be the birds and he would support automated gun turrets on every plane.I like to think outside of the box though , I say arm the birds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By 'them', do you mean the planes or the birds?That's a very good question.If he's a PETA supporter I would think it would be the planes and he would support anti-aircraft guns to protect migration routes and enforce a 1 mile dynamic no-fly zone.If he's a member of the NRA, I would think it would be the birds and he would support automated gun turrets on every plane.I like to think outside of the box though, I say arm the birds.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284853</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285073</id>
	<title>Airbus</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244627400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>AFAIK, the bird themselves didn't actually stop the engines on Sully's Airbus.  They just took out the engine sensors.  Since Airbus' route all pilot inputs through a computer, and the computer is the final arbitrator of whether or not to allow the action, Sully's attempts to add power were nullified by the computer.  With the sensors gone the computer interpreted the engines as over-revving, essentially, so it throttled them back to idle.  Most likely if the birds had hit a Boeing product, which has simpler, redundant mechanical linkages to the engines, they would have been able to go around and land safely back at the airport.</htmltext>
<tokenext>AFAIK , the bird themselves did n't actually stop the engines on Sully 's Airbus .
They just took out the engine sensors .
Since Airbus ' route all pilot inputs through a computer , and the computer is the final arbitrator of whether or not to allow the action , Sully 's attempts to add power were nullified by the computer .
With the sensors gone the computer interpreted the engines as over-revving , essentially , so it throttled them back to idle .
Most likely if the birds had hit a Boeing product , which has simpler , redundant mechanical linkages to the engines , they would have been able to go around and land safely back at the airport .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AFAIK, the bird themselves didn't actually stop the engines on Sully's Airbus.
They just took out the engine sensors.
Since Airbus' route all pilot inputs through a computer, and the computer is the final arbitrator of whether or not to allow the action, Sully's attempts to add power were nullified by the computer.
With the sensors gone the computer interpreted the engines as over-revving, essentially, so it throttled them back to idle.
Most likely if the birds had hit a Boeing product, which has simpler, redundant mechanical linkages to the engines, they would have been able to go around and land safely back at the airport.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284883</id>
	<title>Fricken Laser Beams!!!</title>
	<author>Matheus</author>
	<datestamp>1244626680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd rather the birds were cooked outside the engine than in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd rather the birds were cooked outside the engine than in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd rather the birds were cooked outside the engine than in.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286959</id>
	<title>Re:Airbus</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1244636280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Engine sensor being 'taken out' would cause the status to change which would give the pilot full control.</p><p>BZZZZT try again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Engine sensor being 'taken out ' would cause the status to change which would give the pilot full control.BZZZZT try again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Engine sensor being 'taken out' would cause the status to change which would give the pilot full control.BZZZZT try again.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285073</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285839</id>
	<title>Keep Birds Away from Planes</title>
	<author>clickety6</author>
	<datestamp>1244630520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I quite agree with the FAA here. They should never have let women qualify to become pilots in the first place...</p><p>Oh wait...ah, I see... never mind...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I quite agree with the FAA here .
They should never have let women qualify to become pilots in the first place...Oh wait...ah , I see... never mind.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I quite agree with the FAA here.
They should never have let women qualify to become pilots in the first place...Oh wait...ah, I see... never mind...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28290627</id>
	<title>Re:Sharks</title>
	<author>Aehgts</author>
	<datestamp>1244712720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lasers make <a href="http://www.splitreason.com/product/768#" title="splitreason.com" rel="nofollow">everything better</a> [splitreason.com]!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lasers make everything better [ splitreason.com ] !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lasers make everything better [splitreason.com]!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284909</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285197</id>
	<title>Re:Airbus</title>
	<author>Renraku</author>
	<datestamp>1244628000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why is this marked as troll?  The poster has a good point.  A point good enough that, if true, Airbus should look into.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is this marked as troll ?
The poster has a good point .
A point good enough that , if true , Airbus should look into .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is this marked as troll?
The poster has a good point.
A point good enough that, if true, Airbus should look into.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285073</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285219</id>
	<title>BIRDBRAIN LOGIC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244628060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is expecting the birds to get out of the way of an aircraft travelling how fast?</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Why not equip planes with specialized forward looking radar to then issue an early warning in the event of a probably strike. At that point a non extreme evasive manuever could take place, save the birds, save the planes and its passengers.</p><p>fucking geniuses</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is expecting the birds to get out of the way of an aircraft travelling how fast ?
      Why not equip planes with specialized forward looking radar to then issue an early warning in the event of a probably strike .
At that point a non extreme evasive manuever could take place , save the birds , save the planes and its passengers.fucking geniuses</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is expecting the birds to get out of the way of an aircraft travelling how fast?
      Why not equip planes with specialized forward looking radar to then issue an early warning in the event of a probably strike.
At that point a non extreme evasive manuever could take place, save the birds, save the planes and its passengers.fucking geniuses</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286769</id>
	<title>If it was over land?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244635140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I keep wondering what would have happened if this occurred at Denver instead of New York.  No soft place to land, unless they could have made an airport.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I keep wondering what would have happened if this occurred at Denver instead of New York .
No soft place to land , unless they could have made an airport .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I keep wondering what would have happened if this occurred at Denver instead of New York.
No soft place to land, unless they could have made an airport.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28295041</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>BigBlueOx</author>
	<datestamp>1244739780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Also, any thoughts on how much said sniping job would pay?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter .
Also , any thoughts on how much said sniping job would pay ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Also, any thoughts on how much said sniping job would pay?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285185</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284933</id>
	<title>If everything else failed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244626860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Put a clown on each wing</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Put a clown on each wing</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Put a clown on each wing</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285733</id>
	<title>Wetlands near airports</title>
	<author>wowbagger</author>
	<datestamp>1244630220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is very true: consider <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ict&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=37.642663,-97.411888&amp;spn=0.015292,0.033045&amp;t=h&amp;z=16&amp;iwloc=A" title="google.com">this</a> [google.com]: Cessna has this big ponds just south of Wichita Midcontinent Airport. Needless to say there are a BUNCH of Canadian Geese there, RIGHT IN THE FLIGHTPATH OF THE AIRPORT. In fact, given the prevailing winds, most take-offs are to the south.</p><p>Heck, I hate even DRIVING past those ponds on K-42, due to the birds flying low over the road.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is very true : consider this [ google.com ] : Cessna has this big ponds just south of Wichita Midcontinent Airport .
Needless to say there are a BUNCH of Canadian Geese there , RIGHT IN THE FLIGHTPATH OF THE AIRPORT .
In fact , given the prevailing winds , most take-offs are to the south.Heck , I hate even DRIVING past those ponds on K-42 , due to the birds flying low over the road .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is very true: consider this [google.com]: Cessna has this big ponds just south of Wichita Midcontinent Airport.
Needless to say there are a BUNCH of Canadian Geese there, RIGHT IN THE FLIGHTPATH OF THE AIRPORT.
In fact, given the prevailing winds, most take-offs are to the south.Heck, I hate even DRIVING past those ponds on K-42, due to the birds flying low over the road.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284915</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286093</id>
	<title>Re:Fly Around Them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244631360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That would waste too much fuel.  Instead we should build a network of tunnels and underwater tubes for the planes to fly though like subways.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That would waste too much fuel .
Instead we should build a network of tunnels and underwater tubes for the planes to fly though like subways .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That would waste too much fuel.
Instead we should build a network of tunnels and underwater tubes for the planes to fly though like subways.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285005</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287837</id>
	<title>Re:Turrets!</title>
	<author>teac77</author>
	<datestamp>1244642400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Make that into an iPhone app and I'll buy it. ^^</htmltext>
<tokenext>Make that into an iPhone app and I 'll buy it .
^ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make that into an iPhone app and I'll buy it.
^^</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284989</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28288249</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>jd</author>
	<datestamp>1244645280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Guns are old-hat. Modern warfare is done with suicide bombers. Pack birdseed and fish with RDX.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Guns are old-hat .
Modern warfare is done with suicide bombers .
Pack birdseed and fish with RDX .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Guns are old-hat.
Modern warfare is done with suicide bombers.
Pack birdseed and fish with RDX.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286477</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285137</id>
	<title>Re:Hopefully That Control System Won't Brunning Li</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244627700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sure this post will offend a lot of people, but it gave me a pretty good laugh (I'm a Linux-only guy).  It reminded me more of a Comedy Central Roast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedy\_Central\_Roast), than a serious attack on Linux.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure this post will offend a lot of people , but it gave me a pretty good laugh ( I 'm a Linux-only guy ) .
It reminded me more of a Comedy Central Roast ( http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedy \ _Central \ _Roast ) , than a serious attack on Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure this post will offend a lot of people, but it gave me a pretty good laugh (I'm a Linux-only guy).
It reminded me more of a Comedy Central Roast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedy\_Central\_Roast), than a serious attack on Linux.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284855</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28291031</id>
	<title>Huge blender</title>
	<author>ManlySpork</author>
	<datestamp>1244719740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One huge blender in front of the plane, blending everything and anything in it's way. They could set up a joint project with Blendtec for this. Will it blend, that is the question BOEING 747 Edition.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One huge blender in front of the plane , blending everything and anything in it 's way .
They could set up a joint project with Blendtec for this .
Will it blend , that is the question BOEING 747 Edition .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One huge blender in front of the plane, blending everything and anything in it's way.
They could set up a joint project with Blendtec for this.
Will it blend, that is the question BOEING 747 Edition.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285515</id>
	<title>Re:Falcons</title>
	<author>Ironica</author>
	<datestamp>1244629440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Here in Brazil, they are training falcons to scare birds away from airport zones.</p></div><p>So the solution to the bird problem is... more birds?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here in Brazil , they are training falcons to scare birds away from airport zones.So the solution to the bird problem is... more birds ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here in Brazil, they are training falcons to scare birds away from airport zones.So the solution to the bird problem is... more birds?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285113</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28289003</id>
	<title>Re:Inevitable, make sturdier planes...</title>
	<author>R3d M3rcury</author>
	<datestamp>1244652120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or, perhaps, make faster geese that can get out of the way.</p><p>There's a thought:  We teach the geese to make jet airplanes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or , perhaps , make faster geese that can get out of the way.There 's a thought : We teach the geese to make jet airplanes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or, perhaps, make faster geese that can get out of the way.There's a thought:  We teach the geese to make jet airplanes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285139</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287245</id>
	<title>Shield</title>
	<author>sexconker</author>
	<datestamp>1244638260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not stick a shield in front of the engine?</p><p>No, not a disc, but a grid of thin spikes (parallel to the plane), ahead of the engine.</p><p>Everyone bitches about not being able to dodge the birds because the plane moves straight and can't turn quickly.</p><p>Use that to your advantage.  Put a little frame of thin metal poles far enough ahead of the engine that it doesn't block the airflow.  If a bird is on a collision course with the engine, it'll hit the spikes and get stuck.  Make the spiked long enough to stack several birds.  If it breaks, it breaks.  You survived a bird attack, and that spiked grid will just fall to earth and hopefully impale some people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not stick a shield in front of the engine ? No , not a disc , but a grid of thin spikes ( parallel to the plane ) , ahead of the engine.Everyone bitches about not being able to dodge the birds because the plane moves straight and ca n't turn quickly.Use that to your advantage .
Put a little frame of thin metal poles far enough ahead of the engine that it does n't block the airflow .
If a bird is on a collision course with the engine , it 'll hit the spikes and get stuck .
Make the spiked long enough to stack several birds .
If it breaks , it breaks .
You survived a bird attack , and that spiked grid will just fall to earth and hopefully impale some people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not stick a shield in front of the engine?No, not a disc, but a grid of thin spikes (parallel to the plane), ahead of the engine.Everyone bitches about not being able to dodge the birds because the plane moves straight and can't turn quickly.Use that to your advantage.
Put a little frame of thin metal poles far enough ahead of the engine that it doesn't block the airflow.
If a bird is on a collision course with the engine, it'll hit the spikes and get stuck.
Make the spiked long enough to stack several birds.
If it breaks, it breaks.
You survived a bird attack, and that spiked grid will just fall to earth and hopefully impale some people.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285147</id>
	<title>Star Wars Actually Works: +1, Informative</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244627760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not China, Not CCCP ( now Russia) but birds are the REAL enemy.</p><p>They only look like birds. To paraphrase Philip K. Dick, some night the bird suits will fall off and they'll come crashing through your roof.</p><p>Yours In Socialism,<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMdiPLnTgjw" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">Kilgore Trout</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not China , Not CCCP ( now Russia ) but birds are the REAL enemy.They only look like birds .
To paraphrase Philip K. Dick , some night the bird suits will fall off and they 'll come crashing through your roof.Yours In Socialism,Kilgore Trout [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not China, Not CCCP ( now Russia) but birds are the REAL enemy.They only look like birds.
To paraphrase Philip K. Dick, some night the bird suits will fall off and they'll come crashing through your roof.Yours In Socialism,Kilgore Trout [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286123</id>
	<title>Re:A screen</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1244631540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is slicing and dicing birds into 2 inch square strips before they hit the turbine really that much of an improvement?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is slicing and dicing birds into 2 inch square strips before they hit the turbine really that much of an improvement ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is slicing and dicing birds into 2 inch square strips before they hit the turbine really that much of an improvement?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285369</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285539</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244629560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The copilots should be a beowulf cluster of Natalie Portmans covered in hot grits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The copilots should be a beowulf cluster of Natalie Portmans covered in hot grits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The copilots should be a beowulf cluster of Natalie Portmans covered in hot grits.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285119</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284809</id>
	<title>Good luck</title>
	<author>cheezitman2001</author>
	<datestamp>1244626440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think it's for the birds.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's for the birds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's for the birds.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28290175</id>
	<title>Easy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244663940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Easy, a freaking horn people...!</p><p>Honk if you like birds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Easy , a freaking horn people... ! Honk if you like birds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Easy, a freaking horn people...!Honk if you like birds.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284889</id>
	<title>USAF</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244626680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I was stationed in Dover in the early '70s, a C-5A came in while I was working on the flightline with its windhield broken, a big bloody hole in it. It had hit a pretty large bird, IIRC a big duck, which decapitated the co-pilot. Bird strikes have been aviation's bane since there was such a thing as aviation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was stationed in Dover in the early '70s , a C-5A came in while I was working on the flightline with its windhield broken , a big bloody hole in it .
It had hit a pretty large bird , IIRC a big duck , which decapitated the co-pilot .
Bird strikes have been aviation 's bane since there was such a thing as aviation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was stationed in Dover in the early '70s, a C-5A came in while I was working on the flightline with its windhield broken, a big bloody hole in it.
It had hit a pretty large bird, IIRC a big duck, which decapitated the co-pilot.
Bird strikes have been aviation's bane since there was such a thing as aviation.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287511</id>
	<title>Wire mesh?</title>
	<author>Trogre</author>
	<datestamp>1244640180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Very thin, strong wire mesh in front of all jet engines?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Very thin , strong wire mesh in front of all jet engines ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very thin, strong wire mesh in front of all jet engines?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285247</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244628240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hear, hear.</p><p>Sooner and later, evolution will kick in and the birds will start to avoid the airplanes.</p><p>Right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hear , hear.Sooner and later , evolution will kick in and the birds will start to avoid the airplanes.Right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hear, hear.Sooner and later, evolution will kick in and the birds will start to avoid the airplanes.Right?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284807</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287109</id>
	<title>Re:Sharks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244637120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then the main problem is getting them to the birds.<br>Fortunately, <a href="http://xkcd.com/585/" title="xkcd.com" rel="nofollow">there is a solution.</a> [xkcd.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then the main problem is getting them to the birds.Fortunately , there is a solution .
[ xkcd.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then the main problem is getting them to the birds.Fortunately, there is a solution.
[xkcd.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284909</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287521</id>
	<title>Re:Inevitable, make sturdier planes...</title>
	<author>Jimbob The Mighty</author>
	<datestamp>1244640180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unless I'm mistaken, planes are already capable of hitting them. What needs to happen is to design a plane that can hit them with zero ill effects. Anybody like to round up the team that designed the 1985 Volvo 240GL and entice them to try their hands at Aeronautic Engineering?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless I 'm mistaken , planes are already capable of hitting them .
What needs to happen is to design a plane that can hit them with zero ill effects .
Anybody like to round up the team that designed the 1985 Volvo 240GL and entice them to try their hands at Aeronautic Engineering ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless I'm mistaken, planes are already capable of hitting them.
What needs to happen is to design a plane that can hit them with zero ill effects.
Anybody like to round up the team that designed the 1985 Volvo 240GL and entice them to try their hands at Aeronautic Engineering?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285139</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28290129</id>
	<title>Re:Cats</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244663160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it's no problem to mount the cats upside down. The only important part is to mount a toast with marmalade on the other side. The plane will flip but hoover above the ground. </p><p>In fact, this could be the basis for a new kind of maglev...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's no problem to mount the cats upside down .
The only important part is to mount a toast with marmalade on the other side .
The plane will flip but hoover above the ground .
In fact , this could be the basis for a new kind of maglev.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's no problem to mount the cats upside down.
The only important part is to mount a toast with marmalade on the other side.
The plane will flip but hoover above the ground.
In fact, this could be the basis for a new kind of maglev...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286299</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28287365</id>
	<title>Re:Good luck with that</title>
	<author>Jimbob The Mighty</author>
	<datestamp>1244639220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh sweet FSM! I just imagined what a bird-strike with matter transporters would look like.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh sweet FSM !
I just imagined what a bird-strike with matter transporters would look like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh sweet FSM!
I just imagined what a bird-strike with matter transporters would look like.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285059</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285623</id>
	<title>..with friggin laser beams on their heads.</title>
	<author>c0d3r</author>
	<datestamp>1244629860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about birds with friggin laser beams on their heads.. or a friggin laser beam on the head of the plane?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about birds with friggin laser beams on their heads.. or a friggin laser beam on the head of the plane ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about birds with friggin laser beams on their heads.. or a friggin laser beam on the head of the plane?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286153</id>
	<title>Natural predators</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1244631660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Birds are deathly afraid of snakes... has anyone yet tried Snakes on a Plane?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Birds are deathly afraid of snakes... has anyone yet tried Snakes on a Plane ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Birds are deathly afraid of snakes... has anyone yet tried Snakes on a Plane?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28289203</id>
	<title>You have no idea how fast this comes up.</title>
	<author>Chas</author>
	<datestamp>1244654280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you want an idea, watch <a href="http://www.evilnet.net/Video/birdsuck.wmv" title="evilnet.net">this video</a> [evilnet.net] from a few years back.  Keep an eye on the center left of the screen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want an idea , watch this video [ evilnet.net ] from a few years back .
Keep an eye on the center left of the screen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want an idea, watch this video [evilnet.net] from a few years back.
Keep an eye on the center left of the screen.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284807</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28299145</id>
	<title>Re:Cost factor</title>
	<author>LoRdTAW</author>
	<datestamp>1244753940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had a friend in grade school who's uncle was one of those guys. He and a small crew used to drive around JFK international with shot guns and kill tons of seagulls. Apparently one of the animal rights groups made a stink about it and the practice was stopped. Something about threatening the gull population which never appeared to be a problem. I don't know if they still do it but JFK is right on Jamaica Bay so its real good seagull territory.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had a friend in grade school who 's uncle was one of those guys .
He and a small crew used to drive around JFK international with shot guns and kill tons of seagulls .
Apparently one of the animal rights groups made a stink about it and the practice was stopped .
Something about threatening the gull population which never appeared to be a problem .
I do n't know if they still do it but JFK is right on Jamaica Bay so its real good seagull territory .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had a friend in grade school who's uncle was one of those guys.
He and a small crew used to drive around JFK international with shot guns and kill tons of seagulls.
Apparently one of the animal rights groups made a stink about it and the practice was stopped.
Something about threatening the gull population which never appeared to be a problem.
I don't know if they still do it but JFK is right on Jamaica Bay so its real good seagull territory.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284919</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28290719</id>
	<title>Use nature to frighten nature! Falcons!</title>
	<author>adokink</author>
	<datestamp>1244714340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I thought it was was worldwide used, but it looks like it is not as usual as I previously thought.

In Spain, where I live, it is traditional to have one or more trained falcons in airports. Minutes before an airplane leaves or arrives, the falcon makes a few flying courses around the landing area and other birds just fly away scared to the creeps!

Looks simple and it is simple, but I do no know if it is useful for BIG airports as JFK or Heathrow.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought it was was worldwide used , but it looks like it is not as usual as I previously thought .
In Spain , where I live , it is traditional to have one or more trained falcons in airports .
Minutes before an airplane leaves or arrives , the falcon makes a few flying courses around the landing area and other birds just fly away scared to the creeps !
Looks simple and it is simple , but I do no know if it is useful for BIG airports as JFK or Heathrow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought it was was worldwide used, but it looks like it is not as usual as I previously thought.
In Spain, where I live, it is traditional to have one or more trained falcons in airports.
Minutes before an airplane leaves or arrives, the falcon makes a few flying courses around the landing area and other birds just fly away scared to the creeps!
Looks simple and it is simple, but I do no know if it is useful for BIG airports as JFK or Heathrow.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28286921</id>
	<title>Re:Turrets!</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1244636100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What do you use to pay for a window seat now?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What do you use to pay for a window seat now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What do you use to pay for a window seat now?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284989</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285633</id>
	<title>Some things to think about</title>
	<author>meerling</author>
	<datestamp>1244629860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Planes fly much faster than the birds.<br>
Planes have far less maneuverability than the birds.<br>
Radar isn't that good on a couple pounds of flesh, so detection range is limited right now.<br>
Even if the radar on the planes was improved to easily detect birds, the range would still have effective limits because birds move and change course.<br>
By the time the birds detect the plane, they don't have much of a chance to avoid it.<br>
There is a whole lot of sky to cover, the only feasible method is to cover controlled areas. Aka - the airport airspace, and the planes immediate path.<br>
<br>
The best solution is to keep the birds out of the plane flight paths. How to do that is the problem. It's exacerbated by the open fields of the airports being ideal habitat for the birds. One thing airlines do is try to set their flight paths at altitudes that birds don't normally travel at, but that isn't always possible.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Planes fly much faster than the birds .
Planes have far less maneuverability than the birds .
Radar is n't that good on a couple pounds of flesh , so detection range is limited right now .
Even if the radar on the planes was improved to easily detect birds , the range would still have effective limits because birds move and change course .
By the time the birds detect the plane , they do n't have much of a chance to avoid it .
There is a whole lot of sky to cover , the only feasible method is to cover controlled areas .
Aka - the airport airspace , and the planes immediate path .
The best solution is to keep the birds out of the plane flight paths .
How to do that is the problem .
It 's exacerbated by the open fields of the airports being ideal habitat for the birds .
One thing airlines do is try to set their flight paths at altitudes that birds do n't normally travel at , but that is n't always possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Planes fly much faster than the birds.
Planes have far less maneuverability than the birds.
Radar isn't that good on a couple pounds of flesh, so detection range is limited right now.
Even if the radar on the planes was improved to easily detect birds, the range would still have effective limits because birds move and change course.
By the time the birds detect the plane, they don't have much of a chance to avoid it.
There is a whole lot of sky to cover, the only feasible method is to cover controlled areas.
Aka - the airport airspace, and the planes immediate path.
The best solution is to keep the birds out of the plane flight paths.
How to do that is the problem.
It's exacerbated by the open fields of the airports being ideal habitat for the birds.
One thing airlines do is try to set their flight paths at altitudes that birds don't normally travel at, but that isn't always possible.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28289583</id>
	<title>Re:Turrets!</title>
	<author>rdnetto</author>
	<datestamp>1244657700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bullets are metallic (usually). Just just a magnetic alloy and stick a magnet near the jets to make sure that none go in. Of course, you'd have to find a way to do it without interfering with the engine, but is shouldn't be too difficult...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bullets are metallic ( usually ) .
Just just a magnetic alloy and stick a magnet near the jets to make sure that none go in .
Of course , you 'd have to find a way to do it without interfering with the engine , but is should n't be too difficult.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bullets are metallic (usually).
Just just a magnetic alloy and stick a magnet near the jets to make sure that none go in.
Of course, you'd have to find a way to do it without interfering with the engine, but is shouldn't be too difficult...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285459</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285541</id>
	<title>Re:Warning signals</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244629560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Maybe we should add a warning signal for the birds. Like a really loud noise.</p></div><p>How loud did you have in mind?  Like loud as a jet engine maybe?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe we should add a warning signal for the birds .
Like a really loud noise.How loud did you have in mind ?
Like loud as a jet engine maybe ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe we should add a warning signal for the birds.
Like a really loud noise.How loud did you have in mind?
Like loud as a jet engine maybe?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285165</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285119</id>
	<title>Re:Shoot them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244627640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seeing how it's almost time to leave work, and I've got about 5 minutes to burn, let me summarize all the comments/ideas into 1.
<br> <br>
Paint the plane gray like a shark, attaching lasers that shoot the birds, with a giant cow catcher as a windshield, with a giant windmill attached to the top, and have a beowolf cluster of Dick Cheney's be the pilots for all of them.<br> <br>
Now there's a solid solution we can try, and 1 of them is bound to end in success.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seeing how it 's almost time to leave work , and I 've got about 5 minutes to burn , let me summarize all the comments/ideas into 1 .
Paint the plane gray like a shark , attaching lasers that shoot the birds , with a giant cow catcher as a windshield , with a giant windmill attached to the top , and have a beowolf cluster of Dick Cheney 's be the pilots for all of them .
Now there 's a solid solution we can try , and 1 of them is bound to end in success .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seeing how it's almost time to leave work, and I've got about 5 minutes to burn, let me summarize all the comments/ideas into 1.
Paint the plane gray like a shark, attaching lasers that shoot the birds, with a giant cow catcher as a windshield, with a giant windmill attached to the top, and have a beowolf cluster of Dick Cheney's be the pilots for all of them.
Now there's a solid solution we can try, and 1 of them is bound to end in success.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284807</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284813</id>
	<title>why not kill two birds with one stone</title>
	<author>user317</author>
	<datestamp>1244626500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>and build some windmills to generate electricity.  i thought those take care of birds pretty handedly.  or is it just the endangered ones?</htmltext>
<tokenext>and build some windmills to generate electricity .
i thought those take care of birds pretty handedly .
or is it just the endangered ones ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and build some windmills to generate electricity.
i thought those take care of birds pretty handedly.
or is it just the endangered ones?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285489</id>
	<title>Re:Sharks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244629320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This still gets modded funny??  Is anyone else over the whole "sharks with lasers" thing?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This still gets modded funny ? ?
Is anyone else over the whole " sharks with lasers " thing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This still gets modded funny??
Is anyone else over the whole "sharks with lasers" thing?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284909</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285979</id>
	<title>Re:I know one person that can do it</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1244631000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Only if they have law degrees. Gotta like that man; shoots lawyers and gets away with it AND he is in favor of gay marriage! Although with his enthusiasm for torture, you gotta wonder what sort of antics go on privately in his bedroom...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Only if they have law degrees .
Got ta like that man ; shoots lawyers and gets away with it AND he is in favor of gay marriage !
Although with his enthusiasm for torture , you got ta wonder what sort of antics go on privately in his bedroom.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only if they have law degrees.
Gotta like that man; shoots lawyers and gets away with it AND he is in favor of gay marriage!
Although with his enthusiasm for torture, you gotta wonder what sort of antics go on privately in his bedroom...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28284811</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285105</id>
	<title>Ain't gonna happen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244627580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hell I have seen people try everything from chile spray to Border Collies and they can't keep geese off a golf course either. Nothing short of eradication will keep them away from airports and we don't want that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hell I have seen people try everything from chile spray to Border Collies and they ca n't keep geese off a golf course either .
Nothing short of eradication will keep them away from airports and we do n't want that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hell I have seen people try everything from chile spray to Border Collies and they can't keep geese off a golf course either.
Nothing short of eradication will keep them away from airports and we don't want that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285499</id>
	<title>Open up, troll...</title>
	<author>Animaether</author>
	<datestamp>1244629380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>here comes the airplane... vrrrrrrrrrrr <a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/06/09/0035253" title="slashdot.org">http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/06/09/0035253</a> [slashdot.org]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...good boy!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>here comes the airplane... vrrrrrrrrrrr http : //tech.slashdot.org/article.pl ? sid = 09/06/09/0035253 [ slashdot.org ] ...good boy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>here comes the airplane... vrrrrrrrrrrr http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/06/09/0035253 [slashdot.org] ...good boy!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_10_2015228.28285073</parent>
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